* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:01] OKAY, [Call To Order] , WE DO HAVE A QUORUM, SO WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND WE HAVE A QUORUM. SO WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND START THE MEETING TONIGHT NOW. OKAY. UM, I HEREBY CALL THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF NATIONAL, CITY OF APRIL 1ST, 2024 AT 6:00 PM TO ORDER A LIVE WEBCAST OF THIS MEETING MAY BE VIEWED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE AT HTTPS SLASH SLASH WWW NATIONAL CITY CA.GOV/WEBCAST. THE NOTICE AGENDA AND INFORMATION ON THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY'S WEBSITE INFORM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT THEY MAY SUBMIT PUBLIC COMMENT ON A SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEM IN A NUMBER OF WAYS. FIRST, BY EMAIL AT PLC COMMENT, I'M SORRY, P-L-C-P-U-B, COMMENT@NATIONALCITYCA.GOV NO LATER THAN TWO HOURS BEFORE THE MEETING. SECOND VIA ZOOM BY PRE-REGISTERING ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE, NO LATER THAN TWO HOURS BEFORE THE MEETING AT HTTPS SLASH SLASH WWW NATIONAL CITY CA.GOV/PUBLIC COMMENT. THIRD, THE PUBLIC CAN PROVIDE COMMENTS IN PERSON AT THE MEETING. ALL WRITTEN COMMENTS RECEIVED WILL BE DISTRIBUTED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS AS APPROPRIATE PRIOR TO THEIR RESPECTIVE MEETINGS AND PUBLISHED ON THE CITY WEBSITE. IF RECEIVED BY THE DEADLINE, I REQUEST THE PLANNING COMMISSION SECRETARY NOW PROCEED WITH ROLL CALL. UM, ARE WE GONNA DO PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE FIRST? YES. PLEDGE OF ALL CHAIR MILLER. WE JUST NEED TO DO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE FIRST. OH. 'CAUSE ON, ON THE SCRIPT. IT'S, THAT'S COMING NEXT. OH, NO, HE'S CORRECT. IT'S JUST MIXED TODAY. YES. OKAY. SO WE'LL DO COMMISSIONER VICE CHAIR CASTLE CASTLE. HERE. COMMISSIONER MENT. HERE. COMMISSIONER ES HERE. COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ. HERE. COMMISSIONER FOREMAN PRESENT. COMMISSIONER VALENZUELA. ABSENT AND CHAIR MILLER PRESENT. I WILL NOW HAVE COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. PLEASE STAND ALL TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. BEFORE GOING ANY FURTHER, I WANT TO WELCOME COMMISSIONER FOREMAN TO THE NA, TO THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY PLANNING COMMISSION. WELCOME. SHE'S OVER HERE TO MY LEFT. YOUR RIGHT AT THE VERY END. OKAY. UH, WE'LL MOVE INTO THE ITEMS [1. Approval of Excused/Unexcused Absence of Commissioner Valenzuela on March 18, 2024] NOW. ITEM ONE IS FOR THE APPROVAL OF AN EXCUSED OR UNEXCUSED ABSENCE OF COMMISSIONER VALENZUELA FROM THE MARCH 18TH, 2024 MEETING. I DISCLOSED THAT COMMISSIONER VALENZUELA HAD NOTIFIED MADAME SECRETARY OF HER ABSENCE FROM MARCH 18TH, 2024 MEETING DUE TO BEING IN EUROPE UNTIL APRIL 22ND, 2024. IF THERE IS NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO EXCUSE OR NOT EXCUSE. COMMISSIONER VALENZUELA'S ABSENCE PLEASE. IN YOUR MOTION STATE WHAT YOU CHOOSE IN THE MOTION, EITHER EXCUSED OR UNEXCUSED. DO I HAVE A MOTION? COMMISSIONER ARMENTA, IS IT EXCUSED OR UNEXCUSED? IT'S EXCUSED. THANK YOU. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ARMENTA AND A SECOND BY VICE CHAIR CASTLE TO EXCUSE, EXCUSE ME. COMMISSIONER VALENZUELA FROM THE MARCH 18TH, 2024 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. THE COMMISSION WILL NOW VOTE ELECTRONICALLY ON THE MOTION. MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE DECLARE THE RESULTS OF THE VOTE. MOTION APPROVED ANONYMOUSLY WITH COMMISSIONERS PRESENT. THANK YOU. [2. Approval of Excused/Unexcused Absence of Commissioner Valenzuela on April 1, 2024] I DISCLOSED THAT COMMISSIONER VALENZUELA HAS NOTIFIED MADAM CH UH, EXCUSE ME, MADAM SECRETARY OF HER ABSENCE FROM THE APRIL 1ST, 2024 MEETING DUE TO BEING IN EUROPE UNTIL APRIL 22ND, 2024. [00:05:03] IF THERE IS NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO EXCUSE OR NOT EXCUSE. COMMISSIONER VALENZUELA. AND, UH, IS THAT FOR EXCUSE? MOTION TO EXCUSE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UH, WE HAVE A MOTION BY VICE CHAIR CASTLE AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ARMIN TO EXCUSE, UH, COMMISSIONER VALENZUELA FROM THE APRIL 1ST, 2024 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. THE COMMISSION WILL NOW VOTE ELECT ELECTRONICALLY ON THE MOTION. MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE DECLARE THE RESULTS OF THE VOTE. MOTION APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY WITH COMMISSION'S PRESENT. THANK YOU. WE WILL NOW MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENTS ON ITEMS OR MATTER MATTERS THAT ARE NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA UNDER STATE LAW. WE CANNOT RESPOND TO PUBLIC COMMENTS AND ITEMS REQUIRING PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION. THESE ITEMS MUST BE BROUGHT BACK ON A SUBSEQUENT AGENDA UNLESS THEY ARE OF A DEMONSTRATED EMERGENCY OR URGENT NATURE. MADAM SECRETARY, ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS NOT RELATED TO TONIGHT'S AGENDA? NO. COMMISSIONER OR NO CHAIR MILLER. THANK YOU. WE WILL NOW BEGIN CONSIDERATION OF ITEMS ON TONIGHT'S REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA. [3. Approval of the Agenda for the Meeting on April 1, 2024.] ITEM THREE IS FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA OF THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF APRIL. FIRST, IF THERE'S NO DISCUSSION FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS, DO I HEAR A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE? WE HAVE A MOTION BY VICE CHAIR CASTLE AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ TO APPROVE THE AGENDA. THE COMMISSION WILL NOW VOTE ELECTRONICALLY. MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE DECLARE THE VOTE. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH, UH, COMMISSIONERS PRESENT. THANK YOU. ITEM FOUR ON [4. Approval of Minutes from the Meeting of December 4, 2023.] TONIGHT'S AGENDA IS FOR THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF DECEMBER 4TH, 2023. IF THERE IS NO DISCUSSION, DO I HAVE A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE? WE HAVE A MOTION BY VICE CHAIR CASTLE AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF DECEMBER 4TH, 2023. THE COMMISSION WILL NOW ELECTRONICALLY VOTE. EXCUSE ME. COMMISSIONER FOREMAN, MAY YOU VOTE? OKAY. UH, MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE DE DECLARE THE RESULTS OF THE VOTE. MOTION CARRIED BY FIVE YESES. ONE ABSTAIN AND ONE ABSENT. THANK YOU. ITEM [5. Approval of Minutes from the Meeting of March 18, 2024.] FIVE ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA IS FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF MARCH 18TH. IF THERE IS NO DISCUSSION, DO I HAVE A MOTION? WE HAVE A MOTION BY COM. UH, VICE CHAIR CASTLE AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ARMENTA TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF MARCH 18TH, 2024. WE WILL NOW VOTE ELECTRONICALLY. MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE DECLARE THE RESULTS OF THE VOTE. MOTION CARRIED BY FIVE YESES. ONE ABSTAIN, ONE ABSENT. THANK YOU. THIS IS THE TIME AND PLACE FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS. UH, WE [6. Public Hearing – Determination that the project is categorically exempt from the California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA) under Class 3 of the CEQA guidelines Section 15303 (New Construction or Conversion of Small Structures) and Zone Variance to allow a new single-family home to deviate from requirements for minimum lot area, minimum yard setbacks, the location of parking spaces, and maximum height on East 4th Street.] WILL NOW CONSIDER ITEM NUMBER SIX, A CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING. UH, WE NEED TO MAKE THE DETERMINATION THAT, THAT THE PROJECT IS CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT FROM THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT. CQA UNDER CLASS THREE OF THE CA GUIDELINES SECTION 1 53 0 3. NEW CONSTRUCTION OR CONVERSION OF SMALL STRUCTURES AND ZONE VARIANCE TO ALLOW A NEW SINGLE FAMILY HOME TO DEVIATE FROM REQUIREMENTS OF THE MINIMUM LOT AREA, MINIMUM YARD SETBACKS, THE LOCATION OF PARKING SPACES AND MAXIMUM HEIGHT ON A VACANT LOT, UH, ON VACANT PROPERTY LOCATED ON EAST FOURTH STREET. I HERE PIKE, I HEREBY CALL THIS PUBLIC HEARING TO ORDER. BEFORE WE BEGIN, DO ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY DISCLOSURES RELATING TO THIS HEARING? THIS IS EACH PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S OPPORTUNITY TO DISCLOSE ANY CONFLICTS OF INTEREST, PROPERTY INSPECTIONS, EX PARTE CONTACTS OR COMMUNICATIONS, ET CETERA. I, I WAS WALKING BY THERE THE OTHER DAY, SO I WALKED RIGHT IN FRONT OF IT AND I STOPPED AND I LOOKED. OKAY. THANK YOU. I LOOKED 'CAUSE THAT'S WHERE I WALK. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS? YES, [00:10:04] I HAVE DRIVEN BY AND ACTUALLY DID A SITE INSPECTION AS WELL. THANK YOU AS WELL. I HAVE DRIVEN BY AND DONE THE SITE INSPECTION. OKAY. UM, COMMISSIONER. OKAY. I ALSO DROVE BY AND DID A SITE INSPECTION AS WELL AS LOOK ON GOOGLE EARTH AT THE PROPERTY. UH, MADAM SECRETARY HAVE THE NOTICES IS REQUIRED BY LO AND GIVEN AND DO WE HAVE A COMPLETE FILE OF EXHIBITS, CORRESPONDENCE AND OTHER DOCUMENTS? YES, CHAIR. THANK YOU. WILL STAFF PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND SUMMARIZE THE ITEM FOR US. GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. MY NAME IS DAVID WELCH WITH THE PLANNING DIVISION. UH, ITEM SIX IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR HIS OWN VARIANCE FOR A NEW SINGLE FAMILY HOME TO BE LOCATED ON A VACANT PROPERTY ON EAST FOURTH STREET. UH, STAFF WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT THIS ITEM WAS CONTINUED AT THE LAST MEETING, UH, TO ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO BE AVAILABLE AND THEY ARE HERE TONIGHT. SO I WILL, UH, GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION AGAIN. WE DO HAVE A NEW COMMISSIONER, SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THE INFORMATION IS THERE. SO THE SITE CHARACTERISTICS, THIS IS ON EAST FOURTH STREET BETWEEN, UH, INTERSTATE 8 0 5 AND T AVENUE. IT'S ZONED RS TWO, WHICH IS SMALL LOT RESIDENTIAL. THE PROPERTY IS 2,285 SQUARE FEET. IT IS TRIANGULAR IN SHAPE, UM, AND IT IS ESSENTIALLY A REMNANT PARCEL FROM WHEN THE HIGHWAY WAS CONSTRUCTED. UM, IT DOES HAVE 50 FEET OF STREET FRONTAGE, UH, BUT IT'S, IT'S ESSENTIALLY A SUBSTANDARD LOT WITH A CONSTRAINED BUILD BUILDABLE AREA. THE SURROUNDING AREA IS RES RESIDENTIAL IN NATURE. UM, MOSTLY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES NEARBY. UH, EL TOYO PARK IS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET AND IT'S ALSO ABUTTING THE, THE I 8 0 5 FREEWAY RIGHT AWAY. HERE'S THE OVERHEAD OF THAT. YOU CAN SEE THE, THE HOMES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, NEXT DOOR AS WELL AS THE PARK ACROSS THE STREET AND THE FREEWAY RIGHT AWAY. AND A PHOTO OF THE LOT. UM, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE SIZE OF IT AND THE, UH, SHAPE WITH THE FENCE LINE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE THERE. AND THE, UM, ALSO THERE'S AN EXISTING CURB CUT THAT COULD BE USED FOR A DRIVEWAY. SO THE PROPOSAL IS, UH, FOR A NEW 1,757 SQUARE FOOT RESIDENCE. UM, WITH VARIANCE REQUEST, IT WOULD INCLUDE AN ATTACHED ONE CAR GARAGE. THE HEIGHT WOULD BE THREE STORIES. UM, THE THIRD FLOOR WILL BE 534 SQUARE FEET OF HABITABLE SPACE. THE PROJECT PROPOSES TO HAVE, UM, REDUCED SETBACKS, PARKING WITHIN THE FRONT YARD SETBACK, UH, NO ADDITIONAL UNITS I PROPOSED WITH THIS, LET'S SAY SUCH AS ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS OR SB NINE UNITS. HERE'S THE SITE PLAN SHOWING THE SITUATION OF THE PROPOSED STRUCTURE ON THE LOT. AS YOU CAN SEE, IT KIND OF CONFORMS TO THE SHAPE AND IS ROUGHLY CENTERED ON THE LOT. UM, GOING INTO SOME OF THE VARIANCE REQUESTS, UH, THE LOT AREA, AS I MENTIONED, IS 2,285 SQUARE FEET. THE MINIMUM, THE MINIMUM LAW AREA IN THIS ZONE IS 5,000 SQUARE FEET. THE, UH, 20 FOOT FRONT YARD SETBACK. UH, FOR PURPOSES OF BUILDING THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE, THEY WILL BE MEETING THAT. HOWEVER, UH, OUR CODE DOESN'T ALLOW PARKING IN IN THE FRONT YARD SETBACK. IT ALSO DOESN'T ALLOW TANDEM PARKING. SO, UH, THEIR PROPOSED LOCATION FOR PARKING IN THE DRIVEWAY AREA WOULD NOT MEET EITHER OF THOSE STANDARDS. UM, THE MINIMUM OR THE REAR YARD SETBACK REQUIREMENT IS 25 FEET. UH, WHAT THEY ARE PROPOSING IS ESSENTIALLY AT A 14 FOOT SETBACK FROM THE REAR YARD LINE. UH, THEY'RE ALSO REQUESTING A ONE FOOT REDUCTION IN THE SIDE YARD SETBACK FIVE FEET OR FOUR FEET INSTEAD OF FIVE FEET. UM, AND THERE ARE THE REQUESTS THERE TO BASICALLY MODIFY THE PARKING SETBACK TO, TO THE FRONT OF THE LOT, A 14 FOOT REAR YARD SETBACK AND A FOUR FOOT SIDE YARD SETBACK ON THE, UM, EASTERN HALF OF THE LOT. UM, HERE'S THE APPLICANT'S FLOOR PLANS. UM, OF IMPORTANCE IS THAT THIRD STORY, WHICH I MENTIONED IS 534 SQUARE FEET, UH, WITH SOME OUTDOOR DECKS. UM, THE ELEVATION SHOWING THE HEIGHT. THE HEIGHT IS, UH, MEETING THE ZONES 35 FOOT HEIGHT REQUIREMENT. HOWEVER, THAT ZONE DISTRICT HAS A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF TWO STORIES. UM, AND SO THAT THIRD FLOOR WOULD BE, UH, AGAIN, THAT AREA WOULD BE NOT MEETING OUR CURRENT ZONING. SO THE PROPOSAL IS CONSISTENT WITH OUR GENERAL PLAN, UH, WHICH ENCOURAGES INFILL DEVELOPMENT. UH, POLICY LLU 4.3 PROMOTE INFILL DEVELOPMENT, REDEVELOPMENT REHABILITATION AND REUSE EFFORTS THAT CONTRIBUTE POSITIVELY TO EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS AND SURROUNDING AREAS. UH, THE PROPOSAL ALSO PROVIDES A HOME OWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITY. UH, AND THEN GETTING TO THE GENERAL PLAN. DENSITY, DENSITY, UH, ZONING [00:15:01] PERMITS, ONE, AT LEAST ONE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE PER LOT. UM, OVERALL DENSITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS, IS SEVERELY LIMITED BY THE FREEWAY RIGHT OF WAY NEXT DOOR, WHICH IS, UH, ABOUT 375 FEET WIDE. UM, SO THE OVERALL NEIGHBORHOOD DENSITY WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE IMPACTED BY THIS. UM, FOR THE LAND USE CODE, UH, WE HAVE STANDARDS DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS WITHIN THE RS TWO ZONE. AND THERE ARE ALSO GENERAL, GENERAL DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT APPLY CITYWIDE. IN THIS CASE. THE 5,000 SQUARE FOOT MINIMUM LOT AREA IS AN RS TWO ZONE REQUIREMENT. UM, THE, THE CURRENT SIZE AND SHAPE IS ESSENTIALLY A RESULT OF THE FREEWAY CONSTRUCTION. UM, I MENTIONED THE 20 FOOT FRONT YARD SETBACK. UH, OUR CODE SAYS NO PARKING IN A STREET FACING SETBACK, UM, AND NO TANDEM PARKING PERMITTED OUTSIDE THE WEST SIDE. SPECIFIC PLAN OF NOTE, THE APPLICANT DOES WANT TO PARK IN THAT SETBACK TO MEET THE PARKING REQUIREMENT, WHICH REQUIRES TWO SPACES ON A SINGLE FAMILY LOT SUCH AS THIS. UM, FIVE FOOT INTERIOR. YOUR SIDE YARD SETBACKS ARE REQUIRED FOR THE RS TWO. ZONE FOUR IS REQUESTED FOR THE EAST SIDE OF THIS LOT. UM, A 25 FOOT REAR YARD SETBACK IS REQUESTED. UM, ESSENTIALLY 14 FEET IS REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT. UH, THE PROPERTY IS SUBJECT TO THE REAR LOT LINE DEFINITION, WHICH MODIFIES THE LOCATION OF WHERE THAT LOT LINE IS BASED ON THE IRREGULAR SHAPE OF THE LOT. UM, AND AGAIN, THE TWO STORY MAXIMUM HEIGHT, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THREE STORIES OF ON THE RESIDENCE. UH, THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 35 FEET IS BEING MET FOR THE FINDINGS. THERE ARE SPECIFIC FINDINGS FOR A VARIANCE REQUEST. UH, THE FIRST OF WHICH IS THAT, UM, THE VARIANCE SHOULD ONLY BE GRANTED WHEN BECAUSE OF SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES APP APPLICABLE TO THE PROPERTY SUCH AS SIZE, SHAPE, TOPOGRAPHY, LOCATION, SURROUNDINGS, UH, THAT THE STRICT APPLICATION OF TITLE 18 DEPRIVED THE PROPERTY OF PRIVILEGES ENJOYED BY OTHER PROPERTIES IN THE VICINITY AND UNDER THE SAME ZONING CLASSIFICATION. UH, SO THE LOT IS LESS THAN HALF THIS REQUIRED SIZE, WHICH RESTRICTS THE BUILDING AREA. UH, THE TRIANGULAR SHAPE ALSO MODIFIES THE BUILDING AREA. AND ESSENTIALLY THERE IS NO ROOM FOR A RESIDENCE OF A TYPICAL SIZE, UH, THAT YOU WOULD SEE HERE IN NATIONAL CITY, UH, AS WELL AS ROOM FOR PROVIDING APPROPRIATE PARKING. UM, IF A VARIANCE IS GRANTED, IT SHALL BE SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS THAT IT, THAT IT WOULD NOT CONSTITUTE A GRANT OF SPECIAL PRIVILEGES, UH, INCONSISTENT WITH THE LIMITATIONS ON OTHER PROPERTIES IN THE VICINITY, VICINITY AND ZONE IN WHICH THE PROPERTY IS SITUATED. ESSENTIALLY, THEY'RE NOT GETTING A SPECIAL PRIVILEGE BY THIS VARIANCE. UM, IN NATIONAL CITY, THERE ARE, UH, MANY CASES OF OTHER DEVELOPMENT, LOTS SMALLER THAN 5,000 SQUARE FEET, UH, WITHIN THE R TWO ZONE. UM, THERE ARE QUITE A FEW PROPERTIES THAT EXIST THAT HAVE REDUCED SETBACKS. UM, IN SOME CASES, ENTIRE SUBDIVISIONS HAVE, UH, HAD VARIANCES FOR REDUCED SETBACKS. UM, WE ALSO HAVE EXAMPLES OF HOMES WITHIN NATIONAL CITY, UH, SPECIFICALLY THE VICTORIAN STYLE MANSIONS. WE'LL GO THREE STORIES ON OUR HISTORIC HOMES AND, UH, HOMES IN NASHVILLE CITY BEING THE AGE IT IS, UH, MANY ARE BUILT PRIOR TO SETBACK REQUIREMENTS, SO PARKING WITHIN THAT FRONT SET YARD SETBACK ON A DRIVEWAY IS PRETTY COMMON WITHIN THE CITY. THE THIRD, UH, YEAH, THIRD FINDING, I DIDN'T PUT THAT ON THERE. RIGHT. UH, A VARIANCE SHALL NOT BE GRANTED FOR A PROPERTY WHICH AUTHORIZE A USE OR ACTIVITY, WHICH IS NOT AUTHORIZED. AUTHORIZED IN THE ZONE. UH, THIS IS A PROPOSAL FOR A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE. IT'S A PERMITTED USE IN THE RS TWO ZONE. UH, PARKING IS ALSO AN ACCESSORY USE TO THE RESIDENTS, UM, AND THEY'RE REQUESTING TO CONFORM WITH THE REQUIREMENTS FOR PARKING FOR THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT. STA DETERMINATION IS THAT IT'S CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT PURSUANT TO CLASS THREE. THIS IS NEW CONSTRUCTION OF SMALL OR CONVERSION OF SMALL STRUCTURES. SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES ARE SPECIFICALLY CALLED OUT AS BEING EXEMPT. UM, THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, UH, FOR THIS PROJECT, UH, WE HAVE OUR STANDARD CONDITIONS FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS. UH, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ALSO PROVIDE SOME COMMENTS AND STAFF HAS ALSO ASKED THE APPLICANT FOR AN, UH, UPDATED SITE PLAN TO REFLECT THE CORRECT REAR REAR LOT REAR YARD SETBACK. UM, AND THEN THE PROPOSED USE, ONCE AGAIN CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL PLAN, UH, THE PROPOSED RESIDENCE IS A PERMITTED USE AND TITLE 18 ALLOWS FOR HIS OWN VARIANCES IF THE FINDINGS CAN BE MADE. UH, SO THE OPTIONS FOR THE COMMISSION HERE TONIGHT ARE TO FIND THE PROJECT EXEMPT FROM CQA AND APPROVE THE ZONE VARIANCE BASED ON THE FINDINGS LIFTED, LISTED IN THE DRAFT RESOLUTION OR FINDINGS DETERMINED BY THE COMMISSION, OR FIND THE PROJECT NOT EXEMPT FROM CQA AND OR DENY THE ZONE VARIANCE BASED ON FINDINGS DETERMINED BY THE COMMISSION [00:20:01] OR CONTINUE THE ITEM FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. UH, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. SHOULD IT BE APPROVED, A NOTICE OF DECISION WOULD BE, UH, SENT TO THE CITY COUNCIL. UH, THAT CONCLUDES STAFF PRESENTATION AND I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU MR. WELSH. I APPRECIATE THAT MICROPHONE. PLEASE. I HAVE A QUESTION. I I WAS JUST, UM, IF WE, IF THE, THE ZONING IS, IT'S R IT'S UM, RS TWO RIGHT NOW AND YOU WANNA CHANGE THE ZONING, RIGHT? THE REQUEST IS FOR A ZONE VARIANCE OR A VARIANCE UHHUH FOR, UH, DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOUND WITHIN THE RS TWO ZONE. THE, WITHIN THE, THE ZONE ITSELF IS NOT BEING PROPOSED TO BE CHANGED. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I WANNA KNOW. OKAY. AND, UM, OKAY. AND THIS, I'LL ASK THEM A FEW. NEVERMIND, GO AHEAD. THANK YOU. OKAY. I INVITE THE APPLICANT OR THEIR REPRESENTATIVE TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES AND ADDRESS THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO GIVE THEIR 15 MINUTE PRESENTATION. PLEASE, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME. ESTELLA CLARK RO MARRON. I'M SORRY SIR, COULD YOU PLEASE REPEAT YOUR NAME? ARTURO MARRO MY HUSBAND. OKAY. PLEASE PROCEED. OH YES. SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET A VARIANCE IN ORDER TO BUILD THIS THREE STORY UNIT AND, UH, I GUESS 'CAUSE IT'S A PIE SHAPED LOT, WE NEED TO KIND OF DO THE BEST WE CAN SO WE CAN HAVE MORE SPACE IN THE HOUSE. SO, SPECIFICALLY WHY WE'RE HERE. I ALSO BELIEVE THAT BUILDING A NICE HOUSE THERE WILL REVITALIZE THE AREA. MM-HMM. . AND I INTEND TO LIVE THERE WITH MY HUSBAND 'CAUSE GOING TO COLLEGE AND THEY MAY STAY AT OUR OLD HOUSE. SO THAT'S WHERE WE INTEND TO LIVE. OKAY. VERY GOOD. WE'RE EXCITED. , I'M EXCITED. OKAY. ABOUT THE POSSIBLE FUTURE POSSIBILITIES. AND SHE'S LIKE, WHEN ARE YOU GONNA BUILD? WHERE ARE YOU GONNA BUILD? I LIKE OKAY. TAKES TIME. YEAH. I'M GLAD TO BE HERE TO MEET YOU ALL AND THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE FOR MY, MY SONS ARE IN THE AUDIENCE. . OKAY. AND I AM PLEASED TO MEET YOU ALL AND I BELIEVE WE'D BE A GREAT, GREAT NEW MEMBERS TO THE COMMUNITY. AND, UM, I, I'M RETIRED. I NO LONGER WORK, SO OKAY. HE'S GONNA BE WORKING . SO, UH, THE, THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT YOU ARE IN FAVOR OF STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. I AM IN FAVOR OF STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. OKAY. YES. IS THIS GOING TO BE YOUR PRIMARY, UH, MICROPHONE PLEASE? SORRY? IS THIS GOING TO BE YOUR PRIMARY RESIDENCE? YES. OKAY. ARE YOU CURRENTLY NATIONAL CITY RESIDENCE? NO. OKAY. ULA VISTA, DID YOU ALREADY PURCHASE THE PROPERTY, UH, IN NATIONAL CITY? YES. THE ONE YOU WANNA BUILD ON? YES. THE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW OR NOT THE VEHICLES THAT ARE PARKED THERE, ARE YOU USING IT AS A VEHICLE LOT NOW? I USED IT BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE LIKE CAMPING THERE FOR A WHILE. GOT IT. AND THE NEIGHBORS WERE CALLING ME, THEY'RE LIKE, PEOPLE ARE LIKE HAVING BONFIRES IN THE LOT. YOU CALL THE POLICE, I CALLED SEVERAL TIMES AND PUT YOUR TRUCK THERE. SO IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S OCCUPIED. YES. WE MEAN BUSINESS THERE. AND HOPEFULLY WE HAVE SEEN SOME HOMELESS IN THE, THEY STOLE THAT NEAR THE FREEWAY, BUT THEY STAY BACK S STUFF THERE FROM ME ALREADY. WHERE, WHERE I'VE BEEN THERE MANY TIMES. OKAY. I GET A LOT OF CALLS FROM THE NEIGHBORS. YEAH. I WASN'T SURE IF IT WAS THE NEIGHBORS THAT WERE PARKING THEIR VEHICLES THERE ON YOUR LOT OR IF THERE WAS GONNA BE UH, I WAS PARKING MY VEHICLES THERE. OKAY, AWESOME. SO THEY WOULDN'T, I, I HAD A GUY THAT HE, HE DIDN'T WANNA LEAVE, SO FINALLY HE LEFT. SO, YEAH. UM, DID YOU GUYS DO A, UM, A SURVEY, A LOT SURVEY OF THE, TO SEE WHERE THE EXACT LINES ARE FOR THE LOT? UH, I DID, BUT IT, IT'S TAKEN A WHILE TO GET IT, BUT YES, I'M GOING TO HAVE IT WHEN, WHEN IT GETS APPROVED WE'RE GONNA GET ALL THAT IN ORDER. OKAY. OKAY. FOLLOW UP ON THAT QUESTION. COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ, THE RENDERING WE GOT HERE, THAT, THAT'S BASED OFF OF YOUR, WHAT IS THAT BASED OFF OF? HOW'D YOU GUYS GET THAT? YEAH, THERE'S, [00:25:01] UH, ON THE PLUG MAP FROM THE, FROM THE COUNTY WHEN YOU BOUGHT YOUR PRO. OKAY, GOTCHA. GOTCHA. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. WE MAY HAVE QUESTIONS IN A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL SEE. OKAY, WE'LL LET YOU KNOW. WE WILL NOW HEAR FROM ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER. EACH PERSON MAY ADDRESS THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR A MAXIMUM TIME OF THREE MINUTES. MADAM SECRETARY, ARE THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER, EITHER IN PERSON OR ON ZOOM? NO. CHAIR. THANK YOU. I REQUEST THE SECRETARY PROCEED WITH DISCLOSING IF ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS. OKAY. UH, WERE RECEIVED IN WRITING. MADAM SECRETARY, NO CHAIR. THANK YOU. WOULD STAFF LIKE TO MAKE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? UH, STAFF IS JUST AVAILABLE FOR ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, APPLICANT. DO YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? NO. THANK YOU. UM, DO ANY OF THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY CLARIFYING QUESTIONS? YES. MISS COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ. UM, JUST A QUESTION MORE FOR, FOR THE PLANNING, THE SETBACK THAT'S FOR FOUR FEET. IS THERE ANY WAY THAT THEY COULD HAVE GOTTEN A ZERO SETBACK SO THAT THEY CAN MAKE THE FIVE FOOT SETBACK ON THE CALTRANS A LITTLE BIT WIDER AND USABLE SPACE AS WE'RE ALREADY DOING? UH, DEVIATIONS. UM, STAFF HAS ONLY PRESENTED WHAT THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED. UM, IF THEY FELT LIKE IT WOULD BE OF VALUE TO HAVE A DIFFERENT SETBACK THERE, UH, THAT COULD BE DISCUSSED HERE TONIGHT. UM, WHEN IT COMES TO SETBACKS, SOMETIMES A A SMALLER SETBACK WILL TRIGGER ADDITIONAL FIRE CODES ON THE CONSTRUCTION SIDE. UM, MAYBE FIRE RATED WALLS, THAT SORT OF THING. UM, BUT IF YOU WISH TO DISCUSS THAT WITH THE APPLICANT, YOU MAY. MR. SANCHEZ, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ? UH, WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO DISCUSS THAT? PLEASE COME TO THE DI SIR. IT, YOU KNOW, CLOSER TO THE, YOU KNOW, TO THE PROPERTY LINE. I APOLOGIZE. MAY THE APPLICANT SPEAK INTO THE MIC JUST SO WE CAN CATCH IT. THANK YOU. IF WE CAN, UH, IF WE CAN GET THE PROPERTY TO THE LINES, IT'LL BE BETTER FOR US. YOU KNOW, WE GET MORE SPACE. I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT THAT SLOPE THERE. YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S MY CONCERN. AND ALSO GIVING HIM MORE THE ABILITY TO HAVE USABLE SPACE ON THE DESIGN. SO THE SPACE BETWEEN THE FREEWAY DOWN HERE, RIGHT WHEN IT GOES UP AND THEN IT GOES TO THE FLOOR, WE STILL HAVE ABOUT, I DON'T KNOW, IT COULD BE ABOUT 14, 15 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE. OKAY. SO THERE'S PLENTY OF SPACE. I'M NOT ON THE EDGE. NO. I DON'T WANT TO BE ON THE EDGE. DID YOU DO A SOILS REPORT? UH, WHEN WE GET TO THAT, I'M SURE THEY'RE GONNA ASK FOR THE SOILS REPORT AND THEN, BUT THE SOILS REPORT, IT'LL DETERMINE WHAT KIND OF FOUNDATION WE NEED TO BUILD. SO YEAH. UH, MICROPHONE PLEASE. I'M SORRY. I CAN, I'M NOT USED TO HAVING THIS 'CAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE IT OVER THERE. . I'M SORRY. ANYWAY, UM, I, NOW I, LIKE I SAID, I WAS WALKING BY THERE AND THAT'S WHERE I USUALLY WALK ALL THE TIME ON FOURTH AVENUE. AND SO I WAS LOOKING AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE HIGHEST ONES ACROSS THE STREET ON THIS SIDE ARE TWO, ARE TWO STORIES. AND I LOOKED AT ALL THE HOUSES AROUND THERE AND I LOOKED AND EVERYTHING. AND SO I DID YOU, DID YOU EVER CONSIDER JUST DOING TWO STORIES INSTEAD OF THREE? 'CAUSE MY CONCERN IS, OR MY ISSUE, I SHOULDN'T SAY IT'S ISSUE. I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT'S RIGHT. SO NEXT TO THE SLOPE, YOU KNOW? CORRECT. AND THEN THREE, THREE STORIES HIGH. IT JUST SEEMS TO ME THAT IT'S GONNA STICK OUT LIKE A SORE THUMB AND IT'S JUST THE CHARACTER OF THE, OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS TWO STORIES AND THAT ONE'S GONNA BE UP THERE BY ITSELF AND IT'S SORT OF GONNA LOOK LIKE AN EYESORE FOR ME. YES. WELL, THERE'S OTHER PROPERTIES DOWN THE STREET. OH, I DON'T KNOW THE STREETS, BUT THERE ARE THREE STORY BUILDINGS AROUND THERE ALSO. AND THERE'S TWO STORY HOUSES AROUND THERE TOO, SO YEAH, NO, I SAW THE TWO STORY HOUSES AND I'VE SEEN THE, THE VICTORIAN HOUSE AND ALL THAT THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, TALLER AND, AND I'VE SEEN THE OTHER BUILDINGS THAT ARE THREE FEET, BUT I WAS JUST THINKING BECAUSE ALL THOSE HOUSES RIGHT THERE ON THAT BLOCK RIGHT, ARE SINGLE LEVEL. SO THAT ONE UP THERE JUST EYESORE. SO FOR ME TO GO THREE STORIES, IT'S, UH, I'M GONNA SPEND MORE MONEY DOING A THREE STORY THAN A TWO STORY AND DOING A THREE STORY, IT'S GONNA HELP ME OUT FOR MY FAMILY. [00:30:01] WE'RE A FAMILY OF FIVE, SO I NEED THE ROOM. TWO STORIES IN SUCH A NARROW HOUSE. IT'S GONNA BE VERY HARD TO BUILD A TWO STORY. YOU HAVE ALL THOSE ROOMS THERE. MM-HMM. . I REALLY NEED TO HAVE THAT THIRD STORY. I HAVE A QUESTION TOO. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS MORE OR TO STAFF OR IF, IF YOU'RE AWARE, UM, THE LOWER FLOOR, THE FIRST FLOOR, DO YOU KNOW HOW APPROXIMATELY HOW MANY SQUARE FEET THAT IS? UM, HOW MANY SQUARE FEET IS EACH LEVEL? IS IT BASICALLY 1700 DIVIDED BY BY THREE OR? I, I MEAN, I, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THEY INCLUDE THE GARAGE IN THE SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR THE RIGHT LIVING SPACE, SO RIGHT, UH, THROUGH THE CHAIR, WE DO HAVE THE FLOOR PLANS ON THE SLIDE UP HERE, IT'S A LITTLE SMALL, SO IT'S HARD TO READ. UM, BUT THE FIRST FLOOR IS 519 SQUARE FEET. THAT IS SUBTRACTING THE ONE CAR GARAGE OF 200 SQUARE FEET. SO THE OVERALL FOOTPRINT IS ABOUT 700. UH, THE SECOND FLOOR ABOVE THAT IS 719 SQUARE FEET. UM, AND THEN THE THIRD FLOOR, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, 534 SQUARE FEET. SO IT'S A LITTLE SMALLER WITH THE, WITH THE DECKS. UM, THAT THIRD FLOOR IS COMPRISED OF, UH, TWO BEDROOMS. AND THEN THAT SECOND FLOOR HAS, IT LOOKS LIKE TWO BEDROOMS AS WELL. SO ALL THE BEDROOMS ARE IN THE UPPER FLOORS, ESSENTIALLY. SO THE THIRD STORY IS NOT COMPLETELY THE WHOLE LENGTH OF THE HOUSE. IT'S ABOUT HALF, YES. 532 THIRDS. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, I CALL ON MYSELF FOR A QUICK QUESTION. DOES STAFF KNOW IF THE, I, I, I THINK IT'S GOING, I THINK I KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT DO YOU KNOW IF THIS PARCEL IS IN A, ON A CUT OR FILL SLOPE? I THINK IT'S ON A CUT SLOPE. DOES STAFF KNOW? 'CAUSE I THINK WHEN THEY PUT IN 8 0 5, THEY CAME AND THEY DUG THAT VALLEY. SO I THINK THAT'S A CUT SLOPE. CORRECT? IT IS A CUT SLOPE. BUT, UM, TO THE QUESTION ABOUT SOILS, IT WAS ALSO MENTIONED EARLIER WHEN A BUILDING PERMIT IS APPLIED FOR, THERE IS A REQUIREMENT FOR NEW HOUSES TO HAVE A SOIL SUPPORT DONE TO ENSURE THAT THE APPROPRIATE COMPACTION IS DONE SO THAT, THAT WILL BE, UM, ASCERTAINED DURING THAT PROCESS. OKAY. THANK YOU. WELCOME. AND ALSO, I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION ABOUT SO FAR AS THE CONCERN FOR HEIGHT, IF I UNDERSTAND THE, UH, ZONING ORDINANCE, A TWO STORY BUILDING CAN GO UP 2 35 FEET, CORRECT? CORRECT. THANK YOU. SO THEY, THEY COULD ACTUALLY BUILD A TWO STORY BUILDING AT 35 FEET. SO WHETHER IT'S TWO OR THREE, I'M NOT SURE IT MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE 'CAUSE THEY CAN GO TO THAT HEIGHT ANYWAYS. SO THE VARIANCE IN MY MIND WOULD BE JUSTIFIED FOR, FOR THAT. UM, MR. AGIRI? YES. CARLOS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR. THANK YOU. UH, PLEASE NOTE ALSO THAT THE THIRD STORY ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ELEVATION HAS A DECK SO YOU DON'T HAVE ONE MASSING COMPLETELY. IT'S GONNA HAVE AN OFFSET. SO IT'LL HAVE ARCHITECTURAL RECESS ON THE THIRD FLOOR. IT'S NOT GONNA LOOK LIKE ONE COHERENT BUILDING. SO MOST MODERN HOUSES NOW ARE DONE THAT WAY SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE JUST THE ENTIRE MASSING OF THE THREE FLOORS. AND, AND IT'S ARCHITECTURALLY APPROPRIATE TO HAVE THE DECK SO IT, IT LOOKS MORE APPROPRIATE TO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. IS THERE ATTIC SPACE? OH, MAYBE IT'S A LITTLE BIT, BUT NOT MUCH. YEAH. 'CAUSE THE ROOF IS FLAT UP. OKAY. I BELIEVE YOU'LL BE, UH, PLEASANTLY. WELL, IT'LL BE FAVORABLY A PLEASURABLE VIEW OF THE BUILDING. IT'LL LOOK VERY NICE. HE'S NOT, HE'S GOING TO DO A GREAT JOB. OKAY. ARE YOU BUILDING THIS YOURSELF, SIR? ? I, I'LL, I WANT TO DO A LOT OF MY, THE WORK MYSELF. I'M GONNA SUB BY A LOT OF WORK TOO, BUT I CAN'T DO IT ALL. ? YES. COMMISSIONER TAN MICROPHONE PLEASE. OH, OWNER BUILDER. GOOD LUCK, . UM, YES. BEEN THERE. UM, MY, UH, MY LAST THING ON THE ARCHITECTURAL, UH, YOU DON'T HAVE TO EXACTLY TELL ME WHAT MOTIF YOU'RE USING, BUT WHAT, WHAT KIND OF STYLE ARE YOU LEANING TOWARDS? SO LIKE, 'CAUSE I JUST USE SQUARE BOXES. NOT YET, OR NO, IT'S FINE. SPANISH. SPANISH. LIKE A TUSCANY SPANISH STUFF. WHAT KIND OF LIKE, YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR RESPONSES. THANK YOU. OKAY. HAVING HEARD ALL COMMENTS FROM MEMBERS OF THE STAFF AND THE APPLICANT AND THE PUBLIC ON THIS ITEM, [00:35:01] IS THERE A COMMISSIONER WISHING TO BRING A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? AGAIN, THIS IS A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. WE NEED A SECOND, PLEASE. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY VICE CHAIR CASTLE AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ARMA TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, BEING THE MAKER OF THE MOTION. UH, VICE CHAIR CASTLE HAS THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON THE MOTION. THIS IS JUST A CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING, CORRECT? CORRECT, CORRECT. N NO, NOTHING. THANK, THANK YOU. UM, SO WE WILL PROCEED TO VOTE ELECTRONICALLY. OKAY. COMMISSIONER QUINONES, YOU DID NOT WANT TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. OH, I'M SORRY. TELL YOU I'M BLOWING IT TODAY. CAN CAN YOU, CAN WE, YOU CAN, YOU CAN LEAVE IT AS A NO, THAT'S, THAT'S FINE. OKAY. AS LONG AS, BUT YOU MEANT TO PRESS YES. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. OKAY. SO THEN LET'S, LET'S RESET AND DO A NEW MOTION AND DO A NEW VOTE. OKAY. OKAY. SO WE'RE GONNA DO A NEW VOTE AND THERE'S A RESET. OKAY. NOW IT NEEDS TO BE RESET FIRST AND THEN I GUESS THE, THE, UH, UH, VICE CHAIR CASTLE AND COMMISSIONER MENT NEED TO MAKE THEIR MOTIONS AGAINST IT'S NOT READY YET. IT'S FROZEN. UH, OH, WE'RE LOCKED. . OKAY. NEW MOTION. OKAY. OKAY. SO DO I NEED TO READ THE RECORD AGAIN? NO. CHAIR COUNCIL CAN JUST MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY. AND COMMISSIONER ARMINTA SECOND. OKAY. NOW WE WILL VOTE ELECTRONICALLY. OKAY. UH, MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE DECLARE THE VOTE MOTION APPROVE UNANIMOUSLY WITH COMMISSIONERS PRESENT. THANK YOU. UH, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT? UM, IF NOT, IS THERE A MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION THAT WOULD LIKE TO BRING A MOTION TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION? I MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION AND APPROVE. UM, IS THERE ANY AMENDMENT THAT YOU WANTED TO MAKE? FOR EXAMPLE, THE ONE EX, UH, SUGGESTION FOR ZERO LOT LINE OR DOWN TO ZERO LOT LINE? I WOULD SAY THE, WITH THE SUGGESTION DOWN TO A ZERO LOT LINE, IS THE AT LEAST REDUCED? YES. YEAH. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSION, UH, I'M SORRY, VICE CHAIR CASTLE AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024 DASH ZERO ONE. A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY CALIFORNIA, DETERMINING THAT THE PROJECT IS CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT FROM THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT. CA UNDER CLASS THREE OF THE CA GUIDELINES SECTION 1 53 0 3, NEW CONSTRUCTION OR CONVERSION OF SMALL STRUCTURES AND APPROVING A ZONE VARIANCE TO ALLOW A NEW SINGLE FAMILY HOME TO, TO DEVIATE FROM THE REQUIREMENTS FROM THE MINIMUM LOT AREA, MINIMUM YARD SETBACKS, THE LOCATION OF PARKING SPACES AND MAXIMUM HEIGHT AT A VACANT LOT ON EAST FOURTH STREET. CASE FILE NUMBER 2023 DASH 17 Z ASSESSOR, PARCEL NUMBER 5 5 7 DASH 0 5 0 3 2. BEING THE MAKER OF THE MOTION, VICE CHAIR CASTLE HAS THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO THE MOTION. I THINK THAT INFILL DEVELOPMENT IS A GOOD THING. UM, I KNOW WITH OUR, OUR NUMBERS, UM, FOR OUR ARENA NUMBERS, WE NEED MORE HOUSING HERE IN NATIONAL CITY. I THINK THIS IS A GOOD THING. I THINK IT WILL BE GOOD FOR OWNER OCCUPIED, UM, PROPERTIES, UM, AND TO BUILD. AND I, I DON'T THINK THAT THE, THE HEIGHT REQUIREMENT, IT'S STILL WITHIN THE 35 FEET. SO I THINK WE'RE STILL, IT'S NOT GOING TO STICK OUT NECESSARILY LIKE A SORE THUMB. UM, MY CONCERN IS ADDING THE ADDITIONAL FOOTAGE BECAUSE THAT LOT IS VERY SMALL. UM, AS MOST OF US KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN BY IT. UM, AND TO HELP YOU GUYS BE COMFORTABLE THERE. UM, SO I, THAT'S, THAT'S [00:40:01] WHAT I HAVE. THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS ON THE MOTION? COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ? I I DON'T REALLY WANT TO WISH THEM LUCK. I MEAN, IT'S REVITALIZING, UH, OUR COMMUNITY. I REALLY APPLAUD THAT. ALSO, UM, IT REALLY INTERESTING HOW THIS DEVELOPMENT, SMALL RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IS HAPPENING. I'VE, UH, I'VE SEEN A NUMBER OF THESE, UH, COME UP IN THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO AND, UH, THEY'RE VERY INTERESTING TO LOOK AT. SO GOOD LUCK AND THANK YOU TO, FOR ADDING TO THE FABRIC OF OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS ON THE MOTION? OKAY, SO WE WILL, I'M SORRY. YEAH, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SHARE MY SUPPORT FOR PURSUING A HOUSING PROJECT THAT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE GONNA TAKE THE LEAD ON BUILDING ON A VERY, UM, SLIM LOT. IT'S A CREATIVE ENDEAVOR. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER FARM. OKAY, UH, SO WE WILL NOW PROCEED WITH VOTES WITH VOTING. MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE DECLARE THE RESULTS MOTION APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY WITH, UM, COMMISSIONERS PRESENT. THANK YOU. WE, THAT, UH, CLOSES THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THE DISCUSSION ON THAT PARTICULAR ITEM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO OTHER BUSINESS. OKAY. WE'RE [STAFF REPORTS] GOING TO MOVE ON TO STAFF REPORTS. UH, LEGAL COUNSEL, UH, NOTHING AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU. UH, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. NO REPORT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. UH, THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. UH, FIRST OF ALL, WELCOME TO OUR NEW COMMISSIONER. I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU FOR THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS AT LEAST. UH, WE'RE MOST LIKELY NOT GONNA HAVE A MEETING ON APRIL 15TH, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW. NOW, UH, WE DON'T HAVE ANY ITEMS EITHER FOR THE HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE OR FOR PLANNING COMMISSION THAT WOULD BE READY. AND THEN, UH, LASTLY, AS YOU RECALL, LAST YEAR WE HAD, UH, UH, A, UH, CHAMBER'S SAFETY BRIEFING THAT WAS PUT ON BY THE FIRE MARSHAL. SOME OF YOU WERE ABLE TO ATTEND, SOME OF YOU ARE NOT. SO, UH, WE'RE GONNA ATTEMPT TO FINISH THAT UP. SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO SO, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. YOU NEED TO LET ME KNOW NOW, OR, UH, YOU CAN EMAIL ME, UH, AFTER THE FACT. BUT MR. HERNANDEZ IS AVAILABLE TO DO THAT. AGAIN, JUST TALKING ABOUT EMERGENCY EXITS AND GENERAL SAFETY IN AND AROUND THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT. THANKS. THANK YOU, MR. READER. OKAY, WE'LL MOVE ON TO COMMISSIONERS, UH, VICE CHAIR CASTLE. UH, NOTHING TO REPORT, BUT I WOULD, I DID NOT ATTEND THE, UH, SAFETY BRIEFING, SO I WOULD LIKE TO CONFIRM, UM, THAT, THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND THAT. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, COMMISSIONER ARMA, I HAVE NOTHING, BUT I DO WANNA SAY, UH, WELCOME ABOARD, UH, COMMISSIONER FOREMAN, WE'RE EXCITED FOR TO HAVE YOU HERE. THANK YOU. UH, COMMISSIONER QUINONE, I HAVE NOTHING TO REPORT, BUT I ALSO WANNA WELCOME YOU AND YOU REALLY LIKE THAT SPOT. COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ, I HAVE NO, NOTHING TO SAY OTHER THAN, UH, WELCOME TO THE, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION. COMMISSIONER FOREMAN. WELL, THANK YOU FOR EVERYONE WELCOMING ME HERE, . AND, UM, YEAH, I'LL JUST SHARE THAT I HAVE WORKED IN THE FIELD AS AN URBAN PLANNER SINCE I'VE LIVED IN SAN DIEGO, MORE OR LESS FOR 18 YEARS, AND ONLY RECENTLY MOVED INTO NATIONAL CITY. ALTHOUGH I HAVE THIS, UH, A YEAR AGO WITH MY HUSBAND. UH, WE LIVED NEAR SWEETWATER ON J 28TH AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S A LOVELY NEIGHBORHOOD. I'M REALLY ENJOYING, UM, INGRAINING MYSELF IN NATIONAL CITY AND, UM, YOU KNOW, EXPLORING MORE OF THE SOUTH BAY AND PARTAKING IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION SEEMED LIKE A GOOD NEXT STEP FOR ME. SO I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE AND PARTAKE SUPPORT OUR CITY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. UM, AND JUST, UH, COMMISSIONER FOREMAN FOR YOUR INFORMATION, IT WAS REQUESTED SOME MONTHS AGO THAT, UM, THERE BE BRIEFINGS FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS ON EMERGENCY PROCEDURES, UM, EVACUATION IN CASE THERE'S AN EARTHQUAKE, UH, WHAT TO DO IF, IF WE HEAR GUNFIRE OR THERE'S A DISRUPTION AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THAT'S WHAT'S BEEN MENTIONED HERE. UM, BECAUSE OF, UM, STATE LAW, WE CAN'T HAVE FOUR OR MORE MEMBERS GO ON A TOUR. IT HAS TO BE THREE OR FEWER. AND SO, UH, MR. [00:45:01] READER WILL REACH OUT TO YOU TO ARRANGE THAT, UH, WITH, UH, MOST TWO OTHER COMMISSION MEMBERS. OKAY. AND, UH, THE FIRE MARSHAL I ASSUME IS GOING TO BE DOING THAT, MR. READER? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. SO, UH, THAT'S WHAT THAT'S ALL ABOUT, SO. OKAY. UM, AND I HAVE NOTHING FURTHER TO REPORT, UM, EITHER, SO THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS HERE HEREBY ADJOURNED UNTIL THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING OF APRIL 15TH, 2024 AT 6:00 PM THE TIME IS 6:45 PM. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. 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