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UM, WITH THAT, WE COULD JUST A REMINDER, IF WE COULD SILENCE ALL CELL PHONES OR DEVICES IN THE CHAMBER WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED.
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LIKE TO CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.UH, A LIVE WEBCAST OF THE MEETING MAY BE VIEWED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE.
IF YOU'RE WATCHING VIA ZOOM, UH, UH, INTERPRETER INSTRUCTIONS WILL BE APPEAR AT THE, UH, IN THE CHAT BOX AT THE BOTTOM OF YOUR SCREEN.
FOR THOSE WHO PREFER TO SIT IN THE CHAMBER, HEADSETS ARE AVAILABLE TO PROVIDE LIVE SPANISH TRANSLATION, PLEASE SEE THE CITY CLERK CONCERNING A, UH, CHECKING OUT A HEADSET.
THE NOTICE AGENDA AND INFORMATION ON THE CITY OF NASHVILLE CITY'S WEBSITE INFORMS MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT THEY MAY SUBMIT A GENERAL, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT OR A PUBLIC COMMENT ON A SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEM IN A NUMBER OF WAYS, EITHER IN PERSON BY SUBMITTING ONE OF THESE SALMON COLORED SLIPS THAT ARE AT THE BACK, RIGHT BEHIND THE, UH, UH, OUTSIDE THE DOORS THERE.
AND PLEASE GET THAT OVER TO THE CITY CLERK AT THE, HERE AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, UH, VIA ZOOM BY PRE-REGISTERING ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE, NO LATER THAN TWO HOURS BEFORE THE MEETING OR EMAILING NO LATER THAN FOUR HOURS BEFORE THE MEETING.
ALL WRITTEN COMMENTS RECEIVED, UH, ARE DISTRIBUTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL PRIOR TO THE MEETING AND PUBLISHED ON THE CITY WEBSITE IF RECEIVED BY THE DEADLINE.
WITH THAT, COULD WE HAVE ROLL CALL PLEASE? THANK YOU.
COUNCIL MEMBER RODRIGUEZ PRESENT, COUNCIL MEMBER MOLINA PRESENT, VICE MAYOR BUSH.
COULD WE PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? REMAIN STANDING FOR THE INVOCATION.
AND, UM, MEMBER BUSH, WOULD YOU READ THIS, PLEASE? RIGHT HAND OVER YOUR HEART.
WHERE DO YOU BEGIN? I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR A WISHES STANDS, ONE, NATION, NATION UNDER GOD, INVIS, INVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY.
MY NAME IS RUBEN RODRIGUEZ FOR THE DIVINE CHURCH.
OUR GOD, WE COME BEFORE YOU WITH GRATITUDE, AND WE THANK YOU FOR BEING OUR GOD.
WE ASK THAT YOU BE WITH US AS WE SHARE TOPICS, LORD GOD, THAT MAY BE LORD GOD FOR US AND IMPOSSIBLE TO DEAL WITH.
BUT WE PUT EVERYTHING IN YOUR HANDS FOR YOUR DIRECTIONS FOR THIS CITY.
AND WE PRAY FOR EVERYONE AND THE COUNCIL MEMBER AS WELL AS THE MAYOR AND THEIR FAMILY.
LORD GOD, WE THANK YOU FOR THE FIRST RESPONDERS AND ALSO THE LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT PROTECT OUR CITIES, LORD GOD.
AND WE THANK YOU FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE IN THE CITY, LORD GOD.
AND WE BRING THIS ALL IN UNITY.
THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'RE GONNA DO TODAY AND FOREVER.
AT THIS POINT, WE WOULD NORMALLY DO OUR PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT I'M
[7.1 One Safe Place, the South County Family Justice Center - a project of the San Diego District Attorney]
GONNA MOVE SOMETHING OUT OF ORDER.WE DO HAVE OUR, OUR DISTRICT ATTORNEY, UH, SUMMER STEPAN HERE, UH, THIS EVENING TO MAKE A PRESENTATION ON THE, UH, ONE SAFE PLACE SOUTH COUNTY FAMILY JUSTICE CENTER.
UH, GOOD EVENING MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, UM, SOMER STEFAN, SAN DIEGO COUNTY'S DISTRICT ATTORNEY, AND ALSO, WHICH INCLUDES, UH, BEING THE PROUD DISTRICT ATTORNEY OF NATIONAL CITY, UM, AND THE 17 OTHER CITIES.
BUT TODAY WE'RE GONNA FOCUS ON NATIONAL CITY.
UM, I'M VERY, VERY EXCITED TO TELL YOU THAT A BRAND NEW INNOVATION PREVENTION SOLUTION IS COMING TO NATIONAL CITY TO SERVE THE ENTIRE SOUTH COUNTY.
IT IS FAMILY JUSTICE CENTER SOUTH, UH, THAT WE CALL ONE SAFE PLACE AS THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY.
AS YOU KNOW, WE ARE ALSO THE LARGEST PROVIDER OF VICTIM SERVICES FOR OUR COUNTY.
ANYTIME THERE'S A VICTIM OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING, UH, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, ELDER ABUSE, THOSE CASES ARE GONNA COME TO THE DA'S OFFICE.
NOT ONLY ETHICALLY PROSECUTES THOSE CRIMES, WE ALSO THEN ARE CHARGED WITH PROVIDING VICTIM SERVICES SO THAT THOSE VICTIMS HAVE THE RESOURCES TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE A HEALTHY LIVING AND LIFE.
BUT THAT SOLUTION IS NOT ENOUGH BECAUSE WE
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KNOW THAT VICTIMS OF CRIME NEED, UH, MANY MORE SERVICES.AND IF WE JUST LOOK AT HOMELESSNESS, WE KNOW THAT 40% OF HOMELESS WOMEN AND CHILDREN ON, ON OUR STREETS ARE DRIVEN THEIR FIRST BY DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.
AND SO WE KNOW THAT IF WE OFFER A SOLUTION, THEN IT CAN ALSO IMPACT THE LIFE OF THE CHILDREN.
IT WILL BREAK CYCLES OF VIOLENCE.
AND WE KNOW IN THE MIDST OF VIOLENCE, NOTHING THRIVES.
THE FAMILY JUSTICE CENTER SYSTEM BEGAN IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY 25 YEARS AGO.
WE WERE THE ORIGINAL, AND THEN IT GREW TO BECOME A NATIONAL INTERNATIONAL MODEL.
BUT UNFORTUNATELY, SAN DIEGO COUNTY LAGGED BEHIND.
WE ARE THE FIFTH LARGEST COUNTY IN THE UNITED STATES, THE SECOND LARGEST IN CALIFORNIA WITH 3.3 MILLION RESIDENTS, LARGER THAN 21 STATES.
BUT WE EXPECTED PEOPLE TO, WITHOUT TRANSPORTATION, TO DRIVE FROM SOUTH COUNTY TO CENTRAL SAN DIEGO DRIVE FROM NORTH COUNTY.
AND WE SAW THAT DOMESTIC VIOLENCE NUMBERS AND HOMICIDES WERE NOT GOING DOWN.
SO I COMMITTED TO REGIONALIZE THE FAMILY JUSTICE CENTERS, AND WE STARTED WITH THE NORTH, UM, COUNTY, AND NOW WE'RE OPENING IN SOUTH COUNTY.
THIS IS THE PATH FOR VICTIMS OF CRIME.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY GO FROM, UH, MULTIPLE PLACES.
THEY HAVE TO, THEY'RE GIVEN A PIECE OF PAPER WITH, GO HERE FOR YOUR CHILD TRAUMA, GO HERE FOR YOUR ADULT TRAUMA SERVICES, GO HERE FOR YOUR STRANGULATION EXAM, GO HERE FOR YOUR MEDICAL SEXUAL ASSAULT EXAM.
AND THAT BASICALLY BREAKS THEM DOWN AND THEY GIVE UP ON RESTORING THEIR LIVES.
WHAT FAMILY JUSTICE CENTER DOES IS IT BECOMES A ONE STOP SHOP.
IT BRINGS ALL THE SERVICES UNDER ONE ROOF, INCLUDING THE HOSPITAL SERVICES, THE SEXUAL ASSAULT EXAM, STRANGULATION EXAM, THE TEMPORARY RESTRAINING CLINICS, THE LAW ENFORCEMENT, THE NAVIGATION FOR HOUSING, EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES AND TRAUMA SPECIFIC TO CHILDREN LIKE C-F-S-T-I THAT STARTED AT RADY CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL.
THAT ESSENTIALLY PUTS THEM ON A PATH OF TO HEALTH INSTEAD OF A CYCLE OF VIOLENCE.
IT IS AN INCREDIBLE MODEL, AND THIS MODEL IN NORTH COUNTY HAS PROVEN DIVIDENDS.
THIS YEAR, WE BROKE ALL BARRIERS IN THE UNITED STATES.
THIS REGION HAD THE LOWEST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE MURDER RATE THAN ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE NATION AT FIVE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE MURDERS.
AND MUCH OF IT CAN BE LINKED TO THE PREVENTION SERVICES OF BREAKING THE CYCLE OF VIOLENCE.
8,000 PEOPLE VISITED THE NORTH COUNTY REGION.
THIS IS KIND OF HOW IT LOOKS IN THE NORTH COUNTY, AND WE'RE BRINGING THE SAME GLAMOR AND THE SAME BEAUTIFUL ARCHITECTURE THAT'S TRAUMA INFORMED AND NOT ASKING FOR ANY MONEY TO THE SOUTH COUNTY AND THE SOUTH COUNTY, UM, IS GONNA OPEN SOMETIME IN THE FALL BETWEEN SEPTEMBER OR OCTOBER OF THIS YEAR.
AND THANKS, UH, MAYOR AND THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBERS BECAUSE YOU HAVE SUPPORTED THIS FROM DAY ONE.
YOU WERE ABLE TO CUT THROUGH A LOT OF RED TAPE SO THAT THINGS DON'T TAKE YEARS AND YEARS BECAUSE OUR VICTIMS NEED THIS SERVICE NOW.
AND SO I AM VERY PLEASED TO, UH, BRING ONE SAFE PLACE TO THE SOUTH.
WE ALREADY HAVE 23 PARTNERS, INCLUDING THE OBVIOUSLY AMAZING RADY CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL THAT WILL MOVE IN THEIR, UH, CHILD TRAUMA CHILD ADVOCACY CENTER WITH US, BE BILATERAL SAFETY CORRIDOR.
OF COURSE, MARISSA OGAR, AS WE KNOW, SEX TRAFFICKING VICTIM AND HUMAN TRAFFICKING IS PREVALENT IN THIS AREA, AND THE VICTIMS WILL BE ABLE TO GET THEIR SERVICES IN ONE PLACE.
WE KNOW, LIKE I EXPLAINED THE LINK, UM, AND THE, UM, INCREASE IN ELDER ABUSE IN THIS AREA.
SO 15% POPULATION IN SOUTH COUNTY, BUT 19% OF ALL GB CASES AND 20% OF ALL ELDER ABUSE CASES.
THIS IS WHERE IT'LL BE IN THE MILE OF CARS.
UM, IT IS, UM, WITHIN, UH, THIS, THE LOCATION OF ALREADY THE LIVEWELL CENTER, SO WE CAN TAP INTO OTHER RESOURCES LIKE THE IMMIGRANT CENTER THERE, THE VETERAN SERVICES, THE CHILD AND FAMILY WELLBEING SERVICES.
WE WILL ALL BE THERE TO CONNECT US.
THE PLAN IS THERE FOR YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT, BUT IT IS, UH, IT IS BUILT AROUND PROVIDING THE SERVICES.
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NORTH, WE HAD A PYRAMID.AND IN THE SOUTH WE HAVE A TREE OF LIFE, UM, THAT WILL CENTER AND WELCOME EVERYBODY AS THEY WALK IN.
UH, WE HAVE A CHILD WAITING ROOM.
WE'LL HAVE A TEACHING KITCHEN THERE, UH, A LAUNDRY SO THAT YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO, WHO NEED THEIR CLOTHES LAUNDERED.
UM, WE'LL HAVE A TRO CLINIC, A LAW ENFORCEMENT, A TRAINING ROOM, UH, DRESS, UH, FOR SUCCESS SO THAT OUR VICTIMS CAN GET JOBS THAT ARE DIFFERENT THAN BEING EXPLOITED AND PROSTITUTED AND BEAT UP.
THEY'LL FIND A NEW PATH TO LIFE.
UM, THIS IS HOW WE'RE ALREADY GROWING SOME PLANTS THERE.
AS YOU SEE, THE SIGN IS ALREADY GONE UP, UH, WITH 23 PARTNERS.
AND, UM, THIS IS BASICALLY THE STORY.
AND I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU, AND I WANTED YOU TO BE THE FIRST IN THE SOUTH COUNTY TO HEAR ABOUT, UH, THE OPENING DATE AND THAT WE'RE ON TRACK.
WE, OF COURSE, HIT SOME OBSTACLES AS ALWAYS, BUT WE'VE OVERCOME THEM WITH YOUR HELP AND WE'RE, WE'RE READY TO OPEN IN THE FALL.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I WANNA THANK CHIEF DEPUTY TRACY PRYOR, WHO YOU WILL SEE OFTEN.
SHE'S GOING TO BE, UH, MANAGING THAT CENTER, JUST LIKE OUR NORTH COUNTY CENTER.
PA, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, UM, COMING YOURSELF TO BE BEFORE US TO, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, GIVE US THIS NEWS.
I'VE SEEN THE LOGO OUTSIDE OF THE OFFICE, UM, ON, ON NATIONAL CITY BOULEVARD AND, UH, NO.
AND, UM, YOU SEE IT FROM THE OUTSIDE, IT'S TINY, BUT I'M LOOKING AT THE, AT THE, UH, LAYOUT RIGHT NOW, AND IT'S HUGE.
IT, IT REALLY, UM, SERVED ALL THE, THE SERVICES THAT YOU HAVE THAT YOU HAVE SAID WE NEEDED HERE IN THE SOUTH COUNTY.
THANK, THANK YOU FOR MAKE, FOR MAKING THIS HAPPEN.
OKAY, NEXT, UH, WE'LL LET, THERE WE GO.
[5. PUBLIC COMMENT ]
WITH THAT WE DO GO INTO, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT AND, UH, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT.WE DO HAVE A LARGE NUMBER OF SPEAKERS TONIGHT.
WE'RE GONNA BE HOLDING IT TO, UH, UH, TO TWO MINUTES.
AND, UH, SO WITH THAT, WE'RE GONNA START WITH, UH, UH, WENDY EGAN WILL BE FOLLOWED BY, UH, TED GOTCH AND THEN WILL BE FOLLOWED BY EDWARD NETTO.
AND YES, CAN YOU PLEASE COME OUT IN THE AISLE WHEN YOUR NAME IS CALLED? UH, THE THREE AT A TIMES THAT WAY GO, GO A LOT FASTER.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I'M WENDY FROM INCLUSIVE KID KIDS NETWORK.
I JUST SENT YOU GUYS AN EMAIL TODAY REGARDING TRYING TO GET ON THE AGENDA.
AND I'M JUST HERE BECAUSE I WANNA SPEAK ABOUT IT AGAIN, AND LET OUR COMMUNITY KNOW THAT I'M DILIGENTLY WORKING ON BRINGING THESE PROGRAMS TO OUR COMMUNITY.
UM, I'M THE FOUNDER OF INCLUSIVE NETWORK.
UM, AND TO ME, THIS IS PERSONAL FOR ME.
I BROUGHT MY SON, HE'S HERE, UM, AND I'M DOING THIS FOR NOT JUST HIM, BUT FOR ALL THE CHILDREN LIKE HIM IN THE COMMUNITY, THOSE WHOSE NEEDS CONTINUE TO, TO GO AND MET.
THEY DESERVE THE SAME OPPORTUNITIES AS THEIR NEUROTYPICAL CHILDREN WHO NOW HAVE ACCESS TO PARK AND RECREATIONAL PROGRAMS. INCLUSION SHOULD NOT BE OPTIONAL.
IT SHOULD BE BUILT INTO THE HEART OF OUR CITY AND TO ALL OF OUR KIDS.
AND I'M JUST HERE BECAUSE I, I WANNA CREATE THAT SAFE SPACE FOR ALL OF OUR KIDS.
AND THEY DESERVE TO, TO HAVE THIS.
AND I WANNA PARTNER UP WITH PARKS AND RECS AND SEE HOW WE CAN MEET THEIR NEEDS.
AND ALSO, I WAS SO EXCITED TO HEAR ABOUT THE SAFE SPACE, UM, FOR THE FAMILY JUSTICE CENTER BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN THERE AND I HAVE BROKEN THAT CYCLE, AND I HAVE, AND IT, IT REALLY HELPED ME.
AND NOW I'M HERE BUILDING SOMETHING FOR MY COMMUNITY, AND I HOPE TO
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BE ABLE TO CONNECT WITH THEM BECAUSE I WOULD LOVE TO BRING A SAFE SPACE FOR THEM AND AN INCLUSIVE SPACE FOR OUR KIDS.AND I HOPE I CAN GET IN THE AGENDA.
AND, AND HAVE YOU PUT TOGETHER LIKE A WRITTEN PROPOSAL OR REPORT? I HAVE BECAUSE I'VE BEEN PUTTING IN PROPOSALS FOR GRANTS MM-HMM
AND I, I CAN EMAIL THAT TO YOU MM-HMM
AS, AND I'M CURRENTLY WORKING WITH THE SAN DIEGO PORT BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA GIVE ME, I THINK ONE DAY A WEEK TO BE ABLE TO GIVE SERVICES AT THE AQUATIC CENTER.
SO, AND I HAVE NOW 120 FAMILIES INTERESTED, AND I'LL BE SETTING UP AT THE PARK, AT, UH, PARK, UH, KIMBALL PARK WITH, OKAY.
UH, NEXT WE GO WITH, UH, TED GOTCH TO BE FOLLOWED BY, UH, EDWARD, UH, NIETO, TO BE FOLLOWED BY CONNIE.
I HAVE WATCHED ALL 17 HOURS OF THE BUDGET MEETINGS.
I KNOW SOME OF YOU HAVE SAID IN THE PAST, MR. BUSH, IN PARTICULAR, THE PEOPLE WHO DON'T ATTEND THESE MEETINGS IN PERSON ARE SOMEHOW LESSER PARTICIPANTS.
LATELY, THIS COUNCIL HAS, SEP HAS OPERATED WITHOUT ENOUGH INFORMATION TO MAKE GOOD DECISIONS, BUT THEN YOU MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON WISHFUL THINKING FEELINGS, HUNCHES AND POLITICAL EXPEDIENCY.
MR. BUSH AND RODRIGUEZ HAVE MADE CLAIMS THEY ACT IN PRUDENT WAYS, BUT THIS IS NOT BORN OUT IN THEIR ACTIONS.
THEY HAVE USED WORDS LIKE HEALTHY RESERVES AND EXCESSIVE RESERVES.
YOU HAVE NOT BEEN LISTENING TO YOUR STAFF.
YOU KNOW THAT YOU OFTEN COMPLAIN ABOUT THE USE OF CONSULTANTS AND CONTRACTORS SOMETIMES AND RIGHT, RIGHTLY SO.
BUT YOU HAVE RETIREES LIKE SCOTT AND TRACY LAMB AND BUCK MARTIN, WHO HAVE GENEROUSLY COME BACK TO PUBLIC SERVICE TO CONSULT FOR YOU WITH LYDIA AND BRUCE AND CARLOS ALSO TRYING TO SET YOU UP FOR SUCCESS, BUT YOU HAVE NOT BEEN LISTENING TO THEM.
YOU HAVE NOT BEEN LISTENING TO THEIR ADVICE.
SCOTT TOLD YOU THEY ARE WARNING A WAVING, THEY ARE WAVING A WARNING FLAG.
FURTHER, YOU HAVE NOT ONCE ADDRESSED A COMMENT FROM THE PUBLIC.
YOU HAVE NOT ANSWERED ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE NOT PROVED.
YOUR POSITION IS FISCALLY PRUDENT.
MR. NIETO SAID, AT BEST LAST MEETING, HE SAID, STAFF DISCUSSED CLEAR STRUCTURAL FINANCIAL PROBLEMS YOU HAVE, BUT YOUR DISCUSSION AFTER WASN'T REFLECTIVE OF THAT AND YOU DIDN'T ALLEVIATE THEIR CONCERNS.
THE FUTURE DEFICITS ARE CLEARLY ON YOU.
EDWARD NETTO TO BE FOLLOWED BY CONNIE TO BE FOLLOWED BY, UH, MARCOS NOVATO, UH, SORT OF TOOK THE WORDS OUT OF MY MOUTH HERE.
UM, YEAH, I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT, UM, COMMENTS MADE DURING THE COUNCIL MEETINGS AND ON FACEBOOK REGARDING A $51 MILLION, UH, RESERVE BALANCE PRESENTED AS IF THERE'S MONEY THAT HASN'T BEEN DISCOVERED, AND IT'S AVAILABLE TO BE SPENT.
AND THAT'S THE WRONG MESSAGE THAT'S BEING SPENT TO THE PUBLIC.
YOU'RE SPENDING MORE MONEY THAN REVENUE.
THAT'S A STRUCTURAL PROBLEM, FINANCIAL PROBLEM THAT NEEDS TO BE DEALT WITH.
AND IT'S AN UNCOMFORTABLE PROBLEM.
YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE PROBLEMS THAT YOU HAVE IN TERMS OF STAFFING, IN EFFICIENCIES, AND NOT ONLY ON STAFF, BUT ALSO IN THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AREA TOO.
YOU HAVE TO PUT EVERYTHING OUT THERE.
IT'S HARD TO CORRECT ANYTHING IF YOU DON'T DISCUSS IT.
AND GETTING INTO THE UNCOMFORTABLE DISCUSSIONS THAT ABOUT WHAT ARE THE OUTCOMES OF THE SPENDING THAT WE'VE HAD.
WE'VE HAD NUMEROUS EXAMPLES OF, OF, UH, UM, EXPENDITURES THAT DON'T HAVE ANY OUTCOMES.
AND THAT'S BEEN LEADING TO OUR DEFICIT.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT MORE CAN BE SAID.
UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S GOOD THINGS TO BE SAID, BUT YOU HAVE TO DIG INTO IT.
I MEAN, THERE'S, THERE'S OPTIONS TO BE DONE, BUT YOU HAVEN'T DISCUSSED THEM YET.
YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT THE FINANCIAL REPORTING SYSTEM.
I KEEP COMING AND TELLING YOU THAT'S THE KEY TO SOME OF YOUR FINANCIAL CONCERNS.
IF YOU WANNA DISCOVER INEFFICIENCIES, THAT'S THE WAY TO PUT IT IN THERE.
GET THAT SYSTEM GOING, AND HAVE PEOPLE REPORTING THEM SO YOU CAN IDENTIFY WHAT THE, WHAT THE INEFFICIENCIES ARE, WHAT THE OUTCOMES ARE, AND ASK QUESTIONS.
BUT TO GIVE SOMEBODY, TO TELL SOMEBODY THERE'S $51 MILLION AND SAY IT'S FREE MONEY THAT THE CITY HASN'T BEEN USING AS A RESOURCE, THAT'S, THAT'S A MISSTATEMENT.
THAT'S THIS PURPOSELY MISLEADING.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE DON'T NEED.
UM, YOU KNOW, YOU NEED MORE INFORMATION TO MAKE INFORMATIVE DECISIONS.
YOU, YOU'RE, YOU'RE OPERATING TO ME, YOU'RE OPERATING IN THE, IN THE BLIND.
UH, NEXT WE HAVE CONNIE TO BE FOLLOWED BY MARCOS NAVARRO TO BE FOLLOWED BY CORINA FLORES.
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EVENING EVERYBODY.I AM A CLOSE FRIEND TO BOTH MIKA AND RISA.
I'M ALSO HERE TO STATE MY FULL SUPPORT IN THE EFFORTS TO RECALL MARCUS BUSH.
I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT FOR ANYONE WITH A TITLE SUCH AS YOURS, TO ENSURE THAT THE CITY AND ITS PEOPLE FEEL AND SEE THAT YOU'RE DOING WHAT IS EXPECTED OF YOU.
IT IS VERY DISHEARTENING TO SEE AND LEARN THAT IF ANYONE VOICES THEIR CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT IS NEEDED, IT HAS BEEN MET WITH INTERRUPTIONS AND EYE ROLLS.
IT'S NOT ONLY IMPORTANT TO RESPECT US AND OUR CONCERNS, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU SHOULD RESPECT FOR YOURSELF AS WELL.
THEY HAVE PEOPLE LIKE ME THAT STAND BEHIND THEIR EFFORTS TO ENSURE GOVERNMENT IS LOOKING OUT FOR THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF ITS RESIDENTS.
RESPECTFUL AND TRUE TO THE VALUES.
AND WE, THE PEOPLE CAN AND WILL RECALL YOU IF YOU'RE NOT DOING RIGHT BY THE PEOPLE YOU SERVE.
WE'VE FOLLOWED BY CORINA FLORES, UH, TO BE FOLLOWED BY ROSADA.
UH, COUNCILMAN AND COUNCILWOMEN.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, I'M HERE TO, UH, SUPPORT MAYOR RON MORRISON AND ALSO JOSIE CLARK.
UM, I'M A NATIONAL CITY RESIDENT HERE.
I ATTENDED GRANGER JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL.
I ATTENDED SWEETWATER HIGH SCHOOL, YOU KNOW, A GRADUATE OF, UH, RED DEVIL, 1997.
AND, YOU KNOW, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN OUR CITY, YOU KNOW, AND I FEEL THAT THERE'S PEOPLE OUT HERE, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE NOT EVEN RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE ACTUALLY NOT FROM HERE.
AND THERE'S MORE TO DO WITH, YOU KNOW, WITH THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE INSTEAD OF WORRYING ABOUT HIGH SCHOOL PROBLEMS OR, OR JUNIOR HIGH PROBLEMS. YOU KNOW, LIKE, COME ON, WE'RE ALL GROWN UP.
IT'S TIME TO UNITE AND, AND TO HELP EACH OTHER OUT.
AND I ALSO WANNA SAY, GREAT JOB, MR. MAYOR RON MORRISON, FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO AND CONTINUE TO DO TO THE CITY OF THAT, FOR THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY.
LIKE I SAID, I'M HERE TO SUPPORT HER, YOU KNOW, AND, UM, LIKE I SAID, ALL THESE OUTSIDERS, MAYBE YOU GUYS SHOULD CHANGE THE RULES ON HAVING OUTSIDERS HERE THAT DON'T LIVE IN NATIONAL CITY, THAT ARE NOT IN THE STREETS.
I'M A COMMUNITY ACTIVIST TOO, SO I'M OUT THERE IN THE STREETS.
AND FOR THESE LITTLE, UH, FOR THESE LITTLE THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON, FOR THEM TO BRING PROBLEMS, UH, I'M NOT GONNA SAY NAMES HERE, BUT FOR THEM TO BRING PROBLEMS INTO OUR CITY.
YOU GUYS HAVE SO MUCH TO DEAL WITH, AND I THINK THAT IT'S, UH, TIME FOR A CHANGE.
YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS WORK TOGETHER AS A TEAM, MAN.
UM, CORINA FLORES, ROSATA MAR, AND, UH, PURITA JAVIER.
CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, YOU WERE ELECTED TO SERVE OUR BEST INTEREST, BUT HAVE IGNORED PUBLIC CONCERN AND PUSHED FORWARD THE APPROVAL OF DISPENSARIES THAT DOES NOT ALIGN WITH THE NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY, THAT JUST DESTROYS OUR KIDS.
REGARDLESS OF YOUR POSITION ON THAT ISSUE, THE FACT REMAINS, OUR VOICES WERE DISREGARDED.
A RECALL IS NOT JUST AN OPTION, IT'S A NECESSITY.
AND YOU KNOW WHO I'M TALKING ABOUT.
AND YET, THE FAILURES DO NOT STOP THERE.
THE ASSISTANT MAYOR FACED WITH LEGAL OBLIGATIONS TO PRESENT AT A DEPOSITION, HAS INSTEAD CHOOSING AVOIDANCE, WASTING TAXPAYERS DOLLARS AND OBSTRUCTING JUSTICE.
IT IS A BETRAYAL OF PUBLIC TRUST.
EVERY DOLLAR LOST, EVERY MOMENT DELAYED IS MONEY AND TIME THAT SHOULD BE INVESTED IN OUR SCHOOLS, OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
WE DEMAND ETHICAL DECISION MAKING.
WE DEMAND THAT OUR REPRESENTATIVES SHOW UP, LISTEN AND ACT IN OUR BEST INTEREST.
SO TODAY, LET US MAKE OUR VOICES HEARD.
LET US LET US HOLD OUR LEADERS ACCOUNTABLE AND LET US REMIND THEM THAT THEY SERVE US NOT THEMSELVES.
I SUPPORT OUR COMMUNITY, UM, LEADERS THAT IS MIKA LUISA THAT ARE ALWAYS, UM, SUPPORTING OUR COMMUNITY.
ANYONE THAT DOES NOT GOOD FOR OUR COMMUNITY COMMUNITY SHOULD BE RECALLED FROM THE VERY FIRST DAY.
THE MOCKING FACE OF ARROGANT FACE WAS NOTICEABLE.
AND I HOPE YOUR FACE EXPRESSION ARE STILL THE SAME WHEN YOU COMMUNITY RECALLS YOU, MARCUS.
NEXT WE HAVE ROSA MA, FOLLOWED BY PURITA JAVIER ANDAR.
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THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT.OKAY, CARLOS, CAN YOU INTERPRET PLEASE? GLADLY.
GOOD AFTERNOON, UH, COMMUNITY.
WHEN A COMMUNITY CHOOSES A LEADER TO REPRESENT US, WE DO IT WITH THE CONVICTION THAT THERE WILL WORK FOR THE WELLBEING OF OUR COMMUNITY.
EVERY DECISION YOU MAKE WITHOUT CONSULTING THE COMMUNITY IS A BLOW TO THAT TRUST THAT WE DEPOSITED AND SAID LEADERS.
WE CANNOT JUST STAY WITH THE ARMS CROSSED WHILE OUR TAX DOLLARS ARE USED ON INITIATIVES THAT WILL NOT BENEFIT THE, THE LIVES OF OUR PEOPLE, THAT DON'T IMPROVE SAFETY, THAT THEY DON'T, THAT DON'T IMPROVE THE EDUCATION OF OUR CHILDREN OR OUR QUALITY OF LIFE.
THE QUALITY OF LIFE WE DESERVE AS RESIDENTS, RATHER THAN BENEFITING JUST A FEW.
AND I WANT TO TELL THE COMMUNITY THAT POWER DOES NOT RESIDE WITH THE POLITICIANS.
THE POWER RESIDES WITH THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE IT IS US WHO GET UP EVERY DAY TO GO TO WORK, TO MAKE OUR CITY A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE.
AND A PLACE WHERE OUR KIDS CAN LIVE IN PEACE.
AND IF OUR REPRESENTATIVES DON'T MEET THEIR OBLIGATION TO LISTEN TO US, WE MUST REMIND THEM THAT THEY MADE A COMMITMENT AND THAT THEY'RE ACCOUNTABLE TO THE PEOPLE.
TO TODAY, WE'RE HERE TO RAISE OUR VOICE ON DEMAND, TRANSPARENCY, ACCOUNTABILITY, AND RESPECT FOR ALL RESIDENTS.
WE WILL NOT ALLOW OUR RESOURCES TO BE WASTED AND IN ON RATHER, UM, I FADED DECISIONS.
AND WE DEMAND THAT YOU WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY INSTEAD OF AGAINST, AGAINST US.
OUR VOICE HAS STRENGTH AND OUR VOTE HAS POWER.
AND IT IS TIME FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO LISTEN TO US, TO LISTEN TO US.
BECAUSE IT WAS US WHO PUT ALL OF YOU IN YOUR POSITIONS.
AND THAT SAME COMMUNITY THAT ELECTED YOU CAN DEMAND CHANGE.
ALRIGHT, NEXT WE HAVE PITA JAVIER.
I AM PURITA JAVIER, VICTIM OF TOXICITY FROM CERAMICS, KILN IN VISION.
HUSBAND AND WIFE, SMALLEST POLITICAL UNIT REPRESENTING A COMMUNITY FROM CITY OF SAN DIEGO, D NINE AND D FOUR OF THE REGION.
THIS IS OUR SECOND ATTENDANCE WITH JEW, WITH THE PURPOSE OF SINGLE PURPOSE, I THINK AS ONE.
SO, AS ONE FOR THE SURVIVAL OF
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MAN, WE, YOU AND US KNOW, CLEAN AIR, CLEAN WATER, CLEAN FOOD, MAN.DIED OF CARBON MONOXIDE, INHALING CLEAN FOOD, MAN.
INHALING AGAIN, INHALING IN LESS THAN 30 MINUTES, RIGHT? HONORABLE MARKERS.
GOVERNING BOARD, AIR POLLUTION CONTROL DISTRICT.
WE WERE CLASSMATES ALONG WITH MAYOR GLORIA.
DAN CONOR RIVERA SUPERVISOR, ER SUPERVISOR, THEN NORA, THEN NORA VARGAS, COUNSELOR SHARE OF LA MEZA WHO STEPPED DOWN.
AND WITH RS FOUR OF THEM, WE LEARN THAT GOVERNOR BOARD TAKES CHARGE OF THE RULES WHILE AIR POLLUTION.
OKAY, NEXT WE HAVE CESAR, UH, JAVIER TO BE FOLLOWED BY VERONICA, A AND THEN ERNESTO CASTANEDA.
MY CLASSMATES WITH SANOR, ANI RODRIGUEZ AND MOLINA.
AND MY CLASSMATE, UH, CONOR MARCUS BUS OF THE GOVERNING BOARD, AIR POLLUTION CONTROL DISTRICT.
WE ARE ALL THINKERS AND WE ARE AT STAKE.
THE NUMBER ONE SURVIVAL KIT IS CLEAN AIR.
WE WENT TO THE MOON, WE BRING IT, WE WENT TO THE MOON, WE BRING WATER AND OUR INVENTIONS.
WHY? WHY? WHY ARE WE DESTROYING, NEGLECTING THIS PRECIOUS COMMODITY? WHY HONORABLE MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL? IN OUR EXPERIENCE, WE ARE UNFORTUNATE TO HAVE A THINKER AT THE GOVERNING BOARD MEMBER, UH, UH, AIR POLLUTION CONTROL DISTRICT.
WE STRONGLY RECOMMEND IN THE CAPACITY OF A MEMBER, MR. BUSH, TO STEP DOWN.
THIS IS A NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUE.
LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED TO TIJUANA RIVER AIR POLLUTION.
HE AND THE CAHOOTS WERE NEGLECTFUL.
THEY ONLY MADE ACTION IN JULY OF 2024.
THAT WAS A CRISIS BEGINNING 1993.
WHAT HAVE THEY DONE? THEY WENT THERE AND USED THEIR NOSE.
PLEASE SPEAK INTO THE MIC SO YOU GET RECORDED.
I AM JUST, UH, AND THEN THEY BROUGHT THEIR SOPHISTICATED INSTRUMENT TO GRAB, WHAT IS THAT NITRATE PIPE.
IT'S THE ENEMY OF OUR RESPIRATORY SYSTEM.
MR. BUSH, YOU ARE NOT DOING YOUR JOB.
LEADERSHIP HAD FAILED AND IS FAILING.
NEXT WE HAVE VERONICA, A TO BE FOLLOWED BY ERNESTO CASTANEDA TO BE FOLLOWED BY AMY BROADNO, I THINK.
OKAY, HOPE I DIDN'T MESS THAT UP TOO MUCH.
I HAVE KNOWN LISA MCCARTHY SINCE 1982, AND I KNOW HER WORD TO BE SOLID BEFORE SHE MAKES ANY DECISION.
I'M HERE TO SUPPORT HER EFFORTS IN RECALLING COUNCIL MEMBER MARCUS BUSH.
I HAVE FAMILY AND FRIENDS THAT LIVE AND WORK HERE AS WELL.
AND WE ARE READY TO JOIN THE CAUSE FOR CHANGE IN GOVERNMENT.
YOU MAY NOT KNOW THIS, BUT IF THERE IS ANYONE WHO HAS THE ABILITY AND CAPABILITY OF GATHERING PEOPLE, IT WOULD BE MIKA AND LOUISA.
IF I WERE YOU COUNCILMAN, I WOULD MAKE DECISIONS TO BENEFIT THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF THE RESIDENTS THAT YOU PROMISED TO SERVE OTHER.
OTHERWISE, YOUR CAREER IN, IN POLITICS WILL BE SHORT-LIVED.
THE PEOPLE ARE THE ONLY LEGITIMATE FOUND FOUNTAIN OF POWER.
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NEXT WE GO WITH ERNESTO CASTANEDA.GOOD EVENING, MAYOR CITY COUNCIL.
I'M A FIELD REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE OFFICE OF ASSEMBLY MEMBER DAVID ALVAREZ.
I JUST STARTED LAST WEEK AND, UH, MYSELF, AS LONG AS MY COLLEAGUE ATE KA.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO WA UH, WE'RE GONNA BE ASSISTING THE MEMBER IN REPRESENTING NATIONAL CITY.
UH, THE REASON FOR PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY IS JUST TO INTRODUCE OURSELVES TO CITY COUNCIL AND ALSO TO MAKE OURSELVES AVAILABLE TO ANY CONSTITUENTS, UH, WHO WOULD LIKE TO REACH OUT TO US, SHOULD THEY NEED ANYTHING.
UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY BUSINESS CARDS YET, BUT I TOOK SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES' BUSINESS CARDS AND I JUST WROTE MY
UM, BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC SERVICE AND THANK YOU.
WHAT, IF I COULD JUST ASK WHAT, WHAT IS YOUR, UH, YEAH, YEAH.
YOUR FIELD OF, OF, OF SERVICE.
I MEAN, IS IT JUST NATIONAL CITY? IS IT SOUTH BAY? IS IT THE ENTIRE DISTRICT OR WHAT? I I HAVE MOST OF THE NORTHERN DISTRICT.
I HAVE BAR LOGAN, LOGAN HEIGHTS.
AND I ALSO HAVE, UH, IMPERIAL BEACH AND THE TWAN RIVER VALLEY.
OH, YOU DON'T HAVE MUCH ON YOUR PLATE.
WELCOME TO THIS OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY.
AND, UH, I WILL RESPOND TO YOUR EMAIL.
I GUESS I CAN SAY I DON'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT THAT MAD NOW THAT YOU GUYS HAVEN'T RETURNED MY EMAILS.
I SEE YOU HAVE A LOT TO DEAL WITH.
I'M ORIGINALLY SIR FROM NATIONAL CITY, CALIFORNIA.
DIDN'T PLAN ON EVER COMING BACK HERE BECAUSE IN 2023 I WATCHED NATIONAL CITY PD BEAT MY BROTHER TO ALMOST DEATH.
SINCE THEN, MY FAMILY HAS LIVED IN A TERROR AND I'M, BECAUSE OF LOSING EVERYTHING FIVE TIMES IN CORPORATE AMERICA, WORKING FOR OVER 100 COMPANIES, MY BROTHER AND I FIGHT EVERY DAY.
I PROBABLY NEED TO CALL THE SAFE PLACE PEOPLE.
UM, HOWEVER, IN 2024, I DECIDED THAT ENOUGH WAS ENOUGH AND I CREATED MY OWN COMPANY.
I'M NOW IN THE TOP 3% OF FEMALE FOUNDERS GLOBALLY.
WITH THE CURRENT PRE-REVENUE VALUATION OF $85 MILLION.
IN 1999, I HELPED SHUT DOWN WACK AND HUT PRIVATE PRISONS.
I HELPED LOBBY FOR AB 3 92 POLICE USE OF FORCE STANDARDS, AND I'M BACK IN NATIONAL CITY.
I AM MAD YOU DIDN'T CALL ME BACK, MARCUS.
'CAUSE MY SON IS BLACK, SO IS MY DAUGHTER.
UM, MY REVENUE PROJECTIONS ARE OVER 600 MILLION.
I'M CREATING A COMPANY THAT WILL BE COMPARED TO LIVE NATION AND C3 EVENTS.
I WOULD LIKE A PROCLAMATION FROM THE CITY RECOGNIZING ME FOR THE AMAZING THINGS I'VE DONE WITH MY LIFE SO THAT I CAN CREATE AN ANNUAL EVENT HERE TO RAISE MONEY FOR MENTAL HEALTH, HUMAN TRAFFICKING AND WHATEVER ELSE IS BEING DEFUNDED.
BECAUSE I REALIZED THE ONLY WAY I'M GONNA BE ABLE TO HELP BACK IS TO CREATE A BILLION DOLLAR THING.
ONE QUESTION, AMY, YOU SAID YOU CONTACTED US AT HOW, SEVERAL EMAILS, SEVERAL CALLS, AND NEVER A RETURNED CALL OR EMAIL BACK.
AND I'VE TALKED TO THE SECRETARIES AND NOTHING.
AND, AND YOU SAID YOU SENT EMAIL OR WHATEVER.
WE JUST NEED TO CHECK ON WHERE THOSE ARE GOING TOO.
'CAUSE I JUST NOW DID A QUICK CHECK AND I HAVE HAVEN'T SEEN MY EMAIL'S A LITTLE SPAMMY.
IT'S AMY AT HAUNTED TEXAS THEME PARK.
WHICH IS AMY $2.7 BILLION DEVELOPMENT I'M WORKING ON IN TEXAS.
WE'LL DEFINITELY, DEFINITELY CONTACT YOU.
MAKE SURE WE GIVE YOUR CONTACT TO EVERYONE.
NEXT WE GO WITH, UH, BRIAN CLAPPER, FOLLOWED BY BRIAN.
COUNCIL, UH, STAFF AND COMMUNITY.
JUST LIKE TO, UH, YOU KNOW, REMIND YOU.
AND THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH FOR THE CITY, UH, COMING TOGETHER AND, AND, AND REALLY HELPING US TO WORK OUT, WORK THROUGH THIS CARNIVAL.
AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, WE ARE, WE'RE LIONS.
WE'RE THE LARGEST SERVICE ORGANIZATION IN THE WORLD, AND IT'S ALL ABOUT THE COMMUNITY.
AND I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS YEAR, UPCOMING CARNIVAL JULY 2ND THROUGH JULY 6TH.
THANK YOU MR. CITY MANAGER, MR. RODRIGUEZ, MS. YAMANI, MR. BUSH, AND, AND LOUIS.
WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU ALL DOWN THERE.
AND PLEASE DON'T FEEL BAD TO APPROACH US AND LET US KNOW.
WE'D LOVE TO HAVE YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ON THE STAGE AND MAKE THIS A GREAT COMMUNITY EVENT.
THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH FOR EVERYTHING.
AND, UH, UH, BRIAN RYAN, BEFORE YOU LEAVE, COME ON, PICK UP JUST FOR A MOMENT.
SO YOU TOLD EVERYONE THAT THE THE FAIR
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IS, UM, UH, IS GONNA BE FROM THE SECOND TO THE SIXTH.WHEN'S THE FIREWORKS? FIREWORKS ARE THE FIFTH.
THE FIFTH AT 9:00 PM AND OKAY.
NEXT YEAR THEY'RE GONNA BE BACK ON THE FOURTH, BUT IT'S, IT'S BEEN A LONG, A LONG HAUL TO GET THE PIRO, THE TECHNICIANS TO COME IN AND DO IT.
BUT ON JULY 5TH AT 9:00 PM WE'LL HAVE OUR, OUR FIREWORKS.
A 20 MINUTE GREAT SHOW, AND WE HOPE EVERYBODY COMES OUT.
THE PAY WON PRICE COUPONS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CONTACT US.
I GAVE YOU GUYS POSTERS MM-HMM
AND YOU CAN CONTACT ME OR THE LION.
NEXT WE END UP BRIAN ESPARZA TO BE FOLLOWED BY, AND I THINK I'M READING THIS RIGHT, IT LOOKS LIKE I-N-E-T-T YTE.
OH, IS IT YVETTE? OH, THAT'S A V.
COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
MY NAME IS BRIAN ESPARZA AND I'M A RESIDENT OF NATIONAL CITY.
I'M HERE TODAY NOT TO SPEAK ABOUT A SPECIFIC ITEM OR MATTER ON THE AGENDA, BUT RATHER TO ADDRESS THE AGENDA ITSELF AND THE OVERALL STRUCTURE OF OUR CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS.
OVER THE PAST FEW WEEKS, I'VE MADE AN EFFORT TO PARTICIPATE IN PUBLIC CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS, IN THE HOPES TO EXERCISE MY RIGHTS TO THE CITY AS A RESIDENT AND TO CONTRIBUTE TO BUILDING A BETTER CITY FOR MYSELF AND FOR ALL RESIDENTS OF NATIONAL CITY.
HOWEVER, AS A NATIVE SPANISH SPEAKER WHO READS, WRITES, AND COMMUNICATES MORE EFFECTIVELY IN SPANISH THAN IN ENGLISH, I'VE ENCOUNTERED DIFFICULT CHALLENGES IN FULLY ENGAGING WITH THESE MEETINGS.
THE FIRST MAJOR OBSTACLE IS THE AGENDA, OTHER THAN THE THIRD AND FOURTH PAGES, WHICH PROVIDE BASIC INFORMATION IN SPANISH, THE REST OF THE AGENDA IS ONLY AVAILABLE IN ENGLISH.
WHILE I'VE TRIED DIFFERENT WAYS TO TRANSLATE THE AGENDA USING TOOLS ON MY DEVICES, THE FORM, THE FORMATTING IN WHICH IT IS UPLOADED MAKES IT VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO TRANSLATE.
THIS LIMITS MY ABILITY AND THAT OF MANY OTHER SIMILAR SITUATIONS TO FULLY UNDERSTAND THE ISSUES BEING DISCUSSED AND TO PROVIDE INFORMED PUBLIC COMMENT.
SECOND, WHILE I'VE RECENTLY LEARNED AND TRULY APPRECIATE THAT SPANISH SPEAKERS ARE ABLE TO MAKE COMMENTS IN SPANISH THROUGH LIVE INTERPRETATION, THIS SERVICE IS ONLY AVAILABLE FOR SPANISH SPEAKERS, SPEAKERS OF OTHER LANGUAGES IN OUR DIVER.
DIVERSE COMMUNITIES SUCH AS TAGALOG, VIETNAMESE, OR ARABIC, DO NOT HAVE THE SAME OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THEIR NATIVE LANGUAGE.
THIS CREATES A DISPARITY IN ACCESS AND EXCLUDES MANY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS FROM MEANINGFUL CIVIC ENGAGEMENT.
THIS STRUCTURE OF THESE MEETINGS AS IT STANDS, FAVOR ENGLISH SPEAKERS AND DOES NOT REFLECT THE LINGUISTIC DIVERSITY OF OUR CITY.
EVEN THOUGH I'M SPEAKING IN ENGLISH TODAY, I WANT TO BE CLEAR, THIS IS NOT EASY FOR ME.
AND I KNOW MANY OF MY COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO CAN WANT TO PARTICIPATE BUT CAN'T BECAUSE OF THESE BARRIERS.
UNDERSTANDING AND ANALYZING GOVERNMENT DOCUMENTS IS ESPECIALLY DIFFICULT IN, IN A SECOND LANGUAGE.
AND TRUE PARTICIPATION REQUIRES FULL COMPREHENSION.
THEREFORE, I RESPECTFULLY URGE THE CITY TO EXPAND LANGUAGE ACCESS BY PROVIDING AGENDAS AND OTHER MEETING MATERIALS IN MULTIPLE LANGUAGES, AND EXTENDING INTERPRETATION SERVICES BEYOND SPANISH.
DOING SO WOULD EMPOWER MORE RESIDENTS TO EXERCISE THEIR RIGHTS TO THE CITY AND CONTRIBUTE TO YOUR COMMENT, NATIONAL CITY.
NOW THEN, YVETTE, HOPEFULLY I GOT IT RIGHT NOW.
JUAN, MY NAME IS YVETTE AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK MIKA LUISA LA VISTA MEMORIAL PARK, AS WELL AS THE MEMBERS OF NATIONAL CITY FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TODAY.
I AM THE CONCIERGE FOR LA VISTA MEMORIAL PARK, AS WELL AS AN EDUCATOR COMMUNITY MEMBER OF THIS REGION WITH THE MASTERS IN PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION.
SINCE THE FIRST DAY THAT WE GOT THE ANNOUNCEMENT IN DECEMBER FROM MR. REED THAT THIS PROJECT WAS BEING CREATED DOWN THE STREET, UM, IT HAS BEEN A LONG BATTLE SINCE THEN.
I REMEMBER MEETING WITH MR. BUSH FOR AN INTERVIEW AT TERESA'S DAYCARE DECEMBER 10TH, WHICH WAS A MEANINGFUL EXPERIENCE GETTING THE INPUT FROM AN ACTIVE MEMBER RIGHT NEXT TO THE DEVELOPMENT PROJECT WHO FIRMLY REJECTED THE DESIGN IN ITS ENTIRETY.
WE ARE HERE TODAY TO GET TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY, AS A CITY, AND AS A FORCE TO TELL YOU, NO, WE FIRMLY OPPOSE THIS PROJECT AND WE BELIEVE IN RESIDENTIAL OPINION.
THAT'S AN, THAT'S AN AGENDA ITEM THAT WE'LL BE COVERING LATER.
FOREMOST, THE PEOPLE ARE ALLOWED TO SPEAK, TO EXPRESS THEIR OPINION AND TO CON BE CONSISTENT LIKE WE DEMAND YOU TO BE.
SO PLEASE ABIDE BY THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY AND PLEASE EXPRESS THEIR BEST INTEREST.
BECAUSE AS PROFESSIONALS, THAT IS OUR JOB.
WE ARE HERE ON A DAILY BASIS TO EXPRESS THE MOST OF WHAT WE CAN FROM OUR CHAIRS, FROM THE BEGINNING TO THE END.
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AM FROM TIJUANA, LIKE LOS ANGELES AND HERE IN SAN DIEGO.SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS COMMUNITY COME, WHERE THIS COMMUNITY COMES FROM AND WHAT IT NEEDS IN ORDER TO THRIVE.
WE ARE AT THE END OF THE HALF HOUR.
UH, THE REMAINDER OF THE SPEAKERS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, UH, BOTH IN, IN-HOUSE AND ALSO THOSE ARE ON ZOOM WILL BE, UH, UH, CARRIED OVER TO THE END OF THE MEETING.
[6.1 Employee of the Quarter - Lieutenant Wade Walters ]
GO ON NEXT TO, UH, THE PROCLAMATIONS AND, UH, RECOGNITION.AND WE HAVE AN EMPLOYEE OF THE QUARTER.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
I'D LIKE TO INVITE UP LIEUTENANT WADE WALTERS TO STAND NEXT TO ME AS I READ, UH, AN EXCERPT OF HIS, UH, WRITEUP.
ARE THEY RELATED? HE'S NOT USED TO THE LIME LIGHTS.
THE NATIONAL CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT PROUDLY NOMINATES LIEUTENANT WADE WALTERS FOR THE CITY'S PERFORMANCE RECOGNITION PROGRAM.
LIEUTENANT WALTERS BEGAN HIS CAREER WITH THE NATIONAL CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT ON AUGUST 24TH, 1999, AND HAS PROUDLY SERVED OUR COMMUNITY FOR OVER 25 YEARS.
DURING THIS TIME, LIEUTENANT WALTERS HAS HELD THE FOLLOWING POSITIONS, PATROL OFFICER, SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER, CANINE OFFICER, GANG ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, FIELD TRAINING OFFICER, CORPORAL DETECTIVE, PATROL SERGEANT, GANG ENFORCEMENT, TEAM SERGEANT, PATROL LIEUTENANT, AND INVESTIGATIONS LIEUTENANT.
THROUGHOUT HIS CAREER, LIEUTENANT WALTERS HAS BEEN KNOWN AS A TRUE CRIME FIGHTER AND IS HIGHLY REGARDED FOR HIS EXPERT KNOWLEDGE OF CRIMINAL STREET GANGS.
IN MARCH, 2019, THE SAN DIEGO POLICE DEPARTMENT BEGAN INVESTIGATING A STRING OF VIOLENT CRIMES TO INCLUDE MULTIPLE HOMICIDES, ATTEMPTED HOMICIDES, SERIOUS ASSAULTS, AND OTHER GANG RELATED FELONIES.
DURING THE COURSE OF THIS INVESTIGATION, IT WAS DETERMINED THAT MULTIPLE NATIONAL CITY GANG MEMBERS WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS ENTIRE STRING OF HORRIFIC EVENTS.
LED BY THEN SERGEANT WADE WALTERS, THE NATIONAL CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT'S GANG ENFORCEMENT TEAM, WORKED DIRECTLY WITH THE SAN DIEGO POLICE DEPARTMENT TO IDENTIFY AND ARREST EIGHT SUSPECTS IN THIS VIOLENT SERIES.
DURING THE INVESTIGATION, LIEUTENANT WALTERS WAS ASKED BY THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO TESTIFY IN FRONT OF THE GRAND JURY AS A GANG EXPERT IN APRIL, 2025.
THE SIX YEAR INVESTIGATION CULMINATED WITH A TWO AND A HALF, UH, MONTH LONG CRIMINAL TRIAL.
LIEUTENANT WALTERS TOOK THE STAND FOR TWO FULL DAYS AND PROVIDED CRUCIAL AND DAMNING TESTIMONY ABOUT THE DEFENDANTS.
IN THE END, THREE OF THE DEFENDANTS WERE CONVICTED OF MULTIPLE MURDERS AND OTHER GANG RELATED CRIMES, AND ARE FACING SENTENCES OF LIFE IN PRISON WITHOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF PAROLE.
THE OTHER FIVE SUSPECTS ARE FACING SENTENCES THAT RANGE FROM 12 YEARS TO 98 YEARS TO LIFE IN PRISON.
LIEUTENANT WALTERS IS HIS OUTSTANDING COMMITMENT TO PUBLIC SERVICE AND PROTECTING THIS COMMUNITY IS EXEMPLARY.
HIS HARD WORK, DEDICATION, KNOWLEDGE, AND COLLABORATION WAS CRUCIAL IN BRINGING THESE VIOLENT CRIMINALS TO JUSTICE.
IT IS FOR THESE REASONS AND MANY OTHERS THAT THE NATIONAL CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT PROUDLY NOMINATES LIEUTENANT WADE WALTERS AS THE EMPLOYEE OF THE QUARTER MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.
TO THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THE NATIONAL CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE NATIONAL CITY COMMUNITY, UH, IT'S TRULY BEEN MY GREAT HONOR TO SERVE YOU AND TO WORK ALONGSIDE, UH, THE MEN AND WOMEN OF OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.
SO WHAT'S THAT BOTTOM? WE ALSO HAVE A CERTIFICATE MEMORIAL MEMORIALIZED TODAY.
HE, YEAH, HE, HE, HE NEEDS PROTECTION.
I ACTUALLY, ACTUALLY GET IN FRONT OF THAT.
EVERYONE GETS A KICK OUTTA DOING THAT.
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SAY THAT.WHERE'S YOUR WORK? GET UP HERE, CODY.
NOW, NOW THEY COULD HAVE SAID FOR THAT SELFIE THAT YEAH, EVERY FIREMAN'S GOT THE POLICE AT THEIR BACK, COVERING THEIR BACK.
UH, NEXT WE DO HAVE A PROCLAMATION.
AND, UH, THIS ONE'S NOT OVERLY WORDY, SO I'LL ACTUALLY READ IT IN THIS CASE ON MAYOR, THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA.
YOU'LL SEE WHY, UH, ON JANUARY THE FIRST, UH, 1863, PRESIDENT ABRAHAM LINCOLN ISSUED THE EMANCIPATION PROCLAMATION DECLARING THAT ALL PERSONS HELD AS SLAVES IN CONFEDERATE STATES WERE TO BE SET FREE BEGINNING THE PROCESS OF ENDING SLAVERY IN THE UNITED STATES.
THE CIVIL WAR ENDED WITH THE SURRENDER OF CONFEDERATE GENERAL ROBERT LEE AT APPOMATTOX COURTHOUSE.
IT WASN'T THE COURTHOUSE THAT'S, THAT WAS THE TOWN'S NAME.
UM, ON, UH, APRIL 9TH, 1865, NEWS OF THE EMANCIPATION PROCLAMATION FINALLY REACHED TEXAS ON JUNE 19TH, DIDN'T HAVE INTERNET IN THOSE DAYS OF 1865 WHEN UNION GENERAL GORDON GRANGER ARRIVED IN GALVESTON BAY WITH FEDERAL TROOPS AND ANNOUNCED THE PEOPLE OF TEXAS ARE INFORMED THAT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROCLAMATION OF THE EXECUTIVE OF THE UNITED STATES, ALL SLAVES ARE FREED.
THE CELEBRATION OF THAT DAY, KNOWN AS JUNETEENTH HAS BECOME THE OLDEST NATIONALLY CELEBRATED COMMEMORATION OF THE ENDING OF SLAVERY.
JUNETEENTH NOT ONLY MARKS A SIGNIFICANT MOMENT IN AFRICA, IN IN AMERICAN HISTORY, BUT ALSO CELEBRATES AFRICAN AMERICAN FREEDOM, HERITAGE, AND ACHIEVEMENTS, RECOGNIZING THE STRENGTHS, RESILIENCE, AND, AND CONTRIBUTIONS OF BLACK COMMUNITIES.
JUNETEENTH SERVES A REMINDER OF THE ONGOING PURSUIT OF EQUITY, JUSTICE, AND OPPORTUNITY THAT LIES IN THE HEART OF THE AMERICAN PROMISE.
A PURSUIT EXEMPLIFIED BY LEADERS LIKE ROOSEVELT WILLIAMS III, WHOSE PRESENCE WITH US TODAY HONORS THE SPIRIT OF THIS CO, UH, COMMEMORATION AND REINFORCES OUR COLLECTIVE COM, UH, COMMITMENT TO THESE ENDURING IDOLS.
AND THEREFORE WE'RE DECLARING, UM, JU UH, JUNE 19TH, WHICH WILL BE THIS THURSDAY AS JUNETEENTH DAY IN THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY.
UH, IT'S A HUGE HONOR TO, UH, TO BE HERE BY MYSELF, BUT REPRESENTING SO MANY, YOU KNOW, UM, IT'S DEFINITELY A SERVICE.
AND THAT'S WHAT I WANNA TALK TO YOU ALL ABOUT TODAY.
JUST REAL BRIEFLY, THAT YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ACTUALLY JUMPING ON A GRENADE FOR US ALL.
YOU ARE REPRESENTING US ALL DOING WHAT'S RIGHT, EVEN WHEN NO ONE'S LOOKING, PRACTICING INTEGRITY.
UM, MAYOR, I DEFINITELY WANNA SAY THANK YOU PERSONALLY.
UH, YOU'VE BEEN ON THE PHONE WITH ME FOR ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF, REALLY JUST, UH, HEARING ME OUT, GIVING ME A LISTENING TOUR.
AND I'VE BEEN ABLE TO, UH, TO GROW, YOU KNOW, WITH YOU ETHICALLY, MORALLY, UH, INTEGRITY.
UM, SOMETHING THAT YOU HAD TAUGHT ME.
IT'S ABOUT STARTING WITH A COMMITMENT, DELIVERING WITH QUALITY, AND ULTIMATELY FINISHING WITH SUCCESS.
YOU KNOW, UH, JUST NOT TODAY, BUT ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS I'VE SEEN YOUR CHARACTER, I'VE SEEN, UH, YOUR CULTURE.
I'VE SEEN YOU TAKE CARE OF COMMUNITY, AND I'VE ALSO SEEN YOU TAKE CARE OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS, YOU KNOW, UH, AND THAT'S PARALLEL TO MY VISION AND TO OUR VISION HERE ON JUNETEENTH IS COLOR, CULTURE, AND CONSCIOUSNESS.
SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU WITH A THOUSAND TONGUES.
I ALSO WANNA THANK YOU THE TEAMMATES THAT'S UP HERE AS WELL, BECAUSE WE HAVE A DUTY EVERY SINGLE DAY.
I WAS ALMOST BROUGHT TO TEARS WHEN I HEARD THE, THE PRAYER TODAY, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE A LOT OF CITIES ARE NOT DOING THAT.
AND ME PERSONALLY, I'M ALL ABOUT FAITH.
I'M ALL ABOUT FAMILY, AND I'M ALL ABOUT FREEDOM.
SO AGAIN, UH, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU AGAIN.
YOU KNOW, WITH A THOUSAND TONGUES AND YOU HAVE A GREAT STAFF, YOU
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KNOW, JOSIE CLARK, SHE'S BEEN THERE AS WELL.I'VE SEEN HER DO THE RIGHT THING EVEN WHEN NO ONE WAS LOOKING MULTIPLE TIMES.
EVEN, UH, EMBRACING MY FAMILY, UH, OUR COMMUNITY.
I LIKE TO SAY THE COLOR BLACK ENCOMPASSES ALL.
AND, UH, I DON'T WANNA BE TOO EQUATIONS BECAUSE I KNOW WE GOT A LONG DAY HERE, LONG, EVEN HERE,
BUT, UH, I JUST WANNA SAY THIS IS NOT ABOUT ME.
AND AGAIN, I WANNA SAY THANK YOU
WELL, I, WELL, A COUPLE THINGS.
FIRST OF ALL, COULD YOU INTRODUCE YOUR POSSE THAT YOU BROUGHT WITH YOU HERE? OH, MY TEAMMATES? YEAH.
WELL, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE MY HEIRS,
'CAUSE AT THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY WE GOT A HUNDRED YEAR PLAN.
SO, SO THIS IS ALINA ROSE, UH, WILLIAMS RIGHT HERE.
AND THIS IS MY SON, ROOSEVELT WILLIAMS THE FOURTH.
AND, UH, AND I GOT MY SMOKING HOT WIFE HERE IN THE BACK AS WELL.
SO, YOU KNOW WHAT? IT'S A TEAM EFFORT, SIR.
IF YOU WANNA TURN AROUND, STAND IN FRONT THERE, BECAUSE THIS DOESN'T COVER YOU UP.
THERE YOU'RE STAND RIGHT HERE.
AND ON, UH, ON THURSDAY, THE, UH, JUNETEENTH FLAG WILL BE RAISED, UH, IN FRONT OF CITY HALL.
[8. REGIONAL BOARDS AND COMMITTEE REPORTS (Limited to Five (5) Minutes each)]
NEXT WE GO ON TO REGIONAL BOARDS AND COMMITTEE REPORTS.AND I'LL START DOWN HERE TO MY LEFT.
I ATTENDED THE, UH, SANDAG SHORELINE PRESERVATION GROUP MEETING, UH, TWO WEEKS AGO, WHERE WE DISCUSSED HEAVILY A INVESTMENT INTO EXPANDING THE SHORELINE OF, UM, OCEAN BEACH, UH, THE NORTH AND SOUTH SIDE.
IT IS A, UH, LONGSTANDING PROJECT, UH, FOR SANDAG AND FOR THE SHORELINE PRESERVATION GROUP TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR SHORELINE IS PROTECTED REGIONALLY, REALIZING THAT IT'S NOT ONLY HEALTHY AND GOOD FOR THAT COMMUNITY, BUT IT IS A REGIONAL ASSET FOR US THROUGH SAN DIEGO COUNTY.
AND, UM, UH, THE COUNCIL MEMBERS FROM, UH, OCEANSIDE WERE VERY, VERY HAPPY WITH US, UH, CONTINUING TO FUND AND SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.
UM, METRO WASTE WATER, JPA NO REPORT NOR NO, UH, REPORTABLE ITEM.
UM, WE, UH, THE, THE BOARD HAD, UH, APPROVED AND ADOPTED A, UH, RESOLUTION APPROVING THE FINANCIAL POLICIES AND THE FINANCIAL POSITION AND THE FINANCIAL BUDGET FOR THE ORGANIZATION OR FOR THE AGENCY, UM, THE OTHER AGENCIES.
I WILL HAVE THE MEETING NEXT WEEK.
UM, I HAD THE SANDAG BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING, UH, LAST FRIDAY.
WE TALKED ABOUT ALL OF THE STANDARD THINGS.
THERE WILL BE A COMMUNITY MEETING THIS THURSDAY, I BELIEVE.
I WAS TRYING TO COME UP WITH THE DEED DETAILS, BUT MY INTERNET ISN'T HOOKED UP YET.
UM, THIS THURSDAY THERE WILL BE A COMMUNITY MEETING WITH, UM, SANDAG TO DISCUSS, UH, WITH THE COMMUNITY, THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION PLAN.
IT WILL BE HERE AT THE LIBRARY IN NATIONAL CITY.
UH, THE COMMUNITY IS WELCOME TO ATTEND.
I BELIEVE IT'S AT 6:00 PM I'LL GET THE DETAILS FOR YOU AND, AND REPORT OUT AT THE END OF THE MEETING.
AND, UM, THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MEETING FOR THIS FRIDAY IS CANCELED.
SO, FOR AIR POLLUTION CONTROL DISTRICT, WE HAD TWO MAJOR ITEMS. ONE OF THE ITEMS WAS EVALUATION OF OUR CEO, WHICH IS, UH, OUR AIR POLLUTION PATROL OFFICER.
SO THAT'S AN ANNUAL EVALUATION.
UH, THIS IS IN A CLOSED SESSION AND IS ASSOCIATED WITH, UM, AN INCREASE WHICH WE PROVIDED AND WE MADE A, UH, ADOPTED OUR FINAL BUDGET.
UH, LAST WEEK I WAS REPRESENTING, UH, SANDAG UP IN, UH, SEATTLE, UH, FOR THE, UH, YEARLY, UH, CONFERENCE OF THE, UH, NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF REGIONAL, UH, COUNCILS.
SO ALL OF THE SAND EGGS THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES.
SO ALL THE REGIONAL GROUPS, UH, WHAT THEY CALL COGS, CONGRESS OF GOVERNMENTS, AND ALSO NPOS, MUNICIPAL PLANNING ORGANIZATIONS.
UM, AND SO I WAS REPRESENTING THEM UP THERE.
I ALSO SERVE ON THEIR EXECUTIVE, UH, THEIR EXECUTIVE BOARD AND AS A, UH, PAST PRESIDENT OF THAT NATIONAL GOVERNMENTAL ORGANIZATION.
SO IT WAS, UH, UM, AND ALL I, ALL I CAN SAY, AND I'LL JUST SUMMARIZE REAL QUICKLY, YOU KNOW, WE LOOK AT A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON LOCALLY AND WE, AND WE IN CALIFORNIA AND EVERYTHING ELSE, GUESS WHAT? WE'RE NOT ALONE.
I HEARD THE SAME COMPLAINTS JUST ABOUT EV FROM ELECTED OFFICIALS, JUST ABOUT EVERY SPOT IN THE UNITED STATES, UH, HAD, YOU KNOW, THEY MIGHT AS WELL HAVE BEEN LIVING IN OUR BACKYARDS.
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UH, SO IT'S, UH, UH, SO YEAH, THERE WAS A, A LOT OF, A LOT OF SHIFT GOING ON AND, AND PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO, UH, TRYING TO ADJUST TO IT OR SEE HOW, OR SEE WHICH, YOU KNOW, WHERE, WHERE'S THAT, WHERE'S THE PENDULUM, YOU KNOW, HAS MOVED UP HERE, BUT IS IT GETTING READY TO GO BACK THIS WAY OR THIS WAY? AND HOW, HOW DO WE DEAL WITH ALL THESE THINGS WITH A LOT OF NEW IDEAS AND A LOT OF NEW CONCEPTS? AND, UM, BUT ANYWAY, IT'S INTERESTING WHEN YOU GET TO GET TOGETHER WITH ALL THOSE OTHER INDIVIDUALS AND YOU GET TO SEE THAT, THAT COMMONALITY.SO THERE WAS, THAT ALSO HAD A, UH, UH, A BUDGET MEETING YESTERDAY FOR THE REGIONAL SOLID WASTE ASSOCIATION THAT WE BELONG TO.
AND THAT I CHAIR, UM, UH, WE HAD IT UP IN POWAY EIGHT O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING.
SO I GOT, I GOT, UH, FREQUENT FLYER MILES FOR GOING UP THERE.
AND, UM, UH, BUT AS I SAY, WE WENT AND DID A TWO YEAR BUDGET, WHICH IS GONNA CONTINUE TO SECURE THE MONEY THAT THAT'S COMING FROM THAT ORGANIZATION BACK TO NATIONAL CITY FOR, FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS.
AND SO THAT WILL BE VOTED ON BY OUR BOARD NEXT WEEK, AS A MATTER OF FACT.
UH, THE THINGS COMING OUT OF THE, UH, THE BUDGET HEARING WITH THAT, UM, I BELIEVE THAT'S EVERYTHING ON THAT ONE.
[9. CONSENT CALENDAR]
NEXT WE GO INTO CONSENT CALENDAR, AND ITEMS NINE ONE THROUGH NINE 14.I DO HAVE REQUESTS FOR 9, 5, 9, 10, 11, 13, AND 14.
I HAVE PUBLIC REQUEST FOR THOSE.
UM, AND I DON'T, NO, I THINK THAT'S ALL IN THE NINE SERIES.
UM, SO WITH THAT, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE ANYONE WOULD LIKE? OH, JUST THAT I WANTED TO PULL, SORRY.
JUST THAT I WANTED TO PULL 9.5 FOR DISCUSSION.
THAT WAS ALREADY, ALREADY THERE.
NO, WE'RE IN, WE'RE IN THE NINES RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE IN THE CONSIDER THAT'S PUBLIC RECORD.
WELL, UNLESS THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE, COULD I HAVE A MOTION ON THE REMAINDER OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR? SO MOVE MR. MAY SECOND.
UM, OH, WELL WE ACTUALLY GOT CLEAR TO THAT.
SO YOU, NO OTHER DISCUSSION, PLEASE VOTE.
[9.5 Approval of an Agreement Amendment with Liebert Cassidy Whitmore for Legal Services in the Specialized Area of Labor Negotiations by Extending the Agreement to December 31, 2025.]
NEXT WE GO IN, UH, TO THOSE, THE REMAINING ITEMS. FIRST ONE IS NINE FIVE APPROVAL OF AGREEMENT AMENDMENT WITH LIBERT CASSIDY WHITMORE FOR LEGAL SERVICES IN THE SPECIALIZED AREA OF LABOR NEGOTIATIONS.AND THAT EXTENDS THE CONTRACT, UH, THROUGH THE END OF THE YEAR.
UM, ANY RE REPORT ON THAT FROM STAFF? NOT, I WILL TAKE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
UH, WE HAVE, UH, THOMAS FRANK.
UH, I JUST WANNA INFORM YOU WHAT THE RATE SCHEDULE IS FOR THESE FOR, FOR LIEBERT.
CASTY AND WHITMORE ASSOCIATE GETS A PARTNER GETS $440 AN HOUR.
AN ASSOCIATE GETS TWO SEVENTY TWO SEVENTY TWO, THREE HUNDRED AND FORTY $5 AN HOUR, AND A LABOR'S RELATION GETS TWO 80 AN HOUR AND PARALEGALS GET ONE 50.
NOW, THEY ALL REPRESENT THE CITY COUNCIL VERY WELL IN GIVING YOU GOOD, GOOD SALARIES.
BUT THIS IS FOR LABOR RELATIONS, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
THIS IS THE, THE ONGOING, UH, LABOR DISCUSSIONS WITH CONTRACTS WITH OUR DIFFERENT BARGAINING UNITS.
THEY DON'T COVER YOU? NO, NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT.
WE DON'T GET SALARIES LIKE THAT.
UM, VICE MAYOR BUSH? YES, I, IN SUPPORTIVE OF THE ITEM, BUT NOT OF THE, UH, WANTED TO DISCUSS WITH MY, UH, COLLEAGUES IS ADJUSTING THE DATE.
SO THE PROPOSAL IS TO EXTEND THIS TO, UH, DECEMBER 31ST.
BUT I THINK, UM, GIVEN THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PUSH LABOR NEGOTIATIONS WITHOUT GETTING INTO TOO MANY DETAIL, I, I, UH, OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE THIS IS CLOSED SESSION MATERIALS, I WOULD RATHER I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE EXTENSION, BUT HAVE IT AUGUST 30TH INSTEAD, SINCE WE'RE MEETING IN AUGUST, WE HAVE JULY RECESS.
I THINK THAT GIVES ENOUGH TIME TO STILL, IF WE NEED TO CONSIDER ANOTHER EXTENSION, WE CONSIDER WHEN WE MEET IN AUGUST.
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BUT, UM, UH, COMMENT.THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, UH, BRINGING IT UP.
I THINK IT IS CERTAINLY, UM, UH, MY WISH TO, TO, YOU KNOW, GET THESE DONE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
AND I DO THINK THAT WE SHARE THAT.
SO, UM, I, I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE YOU ALL PULLING THE ITEM AND I DO ECHO THE SENTIMENTS.
AS I UNDERSTAND THE MOTION, AS YOU SAID THOUGH, IT WOULD GO THROUGH THE END OF AUGUST FOR THIS, FOR THIS EXTENSION, AND THEN BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE TWO MEETINGS IN AUGUST AND THEN NECESSARY, WE CAN'T SEE IF WE'RE, IF THINGS, IF THINGS ARE CONTINUED TO BE NEEDED, WE CAN GO BEYOND THAT POINT.
AS LONG AS THAT WAS THE INTENT, UH, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, PLEASE VOTE.
MOTION PASSES WITH THE ADJUSTMENT OF THE DATE TO AUGUST 30TH.
[9.10 Third Amendment to the Agreement with Southwest Traffic Signal Service, Inc. for Traffic Signal and Streetlight Maintenance Services]
NEXT WE GO TO NINE POINT 10.THIS IS THE THIRD AMENDMENT OF THE AGREEMENT WITH SOUTHWEST TRAFFIC SIGNAL SERVICES FOR TRAFFIC SIGNAL AND STREETLIGHT MAINTENANCE SERVICES.
I, I JUST WANT TO INFORM YOU THAT THERE ARE EIGHT TRAFFIC SIGNALS AND 736 STREET LIGHTS AND SOUTHWEST TRAFFIC SIGNAL SERVICE GETS $1,400,000 FOR THAT.
WELL THAT'S, I, IT'S, THAT'S THE MAXIMUM THEY CAN GET, BUT 1000, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT.
UM, COUNSEL, WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE? ANY DISCUSSION OR DO WE HAVE A MOTION? MR. CHAIR? MM-HMM
WE HAVE A SECOND AND WE HAVE A SECOND.
SEEING NO OTHER DISCUSSION, PLEASE VOTE.
MOTION PASSES WITH THOSE PRESENT.
THIS IS WARRANT REGISTRY NUMBER 42 FOR THE PERIOD OF, UH, UH, APRIL THE 11TH THROUGH APRIL 17TH.
[9.11 Third Amendment with San Diego Mechanical and Energy, Inc. for Facilities HVAC and Related Services]
UH, YEAH, NINE 11 IS THE THIRD AMENDMENT WITH THE SAN DIEGO MECHANICAL AND ENGINEERING INCORPORATED FOR FACILITIES, UH, HVAC AND RELATED SERVICES.I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT, THAT THE, THESE, THIS COME COVERS THE HVAC.
LET'S SEE WHERE HVAC SERVICES FOR 27 FACILITIES, THIS BUILDING AND THE LIBRARY AND 27 OTHER FACILITIES.
NOW REALIZE ALL OF THESE, THEY'RE NOT, THAT'S NOT THE AMOUNT OF THE CONTRACT, IT'S UP TO THAT AMOUNT.
SO IT DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH WORK THEY DO.
SO THAT WOULD BE THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT THEY COULD GET PAID.
BUT DON'T COUNT ON IT THROUGH THE CHAIR.
REICH RE MR. REICH, THIS IS THE THIRD.
THEY'RE DOING THE SERVICES ALREADY, SIR.
OF THE, OF THE FACILITIES OF THE CITY.
BUT IT, THERE'S ANOTHER EXTENSION THAT'S GONNA END.
UM, SO WE NEED TO EXTEND THAT.
AND AS I SAY, THIS IS, THAT'S NOT SAYING THAT WE'RE PAYING ON THAT AMOUNT.
THAT IS THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT THAT THEY COULD GET.
DID WE, DO WE HAVE A VOTE ON THAT ONE YET? NOT YET.
LET'S, WE NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND.
SECOND AS SOON AS I SHOW UP HERE SO WE CAN, OOPS.
[9.13 Warrant Register No. 42 for the Period of 4/11/25 through 4/17/25 in the Amount of $2,108,805.12]
NOW WE GO TO NINE 13.THIS IS WARRANT REGISTRY NUMBER 42.
HI, THIS IS, THIS IS WARRANT REGISTER NINE 13.
AND THESE ARE THE IMPORTANT THINGS THAT I'VE FOUND THAT, THAT, UH, I WANNA REPORT.
UH, PROJECT PROFESSIONAL, AL PROFESSIONAL SERVICE FOR ARTS FOR ARTS WAS $7,000 ANSWER ADVISORY MANAGEMENT, $8,080,000 OR APPROXIMATELY $80,000 FOR, FOR DANIEL FOR THE HOTEL.COM.
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$1,400 HOTELS.COM FOR CONGRESSMAN BUSH 1818 $17.AND THE DOUBLETREE, THE DOUBLETREE THREE ITEMS FOR THE FIRE FRESNO SYSTEM POSITION FOR $1,800 BUT 300 370 $1 WAS REFUNDED AND STS TRAFFIC.
EIGHTH, EIGHTH AND HARBOR DRIVE.
B-N-C-B-N-B, BURLINGTON NORTHERN SANTA FE, 54,000.
THE CIVIL LAW GROUP, 3,500 SMA, REAL ESTATE ADVISORY CONSULTING SERVICES, $10,880.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE C-D-D-C-D-W-G, SAMSUNG TV PRINTER, $5,000 ANSWERED.
ADVISORY MANAGEMENT, CLOSED CIRCUIT TELEVISION, $46,000.
AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, LONG BEACH TRAINING, HIGH REGENCY.
AND THAT'S FOR, THAT'S FOR NINE 13.
OKAY, WHY DON'T YOU GO AHEAD AND DO NINE 14 WHILE YOU'RE AT IT.
CONSTRUCTION CENTRAL COMMUNITY ENHANCEMENT, A DM IMPROVEMENT, 176,000 UNITED BRUSH BROOMS FOR THE STREET SWEEPER $4,511.
MECHANICAL PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE.
AND THAT'S, THANK, THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I HAVE, OR THANK YOU.
SO IF YOU GUYS DON'T MIND, WE'LL TAKE, UH, 9 13, 9 14 TOGETHER.
UH, APPRECIATE THE ACCOUNTABILITY SCRUTINY.
UH, SO JUST RESPOND TO WHAT THE COSTS WERE FOR HOTEL.
SO THAT WAS FOR, UH, THROUGH MTS.
UH, THOSE COSTS ARE FULLY REIMBURSABLE, SO WE JUST NEED TO, UH, SUBMIT THE, THE RECEIPTS TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.
SO WE EXPECT TO BE REIMBURSED IN THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS.
SO THIS WAS FOR APTA, THE AMERICAN PUBLIC TRANSIT ASSOCIATION CONFERENCE THAT WAS HELD.
IT'S HELD EVERY YEAR, AND IT WAS HELD THIS YEAR IN APRIL AND AUSTIN.
SO, UH, JUST FY THAT'S WHAT IT'S FOR.
THIS IS FOR NINE 13 AND LINE 14.
[10.1 2025 Development Impact Fee Study and Update]
NEXT WE GO INTO OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS.FIRST ONE IS ON IMPACT STUDY AND UPDATE.
AND, UH, THIS IS BASICALLY TO APPROVE CONTINUANCE OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING.
IF IT WAS NOTICE OF THIS MEETING, UH, IT'S NOT YET HAVE AUGUST 5TH.
SO, FIRST OF ALL, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING BACK IN.
ARE WE GONNA CLOSE OR CONTINUE? WE DON'T HAVE TO, WE DON'T HAVE TO OPEN IT OR CLOSE IT.
WE JUST NEED TO A MOTION TO, TO CON TO CONTINUE IT.
WELL, IN THAT CASE, CAN WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONTINUANCE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING TO AUGUST THE FIFTH.
WE'LL MAKE IT FIRST AND SECOND.
[10.2 Public Hearing to Consider Confirming Weed Abatement Costs, Approving the Report and Accounting. ]
YOU TEN TWO.UH, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AFFIRMING THE LEAD ABATEMENT COSTS APPROVING THE REPORT.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER, CITY STAFF, AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
I'M GONNA TURN THIS OVER TO OUR ACTING DEPUTY FIRE MARSHAL TO MY RIGHT, AND HE'LL INFORM YOU ON, UH, ON THIS ITEM.
UH, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, CITY
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COUNCIL, UH, CITY STAFF AND RESIDENTS OF NATIONAL CITY.MY NAME IS EDDIE SANCHEZ AND I AM YOUR ACTING DEPUTY FIRE MARSHAL.
UH, I AM HERE THIS EVENING TO PRESENT THE 2025 READ ABATEMENT HEARING STATS, WHICH REFLECT ACTIVITY DURING THE 2024 CALENDAR YEAR.
BEFORE I GET INTO THE NUMBERS, I'D LIKE TO OFFER OR TO OFFER A BRIEF REMINDER ON HOW PROPERTIES ENTER THIS WEED ABATEMENT PROCESS.
THERE ARE TWO WAYS THAT EACH PROPERTY WILL ENTER THIS PROCESS.
FIRST WAY IS FIRE PREVENTION SERVICES, WHO IS OUR CONTRACTOR.
FPS PROVIDES CITY US FIRE DEPARTMENT A LIST OF POTENTIAL VIOLATIONS WITHIN OUR CITY LIMITS.
ONCE RECEIVED, WE AS FIRE DEPARTMENT VERIFY THE VIOLATIONS IF VERIFIED.
WE GIVE FPS THE GO AHEAD TO ISSUE FORMAL NOTICES TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS.
THE SECOND WAY IS WE GET COMPLAINTS THAT COME IN VIA C CLICK FIX EMAILS OF CUSTOMERS THAT COME INTO THE COUNTER, UH, PHONE CALLS, UH, MULTIPLE CHANNELS THAT WE GET COMPLAINTS.
WE AS FIRE DEPARTMENT PHYSICALLY VERIFY EACH COMPLAINT.
AND IF CONFIRMED, THEIR PROPERTY IS THEN REPORTED TO FIRE PREVENTION SERVICES.
UH, FOR NOTICING THE TIMELINE FOR THE NOTICE IS THE FIRST NOTICE GIVES THE PROPERTY OWNER 30 DAYS, UH, TO COMPLY, IF NOT CORRECTED WITHIN THE 30 DAYS.
FIRE PREVENTION SERVICES THEN POSTS A NOTICE TO ABATE HAZARD ON THE PROPERTY.
THAT GIVES THEM A 10 DAY COMPLIANCE WINDOW.
THEY'RE IN THE 10 DAY, THE 10 DAY PERIOD.
FIRE PREVENTION SERVICES USES, UH, COUNTY RECORDS.
UH, THEY GO TO THE COUNTY, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE THE MOST UPDATED COUNTY RECORDS.
'CAUSE WHAT THEY DO IS THEY SEND CERTIFIED MAIL TO THE CURRENT PROPERTY OWNER.
AFTER 10 DAYS, A REINSPECTION IS CONDUCTED.
IF ABATED, AN ADMINISTRATIVE FEE IS NOW ASSESSED, IF NOT, A WORK AUTHORIZATION IS SIGNED BY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT PERSONNEL FOR FORCE ABATEMENT.
SO, IF YOU KNOW THERE IS 10, LET'S SAY, UH, THE INSPECTOR FROM FPS WILL CALL ME, OR OUR DEPUTY FIRE MARSHAL ROBERT DREW, WE'LL MEET 'EM ON SITE, AND IF THEY HAVEN'T CORRECTED THE ITEMS, WE'LL SIGN THE WORK AUTHORIZATION.
SO NONE OF THIS STUFF IS DONE WITHOUT US GOING OUT AND PHYSICALLY VERIFYING, UH, THESE PROPERTIES.
SO I WANT TO ALSO MAKE A MENTION THAT DURING THIS WHOLE PROCESS, IF NEEDED, ANY RESIDENT, ANY PROPERTY OWNER CAN CALL FPS ON THE NOTICE ABATEMENT THAT THEY GET.
AND FPS IS, IS, UH, WE'LL WORK WITH ANY PROPERTY OWNER TO PROVIDE ANY TYPE OF EXTENSIONS, WHICH WE'VE HAD WORKED WITH IN THE PAST, AS IN SOMEONE'S GOING OUTTA TOWN, SOMEONE GOT HURT, OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
SO, FPS IS REALLY GOOD AT WORKING AND PROVIDING EXTENSIONS IF NEEDED.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE A YEAR TO YEAR COMPARISON.
SO, LAST YEAR WE HAD 468 PROPERTIES THAT RECEIVED NOTICES.
UH, 393 OF THOSE PROPERTIES WERE VOLUNTARILY ABATED.
UH, 53 OF THOSE PROPERTIES REQUIRED AGENCY ABATEMENT, 18 PROPERTIES LAST YEAR WERE BROUGHT TO THE HEARING AND ONE WAS REMOVED, UH, FOR PAYMENT PRIOR TO THE HEARING.
UH, THIS YEAR WE HAVE 756 PROPERTIES, UH, RECEIVED NOTICES, WHICH IS AN INCREASE OF 61%.
376 OF THOSE PROPERTIES WERE VOLUNTARILY ABATED.
UH, 69 OF THEM REQUIRED, UH, AGENCY ABATEMENT AND 24 OF THEM WERE ACTUALLY SCHEDULED FOR THE HEARING.
UM, BUT ONE WAS REMOVED PRIOR.
UH, ROME WAS REMOVED FOR, UH, FOR PAYMENT PRIOR TO COMING TO CITY COUNCIL.
UH, 14 OF THOSE ARE VACANT LOTS.
ONE OF THOSE IS A VACANT, BOARDED UP HOME.
UH, TWO OF THOSE PROPERTIES ARE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES.
UH, LASTLY I'D LIKE TO MENTION THAT 17 OF THE 23 PROPERTIES ARE THAT ARE IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY ARE OWNED BY INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE, THAT ARE, UM, OUTSIDE OF THE CITIES.
17 OF THE 23 PROPERTIES ARE OWNED BY INDIVIDUALS ARE ENTITIES OUTSIDE THE CITY.
UH, 10 OF THE PROPERTIES IN FRONT OF YOU, UM, HAVE BEEN ABATED MORE THAN ONCE.
SO MULTIPLE REPEAT OFFENDERS, UH, SEVEN CA SEVEN OF THE CASES IN FRONT OF YOU AS WELL ARE FOR ADMINISTRATIVE FEES ONLY.
MEANING THAT WHEN WE WENT BACK FOR THE REINSPECTION, IT WAS COMPLETED.
SO NOW IT'S AN ADMINISTRATIVE FEE.
UH, THESE FIGURES DEMONSTRATE THE INCREASING VOLUMES OF CASES WE ARE HANDLING, UNDERSCORING THE IMPORTANCE OF ENFORCEMENT FOR FIRE SAFETY AND COMMUNITY UPKEEP.
UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY.
UM, CLARIFICATION QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT IS PUBLIC HEARING.
I DO HAVE ONE SPEAKER, BUT ANY CLARIFICATION QUESTION OR DO YOU WANNA UH, YES.
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US OPEN, OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.UM, SO THEREFORE I OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE HAVE MR. THOMAS REICH.
I'M KIND OF, I'M GONNA, THEY'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK, BUT I'M KIND OF DISAGREE WITH THEM.
FIRST OF ALL, THIS, ANY, IF, IF THEY, IF THEY, IF THEY'RE CHARGED $250 IS A MINIMUM FEE FOR THIS.
IF YOU GET A VIOLATION AND THEY'VE TAKEN A PICTURE OF EVERY, EVERY, EVERY WEED IN SAN DIEGO, IT'S ABOUT 20 PAGES OF 20 PAGES IN THE, IN THE PDF AND I.
SOME OF THESE PICTURES, THEY AREN'T BAD.
BUT THEN WHEN THEY TAKE AWAY THE WEEDS, THERE'S JUST GROUND AND IT'S DUST.
I MEAN, THE, THE VEGETATION WOULD BE BETTER THAN JUST THE DIRT ON THE GROUND.
AND I DON'T THINK THESE WEEDS, I DON'T THINK WEEDS ARE, UH, THEY'RE NOT BAD TO LOOK AT IT.
THAT'S THE ONLY THING I HAVE TO SAY.
JUST REALIZING THIS IS ABOUT FIRE ABATEMENT AND, UH, UH, NOT, UM, FOR THAT PURPOSE.
WITH THAT, UH, THAT'S THE ONLY SPEAKER WE HAVE.
CAN WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
WE NEED, DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.
THAT WAS TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND NOW WE CAN HAVE, UH, ANY CONVERSATION ON THIS, WHATEVER.
I'M GONNA START DOWN ON THE END AND WORK OUR WAY THIS WAY.
AND, UM, MR. REICH, THE REPORT THAT I'M LOOKING AT, UM, IS ACTUALLY 765 PAGES, THE PDF.
I MEAN, THE TEAM HERE IN NATIONAL CITY DID AMASS ALL OF THIS INFORMATION.
THERE IS A LOT OF SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION FOR THE LIST OF, UH, 23 PARCELS ON THIS LIST THAT DOES SUPPORT ALL OF THE WORK THAT HAS GONE INTO, UM, THESE PROPERTIES, UH, THAT ARE REQUIRING ALL OF THIS WORK.
UH, ONE QUESTION HERE IS, HAVE THESE PROPERTIES BEEN CLEARED UP NOW, OR, OR IS THAT WORK STILL GONNA HAPPEN? UH, THE PROPERTIES HAVE BEEN CLEARED UP.
UH, THAT'S WHY IT WAS A FORCED ABATEMENT.
AND THAT'S WHY THEY'RE, UH, HERE IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY.
AND SO THE FEES HERE HAVE YET TO BE COLLECTED, CORRECT.
AND, UM, I IMAGINE THERE IS, UH, I MEAN THE, THERE THEY WILL BE COLLECTED.
UH, THERE IS, IS THERE TROUBLE GETTING PAYMENT BACK? NO, IT WILL BE COLLECTED.
IT DOES ROLL INTO THEIR TAX LIEN.
AND YOU DID MENTION THE REPEAT OFFENDERS.
I THINK YOU SAID 10 ON THIS LIST RIGHT NOW ARE REPEAT OFFENDERS.
THERE'S 10 CURRENTLY ON THIS LIST.
UM, SOME HAVE BEEN ON THIS LIST FOR THREE YEARS.
UH, BUT WE DO HAVE A LIST OF, OF THE REPEAT OFFENDERS.
UH, AND, AND MR. REG, I JUST WANNA ADDRESS, UH, THE COMMENT ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE, THE REASON THIS IS A BIG CONCERN IS, IS FOR, UM, FIRE PREVENTION.
WE DON'T WANT THE WEEDS TO INADVERTENTLY CAUSE A FIRE TO SPARK UP AND THEN, YOU KNOW, CAUSE THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, TROUBLE.
SO, SO, UH, I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE REPEAT OFFENDERS.
YOU KNOW, THEY SHOULD RECOGNIZE THAT THAT'S A PROBLEM.
AND, UM, I KNOW THAT I HAVE BROUGHT UP BEFORE, UM, UH, ASSESSING SOME TYPE OF REPEAT OFFENDER FEE.
I MENTIONED IT EARLIER TO OUR CITY MANAGER AS WELL.
AND HE SAID THERE THAT THERE IS A PROCESS THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT, UH, THE CITY IS GOING TO CONSIDER SO THAT THERE IS IN THE FUTURE SOME TYPE OF, UM, REPEAT OFFENDER FEE SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS WEED ABATEMENT PROBLEM.
UM, THAT HOPEFULLY DOES MINIMIZE THE ISSUE HERE.
BUT THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THE WORK.
UM, I HAD ONE OTHER QUESTION, BUT IT SKIPPED OUTTA MY HEAD.
IF IT COMES BACK, I'LL ASK AGAIN.
JUST WANNA ALSO, UH, MENTION THAT IN THE LAST 48 HOURS WE DID HAVE, WE HAVE HAD THREE SIGNIFICANT WILDFIRES IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY.
UM, ACTUALLY ONE TODAY, UH, AT EL TEON PARK ON FOURTH AND U.
SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE AS A CITY AND WE AS CITIZENS KEEP OUR RE ABATEMENT CONTROLLED.
AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THIS, THIS PROGRAM SO THAT IN THE EVENT THERE ARE ANY WILDFIRES
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HERE IN OUR CITY LOCALLY, THAT IT CAN GET CONTAINED REALLY QUICKLY.WHAT'S THE PROCESS FOR COMMUNICATION WITH THE OWNERS? BECAUSE THERE'S, I SEE REPEAT OFFENDERS.
UH, ONE OF THE MEMBERS WHO'S LISTED HERE, UH, MR. MARK SCHMIDT, WHO SOUNDS FAMILIAR, I THINK HE'S BEEN THE DEVELOPER HERE, AND I FEEL LIKE I, UM, COULD GET CONTACT.
SO IS, UH, HOW HAS THE COMMUNICATION BEEN WITH STAFF? AND THEN IF STAFF CAN'T GET HOLD, IS IT ANY OF US THAT ARE ENGAGING? WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? SO OUR ABATEMENT PROCESS, UH, AGAIN, ONCE WE GO OUT TO OUR PROPERTY, IF IT'S EITHER AN FPS, FIRE PREVENTION SERVICE PERSONNEL THAT BRINGS IT TO OUR ATTENTION, WE'LL GO OUT THERE AND ALLOW, UH, FPS TO PROVIDE THAT NOTICE.
THAT'S THE ONE WAY OR TWO, IF, IF WE GET A COMPLAINT, MOST OF THESE ARE COMPLAINT DRIVEN.
SO WE PHYSICALLY GO OUT THERE AND WE DO, UM, PROVIDE NOTICES AND CERTIFIED MAIL TO THE REGISTERED PROPERTY OWNER.
AND AT THAT POINT, UH, THEY RECEIVED THE NOTICES, AND THIS IS WHY THEY'RE IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY.
'CAUSE THEY'RE, SOME OF THESE REPEAT OFFENDERS, AS YOU'RE MENTIONING, JUST DON'T, UM, ABATE THEIR PROPERTIES.
AND MOST OF THEM ARE ALL VACANT PROPERTIES.
UH, WE DO, YOU'LL, YOU, YOU WILL SEE TWO COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, UH, TODAY, UH, ONE, YOU'LL SEE TWO OF 'EM.
AND WHAT WE DO, UH, AS DUE DILIGENCE IS IF IT'S A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OR AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, UH, WE'LL MAKE AN ATTEMPT TO GO IN THERE AND SPEAK TO A MANAGER.
FOR EXAMPLE, ONE IS AN AUTO ZONE.
I MADE AN A A ATTEMPT TO GO IN THERE.
I TALKED TO THE MANAGER AND SAID, LISTEN, WE HAVE A WEED ABATEMENT COMPLAINT, PLEASE FIX IT.
UM, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
AND IF IT'S AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, WE REACH OUT TO THE PROPERTY OWNER AND MOST OF THEM COMPLY THAT WAY.
UM, BUT FOR THOSE WHO DON'T, WHICH MOSTLY ARE THE REPEAT OFFENDERS, WE JUST NOTICE SOME, WE GIVE 'EM THE CERTIFIED MAIL.
WE, AND THEN AT THAT POINT, THEY'RE HERE AT THE WEED ABATEMENT HEARING.
SO I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION OR YES, EXCEPT FOR THE PART ABOUT IF THERE'S A NEED TO GET CITY COUNCIL INVOLVED FOR THOSE THAT, UM, WHETHER IT'S IN OUR DISTRICTS OR THAT WE HAVE RELATIONSHIPS WITH PEOPLE, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE OPEN TO ENTERTAIN SOME IDEAS.
IF WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT CITY COUNCIL WILL LIKE SOME COMMUNICATION THAT GOES OUT TO THESE REPEAT OFFENDERS.
SO WE'RE OPEN TO SEEING HOW THAT WOULD PLAY OUT.
SO, UM, WHEN AVAILABLE, YOU CAN COME DOWN TO OUR OFFICE AND SPEAK AND SEE HOW THAT CAN WORK OUT.
YEAH, IT'S JUST AN OFFER BECAUSE I SEE, UH, SOME OF THESE FOLKS THAT, THAT WE MAY KNOW.
SO IF KEY'S STAFF ISN'T ABLE TO REACH OUT, THEN MAYBE WE CAN HELP.
THANK YOU, MS. MAYOR, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR STAFF FOR DOING THE WORK AND DUE DILIGENCE AND FOLLOW UP FOR THIS.
UM, I AGREE WITH MY, WITH MY COLLEAGUES THAT IT IS IMPORTANT TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE CONSTITUENTS.
AND WE MIGHT KNOW SOME OF THESE FOLKS ON THE LIST, BUT IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT 14 OUT OF THE 24, UM, SITES, UH, ARE LLCS, UH, CORPORATIONS, UH, COMPANIES.
SO THEY ARE INVESTMENT PROPERTIES BY INDIVIDUALS.
AND I DO BELIEVE THAT OUR COMMUNITY NEEDS TO BE RESPECTED.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, UM, AND SOME INVESTMENT IS, PROPERTY IS DIFFICULT AT TIMES, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE ARE, UH, THINKING OF FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.
BUT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE TAKE CARE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND COMMUNITY.
AND SO I LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING A CONSTRUCTIVE CONVERSATION WITH A LOT OF THE FOLKS THAT ARE IN DISTRICT TWO IN PARTICULAR.
AND HOPEFULLY THEY'RE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR PROPERTIES.
AND ESPECIALLY WITH THE SUMMER BEING HERE, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, LAWNS ARE, ARE TAKEN CARE OF BECAUSE NOW THEY'RE JUST COMBUSTIBLE, UH, A POTENTIAL COMBUSTIBLE RIGHT TO, TO BECOME A FIRE.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, UM, ALL THE WORK AND HELP.
I UNDERSTAND THIS IS JUST WEED ABATEMENT, BUT THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THERE ARE PROPERTIES IN, IN OUR CITY THAT THERE YARD ARE FULL OF HAZARDOUS MATERIALS OR JUNK OR TRASH THAT IS ALSO HAZARDOUS.
SO I KNOW I REPORT THOSE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, BUT DO YOU WORK WITH CODE? UM, BY, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE ABATEMENT MOST SPECIALTIES IS JUST FOR GRASS, BUT YOU KNOW, I MEAN, REALLY IT STARTS FROM A LOT OF JUNK IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS, RIGHT? AND THOSE ARE THE THINGS ALSO THAT MAYBE WE CAN, WE CAN, UM, WE CAN ABATE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, FOR THESE REPEAT OFFENDERS AND THEY ARE, UM, ABSENTEE LANDLORDS, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, UH, I DON'T KNOW, UM, HOW WE CAN FIND THEM MORE RIGHT? IN ORDER FOR THEM TO RESPECT OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, AND FOR THOSE, UM, PROPERTY OWNERS WHO ARE NOT TAKING CARE OF THEIR, OF THEIR PROPERTIES, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THEIR YARDS, WE HAVE, UM, FREE CLEANUP DAY THAT, UM, THAT WE ARE DOING.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I THINK THAT WOULD ALSO PREVENT FROM THIS MOST, ESPECIALLY THIS SUMMERTIME.
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UM, IT'S VERY, VERY CRUCIAL THAT WE ALSO ADDRESS THEM.AND MAYBE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, OUR SERVICE HERE, I DON'T WANT THEM JUST TO GO AFTER THOSE REPEAT OFFENDERS.
I WANT THEM TO INCLUDE ALL THE NATIONAL CITY SEVEN POINT OR 9.2 MILE JURISDICTION THAT WE HAVE.
THEY CANNOT JUST GO TO SAY, OH, THAT'S A, THAT'S A, UH, REPEAT OFFENDER.
AND THEN WE PUT THEM BACK IN THE LIST.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I, I, I, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IF THEY ARE REPEAT OFFENDERS, I GO WITH COUNCIL MEMBER MOLINA.
LET'S MAKE SURE THAT THE FINE IS MORE, MORE STRICT, MORE, ESPECIALLY IF THEY ARE ABSENTEE LANDLORDS.
WHAT I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS, UH, IF A PROPERTY DOES HAVE, UH, HAZARDS AND MATERIALS OR TRASH, UM, WE DO WORK WITH OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT DEPARTMENT.
UH, THIS IS SPECIFICALLY A, WE ABATEMENT, UM, PROGRAM.
UH, FPS DOES NOT ONLY DO WE ABATEMENT, BUT THEY CAN ALSO, UM, HAUL AWAY TRASH AS WELL.
UM, BUT WHEN THERE ARE ITEMS THAT, UH, FPS IN THEIR CONTRACT, THEY, THEY DO NOT, UM, HAUL AWAY OR, OR, OR TAKE AWAY, UH, WE DO, UH, WORK WITH OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT TO GET THAT TAKEN CARE OF AS WELL.
HERE'S MY, IS SOMEONE OVER THERE TURNING MY MIC OFF BEFORE? YEAH.
UM, QUESTION IS WHAT TIME PERIOD ARE WE LOOKING AT, UH, THESE ONES THAT ARE BEFORE US TONIGHT? SO THIS IS THE CALENDAR YEAR OF 2024.
SO FROM JANUARY 1ST TO DECEMBER 31ST.
SO WE, EVERY MONTH, UH, FIRE PREVENTION SERVICES PROVIDES US A LIST OF HOW MANY, UH, COURTESY NOTICE THAT THEY, THEY HAVE SENT, HOW MANY INSPECTIONS THEY PERFORMED, HOW MANY NOTICES THEY SENT, HOW MANY OWNER ABATED LOCATIONS, UH, OWNERS ABATED, AND HOW MANY AGENCY LOCATIONS, UH, THAT FPS ABATED.
THE MONTH OF JUNE, JUNE OF THIS YEAR, WE HAD, UH, 200, UH, INSPECTIONS PERFORMED.
AND THE MONTH OF JULY WE HAD 250 INSPECTIONS PERFORMED.
UM, NOW, BECAUSE WE HAD A HUGE RAIN SEASON LAST LAST YEAR, SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MAY, APRIL, SO IT TAKES TIME TO DRY OUT.
SO THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE A LOT OF THESE LOCATIONS THAT ARE GETTING INSPECTED AND ABATED DURING THE MONTHS OF, OF JUNE, JULY, AUGUST.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT OUR GRAPH IS JUNE, JULY, AUGUST IS USUALLY THE TIMEFRAME THAT YOU'LL HAVE ALL THESE ABATEMENTS.
BUT THE TIMEFRAME IS A CALENDAR YEAR.
SO JANUARY 1ST THROUGH, UH, DECEMBER 31ST.
HOPE THAT, DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? RIGHT? YEAH.
IN, IN OTHER WORDS, THIS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT TALKING ABOUT THIS YEAR, THIS, THIS CALENDAR YEAR.
THESE ARE THE ONES FROM LAST CALENDAR YEAR, CORRECT? YEAH.
SO YOU'RE STILL OUT THERE DOING INSPECTIONS NOW FOR THIS YEAR? WE'RE STILL DOING INSPECTIONS NOW FOR NEXT YEAR.
THOSE WILL COME, THOSE WILL COME BACK TO US, LIKE IN THIS FORM ABOUT THIS SAME TIME NEXT YEAR.
AND JUST ALSO NOTE THAT THERE ARE TWO PARCELS IN THIS PROPERTY, UM, THAT GOT ABATED TWICE IN ONE YEAR.
SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE, THE DOCUMENTATION, UH, NEXT TO THEIR A PN NUMBER WILL BE A A OR A LETTER A AND A LETTER B.
UM, 'CAUSE THEY WERE ABATED TWICE IN ONE CALENDAR YEAR.
AND THAT'S A VACANT PROPERTY AS WELL.
UM, SO WITH THAT WE HAVE, UH, WE JUST HAVE THE ONE SPEAKER.
WE'VE ALREADY CLOSED PUBLIC HEARING.
AND SO WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE? ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR DID I HAVE A MOTION FOR THE CHAIR? YES.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
[10.3 Public Hearing and Adoption of a Resolution Accepting the City of National City Sewer Tax Roll Fiscal Year 2025-2026 Report.]
UH, 10.3 PUBLIC HEARING AND ADOPTION OF A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITIES, UH, SEWER TAX ROLL, FISCAL YEAR 25, 26 REPORT.NO, NO FORMAL, UH, PRESENTATION TONIGHT.
UH, ESSENTIALLY WE'RE HOLDING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR COUNSEL'S APPROVAL TO PLACE THE SEWER SERVICE CHARGES FOR FY 25 AND 26 ON THE TAX ROLL.
AND, AND MOST OF THIS IS ACTUALLY DETERMINED TO US BY METRO.
AND SO A LOT OF, A LOT OF THIS, A LOT OF THE FUNDS THAT WE PAY TOWARDS SEWER ARE ACTUALLY PASSED THROUGH TO OTHER, TO ANOTHER AGENCY.
SO ANYWAY, UH, ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS LIKE WHEN WE DID THE, UH, UH, WHEN WE JUST DID THE TRASH, UH, UH,
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RATES, WE, WE HAD, UH, A CHART THAT SHOWED HOW WE COMPARED TO THE OTHER CITIES.I THINK WHEN SOMETHING LIKE THIS COME UP, IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE COULD ALSO HAVE, HAVE THAT, UH, AS FAR AS SEWER RATES, WE, WE CAN ADD IT BACK IN.
YOU KNOW, WE, WE, UH, WE WERE BEFORE YOU VERY RECENTLY MM-HMM
UM, WITH THAT FORMAL PRESENTATION AND, AND THOSE CHARTS.
FOR THIS ITEM, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND ADD THAT BACK INTO THE, IN TODAY'S REPORT, IT'S GOOD, GOOD FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE IT WHEN WE'RE ACTUALLY ENACTING IT.
IF WE HAVE, WE HAVE THAT IN THERE SO YOU CAN SEE, UH, HOW WE COMPARE TO OTHER CITIES.
AND I SAY WE VERY, VERY FAVORABLE AS FAR AS LOW RATES.
WE'RE, WE'RE DEFINITELY IN THE, UH, LOWER TIER AS FAR AS OUR, OUR CHARGES.
UH, WITH THAT, UH, WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE DO NOT HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM.
MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AS SOON AS THAT SECOND GOES THROUGH AGAIN.
YOU WANNA GET THAT AGAIN THERE? UH, THERE YOU GO.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, NEXT, UH, WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE? I MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
SEEING NO DISCUSSION, PLEASE VOTE.
[10.4 HUD 2025-2029 Five Year Consolidation Plan, 2025-2026 Annual Action Plan, and Fourth Amendment to Citizen and Community Participation Plan]
NEXT WE HAVE ON TEN FOUR.THIS IS THE HUD 25 THROUGH 29 5 YEAR CONSOLIDATION PLAN, AND ALSO THE 25 26 ANNUAL ACTION PLAN.
AND FOURTH AMENDMENT TO THE CITIZEN AND COMMUNITY PARTICIPATION PLAN.
CARLOS AGUIRE, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
UH, WE DO NOT HAVE A FORMAL PRESENTATION TONIGHT FOR YOU, BUT WE ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
I, UH, I'VE RECEIVED A LOT OF QUESTIONS WITH REGARDS TO THE ONGOING, UH, UH, FEDERAL APPROPRIATIONS FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
THEY WILL NOT IMPACT THIS APPROPRIATION, HOWEVER, UM, HUD UH, IN LINE WITH THE PRESIDENT'S, UH, FISCAL YEAR 26 BUDGET PROPOSAL IS, UM, PROPOSING A 44% CUT TO HUD PROGRAMS, UH, INCLUDING THE ELIMINATION OF CDBG AND HOME, UH, THE CONVERSION OF, OR ELIMINATION OF THE SECTION AN A PROGRAM AND CREATION OF A STATE RENTAL ASSISTANCE BLOCK PROGRAM IN ITS PLACE.
AS WELL AS, UH, THIS DISINTERMEDIATION OF FUNDING FOR THE CONTINUUM OF CARE TOWARDS, UH, ESG, UH, TO THE TUNE OF $3 BILLION.
SO THE FUNDING WOULD GO FROM THE CONTINUUM OF, UH, OF CARE PROGRAM TO NONPROFITS AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS THAT APPLY FOR THAT.
I CAN TAKE ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY.
UM, THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR THAT WE DON'T, WE'RE NOT PAYING BACK ON SECTION 1 0 8, ISN'T IT? THAT'S CORRECT.
SO WE'VE BEEN PAYING FOR THE FIRE STATION FOR A LOT OF YEARS AND THAT'S FINE.
UM, THE ONLY OTHER THING I WOULD JUST ASK FOR CLARIFICATION, UH, NORMALLY THERE WAS, UH, THE 15 OF THE UP, WELL, IT WAS UP TO 15%.
UH, WE NORMALLY HAVE THE SET ASIDE GOING FOR COMMUNITY PROJECTS, WHATEVER.
HOW IS THAT FIGURED IN ON THE CDBG ON THIS? UH, WE CAN, UH, MAKE THE ALLOCATION UP TO 15%.
SO IF OUR RECOMMENDATION IS NOT TO DO THAT, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT.
I JUST WANNA HEAR IT BECAUSE I THINK IT'S THE FIRST YEAR THAT WE'RE NOT DOING SOMETHING INTO THAT.
'CAUSE THE NUMBERS NUMBERS ARE GETTING SMALLER.
JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT ONE.
UM, UH, CLARIFICATION QUESTIONS.
UM, THANK YOU CARLOS, UH, FOR THE GREAT WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE FOR 15 YEARS WITHIN OUR 17 YEARS.
ALMOST 17 YEARS IN THIS DEPARTMENT FEELS LIKE 30 AND
WELL, I'M SURE YOU WOULDN'T SAY THAT, RIGHT?
UM, CAN YOU BACK UP AND EXPLAIN, UM, THE PROPOSAL RIGHT NOW AND WHAT IT WOULD CURRENTLY DO TO OUR HUD UH, FUNDING WITHIN OUR JURISDICTION? SO AS, AS IS CURRENTLY PROPOSED, UM, BY THE, UH, SECRETARY OF HUD, SCOTT TURNER, UH, FOR INSTANCE ON A SECTION EIGHT PROGRAM, UH, WE HAVE, UH, 11, 1163 HOUSEHOLDS THAT ARE ON SECTION EIGHT.
THAT PROGRAM WOULD TRANSITION, UM, TO THE STATE, UH, AS A STATE BLOCK GRANT.
AND, UH, THAT IS YET TO BE DETERMINED AS TO HOW THAT PROGRAM
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WOULD FUNCTION.IT WOULD GIVE DISCRETION FOR THE STATE, BUT IT WOULD PROBABLY BE A REDUCED LOT OF FUNDING.
UM, THE ONE THING THAT IS NOTED IN THE PRESIDENT'S BUDGET IS THAT IF, UH, A PERSON IS ABLE BODIED ON THE PROGRAM, THERE IS A 24 MONTH CAP OR, OR LIMIT TO THE USE OF SECTION EIGHT, WHERE, UH, CURRENTLY IF THE PERSON IS STILL LOW INCOME AND QUALIFIES, THEY COULD BE PERPETUALLY ON THE PROGRAM.
UH, THIS IS NOT FOR THOSE THAT ARE ELDERLY AND DISABLED.
UM, CDBG AND HOME WOULD GO AWAY.
SO ALL OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE DO WITH OUR CDBG FUNDING WOULD HAVE TO BE, WE WOULD HAVE TO CONSIDER WHETHER OTHER FUNDS, UH, AS PROPOSED.
AND, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S AS MUCH AS WE KNOW.
THE, THE PROCESS IS, THE FEDERAL PROCESS BUDGET PROCESS IS QUITE COMPLICATED.
THERE'S, UH, 12 BILLS, SO 11 TRAILER BILLS.
THE HUD PROGRAMS ARE UNDER THE THUD OR T HUD, UH, APPROPRIATION, UH, THAT IS COMING BACK AS A WRITTEN, UH, BUDGET PROPOSAL, UH, IN EARLY JULY.
AND THEN WOULD HAVE TO BE ADOPTED BY OCTOBER 1ST.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO NECESSARILY ADOPT BY OCTOBER 1ST.
IF, UH, THERE'S CONTINUED DELIBERATIONS ABOUT THE BUDGET, UM, THAT CAN GO ON AND CONTINUING RESOLUTION, BUT WOULD TYPICALLY IT'S APPROVED OCTOBER 1ST.
SO TO RECAP THIS, THIS IS A FIVE YEAR OVERVIEW, BUT, UM, THE FEDERAL, UH, UH, THE WHITE HOUSE AND, AND THE FEDERAL PROPOSAL FOR FUNDING WOULD BE APPLICABLE FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR FOR THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY? THAT'S CORRECT.
SO IF THE PRESIDENT'S BUDGET WAS ADOPTED, UH, STAFF WOULD NOT BE HERE NEXT YEAR PROPOSING USES OF CDBG OR HOME.
AND HOW MANY STAFF DO WE HAVE IN THE HOUSING AUTHORITY? UH, WORKING ON THE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT SIDE AND ALL, UH, ALL THEIR PROGRAMS. UH, THERE'S 13 FTE ON SECTION EIGHT AND ABOUT THREE FTE, UH, FOUR FTE, INCLUDING MYSELF OR FULL-TIME EQUIVALENTS ON THE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT AND PROGRAM SIDE.
AND UNDER THE CURRENT PROPOSAL, IT WOULD NO LONGER EXIST.
RIGHT? WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT, UM, THE STATE'S PROGRAM AND, AND SEE HOW WE WOULD APPLY FOR THAT.
IF THAT, IF THAT CAME DOWN TO THE CITY IS, IF THAT WAS A, A, A POSSIBILITY.
WE DON'T KNOW YET HOW THOSE STATE BLOCK GRANT MONIES WOULD BE, UH, DISTRIBUTED.
I'M MAKING, UH, AN OPTIMISTIC ASSUMPTION THAT THEY WOULD USE THIS, THE CURRENT HOUSING AUTHORITY PLATFORM TO, TO DELIVER THE PROGRAM, BUT WE HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE.
AND OUT OF THE 1100 RECIPIENTS, 1100 PLUS RECIPIENTS OF SECTION EIGHT HOUSING IN NATIONAL CITY, HOW MANY OF THOSE ARE SENIORS? IT'S, UH, APPROXIMATELY 60%.
UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THAT INFORMATION.
I KNOW THAT CAUSES A GREAT DEAL OF UNCERTAINTY FOR OUR STAFF AND OUR COMMUNITY.
UM, I WOULD URGE US TO HAVE SOME KIND OF INITIAL CONVERSATIONS ON WHAT WE WOULD DO ON A LOCAL LEVEL.
UM, NOT JUST IN SUPPORTING OUR COMMUNITY IN NEED AND IN NEED OF RENTAL ASSISTANCE, BUT, UH, OUR STAFF THAT HAVE BEEN WITH US FOR MANY YEARS, UM, IN THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT, ASSISTING INDIVIDUALS TO HAVE HOUSING AND, UH, MOSTLY SENIORS.
SO ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES.
AND WHAT THIS WHITE HOUSE IS DOING AT THE MOMENT IS ABSOLUTELY TERRIFYING IN MANY DIFFERENT LEVELS, BUT ONE OF WHICH IS DEFUNDING HOUSING FOR LOW INCOME INDIVIDUALS AND, UH, SENIORS ON FIXED INCOME, WHICH IS ABSOLUTELY INCONCEIVABLE.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, UH, YOUR WORK, CARLOS AND THAT OF YOUR DEPARTMENT.
IT YOU PROVIDE A GREAT SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY.
HOW, UM, WHAT IS THE TOTAL FUNDING FOR THIS PARTICULAR DEPARTMENT IN OUR CITY ALONE? THE SECTION EIGHT, UH, PROGRAM IS ABOUT $18 MILLION WITH OPERATIONS.
AND, UH, ON OUR SIDE OF THE SHOP, IT'S A LITTLE BIT UNDER, UH, OR THE DEVELOPMENT SIDE, I WOULD SAY IS A LITTLE BIT UNDER 500,000 FOR THE THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER CLARIFICATION QUESTIONS? IF NOT, I'M GONNA OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE DO NOT HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM.
UM, FOR, WE HAVE YOU FOR TEN FIVE.
WELL, I SAY THAT BECAUSE YOU PUT IN TWO SLIPS FOR 11 THREE, SO I WAS KIND OF WONDERING ABOUT THIS.
YOUR, YOUR SLIPS ARE SHOWING
UM, BUT IT IS, IT'S, UM, I THINK THIS
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IS A REAL BIG ISSUE.IT'S, UH, ONE THAT, UM, HITS HOME BECAUSE IT DOES, AS YOU SAID, CONCERN CITIZENS AND THE CITY, AND IT HAS A FUTURE BUDGET PROJECTION.
AND IT'S ONE THAT, UM, THAT, UH, THERE'S A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY AND IT'S ONE WHERE, UM, WE'VE BEEN DOING THE SAME THING FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
AND NOW THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE FUNDING FROM THE STATE, UM, OR POSSIBLY FUNDING FROM THE STATE, THERE'S A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY HOW THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S GONNA GET FUNDED OR NOT.
BUT MY CONCERN BEFORE ALL THIS DISCUSSION WAS, EVEN IF IT HAD BEEN FUNDED, ARE WE GETTING ALL THE MONEY THAT WE SHOULD GET? YOU KNOW, ARE WE CHARGING, I KEEP ASKING ABOUT THIS COST ALLOCATION PLAN.
ARE WE CHARGING THE FEDS FOR EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN RECOUP? AND NOW WE COULD POSSIBLY CA ASK IF THIS PROGRAM SHOULD COME? ARE WE CHARGING THIS? CAN WE CHARGE THE STATE FOR EVERYTHING THAT WE RECOUP? UM, THERE WAS A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE COST ALLOCATION PLAN, WHETHER THIS COST GOT SPREAD OUT.
SO IN PREPARATION FOR A POSSIBLE CHANGE AND NOT TO GET OURSELF IN THE DEFICIT, LOOK AT THAT COST ALLOCATION PLAN AND LOOK AT IT, HOW IT AFFECTS OUR FED'S CLAIMING, AND NOW HOW IT COULD PO POSSIBLY COULD AFFECT OUR STATE FUNDING IF IT SHOULD HAPPEN.
I WISH YOU GUYS THE BEST OF LUCK WITH THIS, BUT IT CONCERNS AND I THINK YOU GUYS CAN PREPARE AND PLAN FOR ALL THIS, I HOPE AND NOT, YOU KNOW, GIVE UP ON THIS.
UH, THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY.
UH, MR. REICH, ARE YOU TURNING THE ONE IN ON THIS ONE? OKAY.
ARE YOU, ARE YOU TURNING? YES.
I WOULDN'T SAY THIS ONE, BUT YOU DON'T REALIZE WHAT THEY'RE INCLUDING IN THIS.
THEY'RE INCLUDING SOMETHING LIKE $400,000 FOR RESTROOMS WORTH A LOT OF MONEY.
$50,000 FOR DRYING FIRE DEPARTMENT HOSE AND SOMETHING FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
NOW, IS THIS THE RIGHT ONE OR IS THIS THE OTHER? IS THIS FOUR OR FIVE? THAT'S THIS ONE.
THIS IS THE ONE YOU'RE ADDRESSING NOW? YES.
AND THE, THE, UH, THIS, I CAN'T, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT THE FIGURES, I CAN'T FIGURE OUT WHICH IS FOR, UH, WHICH IS, WHICH IS FOR GIVING THE PEOPLE, SUBSIDIZING THE PEOPLE OR FOR BUILDING IMPROVEMENTS.
YOU'RE TRYING TO TAKE AWAY THAT FOR THE BUILDING IMPROVEMENTS.
IS THAT SOMETHING DIFFERENT? UH, NO, NOT AT ALL.
THE, THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT CAN BE USED FOR, UH, IMPROVEMENTS.
IT COULD BE USED FOR OTHER PROGRAMS, BUT, UM, IT DOESN'T COMPETE WITH THE SECTION EIGHT PROGRAM, WHICH IS THE PROGRAM SUBSIDY THAT THE CITY RUNS.
WELL, THERE'S A LOT, THERE'S THESE, UH, FOUR, I CAN'T GET THERE.
400,000, BUT THERE'S THREE BIG CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.
THE, FOR THE RESTROOMS MM-HMM
AND THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE I CAN'T REMEMBER.
THAT, THAT WAS THE, UH, THE DRYERS AND STUFF.
SO NOW AT THIS POINT WE NEED A MOTION FOR CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
[10.5 Second Substantial Amendment to the FY24-25 HUD Annual Action Plan to Reallocate HOME Funds to Community Housing Development Organization Set-Aside.]
OKAY, WE GO TO TEN FIVE.THIS IS THE SECOND SUBSTANTIAL AMENDMENT TO, WE NEED TO COMPARE THAT.
YOU JUST DON'T NEED TO, WE DIDN'T DO THE ACTUAL VOTE ON THE RESOLUTION.
WE'RE DOING TOO MANY OF THESE THINGS.
UH, WHAT IS, UH, WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE? IF YOU'VE GOT ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING ELSE, OR IF NOT A MOTION, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
SEE NO MORE DISCUSSION, PLEASE VOTE.
THIS IS THE SECOND SUBSTANTIAL AMENDMENT TO FISCAL YEAR 24, 25 HUD ANNUAL ACTION PLAN TO REALLOCATE HOME FUNDS TO COMMUNITY HOUSING DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATION SET ASIDE.
MR. GARY, UH, AGAIN, THANK YOU MAYOR CITY COUNCIL, WE DON'T HAVE A FORMAL PRESENTATION, BUT WE COULD PROVIDE ANY, UH, OR ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ON THE ITEM.
WITH THAT, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER, MR. EDWARD
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NETTO.ACTUALLY, TO ME, THIS SORT OF BLENDS IN TO THE PREVIOUS ONE.
AND MY INITIAL QUESTION IS, UM, YOU MENTIONED $500,000 AND I QUITE COULDN'T UNDERSTAND, WELL, MAYBE I'M OFF TRACK HERE, BUT THE PREVIOUS, THE $500,000 IN THE PREVIOUS ELECTION, WHAT WAS THE GENERAL FUND EFFECT TO THIS, TO THE PREVIOUS ITEM? I, I DIDN'T QUITE UNDERSTAND THAT.
WHAT WAS IT? YOU MENTIONED EIGHT, I THOUGHT YOU MENTIONED, UM, WHAT WAS IT? UH, $18 MILLION, BUT IN THE $500,000 EFFECT, I, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT PREVIOUS.
THE, THIS ITEM, THE ANNUAL ACTION PLAN DOES NOT INCLUDE THE SECTION EIGHT PROGRAM.
THERE WAS A FOLLOW UP QUESTION WITH REGARDS TO THE SECTION EIGHT BUDGET, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY $18 MILLION, INCLUDING OPERATIONS THAT'S EXCLUDED FROM, UH, THE ANNUAL ACTION PLAN, WHICH ONLY ENCOMPASSES THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT AND THE HOME INVESTMENT PARTNERSHIPS PROGRAM.
IT DOES NOT INCLUDE SECTION EIGHT.
WITH THAT, THIS ONLY SPEAKER WE HAVE ON THAT, I WOULD HAVE ASKED FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING.
WHAT, UH, WHAT IS YOUR, WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE ON THIS ITEM? 10.5.
SEEING NO DISCUSSION, PLEASE VOTE.
[11.1 Staff Report to Consider Potential Municipal Code Language Related to Short-Term Rentals. ]
NEXT WE GO ON TO STAFF REPORTS.FIRST IS A STAFF REPORT TO CONSIDER POTENTIAL MUNICIPAL CODE LANGUAGE RELATED TO SHORT TERM RENTALS.
AND, UH, GOOD EVENING MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL STAFF, AND THE PUBLIC MARTIN REEDER, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
JUST HERE TO FOLLOW UP FROM THE LAST MEETING WHERE WE HAD A, UH, PUBLIC HEARING AND, UH, FOR POTENTIAL INTRODUCTION OF THIS ORDINANCE, UH, WE WERE ASKED TO COME BACK WITH A DRAFT ORDINANCE WITH THE CHANGES THAT WAS SUGGESTED AT THE LAST MEETING.
THE STRIKE THROUGH UNDERLINED VERSION THAT IS, IS ATTACHED TO YOUR STAFF REPORT, HAS THOSE CHANGES.
UH, IF THEY'RE NOT IMMEDIATELY EVIDENT, THEY ARE, UH, THEY WERE ALREADY IN THERE BEFORE, SO I'D BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS ANY OF THOSE QUESTIONS.
UH, I WILL SAY THAT IN THE STAFF REPORT IT TALKS ABOUT A, A MAXIMUM OF 125.
THE MAXIMUM'S ACTUALLY NOT IN THAT, UH, ORDINANCE YET, BUT THAT IS LIKELY TO INCREASE ANYWAY DEPENDING ON DISCUSSION.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE WERE LOOKING FOR FEEDBACK FROM.
AT THE, UH, LAST MEETING, I BELIEVE WE DISCUSSED A CAP AND WE WERE THINKING ANYWHERE FROM 40 TO 50 PER DISTRICT.
SO, YOU KNOW, 180 OR TO 200 PER, UH, FOR THE WHOLE CITY IS KIND OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
OF COURSE, THAT'S A, THAT'S A FAIRLY MINOR POINT.
UM, I DID DISCUSS IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT OF ALL THE OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE SUCH AN ORDINANCE, ONLY THE CITY OF DELMAR HAS A CAP.
IT'S 128 OR 129 UNITS, WHICH IS A PRETTY, UH, LAR IT'S A LARGER PERCENTAGE OF THEIR SMALLER POPULATION THAN WE WOULD HAVE HERE.
SO, UH, THAT REALLY DOES CONCLUDE STAFF'S REPORT.
WE WERE JUST LOOKING FOR IN, UH, INPUT ON IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER CHANGES OR IF THIS, THE CHANGES THAT WE'VE ATTACHED TODAY, UH, ENCOMPASS THE COMMENTS THAT WE RECEIVED PREVIOUSLY SO THAT WE CAN MOVE ON TO, TO THE NEXT STEP.
UH, STAFF IS ASKING FOR A, A, A DATE FOR THE, UH, INTRODUCTION OF THE ORDINANCE.
THERE WAS TALK OF A PUBLIC FORUM TO TALK ABOUT THE ORDINANCE.
WE CAN DO THAT AS WELL IF THE COUNCIL WISHES.
BUT, UH, WE'RE LOOKING FOR NEXT STEPS, PLEASE.
SO THEY'RE LOOKING FOR ANY INPUT THAT WE HAVE ON THIS.
AND MEMBER MOLINA, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. READER.
I REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK ON THE DRAFT THAT IS PRESENTED.
I ALSO REALLY APPRECIATE THAT IT'S COMING TO US AS A DRAFT, NOT AS A INTRODUCTION, AS A FIRST READING.
UM, I REALLY FEEL HEARD
UM, THIS IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING A LOT MORE IN TUNE TO, UM, TO WHAT I FEEL, YOU KNOW, OUR CITY DESERVES AS FAR AS CONSIDERING THIS BRAND NEW PROGRAM FOR, FOR OUR CITY.
AND, UM, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THE INFORMATION THAT I HAVE RECEIVED FROM, UH, CONSTITUENTS, NOT JUST IN MY DISTRICT AND DISTRICT ONE, UM, OTHER FOLKS WITHIN NATIONAL CITY HAVE
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APPROACHED ME ABOUT THEIR CONCERNS.UM, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WORKING ON THIS AND FOR, UH, TAKING THE INPUT.
UM, THE DRAFT IS, UH, CERTAINLY DOES COVER NOW, UH, DOES, UH, ADDRESS A LOT OF THE CONCERNS THAT I WAS, UM, YOU KNOW, INTERESTED IN SEEING ADDRESSED.
I'M GLAD THAT YOU MENTIONED THE TOPIC ABOUT, UM, HOW MANY LICENSES POTENTIALLY PER DISTRICT.
UM, I KNOW THAT I, ONE OF THE REQUESTS THAT I DIDN'T SEE, UH, YET ON THE DRAFT IS HOW MANY, UM, UM, RENTALS, SHORT TERM VACATION RENTALS WOULD BE ALLOWED PER DISTRICT.
AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I'M INTERESTED IN, UM, CHANGING OR ADDING, ADDING INTO THE ORDINANCE.
THE NUMBER I KNOW THAT YOU ARE SUGGESTING ON HERE IS 1 25.
UM, I THINK THAT NUMBER WOULD NEED TO BE SOMETHING MORE EVENLY SPLIT, YOU KNOW, A NUMBER THAT COULD BE EVENLY SPLIT BETWEEN FOUR DISTRICTS.
UM, HOW DID YOU ARRIVE AT THAT NUMBER 1 25? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
UH, OBVIOUSLY THIS MOVED IN QUITE A HURRY AND I BELIEVE I, IT WAS THE WEEKEND WHEN I WAS DOING THIS
AND IN MY NOTES FROM THE LAST MEETING WE WERE LOOKING AT 180, SO YEAH, 45 PER DISTRICT.
I'M NOT SURE WHERE THAT 1 25 CAME FROM.
BUT YEAH, THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE EVEN NUMBER, BUT THAT WOULD BE FINE.
AND EARLIER DURING MY BRIEFING TOO, UH, WE WERE DISCUSSING, UM, YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW ARE WE GOING TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE ARRIVE AT THAT NUMBER, YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW WILL WE DETERMINE IF, LET'S SAY IT IS 40 OR 50 PER DISTRICT, HOW DO WE DETERMINE HOW WE ARRIVE AT THAT NUMBER PER DISTRICT? SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MECHANISM WILL BE.
UM, I'M SURE THE VENDOR THAT WE, UM, CONTRACT WITH TO HELP US DETERMINE, YOU KNOW, HOW TO RUN THIS PROGRAM WILL HELP US IN THAT REGARD.
BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT I'M INTERESTED IN PURSUING SO THAT WE DO EVEN OUT THE IMPACT THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
UM, ANOTHER QUESTION THAT I HAD HAD TO DO WITH THE RECENT, UH, UM, ACTIVITY THAT HAPPENED HERE, UH, RECENTLY, THERE WAS, UM, IN THE NEWS, UM, REALLY, UM, BAD ACTIVITY THAT HAPPENED BECAUSE THERE WAS A SHORT-TERM RENTAL THAT WAS BEING USED, UM, UH, AS A BROTHEL.
UM, I'M CURIOUS WHETHER THERE IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE ADDED TO THIS ORDINANCE THAT DOES ADDRESS IF THERE IS CRIMINAL ACTIVITY THAT DOES ADDRESS THOSE, UM, UM, LANDLORDS OR THOSE, UH, USERS, YOU KNOW, FROM THE ABILITY TO, TO HAVE A LICENSE IN THE PAST AND, YOU KNOW, SOME TYPE OF PUNITIVE MEASURE TO MITIGATE THAT TYPE OF ACTIVITY.
WE COULD CERTAINLY LOOK AT ADDING THAT LANGUAGE.
THERE IS GENERAL LANGUAGE, UH, MAKING SURE THAT ANY, ANY OPERATOR OP, UH, OPERATES WITHIN THE LAW.
UH, YOU KNOW, THE LAW OF THE CITY, THE LAW OF THE COUNTRY, ET CETERA.
SO IF THEY ARE BREAKING THE LAW, THEY WILL BE PROSECUTED ACCORDINGLY.
UM, BUT YEAH, WE CURRENTLY, WE, WE ADDED LANGUAGE REFERRING TO THE, UH, THE NO FAULT EVICTIONS.
WE CAN CERTAINLY ADD, YOU KNOW, AND WE ALSO HAVE ONES, UH, RELATED TO VIOLATORS IN GENERAL.
ARE, ARE NOT ABLE TO, TO REAPPLY.
SO WE CAN ADD TO THAT SECTION.
JUST A BRIEF COMMENT ON THERE ABOUT YEAH.
YOU KNOW, IF AN OPERATOR HAS A CRIMINAL RECORD OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, RELATED TO BROTHELS OR WHATEVER, SOMETHING THAT COVERS THE RECENT ACTIVITY.
'CAUSE I KNOW IT, IT WAS IN THE NEWS AND A LOT OF PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY CERTAINLY HAD AN OPINION ABOUT THAT.
UM, I THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO ADDRESS THAT, UH, AS WELL.
AND THE LAST COMMENT I WANNA MAKE FOR THE TIME BEING, I MIGHT HAVE MORE DEPENDING ON THE DISCUSSION.
UM, THERE'S A SUGGESTION ON HERE, THE, I THINK IT'S THE THIRD PARAGRAPH ON THE STAFF REPORT.
UM, ACTUALLY IT'S THE VERY FIRST PARAGRAPH UNDER EXPLANATION.
UM, UH, WHERE IS THE SENTENCE AVAILABLE? YOU KNOW, WE STAFF IS AVAILABLE TO HOLD A FORM.
HOWEVER, UM, YOU KNOW, OH, I JUST MISSED IT.
SOMETHING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IF, IF IT'S NOT NECESSARY TO HOLD A PUBLIC FORUM IN JULY, YOU KNOW, WE CAN JUST, NEXT STEP COULD BE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A PUBLIC HEARING AT A REGULARLY, UH, SCHEDULED COUNCIL, CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
UM, I RECOGNIZE I WAS VERY GUNG-HO, UH, ABOUT HAVING A PUBLIC FORUM IN JULY, AND THEN I STOPPED AND REALIZED IF PUBLIC PARTICIPATION IS A LITTLE BIT SCANNED, UM, THUS FAR, FORCING A PUBLIC FORUM MIGHT BE, UM, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SUMMER, UH, PERHAPS MIGHT NOT BE NECESSARY.
SO DEPENDING ON PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ALREADY.
YOU KNOW, UM, WE HAD ONE PUBLIC
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MEETING ALREADY, WE'RE HAVING ONE TONIGHT.I'M OPEN IF, IF COUNCIL IS INTERESTED IN JUST PROCEEDING TO THE PUBLIC, UH, HEARING IN AUGUST, I'M OPEN TO THAT.
I'M NOT GONNA FORCE A PUBLIC, UM, WORKSHOP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SUMMER IN JULY AND THEN HAVE IT BE POORLY ATTENDED.
UM, THANK YOU MR. MAYOR RODRIGUEZ.
UM, AND THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER MOLINA.
I DO ECHO THE SAME SENTIMENTS.
UM, I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE IT.
I DO HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS PARTICULAR, UH, UH, LANGUAGE FOR THE ORDINANCE.
SO, UH, DOES IT CLARIFY ON HOW MUCH THE PERMIT WOULD BE FOR INDIVIDUALS APPLYING FOR A SHORT-TERM RENTAL? NO, THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE THE MECHANICS OF THE PERMIT AND HOW MUCH, AND THE, YOU KNOW, UM, REAPPLICATION OR THE APPLICATION FEE, THE ANNUAL RENEWAL FEE, ET CETERA.
WE HAVEN'T WORKED THAT OUT YET.
THAT WILL BE SOMETHING WE WILL LOOK TO OUR THIRD PARTY VENDORS TO DETERMINE WHAT'S THE APPROPRIATE PRICE, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT IT COVERS THE PROGRAM AS WELL AS HELPS THE CITY WITH OUR GENERAL FUND.
DO WE KNOW HOW MUCH IT COSTS TO ACQUIRE A PERMIT IN, UH, SIMILAR CITIES? I KNOW WE'RE LOOKING AT CHULA VISTA AND VISTA, IT REALLY DOES VARY, UH, THROUGHOUT, BUT IT'S ANYWHERE FROM A COUPLE HUNDRED TO THREE OR $400 IN SOME CASES DEPENDING ON THE CITY.
UH, I WOULD CERTAINLY BE OF THE BELIEF THAT WE WANT INDIVIDUALS TO HAVE A STAKE IN THIS PARTICULAR PERMIT AND IF THEY WISH TO OPERATE, UM, A SHORT-TERM RENTAL IN THE CITY THAT THEY DO SO, AND, UM, TAKE IT SERIOUSLY.
SO I I I WOULD VERY MUCH, UH, AGREE TO THE HIGHER END OF THAT FOR THE PERMIT FEE.
I'M OPEN TO WHAT MY COLLEAGUES MENTIONED AND ALSO WHAT THIS THIRD PARTY VENDOR SAYS, BUT I REALLY DO WANT INDIVIDUALS TO RUN IT AS A GOOD BUSINESS IN IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND, UH, UH, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MONEY, A BIG PART OF THE FACT IS THAT HOTEL ROOMS ARE REQUIRED TO PAY TOT OR TRANSIENT OCCUPANCY TAX.
THESE, UH, EXISTING, UH, UN PERMITTED SHORT-TERM RENTALS DO NOT DO THAT.
SO THIS WOULD ALSO BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CD TO RECOVER THAT TOT TAX.
AND WHO WOULD MANAGE THIS PROGRAM UNDER THIS PROPOSAL? UNDER WHICH DEPARTMENT IN OUR CITY WOULD THIS BE? THE THIRD PARTY VENDOR WOULD BE DOING THE WORK AND PROBABLY REPORTING TO THE, THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
AND THE ADMINISTRATIVE CITATIONS FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE PERMITS AND FOR SOME REASON, UH, GET COMPLAINTS FROM COMMUNITY.
HOW MUCH WOULD THESE CITATIONS BE? I BELIEVE THAT'S DISCUSSED IN THE REPORT, BUT IT'S A, IT'S A SLIDING SCALE DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF VIOLATIONS PER YEAR.
BUT IT'S A, IT'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT.
I BELIEVE IT'S AT LEAST 500 FOR THE FIRST 1,015 HUNDRED I WANNA SAY.
UM, I WOULD BE OPEN TO THE IDEA AS WELL IF WE DO HAVE VERY PROBLEMATIC PROPERTIES TO ACTUALLY EXPAND THAT NUMBER IN THE FUTURE.
UM, IF THEY ARE REPEAT OFFENDERS, WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT THOSE KIND OF BUSINESS OWNERS AND BUSINESSES IN OUR COMMUNITY.
THERE IS ACTUALLY A LIMIT ON THE AMOUNT OF TIMES THEY CAN GET FINED OR, OR CITED BEFORE THEY LOSE THEIR LICENSE AND THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO REAPPLY FOR A YEAR.
AND, AND WHAT HAPPENS IN THE CASE WHERE NEIGHBORS CLAIM THAT THERE'S TRANSIENT INDIVIDUALS MOVING OUTTA THE IN AND OUTTA THE PROPERTY AND IT'S STILL BEING OPERATED AS A SHORT TERM RENTAL, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE AN ACTUAL LICENSE.
UH, THAT WOULD BE GOING THROUGH THE, THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES IN PARTICULAR, AS WITH ALL CODE VIOLATIONS, THEY WOULD BE THE FIRST TO BE CONTACTED AND TO, UH, DO THE RESEARCH IN ORDER TO DETERMINE IF A VIOLATION EXISTS AND TO, UH, ISSUE A NOTICE OF VIOLATION OR A CITATION IS NECESSARY.
AND, AND I DO, UM, UH, THANK MY COLLEAGUES FOR, UM, DOING DUE DILIGENCE AND MOVING THIS, THIS PARTICULAR POLICY FORWARD.
UH, JUST TO SHARE A STORY, UH, JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO, A SINGLE MOM CALLED ME EARLY IN THE MORNING STATING THAT THERE WAS A SHOOTING OUTSIDE OF HER NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND IT TURNS OUT IT WAS A VERY PROBLEMATIC PROPERTY, WHICH, UM, OUR PD AND THE HUMAN TRAFFICKING TASK FORCE, UH, HERE IN SAN DIEGO WAS ABLE TO SHUT DOWN LAST WEEK.
AND, UM, AT THAT SAME PROPERTY, UH, THE SHOOTING OCCURRED EARLY IN THE WEEK.
BY THE WEEKEND THERE WAS A PARTY AT THAT SAME PROPERTY.
AND SO IT'S COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE.
UM, I DID SEE, BECAUSE WE DO FOLLOW THE HOUSING MARKET IN THE CITY, ONE OF THE PROPERTIES, WHICH WAS RATED THIS PAST WEEK BY OUR HUMAN TRAFFICKING TASK FORCE AND NATIONAL CITY PD IS ACTUALLY UP FOR LEASE.
IT'S UP FOR LEASE NOW, UH, FOR LONG TERM.
AND SO I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO PROVIDE EVERY POSSIBLE POLICY, UH, FOR OUR, UH, PD AND CODE ENFORCEMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE SHUT DOWN SOME OF THESE REPEAT OFFENDERS.
ULTIMATELY, WE'RE ASKING PEOPLE THAT IF YOU WANT TO INVEST IN NATIONAL CITY, THERE'S A WAY TO DO IT.
MAKE SURE TO RESPECT OUR COMMUNITY.
AND SO AND SO, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR STAFF FOR DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, UH, COUNCIL AND MAYOR
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FOR PURSUING THIS AND FOR OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AS WELL AS THE PD, WHICH HAS BEEN INSTRUMENTAL THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS NOW FOR WELL OVER A YEAR.JUST WANTED TO, UM, PIGGYBACK ON COUNCIL MEMBER MOLINA'S, UM, COMMENT EARLIER.
HOW WILL YOU FIGURE OUT THE NUMBER OF, UM, SDRS IN EACH DISTRICT? AND, UM, JUST ALSO TO, UH, TO UH, FOLLOW THROUGH WITH, UM, THE REPORT THAT WAS, UM, PRESENTED TO US, UM, SOME TIME AGO THAT THERE ARE 200 SDRS IN OUR CITY.
UM, HAVE WE GIVEN THEM CITATION CITATIONS ALREADY? AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, ARE WE CONTINUING TO POLICE THOSE, UM, THOSE, UM, PROPERTIES THAT ARE NOT COM NOT COMPLIANT WITH OUR LAW? UH, THANK YOU, UH, THROUGH, THROUGH THE CHAIR, UH, MADAM COUNCIL MEMBER.
AS FAR AS THE, THE FIRST QUESTION, I KNOW THAT'S COME UP A COUPLE TIMES NOW, HOW MANY PER DISTRICT? I'LL DO A LITTLE BIT MORE RESEARCH FOR YOU FOR THE NEXT TIME WE, WE TALK ABOUT THIS, BUT WE'LL PROBABLY BASE IT ON THE NUMBER OF HOUSING UNITS IN EACH DISTRICT AND TRY AND COME UP WITH SOMETHING FAIR.
UH, I DON'T SEE THAT BEING AN ISSUE AS FAR AS THE, YOU KNOW, THE NUMBER, IT, IT VARIES FROM DAY TO DAY.
IT'S GOING UP A LITTLE NOW 'CAUSE IT'S SUMMER.
IT DEPENDS ON THE NAVY SCHEDULE AS WELL.
A LOT OF FOLKS ARE COMING IN TO STAY WITH FAMILIES, ET CETERA.
SO IT, IT'S ANYWHERE FROM, YOU KNOW, I'VE SEEN 150 TO JUST OVER 200 IN SOME CASES, UH, VARIES WEEK TO WEEK.
UH, AS FAR AS ARE WE CITING THEM, WE ARE NOT ACTIVELY LOOKING FOR THEM AND SITE CITING THEM AT THE MOMENT.
OBVIOUSLY IF IT'S CLOSE TO 200, THAT'S QUITE A, A WORK PILL.
WE'RE HOPING THAT THIS, UH, THIS EFFORT IS GOING TO LEAD TO MORE EDUCATION FOR THE COMMUNITY AND, AND MORE INFORMATION FOR THEM TO KNOW WHAT THEY CAN AND CANNOT DO.
AND AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA HOPEFULLY HEAR FROM, UH, SOME OF THE GOOD ACTORS.
OBVIOUSLY WE'VE BEEN TALKING A LOT ABOUT THE BAD ACTORS, BUT THERE ARE, WE HAVE ALSO BEEN CONTACTED BY, BY OWNERS THAT ARE GOOD OWNERS.
THEY DON'T HAVE A, A LICENSE THROUGH THE CITY, WHICH IS NOT GOOD.
BUT, UH, THERE, THERE IS SOME CONCERN AMONGST THE, THE, UM, THE GOOD OPERATORS IN THE CITY.
SO WE'LL BE HEARING FROM THEM, HOPEFULLY AS PART OF THIS PROCESS.
HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR COMMUNITY UNDERSTANDS THAT WE ARE TAKING THIS SERIOUSLY, THAT WE ARE MAKING SURE THAT OUR COMMUNITY IS SAFE FOR ALL OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IN NATIONAL CITY.
YES, I JUST WANNA SAY I SUPPORT THIS PROPOSAL, UH, ECHO ALL, EVERYTHING THAT MY COLLEAGUES HAVE SAID, AND I APPRECIATE COUNCILMAN MOLINA.
I I REALLY AGREE ABOUT THE, UH, MAYBE NOT MOVING FORWARD WITH AN ADDITIONAL, UH, PUBLIC HEARING OR A WORKSHOP FOR JULY DURING THE SUMMER.
UM, WE'VE HAD A COUPLE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER JOSE RODRIGUEZ PUT ON, UH, A COUPLE OF THESE WORKSHOPS AND I, AND I, SO I APPRECIATE YOU BEING FLEXIBLE ABOUT THAT BECAUSE, UH, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC TO CONTINUE TO SPEAK ON THIS.
SO JUST DON'T WANT TO BE, WANNA BE EFFICIENT WITH OUR STAFF TIME AND RESOURCES.
UM, OTHERWISE I LIKE THE LANGUAGE AND, UH, THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO MOVE FORWARD.
UM, I, I LIKE THE ADJUSTMENTS TO LANGUAGE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING RIGHT NOW, UH, TO, TO REGULATE.
AND WE HAVE A HOUSING CRISIS AND THIS IS ALSO IMPACTING A, THE HOUSING CRISIS IN ADDITION TO ALL THE OTHER ISSUES THAT ARE GOING ON IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO I SUPPORT THIS AND I WANNA SEE THIS MOVE FORWARD.
ONE THING I THINK HISTORICALLY, AND IT MIGHT BE GOOD TO GET SOME OF THAT ANECDOTAL STUFF FROM OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE, UH, THAT HAVE PUT IN THE SHORT TERM RENTAL, UH, I'M GONNA CALL IT LEGISLATION AND OR ORDINANCES, IS THAT A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN DOING SHORT TERM RENTALS AND IT'S KIND OF A FREE FOR ALL AND THEY KIND OF DO IT, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT HAVING TO REPORT OR ANYTHING ELSE, ONCE THEY HAVE TO START REPORTING, ONCE THEY ARE LIMITED ON DAYS, ONCE THEY HAVE TO START DOING TOT AND ALL THAT, THAT WE FIND, I THINK YOU'RE GONNA FIND THAT IN A LOT OF THESE COMMUNITIES YOU GET A DRASTIC REDUCTION IN THE SHORT-TERM RENTALS BECAUSE THEY BECOME LONG-TERM RENTALS BECAUSE IT'S JUST TOO MUCH OF A HASSLE.
WHERE BEFORE IT WAS JUST, IT WAS NICE AND EASY.
AND, UH, SO, YOU KNOW, IF, SHALL WE SAY, IF WE DO END UP WITH WE, IF YOU SAY WE CURRENTLY HAVE AROUND 200, I GOT A FUNNY FEELING THAT IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, ONCE THIS IS ENACTED, YOU WON'T HAVE 200, YOU'LL HAVE SOMETHING LESS.
UH, THE OTHER THING IS WE, YOU MIGHT NEED TO PUT SOMETHING IN THERE THAT, UH, THAT THE RENTAL ITSELF CANNOT BE USED FOR BUSINESS PURPOSES.
AND CERTAINLY UNLAWFUL BUSINESS PURPOSES ARE A BUSINESS PURPOSE.
AND IT MIGHT BE AN EASIER WAY TO START DEALING WITH THAT.
SO IF PEOPLE ARE IN THERE FOR TWO OR THREE DAYS, THEY CAN'T BE RUNNING A BUSINESS OUT OF THERE.
SOME, YOU KNOW, SOME QUICK, QUICK TYPE BUSINESS.
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ANOTHER THING IS, I LOOK DOWN ON THE DEFINITIONS ON PAGE, UH, 4 39, THERE'S A DEFINITION OF A BEDROOM AND IT'S SAYING THAT IT HAS TO HAVE AT LEAST A WINDOW AND A CLOSET.UM, A LOT OF OUR OLDER HOUSING, UH, THEY HAVE BEDROOMS THAT DO NOT HAVE CLOSETS, BUT THEY HAVE CLOSET CABINETS OR OTHERWISE AND WARS.
SO, YOU KNOW, UH, AND IT'S STILL, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A CABINET CLOSET.
AND SO, UM, BUT NORMALLY WE TALK ABOUT A CLOSET.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A BUILT-IN CLOSET.
SO I, I THINK IT SHOULD STILL BE ALLOWED.
UH, A DEFINITION OF A BEDROOM, UH, SHOULD BE ALLOWED FOR A CABINET CLOSET ALSO.
UM, IT WOULD JUST BE A, A KIND OF A CLEANUP THING.
UH, ON PAGE FOUR 40, JUST SO THAT WE FULLY GET AN UNDERSTANDING HERE, UH, DOWN ON ELIG ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS, A AN APPLICANT'S PRIMARY RESIDENCE MUST BE LOCATED IN THE CITY.
NOW THAT SOUNDS REALLY GOOD 'CAUSE YOU WANT TO HAVE THEM LIVING IN THE CITY.
WHAT ABOUT IF THE, UH, SHALL WE SAY THE UNIT IS ON DIVISION STREET BY DIVISION AND D AND THE PERSON LIVES UP ON BIGS COURT UP ABOVE PLAZA BONITA, BUT WE TELL THE PERSON THAT'S DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET THAT OWNS A HOUSE THAT WOULD BE FACING THIS DEAL? NO, BECAUSE YOU LIVE ACROSS THE STREET, BUT THE PERSON THAT LIVES THREE AND A HALF MILES AWAY.
SO DO YOU REALLY HAVE LOCAL OWNERSHIP? SO I'M JUST WONDERING, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE KIND OF THINK THAT THAT THROUGH BECAUSE IT, UM, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN, AND IT JUST REVERSE OPPOSITE, SHALL WE SAY YOU WANT TO PUT SOMETHING UP ON CAGLE OR SOMEPLACE UP THERE, AND THAT ENDS UP BEING A SHORT TERM RENTAL, BUT THE PERSON LIVES OVER ON ROOSEVELT, YOU KNOW? UH, AND YET YOU COULD HAVE A PERSON THAT COULD LIVE TWO BLOCKS OFF OF, UH, UH, KAGEL THERE THAT'S IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA, AND THEY COULD BE LIVING WITHIN TWO BLOCKS, BUT WE SAY, NO, YOU HAVE TO LIVE THE PERSON OVER ON ROOSEVELT.
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE THINK THAT THROUGH ALL THE WAY.
SO WE REALIZE IT'S NOT NECESSARILY, JUST BECAUSE YOU LIVE IN THE CITY DOESN'T MEAN YOU'RE CLOSER THAN WHAT COULD BE.
AND AS FAR AS AVAILABILITY OR WHATEVER.
UM, THE OTHER ONE DOWN ON G, IT'S SET A PERMIT FOR NO MORE THAN ONE NON-PRIMARY, UH, RESIDENCE.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, YOU COULD NOT HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, AND YOU DEFINITELY DON'T WANT SOMEONE WHO'S GOT 10 OR 12 OR 15 OF THESE.
BUT I'M JUST WONDERING IF WE JUST LIMIT IT TO ONE, DOES THAT REALLY MAKE A GOOD BUSINESS SENSE? UH, 'CAUSE IF A PERSON'S MANAGING THEIR, THEIR UNITS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAD LIKE TWO UNITS OR WHATEVER ALONG THAT LINE, IS THAT A TERRIBLE THING? JUST, JUST BRINGING IT OUT? UM, THE, UH, OTHER THING, BECAUSE I, I STILL DON'T WANT TO HAVE US UN UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES OF BEING ABLE TO, UH, AS WE, WE MAKE THE RULES.
UM, THE, UH, THE OTHER ONE, THE UNHOSTED UNITS, UH, THIS IS ON PAGE 4 44 UNDER S NON, UH, HOSTED UNITS MAY BE USED AS SHORT TERM RENTALS.
NO MORE THAN 90 DAYS PER CALENDAR YEAR.
AND, UH, UM, AND I SAY, I THINK THE MAIN THING THAT'S GONNA DO IS DRIVE PEOPLE TO WANT 'EM TO BE LONG-TERM RENTALS.
BECAUSE IF YOU CAN ONLY DO IT 90 DAYS, WHAT DO YOU DO THE REST OF THE YEAR WITH THEM? AND SO IT'S, UH, UH, SO I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WILL DRIVE PEOPLE TO MAKE THOSE LONG-TERM RENTALS.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, AND DON'T EXPECT ALSO WITH THE NUMBERS SAYING, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE 200 UNITS AND THEY'RE RENTING OUT AT $500 A NIGHT, THIS IS HOW MUCH REVENUE IT'S GONNA BRING IN.
IF YOU'RE ELIMINATING THESE, REALIZE THOSE NUMBERS ARE GONNA BE DRASTICALLY DIFFERENT.
SO JUST, JUST AS LONG AS WE REALIZE THAT, UM, THE, UH, I THINK THAT WAS MOST OF MY NOTES ON THIS ONE.
UM, BUT ANYWAY, THOSE ARE JUST SOME THINGS I THINK TO, UH, CONSIDER AS WE GO, GO THROUGH THIS AND JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE THINK, WE THINK THROUGH THE, UH, THE CONSEQUENCES.
I, I TAKE IT IN THE ORDER WE STARTED WITH BEFORE, UH, MEMBER MOLINA AND RODRIGUEZ.
UM, I DO HAVE TWO MORE COMMENTS TO MAKE.
ONE IS, UM, RELATED TO A COMMENT YOU MADE ABOUT THE 90 DAYS.
UM, AND IT IS A, YOU KNOW, I WENT THROUGH THE THOUGHT PROCESS ABOUT ADDRESSING, UM, THE VERY REAL POTENTIAL THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE A, UM, CITY THAT DOES HAVE A LOT OF, UH, FOLKS THAT ARE IN THE NAVY, FOR EXAMPLE, AND, AND THAT DO GET DEPLOYED.
AND, AND THEY DO GO ON, UH, TOUR, UH, OFTEN AND THEY MAY HAVE THE NEED TO RENT THEIR PROPERTY FOR LONGER THAN, UM, WHAT OUR ORDINANCE
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MAY ALLOW.AND MY SOLUTION TO THAT, I THOUGHT, AND I BRIEFLY SPOKE WITH THE CITY MANAGER ABOUT THIS, IT COULD POTENTIALLY BE THAT WE WOULD ALLOW, OR WE WOULD MAKE AN ACCOMMODATION FOR, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, SOME WAY TO ALLOW THE, THOSE FOLKS, IF THEY WANT TO RENT THEIR PROPERTIES OUT, UH, BEYOND WHAT'S ALLOWED WITHIN OUR SHORT-TERM VACATION RENTAL ORDINANCE.
UM, BUT HAVE IT FALL WITHIN SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
SO A CUP HAVE IT SOMEHOW FIT THROUGH A CUP PROCESS WHERE THEY, UM, IT IS STILL A SHORT-TERM VACATION RENTAL.
THEY STILL HAVE A LICENSE THROUGH THAT PROGRAM, BUT THE, YOU KNOW, GOING BEYOND THE 90 DAYS OR WHATEVER IT IS, IS PART, YOU KNOW, THAT IS ALLOWED THROUGH A C UH, CUP.
UM, AND IF THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT NEED TO BE ALLOWED, YOU KNOW, BEYOND WHAT THE SHORT-TERM VACATION RENTAL ORDINANCE ALLOWS, SUCH AS SOMETHING THAT YOU JUST DESCRIBED, FOR EXAMPLE, THE OWNER IS ACTUALLY, OR THE APPLICANT IS ACTUALLY ACROSS THE STREET PAST THE BOUNDARY OF NATIONAL CITY IN SAN DIEGO, UM, THAT COULD ALSO BE ALLOWED THROUGH A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
YOU KNOW, A COMBINATIONS CAN BE MADE.
UH, I, I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO BE SUCH A STICKLER THAT WE MUST MAINTAIN, YOU KNOW, SUCH STRICT BOUNDARIES THAT, UH, ALLOWANCES CAN'T BE MADE, YOU KNOW, WITHIN REASONABLE BOUNDS.
UM, WE CERTAINLY CAN BE FLEXIBLE, UM, AND I BELIEVE PERHAPS A CUP PROCESS CAN BE ALLOWED, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN BE CREATIVE THAT WAY.
SO, SO THAT'S ONE OF THE SOLUTIONS I THOUGHT ABOUT FOR THAT, UM, NAVY, UH, DEPLOYMENT PROCESS.
THAT COULD BE ONE OF THE SOLUTIONS THERE.
AND THEN THE OTHER THOUGHT THAT I DIDN'T MENTION WHEN I, WHEN I WAS, UH, TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE POINTS, UM, REGARDING, UH, HOW TO SPLIT UP THE NUMBER BETWEEN DISTRICTS, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT OVER CONCENTRATION OF, UM, LICENSES WITHIN A NEIGHBORHOOD WITHIN AN AREA.
SO NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, UM, DOLING OUT LICENSES WITHIN A SPECIFIC AREA OR WITHIN A SPECIFIC DISTRICT, BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, TAKING CARE TO, UH, NOTICE THAT AN ADDRESS OR, YOU KNOW, HOWEVER MANY ADDRESSES, THEY'RE NOT ALL CONCENTRATED IN ONE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, I'D LIKE TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION TO PREVENT OVER CONCENTRATION, UM, AND MAYBE PERHAPS TAKE CARE TO LIMIT, UH, HOW MANY LICENSES GO OUT WITHIN A CERTAIN RADIUS, FOR EXAMPLE.
UH, AND MAYOR, IF YOU'RE READY FOR A MOTION, I, I, I THINK WE STILL HAVE SOME DISCUSSION.
UH, MEMBER RODRIGUEZ WASN'T A DISCUSSION.
I ACTUALLY WAS GONNA, UH, MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF TO BRING BACK AN ORDINANCE, UM, A SHORT-TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE.
UM, AND IS THAT TO TAKE IN SOME OF THE, UH, DISCUSSION THAT HAS BEEN HAD UP HERE THIS EVENING TO INCORPORATE? OKAY.
UH, FIRST OF ALL, I'M LOOK AT CITY MANAGER.
I THINK, UM, A LOT OF GOOD FEEDBACK.
IS THERE A WAY WE CAN BUILD SOME MORE CONSENSUS AROUND SOME OF THAT FEEDBACK? MM-HMM
SO THAT'D BE A LITTLE BIT EASIER FOR US TO BRING BACK A ORDINANCE.
UM, YOU KNOW, GETTING FEEDBACK ABOUT, UH, WELL FIRST OFF, I THINK WITH, UH, MARTIN, IS THE CUP PROCESS THE RIGHT PROCESS FOR THAT? OR, OR DO WE HAVE ANOTHER PROCESS THAT WOULD FIT BETTER? WELL, IT DEPENDS ON, ON IF WE'RE LOOKING FOR ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING OR IF WE CAN WANNA MAKE THAT A, A ADMINISTRATIVE OR, OR STAFF LEVEL PROCESS.
WE DO HAVE A MINOR USE PERMIT, WHICH WOULD BE ABLE TO, UH, PUT CONDITIONS ON A PROJECT AND HAVE TIME LIMITATIONS AND, UH, REPORTING, FOR EXAMPLE, INSPECTION REQUIREMENTS.
A CUP IS A DISCRETIONARY ACTION THAT, THAT WILL COME TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL.
THAT WOULD BE A LOT MORE WORK.
PLUS IT GETS RECORDED AGAINST THE PROPERTY.
AND FOR TEMPORARY USE, THAT MAY NOT BE APPROPRIATE, BUT THERE IS THE MINOR USE PERMIT OR INTERIM USE PERMIT.
WE, WE COULD FIGURE OUT A WAY TO DO THAT.
I'M OPEN TO WHAT YOU WOULD SEE FITS BEST WITHIN THAT ORDINANCE AND, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, PUT IT IN THE FIRST DRAFT AND WE CAN REVIEW IT AND ABSOLUTELY.
SO I THINK, I THINK WE CAN, UM, IF WE CAN BREAK UP SOME OF THESE SUGGESTIONS AND JUST TALK ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT MORE, LIKE YEAH.
IF YOU HAVE AN IDEA ABOUT HOW MANY PER DISTRICT, UM, AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION THAT CAME UP, AND I'VE HEARD THIS IN, IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS, THEY HAVE A LIMITATION SOMETIMES IN A PARTICULAR AREA OF HOW MANY CAN BE IN THAT AREA.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANNA LOOK AT THAT BY BLOCK, UM, OR JUST LET IT GO WITH THE
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NUMBER IN THE DISTRICT.UM, YOU KNOW, YOUR DISTRICTS BETTER THAN THAN WE DO.
AND DO YOU ALREADY HAVE A CONGLOMERATION OF THEM ALREADY? UH, IN THE BEACH COMMUNITY, THAT'S A DIFFERENT ANIMAL.
HERE THEY MAY BE MORE SPREAD OUT, SO, OKAY.
I, I THINK SO WE DID HAVE STAFF LOOK AT THE NUMBER THAT ARE EXISTING AND THERE ARE MOSTLY CONCENTRATING DISTRICT ONE.
IT'S SORT OF IN THE CENTRAL PART OF THE CITY SO THAT, YOU KNOW, ONE AND AS WELL AS, UH, TWO I BELIEVE SO ONE AND TWO.
SO, I MEAN, THEY'RE ALL OVER THE CITY, BUT THAT'S, WOULD IT MAKE SENSE TO BRING BACK AT LEAST A PERCENTAGE CAP? SO MAYBE NO MORE THAN 40% OF THE LICENSES IN ONE DISTRICT? I, I'M JUST TRYING TO BALANCE OFF WHAT'S ALREADY EXISTING AND THEN WHAT, WHAT'S OUR CAP, WHAT'S OUR LIMIT? COULD, COULD, COULD I BRING FORTH AN IDEA MAYBE ON THAT? AND I'M JUST GONNA THROW AN IMAGINARY NUMBER.
SHALL, SHALL WE SAY, IF WE SAY THE TOTAL CAP WILL BE 160, I'M USING THAT 'CAUSE IT'S A ROUND, ROUND NUMBER.
WELL, YOU'D NORMALLY THINK THAT'D BE 40 PER DISTRICT, BUT IF YOU WAS TO SAY 160 CITYWIDE AND NO MORE THAN 50 IN ANY ONE DISTRICT.
SO THAT DOES ALLOW FOR A LITTLE BIT OF FLEXIBILITY.
BUT ONCE YOU HIT THE 160, THAT'S IT.
BUT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, SO IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THE MAGIC NUMBER.
EVERYONE GETS THE SAME NUMBER BECAUSE THAT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE SOMETIMES 'CAUSE THE WAY THEY'RE LAID OUT.
BUT, UH, BUT THAT STILL DOESN'T ALLOW THE OVER CONCENTRATION.
AND THAT GETS AROUND THE EQUITY QUESTION OF, OF DETERMINING, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANNA BE ARBITRARY WITH A NUMBER PER DISTRICT IF THAT DISTRICT IS NOT NECESSARILY GONNA GENERATE AS MANY MM-HMM
BECAUSE MAYBE IT'S MORE INDUSTRIAL OR IT HAS MORE MULTIFAMILY, FOR EXAMPLE.
BUT, UH, AS PART OF THIS RESEARCH, UH, NUMBER ONE WE'RE WE'LL BRING BACK LANGUAGE MM-HMM
BUT I'LL LOOK IN, UH, MORE SPECIFICALLY OTHER JURISDICTIONS TO SEE WHAT THEY DO.
AND IF THERE'S ANYONE THAT DOES SOMETHING SIMILAR OKAY.
BUT I THINK STAFF IS LOOKING FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE YEAH, I THINK SPECIFIC DIRECTION.
'CAUSE WE THREW OUT A LOT OF DIFFERENT IDEAS.
WELL THAT ONE'S GOOD, THAT IF EVERYBODY LIKES THAT ONE, THAT THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN WORK WITH.
UM, IN TERMS OF, UM, THE OWNER, UH, BEING IN TOWN VERSUS, UM, LET'S SAY ON A BORDER OF OUR BORDER BETWEEN YEAH.
WHETHER IT'S CHULA VISTA OR THE COUNTY OR, OR SAN DIEGO.
YOU COULD JUST PUT, WE COULD PUT, YOU KNOW, A NUMBER OF THAT.
LIKE YOU HAVE TO BE WITHIN A QUARTER MILE IF YOU'RE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY, UM, I THINK WITHIN THE CITY IS FINE, BUT IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT SOMEONE WHO COULD BE STILL, THE IDEA IS TO BE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY, CLOSE.
SO YOU CAN RESPOND AND, UH, I LIKE THAT IDEA.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME ACCEPTABLE DISTANCE.
YEAH, I'M SEEING KIND OF THUMBS UP ALL THE WAY AROUND ON THAT.
UM, SO IT WOULD HAVE TO BE LIVE IN THE CITY OR BE WITHIN A CERTAIN DISTANCE OF THE, UH, OF THE UNIT AS YOUR PRIMARY RESIDENCY.
UM, WHAT WAS THE OTHER ONES THAT YOU WANT? UM, MARTIN, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON ITEMS THAT YOU WANT MORE SPECIFICITY? UH, I, I DON'T THINK SO.
UM, AS FAR AS THE, THE MINOR USE PERMIT, CUP DISCUSSION, I MEAN, THAT'S REALLY GONNA BE FOR A VERY SMALL AMOUNT OF PEOPLE.
'CAUSE ONCE YOU GET TO THIR MORE THAN 30 DAYS, YOU'RE CONSIDERED A LONG-TERM RENTAL AT THAT POINT.
SO HOPEFULLY WE WON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT TOO MUCH.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CHANCES, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN TWO DAYS AND 30 DAYS, WE'LL FIGURE OUT A WAY TO ADDRESS THAT.
BUT I THINK I HAVE ENOUGH DIRECTION TO MOVE FORWARD TO AT LEAST COME BACK WITH SOME DRAFT LANGUAGE OR ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE.
I WOULD ANTICIPATE WE'RE GONNA GET FEEDBACK ABOUT THE 90 DAY.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE I WOULD THINK, UM, MAYBE THE, UM, MINOR USE PERMIT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT MIGHT PLAY A ROLE.
CAN WE GET JUST A LITTLE CLARITY ON THE INTENT OF THE 90 DAY, BECAUSE AFTER 30 DAYS YOU'RE REALLY GOING INTO AN AREA OF TENANCY, RIGHT.
AND THERE'S A WHOLE SLEW OF STATE LAW THAT APPLIES TO TENANT RIGHTS AND OTHER ISSUES THAT WE WOULD NOT NECESSARILY WANNA ADDRESS THROUGH THIS.
UH, I I JUST WANT TO, I DON'T GET AN UNDERSTANDING.
I THINK THE 90 DAY IS TOTAL NUMBER OF DAYS YOU CAN RENT.
UM, IF, IF WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CARLOS, IS TO PUT A LIMIT ON HOW LONG YOU CAN ACTUALLY STAY IN A RENTAL, UM, THEN IT'S NOT A SHORT TERM RENTAL, IF THAT'S CORRECT.
THE INTENT OF THE 90 DAYS IS IN A SPAN OF 12 MONTHS, A LICENSEE THAT IS NOT PRESENT ON THE PROPERTY.
SO A NON HOSTED RENTAL, UH, HAS THE ABILITY TO RENT OUT THE PROPERTY FOR A TOTAL OF 90 DAYS IN A SPAN OF 12 MONTHS.
SO WHAT'S WHAT'S DONE WITH THE PROPERTY, THE OTHER HUNDRED, THE OTHER 275 DAYS? THAT WAS A LITTLE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WOULD DO WITH THE REST OF THE, MAYBE
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THEY COULD HAVE THEIR FRIENDS STAY THERE WITHOUT GENERATING INCOME, I DON'T KNOW.BUT THE INTENT IS TO MINIMIZE, UM, FOLKS THAT WANT TO MAKE A PROFIT, MAKE A BUSINESS INSTEAD OF RENT OF RENTING OUT TO THE PROPERTY FOR LONG TERM.
IT, IT'S, THE INTENT IS TO MINIMIZE THE POTENTIAL TO REMOVE A RENTAL PROPERTY THAT COULD GO TO A FAMILY THAT COULD RENT IT LONG TERM.
UM, I IN ESSENCE, IT'S TRYING TO PROTECT THE LONG TERM RENTALS.
WE'LL LOOK AT BEST PRACTICES IN THAT, UM, IN THAT ARENA BECAUSE IT SEEMS A LITTLE BIT CHOPPY TO RUN IT OUT AS A SHORT TERM AND THEN HAVE TO FIGURE OUT ANOTHER WAY TO MAKE MONEY WITH IT AND THEN BRING IT BACK AS A SHORT TERM.
IT DOES, BUT, WE'LL, I, UNDERSTANDING THE, THE, THE LOGIC BEHIND YEAH.
THERE'S A, BEHIND THAT WALL IN YOUR EXAMPLE, THERE WAS ANOTHER CITY THAT HAD 90 DAYS, UM, CHULA VISTA.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS CHULA VISTA, BUT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE'S SOME INSIGHT THERE TOO.
WELL, I, I THINK HISTORICALLY IN, UM, IN SAN DIEGO, AND DEFINITELY IN THE BEACH COMMUNITIES, THERE WAS A SITUATION WHERE A LOT OF THE HOMES WERE RENTED OUT FOR, UH, FROM LABOR DAY TO MEMORIAL DAY.
AND THEN IN THE SUMMERTIME, WHICH WOULD BE ABOUT 90 DAYS, UH, THEY WOULD GO TO RENTALS FOR VACATION RENTALS.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE QUITE HAVE THAT SAME PHENOMENON HERE.
UM, BUT THAT'S PROBABLY WHERE YOU SAW A LOT OF THE 90 DAY ITEMS COMING OUT OF THAT TYPE OF, UH, ACTIVITY.
I I DO THINK IT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.
UM, THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT INVEST IN REAL ESTATE DO SO IN SHORT OR LONG, THERE ISN'T REALLY AN INBETWEEN MM-HMM
AND SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO REALIZE THAT IF WE ARE GONNA HAVE AN ORDINANCE AND WE'RE GONNA BE DISCUSSING IT, WE HAVE TO ALSO BE AMENABLE TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE INVESTING IN THE PROPERTIES.
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, HAVING A SHORT TERM RENTAL MEANS INVESTING IN ANYTHING FROM PERMITS TO FURNITURE TO A MILLION OTHER THINGS, LONG TERM IS A DIFFERENT BALLGAME.
CLEANING, UH, CLEANING AS WELL.
SO, SO I THINK THAT IF WE'RE GONNA MAKE AN ORDINANCE FOR ONE THING, WE SHOULD FOCUS ON ONE THING.
IF WE'RE DOING IT ON ANOTHER, WE SHOULD DO IT ON ANOTHER.
SO, UM, I THINK WE HAVE TO BE LOOKING AT BOTH SIDES OBJECTIVELY.
NO, I DO THINK, AND, AND TO SCOTT'S POINT, I, I THINK PROTECTING STUDENT HOUSING, PER SE, DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR WAS THE INTENT.
I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE THAT HERE, SO MM-HMM
AND TO, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER RODRIGUEZ'S POINT, IT JUST FROM, FROM, FROM A CASHFLOW STANDPOINT, FROM AN OPERATING STANDPOINT, FROM A BUSINESS STANDPOINT, IT'S JUST VERY DIFFICULT TO OPERATE IN THAT.
AND WITH THAT BUSINESS MODEL IN MIND, IF THERE'S NO DEMAND FOR STUDENT HOUSING ONE PART OF THE YEAR, AND VACATION HOUSING ANOTHER, YOU, YOU WANT THAT FLEXIBILITY TO RUN MORE THAN 90 DAYS.
WELL, THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.
UM, UH, I, I AM INTERESTED IN HEARING FROM THE PUBLIC.
AND, UM, ONE FINAL POINT TO MAKE IS, UH, SO I INVITE THE PUBLIC TO SHARE WITH US THEIR THOUGHTS, YOUR THOUGHTS, IF YOU ARE INTERESTED, IF YOU ARE A PERSON THAT, UM, IS PART OF THE MARKET, IF YOU RENT OUT YOUR HOUSE CURRENTLY ANYWHERE.
IF YOU ARE A PERSON THAT LIKES TO SEEK, UM, AIRBNBS AND, AND LIKES TO DO THAT, I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU, SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS WITH US.
WE TURNS OUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A PUBLIC FORUM IN THE SUMMER.
UM, BUT DO, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA HAVE A TOWN HALL, UH, AT THE END OF THIS MONTH ON THE 24TH.
YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME AND TALK TO ME ABOUT YOUR IDEAS AROUND THIS ORDINANCE.
I'M SURE MANY OF THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS HERE WOULD WELCOME YOUR THOUGHTS.
AND THEN IN AUGUST WILL BE WHEN WE DISCUSS THIS AGAIN AT CITY COUNCIL.
SO, UM, YEAH, IF, IF YOU HAVE OTHER IDEAS ABOUT THESE 90 DAYS FOR UNHOSTED SITES, I WELCOME THE PUBLIC'S INPUT.
SAY YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC, WE HAVE A PUBLIC SPEAKER.
AND ANYBODY ELSE WHO WANTS TO INVITE ME, I'LL GIVE YOU MY THOUGHTS.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, I'M A LITTLE BASHFUL, BUT, UM, NO, NO.
I, I ACTUALLY THINK, UH, COMPARE IT TO THE WAY THE ORDINANCE WAS ORIGINALLY WRITTEN TO WHAT WE HAVE NOW, UM, IS AN INCREDIBLE, UH, AMOUNT OF, UH, SENSITIVITY TO WHAT THE ISSUES WERE AND WHAT I FELT, UH, I I, I, UH, I THINK I SAID ENOUGH WITH THAT, BUT I, I JUST WANTED TO KNOW THAT, UM,
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I STILL HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE NUMBER OF RENTALS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.YOU KNOW, I, I JUST DON'T REALLY, SOMEBODY SAYS 200, SOMEBODY ACTUALLY HAD SAID LESS THAN 101 OF YOUR, ONE OF YOUR, UH, CONSTITUENTS SAID THAT THEY'VE RESEARCHED THIS AND, UM, THEY THINK IT'S LESS THAN A HUNDRED.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THIS EFFORT IS REALLY GOING TO HAVE A, A, A REAL EFFECT.
I ALSO LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE POLICE WHETHER THE RECENT CHANGE THAT WE HAD, UM, OR CRACKDOWN, WHAT EFFECT IT DID HAVE ON THE PROSTITUTION PROBLEM IN THIS AREA.
YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF, IF THERE'S MORE FACILITY
SAY, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS ORDINANCE REALLY HAD THE INTENDED EFFECT.
I'M GLAD THE POLICE TOOK THE ACTION THEY DID, BUT I, I THINK THERE'S STILL SOME DATA THAT'S MISSING.
LET ME JUST SAY THAT THE, UH, AND I KNOW WE HAVE A CAPTAIN HERE.
THE, UH, THE ACTION THAT TOOK PLACE A COUPLE WEEKS AGO IS WHEN THAT HAS BEEN, UM, IN THE WORKS FOR A LONG, LONG TIME, AND, UH, UH, DEALING WITH A LOT OF AGENCIES, AND WE WON'T GO BEYOND THAT POINT, BUT JUST TO SAY THAT'S, AND IT'S STILL AN ONGOING, UH, SITUATION.
SO IT WASN'T BECAUSE OF THE ACTION, UH, THAT HAPPENED, WHAT, A MONTH OR SO AGO THAT BROUGHT THIS UP.
THIS WAS ALREADY, THIS WAS ALREADY PART OF WHAT THE POLICE WERE LOOKING AT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THEY HAD TO WAIT ON, UH, THE ACTION, THE MULTI-JURISDICTIONAL ACTION THAT THAT WENT DOWN.
AND THAT, THAT WAS A HUGE AMOUNT OF, UH, BACKGROUND WORK TO GET, GET TO THAT POINT AND STILL, STILL ONGOING.
UM, SO WITH THAT, UM, MAYOR, MAYOR, I'M SORRY, IF I MAY STAFF ONE MORE TIME.
UH, FOR THOSE, UH, FOR WANTING TO COMMENT IN BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN WE COME BACK, WHICH WILL LIKELY BE THE SECOND MEETING IN AUGUST, UH, EVERYONE'S WELCOME TO EMAIL THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AT PLANNING P-L-A-N-N-I-N G@NATIONALCITYCA.GOV.
NATIONAL C CA IS ALL ONE WORD.
AND PLEASE, UH, ANYONE, YOU KNOW, PRO OR CON OR ANYTHING IN BETWEEN, PLEASE LET US KNOW.
AND WE'LL BE HAPPY TO PRESENT THAT INFORMATION IN THE NEXT STAFF REPORT.
DO YOU NEED ANY OTHER CLARIFICATIONS OR DIRECTIONS ON THINGS THAT WERE SET UP HERE TONIGHT? NO.
I THINK WHAT, UM, WHAT YOU CAN EXPECT US TO BRING BACK IN AUGUST IS WE ALSO HAVE TO PUT THE COMPLIANCE AND ADMINISTRATIVE PROGRAM AROUND THIS.
SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ORDINANCE LANGUAGE, BUT WE ALSO HAVE A COMPLIANCE AND ADMINISTRATIVE PROGRAM TO PUT AROUND IT.
WHICH WILL MAKE UP WHAT OUR COSTS ARE THAT WE CAN THEN MM-HMM
DO FULL COST RECOVERY AS, AS PART OF OUR EFFORT.
WE DO HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
AND, UH, THIS IS TO INSTRUCT STAFF TO BRING BACK AN ORDINANCE AND FOR, UH, THAT'D BE FOR HER FIRST READING.
AND WE CAN SEE WHAT OTHER THINGS COME IN IN THE MEANTIME, DURING, DURING THE BREAK.
UH, JUST, UH, UH, OUTTA CURIOSITY, DO WE HAVE A, A TIMELINE FOR THE ORDINANCE TO BE BROUGHT BACK? MOST LIKELY THE SECOND MEETING IN AUGUST, THAT'S WHAT I'M MM-HMM
THAT GIVES ME A, A WHOLE MONTH TO PREPARE PLUS, UH, AND TO LIGHTEN THE AGENDA FOR THE FIRST ONE BACK.
I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION.
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WE GET INTO, UH, 11 TWO.THIS IS THE, UH, CITY MANAGER EXECUTIVE RECRUITMENT SELECTION PROCESS AND GET BACK OVER HERE.
UM, WE DID HAVE A, UH, SUBCOMMITTEE THAT WAS, TOOK A LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT, UM, UH, APPLICANTS THAT WE HAD AS FAR AS FOR A, AN AGENCY OR HEAD HUNTERS, WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL THEM.
UM, WHAT'S THE PROPER TERM THAT WE SHOULD BE USING? I, IM A EXECUTIVE SEARCH FIRM.
THE WHAT? EXECUTIVE SEARCH FIRM.
AND, UH, SO ANYWAY, UM, WE DID, UH, WE DID GO THROUGH A PROCESS.
WAS IT PAST LAST WEEK ALREADY? THAT WAS LAST WEEK THAT WE DID THOSE.
UM, MY, IT WAS MYSELF AND MEMBER MOLINA.
UH, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS? NO, I JUST APPRECIATE, UH, THE ORGANIZATION BY OUR, UM, UH, UH, HR DIRECTOR.
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SHE WAS ABLE TO HELP US WITH ALL OF THE SETUP OF THE INTERVIEWS, AND WE WERE ABLE TO SWIFTLY INTERVIEW THE FOUR CANDIDATES.AND, UM, I'M VERY HAPPY WITH THE RESULT.
FOR THE AGENDA REPORT, WE HAD FOUR DIFFERENT FIRMS THAT WERE INTERVIEWED.
UH, IT WAS IT TWO ON MONDAY, TWO ON TUESDAY, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, LAST WEEK.
AND, UH, UM, AND AS ALL OF 'EM WERE, ALL OF 'EM WERE VERY QUALIFIED IN DIFFERENT WAYS.
UH, BUT THE FINAL SELECTION CAME DOWN TO, UH, RALPH, UH, ANDERSON AND ASSOCIATES.
UM, AND ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT REALLY KIND OF TIPPED THE SCALE IN THEIR FAVOR, UH, WAS THEIR EXTENSIVE RECRUITMENTS FOR CITY MANAGERS.
AND, UH, UH, THERE WERE, UH, OTHER FIRMS THAT WERE, UH, THAT DID CITY MANAGERS, BUT THEY DID A LOT OF OTHER STUFF.
THEY WERE DOING WATER AGENCIES AND THEY WERE DOING DEPARTMENT HEADS AND A LOT OF OTHER THINGS.
BUT THIS FIRM HAD EXTENSIVE, UH, IN CALIFORNIA, UH, CALIFORNIA RECRUITMENT OF CITY MANAGERS.
AND SO, UM, REALLY KIND OF STOOD OUT.
UH, THEIR, UH, ALSO THEIR, THEIR CONTRACT WAS VERY FAVORABLE.
UH, IT WAS ONE THAT GAVE A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY.
SOME, SOME OF THE IN, UH, SOME OF 'EM WOULD ONLY ALLOW FOR SO MANY DIFFERENT VISITS WITH THE COUNCIL.
AFTER THAT, THEY WOULD CHARGE EXTRA.
THIS GROUP SAID WHATEVER WE GOTTA DO TO MAKE IT HAPPEN, AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S STILL GONNA BE THE SET SET AMOUNT.
AND, UH, SO THEY, UH, UM, THEY WEREN'T THE CHEAPEST, BUT THEY CERTAINLY WEREN'T NOWHERE NEAR THE HIGHEST AND, UH, BUT YET OFFERED A WHOLE LOT MORE SERVICES AND A LOT MORE EXPERIENCE.
SO THAT WAS THE, UH, THE RECOMMENDATION THAT CAME OUT OF, UH, THE COMMITTEE.
AND I SAY THAT WAS, UM, MYSELF, UH, MEMBER MOLINA AND, UH, UH, LYDIA ALSO.
AND, UH, UM, SO THAT IS OUR RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE GO AHEAD WITH THIS, THIS SEARCH FIRM AND ALLOW THEM TO START DOING WORK.
THEY WOULD, UH, BE DOING A NUMBER OF THINGS.
THEIR RECOMMENDATION IS TO GO AHEAD AND BE MEETING WITH THE DIFFERENT COUNCIL MEMBERS.
AND IT CAN EITHER BE DONE IN PERSON OR ZOOM, WHATEVER'S MOST, UH, IT'S EASY FOR EVERYONE 'CAUSE THEY WANT TO GET EVERYONE'S FEEL FOR, YOU KNOW, WHAT OUR EX INDIVIDUAL EXPECTATIONS ARE.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, AND THE THINGS THAT, UM, THAT WOULD BE OUR, THAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING FOR IN A CITY MANAGER.
SO THEY WOULD WANT TO TALK WITH EACH ONE OF US ON THAT.
UM, THEY WOULD ALSO PROBABLY TALK SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE DIFFERENT, UH, DEPARTMENT HEAD STAFF PEOPLE ALSO, AND KIND OF GETTING A, A FEEL FOR WHAT, WHAT THEY FEEL THE NEEDS ARE.
SO THEY WOULD BE DOING THAT, THEN THEY WOULD BE GOING OUT, THERE'D BE, UH, WE HAVE NOT FORMALLY ADVERTISED IT YET.
WE DID HAD, DID HAVE TO PUT IT OUT A NOTICE SIMPLY TO BE ABLE TO HIRE AN ANNUITANT.
WE HAD TO PUT OUT THAT THERE WAS A VACANCY.
SO WE DID THAT, AND WE'D ALREADY RECEIVED QUITE A FEW APPLICANTS JUST OFF OF THAT.
AND SO THAT, WHICH WAS REALLY GOOD.
SO, BUT THEY WOULD BE GOING AND PUTTING OUT A FORMAL, UH, ADVERTISEMENT.
AND OF COURSE THEY HAVE A LOT OF CONTACTS WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT CITY MANAGERS IN A, IN A LOT OF CITIES THROUGHOUT CALIFORNIA.
SO THEY HAVE A GOOD FEEL FOR, UH, INDIVIDUALS THAT MIGHT FIT OUR REQUIREMENTS.
AND AT THE SAME TIME, UH, THAT MIGHT BE LOOKING, UH, TO, TO MAKE A CHANGE.
AND, UH, SO THEY WOULD BE BRINGING ALL OF THOSE IN.
BUT THEN WE GO DOWN TO HOW WE WOULD WANT TO GO DOWN WITH THE SELECTION PROCESS ON THIS.
UM, AND REMEMBER MOLINA, YOU CAN, UM, YELL AT ME IF I'M GETTING ANY OF THIS WRONG.
UH, THEIR BASIC, UM, THEIR RECOMMENDATION IS, AND LYDIA, YOU CAN THROW SOMETHING AT ME ALSO.
UM, THEY, UH, UH, THEY WOULD TAKE THE OVERALL GROUPING OF IT.
AND THERE'S ALWAYS GONNA BE SOME PEOPLE THAT APPLY THIS, YOU KNOW, THEIR MANAGEMENT SKILLS ARE, THEY'VE, THEY'VE MANAGED A, YOU KNOW, A SEVEN 11 THAT DOESN'T, THAT'S NOT A CITY MANAGER TYPE OF THING.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE JUST NOT QUALIFIED AT ALL.
AND THEY, THEY WOULD CALL THOSE OUT RIGHT OFF THE TOP.
AND THEN THEY WOULD, UH, SEPARATE 'EM INTO, INTO THE, UH, DIFFERENT TIERS.
UH, THE ONES THAT THEY THINK ARE THE MOST QUALIFIED, THE SECOND TIER, POSSIBLY A THIRD TIER.
UM, AND IT'S A VERY, VERY COMMON PRACTICE.
AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION ON HOW WE WANT, WHAT DO WE WANT TO DO? DO WE WANT TO PERSONALLY INTERVIEW A LARGE NUMBER? AND, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE PROBABLY OVER A NUMBER OF DAYS.
AND THOSE WOULD BE HAVE TO BE SPECIAL MEETINGS AND, UM, OR DO WE WANT TO, UH, HAVE IT NARROWED DOWN AND HOW MANY DO DOES THE COUNCIL ACTUALLY WANT TO GET DOWN AND DOING THE PERSONAL INTERVIEWS ON? SO ANYWAY, UH, REMIND, THANK YOU.
UM, FIRST, UM, THE FIRST PRESENTATION THAT WE WERE, UM, PRESENTED WAS, THIS IS NOT
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TO EXCEED 60,000.WHAT IS THE COST OF THE INCREASE COST ON THIS ONE? WE'RE NOT EXCEEDING THAT.
IF, IF I CAN, UH, ADDRESS THAT THE, UH, THE COST I BELIEVE WAS LIKE 40 OR OR BELOW THAT AMOUNT.
BUT WE, WE, AFTER THE FACT UNRELATED TO THE CITY MANAGER'S SEARCH, WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS FIRM, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF DEPARTMENT HEADS PLUS POTENTIALLY ANOTHER EXECUTIVE PO COUPLE OF EXECUTIVE POSITIONS.
AND WE WANTED TO HAVE THE ABILITY, AND WE CAN STILL COME THROUGH YOU IF YOU WANT, BUT WE WANTED TO HAVE THE ABILITY OF POTENTIALLY USING THIS FIRM TO HELP US RECRUIT THOSE.
AND THAT'S WHY WE JUST UPPED THE AMOUNT.
IT WASN'T, WE, WE DIDN'T GIVE THEM A PROPOSAL OR ANYTHING.
WE JUST FIGURED IF WE HAD MORE, THEN WE'D HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY.
WE ALREADY HAVE THEM ON, ON BOARD, AND WE COULD COME TO YOU FOR USING IT FOR RECRUITMENT FOR OTHER POSITIONS.
SO, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, WAS THE NUMBER ON THIS, 'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE IT IN HERE, BUT I DON'T HAVE MY NOTES WITH ME.
IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, I THINK THEIR NUMBER WAS LIKE 37,000, WASN'T IT? APPROXIMATELY THAT AMOUNT? YEAH.
SO THE, THE, THE, THERE IS THE RECRUITMENT PORTION OF IT, BUT ALSO THERE HAD BEEN A REQUEST THAT A SURVEY BE DONE OF THE COMMUNITY AS TO MM-HMM
WHAT THEY ARE ALSO LOOKING FOR IN THE NEXT CITY MANAGER.
SO THAT IS AN ADDITIONAL COST OF APPROXIMATELY $3,800.
UM, BUT WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET THAT COMPLETED WITH THIS PROCESS.
SO IT STILL DID FIT UNDER OUR ORIGINAL $50,000 COST.
BUT AS A CITY MANAGER WHO STATED, UH, BECAUSE OF THE IMPENDING RETIREMENT AND RESIGNATIONS OF TWO, UH, ADDITIONAL EXECUTIVE TEAM MEMBERS, HE'S GIVING THAT ABILITY TO GET THEIR ASSISTANCE IN FILLING SOME OF THESE HARDER TO FILL POSITIONS.
I WOULD LIKE TO FOCUS ON THE CITY MANAGER'S, UH, POSITION FIRST.
UM, AND THAT WOULD BE NOT TO EXCEED 50,000 AS PER THE PREVIOUS REPORT.
THE, UH, YEAH, I, I DO FIND IT IMPERATIVE FOR US TO FILL THE MM-HMM
MANAGER POSITION FIRST, UM, AND TO PRIORITIZE IT.
AND LET ME SAY THAT THERE WERE OTHER, IN, IN SOME OF THE OTHER SEARCH FIRMS, WHICH WE DID NOT FEEL WERE AS QUALIFIED AND DID NOT GIVE US NEAR AS MUCH IN THE CONTRACT FLEXIBILITY, EVERYTHING ELSE, THEY WERE HITTING THAT 50,000 RANGE.
AND SO, UH, THEY WERE BUMPING RIGHT UP AGAINST IT.
SO THERE WAS BACK, I THINK ONE OF 'EM THAT WAS OVER, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, CLOSE, FAIRLY CLOSE TO THE $50,000 RANGE.
UM, BUT THE, ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS FOR, AS THE MAYOR STATED, WAS THE ABILITY FOR THIS FIRM TO COME AND ASSIST US.
UM, SOME OF THE OTHER FIRMS HAD A THREE TO FIVE, UM, VISIT LIMIT, AND ANYTHING UP AND ABOVE THAT WE WOULD BE CHARGED FOR EACH ADDITIONAL VISIT.
WHERE THIS COMPANY DOES NOT HAVE THAT.
AND, UH, AND THEY ALSO DO A, UH, A ONE YEAR GUARANTEE THAT IS CORRECT.
THEY DO OFFER THE ONE YEAR GUARANTEE IF WE CHOOSE THE PERS ONE OF THE PERSONS THAT IS RECOMMENDED BY THE FIRM.
UM, IF YOU GO UP AND CHOOSE SOMEONE ELSE THAT WAS NOT RECOMMENDED AS HIGHLY AS THE OTHERS, OR YOU GO AWAY FROM THAT AND CHOOSE YOUR OWN PERSON, THEY WOULD NOT THEN RE-RECRUIT WITHIN THE NEXT YEAR.
SO IT'S KIND OF A GUARANTEE THAT, UH, THE PERSON THAT THEY'RE CHOOSING IS THE RIGHT FIT FOR THE ORGANIZATION AND THEY WOULD THEN REDO THE RECRUITMENT FOR US FOR FREE.
AND WE'RE ONLY LOOKING FOR A CITY MANAGER FOR THIS.
ON THIS CON ON THIS, THAT IS THE PRIORITY ON THIS CONTRACT ACCORDING TO THE, THE MOTION.
SO LET'S, LET'S, OKAY, LET'S, CAN I ADD ONE MORE THING? YES.
AND I THINK WE CAN EASILY WORK WITH WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING ABOUT CITY MANAGER, WHAT WILL HAPPEN.
UH, AND YOU MAY WANT TO THINK ABOUT IT, I DON'T KNOW IF THE SUBCOMMITTEE IS, IS YOUR CHOICE, BUT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE THE SUBCOMMITTEE WORK ON SOME OF THIS PROCESS BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE LIKE ADVERTISEMENTS OR A BROCHURE THAT WILL COME TO US AND, AND HAVING THAT SUBCOMMITTEE GIVE FEEDBACK WOULD BE HELPFUL IN THE PROCESS TO KEEP IT MOVING.
AND, UH, BRI THE CHAIR, THE SUBCOMMITTEE WAS, UH, TASKED TO, UH, PROCEED WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND THAT'S IT.
SO THAT'S THE ONLY THING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW.
AND, UH, SO, UH, IF YOU DON'T MIND, YOU KNOW, THE SUBCOMMITTEE, WE CAN CONTINUE, UM, WORKING WITH HR AND THEN WORKING WITH THE, UM, CONTRACTOR AND TO KEEP THE PROCESS MOVING AHEAD DURING, DURING THIS BREAK.
AND MOST OF IT THAT WILL BE DONE BY THE CONTRACTOR, THAT THAT'S WHEN THEY'RE GONNA BE
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PUTTING OUT, UH, THE MATERIAL AND THEN GETTING, GETTING THOSE RESULTS IN AND START COLLATING THOSE RESULTS.AND THEN WE CAN WORK TOGETHER WITH THEM AND, UH, THEN TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT DOES THE COUNCIL WANT US TO BRING BACK TO THE COUNCIL.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IN OTHER WORDS, HOW WIDE RANGING OR HOW LIMITED WHATEVER, WHATEVER'S COUNCIL'S, UH, PREROGATIVE.
AND, AND PART OF WHAT THE, UH, THE FIRM WILL DO IS THEY WILL BE DOING AN EXTENSIVE BACKGROUND FOR ANY OF YOUR CANDIDATES THAT YOU SEE FOR YOUR, UM, INITIAL INTERVIEW.
THERE WILL BE A, A CURSORY, UM, BACKGROUND, BUT THEN A EX UH, AN EXTENSIVE BACKGROUND, UM, FOR THE FINAL CANDIDATE.
SO THROUGH THE CHAIR, ONCE THIS, UH, FIRM GETS, UM, CONTRACTED FOR, YOU KNOW, I MEAN THIS, UM, SEARCH FOR THE CITY MANAGER, THEY WILL GIVE US A PROCESS ON HOW TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS, CORRECT? YES, THAT IS CORRECT.
AND, AND THIS, THEY WILL, UM, MEET IN CLOSE SESSION IF YOU'D LIKE, UM, TO GIVE YOU THOSE UPDATES AS NEEDED.
UM, SO THEY, THEY'RE VERY HANDS ON MM-HMM
AND THEY HAVE WORKED, UM, WITH, UH, A LOT OF AGENCIES AND I'VE HEARD NOTHING BUT GOOD THINGS ABOUT THEM.
WE GOT EXCELLENT REFERENCES ON THEM.
AND YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES COMPANIES LIKE THAT, THEY'LL GIVE YOU A LIST OF REFERENCES.
THEY'RE ONLY GONNA LIST PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA SAY GOOD THINGS ABOUT 'EM.
BUT, UH, BUT YEAH, BUT EVERYONE THAT WE CONTACTED WAS, WAS REALLY HAD NOTHING BUT GREAT THINGS AND HOW THE RESULTS HAD.
AND THEY'VE, THEY'VE DONE SOME DIFFICULT CITIES, UH, IN RECENT YEARS.
UH, COMPTON, UH, WAS SAN BERNARDINO, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, SOME CITIES THAT REALLY HAVE A DIFFICULT TIME WITH LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
SO IT, UH, AND YET BOTH THOSE CITIES ARE ECSTATIC ABOUT WHAT THEY ENDED UP WITH.
SO IT'S, UH, UM, SO THAT, THAT PART WAS, WAS VERY GOOD AND VERY REFRESHING TO BE ABLE TO BE ABLE TO DEAL WITH, UH, FOR THE QUESTION, MR. CHAIR.
OH, OH, CALL, CALL FOR QUESTION.
THEN DO WE, WE NEED TO PUSH IN FOR YOUR MOTION AND RODRIGUEZ OKAY.
UM, MOTION AND A SECOND AND ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, SIGN NONE, PLEASE VOTE.
THAT WOULD BE FOR THE 50 K, CORRECT? YES.
AND UH, ALRIGHT, SO WITH THAT, UM, THAT WAS 11 TWO.
[11.3 Consideration of a Resolution Adopting a Budget for Fiscal Year 2025-2026]
TO 11 THREE AND THIS IS CONSIDERATION OF ADOPTING A BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 25, 26.UM, TONIGHT IS THE PROPOSED CITYWIDE ADOPTION OF THE BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2020 5, 26.
UM, HOPEFULLY WE CAN ADOPT THIS TONIGHT.
WHEN I CAME INTO THE ROOM EARLIER TONIGHT, I SAW THE CAMERAS FROM FOX NEWS AND I WAS ALL EXCITED 'CAUSE I THOUGHT THEY WERE HERE FOR MY PRESENTATION, BUT, BUT I SEE ONCE AGAIN, MARTIN GOT ALL THE GLORY.
WELL, ACTUALLY THEY WERE HERE FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, BUT IT'S PAST THEIR BEDTIME.
SO TONIGHT'S PRESENTATION IS, UM, HOPEFULLY I CAN KEEP IT A LITTLE BIT SHORTER THAN WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST.
I THINK WE'VE LOGGED ABOUT 12 TO 15 HOURS PRESENTING THIS BUDGET TO YOU.
SO WE STARTED THE PROCESS BACK ON MAY 8TH, I BELIEVE THAT WAS A THURSDAY, AND THEN AGAIN ON JUNE 4TH, WHICH WAS A WEDNESDAY NIGHT, AND THEN LAST WEEK ON THURSDAY.
SO WE REALLY DEDICATED A LOT OF TIME, UM, GOING THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS.
THERE'S A LOT OF RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE GIVEN TO US LAST WEEK, AND THEY'RE INCORPORATED IN THIS CURRENT BUDGET THAT'S PRESENTED FOR YOU TONIGHT BETWEEN MAY 8TH AND REALLY UP TO LAST WEEK, THE BUDGET HAD NOT MOVED VERY MUCH AT ALL.
AND THE, UM, REVENUES AND EXPENSES FOR THE GENERAL FUND.
SO I'M GONNA REALLY HIGHLIGHT THE ITEMS THAT HAVE CHANGED SINCE LAST WEEK.
UM, SO HERE ARE SOME OF THE BUDGET HIGHLIGHTS.
AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THE, UM, BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR WILL HAVE A $3 MILLION CALPERS UNFUNDED LIABILITY PAYMENT.
THAT THAT IS AN INCREASE FROM LAST OR THE CURRENT YEAR, UM, OR ROUGHLY AN ADDITIONAL 1.5 MILLION.
WE RECEIVED SOME INFORMATION WITHIN THE LAST WEEK THAT FROM OUR SALES SALES TAX CONSULTANT, THAT SALES TAX FOR THEIR PROJECTIONS FOR NEXT YEAR HAS ACTUALLY INCREASED DUE TO SOME INFORMATION THAT THEY HAD JUST RECENTLY RECEIVED AND DID SOME RESEARCH ON.
SO THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL $518,000,
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UM, INCREASE TO THE GENERAL FUND.AND THEN WE ALSO RECEIVED SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FROM OUR SOLID WASTE HAULER, UM, FOR FRANCHISE FEES.
AND THERE'S AN ESCALATOR WITHIN THEIR ESTIMATES, AND THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL TO ON $321,000 OF INCREASED REVENUES TO THE GENERAL FUND.
THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR YOU TONIGHT, UM, SHOWS AN INCREASE IN OPERATING EXPENDITURES OF 1.9 MILLION, UM, IN THE GENERAL FUND.
THIS IS BASED OFF OF RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE PROVIDED TO, TO STAFF LAST WEEK.
THAT INCLUDES REALLY TWO MAJOR ITEMS. ONE IS $1 MILLION EARMARKED FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR THE CITY OR REVITALIZATION PROJECT, AS WELL AS THE INCREASE IN 12, UM, 0.5 FTES TO THE CITYWIDE.
UM, NOT ALL THOSE ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE GENERAL FUND, BUT IS A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT TO THE GENERAL FUND.
AND LOOKING AT THE GENERAL FUND SPECIFICALLY, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'LL SEE IS THE PROPOSED USE OF, UM, 8.3 MILLION OF UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE, WHICH ALSO INCLUDES, UM, AN ADDITIONAL 1 MILLION USE OF THE ECONOMIC CONTINGENCY RESERVE.
THIS IS KIND OF AN OVERVIEW OF THE GENERAL FUND.
THE PIE CHART TO THE LEFT IS, UM, REVENUES.
AS YOU CAN SEE, SALES TAX AND PROPERTY TAXES ARE OUR LARGEST REVENUE SOURCES REPRESENT 79% OF OUR TOTAL GENERAL FUND REVENUES.
UM, PIE CHART ON THE RIGHT, IT REPRESENTS OUR EXPENDITURES FOR THE GENERAL FUND.
UH, WAGES AND BENEFITS REPRESENTS TWO THIRDS OF OUR TOTAL GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES.
THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR YOU TONIGHT, TOTAL GENERAL FUND REVENUES IS 73.7 MILLION VERSUS OUR EXPENDITURES OF 82.9 MILLION.
AND THAT WILL GIVE US A DEFICIT OF ROUGHLY THREE, EXCUSE ME, 9.3 MILLION FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
A LITTLE MORE DETAIL DRAWING DOWN ON THE REVENUES FOR THE GENERAL FUND.
THE PROPOSED BUDGET IS IN THE GREEN COLUMN.
AND TO THE LEFT OF THAT IS OUR, OUR BUDGET FOR THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.
AND TO THE FAR RIGHT REPRESENTS THE PERCENTAGE DIFFERENCE OF THE INCREASE FROM THE CURRENT YEAR BUDGET TO NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET.
AND SO PROPERTY TAXES INCREASING 6%, SALES TAXES INCREASING 4%.
AND WITH THE NEW INFORMATION RELATING TO FRANCHISE FEES, OUR FRANCHISE FEES ARE EXPECTED TO INCREASE 11% FOR NEXT YEAR OVERALL WITH A TOTAL INCREASE IN THE GENERAL FUND OF 4% OF REVENUES.
LOOKING AT OUR EXPENDITURES BY MAJOR CATEGORIES, WAGES, BENEFITS, OPERATING MAINTENANCE, CAPITAL, UM, INTERNAL SERVICE FUND TRANSFER OUT, UM, OUR TOTAL PROPOSED BUDGET FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR WILL BE INCREASING 11% COMPARED TO THE CURRENT BUDGET OF THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.
AND THAT WILL GIVE US A TOTAL DEFICIT FOR NEXT YEAR OF 9.3 MILLION.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVEN'T REALLY TALKED VERY MUCH ABOUT IS THE SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS.
WE HAVE A TOTAL WITHIN THE BUDGET, WITHIN YOUR BUDGET BINDER, A TOTAL OF 33 SEPARATE, UM, SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS.
THESE ARE USUALLY, A LOT OF 'EM ARE GRANTS.
UM, SOME OF THE ITEMS I HAVE HERE LISTED, THE TOP THREE ARE HEAVILY SUBSIDIZED BY THE GENERAL FUND.
THAT WOULD BE THE LIBRARY FUND PART, MAINTENANCE AND NUTRITION.
THE SEWER FUND IS A TOTALLY INDEPENDENT, AS YOU KNOW.
UH, WE ADOPTED THE RATES FOR TONIGHT FOR NEXT YEAR, THE HUD GRANT THAT REPRESENTS THE, UM, THREE GRANTS THAT WE HAVE.
IT'S CBG, THE, UM, HOME AS WELL AS SECTION EIGHT, UM, FUNDING.
AND THEN WE HAVE SEVEN INTERNAL SERVICE FUNDS, UH, THAT REPRESENTS BUILDING MAINTENANCE AND VEHICLE REPLACEMENT AS WELL AS VEHICLE MAINTENANCE.
AND THEN LASTLY, THERE'S THAT LAST CATEGORY IS OTHER SPECIAL REVENUE.
IT'S A TOTAL OF ABOUT 19 SMALL, UM, DIFFERENT GRANTS THAT WE HAVE THAT COULD BE, UM, VARIOUS POLICE GRANTS AS WELL AS PUBLIC WORK GRANTS THAT WE HAVEN'T JUST KIND OF ALL MINGLED TOGETHER.
BUT OVERALL, AS YOU CAN SEE, THAT HAS A BEGINNING FUND BALANCE OF ALL THOSE SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS.
LOW OVER 109 MILLION REVENUES COMING IN AT 74 MILLION AND EXPENDITURES ALMOST ABOUT 74 MILLION.
AND THAT WILL LEAVE ALL TOTAL SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS FOR NEXT YEAR FUND ENDING FUND BALANCE, ROUGHLY, UM, $109 MILLION.
LOOKING AT THE GENERAL FUND ITSELF, UM, BASED ON THE DIRECTION IT WAS GIVEN TO STAFF LAST THURSDAY, OUR ECONOMIC CONTINGENCY RESERVE STARTING AT THE BEGINNING OF PHYSICAL YEAR, UH, WILL BE 12.8 MILLION WITH THE USE OF $1 MILLION FOR THE CITY REVITALIZATION PROJECT.
THAT WILL GIVE US AN ENDING BALANCE BY THE END OF THE YEAR OF 11.8 MILLION.
AND THAT WILL BE, UM, BELOW OUR CURRENT GENERAL FUND OPERATION OR OUR, OUR 20% POLICY FOR OUR RESERVE.
AND THEN, UM, LOOKING AT OUR UNASSIGNED, THE,
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BASED ON THE, OUR PROJECTION FOR THE 2024 AUDIT, WHICH WILL WE HOPE TO BRING BACK TO COUNCIL SOMETIME IN AUGUST, THAT, UM, STARTING BALANCE IS 24.5 MILLION WITH THE PROJECTION DEFICIT, UM, FOR THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.SUBTRACTING FROM THAT NUMBER ROUGHLY 3.4 MILLION, AND THEN THE PROJECTED DEFICIT FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR, ROUGHLY 8.3 MILLION.
AND THEN IF WE TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE 10% RESERVE POLICY, LEAVING A BALANCE IN THE ACCOUNT OF 8.1 MILLION, THAT WOULD BE AT THE END OF NEXT FISCAL YEAR, ROUGHLY EIGHT POINT, EXCUSE ME, 4.8 MILLION OF UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE, THAT IT WAS ABOVE THE POLICY LEVEL.
SO THOSE FUNDS COULD BE USED FOR TO REPLENISH OTHER RESERVES AS POSSIBLE.
AND THEN LASTLY, STAFF RECOMMENDS THE ADOPTION, ADOPTING THE RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF NATIONAL CITY APPROVING THE PROPOSED FISCAL YEAR 2020 5 26 OPERATING CAPITAL BUDGET, UM, TOTAL CITYWIDE APPROPRIATIONS OF 156,890,491 $94, ALONG WITH A 1 MILLION, UM, USE OF THE ECONOMIC CONTINGENCY RESERVE FOR THE CITY REVITALIZATION PROJECT.
AND THAT REALLY CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, SO WE'RE CLEAR ON PAGE SEVEN WHEN YOU WENT DOWN THROUGH THE DIFFERENT, UH, DIFFERENT ITEMS, THERE IS A ASTERISK AT THE BOTTOM.
AND SO, UM, THAT ASTERISK, WHAT'S OUR CURRENT PROPOSED DEFICIT FOR NEXT YEAR WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND? THE USE OF THE UNASSIGNED WOULD BE 8.3 MILLION, AND THAT DOES NOT TAKE INTO ANY ACCOUNT OF ANY PROPOSED, UM, LABOR NEGOTIATION COSTS FOR GOING FORWARD FOR NEXT YEAR.
SO THAT IS NOT ANY POTENTIAL LABOR COST ASSOCIATED WITH ANY TYPE OF NEGOTIATION, HAS NOT BEEN INCORPORATED IN THE EXISTING BUDGET THAT'S FOR YOU TONIGHT.
AND ALL OF OUR LABOR CONTRACTS ARE UPWIND.
UM, AT JUNE 31ST OR JUNE 30TH, EXCUSE ME.
SO THAT, THAT'S GONNA BE HAPPENING.
JUST LONG, LONG TO REALIZE THAT THAT'S NOT COUNTED IN HERE YET.
UH, ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, ANYTHING ELSE? YOU OKAY? I SAW YOUR LIGHT GO ON THERE, SO I YEAH, NO, UH, NO COMMENTS.
MAY I SIMPLY WANTED TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT, UM, UH, THE BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 25, 26.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
UH, LEMME JUST SAY THERE WAS, WE MET LAST WEEK AND WE WENT THROUGH, UM, ADDITIONS TO THE BUDGET AND DEALT WITH, WE DEALT WITH THOSE AND, UH, CAME TO SOME COMPROMISES AND EVERYTHING ELSE TO WORK ON SOME OF THOSE AREAS.
BUT I JUST HAVE TO SAY IN THE LONG RUN, AS WE LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS, THIS IS NOT SUSTAINABLE.
AND SO JUST AS MARKETS CORRECT, WHETHER IF IT'S THE HOUSING MARKET OR THE STOCK MARKET GO THROUGH CORRECTIONS, UH, SOONER OR LATER AND LOOKS LIKE SOONER, THERE'S GONNA HAVE TO BE A CORRECTION, UH, TO BE ABLE TO, TO MAKE THIS SUSTAINABLE.
UH, YOU GONNA SAY THAT YOU CAN ONLY SPEND MORE MONEY THAN YOU'RE BRINGING IN FOR SO LONG WITH THAT, UH, DID YOU HAVE SPEAKERS? OH, WAIT A MINUTE.
UM, EDWARD NETTO TO BE FOLLOWED BY THE WHOLE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE
I CAME FORTH AND I SAID, THIS IS GONNA HAPPEN.
I STARTED OFF WITH A $1 MILLION BUDGET DEFICIT LAST YEAR.
I CAME FORTH AND WE HAD ANOTHER $7 MILLION INITIALLY BUDGET DEFICIT.
THE FIRST YEAR I SAID THIS, I CAN'T HELP IT.
RODRIGUEZ TOLD ME I WAS DISRESPECTFUL AT A, AT A MEETING WHERE HE WAS PROFESSING THAT HE HAD A GREAT BUDGET, ALTHOUGH IT SHOWED A DEFICIT OF REVENUES OF, UH, EXPENDITURES ABOVE REVENUE.
YOU KNOW, DEEPEST TOLD ME, UH, THAT I WAS LYING, YOU KNOW, AND AT THAT POINT, I, I POINTED IT OUT THAT SHE HAD TO LOOK AT THE, AT THE PROVE BUDGET.
WHEN DID WE TALK, LET ME FINISH.
WHEN DID I SAY YOU'RE LYING? I DON'T LIKE THAT YOU TOLD ME THAT.
SHE TOLD ME, AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN.
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ON, SHE TOLD ME THAT I'VE, I SIT DOWN WITH YOU, SIR.I'VE SAID, I'VE SAID, I'VE SIT DOWN WITH YOU, SIR.
I SAID IT SEVERAL TIMES AND YOU, THIS IS NOT USED.
YOU DO NOT ACCUSE ME THAT I ACCUSE YOU OF LYING MR. NETTO.
I WILL NOT ACCEPT THAT YOU HAVE COLE.
COULD GIVE ME SOME MORE TIME BASED ON THAT TIME TO LIE.
NOW WE'RE HERE, WE'RE SHOWING A 4.8 MILLION BUDGET DEFICIT TODAY.
WE SAID THIS IS A HEALTHY, THIS IS A HEALTHY RESERVE.
THERE'S NOTHING HEALTHY ABOUT A, A $4.8 MILLION DEFICIT.
THIS WAS A TRAINED WRECK THAT WAS JUST SLOWLY HAPPENING AND YOU GUYS HAVEN'T RE RESPONDED AND REFLECTED THAT THIS IS SOMETHING IN THE SHOULDERS OF BAD DECISIONS.
AND THERE'S, AND THIS IS A LEGACY THAT YOU GUYS HAVE TO OWN UP TO.
UM, NEXT WE HAVE THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE TO BE FOLLOWED BY AVITA.
ARE WE ALL GONNA COME UP IN MASS? WE'RE COMING IN MASS, EXACTLY.
THIS IS HOW WE ROLL, RIGHT? OKAY.
WE'LL DO A LITTLE ROUND ROBIN.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR MORRISON AND DISTINGUISHED CITY COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS KAREN ZAKAR MCMANUS, INTERIM EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE NATIONAL CITY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
JOINING ME TONIGHT IS OUR CHAMBER ACE TEAM, HOVITA, ANO, SHERRY GOGI, AND JOANNE FIELDS.
WE ARE HERE TONIGHT TO SHARE SOME EXCITING NEWS ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY COLLABORATION AND TO THAT WILL GENERATE TOURISM REVENUE AND SHARE OUR INCREDIBLE CITY WITH THE OUTSIDE WORLD.
I'LL GIVE THE FLOOR TO MY TEAM TO EXPLAIN MORE ABOUT THIS POTENTIAL INVESTMENT AND PARTNERSHIP.
GOOD EVENING MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, STAFF AND RESIDENTS.
MY NAME IS SHERRY GORGE AND I'M A BOARD DIRECTOR OF THE NATIONAL CITY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
I AM EXCITED TO BE A MEMBER OF THE ACE TEAM, WHICH STANDS FOR ACTIVATING CULTURAL ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES.
OUR VETERANS MILITARY FAMILIES ARE A BIG PART OF OUR NATIONAL CITY CULTURE.
WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO DO EVENTS WITH THEM.
WE FINISHED ONE LAST YEAR, THE MAY TIME, SALUTE TO THE VETERANS, UM, EVENT IN NOVEMBER, WHICH WAS A HUGE SUCCESS, MORE THAN WE DREAMED IT WAS GONNA BE.
WE CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THIS YEAR'S WE ASKING YOU TO INVEST IN OUR SUCCESS WITH OUR, OUR MILITARY FAMILIES.
CAN I HAVE MY TWO MINUTES? YES.
CITY COUNCIL MEMBER AND STAFF.
MY NAME IS HOVITA ANO AND I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED LOW RIDER COALITION.
I'M HERE TONIGHT TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE TEASE OF A PROPOSAL THAT'S BEING CREATED WITH THE NATIONAL CITY CHAMBER, THE FILIPINO COMMUNITY, THE BLACK AND BROWN COMMUNITY, LOCAL BUSINESSES AND RESIDENTS OF NATIONAL CITY.
I'M EXCITED TO COLLABORATE WITH ACE ACTIVATING CULTURAL ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES.
ACE ISN'T JUST ABOUT PUTTING ON A SHOW, IT'S ABOUT BRINGING PEOPLE TOGETHER.
OUR TEAM, ACE IS COMMITTED, IS A COMMITTED GROUP WITH DEEP EXPERIENCE IN ORGANIZING MEANINGFUL COMMUNITY EVENTS THAT UNITE FAMILIES AND VISITORS FROM ALL OVER SAN DIEGO COUNTY AND EVEN ACROSS THE STATE.
THESE EVENTS CREATE SPACES WHERE CULTURE, CONNECTION AND BUSINESSES THRIVE.
WE'RE ASKING THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY TO INVEST IN SOMETHING POWERFUL.
ITS OWN CULTURAL AND COMMUNITY.
ALL THESE CULTURES TOGETHER THROUGHOUT SAN DIEGO.
AND BY INVESTING IN THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY, YOUR CITY, IT WILL SUPPORT ECONOMIC GROWTH AND LOCAL PRIDE CULTURAL EVENTS, AND WILL STRENGTHEN NEIGHBORHOODS TIES THAT WILL ATTRACT FOOT TRAFFIC, DRAW TOURISM, AND INCREASE LOCAL SPENDING.
REMEMBER THE CRUISES IN 2022
MCDONALD'S EVEN RAN OUT OF FRENCH FRIES THAT NIGHT,
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BUT THAT EVENT WAS MORE THAN JUST A CELEBRATION.IT BROUGHT ECONOMIC STIMULANTS TO THE BUSINESSES.
CULTURAL EVENTS WILL PROVIDE REAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR SMALL BUSINESSES, BRING NEW CUSTOMERS TO NATIONAL CITY, AND GENERATE LASTING VISIBILITY FOR THE COMMUNITY.
THIS WORK WILL BE DONE TOGETHER WITH THE NATIONAL CITY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE BECAUSE WHEN WE COLLABORATE, WE BUILD STRONGER, WE GET MORE CONNECTED, AND WE'RE MORE ECONOMICALLY VIBRANT COMMUNITIES.
SO LET'S INVEST IN WHAT MAKES NATIONAL CITY UNIQUE BY INCLUDING THE ACE INITIATIVE IN THE CITY'S BUDGET.
GOT MISS JOANNE, THE LAST HITTER.
MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL AND STAFF AND RESIDENTS.
I'M THE GOVERNMENT AND PUBLIC RELATIONS DIRECTOR OF THE ASIAN PACIFIC ISLANDER INITIATIVE.
AND I AM VERY PROUD TO BE A PART OF A COLLABORATIVE OF EXPERIENCED ORGANIZERS WHO ARE VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT ACE ACTIVATING ECONOMIC OR CULTURAL ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES.
WE HAVE OVER 100 YEARS EXPERIENCE.
COLLECTIVELY, WE, WE WANT TO
WE KNOW THAT NATIONAL CITY IS NESTLED BETWEEN THE TWO LARGEST CITIES IN THE COUNTY.
THEY DO NOT NEED TO BYPASS OUR CITY, NATIONAL CITY.
WE ALSO KNOW THAT EIGHTH STREET IS THE GATEWAY TO THE LARGEST US NAVY FLEET ON THE WEST COAST.
AND WE HAVE A LOT OF NEW MILITARY FAMILIES THAT MAY NOT KNOW WHERE THEIR EATERIES ARE, THE SERVICES OR WHAT ARE THEY, UH, ABLE TO DO, AND THAT IS AFFORDABLE FOR A NEW MILITARY FAMILY.
WE INVITE YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL TO INVEST IN ACE SO THAT WE CAN GENERATE REVENUE IN NATIONAL CITY.
WE WILL INCLUDE, WE WILL HAVE METRICS IN PLACE TO ENSURE THERE IS AN INCREASE IN REVENUE TOURISM AND GROWING THE IDENTITY OF NATIONAL CITY.
WE CAN HOST MONTHLY EVENTS THAT CAN INCLUDE A SERIES OF NIGHT MARKETS, BRING BACK HISTORICAL COMMUNITY EVENTS LIKE THE MAY TIME REVIEW THE UNITED LOW RIDER COALITION, UM, CRUISES.
I ALSO, UM, HAVE A PACKET FOR YOU FOR A VISUAL SO THAT WE CAN CREATE AN INITIATIVE FOR A DOWNTOWN NATIONAL CITY NEIGHBORHOOD BLOCK PARTY WHERE WE CLOSED DOWN EIGHTH STREET FROM NATIONAL CITY BOULEVARD TO D AVENUE.
YOU WILL SEE JUST A, A VISUAL OF WHERE WE HAVE INTERSECTIONS, WHERE WE CAN INCLUDE STAGES.
SO WE CAN INVITE OUR SWEETWATER HIGH SCHOOL MARIACHI BAND, PAKA PERFORMING ARTS COMPANY, AFRICAN, UM, DRUMMERS AND STILT WALKERS POP UP SMALL BUSINESSES AND COMMUNITY BASED OR ORGANIZATIONS, US NAVY MARCHING BAND, RUBY, A BARRA PENAI RAPPER AND ADVOCATE, AND OF COURSE OUR BELOVED UNITED LOW WRITERS COALITION.
WE ARE ACE AND WE HOPE THAT YOU WOULD REALLY CONSIDER INVESTING THAT WITH SOMETHING THAT HAS A RETURN ON INVESTMENT, NOT YEARS FROM TODAY, BUT ALMOST IMMEDIATELY, IF NOT IMMEDIATELY, BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE THE RECEIPTS TO PROVE IT.
AND IN CLOSING AND IN CLOSING, THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE, AND I WILL REMIND YOU, IT WAS 1145 WHEN I WAS CALLED UP.
I TOLD YOU THE CHAMBER WAS BACK AND WE ARE HERE TO SERVICE OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY.
AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU'VE DONE FOR US AS WELL.
YES, I I REALLY WANT TO THANK ALL, ESPECIALLY THAT PRESENTATION.
I THANK ALL OF THE SPEAKERS, UH, MR. NIETO, I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
I DO TAKE THE DEFICIT REALLY SERIOUSLY.
SO YOU BROUGHT UP A COUPLE OF YEARS HOW THERE WAS, UM, A PROJECTED DEFICIT FOR THE FUTURE.
SO WE'RE AT THAT POINT NOW, BUT I WILL SAY, LOOKING BACK AT THE PAST TWO YEARS AGO, THE ACTUAL SHOW THAT EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS A PROJECTED DEFICIT FOR THAT YEAR, WE DID, DID COME OUT ON TOP.
NOW WE HAVE DIFFERENT CHALLENGES THIS YEAR AND I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THOSE CHALLENGES.
SO TO JUST SO THAT EVERYONE IN THE PUBLIC KNOWS THAT'S WHAT THIS MOVEMENT AND PART OF WHAT I'M SUPPORTING AND I'M PUSHING THIS EFFORT THAT IS JUST IN THE BRAINSTORM.
YOU, YOU HEARD IT IS JUST IN THE INITIAL, UH, UH, DISCUSSIONS CONCEPTUAL PHASE IS HOW DO WE GET SHORT
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TERM REVENUE? HOW DO WE GENERATE, UM, ECONOMIC STIMULUS AND ACTIVITY RIGHT NOW? SO FOR THIS UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR.AND SO I, THIS IS IN THE EARLY STAGES, BUT I THINK THIS IS THE RIGHT PATH WITH OUR CHAMBER.
OUR CHAMBER HAS A HISTORY OF DOING THIS.
UM, AND THERE'S BEEN UPS AND DOWNS WITH THE CHAMBER AS AN ORGANIZATION, BUT I REALLY WANNA GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO, TO MS. KAREN MCMANUS FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS DOING THIS AND DOING THIS UNPAID, BY THE WAY, AND, AND FOR, FOR FREE.
SO LET'S GIVE A BROWN FOSTER HER TO DOING THAT.
UM, YOU'VE REALLY BEEN ABLE TO TURN THE CHAMBER AROUND.
AND WHAT I LIKE IS THIS IS JUST, AND HOPEFULLY YOU GUYS CONTINUE TO GROW AS A COALITION, BUT, UH, YOU GUYS RECOGNIZE THAT NATIONAL CITY, WE MAY NOT HAVE ALL THE MONEY, BUT WE, I DO BELIEVE WE HAVE ALL THE RESOURCES HERE THAT WE NEED IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND SO IN TERMS OF OUR PEOPLE, OUR TALENT, UM, OUR, THE, THE LAND THAT WE HAVE, THE CITY HAS, UH, A LOT OF DIFFERENT FACILITIES THAT, THAT WE COULD USE.
SO WE BROUGHT UP DOING, UH, FESTIVALS OF OPENING, UH, LAS PALMAS POOL, WHICH IS IN MY DISTRICT, MAYBE OPENING THAT UP FOR EVENTS.
I LOVE THE IDEA OF A NIGHT MARKET.
AND, UH, I THINK THAT A POSSIBLE LOCATION FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, IF WE WERE TO DO IT WEEKLY, COULD BE IN SOME OF OUR VACANT, UNDEVELOPED LAND.
THERE'S SOME IN COUNCIL MEMBER MOLINA'S DISTRICT, THE TWO PARCELS RIGHT BY THE RAIL DEPOT, UM, UH, THE, WITH THE LOW RIDER COMMUNITY.
UM, YOU GUYS HAVE COME SUCH A LONG WAY AND WE'VE SEEN WHAT ACTIVITY THAT, UH, BRINGING THAT CULTURE AND THAT ARCH DOES, UH, FOR, UM, IN TERMS OF, UH, THE LOW RIDER CULTURE.
SO, UH, A COUPLE YEARS AGO, YOU BROUGHT UP IN 2022 WHEN WE HAD THAT CRUISE AND THERE WAS A STUDY THAT, UH, ONE OF OUR STAFFERS DID, UM, ABOUT ECONOMIC GENERATION AND, AND IT, AND IT DID PROVE THERE WAS AN INCREASE, UH, UH, FOR THAT, THAT PERIOD OF TIME WHEN THERE WAS, UH, THAT THAT CRU IN THAT EVENT, IT WAS A BIG INCREASE IN, IN THE BUSINESS, UH, SALES, TAX REVENUE AND UM, AND, AND PEOPLE COMING TO NATIONAL CITY.
SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT I'D LOVE TO SEE US HIGHLIGHT.
OUR ART, OUR MUSIC, OUR CULTURE.
UH, WE'RE WORKING ON A MURAL PROJECT THAT WE'RE GONNA BE UNVEILING TO, AND THAT'S REALLY BIG IS, UM, MURAL ART IN, IN NATIONAL CITY WORKING WITH VISION CULTURE FOUNDATION.
SO I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS AND I THINK WE SHOULD REALLY BE BOLD AND PUSH THIS FORWARD.
THAT'S WHAT OUR ECONOMIC CONTINGENCY RESERVE IS FOR IT'S FOR MOMENTS LIKE THIS, UH, TIMES OF UNCERTAINTY.
AND THERE HAS BEEN, UH, PROJECTED, UM, IF YOU, THERE WAS ANOTHER STUDY THAT CAME OUT TODAY THAT THE SALES TAX, UM, GENERATION, UH, UH, UH, NATIONWIDE AND CAR SALES IS DIPPING.
SO BECAUSE WE ARE, UH, WE HAVE A MILE OF CARS AND THAT'S SO MUCH OF WHERE OUR, OUR, UM, OUR SALES TAX INCOME COMES FROM.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS.
AND I THINK WE COULD DO IT THROUGH AUTOMOTIVE, AUTOMOTIVE, UH, HERITAGE FESTIVAL.
UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, HAVING CONCERTS, SO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, JOANNE WAS TALKING ABOUT, UH, HAVING, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT FOR SWEETWATER, WHICH THAT ALSO IS ITS OWN IDENTITY.
SWEETWATER HIGH SCHOOL, UH, IN OUR ALUMNI NETWORK, HAVING A GRADUATION CREWS FOR THE SENIORS OF CLASS OF 2026.
THERE'S ALL THESE, I THINK, UH, REALLY UNIQUE, INNOVATIVE IDEAS THAT ARE PART OF OUR HEART AND AND SOUL OF WHO NATIONAL CITY IS.
SO YES, WE HAVE SOME CHALLENGING, UH, BUDGET TIMES AHEAD, BUT I THINK WE HAVE ALL THE RESOURCES IN HOUSE AND IF WE'RE CREATIVE AND WORK TOGETHER, THAT, THAT WE, THAT WE CAN SOLVE THIS.
AND, AND YES, I'M, I'M STILL INTERESTED IN LOOKING AT FURTHER, UM, SAVINGS OR FURTHER CUTS.
SO EVEN THOUGH WE'RE ADOPTING THIS BUDGET TONIGHT, IT'S A LIVING DOCUMENT AND WE STILL HAVE LABOR NEGOTIATIONS.
SO, UH, WE STILL HAVE OUR MID-YEAR REPORT.
SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO COME BACK AND MAKE A ADJUSTMENTS AND, AND I HAVE FAITH AND CONFIDENCE IN ALL MY, UH, COLLEAGUES, EVEN THOUGH WE MIGHT DISAGREE WITH SOME APPROACHES, WE ALL, NONE OF US WANT TO SEE A DEFICIT.
WE ALL WANNA BE FINANCIALLY SUSTAINABLE AND I THINK PUTTING OUR HEADS TOGETHER, WE CAN MAKE IT WORK.
MEMBER RODRIGUEZ, THANK YOU, MS. MAYOR.
UH, THANK YOU TO STAFF AND FOR THE ENTIRE COUNCIL ON WORKING ON THIS BUDGET.
IT'S BEEN A LONG, UH, FEW MONTHS THAT WE'VE BEEN REALLY HONING IN ON THIS, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.
CAN WE PULL UP THE SLIDE ON THE RESERVES? AND, AND THE ONLY REASON I DO THIS, 'CAUSE WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS, UH, AT LENGTH OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS TO SAY THE LEAST.
UH, BUT THAT WAS NOT THE PAGE.
THERE WAS ANOTHER THAT HAD ALL OF THE FUND, UH, ALL OF THE RESERVE BALANCES.
I DON'T HAVE THAT IN THIS PRESENTATION.
WE, WE DIDN'T HAVE YOU DON'T HAVE, YOU DON'T HAVE IT OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD.
DO YOU REMEMBER, 'CAUSE WE DISCUSSED THIS DURING THE LAST LAST WEEK'S WORKSHOP, WHAT WAS THE PERCENTAGE OF THE TOTAL RESERVE BALANCE? OKAY, GIMME A SECOND.
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SIX ON IT.SO I KNOW WE ALL HAVE A LOT OF ENERGY TO BE TALKING ABOUT
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF FUND RESERVES.
SO, UH, WE ADDED ALL THOSE UPS, THE RESERVE REQUIREMENTS, AND THOSE ARE ALL THE DIFFERENT RESERVES WE HAVE FOR THE CITY.
UM, WHAT WAS THE CURRENT BALANCE OF ALL THE RESERVE TOTALS? DO WE REMEMBER THOSE NUMBERS? YEAH, THAT'S WHAT'S UP HERE RIGHT NOW.
BUT I THINK THEY TOTALED UP TO 51 MILLION, IS THAT RIGHT? YEAH, ROUGHLY, YES.
AND WHAT PERCENTAGE WAS THAT OF OUR TOTAL GENERAL FUND? UM, ONE SECOND.
WAS IT THE NEXT PAGE? OH, THERE IT IS.
WELL, NO, UM, I HADN'T SEEN THAT PAGE.
SO, SO THAT INCLUDES EVERYTHING IT'S MISSING FOR THE UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE.
SO THE ONE THAT YOU WERE THINKING OF INCLUDED THE 24 MILLION IN THE UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE AS WELL.
SO THAT ONE DOES NOT INCLUDE THE UNASSIGNED GENERAL FUND BALANCE.
CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE OTHER, BECAUSE I THINK IT GIVES US A MORE HOLISTIC PICTURE OF ALL OF OUR RESERVE ACCOUNTS.
SO IF, IF, IF I'M LOOKING AT MY NOTES FROM LAST WEEK CORRECTLY, THERE WAS $51 MILLION IN CURRENT BALANCE IN RESERVES.
AND WHAT PERCENTAGE WAS THAT OF OUR TOTAL GENERAL FUND? GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES, RIGHT.
SORRY, I'M HAVING YOU MAKE YOU DO MATH AGAIN.
I I REMEMBER THAT ON MY NOTES.
AND, AND OUR TARGETED AMOUNTS, UM, PER THE POLICY, THE RESERVE POLICIES ADDED UP, I HAVE IN MY NOTES IT'S, UH, ROUGHLY 50%.
AND THAT EQUALS ABOUT 41 MILLION.
SO I, I DO THINK THAT, UM, THIS SLIDE IS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE FISCALLY, I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND WITH SOME OF OUR COMMUNITY'S CONCERN THAT WE ARE CONSTANTLY, UH, MAYBE INVESTING IN OUR SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE A LITTLE MORE YEAR TO YEAR.
IT IS, IT IS A HEALTHY AMOUNT OF RESERVES THAT WE HAVE COLLECTIVELY.
AND THAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE BECAUSE I THINK A LOT OF OTHER CITIES MAY NOT BE IN THE SAME POSITION.
WE DO READ ABOUT OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE A MUCH LOWER PERCENTAGE AND ARE STRUGGLING TO MAKE ENDS MEET.
THEY MAY BE LARGER CITIES, BUT THE RESERVE BALANCE IS MUCH LOWER THAN WHAT WE HAVE, WHICH IS A TOTAL OF 63%.
SO, UM, IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT WE SHOULDN'T BE PRUDENT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS YEAR'S BUDGET WITH A TOTAL FUND EXPENDITURES OF $83 MILLION, UM, WE ARE INVESTING A MILLION DOLLARS INTO THE, FROM THE ECONOMIC CONTINGENCY RESERVE FUND INTO THIS RIGHT REVITALIZATION PROJECT, WHICH IS BEING VERY PROACTIVE WHEN IT COMES TO DEVELOPMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY.
SOMETHING WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO DO.
UM, WE HAVE A RESERVE BALANCE, HEALTHY AMOUNT OF 63%, UH, THAT'S $51 MILLION, UH, WITH OUR GOAL AND RESERVES OF 50%, WHICH IS STILL VERY HEALTHY AT 41 MILLION.
SO WE MUST FIND A BALANCE BETWEEN PROVIDING THE BEST SERVICES FOR OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE RIGHTFULLY DESERVE, AND SUPPORTING OUR CITY WORKERS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE OFFER THOSE SERVICES.
SO AS AN EXAMPLE OF THOSE, UH, STAFFING THAT WE, THAT WE HAVE DONE OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, EXPANDING A FOUR PERSON FIRE CREW IN ONE OF OUR ENGINES, WHICH IS CRITICAL TO PROVIDE BETTER SERVICES FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
THE TWO MORE SUPERVISOR POSITIONS FOR THE REC CENTER, UM, UM, UH, COMMUNITY, UH, IN ORDER TO PROVIDE EVENTS AND, UM, SERVICES FOR OUR COMMUNITY IS CRITICAL.
THREE ADDITIONAL CUSTODIANS FOR OUR CITY BUILDING, BUILDING TRADE SPECIALISTS, COMMUNITY RESOURCE OFFICERS, DISPATCHER.
I MEAN, THE LIST GOES ON AND ON.
AND THESE ARE IMPORTANT INVESTMENTS FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
SO I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO STRIKE A BALANCE BETWEEN PROVIDING THE BEST SERVICES NEEDED FOR THE COMMUNITY, HAVING THE ABILITY TO GROW, AND ALSO BEING PRUDENT WITH OUR FINANCES.
SO I WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT THIS DIRECTION.
I KNOW AND UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE COMMUNITY'S CONCERN, BUT I ALSO THINK WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD AND WE NEED TO PROACTIVELY INVEST.
WE CAN'T JUST SIT AROUND AND WAIT FOR THE PRIVATE MARKET TO INVEST IN NATIONAL CITY.
WE NEED TO BE PROACTIVE AND UTILIZE SOME OF OUR RESERVES AND ACTUALLY BRING IN REVENUES AND BRING IN, UM, PROJECTS FOR OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE DESERVE.
SO THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR MAKING THIS PROCESS,
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UH, VERY INTERESTING AND AT THE SAME TIME, SATISFYING.UH, THERE'S DIFFERENT WAYS TO LOOK AT THIS.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT THE TARGETS ARE THERE, AND THEN WHAT THE SHORTFALLS ARE, SO THE OTHER NUMBER THAT WASN'T ON THEIRS, WHICH IS, WELL, WHAT IS, IS IT THE UNASSIGNED FUND BATTLES, WHICH IS A LARGE NUMBER.
IF WE TAKE THAT AND WE FILL THE OTHER ONES, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO BY OUR POLICY, IF WE FILL THE OTHER SHORTFALLS, IT LEAVES THAT WE ACTUALLY ONLY HAVE A SURPLUS IN THE UNSIGNED FUND BALANCE OF $9 MILLION.
WHAT DID WE JUST, WHAT ARE WE JUST VOTING ON TO DO A DEFICIT FOR THIS YEAR? $9 MILLION.
AND THAT'S BEFORE ANY INCREASES IN OUR, UH, RAISES FOR OUR EMPLOYEES.
SO THAT MEANS AT THE END OF THIS YEAR, WE WILL USE ONE TIME MONEY TO COVER ONGOING EXPENSES.
THERE'LL BE NO MORE MONEY IN THIS.
THERE WON'T BE NO INCREASE IN MONEY INTO THERE FOR NEXT YEAR.
BUT THOSE EXPENSES ARE GONNA CARRY OVER INTO NEXT YEAR.
AND NOT ONLY THAT, BUT THE, UH, THAT PENSION, UH, TRUST FUND THERE IS GOING UP DRASTICALLY.
IT WENT UP FROM ONE AND A HALF UP TO WHAT IT WAS ABOUT THREE THIS TIME.
AND WITHIN THE NEXT TWO YEARS, IT'S GONNA BE GOING UP TO $7 MILLION PER YEAR.
SO THOSE ARE GONNA BE HEAVY EXTRA EXPENSES.
AND SO THAT MEANS NEXT YEAR WE WILL BE GOING INTO EACH ONE OF OUR RESERVES AND TAKEN THEM EVERY ONE OF 'EM BELOW TARGET JUST TO COVER ONGOING EXPENSES.
THAT IS WHAT NOT, IS NOT SUSTAINABLE.
UH, COUNCILS IN THE PAST HAVE WORKED HARD TO GET THOSE RESERVES UP TO WHERE WE CAN HAVE TRUST IN THEM.
IT'S EASY NOW TO JUST SAY, JUST SPEND THEM.
THE OTHER THING IS, IT'S BROUGHT UP ON THAT IN YEARS PAST, WE, WE SAY AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A DEFICIT, BUT THE END OF THE YEAR WE COME OUT, OKAY, THERE'S A REASON FOR THAT.
THE THING'S CALLED CIP, UH, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.
WE MAY HAVE A PROJECT FOR $10 MILLION TO DO, YOU KNOW, EL TOON PARK OR SOMETHING ALONG THAT LINE.
WELL, SO WE PUT IN THERE AN EXPENDITURE, $10 MILLION.
WELL, WE MAY ONLY DO THE PLANNING PART OF IT THIS YEAR, SO WE MIGHT ONLY SPEND 500,000 OF THAT.
WELL, THEN WE SAY, WELL, WE SAVED NINE AND A HALF MILLION.
NO, THAT'S, THAT EXPENDITURES GOES OVER THE NEXT YEAR.
SO WHAT WE'VE DONE THIS YEAR FOR THE FIRST YEAR, FIRST TIME WE'VE DONE IT, WE'VE TAKEN THE CIP NUMBERS OUT OF THERE.
SO THAT WHAT WE HAVE WHEN WE SAY A DEFICIT IS MUCH CLOSER TO WHAT IS AN ACTUAL DEFICIT.
WHERE BEFORE WE WERE COVERING THAT WITH THAT, WITH THE CIP MONEY, WHICH REALLY WASN'T REALISTIC.
SO NOW WE HAVE A REALISTIC NUMBER.
YOU CAN'T COMPARE THIS YEAR'S FINANCES OVERALL NUMBERS WITH WHAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST FEW YEARS BECAUSE THE CIP HAS BEEN TAKEN OUTTA THERE MAKES IT MUCH MORE REALISTIC.
SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S SOME REAL CAUTIONS AND SOME MAY NOT BE RED LIGHTS, BUT THERE'S REAL YELLOW LIGHTS WITH THESE NUMBERS AND WITH WHAT WE HAVE HAVE UP HERE, UM, BECAUSE AS I SAY, BY THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR, AND WE CAN'T TURN THAT AROUND THAT QUICK, THERE'S NO WAY THAT WE CAN TURN AROUND THOSE KIND OF REVENUES AND 'CAUSE OTHERWISE NEXT YEAR WE WILL BE DIGGING INTO EVERY ONE OF OUR RESERVES BELOW THEIR TARGET LEVELS.
AND WE, YOU CAN'T KEEP THAT UP ANYTIME AT ALL.
SO THAT'S THE REASON I PUT OUT THE CAUTIONS ON SOME OF THIS STUFF.
UM, SO WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO BE PRUDENT MM-HMM
AS, UH, POLICY MAKERS OF THIS AGENCY.
AND THIS IS, AS WE ALWAYS SAY, A LIVING DOCUMENT.
AND AS WE HAVE, UM, DIRECTED OUR, UM, CITY MANAGER AND AND DIRECTORS TO LOOK INTO AVENUES THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THAT WILL BE BRINGING US, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN THIS, THIS, UH, RESOURCES AND REVENUE, UH, GENERATING, UM, SO THEN WE CAN BALANCE OR AT LEAST, UM, OR, OR, UM, ADDRESS THOSE, UH, PROJECTED DEFICIT.
SO, UM, IT'S, IT'S ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, I'M IN, IN, IN BUSINESS.
WE HAVE TO INVEST IN OUR PEOPLE.
SO THEN, UM, WE, WE DELIVER OUR, OUR PLEDGE TO THEM.
UM, SO WE CONTINUE TO BE PRUDENT.
UM, WE'LL LOOK AT THE RESOURCES THAT WE, UM, WE HAVE ADDRESSED.
WE HAVE REVISITED WITH THE HELP OF OUR, UM, CITY MANAGER, CITY ATTORNEY AND OUR DIRECTORS
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TO CONTINUE TO BE, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN TO BE, TO CONTINUE TO TAKE CARE OF THE BUSINESS OF THE CITY AND TO TAKE CARE OF THE PEOPLE THAT TAKES CARE OF THIS, OF THIS, UH, SERVICES.SO, UM, IT, IT IS, UM, IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT, OH, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE, UH, WE'RE, UH, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THIS IS OUR DEFICIT.
WE STILL HAVE TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS.
WE WILL SEE AS WE MAKE ADJUSTMENTS IN THE MID MIDYEAR.
UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, UH, A CITY MANAGER IS ALREADY WATCHING WHAT IS GONNA BE YOU, UH, WITH THIS, WITH THIS, UM, UM, POSITIONS THAT WERE NOT FILLED.
UM, WE WERE INFORMED THAT THIS IS NOT GONNA BE FILLED RIGHT AWAY.
SO WE HAVE SOME, UM, WIGGLE ROOM AS WELL TO, UM, TO, UH, MAKE SURE THAT WE ADDRESS THIS, UM, THIS PROJECTED DEFICIT.
WE HAVE TO, UM, AGAIN, UM, NOT BE AFRAID TO LEAD.
WE CANNOT BE, WE CANNOT HAVE THAT FEAR TO LEAD THE CITY THAT WE PLEDGE TO SERVE.
UM, I, I AM VERY OPTIMISTIC THAT AS LEADERS OF THIS AGENCY, WITH THE HELP OF OUR LEADERSHIP, OUR EXECUTIVE, UM, AND OUR EXECUTIVE OF, UM, EMPLOYEES OR STAFF, THAT THEY WILL ALSO, UM, GIVE US, UM, GOOD, UM, DIRECTIONS AND GOOD, UM, ADVICE ON HOW WE CAN, WE CAN BE MORE PROACTIVE IN ADDRESSING THIS, UH, THIS NUMBERS.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S DOING BUSINESS, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND I KNOW I UNDERSTAND.
WE, WE LOOK AT THIS NUMBERS, BUT USUALLY THIS NUMBERS, YOU KNOW, AND ADJUST AND, UH, WE ARE PRUDENT IN MAKING SURE THAT WE WATCH AND WE MONITOR THEM.
UM, WE DID HAVE A MOTION ON THIS, DIDN'T WE? YES.
JUST NOT SHOWING UP, MR. CHAIRMAN.
UH, UH, JUST TO ADD THE ACTIVATING CULTURAL ECONOMIC ACTIVITIES, YOU GO GIRLS, RIGHT?
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, AS A PAST PRESIDENT OF THE CHAMBER, YOU KNOW THAT, UH, MY SUPPORT IS HERE AND, UM, WE ARE GOING TO MAKE IT HAPPEN, LIKE, RIGHT.
YEAH, WE PUT YOUR SECOND IN THERE.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT, UH, AS SOON AS IT COMES UP HERE.
UH, FOR THE RECORD, MAYOR, WE ALSO HAD A WRITTEN COMMENT FROM TED OCK.
[11.4 Discussion Regarding RS-2 Residential Zoning]
NEXT WE GO TO 11 FOUR.AND THIS IS IN RESPONSE TO A LETTER THAT WAS SENT TO FOUR OF THE FOUR MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.
AND, UH, WE WILL TURN THIS OVER TO OUR PLANNING DIRECTOR.
THANK YOU MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL STAFF, PUBLIC, MARTIN READER, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
UH, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FIVE PIECES OF, UH, OR FIVE PARCELS OF PROPERTY HERE IN THE CITY.
UM, IF I GO BACK TO 1996, WHICH WAS THE ZONING THAT WAS IN PLACE, UH, PREVIOUSLY TO THE MOST RECENT LAND USE UPDATE, COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE UPDATE, WHICH WAS 2011 2012, NOT COUNTING THE FOCUS, GENERAL PLAN UPDATE, THERE WERE TWO PROPERTIES ON SWEETWATER ROAD 2305 AND 2311, BOTH OF WHICH WERE AT THAT POINT IN THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO.
THEY WERE PREZONED AS A SINGLE FAMILY, SMALL LOT, WHICH WAS THE RS TWO ZONING AT THAT TIME.
THOSE PROPERTIES, AS YOU KNOW, WERE ANNEXED INTO THE CITY.
THAT TOOK EFFECT IN FEBRUARY OF 2020.
THERE ARE ALSO THREE PROPERTIES ON ORANGE STREET, WHICH WERE IN THE CITY AT THAT POINT, BACK IN 1996 AND CONTINUE TO BE IN THE CITY.
THE ZONING OF THOSE PROPERTIES WAS GENERAL COMMERCIAL WITH A PLAN DEVELOPMENT OVERLAY ZONE.
SO THAT WAS A, UM, BASICALLY ANY FORM OF COMMERCIAL USES WITH, WITH LIMITED, UH, RESIDENTIAL USE WITH A, A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
NOW, THAT WAS BACK WHEN WE HAD A COMBINED ZONING AND LAND USE MAP IN 2011.
THE LAND USE UPDATE, UH, RESULTED IN A GENERAL PLANNED LAND USE DESIGNATION AND A ZONING DESIGNATION FOR THE PROPERTIES.
THE, UH, THE PROPERTIES BECAME LOW TO MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL IN THE GENERAL PLAN, WHICH WAS A DENSITY OF APPROXIMATELY NINE UNITS PER ACRE.
AND THE PROPERTIES THAT WERE STILL
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IN THE COUNTY AT THAT TIME WERE ALSO PREZONED AS R RS TWO AS WELL.UH, AS WE KNOW, THERE WAS A, UH, WELL BACK IN 2017, BETWEEN 2017 AND 2020, THE OWNERS PROCESSED A, AN ANNEXATION FOR THE TWO PROPERTIES IN THE COUNTY, A GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT TO CHANGE THE LAND USE DESIGNATION AND A ZONE CHANGE APPLICATION, ALL OF WHICH WERE, UH, ULTIMATELY APPROVED.
THAT CHANGED THE ZONING OF THOSE FIVE PROPERTIES TO MXD TWO, WHICH IS MAJOR MIXED USE DISTRICT THAT HAS A RESIDENTIAL DENSITY OF 75 UNITS PER ACRE.
SO THAT LAND USE WAS ADJACENT TO OTHER MXD ZONING WHERE THE SEVEN 11, MOTEL EIGHT, ET CETERA, OR THE SUPER EIGHT MOTEL RATHER.
SO THAT WAS, UH, THAT WAS DONE IN, I THINK IT TOOK EFFECT IN 2020 AS I MENTIONED.
AND THEN, AS WE KNOW, WE HAD, UH, DEVELOPMENT APPROVALS IN 20 17, 20 22.
AND WE ALSO HAD ANOTHER APPLICATION IN 2024.
THE 27 20 17 DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL WAS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE ANNEXATION AND THE ZONE CHANGE.
AND THAT WAS A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A DRIVE THROUGH BUSINESS THAT WAS APPROVED.
THERE WAS A NEGATIVE DECLARATION THAT WAS CERTIFIED BY THE CITY COUNCIL.
ALSO, THAT PERMIT THAT CUP PERMIT DID EXPIRE IN JUNE OF 2020.
THE APPLICANT REAPPLIED FOR PRACTICALLY THE SAME PROJECT IN 2022, AND THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2023.
AGAIN, THAT ONE EXPIRED APRIL 17TH, 2024.
AND THEN THE MOST RECENT PROJECT WAS APPLIED FOR IN APRIL OR APRIL 29TH AFTER THE EXPIRATION, UH, FOR ANOTHER CEP FOR THE GAS STATION REQUEST.
WE KNOW SO WELL THAT WAS OF COURSE, WITHDRAWN AND IS NO LONGER UNDER CONSIDERATION BY THE CITY.
SO THAT IS A OVERVIEW OF THE HISTORY OF THAT PROPERTY AND THE ZONING CHANGES THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE THUS FAR.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR CLARIFICATION ON THAT MATTER.
SO THE REQUEST THERE HERE IS FOR REZONING OF THAT PROPERTY.
AND WHAT IS THE PROCEDURE FOR REZONING? UH, GENERALLY SPEAKING, THE, THE, A REZONE CAN BE REQUESTED BY THE PROPERTY OWNER, WHICH IS HOW IT USUALLY HAPPENS, WHERE THEY WILL INITIATE OR ASK FOR AN INITIATION OF THAT PROCESS.
THEY'LL GO THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL IS A PUBLIC HEARING, OF COURSE, AND, UH, IF APPROVED, THAT TAKES EFFECT AFTER 30 DAYS AFTER THE ORDINANCE.
UH, ALSO WE HAVE CHANGED ZONING IN THE PAST AS PART OF A HOLISTIC OR COMPREHENSIVE, OR EVEN IN SOME CASES FOCUSED GENERAL PLAN UPDATE TO, UM, INCREASE THE DENSITY IN SOME AREAS TO ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL HOUSING, FOR EXAMPLE, TO MEET OUR ARENA NUMBERS.
AND, UH, THAT WAS MOST RECENTLY DONE AS, UH, AS, AS RECENTLY AS LAST YEAR WITH THE FOCUS GENERAL PLAN UPDATE, WHICH DID DO SOME TARGETED REZONINGS AND INCREASED DENSITY IN CERTAIN AREAS OF TOWN, MOSTLY TRANSIT CORRIDORS.
SO THAT'S THE PROCESS OF, UH, JUST TO BOIL THAT DOWN, IS EITHER, USUALLY IT'S DONE BY THE APPLICANT, BUT THE CITY ALSO CAN DO THAT AS PART OF A, YOU KNOW, WITH JUSTIFICATION THROUGH A COMPREHENSIVE UPDATE TO THE LAND USE PLAN.
UM, CAN YOU CONFIRM WHO CURRENTLY OWNS THE PARCEL ON ORANGE STREET AND SWEETWATER ROAD? UH, I DON'T KNOW THE NAME OF, I KNOW THE NAME OF THE FAMILY THAT OWNS IT, BUT IT'S, IT'S A, UM, LLC OR SOME FORM OF COMPANY THAT OWNS ALL FIVE.
IT'S OWNED BY THE ROCA FAMILY AND THEY OWN ALL FIVE PROPERTIES.
AND HAS THE CITY RECEIVED ANY FORMAL COMMUNICATION FROM THE CURRENT PROPERTY OWNER REGARDING THIS ZONING REQUEST? I'VE HAD ONE PHONE CALL WITH THEM ASKING AND WHAT'S GOING ON AND WHAT THEIR, UH, IF THEIR, UH, IF THEIR ZONING IS GONNA BE CHANGED FROM, FROM UNDER THEM BASICALLY.
BUT WE DID TALK WITH THEM TODAY.
IS THE CURRENT PROPERTY OWNER SUPPORTIVE OF THE PROPOSED RS TWO ZONING CHANGE? NO, THEY'RE NOT.
UM, WHAT WOULD BE THE PRACTICAL IMPACT OF RESTORING RS TWO TO THIS AREA? WHAT KIND OF PROJECTS WOULD NO LONGER BE VIABLE? WELL, UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING MX D TWO, THAT'S OUR HIGHEST DENSITY MIXED USE ZONE, 75 UNITS PER ACRE, UH, IT WOULD ALLOW FOR EITHER, UM, A SINGLE USE COMMERCIAL PROJECT UP TO A DENSE OR A FLOOR AREA RATIO RATHER OF 2.5 OR TWO AND A HALF TIMES A LOT SIZE.
OR IT CAN RESULT IN A RESIDENTIAL PROJECT OF, AGAIN, UP TO 75 UNITS AN ACRE OR A MIXTURE OF THE BOTH IS WHAT WOULD BE ALLOWED NOW.
SO 75 UNITS AN ACRE, RS TWO WOULD BE NINE UNITS AN ACRE.
SO THAT WOULD BE A SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION IN THE AMOUNT OF POTENTIAL UNITS THAT COULD BE BUILT ON THAT PROPERTY SHOULD THE PROPERTY OWNER DECIDE TO DO THAT.
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THERE ARE ALSO, UM, THERE ARE IMPLICATIONS WITH DOWN ZONING THE PROPERTY THAT SIGNIFICANTLY, OBVIOUSLY THIS WENT THROUGH A PUBLIC PROCESS THEN WAS APPROVED, THE ZONING HAS CHANGED, UH, REZONING DOWN TO OR DOWN ZONING TO RS TWO WOULD, COULD BE CONSIDERED A TAKING DEPENDING ON WHO WAS DOING IT, IF IT WAS FORCED UPON THE OWNER, IF THE OWNER WANTS TO DO IT, OF COURSE THAT'S UP TO THEM.AND THERE'S ALSO SENATE BILL THREE 30 IMPLICATIONS POTENTIALLY WHERE THE CITY IS LIMITED IN ITS ABILITY TO DOWN ZONE IN, UH, IN CASES WHERE IT WOULD AFFECT THE, UH, THE AMOUNT OF HOUSING THAT COULD BE BUILT.
SO THIS, THIS WOULD CAUSE A LIMIT IN HOUSING PRODUCTION AND IT WOULD IMPACT, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT, UH, POTENTIALLY, YES.
UM, AND, AND DO WE HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THIS ZONING CHANGE, UH, MIGHT IMPACT THE VALUE OR THE MARKET POTENTIAL TO THE CURRENT OWNER? UH, WOULD BE A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN, IN VALUE GOING FROM MIXED USE, WHICH COULD HAVE A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, FUTURE GENERATING INCOME FROM COMMERCIAL USES, POTENTIALLY, UH, DOWN TO BASICALLY PROPERTY TAXES AND ANY ASSOCIATED PERMITS WITHIN THE CONSTRUCTION OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND ADUS.
UH, COULD IT MAKE IT, UM, COULD THIS LOWER THE PROPERTY'S DEVELOPMENT VALUE OR MAKE IT HARDER TO SELL OR TO FINANCE THIS PROPERTY? YES.
UM, DO, DOES STAFF CONSIDER THIS KIND OF ZONING ROLLBACK TO BE COMMON OR CONSISTENT WITH LONG-TERM PLANNING PRACTICE? UH, IT'S NOT COMMON.
I'VE, I'VE NOT SEEN THIS BEFORE IN, IN MY EXPERIENCE.
AND THAT WOULD BE COUNTER TO COMMON PRACTICE.
ARE THERE OTHER EXAMPLES IN RECENT YEARS WHERE WE HAVE REVERSED LAND, UH, LAND USE OR DENSITY DESIGNATIONS AFTER THEY HAVE BEEN UPDATED? NO, NONE THAT I CAN THINK OF.
ANYTHING HAS BEEN A, UH, AN UP ZONE IF ANYTHING, BUT NOT, NOT RETRACTED OR, OR TURNED OVER IF APPROVED.
I HAVE MORE QUESTIONS, BUT I'LL, I'LL PAUSE THERE.
UM, THE REZONING OF THIS PIECE OF PARCEL OR IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WAS DRIVEN BY A FOCUS GENERAL PLAN, CORRECT? NOT THE INDIVIDUAL PN OWNER? NO.
THE ZONING THAT'S THERE NOW, THE MXD TWO ZONING THAT WAS DONE AT THE BEHEST OF THE APPLICANT, THEY DID APPLY FOR THAT IN ORDER TO DEVELOP WITH A COMMERCIAL ZONING, OR, I'M SORRY, MIXED USE ZONING.
BEG YOUR PARDON? YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? I THINK IF YOU'RE REFERRING TO MY INITIAL, TO MY PREAMBLE THERE IN 2011 WHEN WE DID THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE UPDATE, THE ZONING WENT FROM GENERAL COMMERCIAL TO RS TWO.
BUT IN 2017, THE APPLICANT APPLIED TO CHANGE THE RS TWO ZONING TO MAJOR MIXED USE OR A POSSIBLE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT PIECE OF PARCEL, CORRECT? CORRECT.
THEY, THEY DID APPLY FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A SHOPPING CENTER WITH A DRIVE THROUGH COFFEE SHOP AT THAT TIME.
AND THAT WAS APPROVED, BUT IT'S SINCE EXPIRED.
THIS WAS THE, THE ONE PARCEL THAT, THAT TRIANGLE, YEAH, THE TRIANGLE, THE END OF TRIANGLE NOT CONNECTING THE OTHER PARCELS, JUST THE TRIANGLE.
NO, THAT WAS ALL FIVE PROPERTIES.
IN AS TAKEN AS A WHOLE, IT APPEARS AS A TRIANGLE AT, AT THE END OF, UH, THE BLOCK OF, BETWEEN OLIVE ORANGE ALONG SWEETWATER ROAD.
YOU, DO YOU HAVE MORE QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING? NO, MA'AM.
UH, I HAVE, UH, A QUESTION FOR OUR CITY ATTORNEY, UM, MR. CITY ATTORNEY, IF THE COUNSEL WERE TO APPROVE THIS, UH, ROLLBACK, WOULD THAT CREATE A LEGAL RISK OR A LIABILITY FOR EXPOSURE TO THE CITY? PARTICULARLY IF THE CURRENT PROPERTY OWNER BELIEVES THE ACTION REDUCES THE VALUE, UM, OR ALLOWABLE USE OF THEIR PROPERTY? UH, AND IF THERE IS RISK IN, UM, IF THERE IS A RISK OF A TAKINGS CLAIM OR OTHER CHALLENGE, UM, IF THIS ACTION ISN'T PART OF A BROADER PLANNING EFFORT, WHAT ARE THE LEGAL IMPLICATIONS? SO, UM, THIS IS HERE BEFORE YOU TODAY, IN RESPONSE TO THEIR REQUEST, UM, WE HAVE DONE NO ANALYSIS.
UM, WE HAVE NOT SPENT ANY TIME CONSIDERING THE RAMIFICATIONS OF THIS POTENTIAL REQUEST.
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MR. READER INDICATED, THIS IS A VERY UNUSUAL REQUEST WHEN A REQUEST FOR A REZONE OF SOMEONE ELSE'S PROPERTY.UH, WE DON'T HAVE PRECEDENT FOR THAT HERE.
UM, I THINK THERE ARE A NUMBER OF LEGAL ISSUES THAT NEED TO BE CONSIDERED, BUT I'M NOT PREPARED TONIGHT TO OPINE ON THOSE UNTIL WE GET ANY FURTHER DIRECTION FROM THE CITY COUNCIL.
AND, AND THE REQUEST IS NOT COMING FROM EITHER THE PROPERTY OWNER OR THE LEASE LEASE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY? THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.
UM, THANK MR. MAYOR, I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
UM, HOW DID THIS ITEM GET ON THE AGENDA? OKAY, THERE WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THERE WAS A LETTER THAT WAS SENT TO FOUR OF THE FOUR MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, UH, CERTIFIED MAIL, EVERYTHING ELSE AT THIS REQUEST.
SO THAT WAS BROUGHT ON THEN BY STAFF TO SAY, OKAY, HOW DO WE ADDRESS THIS? IT IS AN UNUSUAL REQUEST.
DO WE DO THAT FOR ANY INDIVIDUALS THAT SEND US REQUESTS? 'CAUSE WE DO HAVE REQUESTS THAT COME UP THROUGH OUR OFFICES AND WE DON'T NECESSARILY PUT 'EM ON AGENDAS.
BUT I GUESS, I GUESS, UM, I GUESS A MORE POINTED QUESTION, WHOSE IDEA WAS TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA? NO, I THINK THE OTHER THING WAS, BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN DESCRIBED, ACTUALLY THIS IS PART OF A LAWSUIT TO CURE ANOTHER LAWSUIT, AND SO THEN THEY PUT THIS REQUEST.
SO, I MEAN, SO THE COUNCIL NEEDS TO SAY, IS THIS SOMETHING WE WANT TO CONSIDER? SO JUST TO BE VERY, VERY KIND OF POINTED, I DON'T KNOW WHO REQUESTED THIS TO BE ON THE AGENDA.
I THINK IT'S GOOD FOR DISCUSSION, BUT JUST, I JUST WANNA GET CLARITY.
WAS IT YOU, MR. MAYOR? WAS IT ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS? WAS IT VICE MAYOR? YEAH, I, I DON'T, I JUST WANNA GET CLARITY.
WELL, AS A MATTER OF FACT, THE LETTER, I DIDN'T EVEN SEE THE LETTER UNTIL FRIDAY WHEN IT CAME IN OUR AGENDA BECAUSE THE LETTER WAS SENT TO THE FOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS AND IT WASN'T EVEN SENT TO ME.
SO, OKAY, SO WHO WAS IT?
YEAH, NO, NO, I WAS, SO THIS IS ALL IN MY DISTRICT AND DISTRICT FOUR.
SO I TALKED TO THE CITY MANAGER AND CITY ATTORNEY AND SAID, HEY, WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT THIS BECAUSE THIS IS DEALING WITH LAWSUITS.
PS COMES WEEK AFTER WEEK, THEY HAVE A REQUEST, VERY UNUSUAL REQUEST.
AS THEY SAID, WE COULD TALK ABOUT THAT, WE CAN HEAR FROM THEM.
AND SO THAT'S HOW IT GOT PUT PLACED ON THE AGENDA.
AND I'VE ASSUMED THE MAYOR YOU WERE AWARE OF IT BEING PLACED ON THE AGENDA? YES.
BECAUSE WE DO, WE DO THE AGENDA REVIEW LAST WEEK.
I JUST, I JUST WANT CLARITY 'CAUSE IT'S UNUSUAL ALSO TO PUT ITEMS ON THE AGENDA WITHOUT SOME KIND OF DISCUSSION OR MM-HMM
SO I, I THOUGHT IT WAS UNUSUAL, BUT THANK YOU FOR YEAH.
THE CLARIFICATION IN TERMS OF THE PROPERTY ITSELF.
UM, DO WE KNOW WHEN THE CURRENT OWNER PURCHASED THE PROPERTY? NO, IT WAS SOMETIME BETWEEN 1984 AND 1996, I BELIEVE.
UH, IN LOOKING THROUGH TITLE REPORTS, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING I RESEARCHED.
I COULD PROBABLY FIND OUT FOR YOU, BUT YEAH, SORRY, I, IT'S BEEN A NUMBER OF YEARS.
I SHOULD HAVE ASKED YOU SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS BEFOREHAND.
UM, AND, AND DO WE KNOW WHAT THE ZONING WAS THEN? WELL, IN 1996, WHICH IS THE, THE LAST ZONING MAP THAT I HAVE HANGING AROUND IN MY OFFICE, IT WAS, UH, GENERAL COMMERCIAL.
WELL, THE THREE PROPERTIES THAT WERE IN THE CITY WERE GENERAL COMMERCIAL.
THE TWO PROPERTIES THAT WERE IN THE COUNTY WERE PREZONED AS RSS TWO OR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
BUT BEYOND THAT 1996, I, I COULDN'T SAY AT THIS POINT WHAT THE ZONING WAS.
PREVIOUSLY, THERE WERE HOMES DEVELOPED ON THAT LOT OR THOSE LOTS PREVIOUSLY, SO THERE WOULD'VE BEEN SOME ZONING IN PLACE THAT WOULD'VE ALLOWED FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES PREVIOUSLY.
JUST FOR CLARITY, WHEN WAS THE ZONING, UH, CHANGED? MOST RECENTLY? YEAH.
AND WHAT WAS IT CHANGED TO? IT WAS CHANGED FROM CGPD OR GENERAL COMMERCIAL TO RS TWO, AND THE PREZONED TO RS TWO WAS, WAS MAINTAINED.
AND YOU ALREADY ALLUDED TO THIS, BUT, BUT WHEN THEY RECEIVED, WHEN THEY APPLIED FOR A, UM, DEVELOPMENT PERMIT A FEW YEARS BACK, WHAT, WHAT WAS THE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT? UM, FOR, FOR A STRIP MALL WITH A DRIVE-THROUGH COFFEE SHOP.
AND, AND THE PLAN OBVIOUSLY DRASTICALLY CHANGED, UM, CORRECT.
TO THE PLAN THAT WAS EXPIRED, THAT APPROVAL DID EXPIRE ENTIRELY.
UM, NO, I, IT'S GOOD TO KIND OF LAY THAT OUT AND UNDERSTAND KIND OF WHERE THE PROJECT, UH, OR THIS LAND HAS BEEN OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF DECADES.
BUT, AND, AND I DO THINK IT'S AN UNUSUAL DISCUSSION FOR US TO HAVE.
UM, I THINK I, I, I ECHO THE SENTIMENTS OF MY COLLEAGUES WHEN IT COMES TO DEVELOPMENT.
MANY OF US ARE PRO-DEVELOPMENT.
I CERTAINLY AM AND WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT'S AS EASY AND EFFICIENT AS POSSIBLE.
BUT CONSIDERING THE AMOUNT OF SCRUTINY THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT AND
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DEVELOPMENT GROUP HAS RECEIVED, NOT JUST FROM THE COMMUNITY, BUT ITS RELATIONS TO THE MAYOR'S OFFICE IS VERY ALARMING, TO SAY THE LEAST.AND, UM, I KNOW WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THIS, BUT I DO THINK IT IS A TIMELY CONVERSATION FOR US TO DISCUSS.
UM, AND I, AND I, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I THINK IT'S, IT'S, IT'S ALARMING TO HAVE THESE ONGOING DISCUSSIONS.
SO, UH, I AM OPEN TO WHAT MY COLLEAGUES, UM, POSITIONS ARE.
BUT, BUT, BUT I REITERATE IT IS ALARMING TO THE AMOUNT OF SCRUTINY THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT HAS GOTTEN FROM THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE.
SO DO YOU THINK IT IS UNUSUAL FOR A PRIVATE ENTITY THAT IS OUTSIDE OF NATIONAL CITY TO REQUEST TO REZONE INTO DOWN ZONE ON SOMEONE ELSE'S PROPERTY? DO YOU THINK THAT'S UNUSUAL? SO, SO I DO THINK THE ENTIRE PROCESS IS UNUSUAL, BUT I'M ASKING, MY QUESTION IS ON THAT SPECIFICALLY THOUGH, RIGHT? SO I DO THINK THE WHOLE PROCESS IS UNUSUAL AND IF A PROCESS WOULD'VE BEEN VERY THOROUGH AND ANALYZE AND INCLUDED THE COMMUNITY, WE WOULD NOT BE IN THIS POSITION THAT WE ARE RIGHT NOW.
AND SO I DO THINK THE ENTIRE PROCESS IS EXCEEDINGLY UNUSUAL, WHICH IS WHY I AM SUPPORTING OF REVISITING THIS IN THE LONG RUN.
WHICH PART OF THE PROCESS IS UNUSUAL? BECAUSE THIS IS A CONVERSATION THAT THIS STAFF HAS GONE OVER IN DETAIL.
SO NOTICES WERE SENT OUT, THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR SEVERAL MONTHS, THE PROJECT IS CANCELED.
MY QUESTION SPECIFICALLY WAS, DO YOU THINK IT IS USUAL FOR ANOTHER OWNER TO REQUEST A DOWN ZONE OF A PROPERTY IN A COMPLETELY DUR DIFFERENT JURISDICTION? I MEAN, I, I THINK IT'S UNUSUAL, BUT AS I STATED BEFORE, IT'S UNUSUAL.
WE SHOULD NOT BE IN THIS POSITION IN THE FIRST PLACE.
SO YEAH, THE WHOLE SITUATION IS EXCEEDINGLY UNUSUAL.
HOW THE ITEM GOT ONTO THE AGENDA IS UNUSUAL.
SO ALL I'M SAYING IS IT IS A VERY UNUSUAL SITUATION AND WE SHOULDN'T BE IN THIS POSITION AS A COUNCIL.
UM, I JUST CAUGHT A COMMENT FROM YOU EARLIER.
I RE-READ THE LETTER THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE, THE ENTITY THAT IS REQUESTING FOR, THIS DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT LAWSUIT, IT'S JUST REQUESTING, UM, RESTORATION OF GENERAL PLAN AND ZONING, BUT YOUR COMMENT EARLIER IS A LAWSUIT THAT NEEDS TO BE CURED.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT? THAT HAS BEEN A COMMENT THAT HAS BEEN MADE HERE AT THE, AT THE DAIS, UH, AND, UH, BY THE, UH, LEGAL REPRESENTATIVES OF THE GROUP FROM THE LINCOLN THAT IS, UH, THAT SAID THAT THIS WOULD BE CURING THEIR LAW, THEIR PRA LAWSUIT.
AND IF WE WAS TO DO THIS AND THAT WOULD CURE IT AND THAT THE, IN OTHER WORDS, THAT THE OTHER LAWSUIT WOULD GO AWAY.
SO THAT HAS BEEN PUT ON THE RECORD SEVERAL TIMES.
I, I LIKE TO SEE THAT BECAUSE I READ THIS LETTER AND IT'S NOT CONNECTED TO ANY LAWSUIT OR WHATSOEVER.
IT'S JUST LOOKING AT THE POSSIBILITY OF RESTORATION OF GENERAL PLAN AND ZONING.
AND I THINK THAT SHOULD BE WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW.
UM, IT'S NOT ABOUT ANY LAWSUIT.
IT'S ABOUT THIS LETTER AND, UM, CURING ABOUT WHAT, UM, I HAVE TO, UM, ASK LEGAL COUNSEL ABOUT THAT LATER ON IN, BECAUSE ANY LAWSUIT SHOULDN'T BE ADDRESSED HERE ON THE DICE, MOST ESPECIALLY IF IT'S SENSITIVE SITUATIONS LIKE THIS THAT YOU HAVE, UM, MADE A COMMENT EARLIER.
SO THE ATTORNEY, COULD YOU CONFIRM IF THAT WAS A REQUEST AND IF THIS IS TIED INTO THE LAWSUIT? WELL, I, I THINK THEY'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SET THE RECORD THE WAY THEY WANT TO SET IT.
BUT, UM, THEY HAVE FILED ANOTHER LAWSUIT AGAINST THE CITY.
IT'S A, UH, LAWSUIT THAT'S ASKING FOR A DECLARATION FROM THE COURT THAT ESSENTIALLY THE CITY, UH, HAS THE RIGHT TO CHANGE THE ZONING AND THAT THERE'S NO VESTED RIGHTS.
AND I THINK THAT'S GENERALLY THE ESSENCE OF THE LAWSUIT.
UM, I WILL SAY THAT I DID RECALL THAT DURING ONE OF THE NUMEROUS TIMES THAT THEY'VE BEEN BEFORE THIS BODY, UH, THAT THEY HAVE INTIMATED THAT REZONING THE PROPERTY THE WAY IT'S BEING REQUESTED HERE WOULD ADDRESS THE ISSUES THAT THEY'VE BEEN TRYING TO ADDRESS THROUGH THEIR PRA LAWSUIT AND THE NUMBER OF TIMES THAT THEY'VE BEEN HERE
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BEFORE THE COUNCIL.BEFORE WE GET INTO MORE DISCUSSION, WE DO HAVE A NUMBER OF SPEAKERS AND WE WILL GO THROUGH THOSE, UH, ONCE AGAIN, WE WILL CONTINUE THE TWO MINUTES AS WE HAD BEFORE.
UH, FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE PATRICIA TERAN, OKAY.
UM, SANDY SCHELLER
OKAY? DON'T START YET, BUT WE WORE THIS, YOU KNOW, THE BEST OUTFITS, YOU KNOW THAT? YEAH.
YOU KNOW THAT I'M ON THE SOUTH BAY HISTORICAL SOCIETY.
YOU UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE INTO PRESERVATION.
IT'S NOT JUST LIKE NATIONAL CITY, TOULA VISTA, THE WHOLE, BUT IT'S THE WHOLE AREA.
OKAY? AND IF THE KIMBALL'S WERE ALIVE, OR IF THERE WERE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE FROM THE KIMBLE'S RIGHT NOW, THEY WOULD JUST BE ROLLING OVER IN THEIR GRAVES ON THIS.
OKAY? THE BOTTOM LINE IS THEY SET THE TONE, LOOK RIGHT BEHIND YOU, IT SAYS 1887, RIGHT? AND THEY SET THE TONE FOR THIS TO BE RESIDENTIAL.
OKAY? SO THE RESIDENTIAL INTEREST OF THE KIMBLE'S WAS SO IMPORTANT BACK THEN.
AND, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THE POWER TO TURN THIS BACK TO WHAT IT WAS.
THE WAY THAT THE PEOPLE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY, THEY BOUGHT IT AS RESIDENTIAL.
NOW WE UNDERSTAND THAT THINGS HAVE HAPPENED ALONG THE WAY AND HOW DID WE GET HERE? HOW DID WE GET THERE? IT'S NOT LIKE LA VISTA BROUGHT, IT CAME FROM YOU, OKAY? YOU BROUGHT THE PROBLEM AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE FIXED.
AND WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE IN THE VALUE BETWEEN SOMETHING THAT IS RESIDENTIAL AND SOMETHING THAT IS COMMERCIAL? AND THE ANSWER REALLY IS NOT THAT MUCH BUILDING IS GOING TO TAKE PLACE.
AND ESPECIALLY WITH THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON, AND WE SAW THE HAVOC OF THE COMMERCIAL SIT SOLUTION.
WE, WE, WE, WE SAW THAT IT WAS JUST, YOU KNOW, GETTING OUTTA HAND AND WE WERE GETTING INTO A LOT OF PERSONAL ISSUES.
AND THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE HAVE TO TAKE THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION.
SAFETY IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING, OKAY? BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT THE ZONING IS.
THE SECOND THING IS HISTORICAL PRESERVATION.
I'M VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT HISTORICAL PRESERVATION AND SO ARE OTHER PEOPLE.
AND ESPECIALLY IN NATIONAL CITY, YOU'VE GOT THE MOST AMAZING HISTORICAL BUILDINGS EVER AND WE CAN'T LET THAT GO.
ALRIGHT? THE OTHER THING IS THE PUBLIC NUISANCE, AND THE OTHER THING IS THE NOISE ABATEMENT, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
UH, NEXT WE HAVE LOUISA MCCARTHY, FOLLOWED BY MIKA BLANCO.
AGAIN, LIKE BARRY MENTIONED, WE'RE HERE YET AGAIN.
AND THE SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM IS TO REVERT THAT PROPERTY THAT LAND BACK TO RESIDENTIAL USE AS IT WAS FROM THE GET GO.
AND YES, I DON'T KNOW WHY EVERYBODY HAS TO LOOK AT EACH OTHER AND ASK A MILLION PEOPLE AROUND HERE.
WHAT CAN WE DO? YOU KNOW WHAT YOU CAN DO? YOU HAVE THE POWER TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS HAS CHANGED BACK TO ITS ORIGINAL FORM.
YOU GUYS HAVE ALL GONE TO SCHOOL.
WELL, SOME OF YOU, THERE IS NO LOSS IN VALUE TO LANDOWNERS.
THE LANDOWNERS HAVE PROVEN THEY CANNOT DEVELOP THIS LOT COMMERCIALLY.
AT LEAST THEY NEED CS AND A TON OF VARIANCES TO GET THAT DONE.
THEY DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO A CUP OR VARIANCES IN THAT POINT.
THE LANDOWNERS NEVER HAD A REAL LEASE FOR THE PROPOSAL OF THE SUPPOSEDLY COFFEE SHOP DRIVE THROUGH.
THEY DID THAT AS A RENDERING A LIKE A CONCEPT.
I WENT BACK TO ALL THE VIDEOS AND HEARD THEM OUT.
MR. MARUKA WAS ASKING, EVEN YOU, DO YOU KNOW OF ANY DEVELOPERS? LIKE, COME ON, LET'S GET WITH IT.
I COULD HAVE, I COULD DO A LOT OF THINGS WITH MY TIME.
AND JUST LIKE YOU DISRUPTED THAT CORNER, THE ANNEXATION, WE KNOW RON MORRISON AND MARCUS BUSH ARE ALL PRO ANNEXATION.
AND YOU CAN SAY NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.
THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT SAY IT.
YOU'VE COME UP TO US PERSONALLY, MIKA AND MYSELF MANY TIMES TO TRY TO PERSUADE US TO ANNEX INTERNATIONAL CITY.
SO THIS IS ALL FOR YOUR FRIENDS.
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I WOULD LIKE TO ASK SOME QUESTIONS.FOR EXAMPLE, CAN WE BRING UP AND ASK QUESTIONS? BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO ASK MIKA AND LUISA IF THEY HAVE MADE OFFERS ON THIS PROPERTY.
AND I THINK THAT IS RELEVANT TO THIS DISCUSSION.
SO IF THERE, BECAUSE IF THERE IS, IF THERE IS, UH, QUESTIONS, EXCUSE MAYOR.
EXCUSE, WE'RE NOT IN CHARGE OF THIS MEETING.
IF, IF THERE IS, UH, IF THEY HAVE MADE OFFERS, MR. MAYOR ON THE DEVELOPMENT, MR. IT'S IMPORTANT TO RUN THE MEETING ACCORDINGLY, PLEASE.
THIS IS A VERY UNUSUAL WAY TO RUN A MEETING, MR. MAYOR.
OKAY, WELL, WE'RE GONNA BE UNUSUAL TONIGHT.
AND, AND, AND REAL QUICK, BUT MAYOR, BUT I, SO I WOULD LIKE THOSE QUESTIONS ASKED, AND I THINK IT IS RELEVANT IF YOU GUYS HAVE PUT IN OFFERS AND THE PROPERTY THAT YOU ARE REQUESTING US TO DOWN SOME.
SO I, I WOULD LIKE THIS TO BE A DISCUSSION, NOT JUST PERFORMANCE STATE.
WELL, AS LUISA SAID, UM, YOU DO HAVE THE POWER TO REONE IT.
I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S THE QUESTION BEING, UH, PROPOSED.
UM, I THINK THE QUESTION IS NOT, YOU KNOW, WHETHER THESE, UH, WHAT, WHETHER YOU CAN TURN IT BACK TO RESIDENTIAL OR NOT.
YOU KNOW, YOU CAN, YOU HAVE THE LEGISLATIVE POWER TO DO SO.
THESE, UH, UH, FIVE PARCELS SHOULD HAVE NEVER, EVER BEEN CONSIDERED FOR COMMERCIAL.
FIRST OF ALL, THAT IS SPOT ZONING.
IT IS A RESIDENTIAL AND NEIGHBORHOOD.
WITH A RESIDENTIAL STREET, THERE IS NO BUY, RIGHT? NOTHING CAN GO THERE.
BUY RIGHT WITHOUT OVERDEVELOPING THAT PROPERTY THAT WILL BRING, YOU'RE ONLY INVITING MORE LAWSUITS.
YOU'RE ONLY INVITING MORE HEALTH RISKS FOR THE RESIDENTS.
YOU ARE ONLY INVITING MORE PROBLEMS TO THE CITY BY HAVING IT BE A CLUSTER OF AN AREA THAT IS, THERE IS PLACES FOR RESIDENTIAL, FOR COMMERCIAL.
NOW ALL WE'RE ASKING THE, THE VALUE BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL AND THE COMMERCIAL, IT'S REALLY NOT THAT MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE.
WHY? BECAUSE WHATEVER IT IS THAT YOU HAVE TO PUT ON THERE FOR IT TO PENCIL OUT, AS MARTIN TOLD ME, FOR THE DEVELOPERS, HAS TO BE AN OVERSIZE PROJECT.
IT'S A TRIANGULAR LOT THAT'S 0.787 AN ACRE.
IT IS VERY, VERY DIFFICULT TO PUT ANYTHING IN THERE, INCLUDING RESIDENTIAL UNITS THAT ARE 75 UNITS INCLUDING THAT BECAUSE WITHOUT IT CAUSING A LOT OF PROBLEMS FOR THE RESIDENTS, IT WON'T HAPPEN.
AND LIKE MARTIN READER SAID, THE REASON WHY THE BRICO COULDN'T DOWNSIZE IT WAS BECAUSE THEY NEEDED TO PUT MORE USES TO, FOR IT TO PENCIL OUT.
HAVE YOU GUYS MADE AN OFFER ON THE PROPERTY? YEAH.
SEE, THERE'S A REASON WHY YOU ALL DON'T WANT TO ANSWER THAT BASIC QUESTION.
SO NO DISCUSSION FROM THE AUDIENCE.
I WON'T, I WILL NOT ASK YOU AGAIN.
I WISH THAT THERE COULD HAVE BEEN A PUBLIC OPINION FROM THE BEGINNING BECAUSE WE ARE STILL HERE AND WE ARE STILL NOT BEING HEARD.
I FEEL LIKE WE'RE AT THE SAME PLACE WHERE WE STARTED BACK LAST YEAR.
THIS COULD BE A RESIDENTIAL MATTER BECAUSE IT IS IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA.
THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE ARE ON NARROW STREETS.
AS WE DRIVE UP FROM THE MAIN STREET, IT IS VERY NARROW TO GET TO WORK.
I OPEN THE OFFICE EVERY MORNING AT EIGHT O'CLOCK AND I SEE CHILDREN WALK BY, SOMETIMES UNACCOMPANIED BY ADULTS.
I SEE THE DANGERS THAT ARE ON THAT STREET, LIKE IN THAT TIGHT NEIGHBORHOOD AND KNOW THAT COMMERCIAL IS NOT APPROPRIATE.
IT'S NOT WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT.
IF THEY WOULD'VE BEEN CONSIDERED FROM THE BEGINNING, THEY WOULD'VE TOLD YOU DIRECTLY.
WE WOULD'VE SAVED A LOT OF TIME, A LOT OF MONEY, AND A LOT OF SPACE IF WE USE IT ADEQUATELY.
THE COMMUNITY DO NOT NEED HAZARDOUS MATERIAL ON THEIR LAND.
THEREFORE, THERE'S ALWAYS ROOM FOR NEGOTIATION TO PROVIDE THE BEST INTEREST FOR THE RESIDENTS.
LA VISTA WAS FOUNDED BY THE KIMBALL'S.
I'M WORKING ON MAKING LA VISTA A HISTORICAL PROJECT,
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A NATIONAL LANDMARK.AND THAT'S RANCH, THAT WAS NATIONAL CITY.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HISTORY TO PRESENT DAY, AND WE'RE TRYING TO PRESERVE WHAT IT IS.
IT'S THE PEOPLES AND WE ARE THE PEOPLE.
SO RESPECT US AS WE TRY TO RESPECT YOU EVERY DAY WHEN WE ARE BEING TOLD THAT OUR OPINIONS DON'T MATTER, THAT WE CANNOT PROVIDE WHAT THE COMMUNITY NEEDS.
LET ME JUST ASK A CLARIFICATION QUESTION.
YOU, YOU DID SAY THAT YOU HAD, UH, THAT CHILDREN WERE WALKING DOWN ORANGE AVENUE.
OKAY? SO, SO CHILDREN WALK DOWN THAT AVENUE.
SHE SAYS SHE SEES EVERY MORNING, WHICH MEANS THEY HAVE TO WALK PAST THE SEVEN 11 THAT SELLS ALCOHOL, THAT HAS ALL THESE THINGS, UH, RIGHT THERE ON THAT SAME STREET.
SO JUST WANNA UH, MENTION ON THAT.
OKAY? NEXT WE GO TO, UH, MICHAEL AGIRI NATIONAL CITY REACHED INSIDE OF LINCOLN ACRES AND CHANGED THE ZONING WHEN IT WAS NOT EVEN PART OF THE CITY.
THEY TOOK, FINISH THE COMMENTS.
THEY TOOK A RESIDENTIAL AREA AND CHANGED THE ZONING AND CHANGED THE GENERAL PLAN AND THEN WENT TO LCO.
IF YOU, YOU DON'T KNOW THE RECORD, YOU ASKED A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS.
THIS MAN, YOU CAN'T EVEN TALK TO MAYOR.
I WILL SUE YOU NEXT WEEK TO GET AN INJUNCTION AGAINST YOU IF YOU DON'T MAINTAIN ORDER.
HE'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE TALKING DURING OUR AGENDA.
WILL YOU ENFORCE THE ORDER, SIR? WELL, YOU WERE TALKING OUTTA TURN ALSO, SIR.
NO, NO, I WAS, I SAID WILL YOU YOUT, I'M ASKING YOUR, YOU'RE WASTING YOUR TIME, WILL YOU? I I AM NOT UNDER YOUR JURISDICTION.
YOU'RE NOT UNDER ANYONE'S JURISDICTION.
NOW, THE REASON THAT WE ARE RECALLING MARCUS BUSH AS FAST AS WE CAN MM-HMM
I'D LIKE TO KNOW THAT HE IS OUT OF ORDER.
SO YOU'RE RECALLING YOU WANNA RECALL ME 'CAUSE I'M OUT OF ORDER.
THIS IS, THIS IS, THIS IS, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT COUNSEL, UH, LU YOU SHOULD LOOK INTO WHAT YOU'RE DOING BECAUSE YOU ARE CARRYING THE WATER OF THIS DISHONESTY.
AND THIS IS WHY WE WENT TO COURT.
WE WENT TO COURT AND SAID, LET A JUDGE DECIDE IF YOU HAVE THE POWER OR NOT.
IT'S NOT ABOUT THE PROPERTY OWNERS.
THEY REPRESENT THE PROPERTY OWNERS.
THESE TWO REPRESENT THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND THEY'RE SUCKERING YOU INTO REPRESENTING THEM TOO.
YOU DON'T SHOULDN'T BE REPRESENTING THE PROPERTY OWNER.
WHY ISN'T THE PROPERTY OWNER HERE? 'CAUSE HE REPRESENTS HIM.
HE REPRESENTS HIM, AND THEY'RE TRYING TO GET YOU TO DO IT TOO.
IF THE PROPERTY OWNER WERE REALLY CONCERNED, DON'T YOU THINK HE WOULD BE HERE TODAY? THANK YOU.
IS ON COMMENT? THIS IS ON THE AGENDA.
MIKE, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS THOUGH? YEAH, LET'S DO IT.
SO HAVE YOU, SO HAVE YOU MADE A PURCHASE ON THE PROPERTY OR HAVE YOU MADE AN OFFER, YOU OR YOUR CLIENTS ON THAT PROPERTY? HAVE I MADE AN OFFER? HAVE YOUR CLIENTS MADE AN OFFER ON THAT PROPERTY? YES, IT WAS AN OFFER MADE IN THE PROPERTY.
DON'T YOU SEE A PROBLEM? AND DOESN'T IT APPEAR LIKE EXTORTION TO YOU? IF YOU'RE COMING TO US, BOMBARDING US WITH P'S, WHICH BY THE WAY ARE VERY POLITICAL BECAUSE HOLD ON, YOU ASKED ME.
A AND JOSE AREN'T HOLD ON, AREN'T ON ALL OF THIS IS POLITICAL YOU DOWN THIS ROAD, BUT DON'T YOU THINK ON, HOLD ON THAT IT, THAT IT'S A PROBLEM NO.
FROM A DIFFERENT JURISDICTION? NO.
BUT YOU HAVE MADE AN OFFER ON THE PROPERTY.
YOU ASKED ME IF I THOUGHT IT WAS A PROBLEM.
NO, IT'S NOT A PROBLEM AT ALL.
SO WHY, HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT, BY THE WAY? NOW YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTION.
HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT? HOW DO YOU KNOW? HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT? I I DON'T KNOW THAT I, NO, NO.
WHERE DID YOU GET THAT INFORMATION? I GOT IT FROM EDDIE BRICO.
OH, WHEN DID YOU TALK TO HIM? I TALKED TO HIM YESTERDAY.
OKAY, WE'RE GONNA TAKE YOUR DEPOSITION.
SO YOU DID MAKE AN OFFER ON THE PROPERTY THEN, MAYOR, CONSIDERING THAT WE HAVE AN OPEN LAWSUIT, I REALLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO RUN THE MEETING APPROPRIATELY.
THIS IS CO COMPLETELY CONSIDERING WE HAVE A OPEN LAWSUIT.
I WOULD, MR. MAYOR, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU PLEASE MR. MAYOR.
I I KNOW IT'S YOU, YOU, YOU, YOU MAKE THESE COMMENTS CONSTANTLY WHEN IT'S TO YOUR ADVANTAGE.
ALWAYS WHEN IT'S TO HIS POLITICAL ADVANTAGE.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE TO BEGIN AFTER THIS.
UH, YOU KNOW, JUST COMPLETE LACK OF ORDER OR ANY SEMBLANCE OF ORDER HERE.
THIS IS REALLY LIKE THE WILD WEST.
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I JUST CERTAINLY NOT, YOU KNOW, ROBERT'S RULES OR BROWN ACT.UM, LET'S START WITH THE FACT THAT, UH, MR. BUSH, YOU COUNCIL MEMBER BUSH, YOU WERE SAYING THAT YOU HAD MET WITH THE BRIOS.
I MEAN, THAT'S ALL ROADS LEAD TO THE BRIOS, IT SEEMS. THERE WAS, MARTIN REEDER TESTIFIED RECENTLY THAT JOSIE CLARK TOLD COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WE HAVE TO HELP THE BRIOS OKAY.
AND NOW WE'RE ALL, UH, TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, THE COUNCIL IS TRYING TO EARLY CERTAIN PEOPLE OR THE COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR ARE TRYING TO PUSH THAT PROJECT THROUGH.
THIS IS A PARCEL, UH, THAT WAS ASSEMBLED BY FIVE SEPARATE PARCELS.
IT WAS CHANGED FROM, UH, WHAT WAS HISTORICALLY RESIDENTIAL IN TO THE MIXED USE THE, UH, PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
AND THE COUNCIL WOULD'VE HAD TO GO, UH, BEND OVER BACKWARDS TO GIVE VARIANCE AFTER VARIANCE, AFTER VARIANCE AFTER VARIANCE, JUST TO TRY TO MAKE THE PROJECT WORK.
BECAUSE IN ORDER TO RECOUP ANY TYPE OF INVESTMENT THERE, YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE A OVERSIZED PROJECT.
I MEAN, LOOK AT THE LAST ONE THAT WAS PROPOSED.
OKAY? IT WASN'T JUST THE COFFEE SHOP THAT WAS PROPOSED ORIGINALLY, WHICH THEY COULDN'T GET OFF THE GROUND.
NO, WE HAD TO ADD ON, YOU KNOW, A, UH, CAR WASH.
YOU HAD TO ADD ON A, UH, RESIDENTIAL UPSTAIRS, RETAIL BELOW A RESTAURANT RIGHT NEXT TO YOU HAVE PEOPLE LIVING ABOVE A CAR WASH WITH SOMEONE FLICKING A CIGARETTE WOULD MAKE THE WHOLE THING GO UP IN FLAMES.
OKAY? THAT'S HOW MUCH YOU HAD TO DEVIATE JUST TO MAKE IT THE PROJECT WORK.
THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY IS RESIDENTIAL AT THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION THAT HAPPENS TO BE HIGHEST AND BEST USE THE CITY ATTORNEY.
UH, I WOULD, WE WOULD'VE HOPED YOU HAVE DONE THE RESEARCH BEFOREHAND, BUT IT'S NOT A TAKING BECAUSE THE NUMBERS JUST DON'T PAN OUT.
AND LEMME JUST FOR THE RECORD, I JUST HEARD, I FORGET HOW IT WAS PUT, BUT SOMETHING LIKE A HUGE AMOUNT OF VARIANCES, MAJOR VARIANCES.
THE VARIANCE WAS THE WIDTH ON A DRIVEWAY SO THAT THE GAS TRUCK COULD GET INTO THE, INTO THE FACILITY.
UH, IT WAS ALSO THE TRIANGULAR SHAPE AT THE END SO THAT OTHERWISE IF YOU HAVE, UH, VEGETATION, UH, YOU BASICALLY TAKE UP THE WHOLE SPACE AND YOU DON'T HAVE FOR PARKING.
THAT WAS THE BIG VARIANCES THAT WERE JUST MONSTROUS VARIANCES THAT WAS MENTIONED.
THAT, AND ON THE OTHER THING YOU MENTIONED THAT I WAS SPEAKING FOR THE OWNER, UM, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, I'VE NEVER, I'VE NEVER EVEN MET THE OWNER.
UH, IF I HAVE SOMEBODY JUST INTRODUCED 'EM TO ME AND JUST SAID, THIS IS SO AND SO.
CERTAINLY NEVER TALKED WITH THEM, SO I DON'T REPRESENT THEM.
UM, I'M SURE YOU TALK TO YOUR CLIENTS NOW.
UH, MARISSA CUEVAS, SHE'S, SHE'S NOT HERE.
UH, ALEXANDER GUT GURU, I GOT, I'LL TRY TO GET THAT RIGHT.
THERE'LL BE NO SUBSTANTIAL DIFFERENCE IN THE VALUE BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL ZONING AND THE COMMERCIAL ZONING BECAUSE THE COMMERCIAL PROJECT IN THE FIRST PLACE WAS NOT VIABLE.
ON THE ONE HAND YOU HAVE THE CEQA EXEMPTIONS.
THESE EXEMPTIONS WERE BASED ON A FINDING THAT THERE WOULD BE A DECREASE IN TRAFFIC IN THE AREA.
ON THE OTHER HAND, YOU HAVE THE THREE VARIANCES, AND THOSE WERE BASED ON AN INCREASE IN TRAFFIC.
THE COMMERCIAL PROJECT WAS NOT VIABLE.
THE SOLUTION TO THIS IS TO ER, RETURN THE ZONING TO WHAT IT HAD HISTORICALLY BEEN, WHICH IS THE RESIDENTIAL ZONE, THE RS TWO, ESPECIALLY DURING, AS COUNCIL MEMBER BUSH SAID EARLIER, DURING THIS HOUSING CRISIS THROUGHOUT CALIFORNIA.
EXCUSE ME, MAYOR, BEFORE WE GO FORWARD.
COULD WE HAVE A MOTION TO, UH, CONTINUE? YES.
UH, MAKE A MOTION TO EXTEND THE MEETING TILL 1130.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
MOTION PASSES TO EXTEND TO 11.
OKAY, NOW WE, NOW WE CAN MOVE ON TO 1130.
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1971.THERE'S SEVEN 11, BUT SEVEN 11 HADN'T MOVED FROM ACROSS THE STREET.
HERE'S ONE HOUSE, WHICH WAS GRANDMA'S HOUSE.
HERE IS HER LITTLE RENTAL HOUSE.
HERE'S BENNY AND NANCY'S HOUSE.
AND HERE'S MR. MATTHEW'S HOUSE.
INTIMATE DOMAIN TOOK ALL THOSE HOUSES.
GRANDMA KNUDSON'S HOUSE, HER RENTAL HOUSE, HENRY'S HOUSE, BENNY AND NANCY'S HOUSE, AND MR. MACKEY'S HOUSE, 1981.
GRANDMA SEN'S HOUSE, HER RENTAL HOUSE, HENRY'S HOUSE BENDING NANCY'S HOUSE AND MR. MACKEY'S HOUSE.
GRANDMA KNUDSON'S HOUSE, HER RENTAL HOUSE, HENRY'S HOUSE, AND, UH, BENNING'S, NANCY'S HOUSE AND MR. MACKEY'S HOUSE.
I PROVIDED YOU THE DATA OF ALL THE PROPERTY HISTORY WHEN IT WAS SOLD.
HOW MANY BEDROOMS, HOW MANY BATH, HOW MANY SQUARE FEET? THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT.
PLEASE REFER TO THE VISUALS, OTHER DOCUMENTS FOR THANK YOU.
AND THANK YOU FOR THE VISUALS.
NEXT WE HAVE, UH, DOYLE MORRISON.
I'M HERE TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT THE ITEM 11.4.
I'VE SUBMITTED A WRITTEN STATEMENT THAT I HOPE YOU'VE ALL HAD A CHANCE TO READ.
I PERSONALLY WHEELED OFF THE DIMENSIONS AND WAS SURPRISED TO SEE HOW, UH, SUCH A DELTA BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL RS TWO AND THE MX TWO TWO, UM, THAT WERE ALONG SWEETWATER ROAD.
THAT MEANS THAT IT WAS LESS ON THE MIXED USE.
OLIVE STREET HAS 94% RESIDENTIAL.
ORANGE STREET HAS 97% RESIDENTIAL.
CYPRESS STREET HAS 71% RESIDENTIAL.
I THINK THE STAFF MISTAKENLY ADMITTED THE RESIDENCE ALONG SWEETWATER ROAD, EAST OF THE NATIONAL CITY SPORTS BAR WHEN THEY DID THEIR CALCULATIONS, WHEN THEY WERE LOOKING AT THAT, WHETHER IT'S SPOT ZONING OR NOT.
AND I THINK IT'S CLEAR THAT THE AREA AROUND THIS SPOT OF MX TWO IS PRIMARILY RESIDENTIAL.
MY WIFE SHOWED YOU A BUNCH OF PICTURES THAT SHOWED ALL THE RESIDENTIAL.
PLEASE CONSIDER CHANGING ZONING BACK TO RS TWO AND THE USE BACK TO LOW MEDIUM DENSITY.
THIS AREA IS PRIMARILY RESIDENTIAL.
YOU TRY TO PUT A CONGLOMERATE OF A DEVELOPMENT ON THERE AND YOU GET ALL OF THOSE RESIDENTS HERE TELLING YOU, WE DON'T WANT THAT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT'S A NUISANCE AND IT'S A HEALTH RISK FOR EVERYONE THAT LIVES THERE.
I HOPE THAT YOU GUYS CAN SEE THIS.
I HOPE THAT YOU GUYS ARE LISTENING TO US.
I HOPE THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT COME UP THAT'S HORRIBLE FOR LINCOLN ACRES AND THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY IN THAT AREA.
OKAY, NEXT WE HAVE, UH, CONNIE.
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UH, TARONE NOT AVAILABLE.DID YOU GUYS, UH, LEAVE THE DOOR OPEN IN HERE? YEAH.
UH, THEN I HAD TWO OF 'EM HERE THAT SAID THEY WANTED TO REGISTER.
THEY WERE IN FAVOR, BUT DID NOT WANT TO SPEAK.
UH, CORINA FLORES AND ROSADA MA UH, MARIN.
THOSE WILL BE REGISTERED IN THAT WAY.
THAT'S ALL THE SPEAKERS THAT WE HAVE ON THIS.
UM, AND THERE ARE TWO, UH, WRITTEN COMMENTS THAT WE HAD.
AND WE DID RECEIVE THE TWO WRITTEN COMMENTS, INCLUDING, UH, DOYLE MORRISON'S.
UM, IT WAS MENTIONED THAT I WAS A BIG, THAT I WAS A PROPONENT FOR ANNEXATION.
NEVER HAVE I, I HAVE, I, MATTER OF FACT, I FOUGHT WITH THE PEOPLE WITH, AND WHAT I'M SAYING WITH THEM, SILICON ACRES, WHEN ANNEXATION CAME UP BEFORE AND WENT FOR A VOTE.
'CAUSE I SAID, NO, SHOULDN'T BE.
AND THEY WAS TRYING TO BE FORCED DOWN THEIR THROAT.
I'VE NEVER BEEN FOR ANNEXATION.
IF INDIVIDUALS WANT TO ANNEX, THAT'S THEIR RIGHT.
AND YOU GO THROUGH A PROCESS AND, UH, YOU KNOW, AND, UH, SOMEONE MADE MENTION A WHILE AGO OF THE, THE DEAL ABOUT, UH, TOXIC MATERIALS BECAUSE IT'S ON THEIR LAND.
WELL, NO, IT'S ON SOMEBODY ELSE'S LAND.
AND SO THIS, FOR SOME REASON, THE, THE, UH, INDIVIDUALS THAT LIVE THERE IN LINCOLN ACRE SOMEHOW THINK THIS PROPERTY BELONGS TO THEM AND THINGS DO CHANGE.
THEY SAW THE PICTURES THERE AND IT SHOWED WHERE THE, THE SEVEN 11 USED TO BE, AND THEN WHERE THE SEVEN 11 WAS GONNA BE.
IT ALSO, IF YOU LOOK AT THE LOWER PORTION OF THAT PICTURE, THERE WAS A GOLF COURSE THAT CHANGED.
UH, I LIVE ON A STREET THAT'S ENTIRELY RESIDENTIAL AND, BUT AT THE END OF OUR STREET, GUESS WHAT? THEY MADE IT COMMERCIAL.
AND SO I'VE GOT TWO HOUSES, AND THEN I'VE GOT THE BACK OF A SEVEN 11, AND THEN A WHOLE BUNCH OF COMMERCIAL THAT GOES, GOES ENTIRELY ALL DOWN THE STREET.
UM, THE, UH, AND I THINK JUST THERE'S A FUNDAMENTAL DEAL HERE THAT KEEPS GETTING BROUGHT UP ON THIS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE NEIGHBORS WANT TO DO WHAT? THAT LAND.
AND I THINK YOU SHOULD HAVE INPUT AND YOU AND YOUR INPUT SHOULD BE, SHOULD BE VALUED.
BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU GET THE SAY WITH SOMEBODY ELSE'S LAND.
AND YOU KNOW, AND HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, THE SAME WAY, IF I GOT A NEIGHBOR WHO WANTS TO DO SOMETHING, I HAD PEOPLE THAT BUILT A HOUSE, TWO HOUSES ACTUALLY BEHIND MY HOUSE.
A HOUSE AND A AND A GRANNY FLAT.
IT AIN'T NO GRANNY FLAT LIKE YOU'VE EVER SEEN THAT DID A REALLY NICE JOB.
BUT THEY WERE VERY ACCOMMODATING.
YOU'D HOPE WHATEVER YOUR NEIGHBORS ARE THAT ARE GONNA BUILD AROUND YOU WOULD BE ACCOMMODATING AND WOULD TAKE YOUR SUGGESTIONS, THINGS ALONG THAT LINE.
UH, THE, UH, THE THE OTHER, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS, I MEAN, TAKING A LOOK AT THIS, WHAT STANDING DO YOU HAVE THEN FOR MAKING A REQUEST FOR REZONING? YOU KNOW, THAT'S DONE EITHER BY THE, THE, THE WHATEVER THE GOVERNMENT LEVEL, IF IT'S A CITY OR THE COUNTY OR WHATEVER.
DONE THEN THROUGH, UH, GENERAL PLAN UPDATES, GENERAL PLAN, UM, UM, CONCEPTS AND ALSO THE SPECIFIC PLANS.
OR IT'S DONE BY THE REQUEST OF THE PROPERTY OWNER.
THAT'S THE, THAT IS JUST A SIMPLE REALITY.
AND FOR THIS DEAL OF, OF MAKING SOME OF THESE STATEMENTS AND JUST SAYING AS IF THEY'RE FACTUAL.
I DON'T KNOW OF A, OF A SINGLE REAL ESTATE PERSON THAT WILL TELL YOU THAT GOING FROM A SITE OF THAT SIZE, FROM COMMERCIAL AND GOING DOWN TO RESIDENTIAL IS NO DIFFERENT.
THAT'S THE MOST IDIOTIC THING I THINK I'VE EVER HEARD IN MY LIFE.
UH, AND SO WOULD THERE BE A TAKING ABSOLUTELY.
THERE'S A TAKING WHETHER, IF THERE'D EVER BEEN A PROJECT THERE OR NOT.
I MEAN, THERE WAS ONE PROJECT THAT WAS ALREADY APPROVED.
NOW WHETHER IF THEY HAD A CONTRACT OR NOT, DOESN'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE.
THEY WERE STILL ABLE TO GET THE APPROVAL ON IT.
AND THAT'S BEEN OVER A NUMBER OF YEARS.
UM, SO FOR US TO GO IN AND START TELLING A, A PERSON WHAT TO DO WITH THEIR PROPERTY AND TO DOWN ZONE IT BECAUSE SOMEBODY ELSE WANTS YOU TO DOWN ZONE IT, AND AS WE JUST HEARD APPEAR, WHO THOSE PEOPLE ARE
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MAKING A ARE MAKING PROPOSALS FOR THAT PROPERTY.SO IN OTHER WORDS, YOU KNOW, DARN GOOD.
WELL, THE PROPERTY VALUE FOR A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY AND YOU TAKE IT TO RESIDENTIAL IS GONNA GO DOWN.
AND SO PEOPLE THAT ARE ASKING FOR US TO DOWN ZONE IT ARE ALSO ASKING TO BUY IT ONCE IT GETS DOWN.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, THIS, YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T CARE IF YOU QUOTE ME ON THIS OR NOT.
THIS CIRCUS THAT HAS WENT ON FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS HAS BEEN JUST THAT, UH, THAT HAS CONTINUED ON THIS.
I WAS NOT PUSHING THIS PROJECT.
I WAS PUSHING TO GET THE PROJECT THROUGH THE PROCESS AS I HAVE DONE, UH, ALL KINDS OF, YEAH.
AND, AND TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, IT IS REALLY INTERESTING 'CAUSE I TALKED TO THE OTHER MAYORS ALL THE TIME, AND THEY ASK ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON HERE IN THE CITY.
AND ON THIS ONE THEY GO, WAIT A MINUTE, YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE SAYING THAT THE MAYOR SHOULDN'T TALK WITH DEVELOPERS ABOUT BRINGING DEVELOPMENT INTO A CITY AND HELPING 'EM THROUGH THE PROCESS JUST TO GET THROUGH THE PROCESS.
THEY GO, WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE? WHAT? THEY DON'T SEEM TO KNOW WHAT THE, THEY DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
UH, SO, YOU KNOW, THERE IS, AND I KNOW SOME PEOPLE UP HERE LIKE TO USE THIS FOR KEN AND FODDER AND WE'RE DISTRACTION OR WHATEVER ELSE.
UM, BUT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF ACCUSATIONS AND BOTH PROFESSIONALLY AND PERSONALLY WITHOUT AN OUNCE OF PROOF, WHETHER IF IT WAS BUCKETS OF MONEY OR ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN, UH, HAVE BEEN ACCUSED OF, UH, YOU KNOW, OR THE ACCUSATION, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT CAME OUT MUCH LATER HERE ON THE WHOLE IDEA OF, UH, SOMEHOW BOTH MYSELF AND MY ASSISTANT WERE GETTING, UH, GAS AT DISCOUNTS AND ALCOHOL AT DISCOUNTS WHEN ACTUALLY ALL THE DOCUMENTS SHOWING THE PEOPLE THAT WERE ASKING FOR THOSE DISCOUNTS IN RETURN FOR FAVORING THE PROJECT WAS ACTUALLY THE TWO PEOPLE WHOSE NAMES ARE ON THIS LETTER.
UH, SO, YOU KNOW, JUST GETTING UP TO THE MICROPHONE, AND THIS HAS BEEN OUR FIRST OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY HAD KIND OF ADDRESSED THIS STUFF, BUT JUST GOING UP THE MICROPHONE AND CONSTANTLY MAKING CLAIMS IS TOTALLY RIDICULOUS AND IT'S CHILDISH.
AND THIS IS ABOUT AS JUNIOR HIGH AN ACTIVITY AS I HAVE SEEN.
AND A LOT OF IT HAS GOTTEN JUST, PEOPLE HAVE WENT WAY OVER, STEPPED WAY ON BEYOND BOUNDARIES, WHAT THEY SHOULD BE STEPPING AND SOME OF THE PERSONAL THINGS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S BEEN DONE.
AND SO, I DON'T CARE HOW WELL YOU CAN ORGANIZE, YOU CAN ORGANIZE ALL YOU WANT TO.
YOU CAN CALL UP PEOPLE ALL OVER THE COUNTY.
BELIEVE ME, I GET CALLS FROM PEOPLE TELLING ME THEY'RE BEING CALLED, UH, THE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN DO THAT ALL YOU WANT TO.
THAT DOESN'T MAKE IT ANYTHING YOU'RE DOING RIGHTEOUS.
AND, UH, SO FROM A CITY STANDPOINT, I DON'T SEE HOW WE CAN TOUCH THIS REQUEST AT ALL BECAUSE IT IS SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROPERTY.
AND WE ARE NOT HEARING FROM THAT PROPERTY OWNER OR THE PERSON WHO'S EVEN LEASED TO SAYING, WE WOULD LIKE TO BE A REZONING.
WE'RE HERE, WE'RE TALKING FROM PEOPLE THAT TWO THINGS DON'T OWN THE PROPERTY THAT LIVE IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS.
AND, AND SAYING, WE WANT TO, THAT'D BE LIKE ME GOING TO THE COUNTY AND SAYS, GUESS WHAT? I WANT YOU TO REZONE THE VISTA.
NOW YOU WOULD THINK THAT WOULD BE RIDICULOUS.
BUT THAT'S WHAT IS BASICALLY BEING ASKED HERE.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, AND SO USING ALL THE THREATS AND MAKING ALL THESE, I MEAN, VERY SPURS, ACCUSATIONS AND, UH, PERSONALITY ATTACKS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND THEN WHEN PEOPLE SAY, WE ARE GONNA DO THIS AND WE'RE GONNA DO THIS, AND I KNOW TONIGHT WE COME UP HERE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA DO THIS.
UH, AS FAR AS A RECALL OF AUN A NATIONAL CITY COUNCIL MEMBER BY PEOPLE THAT DON'T EVEN LIVE IN NATIONAL CITY.
YOU KNOW, HOW INTELLIGENT IS THAT? AND I'M SURE THEY CAN GET SOME PEOPLE TO FRONT FOR 'EM, BUT THE PEOPLE BEHIND IT DON'T EVEN LIVE IN NATIONAL CITY THROUGH THE CHAIR.
UM, CAN WE GO BACK TO THE LETTER AND MAYBE DIRECT OUR LEGAL COUNSEL? OKAY.
BECAUSE WE'RE GO GOING OFF TANGENT.
WE JUST HAVE TO FOCUS ON THE LETTER.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, SO AS YOU KNOW, AS, SO AS WE LOOK AT THIS THING, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE SAME WAY, UH, MUCH WHEN WE WENT TO A MEETING THAT WAS HELD OVER AT LINCOLN ACRES THERE AT THE LIBRARY.
I KNOW THE MORRISONS WERE THERE, AND, UH, LUIS MIKA AND
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ALL THERE AND EVERYTHING ELSE.AND, UH, I STOOD AT THE BACK, NOT SAYING A WORD, BUT THERE WAS ALL KIND OF ACCUSATIONS MADE.
THEY'RE TRYING TO ANNEX, EXCUSE ME, MR. MAYOR, TRYING TO STEAL OUR MONEY, MR. AND DO EVERYTHING ELSE.
CAN WE PLEASE? UM, YEAH, YOU'VE BEEN GOING OFF FOR 10 MINUTES AT THIS POINT.
WE CAN WE, 'CAUSE I'VE HEARD YOU MAKING ALL YOUR ACCUSATIONS PLAYING WITH THAT.
I HAVEN'T BEEN MAKING ANY ACCUSATIONS.
YOU MADE A LOT OF ACCUSATIONS, JOSE.
BUT GUYS, I'M LOOKING AT THE CROWD AND HALF THE PEOPLE ARE ASLEEP.
AND EVERYBODY WANTS TO GO AND PART AND PART OF THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE YOU HAVE BEEN RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS POLITICAL CIRCUS, JOSE, BECAUSE YOU'RE RUNNING FOR MAYOR IN 2026 AND YOU'RE DESPERATE.
AND YOU ARE CONTRIBUTING TO THIS.
THAT IS WHY FLOOR, I HAVE THE FLOOR RIGHT NOW AND I'M GONNA CONTINUE WITH IT.
NEITHER ONE OF YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
LET'S JUST, LET'S TO NOW I HAVE THE FLOOR RIGHT NOW AND PLEASE.
SO AS WAS STATED AT THAT, AT THAT MEETING WHEN ALL THE, ALL THE DIFFERENT COMMENTS WERE BEING MADE, AND SOMEONE EVEN ASKED HIM SAID, WAIT A MINUTE, THE MAYOR'S STANDING RIGHT BACK THERE.
WHY DON'T WE ASK HIM? NOPE, NOPE.
WE DON'T WANT TO HEAR ANYTHING, WE DON'T WANNA HEAR.
WE, AND THE BIG THING WAS WE WANT TO KEEP NATIONAL CITY OUT OF LINCOLN ACRES.
WE WANT YOU GUYS TO KEEP YOUR HANDS OFF OF THERE, WHICH I'M ALL FOR, WHICH I AM ALL FOR.
BUT I COULDN'T EVEN SAY ANYTHING THAT NIGHT.
I RESPECTED THAT IT WAS YOUR MEETING.
AND, UH, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT SHOULD GO THE OTHER WAY TOO.
IF LINCOLN ACRES WANTS TO KIND OF GET INVOLVED IN EVERYTHING THAT GOES ON IN NATIONAL CITY, IT, IT, IT CAN'T BE A ONE DIRECTION ONLY.
AND, UH, SO THERE'S A, UH, AND AS I SAY, BUT, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE BEING TOLD.
AND SO IT'S BEEN A VERY ONE SIDED DIRECTION.
WE WILL RESPECT AS A CITY, WE'LL RESPECT YOU.
I HAVE NO, I'VE NEVER HAD ANY THOUGHTS TOWARD ANNEXATION OF LINCOLN ACRES.
'CAUSE HE, HE, HE, HE PUSHED IT AT ONE TIME AND WE HAD TO DO AN ECONOMIC STUDY TO SHOW IT MADE NO SENSE FOR NATIONAL CITY TO EVER THINK ABOUT DOING IT.
AND, UH, SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO, UH, I DON'T WANNA DEAL WITH ISSUES IN LINCOLN ACRES, BUT I DON'T WANT PEOPLE FROM LINCOLN ACRES THINKING THAT THEN THEY CAN COME AND CONTROL OUR MEETINGS, OUR DECISIONS AND EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE CITY OF NASHVILLE CITY, EITHER NOW THEN WITH THAT, WE DO HAVE THIS LETTER, WHICH IS ASKING US TO DOWN ZONE A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT THEY DO NOT HAVE STANDING ON.
UH, WHICH MAKES FOR A VERY HIGHLY UNUSUAL CIRCUMSTANCE THAT I'VE NEVER HEARD ANY CITY HAVE TO EVER DEAL WITH.
UH, BUT WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURES THROUGH THE CHAIR? OKAY.
I, I, I BELIEVE WE GO BACK TO THE LETTER AND, UM, DIRECT OUR COUNSEL TO PROVIDE US A, UH, A UH, UM, A RESPONSE TO THIS LETTER.
SO THEN, UM, WE DO IT THE RIGHT WAY, NOT OFF TANGENT FROM THIS LETTER.
SO LET US, UH, LET US, UH, DIRECT OUR CITY ATTORNEY TO RESPOND TO THIS LETTER ACCORDINGLY, BASED ON THE FINDINGS FROM STAFF, THE, UM, THE, UM, INFORMATION THAT WE GOT FROM THE COMMUNITY AND THE, THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE UNDERLYING WITH THIS, WITH THIS, UM, WITH THIS PARCEL.
SO WE, WE WOULD HAVE TO GIVE CLEAR DIRECTION.
SO FOR ME, I'M ABSOLUTELY AGAINST THE PROPOSAL.
ARE YOU IN SUPPORTIVE OF DOWN ZONING THIS PROPERTY? I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT IT, WHAT IT'S GONNA COME TO.
LIKE, IF YOU WANT TO DISCUSS BASED ON THE, UH, BASED ON THE, UH, REPORT FROM, UM, FROM MR. READER THAT THIS WAS DONE BY, UM, BY THE INDIVIDUAL OR BY THE OWNER OF THE PARCEL.
MY RECOLLECTION WHEN THIS HAPPENED, WHEN I WAS SITTING AS A PLANNING COMMISSION, WAS IT WAS A, UH, A FOCUSED, UM, GENERAL PLAN UPDATE THAT CAME FROM THE DIOCESE THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, RECOMMENDED TO ABIDE THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, AND SO I WANTED TO SEE THAT IN WRITING, UM, BECAUSE IT, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I CANNOT, I CANNOT RECALL WHEN THAT HAPPENED.
I KNOW I WAS THERE SINCE 2019, I THINK 2017 WHEN IT HAPPENED, BUT I AM GUESSING RIGHT NOW.
SO I WANTED THOSE FACTS BEFORE WE CAN, YOU KNOW, SO I'M SURE OUR LEGAL COUNSEL ALSO GET ALL THOSE FACTS SO WE CAN, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, MAKE A GOOD RESPONSE TO THIS LETTER.
BUT ARE YOU IN FAVOR A OF THIS PROPOSAL TO DOWNLOW
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THE PROPERTY FROM MX D TWO TO, UM, RS RS TWO? I THINK I SAID THAT RIGHT.I HAVE NO POSSESSION RIGHT NOW, SIR.
I HAVE TO MAKE THOSE, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN THOSE FACTS.
CAN I, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF.
SO FOR STAFF, UH, SPECIFIC, UH, CARLOS AND MARTIN, UM, SO THERE WERE CLAIMS, UH, MADE BY THE REQUESTERS THAT THIS IS, THERE IS NO LOSS TO LAND LANDLORDS, THAT THIS IS NOT A DOWNLOW, THIS IS NOT A TAKING.
SO COULD YOU ALL, UH, RESPOND TO THAT, UM, ABOUT WHETHER THIS WOULD BE IN YOUR OPINIONS AND WHAT YOU'VE SEEN PROFESSIONALLY HERE IN NATIONAL CITY, A LOSS OR A, A TAKING THE, THE, THEIR PROPOSED DOWN ZONE? WELL, I MUST ADMIT, I'M JUST A SIMPLE PLANNER.
I'M NOT A REAL ESTATE EXPERT
UM, ALL I KNOW IS MY DISCUSSIONS WITH DEVELOPERS AND HAVING SEEN OTHER PROPERTIES COME UP FOR SALE.
AND THERE'S A, IN MY, UH, EXPERIENCE, THERE'S A MARKED DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, IN THIS CASE, NINE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES OR 58 INDIVIDUAL UNITS PLUS, UH, A NUMBER OF COMMERCIAL USES THAT COULD BE THERE AS UNDER MIXED USE.
SO THAT'S JUST BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE.
I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON, AND I, I DON'T DO, UH, EVALUATIONS OF PROPERTY.
I WOULD'VE TO DEPEND ON, ON PROFESSIONALS THAT DO, UH, THE VALUE OF THAT PROPERTY, WHETHER IT BE SINGLE FAMILY OR MIXED USE.
BUT IN, IN MY EXPERIENCE, THERE WOULD BE MORE THAN, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S SIGNIFICANT OR NOT, THAT DEPENDS ON WHO YOU'RE ASKING.
BUT TO ME, I WOULD SAY YES THROUGH THE CHAIR, WHAT ARE YOU FINISHED? AND THEN I THINK CARLOS SAID, OH, CARLOS, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? WE'D HAVE TO ANALYZE CARLOS, SECURITY DIRECTOR OF, UH, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
WE, WE WOULD HAVE TO ANALYZE THE TOTAL DENSITY.
BUT, UH, FOR THE MOST PART, USING THE INCOME APPROACH TO APPRAISING A PROPERTY, UH, IF IT'S MAKING MORE INCOME, IT'S WORTH MORE.
SO YOU WOULD ASSUME THAT A GAS STATION AND ALL THE OTHER USES THAT WERE PROPOSED WOULD MAKE MORE THAN HOW MANY UNITS? NINE, ABOUT NINE UNITS RENTED OUT, WHATEVER, IF THERE ARE TWO BEDROOM, ANYWHERE FROM 2,500 TO 3000, WHATEVER THE MARKET WOULD BE.
BUT IT'S, IT, WE WOULD NEED THE, WE WOULD NEED TO DO THE ANALYSIS.
BUT IN, IN THE GENERAL RULE OF THUMB IS IF YOU HAVE A HIGHER INTENSITY OF USE, AND IT'S A COMMERCIAL USE THERE, THE, THE, UH, IN BY INCOME APPROACH, IT, IT GENERATE, IT MAY GENERATE MORE.
AND, UH, AND THEN FOR, UM, OUR CITY CLERK, UM, SO WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF PAS ON THIS.
AND SO PART OF MY ISSUE, AND WHY I WANTED TO BRING THIS FORWARD IS BECAUSE THIS WHOLE DISCUSSION OVER A PROJECT THAT'S DEAD, EVEN THOUGH THERE'S BEEN SEVERAL LIES PUBLICLY, THAT YES, YOU LUISA HAVE TOLD, AND YOU MIKA HAVE TOLD LIES ABOUT THIS PROJECT NOT BEING ON HOLD, TELLING THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT IT IS CONTINUING, THE PROJECT IS DEAD.
THE GAS STATION PROJECT IS DEAD.
LUISA, YOU KNOW VERY WELL, YOU'VE COME TO MY HOUSE, I'VE COME TO YOUR HOUSE, AND YOU KNOW, I HAD CONCERNS ABOUT THE GAS STATION COMPONENT OF THE PROJECT, YOU KNOW, THAT I GUIDED YOU ON THE LAND USE AND ON WHAT OUR STAFF DID WELL, AND WHAT MAYBE WE COULD HAVE DONE BETTER ON THE PROJECT IS DEAD.
SO WHAT YOU'RE DOING, WHAT YOU AND MIKA ARE DOING IS VERY INAPPROPRIATE.
WHAT YOU ARE DOING AND WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN DOING ATTACKING STAFF, AND YOU HAVE BEEN ATTACKING STAFF, BLOWING UP PICTURES OF MARTIN OR RAILING JOSIE THROUGH THE MUD AND ATTACKING HER EVERY WAY, WHICH WAY YOU CAN.
AND I'VE ASKED THE STAFF, HAS JOSIE IN ANY WAY, JOSIE OR THE MAYOR INAPPROPRIATELY PUSHED YOU AND ASKED YOU, THEY SAID, NO, YOU GUYS HAVE NO EVIDENCE, HAVE NOT BROUGHT ANY EVIDENCE.
AND I WAS OPEN JUST FOR THE RECORD, I WAS OPEN TO YOUR CONCERNS.
DID THE MAYOR IMPROPERLY ADDRESS STAFF? THAT WAS A CONCERN OF MINE.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU GUYS ARE CONTINUING THIS UNLESS IT'S AN ATTEMPT TO EXTORT THE PROPERTY OWNER AND TRY TO TAKE THE PROPERTY FOR YOURSELVES.
AND THAT'S WHAT IT REALLY APPEARS.
AND THE WAY YOU'RE DOING IT IS POLITICAL.
IT'S, IT'S ABUSING THE PRA PROCESS.
IT'S EXHAUSTING US THROUGH THESE MEETINGS.
AND I DON'T THINK IT'S PROFESSIONAL.
I DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR LA VISTA AND MS. AVEDA AND MS. SANDY, I DO THINK YOU BOTH ARE SINCERE AND I WANT YOU BOTH TO KNOW WE ABSOLUTELY, I, YOU INTERVIEWED WITH ME.
I, I WAS HEARTFELT AND ALL OF MY FEARS AND CONCERNS ABOUT THE, ABOUT THE PROJECT THAT THAT'S THERE.
BUT WHAT ISN'T APPROPRIATE IS AFTER THE PROJECT IS DEAD, TO CONTINUE TO LIE ABOUT IT, TO CONTINUE TO HAVE PERSONAL TEXTS AGAINST STAFF, TO WEAPONIZE THINGS POLITICALLY AND TO CONTINUE
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THIS CHARADE.WE, WE WANT DEVELOPMENT IN OUR CITY.
WE WANT TO HAVE, UH, TO WORK WITH THE LINCOLN ACRES RESIDENTS, WORK WITH THE NATIONAL CITY RESIDENTS.
BUT IT'S, BUT IT'S ALSO NOT FAIR FOR AN OUTSIDE ENTITY FOR LINCOLN ACRES FOR FOLKS THERE TO SAY, DON'T, UH, AS, AS, UH, THE MAYOR POINTED OUT, KEEP AWAY, UH, NATIONAL CITY FROM ANNEXING LINCOLN ACRES, STAY OUT OF OUR LAND USE, BUT THEN TURN AROUND AND TELL US WHAT TO DO ON A PARCEL OF LAND THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER WANTED ZONED.
SO I HOPE THAT EVENTUALLY THIS, ALL THIS BACK AND FORTH.
IT'S, IT'S 11 O'CLOCK, SO WE SHOULDN'T BE DOING THIS.
BUT THIS HAS GOTTEN TO THIS POINT BECAUSE YOU GUYS KEEP BRINGING THIS, AND, AND THIS IS OUR RESPONSE, AND I THINK IT'S BEEN VERY UNPROFESSIONAL AND INAPPROPRIATE.
I THINK THERE'S BEEN, AND THERE STILL IS OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO SQUASH ALL THIS TO MOVE FORWARD.
LUISA, I'VE SHARED WITH YOU THAT WE CAN GET PAST ALL THIS, THAT LA VISTA BEFORE ALL OF THIS DRAMA STARTED, THAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE A LOT OF COMMUNITY EVENTS THAT I WOULD BE OPEN TO PARTNERING WITH YOU GUYS ON, ON, ON FESTIVALS, ON DE LOS MUTOS, ON US BEING COHESIVE, BUT CONTINUING TO DO THESE ATTACKS AND FILE LAWSUITS.
THAT'S REALLY NOT GETTING ANYONE, ANY, ANYWHERE.
SO WE HEARD AS A BODY, UM, WE, WELL, WE DIDN'T GET TO HEAR THE GAS STATION PART OF THE PROJECT, BUT THAT WAS ALREADY CANCELED.
SO THERE WAS SOME SUPPORT FOR YOUR GUYS' CONCERNS.
BUT YOU GUYS HAVE TAKEN THIS WAY TOO FAR.
YOU'RE EXHAUSTING STAFF, EXHAUSTING ME.
I THINK YOU'RE EXHAUSTING YOUR OWN RESOURCES, AND I THINK IT'S TIME FOR A DIRECTION.
THAT'S WHAT I WOULD ASK YOU ALL TO DO.
CHANGE DIRECTION ON, ON WHERE YOU'RE GOING IN YOUR APPROACH.
WHERE CAN WE WORK TOGETHER ON SOMETHING, NOT ALWAYS THESE ATTACKS AND BACK AND FORTH LAWSUITS.
OKAY? SO WE DO NEED TO GIVE SOME, UH, DIRECTION TO THE CITY ATTORNEY.
AND WHAT LEVEL OF DIRECTION WOULD YOU LIKE, I'M NOT SAYING WHAT DIRECTION, BUT WHAT LEVEL OF DIRECTION WOULD YOU LIKE? SO WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE WORKING WITH HERE, MR. I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER.
OH, OR OH, YOU, YOU, I'LL WAIT.
AND I DO HAVE A, UH, STATEMENT THAT I PREPARED, UH, IN RESPONSE TO THE LETTER THAT WAS PUT IN OUR, UM, STAFF REPORT.
AND IF YOU'LL ALLOW ME TO READ MY RESPONSE, I'LL BEGIN.
I AM INTERESTED TO KNOW WHAT YOU HOPE TO ACHIEVE BY RESTORING RS TWO ZONING TO THIS SITE.
DO YOU OR YOUR BUSINESS HAVE ANY CURRENT OR ANTICIPATED INTEREST IN DEVELOPING THIS PARCEL OR ADJACENT PROPERTIES, OR ARE YOU WORKING WITH A DEVELOPER OR GROUP WHO MAY HAVE FUTURE PLANS FOR THIS SITE? NEWS REPORTS MENTIONED A COMMUNITY DRIVEN ARCHITECTURAL PLAN THAT WAS CREATED FOR THIS SITE.
WAS THAT PLAN SHARED WITH CITY STAFF? AND COULD YOU CLARIFY HOW THAT CONCEPT RELATES TO THIS ZONING REQUEST? WAS THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN CREATED BY YOUR GROUP OR ARCHITECT SHARED WITH ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS PRIOR TO THIS MEETING? IF SO, WHEN AND WHERE, UH, WERE THERE ANY DISCUSSIONS OR BENEFITS OFFERED, OR ENDORSEMENTS OR GIFTS? UH, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR INVITING ME TO THE MEMORIAL DAY CELEBRATION.
IT TRULY WAS MEANINGFUL AND WONDERFUL TO BE WITH COMMUNITY, TO BE IN AN EVENT THAT YOU PUT TOGETHER TO HONOR OUR VETERANS.
UM, I DID NOTICE, I DID NOTICE THAT IN THE EVENT PROGRAM THAT YOU PRINTED, THERE WAS A DIRECT APPEAL SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSED TO ME AND COUNT, UH, VICE MAYOR BUSH ADVOCATING FOR THE ZONING CHANGE.
UM, I WAS A LITTLE SURPRISED TO SEE THAT ONLY TWO MEMBERS OF THIS DAAS WERE NAMED ON THAT, UH, VETERAN'S DAY, UH, UH, FLYER FOR, FOR THIS COMMUNITY EVENT.
COULD YOU SHARE WHY THAT APPEAL WAS DIRECTED ONLY TO THE TWO OF US? AND HAVE YOU HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, OR THE MAYOR ABOUT THIS REQUEST, EITHER IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION? ARE THEY IN S OR OR ARE THOSE THAT AREN'T NAMED OR WEREN'T NAMED IN THAT FLYER IN SUPPORT? AND THAT IS WHY THEY WEREN'T NAMED ON THAT VETERAN'S DAY FLYER.
THIS COUNCIL HAS AN OBLIGATION TO MAKE DECISIONS WITH THE INTEREST OF THE ENTIRE
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CITY.AND HERE IS MY THOUGHT PROCESS FOR THIS SPECIFIC DECISION.
THIS PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE WOULD SET A NEGATIVE PRECEDENT AND WOULD CREATE LEGAL EXPOSURE FOR THE CITY.
I AM NOT SUPPORTIVE OF THIS PROPOSAL AT THIS TIME.
I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF TAXING OUR STAFF ANY FURTHER WITH THIS PROJECT THAT INCLUDES PERFORMING ANY KIND OF ANALYSIS OR RESPONSE BEYOND WHAT IS BEING COMMUNICATED TONIGHT.
THAT SAID, IF THE CURRENT PROPERTY OWNER WERE TO COME BEFORE US WITH A FORMAL REQUEST ALIGNED WITH THEIR DEVELOPMENT GOALS, THEN I THINK THAT WOULD MERIT A VERY DIFFERENT KIND OF DISCUSSION.
ONE, GROUNDED IN FAIRNESS, PROPERTY RIGHTS, AND LONG-TERM PLANNING CONSISTENCY.
AND I AM OPEN TO HAVING THAT DISCUSSION SHOULD THE CURRENT PROPERTY OWNER COME BEFORE US WITH SUCH A PETITION.
OKAY, SO THAT MEMBER RODRIGUEZ, MAY I JUST SAY, I'M, I'M BAFFLED BY THIS ENTIRE CONVERSATION, OF COURSE, BECAUSE MR. MAYOR, YOU DECIDED TO PUT THIS ITEM ON THE AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION, KNOWING FULL WELL YOUR INTENT, WHICH WAS NOT TO TRY TO FIND A RESOLUTION TO THE ITEM, BUT IT SEEMS TO ONLY INCITE THE INDIVIDUALS.
YOU KNOW, IN A DEMOCRACY IN GOVERNMENT, THERE'S A CASE TO BE MADE IN THE PUBLIC.
WE SHOULD NOT BE UTILIZING OUR POSITIONS HERE ON THE DAAS AS A BULLY PULPIT OR OUR POSITION ON AN ITEM.
YOU HAVE A POSITION ON THE ISSUE YOU DISAGREE WITH THE PROPONENTS GO AND MAKE THAT IN THE NEWS.
GO ON FACEBOOK, GO ON INSTAGRAM, GO ON TWITTER.
WHATEVER MEANS YOU FIND TO SPREAD YOUR MESSAGE.
BUT IT SHOULDN'T BE FROM HERE.
IT FEELS LIKE, IT FEELS LIKE SHIELDING YOURSELF WITH THE CITY AND THE CITY RESOURCES.
IF I, I GENUINELY THOUGHT THAT THIS WAS ON THE AGENDA TO TRY TO FIND A MEDIATION TO AN ISSUE, WHICH HAS BEEN HAUNTING US FOR SIX MONTHS.
BUT JUDGING BY THE, UM, ACTIONS AND WORDS, I DON'T FEEL LIKE THAT WAS THE INTENT AT ALL.
AND THIS FEELS LIKE A WASTE OF TIME.
SO I IT IS WHAT IT'S, I'M, I'M JUST, I WANT TO GO HOME.
SO WHAT'S YOUR PROPOSAL, JOSE? WELL, CLEARLY THERE'S THREE VOTES TO NOT DO ANYTHING.
WELL, WHAT'S YOUR IDEA OR PROPOSAL? MY IDEA IS TO NOT UTILIZE THIS ISSUE AS A BULLY PULPIT.
AND IF ONE WANTS TO MAKE THE ARGUMENT, GO AND MAKE IT IN THE PUBLIC.
GO ON FACEBOOK LIVE, GO KNOCK ON DOORS, GO ENGAGE PEOPLE, DON'T DO IT FROM HERE.
OKAY? PLEASE, THAT WOULD JUST BE MY SINCERE REQUEST FROM MY COLLEAGUES.
DON'T BRING UP ITEMS WHEN YOU DON'T REALLY HAVE AN INTENT TO ACTUALLY SOLVE 'EM.
DO YOU WANT TO DOWN ZONE THE PROPERTY? I MEAN, I DON'T HEAR ANYTHING SUBSTANTIVE FROM YOU, JOSE.
THIS IS WHY I SUSPECT A LOT OF THIS IS POLITICAL AND DRIVEN BY YOU.
SO PLEASE, BY ALL MEANS, TELL ME PLEASE, THIS ITEM ON THE AGENDA, COUNCIL MEMBER.
BUT TELL ME, YOU ALL DID, I DID NOT BRING THIS FORWARD.
WHAT YOU, BUT WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO WITH THIS? WHAT, WHAT WOULD BE YOUR IDEA? WHAT IS YOUR SOLUTION? HOW DO YOU, YOU WON'T WRAP THIS UP.
IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE YOU ALL WANT TO MEDIATE.
I THINK WE SHOULD BE WILLING TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.
BUT, BUT THAT IS OF THE, THAT IS WHAT THE MAJORITY WOULD SAY, BUT IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE THAT'S THE CASE TO ME.
WE'RE HAVING THE DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW.
THE PROPOSAL IS TO DOWN ZONE THIS PROPERTY, YOU KNOW THIS.
DO YOU WANT TO DO THAT? YES OR NO, JOSE? SO AGAIN, I REITERATE, I THOUGHT THE POINT OF HAVING THIS CONVERSATION WAS FOR US TO GET TO THAT POINT, BUT IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE THAT'S THE CASE.
OKAY? NOW, IF THE MAJORITY OF THE COUNSEL WANT TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION AND HAVE STAFF LOOK INTO IT, I WOULD BE OPEN TO THAT.
BUT IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE THAT WAS THE CASE.
IT FEELS LIKE THIS WAS A WASTE OF TIME.
BUT IF, IF, IF, IF I, IF I COMPLETELY MISSED THE CONVERSATION RIGHT NOW AND THE 20 MINUTE RANT, AND, AND, AND MAYBE I DID THEN, AND IF THE MAJORITY WANT TO ACTUALLY GO THAT DOWN THAT DIRECTION, I THINK THAT WOULD BE WISE.
THIS ISN'T A, YOU DIDN'T EVEN DISCUSS.
UH, YEAH, WELL, YOU, YOU JUST MENTIONED THAT THIS SHOULD BE FOR, UH, TO MEDIATE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A PIECE OF PROPERTY, THE MEDIATION, IT GOES THROUGH THE PLANNING PROCESS.
IT GOES BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
IT COMES BEFORE THE COUNCIL THINGS.
THERE'S WHERE YOU MEDIATE WHAT TO DO WITH A PIECE OF PROPERTY, BUT YOU DO IT WITH THE APPLICANT.
YOU DON'T DO IT WITH PEOPLE THAT DO NOT HAVE STANDING.
YOU MENTIONED A MOMENT AGO THAT I'M INCITING.
10 MINUTES AGO YOU SAID I WAS PUTTING HIM TO SLEEP, BUT NOW YOU'RE SAYING I'M INCITING HIM.
I'M NOT TOO SURE WHICH I'M DOING.
BUT, YOU KNOW, SO, BUT THIS IS WHAT, THIS IS THE RHETORIC, AND I'M GONNA REMEMBER SOME OF THE
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STATEMENTS YOU JUST MADE ABOUT USING, UH, THE PUBLIC RESOURCES FOR BULLY PULPIT AND WE'LL, WE'LL REMEMBER THOSE IN THE FUTURE.UM, BUT, UH, BUT YEAH, I AGREE.
YOU KNOW, I THINK WE HAVE WASTED WAY TOO MUCH TIME.
THIS LETTER IS SOMETHING THAT MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE AT ALL IN ANY PLANNING PROCESS.
AND, UH, UH, AND AS I SAY, I ONLY JUST SAW IT BECAUSE IT WAS NOT SENT TO THE MAYOR.
IT WAS ONLY SENT TO THE FOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS.
AND, UH, UM, BUT I JUST SAW IT ON FRIDAY, I GUESS WHEN WE GOT OUR AGENDAS.
UM, SO I, I I'M NOT SURE IF THE CITY ATTORNEY IS LOOKING FOR A MOTION.
I SEE, UH, COUNCIL BRING, ARMANI HAS SOMETHING TO SAY AS WELL.
BUT, UM, SO I'M FINE WITH NO DIRECTION ON THIS OR I'M FINE WITH DIRECTING YOU TO WRITE A FORMAL LETTER TO SAY NO IF OUR, IF WE TAKE A, A VOTE ON THAT, BUT I'M NOT SUPPORTIVE OF THE DOWN SUM.
UM, I, I THINK THAT WOULD'VE BEEN THE RIGHT DIRECTION OR THE RIGHT APPROACH WAS TO RESPOND TO THIS LETTER BASED ON THE FINDINGS THAT YOU WERE SAYING, MR. MAYOR, THAT IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE OWNER WHO HAD, WHO SHOULD HAVE REQUESTED IT AND, AND NOT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, PUT IT IN THE AGENDA AND PLAY IT OFF THIS WAY.
COUNCIL MEMBER MOLINA HAS SEVERAL QUESTIONS IN HER DIRECT, IN HER COMMENT.
WHAT, WHAT DID HAPPEN THERE? WHO DID THIS? WHAT IS THE VALUE THERE? YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THERE ARE QUESTIONS ALSO ON HER COMMENTS, RIGHT? THAT MAYBE SHE WOULD LIKE ANSWERED OR NOT, I DON'T KNOW.
BUT I THINK THE DIRECTION WOULD HAVE BEEN WE RECEIVED THE LETTER.
MAYOR, YOU SAID SEVERAL TIMES YOU WERE NOT A PARTY TO THE LETTER.
BUT I KNOW ONCE WHEN I RECEIVED THE LETTER, I FORWARDED IT RIGHT AWAY TO OUR LEGAL COUNSEL FOR, FOR US TO SAY, OKAY, FIND OUT IF THIS IS DOABLE OR NOT.
AND THEN WE COULD HAVE SENT A LETTER INSTEAD OF PLAYING IT HERE ON THE DICE.
BECAUSE JUST LIKE I SAID, YOU ALREADY HAVE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THERE ARE SEVERAL SITUATIONS IN THE CITY THAT PROPERTY OWNERS WILL COME TO US, EVEN WHEN I WAS IN PLANNING COMMISSION TO UPGRADE THEIR ZONING JUST SO THEY CAN BUILD.
BUT THEN LOOK AT THAT CORNER LOT ON 16TH AND, AND NATIONAL CITY BOULEVARD.
THEY SAID, OH, THEY'RE GONNA DEVELOP, BUT THEN, UM, THEY DIDN'T.
SO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THESE ARE THE SITUATIONS THAT HAPPENING, BUT THIS LETTER IS A REQUEST WE COULD HAVE JUST SAID, DUE TO THIS, AND THAT CANNOT HAPPEN INSTEAD OF US DOING THIS.
I, I THINK THE ONLY DIFFERENCE, AND I'M GONNA GO BACK OVER TO MEMBER MOLINA, UM, THE, UH, THE DIFFERENCE IS THE SAME REQUEST HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP HERE, NOT ONLY IN THIS LETTER, BUT CONSTANTLY COMING BEFORE THE, UH, AT THE PULPIT HERE AND, YOU KNOW, AND HAVING A BUNCH OF THEIR DIFFERENT, UH, OH, UH, EMPLOYEES COMING UP AND READING OFF THE SAME THING, SAYING, THIS IS THE CURE FOR IT IS DOING THIS, DOING THIS.
SO IT DID, DID NEED, IT HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP PUBLICLY MANY, MANY TIMES.
NOT JUST IN A CERTIFIED LETTER, BUT ALSO PUBLICLY AND JUST TIME AND TIME AND TIME AGAIN.
IT'D BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW MANY TIMES THAT HAS BEEN STATED IN THE LAST TWO MONTHS.
SO THEREFORE IT NEEDED, IT NEEDED A PUBLIC RESPONSE.
UM, MEMBER MOLINA, YOU, WAS THAT THE, I I'M TOO SURE WHAT YOU WERE SAYING IF THAT WAS IN THE FORM OF A MOTION OR WHAT WE DO.
IS THE MOTION NECESSARY? LET'S LOOK TO THE CITY ATTORNEY NOW AND SEE WHAT, WHAT KIND OF DIRECTION HE'S LOOKING FOR.
NOT THE DIRECTION, BUT WHAT KIND OF DIRECTION? UM, LET ME, LET ME BE CLEAR.
I'M NOT LOOKING FOR ANYTHING
UM, THIS IS THIS, YOU ARE THE DECISION MAKERS.
UM, THE LETTER IS ADDRESSED TO YOU.
UM, YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION AND PUT THIS TO BED TONIGHT WITHOUT ANYTHING FROM MY OFFICE.
UM, SO I'M NOT LOOKING FOR ANY DIRECTION.
OKAY? UM, I THINK YOU HAVE THEM HERE.
THEY'VE HEARD WHAT YOU HAD TO SAY.
UM, AND YOU CAN CHOOSE TO LEAVE IT AT THAT, OR YOU CAN CHOOSE TO MAKE A FORMAL MOTION TO NOT RESPOND TO THE LETTER OR TO DENY THEIR REQUEST.
AND, AND, AND WE WOULD BE DONE WITH IT THROUGH THE CHAIR.
THROUGH THE CHAIR, OKAY? BECAUSE IT WAS DONE PROPERLY IN A BUSINESS MANNER THAT THEY HAD SENT US A LETTER, UM, EMAILED, UM, UM, CERTIFIED, UM, WITH THE RETURN RECEIPT, I BELIEVE.
I THINK IT'S JUST PRUDENT FOR US, AND IT'S AN HONORABLE THING TO DO TO RESPOND TO THIS LETTER, WHATEVER IT IS THAT THIS, THAT THIS AGENCY BASED ON THE FACTS THAT WE HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO, TO DO THAT.
OKAY? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO REJECT THE, UH, REQUEST TO DOWN ZONE THE PROPERTY.
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OKAY? DO YOU HAVE A SECOND FOR THAT? SAY THAT AGAIN.I'LL MAKE A REQUEST TO REJECT THE REQUEST TO DOWN ZONE THE PROPERTY.
IN RESPONSE TO, UH, DIET'S, UH, A DESIRE FOR A LETTER, SOME RESPONSE.
SO THAT WAY THERE'S A CLEAR MOTION.
SO THAT'S A, THAT'S THE LETTER THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WOULD PROVIDE, OR IT DOESN'T FOR ME.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE LETTER, IT IS JUST, IT'S A RESPONSE THAT WE AS A COUNCIL REJECTED IT TO.
AND THAT WAS IN RESPONSE TO WHAT, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER YAMANI REQUESTED THAT WE HAVE RESPONSE.
DOESN'T HAVE TO BE IN FORMAL LETTER.
IT CAN BE FORM OF THE, THAT'S JUST THE MOTION ITSELF IS A RESPONSE.
WHAT? THAT, ISN'T THAT WHAT YOU WERE SAYING? CORRECT.
I'M NOT, I'M NOT IN THE POSITION TO MAKE A DECISION BECAUSE I NEED ANSWERS FROM THOSE QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS FROM QUESTIONS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I HAVE, I MAY HAVE TO GO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED THEN BASED ON WHAT MR. MARTIN REER AND OUR, UH, DIRECTOR GARY IS, UH, IS, UH, UM, HAS SAID THANK YOU.
ALRIGHT, WELL WE HAVE A MOTION.
ALRIGHT, UH, NEXT, GET BACK OVER HERE TO THE BEGINNING AGAIN.
THINK THIS REPORTS, NO, UH, NO, ACTUALLY WE DON'T, WE STILL HAVE, UH, GENERAL COMMENTS.
COMMENTS, LEFTOVER GENERAL COMMENTS.
UH, WE WILL DO THOSE THAT ARE IN AUDIENCE FIRST AND THEN WE WILL DO THE ZOOM.
UH, ALICIA MORRISON BE FOLLOWED BY ALEXIS RALPH, I'M NOT TOO SURE HOW SPELL, SAY THAT LAST NAME.
UM, ALICIA MORRISON STILL ISN'T STILL, SHE SPOKE, HUH? UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT.
SHE, HUH? SHE SPOKE UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT ALREADY.
DID SHE? DID YOU SPEAK UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT EARLIER? WHY? I SPOKE ON 11 FOUR? YEAH, SHE WAS ON 11 FOUR, YES.
YEAH, YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING.
SO YOU HAVE NO DESIRE TO ANNEX LINCOLN ACRES, SO I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU AMEND THE LAND USE ELEMENT SECTION WHERE YOU HAVE TALKED ABOUT LINCOLN ACRES BE IN THE SPHERE OF INFLUENCE THAT YOU ALL ADOPTED MARCH 29TH, 2024.
IF YOU HAVE NO DESIRE IN ANNEXING LINCOLN ACRES, IT DOES NOT BELONG IN YOUR LAND USE ELEMENT.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT YOU PUT THAT ON YOUR AGENDA TO AMEND THAT.
IF YOU HAVE NO DESIRE TO ANNEX LINCOLN ACRES.
HE'S THE ONE THAT'S CIRCULATING THE PETITION.
I'M NOT CIRCULATING ANY PETITION.
WE HAVE RESIDENTS IN NATIONAL CITY THAT WANNA DETACH FROM NATIONAL CITY AND COME BACK TO LINCOLN ACRES.
THEY WANT, IF THEY WANT TO, FINE, OKAY? THEY WILL, THEY GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.
BUT SPHERE OF INFLUENCE DOES NOT MEAN, DOES NOT MEAN THAT YOU ARE, YOU'RE DEALING WITH IT.
WE HAVE SPHERE OF INFLUENCE IN CHULA VISTA, BOTH AREAS THAT WE BORDER ON WITH CHULA VISTA.
WE ARE CONSIDERED THAT SPHERE OF INFLUENCE AND THEY ARE WITH US.
THAT IS JUST A TECHNICAL TERM THAT DOES NOT MEAN ANYTHING TO DEAL WITH ANNEXATION.
SO THEN TAKE US OUTTA YOUR, YOUR LAND USE ELEMENT.
WELL, WE'RE STILL DOWN IN SPHERE OF INFLUENCE, BUT NOT DEALING WITH ANNEXATION.
IT TALKS ABOUT ANNEXATION IN THAT SPHERE OF INFLUENCE.
YOU PUT US IN YOUR GENERAL PLAN FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.
ALEXIS ROLFE? YEAH, SHE GONNA CHARGE FOR THAT CLAP.
UH, MARIA JEFFERSON, THE GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 4 9 5 4 0.3 PROHIBITS THE GOVERNMENT ENTITIES AND THEIR COUNCIL MEMBERS FROM RETALIATING AGAINST THE PUBLIC FOR DARING TO SPEAK CRITICISM.
IT STATES SECTION C, THE LEGISLATIVE BODY OF A LOCAL AGENCY SHALL NOT PROHIBIT PUBLIC CRITICISM OF THE ACTS OR OMISSIONS OF THE LEGISLATIVE BODY.
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THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WENT ON HERE TONIGHT AND HAS BEEN GOING ON.YOUR, UH, MAYOR, YOU USED WORDS LIKE CIRCUS AND IT'S CHILDISH WHAT, UH, THE CRITICIZERS ARE OF WHAT THIS NATIONAL CITY IS DOING.
COUNCIL MEMBER BUSH, FROM THE DAY YOU ARE CALLING PEOPLE NAMES, POINTING AND CALLING PEOPLE NAMES, YOU'RE CON YOUR CONSTITUENTS CALLING NAMES USING WORDS OF ACCUSING THEM OF EXTORTION.
DON'T ASK ME A QUESTION 'CAUSE I'M NOT GONNA ANSWER IT.
DO NOT INTERFERE WITH MY TIME.
THERE WAS A COMPLETE LACK OF DECORUM AND RESPECT HERE.
I CAN, I'VE NEVER WITNESSED SUCH A THING IN ANY PUBLIC MEETING I'VE BEEN IN.
NOW, YOU KNOW WHAT IS A CIRCUS? AND I HAVE, UH, THE DEPOSITION NOTICES.
MAYOR, YOU TOOK YOUR ASSISTANT ON THE DAY SHE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE DEPOSED UNDER THE, THE, AND HER EXCUSE FOR NOT COMING WAS THAT SHE HAD TO TEND TO HER HUSBAND HAVING SURGERY, YET YOU TOOK HER TO AN EVENT HAVING BRUNCH THAT DAY.
OKAY? AND THERE'S PHOTOS OF IT.
I'M SHOWING HERE A SIXTH AMENDED NOTICE OF DEPOSITION.
THIS IS THE SEVENTH DATE FOR WHICH SHE IS SET.
THE ONLY CIRCUS IS THE WAY YOU TREAT THE PUBLIC RECORDS ACT AND THE LAWS THAT GOVERN YOU.
IS SHE GOING TO SHOW UP ON JUNE 25 OR ARE YOU GONNA WHISK HER AWAY AGAIN? OR IS SHE GOING TO HAVE SOME OTHER EXCUSE COMPLY WITH THE LAW.
AND WE WILL COMPLY WITH THE LAW WHETHER IF YOU LIKE IT OR NOT.
NOW THAT, UH, ALEXANDER
THE FORMER CITY MANAGER ADMITTED HE MET WITH THE BRIOS ON THE DAY OF THE FLOODING JANUARY 20, 24, AS WELL AS YOURSELF, MR. MAYOR.
THERE NO CALENDAR ENTRIES HAVE BEEN PROVIDED BY THE PRAS THAT WE REQUESTED.
THERE ARE STILL MISSING TEXT MESSAGES AS A TEXT CHAIN BETWEEN THE MAYOR'S ASSISTANT, THE MAYOR, THE CITY MA, THE FORMER CITY MANAGER, AS WELL AS THE BARCOS REQUESTING A, UH, MEETING ON OCTOBER 23RD AND SAYING, IS ANYONE FROM PLANNING GOING TO BE THERE? ALL BETWEEN THESE INDIVIDUALS? WE ARE MISSING THESE CALENDARED ENTRIES IN THE CITY SYSTEM AS WELL AS THE REST OF THE TEXT MESSAGES.
SO PLEASE HAVE THE DECORUM AND RESPOND TO THE PRAS AND HAVE TRANSPARENCY IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
AYE MICHAEL LEG IN OUR SYSTEM, WE GET TO THE TRUTH BY TAKING DEPOSITIONS UNDER OATH, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO.
COUNCILMAN MEUSE, YOU MAKING ACCUSATIONS TODAY? YOU DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WHEN YOU SAW EVIDENCE THAT THERE WAS WRONGDOING WITH REGARD TO THE MAYOR JOIE WRONGDOING.
AND THEN YOU HAVE REALLY UNPROFESSIONALLY ATTACKED CONSTITUENTS.
AND THIS, THIS GENTLEMAN HERE IS REALLY NOT FIT TO BE SERVING ON A CITY COUNCIL.
AND MAYOR, FOR YOU NOT TO MAINTAIN DECORUM BEING THE MAYOR MEANS THAT YOU DON'T NECESSARILY, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A SAYING, I TOTALLY DISAGREE WITH YOU, BUT I WOULD DIE FOR YOU TO PROTECT YOUR RIGHT TO HAVE FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION.
YOU MAKE YOU PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG, DISHONOR THE FLAG BY DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE IMPARTIAL, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO TAKE IT, YOU'RE IN THE KITCHEN, IT'S HOT.
MAYOR, YOU TESTIFIED UNDER OATH THAT THE IT DEPARTMENT KEEPS A COMPLETE RECORD OF YOUR TEXT MESSAGES AND RON WILLIAMS SAID, NO, YOU LIED UNDER OATH, YOU DON'T CARE.
YOU DIDN'T TURN OVER YOUR TEXT MESSAGES AND THEN YOU HAVE YOUR ASSISTANT MAKE A MOCKERY OUT OF THE JUSTICE SYSTEM.
SHE DOESN'T COME TO HER DEPOSITIONS FOR SIX DIFFERENT TIMES.
AND THEN TONIGHT SHE TELLS, UM, SOMEONE THAT SHE MIGHT NOT COME TO THE NEXT ONE JUST A ON HER WHIM.
THIS IS NOT THE WAY YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO RUN
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A CITY.THIS IS NOT SUPPOSED, THIS ISN'T THE WAY YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO ACT AS A MAYOR AND MR. CITY ATTORNEY, I APPRECIATE YOUR PROFESSIONALISM, I REALLY DO THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT.
ALRIGHT, NEXT WE GO WITH, UH, LOUISA MCCARTHY.
I DON'T LIKE TO TALK BEHIND PEOPLE'S BACKS, SO I'M GLAD JOSIE'S HERE.
NOW WE KNOW NOT ONLY DID JOSIE ASK TO FALSIFY HER NEPHEW'S DEATH CERTIFICATE AS MOTHER, WHEN IN ACTUALITY SHE'S THE AUNT, SHE OPENED A PROBATE FOR HER NEPHEW'S ASSETS, BUT DIDN'T GIVE NOTICE TO OTHER AUNTS WHO ARE AT THE SAME LEVEL OF THE FAMILY TREE AS HER.
WHY IS THAT? WHY IS SHE TRYING TO GET, WHAT IS SHE TRYING TO GET FOR HERSELF? WHAT IS SHE TRYING TO KEEP AWAY FROM OTHER ANTS? WELL, THEY'LL TAKE CARE OF THAT.
MARCUS, I DON'T APPRECIATE YOUR DISRESPECT YOUR OUTBURST DURING OUR TIME AT THE MIC.
WHAT IS MOST DISTURBING IS YOUR CLAIMING TO CARE ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE WHEN YOUR ACTIONS SAY OTHERWISE, I SUPPORTED YOU AND JUST LIKE I SUPPORTED YOU, I'LL EXERCISE MY RIGHT TO RECALL YOU.
MIKA, MYSELF AND OUR COALITION ARE NOT YOUR GUYS' A JOKE.
OUR TIME IS VALUABLE AND IF WE DON'T SEE IMMEDIATE CHANGE TO BENEFIT THE PEOPLE, WE WILL BE HERE SERVING YOU.
COUNCIL MEMBER YANET, I AM VERY SORRY THE MAYOR LACKS TO MAINTAIN ORDER WITH MR. NIETO RAISING HIS VOICE AT YOU THAT WAS SO DISRESPECTFUL AND SO WEAK ON HIS PART.
THE CIRCUS MAYOR THAT YOU CLAIM THAT WE BRING, YOU'RE THE RINGLEADER OF THIS CIRCUS BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAPPEN BACK HERE THAT ARE WRONG AND YOU KNOW IT.
AND I CANNOT WAIT TO GO TO TRIAL AND MAKE SURE THAT WE GET EVERYTHING OUT IN THE OPEN.
I HAD 15 YEARS OF FRIENDSHIP WITH YOU.
I DIDN'T KNOW YOU, I DIDN'T KNOW YOUR ASSISTANT EITHER.
THE KIND OF CALIBER, LOW-END KIND OF PEOPLE THAT YOU HAVE BECOME.
AND YOUR INTEGRITY, YOU HAVE NONE.
YOU CAN SAY ALL YOU WANT, YOU ARE, BUT 33 YEARS IS WAY TOO MANY.
ALRIGHT, NEXT WE GO WITH MIKA POCO.
WE NEED TO EXTEND THE MEETING AGAIN.
UH, YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT, WE DO.
CAN WE HAVE A MOTION TO EXTEND MOTION EXTEND 1145 SECOND MOTION AND A SECOND COME UP PLEASE VOTE.
COUNCIL MEMBER YAMANI, CAN YOU VOTE PLEASE? DID NOT FOR 15, I'M SORRY.
UM, I HAVE THREE, BASICALLY THREE THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT.
THE FIRST THING IS, UH, JOSIE'S HERE TONIGHT.
AND I'M SURE GLAD TO SEE THAT SHE'S FEELING BETTER BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE FIFTH, SIXTH TIME THAT WE'VE BEEN, SHE'S BEEN DISHING THE DE DEPOSITIONS AS YOU A LOT OF THEM.
UH, YOU KNOW, AND WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET PUBLIC RECORDS AND LIKE WE'VE SAID MANY TIMES BEFORE, THE REASON WHY WE WANT THIS PUBLIC RECORDS IS BECAUSE OF WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO HAPPEN AGAIN.
THERE SHOULD BE IN YOUR OWN, UH, POLICIES THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR OWN PLEDGE OF IN THE CITY, IN YOUR OWN PLEDGE.
YOU HAVE THAT, YOU HAVE THE, YOU WILL BE COMMUNICATING HONESTLY, AND THAT YOU WILL BE COMMUNICATING.
WE, WE COMMUNICATE OPENLY HONESTY WITH CLEAR, CONSISTENT MESSAGES.
NONE OF WHAT YOU DID WITH THIS PROJECT, MAYOR OR JOSIE WAS HONEST, IT WAS VERY DECEPTIVE.
YOU ALLOWED MARTIN READER TO LIE.
FOR, FOR YOU, YOU ALLOWED A WELSH TO LIFE FOR YOU.
AND YOU KNOW IT, YOU CAN LAUGH ALL YOU WANT.
YEAH, YOU CAN PLAY IT OFF ALL YOU WANT.
AND MARCUS CAN GO ALONG WITH YOU AND SO CAN LOOSE AND SO CAN DITAS AND, AND SO CAN, CAN BARRY AND JOSE AND WHOEVER WANTS TO, WE KNOW THE TRUTH.
WE'VE DONE THE DEPOSITIONS, WE'VE GOT THE RECORDS.
WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE RECORDS, BUT WE GOT A LOT OF THE RECORDS.
AND THE RECORDS WILL SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES AND THE JUDGE WILL KNOW THE TRUTH.
RIGHT NOW YOU'RE TRYING TO HIDE IN THE DARKNESS.
BUT ONCE WE PUT THAT FLASHLIGHT, YOU WILL KNOW WE EVERYBODY'S GONNA KNOW THE TRUTH.
AND MARCUS, WE ARE GONNA RECALL YOU AND, UH, AND, AND MAYOR, WE ARE NOT GONNA VOTE FOR YOU.
AND I'M GONNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE GOOD GOVERNANCE IN
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NATIONAL CITY.AND THESE PEOPLE CAN STAND BEHIND ME AND SAY, WE'RE, WE'RE FROM OUT OF TOWN.
HOW COME NOBODY TALKS ABOUT THAT.
UH, SANDY SHEER, YOU SAID MY NAME, CORRECT? TWICE IN A ROW.
WOULDN'T IT BE NICE IF WE JUST GOT ALONG? UM, ALL I CAN SAY IS THIS.
AND I WANNA LOOK AT EVERY ONE OF YOUR EYEBALLS, OKAY? THIS IS NOT JUST AMIKA AND LOUISA THING.
THIS IS A GROUP OF RESIDENTS, PEOPLE LIKE THE MORRISONS PEOPLE THAT I'VE GOTTEN TO KNOW IN THE AREA AS A HISTORIAN.
AND YOU KEEP POINTING THAT THIS IS AIKA LOUISA THING, AND IT'S NOT IF IT WERE JUST THE ONE PLACE UP THERE WITH THE ROAD, I GET IT, BUT IT'S MORE THAN THAT.
AND, AND RON, YOU MADE, CAN I CALL YOU RON? YOU GO WHEREVER YOU WANT.
YOU MADE A COMMENT WHERE YOU SAID, WELL, THERE'S A SEVEN 11 WITH LIQUOR.
THIS IS WHAT THE WORLD IS ABOUT.
BUT KIDS KNOW BETTER THAN TO GO IN THERE AND BUY IT.
IT'S A VERY INCREDIBLE PLACE WHEN YOU'RE THERE ON THIS MAGICAL PIECE OF LAND THAT THE KIMBALL'S HAD AND YOU WENT THERE ON, ON, ON, UH, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? UM, I'M USING TIME HERE.
YOU, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE WENT FOR MEMORIAL DAY, WASN'T IT MAGICAL? WASN'T IT WONDERFUL? WOULDN'T YOU HAVE LIKED TO SEE IT RESIDENTIAL INSTEAD OF ALL THIS BICKERING BACK AND FORTH PLAYING TENNIS WITH THE CRAZIEST BALL YOU CAN IMAGINE? I REALLY THINK IT'S A MATTER OF TAKING A STEP BACK AND THINKING ABOUT ALL THE PEOPLE.
AND MY ONE COMMENT TODAY WAS, WHY AREN'T THE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE IN THAT AREA NOT HERE? WHY IS THAT? AND I THINK THAT'S GONNA CHANGE.
I THINK WHEN YOU CAN SEE THE EYEBALLS OF ALL THE PEOPLE NEEDING TO COME HERE TO FIGHT FOR THEIR LAND SO THAT IT CAN BE RESIDENTIAL, IF THAT EVEN CAN HAPPEN.
I DON'T THINK SHE'S HERE ANYMORE.
UH, DOYLE MORRISON, YOU GET TO FINISH OFF THE NIGHT.
WHAT EXCEPTION OF THE, UM, THE ZOOMERS? WE MAY HAVE TO DO THAT.
ALL SEVERAL HOURS AGO, SOMEONE GOT UP AND SPOKE AND THAT'S WHEN I WROTE THIS, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT OUT.
AND I PUT THAT, I PUT THIS PUBLIC COMMENT IN AFTER AN INDIVIDUAL SPOKE TO EXCLUDE NON-NATIONAL CITY RESIDENTS FROM THIS DEMOCRATIC PROCESS.
I HOPE THIS DIOCESE DOESN'T FEEL THE SAME WAY.
BUT AFTER THE COMMENTS FROM THE MAYOR AND THE VICE MAYOR THAT I HEARD, AT LEAST I THINK I HEARD IT, THAT WE'RE NOT EVEN FROM NATIONAL CITY.
I THINK THAT MAYBE PART OF THE DIOCESE FEELS THAT WAY TOO.
THAT THE LINCOLN ACRES RESIDENT SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO COME AND SPEAK HERE, EVEN THOUGH WE ARE WITHIN THE SPHERE OF INFLUENCE.
EVEN THE TWO PROPERTIES BEFORE THEY GOT ANNEX WERE PREZONED AS MR. MARTIN REEDER.
WELL, HE WENT HOME AND WENT TO SLEEP, UM, AS HE SAID.
AND, UM, LINCOLN ACRES IS IN THE NATIONAL CITY SPHERE OF INFLUENCE AND DECISIONS MADE HERE AFFECT US NOW AND IN THE FUTURE.
YOU SEE, WE ARE GEOGRAPHICALLY ISOLATED, AN ISLAND WITHOUT REPRESENTATION AT THIS MOMENT.
FRIENDS, I ALSO WANT LINCOLN ACRES.
I, I WENT TO LINCOLN ACRES AND I WENT TO GRANGER AND I WENT TO SWEETWATER JUST LIKE THE MAN THAT MADE THAT COMMENT.
BUT BECAUSE I LIVE IN LINCOLN ACRES, I GUESS MY VOICE SHOULDN'T BE HEARD.
UH, MY MAILING ADDRESS IS NATIONAL CITY, BUT I LIVE IN THE COUNTY, RIGHT? BUT I LIVE IN THE COUNTY AND I TAKE PART IN THIS PROCESS TO HELP IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF ALL PEOPLE IN OUR REGION.
WHO, WHO DO WE HAVE ON ZOOM? HUH? YES.
WHAT'S YOUR ZIP CODE MR. MAR? NINE ONE.
SEVEN BEFORE THEY TOOK HER, IT JUST MEANS THE POST OFFICE DELIVERS HIS MAIL.
UH, DO WHO DO WE HAVE PEOPLE THERE ON ZOOM? WE DO NOT HAVE ANYBODY ELSE ON ZOOM.
OH, UM, ED AND I DO WANT TO ADD FOR THE RECORD THAT WE DID RECEIVE ONE WRITTEN COMMENT FROM DAVID GARCIA ZA.
I THINK THAT'S HOW YOU SAY IT.
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TO, UH, CITY MANAGER'S REPORT.JUST GO ON FOR ABOUT A HALF HOUR.
I, I HAD LIKE 25 ITEMS, BUT, UH, I'M GONNA CUT IT TO NONE RIGHT NOW.
[13. ELECTED OFFICIALS REPORT]
WE GO THEN TO THE, UH, ELECTED OFFICIALS REPORTS.I'M GONNA TAKE THE QUEUE OF MR. SCOTT AND BE A MAN.
FEW WORDS, I SIMPLY JUST WANT TO COMMEND THE EFFORT OF THE COMMUNITY LAST WEEK, UH, HOSTING A PROTEST HERE IN NATIONAL CITY, UM, UH, EXPRESSING THEIR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT TO PROTEST, UH, THIS FEDERAL ADMINISTRATION AND THEIR CONTINUED CAUSING TERROR IN OUR COMMUNITY.
REALLY JUST TO DIVERT ATTENTION FROM THE FACT THAT THEY'RE PUSHING AN INITIATIVE, UH, A BUDGET THAT IS GOING TO DECIMATE MEDICARE AND SECTION EIGHT HOUSING.
SO, UM, UH, REALLY WANNA COMMEND THE EFFORT.
UH, I URGE THE, UH, PROTESTORS AND INDIVIDUALS TO BE PEACEFUL, NONVIOLENT, NO TAGGING, NO BURNOUTS, NO ALCOHOL, NO DRUGS WHILE EXPRESSING THE FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS.
AND REALLY WANNA MAKE A SHOUT OUT TO OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.
I WAS PRESENT MOST OF THE TIME, UM, AND, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THEIR PATIENTS DEESCALATION TACTICS, UM, UH, WITH, WITH A RATHER SIZEABLE CROWD, UH, HAD VERY MINOR INCIDENTS AND HAD OVER 20 OFFICERS WORKING THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY AND ALL OF THE, UH, PROTESTORS WERE, UM, SAFE.
SO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR HARD WORK.
UM, THANK YOU FOR ALL THOSE WHO CAME TO, UH, CELEBRATE, UH, THE HUNDRED 27TH PHILIPPINE INDEPENDENCE DAY ON, UH, THURSDAY.
THANK YOU MAYOR FOR BEING THERE.
AND THANK YOU YOU FOR THE COMMUNITY THAT CAME OUT.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, YOU I'M IN REQUEST, OFFICIALLY REQUEST, UM, YOU KNOW, TO SHOW MY CALENDAR TO MR. NIETO BECAUSE HE SAID I HAD A MEETING WITH HIM.
MY CALENDAR IS OPEN, IT'S ALL THERE.
AND I DON'T REMEMBER MEETING WITH HIM IN MY TWO AND A HALF YEARS.
I MET WITH HIM ONCE OFFICIALLY IN MY OFFICE ON A FRIDAY, AND THEN ONE DURING MY OPEN HOUSE.
SO I DON'T LIKE TO BE CALLED A LIAR.
THAT'S NUMBER ONE PET PEEVE FOR ME.
YOU BETTER TELL IT TO MY FACE AND I'LL TELL YOU TO YOUR FACE IF I'M LYING, RIGHT? NOT, UM, OPEN HOUSE, SECOND AND FOURTH TUESDAYS, ONE TO 3:00 PM FOR DISTRICT THREE.
UM, SO I SAID THAT TO MR. NIETO, UM, MR. CITY, UM, UM, ATTORNEY AND MR. CITY MANAGER.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY IF THIS DEPOSITION IS FROM THE, FROM THE CITY DIRECTING A STAFF TO GO TO A DEPOSITION AND WHY THAT DEPOSITION IS NOT HAPPENING.
I WANTED AN EXPLANATION PLEASE FOR THAT.
UM, AND THEN, UM, I, THIS IS OUR LAST MEETING FOR, FOR, UM, THIS MONTH, UM, FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR ACTUALLY.
UM, CARLOS, FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART, SIR, THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND THANK YOU ALL.
CARLOS, I'M GONNA MISS YOU A LOT.
UM, THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE DONE FOR THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY.
THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR STAYING SO LATE.
WHAT A GREAT LAST MEETING FOR YOU, RIGHT? SO, THANK YOU,
YEAH, YOU'RE GONNA, CONGRATULATIONS, UH, CARLOS, WHEN I ANNOUNCED THAT, UM, ED EDCO AND, UH, DISTRICT FOUR CITYWIDE, UH, CLEANUP EVENT, UH, FREE AT LAS PALMAS PARK.
UH, GONNA BE AT 1810, EAST 22ND SHREDDING TO, I'M SORRY, REMEMBER SHREDDING TO MM-HMM
I WAS GONNA GO OVER, UH, THE, UH, THOSE ITEMS TOO.
SO THIS SATURDAY FROM EIGHT TO 12, UM, ACCEPT ACCEPTED ITEMS, FURNITURE, TRASH, WOOD, METAL, FENCING, YARD DEBRIS, CARPETING, UH, CARPETING, UH, E-WASTE, UH, A FREE MULCH IS GONNA BE AVAILABLE, NOT ACCEPTED TIRES, HAZARDOUS WASTE.
UM, AND, UH, PROOF OF ID IS REQUIRED.
UH, AND SO I'M HAPPY FOR THE, UH, RECESS.
I THINK WE ALL NEED REST, BUT, UH, FOR JUST MY MESSAGE TO STAFF AND REALLY TO THE PUBLIC, EVERYONE, UH, LISTENING, THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR PATIENCE.
AND, YOU KNOW, I ENCOURAGE, I DID ENCOURAGE THAT ITEM.
I ASKED STAFF TO BRING IT UP IN RESPONSE TO ALL THE CHAOS, BUT I WANT YOU GUYS TO KNOW WHY I BROUGHT IT UP.
AND IT'S BECAUSE YOU, YOU SAW HERE, YOU SAW WHAT IT WAS.
SO WE HAVE FOLKS TRYING TO BULLY US AND TRYING TO HARASS US, EVEN EMPLOYEES.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THOSE OF US ON THE DIOCESE THAT DON'T DO EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT FOR THEIR PROFIT.
AND YOU SEE WHAT THEY DO, THEY TRY TO THREATEN POLITICALLY AND, AND WE SEE THAT IT'S A WHOLE CAMPAIGN.
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I'M NOT GONNA ACCEPT IT.I'M ALWAYS GONNA TELL THE TRUTH TO FOLKS.
UM, AND I'M GONNA FIGHT FOR NATIONAL CITY.
AND WHEN PEOPLE ARE ATTACKING OUR BUSINESS OWNERS, WHICH IS WHAT'S HAPPENING, ATTACKING OUR STAFF, NO, I ABSOLUTELY DON'T ACCEPT IT.
SO, UH, IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT, THAT THEY KEEP COMING BACK AND THIS PROJECT IS DEAD AND WE HAVE TO SIT HERE AND, AND LISTEN TO IT.
BUT I, I DO HOPE THAT WE COME TO A RESOLUTION WITH THAT.
I'M SORRY TO THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE UP SO MUCH OF YOUR TIME.
BUT LOOK, GREAT THINGS ARE COMING THIS YEAR.
WE DON'T ALWAYS AGREE ON THIS DAIS, BUT I, I APPRECIATE ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES, EVEN WHEN I, UH, DISAGREE.
AND, UM, AND I THINK, UH, THIS NEXT MONTH AFTER WE REST, I THINK WE'RE GONNA DO SOME EXCITING THINGS.
WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK AHEAD OF US, LIKE TACKLING OUR DEFICIT AND, AND, AND INVESTING IN, UM, IN OUR LOCAL ECONOMY.
ALRIGHT, UM, COUPLE OF THINGS.
YOU GOT UPSET WHEN SOMEONE CAME UP AND MISREPRESENTED YOU WHEN YOU JUMPED ON IT REAL QUICKLY.
NOW YOU KNOW WHAT SOMEONE OF US HAS BEEN PUTTING UP WITH FOR SIX MONTHS WITH ALL THE MISREPRESENTATIONS, MR. MAYOR, HE CALLED ME A LIAR.
WELL, WE'VE BEEN CALLED A LIAR TOO, AND EVEN TONIGHT CALLED ME A LIAR.
SO, YOU KNOW, SO THIS IS, THIS HAS BEEN ONGOING FOR SIX MONTHS.
SO, UM, SOME OF US HAD DEVELOPED VERY THICK SKIN OVER THE LAST SIX MONTHS.
UM, I'VE GOT A NUMBER OF THINGS.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME UP BEEN PUSHING, I'VE BEEN PUSHING WITH THE ADMIRALS OF REGION SOUTHWEST AND EVERYTHING ELSE BECAUSE THEY KEPT BRINGING UP AND THE, WITH THE BASE COMMANDER ABOUT THE PARKING PROBLEMS THAT THEY HAVE ON, ON NAVAL BASE.
AND, AND SO, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THEY HAVE ALL THE CONTRACTORS AND EVERYTHING ELSE, THEY DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH PARKING.
THEY HAVE A SHUTTLE ON BASE, BUT IT'S NOT DOING IT.
AND I KEPT BRINGING UP TO 'EM, YOU'VE GOT EIGHT STREET GATE DOWN HERE THAT HAS A TROLLEY STATION AT IT THAT HAS A CLASS ONE BIKE PATH IN FRONT OF IT, BUT YOU COULD ONLY ENTER THAT GATE IF YOU'RE IN A CAR.
SO IT IS TAKEN NOW, I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW MANY YEARS WE FIRST BROUGHT THIS UP, UH, TO ADMIRAL OF SOUTHWEST AND TO THE BASE COMMANDER, AND THEY GO, GOSH, NOBODY EVER MENTIONED THAT A WEEK AGO THEY FINALLY INSTALLED SO THAT NOW PEOPLE CAN, WITH THEIR ID, THEY CAN GO ON BASE, WHETHER THEY'RE ON A BICYCLE OR ON FOOT AND COME OFF THE TROLLEY.
SO THEY DON'T NEED TO BE DRIVING THERE.
AND UH, THAT'S, THAT HAPPENED.
AND ALSO WE'RE ARRANGING WITH THE FRANK, SO THE FRANK CAN DROP PEOPLE OFF AT THE GATE AND 'CAUSE THEY'RE GONNA, THEIR SHUTTLE CAN BRING 'EM TO, TO THE GATE AND THEY CAN PICK UP OUR SHUTTLE, TAKE THEM, AND THEN BACK AND FORTH OFF OF THAT ALSO.
AND, UH, TO HELP, UH, NOT CLOG OUR STREET SO MUCH WITH TRAFFIC FOR BOTH ROW STATIONS.
NOW, MAYOR, NOT JUST 24TH, BUT ALSO EIGHTH.
WELL, NO, FRANK, IT, IT, IT'S ONLY AT THE EIGHTH STREET GATE.
NO, FOR THE FRANK, UH, DROP OFF.
OH, THE FRANK, UH, WELL YOU CAN DROP OFF AT THE 19TH STREET GATE.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT UHHUH
IT CAN DROP OFF AT THE 19TH STREET GATE, BUT SAID YOU'RE SURE, BUT YEAH, BUT YOU CAN DROP OFF THERE.
I DON'T THINK THEY'VE GOT, BECAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S REALLY NOT THAT MUCH ACTIVITY THERE.
EVERYTHING'S ON THE EIGHTH STREET GATE IS WHERE THE ACTIVITY GOES IN ACTUALLY TO THE SHIPS.
YEAH, WE'RE GONNA MAKE IT REAL QUICK AND WE'LL GET IT OUTTA HERE THEN.
WE GOT THAT COMING UP THE SECOND THROUGH THE SIXTH.
WE ALSO HAVE THE MOVIE IN THE PARK.
I JUST WANNA MAKE A COUPLE QUICK COMMENTS.
UH, WE HAD THE COMMENT WITH MADE A WHILE AGO, AND I HEARD FROM TWO INDIVIDUALS AND I HEARD FROM OTHERS.
WE ARE GONNA RECALL YOU? NO, THEY'RE NOT.
UH, BECAUSE THEY LIVE IN BONITA, YOU GET, DON'T GET TO VOTE IN NATIONAL CITY.
AND SO YOU CAN'T SAY YOU'RE GONNA RECALL A NATIONAL CITY COUNCIL MEMBER.
YOU MAY GET OTHER PEOPLE TO DO IT, BUT YOU CAN'T EVEN VOTE ON IT.
AND SO THAT I THINK IS A LITTLE RIDICULOUS AND WE WANT TO GET COMMENTS FROM THEM.
I THINK WHAT WAS STATE STAYED, APPEAR AND MADE IT SOUND, EXCEPT WE DIDN'T WANT COMMENTS FROM PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN BONITA OR, UH, LINCOLN ACRES.
AND NOT ONLY ARE THEY IN OUR SPHERE OF INFLUENCE, BUT WE'RE IN THEIR SPHERE OF INFLUENCE.
WE WANT TO HEAR COMMENTS, BUT JUST DON'T SAY KEEP HANDS OFF OF US, BUT WE WANT TO COME OVER AND WE WANT TO TELL YOU WHAT TO DO.
IT'S GOTTA BE A TWO-WAY STREET.
THAT'S THE ONLY THING WE WERE SAYING AND THAT WAS BEING MISREPRESENTED WITH THAT.
CAN WE GO TO OUR, UH, AND I'M GONNA SAY, WAIT A MINUTE.
ONE OTHER THING, BECAUSE AN ACCUSATION WAS BROUGHT UP AGAIN ABOUT JOSIE CLARK BECAUSE SHE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE AT A DEPOSITION AND SHE DIDN'T SHOW UP, BUT SHE WAS, A PICTURE WAS SHOWN WITH HER AT A BRUNCH.
WITH THOSE TWO ATTORNEYS IN THE ROOM DURING MY DEPOSITION, THEY BROUGHT THAT UP 'CAUSE IT'D ONLY BEEN LIKE A DAY BEFORE.
AND I MENTIONED TO 'EM AND I TOLD 'EM THEN, SO THEY KNOW THE TRUTH AND THEY GOT UP HERE AND DELIBERATELY MISCONSTRUED IT.
SHE HAD TO DROP OFF HER HUSBAND AT THE HOSPITAL TO BE SURGERY.
SHE CAME BACK TO THE OFFICE AND WORKED.
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THAT BRUNCH THAT WAS SCHEDULED.THEN HE GOT OUTTA SURGERY AND OUT OF, OUT OF, UH, REHAB, OR NOT REHAB, BUT UH, RE RECOVERY, CALLED HER AND THEN SHE HAD TO GO PICK HIM UP, BUT, OH.
UH, BUT THEY WANTED HER FOR THE ENTIRE DAY.
THERE'S NO WAY SHE COULD DO THAT WITH AN EMERGENCY SURGERY.
THEY KNEW THAT, BUT THEY GOT UP HERE AND MADE AN ACCUSATION KNOWING THAT THEY WERE LYING THROUGH THEIR TEETH.
THAT'S GOTTA STOP ANYWAY, WITH THAT
[14. CITY ATTORNEY REPORT]
CITY ATTORNEY.WHAT HAVE YOU GOT TO REPORT? UH, I GUESS THE FIRST THING IS I'M, I'M NOT QUITE SURE, BUT I THINK IN THE FUTURE I CAN HAVE RICHARD SIT IN
THIS IS THE SECOND TIME THAT I'M AT MIDNIGHT.
I I'M STARTING TO TAKE IT PERSONALLY.
UH, REPORT OUT ON CLOSED SESSION.
UM, WE HAD THE BCD AND CALI MODA, UH, LITIGATION MATTERS.
UH, THE COUNCIL GAVE DIRECTION FOR AN UPCOMING MEDIATION.
UM, WE HAD DISCUSSIONS REGARDING CUMMINS VERSUS THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY.
UH, AND THEN LASTLY, THERE WAS, UH, DISCUSSIONS REGARDING THE LABOR NEGOTIATIONS AND THE COUNCIL PROVIDED THE LABOR NEGOTIATION NEGOTIATORS WITH, UH, DIRECTION.
AND WITH THAT, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, WE ARE ADJOURNED.
WE ARE ADJOURNED TO AUGUST THE FIFTH.
I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A LOT OF COUNCIL MEETINGS WITH YOU OVER THE NEXT FEW WEEKS, BUT DOGG ON IT, WE'VE GOTTA.