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OKAY, EVERYBODY, IT'S FOUR O'CLOCK.WE, WE GONNA, WE GONNA CALL THE MEETING
[Parks Recreation & Senior Citizens Advisory Committee (PRSCAC) on November 21, 2024.]
THE ORDER.WE GOING TO FIRST GET THE PLEASURE OF ALLEGIANCE OUT OF THE WAY.
CAN WE, CAN WE GET A LITTLE SOMETHING TO BEGIN UNITED STATES OF AMERICA FOR ALL? FOR ALL.
JOANNE, YOU GOING DO THE, UH, ROLL CALL? UH, YES PLEASE.
SO WE HAVE MR. CRAWFORD HERE PRESENT.
AND, UM, MS. LATOYA, TANYA IS NOT HERE.
DO MR. CRAWFORD, WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO THE ASK IF THERE'S ANY NON AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENTS? OKAY.
IS THERE, IS THERE ANY NON AGENDA COMMENTS? WE GOT THREE MINUTES.
ANYTHING NEW GOING THROUGH YOUR MIND? THERE'S NO PUBLIC, THAT'S WHERE SOMEONE WAS HERE, RIGHT? HUH? I THINK THAT'S, IF SOMEONE WAS HERE.
SO WE GET APPROVAL OF THE MEETINGS FROM THE LAST MEETING.
I'M GOING TO TABLE 'EM FOR THE NEXT MEETING.
I'LL SEND THEM OUT IN ADVANCE SO YOU ALL HAVE PLENTY OF TIME TO REVIEW.
SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR A PRESENTATION FROM S PALMER WHO, YES.
SO IT'S NOT A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION.
I WILL BE PROVIDING SOME, UH, FEEDBACK, FEEDBACK ON SOME OF THE CITY STAFF'S BEEN WORKING ON AND EXOS THE CURRENT POOL OPERATOR.
UM, SO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE AGREEMENT.
THE EXOS, UM, AGREEMENT HAS BEEN IN EFFECT FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS, AND THE POOL WAS CLOSED DURING CONSTRUCTION.
SO DURING THAT TIME, EXOS MANAGEMENT TEAM, UM, RECRUITED AND RETAINED STAFFING AND WORKED TO, WORKED WITH THE CONTRACTORS REGARDING SOME OPERATIONAL NEEDS, UH, AS PART OF THEIR PLANNING.
UM, CURRENTLY THE CITY HAS ALLOCATED $3,080, EXCUSE ME, 300,000, $380,000 FOR THE EXO SCHOOL CONTRACT.
AND THAT IS AN ANNUAL, UM, EXPENDITURE THAT COMES OUT OF THE COMMUNITY SERVICES BUDGET.
IT PAYS FOR A MANAGEMENT FEE FOR THE MANAGEMENT OF THE POOL.
SO, UM, DYLAN, WHO'S THE AQUATICS MANAGER, AND THEN ALSO THE EXOS FEE.
UM, AND THEN IT PAYS FOR THE LIFEGUARDS.
SO THE STAFFING, IT ALSO PAYS FOR MATERIALS AND SUPPLIES.
SO IF WE NEED NEW DIVING BOARDS, UH, FLAGS, UH, SWIM BOARDS, GOGGLES, UM, EXCUSE ME, NOT GOGGLES, BUT SWIM BOARDS.
UM, WE, WE GO THROUGH EXOS, THEY ORDER 'EM IN BULK AND WE GET A REDUCED RATE FOR THOSE.
SO EXOS, BECAUSE THEY MANAGE MULTIPLE POOLS, THEY WILL HAVE A, KINDA LIKE A WAREHOUSE AND THEN THEY BUY MULTIPLES IN MASS QUANTITY.
AND THEN THE CITY IS, UH, CHARGED A LESSER FEE FOR THOSE ITEMS THAN IF WE WERE TO GO MYSELF, WE WERE TO GO TO THE STORE AND BUY THEM.
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TO GO TO, UM, AN AQUATIC STORE TO BUY THOSE.THE OTHER FEES THAT, UM, COME IN ARE, UM, ON THE REVENUE SIDE.
WE GET BACK, UM, RIGHT NOW ABOUT $200,000 FOR REVENUE.
UM, WHEN THIS, THIS IS WHEN THE POOL IS AT FULL OPENING CAPACITY.
UM, THE REVENUE IS FOR LANE RENTALS FOR HIGH SCHOOL SWIM MEETS, UM, OR DAILY SWIMMERS OPEN SWIM.
AND AS YOU CAN TELL, THERE'S A DIFFERENCE IN THAT.
SO IT'S A COMMUNITY SERVICE AND THAT COMES OUT OF THE COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT.
WHAT WE'RE BEING PRESENTED WITH TODAY, AND WHY I WANTED TO BRING, BRING THIS TO YOUR ATTENTION IS THAT THE EXOS HAS BEEN OPERATING THE POOL, BUT THE POOL HASN'T BEEN OPEN FOR A FULL FISCAL YEAR YET.
SO WE HAVEN'T SEEN THE TRUE REVENUE REPORT FOR A FISCAL YEAR BECAUSE THE POOL OPENED IT BACK UP AFTER CONSTRUCTION IN NOVEMBER OF 2023.
AND SINCE THEN THERE HAVE BEEN MULTIPLE POOL CLOSURES.
THE POOL ITSELF IS BRAND NEW, BUT THE INTERIOR WORKINGS ARE NOT BRAND NEW.
SO IT'S LIKE A, UH, NEW CAR WITH AN OLD ENGINE.
UM, AND BECAUSE THE POOL WAS CLOSED FOR SO LONG, SOME OF THE, UH, PIPES ARE OLDER AND THEY'VE GOT JUST DEBRIS STUCK IN 'EM.
SO WE'VE EXPERIENCED A LOT OF POOL CLOSURES.
THE HEATER HAS BROKE, UM, OUR PUMP ROOM, WE'VE HAD SOME PUMP ISSUES.
WE ARE PLANNING TO CLOSE THE POOL, THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, AND THE COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT, UH, JANUARY AND FEBRUARY, AND DO SOME PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE SO THAT WE CAN, UH, AVOID THESE TYPE OF UNFORESEEN CLOSURES IN THE FUTURE.
UM, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, PERFECT STORM, WE HAVE THE EXOS AGREEMENT COMING UP FOR EITHER RENEWAL OR, OR, UM, GOING TO COUNCIL TO SEE IF IT WANTS TO BE RENEWED OR NOT.
I JUST WANTED TO GET SOME FEEDBACK FROM THE COUNCIL ON YOUR THOUGHTS MOVING FORWARD AND, UM, HOW YOU SEE AS RESIDENTS, THE POOL OPERATIONS.
HAS THERE BEEN ANY ANALYSIS DONE, UH, TAKING CONTRACT VERSUS MAINTAINING THE POOL DIRECTLY, UH, HIRING AND HIRING THAT MAINTENANCE, ET CETERA? YES.
UM, WE COMPARED, UH, AND THIS, THIS WAS DONE RATHER RECENTLY, WE COMPARED IT WITH THE CITY OF LA MESA BECAUSE IT IS GENERALLY, UM, THE SAME SIZE AND POPULATION CITY-WISE.
AND, UH, LA MESA HAS ONE POOL, JUST LIKE WE HAVE ONE POOL.
AND I CAN BRING BACK THOSE NUMBERS, BUT I DID DO AN ANALYSIS, UM, AND IT IS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN HAVING A CONTRACTOR.
AND THAT IS BECAUSE, UM, THE CITY PAYS, UH, THE BENEFITS OF THE BURDEN OF BENEFITS.
AND, UM, AND WITH THE EXOS, THEY'RE NOT PAYING FOR THOSE SAME BENEFITS.
IS THAT THE ONLY, IS THAT THE ONLY DIFFERENCE THERE? YES, THAT IS, THAT'S THE MAJOR, UM, EXPENDITURE.
OTHERWISE, UM, WE DO, WE, WE SPEND FUNDS ON THINGS LIKE, UM, OUR REGISTRATION SYSTEM, BUT THE OTHER CITIES DO THE SAME THING.
I LOOKED AT, UM, CARLSBAD BECAUSE I, IN PARTICULAR, I WORK THERE AND I KNOW HOW THEIR POOLS OPERATE.
UM, THEY'RE USUALLY IN THE NEGATIVE SOMEWHERE AROUND THE, THE NUMBER OF FOUR TO $500,000 EACH YEAR.
AND THAT IS THE, THAT IS ACROSS THE BOARD WITH OCEANSIDE AND THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO.
CITY OF SAN DIEGO OPERATES, I WANNA SAY IT'S 21 POOLS IN THEIR SYSTEM.
AND THEY DO SEASONAL CLOSURES, UH, BUT THEY ALSO RUN AS A COMMUNITY SERVICE.
SO THEY'RE, THEY ARE NOT COST NEUTRAL AND THEY ALWAYS, UM, THEY ALWAYS EXPEND MORE THAN THEY GENERATE UNDERSTAND.
SOMETHING OUR DEPARTMENT DOES NOT PAY FOR IN COMMUNITY SERVICES.
WE, WE DON'T PAY THE BILL FOR THE HEAT, THE GAS, AND WE DON'T PAY FOR THE CHEMICALS.
SO THAT'S, THAT IS FACILITATED BY THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AND PUBLIC WORKS.
UM, BUT I CAN PULL THOSE NUMBERS TOO AND, AND PROVIDE THEM TO THE GROUP SO THAT WAY WE HAVE AN
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ESTIMATE OF THE TRUE COST OF OPERATING IT WITH EXOS AND THE TRUE COST FOR OPERATING IT WITHOUT, I THINK OUR BIGGEST STRUGGLE WOULD PROBABLY BE OR RETAINING STAFF.UH, AND, AND WHAT'S THE, UH, WHAT'S THE PLAN WITH, I KNOW YOU SAID THERE'S, THERE'S SOME MAINTENANCE SCHEDULED IN THE FUTURE OR NEAR FUTURE.
UH, IS THAT JUST PREVENTATIVE, WE'RE STILL GONNA KEEP THE OLD MOTOR RUNNING? OR IS THERE A PLAN TO SWAP EVERYTHING OUT? LIKE IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN?
SO MOST OF THE ITEMS WOULD BE BRAND NEW.
WHAT'S THE COST OF THAT? I DON'T HAVE THE COST FOR THAT.
YEAH, THAT WOULD, THAT, UM, I'LL ASK THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT FOR THE COST OF THAT.
AND I KNOW THAT IT HAS TO BE DONE.
UM, AND IT WOULD BE, I THINK TO THE BENEFIT OF THE COMMUNITY IF IT COULD BE DONE JUST AT ONCE.
I KNOW THEY'RE GONNA PUT A BANDAID ON SOMETHING THAT, I MEAN, THEY DIDN'T LEARN THEIR LESSON THE FIRST TIME AND THEY'RE STILL DOING IT.
THEY SHOULD JUST DO IT ALL TOGETHER.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR INPUT.
YEAH, I MEAN, IT SOUNDS LIKE THE CONTRACT SOUNDS LIKE THE WAY TO GO.
I MEAN, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE GONNA BANK ON, SO IF YOU LET SOMEONE ELSE TAKE THE BURDEN, BY ALL MEANS LET THEM.
ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? WELL, I GOT, I GOT INPUT.
I WENT TO LOS PALM, I LOOKED AT THE LOCATION AND IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PLACE TO BE, YOU KNOW, GOT A LOT OF GOOD STUFF THERE.
IN TERMS OF THE CONVERSATION TODAY, I THINK WE SHOULD, Y'ALL SHOULD REVIEW THE SET BUDGET THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE AND LOOK AT THE FORECAST FOR THE UPCOMING YEARS, BECAUSE THINGS ARE DEFINITELY GOING TO CHANGE.
AND A FEASIBILITY STUDY FOR THE CHANGE WOULD BE TO OUR ADVANTAGE IN TERMS OF THE NEW LEADERSHIP THAT WE GOT COMING IN THE, FROM THE WHITE HOUSE.
DECEMBER 3RD, THE CONTRACT WILL GO TO CITY COUNCIL FOR THEIR, UH, DETERMINATION.
WELCOME TO COME AND SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS WITH WHAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT HERE TODAY.
JUST, WE JUST INPUT THAT AS A RESPONSE FROM PARK AND RECREATION SENIOR CITIZEN ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO MAKE A, A STAFF REPORT AND INCLUDE THE RECOMMENDATION IF, IF, IF, IF I'M CORRECT IN THIS, BUT THE RECOMMENDATION TO EXTEND THE AGREEMENT.
A, A RECOMMENDATION TO FORECAST THE UPCOMING, UH, ADVERSITIES THAT ARE GOING TO COME IN TERMS. OKAY.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
EVEN THOUGH THE MONEY IS THERE AND IT'S GOING TO BE, IT HAS A CERTAIN GUARANTEE, A FINANCIAL FORECAST SHOULD BE STUDIED TO SEE WHAT ADVERSITIES MIGHT, MAY, MAY NOT COME OUR WAY BECAUSE THINGS ARE GONNA CHANGE.
IF WITH THE TIMELINE OF THE CONTRACT EXPIRING DECEMBER 31ST, I DON'T THINK OF, I DON'T THINK THEY'D BE ABLE TO GATHER, UH, LIKE A PROFESSIONAL, UM, CONSULTANT TO COME IN AND DO A FEE STUDY.
UHHUH,
ALLOCATION WELL, BUT THEN NEXT RENEWAL, YOU KNOW HOW TO SAY IT.
BUT IT, IT WOULDN'T MAKE SENSE BECAUSE IT, WE LOSE EVERY YEAR PROFIT.
IT IS NOT A PROFITABLE, UM, SERVICE THAT'S PROVIDED THROUGH THE CITY.
IT IS BASICALLY A SERVICE THAT'S PROVIDED
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AND IT, IT'S A KNOWN LOSS, SOMETHING.SO THE, THE FOLLOWING YEAR DOESN'T MATTER.
IT IS A LOSS EVERY YEAR, UNLESS MIRACULOUSLY EVERYONE DECIDES TO PUT THEIR KIDS IN AND REGISTERS THEM.
AND THEN
SO IT IS, IT, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO DO ANY TYPE OF, OF C STUDY BECAUSE IT OKAY.
I, I KEEP FORGETTING THIS IS NOTATING.
SO I THINK, I THINK THE, WELL, I DON'T WANNA FIX MYSELF, BUT I THINK IT, IT SOUNDS LIKE GETTING A CONTRACT MAKES THE MOST SENSE.
IT, THEY'RE GONNA GET THAT ASSUMING THEY DON'T SKYROCKET THE NEW CONTRACT
AND THEY COULD, THEY COULD DECIDE THAT, UM, IT COULD BE DECIDED THAT THE CONTRACT, YOU KNOW, IF IT WERE PUT IN AN AMENDMENT TO ASK FOR TWO YEARS OF THE CONTRACT, THE COUNCIL COULD COME BACK AND SAY, NO, WE WANNA JUST GO YEAR BY YEAR, YEAR EVALUATE.
SO IN JULY, JULY AND THIS YEAR I COULD BE COMING BACK AND SAYING, FOLKS, WHAT DO YOU THINK FOR THE NEXT SIX MONTHS? AND THAT SORT OF THING.
SO YES, GET AHEAD OF, GET AHEAD OF THE GAME.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE, UM, PARK AND RECREATION SENIOR CITIZENS COMMITTEE WOULD SUPPORT THE POSSIBLE RENEWAL OF THE CONTRACT YEAH.
JUST A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT EXO.
SO THE CITY BARGAINS AND GOOD FAITH WITH THEM FOR, FOR CERTAIN TERM, OR, OR CAN THEY JUST GO, DO THEY GO YOUR BUDGET? SO THE, THEY'LL, THEY'LL SET UP A CONTRACT AND THE CONTRACT WILL, UM, PUT IN SPECIFIC TERM LENGTH OF THE TERM.
THEY'LL SAY IT'S A TWO YEAR TERM, AND THEN THEY'LL PUT THE OPTION TO EXTEND FOR A SPECIFIC AMOUNT OF TIME AFTER.
SO RIGHT NOW THERE IS AN EXISTING CONTRACT.
THE CONTRACT ITSELF EXPIRES DECEMBER 31ST OF THIS YEAR, BUT THERE IS IN THAT SAME, VERY SAME CONTRACT, THE OPTION TO EXTEND.
SO THEN THAT WAY THE OPTION TO EXTEND ONLY GOES ONE OR TWO TERMS. SO IF EACH TERM'S TWO YEARS, IT COULD POSSIBLY GO FOUR YEARS.
UM, AND EVERY TWO YEARS WE GO BACK TO COUNCIL.
AND, UM, AT ANY TIME, THE COUNCIL ALSO COULD MAKE THE DETERMINATION THAT THEY'RE GOING TO VOID THE CONTRACT IF IT, IF THEY ARE NOT, IF EXOS IS NOT WITHHOLDING THEIR, UM, DEPARTMENT.
THEY'RE NOT IN GOOD STANDING OR, UM, THE OPERATIONS HAVE NOT MET THE AGREEMENT.
IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN, I MEAN, MAYBE THEY SHOULD TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT AND GET THE POOL FIXED BEGINNING OF THE YEAR AND THEN JUST REDO A CONTRACT WITH THEM AFTER THE REPAIRS HAVE BEEN MADE.
SO WE DON'T PAY SIX MONTHS OR NO MANAGEMENT OF THE POOL WHATSOEVER.
UM, I MEAN, IS THERE ANY POSSIBILITY TO PUT THAT CONTRACT ON HOLD IF THAT'S THE CASE, THAT WAY THAT MONEY CAN BE ALLOCATED TO FIXING THE POOL IN THE FIRST PLACE?
AND THE ONLY CHALLENGE THAT WAS PRESENTED WAS THAT, UM, IF SAY WE CLOSED DOWN JANUARY AND FEBRUARY AND THE, UM, THE, UH, UPGRADES ONLY TAKE FOUR WEEKS AND BY FEBRUARY 1ST WE WERE READY TO REOPEN A MONTH EARLIER THAN EXPECTED, WE WOULDN'T HAVE A CONTRACT IN PLACE TO THEN SAY GO PROGRAM.
HAVE THEY EVER DONE A REPAIR THAT'S GONE LESS THAN SPECIFIED TIME? NO.
YEAH, NO, IT'S GOOD, GOOD TO EXPLORE THIS.
IT'S JUST ROLE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I DON'T SEE THE CITY REALLY MOVING TO GET THINGS DONE IN A TIMELY MANNER.
I DON'T SEE HOW, YOU KNOW, SWAPPING OUT THE OLD POOL OF EQUIPMENT WOULD BE ANY DIFFERENT.
I THINK WITH LEAD TIMES TOO, GETTING SUPPLIES IN, WE'VE SEEN LONGER, THE LONGEST LEAD TIMES, EVEN JUST WITH MATERIALS AND SUPPLIES WE USE FOR THE YOUTH PROGRAMS, WE'RE SEEING LONGER LEAD TIMES.
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YEAH.UM, AND AND TO YOUR POINT, I'M WONDERING IF WITH THE CONTRACT, IF THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO EFFECTIVELY MAKE THE CONTRACT EFFECTIVE JANUARY 1ST, BUT THEN REDUCE THE MANAGEMENT FEE, OR, UM, WELL, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO PAY FOR LIFEGUARDS.
'CAUSE LIFEGUARDS WOULDN'T BE ON, BUT SOMETHING LIKE THE MANAGEMENT FEE, IF THEY'D REDUCE THAT OR, OR JUST, OR MAKE THE RENEWED CONTRACT EFFECTIVE DATE FURTHER OUT, YOU KNOW, MARCH 1ST OR WHATEVER, HOWEVER LONG THE CITY'S EXPECTED TO MAKE THE REPAIR.
THE ONLY PREDICAMENT IS IF SAY WE WERE TO OPEN MARCH 1ST TO THE PUBLIC, THE POOL'S OPEN AND WE HAVE THE CONTRACT I, THEY WOULD NEED, THEY'D NEED TIME TO HAVE THE OPERATIONS GOING.
SO THE WEBSITE AND THE REGISTRATION SYSTEM AND THEN THE SCHEDULING OF THEIR STAFF.
BECAUSE I THINK THAT WOULD BE OUR BIGGEST CHALLENGE.
WHICH WOULD BE PROBABLY PART OF, ALL RIGHT, WELL, LITERAL ENJOY PERHAPS WHEN I SUGGESTED FEASIBILITY STUDY WAS TOO EXTREME.
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT WE'VE JUST DONE, WE REVIEWED IT AND WE ANTICIPATING ADVERSITIES, WHY NOT SOMEONE LOOK AHEAD AS WELL AS LOOK BACK AND SEE THAT WE DON'T BE REDUNDANT IN OUR ACTIVITY BECAUSE WE DONE THESE, THESE ISSUES.
WE TALKED ABOUT 'EM SEVERAL YEARS AGO AND THOSE SAME ISSUES ARE STILL ON THE TABLE.
SO SOMEWHERE, SOMEBODY WITH THAT, THAT GOT THE KIND OF KNOWLEDGE SHOULD TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND PREVENT ALL OF THESE BUMPS IN THE ROAD YEAH.
I'M, I'M NOT, PERHAPS I'M NOT USING THE RIGHT TERMINOLOGY, BUT I THINK YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I MEAN.
OH, I DO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU MEAN.
WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO, UM, GET OUR HEADS ABOVE WATER.
NO, THAT'S, UM, MAYBE COME UP WITH, YOU KNOW WHAT, THAT MAKES SENSE.
UH, MAYBE COME UP WITH A FULL OPERATIONAL PLAN.
UM, HOW, HOW ABOUT, UH, IF THERE'S ANY LIKE, UH, OPPORTUNITY FOR LIKE COMPANIES OUT THERE TO SPONSOR, LIKE THEY DO THE BASEBALL TEAMS. UM, DO WE, DO WE HAVE THAT IN PLACE? LIKE SELECT WE CAN, UH, NOT BURDEN THE COST AS MUCH FROM THERE ON AS WELL? UH, YOU KNOW, I GUESS, YEAH.
YOU KNOW, YOU BRING UP A REALLY GOOD POINT.
SO WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE A SPONSORSHIP POLICY.
I CAN BRING BACK A POLICY DRAFT TO GO TO COUNCIL, UM, REGARDING, UM, I DON'T WANNA SAY SIGNAGE 'CAUSE I DON'T WANT THAT TO IMPACT ATHLETIC FIELDS, BUT MAYBE SOMETHING FOR, UM, THAT WOULD BE MORE FOR THE CLUB OR THE TEAM OR WHATEVER USING THE FACILITY WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE FOR THE FACILITY ITSELF.
YOU GET WHAT I'M SAYING? RIGHT? LIKE, YOU KNOW, SOCCER TEAM GETS IT.
PERHAPS GRANT LOOKING INTO GRANTS.
I THINK THERE WAS GOOD SUGGESTION.
JUST FOR EVERYTHING THAT'S ON THE TABLE, IT JUST NEEDS TO BE REVIEWED BY YOURSELF AND NA NAIDA.
ADA, IF, IF ONCE Y'ALL REVIEW IT, THE COMMENTS HERE, Y'ALL WILL BE ABLE PUT IT IN THE PROPER PERSPECTIVE.
I COULD ALSO HAVE A, LIKE A ROUGH ESTIMATE BROUGHT BACK AND I COULD EMAIL THAT OUT BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING SO THAT WAY WE CAN, WE CAN HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING.
UH, SO WE WON'T HAVE A MEETING IN DECEMBER, BUT
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WE WILL IN JANUARY.SO, UM, I CAN STILL PROVIDE IT, EVEN, EVEN IF COUNSEL HAS REVIEWED IT THAT WAY, WE'RE READY FOR THE NEXT TIME THE AGREEMENT COMES UP.
AND, AND, AND COUNSEL MAY TAKE IT A DIFFERENT DIRECTION WHERE THEY DON'T MOVE FORWARD WITH THE AGREEMENT EITHER.
SEEING WE ARE DEALING WITH LOST UPON FOOD.
IS THIS THE ONLY ACCOUNT THAT THE COMMUNITY DESERVES NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT IN TERMS OF CHANGING, COMING UP? BECAUSE FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND FROM THE TOP, THINGS ARE GOING TO BE DISMANTLED AND BY THE TIME THEY FALL DOWN TO THE LOCAL NEIGHBORHOOD, WE SHOULD BE PREPARED FOR ANYTHING ARISES.
NOW, PARTICIPATION AS MR. PEREZ BROUGHT INTO IS A REASON WHY WE MIGHT NOT BE GETTING SO MUCH ACTION AT LOS PALM.
WE, WE ACTUALLY, WE HAVE WAIT LISTS.
WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INSTRUCTORS.
UM, SO WE HAVE ABOUT 25 PART-TIME LIFEGUARDS THAT HAVE BEEN SEASONAL AND COME BACK EVERY YEAR.
UM, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH, UM, LIFEGUARDS TO HOST ALL THE CLASSES.
SO AS, AS SOON AS WE CAN OPEN UP ANOTHER CLASS, SO WE HAVE A, IT'S CALLED HYDRO FIT, IT'S LIKE A WATER AEROBICS CLASS.
AND THEN WE HAVE YOUTH, UM, PROGRAMMING LIKE LEARN TO SWIM, AND THEN THEY, THEY HAVE THE CATEGORIES LIKE THE TADPOLE AND THE FROG.
UM, AND THOSE ALL HAVE WAIT LISTS.
NOW EXOS IS THE ONE WHO IS MANAGING THE STAFF.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, WE'RE LOSING MONEY BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT DOING THEIR JOB AS, AS STAFFING THE ADEQUATELY SO THAT WE CAN OPEN THESE PROGRAMS FOR THE COMMUNITY IF WE WERE TO DO IT OURSELVES.
UM, YEAH, THEY'RE DOING THEIR JOB, BUT RIGHT NOW THERE'S A NATIONAL LIFEGUARD SHORTAGE.
I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE LIFEGUARDS ARE GOING, BUT, UM, MUNICIPALITIES PAY MUCH LESS THAN STATE.
SO OUR STATE BEACHES, UM, LIFEGUARDS THAT ARE CERTIFIED, CERTIFIED FOR BEACHES GET PAID A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT MORE THAN THE LIFEGUARDS THAT ARE OVERSEEING POOLS.
AND SO, UM, PEOPLE THERE, THERE HAVE BEEN IN THE LAST, NOT LAST SUMMER, BUT THE PREVIOUS ONE, POOL CLOSURES DUE TO LIFEGUARD SHORTAGES, WE, WE, THE EXOS EVEN OFFERED TO TRAIN AND CERTIFY PEOPLE THAT WERE INTERESTED.
SO IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST NOT DOING THEIR JOB.
NO, I'D LET YOU KNOW FOR SURE.
BUT IT'S DEFINITELY NOT, WELL, FOR, FOR INSTANCE, UM, DO, DO THEY HAVE TO BE 18 OR OLDER? COULD THEY BE 16 AND 17 AS WELL? UH, BECAUSE THEY HIRE 16.
16 AND UP AND THEY TRAIN AND CERTIFY.
OKAY, BECAUSE I, I WAS GONNA MAKE A SUGGESTION.
UM, MAYBE, UH, THERE THERE'S DIFFERENT LEVELS OF JUNIOR LIFEGUARD PROGRAMS IN, IN IMPERIAL BEACH AND, AND SO, AND UH, MAYBE, UH, MAYBE THERE'S A CHANCE TO MAKE A PITCH TO, UH, THE IMPERIAL BEACH LIFEGUARDS TO UH, MAYBE ASK THEIR CAPTAINS AND THE CAPTAINS CLUBS, WHICH ARE 16, 17 YEAR OLDS, UH, TO SEE IF MAYBE THEY CAN JUMP ON, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, THE NATIONAL CITY POOL AND MAYBE CREATE A PROGRAM OUT OF THAT WITH THE LIFEGUARDS THERE, UH, TO GET THE KIDS PAID, ESPECIALLY DURING THE SUMMER.
YOU KNOW, MAYBE THEY COULD HAVE A LITTLE TO DO.
CAPTAIN'S CLUB, YOU SAID? YES.
IMPERIAL BEACH YOU SAID? AND SILVER.
ALRIGHT, WELL THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AND THEN, UM, SORRY, THAT IS IT FOR THE PRESENTATION, MR. CRAWFORD.
I THINK WE'VE GOT, UH, ACTION ITEMS. WE HAVE NONE.
I GOT, I GOT SOME ACTION ITEMS I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT.
THE, THE SUBJECT OF WHAT I'M GONNA SAY IS WE
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SPENT A LOT OF TIME LAST YEAR AND NOTHING GOT ACCOMPLISHED.EVERYTHING SEEMED LIKE IT'S JUST DISMANTLED.
I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU AND ZAIDA ZAIDA TO FOCUS ON THE FACT THAT WE NEED TO HAVE HONOR IN THE PARKLAND RECREATION SENIOR ADVISORY COMMITTEE, MERELY BECAUSE IT'LL BE A BINDING FORCE IF PEOPLE COME IN HERE AND THEY WANNA PARTICIPATE.
IF THEY SEE HONOR AT THIS TABLE, THEY WILL HAVE A COMMITMENT.
THEY'LL BE PERSISTENT AND THEY'LL ACT MORE AS A RE PRODUCTIVE CITIZEN.
SO, OTHER THAN THAT, I LIKE TO, I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE SELECT CHAIRPERSON AND VICE CHAIRPERSON.
AND FROM SITTING HERE TODAY AND ME FEELING THAT I, I'M COMMITTED TO THIS C COMMITTED, I LIKE TO RECOMMEND MR. PEREZ AND FERNANDEZ AS THE CHAIRMAN AND, AND CO-CHAIRMAN, BECAUSE I'M GONNA BE HERE.
I, I LIKE THE WAY THEY PRESENT THEMSELVES WHEN THEY'RE HERE.
SO MOVING FORWARD WITH SOME POSITIVE ENERGY, YOU AS WELL AS ZADA, Y'ALL CAN REVIEW THE SUGGESTION.
AND FOR NEXT YEAR, LET'S, LET'S GO WITH FORWARD MOTION INSTEAD OF STOP AND GO THE STOP AND GO.
WE'LL BE HERE NEXT CHRISTMAS AND WE'LL LOOK BACK AND NOTHING GOT DONE.
AND, AND I MIGHT STILL BE HERE, BUT I, THAT WON'T BE BECAUSE I FEEL THAT I'M WASTING MY TIME.
IT'D BE BECAUSE I'M, I'M LEARNING AS WE SIT HERE, THAT'S WHY I'M RECOMMENDING MR. PEREZ AND MR. FAN FERNANDEZ AS A CHAIR PERSON AND CO-CHAIR PERSON, BECAUSE I LIKE, I FEEL THAT I CAN LEARN A LOT FROM THEM AND PERHAPS MY TIME WILL COME WHERE I CAN ACTUALLY BE THE CHAIRPERSON AGAIN INSTEAD OF WOULD, UM, SO YOU'RE MAKING A MOTION TO HAVE AN ACTION ITEM FOR THE NEXT MEETING TO RIGHT.
MOTION MADE BY MR. CRAWFORD TO SELECT SELECT CHAIR, COACH CHAIR.
A CHAIR, CHAIRPERSON, AND CO-CHAIR.
FOR THE PARK AND RECREATION SENIOR CITIZEN ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
AND THAT WAS SECONDED BY MR. FERNANDEZ.
THAT WILL BE ON THE ACTION ITEMS. THANK YOU.
SHOULD I SUGGEST THAT WE STICK TO THIS AGENDA THAT WE ARE, THAT WE HAVE ALREADY CREATED? THAT WAY IF WE GET THIS DONE, WE CAN MOVE ON TO ANOTHER PROJECT.
BUT WHY LEAVE THIS PROJECT BEHIND WHEN IT'S, WHEN IT'S WELL DONE, PERHAPS? YEAH.
AT THE LAST MEETING, AT THE LAST MEETING THAT WAS TABLED, UH, THERE WAS A DISCUSSION TO TABLE IT BECAUSE WE WEREN'T READY TO GO TO COUNSEL.
SO NOW WE'VE GOT JANUARY 21ST AS THE PRESENTATION DATE FOR THAT DOCUMENT.
I GOING FORWARD, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'LL BE READY BECAUSE MR. PEREZ, HE'S NOT AS FAMILIAR WITH THIS AS FERNANDA.
AND WE NEED TO GET ON THE SAME PAGE.
SO TO PREMATURE SET A PRESENTATION DATE.
IS IT THE SAME PRESENTATION? HUH? IT'S A, WHAT IT IS, IS IT'S A REPORT TO COUNSEL, BUT WE DON'T GOT THE RIGHT PARTICIPANTS.
BUT THE TWO NEW FOLKS, THEY WEREN'T HERE.
BUT THEY CAN GET CAUGHT UP TO SPEED.
AND WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD DO THIS ANNUALLY.
WE SHOULD GO TO COUNCIL WITH THE REPORT
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OF THE COMMITTEE.RIGHT NOW, THIS IS JUST, WE SHOULD DO PREPARATION TO CARRY THIS FORWARD.
NOT SIT HERE AND SAY, WELL, WE GOING TO GO AND DO IT FEBRUARY WE'RE GOING TO DO IT, MARK, LET'S HAVE A COMMITMENT FROM THE INDIVIDUAL THAT'S GOING TO PARTICIPATE AND WE ALL BE, CAN CONFIDENTLY MOVE FORWARD.
BUT IN ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD, WE NEED THE OTHER TWO PEOPLE HERE.
AND WE NEED THEM TO, TO UNDERSTAND WHERE YEAH.
AND THEY'RE NOT HERE RIGHT NOW, CURRENTLY THE TWO NEW PEOPLE.
SO IN ORDER TO DO A PRESENTATION, WE NEED EVERYBODY UP TO SPEED AND EXACTLY.
ESPECIALLY AGAINST CITY COUNCIL.
YEAH, BECAUSE WE GO TO THEM, WE AIN'T PREPARED, WE NOT GONNA GET ANYTHING FROM THEM.
THEY, THEY, THEY, THE MASTERS OF GOOD AND BAD
SO TECHNICALLY, SO OUR NEXT PARK AND RECREATION SENIOR CITIZEN ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS ON THE 16TH.
AND THEN A COUPLE DAYS LATER, IT WOULD BE THE PRESENTATION.
MAY I MAKE A RECOMMENDATION? YES.
WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE DATES AGAIN? THE 16TH.
THE DATES ARE JANUARY 16TH FOR THE MEETING.
AND THEN THE COUNCIL MEETING, POTENTIAL PRESENTATION IS THE 21ST.
Y'ALL DON'T THINK WE EVEN SURE THAT WE HAD IT? WE HAD IT ORIGINALLY PLANNED ALREADY FOR NOVEMBER.
AND WE PUSHED IT BACK, BUT I'M, BUT NOW WE'RE PUSHING IT BACK AGAIN.
BUT YOU MENTIONED THAT WE'RE NOT GETTING ANYWHERE, SO, OKAY.
NOW MR. FERNANDEZ BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT.
THE PARTICIPANTS ARE NOT HERE.
EACH, EACH ISSUE HAS A PERSON THAT'S GOING.
AND MR. FERNANDEZ, HE POINTED OUT THAT ALL OF THOSE PARTICIPANTS ARE NOT HERE.
AND ORIGINALLY THERE WAS 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 5 PARTICIPANTS.
NOW, IF WE GOING TO DO JANUARY, MR. PEREZ, MR. FERNANDEZ, MYSELF AND YOU, JOANNE AND Z, WE ALL CAN TAKE ON A DIFFERENT PART OF IT.
THAT WAY WE CAN, WHEN WE GO IN, IF YOU, IF YOU ARE GOING TO PARTICIPATE, Z ZADA WAS GONNA PARTICIPATE, WE'LL HAVE MORE CL OR MM-HMM.
WELL, I MEAN, WE CAN EITHER ALL GO OR, I MEAN, BEING PRESENT, I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.
BUT IN TERMS OF DOING THE PRESENTATION, WE CAN HAVE ONE PERSON DO THE PRESENTATION AND GO THROUGH IT.
YOU GOTTA REMEMBER, WE GOTTA MAKE SURE WE WE DON'T LOSE THEM.
I, IF I UNDERSTAND MR. PEREZ, WE SHOULD GO FORWARD AND HAVE ONE PERSON PARTICIPATING AS A PRESENTER, IF THAT'S A, A MAJORITY RULE.
I THINK WE SHOULD PUT IT IN THE FORM OF A MOTION.
I THINK WE SHOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT MR. PEREZ PRESENTED
HE GOT, HE GOT A SCOPE ON THE PERSPECTIVE, AND PLUS I CAN LEARN A LOT FROM HIM.
SO IF, IF FOR SOME REASON JANUARY 21ST DOES NOT WORK FOR THE TEAM, LET ME KNOW, BUT LET'S CHARGE AHEAD.
SO WE GOT, WE ARE JUST GOING TO ALLOW MR. PEREZ TO DO HIS, UH, REHEARSAL OF THE PRESENTATION.
HE'LL DO, HE CAN DO IT AT THE NEXT MEETING WITH US.
I'LL BE OH, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.
THE NEXT, AND WE CAN CHIME IN AND YEAH.
HELP HIM, YOU KNOW, SUPPORT HIM IN ANY WAY.
THEN LET'S GO FOR JANUARY THE 21ST.
UNLESS HE WAS SAYING HE'S HE'S ANTICIPATING A COLD THAT DAY.
SO THEN MR. FERNANDEZ, WE'LL TAKE THIS PLACE.
AND IF, AND IF ANYTHING, UH, UNEXPECTED HAPPEN TO THEM,
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THEN I HAVE TO BE PREPARED TO DO IT.OR ONE GOOD, ONE OF ONE OF Z ITEM OR YOURSELF.
WE GOT, WE DON'T WANNA, LIKE YOU SAID, WHICH I'M GLAD YOU SAID IT, WE DON'T WANT TO KEEP PUTTING IT OFF.
AND, UH, WE'RE NEVER GONNA FEEL A HUNDRED PERCENT READY, BUT SOMETIMES JUST GETTING IN THERE AND, AND IT'S REALLY, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY DOING IT FOR RESULTS.
WE'RE DOING IT TO SHOW THE COUNCIL THAT WE ARE AN ACTIVE GROUP WHO, AND WE'RE MAKING EFFORTS TO MOVE FORWARD.
AND, AND, AND THAT IS A HUGE NECESSITY, UH, BECAUSE, UH, WHEN I TALKED TO, UM, A COUPLE OF COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, JUST FEW DAYS AGO, UM, THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH PARK AND REC AND THEY'RE OUT, THEY'RE, THEY'RE OUT OF TOUCH WITH US COMPLETELY.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT IS TIME TO JUST, WE JUST MAKE A STATEMENT.
I AGREE WITH MR. FERNAND AND ONE, I'VE BEEN HERE AND, UH, I DON'T SEE, NO, I SEE, I SEE A PLAN, BUT I DON'T, I DON'T SEE THE PARTICIPANTS.
THEY SAY THEY GOING TO BE HERE, THEN THEY DON'T SEE, LET'S GO FORWARD WITH WHAT WE GOT TODAY.
SO OUR PARKS, UH, FOR THE STAFF REPORT, OUR TEAM IS A NOT HERE.
I'LL MOVE ON TO THE RECREATION REPORT.
UM, OUR RECREATION REPORT IS, UH, CASA DE SALUD YOUTH CENTER IS HAVING FAMILY PORTRAITS THIS COMING SATURDAY.
FAMILIES CAN REGISTER ONLINE AND DOESN'T HAVE TO BE FAMILIES.
IT CAN TO BE INDIVIDUAL PORTRAITS, PROFESSIONAL PHOTOGRAPHER.
AND, UH, WE HAVE BASKETBALL CL OH, IS THAT HOLIDAY RELATED OR JUST GENERAL PICTURES? UH, THEY DO HAVE BACKGROUND.
AND IT CAN BE CHANGED INTO, UM, ANY GREEN SCREEN THEY WISH.
UM, AND WE HAVE BASKETBALL CLASSES AND YOGA AT CAMACHO HIP HOP AND FLASH MOB.
PRACTICING AT MLKA KIMBALL HOLIDAY WILL HAPPEN ON DECEMBER 14TH.
AND WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR VOLUNTEERS.
IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO VOLUNTEER, PLEASE CONNECT WITH ME.
WE'RE LOOKING FOR VOLUNTEERS FOR THE DAY OF THE EVENT.
AND, UM, THAT IS IT FOR THE RECREATION SENIOR PROGRAMS IS UP.
WHAT, WHAT'S THE DAY OF VOLUNTEERING? PARDON? 14TH.
YEAH, FOR KIMBALL HOLIDAY, DECEMBER 14TH.
SO OF, FOR SENIOR PROGRAMS THEMSELVES.
UM, WE RECENTLY HAD VERY EVENTFUL WEEKEND.
SO ON FRIDAY WE HAD A CELEBRATION.
UM, IT WAS RAINING AND IT WAS COLD.
UM, SO WE HAD ABOUT 70 INDIVIDUALS THAT CAME OUT AND ENJOYED THE ZJ AND JUST LIGHT REFRESHMENTS AND SNACKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, THERE WERE, IT WAS A FALL CELEBRATION, SO THERE WERE PUMPKINS THAT HAD BEEN DECORATED IN ONE OF OUR PROGRAMS PREVIOUSLY BY OTHER PARTICIPANTS.
SO PEOPLE WERE REALLY HAPPY CARRYING THIS LARGE PUMPKIN HOME.
AND THEN ON SATURDAY, UM, OUR DEPARTMENT ACTUALLY PAIRED UP WITH ARTS AND THERE WAS A STITCHING GENERATIONS EVENT.
UM, SO PEOPLE WERE OUT THERE CROCHETING.
SO YOU, IF YOU WALK BY ARTS, UM, IN FRONT WHERE THE TWO TREES ARE WITH THE BENCH, UM, THERE IS SOME CROCHETED ITEMS. IT'S YARN BOMBING, SO IT WAS PUT ON THE TRUNKS OF THE TREES AND YOU'LL SEE SOME LIKE LITTLE OCTOPUS HANGING FROM THE BRANCHES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
THERE WAS ALSO SOME NOTE CARDS MADE, UM, FROM PARTICIPANTS JUST SAYING HOW THEY FELT ABOUT THE PROJECT AND WHY THEY WERE EXCITED TO DO IT, BUT IT WAS OPEN TO THE COMMUNITY.
SO IT WAS JUST A LOT OF VERY, UM, INTERESTING INDIVIDUALS.
VARIOUS GENERATIONS WERE OUT THERE JUST DOING THE SAME THING.
AND IT'S GREAT BECAUSE THE CROCHET IS REALLY POPULAR.
AGAIN, WE HAVE THE YOUTH THAT ARE DOING IT.
WE HAVE OUR OLDER ADULTS THAT ARE DOING IT.
UM, IN ADDITION TO THOSE TWO EVENTS, UM, WE'VE ALSO SECURED TWO GRANTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY, UM, GONNA GO TO CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.
SO WE HAVE A NO SENIOR ALONE GRANT, AND THAT WOULD BE A $2,000 GRANT.
THE HOPE IS THAT OUR CROCHETING SENIORS FROM OUR MORNING
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SOCIAL PROGRAM, UH, CROCHETS SCARVES FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE GETTING HOME DELIVERED MEALS.SO THIS GRANT IN PARTICULAR IS TO GET, UH, TO OUTREACH TO INDIVIDUALS WHO DON'T REALLY COME TO OUR PROGRAMMING.
UM, SO WE ARE, UH, GONNA WORK WITH OUR NUTRITION CENTER.
THIS GOES THROUGH, UH, WE'RE GONNA WORK WITH OUR NUTRITION CENTER AND GO WITH 'EM DURING THE HOME DELIVERED MEALS PROCESS, SO THAT WAY WE CAN PROVIDE THEM WITH A HOLIDAY CARD AND A SCARF, UM, TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS.
AND WE ALSO SECURED A SHAPER GRANT, UM, WHICH IS, UH, THEY HAVE DIFFERENT PROGRAMMINGS, BUT WE USE THIS ONE SPECIFICALLY FOR WALK WITH EASE.
SO IT'S ONE OF THE PROGRAMS WHERE PEOPLE WOULD GO OUT TO THE PARK.
UM, THERE'S DIFFERENT LEARNING COMPONENTS WHEN IT COMES TO THAT.
THERE'S ALSO LIKE DIFFERENT LITTLE TESTS JUST TO SEE HOW PEOPLE ARE IMPROVING.
UM, BUT WE HAD A LOT OF SUCCESS STORIES FROM THE LAST TIME WE HAD THIS, AND WE'RE HOPING TO CONTINUE THAT AND ACTUALLY MAKE IT BIGGER.
UM, SO WE'RE PLAYING WITH TIMEFRAMES AND THAT KIND OF STUFF TO SEE MAYBE TO GET OUR, OUR PARTICIPANTS, OUR SENIORS AFTER THE NUTRITION CENTER, WE CAN KIND OF SCOOP THEM OVER TO THE PARK SO WE CAN GO WALK TOGETHER.
UM, BUT THAT'S A $2,500 GRANT AS WELL.
CAN I, I LIKE TO, UH, MAKE, PUT A, GIVE A INPUT TO YOUR PRESENTATION.
I DON'T KNOW IF THE COMMUNITY HEAR IT THROUGH A FLYER THROUGH WORD OF MOUTH, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THE PARTICIPATION IS NOT THERE.
I MEAN, EVEN THOUGH YOU SAY 70 PEOPLE, WHAT I NOTICE IS THAT PEOPLE ARE COMING AND GOING.
THEY'RE NOT COMING AND GOING TO MAKE IT WORK.
THEY'RE COMING AND GOING FOR THEIR OWN INTER MOTIVES.
WE NEED TO ESTABLISH A BINDING FORCE WHEN PEOPLE COME, LET'S LET 'EM KNOW THAT THIS IS MORE LIKE A MOVEMENT INSTEAD OF JUST A ONE WEEKEND PARTICIPATION.
BECAUSE WE, WE WANT TO, WE WANNA GO THROUGH NEXT YEAR WITH THE COMMUNITY AS A MOVEMENT, NOT AS, OH, I CAN COME IF I WANT.
I DON'T HAVE TO COME LIKE THAT.
WE, WE HAVE TO TRY TO INFORM THE COMMUNITY THAT THIS IS THE WAY IT CAN BE DONE.
BUT IT TAKE WHEN THEY SAY WE CAN, WE MEAN A LOT OF PEOPLE NOT 70 MM-HMM.
BUT I THINK THAT WE SHOULD TAKE AN ADDRESS, SOME TYPE OF ADVERTISEMENT TOWARD WE CAN AND, AND, AND BREAK WE CAN DOWN.
AND WHY NOT? HOW DID YOU HEAR ABOUT THE CELEBRATION? I DID.
HOW DID YOU HEAR? I HEARD IT THROUGH WORD OF ALL.
AND KIMMA TOWER IS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PLACES.
I THINK MORE PEOPLE WOULD PARTICIPATE IF THEY HAD KNOW ABOUT IT.
BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF WOMEN AND MEN THAT I COME IN CONTACT WITH HAD I HAVE OR WHAT, WHERE AND WENT I COULD ADDRESS IT TO THEM TOO AND MOTIVATE THEM TO COME.
SO THIS TIME AROUND, I BELIEVE IT WAS SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THIS FISCAL YEAR, UM, WE ONLY HAD TWO.
SO PREVIOUS TO THIS, THERE WAS A GRANT THAT WAS GREAT BECAUSE WE'RE ABLE TO MAKE THESE BIGGER AND MAKE THEM MONTHLY.
SO WE DID HAVE OVER A HUNDRED PEOPLE AT EACH OF THOSE EVENTS.
UM, SO I DO FEEL LIKE HAVING THEM JUST BE TWO OF THEM IN JUST DIFFERENT MONTHS AND NOT HAVING THEM BACK TO BACK DOES KIND OF CREATE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A DIFFICULTY FOR PEOPLE TO REMEMBER WHEN IT IS.
THE GOAL IS THAT ONCE THE SENIOR CENTER OPENS IS TO MAKE THEM MORE FREQUENT.
AND, UM, MAKE THEM AT A SPECIFIC TIMEFRAME.
SO IF WE'RE GONNA MAKE THEM ONCE A MONTH, BE ONCE A MONTH, IF IT'S GONNA BE, LET'S SAY THE LAST THURSDAY OF THE MONTH, THEN MAKE IT THE LAST THURSDAY OF THE MONTH.
SO IT CREATES THAT CONSISTENCY, RIGHT.
SO THAT MORE INDIVIDUALS ARE AWARE.
AND EVEN IF IT IS WORD OF MOUTH, IT'S STILL GETTING OUT THERE.
YOU, YOU, YOU KNOW, I'M GLAD GO AHEAD.
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NOW WITH THAT CONSISTENCY THAT, THAT WE'RE GONNA TRY TO GAIN, UH, AND, AND TO BRING PEOPLE IN, LIKE YOU WERE SAYING, UH, CAN WE DEFINITELY, LIKE, LIKE I NOTICED WHEN I WATCH LIKE, UH, KUSI OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, UM, THEY, THEY, LIKE WHEN YOU CALL 'EM, THEY, THEY PRETTY MUCH COME 'CAUSE IT'S EVERYTHING ABOUT SAN DIEGO AND ALL THAT.SO, UH, I MEAN WE, WE, WE BE ABLE TO GET A HOLD OF THEM AND JUST TRY TO, YOU KNOW, PROMOTE WHATEVER ACTIVITY OR WHATEVER, UM, YOU KNOW, THING IS GOING ON.
UH, WE CAN MAKE THAT MOVE WITH HIM OR WITH THEM OR, YOU KNOW, UH, SINCE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN NATIONAL CITY TUNE TO 92.5, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN GET MAYBE THE X MAN EXACTLY.
OR JAGGER AND CHRISSY OR, OR SOME ONE OF THOSE, YOU KNOW, UM, FOLKS THAT ARE IN THE MORNING TIME OR OR THE AFTERNOON TIME THAT, THAT EVERYBODY'S IN OUR CAR COMING BACK HOME.
UM, I I DON'T BELIEVE THEY CHARGE FOR THAT.
THAT'S A GREAT INGREDIENT TO A CELEBRITY TYPE OF PERSON OR THEME THAT ARE THAT, UH, ATTRACT THE PEOPLE AND THEN WE LAY ON THE WHAT, WHERE AND WHEN AND THE GOALS AND PURPOSES.
BECAUSE PEOPLE, PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR THE GOALS AND PURPOSES, YOU KNOW, THEY JUST, OH YEAH.
IF YOU TAKE AND CREATE IN THE, IN THE PRO IN THOSE PROJECTS, A FORM OF RECOGNITION.
SEE THAT'S A, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I BEEN, BEEN, BEEN WATCHING.
PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT, THEY PARTICIPATE, BUT THEY WANNA BE RECOGNIZED.
THEY'RE RECOGNIZED LIKE THE PHOTOGRAPHY THING.
THE PEOPLE TAKE A PICTURE OF THE PEOPLE WITH THE SERIALITY AND SHOW IT TO THE COMMUNITY AS A RESULT.
NOT JUST THE PRODUCT, BUT WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE RESULT? HOW CAN I GET IN INVOLVED WITH THE RESULTS OF SOMETHING GOOD.
UM, I HATE TO INTERRUPT, I HAVE TO LOG OFF, BUT I'LL LET ZIADE CONTINUE.
AND THEN MR. CRAWFORD, YOU'VE GOT, YOU'VE GOT THE BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS UP NEXT? YEAH, I GOT SOMETHING.
I HAVE TO GO GET A COUGH DROP.
AND GALS, YOU WANT, YOU WANT TO HEAR THIS ONE REAL QUICK? YOU'LL LIKE THIS ONE? YES, PLEASE.
SO, UH, TWO SATURDAYS AGO I HAD TO, UH, KICK SOMEONE OUT OVER AT LAS PALMAS.
THEY WERE SMOKING CRACK, UH, NEAR THE WOMEN'S BATHROOM.
SO I HAD A PARENT COME UP TO ME AND TELL ME THAT THEY WERE THERE SMOKING AT THE ENTRANCE.
AND UH, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT'S JUST THAT BATHROOM IS A HAVEN OR GOES ON, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GOT SOMETHING THAT'S RUN DOWN, IT ATTRACTS THAT TYPE OF SITUATIONS.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO HEAR THAT ONE.
I KNOW, UM, A COUPLE OTHER THINGS.
UM, THERE, THERE'S, THERE ARE TREES BLOCKING THE LIGHTS AT THE EAST FIELD AND THE WESTFIELD I SPOKE WITH, UH, I SENT VICTOR A MESSAGE REGARDING THAT.
UM, SO WE JUST NEEDED, EXCUSE ME, TO TRIM BACK, GETTING A SHADOW OVER THE FIELD.
UM, AND THEN I DID SEE THE ARTICLE IN IE SOURCE REGARDING THE A A D, UM, THE PRESENTATION THAT WAS DONE HERE.
YOU AWARE OF THAT ARTICLE THAT CAME OUT? YEAH, SO I JUST, I SAW THAT, UM, AND JUST WANTED TO MAKE MENTION OF IT THAT THEY DID MENTION THIS THERE AS WELL, SO.
THANK YOU MUCH LIKE, GUYS, A QUESTION.
YOU OKAY, JOAN DON GO
UM, ANYWAYS, THE ARTICLES CAME OUT.
I, WE, THE ARTICLES I DID NOT.
SO THOSE ARTICLE THERE, WHICH, UM, I GUESS THEY ASKED, JOAN HAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS ON IT, BUT THEY DID SAY THAT, UM, WHERE IS IT? I THINK THEY SAID THAT, LEMME FIND IT REAL QUICK.
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SOMEWHERE IN HERE IT SAYS THAT WE, THIS COMMITTEE.WHERE DID YOU FIND IT? IT'S ON IU SOURCE.
ANYHOW, IT READS, UH, THE DEPARTMENT.
IT SAYS RIGHT HERE THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S PROPOSAL, WHICH INCLUDED A REQUEST FOR FUNDING TO APPLY FOR GRANTS THAT WOULD PAY FOR THE, WHICH I DON'T RECALL SAYS, WHICH INCLUDED A REQUEST FOR FUNDING TO APPLY FOR THE GRANTS.
DO YOU RECALL THAT PIECE? NO, NOT APPLY.
THAT WAS THE PIECE I WANTED YOU TALKING ABOUT THE PRESENTATION THAT WAS HERE THE OTHER DAY.
YEAH, BUT THEY, THEY SAID, IT SAYS, IT SAID HERE AGAIN, OTHER COMMITTEE MEMBERS EXPRESSED SUPPORT FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S PROPOSAL, WHICH INCLUDED A REQUEST FOR FUNDING TO APPLY FOR THE GRANTS.
WHY WOULD YOU HAVE FUNDING TO APPLY FOR A GRANT? YES.
I DON'T ANY THAT, THAT PART STUCK OUT TO ME.
YEAH, WE, WE, WE, WE KEEP THAT WHOLE CARD ANYWAY, WE, WE, WE, WE SAW THAT THEY WAS JUST DOING IT FOR THEIR OWN INNER MOTIVE AS OPPOSED TO CORRECT.
AND NOW IT'S SEEING THEY'RE REQUESTING FUNDS.
SO ANYHOW, I CAN REACH OUT TO THEM AND, AND, AND TELL YEAH, THEY WAS HERE YESTERDAY.
I, I, I HAPPENED TO COME, I THOUGHT YESTERDAY WAS THE DATE AND THEY WAS IN HERE.
SAME LADY AND ANOTHER ONE THEY WAS IN HERE GIVING THAT PRESENTATION YESTERDAY.
TO WHO? I I THOUGHT IT WAS ONE OF THOSE, THE CITY COUNCIL LADY.
SO ANYWAY, THAT, THAT KIND OF IS, I DON'T RECALL THEN WERE YOU HERE FOR THAT PRESENTATION? I DON'T THINK I WAS.
OKAY, I'LL CHECK IT OUT THOUGH.
I'LL, I'LL LOOK FOR THE ARTICLE AND I'LL BRING IT UP TO JOANNE JUST TO CLARIFY THAT SECTION.
IT WAS THE LAST MEETING YOU DID, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO YOU SAID IT, IT SAYS REQUEST FOR FUNDING TO APPLY GRANT.
IT SAYS THE DEVICE TALKS ABOUT 1500 E WHICH COMMITTEE MEMBER SAID IT IS VERY, VERY AMENABLE, WHICH THAT'S OKAY.
MCGEE AND OTHER COMMITTEE MEMBERS EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S PROPOSAL, WHICH INCLUDES A REQUEST FOR FUNDING TO APPLY FOR THE GRANTS.
WHO, TO ME, THAT'S STATING THAT WE NEED TO FUND THEM IN ORDER FOR THEM TO APPLY TO THE GRANTS.
SO WE'RE ALREADY GIVING THEM MONEY.
THAT, THAT'S HOW, WELL NOT ONCE DID WE TALK WITH THAT.
BUT ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT UP.
BUT THEY, THEY, THEY CAME TO ASK OUR SUGGESTIONS AND APPROVAL THOUGHTS FOR, AND WE, WHEN WE TALKED TO THEM SAID, I, WE TOLD 'EM YEAH, IT SOUNDS GOOD OUT FRONT, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE Y'ALL DOING THIS MORE FOR Y'ALL INNER MOTIVE THAN FOR THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE THE WINDOWS OF, UM, OPPORTUNITY IS WHAT PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR.
THEY, THEY GEAR IT TO HELPING THE COMMUNITY, BUT IT IS MORE FOR SELF-GRATIFICATION.
SO I'LL CHECK OUT THE ARTICLE AND THEN I'LL CHECK TOO BECAUSE ALL THE MEETINGS ARE RECORDED.
SO I'M GONNA HOP ON THERE TOO AND SEE WHERE YEAH.
I WONDER IF IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN.
WE'LL DIG IN A LITTLE BIT INTO THAT.
YOU WANNA TURN THIS? SHOULD WE GOOD? YEAH.
ALRIGHT, LET'S, LET'S, UM, THANK THE LORD FOR US ALL COMING TOGETHER.
HOPEFULLY WE CUT, GET TOGETHER AGAIN AND WE ARE OUTTA HERE.