Sep 15, 2025 Planning Commission

ITEM ONE IS FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA FOR THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 15TH, 2025.

WE WILL NOW BE BEGIN CONSIDERATION OF ITEMS ON TONIGHT'S REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA.

[1. Approval of the Agenda for the Meeting on September 15, 2025]

THAT IS THIS EVENING'S MEETING.

IF THERE IS NO DISCUSSION FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS, DO I HAVE A MOTION? THERE WE GO.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY VICE CHAIR, UH, CASTLE, AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ARMENTA TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.

UH, WE WILL NOW VOTE ELECTRONICALLY.

MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

MOTION CARRIED WITH COMMISSIONERS PRESENT.

ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA IS FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF AUGUST 18TH, 2025.

ITEM ITEM TWO

[2. Approval of Minutes from the August 18, 2025]

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT PARTICULAR ITEM? ANY CORRECTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION MEMBERS? IF NOT, DO I HAVE A MOTION AND

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A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES? WE HAVE A MOTION BY VICE CHAIR CASTLE AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.

WE WILL NOW VOTE ELECTRONICALLY.

MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

MOTION CARRIED WITH COMMISSIONERS PRESENT.

TIME AND THE PLACE FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS TO CONSIDER.

THIS IS THE

[3. Consideration of a Final Environmental Impact Report to Assess Project Impacts and Approval of a Conditional Use Permit and Coastal Development Permit for a Proposed Fuel Transfer Facility within BNSF Railroad Right-of-Way and BNSF-Owned Property Located West of the 1800 Block of Cleveland Avenue and North of West 19th Street, North to Civic Center Drive. Case File No.: 2023-03 CUP, CDP, IS APNS: 559- 010-14, 559-040-46, 559-040-47, 559-040-48, 559-040-52, 559-076-02, 559-091-03, & 559-091-11]

ITEM NUMBER THREE, CONSIDERATION OF A FINAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT TO ASSESS PROJECT IMPACTS AND APPROVAL OF A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT FOR A PROPOSED FUEL TRANSFER FACILITY WITHIN BNSF RAILROAD RIGHT OF WAY, AND BNSF OWNED PROPERTY LOCATED WEST OF EIGHT OF THE 1800 BLOCK OF CLEVELAND AVENUE AND NORTH OF THE, OF, AND NORTH OF WEST 19TH STREET, NORTH OF THE CIVIC CENTER DRIVE.

I HEREBY OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE WE PROCEED ANY FURTHER, DO ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY DISCLOSURES RELATING TO THIS HEARING? THIS IS EACH PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S OPPORTUNITY TO DISCLOSE ANY CONFLICTS OF INTEREST, PROPERTY INSPECTIONS, EX PARTE CONTACTS WITH THE APPLICANT OR THE PUBLIC OR COMMUNICATIONS OR ANYTHING ELSE? YES.

I, I MEANT, I, I WENT OUT THERE TO LOOK AT THE AREA AND I DROVE AROUND AND I, I DROVE AROUND IT.

VERY FAMILIAR.

VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA RIGHT THROUGH THERE.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MENTO.

I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT, UM, I DROVE BY THE AREA AND I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA, AND THEN I ALSO DID RECEIVE A PHONE CALL FROM, UM, SOMEBODY FROM USG FUELS THAT I, THEY LEFT A VOICEMAIL FOR ME AND I DID NOT RETURN THAT CALL.

I, I'D LIKE TO DISCLOSE IT.

I HAVE BEEN, UH, AROUND THAT AREA TO INSPECT THE PROPERTY, AND I ALSO ATTENDED A COMMUNITY MEETING THAT THEY PREVIOUSLY HAD AT THE NATIONAL CITY LIBRARY.

THANK, DO YOU RECALL THE DATE OF THAT MEETING? NO, I DO NOT.

I HAVE TO LOOK IN MY NOTES.

SORRY TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT.

I, AND, UH, FULL DISCLOSURE, I TWO, UM, WENT TO THE SITE AND INSPECTED IT, DROVE AROUND AND WALKED IT.

UM, MADAM SECRETARY, HAVE ALL THE NOTICES AS REQUIRED BY LAW BEEN GIVEN, AND DO WE HAVE THE COMPLETE FILE OF EXHIBITS, CORRESPONDENCE AND OTHER DOCUMENTS? YES, CHAIR.

WILL STAFF PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND, UH, SUMMARIZE THE ITEM FOR US.

REES ALGAE, CROP RESIDUES, OR WOODY BIOMASS.

GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, MEMBERS OF, OF THE PUBLIC, MY NAME IS DAVID WELCH, UH, PLANNER WITH THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY.

UM, ITEM THREE IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

THIS IS REGARDING THE CONSIDERATION OF A CER CERTIFICATE, CERTIFICATION OF A FINAL IMPACT REPORT TO ASSESS PROJECT IMPACTS, UH, RELATED TO A PROPOSED FUEL TRANSFER FACILITY AS WELL AS APPROVAL.

CONSIDER A CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF A CUP AND OR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT FOR THE PROPOSED FACILITY.

UH, FILE NUMBER, UH, 20 23 0 1 C-U-P-C-D-P AND IS SO MOVING INTO THE STAFF PRESENTATION.

APOLOGIZE, IT'S A LITTLE BIT LONG.

UM, THIS IS THE SITE HIGHLIGHTED IN RED, UH, THE OVERHEAD, UM, THIS IS ON THE WEST SIDE OF NATIONAL CITY, UH, WEST OF THE FIVE, UM, IN OUR INDUSTRIAL AREA CLOSER TO THE PORT AND NAVY BASE.

UM, THE TRANSFER FACILITY WOULD BE TOWARDS THE SOUTH BY, UM, WEST 19TH.

AND THEN THE VERY TOP, UM, JUST HIGHLIGHTS, UH, UH, IMPROVED RAIL CROSSING AT CIVIC CENTER DRIVE.

SO THE SITE IS ABOUT SEVEN AND A HALF ACRES IN SIZE.

IT EXTENDS BETWEEN THE RAIL CROSSING AT CIVIC CENTER DRIVE ALL THE WAY DOWN TO WEST 19TH STREET.

UM, THIS INCLUDES BNSF RAILWAY, WHICH IS ALREADY EXISTING IN ACTIVE.

AND AN ADJACENT BNSF OWNED PROPERTY, UH, THAT IS GENERALLY LOCATED BETWEEN WEST 18TH AND 19TH STREETS.

UM, A PORTION OF THE SITE, UH, THAT INCLUDES WHERE NEW RAIL SPURS WOULD BE LOCATED, IS ALSO, UH, A-D-T-S-C CLEANUP SITE FOR THE BUSINESS SPECIFIC STEEL INC.

UM, AND THAT CLEANUP OF THAT PROPERTY IS SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETED AT THIS TIME.

UM, THE ENTIRE OVERALL SITE, UH, IS FORMER INDUSTRIAL AND THE LAND IS MOSTLY DISTURBED.

UM, AND THEN AS, AS I MENTIONED, THE CROSSING IS CIVIC CENTER DRIVE IS INTENDED TO BE IMPROVED WITH THE SECOND TRACK CROSSING RIGHT THERE.

UM, THE SURROUNDING AREA, IT'S MOSTLY INDUSTRIAL MANUFACTURING.

UM, THERE ARE SOME TOURISTS SUPPORTING COMMERCIAL USES TO THE

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SOUTH ABOUT A HALF MILE.

UH, THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE, UH, THERE'S A HOTEL IN THE MARINA AND THOSE ACTIVITIES.

UM, OF NOTE, WE ALSO HAVE AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, MCKINLEY APARTMENTS ABOUT 380 FEET TO THE EAST.

UH, THERE ARE ARE ALSO SOME EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON THIS PART OF THE CITY, UM, WITH THE NEAREST ONES BEING APPROXIMATELY 900 FEET TO THE SOUTH.

UM, AGAIN, PORT AND NAVY ARE HEAVILY ACTIVE IN THIS AREA.

THE NEAREST SCHOOL IS ACROSS I FIVE TO THE EAST, ABOUT A HALF MILE AWAY.

AND THEN JUST TO NOTE, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FREIGHT RAIL IN SAN DIEGO, UM, IT COMES IN AND OUT OF THE REGION THROUGH ORANGE COUNTY.

SO IT'S NORTH SOUTH, SO ANY TRAINS IN THIS AREA BE COMING THROUGH DOWNTOWN AND GOING NORTH THAT WAY.

HERE'S SOME PHOTOS OF THE SITE.

UH, THIS IS JANUARY, 2025.

UM, THE ONE ON THE LEFT IS KIND OF LOOKING AT WHERE THE FIELD TRANS TRANSFER FACILITY WOULD BE INSTALLED, LOOKING FROM WEST 19TH STREET.

AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS KIND OF LOOKING FURTHER DOWN WHERE THE TRACKS WOULD BE INSTALLED.

UM, THESE ARE A LITTLE OLDER, BUT THIS IS THE REVERSE.

UM, LOOKING AT, OR I'M SORRY, NOT REVERSE WEST 18TH STREET.

UM, AND THE ONE ON THE RIGHT IS ALL THE WAY DOWN A CIVIC CENTER DRIVE LOOKING AT THE TRACKS.

SO THE APPLICANT, WHICH IS SAN DIEGO CLEAN FUEL FACILITY, UH, PROPOSES TO CONSTRUCT A ING FACILITY FOR RENEWABLE FUELS.

FUELS WOULD BE TRANSFERRED FROM RAIL CARS TO TRUCKS FOR DELIVERY TO SERVICE STATIONS WITHIN THE SAN DIEGO MARKET.

THE PROPOSAL WOULD INCLUDE A SMALL OFFICE BUILDING, WHICH WOULD BE CONSTRUCTED ON SITE, UM, ADDITIONAL RAIL SPURS AND EXPANDED RAIL CROSSINGS WILL ACCOMMODATE THE ADDED RAIL ACTIVITY IN THE AREA.

OPERATIONS WOULD BE 24 HOURS A DAY.

UM, APPLICANT TENDS TO PRIMARILY HAVE TRUCKS IN OFF PEAK HOURS TO PREVENT, UH, DELAYS IN, IN FUEL, UH, DELIVERY THROUGHOUT THE REGION.

UM, AND THEN AS FAR AS PROPOSED SAFETY MEASURES, WE ALSO HAVE A FUEL CONTAINMENT BASIN, BASIN AND FIREFIGHTING PLATFORM, UH, THAT ARE PROPOSED.

THE CONTAINMENT BASIN WOULD BE ENOUGH TO HOLD AT LEAST AN ENTIRE RAIL CARS WORTH OF SPILLED FUEL SHOULD THAT EVER HAPPEN.

UM, THE APPLICANT HAS ALSO STATED THE FOLLOWING OBJECTIVES.

THESE ARE THINGS THEY'RE SAYING THEY WANNA DO WITH THE PROJECT.

UM, CONTRIBUTE TO THE STATE'S TRANSITION TO CARBON NEUTRALITY.

UM, EXPAND AVAILABILITY OF RENEWABLE FUELS IN THE REGION, UH, LOWERING EMISSIONS IN THE EXISTING SUPPLY CHAIN FOR THE PRODUCT BY UTILIZING RAIL, UM, INCREASING SPEED OF DELIVERY TO MARKET.

THIS WOULD ADD JOBS TO NATIONAL CITIES, SO GENERATING EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES, UM, CHOOSING A PROPERTY THAT'S UNDERUTILIZED TO DEVELOP AND MINIMIZING CONFLICT WITH EXISTING USES, UM, AND THEN PROVIDING AN APPROPRIATELY SIZED FACILITY THAT BALANCES THEIR BUSINESS NEEDS, BUT ALSO REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF TRUCK TRIPS COMING IN AND OUTTA THE CITY.

UM, BEING IN A LOCATION THAT HAS DIRECT ACCESS TO THE FREEWAY, UM, HAVE THE NECESSARY INFRASTRUCTURE, AND THEN THE CAPACITY TO RESPOND TO HAZARDS QUICKLY AND APPROPRIATELY.

SO AS FAR AS PHYSICAL IMPROVEMENTS ON SITE, AGAIN, WE HAVE CONSTRUCTION OF RAILWAY TRACKS, TURNOUTS, CROSSOVERS THAT WILL MOVE RAIL CARS AROUND IN THE PROJECT AREA.

UM, CONCRETE SLAB PUMP PADS AT EACH SPOT, SO YOU KNOW, EQUIPMENT NECESSARY FOR THE TRANSLOADING PROCESS.

UM, AND THEN CONCRETE DRAINS TO SLOPE IN CASE THERE'S ANY SPILLS OR ANYTHING.

UM, AND THEN THE PUMPS AND PIPING THAT CAN HELP MOVE THAT FUEL AROUND FROM RAIL CARS TO TRUCK LOADING.

UM, THERE'S ALSO ADDITIVES THAT GO IN WITH THE FUEL, SO ROOM FOR THAT.

AND THEN BASICALLY IT'S, IT'S ALMOST LIKE A PARKING LOT.

IT'S A PAVED FACILITY.

THIS ALLOWS A PROPER MOVEMENT OF ANY LARGE TRUCKS COMING IN ON THE SITE AND THEN LIGHTING AS NEEDED TO MAKE SURE IT'S SAFE AT NIGHT AS WELL.

SO LET'S TALK ABOUT ALTERNATIVE FUELS.

UM, SO THIS PROJECT IS BASICALLY A RESPONSE TO, UM, THINGS HAPPENING AT THE STATE WITH AB 32, WHICH WAS THE GLOBAL GLOBAL WARMING SOLUTIONS ACT.

UM, THIS IS THE STATE'S, UH, DESIRE TO REDUCE GHG GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS THROUGHOUT THE STATE.

UM, AB 32 REALLY CALLS FOR ZERO EMISSIONS VEHICLES IN THE LONG TERM, UH, BUT CALIFORNIA AIR RESOURCES BOARD CARB, UM, HAS BEEN LOOKING AT INTERIM MEASURES, WHICH INCLUDES THE LOW CARBON FUEL STANDARD, UH, TO HELP US REDUCE GHG IN THE INTERIM WHILE WE TRANSITION TO ZERO EMISSIONS.

UM, SO THIS WOULD BE FUEL THAT WOULD HELP MEET THAT LOW CARBON FUEL STANDARD.

SO THE PROJECT WOULD DELIVER ALTERNATIVE BIOFUELS TO MARKET.

THIS INCLUDES RENEWABLE DIESEL BIODIESEL, SUSTAINABLE AVIATION FUEL.

UM, PRODUCTS CAN COME FROM, UH, VEGETABLE OILS, ANIMAL FADS,

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UM, SO A LOT OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS THERE.

UM, THESE ARE ALSO DROP IN BIO BIOFUELS, WHICH MEANS THEY CAN BE USED WITHOUT MODIFICATIONS TO EXISTING DIESEL ENGINES.

SO IF SOMEONE HAS A DIESEL TRUCK THEY'RE CURRENTLY USING, THEY CAN PICK THIS UP AT THE NEAREST STEP, THE GAS STATION THAT CARRIES IT, AND THEY CAN JUST USE IT ON THEIR TRUCK.

UM, AND THE REDUCTION IN EMISSIONS CAN BE UP TO 80%, AND IT'S GONNA BE VERY BYPRODUCT.

I'M SURE THE APPLICANT COULD SPEAK MORE TO THAT, BUT IT CAN CAUSE SOME SIGNIFICANT REDUCTIONS DEPENDING ON EXACTLY WHICH FUEL TYPE IS BEING USED.

SO WE HAVE SOME ENVIRONMENTAL CONSIDERATIONS WITH THIS PROJECT.

UM, SO A REDUCTION IN EMISSIONS AT THE REGION LEVEL DOESN'T NECESSARILY TRANSLATE TO THE LOCAL LEVEL.

SO IF WE'RE PROVIDING A LOT OF CLEANER FUELS TO SAN DIEGO, THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THEY'RE BEING USED HERE IN NATIONAL CITY.

UM, AND THE CITY HAS A HISTORY OF TRYING TO IMPROVE HEALTH OUTCOMES RELATED TO AIR POLLUTION.

SO WE HAD THE ADOPTION OF THE WEST SIDE SPECIFIC PLAN.

THIS PLAN REALLY INTENDS TO PRESERVE THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE WEST SIDE.

WE HAD THE AMORTIZATION PROGRAM.

THIS IS A PROGRAM INTENDED TO REMOVE POLLUTING BUSINESSES FROM THE WEST SIDE.

THE CITY WAS AN EARLY ADOPTER OF A HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE ELEMENT WITHIN OUR GENERAL PLAN.

SO THAT HAPPENED BEFORE THE STATE MADE THAT A REQUIREMENT FOR EVERY CITY.

UM, AND THEN MORE RECENTLY, WE WERE DESIGNATED AS PART OF THE PORTSIDE COMMUNITY, UH, UNDER AB SIX 17 AND ADOPTED A COMMUNITY EMISSIONS REDUCTION PLAN.

SO THAT IS INTENDED TO REDUCE EMISSIONS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

UM, WE ALSO RECENTLY ADOPTED AN UPDATE TO OUR CLIMATE ACTION PLAN.

UM, SO THERE'S A LONG HISTORY THERE.

UM, SO THIS PROJECT DOES PROPOSE TO UTILIZE DIESEL POWERED TRUCK TRIPS FOR FACILITY OPERATION.

AS I MENTIONED, MULTIPLE TIMES ZERO EMISSION VEHICLES ARE NOT QUITE THERE YET, SO THERE'S SOME GAPS THAT WE HAD TO WORK WITH.

UM, BUT BECAUSE OF ALL THESE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSIDERATIONS, UH, ULTIMATELY AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT WAS REQUESTED FOR THIS PROJECT.

SO LET'S LOOK A LITTLE BIT AT THE PLANS THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT.

UM, ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE IS CIVIC CENTER.

THAT'S WHERE THERE WOULD BE A SECOND RAIL LINE CROSSING.

UM, ON THE RIGHT SIDE, UH, BETWEEN 18TH AND 19TH, THAT'S WHERE THE TRANSFER FACILITY WOULD BE LOCATED.

AND THEN WHAT I HAVE HIGHLIGHTED IN RED IS THE NEW RAIL LINES, WHICH WOULD FACILITATE RAIL CAR MOVEMENTS WITHIN THE SITE.

AND THEN JUST A CLOSER IN, AGAIN, RAIL SPURS ON THE WEST SIDE ON THE, ON THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN, UH, THE UNLOADING AREA FOR RAIL IN GREEN, UM, AND THE TRUCK LOADING, UM, AREA IN BLUE, WHICH WOULD BE CONNECTED BY PUMPS AND PIPES.

UM, AND THEN ALL TRUCKS WOULD BE COMING IN OFF OF WEST 18TH AND EXITING ON WEST 19TH.

UM, AND THEN, LIKE I SAID, THERE'S A SMALL OFFICE BUILDING ASSOCIATED WITH THE USE, AND HERE'S THAT OFFICE BUILDING REAL PLAIN.

UM, AND THEN LANDSCAPING IS INTENDED TO BE LOCATED ON THE, UM, EDGES OF THE SITE, WHICH WOULD IN, UH, BE ADJACENT TO THE RIGHT OF WAYS.

SO THE PROPOSED PROJECT REQUESTS APPROVAL OF A FUEL TRANSFER FACILITY.

UM, THIS IS PERMITTED IN THE MEDIUM MANUFACTURING ZONE WITH THE APPROVAL OF A COP, BUT IT'S ALSO IN THE COASTAL ZONE.

SO ANY DISCRETIONARY PROJECT IN THAT ZONE ALSO REQUIRES A COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT.

UM, IT ALSO SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THE APPROVAL OF A CDP IS ALSO APPEALABLE TO THE CALIFORNIA COASTAL COMMISSION.

UM, AREAS WITHIN OUR COASTAL ZONE ARE SUBJECT TO DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS LISTED IN THE LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM, WHICH IS A DOCUMENT, UH, THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN OF THE LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM.

THIS IMPLEMENTATION PLAN STILL REFERENCES SECTIONS IN OUR PREVIOUS LAND USE CODE.

SO SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS APPLICABLE TO THE SITE ARE FROM OUR OLD LAND USE CODE FROM BACK IN 2011.

UM, SO THE PROJECT WAS ANALYZED FOR IMPACTS AS REQUIRED BY THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT CQA IN AN EIR ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT.

THE CERTIFICATION OF THE EIR FOR THIS PROJECT WILL BE CONSIDERED SEPARATELY.

SO WE HAVE TWO THINGS TO CONSIDER, UM, WITH THE COMMISSION CERTIFICATION OF THE EIR AS WELL AS PROJECT APPROVAL FOR THE CUP AND CDP, FOR THE C PS, UM, THERE ARE FOUR FINDINGS THAT HAVE TO BE MADE.

THE SITE OF THE PROPOSED USE IS ADEQUATE IN SIZE AND SHAPE.

THE SITE HAS SUFFICIENT ACCESS TO STREETS AND HIGHWAYS AND ADEQUATE, THAT ARE ADEQUATE IN WIDTH AND PAVEMENT TYPE TO CARRY THE QUANTITY AND QUALITY OF TRAFFIC GENERATED BY THE PROPOSED USE.

PROPOSED USE WILL NOT HAVE AN ADVERSE EFFECT UPON ADJACENT OR ABUTTING PROPERTIES, AND THE PROPOSED USE IS DEEMED ESSENTIAL AND DESIRABLE TO THE PUBLIC CONVENIENCE OR WELFARE.

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FOR THE COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT, THERE ARE ONLY TWO, UH, GRANTING OF THE CDP WILL BE CONSISTENT WITH ALL OF THEIR PLANS AND ORDINANCES OF THE CITY, OF NATIONAL CITY.

UH, AND THEN IT'LL BE CONSISTENT WITH AND IMPLEMENTS A CERTIFIED LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM.

SO IN THE ANALYSIS STAFF REVIEWED POLICIES, THE GENERAL PLAN, THE LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM, THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN UPDATE THAT PERTAINED TO THIS PROJECT, PERTAINED TO THIS PROJECT.

UH, THE PROJECT WAS ALSO REVIEWED FOR COMPLIANCE WITH REGULATIONS IN THE LAND USE CODE, WHICH WOULD BE THE PREVIOUS VERSION.

UM, AND THEN STAFF ALSO LOOKED AT THE COMMUNITY EMISSIONS REDUCTION PLAN.

THAT WAS PART OF THE AB SIX 17 PORT SIDE COMMUNITIES PLANNING PROCESS.

SO STARTING WITH OUR GENERAL PLAN, I'M GONNA TAKE A LOOK AT ALL THE ELEMENTS, UM, KIND OF INDEPENDENTLY BECAUSE THIS PROJECT, WE WILL TOUCH ON A LOT OF THINGS.

UM, SOME OF THESE ARE MORE REGULATORY, YOU KNOW, DOES THE PROJECT BEAT THE STANDARD? UM, SOME OF THESE I PICKED OUT BECAUSE THEY ARE DESIRABLE.

SO THIS IS WHAT THE CITY'S TRYING TO DO, AND I DID THAT FOR A REASON.

SO, UM, WE HAVE SOME POLICIES LISTED HERE FOR RELATED TO LAND USE, AND I'LL KIND OF JUST GO THROUGH THEM AND CONTINUE TO DO THAT IN THE OTHER ELEMENTS OF THE GENERAL PLAN.

UM, SO STARTING WITH, UH, 1.3 URBAN GREENING EFFORTS.

SO THE GENERAL PLAN ENCOURAGES THAT WE MAKE EFFORTS TO MAKE OUR CITY MORE GREEN.

UM, THAT'S MORE OF A DESIRE.

UM, SAME THING WITH, UH, PEDESTRIAN SCALE, SCALE DESIGN, MAINTENANCE OF SIDEWALKS, THE BICYCLE ROCKS, BICYCLE ROUTES, UM, BUT GETTING MORE INTO THE MEAT AND POTATOES ON THE REGULATORY SIDE.

UM, THE GENERAL, THE LAND USE SETTLEMENT REQUIRES CONSISTENCY WITH THE ZONING CODE AND APPLICABLE SPECIFIC PLANS.

SO THERE'S NO SPECIFIC PLAN HERE, BUT, UM, PLANNING STAFF DID ANALYZE THIS PROJECT FOR CONSISTENCY WITH THE CODES IN THE LAND USE CODE, WHICH IS ADDRESSED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

UH, STAFF IS CONSIDERING THESE OTHER ITEMS BECAUSE THERE IS A PROPOSED ECONOMIC BENEFIT THAT COULD POTENTIALLY IMPLEMENT SOME OF THESE OTHER IDEAS.

SO KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WE GO THROUGH THIS.

UM, AND THEN ALSO I'M ALSO HIGHLIGHTING PROJECT CONCERNS THAT MAY BE DISCUSSED IN THE ER AS I GO THROUGH THIS.

UM, ANOTHER THING THAT OCCURS HERE IS, UH, RIGHT OF WAY IMPROVEMENTS ARE INCLUDED IN, UM, UH, POLICY 4.2, 4.4.

THOSE ARE MAINTAINED BY THAT REQUIREMENT.

MOVING INTO TRANSPORTATION, UH, POLICY T 3.6 CALLS FOR ENHANCED TRANSIT SERVICE.

AGAIN, A WISHLIST ITEM.

UM, AND THEN THERE'S TALK ABOUT RAIL MOVEMENTS.

IN OUR GENERAL PLAN, IT'S INFRASTRUCTURE ENHANCE ENHANCEMENTS TO FACILITATE TIMELY MOVEMENT OF GOODS, PARTICULARLY INTERMODAL TRANSFERS, UH, MOVEMENT OF GOODS BY RAIL, AND THEN ABATING NOISE AND POLLUTION.

UM, SO THIS PROJECT DOES INVOLVE MORE EFFICIENT RAIL MOVEMENTS.

UM, SO THAT FALLS IN LINE WITH THE GENERAL PLAN REQUIREMENT, UM, OR POLICY.

AND THEN TRUCK ROUTES ARE DESIGNED TO AVOID THE NUISANCES ASSOCIATED WITH TRUCK TRAFFIC, WHICH IS RELATED TO POLICY 9.4 IN OUR SAFETY ELEMENT.

UH, THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS.

UH, THE ABILITY TO EFFECTIVELY RESPOND TO HAZARDOUS MATERIALS EMERGENCIES, UM, AS WELL AS THE CLEANUP AND REUSE OF TAMA CONTAMINATED SITES.

UM, THIS PROJECT DOES INCLUDE SPECIALIZED FIREFIGHTING PLATFORM AND ADDITIONAL FIRE HYDRANTS.

SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT STRICTER FIRE, UH, REQUIREMENTS FOR THIS PROJECT.

UM, AND THEN IT IS A VACANT, UNDERUTILIZED, AND PREVIOUSLY CONTAMINATED SITE, WHICH IS IN LINE WITH WHAT THE GENERAL PLAN IS ASKING FOR.

MOVING ON TO NOISE AND NUISANCE ELEMENTS.

UM, SO THERE'S MULTIPLE POLICIES THAT TALK ABOUT NOISES AND NUISANCES, ESPECIALLY VIBRATIONS, UM, AND NOISES, UH, AS WELL AS OFFENSIVE ODORS AND OTHER NOXIOUS SUBSTANCES.

UM, IN THIS CASE, UH, THIS WAS EVALUATED IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT.

THERE WAS A NOISE ANALYSIS THAT WAS INCLUDED, UH, WHICH DETERMINED THAT THE CITY'S NOISE ORDINANCE WOULD BE ADHERED TO, WHICH IS TITLE 12 OF THE CITY CODE.

UM, THERE ARE ALSO CONDITIONS, CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL RELATED TO, UH, THE APPLICANT'S ADHERENCE TO DESIGNATED TRUCK ROUTES IN THE CITY, AS WELL AS, UM, STAFF JUST ASKED FOR A SIX FOOT HIGH SOLID FENCER WALL TO REDUCE ANY POTENTIAL IMPACTS TO DIRECTLY ADJACENT NEARBY PROPERTIES.

UM, AND THEN AS WELL AS ADHERING TO ANY POLICIES THE AIR POLLUTION CONTROL DISTRICT HAS RELATED TO NUISANCE ODORS.

MOVING ON INTO OUR OPEN SPACE AND AGRICULTURE ELEMENT POLICIES.

UM, THERE'S REALLY GENERAL DISCUSSIONS IN THIS SECTION OF GENERAL, GENERAL PLAN ABOUT OPEN SPACES, HABITAT, BIOLOGICAL RESOURCES.

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UM, THESE ARE TALKED ABOUT IN THE EIR AND THERE ARE SOME MITIGATION MEASURES SPECIFIC TO OPEN SPACES, HABITAT NESTING, BIRDS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, AND THEN OPEN SPACE 1.3 ENCOURAGES SHADE TREES WITH SUBSTANTIAL CANOPIES.

UM, THAT'S INCLUDED AS A RECOMMENDED CONDITION FROM STAFF ENHANCED, UH, TREE CANOPY FOR THIS PROJECT.

UM, AND THEN THE LAST POLICIES I HIGHLIGHTED PERTAIN TO PRESERVING HISTORIC AND CULTURAL RESOURCES.

THAT'S ANOTHER MITIGATION MEASURE FROM THE, UM, ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT.

BASICALLY MONITORING ON SITE IF THERE'S ANY ARCHEOLOGICAL RESOURCES DURING CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES.

UM, LAST POINT I WANNA MAKE SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OPEN SPACE HERE.

UH, THE INITIAL ANALYSIS WITH THE DRAFT EIR DISCUSSED SOMETHING CALLED FEATURE THREE, UM, AS A POSSIBLE OR POTENTIAL WETLAND, WHICH HAD DRIED ALGAL MATS.

UM, WE DID HAVE A LOT OF COMMENTS ABOUT A POTENTIAL WETLAND DURING THE EIR PROCESS, UM, BUT THE ER DID HAVE LANGUAGE WHICH BASICALLY TALKED ABOUT THIS FEATURE AS A PUDDLE, YOU KNOW, INTERMITTENT WATER GATHERING.

SO I'LL TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT LATER.

UM, MOVING ON TO CONSERVATION AND SUSTAINABILITY ELEMENT IN THE GENERAL PLAN.

UM, THE POLICY PERTAINING TO REDU REDUCTION OF THE URBAN HEAT ISLAND EFFECT.

AGAIN, STAFF ASKED FOR MORE TREES, UM, ENCOURAGING THE DEVELOPMENT OF INDUSTRIES THAT BENEFIT THE ENVIRONMENT.

UM, THIS KIND OF FOLLOWS THAT IN THAT IT'S PROVIDING SUSTAINABLE FUELS.

UM, AND THEN ANOTHER POLICY PERTAINING TO STORMWATER BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES.

THIS IS NEW DEVELOPMENT, UM, UH, EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE STORED WATER TREATMENT WILL BE REQUIRED BY THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT FOR ANY NEW NEW DEVELOPMENT PROJECT.

MOVING ON TO, UM, THE HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE ELEMENT, WHICH I ALLUDED TO EARLIER.

UM, SO WE HAVE SOME SEVERAL POLICIES THAT MIGHT RELATE TO THIS PROJECT.

THE FIRST ONE TALKS ABOUT, OR STATES THAT THE CITY SHALL CONSIDER ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE ISSUES AS THEY'RE RELATED TO POTENTIAL HEALTH IMPACTS ASSOCIATED WITH LAND USE DECISIONS.

UM, IT ALSO TALKS ABOUT REDUCING ADVERSE HEALTH EFFECTS OF HAZARDOUS MATERIALS AND INDUSTRIAL ACTIVITIES AND OTHER UNDESIRABLE LAND USE USES ON RESIDENTIAL RESIDENTS, REGARDLESS OF AGE, CULTURE, ETHNICITY, GENDER, RACE, SOCIOECONOMIC STATUS, OR GEOGRAPHIC LOCATION.

SECOND POLICY, UH, 1.5 SAYS, PROMOTE THE INCLUSION OF POTENTIALLY AFFECTED COMMUNITY RESIDENTS IN THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS.

POLICY 2.5 SAYS, ENCOURAGE THE PROTECTION OF EXISTING SENSITIVE LAND USES THROUGH FEASIBLE MEASURES SUCH AS SEPARATION SETBACKS, LANDSCAPING BARRIERS, VENTILATION SYSTEMS, AIR FILTERS, AND OR OTHER EFFECTIVE MEASURES TO MINIMIZE POTENTIAL IMPACTS FROM AIR POLLUTION.

AND THEN FINALLY, 2.6, CONSIDER AIR QUALITY IMPACTS, INCLUDING CUMULATIVE IMPACTS FROM EXISTING AND NEW DEVELOPMENT.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT, UM, THINGS PERTAINING TO THIS PROJECT IN OUR HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE ELEMENT.

UM, SO AS DISCUSSED EARLIER, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING ENHANCED TREE CANOPY.

YOU KNOW, THAT ANY NEW TREES HELP WITH, UH, CARBON OR OTHER AIR POLLUTANTS.

UM, THE PROJECT DOES, UH, PROPOSE TO TRANSFER CLEANER FUEL OPTIONS, WHICH WILL BENEFIT LOCAL AIR QUALITY TO SOME EXTENT.

UM, AGAIN, ONCE, ONCE AGAIN, STORM WATER IS TREATED BY THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT ON NEW DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS.

SO, UM, GOING MORE SPECIFICALLY INTO THOSE POLICIES I JUST MENTIONED.

SO THE HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE, WHILE IT WAS AHEAD OF IT TIME, IT IS WRITTEN IN A WAY THAT WERE SUGGESTIVE, UM, THE LANGUAGE IN THAT POLICY, IN THOSE POLICIES, READ, CONSIDER, ENCOURAGE, PROMOTE, UM, SO IMPLEMENTATION IS NOT ALWAYS CLEAR.

UM, AND THERE MAY BE OTHER DOCUMENTS THAT ARE BETTER, UH, SERVED FOR IMPLEMENTING, UM, POLICIES RELATED TO HEALTH AND, AND THE ENVIRONMENT.

SO THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT THE PRESENCE OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE COMMUNITY HERE IN NATIONAL CITY.

UH, THIS WAS DISCUSSED IN THE HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE ABOUT LONGSTANDING HEALTH ISSUES IN THE COMMUNITY.

MORE RECENTLY IN THE COMMUNITY EMISSIONS REDUCTION PLAN AND IN THE EIR, UM, IF YOU GO TO STATE WEBSITES SUCH AS CALEN VIRUS SCREEN, UM, YOU'LL JUST SEE HOW IMPACTED COMMUNITIES IN, IN NATIONAL CITY R SPECIFICALLY ON THE WEST SIDE.

UM, THE R DID INCLUDE ASSESSMENTS ON HEALTH CONCERNS RELATED TO THIS PROPOSED INDUSTRIAL USE.

AND THE INCREASED TRUCK TRAFFIC, CANCER RISK, CHRONIC HEALTH HAZARDS AND ACUTE HEALTH HAZARDS WERE ANALYZED AND FOUND TO BE LESS THAN SIGNIFICANT.

HOWEVER, THE POLICY DOES SEEK TO REDUCE SUCH HAZARDS.

SO, UM, ANY INCREASE IS SOMETHING TO BE CONSIDERED.

MOVING ON TO THAT SECOND

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POLICY 1.5, UH, THIS IS ABOUT INCLUSION OF THE COMMUNITY AND THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS.

UM, I'D JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT TONIGHT IS THE FIRST FORMAL PUBLIC HEARING IN THE PROCESS, UH, FOR THE APPROVAL OF THIS PROJECT.

UM, AND THEN THERE COULD BE POTENTIALLY OTHER PUBLIC HEARINGS.

THE DECISION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, IF IT'S MADE TONIGHT, WOULD BE FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL.

CITY COUNCIL HAS THE ABILITY TO ALSO REQUEST A PUBLIC HEARING.

UM, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THE PROJECT IS ALSO APPEALABLE AFTER FINAL ACTION IS TAKEN.

UM, AND THEN ON ANY PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE PLANNING COMMISSION, WE HAVE TO SEND OUT NOTICING IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE BROWN ACT.

SO POSTING IN THE NEWSPAPER, SENDING NOTICES TO NEARBY PROPERTY OWNERS AND OCCUPANTS.

UM, BUT I DO WANNA HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE PREVIOUS WORK, WHICH WASN'T NECESSARILY DONE BY PLANNING STAFF, BUT THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF, UM, PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT RELATED TO THIS PROJECT.

UH, SO FIRST OF ALL, THE PROJECT WAS INITIALLY PROPOSED WITH THE DRAFT MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION, WHICH IS BASICALLY A LOWER LEVEL ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW.

UH, THIS WAS POSTED FOR PUBLIC REVIEW ON JUNE 2ND, 2023.

WE RECEIVED A LOT OF PUBLICS, UM, WHICH ULTIMATELY LED TO THE REQUEST TO HAVE AN EIR.

UM, SO WE HAD OUR FIRST REAL ENGAGEMENT WITH THE PUBLIC AT THAT POINT.

UM, IN RESPONSE TO THE, THE AMOUNT OF INTEREST THAT THIS PROJECT STARTED TO DRAW, UM, THE DISTRICT ONE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER, THIS AREA IS INCLUDED IN HER DISTRICT, HAD A FEW CITY COUNCIL TOWN HALLS IN WHICH STAFF WAS ASKED TO TALK ABOUT THIS PROJECT.

UM, THE, THE TWO THAT I AM AWARE OF HAPPENED IN SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER OF 2023, AND THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT SHOWED UP TO THOSE MEETINGS WITH CONCERNS ABOUT THIS PROJECT.

UM, THE NEXT REAL MAJOR PUBLIC TOUCHPOINT WAS WHAT WE CALL A SCOPING MEETING FOR THE DRAFT EIR.

SO WHEN AN EIR IS PREPARED, WE GO TO THE PUBLIC AND WE ASK, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE CONCERNS THAT SHOULD BE LOOKED AT? THIS WAS HELD ON MAY 23RD, 2024, THE COMMUNITY ROOM IN THE LIBRARY.

UM, AND THIS WAS FOCUSED SOLELY IN THE PREPARATION OF THE EIR, BUT THERE WERE A LOT OF PUBLIC MEMBERS THERE.

A LOT OF COMMENTS WERE RECEIVED, UM, AND SUBMITTED REGARDING THE ENVIRONMENTAL REPORT THAT WOULD BE PREPARED.

UM, ANOTHER OPEN HOUSE WAS HELD WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBER IN AUGUST OF 2024, I BELIEVE.

THIS WAS, UM, ASKED BY THE APPLICANT TO OCCUR.

SO THEY WANTED TO HAVE ADDITIONAL TOUCH POINTS WITH THE PUBLIC.

AND THEN STAFF, YOU KNOW, IS ALWAYS RESPONSIVE TO EMAIL COMMUNICATIONS ABOUT THE PROJECT.

IT'S BEEN ONGOING SINCE 2023.

UM, PLANNING DIVISION ALSO, UH, HAS STARTED TO MAINTAIN A CURRENT PROJECT'S WEB WEBPAGE ON THE PLANNING DIVISION WEBPAGE.

SO, UH, WE'VE KEPT AN ONLINE PRESENCE FOR THIS PROJECT THROUGHOUT THE TIME PERIOD.

UM, AND WE HOPE TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT WITH OTHER PROJECTS MOVING FORWARD.

UM, AND THEN LASTLY, WE DID HAVE A NOTICE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS PROJECT ON JUNE 2ND.

HOWEVER, THAT PUBLIC HEARING WAS ULTIMATELY PULLED DUE TO A CONCERNING LETTER FROM THE CALIFORNIA COASTAL COMMISSION RECEIVED RIGHT BEFORE THAT MEETING.

UM, THE APPLICANT ALSO HAD SOME ADDITIONAL MEETINGS RELATED TO THIS PROJECT, WHICH IS IN THEIR PREREQ PRE-READ PACKET THAT THEY SUBMITTED.

THOSE ARE MORE ONE-ON-ONE WITH ELECTED OFFICIALS, UM, KIND OF BEYOND WHAT STAFF WOULD LOOK AT, UM, MOVING BACK INTO THE POLICIES.

UM, 2.5, ENCOURAGE THE PROTECTION OF SENSITIVE LAND USES THROUGH FEASIBLE MEASURES.

UM, IN THIS CASE, ON THE PLANNING SIDE, STAFF REALLY ONLY HAD CONDITIONS, CONDITIONS RELATED TO ENHANCED LANDSCAPING AND SCREENING.

UM, BUT THE ECONOMIC BENEFIT HAD BEEN ALLUDING TO, UH, COULD POTENTIALLY BE USED FOR OTHER SOURCES OF PROTECTION.

UM, WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT LATER.

UM, AND THE LAST POLICY FROM THE HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE ELEMENT, SIMILAR TO 1.2 ABOUT CONSIDERING AIR QUALITY IMPACTS.

UM, AGAIN, WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT AND HOW THAT MIGHT RELATE TO THIS PARTICULAR POLICY.

MOVING ON, UM, LOOKING AT OUR LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM AND COASTAL ACT, UH, A LOT OF THINGS TO LOOK AT ON THIS PROJECT.

UM, BECAUSE IT'S IN THE COASTAL ZONE, THE APPROVAL OF A COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PER PERMIT IS REQUIRED.

UM, LET'S GO STRAIGHT INTO THE LETTER THAT WAS RECEIVED ON JUNE 2ND FROM THE CALIFORNIA COASTAL COMMISSION.

UM, THESE WERE THE, THEIR CONCERNS.

SO FIRST OF ALL, JURISDICTION, UH, COASTAL COMMISSION WANTED IT TO BE CLEAR THAT THIS WAS AN APPEALABLE ACTION BASED ON THE PRESENCE OF A WETLAND, AND THAT PUBLIC NOTICING SHOULD SAY AS SUCH.

UM, WELL, WE ARE AGREEING WITH THAT, THAT IT'S APPEALABLE.

UM, BUT WE'RE ACTUALLY USING THE APPEAL ABILITY BASED ON THE FACT THAT THE PROJECT IS A MAJOR ENERGY FACILITY, UM,

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SHOULD AN APPEAL TAKE PLACE OR APPEALS CAN ONLY TAKE PLACE WITHIN THE 10 WORKING DAYS AFTER NOTICE OF FINAL ACTION.

UM, SO THAT WON'T OCCUR UNTIL CITY COUNCIL.

THE CITY HAS TO SEND AN OFFICIAL NOTICE TO THE COASTAL COMMISSION ABOUT FINAL ACTION TAKING PLACE, AND THAT WOULD BE POSTED ON THEIR WEBSITE.

UM, SO THEY ALSO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT AN ALLOWABLE USE IN A WETLAND.

UM, SO IT'S BEEN FROM JUNE TO SEPTEMBER NOW.

SO PART OF THE REASON FOR THE LONG WAIT HAS BEEN THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT THAT WETLAND QUESTION.

UM, AND ULTIMATELY A WETLAND DELINEATION WAS COMPLETED IN JULY AND DETERMINED THAT THERE IS NOT A WETLAND AND SITE.

SO SOME OF THE INITIAL, UH, FINDINGS THAT WERE CONCERNING TO THE COASTAL COMMISSION WERE FOUND NOT TO BE PRESENT, AND THEREFORE THEY CONCURRED WITH THAT ANALYSIS.

UM, THEY ALSO THOUGHT OUR ANALYSIS ON ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE WAS NOT THOROUGH.

UM, SO AGAIN, I TALKED ABOUT THE MEETINGS THAT WERE HELD.

UM, SO WE DISCUSSED A LITTLE BIT MORE IN THE STAFF REPORT ABOUT, UM, ANALYZING THAT PERSPECTIVE.

UM, COASTAL COMMISSION ALSO HAS AN ADOPTED ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE POLICY, UM, WHICH WOULD COINCIDE WITH THE CITY'S GENERAL PLAN.

UM, THEY ALSO WANTED US TO LOOK MORE INTO COASTAL HAZARDS, UM, STAFF CONCURS THAT THE SEA LEVEL RISE ANALYSIS THAT WAS DONE IN THE EI OR WAS A LITTLE BIT INCOMPLETE.

UM, SO WE DID FURTHER ANALYSIS ON THAT.

THAT'S IN THE STAFF REPORT.

UM, THE PROJECT DOES HAVE AN ANTICIPATED LIFE LIFETIME OF ONLY 30 YEARS.

THIS IS BECAUSE AS WE TRANSITION TO ZERO EMISSIONS, THE NEED FOR THIS PRODUCT WILL DECREASE RAPIDLY.

UM, BUT WE DON'T KNOW THE FUTURE.

IT COULD BE OPERATING MUCH LONGER.

UM, SO THE SEA LEVEL RISE ANALYSIS FOUND THAT PROJECT IMPACTS CAN BEGIN, UH, WITH, AT THE POINT WHERE WE HAVE ABOUT TWO AND A HALF FEET OF SEA LEVEL RISE COMBINED WITH A HUNDRED YEAR STORM.

SO LOOKING AT THE DATA THAT'S APPROXIMATELY 30 YEARS OUT OR A LITTLE AFTER THAT.

SO WE HAVE A CONDITION OF APPROVAL TERMINATING THE COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT AT AT 30 YEARS.

UNLESS FURTHER, THIS STUDY IS CONDUCTED OF THE SEA LEVEL RISE ISSUE.

SO BASICALLY WE HAVE A SUNSET CLAUSE ON THIS PROJECT.

NOW, UM, STAFF WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT THE IMPACTS WILL LARGE OR MAINLY CONTAINED TO THE TRACK INFRASTRUCTURE.

UH, THE TRANSFER FACILITY WHERE THE LOADING AND UNLOADING WOULD TAKE PLACE IS, IS ON HIGHER GROUND AND WOULD BE IMPACT MUCH LATER IN THE TIMELINE OR THE FORECASTED TIMELINE.

UM, I'M JUST SHOWING A LITTLE PICTURE OF THE WETLAND QUESTION.

SO, AND THIS LOCATION ON THE SITE, THERE WAS FORMER RIGHT OF WAY TRUCKS WERE USING IT, IT BECAME DEPRESSED OVER TIME, AND THAT'S WHERE WATER HAD POOLED OFF AND ON.

BUT NOW THIS IS WHAT THE AREA LOOKS LIKE.

IT'S JUST KIND OF BARE EARTH.

UM, AND I'M JUST PROVIDING THAT FOR ANYONE INTERESTED IN WHAT WAS DISCUSSED ON THE WETLAND.

UM, CONTINUING WITH THE LCP AND COASTAL ACT, UM, OUR LOCAL COAST, THE LAND USE PLAN AND OUR LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM IS UPDATED IN AUGUST OF 2024.

UM, WITHIN OUR LOCAL, OUR LAND USE PLAN, THERE ARE CHAPTERS THAT TALK ABOUT PUBLIC ACCESS AS IT RELATES TO THE COASTLINE RECREATION, MARSH PRESERVATION, VISUAL RESOURCES, INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT, AND ENVIRONMENTAL HAZARDS FOR THE COASTAL ACT, CHAPTER THREE IS THE OVERARCHING POLICIES.

UM, AND THOSE POLICIES ARE RELATED TO PUBLIC ACCESS, RECREATION, THE MARINE ENVIRONMENT, LAND RESOURCES DEVELOPMENT, AND INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF OVERLAP BETWEEN WHAT THE COASTAL ACT REQUIRES US TO LOOK AT AND WHAT OUR LOCAL PLAN REQUIRES US TO LOOK AT.

SO THERE'S LITTLE TO NO EFFECT FROM THE PROPOSED PROJECT IN MOST OF THOSE TOPICS.

UH, SO THE PROJECT IS LOCATED IN INDUSTRIAL ZONE.

IT DOES NOT REQUIRE OR IMPEDE COASTAL ACTION ACCESS.

THIS IS NOT A PLACE PEOPLE ARE RECREATING.

UM, OUR LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM, UH, PROVIDES FOR RECREATIONAL AMENITIES ELSEWHERE IN THE CITY'S COASTAL ZONE.

AGAIN, THAT'D BE MORE BASED ON THE MARINA PEPPER PARK, THAT AREA, AND THEN THE MARINA ENVIRONMENT.

UM, THIS PROJECT IS AT LEAST 1500 FEET FROM THE SAN DIEGO BAY.

UM, SO STORM WATER MANAGEMENT PRACTICES WOULD HELP PRESERVE WATER QUALITY.

UM, AND THEN THE LAND RESOURCES WOULD BE UNAFFECTED WITH MITIGATION IDENTIFIED IN THE EIR.

ALSO, THE SITE IS IN ITS CURRENT STATE, IS VISUALLY DEGRADED.

UM, A NEW DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE PROBABLY WELCOME AS FAR AS THE APPEARANCE OF THE SITE, BUT STAFF IS ALSO ASKING FOR SCREENING, WHICH WILL HELP, UH, ALLEVIATE THE INDUSTRIAL LOOKING NATURE OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT.

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MOVING ON TO OUR CITY'S LAND USE CODE, UM, AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING AT A PREVIOUS VERSION OF OUR CODE IN THE COASTAL ZONE SITE IS IN THE MEDIA MANUFACTURING ZONE.

UM, WITHIN THAT ZONE, THE STORAGE AND DISTRIBUTION OF OIL-BASED PRODUCTS IS PERMITTED WITH THE APPROVAL OF COP.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY.

UM, LOOKING AT DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, IT'S A LARGE SITE.

SETBACKS ARE MET.

THERE'S NOT A LOT OF BUILDINGS BEING BUILT HERE.

UM, OFFICE WILL BE REVIEWED AND PERMITTED AS A PERMANENT STRUCTURE.

UM, THEY NEED A LITTLE BIT BETTER MATERIALS FOR THE QUALITY OF DESIGN REQUIRED BY THE LAND USE CODE.

UM, BUT WE'RE WELL BELOW MAXIMUM HEIGHT AND FLOOR AREA IN THE ZONE.

UM, UH, NO PARKING IS REQUIRED DUE TO STATE LAW AB 2087.

THE APPLICANT IS PROVIDING FIVE SPACES INCLUDING ONE EV READY SPACE.

UM, AND THEN GENERAL DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS SUCH AS MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT SHOULD BE SCREENED, OUTDOOR LIGHTING SHOULD BE PROVIDED AND NOT SPILL OUT TO NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES.

AND TRASH AND RECYCLING SHOULD HAVE APPROPRIATE STORAGE.

SO ALL THE THINGS WE LOOK AT IN NORMAL DEVELOPMENT CAN BE ADHERED TO AND ARE ALSO INCLUDED AS CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.

A LITTLE BIT ABOUT NONCONFORMING USES.

UM, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE REASON WE'RE ALL CONCERNED ABOUT THIS PROJECT IS THAT THERE'S A LOT OF NONCONFORMING USES IN NATIONAL CITY.

SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT.

UH, WITHIN OUR MEDIUM MANUFACTURING ZONE, THERE ARE RESIDENTIAL USES.

WE HAVE MCKINLEY APARTMENTS, WE HAVE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

UH, WE ALSO HAVE A LOT OF POLLUTING BUSINESSES, INDU INDUSTRIES, AUTO REPAIR SHOPS THAT EXIST IN OUR WEST SIDE SPECIFIC PLAN AREA, WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO BE RESIDENTIAL.

UM, BUT IN BOTH INSTANCES, WHEN PROPERTIES GET REDEVELOPED, THEY HAVE TO BE REDEVELOPED IN A MANNER CONSISTENT WITH THE REQUIRED USES.

SO IF A POLLUTING BUSINESS GOES AWAY IN A RESIDENTIAL ZONE, IT'S REPLACED BY RESIDENTIAL, OR IF A SINGLE FAMILY HOME LEAVES THE INDUSTRIAL ZONE, IT BECOMES AN INDUSTRIAL USE.

UM, SO HOPEFULLY OVER TIME OUR LAND USE AND COMP IN COMPAT INCOMPATIBILITIES THAT ARE CAUSING HEALTH CONCERNS SHOULD BE DECREASING.

UM, WE ALSO HAVE AN AMORTIZATION PROGRAM THAT COULD EXPEDITE THIS PRO PROCESS.

UH, WE'VE ACTUALLY REMOVED TWO NONCONFORMING BUSINESSES FROM THE WEST SIDE, UM, A WHILE BACK.

UH, BUT THIS PROGRAM HAS, HASN'T REALLY HAD DEDICATED STAFF OR FUNDING TO KEEP IT MOVING FORWARD IN A EFFICIENT MANNER.

UM, MOVING ON WITH THE ANALYSIS IN OUR, UH, CLIMATE ACTION PLAN ADOPTED IN 2011, UPDATED IN 2023.

THE PURPOSE OF THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN IS TO ALIGN WITH STATE GOALS RELATED TO REDUCING GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS.

UH, THOSE CURRENT GOALS ARE TO REDUCE EMISSIONS 40% FROM 2018, UH, BASELINE LEVELS BY THE YEAR 2030, AND 80% BY 2050.

I BELIEVE THE CITY AND STATE ARE IN ALIGNMENT ON THIS GOAL.

UM, THE PROPOSED PROJECT WILL RESULT IN APPROXIMATELY 282 METRIC TONS A YEAR OF GHG DURING CONSTRUCTION AND ONE 1,633 METRIC TONS PER YEAR.

DURING OPERATION, UH, ALMOST ALL THE EMISSIONS WOULD BE FROM MOBILE SOURCES.

THAT WOULD BE THE TRUCK TRIPS AND THE RAIL TRIPS.

THIS AMOUNT IS BELOW THE LEVEL OF SIGNIFICANCE RECOMMENDED BY OUR CITY'S ADOPTED CLIMATE ACTION PLAN.

SO JUST I MAKE IT CLEAR, IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT, BUT IT'S NOT IDENTIFIED AS LIKE A MAJOR PROJECT FOR GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS IN THE CITY'S PLAN.

UM, FURTHERMORE, FUEL DELIVERED BY THE PROJECT COULD REDUCE EMISSIONS BY UP TO 70% OVER STANDARD DIESEL.

I THINK AT 80% ON THE OTHER ITEM.

SO IT'S 70, 80%.

UM, THE PROJECT DOES NOT INCREASE.

THIS IS AN IMPORTANT POINT HERE.

THE PROJECT DOES NOT INCREASE THE INTENSITY OF USE FOR THE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD BE PERMITTED ON THE SUBJECT SITE.

SO WE LOOK AT TRUCK TRIPS AND HOW MUCH GHE MIGHT, UM, BE INVOLVED IN THE PROPOSED PROJECT.

BUT IF ANOTHER USE CAME IN THAT WAS PERMITTED BY WRIGHT, IT WOULD HAVE SIMILAR NUMBERS, IF NOT MORE.

UM, THERE IS A MITIGATION MEASURE, GHG ONE THAT WAS INCORPORATED IN THE EIR TO ENSURE CONSISTENCY WITH THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN.

UH, THE REVIEW OF THIS PROJECT AND THE REVIEW OF THE UPDATED CLIMATE ACTION PLAN WERE HAPPENING CONCURRENTLY.

SO WE WERE TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH THAT.

UM, BUT OTHER STRATEGIES IN THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN COULD POTENTIALLY BENEFIT FROM FUNDING, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A SECOND.

SO MOVING ON TO THE ERP, THE COMMUNITY EMISSIONS REDUCTION PLAN.

UM, THIS IS NOT A CITY PLAN, BUT THE CITY DID SIGN OFF ON IT.

UM, THIS WAS PASSED IN 2017 TO CREATE A COMMUNITY, I'M SORRY, THE STATE BILL SIX 17 WAS PASSED IN 2017 TO CREATE COMMUNITY FOCUSED, COMMUNITY DRIVEN ACTION TO REDUCE AIR POLLUTION, IMPROVE PUBLIC HEALTH.

UM, OUR LOCAL POLLUTION CONTROL DISTRICT NOMINATED THE PORT SIDE COMMUNITIES, INCLUDING NATIONAL CITY AND PORTIONS OF THE CITY, SAN DIEGO.

YOU KNOW, THE AREAS YOU HAVE AREA BY THE PORT, BY THE BASE.

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UM, AT THE TIME, THE COMMUNITY, ALL THE ZIP CODES IN THE COMMUNITY WERE IN THE 85 PERCENTILE OR HIGHER, UM, AS FAR AS BEING AFFECTED BY POLLUTION, UH, CONCERNS.

UM, AND THAT NUMBER I THINK HAS ACTUALLY INCREASED OVER TIME.

UM, SO WHERE DOES THIS COME FROM? UH, POLLUTION, POOR AIR QUALITY, UH, ARE THE RESULT OF MOBILE SOURCES OF HEAVY TRUCK TRAFFIC IN THE AREA, AS WELL AS STATIONARY SOURCES.

AS SUCH AS HEAVY INDUSTRIES.

WE ALSO GET IMPACTS FROM THE BAY ITSELF.

YOU HAVE NAVY SHIPS, PORT SHIPS, LOTS OF STUFF GOING ON.

UM, I ALSO WANNA POINT OUT DIESEL PARTICULATE MATTER.

DPM IS A KNOWN CARCINOGEN.

IT'S OF ACUTE CONCERN DUE TO THE VARIETY OF DIESEL POWERED VEHICLES AND EQUIPMENT THAT ARE OPERATED IN THE AREA.

THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF HAPPENING AT THE PORT.

THEY HAVE CRANES, THEY HAVE FORKLIFTS, THEY HAVE ALL KINDS OF EQUIPMENT AND VEHICLES MOVING AROUND.

UM, AND ALSO OF NOTE, THE PORT SIDE COMMUNITY EXPERIENCES HIGHER RATES OF POVERTY.

SO IF YOU HAVE A HEALTH CONCERN DRIVEN BY POLLUTION, YOU'RE LESS LIKELY TO HAVE THE MONEY OR TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD DOCTOR'S VISITS AND, AND DEAL WITH THOSE HEALTH PROBLEMS. UM, LIKE I SAID, IT'S NOT OFFICIAL PLAN OF THE CITY, UH, BUT STAFF STRONGLY ENCOURAGES CONSIDERATION OF THE SERVE DUE TO THE CITY'S DIRECT PARTICIPATION AND THE ADOPTION.

UM, SO, UM, MOVING ON.

UM, WHILE THE PRIMARY GOAL IS TO OF THE SURFACE REDUCE EMISSIONS, MOST OF THE ACTION ITEMS LISTED IN THAT PLAN, UM, ARE MORE ENCOURAGING CITIES AND AGENCIES TO DIRECT SOLUTIONS TO REDUCING EMISSIONS.

SO THERE'S NOT A LOT OF DIRECT ACTION ITEMS THAT SAY YOU WILL DO, YOU WILL DO THIS, YOU WILL DO THAT.

UM, THE ONLY REAL CONCRETE ACTION THAT I FOUND RELATED TO THIS PROJECT WAS MAKING SURE PROJECTS OR ACTIVITIES ADHERE TO TRUCK ROUTES.

SO THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE RECOMMENDED COMMISSIONS OF APPROVAL.

UM, BUT THE MOST NOTABLE GOALS, IN MY OPINION OF A ERP ARE TO HAVE AN 80% REDUCTION IN DPM LEVELS AND A HUNDRED PERCENT ADOPTION OF ZERO EMISSION MEDIUM AND HEAVY DUTY TRUCKS FIVE YEARS AHEAD OF THE STATE.

SO THE PLAN IS PUSHING HARD TO REMOVE, REDUCE THE EMISSIONS WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT ALL NIGHT.

UM, THE CITY HAS MADE SOME CONTRIBUTIONS THROUGH THIS PLAN.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE SUPPORTED THE FREE RIDE AROUND NATIONAL RIDE AROUND NATIONAL CITY, THE FRANK PROGRAM.

THIS IS AN ON-DEMAND ZERO EMISSIONS, UM, VEHICLE, UH, TO GET PEOPLE AROUND TOWN AS WELL AS ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLANT PROJECTS.

UM, OUR ENGINEERING PROJECT IS, OR ENGINEERING AND PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENTS CONSTANTLY WORKING ON IMPROVED BIKE LANES, SIDEWALKS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, BUT THE MAIN POINT IS THE PROJECT IS ADHERING TO THE ACTION ITEMS LISTED IN THE SERP, BUT THERE IS CONFLICT WITH THE OVERARCHING GOALS OF THE, OF THE PLAN, WHICH IS TO REDUCE EMISSIONS, UM, BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME EMISSIONS PRESENT.

UM, JUST A HIGH LEVEL THOUGHT HERE, YOU KNOW, FOR THE COMMISSION, WE'RE IN A WEIRD SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE A CONFLICT BETWEEN TWO STATE LAWS.

WE HAVE AB 32, UH, REDUCING GREENHOUSE GASES THROUGHOUT THE STATE AND THE DIRECTION TO HAVE THE LOW CARBON FUEL STANDARDS MET.

THIS PROJECT INTENDS TO HELP WITH THAT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE ALSO HAVE AB SIX 17 ENCOURAGING THE REDUCTION OF EMISSIONS WITHIN SPECIFIC COMMUNITIES, INCLUDING THE PORT SIDE COMMUNITY.

SO, UM, WE'RE GETTING BIG SIGNALS FROM THE STATE .

UM, FINALLY, OTHER CONSIDERATIONS ABOUT THIS PROJECT.

UM, SO STEPH IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS IN THE DRAFT RESOLUTION.

UM, THE ANALYSIS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SO FAR DOESN'T FULLY ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS ABOUT THE SERP OR EVEN THE HEJ, UM, BUT THE APPLICANT HAS VOLUNTARILY COMMITTED TO PROVIDING AN ECONOMIC BENEFIT TO THE CITY OF NASHVILLE CITY IN THE AMOUNT OF $200,000 ANNUALLY FOR THE LIFE OF THE PROJECT.

SO STAFF IS RECOMMENDING A CONDITION OF APPROVAL THAT DIRECTS THE USE OF THESE FUNDS TO IMPLEMENT STRATEGIES.

THINGS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT OR I'VE TALKED ABOUT IN THIS PRESENTATION, UH, AIMED AT THE REDUCTIONS OF EMISSIONS AND IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF LIFE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE VICINITY OF THE PROPOSED FACILITY.

UM, SO STAFF IS BASICALLY SAYING IF FUNDS ARE USED PROPERLY, THEY CAN MORE THAN MAKE UP FOR THE POTENTIAL FOR EMISSIONS FROM THIS PROJECT.

UM, SO THINGS THAT COULD BE LOOKED AT, PROVIDING AIR FILTERS TO SENSITIVE RECEPTORS, SUCH AS LIKE IN THE MCKINLEY APARTMENTS, URBAN GREENING EFFORTS, PUTTING IN TREES, ENHANCED LANDSCAPING, UH, IMPLEMENTATION OF BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN PROJECTS WITHIN THE CITY TO REDUCE VEHICLES.

MILES TRAVELED, CONTINUING THE OPERATIONS OF THE FRANC, WHICH NEEDS TO BE A POPULAR PROGRAM OR FUNDING AMORTIZATION, UH, TO GET POLLUTING BUSINESSES OUT OF DIRECT RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.

UM, SO THESE ARE THE OTHER CONSIDERATION STAFF IS LOOKING AT WHEN RECOMMENDING APPROVAL.

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ON TO THE CALIFORNIA IN ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT.

UM, STAFF IS ALSO RECOMMENDING A RESOLUTION CERTIFYING A FINAL EIR FOR THIS PROJECT, WHICH WILL BE CONSIDERED BEFORE APPROVAL OF THE CUP AND CDP.

UM, ORIGINALLY THE PROJECT CAME IN WITH A PROPOSED MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION, UH, AFTER IT WAS POSTED FOR PUBLIC REVIEW, AS I MENTIONED, WE RECEIVED A LOT OF COMMENTS.

CITY ULTIMATELY REQUESTED AN EIR.

UM, WE TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THE EIR.

UM, WE HAD THE SCOPING MEETING, AND THEN WE POSTED THE DOCUMENT FOR PUBLIC REVIEW DECEMBER 6TH THROUGH JANUARY 29TH.

UM, A LITTLE BIT EXTENDED PROCESS DUE TO OUR FURLOUGH AT THE CITY.

UM, ANY RESPONSES FROM THAT PUBLIC REVIEW PERIOD WERE INCLUDED IN THE FINAL EIR, WHICH INCLUDES COMMENTS RECEIVED AND, UH, RESPONSES FROM THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANT.

THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS, THERE REALLY HAVEN'T BEEN SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO THE EIR OR THE MITIGATION MEASURES THAT WERE ORIGINALLY PRO PROPOSED BASED ON THE COMMENTS.

UM, AND THEN JUST TO KNOW ALL THE DOCUMENTS IN THAT EIR WERE PREPARED BY ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS, SO A PROFESSIONAL WHO DEALS WITH THESE MATTERS.

SO THESE WERE THE, WHAT WERE IDENTIFIED AS POTENTIALLY SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS DURING THE REVIEW PROCESS, UM, RELATED TO BIOLOGICAL RESOURCES.

UM, IS ONE SPECIAL STATUS PLANT SPECIES, UM, CONCERNS ABOUT NESTING BIRDS.

UM, UH, THIS IS BY THE BAY, SO WE HAVE A LOT OF, UH, ACTIVITY THERE.

POTENTIAL ROOSTING BATS IN THE PALM TREES ON SITE, UH, AGAIN.

UM, AND THEN MITIGATION MEASURES WERE PUT IN PLACE SO THAT CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES WOULD NOT DISTURB, UM, SUCH BIOLOGICAL RESOURCES, UM, UNDER GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS.

AGAIN, UH, POTENTIAL CONFLICT WITH THE CAP UPDATE, WHICH WAS HAPPENING AT THE SAME TIME.

SO WE INCLUDED A MITIGATION RELATED TO THAT.

UH, AND THEN FINALLY, TRIBAL OR CULTURAL RESOURCES.

UM, THERE IS A SMALL AREA OF THE SITE THAT HAS, UH, DEPOSITS THAT COULD POTENTIALLY RETAIN ARCHEOLOGICAL ARTIFACTS, UH, WITHIN THE GROUND.

UH, SO DURING CONSTRUCTION AS ACTIVITIES, MITIGATION IS TO HAVE MONITORING FOR ANY PALEONTOLOGICAL OR ARCHEOLOGICAL RESOURCES.

COMMENTS RECEIVED ON THIS PROJECT BUILDING DIVISION PROVIDED STANDARD COMMENTS RELATED TO, UH, MEETING APPLICABLE CODES.

ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT PROVIDED STA STANDARD COMMENTS RELATED TO NEW DEVELOPMENTS AND GRADING.

UH, THERE ARE ALSO SOME REQUIRED RIGHT OF WAY IMPROVEMENTS, UH, WHICH THE APPLICANT WAS MADE AWARE OF.

UM, FIRE DEPARTMENT PROVIDED COMMENTS RELATED TO ACCESS TO THE SITE, THE DESIGN OF THE FIRE SUPPRESSION EQUIPMENT, SPECIALIZED EQUIPMENT, UH, DUE TO THE PRESENCE OF HAZARDOUS MATERIALS, UH, PLANNING DIVISION COMMENTED OR PROVIDED CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL RELATED TO MEETING DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS IN THE MEDIA MANUFACTURING ZONE.

UH, ALL MITIGATION MEASURES FROM THE EIR ARE INCLUDED IN THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.

UH, WE ALSO HAVE CONDITIONS, UH, ADDRESSING OPERATIONAL STANDARDS FOR THE PROPOSED FACILITY, HOW MUCH PROJECT THEIR PRODUCT THEY'RE ALLOWED TO TRANSFER, THE NUMBER OF TRUCK CHIPS, UH, ADHERENCE TO THE ECONOMIC BENEFIT, THEY SAID THEY WOULD DO, UM, AN ADHERENCE TO LOCALLY DESIGNATED TRUCK ROUTES.

IN SUMMARY, UH, THE PROJECT IS A PROPOSED FUEL TRANSFER FACILITY TO BE LOCATED ON AND ADJACENT TO BNSF RAILWAY.

UH, UP TO 72 DIESEL POWERED TRUCKS MAY BE ENTERING THE SITE EACH DAY.

UH, THE PROJECT WILL PROVIDE ACCESS TO CLEANER ALTERNATIVE DIESEL FUELS WITHIN THE REGION.

THERE WAS AN ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENT PREPARED THEN ANY EIR AND NO SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS WERE IDENTIFIED AS LONG AS THE MITIGATION MEASURES ARE IN PLACE.

UM, AND FINALLY, THE APPLICANT IS VOLUNTEERING TO ENTER AN E INTO AN ECONOMIC BENEFIT AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY, UH, WHICH WAS THE $200,000 ANNUALLY FOR THE LIFE OF THE PROJECT.

SO ACTIONS TO BE CONSIDERED TONIGHT, UH, WE FIR THE PLANNING COMMISSION MUST FIRST CONSIDER THE CERTIFICATION OF THE IR FOR THE PROPOSED PROJECT.

THAT'S THE ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENT.

UH, ONCE THAT CONSIDERATION IS OVER, UM, THEN THERE WOULD BE THE CONSIDERATION OF THE APPROVAL OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT THAT WOULD AUTHORIZE THE PROPOSED LAND USE.

SO, OPTIONS FOR THE COMMISSION, UM, TO CERTIFY THE FINAL ERR FOR THE PROPOSED PROJECT THAT, UH, THAT THE EIR HAS BEEN COMPLETED AND PROCESSED IN COMPLIANCE WITH CQA AND, UM, THAT'S A LOT OF WORDS THERE.

, UH, BASED ON FINDINGS INCLUDED IN THE REVOLUTION OR FINDINGS DETERMINED BY THE COMMISSION, OR FIND THAT THE EIR HAS NOT BEEN COMPLETED IN PROCESSED IN COMPLIANCE WITH CQA BASED ON FINDINGS DETERMINED BY THE COMMISSION OR CONTINUE THE ITEM TO A SPECIFIC DATE IN ORDER TO AT OBTAIN ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, UM, CERTIFYING THE EER IS NOT APPROVING THE PROJECT.

UM, THAT WOULD BE UNDER SEPARATE ACTION.

SO THE OPTIONS FOR THAT ACTION APPROVE ARE THE

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CONSIDERATION OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT.

UM, COMMISSION CAN APPROVE BASED ON THE CONDITIONS IN THE DRAFT RESOLUTION OR ANY OTHER CONDITIONS PROPOSED BY THE COMMISSION, UH, AND BASED ON FINDINGS IN THE RESOLUTION OR OTHER FINDINGS DETERMINED BY THE COMMISSION, OR DENY THE APPROVAL BASED ON, ON THE ATTACHED FINDINGS, THERE WAS A, A DRAFT DENIAL RESOLUTION PROVIDED OR FINDINGS DETERMINED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR CONTINUE THE ITEM FOR MORE, MORE INFORMATION.

FINALLY, THE NEXT STEPS AFTER THIS HEARING NOTICE OF DEC DECISION BASED ON, UH, WHAT THE COMMISSION DOES TONIGHT WILL BE FORWARDED TO OUR CITY COUNCIL.

OUR COUNCIL DOES HAVE THE ABILITY TO ASK, ASK FOR A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM.

UM, AND THEN AFTER THE CITY TAKES FINAL ACTION, WHICH WOULD BE COUNCIL, AND THERE IS ALSO THE, UH, APPEAL ABILITY TO THE COASTAL COMMISSION.

ONCE AGAIN, OVERVIEW OF THE SITE.

UM, AND THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S RATHER LENGTHY PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU, MR. WELCH.

I INVITE THE APPLICANT OR THEIR REPRESENTATIVE TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES AND ADDRESS THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THEIR 15 MINUTE PRESENTATION.

DOES THE APPLICANT YES, PLEASE COME UP HERE TO THE, UH, PODIUM.

WHAT IS YOUR NAME, SIR? IT'S BILL KIN.

I'M SORRY, HOW DO YOU SPELL YOUR LAST NAME? YOU'RE NOT THE FIRST PERSON TO ASK .

I'M GLAD WE PRONOUNCE IT WRONG AND SPELL IT FUNNY, BUT IT'S FRER KING, KING.

THANK YOU SIR.

COMMISSIONERS AND, UH, PLANNING STAFF.

UM, I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THE COMMISSION VOTE TO RECOMMEND THE SAN DIEGO CLEAN FUELS PROJECT IN NATIONAL CITY FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE ENVIRONMENT.

NATIONAL CITY, GREATER SAN DIEGO AREA, AND THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.

I'M BILL ING.

I'M THE CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER OF USD CLEAN FUELS.

ON BEHALF OF THE USD CLEAN FUELS TEAM, I'M PROUD TO PRESENT THIS PRO-ENVIRONMENT ECONOMIC BENEFIT PROJECT TO HELP MEET THE CLEAN AIR GOALS OF NATIONAL CITY.

IT DELIVERS CLEANER AIR THROUGH CLEANER FUELS, WHILE ELIMINATING THE NEED FOR 2.4 MILLION TRUCK MILES A YEAR THAT ARE CURRENTLY DELIVERING THOSE FUELS TO THIS AREA.

THIS PROJECT IS A LAND USE DECISION FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

THE RAILROAD PROPERTY ON WHICH, UM, THIS WILL SIT IS PROPERLY ZONED AND DESIGNATED FOR THE PROPOSED USE.

IT HAS NO RESIDENTIAL USE OR NON RAILROAD COMMERCIAL USE.

THE RAILROAD INTENDS TO PUT THIS PROPERTY TO USE.

IF THIS PROJECT IS NOT APPROVED, IT IS SAFE TO SAY THAT THE OTHER USES THE RAILROAD CHOOSES WILL NOT GENERATE THE CLEAN AIR BENEFITS TO NATIONAL CITY THAT THIS PROJECT WILL NOR HAVE TAXABLE REVENUE GENERATING ACTIVITIES AS IT WILL BE ON RAILROAD PROPERTY.

THIS PROJECT IS UNIQUELY GOOD.

IT'S A SAFE, LOW RISK SERVICE THAT MOVES CLEAN FUELS FROM TRAINS TO TRUCKS.

IT PRESENTS NO SIGNIFICANT RISKS ACCORDING TO CE QA, YET DELIVERS LOTS OF BENEFITS THAT INCLUDE, INCLUDE CLEANER AIR ASSOCIATED WITH CLEANER FUELS.

PROJECT HAS GENERATED A LOT OF ATTENTION.

AS YOU WILL LIKELY HEAR TONIGHT.

NATIONAL CITY RESIDENTS ARE SPLIT ON WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS A BENEFICIAL PROJECT, BUT THE FACTS ON THESE PROJECT ARE NOT SPLIT.

THEY ALL REFLECT A PROJECT WITH MANY BENEFITS AND NO SIGNIFICANT RISKS.

TONIGHT, AS YOU, UH, CAST YOUR VOTE, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONSIDER THE MANY GOOD REASONS TO VOTE TO RECOMMEND THIS PROJECT AND BE PART OF THE CLEANER AIR SOLUTION FOR NATIONAL CITY.

SINCE THE JUNE 2ND HEARING, AS YOU'VE HEARD, UM, WE'VE WORKED WITH THE CITY STAFF TO SUCCESSFULLY ADDRESS AND RESOLVE THE ISSUES RAISED BY THE CALIFORNIA COASTAL COMMISSION, AND, UH, WE'VE APPRECIATED THE WORK OF THE STAFF SINCE THIS PROJECT'S BEGAN.

I WILL HIGHLIGHT THREE REASONS THAT, UH, I THINK YOU CAN BE COMFORTABLE, UM, WITH THIS PROJECT.

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THE FIRST REASON TO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT IS CONFIDENCE IN THE SE QL PROCESS.

SE QL PROVIDE PROVIDES EVIDENCE OF RISK OVER THE PERCEPTION OF RISK.

THIS COMMISSION CAN BE CONFIDENT THAT THIS IS A SAFE PROJECT WITH NO SIGNIFICANT POTENTIAL RISK, BECAUSE THAT'S SQUA CONCLUSION.

IT'S NOT THE STAFF'S CONCLUSION.

IT'S NOT THE PROJECT.

APPLICANT'S CO UH, CONCLUSION IT'S C NOT ONE SIGNIFICANT RISK HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED USING THE MOST ROBUST REVIEW PROCESS IN CQA.

THE EIR THE ISSUES OF RISK FOR THIS PROJECT COMES DOWN TO REALLY ONE QUESTION.

HOW MUCH DO WE TRUST CQA? I TRUST IT.

USD, CLEAN FUELS TRUST IT.

THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA TRUST IT AND I SUGGEST CQA PRIMARILY EXISTS SO THAT YOU CAN TRUST IT.

THIS PROJECT BEGAN ALMOST FOUR YEARS AGO SINCE THAT TIME, AS YOU'VE HEARD, AND IT'S GONE THROUGH CO PROCESSES TWICE THE M AND D THAT CAME OUT AND WAS POSTED FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

AND THEN AT THE CITY'S INSISTENCE TO ENSURE RIGOROUS EVALUATION FOR THE BENEFITS OF THE RESIDENTS AND THOSE LIKE YOU WHO HAVE TO VOTE ON IT.

UM, APPLYING THE MOST STRINGENT STANDARD IN SQL, WHICH IS THE EIR PROCESS.

THE, UH, AS YOU'VE SEEN THE LIST OF, UM, SUBJECTS REVIEWED, THE IMPACT SUMMARY SLIDE SHOWS THE NUMEROUS CATEGORIES OF RISK EVALUATED IN THE SECRET CONCLUSIONS.

IN THE EIR REPORT, IT SHOWS THAT OUR PROJECT PRESENTS NO SIGNIFICANT RISKS FOR ANY OF THE AREAS STUDIED.

THOSE CONCLUSIONS SHOULD GIVE COMFORT TO THE COMMISSIONERS AS WELL AS THE RESIDENTS OF NATIONAL CITY TO SUPPORT THE ASSERTION.

THE LANGUAGE OF SE QA ITSELF DESCRIBES THE BASIC PURPOSES OF SE QA.

THE BASIC PURPOSES OF SEQUEL ARE TO INFORM GOVERNMENT DECISION MAKERS AND THE PUBLIC ABOUT THE POTENTIAL SIGNIFICANT ENVIRONMENTAL EFFECTS OF PROPOSED ACTIVITIES.

AGAIN, NONE HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED, AND I'LL JUMP DOWN TO FOUR, DISCLOSE TO THE PUBLIC THE REASONS WHY A GOVERNMENTAL AGENCY APPROVED THE PROJECT IN THE MANNER THE AGENCY CHOSE.

IF SIGNIFICANT ENVIRONMENTAL EFFECTS ARE INVOLVED, SEQUI DOES NOT EXPRESSLY ADDRESS PROJECTS IN WHICH NO SIGNIFICANT ENVIRONMENTAL EFFECTS ARE INVOLVED.

THE LOGICAL ASSUMPTION IS THAT THE CALIFORNIA ASSEMBLY BELIEVED THAT THERE SHOULD BE NO REASONABLE BASIS FOR OPPOSING SUCH A LOW RISK PROJECT.

THE PURPOSES OF CQA LAW AND THE CONCLUSIONS IN THE EIO ARE SHOULD GIVE COMMISSIONERS HIGH CONFIDENCE THAT THE POTENTIAL SIGNIFICANT ENVIRONMENTAL EFFECTS OF THE PROPOSED ACTIVITIES ARE NOT SIGNIFICANT.

THE UNDERLYING LAND ZONING AND USE ARE NOT DISPUTED.

THE SECOND REASON TO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT IS IT WILL DELIVER CLEANER AIR, LOCAL JOBS AND SAFETY.

IT IS THE QUICKEST AND MOST SIGNIFICANT WAY TO BRING CLEANER AIR TO NATIONAL CITY AND THE SURROUNDING AREAS.

THE PROJECT IMMEDIATELY PROVIDES CLEAN FUELS FOR ALL CARS, TRUCKS, EQUIPMENTS ON ROAD OFF ROAD THAT ARE USED IN THIS AREA, AND IT DELIVERS THEM IN A SIGNIFICANTLY IMPROVED MANNER, REDUCING OVERALL PER GALLON DELIVERED EMISSIONS FROM HOW THOSE FUELS ARE ARRIVING TODAY, THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA THINKS THAT CLEAN FUEL SOLUTIONS LIKE THIS PROJECT ARE IMPORTANT.

I DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION TO THE AUGUST 20TH, 2023 CARB PRESS RELEASE AND THE COMMENTS OF ITS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR DR.

STEVEN CLIFF.

AS TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCES, PUT A ZERO EMISSIONS FEATURE WITHIN REACH, THE USE OF CLEANER FUELS OFFERS AN ESSENTIAL TOOL TO REDUCE POLLUTION.

NOW, THAT IS THE PRIORITY OF THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF CARB UPON COMMENCING OPERATION.

THIS PROJECT WILL ELIMINATE LOTS OF TRUCKS THAT ARE NOW DELIVERING FUELS TO THIS AREA.

TODAY, THERE ARE ABOUT 2.4 MILLION TRUCK MILES DRIVEN DELIVERING FUELS FROM THE LA AREA TO THIS PART OF SAN DIEGO AND NATIONAL CITY.

THIS PROJECTS ELIMINATES THE NEED FOR THOSE LONG DELIVERIES.

AIR EMISSION DECREASES

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FROM THOSE AVOIDED TRUCK TRIPS ARE AMONG THE BENNY.

MANY BENEFITS THAT THIS PROJECT DELIVERS.

THIS PROJECT CREATES NEW JOBS IN NATIONAL CITY.

THE USE OF HIGHLY SKILLED AND TRAINED LABOR AND CONSTRUCTION BENEFITS, THE SAFETY AND QUALITY OF THIS PROJECT.

IN ADDITION, USD CLEAN FUELS MANAGEMENT AND OPERATION TEAMS HAVE OPERATED FUEL TRANSLOAD FACILITIES WITH ZERO RECORDABLE INJURIES AND ZERO REPORTABLE SPILLS SINCE 2008, THAT'S 17 YEARS OF SAFE OPERATION.

WE'VE DONE EXTENSIVE PUBLIC OUTREACH SINCE WE FIRST APPROACHED THE CITY ABOUT THIS PROJECT IN LATE 2021, WE MET WITH CITY STAFF, ELECTED OFFICIALS, OPPONENTS OF THIS PROJECT, SPECIFICALLY EHC.

WE'VE HELD TOWN HALL MEETING IN THE COUNCIL DISTRICT OF THE PROJECT SITE TO EXPLAIN OUR PROJECT AND LISTEN TO FEEDBACK.

AND WE MET INDIVIDUALLY WITH VARIOUS SUPPORTERS AND OPPONENTS.

WE LISTENED AND WE RESPONDED TO WHAT WE HEARD.

CONCERNS HAVE BEEN RAISED ABOUT SAFETY OF TRANSLOADING FUELS IN THE COMMUNITY.

AGAIN, UNDER THE RIGOROUS ANALYSIS OF REIR, NO SIGNIFICANT POTENTIAL RISK ASSOCIATED WITH CONSTRUCTION OR OPERATION OF THIS FACILITY HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED.

WE HEARD MANY CONCERNS ABOUT TRUCKS AND TRAFFIC.

BY THE WAY, THIS IS THE SLIDE OF HOW THE FUELS ARE CURRENTLY ARRIVING TO THIS AREA FROM THE LA AREA.

BASICALLY FROM TWO ROUTES.

THAT'S WHERE RAIL CURRENTLY ENDS AND TRUCK IS HOW THESE FUELS, UH, GET TO THIS AREA.

TODAY WE HEARD MANY CONCERNS ABOUT TRUCKS AND TRUCK TRAFFIC.

WE ANTICIPATE YOU WILL HEAR MORE TONIGHT.

THE CONCLUSIONS OF THE EIR SUGGEST AND REFLECT THAT TRUCK TRAFFIC IS BELOW THE VEHICLE.

MILES TRAVELED STANDARDS OF SIGNIFICANCE IN THE EIR ANALYSIS AND THERE ARE NO SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE TRUCK TRIPS.

AGAIN, WE TRUST CQA AND SUGGEST YOU CAN AS WELL.

WE LISTENED AND AGREED TO THE CITY'S TRUCK ROUTES, UM, TO AVOID SCHOOLS, CHURCHES, AND HOMES.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THE NEAREST CHURCH AND SCHOOL IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF I FIVE FROM THIS PROJECT AND THAT OUR TRUCK ROUTES DO NOT GO NEAR THAT SCHOOL.

WHILE CONCERNS ABOUT THIS PROJECT REMAIN AMONG SOME, THE EVIDENCE BEFORE YOU DOES NOT VALIDATE THOSE CONCERNS, DO THE CONTRARY.

CALIFORNIA'S MOST STRINGENT PRE-PROJECT REVIEW PROCESS, AND I BELIEVE THE MOST STRINGENT PRE-PROJECT REVIEW PROCESS IN THE COUNTRY CONCLUDES THE IMPACTS TO OUR PROJECT ARE NOT SIGNIFICANT.

THE THIRD REASON TO RECOMMEND THIS PROJECT IS IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO BREAK THE NATIONAL CITY CYCLE.

WE LEARNED ABOUT THE NATIONAL CITY CYCLE AND OUR EXTENSIVE PUBLIC OUTREACH.

IT REFERS TO THE BELIEF OF SOME THAT HISTORICALLY THE CITY BEARS THE BURDENS OF PROJECTS WITHOUT RECEIVING THE BENEFITS OF THOSE PROJECTS.

I CANNOT SPEAK TO THE HISTORY AND NATIONAL CITY.

I CAN CONFIDENTLY SPEAK ABOUT THE PROJECT BEFORE YOU.

WE BELIEVE THEIR OUTREACH EFFORTS ALONE ARE AN EXAMPLE OF BREAKING THE CYCLE.

THIS IS A PRO-ENVIRONMENT CLEAN AIR PROJECT THAT PUTS NATIONAL CITY AT THE FOREFRONT OF DELIVERING ON THE PROMISE OF CLEANER AIR.

AND IT SETS AN EXAMPLE OF BENEFICIAL PROJECT, A BENEFICIAL PROJECT WITH NO SIGNIFICANT NEGATIVE IMPACTS.

THIS PROJECT HAS MANY BENEFITS.

I'LL MENTION A FEW.

ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT, THE AIR PERMIT, AND ALL OTHER PERMIT REQUIREMENTS.

USD CLEAN FUELS VOLUNTARILY OFFERING THE NATIONAL CITY FIRE DEPARTMENT USE OF OUR MOBILE FOAM FIREFIGHTING PLATFORM, A TOOL WHICH NATIONAL CITY FIRE DOES NOT HAVE, AND OUR VOLUNTARY DIRECT ECONOMIC BENEFIT PAYMENT OF $200,000 A YEAR FOR THE LIFE OF OUR PROJECT WINS.

ZERO TAXES AND ZERO FEES ARE OWED FOR ACTIVITIES ASSOCIATED WITH OUR PROJECT ON THIS SITE.

THE ECONOMIC BENEFIT COMPONENT WAS A RESULT OF USD CLEAN FUELS LISTENING.

THE PROJECT IS ON NON-TAXABLE RAILROAD PROPERTY OWNED BY THE RAILROAD AND THE TRANSLOADING ACTIVITIES ARE NOT TAXABLE.

THE CITY AND OTHERS RAISED POTENTIAL BURDENS TO THE CITY.

THE MOST SPECIFIC WAS ROAD WEAR AND TEAR.

OUR VOLUNTARY ANNUAL PAYMENT

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IS OUR RESPONSE.

WE USE ROAD MILES TO AND FROM OUR PROPERTY.

FROM I FIVE APPLIED THE METHODOLOGY EXPLAINED IN YOUR PACKET TO DETERMINE WHAT THE IMPACT MIGHT BE ON MAINTENANCE.

THEN WE ROUNDED IT UP.

THAT PAYMENT IS FOR THE CITY'S USE AS IT DEEMS APPROPRIATE THAT PAYMENT IS VOLUNTARY.

IT IS SAFE TO SAY THAT NO OTHER PROJECT WHICH THE BNSF RAILROAD MAY BRING TO THIS PROPERTY WILL GENERATE THAT LEVEL OF REVENUE.

ONE MINUTE.

ANY REVENUE FOR THE CITY? YOU'VE SEEN THE CLEANED UP BLIGHTED PROPERTY AND IT'LL BE PUT TO COMMERCIAL USE.

IN SUMMARY, THE BENEFIT OF THIS PROJECT MEETS THE ZONING AND LAND USE.

IT'S THE QUICKEST WAY FOR CLEAN AIR AND IT HAS MANY BENEFITS TO THIS AREA, INCLUDING ELIMINATING 2.4 MILLION TRUCK MILES A YEAR DELIVERING FUELS.

THIS SITE WAS SIMPLY SELECTED BECAUSE IT IS THE LOWEST EMISSION WAY TO DELIVER FUELS TO THIS AREA WITH RAIL, THE LOWEST PROVEN WAY TO MOVE GOODS EMISSIONS PER DELIVERED TON OF GOOD OR GALLON OF GOOD OVER THE LAND.

AND THIS WILL MAC MINIMIZE AIR EMISSIONS FROM THE DELIVERY OF THOSE FUELS FROM WHAT THEY ARE TODAY, AND IT WILL MINIMIZE THE TRUCK ROUTES, DELIVERING THEM TO AN APPROXIMATELY 35 MILE RADIUS FROM THIS PROJECT TIME.

THANK YOU AND I, UH, RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT YOU APPROVE THIS PROJECT.

THANK YOU, MR. FERRA KING.

WE WILL NOW HEAR FROM, UH, ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER.

EACH PERSON MAY ADDRESS THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR A MAXIMUM OF TWO MINUTES BECAUSE WE HAVE NEARLY, ALMOST 40 SPEAKERS.

I WOULD ASK EVERYBODY TO MAKE SURE YOUR COMMENTS ARE CONCISE TO THE POINT AND THAT THERE BE NO REPETITION.

IF SOMEBODY HAS ALREADY COVERED THE ITEMS THAT YOU WISH TO SPEAK ABOUT, PLEASE SIMPLY STATE YOUR OPPOSITION SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.

OTHERWISE, WE'LL BE HERE TILL TWO O'CLOCK TOMORROW MORNING.

CAN I TAKE A BREAK? PLEASE TAKE A BREAK.

I DO HAVE A REQUEST FOR A FIVE MINUTE BREAK BEFORE WE GET INTO PUBLIC COMMENTS.

SO, UH, WE WILL BREAK.

IT IS 7 13 5 MINUTES.

WE WILL BEGIN.

UM, AS A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, BEFORE WE TOOK THE BREAK, UH, I WAS MENTIONING THAT WE HAVE ABOUT 40 PEOPLE WHO WISH TO SPEAK TONIGHT, UH, BOTH FOR AGAINST AND NEUTRAL ON THE PROJECT.

UM, I HAD REQUESTED THAT PEOPLE NOT REPEAT POINTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN MADE.

HOWEVER, THIS BEING A DEMOCRACY, IF YOU FEEL THE NEED TO GET UP, YOU MAY MAKE YOUR POINT.

YOU WILL NOT BE HELD BACK FROM DOING THAT.

UH, SO, OKAY.

THE FIRST PEAKER THAT I'VE BEEN INVITING UP IS CHRISTINA BENSON.

HI, GOOD EVENING.

UH, MY NAME IS CHRISTINA BENSON AND I'M A FIFTH GRADE TEACHER AT CENTRAL SCHOOL.

I'VE BEEN TEACHING FOR 18 YEARS IN THE NATIONAL SCHOOL DISTRICT AND I'M A PROUD KIMBALL STUDENT.

TODAY.

THE KIMBALL SCHOOL AREA PLAYS A HUGE ROLE IN MY WORK AS A SCIENCE EDUCATOR INSIDE AND OUTSIDE OF THE CLASSROOM.

FOR THE PAST 12 YEARS, MY STUDENTS AND I HAVE WALKED FROM CENTRAL SCHOOL TO PARADISE CREEK EDUCATIONAL PARK TO LEARN ABOUT THE ECOSYSTEM THAT THRIVES IN THE WATERSHED.

THE WATERSHED IS A NATIVE ECOSYSTEM THAT THE NA, THE WATERSHED IS A NATIVE WETLAND, THE KIDNEYS OF THE OCEAN.

IT'S LOCATED BEHIND KIMBALL SCHOOL, THREE FOURTHS OF A MILE FROM THE PROPOSED STATION SITE, AND A PLACE WHERE RAIN RUNOFF TRAVELS BEFORE IT GOES OUT TO THE OCEAN.

STUDENTS FROM LAS PALMAS LINCOLN ACRE CENTRAL SCHOOL IN KIMBALL USES AREA AS AN OUTDOOR LEARNING SPACE.

WE LEARN ABOUT STORM WATER POLLUTION AND PREVENTION AND OTHER OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES THAT HELP TO FACILITATE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT OUR NATIONAL CITY ENVIRONMENT.

STUDENTS LEARNED THAT THE NUMBER ONE CAUSES OF POLLUTION TO OUR WATERWAYS IN THE WATERSHED IS FROM GAS AND OIL FROM VEHICLES.

JUST LAST YEAR ON EARTH DAY, MY FIFTH GRADERS TAUGHT THIRD GRADERS FROM KIMBALL SCHOOL ABOUT STORMWATER POLLUTION.

WHEN ASKED IN A SURVEY, WHAT IMPORTANT IDEA ABOUT AIR, WATER, OR THE EARTH DID YOU LEARN TODAY? THIRD GRADERS FROM KIMBALL SAID, WATER GETS CONTAMINATED FROM GASOLINE OR CAR,

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CAR OIL.

IF THE WATER GETS POLLUTED, IT'S VERY HARD TO CLEAN THAT.

DRIVING OIL FROM VEHICLES WHEN IT COMES OUT WILL GO OUT INTO THE OCEAN 30 SECONDS.

BY MOVING THIS PLAN FORWARD, YOU WOULD BE CREATING A REAL WORLD EXAMPLE FOR OUR STUDENTS TO CRITICALLY ASK, WHY, WHY WOULD YOU PUT SOMETHING THAT CAN CAUSE DAMAGE TO THE WATER IN THE NEARBY ECOSYSTEM? WHY WOULD YOU APPROVE A PLAN THAT WOULD ADD POLLUTANTS IN THE AIR THAT STUDENTS AND TEACHERS WOULD BE BREATHING? AS A LIFELONG EDUCATOR, I'M DISGUSTED TO THINK THAT THE AIR I WILL BE BREATHING IN THE YEARS TO COME COULD MAKE ME OR ANY OF MY STUDENTS SICK.

I URGE YOU TO VOTE NO ON THIS PLAN.

MAKE IT CLEAR THAT OUR STUDENTS, TEACHERS, AND RESIDENTS ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE PENNIES OUR STU OUR CITY WILL BE RECEIVING FROM THIS PLAN.

THANK YOU, MS. BENSON.

THE NEXT SPEAKER, UM, IS EMMETT FARRELL.

PLEASE COME UP.

UM, MR. FARRELL, YOU, UH, DIDN'T SPEC.

THIS IS FOR THE ITEM THAT IS BEFORE US NOW.

YOU DIDN'T SPECIFY.

YES, IT IS FOR ITEM NUMBER THREE.

MY BASIC REASON FOR BEING HERE, BY THE WAY, GOOD EVENING PLANNING COMMISSION.

THANK YOU WITH THE OPPORTUNITY.

MY BASIC REASON FOR BEING HERE IS AS A PERSON OF FAITH, UH, I THINK THIS WHOLE THING IS IMMORAL.

THERE'S NO WAY YOU CAN BRING A HUNDRED GASOLINE BURNING TRUCKS INTO AN AREA WITHOUT, UH, RUINING THE AIR QUALITY.

IT'S ALREADY BAD, BUT THIS WILL MAKE IT MUCH WORSE.

I WAS PASTOR OF ST.

ANTHONY'S RIGHT ACROSS FROM KIMBALL SCHOOL UNTIL 2002 TO 2006, AND THE PRINCIPAL CAME OVER FOR ONE DAY AND SHE SAID TO US, WE DID A, A SURVEY OF OUR STUDENTS.

WE FOUND OUT THAT A HIGH PERCENTAGE OF OUR STUDENTS ARE SUFFERING FROM ASTHMA.

THAT WAS IN 2002, 2004, SOMEWHERE IN THERE.

AND ANOTHER REASON I'M HERE IS I WORK FOR THE, UM, DIOCESE ON A CREATION CARE MINISTRY, WHICH IS TRYING TO BE PROMOTE, UM, THE ENVIRONMENT AND LOWER CLIMATE CHANGE.

AND THE ENCYCLICAL BIBLE FRANCIS IN 2015, IT WAS A WORLDWIDE MONUMENTAL DOCUMENT, SAID THAT, UH, HE STUDIED WITH A HUNDRED SCIENTISTS AND HE SAID, THERE'S A SOLID CONSENSUS THAT CLIMATE CHANGE IS REAL.

THE PRINCIPLE CAUSES HUMAN ACTIVITY AND BASING AMONG THEM IS THE BURNING OF FOSSIL FUELS.

SO THERE'S NO WAY IN MY MIND THAT YOU CAN BRING A HUNDRED TRUCKS BURNING FOSSIL FUELS THROUGH A NEIGHBORHOOD WITHOUT POLLUTING THE AIR.

AND MY SECOND REASON FOR THAT IS TO ME IT'S IMMORAL TO, UH, UH, PUT PROFITS OVER THE HEALTH OF YOUR PEOPLE.

UM, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO, IF THIS PROJECT GOES THROUGH, IT IS GOING TO, UH, AFFECT THE HEALTH OF THE KIM.

NOT ONLY THE CHILDREN AT CAMPBELL SCHOOL, 30 SECONDS, BUT THE WHOLE OF, OF NATIONAL CITY.

AND SO I SAY LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE.

OTHERWISE, I THINK IT'S ALL GREENING.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

THANK YOU MR. FARROW.

NEXT I WILL CALL CALVIN BARRIOS.

MY NAME IS, UH, CALVIN BARRIOS.

I SERVE AS THE DIRECTOR OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS FOR LAUNA LOCAL 89, THE LABOR'S INTERNATIONAL UNION OF NORTH AMERICA.

YOU SEE OUR MEMBERS SITTING BEHIND ME IN THE BLACK SHIRTS BACK THERE.

LAUNA LOCAL 89 IS PROUD TO SUPPORT USD CLEAN FUELS PROPOSED SAN DIEGO CLEAN FUEL FACILITY.

THIS PROJECT WILL TRANSFORM AN EXISTING RAIL SITE IN NATIONAL CITY INTO A CLEAN FUEL TRANSFER FACILITY STRENGTHENING BOTH OUR LOCAL INFRASTRUCTURE AND OUR ENVIRONMENTAL FUTURE.

THIS LOCATION IS THE PROPERLY SEW SITE FOR THIS TYPE OF FACILITY, AND IMPORTANTLY, THE ONLY VIABLE LOCATION ALONG THE RAIL LINE WHERE IT CAN BE DONE.

THE PROJECT IS BEING BUILT WITH SAFETY AS THE TOP PRIORITY WITH DIRECT FREEWAY ACCESS AND THE MAIN TRAFFIC LOADS ARE SCHEDULED DURING OFF PEAK HOURS, MINIMIZING THE IMPACTS ON OUR LOCAL ROADS AND NEIGHBORHOODS.

STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL AND THE PROJECT DEVELOPERS PROVIDING ADDITIONAL SUPPORT THAT THE CITY TO THE CITY THAT IS NOT COMMON FOR PROJECTS OF THIS TYPE, WHICH DEMONSTRATES THEIR COM, THEIR COMMITMENT TO THE COMMUNITY.

IN REGARDS TO THE WORKFORCE, OUR MEMBERS ARE HIGHLY SKILLED, WELL-TRAINED, AND READY TO DELIVER THE QUALITY CONSTRUCTION THIS PROJECT REQUIRES.

THIS MEANS GOOD PAYING LOCAL JOBS, WHILE ALSO CONTRIBUTING TO CLEANER FUELS AND CLEANER AIR FOR OUR LOCAL FAMILIES AND COMMUNITIES.

WITH NEARLY 200 LAUNA MEMBERS LIVING RIGHT HERE IN NATIONAL CITY, THIS PROJECT REPRESENTS A DIRECT INVESTMENT IN OUR NEIGHBORS AND OUR LOCAL ECONOMY.

WE ALSO APPRECIATE USD CLEANS FUELS COMMITMENT TO HIRING FROM THE LOCAL WORKFORCE 30 SECONDS BECAUSE LOCAL WORKERS BUILDING LOCAL PROJECTS IS EXACTLY THE KIND OF INVESTMENT OUR COMMUNITY DESERVES.

LAUNA LOCAL 89 IS PROUD OF THE ROLE OUR MEMBERS WOULD PLAY IN BRINGING MORE RENEWABLE FUELS TO NATIONAL CITY AND THE SURROUNDING REGION, REDUCING CALIFORNIA'S RELIANCE ON FOSSIL FUELS AND MOVING US TOWARDS A MORE SUSTAINABLE FUTURE.

OKAY, MR. JOSH, GOOD EVENING.

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MY NAME IS JOSH KRISA FOLEY.

I'M THE CHIEF COMMERCIAL OFFICER AT KINLEY CONSTRUCTION.

UH, WE'RE THE LEAD DESIGN BUILD CONTRACTOR FOR THE PROJECT, THE PROPOSED PROJECT HERE IN NASHVILLE CITY.

UH, I'M IN MY 25TH YEAR WITH THE COMPANY.

THE COMPANY'S 130 YEARS OLD, UH, NATIONWIDE INDUSTRIAL CONTRACTORS SPECIALIZING IN FUELS AND LIQUID HANDLING.

WE HAVE DIVISIONS IN AVIATION, RAILROAD, GOVERNMENT, AND ENERGY SECTORS.

AS I MENTIONED, WE SPECIALIZE IN FUEL AND CONSTRUCTION.

WE JUST COMPLETED THE PUMP PAD AND THE JET FUEL SYSTEM AT THE SAN DIEGO AIRPORT.

SOME PROJECTS AT LAX ORANGE COUNTY, AS WELL AS 10 OTHER INTERNATIONAL AIRPORTS.

WE'VE WORKED AT MIRAMAR, LAMAR, TRAVIS CAMP PENDLETON, AND SEVERAL MILITARY BASES AS WELL.

WE ALSO WORKED FOR THE CLASS OF RAILROADS, BNSF, UNION, PACIFIC AMTRAK, ET CETERA, FOR ALMOST 35 YEARS.

UH, WE'VE WORKED WITH US DEVELOPMENT SINCE 2008.

WE'VE COMPLETED THEIR FIRST TERMINAL WITH M AND ARLINGTON.

SINCE THEN, WE'VE HAD 10 FACILITIES TOGETHER FROM COLORADO, LOUISIANA, NORTH DAKOTA, SOUTH TEXAS, WEST COLTON, AND MOST RECENTLY A CLEAN FUELS TERMINAL IN SAN BERNARDINO.

WE USE OUR EXPERIENCE IN THE INDUSTRY TO BRING TOGETHER THE BEST TEAM OF ENGINEERS, CONSULTANTS, AND CONTRACTORS TO BUILD FACILITIES OF THE HIGHEST QUALITY MEETING AND EXCEEDING ALL OF THE INDUSTRY AND LOCAL STANDARDS.

SINCE OUR PROJECTS ARE ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, WE MAKE IT A POINT TO BRING THE LOCAL CONTRACT SUBCONTRACTORS AND SUPPLIERS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

ON THIS PROJECT, WE'VE ALREADY COMMITTED TO WORKING WITH THE LOCAL I UNION.

THIS WILL ENSURE WE'RE BRINGING THE BEST OF THE BEST OF, OF THE LOCAL SKILLED WORKFORCE.

WE'VE COMPLETED DOZENS OF PROJECTS LIKE THIS ONE OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS, THROUGHOUT 30 SECONDS THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES, AS WELL AS A COUPLE OF CLEAN FUELS TERMINALS IN EASTERN CANADA AND MEXICO.

I TELL YOU ALL THIS, NOT TO BRAG ON KINLEY OR TOOT THEIR OWN HORN, BUT TRY TO GIVE YOU A LEVEL OF COMFORT AND CONFIDENCE THAT THE RIGHT TEAMS ARE INVOLVED IN NATIONAL CITY ONES WITH LOTS OF EXPERIENCE, ONES THAT KNOW HOW TO GET IT BUILT SAFELY, DESIGNED TO OPERATE SAFELY AND IN HARMONY WITH THE COMMUNITY IN MIND, REGARDLESS OF LOCATION.

NEXT I WOULD CALL NADIA KING KEEN.

MY NAME IS NADIA QUIN AYUB, AND MY PRONOUNS ARE SHE HER AYA, AND I AM THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF RAINBOW SPACES.

WE WORK WITH THE YOUTH HERE IN NATIONAL CITY AND ACROSS SOUTH COUNTY.

I AM HERE JUST TO POINT OUT AND SUPPORT THE MEMBERS OF NATIONAL CITY AND TO STATE THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF GENTLEMEN IN HERE IN SUITS THAT MAKE OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND A YEAR THAT WANT YOU TO TRUST THEM.

THEY WANT YOU TO TRUST THEM THAT THEY WILL NOT POISON THIS COMMUNITY TO TRUST THEM, THAT THEY WILL KEEP OUR CHILDREN'S BEST INTERESTS AT HEART.

BUT WHY SHOULD WE TRUST THEM WHEN THEY BENEFIT FROM US? AND WE DON'T.

IF THIS IS SUCH A SOUGHT AFTER PROJECT, WHY IS IT NOT BEING PROPOSED IN LA JOLLA? WHY IS IT NOT BEING PROPOSED IN CARLSBAD? WHY IS IT NOT BEING PROPOSED IN NORTH COUNTY? BECAUSE SO MANY TIMES WE ARE TOLD THAT WE DON'T MATTER, THAT OUR COMMUNITIES DON'T MATTER, AND THAT IS NOT OKAY.

IT'S SAD THAT THERE ARE OWN PEOPLE THAT ARE SUPPORTING THIS, BUT THERE ARE MORE PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT ARE SAYING, NO, WE'VE HAD ENOUGH.

A YEAR IN SO-CALLED ECONOMIC BENEFIT, BUT THIS AMOUNT NEVER INCREASES WITH INFLATION NEVER GROWS WITH TIME.

THANK YOU MADAM.

UH, THE NEXT SPEAKER IS GIN NATION, FOLLOWED BY ALICIA SANCHEZ AND JASMINE AYERS.

ALICIA AND JASMINE, YOU COULD COME UP AND STAND IN LINE PLEASE, MS. NATION.

MY NAME IS JEN NATION.

I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF OLIVE WOOD GARDENS AND LEARNING CENTER, UH, AND HERE LOCATED IN NATIONAL CITY FOR 15 YEARS, OLIVE WOOD GARDENS HAS WORKED SIDE BY SIDE WITH NATIONAL CITY FAMILIES, STUDENTS, AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO BUILD A HEALTHY, THRIVING COMMUNITY.

EVERY DAY WE SEE THE IMPACTS OF ENVIRONMENTAL INJUSTICE ON OUR NEIGHBORS.

CHILDREN MISSING SCHOOL BECAUSE OF ASTHMA.

PARENTS WORRIED ABOUT WHETHER THEIR HAIR, THEIR AIR IS SAFE FOR THEIR KIDS TO PLAY OUTSIDE.

AND ELDERS STRUGGLING WITH CHRONIC RESPIRATORY ILLNESS.

NATIONAL CITY ALREADY BREATHES MORE DIESEL POPULATION THAN POLLUTION THAN 90% OF COMMUNITIES IN CALIFORNIA.

ADDING THIS FUEL TRANSFER STATION WILL ONLY WORSEN THE HEALTH BURDENS WE ALREADY CARRY.

OUR RESIDENTS DESERVE BETTER.

UM, THIS PROPOSED SITE RIGHT NOW WE'RE SAYING 72 TRUCKS A DAY.

IS THAT ALWAYS OR WILL THAT INCREASE OVER TIME AS THE NEED INCREASES? I THINK THAT'S A VERY MINIMAL NUMBER TO START WITH.

UM, THIS PROPOSED AGREEMENT ALSO OFFERS THE CITY $200,000

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MEANWHILE, THE COMPANY WILL CONTINUE TO PROFIT AND WHILE IT IS SOUNDS LIKE A NICE BENEFIT, THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO GUARANTEE THAT THAT MONEY IS GONNA BE BACK.

GOING BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY, I HEARD HIM MENTION FIXING THE ROADS, BUT THAT'S NOT AIR PUR FIRES AND OTHER THINGS THAT WERE MENTIONED EARLIER.

UM, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT'S A FAIR OR FORWARD THINKING DEAL.

UM, IN TIME TO TIME AGAIN, CITY LEADERS HA IN NATIONAL CITY HAVE SAID THAT NATIONAL CITY IS OVERLOOKED FOR TRANSFORMATIVE PROJECTS LIKE THE GAY LORD RESORT IN CHULA VISTA.

YET INSTEAD OF PURSUING OPPORTUNITIES THAT BRING VISITORS 30 SECONDS JOBS AND PRIDE TO OUR CITY, WE ARE HANDED PROJECTS THAT POLLUTE OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND PUT OUR RESIDENTS AT RISK.

THIS IS NOT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

THIS IS A LACK OF VISION.

THE PEOPLE IN NATIONAL CITY HAVE SPOKEN AGAIN AND AGAIN.

WE WANT CLEAR IT, CLEAN AIR, HEALTHY NEIGHBORHOODS, AND THE SAME QUALITY OF LIFE ENJOYED IN OTHER COMMUNITIES IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY, I THINK AT THE TIME NOW IS TO LISTEN.

THANKS.

THANK YOU, MADAM.

NEXT IS ALICIA SANCHEZ, FOLLOWED BY JASMINE AYERS, AND AFTER THAT WILL BE MARGARITA MORENO.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

I'LL BE, UH, DOING HER COMMENT IN ENGLISH.

THANK YOU, MS. GOOD AFTERNOON.

SO YOU, YOU WILL BE TRANSLATING FOR HER? YES, SIR.

MY NAME IS ALICIA SANCHEZ.

I AM A RESIDENT NATIONAL CITY AND I'M ARA OF EHC AND A MEMBER OF THE AB 6 1 1 7 COMMITTEE.

I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF MY FAMILY AND MY COMMUNITY TO ASK YOU TO DENY THE USDG FUELS PROPOSED PROJECT.

AS A MEMBER OF AB 6 1 7.

WE HAVE BEEN WORKING FOR OVER FIVE YEARS TO ELECTRIFY HEAVY DUTY TRUCKS AND WE KNOW THAT THIS PROJECT WILL BRING IN ADDITIONAL 200 DIESEL TRUCKS THAT WILL OPERATE 24 7 24 HOURS A DAY, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.

AND THIS WILL BRING AN ADDITIONAL CONTAMINATION TO OUR COMMUNITY.

I HAVE ALSO BEEN WORKING WITH EHC ON AMORTIZATION TO RELOCATE POLLUTING BUSINESSES THAT CONTAMINATE THE RESIDENTS OF NATIONAL CITY.

WE DO NOT WANT THIS PROJECT BECAUSE IT WILL AFFECT US GREATLY.

SINCE ITS PROPOSED SITE IS ONLY HALF A MILE AWAY FROM KIMBO ELEMENTARY, SAN ANTONIO PADUA CHURCH AND THE PROXIMITY TO THE RESIDENTS OF OLD TOWN.

WE DO NOT WANT MORE CONTAMINATION HERE IN NATIONAL CITY BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THERE IS HIGH RATES OF ASTHMA AND UPPER RESPIRATORY PROBLEMS, ESPECIALLY AMONG CHILDREN.

AGAIN, I'M HERE TO ASK YOU TO PLEASE DENY THE PERMIT TO USDG FUELS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER.

NEXT IS ALICIA SANCHEZ.

OH, OKAY.

THANK, I'M SORRY.

THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.

UH, THEN UP NEXT IS JASMINE AYERS.

YES, SIR.

YOU JASMINE, AND AFTER JASMINE WILL BE MARGARITA MORENO.

AND AFTER THAT, MARTA FLORES, PLEASE PROCEED.

AND TRAFFIC DELAYS AND CONGESTION.

MY NAME IS JASMINE ERS AND I'M THE COMMUNITY PLANNING, COMMUNITY PLANNING AND LIAISON'S OFFICER FOR NAVAL BASE SAN DIEGO.

I'M HERE TODAY TO ADDRESS ITEM THREE ON THE AGENDA CONSIDERATION OF THE FINAL EIR AND PROJECT IMPACTS OF THE PROPOSED FUEL TRANSFER FACILITY, SPECIFICALLY THE PROPOSED RAIL OPERATIONS AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW RAIL TRACK ACROSS CIVIC CENTER DRIVE AND NEAR HARBOR DRIVE.

WHILE THE ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENTATION DETAILS IMPACTS FROM THE TRUCK TRAFFIC AND OPERATIONS BETWEEN 6:00 PM AND 6:00 AM 6:00 AM IT LACKS ADEQUATE INFORMATION ABOUT THE IMPACT OF RAIL OPERATIONS ON ACCESS TO NAVAL BASE SAN DIEGO AS THE LARGEST BASE IN THE PACIFIC NAVAL BAY.

SAN DIEGO'S ACCESSED BY 55,000 MILITARY PERSONNEL, CIVILIANS AND CONTRACTORS, MOST OF WHOM MUST CROSS HARBOR DRIVE AND THUS THE RAIL LINES IN ORDER TO REACH THE OPERATIONAL WET SIDE OF THE BASE RAIL OPERATIONS THAT BLOCK ACCESS TO THE BASE, ESPECIALLY DURING PEAK, INBOUND AND OUTBOUND TIMES, TRANSLATE DIRECTLY TO IDLING VEHICLES, INCREASE CARBON EMISSIONS

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UH, THIS ULTIMATELY IMPACTS THE READINESS OF OUR WORKFORCE.

WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT APPLICANT PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ABOUT THE PROPOSED RAIL OPERATIONS, INCLUDING ANTICIPATED HOURS OF OPERATIONS AND FREQUENCY OF THE RAIL MOVEMENTS.

GIVEN THE SIGNIFICANT POTENTIAL IMPACT ON OUR WORKFORCE AS WELL AS THE LARGER COMMUNITY, NAVAL BAY, SAN DIEGO WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE IN COLLABORATIVE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE APPLICANT AND TO IDENTIFY 30 SECONDS ANY NEGATIVE IMPACTS ON BEHALF OF NAVAL BAY SAN DIEGO, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.

OKAY, NEXT UP IS MARGARITA MORENO, FOLLOWED BY MARTA FLORES AND THEN TED GA.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS MARGARITA MORENO.

I AM RESIDENT OF NACI AND PROMOTER WITH ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH COALITION AND MEMBER OF THE AB SIX 17 COMMITTEE.

I AM AGAINST USDG FUEL BECAUSE, BECAUSE THEY ARE ASKING A PERMIT TO BUILD A FUEL STRAT STATION HERE, NATIONAL CITY, AND THIS WOULD ADD ADDITIONAL CONTAMINATION, NOISE AND TRAFFIC TO OUR STREET.

WE HAVE A NO CONTAMINATION IN OUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE HE HAVE INDUSTRY AND OUTDOOR REPAIR PATROL VERY CLOSE TO RESIDENCE HOMES.

THIS TRANSFER FULL BUSINESS IS A DANGER BECAUSE THERE COULD BE ACCIDENTS OR POSSIBLE FIRES IN OUR COMMUNITY.

MEMBERS ARE ALREADY SUFFER A LOT FROM PULMONARY DISEASE AND ALERT THAT COULD AFFECT PUBLIC HEALTH.

I HAVE A SON WITH ASTHMA AND I CAN SEE HOW MUCH THEY STRUGGLE TO BREATHE.

FOR THOSE I AM ASKING YOU SAY NO TO USE USDG FUEL.

OUR HEALTH IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN MONEY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

MARTHA FLORES, UH, MARTA WILL BE FOLLOWED BY MR. TED OKE, WHO WILL BE FOLLOWED BY MR. PAUL W. GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS MARTA FLORES AND I JUST, I AM HERE IN OPPOSITION OF USDG.

LY OPPOSED BECAUSE LET'S, AS A CITY, LET'S HAVE SOME PRIDE, LET'S HAVE SOME VISION.

LET'S MAKE NATIONAL CITY THE BEST CITY IT CAN BE AND NOT HAVING TO CONTINUE TO HAVE AIR POLLUTION PENETRATING THE LUNGS OF WOMEN THAT ARE PREGNANT AND THEIR FETUS AND THEIR BABIES ARE CHILDREN THAT CAN'T GO OUT AND PLAY AND BREATHE BECAUSE OF THIS VICIOUS CYCLE THAT WE KEEP PROMOTING OF AIR CONTAMINATION.

WE CAN DO SOMETHING.

YOU HAVE A MORAL AND A PUBLIC RESPONSIBILITY TO TAKE THIS AND MAKE A HEALTH DECISION FOR NATIONAL CITY.

WE ALSO CANNOT BE PAID OFF.

I REFUSE TO BELIEVE THAT 200,000 IS ENOUGH TO HAVE OUR CHILDREN CONTINUE TO SUFFER.

AND THEN WITH THIS ADMINISTRATION CUTTING HEALTHCARE, WHERE ARE THE CHILDREN GOING TO HAVE ACCESS? WHERE ARE THE SENIORS? WHERE ARE THE PREGNANT WOMEN? SO I AM TOTALLY OPPOSED, DO THE TAKE THE MORAL HIGH ROAD AND DEFEND OUR PEOPLE.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

OKAY, TED CHU.

UH, MR. GUTSCH, ARE YOU IN OPPOSITION TO THE PROJECT? IN FAVOR YOU'LL SEE? YEAH.

I'M A RESIDENT IN OPPOSITION.

I'M A RESIDENT OF N OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD FOR 39 YEARS AND MARRIED INTO A FAMILY WITH 100 YEARS.

I'M A LIFELONG UNIONIST WITH THREE UNIONS IN MY BACKGROUND AND AN OFFICER AS WELL.

STAFF HAS SPENT MANY HOURS ON THIS PROJECT AND SO HAVE WE.

TODAY.

YOU'LL HEAR TESTIMONY ON BOTH SIDES OF A VERY CONTENTIOUS ISSUE FACING THE RESIDENCE.

IT IS CLEAR THAT THERE IS NO DESIRE TO HAVE A FUEL TRANSFER STATION IN NATIONAL CITY.

THE FACTS ARE CLEAR.

THE RESIDENTS DO NOT THINK CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL WILL BE ENFORCED.

THE RESIDENTS DO NOT FEEL THEY WILL BE PROTECTED FROM NOISE, FUMES, TRAIN AND DIESEL EMISSIONS AND POSSIBLE FIERY EVENTS REGARDLESS OF CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.

THERE IS A POWERFUL LANDOWNER INVOLVED.

I LIKEN THE RAILROADS TO THE, IN THE US TO INTERNET AND CORTEZ IN MEXICO.

BNSF RAILROAD IS OWNED BY BILLIONAIRE WARREN BUFFETT'S FIRM AND THEY WANT TO MAKE MONEY AT OUR EXPENSE.

NATIONAL CITY HAS DEALT WITH THE NEGATIVE EFFECTS OF THE RAILROAD AND SIMILAR INDUSTRIES FOR A VERY LONG TIME.

$200,000 WILL

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NOT CHANGE THIS.

THIS IS THE SAME STORY THAT IS FACING THE PEOPLE IN LA COUNTY WHO LIVE NEAR LANDFILLS THAT ARE ACCEPTING ASH AND FIRE DEBRIS FROM THE PALISADES FIRES.

THIS IS THE SAME STORY AS NATIVE AMERICAN PEOPLES WHO HAVE FOUGHT PIPELINES RUNNING THROUGH THEIR HOMELANDS.

THIS IS THE SAME STORY AS THE PEOPLE IN BARRIO LOGAN WHO FIGHT AGAINST BIOFUELS IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE WILL NOT MAKE PROGRESS AS A COMMUNITY IF WE HAVE LEADERS WHO MAKE DEALS AND ACCEPT PROJECTS SECONDS LIKE WE HAVE SUFFERED WITH FOR THE LAST 100 YEARS.

REJECT THE STAFF'S FINDINGS FOR APPROVAL OF THIS PROJECT AND DEMAND A CLEANER FUTURE IN NATIONAL CITY.

MR. PAUL W OWOW, UH, I CAN'T READ HIS WRITING.

I'LL PUT IT ASIDE IN CASE HE COMES BACK.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

RITA DE LA FUENTE, FOLLOWED BY ELISE BRAND AND MAYA MARK.

I'M RITA DE LA FUENTE AND I SERVE AS BOARD CHAIR FOR OLIVE WOOD GARDENS AND LEARNING CENTER.

AS YOU KNOW, OLIVE WOOD WORKS EVERY DAY WITH CHILDREN AND FAMILIES TO BUILD HEALTHIER FUTURES.

PART OF OUR MISSION IS ALSO COLLECTIVE ADVOCACY, STANDING UP WHEN PROJECTS MAY PUT THE COMMUNITY'S HEALTH AT RISK.

OUR CONCERN WITH THE PROPOSED FUEL TRANSFER STATION IS THAT IT WOULD BRING MORE POLLUTION INTO A COMMUNITY THAT ALREADY SUFFERS FROM SOME OF THE WORST AIR IN CALIFORNIA.

THE FACILITY WOULD WORSEN HEALTH BURDENS AND THE FUEL ITSELF IS DESTINED FOR OTHER COMMUNITIES.

WHILE THE POLLUTION AND IMPACTS ARE LEFT HERE, WE URGE YOU TO PLEASE REJECT THIS PROJECT AND INSTEAD CHOOSE A FUTURE WHERE FAMILIES BREATHE EASIER AND THRIVE.

ELISE BRAND FOLLOWED BY MAYA MARKLEY AND THEN, UH, BRADLEY BANG.

GREAT.

UH, HELLO.

MY NAME IS ELISE BRIAN AND I'VE BEEN WORKING IN NATIONAL CITY FOR THE LAST SEVEN YEARS AND PLAN TO BE A COMMUNITY MEMBER FOR MUCH LONGER.

I'M IN OPPOSITION OF THIS PROPOSED USEG FUELS PROJECT AND I URGE THE PLANNING COMMISSION COMMISSION TO LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY WHEN WE SAY WE DO NOT WANT THIS POLLUTING BUSINESS IN NATIONAL CITY.

THE CITY KEEPS POINTING TO THE AM AMORTIZATION PROGRAM, THE HEALTH ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE PLAN, BUT IS ACUTELY AWARE OF THE EN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT OF THE PROJECT, AS POINTED OUT, AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSIDERATIONS AND ANALYSIS OF NONCONFORMING USES IN THE PRESENTATION OF THE EIR.

WHY WOULD THE COMMISSION RECOMMEND THIS PROJECT? IF IT IS IN DIRECT OPPOSITION TO THE AMORTIZATION AND HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE PLANS, THIS PROJECT WILL IMPACT THE AIR QUALITY, WHICH HAS ALREADY RANKS THE HIGHEST PERCENTILE IN THE STATE, WHICH IS CRAZY TO ME.

IT'S ONLY A HALF A MILE FROM KIMBALL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND IS VERY CLOSE TO RESIDENTIAL AND COMMUNITY GATHERING SPACES, WHICH YOU'VE HEARD ALREADY.

THIS PROJECT IS A SHORTSIGHTED MONEY GRAB AND THE COMMUNITY DOES NOT WANT ANOTHER POLLUTING BUSINESS.

THE JOB CREATION RHETORIC IS AN OVER IS OVERINFLATED.

USDJ FUELS HAS STATED THEMSELVES THAT ONLY 22 JOBS WILL BE CREATED FROM THIS PROJECT THAT WILL NEGATIVELY IMPACT THOUSANDS OF RESIDENTS.

THE USDG FUELS REPRESENTATIVE ASSURES THAT THIS PROJECT IS RISK IS SAFE AND ASKS WHO YOU TRUST.

I URGE YOU TO TRUST YOUR COMMUNITY WHEN WE SAY NO AND CONSIDER WHY ALL THESE FOLKS ARE OPPOSED TO THIS HIGH RISK PROJECT.

SPANISH AND ENGLISH ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IN NATIONAL CITY.

OOPS.

HELLO? ARE WE STARTING? OKAY.

UM, THIS IS YOUR MAYA.

I'M MAYA, MARK MAYA, FOLLOWED BY, UH, BRADLEY BANG, FOLLOWED BY ED NIETO.

I'M AN ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATOR AND I WORK AT KIMBALL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IN THEIR GARDEN.

UH, YOUR WEBSITE SAYS THAT THE COMMISSION RENDERS DETERMINATIONS AND MAKES RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON A VARIETY OF LAND USE MATTERS, INCLUDING CHANGES TO THE CITY'S GENERAL PLAN, SPECIFIC PLANS AND LAND USE CODE.

DID IT SAY ANYWHERE IN THERE ANYTHING ABOUT BEING APPOINTED TO BE THE AUTHORITY ON THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS OF NATIONAL CITY RESIDENTS? NO.

BY APPROVING THIS FUEL STATION TO BE BUILT IN THIS LOCATION, YOU WOULD BE PUTTING THOUSANDS OF REAL PEOPLE'S HEALTH AT RISK, ESPECIALLY THE TEACHERS AND OVER 300 SMALL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL CHILDREN AT KIMBALL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL THAT PLAY OUTSIDE AND LEARN IN THEIR OUTDOOR GARDEN EVERY SINGLE DAY.

THERE'S ALSO THE FACT THAT KIMBALL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IS THE ONLY REMAINING DUAL LANGUAGE

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BY APPROVING OF AND RECOMMENDING THIS STATION, IT WOULD BE ACTIVELY POLLUTING THE AIR THAT THESE PEOPLE BREATHE, AND THAT IS THE DEFINITION OF ENVIRONMENTAL RACISM.

THIS COMMUNITY HAS ALREADY BEEN AFFECTED BY OUR HUMAN DRIVEN CLIMATE CRISIS.

THE WHOLE BOTTOM HALF OF KIMBALL ELEMENTARY WAS UNDERWATER WITH THE LARGE SCALE FLOODING THAT TOOK PLACE LAST YEAR IN JANUARY.

AND THE CLASSROOMS THAT WERE IMPACTED BY THAT FLOODING ALONG WITH THE ENTIRE LOWER PLAYGROUND THAT YOUNGER STUDENTS UTILIZED WERE INACCESSIBLE FOR THE ENTIRETY OF 2024 WHILE REPAIRS AND REBUILDS WERE GOING ON.

NEEDLESS TO SAY THAT THIS COMMUNITY IS ALREADY USED TO THEIR HEALTH AND WELLNESS BEING AN AFTERTHOUGHT.

SO IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE SUPPORTING ENVIRONMENTAL RACISM AND THE DECLINING LONG-TERM 30 SECONDS HEALTH OF CHILDREN IN OUR COMMUNITY, THEN GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THIS FUELING STATION.

UM, AND ALSO TO USDG.

HOW DARE YOU WITH YOUR EVIDENCE OVER PERCEPTION POINT.

THE EVIDENCE YOU'RE FORGETTING ABOUT IS THAT THERE WILL BE UP TO 72 DIESEL POLLUTING TRUCKS RUNNING THROUGH THIS COMMUNITY EVERY DAY.

YOU'RE LYING BY SAYING THAT THEY WOULDN'T HAVE ANY SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE HEALTH OF OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

IT MAY NOT BE IMMEDIATE, BUT THERE WILL BE LONG-TERM HEALTH CON CONDITIONS THAT THIS FUEL STATION CAUSES AND CONTRIBUTES TO.

AND SHAME ON YOU FOR SKEWING THE TRUTH FOR YOUR MONETARY BENEFIT.

TIME, TIME, SAY NO.

BRADLEY BANG.

UH, FOLLOWED BY ED NIETO TO BE FOLLOWED BY ANGELICA SORIANO.

MR. BANG, ARE YOU ON OPPOSITION TO THIS PROJECT? YES.

MY NAME IS BRADLEY BANG AND I'M A RESIDENT OF NATIONAL CITY.

THE WEST SIDE OF NATIONAL CITY HAS BEEN SUFFERING FROM UNACCEPTABLE LEVELS OF POLLUTION FOR MANY YEARS.

NEVERTHELESS, GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS HAVE CONTINUED TO APPROVE VARIOUS COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL OPERATIONS IN OUR, IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT INCREASE THE POLLUTION THAT RESIDENTS ARE SUBJECTED TO.

WE KNOW THAT THE SMALL PARTICLE DIESEL POLLUTION IS ONE OF THE MOST DANGEROUS COMPONENTS OF THIS POLLUTION CONTRIBUTING TO HIGH LEVELS OF ASTHMA AND CANCER.

THE USDG FUEL DEPOT IS AN AWFUL PROJECT FOR OUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE IT WILL INCREASE DIESEL POLLUTION BY A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT.

IT'D BE STUPID FOR THE CITY TO APPROVE THIS PROJECT WHEN WE CAN'T EVEN TRUST OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO HONOR THE CLEAN AIR PROGRAMS THAT THEY AGREED TO OR PROVIDE SUFFICIENT HEALTHCARE FOR OUR RESIDENTS WHO BECOME SICK FROM THE POLLUTION.

WHAT IS THE POINT OF MONITORING THE POLLUTION IN OUR COMMUNITY IF WE DON'T ACT ON THE EVIDENCE THAT WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH? PLEASE VOTE NO ON THIS PROJECT.

YOU ARE IN OPPOSITION TO THE PROJECT, CORRECT? THANK YOU, SIR.

I'M ED NIETO.

I'M A LONG-TERM NATIONAL CITY RESIDENT.

UH, THE OUTCOME IS CLEAR.

THIS IS A PROJECT THAT WILL NOT REDUCE, UH, TRUCK POLLUTION.

IT WILL INCREASE IT.

MORE TRUCKS MEAN MORE TRAFFIC, MORE EXHAUST, MORE POLLUTION, ALL WITHIN HALF A MILE.

THE KIMBALL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL DISTRICT, DON'T LET THIS GUY KID YOU ROUND.

OUR KIDS WILL BREATHE IT.

OUR FAMILIES WILL LIVE IN IT.

CITIZENS ARE STANDING UP BECAUSE, BECAUSE IT, THIS IS ABOUT HEALTH.

THE ONLY ONES WHO PROFITS ARE THE UNIONS, THE CONTRACTORS AND THE, AND THEIR ADVOCATES.

IN RETURN.

A $200,000 THOUSAND GESTURE IS THAT THE PRICE THAT OUR CHILDRENS PAY FOR THEIR LUNGS SHOVE THE $200,000 SHOVE THEIR JOBS.

THE THE REPORT IS WEAK.

IT CALLS FOR HARM.

NOT SIGNIFICANT.

YOU GOTTA ASK MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT SEQUENCE, UH, EVENT.

THIS IS A CONSULTANT'S REVIEW.

IT'S NOT A HEALTH, IT'S NOT A HEALTH, A HEALTH STUDY.

WE NEED MORE.

HE SAYS, TRUST ME, YOU CAN'T KEEP CARRYING THE WEIGHT AND TRUSTING THIS GUY.

I URGE YOU.

REJECT THE PROJECT.

WHEN THE RISK ALL FALL IN CHILDREN, THE ONLY RESPONSIBLE VOTE IS CAUTION AND VOTE.

NO THANK YOU, SIR.

ANGELICA SORIANO, UH, BEFORE YOU SPEAK, UM, MADAM SECRETARY, COULD WE HAVE THE AC TURNED UP IN THIS ROOM SOMEHOW? , THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

ARE ARE YOU COLD? I OKAY.

I APOLOGIZE.

I AM NO HELP.

UH, ANGELICA SORIANO, FOLLOWED BY MAGGIE MORALES, FOLLOWED BY MARGARITA GARCIA, PLEASE.

HELLO.

TO BREATHING PROBLEMS LIKE ASTHMA.

MY NAME IS ANGELICA SORIANO AND I LIVE IN CHULA VISTA.

I'M CURRENTLY A VOLUNTEER WITH SAN DIEGO THREE 50, A CLIMATE ACTION GROUP FIGHTING FOR ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE ALL THROUGHOUT SAN DIEGO.

I STRONGLY OPPOSE BUILDING THE USD CLEAN FUELS BIODIESEL TRANSFER STATION HERE IN NATIONAL CITY.

DIESEL EMISSIONS ARE KNOWN TO CAUSE CANCER DAMAGED LUNGS AND CONTRIBUTE

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WEST NATIONAL CITY ALREADY BREATHES MORE THAN DE MORE DIESEL POLLUTION THAN 90% OF COMMUNITIES HERE IN CALIFORNIA.

I GREW UP HERE IN SOUTH BAY AND WANT TO CONTINUE LIVING HERE FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.

AGAIN, I STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS PROJECT FOR MY FUTURE, MY HEALTH AND THE HEALTH OF NATIONAL CITY RESIDENTS.

LET'S INVEST IN A CLEANER FUTURE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.

NEXT IS MAGGIE MORALES, FOLLOWED BY MARGARITA GARCIA, FOLLOWED BY ISADORA LOPEZ.

MY NAME IS MAGGIE MORALES.

I DON'T, I'M AN ACTU I'M NOT ACTUALLY A U ACTUAL VISTA.

I'M TWO VISTA RESIDENCE, BUT MY MOM LIVES HERE AND I SEE OF HER 'CAUSE IT'S A LOT.

I SPEND A LOT OF TIME HERE AND SHE'S BEEN LIVING HERE FOR OVER 25 YEARS.

UM, I REALLY THINK THE USG FEELS IS NOT A GOOD IDEA TO OPEN UP AND THE TRANSFER STATION.

IT DOES NOT BENEFIT NATIONAL CITY IN ANY WAY OR FORM.

IT WILL ONLY CONTRIBUTE TO MORE POLLUTION TO THE WEST SIDE OF NATIONAL CITY WITH SO MANY DIESEL TRUCKS COMING INTO TOWN TO DISTRIBUTE THE FUEL TRAFFIC, CONGESTION AND CANCER CAUSING TOXINS TO CHILDREN, TO YOUNG CHILDREN, SENIORS IN GENERAL, TO EVERYONE.

IT IS WAY TOO CLOSE TO KIM ELEMENTARY AND ALSO A LOT OF NOISE GOING THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AT NIGHT.

AND DANGER TO THE COMMUNITY, MEANING THE WAY OF A DISASTER OR SPILL WORSE, GOD FORBID, AN EXPLOSION.

PLEASE CONSIDER OUR CONCERNS NOT TO APPROVE THIS COMPANY TO ESTABLISH THEIR TRANSFER STATION HERE IN NATIONAL CITY.

LET'S KEEP IMPROVING THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

LIKE HAVE YOU ALL THE LIGHTS, THE STREETS.

SO IT'S BEEN SO MUCH BETTER NOW.

I FEEL SAFER, BUT PLEASE DO NOT DO THIS AND JUST KEEP DOING THINGS BETTER.

LIKE THE PEPPER PARK EXPANSION AT THE BAY, AT THE BAYFRONT AND OTHER HEALTHIER, FRIENDLY, FRIENDLY PROJECTS FOR THE WEST SIDE OF NATIONAL CITY.

THIS PROJECT WOULD ONLY BE TWO STEPS BACK AND STORY GOING FORWARD.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME IN LISTENING TO OUR CONCERNED VOICES.

MARGARITA GARCIA, PLEASE COME FORWARD FOLLOWED BY ISADORA LOPEZ.

FOLLOWED BY UH, FRIDA VERA.

UH, GIVE THE PERMISSION TO USDG FIELDS BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN WORKING HARD, UH, TO CLEAN OUR COMMUNITY FROM TOXIC POLLUTION.

NOW, UH, PLEASE, YOU'RE GOING TO TRANSLATE FOR HER? YES SIR.

THANK YOU MS. GARCIA.

UH, NOW THE YOUNG LADY WILL TRANSLATE FOR HER.

OKAY, COOL.

GOT IT.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS MARGARITA GARCIA.

I'M A RESIDENT OF THE OLD TOWN NATIONAL CITY.

TODAY I AM HERE TO ASK YOU TO NOT, UH,

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AND NOW YOU WANNA BRING ANOTHER WORSE, UH, BUSINESS AND THAT'S JUST NOT FAIR.

WE ARE A COMMUNITY OF LOW IN, WE'RE A LOW INCOME COMMUNITY, AND THAT IS WHY YOU ARE TRYING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF US.

BUT EVEN THEN, WE'RE HERE EXERCISING OUR RIGHT TO DEMAND FOR A KILLING COMMUNITY FREE OF TOXINS.

UH, FOR THIS REASON, I AM ASKING YOU TO NOT APPROVE THIS PROJECT, UH, TO BE, TO BE ALLOWED TO ENTER MY COMMUNITY.

UH, PUT YOURSELF IN OUR SHOES.

IF YOU WERE HERE AND IF YOU LIVED HERE AND YOU WERE EXPOSED TO ALL OF THESE TRUCKS, UH, PLEASE DO NOT GIVE THE PERMISSION TO USDG FIELDS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PETITION.

AND THEN SHE ADDED, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, THE REASON WHY SOME OF YOU ARE MAYBE UP IN, IN THE DIOCESE IS, IS BECAUSE OF NATIONAL CITY RESIDENTS AND FOR THEIR SUPPORT.

UH, THEY DO, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU JOIN POSITIONS LIKE THIS, UH, THERE ARE PROMISES AND THEN THERE'S THINGS THAT YOU KNOW, THAT YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU'RE GONNA, UM, ADVOCATE FOR IN OUR COMMUNITY.

UH, AND SHE JUST WANTS TO REMIND YOU THAT, YOU KNOW, IF THIS ISN'T AN ISSUE ABOUT MONEY, THESE RESIDENTS PAY THEIR TAXES.

SO THEY, THEY ARE HERE TO, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S A MONEY THING, THAT'S, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TAXES.

UH, BUT AGAIN, JUST TO REMIND YOU ALL THAT, UH, TO SIDE WITH COMMUNITY AND TO, UH, DENY THIS PROJECT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.

GRACIA ISIDOR LOPEZ, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

FOLLOWED BY FRIDA VERA AND LOUIS SAINTS.

IS ISADORA LOPEZ AVAILABLE? SEEING NONE.

UH, FRIDA VER VERA, I'M READY.

GO AHEAD.

MY NAME IS FREDA VERA.

I'M A SENIOR AT BON VISTA HIGH SCHOOL.

I LIVED IN NATIONAL CITY WHEN I IMMIGRATED TO THE US FROM TIJUANA, MEXICO.

MY FAMILY STILL LIVES IN NATIONAL CITY AND I WENT TO GRANGER JUNIOR HIGH IN SEVENTH GRADE.

I STRONGLY OPPOSE A FUEL TRANSFER STATION ON WEST 18TH STREET.

NATIONAL CITY ALREADY BREATH THIS MORE DIESEL POLLUTION THAN 90% OF COMMUNITIES IN ALL CALIFORNIA.

CHILDREN THAT LIVE IN NATIONAL CITY ALREADY GO TO THE ER FOR ASTHMA MORE THAN THE COUNTY AVERAGE.

AND I'M SCARED THAT ADDING EVEN MORE DIESEL POLLUTION WILL MAKE IT EVEN HARDER FOR US TO SAY STAY HEALTHY.

IT IS VERY UN UNFAIR THAT THIS COMMUNITY, WHICH IS ALREADY DEALING WITH SO MUCH POLLUTION, WOULD HAVE TO CARRY THIS EXTRA BURDEN.

WE DESERVE TO GROW UP IN A PLACE WHERE WE CAN BREATHE CLEAN AIR AND NOT BE AFRAID OF GETTING SICK JUST FROM LIVING HERE.

WE SHOULD BE FOCUSING ON HELPING THESE PEOPLE BRING AS ACCESSIBLE HEALTHCARE, NOT CONTRIBUTING TO THE ASTHMA AND CANCER RISK PROBLEM.

AND AS A STUDENT, I WANT A FUTURE WHERE WE CAN BREATHE CLEAN AIR AND FEEL SAFE IN OUR SCHOOL AND NEIGHBORHOODS.

NO OTHER CITY THAT I KNOW WANTS THIS EITHER.

NEXT IS LUIS SANDS, FOLLOWED BY ASHLEY.

NO, LAST NAME.

JUST ASHLEY, FOLLOWED BY JACK MONGER.

GO AHEAD, SIR.

GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

MY NAME IS LUIS SES.

I'M HERE TO URGE YOU ALL TO VOTE WITH YOUR CONSCIENCE TONIGHT.

DO NOT SUCCUMB TO CORPORATE GREED.

THIS PROPOSAL FOR A FUEL TRANSPORTATION IS NOT A GOOD IDEA FOR MANY REASONS.

AS YOU MAY BE AWARE, A FEW YEARS BACK, A SIMILAR PROPOSED PROJECT WAS BROUGHT TO THIS CITY FOR A PROPANE, UH, TRANSFER STATION.

FOR MANY REASONS, THAT PROPOSAL WAS NOT APPROVED.

NOW WE HAVE A CORPORATION TRYING TO AGAIN, USE OUR CITY FOR THEIR CORPORATE GREED.

FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THIS CORPORATION WILL BE MAKING MULTIMILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON OUR CITY, AND THIS CITY WILL MAKE $200,000 OR $200,000 A YEAR MERE PEANUTS COMPARED TO WHAT THEY WILL POCKET.

NOT A GOOD DEAL FOR US.

ASK YOURSELVES, WHY DOES CHULA VISTA, THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO, NOT WANT THIS IN THEIR BACKYARD? SORRY.

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THERE ARE SEVERAL RISK, UH, HEALTH RISKS TO OUR CITIZENS WITH THIS OFF GASSING OF THE FUEL TRANSFERRING IN ADDITION TO THE LARGE NUMBER OF POLLUTANTS FROM ALL THESE TRUCKS ALL DAY LONG, EVERY DAY ON OUR STREETS.

THE FUNDING THAT WE WILL GET FROM THIS CORPORATION WILL NOT EVEN COVER THE WEAR AND TEAR OF OUR ROADS.

WHAT ABOUT THE ADDITIONAL RISK OF ACCIDENTS AND POSSIBLE FUEL SPILLS? IN ADDITION, I DON'T BELIEVE THE CITY FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS THE RESOURCES, TRAINING, OR EQUIPMENT TO HANDLE A LARGE 30 SECONDS FUEL SPILL.

I'M SORRY, I LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT HERE FOR, THERE ARE REASONS WHY THE LAST PROPOSAL DID NOT PASS.

I UNDERSTAND THAT PEOPLE NEED JOBS AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT THE, THE JOBS CREATED WILL BE MINIMAL.

BUT AT WHAT RISK, THESE WORKERS MAY NOT KNOW WHAT THE RISKS ARE THAT THEY ARE BEING EXPOSED TO.

THE NUMBER OF ASTHMA CASES HERE ARE ALREADY OVER THE TYPICAL NUMBER OF OTHER CITIES.

DO NOT MAKE THIS PART OF YOUR LEGACY.

DO NOT SELL OUT NATIONAL CITY.

IT WAS A BAD IDEA THE LAST TIME.

IT'S A BAD IDEA NOW.

THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.

OKAY, IS ASHLEY, UH, ASHLEY WILL BE FOLLOWED BY JACK MONGER TO BE FOLLOWED BY CARMEN GALA HIGH SCHOOL, CALIFORNIA.

30 SECONDS.

THANK YOU, MS. ASHLEY.

OKAY, NOW, UM, THERE WILL BE TRANSLATION BY THE LADY FROM THE ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH COALITION.

I WANT A FUTURE WHERE I DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT, UH, IF TOMORROW IS GOING TO COME, UH, ESPECIALLY OVER THE, THE CLIMATE CHANGES.

UH, EVERYONE.

MY NAME IS ASHLEY.

I'M A SENIOR BONITA VISTA HIGH SCHOOL.

UH, AND I ACTUALLY COME FROM MEXICO.

UH, FOR ALL OF MY LIFE I HAD TO LIVE WITH LITTLE HELP FROM OUR COMM FROM MY COMMUNITY, AND I HAD TO FIGHT FOR ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE.

UH, AND NOW THAT I LIVE HERE, UH, I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE DIFFERENT.

I THOUGHT THE GOVERNMENT AND THE STATE WOULD TAKE DIFFERENT DECISIONS.

SO TODAY I'M HERE TO RAISE MY VOICE, UH, ON BEHALF OF MY COMMUNITY.

THE COMPANY, USDG, UH, WANTS TO BUILD THIS FUEL TRANSFER STATION THAT'S GOING TO BE OPERATING 24 HOURS A DAY, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, BRINGING, UH, FUEL THROUGH, UH, UH, COMBUSTIBLE, UH, TOXIC, UH, FUEL.

UH, THEN THAT WOULD BE, UH, TRANSFERRED TO HEAVY DUTY TRUCKS.

UH, THIS MEANS DOZENS, UH, THAT WILL DOZEN OF HEAVY DUTY TRUCKS, UH, THAT ARE GOING TO BE CONTAMINATING OUR AIR EVERY SINGLE DAY.

PASSING BY OUR, OUR SCHOOLS, OUR HOMES, OUR PARK AND CHURCHES.

WE ALREADY BREATHED SOME OF THE WORST CONTAMINATION AND WE RANK WITHIN THE 90 PERCENTILE, UH, OF POOR AIR QUALITY IN CALIFORNIA.

UH, WE KNOW THAT THESE EMISSIONS CAUSE CANCER.

UH, THEY DAMAGE OUR LUNGS AND THEY MAKE ASTHMA WORSE.

AND THAT IT, IT AFFECTS, UH, KIDS, UH, IN OUR COMMUNITY.

UH, IN ADDITION, THESE TRAINS AND, UH, HEAVY DUTY TRUCKS, THEY DON'T ONLY POLLUTE, THEY ALSO PUT OUR IN RISK, UH, ALL OF OUR COMMUNITY.

THEY'RE DELIVERING TOXIC CHEMICALS, UH, AND FLAMMABLES.

UH, THIS, UH, THIS IS WHY WE ARE TRYING TO, WE WANNA SAY NO TO THIS PROJECT.

UH, WE ARE TRYING TO DEFEND OUR, OUR HEALTH, UH, THE SECURITY OF OUR, OF OUR COMMUNITY, AND THE FUTURE FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

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I WANNA BREATHE CLEAN AIR BREATHING.

CLEAN AIR IS NOT A PRIVILEGE.

IT'S A HUMAN RIGHT.

IT'S A BASIC HUMAN RIGHT.

UH, AND IT SHOULD BE, UH, DIGNIFIED, UH, FOR EVERYBODY.

THANK YOU FOR THE TRANSLATION.

UH, IS MR. JACK MONGER? MR. JACK MONGER? OKAY.

NEXT WILL BE CARMEN, UH, OLA, FOLLOWED BY ANGELICA GAS, FOLLOWED BY ANGELICA ESTRADA, PLEASE, CARMEN.

WE WILL NOW HAVE A TRANSLATION BY THE, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH COALITION.

UH, GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS, OR HER NAME IS CARMEN ULA.

UH, SHE IS HERE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS PROJECT.

UH, SHE MENTIONED THAT HER GRANDSON WAS ACTUALLY HOSPITALIZED LAST WEEK.

UH, HE HAD A SEVERE ASTHMA ATTACK.

UH, I GUESS HIS ASTHMA REALLY, YOU KNOW, UH, CLOSES UP HIS AIRWAYS.

UH, SO THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY SHE IS IN IN STRONG OPPOSITION FOR THIS, UH, PROJECT.

ANGELICA.

GUS, I'M NOT SURE I PRONOU.

UH, YES, FOLLOWED BY ANGELICA ESTRADA, FOLLOWED BY AMY CASTANEDA.

UM, AND I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

AND HOW CAN NATIONAL CITY FULFILL ITS CLIMATE ACTION PLAN AND ITS OBLIGATIONS UNDER THE COMMISSION? COMMUNITY EMISSIONS, UH, REDUCTION PLAN, WHILE APPROVING A PROJECT THAT INCREASES DIESEL TRUCK TRAFFIC AND EMISSIONS, THE SERP IDENTIFIES DIESEL PARTICULATE MATTER AS A CARCINOGEN OF ACUTE CONCERN.

THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN COMMITS TO LOWERING FOSSIL FUEL RELIANCE.

A NEW DIS, SORRY.

A NEW DIESEL FUEL TRANSFER STATION CONTRADICTS BOTH COMMITMENTS AND PUTS OUR COMMUNITY FURTHER BEHIND ON CLEAN AIR AND CLIMATE ACTION.

I URGE THE COMMISSION TO UPHOLD THESE PLANS AND REJECT THE PROJECT.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

ANGELICA ESTRADA, FOLLOWED BY AMY CASTANEDA TO BE FOLLOWED BY, UH, ROSA AALA.

HI.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, UM, HAVING ME HERE.

I'M ANGELICA ESTRADA.

UM, AND I WANNA SAY SHAME ON YOU GUYS AFTER HEARING ALL OF THE TESTIMONY, AND YOU STILL PROUDLY PUT THAT UP.

SHAME ON YOU.

SO, UM, LET'S SEE.

I HAVE A FIVE-YEAR-OLD SON NAMED MARCELO, AND A 1-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER NAMED MARIA.

AND WE PLAY AT KIMBALL PARK HERE A LOT.

SOME PEOPLE HERE TONIGHT SPOKE ABOUT A QUOTE UNQUOTE, E ECONOMIC BENEFIT AND JOBS.

WELL, THE HEALTH OF MY CHILDREN AND THE HEALTH OF ALL THE CHILDREN, ESPECIALLY AT KIMBALL ELEMENTARY, IS PRICELESS.

PRICELESS.

USDG IS NOT HERE BECAUSE THEY WANNA BENEFIT NATIONAL CITY'S CLEAN AIR OR CALIFORNIA'S CLEAN AIR.

THEIR TEXAS COMPANY HERE TO MAKE MILLIONS OFF OF OUR CHILDREN, OFF OF OUR LUNGS.

PLEASE DO NOT ALLOW THEM TO MAKE MILLIONS OFF OF OUR BABY'S LUNGS AND HEALTH.

WE DESERVE CLEAN AIR.

THE AIR THAT WE BREATHE AND YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW WE FEEL.

ANGELICA ESTRADA? YES, THAT WAS HER.

THIS IS MY, UH, TESTIMONY.

Y'ALL NOT TRANSLATED.

UM, GOOD AFTERNOON PLANNING COMMISSIONERS AND CITY STAFF.

MY NAME IS AMY CASTANERA.

I AM THE ASSOCIATE POLICY DIRECTOR WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH COALITION.

BEFORE I GO INTO MY SCRIPTED COMMENTS, I JUST WANNA ADDRESS A COMMENT THAT WAS MADE EARLIER BY THE APPLICANT SAYING THAT NATIONAL CITY RESIDENTS ARE SPLIT ON WHETHER THEY APPROVE THIS PROJECT.

WE HAVE A LARGE SHOWING, PARTICULARLY ON THIS SIDE AND TWO OVERFLOW ROOMS, UH, WHERE WE HAVE RESIDENTS IN OPPOSITION TO THIS PROJECT.

SO, NO, THERE IS NO SPLIT DECISION HERE.

ACTUALLY, I HAVEN'T HEARD A SINGLE COMMENT FROM A RESIDENT, SOMEONE WHO LIVES HERE WHO IS IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT.

YOU'RE TRYING TO IMPOSE YOUR PERCEPTION OF OUR COMMUNITY.

AND YOU DON'T EVEN LIVE HERE.

YOU DON'T BREATHE

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SO ONTO MY SCRIPTED STUFF, I'M COMMENTING TODAY TO URGE YOU TO ALL REJECT THIS USDG FUELS FINAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT AND THE PETITION FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AT EHC.

WE ARE A NONPROFIT WHO HAVEN'T BEEN FIGHTING FOR ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE IN THE SAN DIEGO REGION FOR OVER 45 YEARS.

IN THE PORT SIDE, WE FOUGHT HARD FOR CLEAN AIR POLICIES LIKE THE MARITIME CLEAN AIR STRATEGY, THE COMMUNITY EMISSIONS REDUCTION PLAN, AND THE NATIONAL CITY AMORTIZATION ORDINANCE.

WE'VE DONE, WE'VE DONE THIS WORK AND WE'VE DONE IT FOR DECADES BECAUSE OUR COMMUNITIES ARE SICK.

ACCORDING TO RECENT STUDIES BY THE AIR RESOURCES BOARD, THE OVERALL POPULATION WEIGHTED CANCER RISK FROM ALL TOXIC AIR CONTAMINANTS IN THE PORTSIDE COMMUNITY WAS ESTIMATED TO BE ABOUT 950.

CANCER CAUSES PER MILLION.

85% OF THE CANCER RISKS ARE ATTRIBUTED TO DIESEL, PREDICT DIESEL PARTICULATE MATTER 30 SECONDS.

KIDS AT KIMBALL ELEMENTARY ARE BREATHING AIR WITH DPM AT HIGHER LEVELS THAN 91% OF THE CENSUS TRACK THROUGHOUT THE STATE.

GREENLINING A FACILITY THAT WOULD ATTRACT 72 HEAVY DUTY DIESEL TRUCKS WOULD MAKE THESE AIR QUALITY STATISTICS EVEN WORSE.

AND I'M NOT EVEN MENTIONING THE NOISE, THE TRAFFIC, THE FIRE CONCERNS THAT RESIDENTS CONTINUE TO ELEVATE TO US ON THE DAILY.

WHAT IS ALSO CONCERNING TO ME IS THAT THE PROJECT WOULD KEEP OUR REGION DEPENDENT ON INTRO COMBUSTION ENGINE VEHICLES BY ENCOURAGING THE BURNING OF AIR POLLUTION, BIODIESELS AND TRUCKS.

PLEASE REJECT THIS PROJECT.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

ROSA ALA.

MY NAME IS ROSA ALA.

I HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT OF NATIONAL WEST NATIONAL CITY FOR 20 YEARS.

AND DURING MY TIME HERE, I HAVE SEEN THE CHANGE TO IMPROVE OUR QUALITY OF LIGHT AND CLEAN AIR.

WITH EHC, WE WILL REGRESSING OF THE WORK WE HAVE AT COMPLETION BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE MANY CONTAMINATING INDUSTRIES THAT DAY, THAT DAY CONTAMINATE OR AIR AND LAND IN OLD CITY.

THE PRO PROJECT OF USDG FUEL WILL BE WITHIN LESS THAN 5,000 FEEDS OF THE CLOSEST RESIDENT.

I LIVE THERE HALF MILE AWAY FROM THE SCHOOLS AND CHURCH.

AND THE INCREASED TRAFFIC WILL BE CAUSED AND AFFECT THE HEALTH AND OF FUTURES GENERATIONS.

WE ARE COMMUNITY THAT LACK NATURAL RESOURCES OF, UM, PARADISE CREEK COULD BE AFFECTED BY THE CONTAMINATION.

I DO NOT SPEAK ONLY FOR MYSELF, BUT FOR MY NEIGHBORS, MY CHILDRENS, MY COMMUNITY, AND THE FUTURE OF THE OLD CITY THAT TO THIS DAY, PEOPLE REFER US NASTY CITY.

ALSO, I DON'T WANT TO BE IN NATIONAL NEWS.

IF SOME ACCIDENT HAPPENED, LIKE THEY HAPPENED IN THE MEXICO CITY LAST WEEK, PLEASE DO NOT APPROVE THIS, THIS, UH, THIS, UH, 30 SECONDS.

AND TO THIS DAY, MY DAUGHTER HAS THE DEVELOPED ALLERGIES TO THE LABEL CONTAMINATION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

PAUL, PAUL WA WAKI, FOLLOWED BY ZACHARY G FOLLOWED BY PAMELA ALBA.

HEY, GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY.

UM, YEAH, SO YOU HAVE A REALLY UNIQUE TASK I THINK THIS EVENING.

AND YOU KNOW, ONE, YOU'RE ABSORBING THE PUBLIC SENTIMENT, BY THE WAY, WHICH HAS BEEN LOUD AND PERSISTENT, UH, FOR A LONG TIME.

YOU KNOW, AT THIS POINT YOU HAVE THE SLEDGEHAMMER OF COMMON SENSE RHETORIC COMING FROM THE APPLICANT.

YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE BULLET POINT LIST, RIGHT? THE MONEY, THE REDUCED TRUCK NUMBER, THE, THE STATE GOALS, UM, ET CETERA.

AND CERTAINLY THERE'S THE LIUNA FACTOR.

UH, THEY'RE IN THE ROOM, THEY'VE BEEN IN THE SPACES, UH, IN ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT, UM, YOU KNOW, PARTS OF THIS JOURNEY.

YOU KNOW, AND WHEN THEY AREN'T INFLUENCING, UH, THE OUTCOMES OF ELECTIONS, THEY'RE CERTAINLY SIGNING CONTRACTS.

UH, AND YOU KNOW, IN WHICH THEY'RE, THEY'RE MEMBERS.

THE REAL LABOR PROBABLY ISN'T, UH, UH, GETTING THE HISTORICAL CONTEXT THAT ENVIRONMENTAL RACISM THAT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER.

SO THAT'S NOT HAPPENING.

SO MY QUESTION TO YOU IS THIS, I MEAN, IT'S REALLY SIMPLE.

WHO'S SHOWING IS MORE COMPELLING AND GENUINE IN THE SPACE AND IN THE SPAN OF THE COUPLE YEARS IN WHICH THE PUBLIC HAS BEEN TELLING YOU WHAT THEY WANT, WHAT THEY DON'T WANT? SO THAT'S THE QUESTION TO ANSWER HERE.

UM, ZACHARY G, IS ZACHARY AVAILABLE?

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UH, PAMELA.

HI.

GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

MY NAME IS PAMELA EL.

UNLIKE MOST OF US IN THIS ROOM, AND SIMILAR TO BILL FRACKING, I'M NOT A NATIONAL CITY RESIDENT, BUT UNLIKE HIM, I AM FROM SAN DIEGO.

I'M A MASTER OF SOCIAL WORK STUDENT AT SDSU.

AND SINCE 2020, I'VE WORKED IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA WITH LOW INCOME FAMILIES.

AS A CASE MANAGER, I STAND HERE TODAY AS A SAN DIEGO IN SOLIDARITY WITH MY NEIGHBORS FROM NATIONAL CITY.

WHILE I RESPECT THE CITY'S COMMITMENT TO STIMULATE THE ECONOMY, THERE ARE WAYS OF SEEKING OUT PARTNERSHIPS THAT DO NOT POISON US.

I AM FULLY AGAINST USDG AND URGE YOU TO CONSIDER VOTING AGAINST THEIR APPLICATION BILL FAIR KING.

AND HIS PEOPLE CAN KEEP THEIR 200,000 ANNUAL DONATION BECAUSE THE COST OF LONG-TERM HEALTH ISSUES FOR GENERATIONS TO COME WILL FAR SURPASS THAT.

DO WE BELIEVE THAT THE FIRING CHILDREN WOULD ENTHUSIASTICALLY ATTEND SCHOOLS IN OUR COMMUNITIES? WITH FUEL STATIONS LIKE THIS, THE DOWNPLAY OF NEGATIVE EFFECTS FROM THEIR MISLEADING STUDIES ARE ROMANTICIZED AND OFFENSIVE CLEAN AIR FOR THE PEOPLE SHOULD NOT BE UP FOR DEBATE.

I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

NEXT IS ALICIA MORRISON, FOLLOWED BY DOYLE MORRISON, FOLLOWED BY MARGARITA AVALOS SCOTT, ALICIA MORRISON COMING FROM THE OTHER ROOM.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

UH, FOLLOWED BY DOYLE MORRISON, FOLLOWED BY MARGARITA.

GOD.

THE ANALYSIS OF THE GENERAL PLAN THAT LAND USE ELEMENTS THAT STAFF SELECTED IS LIKE SELLING THE DEVIL A BAG OF ICE LAND USE 4.2 PEDESTRIAN SCALE URBAN DESIGN, LAND USE 4.4 MAINTENANCE OF SIDEWALKS AND BICYCLE ROUTES.

, THIS IS A FUEL STATION WITH RAIL CARS AND TANKER TRUCKS.

THE WETLANDS THAT WEREN'T ON SITE, THAT'S BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T PROTECTED.

UH, AFTER MITIGATION TO STATE, LESS THAN SIGNIFICANT IMPACT TO TRIBAL CULTURAL RESOURCES IS AN INSULT.

NATIONAL CITY HAS A COUPLE OF NAMES, NICKNAMES, IT'S OFTEN REFERRED TO AS NASTY CITY OR THE MUL VULGAR ONE NATIONAL CITY.

WELL, THOSE NAMES BE, UH, BECAME BECAUSE NATIONAL CITY HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE PLACE IT'S BEEN DUMPED ON.

OKAY, IT IS TIME TO CHANGE THAT WAY OF THINKING.

PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN NATIONAL CITY TAKE PRIDE IN THEIR CITY.

SO THE MESSAGE TO ALL DEVELOPERS, LOCAL OR FROM OUT STATE, THEY NEED TO RESPECT THAT.

OKAY, I OPPOSE ITEM THREE AND I'M ASKING THIS PLANNING COMMISSION TO PROTECT THE RESIDENTS NATIONAL CITY AND DENY THIS PROJECT.

THE USD FUELS FACILITY PROJECT.

30 SECONDS WILL BRING HARM TO THE PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY THE STUDENTS WHO ATTEND THE KIMBALL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

THAT'S HALF A MILE AWAY FROM THIS PROJECT.

PUT THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE RESIDENTS FIRST AND FOREMOST.

PLEASE GIVE NATIONAL CITY AND THE REST OF SOUTH BAY FRESH AIR TO BREATHE AND TURN THIS PROJECT DOWN.

THANK YOU DOYLE MORRISON.

UH, GOOD EVENING, UH, CLEAN AIR THROUGH CLEANER FUELS DELIVERED 2,400,000 FEWER TRUCK MILES A YEAR.

ELIMINATING, ELIMINATING LENGTHY TRUCK TRIPS RESULTING IN THE REMOVAL OF TAILPIPE EMISSIONS FROM THE AIR IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.

EVERY FUEL RAIL CAR REMOVES 3.6 TRUCKS FROM SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA HIGHWAYS.

AND IT CONCENTRATES IT RIGHT HERE IN NATIONAL CITY, ON THE WEST SIDE AND THE EAST SIDE.

AS THE WIND BLOWS THE FUMES TO YOUR HOUSE.

FOR EVERY FUEL CAR WE SOUTH BAY RESIDENTS WILL GET ADDED 3.6 DIESEL TRUCKS ON OUR LOCAL ROADS AND LOCAL HIGHWAYS.

SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA WILL BENEFIT IN THE OVERALL REDUCTION AND WE WILL BREATHE IT IN.

SO LET'S LOOK OR MORE TO THE POINT, LISTEN TO THE INCREASED RAIL SERVICE TO DELIVER THE RAIL CARS TO THIS FACILITY.

I LIVE EAST OF THE 8 0 5 AND I CAN HEAR BNSF BUMPING CARS AND SOUNDING THE REQUIRED HORN BLOWS AT CROSSINGS ALL NIGHT LONG.

LET'S LISTEN TO THE INCREASED OFF PEAK TRUCK TRAFFIC AND CHOKE DOWN MORE TOXIC WASTE.

NATIONAL CITIES SAID THEY WOULD PROTECT US FROM THIS PLANNING COMMISSION HAS TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON HERE.

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SO IT MIGHT BE MORE CENTRALLY LOCATED TO THE CENTER OF SECONDS, THE 35 MILE RADIUS IT'S SUPPOSED TO SERVE.

THE FUTURE IS ELECTRIFICATION.

THANK YOU SIR.

NEXT IS MARGARET GRAD, FOLLOWED BY CHRIS ROBERTS TO BE FOLLOWED BY RITA CLEMENT.

HELLO, COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF IN PUBLIC.

MY NAME IS MARGARET OCK.

I LIVE ON WEST 22ND STREET AND CLEVELAND AVENUE, THREE BLOCKS FROM THE PROPOSED FUEL TRANSFER STATION PLAN BY USDG FUELS ON BNSF PROPERTY.

THE ISSUE IS NOT WHETHER OR NOT BIODIESEL FUEL IS DESIRABLE.

NOT FOR US, IT IS, IS AN ADDITIONAL 140 DIESEL TRUCK TRIPS ON OUR STREETS DESIRABLE.

AND OBVIOUSLY THE ANSWER IS NO.

USDG FUELS PROPAGANDA STATES THAT EVERY FUEL RAIL CAR REMOVES 3.6 TRUCKS FROM OUR LOCAL HIGHWAYS.

BUT THIS PROJECT BRINGS AT LEAST 140 TRUCK TRIPS PER DAY TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS.

WE'RE NOT FULL BY $200,000 BENEFIT.

WERE INSULTED BY EVEN THE IDEA OF BRINGING IN THIS $200,000 SO-CALLED BENEFIT.

UH, THE CITY SAYS WE'VE HAD MANY PUBLIC HEARINGS.

WE CAN CHECK OFF THAT BOX AT ALL THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.

WE HAVE MADE OUR VOICES VERY STRONG THAT WE ARE AGAINST THIS PROJECT.

WE, RESIDENTS OF THE WEST SIDE RESIDENTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY AS WELL AS CITY GOVERNMENT, HAVE WORKED FOR DECADES TO ERADICATE TOXINS FROM OUR NEIGHBORHOODS POLLUTANTS, RESULTING FROM MIXED ZONING, MARITIME OPERATIONS, AND ESPECIALLY HEAVY TRUCK TRAFFIC.

THE APPROVAL OF A BUSINESS THAT WOULD BUY BRING A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF DIESEL TRUCK TRAFFIC INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOODS WOULD BE AN ENORMOUS STEP BACKWARD.

30 SECONDS.

THE NEGATIVE IMPACTS OF THE PROJECT WOULD BE CONCENTRATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF NATIONAL CITY, A COMMUNITY ALREADY OVERBURDENED BY HEAVY POLLUTION.

USD.

WHY INVEST IN CONS CONSUME IN, UH, COMBUSTIBLE FUEL? THE CITY ADMITS THAT THIS PROJECT IS IN CONFLICT WITH THE OVERALL GOALS OF THE CERT PLAN TO REDUCE AIR POLLUTION AND IMPROVE HEALTH TIME.

IT DOES NOT DO THAT, IT IMPACTS.

CHRIS ROBERTS TO BE FOLLOWED BY RITA CLEMENT TO BE FOLLOWED BY CYNTHIA ES.

HI, I'M CHRIS ROBERTS.

I'M A VOLUNTEER WITH SAN DIEGO THREE 50, UH, CLIMATE ACTION GROUP THAT FIGHTS FOR ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE.

AND I JUST WANNA THANK THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR HOLDING THIS MEETING.

UM, UH, SAN DIEGO THREE 50 STANDS, SHOULDER TO SHOULDER WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH COALITION TO OPPOSE THIS PROJECT.

THE EHC HAS BEEN FIGHTING DIRTY POLLUTING PROJECTS LIKE THIS FOR DECADES.

72 DIESEL TRUCKS WILL ROLL THROUGH NATIONAL CITY EVERY DAY, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, LOTS OF NOISE, LOTS OF POLLUTION.

IS THIS WHAT NATIONAL CITY WANTS? THE QUA SUM SUMMARY THAT WAS PRESENTED STATED THAT THIS PROJECT WON'T CAUSE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON EMISSIONS.

WELL, THAT'S PROBABLY BECAUSE POLLUTION LEVELS IN NATIONAL CITY ARE ALREADY SO HIGH.

THIS PROJECT CAUSES MORE POLLUTION AND WILL INCREASE NEGATIVE HEALTH IMPACTS.

THIS IS BEING SOLD AS A CLEAN PROJECT.

BUT BIODIESEL FUEL WHILE CLEANER THAN OIL AND GAS, IS NOWHERE NEAR AS CLEAN AS SOLAR AND WIND.

THE ENERGY SOURCES OF THE FUTURE FOR THE HEALTH OF NATIONAL CITY RESIDENTS, PLEASE INVEST IN ELECTRIFICATION OF TRUCKS AND TRAINS THAT ROLL THROUGH NATIONAL CITY AND SAY NO TO THIS DIRTY PROJECT.

UH, CYNTHIA QUINONE, FOLLOWED BY JANICE LUNA RENO RENOSO, EXCUSE ME, FOLLOWED BY JASMINE AYERS, PLEASE.

UH, COMMISSIONERS, AIR POLLUTION.

MY NAME IS RITA CLEMENT.

I'M YOUR NEIGHBOR IN CHULA VISTA.

UM, AIR POLLUTION DOES THAT COME IN A BOX, LIKE A BOX FROM AMAZON.

IT SPREADS EAST OF NATIONAL CITY OVER INTO CHULA VISTA.

IT CAN ALSO SPREAD TO SAN DIEGO.

IF WE'RE ASKING ABOUT JOBS, WE CAN USE ELECTRIC TRUCKS, WE CAN USE CHARGING STATIONS, WE CAN USE ROOFTOP SOLAR.

THOSE WILL PRO PROMOTE JOBS FOR NATIONAL CITY

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AS WELL AS SAN DIEGO AND CHULA VISTA.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT NOISE, NOISE FROM ALL THESE DIESEL TRUCKS.

ARE WE GOING TO BUILD A WALL SURROUNDING THE TRUCK ROUTE TO REDUCE THE LOWER AMOUNT OF NOISE? I ASK YOU, WHAT IS THE COST OF CHILDREN GOING TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM AND OTHER ADULTS RISKING EXPOSURE? 30 SECONDS TO, UH, CANCER AND HEART PROBLEMS? THAT MUST ADD UP TO MORE THAN $200,000 A YEAR.

HIGH ASTHMA RATES AND CUMULATIVE AIR POLLUTION BURDEN, WHEREAS THE PROJECT STANDS TO UNDERMINE THE COMMITMENTS TO THE NATIONAL SCHOOL DISTRICT AS THE CALIFORNIA GREEN RIBBON SCHOOL DISTRICT'S GOLD LEVEL HONOREE ACTIVELY WORKING TO REDUCE POLLUTION AND PROMOTE SUSTAINABILITY.

NEXT IS CYNTHIA ES FOLLOWED BY JANICE RENOSO, FOLLOWED BY JASMINE AYERS.

HI, MY NAME IS, UH, CYNTHIA FULLER ES I'M A LOCAL RESIDENT, A LANDLORD, A REGULAR SOUTH SAN DIEGO HEALTH ADVOCATE, AND A MEMBER OF THE NATIONAL CITY HEALTHY CO TORRES COALITION, WHICH IS AGAINST THIS PROJECT.

INSTEAD OF MY REGULAR, MY PREPARED REMARKS, UH, I'M RESPONDING TO, UH, THE USDG FUELS REPRESENTATIVES COMMENT THAT MOST OF OUR COMPLAINTS ARE PERCEPTION, NOT FACT NOT TRUE.

THIS IS NOT PERCEPTION, BUT FACT, THE BIOFUELS BEING TRANSFERRED, UH, ARE LITTLE USED IN OUR COMMUNITY DIRECTLY HERE IN NATIONAL CITY RA.

RATHER, THEY'RE LARGELY, UH, GOING TO THE NAVY AND TO THE AIRPORT.

THE TRUCKS TRANSPORTING THE BIOFUEL THROUGH OUR COMMUNITY, HOWEVER, WILL BE BURNING DIESEL AND RAISING THE AMOUNT OF SMALL PARTICULATE MATTER POLLUTION THAT WE WILL BE FORCED TO BREATHE.

SMALL PARTICULATE MATTER POLLUTION IS DIFFERENT FROM WHEN THE, UH, GREENHOUSE GASES, IT'S ALSO KNOWN AS PM 2.5.

IT'S A SIGNIFICANT AIR POLLUTION, UH, POLLUTANT THAT POSES SERIOUS HEALTH RISKS PER THE EPA.

THESE TINY PARTICLES, WHICH ARE 2.5 MICROMETERS AND SMALLER IN DIAMETERS, THEY PENETRATE DEEP INTO OUR LUNGS AND EVEN ENTER THE BLOODSTREAM, POTENTIALLY CAUSING HARM TO THE LUNGS, HEART, BRAIN, AND OTHER ORGANS.

AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING IN FRONT OF OUR CHILDREN RIGHT THERE AT KIMBALL.

UM, THE OTHER THING IS THE AIR QUALITY MEASUREMENTS AND THIS, UH, IN THE EIR COME FROM SHERMAN HEIGHTS, WHICH IS NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF THE AIR QUALITY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE CANNOT CONSIDER THIS PROJECT WITHOUT ADEQUATE LOCAL, EFFECTIVE AIR MONITORING IN OUR REGION, WHICH WE WON'T HAVE FOR AT LEAST ANOTHER SIX MONTHS ACCORDING TO THE SAN DIEGO AIR POLLUTION CONTROL DISTRICT TIME.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

JASMINE AYERS, FOLLOWED BY ZACHARY G JACK MONGER AND ISADORA LOPEZ.

PLEASE MA'AM.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS JANICE RENOSO, BORN AND RAISED HERE IN NATIONAL CITY.

I AM THE FOUNDER AND EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF MUNDO GARDENS, AN ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE AND URBAN GREENING ORGANIZATION THAT HAS SERVED NATIONAL CITY FOR 15 YEARS.

I AM ALSO PART OF THE AB 617 PORTSIDE STEERING COMMITTEE THAT THE REPORT REFERENCES OUR PRIORITIES ARE GO THROUGHOUT OUR PRIORITIES IN THE WORK THAT WE DO TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY AND THIS COMMUNITY'S HEALTH.

WE VERY PROUDLY AND WITH A LOT OF HUMILITY, UH, ARE GROWING OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH INDIGENOUS PEOPLES, THE KUMEYAAY.

AND SO WHEN THE REPORT VERY INDEED CALLS IT AN INSIGNIFICANT PART OF THE PROJECT, THAT THE CULTURAL, THE BIOLOGICAL, AND THE TRIBAL CONSIDERATIONS ARE INSIGNIFICANT.

IT SAYS A LOT ABOUT THE APPLICANT AND THE DECISIONS THAT WILL BE MADE BY THE BY.

YOU ALL WILL ALSO SAY A LOT ABOUT WHAT WE WILL DO TO MAKE THIS LAND, THE AIR AND OUR RELATIONSHIPS WITH EACH OTHER BETTER FOR THE NEXT GENERATIONS.

I'M HERE TO UPLIFT THE NATIONAL SCHOOL DISTRICT'S PROCLAMATION THAT WAS VOTED UNANIMOUSLY IN REGARDS TO THIS APPLICANT'S APPLICATION AND PROPOSAL.

A PART OF IT READS, WHEREAS THE SITE LOCATED LESS THAN HALF A MILE FROM KIM ELEMENTARY SCHOOL DIRECTLY EXPOSING YOUNG CHILDREN TO INCREASED DIESEL TRUCK TRAFFIC, AIR POLLUTION, AND HEIGHTENED HEALTH AND SAFETY RISK 30 SECONDS.

AND WHEREAS NATIONAL CITY HAS DESIGNATED A PORT SIDE ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE COMMUNITY ALREADY SUFFERING FROM DISPROPORTIONATELY

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AND WHEREAS THE PROPOSED FACILITY THREATENS TO REVERSE THE EFFORTS ALIGNED WITH THE UNITED NATIONS TIME SUSTAINABLE PARTICULARLY.

I HAVE NO MORE SPEAKER SLIPS FOR THIS EVENING.

WE HAVE THREE NO-SHOW ZACHARY G JACK MUNGER AND ISADORA LOPEZ.

UM, OKAY.

I REQUEST THE SECRETARY PROCEED WITH DISCLOSING IF ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS WERE RECEIVED IN WRITING.

MADAM SECRETARY.

AND THEY WERE POSTED ONLINE AS WELL, GIVEN TO YOU ON THE DAIS.

WE DID HAVE THE NATIONAL SCHOOL DISTRICT PROCLAMATION.

THEY MADE A COPY.

AND I'LL PASS THAT OUT AT THE END.

UM, WOULD STAFF LIKE TO MAKE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? OKAY.

STAFF.

WE'RE GETTING A LITTLE TOO NOISY WHILE THE PUBLIC HEARINGS CONTINUES.

PLEASE KEEP IT DOWN.

STAFF, UM, STAFF WOULD JUST LIKE TO NOTE, WE DO HAVE THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANT HERE.

IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ANALYSIS THAT'S PROVIDED IN THE EIR OTHER THAN THAT STAFF DOESN'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS AT THIS TIME, BUT IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

DOES THE APPLICANT OR THEIR REPRESENTATIVE WISH TO MAKE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS IN RESPONSE TO PUBLIC TESTIMONY? IF SO, YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES.

WE'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER.

PLANNING COMMISSIONERS.

ANY COMMENTS? UH, VICE CHAIR CASTLE.

UM, I DO HAVE, UM, SOME QUESTIONS TO ASK OF STAFF AND THE APPLICANT.

I'LL START WITH STAFF FIRST.

UM, I JUST WANTED TO KNOW, IS THIS FACILITY CONSISTENT WITH CURRENT ZONING AND THE RECENT MIXED USE OVERLAY PASSED IN 2023? THE, UM, MIXED USE OVERLAY DISTRICT WAS PART OF THE TOD STUDY AND THAT ALL IS ALL ON THE EAST SIDE OF INTERSTATE FIVE.

SO IT IT WORKS WITH THAT.

IT'S GOOD.

IT'S NOT WITHIN THAT AREA.

OH, IT'S NOT IN THERE.

PERFECT.

UM, I HAVE, OH, HAVE THE, UH, SURROUNDING JURISDICTION SUCH AS, UH, CITY OF SAN DIEGO, PORT OF SAN DIEGO AND CALTRANS, HAVE THEY BEEN, UH, FORMALLY CONSULTED REGARDING TRANSPORTATION AND HAZARD CONCERNS? DURING THE, UM, NOTIFICATION PROCESS FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT REVIEW, UM, WE WERE REQUIRED TO SEND NOTICES TO NEIGHBORING JURISDICTIONS.

UM, I BELIEVE WE GOT A COMMENT FROM THE PORT OF SAN DIEGO, IF NOT AT LEAST EMAIL, UM, WITH INTEREST IN THE PROJECT.

UM, BUT THAT WAS ALL WE RECEIVED AND THAT WAS, IF WE HAD A COMMENT, IT WOULD'VE BEEN PUBLISHED WITH THE EITHER THE M AND D OR THE FINAL EIR.

PERFECT.

UM, DO, DO WE KNOW WHAT ARE THE PROJECTED IMPACTS ON LOCAL ROADS, UM, FROM THE ADDITIONAL DIESEL TRUCK TRIPS DAILY? AND IS THERE A MITIGATION OR ROAD MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT ALREADY IN PLACE? A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS WAS CONDUCTED FOR THIS PROJECT, UM, BASED ON THE ANTICIPATED VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED, UM, THE PROJECT WAS CONSIDERED INSIGNIFICANT AS FAR AS TRAFFIC AND ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC, I GUESS.

UM, UM, SO THERE WAS NO MITIGATION FOR THAT VERY REASON.

THERE WAS NO IMPACT THAT WAS IDENTIFIED.

ARE YOU HAVING LIKE A LITTLE, LIKE A POT OF MONEY THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE, SO AS FAR AS INFRASTRUCTURE FAILURE, I'M NOT SURE.

UM, ARE THERE CONTINGENCY FUNDS SET ASIDE IN CASE OF ENVIRONMENTAL, UM, REMEDIATION OR INFRASTRUCTURE FAILURE? ARE,

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AND WHAT, LIKE IF SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN AND GO WRONG, DO WE HAVE FUNDS THAT ARE GONNA BE HELD AND SET ASIDE FOR, FOR, UM, FOR THAT IN PARTICULAR IF SOMETHING HAPPENS? UM, AS FAR AS ON, ON THE STAFF SIDE, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'LL GET ADDITIONAL COMMENTS.

UM, BUT, UM, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT SPECIFICALLY HAS BEEN LOOKING INTO THIS FOR, UH, HAZARDOUS, UH, SITUATION MM-HMM .

SO IF, IF THERE WAS, UH, LIKE A LARGE EVENT, LARGE SCALE EVENT THAT WAS, UM, CAUSED OR CAME FROM THIS FACILITY, UM, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS DISCUSSED GETTING RECUPERATION FROM RESPONSES TO THOSE TYPES OF EVENTS, UH, HERE AND, AND IN OTHER INDUSTRIAL AREAS IN THE WEST SIDE.

UM, COULD, OH, I WAS GONNA ASK TOO, UM, FOR, THERE WAS MENTION FOR THE RUNOFF, UM, THAT THE, UH, THE STORM WATER MANAGEMENT, UM, IN PLACE IS GO GOING TO, UM, TAKE CARE OF LIKE FOR ANY GAS OR DIESEL OR ANYTHING THAT'S, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS WITH THE, THE RUNOFF.

UM, WHO PAYS FOR THAT? WHO PAYS FOR THE STORM WATER MANAGEMENT? IS THAT A CITY'S COST? SO I, I CAN BEGIN WITH, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S A SPILL OR SOMETHING, THE PROJECT INCLUDES CONTAINMENT TO, UM, PREVENT SPILLS FROM LEAKING INTO AREAS THEY SHOULDN'T.

UM, BUT IN THE EVENT THAT SOMETHING SHOULD GO INTO THE, THE STORMWATER SYSTEM, I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER TO PUBLIC WORK WORKS ON THAT QUESTION.

AND THEN, UM, FOR THE APPLICANT, UM, IF YOU WANNA COME UP YES, PLEASE.

UM, FIRST QUESTION, UM, I JUST WANTED TO ASK, UM, CAN YOU EXPLAIN HOW THIS FACILITY BENEFITS THE IMMEDIATE COMMUNITY AND NOT JUST, UH, REGIONAL DISTRIBUTION NETWORKS? YES.

WELL, AS I SEE IF I CAN GET THIS UP A LITTLE BIT, UM, AS I'VE SAID IN MY REMARKS, I MEAN THE JOBS ARE HERE, THE FACILITIES ARE HERE, AND THE AVAILABILITY OF CLEAN FUELS WILL BE INCREASED HERE.

SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A REFERENCE TO THESE ARE DIESEL TRUCKS.

FIRST OF ALL IS THE TRANS LOADER AT THIS FACILITY, WHICH IS JUST MOVING THE FUEL FROM THE RAIL CARS TO THE TRUCKS.

WE DON'T POSSESS THE FUEL, WE DON'T CONTRACT WITH THE TRUCKS.

THAT'S ALL DONE FROM THE FUEL MANUFACTURERS THAT ARE BRINGING FUELS INTO THIS AREA TODAY.

SO I LAID OUT THE ECONOMIC BENEFIT, LAID OUT THE JOBS, THE AVAILABILITY OF CLEAN FUELS TO REPLACE WHAT ARE REFERRED TO AS THE CURRENT CALIFORNIA CONVENTIONAL FUELS OR THE OLDER CLEAN FUELS.

IT MAKES THOSE FUELS MORE AVAILABLE TODAY.

AND THE TRIPS THAT THE TRUCKS WILL TAKE ARE TRIPS THAT ARE DELIVERING FUELS TO THE SAME LOCATIONS WHERE THEY'RE DELIVERING THEM TODAY.

THIS IS NOT A MARKET EXPANSION NEW LOCATION, IT'S JUST TAKING THOSE TRUCK MILES, INCLUDING HOW THEY ROLL DOWN I FIVE NOW, AND WHEREVER THEY TURN OFF TO GO TO THEIR DELIVERY POINTS, THOSE ARE GONNA BE THE SAME DELIVERY POINTS TODAY.

WHAT THE EIR FOCUSED ON WAS THE SPECIFIC PATH FROM I FIVE TO OUR FACILITY AND BACK AND THE IMPACTS OF THAT.

SO WHEN I SAID, YOU KNOW, NOT SIGNIFICANT, I WASN'T, YOU KNOW, WHAT I WAS SAYING IS THOSE WERE VIEWED TO SEE IF THE IMPACTS WERE SOMETHING TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT.

SO THE BENEFITS ARE MORE AVAILABILITY OF CLEAN FUELS.

THAT SHOULD MAKE, I'M NOT GONNA MAKE A MARKET CALL UP HERE WITH YOU, BUT HAVING CLEAN FUELS AVAILABLE WITH A MUCH MORE EFFICIENT TRANSPORTATION SUPPLY CHAIN SHOULD, SHOULD BENEFIT WHATEVER THE COST OF THESE FUELS ARE INTO THE FUTURE BECAUSE THEY'LL BE AVAILABLE AND THEY'LL BE FROM HERE WITH SHORTER TRIPS TO DELIVER THEM TO THE LOCATIONS THEY'RE GOING TODAY.

SUPPOSED TO BE STUFF THAT'S HELPING THE ENVIRONMENT HAD DID, DID YOU THINK, UM, ABOUT POSSIBLY CONTRACTING ONLY WITH ELECTRIC TRUCKS FOR THIS, UM, I KNOW NATIONAL CITY AND THE PORT OF SAN DIEGO ARE WORKING ON A, A ONE OF THE FIRST IN, UM, THE NATION, AN ELECTRIC TRUCK CHARGING STATION.

AND, UM, IS THERE ANY KIND OF, DID, DID YOU THINK ABOUT, OR, I MEAN THIS IS BIOFUEL AND THIS IS A SUSTAINABLE AVIATION FUEL.

THIS IS, UM, THINGS THAT ARE RENEWABLE DIESEL, RENEWABLE DIESEL.

RIGHT.

IT'S

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UM, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD BE, UM, WILLING TO IMPLEMENT AND, UM, ONLY CONTRACT WITH ELECTRIC TRUCK VEHICLES TO MAKE, TO REALLY MITIGATE THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT ON RESIDENTS AND WELL, WELL, FIRST, THE, THE ELECTRIC TRUCK SUPPLY IS NOT SUFFICIENT FOR EITHER WHAT THE NAVY'S DOING OR, UM, DELIVERY OF THESE FUELS TODAY.

THEY'RE JUST NOT IN PRODUCTION AT SCALE.

THEY'RE CERTAINLY NOT PROVEN AT THIS POINT TO THAT LEVEL OTHER THAN RELATIVELY SHORT, YOU KNOW, ONSITE TRUCK MOVEMENTS AND, AND SHORT, SHORT MOVEMENTS.

SECOND, THE TRUCKS ARE CONTRACTED WITH EITHER THE FUEL SUPPLIERS OR THE SERVICE STATIONS THAT ARE GETTING THOSE FUELS.

TODAY, OUR PROJECT IS MERELY THE SERVICE THAT ALLOWS THESE FUELS WITHOUT STORAGE TO GET OFF THE RAIL AND ONTO THE TRUCK.

SO WE'RE NOT IN THE LEGAL TERM, WOULD BE PRIVITY A CONTRACT WITH THEM ON THIS PROJECT.

WE'RE CERTAINLY OPEN TO IT.

AND WHAT I THINK, AGAIN, I DON'T WANNA MAKE A PREDICTION, BUT IF THOSE FUELS ARE, THE CLEANER FUELS ARE MORE WIDELY AVAILABLE IN THIS AREA, THEN THE TRUCKS SERVICING THIS AREA SHOULD BE USING THE CLEANER FUELS, WHICH WILL BE MORE ABUNDANTLY IN THESE SERVICE STATIONS TODAY, WHICH WOULD REDUCE THE CONCERNS ABOUT DIESEL PARTICULATE MATTER AND, AND THE OTHER EMISSIONS.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, USING THE CARBON EPA NUMBERS, THAT'S 70 OR 80% DEPENDING ON THIS AND THIS AND THIS.

SO AGAIN, I'M NOT TRYING TO MAKE A PREDICTION, BUT THAT'S WHAT THE DATA WOULD SUGGEST WOULD HAPPEN.

SO WE'RE OPEN TO ELECTRIC TRUCKS.

UM, WE'RE A SERVICE PROVIDER BETWEEN THE RAILROAD AND, AND THE FUEL MANUFACTURERS WHO CONTRACT WITH THE TRUCKS.

IS YOUR MAIN, UM, IS YOUR MAIN, UH, PURCHASER GONNA BE THE, THE NAVY? IS THAT WHY YOU CHOSE THIS LOCATION? NOT THAT I, NOT THAT I AWARE THEY DON'T.

BY BNSF WHO MADE THE DECISION TO PUT THIS PROPERTY OF THEIRS, UM, TO CLEAN IT UP, PUT IT IN COMMERCIAL USE, AND THEY REACHED OUT TO US.

FIRST OF ALL, WE'RE NOT SELLING FUELS.

WE'RE JUST DOING THE SERVICE MOVING IT TO AVOID STORAGE TANKS AND AVOID LONG TRUCK TRIPS WHERE THAT FUEL GOES.

MY UNDERSTANDING, AND I'LL ASK MY PROJECT TEAM, IF ANYONE KNOWS BETTER, UH, PLEASE LET ME KNOW, IS THAT IT'S GOING TO ALL THE LOCATIONS RECEIVING SERVICE TODAY WITH ROUND TRIP TRUCK TRIPS FROM THE LA BASIN AND, AND, UH, OKAY, SO IT'S GOING ALL THE WAY UP TO LA, RIGHT? NO, IT, IT WILL, THIS WILL SERVICE, 'CAUSE THOSE TRUCK TRIPS COMING FROM LA 'CAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE, THESE FUELS ARE MANUFACTURED PRIMARILY IN THE UPPER US MIDWEST AND THE US GULF COAST AS CONVENTIONAL REFINERS MOVE INTO MAKING CLEAN FUELS AND SOME NEW COMPANIES THAT ARE IN THE CLEAN FUEL, THOSE GET TO CALIFORNIA THAT HAS THE INCENTIVES AND THE POLICIES TO GET THEM EITHER BY WATER OR RAIL.

YOU CAN'T SERVICE THIS AREA BY WATER BECAUSE OF THE SHIPYARD AND THE NAVY DOWN THERE.

SO IT'S, IT'S SERVICED BY TRAINS TODAY.

THEY JUST STOP IN THE LA BASIN AND THEN TRUCKS TAKE OVER AND THEY HAUL THAT FUEL DOWN AND THEY'RE MAKING THOSE ROUND TRIP TRUCK TRIPS EVERY DAY.

SO REALLY ONE OF THE PRIMARY BENEFITS OF THIS LOCATION IS ONE, YOU GOTTA BE WHERE THE RAILROAD IS, AND TWO, IT BRINGS IT INTO MARKET SO IT ELIMINATES THOSE LONG HAUL TRUCK TRIPS SO THAT IT COMES BY A MORE EFFICIENT RAIL TRANSPORTATION HERE.

WERE THERE OTHER, UM, POTENTIAL SITES WITHIN THE COUNTY OR REGION THAT WERE CONSIDERED? AND, UM, WHAT ARE THE SPECIFIC DISADVANTAGES FOR THOSE SITES THAT LED TO NATIONAL CITY BEING SELECTED? THERE WERE, THOSE ARE REFLECTED IN THE EIR ALTERNATIVE ANALYSIS MM-HMM .

THE, UM, THERE WASN'T A SITE THAT COULD, COULD HANDLE THIS FOOTPRINT AND FACILITY.

THERE WAS A POTENTIAL SITE DOWN ON THE BORDER THAT WAS IN THE PROCESS OF US COMING UP WITH THIS PROJECT.

AND TO THIS POINT, UM, THEY CONTRACTED WITH CONVENTIONAL FUELS THAT TO SUBSTANTIALLY FILL UP THAT LOCATION AND THEY JUST DIDN'T HAVE THE ABILITY FOR IT.

AND THIS SITE WAS SELECTED AND WE WERE CONTACTED

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AND IN OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM, THAT WAS BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT THIS WAS THE BEST PROJECT FOR CLEAN AIR HERE AND THEM GROWING THEIR CLEAN FUELS BUSINESS.

AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE WERE CONTACTED BECAUSE THEY TRUST US AS SOMEONE TO DEVELOP THESE PROJECTS AND RUN 'EM SAFELY.

THERE WAS A LADY HERE THAT SPOKE, AND SHE WAS FROM THE, UM, SHE WAS A LIAISON FROM THE UNITED STATES NAVY, FROM THE NAVAL BASE RIGHT HERE.

UM, I KNOW SHE WAS, UH, HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT, UM, WHETHER THE, THE TRUCK, THE RAILS, THE TRAINS WERE GOING TO BE BLOCKING, UH, INTERSECTIONS OR BACKING UP TRAFFIC YES.

THAT GOES INTO THE BASE DURING CERTAIN TIMES, DURING COMMUTE HOURS IN AND OUT OF THE BASE.

UM, HAVE, HAVE YOU GUYS TAKEN THAT INTO CONSIDERATION OR LOOKED AT TIMING OF THAT FOR THE, UM, FOR THE TRAINS? WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THE TWO ANSWERS, UM, AND, AND I DON'T THINK I SUFFICIENTLY ANSWERED YOUR PREVIOUS QUESTION, SO I DIDN'T WANT TO DODGE IT.

YOU ASKED, I THINK IS OUR, ARE OUR FUELS GOING TO THE NAVY AND THE AIRPORT, I THINK WAS MAYBE YOUR QUESTION.

NOT THAT I'M, I'M AWARE OF.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY SPECIAL, UM, IF THEY'RE NOT GOING THERE THE DAY BEFORE OUR PROJECT OPENS, ALL THOSE FUELS ARE GOING TO THE SAME PLACE THAT ALL THE FUELS COMING INTO THIS AREA ARE GOING TODAY.

SO THEY'RE NOT A TARGET OR I'M NOT AWARE THAT DISPROPORTIONATELY OR AT ALL FUELS ARE GOING THERE.

IF SAF COMES HERE, THEN IT WOULD ALMOST CERTAINLY GO THERE TO THE AIRPORT BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE SUSTAINABLE AVIATION FUEL GOES.

UM, NOW YOUR LAST QUESTION WAS, DID WE TALK TO THE RAILROAD? UM, YES.

THE RAILROAD HAS AGREEMENTS, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, AND I DON'T WANNA SPEAK ON BEHALF OF BNSF, UM, BUT IN OUR, OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM, THEY HAVE AGREEMENTS WITH THE NAVY ABOUT WHAT THEIR CROSSING TIMES ARE AND HOW THAT'S MORE A MAINLINE QUESTION, NOT THE, NOT A PROJECT QUESTION.

UM, AND THEY HAVE SAID THAT THEIR SERVICE WILL BE CONSISTENT WITH ALL THEIR AGREEMENTS WITH THE NAVY, UM, AND WHATEVER THE OTHER SPEAKER WAS ADDRESSING IN THAT.

WAS THERE A PART OF THAT? MAYBE I MISSED? NO, I THINK YOU GOT IT.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.

UH, COMMISSIONER QUINONES, I, COMM COMMISSIONER CASTLE ASKED THE QUESTIONS THAT I WANTED TO ASK, BUT AGAIN, YOU SAID THAT, UH, FOR NATIONAL CITY YOU DIDN'T PICK NATIONAL CITY, NATIONAL CITY, THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY CALLED YOU GUYS.

IS THAT MY UNDERSTANDING? SO THE BNSF RAILROAD HAS CLEANED UP THAT PROJECT, INTENDING TO PUT IT IN COMMERCIAL USE.

WHAT THEY HAVE TOLD ME AND AND OUR COMMERCIAL TEAM IS THEY DID IT BECAUSE, ONE, THEY WANNA BUILD THEIR CLEAN FUELS BUSINESS.

AND TWO, THEY THOUGHT AS A LOCAL PROJECT, A CLEAN FUELS PROJECT HERE WOULD BE THE MOST BENEFICIAL CLEAN AIR PROJECT THEY COULD BRING TO THIS PLACE.

THEY HAVE ALSO SAID THAT IF FOR ANY REASON THIS PROJECT DOES NOT MOVE FORWARD, THEY INTEND TO PUT THAT PROPERTY INTO COMMERCIAL RAILROAD SERVICE.

NOW, THEY DON'T DISCLOSE TO US.

WE WORK A LOT WITH MOST OF THE, ALL OF THE CLASS ONE RAILROADS AND, AND MANY OF THE SHORT LINES, RAILROADS DON'T ALWAYS DISCLOSE TO US WHAT THEIR ALTERNATIVE PROJECTS ARE.

UM, SO I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHAT THAT WOULD BE, BUT I HAVE HAD CONVERSATION WHERE THEY HAVE SAID THEY SPECIFICALLY CLEAN IT UP TO PUT IT IN A COMMERCIAL RAILROAD USE, AND THEY INTEND TO DO IT BECAUSE IT'S A PROPERTY SITTING ON THEIR BOOKS.

IT'S NOT BEING UTILIZED, AND THEY'RE GONNA GROW THEIR BUSINESS.

SO WHEN YOU'RE SAYING ALL THE FUEL, THE FUEL WILL GO, IT'S COMING TO NATIONAL CITY AND THEN IT'S GONNA BE TRANSPORTED OUT TO WHERE, WHY DOES IT HAVE TO COME INTO HERE? I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S THE FUEL'S COMING HERE TODAY.

AND THEN THE TRUCK TRIPS DELIVERING IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE MUCH SHORTER THAN THOSE LONG HAUL TRUCK TRIPS DELIVERING IT TO ALL THEIR LOCATIONS TODAY.

IT'S JUST ON ROUND TRIP TRUCK TRIPS FROM LA TO HERE AND THEN FROM HERE.

WHERE DOES IT GO? THERE ARE NO ALL TO ALL, THAT'S WHAT FILLS UP THE SERVICE STATIONS.

AND, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S PRIVATE COMPANIES THAT KEEP FUEL ON SITE OR, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE THE NAVY, COULD BE, COULD BE THE AIRPORT THAT USES MOTOR FUELS.

'CAUSE THEY GOT VEHICLES THERE TOO.

AND, UH, SO EVERYWHERE THE FUEL'S GOING TODAY, RIGHT NOW, IF THIS PROJECT WERE TO OPEN TOMORROW, IT WOULD JUST MUCH MORE EFFICIENTLY COME IN HERE, REMOVING THOSE TRUCK MILES

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SO WE DON'T KNOW WHO THE CUSTOMERS ARE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT UNDER CONTRACT.

SOME OF THEM ARE, ARE PROBABLY THE SERVICE STATIONS AND CHAINS THAT, YOU KNOW, SIGN AGREEMENTS TO GET THOSE FUELS.

AND WHAT THIS WILL DO IS THEY'LL GET THOSE HERE INSTEAD OF CONTRACTING WITH THEM FROM LA BUT THE TRUCKS ARE DRIVING TO ALL THE SAME, THERE'S NO NEW NEW TRUCK TRIPS EXCEPT THAT I FIVE LOOP, UM, TO OUR FACILITY AND BACK TO I FIVE.

AND THEN THEY'RE GONNA GO EXACTLY WHERE THEY'RE GOING TODAY.

BUT THEY'RE GOING TO, THEY'RE COMING AND GOING, BUT THEY'RE GONNA BE STORED HERE.

THE STORED, THE, THE FUEL, I'M, I'M JUST, THERE'S NO STORAGE OF THESE FUELS.

THAT'S ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF THIS PROJECT IS IT TAKES IT FROM IN TRANSIT IS WHAT THE TERM IS.

THESE ARE FUELS THAT ARE IN TRANSIT.

RAIL CARS WILL PULL UP, THEY'LL HOOK TO BASICALLY A SERIES OF SHORT PIPES CALLED A HEADER SYSTEM.

AND THEY WILL FEED INTO THAT HEADER SYSTEM AND THERE WON'T BE UNDERGROUND STORAGE TANKS OR ABOVEGROUND TANKS.

THEY'LL FEED INTO THAT LINE.

TRUCKS WILL PULL UP.

IT'S ELECTRONIC.

WE'VE HAD PEOPLE ON SITE, BUT THE DRIVERS ARE QUALIFIED FOR OUR SITE.

IF THEY DON'T FOLLOW OUR PROCEDURES, WE LOCK 'EM OUT AND THEY FILL THEIR TRUCKS UP AND THEY GO TO THE DELIVERY POINTS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO TODAY.

WHAT'S HAPPENING TODAY IS THEY'RE FILLING THOSE TRUCKS UP IN LA AND THE INLAND EMPIRE AND THEN MAKING THOSE LONG TRUCK TRIPS AND DELIVERING LOCAL AND THEN HEADED BACK EMPTY TO GO UP THERE.

SO THAT'S ONE OF THE MOST SIGNIFICANT, NOT ONLY EMISSIONS DECREASES OF THIS, BUT ALSO TRAFFIC AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE LONG HAUL TRUCK TRIPS.

THAT ADDRESS YOUR QUESTION? THANK YOU.

THANKS FOR THE , UH, COMMISSIONER AMINTA.

UH, YES.

MAYBE STAY THERE 'CAUSE I AM NOT AS ORGANIZED AS, UH, COMMISSIONER CASTLE WITH MY QUESTIONS UNDER COMMENTS.

SO STAFF PLEASE STAND BY TO, FOR ME.

UM, I DID HAVE WANT TO ASK, UM, ON THE DIESEL EMISSION STUDIES IN THE EIR, UM, FOR TRUCKS AND THE TRAIN AND EVERYTHING, WAS ALL THAT, UH, DID ALL THAT INCLUDE THE IDLING? UH, YES.

THERE WE HAVE AN IDLE POLICY AND IT'S CONSISTENT WITH NOT ONLY THE LOCAL STANDARDS IN EPA SMART WAY, BUT THERE'S NO IDLING FOR TRUCKS MORE THAN FIVE MINUTES WHEN THEY PULL IN THAT FIVE MINUTES, USUALLY JUST DUE TO IF IT'S HOT, THEY WANNA RUN THEIR AIR CONDITIONER AND IF IT'S COLD, THEY HAVE HEAT.

BUT, UH, THEY WILL NOT SIT IN IDLE AS THEY'RE WAITING TO FILL UP.

AND NOW, IS THERE GONNA BE ANYBODY MONITORING THAT OUR FACILITY PEOPLE DO? YES.

YOUR FACILITY PEOPLE? YES.

AND WILL THAT ALSO INCLUDE ANY QUEUING OF TRUCKS WHILE THEY'RE WAITING, UH, ON THE STREETS? OR, LET ME ASK MY OPERATIONS PERSON JUST TO MAKE SURE WE GET THIS CORRECT FOR YOU.

ALEX OR, OR GA.

ALEX, DO YOU KNOW THAT ONE OR THE IDLE POLICY? DO YOU KNOW THE IDLE POLICY FOR OUR TRUCKS? OR IS THAT, DID YOU HAVE AN E-R-E-I-R QUESTION ON IDLING TWO AS WELL AS AN OPERATION? 'CAUSE WE HAVE THE PERSON WHO DID THE AIR STUDY ON OUR VAR.

IF YOU CAN GO OVER BOTH FOR ME, THAT WOULD BE, WOULD YOU LIKE THAT? YES.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, FIRST ONE OF YOU LIKE TO TAKE THIS GOOD EVENING, EVENING COMMISSION.

THE 15 MINUTE TO WHEN WE DO OUR MODELING.

MY NAME IS SETH MYERS WITH EQUAL CONSULTING AND I THE, UH, DIRECTOR OF THE AIR QUALITY EMISSIONS REPORT.

MM-HMM .

AND YES, THAT STUDY ASSUMES 15 MINUTES OF IDLING PER TRUCK ON SITE, JUST AS A, TO AIR ON THE SIDE OF, OF CONSERVATIVE TO MAKE SURE WE CAPTURE ALL THE EMISSION SOURCES.

SO I, I GUESS MY, MY QUESTION ALSO, UH, YOU MEAN ON SITE, DOES THAT MEAN ALSO OFFSITE IN CASE THERE'S ANY QUEUING OF TRUCKS OR TRAFFIC OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? PER TRIP? PER TRIP PER TRUCK, IT'S ASSUME FIVE MINUTES WHEN THEY ARRIVE, FIVE MINUTES AT START UP BEFORE THEY LEAVE, AND THEN FIVE MINUTES AS THEY QUEUE THEIR WAY OUT.

NOW, WHO'S GONNA ENSURE THAT THAT STAYS IN WITHIN THEIR POLICY? THAT'S A MODELING PROCEDURE THAT'S, UH, BESTOWED TO US BY THE, UH, LOCAL AIR DISTRICT, SAN DIEGO OR POLLUTION CONTROL DISTRICT.

THAT'S A MODELING PARAMETER THAT WE PUT INTO THESE.

AGAIN, JUST, UH, AIR ON THE SIDE OF CAUTION.

NOW, STATE LAW DOES SAY EVERY TRUCK CAN ONLY IDLE FOR FIVE MINUTES, AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, GENERALLY ADHERED TO OR CONSIDERED TO BE ADHERED TO.

AND THAT'S WHY, UH, THAT'S WHY THE PROTOCOLS ARE SET UP THAT WAY.

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I GUESS MY CONCERN IS STILL HAVING SOME KIND OF COMPLIANCE OFFICER PERSON THERE MONITORING THIS.

LET ME, CAN I ADDRESS THAT? YES.

YOUR MODEL DOESN'T TYPICALLY TALK ABOUT OPERATIONS BOARD.

LET ME INTRODUCE, UH, GAVIN JENKINS.

HE WILL BE OUR HEAD OF OPERATIONS AND HE'S AWARE OF THE POLICY AND HE AND HIS PEOPLE WILL BE THE ONES TO ENFORCE IT.

HEY, GOOD EVENING.

SO YES, IT IS A POLICY AT ALL OF OUR LOCATIONS THAT THERE IS NO IDLE.

UM, THEY'RE STAFF 24 7 365, AND THAT IS PART OF THE EMPLOYEE'S RESPONSIBILITIES AS THEY ARE OUT TO MONITOR THE FACILITY, MONITOR THE OPERATIONS, THERE'S NO IDLING OF, UH, TRUCKS.

SO, AND, AND I UNDERSTAND AND I APPRECIATE, UH, EVERYBODY COMING UP TO SPEAK AND CLARIFY THAT FOR ME.

BUT, UM, AS A RESIDENT HERE, I, UH, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE ALL HAVE TO ADHERE BY POLICIES, BUT I DO, MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS JUST THAT IT WON'T BE ADHERED TO IF THE PROJECT DOES PASS IN A FEW MONTHS, IN A FEW YEARS, UH, IT'LL GET RELAXED SOMEHOW AND THERE WON'T BE ANYBODY MONITORING NOT ONLY THE IDLING, BUT THEN I ALSO HAD QUESTIONS ON THE, UM, ON THE STREET ROUTE.

YOU KNOW, BEFORE WE MOVE ON, I THINK STAFF HAS, UH, WANTS TO ADDRESS THIS PARTICULAR QUESTION ABOUT IDLING.

I JUST WANTED TO ADD A QUICK BIT OF CLARIFICATION THAT THERE IS A, UH, IN TITLE 11.34 OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE, THERE IS A, A NO IDLING MORE THAN FIVE MINUTES REQUIREMENT AND NO QUEUING OR IDLING WITHIN A HUNDRED FEET OF THE SCHOOL.

AND THOSE ARE CON, THAT'S PART OF THE CONDITIONS FOR THE OPERATIONS PLAN OF THIS AS FAR AS WHO, UH, MONITORS THAT WE, WE TAKE CARE OF, UH, ANY COMPLAINTS BY GOING AND DOING INSPECTIONS WHEN WE CAN.

AND WE DO RESPOND TO COMPLAINTS FROM THE PUBLIC TODAY.

WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT FOR ANY FUTURE PROJECT.

SO DOES THAT SATISFY YOU? UH, OKAY.

THAT'LL SATISFY THE IDLE LANE.

NOW, WILL THAT ALSO INCLUDE THE, UM, THE TRUCK ROUTES? SO IT'S NOT JUST POLICY, IT'S ALSO IN THE MUNICIPAL CODE? YES.

SO, OKAY.

JUST FOR CLARIFICATION.

I, I UNDERSTAND THAT.

WELL, UH, OKAY, WELL, I'LL, I'LL, LET ME, LET ME ADDRESS THAT.

IF, IF I MAY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT.

NO, NO, PLEASE ADDRESS.

SO WE LOCK PEOPLE OUT OF OUR FACILITY THAT AREN'T FOLLOWING THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES THAT WE HAVE AT OUR FACILITY.

WHEN THEY KEY IN, THEY CAN'T LOAD IF THEIR CAR, D CAR DOESN'T WORK.

IF WE GET COMPLAINTS OR WE GET FOLLOW UP, THE TRUCKS ARE GOING ON ROUTE, WE GET THE TRUCK NUMBER, WE GET THE DRIVER INFORMATION, AND WE TYPICALLY GO TO THEM AND WE'LL SEE IF IT'S, THEY DID IT, WE'LL FOLLOW UP AND WE'LL SAY, IF WE GET ANOTHER COMPLAINT, YOU'RE LOCKED OUT.

AND NOW THAT COMPANY LOSES THE DRIVER AND THAT DRIVER DOESN'T HAVE A ROUTE TO GO RUN.

IT'S, IT'S BEEN PRETTY EFFECTIVE.

AND WE'VE GOT PEOPLE THERE 24 7 MANNING THIS FACILITY FOR MANY REASONS, BUT THAT IS AMONG THEM.

YOU'RE OUT OF ORDER, PLEASE.

I, I APPRECIATE THAT.

UH, ONE MORE QUICK ON THE, UH, ANOTHER QUESTION ON THE TRUCKS.

UH, IT'S BEEN MENTIONED, UH, MANY TIMES IT'S GONNA BE ABOUT 72 TRUCKS A DAY, UM, PER SE IN A COUPLE YEARS GO BY.

IF THE PROJECT DOES GET APPROVED, IS THERE GONNA BE A CAP AS, OR IS IT ALWAYS GONNA STAY 72 UH, TRUCKS A DAY FOR THE NEXT 30 YEARS OR SO? WELL, WE CAN'T PREDICT THE FUTURE.

WE DON'T HAVE PLANS WITH THE FOOTPRINT WE'RE BUILDING TO EXPAND THIS FACILITY.

I MEAN, YOU'VE SEEN THE PIECE OF PROPERTY IT'S ON AND IT'S DESIGNED TO HANDLE THAT MANY TRUCKS TO ENTERTAIN THE HYPOTHETICAL.

I MEAN, IF THAT WERE TO HAPPEN, IT WOULD TAKE AN EXPANDED FACILITY AND IT WOULD TAKE ANOTHER APPROVAL PROCESS WHERE THE CITIZENS WOULD'VE PUBLIC COMMENT AND YOU ALL, AND THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD VOTE ON IT.

MM-HMM .

WE, WE DON'T HAVE THAT IN OUR PLANS AT THIS FACILITY.

WHEN WE FIRST BROUGHT THIS PROJECT FORWARD AND DID THE ISM AND D PROCESS, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID IS WE CAME IN WITH A PROJECT AS DEVELOPERS SAYING, WELL, THERE COULD BE GROWTH IN THIS AREA.

AND AFTER WE GOT FEEDBACK FROM CITY STAFF AND WENT TO THE EIR, IF I'M GETTING THAT STEP RIGHT, WE ALREADY CUT THIS PROJECT IN, IN ABOUT 50%.

AND SO THIS IS THE PROJECT WE'RE PUTTING IN, AND THERE'S NO EXPANSION IN TERMS OF NUMBER OF TRUCKS OR THE FOOTPRINT THERE THAT WE ENVISION FOR THIS FACILITY.

THAT'S WHY WE CUT IT BACK.

WE JUST SAID, IF THIS IS WHAT TAKES TO SERVE, THAT'S WHAT WE'LL DO TRUST PER DAY FOR 15 MINUTES.

UM, MA'AM,

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UM, OKAY, I I HAVE A COUPLE OF UH, COMMENTS.

OH, I HAVE TWO MORE QUESTIONS.

OH, I'M SORRY.

PLEASE GO AHEAD, .

UM, ANOTHER QUESTION.

UM, HAS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT REVIEWED AND APPROVED ALL EMERGENCY RESPONSE PLANS FOR THIS FACILITY? AND THEY'RE IN AGREEMENT WITH ALL THAT? WE, WE HAVE SEVERAL, WELL, MULTIPLE CONDITIONS RELATED TO FIRE, INCLUDING THE REQUIREMENT FOR AN EMERGENCY OPERATIONS PLAN.

UH, THEY NEED TO PAY FOR TRAINING FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO USE THE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM.

THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT, THIS PROJECT HAS, HAS BEEN AROUND FOR MULTIPLE YEARS, AND ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT WAS DONE WAS COORDINATED WITH THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, INCLUDING THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

SO WE, WE DID SPEAK WITH FIRE EARLIER, THE FIRE MARSHAL, AND WE ARE, WE ARE CONFIDENT THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO REVIEW IT AND PUT THE APPROPRIATE CONDITIONS ON WHICH OUR CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL SHOULD THE PROJECT BE APPROVED.

UM, THANK YOU.

AND THEN ANOTHER QUESTION, UH, A FEW OF THE SPEAKERS DID BRING UP THE, UM, TRIBAL CULTURAL RESOURCES.

UM, WHEN YOU GUYS DID THE EIR, DID YOU SPEAK TO ANY TRIBAL MEMBERS AND SEE WHAT KIND OF, UH, ARTIFACTS MAY BE IN THIS LAND? SO ONE OF THE MANDATORY REQUIREMENTS OF THE SE A PROCESS IS TO NOTIFY LOCAL TRIBES.

UM, I THINK THERE'RE, THERE'S QUITE A FEW, UM, 10 TO 15, UH, WITHIN THE SAN DIEGO AREA.

AND SO THEY'RE ALL MAILED NOTICES OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENTS THAT ARE TO BE POSTED FOR PUBLIC REVIEW.

UM, AND THEN SHOULD THEY REQUEST, AND WE CAN PROVIDE FURTHER INFORMATION, UM, THERE WAS NO SPECIFIC REQUEST MADE BY ANY OF THE LOCAL TRIBES AS FAR AS A SPECIFIC MITIGATION OR CONCERN.

UH, THEY JUST WANTED TO BE AWARE OF THE PROJECT.

UM, WHAT STAFF DISCUSSED IN THE PRESENTATION WAS THAT ONLY BASED ON THE TYPE OF SOILS THAT ARE AT THE PROJECT SITE, UM, TO HAVE MONITORING, SHOULD THERE BE SOMETHING, UH, WITHIN THE GROUND.

BUT THERE'S NO IDENTIFIED RESOURCES AT THE MOMENT THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE AFFECTED BY THIS SITE OR THIS PROJECT.

UM, MAYBE LET ME SIT DOWN.

FOR THE MOMENT.

UM, THE ACHILLES HEEL THAT I SEE IN THIS IS THE, THE TRUCKS THAT ARE TO TRANSPORT, IF I UNDERSTAND IT CORRECTLY, UM, THEY WILL BE BURNING PETROLEUM BASED DIESEL.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

THE LOCOMOTIVES THAT BRING IT DOWN WILL ALSO BE BURNING PETROLEUM BASED DIESEL.

IS THAT CORRECT? STAFF? YES.

SO THERE, YEAH, BEAR WITH ME.

BEAR WITH ME.

WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THREE OPERATORS HERE.

SO WE HAVE BNSF, WHICH IS AN INDEPENDENT RAILWAY MM-HMM .

THEY CONTROL, UH, THE RAIL TRAFFIC.

UM, THE TYPES OF LOCOMOTIVES USE IS NOT CONTROLLED BY THE APPLICANT.

UM, IT IS OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT IT'S PRIMARILY DIESEL BASED OR, YOU KNOW, CARBON BASED PETRO PETROLEUM BASED DIESELS.

UM, AND THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE, UH, THE APPLICANT TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, IS USING THIRD PARTY VENDORS TO TAKE THE FUEL FROM THE TRANSLOAD FACILITY OR TRANSFER FACILITY TO LOCAL GAS STATIONS OR OTHER POINTS.

NO, I, I UNDERSTAND THAT.

SO THEY WILL, I GUESS MY, MY, WHAT I'M GETTING AT, IT SEEMS IRONIC THAT THE LOCOMOTIVES AND THE TANKER TRUCKS WILL BURN PETROLEUM BASED DIESEL FUEL WHEN THEY'RE TRANSPORTING RENEWABLE FUELS.

THAT'S SORT OF THE POINT IS TO REPLACE IT.

EXCUSE LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, PLEASE THAT OKAY.

IF, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND, AND ADDRESS THAT, BECAUSE I, I SEE THAT AS THE, THE BIG HANGING POINT HERE.

THE, UH, TANKER TRUCKS AND THE LOCOMOTIVES TO BURN AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

UH, IF, IF THAT IS NOT ADDRESSED, I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.

BUT IT, I THINK THAT HAS TO BE ADDRESSED POSSIBLY WITH A CONDITION OF APPROVAL THAT WOULD REQUIRE EACH OF THE PARTIES, IRRESPECTIVE OF YOUR CONTRACTS TO ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT, UH, BURNING RENEWABLE FUELS AND GETTING PREFERABLY.

BUT I, I AM NOT SURE THE INDUSTRY'S THERE YET.

I, I AGREE WITH YOU.

THE INDUSTRY ISN'T THERE YET, AT LEAST NOT IN THIS COUNTRY.

I KNOW IN EUROPE IT IS IN OTHER PLACES, BUT, UH, YOU NEED, I THINK, UH, THERE NEEDS TO BE A CONDITION OF APPROVAL THAT REQUIRES

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UH, THE, THE, UH, BIODEGRADABLE FUELS THAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY TRANSPORTING.

UM, WHAT SAY YOU ALL, WELL, WE ARE OPEN TO WHATEVER CONDITIONS WE NEED TO ABIDE BY FOR THE CITY.

AS YOU SAID, WE'RE NOT IN PR TO BE A CONTRACT WITH THEM.

AND IF THAT'S A CONDITION THAT'S ON THIS PROJECT, AND THE PEOPLE WHO ARE CAN DECIDE WHETHER THEY WANT TO HAVE US MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT OR NOT.

BUT I WOULD ALSO SAY THE ASSUMPTION, I ALSO DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S TRUE THAT THE ASSUMPTION TODAY IS THAT THE TRUCK'S DELIVERING THESE FUELS TODAY BECAUSE THIS, THESE ARE NOT NEW DELIVERIES.

THE TRAIN'S COMING THROUGH HERE AND THE TRUCK'S COMING THROUGH HERE TODAY.

I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT FUEL THEY'RE BURNING.

MM-HMM .

I DON'T KNOW.

AND I DON'T THINK ANYONE HERE DOES.

SO, ALTHOUGH THAT COMMENT WAS MADE THAT THERE'LL BE DIESEL BURNING TRUCKS, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD SAY STATISTICALLY, IF YOU JUST LOOK AT THE MARKET OVERALL, THEY, THEY COULD, BUT NO COMMENTS LIKE THAT.

DON'T THINK, I DON'T THINK THERE'S, THERE'S ANY EVIDENCE NOT APPROPRIATE IN THE RECORD OR OTHERWISE TO SAY WHAT FUELS THEY'RE BURNING.

AND I'M NOT AWARE OF WHAT THAT IS.

NO.

BUT WE, WE CAN ACTUALLY PUT CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.

UM, I KNOW, YES, SIR.

IT, IT, IT MAY BE BEYOND YOUR ABILITY TO ADDRESS IT RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW, BUT I DON'T WANT TO SEE THE EXCUSE OF OH, WE CONTRACT WITH THEM AND WE HAVE NO SWAY OVER THEM.

NO, WE HAVE TO GET TO THE POINT OF THAT.

AND THEY HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT IF THEY WANT THIS, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO START USING THOSE FUELS.

IT'S ALSO, AS I RECALL, A, UH, UH, NOW LAW BY THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA THAT WE WILL BE TRANSITIONING TO NON PETROLEUM BASED FUELS AND VEHICLES BY 2035, I THINK IT IS, 2035.

SO, AND THAT'S WHAT THESE FUELS ARE.

RIGHT.

AND THEN THAT, THAT'S WHY I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS PROJECT HERE.

BUT THIS IS, LIKE I SAID EARLIER, AN ACHILLES HEEL YES.

FOR YOUR PROJECT.

UH, SO, UH, THERE HAS TO BE SOME COMMITMENT FROM, ON YOUR BEHALF ON BNSF BEHALF AND ALL THE OTHER PLAYERS IN THIS PROJECT TO TRANSITION THE LOCOMOTIVES AND THE TANKER TRUCKS TO THESE BIODEGRADABLE FUELS SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE KIND OF AIR POLLUTION IN NATIONAL CITY THAT, UH, WOULD BE PRODUCED BY PETROLEUM BASED DIESELS BEING BURNED HERE.

IF THOSE CONDITIONS ARE IN OUR PERMITS, THEN, UH, NOT, NOT THE ONE NO, I SAID IF, IF YOU SAID YOU COULD DO, I'M JUST RESPONDING TO YOUR COMMENT.

IF, IF THEY ARE IN THE PERMITS YES, SIR, THEN THEY WILL HAVE TO ABIDE BY THEM.

BUT I, CAN YOU GET, UH, CAN YOU CONVINCE BNSF TO DO THAT? BNSF WILL DECIDE BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE BURNING WHAT? NO, NO.

YOU SEE THAT? I DON'T WANT THAT.

I AGREE.

NO, NO, NO, NO.

THE POINT IS, THEY, THEY CAN'T, THEY CAN'T DO BUSINESS HERE IF THAT'S A CONDITION OF THE PERMIT.

RIGHT.

I MEAN, IF IT'S A CONDITION OF THE PERMIT IT'SS LEGAL REQUIREMENT.

AND, AND I, I DON'T WANNA BE FACETIOUS, I WOULD BE FLATTERED TO THINK THAT I COULD CONVINCE A CLASS ONE RAILROAD OF, OF ANYTHING.

I KNOW, I KNOW.

WE'VE ALL ALREADY, AND, AND THEY ARE.

THEY, THEY ARE, THEY HAVE BEEN WONDERFUL PARTNERS MM-HMM .

AND, UM, AND WE HELP THEM.

AND, UH, WE, WE VALUE THAT.

BUT I, I ALSO, I'M NOT BEING DISRESPECTFUL AND I'M NOT DODGING YOU.

I I DON'T WANNA SPEAK FOR THE RAILROAD.

WHAT I CAN SPEAK FOR IS IF THERE ARE CONDITIONS FOR THIS FACILITY, EVERYONE WILL NEED TO ABIDE BY THEM.

WE HAVE A POLICY OF 10 TH WELL, WE CALL, IT'S BAD MATH.

I ACTUALLY FOUGHT IT FOR A WHILE, BUT I SAW THE VALUE.

WE CALL IT 10000% COMPLIANCE.

REPRESENTATIVES, UH, KNOWS.

AND THAT MEANS A HUNDRED PERCENT COMPLIANCE A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE TIME.

THAT'S HOW WE SET UP OUR SYSTEMS. AND IF THAT'S IT, THEN THAT'S WHAT'LL HAVE TO HAPPEN ON THESE PROJECTS.

THANK YOU, MR. FERRA KING FOR THE OKAY.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

I'M SORRY.

I GUESS ANOTHER, I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS FOR STAFF OR IF THIS IS FOR THE APPLICANT.

UM, ARE WE AWARE OF HOW MANY, UM, FACILITIES IN NATIONAL CITY, UH, SERVE BIOFUEL, UM, CURRENTLY AND HOW MANY TRUCKS COME IN AND OUT OF NATIONAL CITY, PARTICULARLY NOT SAN DIEGO REGION, UM, JUST NATIONAL CITY.

UM, HOW MANY TRUCK TRIPS DO WE HAVE DAILY THAT COME IN AND OUT DELIVERING BIOFUEL? UM, THAT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO TELL.

I DON'T THINK WE KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION UNLESS ONE OF THE, UH, APPLICANT'S

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BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE DEALING WITH A SPECIFIC PROJECT.

NOT EVERYTHING THAT'S COMING INTO THE CITY CURRENTLY.

WE'RE JUST, UM, OBVIOUSLY THE, THE BIG CHANGE HERE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE, ALL OF THE TRUCK MILES BETWEEN LA AND SAN DIEGO ARE BEING, UH, RE ARE BEING REMOVED.

UM, THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE AN IMPACT, BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT THE IMPACT OVERALL EVERYWHERE IS GONNA BE REDUCED.

YOU KNOW, IS THAT, DOES THAT MEAN THERE'S, THERE'S NO LOCAL IMPACT? OF COURSE.

IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SAY.

WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET TO THE, UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CONDITIONS, WE CAN PUT CONDITIONS ON A PROJECT, BUT, UH, IF THEY'RE UNTENABLE, IT'S KIND OF A HOLLOW GESTURE.

AND OF COURSE, WE WANNA DO THE RIGHT THING.

UH, AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT STAFF IS ABLE TO, TO REGULATE THOSE CONDITIONS AS WELL.

IF THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T GO AND CHECK A TRAIN AND SEE WHAT KIND OF FUEL IT HAS.

UM, WE DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY OF STAFF LEVEL OR AT THE CITY TO DO THAT, UNFORTUNATELY.

UM, BUT YOU KNOW, THE APPLICANT IS, HAS BEEN VERY HONEST WITH US SO FAR, AND WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE BETTING ON THAT AS WELL.

I MEAN, I KNOW HOW THAT'S GONNA BE TAKEN, BUT WE CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH.

UM, BUT YOU KNOW, WHAT THE APPLICANT IS SAYING IS THAT THEY'RE AGREE TO ANY CONDITIONS THAT YOU PUT ON A PROJECT.

BUT IF IT'S UNTENABLE AND THEY GO TO BNSF AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT YOU GOTTA DO, AND THEY SAY, SORRY, BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA DO THAT, THEN THEY'RE SAYING THAT THEY'RE NOT GONNA OPERATE OR WON'T BE ABLE TO, TO HAVE A, A, AN AGREEMENT.

AND WE'RE TAKING 'EM ON THEIR WORD ON THAT.

SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.

ARE YOU AWARE OF THE, UM, UH, THE, WHAT EXACTLY IS BEING PROPOSED FOR THE, UH, USE NON-USE OF THE PETROLEUM BASED FUELS BY 2035? DOES THAT INCLUDE RAILROADS? WELL, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TRAINS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE SUBJECT TO, TO FEDERAL REGULATIONS MORE THAN THEY ARE STATE REGULATIONS.

AND IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO MAKE CHANGES TO THAT, THAT INDUSTRY'S BEEN AROUND SINCE THE BIRTH OF THE NATION AND OR NOT THE BIRTH OF THE NATION, BUT, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST A HUNDRED YEARS.

SO WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE CAN, WE ONLY, WE ONLY KNOW SO MUCH, SO, YOU KNOW, WILL WE TRY TO CHANGE THEM? SURE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, IN MY ESTIMATION, AND HAVING DEALT WITH WITH BNSF AND A TSF AND, AND OTHER, UH, TRAIN OR, UH, RAILROADS IN THE PAST, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT.

I GOTTA TALK TO SOMEONE IN A DIFFERENT STATE.

SO, I MEAN, WE CAN, WE CAN DO WHAT WE CAN AT A LOCAL LEVEL, BUT IF IT'S NOT GONNA BE TENABLE WITH THE, WITH THEM, THEN WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE BARKING UP THE WRONG TREE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UH, COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ, WE TALKED ABOUT NO, GO AHEAD.

THIS IS, UH, THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT GOING ON, AND I'M TRYING TO JUST FRAME IT IN MY MIND.

AND THIS IS MORE FOR STAFF.

SO ALL THE STATE REQUIREMENTS, MEANING THE AIR QUALITY AND ALSO THE WATER QUALITY, AND ALSO, I GUESS CQA, THEY'VE BEEN MET EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN ASKED BY THE STATE FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, ALL THE ENVIRONMENTAL REQUIREMENTS THAT THIS STATE PRETTY MUCH HAS PUT OUT.

SURE.

WELL, WE'VE OBVIOUSLY, AS YOU SAY, WE HAVE, WE HAVE MULTIPLE THINGS GOING ON HERE.

WE HAVE MULTIPLE, IT'S GROOVY.

UM, WE HAVE, UH, MULTIPLE PLANS, MULTIPLE POLICIES, MULTIPLE JURISDICTIONS DEALING WITH THIS.

WE'VE GOT TWO SEPARATE PROJECTS, OR TWO SEPARATE ACTIONS HERE.

ONE IS CQA, ONE IS THE PROJECT ITSELF.

ONE IS STATEWIDE, ONE IS IS LOCAL.

ALTHOUGH, OF COURSE, CQA AFFECTS EVERYTHING LOCALLY AND OTHERWISE, THE STANDARD FOR THIS, UH, FOR C EQUA IS, IS BASED ON, YOU KNOW, THE REGION, SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA AT THE SMALLEST, MOST LIKELY.

SO WHILE WE ARE USING DATA LOCALLY, THE, UM, THE, THE LEVEL OF ANALYSIS IS, IS MORE BROAD.

UH, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE HELD TO.

THAT IS THE LEGAL STANDARD.

SO AS FAR AS WHETHER OR NOT THE, THE CQA DETERMINATION OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT WITH MITIGATION MEASURES IS APPROPRIATE, STAFF DOES THINK THAT THAT DOCUMENT IS, HAS BEEN, UH, ADDRESSED PROPERLY.

WE HAVE NOTICED THAT ONCE WE DID, UH, OTHER, ANOTHER NOTICING AS FAR AS THE MND BEFORE, WHICH WAS QUITE SIMILAR, WE HAVE AT OUR LOCAL STAFF AND ATTORNEYS AND EVERYONE ELSE LOOK AT THE DOCUMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OUR RESPECTIVE SECTIONS MAKES SENSE.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE ARE CONFIDENT THAT THAT, THAT EIR SPEAKS THE TRUTH.

BUT AS I SAY, AS I SAID EARLIER, UM, THAT DOESN'T MEAN TO SAY THAT THERE IS NO IMPACT LOCALLY.

OF COURSE, THERE IS A LOCAL IMPACT, BUT WE'RE DEALING WITH A STATE LEVEL DOCUMENT.

SO WE'VE GOT TWO THINGS HERE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE EIR.

WE'RE CONFIDENT THAT THAT'S, THAT SHOULD BE CERTIFIED.

AS FAR AS EVERYTHING ELSE THAT COMES DOWN TO THE LOCAL, UH, GENERAL PLAN, THE SERP AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

ALTHOUGH, AS, UH, MR. WELCH MENTIONED EARLIER, THE SERP, WHILE WE WERE PART OF THAT, WE ARE SIGNATORIES TO THAT.

WE HELPED DEVELOP IT.

IT'S NOT A, UH, A RULING DOCUMENT.

IT'S AN ADVISORY DOCUMENT.

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DO TAKE IT SERIOUSLY.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND ULTIMATELY THE CITY COUNCIL TO TAKE INTO, INTO A, INTO ACCOUNT WHEN LOOKING AT THE COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT AND THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

SO I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.

IF NOT, I'D BE HAPPY TO.

NO, I, I LIKE HOW YOU OUTLINED IT.

'CAUSE THERE WAS JUST SO MUCH COMING AT ME, AND I LIKE HOW YOU PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE.

THANKS.

MEANING STATE VETTED IT.

NOW WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE LOCAL LEVEL AS FAR AS, UH, WHAT THE GUIDING DOCUMENTS, IF WE'RE GETTING TO APPROVE THOSE TWO QUESTIONS.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM, UH, ANY OF THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS? OKAY.

HAVING HEARD ALL COMMENTS FROM MEMBERS OF THE STAFF AND THE PUBLIC ON THIS ITEM, IS THERE A PLANNING COMMISSIONER WISHING TO BRING A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY, UH, VICE CHAIR CASTLE AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

BEING THE MAKER OF THE MOTION OF VICE CHAIR CASTLE HAS THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? NO COMMENT.

UH, IF THERE IS NO FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE, THE MOTION, THE COMMISSION WILL NOW VOTE ELECTRONICALLY.

I HEREBY CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

OH, I'M SORRY.

UH, MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE DECLARE THE VOTE.

THE MOTIONS, UH, PROVED UNANIM.

ANY COMMISSIONER PRESENT? THANK YOU.

I HEREBY CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING COMMISSIONERS ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? VICE CHAIR CASTLE.

I THINK WE HAVE HEARD A LOT OF TESTIMONY, UM, FROM THE RESIDENTS TODAY.

I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU COMING OUT.

UM, AND I, I THINK THE, THE UNION PEOPLE LEFT ALREADY, BUT THANK EVERYBODY FOR COMING OUT AND PARTICIPATING IN THE, UM, THE PROCESS AND, UM, HEARING EVERYTHING ALONG WITH US AND REVIEWING THE INFORMATION AND JUST KIND OF, UM, LOOKING OVER EVERYTHING.

THERE'S DEFINITELY SOME CONCERNS HERE.

UM, MY SON ALSO HAS ASTHMA.

UM, MY HUSBAND GREW UP HERE.

HE HAS ASTHMA.

UM, IT'S, IT'S PART OF, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE, UM, ENVIRONMENTAL RACISM THAT HAPPENS HERE IN NATIONAL CITY.

AND, UM, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DEFINITELY NEED TO, UM, STAND UP FOR.

AND WE NEED TO, UM, LOOK, LOOK AT WITH, WITH, WITH LENSES.

NOW, IF THIS WERE ELECTRIC TRUCKS THAT WERE TAKING THIS BIOFUEL EVERYWHERE, I WOULD PROBABLY BE ALL FOR IT.

YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THE WAY CALIFORNIA'S GOING, EVERYBODY KNOWS I PERSONALLY DRIVE AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE.

I BELIEVE IN, IN ELEC ELECTRIFYING AND THE BIOFUELS, AND I BELIEVE IN CLIMATE CHANGE.

UM, IT'S REAL.

AND I JUST CANNOT SEE PUTTING, UM, OUR CHILDREN, OUR RESIDENTS, OUR TEACHERS AND EVERYBODY INTO A POSITION WHERE THEY'RE HAVING TO GO TO THE DOCTORS.

AND ONCE AGAIN, WE'VE GOT ADDITIONAL ASTHMA AND OTHER, OTHER THINGS THAT ARE HA ALLERGIES, WHICH MY SON HAS ECZEMA AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

SO, UM, I MEAN, WE KNOW THAT VERY WELL AS A COMMUNITY.

AND I WOULD NOT PERSONALLY WANT TO WALK AROUND AND GO TO THE GROCERY STORE BECAUSE I KNOW ALL OF YOU IN HERE, UM, AND SEE YOU IN THE GROCERY STORE.

UM, WITH, WITH, WITH, WITHOUT, UM, HAVING GOOD CONSCIENCE AND SAYING THAT I STOOD UP FOR NOT ONLY MY CHILD, BUT EVERYBODY ELSE'S CHILD IN HERE TOO.

UM, SO I'M GOING TO MOVE TO DENY THIS PROJECT.

I THINK IF, UM, WE WERE TO PUT, UH, APPROVE IT WITH CONDITIONS OF, OF, UH, MAKING THE, UM, THE, THE TRAIN BE BASED OFF OF BIOFUEL OR, UM, SOMETHING ELSE.

IT'S, IT'S BASICALLY THE SAME THING AS DENYING IT.

SO I MOVED TO DENY, UM, BASED OFF OF, AND I HAVE ONE, UH, BEFORE, BEFORE YOU, UH, I HAVE SOMETHING ELSE THAT I NEED TO TALK ABOUT HERE.

OF, OKAY.

UM, THERE ARE TWO RESOLUTIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS AGENDA ITEM, UH, THAT WILL REQUIRE TWO SEPARATE MOTIONS MM-HMM .

THERE'S A MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION THAT WOULD, WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE FIRST RESOLUTION, WHICH IS FOR THE EIR CERTIFICATION OF THE FINAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT.

UH, SO THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS, UH, REGARDING THE FIRST,

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SO IT'S NOT JUST, UM, DENYING WE CAN'T, WELL, I DON'T KNOW, UH, MAYBE THE ATTORNEY.

SO JUST TO CLARIFY, THERE'S TWO, TWO RESOLUTIONS.

THE FIRST RESOLUTION IS TO CERTIFY THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT.

THAT IS JUST SAYING THAT THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT WAS DRAFTED CONSISTENT WITH CQA AND THE CQA REQUIREMENTS.

IT DOES NOT APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE THE PROJECT.

SO IF YOU WERE TO CERTIFY THE EIR SAYING THAT IT WAS DRAFTED CONSISTENT WITH CQA, THEN YOU COULD MAKE A MOTION, A SEPARATE MOTION TO DENY THE PROJECT.

SHOULD THE COMMISSION CHOOSE TO DO THAT, YOU DO NOT NEED TO DENY BOTH OF THEM.

THE CERTIFICATION IS JUST APPROVING THAT THE DOCUMENT WAS DRAFTED CONSISTENT WITH THE CQA REQUIREMENTS, AND THAT THE AGENCY REVIEWED THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS AND DRAFTED MITIGATION.

SO IT WAS JUST BASED ON THE CQA REQUIREMENTS UNDER THE LAW.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

UH, EVEN THOUGH THE C THE, THE REPORT WAS WITH THE APPROVAL AND THE CONDITIONS OF CQA, WHAT IF WE DON'T AGREE, EVEN THOUGH THAT REPORT WAS ACCURATE, EVEN THOUGH I DON'T AGREE.

SO THE CERTIFICATION ISN'T THE CONTENTS OF THE EIR, IT IS JUST CERTIFYING THAT THE LOCAL LEAD AGENCY DRAFTED IT CONSISTENT WITH THE RULES AND REQUIREMENTS OF CQA.

YOU'RE NOT AGREEING TO NECESSARILY THE CONTENTS OF IT, IT'S JUST THAT IT WAS DRAFTED, IT WAS REVIEWED BY THE AGENCY AND THAT IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF CQA, EVEN THOUGH I DON'T AGREE, EVEN THOUGH THEY DID, THEY GO, THEY WENT BY THE GUIDELINES.

HOWEVER, I DON'T AGREE WITH IT.

CORRECT.

CERTIFICATION OF AN EIR IS NOT SAYING ANYTHING TO THE CONTENTS OF THE EIR.

THE EIR IS AN, AN INFORMATIONAL DOCUMENT FOR THE LEAD AGENCY'S BENEFIT FOR MAKING DECISIONS.

SO YOU CAN CERTIFY THE EIR AND THEN MAKE A DECISION ON THE PROJECT SEPARATELY ON THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IN THE CDP.

BUT WON'T IT BE IN CONFLICT? IT WILL NOT BE IN CONFLICT.

SO YOU COULD ACTUALLY CERTIFY THE EIR BUT DENY THE PROJECT IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YES, CORRECT.

SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS JUST THE, THE EIR, UM, SO I'M MAKING A MOTION TO GO AHEAD AND CERTIFY THE EIR I'M APPROVING THAT THE EIR WAS DONE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE WAY THAT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO DO WAS CE QA.

IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WHAT IS INSIDE OF THE EIR IS ACTUAL OR CORRECT, OR I DON'T HAVE TO AGREE WITH THAT.

AND THAT IS CORRECT.

THAT'S THE FIRST MOTION? YES, THAT IS THE FIRST MOTION FOR THE EIR FOR THE RESOLUTION.

AND I MAKE THAT MOTION TO GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THE EIR TO CERTIFY TO THE ER TO CERTIFY.

TO CERTIFY.

UM, THEN, OKAY.

CAN WE PUT THAT UP ON THE BOARD NOW? YEAH.

UH, FOR, UM, THERE IS A MOTION TO CERTIFY THE EIR AND A SECOND BY.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY VICE CHAIR CASTLE AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ARMA TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 2025 DASH 13 A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY CALIFORNIA CERTIFYING A FINAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT FOR A PROPOSED FUEL TRANSFER FACILITY WITHIN BNSF RAILROAD RIGHT OF WAY.

AND THE BNSF OWNED PROPERTY LOCATED WEST OF THE 1800 BLOCK OF CLEVELAND AVENUE AND NORTH OF WEST 19TH STREET, NORTH OF THE, OF CIVIC FUELS FACILITY.

LLC.

THIS IS CASE FILE NUMBER, 2023 DASH THREE IS AND COVERS AP UH, ASSESSOR PARCEL NUMBERS 5 5 9 DASH 4 5 5 9 DASH 4 4 6 2 4 7 AND EIGHT.

ASSESSOR PARCEL NUMBER 5 5 9 DASH 4 5 5 5 9 DASH 7 6 2 5 5 9 DASH 0 9 1 DASH ZERO THREE AND 5 5 9 DASH 9 1 1.

WOW.

THERE WAS A LOT OF APNS THERE.

SO, UM, BEING THE MAKER OF THE MOTION, VICE CHAIR CASTLE HAS THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON THE MOTION.

NO COMMENT.

NO.

ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? OKAY.

WE WILL NOW VOTE ELECTRONICALLY ON CERTIFYING THE EIR.

THIS IS ONLY FOR CERTIFICATION OF THE EIRI HAVE QUESTION.

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AGAIN, I, SO THERE IS A QUESTION.

YEAH, I'M SORRY, BUT, OKAY.

BUT MOVING TO CERTIFY THE ERR AND THEN VOTING AGAINST THE PROJECT IS OKAY.

IF YOU, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANNA DO, JUST WANNA BE SURE.

MOTION CARRIED WITH COMMISSIONERS PRESENT.

OH, MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE DECLARE THE VOTE.

UM, IS THERE A MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION THAT WOULD LIKE TO BRING A MOTION TO EITHER ADOPT OR DENY THE SECOND RESOLUTION REGARDING THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND THE COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT? I MAKE A MOTION TO DENY.

I SECOND.

UM, COMMISSIONER ARMINTA.

UM, BEFORE WE VOTE, UM, I JUST WANTED, UH, I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY THAT WAS HERE.

UM, GRACIA .

I HEARD YOU.

UM, I WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT ALL OF US HERE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION WE'RE VOLUNTEERS.

WE DO THIS BECAUSE WE CARE.

SO, UM, AND THE APPLICANT REPRESENTATIVE, UH, AT THE BEGINNING OF HIS PRESENTATION MADE, UH, THREE BULLETS ON THE WHY THE PROJECT SHOULD BE APPROVED.

HIS THIRD ONE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BREAK THE CYCLE.

AND I WANT THAT TO BE MY, AND OUR NUMBER ONE, UM, THING IS TO BREAK THE CYCLE HERE IN NATIONAL CITY.

I, UH, I'M A TRANSPLANT.

I LIVE, I MOVED HERE IN 2013, AND I LOVE NATIONAL CITY BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF RICH HISTORY.

THERE WAS SO MANY RANCHES BEFORE NATIONAL CITY WAS A FIRST WITH THE RAILROADS WITH TUNA, YOU KNOW, WITH HAVING THE, THE NAVY HERE.

AND, UH, I DON'T WANT US TO BE THE FIRST IN, UM, REDUCING OUR HEALTH AND WELLNESS HERE.

SO LET US TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO BREAK THE CYCLE.

CAN WE HAVE, UH, OKAY.

UM, UH, DO WE HAVE A SECOND? AND THEN WE CAN DISCUSS.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ.

COMMISSIONER ARME.

UH, COMMISSIONER QUINONE, DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT ON, I JUST WANTED TO, UM, ALSO, FIRST OF ALL, I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY THAT CAME IN TONIGHT, EVEN THOUGH THERE WERE THE PEOPLE THAT WERE FOR IT, THE PEOPLE WHO WERE AGAINST IT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I REALLY LIKE TO SEE A LOT OF PARTICIPATION, ESPECIALLY IN SUCH A PROJECT LIKE THIS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING.

I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

AND THANK YOU AGAIN TO THE STAFF, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THIS WAS A REALLY HEAVY DUTY PROJECT, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AND ALSO, I ALSO AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER MENTIS.

IT'S TIME TO BREAK THE CYCLE.

EVERYBODY TALKS ABOUT NATIONAL CITY, THIS, NATIONAL CITY THAT, BUT YOU KNOW, I USED TO WORK AT SCHOOL AND I USED TO WORK WITH A LOT OF CHILDREN, AND I SAW WHAT THEY WENT THROUGH WITH ASTHMA.

AND IT'S A HORRIBLE THING WHEN KIDS HAVE ASTHMA, THEY CAN'T BREATHE.

HOW CAN THEY LEARN IF THEY CAN'T BREATHE? AND IT COSTS, AND, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A LOSS.

I MEAN, PEOPLE DON'T HAVE MONEY TO BE RUNNING AND TAKING THEIR KIDS TO THE DOCTOR EVERY FIVE MINUTES.

IT COSTS A LOT OF MONEY.

EVEN IF YOU HAVE INSURANCE, YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR COPAY, YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR TAXES AND ALL THAT OTHER STUFF.

IT'S, IT'S A LOT OF MONEY.

SO, YOU KNOW, NATIONAL CITY, IT'S ALWAYS SEEMS LIKE WE'RE THE DUMPING GROUND.

AND WHEN I WAS, PEOPLE WERE CALLING ME AND SAYING, HOW COME CHULA VISTA GETS GAYLORD, THE RESORT, THE BEAUTIFICATION, AND WE GET THE DUMPING GROUND.

AND I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER ARMA.

IT IS TIME AGAIN TO BREAK THE CYCLE.

AND, AND YOU KNOW, IT NOT ONLY AFFECTS THE WEST SIDE, BUT I THINK IT AFFECTS THE ENTIRE CITY, THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.

WE'RE AFFECTED BY ALL THAT.

ALL THOSE EMISSIONS, ALL THOSE FUELS THAT CAUSE CANCER.

WE'RE BREATHING THAT EVERY DAY.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT CAUSES CANCER IS THIS, IT'S ENVIRONMENTAL, IT'S THIS, IT'S THAT.

BUT WE DO KNOW WHAT CAUSES ASTHMA, AND THAT IS ALL THE THANK YOU.

POOR QUALITY OF AIR.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING ALL OF YOU TONIGHT.

WELL, I'D LIKE TO SAY THANKS TO EVERYONE THAT MADE IT OUT, ESPECIALLY, UH, MAR GARCIA.

SHE REALLY GOT TO ME AS FAR AS, UH,

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NATIONAL, UM, COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ, FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE WHO ARE NOT FLUENT IN SPANISH, PLEASE TRANSLATE .

OH MY GOD, WE HAVE THE TRANSLATOR.

COULD YOU PLEASE TRANSLATE WHAT MR. WHAT COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ JUST SAID, FOR THE BENEFIT OF NON-SPANISH SPEAKING PEOPLE? IS THE TRANSLATOR THERE? SORRY, MY HEART SPEAKS, CAN'T SHUT ME DOWN.

DID WE LOSE THE TRANSLATOR? I'M SORRY, ATTORNEY.

WE'LL HAVE TO GIVE HER UH, A MOMENT HERE.

UH, DID, CAN THE TRANSLATOR ACKNOWLEDGE THAT YOU ARE THERE AND, AND, UH, WORKING ON THE TRANSLATION? CHAIRMAN MILLER? ARE THEY THERE? WE'RE JUST TRYING TO WORK ON IT ON OUR END.

I, I THOUGHT .

SO WHAT I STARTED OFF WITH PRETTY MUCH SAYING IS THAT I THANK THE GENTLEMAN THAT CAME HERE BECAUSE THEY SHOWED US THE VALUE THAT OUR COMMUNITY HAS AND IT BROUGHT US TOGETHER.

YOU GUYS BROUGHT A PROPOSAL THAT WAS WELL THOUGHT OUT AND, AND EXECUTED.

I THANK YOU GUYS FOR THAT.

AND OF COURSE, IT SHOWED US THE VALUES WE HAVE.

AND WE'RE BACK TO BRINGS US TOGETHER.

I WANTED TO TAKE THANK, UH, MARGARITA THAT MADE ME REALIZE THAT WHAT SHE WAS SAYING WAS BASICALLY THAT WE WERE ELECTED, WHICH WE'RE NOT.

WE'RE ALL VOLUNTEERS AND WE'RE HERE ON OUR, ON OUR OWN RECOGNIZANCE AND WE'RE GOING OVER THESE ISSUES AND SEEING BOTH SIDES OF IT WRESTLING, GRAPPLING WITH THE IDEA AS FAR AS THAT GOES.

AND WHAT I, WHAT I ALSO SAID AT THE END, THAT GOT TO ME, AND THAT'S WHEN I WAS POURING MY HEART.

I'M SORRY IF YOU DIDN'T CATCH THAT.

IT WAS PRETTY MUCH THAT I WANNA SEE MORE MEN HERE.

EZ.

I AM ONE HERE.

SOMEBODY MADE A COMMENT.

LOOK AT THESE GENTLEMEN THAT MAKE OVER A HUNDRED.

THERE'S A LOT OF GENTLEMEN IN NATIONAL CITY THAT WE MAKE MORE THAN A HUNDRED, AND OUR SUITS ARE HEADING HANGING OUT IN OUR CLOSETS, SO THANK YOU.

DO WE STILL NEED THE TRANSLATION? NO.

NO.

SO, UH, LET'S SEE, WHERE WERE WE? CHAIR MILLER? UH, YEAH.

YES, COUNSEL.

SO FOR THE MOTION FOR DENIAL, UM, WE NEED TO MAKE FINDINGS FOR THAT DENIAL.

SO I KNOW STAFF HAS CREATED SOME, SO IF YOU COULD PLEASE BEFORE WE GO THAT WAY.

YES, THANK YOU.

UH, I WANNA MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION.

THE SECOND CONDITION OF APPROVAL, AND I THOUGHT I SAW THIS SOMEWHERE, BUT I COULDN'T FIND IT WHEN I WENT BACK TO LOOK, IS THAT THE APPLICANT AND OPERATOR AND THE, UH, RAILROAD COMPANY ARE LIMITED TO TRANSPORTING ONLY THE BIOFUELS THAT ARE LISTED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

UM, I WANNA MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION FOR APPROVAL WITH ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.

AND I SAY THIS BECAUSE I THINK THERE IS A WAY TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS OF THE COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO TO REDUCE THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS WITH THE LONG TRUCK TRIPS THAT ARE FROM LA AND FROM, UH, RIVERSIDE DOWN TO 15 AND DOWN TO FIVE TO SAN DIEGO COUNTY.

UM, THAT IS A CONCERN TO ME BECAUSE THAT STILL ADDS POLLUTION TO SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.

UH, AND I'M HOPING THAT THE CONDITIONS THAT I SUGGEST HERE WILL ALSO BE IN LINE WITH THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA'S GOALS TO HAVE, UH, REACH THE GOALS BY 2035.

UM, THE FIRST ONE IS, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, UH, THAT WITHIN A SPECIFIED TIMEFRAME, WITHIN THREE OR FIVE YEARS, WHATEVER WE MAY AGREE ON, THAT THE APPLICANT SHALL CONVERT ALL LOCOMOTIVES AND TANKER TRUCKS TO A BIODEGRADABLE FUEL OF THEIR CHOICE.

I DON'T CARE WHICH ONE IT IS, BUT THEY MUST NEVER FROM THAT POINT ON USE PETROLEUM BASED DIESEL OR GASOLINE.

UM,

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AND THAT THE, UH, TRANSPORT OF ANY PETROLEUM BASED FUELS IS PROHIBITED.

NO PETROLEUM-BASED FUELS SHALL EVER COME THROUGH THIS, UM, FUEL STATION, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF CERTAIN ADDITIVES, BECAUSE I DID UNDERSTAND THERE WERE ADDITIVES THAT WOULD GO INTO SOME OF THESE, UH, BIOFUELS THAT, UH, WOULD MAKE THEM BURN CLEANER OR WHATEVER.

AND I WANT TO INTRODUCE THOSE TWO CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.

UH, STAFF, YOU CAN CLEAN UP THE WORDING SO FAR AS ENFORCEMENT AND WHO WOULD PAY FOR THAT.

UM, OBVIOUSLY CONVERSION OF LOCOMOTIVES AND TRUCKS WILL BE AT THE COST AND AT THE EXPENSE OF THE, UM, UH, OPERATORS OF THOSE VEHICLES.

THE, UM, INSPECTION OF THE, UH, RAIL CARS WHEN THEY COME DOWN, WE MAY HAVE TO SET UP SOMETHING TO, UH, RANDOMLY GO OUT AND INSPECT RAIL CARS TO ENSURE THAT THEY ARE ACTUALLY TRANSPORTING THE BIOFUELS.

UM, AND ANY ADDITIONAL, UH, COSTS TO THAT INSPECTION MUST BE BORN BY THE APPLICANT AND THE, UM, OPERATORS AND NOT BY THE CITY AND THE TAXPAYERS.

SO THAT, THAT IS MY SECOND, UM, OR I'M SORRY, MY MOTION, UH, IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? OTHERWISE IT'S GONNA FAIL.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMM, UH, VICE CHAIR CASTLE, AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ARMA TO ADOPT RESOLUTION.

IS THE DENIAL RESOLUTION NUMBERED? I AM.

UM, THE FINDINGS FOR DENIAL IS, UH, THE PROPOSED FUEL TRANSFER FACILITY IS NOT DEEMED ESSENTIAL AND DESIRABLE TO THE PUBLIC CONVENIENCE AND WELFARE BECAUSE THE DELIVERY OF BIO BIOFUELS CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED THROUGH OTHER MEANS OF DELIVERY WITH FEWER AIR QUALITY IMPACTS TO RESIDENTS, WORKERS AND VISITORS TO THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY.

UH, AND ALSO GRANTING THE, ALSO DENYING, UH, GRANTING THE PERMIT WOULD CONSTITUTE A NUISANCE OR BE INJURIOUS OR DETRIMENTAL TO THE PUBLIC INTEREST, HEALTH, SAFETY, CONVENIENCE, OR WELFARE OR MATERIAL MATERIALLY INJURIOUS TO PERSONS PROPERTY OR IMPROVEMENTS IN THE VICINITY AND ZONE IN WHICH THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED.

BECAUSE IT WOULD INCREASE THE USE OF DIESEL POWERED TRUCKS IN A COMMUNITY ALREADY OVERBURDENED BY EMISSIONS AND FURTHER EXACERBATE AIR QUALITY ISSUES AND POTENTIAL BENEFITS OF THE PROJECT.

THE POTENTIAL BENEFITS OF THE PROJECT DO NOT OUTWEIGH THESE PROBLEMS. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADD INTO HERE, UM, IN A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH THAT I HAD DONE IS, UH, THIS IS OUT OF THE, UM, PART THREE OF THE GENERAL PLAN ELEMENTS HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE.

THIS IS PART OF THE NATIONAL CITY GENERAL PLAN.

UM, SO POLICY HEJ 1.5, THIS STATES ASSURE POTENTIALLY AFFECTED COMMUNITY RESIDENTS, THAT THEY HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO PARTICIPATE IN DECISIONS THAT AFFECT THEIR ENVIRONMENT AND HEALTH, AND THAT THE CONCERNS OF ALL PARTICIPANTS INVOLVED WILL BE CONSIDERED IN THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS.

I WANTED JUST TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW THAT PART OF THE POLICY IS WHAT I'M IMPLEMENTING RIGHT NOW.

THEN LET ME START OVER HERE.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY VICE CHAIR CASTLE.

SORRY, MR. CHAIR.

I'M SORRY, COULD I INTERRUPT FOR JUST A SECOND? AS A POINT OF ORDER, I HEARD THE, UH, FINDINGS FOR DENIAL OF THE CUP, BUT NOT THE FINDING OF DENIAL FOR THE CDP IN RESOLUTION 20 25 14 IS THE MAKER OF THE MOTION ALSO, UH, INCLUDING THAT FINDING FOR DENIAL FOR THE CDP.

WELL, UH, THERE, THERE, THERE IS A RESOLUTION FOR DENIAL, UH, 2025 DASH ZERO FOUR.

AND THAT SHOULD BE 14, BY THE WAY.

NO, THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT RESOLUTIONS.

ZERO

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FOUR IS A TYPO.

WE, WE HAVE THE SAME, IT'S 14 FOR APPROVAL.

14 FOR DENIAL.

WE DON'T HAVE TWO SEPARATE NUMBERS.

OH, IT'S ONE OF THE OTHER GETS APPROVED.

OH, OKAY.

BECAUSE I HAVE 14, I HAVE ZERO FOUR, SO IT'S, I'LL GO FIX THAT.

THERE ARE THREE, THREE FINDINGS FOR DENIAL TOTAL.

TWO FOR THE CUP AND ONE FOR THE CDP.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WAS ALL PART OF THE MOTION.

UM, IT, IT, I CAN ADD THAT IN THERE.

THE GRANT AND ALSO ADDITIONAL FINDING, UH, THE GRANTING OF SAID COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT IS INCONSISTENT WITH APPLICABLE PLANS AND ORDINANCES WITHIN THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY BECAUSE IT WILL INCREASE THE NUMBER OF DIESEL POWERED TRUCKS WITHIN THE AB 617 PORTSIDE COMMUNITY.

THE INCREASED EMISSIONS FROM THE PROJECT WOULD BE IN CONFLICT WITH THE GOALS OF THE COMMUNITY EMISSIONS REDUCTION PLAN SERP TO REDUCE EMISSIONS AND IMPROVE AIR QUALITY IN ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE COMMUNITIES.

THE PROJECT IS ALSO INCONSISTENT WITH POTENTIAL LAND USE DECISIONS AS REQUIRED BY THE HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE ELEMENT OF THE GENERAL PLAN.

OKAY, SO I'M GONNA START, I ASSUME THE SECOND DEGREES.

THE SECOND DEGREES WITH THAT? YES.

OKAY, LET ME START OVER THEN.

UH, WE HAVE A MOTION BY VICE CHAIR CASTLE AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ARMENTA TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 2025 DASH 14 A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY CALIFORNIA, DENYING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT FOR A PROPOSED FUEL TRANSFER TRANSFER FACILITY WITHIN BNSF RAILROAD RIGHT OF WAY, AND BNSF OWNED PROPERTY LOCATED WEST OF THE 1800 BLOCK OF CLEVELAND AVENUE AND NORTH OF WEST 19TH STREET NORTH OF CIVIC CENTER DRIVE.

APPLICANT SAN DIEGO CLEAN FUELS FACILITY LLC CASE FILE NUMBER 2023 DASH ZERO THREE C-U-P-C-D-P IS THE ASSESSOR PARCEL NUMBERS ARE 5 59 DASH 0 14 5 5 9 DASH 4 4 6 4 7 AND 4 8 5 5 9 DASH 0 4 5 2 5 5 9 DASH 0 7 6 0 2 5 5 9 DASH 0 9 1 DASH ZERO THREE AND 5 5 9 DASH 0 9 1 1.

BEING THE MAKER OF THE MOTION, VICE CHAIR CASTLE HAS THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON THE MOTION.

ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? I WOULD JUST LIKE TO, UM, SAY I AGREE WITH ALL THE COMMISSIONERS UP HERE AND I THINK THAT WE HAVE THE RESIDENTS IN MIND AND I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU ALL TO KEEP IN MIND, UM, AS YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR PRESENTER, UM, EXPLAIN TO US TODAY, IF IT'S NOT THIS PROJECT, IT'S GONNA BE ANOTHER ONE.

SO OUR FIGHT IS NOT DONE AND NATIONAL CITY IS NOT A DUMPING GROUND.

WE WILL NOT STAND FOR THIS ANYMORE AND, UM, WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO PUSH.

SO AS LONG AS WE STAND TOGETHER, WE CAN DO MIRACULOUS THINGS.

THANK YOU GUYS.

OKAY, SO WE WILL NOW VOTE ELECTRONICALLY.

MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE DECLARE THE VOTE.

MOTION CARRIED.

FIVE YESES.

ONE NO.

AND ONE COMMISSIONER ABSENT AND OH, I'M SORRY, FOUR.

IT'S VERY LATE.

UM, COMMIT, UH, CHAIR MILLER, JUST FOR THE RECORD, BECAUSE YOU VOTED NO, WE DO NEED YOUR REASONING.

NO, I'M HAPPY TO EXPLAIN MY VOTE.

UH, AS I SAID EARLIER THAT I FEEL THAT THERE IS A COMPROMISE HERE.

MY FEAR IS THAT WITH A DENIAL OF THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, WHICH I THINK COULD HAVE BEEN FIXED, THAT A PERMITTED LAND USE WILL END UP ON THIS PROPERTY THAT IS ACTUALLY SIGNIFICANTLY WORSE THAN THIS PROJECT.

AND, AND THERE WOULD BE NO SAY FROM THE PUBLIC ON THAT.

UM, THAT IS THE DANGER OF DENYING THIS PROJECT TO ME.

UM, BUT THAT IS WHY.

SO THERE'S NOBODY BE HERE TO RESIST IT.

NO, BUT, BUT MY POINT IS, IF IT IS A PERMITTED LAND USE, YOU WON'T BE HERE BECAUSE IT IS PERMITTED BY, RIGHT.

THERE WILL BE NO CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

THAT'S MY POINT.

BUT THAT'S, WHOOPS, THAT'S THE DECISION NOW.

SO, UM, THAT'S THE REASON I VOTED.

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NO, THANK YOU.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

OKAY, SO THAT CONCLUDES THIS.

NOW, UM, FOR THOSE INVOLVED HERE, UH, AND FOR YOUR OWN INFORMATION, THIS CAN BE APPEALED TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND TO THE COASTAL COMMISSION, UH, FOR THOSE INVOLVED.

IF ANYBODY FEELS THAT THEY NEED ANY PARTY, AGGRIEVED PARTY FEELS THEY NEED TO DO THAT, THEY CAN, UM, WORK WITH STAFF TO WORK ON AN APPEAL.

I THINK YOU HAVE 10 DAYS.

THAT'S THE APPEAL PERIOD.

WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON NOW VERY QUICKLY TO STAFF REPORTS, UH, DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY.

SO, OKAY.

SO THAT CONCLUDES OUR DISCUSSION.

WE'RE GONNA BE MOVING ON NOW TO OTHER BUSINESS.

THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT AND FOR, UM, PARTICIPATING IN OUR DEMOCRACY.

OKAY,

[STAFF REPORTS]

UH, NOTHING TO REPORT.

I'M JUST HAPPY TO BE BACK AND WORKING WITH ALL THE AGAIN.

UH, I'M SORRY, THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS STILL IN SESSION.

COULD YOU PLEASE TAKE YOUR CONVERSATIONS ALL THE WAY OUTSIDE? I RESPECTFULLY ASK.

UH, I'M SORRY.

COULD YOU PLEASE REPEAT THAT, COUNSEL? YES, I HAVE NOTHING TO REPORT.

I'M HAPPY TO BE BACK AND UNTIL WORK WITH YOU ALL ONCE AGAIN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND CONGRATULATIONS ON THE BIRTH OF YOUR BABY SON.

UH, ACTING DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.

UH, THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIR, VICE CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION STAFF AND THE PUBLIC.

AND FOR EVERYONE THAT'S, UH, STILL HERE, I WANTED TO ECHO THE SENTIMENT OF THE, THE COMMISSION TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THE PARTICIPATION TONIGHT.

OBVIOUSLY THAT WAS A, A LENGTHY HEARING, AND IN PARTICULAR, I'D LIKE TO THANK MY STAFF, ESPECIALLY, UH, DAVID WELCH, WHO IS BEEN HERE, IS WORKING ON THIS PROJECT FOR SO LONG.

HE'S NOT EVEN AN ASSOCIATE PLANNER ANYMORE, HE IS NOW A PRINCIPAL PLANNER .

SO CONGRATULATIONS, .

NOT ONLY WE, WE HAVE A BABY IN THE MIX, BUT WE'VE ALSO HAD A, WE HAVE A PROMOTION, SO I WANTED TO CONGRATULATE DAVID ON THAT, BUT PARTICULARLY IF HIS HARD WORK ON THIS PROJECT, HE HAS WORKED VERY HARD FOR A, A LONG TIME ON THIS, AS HAS ASHLYN, AS HAS ALL OF OUR STAFF.

SO I APPLAUD THEM FOR THAT WORK.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND, UH, THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT.

THANK YOU, UH, VICE CHAIR CASTLE.

I JUST WANNA SAY I'M HAPPY TO HAVE YOU BACK AND CONGRATULATIONS ON THE BABY AND CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR PROMOTION.

UM, NOTHING ELSE.

IT'S GOOD TO SEE MARTHA JUAREZ HERE IN THE HOUSE TONIGHT, SO, ABSOLUTELY .

JUST, THAT'S IT.

UH, COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ.

COMMISSIONER VAL IS NOT HERE TONIGHT.

I WAS GONNA ASK MARTHA SOME BMP QUE NO, I'M KIDDING.

NO, I, UH, I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY.

I MEAN, WE, OH, SORRY.

WE WENT THROUGH THE, THIS WAS A LONG ONE, GUYS, I THINK, WHAT, IN THE ALMOST SIX, SEVEN YEARS I'VE BEEN ON THIS BOARD ALREADY.

IT'S LIKE, WOW, THIS ONE WAS A LOT.

I JUST SAW THE SLIPS COMING IN AND THEN I WAS LIKE, MM-HMM .

BUT, UH, ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING UP AND, UM, I HAVE REALLY NOTHING ELSE TO ADD.

I MEAN, I WENT DOWN ON ANA AND WE GOT FIRST PLACE AGAIN RACING, SO HAVE A GREAT ONE.

UH, COMMISSIONER ARMINTA.

UH, I ALSO WANNA ECHO ON THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS.

UH, WELCOME BACK, ASHTON.

WE MISS YOU AND, UH, WE'RE HAPPY THAT YOU'RE BACK WITH US AND THANK YOU TO THE STAFF.

UH, I KNOW YOU GUYS DO PUT A LOT, A LOT OF WORK INTO IT AND, UH, WE, UH, HAVE OUR QUESTIONS ALL THE TIME, SO I ALWAYS APPRECIATE THE PATIENCE, UM, AND THE CLARIFICATIONS AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU, YOU PROVIDE.

SO I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THAT.

AND I JUST WANT TO, UM, I, IT, ALTHOUGH IT WAS A LONG MEETING, IT WAS BEAUTIFUL TO SEE EVERYBODY, UH, BE ABLE TO COME HERE AND VOICE THEIR OPINION, EITHER PRO OR, UM, AGAINST IT.

AND, AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I'M HERE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY I ENJOY THIS.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER QUINONES.

WELL, I LIKE TO START OUT BY, UM, SAYING I'M SO GLAD YOU'RE BACK, ASHLEY, AND CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR BABY BOY.

HE'S BEAUTIFUL.

AND AGAIN, I WANNA THANK STAFF FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.

I KNOW IT WAS A LOT OF WORK BECAUSE I KNOW IT TOOK ME FOREVER TO READ IT AND I WAS GOING BACK AND FORTH, SO I KNOW IT WAS A LOT OF WORK AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR PUTTING IT TOGETHER.

AND I WAS REALLY ALSO GLAD TO SEE A LOT OF THE RESIDENTS FROM NATIONAL CITY.

I, I WISH WE COULD HAVE MORE, YOU KNOW, MEETINGS LIKE THIS WITH A LOT OF PARTICIPANTS LETTING US KNOW HOW THEY FEEL BECAUSE IT IMPACTS EVERYBODY.

SO I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY.

THANK YOU, SHERIFF.

I'M SORRY MY MIND WAS RUNNING.

CONDUCTING SUCH A GREAT MEETING.

THANK MY PLEASURE.

COME

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I'M SORRY.

I SAID THANK YOU FOR CONDUCTING SUCH A GREAT MEETING.

OH, OKAY.

YEAH, YOU KEPT IT COLD.

THIS WAS, THIS WAS A BIG ONE, SO THANK, THANK YOU GUYS.

YOU KEPT IT COOL.