* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. QUIET. [00:00:06] ALL RIGHT. [1. CALL TO ORDER] LIKE TO, UH, CALL THIS MEETING THE CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER. AND BEFORE WE PROCEED, I REQUEST FOR THE, UH, INTERPRETER TO TAKE A MOMENT TO EXPLAIN THE CITY'S INTERPRETATION SERVICES THAT WILL BE OFFERED FOR THIS EVENING'S MEETING. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THE FOLLOWING WILL BE AN ANNOUNCEMENT FOR OUR SPANISH, UH, SPEAKING PARTICIPANTS. AND THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU. AS A REMINDER, WE COULD PLEASE SILENCE ALL CELL PHONES AND DEVICES IN THE CHAMBER. AND WITH THAT, WE HAVE A, UH, LIVE WEBCAST IN THE MEETING THAT CAN BE VIEWED UPON THE CITY'S WEBSITE. AND THEN ALSO NOTICE AGENDA AND INFORMATION ON THE CITY OF NASHVILLE CITY'S WEBSITE INFORM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT THEY MAY SUBMIT A GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT OR A PUBLIC COMMENT ON A SPECIFIC ITEM IN A NUMBER OF WAYS. FIRST THING IS IN PERSON BY FILLING OUT ONE OF THESE SLIPS THAT IS AT THE BACK OF THE CHAMBER AND GETTING THEM ON OVER TO OUR CITY CLERK. UH, OTHER ONE IS VIA ZOOM BY PRE-REGISTERING ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE NO LATER THAN FOUR HOURS BEFORE THE MEETING OR EMAILING NO LATER THAN FOUR HOURS BEFORE THE MEETING. ALL WRITTEN COMMENTS RECEIVED ARE DISTRIBUTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL PRIOR TO THE MEETING AND PUBLISHED ON THE CITY WEBSITE IF RECEIVED BY THE DEADLINE. WITH THAT, IF WE CAN HAVE ROLL CALL PLEASE. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER BUSH HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER RODRIGUEZ. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER MOLINA PRESENT, VICE MAYOR YAMANI. HERE, MAYOR MORRISON. UH, PRESENT. WE HAVE A QUORUM. COULD WE PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? REMAIN STANDING FOR THE INVOCATION. AND I WOULD ASK MEMBER MORINA, IF YOU WOULD LEAVE US THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. READY? BEGIN PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE IN STANDING AS WE INVOKE THE PRESENCE OF GOD ALMIGHTY AND MOST WISHES. WISHES. AND LOVING GOD, OUR FATHER IN HEAVEN, GIVE HER OF EVERY GOOD AND PERFECT GIFT, THE AUTHOR OF LIFE, WE COME TO YOU IN THE NAME OF YOUR SON, JESUS CHRIST, TO PRAISE YOU. AND TO HONOR YOU. WE THANK YOU FOR GATHERING US AGAIN IN THIS HALLOWED PLACE. AND FOR THOSE WHO HAVE GONE BEFORE US, WE THANK YOU FOR GIVING US COMMITTED COMMUNITY LEADERS AND ELECTED CITY OFFICIALS DEDICATED TO SERVE THEIR CONSTITUENTS, ESPECIALLY THE LEAST THE LAST AND THE LAWS. WE THANK YOU FOR OUR LAW ENFORCERS WHO KEEP OUR CITY AND COMMUNITY SAFE AND SECURE FOR OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT. ALWAYS WORKING TO KEEP READY 24 7 FOR ALL KINDS OF EMERGENCY WE CAN. WE CANNOT THANK YOU ENOUGH, LORD, FOR OUR CITY CLERKS, FOR OUR CITY MANAGER, CITY ATTORNEY, SEE THE TREASURER FATHER GOD AND ABOVE ALL, LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR THE SERVANT LEADERSHIP OF OUR BELOVED MAYOR RON MORRISON AND OUR VICE PRESIDENT LEADERS ANI AND ALL THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS TONIGHT, WE INVOKE YOUR PRESENCE. HOLY FATHER, LET YOUR HOLY SPIRIT MOVE IN A MIGHTY WAY TO MAKE THIS COUNCIL MEETING PRODUCTIVE AND RESPONSIVE TO THE PRESENT CHALLENGES IN OUR CITY. GRANT EACH OF THESE ELECTED PUBLIC SERVANTS EXTRAORDINARY WISDOM AND EXTRA ORDINARY ABILITY TO FIND SOLUTIONS TO THE MANY PROBLEMS THAT BESET OUR CITY, ENABLE EACH ONE OF THEM TO REACH OUT TO YOUR MERCY AND GRACE AND HELP THEM EXPERIENCE THE AMAZING SALVATION THROUGH YOUR SON JESUS CHRIST, OUR LORD IN OUR SAVIOR. FOR WITHOUT HIM WE CAN DO NOTHING. AND WE ASK THIS PRAYER IN THE NAME OF JESUS THE CHRIST. AMEN. AMEN. ALRIGHT, NEXT WE [5. PUBLIC COMMENT] GO INTO PUBLIC COMMENT AND I TAKE IT WE'VE GOT SOME ON, ON ZOOM. WHY DON'T WE GO THROUGH THOSE FIRST? OKAY. WE'LL DO THOSE FIRST. BECKY WRAP. BECKY RAPP, PLEASE UNMUTE. OH [00:05:01] YES, GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS, UM, BECKY RAPP, AND I'M A PUBLIC HEALTH EDUCATOR, AND I'M HERE TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION A RECENT INVESTIGATION UNCOVERING MORE EVIDENCE. THE CONSUMERS OF POT PRODUCTS SOLD AT PERMITTED POT SHOPS ARE NOT BEING PROTECTED SPECIFICALLY FROM BANNED PESTICIDES. THE PUBLIC HAS BEEN TOLD THE LIE THAT THE PERMITTING THAT BY PERMITTING MARIJUANA PRODUCTS, THEY COULD COUNT ON THEM BEING SAFE TO CONSUME. ACCORDING TO THE SAN FRANCISCO GATE INVESTIGATION, NUMEROUS PROBLEMS PLAGUE THE STATE'S PESTICIDE RULES, INCLUDING LABS, FALSIFYING SAFETY TESTS, AND STORES SELLING POT CONTAMINATED WITH BANNED CHEMICALS. WHEN THE DCC OR CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF CANNABIS CONTROL WAS CONTACTED REGARDING THESE LETHAL CONCERNS, THEY ADMITTED THAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY UNABLE TO TEST FOR PESTICIDE CONTAMINATION IN SOME POT PRODUCTS. PESTICIDES POSE A SIGNIFICANT PROBLEM FOR THE MARIJUANA INDUSTRY, WHILE MOST FARMERS CAN RELY ON FED FEDERALLY FUNDED RESEARCH AND REGULATIONS AROUND THE USE OF TOXINS TO KEEP BUGS AWAY. LITTLE OF THAT RESEARCH LOOKS AT THE SAFETY OF ACTUALLY SMOKING THE RESIDUE LEFT BEHIND BY PESTICIDES. IT'S CRUCIAL THAT OUR CITY MOVE TO BRING ATTENTION TO THIS ISSUE BY HOLDING THE INDUSTRY ACCOUNTABLE FOR PRODUCTS BEING SOLD, EDUCATING RESIDENTS ON THE DANGEROUS SITUATION THESE PRODUCTS POSE, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING THAT THE DCC HAS ADMITTED TO NOT BEING CAPABLE OF PROPERLY REGULARLY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MEGAN STEWART. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL PRESIDENT AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS MEGAN STEWART. I HAVE A BACKGROUND IN BOTH PUBLIC HEALTH AND SOCIAL WORK PRESIDENT. TODAY I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT THE CONTINUALLY RISING USE OF MARIJUANA AMONG PREGNANT AND BREASTFEEDING WOMEN. AS WE CELEBRATE WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH, IT'S CRUCIAL THAT WE PRIORITIZE THE HEALTH AND WELLBEING OF WOMEN WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY THROUGH EDUCATION AND AWARENESS PROGRAMS. ACCORDING TO DATA COLLECTED FROM THE NATIONAL SURVEY ON DRUG USE AND HEALTH, THE USE OF MARIJUANA AND PREGNANT WOMEN ROSE FROM 2.37% IN 2002, TWO 7%. IN 2017, PREGNANT WOMEN REPORT USING MARIJUANA TO RELIEVE STRESS AND ANXIETY. IT IS ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT PRENATAL CAN CANNABIS USE HAS RISEN SIGNIFICANTLY DURING THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC AS PREGNANT WOMEN FACE COVID RELATED STRESSORS, INCLUDING STR, SOCIAL ISOLATION, FINANCIAL, AND UM, EXCUSE ME, SORRY. FINANCIAL DISTRESS, INCREASED BURDEN OF CHILDCARE CHANGES IN PRENATAL CARE, AND CONCERNS ABOUT THE HEIGHTENED RISKS OF COVID-19. BOTH THE AMERICAN COLLEGE OF OBSTETRICIANS AND GYNECOLOGISTS AND THE AMERICAN ACADEMY OF PEDIATRICS RECOMMEND THAT WOMEN REFRAIN FROM USING MARIJUANA DURING PREGNANCY AND WHILE BREASTFEEDING, THE CONSEQUENCES OF PRENATAL MARIJUANA EXPOSURE INCLUDE COGNITIVE, SOCIAL, AND MOTOR DEFECTS. IN INFANTS, STUDIES HAVE SHOWN THAT MARIJUANA USE DURING PREGNANCY AND LACTATION CAN HAVE DETRIMENTAL EFFECTS ON BOTH THE MOTHER AND THE DEVELOPING CHILD. RESEARCH INDICATES THAT MARIJUANA USE MAY LEAD TO GROWTH RESTRICTIONS, STILLBIRTH, SPONTANEOUS, PRE PRETERM BIRTH AND ADMISSION TO NEONATAL INTENSIVE CARE UNITS. THEREFORE, I URGE THE COUNCIL TO PRIORITIZE WOMEN'S HEALTH EDUCATION AND AWARENESS PROGRAMS THAT SPECIFICALLY ADDRESS THE RISKS ASSOCIATED WITH MARIJUANA USE DURING PREGNANCY AND LACTATION. THE TRUTH IS THAT MANY WOMEN SIMPLY DO NOT UNDERSTAND THESE CONSEQUENCES. I RECENTLY WORKED WITH A BREASTFEEDING MOTHER WHO CONSIDER MARIJUANA DAILY SIMPLY BECAUSE SHE WAS UNAWARE THAT IT COULD BE TRANSFERRED THROUGH HER BREAST MILK. BY TAKING PROACTIVE MEASURES, WE CAN EDUCATE AND SAFEGUARD THE WELLBEING OF THE MOTHERS AND CHILDREN IN OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION. THANK YOU. AND MAYOR, THAT CONCLUDES THE COMMENTS ON ZOOM. OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, FROM THE AUDIENCE IN, WE, I'M GONNA CALL THREE AT A TIME AND I WOULD ASK YOU TO PLEASE LINE UP SO THERE'S NOT A LOT OF WAIT TIME IN BETWEEN EACH INDIVIDUAL. FIRST, WE HAVE, UH, NIETO BE FOLLOWED BY SHERRY GOGI TO BE FOLLOWED BY ANNETTE PCIO. GOOD EVENING. I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE, UM, THE GIVEAWAY, THE PUBLIC GIFT GIVEAWAY OF $7,143. AUTHORIZED REQUESTED BY COUNCIL MEMBER RODRIGUEZ, APPROVED BY THE MANAGER, CITY MANAGER, AND ULTIMATELY REVIEWED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY AND DEEMED TO BE CITY RELATED. I'VE LOOKED AND I PULLED THE, THE, THE INVOICES AND THE SUPPORT. I SEE THE DENIAL BY THE, BY THE MAYOR. IT'S CLEARLY NOT CITY RELATED, AND I DON'T SEE THE LOGIC OF HOW THAT HAPPENED. I CAN ONLY SAY THE CITY MANAGER WAS AN INTERN CITY MANAGER AT [00:10:01] THE TIME. HE CAME UP WITH FLIMSY GUIDELINES. SUBSEQUENTLY, HE BECAME THE ATTENDING MANAGER NOW OR THE PERMANENT MANAGER. NOW, I CAN'T SAY, YOU KNOW, THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE DESERVING OF THE TURKEYS. I SUSPECT THEY ARE, BUT I DON'T SEE ANY TERMS OF GUIDANCE ON HOW THAT WAS DETERMINED. THIS IS NOT A CITY THAT PROVIDES SOCIAL SERVICES. THIS, THAT'S A COUNTY FUNCTION, YET WE'RE DOING THIS. AND WHY DID WE DO THIS? THE ONLY THING I CAN THINK OF IN THIS AREA IS IMPLIED POLITICAL INFLUENCE FOR GIVING TURKEY WEEKS. NOW THEY HAVE A FLYER THAT WAS GIVEN. IT HAS RODRIGUEZ'S NAME ON THE TOP. IT HAS LE'S NAME ON THE TOP, AND THEY WERE GIVEN $7,000 OF CITY'S MONEY GIVEAWAY. YET THERE'S SO MANY OTHER MORE WORTHY CITY FUNCTIONS TO GIVE AWAY, AND WE'VE BEEN DENIED. AND I BELIEVE THERE'S A LOT. HIS EYEBROWS GET UP AND HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. I GOTTA TELL YOU, IT'S AMAZING HOW PEOPLE HAVE SHORT MEMORIES. BUT THIS WAS A GIVEAWAY FOR POLITICAL PURPOSES. AND THE CITY ATTORNEY, THE CITY MANAGER, APPROVED IT AND THEY REVIEWED IT AND THEY SAID IT'S CITY RELATED. THEY'RE THE ONES THAT APPROVED IT. HOW COULD THEY SAY THAT IT'S NOT CITY? HOW COULD THEY EVEN PUT THEMSELVES IN THE, IN THE, IN THE, IN THE, IN THE POSITION OF BEING INDEPENDENT TO DETERMINE WHETHER WHAT THEY APPROVED INITIALLY WAS CITY RELATED OR NOT. I SEE THAT AS A, AS A CONFLICT, INTERNAL CONTROL BREAKDOWN IN CITY GOVERNANCE. NOW, IT SETS THE CITY MANAGER UP FOR QUESTIONING A LOT OF HIS DECISIONS IN THIS AREA, IN CITY GOVERNANCE. IF HE'S GONNA CAVE INTO ONE COUNCIL PAPERS. ME, UH, MEMBER'S VIEW ON THE SLUSH FUND MEMBERS SLUSH FUND USE. HE'S GONNA DO IT FOR OTHER PURPOSES TOO. HE'S JUST, THEN I LIKE YOU, BUT YOU JUST LET US DOWN ON THIS. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE SHERRY GOGI. WE FOLLOWED BY ANNETTE CIO. WE FOLLOWED BY DUKE VALDERRAMA. GOOD EVENING MAYOR, VICE MAYOR OF CITY COUNCIL AND STAFF. I'M BACK. IT'S ABOUT SIX WEEKS ABOUT SINCE OUR FLOOD. AND I'M GONNA REMIND YOU GUYS EVERY TWO WEEKS, DON'T FORGIVE US. I APPRECIATE VICE MAYOR GETTING US THE DUMPER DUMPSTER AGAIN, 'CAUSE WE'RE STILL CLEANING OUT AND I APPRECIATE WHAT THE CITY HAS BEEN DOING. THEY'VE KEPT THE GRADE OPEN SINCE THE FLOOD WAS DONE. WE NEED TO KEEP THAT OPEN. ACTUALLY. WE NEED TO REMOVE IT. AND THAT'S WHAT MY PUBLIC COMMENT IS TODAY. LET'S PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA TO GET THIS REMOVED BECAUSE THAT DESTROYED FIVE FAMILIES AND IT'S GONNA BE A LONG TIME FOR US TO REBUILD. THERE'S A LOT MORE RESIDENTS HERE IN NATIONAL CITY, HOMEOWNERS AND RENTERS THAT NEED HELP. AND WE NEED TO, I KNOW IT'S AN INFRA INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE ARE DEALING WITH, BUT WE NEED TO BE STAYING ON TOP OF IT BECAUSE WE CAN'T GO THROUGH THIS AGAIN. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. NEXT WE HAVE ANNETTE BE FOLLOWED BY DUKEY VALDERRAMA TO BE FOLLOWED BY MANNY ANDRATI. HELLO, MY NAME IS ANNETTE PALACIO AND I'M CURRENTLY STUDENT AT SAN DIEGO STATE UNIVERSITY, UM, MAJORING IN INTERIOR ARCHITECTURE. I'M HERE TODAY TO MAKE EVERYONE AWARE OF THE OPEN HOUSES TAKING A NATIONAL CITY THIS COMING SATURDAY ON MARCH 8TH. SO FOR THIS, WE HAVE MULTIPLE SITES OPEN FOR FREE TO THE PUBLIC FROM 10:00 AM AND ENDING AT 4:00 PM SITES SUCH AS BRICK ROW, OLIVE WOOD GARDENS, ELPAR, AND NEITHER FRANK'S ICE CREAM WILL ALL BE AVAILABLE FROM THOSE TIMES. SO EVERY YEAR THE SAN DIEGO ARCHITECTURAL FOUNDATION ORGANIZES IN STAGES O SAN DIEGO OR OPEN HOUSE SAN DIEGO, AND ESPECIALLY IN NATIONAL CITY, THERE WILL BE A TOUR STARTING AT NIEDER FRANK'S ICE CREAM GOING TWO BLOCKS TO BRICK ROW. THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR EVERYONE SINCE A LOT OF THESE SITES DON'T NORMALLY OPEN UP TO THE PUBLIC. AND NITA FRANKS HAS BEEN OPEN, OR NITA FRANKS HASN'T BEEN OPEN FOR TOURS SINCE THE SPREAD OF COVID AND BRICK ROW IS CLOSED DUE TO PRIVATE RESIDENCIES. SO BOTH WILL BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC ON SATURDAY AS, UM, A RESIDENT OF BRICK ROW IS GENEROUSLY [00:15:01] OPENING THEIR UNIT FOR VISITORS. UM, SO WE CAN SEE THE INTERIORS AND EXTERIORS AND RESERVATIONS FOR THESE ARE NOT REQUIRED EVEN WITH THE TOUR. SO I HOPE TO SEE EVERYONE THERE. THANK YOU. OKAY, THANK YOU. AND NEXT WE HAVE DUKEY DERRA, UH, UH, MANNY ANDRATI, AND THEN JOAN RECON. GOOD, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. COUNCIL, CITY ATTORNEY. I JUST, I THINK YOU WERE HANDED OUT A BROCHURE OF AN EVENT THAT WE'RE HAVING, UH, THIS SATURDAY. I'M HERE IN THE CAPACITY AS THE PRESIDENT OF THE O OT AND C FOUNDATION. WE ARE HAVING A MURAL DEDICATION THIS SATURDAY AT THE CASA . IT'S A LOCAL ARTIST, UH, EDDIE. EDDIE, UH, JUAREZ. AND HE'S, UH, HAS HIS OWN STUDIO IN BALBO PARK. HE, HE WROTE SOME, WE, UH, RETAINED HIM AND, AND, UH, PURCHASED SOME, UH, MURALS THAT HE DID. AND WE'RE GONNA BE, UH, INSTALLING 'EM AT THE CASA STARTS AT 11 O'CLOCK. UH, WE HAVE OUR COUNCILWOMAN, UH, FROM THE DISTRICT. LUIS MOLINA WILL BE, UH, PRE, UH, BE BE MAKING A SMALL, UH, REPRESENTING THE COUNCIL, BUT I ALSO WANTED TO INVITE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU AND THE, AND THE TOTAL COMMUNITY. UH, WE WILL HAVE, UH, UH, MARIACHIS FOR THE FIRST COUPLE OF HOURS. WE WILL ALSO HAVE, UH, A FOOD TRUCK COMING IN, UH, AT ONE O'CLOCK. AND WE JUST WANTED TO BE ABLE TO, UH, GET REACTIVATE THE CASA AND THERE'S NOTHING BETTER THAN BY SHOWING THE HISTORY WITH THE MURALS THAT WE'RE HAVING. SO YOU'RE ALL MORE THAN WELCOME. WE HOPE TO SEE YOU THERE THIS SATURDAY. I ALSO KNOW THAT YOU GUYS HAVE YOUR QUARTERLY BREAKFASTS THIS, THIS SATURDAY ALSO, BUT, UH, IF YOU CAN COME BACK, WE WILL BE THERE TILL ABOUT FOUR O'CLOCK. SO I JUST WANTED TO WELCOME EACH ONE OF YOU AND ANYBODY ELSE FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT CAN ATTEND. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. UM, MANNY ANDRATI TO BE FOLLOWED BY JOAN RECON. THANK YOU, MAYOR MORRISON. GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL MEMBERS. UH, MY NAME IS MANUEL ADE. I'M A SENIOR PREVENTION, ESPECIALLY, UH, SPECIALIST FOR, SAY SAN DIEGO. BEEN WORKING FOR THE ALCOHOL TOBACCO DRUGS PREVENTION PROGRAM FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS. APPRO APPROXIMATELY, AND, UH, FOR THE LAST, UH, BUT WE DO SOCIAL CHANGE AND POLICY CHANGE TO TOWARDS TOBACCO CONTROL ISSUES. FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS, WE'VE BEEN BATTLING THE, UH, A CIGARETTE YOUTH EPIDEMIC AT LOCAL SCHOOLS. UH, THIS IS A NATIONWIDE PROBLEM, UH, INCLUDES NATIONAL CITY. IT'S A REAL PROBLEM THAT EVERY SINGLE DAY TEACHERS AND ADMINISTRATION ADMINISTRATORS HAVE TO DEAL WITH. UM, UH, 20 YEARS AGO WHEN I STARTED, UH, THE SMOKING RATES WERE AROUND 25%. WE WERE ABLE TO REDUCE THAT, THAT TO LESS THAN 6% IN HIGH SCHOOLS. AND NOW WE'RE SEEING AN AVALANCHE OF USAGE ON ELECTRONIC DEVICES. MM-HMM. . UM, AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW, UH, NICOTINE ADDICTION, UH, AFFECTS ESPECIALLY YOUTH, UH, BRAIN DEVELOPMENT. IT'S A HUGE CONCERN. IT, BESIDES THE FACT THAT IN THE LONG RUN, UH, TOBACCO IS THE FIRST CAUSE OF PREVENTABLE DEATH, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 500,000 PEOPLE DYING A YEAR FROM, UH, TOBACCO RELATED DISEASES. LAST YEAR COALITION PASSED THE SAFE ACT IN, UM, IN, UH, CITY OF SAN DIEGO AND THE CITY OF CHULA VISTA THAT PROHIBITED, UH, FLAVORED TOBACCO AND IT CIGARETTES. AND THEN THE STATE PASSED, UH, IN EVERY SINGLE CITY, THIS LAW THAT IS GREAT. YET THERE'S IN MANY, MANY CITIES, THERE'S NO ONE TO ENFORCE THESE LAWS. I MET WITH A FEW OF YOU, UH, LAST YEAR. UH, THANK YOU, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER VALINA DITAS, UH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER BUSH, UH, FOR YOUR TIME TO GIVE YOU SOME LOCAL DATA THAT WE'VE BEEN COLLECTING. UM, WE COMPLETED THE YOUNG ADULT TOBACCO PURCHASE SERVICE, UH, IN DECEMBER IN NATIONAL CITY. WE FOUND THAT, UH, CLOSE TO 20% OF TOBACCO RETAILERS SOLD TO THE OR UNDERAGE VOLUNTEERS. NOW YOU HAVE APPROXIMATELY 60 TOBACCO RETAILERS IN THE AREA, YET YOU HAVE A THOUSAND IN THE NORTH AND SAN DIEGO, AND THEN YOU HAVE ANOTHER 400 IN THE SOUTH. MM-HMM, , RIGHT. SO KIDS, UH, 25%. UH, IT'S, UH, IN IB, 30% IN SAN DIEGO, SO AVERAGE 25%. WE HAVE 2300 TOBACCO RETAILERS IN THE COUNTY. THAT'S A LOT OF TOBACCO RETAILERS SELLING TO MINERS AND UNDERAGE. UH, WE ARE ADVOCATING FOR AN IMPLEMENTATION OF OUR TOBACCO RETAIL LICENSE PROGRAM. THERE'S A LOT OF BENEFITS, UH, SPECIFICALLY AND THE MOST IS THE BEST BENEFIT IS THAT WE CAN DO COMPLIANCE CHECKS, WE CAN DO DECOY [00:20:01] OPERATIONS AND THEN ENSURE THAT THERE'S NO CELLS TO MINORS. UH, PART OF THE WORK THAT I DO, AGAIN, IS DATA COLLECTION. I WILL, UM, I'VE MET WITH SOME OF YOU. I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA CONTACT YOU TO, UH, SHARE THIS INFORMATION. WE'RE WORKING ALSO WITH, UH, LOCAL SCHOOLS. WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING WITH PROMO TO, UH, UH, PLEASE WRAP IT UP WORKING, UH, WITH, UH, COUNCILMAN RODRIGUEZ TO GIVE MORE INFORMATION THAN FIND A SOLUTION TO THESE ISSUE. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. UH, JOAN RICK CONN. ON JANUARY 17TH, 2023, COUNCIL MEMBER RODRIGUEZ ADVOCATED THAT THE COUNCIL GIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS A 30% RAISE, AND IT PASSED THAT DAY. HE HAD INDICATED THAT FINANCES WERE TIED AND THAT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL MONEY. HOWEVER, ABOUT SIX WEEKS LATER, ON MARCH 2ND, 2023, HE PURCHASED A SECOND HOME, A SECOND HOUSE. THIS ONE IS RIVERSIDE COUNTY PARCEL NUMBER 6 9 2 4 8 2 0 1 3. THAT'S A FOUR BEDROOM, THREE BATH HOUSE. AND THE CITY OF INDIA PURCHASED PRICE WAS $499,000, ACCORDING TO THE COUNTY ASSESSOR'S OFFICE. AND HE DIDN'T LEAVE IT THOUGH, IN HIS AND HIS WIFE'S NAME. ABOUT TWO WEEKS LATER, ON MARCH 14TH, 2023, HE MOVED IT INTO AN LLC THAT'S CONTROLLED BY HIM AND HIS WIFE CALLED LA LA HACIENDA. DIO, LET ME SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME. LA HACIENDA. DIO, LLC. NOW, WHY DID HE MOVE IT THERE SO THAT Y'ALL HOPEFULLY WOULDN'T FIND IT? UM, LA HACIENDA DIO WAS ORIGINALLY BASED AT HIS HOME HERE IN NATIONAL CITY, BUT THEN IT GOT MOVED TO A POST OFFICE BOX OVER ON ROSECRANS. WHY DID HE MOVE IT THERE? SO THAT HOPEFULLY Y'ALL WOULDN'T FIND IT. NOW, WHEN I WAS HERE LAST COUNCIL MEETING, AND I TRIED TO KEEP MY PROMISES, I SAID WE WERE GONNA TALK ABOUT WHO WAS THE LANDLORD ON THE DEUS THAT DIDN'T RAISE THEIR HAND WHEN THEY WERE GIVEN A CHANCE TO DO THAT. THERE'S YOUR LANDLORD. UM, UNLESS HE WOULD LIKE TO CALL A STAFF MEMBER OF THE CITY OF INDIO NAMED DANIELA BALLOON A LIAR. IT TURNS OUT THAT THE CITY OF INDIO HAS A PROGRAM WHERE IF YOU WANT TO DO AIRBNB TYPE, UH, RENT OUTS OF PROPERTIES, SOMETIMES CALLED VRBO, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SPECIAL PERMIT FOR IT. AND I CONTACTED DANIELA BALLOON AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO SHARE WITH ANYBODY WHO WANTS IT. THE EMAIL THAT SHE SENT ME ON FEBRUARY 22ND, 2024, VERIFYING THAT HIS PROPERTY CARRIES A SHORT-TERM RENTAL PERMIT. SO, WHAT DO WE HAVE? WE HAVE A PERSON WHO DOES NOT RAISE THEIR HAND WHEN THEY'RE ASKED IF THEY HAVE A PROPERTY THAT THEY RENT OUT. WE HAVE A PERSON WHO HIDES IT UNDER AN LLC NAME AND DOESN'T WANNA KEEP IT IN THEIR OWN NAME. AND WHO HIDES THE LLC AT A POST OFFICE BOX? SO THERE'S YOUR LANDLORD. ALRIGHT, THAT'S THE LAST OF OUR PUBLIC SPEAKERS. AND LET'S SEE, WE HAVE NO OTHER, NO OTHER SPEAKERS STILL IN THE, UH, ZOOM? NO. OKAY. I KNOW SHE HAD SOME OTHER NAMES THERE. OKAY. JUST IN CASE. OKAY, NEXT [6.1 Introduction of New City Employees] WE GO TO, UH, PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS. AND FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE SOME INTRODUCTIONS OF SOME NEW CITY EMPLOYEES. SO I AM GOING TO, OKAY. OKAY. YEAH. GONNA FIGHT OVER THAT. WHO GETS TO DO THE INTRODUCTION? WHO, WHO GETS TO GO FIRST? . THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL. UM, BRIAN'S GONNA GO FIRST. OKAY. OH, OKAY. NO, YOU GO. YOU POINTED OUT. SO HERE, I'M NOW, NOW YOU'RE ON. OKAY, THERE WE GO. GOOD EVENING. BRIAN HADLEY, UH, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER. IT'S MY EXTREME PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE OUR NEW BUILDING OFFICIAL TONIGHT. UH, SAM MARON AND SAM, COME ON UP. SAM, YOU DON'T GET, YOU DON'T GET TO HIDE BACK THERE. YEAH. SAM SAM'S OUR NEW BUILDING OFFICIAL. HE LOOKS LIKE HE JUST GRADUATED LIKE 12TH GRADE, BUT HONESTLY, HE'S, HE IS VERY EXPERIENCED AND, UH, HE'S WELL CERTIFIED. HE HAS A BACHELOR'S DEGREE FROM ARIZONA STATE IN URBAN PLANNING. HE'S A CERTIFIED BUILDING OFFICIAL, AND A FEW MORE. AND, UH, HE STARTED HIS CAREER, UH, WORKING WITH A HOA AND DESIGN, YOU KNOW, AND DESIGN, REVIEW AND DESIGN SERVICES. AND THEN [00:25:01] HE MOVED ON AS A PERMIT TECHNICIAN WITH THE, UH, CITY OF SAN BERNARDINO, WHICH IS NOT AN EASY TASK. AND SO HE WORKED THERE FOR A WHILE, AND THEN HE MOVED UP TO PERMIT SERVICES SUPERVISOR. AND THEN SOON, YOU KNOW, SOON THEREAFTER, HE FOUND HIMSELF AS ASSISTANT BUILDING OFFICIAL. AND THEN AFTER A TIME HE FOUND HIMSELF, HE WAS THE BUILDING OFFICIAL. SO, UM, HE'S, HE'S GOT A LOT OF, UH, EXPERIENCE UNDER HIS BELT FOR, FOR HIS YOUTH, REALLY. AND I'M REALLY, REALLY, UH, UH, PROUD TO HAVE HIM HERE. I THINK HE'S GONNA BE A TREMENDOUS ASSET TO THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY FOR YEARS TO COME. HIS, I I SAY HIS FORTE IS CUSTOMER SERVICE, AND SO I THINK THAT'S GONNA REALLY SHINE THROUGH HERE IN, IN THE COMING MONTHS. AND, UM, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO SAM IF YOU'D LIKE TO . YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. I APOLOGIZE. I WASN'T EXPECTING TO SPEAK TODAY, BUT , UH, GOOD EVENING. UM, VERY EXCITED TO BE HERE FOR THE CITY AND NATIONAL CITY. UM, AS BRIAN DESCRIBED, UM, I'VE GOTTEN, UH, SOME GOOD EXPERIENCE UNDER MY BELT, AND I'M EXCITED TO BRING THAT HERE TO NATIONAL CITY. UH, ALSO, AS BRIAN MENTIONED, FORTE BEING CUSTOMER SERVICE. UH, I UNDERSTAND WHAT IT TAKES TO SERVICE CITY, SO I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS CITY IS IN NEED OF A GOOD CUSTOMER SERVICE AND THE ROLE THAT I AM IN NOW. SO I EXPECT TO DO MY BEST FOR YOU AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM, MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, UM, UH, THANK YOU. AND, UH, JUST AS WE, WE'VE HIRED, UH, SAM TO PROVIDE THAT CUSTOMER SERVICE TO OUR EXTERNAL, UH, AUDIENCE OF BUSINESSES AND RESIDENTS, HOMEOWNERS, PROPERTY OWNERS, UM, THIS IS AN EXCELLENT HIRE. WE'RE VERY EXCITED, VERY EXCITED ABOUT WHAT SAM CAN, CAN DO FOR THE CITY IN THE NOW AND IN THE INTO THE FUTURE. UM, WE ALSO MADE A, A NEW HIRE, UH, LYDIA HERNANDEZ, IF I CAN ASK HER TO COME UP. OUR NEW HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR AND LYDIA, LYDIA WILL BE PROVIDING THAT CUSTOMER SERVICE THAT WE BADLY NEED TO OUR IN TO OUR INTERNAL CUSTOMERS, THE CITY STAFF, THE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, AND THE CITY STAFF. AND, UM, LYDIA, UH, COMES, UH, HAS A, UH, UH, BACHELOR OF ARTS AND HUMAN RESOURCE MANAGEMENT FROM WESTERN INTERNATIONAL UNIVERSITY IN TEMPE, UH, ARIZONA. I THINK SHE'S ALMOST DONE WITH HER MASTER'S DEGREE. UM, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, I INTERVIEWED LYDIA SEV SEVERAL TIMES, AND I, I CAN SEE, AND IT SHINES THROUGH. AND AS YOU GET TO KNOW HER, SHE IS A DOER. SHE IS A WORKING, SHE'S GONNA BE A WORKING DIRECTOR. I WOULD'VE HIRED NO ONE LESS THAN THAT. A HARDWORKING DIRECTOR, SOMEONE THAT HAS, UM, YOU KNOW, ENDURED WORKING FOR THE, UH, CITIES OF, UH, A LARGER CITY LIKE, UH, UM, CITY OF, UH, UH, SAN BERNARDINO, 700 EMPLOYEES, CITY OF BUENA PARK, 268 EMPLOYEES. UM, SHE'S AN EXPERT IN BENEFITS ADMINISTRATION, RECRUITMENT EMPLOYEE, AND LABOR RELATIONS, ADMINISTRATION, RISK MANAGEMENT. UM, UM, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, I, I GOT THE SENSE FROM HER THAT SHE IS GOING TO, SHE UNDERSTANDS THE, THE PREDICAMENT WE'RE IN. SHE UNDERSTANDS, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE NEED AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED, UH, A LEADER AND PROVIDING CUSTOMER SERVICE TO OUR CITY, EMPLOYEES, MAYOR, AND CITY COUNCIL. AND, UM, IN TURN, WHEN EMPLOYEES ARE HAPPIER, WE'RE MORE PRODUCTIVE. I KEEP SAYING THAT. SO LYDIA IS A CRITICAL PIECE OF OUR, OF OUR, UH, NEW TEAM. UM, AND I WELCOME HER. THANK YOU, LYDIA. IT'S HER FIRST DAY TODAY. UH, SHE'S, SHE'S AT . WE PUT HER TO WORK. WE PUT HER TO WORK RIGHT AWAY. SHE BARELY GOT SWORN IN AND WE WERE ALREADY GIVING HER ASSIGNMENTS TO, TO WORK ON, THINGS TO WORK ON. AND THE LOOK ON HER FACE, I JUST GOTTA SAY THE LOOK ON HER FACE WHEN WE GAVE HER THE ASSIGNMENTS AND WHAT WE'RE WORKING AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 'EM, SHE'S LIKE, THE FACE IS JUST LIKE, THIS IS A BREEZE. YOU KNOW, SHE'S BEEN THERE, DONE THAT. SO I AM VERY EXCITED. THANK YOU. LYDIA, IF YOU CAN SHARE A FEW WORDS. SORRY, I WASN'T PREPARED FOR THIS, UM, , BUT, UH, I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY THAT I AM BEING GIVEN HERE. AND I HOPE THAT I CAN PROVE TO YOU THAT MY 30 YEARS OF PLUS EXPERIENCE IN HUMAN RESOURCES AND MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENTS WILL SHINE THROUGH AND MAKE [00:30:01] THIS A BETTER CITY SO THAT WE CAN SHORTEN THE TIME ON OUR RECRUITMENT PROCESS, ON OUR HIRING OF NEW EMPLOYEES, POSSIBLY ENHANCE THE BENEFITS FOR THE EMPLOYEES AND DETERMINE WHAT IS NEEDED AND TO MAKE YOUR DREAMS AND YOUR VISIONS FOR THE CITY COME TRUE. SO I AM VERY MUCH APPRECIATIVE OF THIS, AND I'VE MADE A COMMITMENT TO THE CITY, UM, THAT I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO TAKING HOLD OF IT AND, AND MAKING THINGS BETTER. SO I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. LITTLE NERVES, . THANK YOU. AND SHE DID THAT, THAT'S WONDERFUL. AND, AND SHE DID MAKE THAT COMMITMENT BY MOVING TO THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY. SO, UM, YES, AGAIN, THANK YOU, UH, LYDIA. AND, UM, THAT'S IT, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL FOR OUR TWO NEW EMPLOYEES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, NEXT WE GO ON AND [6.2 Women's History Month ] WE HAVE OUR PROCLAMATION. AND THIS MONTH IS WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH. AND SO WE HAVE SOME LADIES WHO LIVE HERE IN NATIONAL CITY, BUT WHO ARE CREATING THEIR OWN HISTORY WITH OWNING AND OPERATING THEIR OWN BUSINESSES. SO I'M GONNA ASK THEM TO COME FORWARD AND SAY, FIRST OF ALL, WE GOT SANDY BRAHAS, UH, WE HAVE SHERRY YOGI, UH, VANESSA LOPEZ, YARA GARCIA, AND DIANA EZ. WISH IT I SEE HER THERE. SHE'S ALRIGHT. NOW. WE COULD HAVE LITERALLY BROUGHT HUNDREDS, BUT THESE WERE FIVE THAT ARE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE REALLY SHINED. AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S, AND PARTICULARLY WHEN YOU LIVE HERE IN TOWN AND YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU DECIDE YOU WANNA MAKE A DIFFERENCE, AND YOU WANNA MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN YOUR LIFE AND YOUR LIFE OF PEOPLE AROUND YOU. AND, AND FOR MANY OF US, THE BEST WAY WE MAKE A DIFFERENCE IS PROVIDING SERVICE AND PROVIDING BUSINESS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. AND THAT'S WHAT THESE FIVE HAVE DONE. SO, I'M GONNA READ SOMETHING HERE REAL QUICK, AND THEN WE WILL EMBARRASS EACH ONE OF THEM, . EACH MARCH WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY TO HONOR THE GENERATION OF TRAIL BA BLAZING, WOMEN AND GIRLS WHO HAVE BUILT OUR NATION, SHAPED OUR PROGRESS, AND STRENGTHENED OUR CHARTER AS PEOPLE. THIS WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH, WE REFLECT ON THE ACHIEVEMENTS OF WOMEN AND GIRLS ACROSS THE CENTURIES AND PAY TRIBUTE TO THE PIONEERS WHO PAVED THE WAY. LET US RECOMMIT TO THE FIGHT AND HELP REALIZE THE DEEPLY AMERICAN VISION OF A MORE EQUAL SOCIETY, WHERE EVERY PERSON HAS A SHOT AT PURSUING THE AMERICAN DREAM. IN DOING SO, WE WILL ADVANCE ECONOMIC GROWTH, OUR HEALTH AND SAFETY, AND THE SECURITY OF OUR NATION AND THE WORLD THROUGHOUT OUR HISTORY. DESPITE HARDSHIPS, EXCLUSIONS, AND DISCRIMINATION, WOMEN HAVE STRIVED AND SACRIFICED FOR EQUITY AND EQUALITY IN COMMUNI IN COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND ACROSS THE WORLD. WOMEN OF EVERY RACE, CLASS, AND ETH ETHNIC BACKGROUND HAVE MADE HISTORIC CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE GROWTH AND STRENGTH OF THE CITY, OF NATIONAL, CITY, AND THE NATION. WOMEN HAVE BEEN LEADERS NOT ONLY IN SECURING THEIR OWN, UH, RIGHTS OF SUFFRAGE AND EQUAL OPPORTUNITY, BUT ALSO IN THE ABOLITIONIST MOVEMENT, EMANCIPATION MOVEMENT, THE INDUSTRIAL LABOR MOVEMENT, CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT, THE MOVEMENTS WHICH CREATE A MORE FAIR AND JUST SOCIETY. NATIONAL WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH IS AN IDEAL TIME FOR ALL CITIZENS TO REFLECT AND RECOGNIZE WOMEN'S STRUGGLE TO OBTAIN EQUAL EDUCATIONAL RIGHTS, AND TO HIGHLIGHT THE NUMEROUS CONTRIBUTIONS OF WOMEN ACROSS NATIONAL CITY AND OUR NATION. AND SO TODAY WE RECOGNIZE FIVE WHO ARE NATIONAL CITY RESIDENTS FOR THEIR REMARKABLE JOURNEY AS BUSINESS OWNERS THROUGHOUT THEIR TRIUMPHS HURDLES AND SACRIFICES, THEY HAVE MOVED MOUNTAINS TO ACHIEVE SUCCESS AND HAVE PERSEVERED WITH UNW UNWAVERING DETERMINATION. AND WE PROCLAIM TODAY WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH AND SO ON. BEHALF, DON'T, DON'T, VANESSA, DON'T START CRYING. DON'T DO THAT. . AND, UH, SO WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION FOR EACH ONE OF YOU. [00:35:01] AND SHE GOTTA GO. OH, SHE GOTTA GO THERE. DIANA, WE HAVE ONE FOR YOU AND YADIRA, ONE FOR YOU, VANESSA. YOU THINK? VANESSA, WE HAVE ONE FOR SHERRY AND FOR SHERRY. OKAY. AND I'M GONNA ASK EACH ONE OF YOU GET UP AND WE'LL TAKE PICTURES IN A MOMENT. BUT FIRST I'D LIKE TAKE JUST A MOMENT TO TELL JUST A BRIEF, BRIEF BIT ABOUT YOUR STORY. OKAY. WHO'S GONNA START FIRST? COME ON. I KNOW I, YOU FIVE ARE NOT BASHFUL. I KNOW THAT. HELLO EVERYBODY. MY NAME'S YIDA GARCIA. I AM AN, UM, THE OWNER OF THE STATE FARM INSURANCE FRANCHISE. AND, UM, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR, FOR THIS. IT REALLY MEANS A LOT. UM, AS YOU GUYS KNOW, AS WOMEN, WE DO STRUGGLE. WE REALLY DO. AND I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO MY FAMILY FOR SUPPORTING ME. YOU KNOW, MY MOM SAID SOMETHING TO ME THAT STUCK. SHE SAID, UM, COULD DO ANYTHING YOU'D PUT YOUR MIND TO. AND I BELIEVED HER. AND HERE I AM. AND, UM, I, I'M JUST VERY BLESSED TO HAVE AMAZING FAMILY AND GREAT FRIENDS IN THIS JOURNEY. I'VE MET FRIENDS THAT BECAME FAMILY. AND I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR EVERYBODY, FOR EVERYBODY'S SO PART. THANK YOU. I'M NOT SHY, SHERRY, I'M A FARMERS AND ORIENTATION. SO WE'RE COMPETITORS, BUT NOT REALLY. I'M ALSO THE FOUNDER, AGENT W AND IT'S A FOUNDATION THAT'S BASED RIGHT HERE IN NATIONAL CITY. NATIONAL CITY HAS BECOME A COMMUNITY AND OUR FAMILY AND OUR FRIENDS. AND I APPRECIATE DISHONOR AND I LOVE SHARING IT WITH ALL MY FRIENDS. 'CAUSE I MOST , MOST . SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD AFTERNOON. I HOPE YOU CAN HEAR ME. MY NAME IS SANDY RAJA. I AM THE CO-FOUNDER, OWNER OF SAN SANTOS IN BARRIO LOGAN, WHERE WE HAVE A VERY RICH COMMUNITY OF CULTURE AND CHIMO. I AM VERY PROUD AND HONORED TO RECEIVE THIS AWARD TODAY. WELL, NOT AWARD, BUT PROCLAMATION. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND I INVITE YOU TO COME OUT AND CONTINUE TO SUPPORT SMALL BUSINESSES. UM, WE DO STRUGGLE. IT'S BEEN VERY HARD. IT'S BEEN VERY DIFFICULT. UM, I CAN TELL YOU FROM MY EXPERIENCE, I OPENED MY BUSINESS TWO WEEKS BEFORE COVID HIT. YEP. AND I'M STILL STANDING HERE. SO I PROVED THAT WHEN YOU PERSEVERE, YOU DEFINITELY CAN MAKE IT OUT THERE. AND IT WOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE IF IT WASN'T FOR FRIENDS AND FAMILY THAT HAVE BEEN SUPPORTIVE THROUGHOUT THE LAST FOUR YEARS BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN IN THE ASSISTANCE FOR FOUR YEARS. SO I INVITE YOU GUYS TO COME OUT, CHECK US OUT SAN SANDOZ. WE'RE ON ALL THE SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS AND WE CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY AS WELL. THANK YOU SO MUCH. HELLO EVERYBODY. WHEN JOSIE, UM, LET ME KNOW ABOUT THIS. I THINK SHE KIND OF DIDN'T REALLY TELL ME WHAT IT WAS, SO I THOUGHT THERE WAS GONNA BE A PROCLAMATION. I WAS JUST GONNA BE THE ONE UP HERE TO, TO HOLD IT FOR THE PICTURE. UM, BUT I'M, I'M TRULY GRATEFUL, THANK YOU TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, RON MORRIS AND JOSIE. UM, I'M TRULY HONORED TO, TO RECEIVE THIS RECOGNITION. I, I IT'S GONNA BE, UM, A MOTIVATOR FOR ME TO CONTINUE SERVING MY COMMUNITY. ITS PEOPLE AND ITS BUSINESSES, AND I CAN'T THINK OF A GREATER COMPLIMENT. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MY NAME IS DIANA. I'M THE OWNER OF DIANA'S AUTO REGISTRATION SERVICES. THANK WE ALL. OKAY. WE'LL GET YOU RIGHT UP RIGHT UP HERE. OKAY. [00:40:04] MOMS COME UP AND WE, WE, WE GOT MOMS PICTURE. WOW. ALL THAT'S RIGHT. BEHIND EVERY SUCCESSFUL MOTHER OR WOMAN THERE IS A MOM, THAT'S FOR SURE. THAT'S OH, MAKE SURE THE PODIUM DOESN'T FLO. YEAH. MY KIDS COME, GO RIGHT AHEAD. LIGHT AGENDA TONIGHT. WE'LL DO THAT. WE'LL GIVE A LITTLE LINE ALLOWANCE THERE. MY TWO BOYS ARE MY GRANDSON. ALRIGHT. CONGRATULATIONS FOR SHE, JONATHAN, GET OVER HERE. OR ELSE ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY. WAIT TO RESTROOM. THEY WENT TO THE RESTROOM. OH, WELL MAYBE WE CAN COME BACK. OKAY. UH, AFTER, LIKE WHEN THEY COME BACK. SURE. YEAH. EXCITED. WE CAN DO THAT. WE CAN DO THAT. ALRIGHT. ARE, ARE, ARE ARE THEY BACK? WE CAN DO IT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. OKAY. WHAT SMILE, VANESSA. OH, OKAY. ONE MORE. OH, THEY'RE HERE. OH, YES. YEAH. OH. MAYBE STAND IN FRONT OF THE PODIUM. YEAH. THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CONGRATULATIONS. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. NEXT WE GO [7.1 Small Business Administration (SBA) Disaster Center] ON INTO OUR, UH, PRESENTATION. WE HAVE A STAFF REPORT ON THE SMALL BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION DISASTER CENTER. AND YEP, THERE HE IS. I WAS LOOKING FOR HIM. GOOD EVENING MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CITY STAFF. UH, BEFORE I BRING UP, UH, JAVIER KO, UH, FROM THE SMALL BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION, I WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE. UM, NEXT WEEK WE'RE GONNA START OUR, UH, KICKOFF MEETING, UH, REGARDING PUBLIC ASSISTANCE. UM, SO I AM HOPING TO COME BACK IN APRIL AND GIVE YOU A REPORT ON WHAT OUR COSTS KIND OF LOOK LIKE, UM, AND WHAT THAT SHARE, UH, DOES FOR US. UH, FROM THE, THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. I TRIED TO GET, UH, FEMA TO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE HERE TONIGHT. UH, THEY DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH PERSONNEL ON STAND ON STANDBY TO DO THIS, BUT I'M TRYING TO GET THEM TO COME OUT ON, UH, MARCH 19TH, THE NEXT, UH, COUNCIL MEETING. SO WITH THAT, I AM GONNA BRING UP, UH, JAVIER KO, UH, FROM SMALL BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION. THEY STARTED OPERATIONS HERE IN NASHVILLE CITY ON, UH, FEBRUARY 26TH. UM, AND THEY'VE BEEN HERE SINCE THEN. AND HE'S BEEN A KEY, UH, MEMBER OF THE SMALL BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION, UH, PROVIDING, UH, OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND OUR BUSINESSES. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS JAVIER KO. I'M A PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER WITH THE US SMALL BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION OFFICE OF [00:45:01] DISASTER RECOVERY AND RESILIENCE. AND WE ARE A FEDERAL AGENCY PROVIDING DISASTER ASSISTANCE. AS YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA PRO REQUESTED DISASTER ASSISTANCE FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. UH, SO WE ARE HERE AND WHAT WE ARE PROVIDING IS LOW INTEREST FEDERAL DISASTER LOANS TO BUSINESSES OF ALL SIZES. MO MOST PRIVATE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS, HOMEOWNERS AND RENTERS. UH, FOR BUSINESSES, WE HAVE, UH, TWO, WE ARE OFFERING TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF LOANS. ONE IS FOR PHYSICAL DAMAGES, SO IF THEY HAD ANY, ANY DAMAGES TO THEIR PROPERTY, MACHINERY, EQUIPMENT, OR ANYTHING SIMILAR TO THAT. UH, WE HAVE UP TO, UH, $2 MILLION TO COVER THOSE, UM, LOSSES. UH, WE ALSO HAVE AN, A DIFFERENT ONE, WHICH IS, UH, ECONOMIC INJURY DISASTER LOAN, WHICH IS SIMILAR TO THE COVID I THAT WE HAD. UH, THIS IS A WORKING CAPITAL LOAN TO HELP THE BUSINESSES MAINTAIN THEIR DOORS OPEN. WE MAY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY DON'T CLOSE THE DOORS JUST BECAUSE THEIR LACK OF, UH, FUNDS OR CAPITAL TO, SO THEY CAN USE THE LOANS FOR, YOU KNOW, TO PAY FOR WATER, ELECTRICITY, UH, AND EVEN PAYROLL. THE LIMIT THERE IS AS WELL AS $2 MILLION, OR IT COULD BE A COMBINATION OF THE TWO UP TO $2 MILLION. UH, FOR HOMEOWNERS WE ARE OFFERING IS, UH, A LOAN UP TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO REPAIR OR REPLACE THEIR PRIMARY RESIDENCE. IF THEY HAVE A SECONDARY HOME AND THEY'RE USING IT AS A RENTAL INCOME, AS LONG AS THEY'RE SHOWING IT IN THEIR TAX RETURN, THEY CAN ALSO APPLY AS A BUSINESS FOR HOMEOWNERS AND RENTERS. WE ARE ALSO HAVE A LOAN TO REPLACE ANY PERSONAL PROPERTY THEY LOST. THAT COULD BE FURNITURE, IT COULD BE APPLIANCES, OR IT COULD BE EVEN A PERSONAL VEHICLE AS WELL. UH, AS OF NOW, WE HAVE FEMA. YOU KNOW, USUALLY ONE OF THE THINGS I WANNA STRESS OUT A LOT FOR THE HOMEOWNERS AND RENTERS, WE HAVE A SEQUENCE OF DELIVERY. SO THEREFORE, HOMEOWNERS AND RENTERS, THEY MUST REGISTER WITH FEMA FIRST BEFORE THEY CAN COME TO THE UNI, TO THE SMALL BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION. WE DO HAVE THREE CENTERS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO DISASTER RECOVERY CENTERS AND ONE BUSINESS RECOVERY CENTER. UH, NOW THE REASON WHY WE WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW ABOUT THESE LOANS IS, UH, AGAIN, IS TO, FOR THEM TO RECOVER. UH, WE DO NOT CHARGE A FEE TO SPILL OUT THE APPLICATION. THE TERMS COULD BE AFTER 30 YEARS, AND THEY MAY BE ABLE TO QUALIFY FOR REFINANCING ON A CASE PER CASE BASIS, UH, RELOCATION ON A CASE PER CASE BASIS. AND THEY CAN ALSO REQUEST ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR MITIGATION PURPOSES. SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IF, UM, NEXT TIME, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THIS, OR MAYBE IT COULD BE A DIFFERENT EVENT HAPPENS, THEY CAN, THEY WON'T SUFFER AS MUCH DAMAGES AS THEY DID THIS TIME. AND NOW, UH, JUST TO MENTION THEIR INTEREST RATES THAT WE ARE OFFERING, AGAIN, THESE ARE LOANS, SO THEY HAVE TO BE REPAID. THEY'RE NOT FORGIVABLE, UH, IS 2.6879999999999997% FOR HOMEOWNERS AND RENTERS, 4% FOR BUSINESSES, AND TOOK 3.25% FOR NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS. UH, THE FIRST YEAR THEY DO NOT HAVE TO MAKE ANY PAYMENTS, SO THEREFORE THE FIRST 12 MONTHS IS INTEREST FREE. I MEAN, IS 0% INTEREST. SO THEREFORE, EVEN IF THEY DON'T MAKE ANY PAYMENTS, NO INTEREST WILL BE ACCUMULATED. WE DO HAVE A DEADLINES THEY NEED TO APPLY BEFORE APRIL 19TH FOR THE, SORRY, FOR THE PHYSICAL DAMAGES. AND FOR THE ECONOMIC INJURY IS THEY HAVE UNTIL NOVEMBER 19TH TO APPLY. SO THE BEST THING WE CAN RECOMMEND IS FOR THEM TO COME IN PERSON TO ONE OF THE CENTERS THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE. BUT IF THEY CANNOT OR THEY WANT TO GO ONLINE AND DO IT THEMSELVES, THEY CAN ALSO GO TO LENDING.SBA.GOV. UH, WE ALSO HAVE AN 800 NUMBER THEY CAN CALL, WHICH IS 806 5 9 2 9 5 5. AND AS OF NOW, WE HAVE ALREADY APPROVED, USUALLY IT TAKES ABOUT THREE WEEKS FOR APPROVALS. AS OF NOW, WE HAVE APPROVED MORE THAN $265,000. SO THAT'S, UM, JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION. AND ALSO WE HAVE, EXCUSE ME, ABOUT 78%, UH, REFERRALS FROM FEMA. SO THEY REFER ABOUT 78% OF THE PEOPLE IN HOMEOWNERS AND RENTERS TO SBA. SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THOSE INDIVIDUALS AS PART OF THE SEQUENCE OF DELIVERY, UH, THAT THEY APPLY FOR SBA LOANS, EVEN IF THEY DON'T HAVE, IF THEY DON'T WANT THE LOAN, [00:50:01] THEY STILL SHOULD APPLY. BECAUSE IF THEY, FOR SOME REASON THEY, THEY DO NOT QUALIFY FOR THE SBA LOAN, THEN THEY CAN ALWAYS BE REFERRED BACK TO FEMA AGAIN. YOU KNOW, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO NEED THE ASSISTANCE, THEY HAVE SIX MONTHS, ONCE THEY'VE BEEN APPROVED, THEY CAN, THEY HAVE SIX MONTHS TO DECIDE WHETHER THEY WANT THE LOAN OR NOT. SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION RIGHT AT, RIGHT THERE AND THEN. AND FOR NOW, I THINK THAT'S WHAT I HAVE. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU MR. ALKO, FOR THE INFORMATION. THIS IS, UH, IT SOUNDS LIKE THESE ARE VERY FAVORABLE TERMS FOR PEOPLE THAT NEED THE LOANS. UH, I WANTED TO GET SOME QUES, UH, MY QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH, UH, THE INDIVIDUALS THAT QUALIFY FOR THESE LOANS, DO THEY HAVE TO BE PEOPLE THAT ARE IMPACTED BY THE RECENT FLOODING? OR COULD IT BE INDIVIDUALS THAT JUST WANT TO PREVENT FUTURE FLOODING FROM THEIR HOMES EVEN THOUGH THEY WEREN'T NECESSARILY IMPACTED THIS TIME AROUND? YES. THEY HAVE TO BE IMPACTED BY THE, UH, IN THIS CASE WAS THE SEVERE STORMS AND FLOODING THAT JUST HAPPENED. UH, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE IF, IF YOU WANNA QUALIFY FOR MITIGATION, THAT'S ACTUALLY IS GONNA BE A PERCENTAGE OF THE VERIFIABLE LOSSES. SO IT'S 20% OF THE VERIFIABLE LOSSES. SO YOU WOULD HAVE TO QUALIFY FOR THE SBA LOAN OR BE IMPACTED AND QUALIFY. OKAY. AND THE INDIVIDUALS THAT, UH, QUALIFY FOR THESE LOANS, THEY HAVE TO BE REFERRED THROUGH FEMA. OKAY. SO NOW, IF THERE ARE BUSINESS OWNERS, THEY DO NOT HAVE TO GO. WE USE, RECOMMEND THAT THEY REGISTER WITH FEMA JUST BECAUSE WE WANNA KEEP ACCOUNT, NOT NECESSARILY BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH FEMA, BUT WE, SO BUSINESS OWNERS, THEY JUST HAVE, THEY CAN JUST GO TO THE SBA HOMEOWNERS AND RENTERS? YES, WE RECOM, THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH FEMA FIRST AND REGISTER WITH FEMA BECAUSE THEY NEED THE RE THE FEMA REGISTRATION NUMBER IN ORDER TO REGISTER WITH SBA. OKAY. UH, YOU MENTIONED RENTERS, RENTERS WOULD QUALIFY FOR THESE LOANS AND THEY WOULD NOT NECESSARILY BE TO REPAIR THEIR HOMES, BUT TO REACQUIRE LOST APPLIANCES, THINGS LIKE THAT. CORRECT. THEY, FOR RENTERS, THEY CAN QUALIFY UP TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO REPLACE ANY PERSONAL PROPERTY THEY LOST. IT COULD BE FURNITURE, IT COULD BE A PERSONAL VEHICLE OR APPLIANCES. MM-HMM. . YES. VERY GOOD. UH, AND YOU MENTIONED THERE ARE THREE CENTERS, UH, HERE IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY? YES. CORRECT. AND WOULD YOU KINDLY PLEASE, UH, LET EVERYBODY KNOW THE LOCATION OF THE ONE HERE IN NATIONAL CITY? OKAY. SO YES, IN NATIONAL CITY, WE DO HAVE THE BUSINESS RECOVERY CENTER. AND DO YOU WANT ME TO MENTION THE ADDRESS? MM-HMM. OR, OKAY. IT'S EIGHT 80 NATIONAL CITY BOULEVARD. UH, THAT'S AT THE SOUTHWESTERN COLLEGE. WE ALSO HAVE A DISASTER RECOVERY CENTER THAT'S AT 6 41 SOUTH BOUNDARY STREET. THAT'S AT THE MOUNTAIN VIEW COMMUNITY CENTER. AND THE THIRD ONE IS AT THE SPRING VALLEY LIBRARY, WHICH IS AT, AT 8 36 CAMPTON STREET IN, IN SPRING VALLEY. GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I, I APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION. I JUST WANNA ALSO MENTION THE HOURS, BECAUSE I THINK THAT NOW THE, YOU WANTED, I, I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD FOR INDIVIDUALS TO ALSO KNOW THE HOURS. SO FOR THE BUSINESS RECOVERY CENTER, IT'S, UH, MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, 6:00 AM 6:00 AM , I DON'T KNOW. SO THAT WAS KIND OF EARLY FINE. OH, UH, OKAY. I I, I DON'T WANT, I DON'T WANNA SAY THIS, BUT I, I HEAR IT SAYS 6:00 AM TO 7:00 PM OKAY. I NEED TO VERIFY THAT, UH, FOR THE, THE VISIT, THE DISASTER RECOVERY CENTERS IS, OH MY GOD, I KNOW IT WAS 10 TO SEVEN MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY. SO YEAH, THIS ONE, I'M, YEAH. OKAY. FOR SOME, YEAH. OKAY. YEAH, IT'S 10:00 AM TO 7:00 PM MONDAY THROUGH FRI TO, IT'S SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. SORRY, SEVEN DAYS. MONDAY THROUGH SUNDAY. OKAY. WELL, WE WON'T HOLD YOU TO THE HOURS, BUT, UM, THANK YOU FOR SHARING THE INFORMATION AND I DO ENCOURAGE ALL PEOPLE THAT, UH, WOULD, YOU KNOW, WOULD BENEFIT FROM THIS TO, TO APPLY AS YOU MENTIONED, THE GRACE OR THE PERIOD TO MAKE THE DECISION TO ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, TAKE THE LOAN WOULD BE SIX MONTHS. AND THAT'S HELPFUL. YES. UM, BUT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO KNOW THAT THIS RESOURCE IS OUT THERE. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UH, MEMBER YOANI. OH, OKAY. UM, THANK YOU. UM, MR. KO, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, UM, YOUR, UH, PRESENTATION. YES. UM, THE, UH, QUALIFICATION FOR THE LOAN, IS IT STREAMLINED QUALIFICATION? AND WHAT'S THE MAXIMUM LOAN AMOUNT? UH, DO YOU WANNA KNOW THE, THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OR YEAH. MAXIMUM LOAN AMOUNT. HOW'S THE QUALIFICATION IS STREAMLINED OR YOU HAVE TO DO THE ROBUST, UM, QUALIFICATION. OKAY. SO TO, OKAY, [00:55:01] SO ONE OF THE QUALIFICATIONS, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A, A CREDIT SCORE ACCEPTABLE TO SBA, WE DON'T HAVE A MINIMUM. OKAY. BUT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE ALSO GO BASED ON WHETHER YOU CAN PAY, MAKE THE PAYMENTS FOR THE LOAN AS WELL. OKAY. AND THAT'S GONNA BE ON A CASE PER CASE BASIS BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT. THEIR SITUATION IS DIFFERENT. MM-HMM. . YES. THANK YOU. AND DO YOU WANT TO KNOW THE, THE AMOUNTS MAXIMUM? YEAH, MAXIMUM NO AMOUNT. OKAY. THE, THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT FOR BUSINESSES FOR ANY PHYSICAL DAMAGES, $2 MILLION FOR THE ECONOMIC INJURY IS $2 MILLION. OR IT COULD BE A COMBINATION OF THE TWO UP TO $2 MILLION FOR HOMEOWNERS IS THE MAXIMUM IS $500,000. AND FOR HOMEOWNERS AND RENTERS, FOR ANY PERSONAL PROPERTY LOSSES IS A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS. THANK YOU SO MUCH, SIR. I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TOO, OUR BUSINESSES IN THE AREA. THANK YOU, SIR. WELCOME. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. HAVE A NICE, VERY GOOD PRESENTATION. UH, NEXT WE [8. REGIONAL BOARDS AND COMMITTEE REPORTS] GO TO REGIONAL BOARDS AND COMMITTEE REPORTS. I WILL START DOWN HERE ON MY LEFT. MR. RODRIGUEZ. NOTHING REPORT. THANK YOU. OKAY. MEMBER BUSH. UH, YES, I ATTENDED THE, UH, LKO, UH, MEETING, UH, BOARD MEETING TODAY'S TUESDAY. SO THAT WAS YESTERDAY. YEP. OKAY. SO, UH, YESTERDAY, SO THE COUPLE ITEMS THAT THEY DISCUSSED, NATIONAL CITY ONE WAS A PROJECT THAT WE HAD ALREADY APPROVED LAST YEAR, UM, IN THE BONITA AREA. SO IT WAS THE ANNEXATION. SO THAT WENT THROUGH FOR A HOUSING PROJECT, FOR SALE HOUSING. UM, SO THAT WENT THROUGH, UH, BUT I WENT TO SPEAK ON, UH, THEIR, UH, THE STAFF REQUEST TO ACCEPT THEIR REPORT ON WHETHER THEY WILL BEGIN REGULAT OR BEGIN OVERSIGHT OF THE PORT, THE SAN DIEGO, UH, PORT, UH, DISTRICT. AND SO, UH, I WENT TO SPEAK IN, IN FAVOR OF THAT, SPECIFICALLY ABOUT MUNICIPAL SERVICES. AND SO, UH, WE, UH, WHAT I SPOKE ABOUT WAS OUR CITY'S ISSUES IN, UH, 2021 WITH, UH, THE, UH, MUNICIPAL SERVICE, UH, AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE, UH, WITH THE PORT AND THE ARRANGEMENT AND THE UN UNCLARITY AND THE METHODOLOGY INCLUDING, UH, THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, CITIES LIKE IMPERIAL BEACH GET 5 MILLION, UH, AND WE GET 1.2 MILLION EVEN THOUGH WE'RE SIGNIFICANTLY, UH, UH, UH, LARGER PRODUCE MORE, UH, REVENUE. SO IT, I QUESTIONED THE, AND WE HAVE QUESTIONED THE CITY OF THEIR METHODOLOGY AND PROCESS. UH, SO, UH, THE, UH, BOARD VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT OVERSIGHT PROCESS. SO I DO WANT TO ADD, AND I, I DID TALK TO THE MAYOR ABOUT THIS ALREADY, UM, INCLUDING SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES. AND SO I DO ASK, UH, STAFF, I, I CAN CONNECT YOU TO THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR. I THINK THE, UH, YOU KNOW, SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE GET MORE, UM, PUBLIC DOLLARS SPECIFICALLY FOR OUR POLICE AND FIRE. UM, UH, FROM THE PORT. UH, I THINK THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT PART OF THE PROCESS. UM, LKO HAS EXPERTISE IN THIS AREA DOING MUNICIPAL SERVICE REVIEWS, AND, UH, THEY'RE A NEUTRAL THIRD PARTY. SO I REALLY THINK THAT THEY COULD HELP, UH, NATIONAL CITY MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING OUR FAIR SHARE, FAIR SHARE WHEN IT COMES TO, UH, THOSE RESOURCES. SO, UM, I CAN CONNECT, UH, STAFF OR CITY MANAGER VIA EMAIL. SO IF WE COULD JUST MAKE THAT CONNECTION AND SEE WHAT IS THE PROCESS I DO, I WOULD EXPECT, UM, THAT, UH, AS A CITY WE ARE REQUIRED AND WE DO PAY DUES TO LAFCO. AND I DON'T THINK AMAN MUNICIPAL SERVICE REVIEW, UM, IS, I BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED A SPECIAL PROJECT, WHICH LIKELY WE WOULD NEED TO AS A CITY, UH, PARTLY PAY FOR. BUT I THINK IT'S A VERY WORTHY INVESTMENT. UM, I, I WOULD ESTIMATE, UH, THAT IT WOULD, IT'D BE IN THE TENS OF THOUSANDS RANGE, BUT, UH, I WOULD REALLY ENCOURAGE, UM, OUR CITY STAFF AND US AS A CITY TO, UH, DO, UH, TO GO THIS ROUTE BECAUSE I, I THINK IT'S A, A GOOD INVESTMENT. WE, YOU KNOW, COULD THEORETICALLY, HOPEFULLY GET, UM, MAYBE MILLIONS BACK DEPENDING ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT THAT FORMULA IS DETERMINED FOR OUR PUBLIC SAFETY DOLLARS. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE STAFF AWARE OF THAT. AND THEN ANY FOLLOW UP AFTER, YOU KNOW, WITH, UH, THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS WE COULD DO. THANK YOU, JOHN. MEMBER MOLINA. THANK YOU, MAYOR. YES. UM, I DO WANNA PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE SANDAG BOARD OF DIRECTORS COMMITTEE, UH, AS WELL AS THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE. WE DID MEET FEBRUARY 9TH WHERE WE SPOKE, UM, ABOUT THE OTAI MESA EAST AND THE PROGRESS OF THAT NEW, UH, CROSS BORDER ENTRY. THIS IS A, UH, OTAI MESA EAST IS GOING TO BE A NEW PORT OF ENTRY THROUGH, UH, FROM MEXICO INTO THE UNITED STATES. AND, AND THERE'S A LOT OF PROGRESS THAT'S HAPPENING THERE. A LOT OF COLLABORATION AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL. AS YOU MAY IMAGINE, A SOFT OPENING IS NOW PUT ON HOLD BECAUSE OF THAT TYPE OF COLLABORATION AND GETTING ALL OF THE DUCKS IN A ROW SO THAT, UM, DO EXPECT MORE UPDATES ON THAT OTAI MESA EAST. UM, WE ALSO DID GET A, [01:00:01] UM, SNEAK PEEK AT THE, UM, REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION PLAN THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, IS A GREAT FOCUS FOR SANDAG. AND I AM VERY HAPPY TO SEE THAT. UM, A LOT OF THE SUGGESTIONS THAT THE, THIS BOARD, THE EXISTING BOARD HAD MADE IT INTO THE 2025 PLAN, ONE OF WHICH, UH, IS A, UH, INSTITUTING A FOCUS ON A HEALTH POLICY. AND SO, UM, SPECIFICALLY I WAS IN SUPPORT OF THIS BECAUSE TRANSPORTATION NEEDS, UM, ARE ABSOLUTELY CONNECTED TO THE HEALTH OF A COMMUNITY. AND IF, UM, WE'RE NOT CONSIDERING THE HEALTH OF A COMMUNITY AS WE ARE CONSIDERING, UH, UM, DECISIONS ABOUT TRANSPORTATION, I THINK THAT WOULD BE FAR LACKING, UH, IN RESPONSIBILITY. AND I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE ONE OF THE FOCUSES FOR THE PLAN COMING UP. UH, WE ALSO MET FEBRUARY 23RD THERE, THE FOCUS, WE HAD A VERY GOOD, UM, DISCUSSION ON THE AIRPORT TRANSIT CONNECTION THAT IS PLANNED. UM, THIS IS GOING TO BE, UM, THERE'S STILL A LOT OF, UH, CONCEPTS TO THIS IDEA. AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND. THERE ARE SEVEN CONCEPTS THAT WERE PROPOSED JULY, 2023. AND WE NEED TO, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE STAFF AT SANDAG AND OTHER INDIVIDUALS HAVE TO, UM, BRING THAT NUMBER DOWN. UM, IT, IT'S, IT'S TOO DIFFICULT TO, UH, STUDY THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS OF SEVEN CONCEPTS. AND SO THERE ARE, UM, THERE'S MODELING THAT'S TO BE DONE TO SEE WHICH OF THESE CONCEPTS IS THE BEST TO MOVE FORWARD WITH. AND THEN, OF COURSE, MORE DECISIONS BY THE BOARD TO COME REGARDING THE AIRPORT TRANSIT CONNECTOR. AND LAST, OH, WE ALSO DID HAVE A DISCUSSION ON STATE ROUTE 1 25. THIS IS THE TOLL ROAD THAT GOES THROUGH, UM, EAST ULA VISTA. THERE IS, UH, GREAT INTEREST FROM THE REPRESENTATIVES FROM OUR NEIGHBOR, UH, TO REMOVE THE TOLLS OFF OF, UH, STATE ROUTE 1 25 AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. LIKE IT LOOKS LIKE THE SOONEST THAT THAT COULD POTENTIALLY HAPPEN WOULD BE 2027. AND SO THERE ARE, UM, UH, IDEAS AND PLANS FOR HOW TO ACHIEVE THAT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. AND LASTLY, OUR NEXT MEETING WILL BE THIS FRIDAY, UH, MARCH 8TH. IT IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE OUR BOARD RETREAT TAKING PLACE IN, UH, IMPERIAL BEACH. IT'S ALSO, UH, INTERNATIONAL WOMEN'S DAY, AND THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO JOIN US AT THE IMPERIAL BEACH LOCATION. THE RETREAT TAKES PLACE OR TAKES THE TIME IS FROM EIGHT 30 TO THREE 30, AND I'M SURE WE WILL BE DISCUSSING A LOT OF THE ISSUES THAT ARE IMPACTING IMPERIAL BEACH, UH, AND THEN BY EXTENSION THE ENTIRE REGION. THANK YOU MAYOR ANI. THANK YOU MAYOR. UM, NO REPORTABLE ITEM FOR SAN DIEGO COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY FOR SWEETWATER AUTHORITY. UM, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE OUR BUDGET STUDY, UM, UM, ON MARCH 7TH AT THE SWEETWATER AUTHORITY, UM, MAIN OFFICE ON THE 21ST OF, UM, LAST WEEK ACTUALLY, SOME OF US AS DIRECTORS OF THE SWEETWATER AUTHORITY WENT TO, UM, MEET WITH LEGISLATORS IN, UM, SACRAMENTO TO, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN TO ADVOCATE FOR, UM, SUPPORT IN, UH, SOME OF OUR PROJECTS LOCAL. THAT'S ALL MY REPORT, MAYOR. THANK YOU. OKAY. ALRIGHT. AND I HAVE NO ITEMS REPORT, AND I'D LIKE TO CALL UP OUR, UH, PORT COMMISSIONER AND WHILE SHE'S CALLING, COMING UP, UH, ITEM 7.2, WHICH [7.2 Annual Report - CPRC] IS ON OUR AGENDA. OH MY GOD. , UH, UH, WITH THE, UH, ALL OF THIS, THE, UH, CCP, UH, CPRC, UH, ANNUAL REPORT THAT IS GONNA BE CONTINUED UNTIL OUR MEETING ON THE 19TH THAT'S HEAVIER. YES. I THINK THAT'S OKAY. OH, I JUST WANNA SAY HAPPY ELECTION DAY EVERYONE. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL, CITY STAFF, RESIDENTS WHO ARE HERE, ARE LIVE VIA ZOOM. I AM SANDY ANO YOUR REPORT COMMISSIONER FOR THE CITY OF NASHVILLE CITY HERE TO PROVIDE YOU UPDATES ON YOUR 34 MILES OF PUBLIC S AND SO, AS YOU NOTICE, YES, THIS IS A BIG BINDER. THIS IS 2000 PAGES. AND THE REASON WHY I BROUGHT IT HERE TODAY IS BECAUSE LAST WEEK, ON FEBRUARY 28TH, WE AT THE BOARD OF PORT COMMISSIONERS CONVENED FOR A PIVOTAL PORT MASTER PLAN UPDATE MEETING, A GATHERING THAT MARKED A TURNING POINT IN OUR COMMITMENT TO REIMAGINING THE FUTURE OF THE PORT OF SAN DIEGO. THIS WAS NOT JUST ANOTHER MEETING, IT WAS A DECLARATION OF OUR COLLECTIVE, UH, DEDICATION TO CREATING A REPORT THAT REFLECTS THE VALUES AND ASPIRATIONS OF OUR COMMUNITY IN THE 21ST CENTURY AND BEYOND. THE FINAL DRAFT OF REPORT, MASTER PLAN UPDATE AS PRESENTED IN OUR, UH, RECENT ACHIEVEMENTS, EMBODIES A SIGNIFICANT LEAD FROM THE 1980 PREDECESSOR. THIS DOCUMENT, UH, CRAFTED THROUGH EXTENSIVE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND THOUGHTFUL DELIBERATION SETS FORTH A VISION THAT DEEPLY, UH, INTEGRATES ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE AND EQUITY INTO OUR CORE PLANNING PRINCIPLES. IT IS A BLUEPRINT DESIGNED TO [01:05:01] NAVIGATE THE PRESSING CHALLENGES OF CLIMATE CHANGE AND BRIDGE THE SOCIAL GAPS THAT HAVE LONG BEEN OVERLOOKED. OUR UPDATED, UH, MASTER PLAN IS A BOLD REFLECTION OF OUR COMMITMENT TO FOSTERING A POOR ENVIRONMENT WHERE ECONOMIC VITALITY, COMMUNITY WELLBEING, AND ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP CAN ACTUALLY COEXIST. SO TODAY WE HAD OUR BOARD RETREAT, UM, AND AT THE BOARD RETREAT WE HOSTED IT AT, UH, IN CITY OF CORONADO. AND AT OUR BOARD RETREAT, WE ARE FOCUSED ON ECONOMICS AND PORT PLANNING, AND WE HAD, UH, PRESENTATIONS FROM EACH OF OUR STAFF FROM THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS. UH, AS YOU KNOW, AT THE PORT OF SAN DIEGO, WE HAVE THE DEPARTMENT OF REAL ESTATE, THE DEPARTMENT OF MARITIME, UH, HUMAN RESOURCES. AND SO WHAT WE, WHAT WE DID TODAY IS HAD AN ECONOMIC OUTLOOK OF THE FUTURE OF TODAY IN THE FUTURE, AND LISTENING TO STAFF AND KIND OF WHAT THEY, UH, ARE PLANNING TO DO, YOU KNOW, NOW AND FUTURE AND KIND OF GETTING OUR FEEDBACK AND HOW WE CAN SUPPORT THEM. AND SO, UM, IN CLOSING NEXT TUESDAY, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A REGULAR BOARD MEETING. AND AT THE BOARD MEETING, WE'RE SCHEDULED TO CONSIDER SELECTING THE BIDDER, UH, FOR THE ZERO MISSION VEHICLE TRUCK STOP. OUR AGENDAS ARE RELEASED 72 HOURS, UH, BEFORE OUR MEETING. AND OUR MEETING WILL BE, LIKE I SAID, TUESDAY, MARCH 12TH, 1:00 PM UH, YOU ARE ALL WELCOME TO ATTEND OUR MEETING OR YOU CAN, UH, PARTICIPATE VIRTUALLY. AND THE LINK IS ONLINE ON OUR AGENDA WEBSITE. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. WELL, YOU DID MENTION SELECTION DAY, BUT I'M GLAD YOU'RE NOT RUNNING FOR JUDGE 'CAUSE I THOUGHT YOU WERE GONNA THROW THE BOOK AT US . SERIOUSLY, HOW BAD IS THAT? 2000 PAGES. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SANDY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, NEXT WE GET INTO [9. CONSENT CALENDAR] OUR CONSENT CALENDARS. BEFORE WE BEGIN, ARE THERE ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE ANY CONFLICTS OR ANY OR EX PARTE DISCLOSURES ON ANY OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS? DO NONE CONTINUE. THERE IS CONSENT ITEMS AND THIS IS OUR, UH, NINE SERIES. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT. ALRIGHT, UH, MAYOR? YES, I WOULD LIKE TO PULL 9.4 AND 10.1 JURY TIMES. I WASN'T HERE YET. OKAY, WELL THE 10.1 IS NOT, IS NOT IN CONSENT. NO. 9.1. OKAY. 9.4. SORRY, MAYOR. JUST 9.4. OKAY. ALRIGHT, SO THIS IS FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE CALEN, REMAINDER OF THE, UH, CALENDAR. UM, AND SO CAN WE HAVE, WE HAD A MOTION AND I SECOND THAT MOTION, MR. OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE CALENDAR, MINUS 9.4. PLEASE VOTE. IT WON'T, IT WON'T MOVE. MAYOR. OH, THERE IS, HUH? OH, IT DID. MOTION SECOND. MOTION CARRIES. YEP. OKAY. NINE [9.4 Partial Termination of a Notice of Restriction Related to Union Tower for a Conditional Use Permit (CUP) Approved in 2011.] FOUR, WHICH IS THE PARTIAL TERMINATION OF A NOTICE OF RESTRICTION RELATED TO THE UNION TOWER FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. MR. MAYOR, MY QUESTION WAS A CUP THAT WAS, UM, APPROVED IN 2011 MM-HMM. . AND AS YOU KNOW, IN 2011, I WASN'T HERE YET, SO I WANTED TO HEAR OH, OKAY. LISTEN, SENT TO THAT, UM, CUP AND HOW IT'LL IMPACT THE CURRENT, UM, DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL HAPPEN THERE. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL STAFF, AND THE PUBLIC MARTIN READER, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. THANK YOU. IS, IT IS A MOUTHFUL. EH, THAT NOT AS GOOD AS VICE PRESIDENT. THAT'S OKAY. US GETTING HIM BANNED. SO, THE, UH, AS YOU KNOW, THE OLIVE WOOD CLUBHOUSE, WHICH RESIDES IN THIS LOCATION, HAS BEEN USED FOR, UH, FOR MEETINGS AND SUCH FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. AND THERE WAS OFFICIALLY A CUP THAT WAS APPROVED FOR THAT PUBLIC ASSEMBLY, USED BACK IN 2011, IT, UH, IT REFERS TO A, THE CORNER PART OF THAT ENTIRE APARTMENT COMPLEX. IT'S ON, IT WAS ON ITS OWN PARCEL, STILL ON ITS OWN PARCEL. UM, BUT WHAT THEY'RE ON IN THE PROCESS OF DOING RIGHT NOW, AS PART OF THE FIRST PHASE OF THE UNION TOWER PROJECT IS TO, THEY'VE MADE A A LOT LINE ADJUSTMENT THAT WILL BASICALLY SPLIT OFF THE NEW DEVELOPMENT PARCEL ALL BY ITSELF SO THAT THEY CAN DO THE FINANCING FOR IT. UH, SPECIFICALLY AS A RESULT OF THAT LOT LINE ADJUSTMENT, THERE IS A 15 FOOT, UH, PORTION OF PROPERTY THAT RUNS FROM NORTH TO SOUTH ALONG THAT SMALL CORNER ALONG THE PARKING LOT BASICALLY, OF, UH, OF THE OLIVE WOOD CLUBHOUSE DOESN'T MAKE MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE, UH, TO US NECESSARILY, BUT IT DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO THE DEVELOPER AND THEIR CONSTRUCTION FINANCING [01:10:01] COMPANY. SO IT WAS A CLOUD ON THE TITLE. THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE NOTICE OF RESTRICTION FOR THAT CUP DID NOT AFFECT OUR NEW PARCEL IN ANY WAY WHATSOEVER. SO THAT'S WHAT THIS HAS DONE. SO WE HAVE PUT THIS THROUGH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, AND WE'VE AGREED THAT IT WON'T CHANGE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE CURRENT CUP OR ANY OF THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. OKAY. I MOVE TO APPROVE THIS 9.4 SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, SO YOU NO DISCUSSION, PLEASE VOTE. MOTION CARRIES. OKAY. NEXT WE GO TO, [10.1 Ordinance for Introduction – Prevailing Wage Requirement for Traffic Control Workers] UH, 10.1. THIS IS AN ORDINANCE FOR INTRODUCTION, PREVAILING WAGE REQUIREMENTS FOR TRAFFIC CONTROL WORKERS. AND, UH, AND THIS IS ENTITLED, UH, ORDINANCE FOR THE CITY OF NA OF THE CITY COUNCIL, THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY CALIFORNIA, ADDING, UH, CHAPTER 2.78, TRAFFIC CONTROL WORKER PREVAILING WAGES TO TITLE TWO OF THE NATIONAL CITY MUNICIPAL CODE TO ESTABLISH A TRAFFIC CONTROL WORKERS PREVAILING WAGE AND STAFF REPORT. YES, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, COMMUNITY MEMBERS, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. MY NAME IS MARTA JUAREZ. I'M THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR ENGINEERING AND PUBLIC WORKS. I AM REPRESENTING OUR DEPARTMENT TODAY. UM, AS OUR DIRECTOR, STEVE MANGANELLO WAS UNABLE TO JOIN US. UM, WE ARE BRINGING THIS ITEM TO YOU TONIGHT FOR A FIRST READING AND INTRODUCTION OF AN ORDINANCE THAT WILL REQUIRE THAT TRAFFIC CONTROL WORKERS BE PAID PREVAILING WAGE WHEN THEY WORK WITHIN THE CITY'S PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAYS. UH, OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS, WE'VE HEARD CONCERNS FROM THE COMMUNITY, SOME COMPLAINTS ABOUT TRAFFIC CONTROL SAFETY IN OUR STREETS. UM, AND CITY STAFF HAS FRANKLY ALSO WITNESSED SOME OF THIS, UH, INSTANCES WHERE TRAFFIC CONTROL WAS NOT PROPERLY IMPLEMENTED OR AT ALL, UH, BY CONTRACTORS DOING WORK FOR PRIVATE PROJECTS. SO, THE INTENDED GOAL OF THIS TYPE OF ORDINANCE, AS FOR OUR STREETS TO BE SAFER AS A RESULT OF HAVING SKILLED, TRAINED AND HIGHLY QUALIFIED INDIVIDUALS IMPLEMENTING TRAFFIC CONTROL MEASURES, UH, THE ENGINEERING AND PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT HAS OVERSIGHT AND RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE WORK WITHIN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY FROM A PERMITTING AND INSPECTION STANDPOINT. SO, WE WORK CLOSELY WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, UH, TO REVIEW SIMILAR ORDINANCES THAT WERE SIMILARLY RECENTLY PASSED BY NEIGHBORING JURISDICTIONS, INCLUDING THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO, CITY OF SAN DIEGO, AND CHULA VISTA, AND DRAFTED THE LANGUAGE FOR THIS ONE HERE. UM, AS YOU MAY ALREADY KNOW, THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL RELATIONS REQUIRES PUBLIC CONTRACTS TO PAY PREVAILING WAGES. SO THAT MEANS THAT ALL CIP PROJECTS, UH, FROM CONTRACTS ISSUED BY THE CITY ALREADY COMPLY. UH, AND SO THIS ORDINANCE WILL HELP HOLD PRIVATE CONTRACTORS WORKING IN THE RIGHT OF WAY TO THESE SAME STANDARDS. UH, THIS WILL REDUCE, UH, THE RISKS OF, UM, TO THE PUBLIC AND PROTECT THE SAFETY OF ALL WHO ARE WORKING ON WALKING, DRIVING, OR RIDING IN OR NEAR CITY STREETS. AND SO THIS, UH, ORDINANCE SEEKS TO AMEN TITLE TWO OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE AND WILL BECOME EFFECTIVE 30 DAYS AFTER ADOPTION. UH, SHOULD WE, SHOULD IT BE ADOPTED AFTER WE BRING IT BACK FOR A SECOND HEARING AND ADOPTION. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS ON SUBSTANCE TO THE STAFF? THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MS. JUAREZ. UM, MY QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH, UH, SO WE ARE ADDING THIS TO OUR MUNICIPAL CODE. ARE ALL CITIES ACROSS CALIFORNIA HAVING TO DO THIS TO THE MUNICIPAL CODE? N NO. UM, I'M GONNA DEFER TO OUR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY WHO WORK CLOSELY WITH OUR DIRECTOR TO DRAFT THIS. SO, NO, I, I BELIEVE THE JURISDICTIONS WE'VE SEEN HERE LOCALLY ARE THE FIRST THAT I'VE SEEN IT. OKAY. AND NATIONAL CITY'S CHOOSING TO DO THIS TO ALIGN WITH, UH, THE OTHER CONSTRUCTION JOBS AND, AND MAKING SURE THAT, WELL, THAT'S QUITE AN INITIATIVE. I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THAT. AND I DO, UH, I AM IN FAVOR OF THIS, MAYOR, IF YOU'RE READY FOR A, UH, MOTION, I'M HAPPY TO. WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA, IT'S A PUBLIC, UM, WELL, OKAY. OKAY. YOU, YOU HAVE COMMENT. OKAY. WE DO HAVE SOME SPEAKERS ALSO. SO, UH, LET, LET ME JUST SAY WE HAVE HAD A REQUEST FOR A COUPLE OF, UM, ADAPTATIONS. I'M GONNA CALL 'EM, UM, OR A PHONE COME UP HERE. THERE YOU GO. UH, AND THAT WAS, UH, LET ME JUST THROW THAT OUT SO THAT YOU GUYS CAN BRING THAT INTO THE CONVERSATION. UM, UNDER THE EXEMPTIONS, UH, REQUEST THAT THE ADDED EXEMPTION TO HAVE FOR ONE DAY EVENTS THAT ARE BEING PUT TOGETHER UNDER, [01:15:01] UH, UNDER A NONPROFIT SUCH AS A PARADE OR WHATEVER, ALTHOUGH IN READING THE, BOTH THE ORDINANCE AND THE LANGUAGE HERE, EVERYTHING TALKS ABOUT IT BEING THIS INVOLVING ROAD MAINTENANCE OR, UH, OR CONSTRUCTION OR MAINTENANCE. SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD REALLY APPLY TO, UH, PARADES, BUT THAT, THAT'S BEEN ONE OF THE REQUESTS FOR, FOR A POSSIBLE, UH, CHANGE. THE OTHER ONE IS THE, UH, UH, INCLUDING THE DEFINITION TO ALSO, UH, CON, UH, CONTROL WORK THAT INCLUDES THE SETTING UP OF TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES AND NOT JUST THE DIRECT YOU OF THE TRAFFIC, BUT ACTUALLY SETTING UP, UH, THE STUFF THAT WOULD CONTROL TRAFFIC. SO I THINK THAT'S THE OTHER THING THAT'S, THAT HAS BEEN REQUESTED. UM, WITH THAT, UM, MS. MONEY, YOU HAD QUESTIONS, UM, YOU SAID WE HAVE SPEAKERS, MAYOR, WE DO HAVE SOME SPEAKERS, BUT IF YOU'VE GOT ANYTHING SPECIFIC TO THAT, AND THESE ARE, THESE ARE PUBLIC HEARINGS, SO WE ARE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE PUBLIC, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC. CAN I LISTEN TO THIS? SURE, WE CAN DO THAT. ALRIGHT. EXCUSE ME. THE, UH, UM, SO AT THIS POINT I'D LIKE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND WE DO HAVE, UH, ONE INDIVIDUAL, UH, KEVIN BAEZ. YOU WANT, HAVE YOU GOT HIM ON, ON THE ZOOM? WE DO. KELVIN, YES. GOOD EVENING. UH, MAYOR MORRISON AND, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS KELVIN BARRIOS. I'M THE DIRECTOR OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS FOR THE LABORERS UNION, UH, LOCAL 89. UH, WE HAVE ABOUT 5,000 MEMBERS HERE IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY WITH SEVERAL HUNDRED THAT LIVE IN THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY. UM, WE'RE, I'M CALLING ON BEHALF OF MY BUSINESS MANAGER, VALENTI CETO, IN SUPPORT OF THIS ORDINANCE. UH, WE, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH OTHER CITIES AND OTHER JURISDICTIONS ACROSS THE COUNTY TO GET THIS ORDINANCE ADOPTED. UM, IF NATIONAL CITY DOES ADOPT THIS ORDINANCE, UH, VIRTUALLY THE ENTIRE SOUTH BAY OF THE COUNTY, UH, WOULD BE UNDER THIS ORDINANCE. SO IT DOES HELP TO KIND OF JUST HAVE THE SAME STANDARDS, UH, FROM JURISDICTION TO JURISDICTION. UH, WE'RE SUPPORTIVE OF THE, UH, AMENDMENTS THAT, UH, MAYOR MORRISON IS PROPOSING AS WELL. SO WE'RE, WE'RE IN SUPPORT OF THE ORDINANCE AS, UH, AMENDED AGAIN, AND, UH, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. THAT CONCLUDES THE ZOOM COMMENTS. OKAY. SO THAT'S ALL OF THE PUBLIC. THEN I'M GONNA ASK IF WE COULD HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SO MOVE MR. MAY SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. AND, OOPS, SORRY ABOUT THAT. GET THE BOARD UP THERE. THERE WE GO. OKAY. PLEASE VOTE. MOTION CARRIES. OKAY, SO NOW THEN THIS IS THE TIME FOR QUESTIONS OR WHATEVER. AND MR. MONEY, I BELIEVE YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. UM, I WAS, I WAS READING THIS AND I WAS TALKING TO OUR COUNCIL AND OUR CITY MANAGER EARLIER WITH REGARDS TO, UM, THIS WORKERS BEING, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, CONTRACTORS HIRED UNDER THESE CONTRACTORS. SO THESE CONTRACTORS ARE HIRED BY THE CITY AND THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE TO WHO, WHOEVER THEY HIRE. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I THINK THIS, THIS ORDINANCE WILL JUST MAKE OUR, JUST LIKE WHAT OUR, UM, ASSISTANT CITY ENGINEER, UM, SAID, TO MAKE OUR STREETS SAFER. AND, UM, MY FIRST QUESTION EARLIER, WHEN, WHEN I WAS IN, WHEN I WAS READING THIS, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, LAST NIGHT I SENT, UH, AN EMAIL TO OUR CITY MANAGER, SAID, ARE THESE FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES? UM, AND THEN I WAS EXPLAINED LATER ON THAT THIS ARE, UM, THIS ORDINANCE WILL, UM, WILL, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, HAVE AN ARM CITY WILL HAVE AN ARM LENGTH TO THIS, TO THIS, UM, TO THIS WORKERS. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THE CONTRACTORS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEM. UM, AT THE SAME TIME MAKING OUR STREET SAFER FOR THIS WORKERS TO BE ON THE STREET, HELPING, YOU KNOW, I IN OUR CITY WITH OUR CIP. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I, I, UH, I WOULD HOPE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I THOUGHT WHEN I SAW IT, OH, WE'RE CREATING JOBS, BUT THEN, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, NOW THE MORE I UNDERSTOOD IT, IT IS, YOU KNOW, I MEAN FOR THE SAFETY OF OUR STREETS. AND, AND SO, UM, I I HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF IT, MAYOR. THANK YOU. OKAY. YEAH. AND, AND THIS IS DEALING WITH, THESE ARE DEALING NOT NECESSARILY WITH, UH, THESE ARE DEALING WITH, WITH PRIVATE CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS. MM-HMM. . SO, AND IT WOULD DEAL WITH OTHER UTILITIES, IF, SHALL WE SAY, IF THEY HAVE, IF, IF THEY HIRE OUT SOMEONE, SHALL WE SAY SWEETWATER AUTHORITY, UH, DIGGING, DOING TRENCHING OR SOMETHING ALONG THIS LINE, UH, WIRED AT AND T ALL THE ONES THAT ARE DOING ALL THE, ALL [01:20:01] THE DIFFERENT STUFF ALONG THIS LINE. SO NOT ONLY WOULD IT BE THE CONTRACTORS THAT WE HIRE, BUT UH, IT WOULD ALSO BE THEN ALL THE PRIVATE ONES. AND I DON'T KNOW IF HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE GOT CAUGHT SOMETIMES WITH SOME OF THESE INDIVIDUALS AND YOU'RE DRIVING UP AND YOU DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA. THEY DON'T SEEM TO HAVE ANY IDEA WHICH WAY YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO GO, EITHER, UH, BECAUSE THEY'RE TALKING ON THEIR PHONE OR THEY'RE SETTING UP THEIR NIGHT JOB, OR I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING. AND, UH, AND YOU COULD TELL THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY VERY WELL TRAINED IN HOW TO DIRECT TRAFFIC. AND IT'S BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, PRIVATE CONTRACTORS, SOMETIMES THEY JUST HIRE THE CHEAPEST PERSON THEY CAN TO STAND OUT THERE WITH A, WITH A GO NO GO SIGN. AND, UH, AND IT GETS, GETS RATHER CONFUSING. AND SO THIS MAKES THOSE CONTRACTORS MORE RESPONSIBLE. YES, THANK YOU, MAYOR. AND SO THEY WOULD BE NOTIFIED OF THAT WHENEVER THEY PULL THEIR PERMITS TO DO THE WORK, THAT THIS IS, THIS IS THE REQUIREMENT. THEY HAVE TO HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TRAINING MM-HMM. AND HAVE TO BE CERTIFIED AND EVERYTHING ELSE. AND THEN THEY'D HAVE TO BE PAID A CERTAIN AMOUNT. AND I GUARANTEE YOU, IF A, IF A CONTRACTOR'S GOTTA PAY SOMEONE MORE MONEY, THEN INSTEAD OF AS CHEAP AS THEY CAN GET AWAY WITH, THEY'RE GONNA MAKE SURE THE PERSON'S LEAST IS QUALIFIED IF THEY'RE GONNA, IF THEY'RE GONNA DO THAT. AND THAT, I THINK THAT'S WHAT, WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. SO, UH, THAT'S, THAT THE ONLY, I THINK THE ONLY QUESTION, OR AT LEAST THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE, IS ON THE TWO CONSIDERATIONS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP, UM, FOR PAR POSSIBLY AMENDING THIS. AND WE CAN DO THAT HERE AT THE FIRST READING, UM, IF WE WANT TO. AND AS I SAY, ONCE AGAIN, THE EXEMPTION WAS ONE, WAS ONE ABOUT THE ONE DAY EVENTS PUT TOGETHER BY A NONPROFIT. BUT MY, AND, AND MAY, MAYBE YOU CAN COME FORWARD. 'CAUSE I, I KNOW YOU WERE LOOKING AT THESE TWO ISSUES AND GIVE US SOME INSIGHTS ON 'EM. SO I LOOKED AT THAT. UM, THE COUNTY'S THE ONLY ONE THAT HAS THAT LANGUAGE IN THERE. THOSE SPECIFIC LANGUAGES IN THE, WHEN THEY'RE IDENTIFYING THEIR EXCLUSIONS, THE COUNTY HAS AN EXCLUSION FOR AN EVENT SPONSORED BY A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION THAT MAKES USE OF A HIGHWAY FOR NO MORE THAN ONE DAY. MM-HMM. , UM, CHULA VISTA AND SAN DIEGO DON'T HAVE THAT. UM, IT COULD BE BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE DEFINITIONS ARE ON WHAT IS COVERED BY THE SUPPLY. RIGHT. SO FOR OUR ORDINANCE, OUR ORDINANCE APPLY IS TO TRAFFIC CONTROL WORK AS REQUIRED BY A PERMIT. A PERMIT IS A PERMIT THAT REQUIRES, IS A PERMIT FOR CITY WORK IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY REQUIRING TRAFFIC CONTROL WORK. I DON'T KNOW IF AN EVENT PERMIT WOULD INVOLVE WORK IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. SO IT MAY NOT BE COVERED BY THIS ANYWAY, JUST BASED ON THE, OUR DEFINITION OF THE PERMIT VERSUS THE COUNTY'S PERMIT DEFINITION, WHICH MAY BE BROADER. RIGHT. AND, AND NOT ONLY THAT, BUT I WAS SEEING THAT IT'S TRAFFIC CONTROL WORKERS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR STOPPING SLOWING OR SAFELY GUIDING TRAFFIC THROUGH OR CONTROLLING TRAFFIC THROUGH CONSTRUCTION AND MAINTENANCE WORK IN PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAYS. SO I, THAT THAT'S MY, YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH PUTTING THIS THING IN THERE, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT REALLY APPLIES THE WAY WE HAVE IT WRITTEN HERE. YEAH. JUST DEFINITIONALLY IT MAY NOT APPLY, BUT WE, WE HAVE THE LANGUAGE WE COULD ADD THAT IN AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION, BUT OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. AND WHAT, WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER ONE? UH, SO THE, I CHECKED ON THE DEFINITIONS OF, UH, THE SETTING UP A TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES. I CONFIRMED THAT OUR DEFINITION OF TRAFFIC CONTROL WORK IS IDENTICAL WITH THE OTHERS. OKAY. UM, SO EVERYONE BASICALLY DEFINES IT AS STOPPING, SLOWING OR OTHERWISE GUIDING, DIRECTING OR CONTROLLING OF TRAFFIC PURSUANT TO OUR PERMIT. WE COULD BROADEN THAT TO ADD, UM, SETTING UP OF TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES. BUT I JUST CONFIRMED THAT OUR DE CURRENT DEFINITION IS CONSISTENT WITH THE OTHER JURISDICTIONS AND, AND THE OTHER JURISDICTIONS THAT HAVE ALREADY PASSED THIS ORDINANCE, OR ONE VERY SIMILAR TO IT IS CITY OF SAN DIEGO, SHULA VISTA AND THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO SAN. CORRECT. THEY'RE SO WE'RE ALL, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE SURROUNDED BY IT AT THE MOMENT. CORRECT. THEY'RE ALL, ALL THE DEFINITIONS ARE EFFECTIVELY IDENTICAL. OKAY. WE'LL SEE WHAT WE GET. UH, MEMBER MALIA. THANK YOU. QUICK CLARIFICATION ON THAT POINT. TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES, DOES THAT MEAN LIKE THE ORANGE CONES AND THE SIGNAGE? AND SO THIS WOULD COVER INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE SETTING UP THE CONES AND SETTING UP, YOU KNOW, THE SIGNS AND, AND, AND FLASHING LIGHTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. IS THAT WHAT IS MEANT BY TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES? THAT, THAT SEEMS FAIR. I MEAN, IT, IT'S, OH, FOR, FOR THE ADDITIONAL DEFINITION. MM-HMM. , UH, THAT SHOULD BE ANY KIND OF SIGNALING MM-HMM. ANY KIND OF SIGNALING CONES. AND THAT ISN'T ALREADY COVERED BY THE DEFINITION AS WRITTEN IN THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE, I WOULD ARGUE IT DOES, BECAUSE THE DEFINITION INCLUDES CONTROLLING OF TRAFFIC AND THOSE PRELIMINARY STEPS INVOLVE CONTROLLING TRAFFIC. MM-HMM. . BUT IT WOULD JUST BE A MATTER OF MAKING IT MORE EXPLICIT IF, IF YOU SO CHOSE. I I HAVE NO PROBLEM ADDING THESE TWO IN THERE. JUST AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION. I WOULD AGREE. UH, EVERYONE ELSE THAT'S UP, THAT'S UP TO THE COUNCIL'S WHOLE AND IT DEPENDS ON WHATEVER THE MOTION, WE HAVEN'T MADE A MOTION YET, MR. CHAIRMAN. HUH? I DON'T THINK IT'S RELEVANT. [01:25:01] THAT'S, I DON'T THINK IT'S RELEVANT SPECIAL EVENTS VERSUS STREET IN I STREET CONSTRUCTION. I, YEAH. THAT, THAT ONE IS A LITTLE BIT LOOSER WITH ME. I MEAN, THE ONE ABOUT PUTTING UP THE CONES, I THINK IS, THAT'S PART OF TRAFFIC CONTROL. AND I THINK, I THINK IT'S UNLIKELY THAT A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT WOULD INVOLVE THE, UM, WORK IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. RIGHT. AS WE DEFINE THE PERMIT. RIGHT. YEAH. THAT ONE TO ME, I MEAN, WE, TO ME, WE'D ONLY BE PUTTING IT IN THERE JUST AS THE ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION, BUT IT REALLY DON'T, I DON'T, I DON'T SEE THAT AS APPLYING AS MUCH. I THINK THE, OF THE IDEA OF SETTING UP THE CONES, SETTING UP THE TRAFFIC CONTROL IS MUCH MORE IMPORTANT. I MEAN, THAT IS A SAFETY ISSUE AND THAT'S PART OF TRAFFIC CONTROL ITSELF WOULD, I THINK WOULD FIT MORE. YOU, YOU WANT TO CHIME IN ON THIS ONE? YEAH. THE, UM, ONLY THING I WANTED TO DO IS MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE LANGUAGE TO ADDRESS THESE TWO POINTS. SO IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO ADDRESS THE FIRST POINT, THAT'S FINE. BUT WITH RESPECT TO THE SECOND, UM, DO YOU HAVE ANY, ANY LANGUAGE THAT YOU WOULD PROPOSE TO ADDRESS THAT? NOW? THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD DO FIRST. WE DON'T HAVE A SAMPLE, BUT, UM, OUR DEF CURRENT DEFINITION IS A STOPPING, SLOWING OR OTHERWISE GUIDING, DIRECTING OR CONTROLLING TRAFFIC. SO WE COULD PROBABLY ADD IN THERE SOMETHING LIKE, UM, GUIDING DIRECTING OR CONTROLLING OF TRAFFIC OR INSTALLATION OR SETTING UP A TRAFFIC DEVICE TO, TO INCLUDE, TO INCLUDE, TO INCLUDE, UH, THE SETTING UP OF TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES OR CONTROLLED TRAFFIC, INCLUDING SETTING UP OF TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES. YEAH. UH, IF I CAN SUGGEST, I, I WOULD SAY IN, IN INSTALLING AND REMOVING TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES, INCLUDING INSTALLATION AND REMOVAL OF TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES, I, I THINK THAT WOULD COVER IT. YEAH. OKAY. SO, OKAY. THAT'S GOOD. I JUST WANTED TO HAVE SOME SPECIFIC LANGUAGE THAT WE CAN, UH, WORK WITH WHEN WE OKAY. SO, OKAY. OVER HERE, I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS, BUT IF WE'RE READY FOR A MOTION, I CAN MAKE A NOW. OKAY. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT OR TO, UM, INTRODUCE, INTRODUCE THE ORDINANCE, UM, AS, UH, STATED IN OUR STAFF REPORT, INCLUDING THE AMENDMENT, UH, THAT, THAT INCLUDES THE TRAFFIC DEVICES, SETTING THEM UP AND, UH, TEARING THEM DOWN. THANK YOU. OKAY. AND I WILL SECOND THAT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I HAVE A QUESTION, MR. FOR INTRODUCTION ONLY? YES. YEAH. UM, DO WE NEED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION FOR, UH, ONE DAY EVENTS? UM, IF THIS WOULD BE EXEMPT FOR ONE DAY EVENTS, SO IF THERE'S A NONPROFIT THAT IS HAVING A WALK AROUND OUR COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WOULD LIKE THAT TO BE EXEMPTED. UM, BUT IS IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED IN THE PAST OR YOU'VE DISCUSSED WITH STAFF? JUST WHAT WAS DISCUSSED? I JUST DISCUSSED IT EARLIER TODAY, UM, WITH STAFF, I THINK THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS OUR ORDINANCE IS SET UP FOR, UH, MAINTENANCE AND WORK ON THE ROADS. IT'S NOT REALLY, AND SO THAT'S FOR TRA THAT'S FOR TRAFFIC CONTROLLERS AND EVERYTHING WITHIN THE ORDINANCE AND WITHIN THE, UM, BOTH THE ORDINANCE AND, UM, TWO POINT, UH, SEVEN, EIGHT IS ALL ABOUT MAINTENANCE. MM-HMM. AND DOING ROAD WORK. MM-HMM. . AND SO IT REALLY DOESN'T DEAL WITH THAT. AND THE OTHER THING IS NORMALLY WITH, UH, FOR PARADES, IF YOU WANNA CALL IT, I'M GONNA CALL IT A PARADE TYPE OF THING IN THE STREET, UH, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, I THINK NOW THE, BASICALLY THE STATE SAYS IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TRAFFIC CONTROL, IT HAS TO BE BY A, UH, A, UM, A UNIFORM OFFICER. AND, UH, YOU CAN'T HAVE QUOTE UNQUOTE VOLUNTEERS OUT THERE OR MM-HMM. , YOU KNOW, STUFF ALONG THAT LINE, UH, HAPPENING. SO I, I JUST DON'T KNOW IF THIS APPLIES NOW. I THINK THAT MIGHT MIGHT BE A PART OF A DIFFERENT, THAT SOUNDS GOOD TO ME. YEAH. I I THINK IT MIGHT BE A D PART OF A DIFFERENT, I JUST KNOW, I JUST KNOW THAT IT WAS A PART OF SOME OF THE OTHER ORDINANCES, WHICH IS WHY I BROUGHT IT UP. AND, AND, AND I THINK IT'S BECAUSE OF THE BREADTH OF SOME OF THE OTHER ORDINANCES WHERE OUR PERMIT IS SPECIFIC TO, TO WORK IN THE RIGHT OF WAY AND THE SPECIAL EVENT, FOR EXAMPLE. I, I DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT THE SPECIAL EVENT WOULD INVOLVE ANY WORK IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. YEAH. PERFECT. SOUNDS GOOD. YEAH. MM-HMM, . YEAH. AND IF WE FIND A NEED, NEED FOR THAT MIGHT, THERE MIGHT BE A DIFFERENT OTHER SECTION. WE MIGHT NEED TO, TO DEAL WITH THAT, THAT COULD ADDRESS THAT THEN. ALRIGHT. UM, SO WE DO HAVE A MOTION. SECOND. THIS IS FOR INTRODUCTION ONLY AND SHE MADE THE MOTION. I MADE THE SECOND. HOW'S THAT? [01:30:01] THERE WE GO. OKAY, WITH THAT, PLEASE VOTE. MOTION CARRIES . ALRIGHT. NEXT WE GO TO, UH, 11.1 [11.1 Discussion and Direction Regarding a Temporary Local Emergency Ordinance Prohibiting Evictions and Rental Increases, Providing Relocation Assistance, and a Right to Return During the Local Emergency Related to the Recent Floods.] AND WE ARE NOW IN OUR STAFF REPORTS. HUH? I KNOW. WE THOUGHT WE WERE DONE. OH, OH, . OKAY. OKAY. WE NOW GO TO 11.1. THIS IS STAFF REPORTS AND OUR FIRST STAFF REPORT COMES FROM OUR CITY ATTORNEY. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, THIS AGENDA ITEM IS, UM, FOR THE PURPOSE OF CONSIDERING, UM, WHETHER OR NOT THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO, UH, DIRECT STAFF TO PREPARE A EMERGENCY ORDINANCE, UM, TO ADDRESS A NUMBER OF ISSUES THAT YOU DISCUSSED DURING YOUR LAST, UM, COUNCIL MEETING. UM, LET ME JUST BEGIN BY KIND OF SETTING THE CONTEXT. UM, WE ALL KNOW THAT WE EXPERIENCED A HISTORIC RAINFALL ON JANUARY 22ND, 2024, WHICH IMPACTED MANY OF OUR, OUR RESIDENTS AND HOUSEHOLDS. UH, A STATE OF EMERGENCY WAS DECLARED BY BOTH THE STATE, UH, AND ALSO BY THE, UH, CITY OF NATIONAL CITY. UH, AND SUBSEQUENTLY ON JANUARY 30TH, THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO ADOPTED A EMERGENCY ORDINANCE. I HAVE TO REMIND MYSELF THAT I'M SUPPOSED TO CONTROL THIS THING. ? UH, NO. WHERE DID THE JOB GO? I KNOW. OKAY, THERE IT IS. SO I'M ON THE THIRD BULLET POINT. UH, SO THE EMERGENCY ORDINANCE, UM, AND SUBSEQUENTLY, UH, THERE WAS A REQUEST BY, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER RODRIGUEZ THAT THE CITY ALSO CONSIDER A, UM, A LOCAL EMERGENCY ORDINANCE. SO FIRST OF ALL, THE, THE IDEA HERE IS WE WANT TO, IF WE PROCEED WITH A LOCAL ORDINANCE, THE IDEA IS TO USE THE COUNTY ORDINANCE AS A FRAMEWORK. UM, OUR GOAL IS TO COMPLEMENT, UH, THE COUNTY ORDINANCE AND NOT TO COMPLICATE IT, UM, SPECIFICALLY, UM, WE CAN, AS A LOCAL JURISDICTION, UM, ADD MORE RESTRICTIVE PROVISIONS, UM, TO THE COUNTY ORDINANCE. AND JUST SO WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE, THE COUNTY ORDINANCE, THE PRIMARY, UM, PROVISION THERE, UH, PROHIBITS EVICTIONS. UM, IT BASICALLY LIMITS EVICTIONS TO WHAT WE CALL JUST CAUSE EVICTIONS. UM, AND A TENANT CAN ONLY BE EVICTED IF THEY ARE DETERMINED TO BE AN INHERENT RISK TO HEALTH AND SAFETY. UM, SO CURRENTLY THERE HAVE BEEN NO EVICTIONS, AND I KNOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN SOME CONFUSIONS ABOUT THAT, AND THERE WERE SOME MESSAGES THAT WERE SENT BY SOME PROPERTY OWNERS THAT TENANTS INTERPRETED AS THEY WERE BEING EVICTED. UM, BUT DUE TO THE EMERGENCY DECLARATION AND THE COUNTY ORDINANCE, EVICTIONS ARE NOT LEGAL. UM, I THINK IT'S ALSO TO POINT OUT THAT THE TENANT PROTECTIONS THAT ARE PROVIDED BY THIS COUNTY ORDINANCE ARE DIRECTED TO THOSE TENANTS WHO HAVE BEEN IMPACTED BY THE FLOOD. SO IT'S NOT ALL TENANTS, IT'S ONLY THOSE TENANTS THAT HAVE EXPERIENCED IMPACT, PARTICULARLY ECONOMIC IMPACT AS A RESULT OF THE FLOOD. THE COUNTY ORDINANCE. UM, WHILE IT DOES NOT, UH, ALLOW EVICTIONS, IT DOES ALLOW FOR THE TEMPORARY RELOCATION OF TENANTS IN ORDER TO AFFECT REPAIRS THAT, UH, ARE NECESSARY AS A RESULT OF THE DAMAGE FROM THE FLOOD. HOWEVER, THE COUNTY ORDINANCE SIMPLY REFERS TO STATE AND LOCAL RELOCATION BENEFITS. THERE'S NO SPECIFIC DEFINITION OF WHAT THAT MEANS. THE OTHER THING THAT THE COUNTY ORDINANCE PROVIDES IS A DELAY OF RESIDENTIAL RENT INCREASES. SO RENT INCREASES DURING THE TIME OF THE, UH, EFFECTIVENESS OF THE EMERGENCY ORDINANCE IS LIMITED, UH, TO, TO NO, NO INCREASE MORE THAN THE CPI FROM THE LAST, UM, UH, LAST YEAR SPECIFICALLY WITH RESPECT TO, UM, A POTENTIAL LOCAL ORDINANCE. THE COUNCIL ASKS THAT, [01:35:01] UH, STAFF COME BACK AND PRESENT SOME POTENTIAL LANGUAGE TO ADDRESS THE RELOCATION BENEFITS, TO CLARIFY RELOCATION BENEFITS THAT MIGHT BE AVAILABLE. I ALSO ASK TO CONSIDER OPTIONS FOR, UH, ADDRESSING RENT INCREASES. UM, AND THEN THE THIRD ISSUE HAD TO DO WITH WHETHER OR NOT THE TENANTS HAD A RIGHT TO RETURN TO THEIR, UH, TO THEIR UNITS UPON THE, UH, COMPLETION OF THE REPAIRS. UM, AND I THINK THAT THAT IS IMPLIED BY THE COUNTY ORDINANCE, BUT IT IS NOT SPECIFIC. AND AGAIN, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS MAKE SURE THAT WE ADDRESS TENANT'S CONCERNS, BUT ALSO THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE AWARE OF, UM, THEIR RIGHTS, UH, ET CETERA. THE FOURTH ISSUE IS ONE OF THE TERM, UH, THE COUNTY ORDINANCE IS IN EFFECT FOR 60 DAYS FROM ITS ADOPTION. SO THAT WOULD BE EFFECTIVE THROUGH THE, UH, THE END OF THIS MONTH ALREADY MARCH. UM, SO THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT, UM, OUR LOCAL ORDINANCE WOULD EXPAND THAT TIME PERIOD BEYOND THE EXPIRATION OF THE COUNTY ORDINANCE. SO, UM, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT. AND I WILL START TO GO THROUGH THE SPECIFIC OPTIONS, BUT BEFORE I DO, I MIGHT ASK, UM, DIRECTOR AGUIRE TO GIVE US, UM, KIND OF AN UPDATE ON SOME OF THE RESOURCES BOTH LOCAL, STATE, FEDERAL, THAT HAVE BEEN, UH, MADE AVAILABLE TO, UH, TO, TO PEOPLE THAT HAVE SUFFERED, UH, AS A RESULT OF THIS FLOOD. SURE. THANK YOU. SO, UH, WE DID RECEIVE, UH, AN UPDATE FROM THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO WITH REGARDS TO THEIR, UH, TENANT, UM, LODGING PROGRAM. UH, TO DATE, THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO ASSIST, UH, 700 AND, UH, 70 FAMILIES. UH, THEIR FIRST PRIORITY IS TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE SAFE AND, UH, SUITABLE TEMPORARY LODGING. AND THE PROGRAM HAS BEEN EXTENDED THROUGH MARCH 25TH. UH, CASE MANAGEMENT IS CONTINUOUS ON A SEVEN DAY CYCLE. SO THOSE THAT ARE, UH, TEMPORARY HOUSED ARE RECEIVING, UM, A TOUCH POINT FROM CASE MANAGERS, MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE, UH, UH, BEING CONNECTED TO FOOD AND OTHER RESOURCES AS NEEDED, UM, AND ALSO BEING CONNECTED TO ANY FEMA OR SBA RESOURCES THAT WE HEARD OF TODAY. SO, UM, IT'S CONTINUOUS WORK THAT'S BEING DONE. AT THE LAST MEETING, UM, I WAS ASKED ABOUT THE UNIVERSE OF, OF TENANTS REQUIRING, UH, ASSISTANCE THAT WERE SEVERELY IMPACTED. UH, WE DID LOOK AT SEVERAL DATABASES, UH, MOST OF THEM THROUGH THE SURVEYS AND SITE ASSESSMENTS. UH, THE UNIVERSE IS ABOUT 80, UH, HOUSEHOLDS THAT HAVE BEEN IMPACTED, UH, SEVERELY IMPACTED BY THE FLOOD, UH, THAT ARE, UM, THAT ARE RENTERS. UH, OF THOSE 80, UM, I THINK WE'VE TOUCHED ABOUT 78 OF THE FAMILIES, SO I'M HAPPY TO REPORT THAT ABOUT 98% OF THOSE FAMILIES IMPACTED HAVE BEEN, UM, HAVE BEEN NOT ONLY CONTACTED, BUT FOLLOWED THROUGH ON AND, AND CASE MANAGED, UH, 52 OF WHICH ARE, UH, TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE TEMPORARY HOUSING PROGRAM THROUGH THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO AND 26 THAT RECEIVED, UH, RELOCATION BENEFITS DIRECTLY FROM THE CITY. UM, THOSE AS WELL, SOME OF THEM QUALIFIED TO BE, UH, PRIORITIZED ON THE SECTION EIGHT LIST. SO WE HAVE, UH, APPROXIMATELY EIGHT FAMILIES THAT, UH, HAVE APPLIED FOR, UH, SECTION EIGHT BENEFITS AND ARE, UH, ACTIVELY LOOKING FOR HOUSING. UH, SO, UH, I THINK WE'RE, IT, IT'S BEEN ALL HANDS ON DECK. UM, I APPRECIATE ALL THE REFERRALS WE RECEIVED FOR HOUSING. IT WAS, UH, A VERY VITAL EFFORT TO GET EVERYONE SITUATED, BUT I THINK WE LEFT NO SOONER UNTURNED IN TERMS OF, UH, MAKING SURE THAT THE RESOURCES WERE, UH, WERE DIRECTED AT THE PEOPLE THAT NEEDED IT MOST. AND, UM, UH, I THINK THEY'RE ON THEIR WAY TO, TO, TO GET BACK TO, TO, TO, TO LIFE, TO, TO FINDING HOUSING AND, AND, AND, UM, AND, AND, AND, UH, IT'S, IT'S BEEN FOR SOME OF THESE FAMILIES, IT'S, IT'S BEEN STARTING FROM SQUARE ONE AND I THINK THEY'VE BEEN, UH, VERY RESILIENT AND WE CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THEM ALL THE RESOURCES. WE'VE PUT ALL THE INFORMATION ON, UH, ABOUT FEMA AND OTHER RESOURCES ON ALL OF OUR SOCIAL MEDIA AND WEBSITES. SO, UH, WE, WE KEEP UP TO DATE AND TRY TO MAKE SURE WE CONNECT THEM TO THE APPROPRIATE RESOURCES. OKAY. THANK YOU, DIRECTOR AGIRI. UM, SO I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO, TO JUST TAKE A MOMENT TO THINK ABOUT WHERE WE ARE. UM, WE'RE SIX WEEKS PAST THIS, UM, THIS EVENT. [01:40:01] UM, AND SO AS WE THINK ABOUT IMPLEMENTING ANY ADDITIONAL REGULATIONS, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO, TO REALLY CONSIDER WHETHER OR NOT THOSE REGULATIONS WILL HAVE ANY SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE ISSUES THAT ARE STILL REMAINING TO BE ADDRESSED. SO WITH THAT, LET ME START THROUGH, UM, A DISCUSSION OF THESE ISSUES. AND, AND FIRST OF ALL, I APOLOGIZE THAT MY POWERPOINT HAS VIOLATED EVERY POWERPOINT PRINCIPLE EVER. OKAY. UM, BUT I'M A LAWYER AND WORDS ARE IMPORTANT, SO I GOTTA PUT 'EM ALL OUT THERE. UM, OKAY. SO RELOCATION BENEFITS. UM, THIS IS VERY COMPLICATED. UM, AND IT HAS NOT BEEN EASY. AND MY GOAL HAS BEEN TO BRING FORWARD OPTIONS THAT I THINK ARE FAIR TO THE TENANTS AND ALSO FAIR TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS. UM, AS I MENTIONED, THE COUNTY ORDINANCE MADE REFERENCES TO STATE AND LOCAL LAWS, UH, AND WE REVIEWED THOSE. UM, AND, AND WHAT COMPLICATES TRYING TO DEAL WITH THIS ISSUE IS THE FACT THAT MOST OF THE LAWS THAT ADDRESS RELOCATION ARE DEALING WITH SITUATIONS THAT REQUIRE A, A TEMPORARY RELOCATION TO ADDRESS PROBLEMS THAT WERE CREATED BY THE LANDLORD. UM, THEY FAIL TO MAINTAIN, UH, THEIR UNITS IN A WAY THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO. THAT'S NOT THE, THAT'S NOT THE SITUATION WE HAVE HERE. UH, WE HAVE A NATURAL DISASTER. WE HAVE DAMAGES THAT WERE CREATED, UH, BY CIRCUMSTANCES BEYOND THE CONTROL OF EITHER THE PROPERTY OWNER OR THE TENANT. SO I'VE TRIED TO TAKE LANGUAGE THAT HAS EXISTED IN THESE OTHER CONTEXTS AND SEE CAN WE MAKE THEM WORK IN THIS CONTEXT. UM, SO OPTION NUMBER ONE, WHICH I THINK IS THE, THE EASIEST ONE, UM, IS THAT, UM, WHERE A TENANT HAS BEEN TEMPORARILY DISPLACED FROM A UNIT THAT THEY WOULD BE ENTITLED TO, UH, A, A RELOCATION BENEFIT IN THE AMOUNT OF ONE MONTH OF THE TENANT'S RENT, IN EFFECT, AT THE TIME OF THE TEMPORARY RELOCATION. NOW, UNDERSTAND THAT THIS LANGUAGE IS NORMALLY, UH, IT'S, IT'S OFF OF, UH, THE TENANT PROTECTION ACT. IT'S 1482 AND IT APPLIES WHERE THERE IS A, WHAT WE CALL A NO CAUSE EVICTION. WE DON'T HAVE EVICTIONS HERE, WE'RE NOT DEALING WITH EVICTIONS, WE'RE DEALING WITH TEMPORARY RELOCATION IN ORDER TO ALLOW THE LANDLORD TO REPAIR THE UNIT. SO IT DOESN'T FIT PERFECTLY, BUT WHAT I LIKE ABOUT IT IS CLEAR IT'S ONE MONTH'S RENT , IT'S ONE MONTH'S RENT BASED ON YOUR EXISTING RENT. THE SECOND THING I LIKE ABOUT IT IS THE FACT THAT, GIVEN WHAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING IS THAT WE'RE SIX WEEKS INTO THIS AND WE'RE HEARING THAT MANY OF THE FAMILIES AND HOUSEHOLDS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED, THAT THEIR PROBLEMS HAVE BEEN TAKEN CARE OF. THERE ARE OTHER RESOURCES THAT HAVE COME TO BEAR TO HELP THEM. SO THE, IN MY MIND, IT SEEMS LIKE WHERE WE, WHERE WE ENDED UP HAVING TROUBLE IS THAT WE HAD AN EVENT AND RIGHT AWAY THERE'S, THERE'S PROBLEMS AND PEOPLE ARE SUFFERING AND THIS IS AN EMERGENCY AND WE'RE ALL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO SOLVE IT. AND NOW HERE WE ARE ALMOST AFTER THE FACT TRYING TO REGULATE SOMETHING THAT ALREADY HAPPENED. SO THAT'S, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT PROBLEMATIC. BUT ANYWAY, I I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF SET THAT CONTEXT. THE OTHER OPTION NUMBER TWO IS, IS LANGUAGE THAT'S USUALLY USED IN RENT CONTROL ORDINANCES. AND THEY ADDRESS THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE A LANDLORD HAS CREATED A PROBLEM BY NOT MAINTAINING THEIR UNITS, AND AS A RESULT, THEY HAVE TO DISPLACE THE TENANT WHILE THEY MAKE THOSE REPAIRS. GENERALLY SPEAKING, THOSE KINDS OF REPAIRS ARE NOT MAJOR REPAIRS LIKE WHAT WE'RE SEEING AS A RESULT OF THIS NATURAL DISASTER. THEY ARE JUST REPAIRS THAT PROBABLY CAN BE DONE WITHIN 20 DAYS, MAYBE 30 DAYS AT THE MOST. SO IN THAT CIRCUMSTANCE, THE RELOCATION BENEFIT IS TO PROVIDE THE TENANT WITH MONEY TO FIND TEMPORARY LODGING WHILE THOSE REPAIRS ARE BEING DONE. AND THE IDEA IS THAT THAT WOULD BE DONE IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. SO WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS THAT THE RELOCATION BENEFIT IS DEFINED NOT BY THE RENT, BUT BY THE COST OF A HOTEL OR MOTEL ACCOMMODATION. WHAT I HAVE UP THERE IS I'M PROPOSING $180 PER HOUSEHOLD JUST BASED ON THE AVERAGE COST THAT WE HAVE EXPERIENCED AS [01:45:01] A RESULT OF THIS PARTICULAR INCIDENT. UH, MEAL EXPENSES, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE, BUT I TRY NOT TO GO OUT ANYMORE 'CAUSE I GET DEPRESSED ABOUT HOW MUCH, UH, EVERYTHING COSTS. UM, I USED TO GIVE MYSELF EIGHT BUCKS FOR LUNCH, NOW IT'S 20 BUCKS. SO ANYWAY, SO THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING TO ADD TO IT. NOW, IN BOTH OF THESE OPTIONS, I'VE INCLUDED, UM, THE ALTERNATIVE THAT A LANDOWNER COULD, OR A PROPERTY OWNER COULD PROVIDE ALTERNATIVE HOUSING. SO FOR INSTANCE, IF I GOT A HUNDRED UNIT APARTMENT AND THE FIRST FLOOR GOT WIPED OUT, BUT YET I HAVE SOME UNITS THAT ARE COMPARABLE UNITS OTHERWHERE IN THE COMPLEX. A A LANDLORD COULD SAY, WE'LL, HAVE YOU STAY THERE AS OPPOSED TO PAYING ANY PARTICULAR RELOCATION. THE LAST ISSUE AS IF THIS HASN'T GOTTEN COMPLICATED ENOUGH IS THE QUESTION OF IF YOU ARE PROVIDED RELOCATION BENEFITS, DO YOU STILL HAVE TO MAINTAIN PAYING RENT? UM, AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF, UM, TENANT ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN ADVISING THEIR, THEIR CLIENTS, IF YOU WILL, THAT IF IN FACT THEY WANNA MAINTAIN THE RIGHT TO RETURN TO THEIR UNIT, THEY HAVE TO CONTINUE TO PAY RENT. NOW, IN A SHORT TERM RELOCATION THAT SORT OF MAKES SENSE TO ME. YOU'RE OUT FOR 20 DAYS, WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU A HOTEL, AND SO YOU CAN CONTINUE TO PAY RENT. ON THE OTHER HAND, I SAY TO MYSELF, WELL, WHY AM I GOING TO PAY RENT IF I DON'T HAVE THE BENEFIT OF MY BARGAIN ACCESS TO MY UNIT? UM, SO IN THIS ONE, OPTION TWO, THERE IS A PROVISION THAT SHOULD YOU ACCEPT THIS SHORT TERM BENEFIT, THAT YOU WOULD STILL MAINTAIN YOUR OBLIGATION TO PAY RENT. WE CAN TWEAK THESE THINGS, BUT I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF GIVE YOU THAT, UM, THAT OUTLINE. ALRIGHT. SECOND ISSUE IS RESIDENTIAL RENT INCREASES. UM, SO I THINK WHERE I'D LIKE TO START HERE IS JUST RECOGNIZING THAT THERE IS ALREADY A STATE LAW CAPPING RENT INCREASES. SO RENT CAN ONLY BE INCREASED A CERTAIN NUMBER OF TIMES PER YEAR. AND AT A CERTAIN RATE, WHAT THE COUNTY ORDINANCE DID IS SAY DURING THE EMERGENCY, WE'RE GOING TO CAP THAT RENT TO, UM, THE, UH, CPI FROM LAST YEAR. AND QUITE FRANKLY, I'VE ASKED MYSELF WHAT THAT IS AND I KEEP FORGETTING TO LOOK IT UP. BUT CERTAINLY LESS THAN 10%, PROBABLY AROUND 5% WOULD BE MY GUESS, SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE. UM, NOW AS A RESULT, UM, THERE ARE SOME FOLKS WHO HAVE ADVOCATED FOR HAVING NO INCREASES OF RENT DURING THE EMERGENCY ORDINANCE. AND THE IDEA IS THAT THERE IS A FEAR THAT SOME PROPERTY OWNERS MAY USE THIS EVENT AS A, AS A REASON TO INCREASE RENTS. SO, UM, THERE HAVE BEEN THOSE THAT HAVE SAID, LET'S HAVE NO INCREASES, AND THAT IS MY OPTION NUMBER ONE THERE. THE COUNTY'S LANGUAGE IS OPTION FOUR, WHICH ISN'T UP THERE YET. UM, AND THEN I CAME UP WITH OPTION TWO AND THREE. UM, AND TWO IS JUST RECOGNIZING THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO PUT A CAP ON IT, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE LAST YEAR'S CPI, IT COULD BE SOME OTHER PERCENTAGE. SO I'VE GOT KIND OF A, UH, A BLANK THERE. AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS, UM, A 10% CAP. AND THAT'S FROM THE FACT THAT THERE IS WHAT WE CALL AN ANTI GORGING STATUTE IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA THAT SAYS THAT YOU CANNOT INCREASE RENTS MORE THAN 10% DURING AN A STATE OF EMERGENCY. UH, THAT ALSO APPLIES TO OTHER SERVICES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. UH, BUT AGAIN, THAT WAS, UH, AS A RESULT OF THE FACT THAT WE'VE SEEN THAT SOME PROPERTY OWNERS, SOME BUSINESSES TAKE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF US DURING THESE, UH, DIFFICULT TIMES. UM, OKAY. OPTION THREE AND FOUR. YEAH, SO THAT'S THREE AND FOUR. I JUST EXPLAINED THEM TO YOU. YOU DON'T HAVE TO READ IT, TRUST ME ON IT. MM-HMM, . UM, ALRIGHT, THEN WE GET TO WRITE A FIRST REFUSAL. SO THE IDEA IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE TENANTS HAVE BEEN, UH, TEMPORARILY DISPLACED FROM THEIR UNITS. SO THEY HAVEN'T BEEN EVICTED, BUT THEY'VE HAD TO MOVE IN ORDER TO ALLOW THE REPAIRS TO HAPPEN. AND THE QUESTION IS, DO THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO RETURN? NOW THE INDUSTRY IS TELLING ME ABSOLUTELY THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO RETURN, IT'S IN THEIR CONTRACT. WELL, I HAVEN'T READ ALL THOSE CONTRACTS. UM, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S TRUE OR NOT. I KNOW THAT YOU HAVEN'T BEEN EVICTED AND IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN EVICTED, [01:50:01] IT SEEMS TO ME THAT YOU WOULD HAVE A RIGHT TO RETURN. OKAY? UM, SO AS I THOUGHT ABOUT IT, I SAID, WELL, WHY DON'T WE PUT IT IN WRITING? WHAT'S WRONG WITH PUTTING IT IN THE ORDINANCE? IF YOU GUYS SAY THEY ALREADY HAVE THAT, RIGHT? WHAT'S THE PROBLEM? UM, AND I'M STILL KIND OF, OF THAT POSITION, BUT WHAT I'VE DONE IS ADDED LANGUAGE ABOUT THE PROCESS. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT OCCURS TO ME IS THAT WE DON'T ALWAYS GET THE INFORMATION WE NEED TO MAKE DECISIONS IN LIFE. AND FOR MANY OF THESE FOLKS, WHEN THEY ARE EXPERIENCING THE EFFECTS OF THIS, THEY DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING. NO ONE IS RUNNING OUT THERE SAYING, WHERE'S MY LEASE? LET ME READ MY RIGHTS. THAT'S JUST NOT WHAT HAPPENED. SO WE'RE REQUIRING THAT THE LANDLORD PROVIDE NOTICE TO THE TENANTS THAT THEY HAVE THIS, RIGHT, OKAY. LET THEM KNOW THAT YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO RETURN. WHEN I REPAIR THE UNIT, NOT ONLY DOES IT INFORM THEM OF THEIR RIGHTS, BUT IT ALSO GIVES THEM A LITTLE BIT OF COMFORT, RIGHT? AT LEAST YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A PLACE TO COME BACK TO. UM, SO IT, IT REQUIRES THAT AT THE SAME TIME, IT REQUIRES THE TENANT TO PROVIDE THE PROPERTY OWNER WITH CONTACT INFORMATION. I CAN'T TELL YOU WHEN YOU CAN COME BACK IF I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU ARE. SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE THE CONTACT INFORMATION AND YOU PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION. THE OTHER THING IS WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER NOTIFIES THE TENANT THAT THERE IS TIME TO RETURN, THAT THE REPAIRS ARE DONE, YOU CAN COME BACK. AND THE LAST PIECE, WHICH I THINK IS JUST AS IMPORTANT, IT REQUIRES THE TENANT TO RESPOND. WHEN I REACH OUT TO YOU AND TELL YOU THAT THE UNIT IS AVAILABLE, YOU GOTTA RESPOND. YOU GOTTA LET ME KNOW, YEP, I'M COMING BACK, OR NOPE, I FOUND ANOTHER ARRANGEMENT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. BUT WE CAN'T PUT THE BURDEN ON THE, THE LANDLORD THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE UNOCCUPIED UNITS WHILE YOU'RE KIND OF FIGURING OUT WHATEVER IT IS THAT YOU WANT TO DO. SO, UM, THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THAT LANGUAGE. UM, IT'S, IT'S GOT THE, THE RIGHT AND, AND SOME OF THE, THE PROCEDURE, THE LAST ISSUE, WHICH FORTUNATELY FOR YOU I DON'T HAVE A SLIDE ON, IS RELATING TO THE TERM OF THE ORDINANCE. SO AS I INDICATED EARLIER, THE COUNTY ORDINANCE GOES, UM, IS, UH, EXPIRES AT THE END OF MARCH. THERE'S SOME THINKING ON OUR PART THAT THEY WILL EXPEND, THEY WILL EXTEND IT. UM, WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OR HOW LONG THEY WOULD EXTEND IT FOR, BUT WE THINK THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE THAT THEY'LL EXTEND IT. BUT IN ANY EVENT, THERE WAS DISCUSSION AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING THAT ONE OF THE THINGS WE WOULD DO AT THE LOCAL LEVEL IS TO HAVE SOME EXTENSION BEYOND THE EXPIRATION OF THE COUNTY ORDINANCE. THE REAL EFFECT OF THAT IS THAT IT WOULD CONTINUE THE TENANT PROTECTIONS FROM EVICTIONS. THE LONGER THAT THIS ORDINANCE, WHETHER IT'S THE COUNTY ORDINANCE OR THE LOCAL ORDINANCES IN PLACE, THOSE JUST CAUSE EVICTION PROTECTIONS WILL CONTINUE. SO THAT'S, UM, THAT'S MY PRESENTATION. UM, I KNOW WE HAVE PUBLIC TESTIMONY. YES. UM, I THINK WHEN WE GET TO DISCUSSING THIS, I THINK THAT THE MAIN THING IS TONIGHT I REALLY NEED TO GET DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL. UM, THE OPTIONS WE HAVE ARE TO DIRECT US TO CREATE AN ORDINANCE, INCLUDE SOME OF THESE SPECIFIC PROVISIONS, OR NOT TO CREATE AN ORDINANCE AND CONTINUE TO GO BY THE COUNTY ORDINANCE AS IT'S OKAY. OKAY. ALRIGHT. WE DO HAVE A NUMBER OF SPEAKERS. I THINK WE SHOULD POSSIBLY HEAR FROM THEM FIRST, AND THEN WE CAN GET INTO DISCUSSION AND SEE WHERE WE GO FROM THAT. I, UM, CITY CLERK, I KNOW, I KNOW YOU'VE GOT LISTED DOWN TWO PEOPLE FOR THE, UH, ZOOM, BUT, UH, ONE OF THEM HAS TURNED IN A SPEAKER SLIP, RIGHT? SO I THINK WE HAVE ONE, CAN YOU TAKE DOWN THAT PRESENTATION? WE NEED TO TAKE DOWN THIS PRESENTATION SO THAT I CAN SEE THOSE. OKAY. THANK YOU. MOLLY KIRKLAND. HI, GOOD EVENING. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. YES. GREAT. THANK YOU. UM, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS YOU AND I APOLOGIZE I COULDN'T BE THERE IN PERSON. UM, I'M GONNA TRY TO BE BRIEF SINCE I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE AND WE'VE SUBMITTED A LETTER ON THIS. UM, THANK YOU FOR CONTINUING TO ADDRESS THE IMPACTS ON YOUR RESIDENCE. UM, STARTING WITH RELOCATION BENEFITS, I SYMPATHIZE WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY. UH, CERTAINLY NO EASY FEAT TO TRY TO ADDRESS THIS IN AN ORDINANCE, WHICH IS ANOTHER REASON WE BELIEVE EXISTING LAW ALREADY ADDRESSES THIS AND PROVIDES [01:55:01] THE FLEXIBILITY. I THINK THAT BOTH HOUSING PROVIDERS AND RESIDENTS NEED TO FIND THE BEST OPTION FOR THEM, WHETHER IT'S ALTERNATIVE ACCOMMODATIONS OR A RENT CREDIT OR WHAT HAVE YOU. WE ARE TROUBLED BY THE LIMITATIONS TO FIND ALTERNATIVE HOUSING WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS THAT COULD BE PROHIBITIVE AND WE THINK IT WOULD BE HARD TO COMPLY IN, IN SOME SCENARIOS. SO AGAIN, WE, WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO RELY ON THE EXISTING LAW REQUIREMENTS TO RELOCATE TENANTS OR TO PROVIDE THEM A RENT CREDIT AND LET THEM WORK OUT WHAT WORKS BEST FOR THEM. WHEN IT COMES TO RENT INCREASES, AS YOU'VE HEARD, UH, THERE'S LAYERS IN PLACE. THE, THE COUNTY'S ORDINANCE CITY, I'M SORRY, THE STATE LAW THAT THAT LIMITS, UM, HOW MUCH YOU CAN INCREASE AND LIMITS IT TO NO MORE THAN TWO TIMES PER YEAR AND NEVER OVER THE RENT CAP. UM, WE JUST SIMPLY HAVE NO EVIDENCE OR DATA THAT SHOWS THAT THERE'S GONNA BE A BIG WAVE OF RENT INCREASES. AND I THINK CERTAINLY, UH, MOST PROPERTY OWNERS ARE SYMPATHETIC TO WHAT EVERYBODY'S GONE THROUGH WHEN IT COMES TO RIGHT OF FIRST REFUSAL. I, I THINK THIS IS THE, THE PART I'LL TAKE THE LONGEST ON. THERE WAS A QUESTION AT THE LAST HEARING OF WHY ANYBODY WOULD OBJECT TO THIS. AND I WANNA BE VERY CLEAR, NOBODY, AT LEAST FROM OUR ORGANIZATION OBJECTS TO THIS CONCEPT. THIS CONCEPT IS TYPICALLY FOR WHEN THERE IS A VACANCY, WHEN A TENANCY HAS BEEN TERMINATED. AND YOU WANT TO ALLOW THAT MOST RECENT RESIDENT, THE FIRST BITE OF THE APPLE, IF YOU WILL, TO RETURN TO THAT UNIT WHEN IT COMES BACK ONTO THE MARKET. AND IF THEY SAY, NO THANKS, THEN YOU MOVE ON AND YOU RENT TO SOMEBODY ELSE. WE'RE NOT DEALING WITH A VACANCY. TENANTS HAVE A RIGHT TO RETURN TO THEIR UNIT, AND IT'S NOT BECAUSE OF A CLAUSE IN THEIR LEASE. IT'S BECAUSE UNDER THE LAW THEY HAVE A CONTRACT THAT CAN'T BE TERMINATED WITHOUT PROPER NOTICE AND CAUSE. UM, AND RIGHT NOW YOU CAN'T TERMINATE TENANCY. SO IT'S KIND OF A MOOT POINT. TENANTS HAVE CONTRACTS THAT REMAIN IN PLACE. THEY GET THE FIRST RIGHT TO RETURN. THEY ACTUALLY HAVE THE ONLY RIGHT TO RETURN, AND PARTICULARLY TROUBLED BY THIS NOTION THAT THEY CAN FORFEIT THEIR RIGHT. I DON'T THINK THAT'S APPROPRIATE. I DON'T EVEN THINK THAT'S LEGAL AND I WOULDN'T KNOW HOW TO ADVISE MEMBERS IN THAT SCENARIO. UM, CERTAINLY IF A TENANT DIDN'T RESPOND TO ALL THIS NOTICING A LANDLORD COULDN'T JUST MOVE ON AND TRY TO RE-RENT TO SOMEBODY 'CAUSE THEY ALREADY HAVE A VALID CONTRACT IN EFFECT. UH, SO I WOULDN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT TO SUGGEST TO A LANDLORD IN THAT SCENARIO, HEY, JUST LEAVE THE UNIT VACANT UNTIL THE TIME YOU CAN TERMINATE TENANCY. IF THEY'VE GHOSTED YOU ON THIS NOTICING, THEY'RE PROBABLY NOT GONNA VOLUNTARILY, UH, SEND IN THEIR 30 DAY NOTICE TO TERMINATE TENANCY. SO I IMAGINE ATTORNEYS WILL BE VERY BUSY, UH, TRYING TO HELP LANDLORDS COMPLY WITH, WITH THAT COMPONENT OF AN ORDINANCE. SO I JUST WANNA REITERATE THAT TENANTS HAVE THE RIGHT TO RETURN TO THEIR UNITS AT UNDER THE EXISTING CONTRACT, AT THEIR EXISTING RENT. AND IF WE NEED TO CREATE SOME SORT OF DOCUMENT TO REITERATE THAT, RIGHT, AND OTHER RIGHTS, WE'RE HAPPY TO PARTICIPATE AND HELP WITH THAT AS WE CERTAINLY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT. UM, YOU KNOW, WITH REGARDS TO THE LENGTH OR, OR THE EXTENDING THE ORDINANCE, I, I CERTAINLY THINK THERE'S MERIT TO WAITING TO SEE WHAT THE COUNTY DOES. UM, NEVER AGAIN, A PATCHWORK OF REGULATION COMPLICATES MATTERS. AND I THINK, UH, YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN THAT HERE AS THE CITY ATTORNEYS TRY TO ADDRESS ALL THESE CONCEPTS. SO AGAIN, WE, WE WANNA BE HELPFUL. WE THINK EDUCATION AND OUTREACH IS THE BEST PATH FORWARD, AND I'M SO PLEASED TO HEAR THAT THE CITY'S HAD SO MANY TOUCHPOINTS WITH AFFECTED RESIDENTS AND, YOU KNOW, 98% OF THEM ARE TAKEN CARE OF AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE IT STAYS THAT WAY. SO RESPECTFULLY, I URGE YOU TO ADOPT RECOMMENDATION TWO, TAKE NO ACTION TONIGHT AND RELY ON THE EXISTING ORDINANCE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. THAT CONCLUDES OUR ZOOM COMMENTS. OKAY. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF SPEAKERS FROM THE AUDIENCE, UH, DAVE GILLINGHAM. I AM DAVE GILLINGHAM. UM, I'M A REAL ESTATE BROKER, UM, A DEVELOPER HERE IN TOWN. I JUST FINISHED A 14 UNIT OVER ON HARDING, ALMOST FINISHED BEN , GET MY COO . UM, SO A COUPLE THINGS. NUMBER ONE, WHEN I FIRST READ THIS, YOU KNOW, MY, MY IMPRESSION WAS THAT SOMEHOW THE CITY, UH, WAS THINKING THAT THIS FLOOD WAS THE LANDLORD'S FAULT AND THAT IT IS UP TO THE LANDLORD, YOU KNOW, TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM. UM, IT IT'S A TRAGEDY OF COURSE. AND, YOU KNOW, EVERY NEIGHBOR ON MY BLOCK GOING NORTH SUFFERED THE SAME PROBLEM. I WAS LUCKY 'CAUSE, UH, MY HOUSE IS UP A LITTLE HIGHER. UM, I AGREE WITH MOLLY THAT I THINK YOU SHOULD ADOPT OPTION TWO. I WAS TOTALLY IMPRESSED TO HEAR, UH, THE DEGREE TO WHICH, UH, HELP HAS BEEN PROVIDED. AND IF 98% OF THE VICTIMS HAVE BEEN, UH, DEALT WITH OR AT LEAST TEMPORARILY DEALT WITH, THIS SEEMS LIKE THIS IS PILING ON FOR NO, NO GOOD REASON. [02:00:01] UM, I, UH, AGAIN, I I THINK IT'S, IT'S UNFORTUNATE. I WOULD URGE YOU TO, UH, CHOOSE OPTION TWO. UM, AND I DON'T, UH, ONE, ONE OTHER THING I I THINK YOU NEED TO DRAW A DISTINCTION OR, OR AT LEAST REMEMBER THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN A NATURAL DISASTER AND WHAT, YOU KNOW, FOR PIPE BREAKS IN THE HOUSE, FOR PIPE BREAKS IN THE HOUSE THAT'S ON THE LANDLORD, AND, YOU KNOW, KEEPING THE TENANTS LIVING SOMEPLACE AND RELOCATING AND FIXING IT AND ALL THAT, THAT'S ON THE LANDLORD IN THIS CASE, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THE LANDLORD'S GONNA HAVE TO FINISH, FIX HIS PROPERTY, BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT THERE SHOULDN'T BE SOME PARTICIPATION FROM THE TENANTS AS WELL. UM, IT, UH, IT, YOU KNOW, TO ME THAT JUST DOESN'T MAKE A LOT OF SENSE. UH, AGAIN, I I I AM VERY SORRY FOR THE PEOPLE WHO SUFFERED DAMAGE OR, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY INCONVENIENCED. WHEN I WAS READING THIS, I WAS THINKING THERE, YOU KNOW, MIGHT BE FIVE, 600 PEOPLE LIVING IN THEIR CARS RIGHT NOW, BUT TO HEAR THAT IT WAS 80 HOMES THAT WERE DAMAGED AND 98% OF THOSE RESIDENTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN TAKEN CARE OF. THIS JUST SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF ARM WAVING OVER SOMETHING. IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE FIXED. THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE, UM, ED NIETO. WHAT HAPPENED WAS TRAGIC, I HAVE TO APPLAUD, APPLAUD EVERY, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS HERE WHO HELPED, GOT IN, HELPED, UH, CITIZENS OF NATIONAL CITY. THAT WAS GREAT. BUT I WAS SITTING BACK AND I WAS THINKING ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED THE FIRST COUNCIL MEETING AFTER THAT HAPPENED AND THE CROWD WAS HERE AND SCREAMING FOR THE MAYOR TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, AND THEY TAKE ACTION. WE'RE SITTING HERE NOW LOOKING RETROSPECT AND SEEING THE MAYOR DIDN'T HAVE THE POWER TO DO WHAT WAS NEEDED TO GIVE THE, UM, THE, UH, CITIZENS SATISFACTION WE'RE LEARNING NOW THAT THE COUNT, THE, THE, THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY HAD THE POWER TO DO THAT, YET WE DIDN'T KNOW THAT. WE POORLY COMMUNICATED THAT AT THE TIME. AND IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE, YOU KNOW, NOBODY KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON OR IS IT UNDERSTANDABLE. WE DIDN'T HAVE A PLAN. WE DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO COMMUNICATE THAT. WE DIDN'T KNOW TO DIRECT THE PEOPLE TO THE COUNTY IN THESE CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES. THE COUNTY WAS REACTING, THEY WERE SLOW. SO WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO? I THINK THE THING IS TO COME UP WITH A PLAN. THE OTHER PART I WANTED TO TELL YOU IS I'M LOOKING AT THIS AND THIS IS A PROBLEM THAT'S, OR A SOLUTION THAT'S BEING PROPOSED LOOKING FOR A PROBLEM. I DON'T THINK THOSE PROBLEMS THAT WE DEFINED ARE HERE ANYMORE. A LOT OF THE RESIDENTS ARE NOW BEING SERVICED THAT THEY SHOULD AS THEY SHOULD BE SERVICED. BUT I ALSO SEE THERE'S A LOT OF CONFUSION IN RETROSPECT IN PUTTING THE RISK ON THE OWNERS AND THE PROPOSED SOLUTIONS HERE. I'M A LONG TIME NATIONAL CITY RESIDENT. I'M A OWNER OF A RENTAL. I TREAT MY RENTER REALLY GREAT. UM, IT WAS MY MOTHER'S HOUSE. I WANT TO KEEP THE HOUSE IN TOP SHAPE, NOT ONLY FOR THE RENTERS, BUT FOR MY MOTHER TO HONOR MY MOTHER. AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF HOMEOWNERS IN THE SAME BOAT, YET I FEEL I'M GETTING PENALIZED OR CRITICIZED FROM THE GET GO WHEN THESE THINGS HAPPEN. AND I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND. WELL, MAYBE I DO UNDERSTAND WHY THAT HAPPENED. YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A LITTLE CONFUSION ON WHETHER ANY OF YOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS HERE ARE HOMEOWNERS OR NOT. INITIALLY Y'ALL SAID NO, BUT NOW I FIND OUT ONE IS I CAN'T HELP. WHY WOULD SOMEBODY DENY THAT FOR THAT MOMENT IN TIME? THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. NEXT WE HAVE, UH, GEORGE CHING. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. UH, GEORGE SHING WITH THE PACIFIC SOUTHWEST ASSOCIATION, REALTORS HERE TO SPEAK AGAINST THE CREATION OF ANOTHER ORDINANCE AND INSTEAD SPEAK IN FAVOR OF EDUCATION AND ENFORCEMENT REGARDING THE EXISTING COUNTY AND STATE REGULATIONS. UH, DUPLICATE, UH, LAWS CAN CAUSE INEFFICIENCY, UH, INCONSISTENT OUTCOMES, CONFUSION. UM, AND, AND ONE OF THE PROBLEMS I THINK, UH, RELATING TO WHAT COULD BE AN ISSUE WITH RE CODIFYING SOMETHING THAT MIGHT ALREADY, STILL, STILL BE THERE. UM, IT IS [02:05:01] CONFUSION AND INADVERTENT VIOLATIONS, ESPECIALLY WHEN BOTH PARTIES ARE NOT CLEAR ON WHAT'S ALREADY LAW. UM, I GUESS TO PUT IT IN LAYMAN'S TERMS, IF, IF YOU ALREADY HAVE SOMETHING ON THEIR CONTRACT AND YOU'RE HEARING SOMEBODY ELSE SAY TO THE OTHER PERSON, YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU OFFER TO GIVE IT BACK. THAT SORT OF CREATES THE IMPRESSION OR POTENTIAL IMPRESSION THAT, OH, I DO HAVE TO GIVE IT BACK. MEANING THAT THERE IS AN AVENUE TO DO THAT. SO SOMEBODY MIGHT THINK THAT THEY CAN, WHEN THEY IN FACT CAN'T, AS HAS BEEN EXPLAINED BY THE PREVIOUS SPEAKERS, BASED ON CURRENT LAW, THEY, THE, THE CURRENT CONTRACTS REMAIN IN EFFECT. AND TELLING SOMEBODY THAT THEY HAVE TO OFFER BACK SORT OF CREATES AN AVENUE WHERE SOMEBODY MIGHT INADVERTENTLY VIOLATE BECAUSE THEY THINK THEY HAVE A RIGHT THAT THEY ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE. UM, AND IT, IT WILL GET FIXED BY THE LAW 'CAUSE THE LAW STANDS SO IT'LL BE RESOLVED BY THE EXISTING LAWS, BUT IN THE MEANTIME, YOU'VE PUT THE TENANT IN A SITUATION WHERE THEY FEEL LIKE THEY, THEY MIGHT END UP GETTING EVICTED AND YOU'VE MAYBE, UH, GIVEN THE LANDLORD AN AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO, UH, BREAK THE LAW WHEN MAYBE THEY WOULDN'T HAVE OTHERWISE IF YOU HADN'T TOLD THEM THAT YOU HAVE TO GIVE IT BACK WHEN THERE'S NO REASON YOU HAVE TO TELL SOMEBODY TO GIVE IT BACK IF THE CURRENT AGREEMENT IS, IS IN EFFECT. UM, SO THAT, THAT'S THE MAIN THING. WE DON'T WANT TO CAUSE THE INADVERTENT VIOLATIONS, UH, OR, OR WASTE RESOURCES THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO, UH, ENFORCING SOMETHING THAT THAT MAYBE ISN'T. BUT IT, TO SPEAK TO THAT POINT, IT, IT, IT IS IMPORTANT TO LET BOTH SIDES KNOW OF THEIR RIGHTS AND THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE THAT CONFUSION. AND THEN EVEN IF YOU TELL SOMEBODY YOU HAVE TO GIVE BACK, THEY'LL KNOW, OKAY, I, BUT I CAN'T TAKE IT AWAY IN THE FIRST PLACE. SO JUST CLARITY ON ALL SIDES IS IMPORTANT. SO THANKS FOR YOUR TIME. OKAY. UM, MELANIE WOODS. OKAY, GOOD EVENING AND HAPPY ELECTION DAY. I'M MELANIE WOODS WITH THE CALIFORNIA APARTMENT ASSOCIATION. UM, FIRST I WANNA THANK THE CITY ATTORNEY FOR THE VERY BALANCED PRESENTATION ON PRESENTING THE LAW AS IT STANDS NOW. 'CAUSE I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. UM, DURING OUR LAST MEETING ON THIS COUNCIL MEMBERS ASKED FOR CONCRETE EVIDENCE THAT EVICTION OR FOUL PLAY OF ANY KIND HAS OCCURRED. NO SUCH EVIDENCE HAS BEEN BROUGHT FORWARD. INSTEAD, WE HAVE A LOT OF EVIDENCE ON THE VAST MAJORITY OF TENANTS RECEIVING FINANCE, FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE, AND EMERGENCY AID. UM, THANKS TO YOUR HELP. UM, SO WE DO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT'S BEING BROUGHT FORWARD TODAY. UM, FIRST REGARDING TEMPORARY AND RELOCATION BENEFITS, WE ARE FUNDAMENTALLY OPPOSED TO PROPERTY OWNERS HAVING TO PAY RELOCATION BENEFITS AFTER THE DISASTER. UM, THE VAST MAJORITY OF TENANTS HAVE QUALIFIED FOR EMERGENCY AID, AND THE FACT IS THEY DON'T NEED THIS RELOCATION ASSISTANCE TO FIND STABLE HOUSING WHILE THEIR UNITS BEING REPAIRED. THEY'VE ALREADY FOUND THAT IN 78 OF 80 CASES, UM, PROPERTY OWNERS ARE MAKING LARGE SCALE UNANTICIPATED REPAIRS TO THEIR PROPERTIES. AND THEY'RE ALSO NOT RECE IN MANY CASES, NOT RECEIVING RENTAL INCOME WHILE THESE UNITS ARE UNINHABITABLE. SO THEY'RE BEING ASKED TO PAY RELOAD. BEING ASKED TO PAY RELOCATION ASSISTANCE ON TOP OF THOSE THINGS IS JUST TOO MUCH OF A FINANCIAL BURDEN FOR MOM AND POP LANDLORDS. AND QUITE FRANKLY, IT'S GOING TO EVENTUALLY DRIVE PEOPLE OUT OF THE HOU RENTAL HOUSING MARKET. UM, NEXT, THE DELAY OF RENT INCREASES. UM, SO RENT INCREASES TYPICALLY OCCUR WHEN A TENANT IS SIGNING A NEW LEASE. A SHORT TERM LIMITATION ON RENTAL INCREASES IS ACTUALLY JUST GOING TO INCENTIVIZE LANDLORDS TO DELAY SIGNING NEW LEASES. THEY'RE GONNA PUSH BACK UNTIL THE LAST POSSIBLE MINUTE WHEN THEY CAN ACTUALLY INCREASE THEIR RENT AT THE DESIRED AMOUNT. SO THIS SHORT TERM CAP COULD ACTUALLY RESULT IN LESS HOUSING STABILITY FOR TENANTS BECAUSE OF THIS UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES. UM, THEY'RE GONNA CONSIDER PROBABLY PUTTING TENANTS ON MONTH TO MONTH LEASES UNTIL THIS TEMPORARY SUBSTANTIAL RENT CAP HAS BEEN LIFTED AND THEY CAN COLLECT THE FULL RENTS THAT THEY SET OUT TO COLLECT. UM, NEXT ON RIGHT OF RETURN. UM, LIKE THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER NOTED, WE ARE NOT OPPOSED TO FLOOD VICTIMS RETURNING TO THEIR UNITS AFTER THE REPAIRS HAVE BEEN MADE. I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE WE WANT THAT TO HAPPEN AND MOVE FORWARD. WHAT WE ARE OPPOSED TO IS THE IDEA IS CREATING AMBIGUOUS LANGUAGE THAT HAS UNINTENDED [02:10:01] CONSEQUENCES BECAUSE IT'S DIFFICULT TO IMPLEMENT AND TENANTS AND LANDLORDS DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW. THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE LAW REGARDING RIGHT OF RETURN IS WHEN A TENANCY ENDS. SO YOU'RE CREATING THIS MECHANISM FOR HOW A TENANCY ENDS WITHOUT TENDENCIES ENDING. SO WE ALL AGREE UNDER THE MORATORIUM, NO TENDENCIES ARE ENDING. SO BY PUTTING RIGHT OF RETURN LANGUAGE INTO AN ORDINANCE, YOU'RE ACTUALLY IMPLYING THAT IT COULD END AND IT WEAKENS THE EXISTING PROTECTIONS THAT TENANTS HAVE UNDER THE MORATORIUM. THE TENANT SHOULD NOT HAVE TO TAKE ANY ACTION TO ENSURE THEIR TENANCY CONTINUES AND NOTICING REQUIREMENTS ON THE PART OF THE LANDLORD AND THE TENANT OVERCOMPLICATE THAT SIMPLE FACT, WHICH IS THEY ARE ALLOWED TO RETURN TO THEIR UNIT UNDER THEIR CONTRACT ONCE HABITABILITY IS RESTORED. UM, LASTLY ON THE COUNTY ORDINANCE, UM, I THINK THIS WAS KIND OF POINTED OUT, BUT WE HAVE SOME STRONG CONCERNS REGARDING THE DEFINITIONS USED IN THE COUNTY ORDINANCE. AND WHAT WE HAVE HEARD FROM PRACTICING ATTORNEYS IS THAT THEY'VE JUST RECOMMENDED THAT THEIR CLIENTS WAIT UNTIL THE 60 DAYS ARE OVER IN ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ANY EVICTION IN THESE ZIP CODES. SO THE DEFINITIONS ARE VAGUE ENOUGH THAT THEY'RE APPLYING TO EVERYONE IN THE ZIP CODES AND NOT JUST THE PEOPLE, THE FLOOD IMPACTED VICTIMS. SO IF YOU'RE MOVING FORWARD USING THAT COUNTY FRAMEWORK, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO TIGHTEN UP THOSE DEFINITIONS BEFORE YOU MOVE FORWARD. THANK YOU. THAT'S THE END OF OUR SPEAKERS ON THIS. UM, LET ME ASK STAFF, HAVE WE HAD ANY INDICATION FROM THE COUNTY ON WHERE THEY'RE LOOKING AT AS FAR AS POSSIBLE EXTENSION? I, I KNOW WE'RE ONLY, YOU KNOW, UH, WE HAD A SHORT MONTH, FEBRUARY WAS A SHORT MONTH, AND SO WE'VE ONLY HAD, WHAT, FIVE WEEKS? ABOUT FIVE WEEKS OF THE, SO FAR. AND SO THIS WOULD EXTEND ON TO THE END OF THIS MONTH. BUT CARLOS, GARY HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, UM, AND NO MAYOR, WE HAVE NOT HEARD MM-HMM, , UM, AS TO WHAT WILL HAPPEN AFTER, UH, THE ORDINANCE. THE CURRENT ORDINANCE EXPIRES. OKAY. YEAH. I, I THINK THE ONE DIFFERENCE IS, LIKE WAS MENTIONED, UH, WHEN YOU HAVE WATER DAMAGE, WHETHER IF IT'S A BUSTED PIPE OR THE NEIGHBOR UPSTAIRS OVERFLOWS HIS BATHTUB AND IT COMES ON, COMES ON THROUGH SOMEONE'S CEILING, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A, THAT'S AN ISOLATED SITUATION AND YOU CAN GET A CONTRACT IN AND YOU CAN DEAL WITH IT. AND I KNOW, I GUESS BY STATE LAW, THEY HAVE THE, THE, UH, PROPERTY OWNER HAS TO PUT UP A PERSON AND, BUT, BUT THEY HAVE TO HAVE THE REPAIRS DONE WITHIN 30 DAYS. AND SO THERE'S SOME STRICT DEFINITION WHEN WE END UP WITH A NATURAL DISASTER LIKE THIS, IT GOES OVER A LARGER AREA, YOU KNOW, AND HEAVEN FORBID, BUT JUST IMAGINE IF THIS WAS AN EARTHQUAKE SITUATION, WHICH WOULD'VE BEEN OVER A MUCH LARGER AREA, MUCH MORE DEVASTATION ALL AT ONCE. UM, THERE'S, THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF DIFFERENT, ONE THING, YOU GOT ALL THESE INSURANCE COMPANIES GONNA GO CRAZY INSTEAD OF YOU JUST HAVING, YOU KNOW, A UNIT GOT FLOODED TYPE OF THING, OR A COUPLE UNITS GETTING FLOODED. IT'S A WHOLE LOT DIFFERENT WHEN YOU HAVE THIS LARGE SCALE IN AN AREA INVOLVING SO MANY INSURANCE COMPANIES AND, AND AT FIRST NOT EVEN KNOWING HOW, HOW BIG THE DAMAGE REALLY EVEN WAS. UM, SO YOU HAVE THAT, AND THEN YOU TRY TO GET SOME, EVEN AFTER YOU GET CLARITY FROM YOUR INSURANCE COMPANIES, THEN TRY TO GET CONTRACTORS TO DO THIS BECAUSE YOU ONLY HAVE SO MANY CONTRACTORS OUT THERE AT ANY ONE TIME THAT ARE JUST SITTING, WAITING FOR BUSINESS. UM, AND YET NOW YOU GOT ALL THIS WORK ALL AT ONCE. UM, AND SO IT DELAYS IT OUT A WHOLE LOT MORE. SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE 60 DAYS IS, IN THIS CASE, IS GONNA BE A LITTLE HARD TO DEAL WITH, UM, AS FAR AS TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THOSE UNITS ARE, ARE BACK IN, IN, UH, IN SHAPE. SO I WOULD HOPE, I WOULD HOPE, AND I THINK WE NEED TO TALK WITH OUR, UH, UH, COUNTY, UH HUH COUNTERPARTS. COUNTERPARTS, YEP. UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE LOOK REAL CAREFUL AT WHERE WE'RE AT IN THIS SITUATION TO SEE DOES THERE NEED TO BE AN EXTENSION AND, UH, OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING. AND CERTAINLY WITHIN THAT EXTENSION, UM, I THINK MS. WOODS MADE MENTION ABOUT NEEDING TO, TO CHECK ON DEFINITIONS. THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD TIME TO, TO BRING UP THOSE NEED FOR DEFINITIONS IF THERE IS THAT EXTENSION. UM, SO I, I THINK [02:15:01] WE NEED THAT AT THE, AT, AT THE, UH, AT THE VERY LEAST. THE, UH, AT THE SAME TIME, THIS IS NOT A, THIS SHOULD NOT BE AN EXERCISE TO, YOU KNOW, PUNISH THE PROPERTY OWNERS, BECAUSE AS WAS BROUGHT OUT, THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE THE RE MAKE THE REPAIRS DURING THIS TIME. THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE GETTING RENT. UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE GOING. SO THEY'RE GONNA HAVE EXPENSES, THEY'RE NOT GONNA HAVE INCOME. AND YET WE, WE TAKE A LOOK AT THE TENANTS, WE GO, OKAY, THE TENANTS ARE NOT GONNA HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, ARE GONNA HAVE EXPENSES. OF COURSE, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE PAYING RENT, UH, DURING THAT TIME. SO THERE'S BOTH SIDES END UP HAVING, YOU KNOW, SHARING, SHARING SOME OF, SOME OF THE SUFFERING. AND NOT ALL, UM, NOT ALL PROPERTY OWNERS ARE, YOU KNOW, THESE MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR CORPORATIONS. UM, IN FACT, I THINK YOU COULD TAKE A LOOK. MOST OF THEM HERE IN NATIONAL CITY ARE VERY SMALL TIME PROPERTY OWNERS. MANY OF 'EM ONLY HAVE ONE UNIT OR MAYBE TWO UNITS. A LOT OF TIMES IT IS ONE OF THEIR PARENTS' HOMES AS WAS BROUGHT OUT, SOMETHING ALONG THAT LINE. A LOT OF TIMES IT'S A SENIOR THAT THAT'S THEIR INCOME THAT THEY HAVE TO MAKE THEIR NEXT MONTH'S PAYMENTS ON THEIR BILLS. THAT'S, THAT'S THEIR INCOME SOURCE IN RETIREMENT. UM, SO WE GOTTA BALANCE OUT THE TWO AND NOT USE THIS AS, AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO UNBALANCE THE SCALES. AND I THINK WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS THOSE FIRST COUPLE DAYS, THERE WAS A LOT OF CONFUSION WHAT WAS GONNA HAPPEN, BECAUSE WE REALLY HADN'T BEEN THROUGH THIS BEFORE. UH, CLOSEST THING WAS THE, YOU KNOW, THE WILDFIRES, BUT THOSE WEREN'T IN AN URBAN AREA, WORLD OF DIFFERENCE. UM, THIS IS THE FIRST THING THAT WE'VE REALLY HAD TO EXPERIENCE LIKE THIS IN THIS, THIS REGION. UM, SO I AGREE THERE REALLY WASN'T A PLAN. YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT AN EARTHQUAKE PLAN, WE GOT THERE, THERE'S ALL KIND OF CONTINGENCIES, CONSTANTLY DONE, STUFF LIKE THAT. AND, BUT THIS ONE, THERE JUST REALLY WASN'T A PLAN FOR THERE TO BE A FLOOD IN SAN DIEGO, A REGION. UM, SO THERE WAS THAT CONFUSION. AND FOR THE, AND TO THEIR CREDIT, PARTICULARLY THE ONE APARTMENT COMPLEX, THEY PUT UP THEIR TENANTS IMMEDIATELY AND PAID FOR IT. AND I THINK IT WAS FOR THE FIRST SEVEN DAYS, THEN THEY EXTENDED TO 10 DAYS. BY THAT TIME, THE CITY MONEY STARTED KICKING IN, THE COUNTY, MONEY STARTED KICKING IN, AND NOW WE HAVE THE FEMA MONEY. THAT'S, THAT'S PICKING UP ALL OF THIS AS A DISASTER. UM, AND, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S HOW THE SYSTEM SHOULD WORK. BUT IT'S THOSE FIRST COUPLE DAYS WHERE A REAL CONFUSION, AND I THINK THAT A LOT OF FEARS AND EVERYTHING ELSE WENT IN THE MIDST OF THAT. UM, I WANT US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO REACT TO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, BUT SAME TIME, MAKE SURE WE DON'T OVERREACT TILL WE CAUSE UN UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES. SO I THINK AS WE LOOK AT THESE OPTIONS, UM, I THINK WE NEED TO KEEP THAT, THAT IN MIND. UH, MEMBER RODRIGUEZ. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I THINK, UM, CONTEXT IS IMPORTANT AND, UM, SO MAJOR FLOOD THAT WE HAVEN'T SEEN IN DECADES HAPPENED, UM, THROUGH THE ENTIRE COUNTY. OUR COMMUNITY WAS IMPACTED HEAVILY. NEARLY 200 UNITS WERE COMPLETELY FLOODED, RIGHT? AND, UM, UH, MANY OF THOSE WERE TENANTS AND WERE, UH, RENTING, UM, THE FOLLOWING DAY, UM, UH, ALL OF OUR CREWS WERE OUT, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, AND ASSESSING THE DAMAGE AND TRYING TO HELP PEOPLE OUT. AND IT BECAME EVIDENT THAT, UH, THERE WAS A LARGE, UH, CLUSTER OF APARTMENTS AND MOBILE HOMES AND HOMES THAT WERE IMPACTED OVER BY THE DIVISION STREET, UH, THE SEVENTH STREET CHANNEL, UM, WHICH IS WHERE IT PASSES THROUGH. AND, UH, I REMEMBER, UM, HEADING OUT WITH MY CITY MANAGER, UM, TO THE APARTMENTS RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO THE, UH, HAPPY HOLLOW AND SPEAKING TO MANAGEMENT. AND THERE WAS MANAGEMENT THERE, AND THERE WAS REPRESENTATIVE OF OWNERSHIP THERE. AND, UM, I REMEMBER THEM TELLING US, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. WE'RE TAKING PICTURES, EVERYTHING'S GONNA BE FINE. WE'RE GONNA PUT PEOPLE IN PLACES, DON'T WORRY. EVERYTHING'S GOOD. WE THOUGHT THIS IS GREAT. THANK YOU GUYS FOR, YOU KNOW, TAKING CARE OF PEOPLE AND ACTING IN A MANNER IN WHICH IS BEFITTING OF THE CIRCUMSTANCE. AND THEN WHAT HAPPENED WAS PEOPLE WERE GHOSTED FOR TWO DAYS. UM, THEY WERE, THEY WERE GIVEN A TWO DAY VOUCHER, UH, 24 FAMILIES, AND THEN THEY WERE NOT CONTACTED AT ALL. AND WHEN THEY WERE CONTACTED ON FRIDAY, JANUARY 26TH, AND I'LL READ THIS LETTER, AND I, AND I SAY THIS BECAUSE CONTEXT MATTERS. SO WHEN WE SAY CONTEXT MATTERS, SO, SO, SO I'LL SAY THIS, I'LL, I'LL READ THE LETTER. THIS IS FROM HIGHLAND VIEW APARTMENTS, UH, FROM FPI MANAGEMENT, 2 0 3 LARE AVENUE ON JANUARY 26TH, 2004, [02:20:02] 2024, UM, RE, NATIONAL CITY'S INSURANCE AND NOTICE OF ORDER TO VACATE AND EXPIRATION OF RELOCATION, EXPLANATION OF RELOCATION BENEFITS. DEAR RESIDENTS OF HIGHLAND VIEW APARTMENTS, WERE WRITING TO ADDRESS THE HISTORIC FLOOD THAT HAS IMPACTED OUR PROPERTY AT HIGHLAND VIEW APARTMENTS 31 THROUGH 1, 31 NORTH HIGHLAND AVENUE IN NATIONAL CITY, CALIFORNIA. WE UNDERSTAND THIS SITUATION IS INCREDIBLY DISRUPTIVE AND UNSETTLING, AND WE WANNA ASSURE YOU THAT IT IS OUR TOP PRIORITY. THAT OUR TOP PRIORITY IS THE SAFETY AND WELLBEING OF ALL OF OUR TENANTS. UNFORTUNATELY, THE DAMAGE CAUSED BY THE FLOODING IS EXTENSIVE AND NECESSITIES AND NECESSITATES IMMEDIATE REPAIR. YESTERDAY, THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY CONDUCTED AN INSPECTION OF THE BUILDING, AND AS A RESULT, ISSUED US A NOTICE AND ORDER TO VACATE AND REPAIR OR DEMOLISH THE PROPERTY. THE CITY FOUND THAT THE EXCESSIVE MOISTURE DUE TO THE FLOODING WILL REQUIRE US TO OBTAIN PERMITS AND CONDUCT SIGNIFICANT REPAIRS. AS A RESULT, WE DO NOT HAVE THE PRECISE UNDERSTANDING OF HOW LONG IT'LL TAKE TO COMPLETE THE REPAIRS. HOWEVER, PRELIMINARY ESTIMATES ARE SEVERAL MONTHS. AS A RESULT, WE DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE YOU WITH HOUSING, AND YOU WILL NEED TO BEGIN LOOK LOOKING FOR ALTERNATIVE LONG-TERM ACCOMMODATIONS. WE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS NEWS, THAT THIS NEWS IS UNWELCOME, AND WE APOLOGIZE FOR THE INCONVENIENCE IT HAD COST. THIS WAS A NATURAL DISASTER OVER WHICH WE HAD NO CONTROL. UM, THOUGH WE NONETHELESS FEEL FOR EACH OF OUR TENANTS WHO ARE DEALING WITH CONSEQUENCES, WE DO WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT WE'RE COMMITTED TO MAKING THIS TRANSITION AS SMOOTH AS POSSIBLE FOR EACH OF OUR TENANTS. THE FOLLOWING KEY DETAILS THAT YOU NEED TO KNOW, TEMPORARY ACCOMMODATION. A COURTESY AS A COURTESY DUE TO THE DISASTER SITUATION. MANAGEMENT PROVIDED FREE HOTEL ROOMS TO ALL RESIDENTS FOR THE NIGHT OF JANUARY 23RD THROUGH JANUARY 24TH. THOSE TWO DAYS HOTEL COSTS ARE COVERED BY MANAGEMENT. AS A COURTESY. MANAGEMENT WILL CONTINUE TO COVER RESIDENCE, TEMPORARY HOTEL ACCOMMODATION UP TO AND UNTIL JANUARY 20. JANUARY 31ST, YOU WILL INCUR COSTS FOR ANY HOTEL STAY THAT CONTINUES AFTER JANUARY 31ST. RENTAL CREDIT MANAGEMENT IS COLLECTING, MANAGEMENT IS CREDITING ALL RESIDENTS RENT FROM JANUARY 23RD THROUGH JANUARY 31ST, 2024. OF COURSE, BEGINNING FEBRUARY 1ST, YOU WILL NO LONGER BE REQUIRED TO PAY RENT AS WE'RE NO LONGER ABLE TO PROVIDE YOU WITH HOUSING. AS A RESULT, THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY'S ORDER AS A RESULT OF THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY'S ORDER, AND THUS, YOUR TENANCY WITH US MUST UNFORTUNATELY BE TERMINATED. SO RESIDENTS WERE GIVEN THIS ATTACHED TO THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITIES, UM, NOTICE TO VACATE. AND THEY WERE TELLING RESIDENTS, YOU MUST LEAVE AND YOUR TENANCY MUST END. AND WE HAVE SOMEBODY COMING WITH CHECKS THAT ARE GONNA BE GIVING YOU TWO MONTHS WORTH OF RENT. AND THAT'S THAT. AND I KNOW THAT BECAUSE I WAS THERE, UM, AND I SHOWED UP AND THERE WAS MAD CHAOS, UM, YOU KNOW, AMONG RESIDENTS AND ATTORNEYS GOT INVOLVED. AND, BUT I THINK IT WAS SUCH A POOR AND BAD FAITH AT THAT TIME THAT IT CREATED SUCH, UM, HOSTILITY THAT WAS OCCURRING DURING A VERY TRAGIC SITUATION OF PEOPLE JUST LOSING ALL THEIR POSSESSIONS. SO, SO I SAY ALL THAT TO SAY THAT CONTEXT MATTERS. AND I THINK, I THINK, UM, TO THIS COUNCIL'S CREDIT, I THINK FOLKS JUST WANT TO BE REASONABLE. AND THE TENANTS HAVE BROUGHT UP JUST VERY REASONABLE THINGS. YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD LIKE TO RETURN, THEY WOULD LIKE, LIKE A CHANCE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CONTINUE WITH THEIR TENANCY SO THAT THEY PAY THE SAME RENT. UM, THOSE ARE VERY REASONABLE THINGS. THEY WANT KIND OF SOME KIND OF SIGN TIME CERTAINTY. THOSE ARE VERY REASONABLE. AND I THINK US AS A CITY AND THE COUNTY HAVE BEEN SO ACCOMMODATING AND SUPPORTING. UM, IF IT WASN'T FOR THE COUNTY EVICTION MORATORIUM THAT PASSED THE FOLLOWING TUESDAY, SO THAT LETTER WAS SENT ON FRIDAY, THE FOLLOWING TUESDAY, THE COUNTY ENDED UP PASSING THEIR EMERGENCY ORDINANCE. THERE WAS A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY BECAUSE IT WAS A FLOOD SITUATION. MM-HMM, THAT TENANTS WERE GONNA BE EVICTED. SO IF THE COUNTY HADN'T ACTED, THE LANDLORD FELT LIKE THEY WERE IN A POSITION TO EVICT DOZENS OF FAMILIES FROM OUR COMMUNITY AFTER A FLOOD, THAT'S JUST NOT OKAY. MM-HMM. . SO I'M THANKFUL FOR THE COUNTY TO STEP IN. I THINK US AS A CITY COULD HAVE STEPPED IN SOONER AND COULD HAVE ACTED BECAUSE THAT WAS WHAT WAS NEEDED AT THE TIME. UM, THAT'S THE WAY I THINK GOVERNMENT SHOULD WORK AND ACT IN TIMES OF NEED. AND SO, UM, ALSO A PART OF THE COUNTY ORDINANCE WAS A $10 MILLION FUND THAT HELPS, UH, WITH HOUSING COSTS, WITH, WITH PLACING PEOPLE SOMEWHERE FOR THE NIGHT AT A HOTEL STAY. I THINK US AS A CITY, WE'VE BEEN VERY ACCOMMODATING AS WELL, UTILIZING SOME OF OUR FUNDS TO CONTINUE TO ASSIST THESE PARTICULAR TENANTS AT THIS PARTICULAR PLACE IN ORDER TO TAKE THAT COST AWAY FROM THE LANDLORD. AND [02:25:01] SO I THINK THOSE ARE ALL VERY REASONABLE THINGS. AND I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, FROM FROM CONVERSATIONS THAT OUR MANAGEMENT HAS HAD WITH THE OWNERS, I MEAN, WE ARE READY TO PROVIDE PERMITS WHENEVER NEEDED, RIGHT? WE'RE, WE'RE WILLING AND ABLE TO HELP AND PROVIDE AND HELP THEM TO GET THEIR BUSINESS BACK UP AND RUNNING. 'CAUSE THE BEST SOLUTION OUTTA THIS IS TO MAKE SURE THOSE UNITS ARE OCCUPIED AS QUICKLY, ARE FIXED AND OCCUPIED AGAIN, WITH AT TENANTS. AND SO, AND SO THAT'S, I THINK, WHAT'S IMPORTANT. UM, THE OTHER THING TO NOTE AND CONTEXT AGAIN, MATTERS. UH, THE SAME COMPANY WAS TELLING RESIDENTS, OH, YOU'RE WELCOME TO APPLY AT ONE OF OUR OTHER COMPLEXES, WHICH THEY, UH, MANAGE ANOTHER COMPLEX, THE LA RE AND IT'S ABOUT A HUNDRED UNITS. THE PROBLEM WAS THEY WERE ASKING THEM TO REAPPLY AND PAY MARKET RATE RENT, WHICH FOR THOSE APARTMENTS THAT THEY MANAGE IS $2,800 TWO BEDROOMS AND $3,200 THREE BEDROOMS, WHICH IS ROUGHLY A THOUSAND DOLLARS MORE THAN WHAT RESIDENTS CURRENTLY PAY, UM, AT THEIR PLACE BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOR 15 AND 20 YEARS. SO THAT MATTERS. CONTEXT MATTERS. I MEAN, THESE ARE WORKING CLASS FAMILIES, SOME OF WHICH ARE ON FIXED INCOMES. HOW ARE WE NOT WILLING TO BE ABLE TO ACT AND, AND HELP THEM? AND IT'S IN A TIME OF NEED WHERE IT'S NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN. THEY'VE BEEN THRUSTED IN THIS SITUATION AND ASKED TO JUST APPLY FOR A NEW MARKET RATE APARTMENT AT A THOUSAND DOLLARS MORE SEEMS UNREASONABLE. AND SO I THINK, I THINK JUST, UM, THANK YOU, UH, BARRY AND YOUR TEAM FOR OVERSEEING THIS STUFF. I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF REASONABLE THINGS IN HERE THAT, UM, ANYBODY OBJECTIVELY LOOKING AT THIS WOULD SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE PROBABLY SHOULDN'T BE EVICTED AS A RESULT OF THIS. HEY, WE SHOULD BE ASSISTING THE LANDLORD, WHICH WE'VE DONE, AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO. SO I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF REASONABLE THINGS IN THERE, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO AT LEAST ONGOING, UM, UH, AN ONGOING POLICY DISCUSSION AND HOPEFULLY A FUTURE VOTE. BUT, UM, I, I, I SAY ALL THAT BECAUSE I, I THINK CONTEXT MATTERS, RIGHT? FOR EVERYBODY. AND SO I'M, I'M HOPING THAT MY COLLEAGUES WOULD LOOK AT REASONABLE OPTIONS SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. UH, MY INDICATIONS, BY THE WAY I'VE ASKED, UM, SOME COUNTY OFFICIALS IS THAT THEY WILL NOT BE, THEY WILL UNLIKELY BE, UM, EXTENDING THE, UH, EVICTION MORATORIUM ON THOSE FLOOD, UH, UNITS. AND SO THAT'S BEEN MY INDICATION, BUT UNLESS I HEAR OTHERWISE, UH, THAT I, I HEARD THAT LAST THURSDAY. SO, UM, YEAH, I LOOK FORWARD TO ONGOING, UH, CONVERSATIONS AND DISCUSSIONS. OKAY. THANK YOU, MEMBER ANI. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, I BELIEVE THAT, UM, I MEAN, UNFORTUNATE SITUATION SHOULD NOT BE USED TO BE THE CONTEXT OF THIS ORDINANCE. UM, I BELIEVE THAT, UM, THERE ARE EXISTING, UM, CONTRACT THAT, UM, THAT OUR BINDING BETWEEN THE LANDLORD AND THE TENANT. I ALSO BELIEVE THAT, UH, WITH THE 80 FAMILIES THAT WERE IMPACTED DURING THAT TIME OF, UM, OF DEVASTATION ON THE, ON THE 22ND OF JANUARY, I BELIEVE THAT OUR CITY, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN US THE STAFF, POLICE, FIRE, UM, WE WERE ALL THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IMPACTED FAMILIES ARE HELPED. AND IT SHOWS IN THE REPORT THAT 78 FAMILIES FROM THE 80 FAMILIES WHO ARE OUR CONSTITUENTS WHO LIVE IN NATIONAL CITY, ARE TAKEN CARE OF WITH REGARDS TO THEIR LANDLORD TENANT CONTRACT. WE HAVE SEEN THE LETTER FROM THEIR LAWYER THAT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THEIR RENT, THEIR RENT, THEY ARE GOING BACK TO THEIR UNITS BECAUSE THEY HAVE A BINDING CONTRACT. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE'RE GOING AROUND HERE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, TALKING ABOUT THE SAME THING. UM, BUT WE HAVE ADDRESSED THE PROBLEM. WE ARE, AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO, WITH REGARDS TO THE ORDINANCE FROM THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO. YOU KNOW, THEY MAY, THEY MAY NOT. IT'S ALL HEARSAY, RIGHT? WE DON'T KNOW. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT, UM, WHAT, UM, OBLIGATIONS OR OR SYMPATHIES THEY WOULD HAVE AS SUPERVISORS THERE AS THE, AS THE, UM, LEADERS OF OUR REGION, OF OUR COUNTY. UM, BUT WE HAVE ALSO HERE AS A LOCAL, UM, LEADERSHIP, A RESPONSIBILITY YOU INTO OUR, YOU KNOW, IMPACTED FAMILIES. AND WE ARE, AND WE ARE CONTINUING [02:30:01] TO. UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THE BALANCE THAT WE ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, LOOK AT HERE AS THE LEADERS, UM, OF OUR CITY SHOULD, SHOULD ALWAYS BE MAINTAINED. WE TAKE CARE OF OUR TENANTS, WE TAKE CARE OF OUR CONSTITUENTS, WE ALSO TAKE CARE OF OUR SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I, I WOULD, I WOULD, I I, I APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN THE VERY, VERY DETAILED, UM, EXPLANATION AND, AND PRESENTATION OF OUR COUNCIL, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THANK YOU FOR, FOR BEING PATIENT MOSTLY TO, FOR ALL OF US TO UNDERSTAND, UM, THE SITUATION. BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I, I DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD, UM, DO ANYTHING THAT WOULD, UM, THAT WOULD, UM, CREATE THE, THE, THE INCONSISTENCIES OR CREATE, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN PROBLEMS THAT AS A CITY WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SOLVE. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, RIGHT NOW, MAYOR, I WOULD, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I, I WOULD WAIT, UM, AND SEE WHAT ACTION THE COUNTY WILL, UM, MOVE FORWARD WITH. IN THE MEANTIME, WE TAKE CARE OF WHAT WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF AS A CITY. THANK YOU. UM, MEMBER MOLINA, THANK YOU, MAYOR. UH, THANK YOU, MS. YAMANE. I, UH, AGREE WITH YOUR STATEMENTS. UM, FIRST, I DO WANNA THANK MR. AGUIRE AND, UH, ATTORNEY SCHULTZ'S OFFICE FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVE PRESENTED TODAY. THIS IS EXACTLY THE INFORMATION THAT WE NEED IN ORDER TO MAKE SUCH IMPORTANT DECISIONS. AND ASKING THIS COUNSEL TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS WITHOUT HAVING THIS STUDY FOR US, WITHOUT HAVING THIS REPORT IS IRRESPONSIBLE. SO I AM VERY HAPPY TO HAVE RECEIVED THE INFORMATION NOW, UH, TO THE POINTS THAT WERE MADE. UH, AS FAR AS WHAT A POTENTIAL ORDINANCE COULD INCLUDE, UM, UH, I DO WANNA SPEAK TO EACH OF THEM FIRST. UM, BEFORE I BEGIN ON PICKING APART ALL OF THESE, UH, SUGGESTIONS, IT IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT US AS DECISION MAKERS AND REPRESENTATIVES OF THE CITY MUST BE FAIR TO BOTH TENANTS AND PROPERTY OWNERS. BOTH TENANTS AND PROPERTY OWNERS WERE AFFECTED BY THE FLOODING ON JANUARY 22ND. IT WASN'T ONLY TENANTS, IT WAS TENANTS AND PROPERTY OWNERS, AS WELL AS HOMEOWNERS, AS WELL AS OTHER PEOPLE, UNHOUSED, AS WELL AS A WHOLE VARIETY OF FOLKS. HOWEVER, THIS ORDINANCE, UM, AS SUGGESTED IS, IS FOCUSING ON ONLY TENANTS AFFECTED BY THIS FLOODING. I JUST WANNA MAKE IT CLEAR THOSE ARE NOT THE ONLY INDIVIDUALS AFFECTED BY THIS FLOOD. SO, TO BEGIN THE RELOCATION BENEFIT OPTIONS, IT'S THE FIRST ITEM THAT MR. SCHULTZ DESCRIBED. UH, I FIND BOTH OPTION ONE AND BO OPTION TWO TO BE PUNITIVE TO LANDLORDS. AND SO I DON'T AGREE THAT EITHER OF THESE RELOCATION BENEFIT OPTIONS SHOULD FALL TO LANDLORDS. IN ADDITION, I THINK THE COUNTY, WITH ALL OF THE RESOURCES THAT IT HAS, HAS HELPED INDIVIDUALS IMPACTED RENTERS THAT WERE IMPACTED AND DISPLACED. MR. AGUIRE MENTIONED THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY DID WHAT IT COULD TO HELP INDIVIDUALS THAT HAD TO LEAVE THEIR HOMES. SO IN ADDITION TO THAT, ASKING FOR THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY TO APPLY AN ORDINANCE THAT IS FURTHER GOING TO IMPACT THE LANDOWNERS, AND ASK THEM TO PROVIDE, UM, ADDITIONAL MONIES OR CREDIT IN THE FORM OF RENTAL CREDIT SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR A MONTH, YOU KNOW, UH, AFTER TWO MONTHS OF BEING DIS DIS DISPLACED FROM YOUR RESIDENCE. UM, ADDITIONAL RELOCATION BENEFITS OF THAT SORT TO ME FEEL AS PUNISHMENT TO THE LANDLORDS. AND, UM, AS INDICATED BY MR. SCHULTZ, A LOT OF THIS LANGUAGE CAME FROM LAWS THAT EXIST ALREADY, BUT THEY EXIST DUE TO LANDLORD NEGLIGENCE. AND THIS, UH, SITUATION IS NOT DUE TO LANDLORD NEGLIGENCE. THIS WAS A NATURAL DISASTER THAT NOBODY PREDICTED WOULD RESULT THE WAY IT DID. UH, SO I DO NOT AGREE THAT WE SHOULD INCLUDE IN A POTENTIAL ORDINANCE, RELOCATION BENEFIT OPTIONS THAT FALL SOLELY TO THE LANDLORD TO, UH, TO IMPLEMENT, UH, RESIDENTIAL RENTAL INCREASES. UM, I AM IN AGREEMENT WITH, UH, OPTION FOUR, WHICH [02:35:01] IS ALREADY THE ONE THAT IS IN PLACE IN THE COUNTY'S, UM, UH, ORDINANCE. SHOULD THE COUNTY'S ORDINANCE EXPIRE, UH, JANUARY AT THE END OF MARCH, I BELIEVE, UH, OR IF IT EVEN CONTINUES, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER 60 DAYS, SO IT WOULD COVER, UH, APRIL AND MAY. SO IT WOULD, IT WOULD END AT THE END OF MAY. UM, IF WE WERE TO EXTEND THAT AFTER MAY, MAYBE ANOTHER 30 DAYS, MAYBE ANOTHER 60 DAYS. I THINK THAT IS REASONABLE. HOWEVER, WE MUST BE CLEAR WITH THE INDIVIDUALS AFFECTED HERE. THESE, UM, UH, UM, PAUSE ON RESIDENTIAL RENTAL INCREASES WOULD CONTINUE TO TAKE EFFECT. WHETHER THE ORDINANCE FOR THE COUNTY ENDS IN MARCH, AND THERE'S NOTHING FURTHER IN NATIONAL CITY, OR IF IT ENDS AT THE BEGINNING OF JUNE, AND, YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY AND THE CITY'S ORDINANCE HAVE ENDED IN EITHER SITUATION, THE RENTAL INCREASES AS, UM, ALLOWED BY LAW. AND, AND THAT WOULD BE STATE LAW, YOU KNOW, UM, ARE TO BE EXPECTED, YOU KNOW? UM, AND IF THERE'S PROBLEMS WITH THAT, I DON'T THINK IT IS FOR THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM, BECAUSE RENTAL INCREASES, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS ALLOWED BY THE LAW OF, UH, THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. SO IF WE WERE TO ENACT AN ORDINANCE, I WOULD BE OKAY WITH OPTION FOUR, WHICH IS, UM, UH, EXTENDING WHAT THE COUNTY HAD ALREADY PUT IN PLACE. AND LASTLY, THE RIGHT OF FIRST REFUSAL. I THINK THIS MAKES A WHOLE LOT OF SENSE, ESPECIALLY IN THE FRAME THAT MR. SCHULTZ PUT IT IS, YOU KNOW, UM, PERHAPS IT NEEDS TO BE IN WRITING, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS TENANTS AND LANDLORDS, UM, YOU KNOW, HAVE SOME IDEA THAT THIS IS RIGHT OF FIRST REFUSAL IS IN PLACE. MAYBE IT IS BURIED SOMEWHERE IN THEIR RENTAL CONTRACTS. AND, YOU KNOW, AT THE TIME THAT A DISASTER HAPPENS, NOBODY'S GONNA GO LOOKING FOR IT. BUT IF YOU NEED IT TO BE, YOU KNOW, CRYSTAL CLEAR AND DEFINED THE WAY MR. SCHULTZ DEFINED IT HERE, I THINK THIS IS A VERY GOOD IDEA. MY PROBLEM WITH THIS IS, I THINK THIS SHOULD HAPPEN ACROSS ANY SCENARIO FOR ANY TENANT, NOT JUST FOR THE 30 OR 60 DAYS THAT NATIONAL CITY IS GOING TO APPLY. SO-CALLED EMERGENCY ORDINANCE. SO, UM, IN ESSENCE, I'M SAYING THIS MAKES SENSE, BUT IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE UNDER THE CONTEXT OF JUST A TEMPORARY ORDINANCE. AND SO, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS TEMPORARY ORDINANCE IS IN FACT THE RIGHT VEHICLE FOR HELPING TENANTS FEEL THE COMFORT THAT THEY NEED, THAT THEY HAVE RIGHT OF FIRST REFUSAL UPON ANY SITUATION WHERE THEY ARE DISPLACED. AND, UM, THEY SHOULD KNOW NOT JUST FLOOD VICTIMS FROM JANUARY 22ND, NOT JUST UP UNTIL THE END OF, UH, MAY OR WHENEVER THE ORDINANCE EXPIRES, BUT AT ANY TIME, THEY ARE ALLOWED BY LAW A RIGHT OF FIRST REFUSAL, UH, BECAUSE THEY IN FACT, HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THEIR LANDLORD. AND, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT HAS TO BE, UH, COMPLIED WITH. SO MY LAST, I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS, AND IT'S JUST TO MAKE A POINT, UM, MR. SCHULTZ, IF YOU CAN PLEASE HELP ME ADDRESS HOW MANY NATIONAL CITY RESIDENTS WERE EVICTED AS A RESULT OF THIS FLOOD, UH, THAT BEGAN JANUARY 27TH. UM, I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY THAT HAVE BEEN EVICTED. THANK YOU. UH, THE TENANTS ACROSS THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY, UH, WOULD THEY BE, UH, BENEFITING FROM THIS TEMPORARY ORDINANCE? TRY THAT AGAIN, . UH, WILL THIS ORDINANCE BENEFIT THE MAJORITY OF THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE TENANTS IN THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY? UH, NO. IT'S LIMITED TO ONLY AFFECTING THOSE TENANTS WHO HAVE SUFFERED ECONOMIC HARM AS A RESULT OF THE FLOOD. OKAY. AND MY LAST QUESTION IS, UM, SO THIS DELAY OF RESIDENTIAL RENT INCREASES, UH, BRIEFLY, CAN YOU PLEASE, YOU KNOW, REPEAT AGAIN, WHAT HAPPENS AFTER, UH, EITHER THE COUNTY'S ORDINANCE EXPIRES OR THE CITY'S ORDINANCE EXPIRES? WHAT HAPPENS TO THOSE DELAYED RENTAL RENT INCREASES? MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT ONCE THE ORDINANCE EXPIRES, THAT THE STATE LAW GOVERNING RENTAL INCREASES, WHICH WILL STILL APPLY. SO RENTS WOULD LIKELY INCREASE ANYWAY, DEPENDING UPON EACH CIRCUMSTANCE THAT IT, YES, AT SOME POINT. THANK YOU. [02:40:01] WHAT I FIND THE MOST TROUBLING IN THIS ENTIRE SITUATION IS THE ALARM THAT WAS CAUSED, UH, IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE, THE PANIC THAT HAD ENSUED. AND SO THERE WAS A LOT OF CONFUSION ALREADY WITH TENANTS HAVING TO LEAVE THEIR HOMES. UM, THE CITY HAVING RED TAGGED THE PROPERTIES, UH, THE, THE SPECIFIC PROPERTIES WE WERE TALKING ABOUT. UM, ON TOP OF ALL OF THAT CONFUSION, THERE WAS A CALL AND A RALLY TO BRING INDIVIDUALS TOWARDS, UM, A CITY COUNCIL MEETING. UH, ALSO BE SURE, YOU KNOW, INVITE ALL OF THE TV CAMERAS TO BE SURE TO CAPTURE ALL OF THIS. MIND YOU, THERE ARE NO TV CAMERAS HERE TODAY, PERHAPS, BECAUSE THIS IS A MOOT POINT, BUT THAT IS WHAT I FIND THE MOST IRRESPONSIBLE, IS PLAYING ON THE FEARS OF PEOPLE THAT ARE ALREADY IN THEIR MOST VULNERABLE POSITION, RALLYING THEM. WHO KNOWS WHAT WAS SAID TO THESE INDIVIDUALS? BECAUSE AS THEY CA YOU SAW THIS AS THEY CAME HERE TO THE COUNCIL, WERE THEY EXPECTING THAT WE WERE, YOU KNOW, GONNA GIVE THEM CASH RIGHT HERE, RIGHT THEN? NO, I, I MEAN, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT, THAT'S NOT THE WAY THAT THINGS WORK. HOWEVER, THIS RALLY, UH, THAT'S WHAT I FIND THE MOST IRRESPONSIBLE, IS PLAYING ON THE FEARS OF INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE ALREADY AT THEIR MOST BROKEN. AND, UM, I, I, AT THIS POINT, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN ORDINANCE THAT IS A MOOT POINT. AND, UM, I'M NOT SAYING WE SHOULD NOT BE PROTECTING OUR TENANTS, UH, FROM BAD LANDLORDS. UH, I'M SAYING WE SHOULD BE PROTECTING OUR TENANTS FROM INDIVIDUALS WHO WANT TO PLAY ON THEIR FEARS AND GIVE FALSE PROMISES. THANK YOU. UH, MEMBER BUSH. UH, YES, I APPRECIATE ALL THE SPEAKERS TONIGHT AND JUST ALL THE INFORMATION WE WERE GIVEN. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH STAFF FOR COMBING OVER THIS AND FOR JUST DOING SUCH A THOROUGH ANALYSIS. UH, I DO THINK THAT WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH ADDITIONAL, UH, PROTECTION AND ORDINANCE. AND I THINK THAT, UM, A LOT OF WHAT WAS PROPOSED HERE WAS REASONABLE. I DO HEAR MY COLLEAGUES ON SOME OF THE, UM, THERE ARE CONCERNS HERE, AND YEAH, WE, WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO BE BALANCED BETWEEN, UM, NOT, YOU KNOW, PUNISHING THE LANDLORDS, UM, UH, FOR, ESPECIALLY FOR A NATURAL DISASTER. I, I JUST THINK THIS, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE STILL DO HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY AND A POWER AS A GOVERNMENT AGENCY TO, TO, UH, TO PROTECT FOLKS IN A, IN A, IN A DISASTER. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THIS, UH, THIS DOES. UM, SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, UM, IT IS AFTER THE FACT A BIT. SO, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE, UH, CITY STAFF AND JUST, UH, PUBLIC AGENCIES, FEMA, IT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF THE, UM, THE, THE TENANT'S ISSUES, THE PROBLEMS BEFORE AND ALL THE INITIAL CHAOS THAT WAS RESOLVED. AND THAT'S, THAT'S GOOD. BUT I STILL THINK ADDING, UH, ANOTHER LAYER OF PROTECTION AND HAVING US, UM, UH, PASS THIS ORDINANCE, I THINK IT WOULD, UH, BE GOOD. SO, UM, TO, UM, WITHOUT HAVING TO REPEAT EVERYTHING THAT MY COLLEAGUE SAID, I THINK THERE WERE SOME GREAT POINTS MADE. AND, AND, AND INCLUDING MEMBER OF THE, OF THE, UH, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, UM, I STILL DO THINK WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD THE ORDINANCE. SO, BUT I DON'T WANT US TO, TO GO DOWN A PATH WHERE WE'RE, YOU KNOW, DEBATING THE MERITS IF WE'RE NOT JUST GONNA PROPOSE ONE ANYWAY. SO, I MEAN, I'D BE INTERESTED IN HEARING FROM MY COLLEAGUES IF, UM, UH, AND MAYBE THERE'S NOT, UM, A AGREEMENT WITH, UM, SOME OF THESE, UH, OPTIONS, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE RELOCATION OPTION. I BELIEVE THAT KIND OF AT THIS POINT IS A BIT OF A MOOT POINT. IS THAT CORRECT? CITY ATTORNEY? BECAUSE, UH, THE ALLOCATIONS HAVE ALREADY BEEN DETERMINED? YES, I THINK I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. OKAY. SO, SO THAT KIND OF TAKES CARE OF THAT, BUT I STILL THINK THAT THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD, SO SOME OF THESE I THINK COULD BE A GOOD MODEL FOR ANY FUTURE NATURAL DISASTER IN THE LONG TERM. SO I, SO I STILL DO THINK THAT THERE'S VALUE IN, IN THIS MOVING FORWARD, SOME OF THESE ADOPTED PRINCIPLES. SO, BUT I WANNA HEAR FROM MY COLLEAGUES. I MEAN, I'D STILL LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD, UM, WITH AN ORDINANCE. SO, UM, YEAH. IS THERE, UH, I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM MY COLLEAGUES IF YOU'RE STILL WILLING TO, TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ORDINANCE. AND IF SO, WHICH, WHICH ITEMS DO WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH? UM, IF I COULD AT THIS POINT, I THINK WE'RE, AS I'M HEARING IT, THE, THE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE BEEN AFFECTED BY THIS DISASTER, THEY ARE PROTECTED FROM, THERE ARE NO RENT INCREASES ALLOWED DURING THIS ORDINANCE THAT IS, THAT THE COUNTY CURRENTLY HAS OUT THERE, CORRECT? UH, YES. SO THE, THE COUNTY ORDINANCE DOES [02:45:01] RESTRICT, UH, RENTAL INCREASES. OKAY. AND THEN THEY ARE ALSO NOT FORCED TO PAY RENT WHILE THEY ARE NOT IN THE UNIT. UH, THE COUNTY ORDINANCE DOES NOT ADDRESS THAT. OKAY. THE, WHAT DO WE KNOW WHAT THE PRACTICE HAS BEEN? SO MY UNDERSTANDING HAS BEEN THAT THE TENANTS HAVE BEEN ADVISED BY TENANT ADVISORS THAT IF THEY WANT TO MAINTAIN THE RIGHT TO RETURN TO THEIR UNIT, THEY MUST CONTINUE TO PAY RENT. UM, AND WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS THAT UNDER LANDLORD TENANT LAW, IF YOU DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO YOUR UNIT, UM, THAT FACT CAN ACTUALLY BE A DEFENSE TO AN UNLAWFUL DETAINER, RIGHT? SO IT'S A DEFENSIVE ACTION, BUT, YOU KNOW, DO YOU, AS A TENANT, DO YOU SAY, WELL, I'LL JUST WAIT TILL THEY TRY TO EVICT ME AND USE THAT AS A DEFENSE, OR AM I GOING TO PROTECT MY RIGHT TO RETURN BY PAYING RENT? OKAY. AND UNDER THE CURRENT COUNTY ORDINANCE, DO YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO RETURN WITHOUT AN INCREASE IN THEIR RENT? UM, THE, THE COUNTY ORDINANCE DOESN'T ADDRESS THAT AS WELL. SO THERE'S, THERE'S NO SPECIFIC CLAUSE IN THE COUNTY ORDINANCE THAT I CAN FIND THAT SAYS THAT THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO RETURN. THE ARGUMENT IS YOU CAN'T BE EVICTED. OKAY? SO IF YOU CAN'T BE EVICTED, THAT MEANS THAT YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO RETURN, YOU'RE STILL UNDER CONTRACT, YOU'RE STILL UNDER CONTRACT. SO THAT'S WHAT THEY HAVE. OKAY. UM, SO MY CONCERN IS WITH SOMETHING THAT IS THIS LARGE, IF THE COUNTY STICKS TO 60 DAYS, THERE MAY BE, THAT MAY NOT BE LONG ENOUGH. IN OTHER WORDS, YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GET BACK INTO THOSE UNITS WITHIN 60 DAYS BECAUSE OF THE EXTENSIVE AMOUNT OF DAMAGE THAT THERE IS BY AND OVER AS SO MANY UNITS. AND WITH ALL THE, I'M GONNA CALL IT THE SWAMPING OF THE INSURANCE COMPANIES AND THE LACK OF CONTRACTORS TO DO THE WORK, PLUS JUST REGULAR SUPPLY ISSUES RIGHT NOW, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GET PEOPLE BACK INTO THE UNITS IN 60 DAYS. THAT'S WHERE MY CONCERN WOULD BE. AND YOU KNOW, WHAT I WOULD LIKE, LIKE TO SEE US AS WE ARE LOOKING OVER THIS NEXT MONTH, WHAT DOES THE COUNTY GONNA DO? AND WITH SAME TIME US KNOWING WHAT IS HAPPENING WITHIN OUR CITY, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO ABOUT WHAT'S, WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE REST OF THE COUNTY, BUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN OUR CITY, ARE THESE UNITS BEING BROUGHT BACK ONLINE OR ARE THEY STILL NEEDING ANOTHER 30 DAYS, YOU KNOW, 15 DAYS, 45 DAYS, 60 DAYS, WHATEVER, TO GET UNITS BACK ONLINE SO PEOPLE CAN GET IN THERE AND INTO THEIR UNITS AND BE PROTECTED DURING THAT TIME THAT THEY'RE, THAT, UH, THAT THAT IS GOING. I, THAT'S WHAT I THINK WE NEED THE TIMELINE ON. AND WE CAN ALWAYS CALL A SPECIAL MEETING AND HAVE AN URGENCY ORDINANCE TO EXTEND, TO EXTEND THE ORDINANCE OURSELVES IF THE COUNTY DOES NOT SEE FIT TO DO THAT. BUT I THINK TO PUSH FORWARD RIGHT NOW, UM, I THINK WITHIN THE VACUUM OF WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH AND NOT BEING, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE CAUGHT UP IN, AS YOU SAY, KIND OF WHAT HAPPENED AT THE MOMENT, AND REALIZING THE URGENCY THAT HAPPENED WITH EVERYTHING ELSE AND ACTING UPON THAT, I THINK IS, GIVES US A GREATER OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT. UM, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT OUR TENANTS ARE PROTECTED. MM-HMM, . SO I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE, YOU GUYS GONNA HAVE TO HAVE SOME REAL OBSERVATIONS THIS MONTH IN PARTICULAR TO MAKE SURE IF THE COUNTY IS NOT GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AN EXTENSION, DO WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AN EXTENSION? AND WE CAN DO THAT IN A VERY QUICK PERIOD OF TIME, MR. CHAIRMAN, TO HANDLE THIS AS AN EMERGENCY ITEM AND NOT TRYING TO SOLVE, NOT TRYING TO SOLVE, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, THE SITUATION OVER A LIFETIME IN A MOMENT. MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST, UM, I JUST HAVE A A POINT OF CLARIFICATION TO STAFF, UM, WHEN THEY DO TENANT IMPROVEMENT OR IMPROVEMENT IN THEIR OWN HOMES, AND IT, IT HAS TO DO WITH PLUMBING AND ELECTRICITY, DON'T THEY PULL PERMIT? SO WE WOULD KNOW WHEN THESE HOMES ARE GONNA BE AVAILABLE TO [02:50:01] THOSE PREVIOUS, TO THOSE EXISTING TENANTS, CORRECT? MR. MR. CITY MANAGER? WELL, WE CERTAINLY WOULD KNOW WHAT THE REPAIRS ARE GONNA BE, WE, WHAT THEIR INTENT IS GONNA BE BY THE PERMIT, HOW LONG IT'S GONNA TAKE 'EM TO, TO, TO AFFECT THOSE REPAIRS. YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE BEYOND OUR CONTROL. BUT, UH, WE, WE, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANY PERMITS. AND SO, YOU KNOW, IT, AND IT COULD VERY WELL BE TO WHAT YOU JUST POINTED OUT, MAYOR, THE LACK OF AVAILABLE CONTRACTORS, BECAUSE THIS IS NOT JUST NATIONAL CITY EXCLUSIVE, THIS IS COUNTYWIDE, AND THERE'S, THERE'S NOT THAT MANY PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT'S OUT THERE PRESENTLY, YOU KNOW, JUST NORMALLY TO, TO COME IN AND IN EFFECT THESE REPAIRS. PLUS THEY'RE DEALING WITH INSURANCE COMPANIES MM-HMM. , AND THERE'S A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH, AND THERE'S GONNA BE BIDDING. SO, UM, AND THEN ALSO SOME OF THE REPAIRS ARE NOT REALLY SUBJECT TO BUILDING PERMIT, RIGHT? SO IF YOU'RE JUST DEALING WITH FLOORING AND SOME MISCELLANEOUS LIKE THAT, WE WOULDN'T COLLECT A, A, A PERMIT FOR IT. WE WOULDN'T PERFORM AN INSPECTION THAT WOULD BE ENTIRELY, UH, LIKE A MAINTENANCE FEATURE FOR THE, UH, THE BUILDING OWNER. MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST A FOLLOW UP QUESTION TO OUR, UM, POLI, I MEAN, FIRE CHIEF, UM, WE RED TAG THEM. CORRECT? SO WHEN WE RED TAG THEM, DO WE GO BACK THERE TO UNREAD TAG THEM UNREAD? YEAH. BETTER ANSWER PROBABLY BY HERSELF. STEP BACK IS MICROPHONE MR. HADLEY? THERE YOU GO. NOT ENOUGH PRESSURE. THE, I I CAN SPEAK TO THAT. THE, YES, WHEN THERE WERE TAGGED AS UNSAFE TO OCCUPY THE, THE, THE TAG SHOULD REMAIN UNTIL SUCH TIME AS THE REPAIRS HAVE BEEN MADE, WHATEVER THOSE MAY BE. AND SO THE THING IS, IS THAT IT, IT, THEY, IT WON'T BE REMOVED UNTIL SUCH TIME AS THEY PER, THEY OBTAIN PERMITS IF PER PERMITS ARE NECESSARY. AND IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, AND WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY, THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE A PERMIT JUST DEALING WITH THE ELECTRICAL LOAN. OKAY. SO, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS IS THAT IT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT AGGRESSIVE ON OUR PART TO GO OUT AND ASK THEM WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND WHAT THE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEIR INTENT IS. BUT AT THAT TIME'S GONNA COME WHERE WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT THE PROPERTY AND, AND, YOU KNOW, ASK THEM WHAT THEIR TIMELINE IS AND WHERE THEIR, WHAT THE, WHAT THE STATUS IS. BUT NO, THE, THE UNSAFE TO OCCUPY WON'T CHANGE JUST BECAUSE THE, YOU KNOW, THE WEATHER CHANGED, SO THOSE UNITS WERE IMPACTED, THE ELECTRICAL SYSTEMS WERE IMPACTED, AND, YOU KNOW, NOT, NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT ELSE. SO, MM-HMM. . SO ANOTHER QUESTION, MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST LAST FOLLOW THROUGH, MR. CITY MANAGER, HAVE WE HAD A CHANCE TO VISIT THAT LOCATION WHERE 80 FAMILIES WERE REALLY IMPACTED BY THIS? BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD DO ALSO TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE LANDLORDS ARE RESPONSIBLE ENOUGH TO THEIR TENANTS. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE, BECAUSE OUR DEPUTY CITY MANAGER SAID THERE WAS NO, UM, PERMITS THAT WERE PULLED IF IT'S, IF IT'S, UH, IMPACTING ELECTRICITY AND, AND PLUMBING AND WATER, I KNOW AS A REAL ESTATE, I HAVE TO PULL PERMIT. YEAH. NO PERMITS HAVE BEEN PULLED. UM, AND WE'LL CON BE WE'LL CONTINUE TO STAY IN TOUCH, UH, AS BEST AS WE CAN FOR, WITH THE 80 HOUSEHOLDS. MM-HMM. . YEAH. AND SEE, UM, SO THAT, THAT'LL HOPEFULLY WE'LL START TO SEE SOME ACTIVITY THIS MONTH IN THAT REGARD. THANK YOU, MAYOR. OKAY. NOW, YOU KNOW, AND I AGREE. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE PULL PERMITS OR WHATEVER, OR THEY GET RED TAGGED AND WE WAIT, WE WAIT FOR THEM TO CONTACT US ABOUT WHAT THEIR NEXT STEP IS. AND EVERYTHING ELSE. THIS IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE WE ARE DEALING WITH EMERGENCY ORDINANCE, UM, WE'RE DEALING WITH, YOU KNOW, UH, A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE AFFECTED. AND I THINK THIS IS ONE TIME WHEN WE DO NEED TO BE PROACTIVE AND SAYING, WHERE ARE YOU AT? WHAT ARE YOU DOING? BECAUSE OTHERWISE, IN MY OPINION, EITHER WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BLINDLY PUT TOGETHER AN ORDINANCE BECAUSE WE JUST NEED ONE, OR WE'RE GONNA NEED TO MOVE VERY QUICKLY BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA FIND OUT AT THE LAST MINUTE THERE'S A NEED FOR ONE. AND THE COUNTY'S NOT NOT MOVING AHEAD WITH ONE, YOU KNOW, ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. WE NEED, WE NEED TO HAVE SOME INFORMATION IN FRONT OF US. SO I THINK IT'S GONNA TAKE SOME PROACTIVITY THAT IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT IS THE NORMAL CIRCUMSTANCE BECAUSE OF THESE, THESE ARE EXTRAORDINARY [02:55:01] CIRCUMSTANCES. UM, YOU, YOU, YOU'RE ENTIRELY CORRECT. THIS IS, THIS IS A DISASTER AS COMPARED TO A SUBSTANDARD PROPERTY. CORRECT. AND, AND SO IF WE HAD A SUBSTANDARD PROPERTY AND WE WENT THROUGH THE MOTIONS THERE TO, TO INVESTIGATE THE PROPERTY, INSPECTED AND DEFICIENCIES AND, AND THAT MAKE IT SUBSTANDARD, THEN WE WOULD, SO POST THE PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, OR NOTICE THE PROPERTY OWNER, THE NOTE OF, OF THE VIOLATIONS AND GIVE THEM A TIMELINE. BECAUSE BASICALLY WE'RE STARTING AN ENFORCEMENT ACTION, GIVEN THAT THE FACT THAT IT'S AT A DISASTER, THE, THERE'S A DIFFERENT SENSITIVITY. OKAY? SO THE THING IS, IS THAT IN, IN, AND WHEN, WHEN YOU TAG DURING THE DISASTER AND, AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S MULTIPLE WAYS TO GO ABOUT TAGGING DURING DUR DISASTER ON A LARGER SCALE, YOU'D USE A DIFFERENT TAGGING SYSTEM. AND IF YOU WENT TO THAT LARGER SCALE, SAY THE SEISMIC EVENT, WHICH IS KIND OF A, YOU KNOW, A RED GREEN YELLOW TAG TYPE SIT, THERE'S NO COMPULSION, NO TIMELINE TO AFFECT THOSE REPAIRS. THOSE ARE ONLY FOR IMMEDIATE LIFE, YOU KNOW, FOR SAFETY TAGS, FOR SAFETY OF OCCUPANCY OF THE BUILDINGS. TO, TO GET BACK TO THE, TO THE POINT THERE WITH, WITH THIS PARTICULAR, UH, SITUATION, THERE'S ADEQUATE TIMES PASSED TO ASK THE QUESTION OF WHAT'S THE STATUS WITH YOU PROPERTY OWNER? AND WE CAN EASILY DO THAT. WE CAN EASILY, YOU KNOW, DO THAT. BUT WE, WE'VE GRANTED THEM THAT THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO GET SETTLED MM-HMM. , UH, AND THEN DO SOME RESEARCH. AND SO I, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT GONNA BE UNREASONABLE FOR US TO, TO AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, TO ASK THE QUESTION. AND WE CERTAINLY, WE COULD CERTAINLY CAN DO THAT WITH, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES. AND, UH, YEAH, BECAUSE I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE, WE, WE, WELL, WE, I DON'T THINK I KNOW WE NEED TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION, UH, BECAUSE AS SAY, IF, YOU KNOW, ONE WAY WE COULD GO THROUGH AND START PUTTING TOGETHER AN ORDINANCE AND IT'S GONNA TAKE TIME OR IT'S GONNA BE SLOPPY. UH, THE OTHER THING IS RIGHT NOW WE ARE LOOKING AT A DEADLINE WITHIN A FEW WEEKS OF THE CURRENT ORDINANCE THAT'S PROTECTING A LOT OF PEOPLE GOING AWAY, POSSIBLY GOING AWAY. WE NEED TO KNOW IF WE NEED TO ACT UPON THAT NOW WE CAN ACT QUICKLY UPON IT, EVEN IF IT IS JUST CONTINUE THAT EXACT SAME ORDINANCE. SO, I MEAN, IT DOESN'T TAKE A, A BIG CRAFTING, YOU KNOW, THAT'S BETTER THAN NOTHING. BUT WE NEED TO HAVE SOME INFORMATION SO THAT WE'RE MAKING AN INTELLIGENT DECISION TO DO THAT. AND NOT JUST DOING IT OUT OF, YOU KNOW, JUST KNEE JERK, UH, TYPE SITUATION. UM, AND AS, SAY, IF IT'S TRULY NEEDED, THEN I, I SAY WE CALL A SPECIAL MEETING, WE DO IT. UM, YOU KNOW, AND THEN WE CAN LOOK AT THIS THING AT A, AT A MUCH MORE HOLISTIC MANNER TO SEE HOW DO WE DEAL WITH, HOW DO WE DEAL WITH AN EARTHQUAKE? HOW DO WE DEAL? YOU KNOW, EVEN WITH ALL THOSE THINGS. WHAT, WHAT WOULD BE PROTECTIONS? WHAT COULD BE PROTECTIONS? YOU KNOW? I MEAN, BECAUSE THE SAME THING IF, IF WE TRIED TO PUT THIS SAME THING OVER TO A LARGE, SOMETHING, A REALLY LARGE SCALE AND SAY, HEAVEN FORBID, 7.2 EARTHQUAKE OR SOMETHING, UH, WE COULDN'T SAY THEY HAVE TO RELOCATE HIM TO SOMEPLACE ELSE. 'CAUSE THERE'D BE NO PLACE TO RELOCATE. WE'D BE HAVING TENTS OUT HERE IN KIMBALL PARK, PROBABLY. UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST, THAT'S THE REALITY. UH, SO, YOU KNOW, WE, SO WE NEED TO KIND OF THINK THAT THING THROUGH. JUST ADD ONE, ONE MORE LAYER TO THIS IS THAT THE FACT RIGHT NOW IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE, VOLUNTARY REPAIR. MM-HMM. , UH, AND THERE'S NO, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW THERE'S NO TIMELINE ON IT. SO WE CAN'T, AT THIS POINT, REALLY C WE COULD TO, TO COMPEL 'EM TO REPAIR. WOULD, WOULD IT EVOLVE INTO A DIFFERENT LEVEL OF ENFORCEMENT? RIGHT. AND, AND, AND WE'RE NOT GO TO COMPEL 'EM ON OR TO TRY TO ENFORCE OR DO IT. WE JUST NEED TO KNOW THE INFORMATION. MM-HMM. , BECAUSE I, IT'S NOT IN ANYBODY'S INTEREST THAT IS OF ANY REAL LARGE SCALE, IF THEY HAVE VERY MANY APARTMENTS OR UNITS OR WHATEVER ELSE TO HAVE 'EM SIT IN THERE VACANT. YEAH. IT IS NOT IN THEIR INTEREST AT ALL. BUT IT MAY BE BEYOND THEIR, THEIR LIMITATIONS TO BE ABLE TO GET THE MATERIAL, THE WORK, THE INSURANCE COMPANY, COOPERATION, ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT GO INTO THIS TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO KNOW. AND, AND MAYOR, IF I CAN STEP IN THAT, THAT UNKNOWN TIMELINE IS NECESSARILY NOT A BENEFIT TO A TENANT THAT'S WAITING FOR THE UNIT BECAUSE THEY NEED A PLACE TO LIVE IN THE INTERN. ABSOLUTELY. SO IT BEHOOVES THEM TO FIND ANOTHER PLACE TO LIVE IN THAT'S AVAILABLE IN THE MARKET WHILE THAT OTHER UNIT BECOMES ONLINE, OR ELSE THEY CAN'T WAIT AN INDEFINITE AMOUNT OF TIME. AND I'D JUST LIKE TO SECOND THE FACT THAT SOMETIMES EVEN INSURANCE ADJUSTMENTS GO THREE, FOUR [03:00:01] MONTHS WHERE THERE'S DEBATE ABOUT EXACTLY THE EXTENT OF THE DAMAGE AND HOW MUCH THEY'RE GONNA BE REIMBURSED BEFORE THEY CAN EVEN APPROVE A CONTRACTOR TO GO AND DO THE WORK. ABSOLUTELY. SO THERE'S, THERE'S VERY LITTLE DEGREE TO SAY THAT THE, THE UNIT COULD BE DELIVERABLE WITHIN THREE OR FOUR MONTHS AND IS EXPECTED TO BE BACK TO THE FAMILY IN THAT TIME. AND WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT KIND OF TIMELINE, THEN IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE TENANT, YOU WANT THEM TO FIND OUT, FIND A RENTAL SITUATION THAT'S AVAILABLE IN THE, IN, IN, IN THE NEARER TERM TO, TO STABILIZE THEIR HOUSING SITUATION. YEAH. BUT, BUT WE KNOW IN A MARKET THAT HAS CLOSE TO ZERO VACANCY, THAT'S EVEN MORE DIFFICULT. YEAH. ALRIGHT. ALL RIGHT. WHAT OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, OR ACTIONS? SO, UH, CITY ATTORNEY KING, UH, SO I JUST WANNA BE, UM, JUST CLEAR AND PROCESS. I THINK WE'VE HAD ENOUGH DEBATE ON THIS. SO, UM, BUT I, I DON'T WANT TO GO THROUGH AMENDMENTS IF THERE'S NOT THE APPETITE, WHICH SOUNDS LIKE, LIKE, I, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW, UH, THE APPETITE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AN ORDINANCE. SO, UM, SO CAN I JUST MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AN ORDINANCE AND THEN A SECOND PART OF THAT MOTION BE ANY OF THE DETAILS IF WE SEE FIT? I'LL SECOND THE MOTION. THAT WOULD BE, COULD, COULD YOU EXPLAIN THE MO? SO, SO I, SO I DON'T WANT TO GO INTO, UM, THE DETAILS OF, UH, ANOTHER ROUND OF DEBATE ON THE DETAILS OF THIS. IF WE DON'T WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AN ORDINANCE. DO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? OKAY. SO THAT'S WHY I'M SUGGESTING MOVING FORWARD WITH, UM, AN ORDINANCE OF VOTE FOR ORDINANCE FIRST AND THEN THE, UM, THE, THE DETAILS OF FURTHER STAFF, STAFF DIRECTION LATER. THAT'S JUST A SUGGESTION OF MINE. I DON'T KNOW IF I, I STILL DON'T KNOW IF I UNDERSTAND THAT. I THINK, I THINK WHAT HE'S SAYING IS THERE'S A THRESHOLD QUESTION AS TO WHETHER THERE IS SUFFICIENT VOTES ON COUNCIL TO SUPPORT MOVING FORWARD WITH AN ORDINANCE. RIGHT. OKAY. AND SO HE WOULD LIKE TO PUT THAT THRESHOLD MOTION BEFORE COUNSEL, AND IF IT FAILS, THEN THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION. AND IF IT, IF IT PROCEEDS, THEN IT'LL BE A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT ARE THE SPECIFICS. MAYOR, I HAVE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION. OKAY. UH, I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE THAT WE HOLD ON THIS, ON ENACTING, UH, ANY CITY ORDINANCE. UH, THE INFORMATION AT HAND IS VERY USEFUL TO GET US TO ENACT A CITY ORDINANCE SHOULD IT BE NECESSARY. AT THIS POINT, I MAKE A MOTION TO HOLD ON MOVING FORWARD IN THAT DIRECTION, UM, IN HOPES OF GETTING MORE INFORMATION WHETHER THE COUNTY'S ORDINANCE WILL CONTINUE, UM, AS WELL AS, UH, DIRECTING STAFF TO REACH OUT TO LANDLORDS, UH, TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT LANDLORDS NEED IN ORDER TO REBUILD THEIR HOMES AND THE EXPECTATION TO HAVE NEW TENANTS COME IN. UM, WE JUST NEED MORE INFORMATION. UH, I DON'T THINK THAT IT, WE HAVE THE INFORMATION NECESSARY AT THIS TIME THAT WILL BE HELPFUL TO ALL PARTIES. THANK YOU. I WILL SECOND THAT, MA. OKAY. COULDN'T WE, COULD I ASK FOR THE MAKER THE MOTION THAT WE TRY TO BRING BACK INFORMATION ON THAT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AND CERTAINLY BEFORE THE END ENDING OF THIS, THE CURRENT MORATORIUM? YES. MR. CHAIRMAN, CAN WE PUT TIME SENSITIVE? YEAH, VERY TIME SENSITIVE. YEAH. DATE? OKAY. DATE, MR. CHAIRMAN? WELL, THE ONE THING IS WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT, WHAT WOULD BE THE ACTUAL DATE THAT THE MORATORIUM WOULD END ON? 27TH. THE 27TH. SO, SO HOW ABOUT THIS? HUH? COUNCIL MEETING, HUH? YEAH. HOW ABOUT WE ARE REQUESTING MORE INFORMATION AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, THE 19TH, REGARDING THE COUNTY'S ORDINANCE. UH, WHETHER THERE IS FRESH INFORMATION SUCH AS IT'S GOING TO BE EXTENDED, WE DON'T YET KNOW IF IT'S GONNA BE EXTENDED. AND THEN, UH, AT THAT MEETING ALSO PROVIDE A REPORT ON, UH, WHAT THE CITY'S UNDERSTANDING IS, UH, FOR READINESS, THE READINESS OF LANDLORDS, UH, REBUILDING AND SUCH. AND AS IT THEN WE CAN ALWAYS CALL FOR A SPECIAL MEETING AND HAVE AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE. UH, IF, YOU KNOW, IF WE NEED TO THEN BEFORE THE 27TH. OKAY, I WILL SECOND THAT. VERY LONG MOTION. OKAY. . ALRIGHT. SO I JUST HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION, MR. MAY? YES, PLEASE. UM, JUST TO CLARIFY, WE ARE DECIDING TO ONCE AGAIN PROLONG THIS FOR, TO SEE WHAT THE COUNTY DOES, BUT IT'S CLEAR THE COUNTY'S MORATORIUM WILL END AT THE END OF THE MONTH. WE HAVE ONE MORE MEETING BEFORE [03:05:01] THEN, AND WE HAVE NO ORDINANCE TO DISCUSS AT THE NEXT MEETING. MM-HMM. , THAT IS THE DIRECTION THAT THE MOTION, YES. I'M, I'M OF THE BELIEF THAT WE SHOULD ACT. I DON'T UNDERSTAND. HOW IS IT? I MEAN, IT, IT, IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE. YOU OUTLINED THE NEED TO CREATE, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS PROCESS IS EXPEDITED. HOW DIFFICULT IT IS FOR TENANTS TO ACTUALLY GET APARTMENTS TO LIVE IN THE VERY LOW VACANCY RATE. AND YET YOU WANNA JUST SIT AROUND AND WAIT. I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING, BUT, SO I WILL NOT BE VOTING IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION AS A RESULT. OKAY. UM, I THINK GOVERNMENTS SHOULD ACT IN TIMES OF CRISIS AND THIS IS A CRISIS. OKAY. AND, AND IF THE COUNTY DECIDES TO EXTEND THE ORDINANCE AND WE PUT ANOTHER ORDINANCE IN PLACE, THEN WE'VE CAUSED ANOTHER CRISIS. SO ANYWAY, WE DO HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. DO YOU GUYS PUSH BUTTONS ON THE MOTION? SECOND THERE. THERE WE GO. AND THERE WE HAVE A MOTION. AND A SECOND PLEASE VOTE. I MOTION. MOTION PASSES. PASSES. THREE TO TWO. OKAY. NEXT WE GO ON TO, YEP. UH, WELL THERE ANY OTHER STAFF REPORTS? I HAVE NONE. MAYOR. THANK YOU. AND YOU HAVE NONE EITHER. OKAY. WE HAVE TO OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS [13. ELECTED OFFICIALS REPORT] REPORT. WE'LL GO DOWN HERE. START MR. RODRIGUEZ. THANK YOU MR. UH, NOT MUCH OF A REPORT, JUST A COUPLE COMMENTS. SO, UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR VICE MAYOR IMANI FOR HAVING A DISTRICT THREE COMMUNITY EVENT A FEW WEEKS AGO. MM-HMM. . IT WAS A FANTASTIC EVENT, GREAT TURNOUT, GREAT INFORMATION PROVIDED. I DO HAVE TO MENTION THIS, UH, IT BECAME A BIT UNCIVIL AT TIMES, UM, BY A, UH, PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEMBER. I THINK IT WAS VERY UNFORTUNATE. AND, UH, I THINK THERE'S A WAY TO MOVE FORWARD AND ACTUALLY ADDRESS ISSUES. I'M GLAD THAT THIS WAS THE FIRST DISTRICT THREE COMMUNITY EVENT THAT HAD TAKEN PLACE IN WELL OVER A DECADE, WHICH IS, UM, VERY TIMELY. AND SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. I ALSO CONNECTED TO THAT. WANNA READ A, UM, UH, POST FROM, UH, A REPORT FROM AUGUST 9TH, 2023 THAT, UH, IT'S A-U-C-S-D STUDY, UM, THAT CLAIMS THREATS AGAINST PUBLIC OFFICIALS. UH, THE STUDY SAID THAT 75% OF ALL OFFICIALS HAVE EXPERIENCED THREATS OR HARASSMENT, WOMEN ARE IMPACTED. THE MOST. 61% OF WOMEN SAID THAT THEY'VE CONSIDERED LEAVING PUBLIC OFFICE COMPARED TO 31% OF MEN. CONNECTED TO THAT REPORT WAS A STATEMENT SAYING, THIS REPORT HURTS. LET'S BE CIVIL. IT'S BECOME SO DIFFICULT IN THIS DAY AND AGE. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE. SO TRULY OUR SYSTEM OF GOVERNMENT REQUIRES PUBLIC INPUT, BUT IT IS CRUCIAL IN THE DECISION MAKING. OUR WORDS ARE POWERFUL WHEN WE DON'T WASTE THEM. IT DEVASTATES ME THE MOST TO THINK THAT GOOD PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY WOMEN, WILL REJECT THE IDEA OF REPRESENTING THEIR COMMUNITY BECAUSE OF THIS TREATMENT AND HARASSMENT. WE MUST DO BETTER THAN THIS. THAT POST WAS BY COUNCIL MEMBER MOLINA BACK IN AUGUST 9TH, 2023. I HOPE THAT YOU PROVIDE YOUR MENTOR AND GOOD FRIEND, UM, MONA RIOS WITH THAT ADVICE SO THAT THAT DOESN'T OCCUR IN THE COMMUNITY. UM, AND WE ACTUALLY TRY TO WORK TOGETHER IN CONSTRUCTIVELY. NOW TO THE OTHER POINT THAT WAS MADE EARLIER BY ONE OF MY, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS, THIS HAS BEEN A KIND OF REOCCURRING THEME. UH, I THINK IT'S GOOD TO BE CLEAR AND SAY THAT OUR FAMILY, MY WIFE AND I ARE BUSINESS OWNERS. WHAT'S WRONG WITH THAT? WHAT IS WRONG WITH BEING BUSINESS OWNERS? NOTHING. THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT. AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE ACTUALLY GAVE AWARDS EARLIER TODAY FOR SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT? WE'RE LIKE LABELING THIS AS THOUGH IT'S SOMETHING ILLEGAL AND OR BAD. UM, YOU KNOW, ANYBODY THAT'S OPENED A BUSINESS REALIZES THAT YOU NEED TO OPEN IT UNDER AN LLC OR AN S CORP OR SOMETHING OF THE, LIKE, THAT'S NORMAL STUFF. THAT'S STANDARD OPERATION TO MAKE IT BELIEVE LIKE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS NEFARIOUS AND OR ILLEGAL IS, IS JUST RIDICULOUS. SO PLEASE JUST GET FACTS STRAIGHT. THAT SAME INDIVIDUAL LAST YEAR QUESTIONED ME AS ONE OF OUR BUSINESSES AND MADE PUBLIC STATEMENTS SAYING THAT, UH, ONE OF OUR BUSINESSES WAS TIED TO A CANNABIS LICENSE IN CHULA VISTA, AND IT WAS UP TO NEFARIOUS ACTIVITIES THAT WAS OCCURRING. FALSE. I THINK, YOU KNOW, IN THIS DAY AND AGE, FACTS MATTER. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT WHEN WE MAKE THOSE KIND OF STATES IN PUBLIC THAT WE ACTUALLY DO RESEARCH. I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO ANOTHER POINT. AND, UM, THE IRONY OF ALL THIS AND THE IRONY OF LIKE PROVIDING SMALL BUSINESS SUPPORT AND MAKING SURE THAT WE SUPPORT SMALL BUSINESSES, YOU KNOW, WHO CAME UP HERE A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, I THINK LIKE A MONTH AGO, TO ASK FOR SUPPORT FROM OUR CITY TO ACTUALLY HAVE PARKING PERMITS IN FRONT OF THEIR BUSINESS. MY WIFE, YOU KNOW, WHO SCRUTINIZED HEAVILY TO GET PARKING PERMITS, WHICH EVERY BUSINESS IS ENTITLED TO DO. AND WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE THAT TO OCCUR. THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER, THAT'S UNBECOMING. [03:10:01] GUYS. ARE WE SUPPORTIVE OF BUSINESSES OR NOT? OR ARE WE JUST NOT SUPPORTIVE OF BUSINESSES OF A SOMEBODY, SOMEBODY YOU DON'T LIKE TO WORK WITH? OR, OR A POLITICAL FOE. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU'RE SUPPORTING BUSINESSES THAT JUST MEAN YOU'RE PICKING AND CHOOSING AND BEING VERY SELECTIVE. SO I THINK WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT BUSINESSES AND NOT BE TALKING OUT OF BOTH SIDES OF OUR MOUTHS. THE OTHER POINT, UM, IT'S IRONIC THAT I KEEP FIGHTING FOR, YOU KNOW, TENANTS AND TENANT PROTECTIONS. UM, BUT I WILL CONTINUE TO, TO DO THAT. UM, I WILL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT SMALL BUSINESSES. IT'S BECAUSE OF THIS BACKGROUND OF MINE THAT I'M A BIG ADVOCATE FOR SMALL BUSINESS GROWTH AND SMALL BUSINESS SUPPORT. THERE'S NOTHING LIKE OWNERSHIP, INCLUDING HOME OWNERSHIP. THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH PEOPLE INVESTING THEIR ENTIRE WEALTH TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY BUILD GENERATIONAL WEALTH BY INVESTING IN A SECOND HOME, BY INVESTING IN APARTMENTS, BY INVESTING IN, THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT. BUT WHAT MAKES ME DIFFERENT, I WONDER WHAT IT IS. YOU KNOW, SOME OF US ARE LABELED DIFFERENT, RIGHT? FOLLOW THE RULES, DO EVERYTHING RIGHT, BUT SOMEHOW YOU'RE STILL DIFFERENT AND THAT'S NOT OKAY. BUT THAT'S THE CURRENT DAY AND AGE. SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN CONTINUING TO BREW COMMENTS THAT CONTINUE, GUYS. JUST, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GONNA SUPPORT SMALL BUSINESSES, SUPPORT SMALL BUSINESSES, IF WE'RE GONNA SUPPORT LANDLORDS, SUPPORT LANDLORDS, YOU KNOW, LET'S NOT BE SELECTIVE ON ISSUES, UM, JUST BASED ON SOME POLITICAL AFFILIATION OR, OR YOU KNOW, NOT LIKING SOMEBODY OUT IN THE COMMUNITY. SO, AND, AND, AND, AND THIS HAS NOT BEEN A NEW THING, YOU KNOW, DURING THE 2022 ELECTION CYCLE, WHICH WAS VERY HEATED. SOME OF YOU MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW, BUT YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY RECEIVED AN ANONYMOUS THREAT, ANONYMOUS COMPLAINT TO OUR CITY MANAGER, NEVER HAD A COMPLAINT TO OUR CITY MANAGER. BUT THIS WAS AN ANONYMOUS ONE, RIGHT? THAT OCCURRED SAYING THAT MY WIFE WAS ILLEGALLY OPERATING OUR GARAGE INSPECTORS CAME TO MY WIFE'S HOUSE. GUESS WHAT? THEY FOUND NOTHING. BUT THEY WERE HOPING THAT THERE WAS AN INVESTIGATION THAT WAS STARTED IN THE MIDST OF AN ELECTION CYCLE. SO IT'S IMPORTANT FOR ME TO PROVIDE CONTEXT IN ALL OF THIS BECAUSE SOME STUFF THAT IS JUST THROWN OUT THERE IS JUST BS. LET'S JUST SPEAK WITH THE TRUTH. LET'S NOT INTIMIDATE POLITICAL OPPONENTS OR ANYBODY YOU DON'T LIKE BY HAVING THE CITY THROWN AT THEM AND THROWN AT THEIR BUSINESS. THAT IS NOT THE PROPER USE OF RESOURCES OF OUR CITY. WE NEED TO SUPPORT OUR CITY. WE NEED TO SUPPORT OUR RESIDENTS. WE NEED TO SUPPORT OUR LANDLORDS. WE NEED TO SUPPORT OUR TENANTS. WE NEED TO SUPPORT OUR SMALL BUSINESSES, NOT JUST THREATEN THEM BECAUSE WE DON'T LIKE THEM. THAT'S NOT A GOOD ENOUGH REASON AND THAT'S NOT THE WAY GOVERNMENT WORKS. SO I IMPLORE SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT HAVE CLOSEST CONNECTIONS TO SOME OF THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT CONTINUE WITH THESE ACTIVITIES TO DO RIGHT BY OUR COMMUNITY. AND IF WE REALLY WANT TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES AND HELP PEOPLE OUT, AND MOST OF THE, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, EVENT THAT TOOK PLACE A COUPLE WEEKS AGO WAS ABOUT THE FLOOD. YOU KNOW, I IMPLORE SOME OF THOSE FOLKS TO COME OUT AND HELP PEOPLE, HELP PEOPLE SHOVEL DIRT. THEY NEED HELP WITH THAT. HELP PEOPLE FEED 'EM. THEY NEED HELP WITH THAT. BUT I DIDN'T SEE ANY OF THAT. ALL I HEARD WAS THROWING SOMEBODY UNDER THE BUS AND THEN PUTTING THAT OUT THERE ON FACEBOOK. THAT'S NOT GOOD GOVERNANCE. GUYS. I HATE TO SAY IT TO YOU. I KNOW THAT IT FEELS LIKE IT'S A GOOD LITTLE POLITICAL HIT. IT'S CHEAP, IT'S UNFORTUNATE, AND IT NEEDS TO BE CALLED OUT. SO I HAD ALL THOSE COMMENTS TO SAY I DIDN'T THINK I WAS GONNA MAKE 'EM UNTIL ABOUT AN HOUR AGO. BUT, UH, THANK YOU AGAIN, AGAIN, UH, VICE MAYOR YAMANI. I THINK IT WAS A FANTASTIC EVENT. WE NEED TO CONTINUE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MEMBER BUSH. I AGREE THAT IT WAS A GOOD EVENT. , IT WAS A GREAT EVENT. VICE MAYOR YAMANI. UH, ONE OF THE THINGS I APPRECIATED MOST ABOUT IT IS THAT IT WAS, I'VE NEVER SEEN A COMMUNITY EVENT IN THE STREETS. AND, UM, I THOUGHT IT WAS IN A, YOU KNOW, A CUL-DE-SAC. UM, SO IT WAS SAFE. I REALLY APPRECIATE CITY STAFF FOR, UH, BEING INNOVATIVE AND FOR, UH, PUTTING THAT, UH, UH, TOGETHER WITH ALL OF THE SAFETY PROTOCOLS. I, I THOUGHT THERE WAS GREAT TURNOUT FROM THE, UH, RESIDENTS. SO IT'S INSPIRATION FOR, FOR ME, I THINK I'M THE ONLY ONE LEFT THAT HASN'T PUT, UM, UH, ONE TOGETHER. SO, BUT THAT'S WHY, UM, I'VE BEEN IN, IN FULL DISCLOSURE, I'M, I'M NOT THE TECHNICAL REP FOR DISTRICT FOUR. I'M THE REP BECAUSE THOSE WAS ELECTED CITYWIDE FOR ALL THE DISTRICTS. BUT, UH, I DO AND WILL TAKE THE LEAD ON DISTRICT FOUR BECAUSE NUMBER ONE, I LIVE THERE, BUT NUMBER AND GREW UP THERE. BUT NUMBER TWO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE WANT, NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE RESIDENTS OF DISTRICT FOUR ALSO HAS THAT. BUT NOW THAT I'VE GOTTEN A CHANCE TO SEE ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES, UM, PUT ON THEIR, UH, THEIR DISTRICT COMMUNITY WORKSHOPS AND EVENTS, I REALLY, UM, LIKE, LIKE THAT MODEL OF JUST BEING OUT THERE IN THE COMMUNITY. SO, UM, THOUGHT THAT WAS REALLY GOOD. THANK YOU. MEMBER MOLINA. THANK YOU. WE HEARD EARLIER TODAY A LOT OF GOOD THINGS HAPPENING IN OUR CITY, AND I JUST [03:15:01] WANT TO REITERATE A FEW OF THOSE. UH, THEY'RE ALL HAPPENING ON THE SAME DAY. IT IS THIS SATURDAY, BUT I DO WANT TO INVITE THE COMMUNITY ONCE AGAIN. UM, THERE IS A CELEBRATION AT CASA DE SAUD FOR A MURAL DEDICATION. THIS IS HAPPENING ON THE WEST SIDE OF NATIONAL CITY. AND, UH, WE HEARD EARLIER TODAY FROM MR. DKI. VAL, UH, O OT NC FOUNDATION IS INVITING THE COMMUNITY TO CASA DE SAUD, UH, TO COMMEMORATE AN ARTIST, UM, ARTIST E EDDIE JUAREZ, WHO IS FROM NATIONAL CITY. AND I HAVE SEEN THE MURALS THAT ARE GOING TO BE DEDICATED. UM, AND, UH, EVENTUALLY THEY WILL BE INSTALLED AT CASA DELUTH FOR PUBLIC VIEWING. BUT, UH, THESE ARE HUGE MURALS. I THINK THERE'S AT LEAST FOUR OF THEM. AND THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL. THEY DEPICT, UM, UH, OUR CULTURE HERE IN NATIONAL CITY, SPECIFICALLY ON THE WEST SIDE. AND I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS EVENT. AGAIN, SATURDAY, THIS COMING SATURDAY, MARCH 9TH AT CASA DELUTH. AND THE, UM, DEDICATION ITSELF. I BELIEVE THE CEREMONY ITSELF WILL BEGIN AT 11:00 AM. UM, THE PROGRAM HERE SAYS, UH, FOOD WILL BE SERVED AT 1:00 PM SO, UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, MARIACHI, UH, THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE EVENT. SO COME AND, AND, AND PARTICIPATE IN THIS COMMUNITY EVENT. I THINK IT'S GONNA BE A VERY FUN ONE. WE ALSO HAVE OUR QUARTERLY BREAKFAST. THIS IS PUT FORTH BY OUR CITY STAFF. AND, UM, ONCE EVERY QUARTER, YOU KNOW, UH, INDIVIDUALS ARE WELCOME TO COME TO, UH, MLK, WHICH IS AT KIMBALL PARK. UM, MOST OF THE TIME THERE IS BREAKFAST. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S GONNA BE BREAKFAST SERVED AT THIS ONE, 10 O'CLOCK. SO HOPEFULLY YOU COME TO THE QUARTERLY BREAKFAST AT 10 O'CLOCK AND THEN GO TO CASA DE SUD AT 11. UM, AND THEN THE OTHER EVENT I'M EXCITED ABOUT, UM, WHICH I ONLY HEARD OF TODAY, AND IT'S BECAUSE OF A, A PUBLIC SPEAKER. UM, SHE MENTIONED SHE'S A ARCHITE ARCHITECTURE STUDENT. SHE MENTIONED SOMETHING THAT SOUNDS AMAZING TO ME, WHICH IS A TOUR OF THESE GREAT ARCHITECTURAL SITES HERE IN NATIONAL CITY. SO I'M GONNA LOOK MORE INTO THAT, BUT I THINK THAT ONE STARTS THE EARLIEST. SO I INVITE THE COMMUNITY TO ALL OF THESE FANTASTIC EVENTS. AND, UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION. HEY, MAYOR. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. ARE YOU SURE, MAYOR? OKAY. . UM, MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, HELP PROMOTE A, UH, ONE OF THE, UH, RESIDENTS IN, UH, IN, UH, DISTRICT THREE ABOUT, UH, MARCH 16TH, 2024, THE NATIONAL CITY COMMUNITY EVENT, FLOOD RECOVERY EFFORTS, UM, BY ADRIAN'S WAY NONPROFIT. UM, THEY WILL HAVE SHOES, CLOTHING, FOOD, AND OTHER ITEMS UNTIL SUPPLIES LAST. UM, COME OVER, HAVE SOME COFFEE, LOOK THROUGH SOME ITEMS, AND CHAT WITH OTHER COMMUNITY NEIGHBORS. UM, ALSO AFFECTED BY RECENT FLOOD DEVASTATION. UM, THIS WILL BE ON MARCH 16TH AT THE HEART REVOLUTION CHURCH ON, UH, 1920 SWEETWATER ROAD. UM, AND AS YOU KNOW, MIND, THE, UH, THE DIRECTOR HERE IS, UH, SHERRY GOGI, WHO HEADS THIS MM-HMM. NONPROFIT. THANK YOU. UM, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO READ ACROSS AMERICA, TO OUR YOUNGER GENERATION, TO OUR ELEMENTARY STUDENTS AT OLIVE WOOD. I WANTED TO THANK, UM, THAT SCHOOL FOR INVITING ME. I, UH, MET THE PRINCIPAL AND THE, THE TEACHERS. AND OF COURSE, MOST ESPECIALLY THE, THE STUDENTS, THE CLASS THAT I, THAT I READ TOO, UM, HAD CHOSEN THE COUNTRY PHILIPPINES. AND SO I, I TAUGHT THEM A AWARD THAT THEY CAN BRING HOME AND USE IN EVERY, IN THEIR EVERYDAY LIFE. AND THAT IS . UM, I WOULD THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, YOU, UH, UM, COMMAND OUR, UM, NATIONAL PD, NATIONAL CITY PD CHIEF FOR REACHING OUT AND, AND CREATING THAT, BUILDING THAT, UM, RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN, UM, OTHER AGENCIES. SO THEN WE HAVE MORE, UM, WE KNOW MORE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE DOING, SO THEN WE DON'T GET LEFT BEHIND. SO THANK YOU CHIEF FOR THAT EFFORT. THANK YOU. UM, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THE LCO THAT OUR COUNCIL MEMBER HAD, UM, HAD MENTIONED EARLIER. UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I SIT IN THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY. I HEAR ABOUT LAFCO WITH REGARDS TO, UH, WATER RATES. BUT I THINK THIS IS ANOTHER, UM, UM, UM, ITEM THAT I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, BE, UM, EDUCATED WITH. UM, AND THEN, UM, I THINK THAT'S IT FOR ME. OH, UM, LASTLY, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE OFFICE OF CITY MANAGER, THE STAFF, ALL OF YOU, THE CHIEFS, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THE DIRECTORS WHO WERE THERE AT THE, UH, THE DISTRICT THREE, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, MEETING. UM, IT WAS A, UH, GREAT EVENT. WE BRING INFORMATION TO OUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE SOMETIMES [03:20:01] THEY CANNOT COME HERE. UM, I UNDERSTAND THERE WAS, UH, THERE WAS A, UH, YOU KNOW, I'M AN UNCIVILIZED, UM, INDIVIDUAL, UM, WHO SAID THAT, UM, WE ARE NOT GETTING ANYTHING, UH, FROM THAT EAST SIDE, UH, FOR A DECADE, BUT GUESS WHAT? SHE LIVES THERE. AND SHE WAS OUR FORMER CONSTI, A FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER. SO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, SO I ASKED HER, IF YOU'RE MEETING ANYWAY, GIVE ME A CALL SO THEN I CAN HELP. BUT INSTEAD OF RESPONDING TO ME, SHE LEFT. SO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I WILL CONTINUE TO BRING INFORMATION TO THE DISTRICT THAT I, THAT PUT ME IN, IN THIS SEAT, AND I WILL NOT, AND I WILL ALWAYS, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, ASK FOR HELP FROM MY COLLEAGUES HERE ON THE DICE AND FROM THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND FROM ALL THE STAFF, BECAUSE THE STAFF ARE VERY, VERY WILLING TO GIVE THIS INFORMATION, TO PROVIDE THIS INFORMATION TO OUR CONSTITUENTS. BECAUSE THE MORE THEY KNOW, THE MORE THEY CAN HELP US TOO. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU. UM, YEAH, IT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT THE, UH, THE YOUNG LADY WHO CAME UP AND TALKED ABOUT THE ARCHITECTURAL TOUR FOR, FOR SATURDAY. I THINK THAT'S, UH, AN EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITY. WE USED TO HAVE THE HOME TOURS HERE IN NATIONAL CITY. UM, AND YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE 'EM, YOU NEVER HAVE 'EM THAT OFTEN BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T LIKE MASS AMOUNT OF PEOPLE TRAVELING THROUGH THEIR HOMES, ESPECIALLY THE OLDER, SOME OF THE OLDER HOMES AND, AND EVERYTHING THAT'S IN THEM. BUT, UH, THE ONE THAT WE DID ONE THAT THE SAN DIEGO UNION, WHEN PEOPLE ACTUALLY USED TO READ, READ A NEWSPAPER AND THE SUNDAY EDITION WAS NICE AND BIG HOME SECTION. THE FRONT PAGE OF IT WAS THE WELLINGTON ESTATE, WHICH IS THAT ONE THAT'S UP ON THE TOP OF THE HILL THERE, WHERE EIGHTH STREET AND PLAZA COME TOGETHER. IT'S THAT ONE UP ON THE TOP AND IT'S THIS PHENOMENAL ARCHITECTURAL, UH, WONDER THAT'S UP THERE. AND, UH, SO THEY DID A WHOLE STORY ON IT. AND IT WAS IN THE SAN DIEGO UNION COUNTYWIDE. SO WE WERE GONNA HAVE, BECAUSE THAT WAS GONNA BE PART OF THE HOME TOUR. AND SO WE WERE ANTICIPATING APPROXIMATELY 150 PEOPLE MAXIMUM. AND SO WE STARTED IT AT BRICK ROW AND WE WERE SELLING TICKETS TO PEOPLE, AND WE HAD THE MAPS AND EVERYTHING, AND THEY WOULD GO AROUND AND DO ALL THE, ALL THE HOMES, UH, THROUGHOUT NATIONAL CITY. WELL, AND I WAS TALKING TO EVERYONE IN LINE TRYING TO GIVE THEM, YOU KNOW, INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO GET TO THE DIFFERENT PLACES AND HOW TO READ THE MAPS. AND I GOTTA FIND OUT THAT ALMOST ALL THE PEOPLE THAT WERE THERE WERE FROM PEOPLE THAT WERE FROM NORTH OF THE INTERSTATE EIGHT, WHO HAD NEVER BEEN SOUTH OF INTERSTATE EIGHT. THEY DIDN'T THINK ANYTHING WAS DOWN HERE, BUT BECAUSE THAT ARTICLE, THEY KINDA WANTED TO COME DOWN HERE AND SEE IT. AND WE HAD TO STOP SALES AT 950 'CAUSE IT WAS JUST TOO MANY PEOPLE. AND, UH, SO THIS, THIS WEEK LOOKS LIKE A, YOU KNOW, A SMALL VERSION OF THAT, BUT, UH, UH, BUT HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET SOME WORD OUT ON THAT. AND, AND, UH, SO PEOPLE CAN SEE SOME OF THE THINGS ON HERE. UM, REAL QUICKLY, I MEAN, THERE WAS, UH, I KNOW WE MENTIONED A NUMBER OF THINGS UP HERE THIS EVENING. UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, MENTIONED ABOUT HOW WE SOMETIMES WILL LOOK AT AN ISSUE AND WE, WE WILL PUT OUR OPINIONS INTO IT AND WE WILL DISSECT EVERYTHING ELSE. THAT IS OUR JOB. AND IT SHOULD ALWAYS BE OUR JOB TO BE AS IMPARTIAL AND TO DISSECT THINGS AND TO TRY TO PUT 'EM BACK TOGETHER THEN AND SEE WHAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE. AND, UH, SO INDEED, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT BUSINESSES, WE DO, WE DO EXACTLY THAT TOO. BUT WHEN THERE'S A NEW TYPE BUSINESS, OR WE'RE LOOKING FOR THINGS THAT ARE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH BUSINESSES, A BUSINESS BEFORE, WE SHOULD TAKE A LOOK AT HOW, WHAT PRECEDENT DOES THIS SET AND THEN MAKE DECISIONS UPON THAT. AND IT NEVER SHOULD HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH PERSONALITIES, BECAUSE AS WAS MENTIONED, CONTEXT IS VERY IMPORTANT. SO WITH THAT, YOU CAN HIT ME WITH MY, WITH MAYOR. MAYOR. MAYOR. I JUST MAYOR. YES. I JUST WANT TO ANNOUNCE THAT. YES. THE BREAKFAST IS SATURDAY. ALRIGHT. DOORS OPEN AT NINE 30 AT MARTIN LUTHER KING BUILDING AND PRESENTATIONS START AT 10:00 AM AND BREAKFAST WILL BE SERVED. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND, AND JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY, UM, IS THE CITY PAYING FOR THE BREAKFAST? THAT WAS A JOKE, GUYS. YEAH, , I , I, I, I, I, I WAS GONNA ASK, BECAUSE THEY SAID AT THE, UH, UH, OVER FOR THE BUREAU THAT THERE WOULD BE FOOD SERVED. I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS FROZEN OR NOT. GUYS . SO ANYWAY, UH, SO WITH THAT, THAT WAS A JOKE TOO. UH, I ADDED HERE WITH THAT. WITH THAT, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FROM OUR CITY ATTORNEY SINCE THAT WAS ALREADY, UH, WE ALREADY REPORTED OUT A CLOSED SESSION. WE ARE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.