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THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING THIS

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

EVENING.

BEFORE WE PROCEED, WE'D LIKE TO HAVE A, UH, GIVE OR TAKE A MOMENT FOR OUR CITY INTERPRETATION SERVICES, UH, TO ALLOW WHAT KNOWS WHAT'S BEING OFFERED FOR THIS ME EVENING'S MEETING.

HAVE THEM COME UP, PLEASE.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

AND ONE SECOND.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, WITH THAT, I WOULD ALSO REMIND EVERYONE TO PLEASE SILENCE ALL CELL PHONES OR ANY OF THE DEVICES IN THE CHAMBER.

UH, WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.

AND WE HAVE A LIVE WEBCAST, SO THE MEETING MAY BE VIEWED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE.

THE NOTICE AGENDA AND INFORMATION ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE INFORMS MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT THEY MAY SUBMIT A GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT OR A PUBLIC COMMENT ON A SPECIFIC GENERAL ITEM IN A NUMBER OF WAYS.

FIRST, IN THE, IN THE CHAMBERS HIMSELF BY FILLING OUT ONE OF THESE SALMON COLOR COLORED SLIPS.

AND, UH, TWO VIA ZOOM BY PRE-REGISTERING ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE, NO LATER THAN FOUR HOURS BEFORE THE MEETING, OR BY EMAILING NO LATER THAN FOUR HOURS BEFORE THE MEETING.

AND ALL WRITTEN COMMENTS RECEIVED ARE DISTRIBUTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL PRIOR TO THE MEETING AND PUBLISHED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE IF THEY ARE RECEIVED BY THE DEADLINE.

WITH THAT, COULD WE HAVE ROLL CALL PLEASE? COUNCIL MEMBER BUSH HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER RODRIGUEZ.

PRESENT.

COUNCIL MEMBER MOLINA PRESENT.

VICE MAYOR ANI.

HERE.

MAYOR MORRISON.

PRESENT.

WE HAVE A QUORUM.

THANK YOU.

WITH THAT, COULD WE PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? REMAIN STANDING FOR THE INVOCATION.

UM, MEMBER MOLINA, WOULD YOU ALL LEAD US? PLEASE PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

EVERY FATHER, WE COME TO YOU RIGHT NOW THIS EVENING, LORD, AND WE ASK YOU, LORD, TO JUST HAVE YOUR WAY THIS TONIGHT, LORD AND FATHER GOD, LET YOUR KINGDOM COME ON EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN, FATHER.

AND WE ASK YOUR LORD TO JUST TOUCH THE BOARD, THE, THE THAT'S HERE PRESENT TODAY, LORD, AND, AND FATHER GOD.

TOUCH THE PEOPLE, FATHER THAT WE CAN ALL COME TOGETHER.

FATHER, THAT KNOWING, FATHER GOD, THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, UNITED, THAT WE STAND AND DIVIDED IT.

WE FALL LORD.

BUT FATHER GOD, WE STAND IN YOUR WORD AND WE STAND IN YOUR MORALS, FATHER.

AND WE ASK YOU LORD TO HAVE YOUR WAY AND TOUCH EVERY MIND, HEART, AND SOUL.

FATHER, LET IT BE PURE AND AN ANOINTED FATHER.

AND WE GIVE YOU PRAISE AND GLORY IN JESUS NAME.

AMEN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WOULD YOU IDENTIFY YOURSELF IN YOUR CHURCH PLEASE? PASTOR? YES.

I'M SORRY.

I'M PASTOR BENNY FROM WORD OF LIFE WORSHIP CENTER IN NATIONAL CITY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

NOW

[5. PUBLIC COMMENT]

WE'RE GONNA HAVE, UH, WE GO INTO OUR PUBLIC COMMENTS.

THESE ARE ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA.

AND, UH, ALRIGHT, LET'S, UM, WE'LL GIVE EACH THE SPEAKERS, UH, THREE MINUTES ON THESE.

AND, UH, FIRST WE GO WITH, UH, TED GODSHAW.

BE FOLLOWED BY LARRY EMERSON.

OKAY.

UH, BEFORE YOU GET STARTED, TED, UH, WE DO HAVE SPANISH TRANSLATION IN THE, UH, LARGE CONFERENCE ROOM.

AND IT ALSO HAS A BIG SCREEN TV, UH, NEXT DOOR.

OKAY.

FOR THOSE WHO NEED IT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU COUNSELORS.

TED GOTCHU HERE.

YOU KNOW, IN SOME WAYS YOU DO THE SAME THINGS THAT THE PORT DISTRICT DOES AND THE COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS DOES.

DO YOU WORK ON DEALS IN PRIVATE? SOME OF THESE DEALS MAY PROMOTE YOUR AGENDAS.

YOU LIMIT THE PUBLIC'S INPUT, AND OFTEN YOU MAKE A SHOW OF EVEN TAKING THE PUBLIC INPUT.

AND WHEN

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IT'S DONE TO YOU, LIKE WITH, WITH, WITH SANDY CHER AT THE PORT, YOU ACT INDIGNANT SO YOU KNOW HOW IT FEELS TONIGHT.

HERE'S AN EXAMPLE.

YOU MET WITH YOUR ATTORNEY AND WITH MANY OF THE CONTRACTED LAW FIRMS, AND YOUR DEALS ARE DONE IN SECRET.

WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THE LAWSUITS WITH CANNABIS OPERATORS HAVE COST US SO FAR.

YOU WON'T TELL US.

THE CONSENT CALENDAR IS THE TIME TO TELL THE PUBLIC THE COST INCURRED BY MR. BUSH AND MR. RODRIGUEZ, WHO ARE THE ONLY TWO UP HERE WHO VOTED FOR CANNABIS.

HERE'S ANOTHER EXAMPLE.

TONIGHT I GO, I NEED TO GO TO A PUBLIC MEETING AT THE LIBRARY.

THERE'S A CONFLICT, TWO MEETINGS AT THE SAME TIME.

THIS IS ABOUT THE INCREASING TOXIFICATION OF OUR BAYFRONT.

THE SHIPYARD PROPOSAL IS THE THIRD NEW TOXIC OPERATION ALONG WITH THE RAILROADS, BIOFUELS, DIESEL TRUCK STATION, AND THE PORT'S BATTERY RECHARGE FACILITY.

IT'S ALL JUST TOO MUCH.

IT'S AN IN AN INCREASE OF TOXIFICATION OF OUR BAYFRONT.

AND YOU SHOULD BE AT THAT MEETING PROBABLY TO SUPPORT OUR COMMUNITY.

HERE'S AN, HERE'S THE LAST EXAMPLE.

TONIGHT, THERE IS AN ITEM THAT PROVES MY POINT, THE CASE OF THE WRONGFUL DEATH OF TONY WILSON.

A VERY SAD AND UNFORTUNATE INCIDENT ON THE NIGHT OF JUNE 18TH, AFTER HE VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO SETTLE FOR $350,000, THE CITY ATTORNEY CAME BACK INTO THIS HALL AND REPORTED FROM CLOSED SESSION.

THERE IS NOTHING TO REPORT.

THERE CERTAINLY WAS SOMETHING TO REPORT.

YOU VOTED ON THE SETTLEMENT AND HIS WORDS HAVE MADE LIGHT OF THE PUBLIC PROCESS REQUIRED FOR THE PUBLIC'S KNOWLEDGE OF INFORMATION.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, NEXT WE HAVE LARRY EMERSON TO BE FOLLOWED BY ED NETTO, EVENING MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS LARRY EMERSON, UH, NATIONAL CITY RESIDENT.

I WANT TO THANK YOU.

UH, WHO AM I THANKING? UH, WELL THAT'S PART OF MY PROBLEM IS, UH, I WANT TO THANK CITY WORKERS, BUT I PUT IN REQUESTS DOWN IN, IN THE OFFICE IS BELOW, PUT IN A REQUEST.

I SAY, PLEASE CONTACT ME WHEN YOU GET THIS REQUEST.

'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHO'S GONNA GET IT.

I NEVER GET A CALL.

THEY FIX THE, THE ISSUE OR THEY DON'T FIX IT.

I DON'T KNOW WHEN THEY DO IT OR WHEN THEY DO IT.

UM, BUT LUCKILY THE OTHER DAY I HAD A REQUEST FOR, UM, FIXING SOME DANGEROUS CONDITIONS ON A BIKE PATH ALONG I 50, I 18TH STREET.

UM, AND WITHIN A WEEK IT WAS ALL FIXED, BUT I DIDN'T GET A CALL WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR FIXING IT, SO I COULDN'T THANK THEM.

SO I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO GET A RESPONSE WHEN YOU PUT IN A REQUEST SO I CAN ACTUALLY THANK THEM WHEN THEY GET SOMETHING DONE.

SO I'M THANKING PEOPLE WHO GET THE THINGS DONE THAT REQUESTS ARE MADE, BUT SOMETIMES IT'D BE NICE TO KNOW WHO, WHO DID THE WORK AND WHO DID, YOU KNOW, I CAN THANK THEM DIRECTLY.

SO, UM, AGAIN, UH, I'M USING THE NATIONAL CITY LAS PALM POOL.

IT'S FANTASTIC POOL PARADISE.

AGAIN, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO AT LUNCHTIME IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN THERE RECENTLY.

UM, I HAVE A FRIEND AND I WANT TO THANK THE PEOPLE WHO MAINTAIN AND OPERATE THE POOL.

MY FRIEND IS 78 YEAR, 74 YEARS OLD.

HE'S NEVER LEARNED HOW TO SWIM, BUT THANKS TO LAS PALM POOL AND THE SWIMMING AND THE PEOPLE WHO OPERATE AND THE SWIMMING LESSONS, HE'S NOW FINALLY LEARNED HOW TO SWIM.

SO THAT'S A THANK YOU.

I KNOW WHO TO THANK THE PEOPLE AT THE POOL, THE LIFEGUARDS, AND THE PEOPLE WHO MAINTAIN THE POOL AND, AND THE, AND THE STAFF THAT, THAT, UM, UH, UH, OPERATE AND MAINTAIN IT.

LEMME SEE THE TIME.

UM, ONE THING I WOULD LIKE, UM, I KNOW THE CITY'S DOING LOTS OF THINGS TO BEAUTIFY THE CITY.

I I DO MY PART, I TRY TO DO MY PART WITH CLEANING UP THE NEIGHBORHOODS.

UM, OCTOBER 2ND IS MTS FREE TRANSIT DAY.

AND, UM, I ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO USE TRANSIT.

I USE TRANSIT, UH, WHEN I CAN.

UH, AND, BUT LAST YEAR I WAS DRIVING AROUND AND I SAW A BUS STOP HERE IN A BUS STOP THERE.

I SAID, LOOK AT ALL THAT TRASH.

LOOK AT THE WORD.

AREN'T WE TRYING TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO USE TRANSIT? BUT COULD THE CITY, I'M ASKING THE CITY, I DON'T KNOW WHO'S TO DIRECT THIS TO, BUT COULD THEY LOOK AROUND THE CITY AT THESE BUS STOPS AND SEE IF THEY CAN BEAUTIFY THOSE BUS STOPS A LITTLE BIT MORE? SO WHEN PEOPLE DECIDE THEY WANT TO TRY THE, UH, MPS AND FREE TRANSIT, INSTEAD OF DRIVING THEIR OLD GAS CARS AROUND TOWN, THEY COULD, THEY COULD GIVE TRANSIT A TRY.

AND I WILL VOLUNTEER IF YOU WANT ME TO GO TO A PARTICULAR BUS STOP AND HELP KEEP IT CLEAN.

BUT, UH, I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE CITY TO MAKE A LITTLE EFFORT TO CLEAN THOSE BUS STOPS.

SO WHEN PEOPLE USE THAT FREE MTS DATE, THEY CAN, UH, EN ENJOY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU EDWARD NETTO TO BE FOLLOWED BY, UH, JEFFREY SCHROCK.

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I, UM, I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT MY LAST, THE LAST MEETING WE HAD AND THE LAST MEETING I SPOKE AT THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION.

UM, YOU KNOW, I, COUNCIL MEMBER RODRIGUEZ SPOKE UP AND ASKED, UH, THAT THE MAYOR AFTER I SPOKE MAKE CONTROL THE MEETING BECAUSE MY COMMENTS, UH, MY COMMENTS WERE DIRECTED AT THE CITY MANAGER AND AT THE ATTORNEY CRITICAL ABOUT THEM MANAGING OUR, OUR SLUSH FUND AND THE ABUSE.

I THINK IT'S ABUSE, THAT'S WHY I'M CONCERNED WITH IT.

IT'S A CONCERN THAT NOT ONLY I HAVE, BUT EVERYBODY IN THE CITY HAS, AND GUYS GOTTA NEED, NEED TO WAKE UP ABOUT THAT.

I'M UP.

BUT, BUT THE LACK.

BUT WHAT I WANT TO TELL YOU IS THAT WHAT WAS REALLY RICH IS THAT WHEN, UM, WHEN, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER RODRIGUEZ SPOKE UP IN BEN'S DEFENSE TO ABOUT MY COMMENTS, AND HERE'S THE GUY THAT CAUSED BEN TO BE IN THE POSITION OF RECEIVING THE CRITICISM, AND HERE'S THE GUY WHO'S RECEIVING THE BENEFITS, YOU KNOW, STEPPING UP TO DEFEND HIM.

THAT WAS REALLY RICH.

I MEAN, THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF EXACTLY WHAT I'M TRYING TO TELL YOU IS THAT, YOU KNOW, POOR BEN, HERE'S PINATA IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, UH, THE ALLOWING THE SLUSH FUND ABUSE TO CONTINUE.

WE NEED TO GIVE A CRITERIA.

WE NEED A POLICY.

I THINK YOU'RE, I'M, I'M KEEP COMING BACK AND ASKING THAT YOU NEED A POLICY TO PROTECT THE GENERAL FUND, AND THAT'S ONE THAT WE DON'T HAVE.

THAT'S ONE THAT I THINK I SEE IN THE COUNTY POLICY.

THAT'S ONE THAT I SEE IN CHULA BUSINESS POLICIES IN TERMS OF FULL COST RECOVERY, PROTECTING THE GENERAL FUND.

AND IF YOU HAD THAT, BEN WOULDN'T BE OUT THERE BEING MANIPULATED BY RODRIGUEZ IN PUSHING FOR FOUR ADMINISTRATIVE COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, ASSISTANCE FOR A PART-TIME JOB AT THE END.

RODRIGUEZ ASKED THAT I COME AND SPEAK TO HIM.

I'VE BEEN SPEAKING TO HIM FOR A LONG TIME.

HE HASN'T RESPONDED.

HE HASN'T SAID ANYTHING.

THIS IS A, IT'S NOT TRUE.

I WALKED INTO A ROOM AND YOU HAD SIR IN THERE.

OKAY.

PLEASE DIRECT EVERYTHING TO THE CHAIR.

OKAY? IT'S TRUE.

IT'S TRUE.

BUT AS A AS ALWAYS, HE DEFLECTS FROM WHAT'S TRUE.

I WELCOME ANOTHER CONVERSATION.

I HOPE YOU HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS WITH RANDY AND SPEAK OUT AND SO PEOPLE CAN SEE HOW YOU STAND ON THE SL FRONT, HOW YOU STAND ON PROPERTY TAX PARCEL TO PROPERTY TAX INITIATIVE, AND ALL THE OTHER ISSUES THAT I THINK THAT YOU HAVE BEEN IN A POSITION THAT HAVE BEEN DETRIMENTAL TO THE CITY.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

THANK YOU, UH, JEFFREY SCHROCK.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL STAFF, NATIONAL RESIDENT CHEVY ROCK VOLUNTEER AND PUBLIC ADVOCATE.

UM, I'D LIKE TO FIRST SAY WE HAVE GOOD NEWS ABOUT ALL THE, UH, NEW DOLLAR TREE STORE ON HIGHLAND AVENUE.

IT'S OPEN DOING GOOD.

THEY'RE DOING A LOT OF GOOD BUSINESS.

UM, THINGS NEED TO BE GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AS FAR AS THAT GOES.

THAT'S A GOOD THING.

UM, I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT, UM, THE UPCOMING VOTE WE'RE GONNA BE HAVING ABOUT OUR POOR COMMISSIONER AND, UM, I HAVE DONE SOME RESEARCH ON OUR POOR COMM ABOUT THE POOR COMMISSION, UH, VOTE COMING UP.

AND I WOULD STRONGLY ENCOURAGE ALL OF YOU TO NOT VOTE FOR NICHOLSON ZZA FORMER DISGRACE NATIONAL CITY MAYOR WHO HAD TO RESIGN FOR CORRUPTION RELATED ISSUES.

UM, I DO KNOW THERE'S ONE COUNCIL MEMBER ON THIS COUNCIL THAT HAS RECEIVED FUNDING FROM, UH, FORMER MAYOR NICHOLSON ZZA, AND THAT WOULD BE COUNCIL MEMBER JOSE RODRIGUEZ.

SO FAR YOU'VE RECEIVED $200,000 IN TWO SEPARATE ELECTIONS, 1000 FOR YOUR MAYOR BID, AND NOW 1000 FOR YOUR BID FOR REELECTION.

SO, MORALLY AND ETHICALLY, HOW CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHERE YOUR INTEGRITY IS VOTING FOR A FORMER MAYOR WHO MAYOR MORRISON HAD TO TAKE OVER FOR I KNOW THE WHOLE STORY.

SO DOES RON MORRISON.

MAYOR, I'M SURE MS. MOLINA HAS HEARD ABOUT NICHOL SIMMONS OVER THE YEARS.

YOU WORKED FOR THE CITY FOR A LONG TIME AND, UH, YOU SHOULD KNOW HE'S FIRE.

HE'S TROUBLE.

HE WILL BRING DISGRACE TO OUR CITY AND THE UNION TRIBUNE WILL HAVE A FIELD DAY WITH OUR CITY AS FAR AS CRITICIZING US FOR BRINGING BACK OLD CORRUPT LEADERS THAT REALLY HAVE NO BUSINESS SERVING OUR CITY.

SO, YOU KNOW, JOSE, I LIKE YOU.

I THINK YOU'RE A GOOD PERSON.

PLEASE, PLEASE YOUR

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COMMENTS UP HERE.

OKAY.

I THINK YOU USED POOR JUDGMENT ON THAT, AND PLEASE RECONSIDER YOUR DECISION, OKAY.

UH, AND SUPPORT THEIR APPEAL OF PROP 47.

THAT'S WHAT'S GOOD FOR OUR KIDS.

LET'S TAKE THE POWER BACK FROM THE CRIMINALS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

THAT'S ALL THE, THAT'S ALL THAT WE HAVE UNDER, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT.

WE HAVE ZOOM, WE DO HAVE SOME, WE HAVE ZOOM COMMENTS.

YES, SIR.

THANK YOU.

I ALWAYS FORGET ABOUT THEM.

BECKY WRAP.

BECKY RAP.

GOOD EVENING.

THANK YOU.

YES, YES.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR MORRISON AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

UH, MY NAME IS BECKY RAP.

I'M A PARENT AND A PUBLIC HEALTH EDUCATOR HERE TONIGHT TO SHARE A RECENT ARTICLE PUBLIC IN THE UT TITLED, SMOKE-FREE APARTMENT LIVING IS BEST FOR EVERYONE IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY.

THE ARTICLE DESCRIBES SECONDHAND SMOKE AS THE SMOKER VAPOR EXILED BY THE TOBACCO USER.

SECONDHAND SMOKE KILLS 50,000 PEOPLE EVERY YEAR IN THE US AND CONTAINS OVER 7,000 CHEMICALS, INCLUDING 70 KNOWN TO BE CAUSED CANCER CAUSING SECONDHAND SMOKE CAN BE INHALED IN A VARIETY OF WAYS, BUT THE MOST COMMON WAY IS IN OUR OWN HOME.

A HOME THAT SHARES WALLS AND VENTILATION SYSTEMS LIKE APARTMENT COMPLEXES AND CONDOS.

65% OF THE AIR IN ONE HOME CAN TRAVEL INTO A ADJOINING HOMES.

THIS TAKES PLACE AS ONE NEIGHBOR SMOKES, AND THE VAPOR THEN TRAVELS THROUGH WINDOWS, DOORS, VENTILATION DUCTS, AND ALL OTHER ACCESS POINTS CAUSING THE NON-SMOKING NEIGHBOR TO SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES.

I BRING THIS TO YOUR ATTENTION AS THERE IS A SOLUTION TO THIS PROBLEM.

AND THE CITY OF CARLSBAD HAS LED THE WAY IN IMPLEMENTING A POLICY MAKING ALL MULTI-UNIT HOUSING 100% SMOKE FREE WHEN SURVEYED.

THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF SAN DIEGO COUNTY RESIDENTS SUB SUPPORT SMOKE-FREE HOUSING POLICIES, PROPERTY MANAGERS, HEALTHCARE PROVIDERS, AND LAW ENFORCEMENT AND ENVIRONMENTAL ADVOCATES ALSO AGREE THAT SMOKE-FREE HOUSING IS A GREAT SOLUTION.

A RESIDENT HAS THE RIGHT TO SMOKE, YES, BUT RESIDENTS SHOULD NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO IMPOSE THEIR SMOKE ON OTHERS.

I ASK THIS COUNCIL TO CONSIDER CREATING AND IMPLEMENTING A SMOKE-FREE HOUSING POLICY.

EVERY RESIDENT HAS THE RIGHT TO LIVE A SMOKE-FREE LIFE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU TERRY ANN SCULLY.

I GOOD EVENING CITY COUNCIL AND MAYOR MORRISON.

I'M A VOLUNTEER ON MANY YOUTH PROJECTS INVOLVING AFTER SCHOOL MENTORING AND TUTORING.

I COME TONIGHT TO RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOU SUPPORT THE AMERICAN CANCER SOCIETY IN URGING GOVERNOR NEWSOM VETO ASSEMBLY BILL 1 7 7 5 ON WHOSE DESK THIS BILL SITS.

THIS BILL WOULD SIGNIFICANTLY DAMAGE LONG STANDING SMOKE-FREE AND VAPE FREE WORKPLACE PROTECTION, AND IT WOULD PROMOTE ONSITE VAPING SMOKING AND CONCEPTION OF HIGH CONCENTRATED THC MARIJUANA PRODUCTS AT LOUNGES OR CAFES.

THE AMERICAN KANSAS SOCIETY STATES, AND I QUOTE, OUR SMOKE-FREE LAWS ARE POPULAR BECAUSE THEY WORK.

WE MUST NOT FORGET OR MINIMIZE THE PIVOTAL ROLE THEY'VE PLAYED IN SLASHING SMOKING AND VAPING RATES TO HISTORICALLY LOW LEVELS.

IT IS NOT WISE TO MAKE EXCEPTIONS TO LONGSTANDING LAWS IN EFFORTS TO ACCOMMODATE A FOR-PROFIT MARIJUANA INDUSTRY.

CALIFORNIA BOLDLY FORGED THE PATH TO PROTECT EVERYONE FROM DANGERS OF SECONDHAND SMOKE AND VAPE WHEN IT BECOMES, WHEN IT BECAME THE FIRST STATE TO PROHIBIT SMOKING AND VAPING IN ALMOST EVERY INDOOR PUBLIC SPACE.

ALSO, WE KNOW THAT TODAY'S HIGH POTENCY THC PRODUCTS CAN CREATE DANGEROUS IMPAIRMENT WHILE DRIVING.

SO IT WOULD BE A MOST HAZARDOUS SITUATION TO DRIVE TO A MARIJUANA LOUNGE AND THEN SMOKE VAPE OR JET MARIJUANA PRODUCTS.

AND TO DRIVE AWAY ENDANGERING OUR PUBLIC SAFETY.

I ASK THE CITY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER JOINING THE AMERICAN CANCER SOCIETY AND URGE THE GOVERNOR TO VETO AB 1 7 7 5.

THANK YOU FOR HEARING MY CONCERNS THIS EVENING.

THANK YOU, MEGAN STEWART.

THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS MEGAN STEWART, AND AS A YOUTH ADVOCATE AND SOMEONE WITH EXPERIENCE IN SOCIAL WORK, I WAS VERY HAPPY TO HEAR OF GOVERNOR NEWSOM'S RECENT PROPOSAL FOR STRICTER REGULATIONS ON HEMP PRODUCTS.

THE GOVERNOR'S EMERGENCY REGULATIONS AIM

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TO PROTECT ALL CALIFORNIANS, PARTICULARLY OUR YOUTH FROM DANGEROUS AND UNREGULATED PRODUCTS CONTAINING THC.

THE PROPOSED RULES WOULD BAN ANY DETECTABLE AMOUNT OF THC IN CONSUMABLE HEMP PRODUCTS AND RAISE THE PURCHASING AGE TO 21.

AS WE KNOW, CHILDREN AND ADOLESCENTS ARE AT A HIGHER RISK WHEN EXPOSED INTOXICATING SUBSTANCES, ESPECIALLY WHEN THESE PRODUCTS ARE READILY AVAILABLE IN GROCERY STORES, GAS STATIONS AND NEAR SCHOOLS.

GOVERNOR NEWSOM'S PROPOSED MEASURES ADDRESS THIS ISSUE BY ENSURING THAT INTOXICATING HEMP PRODUCTS DO NOT SLIP THROUGH THE CRACKS OF REGULATION AS WE HAVE SEEN HAPPEN IN OTHER STATES.

CURRENTLY, HEMP PRODUCTS ARE SUBJECT TO FAR LESS SCRUTINY THAN MARIJUANA, DESPITE THEIR POTENTIAL TO DO SIGNIFICANT HARM BY CLOSING REGULATORY LOOPHOLES, THESE NEW RULES CAN HELP PREVENT DANGEROUS UNTESTED HEMP PRODUCTS FROM REACHING NOT ONLY OUR YOUTH, BUT ALSO ADULTS AND SENIORS WHO PURCHASE THESE PRODUCTS, UM, WHICH ARE CAUSING LONG-TERM COGNITIVE AND HEALTH ISSUES.

THE MAIN GOAL OF THE GOVERNOR'S PROPOSAL IS KEEPING HARMFUL, UNREGULATED SUBSTANCES OUT OF THE HANDS OF THOSE MOST VULNERABLE.

I WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER SUPPORTING THESE EFFORTS AS A WAY TO ENSURE THAT OUR CITY CONTINUES TO PROTECT THE HEALTH AND WELLBEING OF ALL ITS CITIZENS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU BARBARA GORDON.

UM, GOOD EVENING COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I WORK WITH YOUNG PEOPLE AND THEIR MENTAL HEALTH NEEDS TO BE A PRIORITY.

SEPTEMBER IS NATIONAL SUICIDE PREVENTION MONTH.

WHILE SUICIDE PREVENTION IS VITAL TO ADDRESS YEAR, YEAR ROUND, SUICIDE PREVENTION AWARENESS MONTH PROVIDES A DEDICATED TIME TO COME TOGETHER WITH COLLECTIVE PASSION AND STRENGTH TO ADDRESS THIS DIFFICULT TOPIC.

THE ASSOCIATION OF ALCOHOL AND DRUGS WITH SUICIDAL THINKING CAN PLAY A PART IN ACTUAL SUICIDE.

ALCOHOL AND DRUGS ARE INFLUENTIAL IN THE FEELINGS OF HOPELESSNESS BY THEIR TOXIC EFFECTS.

THE COMMERCIALIZATION OF MARIJUANA HAS INCREASED THE FALSE PREMISE OF MARIJUANA PRODUCTS BEING NATURAL AND HEALTHY, HEALTHIER THAN ALCOHOL AND TOBACCO, WHICH GREATLY DECREASES THE RISK OF HARM RELATED TO THIS DRUG.

THE MAIN PSYCHO ADDICT PSYCHOACTIVE INGREDIENT IN MARIJUANA THC CAUSES MENTAL AND PSYCHOLOGICAL HEALTH PROBLEMS. A RECENT STUDY IN THE JOURNAL OF AMERICAN MEDICAL ASSOCIATION DE DESCRIBES THE DIRECT CONNECTION BETWEEN MARIJUANA USE AND SUICIDE.

ACCORDING TO THE CD C'S, SUICIDE IS THE SECONDING LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH FOR YOUNG PEOPLE BETWEEN THE AGES OF 10 AND 24.

I URGE THIS COUNCIL TO SUPPORT THOSE STRUGGLING WITH MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES WITH EDUCATION REGARDING THE HARMFUL EFFECTS OF MARIJUANA.

POLICYMAKERS MUST STOP THE NORMALIZATION AND THE INCREASE AVAILABILITY OF THC PRODUCTS.

THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK.

THANK YOU.

AND THAT CONCLUDES OUR PUBLIC COMMENT, MAYOR.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WITH THAT, WE GO

[6.1 Proclamation - Constitution Week]

INTO OUR PROCLAMATIONS, AND WE HAVE ONE FOR THIS, THIS EVENING, AND THAT IS A PROCLAMATION FOR CONSTITUTION WEEK.

AND I'M NOT GONNA READ THROUGH ALL OF IT, BUT I THINK THE, THE MAIN THING IS THAT, UM, WHEREAS WE ASK OUR CITIZENS TO REAFFIRM THE IDEALS OF THE FRAMERS OF THE CONSTITUTION THAT THEY HAD IN 1787 BY LY PROTECTING THE FREEDOMS GUARANTEED TO US THROUGH THIS GUARDIAN OF OUR LIBERTIES, REMEMBERING THAT LOST RIGHTS MAY NEVER BE REGAINED.

AND SO, UM, AS I SAY, IT'S, UH, IT'S INTERESTING THAT ALL TOO OFTEN WE, WE TEACH A LOT OF DOCUMENTS AND A LOT OF IDEAS.

UH, WE DON'T SPEND MUCH TIME WITH THE CONSTITUTION, AND YET THAT'S WHAT PROTECTS THE IDEALS AND THE, AND THE LIBERTIES THAT WE DO HAVE.

SO DO WE HAVE SOMEONE, UH, HERE TONIGHT THAT WOULD BE ACCEPTING THIS? I'M TOO SURE IF WE HAD ANYONE.

NO, YOU CANNOT ACCEPT IT.

.

WE HAVE.

OKAY.

WELL, WE DO HAVE IT, AND WE WILL MAKE SURE WE GET THAT TO THE, UH, THE REQUESTER OF THE PROCLAMATION, UH, WITH THAT NEXT

[7. REGIONAL BOARDS AND COMMITTEE REPORTS]

WE GET INTO REGIONAL BOARDS AND COMMITTEE REPORTS, AND, UH, I'LL START DOWN HERE ON MY LEFT.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

I WOULD LIKE TO REPORT THAT AT OUR LAST WEEK'S SANDAG MOBILITY WORKING GROUP MEETING, UM, THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WILL BE HAPPENING THIS FALL.

THERE IS GONNA BE A DATA COLLECTION PROGRAM SET UP BY SANDAG.

UH, THEIR JOB IS TO MAKE SURE TO, UM, UH, IDENTIFY STRATEGIES TO FULFILL

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THE NEEDS OF THE PUBLIC TRI TRANSIT RIDERSHIP.

SO THEY WILL BE EVERYWHERE IN THE REGION.

I'VE REQUESTED THEM TO COME INTO NATIONAL CITY, SEEING AS WE HAVE ONE OF THE HIGHEST TRANSIT RIDERSHIP IN THE COUNTY.

AND, UH, WE HAVE A SIZEABLE, UM, SENIOR POPULATION THAT UTILIZES, UH, TRANSIT.

SO WE ARE GOING TO BE A PART OF THE SURVEY, UM, UH, SO THAT OUR, OUR SENIORS AND OUR RESIDENTS WILL BE HEARD.

UH, SO THAT'S ONE.

AND THE OTHER IS, UM, SOMETHING I WANNA MAKE THE COMMUNITY AWARE OF.

SANDAG IS ALSO WORKING ON, ON A ZERO EMISSIONS VEHICLE INCENTIVE PROGRAM.

IT IS INTENDED SO THAT, UM, UH, ZERO EMISSION VEHICLES EVS, UH, ARE, UM, INCENTIVIZED FOR LOW INCOME AND DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES.

UH, USUALLY IN PLACES WHERE THERE ARE LIMITED OR VERY FEW, UH, CHARGING STATIONS.

SO, UM, SOUTHEAST OF NATIONAL CITY IS A PART OF THAT.

UM, UH, RIGHT NEXT TO, UH, PARADISE HILLS, UH, THERE ARE VERY LIMITED AND FEW CHARGING STATIONS.

SO, UM, THERE IS GOING TO BE ADDITIONAL INCENTIVES TO MAKE SURE THAT INDIVIDUALS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, IN OUR COMMUNITY HAVE ACCESS TO PURCHASE THE VEHICLES THAT WE AS A FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, AS A STATE AGENCY, ARE CONSTANTLY INCENTIVIZING.

WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY HAS ACCESS TO THEM, INCLUDING OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR RESIDENTS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

MEMBER BUSH.

UH, YES.

UH, THIS PAST WEEK WE HAD OUR AIR POLLUTION CONTROL DISTRICT, UH, MEETING.

THE BIG ITEM ON THAT AGENDA WAS, UH, WE VOTED TO MOVE FORWARD SOME EMERGENCY FUNDING FROM THE EPA FOR AIR FILTERS IN THE TIJUANA RIVER VALLEY TO ADDRESS THIS SEWAGE CRISIS.

SO THAT WAS, UH, SIGNIFICANT, BUT THERE'S STILL A LOT MORE TO BE DONE.

WE HAVE TO WORK WITH THE STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ON HOPEFULLY PUSHING THEM TO DECLARE AN EMERGENCY BECAUSE THE TIJUANA SEWAGE RIVER CRISIS, IT IS AN EMERGENCY THIS PAST WEEK WITH THE, UH, WE HAVE TWO WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANTS, AT LEAST TWO, ONE IN THE, UH, MEXICO SIDE.

THE OTHER, UH, OUR OWN I-I-B-W-C-I THINK IT'S CALLED.

UH, SO THOSE ARE DOWN, THEY'RE NOT WORKING.

SO WE HAD RECORD FLOWS AND THEN RECORD TEMPERATURES.

SO WE HAD A RECORD, A NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS AROUND 2000 COMPLAINTS THAT THE AIR POLLUTION CONTROL DISTRICT RECEIVED IN, IN, UM, IN THE MONTH, UH, THIS PA THIS PAST MONTH AND A HALF.

AND JUST FOR CONTEXT, THE AVERAGE OF COMPLAINTS IS ABOUT 800 PER YEAR.

SO 2000 PER MONTH.

AND, UH, LARGELY ABOUT ODORS.

SO, UH, WE, SO WE HAVE MONITORS OUT, UH, FROM AIR POLLUTION CONTROL DISTRICT, UH, HAZMAT, THE COUNTY MONITORS ARE OUT.

WE ALSO HAVE SOME RESEARCHERS FROM SAN DIEGO STATE UNIVERSITY IN, UH, UCSD THAT ARE OUT THERE ON THE GROUND RIGHT NOW.

BUT I'LL TELL YOU THAT I, I WENT THERE MYSELF TO UNDERSTAND, UM, THE, ALL THE, THE CHEMISTRY, THE CHEMICALS, AND JUST THE ISSUES.

AND I COULD TELL YOU WITH AIR THAT I, UH, BREED THERE WASN'T SAFE.

SO I DON'T WANT US TO BE OVER ALARMIST, BUT I DO, UH, RECOMMEND THAT THE PUBLIC TAKE CAUTION AND THE ODORS THAT THE PEOPLE IN, IN SUNNY SEE THEIR OWN NESTER, IMPERIAL BEACH.

BUT ALSO, I'VE HEARD SOME RESIDENTS EVEN THAT THE SMELL OF SEWAGE HAS EVEN GONE AS FAR AS HERE.

AND, UH, A LOT OF THAT SMELL THAT I'VE HEARD FROM FIREFIGHTERS AND EXPERTS IS THAT IS HYDROGEN SULFIDE, HYDROGEN SULFIDE, PROLONGED EXPOSURE.

WE'VE REPORT, WE'VE HEARD REPORTS FROM RESIDENTS, UH, CAUSES NAUSEA, HEADACHES, UM, STOMACH ISSUES.

WE'VE HEARD OF INCREASED, UH, HOSPITALIZATIONS.

SO IT DEFINITELY IS A CRISIS.

AND, AND WE NEED THE, THE STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO DECLARE AN EMERGENCY.

BUT I, I, I DO WANT TO REPORT THAT THERE WERE UNSAFE LEVELS OF HYDROGEN SULFIDE DETECTED, ESPECIALLY, UH, IN THE NIGHTTIME, UH, WITH THE INVERSION LAYER.

AND, UM, JUST THE CLIMATE CONDITIONS THAT CAUSES, UH, THE LEVELS OF HYDROGEN SULFIDE THAT ARE, IS A CHEMICAL COMING FROM THE PURE UNTREATED SEWAGE COMING FROM THE TIJUANA.

UH, IT, IT'S, IT HAS, IT'S RELEASING THESE CHEMICALS AND, AND THEY'RE NOT GOOD.

SO, UH, WE JUST WANT TO, UH, FROM AIR POLLUTION CONTROL DISTRICT STANDPOINT, COMMUNICATE THAT TO THE PUBLIC.

UH, REPORT IT, IF, YOU KNOW, YOU SMELL THOSE, UH, TYPE OF ODORS, IT'S A ROTTEN EGG SMELL, AND THAT IS THE HYDROGEN SULFIDE THAT IS NOT SAFE.

SO, UH, BUT THERE'S STILL A LOT OF RESEARCH THAT WE DON'T HAVE THAT WE DON'T KNOW ON THE LONG-TERM HEALTH IMPACTS.

SO THAT'S WHAT AIR POLLUTION CONTROL DISTRICT IS WORKING ON.

BUT WE DO NEED A, UM, WE, WE DO NEED TO TREAT THIS LIKE A CRISIS.

AND, UH, MAYOR AGUIRE, UH, MAYOR MORRISON, SHE DID THANK OUR, OUR CITY AND YOU FOR, UH, UH, PUSHING THIS.

AND I DO THINK EVEN THOUGH THAT THAT'S NOT NATIONAL CITY, BUT AS A REGION, IT'S ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES THAT WE, WE DO NEED TO ADDRESS.

UH, MOST OF US HAVE FRIENDS AND FAMILIES IN THE, IN THE, UH, IMPERIAL BEACH AND, AND NESTOR, SOUTH SAN DIEGO AREA.

SO WE DO NEED TO TREAT IT LIKE A CRISIS.

SO WE'VE TAKEN SOME STEPS.

MORE WORK NEEDS TO BE DONE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UH, MAYOR MOLINA.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I ATTENDED THE SANDAG BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING ON,

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UH, SEPTEMBER 13TH.

UH, WE HAD, UH, FIRST IT WAS THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEETING AND WE HAD A GOOD LEGISLATIVE UPDATE SESSION.

WE TALKED A BIT ABOUT THE TIJUANA RIVER VALLEY SITUATION AND THE NEED FOR MORE FILTERS FOR THE FOLKS THAT ARE, UM, EXPERIENCING AND HAVING TO LIVE THROUGH THAT SITUATION.

UM, SO FAR, I THINK THERE WAS 800 FILTERS HAD BEEN, UM, HANDED OUT INCLUDING, UM, UH, TWO, RE TWO REFILLS FOR THE, FOR THE FILTERS.

I'M NOT SURE THE FULL LIFE OF THE FILTER, BUT THERE IS MORE THAT IS NEEDED.

SO I'M GLAD TO HEAR ABOUT, UH, MR. BUSH'S UPDATE ABOUT, UH, DIVERTING FUNDS IN THAT DIRECTION.

THAT'S A GOOD THING.

UM, FOR THE, UM, THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING, WE DID RECEIVE VERY IMPORTANT INFORMATION ABOUT THE RESULTS OF TWO AUDITS THAT THE INDEPENDENT PERFORMANCE AUDITOR AT SANDAG, UM, WE LOVINGLY CALL HER OPA, OFFICE OF INDEPENDENT PERFORMANCE AUDITOR.

UM, ONE INVESTIGATION WAS ON, UM, A, UH, INVESTIGATIONS REPORT FOR FRAUD, WASTE AND ABUSE.

THIS IS AN ANNUAL REPORT.

UM, MOST OF THE, THE FINDINGS, THERE WAS 10 RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

UM, MOST OF THEM HAD TO DO WITH THE STATE ROUTE 1 25, UM, UH, INFORMATION THAT, THAT, UM, THERE WAS ISSUES WITH SOME OF THE VENDORS THAT WERE RELATED TO THE, UM, THE TOLL ROAD FOR, UH, SR 1 25.

AND THEN ALSO THERE WAS FINDINGS ON THE WHISTLEBLOWER HOTLINE.

UH, I JUST WANNA MENTION SOME OF THE FIND FINDINGS, UM, INCLUDED, UH, TIMELY INFORMING THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF ISSUES.

UH, THE REPORT GOES ON TO SAY THAT HAD THERE BEEN MORE COMMUNICATION WITH THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS, PERHAPS SOME OF THE ISSUES WOULDN'T HAVE BLOWN UP THE WAY THEY DID.

SO, UM, THE, UH, I DO APPRECIATE THAT, UH, AS WELL FOR THE WHISTLEBLOWER PROGRAM.

ONE OF THE FINDINGS IS THEY WANT TO INCREASE THE AWARENESS OF THE WHISTLEBLOWER PROGRAM, NOT JUST FOR EMPLOYEES AT SANDAG, BUT ALSO FOR CONTRACTORS OR FOR ANY INDIVIDUAL THAT IS INTERESTED IN, UM, HAVING AN INVESTIGATION FOR SOME OF THE ISSUES, UH, HAPPENING RELATED TO SANDAG AND TRANSPORTATION IN THE COUNTY.

UH, FOR CONTEXT, THERE WAS SIX CASES THAT WERE REPORTED THAT WERE CREDIBLE, THAT WERE REPORTED TO, UH, VIA THE WHISTLEBLOWER HOTLINE IN 2024.

FOR CONTEXT, IN 2023, THERE WAS TWO, AND THEN IN 2022, THERE WAS NINE.

SO ALL OF THOSE CASES HAVE GONE THROUGH THE CHANNELS AND HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED AND CLOSED.

UM, THE SECOND AUDIT HAD TO DO WITH AN AUDIT OF THE CONTRACTS, INVOICING, AND PAYMENT PROCESSES.

AGAIN, THERE WAS ISSUES REGARDING THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THE PROCESSES, UH, APPROVALS OF, UH, CONTROL, UM, THE APPROVAL CONTROL PROCESS INVOICES PAID WITH INSUFFICIENT SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION, MISSING DOCUMENTATION, THE SAMPLE SET THAT WAS SAMPLED.

UM, OUT OF, UH, 1,700 INVOICES, THEY TOOK A SAMPLE SET OF ABOUT 400 INVOICES THAT WENT THROUGH THE RIGOR OF, UH, THE AUDIT.

AND A PRETTY HIGH PERCENTAGE WAS FOUND TO BE DEFICIENT.

THERE WAS 32% OF THOSE 400 ROUGHLY INVOICES THAT HAD THESE ISSUES, EITHER MISSING DOCUMENTATION AND WHATNOT.

UH, SO THE FINDINGS WERE, UM, WERE MANAGEMENT ACCEPTED THE FINDINGS AND ARE WORKING TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO ALL OF THESE PROCESSES.

I'M SAYING ALL OF THIS BECAUSE IT IS IMPORTANT FOR ANY ORGANIZATION THAT IS MANAGING PUBLIC FUNDS TO ENSURE THAT THE PUBLIC FUNDS ARE PROPERLY SPENT AND FOR THEIR INTENDED PURPOSES.

AND THAT IS WHY DOCUMENTATION IS SO VERY IMPORTANT.

UM, THERE ARE THINGS HAPPENING AT SANDAG THAT WILL HELP PREVENT THIS TYPE OF, UM, INEFFICIENCY IN THE FUTURE.

THERE'S A NEW FINANCIAL SYSTEM THAT, UM, BEGAN TO BE IMPLEMENTED IN JANUARY, 2024, A NEW ERP SYSTEM.

AND THEN OF COURSE, WITH THE FINDINGS, THERE COMES A LOT OF THE TRAINING OF STAFF TO UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF THE PROCESSES AND IMPROVING UPON THOSE PROCESSES.

UM, THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT.

MAYOR.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

MEMBER YOUR MIND.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THERE.

SAN DIEGO COMMUNITY POWER.

IT WAS JUST ADMINISTERIAL MAYOR, SO NO REPORT COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY.

IT WAS ALSO CLOSED SESSION.

SO NO REPORT.

SWEETWATER AUTHORITY.

WE'VE BEEN TRAVELING ON EDUCATIONAL, UH, CONFERENCES, MAYOR.

SO OUR MEETING IS ON THE 25TH, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE OUR RATE PAYERS TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE FIRST EVER LOW INCOME CUSTOMER ASSISTANCE PROGRAM TO HELP ELIGIBLE HOUSEHOLD PAY THE RESIDENTIAL WATER BILLS.

THIS IS A COMMITMENT

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BY THE AUTHORITY TO SUPPORT LOW INCOME MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY BY PROVIDING BILL ASSISTANCE FOR ESSENTIAL WATER SERVICE.

SO THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT, MAYOR.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND, UH, I'LL AGREE WITH YOU ON THE SWEETWATER AUTHORITY REPORT, SO I HAVE NOTHING TO REPORT.

UM, WITH THAT, WE MOVE

[8.1 Appointments: City Boards, Commissions, and Committees – City Council Interview and Appointment for the Civil Service Commission, and Planning Commission]

ON AND WE GO TO OUR NEXT DEAL, WHICH IS INTERVIEWS AND APPOINTMENTS.

AND WE DO HAVE A NUMBER OF APPOINTMENTS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE.

OUR FIRST ONES WILL BE THE, UH, COUNCIL APPOINTMENTS, AND I WILL LOOK TO OUR CITY CLERK TO EXPLAIN THE PROCESS.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

P UH, CITY COUNCIL POLICY 1 0 7, SECTION D EIGHT, UH, OUTLINES THE INTERVIEW PROCESS AS FOLLOWS, FOR THE CITY COUNCIL APPOINTMENTS, THE INTERVIEW PROCESS AS AS FOLLOWS, UH, THE CITY CLERK WILL PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF THE BOARD COMMISSIONER COMMITTEES WITH CURRENT VACANCIES.

THE MAYOR WILL INTRODUCE THE APPLICANT AND TWO QUESTIONS WILL BE ASKED OF EACH APPLICANT ON BEHALF OF THE CITY COUNCIL, EACH APPLICANT IS GIVEN TWO MINUTES TO MAKE A BRIEF INTRODUCTION OF THEMSELVES AND THEIR QUALIFICATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

THE MAYOR AND THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL ASK QUESTIONS OF EACH APPLICANT.

ALL APPLICANTS MUST BE ASKED THE SAME QUESTIONS.

TOTAL TIME PER APPLICANT IS FIVE MINUTES.

WITH TIME ALLOWED FOR CLARIFICATION AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CITY COUNCIL NOT TO EXCEED 10 MINUTES PER APPLICANT.

ALL APPOINTMENTS AND INTERVIEWS BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL WILL BE SCHEDULED AS NEEDED TO FILL UNEXPECTED VACANCIES.

WITH EVERY EFFORT TO BE MADE BEFORE AN INDIVIDUAL'S TERM EXPIRES, INTERVIEWS MAY TAKE PLACE AT ONE MEETING WITH APPOINTMENTS MADE AT A SUBSEQUENT MEETING.

THAT CONCLUDES MY COMMENT.

ALRIGHT.

UM, OKAY.

WE WILL GO FIRST TO THE CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION.

THERE ARE TWO SEATS THAT ARE AVAILABLE.

WE ONLY HAVE ONE APPLICANT.

UH, GILMORE.

I'M PROBABLY GONNA MESS UP THE LAST NAME.

ELDA GILMORE IN THE AUDIENCE.

ELDA.

ELDA.

OKAY.

OKAY.

GILMORE.

AIDA IS IN, ARE THEY IN THE AUDIENCE? WE DO NOT HAVE THEM IN THE AUDIENCE FOR INTERVIEW.

WHAT IS THE COUNCIL'S PLEASURE? UH, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, APPROVE HIM.

OKAY.

TO APPROVE HIM ON THE CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION.

OKAY.

OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

AND, AND I WOULD JUST SAY, UH, NORMALLY WE DO LIKE TO HAVE INTERVIEWS, BUT WE'VE HAD ISSUES WITH DELAY IN CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION, UH, LACK OF MEETING QUORUM.

WE HAVE ONE APPLICANT AND TWO VACANCIES.

SO WE REALLY NEED TO, UH, APPROVE THIS AND, AND MOVE THIS GOING.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY WE'RE DOING THIS.

YES.

I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND COMMISSIONERS THAT ARE APPOINTED THAT THIS, UM, RESPONSIBILITY IS REALLY, REALLY VERY IMPORTANT.

UM, YOU ARE OUR GUIDE TO GIVE US, GUIDE TO GIVE US RECOMMENDATIONS AND, UM, GUIDANCE FOR US TO MAKE A, A, A GOOD DECISION AND AN INFORMATIVE DECISION WHEN WE MAKE OUR, UM, WHEN WE MAKE OUR DECISIONS UP HERE.

SO WHEN YOU ARE APPOINTED TO A COMMISSION, UM, PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT YOU PUT YOUR COMMITMENT.

AND IF YOU CANNOT MAKE IT, MAKE A PHONE CALL.

PHONE CALL IS ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, UH, VERY IMPORTANT PART IN ORDER FOR, UM, THE PRESIDING STAFF TO, UM, TO SEE IF THERE WILL BE A QUORUM.

IT'S REALLY VERY IMPORTANT.

WE CANNOT MOVE AN ITEM HERE IF IT DOESN'T PASS YOUR COMMISSION.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A SECOND.

I SAID WE HIT THE SECOND.

OH, I'M SORRY.

.

OKAY, GOOD.

OKAY.

OUR , THE ONES THAT ARE COMING UP ON MY BOARD, ARE ENTIRELY DIFFERENT THAN THE NAMES GOING UP, UP THERE, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW.

OH, ARE THEY, ARE THEY THE PLANNING NATION STILL? I, I DON'T THINK THE MOTION WAS MADE BY CONNO.

AND LAST ONE PASSED.

DAM.

AMEN.

YEAH, I DON'T KNOW.

ANYWAY, WERE YOU ABLE TO VOTE? OKAY.

BUT WE'LL GO, WE'LL GO BY THOSE.

HOW'S THAT? OKAY.

THAT'S PERFECT.

ALRIGHT.

UM, OKAY.

SO WITH THAT WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION PASSES.

OKAY.

NEXT WE GO TO PLANNING COMMISSION.

THERE IS ONE SEAT AVAILABLE AND WE DO HAVE THREE APPLICANTS.

AND I THINK YOU DO HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT.

I DO.

ONE OF THE APPLICANTS, ONE OF THE FOUR APPLICANTS THAT WE ORIGINALLY HAD.

YEP.

SONYA FLORES, UH, WITHDREW HER APPLICATION TODAY, SO SHE WILL NOT BE CONSIDERED.

OKAY.

SO WE HAVE THREE REMAINING APPLICANTS.

UM, THE, UH, WE HAVE ONE INCUMBENT AND TWO NEW NAMES.

SO WE HAVE, UM, ALITO, GUZO, I DUNNO, I'M PROBABLY REALLY GONNA BUTCHER THAT NAME.

AMALTO.

GUZO,

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YEAH.

G-O-Z-U-M.

OKAY.

NOT SAY ANYTHING.

UM, RICARDO SANCHEZ, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

AND RICARDO IS THE INCUMBENT.

OKAY.

UH, I GET NUMEROUS SPEAKING IN FRONT OF PEOPLE, SO THANK YOU .

I AM THE INCUMBENT.

AND, UH, FIRST OF ALL, I WANTED TO SAY GOOD EVENING TO, UH, MAYOR MORRIS AND, UH, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

I'VE SERVED IN THE, UH, THIS POSITION FOR FOUR YEARS, UH, WITH, UH, COUNCIL, UM, COUNCILWOMAN, UH, BUSH, AND ALSO WITH, UH, COUNCILWOMAN AND ANI, SORRY, .

THEY KNOW I BUTCHER THEIR NAMES.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

.

SO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MY BACKGROUND.

I AM, UH, YOU GUYS HAVE MY RESUME IN FRONT OF ME.

MM-HMM.

.

AND, UH, I'LL JUST GO THROUGH, THROUGH WHAT IT REALLY MEANS FOR ME TO BE PART OF THIS, UH, COUNCIL, UH, SORRY.

PART OF THIS, UH, COMMISSION.

I AM, UH, I'M HONORED TO BE CONSIDERED FOR THE POSITION FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

MY NAME, MS. ONCE AGAIN, DECARO SANCHEZ.

AND WITH MY BACKGROUND IN ENGINEERING, SUSTAINABILITY, COMMUNITY SPORTS AND CONSTRUCTION, I AM EAGER TO CONTINUE TO BRING A FRESH PERSPECTIVE TO OUR PLANNING EFFORTS.

A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MY BACKGROUND, I HAVE WORKED AS AN ENGINEER FOR THE, THE ENGINEERING ARCHITECTURAL CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY OVER 20 YEARS NOW, BOTH IN THE PRIVATE AND CURRENTLY I AM A CIVIL SERVANT.

UM, I HAVE ALSO BEEN IN A HIGH SCHOOL ENGINEERING TEACHER FOR TWO YEARS.

I AM A DRIVEN TO GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY THAT HAS RAISED ME IN THE PAST FIVE YEARS.

I HAVE BEEN BOTH IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND HOUSING AND ALSO IN THE TRAFFIC COMMISSION WHERE I HAVE BEEN DA DILIGENT MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION MAKING CRITICAL DECISIONS BASED ON THE INFORMATION PROVI PROVIDED TO US WITH THE GOAL OF IMPROVING OUR COMMUNITY.

CURRENTLY A BOARD MEMBER OF LAS PALMS LITTLE LEAGUE.

UH, MY BACKGROUND IN CIVIL ENGINEERING HELPS ME MAKE ANALYTICAL DECISIONS AND MY CONSTRUCTION BACKGROUND MAKES ME ANALYZE VISIBILITY, MAKING SURE THAT THE PROJECTS WE LOOK AT ARE ACTUALLY FEASIBLE.

UM, OVER THE YEARS I HAVE HAD THE PRIVILEGE TO WORK ON PROJECTS THAT SPAN FROM SUSTAINABLE DESIGN TO NAVIGATE COMPLEX ZONING REGULATIONS.

MY EXPERIENCE INCLUDES BUILDING AN A DU WITHIN THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY FOR, FOR MY, UH, FAMILY, WHICH WAS GIVING ME THE FIRSTHAND EXPERIENCE OF THE BUILDING PROCESS AS FAR AS, UM, HOW TO NAVIGATE WITH THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY OVERALL, IT WAS A GREAT EXPERIENCE.

UM, I WAS PROBABLY ONE OF THE FIRST THAT TOOK ON THOSE, UM, TASKS HERE IN THE CITY, AND THAT'S WHAT PRETTY MUCH INCITED ME TO START GOING INTO THESE COMMISSIONS AND GET INVOLVED.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU.

OH, SORRY.

.

OKAY.

IT'S GOOD.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

YEAH.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ARE THERE ANY, ANY QUESTIONS? UH, OKAY.

YES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR. SANCHEZ.

THANK YOU FOR APPLYING AGAIN.

UH, MY QUESTION IS REGARDING THE TIME COMMITMENT.

I KNOW THAT, UH, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, YOU ARE ESSENTIALLY GIVING UP SOME OF YOUR OWN PERSONAL TIME TO PARTICIPATE IN SERVING NATIONAL CITY THIS WAY.

UH, I'M INTERESTED IN YOUR COMMITMENT TO THAT AND, AND WHY YOU WANNA SERVE NATIONAL CITY IN THIS WAY.

UM, GIVEN THAT IT'S A VOLUNTEER POSITION, ONCE AGAIN, I HAVE BEEN SERVING IT AND I'VE MANAGED TO MAKE IT TO THE MEETINGS.

THE ONES THAT I HAVEN'T.

UM, I'VE BEEN EXCUSED, YOU KNOW, LIFE DOES HAPPEN, OF COURSE, THE MATERIAL, AS WE ALL KNOW, BUSH , WE, WE READ A LOT OF THE, UH, THE PACKET.

IT'S NOT AN EASY COMMISSION.

UH, THERE'S A LOT OF THE SONY STUFF, A LOT OF TIME GOES INTO IT.

AND, UH, I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP BECAUSE THOSE ARE VERY KEY POINTS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.

I ENJOY IT.

I MEAN, I LIKE TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE, IN THE, UH, IN THAT INDUSTRY AND ZONING AND ADUS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, PUBLIC SAFETY, ALL OF THAT.

BUT LIKE I SAID, I, I DO MAKE IT THE TIME BECAUSE I ENJOY IT ONE AND SECOND.

IT'S IN LINE WITH MY CAREER ALREADY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IF NOT, OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

UH, WE HAVE ONE OTHER PERSON, UH, WELLINGTON, CLAVE WELLINGTON.

THERE HE IS.

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OKAY.

UH, HELLO.

MY NAME IS WELLINGTON CLA.

I AM, UH, CHAPTER SUPPORT SPECIALIST OF THE ASIAN REAL ESTATE ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA FOR THE PAST FIVE MONTHS.

AND A RECENT GRADUATE OF THE UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA IRVINE, UH, MAJORING IN URBAN STUDIES.

SO SOME OF MY, UM, BACKGROUND OTHER THAN THAT WOULD BE A RESEARCH ASSISTANT, UH, FOR THE EVALUATION OF THE HOUSING ELEMENTS AROUND ORANGE COUNTY, AS WELL AS THE REACTIONS TO THESE, UH, RECENT HOUSING POLICIES AND THE ORANGE COUNTY CITIES.

OTHER THAN THAT, UM, I HAVE MY RESUME IN FRONT OF YOU.

UM, AND I, I, UH, I DO PROMISE A DEDICATION AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION IF I WERE TO BE CHOSEN.

UH, I DO HAVE A LOT OF FREE TIME, UH, ASIDE OUTSIDE OF, UM, BEING A CHAPTER SUPPORT SPECIALIST FOR THE NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION.

OKAY.

RIGHT.

YOU WANNA HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YES.

UM, I THINK IT'S NECESSARY TO ASK YOU THE QUESTION BECAUSE EACH, UH, APPLICANT MUST RECEIVE THE SAME QUESTIONS, BUT YOU ALREADY SORT OF COVERED IT.

UM, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING THE INFORMATION.

YOU HAVE A STELLAR, UH, RESUME, UH, OR AT LEAST A TRANSCRIPT.

I WISH MY TRANSCRIPT HAD BEEN THAT FULL OF A PLUSES.

UM, THANK YOU FOR CHOOSING TO SERVE NATIONAL CITY IN THIS WAY.

I WOULD LIKE YOU TO ADDRESS YOUR DEDICATION TO THE CITY.

YOU HEARD FROM MR. SANCHEZ, THE AMOUNT OF, UH, READING MATERIAL THAT COMES WITH IT.

UM, IS THIS SOMETHING YOU'RE PREPARED TO DO? WHAT IS YOUR COMMITMENT TO ATTENDING THESE MEETINGS? BEING THAT IT IS A VOLUNTEER POSITION? UH, YES, I DO HAVE A LOT OF, UH, FREE TIME FOR THAT.

UM, AS IN MY SCHEDULE, UM, IT'S A MONDAY TO FRIDAY, UM, WORK SCHEDULE EIGHT TO FIVE.

UM, I KNOW THAT IT'S, THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS AFTER MY HOURS DURING THE EVENING, SO IT WOULD BE PERFECT FOR ME.

ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH WALLINGTON.

APPRECIATE IT.

ALRIGHT.

UH, WITH THAT WE DO HAVE THE TWO APPLICANTS AND WE WILL BE, UH, CITY CLERK WILL BE PASSING OUT, SLIPS YOUR NAME ON THERE, YOUR CHOICE, AND I'LL GO FOR TWO.

IT SAYS QUOTE.

HUH? GO FOR WHAT? JUST FOR ONE, ONE ON THAT.

THERE'S ONLY ONE C GO FOR ONE.

BUT THERE'S TWO, THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S THREE P THERE'S THREE NAMES.

ONE WAS, ONE WAS A NO-SHOW, BUT HE WAS STILL, UH, STILL IS SIGNED UP AND, BUT THERE'S ONLY ONE SEAT AVAILABLE, MR. MAYOR.

AND, AND AS CLARIFICATION, UM, ARE SOME OF THESE, UH, INDIVIDUALS WILLING TO SERVE IN OTHER COMMITTEES? I BELIEVE WE DIDN'T ASK THEM THAT, BUT I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF VACANCIES IN OTHER PLACES AND, UH, YEAH.

UM, I THINK WE'RE PRETTY MUCH, WELL, WE'LL GET DOWN TO THOSE OTHER ONES IN A MOMENT.

AND I THINK WE'RE PRETTY MUCH LOADED UP, BUT THEY DID NOT PUT DOWN, PUT DOWN FOR THOSE.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

SO WE WILL TOTAL THESE.

WE HAVE, UM, LET'S SEE, FOUR VOTES FOR, UH, RICARDO SANCHEZ AND ONE FOR WELLINGTON AND CLAVE.

SO CONGRATULATIONS RICARDO SANCHEZ.

OKAY.

FOR ANOTHER, ANOTHER TERM.

AND, UH, WELLINGTON, WE WOULD, UH, ENCOURAGE YOU TO STAY, STAY INVOLVED.

AND, UH, WE, UH, UH, AND I SHOULD SAY FOR ALL OF THESE, WE NORMALLY DO TWO ROUNDS PER YEAR.

WE NORMALLY DO 'EM IN SEPTEMBER AND IN MARCH.

AND, UH, BUT THEN WE ALSO HAVE TO DO A LOT OF TIMES WHEN THERE'S VACANCIES THAT COME UP, UH, IN BETWEEN.

AND THERE'S, THERE'S A NEED FOR QUORUM, UH, TO BRING UP APPLICATIONS AND, UH, FAIR.

YES.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE TO ASK MR. WELLINGTON IF HE WOULD BE INTERESTED IN SERVING IN THE CIVIL SERVICE SERVICE COMMISSION? BEING THAT WE STILL HAVE AN OPEN SEAT? I MEAN, WE CAN, CAN, WOULD YOU PLEASE COME TO THE MICROPHONE? YES.

UH, MR. K CLAVE.

OKAY.

YEAH.

WHAT WAS THE QUESTION AGAIN? THANK YOU.

UH, I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO WORK WITH NATIONAL CITY AND I AM INTERESTED IN ASKING IF, UH, THE MAYOR

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OKAYS IT.

UM, THIS CIVIL, WELL, THIS IS A COUNCIL APPOINTMENT, SO YEAH, THE CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION DOES HAVE AN OPENING.

UM, THIS IS A COMMISSION, UM, IF YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO APPLY, IS IT SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD BE INTERESTED IN? UH, SURE I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN.

OKAY.

OKAY.

UM, IF, IF IT'S OKAY WITH YOU, MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT MR. WELLINGTON TO THE CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION.

SECOND, I, SINCE THERE WAS JUST TWO A TWO APPLICANTS FOR TWO POSITIONS, I THINK WE CAN DO THAT BY VO VOICE VOTE TO GET THAT OUT IN A MOMENT.

UH, OKAY.

SO WE DO HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND PLEASE HIT YOUR, YOUR BUTTONS FOR MOTIONS.

GO AHEAD.

CAN YOU PUSH IT IN NOW? TRY IT AGAIN.

THERE WE GO.

AH, THERE WE GO.

HUH.

ACCORDING TO THAT, I SECONDED IT.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

I KNOW, BUT I'M LOOKING AT THIS ONE HERE.

THEY'RE DOING CRAZY THINGS ON ME TONIGHT.

UH, OKAY.

UH, ALRIGHT, SO WITH THAT WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, UM, PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION CARRIES.

CONGRATULATIONS.

YOU, YOU'LL NEED TO, UH, COME IN AND BE BOTH SWORN TO THE POSITION.

AND THEN ALSO THEY, THEY'LL GIVE YOU INSTRUCTIONS ABOUT THE COMMITTEE AND WHAT YOU'LL NEED TO PREPARE.

THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE WILL SEND YOU AN EMAIL OUT.

THANK JUDGE BY THE END OF WEEK AVAILABLE.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

GOOD.

WITH THAT, WELL , NEXT WE GO

[8.2 Appointments: City Boards, Commissions and Committees – Mayoral Appointment to the Board of Library Trustees; Park, Recreation & Senior Citizens Advisory Committee; Public Art Committee; and Traffic Safety Committee.]

TO ANOTHER SERIES OF APPOINTMENTS.

UM, AND THESE ARE THE, UH, MERRILL APPOINTMENTS AND, UM, ONE HICCUP.

YEAH, IT WORKED OUT WELL.

UM, WE HAVE, UH, FOR THE, UH, LIBRARY BOARD OF, UH, TRUSTEES, WE HAVE ACTUALLY THREE STATES AVAILABLE.

AND I WOULD, UM, LIKE TO APPOINT, UH, ELIZABETH MALDONADO ALSO, UM, NIJA MORENO, AND THEN ALSO THE INCUMBENT, UH, JSAN ELLA PROBLEMS WITH ALL THE NAMES TONIGHT.

UM, SO THOSE THREE, TO FILL THOSE THREE POSITIONS ON THE, UH, LIBRARY BOARD OF TRU TRUSTEES SECOND.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

SO WE HAVE, AND I SHOULD HAVE HIT MY MOTION, I GUESS.

OKAY, GUYS ON, I'M LIKE BOARD IT SHOWED UP THAT RIOS MADE THE MOTION AND CONNO SECONDED IT.

OKAY.

.

I KNOW.

SO AM I.

THE, SO AM I THE CONNO AND NEAR THE RIOS OR IS IT, YEAH, I DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS IS ABOUT AND, UH, BUT UH, ANYWAY, THAT'S OKAY.

WE'RE GONNA GO BY THOSE ONES UP THERE.

YEAH.

AND UH, SO, UH, WE DO HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND AND I GET IT.

OH, HE JUST HIT A BUTTON.

.

YEAH.

CAME UP A LITTLE.

DID I JUST BREAK SOMETHING? THERE YOU GO.

I KNOW THOSE CAME UP.

I'VE BEEN PUSHING THOSE OFF.

'CAUSE THEY MOTION PASSES.

CONGRATULATIONS.

ALRIGHT, SO THAT WAS, THOSE THREE WILL BE FOR THE LIBRARY BOARD OF TRUSTEES.

UM, UNDER THE, UH, UH, PARKS, RECREATION AND SENIOR CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE, WE ACTUALLY HAVE, UH, FOUR SEATS.

THREE OF THEM ARE TERMS, ONE OF THEM IS AN ALTERNATE POSITION.

AND SO, UH, THE, UH, SO THE FIRST ONE IS FOR A TERM THAT WILL END IN SEPTEMBER OF 27.

AND THAT ONE, UH, THE INCUMBENT DANIEL PEREZ.

UH, THEN WE HAVE A TERM THAT WILL FINISH IN MARCH, UM, OF 26.

AND THAT WILL BE JESUS ASSAN.

AND THEN WE HAVE A TERM THAT WILL END IN SEPTEMBER OF 26.

AND THAT'S LATOYA HARRIS CHROME.

THAT WAS THE MOTION THAT I WOULD MAKE.

I SECOND, UH, I JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, NOT, I'M NOT FILLING THE ALTERNATE 'CAUSE WE ONLY HAD THREE PEOPLE APPLY.

SO THAT WILL FILL THOSE, THAT WILL FILL ALL OF THE VOTING POSITIONS.

ALRIGHT.

UM, THANK YOU.

SO WITH THAT, UH, PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION PASSES.

CONGRATULATIONS.

OKAY.

UH, PUBLIC ARTS COMMITTEE, WE HAVE THREE SEATS AVAILABLE AND THESE ARE FOR THE FULL TERMS THROUGH SEPTEMBER 27TH.

UH, ERIC CARBAJAL, UM, CARMELA HINTON AND CHARLES RILEY.

CHARLES RILEY IS THE INCUMBENT.

WE HAVE, WE ONLY HAVE THREE PEOPLE THAT HAVE APPLIED AND WE HAVE THOSE THREE, THREE

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SEATS AVAILABLE.

SO THAT'S MY MOTION.

SECOND, A COUPLE MORE ANI FOR VOTE.

MOTION PASSES.

CONGRATULATIONS.

OKAY.

AND OUR LAST ONE IS FOR TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMITTEE.

THERE ARE TWO SEATS AVAILABLE THROUGH SEPTEMBER OF 27.

WE ONLY HAVE ONE APPLICANT.

YVONNE, HOW COMMON ARROW? AND THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION.

SECOND.

THERE YOU GO.

ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND PLEASE.

VOTE.

MOTION PASSES.

WE BASICALLY JUST ABOUT HAVE ALL OF OUR COMMITTEES FILLED UP THERE THEN.

RIGHT.

AND THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE WILL RE ADVERTISE FOR THE, THE, THE VACANCIES.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

ALRIGHT, WITH THAT, THAT GETS US THROUGH ALL OF THAT STUFF.

THAT'S 8 2 8 3.

AND LEMME GET BACK ON OVER HERE.

NOW, NEXT WE

[9. CONSENT CALENDAR]

GET TO CONSENT CALENDAR.

THESE ARE ITEMS NINE ONE THROUGH NINE 19.

I DO HAVE REQUEST TO PULL NINE 13 AND NINE 18.

MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE TO PULL 9.6.

9.6.

OKAY.

AND THAT WAS 9 6 9 13 9 18.

DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE? 9.5 AND NINE POINT 12.

MAYOR.

ALRIGHT, SO WE'LL BE PULLING 9 5 9 6, 12, 13, AND 18.

UH, COULD I HAVE A MOTION FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR? SO MOVED MAD, MR. CHAIRMAN.

SECOND.

OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION.

AND SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION PASSES.

OKAY, NINE

[9.5 Amendment of Chapter 18.29 of the National City Municipal Code to Add Regulations for the Mixed Use Overlay Zone.]

FIVE IS, UH, THE AMENDMENT TO CHAPTER 18.29 OF THE NATIONAL CITY MUNICIPAL CODE TO ADD A REGULATIONS FOR THE MIXED USE OVERLAY ZONE.

THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.

I JUST WANTED TO, UM, HIGHLIGHT THIS FOR, UM, AN ADDITIONAL, UM, AN ADDITIONAL COMMENT FROM OUR STAFF, UM, OF THE OVERSIGHT.

THANK YOU.

SURE.

THANK YOU.

CARLOS GARY, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR FOR THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY.

UH, DURING THE PROCESS OF PRESENTING THE FGPU, WE DID INCLUDE, UH, THE MIXED USE OVERLAY ZONE IN CONCEPT IN ALL OF THE PUBLIC MEETINGS AND HEARINGS.

UNFORTUNATELY, WE DID NOT INCLUDE THE NARRATIVE, WHICH WAS TO BE INCLUDED.

SO THE MAP HAD THOSE PORTIONS PRESENTED FOR THE MIXED USE OVERLAY OVERLAY.

HOWEVER, 18.29 70 MIXED USE OVERLAY ZONE WAS EXCLUDED FROM THE UPDATE.

THE TITLE 18.

MIND YOU, UH, TITLE 18 IS A PRETTY LENGTHY DOCUMENT AND, UM, WE, WE REVIEWED IT OVER AND OVER AND THERE WAS A NUMBER OF SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES.

UNFORTUNATELY, WE MISSED THIS.

IT'S NOT INCON, IT'S NOT INCONSISTENT WITH ANY OF THE WORK THAT WE DID OR PRESENTATIONS THAT WE, UH, PUT OUT TO THE COMM TO THE COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU.

UH, WITH, WITH THAT, I, UH, MOVE TO APPROVE.

I SECOND.

OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, UH, THUMB UP HERE.

PLEASE VOTE.

OKAY.

PASSES.

NEXT WE GO TO, UH,

[9.6 Approval of a Settlement Agreement between Sophia Bhandari, Sierra Wilson and Tony Philip Wilson and the City of National City.]

NINE SIX.

THIS IS APPROVAL OF A SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN SO SOPHIA R UH, SIERRA WILSON, AND TONY PHILLIP WILSON AND THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

I PULLED THIS ITEM BECAUSE THERE WAS A, UH, UH, COMMENT THAT WAS, UH, SUBMITTED FOR THIS ITEM.

AND I WOULD WISH I WOULD ASK, UH, OUR CITY ATTORNEY TO PLEASE ADDRESS THE COMMENT.

OKAY.

SO BEFORE I ADDRESS THE, THE PUBLIC COMMENT, I DO WANNA MAKE, UM, A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.

UM, FIRST IS THAT THIS SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT IS NOT AN ADMISSION OF LIABILITY.

THIS IS SOLELY A COMPROMISE TO AVOID THE CONTINUING EXPENSES RELATED TO THE LITIGATION.

THE OFFICERS INVOLVED WERE ACTUALLY CLEARED OF ANY WRONGDOING BY A DISTRICT

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ATTORNEY INVESTIGATION.

WE HAVE CONTINUED FAITH IN OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND OUR POLICE OFFICERS, AND WE CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THEM AS THEY RISK THEIR LIVES TO PROTECT OUR CITIZENS.

WITH RESPECT TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT FROM MR. GODSHAW, AND I THINK YOU HEARD SOME OF THAT DURING PUBLIC COMMENT, UM, IT IS TRUE THAT ON JUNE 18TH WE HAD A CLOSED SESSION REGARDING THIS MATTER.

AND IN FACT, THIS COUNSEL DID AUTHORIZE US TO PURSUE SETTLEMENT FOR THE AMOUNT OF $350,000 UP TO UP TO $350,000 UNDER THE GOVERNMENT CODE.

I AM REQUIRED TO REPORT OUT ACTIONS THAT ARE TAKEN BY THE CITY COUNCIL.

HOWEVER, IF FINAL APPROVAL OF A SETTLEMENT RESTS WITH SOME OTHER PARTY OR THE COURT, NO DISCLOSURE REPORT IS REQUIRED UNTIL THE SETTLEMENT BECOMES FINAL.

AFTER OUR CLOSED SESSION, I HAD TO GO BACK TO COURT AND REPORT THAT WE HAD A AUTHORITY TO SETTLE AND THE CASE SETTLED.

TONIGHT, WE ARE BRINGING IT BACK IN OPEN SESSION SO THAT THE PUBLIC IS AWARE THAT A SETTLEMENT WAS MADE WITH RESPECT TO, UM, THE CITY'S EXPOSURE.

UM, OUR, OUR MONETARY EXPOSURE IS LIMITED TO $250,000.

THE REMAINDER OF IT IS COVERED BY INSURANCE.

SO IN ADDITION TO THE A HUNDRED AND SOME THOUSAND DOLLARS ABOVE OUR CAP, THERE WAS ALSO ABOUT 300 AND SOME THOUSAND DOLLARS THAT WERE EXPENDED ON ATTORNEY'S FEES.

THOSE ARE ALL COVERED UNDER INSURANCE.

UM, WE WERE REPRESENTED BY WILLIAM PATE, DEVANEY PATE, MORRIS, AND CAMERON.

AND I THINK THE LAST QUESTION HE ASKED WHETHER THERE'S TWO, ONE IS, UM, UNDER OUR LINE ITEM BUDGET FOR RISK MANAGEMENT, WE ALLOCATE APPROXIMATELY 1,000,100 $16,000 TO COVER ANY POTENTIAL EXPOSURE THAT WE HAVE IN LITIGATION.

TO DATE.

BEFORE THIS, OUR EXPENDITURES HAVE BEEN APPROXIMATELY $40,000.

AND THEN LASTLY, HE MADE REFERENCE TO AN EMILY HOWELL AND ASKED WHO SHE WAS.

WELL, SHE HAPPENED TO BE THE COUNSEL FOR THE PLAINTIFFS AND SHE SIGNED THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT ON BEHALF OF THE, THE PLAINTIFF'S COUNSEL.

SO IN CONCLUSION, I DID NOT MISLEAD THE PUBLIC.

I FOLLOWED MY OBLIGATIONS UNDER THE GOVERNMENT CODE.

AND WE ARE HERE TONIGHT TO PROVIDE THE PUBLIC WITH A NOTICE THAT THIS MATTER HAS BEEN SETTLED.

IF, IF I CAN, I'M GONNA PUT IT IN AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT VENUE.

AND THAT IS, SHALL WE SAY IN CLOSE SESSION, WE ARE ALLOWED TO DEAL IN CLOSED SESSION WITH LEGAL ISSUES AND ALSO LIKE REAL ESTATE AND PERSONNEL ISSUES.

THOSE ARE ALLOWED TO BE DONE IN CLOSED SESSION.

AND THEN THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS YOU HAVE TO REPORT OUT, BUT I'M GONNA TAKE IT OVER TO REAL ESTATE.

SO WE'RE NOT DEALING WITH A CASE, SHALL WE SAY WE HAVE TO BUY A PIECE OF PROPERTY TO DO SOMETHING AND WE GIVE OUR AGENTS, IN THAT CASE, WE GIVE THEM AUTHORITY UP TO A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS TO BUY THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY.

BUT THEY GO AND THEY GO INTO AND HAVE THE MEETING AND THEY'RE ABLE TO TALK TO PEOPLE INTO THE PEOPLE SAY, WELL, WE'LL TAKE 300,000 FOR IT.

OKAY? WOULDN'T IT HAVE BEEN STUPID IF WE'D COME OUT AND REPORTED OUT A CLOSED SESSION, SAID THE COUNCIL GAVE, GAVE PERMISSION UP TO $500,000.

YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD'VE BEEN, THAT WOULD'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW, RATHER A FOOLISH THING TO DO.

AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY IT IS NOT REQUIRED UNDER LAW TO DO THAT.

TO GIVE OUT WHAT YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU'RE GOING UP TO.

AND SO THE SAME THING WAS SOMETHING ALONG THIS LINE.

AND, UH, SO, UM, EVERYTHING WAS FOLLOWED THE WAY IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ATTORNEY SCHULTZ FOR THAT EXPLANATION.

AND THANK YOU MR. MORRISON FOR THAT EXAMPLE.

I MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION AS SUGGESTED BY STAFF.

SECOND.

HEY, WE HAVE A, YOUR SECOND DISAPPEARED ANYWAY, PLEASE VOTE.

IT'S OKAY.

SECOND MM-HMM, MOTION PASSES.

ALRIGHT, THAT WAS NINE SIX.

WE NOW GO TO NINE

[9.12 Performance Report of Annual Fire Safety Inspections]

12.

NINE 12.

THIS IS A PERFORMANCE REPORT ON THE ANNUAL FIRE SAFETY INSPECTIONS.

MR. MAYOR, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN HIGHLIGHT THE GOOD WORK THAT OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT DO FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND FOR OUR PEOPLE.

THIS CANNOT JUST BE A CONSENT.

I WANNA HIGHLIGHT IT.

AND I WANTED OUR CHIEF TO PLEASE SHOW OFF .

GOOD EVENING, VICE MAYOR ROBERT HERNANDEZ, DIVISION CHIEF NATIONAL CITY FIRE.

UH, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

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IT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT, UM, THAT WE MAINTAIN SAFETY IN OUR COMMUNITY, UH, WITHIN OUR BUSINESSES.

UM, AND ALSO THE SCHOOLS AND HIGH RISES AND MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.

AND WE HAVE QUITE A FEW.

UM, AND IT'S OUR, UH, IT'S SUPER IMPORTANT FOR US TO MAKE, MAKE SURE THAT WE GET OUR PEOPLE OUT THERE, UH, INSPECT THESE PLACES, ASSURE THAT THEY ARE COMPLIANT, UM, WORK WITH THEM, UM, TO GAIN COMPLIANCY, UH, IN A VERY, UH, HELPFUL WAY.

UM, AND THEN MAKE SURE THAT OF COURSE, IF A BUSINESS OWNER, UH, INVITES OUR PUBLIC INTO THE BUSINESSES AND OR THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES THAT THEY'RE SAFE AND ULTIMATELY TO ASSURE THAT THE FIRE PERSONNEL AND EMERGENCY SERVICES THAT RESPOND THERE ARE ALSO SAFE.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH ON BEHALF OF THE DEPARTMENT.

WE THANK YOU FOR ACKNOWLEDGING THAT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU CHIEF.

UM, WITH THAT MAYOR, UM, MOVE TO ADOPT THIS RESOLUTION.

I SECOND.

OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

UH, PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION PASSES.

OKAY, NEXT WE GO

[9.13 Police Officer Association Salary Increase]

TO ITEM NINE 13.

THIS IS THE POLICE OFFICER'S ASSOCIATION, UH, SALARY INCREASE.

AND, UH, MR. EDO, I, UH, LIKE YOUR PRESENTATION, THE PRESENT IN THE, UM, REGARDING THE LEGALITIES IN THE BUDGETING, THAT ONE LINE ITEM IN THE APPROPRIATIONS, A MILLION DOLLARS, YOU PUT IT AWAY.

YOUR, YOUR, UM, YOU ANTICIPATED IT, THE COST FOR THAT, BUT I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE POLICE SALARIES.

I THINK THEY DESERVE ALL THE MONEY THEY SHOULD BE GETTING.

THAT'S A GOOD EXPENDITURE AND THAT THERE'S BAD EXPENDITURES, BUT THIS IS A VERY GOOD EXPENDITURES AND THIS IS ONE THAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS.

MY QUESTION IS NOT THAT I KNOW EVERYTHING, AND I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AN EXPLANATION IS WHY WAS NOT THE $968,000 INCLUDED IN THE PRE PRELIMINARY BUDGET OR AN ESTIMATED AMOUNT? YOU KNOW, IT'S ALMOST LIKE EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM KNEW THAT IT WAS PRETTY MUCH GONNA HAPPEN.

INSTEAD OF SAYING WE HAVE A $5 MILLION BUDGET PROJECTED BUDGET DEFICIT.

WE REALLY STARTED OFF WITH, EVERYBODY ANTICIPATED A LOT MORE.

WE KNEW THAT.

AND THAT'S MY QUESTION.

OKAY.

I KNOW MAYBE IT'S THE SAME THING THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU ASKED IN TERMS OF, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T WANNA TIP YOUR HAT BEFORE IT HAPPENS, BUT IN THIS ONE CASE YOU HAD A MILLION DOLLARS ALREADY STORED AWAY, YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS TO ME YOU COULD HAVE HAD, YOU COULD HAVE DONE THE SAME THING.

THAT'S A THAT'S A QUESTION.

YEAH.

IF, IF I CAN, UH, THE DIFFERENCE HERE, THIS IS NOT A REGULAR CONTRACT, UM, YOU KNOW, INCREASE AMOUNT, IT'S WHAT WE CALL PEGGING.

SO, UH, A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, THE, UH, WE HAD A REAL SHORTAGE OF POLICE OFFICERS.

WE HAD A VERY DIFFICULT TIME IN RECRUITING BECAUSE WE HAD SO MANY DEPARTMENTS THAT WERE THEIR, THEIR SALARIES WERE SO MUCH HIGHER THAN OURS.

AND, AND SO WE EITHER HAD A HARD TIME RECRUITING OR IF WE RECRUITED, THEY WENT THROUGH OUR PROCESS, WE DID ALL THE TRAINING, EVERYTHING ELSE.

THEN THEY WENT TO ANOTHER, ANOTHER DEPARTMENT.

AND SO WE BECAME A RECRUITING SERVICE FOR EVERYBODY ELSE, A TRAINING SERVICE.

UH, SO WE DID A PEGGING AND IT WAS BETWEEN, UH, SO YOU HAD THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.

SO WE WENT BETWEEN NUMBER TWO AND NUMBER THREE.

WE CHANGED THAT RECENTLY DURING OUR LAST NEGOTIATION, THAT BETWEEN NUMBER THREE AND NUMBER FOUR.

SO WE'RE KIND OF LIKE THREE, THE THREE AND A HALF MARK.

SO THERE'S SOME OF 'EM THAT ARE HIGHER THAN US AND SOME THAT ARE LOWER THAN US.

BUT THAT GETS ADJUSTED AFTER THERE'S A SURVEY THAT'S DONE AND IT'S TIMED HAS TO BE TIMED.

AND SO THEREFORE, WE DON'T KNOW IN JUNE WHAT THAT AMOUNT'S GONNA BE UNTIL AFTER THAT SURVEY IS DONE.

AND, UH, AND SO, AND IT, AND SINCE YOU END UP WITH SO MANY DEPARTMENTS AND EVERYTHING ELSE, THEIR CONTRACTS ARE UP JUNE 30TH, THAT'S WHEN WE KNOW WHAT, WHAT THEIR AMOUNTS ARE.

AND THAT TAKES PART OF THE SURVEY.

SO IT IS, IS A BIT OF A TIMING DEAL, BUT, UH, WE, WE KNOW IT WAS GONNA BE AN AMOUNT.

WE JUST DIDN'T KNOW.

DON'T KNOW EXACTLY.

AND YES, LYDIA MIGHT BASICALLY SAYING THAT, RIGHT? YES, SIR.

THAT IS CORRECT.

SO THE CITY HAD TO DO THE SURVEY AND UH, WE DID A, THE SURVEY TO DETERMINE WHERE OUR OFFICERS WERE, WHERE THE RANKS WERE.

AND SO WE MADE THAT DETERMINATION AND THEY ARE NOW AT STEP AT FOUR, WITHIN THE 10 VARIOUS AGENCIES.

IT'S LOGICAL.

IT MAKES SENSE.

LET ME ABSORB IT.

OKAY.

BUT IT'S STILL ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S SORT OF LIKE WE KNEW IT WAS GONNA HAPPEN AND WE TALK ABOUT A $5 MILLION DEF, UH, BUDGET, UH, DEFICIT.

IT COULD HAVE BEEN, WE KNEW IT WAS GONNA BE MORE FROM THE VERY BEGINNING.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT, EVERYBODY, UH, 9 18, 9, I'M SORRY, NINE 13, WHICH IS OUR POLICE OFFICER

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ASSOCIATION.

THE, UH, SALARY INCREASE.

I MOVE TO APPROVE.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

SECOND AND A SECOND.

SEE NO DISCUSSION.

PLEASE VOTE.

THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU.

UH, NEXT WE GO ON

[9.18 Warrant Register #5 for the period of 7/26/24 through 8/1/24 in the amount of $8,869,936.22]

TO NINE 18.

THIS IS A WARRANT REGISTRY NUMBER FIVE.

AND, UH, THOMAS REICH.

YES, THANK YOU.

I READ WARRANT NUMBER FIVE, OR WARRANT NUMBER SIX.

AND THERE'S 30, THERE'S 35,000 FOR TWO 35,000, AND FOR A MOTORCYCLE FOR TWO MOTORCYCLES, WHICH ARE 70,000.

AND THAT'S, I'D JUST LIKE TO KNOW IF THEY'RE TRIUMPH OR HARLEY DAVIDSON.

OH, OKAY.

.

THANK YOU.

UH, WE WILL LOOK, WE HAVE OUR CAPTAINS SITTING THERE.

DO YOU KNOW WHAT, WHAT OUR MOTORCYCLES, WHAT, WHAT BRAND WE ARE? WE ARE PURCHASING.

I BELIEVE THEY'RE HONDA.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING TOO.

BUT I, I'M NOT A MOTORCYCLE GUY, SO I'M NOT SURE WHEN HE SAID THE TWO.

I SAID, I DON'T THINK IT'S EITHER ONE OF 'EM, BUT ANYWAY.

OKAY.

.

ALRIGHT.

YEAH.

UH, UH, I'M SORRY.

WHEN I WAS GROWING UP, UH, AS KIDS, WE, WE BOUGHT MOTORCYCLES 'CAUSE THEY WERE SO MUCH CHEAPER IN A CAR.

UH, NOW, YOU KNOW, THEY COST THE SAME AS WHEN I BOUGHT MY HOUSE.

OKAY.

UM, ALL RIGHT.

WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE ON NINE 18? SO, MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS IS FOR THE WARRANT REGISTRY.

UM, PLEASE SECOND.

AND WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION CARRIES.

NEXT WE END UP, WE

[10.1 Ordinance for Second Reading and Adoption – Unauthorized Camping or Encampments on Public Property]

GO TO OUR CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING.

THIS IS THE ORDINANCE FOR A SECOND READING AND ADOPTION OF THE UNAUTHORIZED CAMPING OR ENCAMPMENTS ON PUBLIC PROPERTY.

AND, UH, WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND WE, I DON'T HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON THIS ONE.

AND WE HAVE PLENTY OF DISCUSSION AT OUR MEETING TWO WEEKS AGO.

UM, SO WITH THAT, WE DO NOT HAVE ANY, ANY PUBLIC SPEAKERS AND NOPE.

AND I'VE GOT, I'VE GOT NO SPEAKERS ON THIS ONE.

UH, SO WITH THAT, I WOULD, UH, ASK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

VOTE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

MR. MAY SECOND.

OKAY.

THIS IS JUST TO CLOSE IT WITH THAT, UH, COMES UP HERE.

PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION CARRIES.

ALRIGHT.

AND, UH, SO THAT WILL BE ON THAT ONE.

THEN WE WILL WE MOVE ON THEN TO, HUH? OH, THAT WAS JUST TO CLOSE.

I'M SORRY.

WE STILL GOTTA, WE STILL HAVE TO HAVE THE VOTE ON ADOPTION.

OKAY.

SO WITH THAT, UNLESS THERE IS ANY DISCUSSION, CAN WE GET A MOTION FOR ADOPTION? MOVE TO APPROVE? YEAH.

MOVE TO ADOPT.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

SECOND.

OKAY.

WE HAD A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR ADOPTION OF THE ORDINANCE.

PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION PASSES TO ADOPT.

ALRIGHT, WITH THAT, NOW WE MOVE ON INTO,

[11.1 First Substantial Amendment to the FY24-25 HUD Annual Action Plan to reallocate CDBG funds to Water and Sewer Improvements.]

UH, ARE A COUPLE OF OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS.

UH, 11 ONE.

THIS IS THE FIRST SUBSTANTIAL AMENDMENT TO THE FISCAL YEAR 24 25 HUD ANNUAL ACTION PLAN TO REALLOCATE CDBG FUNDS TO WATER AND SEWER IMPROVEMENTS, AND HAVE A PRESENTATION.

AND THEN WE, I THINK I GOT ONE SPEAKER.

NO FORMAL PRESENTATION, UH, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.

UM, WE ARE, UH, PROPOSING TO AMEND THE FISCAL YEAR 24 25 HUD ANNUAL ACTION PLAN TO REALLOCATE 570 UH, THOUSAND $184 FROM, UH, SECTION 8, 1 0 8, EXCUSE ME, SET ASIDE TO, UH, A SEWER IMPROVEMENT PROJECT, UH, BY OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.

UH, TONIGHT, UH, STEVEN MANGANELLO, OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, WILL, UH, JUST PROVIDE A SHORT SYNOPSIS OF WHAT IS INTENDED TO BE DONE WITH THE CBT FUNDS.

THANK YOU.

UH, THANKS, DIRECTOR GEARY.

UH, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL.

STEVE MANGANELLI, DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING PUBLIC WORKS.

UM, IN LIGHT OF THE JANUARY, UM, STORM EVENTS, UH, ONE OF OUR BIGGEST

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PRIORITIES CONTINUES TO BE, UM, LOOKING FOR FUNDING TO IDENTIFY, PRIORITIZE, AND REPLACE DETERIORATED CORRUGATED METAL STORM DRAIN PIPES THROUGHOUT THE CITY, AND PARTICULARLY IN FLOOD PRONE AREAS.

UH, THESE TYPES OF PIPES WERE INSTALLED A VERY LONG TIME AGO.

UH, THEY ARE PRONE TO, UH, RUSTING OUT AND CAN LEAD TO SINKHOLE.

UM, IN FACT, WE DID HAVE SEVERAL SINKHOLE, UM, THAT THAT CAME UP IN THIS LAST STORM EVENT.

SO, SO THESE CDBG FUNDS, UH, WILL DEFINITELY HELP, UH, DO A COUPLE THINGS.

ONE IS WE'LL BE ABLE TO USE SOME OF THE FUNDS TO PERFORM, UH, CCTV CAMERA INSPECTIONS OF, UH, ALL OF OUR CORRUGATED METAL PIPE, UM, PARTICULARLY IN THE FLOOD PRONE AREAS.

THEN WE CAN REVIEW THAT, THAT DATA, AND PRIORITIZE THE LOCATIONS BASED ON THE CONDITIONS OF THE PIPES.

SO THAT'S REALLY THE GOAL.

UM, IF THEY'RE, UH, IF SOME MONEY'S LEFT OVER, THEN WE WILL CREATE A VERY, UM, SHORT FOCUS LIST OF HIGH PRIORITY, UH, LOCATIONS, AND THEN USE THE REMAINING FUNDS TO ACTUALLY REPLACE THOSE WITH EITHER, UH, REINFORCE CONCRETE PIPE OR HIGH DENSITY POLYETHYLENE PIPES, WHICH ARE THE CURRENT STANDARDS.

SO THAT'S, UH, IN, UM, VERY SHORT SUMMARY.

THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THE FUNDING.

AND WE, UH, CERTAINLY APPRECIATE COUNCIL SUPPORT 'CAUSE IT'S A, A VERY HIGH PRIORITY FOR OUR, OUR CITY.

THANK YOU.

OF STAFF ON CLARIFICATION.

YES.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UH, THANK YOU MR. MANGANELLO.

UH, I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THE STRATEGY HERE FOR MOVING FUNDS FROM, UH, CDBG TO THIS NEED.

UM, UH, I'M VERY HAPPY THAT WE'RE FINDING MONEY TO REPAIR THE PIPES IN THE CITY, BUT, UM, IS THIS, UH, HAS THIS DONE, BEEN DONE BEFORE IN THE CITY? IS THIS A PRACTICE THAT WE TEND TO DO? IS THIS THE FIRST TIME IT'S DONE? HMM.

UH, YES, ABSOLUTELY.

WHEN WE FIND A, A PROJECT THAT IS OF MORE PRIORITY TO THE COMMUNITY, WE DEFINITELY CAN CONSIDER REPRIORITIZING CDBG FUNDS AS NECESSARY.

PERFECT.

THANK YOU.

MY SECOND QUESTION IS THE, HOW, WHEN WILL THE PIPES BE, WHAT IS THE, THE TIMELINE FOR THIS PROJECT? WHEN WILL THE PIPES BE REPLACED? WELL, WHAT I WOULD CAUTION IS WE DO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF THESE PIPES THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

AND TO PUT, UH, THINGS IN PERSPECTIVE AS FAR AS COST WHEN YOU FACTOR IN, UH, THE COSTS TO RE UH, REPLACE THE PIPE, UH, WITH SAY RCP AND THEN MOBILIZATION TRAFFIC CONTROL, WE'RE, WE'RE ROUGHLY LOOKING AT ABOUT A THOUSAND DOLLARS OF LINEAR FOOT.

SO IF YOU ONLY HAVE $500,000 AND SOME OF THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, USED FOR THE INSPECTIONS, WE'LL BE LUCKY TO REPLACE ABOUT 300 LINEAR FOOT.

SO, UM, WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS AT BUDGET TIME WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT CIP AND, AND, AND COUNCIL.

WE, UH, DID A GREAT JOB PRIORITIZING A MILLION DOLLARS OF GENERAL FUND TOWARDS THESE TYPES OF IMPROVEMENTS.

IT WILL TAKE SOME TIME AND A LOT OF MONEY TO GET THROUGH THESE LOCATIONS, BUT THIS IS A GOOD START.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT, MAYOR, WITH THAT, OH, YES, GO AHEAD.

JUST A, A COMMENT.

THANK YOU.

UM, REALLY WANNA COMMEND THE EFFORTS OF OUR PUBLIC WORKS TEAM.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. MANGEN.

UM, WE, THESE ARE THE KIND OF PROJECTS THAT WE DON'T THINK ABOUT UNTIL THEY BECOME A PROBLEM.

AND SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING SO PROACTIVE, MAKING SURE THAT OUR INFRASTRUCTURE IS TAKEN CARE OF.

UH, VERY MUCH APPRECIATED.

THANK YOU.

YEAH.

THESE, THESE ARE THE KIND OF THE EPITOME OF THE OLD SLOGAN.

SLOGAN, UH, OUT OF SIGHT, OUT OF MIND UNTIL THEY BREAK.

YEAH.

SO, ALRIGHT.

WITH THAT, WE DO WANT TO, UM, WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I HAVE NO SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM.

MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SECOND, MR. MAY WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION PASSES.

OKAY.

NOW, COULD WE HAVE MOTION CONCERNING THE ITEM? MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION AS, UH, LISTED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

SECOND.

OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION PASSES.

ALRIGHT, NEXT WE GO

[11.2 Public Hearing No. 1 of 2 on the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) 2025-2029 Consolidated Plan and 2025-2026 Action Plan]

ON TO PUBLIC HEARING NUMBER ONE OF TWO ON THE US DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT, UH, THEIR 25 THROUGH 29 CONSOLIDATED PLAN AND THE 25 THROUGH 26 ACTION PLAN.

AND, UH, CARLOS GARY, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.

YES, WE DO HAVE A VERY

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BRIEF PRESENTATION ON THIS PROCESS.

UH, SO WE'LL JUST WAIT UNTIL THE POWERPOINT COMES AVAILABLE.

SO THANK YOU.

UM, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, UH, STAFF MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.

UH, TONIGHT WE ARE PRESENTING PUBLIC HEARING NUMBER ONE OF TWO, UH, FOR THE FIVE YEAR CONSOLIDATED PLAN AND THE 25 26 FISCAL YEAR ANNUAL ACTION PLAN FOR THE CDBG COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT AND A HOME UH, PROGRAM.

UM, THE CITY RECEIVES, UH, WELL OVER THREE POINT, UH, $2 MILLION IN APPROXIMATELY $3.2 MILLION IN CDBG FUNDS.

AND APPROXIMATELY 2.1 TO $2.3 MILLION OF HOME FUNDS, UH, EVERY FI IN AN ALLOCATE IN A FIVE YEAR ALLOCATION, UH, FROM THE US DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT.

UH, THIS IS A YEAR WHEN WE HAVE TO WRITE THE FIVE YEAR CONSOLIDATED PLAN AND THE FIRST YEAR ANNUAL ACTION PLAN, UH, FOR THAT FIVE YEAR PLAN.

UH, OUR TIMELINE FOR THE PROCESS, UH, WE LAUNCHED THE SURVEY AS OF SEPTEMBER 1ST.

THIS IS OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING.

UH, WE WILL HAVE A STAKEHOLDER AND COMMUNITY INPUT SEC, UH, SESSION, WHICH WILL BE VIRTUAL ON, UH, OCTOBER 7TH.

WE WILL ALSO HAVE INPUT FROM OUR PLANNING COMMISSION IN, UH, THE FIRST MEETING OF NOVEMBER IS PLANNED.

UH, THE SURVEY WILL CLOSE ON, UH, OCTOBER 31ST, AND THEN SOMETIME IN THE WINTER WE WILL RELEASE, UH, THE FUNDING NOFA FOR BOTH CDBG AND HOME.

AND WE'LL COME BACK WITH THE PRESENTATION OF THE FIRST YEAR CONSOLIDATED, UH, OR THE FIVE YEAR CONSOLIDATED PLAN, EXCUSE ME, IN THE ANNUAL ACTION PLAN.

IN THE SPRING, UH, SURVEY TOPICS INCLUDE HOUSING OPTION, HOUSING SERVICES, PUBLIC FACILITIES, LIKE THE PROJECT THAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE, UH, WE JUST, OR YOU JUST REALLOCATED TO, UH, AND INFRASTRUCTURE AS WELL AS SOCIAL SERVICES FOR NATIONAL CITY.

UH, TO, UH, THERE'S A QR CODE FOR AND A SURVEY LINK AVAILABLE.

UH, FOR MORE INFORMATION, UM, YOU CAN VISIT OUR WEBSITE AT WWW.NATIONALCITYCA.GOV/CDBG HOME, AND I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ON THAT PROCESS.

ANY QUESTIONS? YES.

THANK YOU.

MR. AGIRI.

I'M SURE THIS QR CODE IS GONNA BE ADVERTISED ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIA PAGES AND CORRECT, YOU KNOW, SO THAT FOLKS CAN, UH, SUPPLY THEIR OR PROVIDE THEIR RESPONSES.

THAT, THAT IS CORRECT.

WE, WE DO HAVE, UM, WE'VE ALREADY, UH, ADVERTISED IN EVERY FORMAT, INCLUDING SOCIAL MEDIA FLYERS AT OUR HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS AND DEPARTMENTS AND COMMUNITY CENTERS.

THANK YOU.

SO, YEAH, THANK YOU.

I DO ENCOURAGE THE PUBLIC TO PLEASE SUBMIT YOUR RESPONSES.

THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO LET US KNOW WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO YOU.

AND I APPRECIATE THAT YOU'RE PUTTING THIS SURVEY TOGETHER.

THANK YOU MR. AGUIRE.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

WITH THAT, WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I DO HAVE ONE SPEAKER ON THIS ITEM.

UH, PLEASE.

I KNOW I'M GONNA MESS UP YOUR NAME.

SOUS MIHA, CORRECT.

OKAY.

KUTA.

UM, MAY I APPROACH THE COUNCIL BENCH? UH, DO YOU HAVE MATERIALS TO PASS OUT OR SOMETHING? YES, SIR.

IF YOU'LL GIVE THOSE TO THE CITY CLERK.

THANK YOU.

UM, GOOD EVENING.

I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT A PROPOSAL FOR FEDERAL FUNDS IN NATIONAL CITY TO IMPROVE CALIFORNIA'S HOUSING CRISIS.

MY NAME IS MITA KAARI.

I AM A NEW RESIDENT OF NATIONAL CITY AND I'M ONE OF THE CO-OWNERS OF A FLAT PIECE OF LAND TOUCHING 16TH STREET AND EAST 17TH STREET.

I'M HERE TO PROPOSE A FEASIBILITY STUDY FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF EAST 17TH STREET AND HARSON AVENUE TO ALLOW FOR MORE HOUSING.

THESE STREETS ARE CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED DIRT ROADS AT THE MOMENT.

MOST OF THE PARCELS TOUCHING THESE LOTS ARE LARGE, 0.4 TO 0.5 ACRE LOTS.

MOST OF THE OWNERS HAVE BUILT THEIR HOMES ON THE HALF OF THE LOTS IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION OF THE PROPOSED STREETS FOR IMPROVEMENTS DUE TO A LACK OF UTILITIES.

THE BACK OF HALF OF THESE, UH, THE BACK HALF OF MOST OF THESE LOTS TOUCHING EAST 17TH STREET AND HARSON AVENUE ARE LEFT EMPTY AS NO ONE INDIVIDUAL IN NATIONAL CITY MIGHT BE FINANCIALLY CAPABLE OF DEVELOPING THESE STREETS DUE TO THEIR LONG LENGTHS.

THIS PROPOSAL IS TO ASK FOR THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY TO ASSIST IN THEIR DEVELOPMENT WITH FEDERAL FUNDING.

THE PROS OF THIS PROPOSAL DEVELOPING EAST 17TH STREET AND HARSON AVENUE WILL PRESENT THE FOLLOWING BENEFITS.

OWNERS ARE BETTER ABLE TO USE SENATE BILL NINE AND CREATE LOT SPLITS BY HAVING HALF

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A LOT TOUCHING THE STREET WITH UTILITIES.

OWNER CAN EITHER SELL THEIR LOTS OR TO DEVELOPERS OR DEVELOP ON THE LOTS THEMSELVES.

MOST OF THE BACK HALF OF THE LOTS ARE SLOPING INWARDS INTO THE STREETS PROPOSED FOR DEVELOPMENT.

AND THIS WILL ALLOW DEVELOPERS TO HAVE AN EASY SEWAGE LINE SETUP VIA GRAVITY FLOW SYSTEMS. THIS WILL LOWER THE COST OF DEVELOPMENT AND IT WILL ENCOURAGE MORE HOUSING IN THESE AREAS.

BOTH EAST 17TH STREET AND HARSON AVENUE ARE LOCATED NEAR PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

THE DEVELOPMENT OF THESE STREETS WILL ALLOW FOR MORE HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES FOR YOUNG FAMILIES WITHIN WALKING DISTANCES OF THESE SCHOOLS.

THE ZONING MAP OF NASHVILLE CITY CURRENTLY HAS MX C ONE ZONING AREAS BORDERING OR ADJACENTS TO THE STREETS PROPOSED.

IF THE PROPOSAL STREETS ARE DEVELOPED, MULTI-UNIT HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES COULD BE AVAILABLE ON THE LOTS TOUCHING THE STREETS WITH THIS ZONING.

FINALLY, THIS PROPOSAL WILL SUPPORT NATIONAL CITY'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND I URGE THIS COUNCIL TO TAKE THIS HIGHLY INTO CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

AND YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE AREA OF 17TH BETWEEN TON AND RACHEL, RIGHT? CORRECT.

AND THEN ALSO THE HARON? CORRECT.

SO THE PROPOSAL IS FOR BOTH OF THESE STREETS TO BE CONSIDERED AS AN AREA, NOT AS INDIVIDUAL STREETS, AS THEY'RE VERY CLOSELY LOCATED TOGETHER AND THE RESOURCES COULD BE SHARED IN THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

YEAH.

WERE YOU, YOU HAVE A QUESTION OF HER? YES.

THANK YOU.

MAYOR, COULD YOU COME BACK UP? WE STILL HAVE A QUESTION HERE.

MY QUESTION IS, UH, I BELIEVE THIS IS, UM, THESE AREAS ARE WITHIN DISTRICT FOUR, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, THEY ARE.

OKAY.

SO, UM, I APPRECIATE YOUR APPROACHING US.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR PROVIDING THIS PUBLIC TESTIMONY.

UM, THE INFORMATION ALSO IS VERY SUBSTANTIAL.

UM, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO REACH OUT TO DISTRICT FOUR REPRESENTATIVE, MR. UH, COUNCIL MEMBER MARCUS BUSH.

WE DON'T HAVE THAT ONE, ONE DISTRICT FOUR REPRESENTATIVE YET.

WELL, YEAH, TRUE.

, THE DEFACTO REPRESENTATIVE OF DISTRICT FOUR MARCUS BUSH.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

UH, THAT'S ALL THE SPEAKERS THAT I HAVE ON THIS ITEM.

AND, UH, UM, WITH THAT, UM, 'CAUSE I SAY THIS IS MORE ON THE URBAN DEVELOPMENT CONSOLIDATE PLAN AND THEIR ACTION PLANS, UH, FOR THOSE TWO DIFFERENT PERIODS OF TIME.

AND SO THEREFORE, I'M GONNA ASK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING SO THAT WE CAN GET INTO DISCUSSION.

WELL, WELL, I JUST HAD A, A COMMENT.

I REALLY APPRECIATE THE SPEAKER COMING OUT AND HAVING THIS, UH, PROPOSAL AND JUST THE, THIS IDEA.

SO IT, YOU KNOW, WE, I JUST WANT TO BE REAL FOR ME.

UH, I, I WANT TO, YOU KNOW, OUR STAFF WOULD NEED TIME TO LOOK AT IT, BUT I, YOU KNOW, FOR A DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL THAT COULD TAKE A LONG TIME AND I, I JUST DON'T WANNA HOLD UP, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, OTHER PROJECTS WE HAVE.

SO I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU DOING THE THOROUGH ANALYSIS AND, AND, AND LOOK, I'M, I'M REALLY IMPRESSED BY IT.

BUT, BUT WE REALLY DO NEED TIME TO REALLY COME OVER THIS AND CONSIDER IT.

BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, GIVEN OUR HOUSING CRISIS, AND, UH, I KNOW, I THINK THERE'S SOME EASEMENT ISSUES.

IT, IT JUST, WE REALLY NEED TIME TO, TO LOOK AT IT, BUT I THINK IT'S, IT'S WORTH, WORTH, UH, STAFF, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST TAKING A LOOK AT IT.

SO, BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE THE INITIATIVE AND HOPING TO CONTINUE THE, THE CONVERSATION.

YEAH.

IT, IT'S NOT A NEW IDEA.

IT'S COME UP A COUPLE TIMES BEFORE AND HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION, PARTICULARLY ON 17TH STREET STARTS.

YEAH.

SO, WITH THAT, UM, TO CLOSE, OKAY, WE'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND.

THERE WE GO.

LET'S, THIS IS JUST TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

THERE WE GO.

ALRIGHT.

MOTION PASSES.

OKAY.

SO NOW ANY DISCUSSION OR A MOTION? THANK YOU, MR. MERRI, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING ON THIS ITEM SPECIFICALLY.

UM, I'VE PERSONALLY WALKED THIS, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD AND WONDERED WHAT HAPPENED BECAUSE, UH, IT'S COMPLETELY MISSING, UH, ROADS AND THERE'S EMPTY LOTS IN A HOUSING CRISIS.

UH, ALSO WOULD LIKE TO REMIND OUR COMMUNITY THAT MANY OF OUR ROADS ARE STILL NOT PAVED, INCLUDING, UH, 15 TO 20% OF OUR ALLEYS.

UM, SO WE HAVE A VERY BIG INFRASTRUCTURE NEED, AND THANK YOU FOR HIGHLIGHTING SOME OF THIS HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

OKAY, MR. MAYOR? YES.

UM, I APPRECIATE THE OUTREACH.

YOU KNOW, SPANISH AND TAGALOG.

I WAS READING THE FILIPINO TRANSLATION AS REALLY LAUGHING BECAUSE OF HOW IT WAS TRANSLATED.

SO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THAT'S MY TONGUE.

FILIPINO TAGALOG.

IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT I CAN HELP, SO THEN THE FILIPINO COMMUNITY CAN UNDERSTAND IT PROPERLY, THEN PLEASE GIMME A CALL AND MAKE SURE TO HELP.

THANK YOU.

THEY WERE USING GOOGLE.

WE, WE, UH, HIRE, UM, A PROFESSIONAL TRANSLATION SERVICES.

SO WE'LL TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT.

IN, IN OUR FUTURE, UH, PUBLICATIONS, WE MAKE AN EFFORT TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, ALL OF OUR FEDERAL, UH, COMMUNICATIONS ARE TRILINGUAL AS YOU SEE FROM THE STAFF REPORT.

SO, UH, I, I WILL, I WILL HAVE A CONSIDERATION FOR THAT.

MM-HMM.

.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

UM, WITH

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THAT, MR. MAYOR.

OKAY.

OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION FOR ADOPTION.

OH, IT'S NOT, UH, ADOPTION'S MOVE TO COME BACK PUBLIC.

OH, THIS IS, THIS IS JUST A PUBLIC HEARING.

YEAH.

IN THIS CASE, THIS IS JUST RECEIVE COMMENTS, WHICH CORRECT.

WE RECEIVED THE COMMENTS.

YEAH.

SO THIS ONE, THIS IS, BECAUSE THIS IS ONE OF TWO, AND WE'LL COME BACK, COME BACK WITH THE, UH, THAT, THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

SO WE HAVE CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING, SO WE CAN MOVE ON NOW.

NEXT WE GO ON

[12.1 Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) Providing Rent Stabilization in National City Mobilehome Parks for a Term of Ten Years Effective January 1, 2025.]

TO OUR STAFF REPORTS, AND WE HAVE, UH, ITEM OUR MEMO, MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING PROVIDING RENT CIVILIZATION IN NASHVILLE CITY MOBILE HOME PARKS FOR A TERM OF 10 YEARS, EFFECTIVE JANUARY, UH, FIRST OF 2025.

SURE.

AND STAFF, I THINK YOU DO HAVE A REPORT.

YES.

UH, THANK YOU, UH, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.

CARLOS CURIE, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FOR THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY.

UH, TONIGHT WE HAVE A PRESENTATION, UH, FOR A PROPOSED MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING, IMPACTING, UH, OR CREATING RENT STABILIZATION FOR A 10 YEAR PERIOD, UH, IN ALL FOUR NATIONAL CITY, UH, MOBILE HOME PARKS.

I DO HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION AND I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AT, UH, THE END OF THE PRESENTATION.

UM, THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY, UH, PASSED AN ORDINANCE ON DECEMBER 6TH, ADOPTED AN ORDINANCE ON DECEMBER 6TH, 2022.

UH, DUE TO THE FACT THAT IT BEGAN TO ACKNOWLEDGE, UH, AND HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT EXCESSIVE RENT INCREASES, UH, PARTICULARLY AT TWO OF THE FOUR, UM, MOBILE HOME PARKS IN NATIONAL CITY, UM, THAT ORDINANCE, UM, UM, PROHIBITED, UH, MANAGEMENT TO INCREASE, UM, THE RENTS.

UH, 3% PLUS A PERCENT HAS CHANGED IN THE, UH, SAN DIEGO METRO URBAN AREA, CPI, UM, THE, AND CAPPED AT 5%, UM, WHICHEVER WAS LOWER.

UH, IT ALSO DID NOT ALLOW, UH, RENTS TO BE, UH, IN INCREASED IN MORE THAN TWICE IN A 12 MONTH PERIOD.

UM, OUR STAFF WAS CONCERNED BECAUSE THIS WAS A TEMPORARY EMERGENCY MEASURE THAT, UH, SUNSET OR EXPIRED ON DECEMBER, OR WOULD EXPIRE ON DECEMBER 31ST, 2024.

UH, IN NATIONAL CITY, THERE ARE, UH, FOUR MOBILE HOME PARKS, UH, WITH 359 MOBILE HOME PARK SPACES.

UH, AND APPROXIMATELY 176 OF THOSE ARE ON LONG-TERM LEASES.

THAT'S MORE THAN 12 MONTHS, AT LEAST.

THAT'S LONGER THAN 12 MONTHS.

UH, SO THOSE BY, UH, STATE STATUTE, UH, ARE NOT, UM, SUBJECT TO RENT CONTROL.

UH, THE PROPOSED MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING, WE BEGAN WORKING, UM, THROUGH, UM, UH, BOTH WITH THE COMMUNITY AND WITH, UH, THE OWNERS, UH, TO LOOK AT A LONGER TERM, UM, SOLUTION, UH, OR CARRY OVER OF THE BENEFITS OF THE, UH, CURRENT, UH, MOBILE HOME, UH, STABILIZATION ORDINANCE.

UM, WE REALLY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT, UM, MAKING SURE THAT WE PROVIDED THE BENEFIT, UH, TO TENANTS, BUT, UH, AS WELL LISTENED TO THE OWNERS WITH REGARDS TO PROVIDING, UM, A FAIR RATE OF RETURN ON THEIR INVESTMENT.

UM, THE PROPOSED, UH, MOU WOULD BE BETWEEN THE OWNERS AND THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY AND WOULD BECOME EFFECTIVE AT THE TURN OF THE YEAR ON JANUARY 1ST, 2025.

UH, WE'VE WORKED DILIGENTLY AND NEGOTIATED WITH THE, UH, ALL FOUR OWNERS, AND THEY HAVE AGREED TO SIGN THE MOU AS HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO YOU TONIGHT.

UM, AND WE CAN COME BACK AND AMEND, UM, THE POTENTIALLY AMEND IT IF IT'S NOT WORKING AS THE ORDINANCE HAS IN TERMS OF PROVIDING THAT, UH, RENT UTILIZATION.

UH, SOME OF THE MAJOR PROVISIONS OF THE MOU, IT CARRIES OVER FROM THE ORDINANCE.

UM, THIS WOULD NOT ALLOW FOR MORE THAN ONE INCREASE IN A 12 MONTH PERIOD.

UH, BUT AGAIN, IT CAPS, UH, AT 3% PLUS, UH, THE, UH, PERCENTAGE CHANGE OF THE CONSUMER PRICE INDEX, UH, UP TO 5%.

UM, AND ALLOWS FOR THROUGH ADJUSTMENTS, INCLUDING, UH, GOVERNMENT FEES AND ASSESSMENTS, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, CAPITAL REPLACEMENTS, PROPERTY TAX INCREASES, UH, CERTAIN EMERGENCY COSTS, UH, ABOVE AND BEYOND THOSE COVERED BY INSURANCE POLICIES.

AND, UM, AND THAT, THAT WOULD BE IT.

THERE ARE, UM, VERY SPECIFIC, UH, REGULATIONS AND NOTICING REQUIREMENTS FOR THESE PASSTHROUGH ADJUSTMENTS.

UM, I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON THOSE.

UH, BUT FOR THOSE THAT,

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UH, FOR THOSE THAT WOULD NEED TO BE AMORTIZED LONGER TERM, THEY, THE AMORTIZATION PERIOD WOULD BE AS REQUIRED BY THE INTERNAL, UH, REVENUE SERVICE CODE.

UH, AND WOULD, WOULD, WOULD NOT CREATE A A IN OUR ESTIMATION, AND, AND, AND LOOK AND DOING THE ANALYSIS WOULD NOT CREATE AN UNDUE BURDEN ON THE TENANTS, UH, MOVING FORWARD FOR THAT 10 YEAR PERIOD.

I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.

UM, IF I COULD REAL QUICK, THE SIX ITEMS YOU HAD THERE ON PASS THROUGH ADJUSTMENTS, UH, I SEE FIVE OF THEM ARE WITH, THEY, THEY GET ELIMINATED AT THE END OF AN AMORTIZATION PERIOD.

SO IF THAT'S AN AMORTIZED AMOUNT, THEN WHEN, ONCE THAT, ONCE THAT'S PAID UP, THEN, THEN THAT GOES AWAY.

THAT'S CORRECT.

BUT NOW ANY PART PROPERTY OR PARCEL TAXES, THOSE WOULD BE IN PERPETUITY, THEN THOSE WOULD CONTINUE.

YEAH.

SO REALLY THE PASS THROUGHS ARE, IF THERE IS ANY, UM, IF THERE'S A, AN EVENT THAT'S OUT OF THE ORDINARY, THEN THAT WOULD BE SPREAD OUT.

FOR INSTANCE, IF THERE WAS A PROPERTY TAX INCREASE THAT WOULD BE SPREAD OUT IN A FIVE YEAR TERM MM-HMM.

SO THAT IT WOULDN'T CREATE AN UN UNDUE BURDEN ON THE, ON THE TENANTS MM-HMM.

.

AND WE FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THAT IN CASE OF THAT EVENT.

ALRIGHT.

UH, YES.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I DO HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THESE PASS THROUGH ADJUSTMENTS.

THIS IS THE PORTION OF THIS MOU THAT IS NEW, THAT THIS WAS NOT PART OF THE MOU THAT WAS PUT IN PLACE THAT IS GONNA EXPIRE THIS DECEMBER, AND THEN WE'RE ADDING THIS TO THAT MOU AND MAKING IT FOR 10 YEARS.

THAT IS CORRECT.

BUT YOU MENTIONED THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE CHANGES TO THIS MOU WITHIN THAT TENURE PERIOD.

UH, THAT YES, WE HAVE, UH, INCLUDED LANGUAGE IN THE AGREEMENT TO REVISIT IF THERE ARE ISSUES THAT, UM, ALLOW THIS NOT TO WORK, UH, IN, IN THE WAY IT WAS INTENDED TO.

OKAY.

UM, ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.

UH, DO YOU KNOW HOW THESE, UH, EXPENSES WERE HANDLED? UM, RIGHT NOW WE'RE SAYING NOW THEY WILL BE HANDLED AS A PASS THROUGH ADJUSTMENT TO EACH OF THE TENANTS WITHIN THE, UH, MOBILE HOME PARK, UM, PRE IF THIS HADN'T BEEN ON THERE, HOW ELSE ARE THESE EXPENSES, OR IN THE PAST, HOW HAVE THEY BEEN FUNDED INCREASES? SO, SO THE INCREASES, IT'S, SO THE INCREASE IN, IN THESE PASS THROUGH ADJUSTMENTS BEFORE THE ORDINANCE WERE JUST PART OF THE INCREASES IN RENT, ASSUMED IN THE INCREASES OF RENT.

UM, THE OWNERS DID SHARE THEIR ABSOLUTE CONCERNS AND DID THREATEN US TO, TO, UH, PURSUE LEGAL, UH, AVENUES TO, TO, TO MAKE THINGS RIGHT FOR THEM IF WE DID NOT, IF WE LOOKED AT EXTENDING THE ORDINANCE WITHOUT CONSIDERING THE PASS THROUGHS.

AND, UH, WE BELIEVE THAT THEY'RE FROM A, FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT, THEY WERE IN A, IN A POSITION TO, TO, UM, TO ASK FOR THESE IN A, AS A FAIR RATE OF RETURN BECAUSE WE DID, WE WERE COPYING, UH, HOW MUCH THEY CAN, THEY COULD COLLECT AND RENT IT.

IT DID NOT CONSIDER THESE OTHER FIVE COMPONENTS THAT, UH, WOULD BASICALLY MAKE IT INFEASIBLE FOR THEM TO OPERATE, UH, THE PARKS.

MM-HMM.

.

SO IN DOING THAT ANALYSIS, WE DID COME TO THE SAME CONCLUSION THAT IT WOULD NOT BE FEASIBLE FOR THEM, AND THAT WE WOULD HAVE A TIME, DIFFICULT TIME DEFENDING THE ORDINANCE FOR MORE THAN TWO YEARS.

MM-HMM.

.

SO, UH, WE HAD TO COME TO A POSITION WHERE WE, WE COULD AGREE AND CONTINUE THE BENEFIT OF HAVING RENT STABILIZATION FOR, UH, FOR THE LONGER TERM.

THANK YOU.

YES.

UM, I, I DO AGREE THAT, UH, THIS SEEMS LIKE A FAIR WAY TO MANAGE THIS EXPENSE.

UH, I, I HAVE, YOU KNOW, FULL DISCLOSURE, UH, I, I DON'T KNOW THE TIMELINE, BUT MONTHS AGO I DID MEET WITH, UH, TWO OF THE TENANTS OR TWO OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS MM-HMM.

FROM THESE MOBILE HOME PARKS.

AND YES, THEY HAD A VERY COMPELLING ARGUMENT FOR, YOU KNOW, HOW DO THESE COSTS, YOU KNOW, HELP ME UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO UPKEEP A MOBILE HOME PARK? UM, BUT I'M NOT GETTING A RATE OF RETURN THAT IS GONNA PENCIL OUT.

SO I THINK THIS IS A VERY BALANCED APPROACH.

UH, I ALSO THINK THAT IT IS FAIR TO THE TENANTS, YOU KNOW, THE WAY THAT IT IS STRUCTURED, IT'S NOT GOING TO ABRUPTLY AFFECT, UM, TENANTS WITH ADDITIONAL COSTS.

THERE'S A WAY THAT, YOU KNOW, IT WILL, UH, ALLOW THEM MAYBE TO ADJUST TO ADDITIONAL FEES THROUGH THESE PASS THROUGH ADJUSTMENTS.

SO, UH, I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT THIS MOU IS A BALANCED APPROACH BOTH FOR THE TENANTS AND THE OWNERS.

AND I APPRECIATE ALL OF THE WORK THAT HAS GONE THROUGH.

I KNOW THERE WERE SEVERAL DISCUSSIONS.

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UM, THE CITY DID PUT A LOT OF THOUGHT AND, UH, NEGOTIATED FAIRLY, I BELIEVE, FOR BOTH SIDES.

SO I DO APPRECIATE THE WORK.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UM, MR. GARY.

NOW WITHOUT THIS IN THERE, AND I'M NOT SAYING ANYONE DID THIS OR WOULD DO IT, BUT WITHOUT THAT IN THERE, BEFORE YOU COULD SAY, OKAY, WELL, I'M HAVING TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS.

I HAD TO DO THIS.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO SHOW WHAT THE AMOUNT IS OR WHATEVER YOU JUST SAY, BUT WE'RE GONNA RAISE THE RENT BECAUSE I GOTTA COVER MY EXPENSES THIS WAY.

NOW YOU BASICALLY HAVE TO SHOW THIS IS THE NUMBERS AND HERE'S HOW WE'RE GONNA AMORTIZE IT OVER THIS PERIOD.

SO THERE'S MUCH MORE CONTROL NOW THAN THERE CERTAINLY WAS BEFORE.

YES.

UH, MAYOR, WHAT'S GREAT ABOUT THE AGREEMENT IS A COMMITMENT TO DISCLOSE THE PASS THROUGHS SO THAT, UM, THE TENANT, BOTH THE, WELL THE TENANTS UNDERSTAND AND EACH PASS THROUGH WILL BE ITEMIZED.

MM-HMM.

.

SO THEY, THEY UNDERSTAND AND, AND WILL BE NOTICED.

MM-HMM.

, UH, UH, BEFORE THE, THE PASTOR IS IMPLEMENTED.

SO THEY UNDERSTAND WHY THEY INCREASE MM-HMM.

ABOVE AND BEYOND THE 3% PLUS CPI CA, UH, UH, INDEX.

OKAY.

AND JUST FOR PUBLIC DISCLOSURE, I ALSO MET, I THINK WITH TWO OF THE DIFFERENT OWNERS.

THIS WAS LIKE LAST YEAR.

AND THEY BASICALLY PRESENTED BASICALLY WHAT WE HAVE HERE BEFORE US TONIGHT AT THAT POINT.

AND, UH, THIS WAS EARLIER PART OF LAST YEAR, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT.

SO, OKAY.

UM, MAY, CAN I ADD TO MY COMMENT? SURE.

I'M, I'M VERY SORRY.

I, I, I FAILED TO MENTION THE ONE PART I THINK THAT HELPS BALANCE THIS EQUATION OUT IS, UM, ONE OF THE, UM, SO I DID MEET WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS, BUT THEN I ALSO HAD MET WITH MANY OF THE TENANTS.

AND ONE OF THE CHIEF COMPLAINTS IS THAT, UM, SADLY, YOU KNOW, MAYBE SOME SITUATIONS WILL GO THROUGH DISREPAIR AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT OUR TENANTS IN A PROPERTY THAT IS NEEDING REPAIRS, BUT THEY HAVEN'T HAPPENED.

SO I THINK THIS IS A GOOD WAY FOR THE TENANTS THEMSELVES TO ALSO PLAY A PART IN THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE NEEDED AT THE MOBILE HOME PARKS AS THEY COME UP.

AND, UH, HAVING THEM SORT OF, UM, UH, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, PLAY A PART IN THE PRIDE THAT COMES WITH THE PLACE THAT YOU LIVE IN.

UH, I THINK THAT IS ALSO A BIG PLUS FOR THE TENANTS.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

WE DO HAVE THREE SPEAKERS.

AND MR. MR. MAYOR, I WANTED TO HAVE, THANK YOU.

I WANNA JUST ASK A QUESTION REALLY QUICK.

OKAY.

UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH CARLOS AND STAFF FOR WORKING ON THIS ITEM.

I DO HAVE A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT THE PASS THROUGH ADJUSTMENTS.

WHAT HAPPENS IN THE CASE OF A MOBILE HOME CHANGING OWNERSHIP? UH, THERE IS A, A CLAUSE WHICH, UH, EXPLAINS WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THERE IS A INCREASE IN THE ASSESSMENT.

THEN THAT ASSESSMENT WOULD BE SPREAD OUT, UH, FOR A FIVE YEAR PERIOD.

SO THAT IS COVERED BY MM-HMM, THE PASS THROUGH ADJUSTMENT.

SO THE PASS THROUGH ADJUSTMENT MEANS THAT IF THE PROPERTY IS SOLD IN A FEW YEARS AT A HIGHER AMOUNT THAN IT WAS PURCHASED A FEW YEARS AGO, THEN IT'S WORTH MORE.

AND HENCE THEY PAY A HIGHER PROPERTY TAX.

IT WOULD PAY A HIGHER PROPERTY TAX RATE, POTENTIALLY, YES.

POTENTIALLY.

YEAH.

AND POTENTIALLY THAT WOULD THEN BE AMORTIZED THROUGH THE, UH, TENANTS OVER A PERIOD OF FIVE YEARS? THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY.

JUST WANTED AND ONLY THE INCREASE SO THAT, YEAH.

THAT WOULD BE, WHATEVER THAT MARGIN WOULD BE, WOULD BE AMORTIZED OUT.

SO THE IMPACT OF THE, THE SALE WOULD NOT BE FELT BECAUSE IT WOULD BE SPREAD OUT THROUGH FIVE YEARS.

THANK YOU.

AND, UH, AND IN FULL DISCLOSURE, I DID NOT MEET WITH ANY OF THE LANDLORDS.

I THINK I'VE, I'VE, UM, MET, UM, UH, A COUPLE MR. KIM EARLIER THIS YEAR.

UH, BUT I HAVE MET WITH RESIDENTS, UH, MULTIPLE TIMES.

UM, FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE, UH, JULIE POLLY.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

I'M JULIE POLLY WITH THE WMA.

AND I THINK I MET WITH MANY OF YOU REGARDING THIS MM-HMM.

TOPIC.

WE'VE BEEN, UH, WORKING ON IT SINCE, UM, PROBABLY THE DAY AFTER YOU PASSED , THE TEMPORARY ORDINANCE.

UM, SO, UH, WE ARE IN SUPPORT OF APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED MOU THAT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.

TWO YEARS AGO, A RENT INCREASE FROM, UH, AT LEAST ONE OR TWO PROPERTIES BECAME A SOURCE OF DIS UH, DISRUPTION, CAUSING THE THEN COUNCIL TO PASS THE TEMPORARY RENT, UH, CONTROL ORDINANCE PERTAINING TO THE CITY'S FOR MOBILE HOME PARKS.

THIS ORDINANCE IS STILL IN EFFECT AND SUNSETS AT THE END OF THE YEAR.

AT THE TIME, THERE WAS CONCERN THAT IT WAS NECESSARY BECAUSE THERE WAS A STATEWIDE PROPOSAL, RENT CONTROL, UM, UH, BILL IN SACRAMENTO THAT HAD NOT BEEN ADOPTED.

KNOWING THE LEGALITY OF THE STATEWIDE PROPOSAL WAS QUESTIONABLE, W MA AND THE PARK OWNERS APPROACHED STAFF ABOUT THE PROSPECTS OF AN MOU OR CONTRACT, RATHER THAN AN ORDINANCE BEFORE THE CURRENT TEMPORARY ORDINANCE SUNSETS AS A CORE VALUE.

WE DON'T BELIEVE IN RENT CONTROL AND ALL OF THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES THESE LAWS BRING, BUT WE DO PROMOTE AND WIDELY

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USED PRIVATE AGREEMENTS WITH LONG-TERM LEASES BETWEEN THE HOMEOWNER AND THE RESIDENT, AS WELL AS MOUS BETWEEN PARK OWNERS AND JURISDICTIONS.

UM, SOME CITIES THAT ARE USING IT CURRENTLY ARE VISTA, RANCHO CORDOVA, RANCHO CUCAMONGA, SUNNYVALE, ONTARIO, MODESTO VISALIA, ALL HAVE SOME FORM OF MOU.

THE DOWNSIDE OF RENT CONTROL LAWS IS THAT IN ORDER FOR THEM TO BE CONSTITUTIONAL, THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE, UH, A PROCESS FOR A PROPERTY OWNER TO RECEIVE A FAIR RATE OF RETURN.

I THINK MR. SCHULTZ HAS ADVISED ON THIS EARLIER THIS YEAR, DEALING WITH A EVICTION MORATORIUM.

THESE HEARINGS ARE CONDUCTED THROUGH A RENT BOARD AND ARE EXPENSIVE AND DIVISIVE.

THEY TYPICALLY HAVE FOUR PARTIES IN NEED OF LEGAL REPRESENTATION.

THE CITY, THE RENT BOARD CANNOT SHARE THE SAME ATTORNEY OR, UM, THE PARK OWNER AND THE RESIDENTS TYPICALLY HAVE ATTORNEYS.

UH, CASE LAW MANDATES THE APPLICATION.

IF AN APPLICATION IS SUCCESS SUCCESSFUL, THE PARK OWNER'S COST TO PETITION GETS PASSED THROUGH TO THE RESIDENTS, WHICH ARGUABLY ARE THE, PROBABLY THE LEAST ABLE TO AFFORD THIS.

SO, UM, THE MOU IS A WIN FOR ALL PARTIES.

IT'S VOLUNTARILY AGREED INTO INSTEAD OF IMPOSED.

SO THE ENFORCEMENT SHOULD BE SIMPLE.

IT'S, UH, ISN'T DISRUPTIVE TO THE HOMEOWNERS.

IT SIMPLY EXTENDS THE TERMS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN PLACE FOR ANOTHER 10 YEARS IN JURISDICTIONS.

I LISTED ABOVE, UH, OR I LISTED EARLIER, THEY HAVE ALL BEEN RENEWED, UH, SEVERAL TIMES BECAUSE OF THEIR SUCCESS.

SO IF THE GOAL IS TO PROTECT MOBILE HOME PARK RESIDENTS AND NATIONAL CITY TAXPAYERS, THIS IS A WIN.

AND I REALLY HOPE THAT YOU'LL SUPPORT IT.

SO, UM, I HAVE 15 SECONDS AND I JUST WANT TO USE IT TO THANK YOUR STAFF FOR APPROACHING THIS WITH AN OPEN MIND AND CREATIVELY 'CAUSE I REALLY THINK IT MEETS EVERYONE'S GOALS OF PROTECTING ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS ON, ON THIS TOPIC.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

NEXT WE HAVE, UH, UH, SUSAN MITRA, ARI, SHE BACK IN THE ROOM.

I DON'T SEE HER HERE NOW.

OKAY.

WE WILL GO WITH KIM.

UM, SSON, MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

UH, MY NAME IS KIM SSON.

UH, I'VE OWNED MOBILE HOME PARKS FOR 40 YEARS, AND, UH, I'VE HAD EXPERIENCE WITH RENT CONTROL HERE IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.

AND I, I CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT A MUCH BETTER DEAL IS.

MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING IS VERSUS A RENT STABILIZATION ORDINANCE.

RIGHT NOW, SANTA ANA JUST ENACTED RENT CONTROL, AND WE ARE IN THE MIDST OF A FAIR RATE OF RETURN APPLICATION THAT WILL BE SUCCESSFUL, I'M SURE.

AND I AM, I'VE ALREADY SPENT ABOUT $150,000 IN MY APPLICATION TO THE CITY THAT WILL BE THEN PASSED ON TO THE, TO THE RESIDENTS, WHICH IS JUST A BAD DEAL.

WHEREAS THE AGREEMENT THAT WE NEGOTIATED WITH MR. AGIRI ELIMINATES ALL OF ALL OF THAT MESS.

AND, UH, I'VE GOT A LOT OF EXPERIENCE, UH, WITH RENT CONTROL AND THIS MOU IS A, A MUCH, MUCH BETTER DEAL.

SO I URGE IT THAT YOU, UH, ADOPT IT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

YOU HAVE A LATE ARRIVAL HERE.

OKAY.

UM, SEE VINA RAMIREZ.

HI.

GOOD EVENING.

UH, FIRST TIME UP HERE.

SO BEAR WITH ME.

I HOPE NOT TO RAMBLE, BUT , UH, I AM HERE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF SOME OF THE SENIORS THAT LIVE AT HAPPY HOLLOW MOBILE HOME PARK.

I ACTUALLY DO TAKE CARE OF MY MOTHER, FINANCIAL, SHE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD THE CURRENT SPACE RENT AT HAPPY HOLLOW, WHICH IS $1,135 AND 10 CENTS.

THAT'S JUST THE SPACE.

WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT UTILITIES, WHICH CAN VARY BASED ON USAGE OF WATER, GAS, AND ELECTRICITY.

THERE ARE SOME FIXED EXPENSES LIKE THE SEWER AND TRASH.

SO WE'RE TACKING ON AN ADDITIONAL, ABOUT $43 ON TOP OF THE SPACE PER MONTH.

NOW, I DON'T KNOW EVERYONE'S PERSONAL INCOME, BUT GOOGLE SAYS AVERAGE INCOME IS ABOUT $1,600 FOR SOCIAL SECURITY PAYMENTS.

MY MOM MAKES LESS THAN THAT.

SO OBVIOUSLY THAT'S A LOT OF HER FIXED INCOME GOING TOWARDS THE RENT.

AND I DO BELIEVE A LOT OF MY NEIGHBORS ARE IN THAT PREDICAMENT.

AND UNFORTUNATELY, THEY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO MAKE OUT HERE TO SPEAK ON BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ELDERLY.

SO I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU GUYS TO CONSIDER THOSE THAT ARE ON FIXED INCOME.

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THAT IS A LOT OF MONEY.

WE'RE NOT TALKING ANY FOOD, ANY OTHER EXPENSES, ANY MEDICAL EXPENSES.

AND JUST SO TO GET ANOTHER POINT ACROSS, UM, THIS RENT CAP WOULD HELP AT LEAST TO STAY WITHIN A REASONABLE AMOUNT, NOT MAKE IT WORSE THAN WHAT IT IS, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WOULD BE IF THE CAP WOULD NOT BE THERE.

SO I HOPE THE CITY COUNCIL TAKES EVERYONE'S SITUATION IN.

I MEAN, OVERVIEW AND VOTES IN FAVOR FOR THIS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALRIGHT.

UH, THIS IS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING, SO WE DO NOT NEED TO CLOSE OR ANYTHING ELSE.

UH, OKAY.

MEMBER RODRIGUEZ.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

UM, I'M GONNA REPEAT THIS IN ENGLISH, BUT I'LL, I'LL GO AHEAD AND SAY IT IN SPANISH ENT, SO I'LL REPEAT THE SAME THING IN ENGLISH.

UM, REALLY WANNA THANK THE RESIDENTS FOR, UM, BEING ADVOCATES AND PARTICIPATING IN THE PROCESS.

WANNA THANK THE OWNERS FOR, UH, BEING WILLING TO NEGOTIATE AND ALWAYS COMING TO THE TABLE.

UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR STAFF, FOR BEING THERE AND ALWAYS BEING WILLING TO BE NEGOTIATORS ON BEHALF OF EVERYBODY.

AND THANK YOU TO OUR EXECUTIVE ASSISTANTS THROUGH OUR COUNCIL OFFICE, INCLUDING LUIS VASQUEZ, CINDY LOPEZ, GIOVANNI EZ, AND ERNESTO RODRIGUEZ, WHICH FOR THE PAST YEAR HAVE HAD A SERIES OF INFORMATIONAL WORKSHOPS FOR THE COMMUNITY TO INFORM WHAT'S HAPPENING.

AND I THINK THAT IS AN ESSENTIAL ROLE THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO PLAY AS A LOCAL GOVERNMENT.

SO, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ALSO, THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THE LAST YEAR, WE'VE, AND THIS INFORMATIONAL SESSION, WE'VE REALIZED THAT WHAT THE RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR IS NOTHING OUT OF THE ORDINARY.

THERE ARE ORDINANCES IN PLACE JUST AROUND THE REGION IN THE CITY OF SANTEE, AND THE CITY OF OCEANSIDE AND THE CITY OF CHULA VISTA, IN ORDER TO LACK LOOK OUT FOR THE TENANTS AND THE OWNERS.

AND SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO REALIZE THAT WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR IS NOTHING OUTTA THE ORDINARY.

IT IS JUST WANTING TO BE IN PAR WITH THEIR NEIGHBORS.

AND, UH, ONE THING WE'VE NOTICED ABOUT OCEANSIDE IN PARTICULAR, WE HEARD ABOUT THE AVERAGE RENT PRICE THERE FOR THIS SPACE.

AND IT IS CONSIDERABLY LOWER THAN IT IS HERE.

BUT GRANTED, THE LAW HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR 40 YEARS.

AND SO WE, WE SPOKE TO SOME OF THE, UH, ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS THAT CAME OVER.

UM, ALSO, IT'S IMPORTANT TO REALIZE WHY WE'RE DOING THIS.

SO OVER THE LAST, WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING IN THE US OVER THE LAST, UM, UH, NINE YEARS SINCE 2015,

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WE'VE SEEN A CHANGE IN PROPERTY.

30% OF ALL MOBILE HOME PARKS WITHIN THIS COUNTRY HAVE CHANGED HANDS OVER THIS PERIOD OF TIME.

AND WHAT IT'S COST IS A DRASTIC INCREASE IN RENT, UH, FOR INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE MOST VULNERABLE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND CAN'T GO ANYWHERE ELSE.

THEY'VE INVESTED THEIR LIFE SAVINGS IN PURCHASING THESE UNITS THAT THEY CANNOT MOVE.

AND, AND SO, UM, OUR JOB, I FEEL AS, AS ELECTED OFFICIALS AND A CITY IS TO LOOK OUT FOR EVERYBODY, OWNERS AND RESIDENTS INCLUDED.

BUT AS WE'RE DISCUSSING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WE DISCUSSED EARLIER, UM, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS ISSUE OF, OF, UH, HOMELESSNESS, RIGHT? PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, IT'S A BIG ISSUE.

WELL, A BIG PART OF IT IS THROUGH INCREASING RENT PRICES.

AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PROTECT THE MOST VULNERABLE POPULATION IN OUR COMMUNITY AND PROTECT THE MOST AFFORDABLE UNITS THAT THERE ARE.

AND THAT IS CURRENTLY THE MOBILE HOME COMMUNITY.

AND SO, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR EVERYBODY INVOLVED IN GETTING US TO THIS POINT.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION.

UM, I GUESS IT'S ITEM 12.1.

I WILL GO AHEAD AND SECOND THAT WE HAVE OTHER SPEAKERS.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

JUST, UH, FULL DISCLOSURE, I THINK I MET WITH MS. JULIE, UM, LAST YEAR AFTER THE, UH, THE TPO WAS PASSED.

AND, UH, I'M GLAD THAT, UM, DIRECTOR AGUIRE, UM, HAD PUT TOGETHER YOU, I MEAN, THE OWNERSHIP AND THEN THE TENANTS LEFT AND RIGHT WITH THE FACILITATION OF, OF, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER RODRIGUEZ, THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS, UM, TO, UM, MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

I THINK'S A WIN-WIN SITUATION, I KNOW IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO HAVE SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, IN WRITING.

SO THEN THERE WILL BE NO CONFUSION.

THERE'LL BE NO HEARTACHES, UM, OWNERS AND, UM, TENANTS ARE PROTECTED.

UM, 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THEY TAKE CARE OF EACH OTHER WITHOUT THE HOME, THERE'S NO PLACE FOR THEM TO LIVE.

SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, I, AND THAT MR. AIA, THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS HAPPEN.

AND, UH, THANK YOU FOR THE STAKEHOLDERS, UM, OF, UH, MEETING, YOU KNOW, I, AND MEETING OF THE MINDS AND, AND AGREEING THAT THIS IS, UM, A WIN-WIN SITUATION FOR ALL.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

ANYBODY ELSE? LEMME JUST, JUST SAY QUICKLY, UM, YEAH, THIS HAS BEEN VERY MUCH AN ONGOING EFFORT AND WE APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW, THE, UM, THE CONCERNS AND THE, YOU KNOW, THOUGHTS AND THE SITUATIONS WITH ALL THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE WITHIN OUR TRAILER HOME PARKS.

AT THE SAME TIME, I APPRECIATE THE, UH, THE TRAILER PARKS THEMSELF.

AND AS WAS STATED BEFORE, IMMEDIATELY AFTER, UH, THIS WAS, UH, FIRST BROUGHT, BROUGHT IN, AND, AND WE PASSED THE RESOLUTION BACK AT THAT POINT, THE, UH, THEY IMMEDIATELY WENT TO WORK AND, AND, UH, BASICALLY ALMOST EXACTLY WHAT WE WERE SEEING HERE WAS WHAT THEY SHOWED ME BEGINNING OF LAST YEAR.

IT WAS OVER A YEAR AGO.

BUT THE STAFF WORKED WITH THEM ON REFINEMENTS, LISTENED TO THE, LISTENED TO THE, UH, UH, THE COMMUNITY AND, UH, UH, DID SOME REFINEMENTS WITHIN IT.

AND TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE'S, EVERYONE'S NEEDS WERE ADDRESSED.

AND SO WE APPRECIATE WHEN BOTH SIDES CAN COME TOGETHER AND CAN WORK ON SOMETHING.

IT'S EASY TO, YOU KNOW, GET PEOPLE AT EACH OTHER AND, BUT IT'S MUCH MORE EXCITING WHEN YOU SEE PEOPLE COMING TOGETHER AND TO COME TO A GOOD, GOOD SOLUTION FOR ALL SIDES SO THAT NEITHER SIDE GETS, GETS, UH, HURT OR DAMAGED ON THESE THINGS.

SO, UH, WITH THAT, DO YOU NO OTHER DISCUSSION.

WE DO HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, AND PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION PASSES.

THERE WE GO.

PLEASE VOTE.

THERE WE GO.

OKAY.

WE ONLY HAVE A FEW MORE MOMENTS AND THE MEETING WILL BE OVER.

WE'RE JUST ABOUT RIGHT AT THE VERY END.

AND, UH, YES.

SO WITH THAT, ANY OTHER STAFF REPORTS? UM, MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL,

[13. CITY MANAGER’S REPORT]

BEN MARTINEZ, CITY MANAGER.

JUST TO SAY THAT, UH, I HAVE A RECRUITMENT, UM, UPDATE ON RECRUITMENTS AND I WILL SHARE THAT WITH YOU VIA EMAIL, UH, TOMORROW.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

UH, AFTER THAT, THEN WE GO TO OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS

[14. ELECTED OFFICIALS REPORT]

REPORT.

I'LL START DOWN HERE ON MY LEFT.

JUST, UH, ONE ANNOUNCEMENT IN CASE YOU ALL, UH, OUR COMMUNITY HASN'T HEARD, UM, HILTON BAYFRONT WORKERS, UM, ARE ON STRIKE AND THEY'RE PART OF A HOTEL UNION CALLED, UH, UH, UNITE HERE, LOCAL 30.

UH, THESE ARE ACTIONS TAKING PLACE NATIONALLY, UM, BUT ULTIMATELY THEY ARE ADVOCATING FOR BETTER WAGES, BENEFITS, UM, AND WORKING CONDITIONS, WHICH ARE IN PAR, UM, THE MISSION OF A PUBLIC ENTITY, UH, SUCH AS THE PORT OF SAN DIEGO, WHICH IS THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY WHERE HILTON IS AT.

SO I REALLY WANNA COMMEND, UM, EVERYBODY'S EFFORT AND SUPPORTING THE WORKERS SO FAR.

AND IF YOU HAVEN'T, PLEASE MAKE IT OUT TO THE PICKET LINE.

THEY'RE THERE FROM FOUR IN THE MORNING TO MIDNIGHT EVERY SINGLE

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DAY, UH, STRIKING TO FIGHT FOR BETTER WAGES AND BETTER WORKING CONDITIONS AND A BETTER LIFE.

ALRIGHT, NEXT, NOTHING TO REPORT.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I'M, GO AHEAD NOW HERE.

THANK YOU.

UH, I DO HAVE, UH, A SHOUT OUT.

IT TODAY IS NATIONAL VOTER REGISTRATION DAY, AND, UH, WE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE CELEBRATE THE POWER OF CIVIC PARTICIPATION AND ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO MAKE THEIR VOICES HEARD BY REGISTERING TO VOTE.

YOUR VOTE REALLY DOES COUNT.

UH, IT IS A VITAL OPPORTUNITY TO ENSURE THAT ALL ELIGIBLE CITIZENS CAN CONTRIBUTE TO THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS AND HAVE A SAY IN SHAPING THEIR COMMUNITY AND THEIR COUNTRY.

IF YOU HAVEN'T REGISTERED TO VOTE, TODAY IS A PERFECT DATA REGISTER.

IT IS NATIONAL VOTER REGISTRATION DAY.

AND REAL QUICK, I'LL JUST GIVE YOU SOME REGISTRATION DEADLINES.

YOU CAN REGISTER TO VOTE IN PERSON.

UM, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN FILL OUT ONE OF THOSE REGISTRATION CARDS.

I THINK THE DEADLINE, UH, WOULD BE OCTOBER 7TH, UM, BY MAIL, OR YOU CAN VOTE BY, UH, OR YOU CAN, UM, REGISTER BY MAIL OR ONLINE, UH, THE VOTING DEADLINES.

I'M NOT SURE.

IF YOU AREN'T AWARE, PROBABLY YOU SHOULD.

EVERYBODY'S AWARE.

UH, NOVEMBER 5TH IS OUR ELECTION DAY.

AND, UM, WHEN YOU DO GO TO VOTE, UM, YOU CAN VOTE EITHER IN PERSON OR YOU CAN VOTE BY MAIL.

UH, YOU WILL BE RECEIVING YOUR, UH, VOTER BALLOT BY MAIL.

SO I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO REGISTER TO VOTE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UM, SD VOTE GO V REGISTERED TO VOTE.

AND THANK YOU .

YES.

UM, UM, AND ALSO I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE DIRECTORS FOR YOUR HELP TO OUR CITY MANAGER.

UM, THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE AND, UH, WITHOUT YOUR HELP, YOU KNOW, I'M OUR CITY MANAGERS, NOBODY, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH, DIRECTORS FOR YOUR HELP.

TO OUR CITY MANAGER TO OUR CITY ATTORNEY, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

OKAY.

UH, JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK ITEMS. UH, THE LAST TWO, UH, COUPLE WEEKS, WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF WHAT I CONSIDER VERY EXCITING, UH, EVENTS HERE IN NATIONAL CITY.

UM, SATURDAY BEFORE LAST, WE HAD THE END OF SUMMER, UH, LOW RIDER ART SHOW ON WHEELS.

AND, UH, I DIDN'T YOU NOTICE, I DIDN'T CALL IT A LOW RIDER CAR SHOW, UH, BECAUSE IT'S MUCH MORE THAN THAT.

AND, UH, WE RAN OUTTA ROOM IN KIMBALL PARK, AND SO WE HAD, THEY HAD TO START BRINGING CARS UP, UP THE, UH, UH, THE PARKING AREA UP HERE TOWARD, TOWARDS CITY HALL.

SO IT, UH, WE HAD APPROXIMATELY 500 CARS LINE, UH, FILLING THAT, UH, PLACE.

AND JUST A FANTASTIC DAY.

AND IT WAS HOT AS ALL GET OUT YET.

WE HAD A GREAT CROWD OUT THERE.

AND, UH, BUT AS A, AN AWESOME DISPLAY.

UH, ROB AND ROBERT, THE TWO GUYS WHO ORGANIZED THAT, DID A, DID A JUST A REALLY A FANTASTIC JOB ONCE AGAIN THIS YEAR.

AND EVEN AS, UH, THE, UH, THE X-MEN WAS THERE AND HE WAS TELLING ME, HE SAYS, EVERYONE HAS LEARNED THAT THAT IS THE PLACE TO GO AT THE END OF SUMMER FOR A CAR SHOW.

EVERYONE, EVERYONE HIMSELF, UH, SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA REALIZES THIS IS IT.

SO, UM, THAT'S, UH, A GREAT JOB ON THAT.

THEN THIS LAST WEEKEND, LAST SATURDAY, WE HAD THE, UH, OLD TOWN NATIONAL CITY REUNION.

AND ONCE AGAIN, STREET CLOSED, UH, PEOPLE WERE JUST JAMMED OUT THERE, ALL OVER REMINISCING, REALIZING SOMEHOW WE'RE ALL RELATED TO EACH OTHER HERE IN NATIONAL CITY, KNOWING NOBODY CAN GET AWAY FROM THAT.

AND, UH, JUST HAVING A GREAT TIME AND, UH, ONCE AGAIN, A VERY POSITIVE, VERY, UH, VERY UPLIFTING, UH, EVENT.

SO TWO OF THOSE THAT WE'VE HAD HERE IN THE, UH, JUST WITHIN THE LAST WEEK AND A HALF.

WITH THAT, WE'LL TURN IT

[15. CITY ATTORNEY REPORT]

OVER TO CITY ATTORNEY'S REPORT.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UH, WE HAD, UH, FOUR AGENDA ITEMS FOR CLOSED SESSION AND THERE ARE NO REPORTABLE ITEMS. OKAY.

AND THAT'S THE WAY IT SHOULD BE ON THIS CASE, RIGHT? YES.

OKAY.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE KNOW THAT WITH THAT, UH, WE ARE ADJOURNED TO THE NEXT REGULAR, UH, COUNCIL MEETING, WHICH WILL BE ON OCTOBER THE FIRST.

THANK YOU.