* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:14] UM, PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE BEGINNING, BECAUSE IN A SPECIAL MEETING YOU CAN ONLY SPEAK TO AN AGENDA, AN AGENDA ITEM. SO THEREFORE, IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO AN ITEM, YOU NEED TO PUT IN A SLIP TO SPEAK TO THAT ITEM. BUT THERE WILL NOT BE. WHAT WE NORMALLY HAVE IS THE, UH, PUBLIC ORAL COMMUNICATION AT THE BEGINNING, BECAUSE AS I SAID, YOU'D BE, YOU'D BE ADDRESSING AN ITEM ITSELF. SO JUST SO THEY'RE KIND OF CLEAR ON THAT, IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE NORMALLY DO. UH, SO WITH THAT, AND, UH, WE DO HAVE, AND HE'S HERE, WE DO HAVE A REQUEST TO ATTEND VIRTUALLY BY A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER. AND WE'VE, I'VE RECEIVED A REQUEST FROM COUNCIL MEMBER BUSH TO, UH, FOR THE NEED TO PARTICIPATE REMOTELY. FOLLOWING THE REQUIREMENTS OF AB 24 49, WE MUST FIRST CONFIRM THERE IS A QUORUM PRESENT IN THE, UH, CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS. AND WE DO HAVE THREE MEMBERS OF QUORUM, UH, AT THE DIOCESE. AND, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER BUSH IS PRESENT VIA ZOOM. COUNCIL MEMBER BUSH. PLEASE ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL TO FIRST CONFIRM THAT YOU CAN BE HEARD AND SEEN, AND THAT YOU CAN HEAR AND SEE THE DAIS CONFIRMED. ALRIGHT. AND I SEE THE INTERPRETER WITH HIS HANDS UP. OH, NEVERMIND. IT'S OKAY. YEAH. UM, THE, UH, SO IF YOU COULD PROVIDE A, A, UH, GENERAL DESCRIPTION OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES RELATED TO THE NEED TO APPEAR REMOTELY. YES. SO I'M IN BALTIMORE FOR THE AP DERAIL CONFERENCE REPRESENTING, UM, MTS, SIR. OKAY. COUNCILMAN BUSH, ARE YOU CLAIMING YOUR ABSENCE UNDER JUST CAUSE OR EMERGENCY CIRCUMSTANCES? JUST CAUSE THANK YOU. UM, WITH THAT, IS THERE ANYONE OVER THE AGE OF 18 OF AGE PRESENT AT THE REMOTE LOCATION THAT WITH YOU? NO. OKAY. UH, CITY CLERK, UH, COULD YOU PLEASE CONFIRM THE NUMBER OF TIMES THAT COUNCIL MEMBER BUSH HAS APPEARED REMOTELY WITHIN THE CALENDAR YEAR? COUNCIL MEMBER BUSH HAS ATTENDED ONE TIME THIS YEAR. THAT WOULD BE, UH, TODAY AT FOUR O'CLOCK. OKAY. FOR THE SPECIAL CLOSED SESSION. AND THAT'S ALL. JUST ONE TIME. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO TODAY WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT HE HAS APPEARED REMOTELY? CORRECT. OKAY. UM, WITH THAT, COULD I HAVE A MOTION? I SECOND. OKAY. THANK YOU VICE WITH THAT. COULD WE HAVE A ROLL CALL? VOTE COUNCIL MEMBER YAMANI HERE. I MEAN, UH, AYE. VICE MAYOR MOLINA AYE. AND MAYOR MORRISON. AYE. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. MAYOR THREE, UH, THREE ZERO VOTE. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. MM-HMM . BEFORE WE PROCEED, I, I REQUEST THE INTERPRETER TAKE A MOMENT TO EXPLAIN THE CITY'S INTERPRETATION SERVICES THAT WILL BE OFFERED FOR THIS EVENING CITY COUNCIL MEETING. GLADLY MAYOR. AND IF YOU DON'T MIND, I WILL, IT WILL TAKE JUST SLIGHTLY LONGER JUST SO THAT I CAN REPEAT, ESPECIALLY YOUR SPECIAL MEETING INDICATIONS WHERE IT COMES TO PUBLIC COMMENT. NO PROBLEM. IN SPANISH. WE THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND PLEASE SILENCE ALL CELL PHONES. ANY DEVICES IN THE CHAMBER, THAT WILL BE GREATLY APPRECIATED. ALRIGHT. I'D LIKE TO CALL THE MEETING TO [1.CALL TO ORDER] ORDER A LIVE WEBCAST OF THE MEETING MAY BE VIEWED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE. IF YOU ARE WATCHING VIA ZOOM, UH, VIEWING THE SPANISH VERSION OF THE MEETING, INTERPRETER INSTRUCTIONS WILL APPEAR IN THE CHAT BOX AT THE BOTTOM OF YOUR SCREEN. FOR THOSE WHO PREFER TO SIT IN THE CHAMBER, HEADSETS ARE AVAILABLE TO PROVIDE LIVE SPANISH TRANSLATION, PLEASE SEE THE CITY CLERK, UH, OFFICE TO COLLECT A, UM, A SET HEADSET. THE NOTICE, AGENDA AND INFORMATION ON THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY'S WEBSITE INFORMS MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT THEY MAY SUBMIT A PUBLIC COMMENT ON A SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEM IN A NUMBER OF WAYS IN PERSON BY SUBMITTING ONE OF THESE SALMON COLORED SLIPS. AND THEY'RE AT THE BACK OF THE CHAMBER, UH, VIA ZOOM BY PRE-REGISTERING [00:05:01] ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE, NO LATER THAN, UH, TWO HOURS BEFORE THE MEETING, OR BY EMAIL NO LATER THAN FOUR HOURS. UH, BEFORE THE MEETING. ALL WRITTEN COMMENTS RECEIVED, UH, ARE DISTRIBUTED TO THE COUNCIL PRIOR TO THE MEETING AND PUBLISHED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE IF RECEIVED BY THE DEADLINE. WITH THAT, COULD WE HAVE ROLL CALL PLEASE? THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER YAMANI HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER BUSH HERE. VICE MAYOR MOLINA. PRESENT. MAYOR MORRISON. PRESENT. WE HAVE A QUORUM. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NOW, AS I'VE ALREADY STATED, THERE'S NOT A TIME NOW FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. WE DO NOT HAVE THAT. THAT'LL BE ON THE INDIVIDUAL AGENDA ITEMS FOR THIS EVENING. SO, UH, NEXT I [Additional Item ] WOULD LIKE TO ANNOUNCE THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE ADJOURNING TONIGHT'S MEETING IN THE MEMORY OF THREE OF OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT HAVE PASSED AWAY HERE IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS. AND, UM, AND SO I KNOW WE HAVE SOME FAMILY MEMBERS, UH, BACK HERE AND IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME FORWARD. UH, SO, SO TONIGHT WE WOULD LIKE TO ADJOURN THE MEETING IN THE HONOR OF YOUR LOVED ONES, BOTH, UH, DAVID BACCA, UH, JIMMY, UH, NIETO AND NADINE BACCA. AND, UH, I KNOW YOUR FAMILY IS WENT THROUGH QUITE A BIT IN A VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S ROUGH WHEN YOU LOSE ONE FAMILY MEMBER AND YOU LOSE THREE IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, IT'S GONNA BEYOND DEVASTATING. AND SO, UH, SO WE DO WANNA DO THIS IF YOU'D LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING. NO, JUST, I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR RECOGNIZING THEM. THEY'VE ALL LIVED IN NATIONAL CITY THEIR ENTIRE LIFE, EXCEPT NADINE MOVED WHEN SHE WAS 20, BUT THEIR NATIONAL CITY RESIDENCE, 84 YEARS AND 55 YEARS. AND THEN NADINE FOR 50 YEARS. UH, MS. GLORIA JEAN, WOULD YOU MIND INTRODUCING YOURSELF AND YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS? YES, MY NAME IS GLORIA JEAN, UH, VAL MANTO. AND I'VE LIVED IN NASHVILLE CITY 78 YEARS, SO, AND I'M PRETTY INVOLVED WITH OUR STUFF. THAT'S REALLY GOOD. SINCE YOU'RE ONLY 56 YEARS OLD AND I'M NOT COMPLAINING THIS SECOND , UH, MY NAME IS BEATRICE BACCA, BETTER KNOWN AS PORKY, AND I LIVED IN NATIONAL CITY ALL MY LIFE. MY NAME IS KATRINA BACCA. I'M 54, AND I'VE LIVED IN NATIONAL CITY ALMOST ALL MY LIFE. ALRIGHT, WELL WE DO HAVE SOME MEMENTOS JUST TO, UH, COMMEMORATE THAT WE ARE ADUR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YOUR LOVED ONES. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH ALL OF YOU. OKAY, MAYOR. OKAY. . OH, MAYOR, ASK YES. YES. ALRIGHT. I JUST, I CAN'T WITH THE CAMERA. I, I CAN'T SEE YOU ALL. UM, CORKY, UM, , I THINK I, I HEARD, UH, UH, CORINA, UH, BUT, UM, AND I DON'T KNOW WHO ELSE IS THERE, BUT JUST WANT TO GIVE MY, UM, UH, JUST, JUST REALLY HEARTFELT, UH, CONDOLENCES. I DIDN'T KNOW, UM, NA NADINE, UM, BUT I DID KNOW, UH, DAVID AND JIMMY AND JUST, UM, FOR YEARS. AND SO, AND JUST, THIS HAS BEEN REALLY, REALLY HARD FOR, FOR YOU GUYS AND THEY'VE BEEN THE STATE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY FOR SO MANY YEARS. AND SO I JUST REALLY, UM, JUST, I JUST WANT TO GIVE MY, UH, CONDOLENCES AN HONOR AND, AND, AND ALSO, BUT, BUT CELEBRATE THEM AS WELL AND THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE NATIONAL CITY. SO THANK YOU ALL SENDING YOU MY LOVE. YES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH, COMING TONIGHT TO OUR CITY COUNCIL MEETING, MS. GLORIA JEAN, WHEN I CALLED YOU THIS WEEKEND, UH, JUST TO HEAR THE SENTIMENT IN YOUR VOICE WAS, WAS REALLY HEARTFELT. AND, AND I WANNA HONOR YOUR FAMILY. I'M GRATEFUL TO, UH, THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY AND MAYOR MORRISON FOR, UM, OFFERING THIS, UH, CELEBRATION OF LIFE TONIGHT AS BRIEF AS IT IS TONIGHT. BUT I DO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE DO HONOR YOUR FAMILY, UH, LONGSTANDING FAMILY HERE IN THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY. UM, AND, AND IT IS WONDERFUL TO SEE YOU TONIGHT. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. YEAH. AND AS MUCH AS, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES SOME PEOPLE THINK OF NATIONAL CITY AS A NAVY TOWN, WHICH MEANS A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, KIND OF TRANSITIONAL PEOPLE IN AND OUT AND EVERYTHING ELSE. WHEN PEOPLE GET TO KNOW THE CITY, YOU GET TO FIND OUT THE LARGE AMOUNT OF THE POPULATION THAT IS GENERATION AFTER GENERATION AFTER GENERATION AND FAMILIES. UM, [00:10:01] SOMEHOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW, BUT SOMEHOW WE ALL END UP BEING RELATED TO EACH OTHER SOMEHOW IN DIFFERENT WAYS. AND THEN YOU'VE GOT THESE, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU HEAR OF MEGA CHURCHES. WE HAVE THESE MEGA FAMILIES SUCH AS, YOU KNOW, VITOS, UM, BACAS PORTILLOS, VAL DURAMASS, YOU KNOW, THAT JUST, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T WANT TO GO TO THEIR FAMILY REUNION 'CAUSE THERE'S NEVER ENOUGH ROOM. YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST, UH, UM, BUT THAT'S, WELL, THERE'S ALWAYS ROOM THERE. THERE'S, THERE'S ALWAYS ROOM. THAT'S TRUE. THERE'S, THERE ALWAYS MAKE ROOM. BUT THERE'S, UM, BUT AS I SAY, IT'S, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE, WE TALK ABOUT THIS BEING A FAMILY TOWN, IT IS VERY MUCH THAT WAY. AND WE HAVE THESE FAMILIES THAT GROW UP HERE, CONTINUE TO LIVE HERE. AND IF THEY DO LEAVE FOR SOME REASON, THEY ALWAYS COME BACK AND, UH, 'CAUSE THIS IS ALWAYS HOME. SO ONCE AGAIN, UM, WE, WE LOVE WHAT YOUR FAMILIES HAVE MEANT TO A, TO THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE WITH THAT. UM, NEXT WE GO ON TO, AND I BELIEVE I BROUGHT IT JOSIE, I DON'T BELIEVE I BROUGHT UP THIS NEXT ONE. JOSIE, [5.1 Parks and Recreation Month] UH, THE PROCLAMATION. I DON'T, YEAH. COULD YOU DO IT ON THAT ONE? IN THE MEANTIME, UH, CAPTAIN SULLIVAN, IT'S YOUR TURN. WE'RE GONNA GONNA LET IT BE YOUR TURN. WELL, THANK YOU. OH, I THOUGHT YOU WERE GONNA REACH DOWN AND PULL UP A BELT. AND I WAS GONNA SAY THAT WAS NOT YOURS. I WANTED, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, WE GIVE HIM THE RECOMMENDATION THAT YOURS WHAT? OFFICER CRUZ, COME ON DOWN. THERE WE GO. SO I'M GONNA READ SOMETHING REALLY QUICK AND THEN I'LL TALK AFTER THAT. BUT THANK YOU. MY NAME IS, UH, CAPTAIN CHRIS SULLIVAN. UH, THE MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS STAFF COMMUNITY, UH, OFFICER CRUZ, UH, PARTICIPATED THE 21ST ANNUAL CYAC OF THE COMMUNITY YOUTH ATHLETIC CENTER. UH, BATTLE OF THE BADGES TOOK PLACE ON SATURDAY, JUNE 20, 20, 26, ABOARD THE USS MIDWAY, THE MUSEUM. THIS PREMIER CHARITY BOXING EVENT FEATURED LOCAL FIRST RESPONDERS, INCLUDING POLICE OFFICERS, FIREFIGHTERS, AND MILITARY PERSONNEL, UH, STEPPING INTO THE RING TO RAISE FUNDS FOR THE CYAC YOUTH PROGRAMS. UH, FOR THOSE UNFAMILIAR WITH C-O-A-C-Y-A-C, THE ORGANIZATION HAS DEDICATED MANY YEARS TO SUPPORTING AT-RISK YOUTH BY PROVIDING GUIDANCE, DISCIPLINE, STRUCTURE, AND POSITIVE DIRECTION DURING SOME OF THE MOST INFLUENTIAL YEARS OF THEIR LIVES. UH, AT THIS YEAR'S EVENT, THREE OF OUR OFFICERS AND ONE OF OUR LOCAL FIREFIGHTERS LACED UP THEIR GLOVES AND COMPETED VALIANTLY IN FRONT OF A LARGE AND ENTHUSIASTIC CROWD. I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE OFFICERS, CHRISTINA SOTO, WHO IS NOT HERE, UNFORTUNATELY. MM-HMM . UM, OFFICER ERIC TECH, WHO IS ALSO NOT HERE. AND OFFICER CRUZ FOR REPRESENTING OUR DEPARTMENT WITH PROFESSIONALISM, COURAGE, AND DETERMINATION. UH, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK THE NATIONAL CITY POLICE, FAMILY MEMBERS, FRIENDS AND SUPPORTERS WHO ATTENDED THE EVENT AND CHEERED ON THE FIGHTERS. THE ENCOURAGEMENT AND SUPPORT HELPED MAKE THIS EVENT A TREMENDOUS SUCCESS WHILE CONTRIBUTING TO AN OUTSTANDING CAUSE THAT CONTINUES TO POSITIVELY IMPACT THE LIVES OF LOCAL YOUTH. JUST REALLY QUICK, THIS IS AN EVENT THAT HAS KIND OF BEEN A STAPLE AND IF ANYBODY UNDERSTANDS ANYTHING BOXING, HOW STRESSFUL IT IS, WHAT IT TAKES TO TRAIN, PRACTICE, AND THEN GETTING INTO THE RING WITH ALL THOSE PEOPLE. AND BECAUSE OF THAT, UM, OFFICER CRUZ IS HERE AND HE HAPPENED TO BRING HIS BELT . UM, BUT I DO OFFER SOME WORDS IF, IF OFFICER CRUZ WOULD LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THIS. SURE. UH, SO I APOLOGIZE, OFFICER CHRISTINA SOTO AND OFFICER ERIC TECH COULDN'T MAKE IT TODAY, BUT THEY'D, UH, THEY DID TELL ME TO SHARE SOME WORDS JUST OF APPRECIATION. I KNOW THE MAYOR WAS THERE, UH, CITY OFFICIALS AS WELL AS A HUGE SUPPORT FROM THE NATIONAL CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT, VICE MAYOR. MM-HMM . UM, AS WELL AS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. UH, WE, I MEAN, WHILE WE WERE FIGHTING, WE HEARD, YOU KNOW, THE CHANCE AND EVERYTHING. SO WE OBVIOUSLY COULDN'T HAVE DONE IT WITH YOU, WITH WITHOUT, WITHOUT YOUR SUPPORT. UM, AND I DO HAVE TO ADD THAT THIS YEAR OUT OF THE EIGHT BOXING MATCHES, HALF OF THOSE WERE PROBABLY REPRESENTED BY MEMBERS OF THE NATIONAL CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS THE, UH, NATIONAL CITY FIRE DEPARTMENT. SO, THANK YOU. JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ALLOWING US TO BE HERE. IT IS TRULY AN HONOR THAT WE HAVE OFFICERS TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT MEMBERS OF THE DIOCESE HERE, AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY AND WHAT OUR OFFICERS DO THAT PROUDLY HONOR MM-HMM . NOT ONLY THE CYAC AND WHAT THEY STAND FOR, BUT TO BE A PART OF THAT IS, IS, IS ABSOLUTELY AMAZING. AND THANK YOU FOR THAT. YEP. AND, UH, YEAH, WE, AND NEED TO SAY THAT THE WHOLE THING IS A FUNDRAISER FOR COMMUNITY, A YOUTH ATHLETIC, UH, UH, CLUB. AND, UH, [00:15:01] AND I CAN REMEMBER THE FIRST ONE BECAUSE I'VE BEEN JUST ABOUT EVERY ONE OF 'EM THROUGH THE YEARS. UH, FIRST ONE WAS IN A MINI BALLROOM IN ONE OF THE OLD HOTELS DOWN IN MISSION VALLEY. LITTLE IT WASN'T, OH, THAT BALLROOM WAS NOT AS, WAS NOT AS BIG. I THINK THIS CHAMBER WAS INCLUDING THE BOXING RING AND EVERYTHING. THAT WAS, THAT'S HOW BIG IT WAS. AND OF COURSE, NOW IT'S, NOW IT'S HELD ON THE MIDWAY AND IT'S PACKED OUT. AND, UH, UM, IT'S A GREAT EVENT. AND, UM, AS YOU WERE MENTIONING, EIGHT MATCHES, FOUR OF 'EM HAD NATIONAL CITY PEOPLE IN IT. NOW I WILL SAY SAN DIEGO FIRE DEPARTMENT, I GOTTA GOTTA SAY TO THEM, THEY DID WIN ONE, ONE MATCH. AND THE ONLY WAY THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO WIN IT IS 'CAUSE THEY BOXED TWO SAN DIEGO FIREFIGHTERS BOXING EACH OTHER. THAT WAS THE ONLY WAY THAT THEY COULD WIN A MATCH. . AND, UH, YEAH. IF I MAY ANSWER THAT, MR. MAYOR, UH, ONE OF OUR FIREFIGHTERS, FIRE ENGINEER SCOTT HARRIS, HE WON HIS BELT AS WELL. YEP. SO, VERY PROUD TO BE PART OF THIS. YEAH. AND, UH, YEAH, OUT OF THE FOUR MATCHES THAT WE, THAT NATIONAL SEA WAS INVOLVED IN, WE GOT BELTS AND THREE OF THE FOUR, AND THE FOURTH ONE COULD HAVE WENT EITHER WAY, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT WAS REALLY CLOSE. I'M SORRY SHE GOT CHEATED, BUT IT WAS, COULD HAVE WENT. IT COULD, IT COULD HAVE WENT EITHER WAY. OKAY. NOW TH THIS OUGHT BE GOOD, LOUIS. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OFFICER STRO IS YOUR BELT. THIS IS VERY EXCITING. IT'S THE FIRST TIME I HAD GONE TO BATTLE OF THE BADGES [5.2 Battle of the Badges] AND IT TRULY IS A BOXING MATCH. I MEAN, THIS, THIS WAS EXCITING. AND, UM, AGAIN, ALL FOR, UM, UH, CYAC COMMUNITY YOUTH ATHLETIC CENTER. AND I DO WANNA THANK, UH, CLEMENTE. HE, HE WAS, UH, SUCH A ENTERTAINER. CERTAINLY. UM, THAT'S THE REASON I WAS ABLE TO GO THERE. HE WAS THE HOST, UH, THAT ALLOWED FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR HOSTED ME AND, AND MY, MY ABILITY TO BE AT THE, THE PLACE. AND IT WAS JUST WONDERFUL. THANK YOU FOR ENTERTAINING US AND, AND BEING SO FIT, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU COULD TAKE THE PUNCHES, BUT ALSO NATIONAL CITY DID WELL, REPRESENTED BEAUTIFULLY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND I COULDN'T LET IT GO WITHOUT FELT, I COULDN'T LET IT GO WITHOUT TELLING A LITTLE BIT OF A STORY. AND THAT IS NOT, THAT WAS NOT ONLY YOUR FIRST TIME IN BATTLE, IF THAT WAS YOUR FIRST TIME TO A FIGHT, WASN'T IT? ? HERE WE GO. HERE WE GO. YEAH, WE'RE DONE. OKAY. WELL, I, I, I, I'VE GOTTA ASK THE VICE MAYOR THIS WITH, THIS IS NOT ONLY YOUR FIRST TIME AT BATTLE OF THE BADGE, BUT THIS WAS YOUR FIRST TIME IN A FIGHT, WASN'T IT? YES, YES. VERY FIRST TIME. AND ALL I CAN SAY IS, AT THE BEGINNING, AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MATCHES, SHE WAS HAVING HER HANDS OVER HER FACE, . I, AND SHE GOES, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN WATCH THIS. ARE THEY, ARE THEY GONNA HIT EACH OTHER? AND THEN BY THE END OF THE EVENING SHE GOES, OH, COME ON. HIT THEM AGAIN. HIT HIM AGAIN. . SO ANYWAY, ALRIGHT. UP WE GO. SEE YOU AGAIN. I SHOULD, I SHOULD YOUR PROCLAMATIONS HERE. YOU KNOW WHAT? OH, WE DID, DIDN'T WE? OH YEAH. OKAY. ALRIGHT. OKAY. A LOT OF UNUSUAL THINGS HAPPENING TONIGHT. SO I, UH, I SKIPPED SOMETHING. AND THAT WE DON'T, ESPECIALLY WITH THIS WEEK, THAT WE DEFINITELY DON'T WANT TO DO. AND THAT WAS WE, WE SKIPPED THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. OH, WOO. SO, I'M SORRY, I'M GONNA GO BACK. WE, WE, WE DID IT EARLIER FOR THE, FOR THE, FOR THE CLOSE SESSION. FOR THE CLOSE SESSION. WE JUST DIDN'T DO IT FOR THIS ONE. I JUST GOT REMINDED THAT COULD WE PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND, UH, PLEDGE FOR OF ALLE. WE CAN DO PLEASE. READY, BEGIN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. GLAD WE DID THAT. AND I'M NOT TOO SURE, DO WE HAVE, I DIDN'T RECEIVE ANYTHING TODAY ABOUT THE PASTOR BEING HERE. I SAID, I DON'T THINK WE DO, UH, THIS TIME. ALRIGHT. OKAY, EVERYONE PLEASE BE SEATED. ALRIGHT, NEXT WE GO TO A PROCLAMATION. AND THIS IS PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH. AND SO LET'S GET THIS DAPPER YOUNG GUY COME UP HERE. AND PACHECO, I AM, UH, HONORED TO, UH, ACCEPT THIS ON BEHALF OF, UM, THE CITY AS THE COMMUNITY SERVICES DIRECTOR. UM, I'M ALSO GONNA, UM, WHEN WE COME UP HERE TO TAKE A PICTURE, PUT OUR, UH, ACTING CI UH, ACTING PUBLIC WORKS ENGINEERING DIRECTOR, MARTHA JUAREZ ON THE SPOT TO COME UP. BECAUSE NOT ONLY IS IT PARKS AND REC, IT'S PARKS AND FACILITIES, RIGHT? AND SO WITHOUT HAVING THESE BEAUTIFUL [00:20:01] PARKS, BEAUTIFUL FACILITIES, WE CANNOT HAVE PROGRAMS. AND, AND IT'S REALLY THIS BACKBONE OF THE COMMUNITY. UM, HAVING OUR FRONTLINE PEOPLE, THEIR DEDICATION TO NOT ONLY SERVE THIS COMMUNITY, BUT PROVIDE GREAT QUALITY PROGRAMS, JUST HAPPENS THAT WE HAVE A AGENDA ITEM LATER UNDER CONSENT FOR THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB, UM, DOING AN AMENDMENT AND WHAT GREAT WORK THEY'RE PROVIDING ALSO TIES INTO PARKS AND RECREATION. SO I'M NOT GONNA MAKE, UM, THE PRESIDENT, CEO OF THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB, MICHELLE MALIN COME UP, BUT I WOULD GIVE HER A LITTLE SHOUT OUT HERE. SHE IS HAPPY TO BE IN THE AUDIENCE. AND , UH, WE APPRECIATE ALL THE THINGS THAT BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB DO. WE HAVE OTHER PARTNERS, OUR OUR POOL PARTNERS, THE GOLF COURSE PARTNERS. WITHOUT, WITHOUT THIS GROUP, UM, WE COULDN'T PROVIDE THOSE THINGS. UM, AND I HOPE MARTHA WOULD JOIN ME UP HERE FOR A PICTURE FOR THE PROCLAMATION. I AND, UH, , SHE'S WEARING HER FLY. THANK, THANK YOU SO MUCH. UH, DIRECTOR PACHECO, UH, MARTA JUAREZ, ACTING DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING AND PUBLIC WORKS. YES, IT IS AN HONOR TO, UH, HELP ACCEPT THIS PROCLAMATION ON BEHALF OF OUR TEAM. UM, EVEN THOUGH PUBLIC WORKS IS MUCH BROADER AND A LOT OF A LOT MORE THINGS, IT DOES INCLUDE PARKS, UH, PARKS, FACILITIES, MAINTENANCE, AND WE, YOU ALL SEE THEM OUT THERE. THEY'RE SOME OF THE MOST VISIBLE MEMBERS OF OUR TEAM, AND THEY'RE AT THE PARKS EVERY SINGLE DAY. 365 DAYS A YEAR. WE HAVE A PARKS EMPLOYEE WORKING. UM, SO WE APPRECIATE THEM VERY MUCH AND WANNA HONOR THE WORK THAT THEY DO EVERY DAY SO THAT OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS CAN GO OUT AND ENJOY THE OUTDOOR SPACE, THE INDOOR SPACE OF OUR FACILITIES AS WELL, AND ATHLETIC FACILITIES, ALL OF THAT. SO THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING THEM. ALRIGHT. YEAH. THIS, AND THIS IS FOR THE MONTH OF JULY, SINCE WE DON'T HAVE A MEETING IN JULY. AND JULY STARTS TOMORROW. AND FOR THE NEXT FIVE DAYS, WE'RE GONNA GET TO ENJOY THE PARK A LOT FOR THE JULY 4TH CELEBRATION. YES. OH, YES. . OKAY. MARTHA'S OUR ALL DECKED OUT IN HER COLORS. AND, UH, AND THE PROBLEM IS, DEPENDING ON HOW THE GAME GOES TONIGHT, I LIVE ON THE EAST END OF TOWN. I MAY HAVE A HARD TIME GETTING ACROSS ISLAND, BUT, WE'LL, WE'LL SEE, WE'LL SEE ABOUT THAT. I TOLD HIM TO PUT HIS CAR IN THE ACTION . OKAY. UM, NEXT WE GET INTO, UH, CONSENT CALENDAR. JUST WANNA CHECK IF ANY OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE ANY CONFLICTS OR EX PARTE DISCLOSURES ON CONSENT, UH, CALENDAR ITEMS AND NOT SEEING ANYTHING. WE GO INTO [6.CONSENT CALENDAR] CONSENT CALENDAR, WHICH IS ITEM SIX ONE THROUGH 6 6 17. WE ARE REMOVING SIX 16 SINCE THIS WAS ACTUALLY A DUPLICATE ON THE AGENDA. SO, UM, AND I DO HAVE REQUESTS TO PULL ITEM ONE, ITEM THREE, ITEM NINE AND 11 1 3 9. SURE. I'M NOT LEAVING ANYONE OUT HERE. OKAY. YEAH. 1, 3, 9 11 ZONING ONES THAT I HAVE OFF CONSENT. SO, UM, WE'LL, UH, I THINK WE NEED TO, UH, UH, PARDON ME, MAYOR. YEAH. YEAH. UH, YOU'RE SAYING ITEM NINE, BUT I THINK CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS ARE UNDER NUMBER SIX, IS THAT CORRECT? 6.9. 6.9. GOT IT. SIX POINT, YEAH. 6.1, 6.3, 6.9, SIX POINT 11. AND, UH, UH, AND I THINK THAT, UH, WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT, UH, 17. YEAH. YOU CAN EITHER POST 17 OR, UH, REORDER AND MAKE 17 NUMBER 16. OKAY. LET'S DO THAT. JUST, I THINK TO MAKE THE RECORD A LOT CLEANER. IF ITEM 17, WE'LL REPLACE ITEM 16, WHICH WAS A DUPLICATE. AND SO TURN THAT INTO ITEM 16 AND WE'LL PULL THAT ONE. UH, ANYTHING ELSE FROM ANYONE OTHER THAN THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN PULLED THING? NOTHING. COULD I HAVE A MOTION? I MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE REMAINDER OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS. I SECOND, I SECOND THAT, MR. CHAIR. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND COMMENT. MR. CHAIR. HUH? COMMENT. WELL, UH, COULD YOU GO AHEAD AND HIT YOUR, UH, UH, BUTTONS IN ON [00:25:01] THE MOTION SECOND. OH, SORRY. IT, IT'S ROLL CALL THOUGH. THAT'S RIGHT. IT'S, IT'S ALL GONNA BE, IT'S ALL GONNA BE ON THE OTHER ONE ANYWAY. OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. AND, UH, YES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I HAVE VERY, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M MEAN GREAT, GREAT BRIEFING WITH CITY MANAGER. IT'S HIS FIRST CITY MANAGER BRIEFING WITH ME AND, UH, AND EXECUTIVE TEAM. I HAVE SOME, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, BUT I'M NOT PULLING THOSE ITEMS. UM, THEY ALREADY KNOW WHAT THEY WERE. THANK YOU MAYOR. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. COULD WE HAVE ROLL CALL VOTE COUNCIL MEMBER BUSH? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER RAMANI. AYE. VICE MAYOR MOLINA? YES. MAYOR MORRISON. AYE. MOTION APPROVED. OKAY. UM, NOW I'M, LET'S SEE, WE HAVE, UH, ITEM [6.1 Approval of Meeting Minutes] SIX ONE, WHICH IS THE APPROVAL OF THE, UH, MEETING MINUTES. AND, UH, TED GOTCHU. TED GOTCH HERE. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I JUST, UH, WANNA LET YOU KNOW THAT I'VE SUBMITTED SCRIBES FOR ITEM 6.8 AND 6.17. IN THIS GROUP OF CONSENT CALENDARS ON 6.1, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE MEETING OF JUNE 16TH. THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD WAS SPLIT BETWEEN THE BEGINNING AND THE END OF THE MEETING. AND THE ACT OF MAKING PEOPLE WAIT FOR OVER FIVE, FOUR HOURS IS A POOR WAY TO TREAT THE PUBLIC. I DON'T THINK ANYONE WANTS TO GO BACK TO THE FIVE AND SIX HOUR MEETINGS WE HAD EARLIER THIS YEAR. YOU HAD 18 PEOPLE IN THE MINUTES. DID YOU READ THESE MINUTES, RIGHT? YES. GOOD. I HOPE SO. POLICY 1 0 4 WAS CITED. I THINK WE NEED TO CHANGE POLICY 1 0 4 TO ALLOW ALL MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING. I ALSO, IN THE PAST HAVE SUGGESTED THAT YOU MOVE PROCLAMATIONS, NEW EMPLOYEE INTRODUCTIONS, EMPLOYEE OF THE QUARTER AND GROUP PRESENTATIONS, A LOT LIKE YOU'VE DONE TONIGHT, UP TO THIS POINT, TO THE MEETING IN BETWEEN THE TWO REGULAR MEETINGS AND THE TUESDAY IN BETWEEN THE TWO REGULAR MEETINGS SO THAT YOU SPEED YOUR MEETINGS UP, TAKE ALL THESE THINGS THAT DON'T REQUIRE CONTROVERSY OR LOTS OF COMMUNI COMMUNICATION AND STILL RECOGNIZE THE, THE PEOPLE INVOLVED. YOU HAD NINE PEOPLE, IN FACT, DOYLE MORRISON SPOKE TO YOU THAT NIGHT ABOUT HOW LONG HE HAD WAITED AND THAT THERE WAS SOME SHUFFLING OF THE ORANGE SLIPS. I THINK ALL MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC SHOULD SPEAK AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING. THAT'S THE BEST AND RESPECTFUL WAY TO HANDLE THESE THINGS. THANK YOU. GREAT. UH, WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE ON ITEM ONE, WHICH IS OUR MINUTES MOTION TO APPROVE A SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. OKAY. COULD WE HAVE, UH, ROLL CALL COUNCIL MEMBER BUSH? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER YAMANI. AYE. VICE MAYOR MOLINA? YES. MAYOR MORRISON. AYE. MOTION APPROVED. ALRIGHT, NEXT [6.3 8th Street Bicycle and Pedestrian Rail Crossing Enhancements CIP 22-33 PSA No. F029 Rev. 1.] WE GO TO ITEM THREE. THIS IS THE EIGHTH STREET BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN RAIL CROSSING ENHANCEMENTS. AND I HAVE TWO SPEAKERS, UH, ED EDO AND CYNTHIA FULLER ES WELCOME CITY MANAGER. , WE NEED YOU. UH, ANYWAY, UH, LET ME GET TO MY QUESTION HERE. I WANTED TO ASK YOU, UM, THIS IS MORE OF A PROCESS QUESTION. UM, THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, YOU HAVE SEVERAL PROJECTS HERE, AND I JUST WANTED TO GET CONFIRMATION THAT WHEN YOU HAVE THESE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS AND YOU'RE APPROVING THESE CONTRACTS OR EXTENDING CONTRACTS, THAT IT SEEMS TO ME AS BEING PART OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, YOU HAVE THE APPROPRIATIONS ALREADY IDENTIFIED AND THAT'S A GOOD THING. AND THEN YOU'RE ACTING ON THEM AND DOING WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO TO MAKE 'EM CONTRACTS, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANNA DO. MY QUESTION IS THIS, THE PROCESS IS THAT YOU HAVE THE APPROACHES SET UP BEFORE YOU HAVE THE COMMITMENTS EARNED OBLIGATIONS. I'VE SEEN SOME TRANSACTIONS AND I HEAR COMMITMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE THAT IT'S NOT ALWAYS BEEN THAT WAY IN TERMS OF HAVING COMMITMENTS AND OBLIGATIONS, UH, HAVING THE APPROPRIATIONS SET UP, THE FUNDING SET UP BEFORE YOU HAVE CONTRACTS. AS AN EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, OUR LABOR NEGOTIATIONS, IT SEEMS TO ME I'VE BEEN ASKING MANY, MANY TIMES, DID WE HAVE, HAVE, DID WE HAVE OUR FUNDING SOURCES SET UP BEFORE WE MADE THOSE COMMITMENTS? WE, I DON'T, THE RESPONSE OR NON-RESPONSE I GET SEEMS TO INDICATE THAT MAYBE WE DON'T YET IN OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, THE WAY THE CURRENT, THE CORRECT AND CORRECT METHOD THAT SHOULD BE [00:30:01] USED, UM, IS THAT WE DO. SO I'M JUST SEEING SOME INCONSISTENCIES IN THE WAY WE DO SOME OF THIS, THESE COMMITMENTS. MAYBE I'M WRONG IF I'M WRONG, I LIKE TO KNOW WHAT I'M WRONG ABOUT. THANK YOU. OKAY, THANK YOU. OKAY. UH, THIS IS FOR, UH, THE EIGHTH AVENUE BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN RAIL CROSSING ENHANCEMENTS. WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE? MY MAYOR, OH, WAIT A MINUTE. YOU DO. I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY. . CYNTHIA, YOU'RE STANDING RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME. THANK YOU, . GO FOR IT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, CITY MANAGERS, STAFF AND ALL HERE TONIGHT. I'M, UH, AS TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMISSIONER. I HAVE HAD MULTIPLE OPPORTUNITIES TO ENGAGE WITH CITY STAFF ON THIS PROJECT, WHICH I VERY STRONGLY SUPPORT. I WANNA TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE THE OUTSTANDING WORK OF OUR CITY'S ENGINEERING AND PUBLIC WORK STAFF ON THIS PROJECT. THESE KINDS OF GRADES, SEPARATED CROSSINGS ARE ESSENTIAL FOR SAFETY, MOBILITY AND CONNECTING OUR NEIGHBORHOODS TO THE WATERFRONT SCHOOLS AND JOBS ALSO IN THAT AREA TOO. WE'VE HAD FLOODING DOWN THERE. SO I'M CONVINCED THAT THIS PROJECT WILL SOLVE SOME OF THOSE PROBLEMS. PROJECTS LIKE THIS DON'T HAPPEN WITHOUT THE PERSISTENT PROFESSIONAL TECHNICAL WORK BEHIND THE SCENES CONCEPT DEVELOPMENT, COST ESTIMATION, COORDINATION WITH BNSF AND MORE. AND THE LONG PROCESS OF LINING UP COMPETITIVE GRANTS, WHICH ARE SO IMPORTANT FOR OUR CITY. ALL STAFF INVOLVED DESERVE SPECIAL RECOGNITION FOR CONTINUING TO PURSUE THESE GRANTS AND FOR POSITIONING NATIONAL CITY TO COMPETE EFFECTIVELY. EVERY DOLLAR WE SECURE, UH, EXTERNALLY REDUCES THE BURDEN ON OUR LOCAL BUDGET AND ACCELERATES PROJECTS THAT RESIDENTS HAVE NEEDED FOR DECADES. PLEASE KEEP MOVING AHEAD ON THIS PROJECT, UH, AND KNOW THAT THE COMMUNITY SEES AND APPRECIATES, UH, THE EFFORT IT TAKES TO BRING THESE COMPLEX MOBILITY IMPROVEMENTS TO LIFE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. GREAT. THANK YOU. WITH THAT, OKAY. YES. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU TO OUR SPEAKERS TONIGHT. UM, I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THESE PROJECTS AS WELL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO STAFF FOR ALL OF THE WORK. AND I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, MAYOR. OKAY. THAT IS FOR STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. YES. OKAY. I JUST SAY THAT 'CAUSE IT'S A TWO-PARTER, SO, OKAY. OH, YES. UM, ALRIGHT, SO WE HAVE A MOTION. SECOND. I'M STILL REACHING FOR BUTTONS HERE, . SO I'M OUTTA HABIT. UH, CAN WE HAVE ROLL CALL PLEASE? COUNCIL MEMBER BUSH? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER YAMANI. AYE. VICE MAYOR MOLINA? YES. MAYOR MORRIS. AYE. MOTION APPROVE. OKAY. UH, NEXT WE GO [6.9 First Amendment to the Keyser Marston Associates Agreement to Evaluate the Own NC Homeownership Request for Proposals by Developers for City-Owned Properties] TO SIX NINE, AND THIS IS THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE KAISER MARSTON ASSOCIATES AGREEMENT TO EVALUATE THE OWN NATIONAL CITY HOME OWNERSHIP, UH, REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS BY DEVELOPERS FOR CITY OWNED PROPERTIES. AND THIS IS EDWARD NETTA. THIS IS ONE WHERE, UM, I'M LOOKING AT IT. I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, YOU WANNA EXTEND THE AGREEMENT FOR $20,000, BUT I REALLY DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAS BEEN SAID THAT NEEDS MORE EXPLANATION THAT IT COSTS $20,000 MORE TO BE SAID. YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT 704 DIFFERENT DEVELOPERS AND ONLY THREE CAME BACK AND ONLY TWO WERE SOMEWHAT CREDIBLE. ONLY IF WE GIVE THE PROPERTY AWAY. UM, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY $20,000 MORE HAS TO BE SET SPENT ON THIS AREA. AND MY UNDERSTANDING THIS CORRECTLY, IF I'M NOT, THEN UH, LET ME KNOW. THANK YOU. OR LET THE PUBLIC KNOW. OKAY. THANK YOU. WELL, I THINK WE CAN MENTION THAT THERE WERE, EVEN THOUGH THERE WERE PROPOSALS MADE, THERE WAS A NUMBER OF CHANGES MADE BY COUNCIL THAT ARE GONNA HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED, UH, TO BRING IT BACK. AND, UH, UM, AND THE OTHER THING, LET ME JUST STATE THAT I KNOW, I KNOW IT HAS A NICE TITLE ABOUT OWN NATIONAL CITY, BUT ACTUALLY ALMOST ALL THE PROPOSALS ARE FOR, UH, RENTAL APART APARTMENT RENTALS. AND SO, UH, I SAY THE TITLE, TITLE IS A LITTLE BIT MIS MISLEADING, UH, ON THAT. UM, THE, UH, BUT THAT'S JUST WHAT THE MARKET IS, IS DEMANDING. I'M SAD TO SAY. UH, WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE ON, UH, 6.9? AND THIS IS ALSO A TWO-PARTER MOVE TO APPROVE. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION, BUT A SECOND, SECOND MOTION AND A SECOND. SEEING NO DISCUSSION. UH, PLEASE HAVE ROLL CALL. COUNCIL MEMBER BUSH? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER ANI AYE. VICE MAYOR MOLINA? YES. MAYOR MORRISON. AYE. MOTION APPROVED. OKAY. THE [6.11.Awarding a Contract to Borja Engineering & Construction, Inc. for Public Restroom Improvements at MLK Jr. Community Center, National City Public Library, Kimball Park, and Las Palmas Pool Building, CIP No. 26-09] NEXT ONE IS, UH, SIX 11. THIS IS AWARDING A CONTRACT TO BORJA ENGINEERING AND CONSTRUCTION, INCORPORATED FOR PUBLIC RESTROOM IMPROVEMENTS AT MLK JUNIOR [00:35:01] COMMUNITY CENTER, NATIONAL CITY PUBLIC LIBRARY, KIMBALL PARK, AND LAS PALM POOL BUILDING. , AND, UH, RIGHT ON TIME, MR. THOMAS REICH. OKAY. UH, I'M VERY SERIOUS ABOUT THIS. I WANT A SIX ROLL DISPENSER FOR TOILET PAPER IN THE NATIONAL PUBLIC LIBRARY. KIMBALL PARK, LOS PALM PALM AND LOS PALM, AND LA MARTIN LUTHER KING, ALL THESE THINGS. IT'S VERY, THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO ME. I CAN'T, I HATE IT WHEN THEY, UH, THERE'S NO TOILET PAPER AND EVERYONE IN NATIONAL CITY DESERVES TO HAVE TOILET PAPER IN A RESTROOM. AND THEY'RE GETTING FOUR. IT SOUNDS LIKE A CAMPAIGN SLOGAN. THEY'RE GETTING $485,000 FOR THIS AND FOR CONTINGENCY. SO THEY CAN DO THIS WITH A $72,000 CONTINGENCY FRONT. I WAS JUST GONNA, I WAS JUST GONNA LOOK OVER AT OUR, OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT. WE'RE GONNA ASK, IS THERE ENOUGH IN THE CONTINGENCY SO WE CAN HAVE A MULTIPLE TOILET PAPER DISPENSER? . ALRIGHT. WE'LL LOOK INTO IT. UH, AS, UH, REMEMBER YA MAN, YOU SAID ABOUT TIME, ABOUT THESE BATHROOMS, BUT, UH, SO WITH THAT, UH, WHAT, WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE? SO, MOVE, MR. CHAIR. I SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. UH, CAN WE HAVE ROLL CALL, PLEASE? COUNCIL MEMBER BUSH? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER ANI AYE. VICE MAYOR MOLINA? YES. MAYOR MORRISON. AYE. MOTION APPROVED. OKAY, MR. REICH, YOU ARE THE MOST PRACTICAL PERSON. I LOVE YOUR COMMENT. THANK YOU. . . UH, NEXT WE GO TO [6.17.Temporary Use Permit – Meeting of Styles Hosted by Vision Culture Foundation at 1726 Wilson Ave. on Sunday, July 19th, 2026, from 9:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m] ITEM, WE RENUMBERED IT, ITEM 16. AND THAT IS THE, UH, TEMPORARY USE PERMIT MEETING OF STYLES HOSTED BY VISION CONSULT, UH, CULTURE FOUNDATION AT 1726 WILSON. THAT'S ON SUNDAY. UM, JULY 19TH. YOU, WHO WAS, WHO'S GONNA BE REPORTING OUT ON THAT ONE? I WILL, UH, I WILL START ON THIS. UM, AND, AND AS THE COUNCIL KNOWS, UM, THIS, THIS WAS, UH, PRESENTATION, UM, ABOUT A MONTH AND A HALF AGO NOW, I BELIEVE. UM, UH, UH, VISION CULTURE FOUNDATION CAME TO THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS AND, AND GAVE A PRESENTATION ON THE PROJECT AT THE TIME. UM, DIDN'T REALIZE, OR THEY DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH A, A, A TEMPORARY USE PERMIT, UH, PROCESS. UM, THAT WAS SUBMITTED. THE STAFF IDENTIFIED A NUMBER OF, OF CONCERNS WITH THAT. AND WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH, UH, VISION CULTURE FOUNDATION AND, UM, DANIEL GONZALEZ FROM COUNCIL MEMBER BUSH'S, UM, OFFICE TO, UH, GET THE DOCUMENTS WE NEEDED, UNDERSTAND THE PROJECT AND, AND, AND TRY TO MOVE IT FORWARD. UM, WE STILL HAVE, UM, A NUMBER OF, I WOULD GUESS, UH, CLASSIFIED AS UNMET, UM, REQUESTS. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE TRIED TO MOVE THIS FORWARD AND, AND WE'RE, WE'RE AT A POINT WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE KIND OF WAITING ON THOSE, THOSE, UH, ITEMS TO BE SUBMITTED. UH, WHICH INCLUDE THINGS LIKE, UM, THE, UM, UH, PROPOSED DRAWING OR ARTWORK, UM, THAT WE, WE NEED TO HAVE THE, UM, THE CALTRAN PERMIT, UH, INSURANCE, UH, VERIFICATION. UH, I THINK THERE WAS ONE OTHER ONE, HEIDI, IF YOU CAN, UM, THE HOLD HARMLESS SYN INDEMNIFY. YEAH. HOLD THE VISION CULTURE DOING THAT. NOT THE CITY, AGAINST THE CITY. RIGHT. UM, OH, AND WAIVERS FOR ALL VOLUNTEERS WILL HAVE WAIVERS. YEAH. WAIVERS FOR THE VOLUNTEERS. SO AS, AS THE COUNCIL KNOWS, UM, THIS IS AN ACTIVE CONSTRUCTION SITE, UM, WHICH CREATES A WHOLE DIFFERENT LEVEL OF, OF, UH, DIFFICULTY IN MOVING THIS FORWARD. MM-HMM . UH, AND, UH, WE HAVE WORKED WITH, WITH THE CONTRACTOR TO, TO, UH, TRY TO WORK THROUGH SOME OF THOSE ISSUES. UM, WE'RE JUST CONCERNED THAT THERE'S STILL LIABILITY FOR THE CITY THAT, UM, NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED SOMEHOW AND, AND, UH, KIND OF STUCK AT THAT POINT, I GUESS IS THE BEST WAY TO DESCRIBE IT. MM-HMM . OKAY. UM, CITY ATTORNEY'S GOING, RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT. HAVE YOU GOT ANY SPECIFIC CONCERNS, UM, OR THAT JU JUST, UM, FROM THE LEGAL PERSPECTIVE, UM, WHEN A CONTRACTOR STARTS A A PROJECT, THEY OWN THAT AREA. WE ACTUALLY TURN OVER ALL CONTROL TO THEM. UH, TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. WHAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO IS RELEASE THE CONTRACTOR FROM LIABILITY FOR THE 24 HOUR PERIOD OF THIS EVENT. UM, AND THAT LIABILITY WOULD BE PUT ON US, BUT WITH A, UH, HOLD HARMLESS AND INDEMNIFY SIGNATURE, THEN THAT WOULD MEAN THAT VISION CULTURE WOULD BE ASSISTING [00:40:01] US. MM-HMM . IF THERE WERE ANY INCIDENTS THAT RESULTED IN POTENTIAL LITIGATION OR LITIGATION. OKAY. UM, OKAY. I THINK WITH IT'S, IT'S ONLY TWO AND A HALF WEEKS AWAY, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, LIGHTNING SPEED AND GOVERNMENT TIME. UH, THE, UH, UM, SO I, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE REALLY READY AT THIS POINT TO APPROVE IT, THE TUP ITSELF BECAUSE OF ALL THE HOLES IN IT, BUT SINCE WE DON'T HAVE A MEETING BETWEEN NOW AND THEN, UH, MAY I SUGGEST THAT WE WOULD GIVE DISCRETION TO OUR CITY MANAGER, UH, THAT ONCE UH, STAFF IS COMFORTABLE AT THAT POINT, THEN THE, UH, TUP COULD MOVE FORWARD. THIS IS A POSSIBLE SOLUTION. YEAH. UM, THANK YOU, MAYOR. YOU KNOW, UH, I KNOW, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER BUSH WANTS TO SAY A FEW WORDS. OH, YEAH. OKAY. UM, BUT, BUT I DO HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS, AND I KNOW, UM, SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS WERE ADDRESSED DURING MY ME, UH, BRIEFING. UM, AND, UM, THE CONCLUSION OF THAT WAS THIS IDEA THAT IT WOULD BE UP TO THE DISCRETION OF THE CITY MANAGER AS WE APPROACH THIS DEADLINE TO, UM, YOU KNOW, DETERMINE WHETHER, YOU KNOW, THE RISK WAS, YOU KNOW, FINE TO TAKE AS FAR AS THE LIABILITY TO THE CITY FOR THIS EVENT. AND, AND I THINK IT, THAT WOULD BE THE BEST COURSE OF ACTION. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM, UH, MEMBER BUSH, UM, THROUGH THE MAYOR. OKAY. MEMBER BUSH. YEAH. SO I DON'T KNOW IF, UM, THERE WE HAD ANY OTHER SPEAKERS OR, OR STAFF, BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE US TO APPROVE THIS. WHAT THIS DOES IS THIS MAKES A CITY SPONSORED EVENT. THIS IS ONCE IN A LIFETIME EVENT, UM, COMING TO NATIONAL CITY. LET'S ALSO THINK OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL, THE BENEFITS, THE, UH, OPPORTUNITY TO BRING RESTORATION TO AN AREA THAT, UM, HAS BEEN HIT WITH GRAFFITI THAT HASN'T BEEN PAID ATTENTION TO A LOT. UM, SO OF COURSE THERE'S, THERE'S RISK. THERE'S RISK WITH A LOT OF WHAT WE DO. BUT LET'S NOT FORGET ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY HERE. SO, VISION CULTURE FOUNDATION HAS BEEN AN EXCELLENT PARTNER WITH US ON A PROJECT, UH, ON THE PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING. UH, OUR STAFF, INCLUDING MY STAFF, I WANNA GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO DANIEL GONZALEZ'S WORKED TIRELESSLY ON THIS. AND, UH, YEAH, IT'S COMING UP FAST. UM, WE GOT A INITIAL PRESENTATION ABOUT IT. WE SAW SOME RENDERINGS. UH, CAL CALTRANS HAS BEEN SUPPORTIVE AND HAS WALKED THROUGH WITH US. SO THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF, UH, PARTNER AGENCY SUPPORT ON THIS. AND SO THERE'S STILL SOME DETAILS TO WORK, UH, TO WORK OUT. I'M VERY CONFIDENT OUR STAFF AND OUR CITY MANAGER CAN WORK IT OUT. BUT I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE US TO STICK TO THIS, UM, AUTHORIZATION AND WHAT THIS MOTION AND AUTHORIZATION DOES. I, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO, UM, SAY, OH, GIVE THE CITY MANAGER TO THE AUTHORITY TO PULL THE PLUG, BECAUSE I THINK HE CAN ALREADY DO THAT LEGALLY ANYWAY. IF, IF A TERM OF THE TUP IS NOT MET, HE CAN DO THAT ANYWAY. SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR, IT'S COVERAGE OF THE LIABILITY, WHICH MAKES SENSE, RIGHT? BECAUSE, UM, ON THE, ON ANY CONSTRUCTION SITE, AS OUR, UH, CITY ATTORNEY, UH, REVIEWED, THEY THE LEGALLY TAKE OWNERSHIP OF THAT SITE. AND SO WHAT WE WOULD BE DOING IS ALLOWING SOME INCURSION INTO THAT CONSTRUCTION SITE BY THOSE VOLUNTEERS, WHICH VISION CULTURES ALREADY AGREED TO THOSE WAIVERS THAT REQUIREMENT. AND WE COULD READ THAT INTO THE MOTION, BUT I THINK THAT'S ALREADY IN THE STAFF REPORT, THAT THEIR VOLUNTEERS WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR WAIVERS. SO THAT GREATLY REDUCES, UH, THE LIABILITY. UM, AND THEN SOME OF THE OTHER ISSUES WITH CALTRANS, UM, WE HAVE THAT THE PERMIT IS ALREADY DONE. WHAT ISN'T DONE IS WHETHER THESE CAN BE PERMANENT FIXTURES, AND THAT COULD BE COMPLETED AT A LATER DATE. I TALKED TO CALTRANS. AND SO THE ISSUE THERE IS WE JUST AS A, AS A BODY, HAVE TO WRITE A LETTER TO CALTRANS REQUESTING THAT THAT ARTWORK BE A PERMANENT FIXTURE. AND THAT'S BEEN DONE IN THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO AND BARRIO LOGAN WITH, UH, UH, CHICANO PARKS. I THINK, UH, THAT COULD BE TAKEN CARE OF OUR STAFF, UM, IN PUBLIC WORKS. AND I, UH, DO APPRECIATE OUR, UM, OUR PUBLIC WORKS, UH, STAFF AS STEVE ELLO, MARTHA JUAREZ, UM, UH, HAVE, HAVE GAVE GIVEN, UH, UH, A, UH, OUTLINE OF THE SITE THAT, UM, AVOIDS, LIKE IN TERMS OF THE PUBLIC, UM, IT, IT STEERS IT AWAY. IT'S ON, UH, WILSON IS WHERE, UM, THE ACTIVITIES WOULD GO. SO OVERALL, I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE US MORE TO NOT, LET'S NOT JUST LOOK AT THE LIABILITY AND BE FEARFUL, UM, OPERATE FROM A PLACE OF FEAR WHEN THERE'S THESE EVENTS, UM, THAT COME INTO OUR COMMUNITY. UM, LET'S BE PROACTIVE. LET'S INVITE THESE THINGS. LET'S, LET'S BE MORE BOLD AND DO SOME, SOME DIFFERENT THINGS. UM, THAT, UH, BRINGS, UM, SOME INTEREST AND EXCITEMENT TO NATIONAL CITY, NOT JUST FOR OUR RESIDENTS FOR, BUT FOR PEOPLE OUTSIDE AND, UH, POTENTIAL BEAUTIFICATION. SO, UM, [00:45:01] SO, SO THE, I'M NOT TRYING TO DISMISS ANY OF THE, UH, ISSUES BECAUSE THEY'RE ABSOLUTELY LEGITIMATE WHAT HEIDI AND, UH, WHAT DOUG HAVE BROUGHT UP. BUT THERE'S, UH, THERE'S, THERE'S SOLUTIONS TO, TO THESE ISSUES, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE, UH, BENEFITS. SO, UM, YEAH, SO THAT'S JUST MY INITIAL THOUGHT. , I HAVE A SPEAKER. OKAY. SORRY. AND THEN WE'LL HOLD OFF ON THAT. UH, EDWARD NATO IN OUR CITY'S IN THE MOST VULNERABLE SPOT POSSIBLY. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A BUDGET DEFICIT. RISK IS HIGH, AND ANYTIME THERE'S RISK INVOLVED RIGHT NOW, WE SHOULD REALLY AVOID IT. BUT I UNDERSTAND WHAT, UH, COUNCILMAN BUSH IS SAYING ABOUT THAT. WE HAVE TO KEEP AN OPEN MIND ALSO, UH, UNDERSTAND THAT THERE HAS TO BE SOME OPPORTUNITIES AND SOME BRIGHT SPOTS IN THE CITY. UM, I'VE SEEN, HEARD THE ARGUMENT BEAUTIFICATION TO NATIONAL CITY, AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT ARGUMENT. I'VE SEEN THE, THE MURALS, AND I THINK THEY'RE GREAT. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I ALSO HEARD IN THE PAST WAS THERE WAS A COST BENEFIT TO SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT WE WERE GONNA SAVE MONEY BY, UH, AVOIDING SOME OF THE, UH, GRAFFITI AREAS. AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS A GREAT ARGUMENT. I, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS SAID ALONG THOSE LINES, THAT THERE WERE SOME ANALYSIS THAT WAS DONE, AND I'VE ASKED REPEATEDLY, WHERE IS THAT ANALYSIS? AND I HAVE THE FEELING THAT, UH, THERE IS COST BENEFIT, BUT I DON'T THINK THE PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING THE WORK KNOW HOW TO PROVIDE OR COME UP WITH ANALYSIS TO PROVE THEIR POINT, YOU KNOW, THE BEFORE AND AFTER. AND HOW IS IT GONNA SAVE MONEY? WHERE'S THE HOURS? YOU KNOW, IT'S GREAT THAT PEOPLE SAY THAT IT IS GONNA HELP, BUT I WANT, I WOULD PREFER TO SEE THE HARD EVIDENCE TO SHOW THAT IT IS BEFORE YOU COMMIT ANY SORT OF RESOURCES. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA ASK OUR DEAR REPRESENTATIVE THERE FROM VISION QUEST. YEAH. YOU KNOW, UH, VISION CULTURE FOUNDATION, OR VISION CULTURE, I SAID DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT GROUP VISION QUEST SOUNDS INTERESTING TOO. YEAH. YEAH. THAT, THAT'S A DIFFERENT GROUP. I'M SORRY. I, I'M ALSO HERE, UM, MARCUS BUSH'S ASSISTANT DANIEL GONZALEZ WITH RJ. UM, WE'RE JUST HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. WE KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, THINGS THAT WE STILL NEED TO COVER FOR THE TUP, BUT, UH, WE ARE WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH CALTRANS, WITH CITY STAFF. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET ALL THESE COVERED UP, ALL THESE OFF HOLDS COVERED UP AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. SO WE'RE CLEAR. SO THERE'S NOT A PERMIT YET. ARENA SIGN OFF FROM CALTRANS YET, IS THERE AS OF YET? NO, WE DON'T HAVE A SIGN OFF FROM CALTRANS. OKAY. UM, STILL WORKING WITH THEM CLOSELY FROM WHAT THEY'VE TOLD ME. I'VE PROVIDED EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED TO CUT IT TO SATISFY THE PERMITTING. WE'RE JUST WAITING ON THEIR END TO HEAR THE LAST WORD. OKAY. ADD TO THAT ALSO. AND THE REASON WHY THEY, THEY HAVEN'T SIGNED OFF IS BECAUSE THIS IS A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY. THIS IS NOT OH, YEAH. THIS IS NOT, UH, PERMANENT PUBLIC ART. THIS IS PART OF AN ART FESTIVAL. EXCUSE ME. THIS IS PART OF AN ART FESTIVAL. IT'S AN INTERNATIONAL ART FESTIVAL. IT'S LIKE A ONCE IN A LIFETIME. THEY'RE, THEY'RE WEIGHING THAT, JUST LIKE MARCUS MENTIONED EARLIER MM-HMM . THEY'RE WEIGHING THAT AND THEY'RE TRYING TO COME UP WITH A SPECIAL LIKE DISPENSATION SO THAT WE CAN GET THIS DONE. SO THAT'S WHERE, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON WITH THEM. OKAY. AS FAR AS THE INSURANCE, THE, UH, I, I GOT THE INFORMATION TODAY FOR THE CERTIFICATE OF INSURANCE. WE'LL, WE HAVE NO PROBLEM IN THE LAST EVENT. UM, AS FAR AS RENDERINGS, I HAVE A FULL LIST OF ALL THE, ALL THE INTERNATIONAL ARTISTS THAT ARE COMING OUT HERE. AND I HAVE SOME RENDERINGS FROM THEM, BUT WE'RE STILL TWO AND A HALF WEEKS OUT, SO A LOT OF THEM HAVEN'T COMPLETED MM-HMM . UM, BUT THEY HAVE STRICT GUIDELINES. I CAN GO THROUGH THOSE GUIDELINES WITH YOU GUYS IF YOU'D LIKE. MM-HMM . I CAN ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. YEAH, NO, YOUR WORK HAS ALWAYS BEEN FANTASTIC. SO A PART OF IT. SO FOR EXAMPLE, UH, I THINK OUR CITY ATTORNEY BROUGHT UP LIKE ONE OF THE ISSUES LIKE PROFANITY OR, UM, COPYRIGHT LAWS FOR EXAMPLE. RIGHT. UM, BECAUSE IT'S A COMIC CON EVENT. SO IF THERE'S LIKE MAKING SURE THERE'S A YEAH. HEIDI, CAN YOU LIKE KINDA BROUGHT THAT UP, RIGHT? YEAH. FOR THE MOCKUPS, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S TWO ISSUES, UH, APPROPRIATENESS, RIGHT. AND THE OTHER WILL BE A COPYRIGHT TRADEMARK. TRADEMARK INFRINGEMENT. SO, UM, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOUR GUIDELINES MIGHT ADDRESS THAT. YES. YES, MA'AM. UM, BASICALLY, UH, THERE WILL BE NO WORDS. THERE'S, SO THERE'S NO CHANCE FOR PROFANITY THERE. WHAT, WHAT THE THEME THAT WE GOT ARE, UM, CARTOON, WE GOT THE CARTOON WALLS 'CAUSE IT IS A COMIC CON SPONSORED EVENT. MM-HMM . UM, UH, SO THOSE ARE THE GUIDELINES. UH, THEY HAVE TO DO CHARACTERS LIKE FAMOUS CARTOON CHARACTERS, BEAUTIFUL SETTINGS, STUFF LIKE THAT. UM, WHAT WAS THE OTHER QUESTION? I'M SORRY. UM, TRADEMARK AND COPYRIGHT. IN OTHER WORDS, EVEN IF YOU'RE DOING THOSE RIGHT [00:50:01] CHARACTERS, DO WE HAVE, UM, THE ABILITY TO SAY WE'RE NOT VIOLATING COPYRIGHT LOTS? YES. YES. WE'VE TALKED TO COMIC-CON ABOUT THAT. AND THEY MENTIONED THAT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT CHARGING, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT MAKING MONEY OFF OF THE IMAGES. WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, PAYING PEOPLE TO COME LOOK AT IT LIKE IT'S A MUSEUM OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. OR USING IT FOR ADVERTISEMENT. RIGHT, RIGHT. YEAH. WE'RE NOT USING IT FOR ANYTHING. IT'S JUST PUBLIC ART. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO THAT, THAT, THAT CAN HAPPEN ALL DAY, EVERY DAY. NOW, UH, ORIGINALLY I KNOW YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT DOING BOTH 18TH AND 19TH 'CAUSE THEY'RE, BUT NOW WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT 18TH. IS THAT WHAT THE DEAL IS? UM, YEAH, NO, WE'RE GONNA TRY TO WORK SOMETHING OUT TO WHERE, UM, 'CAUSE WE HAVE HIRED SECURITY FOR THE EVENT. MM-HMM. SO WE'RE TRYING TO CONTROL, YOU GUYS BLESSED US AND GAVE US 17TH TO 18TH AND WILSON MM-HMM . YOU KNOW, BLOCKED OFF SO THAT WE CAN KEEP THE PUBLIC UP THERE. UM, WE UNDERSTAND IT'S A CONSTRUCTION ZONE. THAT'S WHY WE WERE THINKING ABOUT CONTROLLING ACCESS TO, JUST TO THE, UH, THE AREA WHERE THE WALLS ARE. UM, THEY WOULD HAVE LIKE LANYARDS, WRISTBANDS, THEY WOULD BE VETTED AHEAD OF TIME. THERE WOULD BE A LIST OF NAMES AND UM, THEY WOULD COME, LIKE, IT WOULD JUST BE THE PEOPLE, THE ARTISTS THAT WOULD BE GOING INTO THAT AREA TO COMPLETE THE WORK. SO ONLY, SO IN, IN REFERENCE TO 19TH STREET? YES MA'AM. IF YOU'RE REFERRING TO 19TH STREET AND THE WALLS ON THE, UH, OVERPASS, THOSE WOULD BE ACCESSIBLE ONLY TO THE ARTISTS. ONLY TO THE ARTISTS, YEAH. OKAY. THAT, THAT WOULD SIGN WAIVERS. ANY WAIVER, LIKE WAIVERS WITH THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY, WAIVERS WITH THE CITY. AND WE WOULD CONTROL, LIKE SECURITY WOULD CONTROL THE ACCESS POINT. WE WOULD, WE WOULD BE, WE WOULD BE THERE THE ENTIRE TIME THEY WOULD BE ON THE SITE. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UM, OKAY. UH, ADIDAS, UH, YOU HAD, UM, YOU, UM, THANK YOU MAYOR. UM, THANK YOU. THE RJ YOU KNOW, I, I, UH, SUPPORT THIS, BUT WHEN I HEARD THROUGH MY BRIEFING THE LIABILITY EXPOSURE THAT THE CITY IS GOING TO BE, UM, TO BE, UM, UNDER, I, I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN YOU, YOU ANSWERED ABOUT THE MOCKUPS, YOU KNOW, THE RENDERING APPROVALS, UM, TRADEMARK AND ALL THAT YOU ANSWERED ABOUT INSURANCE. YOU ANSWERED ABOUT, UM, WAIVERS, UM, VOLUNTEERS HAD TO SIGN A WAIVER. CALTRANS, YOU KNOW, IS A BIG IF, IF WE ARE GONNA GET THAT. UM, AND THEN THE THING THOUGH THAT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT IS IT IS AN ACTIVE CONSTRUCTION SITE ON 19TH STREET SITE. YEAH. ON 19TH STREET. YEAH. I WENT THERE. UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, DROVE, YOU KNOW, MEAN I DRIVE AROUND THE CITY, RIGHT. AND I WENT THERE JUST TO BE, JUST TO HAVE AN OCULAR OF THE, THE LOCATION. I WISH THERE'S NO CONSTRUCTION THERE RIGHT NOW. AND I WILL, WITH TWO HANDS, I WILL SAY, LET'S DO IT. BUT BECAUSE OF THAT, THE LIABILITY, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IS ARE YOU OKAY WITH RELOCATING THE LOCATION THOUGH? UM, DITAS, I APPRECIATE THAT. UM, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE SITE WHERE THEY MADE THE CUTS, WE, WE'VE BEEN DOWN THERE SEVERAL TIMES AS WELL TO, TO LOOK AT THE SITE. UM, THEY, THEY CUT, THEY HAVE A PERFECT CUT. THEY'RE NOT GONNA TOUCH THE SIDEWALKS. THE WALLS ARE ATTACHED TO THE SIDEWALKS. THERE'S PLENTY OF CLEARANCE. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IT WOULD JUST BE FOR THOSE ARTISTS FOR THAT TIME PERIOD. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? THAT THAT'S THE ONLY LIABILITY. THERE'D BE NO PUBLIC DOWN THERE. 'CAUSE IF YOU GO DOWN THERE RIGHT NOW, IT'S NOT VERY SECURE. THERE'S PEOPLE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ARE WALKING IN AND OUT OF IT ALL DAY LONG. LIKE WHEN WE'RE DOWN THERE SURVEYING THE SITE, THERE'S JUST PEOPLE GOING IN AND OUT ALL DAY. SO THE LIABILITY'S ALREADY KIND OF THERE, BUT THIS WOULD BE A SPECIFIC SITUATION WHERE THESE ARTISTS ARE, ARE FLYING IN FROM ARGENTINA, FRANCE, LIKE ALL OVER THE WORLD TO COME HERE. AND I HAVE A FULL LIST. SO I, I COULD GIVE THAT TO YOU GUYS. YOU COULD LOOK THEM UP. THEY'RE INCREDIBLE. UM, BUT WE WOULD HAVE THEM SIGN WAIVERS. WE WOULD CONTROL THE ACCESS, YOU KNOW, NOT, NOT EVEN PUT THAT ON THE CITY OR THE CONSTRUCTION. WE HAVE A PRIVATE SECURITY FIRM THAT, THAT WE WOULD HIRE. THEY WOULD CONTROL ACCESS. LIKE I SAID, IT'S KIND OF AN IN AND OUT THING. THE ARTISTS WOULD GO IN, THEY, ALL THEY NEED IS ARMS LENGTH FROM THE WALL TO PAINT. THAT'S ALL YOU NEED. YOU JUST NEED ENOUGH. WHERE WILL THE PEOPLE BE THOUGH? THE PEOPLE ARE UP TOP ON 17TH. SO THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING LIKE, YOU GUYS BLESSED US GIVING US THAT EXTRA AREA ON WILSON. WE'RE ON WILSON AVENUE AND 17TH. I WISH I HAD A, UP IN WILSON. THE ONLY, THE ONLY BODIES THAT WOULD BE DOWN THERE WOULD BE A HANDFUL OF ARTISTS THAT ARE, THAT ARE WORKING ON THEIR WORK. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? AND THEY'RE NOT GOING IN AND OUT. THEY'RE STANDING IN FRONT OF THEIR, THEIR PIECE. THEY'RE DOING THEIR WORK, AND THEN THEY'RE LEAVING. OKAY. AND, AND WE HAVE TWO AND A HALF WEEKS. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, SO IF ALL THIS, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, LIABILITY EXPOSURE WILL BE, WILL BE, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WILL MITIGATED OR AT LEAST REMOVED. YEAH. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I WOULD GIVE MY CONFIDENCE TO MY, MY CITY MANAGER AND AND HE WILL, HE WILL HAVE, YES. AND PLEASE, IF HE SAYS, WE'RE NOT A GOAL, WE RELOCATE, PLEASE LISTEN. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO? THERE'S TWO AND A HALF WEEKS, MAYBE WE CAN LOOK AT THINGS, RIGHT? YES. I'LL BE THERE WITH YOU. RIGHT. [00:55:01] I'M, I'M GONNA MAKE SURE, RIGHT. BECAUSE I WANT THIS DONE. IT'S AN INTERNATIONAL THING. I GOOGLED IT, RIGHT? YEAH. IT'S LIKE A ONCE IN A LIFETIME. ONE, TWO O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING WHEN I, BECAUSE I STUDY MY AGENDA, RIGHT? AND SO I, I, I WANTED THIS TO HAPPEN, BUT I WANTED IT TO HAPPEN CORRECTLY AND WITHOUT NO LIABILITY NOR ANY, ANY, YEAH. UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, PEOPLE HURT. WE DO TOO. LIKE WE, WE, WE HAVE AN INCREDIBLE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CITY. THE LAST THING WE WANT IS, IS ANY TYPE OF LIABILITY OR ANY SITUATIONS, THIS IS STRICTLY ABOUT BEAUTIFYING THAT AREA. THAT'S IT. ALL WE WANT DO IS, AND I'M THERE WITH YOU. I'M THERE WITH YOU. RIGHT. BUT THE PARTY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. THERE WILL BE NOBODY DOWN IN THAT AREA. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? OKAY. THERE WILL BE NOBODY DOWN THERE WALKING AROUND. I, I WILL NOT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I WILL GIVE THE, THE, MY, MY, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN MY CONFIDENCE TO THE CITY MANAGER TO MAKE SURE THAT HE ASSESS, YOU KNOW, I, IN THIS LIABILITY AND EXPOSURE TO ANYTHING MM-HMM . UM, THAT IF, THAT, THAT CAN BE MITIGATED OR REMOVED. OKAY. OF COURSE. OF COURSE. SO THAT WOULD BE MY, MY SUPPORT. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU RJ AND, UH, MR. KIM FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL OF THE WORK SO FAR. AND, AND I KNOW THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE STARS WILL ALIGN, HOPEFULLY, AND IT IS GONNA GO OFF PERFECTLY. UM, BUT OBVIOUSLY I SHARE THE CONCERN, UM, THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, MY, THAT, THAT, THAT I'M RESPONSIBLE FOR, RIGHT? WE ARE IN THIS SEAT BECAUSE WE HAVE TO HAVE THESE CONCERNS AND WE HAVE TO HAVE THESE QUESTIONS AND WE HAVE TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, WEIGH THE BENEFITS AND THE RISKS. UM, SO MS. ANII ADDRESSED ALL OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAD REGARDING THE, THE CONSTRUCTION SITE. UM, BUT NOW I WANNA ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THE FESTIVAL PIECE. UM, AND I'M SO HAPPY, MR. KIM, THAT YOU'RE WEARING THAT MEXICO SHIRT BECAUSE PRECISELY RIGHT NOW, PRECISELY RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, THIS, UH, AMAZING EVENT. IT'S HAPPENING FAR FROM HERE, BUT MORE THAN LIKELY, UM, WE ARE GOING TO EXPERIENCE MAYBE A VERY CELEBRATORY TIME ON HIGHLAND BOULEVARD, RIGHT? UM, AND SO THESE TYPES OF THINGS BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER. AND MOST OF THE TIME IT'S VERY JOYFUL AND IT'S A WONDERFUL THING. BUT WE ALSO DO KNOW THERE IS A PUBLIC SAFETY ASPECT TO IT SOMETIMES, RIGHT? AND WE DO HAVE, YOU KNOW, UM, TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT PEOPLE MIGHT WANT TO EXTRA CELEBRATE WHATEVER THAT MIGHT MEAN. YOU KNOW, UM, IF I CAN BE SPECIFIC ABOUT AN EXAMPLE, WHEN WE DO HAVE, UM, FOLKS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, DOING THINGS OUT ON THIS, ON THE, WHENEVER THEY THERE, THERE'S A LOW RIDER EVENT OR SOMETHING, AND, AND THERE ARE FOLKS OUT ON THE STREETS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, NOT, THEY'RE BREAKING THE RULES AND THEY'RE OUT ON THE STREET AND THEY'RE DOING THINGS THAT THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE DOING. THAT IS A CONCERN. BURNOUT, RIGHT? THANK YOU. MAYOR , OR I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE CAUSING FIGHTS OR SOMETHING, RIGHT? IT DOESN'T, I'M NOT TALKING THAT, I'M NOT SAYING THAT. AND APPLYING THAT TO THE MAJORITY OF THE FOLKS THAT LIKE TO CELEBRATE IN THIS WAY. I'M SPEAKING TO THE FEW THAT DECIDE TO ACT THIS WAY AND THEN IT BECOMES A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE. SO THE REASON I'M SAYING THAT IS SIMPLY BECAUSE WE HAVE A GAME GOING ON TONIGHT, AND IT'S LIKELY, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN TODAY. UH, HOPEFULLY MEXICO WINS. BUT, UH, NO, NO, NO OFFENSE TO OUR ECUADORIAN FOLKS OUT THERE. UM, BUT, UM, I JUST WANNA REITERATE, YOU KNOW, THE PIECE ABOUT THE FESTIVAL AT THIS LOCATION ON THIS DAY, I WOULD LOVE FOR THIS TO BE A FANTASTIC EVENT WHERE PUBLIC SAFETY IS TOP OF MIND AND FOLKS ARE THERE TO CELEBRATE AND ENJOY THE BEAUTIFUL ART THAT IS BEING CREATED BEFORE THEIR EYES. AND EVERYBODY IS DOING THEIR BEST TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS ENJOYMENT ALL ACROSS, YOU KNOW, THE, THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE DAY, UM, WITHOUT CAUSING TROUBLE, WITHOUT CAUSING PROBLEMS. UM, THAT WOULD BE PERFECT. RIGHT? AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK AND, AND, AND TALK ABOUT THE INCREDIBLE SUCCESS THAT THIS WILL BE. THAT WOULD BE MY EXPECTATION. YEP. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN. PERFECT. IT'S A CELEBRATION OF BEAUTY THAT'S LIKE, THAT'S IT, IT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD. AWESOME. SO, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IT'S, IT'S, IT'S ACTIVATING, UH, A CULTURAL ARTS DISTRICT OVERNIGHT. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? THAT'S REALLY WHAT IT'S ABOUT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YEAH. I APPRECIATE WHAT, UM, COUNCILMAN BUSH SAID EARLIER THAT, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WE NEED TO TAKE RISKS AND SOMETIMES WE CAN KIND OF REACH OUT. AND I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, UH, IN ALL MY YEARS UP HERE, WE'VE DONE A LOT OF TS, A LOT OF 'EM, AND I DON'T THINK WE'VE EVER HAD ONE LIKE THIS THAT HAD IN THIS SHORT OF TIME PERIOD AND HAD THIS MANY QUESTIONS STILL UNANSWERED. YEAH. AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO MAKE THIS THING HAPPEN, RIGHT? RIGHT. SO WE ARE, WE ARE TAKING SOME, SOME RISK WITH THIS TO EVEN MOVE AHEAD WITH IT AT THIS STAGE. AND WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT, UH, 'CAUSE NORMALLY WITH, WITH CALTRANS, IT'S TO, TO DO AN ART OF ANY KIND, IT'S NORMALLY ABOUT A SIX MONTH PROCESS. 'CAUSE THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THEIR ART COMMITTEE [01:00:01] AND THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL YEAH. WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM ON A FEW OTHER EVENTS. YEAH. IT, IT'S A PROCESS. SO, YOU KNOW, THEY, I KNOW THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE TRYING TO, TO CUT CORNERS AND EVERYTHING ELSE TO MAKE THIS THING HAPPEN. AND, UH, BUT YEAH, I GOTTA AGREE. I THINK, UH, AS WE, UH, AS YOU GUYS TRY TO PULL ALL THIS STUFF TOGETHER HERE IN THIS NEXT TWO AND A HALF WEEKS, HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET ALL THE PIECES TOGETHER. AND I THINK AT THAT POINT THEN THAT WOULD GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY MANAGER, UH, TO USE HIS DISCRETION AT THAT POINT, UH, TO MOVE THIS THING FORWARD. WE ALL WANT THIS TO HAPPEN. AND, UH, UH, AND IF I COULD JUST ADD, JUST DON'T FORGET THE FACT THAT LIKE, IN, IN POTENTIALLY ONE DAY, ALL THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE OF, OF WALL SPACE THAT GETS, YOU KNOW, VANDALIZED CONSTANTLY. THAT'S A LOT OF SQUARE FOOTAGE, THAT'S A LOT OF FREE ART. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? AND IT'S FROM THE BEST ARTISTS IN THE WORLD. SO JUST DON'T FORGET THAT WELL, AND OF COURSE THE OTHER THING IS IT'S VERY HARD. PEOPLE GETTING CALTRANS TO SAY TO LEAVE, BE ABLE TO LEAVE IT UP THERE IS ANOTHER THING. YEAH. 'CAUSE YOU GOTTA STILL, EVEN IF YOU GET THEIR PERMISSION TO PUT IT UP THERE FOR YOU TO LEAVE IT UP, THERE IS A DIFFERENT STORY. AND, UH, BUT, BUT MAYOR, THEY'VE, BUT AGAIN, THEY'VE DONE THAT BEFORE. UM, YEAH. THEY, THEY'VE DONE THAT. THEY'VE DONE THAT BEFORE. WELL, YEAH. BUT I'M JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ALL, ALL SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT ARE, OF COURSE, IN AHEAD OF YOUR, HERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS, THERE'S CHALLENGES AND WE, AND WE KNOW YOU GUYS ARE UP TO IT. YEAH. WE'RE ON IT. AND, UH, BUT WHEN YOU GET FINISHED WITH THIS SITE, I GOT ANOTHER SITE FOR YOU. ALL RIGHT. THAT I THINK WOULD BE A LOT EASIER THAN THIS ONE . SO LET'S MAKE IT HAPPEN. YES MA'AM. OKAY. PLEASE. BUT, UH, WORK WITH OUR CITY MANAGER. WE WANT THIS TO HAPPEN. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU GUYS. SO DO WE, DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR, I THINK WE, WE NAMED IT TWO 16. I'LL, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE TWO P AND WITH THAT, IF, UM, IF THERE'S AN, UH, AN ISSUE, UH, THAT ARISES, AND I ALREADY THINK THE CITY MANAGER HAS THIS ABILITY, BUT I COULD STATE IN THE MOTION THAT THE CITY MANAGER, YOU KNOW, CAN, CAN CANCEL IT IF THERE'S A SERIOUS ISSUE THAT ARISES. BUT I, THAT THE CITY MANAGER, UH, COMMUNICATES WITH THE COUNCIL, UH, UM, IF THAT HAPPENS. SO, BUT OTHERWISE, I'LL, UM, APPROVE THE TWO P WITH THAT. I SECOND THE MOTION. AND, UH, THANK YOU MEMBER BUSH FOR ALL OF YOUR WORK. THANK YOU, DANIEL, FOR ALL OF YOUR WORK. OKAY. SO THIS IS, OH, AND, AND THE OTHER THING, AND THE OTHER THING I'LL SAY TOO, SO I KNOW LIABILITY. LIABILITY. SO WE SAY THAT A LOT AND THAT EXISTS AND, BUT IT EXISTS ALL THE TIME. AND I DON'T WANT LIABILITY. AND I SEE THIS AS A CULTURAL ISSUE THAT I'M TRYING TO CHANGE WITH OUR ORGANIZATION, THE CULTURE OF A KNEE JERK REACTION OF SAYING, NO, I, I THINK WE'RE GONNA SAY YES, AND I WANT US TO BE BOLD ABOUT THINGS BECAUSE THIS IS NOT AN UNTESTED CONCEPT. VISION, CULTURE WORKED WITH US ON OUR PUBLIC WORKS, UM, UH, BUILDING VISION, CULTURE ALSO. AND YOU GUYS, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS WEREN'T ABLE TO SHOW UP, BUT I WAS THERE AND I WISH, I THINK YOU ALL WOULD FEEL A LITTLE BIT BETTER IF YOU WERE PRESENT AT, THEY'VE ALREADY KIND OF DONE THIS. NOW, THEY DIDN'T PAINT THE WALLS. AND YES, IT WASN'T AN ACTIVE CONSTRUCTION SITE, BUT THEY DID ORGANIZE, UH, SHUT DOWN THE STREET WITH, UM, PUBLIC WORKS, UM, ASSISTANCE. AND JUST WHEN WE SAY LIABILITY, LET'S THINK ABOUT WHAT SPECIFICALLY ARE WE WORRIED ABOUT. SO IT'S AN ACTIVE CONSTRUCTION SITE, IS EQUIPMENT EXPOSED IS, AND IF NO, THEN LIKE, LET'S, LET'S, AND THAT'S A MORE TECHNICAL ISSUE THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN TALKED ABOUT, BUT IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS, OUR PUBLIC WORK STAFF OR THROUGH OUR CITY MANAGER VISION CULTURE FOUNDATION, AND I'VE OFFERED, UM, YOU KNOW, MY STAFF DANIEL, UM, THAT, LIKE, LET'S IDENTIFY THOSE ISSUES AND THOSE CAN BE MITIGATED. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE CAN BE MITIGATED. THE WORLD'S NOT PERFECT. THINGS HAPPEN. THERE COULD BE AN EARTHQUAKE, THERE COULD BE A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAPPEN, BUT I THINK ALL OF US COLLECTIVELY HAVE DONE A, AN INCREDIBLE JOB WITH THIS VERY, UM, SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME, UM, YOU KNOW, MAKE, MAKING THINGS HAPPEN. SO I, UM, SO YEAH, THERE, I I DON'T WANNA DISMISS THE LIABILITY BECAUSE IT'S A CONCERN, BUT IT'S BEEN ADDRESSED. IT'S BEING ADDRESSED. AND IF THERE'S SPECIFIC, UH, UH, FEARS OR WORRIES, THEN LET'S, LET'S, LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT. BUT LET'S GIVE THE AUTHORITY TO MOVE IT FORWARD, AND THEN WE CAN GO FROM THERE. OKAY. SO LET ME ASK, IS THE MOTION FOR A, UH, A CONDITIONAL APPROVAL OF THE TUP? OR IS THIS JUST, I, WELL, I DIDN'T SAY CONDITIONAL. I SAID APPROVE THE TP. THAT'S, AND IF THERE'S AN ISSUE THAT ARISES THAT THE CITY MANAGER INFORMS US AND HAS THE ABILITY TO CANCEL, YEAH. I, YEAH, I, I DON'T WANNA WATER IT DOWN TOO MUCH. I'M JUST, I DON'T, AGAIN, I, I, I CAN'T SUPPORT THAT MOTION BECAUSE I SAY WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE BENDING OVER BACKWARDS TO MAKE THIS THING HAPPEN. WE WANT TO MAKE IT HAPPEN, BUT, OKAY, WELL THEN, BUT, BUT TO HAVE A-A-T-U-P WITH THIS MANY HOLES STILL IN IT TO APPROVE THE TUP WITH ALL THAT MANY HOLES, BUT THERE'S NOT THAT MANY HOLES. WE, I JUST WENT OVER THESE SPECIFIC ISSUES THAT WERE, THAT WE, THROUGH THE CHAIR, WORKED VERY HARD. WE'VE BEEN DILIGENT AND ADDRESSING COUNCIL MEMBER THROUGH THE CHAIR. YES. I THINK WE HAD, UH, GIVEN THE CITY MANAGER DIRECTION [01:05:01] TO WORK WITH THIS TEAM. AND WE ARE ALSO, I WILL SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WORKING WITH THEM. OH, YEAH. EXACTLY. AND SO WE, WE ARE ALL GONNA TRY TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. UH, RJ WHEN YOU CALL RJ RJS THERE, SO WHEN YOU CALL RJ, I AM THERE MM-HMM . BUT LET US MAKE SURE THAT THOSE CONCERNS ARE, ARE ADDRESSED. AND SO OUR CITY MANAGER WILL HAVE THAT, UM, WILL THAT AUTHORITY TO COME BACK TO US. OKAY. THANKS RJ. THANKS. THANKS. YOU GUYS READY TO VOTE? OR YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY? WE'RE OKAY. WELL, I GONNA HIT THE BUTTONS. THAT'S . OH, YEAH. NO BUTTONS. SORRY. VOICE. YOU'RE RIGHT. NO BUTTONS. OKAY. UH, ANYWAY. OKAY. IF WE COULD HAVE A, UH, ROLL CALL ON THE VOTE. DID I, I'M SORRY. DID I HAVE THE, OH, SORRY. THE, THE MOTION WAS BUSH AND THE SECOND WAS MOLINA. CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . COUNCIL MEMBER BUSH? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER YAMANI. AYE. VICE MAYOR MOLINA. YES. MAYOR MORRISON. REGRETFULLY, NO. MOTION APPROVED BY THREE TO ONE VOTE WITH MAYOR MORRISON. VOTING NO. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UM, NEXT WE GO ON TO MA MAYOR COLLEAGUES. I DO, I I HAD A HARD STOP AND I WANTED TO FINISH THAT ONE ITEM. I DO, I DO HAVE TO GET GOING. SO, YEAH, IT'S ONLY 10 30 THERE. WHAT'S THE BIG DEAL? ? NO, IT'S NOT 10. ALRIGHT. OH, IS IT? YEAH. YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT. YES IT IS. I'M LOOKING OUTTA CLOCK. ALRIGHT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UM, ALRIGHT. SO HE'LL BE SIGNING OFF NOW AT THIS POINT, UH, WITH THAT [7.1.Memorandum of Agreement with Community HousingWorks for the Paradise Creek Enhancement Project FY 2025-2029 Multi-Year Plan Utilizing Program Income] WE GO ON TO, UH, SEVEN ONE. THIS IS A MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT WITH COMMUNITY HOUSING WORKS FOR THE PARADISE CREEK ENHANCEMENT PROJECT IN THE MULTI-YEAR PLAN UTILIZING PROGRAM INCOME. AND I'M GONNA LOOK OVER TO OUR STAFF ON THIS ONE. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AND STAFF ANGEL DE PALMA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT MANAGER WITH THE NATIONAL CITY HOUSING AUTHORITY THIS EVENING. WE ALSO HAVE ON THE LINE FROM COMMUNITY HOUSING WORKS, FERNANDO FERNANDA ACEVES, UH, SENIOR DIRECTOR OF RESIDENT SERVICES IN JULIE RICE RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT ADVISOR. THIS EVENING, I'M PRESENTING ON THE CITY'S MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT WITH COMMUNITY HOUSING WORKS TO CARRY OUT THEIR PARADISE CREEK PROJECT ENHANCEMENT FISCAL YEAR 2025 THROUGH 2025 MULTI-YEAR PLAN FOR THEIR PARADISE CREEK PROJECTS TO PRIMARILY BENEFIT THE RESIDENTS OF PARADISE CREEK APARTMENTS. AND THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY ACTIVITIES WOULD INCLUDE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, SO CIPS AND COMMUNITY SERVING ACTIVITIES THAT ENG OUR ENGINEERING AND PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, AND OUR COMMUNITY SERVICE DEPARTMENT WOULD BE CARRYING OUT. TO GIVE YOU SOME BACKGROUND ON THESE FUNDS THAT COMMUNITY HOUSING WORKS IS INVESTING IN OUR COMMUNITY. SIMPLY PUT, BONDS WERE ISSUED TO THE DEVELOP FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF PARADISE CREEK APARTMENTS, PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO, ALONG WITH THE OPEN SPACE COMMUNITY HOUSING WORK, ACCEPTED THE BONDS UNDER THE CONDITION THAT THEY WOULD LEND THE FUNDS TO THE PROJECT. AND A LOAN REPAYMENT MUST BE MADE TOWARDS THE PROJECTS AND PROGRAMS IN IN THE COMMUNITY. CHW THEN WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND IN THEIR PUBLIC OUTREACH IN CREATING A MULTI-YEAR PLAN, COVERING A FIVE-YEAR PERIOD FOR THE USE OF THESE FUNDS FOR OUR COMMUNITY. AND THAT WAS PURSUANT TO THE GRANT AGREEMENTS THAT CHW WAS TO COMPLETE ANNUAL PLANS FOR THE USE OF THESE FUNDS EVERY YEAR. THE PLAN REPRESENTS COMPREHENSIVE, A COMPREHENSIVE AND COMM A COMMUNITY INFORMED STRATEGY. THE PLAN INCLUDES ONE TIME CIP FUNDS OF 1.57, UH, 1.57, $1.57 MILLION TO SPEND DOWN ACCUMULATED FUNDS TO FULFILL THE MULTI-YEAR PLAN AND LEVERAGE FUTURE FUNDS. SO, CHW THROUGH THEIR ANNUAL PLAN PROCESS, WILL GRANT FUNDS TO THE CITY'S COMMUNITY SERVICE DEPARTMENT TO IMPLEMENT PROJECT AND PROGRAM RELATED ACTIVITIES. STAFF WILL THEN RETURN TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL FOR FUTURE APPROPRIATIONS AND BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS. SO, WITH THAT, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER OR HIS DESIGNEE TO COMPLETE AN MOA WITH COMMUNITY HOUSING [01:10:01] WORKS TO CARRY OUT ACTIVITIES FOR THEIR MULTI-YEAR PLAN, AND AUTHORIZE THE ACCEPTANCE OF GRANT FUNDS FOR $1,000,570,000 AND APPROPRIATE, UH, THE APPROPRIATION CORRESPONDING REVENUE BUDGET FOR THOSE GRANT FUNDS. THE CIP PROJECTS WOULD BE SIGNIFICANT ONE-TIME INVESTMENTS IN THE COMMUNITY FOR INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS TO INCLUDE A PUBLIC RESTROOM FACILITIES AT PARADISE CREEK COMMUNITY PARK, UH, CA SALUTE FACILITY RENOVATIONS AND REHABILITATION, AND A SHADE STRUCTURE AND INSTALLATION AT THE PARADISE CREEK COMMUNITY GARDEN. SO WITH THAT, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. I CAN TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. UH, WE WON'T BE ABLE TO VOTE TILL WE GET, GET HER BACK THOUGH, BUT WE CAN, SHOULD BE BACK MOMENTARY. YEAH, YOU GO FOR DISCUSSION. UH, CAN I MAKE A COMMENT? YEAH, GO AHEAD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MS. UH, ANGELITA. I DON'T HAVE, UH, QUESTIONS. I HAD A VERY GOOD BRIEFING AND ALL OF THE INFORMATION IN THE REPORT WAS FANTASTIC. THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THAT, UH, INCLUDING ALL OF THAT. UH, I DO HAVE QUESTIONS, AND ACTUALLY THAT WAS PART OF WHAT MY BRIEFING WAS ABOUT, IS, UM, GETTING MORE DETAILED INFORMATION ABOUT THE ACTUAL PROJECTS. I AM VERY INTERESTED IN THE PIECE REGARDING, UH, CASA DE SAUD. UH, I KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY VERY INTERESTED IN, UM, CASA DE SALU AND THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT, YOU KNOW, NEED TO GO IN THERE. I'M VERY HAPPY TO HEAR THAT THERE ARE SOLID PLANS, YOU KNOW, TO IMPROVE THE PLUMBING I UNDERSTAND. AND, AND MANY OTHER THINGS THAT ARE IN DIRE NEED. SO, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, I'M GRATEFUL TO COMMUNITY HOUSING WORKS FOR THIS GRANT, UM, THAT'S GONNA GO A LONG WAY, NOT ONLY AT PARADISE CREEK APARTMENTS, BUT ALSO AT CASA DE SALU. SO I DON'T WANNA MISS THAT POINT STATING THAT POINT, BECAUSE THAT IS SUPER IMPORTANT TO THIS COMMUNITY. UM, AGAIN, THERE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SPECIFICS, BUT I KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THE SPECIFICS AREN'T QUITE SO DETAILED YET. THE INFORMATION IN THE REPORT, THOUGH IS SUFFICIENT. UM, AND I, I AM VERY HAPPY WITH THIS. THIS IS JUST GOOD NEWS ALL AROUND. I'M VERY, VERY HAPPY FOR ALL OF THIS. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND I AM IN SUPPORT OF THIS. UM, MAYOR, IF YOU'RE, WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN MAKE A MOTION RIGHT NOW. WE, WE CAN'T AT THE MOMENT, BUT, UM, YEAH, I, I AM VERY HAPPY WITH THIS. GOOD NEWS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND COMMUNITY HOUSING WORKS DID AN AMAZING JOB, UH, WITH THEIR PUBLIC OUTREACH, WHICH IS, UM, SOMEWHAT, WHICH IS DETAILED IN THE REPORT. AND WE DO HAVE, UH, JULIE AND FERNANDA, UH, ON THE LINE IF YOU HAD ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM. I DID SEE ONE OF THE ATTACHMENTS IN THE REPORT WAS THEIR OUTREACH AND ALL OF THE WORK THAT THEY DID. UH, I DON'T KNOW IF, I MEAN, WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME. I DON'T KNOW IF, UH, FERNANDA OR, UM, UH, THE OTHER MEMBER JULIE, UM, WANNA CHIME IN AND MAYBE OFFER A LITTLE BIT OF DETAIL TO SOME OF THEIR COMMUNITY OUTREACH. UM, I WOULD LOVE TO. THANK YOU. HI, JULIE. HI. HOW ARE Y'ALL TONIGHT? GOOD, GOOD, GOOD. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. UM, AND I JUST WANNA SAY IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE WORKING WITH THE CITY STAFF ON THIS. UM, WE DID EXTENSIVE OUTREACH TALKING TO RESIDENTS, NOT JUST AT PARADISE CREEK APARTMENTS, BUT THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY. AND, UM, RECEIVED A LOT OF FEEDBACK. UM, VERY IMPASSIONED FEEDBACK. IT WAS VERY STRIKING TO HEAR HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO EVERYONE TO LEVERAGE THE ASSETS THAT ARE ALREADY IN NATIONAL CITY, INCLUDING THE PARADISE CREEK EDUCATIONAL PARK AND CASA DE SALUTE. SO WE WERE THRILLED TO BE ABLE TO TURN THAT FEEDBACK INTO A CONCRETE PLAN THAT, UH, WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING, UH, TO SEEING IN ACTION. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MS. JULIE. UH, SO THANK YOU MS. ANI FOR COMING BACK TO US. MAYOR. I WOULD LOVE TO, I WOULD LOVE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION, UH, AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER OR EE TO, UH, EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT WITH COMMUNITY HOUSING WORKS FOR THE PARADISE CREEK ENHANCEMENT PROJECT, MULTI-YEAR PLAN FOR PROGRAM INCOME, AND TWO, AUTHORIZING THE ESTABLISHMENT OF AN APPROPRIATION AND CORRESPONDING REVENUE BUDGET IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,570,000, $70,000 IN THE BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH CITYWIDE FUND FOR THE PARADISE CREEK ENHANCEMENT PROJECT. UM, I HAD MY AGENDA UP ON MY SCREEN. THANK YOU, . I'M GIVING YOU AN OPPORTUNITY. SECOND MAY. OH, THERE YOU, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALRIGHT, SO WE HAVE [01:15:01] A MOTION AND A SECOND, UH, ON THAT. COULD WE, UH, UH, HAVE ROLL CALL PLEASE? MAY I BELIEVE YOU MAY HAVE A SPEAKER SLIP FOR THIS ITEM. THAT WAS JULIE RICE. NO, I THINK WE HAVE JANICE RENOSO, I BELIEVE, UH, 7.1. NOT ON THIS ONE. WE HAVE IT ON THE NEXT ONE. SEVEN TWO, WE MM-HMM . SEVEN ONE. YEAH. YEAH, SHE'S DOWN FOR THE NEXT ONE. SEVEN TWO. SHE BOTH, NO, SHE'S SAYING BOTH FOR SEVEN AND SEVEN TWO. I SHOULD BE AT SEVEN. ONE RECEIVE ONE ON SEVEN, ONE. OKAY. BUT GO AHEAD. YOU WANT TO COME AND SPEAK? GO AHEAD. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, CITY MANAGER. NICE TO MEET YOU. MY NAME IS JANICE RENOSO, LIFETIME RESIDENT OF NATIONAL CITY EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND FOUNDER OF MUNDO GARDENS, AND ALSO COOPERATOR OF THE PARADISE CREEK FAMILY GARDEN. UH, COLLABORATOR WITH PARADISE CREEK EDUCATIONAL PARK, INC. WE'RE THRILLED. WE'RE FINALLY GETTING OUR SHADE STRUCTURE. WE HAVE A WONDERFUL PARTNERSHIP WITH COMMUNITY HOUSING WORKS. A PORTION OF THE FUNDS TO OPERATE THE COMMUNITY GARDEN IS GOING MONTHLY TO, UM, PROVIDE A PORTA POTTY, AN A DA ACCESSIBLE PORTA POTTY. WE'VE CONSIDERED THAT, WAITED IT OUT AND KNEW THAT THAT WAS A PRIORITY. WITH THAT SAID, IT'S GONNA BE A GOOD THING FOR OUR BUDGET, FOR THE COMMUNITY IN GENERAL, TO HAVE A BATHROOM, BUT TO DO IT, THE, WE, WE TALK ABOUT DOING THINGS THE RIGHT WAY. THIS IS A VERY SPECIAL AREA. THE CREEK, THIS ESTUARY IS A SPECIAL PLACE, NOT JUST IN THE COUNTY, BUT IN THE WORLD. WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO PROTECT THE AREA. SO TAKING THE NECESSARY MEASURES TO CONSIDER FLOODING AND ALL THE THINGS I'M SURE THE EXPERTS HAVE CONSIDERED, JUST TO THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF DEGREE, TO RESPECT THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE BY COMMUNITY, BY THE ORGANIZATIONS, BY RESIDENTS, AND FOR THE THOSE THAT ARE GOING TO ENJOY IT IN THE FUTURE. SO, WHILE THIS IS GOING TO BE APPROVED, WE REALLY HOPE THAT THOSE CONSIDERATIONS WE REQUEST, AND ANYTHING THAT IS NEEDED TO SUPPORT THAT WITH THE EXPERTISE THAT MR. TED , OR THE ORGANIZATIONS OR US THAT ARE THERE STEWARDING THE LAND, EVEN CONSULTING AS FAR AS CONSULTING INDIGENOUS LEADERS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT WE WORK CLOSELY WITH, WE'RE, WE'RE READY TO OFFER THAT, THAT SUPPORT, THAT GUIDANCE, THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND THAT RELATIONSHIP TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S PART, THAT THE SAFETY OF THE BATHROOM IS NOT JUST CONSIDERED IN THE INITIAL STAGES, BUT ALSO THE SURROUNDING AREA AND ALL THE LIVING, UH, CREATURES AND THE WATER THAT NEEDS TO BE PRIORITIZED, AND ALSO THE MAINTENANCE THAT'LL COME WITH THAT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, WITH THAT, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND? DO WE HAVE A, UH, ROLL VOTE. COUNCIL MEMBER ANI UH, AYE. VICE MAYOR MOLINA? YES. MAYOR MORRISON. AYE. MOTION APPROVED. OKAY. [7.2 Awarding a Contract to Palm Engineering Construction Company, Inc. for the Paradise Creek Educational Park Wetland Expansion Project, CIP No. 21-28.] NEXT WE GO TO SEVEN TWO. THIS AWARDING A CONTRACT TO PALM ENGINEERING CONSTRUCTION COMPANY FOR THE PARADISE CREEK EDUCATIONAL PARK WETLAND EXPANSION PROJECT. SO, ONCE AGAIN, GOOD, ME, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, CITY MANAGER. UM, MARTA JUAREZ, ACTING DIRECTOR FOR ENGINEERING AND PUBLIC WORKS. UM, THE REASON WHY THIS ITEM, THIS IS A, A TYPICAL CONTRACT AWARD. YOU WOULD NORMALLY HAVE IT ON THE CONSENT. UH, AND, UH, THE REASON WHY THIS WAS MOVED TO A STAFF REPORT IS BECAUSE IT'S A SEQUENTIAL, UH, REVIEW AND APPROVAL. SO, UM, YOU MIGHT'VE NOTICED WHEN REVIEWING THIS ITEM THAT SOME OF THE FUNDING SOURCES, THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF A PUZZLE. THERE'S A, UM, A GRANT WE RECEIVED FROM THE STATE WHERE WE, UH, WERE ABLE TO DO ALL THE PLANNING, DESIGN AND A GOOD PORTION OF THE DEMOLITION AND NOW CONSTRUCTION WITH THAT STATE GRANT FROM THE OCEAN PROTECTION COUNCIL. UM, HOWEVER, WE, WE DID BUILD IN THE RESTROOM, WHICH WAS NOT ORIGINALLY PART OF THAT GRANT. AND THEN, AS YOU'VE HEARD, THE SHADE STRUCTURE, WHICH IS IN THAT VICINITY AS WELL. SO, UM, IN ORDER TO AWARD THIS CONTRACT, WE NEEDED CONFIRMATION THAT ITEM 7.1 WOULD BE APPROVED AND THEREFORE THE APPROPRIATIONS FOR FUNDING WERE THERE. AND SO, AS YOU LOOK AT THE FINANCIAL SECTION OF THIS STAFF REPORT, THAT'S EFFECTIVELY WHAT WE'VE DONE. SO THIS IS, THAT'S SHORT AND SWEET OF IT. THERE'S NO LONG PRESENTATION ON IT, BUT HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. OKAY. THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN, JANICE. UH, LUNA RENOSO. OKAY. JUST WE'LL CARRY THOSE COMMENTS OVER FROM SEVEN ONE TO SEVEN TWO. YOU GOT IT. ALRIGHT. UH, YES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MS. MARTHA. AGAIN, UH, ALL OF THE INFORMATION IN THIS ITEM, UH, THANK YOU FOR OFFERING THAT TO US AND MAKING IT AVAILABLE PUBLICLY AVAILABLE FOR EVERYONE TO REVIEW. UM, AND AGAIN, IT, IT IS, IT FLOWS, UH, DIRECTLY WITH THE PREVIOUS ITEM. I DO MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION, AWARDING THE CONTRACT TO, UH, PALM ENGINEERING CONSTRUCTION COMPANY, UH, AUTHORIZING A 15% CONTINGENCY, UH, FOR UNFORESEEN CHANGES. AND THREE, AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACT. WE'RE TAKING IT BACK. NO, NO, NO, I'M JUST KIDDING YOU. . [01:20:01] . I SECOND THAT. OKAY. ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, UH, ROLL VOTE PLEASE. COUNCILMAN ANI. AYE. VICE MAYOR MOLINA? YES. MAYOR MORRISON. AYE. MOTION APPROVED. ALRIGHT, NEXT WE [7.3 Authorization to Issue a Request for Proposals (RFP) for City Council Facilitation Services.] GO TO SEVEN THREE AUTHORIZATION TO ISSUE A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS AND RP FOR A CITY COUNCIL FACILITATION SERVICES. AND, UH, I'M GONNA LOOK OVER TO OUR CITY MANAGER. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, STAFF, AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS. UM, THIS ITEM ACTUALLY WAS PART OF THE, UH, DISCUSSION WE HAD DURING THE INTERVIEW PROCESS WHERE, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK EVERYONE AGREED THAT, UM, STARTING OUT WITH A NEW RELATIONSHIP, UH, WOULD GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, DISCUSS GOALS, EXPECTATIONS, UM, WHICH GIVE ME DIRECTION, UM, AND HOW THE COUNCIL WANTS DIFFERENT POLICY ISSUES AND PROJECTS IMPLEMENTED. SO, UM, USUALLY THE PROCESS THAT WE GO THROUGH FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT IS, IS TO, UH, TO PUT OUT AN AN RFP, UH, WHERE, UH, CONSULTANTS WILL, WILL SEE THIS, UM, DOCUMENT. THEY'LL SEE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, HOW WE'RE GOING TO SCORE IT, WHAT DIFFERENT CRITERIA WOULD BE NEEDED. UM, WE WILL ALL, AND, AND THAT'LL WILL GO OUT ON, ON ONE OF OUR, OUR BID SITES. SO IT, IT WILL BE EITHER PLANET BIDS OR SOURCE WELL, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I'M NOT SURE WHAT, UH, WHAT WE USE HERE, BUT, UM, THERE ARE MULTIPLE OPPORTUNITIES TO, TO GET THESE DOCUMENTS OUT INTO THE, UM, PUBLIC DOMAIN. UM, WE WILL, OTHER THINGS I WILL DO IS, IS TAKE THE RFP AND, AND SEND IT TO CONSULTANTS THAT I KNOW OF OR THAT I'VE WORKED WITH THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD FIT HERE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY RECEIVE IT. UM, SOMETIMES THESE THINGS GET OVERLOOKED. UM, PEOPLE GET BUSY WITH THEIR, THEIR PROJECTS. UM, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, UH, EVERYONE, THAT, THAT IS A POTENTIAL CONSULTANT TO HELP US THROUGH THIS, UM, HAS A CHANCE TO, TO PUT A, UM, A PROPOSAL IN. UH, THEN THEY WILL BE REVIEWED AND, UM, SCORING AND BROUGHT BACK TO, UH, TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO, UM, TAKE FINAL ACTION. MOST LIKELY. UM, AS I MENTIONED TO COUNCIL MEMBERS DURING THE BRIEFINGS, THERE'S A GOOD POSSIBILITY THAT THE COST OF THIS WILL BE UNDER $50,000, WHICH IS, UH, WITHIN THE CITY MANAGER'S AUTHORITY. BUT I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR THE COUNCIL TO BE COMFORTABLE WITH WHOEVER IS SELECTED AS A FACILITATOR, BECAUSE YOU WILL NEED TO BE WORKING VERY CAREFUL, VERY CLOSELY WITH THEM AND, AND FEEL COMFORTABLE, UH, THAT THEY'RE THE, THE RIGHT FIRM FOR THIS SITUATION. SO, UH, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? I DO HAVE SOME SPEAKERS. WE CAN LISTEN TO THOSE AND THEN SEE IF WE COME UP WITH ANY QUESTIONS. THIS IS OUR BIG SPEAKER LIST FOR THE NIGHT, UH, EDO TO BE FOLLOWED BY CYNTHIA FULLER, QUINONE, AND TO BE FOLLOWED BY TED GOTTCHA. THANK YOU, DOUG. THAT WAS ANSWERED SOME OF MY QUESTIONS, UH, AHEAD OF TIME. UM, FIRST I WANTED TO, I WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR, YOU KNOW, STEPPING IN AND HELPING. UM, I KNEW YOUR MANY YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IS GONNA BE WELL, WELL RECEIVED HERE. BUT I WANTED TO ASK, UM, OH, WAIT A MINUTE. BEFORE I DO THAT, I WANTED TO ALSO ACKNOWLEDGE, UH, I WAS GONNA ASK ACKNOWLEDGE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER BUSH FOR, UM, VIDEOTAPING IN, BUT, UH, HE LEFT. I NOTICE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER RODRIGUEZ IS GONE, UH, VIDEO, BUT I'M SORT OF, SORT OF EXPECT HIM TO BE, BE VIDEO VIDEOING. UM, MAYBE THROUGH, UH, FACEBOOK LATER ON. DOUG, I ALSO WANT TO, I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND WHY RESIDENTS ARE CONCERNED WHEN THEY HEAR ABOUT THE $50,000. AND THE REASON I UNDER WANTED TO SAY IS BECAUSE THE WORDS OUTREACH HAVE BEEN USED BEFORE AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO THE TUNE OF, YOU KNOW, WITH THE, THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS SPLIT AMONGST THE DIFFERENT, UH, DISTRICTS OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS FOR THE FOUR, THAT'S $1.6 MILLION THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY OUTCOMES FOR. SO, YOU KNOW, I KNOW 50,000 IS PEANUTS, BUT TO HEAR THE WORD OUTREACH, I HOPE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A CLEAR EXPECTATIONS. WE WEREN'T PRIVY. THE PUBLIC WASN'T PRIVY TO YOUR INTERVIEW PROCESS. THE UNIONS WERE COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE, BUT WE CITIZENS WEREN'T. SO, YOU KNOW, WE NEVER HEARD WHAT YOUR EXPECTATIONS ARE, WHAT YOUR ROLES AND RESPONSE, YOUR PERCEPTION OF WHAT THE ROLES AND [01:25:01] RESPONSIBILITIES WERE CITY MANAGERS ARE. THAT'S SORT OF BEEN THE POINT OF CONFUSION BEFORE. AND WE'VE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC HOW THE COUNCIL INTERACTS WITH THE CITY MANAGER. UH, AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE PUBLIC TO KNOW WHAT YOUR PERCEPTION IS. AND, UM, BUT BEFORE I DO THAT, I WANTED TO JUST ASK YOU, I GOT ONE MINUTE LEFT. , I WANTED TO ASK YOU IF YOU CAN DEFINE WHAT, IF YOU CAN POSSIBLY DEFINE WHAT THE OUTCOMES WOULD BE, WHAT YOU, WHAT ARE YOU EXPECTING? WHAT ARE THE, WHAT'S THE FEEDBACK, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE YOU EXPECTING PEOPLE TO SAY? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT SEEMS TO ME THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN INSTANCES WHERE THERE'S BEEN CONFUSION GIVEN TO THE CITY MANAGER, AND WE DON'T WANT YOU TO FALL INTO THAT SAME TRAP AGAIN. YOU KNOW, UH, THE PUBLIC CITIZENS HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF THAT. THANK YOU. UH, CYNTHIA FULLER QUINONE, FOLLOWED BY TED GODSHAW. WE FOLLOWED BY, UH, JANICE LUNA RENOSO. AGAIN, GOOD EVENING, UH, MAYOR CITY COUNCIL, STAFF AND ALL HERE TONIGHT, YOU KNOW ME, CYNTHIA. CYNTHIA FULLER QUINONE SPEAKING NOW AS A NATIONAL CITY RESIDENT, BUSINESS OWNER AND ACTIVE COMMUNITY MEMBER, AS WRITTEN, I OPPOSE THE CITY MANAGER'S PROPOSAL TO SPEND UP TO 50,000 FOR A CONSULTANT TO FACILITATE A CITY COUNCIL RETREAT AND VARIOUS STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSIONS WITH FOLLOW UP AND IMPLEMENTATION SUPPORT. IF THE CITY DOES MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS EXPENDITURE, I STRONGLY URGE THAT THE PROPOSAL BE REVISED FOR A PRIMARY FOCUS ON COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND VISIONING RATHER THAN INTERNAL COMMUNICATION AMONG ELECTED OFFICIALS AND MANAGEMENT. NATIONAL CITY IS FACING, AS WE ALL KNOW, IMPORTANT CHALLENGES, PARTICULARLY WITH THE BUDGET AND OPPORTUNITIES. RESIDENTS AND BUSINESS REPRESENTATIVES DESERVE A MEANINGFUL ROLE AND HELP HELPING DEFINE THE CITY'S FUTURE PRIORITIES, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GOALS, NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENTS, PUBLIC SAFETY OBJECTIVES, AND QUALITY OF LIFE INVESTMENTS. A STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS FOR CITIES IS MOST SUCCESSFUL WHEN IT REFLECTS THE COMMUNITY'S VISION AND VALUES. I ENCOURAGE THE CITY COUNCIL TO ENSURE THAT THE PROCESS FOR SELECTING, UH, ANY FACILITATOR INCLUDES COMMUNITY REPRESENTATION AND INPUT. IF PUBLIC FUNDS ARE BEING INVESTED IN A CONSULTANT WHO WILL HELP GUIDE THE CITY'S FUTURE DIRECTION RESIDENTS SHOULD HAVE RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES SHOULD HAVE A VOICE IN IDENTIFYING THE QUALIFICATIONS, EXPERIENCE, AND APPROACH THAT BEST MEET NATIONAL CITY'S NEEDS. HIRED WITH APPROXIMATELY 30 YEARS OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT EXPERIENCE, THE CITY MANAGER SURELY MUST HAVE A CORE COMPETENCY OF EFFECTIVE COMMUNICATION WITH THE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, AND CITY STAFF. AT THAT LEVEL OF EXPERIENCE, BUILDING PRODUCTIVE RELATIONSHIPS WITH ELECTED OFFICIALS AND MANAGING, UH, COUNCIL MANAGER COMMUNICATION SHOULD BE A WELL ESTABLISHED SKILL. ENGAGING RESIDENTS, BUSINESSES, COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS IN CREATING A SHARED VISION FOR NATIONAL CITY'S FUTURE WILL PROVIDE A TREMENDOUS RETURN ON INVESTMENT. I ENCOURAGE THE COUNCIL TO PRIORITIZE COMMUNITY REPRESENTATION AND FACILITATION TOGETHER WITH COMMUNITY EN ENGAGEMENT AND LONG-TERM VISIONING FOR ANY FACILITATOR CONTRACT. THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE TED GOTCH, FOLLOWED BY JANICE LUNA RENOSO, FOLLOWED BY OZZY MIZ. I, I MAY, MAY MESS THAT ONE UP. CLOSE ENOUGH. OKAY. GOOD. TED, TED GOTCH HERE, DIRECTOR OF PARADISE CREEK EDUCATIONAL PARK, INC. ALL VOLUNTEER NONPROFIT. WE WELCOME THE NEW CITY MANAGER TO THE JOB. THE STAFF REPORT FOR ITEM SEVEN THREE SHOWS SEVERAL CHANGES IN FORMAT THAT I THINK WILL HELP PEOPLE DETERMINE THE VALUE OF PROPOSALS AND PROJECTS. I LIKE THE NEW, SOME OF THE NEW FORMAT. THE CITY COUNCIL HAS REALLY GUIDED ITSELF FOR QUITE A FEW YEARS. I WOULD SAY THAT SINCE THE TIME OF MR. RALSTON SERVED AS CITY MANAGER, THE CITY'S FINANCIAL CONDITION POLICY BUDGET AUDITS AND RESERVES HAVE BEEN SLIDING DOWNWARD DURING THIS TIME. THE PROPOSAL TO HIRE A FACILITATOR IS NOT A HUGE EXPENSE, BUT IT WILL NOT STOP THE SLIDE EITHER. COUNSEL, FOLLOW ALTERNATIVE ONE AND REQUEST THAT MR. SCHUTZE DO HIS OWN RESEARCH PRIOR TO A COMPREHENSIVE LONG-TERM PLANNING EFFORT. MR. SCHULZE, LOOK AT THE DATA AND SHOW YOUR CRITICAL THINKING SKILLS ABOUT THE CONDITIONS YOU SEE IN NATIONAL CITY. LEARN A LITTLE ABOUT THOSE YOU INTERVIEW BEFORE TALKING WITH THEM. FIRST, THE MANAGERS OFFERED TO MAKE 5% REDUCTIONS IN THEIR DEPARTMENT EXPENSES AND GOT THAT PROPOSAL THROUGH THE COUNCIL VOTE. YOU SEE HOW THEY FEEL. THERE WAS NO REAL DISCUSSION ON HOW TO ACCOMPLISH IT. HOWEVER, MANAGER STAFF DOES NOT NEED A FACILITATOR TO DRAW OUT THEIR CONCERN ABOUT THEIR [01:30:01] WORKLOAD. SECOND, THE EMPLOYEE GROUPS HAVE BEEN ENGAGED IN THE CITY BUDGET PROCESS AS IT RELATES TO THEIR OWN INTERESTS. THEY WANT MORE WAGES AND DID NOT GIVE ANY PUBLIC DISCUSSION ABOUT INCREASING, ABOUT THE INCREASING DEFICIT OR THE CONNECTION TO WAGES. I DID NOT HEAR A COMMITMENT TO MORE AND BETTER SERVICE FROM THEM. YOU MUST INDEPENDENTLY CRUNCH THE NUMBERS WITH YOUR HR DEPARTMENT FOR RECOMMENDATION. COUNCIL HAS ALSO GIVEN THEIR INPUT THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE PROCESS. THEY DO THIS ALL THE TIME WITH THEIR CITY MANAGERS. THERE'S A LOT TO LEARN FROM WATCHING THE EARLIER COUNCIL MEETING VIDEOS AND FOLLOWING THEIR INITIATIVES, MOTIONS AND VOTES. IT IS QUITE CLEAR THE COUNSELORS HAVE PET PROGRAMS TO WORK FOR, BUT THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO RAISE SALES REVENUE OR BRING IN STRONG BUSINESSES. THE CITY COUNCIL WILL TRY TO MANIPULATE YOUR PROCESS TO SUIT PERSONAL POLITICAL AGENDAS AND POLICIES. THEY CHOOSE. THEY HAVE INTERVIEWED YOU ALREADY. YOU ALL KNOW THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING. THE GOVERNMENT AND THE COMMUNITY WOULD BENEFIT FROM A CITY MANAGER WHO WALKS THE STREETS AND HALLS TO SEE FOR HIMSELF, RATHER THAN RELYING ON ANOTHER OUTSIDE FIRM LIKE THE MANAGERS EMPLOYEES AND ELECTED OFFICIALS, THE NEIGHBORS HAVE CLEARLY VOICED THEIR CONCERNS, ISSUES, AND DESIRES FOR IMPROVEMENTS OVER AND OVER. YOU CAN LOOK AT THE C CLICK FIX REPORTING SYSTEM TO SEE ALL THE PROBLEMS OUR NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE. IT COVERS THE GAMBIT. GO OUT AND VISIT OUR NEIGHBORS AT THE END OF PLAZA BOULEVARD AND LEARN ABOUT THE SEVERE FLOODING THEY EXPERIENCED WHEN CITY STORM DRAINS FAILED. LISTEN CAREFULLY THEN DECIDE IF YOU'RE FOR YOURSELF, IF THE CITY IS READY FOR THE NEXT DISASTER. LOOK AT THE NATIONAL CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT'S CPSM INDEPENDENT ANALYSIS REPORT FOR A COMPREHENSIVE STUDY OF PUBLIC SAFETY PROGRAMS, SERVICE LEVELS. LOOK AT NATIONAL CITY BOULEVARD AND HIGHLAND AVENUE FOR VACANCIES ON OUR COMMERCIAL STREETS. TAKE A LOOK AT THE SATURATION OF LIQUOR LICENSES. LOOK AT CANNABIS IN THE AREAS AND FIND OUT WHICH COUNCIL MEMBERS, HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT WEED OR WHICH ONES USE IT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT AND HOW THAT MIGHT INFLUENCE THEIR JUDGMENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH ABOUT THINGS. NEXT WE HAVE JANICE LUNA RENOSO, FOLLOWED BY OZZY. GOOD EVENING. I WANNA CHALLENGE THIS PROPOSAL. AND AT THE SAME TIME, MR. DOUG SCHULTZ, UH, I WANT TO ADDRESS YOU SPECIFICALLY AND, AND OF COURSE THE COUNCIL. BUT, UM, AND ALSO ENCOURAGING, UM, WHAT ENCOURAGED ME WHEN I WAS READING THROUGH THE, UH, THE PROPOSAL, UM, THE RFP DESCRIPTION IN ENGAGING COMMUNITY. IT DIDN'T SAY ENGAGING COMMUNITY. THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO SEE. IT SAID TO HAVE A FACILITATOR ELEVATE SOME OF THE COMMUNITY'S NEEDS AND HELP PROVIDE THAT, INCLUDING THE, THE RETREAT THAT WAS MENTIONED. AND SO I SAW THAT AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY GROUND IT IN WHAT THE COMMUNITY NEEDS. WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR THE COMMITMENT, FOR THE COMMITMENT FROM THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY ON THE ROLE THAT AN ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE PLANNER OR COORDINATOR WOULD'VE PLAYED. WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR THAT. WE ARE AN ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE COMMUNITY, AND ANY FACILITATOR, STAFF, CONSULTANT ORGANIZER SHOULD REALLY LOOK AT THE WORK THROUGH THE, THROUGH THAT LENS. NOT JUST THE ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE LENS, BUT BEING CULTURALLY RESPONSIVE AND THEN KNOWING ALL OF THE WORK THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS DONE TO MAKE, UH, NATIONAL CITY A JEWEL. WE HAVE A VERY SPECIAL COMMUNITY. SO I BELIEVE THAT THIS ROLE, IF THOUGH I WANNA CHALLENGE IT BECAUSE WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR THAT REPRESENTATION. IF IT CAN BE, UM, TRANSFORMED INTO A LIAISON ROLE TO REALLY BRING IN THE VOICE. AND WHEN THESE CHALLENGES ARE BROUGHT UP AND CHALLENGING TOXIC INDUSTRY, YOU KNOW, WHEN THINGS GET, REALLY GET HEATED UP OR WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BUDGETS AND BUDGET MANAGEMENT, HOW CAN IT BE DONE IN A WAY THAT IS TRANSFORMATIVE BUT ALSO REALLY PRIORITIZING THE MOST IMPORTANT PEOPLE, WHICH ARE THE RESIDENTS? UM, SO AT THE SAME TIME THAT I'M CHALLENGING THIS ROLE, I REALLY WANT THIS, UH, OPPORTUNITY OR ANY OPPORTUNITY THAT THIS TRANSFORMS INTO TO ADDRESS ONE, THE COMMITMENT THAT THE CITY ALREADY MADE REGARDING, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE. AND HOW CAN THAT BE A KIND OF FUSION WITH WHAT THE CITY NEEDS. UM, I BELIEVE SOMEONE THAT WOULD COME INTO THIS ROLE WOULD BE, UM, SOMEONE THAT IS FAIR JUST, AND THAT HAS THOSE QUALIFICATIONS AND UNDERSTANDING THAT MAYBE THE COUNCIL MEMBERS CAN USE SOME SUPPORT IN UNDERSTANDING THE COMMUNITY'S NEEDS AND THE CAPACITY THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS TO CREATE REAL CHANGE. SOME OF THE BEST PROGRAMS AND WINS ARE BECAUSE THINGS WERE CHALLENGED, AND WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT WITH THE CITY. AND SO, WITH THAT SAID, I WANT TO CHALLENGE THIS, THIS PROPOSAL, AND AT THE SAME TIME, ENCOURAGE SOMETHING THAT WOULD ACTUALLY SERVE AND BENEFIT THE NEEDS THAT YOU HAVE AS A CITY MANAGER. THE NEEDS THAT THE COUNCIL HAS, BUT FIRST AND FOREMOST, THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY TO REALLY BALANCE [01:35:01] THAT POWER, THE POWER DYNAMICS OUT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, . GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. UH, CHE. I FIRST WANNA INTRODUCE MYSELF. MY NAME IS OZZY MENSES. ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO, I PRESENTED IN THIS CHAMBER AS THE SOUTH BAY PLANNER FOR MTS, THE METROPOLITAN TRANSIT SYSTEM, UH, WORKING CLOSELY WITH YOUR SENIOR MANAGERS AND STAFF AT THE TIME ON TRANSPORTATION UPGRADES IN NATIONAL CITY. SINCE THEN, MY CAREER HAS PROGRESSED THROUGH PLANNING, ENGINEERING, PUBLIC AFFAIRS, AND GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS WORK, AND HAS BECOME INCREASINGLY COMMUNITY DRIVEN. EVEN THROUGH MY NONPROFIT WORK THESE DAYS, MY FOCUS IS ON ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE THROUGH A COMMUNITY DRIVEN APPROACH. AND TONIGHT I'M HERE WITH THE HEALTH EQUALS COALITION IN PARTNERSHIP WITH MUNDO GARDENS SPEAKING ON THIS RFP. WE APPRECIATE THE CITY BEING MINDFUL OF BUILDING STRONGER AND STRATEGIC RELATIONSHIPS. THAT'S A GOOD STEP FORWARD AND WE APPRECIATE IT. WHAT WE WANNA ENCOURAGE IS THAT THE COMMUNITY'S VOICE IS REALLY TAKING INTO ACCOUNT HERE. AT THE CORE OF THIS, WE'D LIKE TO SEE THE CITY ENSURE THIS CONSULTANT HAS THE INFORMATION THEY NEED TO BRING THE COMMUNITY'S VISION INTO THESE CONVERSATIONS. WE'D ASK THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL TO CONSIDER HOW IMPORTANT THAT WILL BE AS PART OF THIS PROCESS. IN ADDITION, IT WOULD BE IMPERATIVE TO HIRE LOCAL WITH LOCAL GOVERNMENT EXPERIENCE. THERE ARE PLENTY CAPABLE LOCAL FIRMS AND CONSULTANTS. THIS CONNECTS TO SOMETHING THE HEALTHY URAS COALITION HAS ASKED FOR BEFORE THAT ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE PLANNER POSITION, SOMEONE MORE CONNECTED WITH THE COMMUNITY TO ADVOCATE FOR AND WORK WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE COMMUNITIES BEING IMPACTED. I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING TOGETHER AS WELL AS THE COALITION AND OUR RESIDENTS TO MAKE MEANINGFUL AND MINDFUL IMPROVEMENTS FOR OUR MUCH NEEDED COMMUNITIES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU OZZY. ALRIGHT. UM, NOW AS I UNDERSTAND THIS, THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY SOMETHING, A CONTRACT THAT WOULD BE GIVEN OUT OR ANYTHING ELSE. THIS IS JUST GIVING THE CITY MANAGER SOME, SOME LATITUDE IN LOOKING OVER THIS THROUGH THIS NEXT YEAR. AND IT, SOME OF THE STUFF MIGHT HAPPEN, MIGHT NOT, UH, DEPENDING ON WHAT, WHAT YOUR INDIVIDUAL NEEDS ARE. MAYBE YOU CAN SPEAK TO THAT. YEAH, I, I'D BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE, UH, SOME OF THE COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS. UM, I THINK FIRST OF ALL, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I, THAT I PROVIDED THE COUNSEL DURING THE INTERVIEW PROCESS WAS A 100 DAY PLAN. UM, AND THAT ADDRESSES WHAT I INTEND TO DO DURING THE FIRST 30 DAYS DURING DAY 30 THROUGH 60, AND THEN 61 THROUGH 100. UM, THE REASON I DO THAT IS BECAUSE I WANT THE COUNSEL TO KIND OF HAVE SOMETHING TO HOLD ME ACCOUNTABLE. AND, YOU KNOW, TALK ABOUT IS, IS THIS THE RIGHT PLAN FOR ME TO DO DURING MY FIRST 100 DAYS? AND I, I CAN TELL YOU A LOT OF WHAT THAT IS IS HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH STAFF, WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS, WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS OBSERVING. AND THEN TOWARD THE END OF THAT PERIOD, I FEEL LIKE I SHOULD HAVE A PRETTY GOOD SENSE OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING WELL, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE CHANGED, WHERE THERE MIGHT BE OPPORTUNITIES WHERE THERE MIGHT BE SOME THREATS. AND THE FINAL THING, UH, FINAL ACT OF THAT 100 DAY PLAN IS TO REPORT THAT OUT TO THE CITY COUNCIL. I THINK THERE'S ALSO A LITTLE BIT OF CONFUSION ABOUT WHAT, WHAT THIS FACILITATION SERVICES IS INTENDED TO DO. THIS IS NOT A, A COMMUNITY VISIONING PROCESS THAT IS NOT WHAT THIS IS INTENDED TO DO. FOR $50,000, THE COMMUNITY VISIONING PROCESS, YOU WOULD MAYBE GET A SURVEY PROCESS DONE, NO COMMUNITY DISCUSSION, NO INTERACTION WITH COUNCIL STAFF OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. UM, WITH A TRUE COMMUNITY, UM, VISIONING PROCESS, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS PLUS. UM, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR DURING A PUBLIC MEETING, THE COUNCIL TO HAVE A DISCUSSION AMONGST THEMSELVES WITH ME ABOUT WHAT THEY ALREADY KNOW TO BE TRUE AS FAR AS INPUT RECEIVED FROM [01:40:01] THE COMMUNITY. WE'VE GOT ALL KINDS OF DOCUMENTATION, INCLUDING COMMUNITY OUTREACH THAT'S BEEN DONE NOT THAT LONG AGO. THERE'S A, THERE'S A VERY COMPREHENSIVE LIST OF WHAT THE, THE COMMUNITY SHARED AS DESIRES NEEDS. UM, AND, AND IT'S THEIR JOB TO SORT THROUGH THAT AND FILTER THAT TO ME TO PROVIDE DIRECTION IN WHAT MY PRIORITIES SHOULD BE, UM, AS WE MOVE FORWARD. THE OTHER THING IT HELPS WITH, AND THIS MIGHT BE A WHERE, YOU KNOW, WHERE THERE WERE SOME DIFFICULTIES WITH OTHER CITY MANAGERS, IT GIVES ME A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT MY BOSSES, THE MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL EXPECT ME TO DO, SO THAT WHEN ONE YEAR COMES AROUND AND IT'S TIME FOR MY PERFORMANCE EVALUATION, THEY HAVE SOMETHING TO EVALUATE MY PERFORMANCE AGAINST. SO IT'S, IT'S REALLY, IT'S A DISCUSSION WITH THE COUNCIL, THE CITY MANAGER THAT IS FACILITATED. SO WE, WE HAVE A COMMON UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THEY WANT ME TO WORK ON. UM, THE SPEAKER THAT SAID, AT, YOU KNOW, 37 YEARS EXPERIENCE, I SHOULD, I SHOULD HAVE DEVELOPED EXPERTISE IN COMMUNICATION. ABSOLUTELY. I HAVE, AND THIS IS ONE OF THE KEY PIECES THAT I'VE LEARNED THROUGHOUT MY CAREER AS GOING INTO A NEW CITY. IT'S CRITICAL TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION WITH THE CITY COUNCIL SO THAT I UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR EXPECTATIONS ARE. YEAH, THERE'S A JOB DESCRIPTION, BUT THAT DOESN'T REALLY COMMUNICATE THE EXPECTATIONS THEY HAVE, WHAT THEIR GOALS ARE, WHAT THEIR PRIORITIES ARE. UM, THE LAST THING I WOULD SAY, UM, WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT BUDGET DEFICIT, AND IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE COULD ADD STAFF POSITIONS, ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE POSITIONS. WE ARE NOT IN A POSITION FINANCIALLY TO ADD ANY STAFF. WE ACTUALLY ARE IN A POSITION WHERE WE'RE AT THE EDGE OF A CLIFF. AND IF WE DON'T TAKE DRASTIC ACTION, WE'RE, WE'RE OVER THE CLIFF. AND I, I CAN'T, I CAN'T STATE THAT STRONG ENOUGH THE A CRITICAL POINT FOR THIS CITY. UM, DELIVERABLES. I, I THINK I, I I KIND OF EXPLAINED THAT IT WILL BE DOCUMENTED EXPECTATIONS, OH, A WORK PLAN, UM, THAT WILL BE DEVELOPED AND, UM, POTENTIALLY DEPENDING ON HOW THE DISCUSSION GOES, HOW FAR ALONG WE GET, UM, MAYBE TIMELINES, UM, TIMEFRAMES, UH, INCLUDED IN THOSE, UM, EXPECTATIONS. NOW, WHEN COUNCIL WANTS CERTAIN THINGS COMPLETED, UH, IN DATES, DATES OF COMPLETION, UM, I HAVE LOOKED AT NOT ONLY THE FEEDBACK FROM THE, THE COMMUNITY SURVEY, UH, THAT WAS DONE I THINK TWO, THREE YEARS AGO. UM, I'VE LOOKED THROUGH ALL KINDS OF REPORTS, CCL, FIX ISSUES, UM, AND I HAVE RECEIVED INVALUABLE, UM, INPUT FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS, FROM STAFF, FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS. UM, I'VE ATTENDED THREE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE EVENTS IN TWO WEEKS. UM, I HAVE BEEN OUT TALKING WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS, AND I WILL BE DOING MORE OF THAT, UM, IN THE COMING WEEKS AFTER, I THINK I HAVE A COUPLE MORE MEETINGS WITH THE PRESIDENTS OF THE LABOR GROUPS THAT, YOU KNOW, I, I EXPECT I'LL GET SOME GOOD, UH, INPUT FROM, FROM THOSE INDIVIDUALS. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, THIS IS A LEARNING PROCESS FOR ME ABOUT THIS ORGANIZATION, ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY, AND, UM, THIS PROCESS IS PART OF THAT. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, UH, DOUG, FOR, UM, THAT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, I DO WANNA OFFER THE, UM, THE REPORT THAT YOU PRESENTED TO US, UH, IN PART OF OUR AGENDA ITEMS. UM, I, I AGREE WITH MR. ACH. IT'S A VERY NICE REPORT, AND I DEFINITELY LIKE THE STYLE, THE, UM, DIFFERENT OPTIONS. YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S DIFFERENT FROM THE, THE STANDARD STYLE THAT WE'RE USED TO SEEING. AND, AND HOPEFULLY IT INSPIRES, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A REVAMP TO, TO OUR REPORT TEMPLATE. BUT, UM, IT, IT DEFINITELY IS A BREATH OF FRESH AIR. AND I THINK THAT IS, UM, WHAT WE ARE, ONE OF MY EXPECTATIONS CERTAINLY, UM, IN, UM, HAVING YOU COME ON BOARD IS [01:45:01] HELP US, YOU KNOW, UH, GIVE OUR ORGANIZATION THAT BREATH OF FRESH AIR THAT WE'VE BEEN NEEDING FOR SO LONG. AND, UM, IF THE, THE REPORT AND THE STYLE OF THE REPORT THAT YOU GAVE US IS A GLIMPSE OF THAT, UM, I'M DOWN FOR IT, THIS RETREAT, UM, OR, OR THE, YOU KNOW, THE REPORTS DETAILING THE RETREAT BEING PART OF ONE OF THE, THE THINGS THAT, THAT THIS IS MEANT TO COVER. UM, I, I THINK IS, IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE DO NEED BECAUSE IT HASN'T HAPPENED IN A WHILE. I THINK I RECALL THE LAST TIME THAT THE COUNCIL HAD SOME TYPE OF RETREAT FUNCTION WAS FOUR YEARS AGO. UM, WHEN VITAS AND I CAME ON BOARD, UM, I, I DO WANNA LET THE COMMUNITY, I WANNA REMIND THE COMMUNITY THAT THE FIVE OF US ON THE COUNCIL, WE ARE BOUND BY THE BROWN ACT WHERE WE'RE NOT ABLE TO MEET TOGETHER AND ACTUALLY CONVERSE AND HAVE, YOU KNOW, PLANNING SESSIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT OUTSIDE OF A SCHEDULED MEETING OR A PLANNED ACTIVITY OR, YOU KNOW, UNDER SOME TYPE OF, UM, UH, ADVERTISE, NOT ADVERTISED, BUT, UM, NOTICED, UM, TYPE OF ACTION, RIGHT? UM, SO, SO THIS IS ONE OF THOSE FUNCTIONS THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO COME TOGETHER IN THE WAY, YOU KNOW, NORMAL PEOPLE COME TOGETHER. NOT THAT WE'RE NOT NORMAL PEOPLE, , SOMETIMES YOU MIGHT QUESTION THAT , BUT I THINK IT IS JUST ONE OF THOSE FUNCTIONS THAT IS AVAILABLE. YOU KNOW, UM, ME BEING ON SANDAG, THE, THE FOUR YEAR, OR THE MAYBE TWO YEARS, I DON'T EVEN REMEMBER NOW, BUT MAYBE FOUR YEARS, UM, I'VE HAD THE LUXURY OF, UM, ATTENDING AN ANNUAL RETREAT WITH, UH, SANDECK BOARD MEMBERS. AND I, AND I HAVE SEEN THE VALUE IN THAT THERE IS TRULY AN OPPORTUNITY TO, OF, YOU KNOW, MEETING OF THE MIND, UM, COMING TOGETHER AND TRULY HAVING THAT OPPORTUNITY TO UNDERSTAND THE, THE GOALS OF THE AGENCY, THE, YOU KNOW, THE REASON, THE PURPOSE BEHIND, UM, YOU KNOW, WHY WE DO EVERYTHING THAT WE ARE CALLED TO DO. SO I TRULY DO BELIEVE IN THE VALUE OF, UM, THE, THE, THE, THE ACTION THAT WE'RE TRYING TO, TO MAKE HAPPEN. NOW, OF COURSE, UH, I'VE SPOKEN TO DOUG ABOUT THIS. IT WOULD BE MY, UH, SUGGESTION THAT THIS TYPE OF GATHERING HAPPENS AFTER NOVEMBER, RIGHT? UM, IT IS YET TO BE SEEN WHAT THE MAKEUP OF THE COUNCIL WILL BE AFTER THIS NOVEMBER ELECTION. UM, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT, RIGHT, FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS TO INCLUDE, UH, WHOEVER THE MEMBERS ARE REPRESENTING THE COMMUNITY, UM, AFTER THAT ELECTION. SO, UH, THAT WOULD BE MY 2 CENTS AS FAR AS SOME OF THE PLANNING AND SOME OF THE DATES THAT ARE LISTED IN THAT REPORT. UM, BUT I DO ALSO JUST WANNA, AND I DON'T WANNA BE TOO, UM, LENGTHY HERE. I DO WANNA OFFER, I'VE HAD SOME INSIGHT INTO SOME OF THE, UM, QUALITIES THAT DOUG HAS, UH, YOU KNOW, DEMONSTRATED TO ME. HE ATTENDED MY CITY, MY, UM, TOWN HALL LAST WEEK. AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT ONE OF THE MEMBERS FROM THE, FROM THE AUDIENCE ASKED HIM IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS YOUR APPROACH? UH, AND THE VERY FIRST THING HE SAID, IT WAS ACTUALLY VERY SURPRISING TO ME. NOT SURPRISING, BUT IT WASN'T EXPECTED. HE SAID, UM, I, MY APPROACH REALLY IS TO LISTEN. IT'S NOT REALLY TO, TO, YOU KNOW, TAKE ACTION. OF COURSE, IF THERE'S AN URGENT NEED TO MAKE A DECISION, THAT'S MY JOB. THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO DO. BUT I, I DON'T WANNA START OFF WITH, YOU KNOW, COMING IN FRESH SOMETHING SOMEPLACE NEW AND MAKING THE DECISION RIGHT THEN AND THERE. NO, MY APPROACH IS TO BE HERE AND LISTEN AND TAKE IN THE INFORMATION AND OBSERVE. THOSE WERE HIS WORDS. SO I DO HAVE A LOT OF CONFIDENCE THAT THAT IS HIS APPROACH. UM, AND I THINK, UM, THAT, UH, SPEAKS TO HIS COMMUNICATION STYLE, HIS COMMUNICATION SKILLS. ANOTHER THING THAT I HAVE REALLY ENJOYED, DOUG, AND I HOPE I KNOW YOU'RE GONNA GET REALLY, REALLY BUSY IF YOU'RE NOT ALREADY. UM, THE WEEKLY EMAILS THAT YOU HAVE SENT OUT WITH PERTINENT INFORMATION ON THEM, UM, TRULY ARE SOMETHING WE, I HAVE NEVER RECEIVED , AND I HOPE I KEEP GETTING THEM BECAUSE IT DOES GIVE ME INSIGHT INTO, UM, THE, YOU KNOW, REALLY THE BEHIND THE SCENES TO THE CITY FOR THE WEEK, RIGHT? WHAT OUR CITY MANAGER IS DOING IN THAT WEEK, WHO HE IS MEETING WITH, WHAT HE HAS ACCOMPLISHED, UM, THAT IS KIND OF LIKE THE, THE, THE SUMMARY OF THE, THE, THE CITY FOR THAT WEEK. AND I, I, THAT REALLY IS SOMETHING THAT IS CRUCIAL INFORMATION. UM, I, I, WE HAD, WE HAD BEEN GETTING INFORMATION LIKE THAT, I THINK IT WAS ON A MONTHLY BASIS, AND IT, IT WAS DETAILS BY EACH DEPARTMENT. AND I DO WANNA CONTINUE GETTING THAT REPORT. THAT WAS ALSO A VERY GOOD REPORT MONTHLY, BUT TO RECEIVE IT ON A WEEKLY BASIS WITH SUCH SALIENT DETAIL, THAT'S FANTASTIC. THAT IS ANOTHER INSIGHT INTO HIS [01:50:01] COMMUNICATION SKILLS. SO DOUG, I'M VERY, VERY GRATEFUL FOR THAT. I SPOKE ABOUT THE BROWN ACT, UH, COMMUNITY NEEDS, THEIR VOICE REPRESENTED, AND THAT IS PRECISELY WHAT OUR JOBS ARE HERE. SITTING IN THIS CHAIR, I CAME INTO THIS KNOWING THAT MY JOB HERE IS TO BRING THE COMMUNITY'S VOICE. UM, AND I HOPE THAT THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'M DOING, THE STRATEGIC PLANNING. I DO AGREE. UM, A FEW OF THE MEMBER, A FEW OF THE SPEAKERS MENTIONED, ACTUALLY, I THINK IT WAS DOUG THAT MENTIONED IT, THAT THAT'S PART OF THIS, BUT IT IS ALSO, IT'S A DIFFERENT PIECE OF IT IN ORDER TO GET TO THE STRATEGIC PLANNING AND INVOLVING THE COMMUNITY AND ALL OF THAT. OF COURSE, THE COMMUNITY IS A PART OF THAT. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WE ARE EXPECTING TO GET DONE THROUGH THIS ACTION. AND, UM, UM, THAT'S ALL I'M GONNA SAY, BUT I'M NOT SURE IF YOU NEED AN ACTION ON HERE OR NOT, MAYOR. WELL, WELL, I, UM, IF YOU DO NEED AN ACTION, I, I WOULD LOVE TO MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THIS. THANK YOU. OKAY. UH, I'LL SECOND THAT, MAYOR. OKAY. WE GOT A MOTION, A SECOND COMMENT. LET, LET ME JUST SAY THAT, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, AS WE SAID BEFORE, THIS IS JUST A LINE OF ACTION FOR THE CITY MANAGER. AND IN REALITY, HE REALLY DIDN'T EVEN HAVE TO PUT ON THERE. HE HAS, THE CITY MANAGER HAS AUTHORITY UP TO $50,000 ANYWAY, BUT THIS IS ALL IN THE, IN THE AREA OF OPENNESS AND, UH, YOU KNOW, AND LAYING OUT A PLAN AND SAYING, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE THINGS MAY BE NEEDED AND SOME OF 'EM MAY NOT BE, BUT WE WON'T KNOW UNTIL WE GET MORE INTO THE MIDDLE OF IT TO FIND OUT WHAT, WHAT WE MIGHT NEED AND WHAT WE MIGHT NOT. AND, BUT LET'S NOT, UH, GET MISCONSTRUED. THIS IS NOT, AS I SAY, THIS IS NOT A COMMUNITY OUTREACH THING. THIS IS DEALING WITH GETTING THE FUNCTION BETWEEN CITY MANAGER, DEPARTMENT HEADS COUNCIL TO LEARN, YOU KNOW, TO TAKE IT ALL AND WORK TOGETHER. 'CAUSE PARTICULARLY OVER THE LAST, IT'S BASICALLY BEEN ABOUT THREE YEARS NOW, WE'VE HAD THIS ROTATION OF LEADERSHIP WITHIN, WITHIN MANAGEMENT THAT HAS CAUSED A LOT OF VOIDS, EVERYTHING ELSE. AND IS, IS A LOT OF FRACTURES THAT NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT TOGETHER SO THAT WE CAN EFFECTIVELY, AS A GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE DIFF VERY DIFFERENT FROM EACH OTHER, ADDRESS THE NEEDS OF THIS COMMUNITY. AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS, YOU KNOW, YOU SAID THAT WE NEED TO HEAR THE COMMUNITY VOICE AND WE NEED TO HEAR THE, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT, UH, WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS AND THINGS ALONG THIS LINE. LET ME SAY, THERE IS NOT A COMMUNITY VOICE. THERE IS NOT A COMMUNITY WANT. WE GOT 60,000 PEOPLE IN THIS, IN THE CITY. WE GOT 60,000 COMMUNITY VOICES. EACH ONE OF 'EM WILL TELL YOU A DIFFERENT STORY, A DIFFERENT DIFFERENT VERSION, AND WE GOT 60,000 WANTS. AND THEN YOU'VE GOT THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF OUTSIDE GROUPS ALLOWED TO TELL US WHAT TO DO. AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT VOICES OUT THERE, AND THERE'S NO ONE INDIVIDUAL OR NO ONE GROUP THAT REPRESENTS ALL OF THAT. SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE PEOPLE UP HERE, VERY DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS, DIFFERENT, UM, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT AREAS OF EXPERTISE, DIFFERENT, UM, INVOLVEMENTS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AND, AND, AND ABILITY TO HEAR DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE COMMUNITY TO BRING ALL THE, ALL THAT TOGETHER. AND, UH, BUT THIS GIVES US THAT OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN HOW TO GET BACK TO A COHESIVENESS THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST, BUT OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS WE HAVEN'T. AND IT'S FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT REASONS, AND THAT'S BEEN BEYOND A LOT OF PEOPLE'S CONTROL, BUT THE REALITY, IT IS A REALITY. SO WE LOOK NOW, WE DO HAVE A, A PERMANENT CITY MANAGER AND ONE WHO IS WELL EXPERIENCED. AND, UM, AS YOU JUST HEARD, HOW WE ADDRESSED SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS, THERE'S A FEW MOMENTS AGO, AND SOME OF THE MOST COHERENT THINGS I'VE HEARD IN A LONG TIME, LEMME PUT IT THAT WAY. UM, BUT, UH, UM, BUT THIS GIVES HIM THE FLEXIBILITY TO SEE HOW, HOW HE'S GONNA PROGRESS. AND HE'S DOING IT AS SAY, IN AN AREA OF, OF TRANSPARENCY, PUTTING IT OUT THERE IN THE OPEN AND SAYING, HERE'S, HERE'S KIND OF THE PLAN. NOW THIS IS PURELY A SKELETON AT THIS CASE. STILL GOTTA PUT, STILL GOTTA PUT SOME ORGANS ON IT AND SOME MEAT ON THE BONES AND SOME MUSCLE AND EVERYTHING ELSE TO MAKE THIS WHOLE THING WORK. BUT ONE STEP AT A TIME WITH THAT, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANNA SAY? YES, MAYOR. OKAY, GO AHEAD. GO FOR IT. THANK YOU, MAYOR. OF COURSE. UM, THEY'VE SAID IT ALL, BUT JUST WANTED TO THANK CM DOUG FOR LISTENING TO US. I THINK THIS HAS BEEN DONE IN A VERY THOUGHTFUL MANNER AND, UM, I LIKE TO SEE US, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, HAVE THAT COHESIVENESS, JUST LIKE WHAT THE MAYOR SAID. AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN THE, THE PLAN THAT YOU HAVE HERE, AND I AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER, I THINK WE HAVE A VERY LONG DISCUSSION EARLIER ABOUT THIS. AND, UM, SO, UM, I, I WILL, I KNOW THAT YOU LISTEN TO THOSE, UM, SUGGESTIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS. I, I HAVE HAD, BUT BASICALLY, UM, I THINK IT'S IN LINE WITH WHAT THEY HAVE SAID, SO THANK YOU MAYOR. [01:55:01] ALRIGHT, WITH THAT, WE DO HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. I DON'T SEE A CONTINUING DISCUSSION, SO COULD WE HAVE A, UH, A ROLL CALL? COUNCIL MEMBER ANI AYE. VICE MAYOR MOLINA? YES, MAYOR MORRISON. AYE. MOTION APPROVED. ALRIGHT, UM, NEXT [7.4 Letter of Support for Tidelands Avenue Electric Truck Hub Project] WE GO ON TO OUR LAST AGENDA ITEM ANYWAY OF SEVEN FOUR. THIS IS A LETTER OF SUPPORT FOR THE TYS AVENUE ELECTRIC TRUCK HUB PROJECT, AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE ANY COMMENTS FROM STAFF ON THIS OR CITY MANAGER. YEAH, SO, UH, THIS WAS, UH, UH, STAFF'S ATTEMPT AT, UH, DRAFTING A LETTER OF SUPPORT FOR THE, UH, TIDELAND AVENUE ELECTRIC TRUCK HUB PROJECT. UM, AS I SAID THIS, THIS IS A DRAFT DOCUMENT, SO, UM, I KNOW DURING THE BRIEFINGS WE RECEIVED SOME DIFFERENT INPUT FROM, FROM, UH, DIFFERENT COUNCIL MEMBERS ON, UM, SOME EDITS TO THE LETTER. UM, SO AT THIS POINT, I THINK, UM, I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR, FOR COUNCIL QUESTIONS. I, I KNOW THERE WERE, THERE WAS THIS, SOME SUGGESTIONS AND, AND THOSE SHOULD COME FROM, UM, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. OKAY, THANK YOU, MAYOR. I THINK I WOULD, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, AS PER THE DISCUSSION EARLIER OR, UM, THE BRIEFING EARLIER, I WOULD JUST, UM, HAVE THE, OUR CITY MANAGER COME BACK WITH THAT FINAL DRAFT, UM, OF A LETTER SO THEN WE CAN SEND IT TO, UM, THE AGENCY RIGHT AWAY. UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, BECAUSE OF COURSE THAT WOULD HELP THEM UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR POSITION WOULD BE. THANK YOU. I, I BELIEVE THERE'S A POINT OF CLARIFICATION THIS MATTER. MICROPHONE, ANOTHER MEETING, RIGHT? SO, UM, IF WE'RE GOING TO TAKE AN ACTION, IT WOULD BE TONIGHT IN ORDER TO GET IT OVER TO THEM IN TIME RIGHT BEFORE THE MATTER'S HEARD. SO HOW ABOUT, MAYBE, MAYBE WHAT I CAN DO IS, IS JUST, UM, SUGGEST THE EDITS TO THE LETTER THAT I HEARD IN THE BRIEFINGS AND, AND THEN THE COUNSEL CAN AUTHORIZE THOSE EDITS. YES. AND, UH, SIGNATURE. SO, UM, ESSENTIALLY IT WOULD BE TO REMOVE THE SECOND PARAGRAPH. UM, AND I THINK THERE WAS ALSO ANOTHER ITEM OF, UH, MOVING A FULL STATEMENT OF SUPPORT AT THE FRONT. THE WHOLE STATEMENT OF SUPPORT AT THE FRONT. YES. WHAT WAS THAT LAST WORD? A STATEMENT, UH, STATEMENT OF SUPPORT. SUPPORT, SUPPORT OF FRONT AT, AT THE, AT THE VERY, VERY FRONT. SO THAT, 'CAUSE IF WE REMOVE PARAGRAPH TWO, WE REMOVE , THE STATEMENT OF SUPPORT. OKAY. UM, SO THE SENTENCE, UH, CITY COUNCIL SUPPORTS THIS PROJECT WILL BE AT THE FOREFRONT. YES. OKAY. UM, SORRY. OKAY. AND, UH, YEAH, I, I WOULD DISAGREE WITH DOING THAT. UM, SINCE, I MEAN, WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF CONCERNS BROUGHT UP ON THIS AND EVERYTHING, AND SO TO BASICALLY SAYING THAT WE'RE WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORTING THIS WITHOUT ADDRESSING THE CONCERNS, I THINK IS, UH, IS RATHER DISINGENUOUS. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT WE HAD A PROJECT SEVERAL MONTHS AGO THAT CAME BEFORE US, WHICH WAS THE REFUELING STATION, AND IT CERTAINLY HAD A, A NUMBER OF NEGATIVES, BUT THE ONLY THING THAT WAS LOOKED AT THAT WAS NEGATIVES. NO POSITIVES ON THIS ONE. THE SAME ORGANIZATIONS ON THIS ONE LOOK AT ONLY THE POSITIVES, DON'T LOOK AT ANY OF THE NEGATIVES, AND THERE ARE TONS OF NEGATIVES. UM, I WAS, UH, IN A, UH, ROUND TABLE A A, UH, INDUSTRY ROUND TABLE DEAL TODAY, AND THE, UH, FIRE CHIEF WAS ALSO, AND IT WAS ENTITLED THE ESCALATING CRISIS OF LITHIUM, UH, ION, UH, BATTERY FIRES. UM, AND SO A HUGE CONCERN, WE ALL LOVE THE IDEA OF ELECTRIFICATION ALL ALONG THAT LINE, BUT PUTTING THAT MANY MOBILE LITHIUM POWER BANKS IMMEDIATELY, MR. MAYOR, WE HEARD THAT ALREADY. CAN WE GO TO THE LETTER PLEASE? UH, NO, WE CAN'T. YES, BECAUSE I'M, I'M SPEAKING RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU. NO, WE, MR. MAYOR, WE HEARD THIS ALREADY. OKAY. OKAY. WE HEARD THIS AND SO LET'S GO TO THE LETTER. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, AND THE, THE RECOMMENDATION FROM CITY MANAGER SAYS, OKAY, WAIT, THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY, I, SORRY, YOU DO NOT HAVE THE FLOOR. THANK YOU. SUPPORT THIS PROJECT. YOU ARE APPRECIATE YOU OUT OF ORDER. NO, I'M NOT OUT OF ORDER. WE ARE HEARD YOU ALREADY, WE KNOW YOU'RE NOT SUPPORTIVE OF THIS. YES. SO THIS LETTER IS NEEDED TO GO OUT AND WE NEED TO DISCUSS IT RIGHT NOW. OKAY. WHICH WE, WE DON'T NEED TO DISCUSS YOUR NEGATIVITY WITH REGARDS TO THAT PROGRAM. OKAY. OR TO THAT, TO THAT, UH, PROJECT. OKAY. WELL, WE NEED A LETTER OF SUPPORT AND THAT'S THE DIRECTION. OKAY? YOU'VE SPOKE NOW, THEN I WILL SPEAK, UH, AND WE OWE IT TO THE PEOPLE OF NATIONAL CITY TO BRING OUT ON PROJECTS LIKE THIS, TO BRING OUT NOT ONLY THE POSITIVES, BUT THE NEGATIVES. AND, AND IF WE DON'T, [02:00:02] THEN GOD FORBID, IF AN ACCIDENT HAPPENS, WE WILL END UP HAVING TO EVACUATE THE CITY. AND, YOU KNOW, THE DANGERS ARE THERE AND AS LONG AS WE LOOK AT 'EM AHEAD OF TIME, AND NOT ONLY THAT, BUT THE, THE, THE PORT IS GONNA BE EXPECTING OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT TO PROVIDING THEM AN INSURANCE POLICY THAT THEY WILL ONLY PAY FOR IF THERE'S AN ACCIDENT. BUT THE PEOPLE IN NATIONAL CITY ARE GONNA BE PAYING FOR THAT INSURANCE POLICY UP UNTIL, AND HEAVEN FORBID THERE EVER, EVER IS AN ACCIDENT, BUT WE WILL FRONT THAT FOR THE PORT SO THAT THEY CAN MAKE MONEY OFF THIS THING. THAT'S THE CONCERN I HAVE. AND SO THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO REASON TO TAKE THAT, THAT SECOND PARAGRAPH OUT. AND I, I COULD SUPPORT THIS LETTER WITH THE SECOND PARAGRAPH. I WOULD NOT SUPPORT IT WITHOUT THAT. UM, IS, IS THIS, UM, UM, CAN I PUT A MOTION TO APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION OF CITY MANAGER? WELL, I DON'T THINK THAT WAS A RECOMMENDATION TO HIM. HE WAS JUST REPORTING BACK WHAT CAME OUT OF THE, UH, MEETINGS. HE, HE, HE MADE A RECOMMEND A SUGGESTION OR A RECOMMENDATION TO REMOVE PARAGRAPH TWO AND PUT THE SUPPORT THIS PROJECT IN THE FIRST SENTENCE IN PARAGRAPH ONE. I THINK HE SAID THAT WAS WHAT WAS SUGGESTED IN SOME COUNCIL MEETINGS TODAY. HE JUST SAID IT. MAYOR, ARE YOU NOT LISTENING? I AM. I'M SORRY. WAS THAT A MOTION? THAT'S A MOTION. I, IF I'M CLEAR ON THE MOTION, UM, I WILL SUPPORT IT. CAN I, CAN I HAVE THE MOTION, RESTATED MOTION IS TO, TO UM, AGREE TO THE, UH, SUGGESTION OF CITY MANAGER TO REMOVE PARAGRAPH TWO, THE SECOND PARAGRAPH AND PUT THAT SUPPORT THIS PROJECT IN THE FIRST PART OF THE SENTENCE. ON THE FIRST PARAGRAPH. I DO SUPPORT THE MOTION. OKAY, SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND AND ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? LET'S HOPE FOR THE BEST. UM, DO WE HAVE ROLL CALL COUNCIL MARIA IMANI. AYE. VICE MAYOR MOLINA? YES. MAYOR MORRISON. NO. MOTION APPROVE BY TWO TO ONE VOTE. OKAY, WITH THAT THEN WE NOW GO ON TO, WE HAVE NO OTHER STAFF REPORTS AND WE DO NOT HAVE A SECTION SINCE IT'S SPECIAL MEETING. WE DON'T HAVE A SECTION HERE FOR COUNCIL COMMENTS OTHER THAN COME OUT AND ENJOY THE NATIONAL CITY, UH, FOR JULY FAIR STARTING TOMORROW NIGHT ALREADY. SO TOMORROW NIGHT THROUGH SUNDAY. UH, SO WITH THAT, UH, WE ARE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU, MAYOR, TO THE, UH, SPECIAL WORKSHOP WILL BE OUR NEXT MEETING ON JULY THE 21ST FROM THREE TO 6:00 PM. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.