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OKAY, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, UH, WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD

[CALL TO ORDER]

AND GET STARTED WITH THE MEETING.

THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR ATTENDING.

I HEREBY CALL THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF NATIONAL, CITY OF JUNE 2ND, 2025 AT 6:03 PM TO ORDER.

I WOULD REQUEST THAT EVERYBODY PLEASE SILENCE YOUR PHONES AS I FORGOT TO DO BEFORE THE MEETING, SO PLEASE SILENCE YOUR PHONES.

A LIVE WEBCAST OF THIS MEETING MAY BE VIEWED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE AT H HTTPS SLASH NATIONAL CITY CA.GOV/WEBCAST.

THE NOTICE AGENDA AND INFORMATION ON THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY'S WEBSITE INFORM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT THEY MAY SUBMIT PUBLIC COMMENT ON A SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEM IN A NUMBER OF WAYS.

FIRST, BY EMAIL AT PLC PUB, COMMENT@NATIONALCITYCA.GOV NO LATER THAN FOUR HOURS BEFORE THE MEETING.

SECOND VIA ZOOM BY PREREGISTERING ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE, NO LATER THAN FOUR HOURS BEFORE THE MEETING AT HTTPS SLASH SLASH NATIONAL CITY CA.GOV/PUBLIC COMMENT.

THIRD, THE PUBLIC CAN PROVIDE COMMENTS IN PERSON.

ALL WRITTEN COMMENTS RECEIVED WILL BE DISTRIBUTED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS APPROPRIATE PRIOR TO THE RESPECTIVE MEETINGS AND PUBLISHED ON THE CITY WEBSITE.

IF RECEIVED BY THE DEADLINE, I REQUEST THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

SECRETARY, NOW PROCEED WITH ROLL CALL VICE CHAIR CASTLE CASTLE PRESENT.

COMMISSIONER MENTA PRESENT.

COMMISSIONER KIONE PRESENT.

COMMISSIONER FOREMAN.

YES.

THIS IS COMMISSIONER FOREMAN AND, AND I AM HERE, CHAIR MILLER PRESENT, COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ AND COMMISSIONER VALENZUELA, CURRENTLY PPLICANT.

I WILL NOW HAVE COMMISSIONER QUINONES LEAD US IN PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

UH, LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT COMMISSIONER VALENZUELA HAS ARRIVED.

EVERYBODY PLEASE STAND.

READY, BEGIN.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVIDUAL WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.

WE WILL NOW HEAR PUBLIC COMMENTS ON ITEMS OR MATTER MATTERS THAT ARE NOT, AND I WOULD LIKE TO STRESS THAT ARE NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA UNDER STATE LAW.

WE CANNOT RESPOND TO PUBLIC COMMENTS AND ITEMS REQUIRING PUBLIC COMMISSION ACTION.

THESE ITEMS MUST BE BROUGHT BACK ON A SUBSEQUENT AGENDA UNLESS THEY ARE OF A DEMONSTRATED EMERGENCY OR URGENT NATURE.

MADAM SECRETARY, ARE THERE ANY ITEMS OR COMMENTS NOT RELATED TO TONIGHT'S AGENDA? NO.

CHAIR.

THANK YOU.

WE WILL NOW BEGIN

[1. Approval of Agenda for the Regular Planning Commission Meeting on April 21, 2025.]

CONSIDERATION OF THE ITEMS ON TONIGHT'S REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA.

ITEM ONE IS FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, MEETING OF JUNE 2ND, 2025.

IF THERE IS NO DISCUSSION FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION, DO I HEAR A MOTION? I'M GONNA BRING UP A POINT I WOULD LIKE TO BRING, BRING THE CITIZEN.

UH, THIS IS NOT THE TIME, UH, WE'RE DISCUSSING APPROVAL OF THE, OR THE, THE ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT'S MEETING.

UH, CAN WE DISCUSS IT, UH, AT THE APPROPRIATE MOMENT? THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

I'M SORRY.

UH, MARTIN READER, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR.

POINT OF ORDER.

I THINK YOU SAID JUNE 2ND.

IT WOULD'VE BEEN APRIL 21ST.

NO, THIS IS THE APPROVAL OF TONIGHT'S AGENDA.

I BEG YOUR PARDON.

FOR THE REGULAR MEETING.

EXCUSE ME FOR TONIGHT.

THANK YOU.

THIS IS THE ADOPTION OF THAT, UM, OF TONIGHT'S AGENDA.

OKAY.

IF I DIDN'T, IF THAT WASN'T CLEAR, WAS IT CLEAR? OKAY.

BUT I NEED, I STILL NEED A MOTION AND A SEC ALREADY ON THE BOARD.

OH, OKAY.

I'M SORRY.

OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY VICE CHAIR CASTLE AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ARMENTE TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.

MADAM SECRETARY, UM, WE'RE GOING TO VOTE NOW ELECTRONICALLY.

MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

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YEP.

UH, MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH COMMISSIONERS PRESENT.

PRESS NOTE.

I'M SORRY, I PRESS THE NOTE.

OH, OKAY.

LET'S, LET'S REDO THAT, PLEASE.

MM-HMM .

SO THIS IS, UH, AGAIN, THE MOTION TO ADOPT THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT'S MEETING.

CASTLE MOVED OR MEANT TO SECOND IT, AND WE WILL NOW VOTE.

WE WE'RE REDOING THE VOTE BECAUSE IT DIDN'T SHOW HER VOTE PROPERLY.

RIGHT.

BUT IF THERE WAS A DISCUSSION POINT, WOULD WORDS OPPORTUNITY FOR HER.

OH, OKAY.

YOU'RE CORRECT.

OKAY.

DID YOU HAVE A, A YOU WANTED TO MAKE AN A COMMISSIONER FOREMAN? THIS AGENDA ITEM HAS BEEN PRESENT IN THE COMMUNITY FOR AS LONG AS I'VE LIVED HERE, WHICH I CAN'T SAY IS TOO LONG, BUT I DID MOVE IN AND KNOW, UH, MARCH, 2022.

2023, SORRY.

SO I'VE BEEN IN NATIONAL CITY OF RESIDENT FOR TWO YEARS.

I DO COME FROM AN URBAN PLANNING BACKGROUND.

I WORKED IN THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO FOR BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT ASSOCIATION FOR 20 YEARS.

THAT'S JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND, AND SO IT'S BEEN PRESENT FOR A VERY LONG TIME, AND IT'S BEEN A VERY CONCERNING PROJECT.

AND I KNOW THAT THE COMMUNITY OF PEOPLE WITH CONCERN HAS WANTED TO SEE THIS AGENDA ITEM FOR A VERY LONG TIME.

AND SO I'VE BEEN, UM, ALSO WANTING TO RECEIVE IT AS A PLANNING COMMISSIONER AND, UH, I THINK IT'S BEEN DELAYED.

SO I HAVE A VERY STRONG SENSE OF DISTRUST ABOUT IT AS WELL.

I THINK THERE'S BEEN POORLY, UM, PUT TOGETHER INFORMATION ABOUT IT IN OUR PACKAGE AND THE LIST GOES ON.

SO THAT'S WHY I AM SAYING NO, THAT I DON'T APPROVE OF THIS AGENDA ITEM.

AS MUCH AS I REALLY WANT TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION, I, I, I FEEL THAT THE PUBLIC AND OUR COMMUNITY IS BEING MISINFORMED BY THE INFORMATION BEHIND IT.

THANK YOU.

WE WILL NOW VOTE.

MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE DECLARE THE VOTE.

MOTION CARRIED.

FIVE YESES.

ONE.

NO, AND ONE ABSENT.

THANK YOU.

ITEM

[2. Approval of Minutes for the Regular Planning Commission Meeting of March 3, 2024.]

TWO ON TONIGHT'S AGENDAS FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF APRIL 21ST, 2025.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT? YES, COMMISSIONER FOREMAN, I, UM, ALL THESE CONCERNS REALLY RELATE TO MY LEVEL OF DISTRUST AND JUST IN READING THE MINUTES ONE THAT I ATTENDED FROM LAST, UH, MONTH ONE, I DON'T LIKE HOW, LIKE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS, IT JUST SAYS IT, IT'S NOT DOCUMENTED IN THE MINUTES.

IT SAYS PUBLIC COMMENT UNRELATED TO THE AGENDA.

SO WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY DOCUMENTING THE PUBLIC COMMENTS, AND PARTICULARLY BECAUSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT FROM LAST MONTH THAT WAS SO STRONG WAS THAT WE HADN'T, OR THE CITY, SORRY, NOT ME, HADN'T FILED, UM, THE PAPERWORK FROM THE LA FROM DECEMBER'S MEETING RELATED TO ANOTHER ENVIRONMENTALLY HORRIBLE PROJECT.

AND IT WASN'T SIGNED OFF THAT OUR PLANNING COMMISSION OPPOSED IT.

SO I CAN'T IMAGINE WHY THAT WAS OVERLOOKED IN THE MINUTES.

THAT'S NUMBER ONE.

NUMBER TWO IS THAT IN THE MINUTES IN THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS LOT LINE SORT OF CHANGE, IT ALSO WASN'T BROUGHT UP A VERY IMPORTANT POINT THAT WAS MADE ABOUT IT, WHICH WAS THAT WE DIDN'T WANT A STRAIGHT LINE THROUGH THE LOT THAT WE WANTED TO SUPPORT.

THE, THE APPLICANT WHO'S A LONGTIME RESIDENT HERE AND, UH, WAS APPLYING FOR THIS LOT LINE, UM, CHANGE, AND THAT HE HAS LIKE AN INCREDIBLY BEAUTIFUL HISTORIC OLIVE TREE ON HIS PROPERTY.

AND WHAT HE WAS SUGGESTING WAS THAT THE LINE WAS SUPPOSED TO ZIGZAG AROUND THE, THE TREE, LIKE WHAT, WHAT HE REQUESTED, AND THAT THE CITY WAS RECOMMENDING THAT IT WAS A STRAIGHT LINE.

AND THAT ALSO WASN'T DOCUMENTED.

IT WASN'T DOCUMENTED ABOUT THE COMMENTS THAT I MADE RELATED TO IT TOO.

SO, AGAIN, I'M GONNA HAVE TO SAY NO TO THE MINUTES VICE, VICE CHAIR CASTLE.

I WOULD JUST LIKE IT INTO RECORD THAT THE EVERYTHING IS DOCUMENTED.

THERE IS A LIVE VIDEO WEBCAST THAT IS AVAILABLE ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE WITH ALL COMMENTS AND EVERYTHING INSIDE OF IT.

THANK YOU.

I JUST HAVE HIGHER EXPECTATIONS FOR MINUTES

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FROM A MEETING.

I WRITE MINUTES FOR MY OWN MEETINGS AS IT RELATES TO, UM, THE BROWN ACT AGENDAS , AND SO I KNOW WHAT MINUTES LOOK LIKE.

OKAY.

SO, UH, IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON, UM, THIS PARTICULAR ITEM FOR THE, UH, APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF APRIL 21ST? AND THEN WE ARE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND VOTE.

MAKE A MOTION.

I, I AM SORRY.

YES.

MAKE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

I'M MOTION .

I MOTION TO APPROVE.

I'M MOTION TO DENY THERE'S A MOTION ON THE BOARD.

WE NEED A SECOND.

THERE'S, THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR, WHICH IS MOTION TO APPROVE.

CORRECT.

AND IS THERE A SECOND FOR THE, THE MOTION TO APPROVE? OH, THERE IT IS.

OKAY.

OKAY.

UH, THIS WOULD BE THE TIME TO MAKE, UH, A SUBSTITUTE MOTION, CORRECT? YES.

IF THERE'S A SUBSTITUTE, I'LL GO AHEAD AND DENY IT, BECAUSE IT'S JUST NOT FULL OF THE RIGHT INFORMATION THAT WE NEED TO DOCUMENT OUR MEETINGS.

THERE'S AN ALTERNATIVE ALSO, WHICH IS MAKING A MOTION TO AMEND THE MINUTES TO REFLECT WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE THEM TO REFLECT.

I DON'T WANNA DO THAT BECAUSE I HAVE SUCH DISTRUST THAT I'M SEEING OVER AND OVER, AND SO I'M GONNA LEAVE IT AT THAT.

I DON'T, IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME IF, WHETHER YOU AGREE OR NOT.

I WANT IT TO BE PUBLICLY KNOWN THAT I DENY IT.

THANK YOU.

UH, COMMISSIONER ARMINTA FOR THIS.

UM, I WANNA ASK, UH, COMMISSIONER FOREMAN A QUESTION.

ARE YOU LOOKING FOR A TRANSCRIPT, UH, TO BE PUBLISHED AS A MEETING NOTES? I'M JUST LOOKING FOR, FOR, BECAUSE IF IT'S ON VIDEO, FULL DETAILS ON THE MINUTES.

YEAH.

BUT IF IT'S ON VIDEO, WHAT EXACTLY DO YOU WANT ON THE MINUTES? A TRANSCRIPT? I, I DON'T UNDERSTAND.

YES.

WRITTEN OUT THE BASIC INFORMATION THAT CAME FROM THE MEETING.

I WANT THE DOCUMENTATION, WHETHER IT'S A LINE OR TWO, I DON'T WANT IT TO JUST SAY, THE PUBLIC COMMENT IS UNRELATED TO THE AGENDA, SO THERE'S LIKE NO DOCUMENTATION OF IT.

THAT'S LIKE SAYING WE DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS.

I ALSO, I REALLY FELT THAT THERE WAS A STRONG DISCUSSION ABOUT THE ZIGZAG OF THE, WHAT'S IT CALLED OF THAT LOT.

AND AGAIN, IT JUST WASN'T BROUGHT FORWARD.

.

I MEAN, WHY WOULD WE AGREE TO ADMIT IT'S THAT REALLY DIDN'T CAPTURE THE SUBSTANCE OF THE MEETING? I HAVE ONE MORE COMMENT.

I DO WANNA ON RECORD THAT WE DO CARE ABOUT EVERYBODY'S COMMENTS, UH, THE PUBLIC'S COMMENTS.

WE DO CARE AND WE DO, UH, TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION.

SO YEAH, WE, I WILL SPEAK FOR MYSELF.

I REALLY CARE.

SO THAT'S WHY I WANT IT REFLECTED IN THE PROPER WAY ON THE MINUTES, JUST LIKE I WANT THE DOCUMENT FROM DECEMBER SIGNED IMMEDIATELY.

I WANNA SEE THESE RECORDS BEING TAKEN SERIOUSLY.

I DO THINK THAT, LIKE, SHARE CASTLE, I THINK THAT THE WAY THAT THE VOTING GOES AND EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS COME, LIKE A LOT OF THINGS GO INTO US REVIEWING AGENDA AND REVIEWING AND LISTENING TO ALL OF THE WORK THAT OUR HARD, THAT OUR STAFF HAS WORKED VERY HARD ON AND LISTENING TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT.

AND THEN OUR JOB IS TO COME UP WITH A GOOD SOLUTION THAT WORKS ALL THE WAY AROUND FOR EVERYBODY.

UM, AND I DO THINK THAT OUR CARING OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT SHOWS IN THE WAY THAT WE VOTE AND HOW IT, IT COMES OUT TO THE PUBLIC.

SO THE FACT THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, LISTENED TO PUBLIC COMMENT ABOUT LOT LINES GOING AROUND A TREE THAT IS OVER A HUNDRED YEARS OLD, SHOWS THAT WE DO CARE, THE VOTE CAME OUT OF IT.

THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE HAS BEEN THE, UH, OPPORTUNITY OVER OFF OF ORANGE STREET FOR A PROJECT THAT WAS DENIED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

IT SHOWS THAT WE LISTEN TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT AND THAT WE DO CARE.

SO IT COMES THROUGH AND SHOWS IN OUR VOTING.

IF PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO GO BACK AND WATCH THE WEBCAST OF EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SPOKEN HERE, ALL THE PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN OUT, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, UH, TWO HOURS WORTH OF PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT THEY'RE FREE TO GO BACK AND WATCH.

UM, AND AS FOR DOCUMENTING EVERYTHING, I THINK THAT IF WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND ADD TRANSCRIPTS INTO THE MINUTES, WE COULD DEFINITELY DO THAT.

UM, JUST LIKE COMMISSIONER MENTIS SAID, BUT, UM, I, I DON'T, IT, IT WOULD BE OPINION ON EVERY SINGLE MINUTE THAT WOULD BE, UH, AT THE STAFF'S DISCRETION.

JUST TO COMMENT BACK, I WANT TO AGREE THAT WE AS A COMMISSION, THAT I'VE FELT WELL SUPPORTED BY THE COMMISSION AND THAT WE DO LISTEN, WE GO THROUGH PROPER PROCEDURES.

MY PROBLEM IS, IS THAT I DON'T SEE ON THE CITY SIDE THAT THE PROPER PROCEDURES ARE BEING MADE WHEN IT COMES TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

THEY'RE ONLY ALLOWED A MINUTES.

SO WHY COULDN'T THAT BE WRITTEN OUT IN THE MINUTES? I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT THE MINUTES.

I'M NOT REALLY SAYING OUR WORK HERE IS NOT BEING TRUSTED PARTICULARLY

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OF OUR PLANNING COMMISSION, NOT THE CITY.

BUT I, SO I'M, I'M, AS WE'RE DISCUSSING THE MINUTES, IT'S THE MINUTES THAT I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF.

OKAY.

I HAVE ONE MORE.

THANK YOU.

GO AHEAD.

AND THIS, THIS WOULD BE TO, UM, PUBLIC COMMENT AS WELL.

IF YOU ARE GETTING UP AND MAKING A PUBLIC COMMENT, I WOULD ALSO SUGGEST, BECAUSE OUR PUBLIC COMMENTS IN WRITING ARE PART OF THE RECORD, SO IF YOU'RE COMING AND SPEAKING OUT AND MAKING A PUBLIC COMMENT, I WOULD HONESTLY SUGGEST THAT YOU PUT IT IN WRITING AS WELL AND SUBMIT THAT TO THE CITY SO THERE IS DOCUMENTED IN THERE.

OKAY.

SO WE HAVE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION TO DENY.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND FOR THAT MOTION? OKAY.

WE DO NOT HAVE, UH, HEARING NO SECOND FOR THE DENIAL.

WE'RE GOING GET BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION OF APPROVAL.

UH, AGAIN, VICE CHAIR CASTLE, UH, MADE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THAT WAS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ARMENTA.

WE WILL NOW VOTE.

MADAM SECRETARY, GO BACK TO YOUR YEAH.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UM, WE DO HAVE,

[PUBLIC COMMENTS]

UH, A LATE NON-GI UH, NON-AG AGENDA ITEM FROM MR. TED ALCH.

MR. GODSHAW, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

THANK YOU.

TURN.

I SERVED AS A, OH YEAH, MICROPHONE.

THERE YOU GO.

I SERVED AS A PLANNING COMMISSIONER FOR 10 YEARS, AND I UNDERSTAND A LOT OF YOUR CONCERNS.

I DON'T KNOW YOU MS. FOREMAN, BUT IT'S NICE TO HEAR WHAT YOU'RE BRINGING UP.

UM, I ALSO WAS OUT JUST NOW LOOKING FOR THE AGENDA PRINTED FOR MYSELF AND DON'T FIND IT OUT THERE.

THAT'S KIND OF WORRISOME TOO.

BUT LET ME JUST SUGGEST SOMETHING THAT I'VE BEEN BRINGING UP WITH THE CITY CLERK A LOT SINCE THE PANDEMIC IN PARTICULAR.

AND THAT IS THAT THE VIDEO IS, IS ONE SOURCE, BUT IT'S NOT A HISTORIC SOURCE THAT WE CAN REFLECT ON EASILY IN 20 YEARS.

AND I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU ADOPT A POLICY AND TELL THE CITY CLERKS AND YOUR ASSISTANT CITY CLERK HERE THAT YOU WANT YOUR COMMENTS SUMMARIZED, NOT TRANSCRIPTED, YES, BUT AT LEAST SUMMARIZED AND IT'S NOT ENOUGH.

AND I TELL THIS TO HER, THE CITY CLERK FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TOO, THAT LISTING A NAME, A A LONG LIST OF 20 PEOPLE THAT SPEAK IS NOT ENOUGH.

EVEN WRITING THAT THOSE 10 PEOPLE OF THAT GROUP WERE IN OPPOSITION AND 10 WERE IN FAVOR IS NOT ENOUGH.

SO IT IS JUST A SOLUTION THAT I SUGGEST TO YOU TONIGHT TO ADOPT AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING IT THROUGH AS A PLANNING COMMISSION POLICY, WHERE YOU CAN ALL DISCUSS IT AND, AND, AND WEIGH IT ALL AND HEAR FROM THE CITY CLERK AND MAYBE GET THOSE GOOD IDEAS PRESSED OVER TO THE CITY COUNCIL AS WELL.

WE ALL DESERVE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

THANK YOU, MR. CHU.

OKAY.

UM, BEFORE, UH, MOVING ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, UH, I WANT TO INDICATE TO THE PUBLIC THAT NO INFORMATION, I APOLOGIZE.

WE HAVEN'T CALLED THE VOTE YET.

OH, WE DID.

WE DID.

WE VOTED, BUT I HAVEN'T CALLED THE VOTE.

OH, I'M SORRY.

OKAY.

MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE DECLARE THE VOTE.

UH, MOTION APPROVED.

FIVE YESES.

ONE.

NO ONE ABSENT.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

AS

[Additional Item]

I WAS SAYING BEFORE, UH, WE MOVE ON WITH THE NEXT ITEM.

UH, NEW INFORMATION HAS BECOME AVAILABLE FROM THE COASTAL COMMISSION VIA A A 21 PAGE LETTER DATED TODAY.

UM, AND, UH, ALSO VIEWED BY THE APPLICANT.

UH, I WANT STAFF TO NOW SUMMARIZE THIS LETTER AND, UM, GO OVER THAT BEFORE WE PROCEED.

GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIR.

MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, MY NAME IS DAVID WELCH WITH THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY PLANNING DIVISION.

WE DID RECEIVE COMMENT TODAY FROM THE CALIFORNIA COASTAL COMMISSION, WHICH REQUESTED A POSTPONEMENT OF A DECISION ON THE PROPOSED COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT FOR, UM, THE PROJECT, WHICH WOULD BE ITEM THREE, THREE ON THE AGENDA, UH, TO WORK WITH STAFF AND THE APPLICANT ON AN IDENTIFIED INCONSISTENCIES WITH THE CITY'S LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM.

UM, THE CONCERNS THAT WERE RAISED WERE REGARDING WETLAND RESOURCES, SEA LEVEL RISE, AND ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE.

UM, THE ITEM

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UNDER CONSIDERATION ON THE AGENDA INCLUDES NOT ONLY THE COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT, BUT ALSO A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND THE CERTIFICATION OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT.

UM, STAFF WILL BE RECOMMENDING A CONTINUANCE OF THIS ITEM TO A DATE UNCERTAIN, UH, TO WORK WITH THIS OUTSIDE AGENCY TO ADDRESS THEIR CONCERNS.

UH, SINCE IT IS NOT KNOWN WHAT THE OUTCOME OF THIS ADDITIONAL WORK MAY BE, STAFF FEELS IT WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE TO PROVIDE AN, A FULL ANALYSIS OF THE PROJECT, UH, UNTIL IT CAN BE FULLY VETTED.

THANK YOU, MR. WELCH.

BASED ON THIS NEW INFORMATION, UH, I'VE DETERMINED THAT THERE WILL BE NO PUBLIC HEARING THIS EVENING.

UH, THEREFORE THERE WILL BE NO PUBLIC COMMENTS TAKEN.

UH, HOWEVER, UH, BE ASSURED THAT THE, UH, THIS BECOMES PART OF THE PUBLIC RECORD.

ALL OF YOUR COMMENT PAGES, UH, AND STAFF WILL BE NOTICING THE, UH, UPCOMING PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.

THIS ALSO IN A POSITIVE LIGHT.

THIS GIVES YOU, AS THE PUBLIC THE OPPORTUNITY TO STUDY THIS VERY SIGNIFICANT LETTER AND ALL THE OTHER COMMENTS THAT ARE PART OF THIS PACKAGE.

THIS INFORMATION LITERALLY CAME TO LIGHT TODAY WITH A LETTER DATED JUNE 2ND FROM THE COASTAL COMMISSION.

SO, UM, IT'S JUST, THERE'S TOO MUCH IN THERE FOR US TO DEAL WITH TONIGHT.

UH, AND STAFF HAS TO STUDY THAT POSTED.

YES, MA'AM.

UH, THE, THE STAFF WILL BE GOING THROUGH THE USUAL PROCEDURES FOR POSTING, UH, AND NOTICING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

UM, MR. READER, DO YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION? YES.

SO, UH, TO EVERYONE, THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, OBVIOUSLY EVERYONE HERE IS INTERESTED.

THE NEXT AVAILABLE MEETING AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL BE JULY 21ST.

WE WILL BE WORKING TOWARDS THAT DATE, EXCUSE ME.

WE WILL BE WORKING TOWARDS THAT DATE.

WE WILL BE VERY TRANSPARENT IN THE PROCESS OF THE PUBLIC NOTICING.

IT WILL BE ON THE CITY WEBSITE.

WE HAVE LET THE COUNCIL MEMBERS KNOW, PARTICULARLY DISTRICT ONE, AND, UH, YOU ARE FREE TO CONTACT ME DIRECTLY.

MY NAME IS MARTIN READER.

I'M THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, AND I'M IN THE PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.

PLEASE FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT TO ME, UH, TO REGISTER YOUR INTEREST, AND I'LL MAKE SURE THAT YOU GET NOTICE OF THAT.

BUT WE WILL, UH, BE SENDING OUT THE NOTICE TO EVERYONE WITHIN A HUNDRED FEET OF THAT PROJECT, PLUS ANYONE INTERESTED IN POSTING IT ON THE WEBSITE AS NORMAL.

THANK YOU, MR. READER.

OKAY.

WITH THAT, WE WILL, AGAIN, LET ME STRESS, THERE WILL BE NO PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT ON THAT PARTICULAR ITEM, UH, TO, SO WE WILL BE MOVING ON TO STAFF REPORTS JUST BEFORE THAT.

IS IT OKAY IF WE LIKE, HAVE A DISCUSSION AMONGST US, THE FACT THAT IT'S BEING DENIED OR SOME GLEANING? 'CAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO POINT OUT THAT THE CALIFORNIA AIR RESOURCES BOARD, UH, THE CHAIR, THE CHAIR, DID NOT RECOGNIZE YOU.

THIS WAS NOT OPEN TO DISCUSSION.

I JUST THINK THAT YOU MADE A VERY QUICK CALL AND THAT WE, IT'S LIKE WE CAN'T THANK YOU.

DIGEST IT OR HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT.

I WILL.

UH, I WILL INDICATE THAT THE, UH, CALIFORNIA AIR RESOURCES BOARD DID SUBMIT A LETTER.

WAS IT TODAY THAT THEY SUBMITTED IT TO NO, .

IT WAS JUNE 27TH.

WE HAVE RECEIVED JANUARY 27TH IT WAS RECEIVED.

COMMISSIONER, PLEASE, WE DID RECEIVE COMMENTS TODAY.

THE, UH, EVERY SOURCE BOARD PROVIDED A PREVIOUS COMMENT LETTER THAT THEY GAVE TO US AS A RESPONSE TO THE COMMENT PERIOD FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT.

AND, UH, MAINTAINED THAT THEY STILL HAD A, UH, SOME DISCUSSION POINTS ABOUT THAT.

THE MAIN PART WAS THE, OBVIOUSLY THE CO COASTAL COMMISSION ASKING FOR POSTPONEMENT.

WE ALSO GOT A LETTER FROM THE HEALTHY FUTURIST COALITION.

RIGHT.

AND, AND MY DECISION, AGAIN, LET ME STRESS THIS.

MY DECISION WAS BASED ON THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST.

THAT WAS ALSO BASED ON THE COASTAL COMMISSION LETTER, A 21 PAGE LETTER, WITH WHAT IS CONSIDERED TO BE NEW INFORMATION THAT NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED FOR THIS PROJECT.

UM, SO THAT, THAT IS THE DECISION THAT WAS MADE.

OKAY.

IS

[STAFF REPORTS]

THE DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY, DO YOU HAVE, UH, ANY FURTHER COMMENTS, PLEASE? NO FURTHER COMMENTS.

JUST TO REITERATE THAT STAFF WILL POST, UM, UH, THE AGENDA WHEN IT IS PREPARED.

GIVE PROPER PUBLIC NOTICE AND, UH, DO THE MAILINGS AS IS NECESSARY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UM, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, NO COMMENT.

THANK YOU.

ASSISTANT DIRECTOR.

UH, NO COMMENTS.

PLEASURE TO SERVE THE COMMISSION AND THE PUBLIC.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UH, VICE CHAIR CASTLE.

NO COMMENT.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER VALENZUELA.

NO COMMENT AT THIS TIME.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ IS ABSENT.

COMMISSIONER ARMENTA, NO COMMENT.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER QUINIONES.

NO COMMENT.

THANK YOU.

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COMMISSIONER FOREMAN.

GOT A COMMENT.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

SO WHILE, YES, I HAVE NOT DIGESTED THIS COASTAL COMMISSION, I WAS PRIVY TO THE FACT THAT THIS CALIFORNIA AIR RESOURCES BOARD LETTER, WHICH IS ALSO QUITE A LENGTHY READ, I THINK IT'S LIKE 20 PAGES, UH, DATED JANUARY 27TH, 2025, WHICH REVEALS A WHOLE LOT OF INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT AN ENVIRONMENTALLY HAZARDOUS PROJECT THIS IS.

I HATE TO INTERRUPT.

UM, BUT THIS ITEM HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM THIS AGENDA ITEM.

SO DISCUSS, SO TO DISCUSS IT NOW WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE.

YOU CAN SAVE YOUR COMMENTS UNTIL IT IS PROPERLY AGENDIZED AND NOTICE THAT THE PUBLIC HEARING TAKES PLACE.

I'LL, I'LL NOT TALK ABOUT THE, THE, THE LETTER, NOT TALKING ABOUT THE PROJECT, BUT I JUST WANNA SAY IN LINE BUILDING ON OUR CHAIR'S CONCERNS FOR THIS LETTER IS THIS LETTER THAT CAME IN THREE HOURS BEFORE WE MET TONIGHT AS A PUBLIC COMMENT, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS WRITTEN IN JANUARY 27TH, 2025, I MEAN, AT THE VERY LEAST, IT COULD HAVE BEEN PART OF THE ENTIRE BOARD PACKAGE, BUT IT WASN'T, AND IT CAME IN THREE HOURS BEFOREHAND.

SO THAT'S MY PROBLEM.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER FOREMAN.

I HAVE NO FURTHER COMMENTS FOR TONIGHT'S MEETING EITHER.

OKAY.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS HEREBY ADJOURNED UNTIL THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING OF JULY 21ST, 2025 AT 6:00 PM THE TIME IS 6:29 PM.