* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:05] GOOD EVENING, AND [1. CALL TO ORDER] WELCOME TO NATIONAL CITY'S COMMUNITY AND POLICE RELATIONS COMMISSION MEETING FOR AUGUST 20TH, 2026. THERE ARE MULTIPLE WAYS YOU CAN MAKE YOUR OPINIONS HEARD AND CONSIDERED BY THE CPRC. YOU CAN REGISTER TO SPEAK DURING A-C-P-R-C, UH, VIA ZOOM. SPEAKERS MUST REGISTER BY 4:00 PM THE DAY OF THE MEETING. PUBLIC COMMENTS OR TESTIMONY IS LIMITED TO UP TO THREE MINUTES. SPEAKERS WILL NOT BE SHOWN ON VIDEO. YOU CAN ALSO SUBMIT A WRITTEN COMMENT TO BE ENTERED INTO THE OFFICIAL MEETING RECORD BY EMAILING CPRC PUB. COMMENT@NATIONALCITYCA.GOV BEFORE 4:00 PM ON THE DAY OF THE MEETING, AND PROVIDE THE AGENDA ITEM OR STATE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT IN THE SUBJECT LINE IF THE TOPIC IS NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA. UM, I'D LIKE TO NOW CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER AT 6:02 PM UH, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE ROLL CALL. UH, NOW BEGIN THE AUGUST 20TH, 2026 CPRC MEETING. I'D LIKE TO REQUEST THAT THE COMMISSION CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLE WHEN WALTER SAYS YOUR NAME, PLEASE UNMUTE YOUR MICROPHONE AND SAY, PRESENT OR HERE. COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS PRESENT. COMMISSIONER C*****G SERRANO. PRESENT. COMMISSIONER ROSALES PRESENT. COMMISSIONER RICE PRESENT. COMMISSIONER BLACKWELL. HERE. COMMISSIONER MCCLURE. HERE. VICE-CHAIR ULKA HERE. AND CHAIR ORT PRESENT. MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE, THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG. I'D LIKE TO ASK COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS TO LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO BRING THIS 250TH YEAR OF AMERICAN LIBERTY READY. BEGIN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE OF UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH STANDS? NATION UNDERGONE INDIVISIBLE FOR LIBERTY. JUSTICE . THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS. MOVING TO [4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES – Regular Meeting of May 21, 2026 ] AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR, APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM THE REGULAR MEETING OF MAY 21ST, 2026. UM, FOLKS CAN TAKE A MOMENT TO GLANCE DOWN AND FLIP THROUGH THEM IF THEY NEED TO. UM, AND THEN ONCE THERE IS, UH, A MEMBER WHO WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THEM, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND DO SO. I'LL MAKE THE MOTION. THANK YOU. VICE CHAIRS ULKA. IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. THANK YOU. PLEASE VOTE ON THE MINUTES ON MAY 20. MEETING. CARRIED BY UNANIM VOTE WITH PHILLIPS ABSTAINING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM, MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE, PUBLIC COMMENT. UM, WALTER, HAVE WE RECEIVED ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? UH, WE DO NOT. AND THEN ON TO [6. APPROVAL OF EXCUSED ABSENCES ] AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX, UH, APPROVAL OF EXCUSED ABSENCES. SEEING EVERYONE ON THE DAAS, I'M ASSUMING THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION IS NO. CORRECT. ALRIGHT. UM, THEN [7. SB 707 TECHNOLOGY DISRUPTION POLICY – CITY COUNCIL POLICY #103 ] AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, SB 7 0 7, TECHNOLOGY DISRUPTION POLICY, CITY COUNCIL POLICY NUMBER 1 0 3. UM, WE NOW HAVE A PRESENTATION BY CITY CLERK SHELLY CHAPEL VIA ZOOM. SHELLY, THANKS SO MUCH FOR BEING WITH US. HI THERE. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. UH, FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW ME, I'M SHELLY CHAPEL, YOUR CITY CLERK, AND I WILL BE PRESENTING THIS EVENING ON, UM, A NEW LEGISLATION. IT'S SB 7 0 7. IT HAS TO DO WITH, UH, BASICALLY PUBLIC COMMENT AT PUBLIC MEETINGS. AND, UM, THE WAY WE ACCEPT PUBLIC COMMENT HAS CHANGED A LITTLE BIT. SO JUST AS IN YOUR INTRODUCTION, UH, YOU MENTIONED THAT THEY ARE REQUIRED TO FILL OUT SPEAKER SLIPS, WHICH THEY ARE NOT REQUIRED TO DO THAT ANYMORE AS OF JUNE, JULY 1ST. UM, AND THEN, UH, WE CAN ACCEPT PUBLIC COMMENT UP UNTIL A MOTION IS MADE ON AN ITEM. SO, UM, IF SOMEONE'S IN THE AUDIENCE AND THEY DECIDE THAT THEY WANNA MAKE A COMMENT ON AN ITEM BEFORE THE MOTION IS MADE, THEY CAN STAND UP AND SAY, I WANNA MAKE A, YOU KNOW, COMMENT. SO WE'LL GO THROUGH THIS, UH, THIS, UH, SLIDESHOW I HAVE. AND, UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, IF WE CAN HOLD THOSE TO THE END, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY. IT'S NOT TOO LONG. SO, , LET ME OPEN THIS UP FOR YOU AND SHARE. DO YOU SEE MY SLIDE DECK? YES. OKAY. [00:05:02] WE DO. I, SHELLY, I DON'T KNOW. IT'S NOT IN PRESENTATION MODE. WE CAN SEE IT IN SLIDE SORTER. OKAY. LET ME FIX THAT FOR YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT. IS THAT BETTER? NO, STILL THE SAME. SHALL NO, NO. OKAY. LET ME, LET ME DO THIS AGAIN IN, SORRY ABOUT THAT NOW. NOPE. DESKTOP, SHELLY. NOW WE HAVE THE, YOUR DESKTOP . OH MY GOODNESS. I'M SO SORRY. OKAY, LET ME JUST DO IT THIS WAY. I'LL TAKE IT OUT OF PRESENTATION MODE. DO YOU SEE THE PRESENTATION? BINGO. GOOD TO GO. THANK YOU SO MUCH, . OKAY. SO, UH, AS I MENTIONED, UH, THIS IS ON THE SB 7 0 7, UM, LEGISLATION, AND I WILL BE, LET ME SEE, HAVING SOME PROBLEMS WITH THIS. OKAY. UH, THIS AFTERNOON I AM PRESENTING AN OVERVIEW OF THE UPDATES ON THE CITY COUNT ON THE, UH, CITY'S PUBLIC COMMENT PROCEDURES TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH THE SENATE BILL, UH, 7 0 7 THAT WENT INTO EFFECT JANUARY ONE OF THIS YEAR. AND, UM, IT ACTUALLY HAD TO, UH, START ON JULY 1ST. SO WE HAD TO START TAKING EFFECT ON JULY 1ST. UH, THE LEGISLATION BUILDS UPON THE BROWN ACT AND FOCUSES ON IMPROVING PUBLIC ACCESS AND PARTICIPATION IN THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT MEETINGS. THE MOST SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN THE PUBLIC COMMENT MUST NOW BE TAKEN, UH, BEFORE AND DURING THE BOARD AND COMMISSION'S, UH, CONSIDERATION OF EACH ADD AGENDA, AGENDA ITEM. AND THAT INCLUDES, UH, GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT UNDER THE UPDATED PROCESS. THE MEETING WILL BEGIN WITH THE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ANY ITEMS, UH, NOT, NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA, THEN THE BOARD WILL PROCEED THROUGH THE AGENDA. AND EACH ITEM, UM, WILL INCLUDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE DELIBERATION. AS I HAD MENTIONED, THE TIME LIMITS WILL REMAIN IN PLACE AND WILL BE APPLIED CONSISTENTLY TO ALL SPEAKERS. UH, THE CHAIR RETAINS THE ABILITY TO ADJUST SPEAKING TIME BASED ON THE NUMBER OF SPEAKERS TO ENSURE ALL VOICES ARE HEARD. THE SECRETARY WILL MANAGE SPEAKER'S REQUESTS AND TIMING WHILE THE CHAIR WILL CONTINUE TO FACILITATE THE MEETING AND MAINTAIN ORDER. THESE UPDATES, IMPROVE TRANSPARENCY, ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH THE STATE LAW, AND CREATE A CLEARER PROCESS FOR THE PUBLIC. THE EFFECTS, UM, AS I MENTIONED THAT THIS HAS ON, IT'S ON ALL MEETINGS, ALL PUBLIC MEETINGS, UH, WITH THE LEGISLATIVE BODY AND THEIR BOARDS OR APPOINTMENTS, WHICH ARE ALL OF THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. SO WHY THIS MATTERS, IT STRENGTHENS THE, UM, PUBLIC TRUST IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT, ENSURES THAT ALL VOICES HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD, REDUCES ANY CONFUSION DURING THE MEETINGS. THIS ALIGNS THE, UH, CITY WITH PRACTICES UNDER CURRENT STATE LAW AND ALIGNS THROUGH WITH THE CITY COUNCIL POLICY NUMBER 1 0 3, THE DISRUPTION OF TELEPHONIC AND OR INTERNET SERVICE DURING PUBLIC MEETINGS. THE SPECIFIC SECTION IS, UH, RESPONSE TO TECHNOLOGY DISRUPTIONS. AND, UM, WE CAN GO INTO THAT A LITTLE FURTHER, UH, IN THE SLIDES. KEY CHANGES, UH, THIS APPLIES TO, UM, ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA. UH, [00:10:01] AS I MENTIONED, IT'S TYPICALLY LIMITED TO TWO TO THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER. OOPS. SORRY ABOUT THAT. OH, AND, UM, THE, UM, THE PUBLIC MUST BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE COMMENT. UM, LET'S SEE. THE SPEAKER'S PROCEDURES, UH, IN PERSON SO COMPLETE, WE CAN'T, WE HAVE CHANGED THE, UH, SPEAKERS SLIPS THAT ARE, UM, CURRENTLY BEING USED IN THE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS. WE'VE CHANGED THEM TO STATE THAT THEY'RE A REQUEST TO ENTER A QUEUE, AND THAT'S REALLY JUST FOR THE CLERK AND THE, UM, MEETING SECRETARIES TO HAVE AN IDEA OF HOW MANY SPEAKERS THERE ARE. BUT THEY DO NOT, THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO FILL THOSE OUT. AND, UM, SO WE CAN CHANGE YOUR SPEAKER SLIPS TO, TO MATCH THAT, IF THAT WOULD HELP YOUR, YOUR, UH, SECRETARY. UM, THEY ARE CALLED IN THE ORDER RECEIVED. AND THEN, UH, THE SPEAKER WILL STILL APPROACH THE PODIUM WHEN RECOGNIZED. AND THEN IF A REQUEST WAS NOT SUBMITTED, THEY, UM, THEY STAND BY, UH, THE PODIUM AND THEN ADDRESS THE, THE BOARD AFTER ALL THE REST OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS MADE. UM, IF IT'S VIA ZOOM, IT'S PRETTY MUCH THE SAME WAY. UM, THEY'RE CALLED IN ORDER. YOU WOULD, UH, RESPOND TO A VIRTUAL HAND THAT'S RAISED AND THE CAMERAS WILL REMAIN OFF AS USUAL. SO MANAGING A LARGE, UH, ATTENDANCE, SAY YOU HAVE A REALLY, UH, CONTENTIOUS ITEM, AND, UM, YOU HAVE A LOT OF SPEAKERS, YOU MAY BE ABLE TO, UH, HELP WITH THAT BY, UH, REDUCING THE SPEAKING TIME. YOU CAN ALSO, UH, ADD, HAVE ADDITIONAL OVERFLOW SPEAKING OPPORTUNITIES WHERE MAYBE, UM, THEY CAN COME TOGETHER IN A GROUP AND HAVE A SPEAKER FOR, UM, FOR A GROUP OF LIKE 10 PEOPLE, YOU HAVE JUST ONE PERSON SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THAT TEAM OR THAT GROUP. AND THAT WILL, UM, MANAGE YOUR SPEAKERS A LITTLE BIT. DECOR IN THE MEETING ORDER, UH, ADDRESS, THE SPEAKERS MUST ADDRESS THE COUNCIL OF THEIR BOARD AS A WHOLE, NOT TURN AROUND TO THE AUDIENCE, UM, THE, THE, UH, TO AVOID DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR. THE, UH, CHAIR OR THE AUTHORITY WILL MAINTAIN ORDER, RECOGNIZE THE SPEAKERS, ENFORCE TIME LIMITS, ENSURE FAIR AND EQUAL PARTICIPATION, PROVIDE WARNINGS REGARDING DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR, AND THEN ASK FOR THE REMOVAL OF THE SPEAKER IF THE BEHAVIOR CONTINUES. I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU REALLY HAVE THAT AT YOUR MEETINGS, BUT WE DO AT THE COUNCIL MEETINGS SOMETIMES. SO, UM, AND IT JUST ENSURES A RESPECTFUL ENVIRONMENT FOR EVERYONE. THE ROLE OF THE, UH, SECRETARY, UH, FOR THE BOARD IS TO FACILITATE THOSE SPEAKER'S QUEUES TO TRACK THE TIME OF THE SPEAKER ORDER, ENSURE THE COMPLIANCE WITH SB 7 0 7 MAINTAIN ACCURATE MEETING ORDER MEETING RECORDS. AND THEN THEY ARE ALSO THE PARLIAMENTARIAN OF THE MEETING. AND, UH, THEY WORK CLOSELY WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY TO ENSURE THE COMPLIANCE OF THE BROWN ACT. WHAT HAS NOT CHANGED IS, UH, THE BOARD CAN RESPOND TO NON-AGENDA ITEMS. SO UNDER GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, WHEN, UH, YOU HAVE, UM, THE PUBLIC COME UP AND THEY MAKE COMMENTS, THE BOARD IS NOT SUPPOSED TO RESPOND TO THOSE. YOU JUST ACCEPT THEM AND THEN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM. THE TIME LIMITS ARE STILL PERMITTED. THE DECORUM RULES REMAIN IN PLACE, AS I MENTIONED. AND THEN PUBLIC COMMENT IS STILL, UH, REQUIRED OR ACCEPTED, UH, IMPLEMENTATION FOR NATIONAL CITY. UH, THIS, AS I MENTIONED, WAS EFFECTIVE JULY 1ST. UH, THIS DOES AFFECT EVERYONE THAT HAS TO DO WITH ANY OF THE PUBLIC MEETINGS. AND WE ARE WORKING ON, UM, PUBLIC EDUCATION AND OUTREACH. I AM ATTENDING ALL OF THE BOARDS AND COMMISSION MEETINGS AND EXPLAINING THIS TO THE BOARD AND ANY GENERAL PUBLIC THAT ARE IN ATTENDANCE. AND THEN WE WILL, UM, ALSO PROVIDE SOME MORE GENERAL EDUCATION TO, UH, THE PUBLIC IN THE FUTURE. [00:15:02] THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF AN AGENDA FORMAT, WHICH YOU FOLLOW. SO I DON'T NEED TO GO OVER THAT. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE ONE QUESTION. UM, SO FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ABLE TO MAKE COMMENTS UP UNTIL A MOTION IS MADE, CORRECT, BUT DOES THE COMMISSION HAVE TO GIVE ANY ADVANCE NOTICE THAT SOMEBODY'S ABOUT TO MAKE A MOTION? OR IS THE PERSON JUST OUT OF LUCK? LIKE, IF I, EVERYBODY'S GONE AND THEN I SAY MOTION, AND THE PERSON WAS ABOUT TO LIKE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO LIKE, AS LONG AS I SAY MOTION, I'M MAKING A MOTION THAT THAT CUTS IT RIGHT. IT DOES. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE DO WANT TO BE COURTEOUS TO THE PUBLIC, AND IF YOU SEE SOMEBODY MAKING AN EFFORT TO STAND, AND OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T WANT CUT 'EM OFF. UH, SO WE DO WANNA BE COURTEOUS TO PEOPLE, BUT IF, IF YOU SEE THAT THERE'S, THERE'S NO ONE AVAILABLE TO MAKE A COMMENT, OR NO ONE'S MAKING A MOVE TO MAKE A COMMENT, MAKE, OR YOU HAVE FIVE PEOPLE AND THEY'VE ALL MADE A COMMENT ALREADY, THEN THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT. GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. OKAY. YOU ARE WELCOME. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. UM, DO WE NEED TO, OH, SORRY, ONE SEC. UH, YES. IS THERE A QUESTION OR COMMENT FROM THE PUBLIC? BELIEVE WE'RE ALLOWED TO INVITE PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM? SORRY, OF COURSE. I THOUGHT I WOULD PRACTICE THIS NEW METHOD, BUT ALSO, UM, I DO HAVE A GENUINE QUESTION. HI, SHELLY. UM, HI JOAN. THIS IS JOAN. UM, FOLLOWING UP A LITTLE BIT ON JAKE'S QUESTION, I, THE ONE PART I THINK THIS IS INTERESTING, AND THIS IS THE FIRST I'VE HEARD OF IT. THE ONE PART I'M NOT CLEAR ON IS, IS THIS, LET ME KIND OF SET UP A HYPOTHETICAL AND MM-HMM . THEN WE CAN ANSWER IT. LET'S SUPPOSE THERE'S A AGENDA ITEM AND THE CLERK HAS RECEIVED SEVERAL SPEAKER SLIPS BY PEOPLE WHO CHOSE TO FILL THOSE OUT. SO FIRST QUESTION I HAVE IS, DID YOU SAY THAT THE CLERK WILL BE DECIDING THE ORDER OF THE SPEAKERS AS DISTINGUISHED FROM THE CHAIR? YES. SO FOR EXAMPLE, COUNCIL MEETINGS, SINCE YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE COUNCIL MEETINGS, IT USED TO BE, UM, THE MAYOR WOULD RECEIVE THE, THE SPEAKER SLIPS FROM THE CLERK. WE WOULD TAKE THEM UP THERE AND HE WOULD HAVE THEM ALL IN FRONT OF HIM. THAT, THAT NO LONGER IS THE CASE. THE CLERK HOLDS ONTO ALL OF THE SPEAKER SLIPS AND, UH, COLLECTS THEM IN ORDER FACE DOWN. THEY JUST GET PILED ON TOP OF EACH OTHER AS WE RECEIVE THEM. AND THAT WAY, UH, WHEN WE CALL, WE FLIP IT UPSIDE DOWN AND IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S IN THE ORDER THAT THEY WERE RECEIVED. OKAY. SO LET'S SUPPOSE IT'S VERY ARTICLE. SO LET'S SUPPOSE THE CHAIR, THE, THE CHAIR HAS GONE THROUGH ALL OF THOSE SPEAKER SLIPS. ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN, AND THEN THERE'S INFORMATION AND DISCUSSION AMONG THE COUNSELOR IN THIS CASE, THIS BOARD. AND THEN AS THEY'RE INTO THE DISCUSSION AND NO ONE HAS MADE ANY MOTIONS, A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC DECIDES, MY GOODNESS, I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING AS A LOGISTICAL MATTER. CAN YOU PLEASE DESCRIBE SPECIFICALLY WHAT THAT PERSON SHOULD DO, UH, IN ORDER TO, IN AN ORDERLY WAY, GET RECOGNIZED TO COME SPEAK? IN OTHER WORDS, SHOULD THEY STAND SOMEWHERE? SHOULD THEY WAVE THEIR HAND? SHOULD THEY GO TO THE CLERK? WHAT SHOULD THEY DO? SO WHAT I'LL SUGGEST, JOAN, IS SAY FOR EXAMPLE, IN A COUNCIL MEETING, AGAIN, UM, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE PERSON COME AND STAND RIGHT THERE, UM, CLOSE TO THE PODIUM SO THAT THEY'RE RECOGNIZED BY THE MAYOR OR THE, THE CHAIR MM-HMM . AND THAT THEY CAN BE ASKED TO STEP UP TO THE PODIUM THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD KEEP IT FROM, YOU KNOW, DISRUPTING ANY CONVERSATION, BUT YOU ARE BEING RECOGNIZED, YOU'RE THERE IN THE FRONT. SO IF WE USED A COURTROOM PARALLEL, RIGHT NOW, I'M AT THE MICROPHONE, BUT WE MIGHT HAVE A SITUATION WHERE THERE'S CONSULTANTS OR OTHER PEOPLE RIGHT. THAT ARE CONVERSING WITH THE COUNCIL. SO IF WE REFER TO IT AS STAYING BEHIND THE BAR, LIKE IF I WERE TO STEP BACK HERE WHERE THE POLICE, YES, THERE'S AN IMAGINARY ROAD. OKAY. SO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND, AND THEN ANYTHING ELSE ALONG THE LINES OF WHAT'S A GOOD LOGISTICAL WAY TO KEEP IT ORDERLY AND YET HAVE PEOPLE BE ABLE TO FOLLOW THIS RULE WITHOUT DISRUPTING ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS? I DON'T, UM, ATTORNEY SKINNER, DO YOU HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS OTHER THAN THEM JUST LAYING UP THERE AND JUST QUIETLY WAITING FOR TO BE RECOGNIZED? [00:20:01] UM, TYPICALLY, YES. THERE'S SOME PLACES DO IT WHERE THEY ACTUALLY HAVE, THEY CALL UP SPEAKERS THREE AT A TIME AND BASICALLY HAVE THEM STAND 1, 2, 3, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WHATEVER IT TAKES TO BE RECOGNIZED BEFORE THE MOTION IS STARTED. BUT I THINK, UM, WHAT JOAN IS ASKING THOUGH IS IF THEY HAVE NOT SUBMITTED A SLIP AND THEY HAVE NOT BEEN RECOGNIZED AS A SPEAKER, BUT THEY DO WANNA COME UP AND SPEAK, SHE CAN COME UP AND STAND AT THE YES. THAT IMAGINARY ROPE RIGHT THERE. YES. AND, AND WAIT TO BE RECOGNIZED. CORRECT. YES. AND JOAN, THAT CAN BE, UM, STANDING UP EVEN IN THE AUDIENCE, IF IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE STANDING UP AND RAISING YOUR HAND, THEN THAT'S A I WANT TO BE HEARD. UM, SO WE WOULD HALT AND LET YOU COME UP AND BE HEARD. UM, WELL, SO, AND I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT, I UNDERSTOOD, BUT, BUT NOT JUST CONCERNED ABOUT ME, BUT IN TERMS OF JUST THE OVERALL MEETING, UM, PRACTICES, I KNOW THAT LAST MEETING IT WAS SURPRISING THERE WAS, I THINK THERE WERE A COUPLE OF LATE COMMENTS FROM PEOPLE WHO KNEW ABOUT THIS RULE. SO, OKAY. SO WHAT I'M, IN CONCLUSION, WHAT I'M HEARING YOU SAY IS ONE GOOD WAY IS TO STAND UP HERE SORT OF BEHIND THE, WELL, AND ANOTHER WAY IS IF IT WERE A CROWDED MEETING AND THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WERE WANTING TO GET THE CHAIR'S ATTENTION THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE PEOPLE ACTUALLY JUST STANDING IN THE AUDIENCE RAISING THEIR HANDS. YES. IT'S FOR THE CHAIR TO RECOGNIZE THEM, OR FOR THE CLERK TO RECOGNIZE THEM. YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL GOING TO BE LOOKING, UH, YOU KNOW, CITY ATTORNEY SKINNER HAS A HIGH LEVEL VIEW UP THERE ON THE PODIUM. TALL, TALL AND , AND SHE IS TALL. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, FROM THE SIDELINES WE HAVE A DIFFERENT VIEW. SO IT IS, AND THEN THE CHAIR ALSO. AND IN ADDRESSING, I THINK WHAT THE UNDERLYING QUESTION IS, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE DIS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A SAY GETTING THE ATTENTION AND DISRUPTING. YES. RIGHT. AND, AND REALLY, UM, I THINK WE'LL GET USED TO DOING THAT AS PEOPLE STAND UP, WANT TO BE HEARD, RAISE THEIR HANDS. THERE WILL BE OTHER PEOPLE WHO CONTINUE SPEAKING DURING SOMEONE ELSE'S TIME OR OVERTALK. THAT WOULD BE THE DISRUPTION PART. MM-HMM . OR OBVIOUSLY WHEN YOU HAVE CERTAIN PEOPLE GET UP, THEY MIGHT USE BAD LANGUAGE. THOSE ARE THINGS THAT ARE CONSIDERED DISRUPTIVE UNDER THE POLICY SOMETIMES, DEPENDING ON WHAT IT'S, DID YOU SAY THAT NOTWITHSTANDING THIS RULE THOUGH, THERE'S ONLY GONNA BE ONE SPEAKING OPPORTUNITY PER AGENDA ITEM PER PERSON. SO IF A PERSON HAS YES, YES. IT'S STILL THE SAME. WHERE IS ONE? YES. AND I MEAN, THAT'S SUBJECT TO CHANGE BY THE CITY COUNCIL'S RULES, BUT THEY ARE WHAT THEY ARE RIGHT NOW. SURE. COOL. THANK Y'ALL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. WELL, I THINK WE SUCCESSFULLY IMPLEMENTED THE NEW POLICY . UM, JOHN WAS VERY HELPFUL AS A VOLUNTEER CITY CLERK CHAPEL. JUST ONE QUESTION THAT I HAD. UM, SO DO WE NEED TO ACTIVELY INVITE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR EACH AGENDA ITEM OR IT JUST, YOU KNOW, THE AGENDA ITEM COMES UP, WE KIND OF OBSERVE, ARE THERE FOLKS STANDING KIND OF THING? WELL, FOR EACH AGENDA ITEM, DO YOU GENERALLY, UH, ASK, UH, WALTER IF THERE ARE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? GOT IT. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHTY. UM, THEN MOVING ON TO, ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. THANK YOU. CITY CLERK CHAPEL. APPRECIATE IT. MOVING [8. REPORT FROM THE NATIONAL CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT REGARDING USE OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE T] ON THEN TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, REPORT FROM THE NATIONAL CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT REGARDING USE OF ARTIFICIAL TECHNOLOGY. UM, DURING THE MAY 21ST CPRC MEETING, VICE CHAIRS, ULKA SUBMITTED A REQUEST FOR A REPORT FROM THE NATIONAL CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT REGARDING THE USE OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE. UM, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK VICE CHAIRS, DUKA, UH, TO OFFER ANY SORT OF ADDITIONAL INFORMATION NECESSARY, UM, PERTAINING TO THAT ITEM REQUEST. GREAT. THANK YOU. YEAH, SO TODAY'S AGENDA ITEM WOULD BE TO CONSIDER REQUESTING A REPORT FROM THE DEPARTMENT ON USE OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE. UM, SOME BACKGROUND ON WHY I SUBMITTED THIS REQUEST. THERE'S A NEW STATE LAW AS OF, UH, JANUARY 1ST OF THIS YEAR THAT REQUIRED, UM, DISCLOSURES AND RECORD KEEPING REQUIREMENTS RELATED TO U THE USE OF AI TO DRAFT POLICE REPORTS. UM, WHEN I FIRST REQUESTED THIS ITEM, I DIDN'T NECESSARILY SEE ANYTHING ADDRESSING THAT IN THE DEPARTMENT'S POLICY MANUAL DID. IN PREPARING FOR THIS MEETING, I DID REVIEW CURRENT ONE. IT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS UPDATED AS OF LIKE JUNE 16TH, 2026. IT DOES INCLUDE THE LANGUAGE FROM THAT LAW, SB 5 24 PENAL CODE SECTION 1, 3 6, 6 3. THAT REQUIRES, IF AI IS USED TO DRAFT POLICE REPORTS, YOU HAVE TO DISCLOSE THAT IN THE REPORT AND ALSO HAVE TO KEEP RECORDS RELATED TO THE FIRST DRAFT, ET CETERA. UM, BUT FURTHER, UM, THAT'S ONE PART. BUT WHAT I REALLY REQUESTED THIS ITEM WAS TO ADDRESS OR KEEP ON TOP OF WHAT THE DEPARTMENT IS DOING REGARDING AI, THE USE OF AI. UM, FOR MORE BACKGROUND, [00:25:01] THE SAN DIEGO POLICE DEPARTMENT LAST YEAR BANNED THE USE OF AI, UH, FOR REPORTS. AND JUST ACROSS THE BOARD THEY SAY OFFICERS CAN'T USE AI AT THIS POINT. UM, I HAVE THE ORDERS, THERE'S ORDER FROM DECEMBER, IT'S 25, 35, AND THEN ANOTHER ONE RECENTLY, AGAIN, BANNING THE USE OF AI OR THE UPLOADING OF ANY OFFICIAL INFORMATION TO ANY AI PROGRAMS THAT CAME OUT IN JUNE. AND THAT'S ORDER 26 1 1 6. THEN DOWN SOUTH WE HAVE CHULA VISTA. THEY ACTUALLY DID ADOPT AI. THEY USE AI TO DRAFT POLICE REPORTS. AND THEY RECENTLY THIS YEAR EXPANDED IT TO INCLUDE U USING THE SAME AI PROGRAM FOR HELP WITH 9 1 1 CALLS. AND DISPATCH, OF COURSE, AI ANYWHERE, BUT PARTICULARLY IN THE LAW ENFORCEMENT CONTEXT, RAISES SERIOUS CONCERNS RELATED TO SAFETY, SECURITY, PRIVACY, FAIRNESS, RELIABILITY. UM, SO AGAIN, AS THIS COMMISSION IS RESPONSIBLE FOR KIND OF OVERSEEING POLICE DEPARTMENT OPERATIONS AND MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS RELATED TO POLICE DEPARTMENT, UM, OPERATIONS, I THOUGHT IT WAS APPROPRIATE FOR US TO KIND OF GET A HANDLE ON WHAT'S HAPPENING, WHAT'S POTENTIALLY HAPPENING IN THE NEAR FUTURE. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHY I THOUGHT POTENTIALLY WE COULD REQUEST A REPORT, NOT THAT THE REPORTING TODAY, BUT AGAIN, FOR US TO CONSIDER REQUESTING A REPORT FOR POTENTIALLY THE NEXT MEETING. UM, SO LEMME JUST MAKE SURE, I I JUST QUICKLY, IF I COULD, UNLESS ANYBODY HAS COMMENTS, I JUST HAD A QUICK TWO CLARIFYING QUESTIONS FROM THE DEPARTMENT. UM, IF YOU, IF YOU KNOW, CURRENTLY ARE POLICE OFFICERS AUTHORIZED TO USE AI FOR ANY WORK-RELATED CAPACITY? NO, WE, THE ONLY THING WE DID WITH AI IS WE DID DO AIDS A COUPLE MONTH TESTS WITH AXONS DRAFT ONE. OKAY. UH, JUST TO TEST IT. BUT THAT HAS CONCLUDED. THAT HAS CONCLUDED, YES. OKAY. AND DO YOU, I MEAN, FOR FORESEE, LET'S SAY LIKE FORESEEABLE FUTURE, I DON'T KNOW, WITHIN THE NEXT YEAR FORESEE IMPLEMENTING ANY AI, WHETHER IT'S FOR THE REPORT DRAFTING OR LIKE I SAID, ANYTHING ELSE RELATED TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE OFFICERS DO, WHETHER IT'S DISPATCH OR 9 1 1 CALLS IN THE NEAR FUTURE. YES. OKAY. UM, SO READY TO MAKE A MOTION UNLESS ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR DISCUSSION. DO ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS FOR VICE CHAIRS, ZUKA, OR ANY, UH, COMMENTS THEMSELVES? UM, WELL THEN I'D BE CURIOUS TO HEAR THE MOTION. SURE. AND BEFORE I MAKE THE MOTION, I JUST WANTED TO, UM, MENTION ONE THING WHEN I WAS REVIEWING THE NATIONAL CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT POLICY, UH, RELATED TO REPORT GENERATION 3, 2, 2, SPECIFICALLY SUBSECTION 0.7. SO 3 2, 2 0.7. THAT'S WHERE THEY EMBEDDED THE LANGUAGE RELATED TO THE NEW STATE LAW REQUIRING A DISCLOSURE IF IT'S USED. AND ALSO KEEPING THOSE RECORDS. UM, THERE'S A REFERENCE TO FIND THE TITLE. IT, IT SAYS, YOU KNOW, REFER TO THE GENERATIVE ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE USE POLICY FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. UM, I COULDN'T FIND THAT ANYWHERE WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT POLICY MANUAL. I DO KNOW, LIKE, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT SOMETIMES WE USE THE, THE DEPARTMENT RELIES ON THIRD PARTIES LIKE LEXIPOL TO HAVE DRAFT POLICIES AND I KNOW CHULA VISTA DOES AS WELL. SO WHEN I WAS REVIEWING CHULA VISTA'S POLICY, THEY DID HAVE A POLICY WITH THAT TITLE FROM LEXIPOL. SO I, I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF POINT THAT OUT JUST IN CASE IF, IF THAT HASN'T BEEN INCORPORATED YET FOR THE DEPARTMENT, I THINK POTENTIALLY THE REF JUST SOMETHING FOR THE DEPARTMENT TO CONSIDER REMOVING THAT REFERENCE UNLESS AND UNTIL IT'S, UH, INCORPORATED. BUT I WAS GONNA VICE CHAIR, COULD YOU SAY THAT PART ONE MORE TIME? THE NUMBER, THE, THE NUMBER OF THE POLICY REFERENCE? OH, SURE. SO IT'S POLICY 3 2 2 0.7. THANK YOU. AND UM, IT'S A SMALL SECTION THERE REFERS TO A GENERATIVE ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE USE POLICY, UM, WHICH AGAIN, IT SOUNDS LIKE LEXIPOL HAS DEVELOPED THAT POLICY TO, VISTA HAS ONE THAT TITLE FROM LEXIPOL THAT GOES THROUGH WHEN GENERATIVE AI COULD BE USED. THEY KIND OF REQUIRE CHIEF APPROVAL FOR ANYTHING. AND THEN ALSO SPECIFIC, YOU KNOW, SPECIFICITY AS TO WHAT'S BEING AUTHORIZED. UM, BUT WITH THAT, WITH KNOWING THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S CURRENTLY NOT USING ANY AI, I'M HAPPY TO DISCUSS THIS MORE, BUT MY CONSIDERATION WAS TO MAKE A MOTION THAT IF THE DEPARTMENT AUTHORIZES THE USE OF AI, IT SUBMITS A REPORT TO THE COMMISSION AT THE NEXT SCHEDULED MEETING. THE REPORT MUST INCLUDE, MUST IDENTIFY THE AI PROGRAMS BEING UTILIZED, HOW THEY WERE BEING, HOW THEY'RE BEING USED, WHEN AND HOW THEY WERE SELECTED AND APPROVED, ANY RULES OR POLICIES ON USING THEM AND ANY PAST OR UPCOMING TRAININGS ON THE USE OF THEM. AGAIN, WITH THE IDEA OF RIGHT NOW THERE'S NOTHING BUT YOU KNOW, I WANT TO KEEP GOING AND KEEP ON TOP OF IT. SO IF THE DEPARTMENT DOES SIX MONTHS IN A YEAR, KIND OF DECIDE, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'D BE GREAT FOR US TO GET THAT REPORT 'CAUSE THEN WE'RE NOTIFIED. WE KIND OF HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING AND CAN PROVIDE THAT OVERSIGHT. I'M HAPPY TO KIND OF HEAR ANY THOUGHTS FROM ANYBODY ELSE OR REPEAT THAT. UH, MY MOTION I MADE, I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND SURE. TO REPEAT THAT FOR FOLKS TO HEAR AGAIN. YEAH. THANK YOU CHAIR. [00:30:01] SO THE MOTION WOULD BE IF THE DEPARTMENT AUTHORIZES THE USE OF AI FOR ANY WORK-RELATED CAPACITY, IT SUBMITS A REPORT TO THE COMMISSION AT THE NEXT SCHEDULED MEETING. THE REPORT MUST IDENTIFY THE AI PROGRAMS BEING UTILIZED, HOW THEY ARE BEING USED, WHEN AND HOW THEY WERE SELECTED AND APPROVED, ANY RULES OR POLICIES ON USING THEM AND ANY PAST OR UPCOMING TRAININGS ON THE USE OF THEM. AGAIN, I KINDA IDEA OF IF TOMORROW YOU IMPLEMENTED OR AUTHORIZED THE USE OF AI, I WOULD HOPE POTENTIALLY BY NOVEMBER THE POLICE DEPARTMENT CAN OF GIVE US THAT NOTIFICATION, KIND OF SUBMIT THAT INFORMATION TO US. OF COURSE, IF YOU AUTHORIZE IT THE DAY BEFORE A MEETING OR A WEEK OR TWO WEEKS BEFORE, I THINK WE ALL, WE ALL KNOW THAT, OKAY, WELL LET'S JUST KICK IT TO THE NEXT MEETING. BUT I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO GET THAT OUT THERE AND KIND OF ALLOW US TO KEEP TRACK OF IT AND KIND OF HAVE THAT COLLABORATION WITH THE DEPARTMENT. AND I'M HAPPY TO REPEAT IT A THIRD TIME 'CAUSE I KNOW IT'S RATHER LONG. I WONDER THEN VICE CHAIR ZUKA, IF YOU MIGHT ACCEPT LIKE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO THAT BASED ON THAT LAST PIECE YOU SAID TO MAYBE SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF, UM, OFFER A REPORT WITHIN THE NEXT TWO SCHEDULED MEETINGS. SURE. SO THAT IF A POLICY WENT INTO EFFECT, UM, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY AS YOU SAID, THE WEEK OF, THEY WOULDN'T FEEL COMPELLED TO HAVE TO DELIVER A REPORT SURE. THREE DAYS LATER. YEAH, NO, THAT'S, THAT'S PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE TO ME. I WOULD ACCEPT THAT MOTION. AND IS THERE NO STANDING ON THE AI? JUST THE YEAH, JUST SO WE COULD KIND OF KEEP PROPER OVERSIGHT OF AI. 'CAUSE IT'S KIND OF OVER THE BOARD RIGHT NOW. LIKE I SAID, SAN CITY OF SAN DIEGO TOTALLY PROHIBITS IT, RIGHT? BUT CHULA VISTA WAS RIGHT ON BOARD, RIGHT ON TOP OF IT SAYING WE'RE GONNA DO IT. UM, SO THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT VAR YOU KNOW, OPTIONS OUT THERE, BUT I THOUGHT JUST AS YOU KNOW, IT'S EMERGING TECHNOLOGY. I'M SURE THERE'S A LOT OF USEFUL BENEFITS, BUT WE WOULD JUST WANT TO KIND OF KEEP AN EYE ON IT. UM, SO I'D REALLY APPRECIATE THAT INFORMATION FROM THE DEPARTMENT. DO ANY COMMISSIONERS BEFORE WE, UH, BEFORE I ASK FOR A SECOND ON THE MOTION, DO ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS? OKAY, THEN THERE IS A MOTION, UH, TO ACCEPT THE AMENDED, UH, MOTION TO ACCEPT THE AMENDED MOTION. UM, IS THERE A SECOND? I WILL SECOND THAT. THANK YOU. UM, WALTER, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE, WE ALREADY PULLED UP FOR THE VOTE CARRIED BY UNITED AS WELL. ALL RIGHTY. THANK YOU EVERYONE. THANK YOU. UM, MOVING ON THEN [9. REVIEW AND ADOPTION OF THE BYLAWS AND OPERATING PROCEDURES SUBCOMMITTEE’S PROPOSED AMENDMENTS ] TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE, REVIEW AND ADOPTION OF THE BYLAWS AND OPERATING PROCEDURES SUBCOMMITTEES PROPOSED AMENDMENTS. UM, DURING OUR LAST MEETING, MAY 21ST, UH, VICE CHAIRS ULKA SUBMITTED A REQUEST TO REVIEW AND ADOPT PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE BYLAWS AND OPERATING PROCEDURES. UH, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THOUGH THAT IS STILL A WORK IN PROGRESS, WE'VE NOT RECEIVED ANY PROPOSED AMENDMENTS YET FROM THE SUBCOMMITTEE, BUT GIVEN THAT THE REQUEST WAS SUBMITTED TO BE PLACED FROM THE AGENDA, UM, IT DOES NEED TO BE LISTED HERE. UM, IF THERE IS NO FURTHER DISCUSSION THEN, UM, OR I GUESS VICE CHAIR IF YOU'D LIKE TO OFFER ANY SORT OF UPDATE. YEAH, I'M HAPPY TO OFFER AN UPDATE AND THEN I WAS HOPING TO MAKE A MOTION TO, UM, MOVE THIS TO THE NEXT MEETING SO WE COULD, DON'T HAVE TO MAKE ANOTHER REQUEST, BUT YEAH, SO THE BYLAWS AND OPERATING PROCEDURES WERE, UM, CIRCULATED TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE. EVERYBODY REVIEWED IT. WE MET EARLIER THIS MONTH TO DISCUSS UPDATES. OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE THOSE UPDATES AGREED UPON BY MID-SEPTEMBER, WHICH WOULD GIVE HOPEFULLY ENOUGH OP, AT LEAST LET'S SAY HOPEFULLY A MONTH FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY TO REVIEW. AND THEN WE COME BACK, UM, LATE NOVEMBER. SO THE GOAL WOULD BE TO PRESENT OUR RECOMMENDATIONS, THE SUBCOMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATIONS BY OUR NOVEMBER MEETING, ANTICIPATING THAT WE WILL AS A SUBCOMMITTEE, KIND OF HAVE THEM APPROVED BY MID-SEPTEMBER AND SUBMITTED TO CITY ATTORNEY FOR HER REVIEW. UM, AND WITH THAT I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE THIS TO THE NEXT MEETING. IS THERE A SECOND FOR THAT MOTION? SECOND, NO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IF EVERYONE WOULD PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE FOR THE MOTION TO MOVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE TO THE NOVEMBER, 2026 MEETING CARRIED BY UNITED AS WELL. ALRIGHTYY. THANK YOU EVERYONE. UM, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10, AMEND [10. AMEND NATIONAL CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT POLICY MANUAL, CHAPTER 10, POLICY 1010 ] NATIONAL CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT POLICY MANUAL CHAPTER 10, POLICY 10 10. UM, DURING THE MAY 21ST CPRC MEETING, THE CPRC DISCUSSED THE POSSIBILITY OF AMENDING NATIONAL CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT POLICY MANUAL CHAPTER 10, POLICY 10 10 TO ESTABLISH AN ELECTRONIC COMPLAINT FORMAT FORM ONLINE THAT WOULD ALLOW INDIVIDUALS TO SUBMIT COMPLAINTS AND UPLOAD ATTACHMENTS VIA THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S WEBSITE. UM, DO ANY OF THE POLICE STAFF PRESENT HAVE ANY UPDATES ON THIS REQUEST? UH, JUST A QUICK UPDATE. UH, WE'RE STILL LOOKING INTO THIS. WE ARE GONNA MOVE FORWARD WITH SOME TYPE OF ONLINE SUBMISSION. WE'RE NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE. I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH MY IT, I SEE WHAT HE'S ABLE TO DO, BUT WE WILL HAVE HOPEFULLY SOMETHING TO PRESENT TO [00:35:01] YOU GUYS AT THE NEXT MEETING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT UPDATE. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COMMISSION? NO, I APPRECIATE THE RESPONSIVENESS FROM THE DEPARTMENT. UM, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO FURTHER DISCUSSIONS ON THAT ITEM. THANK YOU. GREAT. MOVING ON THEN TO AGENDA [11. NEW BUSINESS – COMMISSION ITEM REQUESTS] ITEM NUMBER 11, NEW BUSINESS, UM, SPECIFICALLY COMMISSION ITEM REQUESTS. UM, THE CPRC HAS RECEIVED ONE COMMISSION ITEM REQUEST FOR APPROVAL TO BE PLACED ON THE NOVEMBER 19TH CPRC AGENDA. THE REQUEST IS FOR A REPORT FROM NATIONAL CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT ON THE USE OF POLICE HELICOPTERS WITHIN CITY LIMITS. UM, THIS REQUEST WAS SUBMITTED BY BY VICE CHAIR ULKA, UH, VICE CHAIR ULKA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO PROVIDE SOME BACKGROUND ON THIS ISSUE? YEAH, KNOWING THAT THIS IS PURELY A VOTE TO WHETHER WE SHOULD CONSIDER IT AS AN, UH, THE, WHETHER WE SHOULD CONSIDER ADDING THIS TO THE NEXT AGENDA. I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK TOO MUCH ON THE ACTUAL TOPIC, BUT IT JUST RELATES, UM, TO THE AIR SUPPORT, UH, POLICY. IT'S POLICY 4 1 8, THE USE OF HELICOPTERS WITHIN CITY LIMITS. SO I'M REQUESTING THAT WE DISCUSS THIS AT THE NEXT MEETING IN NOVEMBER. THANK YOU FOR THAT. UM, IS THERE A MOTION TO PLACE THIS ON THE AGENDA FOR NOVEMBER, 2026? I'D MAKE A MOTION. THANK YOU. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. THANK YOU. UM, IF EVERYONE COULD PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. CARRIED WAYNE'S VOTE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH EVERYONE. UH, MOVING [12. CLOSED SESSION] ON NOW TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 12, CLOSED SESSION. NOW THE CPRC WILL NOW EXIT THE DAAS AND ENTER INTO CLOSED SESSION. ONCE CLOSED SESSION IS COMPLETE, ALL COMMISSIONERS WILL RETURN TO THE DAAS TO COMPLETE THE REMAINING ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. UH, LET US NOTE THAT WE ARE ENTERING CLOSED SESSION AT 6 38. ALL RIGHT, UM, THE CPRC HAS EXITED CLOSED SESSION AT 6 55. CITY ATTORNEY HEIDI SKINNER WILL NOW PROVIDE OUR CLOSED SESSION REPORT. I DUNNO WHY I HAVE TO PUT A MIC ON FOR THIS, BUT, OKAY. UM, TODAY THE COMMISSION MET ENC CLOSED SESSION FROM SIX 40, HOLD ON. 6 42. WAIT A MINUTE, LET ME MAKE SURE I'VE GOT THIS RIGHT. 6 38 6 38 2 6 50 55. THANK YOU. THE COMMISSION HEARD FIVE CASES ON ITEMS 12.1, 12.3, 12.4, AND 12.5. THE COMMISSION, UH, WAS IN UNANIMOUS SUPPORT OF THE FINDINGS. AT, FOR ITEM 12.2, THE COMMISSION VOTED FIVE TO TWO WITH COMMISSIONERS, UH, CUMMINGS, TORONTO, AND PHILLIPS VOTING NO ON THAT ITEM. ALL OTHER COMMISSIONERS VOTED, UM, IN APPROVAL WITH THE RECOMMENDATION. AND THAT'S THE END OF THE REPORT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MOVING ON THEN TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 13, CITY STAFF COMMENTS. UM, CITY ATTORNEY SKINNER, NO COMMENTS. THANK YOU SERGEANT CARDOZA, UH, NO COMMENTS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM, CPRC, CLERK HODI, NO COMMENTS. ALRIGHT THEN, UH, MOVING ON TO [14. COMMISSIONER REPORTS] AGENDA ITEM 14. COMMISSIONER REPORTS. I'D LIKE TO NOW CALL ON EACH COMMISSIONER FOR ANY REPORTS OR COMMENTS YOU'D LIKE TO OFFER. UM, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF ONCE CALLED AND STATE YOUR REPORT IF ANY. UM, LET'S BEGIN WITH YOU. COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER CUMMINGS SERRANO. NO REPORT. COMMISSIONER ROSALES, NO REPORTS. COMMISSIONER RICE, NOTHING TO REPORT. COMMISSIONER BLACKWELL REPORT. UH, VICE CHAIRS ULKA. YEAH. TWO QUICK THINGS. UM, I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT LAST MEETING WE REVIEWED THE USE OF MILITARY FORCE AND I MENTIONED DURING THAT MEETING THAT THE POLICE WEBSITE DIDN'T HAVE THE PRIOR YEAR REPORTS, UH, UP, UP PUBLICLY. UM, AND I JUST WANTED TO REPORT THAT NOW THEY ARE, THEY DATE BACK TO 2022. SO I JUST WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION FOR THE DEPARTMENT ON THEIR RESPONSIVENESS FOR THAT ISSUE. UM, AND THEN I ALSO JUST WANTED TO KINDA MAKE A GENERAL COMMENT THAT I FEEL LIKE MAYBE MOVING FORWARD DURING OUR MEETINGS, IT COULD BE NICE TO HEAR MORE FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DURING REPORTS, JUST KIND OF UPDATES ANYTHING THAT'S HAPPENING, INITIATIVES WITH THE, WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT, REOCCURRING PROBLEMS, JUST MORE OF A DIALOGUE. SO WE KIND OF KEEP IT UP TO DATE ON EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENING ON YOUR SIDE. UM, WELL WITH THAT, I'M DONE. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. UM, I DON'T KNOW COMMISSIONER MCCLURE, ANYTHING TO REPORT? NO REPORTS. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. UH, THEN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 15. ADJOURNMENT. [00:40:01] DO I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO ADJOURN THIS MEETING? UM, UNTIL THE NEXT CPRC MEETING ON NOVEMBER 19TH, 2026 AT 6:00 PM YEAH, I MAKE THE MOTION MOTIONS IN ULCA SECOND PHILLIPS, PLEASE GO AHEAD AND CAST YOUR VOTES. MOTION APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY TAKING WALTER'S JOB. SORRY. UH, THANK YOU EVERYONE. HAVE A GREAT EVENING. STAY WELL UNTIL, UH, UNTIL NOVEMBER. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.