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HERE.[1. CALL TO ORDER]
LIKE TO CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.THIS IS FOR THE, UH, SPECIAL, SPECIAL MEETING FOR WORKSHOP LIVE WEBCAST.
THE MEETING MAY BE VIEWED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE.
NOTICE AGENDA AND INFORMATION ON THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY'S WEBSITE INFORMS MEMBERS OF PUBLIC THAT THEY MAY SUBMIT A GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT OR A PUBLIC COMMENT ON A SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEM IN A NUMBER OF WAYS.
FIRST, WITH ONE OF THE SALMON COLORED SLIPS THAT ARE AT THE BACK OF THE CHAMBER.
THE OTHER IS BY, UH, EMAILING NO LATER THAN FOUR HOURS BEFORE THE MEETING.
ALL WRITTEN COMMENTS RECEIVED WILL BE DISTRIBUTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL PRIOR TO THE MEETING AND PUBLISHED ON THE CITY WEBSITE IF RECEIVED BY THE DEADLINE.
WITH THAT, CAN WE HAVE ROLL CALL PLEASE? THANK YOU.
ALRIGHT, WE PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
AND, UH, UH, MEMBER RODRIGUEZ, WOULD YOU LEAD US PLEASE? MARK.
I ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR HOUR.
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OKAY.THIS IS A SPECIAL MEETING AND THEREFORE WE WILL NOW HEAR PUBLIC COMMENTS ON ITEMS SPECIFIC TO THIS AGENDA.
AND, UH, HAVE WE HAVE ANY REQUESTS TO BE MADE? UH, AS FAR AS ON ZOOM? VIA ZOOM? NO, WE DO NOT, BUT WE DO HAVE THE INTERPRETER IF YOU'D LIKE HIM TO MAKE THE STATEMENT.
WITH THAT, WE DO HAVE SOME, UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS.
THESE NEED TO BE ON THE SUBJECT.
THIS THE HOME OWNERSHIP, UH, WORKSHOP.
UH, AND I AM GONNA BE RESTRICTING IT TO ONE MINUTE.
WELL, BECAUSE LOOK AT THE CLOCK.
ALRIGHT, SO WITH THAT, UH, FIRST OF ALL, UH, MALIK, UH, MALIK, UH, MIKA POLANCO BE FOLLOWED BY LUISA MCCARTHY TO BE FOLLOWED BY GEORGE CH.
MEMBERS, UM, IT JUST SEEMS TO ME THAT TONIGHT WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT, UM, AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
AND IT SEEMS TO ME THAT, UM, IT'S INAPPROPRIATE FOR US TO BE TALKING ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING WHEN YOU HAVE DISTORTED A RESIDENTIAL USE, UH, THAT COULD HAVE BEEN AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO MIXED USE.
AND I'M, UH, PROPOSING THAT YOU RECONSIDER YOUR, UH, MIXED USE TO RESIDENTIAL USE.
BRING IT BACK TO HOW IT WAS, UH, BECAUSE WE ARE IN GRAVE NEED OF, UM, RESIDENTIAL AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR OUR CITIZENS.
LOUISA MCCARTHY TO BE FOLLOWED BY GEORGE CHANG, TO BE FOLLOWED BY TED GODSHAW.
GOOD AFTERNOON AGAIN, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
TO PIGGYBACK, YOU HAVE A LOT THAT HAS BEEN THERE FOREVER AND EVER IN A DAY ON ORANGE STREET AND SWEETWATER ROAD, THAT COULD HAVE EASILY BEEN PROPOSED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
WE MADE THE COUNT WITH THE ENGINEERS.
50 HOMES COULD BE WELCOMED BY 50 FAMILIES THERE INSTEAD OF THE SAME O SAME O MAYOR, YOUR VERY FAVORITE GAS, ALCOHOL, TOBACCO DRIVE-THROUGHS.
UH, I SPOKE TO A RESIDENT AND THE RESIDENT ASKED YOU, WHY NOT AFFORDABLE HOUSING? WHY SO MUCH DRIVE-THROUGHS? AND SHE'LL BE HERE LATER THIS EVENING.
AND YOU SAID SHE WAS MEXICAN, YOU SAID, WELL, YOU'RE MEXICAN.
GEORGE CH TO BE FOLLOWED BY TED GOTCH TO BE FOLLOWED BY MICHAEL AGUIRE.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS GEORGE SHING WITH THE PACIFIC SOUTHWEST ASSOCIATION REALTORS, I WANT TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF ITEM 5.1.
AND THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO MAKING HOME OWNERSHIP A PRIORITY AS WELL AS CITY STAFF FOR THE WORK THAT THEY'VE PUT INTO, LOOK INTO IT AND RESEARCH IT.
UH, HOME OWNERSHIP AS, UM, I'M SURE MANY OF YOU KNOW, IT PROVIDES A LOT OF BENEFITS.
IT'S SUCH AN IMPORTANT STEPPING STONE FOR FAMILIES TO BE ABLE TO PURCHASE SOMETHING.
IT PROVIDES HOUSING STABILITY FOR THEM.
IT PROVIDES THE ABILITY TO BUILD EQUITY AND, AND CREATE INTERGENERATIONAL WEALTH.
AND THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER RIPPLE EFFECTS THAT COME ALONG WITH, UH, ALLOWING FAMILIES TO DO THAT.
YOU KNOW, THERE THERE'S INCREASED SPENDING, INCREASED INVESTMENT LOCALLY IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
UM, SO I, I WANT TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF, OF THIS ITEM, AND
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SPECIFICALLY IF YOU'RE GONNA CONSIDER WHAT TYPES OF, UH, PROJECTS TO PRIORITIZE.UM, IF ANYTHING, ANYTHING THAT'S FOR PURCHASE FIRST.
I KNOW RENT TO OWN IS, UH, UM, AN OPTION, BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO PRIORITIZE HOME OWNERSHIP.
THANK YOU TED GOTCH TO BE FOLLOWED BY, UH, MICHAEL AGIRI.
TED GOTCH HERE ONCE AGAIN, LIMITED IN OUR TIME TO SPEAK.
YOU CAN START AT FIVE O'CLOCK.
YOU STARTED TONIGHT AT FIVE O'CLOCK.
YOU NEED TO MOVE UP YOUR REGULAR MEETING TO FIVE O'CLOCK.
YOU NEED TO GET YOUR BUSINESS DONE BEFORE 10 O'CLOCK.
YOU HAVE YOUR CHILDREN, YOU NEED TO BE TALKING TO THE AGENDA ITEM.
UM, ON THE ITEMS IN YOUR PACKET, PROPERTY NUMBER SIX, PLAZA BONITA CENTER WAY IS IN THE RURAL, MOST RURAL PART OF NATIONAL CITY.
YOU SHOULD STICK TO WHAT YOU SAY WHEN YOU DENSIFY THE INNER CITY AND LIMIT PARKING BECAUSE IT'S NEXT TO TRANSIT AND YOU SHOULD NOT DEVELOP THAT PARCEL OUT THERE.
IT'S A HAZARD TO DEVELOP IT AT ALL.
THE OTHER THING THAT I WANNA MENTION IS THAT THIS WHOLE THING IS SMALL POTATOES.
YOU NEED TO HAVE SOMEBODY MARCH DOWN TO THE PORT DISTRICT TO THE BAY AT THE END OF 24TH STREET AND STICK A FLAG IN THE GROUND AND TELL THE PORT DISTRICT AND PE ASIA TO MOVE NORTH OF 24TH STREET SO THAT NATIONAL CITY CAN DEVELOP ITS BAYFRONT FOR HOUSING.
UH, MICHAEL LAG, SMALL POTATOES, LOGAN.
UM, YOU DECIDE IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BASED UPON YOUR ZONING DECISIONS.
AND WHAT WE'RE ASKING YOU TO DO IS TO RESTORE THE SWEETWATER ORANGE PROPERTY TO ZONING 18.60 0.010.
THAT WILL GIVE YOU 50 ADDITIONAL AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS.
AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE WORKSHOPS OR ANY OF THAT.
AND WE URGE YOU TO LOOK AT THE REMAINING ZONING TO SEE IF OTHER, UH, RESTORATIONS CAN BE MADE.
[5.1 Own National City Homeownership Study Preliminary Findings and Request for Proposals to Develop Affordable Homeownership on Six (6) City-Owned Properties.]
ALRIGHT, NOW WE GO INTO THE STAFF REPORT AND YES, MR. I THINK YOU'RE GONNA BE, UH, I'LL JUST DO VERY BRIEF INTRODUCTION.CARLOS, UH, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
UH, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.
UH, BEFORE I QUICKLY PASS OVER THE MIC, UH, TO ANGELITA PALMA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, I'M SORRY, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT MANAGER.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO THANK STAFF, UH, FOR THEIR WORK ON SECURING A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT GRANT FROM SANDAG TO MAKE THIS ALL POSSIBLE.
UH, THIS, PUTTING THIS WORKSHOP TOGETHER AND THEN THE ENSUING RFP PROCESS, UH, IT'S, IT'S BEEN BLOOD, SWEAT, AND TEARS TO PUT EVERYTHING TOGETHER AND, AND MAKE IT, UM, UH, RIGHT SIZE FOR NATIONAL CITY.
WE'RE ATTEMPTING TO, UH, CAST A WIDE NET WITH THIS RFP PROCESS, BUT I THINK, UH, WE ARE VERY HOPEFUL THAT THIS WILL GIVE US THE, THE BEST OF POSSIBILITIES AND, AND ENSURE, UH, THE BEST AFFORDABILITY THAT WE CAN POSSIBLE.
SO, UH, WE'RE VERY PROUD OF ALL THIS INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE AND, UH, IT'S, IT'LL BE HERE FOR, UH, NOT ONLY FOR THIS RFP, BUT IT'LL INFORM OTHER THINGS THAT WE DO HERE IN THE CITY.
OTHER CITIES ARE PAYING ATTENTION TO WHAT WE'RE DOING.
AND SO I, I THINK IT'S PART OF A MOVEMENT TO REALLY UNDERSTAND, UH, THE POWER OF HOME OWNERSHIP AND WHAT IT CAN DO TO COMMUNITIES LIKE NATIONAL CITY.
SO, THANK YOU, UH, WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, UH, ANGELITA.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL, COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND STAFF.
MY NAME IS ANGEL DE PALMA, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT MANAGER WITH THE NATIONAL CITY HOUSING AUTHORITY, PRESENTING ON OWN NATIONAL CITY, A GRANT FUNDED STUDY ON HOME OWNERSHIP.
AND WE'LL BRIEFLY INTRODUCE THE RFP FOR SIX CITY OWNED PROPERTIES.
HERE WITH US IS LENNY GINO AND JULIE ROMNEY FROM KAISER MARSON AND ASSOCIATES, WHO CO WAS CONTRACTED TO CONDUCT A HOME OWNERSHIP STUDY AND RFP PROCESS, AS WELL AS SUB-CONSULTANT DIEGO VELASCO WITH CITY THINKERS WHO CO WHO CONDUCTED THE SITE ANALYSIS.
WE'LL START THE AGENDA FOR THIS EVENING WITH A BIT OF BACKGROUND ON HOUSING AND HOME OWNERSHIP IN NATIONAL CITY AND HOW WE GOT TO THIS POINT.
THEN WE'LL INTRODUCE OUR STUDY, OWN NATIONAL CITY REVIEW, THE SITE ASSESSMENTS AND HOME OWNERSHIP PROGRAM ASSESSMENT.
THEN WE WILL SKIP OUR, UH, FOR THE SAKE OF TIME, WE'LL SKIP, UH, THE COUNCIL DISCUSSION.
THEN WE'LL BRIEFLY INTRODUCE THE RFP.
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UM, AND WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT OUR HOME OWNERSHIP PROGRAM ASSESSMENT AND SOME OF OUR NEXT STEPS.TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND, UH, AS WE REFLECT ON HOUSING IN NATIONAL CITY.
HISTORICALLY, THE MAJORITY OF OUR CITY RESOURCES, BOTH FUNDING AND CITY OWNED LAND, HAVE GONE TO AFFORDABLE RENTAL HOUSING DEVELOPMENT.
ON THE OTHER HAND, FEW RESOURCES HAVE GONE TO HOME OWNERSHIP PROJECTS.
THROUGH TOGETHER, WE PLAN OUR RESIDENTS PROVIDED STAFF INPUT INTO PLANNING DOCUMENTS THAT WILL DRIVE THE FUTURE OF OUR COMMUNITY.
WITH THE CITY COUNCIL'S APPROVAL OF THE FOCUS GENERAL PLAN UPDATE, OUR CITY WILL MOVE FORWARD TO MEET CURRENT AND FUTURE HOUSING NEEDS, WHICH WILL INCLUDE HOME OWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR RESIDENTS.
WITH THE CITY COUNCIL DRIVEN 9 0 1 POLICY AMENDMENT, CITY OWNED PROPERTIES ZONE FOR RESIDENTIAL USE WILL REQUIRE HOME OWNERSHIP UNITS TO BE BUILT ON THEM WITH MAXIMIZED AFFORDABILITY AND 75% OF THE UNITS SOLD TO NATIONAL CITY RESIDENTS.
ANOTHER NOTABLE ACTION BY THE CITY COUNCIL WAS TO FUND, UH, AT THE PARADISE CREEK APARTMENTS, A HOME OWNERSHIP TRAINING OFFICE AND FINANCIAL LITERACY CLASSES THAT DIRECTOR CARLOS SAGAR HELPED TO SOLIDIFY IN THE CITY'S PARTNERSHIP WITH COMMUNITY HOUSING WORKS.
TAKING A LOOK AT THIS SLIDE, IT'S A VISUAL OF NATIONAL THAT NATIONAL CITY HAS ABOUT TWICE AS MANY RENTERS AS HOMEOWNERS, AND THE UNITS PERMITTED OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS HAVE BEEN PREDOMINANTLY RENTAL.
THIS UNDERSCORES THE NEED FOR MORE HOME OWNERSHIP UNITS IN OUR CITY.
THIS CHART SHOWS NATIONAL CITY'S MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME FALLS BELOW WHAT IS CONSIDERED VERY LOW INCOME FOR SAN DIEGO COUNTY, AND IS A FACTOR CONTRIBUTING TO NATIONAL CITY'S LOWER PROPORTION OF HOMEOWNERS COMPARED TO THE SURROUNDING REGION.
OWN NATIONAL CITY, WITH THE CITY COUNCIL'S DIRECTION TO PURSUE HOME OWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ON CITY OWNED PROPERTY STAFF APPLIED FOR SAND AGS HOUSING ACCELERATION GRANT, THE CITY WAS AWARDED $450,000 IN FUNDING TO ASSESS HOMEOWNER, THE HOME OWNERSHIP MARKET, CITY OWNED SITES, HOME OWNERSHIP PROGRAMS, AND TO CONDUCT A FIGHT.
FINANCIAL FEASIBILITY ANALYSIS.
DETAILS ON THE STUDY ARE POSTED ON THE PROJECT WEBPAGE, AND THE COMPLETED STUDY WILL BE POSTED ONLINE.
NEXT, WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT OUR SITE ASSESSMENTS.
HI, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I'M WITH CITY THINKERS AND WE ARE, WE'RE HERE TO ASSIST THE CITY AND KAISER MARSTON WITH EVALUATING SIX CITY OWNED SITES.
UH, IN THAT PROCESS, WE LOOKED AT THE PHYSICAL AND CHARACTERISTICS OF EACH SITE.
WE LOOKED AT THE ZONING AND REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS FOR EACH SITE, INFRASTRUCTURE, PARKING CONSIDERATIONS, AND EVENTUALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING IS TRYING TO IDENTIFY POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES FOR EACH OF THE SITES.
SO I WILL GO OVER EACH OF THE SITES AND JUST HIT ON SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS.
YOU CAN SEE UP HERE ON THE SCREEN, WE HAVE A, A AERIAL VIEW OF THE FIRST SITE, WHICH IS ON HIGHLAND AND EDA STREET, COMMONLY KNOWN AS THE PURPLE COW SITE.
IT IS 67, ALMOST 68,000 FEET, UH, SQUARE FEET, SO JUST OVER AN ACRE AND A HALF.
UM, THIS SITE, UH, ANALYSIS ALSO INCLUDED, AS I MENTIONED, ZONING, WHICH YOU CAN SEE IN THE TABLE THERE, UM, AND OUTLINE SOME OF THE KEY CONSIDERATIONS UNDER THE ZONING.
HOWEVER, I'LL HIT ON SOME OF THE, THE, THE KEY CONSTRAINTS AND OPPORTUNITIES.
WE REALLY THINK THAT WITH 68,000 SQUARE FEET, THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY GIVEN THE LARGER SITE TO EXPLORE SINGLE FAMILY, COMPACT, SINGLE FAMILY.
UM, AS THIS, THE GOAL HERE IS HOME OWNERSHIP.
HOWEVER, WE ALSO LOOKED AT TOWN HOME DEVELOPMENT AND EVEN SOME, UM, MULTIFAMILY, UH, FORMATS AND STACK FLATS FOR THE SITE.
UM, THIS SITE HAS REALLY STRONG POSITIVE FRONTAGE ON NORTH HIGHLAND AVENUE.
UM, IT ALSO HAS QUITE A BIT OF TOPOGRAPHY THERE, SO THERE WOULD BE A LOT OF SITE GRADING THAT WOULD NEED TO HAPPEN TO MAKE THIS DEVELOPMENT HAPPEN.
WE ALSO ARE LOOKING AT FIRE ACCESS AND HOW TO OBTAIN THAT AND LOOKING AT, UH, URA LANE AND WHETHER THAT'S EVEN AN OPTION SINCE THAT IS A PRIVATE DRIVE.
THE NEXT SITE, SITE TWO IS HIGH,
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IS ON HIGH, UH, EXCUSE ME, IT'S ON DIVISION STREET AND R STREET, UH, ALSO KNOWN AS DIVISION STREET SITE.IT'S A VERY SMALL SITE, 6,400 SQUARE FEET.
UM, IT IS ZONED IN THE RS TWO ZONE.
UM, THERE IS GOOD PROXIMITY TO, UH, FREEWAY ACCESS AND, AND TRANSIT THERE.
THE SITE DOES ALSO HAVE QUITE A BIT OF TOPOGRAPHY, ABOUT A 10 FOOT DROP, UM, IN THE GRAY THERE.
SO THERE THAT WOULD BE A CONSIDERATION.
ACCESS FROM THE STREET IS ALSO LIMITED.
OUR AVENUE IS NOT A LOT OF FRONTAGE THERE.
DIVISION STREET IS A VERY BUSY STREET.
SO ALSO CONSIDERING HIGHWAY NOISE, UM, WOULD BE SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.
THE RS ZONE DOES HAVE SOME REAR SETBACKS, UM, FRONT AND REAR SETBACKS THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO ADDRESS BECAUSE IT WOULD MAKE THE SITE, UM, UH, THE AVAILABLE AREA FOR SITE DEVELOPMENT QUITE SMALL.
HOWEVER, CONSIDERING ALL THESE THINGS, WE DO THINK THERE'S A POSSIBILITY FOR SINGLE FAMILY OR DUPLEX, ABOUT THREE UNITS ON THE SITE, UH, WITH SOME PARKING AS WELL.
THE THIRD SITE IS ON ROOSEVELT AVENUE AND 11TH STREET, ALSO KNOWN AS THE ROOSEVELT LOT.
IT'S IN YOUR DOWNTOWN SPECIFIC PLAN ZONE, WHICH CONTEMPLATES MIXED USES AND CONTEMPLATES HIGHER DENSITY.
UM, HOWEVER, THE SITE BEING SMALL WILL CREATE SOME LIMITATIONS ON HOW MUCH WE CAN YIELD.
UM, THAT BEING SAID, VERY WALKABLE NEIGHBORHOOD.
GREAT ACCESS, REALLY GOOD FRONTAGE, A REAL OPPORTUNITY WITH THAT BEING THE CORNER TO CREATE A, A NICE WALKABLE, UH, DEVELOPMENT THERE.
UM, WE THINK THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLORE ROW HOMES, SOME COMPACT ROW HOMES, AGAIN, WITH, WITH PARKING FOR EACH OF THE UNITS.
THE FOURTH SITE IS ON A AVENUE AND EAST 11TH STREET, ALSO KNOWN AS THE A AVENUE PROPERTY.
THIS ONE IS ALSO QUITE SMALL, 3,911 SQUARE FEET.
IT'S ALSO IN YOUR DOWNTOWN SPECIFIC PLAN AREA, WHICH CONTEMPLATES THE HIGHER DENSITY AND MIXED USE.
HOWEVER, BEING ON A AVENUE, IT'S ALSO KIND OF A HISTORIC, UM, CONTEXT THERE.
YOU HAVE SOME SMALLER BUNGALOW HOMES THERE.
SO REALLY BEING CONTEXTUAL OR UNDERSTANDING THAT CONTEXT WILL BE SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.
UM, THE SITE IS MOSTLY FLAT, SO IT IN SOME WAYS IS READY FOR DEVELOPMENT.
THERE'S A LOT OF POSITIVE FRONTAGE ON A AVENUE.
AGAIN, VERY WALKABLE AREA GIVEN THE, UH, SMALLER BUNGALOW HOMES IN THE AREA.
WE THINK THIS IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLORE KIND OF THE MODERN BUNGALOW COURT, YOU KNOW, WALK UP BUNGALOW COURT, UM, OR EVEN ROW HOMES FOR THE SITE.
THE FIFTH SITE IS ON EAST PLAZA BOULEVARD AND E AND E AVENUE, ALSO KNOWN AS THE LAMBS THEATER.
UM, THAT HAS GREAT PROXIMITY TO CENTRAL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TO PUBLIC TRANSIT, UM, WHICH PERHAPS COULD HELP REDUCE THE RELIANCE ON THE AUTOMOBILE.
UM, IT DOES HAVE QUITE A BIT OF TOPOGRAPHY AS WELL.
IT'S GOT ABOUT 15 FOOT DROP FROM PLAZA BOULEVARD DOWN E AVENUE.
SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE A CONSIDERATION IN TERMS OF SITE GRADING AND POTENTIAL ACCESS TO THE SITE.
UM, WE THINK THIS IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT COMPACT, UH, ATTACHED SINGLE FAMILY.
AND THEN THE LAST SITE, WHICH WAS MENTIONED EARLIER, IS THE PLAZA BONITA CENTER WAY, UH, OR PLAZA BONITA SITE.
UM, THIS IS ACTUALLY A COMBINATION OF MULTIPLE SITES ACROSS, UM, PLAZA BONITA CENTER WAY.
AS SOME OF YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR, THIS IS A VERY HIGH SPEED, UM, THOROUGHFARE AS CARS ARE COMING OFF OF SR 54 HEADING INTO NATIONAL CITY AND BONITA.
SO FIRE ACCESS IS A BIG CONSIDERATION, BUT ALSO TOPOGRAPHY.
BOTH OF THE SITES HAVE QUITE A BIT OF TOPOGRAPHY.
HAVING SAID THAT, YOU'RE NEAR SWEETWATER HEIGHTS PARK, YOU'RE NEAR POTENTIAL, YOU HAVE POTENTIAL VIEWS.
AND AS WE'RE STUDYING THIS, WE THINK THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLORE COMPACT SINGLE FAMILY, UM, AS ONE ALTERNATIVE AND A DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVE.
COULD BE A ROW HOME, TOWN HOME.
WE ARE GOING TO MOVE TO OUR HOME OWNERSHIP PROGRAM ASSESSMENT PORTION.
I AM A SENIOR PRINCIPAL OF KAISER MAR ASSOCIATES, AND WE WERE TASKED WITH, UM, RESEARCHING HOME OWNERSHIP MODELS, UM, THAT PROMOTE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND EQUITY SHARING.
AND THAT, UM, ASSESSMENT INCLUDED US LOOKING AT, UM, THREE DIFFERENT MODELS, UH, THAT ARE KNOWN
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AS SHARED EQUITY OWNERSHIP MODELS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.AND WE ALSO LOOKED AT A CASE STUDY FOR, UM, A RENTAL TO OWNERSHIP CONVERSION.
AND WE ALSO CONDUCTED 16 STAKEHOLDER INTERVIEWS WITH DEVELOPERS, PROPERTY OWNERS, AND OTHER LOCAL JURISDICTIONS.
AND FINALLY, WE RESEARCHED, UM, THE IMPACT OF CONSTRUCTION DEFECT LITIGATION ON WHY, UM, CONDOMINIUMS AREN'T BEING BUILT.
UM, WHILE EACH SHARED, UH, EQUITY MODELS DIFFERENT, THERE ARE SEVERAL COMMON, UM, CHARACTERISTICS THAT THE THREE MODELS HAVE.
THE FIRST IS THE RESIDENTS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS, UM, ARE HEAVILY INVOLVED IN THE, UM, GOVERNANCE AND OWNERSHIP OF THE PROPERTIES.
UM, THEY'RE, THEY ALL REQUIRE A ONE-TIME PUBLIC INVESTMENT TO MEET THE FEASIBILITY GAP.
HOWEVER, AFTER THAT INITIAL INVESTMENT, THEY ARE SELF-SUSTAINING MODELS.
UM, RESIDENTS AND COMMUNITY BENEFITS, UM, INCLUDE LONG-TERM AFFORDABILITY, SUBSIDY, RETENTION, IMPROVED STABILITY, COMMUNITY CONTROL, AND GENERATIONAL TRANSFER.
THE ONE THING WE DID FIND THAT THEY ALL HAVE IN COMMON IS THAT NONE OF THEM MEET, SOLVE THE PROBLEM OF A FEASIBILITY GAP.
SO THEY ARE, IT'S NOT BY CHOOSING ONE OR THE OTHER ISN'T GOING TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM.
AND SO OUR CONCLUSION IS THAT THESE MODELS ARE CHOSEN FOR SOCIAL REASONS AS WELL AS SPECIFIC CIRCUMSTANCES OF A LOCAL JURISDICTION.
OH, UM, THE THREE LIMITED EQUITY MODELS.
UH, THE FIRST ONE IS DEED RESTRICTIONS.
THIS IS THE MODEL THAT THE CITY CURRENTLY USES FOR YOUR, UM, AFFORDABLE HOME OWNERSHIP UNITS.
AND THAT INCLUDES LEGAL COVENANTS THAT ARE PLACED ON THE PROPERTIES, AND THEY PLACE LIMITS ON HOW, UH, WHO CAN PURCHASE THE UNITS AND THE PRICES THEY CAN BE SOLD AT AND FOR WHAT PERIOD OF TIME.
UH, THE LAND IS OWNED BY THE HOMEOWNER AND THEY ALSO OWN THE UNIT.
UM, THE RESIDENT HAS FULL CONTROL EXCEPT FOR WHATEVER RESTRICTIONS ARE IN THE COVENANTS.
THE RESALE, UM, RESTRICTIONS CAN VARY WIDELY.
THEY COULD BE THAT THEY'RE ONLY RESTRICTED FOR THE PERIOD UNTIL THE NEXT SALE, AND THEN IT GOES TO MARKET, OR IT COULD BE IN PERPETUITY.
SO THERE'S A WIDE RANGE OF HOW THIS CAN BE SET UP.
UM, THE SECOND MODEL IS THE COMMUNITY LAND TRUST MODEL, WHICH IS GETTING, UM, A LOT OF PRESS THESE DAYS.
AND THIS MODEL IS, UM, A NONPROFIT ACQUIRES THE LAND, USUALLY BY SOMEONE DONATES IT TO THEM, OR THEY DO ACQUIRE IT WITH SOME SORT OF SUBSIDY, AND THEN THEY LEASE THE LAND TO THE HOMEOWNERS.
AND, UM, THE HOMEOWNERS LEASE IT THROUGH A LONG-TERM GROUND LEASE.
AND IT'S A, THE GROUND LEASE PAYMENT IS VERY LOW, AND THAT ENDS UP BEING THE FEES THAT PAY FOR ALL THE MONITORING THAT IS NEEDED BY THE, UM, NONPROFIT.
IN THIS CASE, THE LAND IS OWNED BY THE NONPROFIT AND THE HOMEOWNER OWNS THE UNIT.
SO THEY DO NOT OWN THE LAND, BUT THEY OWN THE BUILDING.
UM, THEY HAVE THE LEAST AMOUNT OF CONTROL, UM, BECAUSE THEY USUALLY USE A TRI-PARTY BOARD STRUCTURE, WHICH MEANS A THIRD OF, UM, ONLY ABOUT A THIRD OF THE BOARD MEMBERS ARE OWNERS.
SO IT'S, UM, THEY, THEY USUALLY HAVE, UM, THE NONPROFIT IS USUALLY THE OTHER THIRD, AND THEN SOMETIMES THERE'LL BE, UH, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS ON IT OR OTHER LOCAL, UH, COMMUNITY MEMBERS WILL BE ON IT.
SO THE, THE HOMEOWNERS ONLY ARE HAVE ONE THIRD OF THE BOARD.
UM, BUT THESE RESTRICTIONS, UM, ARE IN PERPETUITY.
THE LIMITED EQUITY HOUSING COOPERATIVES, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S QUITE POPULAR ON THE EAST COAST.
YOU DON'T SEE IT AS MUCH OUT HERE.
UM, AND IT ALSO IS TYPICALLY USED OUT HERE FOR ACQUISITION REHAB.
AND WHAT IT IS, IS THAT YOU GET A GROUP OF RESIDENTS THAT ARE IN A BUILDING AND THEY BUY THE BUILDING.
AND SO SOMEONE IS HELPING, UM, PULL THEM TOGETHER AND GET THE FINANCING TOGETHER.
AND EACH HOUSEHOLD OWNS A SHARE, UM, REPRESENTING THEIR USE OF THE UNIT, OF THEIR UNIT.
UM, SO IT'S LIKE BUYING INTO A CORPORATION.
SO THEY, SO IT'S DIFFERENT THAN, UM, LIKE A CONDOMINIUM WHERE YOU ACTUALLY OWN THE, UM, YOUR, YOUR UNIT.
THIS IS, YOU HAVE IT, YOU HAVE YOU OWN SHARES THAT ALLOWS YOU TO USE THAT UNIT.
THE, UH, RESIDENTS COLLECTIVELY OWN THE LAND.
SOMETIMES IT'S, UM, A HYBRID WITH THE COMMUNITY LAND TRUST MODEL.
SO THERE'LL BE A COMMUNITY LAND TRUST OWNING
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THE LAND, AND THEN THE RESIDENTS OWN THE BUILDING.UM, SO THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT VARIATIONS.
UM, THEY, THE RESIDENTS HAVE THE MOST DIRECT CONTROL ON THIS BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL ON THE BOARD.
SO, UM, EVERY BOARD MEMBER IS A RESIDENT.
UM, THE, THEY ALSO, UM, THESE RESTRICTIONS ARE INTO PERPETUITY, BUT THAT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT IF EITHER OF THE, THE COMMUNITY LAND TRUSTS OR THE LI EQUITY HOUSING CO-OP IS DISSOLVED BY THE BOARDS, THEN YOU LOSE THE AFFORDABILITY RESTRICTIONS.
THERE ARE WAYS TO, TO MONITOR THAT, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE, UM, TO BE MONITORED.
UH, ONGOING STEWARDSHIP IS A, A KEY TO KEEPING THESE AFFORDABLE.
AS I SAID, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE POSSIBILITIES OF THE AFFORDABILITY COVENANTS BEING WIPED OUT OR, UM, OTHER SITUATIONS.
AND SO FOR THE DEED RESTRICTIONS, UM, THE CITY WOULD BE COMPLETELY RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT STEWARDSHIP TO, TO MONITOR THOSE UNITS.
UNDER THE COMMUNITY LAND TRUST, IT IS THE, UM, COMMUNITY LAND TRUST BOARD OF DIRECTORS.
AND THEN THEY USUALLY DO A, UM, THEY'LL, THEY'LL GET A MANAGEMENT COMPANY TO COME IN AND DO IT.
USUALLY THE BOARD MEMBERS AREN'T ACTUALLY MONITORING IT, BUT THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE.
THE LIMITED EQUITY HOUSING CO-OPS, THE OWNERS ARE COMPLETELY RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THIS.
AND OFTENTIMES THEY WILL ALSO, ESPECIALLY WHEN THE BUILDING NEEDS TO BE REFINANCED OR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, THEY WILL GO OUT AND GET SOMEONE TO HELP THEM, UM, WITH THAT PROCESS BE WHO HAS THE EXPERTISE TO HELP THEM.
UM, KA ALSO RESEARCHED A LOCAL RENTAL TO OWNERSHIP CONVERSION PROJECT THAT SHOULD BE STARTING CONSTRUCTION IN 2025.
UM, THIS MODEL DOES, UM, TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE FEASIBILITY GAP.
SO IT'S USING TAX CREDIT MONEY THAT, UM, IS FOR RENTAL HOUSING TO GET THE BUILDING BUILT, AND THEN IT WILL BE CONVERTED TO OWNERSHIP AFTER THE 15 YEAR TAX CREDIT.
UM, UH, COMPLIANCE PERIOD IS OVER.
SO THIS PROJECT IS IN SAN YSIDRO AND, UM, THE DEVELOPER ALREADY OWNS LAND AND THEY HAVE SET UP A COMMUNITY LAND TRUST.
THEY'RE GOING TO DONATE THAT LAND TO THE LAND TRUST, AND THEN THE LAND TRUST WILL LEASE THE LAND TO THE PROJECT FOR THE 103 UNITS.
AND IT WILL BE LIKE PROBABLY A DOLLAR A YEAR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
IT'LL BE VERY, UM, LOW, BUT THAT WILL HA THAT'S HOW THE RESTRICTIONS ON THOSE UNITS BE HELD.
AND THEN AT, IN 2042, IT'S ESTIMATED AT THE 15 YEAR COMPLIANCE PERIOD, WE WOULD BE OVER, THESE UNITS WOULD THEN BE SOLD TO THE TENANTS AT LOW INCOME PRICES AND THAT, BUT THAT IS NOT GUARANTEED.
IT JUST MEANS THAT THEY ARE, THEY CAN AT THAT POINT SELL THE UNITS.
UM, I THINK WE'LL GO ON TO THE NEXT ONE.
THE LAST SLIDE IS, UM, REGARDING THE COM, UH, CONSTRUCTION DEFECT LITIGATION IN CALIFORNIA AND THE IMPACT ON CONDOMINIUM DEVELOPMENT.
UM, WE DID FIND, WE REVIEWED SEVERAL STUDIES THAT HAVE LOOKED AT THIS, AND, UM, THEY FOUND THAT THEIR, THE ENVIRONMENT IN CALIFORNIA DOES IMPACT, UM, HIGHER INSURANCE CLASSES AND REDUCES THE DEVELOPMENT OF CONDOMINIUMS. UM, HOWEVER, WHEN WE DID OUR STAKEHOLDER INTERVIEWS WITH THE DEVELOPERS, THEY SAID IT'S NOT, THIS IS NOT THE ONLY REASON WHY CONDOMINIUMS ARE NOT BEING BUILT IN CALIFORNIA.
THE OTHER REASONS ARE THAT TYPICALLY CONDOMINIUMS ARE BUILT WITH TYPE THREE OR TYPE ONE CONSTRUCTION, WHICH IS A LOT MORE EXPENSIVE, THOUGH THAT EXPENSIVE, UM, TYPE OF CONSTRUCTION ALSO HAS MORE EXPENSIVE ISSUES.
SO THEY, AND THEY'RE ALSO USUALLY BIGGER PROJECTS.
UM, THE OTHER THING IS THAT PRO CONDOMINIUM PROJECTS ARE USUALLY BUILT IN ONE PHASE AND THEY CANNOT BE.
SO YOU HAVE TO COME UP WITH ALL YOUR CAPITAL, UM, MONEY UPFRONT AND FINANCE IT ALL AT THE BEGINNING.
LIKE WITH TOWN HOMES, THEY CAN DO, YOU KNOW, FIVE AT A TIME OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND, AND YOU CAN PHASE IT SO YOU CAN RECIRCULATE YOUR, YOUR FUNDING.
UM, THE OTHER REASON WHY, THE REASON WHY CONDOMINIUMS ATTRACT SO MUCH, UM, LITIGATION IS BECAUSE THEY'RE USUALLY LARGER PROJECTS.
AND THAT'S WHAT ATTRACTS THE, UM, THE PLAINTIFF'S ATTORNEYS THAT THEN GO AND THEY, THEY TRACK THIS AND THEN THEY GO AND, AND WORK WITH THE HOMEOWNERS AND GET THE CONDO OWNERS AND THEY GET PEOPLE TO DO THE CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT.
IF IT'S A SMALLER PROJECT, IT'S NOT WORTH THEIR TIME.
SO USUALLY THEY DON'T, UM, GO AFTER THOSE.
SO THAT'S AGAIN, WHY, WHY THE BIGGER PROJECTS
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AREN'T, AREN'T BEING BUILT.UM, AND THEN WHEN WE, WE TALKED TO SEVERAL DEVELOPERS ABOUT THIS, BUT LIKE THE OLSON COMPANY TOLD US, THEY, THEY, UM, COMPLETELY WILL NOT DO CONSTRUCTION TELL OR CONDOMINIUMS UNTIL THIS IS TAKEN CARE OF.
AND THEN HABITAT IS STARTING TO SEE THIS BE A PROBLEM FOR THEM AS THEY DO DENSER PROJECTS, AND IT'S GOING TO BE AN ISSUE THAT THEY DON'T KNOW HOW THEY WILL RESOLVE.
SO, UM, ANYWAYS, OUR CONCLUSION ON THAT IS THAT THIS IS AN IMPACTFUL THING ON CONDOMINIUMS, BUT IF YOU'RE IN AN AREA WHERE, LIKE IN, UM, BEVERLY HILLS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT WHERE YOU HAVE VERY HIGH, UH, SALES PRICES, THEY STILL WILL BUILD CONDOMINIUMS. THEY CAN, THEY CAN AFFORD TO DO IT.
UM, MR. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, MY NAME IS LIN GINO.
I'M A SENIOR PRINCIPAL WITH KAISER MARSON ASSOCIATES, AND WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO, UH, TALK ABOUT THE NEXT STEP WITH REGARD TO THE RFP PROCESS.
SO THE RFP WILL BE ACCESSED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE AND PLANET BIDS PLATFORM RESPONDENTS WILL NEED TO REGISTER WITH PLANET BIDS TO RECEIVE ANY UPDATES ON THE RFP OR TO SUBMIT AND RECEIVE, UH, RESPONSES TO QUESTIONS AND RECEIVE ANY AGENDA TO THE RFP.
UM, THE RFP IS SCHEDULED TO BE RELEASED TOMORROW, MARCH 19TH.
DEVELOPERS WILL HAVE APPROXIMATELY 75 DAYS TO RESPOND.
THEY'LL BE PERFORMING THEIR OWN DUE DILIGENCE, DECIDING WHICH SITES THEY WANNA PURSUE, ASSEMBLING A DEVELOPMENT TEAM COMING UP WITH DEVELOPMENT CONCEPT FOR THOSE SITES, HIRING AN ARCHITECT TO DEVELOP SITE PLANS AND PREPARING FINANCIAL PERFORMANCE.
AND THEN PACKAGING THE PROPOSAL FOR SUBMISSION.
BY JUNE 6TH, UM, KMA AND CITY STAFF WILL HAVE 60 DAYS TO REVIEW THE PROPOSAL SUBMITTED.
AND DURING THAT TIME, WE'LL BE REVIEWING THE OVERALL FEASIBILITY OF EACH PROPOSED PROJECT.
WE'LL REVIEW THE SITE PLAN AND HOW THEY FIT INTO THE CONTEXT OF THE COMMUNITY, AND THEN DETERMINE THE OVERALL REASONABLENESS OF THEIR FINANCIAL PROPOSAL.
AND THEN WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER 30 DAYS TO PRESENT OUR PRELIMINARY FINDINGS TO CITY STAFF.
WE'LL GO BACK TO THE RESPONDENTS IF NEEDED, IF WE HAVE ANY FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS, AND THEN WE'LL COME UP WITH A SHORT LIST OF DEVELOPERS AND SCHEDULE AND CONDUCT INTERVIEWS WITH THOSE DEVELOPERS IF NEEDED.
AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO, UM, TO PRESENT OUR FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS TO CITY COUNCIL IN EARLY OCTOBER.
SO STAFF CONTINUES TO PURSUE BOTH PUBLIC AND PRIVATE GRANT FUNDING TO FACILITATE AFFORDABLE HOME OWNERSHIP DEVELOPMENT FOR OUR RESIDENTS.
STAY UP TO DATE WITH OUR HOME OWNERSHIP STUDY AND RFP PROCESS ON OUR OWN NATIONAL CITY WEBPAGE.
WE CAN NOW OPEN IT FOR CITY COUNCIL COMMENTS.
OKAY, SO LET ME JUST ASK WHAT IS NEEDED FROM US TONIGHT.
UH, IT SOUNDS LIKE AS IF YOU'RE GONNA BE LOOKING FOR PROPOSALS AND THE PROPOSALS CAN FIT A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT CATEGORIES THAT YOU HAVE PUT UP THERE.
SO MAYBE STRICT HOME OWNERSHIP, IT MIGHT BE THIS COMMUNITY, UH, TYPE PROJECT.
IT MIGHT BE, UH, UH, RENT TO OWN, UH, EQUITY TYPE OF THING.
SO IT CAN BE DIFFERENT PROPOSALS WITHIN THAT.
IS THAT, IS THAT WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE GETTING? THAT'S CORRECT.
BUT WE PROVIDED THE BACKGROUND MARKET DATA AND ANALYSIS AND DEMOGRAPHICS, ET CETERA, TO MAKE IT A LITTLE MUCH EASIER FOR SOMEONE TO FIT THE SITE TO THE MODEL THAT'S APPROPRIATE AND, UH, AND AVOID CONFUSION ABOUT WHAT DIFFERENT MODELS ARE OUT THERE TO DO.
SO HOPEFULLY WITH ALL THIS INFORMATION, IT'S BEEN PUT IN A FORM THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL IN PRODUCING THE BEST R-S-P-R-F-P RESPONDENTS.
SO WE DON'T HAVE TO, WE DON'T HAVE TO DECIDE BETWEEN ONE MODEL OR THE OTHER TONIGHT BECAUSE THAT'S GONNA BE PART OF THE PROPOSALS.
AND WE MIGHT GET DIFFERENT MODELS FOR THE EXACT SAME SITES FROM DIFFERENT, UH, DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS.
STAFF WILL GRADE THE PROPOSALS AND BRING THEM BACK TO YOU FOR CONSIDERATION AND WE'LL LIST THEM OUT TO YOU AND, AND THE PROS AND CONS OF EACH AND, AND YOU'LL BE ABLE TO MAKE A SELECTION FROM THAT.
AND, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, THESE SITES ARE ONES THAT ARE, UH, CURRENTLY UNDER OUR CONTROL AND I THINK DO MAKE, UH, MAKE SENSE TO LOOK AT.
THE ONLY ONE THAT I DISAGREE WITH AT THIS TIME IS THE LAMBS PLAYERS THEATER SITE.
SINCE TO REALLY DEVELOP THAT SITE, THERE'S ONE MORE PIECE OF PROPERTY THERE BETWEEN THEM AND WALMART.
IT'S THE ONLY OTHER PIECE OF PROPERTY AND IT VERY WELL BECOME AVAILABLE IN, IN A FEW, PROBABLY IN COMING YEARS, BUT UNTIL IT DOES TO DEVELOP A SMALLER PROJECT ON THAT OTHER SITE WHICH HAS THE TOPOGRAPHY PROBLEMS AND NOT HAVING THAT OTHER SITE TO JOIN WITH IT, I DON'T THINK MAKES A LOT OF, LOT OF SENSE.
AND SO THAT ONE, YOU KNOW, I I HATE TO SEE US DO A HODGEPODGE THERE, DO A TWO SMALLER
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PROJECT WHERE INSTEAD WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO A LARGER PROJECT MAYBE 10 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD AND INSTEAD OF TRYING TO DO ONE RIGHT NOW, AND, YOU KNOW, AND WE DON'T NECESSARILY, WE'VE GOT VERY LITTLE, VERY LITTLE PROPERTY PEOPLE THINK THAT CITY HAS A LOT OF PROPERTY.THOSE ARE BASICALLY, YOU SEE THERE, THERE'S A COUPLE OF MAYBE OTHER SMALL SPOTS IN TOWN YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO PUT A SINGLE HOUSE ON, BUT THAT'S ABOUT IT THAT CITY OWNS.
WE DON'T NEED TO DEVELOP IT ALL JUST FOR THIS ONE TIME PERIOD AND NOT LEAVE US ANY OPTIONS FOR FIVE OR 10 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD TO HAVE ANY OTHER OPTIONS.
UH, I THINK WE SAW, UH, MEMBER MOLINA HAND UP.
THANK YOU MAYOR, UH, THANK YOU STAFF FOR THIS, UM, ALL OF THIS INFORMATION.
I REALLY ENJOYED THE, UH, SLIDE DECK.
IT DEFINITELY WAS VERY HELPFUL TO HELP ME UNDERSTAND A LOT OF THE STUFF THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
UM, AND THANK YOU CARLOS, FOR DRIVING THIS, FOR THIS PROJECT FORWARD.
ONE QUESTION, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
ONE IS ON SLIDE 16 RELATED TO THE LIMITED EQUITY BO MODELS, UM, EACH OF THESE THREE, JUST AS A MAYOR DESCRIBED EACH OF THESE THREE MODELS CAN APPLY TO EACH OF THE SIX SITES.
UM, MY QUESTION HAS TO DO IS WHO OWNS THE LAND DEED RESTRICTED? THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY WOULD CONTINUE AS THE LAND OWNER.
IS THAT, AM I UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY? NO.
ALL OF THESE WOULD REQUIRE NATIONAL CITY TO GIVE UP THE OWNERSHIP OF THE LAND.
GARY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE THAT QUESTION OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE SURE? I'LL JUST ANSWER QUICKLY.
SO OUR PRIORITY IS PERPETUITY OF AFFORDABILITY AND THAT CAN BE CREATED WITH SOMEONE ELSE OWNING THE LAND, BUT HAVING A COVENANT ON THE PROPERTY, WHICH RESTRICTS IT FROM 55 YEARS TO 99 YEARS, BUT THAT COVENANT 55 TO 99 YEARS, THAT CAN HAPPEN WHILE THIS LAND IS OWNED BY SOMEBODY ELSE.
OR DOES THE CITY, NATIONAL CITY MAINTAIN OWNERSHIP OF THE LAND? THE CITY WOULD NOT MAINTAIN OWNERSHIP BUT WOULD HAVE CONTROL, RESTRICTIVE CONTROL OF HOW THE PROPERTY WOULD BE USED INTO THE FUTURE YEARS AS THE DEED RESTRICTION? THAT'S CORRECT.
AND ALL THE OTHER, UH, MODELS HAVE THAT AS A FEATURE WHERE THERE'S RESTRICTIONS INTO THE FUTURE.
BUT DIFFERENT TYPES OF GOVERNANCE.
AND, AND SO, UM, I THINK I KNOW THE QUESTION, THE ANSWER HERE, BUT NATIONAL CITY DOESN'T STAND TO GAIN FINANCIALLY FROM SELLING THE LAND, RIGHT? IT WOULD SORT OF BE SOME TYPE OF AGREEMENT TO, YOU KNOW, NATIONAL CITIES GIVING UP THE LAND, BUT THEN OF COURSE, UH, THE DEVELOPERS ARE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, WELL, UH, NOT PAY TOP DOLLAR FOR IT.
WELL, NO, THEY, THEY, THEY PAY THE TOP DOLLAR, BUT THAT THEY'LL PAY MARKET, BUT THAT MONEY IS AGREED THAT'LL COME BACK TO SUBSIDIZED UNITS.
SO IN ESSENCE, THE EQUITY STAYS TO SUBSIDIZE THE, THE UNITS SO THAT THEY'RE AFFORDABLE.
SO WE'D NEVER U LOSE VALUE IN, IN, IN, IN LOOKING AT THESE PROPOSALS, WHAT WE DO IS WE USE THAT VA VALUE TO, TO THEN PAY FOR THE AFFORDABILITY IN, IN THE PRO IN THE PROJECT.
UH, AND THEN, UM, MY OTHER QUESTION HAD TO DO THE PREVIOUS SLIDE 15, THERE ARE STILL INITIAL FINANCIAL FEASIBILITY GAPS ASSOCIATED WITH DEVELOPING AFFORDABLE OWNERSHIP UNITS.
THIS FALLS TO THE DEVELOPERS TO SORT OF FIGURE OUT, RIGHT? THERE ARE A LOT OF GRANT OPPORTUNITIES OUT THERE FOR HOME OWNERSHIP FROM THE STATE.
UM, THERE'S ALSO, UM, WE, WE CAN LOOK AT HOW TO STRUCTURE IT.
SO IF THERE'S A BALANCE BETWEEN MARKET RATE UNITS AND AFFORDABLE THAT WILL MAXIMIZE THE AFFORDABILITY, THEN THAT'S THE REALITY WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH.
BUT WE'LL WORK WITH THE VALUE THAT'S IN THE PROPERTY AND THEN POTENTIAL PROGRAMS, UH, THAT, THAT ARE OUTSIDE, THAT ARE BROUGHT IN OR A MIXTURE OF INCOME.
SO, SO THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO ESSENTIALLY SUBSIDIZE THE, UH, A CERTAIN NUMBER OF SIMILAR TO DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM, A NUMBER OF AFFORDABLE UNITS THROUGH THE MARKET RATE UNITS THAT ARE SOLD.
UM, AND, AND FINALLY, THE, UM, THIS, THIS IDEA HOW THE DEVELOPER PLANS TO FILL IN THESE GAPS, THIS IS PART OF THE RFP PROCESS, WE WILL SEE HOW THEY ARE AIMING TO SORT OF MAKE ALL OF THE, ALL OF THE BOXES FIT.
AND SOME OF THESE SITES MAY GO FORWARD, AND AS THE MAYOR ALLUDED, SOME OF THESE SITES MAY BE RECONSIDERED AT THAT TIME DEPENDING ON HOW, HOW CONVINCING OR HOW FEASIBLE THE, THE RESPONDENTS ARE.
UM, I, I DO SUPPORT THIS, THIS REPORT AND, UM, THE RFP BEING RELEASED AND, UH, MOVING FORWARD.
SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS.
UH, TO THE MAYOR'S POINT, THE CONCERN WITH THE RFP AND THE LAMB THEATER, I THINK THAT I, I HEAR YOUR CONCERN AND I, I WOULD SAY THAT WE STILL MOVE FORWARD WITH RFP ON ALL OF IT BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, CARLOS, THAT IF WE, IF THE DEVELOPER DOESN'T, IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY THERE, THERE, WE CAN PUT A HOLD ON THE PROPOSAL OR WE
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CAN MM-HMMMAYBE PUT THAT IN THE RFP THAT HEY, THERE'S THIS POTENTIAL YEAH.
DEVELOPMENT, CAN YOU ADDRESS IT? THAT'S CORRECT.
AND, AND SOME OF THE DEVELOPERS MAY, MAY REACH OUT TO PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE ADJACENT WHERE THE LAND IS UNDERUTILIZED AND LOOK AT NEGOTIATING, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, AN OPTION WITH THEM SO THAT THE PROPERTIES ARE INCLUDED IN THE PROJECT.
BUT I AGREE WITH THE MAYOR'S POINT THAT IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD MORE UNITS, THEN WE SHOULD CORRECT DELAY A BIT AND, AND TAKE IT.
AND THEN MY FINAL THOUGHT IS THE, I I REALLY APPRECIATE THE INFO AND THE CONSTRUCTION DEFECT INSURANCE, IN MY OPINION, UH, THAT, THAT INSURANCE LAW, AND IN MY OPINION, BASED ON JUST MY RESEARCH AND EVERYTHING, I KNOW, I THINK THAT IS ONE OF THE PRINCIPLE CAUSES OF THE SHORTAGE.
OF, UH, CONDOMINIUM AND FOR SALE UNITS.
AND SO I'M NOT CLEAR IF THAT TAKES A LEGISLATIVE FIX IN AT THE STATE LEVEL.
SO IF IT DOES, THEN I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE AS A CITY START WORKING ON, MAKE THAT A LEGISLATIVE PRIORITY.
AND WE CAN DO THAT WITH OUR OWN CONVERSATION, WITH OUR OWN ASSEMBLY MEMBER.
BUT THE CONSTRUCTION DEFECT INSURANCE LAW, THAT SEEMS TO BE SOMETHING THAT HAS A PURPOSE AND HAS A PLACE, BUT IS HAVING UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES, WHICH IS LIKE THIS NOW, THERE'S TOO MUCH RENTAL AND NOT ENOUGH, UH, FOR SALE.
SO IF WE CAN ADDRESS THAT, THE CONSTRUCTION DEFECT, I WOULD ASK THAT STAFF REALLY DO MORE TO ADDRESS THAT.
WE'RE DEFINITELY HAVING THOSE CONVERSATION WITH POLICY MAKERS.
YEAH, I WOULD JUST, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE IT, YOU KNOW, I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE BUSY, BUT I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT, THAT MOVE FORWARD WITH SOME MORE CONCRETE UPDATES, BUT, UH, BUT I APPRECIATE THAT.
ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU, MS. MAYOR.
I REALLY WANT TO THANK STAFF AND CONSULTANTS FOR WORKING ON THIS.
IT'S, UH, IMPERATIVE THAT WE BUILD MORE HOME OWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITY, AND THANK YOU TO MY COLLEAGUES FOR, FOR MAKING THIS, UM, PUSHING THIS FORWARD AS WELL.
UH, JUST OUT OF, UM, UH, CLARITY, UM, BECAUSE I DID HAVE THE SAME POINT ABOUT THE PROPERTY ITSELF.
UM, LET'S SAY THEORETICALLY WE MOVE FORWARD IN BUILDING X AMOUNT OF UNITS ON A PROPERTY WHICH IS CURRENTLY VACANT.
UM, WOULD THE CITY, UH, UH, GENERATE PROPERTY TAX REVENUES THROUGH THE CREATION OF MORE UNITS ON THE PROPERTY ITSELF? YEAH, THERE, THERE'S DEFINITELY FROM A PROPERTY TAX PERSPECTIVE, AND THEN FROM A PERSPECTIVE THAT THE, THESE ARE UNDERUTILIZED.
SO YOU DON'T HAVE THE ECONOMY HAPPENING IN AND AROUND THESE PARCELS.
SO JUST BRINGING THEM, BRINGING PEOPLE IN, THEN CREATE MORE CONSUMERS, LOCAL CONSUMERS TO OUR STORES AND OTHER BUSINESSES.
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT UP, COUNCIL MEMBER.
'CAUSE I ALSO HAVE THE SAME CONCERN AS WELL.
UM, AND ALSO, UH, UH, I THINK THE ULTIMATE, AT LEAST FOR, FOR, I WOULD HOPE THAT WE GET TO OWNERSHIP IN ANY WAY POSSIBLE, BUT I THINK THAT IT IS, UH, IMPERATIVE TO ALSO INCLUDE THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND MAKING SURE THAT OUR REALTORS ARE INCLUDED IN THE MARKET SO THAT THERE IS A MIX OF PRIVATE AND PUBLIC, UH, PARTICIPATION IN THIS.
UM, I DO FIND IT IMPERATIVE FOR NOT JUST OUR POLICY HERE, BUT IN HOPES THAT OTHER CITIES WOULD DO THE SAME.
AND IN ORDER TO DO THAT, WE NEED THE POLITICAL WILL OF ORGANIZATIONS LIKE PSAR HERE IN ORDER TO PUSH THIS REGIONALLY AND HOPEFULLY STATEWIDE, BECAUSE AS MY COLLEAGUE MENTIONED, UM, WE ARE BUILDING WAY TOO MANY APARTMENT COMPLEXES AND NOT ENOUGH UNITS FOR SALE, NOT JUST IN NATIONAL CITY, BUT REALLY STATEWIDE, THAT'S LEADING TO A OVERBEARING HOUSING CRISIS.
SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE TO INCLUDE THE PRIVATE MARKET, ESPECIALLY, UH, UH, REALTORS TO BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROGRAM GOING FORWARD.
UM, I, I APPRECIATE THE REPORT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR OUR CONSULTANTS AS WELL FOR THIS, UM, YOU, I MEAN, VERY PRECISE, UM, REPORT THAT YOU HAVE PROVIDED US.
UM, YOU, I MEAN, JUST LIKE WHAT I'M SAYING, WE AS THE, UH, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL HAVE TO CREATE, YOU KNOW, IN THIS ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR, UH, PEOPLE IN NATIONAL CITY RATHER THAN THOSE, UH, CITY OWNED LAND THAT ARE JUST VACANT AND NOT, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, AND NOT PROVIDING US THAT ECONOMIC WEALTH AS WELL, UH, BACK TO THE CITY.
UM, SO I, I BELIEVE THAT THIS HOME OWNERSHIP PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE AND, AND I AM STRONGLY PROMOTING FOR HOME OWNERSHIP AND, UM, I'M SURE THAT THERE ARE OTHER, UM, YOU KNOW, OPTIONS THERE THAT YOU HAVE, UM, INDICATED.
UM, BUT I THINK, UM, CREATING THESE OPPORTUNITIES TO OUR, UM, RESIDENTS AND, UH, PEOPLE IN NATIONAL CITY WOULD ALSO CREATE OPPORTUNITY OPPORTUNITIES BACK TO OUR CITY.
I SURE HOPE THAT THIS RFP WILL, UM, WILL MOVE FORWARD AND, AND, UM, WE HAVE PROGRAMS THAT WILL REALLY, UM, INVITE THOSE DEVELOPERS, UM, THAT YOU, I MEAN, THAT ARE, ARE CONTACT FOR THE CITY.
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YOU AND, UM, BEN, I KNOW YOU HAVE THAT IN YOUR, UM, BLACK BOOK.UM, YOU MEAN THAT WILL REALLY BE ENCOURAGED, YOU KNOW, WITH THESE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE ARE PROVIDING THEM AS WELL.
UM, IN ORDER FOR US TO HAVE THIS, UM, YOU KNOW, MEAN, UM, HOME OWNERSHIP OR THIS BUILDING WE'RE NOT BUILDING.
THAT'S WHY THERE'S A SHORTAGE.
AND WE HAVE THE LAND THAT ARE JUST VACANT THERE THAT ARE YOU I, AND NOT CREATING AS WEALTH AS WELL.
SO I THINK THIS PROGRAM WILL HELP US, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S A, IT'S A GIVE AND TAKE, RIGHT? SO HOPEFULLY THOSE DEVELOPERS WILL COME, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON THE PACKAGES THAT WE ARE GOING TO PROVIDE THEM WITH THE RFP.
I LOOK FORWARD TO YOU AND MAYBE HAVING A VISIT TO ALL THESE FIVE, UM, PROPERTIES THAT WE HAVE, UH, WITH THE DEVELOPERS AND WITH THE, UH, UH, PEOPLE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE STAKEHOLDERS, UH, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, TO SHOW THEM, TO ENCOURAGE THEM THAT, HEY, WE HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY, SO LET'S WORK TOGETHER.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, UM, DIRECTOR, UM, AGUIRE AND, UM, UM, ANGELITA, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
UH, OUR, UH, CONSULTANTS, UM, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO YOU AND MOVE FORWARD AS FAST AS WE CAN.
WITH THAT, CAN WE HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE REPORT, MR. CHAIR? SECOND.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
MOTION BY IMANI SECOND BY, PUSH IT THROUGH THERE OR PUSH IN.
I THINK I SECONDED, BUT IT DOESN'T SHOW UP.
MOTION APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY WE'LL EXPECT BACK REPORT COMING BACK THEN, UH, WITH ALL THESE VARIOUS DIFFERENT PROPOSALS AND, UH, IT OUGHT TO BE A FUN MATRIX.
UM, WITH THAT, UH, WE'LL ADJOURN THE, UH, THE WORKSHOP AND WE WILL, IT'S GONNA TAKE PROBABLY A GOOD FIVE MINUTES TO SWITCH THE COMPUTER OVER AND FOR US TO GET ALL OF OUR STUFF BACK IN HERE AND TO START THE COUNCIL MEETING.