* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. IT'S FINE BECAUSE [00:00:01] WE COULD JUST MOVE ON. OKAY. THEN WE'LL ASSUME THAT THAT'S NOT A PERSON. YEAH. OKAY. . OKAY. SO, SORRY A LITTLE [Traffic Safety Committee on July 8, 2026.] BIT LATE. WE'RE GOING TO CONVENE AT TWO 15. OUR, UH, REGULAR TRAFFIC SAFETY, UH, COMMITTEE, UH, MEETING FOR, UH, FOR JULY. EVERYONE IS SIGNED IN, RIGHT? YES. MM-HMM . OKAY. SO CALLING THE MEETING TO ORDER. CAN WE ALL STAND FOR THE FLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, PLEASE? I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE, UNITED STATE AMERICA, AND TO REPUBLIC ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE CROW. THANK YOU. OKAY. I'M, UH, CYNTHIA QUINONES, UH, TRAFFIC SAFETY CHAIR, RO TRAFFIC SAFETY, LINCOLN HENDERSON. CARL STATE LOPEZ. STATE OF NATIONAL CITY. RODRIGUEZ? CITY OF NATIONAL CITY. EVELYN LOREN CITY, NATIONAL CITY. AND CINDY, WHAT'S YOUR LAST NAME? ONLINE? I'M WITH, OR I'M CINDY CASTLEMAN. I'M WITH ORATION. THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY, SO FIRST AGENDA ITEM IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES, UH, FOR OUR MAY MEETING. HAS EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW COMMISSIONERS CHANCE TO REVIEW THE MEETING MINUTES? ANY, ANY CHANGES, ANY DISCUSS? OKAY. I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE MAY MEETING. MINUTES SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. MOTION CARRIED. UNANIMOUS. OKAY. ON, WE HAVE NO GENERAL SPEAKERS, UH, FOR TODAY. SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO, UM, UH, OLD BUSINESS. THERE ARE A COUPLE ITEMS, BUT WE'RE GONNA SAVE THOSE TO THE, TO THE END FOR COMMITTEE MEMBER COMMENTS. ONE OF THEM I KNOW FROM MY PERSPECTIVE IS THE, UH, TALK ABOUT PARKING, UH, WHAT WE CAN DO TO HELP, UH, WITH PERMIT SITUATIONS IN THE FUTURE. UH, BUT THAT'LL COME UP UNDER, UH, COMMITTEE MEMBER COMMENTS. AND THEN KELLY HAD ONE ALSO THAT I'M NOT RE OH, IT WAS ABOUT A STOP SIGN OR SOMETHING IN DIVISION THREE. YEAH, BUT I, SO SHE'S NOT HERE. WE'LL WAIT UNTIL NEXT. MM-HMM . THAT'LL BE DEFERRED UNTIL NEXT MEETING. ANY OTHER OLD BUSINESS THAT WE FORGOT ABOUT FROM LAST MEETING? NO. OKAY. SO NEW BUSINESS IS ITEM NUMBER 2026 DASH ZERO EIGHT. THIS IS THE REQUEST FOR INSTALLATION OF RED CURB, UM, UM, A NO PARKING ZONE, UH, ON 2000 MCKINLEY AVENUE TO IMPROVE VISIBILITY, ENHANCE VISIBILITY FOR TRUCKS ENTERING AND EXITING THE DRIVEWAY ON CLEVELAND AVENUE. YOU GUYS WANNA DO THE STAFF REPORT, PLEASE? OKAY. SO IS, UH, LISA ORTIZ, WHICH IS A SET FOR THE CORPORATION WHO OWNED THIS THERE. UM, REACH OUT TO ENGINEERING BECAUSE THEY'RE DUE TO THE NEW BANK WAY, RIGHT? THE MOBILITY PROJECT DOWN THERE. YEP. SO THEN YOU BACK, UH, BIKE RATE, ANGLE PARKING ON THIS SIDE, YOU SEE? CORRECT. THE WILL IMPACT THEIR, YOU KNOW, THEIR TRUCKS WHEN THEY EVEN ENTER EXIT THE, THE CURRENT, UH, ENTRY POINT. SO WE REQUESTED A RED CURB EXTENSION ON THIS SIDE OF THE, THIS DRIVEWAY. OKAY. AND WE NEXT, UH, RED CURB DRIVEWAY, SO WE CAN START USING THIS DRIVEWAY INSTEAD. OH, THAT MAKES, WHICH ALLOW, WHICH ALLOW AN APARTMENT OVER HERE TO BE, UM, NOT HAVE AN IMPACT. IMPACT, YEAH. NO, NO IMPACT YET. UH, SO THEY'RE , LIKE I SAID, AN EXTENSION OF THE SYSTEM. RED CURB, ANOTHER 14 FEET TO MAKE THE TOTAL, UH, UM, 34 ON 20 AND AT 33 FEET SOUTH OF THE DRIVEWAY. AND THAT THREE FEET ON THE SEVEN, UM, DRIVEWAY, UH, THE NET LOSS FOR, FOR, UH, PARKING SPOTS IN THE LOST OR PARKING [00:05:01] SPOTS ARE THREE. ONE PARKING SPOT HERE AND ONE PARKING SPOT HERE. OKAY. AND THE STAFF RECOMMENDS THE INSTALLATION OF THIS WAY CURB. HOW WAS THE PARKING IN THAT AREA? UH, I'VE BEEN DOWN THERE. I HAVEN'T REALLY SEEN TOO MANY CARS PARKED THERE. NO. AND I PASSED THERE DAY THIS MORNING AND THERE WAS, UM, BIG TRUCK PARKWAY THERE AND NOT, NOT ALLOWED MANY CARS ARE HERE, SO I GUESS IT DEPENDS ON TIME. TIME, WHICH DAY AND YEAH. UH, YEAH. BUT WE DID THE SIDE VISIT TO TALK TO THE OWNERS, DON DOOR, ANY CARS PARKED THERE. OKAY. OKAY. ANY, UH, NO ONE HERE TO SPEAK. UM, LET'S SEE. SO ANY, UH, COMMISSIONER PER, I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. SO IS THIS, THIS IS A RESIDE, NOT A RESIDENTIAL AREA? NO. NO. SO WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT LIKE PEOPLE STRUGGLING TO PARK AND STUFF? NO, THEY'RE BUSINESSES AND INDUSTRIAL. WELL, OR BACK SOUTH. THERE'S A COUPLE OF HASSLE HERE. YOU PLENTY ON THE CART. AND I'M ASSUMING THEIR ISSUE ONLY IT IS DURING BUSINESS HOURS, I WOULD PRESUME. YEAH. AND BECAUSE I THINK ONE OF THE OPTIONS WAS TO REMOVE SOME OF THE PARKING SPOTS HERE FOR EASIER ACCESS WITH TRUCKS. AND THE ORDER SAID NO, I'M GONNA KEEP IT PARKING HERE. SO IF WE CAN FACILITATE THE EXIT AND ENTRY OUR TRUCKS ON THIS SIDE OF THE STREET BETTER, I THINK THAT'LL BE BETTER FOR THE BIKE TOO, WHEN THE BIKE BIKE TRACK TRAFFIC THAT'S GOING IN AND SO YEAH, THROUGH THAT ROUTE TOO. SO YEAH, GUESS I DON'T SEE A PROBLEM WITH IT. THE ONLY THING IS THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT THE TRUCKS WOULD HAVE BETTER VISIBILITY IF THIS HAPPENS, BUT DON'T THE TRUCKS GET HIGHER? UH, NOT SO MUCH VISIBILITY, BUT, UH, TO BE ABLE TO CLEAR OR TO TURN, TO TURN ON NEXT EDGE, THEY NEED THE EXTRA SPACE AS WE ALSO ON THIS SIDE PART TOO CLOSE THE . YEAH. OKAY. THOSE ARE MY ONLY QUESTIONS. ANYBODY ELSE QUESTIONS? NO. OKAY. I MOVE TO ACCEPT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. THANK YOU. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. MOTION CARRIES. OKAY. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM 2026 DASH ZERO NINE. THIS IS THE REQUEST FOR INSTALLATION OF A BLUE CURB DISABLED PERSON'S PARKING SPOT, A SPACE WITH SIGNAGE IN FRONT OF THE RESIDENCE AT 7 0 4 SALAD STREET. I'M SORRY. OKAY. IT'S A LOT. UM, UH, BY MS. MARIA AL, WHO IS NOT HERE. NO, SHE HERE. OKAY. UH, SO, UH, STAFF REPORT. UH, SO MS. CAME IN TO, UM, HERE IN THE HIGHER ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT TO REQUEST A, UH, BLUE CURRENT PROPERTY. UM, SHE HAS, SHE HAS THREE, UH, P OR RESIDENTS LIVING IN HER HOUSE WITH LIQUOR HANDICAP. WOW. YES. SO THIS WOULD BE HER JUST REQUEST FOR HER HUSBAND, RONALDO AND HER PARENTS SIT OUT IN MA SANTOS, WHICH ALL LIVE IN THE HOUSE. UM, SO THAT, UM, LIKE A, THE REPORT SAYS THE HOUSE IS LOCATED IN SOLID STREET. SHE DOES HAVE MAYBE GARAGE AND OFFICER PARKING. HOWEVER, UH, WE MEASURED THE SPACE AND FOR HER TO ENTER THE GARAGE TO NEEDS THIS PATH OF TRAVEL. IF THERE'S A CAR, A VEHICLE PARK HERE. SO THAT WILL BE ONE WEAKER OR ONE HANDICAP SPOT OFF. NOW THE SECOND ONE WILL BE HERE NOT HAVING ANY, ANY OTHER VEHICLES BLOCKED THIS ENTRY. SO IF FOR THE THIRD VEHICLE WITH THE, UH, PLACARD, UH, THEY WILL HAVE TO PARK OUTSIDE STREET. [00:10:01] OKAY. SHE SAID, UH, UM, HER HUSBAND, WHICH MEANS HAS A, THE HANDICAP PARTNER WORKS, UH, UH, FOR STATE. AND WHEN HE GETS HOME AT NIGHTTIME, THERE'S NO SPOTS. NO SPOTS, SPOTS KNOW THEY'RE HER DIRECTLY. ALWAYS THEIR NEIGHBORS HAVE MULTIPLE VEHICLES THAT PART THE HOUSE. UM, SO THERE ARE NO EXISTING PARKING SPACES PROVIDED THE MEDIA VICINITY CHECK. AND THERE'S NOT LOW OR OKAY. HERE AND THE CLOSE. YEAH, IT'S PRETTY FAR. YEAH. AND THIS, LIKE I SAID, WE UM, GOT THE AND SHE DOES MEET, SHE MEETS THE FIRST ONE. THEY MEET UHHUH . SO ALL THREE HAVE A, THE RIGHT BLACKFORD CIVIL VERSUS BLACKFORD SUSPECT. UM, THE CIVIL PARKING INCIDENT WAS IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE. SHE ALSO MET AND THERE RESIDENTS MUST NOT HAVE USED OFF STREET PARKING AVAILABLE OR AN OFF STREET, UM, PARKING SPACE AVAILABLE THAT WE WENT TO, TO THE PARKING. SO LIKE I SAID, UM, SHE DOES HAVE A GARAGE, BUT IT'S USED BY ONE OF CARS. THAT'S, SO IT'S THREE VEHICLES WITH THE PLACARD. ONE PARKS IN THE DRIVEWAY, ONE PARKS IN PARKS IN THE GARAGE. SO ONE ON THE STREET. IT'S NOT THE STREET. OKAY. SO THEREFORE, YES. CAN WE GO BACK TO THE PICTURE OF THE HOUSE? OF THE, THE AREA? SO IT'S THREE VEHICLES TOTAL. UH, PLUS I VENTURA, SHE HAS THAT ON HER HAND. SORRY. YEAH. VEHICLES TOTAL AT LEAST THREE VEHICLES WITH UH, FIVE PARTS. AND SHE HAS A GARAGE. YES. YEAH. IT, SHE SOMEBODY THERE AND THEY, ONE NEEDS THE, THE VEHICLE THAT'S PARKED IN THE GARAGE, YOU VEHICLE ABLE TO SUITE ACCESS AND WE HAVE TO CONSIDER THE PATH FOR THE GARAGE NOT TO BE BLOCKED. HOW MUCH, UH, VEHICLE PARKING HAVE WE HAVE YOU NOTED IN THE AREA? IS IT EVERYTHING? OBVIOUSLY IF THEY'RE FINDING I, UH, NO PARKING AT NIGHT. IT MUST BE PRETTY HEAVY USAGE NIGHT. WE'VE BEEN THERE A COUPLE TIMES DURING THE DAY AND IT'S NOT THAT IMPACTED. YEAH. IT'S LIKE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE DAYTIME, EVERYBODY'S WORKING, BUT AT NIGHT IT'S A NIGHTMARE. YEAH. BUT, SO THEY'RE HAVING TROUBLE AT NIGHT. WE KNOW THAT IT'S FULLY SPARKING. YES. MM-HMM . BUT NO OTHER BLUE CURBS IN THE GYM OF VICINITY IS TOO FAR AWAY. SO, UM, STAFF RECOMMENDED INSTALLATION OF DIFFER AND THE STANDARD FOURS FOR STREET. OKAY. YOU THINKING MAYBE WITH THE GARAGE ON THE DRIVEWAY, THAT GONNA BE ABLE TO, IS THAT A TWO CAR GARAGE? NO, IT'S, UH, BECAUSE OF THE SITES, CAN WE PULL IT UP ON GOOGLE EARTH AND LOOK AT THE YEAH. OH, THERE, YEAH, WE CAN SEE THAT BETTER THERE. YEAH. IT'S ONE GARAGE. ONE. THAT WAS MY ONLY CONCERN. IT IS JUST THAT, YOU KNOW, PARKING IN NATIONAL CITY IS GETTING CRAZY, BUT YEAH. AND YOU GUYS MENTIONED THAT IT, IT'S NOT TOO SATURATED THERE. SO THEN I'M LIKE, OKAY, WELL NOT A BIG DEAL. GUESS, BUT IS THERE THREE VEHICLES IN THE DRIVEWAY? THAT PICTURE, THERE'S TWO, THIS, THIS TO THE LEFT OF THE WHITE CAR. IS THERE A CAR TO THE LEFT OF THE WHITE CAR? NO. NO. IT'S A PLAN. THIS IS ALL, THIS IS FROM STEVE . YEAH. AS A RESIDENT, [00:15:01] I GUESS MY CONCERN IS PARKING. RIGHT? RIGHT. I THINK, THINK ALL ARE ON THE SAME PAGE. SO, BUT GIVEN THE FACT THAT THERE IS NO BLUE CURVE IN THAT VICINITY, YOU MENTIONED. OKAY. AND IT'S NOT TOO SATURATED, I GUESS I JUST SEE LIKE YOU COULD FIT THREE VEHICLES IN YOUR DRIVEWAY AND THEN PLUS ONE IN YOUR GARAGE AND THEN YOU WANT A BLUE OR ALSO OKAY. ALRIGHT. YEAH. TO YOU GUYS, I GUESS. WHAT DO YOU THINK? I DON'T REALLY SEE A NEGATIVE TOWARDS IT BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST FOR THEM. LIKE ANYBODY CAN USE IT. THAT HAS ONE. AND IN MY EXPERIENCE, MY FRIEND LIVES IN THAT AREA AROUND THE CORNER, THAT STREET DOES FILL UP WITH PARKING. SO IF YOU NEED PARKING ON THIS STREET, YOU HAVE TO GO LIKE AROUND THE CORNER AND PARK ON A HILL BECAUSE AT NIGHT TIME IT DOES THREEFOLD. WELL, ON A HILL WOULD BE PRETTY CHALLENGING FOR ANY DISABLED PERSON. YEAH. YEAH. IF YOU SHOW LIKE THE AND BEHIND, LIKE, IT'S KIND OF TRICKY BECAUSE IT'S RIGHT BY LIKE A VERY MAIN STREET WITH NO PARKING BY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. SO YEAH. AND THEN IF YOU GO ON THE OTHER SIDE, IT'S LIKE A HILL. IS THAT A SCHOOL? YEAH, IT'S IRA SISON. I, SO LIKE YOU'LL HAVE TO GO UP ON SHELL RIGHT THERE BY THE BLUEPORT. THAT'S . YEAH. AND LIKE L AND IT'S RED CURVE ON THAT SIDE FOR THE SCHOOL. YES. YEAH. SO YOU HAVE TO PARK IN THAT HILL. ANY DISCUSSION FOR I THINK IT'D BE ALL RIGHT. DOES ANYONE CAN USE IT? YEAH. WE, I MEAN THERE IS NO HANDICAP CURBS THERE AND IT'S NOT OVERLY SATURATED. I DON'T, I DIDN'T SEE ANY APARTMENTS CLOSE BY YET. MAYBE A YEAR OR TWO, BUT, UM, , A DU, YOU KNOW, FIVE STORY A D BUT YEAH, BUT I, OKAY. I MAKE A, A MOTION TO ACCEPT STAFF RECOMMENDATION. I'LL SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. MOTION CARRIED. OKAY. FUTURE ITEMS? NONE. UH, STAFFER FULL. ANY ANYTHING NEW ON FROM YOU GUYS FOR STAFF REPORTS? UH, I JUST NEED TO SEND YOU ALL THE APPROVED ITEMS FOR 2025. OH YES. SO WE CAN GET OH YEAH, WE HAVE, UH, NEXT IN AUGUST, AUGUST 18, I BELIEVE. OR THE, WE'RE ON THE, WE'RE ON THE CITY COUNCIL AGENDA FOR OUR ANNUAL REPORT. UH, SO YEAH, I CAN, YEAH, IF, YEAH, WE CAN MAYBE JUST PULL UP THE SAME SLIDES THAT WE USED LAST YEAR AND UPDATE THE, THE, THE NUMBERS. I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T, MAYBE SOMETHING DIFFERENT 'CAUSE I KNOW SOMETHING DIFFERENT. OKAY. ALSO, I WANTED TO CHECK WITH YOU IF YOU COULD SEND ME MAYBE LIKE A COUPLE OF DATES SO WE COULD DO A DRIVE RUN AT THE END OF THE MONTH. I WOULD LOVE THAT. YEAH. OKAY. THAT WAY WE CAN JUST SEE, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE A QUICK LITTLE YEAH, I'M, I'M GONE UNTIL THE 20 I LEAVE TOMORROW AND I'M GONE UNTIL THE 27TH. OKAY. SO ANYTIME THAT WEEK. THAT LAST, OKAY. THAT LAST WEEK. THAT LAST WEEK. OKAY. FIRST WEEK IN AUGUST. ANY JUST SCHEDULE ME WHENEVER IS GOOD FOR YOU GUYS. OKAY. I'LL SEND YOU ANY, I'LL CHECK WITH THE GUYS. UM, SO WE COULD JUST HAVE A QUICK LITTLE I WOULD LOVE THAT. OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. SO THAT WOULD BE, I'M SORRY, WHAT WERE THE DATES AGAIN? END? I'M BACK THE 27TH, THE, WHICH IS THE MONDAY. OKAY. OKAY. SO ANYTIME THAT WEEK. OKAY. ANYTIME THE FOLLOWING WEEK. OKAY. I'M PRETTY WIDE OPEN. OKAY. SOUNDS GOOD. AND THEN THE, THE COUNCIL MEETING IS AUGUST 18TH? AUGUST 18TH. AUGUST 18TH. OKAY. SO I GUESS TECHNICALLY WE STILL HAVE THE TRAFFIC SAFETY MEETING IN AUGUST. MM-HMM . TO MAYBE OH YEAH. TO HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. TAKE ANY, YEAH, JUST LIKE FINAL ADJUSTMENTS. GET, GET APPROVAL FROM MM-HMM . THE TEAM HERE. YEAH. MM-HMM . IN CASE. OKAY. THAT'LL BE GOOD. YEAH, BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S PROBABLY JUST A FEW. SO IT'S JUST LIKE, REMEMBER I THINK IT'S UNDER FIVE MINUTES. YEAH, IT'S AROUND FIVE MINUTES. I'LL DOUBLE CHECK ON THAT AGAIN. THE PRESENTATION PART? YEAH. I THINK IT'S FIVE TO SEVEN MINUTES. FIVE TO SEVEN MINUTES PER, YEAH, I THINK IT'S WHAT THE THING IS. OKAY. UM, WE HAD A COUPLE PUBLIC HEARINGS THIS, THIS LAST YEAR, RIGHT. UH, WE HAD ONE OF THE MOBILITY, UM, THE EIGHTH, WAS IT EIGHTH STREET? WE HAD A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE EIGHTH STREET MOBILITY PROJECT OR SOMETHING. UH, THIS YEAR. STEVE? YEAH, I THINK IT WAS THIS AND YEAH, [00:20:02] I'M PRETTY SURE, I THINK IT WAS, WELL NOT IN 2026, BUT IT WAS 2020. BUT IN THE KIND OF, I THINK IT WAS OCTOBER MAYBE OF 2025 ON THAT AGENDA. I THINK SOMEWHERE IN THAT TIMEFRAME WE HAD A, WE HAD A HEARING. OKAY. SO WE SHOULD MENTION THAT. MM-HMM . I THINK IT WAS THE ONE THEY JUST APPROVED AT CITY COUNCIL. IT WAS ON THE, UM, IT WAS ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR, UH, AT THE LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING. OKAY. SO, BUT YEAH, THERE, THAT'S THE ONLY ONE I'M REMEMBERING. DO YOU GUYS REMEMBER ANY OTHER MOBILITY? ANY OTHER PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT WE HAVE? NO. UM, WHEN YOU SAY PUBLIC HEARING, WAS IT LIKE, LIKE THE LAST ONE WE HAD DOWNSTAIRS? IS THAT WHAT YOU MEAN BY PUBLIC HEARING? TWO MONTHS AGO? WAS THAT A PUBLIC HEARING TWO MONTHS AGO? I DON'T REMEMBER. SO MAYBE, ARE YOU NO, THOSE WERE PARKING PERMITS. OUR LAST MEETING WAS THE WAIT. OH YEAH, THERE'S IN OUR CONFERENCE ROOM. OH, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO. THAT'S DIFFERENT. YEAH. NO. MM-HMM . SO YOU, YOU MAYBE ARE REFERRING TO THE, THE TIMES THAT WE HAD LIKE OPEN HOUSE KIND OF, OR I FORGOT PUBLIC HEARING AT COUNCIL. THAT'S THINK OVERHEAR COUNCIL CHAMBERS WE HAD RIGHT. THAT'S PRESENTED TO PROJECTS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YEAH, EXACTLY. EXACTLY. MM-HMM . YEAH. JUST SO WE CAN MENTION THOSE. 'CAUSE THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR PUBLIC OUTREACH. YEAH. UH, IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO KNOW THAT THOSE WERE REVIEWED PUBLICLY. MM-HMM . OKAY. YEAH. THAT, THAT'LL SHOW UP. I STARTED LOOKING AT THE LIST OF EVERYTHING THAT WE WORKED ON LAST YEAR AND THAT I REMEMBER THERE WAS TWO, LIKE BACK TO BACK MEETINGS THAT WE HAD OVER HERE. MM-HMM . I THINK SO BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, I WANNA SAY INVITATION TO THE PUBLIC AND YEP. UHHUH PROJECTS. STEVE, WAS IT, UH, YEAH. YEAH. PRESENTING. YEAH. ONE OF THEM, UH, THE ONE THAT WE HAD LAST FALL WAS THEM BRINGING IN THE, UM, THE CONSULTANTS TO SURVEY THE PUBLIC, GET PUBLIC INPUT ABOUT HOW TO PRIORITIZE THE DIFFERENT, UH, MOBILITY PROJECTS. THAT WAS THE ONE FROM LAST YEAR. OKAY. I KNOW IT WAS BEFORE CHRISTMAS BECAUSE THEY, UH, DID SOME OUTREACH AT, UH, THE KIMBALL PARK CHRISTMAS EVENT. UH, THE CONSULTANTS WERE THERE GATHERING PUBLIC INPUT OR NOT. SO THAT'S THAT ONE. AND THEN THE, THE, THE OTHER ONE WOULD BE THE ONES THAT WE HAD AT THE, UH, YEAH, NEXT DOOR. NEXT DOOR. YEAH. UHHUH. . YEAH. SO WE SHOULD IDENTIFY THOSE. SO FOR THOSE, DO YOU JUST WANT LIKE THE MENTION LIKE THE TITLE? YEP. YEP. YOU DON'T NEED LIKE, ANY OTHER DOCUMENTATION? NOPE. OKAY. NOPE. WE JUST WANNA MENTION THAT WE HAVE THOSE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND WE'D LIKE TO THANK YOU GUYS EVERY CHANCE WE GET FOR ALL THE GRANTS AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU PULL IN FOR ALLOWING THOSE PROJECTS. IT'S GREAT. ANYTHING ELSE UNDER STAFF REPORTS? WE DID SKIP ONE OF THE ITEMS. UM, DID WE? YEAH, ON THE TOP IT WAS JUST FOR APPROVAL OF EXCUSE. OH, OKAY. EXCUSE ABSENCES. YOU, YOU JUST, IT HAS TO BE SOMETHING LIKE SUPER BRIEF, NOT THE GOING TO DETAIL. SO LIKE WHY SHE MEETING AND THEN JUST TO REMEMBER, WE JUST HAVE TO, I HAVE TO LOG IN. OKAY. UM, YEAH. SO, UH, YVONNE DID MISS LAST MONTH'S MEETING, WHICH IS IN MAY 13TH, 2020. SO THEN YOU GUYS, GUYS JUST APPROVE HER, YOU KNOW, DISAPPROVE. OKAY. HER ABSENCE. MM-HMM . SO THE MEETING, YOUR, YOUR REASON FOR MI MISSING LAST MEETING WAS WORK. YOU WERE AT WORK, A WORK CONFLICT. MM-HMM . AND THERE WAS ADVANCED NOTICE, RIGHT? UH, YES. YES. OKAY. DO WHAT YOU DID. MM-HMM. APPROVED. I VOTE TO APPROVE, UH, THE ABSENCE. YES. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. I DIDN'T KNOW WE HAD TO APPROVE. TAKE CARE OF . WHEN? FROM OUR LAST, FROM OUR, FROM OUR LAST YEAR, FROM THE, THE, WHEN WE PUT IN THE BYLAWS LAST YEAR, IT CHANGED IT. YEAH. BEFORE THAT WE DIDN'T REALLY WORRY ABOUT IT, BUT WITH OUR NEW BYLAWS, WE HAVE TO APPROVE. YEAH. SO WE'LL HAVE TO DO THAT NEXT TIME FOR KELLY? MM-HMM . FOR KELLY. YEAH. IS THAT WHY LAST MONTH'S MEETING WAS CANCELED BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE OR WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY AGENDA ITEMS? I THINK THERE WAS, YEAH. YEAH. WE DID NOT HAVE AGENDA ITEMS. CORRECT? YEAH. I'M TRYING TO THINK. I'M LIKE, UH, YEAH. WHAT WAS THAT? MM-HMM . I HAD ONE ITEM FOR, UH, LUCAS [00:25:02] THAT I'D EMAILED ABOUT. I'D GOTTEN AND ONE OF OUR OTHER CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS I'VE GOTTEN PULLED ASIDE BY, UH, UH, WHAT'S HIS NAME? ENRIQUE SANCHEZ. ADA. 6 32 C AVENUE. DO YOU GUYS KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT A HANDICAP PARKING? UH, YEAH. HIS REQUEST IS IN OUR LIST TO REVIEW. IT JUST HASN'T COME UP YET. OKAY. LIKE WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING IN CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER, SO OKAY. WE'RE KIND OF BEHIND A BIT, BUT , YEAH. HIS HIS IS ON THE LIST. OKAY. SO HE HE DOESN'T OWE YOU GUYS ANYTHING OR? UH, I DON'T THINK SO. I HAD A NOTE OR I THINK I NEEDED EITHER THE APPLICATION OR LIKE A COPY OF HIS, LIKE THE RECEIPT. THE PLACARD RECEIPT. OKAY. I THINK WE HAVE THAT ALREADY. OKAY. BUT I'LL CHECK AND IF WE'RE MISSING ANYTHING, I'LL REACH OUT TO HIM. DO WE HAVE AN IDEA OF HOW LONG IT'S TAKING TO GET THROUGH? UH, JUST ON KIND OF A GENERAL BALLPARK? YEAH. NO, LAST I CHECKED. I WANNA SAY MAYBE LIKE SIX MONTHS. YEAH. GOTTA GET SOMETHING. WHOA, . THAT'S ALL GOOD. . ALRIGHT. THANKS GUYS. YEAH. UH, LAST I CHECKED, BUT I THINK WE WERE LIKE, I WANNA SAY SIX MONTHS BEHIND BECAUSE THIS THE ONE THAT WE JUST APPROVED, UM, RIGHT NOW. YES. SHE HAD SUBMITTED LIKE ALMOST IN DECEMBER, NOVEMBER, SO. OKAY. YEAH. SO IT'S ABOUT A SIX MONTH PROCESS. BASIC WEEK. YEAH. YEAH. BEFORE THEY CAN, YEAH. SO PEOPLE, STAFF, PEOPLE HAVE BEEN COMING IN RIGHT NOW, LIKE SUBMITTING THIS WEEK AND LAST WEEK I'VE BEEN KIND OF MORNING, LIKE IT'S, IT'S A SEVERAL MONTH PROCESS NORMALLY, BUT RIGHT NOW WE ARE PRETTY, UH, BACK UP, SO. OKAY. YEAH. NO, THAT'S GOOD. JUST SO I CAN COMMUNICATE. 'CAUSE WHEN PEOPLE HERE, I'M FROM TRAFFIC, THEN THEY . YEAH. THEY ASK ME. YEAH. NO. SO I'LL CHECK ON THIS, BUT I THINK WE HAVE EVERYTHING. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF GETTING TO IT. VERY COOL. OKAY. SO YEAH, HE WENT IN, I THINK HE WENT IN LIKE THREE MONTHS AGO. SO MAYBE HE'S HALFWAY THERE. MAYBE. YEAH. I THINK, I DON'T REMEMBER. YEAH. AND THEN SHE'LL LEMME KNOW THE DELAY TOO WHEN, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE CANCELED MEETING, RIGHT? LIKE, YEAH. SO THAT, THAT DELAYS A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING ELSE. WE'LL GET THERE. . OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE STAFF WISE? NOTHING. OKAY. OH YEAH. JUST A FRIENDLY REMINDER. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS WHEN I SEND OUT THOSE EMAILS, JUST REPLY TO ME THAT REPLY TO ALL. 'CAUSE WE CAN'T HAVE LIKE YES. FOR BROUGHT ACT VIOLATION AND JUST OKAY. FRIENDLY REMINDER. THANK YOU. YEAH, YOU'RE WELCOME. I, I THINK YOU HAD MENTIONED AT THE BEGINNING ABOUT PARKING. YOU WANTED TO DISCUSS PARKING. YEAH. PARKING. SO ON C COMMITTEE MEMBER COMMENTS, YOU KNOW, AT THE LAST MEETING WHERE WE HAD THE APPROVAL OF THE TWO, UH, PERMIT PARKING SITUATIONS, WE HAD A LOT OF CONTENTIOUS. YOU, I THINK YOU GOT TO MISS THAT ONE. OH YEAH. I REMEMBER. , WHICH AREA? I THINK IT'S D AND I DON'T KNOW. 16TH. 18. I THINK IT'S 20TH AND E IT'S JUST NORTH OF NATIONAL CITY APARTMENTS. IT'S LIKE A, THERE'S A CUL-DE-SAC, CORRECT. A CUL I THINK. AND THEN THE OTHER PLACE NEXT TO THE NEW, UH, CLINIC. YEAH. F AVENUE. YEAH. SO THERE'S, I'VE DONE A LITTLE BIT OF, UH, RESEARCH SINCE THEN AND UM, IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVEN'T HAD TOO MUCH UPDATE TO ANY OF OUR PARKING REGULATIONS IN QUITE A WHILE. DO YOU, DO YOU GUYS REMEMBER ANY, LIKE, RECENT CHANGES? I DON'T. UM, ONE OF SOME OF THEM. YEAH. I LOOKED BACK AS FAR AS THE, UH, THE FOCUS GENERAL PLAN UPDATE, WHICH KIND OF WENT THROUGH THE, THE GRIND OF PUBLIC HEARINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT DURING THE PANDEMIC. AND THEN I THINK WAS APPROVED IN 2023 FOR A FOCUSED GENERAL PLAN THAT'S GONNA CHANGE DRAMATICALLY THE DENSITY ALONG ALL ALONG THE CORRIDOR AND THE FOURTH, FOURTH STREET, UH, CORRIDOR FOR SURE. AND THEN THERE ARE OTHER KIND OF DIFFERENT POCKETS IN THE CITY THAT ARE STARTING TO SEE A LOT MORE DEVELOPMENT. SO IT'S, UM, IF WE LOOK AT CITIES NEXT DOOR TO US, BOTH CHULA VISTA AND, UH, CITY OF SAN DIEGO, I KNOW BOTH ARE MUCH BIGGER CITIES, BUT THEY'VE, THEY'VE DONE SOME CHANGES TO, TO PARKING, UH, REGULATIONS. I THINK [00:30:01] FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, UH, PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO WERE DEFINITELY NOT HAPPY. YEAH. IF YOU FOLLOW NEXT DOOR OR YOU FOLLOW THE NEWS, THEY'RE LIKE COMPLAINTS RIGHT AND LEFT ABOUT, UH, THE MANAGEMENT OF PARKING IN THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO. THEIR METHODOLOGY SEEMS TO BE, UM, DOING A LOT MORE PARKING METERS, PAID PARKING. UM, AND THEN, UH, UH, KIND OF HOPING FOR THE BEST WHEN THEY APPROVE PROJECTS. THEY'RE MUCH LIKE WE ARE BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAVE TRANSIT STOPS. SO THE DEVELOPERS ARE NOT REQUIRED TO PROVIDE PARKING FOR THE NEW APARTMENT BUILDINGS BECAUSE THEY'RE WITHIN THE CALIFORNIA'S ALLOWED DISTANCE OF A TRANSIT STOP TO AVOID THE COST OF BUILDING PARKING. SO AS A RESULT, THERE ARE A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOODS, UNIVERSITY, MISSION HILLS, NORTH PARK, SOUTH PARK, ADAMS AVENUE, WHERE THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF NEW APARTMENTS GOING IN, NO PARKING, AND IT'S, UH, IT'S A MESS. SO I JUST, UM, THERE'S GRANT MONEY THAT I DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE WOULD QUALIFY OR NOT, BUT AS AN ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE COMMUNITY, WE MIGHT WANNA THINK ABOUT, UM, COMING UP WITH A PILOT PROJECT PILOT THAT TESTS NEW PARKING WAYS OF CONTROLLING PARKING HERE IN THE, UH, IN THE, IN THE, IN THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY. TAKING ADVANTAGE OF LESSONS LEARNED, GOOD OR BAD FROM CHULA VISTA AND, AND, UH, SAN DIEGO. AND THEN TESTING DIFFERENT WAYS OF CONTROLLING PARKING HERE. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT'S SOMETHING YOU GUYS HAVE TALKED ABOUT OR CONSIDERED OR ANYTHING BEFORE, BUT IT'S AS IF WE CAN GET GRANT MONEY TO DO IT. IT MIGHT BE, IT MIGHT BE WITH STUDENT. MAYBE FOLLOW UP UP WITH THEM, STEVE. YEAH. TO SEE IF IT MAYBE IS DONE IN THE PAST, IF IT'S EVEN A POSSIBILITY. PERHAPS AT MINIMUM. MY THINKING WAS DO TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS MEETINGS, ONE FOCUSED ON BUSINESS COMMUNITY, GETTING COMMUNITY INPUT FROM THE, FROM THE BUSINESSES ABOUT WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THEIR CHALLENGES, WHAT ARE THEIR NEEDS? YOU KNOW, GATHER COMMUNITY INPUT FOR, UH, THE BUSINESS SIDE. AND THEN HAVE A SECOND HEARING WHERE WE INVITE COMMUNITY MEMBERS, UM, TO PROVIDE THEIR INPUT ABOUT PARKING CHALLENGES IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. EDUCATE THEM ABOUT WHAT OUR PARKING LAWS ARE, AND THEN COME AWAY WITH THAT FOR SOME IDEAS OF A PILOT PROJECT THAT WE COULD, WITH GRANT FUNDING PURSUE TO TEST A NEW STRATEGY FOR CITY OF NATIONAL CITY THAT MIGHT GET AHEAD OF THE ISSUES. 'CAUSE WE KNOW, I MEAN, AGAIN, WITH FOCUS, GENERAL PLAN UPDATE, WE KNOW THAT WE'RE GONNA BE GETTING A LOT MORE DEVELOPMENT FOR SURE ON D FOR SURE ALONG THE FOURTH STREET CORRIDOR AND THE OTHER POCKETS THAT WERE MENTIONED. SO IT'S JUST AN I IDEA. I NO I'S A GREAT IDEA. I I I LOVE YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS. I JUST, I DON'T KNOW WHAT HOPEFULLY YEAH, THAT'D BE AWESOME. IT BECOMES TO FRUITION. BUT WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? WHAT DOES A PILOT PROGRAM LOOK LIKE? BECAUSE YOU ONLY HAVE X AMOUNT OF PARKING SPACES. SO, WELL, I CAN TELL YOU WHAT OTHER, SOME OF THE OTHER CITIES ARE DOING IS THEY'RE DOING PARKING STRUCTURES, UH, CITY OWNED, BUT THEY'RE BUILT BY PRIVATE PARKING OPERATORS. SO THINK LIKE LA OR, UH, ANY OF THE BIG, BIG PARKING COMPANIES OR LIKE STAR CHARGER, UH, SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE PARKING STRUCTURES THAT ARE BEING BUILT INTO OTHER CITIES ARE BEING BUILT WITH ELECTRONIC, UH, WITH ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS. SO IT PROVIDES APARTMENT VEHICLE, THE CHANCE TO DO, UH, CHARGE THEIR VEHICLES OVERNIGHT. NOW, THAT WOULD BE ON THE DEVELOPER. [00:35:02] THE DEVELOPER PROVIDES THE STRUCTURE. THE CITY OWNS THE, OWNS THE, THE LAND AND THE TENANTS WILL PAY FOR PARKING. THEY WOULD, THERE'S DIFFERENT MODELS FOR HOW THEY DO THAT, WHETHER IT'S MONTHLY PARKING PERMITS OR WHETHER IT'S A OKAY. UM, YOU KNOW, THE PERMIT, UH, SOME CITIES ARE DOING PERMIT PARKING. UH, SO YOU, YOU APPLY FOR A PERMIT TO PARK IN THE FACILITY. UM, OTHER, UH, UH, SOME OF THE BUILDERS ARE PUTTING IN, UH, RETAIL AND OTHER AMENITIES IN THE STRUCTURE. UH, AND SOME OF THE BUILDINGS, THEY'RE PUTTING WORKSPACE ON THE TOP. ON THE TOP LEVEL. IT'S A, UM, ELEVATED PARK SPACE AND THEN THERE'S PARKING UNDERNEATH. SO THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT, YEAH, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT MODELS OUT THERE FOR, THAT'S ONE WAY THAT I FOUND THAT CITIES WERE DEALING WITH IT. OTHERS OF THEM HAVE CHANGED THEIR PERMIT PARKING SO THAT WHEN YOU HAVE A PERMIT, IT'S TIME RESTRICTED. UH, WHICH WE DON'T TIMES, IF YOU HAVE A PERMIT, YOU'RE PERMITTED MM-HMM . RIGHT. FOR THAT FOR 24 HOURS A DAY. BUT THEY, THERE'S OTHER CITIES THAT MUCH MORE ACTIVELY MANAGE THE PERMITTED PARKING AREAS. AND I THINK CITY OF NATIONAL, UH, CITY OF SAN DIEGO IS ACTUALLY ONE OF THOSE, UH, UP IN THE UNIVERSITY AREA AROUND THE, WHERE THE UCSD, THE HOSPITAL IS UP THERE. THOSE FORMATS ARE TIMED. IT'S NIGHTTIME, UH OH. NO, IT'S DAYTIME PARKING. 'CAUSE THEIR ISSUE IS COMPETING WITH THE, UM, FOLKS WHO ARE GOING IN AND OUT OF THE MEDICAL OFFICES AND IN AND OUT OF THE HOSPITAL DURING THE DAY. SO IT'S PERMIT PARKING DURING THE DAY, BUT IT'S OPEN PARKING AT NIGHT. SO THAT'S ANOTHER WAY CITIES ARE DEALING WITH IT. UM, ONE OF THE OTHER WAYS THAT I SAW TOO WAS THAT THEY WERE, UM, UH, YOU CAN'T, WITH CALIFORNIA STATE LAW, YOU CAN'T OVERRIDE THE REGULATIONS AND FORCE THE DEVELOPERS OF THE APARTMENT BUILDINGS AND OTHER HOUSING STRUCTURES TO PROVIDE PARKING. BUT YOU CAN, UM, UH, THEY COULD CONTRIBUTE A FEE TO OTHER PROJECTS AND OTHER THINGS THAT ARE, THAT THEN CAN BE, FOR EXAMPLE, TO, UH, BUY LAND OR MAKE SPACE AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC PARKING AREAS WITHIN THE CITY. SO THERE'S DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT WAYS OF, UH, AFFECTING THE PERMIT PROCESS FOR, FOR NEW, UH, PERMITS BEING ISSUED FOR APARTMENTS, UH, CONSTRUCTION THAT CAN BENEFIT THE PARKING OPERATIONS, UH, FOR THE CITY. THAT'S ANOTHER WAY THAT FOLKS ARE DEALING WITH IT. SO, AGAIN, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, ONE, I I THINK I COULD GO BACK OUT AND GET A LIST OF SOME OF THE GRANT MONEY THAT'S OUT THERE FOR, AGAIN, BECAUSE WE'RE AN ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE COMMUNITY, WE HAVE ACCESS TO, UH, GRANTS THAT A LOT OF REGULAR CITIES DON'T, DON'T GET. UH, THAT HELPS US. AND ALSO IF WE DID SOMETHING TO DO WITH ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING AND, YOU KNOW, TEAMED UP LIKE A SCAR SKY CHARGER WHO'S ALREADY DOING THE TRUCK CHARGING, UH, DOWN THERE, WE COULD PROBABLY GET SOME, UH, CLIMATE, CLIMATE ACTION, UH, GRANT MONEY, UH, TOO, IF WE WANTED TO THINK ABOUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO DO RESEARCH OF, UM, UH, UH, A LIST OF, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT WAYS, DIFFERENT CITIES ARE DEALING WITH THE ISSUE GRANTS THAT MIGHT BE AVAILABLE. AND THEN PUT A PROPOSAL TOGETHER FOR, YOU KNOW, ONE OR TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS, GETTING BUSINESS COMMUNITY INPUT ABOUT CHALLENGES AND WHAT THEY, THEIR IDEAS AND RESIDENTS. SAME IDEA, CHALLENGES AND IDEAS. AND THEN IF YOU GUYS WOULD BE OPEN TO IT. I, YEAH, NO, I THINK IT'D BE GOOD IF, IF YOU WANTED TO DO THAT AND THEN JUST PROVIDE US INFORMATION. WE'LL JUST TAKE THAT, TAKE THAT AND JUST REVIEW IT INTERNALLY AND THEN SEE, UM, I GUESS SEE WHAT'S FEASIBLE. UH, AND THEN AS FAR AS, UH, THE, THE PUBLIC HEARINGS YOU MENTIONED, IS IT LIKE WHAT WE HAD NEXT DOOR WHERE WE LIKE INVITE THE, AN AREA OR [00:40:01] THE WHOLE CITY OR SOMETHING? YEAH, JUST LIKE A KIND OF TOWN. WE COULD EVEN PUT, WE COULD EVEN DO A TOWN HALL FORMAT, FOR EXAMPLE. WE COULD MAYBE GET WITH, UM, EACH OF THE, UH, THE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS. THEY EACH HAVE THEIR OWN TOWN HALL, TOWN HALLS. MM-HMM . MAYBE ASK THEM TO POST A PARKING DISCUSSION WITH THEIR DISTRICT AT ONE OF THEIR TOWN HALLS. THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER WAY TO, TO ACCOMPLISH IT. JUST INVITE PEOPLE. BUT I JUST, FROM WHAT WE HEARD AT THAT LAST PERMIT MEETING, I, I DEFINITELY THINK WE NEED TO BE PROACTIVE AT SOME POINT HERE IN THE CITY, HOWEVER THAT HAPPENS. UH, SO THAT WE DON'T END UP . YEAH. WORST SITUATION. YOU'RE RIGHT. YOU KNOW, I, SO I COULD ENVISION SOMEONE KILLING SOMEBODY OVER WORKING ISSUES. I THINK WE'VE GOT A GLIMPSE OF WHAT'S TO COME. YEAH. YEAH. SO, YEAH. I, I AGREE WITH YOU. YEAH, I AGREE. IS GETTING KIND OF OUT HAND. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. UM, SO THEN I GUESS WE'LL JUST HAVE TO DETERMINE HOW TO MOVE FORWARD WITH, BECAUSE I, I'M ASSUMING THAT'S MAYBE LIKE THE FIRST STEP, RIGHT? YEAH. MAYBE, MAYBE WE CAN TALK, DO SOME FOLLOW UP. WE WILL, WE TALK ABOUT THE, UM, PRESENTATION. OKAY. IF YOU GUYS COULD PROVIDE SOME FEEDBACK AND, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER WOULD HELP YOU MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS. I KNOW GIVEN BUDGET ISSUES, STAFFING IS, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS ARE UNDER A LOT OF PRESSURE RIGHT NOW. AND THE LAST THING I WANT TO DO IS MAKE YOUR JOBS TOUGH, BUT MAYBE WE CAN COME UP AGAIN WITH SOME GRANT MONEY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT WOULD ACTUALLY HELP COMES BACK JUST . YEAH. YEAH. LET 'EM KNOW. UM, I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK OF LIKE, THE PROCESS AND HOW, YEAH. I, I NEED, I WOULD NEED GUIDANCE. 'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW GUYS NORMALLY, YOU KNOW, IDENTIFY GRANTS, PURSUE GRANTS, YOU KNOW, WHAT KIND OF RESEARCH YOU NEED, WHAT KIND OF, YEAH. YEAH, BECAUSE I, I KNOW GRANTS, UM, BEING IN THE NONPROFIT WORLD, UH, APPLYING FOR THEM SOMETIMES IS A, CAN BE A JOB. YEAH. YEAH. WORK. AND THEN JUST, UM, KIND OF ON THE SAME NOTE, BUT AS FAR AS LIKE THE PRESENT, OR NOT PRESENTATION, BUT LIKE THE TOWN HALL SORT OF MEETING WHERE WE WOULD INVITE BUSINESSES AND THEN THE OTHER ONE INVITING JUST RESIDENTS. RESIDENTS. UM, I GUESS WE'LL NEED TO TALK OVER THAT JUST TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY HOW THAT WOULD HAPPEN. YEAH. LIKE IF WE WOULD SEND AN INVITE TO EVERYBODY TO THE TRAFFIC SAFETY MEETING, OR IF WE NEED TO DO SEPARATE, DO SOMETHING SEPARATE OR IT WOULD PROBABLY, OR HOW THAT WOULD WORK. IT WOULD PROBABLY BE BETTER SEPARATE. 'CAUSE I THINK OUR MEETING, THE TIMING OF OUR MEETINGS OH YEAH. IS I WANTED TO BRING UP, 'CAUSE I KNOW, UM, YVONNE IS GONNA GO BACK INTO WORK RIGHT. WITHIN LIKE, THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS AND IT, IT'S, IT'S A CONFLICT FOR HER. SO I KNOW STEVE ALSO WANTED TO CHANGE THE TIME JUST SO WE HAVE MORE RESIDENTS COME IN DURING THE AGENDA ITEMS. UM, YEAH, I THINK HE HAD SUGGESTED LIKE A LATER TIME IN CASE PEOPLE COULDN'T COME IN THE 12 O'CLOCK OR TWO. DOES THAT WORK FOR YOU? I LIKE, WE, IT'S BEEN SEVERAL MONTHS SINCE WE DISCUSSED. DO YOU REMEMBER? I MEAN, FOR US, I THINK IT SAID POSSIBLY LIKE FOUR OR FIVE. YEAH. I MEAN, JUST PEOPLE YOU KNOW, ARE OUT OF WORK. THEY ALREADY PICKED UP THE KIDS. THEY HAVE MORE TIME TO COME IN, PARTICIPATE. YEAH. I CAN MAKE IT WORK. YEAH. THAT'LL PROBABLY BE THE LATEST FOR US, UHHUH BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE OFF BECAUSE WE NEED THAT SIX. SO IF IT WOULD GO YEAH. UH, SO I THINK FOUR, FOUR OR FIVE-ISH MAYBE Y EVEN, I'M NOT SURE I CAN MAKE IT WORK. I WOULD WORK MORE PERSONALLY. OKAY. BUT I CAN MAKE IT. YEAH. THAT WOULD WORK FOR US TOO. BUT I THINK IT IS ACTUALLY I HAVE NO, NO ISSUES AND I HAVE NO ISSUES. OKAY. KELLY? I, WE COULD DISCUSS THAT WITH KELLY. YEAH. REACH OUT TO KELLY. YEAH. AND JUST, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE'S A PARTICULAR DAY AT FOUR THAT WOULD WORK BETTER YEAH. THAN ANOTHER BECAUSE IT'S A, IT IS A PROCESS TO HAVE THE, THE DAY AND THE TIME CHANGE. SO WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE THAT OUT. SO WE JUST WANTED TO CHECK IN WITH YOU GUYS TO SEE. YEAH, I, I'M TOTALLY, SEE I HAVE NO COMMENTS. OKAY. SO, SO FAR IT'S LOOKING FOR. OKAY. I'LL JUST CHECK WITH KELLY. HOPEFULLY IT WORKS. AND THEN WE'LL LET YOU GUYS KNOW. UM, YOU'LL BE AN UPDATE ON THE NEXT MEETING. OKAY. UM, WELL MOST LIKELY IT WILL BE AT FOUR NEXT AT, UM, AT 4:00 PM I'M THINKING MAYBE, DO WE BRING IT UP DISCUSSION? LIKE IN CONCLUSION, LIKE IF IT'S GONNA HAPPEN OR NOT? WE'LL HAVE TO, YEAH. WE'LL, BYLAWS, YES. OKAY. SO THEN WE HAVE TO YES. BYLAWS. I DON'T THINK WE CAN JUST SAY, NOW WE IDENTIFY THE TIME AND [00:45:01] THEN YES. COME BACK WITH THE WE UPDATED THINGS. YEAH. WE JUST KIND, OKAY. MM-HMM . SOUNDS GOOD. OKAY. SO THAT WAS MORE TO GET LIKE A READ AN IDEA IF PEOPLE WERE ON BOARD FOR LIKE A LATER TIME. YES. UHHUH. . REMEMBER STEVEN'S BEEN, YEAH. HE HAD BROUGHT IT UP YEAH. ONCE AGO, COUPLE MONTHS AGO. HAD REVISITED. YEAH. JUST LIKE, JUST WANTED TO FOLLOW UP. YEAH. OKAY. SOUNDS GOOD. AND THEN THAT'S IT. DO YOU WANT TO END ADJOURN? ADJOURN AND VOTE TO ADJOURN THE MEETING. OKAY. THANK YOU EVERYONE. I'M SORRY ABOUT THANK. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.