May 21, 2026 Community and Police Relations Commission

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OFF MIC IS ON.

ALRIGHT, UM,

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

THERE ARE MULTIPLE WAYS YOU CAN MAKE SURE YOUR OPINIONS ARE HEARD AND CONSIDERED BY THE CPRC.

YOU CAN REGISTER TO SPEAK DURING A-C-P-R-C ZOOM MEETING.

SPEAKERS MUST REGISTER BY 4:00 PM THE DAY OF THE MEETING.

PUBLIC COMMENTS OR TESTIMONY IS LIMITED TO UP TO THREE MINUTES.

UH, AND SPEAKERS WILL NOT BE SHOWN ON VIDEO.

YOU CAN SUBMIT A WRITTEN COMMENT TO BE ENTERED INTO THE OFFICIAL MEETING RECORD BY EMAILING CPR C PUB COMMENT@NATIONALCITYCA.GOV BEFORE 4:00 PM ON THE DAY OF THE MEETING, AND PROVIDE THE AGENDA ITEM OR STATE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT IN THE SUBJECT LINE IF THE TOPIC IS NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA.

AND OF COURSE, YOU CAN JOIN US IN PERSON AND SUBMIT A SLIP TO, UH, SPEAK TO THE COMMISSION.

UH, DURING ONE OF OUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETINGS, I WOULD LIKE TO NOW CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER AT 6:05 PM UM, AS WE BEGIN THE MAY 21ST, 2026 COMMUNITY AND POLICE RELATIONS COMMISSION MEETING, I'D LIKE TO REQUEST THAT THE COMMISSION CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.

WHEN WALTER CALLS YOUR NAME, PLEASE UNMUTE YOUR MICROPHONE AND SAY, PRESENT OR HERE.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS IS ABSENT.

COMMISSIONER C*****G SERRANO.

HERE.

COMMISSIONER ROSALES PRESENT.

COMMISSIONER RICE PRESENT.

COMMISSIONER DUKA PRESENT.

COMMISSIONER BLACKWELL PRESENT.

COMMISSIONER MCCLURE HERE AND CHAIR ORT PRESENT.

I'D NOW LIKE TO ASK COMMISSIONER RICE IF IT'S OKAY WITH YOU, UM, TO LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, PLEASE RISE.

MY PLEASURE.

ALLEGIANCE TO, TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC, WHICH TO SEND DONATION UNDER GOD IN INVISIBLE LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.

ALL THANK YOU COMMISSIONER WRIGHT.

UM, MOVING ON TO AGENDA

[4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES – Regular Meeting of February 19, 2026]

GIVE EVERYONE A MINUTE OR TWO TO FLIP THROUGH IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THOSE MEETING MINUTES.

I WILL.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

THANK YOU.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, WALTER, WOULD YOU CALL THE VOTE PLEASE? OR ACTUALLY NO, WE ARE GONNA VOTE ON THE SCREEN.

OF COURSE.

CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS RESULT.

UM, MOVING

[5. PUBLIC COMMENT]

UM, WALTER, HAVE WE RECEIVED ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? UH, YES, WE DID.

WE RECEIVED ONE EMAIL THAT'S IN YOUR PACKET AND WE DO HAVE TWO, UH, PUBLIC SPEAKERS.

GREAT, THANK YOU.

SO REGARDING THAT ITEM THAT HAD BEEN EMAILED IN, THAT WILL BE ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD.

UM, AND THEN, UH, WALTER, DO YOU WANNA INVITE, UH, OUR REGISTERED SPEAKERS TO COME TO THE PODIUM? YEAH.

FIRST WE WILL HAVE, UH, JOHNNY JOANIE, JOANIE DEGROOT, SORRY, MAY I HAND JONIE APPROACH BENCH.

I WATCHED TRY.

WOULD YOU DO ME FAVOR? NOT ENOUGH.

AND JUST TO REMIND OUR SPEAKERS, WE HAVE THREE MINUTES FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

YEAH, I PRACTICE.

THANK YOU.

WELL, I'M JONI DERU AND AS MY HUSBAND HENRY DERU, YOU'LL SEE ON PAGE ONE, IT IS THE BEGINNING OF AN INVESTIGATION BY

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AND ON PAGE TWO IS THE COMPLAINT THAT WE FILED WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT 'CAUSE OF A FEW VERY SEEMINGLY BASIC DISAPPOINTMENTS AND WE'VE REALLY BEEN HURT.

UM, THE DRIVER WAS UNINSURED.

WE HAVE NO, UH, CURRENT LOCAL ADDRESS.

SO WE HAD TO HIRE TWO PRIVATE INVESTIGATORS, UM, TO FIND THAT.

AND IN ALL HONESTY, WE WOULD NOT HAVE TAKEN THE COURT APPROACH.

HAD THERE BEEN CONSEQUENCES, THERE WERE ZERO, NO TICKETS, NO FINES.

AND ON PAGE THREE IN RED, YOU CAN SEE, AND YOU GUYS KNOW THE RANGE OF OPTIONS WHEN A DRIVER IS UNINSURED AND THERE'S A SERIOUS INJURY ACCIDENT THAT WE ARE STILL DEALING WITH.

15, MY HUSBAND WAS TAKEN, UM, FROM THE FALLEN BICYCLE TO, UH, EIGHT AND A HALF HOURS OF, UH, PELVIC RECONSTRUCTIVE SURGERY.

AND WE WERE THE ONES WHO FOUND OUT, UM, THAT THE DRIVER WAS UNINSURED, THAT THERE WAS NO CURRENT ADDRESS INFORMATION TAILORED.

UM, SO WE'VE HAD TO DEAL WITH DEALING WITH MULTIPLE SYSTEMIC INFECTIONS AS A RESULT OF THE PELVIC FRACTURE AND THE EIGHT AND A HALF HOUR SURGERY.

AND, UM, APRIL 24TH, HE HAD THE HARDWARE REMOVED AND WE'RE HOPING THAT IT WILL UN HOUSE THE, UM, SSA AND STAPH AUREUS BACTERIA.

SO IT'S BEEN A LONG ROAD AND, UM, WE JUST KNOW THAT OFFICER STIC MISSED OUT ON SOME BASIC INFORMATION GATHERING AS WELL AS CHIEF HERNANDEZ.

I HAD BEEN IN TOUCH WITH THEM FOR MANY, MANY TIMES AND WE WERE NOT RESPONDED TO.

SO THIS IS VERY DIFFICULT AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOU FOLKS WORKING AT THE SYSTEMIC LEVEL.

SO THIS KIND OF PROTECTING AND SERVING WILL ACTUALLY HAPPEN.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

MR. GROUP.

WALTER, DID YOU SAY THERE WAS A SECOND REGISTERED SPEAKER? YES, WE HAVE HALLE OTHER .

OKAY.

UM, ALRIGHT.

UM, THE FIRST THING I HAVE TO DO IS ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I'M PRETTY NERVOUS.

I'VE NEVER LIKE DONE A PUBLIC COMMENT LIKE THIS BEFORE.

UM, I THINK THE MAIN THING THAT I'M UP HERE TO DO IS REALLY REINFORCE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT MY MOM JUST SAID, UM, INCLUDING THAT THIS WAS ESSENTIALLY AN ACCIDENT WHERE MY DAD WAS CUT OFF BY A DRIVER WHO DECIDED TO MAKE, UM, A RIGHT HAND TURN IN FRONT OF HIM AT AN INTERSECTION.

I THINK PEOPLE CALL IT A RIGHT HOOK, WHICH I DON'T THINK IS VERY FUNNY.

UM, WELL, I'M ALSO A CYCLIST, UM, BUT I DON'T FEEL SAFE BIKING ON THE ROADS ANYMORE.

UM, I GOT DOORED BY SOMEBODY AND HE'S HAD A COUPLE, THIS IS LIKE THE SECOND ACCIDENT, UM, BOTH INCIDENTS WHERE HE HAD IN NATIONAL CITY, BUT HE, UM, RODE HIS BIKE MY WHOLE LIFE AND, UM, DOESN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE DOING IT ANYMORE.

AND I DO BELIEVE A LOT OF THAT IS TO DO WITH JUST SORT OF THE GENERAL LACK OF ATTENTIVENESS IN DRIVERS THESE DAYS, BUT ALSO THE FACT THAT IT DOESN'T REALLY FEEL LIKE WHEN YOU'RE OUT ON THE ROAD, YOU KNOW, UM, WHO'S GOT YOUR BACK.

AND, UM, I, YOU KNOW, I'M OUT ON THE ROAD WHEN I DRIVE AND I'M THINKING ABOUT MY SAFETY.

UM, BECAUSE I GREW UP IN A FAMILY OF CYCLISTS.

I'M THINKING ABOUT EVERYONE ELSE ON THE ROAD, AND I'M ALSO THINKING ABOUT THE POLICE ON THE ROAD.

UM, JUST MAKING SURE I'M FOLLOWING THE RULES AND DOING MY BEST TO BE A SAFE, ATTENTIVE DRIVER.

AND, UM, WHEN I FOUND OUT FROM MY PARENTS THAT THIS PERSON WASN'T, UH, CITED FOR ANYTHING, UM, I DON'T EVEN, IT, IT'S SUCH AN UNDERSTATEMENT TO SAY THAT IT, IT P****D ME OFF.

IT, IT'S LIKE DISGUSTING TO ME TO KNOW THAT SOMEONE COULD ESSENTIALLY LIKE, GET AWAY WITH THIS.

AND, UM, AND IT'S JUST BIZARRE TO THINK THAT,

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AND KNOWING THAT SOMEONE COULD BE OUT THERE UNINSURED AND NEARLY LIKE MY DAD COULD HAVE DIED AS A RESULT OF THE INFECTIONS THAT HE HAD, THE INJURY ITSELF MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN THE MOST SEVERE THING.

BUT JUST THINKING THAT LIKE SOMEONE COULD HAVE BASICALLY, LIKE BY PROXY OF KILLED MY FATHER AND NOT HAVE EVEN BEEN CITED, IS JUST SUCH A BIZARRE THING TO EVEN BE SAYING.

UM, IT JUST, IT IT, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'RE AT A TIME IN THIS COUNTRY WHERE A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE KIND OF UNVEILING THE SHORTCOMINGS OF DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND, UM, THE POLICE ARE UNDER A LOT OF SCRUTINY.

AND WE JUST REALLY HOPE THAT THIS CAN BE PRODUCTIVE AND THAT THE POLICE CAN STEP INTO A ROLE WHERE THEY'RE FULLY ACCOUNTABLE TO THE PUBLIC AND DO SERVE EVERYONE'S INTEREST AND LOOK BETTER ON PAPER FOR THEIR OWN WORK AND CAN SAY BY THEIR OWN WORK.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MR. GRU.

UM, WALTER, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENTS? WE DO NOT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UM,

[6. APPROVAL OF EXCUSED ABSENCES]

UM, WALTER, DO WE HAVE ANY EXCUSED ABSENCES TO APPROVE? UM, IF YOU RECALL, IN FEBRUARY 19TH WHEN WE HAD OUR CPRC MEETING, UM, COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS HAD ANNOUNCED THAT HE WAS NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO MAKE IT, UH, TO THIS MEETING.

UM, AND IN REVIEWING THE, UH, OPERATING PROCEDURES AND THE CITY COUNCIL POLICY, UH, 1 0 7, UM, THAT IS TECHNICALLY AN EXCUSED ABSENCE BECAUSE IT'S 15 DAYS IN ADVANCE.

UM, SO WE WOULD NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE HIS EXCUSED ABSENCE.

GREAT, THANK YOU.

SO ACCORDING TO POLICY 1 0 7, WHICH ALLOWS ABSENCES TO BE, UH, APPROVED WITH 15 DAYS ADVANCE NOTICE, UM, IS THERE A MEMBER WHO WOULD LIKE TO BRING A MOTION TO APPROVE COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS'S REQUEST FOR AN EXCUSED ABSENCE FOR THE MAY 21ST MEETING TODAY? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

THANK YOU.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

THANK YOU.

IN A MOMENT YOU CAN CAST YOUR VOTE ON THE TOUCH SCREEN CARRIED BY THE VOTE OF FIVE YESES AND ONE RECUSED.

YES.

OKAY.

.

SO CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE .

UM, OKAY.

UM, I WOULD NOW LIKE TO ALLOW OUR TWO NEW COMMISSIONERS WHO HAVE JOINED THE COMMISSION SINCE OUR LAST MEETING TO BRIEFLY INTRODUCE THEMSELVES.

UM, COMMISSIONER BLACKWELL, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A WORD OF INTRODUCTION ABOUT YOURSELF AND HOW YOU ENDED UP HERE ON OUR COMMISSION? ABSOLUTELY.

WELL, HELLO FELLOW COMMISSIONERS AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.

UH, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ME.

I'M A 24-YEAR-OLD, UH, AIR FORCE VETERAN.

UM, I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN CHULA VISTA, BUT I DECIDED TO MOVE HERE IN JANUARY.

IN THE LAST FEW YEARS I'VE BEEN REALLY TRYING TO GET INVOLVED IN LOCAL POLITICS, STARTING AT THE COMMISSION LEVEL.

AND THANKFULLY THE MAYOR, UH, APPOINTED ME, YOU KNOW, AND I'M JUST VERY GRATEFUL TO BE HERE.

UH, IN TERMS OF EDUCATION, I GOT A BACHELOR'S IN POLITICAL SCIENCE AND I JUST GRADUATED FROM SAN DIEGO STATE WITH A MASTER'S IN PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION.

I'M GONNA START LAW SCHOOL IN AUGUST.

SO I THINK ALL OF THIS IS JUST REALLY AWESOME FOR ME TO BE HERE AND IT WILL CONTRIBUTE TO MY EDUCATION AND MY FUTURE GOALS OF WORKING FOR THE GOVERNMENT ULTIMATELY.

SO VERY GRATEFUL.

GREAT.

WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

COMMISSIONER BLACKWELL.

WELCOME.

WELCOME ABOARD.

UM, WELCOME COMMISSIONER RICE.

UH, GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY.

UH, MY NAME IS ROB RICE.

UH, I'VE BEEN WORKING FOR THE NAVY FOR 38 YEARS.

UM, PROBABLY GETTING READY TO RETIRE MAYBE NEXT YEAR OR NEXT YEAR, OR, UM, WHEN I DECIDE.

UM, I'VE BEEN LIVING IN NASHVILLE CITY FOR SINCE 2011.

I GREW UP IN PARADISE HILLS, UM, MOVED TO NASHVILLE CITY.

UM, I'VE HOSTED SEVERAL EVENTS HERE.

UH, I HOSTED THE BIG CAR SHOW IN THE PARK ONCE A YEAR, THE KIMMEL PARK CAR SHOW.

AND JUST KIND OF GOT TO KNOW, UH, RON MORRISON, THE COUNCIL MEMBERS A LITTLE BIT, THE POLICE GUYS, AND, UM, JUST THOUGHT I'D GET TO LEARN THE SYSTEM A LITTLE BIT MORE AND, AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS IN THE NEAR FUTURE FOR ME.

SO.

GREAT.

WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH COMMISSIONER RICE.

PLEASURE TO HAVE YOU ABOARD.

AND, UM, YEAH, HAPPY TO HAVE SOME, SOME NEW FACES UP HERE.

SO, UM,

[7. ELECTION OF OFFICERS – SELECT VICE CHAIR]

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UM, AS A REMINDER, THESE POSITIONS ARE, UH, ELECTED ON AN ANNUAL BASIS TO SERVE FOR THE CALENDAR YEAR.

UM, I NEED FIRST TO GET A MOTION TO ELECT A VICE CHAIR FOR THE REMAINDER OF CALENDAR YEAR 2026.

I'LL, I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

THANK YOU.

AND AGAIN, THIS IS JUST A MOTION TO SELECT SOMEONE.

I'LL SECOND THE MOTION.

THANK YOU.

EVERYONE CAN CAST THEIR BALLOTS ON THE SCREEN HERE.

HOPEFULLY THEY'RE WORKING.

CARRIED BY NAS VOTE.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

UM, SO THEN AT THIS POINT THEN, I THINK WE ACTUALLY GET TO SELECT THE VICE CHAIR.

SO THE FLOOR IS OPEN.

UM, IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A NOMINATION, CAN I NOMINATE JAKE AS THE VICE CHAIR? SO I HAVE A MOTION TO NOMINATE COMMISSIONERS INKA TO SERVE AS VICE CHAIR.

UM, IS THERE A SECOND ON THAT MOTION? I'LL SECOND.

OKAY.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

UM, SO WE'RE NOW VOTING ON THE SELECTION OF COMMISSIONERS ULKA TO SERVE AS VICE CHAIR FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE 2026 CALENDAR YEAR CARRIED BY UNITED WELL WITH ULKA ABSTAINING.

ALL RIGHT.

WELCOME VICE CHAIR ULKA.

THANK YOU.

[9. ESTABLISH BYLAWS AND OPERATING PROCEDURES SUBCOMMITTEE (Part 1 of 2)]

UM, DURING THE FEBRUARY 19TH CPRC MEETING, COMMISSIONER NOW, VICE-CHAIR ULKA SUBMITTED A REQUEST TO ESTABLISH THE BYLAWS AND OPERATING PROCEDURES SUBCOMMITTEE TO REVIEW AND RECOMMEND AMENDMENTS TO THE COMMISSION'S, BYLAWS AND OPERATING PROCEDURES.

UM, ACCORDING TO, UH, DOCUMENTATION, EACH SUBCOMMITTEE SHALL BE COMPOSED OF A MINIMUM OF TWO, BUT NOT MORE THAN THREE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.

UH, MEMBERS ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE SHALL BE APPOINTED BY THE CHAIRPERSON OF THE COMMISSION BY A MAJORITY VOTE OF THE COMMISSION SUBCOMMITTEE.

UH, POINT OF ORDER.

I ARE WE, NUMBER EIGHT, I BELIEVE, RELATES TO THE COMPLAINT REVIEW SUBCOMMITTEE.

SO WE'RE ON SEVEN.

WE WE DID SEVEN.

WE WERE, I WAS ELECTED VICE CHAIR, BUT THEN I THINK THERE'S EIGHT RELATED TO THE COMPLAINT REVIEW SUBCOMMITTEE.

OH, YES.

MY APOLOGIES.

I'M JUMPING AHEAD OF OURSELVES HERE.

SO WE ARE BACK ON AGENDA

[8. CPRC BYLAWS: ARTICLE V – COMPLAINT REVIEW SUBCOMITTEE]

SO HOLD ON.

UM, , DUE TO THE REPLACEMENT OF VICE CHAIR LESLIE AND COMMISSIONER GOMEZ ON THE CPRC, WE WILL NEED TO SELECT A NEW COMPLAINT REVIEW SUBCOMMITTEE, UH, TWO MEMBERS OF THE COMPLAINT REVIEW SUBCOMMITTEE FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE 2026 CALENDAR YEAR.

UM, THE TWO NEW MEMBERS WILL BE JOINING ME TO SERVE ON THE COMPLAINT REVIEW SUBCOMMITTEE.

UM, IS THERE ANYONE WHO IS INTERESTED IN BEING ON THAT SUBCOMMITTEE? TWO OR THREE? I WOULD LIKE TO DO I NEED TO, DO I NEED TO FIRST MAKE A MOTION TO SELECT THE TWO INDIVIDUALS? SORRY, I'M GONNA ASK A POINT OF CLARIFICATION.

YEAH.

BECAUSE I WAS NOT HERE BEFORE.

YES.

UM, YOUR A MEMBER OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE NOW, CORRECT? CORRECT.

ALRIGHT.

AND YOU'RE ALREADY HAVING THE TWO NEW MEMBERS.

ARE THEY JOINING YOU OR YOU'RE SAYING, I THOUGHT YOU JUST SAID THEY'RE JOINING YOU ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE.

NO, NO.

NO.

OKAY.

NO.

SO YOU'RE STILL LOOKING FOR YOUR NOMINATIONS? WE ARE LOOKING FOR TWO NOMINATIONS.

I MISHEARD WHAT YOU SAID.

NO, I THOUGHT YOU SAID YOU APPOINTED THE TWO OF THEM.

NO, THAT'S OKAY.

I'M DOWN TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.

SO WE'RE ALL, UH, NO, WE ARE STILL LOOKING FOR NOMINATIONS FROM TWO INDIVIDUALS TO SERVE AS SUBCOMMITTEE MEMBERS.

THANK YOU, SIR.

YOU BET.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE MYSELF, JARED BLACKWELL.

OKAY.

UM, I HAVE A MOTION TO HAVE, UH, COMMISSIONER BLACKWELL SERVE AS ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF THE COMPLAINT REVIEW SUBCOMMITTEE.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND IT.

OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

UM, SO THIS VOTE WILL BE, UH, TO SELECT COMMISSIONER BLACKWELL TO SERVE AS ONE OF THE THREE SUBCOMMITTEE MEMBERS CARRIED BY NOW AS VOTE WITH BLACKWELL ABSTAINING.

ALL RIGHT.

AND THEN WE HAVE ONE ADDITIONAL SEAT ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE AVAILABLE.

UM, IS THERE, I WOULD, I WOULD NOMINATE, UH, COMMISSIONER KIMBERLY COMING.

SERRANO.

I HAVE A MOTION TO

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IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

THANK YOU.

I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

UM, WE CAN TAKE A VOTE NOW ON SELECTING COMMISSIONER CUMMINGS SERRANO TO SERVE AS A MEMBER OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS.

WELL WITH COMMISSIONER C*****G SERRANO ABSTAINING.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, COMMISSIONERS BLACKWELL AND C*****G SERRANO.

HAPPY TO HAVE YOU ABOARD THE SUBCOMMITTEE.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT NEXT STEPS LATER ON.

[9. ESTABLISH BYLAWS AND OPERATING PROCEDURES SUBCOMMITTEE (Part 2 of 2)]

VERY GOOD.

UM, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE, ESTABLISH BYLAWS AND OPERATING PROCEDURES SUBCOMMITTEE.

UM, DURING THE FEBRUARY 19TH CPRC MEETING, COMMISSIONERS, ULKA SUBMITTED A REQUEST TO ESTABLISH THE BYLAWS AND OPERATING PROCEDURE SUBCOMMITTEE TO REVIEW AND RECOMMEND AMENDMENTS.

EACH SUBCOMMITTEE SHALL BE COMPOSED OF A MINIMUM OF TWO, BUT NOT MORE THAN THREE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.

MEMBERS ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE SHALL BE APPOINTED BY THE CHAIRPERSON OF THE COMMISSION BY A MAJORITY VOTE OF THE COMMISSION SUBCOMMITTEE.

CHAIRPERSONS SHALL BE DESIGNATED BY THE CHAIRPERSON OF THE COMMISSION FROM AMONG THE COMMISSION MEMBERS APPOINTED TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE.

EACH SUBCOMMITTEE SHALL ELECT A VICE CHAIRPERSON AND SHALL ESTABLISH THE DATE, TIME, AND PLACE FOR MEETINGS TO CONDUCT THE SUBCOMMITTEE'S BUSINESS.

UM, ARE THERE ANY COMMISSIONERS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN BEING ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE TO REVISE THE OPERATING PROCEDURES AND BYLAWS? SORRY.

DO, DO WE HAVE TO VOTE TO ESTABLISH IT FIRST TO ESTABLISH THE SUBCOMMITTEE? YEAH.

UM, LAST MEETING, WE JUST VOTED TO PUT IT ONTO THE AGENDA, BUT WE DIDN'T ACTUALLY VOTE TO CREATE THE SUBCOMMITTEE.

SO I, UH, I I PREFER TO DO THAT FIRST.

YEAH.

CAN WE? GREAT.

SO THEN, UH, IS THERE A MOTION TO CREATE THE SUBCOMMITTEE FOR BYLAWS AND OPERATING PROCEDURES AMENDMENT AMENDING? I'D MAKE THAT MOTION.

ALL RIGHT.

MOTION FROM COMMISSIONERS ULKA.

IS THERE A SECOND? I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER BLACKWELL, EVERYONE PLEASE CAST YOUR BALLOTS FOR THE CREATION OF THE BYLAWS AND OPERATING PROCEDURES SUBCOMMITTEE.

TURN KAREN MAY AND I AS WELL.

ALRIGHT, WELL, NOW THAT WE HAVE DECIDED TO CREATE THAT SUBCOMMITTEE, UM, I THINK WE NOW GET TO CHOOSE WHO'S GONNA BE ON THAT SUBCOMMITTEE.

SO I BELIEVE, UH, ACCORDING TO OUR, UH, OPERATING PROCEDURES AND BYLAWS, UM, I'M ALLOWED TO APPOINT ANYONE TO THAT COMMITTEE.

BUT I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW IF ANYBODY HAS INTEREST IN BEING ON IT.

YEAH.

SINCE I RECOMMENDED, UH, WE CREATED IT, I WOULD LOVE TO BE ON IT AND SUPPORT THAT WORK.

WELL, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE WHO RECOMMEND IT AREN'T ALWAYS THE PEOPLE WHO VOLUNTEERED THEN.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

COMMISSIONERS ULKA.

UM, ANYONE ELSE INTERESTED IN SERVING ON THAT SUBCOMMITTEE? COMMITTEE OF ONE, I GUESS, RIGHT.

? I THINK WE ACTUALLY ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE TWO .

IS IT POSSIBLE FOR ME TO BE PART OF TWO SUBCOMMITTEES ONLY BEFORE YOU START LAW SCHOOL? NO, I'M KIDDING.

YEAH, THAT'S FINE.

.

UM, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY PROHIBITION AGAINST THAT, SO IF COMMISSIONER BLACKWELL, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, UM, I'D BE HAPPY TO, TO HAVE HIM JOIN.

I'M VERY MUCH INTERESTED.

GREAT.

SO WE HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST TWO AND CAN HAVE UP TO THREE.

SO JUST WONDERING IF ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO HOP ON BOARD.

I'LL HOP ON BOARD.

ALRIGHT.

COMMISSIONER RICE.

THANK YOU.

UM, SO WE'VE GOT THREE INDIVIDUALS.

I'D LIKE TO BRING A MOTION TO APPROVE COMMISSIONERS, RICE, ULKA, AND BLACKWELL, UM, TO SERVE ON THE OPERATING PROCEDURES AND BYLAWS.

SUBCOMMITTEE.

UM, CAN I GET A, UH, CAN I GET A MOTION FOR THAT OR WE'RE VOTING ALREADY? UM, I MEAN, I KNOW WE'RE FAIRLY CERTAIN ABOUT HOW IT'S GONNA COME OUT.

EACH ONE INDIVIDUALLY.

OH, EACH ONE INDIVIDUALLY? YEAH.

OKAY.

'CAUSE IF SOME, IF SOMEBODY SAID, OH, I WANT, GOT YOU.

MY APOLOGIES.

SO IN THAT CASE THEN, UM, WE WILL TAKE A VOTE ON, UH, I JUST WORKED MY WAY DOWN HERE.

UH, COMMISSIONER BLACKWELL JOINING THE SUBCOMMITTEE? NO, THAT I WILL MAKE THAT MOTION.

HOLD ON, HOLD ON, HOLD ON.

I'M NOT GIVING ME THE, NOT GIVING THE OPTION TO RESET.

NO.

OKAY.

YEAH, YEAH.

ALRIGHT.

OKAY.

WE'RE GOOD.

TECHNICAL.

THAT'S OKAY.

ONE MOTION.

SO WERE THE MOTIONS, DO WE NEED A MOTION TO NOMINATE EACH OF THEM OR CAN WE JUST NOT VOTE, VOTE ON EACH OF THEM.

1, 2, 3.

UM, EVERYBODY DID SORT OF A NOMINATION PROCESS.

UM, NOW YOU CAN VOTE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

HAVE,

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OKAY.

FANTASTIC.

SO NOW WE DID IT, DID WE ALREADY DO BLACKWELL? WE DID.

OKAY.

YEAH.

OKAY.

BLACKWELL.

ALRIGHT.

ALRIGHT.

SO ONE OUTTA THREE IS DOWN.

UM, SO NOW, UH, COMMISSIONERS ULKA, UH, THE MOTION IS TO APPOINT COMMISSIONERS ULKA TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE.

IF EVERYONE WOULD PLEASE CAST YOUR BALLOTS.

IS THERE A MOTION? WHO MADE THE MOTION FOR THE, IT'S, IT'S THE SAME.

YES.

OKAY.

SO'S ALL GOT IT.

YEAH.

GOT IT.

GOT IT.

GOT IT.

IT'S CONSIDERED THE SAME OFF OF WHAT THEY DID FOR THE REGULAR FUNCTION.

GOT IT.

CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

AND THEN LASTLY, UH, THE VOTE ON APPOINTING COMMISSIONER RICE TO SERVE ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE.

I, EVERYBODY UNANIM VOTE WITH RICE ABSTAINING.

ALRIGHT, CONGRATULATIONS.

UH, HAPPY TO HAVE THE SUBCOMMITTEE APPOINTED AND, AND WE'LL JUST ADVISE YOU, AS YOU MAY ALREADY KNOW, UNDER THE BROWN ACT WHEN THE THREE OF YOU ARE MEETING, YOU MEET ALTOGETHER AS A SUBCOMMITTEE, BUT NO OTHER OTHER MEETINGS OUTSIDE OF THAT WITH EVERYBODY UNTIL YOU'RE PRESENTING ITEMS BEFORE THE CPRC IN WHATEVER MEETING, WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT BECAUSE OTHERWISE YOU COULD GET IN TROUBLE WITH THE BROWN ACT.

SO JUST A QUICK REMINDER.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ALWAYS GOOD TO HAVE BROWN ACT REMINDERS.

UM, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER

[10. AMEND NATIONAL CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT POLICY MANUAL, CHAPTER 10, POLICY 1010]

UM, DURING THE FEBRUARY 19TH CPRC MEETING COMMISSIONERS, ULKA SUBMITTED A REQUEST TO RECOMMEND AMENDING NATIONAL CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT POLICY MANUAL CHAPTER 10, POLICY 10 10 TO REQUIRE THE ESTABLISHMENT OF AN ELECTRONIC COMPLAINT FORM THAT ALLOWS INDIVIDUALS TO SUBMIT COMPLAINTS AND UPLOAD ATTACHMENTS VIA THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S WEBSITE.

UM, PLEASE NOTE THAT ADDITIONAL MATERIAL WAS PROVIDED TO THE AGENDA FOR THIS ITEM, UH, WHICH ARE THE LAST FEW PAGES OF YOUR PACKET.

AND SO I WILL NOW OPEN THIS ITEM UP FOR DISCUSSION.

I'M HAPPY TO START.

THAT'S OKAY WITH THE CHAIR, PLEASE.

GREAT.

SO I MADE THIS, I WANTED TO PUT THIS ITEM ON OUR AGENDA SO WE COULD DISCUSS RECOMMENDING, UM, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT CREATE OR ESTABLISH AND MAINTAIN AN ELECTRONIC COMPLAINT FORM.

UM, JUST FOR A LITTLE BACKGROUND, THE CPRC IS AUTHORIZED TO ADVISE ON POLICE OPERATIONS AND POLICE POLICY, WHICH THIS FALLS UNDER.

UM, THE CURRENT SYSTEM IS A BIT OUTDATED.

THE ONLY WAY TO, THE FORMAL WAY TO SUBMIT A COMPLAINT TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS TO PRINT OUT A FORM.

I I INCLUDED IT HERE.

UM, AS PART OF THE MATERIAL AND PER THE INSTRUCTIONS, YOU COULD EITHER MAIL IT IN, WHICH MEANS GOING TO THE POST OFFICE OR GOING TO A POST, UH, MAILBOX OR DROPPING IT OFF AT THE POLICE STATION, WHICH I COULD UNDERSTAND THAT MANY OF THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY SUBMITTING COMPLAINTS TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT MIGHT NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE DOING THAT AT THE STATION AND MAIL SERVICE.

WHILE IMPORTANT IS A BIT OUTDATED.

SO ALSO JUST WANTED TO MENTION THIS RECOMMENDATION IS NOT TO REMOVE THE PAPER FORM.

IT'S STILL VI IT'S STILL NECESSARY.

THERE'S MANY MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT DON'T HAVE SMARTPHONES, DON'T HAVE INTERNET ACCESS.

SO I'M NOT ASKING TO REPLACE THIS, BUT JUST TO SUPPLEMENT THE WAY MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY CAN SUBMIT COMPLAINTS TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

UM, IT'S 2026, EVERYONE HAS A SMARTPHONE.

THERE'S MANY MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY, INCLUDING STUDENTS AT SWEETWATER HIGH SCHOOL WHO HAVE NEVER KNOWN WHAT IT'S LIKE TO NOT HAVE A SMARTPHONE.

AND THESE INCIDENCES THAT RISE TO COMPLAINTS BEING SUBMITTED TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAPPEN QUICKLY.

BUT THEN ALSO THERE'S SO MUCH EVIDENCE OUT THERE, PHOTOS, VIDEOS, UM, TEXT MESSAGES, THINGS THAT COULD EASILY BE UPLOADED AND SUBMITTED ALL THROUGH A SMARTPHONE, ALL POTENTIALLY THE SAME NIGHT AN INCIDENT HAPPENS.

I DID DO SOME RESEARCH, UM, TO SEE WHAT OTHER POLICE DEPARTMENTS ARE DOING IN OUR REGIONAL AREA.

OF COURSE, LARGER CITIES LIKE CITY OF SAN DIEGO AND CHULA VISTA HAVE ONLINE COMPLAINT FORMS, BUT ALSO SMALLER MUNICIPALITIES WITHIN OUR COUNTY, INCLUDING LA MESA AND OCEANSIDE.

THERE ARE A LITTLE, THERE'S SOME DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THOSE ONLINE COMPLAINT FORMS. FOR INSTANCE, LA MESA ACTUALLY ALLOWS THE UPLOADING OF FILES, INCLUDING VIDEOS, PHOTOS, CHULA VISTA DOES NOT.

SO THAT'S ONE BREAK THAT I'VE SEEN.

UM, I DIDN'T NECESSARILY RECOMMEND THAT YOU ADOPT THAT PART OF IT RIGHT NOW BASED ON THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE BECAUSE I THINK IT WARRANTS A DISCUSSION ON HOW TO STRUCTURE THAT ONLINE COMPLAINT FORM.

BUT ULTIMATELY THIS WOULD EXPAND ACCESS.

I THINK IT WOULD BUILD CREDIBILITY WITH BETWEEN THE

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UM, I'LL, I'LL ALSO JUST MENTION WHEN I WAS DOING MY RESEARCH, I DID REACH OUT TO THE DIFFERENT MUNICIPALITIES.

SO I SPOKE WITH INDIVIDUALS AT THE CHULA VISTA POLICE DEPARTMENT, UM, TO GAIN THEIR INSIGHT.

ALSO OCEANSIDE AND THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO.

I REACHED OUT TO LA MESA, BUT I NEVER GOT, UM, CON FEEDBACK OR RESPONSES FROM THEM.

UM, JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND TO OCEANSIDE AND I THINK CHULA VISTA HAS HAVE HAD ONLINE POLICE COMPLAINT FORMS FOR 10 YEARS.

RIGHT.

THE TECHNOLOGY HAS BEEN OUT THERE, UM, BUT OURS IS A BIT OUTDATED.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M KIND OF BRINGING THIS TO THE COMMISSION TO MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION.

HOPEFULLY, WHETHER IT'S THIS VOTE TODAY, IF WE VOTE TO RECOMMEND THIS LANGUAGE, MAYBE THAT BUILDS A DISCUSSION BETWEEN THE DEPARTMENT AND THE COMMISSION ON HOW TO STRUCTURE THIS ONLINE COMPLAINT FORM, HOW TO ROLL IT OUT, UM, SO IT COULD SERVE THE COMMUNITY.

AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE RESEARCH I DID, UM, OR DISCUSS ANY MORE THOUGHTS IF ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONERS, ULKA, EXCUSE ME, VICE-CHAIR, ULKA.

UM, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WHO HAVE COMMENTS OR SPECIFICALLY QUESTIONS FOR COMMISSIONER ULKA? SO, JUST TO CONFIRM, THE CONTENT OF THE COMPLAINT FORM HAS NOT CHANGED.

IT'S SIMPLY JUST MAKING IT MORE ACCESSIBLE.

THE DISCRETIONS THERE ON THE PART OF THE DEPARTMENT, I MEAN, WE'RE MAKING RIGHT NOW AT THIS STAGE, UM, MOTION, I'M KIND OF, OR WHAT I'M BRINGING TO THE COUNT COMMISSION IS TO MAKE THIS BROAD RECOMMENDATION THAT THE DEPARTMENT START LOOKING INTO DEVELOPING THIS ONLINE COMPLAINT FORM, WHAT THE FINAL PRODUCT LOOKS LIKE.

I MEAN, I'M HAPPY IF THAT'S A DISCUSSION BETWEEN THE COMMISSION AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

ULTIMATELY THE, THE DECISIONS ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH APPROVAL, I'M SURE FROM THE CITY COUNCIL FOR BUDGETARY REASONS.

UM, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FINAL, BUT I WOULD IMAGINE, AGAIN, LIKE LA MESA, I BELIEVE CITY OF SAN DIEGO TOO, THIS ONLINE COMPLAINT FORM, YOU COULD UPLOAD EVERYTHING.

SO AN INDIVIDUAL THAT WANTS TO FILE A COMPLAINT AGAINST THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FIVE SECONDS AFTER THEY, YOU KNOW, ENCOUNTER POLICE, THEY COULD TAKE OUT THEIR SMARTPHONE, GO ON THE WEBSITE, TYPE EVERYTHING UP, UPLOAD THE VIDEOS THEY TOOK FIVE MINUTES AGO, AND EVERYTHING GETS SENT.

AND I THINK IT'S MORE EFFICIENT THAT WAY.

I THINK IT'S EASIER.

YOU KNOW, I, I HAVE HORRIBLE HANDWRITING, SO IF YOU EVER GOT A COMPLAINT FROM ME, I DON'T THINK YOU'D BE ABLE TO READ IT.

UM, SO I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF BENEFITS TO IT.

UM, BUT YEAH, I DON'T KNOW.

THE FINAL FORMAT.

AND JUST TO DIRECT FOLKS' ATTENTION, THE LAST COUPLE OF PAGES IN THE ADDITIONAL MATERIALS PACKET INCLUDES, UM, SCREENSHOTS OR, OR COPIES OF WHAT THE LA MESA FORM INCLUDES.

AND THEN YOU'LL ALSO SEE THE COMMISSION ITEM REQUEST FORM THAT COMMISSIONER VICE CHAIRS ULKA SUBMITTED FOR THE FEBRUARY MEETING, UM, AS WELL AS THE PROPOSED AMENDED LANGUAGE THAT WOULD BE RECOMMENDED TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ON THAT PAGE.

SO, UM, THAT ITALICIZED, UH, LANGUAGE THERE IS THE ADDITIONAL PROPOSED LANGUAGE THAT WOULD BE ADDED.

YEAH, AND I TOOK THOSE TOO BECAUSE THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO ON THE OCEAN SIDE, THE PLATFORM THEY USE, THEY USE THE SAME PLATFORM.

I WASN'T ABLE TO PRINT IT OUT.

THERE WAS NO WAY TO PRINT OUT THE FORM.

UM, AND I WOULD JUST SAY, UM, VICE COMMISSIONERS ULCA, UH, YOU JUST MADE A STATEMENT.

BASICALLY THIS IS THE PROCESS AND WE'LL DECIDE WHAT THE FORM LOOKS LIKE GOING ON.

THE RECOMMENDATION IS YOU MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AND THEY WILL TAKE IT.

SO I THINK IT'S PREMATURE TO SAY THAT THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD EVEN BE ADOPTED.

UM, SO I I I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE NO ONE'S JUMPING AHEAD.

RECOMMENDATION GOES TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THEY WILL ANALYZE IT, THEY CAN DO A REPORT BACK, UM, WHICH IS PROBABLY NECESSARY BECAUSE A COUPLE OF YOUR STATEMENTS MAY NOT BE FACTUALLY ACCURATE AS TO THE NATIONAL CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT.

AND I DON'T MEAN LIKE YOU'RE TRYING TO SAY SOMETHING, BUT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT THE PROCESS IS, WE PROBABLY DON'T KNOW IT YET.

UM, AND SO RIGHT NOW IT WOULD BE A RECOMMENDATION TO GO TO THE, TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO HAVE THEM PROBABLY REPORT BACK TO US, UM, WITH WHAT INFORMATION THEY HAVE, UM, RELATED TO THE RECOMMENDATION.

IT IS NOT THAT IT WILL HAPPEN, AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IN TERMS OF YOUR LANGUAGE, THAT NOBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT IF YOU PUT THIS FORWARD, IT'S IT'S, IT'S GOING TO BE DONE.

NO, I, YEAH, YEAH.

FROM, I I, I'M PRE I THOUGHT I SAID IT BEFORE, THAT OUR, OUR ROLE IS TO MERELY ADVISE ON POLICY AND OPERATIONS.

SO THAT'S ULTIMATELY, AND I I DID SAY THAT THE DEPARTMENT IS THE DECISION MAKER ON ANYTHING.

YEAH, WE COULD RECOMMEND THE POLICY, WE COULD RECOMMEND THIS POLICY.

THEY COULD CONSIDER, OR THEY COULD SAY WE'RE NOT GONNA CONSIDER IT.

THEY COULD DO WHATEVER THEY WANT.

BUT WE'RE, AS THE COMMISSION OVERSEEING POLICE OPERATIONS, MAKING A RECOMMENDATION THAT THEY ADOPT THIS COMPLAINT POLICY TO INCLUDE ELECTRONIC COMPLAINT SUBMISSION.

SO I, I, I THOUGHT I MADE IT CLEAR THAT IT WAS JUST THE DEPARTMENT THAT HAS THE ULTIMATE DECISION AND WE'RE MERELY RECOMMENDING POLICY.

THANK YOU.

I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR BECAUSE SUBSEQUENT TO THAT STATEMENT, THERE WAS ANOTHER STATEMENT ABOUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT FORM IT'S GONNA TAKE YET.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE IT GOT CONFUSING.

AND I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO BE CONFUSED ABOUT IT.

I WANT OUR SYSTEM TO BE CLEAR AND I THINK THAT'S GREAT.

THANK YOU.

WHAT YOU JUST SAID AT

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THAT WAS GREAT.

ALRIGHT, UM, ADDITIONAL COMMENTS, QUESTIONS FROM ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS? ONE SECOND.

OKAY.

UM, WE'RE SEEING NONE THEN.

UM, IS THERE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND AMENDING POLICY? 10.

10? YEAH, I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

THERE IS A MOTION FROM VICE CHAIRS ENDA.

IS THERE A SECOND? I WILL SECOND THAT.

SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER BLACKWELL.

UM, WE ARE NOW TAKING A VOTE ON A RECOMMENDATION TO AMEND POLICY.

10 10 CARRIED BY YOUR NOW'S VOTE.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY

[11. AB481 REPORT]

WE ARE NOW ON TO AGENDA ITEM AB 4 81 REPORT.

UM, WE WILL NOW HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM NCPD REGARDING ASSEMBLY BILL 4 81 MILITARY EQUIPMENT.

USE THE 2025 ANNUAL REPORT.

OH WELL PODIUM.

MIC, PODIUM, MIC.

GEEZ MY GOSH, I KNEW THAT.

LIEUTENANT SPRINGER, YOU'RE HOT.

ALRIGHT.

ALRIGHT.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, SIR.

ALRIGHT.

GOOD EVENING.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

UM, OR HAVING THE NATIONAL CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT HERE TO PRESENT ON THIS.

MY NAME IS KEN SPRINGER.

I'M A LIEUTENANT WITH THE NATIONAL CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT.

I'VE BEEN A POLICE OFFICER HERE FOR 27 YEARS.

I CURRENTLY SERVE AS THE NIGHT SHIFT WATCH COMMANDER AND ALSO THE COMMANDING OFFICER OF THE NCPD SWAT TEAM.

I'M HERE TODAY TO PRESENT THE ANNUAL REPORT FOR THE DEPARTMENT'S MILITARY EQUIPMENT AND TO SEEK APPROVAL AND ADOPTION BY RESOLUTION.

THE CONTINUED USE OF MILITARY EQUIPMENT IS DEFINED IN ASSEMBLY BILL 4 81 BY APPROVAL OF THE POLICY TO ACCEPT AND PROVE THE AB 4 81 ANNUAL REPORT AND TO ACCEPT AND APPROVE THE UPDATED PROCEDURE THAT GOES ALONG WITH IT.

EFFECTIVE JANUARY 1ST, 2022 ASSEMBLY BILL 4 81 REQUIRES LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES TO OBTAIN APPROVAL FROM THE CITY'S GOVERNING BODY, WHICH IS THE MAYOR AND THE CITY COUNCIL BY ADOPTION OF A MILITARY EQUIPMENT USE POLICY PRIOR TO TAKING CERTAIN ACTIONS RELATED TO THE USE FUNDING OR ACQUISITION OF SPECIFIED EQUIPMENT.

ON APRIL 15TH, 2025, THE MAYOR AND THE CITY COUNCIL, THE NASHVILLE CITY OF NASHVILLE CITY, APPROVED RESOLUTION 2024 DASH 26.

THE DEPARTMENT'S MILITARY EQUIPMENT USE POLICY AND PROCEDURE.

THIS APPROVAL ENABLED THE CREATION OF POLICY 7 0 6 AND PROCEDURE 7 0 6 IN REGARD TO THE USE OF MILITARY EQUIPMENT FROM THIS ADOPTED RESOLUTION.

AND ACCORDING TO ASSEMBLY BILL 4 81, AN ANNUAL REPORT IS TO BE SUBMITTED TO THE MAYOR AND THE CITY COUNCIL FOR CONTINUED APPROVAL OF THOSE POLICIES THAT I JUST TOLD YOU ABOUT, THE ADOPTION OF THE MILITARY EQUIPMENT USE POLICY, PROCEDURE AND ANNUAL REPORT CONTINUES THE ABILITY FOR OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT TO UTILIZE THESE TOOLS AND RESOURCES TO RESPOND TO CRITICAL INCIDENTS AND PROTECT THE COMMUNITY.

2025 ANNUAL REPORT DOCUMENTS HOW THE EQUIPMENT WAS USED, IF THERE WERE ANY COMPLAINTS OR CONCERNS, THE RESULTS OF INTERNAL AUDITS, THE ANNUAL COST, THE QUANTITY OF EQUIPMENT, AND ANY FUTURE ACQUISITIONS BEING REQUESTED.

AS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT THE SWAT TEAM USED DURING THE PERIOD OF JANUARY, 2025 TO JANUARY, 2026, THE FOLLOWING EQUIPMENT WAS USED EITHER FOR TRAINING OR DURING A CRITICAL INCIDENT.

THESE ARE JUST A FEW HIGHLIGHTS.

TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE AT A GLANCE.

SO YOU CAN SEE THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, WE RES WE RESPONDED TO SIX CRITICAL INCIDENTS AND ALL OF THOSE CRITICAL INCIDENTS WE DEPLOYED OUR ARMORED VEHICLE.

LIKEWISE,

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WE DEPLOYED CHEMICAL AGENTS FOR TRAINING.

WE DEPLOYED THE, UH, THE ARMORED VEHICLE ON ALL OF THOSE, UH, TRAINING DAYS, WHICH WE HAVE 12 TRAINING DAYS IN THE YEAR.

SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE HOW THAT WORKS OUT.

CONTAINED IN THE ANNUAL REPORT IS ATTACHMENT A, WHICH LISTS THE ITEMS WE ARE REQUESTING FOR APPROVAL.

THIS YEAR.

WE ARE LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY OBTAINING A LEMUR TWO, UH, UAS, WHICH IS A SMALL UNMANNED AERIAL SYSTEM OR, OR SIMILAR.

AND THAT COST, UH, IS GONNA BE THROUGH U UH, UASI OR WHAT WE CALL UI GRANT FUNDS.

AND THE AMOUNT WOULD BE $17,000.

SO THAT DOES NOT COME OUT OF OUR BUDGET.

IT COMES FROM A GRANT.

UH, THE OTHER ITEM THAT WE'RE SEEKING APPROVAL ON IS A LANCO BEARCAT G THREE ARMORED RESCUE VEHICLE, WHICH IS ALSO GRANT FUNDED THROUGH U OS E GRANT FUNDS.

UH, THAT COST US $446,000 AND OF COURSE THERE'S $11 AS IN ADDITION THAT, UM, AND WE WOULD BE SEEKING THAT ALSO THROUGH, UH, ASSET FOR FORFEITURE FUNDS IN THE AMOUNT OF $86,179 AND 71 CENTS FOR THE GRAND TOTAL OF $532.

$190 AND 71 CENTS, AGAIN, DOES NOT COME OUT OF OUR BUDGET.

IT COMES FROM GRANTS THAT ARE OUT THERE FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT TO BE ABLE TO, UH, OBTAIN THESE ITEMS THAT WE WOULD PROBABLY NOT OTHERWISE BE ABLE TO OBTAIN BECAUSE OF THE COST, THE NATIONAL SAFE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING FOR APPROVAL AND ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTION TO CONTINUE UTILIZING THESE VALUABLE TOOLS TO PROTECT THE COMMUNITY.

IN DOING SO, THE DEPARTMENT WILL BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN OUR OPERATIONAL READINESS AND OUR ABILITY TO RESPOND TO CRITICAL INCIDENTS IN A SAFE AND EFFECTIVE MANNER.

AND THAT'S IT.

IF YOU HAD ANY QUESTIONS, I THINK ANSWER, UM, THANK YOU LIEUTENANT SPRINGER.

JUST AS TO CLARIFY, DID YOU ALL ALREADY DELIVER THIS REPORT TO THE CITY COUNCIL? DID THAT TAKE PLACE ALREADY? WE, UH, WE HAD IT ON THE AGENDA AND THEY WANTED IT TO BE, UH, PRESENTED TO THE CPRC PRIOR TO GOING BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

IT HAS BEEN DELIVERED TO A COMMUNITY BOARD ALREADY, AND THEY WERE GRATEFUL FOR THAT.

WE GOT A LOT OF GOOD RESPONSE BACK.

OKAY, GREAT.

AND SO THE, THE COUNCIL HAD RECOMMENDED THAT IT BE PRESENTED HERE TO THE CPRC AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR COMMISSIONERS TO ASK QUESTIONS AND IT WOULD GO BACK TO, TO THE COUNCIL FOR THEIR, FOR THEIR VOTE? THAT'S CORRECT.

GREAT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UM, QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS? I HAVE, I HAVE SOME COMMENTS? YES, PLEASE, COMMISSIONER.

THANK YOU.

UM, FIRST I JUST WANT TO POINT OF CLARIFICATION, I DID REVIEW THE ANNUAL MILITARY EQUIPMENT REPORT FOR 2025 AND THE ATTACHED POLICY, BUT I KNOW FOR OUR MEETING TODAY, THE AGENDA ONLY INCLUDED YOUR POWERPOINT PRESENTATION.

SO I JUST WANTED TO SEE WHETHER ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS ALSO, I I, I JUST WATCHED THE HEARING YOU JUST, OR THE COUNCIL MEETING THAT YOU MENTIONED THE OTHER DAY.

SO I, I KNEW THAT IT WAS THERE, SO I JUST PULLED IT.

UM, BUT I JUST WANTED TO ASK IF ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS ACTUALLY WERE ABLE TO ACCESS AND REVIEW THE REPORT, NOT JUST THIS POWERPOINT PRESENTATION.

I I CAN ADD TO THAT THE, SO THE CURRENT REPORT IS NOT ONLINE, BUT ONCE THE, THE CURRENT REPORT IS APPROVED, IT'S ALWAYS POSTED ONLINE.

YES.

SO LAST YEAR'S REPORT IS ONLINE AND IT'S AVAILABLE TO NOT ONLY, UH, THE MEMBERS HERE, BUT THE PUBLIC.

RIGHT.

AND I JUST, BECAUSE TODAY WE'RE REVIEWING THE PROPOSED 'CAUSE, THE 2025 REPORT, THE DRAFT REPORT, WHATEVER WE WANT TO CALL IT, WAS PUBLICLY POSTED THROUGH THE COUNCIL MEETING THAT HAPPENED IN AGENDA, UH, IN APRIL ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA.

SO I'M JUST KIND OF WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS WERE ABLE TO REVIEW IT, RECEIVE IT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT, IT WASN'T PART OF THEIR AGENDA.

WE ONLY HAD THE POWERPOINT PRESENTATION.

OKAY.

AND THEN, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS JUST MAYBE AN OVERSIGHT THAT WE DIDN'T GET THE FULL REPORT BECAUSE I, I THOUGHT THE CITY COUNCIL ASKED FOR US TO REVIEW THE 2025, THE PROPOSED 2025 REPORT.

UM, BUT THE ONLY MATERIAL THAT WE GOT WAS THE POWERPOINT.

BUT I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.

UM, FIRST JUST CLARIFICATION, THE POWERPOINT MENTIONED

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BUT I DID SEE IN THE, THE THIS 2025 REPORT THAT, THAT THE DEPARTMENT WAS REQUESTING THE PURCHASE OF A LEMUR TWO SUAS.

IS THAT ACCURATE? CORRECT.

BECAUSE I, I KNOW I THINK THE ONE, BECAUSE THE ONE I'M LOOKING AT SAYS IT COST LIKE $69,000.

UM, BUT OKAY.

SO THAT'S THE ONLY ONE YOU'RE, OKAY, THAT'S HELPFUL.

THEN.

I JUST WANTED TO GO BACK.

I KNOW NORMALLY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DOES HOLD A PUBLIC AT LEAST ONE PUBLIC EVENT RELATED TO THE RELEASE OF THIS, THE MILITARY REPORT.

SO I JUST WANTED TO ASK W HOW DOES THE DEPARTMENT NORMALLY ADVERTISE AND PUB PUBLICIZE THAT EVENT? IT'S PUT ON THE CALENDAR.

SO IT'S ON OUR WEBSITE, THE, THE NASHVILLE CITY WEBSITE, UM, I BELIEVE 30 OR 60 DAYS IN ADVANCE.

CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH ONE, BUT IT'S, IT'S POSTED ON THE CALENDAR.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER METHODS OF COMMUNICATING TO THE PUBLIC THAT THIS COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, UM, MEETING IS OCCURRING? BECAUSE I KNOW YOU, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S VERY ACTIVE ON THEIR SOCIAL MEDIA.

'CAUSE I DO FOLLOW THEM.

UM, DO YOU, ARE YOU AWARE OF ANY OTHER MARKETING CAMPAIGNS THAT, AS FAR AS I KNOW, THAT'S THE REQUIREMENT.

NOT THAT WE COULDN'T PUT IT ON LIKE A SOCIAL MEDIA OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT THAT'S NOT CURRENTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING.

YEAH.

'CAUSE I, I KNOW THE STATUTE JUST TALKS ABOUT WELL, WELL-PUBLICIZED EVENT HAPPENING.

UM, I KNOW THAT WE REACH OUT TO CERTAIN COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT ALL OF THEM 'CAUSE THERE'S SO, SO MUCH WE OUT.

BUT WE DO REACH OUT TO, UH, KEY COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO SEE IF THEY'RE WILLING TO COME IN AND, AND VIEW THE, THE PRESENTATION.

GREAT.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND WHERE DO YOU NORMALLY HOLD THE EVENT THAT'S AT THE NASHVILLE CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY, UH, COMMUNITY ROOM.

OKAY.

WOULD, HAS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT EVER CONSIDERED HOLDING IT OFFSITE SOMEWHERE ELSE? A DIFFERENT CITY PROPERTY? AND I ONLY ASK 'CAUSE I KNOW SOME, SOME MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY FIND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO BE A LITTLE INTIMIDATING.

I'M SURE BY DESIGN PARTLY IT IS.

RIGHT.

YOU CAN'T LOOK THROUGH THE WINDOWS AND I GET THAT.

SO I WAS JUST WONDERING BECAUSE IT, IT IS SUPPOSED TO, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO, WELL PUBLICIZE AN EVENT AND REALLY ENCOURAGE MEMBERS TO COME OUT.

SO I JUST WAS CURIOUS IF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS EVER CONSIDERED HOLDING IT OFFSITE SOMEWHERE.

I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE AN ISSUE AT ALL.

RIGHT.

THE LET THIS GO DOWN.

AND SO I KNOW THE STATUTE REQUIRES YOU TO REPORT ON ANY COMPLAINTS OR CONCERNS RAISED ABOUT THE USE OF MILITARY EQUIPMENT.

I'M JUST CURIOUS HOW THE DEPARTMENT TRACKS THOSE.

UH, WELL, THEY WOULD, IF IT WERE A COMPLAINT THAT RESULTS IN AN INTERNAL AFFAIRS, UH, CASE, KIND OF WHAT YOU BROUGHT UP BEFORE WITH THE, WITH THE COMPLAINT PROCESS, THEN IT WOULD BE TRACKED THROUGH THAT.

UH, IF IT'S A GENERAL COMPLAINT WHERE IT DOESN'T RISE TO THE LEVEL OF AN INTERNAL AFFAIRS COMPLAINT, THEN THAT WOULD BE HANDLED BY A SUPERVISOR AND ADDRESSED APPROPRIATELY.

AND IF IT, IF IT MET THE CRITERIA TO GO INTO AN INTERNAL AFFAIRS INVESTIGATION, AT THAT POINT IN TIME, IT WOULD BE INITIATED.

AS I KNOW WHEN I WAS REVIEWING, WHEN I WAS PREPARING FOR THE HEARING AND I WAS REVIEWING THE STATUTE, IT TALKS ABOUT ANY COMPLAINTS OR CONCERNS ABOUT THE USE OF MILITARY EQUIPMENT, WHICH IS VERY BROAD.

I DON'T THINK IT NECESSARILY, UM, IS LIMITED TO FORMAL COMPLAINTS.

SO IN MY MIND, I'M THINKING IF THE SWAT VEHICLE'S SENT OUT ON A SERVICE CALL AND A BYSTANDER NEARBY WALKS UP TO A POLICE OFFICER AND SAYS, THE USE OF THIS SWAT VEHICLE RIGHT HERE, IT'S MAKING ME FEEL, FEEL VERY INTIMIDATED.

I'M VERY NERVOUS BY ITS PRESENCE.

FOR ME, I I WOULD VIEW WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THE STATUTE THAT THAT'S A CONCERN RAISED BY SOMEBODY ABOUT THE USE OF MILITARY EQUIPMENT.

UM, IT MIGHT NOT BE A FORMAL COMPLAINT, BUT I THINK IT BROADLY, ESPECIALLY LOOKING AT THE, THE ENTIRE STATUTE TALKS ABOUT IN COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, REALLY FOCUSING ON BALANCING THOSE INTERESTS.

AND WHEN IT SAYS REPORTING ON ANY CONCERNS RAISED ABOUT MILITARY USE, UH, THE USE OF MILITARY EQUIPMENT THAT I, I WOULD FIND THAT THAT WOULD FALL UNDER IT.