* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. ALRIGHT. [00:00:05] ALRIGHT. THANK YOU [1. CALL TO ORDER] EVERYONE FOR BEING HERE. AND AS A REMINDER, IF YOU'D PLEASE SILENCE, UH, ALL CELL PHONES AND DEVICES WITHIN THE, UH, CHAMBER. AND, UH, UM, OKAY. BEFORE WE PROCEED, I, UH, REQUEST THAT THE INTERPRETER TAKE A MOMENT TO EXPLAIN THE CITY'S INTERPRETATION SERVICES THAT WILL BE OFFERED FOR THIS EVENING'S CITY COUNCIL MEETING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MAYOR, AND THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU. UM, WE HAVE A REQUEST. UH, IT'S AN AB 24 49 REQUEST TO ATTEND VIRTUALLY BY A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER. UH, WE HAVE RECEIVED A REQUEST FROM VICE MAYOR YAMANI, UH, OF THE NEED TO PARTICIPATE REMOTELY. FOLLOWING THE REQUIREMENTS OF AB 24 49. WE MUST FIRST CONFIRM THERE IS A QUORUM PRESENT IN THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBER, WHICH THERE IS. WE DO HAVE FOUR MEMBERS AT THE DIOCESE, UM, VICE MAYOR, UM, YAMANI IS PRESENT VIA ZOOM. UH, VICE MAYOR YAMANI. PLEASE ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL TO FIRST CONFIRM THAT YOU CAN BE HEARD AND SEEN AND THAT YOU CAN HEAR AND SEE THE DAIS. GOOD EVENING MAYOR COUNCIL. I CAN HEAR YOU AND I CAN SEE YOU. ALRIGHT. UM, SO IF YOU COULD PROVIDE A GENERAL DESCRIPTION OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES RELATING TO THE NEED TO APPEAR REMOTELY, UH, MR. MAYOR, FOLLOWING THE REQUIREMENTS OF AB 2, 2, 4 9, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, AVAIL OF THE, JUST CAUSE, UM, TRAVELING WHILE UNOFFICIAL BUSINESS OF, UM, THE LEGISLATIVE BODY. I AM HERE IN WASHINGTON, DC FOR LEGISLATIVE MEETINGS. MR. MAY. OKAY. THERE IS NO ONE HERE, UM, OVER THE AGE OF 18, PRESENT AT THE REMOTE LOCATION WITH ME. OKAY. THANK YOU, UH, FOR ANTICIPATING THAT QUESTION. AND, UH, UH, CITY CLERK, UH, CHAPEL, UH, PLEASE CONFIRM THE NUMBER OF TIMES THIS COUNCIL MEMBER HAS APPEARED REMOTELY WITHIN THE CALENDAR YEAR FOR 2024. SHE HAS NOT, UM, APPEARED REMOTELY. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME. FIRST TIME. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, SO AT THIS POINT, UM, WE CAN TAKE A ROLL CALL VOTE, AND WE SHOULD HAVE A MOTION ON ACCEPTING THE VIRTUAL ATTENDANCE DUE TO A JUST CAUSE REASON, OR I MAKE A MOTION MAYOR TO ACCEPT THE ATTENDANCE EXCUSE. I'LL SECOND. OKAY. UH, AND ALL OF OUR VOTES TONIGHT WILL BE VOICE VOTES BECAUSE OF, UH, REPORT, UH, BEING ON, UH, REMOTE. UH, WITH THAT, UH, WE HAVE ROLL CALL ON THAT ON THE, ON THE VOTE. COUNCIL MEMBER BUSH? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER RODRIGUEZ. AYE. UH, COUNCIL MEMBER MOLINA AYE. VICE MAYOR YAMANI. AYE. MAYOR MORRISON. UH, AYE. THANK YOU. OKAY. ALRIGHT. WE WILL NOW BEGIN THE, UH, TUESDAY, APRIL 16TH REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. AND I'M GONNA ASK FOR, UH, CITY CLERK CHAPEL TO, UH, PROCEED WITH THE ROLL CALL. COUNCIL MEMBER BUSH HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER RODRIGUEZ. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER MOLINA. PRESENT VICE MAYOR YAMANI. HERE. MAYOR MARSON, UH, PRESENT. OH, WE HAVE A QUORUM. ALRIGHT. UH, A LIVE WEBCAST OF THE MEETING MAY BE VIEWED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE. THE NOTICE AGENDA AND INFORMATION ON THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY'S WEBSITE, UM, INFORMS MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT THEY MAY SUBMIT PUBLIC COMMENT OR A PUBLIC COMMENT ON A SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEM IN A NUMBER OF WAYS IN PERSON BY, UH, SUBMITTING ONE OF THESE SLIPS THAT ARE AT THE BACK OF THE CHAMBER AND GETTING THOSE OVER TO THE CITY CLERK, UM, VIA ZOOM BY PRE-REGISTERING ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE, NO LATER THAN FOUR HOURS BEFORE THE, UH, MEETING OR EMAILING NO LATER THAN FOUR HOURS BEFORE THE MEETING. ALL WRITTEN COMMENTS RECEIVED ARE DISTRIBUTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL PRIOR TO THE MEETING AND PUBLISHED ON THE CITY WEBSITE IF RECEIVED BY THE DEADLINE. SO WE'VE HAD ROLL CALL AND IF WE CAN NOW, UH, UH, PLEASE EVERYONE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE LED BY, UH, MEMBER BUSH. PLEASE REMAIN STANDING FOR THE INVOCATION. PRAY. HAND OVER YOUR HEART. READY? BEGIN AYE. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, OF AND THE REPUBLIC, WHICH STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. [00:05:02] WE HAVE THE PASTOR. IS HE HERE? HIM? OKAY. OH, RIGHT THERE. THERE YOU GO. UH, THE ONE WITH RED. YEAH. THAT WAS ON. THANK YOU MR. MAYOR FOR THE INVITATION. GOOD EVENING TO EVERYBODY. JOIN ME IN PRAYER. GREATER GOD OF HEAVEN, EARTH. WE THANK YOU FOR COMING TO THE END OF ANOTHER BEAUTIFUL DAY IN THIS BEAUTIFUL CITY. WE ASK THAT YOUR BLESSINGS BE UPON THIS MEETING AS YOU KNOW EACH AND EVERYONE'S HEART, FOR THE DESIRE FOR THE BETTER AND FOR THE WELLBEING OF OUR COMMUNITY THEY SERVE. I PRAY ALL THIS IN THE NAME OF MY LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST. AMEN. AMEN. OKAY, WE WILL NOW GO [5. PUBLIC COMMENT] INTO PUBLIC COMMENTS. THESE ARE, THESE ARE COMMENTS ON ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA, NON AGENDIZED ITEMS. UM, AND DO WE HAVE SOME IN THE, UH, ZOOM ROOM? YES, MA'AM. WE DO. OKAY, LET'S GO AHEAD AND START WITH THEM FIRST. AND, UH, WE'LL GIVE EACH PERSON TWO MINUTES. OKAY. UM, LET'S SEE HERE. WE'VE GOT HERE NUNES. FERNANDA NUNES, PLEASE UNMUTE FERNANDA NUNEZ, PLEASE UNMUTE. OKAY. UM, AND ACTUALLY THAT'S IT FOR OUR, UM, GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ZOOM. OKAY. UH, WE WILL NOW TAKE ONES FROM THE AUDIENCE. I'M GONNA CALL THREE NAMES AT A TIME. SO WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, YOU KNOW, COME UP TO THE, UH, UH, PODIUM, AND IF YOU'RE SECOND OR THIRD, GO AND STAND IN THE MIDDLE AISLE. THAT WAY YOU CAN COME RIGHT UP AND YOU'LL MAKE THINGS GO MUCH, MUCH SMOOTHER. UH, FIRST WE HAVE VINCENT EZ TO BE FOLLOWED BY ELIZABETH, UH, ESPARZA AND TO BE FOLLOWED BY SHERRY GOGI. SO FIRST WE HAVE VINCENT. HELLO AND GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS VINCE ANA. I AM 19 YEARS OLD AND I'M A STUDENT FROM SAN DIEGO CITY COMMUNITY COLLEGE. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY AND ADDRESS YOU TODAY ABOUT MY EXPERIENCES VOLUNTEERING IN NATIONAL CITY, CONDUCTING THE YOUNG ADULT TOBACCO PURCHASE SURVEY. THIS WORK WAS IN COLLABORATION WITH SAY, SAN DIEGO, WITH STAFF GRACE NIMA. WE CONDUCTED SEVEN SURVEYS, AND THROUGH THESE SEVEN SURVEYS WE CONDUCTED ON TOBACCO RETAILERS THROUGHOUT NATIONAL CITY IN DECEMBER, 2023. THIS SURVEY MEASURED ILLEGAL TOBACCO SALES TO UNDERAGE VOLUNTEERS. AT THE TIME OF THE SURVEY, I WAS 18 YEARS OF AGE. WE WENT INTO MARKET SUPERMARKETS, LIQUOR STORES, SMOKE SHOPS, ET CETERA, TO ATTEMPT TO PURCHASE TOBACCO PRODUCTS. I WENT TO ATTEMPT TO PURCHASE THESE PRODUCTS AND IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, IT IS ILLEGAL FOR RETAILERS CLERKS TO SELL TOBACCO PRODUCTS TO ANYONE UNDER THE AGE OF 21. THIS IS THE LAW. IT WAS SHOCKING THAT FOUR OUTTA SEVEN ATTEMPTS PURCHASES, OR 57% OF THE TOBACCO RETAILERS SOLD TO ME A VARIETY OF TOBACCO PRODUCTS, INCLUDING MARLBORO CIGARETTES AND SWISH SWEET CIGARILLOS. THREE FOURTHS OF THE RETAIL STORES ASKED FOR MY ID. AND IN THESE ATTEMPTS I FOUND MYSELF QUESTIONING MY CAPACITY TO CARRY OUT A SUCCESSFUL TRANSACTION. AND TO MY SURPRISE, I WAS ABLE TO, THROUGHOUT THE DAY WHERE WE CONDUCTED THESE SURVEYS IN NATIONAL CITY, WE ALSO CONDUCTED THE SAME SURVEYS IN CHULA VISTA. THE EXPERIENCE WAS VERY DIFFICULT AND DIFFERENT AS I WAS ASKED MY AGE AND A FORM OF IDENTIFICATION. AND UPON GIVING THIS INFORMATION, I WAS REJECTED FROM MAKING THE PURCHASE. AND ON A HANDFUL OF OCCASIONS I WAS SCOLDED BY THE CLERK TO NOT CONSUME THESE PRODUCTS, NOR ATTEMPT TO PURCHASE THESE PRODUCTS ELSEWHERE. A KEY FACTOR THAT DIFFERENTIATED THESE CITIES WITH HIGH RATES OF LEGAL SALES FROM THE CITIES WITH LOW OR LEGAL OR NO ILLEGAL SALES, LIKE CHULA VISTA. THANK YOU. IS THE IMPLI. OH, OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, VINCENT. UH, NEXT WE HAVE GRACE TODAY, NO, I'M SORRY, ELIZABETH TO BE FOLLOWED BY SHERRY GOGI TO BE FOLLOWED BY GRACE. I CAN'T QUITE READ THE LAST NAME. STARTS WITH AN N. OKAY. HELLO. I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF OUR PEOPLE FROM NATIONAL CITY [00:10:01] TO ASK FOR HUMAN RIGHTS COMMITTEE AS WELL AS ETHICS COMMISSION. UNPREDICTABLE SITUATIONS HAVE BEEN HAPPENING ALL AROUND US, LIKE THE FLOODING THAT HAD LEFT MANY OF OUR PEOPLE WITHOUT HOMES. IT'S, UH, RESIDENTS THAT HAVE BEEN LIVING HERE FOR PRACTICALLY THEIR WHOLE LIVES, AND THEY ARE BEING OSTRACIZED FOR BEING HOMELESS. UM, HOMELESS IS A, A SITUATION WE ARE BEEN HAVING, UM, FOR A VERY LONG TIME. AND UNFORTUNATELY MY FAMILY WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT BECAME HOMELESS. UM, THE CITY HAS BEEN, UH, COMING AROUND PUTTING THE TENTS AWAY, AND THEY CAME IN THE TOWED AWAY MY FAMILY'S CAR, WHICH WAS THE LAST ALTERNATIVE THAT THEY COULD HAVE, HAVE, OR THAT THEY DID HAVE FOR THEM TO HAVE SHELTER AND TO BE OUT OF THE COLD. UM, SO I ASK THAT IF, TO PLEASE ON BEHALF OF OUR PEOPLE FOR THE ETHICS COMMISSION AND THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMITTEE. THE RENTS ARE OUTRAGEOUS. AND IN FACT, THEY ARE SAYING THAT PEOPLE BE, THEY CHOOSE TO BE HOMELESS. THEY DO NOT CHOOSE TO BE HOMELESS. PEOPLE ARE BECOMING OVERWHELMED AND DEPRESSED BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO SUPPORT THEIR FAMILIES. MANY OF YOU HAVE NEVER EXPERIENCED A STRUGGLE OR HUMILIATION THAT HOMELESS PEOPLE HAVE. THE PEOPLE FROM NATIONAL CITY WOULD BE JUST THE BEST TO UNITE. UM, OH, IF I WOULD ASK YOU FOR THAT, PLEASE. UM, OKAY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND, UM, THANK YOU. I HOPE THAT YOU GUYS TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WHAT I HAVE SAID. MM-HMM. , THANK YOU, UH, SHERRY GOGI TO BE FOLLOWED BY GRACE TO BE FOLLOWED BY JULIE POLLY. GOOD EVENING MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL STAFF. I'M HERE AGAIN. SARAH GOBY. AND I, I, I GUESS I WANT TO BE HERE AS MUCH AS YOU GUYS ARE. I'M REALLY ASKING YOU AND FLOORING YOU TO LOOK AT THIS PARADISE CREEK WATER COMMUNITY ENHANCEMENT FOR THE ASCO THAT WE HAVE HERE IN NATIONAL CITY. I KNOW IT WAS VOTED IN, IT WAS APPROVED SOMEWHERE. NOT WITH US. WE WERE NEVER GETTING THE OPPORTUNITY TO KNOW ABOUT THIS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. WE LOST FIVE HOMES. BUT THAT'S NOT ALL YOU LOST IN NATIONAL CITY. YOU LOST OVER A HUNDRED HOMES IN NATIONAL CITY BECAUSE OF THIS IS THE WAY IT'S DONE. I'M CONCENTRATING IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE THERE, THERE IS A GRATE THAT WAS INSTALLED A LITTLE OVER TWO YEARS AGO AND THAT HAS FLOODED MY HOUSE TWICE THE FIRST TIME. WE ARE OKAY. WE HANDLED IT THIS TIME. WE LOST EVERYTHING WE HAVE ALONG WITH MY NEIGHBORS. YOU GUYS WERE AWARE OF THIS BEFORE THE RAINS COME. EVERYBODY SAYS IT'S A THOUSAND RAINS OR WHATEVER, A THOUSAND A YEAR. BUT IT WAS COMING AND THAT GRATE WAS NOT OPEN COMPLETE. EVERY TIME IT RAINS, WE ARE SCARED. WE'RE LIVING ACROSS TOWN IN A CAMPGROUND AND IT'S RAINING AND WE'RE SITTING IN MY FRONT YARD TO SEE IF WE HAVE TO SALVAGE WHAT WE HAVE LEFT, WHICH IS NOT MUCH. WE HAVE NO FENCING, NO HOMES, NO NOTHING. I'M ASKING YOU AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN, AND I'LL PROBABLY DO THIS A LOT MORE. SO MIGHT AS WELL JUST CAVE IN. FIND OUT WHAT WE CAN DO TO TAKE THAT GRADE OUT. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THERE. THAT'LL GIVE US PEACE OF MIND. WE CAN SLEEP AT NIGHT 'CAUSE WE DON'T SLEEP AT NIGHT WHEN IT RAINS. NONE OF US, NONE OF US SLEEP AT NIGHT. I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE 'CAUSE YOU WEREN'T AFFECTED, BUT WE WERE. PLEASE REMOVE THAT GRATE. THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING. THAT CANAL HAS WORKED WITH US FOR 15 YEARS. 50 YEARS. ASK MY NEIGHBORS. THEY WERE LIVED THERE FOR 47 AND 41. I WAS A ROOKIE. I'VE ONLY BEEN THERE FOR 22, BUT WE'VE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM UNTIL YOU PUT IT IN. THANK YOU. TAKE IT OUT. SIMPLE SOLUTION. OKAY. WE DON'T HAVE TO GO EVERYTHING ELSE. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UH, JULIE POLLY BE FOLLOWED BY EDWARD NIETO TO BE FOLLOWED BY, UH, ERIC CANON. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. AND JULIE POLLY WITH THE WMA AND I REPRESENT MOBILE HOME PARK OWNERS. AND I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE THE NEW REGIONAL MANAGER FOR HAPPY HOLLOW. MINA LY IS HERE. MM-HMM. . UM, OVER A YEAR AGO, THE CITY COUNCIL PASSED A TEMPORARY RENT CONTROL ORDINANCE FOR MOBILE HOME PARKS BASED OFF A PROPOSED STATE LAW IN HOPES THE LEGISLATURE WOULD PASS STATEWIDE RENT CONTROL FOR MOBILE HOME PARKS. AT THE TIME THE MOBILE HOME PARK OWNERS WERE SUSPECT OF THE FATE OF THE STATEWIDE PROPOSAL WASN'T VIABLE AND BEGAN MEETING IMMEDIATELY WITH MR. GARY, [00:15:01] MR. SCHULTZ AND VARIOUS COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO SHOWED INTEREST IN HEARING OUR IDEAS ON FINDING A PERMANENT SOLUTION FOR NATIONAL CITY, IT IS GOOD THAT RESIDENTS HAVE RESOURCES TO LEARN THEIR RIGHTS AND THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES OF BEING A COACH OWNER IN CALIFORNIA. THE THREE OPERATORS OF THE FOUR PARKS IN NATIONAL CITY AREN'T FEARFUL OF OUR RESIDENTS BEING EDUCATED AND AWARE OF THE LAW. AND THERE ARE RESOURCES FOR REDRESS. THE PARK OWNERS ANTICIPATE PRESENTING THE CITY WITH A DRAFT MOU IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS. AND IT'S OUR HOPE THAT YOU WILL SOLIDIFY THE PROTECTIONS OF THE ORDINANCE WITH A CITYWIDE AGREEMENT THAT GUARANTEES RENT INCREASES DO NOT EXCEED 5%. I HOPE THAT ORGANIZATIONS AND COUNCIL MEMBERS CONDUCTING OUTREACH DO NOT MISREPRESENT OR POLITICIZE OUR POSITION, WHICH WE ARE WILLING TO AGREE TO LIVE WITHIN THE TERMS OF THE ORDINANCE, BUT ARE ASKING THE CITY TO ADDRESS THE UNCONSTITUTIONAL ASPECTS OF THE ORDINANCE THROUGH AN MOU AGREEMENT. THESE AGREEMENTS HAVE WORKED WELL IN CITIES LIKE VISTA, RANCHO CUCAMONGA, SUNNYVALE, RANCHO CORDOVA, TO NAME ONLY A FEW. IT'S IMPORTANT TO REITERATE THAT THE PARK OWNERS DO NOT CONTINUE, EXCUSE ME. THE PARK OWNERS DO NOT OPPOSE CONTINUING THE TERMS OF THE EXISTING ORDINANCE AND HOPE THAT ONCE YOU HAVE A DRAFT, MOU THE COUNCIL PUTS THIS ON THE AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION IMMEDIATELY AND GIVE THE RESIDENTS AND YOUR PROPERTY OWNERS THE ASSURANCES AND PEACE OF MIND OF FUTURE RENT INCREASES. AND HOPEFULLY POLITICAL CANDIDATES DON'T USE THE ISSUE TO STOKE FEAR INTO UNSUSPECTING PEOPLE FOR THEIR OWN POLITICAL GAIN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UH, EDWARDO FOLLOWED BY ERIC KONS TO BE FOLLOWED BY ANDREW OCCURRED. SIR, UH, YES. HERE I'M TALK I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT ETHICS AND A LOT OF WHAT THIS LADY JUST FINISHED SAYING, AND THE PREVIOUS PERSON SAID ABOUT, UH, CHULA VISTA, I MEAN CHULA VISTA IN THE SMOKE AREA. THE, THE WAY I, I'M, I'M GONNA APPROACH IT. I'M GONNA TAKE A QUOTE FROM THE GRAND JURY REPORT FOR THE COMMISSION, UH, PORT COMMISSION. THEY SAID THE AB THEIR THE COMMISSION SAID THAT THERE'S ABSOLUTE SOVEREIGNTY OF THE BOARD TO MAKE ANY DECISION THAT WE WANT FROM THE DATA, FROM THE DIOCESE AT ANY TIME. NOW, THE QUOTE FROM THE CITY MANAGER WITH REGARDS TO THE SLUSH FUND WAS TO SAY THAT ULTIMATELY IT'S UP TO THE EACH CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS TO DECIDE HOW TO SPEND YOUR BUDGET WITHIN THE LEGAL CONSTRAINTS OF, OF THE, OF, OF STATE OR FEDERAL LAWS. WHAT I WANT TO SAY IS THAT THERE'S BOTH OF THEM SHOW THAT THERE'S UNETHICAL, UH, UH, PRACTICES WITH THE CITY COUNCIL, SPECIFICALLY RODRIGUEZ, I THINK IN SOME AREAS IN RAISING THESE AREAS, UH, THESE CONCERNS. WHAT I THINK THAT WHAT NEEDS TO BE SAID IS THAT THE CITY MANAGER, THE CITY ATTORNEY HAVE, HAVE, HAVE, HAVE BEEN, UH, UM, COMPLACENT IN A VET. AND EVEN RODRIGUEZ SAID THAT THEY VETTED IT. AND THE LAST MEETING WE WENT TO, YOU, YOU SAW RODRIGUEZ, UH, TURN BEN IN AND, AND BARRY IN. AND THEN BARRY TRIED TO DEFEND HIMSELF BY SAYING THAT THIS IS APP, THIS IS AN APPROPRIATION LINE, THIS IS JUST AN APPROPRIATION LINE, AND THAT THERE'S NO, UH, REASON TO DENY IT. THAT WAS REALLY FLIMSY WORDS TO DEFEND EACH OTHER. AND WE HAVEN'T GOT TO A BASIS OF WHY THAT, THAT, UH, THAT HAPPENED. WHAT I, WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET TO IS THAT WE NEED ETHICS IN THIS, IN THIS, IN THIS, UH, COUNCIL. WE NEED SOME ETHICS TRAINING. 'CAUSE APPARENTLY THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE CITY ATTORNEY AND THE MANAGER DON'T KNOW WHAT'S RIGHT AND WHAT'S WRONG, AND THEY'RE CAUSING THESE ISSUES THAT COME UP THAT I THINK THAT, UH, NEED TO BE RESOLVED. UM, LET ME ASK, LET ME HAVE ONE MORE MOMENT HERE AS I THINK THERE IS MANIPULATION FOR THE ACE COMMITTEE AND ALSO THE COMMITTEE THAT CAME FOR THE RENT CONTROL FOR THE MOBILE HOME. OKAY. IT'S, IT WAS DONE ON, UH, TAXPAYER'S MONEY. OKAY. THANK YOU. YOUR, YOUR, YOUR TIME IS UP AND I DON'T THINK THAT WAS RIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU ERIC EZ, UH, TO BE FOLLOWED BY ANDREW KERCHER. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHICH OF YOU CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE REGISTERED SEX OFFENDERS. YOU ALL SAY THAT IT IS NOT AN ATTEMPT TO CRIMINALIZE PEOPLE WITH HOUSING INSTABILITY, YET YOU WANNA APPLY LAWS THAT NORMALLY APPLY TO REGISTERED SEX OFFENDERS WHEN IT COMES TO STAYING DISTANCES FROM SCHOOLS. THESE PARENTS SHOULD BE MORE WORRIED ABOUT THE LIBERAL INDOCTRINATION TAKING PLACE WITHIN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, RATHER THAN THE HOMELESS PERSON ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD. ON APRIL 2ND, DURING THE CITY HALL MEETING, ATTORNEY SCHULTZ MADE A COMMENT ON WHETHER HOMELESS CITIZENS COULD BE FORCIBLY CON, COLLECTED AND REMOVED. IT IS FOR THE REASONS LIKE THIS, THAT WE, THE PEOPLE ARE REQUESTING AN ETHICS COMMISSION AND HUMAN RIGHTS COMMITTEE BE ESTABLISHED AS OVERSIGHT TO ENSURE ANY POLICIES AND REGULATIONS ARE EVALUATED IN AN ETHICAL AND HUMANE RIGHT RIGHTS THROUGH THE LENS BEFORE ANY FURTHER ACTION IS TAKEN. AS FOR ANY MANY, AS FOR MANY OF THE ANECDOTES Y'ALL HAD IN THE LAST MEETING WITH YOUR JUST DEPO POLICE OFFICERS AND SOCIAL WORKERS, ZERO EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE WAS PROVIDED. Y'ALL HAVE NO EMPIRICAL [00:20:01] EVIDENCE THAT 150 HOMELESS PEOPLE OUT OF 55,550 CITIZENS IN NATIONAL CITY ARE THREATENED WITH HEALTH ISSUES. IN FACT, THE WHO SUGGESTS IT IS MORE PLAUSIBLE THAT POPULATION MIGRATION IS ASSOCIATED WITH THE SPREAD OF DISEASE. Y'ALL HAVE NO STATISTICAL EVIDENCE OR DATA THAT SHOWS A CORRELATION BETWEEN THE 0.3% OF HOMELESS CITIZENS AND THE REST OF THE POPULATION THAT IS HOUSED WHEN IT COMES TO HEALTH ISSUES. AS I RECALL, THERE WAS A TIME NOT TOO LONG AGO WHEN COVID-19 INJECTION SITE TENTS WERE PLACED ON EVERY CORNER INJECTING PEOPLE WITH VACCINES THAT HAD NO CLINICAL TRIALS. I BET THERE IS MORE OF A CORRELATION BETWEEN PEOPLE'S HEALTH ISSUES AND THOSE TENTS Y'ALL HAD UP COMPARED TO THE HOMELESS TENTS. AND YOUR ATTEMPTS TO FOCUS ON WATERWAYS IS FUTILE, CONSIDERING BY THE YEAR 2035, THANKS TO GOVERNOR NEWSOM, ALL OF YOU PEOPLE WILL BE DRINKING RECYCLED TOILET WATER FROM TOILET TO TAP. HOW'S THAT FOR IRONY? LASTLY, I WOULD LIKE THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS TO PROVIDE US WITH THE ADDRESS OF THE HOMELESS SHELTER AND SAFE PARKING PLACES WITHIN THE NATIONAL CITY BOUNDARIES. THAT'S RIGHT. YOU DON'T HAVE NONE. I BE, I WILL LEAVE YOU ALL WITH THIS LAST QUOTE BY CORETTA SCOTT KING. THE GREATNESS OF A COMMUNITY IS MOST ACCURATELY MEASURED BY THE COMPASSIONATE ACTIONS OF ITS MEMBERS. Y'ALL PEOPLE LACK EMPATHY. THANK YOU. OKAY, GOOD. THANK YOU. OKAY, NEXT WE HAVE ANDREW KERCHER. THEN WE HAVE A COUPLE OTHERS THAT PUT DOWN NUMBER FIVE, WHICH IS PUBLIC AIDA YOU WANT IN PUBLIC? OKAY. SO WE GOT THOMAS RECH AND THEN AIDA CAST THERE. OKAY. GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL, UH, ANDREW KUCHER. I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT IN NATIONAL CITY FOR OVER A DECADE AT 1324 J AVENUE. MM-HMM. . UH, CURRENTLY I'M IN THE PROCESS OF PERMITTING, UM, FOR AN A DUA GARAGE CONVERSION. AND I'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS FOR ABOUT FOUR MONTHS NOW. I STARTED, UH, BEGINNING OF JANUARY, I GOT COMMENTS BACK, RESUBMITTED MY COMMENTS EARLY, UM, MARCH. AND AT THAT TIME, ONE OF THE COMMENTS YOU'LL SEE WAS, UM, TO PAY A SEWER FEE OF $1,160. UM, ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS WHO'S ALSO LOOKING AT BUILDING, UM, AN A DU AND MY, THERE'S ABOUT FOUR OF US BUILDING ADUS ON THE, ON OUR STREET BETWEEN 13 AND J UM, BROUGHT UP THAT, HEY, YOU DON'T, YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE TO PAY THAT FEE. THERE'S ACTUALLY A GOVERNMENT CODE, WHICH YOU HAVE THAT CODE IN FRONT OF YOU. UM, TITLE SEVEN, DIVISION ONE, CHAPTER 13, ARTICLE TWO, UH, 6 6 3 2 4. SECTION C, A LOCAL AGENCY SPECIAL DISTRICT, OR WATER CORPORATION SHALL NOT IMPOSE ANY IMPACT FEE UPON THE DEVELOPMENT OF AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT LESS THAN 750 SQUARE FEET. ALRIGHT, NOW, IF IT'S BIGGER, WHAT IT SAYS IS THEN YOU CAN PROPORTIONATELY CHARGE A FEE. MY A DU IS 441 SQUARE FEET AND I, AND I PROVIDED THE FRONT PAGE OF MY DRAWINGS. YOU GUYS HAVE THE, THE BUILDING PERMIT NUMBER. NOW THEY TOLD ME IN MARCH, OH NO, YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY THAT. NOW WHEN ALL MY, EVERYTHING I DID, UM, ALL THE CORRECTIONS, NOW MY PERMIT IS BEING HELD HOSTAGE BY THE CITY BECAUSE THE ATTORNEYS, IT WENT TO THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND THEY'RE DECIDING WHETHER OR NOT I SHOULD PAY IT. THEY TOLD ME, PAY IT. AND THEN IF WE FIND OUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY IT, WE'LL PAY YOU BACK LATER. AND I SAID, WELL, WHY DON'T WE DO IT THE OTHER WAY AROUND? YOU KNOW, IF I OWE SOMETHING LATER, THEN COME BACK TO ME AND ASK ME FOR IT. BUT IF I DON'T OWN ANYTHING, NOW LET'S GET MY PERMIT SO I CAN START BUILDING. THANK YOU. I DON'T HAVE AN EXTRA $1,160 TO PAY FOR THIS. I'M PUTTING ALL MY SAVINGS IN TO BUILD THIS A DU OUT. SO THANK YOU ANDREW. THANK YOU. OKAY. HOPEFULLY YOU GUYS CAN LOOK INTO THAT. UH, THOMAS REICH TO BE FOLLOWED BY ADA. THERE SHE IS. HELLO, . I'M GONNA MAKE THIS SHORT. UH, I THINK WE SHOULD DO, I THINK I'M THINKING ABOUT THE UNDOCUMENTED, UNDOCUMENTED ALIENS AND THEY DON'T GET, THEY DON'T HAVE A SECTION EIGHT AND I'D LIKE YOU TO NOT HURT THEM, BUT NOT HURT THEM, BUT JUST, OR NOT TAKE CARE OF 'EM OR, UH, JUST TREAT 'EM, UH, FAIRLY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HOW YA HELLO COUNCIL MEMBERS. IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL. UM, MAYOR MORRISON, IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU AS WELL. UH, BIG SHOUT OUT TO MY COUNCIL MEMBER. YA. UM, I JUST WANNA REINFORCE SOME OF THE, UH, COMMENTARY THAT WAS MADE FROM OUR FRIENDS WITH SAY SAN DIEGO. UH, THEY HAVE BEEN TIRELESS ADVOCATES IN OUR COMMUNITY, MAKING SURE THAT OUR YOUTH ARE NOT SUBJECTED TO THE PREDATORY PRACTICES OF BIG TOBACCO. I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH THEM WHEN I WAS DEPUTY COALITION MANAGER FOR SAN DIEGOS VERSUS BIG TOBACCO WHEN WE, UH, ENDED THE SELF FLAVORED TOBACCO PRODUCTS IN THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO AND THE CITY OF CHULA VISTA. I WAS VERY PROUD TO ALSO WORK ON PROPOSITION 31 THAT REAFFIRMED THE BAN ON, UH, FLAVORED [00:25:01] TOBACCO PRODUCTS. SO I'M JUST REALLY HERE TODAY TO HAVE YOU ENCOURAGE A CONVERSATION WITH, SAY, SAN DIEGO AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE LONG TERM. WE RECOGNIZE THAT OUR, OUR LAWS ARE JUST AS POWERFUL AS OUR ENFORCEMENT. UM, SO I THINK IT'S CRITICAL AT THIS POINT FOR US TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT NATIONAL CITY IMPLEMENTING A TOBACCO RETAIL LICENSING, UH, PROGRAM. SO I ENCOURAGE YOU TO LEAN INTO THAT POLICY CONVERSATION WITH, SAY, SAN DIEGO. THEY HAVE INCREDIBLE, UM, ACUMEN IN THIS SPACE AND HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR MANY YEARS. SO I JUST ENCOURAGE YOU TO LEAN INTO TO THEIR CONVERSATIONS AND I'M HERE AS A RESOURCE. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. I'LL SEE YOU GUYS SOON. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH, WE HAVE ONE MORE SPEAKER. GRACE, SHE THERE. SHE'S HELLO. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS GRACE NAKASHIMA AND I SERVE AS A COMMUNITY ORGANIZER WITH THE ALCOHOL, TOBACCO, AND OTHER DRUG PREVENTION PROGRAM WITH SAY, SAN DIEGO. AND I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS YOU TODAY. UM, I WANNA SHARE MY FIRSTHAND EXPERIENCE WORKING ON TOBACCO PREVENTION AND EDUCATION IN NATIONAL CITY. SO AT THE END OF 2023, AS YOU HEARD FROM VINCENT, MY TEAM CONDUCTED THE YOUNG ADULT TOBACCO PURCHASE SURVEY, WHICH MEASURES TOBACCO RETAILERS COMPLIANCE WITH STATE AND LOCAL LAWS, PARTICULARLY REGARDING SALES TO MINORS. AND OUR FINDINGS WERE CONCERNING, BUT NOT SURPRISING. SO IN NATIONAL CITY, 18% OF STORES SOLD TOBACCO PRODUCTS TO UNDERAGE INVESTIGATORS WITH CONVENIENCE STORES BEING THE MAIN OFFENDERS. AND SHOCKINGLY, 26% OF STORE CLERKS FAIL TO ASK FOR IDENTIFICATION THAT IS ONE OUT OF EVERY FOUR RETAILERS. SO IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT NATIONAL CITY HAS FOUR SMOKE SHOPS AND ONLY ONE OF THOSE HAD AGE RESTRICTED SIGNAGE. UM, AND NONE OF THE INVESTIGATORS WERE CARTED AT ANY SMOKE SHOP. AND LAST YEAR, UNDERCOVER INVESTIGATIONS BY THE SAN DIEGO CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE UNCOVERED REPEATED ILLEGAL SALES IN NATIONAL CITY IN SAN DIEGO LEADING TO LAWSUITS AGAINST THE BUSINESSES INVOLVED. THIS IS A PERSISTENT PROBLEM THAT REQUIRES YOUR ATTENTION. AND WITH OVER 2,300 TOBACCO RETAILERS IN THE COUNTY, THE STAKES ARE HIGH. THANKFULLY, MORE THAN 200 CALIFORNIA COMMUNITIES HAVE IMPLEMENTED A TOBACCO RETAIL LICENSE, A PROVEN SOLUTION TO REDUCE ILLEGAL SALES TO MINORS. SO TLS NOT ONLY REGULATE TOBACCO SALES, BUT ALSO ENCOURAGE COMPLIANCE THROUGH RETAILER EDUCATION. AND I URGE NATIONAL CITY TO FIND A SOLUTION AND A TOBACCO RETAIL LICENSE PROGRAM COULD MAKE A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE IN PROTECTING OUR YOUTH FROM THE DANGERS OF TOBACCO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH, WE HAVE, UH, ONE, UH, ONE OF OUR SPEAKERS IS ON ZOOM NOW FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. YES. SO LET'S, LET'S HEAR FROM THEM. MEGAN STEWART. GOOD AFTERNOON. THANK YOU SO MUCH. MY NAME'S MEGAN STEWART. I'M A PUBLIC HEALTH PROFESSIONAL. UM, I'M HERE TODAY TO URGE, CAUTION AND RESTRAINT IN THE EXPANSION OF MARIJUANA BUSINESSES AND COMMERCIALIZATION WITHIN OUR CITY. RECENT EVIDENCE UNDERSCORES THE ALARMING RISKS ASSOCIATED WITH HIGH POTENCY MARIJUANA, PARTICULARLY CONCERNING ITS POTENTIAL TO INDUCE SEVERE AND LONG-LASTING PSYCHIATRIC DISORDERS. UM, NBC NEWS SHED LIGHT ON THE TRAGIC CASE OF ANDERS GILEAD, A 17-YEAR-OLD BOY WHOSE LIFE WAS TRAGICALLY CUT SHORT DUE TO MARIJUANA INDUCED PSYCHOSIS. ANDERS, LIKE MANY OTHERS, FELL VICTIM TO THE ESCALATING POTENCY OF MARIJUANA EXPERIENCING DELUSIONS AND HALLUCINATIONS THAT ULTIMATELY LED TO HIS UNTIMELY DEATH. HIS STORY SERVES AS A POIGNANT REMINDER OF THE GRAVE CONSEQUENCES OF UNCHECKED MARIJUANA CONSUMPTION, ESPECIALLY AMONG OUR YOUTH. STUDIES FROM DENMARK, BRITAIN AND BEYOND REVEAL A CONCERNING CORRELATION BETWEEN HEAVY MARIJUANA USE AND DEBILITATING PSYCHIATRIC CONDITIONS SUCH AS SCHIZOPHRENIA, BIPOLAR DISORDER, AND DEPRESSION. THE PSYCHOACTIVE COMPONENT IN MARIJUANA THC HAS BEEN STEADILY INCREASING IN POTENCY, SPECIFICALLY IN OUR COMMERCIAL SETTINGS. THIS HEIGHTENED POTENCY NOT ONLY INCREASES THE LIKELIHOOD OF PSYCHOSIS, BUT ALSO INCREASES THE RISK OF ADDICTION. THE COMMERCIALIZATION OF HIGH POTENCY MARIJUANA POSES A CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER TO OUR COMMUNITY, PARTICULARLY TO VULNERABLE POPULATIONS SUCH AS TEENAGERS AND YOUNG ADULTS. THE DOSE DEPENDENT NATURE OF THC UNDERSCORES THE URGENT NEED FOR STRICTER REGULATIONS TO MITIGATE THE PROLIFERATION OF POTENT MARIJUANA PRODUCTS AND MARIJUANA PRODUCTS MARKETED TOWARDS CHILDREN. WHILE SOME MAY ARGUE FOR THE ECONOMIC BENEFITS OF EMBRACING THE MARIJUANA INDUSTRY, WE MUST NOT PRIORITIZE PROFIT OVER PUBLIC HEALTH. THE WELLBEING OF OUR CITIZENS, ESPECIALLY OUR YOUTH, MUST REMAIN PARAMOUNT IN THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS AND ENCOURAGE THE COUNCIL TO PRIORITIZE EVIDENCE-BASED POLICIES THAT SAFEGUARD THE MENTAL HEALTH AND WELLBEING OF OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THAT YOU DO. RIGHT. AND WE HAVE THANK YOU. ONE MORE ON ZOOM AND JUST LOG IN. DIANA EZ. OKAY. DIANA MUNOZ, PLEASE UNMUTE. [00:30:02] DIANA MUNA. NO, SHE'S NOT ON MUTING, SO OKAY. STILL IN, STILL MUTED. YEAH, SHE ACTUALLY JUST HUNG UP, SO, HUH? SHE JUST HUNG UP, SO, YEAH. OH, . OH, OKAY. UM, SORRY. MR. MAYOR, UM, THE PERSON I WAS REFERRING TO, HER NAME IS, UH, JANICE RENOSO. SHE JUST TEXTED ME SAYING THAT SHE HAD ACTUALLY DONE THE PROCESS SHE HAS FOR, UM, ANOTHER ITEM. OH, OKAY. YEAH. FOR ITEM 14.2. NOT GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. I THINK SHE JUST MESSAGED ME SAYING THAT IT WAS PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT YEAH. YEAH. WE'VE HAD HER, THAT WE HAD HER DOWN, UH, LISTED FOR 14.2 FOR 14.2. I SAW THAT ON HER, YEAH. MM-HMM. HER SHEET? YES. IS SHE ON THERE? COULD YOU ASK? IS THAT OKAY? MAYOR? SHE, SHE IS ON THERE. WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO ASK HER? YEAH, GO AHEAD. SHE ALSO WANTS TO SPEAK FOR 12.2 BECAUSE SHE BROUGHT THIS UP TO ME EARLIER. I DIDN'T. JANICE RENOSO, UH, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK. I DID ALSO PUT IN A REQUEST I COULDN'T GET IT RESUBMITTED THROUGH THE APP OR THROUGH THE COMPUTER. SO I EMAILED THE CLERK DIRECTLY TO ASK TO SPEAK AFTER THE DEADLINE, PUBLIC COMMENT AND 12.2 AND 14.2. OKAY. AM I, AM I ABLE TO SPEAK ON IT ON PUBLIC COMMENT? ARE YOU, UH, WANTING TO SPEAK ON PUBLIC COMMENT RIGHT NOW? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GREETINGS MAYOR AND COUNCIL. MY NAME IS JANICE RENOSO, RESIDENT OF NATIONAL CITY AND CO-FOUNDER AND EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF MUNDO GARDENS. UH, WE HAVE BEEN ACTIVE IN COMMUNITY WORK REGARDING THE FLOOD RESPONSE EFFORTS AND HAVE OFFERED TIME AND AGAIN TO PARTNER WITH OTHER COMMUNITY BASED ORGANIZATIONS AND THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY. UM, WE SEE EVERY, UM, ASPECT OF THIS AS LESSONS LEARNED AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO BETTER, BETTER AND TO WORK TOGETHER, UM, FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE THOSE THAT ARE MOST IMPACTED AND MOST VULNERABLE RIGHT NOW. UM, WITH THAT I WANNA UPLIFT THE TENANT PROTECTION OR ANY CONSIDERATION THAT IS BEING TAKEN FOR, FOR THE FLOOD VICTIMS HERE IN NATIONAL CITY. ALSO HIGHLIGHTING AN OPPORTUNITY, UM, WITH COMMUNITY HOUSING WORKS, YOU HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE TO NATIONAL CITY RESIDENTS AND THOSE THAT QUALIFY WITHIN THE CRITERIA. I WANNA ENCOURAGE YOU, I WANNA ENCOURAGE THE LEADERSHIP AT COMMUNITY HOUSING WORKS TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY AGAIN, TO CHAMPION WHAT CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN, IN LIFE CHANGING, UM, WELLNESS SUSTAINING OPPORTUNITY FOR THESE FAMILIES THAT ARE GOING TO, THROUGH SOME OF THEM THE WORST TIMES IN THEIR LIFE. UM, WHAT WOULD THIS LOOK LIKE? I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE RESIDENTS, YOURSELF AS LEADERS, YOUR HOUSING DEPARTMENT AND COMMUNITY HOUSING WORKS CAN CONSIDER. AND AGAIN, NOT SEEING THIS AS A DIFFICULTY OR SOMETHING, UM, THAT WOULD HAD MULTIPLE BARRIERS. BUT AGAIN, GETTING EXCITED ON HOW YOU CAN CHAMPION AND BE FORWARD THINKING ON HAVING THIS OPPORTUNITY, EVEN IF IT'S TEMPORARY, BEING THAT THE RESIDENTS WOULD HAVE TO STILL QUALIFY THROUGH THE CRITERIA OF THE APPLICATION PROCESS AND ATTENDING INFORMATIONAL SE SESSIONS FOR THE APARTMENTS THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE THIS SUMMER, I THINK, UM, NEAR KIMBALL PARK. UH, I REALLY HOPE THAT WE CAN CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION. WE ARE THERE TO MEET WITH YOU. YOU CAN REACH OUT TO US AGAIN, YOU KNOW, LEAN ON THE COMMUNITY-BASED ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN THERE FOR THE COMMUNITY THROUGHOUT, THROUGHOUT WHAT IS NEEDED, WHETHER IT'S COVID, WHETHER IT'S FLOOD, UH, RELIEF, UM, AND SEE HOW WE CAN WORK TOGETHER. US OLIVE WOOD GARDENS, AC I MEAN, YOU NAME IT, YOU HAVE A THANK YOU. A LOT OF PARTICIPATION AND AVAILABILITY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. UH, I DO BELIEVE WE ARE ACTUALLY FINISHED WITH PUBLIC COMMENT NOW. OKAY. YEAH. I THINK WE GOT EVERYBODY. UM, NEXT WE GO INTO [6.1 National Library Week] PROCLAMATIONS AND WE DO HAVE A PROCLAMATION FOR NATIONAL LIBRARY WEEK. AND, UH, SO, AND I, I SEE SOME LIBRARY TYPES BACK THERE TOO. AND, UH, THERE. THEY'RE AND SAN DIEGO STATE STUDENTS. WE, WE, THANK YOU. OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO, BUT ANYWAY, UH, IF I COULD READ HERE, LIBRARIES PROVIDE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR EVERYONE TO PURSUE THEIR PASSIONS AND ENGAGE IN LIFELONG LEARNING, ALLOWING THEM TO LIVE THEIR BEST LIFE. LIBRARIES HAVE LONG SERVED AS TRUSTED INSTITUTIONS FOR ALL MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY, WHEREAS LIBRARIES STRIVE TO DEVELOP AND MAINTAIN PROGRAMS AND COLLECTIONS THAT ARE AS DIVERSE AS THE POPULATIONS THEY SERVE. AND ENSURE, UH, EQUITY OF ACCESS FOR ALL LIBRARIES ADAPT TO THE EVER-CHANGING NEEDS OF OUR [00:35:01] COMMUNITY, CONTINUALLY EXPANDING THEIR COLLECTIONS SERVICES AND PARTNERSHIPS. YOU KNOW, IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, I, I CAN REMEMBER WHEN, I STILL REMEMBER WHEN THE LIBRARY WAS JUST BOOKS . YEAH. BOY HAS THAT CHANGED? TINY STILL GOT, STILL GOT THE BOOKS. YEAH. BUT, UH, YEAH. AND I ALSO REMEMBER WHEN WE HAD THE OLD LIBRARY HERE, UH, NEXT DOOR HERE TO THE CITY HALL ON THE OTHER SIDE, AND WE TALKED ABOUT REDOING IT. AND AT THAT TIME IT WAS LIKE A $15 MILLION PROJECT TO BUILD A NEW LIBRARY. AND THERE WAS GOING, WELL, LIBRARIES. THOSE ARE THE PAST. NOBODY, NOBODY USES BOOKS ANYMORE. AND THAT WE ACTUALLY HAD THOSE COMMENTS HERE IN THE, IN THE CHAMBER AND, UH, SAY, YOU KNOW, WHY SHOULD WE SPEND THAT MUCH MONEY FOR A, A BUILDING THAT'S NOT GONNA GET USED? BUT INDEED, UH, YOU KNOW, WE SEE THAT, THAT THAT BUILDING IS IN CONSTANT USE. AND UH, YOU KNOW, AND I REMEMBER AT THE TIME IT WAS PER CAPITA, IT WAS THE HEAVIEST USED LIBRARY IN ALL THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. I DUNNO IF IT STILL MEETS THAT REQUIREMENT NOW, BUT I KNOW IT DID AT THAT POINT. AND, UH, SO WE'RE VERY PROUD OF OUR LIBRARY. SO WE DO PROCLAIM THAT, UH, THE WEEK OF APRIL 16TH, STARTING TODAY THROUGH THE 22ND, UH, AS NATIONAL LIBRARY WEEK. ALRIGHT, SO I WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO THE MAYOR, THE VICE MAYOR, AND THE CITY COUNCIL SO MUCH FOR RECOGNIZING NATIONAL LIBRARY WEEK HERE IN NATIONAL CITY. UM, THE LIBRARY STAFF AND MYSELF, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT FROM BOTH YOU AND THE COMMUNITY FOR OUR WONDERFUL NASHVILLE CITY LIBRARY. BUT TODAY, I'D BE REMINISCE IF I DIDN'T THANK SOME OF OUR AMAZING VOLUNTEERS WHO WORK WITH US EVERY DAY. WE HAVE REPRESENTATION FROM OUR FRIENDS IN THE LIBRARY WHO SPONSOR ALL OF OUR EVENTS. THEY PAY FOR ALL OF OUR BIG PROGRAMS. THEY, THEY'RE THE ONES WHO REALLY GIVE THE COMMUNITY WHAT THEY NEED. UM, AND THEN OUR WONDERFUL BOARD OF, UH, LIBRARY TRUSTEES WHO KEEP US HONEST . UM, SO LET ME HAVE THEM INTRODUCE THEMSELVES. START. OKAY. HI, MARGARET ALO SCOTT SHOP. I'M ON THE BOARD AND THE FRIENDS. HI EVERYONE, I'M CINDY LOPEZ. I'M A LIBRARY TRUSTEE. ALRIGHT. THEY'RE GOOD. OH YEAH, I WOULD DO THAT. WE JUST HAVE THEM FIXED. THANK YOU. YAY. OH, THANK YOU SO MUCH. I JUST WANNA MENTION THAT WE HAVE A FANTASTIC STAFF AT THAT LIBRARY. VERY HARDWORKING, VERY COMMITTED. THEY LOVE THE COMMUNITY AND IT SHOWS IN THEIR WORK AND I'M VERY PROUD. ALRIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU GUYS WANNA A PICTURE? WHAT ARE WE GONNA TAKE A PICTURE? I WAITING FOR THE TWO, HUH? WOULD, WOULD YOU GUYS LIKE A PICTURE AS A GROUP? GUYS, DON'T YOU COME BACK UP. STAND THERE AND WE WILL WE GET SOMEONE TO TAKE THE PICTURE? I THINK IT, IT WORKS BETTER IF YOU'RE UP YEAH. IF YOU'RE FRONT THE PODIUM. YEAH. OTHERWISE THE PODIUM HIDE. THERE YOU GO. YOU BE IN THE MIDDLE. YEAH. ALL RIGHT, THERE YOU GO. AND NEXT [7.1 Southwestern Community College - Higher Education Center National City] WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM OUR SOUTHWESTERN COMMUNITY COLLEGE, OUR HIGHER EDUCATION CENTER OF NATIONAL CITY. LIKE WE GOTTA BECOME A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFIC ABOUT THAT. WE, UH, GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. UH, THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TODAY TO, UH, PRESENT UPDATES IN SOUTH ANG COLLEGE, ESPECIALLY THE, UH, NATIONAL CITY, UH, CAMPUS, THE HIGHER EDUCATION CENTER, UH, THE COLLEGE TRANS, AS YOU KNOW, THE COLLEGE TRANSITIONED BACK, UH, TO TRUSTEE OR TO TRUSTEE, UH, AREA ELECTIONS IN 2022. AND I AM PROUD TO BE THE FIRST EVER REPRESENTATIVE OF THE DISTRICT WITH, OF NATIONAL CITY. UH, WE ARE PROUD TO BE PARTNERS WITH THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY, OH, SORRY. WE'RE PART TO BE STRONG PARTNERS WITH THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY. AND I WANT TO THANK COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, JOSE RODRIGUEZ FOR BEING THE CATALYST FOR TODAY'S PRESENTATION AND MAYOR MORRISON FOR, UH, ATTENDING OUR ANNUAL STATE OF THE DISTRICT LAST WEEK. THANK YOU FOR SHOWING UP. I ALSO WANT TO THANK OUR SUPERINTENDENT PRESIDENT, DR. MARK SANCHEZ, UH, BEHIND ME, WHO IS ALWAYS HERE, [00:40:01] UH, WHO IS HERE SUPPORTING OUR, OUR TEAM AS ALWAYS. AND THIS EVENING, I HAVE BROUGHT OUR ESTEEMED DEAN OF HIGHER EDUCATION CENTER WHO WILL BE GIVING THE PRESENTATION TODAY. THANK CHRIS DEAN PERRY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, THANK YOU TO TRUSTEE MORENO. HE'S BEEN A STRONG ADVOCATE FOR THE STUDENTS STUDYING HERE AT THE NATIONAL CITY CAMPUS. I'M CHRIS PERRY. I'M THE DEAN HERE AT SOUTHWESTERN COLLEGE'S, HIGHER ED CENTER AT NATIONAL CITY. UM, I'VE BEEN HERE FOR 23 YEARS WITH SOUTHWESTERN NEXT MONTH, AND EVERY ONE OF THOSE 23 YEARS HAS BEEN HERE IN NATIONAL CITY. SO MAYOR, I WANNA PETITION YOU FOR HONORARY RESIDENT . UM, AS MOST OF YOU KNOW, SOUTHWESTERN COLLEGE IS THE ONLY INSTITUTION OF HIGHER EDUCATION IN THE SOUTH BAY PUBLIC EDUCATION IN THE SOUTH BAY. UM, WE TAKE PRIDE IN, IN SERVING OUR COMMUNITY. AS YOU CAN SEE, OUR SERVICE AREA INCLUDES NATIONAL CITY, CHULA VISTA, OTAI MESA, SAN YSIDRO, AND WE EVEN HAVE OUR, OUR ON THE CORONADO, UM, OUR AQUATIC CENTER. UM, THE DISTRICT IS COMMITTED TO SERVING AND PROVIDING ACCESS TO ALL RESIDENTS OF ITS COMMUNITY. AND, UM, IT'S JUST ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANNA POINT OUT. WE ALSO ARE AT THE HEART OF THE BINATIONAL REGION AS WELL. UM, I'M HERE TO SHARE WITH YOU A LITTLE BIT, MAYOR, WHAT YOU HEARD LAST WEEK, RIGHT, WITH DR. SANCHEZ ABOUT OUR EDUCATIONAL VISION PLAN FOR, UM, THE COLLEGE FOR 2030. THE PLAN OUTLINES FIVE GOALS. THE GOALS STAY STEM FROM EVERYTHING FROM PROVIDING CAREER, EDUCATION AND ACCESS TO PROFESSIONAL CAREERS SO THAT THE STUDENTS CAN GET JOBS AND EMPLOYED UPON GRADUATION, AND ALSO STRENGTHEN OUR TRANSFER PROGRAMS TO THE FOUR YEAR UNIVERSITIES. BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE ALSO ARE FOCUSING ON OUR PROGRAMS TO BRING AND PARTNERSHIPS TO BRING MORE BACCALAUREATE DEGREE PROGRAMS HERE IN THE SOUTH BAY. UM, AND THAT'S THROUGH EXPANDED PARTNERSHIPS WITH UNIVERSITIES. THE OTHER THING WE'D LIKE TO DO WITHIN THIS PLAN, OUR VISION IS TO STRENGTHEN AND EXPAND OUR ACADEMIC SUPPORT SERVICES, OUR STUDENT SUPPORT SERVICES, AND ALSO BE RESPONSIVE AND MONITOR IN THE DEMOGRAPHIC CHANGES THAT OCCUR WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY. FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF THE ONES THAT WE KNOW IS OUR API COMMUNITY, UM, IS GOING TO EXPAND BY 2050. I THINK THEY SAID IT'S GOING TO DOUBLE IN SIZE. SO THE COLLEGE IS REALLY STRENGTHENING AND ENHANCING OUR LEARNING COMMUNITIES, IN PARTICULAR FOR OUR API POPULATION. AND FINALLY, WE WANNA ENSURE THAT STUDENTS HAVE A, A QUALITY LEARNING ENVIRONMENT. SO NO MATTER WHAT CAMPUS THEY ARE AND WHAT BUILDING THEY ARE, THEY HAVE A SAFE AND PRODUCTIVE LEARNING ENVIRONMENT. THE NEXT SLIDE I'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU IS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT EQUITY. EQUITY IS AT THE FOUNDATION OF EVERYTHING WE DO AT SOUTHWESTERN COLLEGE. IT IS NOT A STANDALONE INITIATIVE OR STRATEGY, IT'S EMBEDDED IN EVERYTHING THAT WE DO. WE ARE, UH, IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE STATE CHANCELLOR'S OFFICES GOALS FOR EQUITY FOR 2023. WE ARE PROUD TO SHARE WITH YOU SOME OF THE MILESTONES THAT WE HAVE ACHIEVED LAST YEAR. DR. SANCHEZ, WITH A GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS WE'RE ABLE TO ADVOCATE FOR AND GET PAST ASSEMBLY BILL 91, WHICH AFFORDS OUR BINATIONAL STUDENTS THE OPPORTUNITY TO STUDY HERE, UM, WITH US AT, IN-STATE, TUITION RATES, WHICH ARE $46 PER UNIT COMPARED TO OVER $400 PER UNIT. SO ONCE AGAIN, PROVIDING ACCESS AND, UM, TO AFFORDABLE HIGHER EDUCATION OPPORTUNITIES FOR THOSE STUDENTS. UM, WE ALSO HAVE, UM, UH, A ROBUST DUAL ENROLLMENT PROGRAM. DUAL ENROLLMENT IS WORKING, UM, DILIGENTLY WITH OUR HIGH SCHOOL PARTNERS HERE LOCALLY IN THE SOUTH BAY TO PROVIDE, UH, COLLEGE LEVEL INSTRUCTION AT THE HIGH SCHOOLS. OUR PROFESSORS GO TO HIGH SCHOOLS FOR AFFORD THE STUDENTS THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE COLLEGE LEVEL CLASS WORK THAT COUNTS TOWARDS THEIR DIPLOMA, AS WELL AS ADVANCEMENT TOWARDS THEIR HIGHER EDUCATION OR ASSOCIATE'S DEGREE WITH US. SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO AS FAR AS ACCESS. WE ARE ALSO WORKING WITH UNIVERSITY PARTNERS, UM, RESEARCHERS, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UM, AGENCIES, THE LOCAL CITY IN PARTICULAR WITH CHULA VISTA IN CREATING A HUB FOR OUR UNIVERSITY PARTNERS. AND WE WANT TO OFFER THOSE BACCALAUREATE DEGREES HERE IN TOWN SO THE STUDENTS DON'T NEED TO LEAVE AND GO ELSEWHERE TO PURSUE THEIR HIGHER EDUCATION OPPORTUNITIES. UM, OUR LATEST PARTNER, WHICH JUST MOVED IN LAST WEEK, IS ARIZONA STATE UNIVERSITY. AND THEY ARE, UM, ALREADY BEGINNING PLANS TO OFFER A BACCALAUREATE DEGREE HERE AT SOUTHWESTERN COLLEGE. SO THAT'S PRETTY EXCITING. THE NEXT THING IS EQUITY AND SUPPORT FOR OUR STUDENTS. WE'VE ACHIEVED SOME MILESTONES HERE. FIRST OF ALL, I WANNA REPORT THAT, UM, OUR ENROLLMENT THIS SEMESTER HERE AT SOUTHWESTERN COLLEGE IS ACTUALLY 3.5% ABOVE PRE PANDEMIC LEVELS. [00:45:01] SO GREAT ENROLLMENT STATISTICS. WE'VE DISPERSED OVER $31 MILLION IN FINANCIAL AID AND WE ARE PLANNING ON A MAY GRADUATION THAT'S GONNA BE BOOMING WITH OVER 3,600 GRADUATES ACHIEVING EITHER AN ASSOCIATE'S DEGREE OR A CERTIFICATE DEGREE. AND AS FAR AS OUR, UM, ACCESS AS WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE PROUD OF IS OUR RESTORATIVE JUSTICE PROGRAM HOUSED HERE AT OUR NATIONAL CITY CAMPUS. IT PROVIDES ACCESS TO HIGHER EDUCATION OPPORTUNITIES AT RJD RICHARD DONOVAN'S, UM, STATE PRISON. AND CURRENTLY WE HAVE THIS SEMESTER 420 STUDENTS STUDYING WITH US AT THE PRISON. AND LOCALLY NOW TO NATIONAL CITY, WHICH I'M MOST PROUD OF. UM, WE HAVE, UM, A LOT TO REPORT TO YOU. OUR ENROLLMENT HERE AT THE CENTER IS THE HIGHEST EVER. WE'VE NEVER HAD THIS MANY STUDENTS THIS SEMESTER. WE HAVE OVER 3,500 STUDENTS STUDYING HERE AT NATIONAL CITY. ONE OF THE NEWEST ENDEAVORS IS OUR WEEKEND COLLEGE. WE JUST BEGAN LAST FALL SEMESTER. UM, WE ARE PROVIDING ACCESS TO STUDENTS PRETTY MUCH ANY DAY OF THE WEEK, ANY TIME OF THE WEEK TO HIGHER EDUCATION. WE ARE OFFERING COURSES, EVERYTHING FROM BIOLOGY TO CHEMISTRY TO TAI CHI AND YOGA ON THE WEEKENDS. SO PLEASE COME JOIN US IF YOU WANNA STAY PHYSICALLY FIT OR, OR TAKE ONE OF OUR GENERAL EDUCATION COURSES. UM, AND THIS, THIS SEMESTER WE HAVE OVER 700 STUDENTS STUDYING WITH US ON THE WEEKEND. AND I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DID NOT MENTION OUR CENTER FOR BUSINESS ADVANCEMENT. UM, SOUTHWESTERN COLLEGES IS HOME TO OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS, OUR SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT CENTER AND NETWORK, AS WELL AS OUR WOMEN'S BUSINESS CENTER AND OUR APEX ACCELERATOR. AND ONE OF THEIR STATISTICS FROM LAST YEAR WAS THAT THEY CREATED 1 BILLION, THAT'S BILLION WITH A B AND ECONOMIC IMPACT IN OUR REGION. THEY SERVED OVER, UM, 5,400 CLIENTS. SO GREAT IMPACT REGIONALLY THAT THEY'RE HAVING IN OUR, UH, LOCAL COMMUNITY AS WELL BECAUSE THEY ARE HOUSED RIGHT HERE AT OUR CENTER NATIONAL CITY. I WANT TO, UM, MENTION TO JOSE, THANK YOU FOR COMING AND VISITING THE CHULA VISTA CAMPUS AND IN PARTICULAR OUR DREAMER CENTER. I KNOW THAT YOU HAD ASKED ABOUT OUR UNDOCUMENTED STUDENTS AND IN PARTICULAR HOW MANY STUDY HERE WITH US IN NATIONAL CITY. AND WE ARE, UM, HAPPY TO SAY THAT WE HAVE 130 STUDENTS WHO ARE UNDOCUMENTED STUDYING HERE AT NATIONAL CITY, WHICH EQUATES OUT TO ABOUT 18% OF THE TOTAL NUMBER OF UNDOCUMENTED STUDENTS AT SOUTHWESTERN COLLEGE. AND, UM, REALIZE THAT NUMBER MAY BE ALTERED BECAUSE SOME DO HAVE APPREHENSION ABOUT DECLARING THEIR STATUS. MM-HMM, . OKAY. UM, ANOTHER THING, UM, WITH OUR NATIONAL CITY, UH, CAMPUS HERE IS THAT, UM, WE NOTICED OUR STUDENTS HAVE A HIGH, UM, NEED BASED ON THEIR UTILIZATION OF WHAT WE CALL OUR BASIC NEEDS. FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE A JAG KITCHEN AT, WE CALL IT, IT'S OUR FOOD PANTRY. SO THERE'S SUCH A DEMAND AND NEED, AND WE EVEN EXP EXPANDED THOSE SERVICES INTO THE WEEKEND AS WELL. AND WE'RE SEEING THAT THEY'RE HIGHLY RECEIVED THEN AS WELL. AND, UM, WE ALSO HAVE THE RECEIPT OF FINANCIAL AID, AND THAT'S A HIGH DRAWER FOR OUR STUDENTS FROM NATIONAL CITY WITH THEIR PELL GRANT APPLICATIONS AS WELL. AND, UM, PRETTY MUCH WE HAVE A STUDENT BODY IN NEED AND THE COLLEGE'S ENDEAVORS TO, TO SATISFY THOSE NEEDS. WE RECOGNIZE THAT FOR A STUDENT TO SUCCEED ACADEMICALLY, YES, THEY HAVE TO BE, UH, SUPPORTED WITH THEIR TUTORING AND ACADEMIC SUPPORT SERVICES, BUT WE'VE ALSO RECOGNIZED THE WHOLE INDIVIDUAL AND WE REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR BASIC NEEDS ARE BEING MET SO THAT THEY CAN LEARN AND THAT THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, HAVE, UH, WORK OPPORTUNITIES AND THAT THEY CAN HAVE GOOD RELATIONSHIPS. WE ARE VERY PROUD TO CONTINUE OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY, WHICH HAS BEEN LONG TERM. UM, AND WE WANT TO PARTNER WITH YOU AND CONTINUE OUR PARTNERSHIP TO SERVE THE RESIDENTS HERE IN TOWN. AND THANK YOU. AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS, ANYTHING FROM ANYONE. AND YOU CAN LET ME KNOW IF, UH, REMEMBER YOANI PUTS HER HAND UP OR WHATEVER. 'CAUSE I, OTHERWISE I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SEE IT. OKAY. WELL, GREAT. OKAY. OH, UH, REMEMBER RODRIGUEZ, UH, NO QUESTIONS. MORE LIKE A COMMENT. MM-HMM. . UM, THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR THE FANTASTIC WORK YOU DO. THANK YOU. UM, I'M A PRODUCT OF COMMUNITY COLLEGE AS WELL, ALTHOUGH NOW SOUTHWESTERN MM-HMM. , UH, I WENT TO, WE'LL FORGIVE YOU . I WENT TO CITY COLLEGE AND, UH, I MEAN, FOLKS THAT ATTEND, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY COLLEGES CERTAINLY HAVE A DISTINCTIVE PATH MM-HMM. THAN MOST COLLEGE GRADUATES AND, UH, OFTEN HA HAVE LIKE A, A WORK EXPERIENCE BEFOREHAND. SO THEY ARE A VERY DIFFERENT KIND OF SEGMENT OF THE POPULATION. AND I, I WOULDN'T BE HERE IF IT WASN'T FOR OUR [00:50:01] COMMUNITY COLLEGE SYSTEM. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO. UM, I WASN'T AWARE THAT OUR OWN, UM, UH, INSTITUTION HERE MM-HMM. HOSTED SO MANY STUDENTS. YES. 3,500 IS, IS SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF STUDENTS HERE. MM-HMM. . UM, AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE SUPPORT TO OUR UNDOCUMENTED YOUTH. YOU WELCOME. UM, YEAH, OVER 130 STUDENTS IS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF STUDENTS WITHIN NATIONAL CITY, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. WELL, THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY. AND I TOO AM A PRODUCT OF COMMUNITY COLLEGE, SO YES, WE ARE A SPECIAL BREED. YES, . THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. LET ME JUST SAY THAT, UH, YEAH, SOUTHWESTERN HAS BEEN, UH, HAS BEEN MORE THAN AN INSTITUTION WITHIN OUR AREA. AND, UH, WHEN I FIRST ATTENDED, UH, SOUTHWESTERN, IT HADN'T BEEN, IT HADN'T BEEN OUT OF THE GROUND VERY LONG. WE PUT IT THAT WAY. AND RIGHT NOW YOU'RE OUT THERE, AND I WAS OUT THERE LAST WEEK, OF COURSE FOR YOUR, UH, UH, YOUR CEREMONY AND, AND LOOKING AT THE STATE OF THE STATE OF THE DISTRICT AND, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT COMPLETE DEVELOPMENT AROUND THERE. WHEN I WENT THERE, THERE WAS NOTHING BUT TOMATO FIELDS AROUND IT. AND EVERYONE WONDERED WHY IT WAS WAY OUT THERE AND THERE WAS NOBODY AROUND IT. WELL, OF COURSE THAT HAS CHANGED DRASTICALLY, UH, AS TIME, AS TIME HAS WENT ON. BUT, UH, UH, BUT AS I SAY, UH, A GREAT INSTITUTION THAT HAS, THAT HAS MEANT SO MUCH AND WE ARE SO PROUD OF HAVING THE FACILITY HERE IN NASHVILLE CITY, UM, AND ALL THAT IT DOES FOR OUR COMMUNITY. AND I KNOW MY TWO OF MY CHILDREN, UH, THEY GOT ALL OF THEIR GENERAL EDUCATION COURSES OUTTA THE WAY HERE WITHOUT HAVING TO GO ALL THE WAY OUT THERE BEFORE THEY TRANSFERRED. AND SO, UH, YOU KNOW, AND SO THAT'S A GREAT HELP. AND I, I, I TELL PEOPLE ABOUT THAT ALL THE TIME. YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY, THEY TALK ABOUT, WELL, WE HAVE A HARD TIME GETTING TRANSPORTATION, GETTING OUT THERE. IT'S A LONG WAY OUT THERE OR WHATEVER FROM HERE, FROM NATIONAL CITY. AND AS YOU KNOW, PEOPLE IN NATIONAL CITY DON'T LIKE TO CROSS THE RIVER. I MEAN, IT'S JUST, THAT'S JUST, THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT, ABOUT THAT, BUT IT'S, UH, UH, BUT THE, UH, BUT YOU KNOW, I LET 'EM KNOW YOU'VE GOT THE EXACT SAME TEACHERS, THE EXACT SAME, THE EXACT SAME BOOKS, EVERYTHING IS IDENTICALLY THE SAME. AND IT'S RIGHT HERE. AND YOU CAN TAKE AT LEAST, AT THE VERY LEAST YOUR FIRST YEAR AND GET RID OF, YOU KNOW, ALL YOUR, A LOT OF GENERAL EDUCATION THINGS ON THAT LINE. AND IT'S, UH, AND IT IS A, IT'S, IT'S BEEN A REAL BOOM FOR OUR AREA. SO ONCE AGAIN, YOU ARE VERY, VERY MUCH APPRECIATED FOR ALL THAT YOU DO. MAYOR, CAN I MAKE A COMMENT? ABSOLUTELY. UH, I'M, I'M JUST, I'M REALLY HAPPY TO SEE THIS. UH, I'M BEN MARTINEZ. I'M THE CITY MANAGER. AND, AND I WANTED TO TELL YOU, UH, CHRISTINE, WE DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO MEET, BUT I, AND, AND THE MAYOR AT THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WEREN'T AROUND AT THE TIME, WE WERE AT THE GROUNDBREAKING FOR THE CENTER, YOU KNOW, IN 2003, I BELIEVE IT WAS. YEAH, IT WAS ABOUT THAT 2003. SO DEAN KENNY MCKINNEY, OR KENNY DEAN KENNY WAS THE DEAN. AND TO HEAR THE REPORT, TO HEAR HOW MANY COURSES ARE BEING OFFERED, ET CETERA, THIS MANY YEARS LATER IS, IS VERY, IT'S JUST AMAZING. I, I'LL, IT'S AN AMAZING, UM, REPORT FOR ME TO HEAR ALL THESE YEARS LATER. I HAD A PREVIOUS LIFE HERE. I LEFT THE CITY FOR ABOUT 16, 17 YEARS, CAME BACK AND SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS THE PROJECT THOUGH THAT I WORKED ON WITH, UM, UH, JOHN WILSON AND MANY OTHER FOLKS. UH MM-HMM. AT THE COLLEGE. SO IT'S JUST, IT'S AN AMAZING SITUATION TO HAVE YOU HERE AND SEE THE PROGRESS. THANK YOU. YEAH. AND, AND I SHOULD SAY THAT ORIGINAL GROUNDBREAKING IN THE ORIGINAL, UH, CAMPUS, UH, THE STATE DIDN'T HAVE THE MONEY FOR IT AND THE COLLEGE DISTRICT DIDN'T. AND AT THAT TIME WE HAD A REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY AND THE CITY SPENT FOR THAT TWO BLOCKS THAT WE HAVE THERE, WE CLOSED NINTH STREET AND FOR THOSE TWO BLOCKS, THE CITY PUT $20 MILLION INTO THOSE TWO BLOCKS, UH, TO MAKE THE COLLEGE, UM, UM, EVEN POSSIBLE. AND, UH, OF COURSE NOT TOO, AND NOT TOO LONG AFTER THAT, A FEW YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, UH, THE GOVERNOR AT THAT POINT SAID, WELL, CITIES AREN'T USING THEIR REDEVELOPMENT MONEY FOR EDUCATION AND SO THEREFORE DO AWAY WITH REDEVELOPMENT AGENCIES. WE GO, WHAT ABOUT OUR $20 MILLION? BUT ANYWAY, IT WAS MONEY VERY WELL SPENT. WELL, THANK YOU FOR SUPPORT. I DUNNO IF THERE'S ANY FOOTBALL OH, FOOTBALL PROGRAM. THAT COULD BE FUN. OKAY, OJAS, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UH, NEXT [8.1 Appointments: City Boards, Commissions and Committees – Mayoral Appointment for the Traffic Safety Committee.] WE HAVE A, UH, UH, INTERVIEWS AND APPOINTMENTS. WE, UM, BASIC APPOINTMENT, UH, WE HAVE A, UH, OPENING CAME UP ON THE TRAFFIC AND SAFETY COMMITTEE BECAUSE AN APPOINTMENT WE MADE AT A MEETING WAS TWO MEETINGS AGO. AND SO THERE IS, UH, THE REMAINDER OF THE TERM, WHICH GOES THROUGH SEPTEMBER AND, UH, UH, WHEN WE WILL BE LOOKING AT APPOINTMENTS AGAIN. AND SO I'LL BE, UH, APPOINTING, UH, [00:55:01] NATALIE BROWN, UH, UM, FOR THAT POSITION. SO THAT'S MY MOTION. YOU NEED A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. AND, UH, SO SEE NO OTHER DISCUSSION. COULD WE HAVE ROLL CALL PLEASE? COUNCIL MEMBER BUSH? YES. SEEN THAT? COUNCIL MEMBER RODRIGUEZ. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER MOLINA. YES. VICE MAYOR YAMANI. AYE. MAYOR MORRISON. AYE, CONGRATULATIONS. ALRIGHT. AND I DON'T SEE HER IN THE AUDIENCE, SO WE'LL HAVE TO CONTACT HER AND GET HER ALL SWORN AT. ALRIGHT, NEXT WE [9. REGIONAL BOARDS AND COMMITTEE REPORTS ] GET INTO OUR REGIONAL BOARDS AND COMMITTEE REPORTS. I'LL START DOWN HERE. THE LEFT. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. JUST A COUPLE OF REPORTS, UH, AT THE SANDAG PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MEETING, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER CAMPILLO IS REALLY LEADING AN EFFORT TO CREATE A REGIONAL HATE CRIME INCIDENT DATABASE THAT IT WOULD BE LED BY, UH, SANDAG AND, UH, ARGIS. MM-HMM. . UM, SO I DEFINITELY LOOK FORWARD TO THOSE ONGOING CONVERSATIONS. UM, AND I DO ALSO SIT ON THE BOARD OF CAL COG, UH, AS A REPRESENTATIVE TO SANDAG, UM, THROUGH THE STATE BUDGET CUTS, WHICH WE'VE HAD, UH, MANY. UM, WE ARE CERTAINLY GOING TO BE ADVOCATING FOR MORE FUNDING FOR, UH, HOUSING PLANNING, IN SUPPORT OF LOCAL AGENCIES. UH, WE DO HAVE OUR HOUSING ALLOCATION AND WE NEED ALSO SUPPORT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE BUILD ENOUGH HOUSING FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS, NOT JUST A NATIONAL CITY, BUT STATEWIDE. THANK YOU. GOOD LUCK WITH THAT ONE. THAT REQUEST. GOOD. GOT THE REPORT. GOT THE REPORT. OKAY. UM, I'M GONNA GO WITH MEMBER MO. THANK YOU MAYOR. YES. AT THE LAST SANDAG BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING, WE MET LAST FRIDAY AND HAD, UM, CLOSED SESSION INTERVIEWS FOR THE NEXT CEO AND I'M HAPPY TO ANNOUNCE THAT THERE IS A CANDIDATE THAT WAS SELECTED. UH, THE DISCLOSURE OF THIS INDIVIDUAL WILL BE MADE PUBLIC, UH, ONCE THE NEGOTIATIONS, UH, TAKE PLACE. BUT, UM, IT IS EXCITING AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SHARING MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT WITH YOU IN THE FUTURE. VERY GOOD. REMEMBER ANI. THANK YOU MAYOR. UM, SAN DIEGO COMMUNITY POWER HAS PROPOSED AMENDMENTS OR, OR HAD PROVEN AMENDMENT TO THE REG REGULATORY AND LEGISLATIVE POLICY PLATFORM. THIS ENABLES THE ORGANIZATION TO MOVE SWIFTLY TO RESPOND TO ISSUES BEFORE LEGISLATURE AND EXECUTIVE BRANCH AGENCIES, INCLUDING THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION, THE CALIFORNIA ENERGY COMMISSION, CALIFORNIA INDEPENDENT SYSTEM OPERATOR, THE CALIFORNIA AIR RESOURCES BOARD, AND OTHERS. SO THAT SAN DIEGO COMMUNITY POWER'S VIEWS CAN BE HEARD ON IMPORTANT MATTERS IN A TIMELY FASHION. UM, FOR SAN DIEGO COMMUNITY, UH, FOR SAN DIEGO COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY MAYOR, UM, AND COUNCIL. THE, UM, THE AGENCIES ADOPTED POSITIONS ON VARIOUS STATE BILLS. UM, THE BOARD ADOPTED A POSITION ON SUPPORT OF THE LOW INCOME HOUSEHOLD WATER ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, UH, WHICH IS CALLED THE ESTABLISHMENT ACT, UM, BY SENATOR ALEX PADILLA. UM, IN SUPPORT OF AB 2 2 57, UM, RELATING TO LOCAL GOVERNMENT, PROPERTY RELATED WATER AND SEWER FEES AND ASSESSMENTS. UM, AB 2 4 0 9, UM, RELATING TO OFFICE OF PLANNING AND RESEARCH PERMITTING ACCOUNTABILITY TRANSPARENCY DASHBOARD AB 2 7 1 5 BURNER B WARNER, RELATING TO RALPH M. BROWN ACT. UM, REGARDING CLOSED SESSIONS, SB 10 72 PADILLA RELATING TO LOCAL GOVERNMENT, UM, TO, UM, UH, ON PROPOSITION TWO 18, UM, SB 1218 NEWMAN RELATING TO EMERGENCY WATER SUPPLIES, UM, FOR THE METRO, UM, THE METRO WASTE, UM, JOINT POWERS, UM, AGENCY MAYOR. UM, THERE ARE, THE BOARD HAD ADAPTED TO CLEAN UP SOME, UM, SOME, UM, OPERATIONAL AND ADMINISTRATIVE, UM, UM, ISSUES OR, OR CONCERNS. AND THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE, UH, AGENDA ITEM TODAY FOR SWEETWATER AUTHORITY. UH, SWEETWATER AUTHORITY MAYOR, AS YOU KNOW, WE ARE HERE AT THE, UM, FOR LEGISLATIVE MEETINGS WITH OUR LEGISLATORS TO REPORT ON, UM, OUR, UM, YOU KNOW, AND INFRASTRUCTURE IN IN OUR REGION. THANK YOU, MAYOR. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. UM, YEAH, REAL QUICKLY ON, UH, SWEETWATER AUTHORITY, UH, WE ARE TRYING TO WRAP UP LABOR NEGOTIATIONS. UM, AND SO WE ARE CONTINUING TO WORK ON THAT AND THAT'S TAKING A LOT OF OUR TIME. AND, UH, BUT WE'RE ALSO TAKING A LOOK AT A NUMBER OF OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE COMING UP AND [01:00:01] SO THAT WE'RE GONNA BE COMING BACK ON. AND SOME OF 'EM ARE CONTROVERSIAL. UH, THE WHOLE THING WITH, UH, PUTTING SOLAR PANELS ON THE WATER AT SWEETWATER, UH, RESERVOIR, SO ACTUALLY HAVE FLOATING SOLAR PANELS, UH, WHICH, UH, IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP AND IT'S GONNA BE, I'M SURE THERE'S GONNA BE SOME CONTROVERSY AROUND THAT ONE AND SOME, BUT WE WILL, UH, BE DEALING WITH THAT ONE. SO THERE'S A, THERE'S A NUMBER OF, OF, UH, DIFFERENT AREAS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ON, ON NEW PROJECTS FOR WITHIN OUR AREA. UH, FOR THE REGIONAL SOLID WASTE ASSOCIATION. UH, WE HAD LEGISLATIVE, UH, WE SPENT LAST WEEK A GOOD AMOUNT OF TIME DEALING WITH THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS. THERE IS A TON OF BILLS THAT DEAL WITH EVERYTHING ON REGULATING EVERYTHING THAT WE ARE GOING TO THROW OUT OR NEVER GONNA BE ABLE TO THROW OUT OR BE ABLE TO DISPOSE OR HOW WE'RE GONNA RECYCLE OR, UH, IT IS BEING MICROMANAGED LIKE YOU WOULDN'T BELIEVE. AND A WHOLE LOT NEW REPORTING FOR THE CITIES, UH, ARE GONNA BE COMING UP. AND SO, UM, IT'S, SO WE'RE TRYING TO WORK OUR WAY THROUGH THAT. AT THE SAME TIME, WE'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH, UM, SOME DIFFERENT AGENCIES TO GO AHEAD AND HELP THE CITIES TO WORK THROUGH THAT. SO EACH CITY'S NOT HAVING TO DO IT ON THEIR OWN. AND, UH, 'CAUSE I SAY IT GETS QUITE CONFUSING. UH, WE ALSO HAD THE ELECTION OF OFFICERS, UH, ON OUR MEETING, WAS IT LAST WEEK. AND, UH, I WAS CHOSEN ONCE AGAIN TO CONTINUE TO, UH, CHAIR THE, UH, UH, THE ASSOCIATION. SO, AND, UH, SO WE'RE GOING IN SETTING OUR TWO YEAR, TWO YEAR, UH, BUDGET, UH, HERE THIS NEXT MONTH, UH, WE'LL BE CONVENING A GROUP TO GO OVER THAT BUDGET AND TAKE A LOOK AT THAT FOR A TWO YEAR. WE DO TWO YEAR CYCLES, BUT IT'S EVERGREEN. SO EVERY, EVERY YEAR WE'RE DOING A TWO YEAR CYCLE. AND, UH, SO THAT'S THE NEXT ONE COMING UP WITH THAT. UH, OUR PORK COMMISSIONER, SAN RAHO. GREETINGS MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, CITY STAFF, RESIDENTS ARE HERE LIVE VIA ZOOM. I AM SANDY NARANJO, YOUR REPORT COMMISSIONER, HERE TO PROVIDE YOU UPDATES ON YOUR 34 MILES OF PUBLIC THAILANDS. SO WE HAD OUR BOARD MEETING ON WEDNESDAY, APRIL 3RD, AND AT THE MEETING WE HAD UNANIMOUSLY VOTED TO DECLARE THE TIJUANA RIVER VALLEY A CRISIS FOR BACKGROUND, I GREW UP IN SAN Y CED AND ATTENDED PRESCHOOL IN IMPERIAL BEACH. IT'S DISHEARTENING TO SEE THE EXPOSURE RISK, ESPECIALLY TO VULNERABLE POPULATIONS THREATENING THEIR QUALITY LIFE. I RECOMMEND EVERYONE TO REVIEW THE WHITE PAPER, TIJUANA RIVER CONTAMINATION FROM URBAN RUNOFF IN SEWAGE, A PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS AT THE BORDER, AS IT IS DISHEARTENING TO SEE THE IMPACTS THAT RESIDENTS HAVE TO ENDURE. HERE ARE BITS OF INFO FROM THE WHITE PAPER. CURRENT REGULATION AND MONITORING MEASURES ARE INADEQUATE IN RELATION TO KNOWN CONTAMINANTS PRESENTING A PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS DUE TO THE POTENTIAL HEALTH RISKS FROM HARMFUL VIRUSES, BACTERIA, PARASITES, AND TOXIC CHEMICALS IN THE WATER AND AIR ALARMY CONTAMINATION FOR THE NEARBY TIJUANA RIVER CAN SPREAD ACROSS COMMUNITIES LIKE SAN YSIDRO AND APPAREL, BEACH INFILTRATING HOMES, CHILDCARE CENTERS, AND SCHOOLS, THEREBY INCREASING HEALTH RISKS WITHOUT DIRECT WATER CONTACT. I'M GLAD TO STAND IN SOLIDARITY WITH OUR PORT SISTER, MEMBER CITY, IMP PEREL BEACH, AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT OUR MA UH, IMPERIAL BEACH MAYOR, COASTAL COMMISSIONER PALOMA, AND THE COMMUNITY IN DEMANDING BOTH GOVERNOR NEWSOM AND PRESIDENT BIDEN TO DECLARE TIJUANA RIVER VALLEY A CRISIS. NEXT UPDATE. THE PORT WILL BE HOSTING A BUDGET WORKSHOP NEXT TUESDAY, APRIL 23RD, FROM ONE TO FIVE AT THE PORT ADMINISTRATION BUILDING, WHICH IS, THE ADDRESS IS 31 65 PACIFIC HIGHWAY, SAN DIEGO, 9 2 1 1. SO YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK. WE HAVE THE DRAFT BUDGET OUT, HOPE THAT YOU CAN ALL ATTEND. AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, I'D LIKE TO CLARIFY THE CURRENT SITUATION REGARDING AB 27 83 AUTHORED BY ASSEMBLY MEMBER ALVAREZ. I'D LIKE TO NOTE THAT THE BILL IS INCLUDED IN THE POLICY 1 0 5 REQUEST ON THE AGENDA AS THIS LEGISL LEGISLATION WAS DRAFTED IN RESPONSE TO THE GRAND JURY'S RECOMMENDATION FOR IMPROVED ETHICS, TRANSPARENCY, AND ACCOUNTABILITY AT THE PORT OF SAN DIEGO. IMPORTANTLY, THE PORT OF SAN DIEGO, WE HAVE NOT HELD A PUBLIC DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS BILL. INSTEAD, THE PORT, UH, HAS FORMED AN AD HOC COMMITTEE, UH, WHICH WAS ESTABLISHED TO EXAMINE THE BILL. THE COMMITTEE CONSISTS OF THREE COMMISSIONERS, WHICH IS FRANK RESIN, MICHAEL SETTE, AND DAN MALCOLM LAST WEEK. THE BILL WAS REVIEWED BY, UH, UH, UH, ASSEMBLY COMMITTEE, AND, UM, THE PORT HAD SENT OVER, UM, COMMISSIONER DAN MOORE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION. AND AGAIN, TO REITERATE, THE PORT HAS NOT ENGAGED IN PUBLIC DISCUSSION OR DECIDED AT A FULL BOARD LEVEL ON OUR POSITION ON THIS BILL. HOWEVER, I HAVE LEARNED NOT THAT LONG AGO, ABOUT AN HOUR AGO, THAT WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF SCHEDULING A SPECIAL MEETING TO DISCUSS THIS LEGISLATION EITHER FRIDAY OR MONDAY. AND AGAIN, ALL AGENDAS ARE POSTED ON THE WEBSITE. AND, AND JUST FOR EVERYONE TO KNOW WHEN WE HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING, IT IS [01:05:01] 24 HOURS IN ADVANCE. SO I WILL KEEP YOU ALL UPDATED AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. OH, UM, MEMBER MOLINA, THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER NARANJO, FOR ALL OF THE WORK THAT YOU DO, UH, YOUR CONTINUED WORK ON THE PORT REPRESENTING NATIONAL CITY. I'M CURIOUS TO ASK ABOUT THE DECLARATION FOR THE TIJUANA RIVER VALLEY. THIS IS THE PORT DECLARING THIS A CRISIS. DOES THAT, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO THE PORT? DOES THAT MEAN THE PORT WILL RELEASE SOME TYPE OF FUNDING TO HELP IN THAT AREA, OR, UM, WHAT IS THE MEANING OF THIS? WELL, IT IS, UH, REALLY A SYMBOLIC MEANING FOR A PUBLIC, A FULL PUBLIC AGENCY TO DECLARE, UM, A CRISIS. BECAUSE AS YOU CAN SEE THAT GOVERNOR NEWSOM HAS NOT DECLARED IT. AND I JUST WANNA BE GRATEFUL TO GOVERNOR NEWSOM AND PER FIGHTING FOR PUTTING FUNDING OUT THERE TO SUPPORT OUR SISTER CITY, BUT THEY HAVE NOT DECLARED IT A CRISIS. AND WHEN IT'S DECLARED A CRISIS, THAT MEANS THAT WE CAN, UH, ELIMINATE ANY KIND OF RED TAPE TO GET THE IMMEDIATE FUNDING NEEDED TO ADDRESS THIS BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE'S LIFE, QUALITY LIFE. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEALTH DISASTER. YEAH, I ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH YOU. UH, BUT THIS DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT'S GONNA FREE UP FUNDS FROM THE PORT'S BUDGET TO HELP THIS CRISIS. NO. OKAY. THIS CURIOUS, THIS IS SOLIDARITY AND THIS IS US WORKING TOGETHER. SOUNDS GOOD. THANK YOU. UM, AND THEN JUST A FINAL COMMENT. I KNOW YOU MADE, UH, REMARKS ON AB 27 83, AND I DO WANNA HAVE FULL DISCLOSURE HERE. I WAS, I DO PARTICIPATE IN THE ADVOCACY FOR THE SUPPORT OF THIS BILL, AND I WAS PRESENT AT THAT MEETING THAT DANIELLE MOORE ATTENDED. UM, SHE WAS THERE IN OPPOSITION, AND I WAS THERE IN SUPPORT. AND NO, NO MORE COMMENTS FROM MAYOR. OH, UH, MEMBER BUSH. YEAH. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR HARD WORK ON BEHALF OF THE CITY. I JUST WANT TO, UH, SAY TOO, REGARDING THE PORTS, THERE IS AN ARTICLE THAT CAME OUT, UH, TO I NEWS SOURCE THAT I THINK FOLKS SHOULD READ ABOUT. UM, SO WE, WE CAN TALK LATER ABOUT 27 83. WE'RE GONNA BE DISCUSSING PUT, PUTTING THAT ON THE FUTURE AGENDA, BUT THE LACK OF TRANSPARENCY THERE, UH, THEM SPENDING PUBLIC DOLLARS ON LOBBYISTS TO OPPOSE THIS BILL WITHOUT DISCUSSION, I DON'T THINK THAT'S ACCEPTABLE. AND, UH, I WANT TO, UH, SHARE THIS, UH, THE PORT SPENT AS MUCH AS 741,000 IN LEGAL COSTS AND A SEVERANCE PAYOUT FOR ITS TOP EXECUTIVE. THAT INC. UH, SEPARATE, OR I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S SEPARATE OR INCLUDING, UH, THAT, UH, AN ADDITIONAL 155,000 SPENT ON AN INVESTIGATION INTO OUR COMMISSIONER, UH, NARANJO. UM, AND SO BETWEEN THAT, HIS DEPARTURE, THERE'S GRAND JURY REPORTS, THERE'S A LOT GOING ON HERE. SO WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS IT, UH, LATER. BUT I AM PLEASED TO HEAR THAT THE, UH, PORT IS GOING TO AGENDIZE THIS BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'RE, WE ARE A PUBLIC AGENCY, THE PORT IS A PUBLIC AGENCY, AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT ALL OF US OPERATE WITH TRANSPARENCY, ACCOUNTABILITY, AND APPRECIATE YOU DOING THAT AS WELL, COMMISSIONER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. OKAY, NEXT WE GO [10. CONSENT CALENDAR] ON TO CONSENT CALENDAR. I DO HAVE ONE PUBLIC REQUEST TO PULL ITEM 10.3, AND THAT'S THE ONLY REQUEST I HAVE AT THIS POINT. UH, I WOULD LIKE TO PULL ITEM 10.50, SORRY, VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER OR VICE MAYOR YAMANI. OH, I'M SORRY. THANK YOU. YES, MAYOR. DON'T FORGET ME. I'M STILL HERE. OKAY. . UM, MAYOR, I'LL ON THE SILVER SCREEN, I SEE YOU THINK COUNCIL MEMBER MAYOR. I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER'S PULLING 10.5. I'M PULLING 10.8. 10.8. OKAY. NOW, WHAT'D YOU SAY ABOUT, DID YOU SAY 10.5? I DID. I THINK MEMBER, MEMBER BUSH IS PULLING 10.5. MA'AM, YOU WENT PUT 10.5. OKAY. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? SEEING NOTHING ELSE, COULD I HAVE A MOTION FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE CALENDAR? MOVE TO APPROVE I SECOND. SECOND. OKAY. WAS THE SECOND. OKAY. THANK YOU. I THOUGHT I HEARD THAT ONE FIRST. COUNCIL MEMBER BUSH. OKAY. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER RODRIGUEZ. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER MOLINA? YES. VICE MAYOR IMANI. AYE. MAYOR MORRISON. AYE. OKAY, FIRST WE GO TO, [10.3 2023 Annual Military Equipment Use Report] UH, 10.3. THIS IS THE 2023 ANNUAL MILITARY EQUIPMENT USE REPORT. AND, UH, WE HAVE A, UH, EDWARD NETTEL. UH, YES, I JUST WANNA MENTION, UM, LAST YEAR I WAS, UH, INVITED AS PART OF THE COMMUNITY GROUP TO PARTICIPATE IN LOOKING AT THIS. UH, EQUIPMENT REVIEW, I THINK WAS A COMPLIANCE REQUIREMENT, AND I THOUGHT IT WAS GREAT. [01:10:01] I LEARNED A LOT ABOUT ALL THE EQUIPMENT THAT THE POLICE USE AND THE, AND THE INVENTORY. I LEARNED THAT, UH, A LOT OF IT'S IS INVENTORY THAT'S BEEN AROUND FOR A WHILE. AND I CAN'T HELP BUT COMPARE TO WHAT WE HAVE IN CHULA VISTA OR WHAT WE DO HAVE IN CHULA VISTA. YOU SEE IN THE NEWSPAPER, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE USING THE LATEST DRONES FOR POLICE, UH, PROTECTION. YET, YOU KNOW, WHEN I ASK ABOUT WHETHER OUR EQUIPMENT IS UP TO DATE, YOU KNOW, WELL, WE DO HAVE DRONES, BUT MAYBE IT'S NOT THE LATEST TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES THAT WE NEED. NOW, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A SAYING, YOU DON'T WALK OVER DOLLARS TO PICK UP PENNIES, YOU KNOW? UM, AND I THINK HAVING THE POLICE HAVE THE LATEST EQUIPMENT IS ONE OF THOSE SCENARIOS. YOU KNOW, IF THEY COULD HAVE THE LATEST EQUIPMENT, THERE PROBABLY IS MORE EFFICIENCY IN INVESTIGATING AND THERE'S A COST SAVINGS. SO THAT'S THE TYPE OF ANALYSIS I LIKE TO SEE IN ANY DECISION THAT'S BEING MADE IN THE BUDGET BEFORE YOU SPENT MONEY, WHAT ARE WE GETTING OUT OF IT? BECAUSE A LOT OF DECISIONS, WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE MAKING AND SPENDING MONEY, AND SPECIFICALLY FOR RODRIGUEZ, WE DON'T, WE'RE NOT KNOWING WHAT WE GET. OKAY. UH, CHIEF, ANY, UH, COMMENTS AS FAR AS WHY WE THESE PARTICULAR ITEMS? I MEAN, IS THERE A STRUCTURE TO THE SELECTION OR, SO, GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR COUNSEL. SO WE'RE HERE TODAY TO, UH, DO OUR ANNUAL MIL MILITARY EQUIPMENT USE REPORT AB 4 81. SO IT'S MANDATED BY LAW FOR US TO COME BEFORE YOU AND DISCUSS THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE HAVE. UM, TODAY PRESENTING WILL BE LIEUTENANT OMAR RAMIREZ AND HE'LL DISCUSS OUR EQUIPMENT AND THE ASK THAT WE HAVE. SO IT'LL, IT'LL GIVE A PRETTY GOOD BREAKDOWN THERE. OKAY. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL, STAFF AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS. MY NAME'S, UH, OMAR RAMIREZ. I'M A LIEUTENANT FOR THE NATIONAL CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT. I'M HERE TODAY TO PRESENT THE ANNUAL REPORT FOR THE DEPARTMENT'S MILITARY EQUIPMENT AND TO SEEK APPROVAL AND ADOPTION BY RESOLUTION. THE CONTINUED USE OF MILITARY EQUIPMENT AS DEFINED IN ASSEMBLY BILL 4 81 BY APPROVAL OF THE POLICY TO ACCEPT AND APPROVE THE AB 41 ANNUAL REPORT AND TO ACCEPT AND APPROVE THE UPDATED PROCEDURE. EFFECTIVE JANUARY 1ST, 2022, ASSEMBLY BILL 4 81 REQUIRED LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES TO OBTAIN APPROVAL FROM THE CITY'S GOVERNING BODY, WHICH IS THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL BY ADOPTION OF A MILITARY EQUIPMENT USE POLICY PRIOR TO TAKING CERTAIN ACTIONS RELATING TO THE USE FUNDING OR ACQUISITION OF SPECIFIED EQUIPMENT. IN APRIL EIGHT, UH, IN APRIL 18TH, 2023, THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY APPROVED RESOLUTION 2023 DASH 44. THE DEPARTMENT'S MILITARY EQUIPMENT USE POLICY AND PROCEDURE. THIS APPROVAL ENABLED THE CREATION OF POLICY 7 0 6 AND PROCEDURE 7 0 6 IN REGARD TO THE USE OF MILITARY EQUIPMENT. IMPORTANT THING TO NOTE HERE IS THAT THIS IS A REOCCURRING ANNUAL ASK AND ADOPTION REQUIRED BY AB 4 81. UM, REGARDLESS WHETHER WE ASK OR CHANGE THE POLICIES, OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD NOTE THEM IN THE YEAR PRESENTATION. UM, ON APRIL 2ND OF THIS YEAR, 2024, UH, WE HELD OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT MEETING AT THE NATIONAL CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT. WE PUBLICIZED IT IN A DEPARTMENT WEBSITE AND ALSO ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORM. UH, WE HAD ABOUT 24 ATTENDEES FROM THE COMMUNITY WHO ATTENDED AND ASKED, AND THIS SAME PRESENTATION WAS PRESENTED TO THEM, ANNUAL REPORT FROM THIS ADOPTED RESOLUTION. AND ACCORDING TO ASSEMBLY BILL 4 81, AN ANNUAL REPORT IS TO BE SUBMITTED TO THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL FOR CONTINUED APPROVAL OF THE POLICY AS WELL AS THE PROCEDURE AND INVENTORY OF THE EQUIPMENT. THIS ADOPTION OF THE MILITARY EQUIPMENT USE POLICY PROCEDURE, AN ANNUAL REPORT CONTINUES THE ABILITY FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO UTILIZE THESE TOOLS AND RESOURCES TO RESPOND TO THE CRITICAL INCIDENTS AND TO PROTECT THE COMMUNITY. THE 2023 ANNUAL REPORT DOCUMENTS HOW THE EQUIPMENT WAS USED, IF THERE WAS ANY COMPLAINTS OR CONCERNS, THE RESULT OF ANY INTERNAL AUDITS, THE ANNUAL COST, AND THE QUANTITY OF EQUIPMENT, AND ANY FUTURE ACQUISITIONS BEING REQUESTED. THIS IS, UH, AN EXAMPLE OF THE USE OF SEVERAL ITEMS AT A GLANCE. THIS IS WHAT OUR SWAT TEAM USED DURING THE PERIOD OF JANUARY, 2023 TO JANUARY OF 2024. THE FOLLOWING EQUIPMENT WAS USED EITHER FOR TRAINING [01:15:01] OR DURING A CRITICAL INCIDENT. THESE ARE JUST A FEW OF THE HIGHLIGHTS. TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE AT A GLANCE, UH, THE USE OF THE LIST OF THE EQUIPMENT, WHICH YOU GUYS ALL HAVE AND IT'S POSTED, IS, UH, A LONG LIST. SO THIS IS JUST A SMALL SNAPSHOT OF THAT. AS YOU CAN SEE, MOST OF THE USE OF THIS, UH, HAPPENS IN A TRAINING MODE OR TRAINING SCENARIO, AND THE ACTUAL DEPLOYMENTS ARE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE DEPLOYMENT. UH, TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING THAT'S NOT ON, ON THERE THAT WAS BROUGHT IS OUR UAVS OR OUR DRONES. IT'S COMMONLY KNOWN, UH, DURING THE CALENDAR YEAR OF 2023, WE HAD TOTAL OF NINE DEPLOYMENTS, SIX OF THOSE BEING IN A TRAINING CAPACITY, AND THREE OF THOSE BEING FOR ACTUAL, UH, POLICE USE OR IN, IN THE CAPACITY OF OUR FUNCTION. AND AS YOU GUYS NOTE IN THE BOTTOM, UH, THIS LIST IS LIKE, AGAIN, A ONLY A PORTION OF THE TOTAL EQUIPMENT AND USE THAT WE USE, UH, THE ASK, UH, THE ANNUAL REPORT LISTS ATTACHMENT A, WHICH YOU GUYS HAVE, AND DOCUMENTS WHICH ITEMS ARE BEING REQUESTED. SO WHAT WE ARE ASKING IS FOR TWO ADDITIONAL UNMANNED AERIAL VEHICLES, ALSO DRONES AND ACCESSORIES. ONE TACTICAL, IT'S RC, WHICH IS A REMOTE CONTROL, UH, ROBOT TO REPLACE. OR, UH, THE CURRENT ONE THAT WE HAVE, ONE ARMORED RESCUE VEHICLE AND TWO DANIEL DEFENSE RIFLES FOR OUR SWAT TEAM, THE TOTAL COST FOR THESE ITEMS, UH, IS ESTIMATED AT 20 1031. UH, THE REASON IS $463,000, WHICH WAS OBTAINED VIA A U UH, FEDERAL GRANT WOULD BE, WOULD BE USED FOR THE RESCUE VEHICLE. SO THAT WOULD BE A ZERO COST OUT OF THE CITY. UH, SO THE COST FOR THESE ITEMS THAT WE'RE ASKING AND, UH, ASKING FOR YOUR APPROVAL IS FOR $21,031. THE NATIONAL CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT IS RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING FOR APPROVAL, APPROVAL AND ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTION TO CONTINUE USING, UTILIZING THESE VALUABLE TOOLS TO PROTECT THE COMMUNITY. IN DOING SO, THE DEPARTMENT WILL BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN OUR OPERATIONAL READINESS AND OUR ABILITY TO RESPOND TO CRITICAL INCIDENTS IN A SAFE AND EFFECTIVE MANNER. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO PRESENT TO YOU TODAY. I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. ALRIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. UH, MEMBER MOLINA. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, LIEUTENANT LA UH, RAMIREZ FOR THIS PRESENTATION. UH, ALSO THE REPORT THAT WAS, UH, PART OF THE, UM, MEETING MATERIALS. I REALLY APPRECIATE THE LOOK OF THE REPORT, THE PICTURES OF WHAT, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THESE THINGS LOOK LIKE AND, AND WHAT IT MEANS. UM, UH, I DID MENTION IT TO CHIEF HERNANDEZ EARLIER THIS EVENING. THE, THE USE OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT WAS ACTUALLY USED. UH, DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE IN PART OF THAT REPORT, BUT I DO SEE IT HERE IN THIS SLIDE. AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE REPORT DOES INCLUDE THAT INFORMATION AS WELL. UH, AND THEN, UM, I LIKE THAT YOU EMPHASIZE THE USE OF ALL OF THIS EQUIPMENT. AND OF COURSE, OUR PD DEPARTMENT, UM, IS FOR THE PURPOSE OF, UH, THE PROTECTION OF OUR PUBLIC. AND I, I WANNA THANK ALL OF THE EFFORTS THAT ARE DONE BY OUR VERY STRONG, UM, OFFICERS THAT DO REPRESENT NATIONAL CITY. I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS YOUNG AND, UM, IT FELT A BIT LIKE A VERY DIFFERENT, UM, UH, VERY DIFFERENT PD DEPARTMENT. BUT TODAY I'M VERY HAPPY TO SEE THAT THERE IS A LOT MORE, UH, FACING THE COMMUNITY AND INVOLVING THE COMMUNITY. AND A LOT OF THIS, UM, I KNOW IT'S MANDATED TO HAVE A PUBLIC MEETING ABOUT THIS INFORMATION, BUT, UM, I'M HAPPY TO HEAR THAT IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAD PRETTY GOOD TURNOUT, 24 INDIVIDUALS. UM, DO YOU HAVE ANY INPUT ON, UM, ANY FEEDBACK FROM THESE INDIVIDUALS THAT ATTENDED THE MEETING? I DO. UM, THEY, UH, A LOT OF POSITIVE FEEDBACK, A LOT OF QUESTIONS AS WELL. I HAVE, UH, A LIST OF QUESTIONS THAT THEY ASKED DURING THIS PUBLIC MEETING. UH, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO SHARE SOME OF THEM? SURE. UH, ONE OF 'EM WAS, WHERE DOES OUR SWAT TEAM TRAIN? UH, THE ANSWER TO THAT IS ALL OVER THE COUNTY. UH, WE LOOK FOR FACILITIES WITHIN NATIONAL CITY. UH, WE USE ALL OF OUR FIREARMS TRAINING CENTERS LOCALLY, WHETHER IT'S OTAY, MESA, UH, SAN DIEGO, BUT WE TRY TO USE FACILITIES ALL OVER THE COUNTY. UH, ANOTHER QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED WAS, UH, REGARDING CHEMICAL AGENTS. UH, AS FAR AS WHEN WE TRAIN, DOES THE PUBLIC, UH, I'M SORRY, DO YOU TRAIN AS IF THE PUBLIC IS USING CHEMICAL AGENTS AGAINST THE POLICE OR IF THE POLICE IS USING THEM TOWARDS THE PUBLIC? AND THE ANSWER TO THAT IS BOTH. UH, WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO WORK THROUGH THOSE. UH, IF, IF THEY WERE DEPLOYED, WHICH THEY HAVE BEEN IN THE PAST AND SET, NOT HERE LOCALLY, BUT IN OTHER PARTS IN THE COUNTY AND THE NATION. AND WE ALSO TRAINED TO USE, UH, IF NEEDED ON [01:20:01] A SUSPECT IN ORDER TO SAFELY TAKE HIM INTO CUSTODY. UH, WHAT ARE THE PR PARAMETERS OF USING CHEMICAL AGENTS? UH, THEY'RE VERY LIMITED. UH, WE HAVE VERY STRICT REGULATIONS AS TO WHEN WE CAN DEPLOY 'EM, AND ALSO WHAT OFFICERS CAN DEPLOY 'EM IN A CERTAIN CAPACITY. EVERY OFFICER IS EQUIPPED WITH, UH, OC SPRAY, WHICH IS COMMONLY KNOWN AS PEPPER SPRAY. BUT IN ORDER TO DEPLOY ACTUAL CHEMICAL AGENTS, AS WE'VE SEEN ON THE NEWS OR, OR THE MEDIA, UH, IN A RIOT SITUATION, THOSE CAN ONLY BE DEPLOYED BY SPECIFICALLY TRAINED OFFICERS AND IN A VERY LIMITED CAPACITY. SO THEY'RE NOT USED FREELY. UM, THE PRIMARY USE OF THAT IS TO MAKE A, UH, A BARRICADED SUBJECT THAT COULD BE A DANGER TO THE COMMUNITY OR TO OFFICERS TO MAKE THEM UNCOMFORTABLE ENOUGH TO SURRENDER PEACEFULLY. UH, THE NEXT QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED ABOUT THE USE OF AMMUNITION, THERE WAS A LARGE AMOUNT OF AMMUNITION THAT WAS USED, THAT'S A SINGLE AMMUNITION USED, BUT THE POINT THEY WERE ASKING, THEY'RE LIKE, HOW MANY WERE USED TO THE PUBLIC? AND THE ANSWER WAS ZERO. UH, THE OFFICERS WERE NOT INVOLVED IN THE CALENDAR YEAR OF 2023 IN ANY OFFICER INVOLVED INCIDENTS? MM-HMM. , THANKFULLY. UM, THE POLICIES, AGAIN, ABOUT OUR DRONE PROGRAM, UH, THEY ASKED ABOUT THE POLICIES THAT WE DISCUSSED, THE FACT THAT OUR POLICIES ARE PUBLIC INFORMATION THEY'RE ON, ON THE WEBSITE. AND THAT ALSO WE HAVE VERY LIMITED AND RESTRICTED USE OF OUR DRONES. AND IT'S VERY SPECIFIED SPECIFIC REASONS AS TO WHY WE CAN USE 'EM. UM, ANOTHER QUESTION. HOW DOES OUR ROBOT NAVIGATE? AND ESSENTIALLY, IT'S A REMOTE CONTROL CAR THAT'S, UH, VERY RESILIENT TO, UH, TO TERRAIN. MM-HMM. AND CAN BE, UH, DEPLOYED INSIDE OF BUSINESSES OR RESIDENCE. AND THE QUESTION IS, WHAT HAPPENS IF SOMEONE SHOOTS AT IT? UH, THE ANSWER IS, UH, IT CAN BE DISABLED POTENTIALLY. UM, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS, UH, HOW DO YOU NAVIGATE THE FEAR THAT THE COMMUNITY MIGHT HAVE WITH THE POLICE? UM, THE WAY THAT THAT WAS ANSWERED WAS BY CONTINUING TO BUILD RELATIONSHIPS AND HAVING CONVERSATIONS AND OPEN DIALOGUE ABOUT WHAT OUR ROLE IS. AND, AND OUR ULTIMATE GOAL TO PROTECT THE COMMUNITY IS, UM, OUT OF THAT. AND THAT WAS PART OF A FAITH-BASED, UH, LEADER THAT WAS PRESENT. AND PART OF THAT WE ENCOURAGED TO CONTINUE THE RELATIONSHIPS AND TO INVITE US TO THEIR CONGREGATION SO WE CAN CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION AND REALLY INTRODUCE AND EXPLAIN MORE OF WHAT WE DO. MM-HMM. , UM, FINALLY, UH, IS I WAS ASKED WHY I USE THE WORD MILITARY WHEN DOING THIS PRESENTATION, UH, BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE IT CAN BE VERY AGGRESSIVE. UH, AND THE ANSWER TO THAT IS THE ASSEMBLY BILL HAS, UH, REQUIRES US TO USE IT, AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT I THINK THE EASIEST WAY TO EXPLAIN IT IS TO EXPLAIN THAT THAT'S PART OF THE ASSEMBLY BILL. AND NOT NECESSARILY HOW WE DEEM IT, BUT HOW WE, THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA DECIDED TO DEEM EVERY PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT WE USE. UH, AN EXAMPLE THAT WAS GIVEN WAS OUR, UH, CRISIS NEGOTIATION TEAM VAN THAT GETS DEPLOYED IN A CRISIS NEGOTIATION. UH, IT'S JUST A, A VAN WITH SOME EQUIPMENT IN IT THAT'S FALLS UNDER ASSEMBLY BILL 4 81. SO WE HAVE TO LIST THAT AS MILITARY EQUIPMENT. OUR MOBILE COMMAND CENTER, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY A MOTOR HOME THAT GETS DEPLOYED WITH COMMUNICATION CAPABILITIES, UH, FOR OUR DISPATCH CENTER AND OUR OFFICERS THAT'S ALSO CONSIDERED, UH, MILITARY EQUIPMENT. SO JUST BY HAVING THE, THE DIALOGUE AND THE CONVERSATION, WE WERE ABLE TO ANSWER A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS. MM-HMM. . BUT THOSE ARE THE ONLY QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED. FANTASTIC. THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT INFORMATION. I, UH, I'M VERY HAPPY TO HEAR THAT THE COMMUNITY IS INVOLVED AND IS ASKING QUESTIONS. AND THE, UH, RESPONSES I THINK ARE, ARE, UH, SPOT ON. UM, I HAVE A QUESTION OF MY OWN. UH, AND THEN ALSO I, I DO WANNA ADDRESS THE PUBLIC COMMENT. UM, OUR PUBLIC COMMENTER MENTIONED THAT WE NEEDED TO HELP OUR PD UPDATE THEIR TECHNOLOGY IN TERMS OF DRONES. AND, AND I AM HAPPY TO SEE THAT THAT IS PART OF THIS ASK. SO, UH, I AM IN SUPPORT OF THAT, UH, REGARDING THE DRONE PROGRAM. UM, I DO HEAR IN THE NEWS OFTEN, I THINK OUR NEIGHBOR, ULA VISTA HAS HAD ISSUES WITH, UM, UH, UM, RESIDENTS MAYBE FEARING THAT THEY'RE BEING SURVEILLED. IS THERE SURVEILLANCE THAT WE ARE DOING WITH OUR DRONES, OUR UNMANNED OR UAVS UNMANNED? I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE, THAT MEANS, BUT THE DRONES ESSENTIALLY. UM, CAN YOU CONFIRM WITH US, UH, DO WE SURVEIL OUR CITIZENS? WE ARE NOT, WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO USE THEM IN THAT CAPACITY. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND I DO JUST WANNA MENTION, UM, CHIEF HERNANDEZ EARLIER SHARED WITH ME THAT IN ORDER TO SOME PARTS OF THE CITY, LARGE PARTS OF THE CITY, IN ORDER TO, UH, DEPLOY THOSE DRONES, WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO BE IN COMMUNICATION WITH AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL. UM, AND I FIND THAT INCREDIBLY INTERESTING. I THINK THAT'S ALSO LIMITING, YOU KNOW, HOW, UH, HOW THIS TECHNOLOGY IS USED. BUT I, I AM IN SUPPORT OF THE MOTION. AND MAYOR, IF YOU'RE READY FOR, UH, FOR, UH, FOR MOTION, I'M HAPPY TO MAKE IT. SEE, DO WE HAVE, UH, MEMBER BUSH? I'LL SECOND. OKAY. AND [01:25:01] I HAVE A QUESTION. OKAY. THANKS. UH, YES. AND, AND THANK YOU LIEUTENANT RAMIREZ, ALL YOUR WORK, UH, AND, AND STAFF'S WORK ON THIS. UM, HAS THIS, I, I KNOW THERE WAS A MEETING, HAS THIS GONE TO THE CPRC, THE COMMUNITY POLICE RELATIONS COMMITTEE? UH, THIS IS NOT, UH, AN ITEM THAT GETS SENT TO THE CPRC, HOWEVER, OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO ATTEND THE GENERAL COMMUNITY MEETING. IT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. SO, UM, IT'S POSTED AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY FREE TO ATTEND IF THEY WISH. GOT IT. OKAY. WELL, UM, I WOULD JUST, UH, MOVING FORWARD, SO I, I, UH, SUPPORT THE ITEM. UM, SO IN OUR POLICY, IT'S SEVEN, UH, 7 0 6 0.8 COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. AND IT READS WITHIN 30 DAYS OF SUBMITTING AND PUBLICLY RELEASING THE ANNUAL REPORT, THE DEMAR DEPARTMENT SHALL HOLD AT LEAST ONE WELL PUBLICIZED AND CONVENIENTLY LOCATED COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT MEETING AT WHICH THE DEPARTMENT SHOULD DISCUSS THE REPORT AND RESPOND TO PUBLIC QUESTIONS REGARDING THE FUNDING, ACQUISITION OR USE OF THE MILITARY EQUIPMENT. YOU ALL DID THAT. I APPRECIATE YOU FOLLOWING THAT. UM, I WOULD JUST, UH, ASK IF THE, UH, MAKER OF THE MOTION IS WILLING TO ADD AN AMENDMENT THAT WE ASK STAFF TO BRING BACK, UM, A CHANGE IN THIS POLICY THAT IT JUST GO TO THE CPRC RATHER THAN, YOU KNOW, CREATE A NEW, UH, HAVE TO DO A NEW MEETING. I THINK WE SHOULD JUST HAVE THE CPRC UH, REVIEW THIS. UM, SO THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S OUR, THAT'S OUR COMMITTEE, OUR, OUR CITIZENS COMMITTEE TO REVIEW THESE KIND OF ITEMS. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM REVIEW, REVIEW THIS. I, I THINK, I THINK WE CAN GIVE DIRECTION TO BRING THAT BACK, BUT THAT'S NOT, THAT'S THE INTENT. OKAY. YEAH. TO BRING IT BACK. SO TO APPROVE THIS ITEM AND HAVE STAFF COME BACK. VERY GOOD. VERY GOOD. OKAY. SO, SORRY. UM, COUNCIL MEMBER BUSH. SO YOU ARE ASKING TO AMEND THE MOTION TO INCLUDE FOR FUTURE REPORTS, UH, IN HAVING IT BE PRESENTED TO CPRC, BUT THINK IN ORDER THAT'S NOT GOING TO HINDER THIS CORRECT MOTION. OKAY. YES, I DO ACCEPT THE AMENDMENT. AND, AND WE WOULD'VE TO VOTE ON THAT AT A DIFFERENT MEETING BECAUSE IT'S A CHANGE OF OUR POLICY. AND WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA IS NOT TO CHANGE THE POLICY. SO THE POLICY, SO THE POLICY CHANGE WOULDN'T BE DONE HERE. IT WOULD JUST BE ASKING STAFF TO COME BACK. GOT IT. WITH THAT, AN INKLING, WHICH ON LANGUAGE ON 7 7 0 6 0.8, THAT IT JUST GO TO THE CPRC. THAT, THAT BE THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT MEETING. OKAY. YES. THAT, THAT CAN JUST BE DIRECTION TO STAFF THEN. YES. EVERYONE'S IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT. YES. ALRIGHT. UH, SO WE DO HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, COULD WE HAVE, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING ELSE HERE. SO COULD WE HAVE ROLL CALL PLEASE? COUNCIL MEMBER BUSH? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER RODRIGUEZ. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER MOLINA? YES. VICE MAYOR AMANI. AYE. MAYOR MORRISON. AYE. MOTION PASSES. OKAY, NEXT WE [10.5 Agreement Between the City of National City and Kreisberg Law Firm, LLP for Legal Services in the Specialized Area of Labor Law.] GO TO 10.5, THIS AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY AND, UH, UH, KREISBERG, UH, LAW FIRM, LLP FOR LEGAL SERVICES IN THE SPECIALIZED AREA OF LABOR LAW. AND I BELIEVE MEMBER BUSH, YOU'RE THE ONE THAT BROUGHT THIS UP. YES. I WOULD ASK THAT WE, UH, HOLD OFF ON AGREEING WITH THIS UNTIL WE GET TWO OTHER ADDITIONAL, UM, TWO ADDITIONAL PROPOSALS ON, ON THIS ITEM. I SECOND. OKAY. UM, I WOULD ONLY, MY ONLY CAUTION IN THE MIDST OF THAT IS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE COMING UP ON THOSE NEGOTIATIONS VERY QUICKLY, SO WE'LL HAVE TO MOVE WITH GREAT SPEED ON THIS. AND, UH, TO YOUR POINT, MAYOR, UH, CITY MANAGER. SO, UH, DO YOU THINK YOU WOULD BE ABLE, I DON'T. UM, SO NEGOTIATIONS I THINK ARE COMING TOWARDS THE END OF THE YEAR. UM, UH, BUT, UH, BUT TO THE MAYOR'S POINT, SO THIS DOESN'T HOLD UP, UH, START THIS SUMMER, I THINK OH, OH, THE SUMMER, OKAY. YEAH. SO THE SUMMER. SO, UM, IS THERE ENOUGH TIME FOR YOU TO GET TO ADDITIONAL, UM, TWO ADDITIONAL, UH, PROPOSALS ON, ON THIS? YES. UM, THANK YOU. YES. WE CAN GET TWO ADDITIONAL PROPOSALS AND I'D RECOMMEND, UH, INTERVIEWING THEM AS WELL AS THE, THE EXISTING PROPOSAL. AND, UM, AND THEN I WOULD PROBABLY, I THINK THE BEST WAY IN TALKING WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS THAT WE HAVE, IF WE COULD HAVE A COUNCIL COMMITTEE RIGHT. PERHAPS, UH, HELP US, UH, DO THOSE INTERVIEWS. OKAY. A COUPLE OF THINGS. FIRST OF ALL, I'M GOING, BEFORE WE GET TO THAT PART, COULD WE HAVE HR COME UP AND ADDRESS WHAT ANY KIND OF TIMELINE OR ANYTHING ELSE THERE IS ON THIS AND HOW, HOW, HOW TO BEST, YOU KNOW, MOVE FORWARD AS FAR AS MAKE SURE WE DON'T, UH, TRIP OVER OUR OWN FEET? IT FINE. UH, GOOD EVENING, UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS AND VICE MAYOR YAMANI. UM, ACTUALLY WE DO HAVE TO MOVE THIS TIMELINE UP. WE DID HAVE A REQUEST FROM THE MEA TO INCLUDE THE PART-TIME EMPLOYEES AS PART OF THEIR ASSOCIATION. THERE WAS A NEW LAW THAT WAS ENACTED AS OF JANUARY ONE THAT ALLOWS VARIOUS ASSOCIATIONS TO REACH OUT TO PART-TIME NON BENEFITED EMPLOYEES THAT ARE DOING LIKE, OR SIMILAR POSITIONS TO BE INCLUDED AS PART OF THEIR NEGOTIATION PROCESS AND BECOME MEMBERS. SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN FAIRLY SOON, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? WE, WE HAVE HAD A REQUEST [01:30:01] FROM THE, UH, MANAGE OR THE MUNICIPAL EMPLOYEES ASSOCIATION TO BECOME MEMBERS TO BRING IN THE PART-TIME EMPLOYEES. SO IT HAS BECOME A MATTER OF URGENCY THAT WE REPLY TO THE ASSOCIATION. OKAY. SO WHEN YOU SAY A MATTER OF URGENCY, I MEAN, ARE WE TALKING MATTER OF MONTHS, WEEKS, DAYS? WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, YES. OKAY. AND YOU'RE SAYING THAT THAT NEEDS, THAT NEEDS TO BE GOING THROUGH A NEGOTIATOR, CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY. JUST WANT TO GET, GET ON THE RECORD THERE FOR THAT. UM, SO THAT MIGHT CAUSE SOME DIFFICULTY AND, UH, LOOKING TOWARD THE CITY MANAGER AND, WELL, I THINK, UM, WHAT I'D RECOMMEND, MAYOR, IS THAT, UM, WE PROCEED WITH THIS CONTRACT TONIGHT THAT'S ON THE, THE AGENDA. WE'LL STILL INTERVIEW TWO OTHER FIRMS AND, AND THEN WE CAN, UM, UTILIZE THIS ATTORNEY FOR THAT PARTICULAR MATTER IF IT ARISES THAT QUICKLY. RIGHT. WE NEED TO ADDRESS IT, BUT WE'LL STILL CONTINUE ON FOR THE LARGER NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE THREE, UH, OKAY. YEAH. EMPLOYEE GROUPS AND WE'LL STILL LOOK AT OTHER FIRMS AND, AND, AND, OKAY. AND PROCEED. BUT I WOULD, I WOULD RECOMMEND, AGAIN, UH, A COUNCIL COMMITTEE TO OKAY. AD HOC COMMITTEE TO, TO DO THOSE, UH, INTERVIEWS WITH. OKAY. SO THE SUGGESTION IS TO GO AHEAD WITH THIS CONTRACT AND CARRY THROUGH AS FAR AS FOR THIS ONE ITEM, AND IT CAN BE CARRIED THROUGH ON THAT. IN THE MEANTIME, WE CAN, UH, TRY TO SOLICIT FOR TWO OTHER PROPOSALS AND THEN INTERVIEW ON THOSE AND COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL. AND, BUT STILL WE'D HAVE TO, THAT, THAT NEEDS TO BE PUT ON THE FAST TRACK ALSO, UH, BECAUSE THAT, UH, NEGOTIATIONS SURE. UH, WITH ALL THREE UNITS ARE COMING UP REAL QUICK. SO, UH, QUESTION. OH, YES. UH, THANK YOU. SO, UH, WE ARE CONSIDERING NOW THE CONTRACT THAT IS, UM, PART OF THE REPORT TODAY. NOW THE SCOPE HAS CHANGED. IT'S NO LONGER, AS I UNDERSTAND, FOR THIS SPECIFIC FIRM TO WORK WITH NEGOTIATIONS FOR THE THREE LABOR UNIONS. INSTEAD, IT'S JUST FOR, NOT LABOR UNIONS, BUT THE, THE, THE UNIONS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. BUT, UM, FOR THE MATTER THAT OUR HR DIRECTOR JUST MENTIONED, UH, WHICH IS AN OF AN IMMEDIATE NEED NEED, UM, I AM IN FAVOR OF THAT. HOWEVER, I WOULD LIKE TO PUT A, UM, NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT FOR THIS SPECIFIC NEGOTIATION BECAUSE THE CONTRACT AS IT STANDS NOW, DOES NOT HAVE A LIMIT. SO CITY MANAGER WOULD BE ABLE TO SUGGEST YEAH. THAT THAT COULD BE NOT TO EXCEED, UM, UH, $30,000 I THINK WOULD BE FINE. YEP. AND THAT'S NOT TO EXCEED, REMEMBER BUSH. YEAH, I, I, I APPRECIATE, UM, THE SITUATION THAT, UM, THAT THE STAFF IS IN WITH THE URGENCY. MY ISSUE WITH THIS, SO, UM, I MEAN IT'S, THE BILLING RATE IS 355, SO I THINK THAT'S KIND OF HIGH. I'D LIKE TO SEE OTHER BIDS AND, UM, I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IN THE PAST WHEN WE'VE GONE THROUGH NEGOTIATIONS, I'VE HAD SOME CONCERNS AND, AND QUESTIONS WITH THIS PARTICULAR FIRM. I'M OPEN TO STILL CONSIDERING THEM. I JUST DON'T WANT TO BE FORCED TO FAST TRACK THIS. UM, WHEN I'VE HAD THE CONCERNS, I'M NOT SURE THAT WE'VE, UH, HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH MEA IN PARTICULAR, HAD CONCERNS WITH THEM THE LAST TIME I SPOKE. SO I WOULD NOT BE COMFORTABLE MOVING FORWARD WITH, UH, THIS CONTRACT WITH, UM, AT, AT THIS POINT. I, I THINK WE COULD BRING IT BACK AT, AT THE NEXT MEETING, UM, IN TWO WEEKS AND THAT WE SHOULD GET BIDS. SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY POSITION ON IT. YEAH, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN TURN AROUND BIDS QUITE THAT QUICKLY, BUT, UH, , UM, BUT I SAY WE CAN, WE CAN GIVE IT A TRY. MR. RAY, WOULD YOU BE OPEN TO CREATING AN AD HOC COMMITTEE WHERE MAYBE COUNCIL MEMBER BUSH AND YOURSELF WOULD SERVE ON IT SO WE CAN DIRECTLY OVERSEE ANY POTENTIAL NEW, UH, CONTRACTS? WELL, YEAH, I, I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'LL HAVE TO DO WITH AN AD HOC, 'CAUSE I SAY IT'S GONNA BE VERY UNCOMFORTABLE TRYING TO GET THE WHOLE COUNCIL, UH, FOR AN INTERVIEW TYPE SITUATION. UH, UH, YEAH. AND I HAVE NO PROBLEM FOR THE CHAIR. YES, I THINK WE DO THIS FROM OTHER AGENTS AND, YOU KNOW, IT, UM, I DON'T, I THINK I'VE REQUESTED, UM, ASK OUR COUNCIL TO LOOK INTO THAT, TO, UH, DURING THE INTERVIEW THAT WE HAVE A, UM, UM, CLOSED SESSION WITH REGARDS TO INTERVIEWING THIS. UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, LAW FIRMS THAT WILL HELP US IN THE, UH, IN THE, UH, UH, WORKING WITH THE, UH, LABOR LAW. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, TO EXPEDITE MATTERS, UM, I THINK A, UH, A, UH, CLOSED SESSION WITH, UM, WITH, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER FIRM OR TWO OR THREE, UM, DEPENDING ON WHAT CITY MANAGER CAN, CAN PULL, UM, I THINK IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT WE, UM, THAT WE, UM, SIT IN THOSE AND MAKE SURE THAT WE, WE LISTEN TO HOW THEY'RE GONNA, UM, [01:35:01] YOU KNOW, I MEAN, HOW THEY'RE GONNA CREATE THIS, UH, THIS, UH, THIS RULES, UM, IN, IN WORKING WITH OUR WORKING, UH, FORCE, UM, OUR WORKFORCE. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IF WE NEED TO, UM, EXPEDITE THIS, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE CAN, WE CAN SURE. MAKE IT HAPPEN. RIGHT. MAYOR MEMBER. THANK YOU, MAYOR. ONE MORE QUESTION. I WONDER, UM, THE, I UNDERSTAND FROM OUR HR DIRECTOR THE URGENCY HERE, BUT, UM, WOULD THERE BE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM MEA THAT WOULD, UM, BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO THE URGENCY PERHAPS? IS IT NECESSARY? IS IT TRULY URGENT? OR CAN THIS BE A PART OF, UM, YOU KNOW, NEGOTIATIONS ONCE THE, THE FIRM IS SELECTED FROM A GREATER POOL? UM, BUT I DON'T SEE, UH, SOMEBODY STANDING UP. BUT THAT WOULD BE KEY. IT WOULD BE GOOD TO KNOW IF IT TRULY, THE URGENCY IS, UM, SINCE IT IS AN ASK FROM MEA, WOULD THEY BE WILLING TO PUT THIS ASIDE UNTIL WE HAVE A FULL, UH, ABILITY TO SELECT A FIRM? UM, SO THAT'S A THOUGHT. OKAY. WELL, I THINK, UM, COUNCIL MEMBERS, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I THINK, UH, WE, WE WILL TAKE A CHANCE. LET'S, I WOULD RECOMMEND WE, WE CONTINUE WITH LOOKING AT TWO ADDITIONAL FIRMS. UM, UH, WE CAN LOOK AT INTERVIEWING THEM IN CLOSED SESSION, BUT CAN WE PROPOSE AN AD HOC COMMITTEE JUST IN CASE? YEAH, I THINK'S SO. THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE. THEN WE'LL CONDUCT THE INTERVIEWS AND WE'LL RETURN AT THE NEXT, UH, COUNCIL MEETING WITH, UM, THE RESULTS. RIGHT? YEAH, I, I THINK IT'S GONNA WORK OUT BEST. 'CAUSE I SAY, YEAH, I, I KNOW WE'RE TRYING TO, TRYING TO SCHEDULE JUST FOR THE FOUR COUNCIL, UH, THE FIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS JUST FOR A BUDGET MEETING, AND IT'S, GETTING THOSE SCHEDULES TOGETHER IS ROUGH ENOUGH, UNLESS YOU'RE GONNA HAVE, YOU KNOW, THREE APPLICANTS PLUS TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS IS GONNA BE, IS ALWAYS A CHALLENGE BY ITSELF. SO, UH, UH, BUT I SAY IF WE CAN GET IT ALL TOGETHER IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, THEN THE WHOLE COUNCIL CAN DO IT. OTHERWISE WE'D USE THE AD HOC COMMITTEE. AND, AND THE OTHER OPTION TOO, I THINK TO, UH, THE VICE MAYOR'S POINT IS, UM, THAT IF, UM, IN, IN THE OTHER OPTION IN INCLUDING ALL OF COUNCIL, AND IF FOLKS CAN'T MAKE IT, IF THE MAJORITY, YOU KNOW, HAS A DATE, THEN FOLKS CAN'T MAKE IT. SO THAT'S THE OTHER ALTERNATIVE, JUST TO ADDRESS YOUR POINT. BUT I'M ALSO IN FAVOR OF THE AD HOC, SO I'M, I'M HOPING OKAY, IF WE CAN DO THE CLOSED SESSION, WE'LL HAVE IT, UH, BEFORE THE NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED CITY COUNCIL MEETING. RIGHT. AND I SAY IF IT DOESN'T WORK OUT, THEN WE'LL GO WITH THE AD HOC AND BRING, BRING THE RESULTS BACK. SO, WE'LL, WE'LL TRY TO BE, HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY THEN, UH, WITH THAT I CAN, UH, WE NEED TO, UH, SO THIS HERE, NOW THE QUESTION IS, DO WE WANT TO HAVE THEM WORK ON, UH, ON THIS ONE ISSUE OR ARE WE JUST GONNA HOLD, PUT IT ON HOLD? NO, WE'LL WAIT. OKAY. WE CAN PUT ON HOLD. HOPEFULLY WE CAN COME BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING AND BE ABLE TO DO ON THAT. I WILL APPOINT A AD HOC COMMITTEE OF, UH, MEMBER BUSH AND MYSELF IN CASE IF WE CAN'T GET THE WHOLE, WHOLE COUNCIL TOGETHER AND MAKE THAT HAPPEN. MAYOR, MAY I ADD TO THAT? CAN WE PLEASE CHECK IN WITH MEA, ARE THEY WILLING TO DISCUSS THIS ISSUE WITH HR, WHETHER THE URGENCY TRULY IS NECESSARY? RIGHT. YEAH, WE, WE, WE CAN GET THAT INFORMATION ALSO. ALRIGHT, SO WE WERE GONNA, WE WILL BE PUTTING THIS ON HOLD THEN AND, UH, CARRY THIS OVER FOR, UH, THE NEXT AGENDA. I A MOTION? YEP. YOU NEED A MOTION FOR THAT? YES. WE HAD A MOTION. ILL MAKE THAT MOTION. I THOUGHT WE HEARD. OH, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? WE, WE DID HAVE A MOTION. YEAH, WE NEED A MOTION. MM-HMM. . OH, I THOUGHT WE HEARD. I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION. OKAY. SO I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO, UH, PUT THIS ON HOLD TO HAVE STAFF COME BACK WITH, UH, TWO ADDITIONAL, UM, TO TWO ADDITIONAL, UH, PROPOSALS, UH, BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING AND TO TALK TO, UH, DISCUSS THIS WITH MEA ABOUT THE URGENCY OF THEIR PART-TIME ISSUE. RIGHT. AND, OKAY. AND THEN APPOINTMENT OF THE AD HOC COMMITTEE, IF WE CAN'T AN APPOINTMENT AT THE, IF WE CAN'T GET THE WHOLE COUNCIL TOGETHER AND APPOINTMENT OF THE AD HOC COMMITTEE. SO WE MAKE IT HAPPEN WITH MYSELF AND, AND THE MAYOR. OKAY. THAT'S SECOND MOTION. WE HAVE MOTION AND A SECOND. ALRIGHT. UH, ROLL CALL. COUNCIL MEMBER BUSH. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER RODRIGUEZ. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER MOLINA. YES. VICE MAYOR AMANI. AYE. MAYOR MORRISON. AYE. MOTION PASSES. UH, NEXT, [10.8 Approving Job Classifications and Proposed Salary Schedule] UH, WE GO TO 10.8. THIS IS APPROVING THE JOB CLASSIFICATION BEFORE AND PROPOSED SALARY SCHEDULE. AND I'M TO WHO PULLED THAT ONE? I DID. MS. MAYOR. OH, HOLD ON. I'M SORRY. YES, THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, JUST WANTING TO HIGHLIGHT, TO COMMEND THE PROMOTIONS OF TWO VERY LONG TIME EMPLOYEES OF OUR CITY MAYOR. UM, UM, I WAS THERE FOR, FOR, UM, QUICK MINUTE, UM, BECAUSE I HAD A MEETING, BUT I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT AND CONGRATULATE, UM, EMERGENCY MANAGER, UM, WALTER AMEDEE AND FIRE DIVISION CHIEF [01:40:01] ROBERT HERNANDEZ. UM, I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO, UM, COMMEND THE, UH, THE RECOMMENDATION OF FIRE CHIEF, UM, MORA TO OUR CITY MANAGER, UM, TO, UH, TO, UH, EXPEDITE, TO EXPEDITE THIS, UM, PROMOTIONS THAT, UH, HAS BEEN, UH, LONG TIME COMING. THANK YOU, MAYOR. IS THAT IN THE FORM OF A MOTION? MAYOR? IT'S NOT A MOTION. IT'S OH, OH. AND I SO MOVE TO APPROVE 0.8. SORRY, I SECOND THE MOTION. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALRIGHT. CAN WE HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE? COUNCIL MEMBER BUSH. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER RODRIGUEZ. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER MOLINA. YES. VICE MAYOR IMANI. AYE. MAYOR MORRISON. AYE. MOTION PASSES. ALRIGHT, OUR, UH, NEXT WE GO INTO OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS. AND [11.1 Introduction of an Ordinance Amending Section 9.07 (Food Caterers and Catering Equipment Rentals) of the National City Municipal Code.] FIRST PUBLIC HEARING IS 11.1. THIS IS INTRODUCTION OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 9.07 FOOD CATERS AND CATERING EQUIPMENT RENTALS OF THE NATIONAL CITY MUNICIPAL CODE. AND, UH, WITH THAT WE HAVE, UH, MARTIN READER FIRST AT, WHERE DID HE DISAPPEAR TO? OH, RIGHT THERE. RIGHT THERE. OKAY. HIDING IN PLAIN SIGHT ON ME. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, STAFF PUBLIC, UH, MARTIN READER, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT HERE TO TALK ABOUT, UH, OUTDOOR FOOD VENDING. SO WE'VE HAD SEVERAL QUESTIONS IN RECENT MONTHS RELATED TO, UH, OUTDOOR FOOD SALES AND HOW THOSE MAY BE PERMITTED AND HOW THAT, UH, JIVES WITH OUR CURRENT CODE. UH, I REALLY COULD HAVE MADE THIS TEXT A LITTLE BIGGER, BUT, UH, WE HAVE SEVERAL SECTIONS IN THE CODE RELATED TO, UH, FOOD IN PUBLIC REALM. FIRST 9 0 6, WHICH IS, UH, MOBILE FOOD VENDING VEHICLES. THAT IS YOUR FOOD TRUCKS, YOUR FOOD TRAILERS, ET CETERA. WE ALSO HAVE SECTION 13.3, WHICH, UH, DEALS WITH SIDEWALK VENDORS. THAT'S SOMETHING WE DID, UH, SEVERAL YEARS AGO. NOW. WE ALSO ALLOW FOR FOOD USES IN CONJUNCTION WITH TEMPORARY USES, UH, THROUGH THE TEMPORARY USE PERMITS UNDER, UH, SECTION 15. AND I'M GONNA HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS ONE OVER HERE. . UH, ALSO WE, UH, IN SECTION 9 0 7 ALSO TALKS ABOUT CATERING AND CATERING LICENSES WITH THE COUNTY. ALL OF THESE TYPES OF USES DO REQUIRE A PERMIT WITH THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO, SPECIFICALLY THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH AND QUALITY. AND, UH, AS, AS WE ALL KNOW, SINCE OR DURING AND AND SINCE COVID, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CHANGE IN HOW, UH, OPERATIONS ARE IN THE PUBLIC REALM WITH REGARD TO FOOD SALES. UH, SO WHAT WE'VE SEEN IS THERE'S BEEN SEVERAL SORT OF NICHE BUSINESSES, OR IN SOME CASES SMALLER ESTABLISHING BUSINESSES AND THEY'VE HAD DIFFICULTY FORMING, UH, OR OPERATING WITHIN THIS TRADITIONAL FRAMEWORK OF, OF FOOD TRUCKS AND OTHER, UH, FOOD VENDING VEHICLES OR CARTS, WHICH TEND TO BE RELATIVELY EXPENSIVE, ESPECIALLY WHEN HAVING TO GO THROUGH THE PERMITTING AND, AND PURCHASE OF NEW EQUIPMENT. UH, OTHER COMPOUNDING ISSUES MAY BE THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY, IF IT'S, UH, NOT ON A, IN, ON A PUBLIC STREET LIKE HIGHLAND AVENUE OR PLAZA BOULEVARD. FOR EX EXAMPLE, THEY MAY NOT HAVE AS, AS MANY CLIENTELE, UH, LACK OF ESTABLISHED CLIENTELE 'CAUSE THERE WOULD BE A NEWER BUSINESS. AND ALSO THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY MAY LIMIT WHERE AND HOW THEY CAN, UH, THEY CAN OPERATE. SO WITH THE, THE ADVENT OF PERMANENT NON KITCHEN BASED ALTERNATIVES, UH, SUCH AS PARKING LOT BASED VENDORS OR SIMILAR ITEMS SUCH AS CARTS AND SO FORTH, WE'VE HAD SOME, SOME CHALLENGES. SO SIDEWALK VENDORS IS ALREADY INCLUDED, AS I MENTIONED, IN A CODE SECTION ALREADY, SO WE DON'T NEED TO WORRY TOO MUCH ABOUT THAT. UH, AND THEN ALSO TITLE 18 HAS, UH, SEVERAL SECTIONS RELATED TO USES BEING COMPLETELY ENCLOSED IN A BUILDING. SO NO OUTDOOR USE IN OTHER WORDS. SO THAT WOULD BE, UH, SOMETHING THAT GENERALLY FLIES IN THE FACE OF A, A LOT OF THESE OUTDOOR USES THAT ARE NOT OTHERWISE, UH, PERMITTED CURRENTLY. SO IN ORDER TO ADDRESS, UH, THESE TYPES OF BUSINESSES THAT WOULD, THAT ARE NOT SPECIFICALLY TALKED ABOUT IN THE CODE ALREADY, STAFF IS SUGGESTING AN AMENDMENT TO TITLE IX, WHICH IS, UH, OR 9.07 RATHER, WHICH IS FOOD CATERERS AND CATERING EQUIPMENT RENTALS THAT WOULD ADDRESS THOSE, UH, FOOD VENDING, UH, PERMITS. SO THEY MENTIONED UNDER THE ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH AND QUALITY DEPARTMENT OF THE COUNTY, AND THE INTENT IS FOR SMALLER BUSINESSES THAT WANT TO OPERATE, UH, IN FRONT OF OTHER SERVICE BUSINESSES IN THE COUNTY, TYPICALLY LOOKS AT BREWERIES AND WINERIES, FOR EXAMPLE, AS A LOT OF THESE LOCATIONS, [01:45:01] UM, TO, UM, EXCUSE ME, TO ALLOW THOSE LIMITED FOOD SALES ON THE PROPERTY. THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO DOES HAVE SIMILAR ALLOWANCES TO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IN THE DRAFT ORDINANCE THIS EVENING. AND OTHER EXAMPLES MAY BE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE, THE CITY OF LOS ANGELES, WHICH HAS, UH, PRETTY MUCH REMOVED ANY, ANY BARRIERS THROUGH OUTSIDE FOOD VENDING THROUGHOUT THE, THE CITY, WHICH IS MOSTLY, UH, BASED ON, ON ENFORCEMENT OR LACK THEREOF. SO TYPICALLY THE COUNTY HAS THREE, THREE MAIN PERMITS THAT THEY ISSUE ON A REGULAR BASIS. MOBILE FOOD FACILITIES, WHICH ARE YOUR FOOD TRUCKS, FOR EXAMPLE, TEMPORARY FOOD FACILITIES, WHICH WE AGAIN, UH, ALREADY ALLOW UNDER TS THAT WOULD BE A TEMPORARY EVENT OR A TEMPORARY COMMUNITY EVENT. THEY DO ALLOW A PERMIT FOR THAT. AND THEY ALSO OFFER SATELLITE FOOD SERVICE OPERATIONS, WHICH IS WHERE YOU HAVE A BUSINESS SUCH AS A MARKET OR, UH, A RESTAURANT THAT HAS A KITCHEN AND, UH, CAN PRODUCE STAFF, UH, EXCUSE ME, PRODUCE FOOD, UH, ON SITE, CAN TAKE IT OUTSIDE AND, UH, SERVE IT OUTSIDE WITH A SATELLITE FOOD SERVICE OPERATIONS PERMIT. WE'VE HAD A FEW OF THESE OCCUR OVER THE YEARS. A COMMON EXAMPLE OF THIS MAY BE, UH, COSTCO, FOR EXAMPLE. YOU CAN GET YOUR PIZZA OR HOT DOGS OUTSIDE, NEED IT ON THE PATIO. UH, WE'VE ALSO HAD QUESTIONS FROM LOCAL BUSINESSES SUCH AS SEAFOOD CITY, WHICH WISH TO DO THE SAME THING AND HAVE CONTACTED STAFF. SO THAT WOULD TYPICALLY BE ALLOWED UNDER A SATELLITE FOOD SERVICE OPERATIONS PERMIT WITH THE COUNTY. HOWEVER, WE DO HAVE OUR TITLE 18, WHICH HAS NO USE OR NO USE, UH, OUTSIDE OF A COMPLETELY ENCLO BUILDING. GONNA STAY CLOSER. OKAY. PRIVATE EVENT CATERING, SORRY, I'M HAVING TROUBLE READING THIS TODAY. UH, THAT'S OBVIOUSLY RELATED TO A PERMITTED EVENT OR, UH, SOMEBODY HIRES A CATERER TO, TO SHOW UP AT THEIR HOUSE FOR A PARTY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THAT JUST REQUIRES A BUSINESS LICENSE TYPICALLY. AND IT'S NOT REALLY, UH, SOMETHING WE DEAL WITH TOO OFTEN. HOWEVER, IN, UH, DEALING WITH THE COUNTY, SPECIFICALLY COUNTY STAFF AT THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH AND QUALITY, UH, CITY STAFF HAS, HAS TALKED TO THEM RELATED TO OTHER OPPORTUNITIES. ONE BEING DIRECT SALES CATERING, WHICH IS A PERMIT THAT CAME ALONG IN 2016 WITH THE COUNTY. UH, AGAIN, MAINLY GEARED TOWARDS BREWERIES AND WINERIES. AND THAT'S CATERING WHERE FOOD IS SERVED TO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. UM, ON, ON PRIVATE PROPERTY OR, OR PUBLIC PROPERTY FOR THAT MATTER. AND THAT BASICALLY MEANS ANY CATERING OTHER THAN PRIVATE CATERING. SO IT'S PRETTY BROAD. IT'S GENERALLY NOT LIMITED IN THE LOCATION AND WHERE IT CAN BE, ALTHOUGH IT T TYPICALLY WILL BE IN A PARKING LOT OR, OR OPEN AREA IN FRONT OF A, A BUILDING. NOW THE IMPORTANT THING TO NOTE WITH DIRECT SALES CATERING IS THAT THAT WOULD ONLY BE PERMITTED AT A WHAT IS WHAT IS DEFINED BY THE COUNTY AS A, AS A CATERING HOST FACILITY. AND THAT MEANS THAT IT HAS TO HAVE A RESTROOM FOR CUSTOMERS. IT HAS TO HAVE APPROPRIATE POWER TO RUN ANY REFRIGERATION EQUIPMENT OR ANY OTHER EQUIPMENT USED FOR COOKING. HAS TO HAVE SINKS FOR CLEANING DISHES AND ALSO HAS TO HAVE HOT AND COLD POTABLE WATERS, UM, AMONG A FEW OTHER, A FEW OTHER RHINOS. BUT THOSE ARE THE PRIMARY ONES. SO IF THAT, IF A BUSINESS SUCH AS A BAR OR A WINERY OR A BREWERY HAS THOSE ON SITE, THEY WOULD COUNT AS A CATERING HOST FACILITY. THEREFORE, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO, OR THE, THE COUNTY WOULD BE ABLE TO ISSUE A DIRECT SALES CATERING PERMIT. SO THERE ARE, THESE ARE, THIS IS DIRECTLY OUT OF THE, THE FOOD REGULATIONS CODE ADOPTED BY THE COUNTY. SO IT REALLY TELLS YOU WHAT LIMITED FOOD PREPARATION MEANS, 'CAUSE THAT'S ALL THAT CAN HAPPEN ON SITE. SO IT'S REALLY JUST THE FINAL PREPARATION OF, OF THE FOOD HEATING, UH, FRYING, ET CETERA. UH, DISPENSING THE FOOD, HOLDING IT IN REFRIGERATED AREAS, UH, SOME CHOPPING OF COOKED FOOD, UH, JUICING AND SO FORTH. HOWEVER, WHAT IT DOES NOT INCLUDE IS ANYTHING RELATED TO POTENTIALLY HAZARDOUS FOOD, UH, THAWING OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT, THAT WOULD REALLY GET YOU IN, IN TROUBLE WITH, UH, FOODBORNE ILLNESS. SO THAT THE INTENT IS TO NOT ALLOW ANY OF THAT, INCLUDING MILK PRODUCTS. SO STAFF HAS PROVIDED A DRAFT ORDINANCE THAT IS INCLUDED WITH, WITH YOUR PACKET, UH, WHICH IS AN AMENDMENT TO MUNICIPAL CODE SECTION 9.07, AND IT DEFINES THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH AND QUALITY REQUIREMENTS REGARDING SATELLITE FOOD, UH, DIRECT SALES, CATERING, ET CETERA. THAT'S NOT ALREADY INCLUDED IN THE CODE. WE HAVE UPDATED SOME CODE SECTIONS THAT WERE REFERENCED, UH, COUNTY CODE SECTIONS, WHICH HAVE SINCE CHANGED AND NOMENCLATURE, WHICH HAS SINCE CHANGED. SO WE HAVE BROUGHT THAT UP TO, TO CURRENT STANDARDS. IT ALSO DEFINES WHAT THAT, OR EXCUSE ME, DEFERS TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH AND QUALITY PERMITTING PROCESS. WE WILL REQUIRE A BUSINESS LICENSE AS ANY OTHER, UH, COMPANY OR BUSINESS DOING A DOING BUSINESS IN THE CITY. AND ALSO WITH REGARD TO THE PARKING LOTS, WE WOULD REQUIRE THAT ANY REQUIRED PARKING BE MAINTAINED. PRIMARILY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ACCESSIBLE PARKING FOR HANDICAPPED PERSONS, INCLUDING [01:50:01] ACCESS TO THOSE PARKING SPACES. AS FAR AS FINDINGS REQUIRED FOR A CODE AMENDMENT, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE GENERAL PLAN CONFORMANCE AND CONFORMANCE WITH THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT. UH, THIS, THIS DOES DEAL WITH FOOD SALES, WHICH IS AN ALLOWABLE USE IN ALL OF OUR COMMERCIAL AND MIXED USE ZONES IN WHICH THESE WERE LIKELY, UH, BE OPERATING, INCLUDING INDUSTRIAL ZONES AS WELL FOR THAT MATTER. AND AS FAR AS SQL, THE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT, IT WILL BE EXEMPT FROM THAT AS IT WOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED A PROJECT. THERE IS NO INCREASE IN ANY DENSITY, THERE'S NO CONSTRUCTION. IT WOULD NOT GENERALLY INCREASE THE NEED FOR SERVICES TO THE PROPERTY OR HAVE A EFFECT ON THE ENVIRONMENT. SO TO SUM, SUMMARIZE, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT WE, UH, THAT WE HAVE THIS AMENDMENT TO THE MUNICIPAL CODE TO MAKE EVERYTHING CLEAR AND DEFER TO THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH AND QUALITY ON THEIR PROCESSING. IF THIS ORDINANCE IS APPROVED IN THIS CONDITION, UH, IT WOULD ALLOW OUTSIDE FOOD SALES ON A LIMITED BASIS SUBJECT TO COUNTY PERMITS AND WOULD BRING THE CITY INTO COMPLIANCE WITH OTHER SIMILAR JURISDICTIONS AS FAR AS THEIR RULES AND REGULATIONS. UH, OF COURSE, IF INTRODUCED, ONCE THAT HAPPENS, WE WOULD BRING THE ADOPTION BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING. AND, UH, ONCE 9 0 7 IS TAKEN CARE OF, WE WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND DO TITLE 18, WHICH WILL ADD THE CROSS REFERENCE TO WHAT WOULD BE, UH, AMENDED AS FAR AS CHAPTER 9.07. AND AS YOU KNOW, WITH TITLE 18, THAT ALSO REQUIRES A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION. SO THAT DOES, UH, CONCLUDE STAFF'S REPORT. SO OUR OPTIONS TONIGHT ARE TO INTRODUCE YOUR ORDINANCE AS, AS PROVIDED, UH, TO MODIFY OF COURSE, TO FILE THE REPORT, WHICH MEANS WOULD BE NOT, UH, GOING ANY FURTHER, UH, CONTINUING THE ITEM TO A SPECIFIC DATE AND PROVIDE DIRECTION AND, UH, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. SO THANK YOU. UH, BEFORE WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, ARE THERE ANY DIRECT QUESTIONS, NOT TALKING ABOUT COMMENTS, BUT QUESTIONS CONCERNING THE PRESENTATION? UM, MEMBER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MR. READER. I DO HAVE A QUESTION. YOU MENTIONED THE MIXED USE ZONE AND COMMERCIAL ZONE THAT, UH, THIS IS PERMITTING SALES ON PARKING LOTS. WOULD IT INCLUDE, UM, A PARKING, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY'S RESIDENTIAL HOME AND, AND THE PARKING LOT THERE? UH, IT'S NOT, UH, WE'RE NOT CONTEMPLATING THAT, THAT TYPE OF USE. UH, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE, UM, I DON'T BELIEVE THE COUNTY PERMITTING REALLY COVERS THAT. SO WE ARE ALLOWING THIS ON, UM, ZONED AREAS FOR COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY AND MIXED USE. THE CORRECT, THE CRITICAL PART IS THAT IT WOULD HAVE TO BE AT A HOST, UH, A HOST, A CATERING HOST FACILITY, WHICH HAS FAIRLY STRICT RECOMMENDATIONS AS FAR AS THE COUNTY, AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT INCLUDES RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. OKAY. THANK YOU. MM-HMM, , LET ME JUST ASK A QUESTION IF, SEE IF I'M HEARING YOU RIGHT. UM, ARE WE BASICALLY SAYING THAT WE'RE CHANGING OUR RULES TO MAKE IT THE MAXIMUM THAT THE COUNTY ALLOWS UNDER THEIR CURRENT REGULATIONS? UH, IT'S BRINGING THE CITY INTO COMPLIANCE WITH, WITH THE PERMITS THAT THE COUNTY ISSUES AND ALLOWING US TO ISSUE THE, OR TO ALLOW THOSE USES TO OCCUR WITHIN THE CITY. YES. OKAY. ALRIGHT. OKAY. OKAY. WE DO HAVE A NUMBER OF SPEAKERS. OH, JUST A CLARIFY THE QUESTION. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. UM, CAN YOU ELABORATE ON A, A CATERING HOST FACILITY SINCE IT WOULD BE A REQUIREMENT FOR DIRECT SALES CATERING? RIGHT. A VENDOR? UH, YES. THROUGH THE CHAIR, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, THE, THE INTENT IS TO HAVE ALL OF THE, UM, THE OPERATIONAL REQUIREMENTS AND MATERIALS AND SO FORTH THAT WOULD OTHERWISE BE CONTAINED WITHIN A RESTAURANT THAT, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE, OF THE FOOD COOKING FACILITIES, UH, PRIMARILY ACCESS TO A BATHROOM, OBVIOUSLY THAT NEED TO BE, UH, CLEANLINESS STANDARDS. IF THERE IS FOOD THAT NEEDS TO BE REFRIGERATED OR HANDLED SPECIALLY, THERE HAS TO BE THE ACCO THE ACCOMMODATION TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. SO A LARGER REFRIGERATOR, FOR EXAMPLE. UH, IN ADDITION THERE NEEDS TO BE A ACCESS TO BATHROOMS AND HOT AND COLD RUNNING WATER SO PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO WASH THEIR HANDS, CLEAN, CLEAN UP BEFORE AND AFTER EATING FOOD. THOSE ARE THE, THE PRIMARY, UH, THE PRIMARY PARTS. OH, THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. AND, UM, SEEN AS THIS IS THE ISSUE WE'RE DISCUSSING AT THE TIME. DO YOU MIND JUST, UM, BRIEFLY STATING HOW THIS POLICY CAME ABOUT? UH, I WASN'T IN ATTENDANCE OF THE MEETING, ALTHOUGH I DID FOLLOW AFTERWARDS. IT WAS AT THE REQUEST OF THE COUNCIL TO LOOK INTO THAT BASED ON, UH, AN INQUIRY FROM THE PUBLIC, A LOCAL BUSINESS, WHICH WAS A BAR ON HIGHLAND AVENUE. I COULD NAME IT IF YOU LIKE. SURE. UH, MACHETE, WHICH IS A SMALLER BUSINESS WHICH DOES NOT HAVE A KITCHEN, HAS VERY LIMITED ABILITY TO, UH, EXPAND AND DOES HAVE A SMALL PARKING LOT THAT [01:55:01] IS NOT PARTICULARLY USABLE, UH, FOR MULTIPLE REASONS. BUT THERE ARE OTHER BUSINESSES THAT HAVE ALSO INQUIRED SIMILARLY AND UNDER THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE. WOULD A BUSINESS LIKE, UH, MATA, SINCE WE'RE DISCUSSING AS LONG AS THEY HAVE THEIR CATERING HOST FACILITY LICENSE, WOULD THEY BE ALLOWED TO HAVE, UH, DIRECT SALES CATERING WITH A VENDOR OUTSIDE? UH, IT'S NOT SO MUCH A CATERING HOST LICENSE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY WITH, WITH THE REGULATIONS OR THE, UM, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY THE REGULATIONS WITH THE COUNTY FOR WHAT, WHAT CONSTITUTES A, A HOST FACILITY. GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. ALRIGHT. WE DO HAVE A NUMBER OF SPEAKERS. FIRST GONNA CALL ON ERICA , BE FOLLOWED BY CHRISTIAN AND GABRIELA. UH, ANA. OKAY. I EXPRESS MYSELF BETTER THAN SPANISH. THAT, THAT'S OKAY. WE HAVE, WE HAVE THE TRANSLATOR. OKAY. UH, WHEN I STARTED , UM, UM, UM, OKAY. WE COULD HAVE THE TRANSLATION ON THAT. OKAY. YOU HAVE MORE? OKAY. OKAY. PANCAKES. CARLOS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD AFTERNOON. IT IS A PLEASURE TO BE HERE. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I AM ADDRESSING A CITY COUNCIL, SO FORMALLY, SO I'M A BIT NERVOUS. MY NAME IS ERICA VO AND I AM HERE TO SUPPORT THIS PROPOSAL FOR, UM, ALLOWING, UH, CATERING AND, AND STREET VENTING SINCE I AM PART OF THAT COMMUNITY AS FAR AS THIS PROPOSAL. UH, AND WORKING ON PRIVATE PROPERTY AND PERHAPS, UH, BEING ABLE TO RENT A COMMERCIAL KITCHEN TO DO ALL OF THE FOOD PREP IN ORDER TO STILL ADHERE TO ALL OF THE, UH, COUNTY HEALTH REGULATIONS. I THINK IT'S A WONDERFUL IDEA. UM, AND BY HAVING THIS ORDINANCE WE'LL BE ABLE TO SUPPORT SMALL BUSINESSES SO THAT THEY CAN COME INTO COMPLIANCE WITH NATIONAL CITY RULES AS WELL AS, LIKE I SAID, COUNTY HEALTH RULES, WHICH IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT. IN ADDITION, THIS WILL BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE NOT ALL OF US HAVE ACCESS TO LARGER BUDGETS SO THAT WE CAN START OUT, UH, FOOD SERVICE BUSINESS WITH UH, FOOD TRUCK OR EVEN A TRAILER. THERE ARE MANY OF OUR FAMILIES WHO ARE CURRENTLY LIVING PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK. AND THIS PROPOSAL WOULD ENABLE SOME OF US START ACHIEVING THAT DREAM OF HAVING OUR OWN BUSINESS. AND FINALLY, I WANT YOU TO REMEMBER THAT BEHIND EVERY PERSON YOU COME ACROSS SELLING SOMETHING IN THE STREET, THERE'S A FAMILY FULFILLING A NEED AND TRYING TO MAKE A DREAM A REALITY. AND AS IF I MAY ONE COMMERCIAL BEFORE I GO, ONCE I DO START MY BUSINESS, YOU CAN TRY MY MINI PANCAKES. I PROMISE I'LL BE THE BEST IN NATIONAL CITY. . YOU GOT IT. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, UH, NEXT WE HAD, UH, CHRISTIAN AND GABRIELA GABRIELA, UH, [02:00:01] ANA. HELLO. GOOD AFTERNOON. WE'RE BACK. UM, WE JUST WANNA SPEAK ON BEHALF OF ALL THE SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS THAT, UM, THIS IS, IT'S THAT THIS IS SUCH A HUGE OPPORTUNITY TO FIT WE TO PASS. UM, WE'RE NOT ONLY HERE FOR OURSELVES, I'M BE REALLY HONEST. AFTER WE GOT THE BOOT OF NATIONAL CITY A FEW WEEKS LATER, I SAW A BUNCH OF VENDORS COMING OUT ON THE STREET. AND HONESTLY THAT TRULY MADE ME HAPPY BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ONLY LIKE, UM, SORRY I'M A LITTLE NERVOUS. UM, WE'RE JUST FAMILIES TRYING TO MAKE A LIVING FOR OUR KIDS. UM, WE HAVE BEEN VERY COMPLIANT. UM, WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS DAY. I WISH MORE SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS CAME IN A WAY. I FEEL LIKE SOME OF US ARE SCARED TO SPEAK UP BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT IF YOU GUYS ARE GONNA HAVE OUR BACKS OR NOT. I FEEL LIKE PART OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING, LIKE AS YOU GUYS, I WOULD BE PROUD OF OUR LOCAL STREET VENDORS. I MEAN, WE HAVE PEOPLE FROM LA RIVERSIDE JUST COMING TO NATIONAL CITY TOO, HAVE THESE LIKE LOCAL STREET VENDORS. I MEAN, WE'VE BUILT A COMMUNITY, WE'VE MADE FRIENDS AND LIKE CUSTOMERS BECAME OUR FRIENDS, FAMILY, FRIENDS, AND THEY FOLLOW US ALL OVER. I MEAN, UNFORTUNATELY FOR US, WE HAD A LATE NATIONAL CITY, BUT I AM A PROUD, BORN AND RAISED FROM NATIONAL CITY CITIZEN AND I WISH NOTHING BUT THE BEST FOR ALL THESE LOCAL STREET VENDORS AND I REALLY WISH YOU GUYS HELPED THEM GET THE RIGHT RESOURCES TO KEEP STREET VENDING. LIKE I SAID, MANY OF US LIVE DAY BY DAY. I MEAN THIS IS OUR INCOME. WE HAVE HOMES, WE HAVE FAMILIES TO TAKE CARE OF. UM, NONE OF US, I MEAN, MINIMUM WAGE, LET'S BE HONEST, IT SUCKS. WE CAN'T PAY OUR RENT WITH MINIMUM WAGE APART FROM MINIMUM WAGE. OUR TAXES ARE LIKE, IT'S, IT'S BE REAL MINIMUM WAGE SUCKS AND WE CAN'T AFFORD SAN DIEGO. LIKE WE CAN'T AFFORD SAN DIEGO. YOU REALLY CAN'T. AND HONESTLY, EVERYTHING'S BEEN, LIKE I SAID, IT'S BEEN KIND OF HARD ON ALL OF US, UH, FAMILY-WISE. LIKE EVERYTHING WAS GOING PRETTY GOOD WITH US, UM, TRYING TO BE COMPLIANT AND HONESTLY MY GOAL WAS TO OPEN UP A BRICK AND MORTAR A LOCATION AND PRETTY MUCH MY GOAL WAS TO SPEND MORE TIME WITH MY KIDS. SO THIS KIND OF WAS A SETBACK, BUT I'M ACTUALLY HAPPY THAT THIS ACTUALLY GOT BROUGHT UP BACK AGAIN TO THE COUNCIL FOR VOTE. UM, WE'RE PROUD ABOUT THAT AND HOPEFULLY IT DOES GO THROUGH 'CAUSE I REALLY WANT TO SEE OTHER STREET VENDORS PROVIDE FOR THEIR FAMILIES SAME AS WE DO. AND THEN WE'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH THEIR WHATEVER COMPLIANCES, PERMITS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. AND IF OTHER FOOD VENDORS ARE NOT SURE WHAT TO DO OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, I WANT THE CITY TO WORK WITH US, KIND OF GUIDE US TO WHAT WE NEED TO DO FOR PERMITS, HEALTH PERMIT AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. OBVIOUSLY THE COMMUNITY'S HEALTH IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING. SO BY, UH, ABIDING BY HEALTH PERMITS, THEN SAFE FOR THE COMMUNITY WILL BE. I WANNA THANK YOU GUYS FOR THE TIME AND HOPEFULLY YOU GUYS MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION AND SUPPORT SMALL BUSINESSES LIKE US. THANK YOU, MA, MAY I HAVE A QUESTION? SURE. MAY I ASK A QUESTION OF, OF, UH, UH, CHRISTIAN AND UM, UH, JUST YOUR BUSINESS? SO, UH, YOU SAY THAT YOU WERE COMPLIANT, YOU GUYS WERE COMPLIANT WITH ALL HEALTH CODE LAWS, AND I REMEMBER CHRISTIAN ASKING YOU THAT. SO ARE YOU, I'LL ASK AGAIN. ARE YOU UP TO DATE WITH THE COUNTY HEALTH CODE AND THE PERMITS? YEAH. UM, AND THE REASON JUST BEFORE, THE REASON I ASK IS BECAUSE WHEN I TALKED TO CITY STAFF, THEY SAID YOU WEREN'T COMPLIANT ON THE COUNTY HEALTH CODE. SO ARE YOU COMPLIANT NOW? OR WHAT, WHAT WAS, WHAT IS THAT ABOUT? I BELIEVE IT WAS A SINK PROBLEM. I'M SORRY, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE THE SINK, HOW HE SAID AHA. UM, YEAH. WELL, WHEN, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED, LIKE I JUST LOOKED UP LIKE THE SALVAGE PERMIT AND STUFF LIKE THAT. I WASN'T REALLY TOO SURE ABOUT LIKE ALL THE PERMITS AND STUFF. UH, BUT NOW, LIKE WE GOT THE KITCHEN RENT, WE WERE, UH, RENT THE KITCHEN, UH, WE GOT THEIR COMMISSARY LETTER, WE FINALLY GOT OUR FOOD CART. WE WEREN'T ABLE TO AFFORD A FOOD TRUCK FOR, TO BE ABLE TO TACOS. BUT, UM, WE'RE WORKING WITH THAT TO, TO BE OKAY. UH, UH, THANK YOU. SO, AND CITY STAFF, DID YOU HAVE, DO YOU KNOW OF WHAT PARTICULAR HEALTH, UM, UM, COUNTY HEALTH PERMIT THAT THEY WERE MISSING? BECAUSE WHEN I ASKED, UH, STAFF THAT A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, THAT WAS ONE OF THE ISSUES. [02:05:02] YEAH. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER. I DON'T REMEMBER THE, THE ANSWER TO THAT. DO, DO YOU, COULD YOU HELP OUT, UH, MR. READER? UH, WITHOUT DUE RESPECT THAT I DON'T THINK I WAS INVOLVED IN THAT DISCUSSION, SO I'M AFRAID I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER. MAYBE IT WAS CODE ENFORCEMENT. YEAH. ENFORCEMENT, . YEAH. WE JUST, HONESTLY, THE, THEY SAID THE CITY MANAGER WAS GONNA CONTACT US OR WE NEVER HEARD ANYTHING, ANYTHING LIKE THAT. LIKE WHEN CODE ENFORCEMENT WENT TO GO TALK TO, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS MAO THE LANDLORD OR THEY GAVE THE LETTER, LIKE WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WE WERE DOING WRONG, TO BE HONEST. WERE ASKING, WE STILL NEVER GOT THAT LETTER. WE WERE ASKING. WE WERE ASKING TO SEE LIKE, WHAT CAN WE DO TO FIX IT? AND UNTIL, LIKE, AFTER WE KIND OF GOT THE BOOT, THEN WE KIND OF FOUND OUT LIKE EXACTLY LIKE, LIKE . SO THAT'S WHERE LIKE WE GOT THE KITCHEN RENTAL, UH, WE FINALLY GOT LIKE THE FOOD CART. AND IN ORDER TO GET THE COMMISSARY LETTER TO APPLY FOR THE, OBVIOUSLY THOSE PERMITS ARE NOT CHEAP. THAT'S WHY LIKE, IF YOU GUYS CAN LIKE THE CITY HELP OUT GUIDE, BUT THEN MAYBE WE CAN USE SOME OF THE RESOURCE HELP OUT OTHER STREET VENDORS TO GET SOME OF THE STUFF. 'CAUSE IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT CHEAP. SO, YEAH. SO I DON'T REMEMBER THAT, BUT YEAH, YOU, BUT NEITHER IS IT FOR THE BRICK AND MORTAR BUSINESS THAT SOMETIMES YOU'RE RIGHT NEXT TO THAT'S GOING THROUGH ALL THAT HAS TO BE PAYING EVEN MORE STUFF, YOU KNOW? AND A LOT OF TIMES IT'S, IT'S A FAMILY TYPE SITUATION. AND THE OTHER THING IS NOT EVERY LOCATION APPLY. WOULD THIS APPLY TO, JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE A BUSINESS AND THEY'VE GOT A, A PARKING LOT DOES NOT MEAN THAT YOU COULD GO IN THERE. IT HAS TO MEET A LOT OF CRITERIA. AND SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY THEY NEED TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS FIRST BEFORE THEY GO OUT AND TRY TO OPEN, OPEN THE BUSINESS. AND, AND I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE NEED TO PRESS ALSO. OKAY. YEAH. YEAH. THAT GOOD? OKAY. RIGHT. OKAY. NEXT WE HAVE, UH, UH, EDDIE PEREZ BE FOLLOWED BY EDWARD NETO. HELLO, MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL AND STAFF RESIDENTS, UH, EDDIE PEREZ. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS EXCITING. THIS IS INNOVATIVE CREATIVE. THESE ARE ENTREPRENEURS. I TAUGHT ENTREPRENEURSHIP FOR TWO YEARS AND I TAUGHT TO HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS, UH, HIGH SCHOOL SENIORS. AND, UH, IT WAS A DEMONSTRATION PROJECT FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR, OFFICE OF YOUTH PROGRAMS. AND I'M PROUD TO SAY THAT MY GROUP RANKED NUMBER ONE IN THE NATION OF 26 DEMONSTRATION PROJECTS. MM-HMM. . SO THIS IS VERY EXCITING FOR ME. UH, I THINK IT CAN BE DONE. I THINK THINGS NEED TO BE WORKED OUT. I THINK THIS IS GONNA BRING REVENUE TO THE CITY. WE GOT SOUTHWESTERN COLLEGES TOLD US ABOUT THEIR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM. THEY CAN GET GUIDANCE IN SO MANY WAYS. NATIONAL CITY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. THIS IS A WIN-WIN. MM-HMM. . AND I WANT TO COMMEND THE FAMILIES THAT PUT THEIR HEART AND SOUL INTO WANTING THEIR OWN LITTLE BUSINESS. MM-HMM. , BECAUSE I THINK THAT WE'RE ABOUT, AND SO, UM, UH, THERE'S A SAYING THAT WHERE I WORK WITH NATIVE AMERICA PROGRAM, IT'S CALLED DREAM THE IMPOSSIBLE. SO I THINK THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A DREAM THAT CAN COME TRUE. SO, UM, I JUST WOULD, UH, URGE THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE STAFF TO WORK WITH THESE ENTREPRENEURS AND TRY TO GET THIS DONE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. UH, ED RANO, I'M HERE TO TALK. UM, I THINK THE ORDINANCE IS, UH, IS A GOOD ORDINANCE. I MEAN, IT BRINGS THE, IT BRINGS SAFETY IN PEOPLE'S MIND IN ENJOYING THE GOOD FOOD THAT'S FORTHCOMING. BUT I THINK, UM, SOMEHOW IN OUR COMPLIMENTARY, UH, COMPLIMENTARY EFFORT HERE, WE'RE LOSING TRACK THAT THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THE ORDINANCE AND BRINGING IT UP IS FOR PEOPLE'S SAFETY. MM-HMM. AND THEIR STORIES BEHIND 'EM. THERE'S FAMILIES INVOLVED, BUT ULTIMATELY IT'S FOR PEOPLE'S, THE PUBLIC SAFETY. WHAT I DON'T LIKE IS THE PART OF HOW THIS STORY CAME. WHY DID WE SPEND $7,000 OUT OF THE $47,000 CONSULT AGREEMENT TO DO THINGS THAT THE CITY SHOULD HAVE ALREADY DONE? AND IN TERMS OF COMMUNICATING AND MITIGATING AND LOOKING AT WHAT WENT WRONG AND WHAT SHOULD, WHAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE THE CITY INVOLVED, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE MADE OF THE, I'M TALKING THE $47,000, UH, RODRIGUEZ'S CONSULTING GROUP. WHY ARE THEY TAKING CREDIT FOR THE THINGS THAT THE CITY SHOULD HAVE ALREADY DONE IN PROVIDING SAFETY? UM, I DON'T, I DON'T, IT, IT WAS A POLITICAL PLOY, I THINK, AGAIN, TO GET PEOPLE RILED UP FOR THE, FOR THE, UM, THE STREET VENDORS WHO RIGHTFULLY WANT TO MAKE A BUSINESS. BUT THEY HAVE TO UNDERSTAND TOO, THAT LIKE EVERY OTHER BUSINESS HAS TO BE DONE IN PUBLIC SAFETY MIND FRAME. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. [02:10:01] OKAY. THAT IS ALL OF THE SPEAKERS THAT I HAVE LISTED. DO WE HAVE, HAVE ANYONE ON ZOOM? NO, WE DON'T. DO NOT OKAY. WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. UH, CAN WE HAVE ROLL CALL, PLEASE? COUNCIL MEMBER BUSH? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER RODRIGUEZ. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER MOLINA. YES. VICE MAYOR IMANI. AYE. MAYOR MORRISON. AYE. ALRIGHT. UH, NOW WE CAN, CAN GET INTO DISCUSSION. AND, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK WHAT WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL IS THE MESSAGING ON THIS. WHAT, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT DOING HERE IS GETTING ALL OF OUR RULES IN COMPLIANCE WITH COUNTY HEALTH. AND SO THAT EVERYONE WOULD BE FOLLOWING THE SAME SET OF RULES. AND IT'S BASICALLY BECAUSE WE REALLY CAN'T GO BEYOND THAT POINT, UH, BECAUSE I SAY THEY'RE, THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE IN CHARGE OF THIS. SO, BUT IT GETS OUR RULES IN LINE, IN LINE WITH THEIRS. UM, BUT IS IS NOT TO BE PERCEIVED AS OPENING THE FLOOD GATES FOR PEOPLE TO JUST, TO START GOING ON AND SEEING, LIKE WHAT WE SAW IN DOWNTOWN SAN DIEGO, WHICH JUST GOT TOTALLY OUT OF BAND. UH, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS NOT, UM, AND THEY WERE JUST OVERLOOKING FOR A LONG TIME. AND SOMETIMES CITIES DO THAT. UH, BUT AS I SAY, IT LED INTO PRETTY DISASTROUS RESULTS DOWN THERE. AND THEN HAD TO DO THE HEAVY CRACKDOWN HERE. AND, AND I KNOW OUR NEXT ITEM IS ABOUT FOG , UH, THAT WE'RE GONNA BE DEALING WITH, AND NOT, NOT THE WEATHER FOG, BUT IN, UH, IN, IN DEALING WITH A LOT OF DISCHARGES. AND SO THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT HAS TO BE DONE. I MEAN, YOU HAVE TO HAVE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE, IF YOU'RE GONNA BE OUT ON THE STREET AND SHALL WE SAY ONE IS FOR, WE'LL SAY IF YOU'RE DOING TACOS, UH, THERE'S A LOT OF GREASE INVOLVED AND YOU'VE GOTTA BE ABLE TO PROPERLY DISPOSE OF IT. PUTTING IT IN A TRASH CAN OR PUTTING IT DOWN A DRAIN IS NOT THE PROPER DISPOSAL. SO THAT, THAT ALL HAS TO BE INCLUDED AS, AS PART OF THE COUNTY, COUNTY REGS. ALSO, I'M JUST USING THAT AS AN EXAMPLE. IT BE THE SAME THING. IF IT WAS, UH, IF YOU WERE DOING HAMBURGERS, WHATEVER, UH, THE, UH, SO THERE'S ALL OF THESE THINGS, IT'S STILL GONNA BE WITHIN SETS OF RULES AND EVERYTHING ELSE, BUT THESE ARE THE RULES THAT THE COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT HAS ESTABLISHED ON HOW TO DO THESE THINGS. AND AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, NOT JUST BECAUSE THERE'S A PARKING LOT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THAT MAKES IT AUTOMATICALLY AVAILABLE. THERE STILL HAS TO BE ALL THE ACCOMMODATIONS THAT GO WITH THAT TO BE ABLE TO BE QUALIFIED. AND SO I, I THINK THAT ONE OF THE THINGS IS THE MESSAGE WE NEED TO URGE PEOPLE, HEY, IF YOU WANT TO DO THIS, YOU WANT TO GET INVOLVED WITH IT, IS GO THROUGH THE PROCESS. DON'T GO OUT THERE FIRST. BECAUSE THE LAST THING WE DO HATE TO DO IS WHETHER, IF IT'S IN SOMETHING LIKE THIS, OR IF IT'S A BRICK AND MORTAR, SOMEONE GOES IN AND, AND GOES AND RINSE A, UH, A FACILITY AND STARTS FIXING IT UP AND OPENS UP AND THEY WAIT A MINUTE, YOU DIDN'T GET THE RIGHT PERMITTING, OR YOU'RE IN THE WRONG ZONE OR SOMETHING, AND WE END UP HAVING TO SHUT 'EM DOWN, THAT'S THE LAST THING WE WANT TO DO. AND, UH, SO, YOU KNOW, SO WHETHER, IF IT'S BRICK AND MORTAR OR WHETHER IT'S THIS THAT'S, YOU KNOW, TWO DIFFERENT, UH, WELL, IT'S TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. IT IS STILL THE SAME. YOU STILL GOTTA GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND THAT'S, AND, AND MAKE SURE YOU'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH EVERYTHING. AND I THINK THE OTHER THING IS SENSITIVITY TO EXISTING BUSINESSES. UM, YOU KNOW, I I, YOU KNOW, IT'S, THE RESTAURANT BUSINESS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST VOLATILE BUSINESSES THAT YOU CAN GO INTO. AND IT'S EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE AND EVERYTHING ELSE AS FAR AS YOUR TIME AND EVERYTHING, AND YOU HAVE TO STAY OPEN. YOU, IT'S HARD TO STAY OPEN ONLY DURING THE PEAK HOURS. YOU KNOW, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'VE GOT THAT 11 TO ONE, OKAY, THAT'S A HOT HOURS. ABOUT ONE 30 TO FOUR 30 IS A DEAD ZONE, BUT YOU'VE STILL GOT EMPLOYEES, YOU'RE STILL OPEN AND YOU'RE STILL PAYING EVEN THOUGH THERE'S HARDLY ANY CUSTOMERS AND YOU'RE WAITING FOR THE DINNER TIME. UM, YOU KNOW, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S FOR THE BRICK AND MORTAR. AND SO WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL. AND THAT'S WHAT WAS THE SCREAMING AND YELLING DOWNTOWN SAN DIEGO, IS THAT YOU HAD BRICK AND MORTAR BUSINESSES, FAMILY BUSINESSES, AND THEN PEOPLE SETTING UP RIGHT OUTSIDE THEIR DOOR, AND WHICH WAS TOTALLY UNFAIR COMPETITION. AND, UH, UH, AND CHERRY PICKING THE HOURS AND SUCH ALONG THAT LINE. SO, YOU KNOW, ALL, ALL THESE THINGS HAVE TO BE TAKEN CONSIDERATION AS A COMMUNITY. WE CAN GET PAST ALL THAT AND MAKE FOR SOME GOOD THINGS. AND, UH, AND NO ONE LIKES GOOD FOOD THAN MORE THAN ME. AND SO, UH, YOU KNOW, AND, UH, WHAT I, WHAT I'VE ALWAYS SAID IS ONE OF THE THINGS I LOVE ABOUT NATIONAL CITY IS THAT YOU GO INTO SOME OTHER CITIES AND IT'S SO HOMOGENEOUS THAT IT'S JUST, IT'S ONLY ONE TYPE OF FOOD. ONE, IT'S, IT'S BORING HERE. YOU TRAVEL DOWN A BLOCK AND YOU CAN TRAVEL THE WHOLE WORLD. YOU KNOW, YOU GOT ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT FOOD AND EVERYTHING ELSE. AND I THINK OPPORTUNITIES LIKE THIS DOES MAKE IT EXCITING. THE OTHER THING IS IT ALSO ALLOWS TO HAVE EVENTS IF WE'RE GONNA, IF WE WANT TO [02:15:01] HAVE, UH, THE IDEA OF FOOD VENDOR EVENTS AND, UH, CAN BE SET UP. NOW, ONCE AGAIN, THEY HAVE TO BE PERMITTED. YOU GOTTA HAVE, YOU GOTTA HAVE YOUR STUFF ALL TOGETHER TO BE ABLE TO DO IT. BUT YOU CAN HAVE EVENTS, WHETHER IF IT'S ONCE A MONTH OR ONCE A QUARTER, OR IF IT'S EVEN A BIG YEARLY FESTIVAL OR SOMETHING THAT CAN HAPPEN. AND WE CAN ALL CELEBRATE THE DIFFERENT FOODS AND EVERYTHING. SO THIS ALLOWS IT, BUT IT ALLOWS IT ALL WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THE COUNTY REGULATIONS. AND SO THERE'S STILL PARAMETERS, BUT, BUT TOGETHER WE CAN, WE CAN GET PAST THAT AND, YOU KNOW, MAKE, TURN THIS INTO SOMETHING I FEEL IS POSITIVE. UH, OTHERS. OKAY. RODRIGUEZ, THANK YOU, MS. MAYOR. UM, I REALLY WANT TO COMMEND EVERYBODY FOR COMING TODAY, . SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING OUT. THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE FOR A SEGMENT OF OUR POPULATION. AND, YOU KNOW, THE REASON I KNOW THAT YOU DRIVE DOWN HIGHLAND AND WHERE THERE'S A FOOD TRUCK, THERE'S PEOPLE, AND IT COULD BE A THURSDAY, A FRIDAY, A SATURDAY, A SUNDAY, WHICH MEANS THAT THERE'S DEFINITELY A NEED WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY TO PROVIDE FANTASTIC FOOD. MM-HMM. . AND SO I THINK THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE FOR OUR COMMUNITY, UH, THANK YOU TO STAFF FOR WORKING ON THIS ISSUE AND BEING SO DILIGENT AND GETTING IT TO THIS POINT. UM, I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO, CAN WE BRING UP THE SLIDE BY THE WAY THAT DEMONSTRATED THE MOBILE FOOD FACILITY EXAMPLE ALL THE WAY TO THE DIRECT SALES CATERING? THERE WE GO. SO THE DIRECT SALES CATERING, UM, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IS CREATING A PROCESS IN ORDER FOR FOOD VENDORS TO FREELY OPERATE IN THE CITY SO LONG AS THEY WORK WITH A CATERING HOST FACILITY. CORRECT. WAS THAT A PROCESS WE HAD BEFORE, BEFORE THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE? IT WAS NOT DEFINED BEFORE. AND THIS CODE SECTION IS ABOUT EIGHT YEARS OLD AS FAR AS THE COUNTY IS CONCERNED. NO. SO UNDER THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE, WE WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE, UM, UPDATING OUR LEGAL CODE ON THIS MATTER AND GIVING BUSINESSES THE OPPORTUNITY AS LONG AS THEY HAVE THEIR PROPER LICENSES, OF COURSE. AND A LOCAL BUSINESS LICENSE, AS WELL AS WORKING WITH A CATERING HOST FACILITY TO OPERATE WITHIN OUR CITY. THAT'S CORRECT. SO I DO SEE THIS ON A NUMBER OF ISSUES, RIGHT? I THINK, I THINK EVERYBODY LOVES OUR FOOD. I THINK, UM, EVERY FACILITY THAT OPERATES WANTS TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY MEET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS AND GET ALL THEIR PROPER PERMITS. THERE IS DEFINITELY A NEED IN OUR COMMUNITY, UH, THAT WANT TO BE SERVED REALLY GOOD FOOD. UM, BUT THERE'S ALSO LIKE THE HUMAN COMPONENT, WHICH I THINK OFTENTIMES WE MISS. AND SOME OF THE EXAMPLES OF FOLKS THAT CAME OUT, I MEAN, I, I JUST URGE US TO HAVE AN OPEN HEART AND WHAT THIS MEANS FOR INDIVIDUALS. SOME OF US HAVE JOBS, RIGHT? LIKE OUR REGULAR JOBS, THESE ARE THEIR JOBS. THIS IS THEIR LIVELIHOOD. THIS IS WHAT THEY DEPEND ON. THERE'S FAMILIES DEPENDING ON THE INCOME THAT I THINK IS CRITICAL FOR US TO REALIZE. AND SO IN ABSENCE OF HAVING SOMETHING LIKE THIS, UM, VENDORS HAVE HAD TO BE IN FEAR OF HAVING THE CITY, A LOCAL GOVERNMENT AGENCY, OUR OWN GOVERNMENT ESSENTIALLY SHUT THEM DOWN. AND THAT MEANS SHUTTING DOWN THEIR SOURCE OF INCOME, WHICH, WHICH IS NOT OKAY. SO I'M GLAD THAT THIS INITIATIVE NOW, THIS, THIS PROPOSAL WILL ESSENTIALLY BE HELPING OUR FAMILIES, HELPING OUR FOOD VENDORS, HELPING OUR SMALL BUSINESSES CREATE A PATHWAY TO THRIVE. MM-HMM. . AND WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT BEFORE. SO I'M GLAD THAT THIS ORDINANCE IS HERE. UM, I THINK, I THINK ANOTHER MISCONCEPTION, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE I'VE HEARD THIS AS WELL BETWEEN BRICK AND MORTAR AND FOOD VENDORS, I, THERE'S NOT TOO MANY BRICK AND MORTAR PLACES OTHER THAN FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS THAT SERVE FOOD PAST NINE OR 10:00 PM THERE'S JUST NOT. AND, AND SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN YOU SEE THE MAJORITY, THE BULK OF FOOD VENDOR ACTIVITY, IT OCCURS IN THE AFTERNOON AND EVENING, OFTENTIMES NOT IN COMPETITION WITH BRICK AND MORTAR. SO I THINK THAT'S JUST IMPORTANT TO, TO NOTE. NOT THAT I HAD ANY EXPERIENCE BEING OUTSIDE OF MACHETE, YOU KNOW, BUT, UM, I REALIZE THAT THERE'S NOT VERY MANY PLACES TO EAT AFTER 10:00 PM UM, IN NATIONAL CITY. SO I THINK THIS IS A REALLY GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT OUR SMALL BUSINESSES, CONTINUE TO SUPPORT OUR LOCAL FAMILIES TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY THRIVE AND DO WELL. UM, AND WITH THAT, I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT ITEM 11.1. TO INTRODUCE, INTRODUCE, SORRY. INTRODUCE ITEM 11.1. I'LL SECOND. OKAY. AND, UH, AND I HAVE COMMENTS. ONE SECOND. I THINK, UH, THAT VICE MAYOR ANI WAS WANTING TO SPEAK, BUT THEY HAD YOU OFF SCREEN THERE A MOMENT AGO. OKAY. THANK YOU, MAYOR. [02:20:01] UM, I, I LIKE TO APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT, UM, THIS ORDINANCE WAS REVISITED, UM, BY THE INITIATIVE OF COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, JOSE RODRIGUEZ BECAUSE OF THE NEED FROM, UM, THIS SMALL BUSINESS, UM, ENTREPRENEURS OR BUSINESS OWNERS TO, UH, BE A, UH, RESPONSIBLE BUSINESSES IN OUR CITY. MM-HMM. , I BELIEVE THAT, UM, OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT, UM, HEADED BY OUR ASSISTANT, UM, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, UM, MADE DUE DILIGENCE IN, UM, MAKING SURE THAT WE ALIGN, UM, THIS, UM, ORDINANCE WITH WHAT THE COUNTY, UM, IS, IS, UH, HAS, HAS PROVISIONED TO ALL THE, UH, FOOD VENDORS IN, IN OUR REGION. UM, I BELIEVE THAT, UM, PLANNING DEPARTMENT, I WANTED TO, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN ADDRESS THE PEOPLE WHO ARE EXCITED TO, UH, TO GET THIS, UH, ORDINANCE HAPPEN. UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN THAT THE CITY, THE PLANNING COMM OR THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WILL GIVE THEM GUIDANCE ON HOW TO GET, UH, PROPER DOCUMENTATION, PROPER PERMITTING PROCESS. UM, BUT TO DO THE BUSINESS ASPECT OF THE BUSINESS, I WOULD RECOMMEND FOR THEM TO VISIT THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE TO, UH, GIVE THEM GUIDANCE ON HOW TO RUN THEIR BUSINESS PROPERLY AND RESPONSIBLY. UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, AGAIN, THIS IS A, UH, AN ORDINANCE THAT NEEDS TO BE REVISITED. AND, UH, I AM, I'M, I'M THANKFUL THAT IT'S REVIS IT IS BEING REVISITED, UH, BECAUSE WE NEED IT BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, JUST LIKE WHAT YOU SAID, MAYOR, UM, WE GOTTA BE RESPONSIBLE, UM, BECAUSE THERE ARE, UM, BUSINESSES THAT WILL, UM, WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE BUSINESSES THAT WILL BE IMPACTED, UM, AS WELL AS THE IMPACTS ON OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN THE, THE, THAT IS WHAT YOU HAVE, UM, MENTIONED EARLIER. BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, ALLOWING OUR, OUR DEPARTMENT OR OUR CITY TO, TO REVISIT THIS ORDINANCE AND MAKE SURE THAT THIS VENDORS WILL FOLLOW THIS GUIDELINES AND, AND BECOME RESPONSIBLE BUSINESS OWNERS AND, AND, AND, AND THRIVE AND BE SUCCESSFUL. UM, I THINK THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING THAT, UM, PLANNING DEPARTMENT, UM, IS DOING FOR, FOR THEM. THANK YOU, MAYOR. AND THANK YOU. UM, COUNCIL MEMBER RODRIGUEZ. UH, MEMBER MOLINA. YES. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS FROM VICE MAYOR Y. UM, I ALSO HAD A SIMILAR THOUGHT, AND I DID SHARE IT DURING MY COUNCIL BRIEFING, UH, WITH STAFF THAT I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO ENGAGE, UH, THE NATIONAL CITY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE IF, UM, THESE, THIS IS A NEW TYPE OF BUSINESS AND WE ARE, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S KOSHER OR IT'S, IT'S EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE DOTS ARE, ALL OF THE, I'S ARE DOTTED, ALL THE TSRS CROSSED, THEN PERHAPS THIS IS A NEW VENTURE FOR THE CHAMBER TO ALSO ALLOW, YOU KNOW, MEMBERSHIP FOR THESE, UM, STREET VENDORS AND, AND, YOU KNOW, THEN IT'S A WIN FOR THE STREET VENDORS. THEY BENEFIT FROM THE CHAMBER AND THE CHAMBER BENEFITS FROM, UH, NEW MEMBERS. SO, UH, I, I THINK THAT'S A VERY GOOD, UM, UH, THING THAT, THAT, UM, MS. YAMANI BROUGHT UP. I DID WANT TO THANK MR. READER FOR THE DETAILED PRESENTATION. UH, I KNOW IT WAS A LITTLE BIT HARD TO READ. THERE WAS A LOT OF INFORMATION ON THERE. UM, AND THIS WAS ALL, UH, PUT TOGETHER BY, BY YOUR STAFF OR, OR YOURSELF, UH, MR. READER YES. BY THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, YES. OKAY. UH, DID YOU HAVE ANY, UM, HELP FROM CONSULTANTS? UH, NO. OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, MEMBER BUSH. YES, I, UH, I SUPPORT THIS, UH, STRONGLY. AND I ALSO WANT TO THANK COUNCIL MEMBER RODRIGUEZ FOR TAKING THE LEAD ON THIS, UM, AS WELL AS, UH, OUR CITY STAFF, UH, BEN MARTINEZ, WHO I KNOW TAPPED INTO SOME OF YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH, WITH THESE ISSUES IN LOS ANGELES, IN THE LOS ANGELES AREA. UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO REHASH EVERYTHING THAT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER RODRIGUEZ SAYS, BUT YES, THIS, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS ACTIVATES, UH, ONE OTHER ASPECT. THIS ACTIVATES THE STREETS. UM, SO THERE'S A CONCEPT IN PUBLIC SAFETY CALLED EYES ON THE STREETS. IT ABSOLUTELY DOES THAT. UM, AND I'VE SEEN THAT WHEN I'VE GONE TO A FEW SPOTS, AND IT REALLY, I FEEL LIKE ENLIVENS THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IT ENGAGES PEOPLE LIKE, SO NEIGHBORS GET TO SEE NEIGHBORS, AND IT JUST, IT HELPS BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER. STREET FOOD. IT'S, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL THING. IT REMINDS ME, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, I KNOW MANY OF HERE BEEN TO TIJUANA AND YOU SEE THAT IN TIJUANA, UH, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WALKING THE STREET, AND IT JUST MAKES IT, UH, THE COMMUNITY FEEL LIKE A PLACE OF LOVE. AND THAT'S WHAT THIS DOES. IT'S ALSO PART OF, I THINK IT'S OUR CULTURE IDENTITY HERE IN NATIONAL CITY. UM, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S, UH, WITH THE MEXICANO COMMUNITY OR THE BLACK COMMUNITY, UH, UM, THERE'S PAPI HIBACHI, WHICH [02:25:01] IS A, UM, IT'S A, IT'S A FUSION THAT ALSO OPERATES OFF OF TI UM, OF LIKE KIND OF JAPANESE, LIKE, THERE'S ALL THESE DIFFERENT, UH, CULTURAL FOODS. AND, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CHALLENGE WITH BRICK AND MORTAR IS THE RENTS. UM, IT'S, AND WE JUST, UNFORTUNATELY THERE'S ONE BRICK AND MORTAR COFFEE SHOP, UM, THANK YOU, MINA. THEY ARE ANNOUNCED THAT THEY HAD TO CLOSE. WHY? BECAUSE THE OWNERS, ALLEGEDLY, THE OWNERS JACKED UP THE RENTS LIKE 20%. AND SO IT'S THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT CAUSE, UM, THESE BUSINESSES TO BE DISPLACED CAUSE VACANCIES. AND SO THIS, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, STREET VENDING CATERING, UH, THIS ALLOWS KIND OF THIS LOWER, LOWER BARRIER OF, OF ENTRY AND ALLOWS, UH, ACCESS TO, TO FOLKS TO, LIKE THE COUNCIL MEMBER SAID, UH, HAVE JOBS, EMPLOY THEIR FAMILY, AND, UM, ENLIVEN THE STREETS. SO I THINK THAT'S, UM, REALLY IMPORTANT. IT'S ALSO, I'VE SEEN THAT IT TENDS TO BE A LITTLE MORE AFFORDABLE, UM, THAN SOME OF THE BRICK AND MORTAR SPOTS. AND AGAIN, THAT'S PROBABLY BECAUSE THE RENT, UH, IS SO HIGH WITH BRICK AND MORTAR AND JUST THE CHALLENGES. AND SO, AND I DON'T THINK THAT THEY NECESSARILY CONFLICT, BECAUSE I, I SEE A LOT OF THE STREET VENDING HAPPEN IN THE NIGHTTIME WHEN THERE'S NOT THAT, UH, SAME ACCESS WHEN A LOT OF THE RESTAURANTS CLOSE. UM, AND THE LAST, UH, SO I STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS LAST THING I'LL SAY, UM, TO, TO CHRISTIAN AND ANA. LIKE I, I'VE GONE THERE. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR FOOD. I THINK IT'S GOOD QUALITY FOOD. I JUST ASK FROM YOU. AND REALLY, THIS GOES OUT TO ANY OF THE VENDORS. IT'S STILL REALLY IMPORTANT AS PART OF THIS PROCESS TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE YOUR PERMITS AND THAT'S ALL THE PERMITS. AND CHRISTIAN, I ASKED YOU IF YOU HAD YOUR PERMITS, AND THEN I JUST, YOU KNOW, I, I TRUSTED YOU JUST 'CAUSE YOU'RE FROM NATIONAL CITY, MAN, AND 'CAUSE YOU WENT TO SWEETWATER I AND TRIED TO SU SUPPORT OUR OWN. BUT THEN WHEN I WENT TO CITY STAFF, THEY SAID YOU DIDN'T. AND SO, UM, LIKE IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE, UH, THE PERMITS. UM, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M OPEN ANYONE HERE TO CRITICIZE US ON THE DIETS AND TO, UM, TO, TO GIVE US THAT CONSTRUCTIVE FEEDBACK. UM, BUT IT, IT JUST, IT HAS TO BE, UH, CONSISTENT, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE GONNA, YOU KNOW, UM, CRITICIZE ALL OF, OF NATIONAL CITY AND, AND WHAT WE DO. AND THAT, AND I DID CALL AND ASK OUR NATIONAL CITY CHAMBER, UM, CHRISTIAN TO CALL YOU. THEY, SO THEIR CLAIM TO ME WAS THAT YOU HADN'T GOTTEN BACK TO THEM. UM, WHEN I TALKED TO THE CHAMBER, AND THEN WHEN YOU SAID YOU GOT THE BOOT, I TALKED TO MA AT THE BEER HOUSE, THEY SAID THEY DIDN'T BOOT YOU OUT. SO THOSE, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT, UM, IT, LIKE, SO I'M GETTING DIFFERENT STORIES. UH, IT'S KIND OF A MOOT POINT AT THIS POINT BECAUSE WE'RE APPROVING THIS ORDINANCE. AND I APPRECIATE YOUR ADVOCACY. AND AGAIN, I THINK YOU GIVE, UH, GOOD QUALITY FOOD. BUT I JUST ASK TOO THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THAT YOU WORK WITH THE CITY, UM, HAND IN HAND THAT, UH, WE, WE MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL COMMUNICATING TOGETHER, UH, BECAUSE LIKE THE, THESE THINGS COME UP WITH, UH, WITH WHETHER IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, ISSUES WITH PERMITS OR ISSUES WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS. AND SO WE JUST GOTTA MAKE SURE, ESPECIALLY IF, IF, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GONNA BE CRITICAL OF, OF THE CITY IN OUR, IN OUR PROCESS. SO JUST PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU DO THAT. I HOPE YOU CAN COME BACK TO, TO NATIONAL CITY. UM, AND I'M REALLY PROUD OF JUST, AGAIN, THE WORK THAT THE CITY STAFF AND COUNCIL MEMBER DID ON THIS. AND THIS IS A BIG STEP FORWARD. THANK YOU. YEAH. AND I, UM, I AGREE. I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GONNA SEE A MAJORITY OF, IF THESE POPUPS, UH, TYPE DEAL HAPPENS, IT WILL BE, UH, IT WILL BE WITH A PLACE THAT IS EITHER, UM, A PLACE THAT SERVES ALCOHOL, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. I MEAN, 'CAUSE THEY'RE OPEN LATER, UH, OR A, UH, RESTAURANT OR A MARKET, UH, 'CAUSE I KNOW LIKE RODEO'S DOES IT DOWN THERE ON HIGHLAND AVENUE ON, UH, WHAT, UH, 400 BLOCK, 500 BLOCK OF HIGHLAND AVENUE. UH, THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE DONE IT FOR QUITE SOME TIME, UH, IN THEIR PARKING LOT. UH, SO YOU'LL SEE IT NORMALLY WITH THOSE. BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT EVERY PLACE THAT SERVES ALCOHOL OR EVERY RESTAURANT OR EVERY, UM, OH, SUPERMARKET QUALIFIES TO BE A SITE. SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, ONCE AGAIN, THAT'S PART OF THE PROCESS OF FINDING OUT HOW DOES EVERYTHING FIT, HOW DOES YOUR BUSINESS FIT WITH IT? HOW DOES THAT BUSINESS FIT? AND MAJORITY, UH, ARE GONNA BE MUCH MORE, I THINK THERE'S GONNA BE THE ACTUAL BUSINESSES THEMSELF, BECAUSE WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF BUSINESSES THAT WANT TO SERVE OUTSIDE. UH, BECAUSE ACTUALLY OUR RULES RIGHT NOW SAYS IT HAS OFF SERVICE HAS TO BE INSIDE THE BUILDING. WHICH, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THERE'S BEEN CASES THAT THAT'S HAD BEEN TRUE. AND ESPECIALLY THAT GOT STARTED DURING COVID, WE STARTED SERVING MORE AND MORE OUTSIDE, BUT THAT WAS AGAINST OUR CODE, THAT WAS AGAINST OUR, OUR REGULATIONS. SO THIS, THIS WILL GONNA CLARIFY THAT, AND I THINK YOU'RE GONNA SEE A LOT OF EXISTING BUSINESSES ARE GONNA BE DOING THEIR OWN STUFF, BUT OUTSIDE. AND SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT ONLY GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, THE INDEPENDENT ONES THAT ARE WORKING WITH THE, I FORGET NOW THE, THE, THE TERM WE CALL FOR THAT, THE, UH, UH, BUT I FORGET NOW WHAT, WHAT THAT TERM WAS. BUT THAT, UM, THEY GET TO WORK WITH [02:30:01] THE BUSINESS, A SEPARATE BUSINESS GETS TO WORK WITH THEM TO, TO DO THE SERVING. UM, DIRECT SALES CATERING. YEAH, DIRECT SALES CATERING. AND, UH, SO YES, THAT'S GONNA BE SOME OF IT, BUT A LOT OF IT IS GONNA BE THE BUSINESS THEMSELF DOING IT IF ONCE AGAIN, THEY MEET THE CRITERIA, UM, TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. SO, UM, I THINK IT'S ALL GOOD. SOME ALL GOOD STUFF AND GIVES US SOME GOOD OPPORTUNITY. BUT ONCE AGAIN, WE ALL GOTTA MAKE SURE THAT WE WORK TOGETHER ON THIS THING SO THAT, YOU KNOW, AS WE ALL KNOW, WITH ANY PROCESS, ALL IT TAKES IS A COUPLE OF BAD APPLES THAT RUIN IT FOR EVERYBODY. AND THAT'S THE LAST THING WE WANT. WE WANNA MAKE, MAKE SURE THAT WE AS A COMMUNITY WORK TOGETHER, MAKE THIS INTO A REAL SUCCESS STORY AND, UH, WITHOUT ANY OF THE HASSLES. UM, WITH THAT, SEEING NOTHING ELSE, WE HAVE A MOTION, A SECOND FOR INTRODUCTION. UH, CAN WE HAVE ROLL CALL? COUNCIL MEMBER BUSH? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER RODRIGUEZ. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER MOLINA? YES. VICE MAYOR YAMANI. AYE. MAYOR MORRISON. AYE. MOTION PASSES. THAT WILL COME BACK AT OUR NEXT MEETING, UH, FOR POSSIBLE ADOPTION. NOW, MR. MAYOR, CAN WE TAKE A BREAK REALLY QUICK? CAN WE TAKE A BREAK PLEASE? UH, LET'S, LET'S THREE 40. I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, LET'S HANDLE THIS NEXT ONE. 'CAUSE IT'S DIRECTLY RELATED TO THIS ONE. OKAY. WELL, AS LONG, LONG, AS LONG AS YOU'RE JUST GOING TO THE RESTROOM, NOT RUNNING FOR THE CAMERA. CAN I, YEAH. ARE WE ON A BREAK? HUH? NO, NO, WE WAS TRYING TO GET BACK TO THIS NEXT ONE BECAUSE IT TIES IN WITH THIS ONE AND IT SHOULD GO VERY QUICKLY. YEAH. AND, UH, I'M SURE WE'LL SEE HIM ON THE 11 O'CLOCK MEETING. HE'S, HE'S COMING BACK. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UM, NOW THIS IS [11.2 Ordinance for Introduction – Discharge of Fats, Oils and Grease (FOG) to the Municipal Sewer System.] ANOTHER ORDINANCE FOR INTRODUCTION. THIS IS FOR DISCHARGE OF FATS, OILS, AND GREASE TO THE MUNICIPAL SEWER SYSTEM. AND THIS TIES IN DIRECTLY WITH THAT BECAUSE THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS YOU HAVE TO HAVE TO BE ABLE TO DO. AND, UH, AND NOT ONLY FOR THIS, BUT ALSO FOR HOUSEHOLDS AND EVERYTHING ELSE, AND EXISTING BUSINESSES. SO WITH THAT STAFF, ANY STAFF REPORT? UH, THANK YOU MAYOR. WE'RE GONNA HAVE OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING AND PUBLIC WORKS. MARTHA JUAREZ, INTRODUCE THIS ITEM. GOOD EVENING MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, CITY MANAGER, AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY. UM, AGAIN, MY NAME IS MARTA JUAREZ, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR ENGINEERING AND PUBLIC WORKS. UH, WE'RE BRINGING, I DON'T HAVE A PRESENTATION, I'M JUST GONNA, I HAVE SOME TALKING POINTS. YOU HAVE THE, THE STAFF REPORT, OF COURSE, AND THE, THE DRAFT ORDINANCE REVISIONS. UH, WE'RE BRINGING THIS ITEM TO YOU TONIGHT FOR FIRST READING AND INTRODUCTION OF AN ORDINANCE THAT WILL PROVIDE FURTHER CLARITY TO TITLE 14 OF THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY MUNICIPAL CODE, WHICH COVERS WATER AND SEWERS WITH REGARD SPECIFICALLY TO THE DISCHARGE OF FATS, OILS, AND GREASE, ALSO KNOWN AS FOG INTO OUR SEWER SYSTEM. SO THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY IS REQUIRED TO COMPLY WITH RULES SET BY THE STATE WATER RESOURCES CONTROL BOARD AND THE REGIONAL WATER QUALITY CONTROL BOARD. AND AS A LOCAL AGENCY, WE HAVE A DUTY TO LIMIT THE DISCHARGE OF MATERIALS INTO OUR SEWER SYSTEM, WHICH ARE NOT ALLOWED, INCLUDING FATS OILS IN GREECE. SO WHILE THESE RULES, UH, HAVE BEEN IN PLACE FOR DECADES, AND, UM, WE, WE ARE IN, IN COMPLIANCE, THE WATER BOARD DID UPDATE THE REQUIREMENTS OF ITS SANITARY SEWER SYSTEM. GENERAL ORDER LAST YEAR BECAME EFFECTIVE LAST YEAR. AND IN ORDER TO ALIGN WITH THOSE REVISIONS, INCLUDING SOME ADDITIONAL, UH, INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE TO INCLUDE IN OUR REPORTS IN OUR SANITARY SEWER, UH, MASTER PLAN AS WELL, UM, WE ARE PROPOSING THESE REVISIONS AND ADDING A SECTION TO TITLE 14, UH, SO THAT WE HAVE MORE CLARITY AND WE CAN BETTER DEFINE THE RULES, REGULATIONS, AND ENFORCEMENT TO PREVENT THE DISCHARGE OF FOG INTO OUR SEWER SYSTEM. UH, AS YOU MAY KNOW, THE STREETS AND WASTEWATER DIVISION WITHIN THE ENGINEERING AND PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT OVERSEES THE OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE OF OUR MUNICIPAL, UH, SEWER SYSTEM. AND THE ENGINEERING DIVISION MANAGES THE QUALITY COMP WATER QUALITY COMPLIANCE, INCLUDING A FOG PROGRAM THAT FOCUSES ON GREASE PRODUCING FACILITIES AND RESTAURANTS OR WHAT WE CALL FOOD SERVICE ESTABLISHMENTS. UM, I WILL CONTINUE WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION. AND THEN FROM AN OPERATIONAL PERSPECTIVE, UM, UNFORTUNATELY, THE BUILDUP OF FOG WITHIN OUR PIPES REALLY RESTRICTS THE FLOW CAPACITY AND RAISES THE RISK OF SANITARY SEWER OVERFLOWS AND SPILLS, WHICH ARE NOT ONLY A REGULATORY VIOLATION, BUT ALSO CAN HARM THE ENVIRONMENT AND POTENTIALLY CREATE HEALTH HAZARDS. SO THE INTENDED GOAL OF THIS ORDINANCE IS TO REALLY ENABLE OUR TEAM TO BETTER INFORM THE PUBLIC AND BUSINESSES THAT GENERATE FOG ABOUT THESE RULES. AND THE ENFORCEMENT, UH, IS PRESCRIBED, BETTER PRESCRIBED IN THE ORDINANCE AND WILL FOLLOW IF VIOLATIONS ARE FOUND. I [02:35:01] DO ALSO WANT TO STATE THAT OUR DEPARTMENT HAS HAD A VERY ROBUST FOG PROGRAM, UH, FOR MANY YEARS AS REQUIRED. AND THAT INCLUDES ANNUAL NOTIFICATIONS, A SELF-CERTIFICATION PROCESS AND INSPECTIONS TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE. AND THIS WILL CONTINUE UNDER THE NEW ORDINANCE JUST WITH MORE INFORMATION AND CLARITY. UH, SO TO RECAP, THIS ORDINANCE SEEKS TO AMEND TITLE 14 OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE, AND WE WOULD BE BRINGING THE ORDINANCE BACK FOR A SECOND HEARING AND RECOMMENDATION FOR ADOPTION IN MAY. IF, IF YOU APPROVE PROCEEDING, UH, WHICH WILL BECOME EFFECTIVE 30 DAYS THEREAFTER, I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. OKAY. UH, JUST REAL QUICKLY, YOU'VE MENTIONED IT SEVERAL TIMES ABOUT THE SEWER SYSTEM, BUT WOULD THIS ALSO INCLUDE OUR, UM, OH, OUR STREET, UH, WATER DISCHARGE? AS FAR AS, SO THE, THE RULE THAT WE COMPLY WITH, UH, BY IMPLEMENTING THIS ADDITIONAL FOG ORDINANCE IS, UM, THE STATE WATER RESOURCES CONTROL BOARD OVERSEES A LOT OF WATER RELATED COMPLIANCE. BOTH, UH, CLEAN WATER, UH, STORM WATER, STORM WATER, BASICALLY ANYTHING THAT COULD DISCHARGE INTO A NATURAL BODY OF WATER. SO THAT INCLUDES SEPARATELY REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE SPECIFIC TO SEWER SYSTEMS RELATED TO SEWER SYSTEM OVERFLOWS OR SPILLS. UM, AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, STORM WATER DISCHARGE SEPARATELY. RIGHT? SO THIS ORDER SPECIFICALLY IS ABOUT SEWER SYSTEM OVERFLOWS AND, UH, ENABLING US AS THE LOCAL AGENCIES TO PREVENT THOSE SPILLS FROM HAPPENING. AND FOG, A LOT OF FOG IN OUR PIPES CAN CAUSE THOSE SPILLS BECAUSE THE PIPES, YOU KNOW, EFFECTIVELY BECOME SMALLER AND THE CAPACITY'S IMPACTED. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UH, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, BUT, UM, IF WE COULD OPEN THE PUBLIC, I'M GONNA OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT WE HAVE NO SPEAKERS. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANYTHING ON ZOOM. OKAY. SO, WITH THAT, IF WE COULD ASK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND. OKAY. UH, CAN WE HAVE ROLL CALL PLEASE? I HAVE A QUESTION FOR OUR ATTORNEY. YEP. UM, WILL COUNCIL MEMBER RODRIGUEZ BE VOTING ON THIS SINCE HE WAS NOT PRESENT DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING? I HEARD IT FROM RIGHT OUTSIDE AS I WAS WALKING IN, BUT I ALSO GOT BRIEFED ON IT. BUT I'M OKAY WITH IT. I WOULD TAKE YOUR RECOMMENDATION ATTORNEY AND I WOULD SAY IN PRACTICE I'VE STEPPED OUT DURING, LIKE, TO USE THE BATHROOM BEFORE AND IT'S NOT COME UP, IT'S A VALID QUESTION, BUT I, I THINK IF YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THE INFORMATION, IF YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THE INFORMATION THAT'S PRESENTED IN THE PACKET AND WHAT YOU HEARD DURING YOUR PRESENCE DEFER TO YOU. YEAH. THERE WAS NO PUBLIC TESTIMONY, SO, YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. YEP. JUST WANNA CLARIFY, I, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE US MAYBE TAKE TWO, TWO AND A HALF HOUR, UH, RESTROOM BREAK. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. I'M JUST TRYING TO GET THROUGH THIS ONE ITEM REAL QUICKLY 'CAUSE IT WAS CONNECTED EVERY TWO HOURS OR SO. EVERY TWO AND A HALF HOURS. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. AND, UH, UM, ROLL CALL. YEAH, ROLL CALL PLEASE. COUNCIL MEMBER BUSH? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER RODRIGUEZ. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER MOLINA? YES. VICE MAYOR IMANI. AYE. MAYOR MORRISON. AYE. UM, SO NOW WE NEED A, A MOTION FOR INTRODUCTION. SO MOVE, MR. CHAIRMAN. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. OKAY. YEAH. UM, YEAH, AND LEMME JUST SAY THAT WE'VE, I KNOW IN THE PAST WE'VE HAD PROBLEMS WITH BOTH OUR SEWER SYSTEM AND OUR STORM WATER SYSTEM WITH BOTH, EVERYTHING FROM NOT ONLY GREASE FROM COOKING, BUT THEN ALSO, UH, WITH THE STORM WATER EVEN MORE SO, UH, MOTOR OIL PEOPLE JUST DOING, JUST DUMPING IT THERE AND LET IT RUN DOWN THE, UH, RUNNING DOWN INTO THE, UH, STORM WATER SYSTEM. AND SAME TIME, AND TO BE HONEST, WITH SOMETIMES WITH SOME OF OUR EVENTS, UH, THE, UH, OH, GREASE ALSO GETS IN END UP GETTING DUMPED. IT GETS INTO OUR STORM WATER SYSTEM TOO. AND SO, UH, SO YEAH, IT'S TAKING INTO ALL THOSE THINGS FROM ACCOUNT. UH, WITH THAT WE HAVE, OH, YES, ONE QUESTION, MAYOR. UM, BEFORE WE GO INTO, I, I KNOW THE MOTION IS ON THE FLOOR, BUT I DID WANNA MENTION TO STAFF AND, AND THANK YOU MS. JUAREZ FOR THE PRESENTATION. UM, I ALWAYS APPRECIATE HOW KNOWLEDGEABLE YOU ARE ABOUT ALL OF THIS. THE THING IN THE REPORT THAT I LIKED A LOT ABOUT THIS MEASURE HERE IS THAT IT INCLUDES A LOT OF EDUCATION. UM, ACTUALLY I THINK IT'S ONE OF THE BULLET POINTS ON THERE THAT, YOU KNOW, IMPLEMENTING, UM, EDUCATING BUSINESSES AND LETTING THEM KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHY THIS IS IMPORTANT. I THINK, UH, RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, FOLKS THAT ARE WORKING IN THEIR HOMES, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S PROBABLY COMMON KNOWLEDGE, AT LEAST IT IS TO ME, THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T WANNA PUT GREASE DOWN THE DRAIN, YOU'RE GONNA END UP WITH CLOGGED DRAINS, AND THEN THAT'S A HEADACHE FOR THAT RESIDENCE, RIGHT? SO, UM, IF THAT IS HAPPENING, [02:40:01] YOU KNOW, AT A, AT A BUSINESS LEVEL AND IT'S AFFECTING NOT, YOU KNOW, PIPES NECESSARILY IN A RESIDENCE, BUT ACTUALLY THE SEWER SYSTEM IN THE CITY, THAT IS A PROBLEM. SO I, I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT EDUCATING THE PUBLIC AS PART OF THIS, UM, ACTION. AND, UM, YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT COMMENT. , IF I MAY ADD SOME CLARIFICATION. SO WE DO INCLUDE EDUCATION AS PART OF OUR PROGRAM. UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE NOTICED, BUT IN THE LAST SEVERAL QUARTERLY NEWSLETTERS THAT GO OUT CITYWIDE THAT ARE PRODUCED BY THE COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT, WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD, UH, SOME GRAPHICS IN THERE, BOTH, UM, THAT MENTIONED THE, UH, THE WIPES DO NOT FLUSH WIPES DOWN THE TOILET. SO THAT ACTUALLY IS RELATED TO THIS, UH, UH, SEWER ORDER, THE, THE STATE REGIONAL WATER QUALITY CONTROL, UM, BOARD, UH, ORDER AS WELL, RIGHT. PREVENTING ANY OF THOSE MATERIALS THAT COULD CAUSE SANITARY SEWER OVERFLOW. SO WE HAVE BEEN ADDING THAT TO THE NEWSLETTER THAT GOES OUT COMMUNITY WIDE. AND, UM, AFTER ADOPTION OF THIS ORDINANCE, WE WILL ALSO, UH, PLAN TO DO A MAILER, UH, TO ALL NATIONAL CITY RESIDENTS, UM, INDICATING THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE RULES OF THIS NEW ORDINANCE AS WELL AS REMINDING THEM, GIVING THEM SOME TIPS FOR HOW TO, HOW TO BEST, UH, SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, THE HEALTH OF OUR SEWER SYSTEM AS WELL. FANTASTIC. THANK YOU. YES. I, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR EVERYBODY TO PLAY A ROLE IN THIS. THIS IS OUR CITY. WE ARE ALL RESPONSIBLE FOR TAKING CARE OF OUR CITY. SO, UH, THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION. YOU'RE WELCOME. ALRIGHT, WITH THAT, I THINK WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THE INTRODUCTION. IF WE COULD HAVE ROLL CALL PLEASE. COUNCIL MEMBER BUSH? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER RODRIGUEZ. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER MOLINA? YES. VICE MAYOR IMANI. AYE. MAYOR MORRISON. AYE. THANK YOU. MOTION PASSES. OKAY, WITH THAT WE WILL TAKE A SHORT BREAK NOW AND, UH, TRY TO KEEP IT SHORT. MS. BE BACK HERE NO LATER THAN NINE O'CLOCK. I'D LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING, UH, BACK TO ORDER. AND, UH, WE HAVE ALL MEMBERS PRESENT EITHER AT THE DIOCESE ON ZOOM, UH, AND SO WITH THAT, WE WILL, UH, MOVE ON TO ITEM [11.3 Public Hearing and Adoption of a Resolution of the City Council of the City of National City amending the previously adopted Transportation Development Impact Fee (TDIF) schedule and annual adjustment to the TDIF.] 11.3. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND ADOPTION OF A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL, UM, AMENDING THE PREVIOUSLY ADOPTED TRANSPORTATION DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEE. THE T DIFF SCHEDULED AN ANNUAL ADJUSTMENT TO THE TD STAFF. UH, THANK YOU MAYOR. UH, STEVE MANGANELLI, DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING PUBLIC WORKS. UM, EACH YEAR, SANDAG, UM, GOES THROUGH A PROCESS TO REVIEW, UM, THEIR, THEIR FEE REQUIREMENTS. AND, UH, EACH YEAR WE ARE REQUIRED TO, UM, ADOPT WHAT THEIR ANNUAL RATE ADJUSTMENT IS IN ORDER TO RECEIVE OUR, UM, LOCAL SHARE OF TRANSNET UH, REVENUES. SO THIS YEAR, UH, THE FEES FOR THE TRANSPORTATION, UM, DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEE PROGRAM WILL BE GOING UP FROM $2,741 AND 97 CENTS PER NEW RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNIT TO $2,875 AND 6 CENTS. UH, SO ROUGHLY $150 EFFECTIVE JULY 1ST OF THIS YEAR. I WILL NOTE THAT THERE ARE, UH, SOME EX UH, EXEMPTIONS. SO FOR EXAMPLE, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS ARE EXEMPT AND ALSO ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS ARE EXEMPT. THERE'S, THERE'S ADDITIONAL LIST OF EXEMPTIONS IN OUR ORDINANCE WITH THAT, UM, I'M OPEN TO ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS ON THE PRESENTATION? OKAY. IN THAT CASE, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE DO HAVE ONE, ONE SPEAKER ON THIS. UH, THOMAS REICH. THIS IS A VERY EXPENSIVE THING. $2,875 FOR, FOR, UH, FOR ONE BUILDING, FOR EACH RESIDENCE, FOR ONE, WHEN THEY CONSTRUCT IT, AND IT'S ALL FULL EXP AND IT GOES TO, AND I, AND I WANT TO KNOW IF THAT FEE GOES TO NATIONAL CITY OR GOES DIRECTLY TO THE, THE, THE TRANSPORTATION DEVELOPMENT BOARD. OKAY. AND THAT'S THE THING. AND IT, IT'S, UH, I WANT TO, WHEN I GO BY THE, WHEN I GO BUY THESE APARTMENT HOUSES, [02:45:01] THESE, THE TRANSPORTATION DEVELOPMENT BOARD SUPPOSEDLY GETS $2,000 FOR PUTTING A TRAFFIC PLAN THERE AND MAYBE MAKING A RED CURB OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT DO THEY DO? THAT'S OKAY. THAT, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE. I I THINK I CAN ANSWER THAT BECAUSE I WAS ONE THAT HELPED PUT THIS INTO THE, UH, UH, INTO THE PROPOSAL BACK IN 2004. UM, THE, UH, THE TD WHAT IT IS, IT IS FOR REGIONAL ARTERIALS. WHAT, WHAT, SAY AGAIN? THE T THIS IS CALLED A T DIFF, THE TRANSPORTATION DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEE. AND SO THEY, THEY CALL IT TD AND, AND IT IS FOR, IT IS FOR INCREASING THE CAPACITY IN THE REGIONAL ARTERIALS. AND SO WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IS, BECAUSE IF YOU'RE, YOU'RE GONNA INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF, UH, OF PEOPLE ON IN AN AREA THAT IT'S GONNA CAUSE A LOT OF PROBLEMS ON, UH, REGIONAL ARTERIALS. WE HAVE A LOT OF REGIONAL ARTERIALS IN NATIONAL CITY, WHETHER IT'S NATIONAL CITY BOULEVARD, HIGHLAND, WHETHER IF IT'S, UH, UH, 30TH, UH, DIVISION EIGHTH PLAZA, THERE'S A, THERE'S A GOOD EUCLID, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF 'EM HERE IN OUR SMALL CITY. AND, UH, SO IT'S FOR INCREASING THE CAPACITY ON THAT AND THE MONEY GOES TO THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY AND, BUT WE HAVE TO SPEND IT WITHIN FIVE YEARS. IF WE DO NOT SPEND IT WITHIN FIVE YEARS, IT GOES INTO THAT REGIONAL POT. SO NEED TO SAY, WE MAKE SURE WE ALWAYS SPEND IT, BUT, UH, UH, SO THAT IT STAYS HERE. BUT THE, UH, ONE OF THE ASPECTS IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH WE CAN DO WITH OUR ROADS, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO INCREASE THE CAPACITY. SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE ADDED IN ON THIS ONE, IT COULD ALSO INCREASE THE CAPACITY ON PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. SO THIS CREATIVELY COULD BE USED FOR THE PART. AND I KNOW WE HAVE OUR, UH, OUR FRA HERE, THAT PART, WHICH IS ON THE REGIONAL ARTERIALS, THAT AMOUNT ON IT, WE COULD ACTUALLY USE SOME OF THIS FUNDING EVEN EVEN TO HELP IT. SO, BUT ON THE PORTION THAT'S REGIONAL ARTERIAL, NOT, NOT FOR THE TOTAL COST OF IT, BUT YEAH. SO, SO THE MONEY STAYS HERE, UH, IN THE CITY AND IT HAS TO BE USED FOR INCREASING THE CAPACITY OF THE REGIONAL ARTERIALS. OUR MAIN STREETS CAPACITY WAS FREE, WAS ONLY, WELL, THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE ADDED IN THEIR PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION $2,000 FOR DOING THAT . YEP. OKAY. THANK YOU. UHHUH. . OKAY. THAT'S ALL THE SPEAKERS THAT WE HAVE ON THIS. WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ON ZOOM, DO WE? OKAY. UM, SO I WOULD ASK, WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING SHOULD MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. WE HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE. COUNCIL MEMBER BUSH? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER RODRIGUEZ. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER MOLINA? YES. VICE MAYOR AMANI. AYE. MAYOR MORRISON. UH, AYE. MOTION PASSES. ALRIGHT. AND SO NOW THIS IS FOR, UH, THE ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTION MAYOR. I MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION AS DIRECTED BY STAFF. I'LL SECOND THAT. MAYOR. OKAY. AND WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. I DO REMIND YOU, I, I APPRECIATE WHAT OUR, UM, ENGINEER BROUGHT UP IS THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF EXEMPTIONS ON THIS, AND IT DOES, LOW INCOME HOUSING DOES NOT PAY FOR THIS. SENIOR HOUSING IS ANOTHER ONE. THERE'S A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT THINGS WHERE IT DOES NOT, UH, IT DOES NOT COUNT TOWARD, UH, FROM THIS. AND BECAUSE THEY WANTED DELIBERATELY TO KEEP THOSE PRICES LOW, UH, FOR THOSE TYPE HOUSING. BUT THEN ONCE AGAIN, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT MONEY TO DO PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION FOR THOSE, UH, FOR THOSE ALSO. SO IT'S A BALANCE. UM, WITH THAT, SAY NOTHING ELSE. CAN WE HAVE ROLL CALL? COUNCIL MEMBER BUSH? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER RODRIGUEZ. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER? YES. VICE MAYOR YAMANI. AYE. MAYOR MORRISON. AYE. MOTION PASSES. ALRIGHT, NEXT WE [12.1 Update on Bid Results for El Toyon Park Improvements (CIP No. 22-26) ] GO INTO, UM, 12.1. THIS IS AN UPDATE ON THE BID RESULTS FOR THE EL TOON PARK IMPROVEMENT. UH, THANK YOU MAYOR STEVE MANGANELLO, DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING PUBLIC WORKS. UM, WE DID WANNA BRING THIS ITEM TO YOUR ATTENTION. BACK IN, UM, NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR, THE CITY COUNCIL, UM, OF NATIONAL CITY ENTERED INTO A PROJECT LABOR AGREEMENT WITH SAN DIEGO COUNTY BUILDING AND CONSTRUCTION TRADES COUNCIL AND THE ASSOCIATED SIGNATORY CRAFT UNIT U UNIONS, UM, TO ENTER TO, UH, CREATE A PROJECT LABOR AGREEMENT. UM, THE, THE MAIN, UM, TRIGGER FOR, UH, QUALIFYING A PROJECT UNDER THE PLA IS A CONSTRUCTION VALUE OF AT LEAST A MILLION DOLLARS. SO OUR FIRST PROJECT THAT, UM, WAS BID OUT, UM, UNDER THE, THE PLA WAS L TOON PARK IMPROVEMENTS. UH, IT'S ROUGHLY A THREE AND A HALF TO $4 MILLION, UH, PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT PROJECT FOR L TOON PARK. [02:50:01] UM, WE WANTED TO DETAIL IN THE STAFF REPORT, SINCE THIS WAS THE FIRST PROJECT BID UNDER THE PLA, THE ADDITIONAL OUTREACH AND OPPORTUNITIES WE PROVIDED TO CONTRACTORS. UH, SO FOR EXAMPLE, UH, TYPICALLY WE'LL BID A PROJECT FOR FOUR WEEKS. THIS ONE WE BID FOR SEVEN WEEKS. UM, TYPICALLY WE'LL HOLD ONE PRE-BID MEETING TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. WE HELD TWO, UH, WE DID RECEIVE A LOT OF INTEREST. WE HAD 16 CONTRACTORS, UM, GO ON TO OUR, OUR, UH, PLANET BIDS SITE TO DOWNLOAD THE PLANS TO REVIEW THE PROJECT. WE, WE HAD A LOT OF CONTRACTORS SHOW UP, PARTICULARLY AT OUR FIRST PRE-BID MEETING. UM, UNFORTUNATELY WHEN WE, WE DID HAVE OUR, OUR BID OPENING RECENTLY, WE ONLY RECEIVED ONE BID, AND THAT ONE BID WAS MORE THAN DOUBLE THE ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE, WHICH WAS UNFORTUNATE. UM, AND THEN AFTER FURTHER INSPECTING THE BID, UM, IT WAS DETERMINED TO BE, UM, NON-CONFORMING. SO TECHNICALLY WE HAVE ZERO QUALIFIED BIDS. SO, UM, DURING THE CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS, WE DID PUT SOME SAFEGUARDS INTO THE PLA, UM, ONE OF WHICH IS THERE NEEDS TO BE AT LEAST A MINIMUM OF THREE QUALIFIED BIDDERS. UM, AND, AND TWO, THE LOW BID NEEDS TO BE WITHIN 10% OF THE ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE. UM, THESE, THESE PROVISIONS ALLOW THE COUNCIL, UM, TO RE-BID THE PROJECT WITHOUT THE THE PLA REQUIREMENTS. UM, THAT DOES PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY, PERHAPS FOR, FOR OTHER CONTRACTORS TO COME IN AND PROVIDE COMPETITIVE BIDS. IT ALSO DOES NOT PRECLUDE UNIONS FROM PARTICIPATING IN THE PROCESS. SO I WANNA MAKE THAT CLEAR. YOU KNOW, THE OTHER THING I'LL NOTE IS THIS IS A NEW PROCESS FOR NATIONAL CITY. THERE'S NOT A LOT OF, UM, LOCAL CITIES IN THE COUNTY THAT HAVE PLA. SO A LOT OF THE CONTRACTORS THAT DO MUNICIPAL PROJECTS AREN'T FAMILIAR WITH PLA. SO IT'S GOING TO TAKE TIME, IT'S GOING TO TAKE TIME TO, UM, YOU KNOW, GET THEM TO UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS AND, AND HOPEFULLY SUBMIT COMPETITIVE BIDS. UM, SO AGAIN, WHAT WHAT WE PLAN ON DOING IS, UM, GETTING THIS BACK OUT TO BID WITHOUT THE PLA REQUIREMENTS BY THE END OF THIS MONTH. 'CAUSE IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE, WE GET THIS PROJECT DONE CONSTRUCTION FOR THE COMMUNITY. UM, ONE OF THE THINGS I DID WANNA MENTION IS, IS, UH, THIS PROJECT IS FUNDED THROUGH A PROP 68 GRANT. UH, FORTUNATELY WE, UH, WE DID RECEIVE A SIGNIFICANT TIME EXTENSION. UM, WE ORIGINALLY NEEDING TO COM, UH, COMPLETE CONSTRUCTION BY JUNE OF NEXT YEAR. UH, WE HAVE A THREE YEAR EXTENSION NOW. SO WE DO HAVE PLENTY OF TIME TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS AGAIN AND, UM, AND HOPEFULLY GET, GET SOME MORE BIDDERS AND, AND, AND HOPEFULLY THE LOW BID WILL BE WITHIN OUR BUDGET THIS GO AROUND. SO WITH THAT, UM, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, BUT MAINLY IT'S JUST, UH, AN INFORMATIONAL ITEM TO, TO COUNSEL, UM, AND JUST, UH, PROVIDING SOME PERSPECTIVE ON, UM, SOME OF THE FEEDBACK WE GOT FROM CONTRACTORS AS TO WHY THEY DIDN'T BID SOME OF THE CHALLENGES WITH THE PLA. BUT AGAIN, IT WILL TAKE TIME, UH, TO GET CONTRACTORS ON BOARD FOR, FOR THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. UM, MEMBER IMANI. THANK YOU MAYOR. UM, THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT. UM, CITY ENGINEER. UM, I AM GLAD THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO GET THE EXTENSION. UM, IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT IT'S OUR FIRST PLA PROJECT AND, UH, THERE WERE NOT A LOT OF, OF, UM, INTEREST HOPEFULLY WITH, UM, THE SECOND ROUND OF, UM, OF, UH, A BID THAT THERE WILL BE MORE INTERESTS. UM, AND I WOULD ALSO REQUEST THAT YOU WOULDN'T CONSUME THE THREE YEAR EXTENSION BECAUSE WE WANTED ELON UP AND RUNNING. OKAY. UH, WE DO HAVE ONE SPEAKER. OH, SORRY. YOU WANT OH, I CAN WAIT UNTIL, OKAY. EXCUSE ME. RANDY CASTLE SALGADO? YES. [02:55:01] IS THIS 12.2 OR DID I WRITE THE WRONG THING? YOU PUT DOWN 12.10, I'M SORRY. I MEANT 12.2. OKAY. WE WILL CHANGE THAT HERE. THANK YOU. 12.1, BUT WE, WE GOT ONE UP FOR 12.1. ALRIGHT, AND, UM, ALRIGHT, MR. ADA, PLEASE COME FORWARD. UH, GOOD AFTERNOON, NATIONAL CITY, MR. MAYOR, COUNSEL, ED JAKE ESTRADA, AJ ESTRADA WITH THE SAN DIEGO BUILDING AND CONSTRUCTION TRADES COUNCIL. UH, WASN'T AWARE OF THIS ITEM, BUT, UM, HAPPY TO ASSIST WITH THE CITY ANY WAY POSSIBLE. OUR BUSINESS MANAGER, MYSELF, AND GETTING A HOLD OF SOME SIGNATORY CONTRACTORS TO GET THIS, UH, TO WORK. I THINK EVERYBODY WANTS PROJECT LABOR AGREEMENTS TO WORK. I WILL SAY, I DON'T THINK THIS IS NECESSARILY BECAUSE OF A PROJECT LABOR AGREEMENT CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY IS REALLY HOT IN SAN DIEGO NOW ACROSS THE COUNTY. CITY OF SAN DIEGO IS HAVING ISSUES, FINDING CONTRACTORS NOT ON THEIR PROJECT LABOR AGREEMENTS, ANY CONTRACTORS FOR ANY OF THE PROJECTS THAT THEY'RE GOING RIGHT NOW. HAPPY TO CONNECT YOU WITH CITY STAFF OVER THERE WITH NATIONAL CITY STAFF TO KIND OF HEAR WHAT THEIR, WHAT THEIR ISSUES ARE. UM, THIS SEEMS TO BE A GENERAL PROBLEM, THE LACK OF CONTRACTORS RIGHT NOW IN THE REGION FOR THE AMOUNT OF PROJECTS THAT MOST CITIES IN THE REGION HAVE, UH, IN TERMS OF PUBLIC WORKS. SO JUST WANNA MAKE THAT POINT AND OFFER BUILDING TRADES AS A RESOURCE. APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH. OKAY. UH, MEMBER MOLINA? YES. THANK YOU. UM, SO THANK YOU MR. MAN MANGANELLO FOR THE, THE REPORT. UM, I, I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. I, I REALIZE IT'S, THERE'S NO ACTION NEEDED. IT'S, UH, UH, SAFE AND FILE, BUT, UM, I LIKE THE FORTHCOMING INFORMATION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE CHALLENGES HERE. UM, I ESPECIALLY LIKE THAT WE, THE CITY DOES HAVE SAFEGUARDS IN ORDER TO, UM, YOU KNOW, IF, IF WE'RE NOT SUCCESSFUL VIA THE PLA, WE DO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TRY AGAIN. UM, MY QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH PLANET BIDS. IS THAT, UM, PRETTY STANDARD PORTAL TO SUBMIT THESE? ARE THERE OTHER OPTIONS WHEN YOU GO BACK OUT? WILL IT STILL BE PLANET BIDS OR WILL IT OPEN UP WIDER? NO, THAT, THAT'S A REQUIREMENT AND THAT'S STANDARDIZED, UH, FOR MOST PUBLIC AGENCIES. OH. AND THAT IS ON OUR WEBSITE. IT'S ALSO REFERENCED IN THE NOTICE INVITING BIDS. IT'S SUPER SIMPLE FOR A VENDOR OR CONTRACTOR TO JUST CLICK ON THE LINK REGISTER. THEN THEY HAVE ACCESS TO THE PLANS AND BID DOCUMENTS. UM, IT'S A, IT'S A FREE, FREE SERVICE AND IT ALLOWS FOR VERY EFFICIENT, UM, AUTOMATIC, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, BIDDING AND, AND VERY EFFICIENT RESULTS. MM-HMM. . AND I JUST WOULD LIKE TO ADD, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S DEFINITELY, UM, I WOULD AGREE WITH A LOT OF WHAT, UM, THE GENTLEMAN SAID. IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HAVING CHALLENGES IN GENERAL. UM, GETTING, UH, YOU KNOW, A A NUMBER OF CONTRACTORS TO GO AFTER PROJECTS. WHILE THESE ARE BIG IMPORTANT PROJECTS FOR OUR CITY, YOU KNOW, ANY, ANYTHING LESS THAN 20 MILLION IS CONSIDERED SMALL. AND THERE IS A LOT OF LARGE PROJECTS GOING ON IN THE COUNTY, AND A LOT OF THE CONTRACTORS THAT TYPICALLY BID OUR JOBS ARE GOING AFTER, UM, SOME OTHER WORK. UM, SO IT IS TOUGH. UH, WE DID ACTUALLY SEND PERSONAL PERSONAL LETTERS TO EVERY ONE OF THE SIGNATORY CRAFT UNIONS, UM, ABOUT FOUR WEEKS BEFORE THE BID OPENING TO, TO LET THEM KNOW ABOUT THIS PROJECT. UM, WE DID COPY, UM, OUR REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE, UH, SAN DIEGO COUNTY BUILDING IN CONSTRUCTION TRADES. SO SHE WAS AWARE. SO WE, WE DID THAT EXTRA STEP TO LET THEM KNOW, HEY, THIS IS AN, A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU. SO, UH, WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE TRADES COUNCIL AND THE UNIONS TO GET THE WORD OUT AND, UM, HOPEFULLY HAVE THEM AGAIN, HELP US, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, INFORM, YOU KNOW, QUALIFIED CONTRACTORS ABOUT THESE OPPORTUNITIES. MM-HMM, . GREAT. THANK YOU. UH, AND THEN, UM, THE ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE FOR THE, THE PROJECT THAT'S, THAT'S ALSO PUBLISHED, UH, SO IT'S, IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, ALARMING THAT THE, THE, THE ONE BID THAT CAME BACK WAS FAR, FAR BEYOND WHAT, UH, THE ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE. SO I WONDER WHETHER THE ENGINEER NEEDS TO RE-ESTIMATE THIS OR NOT. UM, BUT, UH, I I, THAT WAS A JOKE. . UM, I DO SEE DOWNWARD, RIGHT? YEAH. OH, DOWNWARD. THAT WOULD BE GREAT. UM, NO, UM, UH, I DO WANT TO, I, I MEAN I ABSOLUTELY SEE THAT YOU, YOU KNOW, WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND TRYING TO GET THIS FIRST PLA CONTRACT TO WORK. UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, WE'RE GONNA GET ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY SOMETIME LATER. UH, BUT I DO, UH, THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO MOVE FORWARD THE WAY YOU HAVE DESCRIBED. UM, I HEARD OF MS. YA SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR EL TOON PARK. UM, AND THEN ESPECIALLY IF WE HAVE GRANT FUNDING THAT WE DON'T WANNA JEOPARDIZE, [03:00:01] IT IS, UH, HOPEFULLY THERE ARE, UH, YOU KNOW, CONTRACTORS OUT THERE THAT WILL BE WILLING TO DO THIS JOB. HOWEVER SMALL IT MAY BE, IT WILL MEAN A LOT TO THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY. THANK YOU. OKAY. UH, UNLESS THERE'S ANY OBJECTION, WE ACCEPT AND FILE. YES. RIGHT. THAT WILL BE, THE REPORT WILL BE ACCEPTED AND FILED. [12.2 Update on the Use of American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) Funds] NEXT WE GO ON TO 12.2. THIS IS AN UPDATE HERE ON THE USE OF THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT, OR WHAT WE CALL ARPA FUNDS. AND SO, ONCE AGAIN, YOU GUYS ARE ON THE HOT SEAT. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. MAYOR COUNCIL, UM, STAFF MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, STEVE GANELLE, DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING PUBLIC WORKS. UM, WE DID PREPARE A, A FAIRLY COMPREHENSIVE STAFF REPORT, AND THERE'S A LOT OF SLIDES IN THIS POWERPOINT, SO I WILL TRY TO GO THROUGH THEM EFFICIENTLY. BUT WE DID, WE DID BELIEVE THAT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO REALLY GO BACK TO HOW, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN THESE FUNDS CAME TO NATIONAL CITY, WHY THEY CAME TO NATIONAL CITY, WHAT THEIR INTENDED USES AND ALL THE ACTIONS THAT WERE TAKEN, YOU KNOW, GOING BACK TO 2021, UH, TO PRIORITIZE PROJECTS, GET COMMUNITY FEEDBACK, AND, AND THEN MOVE FORWARD WITH, WITH EXPENDING THESE FUNDS. SO, UM, AS WE GET STARTED, YOU KNOW, JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT OF 2021, UH, COMMONLY KNOWN AS ARPA. THIS WAS PART OF A $1.9 TRILLION FEDERAL ECONOMIC STIMULUS BILL. 350 BILLION WAS ALLOCATED TO STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, UH, IN RESPONSE TO, TO COVID, UH, TO HELP PROMOTE ECONOMIC GROWTH. NATIONAL CITY'S ALLOCATION, UM, WHICH WE'VE RECEIVED IN FULL IS $18 MILLION, ROUGHLY A COUPLE OF CRITICAL DATES TO NOTE, UM, THAT ALL THE FUNDS MUST BE OBLIGATED. IN THE CASE OF PROJECTS, THEY MUST BE CONTRACTED BY DECEMBER 31ST OF THIS YEAR, WHICH IS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER. AND THE MONIES HAVE TO BE SPENT BY THE END OF 2026. UH, THE BOTTOM HALF OF THE SLIDE SUMMARIZES, UH, THE ELIGIBLE USE OF FUNDING, WHICH NOTABLY DOES ALLOW LOCAL AGENCIES TO USE THESE ARPA FUNDS TO OFFSET LOSS OF REVENUES DUE TO THE PANDEMIC TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE GOVERNMENT SERVICES. UH, AS DIRECTED BY COUNCIL, UH, BACK IN 2021, UM, WE DID IMPLEMENT THE FOLLOWING PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT STRATEGIES. UH, THE PURPOSE WAS TO SOLICIT, UH, FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY TO HELP PRIORITIZE THE USE OF THESE FUNDS. ONE OF THE STRATEGIES WAS AN ONLINE SURVEY, WHICH RESULTED IN 14 PRIORITIES. YOU CAN SEE THE VOTES AND THE RANKING. UM, ONE OF THE COMMON, UM, TRENDS WE SAW THAT, THAT MOST OF THE PRIORITIES REVOLVED AROUND, UM, PARKS AND RECREATION, UH, FACILITIES AND PROJECTS AND QUALITY OF LIFE SERVICES. UM, ANOTHER OUTREACH METHOD WAS, WAS, UH, AN ELECTRONIC IDEA WALL, UH, WHICH WAS JUST AN OPPORTUNITY TO, FOR RESIDENTS TO, TO PUT SOME IDEAS OUT THERE. UM, WHAT WE DID FIND WAS THAT THERE WAS A VERY HIGH PERCENTAGE THAT, UH, EXPRESSED A NEED FOR, FOR RESTROOMS AT PARADISE CREEK EDUCATIONAL PARK, WHICH IS BEHIND, UH, KIMBALL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL ON 18TH STREET. UM, AS DETAILED IN THE STAFF REPORT, THERE WAS A SERIES OF COUNSEL ACTIONS THAT, UH, STARTED BACK IN OCTOBER, 2021, GOING ALL THE WAY THROUGH AUGUST OF 2022, WHICH EFFECTIVELY RESULTED IN APPROPRIATIONS FOR THE ENTIRE $18 MILLION. SO, WHERE ARE WE AT TODAY? UM, APPROXIMATELY $10 MILLION WAS ALLOCATED TOWARDS, UH, PROJECTS. UH, YOU CAN SEE THE, UH, THE, THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS THAT WERE ALLOCATED, AND THEN THE COLUMN NEXT TO THAT AND WHAT THE PROJECTED BALANCE WILL BE BY THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR, WHICH IS JUNE 30TH OF THIS YEAR. SO WE'RE PROJECTING THAT WE'LL, WE'LL ESSENTIALLY HAVE JUST OVER $5 MILLION AVAILABLE. UM, YOU'LL ALSO NOTICE THAT MOST OF THE PROJECTS HAVE BEEN, UH, COMPLETED OR ARE VERY FAR ALONG IN DESIGN, WHICH IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE AS WE MENTIONED, THESE FUNDS NEED TO BE, UM, OUT TO BID AND AWARDED, UM, FOR CONSTRUCTION BY [03:05:01] THE END OF THE YEAR. I DID HIGHLIGHT THE LAS PALM POOL BUILDING BECAUSE THE NEXT PORTION OF THE PRESENTATION IS GONNA FOCUS ON AN ALTERNATIVE ASSESSMENT THAT WAS RECENTLY COMPLETED. 'CAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT WERE EXPLORED FOR, UH, WHAT TO DO WITH THE EXISTING POOL BUILDING. UM, SO BEFORE I JUMP INTO THE POOL BUILDING, YOU SAW IN THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE BIG PROJECTS, MOST NOTABLE ONES THAT WAS COMPLETED, UH, PRIMARILY WITH ARPA FUNDS, WAS THE RENOVATION TO OUR, OUR MUNICIPAL POOL. UH, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL POOL. UH, IT'S IT'S OPEN YEAR ROUND. WE HAVE A LOT OF PROGRAMS AND WE'RE SERVICING, UM, ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF PEOPLE FROM OUR COMMUNITY. SO, UH, I WAS REALLY EXCITED TO SEE THAT PROJECT FINALLY GET, GET COMPLETED AS I KNOW YOU ARE AS WELL. AND SO, REALLY THE IDEA OF THE POOL BUILDING IS, IS CURRENTLY, THIS IS WHERE THE PROGRAMMING OFFICES ARE. THIS IS WHERE THE LOBBY IS WHERE PEOPLE CHECK IN TO SIGN UP FOR PROGRAMS AND REGISTER. AND IT'S ALSO WHERE, UH, RESIDENTS GO, UM, TO USE SHOWERS, UM, THE RESTROOMS, AND ALSO CHANGING FACILITIES. SO, AS PART OF THE ALTERNATIVES ASSESSMENT, UM, WE LOOKED AT FOUR OPTIONS. UM, ONE WAS TO REHABILITATE AND RETROFIT THE EXISTING FACILITY FOR CODE COMPLIANCE, UM, AND ALSO TO ADDRESS OUR CURRENT PROGRAMMING NEEDS. OPTION TWO IS WAS TO DEMOLISH THE EXISTING POOL, POOL HOUSE AND CONSTRUCT A, A NEW ONE, UH, MODERN ENERGY EFFICIENT IN THE SAME LOCATION. OPTION THREE, WHICH, UH, YOU SAW WAS, WAS ALREADY, UH, DESIGNED TO 95% WAS, UH, WE, WE TOOK A LOOK AT THAT PROJECT AND THE ESTIMATE FOR CONSTRUCTING A NEW POOL BUILDING ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE POOL, WHICH WAS COMMONLY REFERRED TO AS THE WELLNESS CENTER. AND THEN, UM, OPTION FOUR WAS, WAS AN OPTION THAT, THAT WE LOOKED AT MOST RECENTLY BECAUSE WE NEEDED AN OPTION THAT, THAT, THAT WOULD TRULY FIT WITHIN THE BUDGET. SO WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH EACH OF THOSE OPTIONS. UH, SO JUST FOR CONTEXT, THIS IS, UM, THE POOL AT LAS PALMAS PARK. AND, AND THE RED BOX IS THE EXISTING POOL BUILDING. UM, THIS BUILDING WAS BUILT IN 1956, SO IT'S GOING ON ALMOST SEVEN 70 YEARS OLD NOW. UH, IT'S WELL EXCEEDED. ITS ITS USEFUL LIFE. UH, IT'S APPROXIMATELY 9,300 SQUARE FEET. UM, PART OF THE ASSESSMENT WAS TO, TO PUT A NEW TEAM TOGETHER. WE HAD, UH, A TEAM FROM A COUPLE YEARS AGO THAT WORKED ON THE WELLNESS CENTER AND DESIGNING SOME OF THESE OTHER PROJECTS LIKE RESTROOMS AND SPLASH PADS. SO WE PUT A NEW TEAM TOGETHER OF ENGINEERS, ARCHITECTS, FORMER BUILDING INSPECTORS. UM, AND NOTABLY THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS TEAM, PARTICULARLY THE PRIME, UM, THEY, THEY HAVE MAJOR CONTRACTS WITH VARIOUS SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN THE COUNTY MANAGING THEIR BOND PROGRAMS. THESE ARE HUGE 2, 200, 200 $50 MILLION BOND PROGRAMS THAT REVOLVE AROUND, UM, MAJOR CAMPUS RENOVATIONS, NEW BUILDING CONSTRUCTION. SO THEY'RE VERY IN TUNE WITH COSTS AND WHAT'S INVOLVED WITH EITHER A MAJOR REHAB OR BUILDING A NEW PUBLIC FACILITY. SO, UM, WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO, TO, TO, UM, UTILIZE THIS TEAM, WHICH WE HAD, UH, THE PRIME UNDER OUR ON-CALL CONTRACT. SO FIRST THING WE DID WAS, WAS AN ASSESSMENT OF THE INSIDE AND OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING. THESE ARE JUST SOME PHOTOS, UH, SHOWING THE CONDITION OF THE OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING, AND THEN SOME OF THE CHALLENGES INSIDE. AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF PRIVACY. UH, WE HAVE AN OPEN ROOF. UM, YOU KNOW, EVEN THE OFFICES AND LOBBY ARE, ARE FAIRLY DATED. SO THIS IS JUST A SUMMARY OF SOME OF THE, THE EXISTING DEFICIENCIES. AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE NEED TO, FOR THIS OPTION. WHAT IS IT GONNA TAKE FOR, UH, TO GET THIS UP TO CODE? UM, WHAT WE WANTED TO DO IS HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE NOTABLE ITEMS OF WORK THAT, THAT DROVE THE COST TO BE AS HIGH AS THEY ARE. SO, AGAIN, ONE OF THE THINGS WE NEED TO LOOK AT, PARTICULARLY IF WE'RE GONNA PUT A NEW ROOF ON THIS TRUST, A TRUST STYLE STYLE ROOF, IS CAN THE EXTERIOR WALLS E EVEN SUPPORT IT? SO WE NEED, WE WOULD NEED TO DO TESTING, UM, FOR THE STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY OF, OF THE EXTERIOR WALLS. UM, THEN WE, WE WOULD NEED TO ACTUALLY DEMO THE EXISTING SLAB BECAUSE ALL THE, THE, THE UTIL [03:10:01] UTILITY SERVICE CONNECTIONS, THE HEATING SYSTEMS ALL NEED TO GET REDONE. SO THAT WOULD BE A FULL DEMO OF, OF THE SLAB AND MOST OF THE INTERIOR WALLS TO RECONFIGURE THE LAYOUT, UM, TO BETTER MEET THE OPERATIONAL NEEDS OF THE FACILITY, TO CREATE FAMILY CHANGING AREAS AND MORE PRIVACY. UM, I MENTIONED A LOT OF MECHANICAL ELECTRICAL UPGRADES AND NEW ROOF SYSTEM. UM, A LOT OF DET, WE, WE INCLUDED A DETAILED ESTIMATE IN, IN THE REPORT. UH, IT WAS ROUGHLY UPWARDS OF 13 MILLION DEPENDING, UH, AS A CONSERVATIVE APPROACH. UM, BUT THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF UNKNOWNS WITH THE MAJOR REHAB. UM, WHEN YOU START, UM, OPENING UP WALLS AND TEARING OUT STRUCTURES, THERE COULD BE HAZARDOUS MATERIALS. AND THEN ALSO UNDERSTANDING THE EXTENT OF THE UTILITY REPLACEMENTS. UH, WE DID WANNA DO A SIDE BY SIDE. UH, ON THE LEFT SIDE IS THE EXISTING FACILITY, THE LAYOUT. AND THEN ON THE RIGHT SIDE, THIS WOULD BE THE PROPOSAL TO RECONFIGURE AND UPGRADE TO MEET THE, THE, UM, ACCESSIBILITY REQUIREMENTS AND ALL ALTER THE PROGRAMMING NEEDS. OPTION TWO WAS TO DEMO THIS BUILDING AND BUILD A NEW MODERN BUILDING ON OF SIMILAR SIZE AND SCALE ON THE SAME SITE. UM, THERE'S ARE JUST A COUPLE OF KEY ELEMENTS OF DESIGN. UM, ONE THING TO NOTE IS THAT FOR, UM, PUBLIC FACILITIES BEING BUILT FOR PUBLIC AGENCIES, THE TYPICAL COST PER SQUARE FOOT FOR NEW BUILDING CONSTRUCTION RANGES BETWEEN 900 AND $1,200 A SQUARE FOOT, WHICH IS SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN PRIVATE SECTOR CONSTRUCTION. SO I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT, UH, WE DID HAVE THE TEAM VALUE ENGINEER THIS DOWN TO ABOUT $900 A SQUARE FOOT. WE STILL END UP HITTING ABOUT 13 MILLION. AGAIN, THIS IS JUST, UM, A COMPARISON OF EXISTING VERSUS PROPOSED FLOOR PLANS. AND BECAUSE OF THE WORK THAT WENT INTO THIS, AND I, AND I WILL GIVE, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS TEAM OF PROJECT PROFESSIONALS CORPORATION AND SOFT DE RUBINA'S, THE ARCHITECT, UM, BIG TIME KUDOS. UH, WE GAVE THEM 60 DAYS TO DO THIS ASSESSMENT OF, OF ALL, ALL THESE OPTIONS AND COME UP WITH SOME, SOME RENDERINGS AND A PRACTICAL DESIGN. AND THEY DID IT. AND SO WE, WE DID WANT TO SHOWCASE THIS BECAUSE THIS MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY WITH GRANT FUNDING LATER TO ACTUALLY BUILD SOMETHING, UH, REALLY NICE FOR THE COMMUNITY. SO THESE ARE JUST SOME RENDERINGS. I'M GONNA GO THROUGH 'EM RATHER QUICKLY. UM, YOU COULD SEE THAT THERE'S STILL A LOT OF OPEN AIR ELEMENTS SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO INVEST A TON OF MONEY ON, ON, UM, HEAT AND AIR CONTROLS, MAINLY JUST IN THE CENTRAL AREA OF THE LOBBY. UH, NEW ROOF SYSTEM, LOTS OF LIGHTING, LOTS OF AMENITIES, SEAT WALLS FOR PEOPLE TO GET SHADE AND WATCH THEIR KIDS, UH, USE THE POOL. SO ANYWAY, REALLY IMPRESSIVE OPTION THAT THEY PUT TOGETHER IN A VERY SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME. UH, OPTION THREE, AGAIN, THIS WAS THE OPTION THAT, UM, WAS, WAS, UH, PREVIOUSLY, PREVIOUSLY AUTHORIZED A COUPLE YEARS AGO, WHICH WAS A NEW WELLNESS CENTER ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE POOL. UH, AGAIN, IT WOULD ADDRESS THE, THE OPERATING NEEDS. UM, SLIGHTLY HIGHER COST PER SQUARE FOOT. UH, AGAIN, $14 MILLION IS THE ESTIMATE. UH, WE DID WANNA SHOW THIS LAYOUT BECAUSE AS YOU RECALL FROM THE TABLE, WE SHOWED THERE WERE OTHER PROJECTS THAT HAVE ADVANCED TO 95% DESIGN THAT WERE IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY. ONE WAS A SPLASH PAD THAT'S SHOWN IN RED HERE. IT SHOWS THAT IT WOULD, UM, BASICALLY GO RIGHT BEHIND THE KITTY POOL WITH SOME FENCING AND LANDSCAPING, ALSO PROVIDE SOME EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES, SHADE STRUCTURE. UM, SO WE DID WANNA SHOW THAT HERE. AND ALSO PUTS INTO CONTEXT WHERE THE NEW WELLNESS CENTER WOULD GO. AND THIS AGAIN, IS A, IS A RENDERING. SO IF YOU RECALL, UM, YOU KNOW, ESSENTIALLY THERE WAS ONLY, UM, FOUR AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS ALLOCATED IN ARPA FUNDS FOR A NEW FACILITY. AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER MILLION DOLLARS, UH, THROUGH A STATE GRANT. SO FIVE AND A HALF MILLION. YOU SEE WHERE THESE ESTIMATES ARE AT. THEY'RE DOUBLE THAT, RIGHT? SO WE TRY TO LOOK AT, OKAY, WELL, WHAT CAN WE DO TO, UM, PROVIDE, UM, SAFE, ACCESSIBLE AREAS FOR THE PUBLIC TO, TO USE THE RESTROOM. THE SHOWERS HAVE A, A, A [03:15:01] PRIVATE CHANGING AREAS THAT ARE STILL ACCESSIBLE TO THE BUILDING SO THAT THEY CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS BEAUTIFUL POOL THAT WAS BUILT. SO WE LOOKED AT ANOTHER OPTION THAT'S, UH, FITS WITHIN THE BUDGET THAT WOULD ESSENTIALLY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF, UH, THE FLAT, FLAT AREA ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE POOL TO PUT SOME TYPE OF MODULAR FACILITIES, UH, THAT COULD BE USED, UH, UPWARDS OF 10 YEARS IF, IF NECESSARY FOR, FOR THOSE TYPES OF, UM, CHANGING AND, AND SHOWERING IN RESTROOMS. UM, AGAIN, WE JUST DID SOME QUICK RESEARCH. WE WOULD DO A DEEPER DIVE IF THIS IS THE DIRECTION WE GO, BUT THESE CAN RANGE IN PRICE FROM 50,000 ALL THE WAY TO 500,000, DEPENDING ON WHAT WE WOULD END UP DOING. UM, SO ULTIMATELY, UH, AGAIN, THIS IS, UH, THE STATUS OF, OF THE ARPA FUNDED PROJECTS. AGAIN, WE HAVE JUST OVER 5 MILLION THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE. UM, AND WITH THAT, WE, WE DO WANT TO OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION. WE ARE SEEKING COUNCIL DIRECTION ON THESE PROJECTS. DO THEY, DO WE CONTINUE TO MOVE THEM FORWARD? WHAT OPTION FOR THE POOL BUILDING DO WE GO WITH? AND THEN ARE THERE OTHER PRIORITIES? SO TO HELP FACILITATE THE DISCUSSION, UM, WE DID PUT FORWARD A STAFF RECOMMENDATION THAT FITS WITHIN THE BUDGET. UM, NOTABLY FOR THE POOL BUILDING, WE'RE RECOMMENDING OPTION FOUR, WHICH, UH, IN ADDITION TO THESE MODULAR FACILITIES FOR RESTROOMS, SHOWERS, AND CHANGING AREAS, WE WANNA MAKE THE EXISTING BUILDING MORE WELCOMING. SO WE WANNA DO SOME ENHANCEMENTS TO THE ENTRANCE, THE LOBBY, THE OFF OFFICES. WE WANT TO PATCH AND PAINT, UH, THE ENTIRE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING. UH, WORK WITH, UM, OUR PARTNERS, A REASON TO SURVIVE TO DO SOME TYPE OF ART ELEMENTS, UH, SOME, SOME FENCING, SOME LANDSCAPING. WE, WE BELIEVE WE CAN, WE CAN DO THIS WITHIN THE TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLAR BUDGET. UH, IN ADDITION, WE'VE, WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE RESTROOMS, GETTING THOSE OUT TO BID. THEY'RE NET 95% DESIGN, THE SPLASH PAD, THE CHILDREN'S AREA. UM, WE ALSO HAVE RECEIVED, YOU KNOW, OVER THE YEARS, UM, A LOT OF REQUESTS TO, TO DO SOME ENHANCEMENTS TO THE LITTLE LEAGUE AND SOFTBALL FIELDS. AS YOU RECALL, ABOUT SEVEN, EIGHT YEARS AGO, THE CITY COUNCIL INVESTED IN NEW BALL FIELD LIGHTING. SO NOW WE WANT TO TAKE CARE OF THE FIELDS, TRY TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE DRAINAGE ISSUES THAT ARE GOING ON, ACCESSIBILITY ISSUES. UM, WE DID, UH, GO THROUGH AND INSPECT THE BALL FIELD LIGHTS AT KIMBALL PARK. THIS WAS ANOTHER PRIORITY ITEM THAT, THAT THE RESIDENTS VOTED ON. UH, UNFORTUNATELY THEY HAVE EXTENDED THEIR USEFUL LIFE. WE CAN'T JUST GO IN AND PUT IN NEW FIXTURES. WE HAVE TO PHYSICALLY REMOVE AND REPLACE THE, THE ENTIRE STRUCTURE. THAT'S WHY THAT'S SUCH A BIG PRICE TAG. UM, BUT WE DID GET A, AN ESTIMATE FROM, FROM, UH, ONE OF THE PREFERRED, UH, MANUFACTURERS. UM, IN ADDITION, WE DID SHOW THAT THERE WAS ARPA FUNDS PREVIOUSLY ALLOCATED FOR THE, THE RESTROOMS OF PARADISE CREEK PARK AND ALSO OUR HISTORIC PROPERTIES. UM, WE ARE NOT, UH, WE ARE RECOMMENDING REALLOCATING THOSE, THE ARPA FUNDS TO THESE OTHER PROJECTS. UH, FOR, FOR ONE PRIMARY REASON. ONE, UM, FOR THE RESTROOM PROJECT THAT IS TIED TO A LARGER GRANT FUNDED PROJECT, WHICH WE WILL NOT BE IN A POSITION TO AWARD A CONTRACT BY THE END OF THIS YEAR. WE'RE, WE'RE IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL, UM, COMPLIANCE PHASE OR OUR ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENT PHASE RIGHT NOW. WE STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH FINAL DESIGN, SO WE WOULD LOSE THOSE FUNDS. UH, WHAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING THOUGH, AS PART OF, UH, NEXT YEAR, CIP, WHICH WE'LL BE PRESENTING TO COUNCIL NEXT MONTH, PUTTING IN A GENERAL FUND ASK, SO THAT, THAT GETS INCLUDED WITH THAT PROJECT. AND WE CAN STILL DELIVER ON, UM, PREVIOUS COMMITMENTS MADE TO THE RESIDENTS. AS FAR AS THE, UH, OUR HISTORIC PROPERTIES. WE NEED TO DO A NEW FACILITIES NEEDS ASSESSMENT. UM, OUR FACILITIES MAINTENANCE STAFF, UH, DO UPKEEP ON THOSE PROJECTS. UH, WE'RE OFTEN ABLE TO GET A LOT OF WORK DONE WITH OUR OPERATING, OUR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATING BUDGETS. UM, SO BASED ON THAT FACILITY NEEDS ASSESSMENT, UM, IT MAY, IT MAY WARRANT SOME, UH, ADDITIONAL FUNDING REQUESTS, UM, AS PART OF THE CIP. THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT. UH, AT THIS POINT. THIS IS OUR RECOMMENDATION, AND WITH THAT, WE WILL, UH, OPEN IT UP TO COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC FOR, FOR QUESTIONS AND COMMENT. CITY MANAGER. THANK YOU. UH, THANK YOU, STEVE. I JUST WANTED TO REEMPHASIZE [03:20:01] TO THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL THAT, UM, THIS IS OUR RECOMMENDATION. UM, WE FEEL THAT, UH, WITH THE, THE, THE, THE PLANS AND THE DRAWINGS THAT YOU, YOU SAW HERE, UM, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO, UH, CHASE IN THE COMING YEARS, UH, UH, GRANT OPPORTUNITIES TO EVENTUALLY BUILD A NEW, UH, POOL BUILDING FACILITY. UM, SO, SO THIS, THIS RECOMMENDATION, UH, WILL ALLOW US TO CONTINUE TO OPERATE THE POOL. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, CHASE THAT, THAT, THAT GRANT OPPORTUNITY THAT I, I KNOW WE QUALIFY FOR THAT I KNOW WE'RE DESERVING OF, AND I KNOW EVENTUALLY WE, WE WILL FIND, UM, BUT THIS PUTS INTO ACTION A PLAN, UH, FINALLY TO SPEND THESE ARPA MONIES. I CAN'T UNDER, I CAN'T, UM, UNDER STATE HOW THIS IS, WE COULDN'T, I, I WOULD FEEL NERVOUS TO DELAY THIS ONE MEETING. UH, WE, WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD, UH, ON THE EXPENDITURE OF THIS ARPA FUNDS. UM, WE NEED TO HAVE THEM INTO CONTRACT BY THE END OF THE YEAR. UM, SURE, UH, THE TIMELINE COULD BE EXTENDED SUCH AS THE, IN THE OTHER GRANT, UM, WITH EL TO PARK, BUT WE CAN'T COUNT ON THAT. SO, UM, THIS IS OUR, OUR BEST RECOMMENDATION AND IS IT'S AN EXPENDITURE ON, ON PROJECTS THAT ARE, ARE BADLY NEEDED IN ALL THESE AREAS AND, UH, GETS THE JOB DONE. SO, UH, WE WOULD ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. THANK YOU. OKAY. RIGHT. YOU HAVE SOME SPEAKERS ON THIS, UH, LET'S YOU TAKE, WE HAVE, UH, SOMEONE I THINK ON ZOOM. YES, WE DO. JANICE RENOSO. JANICE RENOSO. CAN'T HEAR. JANICE RENOSO. HI. ARE YOU ABLE TO HEAR ME? YES. THERE WE GO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD EVENING. UM, I AM COMMENTING ON THE NEED FOR BATHROOMS AT THE PARADISE CREEK EDUCATIONAL PARK. UM, ANOTHER YEAR. WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN THERE A FEW YEARS ALREADY, AND IT IS WEEKLY THAT WE'RE HEARING FROM THE RESIDENTS, FROM FOLKS AT THE PARK, PEOPLE RUSHING IN. WHEN WE OPEN THE COMMUNITY GARDEN SPACE, WE'RE HAVING A PAY OUT OF OUR OWN BUDGET EVERY MONTH. UM, THE OPERATIONS FUNDINGS THAT IS COMING IN TO OPERATE THE COMMUNITY GARDEN IS GOING ABOUT $275 A MONTH IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN THAT OR TO HAVE THE PORTA POTTY A DA ACCESSIBLE. SO I CANNOT STRESS ENOUGH THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT. AND JUST REALLY LOOKING AT PRIORITIES IN THE COMMUNITY. UM, YOU KNOW, USING, UH, REALLY UNDERSTANDING WHAT STRUCTURAL OR INFRASTRUCTURAL RACISM LOOKS LIKE. UM, IT KEEPS RESIDENTS AWAY FROM THE PARK, WHETHER IT IS BECAUSE OF AGE, IF THEY'RE OLDER CITIZENS OR THE VERY YOUNG, OR ANY, ANY, YOU KNOW, OR THEY LIKE TO DRINK WATER, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO VISIT THE PARK. AND SO WE'RE SEEING THAT THIS IS A CONTINUOUS NEED. UM, WE HA I HAVE SHARED, UH, DOCUMENTATION OR LIKE PHOTOGRAPHS OF WHAT THESE, UM, READY TO INSTALL PRE-BUILT, NOT PORTA-POTTIES, BUT MORE LIKE, UH, BUNGALOW STYLE, VERY STURDY, ALMOST CONCRETE LIKE, UH, STRUCTURES CAN BE PUT ON THE PROPERTY WHERE IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE AT RISK FOR FLOODING AS IT WOULD BE IF IT WAS ON THE BOTTOM BUILDING. I WOULD LOVE TO SIT AND TALK WITH YOU ALL ABOUT THAT, AND REALLY SEEING THE NEED FIRSTHAND FROM THE COMMUNITY THERE AT THE PARADISE CREEK EDUCATIONAL PARK ON A WEEKLY BASIS. UM, THE OTHER THING IS, I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA TO SHARE THE, UM, TO, TO HAVE ART AT LOST PROMISE, REALLY REACH OUT TO THE OTHER ARTS ORGANIZATIONS. YOU GUYS ARE MISSING OUT ON A JEWEL WITH VISION CULTURE FOUNDATION. IT WOULD BE REALLY FAIR TO REACH OUT THOSE OPPORTUNITIES TO THE ART THERAPY, UH, NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE ALSO IN YOUR CITY THAT ARE PROVIDING FLOOD RELIEF AND WORKING WITH COMMUNITIES, PROVIDING WEEKLY, UH, ART THERAPY AND COUNSELING SESSIONS. SO, YOU KNOW, I KNOW ARTS HAS DONE A GREAT JOB, THANK YOU, HISTORICALLY, BUT YOU HAVE PEOPLE AVAILABLE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. UM, YOU ALSO HAVE, UH, EDDIE PEREZ, UH, MAYOR COMMITTEE MEMBERS, CITY STAFF AND RESIDENCE. I APOLOGIZE. I'M ON THIS, UH, SORT OF A AD HOC COMMITTEE. I SHOULDN'T KNOW. AD AD HOC, UH, BUT WITH THE, UH, UH, PARADISE CREEK EDUCATIONAL PARK, MUNDO GARDENS. [03:25:01] AND, UH, I ATTEND MEETINGS MONTHLY THERE WITH THE RESIDENTS IN REGARDS TO SUPPORTING THE, UH, THE EFFORTS OF, UH, UH, MUNDO GARDENS THERE AND THE PARADISE CREEK. UH, AND I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN NOW FOR A COUPLE YEARS, AND THE REQUEST AND THE NEED FOR THOSE BATHROOMS IS, UH, PARAMOUNT. AND I DO UNDERSTAND, UM, UH, THE SITUATION OF NOT WANTING TO LOSE THOSE FUNDS. SO YOU USE THEM FOR SOMETHING ELSE, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT CAN BE DONE. IT'S JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, GOING TO ANOTHER YEAR, UH, AGAIN, IT'S THE WEST SIDE, UH, NORTH, IT'S UNINTENTIONAL, BUT IT JUST, IT'S AGAIN, THE WEST SIDE, YOU KNOW, SORT OF BEING LEFT OUT AND, AND YOUR TIME WILL COME NEXT TIME. AND SO, UH, I, I KNOW IT'S A DIFFICULT DECISION, BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE, UM, SOME WAY TO SEE WHAT COULD BE DONE. UH, THEY'VE BEEN STRESSING THIS, UH, GOT A BIG POPULATION AT THE APARTMENT COMPLEX, UH, APARTMENT, THE PARISH APARTMENTS, AS WELL AS THE RESIDENTS RIGHT THERE IN OLD TOWN, UM, WHO WOULD TAKE, I THINK, MORE ADVANTAGE OF THE BEAUTY THEY HAVE THERE IN THEIR OWN BACKYARD. BUT UNFORTUNATELY, THE BATHROOMS HINDER A LOT OF ACTIVITY OVER THERE. UM, AND I KNOW IT'S, THERE'S SOME OTHER COMPLICATIONS IN REGARDS TO, UH, SECURITY, ET CETERA. BUT, UM, I JUST, YOU GUYS GOT THE CREATIVE MINDS IN SOME OF THE STAFF. SO ANYTHING YOU COULD DO TO TRY TO, UH, ENSURE THAT THE RESIDENTS, UH, REQUEST FOR, UH, SOME ACCOMMODATIONS FOR, FOR RESTROOMS, UH, SOME IDEA WOULD BE APPRECIATED. OKAY, EDDIE. BUT DID YOU HEAR THE EXPLANATION THAT THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO ALLOCATE THAT, UH, THOSE FUNDS BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR BECAUSE OF DESIGN, BUT BY PUTTING IT IN OUR BUDGET, WHICH WOULD BE FOR THIS NEXT YEAR, UM, THEN AS SOON AS IT IS READY, WE WOULD, IT WOULD MOVE WITH THE EXACT SAME SPEED. OKAY. WELL, UM, I UNDERSTAND IT BETTER NOW THAT YOU EXPLAINED IT. YEAH. UH, SO, UH, YEAH, AGAIN, JUST THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT. RIGHT? I KNOW STAFF DO THE BEST THEY CAN, SO, RIGHT. YEAH. AND, AND OF COURSE, THERE'S THE DIFFICULTY WITH WHETHER IF IT'S UP TOWARD THE TOP OF THE HILL OR DOWN BELOW, DOWN BELOW, YOU GOT THE POSSIBLE FLOODING ISSUE. MM-HMM. UP ABOVE, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT WHEN WE FIRST LOOKED AT THIS, UH, QUITE SOME TIME BEFORE THE, BEFORE THE PARK WENT IN, BUT WE WERE DESIGNING THE PARK, THERE'S NO SEWER SERVICE INTO THAT AREA UP THERE. AND AT THAT POINT, IT WAS GONNA COST WELL OVER A MILLION DOLLARS JUST TO RUN THE SEWER LINE BEFORE WE EVEN BUILT THE BATHROOMS. MM-HMM. . YEAH. AND SO, YEAH, SO IT, I UNDERSTAND IT, IT, IT'S A WHOLE LOT OF THINGS GO INTO THAT ONE. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, WE HAVE, UH, EDWARD NETTEL. UM, I'M GLAD YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS STAR OFFENSE, ANOTHER SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE A LOT OF NEEDS AND NOT ENOUGH MONEY, AND WE'RE HAVING TO, WE ARE GONNA HAVE TO FORCE OURSELVES TO PRIORITIZE THIS, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S DISAPPOINTING AGAIN, TO HEAR US TALK ABOUT THE SLUSH FUND, YOU KNOW, AND FOREGO THESE OPPORTUNITIES TO PUT IN MONEY THAT WE COULD, WHERE WE COULD SATISFY THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY. JUST BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE POLITICAL, UH, AMBITIONS AND, AND PRIORITIES THAT ARE OTHER THAN THE COMMUNITY'S, UH, BEST INTEREST. I JUST WANNA SAY THAT. AND, UH, RANDY CASTLE, SALGADO MAYOR, VICE MAYORS, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS, CITY STAFF, UM, YOU'VE ALL DONE SUCH AN EXCEPT EXCEPTIONAL JOB AT, UM, THOROUGHLY GOING THROUGH AND, AND LOOKING AT EVERY DIFFERENT OPTION. UM, IT IS DISAPPOINTING THAT WE DID NOT ALLOCATE A LOT OF THESE FUNDS ORIGINALLY TO THE LAS PALM POOL. UM, L LOMA VERDE DOWN IN 9 1 9 1 1, UM, HAD A BIG OPENING IN 2023, BIG REMODEL PARKWAY POOL AND REMODELED THEIR POOL IN 20 20 17. UM, THEIR FACILITIES THERE, OUR CHILDREN, UH, USED THESE FACILITIES. UM, ANYBODY WITH A DRONE COULD GO OVER AND SNAP PICTURES OF OUR CHILDREN THERE. UM, MY SON PERSONALLY USES THEM. MY HUSBAND'S USED IT WHEN HE WAS A KID. UM, AND, YOU KNOW, ALL OF MY SON'S COUSINS. SO, UM, I STRONGLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK AT THE PARKWAY POOL AND, UM, GIVE THE COMMUNITY SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN BE PROUD OF FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS. THANK YOU. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UH, THAT'S ALL THE SPEAKERS THAT WE HAVE ON THIS. AND IF YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP. YES, YES. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS VERY INFORMATIVE REPORT. I THINK, UM, I, I HAVE HEARD FROM SEVERAL MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITIES COMMEND THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY UNDERSTAND THE, THE SITUATION WITH THE ARPA FUNDING AND, AND WHAT, UM, UH, [03:30:01] WHAT HAS BEEN ACCOMPLISHED TO DATE AND WHAT IS YET TO BE DONE. SO I ABSOLUTELY APPRECIATE ALL OF THIS INFORMATION. UM, UH, I DO, I AM IN FAVOR OF STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. UM, THIS IS THE RENDERING, IT'S OPTION FOUR IN THE, UM, BOTH THE SLIDE PRESENTATION AND THEN THE, UH, POWER OR THE, UM, STAFF REPORT. UM, AND, AND, BUT THIS WAS NOT MY FIRST CHOICE. IT WAS ONLY AFTER SPEAKING WITH STAFF THIS AFTERNOON AND UNDERSTANDING THE NEED, UM, FOR THE CONTINUATION OF, UM, THE POOL, YOU KNOW, THE USE OF THE POOL. AND, AND, UM, THE THING THAT SOLD ME ON, UM, GOING WITH OPTION FOUR AND THESE PREFABRICATED, YOU KNOW, BATHROOM UNITS, UM, IS THAT IT WOULD PREVENT ANY TYPE OF CLOSURE OF THE POOL. AND I THINK THAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS WE WOULDN'T WANT TO, UM, YOU KNOW, HAVE TO CLOSE THE POOL BECAUSE EITHER WE HAVE TO DEMOLISH A BUILDING OR, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOTHING, ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR FOLKS TO UTILIZE IN ORDER TO GET, UM, READY TO GO INTO THE POOL. SO, SO THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS. UM, UH, I AM IN FAVOR OF OPTION FOUR. OF COURSE, THE COST IS BIG AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IT IS WITHIN THE BUDGET OF WHAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE, SO THAT'S HELPFUL TOO. UH, THE, UM, MY QUESTION ON THAT HAD TO DO WITH, SO IF WE DO GO WITH OPTION FOUR, IS THERE ANY NEED FOR ANY DE UH, DEMO WORK ON THE, ON THE CRUMBLING BUILDING? SO ON THE, THE EAST SIDE, YOU DO HAVE, UM, A FEW CONCRETE PADS. ONE HAS THE SNACK SHACK, ONE HAS A SHADE STRUCTURE WITH SOME MATERIAL STORAGE. UM, WE DID CONFIRM THAT'S ALL OLD MATERIAL THAT CAN GO AWAY. UM, WHAT WE'RE GONNA TRY TO DO IS, IS CONTAIN IT NORTH OF THE SNACK SHACK, SO WE CAN PRESERVE THAT FOR FUTURE USE. BUT WE'RE BASICALLY LOOKING AT, UM, THE, THE GRASS AREA TO THE NORTH OF THE SNACK SHACK, WHERE WE HAVE SOME OLD BLEACHERS PUTTING IN NEW CONCRETE PADS AND GIVING US PLENTY OF SPACE TO CITE THESE FACILITIES. THAT IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE ADJACENT CONCRETE PAD TO THE NORTH, UM, THAT HAS THE SHADE, THE OLD SHADE STRUCTURE. AND, UM, MATERIAL STORAGE SHOULD GIVE US ENOUGH ROOM TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE, THE, THE POOL OPERATIONS FOR, UM, FOR RESIDENTS AND FAMILIES FOR THEIR, THEY'RE CHANGING THEIR SHOWERS, THEIR RESTROOMS. SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE TARGETING. SO IT'S JUST REALLY SOME, SOME SITE PREP ON A FAIRLY LEVEL, WELL GRADED SPOT, UM, THAT WOULD THEN CONNECT DIRECTLY THROUGH THE EXISTING GATES, UM, TO THE POOL. MM-HMM. . UM, SO IT'S, IT'S GOOD PROXIMITY. UH, WE'D ALSO BE PUTTING, UH, ADDITIONAL FENCING AROUND THESE FACILITIES TO PREVENT VANDALISM OR DISCOURAGED, MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR VANDALISM. UM, IN ADDITION, AS YOU SAW WITH THE RECOMMENDATION, JUST ADJACENT TO THAT, AND NEXT TO THE KITTY POOL WOULD BE THE SPLASH PAD. SO WE'D HAVE ALL THIS INTERCONNECTED ON THE EAST SIDE. MM-HMM. OF THE POOL. OKAY. CONCERNING THE SPLASH PAD, IS THAT ALSO GOING TO BE FENCED TOWARDS THE POOL SIDE? SO FOLKS THAT ARE NOT COMING TO THE POOL, BUT THEY'RE JUST AT LAS PALMAS PARK, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO THE SPLASH PAD? CORRECT. THE CURRENT DESIGN WOULD ALLOW THE GENERAL PUBLIC FREE ACCESS TO THE SPLASH PAD, SO THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO CHECK IN AT THE POOL AND GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS. THERE'D BE GATES TO PROVIDE OPTIONS AND FLEXIBILITY FOR THE CITY FOR OPERATIONS. BUT THE WAY IT WOULD BE SET UP IS IT WOULD HAVE ITS OWN FENCING. OKAY. IT'D BE OPEN DURING, YOU KNOW, DAYTIME HOURS. SO ANYONE THAT'S ENJOYING THE PARK AND HAS KIDS COULD GO AND USE THE SPLASH PAD AND NOT HAVE TO TRAVERSE THROUGH THE POOL. MM-HMM. GOOD. I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT. UH, THAT'S, THAT'S KEY. UM, THAT'S, THAT'S FANTASTIC. UM, SO MY, UH, CHOICE WOULD HAVE BEEN OPTION TWO. UM, THE RENDERING, YOU'RE, YOU'RE RIGHT. YOU KNOW, IT, IT LOOKS BEAUTIFUL. UH, I THINK IT IS, YOU KNOW, IF, IF WE'RE INSISTING ON USING THE ONE BUILDING THAT'S THERE, UM, OR THE SPACE THERE VERSUS THE ONE OPTION WE HAD A YEAR AGO, WHICH WAS THE WELLNESS CENTER, UM, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO JUST BEGIN A BEGIN NEW RIGHT? IT, IT'S COST THE SAME TO EITHER RETROFIT WHAT'S THERE OR TO DEMOLISH IT AND BEGIN NEW AND HAVE THIS OPTION TWO AS, AS THE, THE, UH, VISION. SO, UM, I WOULD BE IN SUPPORT OF THAT. UM, AND I THINK I UNDERSTOOD FROM OUR BRIEFING THAT IF WE GO WITH OPTION THREE, WHICH IS THE PREFABRICATED TRAILERS, UM, AND THEN LOOK FOR FUNDING FOR A PERMANENT BUILDING, UM, THAT COULD POTENTIALLY LOOK LIKE OPTION TWO. UH, I THINK THAT THAT SEEMS LIKE A WORTHWHILE PLAN. UM, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE LIMITATIONS THAT WE HAVE FOR THIS ARPA MONEY, THE FACT THAT IT HAS TO BE ALLOCATED [03:35:01] AND, AND CONTRACTED BEFORE THE END OF THIS YEAR, AND THEN USED WITHIN THE NEXT TWO YEARS, UH, IF THERE IS NO EXTENSION TO, TO THE PROGRAM. UM, JUST A COUPLE MORE THINGS THAT I DO WANNA SAY, BASED ON THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. UM, I ABSOLUTELY AGREE ON THE CONDITION OF THE LAS PALMAS PARK BALL FIELDS. MY KIDS PLAYED LITTLE, UH, LITTLE LEAGUE, UH, T-BALL IN THAT MARSH, AND THAT WAS THE SPLASH PAD. THAT WAS THE SPLASH PAD. CLEANING THOSE SOCKS AND CLEATS EVERY WEEKEND WAS, OH MY GOODNESS, I, SO YES, WE NEED TO FIX THAT. SO I'M GLAD THAT THAT'S IN HERE. I ABSOLUTELY, UM, AGREE THAT THAT'S A BIG NECESSITY. AND THEN FINALLY, THE PARADISE CREEK EDUCATION PARK RESTROOMS, UH, I AGREE WITH THE COMMUNITY. AND THEN EVEN FROM BEFORE, I THINK THE OPENING OF THE PARK, IT, IT, IT WAS, THERE WAS AN, UH, UPROAR. WHY ARE THERE NO PUBLIC PARK, UH, RESTROOMS IN THIS PARK, YOU KNOW? NOW WE HAVE HEARD THE, THE, THE, THE CHALLENGES THERE IS THE PLUMBING AND THE SEWER AND THIS AND THAT. UM, AND SO I'M GLAD TO KNOW THAT THERE ARE PLANS TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. UM, ONE OF THE COMMENTS THAT WE GOT FROM THE PUBLIC WAS, OKAY, WELL, LET'S NOT TAKE THIS OFF OF, YOU KNOW, THIS LIST FOR ARPA FUNDING. UM, BUT I DO SEE THAT THE REC RECOMMENDATION IS IN FACT, TO FUND IT NOT THROUGH THE ARPA MONEY AS INITIALLY, UM, UH, PROPOSED, BUT ACTUALLY FUND IT, YOU KNOW, BY OUR NEXT BUDGET PERIOD, WHICH BEGINS IN JULY. SO, UH, I, I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR WHETHER WE LEAVE IT AS WAS PROPOSED A YEAR AGO, YOU KNOW, THE, THE SOME ALLOCATION FROM ARPA FUNDS IN ORDER TO GET THE EDUCATIONAL PAR OR THE PARADISE CREEK PARK RESTROOMS STARTED THAT PROJECT, UM, ISN'T AFFECTED. OR THE TIMELINE OF THAT DOESN'T AFFECT WHETHER THE MONEY COMES FROM THE ARPA FUNDS AS ORIGINALLY PLANNED, OR WHETHER WE MOVE IT TO THE FISCAL YEAR 25 CIP, THE IT. IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE, WE'RE DELAYING THIS. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. I THINK IT, YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT. AND I THINK THE MAYOR TOUCHED ON THIS AS WELL IN ADDRESSING ONE OF THE, UH, PUBLIC SPEAKERS. THE TIMELINE FOR THAT PROJECT IS SET, WHETHER IT'S FUNDED WITH ARPA FUNDS OR GENERAL FUND. MM-HMM. , UH, WE'RE MOVING FORWARD. AND, AND I DO WANNA TAKE A FEW MINUTES TO LET OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR JUST HIGHLIGHT WHAT, WHAT THE PLAN IS FOR THE RESTROOMS. 'CAUSE I KNOW IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. WE'VE HAD A LOT OF, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, DISCUSSION ON IT TONIGHT. SO IF WE CAN GIVE HER A FEW MINUTES, SHE'LL, SHE'LL DISCUSS, UH, WHERE IT'S GOING AND WHAT'S INVOLVED WITH, WITH THE RESTROOM AT PARADISE CREEK PARK. THANK YOU. YES. UH, MY PLEASURE TO SPEAK A COUPLE MINUTES ON THAT. SO, UH, WE ARE ACTUALLY VERY CLOSE TO 90% DESIGN ON THE PARADISE CREEK WETLAND EXPANSION PROJECT, WHICH IS FUNDED THROUGH A DIFFERENT GRANT, UH, THE OCEAN PROTECTION COUNCIL. AND, UH, THERE, THE INTENTION IS ACTUALLY, UH, THE CITY HAS PURCHASED WITH A DIFFERENT GRANT, UH, THE OLD WELDING SHOP THAT'S, UH, JUST ACROSS FROM KIMBALL ELEMENTARY ON 18TH STREET. AND SO, UH, THE INTENTION IS TO DEMOLISH THAT OLD WELDING SHOP BUILDING. AND SINCE THERE WAS A BUILD OUT INSIDE THERE WITH, UH, LITTLE SMALL BUSINESS OFFICE AND RESTROOMS AND SO ON, THE INTENTION IS TO ACTUALLY USE THAT BECAUSE THERE'S UTILITY CONNECTION RIGHT ON 18TH STREET FOR SEWER WATER, YOU KNOW, ELECTRICAL, UH, ACCESS. AND SO IN THAT AREA, AFTER THAT BUILDING IS DEMOED, UH, WE WILL BE BUILDING UP A SPACE, AND THE INTENTION IS TO INSTALL A MODULAR TYPE OF RESTROOM THAT WILL BE ACCESSIBLE TO ALL WHO USE THE PARK THERE. AND OTHER ASPECTS OF THE, OF THE SCOPE FOR THAT PROJECT INCLUDE, AS THE NAME SUGGESTS, EXPANDING THE WETLAND. SO WE'RE DOING A LOT OF HABITAT RESTORATION, UM, DEMO OF THAT OLD, YOU KNOW, BROWNFIELD REALLY. UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, INCREASING THE, THE NATURAL HABITAT IN THAT AREA AND ADDING THAT RESTROOM. SO THE HOLDUP IS NOT THE DESIGN. UM, THE HOLDUP IS THAT IT'S A, YOU KNOW, IT'S A PROJECT THAT REQUIRES US TO GO THROUGH SE QA PROCESS. AND SO WE'RE VERY CLOSE TO REALLY SEEING THE REPORT FOR PUBLIC REVIEW, UH, FOR, FOR CQA FOR AN, UM, UH, AN ISM AND D. SO, UM, WE ARE, UM, ONCE THAT GOES THROUGH PUBLIC REVIEW AND ACCEPTANCE, THEN WE BEGIN THE PERMITTING PROCESS, WHICH ALSO INVOLVES MULTIPLE AGENCIES. MM-HMM, , RIGHT. REGIONAL WATER QUALITY CONTROL BOARD, FISH AND GAME, ET CETERA. SO IT'S NOT THAT THE RESTROOM ITSELF IS, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, A CHALLENGING ASPECT OF THE PROJECT, IT'S THAT IT'S PART OF THIS BIGGER PROJECT THAT HAS A LOT OF AGENCY INVOLVEMENT. SO WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT, [03:40:01] AND THERE IS A CHANCE THAT WE COULD BE READY TO BID THE PROJECT BY DECEMBER, BUT THERE IS A RISK BECAUSE OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL AND PERMITTING PROCESS. SO IT WOULD BE SAFER TO ALLOCATE THE ARPA FUNDS TO PROJECTS THAT CAN BE MORE, UM, MM-HMM. SECURELY , UH, BID OUT AND, AND ALLOCATED BY DECEMBER THAN THAT PROJECT. MM-HMM. . OKAY. UH, THANK YOU. I, I THINK IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU TO STAFF FOR THE, UM, ALTERNATE SOLUTION HERE. RIGHT. YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, UM, IT CONTINUES TO BE VERY VIABLE AND ON TRACK. UM, AND I'M SURE YOU'VE HEARD THE RESIDENTS, OF COURSE, UH, ANYTHING THAT CAN BE DONE TO EXPEDITE, UH, BUILDING A RESTROOM, THERE WOULD BE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, MY ASK, UH, BUT I DO UNDERSTAND, OF COURSE, THIS WHOLE REGION IS, IT'S A SENSITIVE REGION. IT, THERE'S A HABITAT THERE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, AND THERE ARE, LIKE YOU SAID, MARTA, UH, ALL OF THESE ENTITIES THAT DO HAVE TO, UH, YOU KNOW, CHECK OFF AND SAY, YEAH, YOU'RE GOOD TO GO. SO, UM, I DO APPRECIATE THAT. I, I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS. I JUST WANT TO, UH, REITERATE THE FACT THAT I AM IN FAVOR OF STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. AND I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER VERY CLEARLY. UM, IT'S A CHALLENGE TO EVEN IMAGINE, YOU KNOW, FIVE, $5 MILLION, OH, COOL. WE CAN DO ALL OF THIS WITH $5 MILLION. THE WAY THAT YOU HAVE STRUCTURED IT HERE, I THINK IS THE MOST EFFICIENT, THE MOST INTELLIGENT WAY TO USE THIS MONEY IN THE TIME THAT WE HAVE. AND I APPRECIATE ALL OF THAT WORK. THANK YOU. REMEMBER ANI, UH, MR. MAYOR? I WAS GIVEN A DIFFERENT BRIEFING, OR I'M JUST CONFUSED 'CAUSE IT'S ALMOST TWO O'CLOCK HERE, . UM, THE BRIEFING THAT I GOT, ONLY ONE O'CLOCK THERE I RECEIVED, IS THAT THE 6.3 5, 3 50 IS GOING TO LAS PALMAS WITH DIFFERENT MENU? IS THAT, DID THAT CHANGE? CITY, CITY, I MEAN, I'M IN A CITY ENGINEER. I, I DON'T KNOW, I JUST GOT CONFUSED WITH, WITH WHERE ARE WE GONNA PUT IT? ARE WE STILL PUTTING IT WITH THE LAS PALM WITH THE, UH, WITH THE, WITH THE, UH, MENU THAT YOU HAD PROVIDED? OR IS IT GONNA BE REALLOCATED SOMEWHERE ELSE? UH, YES. VICE MAYORS IS, UM, STEVE MANGANELLI, DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING PUBLIC WORKS. YES. THE, UH, THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE FUNDS WILL STAY IN LAS PALMAS PARK. THE, THE ONE PROJECT THAT HAS A SIGNIFICANT NEED THAT WAS HIGHLY PRIORITIZED BY THE COMMUNITY IS REPLACING THE BALL FIELD LIGHTS AT KIMBALL PARK. RIGHT. SO 1.2 MILLION WOULD GO TO THAT PROJECT. UM, THE REMAINING, UM, ESSENTIALLY 4 MILLION WOULD GO TO LAS PALMAS PARK IMPROVEMENTS IN ADDITION TO THE $1 MILLION STATE GRANT WOULD GO TO LAS PALM PARK IMPROVEMENTS. SO, UH, JUST OVER $5 MILLION WOULD GO TO LAS PALMAS PARK. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. OKAY. UM, OH, MEMBER RODRIGUEZ. THANK YOU, MS. MAYOR. UM, I'M REALLY GLAD THAT WE'RE AS, UM, UH, AS CRAZY AS THIS SOUNDS. I'M REALLY GLAD THAT WE ARE TALKING THIS THROUGH. I KNOW THAT WE STARTED THE DISCUSSIONS FOR ARPA FUNDING THREE YEARS AGO. UM, AND I KNOW WE HAVEN'T FULLY ALLOCATED THE FUNDS YET, BUT I DO THINK THAT'S A REALLY, UM, PRUDENT WAY OF DOING THINGS. UH, I REALLY WANT TO COMMEND THE EFFORT THAT, UM, UH, VICE MAYOR YAMANI AND COUNCIL MEMBER BUSH DID LAST YEAR, UH, TO, UH, POSTPONE THE SPENDING OF THE $14 MILLION ON ONE BUILDING, WHICH SEEMED EXCESSIVE, UM, EVEN IN 2021. AND IT SEEMS EXCESSIVE NOW. WITHOUT IT, WE WOULD NOT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO MANY OTHER THINGS, INCLUDING THE SPLASH PAD, THE RESTROOMS, LAS PALMAS, THE ADDITIONAL LIGHTS. UM, SO I THINK OPTION NUMBER FOUR IS A VERY PRUDENT WAY TO GO. AND I JUST REALLY WANT TO COMMEND THE EFFORTS OF STAFF IN DOING THEIR DUE DILIGENCE TO MOVE THIS FORWARD. AND OF, UH, OF MY COLLEAGUES. YOU KNOW, MANY OF US DID TAKE A LOT OF HEAT LAST YEAR FOR THIS PUBLICLY, AND WE WERE CALLED ALL KINDS OF NAMES ON SOCIAL MEDIA, BUT LOOK, IT'S NOT GOOD TO SPEND MONEY WE DON'T HAVE. AND, UH, I'M GLAD THAT WE DIDN'T ALLOCATE $14 MILLION IN A BUILDING WHERE CLEARLY WE DIDN'T HAVE IT. SO, UM, SO I'M, I'M, I THINK IT WAS A VERY PRUDENT DECISION. I'M VERY MUCH LOOKING FORWARD TO MOVING FORWARD WITH OPTION NUMBER FOUR. THANK YOU. OKAY. MEMBER BUSH. YES, THANK YOU. AND, UH, I AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER ROD, UH, ALL MY COLLEAGUE COLLEAGUES ON THIS. UM, SO I, I SUPPORT OPTION FOUR AND THANK YOU STAFF FOR ALL YOUR WORK ON THIS. UM, SO AGREE WITH EVERYTHING EVERYONE SAID. UM, I'LL JUST CUT TO THE CHASE ABOUT THE BATHROOMS THAT, UM, UH, NOT KIMBALL. OH MY GOODNESS. IT IS LATE. UM, PARADISE CREEK. THANK YOU. UM, I, I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. UM, I, MY QUESTION TO STAFF, COULD [03:45:01] WE, BECAUSE I, I SEE THERE'S THIS, UM, OPTION, UM, IN OPTION FOUR, IT'S KIND OF THESE PORTABLE BATHROOMS THERE. SO COULD WE USE THAT SAME TYPE OF PORTABLE BATHROOMS, UM, THAT WHERE YOU, WHICH WAS, IS A, IS A NEW CONCEPT, IS A NEW PROJECT. UM, SO COULD WE JUST REPLICATE THAT AND THEN FIND A LOCATION FOR IT AT PARADISE CREEK? BECAUSE IT'S BEEN YEARS THAT THEY HAVEN'T HAD CONSISTENT ACCESS, UM, AS, UM, YOU KNOW, JANICE FROM UNO GARDEN SAID, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT THERE'S, THERE'S I THINK SOME PORTA-POTTIES THERE, BUT IT'S NOT FULLY ACCESSIBLE. I THINK SHE'S PAYING FOR THE OPERATION OF THOSE. SO, BUT WE REALLY NEED TO HAVE BATHROOMS. IT'S A, IT'S A PUBLIC SAFETY, IT'S A HEALTH ISSUE. UM, EVEN IF THEY'RE PORTA-POTTIES, THAT'S BETTER THAN NOTHING. 'CAUSE THEY, THERE'S CLOSE TO NOTHING THERE. UM, SO COULD WE, UM, UNTIL THIS, UH, NEW, YOU KNOW, FACILITY IS BEING BUILT, WHICH THAT'S GONNA TAKE A COUPLE YEARS TO DEMO FOR THE QUA ANALYSIS TO BE DONE FOR THE, THE DEMO. UM, AND FOR THE INSTALLATION OF THE, OF THE NEW BUILDING AT THE FORMER, UM, THE, THE FORMER INDUSTRIAL BUILDING THERE COULD, COULD WE JUST REPLICATE WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING FOR OPTION FOUR, UM, AND PUT THAT, UH, AT PARADISE CREEK AND I'LL, I'LL LET MARTHA CHIME IN AS WELL. , BUT AS THE COUNCIL, YOU, YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT YOUR BUDGET AND DIRECT ACCORDINGLY. SO IT, YOU KNOW, IF IF THE DIRECTION WAS PURCHASE A PORTA POTTY, THERE'S STILL A MAINTENANCE COST TO THAT. YEAH, SURE. AND THOSE ARE THINGS WE NEED TO CONSIDER. WE COULD POTENTIALLY BUY ONE OF THESE TRAILERS FOR A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, BUT THAT, AGAIN, WOULD BE A HUNDRED THOUSAND LESS FOR THESE OTHER PROJECTS, WHICH WE, WE KNOW WE'RE ON A TIGHT BUDGET FOR. AND THERE'S STILL, WITH THE TRAILER OPTIONS, UM, WITHOUT PERMANENT UTILITY CONNECTIONS, THERE'S, THERE'S MAINTENANCE. WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO IN WITH OUR VECTOR TRUCK AND, AND FLUSH OUT THE WASTE. AND, UM, CAN YOU DO IT? YES, YOU COULD ABSOLUTELY DO IT. UM, MY ONLY CONCERN IS WE HAVE VERY LIMITED BUDGET LEFT FOR THESE OTHER HIGH PRIORITY PROJECTS THAT ARE IN A POSITION TO GET BUILT BY THE DEADLINE. AND ANY DIVERSION OF THESE FUNDS TO ANYTHING ELSE MAKES IT THAT, THAT MUCH MORE CHALLENGING. NOT TO MENTION THE, THE MAINTENANCE, UM, AND OPERATION IMPACTS ON OUR, ON OUR STAFF. THANK YOU. UH, CITY ENGINEER. UH, SO I UNDERSTAND THAT AND I DON'T WANT TO OH, YES. SORRY, I, I JUST WANNA CLARIFY THE TIMELINE. SO THE PROJECT WILL MOVE VERY, VERY QUICKLY, AND THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE IS EXPECTED TO BE SHORT ONCE WE ACTUALLY AWARD. SO AT THIS POINT, WE ACTUALLY WOULD EXPECT THAT CONSTRUCTION COULD START AS EARLY AS JANUARY AND BE DONE BY JUNE. THE GRANT HAS OF 2025. YES. THE GRANT HAS A VERY SHORT DEADLINE AS WELL. SO WE HAVE TO BE DONE. AND THIS IS FOR THE BATHROOMS AT PARADISE CREEK? YES, IT'S FOR, OH, GREAT. IT'S FOR THE WETLAND EXPANSION PROJECT, AND THEN THE RESTROOM WOULD BE BUILT AS PART OF THAT CONTRACT. OKAY. THAT MAKES ME FEEL BETTER. MM-HMM. . UM, AND THEN I THINK SEPARATELY, I STILL WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT, I UNDERSTAND, UM, UH, CITY ENGINEER THAT IT'S A, UM, THE MAINTENANCE ISSUE. UM, AND THERE'S GONNA BE SOME COSTS TO THAT. UM, LIKE FOR ME, I FEEL LIKE THAT'S WORTH THE COST FOR THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND THE SAFETY ISSUE AND THE ACCESS TO THE BATHROOMS. I MEAN, ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, WE HEAR STORIES OF, YOU KNOW, OUR ELDERS OR THE YOUTH WHO, WHO, OR, OR THOSE WITH, UH, DIFFERENT DISABILITY, UH, DIFFERENT ABILITIES THAT, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, UM, THAT NEED THOSE ACCESS TO THAT FACILITIES. AND WE'RE DEALING WITH THAT AT MTS, YOU KNOW, WITH OUR TRANSIT RIDER. SO, UM, SO IF WE CAN, AND THROUGH THE BUDGET DISCUSSION, REALLY, LIKE LOOK AT PROVIDING, YOU KNOW, SOME FUNDING FOR AT LEAST PORTA POTTIES IN THE INTERIM FOR NOW, I'D, I'D REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. BUT I'M, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THE, UM, WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, SO I CAN VOTE TO, OR, UH, MAKE A MOTION TO, UM, MOVE FORWARD WITH OPTION FOR THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION. SECOND, I SECOND . THAT'S ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL, SECOND, THIRD THERE THING, UH, JUST REAL QUICKLY, THE, THE EXISTING, UH, POOL BUILDING, WE WOULD BE USING ABOUT, ABOUT ONE QUARTER OF ITS CAPACITY RIGHT NOW. THE REST OF IT WOULD BE NOT, NOT USED. UM, AND ONE OF THE CONCERNS, AND I, I TALKED WITH STAFF EARLIER ON THIS THING TODAY, IS THAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE PEOPLE ENTERING IN ON THE WEST SIDE, CHECKING THROUGH THE LOBBY. THEN THEY HAVE TO WALK AROUND THE POOL TO GET OVER TO THE BATHROOMS IN THE CHANGING AREA. WHEN THEY GET OUT OF THE POOL, THEY GOTTA DO THE SAME THING. THEY GOTTA COME ALL THE WAY AROUND, AROUND THE POOL TO EXIT. UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S AN EXIT ON THE SIDE. YEAH. BECAUSE YEAH. EXIT ON THE WEST SIDE BECAUSE ALL THIS STUFF IS GONNA BE OVER ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE POOL. AND SO YOU'RE DISCONNECTING THE LOBBY AND EVERYTHING FROM WHERE YOUR BATHROOMS AND YOUR, UM, THERE'S AN EXIT ON THE EAST SIDE. HUH? THERE'S AN EXIT ON THE EAST SIDE. RIGHT, RIGHT. BUT YOU'RE, BUT YOU HAVE TO SAY, BUT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO COME IN THROUGH THE LOBBY. MM-HMM. . AND, UM, [03:50:01] AND I SAY THAT'S, THAT'S ONLY THERE WHEN IT'S OPENED UP. BUT OTHERWISE, TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM ENTERING IN THAT WAY, IT IS NORMALLY CLOSED. AND, UH, SO THEY HAVE TO COME THROUGH THE LOBBY, SO THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO AROUND THE OTHER SIDE. AND THE PROBLEM, THE PROBLEM IS THESE BUILDINGS ARE NORMALLY CONSIDERED MORE FOR SEMI TEMPORARY USE. THEY'RE NOT MEANT TO BE THE PERMANENT STRUCTURES. AND INDEED, THIS BUILDING HAS DEFINITELY OUTLIVED ITS USEFULNESS, BUT, UM, UH, THE QUESTION COMES UP, YOU KNOW, WE MAY BE 5, 10, 15, 20 YEARS BEFORE WE'RE ABLE TO REPLACE THAT BUILDING, AND YET WE'RE GONNA BE PUTTING IN THINGS THAT ARE SEMI TEMPORARY. UH, SO, UH, THE OTHER CON CONCEPT, AND I DID BRING IT UP TO STAFF ABOUT CONSIDERING, BUT I KNOW I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT ON THE STRUCTURAL SITUATION OF IT, BUT WHERE YOUR LOBBY GOES INTO THE MEN'S, UH, CHANGING AREA, AND YOU'VE GOT SOME OFFICE SPACE THERE, AND, UH, RESTROOMS AND SHOWERS, IF THAT WAS DEMOED, AND USE THE SLAB OR POUR A SLAB OVER THAT AND PUT YOUR TRAILERS THERE. SO THEY'RE RIGHT NEXT TO THE, SO THEY'RE ON THE SAME SIDE AS THE, UH, AS YOUR LOBBY. AND SO YOUR LOBBY IS RIGHT THERE NEXT TO WHERE, SAY, BATHROOMS, UH, SHOWERS, EVERYTHING ELSE BE RIGHT THERE ON THAT, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S NOT TAKING INTO THE, UH, TO THE AREA OF THE, UH, UM, YOUR POOL SLAB. UM, BUT I ASKED STAFF IF THEY WOULD JUST TAKE A LOOK AT TO SEE, I MEAN, IS THERE A STRUCTURAL PROBLEM WITH REMOVING THOSE, THOSE WALLS THAT BASICALLY FORM THE DRESSING AREA AND USE THAT AREA THEN TO, TO, TO, UH, DO AS A STAGING AREA FOR YOUR, FOR YOUR TRAILERS. UM, AND THEN ALSO THEN YOU'VE ALREADY GOT PART OF YOUR DEMO WORK IS ALREADY DONE. UH, 'CAUSE EVENTUALLY IT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE DONE ANYWAY, BUT WHETHER IF IT'S FIVE YEARS FROM NOW, 10, 15, 20 YEARS, WE DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THE SEMI, SEMI TEMPORARY STRUCTURES THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN ARE GONNA HAVE TO DO THE JOB. BUT I SAY, BUT IT'S JUST, BUT THAT'S JUST SOMETHING WE HAVE TO LOOK AT ON THE QUICK, BECAUSE WE GOTTA MOVE QUICKLY ON THIS JUST TO SEE IS THAT EVEN, DOES THAT EVEN, YOU KNOW, CONTEMPLATED OR WOULD IT CHANGE COST OR WHATEVER ELSE? YEAH. LET, LET US CHECK WITH THE DESIGN TEAM TO SEE SURE. WHAT WOULD BE INVOLVED TO DO A, A, A STRUCTURAL ASSESSMENT AND WHAT THE COST AND TIMELINE OF THAT IS, AND THEN THE ADDITIONAL COST TO DEMO AND RECONSTRUCT, UM, REVISITING OPTIONS FOR UTILITY CONNECTIONS. THERE'S A LOT OF CHALLENGES. UH, I THINK WE TALKED YEP. I THINK THAT WOULD BE AN IDEAL LOCATION TO KEEP IT ADJACENT TO THE LOBBY. IT'S JUST WE MAY HAVE COST AND SCHEDULE CONSTRAINTS, BUT WE'RE HAPPY TO CIRCLE BACK WITH THE TEAM AND, AND SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. JUST SEE IF THERE'S ANY FEASIBILITY. SURE. 'CAUSE PUT THE TRAILERS ON THE OTHER SIDE SOUNDS LIKE A TEMPORARY SOLUTION, BUT THIS MAY NOT BE TEMPORARY. AND SO, YOU KNOW, I HATE TO MAKE IT TOO AWKWARD FOR PEOPLE, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE, THAT ARE GONNA BE USING THE POOL. BUT ANYWAY, WE DO HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND DITAS HAS A QUESTION. OH, I'M SORRY. OH, YES. DITAS MAYOR, WE, UH, DISCUSSED THAT WHEN, UH, WE HAD OUR BRIEFING, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER BUSH AND I, WE DISCUSSED THIS WITH THE CITY ENGINEER. IN FACT, WE WERE LAUGHING BECAUSE WE SAID, SO YOU'RE GONNA SEE THE, THE SWIMMERS RUNNING TO THE TRAILER, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, HALF NAKED . YEP. SO, UM, WE REALLY DISCUSSED THAT. BUT, UM, UH, CITY ENGINEER, UM, MADE A GOOD POINT OF, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THE SAME, THE SAME THING THAT HE SAID RIGHT NOW, THE, THE STRUCTURAL, UM, SITUATION OR STATUS OF THOSE BUILDINGS. RIGHT? YEAH. AND THEN THAT, THAT NEEDS TO BE CHECKED OUT TO SEE IF IT EVEN IS A, IS A VIABILITY OR NOT. AND, BUT OTHERWISE, YOU GOT YOUR, ALSO, YOU GOT YOUR CONSTRUCTION ON THE OTHER SIDE WHERE THOSE, THOSE STRUCTURES ARE NOW, YOU STILL GOTTA PUT IN SLAB AND EVERYTHING ELSE, AND THE, UH, UH, AND YOUR PLUMBING ON THERE, ON THAT SITE. ALSO, THIS OTHER ONE, YOU'D EITHER USE THE EXISTING SLAB AND PLUG IT OR YOU PUT ANOTHER SLAB UP ON TOP OF IT IF YOU NEED MORE STRUCTURE. BUT FIND OUT IF THAT'S EVEN FEASIBLE. YES. NO, I, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT, MR. MAYOR. UM, I THINK IT IS IDEAL TO HAVE THE RESTROOMS RIGHT NEXT TO THERE. I THINK, UH, A BIG CONCERN, UM, AT LEAST IN MY BOOK NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DEMO AND DEMO COST AND, UM, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY. YEAH. JUST FIND OUT WHAT, WHICH IS GONNA LIKELY INCREASE THE PRICE OF THE PROJECT, UM, GOOD. AND PLUMBING. AND SO I'M, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE TIMELINE, UM, UH, SEEN AS WE HAVE TO ALLOCATE THE FUNDS RELATIVELY QUICKLY. NO, I UNDERSTAND. BUT I DO, I DO APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS. I DO THINK THAT THEY, THOSE ARE IDEAL LOCATIONS. YEP. AND, AND IT COULD REMEMBER, YOU GOTTA DO DEMO ON THE OTHER SIDE. YOU GOTTA PUT SLAB AND EVERYTHING ON THE OTHER SIDE. ALSO, IF YOU, [03:55:01] YOU PUT IT THERE ON THE EAST SIDE. YEAH. OKAY. SO IT'S JUST FINDING OUT HOW DOES THAT BALANCE OUT. OKAY. ANYWAY, WE DO HAVE MOTION AND A SECOND, UH, ROLL CALL, PLEASE. I'M GONNA GET USED TO THAT ROLL CALL THING AFTER A WHILE. COUNCIL MEMBER BUSH? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER RODRIGUEZ. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER MOLINA. YES. VICE MAYOR IMANI. AYE. MAYOR MORRISON. AYE. MOTION PASSES. OKAY. NEXT WE GO ON TO, [13. CITY MANAGER’S REPORT] UH, CITY MANAGER'S REPORT. YES. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, I DID WANNA ANNOUNCE, UM, JUST BRIEFLY UNDER MY REPORT THAT, UM, THAT, UM, RIGHT HERE, THE, UM, THE DATE, UH, CHIEF, ARE YOU HERE, FIRE CHIEF? NO, HE STEPPED OUT. I DID. HE BOOKED THE, UH, APRIL 19TH IS THE DEADLINE. I KNOW WE'VE ANNOUNCED THIS SEVERAL TIMES, BUT APRIL 19TH IS A DEADLINE TO APPLY FOR ASSISTANCE, UH, THROUGH FEMA. FEMA, YEP. JUST ONE LAST REMINDER, AS WE, THAT'S ONLY THREE DAYS AWAY. I, UM, IN ADDITION, I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE FOURTH ANNUAL, UH, ANNUAL CRUISING, COMMUNITY POLICING CONFERENCE IN ALBUQUERQUE, NEW MEXICO. UH, COMING UP HERE IN, IN END OF MAY. UM, WE DID ATTEND THIS CONFERENCE. UH, I, I PERSONALLY ATTENDED IT LAST YEAR ALONG WITH COUNCIL MEMBER BUSH. UM, CAPTAIN DEREK ATE A LOT, UH, . HE DID. AND, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, HE, HE DOES, HE DOES LOOK LIKE SOMEONE IN THE SHOW BREAKING BAD. SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE OVER THERE IN NEW MEXICO IN ALBUQUERQUE, WHERE BREAKING BAD WAS FILMED. AND, YOU KNOW, I, I COULDN'T STOP TEASING HIM THE WHOLE TIME. , I THINK HE GOT SICK OF ME. UM, ANYWAY, A LOT, FEW MORE STORIES ON THAT ONE, BUT WE'LL SAVE THEM. YEAH. LATER. UM, IT'S 10 16 . SO, UM, I JUST WANTED TO BRING IT UP. I, I FOUND THE CONFERENCE IN LIGHTNING. I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT. I'VE NEVER BEEN TO A CONFERENCE LIKE THAT. I LEARNED A LOT. I THINK WE'VE BEEN, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, FOLLOWING AND PARTNERING WITH ALBUQUERQUE AND THE, AND THE WHOLE MOVEMENT. AND, AND, UH, I THINK IT WAS VALUABLE. I JUST WANTED TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA. THERE'S DISCUSSION TO RETURN AGAIN THIS YEAR. UH, I KNOW, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER BUSH IS, IS ALREADY SIGNING UP VIA HIS, HIS OWN BUDGET AND SO FORTH TO ATTEND. UM, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANTED TO GET DIRECTION FROM THE COUNCIL. UM, I DO THINK A LIMITED PRESENCE, UM, AT THIS YEAR'S CONFERENCE COULD ALSO ASSIST. I, I WOULDN'T GO, BUT PERHAPS SOME POLICE OFFICERS. 'CAUSE THIS IS, THIS IS, UH, RELATED TO THE, THE, UH, POLICE, UH, DEPARTMENT AND, AND, AND, AND CREATING RELATIONSHIPS, UH, WITH, AT RISK YOUTH, YOUTH, ET CETERA. SO, JUST WANTED TO GET YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT, UM, AS WE PROCEED, UH, WITH POTENTIAL, UH, POLICE DEPARTMENT ATTENDANCE. BUT IT IS A SACRIFICE. I WILL SAY THAT TOO. WE TALKED ABOUT IT TO THE, WE TALKED ABOUT IT WITH THE CHIEF, AND THERE'S A COST, THERE'S A SACRIFICE, UM, ET CETERA TO, TO DOING THESE THINGS. BUT, UH, WANTED TO GET YOUR INPUT. OKAY. IF I DON'T HAVE ANY INPUT, I, I WOULD RECOMMEND, YOU KNOW, AND I'LL PROCEED WITH TRYING TO GET, UH, SOME POLICE, UH, ATTENDANCE, UH, UH, AND THEN, AND OUR COUNCIL MEMBER WILL BE THERE REPRESENTING US AS WELL. OKAY. MAYOR, WE HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM. DO WE DO? YES, WE DO. OKAY. AIDA, I HERE . SHE'S OH, OKAY. SHE'S STANDING THERE WAITING. OH, WAIT, I DIDN'T HAVE A SLIP FOR YOU ON THIS ONE. I WASN'T SURE IF I WAS GONNA SAY THIS LONG, BUT, OH, OKAY. I'M HERE. GOOD EVENING. UM, COUNCILMAN S UH, MAYOR TON. I, I JUST WANTED TO, TO SHARE MY COMMENTARY ON THIS ITEM. UH, WE HAD THE CHANCE TO GO TO THIS ALBUQUERQUE LOWRIDER NATIONAL CONFERENCE FOR THE FIRST TIME. I THINK IT WAS OUR SECOND ANNUAL, UM, IN JUNE OF 2022. AND I FOUND IT INCREDIBLY ENLIGHTENING. UH, BUT IT WAS ALSO A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO BUILD COALITIONS WITH ALBUQUERQUE. UH, THEY WERE ONE OF THE FIRST CITIES THAT PRESENTED THIS NO CRUISING ORDINANCE, UM, PROHIBITION. UM, THEY WERE ABLE TO REPEAL IT. THEY WERE THE FIRST CITY, I THINK, IN THE NATION, UH, TO CHAMPION THIS EFFORT. UH, SO I THINK IT'S JUST A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY FOR NATIONAL CITY AND CITY STAFF TO FIND OTHER, UH, COLLEAGUES IN THE SPACE THAT THEY CAN INNOVATE ON PUBLIC POLICY. AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE MOST, UM, EXCITING PARTS OF THIS OPPORTUNITY, WAS THAT WE CAN SEE A CITY DO WHAT WE'VE BEEN ASKING FOR THE CITY TO DO FOR ALMOST, WHAT WAS IT, THE TIME? IT WAS ALMOST A YEAR AND A HALF OF OUR CAMPAIGN EFFORTS WITH THE UNITED LOW RIDER COALITION. UH, SO I JUST WANNA ENCOURAGE, UH, CITY STAFF AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO GET ENGAGED ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE. UM, I THINK THAT ALTHOUGH THIS MAY BE A SACRIFICE FINANCIALLY FOR THE CITY, UH, WE NEED TO, UH, MAKE INVESTMENTS, UM, IN CIVIC ENGAGEMENT OPPORTUNITIES, UM, WITHIN THE LOWRIDER COMMUNITY. I THINK FOR THE FIRST TIME [04:00:01] IN OVER THREE DECADES, THEY HAVE BEEN MORE ENGAGED IN THIS, UH, IN THIS LEGISLATIVE BODY THAN EVER BEFORE. UH, SO THIS IS JUST A, ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY, UH, TO COLLABORATE, UM, WITH OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE ALREADY CHAMPIONED THIS EFFORT. UH, SO I JUST WANNA PROVIDE, UH, MY, UH, MY 2 CENTS ON THAT. UH, BUT I HAD A REMARKABLE TIME AT THE ALBUQUERQUE CONFERENCE, AND I ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO CONTINUE TO PARTICIPATE. THANK YOU. OKAY. YEAH. YOU KNOW, I, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY AGREE WITH AIDA AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THE CONFERENCE SOUNDS LIKE A, YOU KNOW, A GREAT CONFERENCE. I THINK THE ONLY CONCERN IS AT WHAT POINT DO YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, YOU GO TO A LOT OF THESE DIFFERENT TYPE CONFERENCES THAT ARE, I'M GONNA CALL IT, UM, THEY'RE NOT GOVERNMENTAL CONFERENCES. THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE AN ACTIVITY TYPE CONFERENCE A LOT OF TIMES TO, TO LEARN STUFF AND, AND TO GET EXPOSED TO IT. AND THEN THE QUESTION IS, HOW LONG CAN WE JUSTIFY THE EXP THE EXPENDITURE OF CONTINUING TO DO IT AS IF IT WAS A GOVERNMENT CONFERENCE? AND IT'S, AND USING GOVERNMENT MONEY. I THINK THAT'S THE ONLY QUESTION, YOU KNOW, IS IT, IS IT A GREAT, IS IT A GREAT IDEA? AND, AND HAS BEEN REALLY GREAT THAT I KNOW WE'VE ATTENDED AT LEAST TWICE ALREADY AND SENT A GOOD NUMBER OF PEOPLE BACK THERE. BUT IS, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT FROM A GOVERNMENTAL FINANCIAL STANDPOINT, CAN WE CONTINUE TO JUSTIFY AS AN ONGOING, AS AN ONGOING THING, ESPECIALLY AT THE LEVEL THAT WE DO IT? AND, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S NOT SAYING THAT WE SHOULD NOT STILL HAVE REPRESENTATION THERE, BUT JUST DO WE, DO WE START, YOU KNOW, CUTTING BACK OR DOES THIS JUST END UP BEING LIKE A GROUP ACTIVITY ON, ON A YEARLY BASIS? THAT'S, I, I THINK IS, I THINK MIGHT BE A CONCERN. OH, UH, YES. UM, MEMBER IMANI, I, MR. MAYOR, UM, THANK YOU. I, UH, I, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERING YOUR, UH, PRUDENT GUIDANCE, UM, I THINK SINCE, UM, THE EFFORT HAS BEEN PLACED BY OUR, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER BUSH, UM, TO BUILD THAT RELATIONSHIP WITH THE, THE, UH, THE, UH, GROUP FROM AL MM-HMM. OUT FROM NEW MEXICO, ALBUQUERQUE. IN FACT, THEY CAME DOWN HERE AND YOU HOSTED THEM. YEAH. UM, I WAS THERE, UM, WHEN THEY CAME DOWN TO SAN DIEGO. I THINK SINCE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN THE, THE EFFORT HAS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL. MM-HMM. DUE TO THE COMMUNITY, UM, SUPPORTING IT HERE. ALSO, NATIONAL CITY. I THINK A STREAMLINE, UM, REPRESENTATION BY OUR COUNCIL MEMBER. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IF IT IS IN THE PURVIEW OF OUR CITY MANAGER, UM, ECONOMIC IMPACT, UM, I WOULD, UM, I WOULD, UH, HAVE THE CITY MAN MANAGER MAKE THAT DECISION. MM-HMM. MAKES SENSE. UH, MAYOR BUSH, UH, YES. AND I, AND I APPRECIATE THE CITY MANAGER FOR BRINGING THIS, FOR DISCUSSION TO GET, UH, DIRECTION. SO, UH, JUST RESPONDING TO THE MAYOR ON THIS, UH, ABOUT IT BEING MAYBE YOU THINK IT'S NOT A GOVERNMENT CONFERENCE, AND IT ABSOLUTELY IS A GOVERNMENT CONFERENCE BECAUSE THIS IS HOSTED BY THE MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT OF THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE, INCLUDING THEIR POLICE DEPARTMENT. AND IT'S ALL THERE IN THE, UM, PACKET OF INFORMATION. AND THE ONE THAT'S LEADING IT IS, UM, UH, UH, JEFF, I'M BLANKING OUT HIS LA LAST NAME NOW, BUT HE'S THE ONE THAT CAME TO ALBUQUERQUE, UM, UH, OR CAME FROM ALBUQUERQUE THAT WE HOSTED HIM JUST, UH, THIS, THIS PAST YEAR. UM, I WOULD, UM, ENCOURAGE US TO CONTINUE, UM, ATTENDING THIS AND SUPPORTING THIS. YOU KNOW, WE GO TO A LOT OF, UH, CONFERENCES, UM, OVER, OVER THE YEARS. AND IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, SOMETIMES WE DON'T BRING BACK ACTION ITEMS. THIS IS A SPECIFIC EXAMPLE WHERE IN THE LAST TWO YEARS THAT WE'VE GONE, WE HAVE SPECIFIC ACTION ITEMS THAT WE'VE BROUGHT BACK. SO THE FIRST YEAR WAS REALLY TEACHING US ABOUT HOW WE ORGANIZE, HOW WE WORK WITH OUR POLICE, UM, TO, UH, YOU KNOW, REPEAL, UH, THE ORDINANCE AND WHAT THE STEPS WE COULD TAKE. SO THAT WAS ACTUALLY IMPLEMENTED. NOT ONLY WAS IT IMPLEMENTED NATIONAL CITY, IT WAS SPARKED INTO A STATEWIDE MOVEMENT WITH ASSEMBLY MEMBER DAVID ALVAREZ'S, AB 4 36. UH, SO WE, WE MADE HISTORY AND LOW WRITING IS PART OF OUR CULTURE. IT'S PART OF OUR IDENTITY. IT'S WHO WE ARE. UM, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, UM, HAVE, YOU KNOW, EVENTS ONE WE JUST APPROVED ON CONSENT TONIGHT. UM, SO THAT WAS THE FIRST YEAR, THE SECOND YEAR. UM, WHAT WHAT WAS REALLY HELPFUL ABOUT THAT WAS REALLY CONNECTING WITH, UH, NOT, AND THIS ONE ISN'T THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. THIS IS THE CITY OF OLETH, KANSAS, AND IT'S THEIR YOUTH LOW RIDER BIKE PROGRAM. AND SO WHAT THAT IS, IS ULTIMATELY PUBLIC SAFETY. IT'S CRIME PREVENTION. IT'S, UH, TARGETING THE MOST AT RISK YOUTH AND HELPING, TEACHING THEM, ASSIGNING THE MENTORS, TEACHING THEM TO BUILD BIKE. THERE'S A VERY DETAILED CURRICULUM. UM, YOU MAYOR WE'RE AT THE, UM, PRESS CONFERENCE IN THE CEREMONY A COUPLE WEEKS AGO. THAT WAS ALL FROM THE, THE CONFERENCE. [04:05:01] UM, AND SO YOU MOVING FORWARD, UH, I, I WOULD LIKE, UM, TO, OR THREE OF OUR, UH, POLICE OFFICERS TO GO THERE BECAUSE I, I KNOW OUR POLICE GO ON ON CONFERENCES TOO. AND I THINK THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO ALSO, UH, FOR OUR POLICE TO, UM, WORK WITH ALBUQUERQUE AND THE DISCUSSIONS, UH, LAST YEAR, IT WAS SO INFORMATIVE AND HELPFUL. UH, THERE WERE SOME DEEP DISCUSSIONS ABOUT SOMETIMES THE CONFLICTS BETWEEN THE LOW RIDER COMMUNITY AND THE UM, UM, AND POLICE. UM, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO, YOU KNOW, WHERE, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO HOPPING, WHEN IT COMES TO, UM, THERE ARE ISSUES AND EVENTS WITH, WITH THE DRINKING, HONESTLY, WE'VE SEEN THAT AND WE'VE WORKED HARD TO POLICE AND TEACH THE LOW RIDER COMMUNITY ALSO TRY TO SELF-POLICE. SO, UM, I, I THINK IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO GET TWO OR THREE, UH, POLICE OFFICERS. SO THAT'S KIND OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMPONENT PART OF IT. AND THERE'S ALSO AN ECONOMIC POTENTIAL PART OF IT TOO. SO, UM, THAT THE, UH, LOWRIDER SUPER SHOW BRINGS SOMETHING LIKE 14 MILLION IN REVENUE TO THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE THROUGH THE, IT'S A BIG CON, UH, EVENT THAT THEY HA HOSTED THEIR CONVENTION CENTER. UM, SO PEOPLE TRAVEL FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY TO GO THERE TO SPEND THEIR MONEY TO VISIT. AND I HOPE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE NOT THERE YET, BUT I THINK THERE'S A LOT MORE DIFFERENT, UM, EVENTS, UH, PROMOTIONS WE COULD DO ON HIGHLAND, UM, UH, OUR, UM, ECONOMIC, UH, DEVELOPMENT MANAGER. I'M NOT SURE WHAT HIS TITLE NOW IS, BUT, UH, PEDRO GARCIA WENT LAST TIME. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S USEFUL FOR, FOR HIM TO ATTEND THIS YEAR, TO BRING US BACK SOME IDEAS AND PROPOSALS ON WHAT EVENTS WE COULD DO, WHAT WE COULD DO FOR THE ECONOMIC GENERATION POTENTIAL. BECAUSE I THINK, LIKE OF ALL THE CITIES, I THINK, UM, THE TAPPING INTO THE LOW RIDING CULTURE, THAT SHOULD BE A VERY UNIQUELY NATIONAL CITY THING. AND SO, UM, I WOULD ENCOURAGE US TO CONTINUE TO, UH, TO, TO GO THIS YEAR. I ENCOURAGE TWO OR THREE OF OUR, UH, POLICE OFFICERS TO GO. UM, AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE, UH, PEDRO AND, AND MAYBE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBER, MAYOR, I'VE ASKED, I'VE PRACTICALLY BEGGED YOU TO GO, I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR YOU TO GO TO HAVE OUR MAYOR THERE, UM, AND, UH, TO ALSO DO THE, UH, NOT JUST THE NETWORKING AND LEARN AND, AND, AND BRING THIS BACK. SO, UM, I'LL ASK YOU AGAIN THAT I THINK YOU SHOULD GO AS WELL. THANK YOU. OKAY. I, OKAY. AND AS, AS I SAY, I AGREE WITH YOU, I THINK THE CONFERENCE SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT THING. AND I THINK THE, THE, THE, THE IDEA OF HAVING THE, UM, THE ASSEMBLING, SHALL WE SAY, OF ALL THE, THE LOW RIDERS THERE IS GREAT, BUT WE CAN'T COMPARE ALBUQUERQUE WITH US. AND EVEN THE INDIVIDUAL FROM ALBUQUERQUE CAME HERE. WHEN WE SHOWED HIM AROUND TOWN, HE WAS SAYING THERE'S NO COMPARISON AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU CAN DO AND WHAT YOU CAN'T DO. UH, IT, IT'S NOT THE SAME WITH NATIONAL CITY. AND SO, UH, YOU KNOW, AND ESPECIALLY, ESPECIALLY FROM AN ECONOMIC STANDPOINT, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT, BUT, UM, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, MY ONLY DEAL IS JUST MAKING SURE ON THESE TYPE OF EVENTS THAT WE CAN JUSTIFY THEM AS A GOVERNMENTAL EXPENSE, NOT AS A PERSONAL EXPENSE. AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE ONLY ONLY QUESTION THAT I WOULD HAVE. I KNOW IT'S BEEN RAISED BY, BY A FEW PEOPLE, AND, YOU KNOW, AND SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, AND YOU KNOW, SOME THINGS I, I GO TO ON GOVERNMENTAL EXPENSE GOVERNMENT AND SOME, SOME THINGS I GO ON, ON MY OWN EXPENSE. AND SO, UH, ANYWAY, YES. THANK YOU, MS. MAYOR. UM, I DO THINK FOR LIKE A SEGMENT OF THE AUDIENCE, UM, THEY MAY JUST BE A LITTLE LOST, NOT UNDERSTANDING WHAT KIND OF THE DYNAMICS ARE. SO JUST A LITTLE KIND OF BACKGROUND. UM, THIS CONFERENCE, WHICH TAKES PLACE EVERY YEAR IN ALBUQUERQUE IS ONE THAT IS HOSTED BY THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE, AS WELL AS ITS POLICE DEPARTMENT. IT'S INTENDED TO DO OUTREACH, UH, TO THE LOW RIDER COMMUNITY. MM-HMM. , WHICH HAS HISTORICALLY IN OUR CITY AS WELL AS OTHERS, UM, HAS HAVE NOT BEEN ON THE SAME PAGE AS OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. AND SO IT IS INTENDED TO BE A BRIDGE TO WORK TOGETHER TO BETTER WORK TOGETHER, TO UNDERSTAND EACH OTHER, TO MYSTIFY EACH OTHER, UM, IN ORDER TO, FOR OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND EVERY OTHER POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT GOES THERE TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE LOWRIDER COMMUNITY AND VICE VERSA. AND, UM, SO IT'S INTENDED TO HAVE POSITIVE WORKING RELATIONSHIPS WITH EACH OTHER. MM-HMM. TRUE. UM, ALTHOUGH I HAVE NOT ATTENDED, UH, THANK YOU FOR THE INVITATION, . I DO INTEND TO ATTEND AT SOME POINT, BUT, UH, BUT I DO FIND IT USEFUL TO HAVE, UM, NOT JUST A REPRESENTATIVE FROM OUR COUNCIL TO BE IN ATTENDANCE, BUT ALSO SOMEBODY FROM OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT OR INDIVIDUALS FROM OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND OUR MANAGEMENT TEAM, UM, SO THAT WE CAN SPEAK TO OTHER MUNICIPALITIES THAT MAY BE GOING THROUGH THE SAME THING AS US. AND I THINK OUR JOB AS, UH, ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES OF OUR CITY IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CREATE A MORE HARMONIOUS COMMUNITY. MM-HMM. . AND THAT MEANS, UM, YOU KNOW, DEMYSTIFYING SOME OF THESE HISTORICAL BARRIERS THAT [04:10:01] HAVE, UH, I THINK, UM, EXISTED BETWEEN OUR POLICE FORCE AND THE LOW RIDER COMMUNITY. SO NOW THAT WE PASSED THE NO CRUISING ORDINANCE, UM, UH, NOW THAT WE REPEALED THE NO CRUISING ORDINANCE, IT'S 10 30. ALL RIGHT. , NOW THAT WE REPEALED THE NO CRUISING ORDINANCE, UM, I THINK IT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON THIS RELATIONSHIP. UM, SO I, I AM VERY MUCH SUPPORTIVE OF, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, HAVING CITY REPRESENTATION THERE. YEAH. RIGHT. AND, AND I'M NOT AGAINST REPRESENTATION. UH, MY ONLY THING IS IF IT'S YEAR AFTER YEAR AND WE'RE SENDING LARGER GROUPS BACK THERE, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT IS THE OVERALL BENEFIT OF THAT COMPARED TO OTHER TRAINING THAT WE'RE LETTING OUT AND TAKING PERSONNEL AWAY FROM FROM HERE? I JUST EXPLAINED THAT , I JUST WENT OVER THAT NOW. I KNOW, BUT I , SIR, ARE YOU LOOKING FOR A FORMAL VOTE? NO, I THINK YOU JUST PUT MAYOR. OKAY. OKAY. I'M SORRY. UP, UP ON THE SCREEN. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. UM, YOU KNOW, IMAN, MAYBE JUST TO BE CONSISTENT, MAYOR, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, COUNCIL MEMBER BUSH WOULD, UH, WOULD AGREE TO STREAMLINE, UM, THE, UH, THE, UH, RELATION, YOU KNOW, I MEAN THE CONSISTENT BUILDING RELATIONSHIP WITH THIS AGENCY WHO, WHO REALLY EDUCATED US, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH REGARDS TO, UM, THAT OR THAT, THAT, UM, UM, THAT, THAT BILL, UM, SO MAYBE OUR COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, WITH, UM, CAP CAPTAIN AND, UH, THE, THE, THE OFFICER WHO IS IN CHARGE OF OUR YOUTH PROGRAM. BUT, UH, I'M JUST MAKING SUGGESTION, UM, THAT THAT IS THE CALL OF OUR CHIEF. SO, UM, UM, SO I'M SURE THAT WOULD BE A, A, A GOOD COMPROMISE MAYOR AND FYIA, UH, UH, TENANT, NO, CAPTAIN, A CAPTAIN OT, UH, CANNOT ATTEND. SO THEN I, I'M FINE WITH THE CHIEF CHOOSING. I MEAN, IF IT'S A QUESTION OF BUDGET, THEN I'M WILLING TO TAKE IT OUT OF MY BUDGET. I MEAN, I JUST, YEAH. SO ANYWAY, OKAY. I THINK, I THINK I'VE, UH, RECEIVED ENOUGH DIRECTION. OKAY. MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION TO EXTEND THE MEETING PAST THE 10 30 MARK TO COMPLETE THE ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA. SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. UH, CAN WE HAVE ROLL CALL ON THAT? CAN, CAN, UH, CAN WE HAVE A TIME SENSITIVE DATE? UH, TIME TO THAT TIME SENSITIVE TIME NOW YOU WANNA, IT'S 10 30 GUYS. WE'RE ALMOST DONE. I MEAN, OKAY. JUST GET IT DONE. ALRIGHT, LET'S HOPE WE GET THROUGH THIS SOON. COUNCIL MEMBER BUSH? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER RODRIGUEZ. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER MOLINA? YES. UH, VICE MAYOR? YES. MAYOR MORRISON. AYE. MOTION PASSES. OKAY. UM, OKAY. SO CITY MANAGER, YOU JUST BROUGHT THAT UP FOR DISCUSSION AND YOU, YOU'VE GOT, YOU THINK YOU'VE GOT ENOUGH FOR YOU, IT'S YOUR DECISION. YES, SIR. THANK YOU ON STUFF. ANYWAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALRIGHT, NEXT WE GET INTO OUR, UH, ELECTED OFFICIALS REPORT. AND WE HAVE A, A COUPLE ITEMS [14.1 POLICY 105 REQUEST - Local Agency Formation Commission Informational Presentation - Requested by Councilmember Bush] ON HERE. FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE A PO POLICY 1 0 5 REQUEST, LOCAL AGENCY FORMATION, COMMISSION INFORMATIONAL PRESENTATION. AND THIS WAS REQUESTED BY COUNCIL MEMBER BUSH. NOW, FOR THESE ONLY THING WE CAN DO, WE CAN ONLY AS FAR AS UP ON THE DI WE CAN ONLY DISCUSS WHETHER IF WE WANNA PUT THESE ON A FUTURE AGENDA, WE DON'T GET TO DISCUSS THE ITEM. THAT WOULD BE A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM. OKAY. UM, AND, AND WE DO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS. WE DO HAVE SOME PUBLIC COMMENTS. YES. SO, MEMBER BUSH, YES. UH, THANK, THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, SO THE REASON I BROUGHT UP THESE REQUESTS, UH, BOTH, THEY'RE TWO SEPARATE REQUESTS, AND I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE MORE ACTION, AND I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A DIFFERENT APPROACH WHEN IT COMES TO DEALING WITH THE PORT OF SAN DIEGO. UM, THESE ARE ISSUES ABOUT JUSTICE AND ABOUT FAIRNESS TO NATIONAL CITY. I DON'T THINK ANYONE IN THIS ROOM BELIEVES THAT WE GET OUR FAIR SHARE, UH, FROM THE PORT. UM, AND CERTAINLY NOT ON THIS, UH, DAIS, BUT PLEASE, IF ANY OF MY COLLEAGUES, UH, DISAGREE, LET ME KNOW. UM, SO THIS IS ABOUT, UM, HAVING MORE ACCESS TO, UM, THE, FOR THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, IT'S, UH, PARKS, UH, HOTELS, PUBLIC SAFETY DOLLARS. UM, AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND MAYOR, I KNOW ME AND YOU, UM, YOU KNOW, PERSONALLY, WE DON'T AGREE ON A LOT OF DIFFERENT ISSUES, BUT I DO HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT YOU'VE BEEN FIGHTING THIS FIGHT FOR DECADES. MM-HMM. . UM, AND I APPRECIATE THAT, AS WELL AS OUR POOR COMMISSIONER, DUKE VALDERRAMA. UM, SO WITH, YOU KNOW, AND AGAIN, BACK TO LAF, LAFCO, AN OVERALL PICTURE, WE GENERATE MORE REVENUE PER CAPITA IN NATIONAL CITY PORT TIDELAND THAN ANY MAYOR, PLEASE LET ME FINISH. NO, WHAT? I'M JUST GONNA HAVE TO, OTHERWISE, YOU'RE GETTING INTO DISCUSSION. IT'S NOT GETTING INTO THE DISCUSSION. IT'S THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION THAT MY COLLEAGUES AND YOU NEED IN ORDER TO MAKE A DECISION ON WHETHER TO PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA. OKAY. UM, I'M GONNA [04:15:01] HAVE TO ASK OUR LEGAL COUNSEL, ARE WE CROSSING THE LINE, OR, OR, OR SHOULD WE DO MORE? OR WHAT? I, I THINK, THINK JUST UNDER THE POLICY, THE, WHAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT IS JUST, AGAIN, WHETHER OR NOT TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA, AS LONG AS WE'RE NOT GETTING INTO THE MERITS OF WHAT THE DISCUSSION IS, WHAT WE NEED TO DO. RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT THE POLICY CALLS FOR. IT SAYS THAT WE, OKAY. UM, WHAT, WHAT I'M EXPLAINING IS THE BACKGROUND INFO, GUYS, UM, THAT'S, AND THIS, AGAIN, BROWN ACT, THIS IS PUBLIC, SO I'M NOT ARGUING THE MERITS OF IT. I'M SAYING THIS IS THE BACKGROUND INFO. SO, UM, AGAIN, GETTING BACK TO IT, WE GENERATE MORE REVENUE FOR PER, PER CAPITA, THE REVENUE GENERATED ON NATIONAL CITIES, STATE TIDELANDS, AND THERE ARE STATE LANDS. UM, IT LEAVES NATIONAL CITY. IT GOES TO SUPPORT PARKS AND PUBLIC AMENITIES AND ALL THESE OTHER CITIES. UM, AND YET WE'RE STUCK WITH ALL THE POLLUTION, ALL THE TRAFFIC FROM PORT OPERATIONS. IT HAS REAL LIFE IMPACTS. WE HAVE THE HIGHEST RATES OF ASTHMA AND CANCER, ESPECIALLY IN THE OT, NC UH, WEST SIDE NATIONAL CITY. I DON'T THINK IT'S A COINCIDENCE THAT WE AS A CITY, WE'RE 90% PEOPLE OF COLOR WHERE THE MOST DIVERSE CITY IN THE COUNTY, AND YET WE GET SADDLED WITH ALL THE IMPACTS. UM, WE DON'T, WE'RE THE ONLY ONE WITHOUT A BEACH OF ALL THE CITIES. UM, IT'S NOT, NOT CLEAR TO ME THAT WE GET, YOU KNOW, THE, THE JOBS AND THESE ARE GOOD UNION PAYING JOBS. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE ALL HAVE, UH, MAY HAVE DIFFERENT APPROACHES TO THIS, BUT I DO BELIEVE OUR GOAL IS THE SAME. AND I, AND I WANT US TO BE AS UNITED AS POSSIBLE. YOU KNOW, THERE'S, UM, 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PORT MAKEUP, YOU KNOW, WITH THE OTHER, UM, CITIES, UM, THEY DON'T REALLY HAVE AN INCENTIVE TO HELP PUSH US ALONG. UM, AND SO THERE'S TWO APPROACHES. THEY BOTH ARE, UM, ACCOUNT ACCOUNTABILITY AND OVERSIGHT. I THINK THE REASONABLE AND CONSISTENT WITH THE REQUIREMENTS WE HAVE IN OTHER PUBLIC AGENCIES. SO THE LOCAL AGENCY FORMATION COMMISSION IS A STATE AGENCY THAT UNANIMOUSLY VOTED IN MARCH TO BEGIN OVERSIGHT OF THE PORT. LAFCO SPECIALIZES IN WHAT'S CALLED MUNICIPAL SERVICE REVIEWS. IT'S AN ANALYSIS OF PUBLIC AGENCIES THAT DETERMINES THE QUALITY OF SERVICES. SO POLICE, FIRE, PARKS, SEWER, ET CETERA. UM, AND I KNOW ABOUT THIS BECAUSE I USED TO DO MUNICIPAL SERVICE REVIEWS WHEN I WAS A PLANNING CONSULTANT. UM, SO, UM, UH, WE'VE, UH, IN NATIONAL CITY, UM, WE'VE SENT LETTERS TO THE PORT ABOUT THIS, UH, MOST RECENTLY IN 2021, QUESTIONING THE METHODOLOGY OF ESPECIALLY OUR, OUR PUBLIC SAFETY, OUR POLICE AND, UH, FIRE. UM, WE'VE BEEN ASKING FOR CLARIFICATION. UM, AND SPECIFICALLY ON THE FIGURES, NATIONAL CITY, UH, GETS 1.2 MILLION IN PUBLIC SAFETY DOLLAR REIMBURSEMENTS. FOR CONTEXT, THE CITY OF IMPERIAL BEACH GETS 5 MILLION OVER 5 MILLION. AND THAT'S ACCORDING TO AT LEAST THE 20, UH, 21 FIGURES. IMPERIAL BEACH IS LESS THAN HALF OF OUR SIZE, GENERATES SUBSTANTIALLY LESS REVENUE, AND YET GETS FOUR TIMES AS MUCH IN PUBLIC SAFETY DOLLARS. SO I, SO THAT'S WHAT I THINK LKO CAN HELP US WITH. WE DID RECEIVE A TOUR, AND I THINK THE FIRE CHIEF FOR GIVING ME THAT TOUR IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE BEEN ON OUR WATERFRONT, UH, FACILITIES TO SEE THE PORT OPERATIONS AND TO SEE THE FIRE RISK THAT, UH, THAT YOU ALL HAVE TO, TO DEAL WITH. UH, LIEUTENANT A ALOT WAS IN ATTENDANCE AS WELL AS THE LAFCO EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, UH, KEAN SIMONS, UM, AND ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, IN THE WATERFRONT WITH THE GROWTH OF EVS AND, UH, THE THREAT THAT LITHIUM BATTERIES, UH, PROPOSED. SO WHAT THIS IS ABOUT IS ASKING LAFCO COME BACK TO CITY COUNCIL, GIVE US A BACKGROUND ON WHAT THEY DO, HOW THEY CAN HELP US LOOK AT REVIEWING OUR PORT MSA TO DETERMINE IF THE METHODOLOGY IS FAIR, WHAT THE BARRIERS ARE PREVENTING THE CITY FROM RECEIVING AS FAIR SHARE OF PUBLIC SAFETY DOLLARS. I DID TALK TO THE STATE LANDS COMMISSION, UM, AND, UM, AND SO THEY'RE INTERESTED IN THIS, UH, IN THIS CON CONVERSATION. UM, THEY AGREE THAT THE CURRENT SETUP ISN'T FAIR. THEY'RE OPEN TO CHANGES. THEY ARE CONCERNED WITH LAFCO GIVING OVERSIGHT. SO THERE'S SOME QUESTIONS THERE. AND I'M OPEN TO INVITING STATE LANDS COMMISSION AT THIS AS, UH, WELL, BUT, UM, AS WELL AS THE PORT, I'M OPEN TO BRINGING THE PORT IN THIS TOO. I'M NOT TRYING TO SHUT THEM OUT. BUT, UM, 'CAUSE MAYBE THERE IS A, AN ADDITIONAL LEGISLATIVE FIX THAT'S NEEDED. UM, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE PORT IS OPPOSED TO, UH, LGO OVERSIGHT. UM, THIS IS A DIFFERENT APPROACH FOR US, AND I'M ASKING US TO BRING BACK WITH INFORMATION. AND THE MAIN GOAL OF THIS ITEM, IT'S OUR PUBLIC SAFETY DOLLARS. OKAY. UH, WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF SPEAKERS, EDDIE PEREZ, EDDIE PEREZ, UH, LEAVING, GETTING LAID ON. UM, I DON'T THINK WHAT WE GOT TO LOSE. I MEAN, I THINK TRANSPARENCY. I MEAN, LET'S LISTEN TO SEE WHAT THEY CAN DO FOR OUR CITY. I THINK THAT THE COMMUNITY IS AWARE OF THIS, PARTICULARLY COMMUNITY MEMBERS SUCH AS YOURSELF, THOSE IN POSITIONS OF UNDERSTANDING MORE ABOUT THE PORT THAN MYSELF, IS THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE THE LAST ON THE BLOCK, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT COMES TO WHAT THE PORT CAN DO FOR US. UM, THEY PUT YACHTS IN OUR BACKYARD. THEY PUT CANOEING OR ROWING IN OUR BACKYARD, BUT THEY [04:20:01] REALLY HAVEN'T PUT ANYTHING FOR US EXCEPT FOR PARK THAT THEY LET US USE. AND I THINK IT'S TIME TO LOOK AT, UM, WHAT WE CAN ACTUALLY GET FOR OUR CITY, FOR OUR RESIDENTS. UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU THINK OF A BEACH, PEOPLE ARE LIKE, EH, AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN. WHAT AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN IF YOU HAVE THAT KIND OF ATTITUDE? AND SO, UH, I THINK, UH, WE'RE MOVING FORWARD. UH, THIS IS A CITY, WHAT IS IT? WE'RE ALL IN THE MIDDLE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I THOUGHT IT WAS STILL THE CITY OF MOTION, BUT, UH, UH, SLOW MOTION. BUT, UH, SO I, I, I'M, I MEAN, THE NEW MOTTO, I GUESS IS, IS ALL, WE'RE ALL IN THE MIDDLE, RIGHT? BUT ANYWAY, I JUST THINK I SUPPORT THIS IDEA. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, UH, LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT IT. I, I THINK IT'S ABOUT WORTH IT. AND I THINK THE RESIDENTS DESERVE TO SEE WHAT'S OUT THERE WHO CAN POSSIBLY, UH, HELP US. AND THEY'RE KNOWN AS A WATCHDOG. SO COME ON. LET'S DO, YEP. I BELIEVE WE HAVE SOMEONE ON ZOOM. WE DO. UM, SHARON CLOUD. GOOD EVENING. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN. UM, MY NAME'S SHARON KLAU AND I'M PRESIDENT OF THE SAN DIEGO WORKING WATERFRONT. I'M ACTUALLY WAS HERE TO SPEAK ON THE NEXT ITEM, BUT, UM, THIS ITEM KIND OF SURPRISED ME WHEN I SAW IT ON THE AGENDA. FIRST, I'D LIKE TO JUST THANK YOU GUYS. I'VE BEEN LISTENING TO ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON IN YOUR CITY. THIS IS WAY PAST MY BEDTIME, SO, UM, YOU GUYS, I'LL LET YOU WORK. UM, BUT, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS I BROUGHT UP, AND I APPRECIATE COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, BUSH'S COMMENTS ABOUT LAFCO, I JUST LOOK AT LCO RIGHT NOW IS, UM, THE PORT, THE STATE LANDS IN THE, AND, UM, AND LAFCO ARE ALL TALKING. I, I THINK IT'S LIKE PREMATURE. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY A CITY WOULD BE COMING, YOU KNOW, INTO THIS THING WITH LAFCO RIGHT NOW. LAFCO HAS LIMITATIONS. SO DOES THE PORT HAVE LIMITATIONS ACCORDING TO THE STATE LANDS, THE PORT ACT AND SUCH? UM, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT TRYING TO GET A BEACH FOR MAYBE IT'S NATIONAL CITY, I MEAN, WE'D HAVE A LOSS OF JOBS AND, AND SUCH. I, I, I GUESS I QUESTION WHAT YOU FEEL THAT LAFCO IS GONNA BE ABLE TO DO FOR YOU. AND, AND I MADE A COMMITMENT TO OUR MAYOR, YOUR MAYOR, THAT, YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE WITHOUT DOING A GIFT OF FUNDS, THAT WE CAN WORK TOGETHER ON SOMETHING. UM, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF LAFCO IS REALLY, IN MY OPINION, THE RIGHT WAY TO GO. SO JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT TO YOUR, TO YOUR ATTENTION AS YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. UM, COUPLE THINGS ON THIS, JUST REAL QUICK. UH, LAFCO DID DO AN, A UNANIMOUS VOTE. THE LOCAL LAFCO WAS TO DO OVERSIGHT OVER THE PORT. OF COURSE, THE OB PRESENTATION THEY GOT WAS FROM THE HEAD OF LAFCO, THE LOCAL LAFCO, AND THEY DIDN'T INFORM THE PORT. UM, THE, UH, AND FOR THE LAST 60 SOME ODD YEARS, STATE LANDS COMMISSION HAS OVERSEEN THE PORT AND THROUGH ALL, THROUGH ALL THE LEGISLATION THAT HAS SEPARATED THE UNIFIED PORT FROM OTHER PORTS HERE IN, IN THE, UH, CALIFORNIA. UM, AND SO THE, UH, STATE LANDS COMMISSION ISSUED TWO DIFFERENT LETTERS. AND THEY BOTH BASICALLY SAID, UH, LAFCO, YOU'VE GOT NO JURISDICTION. UH, YOU KNOW, THE STATE HAS ISSUED THAT TO US, TO THE STATE LANDS COMMISSION. UM, AND I KNOW MEMBER BUSH HAS BEEN WANTING ME TO MEET WITH THE, UH, WITH LAFCO AND DO ALL THIS STUFF. BUT I'VE SAID, WHAT I'VE SAID ALL THE WAY ALONG IS UNTIL LAFCO GETS A LETTER FROM THE STATE, 'CAUSE LAFCO IS A STATE AGENCY AND SO IS STATE LANDS COMMISSION. AND SO UNTIL LAFCO GETS A LETTER FROM THE STATE SAYING THEY'VE GOT JURISDICTION, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE WOULD GET INVOLVED. AND SO I THINK THAT'S PREMATURE. IF THEY CAN, IF THEY CAN PROVIDE SOMETHING FROM THE STATE SAYING THEY HAVE JURISDICTION, THEN I THINK THIS WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE VERY AVAILABLE ON THE, THE, UH, FOR USTED TO TAKE UP. BUT IN THE MEANTIME, YOU GOT THESE TWO STATE AGENCIES THAT ARE HAVING A, I'VE GOT A WORD FOR IT, BUT I CAN'T USE THAT WORD. UH, HAVING A, A LITTLE BACK AND FORTH WITH EACH OTHER. THAT'S TRUE. YEAH. YOU KNOW, AND I JUST DON'T SEE US GETTING IN THE MIDDLE OF IT UNTIL THEY GET THAT SETTLED OUT WITH THE STATE ITSELF, AND THEN, THEN WE CAN GET INVOLVED FULL BORE. UH, EDDIE, I AGREE WITH YOU. I MEAN, UH, WE, WE, WE GOT A LOT OF STUFF THAT WE NEED, WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD ON, AND THERE'S A LOT OF AREAS THAT WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED OUR FAIR SHARE. AND, UH, BUT I THINK GETTING IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS LITTLE BATTLE UNTIL THEY GET IT WORKED OUT, I DON'T THINK IS, UH, IS GONNA BE THE WAY TO GET ANY OF THAT THEY CALL RED HAIR. I DUNNO, , WAIT UNTIL THAT HAPPENS. I MEAN, OKAY. I JUST DO COMMENT. ALRIGHT. YES. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, UH, I THINK WE HAVE EXTENDED, I THINK THE CONVERSATION BE BEYOND WHAT THIS IS, WHICH IS, UH, LET'S HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT [04:25:01] THIS AND, AND, UM, I, I DON'T KNOW IF I HEARD A MOTION, BUT I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN LISTENING TO LAFCO, HAVING THEM COME TO US AND, AND EXPLAIN, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY DO, WHAT, WHAT THEY PROPOSE, WHAT BE, UM, YOU KNOW, THEIR INTEREST IN OVERSEEING THE PORT. UM, AT THIS POINT, I THINK ANYTHING HAVING TO DO WITH OVERSIGHT REGARDING THE PORT IS NECESSARY. AND IT'S DIFFICULT TO IMAGINE ANY ARGUMENT THAT WOULD SAY, NO, LET'S NOT DO OVERSIGHT OF THE PORT. HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY DEFEND THAT? SO, UM, MARCUS, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU MADE A MOTION TO MOVE THIS FORWARD. I, I WOULD SECOND THAT. UM, YEAH. SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE LKO, UM, COME BACK TO THE CITY, CITY COUNCIL AND EITHER OF THE MAIN MEETINGS. UM, AND I'LL ALSO INVITE, I'LL ADD ON TO STATE LANDS COMMISSION WITH THAT TOO, AS WELL AS THE PORT TO TALK ABOUT SPECIFICALLY THE MUNICIPAL SERVICE AGREEMENT. I, UM, SO I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION. SECOND IT AGAIN, I'LL, AND I'LL SAY THIS TOO, I UNDERSTAND, MAYOR, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT THIS BATTLE BETWEEN TWO AGENCIES. I THINK GIVEN THAT BALANCE PLAN, IT'S BEEN 20 YEARS, I THINK IT'S TIME FOR US TO TAKE LEADERSHIP IN SOME BOLD ACTION. AND I DO THINK WE NEED TO, THIS IS AGAIN, OUR PUBLIC SAFETY DOLLARS. AND, UM, I THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. YEAH. UM, I'LL JUST, IF, IF I COULD JUST SAY REAL QUICKLY THAT, UH, UM, AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE OVERSIGHT, AND I THINK WE'VE SEEN IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED WITH THE NAVY, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE GET TO VOTE THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE AN OVERSIGHT OVER THE NAVY. AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT'S HAPPENED WITH LKO HERE. UH, SO AS I SAY, UNTIL, UNTIL WE SEE THAT THEY'VE GOT AN OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY HAVE OVERSIGHT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT SO MANY THINGS ON OUR PLATE TO BE TAKEN UP A BATTLE BETWEEN THESE TWO STATE AGENCIES, LET THEM GET THAT FIXED OUT. WE CAN STILL BE WORKING AHEAD WITH GETTING THE OTHER STUFF. WE'RE ALREADY WORKING WITH THE PORT BALANCE PLAN. ALL THOSE THINGS GOING BEFORE COASTAL COMMISSION, ALL THAT STUFF IS MOVING AHEAD. UH, BUT, AND SAY, SO I WOULD MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION THAT FOR THE TIME BEING UNTIL THEY, THEY GET THIS WORKED OUT, THAT WE DO NOT, UH, GET IN, GET IN THE MIDDLE OF THEM UNTIL THEY, UNTIL WE FIND OUT WHO'S ACTUALLY GOT JURISDICTION. THAT WOULD BE BY SUBSTITUTE MOTION. I, FOR LACK OF A SECOND. UH, MR. MAYOR, WHAT, JUST POINT OF CLARIFICATION. ARE YOU MAKING A SUBSTITUTE MOTION? YES. AND THAT IS, THAT IS TO HOLD OFF ON THIS UNTIL LCO AND, YOU KNOW, THEY GET SOME, SOME, UH, INDICATION FROM THE STATE THAT THEY'VE GOT ANY KIND OF JURISDICTION. OKAY. I'LL SECOND THAT. MAYOR. OKAY. UH, MEMBER RODRIGUEZ. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I WAS ACTUALLY, UM, I AGREE WITH THE SENTIMENTS OF MY COLLEAGUES. I THINK WE'RE ALL FRUSTRATED WITH THE, UM, CURRENT STATE OF OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE, UH, WITH THE PORT AND THE HISTORICAL, I THINK INJUSTICES THAT SOME OF THE CURRENT PORT COMMISSIONERS HAVE HAD, YOU KNOW, SAYAN JUST KINDA THE WAY IT'S BEEN FOR THE LAST 50, 60 YEARS. RIGHT. SO, UM, I AGREE WITH THE SENTIMENTS. UH, I WAS ACTUALLY GONNA VOTE NO AGAINST THE MOTION, AND I COULD ELABORATE FURTHER SEEING AS THIS IS A POLICY 1 0 5 REQUEST ON WHY I WOULD, UH, MAYBE IN MY COUNCIL COMMENTS, BUT I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING, UH, EVEN THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION. I, I DON'T THINK IT'S CONDUCIVE TO, UH, CONTINUED WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THE PORT FOR US TO HAVE THIS KIND OF, UH, UH, ONGOING DIALOGUE. AND TO PUT THINGS INTO CONTEXT, WE'RE ESSENTIALLY WE'RE, IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, UM, PROPOSAL OR WHAT'S BEING DISCUSSED AT THE TIME, WE'RE ESSENTIALLY SAYING, HEY, WE SHOULD HEAR OUT WHAT ONE AGENCY THINKS, HOW THEY WOULD HAVE JURISDICTION OVER ANOTHER AGENCY. AND I THINK, UM, UH, I DON'T THINK WE'RE UNDERSTANDING THE MAGNITUDE OF THE, UH, WHAT WE'RE SAYING. IT, IT IS, IT IS, IT'S HUGE. NOT JUST FOR US AS A CITY, BUT FOR THE REGION. I DON'T, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD HAVE THAT DISCUSSION. I DON'T THINK IT'S POSITIVE AND CONDUCIVE TO A WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CURRENT COURT. OKAY. MR. MAYOR, I, I, I'M NOT TOO SURE IF I WAS REALLY CLEAR ON WHAT, HOW YOU . I'M, I'M VOTING NO, I'M, I'M VOTING NO ON THE SUBSTITUTE BECAUSE EVEN THE SUBSTITUTE IS SAYING, LET'S WAIT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS AND THEN WE'LL BRING THIS BACK. WELL, YEAH. TILL WE FIND OUT WHO'S GOT JURISDICTION. RIGHT. SO I'M AGAIN, VOTING NOW ON IT. OKAY. OKAY. NO PROBLEM. COMMENT, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA GO TO A VOTE. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, I, I, I, I AGREE WITH THE, UH, COMMENTS OF COUNCIL MEMBER RODRIGUEZ. I THINK IT'S PREMATURE. UM, SO I WOULD DRAW MY SECOND, MR. MOS, MR. CHAIRMAN. OKAY. SO THERE IS NO, THERE IS NO SUBSTITUTE MOTION ON THE FLOOR. OKAY. SO THE ORIGINAL MOTION IS TO HAVE LKO COME AND MAKE A PRESENTATION [04:30:01] AND FOR ANY OF THE OTHER ENTITIES THAT MIGHT BE INVOLVED, THAT THEY WOULD BE WELCOMED ALSO, STATE LANDS COMMISSION AND THE PORT. OKAY. SO THAT IS, THAT IS THE CURRENT MOTION. AND THAT WAS, THAT WAS YOUR SECOND, CORRECT? YES. OKAY. SO THAT WAS IT. ALRIGHT. UH, OKAY. WE GOTTA DO ROLL CALL. YES, I'M SORRY. OH, YES. COUNCIL MEMBER BUSH? YES. UH, COUNCIL MEMBER RODRIGUEZ NAY. COUNCIL MEMBER MOLINA? YES. VICE MAYOR YANI? NO. AND MAYOR MORRISON? NO. SO THREE, TWO MOTION FAILS. SO IT JUST, IT JUST GOES AWAY. THEN WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT END. YEAH. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UM, THE, UH, NEXT [14.2 POLICY 105 REQUEST - Support of AB 2783 - Requested by Councilmember Bush] ONE IS A 1 0 5 REQUEST. ALSO, THIS IS TO SUPPORT AB UH, 27 83. THIS WAS ALSO, NO, IT'S TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA. HUH? IT'S TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA TO, TO PUT, YEAH, TO PUT ON A FUTURE AGENDA. THE CON THE CONCEPT OF SUPPORT FOR AB UH, 27 83. THIS WAS ALSO REQUESTED BY COUNCIL MEMBER BUSH. YES. SO, UM, WITHOUT GETTING INTO AGAIN THE DISCUSSION AND MERITS, UM, AND, UH, SO THIS IS GOING, THIS BILL'S GOING THROUGH COMMITTEE. UM, WE HAVE SOME, UH, PUBLIC SPEAKERS. UM, AND THIS IS AN ETHICS REFORM BILL. UM, I'M, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING FROM, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE SPEAKERS. UM, I, I THINK, YOU KNOW, REFORM, WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO DISCUSS THIS TO PUT THE ON THE AGENDA. I, AND I WOULD REALLY LIKE THIS TO BE SOONER RATHER THAN EVEN POTENTIALLY A SPECIAL MEETING ON THIS BECAUSE AS, AS WE'VE HEARD, THE PORT'S CALLING A SPECIAL MEETING ON THIS. SO, UH, WE, WE NEED TO TAKE ACTION OF, OF SOME SORT. UM, UH, AND THE, RIGHT NOW, THE NEXT PHASE, IT PASSED THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT COMMITTEE ON A A FIVE ONE VOTE. UH, NOW IT'S GOING TO THE, AS FAR AS I KNOW, THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE ON APRIL 24TH, UH, CHULA VISTA ALSO SUPPORTED IT. SO, UM, YEAH, WE SO PUT PUTTING THIS ON THE AGENDA. OKAY. SO THAT WAS A MOTION YE UH, YEAH, I SETTING THE MOTION. WELL, YES. TO, TO PUT IN, TO SCHEDULE A SPECIAL MEETING BEFORE THE 24TH. OKAY. AND, UH, OKAY. UM, ALRIGHT. THE, UH, OKAY. SO THE COMMENTS WE DO, WE DO HAVE A NUMBER SPEAKER, A MOTION A SECOND. DO WE WANNA GO TO SPEAKERS? YEAH, YEAH. WE GOT, WE GOTTA GO ON THE SPEAKERS NOW. UH, WE HAVE, UH, JENNIFER BLACK HALL. THERE SHE IS, BE FOLLOWED BY EDWARD NETO. SORRY TO KEEP YOU UP SO LATE. NO WORRIES. IT'S A, IT'S A SLIGHT NIGHTMARE. UM, BUT HI, I'M JEN BLACKWELL. I'VE BEEN A SOUTH BAY RESIDENT FOREVER, UM, EVER IN MY LIFE. UH, SO I'M HERE IN SUPPORT OF AB 27 83. UM, BECAUSE I JUST THINK REALLY IT'S JUST BEEN UNFAIR HOW WE'VE BEEN TREATED BY THE OTHER CITIES, UM, AND HOW MUCH COURT SPACE WE HAVE. AND ALSO THE FACT THAT THERE'S NO ETHICS COMMITTEE ALREADY FOR THE PORT MM-HMM. , THERE'S NO LIMIT ON TERMS, AND THERE'S NO LIMIT ON TERM LIMITS. I THINK THAT'S REALLY UNFAIR FOR ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS TO REALLY ALWAYS HAVE TERM LIMITS, UM, AS A STARTER. UM, BUT DEFINITELY, YEAH, I FEEL LIKE NATIONAL CITY HASN'T BEEN TREATED WELL BY THE OTHER CITIES IN TERMS OF ITS PORT. I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE AS MUCH PORT SPACE AS THE OTHER CITIES. WE DEFINITELY DON'T HAVE A LOT OF RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES OR OPPORTUNITIES, UM, AS THE OTHER CITIES ON OUR PORT SPACE AND ON OUR PORT LANDS. AND I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE ARE ABLE TO AT LEAST TRY TO WORK IN SOME OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES. TRY TO MAYBE GET MORE FUNDING, TRY TO WORK IN MORE PORT OPPORTUNITIES, YOU KNOW, TO EITHER IMPROVE PEPPER PARK, MAYBE GET ACCESS TO THAT SLIVER OF BEACH SOMEHOW. MM-HMM. WORK IN SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S TERRIBLE AND AWFUL, AND IT'S AN EYESORE TO JUST SEE THOSE AUTO BOATS EVERY DAY, YOU KNOW, WONDERING WHY WE CAN'T HAVE THIS MANY OPPORTUNITIES AS THE OTHER CITIES. SO I'M IN SUPPORT OF PUTTING THIS ON THE AGENDA. UH, AND I THINK EVERYONE SHOULD THROW THEIR SUPPORT FOR THIS BILL. OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, EDO, WE FOLLOWED BY EDDIE PEREZ. YES. I'M ALSO IN SUPPORT OF PUTTING ASSEMBLY BILL, UH, 27 83 ON THE AGENDA. AND I WENT TO THE, UM, MEETING WITH DAVID ALVAREZ. I WENT TO THE CHULA VISTA. I, I LISTENED TO THE CHULA VISTA COUNCIL MEETING, AND I'VE DISCUSSED, UH, NOT DISCUSSED BY SEEING MAYOR MOR, UH, MORRISON'S, UH, FACEBOOK POSTING. AND, UM, AND I, I, I, I UNDERSTAND THE BALANCED PLAN APPROACH, BUT I'M, I'M JUST A REGULAR CITIZEN NOW. I DON'T KNOW THE INTRICACIES OF HOW THE SUPPORT COMMISSION AND HOW EVERYTHING WORKS. I NEED TO SEE THAT INFORMATION. I NEED TO HEAR, IT'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY, NOT ONLY FOR NOW, BUT FOR THE FUTURE. I UNDERSTAND. I SAW, I HEARD CHULA VISTA'S, UH, MANAGER, AND I HEARD THE COUNCIL PEOPLE [04:35:01] TALK WITH PASSION ABOUT DEFENDING THEIR, THEIR GAY LAW POSITION WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY HAVE TO, UH, SECURE THE FUNDING SOURCES FOR THEIR DEBT SERVICES, FOR, UM, FOR THE FUTURE BOND PAYMENTS. AND AT THAT EXPENSE. AND I UNDERSTOOD THAT THEY, THEY'RE COUNTING ON THIS MONEY, BUT WHAT ARE THEY, WHAT ARE THEY COUNTING ON FOR THE ECONOMIC BENEFIT OF THE SOUTH BAY AREA? BUT HOW DOES THAT, HOW DOES OUR NATIONAL CITY PLAN FOLD INTO THAT? WHERE DO WE GET, WHEN IS IT THAT WE GET OUR PORTION OF MONEY? AND IT WASN'T CLEAR. I MEAN, THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH ENOUGH DOUBT, UH, ANALYSIS. IT'S JUST THE MOST, MORE OF A, TRUST ME, I KNOW WHAT I'M DOING, BUT WHERE'S THAT ANALYSIS? WHERE DO WE SEE IT? YOU KNOW? AND I, I I, I NEED MORE INFORMATION IN ORDER TO FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. UH, AS A, AS A TAXPAYER, I HOPE THE CITY MANAGER, I HOPE THE CITY ATTORNEY, I HOPE THE COUNCIL GETS PASSIONATE LIKE THE CITY OF CHULA VISTA DID IN DEFENDING ITS POSITION THAT WE DEFEND OUR POSITION TOO. MM-HMM. . SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A PROBLEM THAT'S GONE FOR A LONG, LONG TIME AND WE NEED SOME SORT OF INFORMATION. AND MAYBE THERE IS A SOLUTION WITHOUT LKO. MAYBE THERE'S, UH, ANOTHER ORGANIZATION THAT MIGHT THANK YOU. NEXT WAS EDDIE PEREZ APPEARANCE. MIC ISN'T ON, DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN. ANYWAYS, YEAH, I'M JUST BASICALLY WANNA AGREE WITH, UH, THE LAST TWO SPEAKERS. UM, I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, UH, SHOULD GO ON THE AGENDA. AND, UH, I JUST THINK THAT, UM, I KNOW I'M TIRED OF THOSE OTHER CITIES. UH, I'M SURE THEY MEAN WELL IN, IN SOME RESPECTS, BUT I JUST THINK NATIONAL CITY HAS TO KIND OF STEP UP TO THE PLATE IN EIGHT YEARS. THAT, THAT WAS A LONG TIME, YOU KNOW, TO WAIT FOR THIS LAST, UM, REFERRING TO THE MAYOR'S, UH, FACEBOOK POST, WE DON'T WANNA WAIT. WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE TIRED WAITING. SO I, I THINK, UH, UH, IT'D BE GOOD TO HEAR, UM, WHAT, UH, THIS IS ALL ABOUT. SO THANK YOU. I, I WISH THERE WAS VENDORS OUT RIGHT NOW 'CAUSE I CAN USE SOMETHING TO EAT. . UH, LET'S GO TO OUR, OUR ZOOM SPEAKERS AND THEN WE'LL CONTINUE WITH THE IN-HOUSE. IN, UH, IN AUDIENCE ONES. JACQUELINE RENOSO, OR, SORRY, JA, UH, JANICE RENOSO. JANICE RENOSO. OKAY. KEEP IT ON THE PAGE. KATIE, JANICE RENOSO, CO-FOUNDER MUNDO GARDENS. I ALSO SIT ON THE AB SIX 17 FOR TIGHT STEERING COMMITTEE REPRESENTING OUR ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE COMMUNITY GARDEN ORGANIZATION. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT, YOU KNOW, CAN I, CAN I PAUSE UNTIL THE MAYOR'S ATTENTIVE, PLEASE? HE'S RIGHT HERE. I'M GONNA PAUSE. KEEP GOING. , GO AHEAD. OKAY. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT, UM, ANY AGENCY THAT IS PASSIONATE ABOUT NOT HAVING OVERSIGHT, UM, HAVE SOME OVERSIGHT. AND SO I'M, I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE ACCOUNTABILITY WE'RE SEEING WHAT ACCOUNTABILITY AND HUMILITY FROM, YOU KNOW, FUTURE AGENCY LEADERS, UH, WHEN THEY RECOGNIZE HISTORICAL HARM, WHAT CAN BE DONE. AN EXAMPLE OF THAT IS OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY AND NATIONAL CITY AND THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO, AND GETTING, UH, THE STATE TO COMMIT TO REINVESTING TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FROM DIVISIVE INFRASTRUCTURE. SO I FORESEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN THE FUTURE. FOR THE PORT SIDE, I THINK THAT AS FAR AS ACCESS TO WATERWAYS OR GREEN SPACE, IT IS A PRIORITY. IT IS CONCERNING TO HEAR, YOU KNOW, THAT PROFITS CONTINUE TO BE PUT OVER PEOPLE AS FAR AS SEEN AS A, AS A COMPETING, UM, FACTOR. IT COULD BE A YES. AND THERE STILL COULDN'T BE MARITIME INDUSTRY AND FAIR ACCESS AND TAKING CARE OF THE ENVIRONMENT. I REALLY URGE THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS ALSO COMES WITH, UM, COMMUNITY, UM, A SOCIAL EQUITY WORK GROUP, UH, TO OVERSEE OR TO BE A PART OF NATIONAL CITY AND THE PORT OF SAN DIEGO. I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WILL BE WORKED INTO THE BILL, BUT I THINK THAT WE CAN BE CREATIVE AND CHAMPION INNOVATIVE WAYS OF REPRESENTATION. WITH THAT SAID, I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO SEE NOT JUST THE COMMUNITY ACCESS, THE, THE BEACH, THE FUTURE BEACH, UM, THAT SHOULD BE RIGHTFULLY ACCESSED BY RESIDENTS AND, AND NEIGHBORS ALIKE, BUT ALSO HONORING AND HAVING IN THE COMMUNITY TASK FORCE OR THE EQUITY WORKING GROUP, UH, REPRESENTATION, TRIBAL, TRIBAL REPRESENTATION SINCE THESE WATERWAYS ARE ORIGINALLY STEWARDED OR HISTORICALLY, UH, STEWARDED BY INDIGENOUS KUMEYAAY LEADERS. AND SO I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE US BE FORWARD THINKING AND PROTECTING THE ENVIRONMENT, PROTECTING THANK YOU [04:40:01] PEOPLE OF COLOR AS WELL. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS SHARON CLOUD. GOOD EVENING AGAIN, UH, MAYOR MORRISON AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, SO THIS IS WHY I WAS REALLY HERE TONIGHT, WAITING UP SO LONG. SO AB 27 83 RIGHT NOW IS EXTREMELY FLUID. AND IN FACT, IF YOU LISTEN TO WHAT THE CHULA VISTA COUNCIL HAD ASKED FOR IS FOR A SECOND SEAT ON THE COMMISSION. AND THAT'S NOT GONNA HELP YOU GUYS VERY MUCH BECAUSE THEY WERE VERY, VERY VOCAL AND WORRIED ABOUT THE BONDING AND THE RATING THAT THE PORT HAS. YOU KNOW, THE PORT DOES NOT COLLECT TAX DOLLARS. I WANNA REMIND EVERYBODY THEY DO NOT COLLECT TAX DOLLARS. THE WAY THAT THEY MAKE THEIR MONEY IS THROUGH OUR TENANT'S RENTS. SO YOU CAN'T BUILD PARKS WITHOUT HAVING MONEY COME IN. SO, I MEAN, THE PORT BUILDS THESE PUBLIC AMENITIES BASED ON OUR TENANT'S RENTS THAT THEY COLLECT. SO YOU CAN'T HAVE IT ALL. SO, UM, I JUST WOULD STRONGLY URGE YOU TO WAIT BECAUSE AS I SAID, EVEN AT THE LOCAL COMMITTEE LEVEL, THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS MADE MANY, MANY SUGGESTIONS TO ASSEMBLY MEMBER ALVAREZ. IT'S GONNA CHANGE QUITE A BIT BEFORE HE EVEN GETS TO THE APRIL 23RD DATE, BECAUSE HE WAS ASKED TO MAKE QUITE A FEW CHANGES. YEP. SO I JUST THINK IT'S WAY, WAY TOO SOON FOR YOU TO HEAR, BECAUSE YOU DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THE BILL, WHAT YOU'RE VOTING ON, UM, JUST TOO SOON TO, TO MAKE A COMMENT. UM, WE FEEL THE SAME THING WITH THEIR WORKING WATERFRONT. AND I DO KNOW THE PORT PORT DOES HAVE AN ETHICS POLICY. THEY'VE HAD A VERY STRINGENT ONE. I REMEMBER WHEN STEVE CUSHMAN WAS THERE. THEY MADE IT VERY, VERY STRONG. AND I ALSO KNOW THAT, UM, THE CHAIR OF THE PORT HAS PUT TOGETHER AN AD HOC COMMITTEE HEAD BY OUR NEW COMMISSIONER, SID, THAT THEY'RE REALLY LOOKING AT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY CAN DO. I JUST DON'T THINK THAT LEGISLATION TO SET ETHICS IS PROBABLY THE RIGHT, RIGHT WAY TO GO. I'VE BEEN AROUND THIS JOB FOR 34 YEARS AND I'VE SEEN A LOT OF CHANGES. AND AGAIN, MY HEART GOES OUT TO NATIONAL CITY AND I, YOU'VE GOT MY COMMITMENT TO HELP YOU GET WHAT YOU NEED FOR YOUR CITY. BUT I THINK THERE'S ANOTHER WAY WE CAN DO IT. BUT I JUST, SERIOUSLY, RIGHT NOW, I JUST THINKING, HEARING THIS BILL RIGHT NOW IS GONNA CHANGE MULTIPLE TIMES. SO YOU'RE GONNA BE MAKING A DECISION ON SOMETHING AND IT'S GOING TO CHANGE AGAIN AND AGAIN. AGAIN. AND I WOULD LIKE YOU TO THINK ABOUT THAT SECOND SEAT ON THE COMMISSION. 'CAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S GONNA HELP YOUR CITY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SOPHIE SRE. GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. I SPOKE IN PERSON IN THIS COUNCIL CHAMBER AT ONE IN THE MORNING SEVERAL YEARS AGO, SO THAT EVENING STILL HAS THIS ONE BEAT. UM, MY NAME IS SOPHIE SYLVESTRI. I'M DIRECTOR OF COMMERCIAL AND EXTERNAL AFFAIRS FOR THE PAST GROUP. I'M REPRESENTING PAST AUTOMOTIVE SERVICES OPERATOR OF NATIONAL CITY MARINE TERMINAL FOR ALMOST 35 YEARS. UH, HUNDREDS OF UNION JOBS ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS TERMINAL. 300 OF THOSE DIRECT EMPLOYEES. UH, 75% OF THOSE FOLKS LIVE SOUTH OF THE 94. UH, PATIENT HAS CONCERNS, UM, AND QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS PROPOSED LEGISLATION, AS I PRESUME SOME OF YOU MAY AS WELL, UM, OUR OPERATIONS, AND THEREFORE HUNDREDS OF SOUTH BAY FAMILIES I JUST MENTIONED COULD BE ADVERSELY IMPACTED. HOWEVER, UM, THIS BILL IS VERY FLUID RIGHT NOW, UH, WITH SEVERAL AMENDMENTS ALREADY, AS WELL AS MORE LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEES THAT WILL LIKELY REVIEW THE BILL. AND WE BELIEVE IT'S PREMATURE FOR THE COUNCIL AS A BODY TO WEIGH IN ON THE STATE LEGISLATION DURING THIS ITERATIVE PROCESS. UH, SO JUST ECHOING SHARON'S COMMENTS THAT IT SEEMS TOO SOON. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO SPEAK AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR, UH, CONSIDERING OUR RECOMMENDATION. THANK YOU. THAT CONCLUDES THE ZOOM COMMENTS. OKAY. UH, WE NEXT WE HAVE, UH, KYLE. THERE HE IS. OKAY. IS IT SALA? YES. DID I ACTUALLY GET CLOSE TO IT? THAT'S PRETTY GOOD. OH, NOT BAD. OKAY. UH, GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL MEMBERS, MAYOR MORRISON, UM, AND EVERYONE ELSE HERE WHO'S STICKING THIS OUT. UH, KYLE HAYLA, ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH COALITION POLICY CO-DIRECTOR, UM, OUR ORGANIZATION, IF MANY OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH US, WE'VE WORKED FOR 40 YEARS ON CLEANING UP PORT OPERATIONS AND, UM, WE ORGANIZED COMMUNITY MEMBERS HERE IN WEST NATIONAL CITY TO ADVOCATE FOR STRONGER, UM, UH, CLEAN AIR. AND ALSO, UH, RECENTLY HAVE WON MAJOR VICTORIES AT THE PORT THROUGH THE M-C-A-S-A HUNDRED PERCENT ELECTRIC TRUCK GOAL. AND, UH, RECENTLY, UH, APPROVED NATIONAL CITIES GOING TO GET SOME OF THE FIRST, UH, ZERO EMISSION TRUCKS WITH THE FIRST ZERO EMISSION TRUCK STOP, UM, COMING TO THE REGION. SO ALL OF THIS WORK IS REALLY EXCITING. WE HAVE A LOT MORE WORK TO DO, INCLUDING FUNDING PEPPER PARK AND CONTINUING TO CLEAN UP A LOT OF THE OTHER PORT OPERATIONS. AND, UH, JUST WANTED [04:45:01] TO, UH, NOTE OUR POSITION REGARDING AB 27 83. WE'RE TAKING A NEUTRAL POSITION ON THIS BILL, UH, BECAUSE WHILE WE'RE SUPPORTIVE OF REFORMING THE PORT, WE BELIEVE THAT THIS BILL IS NOT THE MOST EFFECTIVE TOOL FOR DOING SO. UM, THIS BILL DOES NOT CURRENTLY ADDRESS AIR QUALITY OR IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE SIGNIFICANTLY FOR ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE COMMUNITIES IN THE WAY THAT WE THINK STATE LEGISLATION COULD. UM, WE TOLD ALVAREZ'S STAFF DIRECTLY THAT A TRANSITION TO ELECTRIC TRUCKS IS OUR BIGGEST CHALLENGE WE SEE AHEAD OF US. AND THIS BILL REMAINS SILENT ON THIS. SO, UH, WANT TO STRESS THAT. UH, EH C'S ALSO ON THE RECORD SPEAKING, UH, AGAINST HOW THE NATIONAL CITY COMMISSIONER WAS CENTERED LAST YEAR. UH, AND WE DON'T THINK THAT THIS BILL IS STRONG ENOUGH TO PREVENT SOMETHING LIKE THAT FROM HAPPENING AGAIN IN THE FUTURE. LOTS OF CHANGES ARE HAPPENING HERE AND, UH, WE REMAIN OPEN TO COLLABORATING WITH THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY. WE WANT TO BE MORE COLLABORATIVE WITH THE, UH, STATE LEGISLATURE TO DEVELOP A SOLUTION THAT CAN GET US TO CLEANER AIR AND STRONGER BENEFITS OF QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE COMMUNITIES. SO, LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU IN THE FUTURE ON THIS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, I'M NOT GONNA TRY TO MESS UP THIS, THE, UH, FIRST NAME. SO ESTRADA THERE. AJ? AJ. AJ. AJ. HUH? AJ. AJ. AJ. OKAY. WELL, YEAH, WELL, HE DIDN'T, HE SHOULD HAVE PUT THAT DOWN THERE INSTEAD OF HOW, HOW DO YOU SAY YOUR FIRST NAME? ANIL EMME. OKAY. UH, AJ. GO BY AJ. GOOD EVENING. PUT THAT ON THERE. NEXT TIME I'LL KNOW WHO YOU ARE. YES, SIR. GOOD EVENING, UH, MAYOR. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL. MY NAME IS ANED JAKE ESTRADA. AJ ESTRADA. I AM THE POLITICAL DIRECTOR FOR THE SAN DIEGO BUILDING AND CONSTRUCTION TRADES COUNCIL. REPRESENT 22 AFFILIATED UNION UNIONS, UH, 35,000 TRADE UNION WORKERS ACROSS SAN DIEGO COUNTY. UM, I'M HERE TODAY, UH, ASKING COUNCIL TO AND, AND THE MAYOR TO, UH, NOT TAKE UP AB 2 7 83 AT THIS TIME AS WRITTEN TODAY, PROVISION IN THIS BILL WOULD IMPACT A PROJECT THAT EMPLOYS OVER A THOUSAND OF OUR MEMBERS IN THE SOUTH BAY AND CHULA VISTA, JUST RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD ON A PROJECT, THE GAYLORD PACIFIC PROJECT. THAT IS GOING TO BE A HUGE ECONOMIC DRIVER FOR THIS REGION. IT ALREADY IS, UH, OF THOSE THOUSAND MEMBERS. SOME ALREADY LIVE HERE IN NATIONAL CITY, UH, WITH THEIR FAMILIES AS INCOMES. THEY'RE TAKING BACK TO THIS COMMUNITY. THERE'S AN AGREEMENT ON THAT FOR A FUTURE, FOR, UH, A FUTURE OPERATING AGREEMENT WITH OUR, WITH OUR UNITE HERE SIBLINGS, UH, IN THE, UH, IN THE HOTEL INDUSTRY. SO IT'S JUST, I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO NOT TAKE UP THIS BILL OR CONSIDERATION EVENTUALLY, UH, I'M ASKING YOU TO, AND I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO WAIT FOR SOME STATE LEGISLATOR TO PICK AND PINE OVER THIS BILL. I'M ASKING YOU TO WAIT UNTIL A LOCAL STAKEHOLDER, THE BUILDING TRADES LABOR IN GENERAL, OTHERS HAVE A CHANCE TO WORK WITH ASSEMBLY MEMBER ALVAREZ TO MAKE THIS BILL BETTER, TO FIND A WAY TO MAKE THIS BILL WORK, UH, TO FIND A WAY TO MOVE IT FORWARD. UM, WE HAVEN'T BEEN GIVEN THAT OPPORTUNITY YET. UH, I THINK THE FIRST TIME WE'VE REACHED OUT THE, I DON'T THINK FIRST TIME OUR, OUR BUSINESS MANAGER MANAGER HAD A TI A CHANCE TO TALK TO ASSEMBLY MEMBER ALVAREZ ABOUT THIS BILL WAS THE DAY IT CAME TO CHULA VISTA CITY COUNCIL. UM, OUR, OUR MEMBERS HAVE BUSINESS UP AND DOWN THE PORT, SO I, I WOULD REALLY LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, OUR MEMBERS WOULD REALLY LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH THE ASSEMBLY MEMBER ON THIS, TO, TO JUST TO MAKE IT BETTER. AND WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT OPPORTUNITY WE'RE IN TALKS TO, TO DO THAT. THAT HASN'T HAPPENED YET. BUT, UH, WE WILL KEEP TRYING. SO WE'RE ASKING YOU, PLEASE TO NOT HEAR THIS BILL AT THIS MOMENT, TO GIVE US TIME TO WORK ON IT. THANK YOU, AJ. NEXT WE HAVE, UH, BRIDGET BROWNING. NO, I WAS HERE BEFORE. AJ . UM, GOOD EVENING. UH, I, THIS IS A LITTLE DIFFICULT FOR ME, MARCUS, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. 'CAUSE I'M USED TO BEING ON THE SAME SIDE OF YOU, UM, ISSUES. AND TONIGHT I'M NOT. UM, WE DON'T SUPPORT ALVAREZ'S BILL. WE THINK IT'S VERY PROBLEMATIC. UM, I WANNA TALK ABOUT THE TERM LIMITS. 'CAUSE I KNOW AJ JUST TALKED ABOUT THE, THE PROBLEM WITH THE 1% FUND, HOW IT JEOPARDIZES, UH, GAYLORD, LIKE I'M THE VIEJA IN ALL OF THIS. I I STARTED WORKING ON GAYLORD WHEN STEVE PADILLA WAS THE MAYOR. YEP. YEAH. SO I'VE BEEN FOUR DIFFERENT MAYORS. MM-HMM. . UM, AND I HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT IF ANN MOORE HAD NOT BEEN REAPPOINTED, GAYLORD WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED. AGREED. I MEAN, I WAS THERE, I WAS IN THE TRENCHES. I FLEW WITH HER TO HOUSTON TO MAKE SURE RITA DIDN'T PULL OUT AFTER OH EIGHT. LIKE, HER ABILITY TO GET THAT PROJECT THROUGH WAS ONLY BECAUSE SHE HAD BEEN WORKING ON IT YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR. SO I THINK THE TERM LIMITS ARE REALLY PROBLEMATIC TOO. THE CITY COUNCILS CAN [04:50:01] END SOMEBODY'S TERM WHENEVER THEY WANT. YOU COULD SAY AFTER ONE TERM, YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU WEREN'T SERVING US WELL AND WE'RE GONNA GO IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION. UM, IT'S NOT, I THINK THE CITY COUNCILS, IF THEY'RE THINKING THAT THE PERSON'S DOING A GOOD JOB AND DELIVERING FOR THEIR CITY, I AGREE WITH YOU, IMPERIAL BEACH, THEY'VE DONE A GOOD JOB AT DELIVERING FOR THEIR CITY. BUT IF THEY WANNA REAPPOINT THEM, THEY, I THINK THEY SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO DO THAT. I, I DON'T THINK SOMEBODY ELSE SHOULD TELL THEM IF THEY CAN OR THEY CAN'T. UM, AND THE 1% IS REALLY, IS REALLY PROBLEMATIC. UM, I'VE OFFERED, I HAVE REALLY GOOD RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE PORT COMMISSIONERS. LIKE I UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT PASHA NEEDS TO HAVE A PARKING GARAGE. I THINK IF WE WERE ALL WORKING TOGETHER, LIKE WE COULD APPLY AND GET FEDERAL MONEY TO HAVE THAT HAPPEN SO THAT YOU CAN OPEN UP MORE OPEN SPACE, BUT ALSO PRESERVE THE UNION JOBS. UM, I'M HAPPY TO HELP IF I CAN, LIKE, Y'ALL SHOULD LET ME KNOW. UM, BUT YEAH, WE DON'T SUPPORT THIS BILL, SO WE DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD HEAR IT. THANK YOU. OKAY. UM, BRIDGET, ILL, UM, NEED TO SIT DOWN WITH YOU AND GO OVER THE BALANCE PLAN. I THINK YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THE THINGS YOU JUST SAID ARE ACTUALLY IN THAT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UM, I BELIEVE THAT'S ALL THE SPEAKERS THAT WE HAVE ON THIS ISSUE. AND OKAY. YEAH, JUST IN CLOSING, I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE SPEAKERS WHO CAME OUT TONIGHT. AND, UM, BRIDGETTE, I DON'T TAKE IT PERSONALLY. FULL DISCLOSURE, EVERYONE. BRIDGETTE ACTUALLY USED TO BE MY BOSS WHEN I WAS AT UNITE HERE AT LOCAL 30. SO, YOU KNOW, WE ALL DON'T, WE'RE NOT HERE TO ALL AGREE ON EVERY SINGLE ISSUE. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I STILL WOULD LIKE US TO HEAR THIS BILL BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I'M OPEN ON SOME OF THESE ISSUES LIKE, UH, TERM LIMITS. I, I STILL THINK THREE OR FOUR TERM LIMITS IS REASONABLE, BUT I'M OPEN ABOUT THAT. UM, I I ABOUT THE GAYLORD, UH, PROJECT AND CONCERNS, I THINK, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT DISCUSSING THE MERITS OF THE BILL, I'M JUST SAYING I THINK THAT THERE'S SOME WAY WE COULD TALK AND I DO APPRECIATE, UM, UH, UH, UH, BRIDGET, UM, YOU KNOW, SUPPORTING OUR, OUR EXPANDED ACCESS TO, TO THE WATERFRONT. SO I THINK, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THERE'S MORE COMMUNICATION, MORE WORK THAT, THAT WE CAN DO TOGETHER ON THIS. I STILL WANNA, YOU KNOW, BRING IT BACK FOR DISCUSSION BECAUSE YES, IT IS FLUID. UM, BUT I DO THINK WE NEED TO TAKE A, UH, A STAND. WE COULD DO A SUPPORT UNLESS AMENDED AND THEN TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THOSE, UH, THOSE ISSUES COMING UP. BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYONE WHO CAME IN HERE, UM, OR WHO JOINED US OVER ZOOM FOR, UM, FOR STAYING THIS LATE. UM, AND, UH, AND PARTICIPATING IN THIS DISCUSSION. UM, BUT I STILL, I STILL DO THINK WE, WE NEED TO, UH, TAKE A POSITION, UM, AND, AND HEAR ALL SIDES ABOUT THE BILL. THANK YOU. OKAY. MEMBER MOLINA. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY STAYING UP SO LATE. I KNOW IT'S DIFFICULT. I'M HAVING A HARD TIME HERE. UM, I I JUST WANNA LET YOU KNOW THAT IT IS REALLY DISHEARTENING TO SEE SUCH AN IMBALANCE IN THE RELATIONSHIP THAT NATIONAL CITY HAS WITH A BIG POWERFUL AGENCY THAT HAS BEEN AROUND FOR 60 YEARS. AND NATIONAL CITY GIVES SO MUCH AND RECEIVES SO LITTLE, AND THIS HAS HAPPENED. UH, SO AT LEAST 20 YEARS, YOU KNOW, IT'S TAKEN 20 YEARS TO GET THE BALANCE PLAN RIGHT. UM, THE, THE, THE REASON IT IS IMPORTANT TO DEMONSTRATE THAT NATIONAL CITY IS WILLING TO LEAD AT THIS CRITICAL POINT IS BECAUSE ENOUGH IS ENOUGH WITH THIS IMBALANCE IN THIS RELATIONSHIP. UH, THE BILL IS NOT PERFECT. AND, YOU KNOW, YOU SHOULD KNOW WHEN LAWS ARE GOING THROUGH THE COMMITTEES. UM, THEY CHANGE IT. NO, BILL STARTS OFF WITHOUT ANY CHANGES. AND I RECOGNIZE THE ARGUMENT THAT CHULA VISTA HAS MADE ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, NOT WANTING TO JEOPARDIZE ANYTHING HAVING TO DO WITH THE GAYLORD PROJECT. AND, AND, AND I, I COMPLETELY RESPECT CHULA VISTA STANDING UP FOR CHULA VISTA. WHAT I WANNA SEE, I WANNA SEE NATIONAL CITY STAND UP FOR NATIONAL CITY, AND THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO. AND I WILL REPEAT MY COMMENT THAT I MADE JUST EARLIER. IT IS UNDENIABLE THAT THE PORT HAS MISTREATED NATIONAL CITY FOR A LONG TIME AND BEING UNWILLING TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT WHEN WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO. GIVEN ALL OF THE ISSUES OF JUST THE PAST YEAR AND, AND KNOWING THAT THE GRAND JURY [04:55:01] HAS IDENTIFIED INDEPENDENTLY A LOT OF THE ISSUES THAT THIS BILL WOULD ADDRESS THERE, IT IS UNDENIABLE TO ME TO THINK THAT THIS IS NOT THE TIME FOR NATIONAL CITY TO SPEAK UP. AND, AND THAT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE. SO, UM, I REALIZE THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE POWER DYNAMICS, BUT I BELIEVE SO STRONGLY IN THE NEED FOR THE ETHICS REFORM THAT THIS BILL WOULD BRING TO THE PORT THAT I HAVE DECIDED TO ADVOCATE ON MY OWN. YOU KNOW, UH, I WISH I HAD THE BACKING OF MY CITY AS I AM TALKING TO FOLKS ABOUT THE NEED FOR THE BALANCE IN THIS RELATIONSHIP. AND THAT IS WHAT I'M ASKING FOR ALONGSIDE MEMBER BUSH IS BRING THIS BILL SO THAT WE CAN DISCUSS IT AS A MEMBER OF, YOU KNOW, A BODY OF FIVE MEMBERS AND TRULY GET BEHIND THE GOOD PARTS THAT WE WOULD ALL, YOU KNOW, THAT WE, WE WOULD ALL BE UNABLE TO DENY, WHICH IS ETHICS REFORM FOR THE PORT. UH, THAT IS MY BIGGEST CONCERN ABOUT THE THINGS THAT ARE PART OF THIS. AND YES, I THINK THERE WILL BE MANY CHANGES, UH, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT NATIONAL CITY HAS TO SIT BACK AND NOT PARTICIPATE. THAT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE TO ME. I THINK NATIONAL CITY SHOULD LEAD AND IT IS NECESS THIS IS THE TIME TO DO SO. SO, UH, MEMBER BUSH, IF YOU HAVE A MOTION, I WILL SECOND IT. WE ALREADY MADE A MOTION EARLIER. IT'S LATE THOUGH. YEAH. JAM MAYOR. YEAH, I'M, I I THINK WE HAVE NOT BEEN FOLLOWING THE POLICY, UH, 1 0 5, UH, , BUT I, I WILL NOT GO INTO THE MERITS OF THE ACTUAL, UM, BILL, BUT I, I, I WILL JUST SAY THAT I WILL VOTE NO ON IT AND I WILL EXPLAIN MYSELF FURTHER AT THE COUNCIL COMMENTS. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UM, I THINK, YEAH, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING 'CAUSE YEAH, IT'S, WE STILL HAVEN'T GOT A REAL GOOD HANDLE ON THE ONE OH FIVES, BECAUSE WHAT WE CAN KIND OF DISCUSS AND WHAT WE CAN'T, UM, OKAY. THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR, AND THAT IS TO, UM, HAVE THIS BROUGHT, BROUGHT AT A FUTURE COUNCIL MEETING. YOU SAID THE SOONER THE BETTER. YEAH. SPECIFICALLY IT WAS, UM, IT WAS, UH, A SPECIAL MEETING BEFORE THE, THE APRIL 24TH, BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN IT'S COMING BACK TO COMMITTEE. I'M OPEN TO AMENDING THAT, BUT YEAH. OKAY. OR WE CAN JUST CALL THE QUESTION IF THERE'S NO OTHER SUPPORT FOR THAT. UH, OKAY. WELL WE GOT THE, UH, WE, THE, THE MOTION IS OUT THERE. SO WE HAVE ROLL CALL PLEASE. COUNCIL MEMBER BUSH? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER RODRIGUEZ NAY. COUNCIL MEMBER MOLINA? YES. VICE MAYOR ANI. VICE MAYOR ANI, YOU'RE ON MUTE. YOU'RE MUTED. SORRY. NAY. MAYOR MORRISON. NAY. THREE, TWO FAILS. ALRIGHT, WE, UH, GO ON TO, WELL, WE'RE IN THE COUNCIL COMMENTS. SO OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS REPORT. I'LL START DOWN HERE WITH MEMBER RODRIGUEZ. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, UH, SEEING AS WE COULDN'T HAVE DISCUSSED, UH, THE PARTICULARS OF THE BILL, UM, THROUGH THE POLICY 1 0 5 REQUEST THAT I ACTUALLY MENTIONED WHY IT IS THAT I VOTED NO ON IT. SO I HAVE THE INTEREST OF NATIONAL CITY FAMILIES. FIRST AND FOREMOST. I HAVE THE INTEREST IN MY COMMUNITY, FIRST AND FOREMOST, AND I'VE BEEN SAYING FOR YEARS, AND I KNOW MANY INDIVIDUALS, INCLUDING THE MAYOR, OUR PREVIOUS PORT COMMISSIONER, UM, HAVE BEEN WORKING ON ISSUES REGARDING REVENUES TO, UH, THE LACK OF REVENUES FROM OUR PORT SIDE TENANTS AND DEVELOPMENT INTERNATIONAL CITY, AS WELL AS LACK OF ACCESS TO THE BAYFRONT, WHICH WE'RE THE ONLY CITY WITHOUT ACCESS. THOSE THINGS ARE WRONG. IT'S NOT, OKAY. THOSE DEALS THAT WERE MADE MANY YEARS AGO WERE NOT GOOD IN LOOKING OUT FOR THE BEST INTEREST OF NATIONAL CITY AND THE FUTURE OF NATIONAL CITY. SO THIS BILL DOESN'T ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES. IT DOESN'T, I HATE TO BREAK IT DOWN TO YOU THAT WAY, BUT IT DOESN'T, AND I SPOKE WITH ASSEMBLY MEMBER DAVID ALVAREZ, ALONGSIDE WITH VICE MARIA IMANI, WHEN BEFORE THEY PRESENTED THE BILL. AND I WAS VERY CLEAR THAT THESE WERE OUR ISSUES, UH, ALONGSIDE THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS FINANCIAL, THE LACK OF US RECEIVING REVENUE FROM PORT SIDE DEVELOPMENT, AS WELL AS ACCESS TO THE BAYFRONT. AND THOSE ISSUES, I FEEL SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN SOME BILLS. AND I THINK MY WORDS VERBATIM WAS, HEY, IF THEY'RE ON THERE, I'M A HUNDRED PERCENT ALL IN. BECAUSE THOSE ARE LOOKING OUT FOR THE INTEREST OF NATIONAL CITY RESIDENTS NOW AND IN THE FUTURE. UM, UNFORTUNATELY THOSE ITEMS DID NOT MAKE IT PART OF THE BILL, AND UNFORTUNATELY THERE WASN'T A BROADER DISCUSSION WITH EVERY [05:00:01] GROUP, UM, THAT HAS AN INTEREST IN THE PORT, WHICH I THINK WOULD'VE BEEN PRUDENT TO DO BEFORE PRESENTING A BILL AND JUST KIND OF AMENDING IT ON THE FLY. I THINK IT WOULD'VE BEEN WISE TO BRING FOLKS TOGETHER, UH, BEFOREHAND. AND AGAIN, I HATE TO BE SO BLUNT, BUT GUYS, WE SEE OTHER CITIES AND THE WAY THEY OPERATE AND THEY HAVE ENTIRE TEAMS THAT ARE WORKING AT THE PORT. MM-HMM. , YOU KNOW, WE MENTIONED ABOUT CHULA VISTA. UM, CHULA VISTA PARTIALLY PAID THROUGH A BOND FOR THE GAYLORD PROJECT. THAT MEANS THAT THEIR ELECTED OFFICIALS SAID, THIS IS GONNA BE ECONOMIC ENGINE FOR US AS A CITY AND AS A REGION, AND WE'RE GONNA PUT OUR MONEY WHERE OUR MOUTH IS. MEANWHILE, WE CAN'T GET A PROPOSITION TO FUND ALLEYS AND LIGHTING INTO THE BALLOT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO FOR POLITICAL REASONS. THAT IS AN EXAMPLE OF A CITY GETTING ITSELF TOGETHER AND SAYING, THIS IS GONNA BE AN ECONOMIC ENGINE FOR THE FUTURE AND WE'RE GONNA PUT OUR DIFFERENCES ASIDE BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA LOOK OUT FOR THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY. THAT'S WHAT CHULA VISTA DOES. SAN DIEGO IS NOW FACING A HUMONGOUS HURDLE WHEN IT COMES TO ADDRESSING THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE. AND GUESS WHAT? ON A DIME THEY'RE ABLE TO GET TOGETHER AND SAY, LET'S PUT SOMETHING ON THE BALLOT BECAUSE WE FIND THIS IMPERATIVE FOR THE FUTURE OF OUR CITY. THEY DO THAT. AND I'VE BEEN MENTIONING FOR MANY MONTHS NOW, IT'S, IT'S ALMOST A YEAR. THANK YOU FOR OUR CITY MANAGER THAT I KNOW HAS BEEN, UM, DEALING WITH THIS ISSUE AT THE PORT. BUT WE NEED TO ORGANIZE OURSELVES. WE NEED TO HAVE A TEAM, UM, THAT CONSTANTLY WORKS AROUND OUR PORT, AND WE DON'T HAVE IT YET BECAUSE WE DEAL WITH SO MANY, UH, OUTSIDE AND INSIDE DYSFUNCTIONS THAT OCCUR WITHIN OUR CITY THAT WE CANNOT FOCUS AND HAVE A TEAM, A STRUCTURED TEAM, TO CONTINUOUSLY WORK ON IT. WHETHER IT'S A TEAM OF CONSULTANTS ALONGSIDE STAFF, ALONGSIDE ATTORNEYS, ALONGSIDE, UH, LOBBYING EFFORTS. WE NEED TO DO THAT IN ORDER FOR US TO BE EFFECTIVE AS A CITY, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DELIVER FOR OUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE OUR COMMUNITY DESERVES IT. SO I, IT'S, IT'S 1120. I HATE TO BE THIS WAY, UH, BECAUSE I KNOW WE ALL WANNA GO HOME AND WE ALL HAVE FAMILIES TO GO TO. BUT I THINK, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE ARE JUST AS BLUNT AND AS HONEST AS POSSIBLE WHEN IT COMES TO THIS PARTICULAR BILL AND WHAT WE'RE FIGHTING FOR. AND I DON'T THINK IT'S OKAY TO, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, UM, TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, BEACHFRONT ACCESS AND THINGS THAT WE RIGHTFULLY DESERVE, AND EVERY COMMUNITY DESERVES THIS. BILL WON'T DELIVER THAT. SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO REALIZE WHAT'S IN THE ACTUAL BILL, AND EVEN HOW IT'S BEING AMENDED THAT'S NOT IN THERE. SO GUYS, IF WE'RE GONNA WORK ON IT, LET'S GET TOGETHER ON IT. LET'S CREATE A TEAM. LET'S ACTUALLY WORK ON THINGS TOGETHER, NOT JUST GO OUT ON A WHIM AND HOPE TO THINK CHANGE THINGS ALONG THE WAY. SO, AGAIN, SORRY TO BE SO BLUNT. IT'S SUPER LATE AT NIGHT. I DO HAVE ONE QUICK, ONE OTHER QUICK UPDATE. UM, HERE'S MY NOTES FOR THAT. UH, A COUPLE OF MARCH 28TH, UH, WE HAD OUR SECOND TO THIRD AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UH, WORKSHOP ALONGSIDE COMMUNITY HOUSING WORKS, AND I'M GLAD TO REPORT OVER 400 PEOPLE SHOWED UP. THANK YOU SO MUCH, CARLOS AND STAFF FOR HELPING WITH THAT. UH, COMMUNITY HOUSING WORKS DID A FANTASTIC JOB OF, UH, LETTING PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THE DETAILS OF HOW TO APPLY FOR THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UM, COMPLEX THAT IS OPENING UP HERE THIS SUMMER AND FALL. UH, YESTERDAY, UM, ALONGSIDE WITH THE HELP OF, UH, CINDY, WE HOSTED A MOBILE HOME, UH, RENTAL CONTROL, RENT CONTROL ORDINANCE INFORMATION WORKSHOP THAT TOOK PLACE YESTERDAY WITH OVER 40 RESIDENTS. UM, UH, THE LEGAL AID SOCIETY HELPED BREAK DOWN THE ACTUAL LAW, UH, AND ACE ALSO BROKE DOWN KIND OF THEIR ONGOING EFFORTS IN, UM, HERE IN NATIONAL CITY FOR TENANTS. SO, UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT AND FOR ALL THE RESIDENTS THAT ATTENDED. AND THEN ALSO A REMINDER THAT WE HAVE OUR LAST COMMUNITY HOUSING WORKS HAS THE LAST AFFORDABLE HOUSING WORKSHOP NEXT THURSDAY, UH, APRIL 25TH. UM, SO IF YOU OR ANYBODY YOU KNOW IS INTERESTED IN APPLYING FOR ONE OF THESE 145 UNITS, UM, UH, GO LEARN ON HOW TO APPLY. THANK YOU MAYOR RUSH. YEAH, THANKS EVERYONE FOR, UH, BEING HERE TONIGHT AND STAYING THE NIGHT. UM, I AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER RODRIGUEZ THAT WE DO NEED TO PUT A, A TEAM TOGETHER, UM, UH, A REALLY EFFECTIVE TEAM TO DE DEAL WITH THE PORT AND THE ISSUES. BUT I ALSO WANT TO BE BLUNT, AND I THINK THE REAL ISSUE HERE IS A LACK OF BOLD LEADERSHIP. THE ETHICS REFORM BILL ABSOLUTELY DOES ADDRESS THE BEACH. UM, AND IT DOES ADDRESS ALL THE ISSUES IN THE BALANCE PLAN. IT DOESN'T INDIRECTLY, AND IT, I DON'T THINK IT'S ACCEPTABLE. I DON'T WANT TO ACCEPT, AND I REFUSE TO ACCEPT FOR NATIONAL CITY TO HAVE TO WAIT EIGHT YEARS ON THE BALANCE PLAN OR 20 YEARS ON THE BALANCE PLAN. I AM A CITY PLANNER, AND I TELL YOU, IT DOES NOT TAKE THAT LONG. THE REASON WHY IT'S TAKEN THAT LONG, IN MY OPINION, IS IT'S BECAUSE IT'S BEEN INTENTIONAL, BECAUSE THE PORT GAINS FROM KEEPING US DOWN AS A CITY. AND I DON'T THINK THAT WORKING WITH THEM AND, UH, DOING WHAT THE PORT WANTS [05:05:01] TO DO, BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE COULD HAVE TAKEN AN ACTION TONIGHT. WE COULD, WE, THERE'S TWO OPPORTUNITIES TO TAKE ACTION, AND WE REFUSE TO TAKE ACTION TONIGHT, AND THAT'S OKAY. WE'RE PART OF, YOU KNOW, A TEAM, PART OF A COUNCIL. WE'RE GONNA HAVE, UM, DISAGREEMENTS, BUT I WANT TO CHANGE OUR APPROACH TO HOW WE DEAL WITH THE PORT, HOW WE DEAL WITH HOSTILE ENTITIES THAT THREATEN US, THAT TRY TO KICK OFF OUR POOR COMMISSIONER. THAT THAT WASN'T EVEN REALLY DISCUSSED. AND ALL THE SPEAKERS, I DIDN'T REALLY HEAR MUCH ABOUT THE ETHICS PART OF IT. YES, THE, ALL OF THOSE ISSUES THAT WE COULD HAVE TALKED ABOUT, UM, WITH THE, WITH THE CHULA VISTA BAYFRONT, WE COULD HAVE DISCUSSED THEM BY TAKING ACTION, BUT WE CHOSE AS A BODY NOT TO DO THAT. SO THE REASON WHY WE DON'T HAVE OUR FAIR SHARE OF PUBLIC SAFETY DOLLARS, IN MY OPINION, AND WE DON'T HAVE A BEACHFRONT ACCESS, AND WHY THERE'S STILL THE HIGHEST RATES OF CANCER AND ASTHMA, IS BECAUSE WE CONTINUE TO SAY, HEY, WELL, LET'S HOPE THAT THE PORT WORKS WITH US. LET'S NOT TAKE ACTION. AND I WANTED TO CHANGE THAT. SO I'M OPEN TO WORKING WITH ALL MY COLLEAGUES ABOUT IT. IT'S NOT ABOUT INSTANT GRATIFICATION, AS YOU SAID IN THE MAYOR. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IN THAT PARTICULAR POST, BECAUSE I KNOW EVEN WITH THIS BILL, THIS IS NOT GONNA THE END ALL BE ALL. LAFCO IS NOT THE END ALL BE ALL, BUT WE DO HAVE TO AT SOME POINT STAND UP AND, AND FIGHT FOR OUR CITY. AND THAT'S, THERE'S TWO OPPORTUNITIES TO DO THAT. WE DIDN'T WANT TO, AS A BODY, THAT'S OKAY. UM, BUT I'M GONNA KEEP THE FIGHT, UM, THE FIGHT UP, UM, YOU KNOW, ADVOCATING EVERY WAY. I CAN STILL WANNA WORK WITH OUR, OUR, OUR COUNCIL, OUR STAFF, AND I HOPE THEY WORK WITH OUR POOR COMMISSIONER IN BUILDING THIS TEAM, LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER RODRIGUEZ WAS SAYING. BUT NOTHING, POWER DOESN'T JUST SEED ITSELF TO US. LIKE, SO WE, EVERYONE AGREES THAT, THAT WE ARE DISENFRANCHISED AND IT'S NOT JUST GONNA BE HANDED TO US. SO I THINK WE NEED TO CHANGE OUR APPROACH, BUT I HOPE THAT OUT OF THIS, THAT THERE IS SOME MORE POSITIVE I, UM, DIFFERENT IDEAS THAT WE HAVE AND MORE IMPORTANT THAN IDEAS AND WORDS IS ACTION. SO I HOPE WE DO TAKE ACTION. THANK YOU. UM, MEMBER ANI, TWO 30 IN THE MORNING THERE. HAVE FUN. UM, THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, AS ALWAYS, AFTER, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER MOLINA, SO I WAS NOT WERE YOU ON THAT SIDE TONIGHT? OKAY. UM, I THINK WHEN YOU TAKE CARE OF THE BUSINESS OF OUR CITY, YOU GO IN A CONFERENCE ROOM OR IN A BOARDROOM WITH THAT AGENCY THAT YOU ARE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WANTING TO DO BUSINESS WITH YOU DON'T OVERREACH TO OTHER OUTSIDE ENTITIES, BUT INSTEAD TAKE CARE OF THE BUSINESS WITH THE AGENCY THAT YOU THINK, UH, WE'RE HAVING A PROBLEM. YES, THERE WERE OVERSIGHTS, BUT THERE'S NO LEADERSHIP. UM, THERE ARE STAKEHOLDERS THAT UNDERSTANDS DUE TO THE OUTREACH OF THE MAYOR, UM, TO THE PORT TENANTS ASSOCIATION, THE PRESIDENT CEO SAID, WE WILL BE THERE. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WHAT IS THE PROBLEM? UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I ALWAYS SAY IN BUSINESS, IF YOU ARE NOT AT THE TABLE, YOU ARE ON THE MENU. AND THAT'S JUST MY, MY, UM, BUSINESS PRINCIPLE. YOU KNOW? I MEAN, YOU TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS FOR OUR PEOPLE, FOR US, FOR THE CITY, AND FOR OUR PEOPLE. I PLEDGE TO SERVE THE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THAT'S IT. I WORK HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT I DELIVER MY DELIVERABLES TO THE PEOPLE I PLEDGE TO SERVE. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I TALK TO, UM, THE LEADERSHIP OF THE, OF THE PORT COMMISSION. THEY'RE WILLING TO SIT DOWN. I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE, WE'RE A PORT CITY. THERE'S, THERE'S FIVE OF, WE'RE ONE OF THE FIVE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THEY HAVE OTHER, YOU KNOW, DELIVERABLES TO THE OTHER CITIES. BUT WE HAVE TO, TO, UM, COME TO THE TABLE AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, YOU NEED TO DELIVER THIS TO US TOO. YOU KNOW? I MEAN, I TALKED TO OUR CITY MANAGER WITH REGARDS TO HOW WE DEAL BUSINESS WITH THE PORT. HE, HE GATHERED ALL HIS DIRECTORS WITH A, UH, WITH A LEGAL, UM, COUNCIL THAT IS SPECIFIC TO PORT, UH, BUSINESS. AND WE WERE THERE IN ONE BIG ROOM TRYING TO YOU, UM, ADDRESS HOW ARE WE GONNA, HOW ARE WE GONNA PRESENT THIS WHITE PAPER TO THE PORT SO THEN THEY CAN UNDERSTAND, HAVE THE NEW LEADERSHIP WILL HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WAS OVERLOOKED. UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT, IT, IT IS, IT IS VERY, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT COMFORTABLE. UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, DOING AN OUTREACH TO [05:10:01] OTHER AGENCIES WHO ARE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WHO ARE, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE WE'RE OVERREACHING OUR, OUR, UM, OUR, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN RESPONSIBILITIES. I THINK OUR RESPONSIBILITY IS TO SIT DOWN AND HAVE A GOOD, UH, CONVERSATION WITH THE PORT AND, UM, WORK WITH THEM AS A CITY, WITH OUR CITY MANAGER AND THE TEAM THAT HE HA THAT HE HAS, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, SLOWLY FORMED, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THERE IS A WHITE PAPER THAT THE CITY MANAGER HAS DONE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, HE'S NOT BRINGING IT TO ALL OF US BECAUSE HE'S STILL WORKING WITH THE, WITH THE DEPARTMENT HEADS, UM, HOW THEY'RE GONNA PRESENT IT PROPERLY. WHAT SERVICES ARE, ARE WE OVERLOOKED AT? AND THIS, THE, THE CHAIRMAN HIMSELF SAID, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA SIT DOWN. WE'RE GONNA TAKE CARE OF THIS. THIS IS HOW WE DO BUSINESS. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, TAKE CARE OF OUR BUSINESS. AND IT'S REALLY NOT PERSONAL, YOU GUYS, IT'S, IT'S JUST TAKING CARE OF THE BUSINESS OF OUR CITY. AND THAT IS OUR FIDUCIARY. NOTHING ELSE. UM, MR. MAYOR, I JUST WANTED TO, UM, TO, UM, CONTINUE WITH MY, UM, YOU KNOW, I WANTED TO PLUG MY, UH, YOU KNOW, THE CLEANUP AT THE DISTRICT THREE ON FOUR 20. UM, IT'S NOT THE FOUR 20 THAT YOU THINK, UH, IT'S A CLEANUP FOR DISTRICT THREE. UM, I ALSO WANTED TO, UH, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, UH, DIRECT OUR CITY MANAGER TO LOOK INTO THE ADUS, THOSE, UM, RESIDENTS THAT ARE HAVING A PROBLEM. I THOUGHT WE TOOK CARE OF THAT ALREADY. UM, AS WELL AS THE PREDATORY TOBACCO SALE. I'M SURE YOU CAN WORK WITH CITY, WITH OUR CITY, WITH OUR CHIEF. UM, I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO ASK, UM, LAST MEETING I REQUESTED FOR A REPORT THAT WAS, UH, PROVIDED BY, UM, DIRECTOR, UM, CARLOS AGUIRE AND, UM, AND, UH, WALTER AMITY. I REQUESTED THAT THAT BE, UM, PLACED ON OUR WEBSITE OR WHEREVER IT CAN BE EASILY. UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN EASILY, UM, READ OR, OR, UH, POSTED. SO THEN, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, OUR RESIDENTS AND, AND, UH, PEOPLE WHO ARE ASKING UNDERSTANDS WHAT WE HAVE, UM, WHAT WE HAVE WORKED ON AND CONTINUE TO, UM, TO WORK ON TO, UH, TO, WITH REGARDS TO THIS, UM, TO THIS, UH, YOU KNOW, REPORT ABOUT THE STORM, UM, CITY MANAGER, YOU HAVE A REPORT, AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALWAYS GIVING US AN, AN UPDATE ON, UM, WHAT YOU'RE DOING, UH, THE WORK THAT YOU DO FOR THE CITY, UM, WITH YOUR, UM, WITH YOUR, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH THE STAFF. UM, THERE ARE A LOT OF, UH, PRA REQUESTS. I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, UNDERSTAND, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WHAT THOSE ARE AND WHAT THE CITY IS, WHAT'S, WHAT, UM, CAUSED THE CITY IS BEARING ON THAT. UM, UM, ON THAT, UH, PRA REQUEST, I, I UNDERSTAND THERE'S, UM, SEVERAL OF THEM. UM, I ALSO WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO FOLLOW UP, UH, WITH THE CHIEF ON THE PROGRAM, UPDATE ON THE GRANT ON SECURITY. UM, YOU, I MEAN, WE WOULD LIKE TO, UM, TO GET AN, I WOULD LIKE TO GET AN UPDATE ON THAT. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I LIKE TO BE CONSISTENT WHEN WE OPEN IT. EITHER WE GET AN UPDATE AND THEN WE CLOSE IT. SO THEN THERE ARE, THERE ARE RESULTS. UM, I THINK, UM, THAT IT IS, THAT'S IT FOR ME, MAYOR. IT'S TWO 30. I HAVE A SEVEN 30 CALL, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY. MEMBER MOLINA, THANK YOU. UH, THANK YOU EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM. THANK YOU TO STAFF. I KNOW YOU WORK SO INCREDIBLY HARD. I WON'T KEEP YOU MUCH LONGER. THANK YOU. OKAY. UH, JUST REAL QUICK, UM, YOU KNOW, COUPLE OF THINGS. UH, THERE IS A TEAM THAT HAS BEEN PUT TOGETHER, UH, RALPH HICKS AND A NUMBER OF OTHERS THAT ARE WORKING, THAT PUT TOGETHER THE WHITE PAPER AND EVERYTHING ELSE ON THE PORT. UH, AND THAT ARE MEETING ON A REGULAR BASIS, NOT ONLY WITH OUR STAFF, BUT ALSO WITH PORT STAFF. AND WE ARE CONTINUING TO HAVE, UH, MONTHLY AND MORE OFTEN, MORE OFTEN THAN THAT, MEETINGS WITH THE PORT TO, UH, MAKE SOME OF THESE THINGS HAPPEN. YOU KNOW, I, I'VE, AS YOU WERE MENTIONING, UH, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN HAVING MY BATTLES DOWN THERE WITH THE PORT FOR 30 YEARS NOW, AND, UH, UH, BEEN CALLED A LOT OF NAMES, EVERYTHING ELSE DOWN THERE THROUGH THE YEARS AND LOT UP LEGISLATION ALSO, AND, UH, UH, TO DEAL, DEAL WITH SOME OF THEIR ISSUES. THE, UH, AND I THINK I CAN HONESTLY SAY THAT WE ARE PROBABLY RIGHT NOW IN ONE OF OUR, ACTUALLY OUR BETTER POSITIONS, NOT, YOU KNOW, THAN WHAT WE HAVE HAD IN YEARS PAST. UM, WE'RE GETTING MORE COOPERATION FROM [05:15:01] PEOPLE THERE RIGHT NOW THAN WHAT WE'VE HAD IN I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY YEARS. UM, SO I DON'T WANT US TO FORGET THAT JUST BECAUSE WE AREN'T GETTING EVERYTHING WE WANT AT THIS MOMENT, THAT WE THROW THAT AWAY BECAUSE THAT'S NOT GONNA GET, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE TRY TO, YOU KNOW, TRY TO OVERCOME THE STUFF OF THE PAST AND TRY TO START WORKING WITH YOU, AND THEN YOU THROW IT BACK IN THEIR FACE TOO MUCH, UH, YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET ANYWHERE AT ALL. AND, UH, SO, OKAY. QUIET BACK THERE. ALRIGHT. UM, SO AS I SAY, I, I THINK THAT WE'VE GOT A LONG WAYS TO GO, BUT I THINK WE'VE COME A LONG WAYS ALSO. AND IT HAS BEEN, UH, A LITTLE LESS THAN 10 YEARS IN THE BALLOTS PLAN. IT WAS DECEMBER OF, OF 2014, AND, UH, BUT THEN FOR A WHILE, FOR A FOUR YEAR PERIOD, IT WAS NOT A PRIORITY. SO WE'VE, WE'VE PICKED IT BACK UP AND WE'RE, WE'RE MAKING IT HAPPEN NOW. UM, AND AS I SAY, WE'RE GONNA GONNA CONTINUE. UH, AND AS I SAY, UH, MY, MY ISSUE WITH THE BILL, AND I'LL JUST SAY THIS AND LEAVE IT AT THAT, IS A LOT OF BILLS YOU CAN AGREE WITH THEM OR DISAGREE WITH THEM, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, SIGN ON WITH 'EM OR SIGN OFF OF THEM EARLY ON IN THE PROCESS, AND THEN THEY GET DOWN TO THE END AND THEY MAKE MIDNIGHT SAUSAGE. THIS ONE KIND OF STARTED OUT AS MIDNIGHT SAUSAGE, AND SO IT'S GOT A LONG WAYS TO GO. AND I THINK IF WE WAS TO AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH RIGHT, WE WOULDN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT WE'RE AGREEING OR DISAGREEING WITH. AND, UH, I DO BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE, THE ASSEMBLYMEN, UH, TO MAKE THIS SOMETHING MEANINGFUL AND NOT JUST A LIST, LIST OF GRIPES, BUT SOMETHING REALLY MEANINGFUL THAT CAN MAKE A, MAKE A SUBSTANTIAL DIFFERENCE. AND I'D LIKE TO SEE A GREAT, GREAT PIECE OF LEGISLATION COME OUT OF THIS THAT WE COULD ALL SUPPORT. BUT, UH, THAT'S GONNA TAKE TIME, THAT'S GONNA TAKE SOME EFFORT, UH, TO MAKE ALL THAT HAPPEN, DEALING WITH A LOT, A LOT OF PLAYERS. WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO, UH, ANY CITY ATTORNEY REPORT. I HAVE A LONG ONE, SO IF YOU WANNA TAKE A BREAK FIRST, WE CAN. UH, YEAH. NOTHING TO REPORT. ALL RIGHT, THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO HEAR. ALRIGHT, WE ARE NOW ADJOURNED TO OUR NEXT MEETING, WHICH WILL BE ON, UH, MAY THE SEVENTH. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.