* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [1. CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:03] ALL RIGHT. I WOULD, UH, ALL RIGHT. I'D LIKE TO BEGIN THE MEETING. SORRY. WE'RE SORRY WE'RE BEGINNING IT LATE. BUT, UH, WITH THAT, IF WE COULD HAVE, UH, BEFORE WE GET STARTED, IF WE COULD HAVE AN EXPLANATION FROM THE, UH, INTERPRETERS. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UH, THESE WOULD BE INSTRUCTIONS FOR OUR SPANISH SPEAKING PARTICIPANTS. THANK YOU, MAYOR. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. AS A REMINDER, IF WE COULD PLEASE SILENCE ALL CELL PHONES OR OTHER DEVICES WITHIN THE, UH, CHAMBER. I'M DOING MINE RIGHT NOW. GET THAT ONE DONE. UM, AND THEN LIKE TO CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER A LIVE WEBCAST OF THE MEETING MAY BE VIEWED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE. IF YOU'RE WATCHING VIA, UH, ZOOM OR IN CONFERENCE ROOM, VIEWING THE SPANISH VERSION OF THE MEETING, INTERPRETER INSTRUCTIONS WILL APPEAR IN THE CHAT BOX AT THE BOTTOM OF YOUR SCREEN. UM, BUT FOR THOSE WHO PREFER TO SIT IN THE CHAMBER, HEADSETS ARE AVAILABLE TO PROVIDE LIVE SPANISH TRANSLATION, PLEASE SEE THE CITY CLERK TO CHECK OUT, UH, HEADSETS. THE NOTICE AGENDA AND INFORMATION ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE INFORMS MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT THEY MAY SUBMIT A GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT OR A PUBLIC COMMENT ON A SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEM IN A NUMBER OF WAYS. UH, ONE IN PERSON ON ONE OF THESE SALMON COLORED SLIPS THAT ARE AVAILABLE AT THE BACK OF THE, UH, CHAMBERS VIA ZOOM. BY PRE-REGISTERING NO LATER THAN TWO HOURS BEFORE THE MEETING OR EMAILING NO LATER THAN FOUR HOURS BEFORE THE MEETING. UM, THE, UH, ALL WRITTEN COMMENTS RECEIVED ARE DISTRIBUTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL PRIOR TO THE MEETING AND PUBLISHED ON THE CITY WEBSITE IF THEY ARE RE UH, RECEIVED BY THE DEADLINE. WITH THAT, COULD WE HAVE ROLL CALL PLEASE? THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER RODRIGUEZ. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER MOLINA. PRESENT, VICE MAYOR BUSH. HERE. MAYOR MORRISON. PRESENT. AND COUNCIL MEMBER YAMANI. HERE. THERE WE GO. THANK YOU. YOU HAVE A QUORUM? ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD PLEASE, PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. REMAIN STANDING FOR THE INVOCATION. UH, MEMBER BUSH, WOULD YOU LEAD US, PLEASE? YES. RIGHT HAND OVER YOUR HEART. READY? BEGIN FLAG THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC. FOR WHICH ONE? ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE. LIBERTY. LIBERTY, JUSTICE. AND DO WE HAVE THE PAT? HERE HE IS. OH, GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS. GOOD EVENING YOUR LORD. AND GOOD EVENING. EVERYBODY PRESENT. WE'LL PRAY YOUR GOD, WE THANK YOU HEALTH FOR A BEAUTIFUL DAY, STRENGTH AND THE DESIRE TO DO THE PUBLIC GOOD. I PRAY THAT THIS COUNCIL MEETING WILL BE SOMETHING THAT YOU WILL BE GLORIFIED WITH AS THE DESIRE TO DO GOOD FOR THE PEOPLE MAY CONTINUE TO BE IN EACH AND OF ONE OF THESE HEARTS. WE PRAY THAT YOUR WILL BE DONE UNEARTH, AS IN HIS UNH. IT'S IN JESUS' NAME I PRAY. AMEN. YOU IDENTIFY YOURSELF AND YOUR CHURCH PASTOR. YES SIR. PLEASE IDENTIFY YOURSELF AND YOUR CHURCH. I, SORRY. UH, REVEREND ESCA, SENIOR PASTOR, CDO CHURCH HERE IN NANCY CITY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WELCOME. [5. PUBLIC COMMENT] ALRIGHT, WITH THAT, NOW WE WILL GO INTO PUBLIC COMMENTS. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PUBLIC COMMENTS AND WE WILL BE SETTING THAT FOR TWO MINUTES AND WE WILL GO, UH, UP TILL, IF WE GO UP TO THE 30 MINUTE TIME LIMIT, ANY, ANY ONES THAT ARE LEFT OVER AFTER 30 MINUTES, GO TO THE END OF THE MEETING. UM, WITH THAT WE HAVE, UH, UH, CHAMBER COMMERCE. IT LOOKS LIKE, UH, KAREN MCMANUS AND LOOKS LIKE A CO GOT GOT SOMETHING ELSE, SOMEONE ELSE WITH YOU TOO. [00:05:01] AND BE FOLLOWED BY TED GODSHAW TO BE FOLLOWED BY, UH, MICKEL. UH, POLANCO. HELLO, MAYOR. AND STEVE. I'M KAREN MCMANUS WITH THE NATIONAL CITY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, AND I'M ALSO JOINED WITH JUNIOR MORAN OF BDA KINGS. THE REASON WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY IS WE WANNA SHARE SOME EXCITING NEWS WITH YOU. WE ARE STARTING A NEW RESTAURANT COMMITTEE AND IT IS GONNA BE GREAT. SO INTERNA, SO NATIONAL CITY IS KNOWN FOR THE INTERNATIONAL FOOD, RIGHT? INTERNATIONAL CUISINE WITHOUT BORDERS. I WANT YOU ALL TO GET INTO INSTAGRAM. WE HAVE DELISH, NATIONAL CITY WHERE WE'RE GONNA BE, UH, PROMOTING ALL OF OUR BUSINESSES. AND JUNIOR, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND TAKING AWAY 'CAUSE WE HAVE A FEW MINUTES. HI EVERYBODY. SO, YEAH, UM, THEY CALLED ME IN TO JOIN THEM AND WE HAD TWO MEETINGS SO FAR AND WE'RE SUPER EXCITED TO PUSH FORWARD ON THIS INITIATIVE TO TRY TO UNITE AND HIGHLIGHT ALL THE RESTAURANTS IN NATIONAL CITY, EDUCATE OUR RESTAURANTS IN NATIONAL CITY, HELP OUR RESTAURANTS IN NATIONAL CITY, AND REALLY BRING THE PUBLIC TO THE FOREFRONT AND PUSH THE CITY FORWARD. SO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE OFFERING IS MAKING SURE THAT WE CONDUCT WORKSHOPS SIMILAR TO THE, THE NONPROFIT WORKSHOPS THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. WE WANNA PULL, PULL IN ALL OF OUR BUSINESSES, THOSE THAT ARE, ARE INTERESTED AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND ALL THE REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY NEED TO OPERATE THEIR BUSINESS. SO THAT WOULD BE BUSINESS LICENSING. I'M SURE THE CITY WOULD BE VERY HAPPY TO HEAR THAT. BUT ALSO SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT, UM, THAT JUNIOR AND OUR TEAM CAN CRITIQUE ON. SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT AND WE JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE ARE WORKING HARD FOR YOU AND WE'RE DOING IT. WE LOVE IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. VERY GOOD. ALRIGHT, NEXT, WE TED GODSHAW, FOLLOWED BY MIGUEL POLANCO. AND PLEASE, AS WE CALL YOU UP IN GROUPS OF THREE, PLEASE GET INTO THE MIDDLE AREA SO THEY GO A LITTLE FASTER. OKAY. TED GODSHAW. COUNSEL, IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU TONIGHT. THANK YOU FOR, UH, ADDING ANOTHER HOUR TO MY LIFE. WHERE'S TRUTH? AND WE NEED HER. UM, I'VE SUBMITTED FOUR SCRIBES TONIGHT. I WANNA REVIEW THAT. I'VE SUBMITTED THEM FOR PUBLIC COMMENT FOR 9.1. THE SEWER INCOME AND THE PUBLIC CAN, CAN SEE THOSE COMMENTS. YOU HOPEFULLY HAVE SEEN THEM PRIOR TO THIS MEETING. UH, AND THEY SHOULD START TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THEM TOO. I THINK IT'S GOOD TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN ALSO SUPPORTED BY WRITTEN COMMENT. I'VE ALSO SUPPORTED, I'VE SENT SOMETHING IN FOR YOUR CANNABIS ORDINANCE, VERY DISTURBING. AND LASTLY, THE COUNCIL EXPENDITURES, WHICH HAS BEEN CARRIED OVER 11.1. UM, I CONTINUE TO FEEL LIKE YOU'RE ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE ISSUE WITH CANNABIS. MR. BUSH'S ENTHUSIASTIC SUPPORTED THE WEED BAR AT 24TH STREET AND I FIVE WAS CLEARLY SHOWN ON FACEBOOK THIS WEEKEND. IF YOU DIDN'T SEE IT, MR. BUSH SAID, IN SHORT, THIS IS ONE OF THE COOLEST ENTERTAINMENT SPOTS IN SAN DIEGO. UH, UM, MR. BUSH, IF MR. BUSH COULD HAVE CITED THIS FACILITY AT PLAZA BONITA, IT MAY HAVE BEEN JUST AS KOOL THERE FOR MR. BUSH AND IT WOULD'VE BEEN IN HIS DISTRICT TOO. UH, HE HAS HAD NO CONSIDERATION OF THE NEIGHBORS AND THE COMMUNICATION THAT YOU'VE RECEIVED FROM THE LADIES IN ZOOM. I APPRECIATE THEIR COMMENTS AND I HOPE YOU'RE LISTENING TO THEM AND WEIGHING PUBLIC SAFETY AND HEALTH OVER THE MIGHTY DOLLAR. MIGUEL POLANCO AND LUISA MCCARTHY. AND THEN JACQUELINE RENOSO. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL MEMBERS. UH, I KNOW YOU'RE GETTING TIRED OF SEEING ME UP HERE. I'M ACTUALLY GETTING PRETTY COMFORTABLE WITH THIS MICROPHONE BY NOW. . ANYWAYS, I HAVE THREE POINTS TO MAKE TONIGHT. THE FIRST ONE IS WHY WE, UH, HAVEN'T SEEN THE SIGNED PLANNING COMMISSION RESOLUTION DENYING THE PROJECT, WHICH WAS SUBMITTED TO YOU ON THESE, UH, INTERIM REPORT NUMBER TWO ON PAGE NUMBER 13 AT THE VERY TOP, THERE IS NO SIGNATURES. AND THAT'S VERY CONCERNING TO ME. NUMBER TWO IS WHY WAS SUCH A CONTROVERSIAL PROJECT PUT ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR? AND I KNOW YOU DON'T WANNA HEAR THAT, MARCUS. UH, BUT I'M GONNA SAY IT ANYWAY AND NOT ON THE STAFF REPORT OR THE PUBLIC HEARING SECTION. AND THE THIRD THING IS WHY THE RUSH TO PLACE THIS ITEM FOR THE NEXT WEEK'S. NOT REGULAR MEETING, BUT SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING WHEN IT WAS A MEETING TO CERTIFY ELECTIONS. WHY THE RUSH? UH, I KNOW THE MAYOR IN THE PAST HAS SAID THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO GO ON THE NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING. A SPECIAL MEETING TO CERTIFY ELECTIONS [00:10:01] IS NOT A REGULAR MEETING. SO THOSE ARE SOME BIG QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE. UM, I WAS VERY HAPPY TO SEE THIS LAST EMAIL, UH, THAT WE JUST RECEIVED. AFTER MUCH, MUCH PRESSURE, UM, FROM OUR ATTORNEY TO, UH, YOUR ATTORNEYS IN REGARDS TO, UH, MARTIN READER HAVING RECEIVED, UH, WHO PULLED THE ITEM, WHY WAS THE ITEM PULLED? AND THAT THE ITEM WAS ACTUALLY ON HOLD. IT WASN'T DEAD, AS THEY'VE BEEN SAYING, IT'S DEAD. IT'S ON HOLD. IT SAYS RIGHT HERE IN THE LAST PARAGRAPH, FINDING A PATH FORWARD TO GET SOMETHING BUILT THERE. SO I'VE, UH, ATTACHED THIS ON YOUR INTERIM REPORT. SO I HOPE EVERYBODY READS IT AND NOT JUST, UH, SHRUGS IT UNDER, UNDER YOUR DESK, PLEASE. THANK YOU. LOUISA MCCARTHY, FOLLOWED BY JACQUELINE RENOSO, FOLLOWED BY ALICIA MORRISON. GOOD EVENING, COUNSEL. MAYOR, YOU SAY THERE ARE NO FINANCIAL FAVORS BETWEEN 2001 THROUGH 2024. THE BRICO YOUR FRIENDS HAVE SENT HAVE SPENT THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS OF FROZEN TURKEYS AND HAMS AT YOUR BE HEST TO ENRICH YOUR REPUTATION OF NATIONAL CITY IN NATIONAL CITY, GIVING AWAY TURKEYS AND HAMS TO NATIONAL CITY RESIDENTS AND MILITARY FAMILIES. DURING SIGNIFICANT HOLIDAYS, WE ARE TOLD YOU ARE GETTING BRICO DISCOUNTS. PERHAPS YOU CAN ANSWER MY QUESTION DURING YOUR LAST STATEMENT OF CLOSING. ARE YOU AND YOUR ASSISTANT GETTING DISCOUNTED GASOLINE AND ALCOHOL? OR MAYBE FOR FREE, YOU KNOW, THE BRICO DISCOUNT? SO, 2023, WE HAVE A BUNCH OF PICTURES OF THE TURKEYS FOR MILITARY FAMILIES, FOR YOUR STATE OF THE CITY ADDRESS. ALL THIS FOLDER IS FULL OF A BUNCH OF LITTLE GOODIES. ANOTHER THING THAT YOU MENTIONED IS, UH, YOUR, YOUR ASSISTANT ABOUT GETTING FREEBIES AND WANTING FREE THINGS FOR THE CEMETERY. WELL, YES. SHE ASKED, NOT ONLY DID SHE ASK FOR A FREE FUNERAL AND CEMETERY SERVICE, BUT SHE ALSO ASKED US TO REWRITE THE CONTRACT BECAUSE SHE FOUND OUT THAT THE EMPLOYER OF HER NEPHEW, NOT HER SON, WAS GOING TO PAY FOR THE SERVICES. AND SHE ASKED MIKA, HERE'S THE TEXT, CAN WE REDO THE CONTRACT? BUT NOT ONLY THIS, WE HAVE EMAILS, WE HAVE TEXTS, AND WE HAVE CONTRACTS THAT ARE SIGNED WITH HER SIGNATURE AND ABOVE THAT TWO DEATH CERTIFICATES. HMM. ONE THAT SAYS MOTHER AND THE ONE THAT WE ASKED HER TO RECTIFY TO SAY WHAT IS TRUTHFUL. AND THAT'S AUNT. HERE YOU GO. LET THERE BE NO DOUBT. AND OUR ATTORNEY HAS FAR MORE PAPERWORK. THANK YOU. OKAY. JACQUELINE RENOSO, FOLLOWED BY ALICIA MORRISON, FOLLOWED BY, UM, WE ALREADY HEARD FROM, UH, SANDRA. HI, MY NAME IS JACQUELINE RENOSO OF KALI MOTA, LLC. FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS, THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY CONTINUES TO KEEP US IN THE DARK ON ANY UPDATES WHATSOEVER REGARDING OUR APPLICATION FOR A CANNABIS BUSINESS LICENSE. THE STATUS OF UPDATED RANKINGS, A REPORT BACK ON APPLICATIONS WITHDRAWN, CANCELED, REVOKED, RENEGOTIATED, OR THE OUTCOMES OF THE INVESTIGATION OF DIRECT REPORTS OF FRAUD AND ABUSE. IN THIS PROCESS, FOR THE RECORD, YOU HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO VALIDATE LOCAL OWNERSHIP OF YOUR CANNABIS BUSINESS OPERATORS BEFORE YOU ISSUE A LICENSE, BEFORE YOU SIGN A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, BEFORE YOU FINALIZE YOUR RANKINGS AND ISSUE PREFERENTIAL POINTS. THIS IS WHAT YOUR LOCAL OWNER ACKNOWLEDGEMENT FORM DIRECTED YOU TO DO, TO PROTECT YOUR CITIZENS FROM PREDATORY AND FRAUDULENT ACTIONS. YOU DO NOT FIGURE IT OUT AFTER THE STORE IS UP AND RUNNING. THE CITY COMMITTED TO PRIORITIZE AT LEAST TWO LOCAL OWNERS. HOWEVER, THIS PRIORITY TO SOCIAL EQUITY WAS NOT ENFORCED. WAS IT CONVENIENT FOR YOU TO LOOK THE OTHER WAY, NOT PAY ATTENTION TO THE DETAILS, NOT REVIEW THE OFFICIAL OPERATING AGREEMENTS, AND ENSURE THEY INCLUDED THE SPECIFIED LANGUAGE REQUIRED BY THE CITY TO PROTECT THE INTEREST OF REAL LOCAL OWNERS BY NOT DOING YOUR JOB. YOU'VE INVITED FRAUD AND ABUSE AND THIS NEGLIGENCE IS PERVASIVE. WHAT ARE YOU HIDING AND WHOM ARE YOU PROTECTING? I HAVE LOST CONFIDENCE IN YOUR CITY ATTORNEY AND YOUR CITY MANAGER WHEN OFFERED AN OPPORTUNITY TO CORRECT AND SETTLE WHAT IS OBVIOUSLY A FLAWED CANNABIS PROCESS. YOUR ATTORNEY IS CHOOSING TO LITIGATE ON THE BACKS OF HARDWORKING [00:15:01] CITIZENS. THEY HAVE NOT FULFILLED THEIR OBLIGATIONS EITHER UNDER THE BROWN ACT. MR. BEN MARTINEZ SERVED AS THEIR HEARING OFFICER AND NOW HAS BEEN PROMOTED TO CITY MANAGER WITH ULTIMATE AUTHORITY TO DECIDE THE FUTURE OF CANNABIS APPLICANTS. ARE WE FACING A DOUBLE WHAMMY? WE'RE HERE TO TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS, TO CREATE JOBS, TO GROW YOUR TAX REVENUE, TO SERVE AS A MODEL FOR ETHICAL BUSINESSES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT. YEAH. WE HAVE BEEN TREATED LIKE SECOND CLASS CITIZENS. OKAY. DO THE RIGHT THING NEXT WEEK. ALICIA MORRISON BE FOLLOWED BY SANDRA, IS IT SCHILLER, RIGHT? SCHELLER SCHILLER. I'LL GET THAT RIGHT. YEP. I'LL GET THAT RIGHT. YET AFTER ALL THESE YEARS AND, UH, TO BE FOLLOWED BY, UH, JEFFREY SCHROCK. GOOD EVENING. ON DECEMBER 2ND AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, UM, IT WAS BROUGHT UP THAT THERE WAS A POSSIBLE CONTAMINATION AT THE CORNER OF SWEETWATER AND ORANGE STREET WHERE THAT GAS STATION PROJECT WAS GONNA BE DEVELOPED. IT WAS MENTIONED THAT AERIAL PHOTOS FROM 1955 HAD BEEN LOOKED AT AND THERE WAS NO INDICATION OF SUCH BUSINESS BEING AT THAT LOCATION. SO I HAVE HERE IN MY HAND, UM, OIL AND HAZARDOUS SUBSTANCES POLLUTION CONTINGENCY PLAN FOR REGION NINE INLAND WATERS FROM THE US ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY, NOVEMBER, 1972. ON THERE, THERE'S A CLEANUP CONTRACTOR'S LIST, COMMERCIAL CLEANUP CONTRACTORS. THESE ARE COMMERCIAL CONTRACTORS WHOSE BUSINESSES IN WHOLE OR IN PART CONSISTS OF CLEANING UP WATER POLLUTION SPILLS. GENERALLY SPEAKING, THESE ORGANIZATIONS ARE CAPABLE OF HANDLING COMPLETE CLEANUP OPERATIONS, FURNISHING ALL NECESSARY SUPPLIES, EQUIPMENT, AND SERVICES. THE FOLLOWING LIST OF CLEANUP CONTRACTORS OF REGION NINE, PAGE THREE OF THEIR LIST IS HOWARD G MORRISON, CESSPOOLS AND SEPTIC TANKS. 2325 SWEETWATER ROAD, NASHVILLE CITY, CALIFORNIA 7 1 4 4 7 7 2 1 9 5 NEAR SAN DIEGO. SO THERE IS PROOF FROM THE GOVERNMENT, THE EPA, THAT A BUSINESS WAS THERE, THERE WAS AN UNDERGROUND FUEL TANK ON THAT PROPERTY. THAT TANK WAS REMOVED. AND YOU GUYS HAVE DONE NOTHING TO TRY TO INVESTIGATE ANY TYPE OF CONTAMINATION OR ILLEGAL REMOVAL OF THAT TANK. IT WAS BROUGHT UP AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. DOYLE HAS TALKED ABOUT IT TO YOU GUYS WHERE HE TALKED ABOUT PERSONALLY PUMPING GAS FROM THAT GAS DISPENSER, SANDRA, AND THEN FOLLOWED BY JEFFREY SCHROCK. DON'T THROW ANYTHING. BARRY, I HEARD YOU THROWING PAPERS TODAY. NOT VERY NICE. NOT A GOOD EXAMPLE. HOPEFULLY HUMAN RESOURCES IS WATCHING YOU. I HAVE A LITTLE SONG FOR YOU TODAY. COME AND LISTEN TO A STORY ABOUT A MAN NAMED RON MAYOR OF THE TOWN WITH HIS MORALS UP AND GONE HELPING A WRINKLE WITH A DEAL THROUGH THE DOOR WHILE THE PEOPLE CRIED OUT. AIN'T THAT AGAINST THE LAW? MONEY THAT IS BACK ROOM DEALS SWEETHEART BIDS. WELL, THE FIRST THING YOU KNOW, RON'S IN THE KNOW HELPING EDDIE BRICO MAKE THE TAXPAYER'S DOUGH SAID IN THE CITY, WE CAN GREASE A LITTLE WHEEL AND SUDDENLY, OH, EDDIE'S GOT A SWEET DEAL. PERMITS. THAT IS FAST TRACKS PLANS, NO QUESTIONS ASKED. NOW, EDDIE'S GOT ON THE COUNCIL JUST IN THE PAST, BUT RON'S SMILING LIKE A CAT IN THE TREE SAYING WHAT'S GOOD FOR EDDIE IS ALSO GOOD FOR ME. SO NOW THE TOWN'S ASKED WHERE THE MONEY WENT. WELL, EDDIE'S IN A RIBBON CUTTING WITH EVERY CENT. RON SAYS, HEY FOLKS, THERE'S NOTHING WRONG BUT JUST MUST JUSTIN MIGHT BE HUMMING A DIFFERENT SONG. TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE JEFFREY SCHROCK. WELL, EVEN FOLKS, I, I DON'T THINK I CAN, I'LL DO THAT ONE. ANYWAY, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. COUNCIL AND STAFF, NATIONAL CITY RESIDENTS. UH, LET ME JUST START BY SAYING, I HOPE EVERYBODY'S ENJOYING OUR EARLY SPRING. WE'RE GONNA GET A LITTLE RAIN AND, UH, MAYOR, YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB. UH, WEST MAYOR BUSH, YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB. AS LONG AS WE'RE IN NOT VIOLATING STATE LAW WITH CANNABIS LAW, YOU KNOW, THE DISPENSARIES, THEN THESE PEOPLE HAVE A STALE ARGUMENT. BOTTOM LINE. YOU KNOW, AS LONG AS WE'RE IN, IN INVI IN, IN COOPERATION WITH STATE LAW, THEN WE'RE DOING WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING. I THINK WE SHOULD BE FOCUSED ON THE FACT THAT OUR GOVERNOR IS WASTING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON OUR MONEY FIGHTING THE FEDERAL, UH, GOVERNMENT AND THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION ON ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. I THINK WE SHOULD BE DEEPLY CONCERNED THAT THE DEMOCRAT PARTY LIKES TO DEFEND MS 13 GANG MEMBERS FROM [00:20:01] BEING DEPORTED. WHERE DOES YOUR PARTY STAND FOR? WHAT DO YOU GUYS STAND FOR ANYMORE? THE IMMIGRANT PARTY IS LOST. I DON'T, I COULDN'T TELL YOU WHAT THEIR PARTY PORN STAND FOR ANYMORE. 'CAUSE THEY'RE LOST PARTY FOLKS. THEY, I MEAN, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE FEDERAL AND STATE LEVEL. OUR, OUR MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF OUR TAX DOLLARS ARE BEING WASTED TO, TO FIGHT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. YOU'RE NEVER GONNA WIN FIGHTING THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ON ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. THAT'S WHY THEY'RE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. THEY'RE NEVER GONNA TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER. AND CALIFORNIA IS NEVER GONNA BREAK AWAY FROM THE UNION, BECOME ITS OWN STATE BECAUSE WE CAN'T AFFORD TO DO THAT. CAL CALIFORNIA CAN'T AFFORD ITS OWN SOCIAL SECURITY SYSTEM JUST ONE EXPENSE. AND THEY DON'T HAVE THEIR OWN MONEY SYSTEM. TWO PROBLEMS. SO BASICALLY WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IS IF OUR GOVERNOR DOESN'T COOPERATE WITH THIS ADMINISTRATION, HE'S GONNA FIND HIMSELF COSTING OUR STATE A LOT OF MONEY. 'CAUSE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS ABOUT TO PASS A ANTI SANCTUARY CITY AND STATE LAW, WHICH WILL BAN ALL FEDERAL FUNDING. WE'LL LOSE ALL OF OUR GRANTS, WE'LL LOSE EVERYTHING. SO WE SHOULD BE VERY CAREFUL DEALING WITH IMMIGRANT ISSUES RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THIS PRESIDENT IS NOT PLAYING GAMES. HE MEANS BUSINESS. AND, UH, WE SHOULD BE CAREFUL WHO WE DEFEND. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT. NO MORE DEFENDING MS 13. GUYS. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. WE NOW HEAR FROM OUR, UH, ZOOM. THANK YOU PEGGY WALKER. AH, THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. YOU MAY KNOW THAT APRIL IS EARTH MONTH AND THE COUNTY IS OBSERVING IT. WITH AN ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY CHA CHALLENGE AND A FOCUS ON HAZARDOUS WASTE, THE CITY CAN PARTICIPATE. AND ONE WAY ENVIRONMENTALISTS SUGGEST IS THROUGH BETTER MANAGEMENT OF TOXIC E-CIG DISPOSAL, E-CIGS CREATE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF POUNDS OF HAZARDOUS WASTE THREATENING OUR ECOSYSTEMS. THIS WASTE IS WORSE FOR THE ENVIRONMENT THAN CIGARETTE BUTTS. IT DOES NOT BIODEGRADE, BUT BREAKS DOWN INTO MICROPLASTICS AND HAZARDOUS CHEMICALS THAT POLLUTE WATERWAYS AND HARM WILDLIFE. IT'S SUCH A SIGNIFICANT PROBLEM THAT THE STATE ASSEMBLY IS CURRENTLY CONSIDERING A BAN ON THE SALE OF SINGLE USE DISPOSABLE E-CIGS BECAUSE OF THE HAZARDOUS NATURE OF THE PLASTICS, CHEMICALS, AND LITHIUM ION BATTERIES USED IN THEIR MANUFACTURER. REPORTS SHOW ABOUT FOUR AND A HALF E-CIGS ARE DISCARDED EVERY SECOND. AND THOSE WHO VAPE ARE MOSTLY UNINFORMED. THAT E-CIGS CONTAIN TOXIC SUBSTANCES CAUSING ENVIRONMENTAL HARM. MANY E-CIG USERS REPORT THROWING AWAY AND PROPERLY RECYCLING OR LITTERING E-CIG DEVICES. UNFORTUNATELY, MANUFACTURERS IRRESPONSIBLY DO NOT PROVIDE DISPOSAL INFORMATION FOR USE FOR USED E-CIG BATTERIES OR EMPTY PODS. AND IN A SURVEY, MORE THAN HALF OF USERS FOUND IT INCONVENIENT TO DISPOSE OF THEM RESPONSIBLY. SO I CAME TO URGE YOU TO ADDRESS THIS. PLEASE CONSIDER THESE OPTIONS FROM OTHER CITIES REQUIRE SELLERS TO TAKE BACK AND RECYCLE USED ECIS. PROVIDE E-CIG DROP OFF SITES, AND HOLD VAPE ACK VAPE TAKEBACK EVENTS. I HOPE YOU'LL CONSIDER THESE FOR THE GOOD OF OUR ENVIRONMENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU BECKY. WRAP. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. MY NAME IS BECKY RAP AND I'M HERE TONIGHT TO SUGGEST THAT OUR CITY TAKE A MORE SERIOUS LOOK AT THE PUBLIC HEALTH RISKS SURROUNDING MARIJUANA USE. ESPECIALLY ITS GROWING IMPACT ON HEART HEALTH AMONG YOUNG PEOPLE. JUST LAST MONTH, TWO MAJOR STUDIES LED BY DR. CAMEL AT BOSTON UNIVERSITY SCHOOL OF MEDICINE, INCLUDING ONE PUBLISHED IN THE JOURNAL OF AMERICAN COLLEGE OF CARDIOLOGY, FOUND THAT MARIJUANA USERS UNDER THE AGE OF 50 ARE SIX TIMES MORE LIKELY TO SUFFER A HEART ATTACK AND FOUR TIMES MORE LIKELY TO HAVE A STROKE. A COMPANION STUDY OF 75 MILLION PEOPLE REINFORCED THESE SAME BINDINGS. I'M BRINGING THIS IN INFO, THIS INFO TO THE CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE POOR HEART HEALTH DOESN'T JUST IMPACT HOSPITALS. IT LEADS TO INCREASED FIRST RESPONDER CALLS TO POLICE, FIRE, AND LIFEGUARDS. IT PUTS ADDED STRAIN ON EMERGENCY SERVICES, WHICH IMPACTS OUR RESPONSE TIMES AND BUDGETS. AND IT RAISES THE RISKS OF, UM, CRASHES WHILE DRIVING, BIKING OR BOATING. [00:25:01] AND OVER TIME, UNTREATED HEALTH ISSUES CAN LEAD TO ECONOMIC HARDSHIP AND EVEN HOMELESSNESS. HOMELESSNESS, WHICH WE ARE ALL WORKING SO HARD TO ADDRESS. THE DECISION TO EXTEND OPERATING HOURS FOR MARIJUANA BUSINESSES JUST ADDS TO THE PROBLEM. LONGER HOURS MAY SEEM LIKE A SMALL ADJUSTMENT, BUT THEY REPRESENT A CLEAR SHIFT TOWARDS INCREASED AVAILABILITY, INCREASED USE, AND POTENTIALLY INCREASED HARM. ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A PRODUCT THAT NOW HAS WELL DOCUMENT DOCUMENTED LINKS TO SERIOUS HEALTH ISSUES, INCLUDING HEART ATTACKS AND STROKES. WE WOULDN'T ALLOW, ALLOW, UH, ALCOHOL SALES TO EXPAND HOURS WITHOUT CONSIDERING PUBLIC SAFETY IMPACT. WE SHOULDN'T TREAT MARIJUANA ANY DIFFERENTLY, ESPECIALLY NOW THAT WE KNOW MORE ABOUT ITS HEALTH RISKS. PLEASE CONSIDER THE REAL HEALTH CONSEQUENCES AND THE ADDED BURDEN THIS MAY PLACE ON OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AND COMMUNITY RESOURCES. KEEP THE CURRENT HOURS IN PLACE. PUBLIC SAFETY AND PUBLIC HEALTH SHOULD COME BEFORE PROFIT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MADISON REP. HI, GOOD EVENING COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS MADISON AND I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY ABOUT AN IMPORTANT PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE. MARIJUANA ADDICTION RESEARCH SHOWS THAT UP TO 30% OF MARIJUANA USERS MAY DEVELOP WHAT'S KNOWN AS CANNABIS USE DISORDER OR WHAT'S NOW BEING CALLED MARIJUANA ADDICTION. JUST YESTERDAY, MY HUSBAND'S COLLEGE BUDDY CAME OVER FOR DINNER AND LEFT A MARIJUANA EDIBLE GUMMY AT OUR HOUSE. WE HAVE THREE YOUNG KIDS, SO THAT WAS VERY CONCERNING AND WE MADE SURE TO GET RID OF IT BEFORE ANY ACCIDENTS COULD HAPPEN. I HOPE WE AS A CITY DON'T LOSE SIGHT OF THE REAL RISKS THAT MARIJUANA CAN POSE, PARTICULARLY FOR YOUNG PEOPLE. CHILDREN ARE PARTICULARLY AT RISK WITH EDIBLES AND VAPING PRODUCTS OFTEN RESEMBLING CANDY OR FLAVORED SNACKS. ACCIDENTAL INGESTION HAS BECOME A GROWING CONCERN AND MANY PEOPLE WHO USE USE IT RECREATIONALLY AND MEDICALLY. AND SO THAT MEANS THAT WHETHER THEY'RE USING IT CASUALLY OR MEDICALLY, A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER CAN BECOME DEPENDENT. EXPERIENCE CRAVINGS, WITHDRAWAL SYMPTOMS, AND CONTINUING USE DESPITE NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES TO THEIR HEALTH, RELATIONSHIPS, OR WORK LIFE. THIS WAS CERTAINLY THE CASE AS WE TALKED TO MY HUSBAND'S FRIEND. AND EVEN MEDICINAL USE IS NOT WITHOUT RISK BECAUSE 80% OF MEDICAL MARIJUANA USERS ALSO USE IT RECREATIONALLY, INCREASING THE CHANCE OF DEVELOPING A DEPENDENCY BY RECOGNIZING THE SIGNS OF MARIJUANA ADDICTION AND ENCOURAGING EARLY INTERVENTION, WE CAN HELP MORE PEOPLE LIVE HEALTHIER, MORE PRODUCTIVE LIVES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND LEADERSHIP ON THIS IMPORTANT ISSUE. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THAT CONCLUDES THE, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THE GENERAL. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH, WE HAVE ONE MORE SPEAKER, UH, DOYLE MORRISON. HELLO. THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK. I THOUGHT I HAD PUT ONE IN, BUT I, APPARENTLY I DIDN'T. UM, I WANTED TO, UH, DO A FOLLOW UP ON WHAT MY WIFE WAS TALKING ABOUT. UM, AT SWEETWATER AND ORANGE, THE, UM, IT'S BEEN SAID BY ME THAT THERE WAS UNDERGROUND TANK AND BUSINESS, UH, THERE AT SWEETWATER AND ORANGE. AND SO I HAVE A, I HAVE A PHOTOGRAPH, AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH FROM 1964. AND YOU CAN SEE ALL THE TRUCKS FROM THE BUSINESS ON THE PROPERTY. YOU CAN SEE A NEW EXCAVATED UNDERGROUND TANK WITH A TRENCH LINE THAT GOES OVER TO THE CORNER OF THE QUONSET HUT WHERE THE BUSINESS WAS RAN, WHERE THE UNDERGROUND STORAGE PAINT DISPENSER PUMP WAS. I KNOW IT'S BLURRY, IT'S FROM 1964. THE TECHNOLOGY WASN'T THAT GOOD. BUT, UM, I DO HAVE FIRSTHAND KNOWLEDGE OF THAT I BEING THERE. HERE'S ANOTHER PICTURE. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THE DRIVEWAY IS COMPLETE. THIS IS AFTER THAT THERE'S AN ARROW WITH A LITTLE TINY RED SPOT THERE ALSO, UM, VERY HARD TO SEE BECAUSE OF THE TECHNOLOGY AND THE BLURRINESS OF THE PICTURE. I DO HAVE FIRSTHAND KNOWLEDGE OF THAT PUMPING FROM THAT. I, UH, HAVE ANOTHER PICTURE HERE. THIS IS MUCH LATER. YOU CAN SEE THE QUALITY OF THE PICTURE IS IMPROVING BECAUSE THE TECHNOLOGY IS IMPROVING. YOU CAN SEE THAT THE DRIVEWAY HAS AN EXCAVATION WHERE VEGETATION IS GROWING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DRIVEWAY AT THE SAME LOCATION WHERE THE INITIAL ASPHALT PATCH WAS FROM THAT, UH, UNDERGROUND TANK BEING PUT IN. AND THEN HERE'S ANOTHER ONE. IT'S A LITTLE CLOSER UP ZOOMED, SO IT GETS A LITTLE BLURRY, BUT IT, IT'S STILL THERE. AND SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT BECAUSE IT'S BEEN SAID THAT IT, YOU KNOW, THERE, THEY DON'T NOT [00:30:01] BELIEVE ME THAT THERE WAS AN UNDERGROUND TANK THERE, BUT, UM, BUT THERE'S JUST NO RECORD OF IT. MM-HMM . THANK YOU FOR FINDING THAT. SO I'VE BEEN SHOWING RECORDS OF IT. HOPEFULLY YOU GUYS WOULD CONSIDER IT IF THIS COMES UP. WE WANNA MAKE SURE ENVIRONMENTALLY WE'RE TAKING CARE OF THAT. THANK YOU. ONE MORE SPEAKER. ED NETTEL. UM, I'M HERE TO, UH, TELL YOU WHAT YOU ALL ALREADY KNOW, BUT I HAVE TO SAY IT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, YOU'RE FACING A POTENTIAL DEFICIT OF MORE $6 MILLION. I HOPE YOU HAVE GOOD LUCK IN FIGURING OUT THIS SOON. BUT WHAT I'M HERE ALSO TELL YOU THAT, UH, I THINK THERE'S SOME SOLUTIONS. I'VE MENTIONED THEM BEFORE, THE LAST AL UH, LAST ALLOCATION PLAN. MY UNDERSTANDING FOR DISTRIBUTING YOUR INDIRECT COSTS, YOUR ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS WAS DONE IN 2018 BEFORE YOU HAD YOUR, UM, YOUR DISTRICT LINE ITEM BUDGET PUT IN THERE. SO YOUR UNDERSTATING WHAT YOU CAN DISTRIBUTE AND CLAIM FOR YOUR FEES AND YOUR WHAT GOES INTO THE CALCULATIONS FOR YOUR FEES AND YOUR GRANTS. SO NOW YOU KNOW, I'M ASKING IF YOU CAN UPDATE THAT AND SO THAT YOU CAN CLAIM AND RECOVER THAT COST AND SAVE OUR GENERAL FUND. UM, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE THE MSA UH, AGREEMENT. WE NEED THAT MSA AGREEMENT MONEY NOW, YOU KNOW, THIS IS BEFORE YEAR END. I MEAN, YOU'RE GONNA BE FACING A HUMONGOUS, UH, DEFICIT. AND YOU KNOW THAT LOOKING DOWN, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S COUNTLESS, UM, UH, 1 0 5 ISSUES THAT ARE JUST DISTRACTING STAFF'S. FOCUS, FOCUS ON THE BUDGET AND THE FISCAL ISSUES THAT ARE IMMEDIATELY NEED ATTENTION RIGHT NOW. YOU KNOW, UM, ETHICAL PROBLEMS, YOU KNOW, WELL MY BOTTOM LINE IS THIS. YOU KNOW, WE NEED BETTER CITY MANAGEMENT ON THESE ISSUES THAT YOU DISCUSS. WE NEED TO FOCUS ON WHAT'S IMPORTANT. YOU NEED TO PRIORITIZE WHAT'S IMPORTANT. AND I DON'T THINK YOU'RE DOING THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, BEFORE WE GET [9.1 Public Hearing and Adoption of Updated Sewer Capacity Fees. (Part 1 of 2)] INTO PRESENTATION, I'M GONNA ASK THE, UH, CITY ATTORNEY TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT ON ONE OF OUR ITEMS THAT'S ON THE AGENDA. 9.1. SO WITH RESPECT TO 9.1, THAT'S A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE ADOPTION OF AN UPDATED SEWER CAPACITY FEES. UM, WE HAVE DETERMINED THAT THE, UM, SEWER CAPACITY FEE ANALYSIS, THE MEMORANDUM THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THAT I ITEM WAS NOT MADE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC IN A TIMELY FASHION. THEREFORE, THE ONLY ACTION THAT COUNSEL CAN TAKE THIS EVENING WOULD BE TO CONTINUE THE ITEM. SO THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE HERE FOR TESTIMONY ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, WE WILL NOT BE CONSIDERING ANY TESTIMONY ON THE SUBSTANTIVE PORTION OF THE, THE REPORT ONLY AS TO THE MERITS OF A CONTINUANCE. OKAY. OKAY. JUST WANNA LET, LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT BEFORE WE GET TO THAT POINT. [6.1 Parks, Recreation and Senior Citizen's Advisory Committee - Annual Update] WITH THAT WE GET INTO PRESENTATIONS. FIRST ONE IS THE PARK RECREATION SENIOR CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE, THEIR ANNUAL UPDATE. AND I KNOW THE CHAIR IS NORA MCMAINS, BUT I DON'T SEE NOR, SO. ALRIGHT, WE'RE GO, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A STAFF PRESENTATION. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS TRACY LAMB. I AM THE INTERIM DIRECTOR FOR COMMUNITY SERVICE HERE IN NATIONAL CITY. BEEN, UH, ON THE JOB FOR A COUPLE MONTHS AND, UH, UH, CAME OUTTA RETIREMENT TO, UH, TO WORK WITH THIS GREAT TEAM OF INDIVIDUALS WHO REALLY LOOK AT PROVIDING SERVICE AS YOU DO TO THE CITIZENS OF THIS CITY. SO IT'S BEEN AN HONOR AND WE'RE HERE TO GIVE YOU A PRESENTATION. I WAS ABLE TO ATTEND ONE MEETING, SO I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO JOANNE HERE. UH, AND, UH, SHE'S GONNA TAKE YOU THROUGH OUR LITTLE PRESENTATION ABOUT OUR COM, UH, COMMITTEE AND THE COMMISSION. SO, JOANNE. GREAT. THANK YOU. HELLO, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I'M HERE TODAY TO SERVE AS THE LIAISON FOR THE CITY. UM, OUR CHAIRWOMAN, UNFORTUNATELY HAD A MEDICAL EMERGENCY, THEREFORE, I'D LIKE TO STILL PRESENT ON THE BEHALF OF THE COUNCIL OR THE COMMITTEE. SO, OUR PARK AND RECREATION SENIOR CITIZEN ADVISORY COMMITTEE CURRENTLY HAS SEVEN COMMISSIONERS. I'D GET THIS TO GO. THERE WE GO. THERE ARE OUR SEVEN COMMISSIONERS, NORA MCMAIN, JOSEPH CRAWFORD, JESUS. HE'S ON LATONYA HARRIS CHROME, SANTOS, RO, ALEXANDER FERNANDEZ, AND DANIEL PEREZ. THIS PAST YEAR IN 2024, WE HAVE HAD SIX MEETINGS. WE'RE DARK IN DECEMBER. OUR COMMITTEE HAS SERVED AS AN ADVISORY CAPACITY FOR, UM, ACTIVITY AND PROGRAM REFUND STATEMENT. UM, THEY HAVE PROVIDED SUPPORT WITH [00:35:01] SOME OF OUR SENIOR GRANT APPLICATIONS AND COLLABORATED WITH OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT ON AN A ED GRANT. UM, THEY ADVISED OUR STAFF ON SURVEY QUESTIONS TO ASK THE PUBLIC REGARDING OUR PROGRAMS, ACTIVITIES AND EVENTS. AND THEY HAVE SUPPORTED US THROUGHOUT THE YEAR AT, UH, VARIOUS SPECIAL EVENTS SUCH AS KIMBALL HOLIDAY AND, UM, OUR SENIOR DANCES. AND THAT WRAPS UP OUR PRESENTATION FOR THE YEAR. ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT, NEXT [6.2 Results of the Insurance Services Office (ISO) Survey] WE HAVE THE RESULTS OF OUR INSURANCE SERVICE OFFICE, THE IS ISO SURVEY. GOOD EVENING MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AND CITY STAFF. I THINK AN ANNOUNCEMENT OF THIS MAGNITUDE REQUIRES ME TO STAND IN FRONT OF YOU AND, UH, REALLY EXPRESS TO YOU HOW, HOW PROUD WE ARE. THIS A FIRE DEPARTMENT TOO. Y THIS MUST BE A VERY SERIOUS REPORT 'CAUSE YOU BROUGHT A LOT OF BACK UP . WELL, YOU KNOW, SIR, THIS HAS BEEN A LONG PERSONAL GOAL OF MINE. A LONG PROFESSIONAL GOAL OF MINE, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, AN ORGANIZATIONAL GOAL OF OURS TOO, TO REALLY GET TO THIS POSITION. SO I'M GONNA GO THROUGH OUR POWERPOINT HERE, AND AT THE END, I'LL, I'LL LEAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME FOR YOU TO ASK QUESTIONS, RIGHT? BUT YEAH, TO SAY THAT WE ARE EXTREMELY PROUD OF THIS ACCOMPLISHMENT IS, UH, THAT DOESN'T REALLY DO IT JUSTICE. THIS IS A CERTAINLY A, A HUGE, HUGE ACCOMPLISHMENT FOR YOUR 130 7-YEAR-OLD FIRE DEPARTMENT, THE OLDEST DEPARTMENT IN THE COUNTY, AND ONE THAT IS NEVER CLOSEST DOORS TO SERVE THE PUBLIC. SO, TO CULMINATE, UH, WITH THIS ACHIEVEMENT IS JUST A GREAT, GREAT HONOR FOR ALL OF US AND, UH, REALLY ALL OF THEM BACK THERE WITH YOUR SUPPORT. SO AN ISO CLASS ONE ACHIEVEMENT. YOU KNOW, WHAT IS AN ISO CLASS ONE ACHIEVEMENT? I'M SURE SOME OF YOU HAVE THAT QUESTION, RIGHT? AND I'LL BE BRIEF. AN I AN ISO CLASS ONE RATING IS THE HIGHEST RATING A FIRE DEPARTMENT CAN ACHIEVE, AWARDED BY THE INSURANCE SERVICES OFFICE. IT EVALUATES THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S CAPABILITIES, INCLUDING EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS, FIRE SUPPRESSION, WATER SUPPLY, AND COMMUNITY RISK REDUCTION. AND OF IMPORTANCE. ONLY ABOUT 1% OF DEPARTMENTS NATIONWIDE ACHIEVED THIS TOP RATING. LESS THAN 1%, ACTUALLY. SO WHY, WHY IS THAT IMPORTANT TO ALL OF US? TO, TO YOU, TO US AND TO OUR RESIDENTS AND OUR BUSINESS PARTNERS AND I, A CLASS ONE IS SO RATING DIRECTLY BENEFITS OUR RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES WITH IN HIGH ENHANCED FIRE PROTECTION SERVICES, AGAIN, THE TOP 1% OF THE NATION. RIGHT? THANK YOU. I WAS, I WAS NOT FALLING ASLEEP. YEAH. UM, UH, OF IMPORTANCE. IT LOWERS INSURANCE PREMIUMS FOR NOT ONLY OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO FOR ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS. UM, IT ALSO INCREASES COMMUNITY TRUST AND PUBLIC SAFETY. YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THE, THE VERY BEST FIRE DEPARTMENT SERVING NOT ONLY ALL OF YOU, BUT ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS AND OUR, OUR BUSINESS PARTNERS ON, ON OUR FELLOW EMPLOYEES. AND IT REALLY REINFORCES WITH US A COMMITMENT TO CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT. AND WE'LL GO THROUGH THE RATING AND I'LL SHOW YOU WHERE WE CAN IMPROVE. BECAUSE, UH, IN OUR OPINION, THE FIRST DAY YOU, YOU START, YOU STOP GETTING BETTER. THE FIRST DAY YOU START GETTING WORSE. SO WE, WE LIVE BY THAT MANTRA. SO THIS SLIDE WAS COMPILED A FEW MONTHS AGO. SO RIGHT HERE ON THE TOP, IT SAYS ONLY 42 OUT OF ABOUT 900 FIRE DEPARTMENTS IN CALIFORNIA HAVE ACHIEVED THE CLASS ONE RATING. I PROBABLY SHOULD SAY 43 NOW THAT WE'RE PART OF THE CLUB. AND THAT PUTS US IN A, IN A VERY ELITE GROUP, NATIONWIDE, ONLY 412. NOW, WITH US BEING PART OF THAT, OUT OF 40,000 FIRE DEPARTMENTS HOLD THIS TOP RANKING TO PUT THAT IN PERSPECTIVE 400 OUTTA 40,000. AND WE ARE ONE OF THOSE 412, RIGHT? UM, AND THIS RECOGNITION REFLECTS OUR DEDICATION TO EXCELLENCE AND COMMITMENT TO PUBLIC SAFETY. SOMETHING THAT WE HOLD, HOLD VERY DEAR AND WE ARE VERY PROUD OF. NOW, AN ISO RATING IS VERY COMPREHENSIVE AND WE, WE, WE'VE SHORTENED IT HERE, BUT, UH, IT'S BASED ON FOUR KEY AREAS OF EVALUATION, ONE OF THEM BEING EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS, OUR DISPATCH CENTER. AND THAT'S WORTH 10 POINTS OUT OF A POSSIBLE 105 THAT YOUR FIRE DEPARTMENT ON THE OPERATIONS SIDE'S WORTH 50 POINTS. THAT'S ONE OF THE, THE LARGEST RATINGS. AND THAT IS OUR STAFFING, OUR TRAINING, OUR EQUIPMENT, AND [00:40:01] OUR RESPONSE CAPABILITIES OF THE OPERATIONAL SIDE OF THE HOUSE. UH, OUR WATER SYSTEM, THAT'S 40, THAT'S 40 POINTS OUT OF THE 1 0 5. IT'S CRITICALLY IMPORTANT. AND WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE THE SWEETWATER AUTHORITY AS, AS OUR PARTNERS, ENSURING THAT WE HAVE THE ADEQUATE WATER SUPPLY TO, TO, TO PROVIDE OUR ENTIRE CITY WITH, WITH AN ADEQUATE FLOW AND, UH, AND SYSTEM TO ALLOW US TO, TO COMBAT ANY LARGE SCALE OR SMALL SCALE FIRE. IT'S, UH, THAT WAS ONE OF THE AREAS OF, OF THE GREATEST INCREASE FOR US FROM OUR PREVIOUS RATING. AND WE DID THAT THROUGH A CLOSE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE SWEETWATER AUTHORITY. AND THEN COMMUNITY RISK REDUCTION, ALTHOUGH THAT IS ONLY WORTH 5.5 POINTS IN MY OPINION, REALLY, THAT IS A CORNERSTONE OF WHAT WE DO IN, IN THE, IN THE PREVENTION SIDE AND REACHING OUT TO OUR COMMUNITY AND ENSURING THAT YOU HAVE A SAFE COMMUNITY BY WHICH TO CONDUCT YOUR BUSINESS AND TO RESIDE AND TO RECREATE. IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT COMPONENT OF THAT. AND THAT INCLUDES OUR FIRE PREVENTION, PUBLIC EDUCATION, AND OUR INVESTIGATION SERVICES. SO HERE IS A BREAKDOWN ON, ON HOW WE DID AND, UH, AND SOME OF THE AREAS OF IMPROVEMENT. OUR ISO RATING IS, WAS BASED ON A 105.5 POINT SCALE, WHICH SCORES ASSIGNED TO EACH OF THOSE CATEGORIES. AND THE EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS SIDE, WE GOT AN 8.87 OUT OF 10. WE HAVE A VERY STRONG PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO EMERGENCY AND COMMUNICATIONS DATA CENTER THAT ASSISTS US IN, IN REALLY PROVIDING A TOP-NOTCH SERVICE TO OUR RESIDENTS. WE'VE INVESTED A LOT OF TIME PARTNERSHIP WITH THAT ENTITY TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE A TIMELY RESPONSE TO ANY EMERGENCY HERE IN THE CITY. AND THAT IS REALLY ONE OF THE FACTORS THAT IS, THAT WE ARE, UH, MOST HEAVILY VALUED HOW FAST WE CAN GET TO WHEN YOU FIRST DIAL 9 1 1, WHEN YOU ACCESS 9 1 1 UNTIL WE, WHEN WE ARRIVE AT YOUR DOORSTEP. AND WE SUCCEED THAT OVER 90% OF THE TIME WITHIN NATIONAL STANDARDS. SO IT'S, UH, THAT'S A KEY COMPONENT OF WHAT WE DO. YOUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, THE OPERATIONS SIDE, YOU KNOW, THE FIRE ENGINES AND THE FIRE TRUCKS AND THE FIREFIGHTERS ARE STANDING BEHIND ME. THAT IS A 43.4 OUTTA 50. SO WE GOT A LITTLE ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT THERE. THAT'S OKAY. 'CAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE HEADING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. THEY KNOW THAT. AND I DON'T, AND I KNOW THAT WE HAVE A TRAINING TOWER IN OUR BACKYARD, BUT ONE OF THE VERY FEW AGENCIES HERE IN THE COUNTY THAT HAS THAT IN YOUR BACKYARD. SO IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO TRAIN, BUT IT TAKES AWAY THE EXCUSE TO NOT DO SO GREAT, RIGHT? JUST RIGHT IN YOUR BACKYARD. UM, WATER SUPPLY, WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT. 37.51 OUTTA 40, AND THAT WAS THE AREA OF A LOT OF GROWTH. AND AGAIN, WE HAVE A ROBUST WATER SUPPLY SYSTEM HERE IN THE CITY. UH, I THINK WE ALL KNOW WHAT HAPPENED IN, IN, UH, LA EARLY THIS YEAR AND THE ISSUES WITH THEIR WATER SUPPLY SYSTEM. AND, AND IN REALITY, NO WATER SUPPLY SYSTEM IN THE WORLD IS DESIGNED TO, TO HANDLE SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT REST ASSURED THAT HERE IN, IN OUR CITY, WE ARE SERVED BY A GREAT ENTITY IN, IN, IN SWEETWATER AUTHORITY, AND WE HAVE A GREAT PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM. AND THEN AGAIN, COMMUNITY RISK REDUCTION, RIGHT? REALLY THE HALLMARK OF WHAT WE DO, PREVENTION AND EDUCATION IS KEY TO OUR SUCCESS. AND WE GOT A FOUR, 4.06 OUTTA 5.5. SO OUR TOTAL SCORE WAS 92.45 OUTTA 1 0 5. SO THE WAY THAT I SEE THAT THERE IS, UH, CERTAINLY ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT. WE'RE JUST GETTING, WE JUST GOT IN THE DOOR AND WE'RE NOT DONE YET. SO HOW DID WE ACHIEVE THIS PRESTIGIOUS RANKING, RIGHT? UH, THIS ACHIEVEMENT WAS MADE THROUGH INVESTMENT IN STATE-OF-THE-ART FIGHTER FIGHTING FIREFIGHTING EQUIPMENT AND TECHNOLOGY. AND WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED THAT WITH YOUR SUPPORT. JUST THIS PAST YEAR, WE'VE RECEIVED ABOUT $1.5 MILLION IN NEW STATE-OF-THE-ART EQUIPMENT. AND AGAIN, THAT IS TO SUPPORT OF OUR RESIDENTS AND COUNCIL BECAUSE IN, IN TI THAT EQUIPMENT BELONGS TO ALL OF YOU. WE MAINTAIN IT, OPERATE IT, AND BRING IT TO YOUR DOOR WHEN YOU NEED IT. BUT, UH, THAT IS THE GREATEST SOURCE OF PRIDE FOR US, AND IT SHOULD BE FOR EVERY RESIDENT. AND, UH, HERE AND HERE IN NATIONAL CITY. THAT'S THEIR EQUIPMENT THAT YOU'VE ALL SUPPORTED US IN, IN, IN, UM, IN ACQUIRING. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. AGAIN, THE TOWER, THE COMPREHENSIVE TRAINING PROGRAM FOR OUR FIREFIGHTERS. AND I THINK IN, IN THE COUNTY, WE ARE RESPECTED FOR OUR, OUR REALLY OUR OUR COMMITMENT TO TRAINING, RIGHT? UM, IN OUR LINE OF WORK, YOU RARELY GET A SECOND CHANCE. SO WHEN THE OPPORTUNITY PRESENTS, YOU GOTTA TAKE IT. AND YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN TRAINING IS IS A HALLMARK. WE HAVE A FANTASTIC TRAINING DIVISION AND WE REALLY HANG OUR HAT ON THAT. AND THAT'S WHAT ALLOWS, ALLOWS US TO HAVE SUCH A GREAT OPERATIONAL SIDE OF THE, OF THE DEPARTMENT. UH, VERY STRONG LOCAL PARTNERSHIPS WITH SAN DIEGO METRO DISPATCH ARE DISPATCHING AUTHORITY, SWEETWATER AUTHORITY, AS WE SPOKE A MR AND AMERICAN MEDICAL RESPONSE. AND THEY PROVIDE THE AMBULANCES THAT TRANSPORT PATIENTS HERE IN THE CITY. WE'VE HAD AN OVER A 21 YEAR, UH, RELATIONSHIP IN WORKING COLLABORATIVELY WITH A MR AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, OUR ADJACENT FIRE DEPARTMENTS HERE IN THE CITY. WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH EQUIPMENT OR PERSONNEL TO STAFF WHAT [00:45:01] WE WOULD CALL A FIRST ALARM. SO WE RELY ON AUTOMATIC AID AGREEMENTS WITH THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO, CHULA VISTA, AND BONITA TO THE EAST. AND WE WORK WITH 'EM SEAMLESSLY. WE TRAIN WITH THEM SEAMLESSLY. AND, UH, AND THOSE PARTNERSHIPS ALLOW, ALLOW US TO, TO REALLY ENABLE US TO RESPOND ADEQUATELY TO ANY TYPE OF EMERGENCY, WHETHER IT BE FROM A, A MEDICAL AID TO A MULTI-ARM FIRE IN EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN. AND AGAIN, IMPLEMENTATION OF EFFECTIVE COMMUNITY RISK REDUCTION STRATEGIES YOU WILL SEE COMING ACROSS THE DIOCESE. I THINK OUR, OUR NEXT MEETING, OUR, UH, WE'RE UPDATING OUR ORDINANCE TO ALLOW US REALLY CLEAR AUTHORITY ON, ON WHAT WE LOOK AT HERE IN THE CITY TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE A SAFE COMMUNITY FOR OUR RESIDENTS, FOR OUR VISITORS, AND ALSO FOR OUR BUSINESS OWNERS AND COMMUNITY. AND, UH, COMMUNITY RISK REDUCTION. AGAIN, IT'S A HUGE HALLMARK OF WHAT WE DO. AND IN MY OPINION, THEY SHOULD BE A, THEY SHOULD GIVE A GREATER, A GREATER, UH, POINT ALLOTMENT. BUT WE'RE DOING OKAY THERE. AND THEN LOOKING AHEAD, YOU KNOW, UH, WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE? SO WE REMAIN DEDICATED TO MAINTAINING THIS HIGH STANDARD BY CONTINUING TO INVEST IN OUR PEOPLE AND OUR EQUIPMENT, RIGHT? WE COULD HAVE THE NICEST EQUIPMENT, BUT WITHOUT THE RIGHT PEOPLE, WE'RE NOT GONNA ACHIEVE ANYTHING. SO THAT'S A BIG PRIORITY FOR ME, UH, TO THAT WE RECRUIT AND FIND THE RIGHT PEOPLE TO COME SERVE ALONGSIDE US TO GIVE YOU THAT SERVICE. YOU KNOW, STRENGTHENING OUR COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND EDUCATION PROGRAMS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS IS START A OPEN ENROLLING PROGRAM WHERE WE BRING IN LOCAL RESIDENTS, LOCAL YOUTH, AND, UH, AND REALLY INVITE 'EM TO OUR FIRE STATION. DO RIDE ALONGS WITH THEM. AND A COUPLE OF 'EM HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL. I BELIEVE TWO OF THEM ARE STANDING BACK THERE SOMEWHERE TONIGHT, . UM, WHICH IS A, A GREAT, A GREAT ACHIEVEMENT FOR US. UM, AND THEN ALSO COLLABORATING WITH YOU TO MAINTAIN THESE HIGH STANDARDS, RIGHT? WE, WE, WE COULD NOT DO THIS WITHOUT YOUR SUPPORT. IT'S CERTAINLY, UM, OUR ABILITY TO, TO, TO GET TO THIS CLASS ONE RATING. YOU, YOU'RE A VERY BIG PART OF ALL OF YOU BECAUSE YOU HAVE SUPPORTED, UH, OUR ASKS, OUR WANTS. AND, UM, AND I'VE BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE OF, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND CERTAINLY WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO IMPROVE RELATIONSHIPS, RIGHT? UH, SAN DIEGO EMERGENCY COMMAND DATA CENTER, WE WILL BE PROVIDING THEM WITH, UH, THEIR ANNUAL LUNCH ON THURSDAY. SO, AS YOU ALL KNOW, RELATIONSHIPS ARE, ARE KEY IN A GOOD WAY TO, IS BY, BY FEEDING PEOPLE, RIGHT? YOU FEED THEM, THEY'RE HAPPY. UH, WITH THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO FIRE AND RESCUE DEPARTMENT, WE SHARE A BORDER TO THE NORTH WITH THEM, UH, WITH THEIR BUSIEST BATTALION. AND, UH, WE HELP EACH OTHER ON A, ON A DAILY BASIS. WE HAVE A VERY GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO. THEY DO NOT HAVE A TRAINING TOWER LIKE WE HAVE. WE INVITE THEM AND IT BECOMES A VERY SPIRITED, COMPETITIVE APPROACH. BUT THAT'S HOW WE GET BETTER. AND IT'S THE SAME THING WITH THE CITY TO THE SOUTH. THEIR ENGINE 51 IS OUR CLOSEST ENGINE, AND THAT, THAT IS THEIR BUSIEST COMPANY. SO WE HAVE A VERY STRONG, UH, COMPETITION BETWEEN US TO SEE WHO IS THE BEST. SO NOW THAT WE'RE A CLASS ONE AND THEY'RE NOT, IT'S PRETTY EASY TO SEE WHO IS RIGHT. , AGAIN, THE SWEETWATER AUTHORITY, A MR, OUR OPERATIONALS FOLKS, THE FOLKS THAT YOU SEE STANDING BEHIND ME, THEIR COMMITMENT TO EXCELLENCE, TO WORKING HARD AND ENSURING THAT THEY ARE EQUIPPED AND, AND, UH, TRAIN AND, AND INVESTED IN PROVIDING THE BEST SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY. THAT IS A HALLMARK OF WHO WE ARE AS A FIRE DEPARTMENT. WE'RE A VERY PROUD BUNCH. AND, UH, THIS IS JUST ONE WAY OF SHOWING YOU THAT. AND AGAIN, COMMUNITY'S RISK REDUCTION, OUR OUTREACH TO THE COMMUNITY AND THE PARTNERSHIP THAT ALLOWS US TO ENTER THEIR HOMES, ENTER THEIR BUSINESSES, ENSURE THEY HAVE A SAFE ENVIRONMENT BY WHICH TO PROSPER. THAT'S A VERY, VERY BIG PART OF WHAT WE DO. AND WE TAKE THAT VERY SERIOUSLY. AND LASTLY, THANK YOU. UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT, FOR YOUR ONGOING SUPPORT. I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I SHARE WITH THE, WITH YOU ALL IS OUR, OUR CITY SLOGAN, WHERE IT'S JUST TOGETHER WE CAN, AND WE TAKE THAT FURTHER TOGETHER, WE CAN TOGETHER WE WILL. AND TOGETHER WE HAVE, AND WE HAVE BY BECOMING A CLASS ONE FIRE DEPARTMENT. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO TO ANSWER THEM. ALRIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANYONE? I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION, CHIEF MORA, BUT I WANNA THANK YOU AND, AND ALL OF THE GENTLEMEN AND, AND I'M SURE WOMEN IN THE DEPARTMENT THAT ARE A PART OF THIS SUCCESS, IT IS VERY IMPRESSIVE TO KNOW THAT NATIONAL CITY STANDS ON THE TOP. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU DO THERE. AND I CONGRATULATE EVERYBODY AND THANK YOU FOR STICKING AROUND AND BEING PRESENT, UH, SO THAT WE CAN ENJOY IN THIS ACHIEVEMENT TOGETHER. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UM, AND IF I COULD, I'LL BRING THEM UP TO GET A PHOTO, BUT OF COURSE IF THERE ARE MORE QUESTIONS, I'LL TAKE THEM. ABSOLUTELY. AND, UH, UH, I THINK WE GOT ROOM HERE FOR MALT . COME ON UP. COME ON UP. [00:50:11] STAND BY, SIR. GREAT JOB. DON'T LEAVE ME ALONE. THANK YOU FOR PICKING UP ON THAT. THANK YOU. AROUND, TAKE IT AROUND CITY, UH, TO GET THAT KIND OF RATING IS, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU SAW THE, THE STATISTICS, THE NUMBER THAT WERE THERE ON HOW, HOW RARE THAT HAPPENS. BUT IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW MANY OLDER URBAN CITIES HIT THAT KIND OF NUMBER. UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S DIFFICULT. THAT'S MORE THAN DIFFICULT. YEAH. WE ARE BY FAR THE OLDEST, NOT OF ANYBODY THAT WE LOOKED AT, BUT WITHIN THE COUNTY, THERE ARE THREE OTHERS, RIGHT? THE CITY OF SANTI, THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS AND POWAY, AND I THINK WE'RE, WHICH YEAH, BUT THOSE, THOSE ARE BRAND NEW CITIES COMPARED TO US. EXACTLY. I THINK ALL THREE OF THEM DON'T EVEN CANADA, CITIES, ALL KIND OF STUFF. YEAH, YEAH. AND A LOT, A LOT LARGER LOTS. AND YOU NAME IT RIGHT ON DOWN THE LINE. AND, UH, WHICH MAKES A HUGE DIFFERENCE. YES, SIR. IT'S A VERY BIG ACCOMPLISHMENT. YOU GUYS, YOU GUYS ARE VERY MUCH TO BE CONGRATULATED. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, SO NEXT WE GET ONTO, WE [7. REGIONAL BOARDS AND COMMITTEE REPORTS] HAVE OUR REGIONAL BOARDS AND COMMITTEE REPORTS. SO I'LL START DOWN HERE AND FAR LEFT. UH, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I ATTENDED THE, UM, SHORELINE PRESERVATION GROUP, UH, AT SANDAG. THERE IS A, UH, LARGE EFFORT, ONE IN A DECADE, UH, EFFORT TO REPLENISH OUR BEACHES AROUND THE REGION. UH, MOST NOTABLY OUR CLOSEST BEACH, UH, IMPERIAL BEACH, UM, UH, CITY CORONADO, UH, AND THE LARGEST ONE OCEANSIDE. AND SO, UM, BEACHES ARE AN ATTRACTION TO THE SAN DIEGO REGION AND BRING IN A LOT OF, UM, UH, REVENUE TO, TO THE REGION AS A WHOLE AND NATIONAL CITY AS WELL. SO, UM, WE DISCUSSED THAT THOROUGHLY. AND I THINK, UH, RFPS WILL GO OUT IN THE COMING MONTHS. VERY GOOD, PLEASE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. UH, FOR SWEETWATER AUTHORITY, UM, JUST A REPORT THAT AFTER, OOPS, I HAVE, I HAVE A CHEAT SHEET HERE THAT, UM, AFTER ADDITIONAL INSPECTIONS AND ASSESSMENT OF BOTH DAMS, THERE IS NO DAMAGE TO REPORT AFTER THAT EARTHQUAKE. UM, THE OTHER DAY, ALL AUTHORITY FACILITIES APPEAR TO BE IN GOOD CONDITION. THAT'S FROM SWEETWATER AUTHORITY. AND WITH REGARDS TO MEETINGS, UH, OUR MEETING IS TOMORROW AND THERE'S NO REPORTABLE ITEM FROM THE OTHER MEETING. LAST TWO WEEKS AGO, SAN DIEGO COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY, MR. MAYOR. OUR MEETING IS NEXT WEEK, SAN DIEGO COMMUNITY POWER. OUR MEETING IS ON THURSDAY, METRO WATER METRO WASTEWATER. UM, THERE ARE, UM, THINGS THAT THEY ARE, UM, THAT CANNOT BE REPORTED YET. SO, BUT OUR, UM, ASSISTANT CITY ENGINEER SITS ON IT WITH METRO TECH. SO THAT WILL BE REPORTED AFTER EVERYTHING, UM, WILL BE, UH, WILL BE, UM, FINALIZED. SO THOSE ARE MY REPORT, MR. MAYOR. ALRIGHT. DOWN HERE. AM I RIGHT? THANK YOU, MAYOR. I, UM, ATTENDED THE SANDAG BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING ON APRIL 11TH. UM, IT WAS THE FIRST MEETING AT THE NEW WEST BUILDING. I INVITE ANYBODY THAT'S INTERESTED IN GOING TO THE SANDAG MEETINGS, YOU ARE WELCOME TO JOIN. THEY ARE ON THE FIRST FLOOR OF THAT BUILDING. THEY USED TO BE ON THE SEVENTH FLOOR IN THE PREVIOUS BUILDING. UH, AND THEN STAFF IS OCCUPYING THE THIRD AND FOURTH FLOORS. UH, BUT THOSE ARE PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO ACCESS THEM. THEY HAVE KEY CARDS OR SOMETHING. UM, I WANNA ASK YOU ABOUT THE BLUE LINE RIDERSHIP. AND CAN YOU IMAGINE A NUMBER, HOW MANY RIDERS RIDE THE BLUE LINE [00:55:01] ON A MONTHLY BASIS? AND I BET IT'S A, I'LL GIVE YOU THE ANSWER. IT'S 2.1 MILLION PEOPLE RIDE THE BLUE LINE, THE BLUE LINE TROLLEY LINE A MONTH. THAT'S ASTOUNDING. SO, UM, IN CONJUNCTION WITH MTS, THERE IS A, UM, NEW BUS ROUTE. IT'S A RAPID ROUTE SIX 40 THAT IS GOING TO BE COMING ON BOARD, UM, TO HELP, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH THE, SOME OF THE RIDERS THAT ARE ON THE TROLLEY THAT THEN HAVE TO TAKE THE BUS TO THEIR FINAL DESTINATION. SO THERE'S A LOT OF SUPPORT THERE, AND I'M VERY HAPPY TO KNOW THAT THE BLUE LINE IS THAT SUCCESSFUL. UM, I WANNA LET YOU KNOW, PROBABLY THE MAYOR MAY SPEAK TO THE SUCCESSES BASED ON THE, UM, UH, A LOT OF THE DISCUSSIONS THAT HAPPENED AT DC. UH, FOLKS FROM SANDAG WERE THERE, UM, AND I KNOW MAYOR WAS THERE AS WELL, REPRESENTING OUR CITY. THE GRANT FUNDING THAT FELT WAS, UH, ON HOLD OR, OR, YOU KNOW, WE CAN NOW SAY THAT, UH, THERE HAS BEEN, UM, IT IS A GO. THERE'S GREEN LIGHT TO 150 MILLION, UH, WORTH OF FUNDS FOR, UM, TO COMPLETE THE OTTA MESA EAST PROJECT. THE VESTRA VESTA STREET PROJECT, WHICH IS PART OF THE HARBOR DRIVE 2.0. THE FUNDING FOR THAT IS ALSO RELEASED. THIS IS ALL, UM, WITH, UH, CONVERSATIONS THAT HAPPENED WITH THE, UH, U-S-G-S-A, WHICH IS THE GENERAL SERVICE ADMINISTRATION DEPARTMENT, THE STATE DEPARTMENT, DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, BORDER PROTECTION, ALL OF THAT. SO A LOT OF PEOPLE CAME TOGETHER TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. AND THAT'S FANTASTIC NEWS. AND THE LAST THING I WILL MENTION IS, UM, THERE'S A NATIONWIDE SCAM. MAYBE EVERYBODY IS AWARE OF IT ALREADY. I ACTUALLY JUST GOT A TEXT EARLIER TODAY WHERE, UH, AGAIN, THERE IS, UM, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THAT I GUESS WANNA MAKE A QUICK, YOU KNOW, TRICK YOU INTO, UH, SUBMITTING FUNDS OR SOMETHING. THEY SAY THAT YOU OWE A TOLL, AND NOW THEY'RE ALSO SAYING THERE'S PARKING. PARKING, THERE'S A FEE FOR PARKING THAT YOU MISSED PAYING. NOW YOU HAVE TO PAY AND YOU'LL GET IN TROUBLE. IF YOU DON'T, IT'S A SCAM. PLEASE BE AWARE THAT IF YOU DO RECEIVE, UM, TEXTS OR CALLS ABOUT THE TOLL ROADS, YOU KNOW, CALL SANDAG AND CONFIRM. AND, UM, JUST RECOGNIZE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A NATIONWIDE SCAM. IT'S NOT ONLY HAPPENING ON OUR LOCAL TOLL ROADS, BUT BE AWARE. THANK YOU. YES. SO FOR, UH, METROPOLITAN TRANSIT SYSTEM, SO I SERVE ON THE BOARD, AND I ATTENDED LAST WEEK ALONG WITH DANIEL GONZALEZ, MY COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE, THE, UH, ANNUAL MOBILITY CONFERENCE WITH APTA, THE AMERICAN PLANNING, UH, TRANSIT ASSOCIATION. THAT WAS HELD APRIL 6TH, NINTH IN AUSTIN. UH, SO IT BRINGS, SO THE EVENT BRINGS TOGETHER TRANSPORTATION LEADERS, CITY PLANNERS, UH, COMMUNITY ADVOCATES. UH, THERE'S KEYNOTE PANEL DISCUSSIONS, UH, ALL ABOUT, UH, PUBLIC TRANSIT SPECIFICALLY, UH, FOCUSES ON, UH, BUS OPERATIONS. SO I'M GONNA TRY TO, UM, UH, RUSH, UH, THROUGH THIS. BUT, UH, IN TERMS OF THE, THE CONFERENCE EDUCATION, ONE OF THE, UH, BIG SESSIONS THAT WE'VE, UH, ATTENDED WAS, HAS BEEN ABOUT AI, ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE FOR, UH, UH, SERVING, UH, UM, OUR, OUR BUS INFRASTRUCTURE AND OUR BUS OPERATIONS. SO, ONE SPECIFIC EXAMPLE IS, UH, USING AI FOR, UH, PEOPLE WITH, UH, DISABILITIES. IT'S CALLED THE, UH, THE INITIATIVE IS THE AI CAMERA ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM, WHICH, UH, BEGAN IN PHILADELPHIA. IT'S BEEN ADOPTED IN NEW YORK CITY, DC SO WE'RE CONSIDERING IT IN SAN DIEGO. SO BASICALLY WHAT IT DOES IS, UH, PREVENTS, UM, OR IT, IT MONITORS AND IT'S AN ENFORCEMENT TOOL. SO WHEN BUSES ARE TRYING TO, UH, PULL INTO THE STOPS, A LOT OF TIMES THERE'S CARS THAT ARE BLOCKING IT. SO THIS ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM CAPTURES THE LICENSE PLATE AND, AND, AND FINDS FOLKS WHO ARE BLOCKING THE, UM, UH, BLOCKING THE BUS STOPS. BECAUSE WHEN THEY DO THAT, THEN THOSE WITH, UH, DISABILITIES THAT ARE, UM, THAT ARE, ARE PHYSICALLY IMPAIRED IN WHEELCHAIRS AND WHATNOT, IT MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT TO GET OFF. SO THAT WAS AN ENFORCEMENT TOOL AND A POTENTIAL, UH, REVENUE, UH, GENERATOR. UM, AND, UH, SO THAT WAS A BIG TAKEAWAY. THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER TOPICS, UM, FROM, UH, CLEAN, UH, TECHNOLOGY TO THE BUDGET, UM, CRISIS ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL. UM, AND THEN THE OTHER BIG IMPORTANT PART THAT I, I ENCOURAGE OUR, OUR STAFF TO ATTEND THESE CONFERENCES IS JUST ENGAGEMENT WITH, UM, MOBILITY LEADERS. SO LEARNING WHAT OTHER AGENCIES ARE DOING TO BE INNOVATIVE AND IMPROVE THEIR TRANSIT SYSTEM. SO THAT'S, UH, THAT'S, UH, SO THAT CONFERENCE WAS, UH, VERY INFORMATIVE, UH, AND HELPFUL THERE. AND THEN FOR AIR POLLUTION CONTROL DISTRICT PULLING THIS UP, UH, SO I SERVE AS CHAIR OF AIR POLLUTION CONTROL DISTRICT. UH, AND, UH, THE BIG ITEMS THERE WERE, WE, UH, REAPPOINTED THE THREE PUBLIC, UH, UH, THREE PUBLIC MEMBERS WHOSE TERMS EXPIRED IN FOUR YEARS. SO WE REAPPOINTED GEORGIA GOMEZ FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE SEAT. WE REAPPOINTED DR. ANNE MARIE GAR GARCIA, WHO, UH, IS, UH, THE HEALTH ADVOCATE. AND FOR A NEW APPOINTMENT, ENRIQUE MEDINA, WHO IS THE, UH, THE, THE TECHNOL THE, UH, TECHNICAL EXPERT FOR AIR QUALITY ISSUES [01:00:01] IN, IN SCIENTISTS. UH, HE DID NOT REAPP, UH, REAPPLY. SO IT WAS VERY COMPETITIVE. BUT WE DID, UH, APPOINT, UH, DR. APOLLO GRANADOS. UM, AND I WAS REALLY HAPPY ABOUT THAT PERSONALLY BECAUSE I WORKED WITH HER AND ADDRESSING THE TIJUANA SEWAGE RIVER CRISIS AND WORKING WITH MAYOR RE AND A PCD ON THAT. SO SHE WAS, SHE WAS REALLY HELPFUL, UM, ON THAT AND UNDERSTANDS, UH, AIR, AIR POLLUTION, UH, ISSUES. AND WE ALSO APPOINTED, UM, A SUBCOMMITTEE. THAT SUBCOMMITTEE IS A MADE UP. UM, IT'S A PLANNING SUBCOMMITTEE THAT IS MADE UP OF MAYOR, UH, UH, JOHN DUNCAN, UH, A COUNCIL MEMBER, JUDY FITZGERALD, UH, DR. PAULA GRANADOS, AND I THINK THERE WAS TWO MORE, UH, DR. PAULA GRANADOS. AND YEAH, I THINK, ACTUALLY, I THINK THAT'S IT. SO, YEAH. SO THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT. OKAY, GOOD. UH, A COUPLE THINGS TO REPORT ON. UM, UH, REGIONAL SOLID WASTE AUTHORITY. WE HAD OUR, UH, MEETING, THIS WAS ON APRIL THE THIRD. AND, UH, UH, TAKING A LOOK AT A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES WE HAVE TO MEET SOME OF THE STATE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE COMING UP AND HOW OUR CITIES ARE ALL DOING. AND ACTUALLY, UH, NATIONAL CITY IS ACTUALLY KIND OF AHEAD OF THE GAME ON VAST MAJORITY OF THE CITIES, BUT THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY, UH, ANOTHER THING WAS DONE. WE DID OUR, OUR, UH, ELECTIONS ONCE AGAIN. AND I, I GUESS I'M GOING TO BE THE ETERNAL PRESIDENT OF THAT ORGANIZATION 'CAUSE I GOT ELECTED ONCE AGAIN TO HEAD THAT ONE UP. SO, UM, UM, THE OTHER THING WAS, UH, A ATTENDED THE REGIONAL CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, THEIR, UH, THEIR MISSION TO WASHINGTON DC THIS LAST WEEK. AND, UH, UH, INTERESTING TIME IN WASHINGTON DC TO PUT THE, PUT IT, UH, THE LEAST. JUST TO REAL QUICKLY GO THROUGH SOME OF THE THINGS. UH, WE HAD A, UH, HEALTHCARE ROUND TABLE. UH, WE ALSO THEN, UH, ESTEBAN GAN, WHO IS THE AMBASSADOR TO MEX, UH, OF MEXICO TO THE UNITED STATES. UH, HE GAVE A LARGE PRESENTATION. THEN I, I GOT TO HAVE SOME PRIVATE TIME WITH HIM. WE DEALT WITH A WHOLE LOT OF DIFFERENT ISSUES. THE SEWER ISSUE, UH, IMMIGRATION, A WHOLE NUMBER OF THINGS THAT I WAS ABLE TO TALK WITH HIM ON. AND IT WAS INTERESTING 'CAUSE HE WAS AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE TIJUANA RIVER VALLEY, OR AT LEAST SOME PORTIONS OF IT. AND I TALKED WITH HIM ABOUT SOME OTHER THINGS AND I SHOWED HIM SOME PICTURES AND HE GOES, I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT ANY OF THAT. SO HE'S ASKED FOR ME TO GET, SEND HIM BACK THE, UH, THE MAP COORDINATES OF THOSE, UH, THOSE SPOTS AND, AND THE INFORMATION. AND HE GAVE ME ALL HIS CONTACT AND HE WANTS TO BE ABLE TO FOLLOW UP ON THOSE. UM, THE, UH, I'M GONNA SKIP THROUGH A BUNCH OF THESE. WE ALSO HAD, UH, CONGRESSMAN, UH, JOHN, UH, GARAMENDI, AND THEN ALSO SARAH JACOBS JOINED HIM. BOTH OF THOSE ARE ON THE HOUSE SELECT COMMITTEE, UH, FOR ARMED SERVICES, UH, MADE A PRESENTATION. THEN I MET WITH BOTH OF THEM. AND, UH, WE DEALT WITH A NUMBER OF THINGS INVOLVING NATIONAL CITY WITH, UH, NAVAL BASE. UH, WE HAVE SOME PROBLEMS WITH SOME DREDGING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. THERE'S ALSO, UH, WITH AUSTEL, UM, THE, UH, COMPANY AT THE FOOT OF 24TH STREET. I STILL CALL IT 24TH STREET DOWN THERE. BUT ANYWAY, THE FOOT OF 24TH STREET. AND WITH THEIR, UH, FLOATING DRY DOCK AND BE ABLE TO GET THAT THING INTO SERVICE SO THAT WE CAN START SERVICING SOME OF THESE, UH, NAVAL VE UH, VESSELS HERE, INSTEAD OF SENDING THEM ALL THE WAY UP TO BREMINGTON, WASHINGTON AND WITH THEIR CREWS, EVERYTHING ELSE, AND TAKING 'EM OUTTA THE AREA AND OUTTA SERVICE FOR SO LONG. BUT WE'VE GOT A DRY DOCK SITTING DOWN THERE. UM, THAT'S BEING HELD UP BY REGULATIONS, NOT ALLOWING IT TO BE USED. BRAND SPRINKLE A NEW ONE JUST BUILT AND MODERN STANDARDS, EVERYTHING ELSE. BUT ONE DUMB LITTLE REGULATION THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE IS HOLDING IT UP. SO WE TALKED ABOUT THAT AMONG, UH, A NUMBER OF OTHER ISSUES. UM, WE ALSO HAD FROM THE, UH, DEPARTMENT OF CONGRESS, WE HAD, UH, NAISHA ROD. AND WHO WAS THE, UH, WAS, WAS THE NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF, UH, STANDARDS AND TECH, UH, TECHNOLOGY FROM THE, UH, DEPARTMENT OF, UH, COMMERCE. AND, UH, ALSO, UH, REPRESENTATIVE, SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT FROM THE, UH, US CHAMBER OF COMMERCE DEALING, UM, WITH THE WHOLE AREA OF HOW WE, HOW WE'RE DEALING WITH TECHNOLOGY RIGHT NOW. A HEAD OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS FROM US COM, UH, UH, UH, US CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, RODNEY DAVIS. UH, SCOTT PETERS CAME AND GAVE HIS, UH, HIS VIEW ON WHERE CONGRESS IS AT RIGHT NOW. UM, INTERESTING TO SAY THE LEAST. . AND, UH, UH, THE, UH, WE ALSO HAD, UH, UH, DIRECTOR OF THE UH, BUREAU OF ENERGY FROM THE US DEPARTMENT OF STATE, UH, SARAH YUNE, UH, DEALING WITH THE WHOLE AREA OF HOW WE'RE GOING TO, HOW WE'RE GONNA BE CHANGING OVER ON AREAS OF, OF ENERGY, UH, MIGRATION. WE HAD, UM, UM, UH, AARON, UH, MELNICK, UH, WHO WAS WITH THE AMERICAN IMMIGRATION, UH, COUNCIL, AND ALSO DAVID TRUDA, UH, WHO'S THE FORMER HEAD OF THE BAJA [01:05:01] NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF, UH, UH, MIGRATION. AND THE INTERESTING THING WAS ON THIS TRIP BACK THERE, UH, ALMOST HALF OF THE DELEGATION WAS FROM NORTHERN BAJA. THEY WERE THE MAYORS AND ALSO THE, UH, UH, STATE OFFICIALS FROM BAJA, UH, THAT JOINED US TO GO BACK TO DC ON THIS ONE. SO A LOT OF INTEGRATION. UH, IT WAS JUST JAM PACKED MOMENT BY MOMENT, UM, AND WITH A, A TON OF MEETINGS AND TRYING TO BRING, UM, IN EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THESE. AND WHEN EITHER HAD PRIVATE MEETINGS OR, OR THEY WERE GROUP MEETINGS TRYING TO BRING ISSUES THAT WE HAVE HERE IN NATIONAL CITY BACK TO THE, BACK TO THE FOREFRONT, AND FOR THE REGION, PARTICULARLY WITH THE, UH, WITH THE SEWAGE. SO, UM, UM, AND AS SAY, UH, MY ASSISTANT, UH, JOSIE FLORES CLARK WAS WITH ME. SHE WAS WORKING ONE SIDE OF THE ROOM. I WAS WORKING THE OTHER ONE. AND WHEN I WAS MEETING WITH ONE INDIVIDUAL AND SHE KNEW I WAS WANTING TO MEET WITH SOMEONE ELSE, SHE HAD THEM LINED UP AND WE SWAPPED OFF REAL QUICK, AND IT, IT, UH, IT MADE SO THAT WE WERE ABLE TO DO, UH, UH, REALLY HAVE A MUCH MORE POWERFUL TIME THERE AND GET A WHOLE LOT MORE DONE. SO, UH, VERY EFFECTIVE TIME. UH, BUT IT WAS TIRING. AND, UH, I'M NOT A LOVER FOR WASHINGTON DC SO, UH, BUT WE GOT, BUT WE GOT IT DONE AND GOT BACK HOME. UH, ALTHOUGH A GOOD AMOUNT OF THE GROUP THAT WAS LEAVING FROM SAN DIEGO COUNTY, THEY DECIDED TO TAKE UNITED, UH, AIRLINES. AND THEY GOT DOWN THERE FOR THEIR EARLY MORNING FLIGHT. THIS WAS ON, WHAT WAS IT, SUNDAY MORNING. UH, SUNDAY NIGHT. THEY WERE TOLD, YOU HEARD WHAT I SAID. SUNDAY NIGHT, THEY WERE TOLD THAT THE, THAT THE FLIGHT WAS BEING CANCELED. SO THEY GOT STUCK DOWN THERE ALL DAY AND ALL INTO THE NIGHT, AND THEN HAD TO COME BACK THE NEXT DAY TO FINALLY, FINALLY GET BACK TO WASHINGTON, DC. SO ANYWAY, SOUTHWEST AIRLINES WAS GREAT, AND I'LL JUST PUT IT THAT WAY. AND THAT IS MY REPORT. UM, WITH THAT [8. CONSENT CALENDAR] WE GET INTO CONSENT CALENDAR. I DO HAVE REQUESTS TO PULL ITEMS 8 5 7, 8, 12, AND 13. AND I WILL HAVE TO RECUSE MYSELF ON 8.7 BECAUSE I LIVE RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO THE RESCUE. OH, WAIT, WAS THAT EIGHT? NO, NO, I'M SORRY. THAT, UM, NO, THAT 8.9, UH, THE PARTIAL TERMINATION NOTICE OF RESTRICTIONS. I'LL HAVE TO RECUSE MYSELF SINCE I LIVE RIGHT NEXT DOOR. OKAY, MR. CHAIRMAN? YES. PULLING 8.4 PLEASE. 8.4. OKAY. ALRIGHT. COULD WE, UNLESS I SEE ANY OTHERS, COULD I GET A MOTION, MOTION TO APPROVE THE REMAINDER, THE REMAINDER OF THE CONSENT ITEMS? SECOND. OKAY. AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE EIGHT NINE WITH A RECUSAL FROM, UH, MEMBER BUSH FROM, UH, VICE MAYOR BUSH? YES. OKAY, MR. MAYOR. ALRIGHT, SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. THERE WE GO. SENIOR, MORE DISCUSSION, PLEASE VOTE. MOTION TO APPROVE UNANIMOUSLY. OKAY. UH, WE HAVE ON THAT VOTE. IT WAS, IT WAS UNANIMOUS WITH THE EXCEPTION THAT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER. YES. I MEAN, DEPUTY MAYOR BUSH CUS RECUSING ON 8.9. YES. THANK YOU FOR THAT. OKAY. UH, [8.4 Authorize the Purchase and Build-Out of Three (3) Ford Police Utility Interceptors for the National City Police Department] FIRST WE PULL, UH, EIGHT FOUR, AUTHORIZED THE PURCHASE AND BUILD OUT OF THREE FORD POLICE UTILITY INTERCEPTORS FOR NATIONAL CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT. I THINK I KNOW WHAT MAYOR, THANK YOU. JUST WANTED TO PULL THIS TO HIGHLIGHT. UM, YOU KNOW, I'M IN A, UH, AN EDUCATIONAL RIDE ALONG WITH, UH, INTERIM BAT CHIEF, UH, JEREMY DAY OVER THE WEEKEND, AND HE, UM, HE EDUCATED ME WITH HOW, UH, UH, UH, UH, A VEHICLE GETS TO BE ALL IMPROVED OR ALL, UM, EQUIPPED WITH THE NECESSARY, UH, GADGETS AND TOOLS FOR, UM, THEM TO BE ABLE TO, UM, SERVICE USE THAT VEHICLE TO SERVICE. UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THE SERVICES TO THE PEOPLE DURING IT WAS, IT WAS AMAZING HOW HE HAD, UM, SHOWN ME, UM, HOW THIS, UH, TOOLS AND GADGETS, UM, WITHIN, IN THE VEHICLE HELPS THEM TO, UM, DELIVER DURING, UM, UH, EMERGENCY SITUATION, UM, DURING THOSE, UM, UH, CALLS THAT, UM, THAT ARE, UH, NECESSARY FOR THEM TO USE THIS VEHICLE EQUIPPED WITH THOSE NECESSARY, UM, RESOURCES AND TOOLS AND GADGETS. UM, SO I, I, I, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I APPRECIATE THAT EDUCATION, UM, BUT CHIEF, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, FOR TAKING ME WITH THAT RIDE ALONG AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, AND I AM PROUD TO BE IN THAT VEHICLE, YOU KNOW, I'M MEAN THAT NATIONAL CITY OWNS, UM, TO SERVICE THE PEOPLE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AND WITH THAT I MOVE TO APPROVE 8.4. [01:10:01] SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND CASE. PUSH YOUR BUTTONS IN FOR MOTION. SECOND. IT'S NOT LIKE IN YOUR BUTTON. NO. OH, LEMME CLICK IT ONE MORE TIME. OKAY. PLEASE TRY AGAIN. TRY IT AGAIN. OKAY. THERE GOES THAT ONE. THERE WE GO. ALRIGHT. SEE, NO DISCUSSION. PLEASE VOTE. MOTION APPROVE UNANIMOUSLY. ALRIGHT. EIGHT [8.5 California State Library Lunch at the Library Grant Funds Acceptance] FIVE IS A, THE SAN DIEGO, UH, STATE LIBRARY LUNCH AT THE LIBRARY, GRAND FUNDS ACCEPTANCE. AND, UH, UM, WITH THAT WE HAVE, UH, ONE SPEAKER, UH, EDTA. THIS ONE, I'M JUST A, JUST A LITTLE CURIOUS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT MUCH IN THE BOOK TO DESCRIBE IT MM-HMM . BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, JUST A STAB AT THIS. DOES THIS FUND HAVE, UH, THIS GRANT HAVE A DISTINCTION BETWEEN, UH, DIRECT COST AND INDIRECT COST? I, I DIDN'T SEE ANY DETAILS THERE. I DON'T, I I SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME. I DIDN'T QUITE GET YOUR, DOES THIS GRANT HAVE ANY DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE COST THAT'S INDIRECT AND DIRECT? OKAY. IN, IN OTHER WORDS, WHAT CAN THIS MONEY COVER IS WHAT YOU'RE ASKING. RIGHT. OKAY. UH, I THINK WE HAVE A LADY RIGHT THERE THAT CAN ANSWER THAT. UH, SO THE, THE GRANT DOESN'T COVER FOOD, BUT IT COVERS LIKE ENRICHMENT PROGRAMMING, SUPPLIES, STAFF TIME, THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THEN WE HAVE AN OUTSIDE AGENCY WHO DOES THE FOOD FOR US FOR FREE STAFF TIME, THE STAFF TIME TO MONITOR THE, UM, ACTIVITIES DURING, DURING LUNCH. OKAY. SO, SO IT SOUNDS LIKE DIRECT AND INDIRECT? NO. SOUNDS LIKE DIRECT. OKAY. NOT INDIRECT. THAT'S STAFF TIME. DOES STAFF INCLUDE MANAGER, STAFF TIME AND SUPPLIES? YEAH. YEAH. DOES IT INCLUDE MANAGEMENT OR DOES IT NOT INCLUDE MANAGER'S TIME? DO YOU TACK ON, DO YOU TACK ON THE FEES TO SAY, OKAY. OKAY. I CAN ADD A LITTLE BIT MORE FOR HR COST AND FOR ACCOUNTING COSTS. I DON'T KNOW. BUT YOU, YOU COULD, BUT ON THIS SMALL OF A GRANT, IF YOU DO THAT, YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT GONNA HAVE ANY PROGRAM AT ALL, CORRECT? CORRECT. BUT JUST TESTING THE WATERS. OKAY. OKAY. ALRIGHT. GOOD POINT. WHAT IS THE, UH, COUNCIL'S PLEASURE? I SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND AND GET THE SECOND. AND THERE WE GO. AND PLEASE VOTE. MOTION APPROVE UNANIMOUSLY. OKAY, NOW WE GO DOWN TO EIGHT SEVEN. [8.7 Community Development On-Call Services Request For Proposal (RFP) for Permit Processing, Plan Review, and Inspection Services.] COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ON-CALL SERVICES, REQUESTS FOR A PROPOSAL, THAT'S AN RFP FOR PERMIT PROCESSING PLAN REVIEW AND INSPECTION SERVICES. AND, UH, MIKAYLA POLANCO, FOLLOWED BY ALICIA MORRIS MORRISON, FOLLOWED BY DOYLE MORRISON. WELL, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE YOU GUYS UP AND THEN WE'LL SEE IF SHE'S STILL, I DUNNO IF SHE'S IN THE BACK OR NOT. UM, GOOD EVENING. I JUST WANNA, UM, CHANGE MY POSITION TO NEUTRAL ON THERE. UM, DIVISION CHIEF HERNANDEZ, I MET, UH, SPOKE WITH HIM OUT IN THE CORRIDOR AND HE EXPLAINED SOME THINGS ON THIS, UM, THAT ANSWERED SOME QUESTIONS. SO I, YOU COULD CHANGE ME TO BE A NEUTRAL MM-HMM . AND THEN AS WELL AS, UM, 8.8 WHEN YOU GET THERE. THANK YOU. OKAY. JUST WANNA CHANGE IT TO NEUTRAL. OKAY. OKAY. I WILL RECORD THAT, PLEASE. DOYLE MORRISON. I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE MY STATUS FROM OPPOSED TO, TO NEUTRAL AFTER CHIEF HERNANDEZ, ANOTHER WIN FOR THE NATIONAL CITY FIRE DEPARTMENT. SO, THANK YOU MS. POLANCO. IS SHE STILL IN, IN THE BACK OR ANYTHING? NOBODY'S BACK. OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO, UH, ALRIGHT, THAT IS ALL OF OUR SPEAKERS ON THAT. WHAT IS PLEASURE? I HAVE A COMMENT, MR. CHAIRMAN. SURE. GO RIGHT AHEAD. COMMENT ON 8.7 AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, PIGGYBACKING 8.8, UM, I HAD A, UH, UM, LONG BRIEFING WITH OUR, UM, STAFF, UM, YOU KNOW, CITY MANAGER, UM, DIRECTOR, UM, CARLOS, UM, AGUIRE AND DCM, UM, BRIAN HADLEY. AND I HAD EXPLAINED TO THEM MY, MY POSITION OF, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN FACING OUT TO, TO, UM, TO, UH, CONSULTANTS, UM, INSTEAD CREATING JOBS. THAT WAS MY POSITION. UM, WHEN I SAT IN THIS OFFICE, UM, TO CREATE JOBS, UM, I WAS, UM, EXPLAINED THAT THIS POSITIONS, [01:15:01] BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN FROM TWO, THAT, THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, ONE, ONE CONTRACT, UM, WAS DONE. AND THEN, SO WE HAVE ONE THAT CHANGED THEIR NAME INTO, UM, ONE OF THESE, UH, THREE, SO FROM ONE TO THREE, BUT THEN BASICALLY IT'S UH, THREE, UM, THREE CONSULTANTS NOW THAT WE ARE HAVING THAT WITH A UP TO AMOUNT OF 1.35. SO I, I LOOK, I LOOK AT THAT AS A 450 PER YEAR. UM, MY, MY CONSIDERATION TO, UM, ALLOWING THIS TO MOVE FORWARD, MR. MAYOR, IS THE EXPLANATION OF THE, UM, AGUIRE TO ME WITH REGARDS TO THE SPECIF, THE SPECIFIC POSITIONS THAT LOOK INTO PERMITTING PROCESS OF OUR DEVELOPMENTS, UM, OUR DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS. UM, I HAVE, I HAVE, UM, THAT IS, UH, A HUGE NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS AND PROPOSALS COMING BEFORE THE CITY. AND WE DON'T WANT, UM, ANY OF THOSE, UM, DELAYS THAT, UH, WE HAVE HAD, UM, PRIOR YEARS. AND SO, AND, UM, IT WAS ALSO EXPLAINED TO ME BY CITY MANAGER, UH, DURING THAT BRIEFING THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN THERE IS THAT, UH, PHASE OF, UM, OF, UM, UM, REVIEWING, REVIEWING THIS, UM, THIS CONTRACT SO THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S A LIVING DOCUMENT. UM, WHEN, WHEN WE FIND IT, UM, TO, TO THE BENEFIT OF OUR CITY, UM, YOU KNOW, A FASTER SERVICE AND THAT WE, WE, UM, TURN OVER ALL THOSE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE A BACKLOG AND THAT WE CAN GET THAT, UM, THAT, UH, OR JUST LIKE WHAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAD HAD RECEIVED OF BEING A FRIENDLY BUSINESS CITY. NOT, UH, NOT ANY OF THOSE THAT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THAT WE WERE BRANDED BEFORE. AND SO, UH, I, I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M IN THIS MOVE THAT THIS DEPARTMENT IS DOING, UM, WILL, WILL HELP US, UM, REVISIT THOSE, UH, PROGRAMS AND THOSE PROJECTS THAT WE NEED TO TURN OVER AS FAST AS WE CAN TO SERVE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN THE BUSINESSES THAT WE HAVE AND, AND TO ALSO, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN EXPERIENCE THE ECONOMIC, UM, UH, THE ECONOMIC, UM, IMPACT THAT, UM, THAT IT WILL, UH, THE ECONOMIC BENEFIT THAT IT'LL PROVIDE TO THE CITY. SO, UM, THAT IS MY COMMENT, MR. MAYOR, AND THANK YOU FOR MAKING ME SPEAK. OKAY. UH, WITH THAT, WITH THAT SAID, IF THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS, I MOVE TO APPROVE 8.7 MR. CHAIR. SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION. SECOND. I DO HAVE A COMMENT ON THIS, MAYOR. OKAY. NO PROBLEM. THANK YOU. UH, THANK YOU TO STAFF FOR DOING THE DUE DILIGENCE ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM AS WELL AS, UH, OUR DUE DILIGENCE IN OUR BUILDING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENTS. UM, I THINK A LOT OF THINGS HAVE CHANGED OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. UM, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S WELL KNOWN THAT I MYSELF APPLIED FOR AN A DU PERMIT WITHIN THE CITY, UH, JUST TO KNOW WHAT THE PROCESS IS LIKE. AND, UH, THERE WAS A LOT OF ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT. AND I'M GLAD, UH, TO SEE THAT THERE HAS BEEN PLENTY OF IMPROVEMENTS TO HELP SMALL DEVELOPERS, TO HELP PROPERTY OWNERS THAT WANNA DEVELOP ON THEIR PROPERTY. AND SO IT IS INCUMBENT ON OUR, UH, FUTURE OF OUR CITY TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, WE WORK WITH ESPECIALLY INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNERS, UH, TO HELP THEM GET THEIR PERMITS ON TIME AND, UM, UH, AT THE SAME TIME ACCOMMODATING FOR LARGER DEVELOPMENTS, WHICH I THINK THIS IS INTENDED TO DO, UM, UH, TO PROPERLY REVIEW ALL OF THE PLANS AND GO THROUGH A, UH, GOOD, UH, WELL THOUGHT OUT PROCESS. SO, THANK YOU ALL FOR, UH, THE WORK AND, AND LOOK FORWARD TO, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, ENCOURAGE MORE GOOD DEVELOPMENT TO COME IN THE CITY AND MAKE SURE THAT IT'S PROPERLY VETTED THROUGH. THANK YOU. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION. SECOND, SEE NO DISCUSSION. UM, PLEASE VOTE. MOTION APPROVE UNANIMOUSLY. NEXT WE [8.8 Fire Department On-Call Services RFP] GO ON TO EIGHT, EIGHT FIRE DEPARTMENT ON CALL SERVICES AT RFP, UM, DOYLE AND ALICIA, WERE YOU WANTING JUST TO PUT IT OVER TO NEUTRAL? NEUTRAL. OKAY. AND YOU DON'T NEED TO SPEAK? NO. OKAY. OKAY. JUST WANTED TO DOUBLE CHECK. THANK YOU. UM, THEN, UH, LOUISA OR MIKA, I DON'T BELIEVE EITHER ONE OF THEM ARE STILL HERE. OKAY. UM, THEN WE HAVE, UH, MR. THOMAS REICH. YEP. THANK YOU. I SEE THIS IS THE ON-CALL SERVICES ARE FOR A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS NOW. WELL, THESE UP TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND NOT TO EXCEED THAT UP, UP TO A HUNDRED [01:20:01] THOUSAND. OKAY. SO IT MIGHT BE ZERO EVEN MIGHT BE MORE THAN THAT, JOE. NO, IT CAN'T, IT CANNOT EXCEED, IT CANNOT EXCEED A HUNDRED THOUSAND. CAN'T EVEN MORE THAN THAT. OKAY. UH, THE ISSUE THAT I WANT TO KNOW IS IF, ARE WE GIVING THIS TO CONTRACTORS TO, TO DO THE INSPECTIONS, GIVING THE INSPECTIONS, UH, PRIVATE CONTRACTORS WHEN YOUR DEPARTMENT SHOULD BE DOING IT? AND YOU SAID LAST WEEK YOUR DEPARTMENT WOULD BE DOING IT. SO THAT'S WHAT I THINK I, THE THING I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, CIVIL SERVICE PEOPLE OR PALMING OFF THE DIRTY JOBS TO THE CONTRACTORS. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. UH, AND THIS, THIS IS TO THE SAME COMPANY THAT DOES THAT IS ALSO DOING FOR OUR BUILDING DEPARTMENT. AND SO YEAH, THAT, UH, UH, OTHERWISE NO, IT DOESN'T SAY HERE. 'CAUSE IT GO, THEY GO BY DIFFERENT NAMES NOW, BUT IT'S STILL, ESCAL IS WHO IT IS. AND THAT'S JUST THE REALITY WITH THAT. WHAT IS YOUR, WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE? 8.8. MOTION TO APPROVE MR. CHAIR. OKAY. SECOND. OKAY. WE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND COMMENT, MR. CHAIR. OKAY. WE STILL DON'T HAVE OUR MOTION SECOND IN THERE YET. OH, I DID. SORRY. THERE IT GOES. OKAY, NOW WE GOT IT. OKAY. COMMENT. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I HAD A VERY GOOD BRIEFING WITH, UM, UH, CHIEF AND, UH, CHIEF ROBERT HERNANDEZ AND CHIEF SERGE MORA WITH THIS WITHDREW WITH REGARDS TO, UM, THIS MATTER. AND, UM, AGAIN, UM, WITH, WITH REGARDS TO THOSE MANY THINGS THAT WE NEED TO, TO REVIEW AND WE NEED THAT SPECIFIC SERVICE THAT WILL GIVE US THE OVERSIGHT, UM, IN ORDER FOR, UH, FOR US TO TURN THE PROJECT AROUND, UH, FASTER AND MORE, UM, IN A MORE DILIGENT AND EFFECTIVE MANNER. SO, WITH THAT SAID, MAYOR, I, I, I, UH, I, UH, APPROVE THIS MOTION. THANK YOU. OKAY. UH, ALRIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION. SECOND. DO YOU KNOW OTHER DISCUSSION PLEASE VOTE. MOTION TO APPROVE UNANIMOUSLY. OKAY. NEXT [8.12 Warrant Register No. 34 for the Period of 2/14/25 through 2/20/25 in the Amount of $3,754,597.55] WE GO UP TO EIGHT 12. THIS IS A WARRANT REGISTER NUMBER 34. WE HAVE, UH, TWO SPEAKERS ON THIS ONE. ED BURNO, AND THEN MR. UH, THOMAS REICH. I JUST TRYING TO LEARN HERE, UM, I SAY THERE'S A MILLION DOLLARS AND IT SAYS THE WORD SETTLEMENT, SO I DON'T WANT ANY DETAILS, BUT I CAN'T HELP BUT ASK, IS THIS COMING OUT OF OUR GENERAL FUND OR IS IT COVERED BEING COVERED BY INSURANCE? SO I JUST WANT TO KNOW THAT, WHICH ONE WAS THIS? NOW THIS IS THE MILLION DOLLARS TO, UM, LAW OFFICE OF EMILY HOWELL. OKAY. AND I'M JUST TRYING TO LEARN, SEE IF IT COMES OUT OF INSURANCE OR IS IT COMING OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND. MM-HMM . THE SECOND QUESTION I HAVE AS MORE OF A COMMENT, MY LAST COMMENT WAS ABOUT THE $6,000, UH, FOR THAT OTHER AREA. AND I WAS TALKING ABOUT INDIRECT COSTS. YOU KNOW, IT'S A SMALL AMOUNT, BUT IF YOU'RE HAVING AN INDIRECT COST OF 30 PER 30%, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, $1,800. YOU KNOW, $1,800 IS A LOT OF MONEY. MM-HMM . IF, IF, IF THAT WAS YOUR INDIRECT COST RATE. OKAY. ALRIGHT. MR. THOMAS REICH. MR. REICH. I KNOW IT. OKAY. MR. REICH? YES. OKAY, HERE YOU GO, MS. ON EIGHT, EIGHT POINT 12. I'M JUST GONNA READ THESE ITEMS AND THEN YOU CAN COMMENT LATER. OTHER THAN ITEMS. DINNY AND P MORRIS FOR LEGAL SERVICE IS 166,079. BURKIN WILLIAMS ENTRIES OVER 17,000. LIEBERT AND CASSIDY FIVE LABOR RELATIONS, 3000 CIRCUIT TRANSIT, 50,000 VORTEX INDUSTRIES, 44,000 FOR THE LIBRARY DOOR. AND, UH, RALPH ANDERSON COMPENSATION SURVEY, 10,800. THAT'S, THANK YOU. OKAY. IF YOU WANNA MAKE A COMMENT ON OUR NOTE, IT'S ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. IF STAFF HAS ANY COMMENTS ON ANY OF THOSE THAT WERE BROUGHT UP, BUT LET ME ADDRESS THE, UH, THE SETTLEMENT CHECK. I THINK THE QUESTION WAS WHETHER THAT'S COMING OUTTA GENERAL FUND OR INSURANCE. UM, IT IS INITIALLY PAID THROUGH GENERAL FUND AND REIMBURSED BY INSURANCE. SO ULTIMATELY IS COVERED BY THE INSURANCE. [01:25:01] YEAH. SO IT SHOWS AS AN EXPENSE NOW, IT'LL LATER SHOW AS A REVENUE AS IT COMES BACK IN. YES. YEAH. ALRIGHT. UM, OKAY. WE WILL, UH, CAN WE HAVE, UH, LET'S SEE, THAT WAS ON EIGHT 12. UH, LET'S TAKE EIGHT [8.13 Warrant Register No. 35 for the Period of 2/21/25 through 2/27/25 in the Amount of $3,268,250.39] 13 TOO WHILE WE'RE AT IT. AND, UH, MR. THOMAS REICH ON EIGHT 13. DID, DID YOU, OR DID YOU ALREADY COVER THAT ONE, MR. REICH? DID YOU COVER EIGHT 13 WHEN YOU WERE UP THERE? I THINK, I THINK YOU DID. THIS IS, THIS IS, YEAH, THIS IS FIVE, NO, WELL, EIGHT. YEAH, BUT I, YES. OKAY. 5 35. EIGHT 13. THESE I WANNA READ ARE THE LABOR CASSIDY LABOR NEGOTIATIONS 53,000 FOR THE, OH WAIT A SECOND. IT'S EITHER 53,000 OR 5,300 FOR LABOR, FOR LABOR NEGOTIATIONS FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT DIFFERENCE GEO SYNTECH CONSULTANT COMPLIANCE SUPPORTER, 4,600 PERRY FORD REPAIR OF FIRE VEHICLE 16,000. $16,000. AND THE OFFICES OF LIMITEDLY. AND HOW, $1 MILLION. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, COULD I HAVE A, UM, MOTION FOR, UH, NUMBER 34 AND 35 MOTION AND EIGHT POINT 13 MAYOR. OKAY. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND SO YOU, NO DISCUSSION PLEASE VOTE. MOTION PROOF UNANIMOUSLY. ALRIGHT, [9.1 Public Hearing and Adoption of Updated Sewer Capacity Fees. (Part 2 of 2)] NEXT WE GO INTO, UH, UH, PUBLIC HEARINGS AND 9.1, WHICH IS THE HOLD. YEAH. BUT WE HAVE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON IT SO IT'S, UH, YEAH. SO WE CAN ACT ON IT. WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING AND ADOPTION OF UPDATED SEWER CAPACITY FEES. AT THIS POINT, I'M GONNA OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT WE PROBABLY NEED A MOTION BEFORE WE CAN. YEAH. SO JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR, WE, WE DO HAVE TO OPEN IT FOR, UM, UH, THE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, THE COMMENTS, IF ANYONE WANTS TO MAKE IT, IS, WOULD BE DIRECTED TO THE CONTINUANCE ONLY. THEN ONCE WE'VE CLOSED THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING, THEN WE WILL HAVE AN, UH, A MOTION TO CONTINUE. UM, AND THEN WE'LL BE DONE WITH THE ITEM. I DO HAVE FOUR PEOPLE THAT REGISTERED TO VOTE. NOW WE'RE GOING TO, UH, MAKE COMMENTS. DOYLE MORRISON NIETO, STEPHAN GASPAR, AND ALICIA MORRISON. UH, DO YOU WANT TO, WHAT YOU CAN COMMENT TO IS TO THE CONTINUANCE, NOT TO THE ITEM ITSELF. IF YOU WANT, IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT, DO YOU WANT TO GO? GO AHEAD. HELLO EVERYONE. UM, I CONTINUE TO SEE A PATTERN THAT'S GOING ON IN NATIONAL CITY, AND THIS CONTINUANCE IS PART OF THE PROBLEM. I THINK WE GET THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE SOMETIMES, AND IT LOOKS FROM OUR SIDE THAT THERE'S DECEPTION AND MANIPULATION. UM, I'M ALL FOR CONTINUING THIS BECAUSE IT WASN'T I ANNOUNCED OR, OR DONE PROPERLY. UM, BUT I THINK THAT WE REALLY SHOULD BE LOOKING AT ALL OF THIS WHEN THINGS ARE BROUGHT FORTH. AND I, I GUESS I DON'T KNOW HOW THE CITY BUSINESSES RAN. I KNOW YOU HAVE TO PROBABLY PUT STUFF OUT BEFORE THE, BEFORE THE HORSE AND THEN SOMETIMES IT DOESN'T GET COMPLETE. BUT I MEAN, WE SHOULD TRY TO AVOID THAT. AND SO WE'LL TALK AT IT NEXT TIME. THANK YOU. OKAY, THANK YOU. ARE ANY, DOES ANYBODY ELSE THAT PUT OUT A SLIP, WOULD THEY LIKE TO SPEAK? UH, JUST ON THE CONTINUANCE ITSELF, UH, MR. NETTO, THIS JUST FOR THE NEXT DISCUSSION IS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA BE HARPING ON, UH, ON THESE FEES, WHETHER THE FEES ARE UPDATED, HOW THEY'RE CALCULATED. THEY INCLUDE ALL THE COST AND ARE THE COST, UH, ACCURATE AND UP TO DATE, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE COST ALLOCATION PLAN THAT WE ARE USING IS BASED ON 2018. SO IT'S OUTDATED. SO I CAN'T SEE HOW YOU CAN BE CALCULATING FEES IF YOUR COST ALLOCATION PLAN HASN'T BEEN UPDATED. IT'S LIKE NOT INCLUDING AT LEAST 500,000 THAT WE'RE, THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING. MM-HMM . YOU KNOW, I, I KNOW YOU'RE LIMITED WITH POLITICAL PUSHBACK ON HOW MUCH YOU CAN CHARGE, BUT JUST RECOGNIZE HOW MUCH YOU CAN, YOU SHOULD CHARGE HOW MUCH IT REALLY COSTS VERSUS WHAT YOU'RE WILLING TO PAY. THAT'S WHAT I'M, I'M ASKING. [01:30:01] OKAY. ALRIGHT. AND ANYBODY ELSE? ALRIGHT. UM, MR. CHAIRMAN, WITH THAT, IF WE COULD HAVE A MOTION FOR CONTINUE. MOTION TO CONTINUE. LET, LET'S HAVE A MOTION. CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. PUBLIC HEARING, HUH? DON'T HAVE TO CLOSE. YES, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. WE'RE GETTING A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING IS WHAT I NEED. I MAY MOVE, MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. I SECOND. OKAY. I HAVE A QUESTION. WHEN IS IT APPROPRIATE FOR ME TO ASK QUESTION NOW? OR IS IT, UH, IN OUR, IN OUR DELIBERATION? 'CAUSE I WANTED TO HAD ASK QUESTION FOR STAFF THAT, THAT COULD BE AFTER, AFTER WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, AFTER WE VOTE ON IT. OKAY. YEP. RIGHT. SO IF WE OPEN IT UP FOR VOTING, THERE IT GOES. YEP. MY VOTING SYSTEM DOES NOT, UH, I'LL, I'LL JUST EX. OKAY. IS YOUR VOTE A YES? YES. OKAY. OKAY. SO THAT WE SHOULD APPROVE UNANIMOUSLY THAT CLOSES THE, UH, CLOSES THE PUBLIC HEARING. NOW THEN, UM, COMMENT YOU CAN MAKE YES. IF, IF I COULD JUST, UH, THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER. I DON'T KNOW IF OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT, UH, UH, DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR COULD, UH, ANSWER THIS. BUT, UM, JUST IN RESPONSE TO MR. NIETOS COMMENTS ABOUT THE COST ALLOCATION PLAN UPDATE. SO I UNDERSTAND THAT'S BEING UPDATED. YOU DID EMAIL ME CITY MANAGER ABOUT, UH, THE, UM, THE TIME. AND I, I DID ASK THESE QUESTIONS. YOU DID ANSWER THEM. I CAN'T REMEMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. BUT, UM, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THE COST ALLOCATION, IT WOULDN'T IMPACT THESE SEWER CAPACITY FEES. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS, THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING BECAUSE MR. NIETO IS SAYING THAT, UM, THE COST ALLOCATION UPDATE WOULD IMPACT THESE SEWER FEES. AND MY UNDERSTANDING IT WAS NOT. SO IF STAFF IS ABLE TO CLARIFY THAT, THE MANAGER OR THE FINANCE, UH, DIRECTOR, IF THAT'S OKAY. AS FAR AS FAR AS THE SEWER FEES, THOSE WERE NOT, UM, CALCULATED FROM MY DEPARTMENT. SO MOST LIKELY ENGINEERING IT IS NOT A GENERAL FUND ITEM. OKAY. YEAH. THO THOSE WOULD GO INTO THE, INTO THE SEWER, SEWER ENTERPRISE. I'M SORRY, GO INTO THE SEWER FUND ENTERPRISE FUND, WHICH IS NOT PART OF THE GENERAL FUND. SO THE COST ALLOCATION, IT WOULDN'T IMPACT IT. CORRECT. RIGHT. OKAY. GOT IT. THANKS. OKAY. OKAY. WITH THAT, COULD WE HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS TO THE, UH, UH, THE NEXT, UH, CITY COUNCIL MEETING? MOVE TO CONTINUE. SECOND. YEP. UH, MAYOR, JUST ONE COMMENT. MM-HMM . UM, I THINK THERE WERE, UH, A NUMBER OF WRITTEN COMMENTS SUBMITTED. CORRECT. UM, SO THOSE WRITTEN COMMENTS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED AND WILL BE CARRIED OVER TO WHEN THIS ITEM RETURNS. VERY GOOD. OKAY. UH, WITH THAT, WE HAVE A MOTION A SECOND AND WE'RE NOT SHOWING THEM YEAH. LISTED YET. MOTION IN A SECOND? NO, LET ME TRY IT ONE MORE TIME. OKAY. LET'S DO IT ONE MORE TIME THERE. LITTLE GLITZ MAKER. THE MOTION BUSH. THERE WE GO. SECOND WAS OKAY. YOU MIND THERE? IT'S OKAY. SO, YOU KNOW, DISCUSSION. THIS WILL BE FOR CONTINUANCE THROUGH OUR NEXT MEETING. UH, PLEASE VOTE. MOTION TO APPROVE UNANIMOUSLY. ALRIGHT. [9.2 Adoption of an Ordinance Amending Chapter 9.60 of the National City Municipal Code to Expand Operating Hours for Store Front Cannabis Retail Facilities.] UH, NEXT WE GO TO, UH, 9.2. THIS IS PUBLIC HEARING ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING, UH, CHAPTER 9.60 OF THE NATIONAL CITY MUNICIPAL CODE TO EXPAND OPERATING HOURS FOR STOREFRONT CANNABIS RETAIL FACILITIES. AND WITH THAT, DO WE HAVE ANY, ANY, UH, CONTINUING STAFF REPORT ON THAT? WE DO NOT HAVE A STAFF REPORT AND WE'RE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. VERY GOOD. WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO OPEN THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING AND WE DON'T HAVE NO, OKAY. WE DO NOT HAVE ANY, UH, PUBLIC SPEAKERS ON THAT AS FAR AS THAT, BUT WE DO HAVE BY ZOOM I DID. CORRECT. OKAY. SO IF WE COULD HAVE THEM. THANK YOU. UM, JUDITH STRENGTH. GOOD EVENING CITY COUNCIL. I THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS ITEM 9.2, THE INCREASING OF MARIJUANA STOREFRONT HOURS. MY CONCERN HAS BEEN FROM THE BEGINNING THAT THE APPLICATIONS WENT OUT LISTING CERTAIN BUSINESS HOURS AND EXPECTATIONS. AND MY FEELING IS THAT THEY SHOULD OPEN UNDER THOSE VERY SAME HOURS AND EXPECTATIONS. AND ANY CHANGES THAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING OUGHT TO HAPPEN, HAPPEN AFTER THEY'VE OPERATED FOR A WHILE. IT'S A VERY UNUSUAL [01:35:01] PROCEDURE TO SET UP A STANDARD FOR PERMITTING AND THEN CHANGE IT JUST AS THE BUSINESSES ARE OPENING WITHOUT GIVING THE PUBLIC A CHANCE TO SEE WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE AND WHAT MIGHT BE THE OUTCOME. AND NOT GIVING YOU THE CITY COUNCIL AND YOUR STAFF AN OPPORTUNITY, AND PARTICULARLY NOT THE OPPORTUNITY FOR YOUR LAW ENFORCEMENT TO SEE IF THE BUSINESSES ARE PROBLEMATIC BECAUSE THEY CERTAINLY HAVE BEEN IN OTHER CITIES. I'D ALSO LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT MARIJUANA BUSINESSES ARE NOT WITHOUT THEIR PROBLEMS. THEY HAVE CREATED ISSUES IN EVERY CITY IN THE COUNTY WHERE THEY EXIST. AND I MIGHT MENTION THERE ARE MANY CITIES IN THE COUNTY WHO HAVE NOT PERMITTED THEM FOR THE VERY REASON OF PAST HISTORIES OF PROBLEMS IN OTHER CITIES. SO WHAT YOU'RE ANTICIPATING ISN'T NECESSARILY ACROSS THE ENTIRE COUNTY. SO THERE ISN'T JUST A WEALTH OF EXPERIENCE YET. AND, UH, I THINK A WAIT AND SEE ATTITUDE TOWARDS THEM WOULD BE FAR WISER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MADISON WRAP. I THANK YOU. I'M HERE TO EXPRESS MY CONCERN ABOUT THE PROPOSAL TO EXTEND OPERATING HOURS FOR CANNABIS STOREFRONTS IN NATIONAL CITY. I THINK 9:00 AM TO 9:00 PM IS ALREADY PLENTY OF HOURS IN THE DAY FOR PEOPLE TO ACCESS CANNABIS. MOST BUSINESSES DON'T OPEN AT 6:00 AM IT'S NOT EVEN EASY TO FIND A BREAKFAST RESTAURANT OPEN AT 6:00 AM YET THIS PROPOSAL WILL ALLOW PEOPLE TO GO GET CANNABIS BRIGHT AND EARLY. IT COULD BE SAID THAT SOME ARE USING MEDICAL MARIJUANA AND NEED TO HAVE ACCESS, BUT EVEN MOST PHARMACIES DON'T OPEN UNTIL EIGHT OR NINE OR EVEN 10:00 AM OR NOON. IF I CAN WAIT UNTIL A PHARMACY OPENS TO GO PICK UP MY KID'S PRESCRIPTION EYE DROPS FOR PINK EYE LIKE I HAD TO DO TODAY. I THINK ADULTS USING MEDICAL MARIJUANA COULD DO THE SAME, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING THAT 80% OF PEOPLE USING MEDICAL MARIJUANA ALSO USE IT RECREATIONALLY. SOME HAVE ARGUED THAT WE SHOULD ALIGN OUR HOURS WITH SURROUNDING CITIES, BUT OUR PRIORITIES SHOULDN'T BE SHAPED BY WHAT OTHERS ARE DOING. WHAT MAY WORK FOR A LARGER CITY WITH MORE RESOURCES OR DIFFERENT DEMOGRAPHICS MIGHT NOT BE RIGHT FOR NATIONAL CITY. EXTENDING HOURS WOULD MEAN MORE EXPOSURE, MORE TRAFFIC, AND MORE POTENTIAL FOR YOUTH ACCESS AND IMPAIRED DRIVING. THESE ARE REAL CONCERNS FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, ESPECIALLY THOSE ALREADY IMPACTED BY ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL STRESS. WE DON'T NEED TO FOLLOW A REGIONAL RACE TO THE BOTTOM. INSTEAD, WE SHOULD LEAD WITH THOUGHTFUL HEALTH-FOCUSED POLICY THAT PUTS OUR RESIDENTS FIRST, LET'S TAKE A STAND FOR BALANCE AND SAFETY. LET'S RESIST THE PRESSURE TO KEEP UP WITH OTHER CITIES AND INSTEAD DO WHAT'S BEST FOR NATIONAL CITY. PLEASE VOTE NO ON EXTENDING CANNABIS STOREFRONT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR COMMITMENT TO OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. BARBARA GORDON. UM, BARBARA GORDON. THANK YOU. UM, GOOD EVENING. AS A PUBLIC HEALTH ADVOCATE, EXTENDING THE HOURS OF OPERATION FOR A MARIJUANA BUSINESS RAISES SEVERAL CONCERNS THAT WARRANT CAREFUL CONSIDERATION. I AM NOT SURE HOW EXTENDING HOURS OF OPERATION WILL ENHANCE COMMUNITY SAFETY. LONGER HOURS UNDERMINES THE PRIMARY GOAL OF RESPONSIBLE REGULATIONS AND CAN EXASPERATE PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUES OF IN, OF INCREASED INCIDENTS OF PUBLIC INTOXICATION OR DISTURBANCES. AS CUSTER CUSTOMERS MAY LINGER OUTSIDE THE ESTABLISHMENT. MOREOVER, EXTENDED HOURS MAY CONTRIBUTE TO THE NEIGHBOR'S DISTURBANCES INCLUDING NOISE AND INCREASE IN INTOXICATED DRIVERS, WHICH CAN DEVASTATE THE COMMUNITY. RESIDENTS MAY FEEL LESS SAFE, ESPECIALLY DURING LATE HOURS WHEN SUPERVISION IS DIMINISHED. THE FOCUS SHOULD REMAIN ON PROMOTING RESPONSIBLE CONSUMPTION AND ENSURING THAT MARIJUANA BUSINESS OPERATES IN A MANNER THAT PRIORITIZES COMMUNITY WELLBEING. RATHER THAN EXTENDING HOURS, BUSINESSES SHOULD CONSIDER FOSTERING A MORE RESPONSIBLE AND COMMUNITY ORIENTED APPROACH TO MARIJUANA RETAIL. NEARBY BUSINESSES MIGHT ALSO SUFFER FROM DISTURBANCES AS NOISE CROWDING CAN DETER CUSTOMERS FROM VISITING OTHER SHOPS OR SERVICES IN THE AREA LEADING TO A NEGATIVE ECONOMIC IMPACT ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IN SUMMARY, EXTENDING HOURS CAN SIGNIFICANTLY AFFECT THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR NEARBY RESIDENTS, MAKING IT A CRUCIAL, ANY BENEFITS OF LONGER OPERATING, [01:40:01] UM, HOURS. I HOPE YOU WILL NOT CHANGE THE HOURS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU MAYOR. THAT CONCLUDES OUR ZOOM COMMENT. WE DID HAVE ONE WRITTEN COMMENT AND SCRIBE COMMENT FROM TED GOTCHU. ALRIGHT, WITH THAT, THAT'S ALL OF THE, UH, SPEAKERS THAT WE HAVE. COULD WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. I SECOND CHAIR. OKAY. UH, SOON AS IT COMES UP, WE CAN OPEN THE VOTING. THERE IT IS. PLEASE VOTE. MOTION TO APPROVE UNANIMOUSLY. OKAY. SO NOW, UH, FOR DISCUSSION OR MOTIONS, WHATEVER. MOVE TO APPROVE. HAVE A SECOND. SECOND. SORRY. TRY THAT AGAIN. SAY WHAT? IF YOU COULD DO YOUR MOTION AND SECOND AGAIN. THANK YOU. OKAY. DO IT AGAIN? NO, NO. IT'S THERE. IT'S THERE. OKAY. THERE IT IS NOW. YEAH. OKAY. WE HAVE MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, PLEASE VOTE. MOTION APPROVED BY FOUR TO ONE VOTE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER YAMANI VOTING. NO. OKAY. UH, [9.3 Public Hearing and Adoption of an Ordinance Amending National City Municipal Code Title 11, Section 11.32.140, Pertaining to Stopping and Parking Prohibitions.] NEXT WE GO ON TO NINE THREE. UH, PUBLIC HEARING ADOPTION OF THE ORDINANCE AMENDING NATIONAL CITY'S MUNICIPAL CODE. TITLE 11, SECTION 11.3 2.140 PERTAINING TO STOPPING AND PARKING PROHIBITIONS. UM, AND SO I DON'T THINK ANYTHING NEW HAS COME UP ON THAT FOR STAFFING REPORT. GOOD EVENING. WE DO NOT HAVE A STAFF REPORT, BUT WE'RE OPEN TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND THIS IS TO GET US IN LINE WITH THE, UH, STATE LAW. UM, WE COULD OPEN THE, UH, I'M OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. WE DO NOT HAVE ANY SPEAKERS. I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE ANYONE ON ZOOM ON THIS ONE EITHER. OKAY. SO WE CAN HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SO MOVED. OKAY. WE HAVE SECOND THERE. THE ARE MOTION AND A SECOND. SEE NO DISCUSSION. PLEASE VOTE. MOTION APPROVE UNANIMOUSLY. OKAY. UM, SO NOW WHAT IS, WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE? MOVE TO APPROVE. SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION. AND SECOND. THERE IT IS. COMMENT. MR. MAY. YES. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. UM, LAST, UH, THE FIRST, UM, THE FIRST READING, WE REQUESTED TO SHOW US HOW WE'RE GOING TO, TO INFORM OUR, UM, RESIDENTS IN OUR COMMUNITY ON THIS, UM, UM, INITIATIVE. SO THAT, UM, UH, THERE, THERE IS NO SURPRISES FROM OUR RESIDENTS. UM, AND I, I, I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF THAT'S ALREADY IN PLACE. UM, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR. SO THEN WE CAN, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE WILL BE NO COMPLAINTS, UM, THAT WE HEAR FROM, FROM OUR RESIDENTS. UM, WE DON'T WANT THIS TO BE SURPRISED TO THEM OR THAT THEY WILL REGARD IT AS A PUNITIVE ON OUR SIDE. THANK YOU. YES. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER YAI FOR THAT QUESTION. UH, FOR THE RECORD, MARTA JUAREZ, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR ENGINEERING AND PUBLIC WORKS. UH, YES, WE HAVE BEEN, UH, DILIGENTLY WORKING ON GETTING THE WORD OUT. WE HAD, I BELIEVE PRIOR TO THE LAST PRESENTATION HERE AT, AT THE, UH, COUNCIL MEETING, WE HAD ALREADY TAKEN THIS ITEM TO A TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMITTEE FOR A PUBLIC, UH, REPORT ON HOW THIS WORKS. WE HAVE ALSO ADDED IT TO OUR WEBSITE. WE, UM, CREATED THESE MAILERS THAT I, UH, WE HAVE A STACK OF OUTSIDE AS WELL. THIS, THIS IS JUST SORT OF, OF A GENERAL REFERENCE CARD ABOUT, UM, THE SAFER STREETS DAYLIGHTING LAW, THAT IT'S REALLY A CALIFORNIA STATE LAW THAT WE'RE ADOPTING IT THROUGH ORDINANCE AB 4 4 13. SO THIS IS AN INFORMATIONAL FLYER THAT IS BEING MAILED OUT TO THE ENTIRE CITY. UM, I DON'T HAVE A DATE FOR WHEN THIS IS GOING OUT, BUT IT IS IN PROCESS. AND, UM, MY UNDERSTANDING AS WELL. AND, AND IF, UH, DIRECTOR AIRA WANTS TO COMMENT, HE HE MAY CHOOSE TO, IS ALSO THAT ON THE, UM, ENFORCEMENT SIDE, THAT THERE'S FLYERS THAT HAVE OR WILL BE, UH, PROVIDED AS SORT OF WARNINGS, UM, RATHER THAN CITATIONS PRIOR TO CITATIONS BEGINNING IN JUNE. THAT IS CORRECT. . UM, JUST QUICK QUESTION. DOES ON THE FLYER, DOES IT MAKE ANY KIND OF STATEMENT OR ANYTHING THAT IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE PAINTED RED IT, SO IT DOES ACTUALLY SAY UNDER THIS NEW LAW, DRIVERS COULD RECEIVE A CITATION FOR PARKING IN A DAYLIGHTED SPOT, EVEN IF THE CURVE IS NOT PAINTED RED. CORRECT. AND THEN IT HAS A QR CODE THAT DIRECTS YOU TO OUR WEBSITE WHERE [01:45:01] THERE'S MORE INFORMATION AS WELL. AND CERTAINLY OUR CONTACT IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS OR CONFUSION STILL. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO WITH THAT, LET'S SEE. WE HAVE ON THIS ONE, WE HAVE CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING, HAVE WE NOT? AND THEN WE HAVE OUR MOTION OR SECOND CORRECT. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE GOING THROUGH THESE THINGS RATHER. WE'RE RAPIDLY. I WANNA MAKE SURE WHERE WE'RE AT HERE. OKAY. UH, WITH THAT, IF THAT'S ALL, LET'S PLEASE VOTE. MOTION APPROVE UNANIMOUSLY. OKAY. THOSE [10.1 Public Hearing and Adoption of a Resolution of the City Council of the City of National City Amending the Previously Adopted Transportation Development Impact Fee (TDIF) Schedule and Annual Adjustment to the TDIF.] WERE OUR CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARINGS AND NOW WE HAVE ONE HERE, UM, 10.1. AND THIS IS PUBLIC, UH, PUBLIC HEARING AND ADOPTION OF A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL, CITY NASHVILLE CITY AMENDING THE PREVIOUSLY ADOPTED TRANSPORTATION DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEE, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS THE TD SCHEDULE AND ANNUAL ADJUSTMENTS TO THE T DIFF AND UM, STAFF REPORT. THANK YOU. UM, AGAIN, FOR THE RECORD, MARTA JUAREZ, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING AND PUBLIC WORKS. UM, WE DO NOT HAVE A FORMAL PRESENTATION OR STAFF REPORT, BUT I WILL JUST GIVE YOU A REALLY BRIEF SYNOPSIS THAT THIS IS OUR ANNUAL UPDATE TO OUR TRANSPORTATION DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEE ITEM. UH, THE FEES PRESENTED ARE FOR NEW RESIDENTIAL UNITS AND THEY ARE THE MINIMUM REQUIRED BY SANDAG THAT LOCAL AGENCIES HAVE TO BEGIN CHARGING AS A FISCAL YEAR 26 TO COMPLY WITH THE RULES UNDER THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION CONGESTION IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM OR R-T-C-I-P, UH, TO ENSURE THAT WE RECEIVE OUR FULL ALLOCATION OF TRANSNET FUNDS FROM SANDAG. AND JUST TO CLARIFY THAT, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UM, ADUS AND ASSISTED LIVING FACILITIES ARE EXEMPT FROM T DIFF, SO THEY DO NOT GET CHARGED THAT. ALRIGHT. UM, OKAY. UM, WITH THAT I CAN OPEN THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING. WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER, MR. THOMAS REICH. I'M AGAINST IT BECAUSE IT'S, IT, IT MAKES IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR SINGLE FAMILIES TO OWN A HOME. MM-HMM . HERE THIS FEE IS $3,000 AND THAT'S AWFUL EXPENSIVE. MM-HMM . AND THAT'S, AND IF YOUR SALARY AND YOU WANTED TO BUY A HOME, BUY A HOME IN SAN DIEGO OR TAKE A A FEW MONTHS PAYCHECKS TO COVER THIS. $3,000. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THAT IS ALL THE SPEAKERS THAT WE HAVE ON THIS ITEM. WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND. OKAY. AND PLEASE VOTE. MOTION APPROVE UNANIMOUSLY. OKAY. THAT CLOSES THE PUBLIC HEARING. LET ME JUST SAY REAL QUICK. THIS IS A REQUIREMENT FOR US. UH, IF WE DO NOT DO IT, THEN WE BASICALLY LOSE ALL KINDS OF TRANSPORTATION MONEY. UH, THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS VOTED ON BY THE VOTERS OF SAN DIEGO COUNTY. UH, THAT WAS IN 2004 AND IT WAS PART OF TRANSNET TWO. AND IT ORIGINALLY STARTED OUT AT $2,000 PER UNIT. AND IT HAS AN ESCALATOR EACH YEAR. AND SO THIS IS, BUT IT HAS TO BE ADOPTED EACH YEAR THAT ESCALATOR HAS TO BE ADOPTED. IF WE DO NOT, WE LOSE OUT ON AS SAY, A WHOLE BUNCH OF TRANSPORTATION MONEY. AND WHAT THIS MONEY HAS TO BE USED FOR IS FOR ANYTIME WE'RE BUILDING MORE NEW HOUSING FOR THE REGIONAL ARTERIALS. 'CAUSE THIS IS A REGIONAL PLAN. SO IT'S NOT JUST FOR ANY STREETS, BUT THE REGIONAL ARTERIALS TO EXPAND THE CAPACITY ON THOSE REGIONAL ARTERIALS. AND LOCALLY WE HAVE TO, WHATEVER MONEY IS COLLECTED, WE HAVE FIVE YEARS IN WHICH TO SPEND IT. IF WE DO NOT AS A CITY, AS A JURISDICTION, SPEND IT ON IN, IN INCREASING THE CAPACITY OF THAT REGIONAL ARTERIAL, THEN UH, IT GOES TO A REGIONAL POT AND ALL THE OTHER CITIES GET TO USE THE MONEY THAT WOULD COME FROM THE HOUSING HERE. SO ALL IT IS, IT'S JUST BASICALLY SAYING THAT THE, IF YOU'RE GONNA ADD MORE HOUSING, THEY HAVE TO HELP TO BUILD UP THE TRANSPORTATION HERE. UH, THERE'S NO OPEN SPACE, SO YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE A DEVELOPER BUILDING WAY OUT HERE AND PUT IN ALL THE ROAD SYSTEM AND EVERYTHING FOR IT. EVERYTHING. THE ROADS ARE ALL HERE ALREADY. UH, THE ONE GOOD THING ABOUT THIS IS, UH, I WAS CHAIRMAN OF SANDAG BACK AT THAT TIME WHEN WE PUT THIS THING TOGETHER. AND SO THIS WAS GOING THROUGH, BUT WHEN I KNEW THAT NATIONAL CITY, WE CAN'T INCREASE THE SIZE OF OUR REGIONAL ARTERIALS, WE'RE, WE CAN'T MAKE THE, THE STREETS BIGGER. SO INCLUDED A DEAL IN THERE. 'CAUSE I KNEW WHAT IT WAS, HOW IT WOULD AFFECT NATIONAL CITY WAS THAT YOU COULD ALSO IN INCREASE YOUR, UH, TRANSIT CAPACITY. SO THAT INCREASES THE CAPACITY THAT THAT REGIONAL ARTERIAL CAN BE. AND WE HAVE A LOT OF REGIONAL ARTERIALS IN [01:50:01] NATIONAL CITY. YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING FROM NATIONAL CITY BOULEVARD, HIGHLAND, EUCLID COME THE OTHER WAY. DIVISION EIGHTH PLAZA, I THINK 16TH AND 18TH, THEY'RE IN ON THAT TOO. I KNOW 30TH STREET IS AND 24TH. 24TH IS. SO WE HAVE A LOT OF REGIONAL ARTERIALS HERE IN NATIONAL CITY. UM, AND SO THIS MONEY CAN ACTUALLY EVEN BE USED, UM, FOR, AND I WAS GONNA BRING IT UP LATER, BUT OUR FRANK SYSTEM AND BECAUSE THAT IT CAN ACTUALLY BE ACTUALLY BE USED TO HELP ON THAT TO, TO HELP FUND ANY, ANY, ANY GAPS IN THAT AS, UM, UH, AS A TRANSIT, UH, SYSTEM. AND, UH, BUT WE JUST HAPPENED TO HAVE JUST RECEIVED ANOTHER GRANT FOR FRANK THAT WILL ALLOW US TO ADD A THIRD FRANK VEHICLE AND THE MANPOWER TO DO IT BY THE END OF THE YEAR. WE'LL HAVE A THIRD ONE, UH, WHICH WILL HELP GREATLY. BUT, UH, BUT AS I SAY, BUT THIS MONEY, THIS MONEY IS FOR REGIONAL ARTERIALS AND WE REALLY DON'T HAVE A CHOICE ON THIS. WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO ADOPT, WE HAVE TO ADOPT THE INCREASE EV ON A YEARLY BASIS. THAT'S MY WHOLE SPIEL ON THAT. WHAT IS EVERYONE'S PLEASURE MOVE TO APPROVE? UH, THIS IS TO ADOPT, UH, THE RESOLUTION AS DETAILED IN THE STAFF REPORT. CORRECT. UH, MOVE TO APPROVE. OKAY. GOOD. PUSH YOUR BUTTON AGAIN. OH, PLEASE. YEAH. THANK YOU. AND DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. OKAY. THERE WE GO. MOTION SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION PLEASE VOTE. MOTION APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY. ALRIGHT. UM, NEXT WE GET INTO, UH, STAFF REPORTS. WE HAVE, EXCUSE ME, MAYOR. YES. CAN I ADD ONE THING, PLEASE? YES. UM, THERE WAS AN ITEM THAT WAS, UH, JUST, IT WAS NOTICED AND SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, WE ACKNOWLEDGE IT. THERE WAS THE SECOND READING OF THE ORDINANCE ADOPTING CHAPTER 15.29 OF THE, UH, ESTABLISHING A FIRE INSPECTION PROGRAM. AND THE SECOND READING WAS DUE TO BE, UM, READ TONIGHT AND WITH THE POSSIBLE ADOPTION AND, UM, THE STAFF REQUIRED MORE TIME TO FINALIZE THIS REPORT. SO IT IS BEING PUSHED TO THE MAY 6TH MEETINGS. OKAY. WE JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT. OKAY. SINCE IT HAD BEEN IN, UH, THE STAR NEWS AND IT WILL GO AGAIN, UH, THAT IT'LL BE NOTICED AGAIN ON FRIDAY IN THE STAR NEWS. OKAY. SO IT WAS NOTICED FOR THIS MEETING, BUT IT WILL BE NOW NOTICED FOR THE NEXT MEETING. CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. [11.1 City Council Expenditure Report July 2024 through January 2025 – FY2025] UH, WITH THAT WE GET INTO STAFF REPORTS FIRST. UH, ONE IS 11.1 CITY COUNCIL EXPENDITURE REPORT. THIS IS FROM JULY, 2024 THROUGH JANUARY, 2025. AND DO WE HAVE ANY, ANY REPORT FROM STAFF ON THAT? NO. MAYOR, NO REPORT. WE'RE HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. ALRIGHT. UH, WE DO HAVE ONE SPEAKER ON THIS, UH, ED RANO. I HAVE, UH, TWO COMMENTS. UM, FIRST COMMENT IS, YOU KNOW, I, I NOTICED THAT THE TWO OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE HAD QUITE A BIT OF, UH, ITEMS THAT ARE LISTED AS SNACKS. YOU KNOW, , THINK ABOUT, UH, PUT 'EM TOGETHER. THAT'S AT LEAST, UH, YOU KNOW, $2,500. THAT'S ALMOST HALF OF A PERSON'S, UH, EXPECTED SALARY INCREASE IF YOU, IF YOU SHOULD, IF YOU SHOULD DO THAT, YOU KNOW, SO I THINK THAT'S NOT A WISE THING TO, TO, UH, SPEND IT ON. I HOPE YOU COME UP WITH SOME SORT OF, UH, GUIDELINES ON WHAT THIS COULD BE SPENT ON THAT'S RELATED TO THE ITEMS. THAT'S SOUNDS SILLY. SPENDING, UH, THAT MUCH MONEY ON SNACKS. THAT'S MY FIRST COMMENT. THE SECOND COMMENT IS, UM, THIS REPORT HERE, IT DOESN'T TELL ME OTHER THAN THE, THE NON-PERSONNEL COSTS YOU GET INTO THE SAL UH, SALARIES. IT DOESN'T GIVE YOU ANY DETAIL. I KEEP COMING BACK AND ASKING, WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH THIS, WITH THESE SALARIES? THERE'S NO DETAILS. WHAT ARE THE OUTCOMES? WHAT ARE THE OUTPUTS? $60,000. I MEAN, WHAT DO WE HAVE? WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THERE'S NO DESCRIPTIONS. THIS IS STUFF THAT'S BEEN HITTING IN THE NEWSPAPER. WHAT HAVE YOU DONE? LIST THE ITEMS, LIST THE OUTCOMES. IF YOU'RE GONNA DO THIS RIGHT NOW, WE CAN'T GO FORTH IN A, IN A, ON ANOTHER BUDGET ON THIS LIGHT ITEM AND, UH, HAVE $400,000 AND THEN COME BACK AND NOT KNOW WHAT WE'RE GONNA GET. YOU KNOW, RON AND, AND, AND JOSE, THEY LIST, THEY SAID THEIR WORKERS DO A LOT. I'VE ASKED YOU LIST IT OUT AND LET'S DO A COMPARISON. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. UM, COUNCIL'S PLEASURE THERE. ANY COMMENTS OR ANYTHING ELSE? UH, MEMBER MOLINA. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, SO I THINK WE ARE SUPPOSED TO [01:55:01] BE RECEIVING THESE EXPENDITURE REPORTS ON A QUARTERLY BASIS, IS THAT CORRECT? AND THIS IS THE FIRST ONE THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED. UH, AND IT COVERS JULY, 2024 THROUGH JANUARY, 2025. UM, BUT IT'S, IT'S, WE NEED TO GET INTO THE RHYTHM OF PROVIDING THESE REPORTS EVERY THREE MONTHS BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT, UH, THE POLICY STATES THAT WE WOULD BE DOING. SO MY QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH WHEN DO WE EXPECT TO RECEIVE THE OVERDUE REPORT FOR THE REPORTING PERIOD? JANUARY TO MARCH. THERE WAS, BRUCE, WHAT DO YOU THINK? UM, YOU CAN HAVE THAT NEXT REPORT. WELL, PROBABLY LIKE IN TWO MEETINGS. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. AND, AND HOPEFULLY IT WOULD BE FOR THAT TWO MONTHS TO GET US ONTO A QUARTERLY MM-HMM . QUARTERLY BASIS. THEN SINCE THIS ONE WENT, WENT INTO, YOU KNOW, ONE MONTH INTO WHAT IS NORMALLY A QUARTER DOING JANUARY. SO ON THIS NEXT ONE, IF IT COULD JUST BE A TWO MONTH REPORT AND FROM, YOU KNOW, FEBRUARY AND MARCH, AND THAT WILL GET US ON A QUARTERLY BASIS THEN. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YES. CAN I ASK JUST AN ADDITIONAL FOLLOW UP, BRUCE? UM, UM, ARE THESE REPORTS JUST LIKE, JUST OVERLY ONEROUS TO COMPILE? NO. ONE OF THE PROBLEMS IS, UM, THE CREDIT CARD TRANSACTIONS THAT THEY HAVEN'T BEEN PROCESSED ON A TIMELY BASIS. SO, UM, STAFF WAS WAITING FOR RECEIPTS FROM COUNSEL ON SOME OF THE CHARGES. SO THAT WAS HOLDING UP THE PROCESS. THANK YOU FOR THAT DETAIL. SO IT'S ON US, THE DELAY IS ON US. SOME OF THE TRANSACTIONS. YES. IT'S OKAY. YEAH, IT'S SOMEWHERE IN THE PROCESS BECAUSE JUST A COUPLE WEEKS AGO I WAS RECEIVING SOME AND I LOOKED AT 'EM AND I GO, I THOUGHT THESE ALREADY HAPPENED. AND THEN I LOOKED AT 'EM AND THEY WERE CREDIT CARD RECEIPTS THAT HAD WENT BACK. THEY WERE BACK IN SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER AND JUST, IT, THEY'RE JUST COMING ACROSS HERE ABOUT TWO, THREE WEEKS AGO. OKAY. SO YEAH, THAT, THAT REALLY MESSES THINGS UP. SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET KIND OF CAUGHT UP WITH THAT KIND OF STUFF. OKAY. THANK YOU. I MOVE TO APPROVE. OKAY. I'LL SECOND, I HAVE SOME COMMENTS. OKAY. UH, DID YOU SAY THAT WAS FOR MOTION AND A SECOND? DID YOU YEAH. GET THOSE IN THERE AND THEN OKAY. ANY COMMENT YOU SAID? YEAH, SO MR. NIETO, WE'VE SPOKE BEFORE. I APPRECIATE THE OVERSIGHT AND ACCOUNTABILITY. UM, AND I, AND I TALKED TO YOU ABOUT THIS BEFORE, KIND OF DETAILING WHAT MY, UH, COUNSEL REP, REP REP DOES. SO IN TERMS OF COMMUNICATIONS, CHECKING MY EMAILS, RESPONDING TO CONSTITUENT COMPLAINTS, UM, ANALYSIS ON, UH, DOING POLICY BRIEFS FOR MTS ON AIR POLLUTION CONTROL DISTRICT. I, I WILL SAY THAT, UH, OUR, MY NEWSLETTER IS, IS BEHIND. THERE'S BEEN A LOT GOING ON THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS. I HAVE A REPORT, UM, HERE THAT I DIDN'T GET TO, UM, THAT I, I WILL POST, UH, UH, PUBLICLY THE DETAILS, UH, THE MO MOBILITY CONFERENCE AND SOME, SOME TAKEAWAYS FROM THERE. UH, I, I HOPE THAT I, I COULD JUST TELL YOU PERSONALLY THAT, UH, THAT HOW MUCH THAT IT'S HELPED ME BE MORE EFFECTIVE IN MY, IN MY JOB AND RESPOND TO CONSTITUENT ISSUES. AND IT'S, UM, HELPED ME. UM, DANIEL HAS HELPED ME SPECIFICALLY WITH BUDGET. UH, SO WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO HAVE INFORMAL, UH, BUDGET MEETINGS, HELP ME COMB THROUGH, UNDERSTAND, UH, IDENTIFY SOME, UH, POTENTIAL REVENUES AND, UM, EXPENDITURES. SO, UH, SO IT'S IN. AND SO I, I THINK I WILL BE ABLE TO SHOW, UH, RETURN ON THE INVESTMENT AND FOLKS CAN QUIBBLE ABOUT WHATEVER. UM, IF, UM, WHAT I, WHAT I PROVIDE, UM, ISN'T, ISN'T JUST A ISN'T IS OR ISN'T JUSTIFIABLE, BUT I, BUT I HAVE NO ISSUE BEING TRANSPARENT AND I'LL, AND I'LL SAY THAT, UM, I'M NOT PERFECT EITHER. I'LL, I'LL ADMIT THAT, UM, IN THIS CONFERENCE, UH, RENTED A CAR AND SHOULD NOT HAVE. SO THAT'S A LESSON LEARNED BECAUSE WE DIDN'T END UP NEEDING IT. AND ALL WE DID IS PAY FOR PARKING FEES. SO I'LL ADMIT THAT WE SHOULD HAVE SPENT MORE, I SHOULD HAVE USED IT MORE WISELY THERE. SO I CAN COMMIT TO, TO DOING THAT ON A CONFERENCE AND, AND JUST REPORTING OUT. BUT WE WERE PART-TIME TO PAID PART-TIME. IT'S A FULL-TIME JOB. WE DO NEED STAFF SUPPORTING OUR OWN STAFF. SO I, I WILL CONTINUE TO ADVOCATE THAT, AND YOU'RE RIGHT FOR ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY, MAKING SURE WE'RE NOT USING THIS FOR POLITICAL PURPOSES. AND I COMMIT TO THAT. I HAVEN'T DONE THAT AND THAT I WON'T DO THAT MOVING FORWARD. YES. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, YOU KNOW, I I WILL ALSO COMMIT AND, AND I DO APPRECIATE, UH, SPEAKING WITH YOU, UH, ED, I KNOW YOU CALLED ME A COUPLE TIMES, , AND ONE OF THE TOPICS WE CALL, WE TALKED ABOUT WAS THIS CONCERN IS, OKAY, ALL OF THIS MONEY IS GOING TO STAFF, BUT WHAT ARE THEY DOING? SO, UM, I I DO, YOU KNOW, I I LIKE THAT MARCUS IS BEING FORTHCOMING WITH INFORMATION. I WOULD ALSO, UM, AGREE TO, UH, PROVIDE THIS TYPE [02:00:01] OF INFORMATION. AND I HOLD MONTHLY TOWN HALLS. THOSE ARE, UH, AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC. AND, UM, THAT WOULD BE THE AVENUE THAT I WOULD DISCLOSE THAT INFORMATION. AND I'LL START DOING THAT AT MY NEXT TOWN HALL AT THE END OF THIS MONTH. THANK YOU. OKAY, MEMBER RODRIGUEZ. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. UM, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS ISSUE UP. UH, COUNCIL MEMBER MOLINA, I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO BE AS TRANSPARENT AS POSSIBLE, UH, ON THE ISSUE. AND SIMILAR TO MY COLLEAGUES, UM, I MEAN, WE'RE PART-TIME ELECTED OFFICIALS AND WE HAVE A LIFE OUTSIDE OF THIS. AND SO, UH, THIS ACTUALLY TAKES UP A LOT OF OUR TIME. SO IT IS HELPFUL TO HAVE STAFF TO HELP US DO A WIDE VARIETY OF THINGS. ONE IS TO BE MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE ON ANY OF THE INDIVIDUAL SUBJECTS, DEAL WITH CONSTITUENT ISSUES, WHICH YOU WOULD BE SURPRISED. I MEAN, I PASS ON TO STAFF, SO YOU ALL WOULD KNOW. BUT IT'S, IT'S A LOT OF ISSUES THAT NEED TO HAVE CONSTANT FOLLOW-UPS. AND ULTIMATELY WE'RE ELECTED OFFICIALS AND WE'RE THE, YOU KNOW, LISTENING TO THE COMMUNITY'S NEEDS, AND WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS THEM AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. SO, UM, I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO, UM, UH, LOOK AT EVERY WHICH WAY WHERE WE CAN, UM, UH, BE PRUDENT WITH OUR FUNDING, AND AT THE SAME TIME MAKING SURE THAT, UH, WE PROVIDE THE BEST SERVICES POSSIBLE FOR OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. UM, YES. UM, CO UM, ECHO MY COLLEAGUES, HOW IMPORTANT, UM, OUR EXECUTIVE, MY EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT IS TO ME. UM, I REPRESENT OUR CITY WITH FIVE, UH, DIFFERENT AGENCIES, PLUS ALMOST EVERY DAY ME AND MY ASSISTANT DO A DISTRICT DRIVE THROUGH IN OUR DISTRICT. AND, UM, HE BOMBARDS OUR STAFF WITH THINGS THAT NEEDED TO BE, UM, ADDRESSED IN OUR, IN, IN OUR DISTRICT. NOT ONLY IN THE DISTRICT, BUT YOU KNOW, WHEN WE DRIVE AROUND AND WE SEE IT, WE ALSO INFORM OUR STAFF OF THINGS THAT SOMETIMES, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU SEE THE THOROUGHFARE, BUT YOU KNOW, THERE ARE, FOR US, WE GO THROUGH THE ALLEYS AND, AND, UM, THOSE, UH, STREETS THAT ARE DIFFICULT TO, TO DRIVE THAT ARE NOT BEING DRIVEN. UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN BY, BY, UH, BY HEAVY TRAFFIC, WE TAKE CARE OF THOSE, UM, TAKING CARE OF OUR CONSTITUENTS QUESTIONS. AND, UH, THERE'S A LOT EVENTS THAT WE HAVE TO GO TO AND ADDRESS, UM, INFORMATION. UM, WE DO, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M IN A LOT OF OPEN HOUSE, UM, CONVERSATION WITH OUR CONSTITUENTS AND, AND RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES. UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE'RE VERY ACTIVE WITH THAT. UM, DEALING WITH THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, PARTNERING WITH, UH, OUR CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. UM, SO THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT AS A, UH, A PART-TIME AND I, YOU KNOW, IT COMES WITH THE TERRITORY. I'M NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT IT. I KNOW WHAT, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WHAT IT ENTAILS. BUT HAVING, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN MY EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT, UM, WHO ALSO SPEAKS, UM, A SECOND LANGUAGE, WHICH IS, UM, SPANISH, WHICH, UH, CATERS TO MY, UH, SPANISH SPEAKING RESIDENTS. I THINK WE, I BELIEVE WHAT WE DO COVER A LOT OF THINGS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, SOMETIMES WE'RE NOT THERE TO TAKE CARE OF IT 'CAUSE WE ARE, WE ARE IN A MEETING, UM, REPRESENTING OUR CITY, OR I AM TAKING CARE ALSO ADDRESSING MY BUSINESS, UM, AS A BUSINESS OWNER IN THE CITY. UM, MY ASSISTANT IS THERE, UM, MAKING SURE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, HE IS MY EYES AND EARS, UM, MY LEFT AND RIGHT. AND, UH, AND I, UH, I I REALLY DO, UM, SEE THE VALUE AND THE, AND THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING THAT TO BE ABLE FOR ME TO SERVE MY COMMUNITY, MY DISTRICT WHO PUT ME IN THIS SEAT. THANK YOU. OKAY. YEAH. AND I, I THINK, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALWAYS IMPORTANT FOR US AS, AS ELECTED IN INDIVIDUALS AND WHEN WE DO HAVE ACCESS TO DIFFERENT FUNDS OR WHATEVER, UH, THAT WE CONSTANTLY REMEMBER THAT THEY ARE NEVER OUR FUNDS, THAT THEY ARE, THEY DO BELONG TO THE PUBLIC. AND SO THE MORE PRUDENT WE CAN BE AND THE MORE, AND ALSO REALIZING THE EXAMPLE THAT WE NEED TO SET WITH THE EXPENDITURE OF FUNDS IS, IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY IN THESE TIGHT TIMES. SO, UM, SO I SAY THIS KIND OF, UH, DISCLOSURE I THINK IS JUST THAT MUCH MORE IMPORTANT AND KIND OF, UH, KEEP TABS ON, KEEP TABS ON OURSELF. SO WITH THAT, UH, WE ARE GONNA NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND. THIS IS TO BASICALLY RECEIVING FILE? NO, THE MOTION SAID, YEAH. YES. OKAY. OKAY. YEAH, THIS IS, YEAH. SO YOU ACCEPT AND FILE, RECEIVE, YEAH, RECEIVE AND FILE THIS, YEAH. OKAY. DID YOU GET ONE? OH, SIR, [02:05:02] SORRY. THERE YOU GO. MOTION APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY. ALRIGHT, [11.2 Discussion on Recommendation to Amend City Council Policy No. 105] UH, NEXT WE GO TO, UH, 11.2. DISCUSSION OF RECOMMENDATIONS TO AMEND THE CITY POLICY. UH, NUMBER 1 0 5. SO THIS IS 1 0 5 ON A 1 0 5. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, I HAVE A SLIDE PRESENTATION I PREPARED AND I'LL COVER IT QUICKLY. UM, THIS IS A RESPONSE TO MY REQUEST TO, UH, SUGGEST, UM, OR RECOMMEND, UH, WAYS THAT WE CAN IMPROVE UPON THE POLICY. UM, AND THE SLIDE PRESENTATION IS AVAILABLE TO, UH, IN PRINT. UM, UH, I DON'T THINK I SUBMITTED IT IN TIME FOR IT TO BE ON THE AGENDA, BUT, UH, IT IS AVAILABLE. SO TO BEGIN, IF WE CAN GO TO THE FIRST SLIDE. OH, IS THAT FOR ME? THANK YOU, JUAN. OKAY, WHERE DO I POINT IT? OH, THERE WE GO. OKAY. SO, UM, THE 1 0 5 POLICY IS THE POLICY IN PLACE FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO SUGGEST, UH, ITEMS TO BE PLACED ON THE AGENDA FOR, UM, ATTENTION FOR A VOTE. UM, AND THERE ARE ISSUES WITH IT, UH, AS THE POLICY IS WRITTEN RIGHT NOW. AND THESE ARE THE ISSUES THAT, UM, THAT I, I WANNA FOCUS ON AND, AND PLAN TO ADDRESS AND HAVE SUGGESTIONS FOR. BUT THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT THAT'S ALL OF IT. YOU KNOW, THIS IS MEANT TO BE A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT, AND I'M OPEN TO ANY OF THE OPINIONS AND SUGGESTIONS THAT MY COLLEAGUES HAVE. UH, SO A COUPLE OF THE ISSUES ARE TO MINIMIZE THE INTRODUCTION OF PROPOSALS THAT ARE, UH, NOT, UH, OR THAT ARE UNDERDEVELOPED, UNDER PREPARED, OR THAT CREATE SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON RESOURCES, BUDGET, AND STAFF TIME. WE HAVE SEEN HOW THIS IS PROBLEMATIC. UM, I WANT TO ENCOURAGE COLLABORATION WITH OUR COLLEAGUES, UM, SUPPORT PROPOSALS THAT FIT INTO THE CITY'S STRATEGIC PLAN. AND ALSO, UM, DOING SOMETHING ABOUT THE THING THAT IRKS ME THE MOST, WHICH IS TALKING ABOUT IT BEFORE WE'RE SUPPOSED TO TALK ABOUT IT, UH, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT FOLLOWING THE POLICY, SO WE NEED TO FIX THE POLICY SO THAT WE'RE NOT OFTEN, UM, MOVING AWAY FROM IT. SO, OH, NEXT SLIDE. SO TO BEGIN, UM, WITH REGARDS TO, UH, UM, ENCOURAGING FULLY FORMED IDEAS, I'M INTERESTED IN CHANGING THE ONE PAGE FORM THAT, UM, WE WOULD SUBMIT FOR CONSIDERATION OF SOMETHING TO BE PLACED ON THE AGENDA. AND THAT'S WHAT THE 1 0 5 REQUEST IS, IS THIS FORM THAT IS, UH, FILLED OUT. IT'S A VERY SIMPLE FORM RIGHT NOW, BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO ADD IS, UM, A REQUEST OR A REQUIREMENT FOR A JUSTIFICATION STATEMENT, UM, WHAT IS THE NEED THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING? WHO ARE YOU ANTICIPATING IS GOING TO DO THE WORK? UM, IS THE TIME, YOU KNOW, THE TIMING FOR THE REQUEST, HOW IS IT FITTING IN? FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR BUDGET DISCUSSIONS, DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO BE PROPOSING THIS 1 0 5 REQUESTS AT THIS MOMENT? SO, UM, UH, JUSTIFICATION STATEMENT, UM, IS WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AS PART OF THAT FORM AN IMPACT STATEMENT. THIS WOULD BE A WAY TO DEMONSTRATE THAT YOU HAVE CONSIDERED, UM, YOU KNOW, THE STAFF TIME THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED, THE COST AND A BUDGET. UM, AND, UM, A YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ALSO CONSIDERING AROUND THE TIMING OF EXISTING PROJECTS. UH, NEXT SLIDE. AGAIN, THE COLLABORATION THAT I'M WOULD LIKE TO SEE, THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE IS, UM, IF YOU ARE GOING TO PROPOSE SOMETHING, UM, TO BE TALKED ABOUT AS PART OF AN AGENDA, UM, I, I ACTUALLY, UH, FIND IT CURIOUS THAT TO DATE IT DOESN'T APPEAR THAT THERE IS A LOT OF COLLABORATION AHEAD OF INTRODUCING THE 1 0 5 REQUEST. SO I ACTUALLY THINK, UM, WE SHOULD BE SPEAKING TO AT LEAST ONE OTHER PERSON, UH, AND, AND TO GAIN BROADER SUPPORT. UH, I'M CALLING THIS PERHAPS A CO-SPONSORSHIP. SO AGAIN, ON THIS FORM THAT WOULD BE SUBMITTED, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A BOX ON THERE THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, ARE YOU, ARE YOU WORKING WITH ANOTHER COUNCIL MEMBER ON THIS IDEA? HAVE YOU SPOKEN WITH THE MAYOR? AND IT'S A CHECKBOX. UM, AND AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, UM, A RECOMMENDATION, RIGHT? IF, IF YOU DIDN'T, IT'S OKAY. YOU CAN SAY NO, BUT AT LEAST IT, IT IS A WAY TO MAYBE ENCOURAGE FURTHER COLLABORATION. UM, AND THEN IF IT'S AN URGENT MATTER, THEN, UM, I, I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE SIGNIFICANT CONSEQUENCES, UM, THAT WOULD, WOULD APPEAR IF, IF IN FACT, UM, THE URGENCY ISN'T ADDRESSED. SO, UM, THE SECOND, THE SECOND PIECE OF THIS WOULD BE THIS CONSIDERATION OF RESOURCES. SO THAT'S ANOTHER TROUBLE WITH THIS POLICY RIGHT NOW IS THAT, UM, I HAVE HEARD FROM STAFF MEMBERS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, 1 0 5 REQUESTS DO END UP DERAILING MAYBE SOME OF THE PLANS THAT ARE, UM, THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, STAFF IS [02:10:01] EXPECTING TO WORK ON, BUT NOW THEY HAVE TO REMOVE TIME AWAY FROM THAT TO WORK ON SOMETHING THAT IS BEING PROPOSED. SO, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE A, UH, PRIORITY ALIGNMENT EVALUATION OF A SUBMITTED 1 0 5 REQUEST. SO WHEN THE 1 0 5 REQUEST FORM IS FILLED OUT, THEN THIS WOULD BE, UM, WOULD GO THROUGH A PRIORITY ALIGNMENT EVALUATION. AND I AM SUGGESTING THAT THIS IS COMPLETED BY THE CITY MANAGER AND THE MAYOR IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE MAYOR. AND WHAT THIS EVALUATION WOULD DO IS, AGAIN, A CHECKBOX ON THE FORM THAT, UM, TO CONFIRM THAT THERE IS ALIGNMENT WITH THE CITY'S STRATEGIC PLAN AND THE COUNCIL'S ADOPTED GOALS. UM, THAT, UM, THERE HAS BEEN, UM, AN ASSESSMENT DONE AS FAR AS, UM, AN IMPACT TO HIGH PRIORITY ISSUES OR, OR HOW THIS NEW, UM, PROPOSAL, UH, IS GOING TO IMPACT HIGH PRIORITY ISSUES SUCH AS FINANCIAL STABILITY, PUBLIC SAFETY, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UM, AND THEN, UM, THOUGHTFUL TIMING AROUND ONGOING CITY INITIATIVES. AGAIN, THAT'S WITH THE AIM TO HELP, UM, SORT OF THE, WHAT I MENTIONED IS HAVING STAFF TAKE TIME AND RESOURCES AWAY FROM SOMETHING THAT IS ONGOING AND EXPECTED, BUT NOW WE HAVE TO MAKE ROOM FOR THE 1 0 5. SO AGAIN, THIS IS ALL, UM, INFORMATION I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AHEAD OF, UM, SEEING THE AGENDA ITEM ON THE AGENDA. RIGHT? UM, AND, AND I WOULD LIKE US TO CONSIDER CAPPING THE NUMBER OF ONE OH FIVES PER COUNCIL MEMBER TO TWO ONGOING PROJECTS AT A TIME. I THINK, UM, FOR ONE, YOU KNOW, YEAH, WE ARE PART-TIMERS HERE AND YEAH, WE NOW DO HAVE THE LUXURY OF HAVING, UH, FOLKS WITHIN OUR DISTRICT OFFICES THAT CAN HELP US. BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE SHOULD BE A LIMIT TO THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT YOU'RE CREATING, RIGHT? UH, I'M SUGGESTING TO MAYBE SLOW DOWN A LITTLE BIT, HAVE IT BE TWO AT A TIME, YOU KNOW, ONCE YOU DO COMPLETE THE TWO PROJECTS THAT YOU HAVE SUGGESTED, AND NOW YOU CAN MOVE ON TO ANOTHER ONE, RIGHT? THAT WAY, UM, IF ALL OF US HAVE TWO PROJECTS ONGOING AT A TIME, THAT'S A TOTAL OF EIGHT, UM, ALL AT ONCE, THAT THAT'S HARD. THAT'S DIFFICULT. SO, UM, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S IF WE'RE MAXIMIZING THIS OPTION, BUT I'M SUGGESTING A CAP. UM, AND OH, AGAIN, CONSIDERATION OF RESOURCES. THERE'S THIS OTHER IDEA I HAD THAT IF YOU ARE PROPOSING A SIGNIFICANT PROJECT, AND WE WOULD HAVE TO DEFINE WHAT SIGNIFICANT PROJECT MEANS, BUT, UM, THERE WOULD BE A MANDATORY COST BENEFIT AND STAFF TIME ANALYSIS, UH, THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED AS PART OF YOUR SUBMISSION FOR YOUR PROPOSED 1 0 5. UM, AND I THINK THAT AGAIN, FORCES THE ISSUE OF THINKING THROUGH THE IDEA AND NOT, UM, CREATING AN IDEA AND THEN TOSSING IT TO STAFF TO DEVELOP THE IDEA, RIGHT? I THINK THE OWNER, THE, THE, THE ONUS WOULD BE ON THE INDIVIDUAL THAT IS PROPOSING, UM, SOMETHING NEW, UH, TO ACTUALLY, AND IT HAS A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT TO ACTUALLY UNDERGO THE MANDATORY COST BENEFIT AND STAFF TIME ANALYSIS. NOW, I RECOGNIZE THAT NOT ALL 1 0 5 REQUESTS HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS INTENSIVE STUDY, RIGHT? I THINK THAT IT IS APPROPRIATE FOR SOME REQUESTS THAT TO, TO JUST PROCEED AS WE RECEIVE THEM RIGHT NOW. AND THAT'S FINE. I'M NOT SAYING THAT YOU CAN'T DO IT THE WAY WE HAVE BEEN DOING IT ALL ALONG. I'M SAYING WE CAN CONTINUE TO USE THE CURRENT METHOD OF PRESENTING 1 0 5 REQUESTS FOR IDEAS THAT DON'T REQUIRE EXTENSIVE WORK. AND I'VE CITED TO, UM, FOR, IN THE EXAMPLE OF UPDATING THE ORDINANCE TO EXPAND THE, UM, OPERATING HOURS FOR COMMERCIAL CANNABIS OPERATIONS, IT, SEE, MY PERCEPTION WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE WORK THAT WAS NEEDED IN ORDER TO MAKE THAT CHANGE ONTO THE ORDINANCE WASN'T EXTENSIVE, I MEAN, BY STAFF. UM, AND SO THAT ONE WOULDN'T REQUIRE ALL OF THIS, ALL OF THESE FULLY FORMED IDEAS, SUGGESTIONS THAT I JUST COVERED. ANOTHER ONE WOULD BE, UH, THE ONE FOR INCREASING, UH, PERMISSIBLE LOT SIZES FOR, UM, HAVING CHICKENS IN YOUR BACKYARD. AGAIN, THAT IT APPEARS TO ME THAT THE WORK TO UPDATE THAT ORDINANCE ISN'T, UM, EXTENSIVE AND ISN'T, YOU KNOW, REQUIRING STAFF TO, YOU KNOW, DROP EVERYTHING AND THEN WORK ON THIS AND TRY AND FIGURE IT OUT. SO, SO THAT THOSE IDEAS, THOSE TYPES OF IDEAS ARE FINE TO PROCEED WITH THE 1 0 5 POLICY WE HAVE IN PLACE. BUT SOMETHING MORE EXTENSIVE, UH, I'M SUGGESTING DOES COME IN WITH A WHOLE LOT MORE WORK, UH, ON THE UPFRONT END. AND THEN LASTLY, OH, WAIT, HOLD ON. I MISSED ONE. THE INCENTIVE. SO THERE'S GOTTA BE AN INCENTIVE FOR ALL OF THIS WORK, RIGHT? THE, THIS IS, I THINK, THE PART THAT I, I DO NEED SOME, UM, IDEAS FROM MY STAFF, FROM MY, [02:15:01] UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS. UM, AN INCENTIVE FOR GOING THROUGH THE WORK OF A FULLY FORMED IDEA WOULD GAIN EITHER THE 1 0 5 REQUEST IS PLACED UNDER CONSENT CALENDAR, UH, AND THEN THERE'S NOTICE, HOPEFULLY THERE'S, IT DOESN'T GET PULLED, MAYBE IT DOES, BUT YOU KNOW, IT JUST FACILITATES THE APPROVAL OF THE 1 0 5 REQUEST, BECAUSE WE HAVE THE INFORMATION ON HAND. WE HAVE ALL STUDIED IT. HOPEFULLY THERE IS ANOTHER COUNCIL MEMBER OR THE MAYOR THAT IS, UM, CO-SPONSORING THE IDEA. AND SO THERE'S BROADER SUPPORT FOR IT. SO THAT WOULD BE THE INCENTIVE FOR DOING THIS WORK IS, UM, IT PERHAPS GETS APPROVED A LITTLE EASIER. ANOTHER OPTION WOULD BE, IF YOU'VE DONE ALL THE WORK WE'VE SEEN WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, WE WOULD MOVE DIRECTLY INTO, UH, TALKING ABOUT THE IDEA, UH, NO LONGER JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, SPENDING THE ONE TIME, UM, STRICTLY DISCUSSING THE MERITS, BUT, YOU KNOW, NOT STICKING TO DISCUSSING THE MERITS, UM, AND THEN WAITING ANOTHER TWO OR ANOTHER TWO WEEKS TO ACTUALLY GET TO THIS, TALKING ABOUT IT. I'M SAYING LET'S ELIMINATE THAT IF YOU GO THROUGH THE WORK OF A FULLY FORMED IDEA. UM, SO THOSE ARE OPTIONS. AND THEN THE LAST PART WOULD BE THAT ISSUE WITH TALKING ABOUT IT BEFORE WE ARE SUPPOSED TO TALK ABOUT IT. SO IT'S, UM, IT'S ACTUALLY THE EVALUATION OF THE MERITS. AND I HAVE PROPOSED THREE OPTIONS SO THAT WE CAN ELIMINATE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, TIME CONSUMING PIECE. UM, THAT IS ACTUALLY, THAT GOES AGAINST THE CURRENT POLICY, RIGHT? UH, I AM SUGGESTING EITHER WE, UH, HOLD QUARTERLY SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETINGS WHERE THE COUNCIL GETS TOGETHER AND TALKS ABOUT THE 1 0 5 REQUESTS, UM, AND THEN DECIDE WHAT IS GONNA GET PLACED ON THE AGENDA FOR CONSIDERATION. OR WE CAN EXPLORE THE FORMATION OF A, AN EVALUATION COMMITTEE THAT WOULD CONSIDER THESE REQUESTS. SO THIS WOULD BE PERHAPS A LITTLE BIT QUICKER. UH, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR THAT QUARTERLY SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING TO CONSIDER 1 0 5 REQUESTS. UM, IF IT'S AN EVALUATION COMMITTEE THAT IS REVIEWING IT AND DISCUSSING THE MERITS FOR PLACING IT ON AN AGENDA, THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER WAY TO AVOID THE TIME THAT WE SPEND, YOU KNOW, UH, REVIEWING THE INTRODUCTION OF THE ONE OH FIVES. AND THEN THE THIRD OPTION WOULD BE, LET'S STICK WITH THE PRESENT, UH, UM, WAY THAT WE DO IT, WHICH IS SOMEBODY SUBMITS A FORM TO REQUEST A 1 0 5, YOU KNOW, TO CONSIDER, UH, UH, A PROPOSAL VIA THE 1 0 5 REQUEST THAT GETS PUT ON THE AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION OF THE MERITS ONLY. UM, AND THEN WE ACTUALLY ENFORCE STICKING TO ONLY TALKING ABOUT THE MERITS THAT WOULD BE, UH, ACHIEVABLE BY LIMITING THE DISCUSSION TO ONE MINUTE, UH, PER COUNCIL MEMBER. UM, AND THEN IF WE ARE, I MEAN, WE'D HAVE TO ALLOW PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT THEN AGAIN, WE WOULD ALSO REQUEST THAT THE PUBLIC STICK TO ONE MINUTE DISCUSSION, UH, ON, ON THE MERIT. AND THEN OF COURSE, IF THAT, ONCE WE TALK ABOUT THE MERITS AND THEN IT GETS APPROVED, THEN IT GOES ON TO THE NEXT AGENDA, RIGHT? OR ONTO THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING, WHERE THEN WE DO HAVE THE ACTUAL DISCUSSION AND CONSIDER THE ITEMS. SO THOSE ARE MY SUGGESTIONS. I'M OPEN TO ANYTHING THAT, UM, COUNCIL MEMBERS WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON. I REALIZE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS MY, THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT I WANNA SEE CHANGED, BUT PERHAPS NOT. EVERYBODY WANTS TO SEE THIS CHANGED. AND SO THE NEXT STEPS WOULD BE TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION HERE ABOUT WHAT IS A GO, WHAT IS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE TOSS IT OUT THE WINDOW. UM, AND THEN, UH, I WOULD WORK WITH OUR CITY CLERK AND OUR CITY CLERK'S OFFICE TO COME BACK WITH A RED LINE VERSION OF THE ACTUAL POLICY, UH, FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION AND IMPLEMENTATION. THANK YOU, MAYOR. ALRIGHT. UH, WE HAVE ONE PUBLIC SPEAKER ON THIS ITEM. EDWIN NETO. MAN, I MUST BE NERDY BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS EXCITING, . YEAH. YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS A GREAT IDEA, BUT LET ME FIRST START OFF, UM, I WANTED TO SAY THAT, UM, I HEARD WHAT YOU GUYS SAID ABOUT YOUR EXPENDITURE REPORT, AND I'M NOT FINISHED WITH IT. I'M GONNA MAKE FURTHER COMMENTS. , YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T, REGARDING THE SALARY AND YOUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS, OKAY, LET ME GET TO IT. UM, WHAT I WANT TO TELL YOU IS THIS IS, UH, MANY TIMES I'VE BEEN HERE AS A CITIZEN, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU COME UP WITH THESE IDEAS TO TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, THERE'S JUST THINGS THAT, THAT COME OUR RED HERRINGS IN, IN, IN THE, AND IT JUST FESTERS WITH POLITICAL DISCUSSIONS THAT ARE NECESSARY. I THINK LUCY'S THING, LUCY'S SUGGESTIONS TO THIS IS LOGICAL, METHODICAL, AND IT TAKES A LOT OF THE TENSION THAT YOU ALL HAVE IN DISCUSSING THESE ISSUES OUT OF THERE. YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY ONCE TOLD ME A LONG TIME AGO, IT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE. IT'S NEVER ASK A QUESTION UNLESS YOU KNOW THE ANSWER. THIS IS WHAT [02:20:01] THIS DOES. YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE COMING UP WITH A SUGGESTION, THINK ABOUT IT. PUT SOME THOUGHT INTO IT BEFORE YOU THROW IT OUT THERE AND GET PEOPLE TO WORK ON THIS. YOU KNOW, UM, THE, I LIKE THE, SPECIFICALLY THE IDEA OF A PRIORITY ALIGNMENT EVALUATIONS. THIS IS A MANAGEMENT TOOL. THIS IS WHAT YOU REALLY NEED. THIS IS A RISK ASSESSMENT BEFORE OF THE ITEMS YOU'RE BRINGING FORTH AND SEEING IF IT'S WORTHY OF DISCUSSION AND PUTTING SOME EFFORT INTO. AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE NOT, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE MISSING RIGHT NOW. SO, WHAT I WOULD TELL YOU, IT, UH, IT HAS THE ARGUMENTS OF A, OF AUDIT FINDINGS IN TERMS OF A, A CONDITION, A CAUSE AND EFFECT, A CRITERIA. AND THOSE ARE THE THINGS YOU NEED TO THINK ABOUT AS YOU, UH, DESIGN OR, OR PROPOSE. THESE ARE AREAS. SO I THINK THIS IS A GREAT IDEA. UM, SO, UM, PUT SOME THOUGHT INTO IT, AND I THINK THIS IS GONNA SAVE YOU A LOT OF TIME AND A LOT OF TENSION AND A LOT OF EFFORT, AND MAKE THINGS JUST MORE EFFECTIVE, MOST POSITIVE. YOU'VE BEEN IN A LONG TIME, ED . ALRIGHT, UH, LOOK INTO COUNCIL NOW. THAT'S ALL THE, ALL THE SPEAKERS WE HAVE ON THIS ITEM. UH, REMEMBER BUSH? UH, YEAH. WELL, SO FIRST OF ALL, I, I DO WANNA GIVE A HEARTFELT COMMENT TO MY COLLEAGUE, COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, MOLINA FOR THE POWERPOINT AND ALL OF THE DETAIL AND WORK THAT YOU PUT INTO THIS, BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF THOUGHT AND EFFORT PUT INTO THIS. SO I REALLY DO THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THE EFFORT. AND, UM, AND SO I'M NOT GOING TO LIE, I WAS KIND, I WAS VERY, I'M VERY STILL VERY, UH, CAUTIOUS ABOUT THIS BECAUSE, UM, BECAUSE I'M, I'M, I, I, I THINK IT'S, ME AND JOSE ARE THE ONES THAT USE THIS THE MOST, AND I'LL SPEAK FOR MYSELF. AND THIS IS A PROCESS THAT A LONG TIME, IT WAS VERY, UH, WILLY-NILLY, AND IT WAS JUST THE NEXT, THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING THAT YOU COULD PLACE ON, UH, AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA. SO THAT'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, REFINED, UH, OVER THE YEARS. AND NOW THERE'S THIS 1 0 5, UM, UH, POLICY WHERE IT AT LEAST, IT, IT, I I THINK IT, IT, IT HELPED CONTROL THINGS A LOT, A LOT MORE OR MADE IT MORE MANAGEABLE. UM, BUT I, IN THE, UM, I, I, I WORRIED, AND I DO WORRY THAT THIS IS REALLY COMPLEX, UM, THAT WE COULD JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, NO, TO THE, TO OUR, OUR REQUESTS. I KNOW RECENTLY, LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU MENTIONED THAT THE CANNABIS EXPANDED HOURS, UM, I ALSO BROUGHT FORWARD THE ETHICS. UM, AND SO I, AND I REALLY TRIED TO PUT IN THE WORK TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE WERE GOOD PROPOSALS. AND I, AND I JUST DON'T WANT US FORGET THROUGH THE 1 0 5 REQUEST, WE'VE ACTUALLY MADE A LOT OF GOOD, YOU KNOW, CHANGES AND, AND FROM THE DA. SO IT'S NOT JUST TOP DOWN. IT'S NOT JUST, UH, FROM STAFF. AND THE BEST ONE, ONE OF THE BEST I CAN COME UP WITH IS THE, UM, THE REPEAL OF THE NO CRUISING ORDINANCE. THAT TOOK A LONG TIME TO GET GOING, BUT THAT WAS THROUGH A 1 0 5 REQUEST. SO, BUT I, I, I HEAR YOU, UH, CO UH, COUNCILMAN MOLINA AND I, I, I'M, I'M REALLY, UH, CAUTIOUS AND HESITANT ABOUT THIS, OR I WAS AT FIRST, BUT JUST LOOKING AT WHAT YOU'VE LAID OUT, I'M, I'M WILLING TO, TO TRY IT. I, I JUST, I'M NOT GONNA LIE, I AM, UH, MENTALLY REALLY EXHAUSTED. SO I FOUND MYSELF LIKE, LIKE TRYING TO, LIKE, WHEN I WAS TRYING TO THINK OF THIS, I, I'M, I'M STRUGGLING A BIT, BUT I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE MOVING THIS FORWARD SO THAT YOU ALL CAN, UM, UH, CAN DRAFT A, A MORE, UH, REFINED POLICY. I JUST, UM, HOPE THAT, BUT WE, WE SHOULD STILL PROPOSE THINGS HERE FROM, FROM THE DAAS. SO AS LONG AS WE'RE NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, BANNING THAT, OR REALLY, UH, UH, STOPPING THAT. 'CAUSE I, I, I THINK IF, IF, IF THERE'S AN IDEA YOU ALL DON'T LIKE THAT, WE COULD JUST SAY NO. BUT IF WE WANT TO TRY THIS NEW PROCESS, UM, I'M OPEN TO IT. UM, I JUST, I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF INPUT ON TWEAKS. I, I JUST KIND OF WANNA SEE IT, UH, PLAY OUT. BUT I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF GOOD POINTS, AND I HAVE ALSO HAD STAFF COMPLAIN AND, AND, AND TELL ME DIRECTLY THAT, THAT I'M CAUSING THEM MORE WORK. AND THAT'S, THAT'S NOT MY INTENT. SO IF THIS IS HELPFUL TO, UM, TO JUST WORKING AS A TEAM TOGETHER AND FIGURING OUT WHERE OUR PRIORITIES SHOULD BE AND WHERE OUR RESOURCES ARE, I'M, I'M, I'M OPEN TO THAT AND, AND COMPROMISE. SO, SO I'M WILLING TO, TO, TO MOVE THE, TO MOVE THIS, UH, FORWARD, UM, AND, AND COME BACK WITH MORE DISCUSSION. I I DO APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT, THAT YOU PUT INTO THIS LUCE. AND, UH, YEAH, I'M OPEN TO HEARING MY OTHER, MY, MY COLLEAGUES, UH, TO SEE WHAT YOU, WHAT IDEAS THEY HAVE ON THIS ANI. OKAY. WE'LL START THAT AGAIN. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. UM, I ECHO THE SENTIMENTS OF MY COLLEAGUE, UM, IN, UH, THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER MOLINA, IN DOING A HEAVY AMOUNT OF WORK AND, AND THOUGHT AND THE CONVERSATIONS ON THIS ISSUE. WE MAY [02:25:01] DISAGREE ON SOME THINGS, BUT I THINK THE OVERALL INTENT IS TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR CITY IS IN A, UH, KIND OF MORE STRUCTURED WAY IN ORDER TO MOVE POLICY FORWARD. SO I THINK, I THINK THAT'S GENERALLY GOOD. UH, JUST A LITTLE, UM, I GUESS BACKGROUND ON THIS. UM, WE DIDN'T HAVE A 1 0 5 REQUEST AT SOME POINT, AND, UM, AT THAT TIME, WE WOULD PROPOSE THINGS AT THE END OF THE AGENDA IF IT GOT A SECOND, THEN WE MOVED IT FORWARD FOR A FUTURE DISCUSSION. AND AS A RESULT OF THAT, WE WERE ABLE TO GET, UM, LIKE CITY CITYWIDE PLA ORDINANCE. THAT'S HOW WE WERE ABLE TO MOVE IT FORWARD. UM, AND THEN, AND THEN AT THE TIME, UH, WE HEARD FEEDBACK FROM STAFF SAYING, HEY, YOU'RE REALLY THROWING CURVE BALLS AT US, WHICH WE WERE. AND, AND THEY SAID, WE NEED A POLICY IN ORDER TO, UM, UM, FORESEE THIS SO THAT, SO THAT STAFF ISN'T JUST, UH, UH, THROWN OFF BY NEW REQUEST FROM THE COUNCIL. AND SO THIS 1 0 5 REQUEST WAS THEN FORMED AND CREATED, UH, WHICH REQUIRED A MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL, UM, IN ORDER TO GET AN ITEM FOR FUTURE DISCUSSION, RIGHT? SO IT, IT HAS BEEN A PROCESS TO GET HERE. UM, AND I DO, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, AS ONE, AS SOMEBODY THAT USES IT THE MOST. UH, THERE'S A LITTLE CONTEXT TO THAT AS WELL, BECAUSE I DO LIKE TO BE VERY BUSY AND, AND IN ISSUES. AND LAST YEAR WHEN WE BROUGHT UP THE ISSUE OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS, WHICH HAS BEEN AN ISSUE IN, IN MY DISTRICT, I, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOURS, BUT IT HAS BEEN AN ISSUE IN MINE, THE THOUGHT WAS, WELL, WE SHOULD BRING IT BACK AS A 1 0 5 REQUEST IN ORDER TO HAVE A ROBUST DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL. AND, AND WE DID. AND SO, AND SO COUNCIL DECIDED TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS, WHICH IS WHY WE'VE DECIDED TO MOVE THE POLICY FORWARD. SO I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO, UM, RECOGNIZE THAT THERE HAVE BEEN A QUITE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF POLICIES THAT HAVE BEEN, UH, GONE THROUGH THIS PROCESS. UM, I MEAN, WE MENTIONED, UH, THE REPEAL OF THE NO CRUISING ORDINANCE, A CITYWIDE PLA, THE OWN NATIONAL CITY PROGRAM, SHORT TERM RENTALS, WHICH IS STILL ONGOING. THE LEGAL DEFENSE FUND, WHICH IS STILL ONGOING. YEAH, THE, THE HOME OWNERSHIP RIGHT OWN NATIONAL CITY TREE PLANTING. WE RECEIVED A PRESENTATION FROM STAFF ON THIS AS WELL. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE ARE GONNA BE, UH, PLANTING, UH, YOU KNOW, WELL OVER 50 TREES IN OUR DISTRICT IN THE COMING MONTH AS A RESULT. SO I THINK, I THINK WE HAVE TO, UM, BE COGNIZANT OF, UM, AND MAYBE GIVE US THE FREEDOM TO WORK ON ISSUES WITHIN OUR OWN DISTRICTS AS WELL. AND, AND SO HOW DO WE AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, RIGHT, PLACE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA, UM, THAT WE WANT CITY STAFF TO WORK ON, AND WE WANT THESE PROJECTS TO LIVE WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION. UM, SO, SO I'M WILLING TO, I MEAN, I'M OPEN AND WILLING TO, TO COMPROMISE, BUT I, I ALSO THINK THAT, I MEAN, MAYBE WE COULD JUST VOTE NO ON ISSUES, AND THAT'S OKAY. I THINK, I THINK WE VOTED NO ON, ON, YOU KNOW, A ITEM THAT I BROUGHT FORWARD A COUPLE WEEKS AGO. UM, I THINK IT'S OKAY TO VOTE NO ON ISSUES AND, AND, UM, UH, THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE ISSUES THAT WERE BROUGHT UP IN THE PRESENTATION, YOU KNOW, MANY OF THEM WOULD BE JUST NON-ISSUES ALTOGETHER BECAUSE STAFF WOULDN'T BE GIVEN A DIRECTIVE BY COUNCIL TO WORK ON, ON PARTICULAR ITEMS. I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING CO-SPONSORS. SO IF THERE'S TWO INDIVIDUALS TO ACTUALLY PLACE AN ITEM ON, I THINK THAT'S GOOD, RIGHT? CO-AUTHOR. YEAH, CO-AUTHOR. UM, SO, SO I, I THINK I'M, I'M A LITTLE FLEXIBLE, BUT I ALSO AM HESITANT BECAUSE, UH, I REALIZE THAT SOME ISSUES IN EACH PARTICULAR DISTRICT MAY BE MORE IMPACTFUL THAN OTHERS. AND I THINK, UH, LIMITING US ON WHAT WE CAN DO TO ADDRESS THESE PUBLIC ISSUES WOULD BE HINDERING OURSELVES BECAUSE WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO WORK ON THOSE ISSUES, RIGHT? SO, SO, YOU KNOW, IF A CONSTITUENT COMES AND TELLS ME I'M SICK OF THIS HOME, WHICH IS A SHORT-TERM RENTAL, YOU NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, THEN WE SHOULD PROBABLY DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, RIGHT? AND, AND SO, UH, I KNOW WE'RE WORKING IN MULTIPLE ANGLES, BUT WE, WE SHOULD NOT BE LIMITING OURSELVES, UH, TO THE POINT WHERE WE CANNOT BE, UM, ADDRESSING ISSUES THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY. SO, THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, MY FIRST YEAR, UM, I SAW THIS 1 0 5 POLICY, 'CAUSE I WAS STUDYING ALL THE POLICY, AND I WALK INTO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND I SAY, I ASK HIM, WHAT IS THIS? YOU KNOW, I MEAN, REALLY 1 0 5 IS OUT OF ORDER WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT ROBERT'S RULE OF ORDER, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I'M IN AS, UM, EXPERIENCE IN PRESIDING MEETINGS, AND I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW THAT MR. MAYOR, 'CAUSE YOU'VE BEEN HERE TOO FOR A LONG TIME, UM, FOR ME, PRESIDING, UM, MEETINGS IN OTHER ORGANIZATIONS AND, UM, AND, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN LEADERSHIP, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THAT WAS MY QUESTION. BUT THEN, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, YOU JUST ANSWERED THAT, UM, BECAUSE OF, UM, [02:30:01] YOU KNOW, I MEAN THINGS THAT YOU CAN, YOU, YOU CANNOT JUST ARBITRARILY PUT ON THE AGENDA ITEM. THE CITY MANAGER SAID, BECAUSE THEN, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THE, THE PREVIOUS LEADERSHIP CANNOT AGREE ON WHAT TO BE PUT IN THE AGENDA. SO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I, I, THIS IS LIKE A COMPROMISE THAT HAPPENED, UM, AT THE, DURING THE PREVIOUS LEADERSHIP. AND I APPRECIATE THE, UH, THE METHODOLOGY PROCESS. UM, UH, I ALSO WANNA BE, UM, UM, CONSCIOUS ABOUT, BE CAREFUL WHAT WE ASK, BECAUSE THEN IT'S GONNA BITE US. UM, SO I THINK TO BE MORE, UM, TO BE MORE PRUDENT IN MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS, UM, WITH THIS POLICY, UM, I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, A CO-AUTHOR WOULD BE GOOD. UM, YOU MEAN, I THINK WE HAVE TO MOVE, UH, AN ITEM THAT WE FEEL IS IMPORTANT, UM, IN OUR DISTRICT AS WE ARE OFFICIALLY DISTRICTED. AND ALSO, UH, AS A, AS A, A CITY AS A WHOLE. UM, I JUST WANTED THIS TO BE MORE, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, MAYBE JUST LIKE YOU SAID, A ONE PAGER THAT WE CAN SAY, OKAY, 1, 2, 3, IT DOESN'T FIT THERE. AND, AND IT'S OKAY TO VOTE NO. IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WHEN WE VOTE NO TO AN AGENDA ITEM OR TO AN OPINION, OR TO YOUR, TO YOUR, UM, UM, REASON THAT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE DON'T LIKE YOU. IT'S JUST THAT IN, AT THAT TIME, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, MY, MY, UH, OBSERVATION IS IT'S NOT GOOD FOR MY DISTRICT OR THE ENTIRE CITY. AND IT'S OKAY. IT'S OKAY TO DISAGREE. IT'S OKAY NOT TO AGREE SOMETIMES, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT LEADERS DO, RIGHT? AND SO I THINK IF WE CAN, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, STREAMLINE THIS, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER AND, AND DO THE PROCESS THAT IS MORE, UM, REALLY OBJECTIVE AND NOT POLITICIZED. 'CAUSE SOMETIMES AT FIVE O'CLOCK, UH, ON A TUESDAY, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, YOU SAY, OH, IS THERE A 1 0 5? I HAVEN'T USED IT BECAUSE I STILL DON'T BELIEVE IN IT. I HAVEN'T. AND THIS IS, I'M GOING ON MY THIRD YEAR AND I JUST, I JUST, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, MAKE THE CITY MANAGER AND OUR CITY ATTORNEY TURN BLACK AND BLUE BEFORE THEN I SEE THE AGENDA IN THE ITEM. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S WHAT YOU BELIEVE IN. IT'S WHAT YOU WORK WITH. IT'S THE PASSION THAT'S THERE TO SERVE OUR PEOPLE. THAT IS MY, THAT IS MY, UM, MY, MY, UH, MY PRIORITY. SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, I'M STREAMLINING THIS, UH, HAVING A CO-AUTHOR OF, OF WHICHEVER PROJECT OR WHICHEVER ITEM THAT AUTHOR WOULD WANNA PUT FORWARD IN THE 1 0 5. UM, 'CAUSE LET'S NOT MAKE IT ONES, LET'S NOT MAKE IT POLITICAL. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. CAN I RESPOND? UH, THANK YOU. I, YOU KNOW, I, I DO APPRECIATE, UH, IT SORT OF FEELS LIKE, UM, WE CAN, WE ARE GONNA MOVE FORWARD WITH AMENDING THE POLICY. I'M HAPPY TO BRING BACK, YOU KNOW, RED LINES THAT THEN WE CAN ALSO BEGIN TO PICK APART. UM, REAL QUICK, I DO AGREE THAT YES, IT IS OKAY TO SAY NO. UM, AND I'M NOT, I, I, I AM TRYING TO BE OBJECTIVE, BUT THE, THE THING THAT I DON'T, ONE OF THE THINGS I GUESS I SHOULD HAVE PUT IT ON ISSUES TO SOLVE IS THE ABUSE TO STAFF. SO, VITAS, I JUST HEARD YOU SAY, YOU KNOW, BLACK AND BLUE, THE CITY ATTORNEY. THE CITY MANAGER, I HOPE THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, LET'S NOT BE ABUSING, UH, PEOPLE IN BLACK AND BLUE, MY WORD. 'CAUSE I'M IN THEIR OFFICES AND ASKING THEM, WHEN IS THIS GONNA BE THERE? WHEN IS IT GONNA BE THERE? THE THING I WANNA, THE, THE OTHER THING, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT CAME TO MIND AS YOU WERE PRESENTING YOUR, YOUR IDEA, YES, IT IS OKAY TO SAY NO, BUT TO MY RECOLLECTION, THE TIMES THAT IT HAS COME THAT A 1 0 5 POLICY ENDS UP BEING VOTED DOWN HAS BEEN AFTER AN HOUR OF DISCUSSION AND AN HOUR OF PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU KNOW, I'M BEING FACETIOUS HERE. MY FAULT, YES, I'M BEING FACETIOUS HERE, BUT THAT IS EXACTLY THE POINT THAT I AM TRYING TO ADDRESS HERE. AND IT IS MY BELIEF THAT, THAT IS ABUSIVE TO OUR STAFF TO KEEP THEM HERE THIS LATE AT NIGHT FOR THESE EXTENSIVE HOURS, FOR ULTIMATELY A TWO HOUR DISCUSSION RESULTING IN A NO VOTE. THAT'S ABSURD TO ME. WE HAVE TO FIX THAT. SO YEAH, IF IT IS A NO VOTE, GO AHEAD AND, YOU KNOW, DON'T FORM A FULLY FORMED OPINION. DON'T SELL US ON YOUR OPINION, YOU KNOW, SUBMIT THE EX VIA THE EXISTING WAY. WE WILL MAINTAIN, UH, ENFORCING, SPEAKING ABOUT THE ME, THE, THE, THE, UM, THE MERITS. UM, NOT, YOU KNOW, ENFORCING EVERYBODY TO SPEAK FOR ONE MINUTE ALONE, UM, AND THEN GET TO THE KNOW A HELL OF A LOT QUICKER AND NOT ABUSE OUR STAFF BY KEEPING THEM HERE PAST MIDNIGHT ON SOMETHING THAT IS ULTIMATELY GONNA BE A NO. NOW, IF YOU DON'T WANT YOUR IDEA TO BE VOTED ON AS A NO, THEN DO THE WORK AND PRESENT US [02:35:01] A FULLY FORMED IDEA AND SELL IT TO US IN THE BEST WAY POSSIBLE. AND LET'S GET TO, YES. AND THEN AGAIN, THAT'S WITH MINIMAL ABUSE TO OUR STAFF. THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET TO. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. UM, YEAH, YOU KNOW, OVERALL I LIKE THE IDEA. I THINK THE ONLY, MY ONLY CONCERNS ARE IT'S GETTING KIND OF COMPLICATED. WELL SEE. OKAY, I HEAR YOU. I HEAR, OKAY. IT, IT, YOU KNOW, IF, IF I LOOK AT ALL THOSE THINGS TOGETHER, EACH INDIVIDUAL ONE LOOKS GOOD, BUT YOU LOOK 'EM ALL TOGETHER, TWO THINGS. UH, THERE'S SOME OF THE AREAS THERE THAT ARE OBJECTIVE AND SOME OF 'EM THAT ARE SUBJECTIVE, AND IT REALLY NEED TO BE AS OBJECTIVE AS POSSIBLE AND, YOU KNOW, FOR THEIR ANSWERS AND NOT SO MUCH SUBJECTIVE. UH, AND THEN, AND I SAY THE OTHER THING, IT'S, IT'S GETTING, IT'S GETTING A LITTLE COMPLICATED. WE DON'T WANT IT. WE DON'T WANT IT. SO IT'S SO EASY THAT WE JUST RUN IN AT FIVE O'CLOCK ON, ON THE TUESDAY, AND HERE IT'S FIVE O'CLOCK TUESDAY, I, I MADE IT IN THE DEADLINE. AND HERE'S, HERE'S MY ONE SENTENCE, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T WANT, YOU WANT IT. SO SOME THOUGHT GOES INTO IT, AND I TOTALLY AGREE. UH, UM, AND, AND THAT YOU DESCRIBED SOME OF, CERTAINLY SOME OF THESE, UH, SOME OF THESE AREAS. UM, AND SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE THOUGHT GOES INTO IT. THE LAST THING, YOU KNOW, IF IT COMES BEFORE US AND, AND WE GOT NO IDEA WHAT IT IS, AND, YOU KNOW, AND EVEN THE PERSON PRESENTING IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY KIND, YOU KNOW, DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY ON IT, AND WE DON'T KNOW, WELL, WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL VOTE ON IT SO THAT WE CAN FIND OUT WHAT IT'S ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IN A COUPLE WEEKS. AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT, THAT DOESN'T MAKE GOOD SENSE. WE, WE, WE, IT NEEDS TO BE MORE THAN, UM, BECAUSE BEFORE WE HAD THE 1 0 5 THERE, WE HAD FOR DECADES, I MEAN, WE HAD SOME GUIDELINES THAT WERE VERBAL GUIDELINES, GETTING THINGS ON THE AGENDA. UM, BUT THEN WE HAD ONE COUNCIL MEMBER DECIDED, WELL, THERE'S NOTHING IN WRITING. SO HE WOULD JUST GO MARCHING IN TO THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND, AND ON A WEEKLY BASIS, OKAY, I WANT THIS ON NEXT WEEK'S AGENDA, I WANT THIS ONE ON NEXT WEEK'S AGENDA. AND, AND WE HAD TO, WE HAD TO DEAL WITH THAT. SO THAT'S THE REASON KINDA THE 1 0 5 5 FINALLY DID COME UP. AND, AND THEN I SAY THE OTHER PART WAS, IT WAS BEING JUST BROUGHT UP AT THE END OF THE MEETING, OKAY, I WANT THIS ON NEXT WEEK'S AGENDA. WELL, YOU KNOW, SO WE HAD TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS TO SEE IF THERE WAS, UH, A WAY TO SHOW THAT THERE WAS A CONSENSUS TO EVEN WANNA DISCUSS IT. BUT I THINK WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS, THAT IT DOESN'T MEAN WE HAVE TO DISCUSS IT, BUT AT LEAST KNOW WHAT IT IS. AND SO, UH, I, I WOULD DEFINITELY LIKE TO SEE US MOVE AHEAD WITH THIS, BUT I WOULD THINK A LITTLE BIT MORE WORK NEEDS TO BE DONE ON IT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S SUBJECTIVE AND, OR, I'M SORRY, OBJECTIVE, THAT IT'S OBJECTIVE AND ALL, ALL THE DIFFERENT AREAS AND, AND NOT, NOT QUITE AS COMPLICATED. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YES, ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU TO MY COLLEAGUES. AND YES, UM, I, I'M HAPPY THAT I WAS ABLE TO PRESENT THESE IDEAS. ONCE, UM, I BRING IT BACK, I WILL, YOU KNOW, CLEAN IT UP AND, AND MAKE IT A LOT MORE, UM, DIGESTIBLE. AND YOU'LL SEE WHAT IT, WHAT THE FORM WILL END UP LOOKING LIKE, UH, SO THAT IT IS A BIT MORE EXPLAINED AND, AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S MORE CON CONCEPTUALIZED. THANK YOU. THROUGH THE CHAIR. YES. QUESTION TO CM, HOW MANY ONE OH FIVES ARE STANDING RIGHT NOW OR ARE BEING PUT ON THE SIDE? 2, 2, 2. THE ETHICS AND THE CHICKEN, RIGHT? WELL, NO THREE. THE ETHICS, THE CHICKEN, AND THEN THE LEGAL CREATION THING. YEAH. YEAH. THE, UH, LEGAL REPRESENTATION IS THE OTHER ONE. THAT'S FINE. THAT'S THREE. THERE IS, OKAY. THREE. OKAY. WELL, US, USUALLY IT'S THE CALL OF THE PRESIDING OFFICER. WHAT GOES TO THE AGENDA ANYWAY, SO, BUT ANYWAY, THIS IS A PROCESS THAT WE CAN FOLLOW MM-HMM . UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THAT, THAT'S JUST A PRACTICE REALLY. IT, IT'S SO, UM, SO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE'LL SEE WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER MOLINA, AND, UH, IF YOU NEED ANY QUESTIONS FROM US, YOU CAN EMAIL US. UM, BUT THEN DON'T EMAIL, DON'T REPLY ALL MM-HMM . RIGHT? . SO, UM, SO WE CAN, UH, HELP, UM, PRODUCE A MORE, UH, SPECIFIC AND STREAMLINED, UH, POLICY. THANK YOU. WELL, I THINK, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, IMANI, TO YOUR POINT THEN WE CAN INDIVIDUALLY JUST EMAIL CITY CLERK'S OFFICE RIGHT? ON SOME OF OUR COMMENTS OR INPUT. IS THAT RIGHT? TANYA? MISS CITY CLERK, ARE YOU WORKING ON THIS? I'LL DEFER TO SHELLY, WHO MAY BE ON ZOOM. YES. SHELLY? YES, THAT'S FINE. THANK YOU. OKAY. REQUIRE MOTION? I, UH, NO. YEAH. OKAY. SO IT'LL, IT'LL COME BACK. RED LINE. THANK YOU, SHELLY. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UH, ANY OTHER, UH, STAFF REPORTS, CITY MANAGER? NO, I HAVE NOT. OKAY. NO OTHER STAFF REPORTS. OKAY. AND, [02:40:01] UH, WITH THAT, UH, ANY CITY MANAGER REPORT? THANK YOU. OKAY. THEN WE'LL [13. ELECTED OFFICIALS REPORT] GO WITH THE ELECTED OFFICIALS REPORT. START DOWN HERE, MS. MAYOR. SO WHAT IS THE RESULT OF THE PREVIOUS ITEM? WELL, THAT, SO THAT SHE'S GONNA SPEND MORE TIME WORKING ON IT AND THEN BRING IT, BRING IT BACK TO US AND TRY TO, TRY TO CONDENSE IT SO IT'S A LITTLE SIMPLER FORM. I SEE. AND, UH, AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING, MAKE SURE THAT ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE ON THERE WOULD BE AS OBJECTIVE AS POSSIBLE. DO WE NEED AN ACTUAL VOTE FOR THAT? I THINK WE SHOULD. A I PREFER US TO AT LEAST PROVIDE AFTER, AFTER THE, THE, UM, YOU IN THE SPECIFIC AF AFTER THAT FINAL THING. I, I'LL, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO HA TO, UH, HAVE A COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, MOLINA WORK WITH STAFF. AND BASED ON OUR DISCUSSION, UH, COME UP WITH A RED LINE POLICY TO A DATE THAT THEY STAFF AND COUNCIL MEMBER MOLINA DETERMINED CERTAIN MM-HMM . FOR REVIEW BY COUNCIL, OR TO COME BACK FOR REVIEW BY COUNCIL FOR REVIEW. YEAH. THAT'S MY, I SECOND. OKAY. DO WE HAVE A SECOND ON THAT? OH, WE DO. THE CHAIRMAN, THIS IS A DISCUSSION, NOT AN ACTION ITEM. OKAY. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. SO THIS IS JUST BASICALLY VOTING SO THAT TO, THAT IT CAN BE BROUGHT BACK IS BASICALLY WHAT IT'S OKAY. UM, THERE'S NO OTHER DISCUSSION. PLEASE VOTE. MOTION APPROVED WITH COUNCIL MEMBER YAMANI ABSTAINING. UM, OKAY. SO NEXT WE GO WITH, UH, COUNCIL COMMENTS. START DOWN HERE ON MY LEFT. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. UM, YESTERDAY, UM, THERE WAS AN EARTHQUAKE, UM, SANDY, SAN DIEGO COUNTY. HIGHLY UNUSUAL FOR US, UM, IN THE VALLEY. WE'RE USED TO THEM. UH, IT'S KIND OF THE NORM, BUT, UM, UH, IT IS ALARMING IN MANY DIFFERENT WAYS. AND, UH, I DID HEAR FEEDBACK FROM SOME OF OUR SCHOOLS. I THINK SOME ARE, UM, MORE PREPARED THAN OTHERS, BUT I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR ALL OF US TO, UM, REALIZING THAT WE HAVE A FAULT COMING THROUGH SAN DIEGO TO BE FULLY PREPARED. UM, IN THE CASE OF A FUTURE EARTHQUAKE DRILLS, UH, IN THE CASE OF A FUTURE EARTHQUAKE, AND, UH, DOING REGULAR DRILLS IS, I THINK, UH, GOING TO BE PART OF JUST OUR, UH, REGULAR LIFE AS IT IS IN OTHER PARTS OF THE STATE AND OF THE COUNTRY. SO, JUST SOMETHING TO NOTE. UM, AND JUST A, A REALLY QUICK, UM, UH, CONVERSATION. ALL POLITICS ARE LOCAL, AND I KNOW SOMETIMES WE DON'T SEE THE CORRELATION, BUT IT HAPPENS EVERY SINGLE DAY. UH, FOR SOME OF, UH, INDIVIDUALS THAT MAY NOT HAVE HEARD OF, UH, KMAR, ARMANDO ABREGO GARCIA, HE WAS A, UH, HE IS AN INDIVIDUAL, UH, SHEET METAL WORKER, HUSBAND, AND FATHER OF THREE. UM, HE WAS DEPORTED ON MARCH 15TH. UH, THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION CALLED IT AN ADMINISTRATIVE ERROR. AND, UH, HE WAS IMPRISONED WITHOUT TRIAL. UH, AND IT'S PLACED IN TERRORISM CONFINEMENT IN, UH, THE PRISON INAL SALVADOR, WHICH IS A MAXIMUM SECURITY PRISON. UH, THE SUPREME COURT ACTUALLY VOTED NINE, UH, ZERO TO HAVE THE FEDERAL ADMINISTRATION FACILITATE HIS RETURN. AND THE ADMINISTRATION SO FAR HAS REFUSED TO DO IT. AND, UH, PRESIDENT OF EL SALVADOR HAS ALSO REFUSED TO DO IT. AND SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO PAY ATTENTION TO THESE NATIONAL, UH, ISSUES BECAUSE THEY DO HAVE LOCAL IMPLICATIONS. AND WITH THE FEDERAL BUDGET, UH, HAVING EXPANDED FUNDING FOR ADDITIONAL DEPORTATION PROCEEDINGS, UH, AND BEING NATIONAL CITY, HAVING A LARGE COMMUNITY OF COLOR, UH, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO PAY ATTENTION ON HOW SOME OF THESE NATIONAL POLICIES ARE HAVING AN EFFECT ON OUR LOCAL POPULATION. UM, FOR, FOR SOME OF US THAT ARE IN RELATIONSHIP WITH PEOPLE THAT ARE UNDOCUMENTED, UH, THE FEAR IS THERE AND, UM, THEY ARE FOLLOWING THIS STORY CLOSELY BECAUSE WHAT IT WOULD MEAN IS THAT AT ANY TIME THIS ADMINISTRATION CAN PICK PEOPLE UP AND SAY IT'S AN ERROR, SHIP 'EM TO ANOTHER COUNTRY AND LEAVE THEM THERE WITHOUT ANY TRACE WHATSOEVER TO THEIR FAMILY OR COMMUNICATION. IT'S EXTRADITION WITHOUT ANY COMMUNICATION WHATSOEVER. SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO PAY ATTENTION TO THAT AS, UM, THE NATIONAL POLITICS CONTINUE TO UNFOLD. THANK YOU. THAT CAUSED THE EARTHQUAKE. WELL, POLITICAL EARTHQUAKE. SORRY. 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, IT STARTED WITH THE EARTHQUAKE AND THEN IT ENDED THERE. HUH? IT EARTHQUAKE. SO ANYWAYS, FUNNY. UM, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I'M NEXT. RIGHT? YOU BE. UM, SO APRIL 19, UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD COUNCIL MEETING, UH, PLEASE, UM, COME, I KNOW THAT, UH, CITY MANAGER AND THE DIRECTORS WHO ARE PRESENTING, UM, MR. PAUL, MR. AGUIRE AND, UM, MR. MANGANELLO, UM, AND, UM, MS. MARTA JUAREZ, UM, LOOKING FORWARD TO, UM, REPORTING TO OUR COMMUNITY, UM, WITH REGARDS TO, [02:45:01] UM, THIS, UH, THIS, UH, TOPICS ALSO, UM, WE HAVE A CLEAN CLEANUP DAY FOR DISTRICT THREE, BUT OF COURSE, UH, THE ENTIRE CITY'S INVITED THAT DAY FROM EIGHT TO NOON. THE NEIGHBORHOOD COUNCIL MEETING IS, UH, ALSO, UM, HAPPENING THAT DAY FROM 10 TO NOON. AND THEN WE HAVE OUR GROUNDBREAKING CEREMONY OF ELON PARK IMPROVEMENT PROJECT AT 1230. SO THERE WILL BE A LOT OF ACTIVITIES, THEN WE CONSOLIDATED IT THERE 'CAUSE EVERYBODY WILL BE THERE, UM, ALREADY. AND MR. NIETO SAID HE'S GONNA HELP ME WITH THE FORUM. SO THANK YOU, SIR FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, I, IN DOING THAT, UH, WE ALSO HAVE SHREDDING SERVICE. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, TODAY IS THE LAST DAY TO FILE OUR TAXES. SO I KNOW BUSINESSES HAVE THEIR OLD DOCUMENTS TO BE SHREDDED, AND SO PLEASE COME AND SHRED YOUR, YOUR OLD DOCUMENTS. SHREDDING IS GOOD. UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, FOR SAFETY REASONS. UM, HOME OUTREACH TEAM, UM, MR. CITY MANAGER, I KNOW THAT, UM, IN, IN MY DISTRICT, UH, CITYWIDE, WE ARE EXPERIENCING THAT. UM, THIS MORNING, THERE'S ANOTHER INCIDENT IN MY DISTRICT. I WAS TEXTING CHIEF, YOU AND, UH, RON, I KNOW THAT, UM, OUR HOME OUTREACH TEAM ARE DOING THEIR BEST, BUT I THINK THAT THE PD AND THE HOME OUT, OR THE HOT TEAM SHOULD, SHOULD SHAKE HANDS. SO THEN WE CAN, WE CAN, UH, TAKE CARE OF, TAKE CARE OF THIS SITUATION BETTER, UM, WITH, WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT AND WITH THE HOME OUTREACH TEAM. UM, AND WITH PD SHAKING HANDS AND MAKING SURE THAT WE TAKE CARE OF THOSE, UM, THINGS. UM, UH, UM, I CAN SEE, UM, THANK YOU AGAIN. UM, INTERIM BAT CHIEF THAT DAY FOR, UM, MAKING, YOU KNOW, MAKING THAT EDUCATION TO ME, THAT HELPS A LOT. UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO SEE THOSE THINGS. AND, UM, IT'S NICE TO DRIVE AROUND IN THAT RED, BLUE, I MEAN, RED RIG. UM, IT'S, IT'S VERY NICE, BUT, UM, HE DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO DRIVE IT. HE ALWAYS PRESS THE, UM, THE HORN. SO I, I DID NOT KNOW THAT THE HORN IS ON YOUR FOOT. SO IT'S, IT'S VERY, UH, EDUCATIONAL FOR ME. . YES. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, EVERY TIME HE TURNS IT ON, HE HUNTS THAT HORN AND, AND I GET STARTLED. UM, SO, UM, I THINK THAT, UH, COMMENT, OH, UM, THE LIBRARY THEY HAD, UH, I WAS THERE ON SATURDAY. THEY HAD THE EGG HUNT, UH, EASTER EGG HUNT, LOTS AND LOTS OF KIDS. THANK YOU, DANIELLE, FOR DOING THAT. OUR, OUR, OUR LIBRARIAN. THAT WAS FUN FOR THE KIDS. HOW MANY EGGS DID YOU FIND? OH, NO, I DIDN'T. 'CAUSE I DIDN'T WANNA COMPETE WITH THE GIRL, WITH THEIR KIDS BECAUSE, UH, YOU KNOW, BUT IT WAS SPECIFICALLY DONE. SO THEN THEY CAN REALLY VISIT THE LIBRARY, WHICH IS REALLY NICE. THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT FOR OUR KIDS. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THAT WAS JUST, UH, MY REPORT. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. OH, AM I RIGHT? THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, THANK YOU TO STAFF, THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY THAT CAME OUT AND JOINED US TONIGHT. UH, I DO WANNA MAKE, UH, ONE ANNOUNCEMENT. I, AND, UM, I HAVE JOINED THE COMMITTEE OR, OR THE BOARD FOR FACT, WHICH IS FACILITATED, UM, FACILITATED, OH, MY BRAIN ISN'T WORKING RIGHT NOW, BUT, UH, TRANSPORT. SO IT'S, UH, FOLKS THAT NEED, UM, IT'S, UH, LIKE A TAXI SERVICE, BUT THEY NEED IT IN A VAN BECAUSE THEY'RE IN A WHEELCHAIR AND THEY NEED TO GET TO A DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENT OR TO THE GROCERY STORE OR SOMETHING. UM, THE COMPANY THAT IS, THAT WORKS WITH, UH, SANDAG, UM, AND THAT ACHIEVES THIS GOAL IS CALLED FACT. AND SO NOW I WILL BE JOINING THE FIRST FACT BOARD MEETING THIS THURSDAY. JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT PUBLIC. THANK YOU. UH, ON THE, UH, UH, SO ON THE EARTH, UH, ON THE EARTHQUAKE, UH, UH, NOT TO REPEAT WHAT'S UH, BEEN SAID, BUT ONE OF THE, MY, MY TAKEAWAYS FROM THAT, FOR ME, THE ALARM SYSTEM DIDN'T REALLY WORK. IT, UH, THE, MY PHONE WENT OFF, MY EMERGENCY PHONE WENT OFF, UH, ABOUT THREE SECONDS AFTER THE SHAKING STOPPED. SO IT WAS GOOD IN THAT, OH, OKAY, IT'S VERIFICATION, IT'S AN EARTHQUAKE. BUT GIVEN THAT THE MAGNITUDE, UH, GIVEN THAT, UH, THE EPICENTER WAS SO CLOSE, IT'S JUST KIND OF A PHYSICS THING. THERE'S JUST NOT LIKE, UM, UH, THE TECHNOLOGY I, AS I UNDERSTAND, IT JUST HAS SIMPLY NOT ADVANCED TO WHERE THE, THE, THE FARTHER YOU ARE, THE BETTER THE ALARM WILL WILL BE. BUT, UH, THE, THOSE ALARMS ARE ONLY SECONDS. AND IN THIS CASE, FOR ME, IT DIDN'T WORK. I DON'T KNOW IF ANY ANYONE ELSE THEY GOT NOTICED BEFORE THE SHAKING STARTED. BUT I THINK THAT'S A GOOD, THAT'S A, UM, TO COUNCIL MEMBER RODRIGUEZ'S POINT, A REMINDER TO THAT, THAT IF, IF THERE IS SOMETHING HERE, WE, WE WE'RE PROBABLY NOT GONNA GET WARNING IF IT'S SOMETHING LIKE IN YOUR, UH, IN LIKE COACHELLA VAL VALOR, WHERE IT'S LIKE THE SAN ANDREA'S FAULT THAT WE MIGHT HAVE SOME TIME FOR THE, THE WARNING SYSTEM. BUT HERE, [02:50:01] IT DIDN'T, IT DIDN'T REALLY WORK. BUT I'M GLAD IT WASN'T, UH, IT WASN'T TOO BAD. SO, UM, BUT YEAH, THAT'S ABOUT IT. JUST WANNA THANK STAFF, UH, FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT. ALL YOUR HARD WORK. SPECIAL THANKS TO BARRY AND BEN. WE MIGHT DISAGREE AT TIMES, BUT I REALLY, FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART, APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK THAT YOU GUYS, UH, DO FOR US AND PUTTING UP WITH OUR AND MIKE CRAZINESS. SO, SO THANK YOU GUYS BOTH. AND YEAH, LET'S JUST CONTINUE. WE'VE ALL DONE SOME GREAT THINGS IN HERE. LET'S CONTINUE TO, MY LOVE LANGUAGE IS ALSO ACCOUNTABILITY, SO LET'S CONTINUE TO COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER, HOLD EACH OTHER, UH, ACCOUNTABLE HERE ON, ON THIS DIOCESE AND WITH THE ORGANIZATION AND CONTINUE TO GROW AND DO GREAT THINGS. SO THANK YOU. OKAY, GOOD. UM, OKAY. I'M GONNA MAKE, UH, A COUPLE COMMENTS. AND PART OF IT IS OVER SOME OF THE ACCUSATIONS THAT WERE MADE AT THE EARLY PART OF THE MEETING. AND SINCE I WAS CHALLENGED DURING, DURING THAT TIME TO MAKE A COMMENT AT THE END OF THE MEETING WHEN THEY KNEW ALMOST NO ONE TO BE HERE. UH, IT IS A GR GREAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S GREAT GRANDSTANDING. UM, THERE WAS THE COMMENT, UH, BY OUR CEMETERY NEIGHBORS FROM LINCOLN ACRES THAT THE, UH, UM, THAT SOMEHOW I RECEIVED BRICO DISCOUNTS OF GASOLINE AND, UH, UH, ALCOHOL. I NEVER HAD HEARD OF BRICO DISCOUNTS OR ASKING PEOPLE LIKE THAT FOR DISCOUNT. WELL, NO, I WON'T SAY THAT. I'VE NEVER HEARD OF IT BECAUSE I DID, BECAUSE, UH, THERE'S, UH, THEY KEPT WANTING TO SHOW UP DIFFERENT STUFF ABOUT TEXT MESSAGES. THERE'S A TEXT MESSAGES THEY'RE NOT SHOWING. AND THAT IS A TEXT MESSAGE BETWEEN MIKA AND THE DEVELOPER, THE BRICO WHERE SHE IS DEMANDING THAT THEY PUT IN A FORMAL LISTING, A FORMAL LETTER THAT THEY, THAT LUA, UH, LUISA AND MIKA WOULD GET A DISCOUNT OF GASOLINE AND DISCOUNT FOR ALCOHOL AND TO HAVE IT NOTARIZED. AND THAT'S ACTUALLY IN A TEXT, BUT THEY DON'T SHOW THAT BECAUSE THAT WASN'T BETWEEN THEM AND A GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL. IT WAS BETWEEN THEM AND THE DEVELOPER. THEY WERE THE ONES ASKING FOR IT. THEN SHE ACTUALLY HAD THE AUDACITY TO COME UP HERE AND ASK, LIKE, AS IF I WAS DOING THAT. I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S THE EPITOME OF HYPOCRISY. UH, AND SO, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T LET THAT GO BY AND JUST LET HAVE IT BE SAID. AND THE SAD PART IS THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HEARING IT NOW IS BASICALLY OUR STAFF AND NOT HER FOLLOWERS THAT RUN AROUND WITH HER. UH, THE SAME THING WITH THE, UH, UH, HOLDING UP THOSE DIFFERENT NICE BIG, BIG SIGNS OF TEXT MESSAGES AND THEN DRAWING CONCLUSIONS OFF OF THEM THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TEXT MESSAGE AND SAYING, HERE'S PROOF. UH, AND EVEN THE ONE THAT WAS FROM MARTIN REEDER AND CLAIMED ON THERE, HOW THEY WERE PUTTING IT ON HOLD. SO THERE IT'S NOT TO HOLD, HE DIDN'T, THE PART HE DIDN'T MENTION, IF YOU LOOKED UP AT THE TOP OF THERE, AND I WAS CLOSE ENOUGH, I COULD SEE IT. THE SUBJECT MATTER OF THE TEXT FOR MARTIN REEDER WAS APPLICATION WITHDRAWAL. HE FORGOT TO MENTION THAT PART. I MEAN, THIS IS JUST ONE BIT OF MISINFORMATION AFTER ANOTHER. AND THIS IS CONTINUING AT EVERY MEETING. AND LIKE TONIGHT WE HAD OUR FOUR O'CLOCK MEETING, UH, FOR A CLOSED SESSION. WE DIDN'T GET INTO CLOSED SESSION TILL 4 45 BECAUSE THEY HAD A WHOLE PRESENTATION OF A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE COMING UP HERE. EVEN THOUGH WE ONLY LET 'EM ONE MINUTE TO SPEAK, IT STILL TOOK US 45 MINUTES TO GET INTO THE CLOSED SESSION. AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE REA THAT'S A BIG REASON THAT WE WERE 45 MINUTES LATE GETTING OUT OF THE CLOSED SESSION AND HAD TO HOLD EVERYBODY UP AND JUST WITH A WHOLE SERIES OF NOTHING BUT LIES ONE AFTER ANOTHER. AND I'M JUST CALLING IT WHAT IT IS, BECAUSE OTHERWISE SOMEONE'S ACTUALLY GONNA BELIEVE SOME OF THIS GARBAGE THEY'RE PUTTING OUT, HATE TO HAVE TO DO IT THIS WAY, BUT WHEN THEY CONTINUALLY ARE MISUSING OUR MEETINGS AND OUR, OUR, UH, PLATFORM UP HERE TO JUST PLAY THIS, THIS, THIS CIRCUS, WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO HOLD ON AND WE HAVE TO SAY SOMETHING AT SOME POINT REAL QUICK. I WILL SAY I AGREE. AT WHAT POINT, AND SO SINCE YOU'RE GOING TO BRING THIS UP, I'LL BRING IT UP TOO. WHEN MIKA CA UH, CAME UP HERE, EVEN SAID, DON'T SAY ANYTHING. SO, BUT I'M GONNA SAY THIS PART THAT WHEN, WHEN MIKA SAID THAT SHE REFERENCED THAT, UM, THAT I WAS DISMISSIVE AND I TOLD HER THAT, UM, THAT I, I DIDN'T WANT HER TO STOP SAYING THAT. SO WHAT SHE WAS REFERRING TO, JUST FOR THE RECORD, AND I'M REALLY, I I, I TOLD HER I'M, I'M REALLY HONESTLY P****D OFF ABOUT THIS BECAUSE WHEN THEY KEEP SAYING, WHEN PEOPLE KEEP SAYING INCLUDING MIKE GEAR, THAT IT WAS PLACED ON CONSENT, THEY KEEP SAYING THAT AND IT'S DRIVING ME NUTS BECAUSE IT, THAT THAT WASN'T AN ISSUE. WE HAD A DETAILED REPORT FROM STAFF, IT WASN'T AN ISSUE. AND SO JUST FULL TRANSPARENCY, I'VE ASKED THEM ON THAT POINT TO STOP SAYING THAT BECAUSE IT'S FACTUALLY INACCURATE AND IT'S MISLEADING ON THAT POINT. OTHER POINTS I'M NOT GONNA TOUCH, BUT JUST BECAUSE SHE, UM, SAID THAT, I JUST WANT TO ANNOUNCE FOR THAT, THAT WAS THE CONVERSATION. [02:55:01] AND SO, BUT I REALLY WOULD LIKE US TO JUST MOVE PAST THIS. 'CAUSE I REALLY THINK WE BEAT THIS DEAD HORSE. WISH, WISH THEY WOULD, YOU KNOW, THAT PROJECT WAS DEAD OVER FOUR MONTHS AGO. MR. MAYOR, CAN WE FINALIZE THE MEETING? UM, YES. IS THAT ALL RIGHT? I, I PLAN IN A MINUTE, BUT JUST BUT YOU DON'T WANNA ADD ON JOSE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, STAFF AND KEEPING 'EM HERE FOREVER AND LISTENING TO US, YOU KNOW, MEAN, BUT THE PROBLEM IS THEY PUT IT ON THE RECORD, ALL RIGHT? AND IT HAS TO GO ON THE RECORD ALSO THAT THESE THINGS ARE LIES AND, AND THE WHOLE STUFF ABOUT THE BURIAL AND EVERYTHING, IT IS NOT THE WAY THAT WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED AND WHAT IS IN THE RECORD IS NOT THE WAY THEY'RE TELLING IT. AND UH, SO, BUT THEY SAY STUFF AND MAKE OUT A THOUGHT, AN ACCUSATION, AND THEN THEY GO, NOW THAT WE KNOW THAT HAPPENED, NO, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED. YOU JUST SAID IT. BUT THERE'S NO NOTHING TO BACK IT UP. IN FACT, THE ACTUAL EVIDENCE IS THE OTHER WAY AROUND. AND SO THEY WANT TO GO NOT IN A COURT, BUT THEY WANT TO GO WITH A COURT OF PUBLIC OPINION BY JUST THROWING THIS STUFF OUT. AND SO I HAVE TO DISCLAIM IT FOR THAT REASON. WITH THAT, UH, I AM GONNA GO TO OUR CITY ATTORNEY. [14. CITY ATTORNEY REPORT] ANYTHING TO REPORT OUT OF CLOSED SESSION? THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, LET'S SEE. THERE WERE TWO ITEMS, UM, THAT WERE ADDRESSED IN CLOSED SESSION. THAT'S THE, UH, PUBLIC EMPLOYEE PERFORMANCES FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY AND THE CITY MANAGER. AND THERE'S NO REPORTABLE ACTION ON EITHER OF THOSE. THERE WERE THREE ITEMS THAT INVOLVED EXISTING LITIGATION AND THOSE WILL BE PUT ON, UH, FUTURE CLOSED SESSIONS. ALRIGHT, COMPLETE SIR. WITH THAT, WE ARE ADJOURNED TO THE NEXT MEETING, WHICH IS ACTUALLY THREE WEEKS FROM TODAY. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.