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TO GET STARTED, IF WE COULD HAVE
[1.CALL TO ORDER]
A EXPLANATION FROM OUR INTERPRETER, PLEASE.THE FOLLOWING WILL BE AN ANNOUNCEMENT IN SPANISH.
AND AS A REMINDER, IF WE COULD SILENCE ANY AND ALL PHONE CALL, UH, PHONE, CELL PHONES, OR ANY OTHER, UH, DEVICES IN THE CHAMBERS, THAT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED.
WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER A LIVE WEBCAST.
THE MEETING MAY BE VIEWED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE.
IF YOU'RE WATCHING, UH, LIVE VIA ZOOM, VIEWING THE SPANISH VERSION OF THE MEETING, THE INTERPRETER INSTRUCTIONS WILL APPEAR IN THE CHAT BOX AT THE BOTTOM OF YOUR SCREEN.
FOR THOSE WHO PREFER TO SIT IN THE CHAMBER, HEADSETS ARE AVAILABLE TO PROVIDE LIVE SPANISH TRANSLATION, PLEASE SEE THE CITY CLERKS TO CHECK OUT A HEADSET.
THE NOTICE AGENDA AND INFORMATION ON THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY'S, UH, WEBSITE INFORMS MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT THEY MAY SUBMIT A GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT OR A PUBLIC COMMENT ON A SPECIFIC ITEM IN A NUMBER OF WAYS.
EITHER IN PERSON, UH, IN THE, UH, COUNCIL CHAMBER BY SUBMITTING A SALMON COLORED REQUEST TO ENTER A COMMENT QUEUE OR VIA ZOOM BY REGISTERING ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE AND RAISING A HAND DURING THE ITEM TO COMMENT AND OR EMAILING NO LATER THAN FOUR HOURS BEFORE THE MEETING.
ALL WRITTEN COMMENTS RECEIVED ARE DISTRIBUTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL PRIOR TO THE MEETING AND PUBLISHED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE IF RECEIVED BY THE DEADLINE.
WITH THAT, COULD WE HAVE ROLL CALL PLEASE? THANK YOU.
UH, MAYOR MORRISON PRESENT AND WE'LL NOTE THAT, UH, VICE MAYOR MOLINA IS ABSENT.
YEAH, SHE SHOULD BE HERE IN JUST A FEW MINUTES.
WITH THAT, IF WE COULD PLEASE STAND FOR THE INVOCATION, OR I'M SORRY.
ACTUALLY FOR THE P OF ALLEGIANCE, REMAIN STANDING FOR THE INVOCATION.
RIGHT HAND OVER YOUR HEART READY PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES.
AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH THE LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR WE HAVE A PASTOR, OR SHOW UP THIS TIME.
I DIDN'T GET A, DID NOT GET A MESSAGE TODAY.
SO WE WILL, UH, WE WILL FORGO, FORGO THAT.
AT THIS TIME, BEFORE WE GET INTO PUBLIC COMMENT, I WOULD LIKE, UH, TO PRESENT THAT TONIGHT WE'RE GONNA BE A, A JOURNEY.
UH, THE MEETING IN HONOR OF ABEL AL AND, UH, INDIVIDUAL, ONE OF OUR, UH, UH, COMMUNITY LEADERS HERE.
UH, HIS DAUGHTER WAS ACTUALLY ONE OF OUR STUDENT COUNCIL MEMBERS HERE ONCE UPON A TIME, WAY BACK WHEN.
AND, UH, AND, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE VERY INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND ONE, ONE WAY THAT YOU WOULD REALLY KNOW 'EM IS IF YOU EVER WENT TO THE JULY 4TH, UH, CELEBRATION AND HAD FRY BREAD.
THAT WAS HIS FAMILY THAT ALWAYS DID THE FRY BREAD AND EVERYTHING THERE AT THE JULY 4TH, UH, CELEBRATION.
AND SO, I DUNNO IF WE, DO WE HAVE MEMBERS OF THE FAMILY, UH, HERE? YES.
IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE A COUPLE MEMBERS OF THE FAMILY, AND THEN MR. BRIAN CLAPPER, WHO ALSO KNEW THEM.
YOU WANNA COME FORWARD? AND BRIAN, DID YOU WANNA COME FORWARD, SIR? THANK YOU.
AND A LITTLE BIT OF, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ABEL.
UM, HE WAS A GREAT FRIEND AND HE CALLED ME ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO AND WANTED TO COME TO THE CARNIVAL AND BE A VENDOR.
AND, UH, HE WAS VERY, VERY, VERY GOOD CHEF AND A TREMENDOUS MAN, AND BECAME FRIENDS WITH HIM.
AND HE DID SELL THE INDIAN BREAD, IS WHAT HE, HIS CLAIM TO FAME AND HIS CURLY FRIES.
AND, UH, THE CORN WAS AN AMAZING MAN.
AND HE WOULD COME OVER AND WE WOULD VISIT AND TALK ABOUT FISHING AND HUNTING WAS A FANTASTIC MAN AND A GOOD, AND ALL HE COULD TALK ABOUT WAS HIS FAMILY AND HOW GOOD THEY WERE AND HOW, JUST AN AMAZING, AMAZING MAN.
AND I WENT TO HIS SERVICES YESTERDAY AND I, I, THAT WAS SO MANY PEOPLE AND SO MANY NICE THINGS.
HE'S A WONDERFUL MAN AND HE WILL BE DEFINITELY MISSED.
UM, AVA WAS A GREAT MAN, SO THANK YOU.
YOU LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING? UH, YEAH, STEP TO THAT ONE.
OH, INTRODUCE YOURSELF, HER NAME, AND THEN JUST IF YOU WANNA SPEAK ABOUT YOUR DAD.
I DIDN'T COME FOR ANYTHING WITH ANYTHING PREPARED, BUT
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I'M, UM, MY DAD'S SON,UM, AND MY DAD, HE, HE WAS AWESOME.
HE GOT ME, TAUGHT ME FISHING, TAUGHT ME HUNTING.
UM, HE REALLY DID A GOOD JOB BEING THERE FOR ME, YOU KNOW, LIKE HE SAID, I SHOULD BE OUT BY, OUT OF THE HOUSE BY 18 BY, SO BY 26 I WAS OUT
HE, HE, LIKE YOU SAID, HE PARTICIPATED RIGHT HERE IN THE 4TH OF JULY.
HE, HE WOULD BRING ME ALONG TO HELP OUT AND STUFF AND BRING HIS GRANDCHILDREN TO HELP OUT.
AND HE, HE WAS A BIG IMPACT TO ALL HIS GRANDCHILDREN AND, YOU KNOW, TO ALL HIS CHILDREN AS WELL.
HE WAS, HE ALWAYS SAID, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU LOVE YOUR CHILDREN, BUT YOUR GRANDCHILDREN EVEN MORE
SORRY, I DIDN'T PLAN TO SPEAK ON HERE, BUT, BUT YEAH.
WELL, YOU KNOW WHY? WELL, YOU LOVE YOUR GRANDCHILDREN EVEN MORE THAN YOUR CHILDREN.
'CAUSE YOUR GRANDCHILDREN, YOU CAN SEND THEM HOME WITH THEIR PARENTS.
AND THEN, OKAY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING? OH, NO.
AND SO I, I APPRECIATE THAT, UH, UH,
I'VE KNOWN HIM FOR HOW I THINK LIKE, UH, 24, 20, 25 YEARS.
AND, UH, JUST GOING TO HIS SERVICE YESTERDAY.
I KNOW HE, HE JUST LEAVES A BIG HOLE.
NOT JUST, UM, IN YOUR FAMILY, BUT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IN YOUR COMMUNITY.
'CAUSE HE ALWAYS HAD HIS DOOR OPEN WHEN YOU GUYS HAD ZA BARBECUES OR JUST EVENTS.
HE WOULD INVITE THE NEIGHBORS AND JUST LIKE PEOPLE WHO ARE ALWAYS LIKE ECONOMICALLY IN NEED, WHETHER IT'S FAMILY OR FRIENDS, LIKE, HE DID A LOT FOR THE COMMUNITY.
AND SO WAS A DJ AND, AND WAS REALLY INVOLVED WITH OUR LOW RIDER COMMUNITY AS WELL.
SO, UM, AND WAS WOULD GO FISHING AT PEPPER PARK.
UM, SO HE IS, UH, INCREDIBLE MAN, YOU GUYS, YOUR FAMILY HAS DONE A LOT IN THE COMMUNITY FROM, AND EVEN YOU WITH BOXING AND VOLUNTEERING AND YOUR SISTER YESENIA BEING A STUDENT COUNCIL REP.
UM, SO, UH, JUST OUR HEART GOES OUT TO YOUR FAMILY AND THANK YOU GUYS.
JUST ALL THE CONTRIBUTIONS FOR YOUR FATHER.
AND THANK YOU TO THE CITY, THE CITY COUNCIL, EVERYTHING FOR THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN HIM TO.
HE, HE REALLY APPRECIATED THAT.
WHAT? NOPE, PLEASE, WE HAVE SOMETHING HERE FOR YOUR, FOR YOUR FAMILY.
LET YOU KNOW THAT WE ADJOURNED THE TONIGHT'S MEETING IN YOUR HONOR.
[5.PUBLIC COMMENT (Part 1 of 2)]
INTO A PUBLIC HEARING AND OR THE, UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS.AND I TAKE IT WE HAVE SOME, YES.
UM, SO WE WILL, UH, UH, GIVE EVERYONE, UH, TWO MINUTES ON THEIR PUBLIC, UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS.
AND, UH, YOU CAN CAESAR JAVIER, FOLLOWED BY PURITA JAVIER, FOLLOWED BY LOUISA MCCARTHY IS MY DEAL.
FOR ENC, I AM
SINCE 1997, I AM ONLY REMEMBER HOW AND LATE HUSBAND HAROLD SHOUTED AT ME.
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PLACE AT THE BACKYARD.UH, BUSINESS WAS LOCATED, CONSTRUCTED, AND OPERATED IN OUR COMMUNITY SINCE 1984.
IN OUR RESEARCH, WHAT IS THE CODE RULE? CODE RULE.
AND, UM, UH, WHAT IS THIS RULING WITH EXEMPT TWO INDUSTRIAL AND MANUFACTURING BUSINESS? THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT.
THIS IS, THIS IS THE RESULT OF OUR EXPOSURE TO AIR CONTAMINANTS.
CONSULAR BUSH CAME TO OUR PLACE, CAME TO OUR HOME.
WE INVITED CONOR, UH, ANI ALSO.
WE ARE HERE BECAUSE WE HAVE REASON TO SURVIVE.
OUR DREAM IS, UH, YOU KNOW, UM, FULFILLMENT, THE RIGHT TO BE HAPPY IN A SIMPLE WORD.
AND WE NOTICED THAT, UH, IN OUR ATTENDANCE OF CITY COUNCILS MEETINGS IN THE REGION, INCLUDING CITY OF SAN DIEGO, AIR POLLUTION CONTROL DISTRICT, SANDAG COUNTY ADVISORY BOARDS IN THE HUMAN HEALTH SERVICES, WE FOUND OUT SOMETHING ELECTED OFFICIALS WOULD RATHER FOCUS ON HEAVY BUSINESS, BUSINESS, BUSINESS, MONEY, MONEY RATHER THAN HEALTH AND SAFETY OF HUMANS.
AND IT IS CONFIRMED BY THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY.
INDEED, THAT IS WHAT HAPPENING.
WHAT IS URBAN PLANNING? MR. BUSHER? BASIC PHYSICAL DEVELOPMENT IS NOT ONLY FOR THE EYES, FOR THE FEELING GOOD LIKE AIR CONDITIONING, BUT RATHER SURVIVABILITY, LONGEVITY OF HUMANS.
WHAT IS THIS NICE AIR CONDITION HOLSTER, IF NOT FOR THE PUBLIC TO CONFIRM.
ALL OPPOSED TO WHAT'S GOING ON.
LUISA MCCARTHY, FOLLOWED BY MCKAYLA POLANCO, FOLLOWED BY DOLE MORRISON.
SAY, TODAY WE HELD A PRESS CONFERENCE BECAUSE WE SUSPECT THE MAYOR IS TRYING TO GIVE TAXPAYER MONEY TO THE MAYOR'S ASSISTANT BASED ON A BOGUS CLAIM BROUGHT BY THE MAYOR'S OWN ATTORNEY.
ON SEPTEMBER 2ND, 2025, THERE WAS A SPECIAL MEETING, SIGNIFICANT EXPOSURE TO LITIGATION TODAY.
ANOTHER SPECIAL MEETING WITH SIMILAR TERMINOLOGY.
COULD IT BE ABOUT JOSIE FLORES CLARK? THEY LEFT HER NAME OUT IF THAT WERE TO BE TRUE.
BOTH RON AND LU MOLINA SHOULD RECUSE THEMSELVES FROM DISCUSSIONS OR DECISIONS INVOLVING HIS OWN ASSISTANT.
DURING SWORN DEPOSITION, IT WAS DISCOVERED COUNCILWOMAN MOLINA RUNNING FOR A REELECTION, WAS ENGAGING BACK AND FORTH COMMUNICATIONS TO HELP THE ATTORNEY WITH INFORMATION TO BUILD HIS CLAIM AGAINST THE CITY.
SHE SWORE TO PROTECT EMAILS AND TEXTS AS LATE AS 9:00 PM ON A FRIDAY NIGHT.
YOU SEE HER STONE FACE DEMEANOR, KNOCK, KNOCK, WHO'S THERE NOT COMMON SENSE AND NOT GOOD JUDGMENT.
YOU SHOULD HAVE DIRECTED ANY QUESTIONS TO THE CITY ATTORNEY.
RON HAS RESIGNED BECAUSE HE'S RUNNING FROM THE CONSEQUENCES
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OF HIS CORRUPT ACTS.UNDER MAYOR RON MORRISON'S CONTROL THE CITY SUNK INTO DIRE FINANCIAL CONDITIONS.
HE'S NOW ABANDONING SHIP, YET HE ENDORSED HIS CRONIES FOR COUNSEL SO THAT THEY CAN COVER HIS RETREAT.
MAYOR MORRISON KNOWS AN INDEPENDENT COUNSEL WILL EXPOSE HIS WRONGDOINGS.
THAT IS WHY HE ENDORSED HIS FELLOW MAJORITY BLOCK.
LUZ MOLINA, MARCUS BUSH, AND EANT ED NIETO WITH THE HOPES THAT HE WILL PROTECT, THEY WILL PROTECT HIM.
I'D LIKE TO REITERATE THE TIRED BACKS OF US TAXPAYERS MONEY IS TO SUPPORT PROGRAMS FOR THE ELDERLY AND THE YOUTH, NOT TO QUENCH THE THIRST OF GREED.
AND THAT'S YOU AND YOUR ASSISTANT.
HOW CAN, UH, RON MORRIS BE IN OFFICE FOR 34 YEARS AND NOT KNOW HOW TO RUN A CITY? AND HOW CAN RON MORRISON ENDORSE MARCUS BUSH WHEN HE CAN'T EVEN PAY HIS OWN CONDO? HAS BEEN CLOSE TO, UH, BANKRUPT, UH, OR NOT PAYING, GETTING, UH, HIS, UH, CONDO TAKEN BACK MANY A TIMES, NOT BEING ABLE TO PAY HIS WATER BILL.
RON MORRISON HAS RESIGNED BECAUSE HE CANNOT DEAL WITH ALL THE CONSEQUENCES THAT ARE GOING ON HERE.
THE CITY IS FINANCIALLY AND MORALLY BANKRUPT AND UNDER HIS CONTROL.
THE CITY IS NOW IN DIRE STRAIT AND HE'S ABANDONING SHEEP.
THE SHIP, THE SHIP IS SINKING.
SO IT'S TIME FOR ME TO GO, BUT BEFORE HE GOES, HE WANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT HIS ASSISTANT GETS PAID OFF.
WHY ARE THEY HOLDING THE SECRET MEETINGS ON SEPTEMBER 2ND? YOU PUT IT THERE THAT THERE WAS A CLAIM.
HER NAME'S ON THERE, BUT YET WE SUSPECT THAT TODAY YOU WERE VOTING ON HOW TO PAY HER OFF.
WHEN THE CITY IS IN FINANCIAL DIRE STRAITS, WHY ARE YOU PAYING HER OFF? WHAT HAS SHE DONE TO DESERVE THIS? THE VICTIMS HAVE NOT BEEN HEARD.
THE VICTIMS HAVE NOT GOTTEN THEIR, UH, VOICES HEARD YET.
THE PERPETRATOR ARE THE ONES THAT ARE GETTING REWARDED AND PAID OFF.
JUST LIKE WHAT HAPPENED WITH, UH, THE CHIEF OF POLICE AND ALL THE WRONGDOINGS THAT THE CHIEF, UH, OF THE, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DID.
WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM? NO CONSEQUENCES.
WHAT HAPPENED TO US? WE TRIED TO SETTLE.
SO WE WOULD STOP ALL THESE LAWSUITS AND THE MAYOR DIDN'T GIVE BARRY SCHULTZ THE PERMISSION TO SETTLE.
TWO YEARS LATER, YOU COULD HAVE SETTLED ASHLEY CUMMINGS.
YOU AS THE MEMBERS OF THIS COUNCIL COULD HAVE EDUCATED YOURSELF ON THIS.
DOLE MORRISON, FOLLOWED BY JENNIFER SANCHEZ, FOLLOWED BY SHERRY GOGI.
UH, I WAS AT THE, UH, MEETING EARLIER AT THE FOUR O'CLOCK AND I LOOKED IT UP AND IT'S POLICY 1 0 4 AND IT'S ITEM SIX, PUBLIC MEETING COMMUNICATION C TWO PUBLIC COMMENT, NON AGENDA AT THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING, SPEAKERS SHALL HAVE THE RIGHT TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ANY MATTER WITHIN THE ELECTED BODY'S JURISDICTION, SUBJECT TO THE THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT OR LESS, DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF SPEAKERS.
ITEM A AT WHICH REGULAR OR AT EACH REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING, UP TO 30 MINUTES SHALL BE RESERVED FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
UH, B THE CITY CLERK WILL REVIEW THE SLE SPEAKER SLIPS AND INFORM THE PRESIDING OFFICER OF THE NUMBER OF SLIPS.
IF THE NUMBER OF SPEAKERS AT THREE MINUTES EXCEEDS THE 30 MINUTE ALLOTTED TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, THE PRESIDING OFFICER MAY REDUCE THE TIME ALLOTTED EACH SPEAKER TO EACH SPEAKER, EXTEND THE PUBLIC COMMENT TIME, OR CONTINUE REMAINING SPEAKERS TO THE END OF THE MEETING.
I TALKED WITH, UH, TANYA WHILE YOU GUYS WERE IN, UM, CLOSED SESSION, AND SHE SAID SHE COUNTED FIVE SPEAKERS AT THREE MINUTES.
UM, THAT'S HALF THE TIME FOR THE ALLOTTED.
AND THEN YOU MIGHT SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS AN AGENDA ITEM EVEN THOUGH IT REALLY WASN'T LISTED WHAT IT WAS ABOUT, RIGHT.
SO, BUT, UM, BUT ON PUBLIC COMMENT, AGENDA SPEAKERS HAVE THE RIGHT TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ITEMS WHICH APPEAR ON THE AGENDA SUBJECT TO THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT.
IT DOES SAY ON ITEM J THAT THE PRESIDING OFFICER SHALL HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO REDUCE EQUALLY EACH SPEAKER'S TIME TO ACCOMMODATE A LARGE NUMBER
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OF SPEAKERS, WHICH WE DIDN'T HAVE.OR LIMIT THE TOTAL SPEAKER TIME ON AGENDA ITEM.
WELL, IF YOU BASE IT ON THE 30 MINUTE TIMEFRAME, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE WHY WE WERE LIMITED TO TWO MINUTES INSTEAD OF THREE MINUTES.
AND I THINK YOU GUYS SHOULD DO BETTER AT MAKING IT FAIR FOR ALL SPEAKERS, WHETHER YOU'RE IN LINE WITH THEM OR NOT.
JENNIFER SANCHEZ, FOLLOWED BY SHERRY GOGI.
I, UH, MY NAME IS JENNIFER SANCHEZ AND, UM, I LIVE IN BONITA AT 34 40 VALLEY ROAD, UH, NEXT TO A DEVELOPMENT THAT IS BEING ANNEXED INTO NATIONAL CITY AT 34 10 VALLEY ROAD, THE VALLEY VIEW DEVELOPMENT.
SO, UM, ARE YOU READY FOR A CHANGE OF GEARS? I'M, I'M NOT HERE TO ATTACK YOU TONIGHT.
UM, I HOPE YOU CAN FOCUS ON WHAT I'M SAYING MIGHT BE A BAD NIGHT TO BRING UP SOMETHING TOTALLY DIFFERENT.
UM, MY HUSBAND AND MY HUSBAND ROBERTO AND I LIVE, I TOLD YOU WHERE WE LIVE.
UM, AND I'M HERE BECAUSE THE DEVELOPER, ARTURO VALDEZ WITH HIS COMPANY, VALLEY VIEW DEVELOPERS, IS OPERATING IN CRIMINAL DEFIANCE OF NATIONAL CITY.
AND I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO, UM, SET THINGS STRAIGHT AND, UH, PROBABLY COLLECT A LOT OF FINES WITH THIS.
AND ALSO TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, WHEN YOU HAVE CONTRACTORS, UH, WHO WANNA BUILD IN YOUR CITY, THAT THEY FOLLOW YOUR GUIDELINES LINES.
UM, I'VE GIVEN, WELL, I HAVEN'T YET.
I GAVE A BUNCH OF DOCUMENTS TO TANYA WHO'S GONNA GIVE THEM TO YOU AFTERWARD.
I'M SORRY I DIDN'T GET THEM TO YOU BEFORE.
BUT EACH DOCUMENT CITES THE OFFENSES OF THE BUILDER.
THESE OFFENSES ARE PUNISHABLE ACCORDING TO MUNICIPAL CODES BY FINES, ARREST, RIGHT? REMOVAL OF CONDITIONAL AGREEMENTS AND SUSPENSION OF LICENSE AS A CONTRACTOR.
THERE'S A LOT THAT'S WRITTEN INTO THE MUNICIPAL CODES IN THE CALIFORNIA BUILDING CODE THAT CAN BE DONE ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING OVER THERE.
AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE LIST OF OFFENSES YOU'RE GONNA BE GOING, WHAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE GONNA BE IN DISBELIEF AT WHAT THESE PEOPLE ARE DOING BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S BLATANT AND IT'S SHOCKING.
UH, SO IN THE POINT OF IT IS THAT, UH, WE WOULD LIKE THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME IS UP NOW,
SHERRY GOGI MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, STAFF AND RESIDENTS.
I'M HERE ON A FEW THINGS TONIGHT.
I AM THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE NATIONAL CITY FIRE AND FIRE, UH, FIRE POLICE AND FIRE FOUNDATION.
AND WE'RE HAVING A FLAT JACK BREAKFAST FUNDRAISER.
SEPTEMBER 19TH FROM EIGHT TO 10 AT THE APPLEBEE'S IN PLAZA BERITA IS $12 GREAT BREAKFAST.
GREAT CAUSE 'CAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE SERVING OUR POLICE AND FIRE.
AND SO PLEASE COME TO THAT AND WE WILL BE SELLING TICKETS FOR THAT BREAKFAST THIS SUNDAY AT THE CARS AND CULTURE EVENT IN KIMBALL PARK.
THE CHAMBER HAS, UH, PARTNERED WITH THE MILE OF CARS AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE OVER LIKE 150 CARS THERE.
THIS CAN BE FUN FROM 10 TO TWO.
AND WE'LL BE SELLING THOSE TICKETS FOR BREAKFAST.
AND THEN THE FINAL THING I WANNA BRING UP IS, IT'S NOT IN NATIONAL CITY, BUT SWEETWATER VALLEY LITTLE LEAGUE IS OUR NOW UNITED STATES, WEST COAST CHAMPIONS.
THEY ARE SHOWING THEIR SPIRIT IN, UH, WOMEN'S WILLIAMSPORT.
AND THEY HAVE A GAME THURSDAY AT FOUR O'CLOCK.
I THINK IT WOULD BE REALLY GOOD GESTURE IF WE CAN, IF WE CAN PUT LIGHTS ALL OVER TOWN, YELLOW AND BLUE.
'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT OUR COLORS ARE FOR THE, THE LITTLE LEAGUE.
AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE WATCH PARTIES ALL OVER.
YOU'LL SEE 'EM IN SOCIAL MEDIA AND WE HOPE YOU GUYS WATCH THE GAME BECAUSE THESE KIDS SW AND UNDER THEY DESERVE IT.
DATE AND TIME ONCE AGAIN FOR APPLEBEE'S.
APPLEBEE'S IS SEPTEMBER 19TH, EIGHT TO 10 IN THE MORNING.
AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS, CAN YOU TALK TO THEM ABOUT CHANGING THEIR COLORS TO RED AND GRAY? GO? HE'D GO OVER A LOT BIGGER HERE.
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MY GOD, IT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING.THAT CONCLUDES IN-PERSON PUBLIC COMMENT.
DO WE, WE HAVE ONE COMMENT ON ZOOM.
OKAY, WE'LL LEAVE THAT ONE FOR LATER,
THAT INCLUDES OUR, OUR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
I DO HAVE A SHORT PREPARED STATEMENT AND THAT IS THAT THE CLAIM BEING PRESENTED TODAY SHOULD BE VIEWED FOR WHAT THEY ARE ALLEGATIONS AND ASSERTIONS NOT ESTABLISHED FACTS.
UNFORTUNATELY, THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH A PATTERN OF CLAIMS MADE PUBLICLY BY MARIA VERSON AND HER CLIENTS AT LA VISTA CEMETERY THAT I BELIEVE ARE BOTH INACCURATE AND UNSUPPORTED BY THE FACTS.
AFTER 34 YEARS OF PUBLIC SERVICE, I BELIEVE THE RESIDENTS NATIONAL CITY DESERVE FACTS, TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY, NOT SENSATIONAL ACCUSATIONS MADE FOR THE BENEFIT OF A PRESS CONFERENCE.
I HAVE BEEN RAISING CONCERNS ABOUT THE CITY'S SPENDING AND THE NEED FOR FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY FOR YEARS.
I HAVE CONSTANTLY ADVOCATED FOR WATCHING OUR SPENDING, LIVING WITHIN OUR MEANS AND MAINTAINING APPROPRIATE REVENUE, UH, RESERVES.
I'VE NOT ALWAYS AGREED WITH THE SPENDING DECISIONS MADE BY THE ENTIRE COUNCIL.
AND I SAY SOMETIMES WE'VE AGREED AND SOMETIMES WE HAVEN'T.
AND I BELIEVE THE TAXPAYERS HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO ASK HOW THEIR MONEY IS BEING SPENT.
IF THERE ARE LEGITIMATE CONCERNS ABOUT THE CITY, THERE ARE APPROPRIATE PROCESSES TO INVESTIGATE THEM.
I WELCOME THE FACTS AND DOCUMENTATION BEING REVIEWED BY THE APPROPRIATE AUTHORITIES.
UNTIL THAT HAPPENS, THESE CLAIMS SHOULD NOT BE PRESENTED AS IF THEY ARE FACTS.
I ALSO WANNA MAKE ONE POINT ABSOLUTELY CLEAR.
MY DECISION NOT TO SEEK REELECTION WAS MADE WHEN I WAS LAST REELECTED AND HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CITY'S CURRENT DEFICIT.
AFTER 34 YEARS OF DEDICATING MY LIFE TO NATIONAL CITY, I DECIDED IT WAS TIME TO STEP AWAY FROM PUBLIC OFFICE AND FOCUS BOTH ON MY FAMILY AND MY OWN LIFE.
I'M PROUD OF MY 34 YEARS OF SERVICE AND I WILL CONTINUE TO SERVE THE PEOPLE OF NATIONAL CITY WITH HONESTY AND INTEGRITY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH WITH THAT THEN WE WILL NOW GO ON
[6.1 Introduction of New Hires and Promotions of City Employees]
INTO PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS.AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE SOME NEW HIRES AND PROMOTIONS.
I'LL FIRST TAKE A LOOK TOWARD OUR POLICE CHIEF MAYOR, I GOTTA FOLLOW THAT.
UH, THE NATIONAL CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT IS PROUD TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE RECENT ADDITIONS TO OUR TEAM.
THE LIST BEGAN BACK IN MAY TO THE CURRENT DATE.
UH, ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE'VE HAD FOR A LONG TIME HAS BEEN THE STAFFING, UH, TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY THAT WE SERVE WITH THE OVER 62,000 CALLS FOR SERVICE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
DURING MY ENTIRE CAREER AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE HAVE NOT BEEN FULLY STAFFED.
WE ARE STILL DOWN SEVERAL OFFICERS AND OTHER PROFESSIONAL STAFFS.
ALL OF THE INDIVIDUALS I'M GONNA HIGHLIGHT TODAY PLAY A KEY ROLE IN KEEPING OUR COMMUNITY SAFE.
AND I'M PROUD TO ANNOUNCE THE FOLLOWING ADDITIONS TO OUR NATIONAL CITY TEAM.
IS THERE A SLIDE WITH THEM? THERE WE GO.
SO I WILL BEGIN WITH OFFICER GABRIEL CIA.
HE GREW UP IN THE SOUTH BAY, ATTENDED SOUTHWESTERN COLLEGE POLICE ACADEMY, UH, GABRIEL PUT HIMSELF THROUGH A YEAR LONG POLICE ACADEMY AND RIGHT BEFORE, UH, WE HIRED HIM RIGHT BEFORE HE GRADUATED.
GABRIEL WAS THE HONOR GRADUATE AND IS CURRENTLY TRAINING, UH, DURING DAY SHIFT.
SHE GREW UP IN ARIZONA, BUT WANTED TO MAKE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA HOME.
SIMILAR TO GABRIEL EVE, PUT HERSELF THROUGH THE POLICE ACADEMY IN RIO HONDO POLICE ACADEMY IN WHITTIER, LA EVE.
EXCELLED AT THE POLICE ACADEMY AND WAS RECOGNIZED AS THE TOP ACADEMIC STUDENT IN HER CLASS.
AFTER BEING HIRED WITH US, EVE FOUND AN APARTMENT IN NASHVILLE CITY AND IS A CURRENT
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NATIONAL CITY RESIDENT AND A VOTERUH, EVE IS CURRENTLY IN TRAINING WORKING SWING SHIFT.
NEXT TO EVE IS CHRISTIAN DURIO.
HE GREW UP IN SAN YSIDRO AND WOULD FREQUENT NATIONAL CITY.
HE ALSO ATTENDED THE SOUTHWESTERN COLLEGE ACADEMY WHERE HE WAS RECOGNIZED AS A TOP ATHLETE OF HIS CLASS.
CHRISTIAN IS CURRENTLY ASSIGNED TO THE GRAVEYARD SHIFT.
UH, JOE MORONES, A SAN DIEGO NATIVE THAT WENT TO MISSOURI TO BE A POLICE OFFICER BEFORE RETURNING HOME.
JOE WAS HIRED AS A TRUE LATERAL AND IS CURRENTLY COMPLETING THE TRAINING PROGRAM.
JOE SHOULD BE WORKING AS A SOLO BEAT OFFICER SHORTLY.
HE'S CURRENTLY WORKING THE SWING SHIFT.
NEXT TO JOE IS ERICA RODRIGUEZ.
SHE GREW UP IN IB AND PREVIOUSLY WORKED AT THE SAN DIEGO PROBATION DEPARTMENT.
TODAY ERICA HELPS OUR COMMUNITY AT THE FRONT DESK WITH REPORTS AND ANY OTHER NEEDS FOR THOSE.
ARRIVING TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
ERICA INTENDS TO APPLY OR WANTS TO BECOME A POLICE OFFICER SOON.
DISPATCHER IVANA GONZALEZ WORKED FOR THE SAN DIEGO PACE IN NATIONAL CITY.
IVANA IS CURRENTLY IN DISPATCH TRAINING AND WORKING THE GRAVEYARD SHIFT.
IVANA WILL BE ATTENDING A DISPATCH COURSE ALONG WITH DISPATCHER ALFONSO MUNOZ, WHO PREVIOUSLY WORKED AT THE HUMANE SOCIETY AND IS CURRENTLY IN TRAINING AS WELL.
BOTH LUIS ANDRA AND NICK JENKINS ARE ATTENDING THE POLICE ACADEMY.
THEY BEGAN AUGUST 10TH AND SHOULD COMPLETE THEIR ACADEMY FEBRUARY 5TH.
LUIS IS A FORMER COAST GUARD LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER AND UH, NICK JENKINS IS A SWEETWATER GRAD WHO IS ALSO A QUARTERBACK FOR THE SWEETWATER ROD DEVILS AND A FORMER MARINE.
AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST IS STEPHANIE MENDOLA.
SHE GREW UP IN SAN YSIDRO AND STARTED OUR CITY AS A TEMP WORKING AT CITY HALL.
STEPHANIE JUMPED OVER TO THE PD AS AN ADMIN SECRETARY BEFORE BEING PROMOTED TO A EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT TO STEPHANIE.
WORKS IN THE CHIEF'S OFFICE AND IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF OUR COMMAND STAFF.
THAT IS THE, UH, POLICE DEPARTMENT GROUP.
ALRIGHT, UH, LET'S SEE WHO WANTS TO GO NEXT.
UH, GOOD EVENING MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL STAFF, AND THE PUBLIC MARTIN REEDER DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
UH, IT'S MY PRIVILEGE TO WELCOME BACK, UH, SOMEONE WHO TRULY KNOWS NATIONAL CITY INSIDE AND OUT.
AND RUBEN GREW UP HERE IN THE CITY ATTENDING CENTRAL ELEMENTARY NATIONAL CITY JUNIOR HIGH AND SWEETWATER HIGH CLASS OF 1994.
HE STARTED SERVING OUR COMMUNITY EARLY AS A POLICE EXPLORER RISING TO LIEUTENANT.
HE THEN SPENT 25 YEARS WITH THE US BORDER PATROL AS AN INSTRUCTOR, FIELD TRAINING OFFICER, EXPLORER ADVISOR, HONOR GUARD MEMBER, AND A 17 YEARS IN THE A TV UNIT.
HE WAS ALSO PART OF THE MARITIME SMUGGLING INTERDICTION UNIT, WHICH TOOK HIM ALL THE WAY TO BOGOTA COLUMBIA TO WORK ALONGSIDE THE COLUMBIAN NATIONAL POLICE.
RUBEN FIRST BROUGHT THAT EXPERTISE TO OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT TEAM FROM AUGUST, 2022 TO MAY, 2023, WHERE HE TOOK ON HANDS-ON WORK WITH HOMELESS OUTREACH AND ENCAMPMENT CLEANUPS.
AFTER HIS TIME HERE, HE MOVED TO OKLAHOMA TO SERVE AS A CODE ENFORCEMENT SUPERVISOR FOR THE CITY OF MUSKOGEE.
FOLLOWED BY A BRIEF STINT BACK WITH HOMELAND SECURITY AS A RETIRED ANNUITANT.
THIS GUY GETS AROUND, BUT WE MANAGED TO GET HIM BACK, AND NOW HE'S JOINING US AS PART OF OUR HOME TEAM TO SUPPORT OUR HOMELESS OUTREACH MOBILE ENGAGEMENT EFFORTS.
ON A PERSONAL NOTE, REUBEN IS ALSO A GREAT SPORT.
SOME OF YOU MIGHT REMEMBER OUR 2022 CHRISTMAS PARTY WHEN HE SHOWED UP DRESSED AS SANTA'S ELF, GREEN TIGHTS AND ALL.
SO PLEASE JOIN ME IN WELCOMING BACK RUBEN GONZALEZ.
AND THEN, UH, I'LL JUST JUMP AHEAD REAL QUICK TO THE PROMOTIONS FOR ERIN REEM, WHO IS OUR, UH, NEW ASSISTANT PLANNER.
AND IT'S MY PLEASURE TO INFORM YOU OF THE PROMOTION OF ERIN REEM TO ASSISTANT PLANNER WITH THE PLANNING DIVISION.
SHE WAS PREVIOUSLY OUR PLANNING TECH.
SHE WAS HIRED AS THE TECH ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO IN MARCH OF 2025.
SHE ORIGINALLY, UH, WAS WORKING AS A PLANNER FOR JACKSON COUNTY IN OREGON IN 2024, AND SHE GRADUATED FROM UC, DAVIS WITH A BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENCE.
ERIN QUICKLY BECAME PART OF THE TEAM AND IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE TO WORK WITH EVER SINCE.
SHE'S ALWAYS WILLING AND WANTING TO LEARN AND ALWAYS HAS GREAT IDEAS TO SHARE WITH HER FELLOW PLANNERS OF LATE.
ERIN HAS PLAYED A LARGE PART IN GETTING OUR TOBACCO RETAIL LICENSE PROGRAM UP AND RUNNING.
SHE HAS ALSO BEEN SHARING HER SPACE AND HER KNOWLEDGE WITH OUR NEW INTERN.
WHEN THE POSITION OF ASSISTANT PLANNER BECAME AVAILABLE IN JUNE OF THIS YEAR, ERIN WAS THE OBVIOUS CHOICE AND HAS THRIVED
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IN A ROLE EVER SINCE.SO AGAIN, CONGRATULATIONS TO ERIN ON A WELL-DESERVED PROMOTION.
GOOD EVENING MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, STAFF AND COMMUNITY PRESENT.
I'M MARTA JUAREZ, ACTING DIRECTOR FOR ENGINEERING AND PUBLIC WORKS.
I'M DELIGHTED TO ANNOUNCE THAT ESA HERANDEZ RIOS HAS JOINED OUR STREETS AND WASTEWATER DIVISION IN THE ROLE OF MAINTENANCE WORKER WITH THE STREETS CREW.
CESAR CANNOT BE HERE DUE TO HIS WORK SCHEDULE, BUT WE DID GET A LITTLE BIT OF, OF INSIGHT FROM HIM.
UH, HE CAME TO WORK FOR THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY IN EARLY JUNE WITH NEARLY SEVEN YEARS OF CONSTRUCTION RELATED WORK EXPERIENCE, INCLUDING WORKING FOR THE CITY OF POWAY.
UM, BUT STATED THAT HE PREFERS TENFOLD WORKING FOR THE CITY WHERE HE RESIDES AND REPORTS THAT HE'S REALLY ENJOYING HIS TIME HERE.
CESAR WAS BORN AND RAISED HERE IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY AND HAS LIVED IN NATIONAL CITY FOR A LARGE PART OF HIS LIFE.
HE SHARED THAT HE LOVES THE CULTURE AND THE VALUES THAT THIS CITY OFFERS AND IS MORE THAN HAPPY TO SERVE ITS RESIDENTS.
PLEASE HELP ME WELCOME CESAR TO OUR TEAM.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL AND STAFF.
I'M HERE TO INTRODUCE MR. ERIC BROWN.
HE'S A INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY TECHNICIAN, AND ERIC IS A NATIVE OHIOAN AND HE'S AN OHIO STATES FAN, SO I DON'T HOLD THAT AGAINST HIM.
BUT, UM, HE HIT THE GROUND RUNNING WHEN HE GOT HERE AND HE, THIS IS NOT HIS FIRST FORAY INTO, UH, PUBLIC SERVICE.
HE ACTUALLY WORKED FOR THE, UH, SAN DIEGO COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT FOR QUITE A WHILE.
AND, UM, WHEN ERIC GOT HERE, HE HIT THE GROUND RUNNING.
HE HAS QUITE A BIT OF IT EXPERIENCE, SO I WAS REALLY, REALLY HAPPY TO HAVE HIM JOIN OUR TEAM.
AS, AS YOU COULD SEE, HE'S NOW, UM, DEALING WITH THE, UH, COUNCIL MEETINGS, UM, SHADOWING WINE.
SO HE'LL BE DOING THIS BY HIMSELF IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE.
SO PLEASE HELP ME TO, UH, WELCOME, UM, ERIC BROWN ABOARD.
AND NOW SITTING IN FOR ROBERT DREW IS GONNA BE JEREMY DAY.
UH, I'M HERE TONIGHT TO SPEAK ABOUT TWO EXCEPTIONAL INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE BEEN PROMOTED TO FIRE CAPTAIN NICHOLAS BLACK.
DAN MCGUIRE HAVE EACH PROUDLY SERVED THE NATIONAL CITY FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR THE PAST 11 YEARS.
BEFORE JOINING OUR DEPARTMENT, BOTH NICK AND DAN WERE ALREADY SERVING THE NATIONAL CITY COMMUNITY WHILE ASSIGNED TO THE EMR AMBULANCE HOUSED AT FIRE STATION 34 PRIOR TO THEIR PROMOTION TO FIRE CAPTAIN.
BOTH SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETED OUR IN-HOUSE FIRE CAPTAIN ACADEMY, EARNING THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE IN AN ACTING CAPACITY ACTING CAPTAIN CAPACITY.
FOR SEVERAL MONTHS THROUGHOUT THEIR CAREERS, THEY HAVE BEEN CONSISTENTLY DEMONSTRATING EXCEPTIONAL LEADERSHIP, PROFESSIONALISM, AND DEDICATION TO SERVICE.
CAPTAIN NICHOLAS BLACK WAS RECOGNIZED AS FIREFIGHTER THE YEAR AND IS CREDITED WITH A BONAFIDE VICTIM RESCUE DURING A STRUCTURE FIRE.
THROUGH HIS DECISIVE ACTIONS AND COMMITMENT TO DUTY, THE VICTIM SURVIVED, WAS ULTIMATELY DISCHARGED FROM THE HOSPITAL AND WAS ABLE TO RETURN TO A NORMAL LIFE.
NICK'S ACTIONS EXEMPLIFIED THE HIGHEST TRADITIONS OF THE FIRE SERVICE AND THE PROFOUND IMPACT FIREFIGHTERS CAN HAVE ON THE LIVES OF THOSE WE SERVE.
CAPTAIN DAN MCGUIRE WAS HONORED WITH THE ST.
FLORIAN AWARD, AND MOST RECENTLY REPRESENTED THE NATIONAL CITY FIRE DEPARTMENT DURING STRIKE TEAM DEPLOYMENT TO OREGON AND WASHINGTON, WHERE HE SERVED AS A CAPTAIN OF OUR ENGINE COMPANY ASSIGNED TO THE WILDFIRE OPERATIONS.
DAN'S LEADERSHIP, PROFESSIONALISM, AND OPERATIONAL EFFECTIVE UNDER CHALLENGING CONDITIONS EARNED HIGH PRAISE FROM HIS STRIKE TEAM LEADER WHO WROTE IN HIS PERFORMANCE EVALUATION.
I CAME TO RELY ON CAPTAIN MCGUIRE AS THE BAROMETER OF BAROMETER AS TO WHAT WAS POSSIBLE OR NOT, WHERE SAFETY BOUNDARIES COULD BE TESTED OR BACKED AWAY FROM.
WHEN OTHER TEAM MEMBERS QUICKLY BECAME SKEPTICAL OF THE TASK, CAPTAIN MCGUIRE SHOWED HOW THE TASK COULD BE ACCOMPLISHED SAFELY AND EFFICIENTLY IN THESE MOMENTS.
HE WAS A LEADER OF HIS FELLOW COMPANY OFFICERS AND THE STRIKE TEAM, AND HE GOES ON TO SAY, I CANNOT SPEAK HIGHLY ENOUGH OF CAPTAIN MCGUIRE AND HIS CREW.
THEY REPRESENT NATIONAL CITY FIRE IN THE HIGHEST POSSIBLE WAY, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THE CHANCE TO WORK WITH THEM AGAIN TOGETHER.
CAPTAINS BLACK AND MCGUIRE EXEMPLIFY THE LEADERSHIP, COURAGE AND COMMITMENT TO SERVE, TO SERVICE THE DEFINES THE NATIONAL CITY FIRE DEPARTMENT.
TONIGHT WE ARE PROUD TO RECOGNIZE AND CONGRATULATE THEM ON THEIR WELL EARNED PROMOTIONS AND THANK THEM FOR THEIR CONTINUED COMMITMENT TO THE RESIDENTS OF NATIONAL CITY.
QUITE A, QUITE A MOUTHFUL TONIGHT OF, UH, NEW HIRES AND, UH, AND PEOPLE BEING PROMOTED.
AND FOR THE RECORD, THERE WAS A COMMENT, A WRITTEN COMMENT FROM TED GODSHAW ON THIS ITEM.
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THANK YOU.[7.1 A Reason To Survive (A.R.T.S.) Annual Report]
UNDER PRESENTATION, WE HAVE, UH, A REASON TO SURVIVE ARTS.YOU HAVE SOMEONE THERE SHE IS.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR CITY COUNCIL.
IT'S MY GOOD EVENING HONOR TO INTRODUCE OLYMPIA FOR ARTS CENTER.
OLYMPIA, WE HAVE A PRESENTATION HERE FOR YOU.
JUST A REMINDER, I AM OLYMPIA VAZQUEZ.
I WAS HERE A FEW MONTHS AGO LETTING YOU ALL KNOW THAT I WAS GONNA BE INTERIM EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR, UM, A REASON TO SURVIVE WHERE NEIGHBORS JUST DOWN THE STREET.
AND I'M HAPPY TO INTRODUCE YOU TO OUR NEW EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MARI ALVARADO, WHO BRINGS A LOT OF EXPERIENCE, UM, IN EDUCATION, IN SOCIAL SERVICES, AND JUST IN NONPROFITS.
SO I'M SUPER GLAD TO BE WORKING ALONGSIDE HER.
AND WE WANNA SHOW YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THE LAST FEW MONTHS AND WHAT'S COMING UP NEXT FOR US.
OH, THANK YOU SO MUCH, MAYOR, COUNCIL, STAFF AND COMMUNITY.
IT'S A, IT'S WONDERFUL TO BE HERE.
UM, I COME TO YOU FROM A, UM, MONARCH SCHOOL PROJECT, WHICH WORKED WITH FAMILIES AND CHILDREN WHO ARE UNHOUSED.
IT'S A DEEP COMMITMENT AND A PRIORITY OF MINE TO CREATE SAFE SPACES FOR CHILDREN AND FAMILIES AND ENGAGE IN, UM, MEANINGFUL AND HEALING PROGRAMMING SO THAT EVERYBODY HAS A SAFE PLACE TO GO AND SOMETHING FUN AND EXCITING AND MEANINGFUL TO DO.
I'M VERY, VERY EXCITED TO LAND AT ARTS AND TO BE HERE, UM, TO LEAD A FANTASTIC TEAM THAT IS OFFERING WAYS FOR CHILDREN IN NATIONAL CITY IN ALL 10 NATIONAL SCHOOL DISTRICT SCHOOLS, AS WELL AS THE MIDDLE SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOL COMMUNITY TO COME INTO OUR SPACE, AS WELL AS EVENTS AND ACTIVITIES FOR OUR NEIGHBORS AND EV EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY.
SO WE'D LOVE TO TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT WE DO.
UM, AND I'LL PASS IT BACK TO, UM, OH, NO, SORRY, I'LL TAKE
WE HAVE THIS BEAUTIFUL PRESENTATION TO SHARE ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING.
SO I'M SURE LOTS OF PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM ARE MUCH MORE FAMILIAR WITH OUR PROGRAMMING AS I'M CATCHING UP.
BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD LOVE TO HIGHLIGHT ABOUT THE BEAUTIFUL SPACE THAT WE HAVE, UM, AND THE PARTNERSHIP THAT WE HAVE WITH THE CITY IS WE HAVE, WE TAKE VERY SERIOUSLY OUR STEWARDSHIP OF THIS AWESOME RESOURCE THAT YOU'VE GIVEN US, WHICH IS THE SPACE IN YOUR COMMUNITY.
WE DO A LOT OF FUNDRAISING AND A LOT OF CONTRACT SERVICES TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HAS A SAFE PLACE TO BE, THAT THEY HAVE ACCESS TO OUR AMAZING TEACHING ARTISTS, AND THAT WE OPEN UP OUR DOORS FOR ALL CHILDREN AND FAMILIES AND COMMUNITY EVENTS THAT ARE HAPPENING.
SO WE HAVE, OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST YEAR, 25,000 VISITORS.
WE DO FUNDRAISING AND WE DO CONTRACTS WITH LOCAL SCHOOLS.
WE CREATE LOTS OF ART AND WE HAVE COMMUNITY CONNECTION WITH OUR KIDDOS.
AND WE'LL TELL TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THEY SAY ABOUT THAT.
BUT OLYMPIA'S GONNA TELL YOU REALLY QUICKLY ABOUT OUR PROGRAMMING.
JUST A REMINDER OF THE FOUR DIFFERENT PROGRAMS THAT WE DO.
ARTS ON CAMPUS IS OUR, UM, PROGRAM THAT WE RUN AFTER SCHOOL AS THE 10 NATIONAL SCHOOL DISTRICT SCHOOLS AS WELL AS SOME CHULA VISTA SCHOOLS, BUT IT'S ALSO THE CAMPS THAT WE HOLD IN OUR SPACE.
SO THIS LAST SUMMER WE HOSTED 200 STUDENTS A DAY FROM THE NATIONAL SCHOOL DISTRICT AND CHULA VISTA ELEMENTARY SCHOOL DISTRICT TO CAMP.
SO WE LOVE TO HAVE OUR SPACE REALLY FILLED.
OUR ARTS AT WORK PROGRAM IS OUR PAID INTERNSHIPS, OPPORTUNITIES FOR STUDENTS WORK.
THEY GET PAID, THEY GET STIPENDS, AND THEY GET TO CREATE PUBLIC ART PROJECTS LIKE THE, UM, SWEETWATER SPIGOT THAT WE HAD HERE FROM, UM, AN OPENING LAST YEAR.
OUR ARTS FOR JUSTICE PROGRAM IS OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH THE JUVENILE COURT AND COMMUNITY SCHOOL SYSTEM.
THEY HAVE A SITE HERE, UM, ALONG NATIONAL CITY BOULEVARD WHERE THEIR STUDENTS COME AND DO ART PROJECTS WITH US.
THE STUDENTS FROM THE SEC REC SIDE ACTUALLY CREATED THAT MURAL FOR KIMBALL ELEMENTARY AND THEY DONATED TO THE STUDENTS THERE ARTS PROGRAM, WHICH IS, UM, AS YOU KNOW, OUR FREE AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAM WE'RE CURRENTLY OPEN.
SO IF THERE'S THINGS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEND US, WE MEET TWICE A WEEK, IT'S FREE OF CHARGE AND WE WORK ON SEWING MURALS, UM, THE SCULPTURE AND MUSIC PROJECTS, AND THEN WE GET TO SHOWCASE THEM ALL AT A THIRD FESTIVAL THAT, UM, WE WERE GLADLY UM, WE RECEIVED YOU THERE LAST, EARLIER THIS YEAR.
SO WE JUST WANTED TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT OF STUDENT VOICE ABOUT, UH, WHAT THEY SAY ABOUT THE WORK THAT IS HAPPENING AT ARTS.
AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS MEANINGFUL CONNECTION, A SAFE PLACE FOR THESE KIDDOS TO BE IN CONNECT LEARNING, WORKFORCE READINESS, BUT ALSO HAVING A SAFE PLACE AND A HEALTHY CHOICE, UM, A SAFE PLACE TO BE AND A PLACE TO MAKE HEALTHY CHOICES AND CONNECT TO THEIR PASSION.
SO WHAT WE HEAR FROM STUDENTS IS THEY ARE SUPER CONNECTED TO
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OUR TRAUMA-INFORMED TEACHING ARTISTS, THAT THEY'RE CONNECTED TO A PASSION THAT THEY DIDN'T OTHERWISE.UM, THEY EXPERIENCE SOMETHING THEY WOULDN'T OTHERWISE HAVE EXPERIENCED AND THEY GET TO BE IN A SAFE PLACE, A THIRD LOCATION THAT'S NOT SCHOOL OR HOME TO, TO BE WITH THEIR PEERS.
THIS ONE WAS A VIDEO THAT WE DIDN'T GET TO PLAY, BUT IT'S A, A REALLY COOL COLLABORATION THAT WE GOT TO DO WITH THE COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT, THE, UM, 50 AND BETTER GROUP FROM THE SENIOR CENTER.
SO OUR STUDENTS FROM THE COMMUNITY ARTS PROGRAM WORKED TOGETHER WITH THE FABS ON CREATING AN ART PIECE THAT CONSISTED OF FOUR DIFFERENT SESSIONS WHERE THEY INTERVIEW THEM AND LEARN ABOUT THEIR, LIKE, PAST STORIES AND WHAT INSPIRE THEM.
AND THEN CREATED SOMETHING TOGETHER THAT WILL NOW BE DISPLAYED AT THE NEW SENIOR CENTER, UM, DOWN THE STREET.
AND THEN HERE, WE JUST WANNA THANK YOU BOTH FOR, UM, JOINING US.
THANK YOU MAYOR RON MAR, YOU'RE RIGHT THERE ON OUR YOUTH ARTS FESTIVAL FROM EARLIER THIS SEASON.
IT WAS LOVELY TO HAVE YOUR PRESENCE AND SEE THE STUDENTS ENGAGING WITH YOU AND JUST SITTING LIKE SEEING THE CITY SHOW UP FOR THEM AND WHAT THEY CREATE.
UM, SAME WITH OUR, UM, 25 YEAR ANNIVERSARY.
WE ARE THANKFUL FOR THE PROCLAMATION THAT WE RECEIVED AND JUST FOR, UM, BEING SO SUPPORTIVE OF OUR WORK AND OUR STEWARDSHIP.
AFTER 25 YEARS OF DOING THIS WORK, WE'RE PROUD TO CONTINUE AND WE'D LOVE TO SEE THIS PARTNERSHIP GROWING.
WE ALSO WANTED TO SHARE VERY QUICKLY ABOUT SOME RENOVATIONS WE'RE DOING IN THE BUILDING.
UM, WE RECEIVED A GRANT TO PUT NEW FLOORING THROUGH THE BUILDING AS WELL AS PAINT OF THE INTERIOR, INCLUDING THE FIVE CLASSROOMS. SOME UPCOMING RENOVATIONS NEXT MONTH INCLUDE A DA COMPLIANT DOORS, UM, THE NEW AV SYSTEM IN THE VA ROOM AND A NEW SINK INSTALLED IN THE STUDENT LOUNGE THAT CAN HANDLE ALL THE PAINT THAT STUDENTS POUR DOWN THE SINK
SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
UM, AND WE ALSO WANTED TO THANK, UM, THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY AND SDCW FOR OUR BEAUTIFUL UPGRADED LANDSCAPE PROJECT THAT'S HAPPENING IN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING AND STILL CONTINUES ON.
IT'S MADE A HUGE DIFFERENCE TO THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
WE'D LIKE TO ALSO, UM, INVITE YOU TO SAVE THE DATE FOR THE
THAT'S GONNA BE THE UPCOMING FRIDAY, OCTOBER 30TH FROM FIVE TO 8:00 PM WE SAY EIGHT, BUT SOMETIMES PEOPLE ARE HAVING SUCH A GOOD TIME THAT IT LASTS TILL NINE OR 10.
WE'LL TRY TO CUT IT SHORT THIS TIME.
UM, THIS IS A REALLY AMAZING CELEBRATION THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IN COLLABORATION WITH Y'ALL FOR AT LEAST FIVE YEARS, PROBABLY MORE.
UM, WE'RE HAPPY TO SEE THIS EVENT GROWING.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE POTENTIAL OF PARTNERING AND AND DOING THIS EVEN BIGGER NEXT YEAR.
SO WE'RE OPEN, BUT THE DATA IS SAFE.
SO PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU CAN STOP BY.
SO WE JUST WANTED TO SHARE WITH Y'ALL AND TO THE COMMUNITY TO THINK OF ARTS AS A PLACE WHERE CREATIVITY, COMMUNITY AND COLLABORATION COME TOGETHER, WHERE WE'RE CREATING SAFE SPACES FOR KIDS AND WORKING WITH THE CITY TO MAKE SURE WE ARE UTILIZING THIS RESOURCE THAT YOU'RE SO GRACIOUSLY GRANTING US, UH, IN THE BEST WAY POSSIBLE.
SO WE'VE MET DOUG AND MIKE AND THEY'VE BEEN INCREDIBLE, UM, STEWARDS AND, AND CONNECTORS FOR US.
SO WE'RE LOOKING JUST FROM THIS POINT TO GROW EVEN MORE.
AND WE WANTED TO SHOW YOU ALL OF THE PARTNERS THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY IN COLLABORATION WITH SO THAT, UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT WE'RE WORKING REALLY HARD TO USE THIS RESOURCE AND BRING IN MORE TALENTED AND TREASURE TO MAKE SURE OUR STUDENTS AND FAMILIES HAVE THE BEST SERVICE POSSIBLE, UM, TO CONNECT TO THE ARTS.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
WE ARE VERY, VERY GRATEFUL FOR ALL THAT YOU GIVE US IN OUR, IN OUR PARTNERSHIP, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO THAT GROWING.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR NATIONAL CITY.
SO I'VE NEVER MET A FRIEND OR GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO ARE PROUDER OF THEIR CITY AND I'M SUPER, SUPER GLAD TO BE HERE.
OKAY, NEXT WE GO INTO MAY WE HAVE ONE PUBLIC SPEAKER ON THIS ITEM.
DID NOT, UH, CESAR JAVIER CAAR IN
WHEN WE READ, WE READ THE, UH, STATEMENT, A REASON TO SURVIVE UNWELL REPORT, REASON TO SURVIVE.
THIS IS A VERY HEARTENING, UH, MESSAGE.
AND, UH, WE VOLUNTEERED TO SAY SOMETHING.
UH, YOU SEE IT ENLIGHTENS OUR, OUR PRAYER THAT INDEED THERE IS AN INTELLIGENCE
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THAT WOULD PROBABLY FOCUS OR TARGETS THE, UH, THE CHALLENGE OF THE TIME, FOR INSTANCE, ARTS TO PUSH OR PULL OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS TO SOLVE TOGETHER THE ISSUE OF BORDER POLLUTION.AND, UH, PLEASE STATE TO THE SUBJECT THAT I HAVE STILL 51.
YEAH, BUT BUT YOU HAVE TO SPEAK TO THE SUBJECT.
ONE OF THE INTELLIGENCES YEAH.
AND WHAT I AM SAYING, SIR, TO ALL OF US ELECTED OFFICIAL IS FOR THE ARTS EXPERTS NOW TO EXPRESS SOMETHING THAT WOULD PUSH OR PULL OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS ON THE MORAL DIMENSION TO ADDRESS THE PRIORITY.
LET'S BRING HEALTH AND SAFETY TO OUR PEOPLE, THE ART TO ENSURE THAT, UH, DOMESTIC TRANQUILITY IS THERE.
BECAUSE THAT IS A PROCESS OF GOVERNMENT, SIR.
THAT WAS WAS THAT WAS TAUGHT IN US.
THAT WAS THE ONLY SPEAKER WE HAD.
[8.REGIONAL BOARDS AND COMMITTEE REPORTS ]
REGIONAL BOARD AND COMMITTEE REPORTS.I'LL START DOWN HERE ON MY LEFT.
MAYOR MEMBER, YOU MIND? UH, NOTHING TO REPORT.
SANDAG IS ON A BREAK IN AUGUST.
AND, UH, I HAVE A SUM TOTAL OF NOTHING TO REPORT ON THOSE ALSO TO SAY MAYOR.
HUH? WE'RE GOING BACK TO MEETINGS.
YEAH, WE'RE GOING BACK TO MEETINGS NOW AGAIN.
SO, YOU KNOW WHAT I DO? I, I FORGOT.
I I DO HAVE, UM, I, I APOLOGIZE.
IT DID HAVE AN AIR POLLUTION CONTROL DISTRICT, UH, A BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING AND WE APPOINTED THE ALTERNATES TO THE, UH, COMMUNITY, UH, POSITION.
AND MAYOR, WE DO HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.
AND THAT IS CESAR UH, JAVIER, EQUITY JUSTICE.
WE HAVE BEEN ROOMING AROUND TRYING TO RESEARCH, LEARN AND CONTRIBUTE IN THE SOLUTION OF SURVIVABILITY HUMANS.
WE SEE EACH OTHER IN PUBLIC MEETINGS.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO EMPHASIZE THIS, THAT THERE IS ONE PERSON HERE ACCOUNTABLE, A MEMBER OF THE GOVERNING BOARD, AIR POLLUTION CONTROL DISTRICT.
WE NEED US TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU HAVE LEARNED AND WHAT SOLUTION YOU COULD CONTRIBUTE TO THE VICTIMS OF ENVIRONMENTAL HAZARDS.
THAT'S THE ONE THAT MAKES US DISEASE OR
THE AIR WE BREATH, THE THINGS WE TOUCH, THE WATER, THE FLUID WE DRINK.
THE FOOD WE EAT, WHAT MORE THAT'S WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO EXPRESS IN ARTS ON HOW FOR US TO DO THAT MORAL OBLIGATION.
WE ELECTED YOU ONCE UPON A TIME.
QUIET, JUST WORK, WORK, WORK, WORK, WORK.
AND ONLY TO FIND OUT THAT MOM, MOM, YOUR MONEY.
YOU HAVEN'T SAID ANYTHING YET ON THE INVESTIGATION OF COMMUNITY ORGANIZERS, LEADERS WHOSE MISSION IN THE COMMUNITY IS TO, TO FUNDRAISE, FUNDRAISE, FUNDRAISE.
AND THEN SUDDENLY THE MONEY IS GONE.
TELL THE PUBLIC WHAT COULD WE DO TO HELP YOU? SIR? SIR BUSH, WE WOULD LIKE TO HELP YOU.
YOU WERE THERE AT THE ENVIRONMENTAL MEETING AND YOU SAID THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT.
[9.CONSENT CALENDAR]
WE GO TO CONSENT CALENDARS, ITEMS NINE ONE THROUGH NINE 11.DO WE HAVE REQUESTS ON ANY OF THOSE? YES.
I HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT FROM THOMAS RECH ON 9.2 3 4 8, 9, 10,
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AND 11.ALRIGHT, UH, ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING? IF NOT, LIKE, I HAVE A MOTION FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
THAT'D BE ITEMS 9, 1, 5, 6, AND SEVEN.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? CAN YOU PUSH YOUR BUTTONS PLEASE? IT'S NOT WORKING.
IF WE COULD PUSH NOW THE SECOND IT'S NOT WORKING.
SO, MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER YAMANI IS SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER BUSH.
THESE, WERE BACK TO THESE, WERE BACK TO PRESIDENT ANYWAY,
WHAT'S HAPPENING? OKAY, LET'S DO IT AGAIN.
UH, NEXT IS, UH, SIR, COME ON UP.
[9.2.Fourth Amendment with San Diego Mechanical and Energy, Inc. for Facilities HVAC and Related Services]
NINE TWO IS OUR FOURTH AMENDMENT TO THE SAN DIEGO MECHANICAL AND ENGINEERING INCORPORATED FOR FACILITIES, HVAC, AND RELATED SERVICES.I JUST WANT TO INFORM THE PEOPLE OF THE EXPENSE OF THIS, OF THE AIR HEATING, AIR CONDITIONING.
HVAC IS HEATING AND AIR CONDITIONING AND IT'S, AND IT'S ONE, IT'S $1.4 MILLION FOR TWO YEARS OR SEVEN OR SEVEN OR 700,000 FOR ONE YEAR.
'CAUSE NOW WE GO NINE THREE, WE'RE JUST GOING TO, I THINK HE'S THE ONLY SPEAKER ON ALL THESE, RIGHT? YES.
SO WE'RE GONNA GO DOWN AND LET YOU SPEAK ON EACH ONE OF 'EM AND THEN WE'LL VOTE ON, UH, HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE ON A BLOCKER INDIVIDUALLY IF YOU WANT TO.
[9.3 Fourth Amendment to the Agreement with Southwest Traffic Signal Service, Inc. for Traffic Signal and Streetlight Maintenance Services]
THREE, WHICH IS THE FOURTH AMENDMENT TO THE AGREEMENT WITH SOUTHWEST TRAFFIC SIGNAL SERVICES FOR TRAFFIC SIGNAL AND STREETLIGHT MAINTENANCE SERVICES.I JUST WANNA SAY THAT THE SOUTHWEST TRAFFIC SIGNAL SERVICE IS RESPONSE HAS, DOES THIR 80 TRAFFIC SIGNALS AND 736 STREET LIGHTS FOR 1.4 MILLION FOR TWO YEARS OR $700,000 A YEAR.
[9.4.Fourth Amendments to Extend Terms of the On-Call Consultant Agreements for City’s Capital Improvement Program (CIP)]
GO TO NINE FOUR, WHICH IS THE FOURTH AMENDMENT TO EX EXTEND TERMS OF THE ON-CALL CONSULTANT AGREEMENTS FOR CITY CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT.OKAY, THIS IS NINE FOUR AND THIS IS THE NINO NIO MORE GEOTECHNICAL ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICE.
THIS IS, THEY'RE GIVING A SIX MONTHS EXTENSION AND THEY HAVE A 2 MILLION, $2 MILLION CONTRACT FOR THREE YEARS.
$666,000 A YEAR AND A SIX MONTHS EXTENSION FOR 333,000.
[Items 9.8 - 9.11]
DOWN TO THE WARRANT REGISTRIES.UH, I'M GONNA DO THESE BACKWARDS.
ALRIGHT, HERE'S THE, HERE'S HERE'S THE, THE ONES THAT I THINK ARE IMPORTANT.
UH, THEY PUT A ROOF ON THE FIREHOUSE STATION 34 FOR $87,000 BY THE PRE FREEMAN FREEMAN ROOFING COMPANY.
THE ENGINEERING AND PUBLIC WORKS FOR A AND P CALIFORNIA FOR THE NATIONAL CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT IS 188,000 TOTAL FOR THE BUILD OUT FOR THE BUILDING.
NOW THAT'S A NEW BUILDING OVER THERE.
UH, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'LL SAY ON THAT.
AND THE IT DELL MARKETING, $73,000.
REPRESENTATION, 145,000 CITY ATTORNEY HAD LEGAL SERVICES FOR 96,000 FOR
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REGISTER.51 51 AND, AND WARREN REGISTER.
51 ENGINEERING PUBLIC WORKS PROJECTS PROFESSIONAL AT 15 PROJECTS FOR A TOTAL OF 92,000.
UH, THE BAYSHORE PARKWAY, $87,000 FOR THE, FOR THE GRIFFITH COMPANY.
FOR WORKMAN STATION REPLENISHMENT.
8,200, 12,000 FOR EDMOND, SHE FOUNDATION FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, ACCENT ENTERPRISES, 10 TASERS, $49,000.
YOU MIGHT SHOOT SOMEONE WITH A 22.
ENGINEERING FUEL FOR THE CITY, CITY FLEET.
UH, THE BURTON PIPELINE SEWER UPSIZING 534,000.
AND DICK MILLER CONSTRUCTION, THE TOY AND PARK FOR 190,000.
UH, IF IT IS YOUR PLEASURE, WE CAN DO THOSE TOGETHER.
UH, WHICH WOULD BE 9, 2 3 4, UH, 8, 9, 10, AND 11.
WE HAVE A MOTION, WE HAVE A SECOND.
THIS THING'S REALLY GOING CRAZY.
IT'S GOT A MOTION BY CONNO AND A SECOND BY MORRISON.
WELL, NO, THAT THERE'RE SHOWING DIFFERENT, MINE'S GOING CRAZY.
I'M GETTING ALL KIND OF ERROR MESSAGES OVER HERE.
LET'S, LET'S PUT THIS THING THROUGH.
COUNCIL MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
UM, THE, UH, OKAY, NEXT, UH, WE
[10.1 League of California Cities Annual Conference – Designation on Voting Delegate and Alternate(s)]
GO ON TO STAFF REPORTS.OUR FIRST ONE IS THE LEAGUE OF CITIES.
UH, THE ANNUAL CONFERENCE IS THE DESIGNATION OF A VOTING DELEGATE AND, UH, AND ALTERNATE OR ALTERNATES AND, OKAY.
ITS MAYOR, CITY CLERK UP THERE,
THE, UH, UM, ITEM BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS FOR THE LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITY'S ANNUAL CONFERENCE DESIGNATING, UH, A VOTING DELEGATE OR ALTERNATES AND OR ALTERNATES.
THIS IS TO VOTE ON ITEMS THAT ARE AT THE BUSINESS MEETING ON FRIDAY.
IT'S USUALLY HELD ON THE FRIDAY AT THE, THE CONFERENCE.
AND, UH, GENERALLY THE MAYOR WILL APPOINT AND THE COUNCIL WILL APPOINT, UM, ONE OR TWO REPRESENTATIVES TO, UH, REPRESENT THE CITY.
I'M NOT TOO SURE IF ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PLANNING ON GOING UP THERE THIS YEAR.
THE CHAIR WHO WENT LAST YEAR, WE, HUH? WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T GO.
I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAD ANYONE LAST YEAR.
WELL, I KNOW, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAD SAID ANYONE.
'CAUSE YOU CAN NOT GO TO THE CONFERENCE, BUT YOU CAN GO TO THE ADMIN MEETING.
SO NOBODY, BUT I'M NOT TOO SURE.
I DON'T THINK, I DON'T THINK WE HAD ANYONE.
YEAH, I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAD ANYONE LAST YEAR.
I KNOW THE CITY MANAGER IS PLANNING ON GOING UP THIS YEAR ALSO.
HE'S GOING, I, YEAH, I CAN'T GET AWAY FOR THE WHOLE THING, BUT I KNOW I'M PROBABLY GONNA DRIVE UP THERE THURSDAY NIGHT AND BE COMING RIGHT BACK DOWN, BUT JUST FOR A, UH, ONE OCCASION THERE AND, UH, BUT, BUT I WON'T BE THERE FOR THE, FOR THE BUSINESS MEETING.
UM, SO WITH THAT, I MEAN, BUT WE CAN DESIGNATE THE CITY MANAGER TO, UH, UH, TO BE THE, THE VOTING MEMBER FOR THE CITY.
WE HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION SECOND, BUT BEFORE WE VOTE ON THAT PUBLIC COMMENT, SO IS THAT FOR, UM, A, UM, A DESIGNATED REPRESENTATIVE AND AN ALTERNATE OR JUST THE REPRESENTATIVE? WELL, WE DON'T HAVE A SECOND PERSON, SO WE ONLY HAVE ONE PERSON GOING UP, SO, OKAY.
I CAN, I WAS, UH, POTENTIALLY INTERESTED IN GOING, SO I JUST NEED TO CONFIRM MY CALENDAR, BUT I CAN BE AN ALTERNATE.
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WHO MADE, WHO MADE THE MOTION ON THAT ONE? AS LONG AS WE HAVE SOMEONE AT THE VOTE TO VOTE FOR THAT FRIDAY.'CAUSE THAT THERE MAY BE AN ALTERNATE, SO THEN I CAN, OKAY, SO CITY MANAGER CAN VOTE THEN.
AND WHO WAS THE, UH, CESAR JAVIER? OKAY, THIS IS ABOUT THE VOTING DELEGATE FOR THE LEAGUE OF CITIES.
AND, UH, WHAT AM I TO TALK NOW? 10.1, 10.9, 10.1.
THIS IS, THIS IS JUST DESIGNATING A VOTING MEMBER FOR THIS, UH, LEAGUE OF CITIES FOR THEIR, THEIR, UH, BUSINESS MEETING.
OUR CONTRIBUTION THIS AFTERNOON SERVES, UH, MOMS IS OUR EXPERIENCE IN THE PROCESS OF GOVERNANCE, COUNTY, CITY, AIR POLLUTION, CONTROL, DISTRICT SAND.
THESE ARE LESSONS AND, UH, THIS, UH, ELECTION, OR SORRY, THE DELEGATES, CONFERENCES, ELECTED OFFICIALS TO US IS, HOW DO WE SAY IT? RATIONAL, HEALTHY, BECAUSE IT IS A COMMUNION OF THINKERS WHO KEEP ON IMPROVING, IMPROVING IN GOVERNANCE.
IF I MAY SAY THAT IN OUR ENGLISH LANGUAGE AND WE FAVOR THIS, WE STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS AND YOU KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING AND WE KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING.
LOYALTY IS NOT ON OUR CONSTITUTION, BUT RATHER TO A PERSON, TO A GROUP OF PERSON.
BLUE, RED, GREEN, WHICH WE STRONGLY RECOMMEND.
MORALLY WE SHOULD BE FOCUSED ON OUR CONSTITUTION.
IT'S THERE WORKING TOGETHER TO FORM A PERFECT UNION TO ENSURE JUSTICE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT, OUR FIRES.
I HAVE MORE TO SAY SIR, BUT THANK YOU.
UM, OKAY, SO WE DO HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
I DO BELIEVE YOU COULD PUSH YOUR BUTTONS.
ALL IS IT NOT WORKING IS, NO, I'M GONNA TRY IT AGAIN.
IF YOU COULD PUSH THE MOTION IN A SECOND.
OH, HERE COMES THE, HERE COMES THE, UH, ARE YOU ABLE TO PUSH IT TO VOTE? ALL THE STUFF.
YEAH, NO CON WAS STILL IN OUR SYSTEM.
WE'RE GETTING, WE'RE GETTING ALL THE MISTAKE DEALS OR DECALS ARE COMING UP HERE NOW.
[10.2 165 Presentation of Tyler Technologies’ Priority Based Budgeting Solution and Services]
UH, 10.2.THIS IS A PRESENTATION OF TYLER TECHNOLOGIES' PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING SOLUTION AND SERVICES.
UH, CITY MANAGER OR YOU WANNA YES, I'LL INTRODUCE, INTRODUCE ON THIS ONE.
UH, SO THE COUNCIL IS, UM, ASKED TO RECEIVE THE PRESENTATION, UM, REGARDING THE TYLER TECHNOLOGIES PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING SOFTWARE SOLUTION AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT AMENDING, UH, AMENDMENT WITH TYLER TECHNOLOGIES TO ADD THE PRIORITY BASE BUDGETING MODULE, UM, IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $250,000.
UM, AS THE COUNCIL KNOWS, UH, FROM THE, UH, INTERVIEW PROCESS AND ONGOING CONVERSATIONS,
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UH, PRIOR TO BASE BUDGETING IS SOMETHING THAT I HAD, UH, FIRST EXPERIENCE WITH, UM, IN BAINBRIDGE ISLAND, WASHINGTON.UH, CHRIS WAS, UM, I THINK MAYBE A COUPLE YEARS INTO, UH, FORMING THAT NEW COMPANY AND LAUNCHING IT.
SO, UM, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ONE OF HIS FIRST CLIENTS.
AND IF WE HAD NOT GONE THROUGH THE PRIOR PRIORITY BUDGETING PROCESS, UH, THERE WOULD BE NO WAY THAT CITY WOULD'VE BEEN ABLE TO GO FROM NEAR BANKRUPTCY TO AAA BOND RATING IN FIVE YEARS.
UM, I USED TO TELL PEOPLE THERE'S NO WAY THAT BAINBRIDGE ISLAND WAS GOING TO EVER RECEIVE AAA BOND RATING BECAUSE IT WAS JUST TOO SMALL.
IT DIDN'T HAVE THE ASSESSED VALUATION.
UM, BUT THROUGH THE USE OF PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING, UM, UPDATING OUR FINANCIAL POLICIES, BEST PRACTICES, UM, WE WERE ABLE TO ACHIEVE THAT.
AND, UM, I HAVE NO DOUBT WE CAN DO THAT HERE IN NATIONAL CITY.
SO, UH, CHRIS IS HERE TO, UH, PROVIDE SOME BACKGROUND ON PRIOR TO BASE BUDGETING.
UM, HERE'S A DEMO, UH, THAT WILL HELP THE COUNCIL BETTER UNDERSTAND, UH, EXACTLY WHAT, WHAT THIS IS AND HOW, HOW WE CAN USE IT HERE TO, UM, SOLVE SOME OF OUR, OUR STRUCTURAL BUDGET DEFICIT.
UM, I'M TRYING TO GET PERMISSION TO SHARE.
I'M ON THE ZOOM ND PERHAPS HAND RAISED FULL HAND.
ARE YOU ABLE TO SHARE FOR YOUR HELP? ONE MOMENT.
ATTENDEE IN THAT PANEL WITH MY HAND UP.
THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL, UH, STAFF AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC FOR HAVING ME.
UH, MY NAME IS CHRIS FABIAN AND IS MY PLEASURE TO BE IN YOUR COMMUNITY TO TALK ABOUT PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING AND HOW IT'S BEEN USED, UH, BY LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AND STATE GOVERNMENTS ACROSS THE UNITED STATES AND NOW INTO CANADA.
UM, SINCE THE EARLY DAYS WHEN I HAD THE PRIVILEGE TO SERVE, UH, YOUR CITY MANAGER IN THE CITY OF BAINBRIDGE ISLAND, AND NOW OVER 300, UH, COMMUNITIES SINCE THEN.
UM, I'M HERE WITH MY COLLEAGUE TODAY, JASON FRANK, WHO'S IN THE AUDIENCE.
UH, WE REPRESENT TYLER TECHNOLOGIES, UH, WHICH IS THE, UH, PLACE WHERE I WORK AND BRING PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING TO MANY MORE COMMUNITIES.
UM, PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING IS A METHODOLOGY.
IT IS A WAY OF UNDERSTANDING THE BUDGET AND IN THESE, UH, VERY TOUGH TIMES THAT YOU'RE GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW.
UM, THEY ARE NOT, UH, TOO DIFFERENT FROM WHAT I EXPERIENCED IN THE GREAT RECESSION WHEN I FIRST BUILT PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING AS A LOCAL GOVERNMENT PRACTITIONER AND A PUBLIC SERVANT MYSELF, TO SERVE MY BOARD, TO SERVE MY STAFF AND MY COMMUNITY WITHIN, UH, COUNTY GOVERNMENT IN COLORADO, WHERE I WAS THE ISSUE, UH, BACK DURING THE GREAT RECESSION, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT BACK THEN WAS THE THIS FEELING OF RESOURCE SCARCITY, NOT ENOUGH RESOURCES TO FUND THE VITAL SERVICES THAT WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO FUND FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS.
UM, PERHAPS LIKE YOURSELVES FACE THIS EXCRUCIATING CONUNDRUM, UH, TO DETERMINE HOW IN THE WORLD TO, UH, RESULT IN A BALANCED BUDGET.
AND THE, THE QUESTIONS BEFORE THEM WERE SUCH THAT YOU'RE FACING RIGHT NOW.
SHOULD WE DO AN ACROSS THE BOARD, UH, BUDGET REDUCTION TO ALL DEPARTMENTS AND ALL SERVICES? UM, SHOULD WE ASK THE RESIDENTS FOR MORE RESOURCES? HOW IN THE WORLD ARE WE SUPPOSED TO BALANCE THIS BUDGET? AND IN MY OPINION, ABSENT FROM OUR CONVERSATION BACK THEN IN 2008, WAS A DIFFERENT PATH.
UH, A DIFFERENT UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT ARE THE PRIORITIES OF OUR ORGANIZATION?
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WHAT WOULD WE PRESERVE IN ORDER TO AVOID? AND ACROSS THE BOARD, CUT THE QUESTION, THE CURIOSITY.UH, WHAT MIGHT WE BE ABLE TO DO BY WAY OF PARTNERSHIPS? ARE THERE OTHER GOVERNMENTS? ARE THERE OTHER JURISDICTIONS WHO ARE DOING THINGS DIFFERENTLY THAN WE ARE? AND HOW WOULD WE BE ABLE TO GET THAT DATA? AND FROM THAT MOMENT, WAS BORN A METHODOLOGY TO UNDERSTAND ALL OF THE PROGRAMS AND SERVICES THAT WE OFFER, THE COSTS OF DELIVERING THOSE PROGRAMS, THEIR ALIGNMENT OR LACK THEREOF WITH THE PRIORITIES OF OUR COMMUNITY.
UH, AND ULTIMATELY, UM, UH, A, A A RATIONAL WAY TO MAKE THE MOST IMPORTANT DECISIONS IN THE TOUGHEST OF TIMES.
SINCE THEN, I LEFT, UH, JEFFERSON COUNTY, THAT WAS ABOUT 2008, TO BRING THIS PRACTICE OUT TO MORE AND MORE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.
UH, SO IT WAS BORN IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND, UH, THEN BECAME THE BENEFIT OF, UH, ORGANIZATIONS ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
UH, THAT'S WHERE I MET DOUG AND BAINBRIDGE ISLAND.
UM, WE BUILT A PRACTICE THAT WAS ULTIMATELY RECOGNIZED BY THE INTERNATIONAL CITY AND COUNTY MANAGERS ASSOCIATION AS A LEADING PRACTICE FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, THE GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION, UH, AS PART OF THEIR CENTRAL TO THEIR BUDGETING PRACTICES TODAY.
UH, AND THE RETHINKING BUDGETING INITIATIVE, UM, USHERED ACROSS THE, UH, INDUSTRY AS WE KNOW IT, UH, AND NOW OVER 300 LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.
UM, I ULTIMATELY SOLD THE BUSINESS THAT I STARTED TO TYLER TECHNOLOGIES, AND WE WERE ACQUIRED, UH, BUT I REMAIN ABSOLUTELY DEDICATED TO THE CAUSE.
UM, THIS WAS THE MISSION THAT I STARTED WITH AS A PUBLIC SERVANT.
AND THE REASON I GOT INTO THIS WORK, AND THAT'S WHY I'M STILL HERE.
UH, THAT WAS IN 2023 WHEN WE BECAME PART OF TYLER.
UM, AND NOW THE POINT OF JOINING TYLER TECHNOLOGIES, UH, WAS TO BRING THIS PRACTICE TO SCALE.
BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, AT THIS TIME, ALL OF OUR CLIENTS ARE FACING TOUGH BUDGET TIMES, AND WE NEED A, A RATIONAL METHODOLOGY AND A DATA SET TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE IT.
SO I RECOGNIZE, UH, THE GAP THAT YOU FACE, THE PRESSURES THAT YOU ALL FACE AS DECISION MAKERS AND LEADERS OF THIS ORGANIZATION AND MEMBERS OF THIS COMMUNITY IS REAL.
UH, AND I'M HERE TODAY TO BRING YOU KNOWLEDGE AND EDUCATION OF A PROCESS THAT CAN PROVE HOPEFUL IN THE FACE OF THE DIRE CHALLENGES THAT YOU FACE TODAY.
UM, WHAT IS IT THAT PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING ACTUALLY DOES? THIS IS AN ILLUSTRATION, UH, NOT UNLIKE THE SERVICES THAT YOU PROVIDE, WHERE ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, YOU SEE WHAT, WHAT MOST ORGANIZATIONS HAVE, AND THAT'S A, AN EXAMPLE OF A DEPARTMENT, A PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.
AND FOR MOST OF OUR ORGANIZATIONS, YOU DO KNOW THE DEPARTMENTS YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, THEIR OPERATING BUDGET, THEIR CAPITAL BUDGETS, OF COURSE YOU DO.
AND YOU KNOW, THEIR, THEIR LINE ITEMS WITHIN THE BUDGET.
THINGS LIKE SALARIES, PERSONNEL SUPPLIES, CONTRACTS, EQUIPMENT, AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
AND THE LINE ITEM BUDGET SERVES ITS PURPOSE.
WE HAVE TO KNOW WHAT IS APPROPRIATED, WHAT ARE, UM, SPENDING CONTROLS, UH, AND ULTIMATELY IS THE MONEY THAT YOU ALL HAVE, UM, UH, DESIGNATED OR APPROPRIATED BEING SPENT THE RIGHT WAY.
AND THAT IS THE ACCOUNTANT'S LENS ON, UH, THE BUDGET AS WE KNOW IT.
HOWEVER, WHAT WE RECOGNIZED IN PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING IS WITH THE ACCOUNTING DATA DOWN TO THE LINE ITEM LEVEL, IT IS NOT EASY.
AND SOMETIMES, UH, ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO ANSWER SOME BASIC QUESTIONS LIKE, WHAT SERVICES DO WE ACTUALLY PROVIDE IN THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT AND WHAT DO THEY COST? IF YOU ASKED A QUESTION AROUND WHAT DOES IT COST THE CITY TO DO STREET SWEEPING, AND YOU TURN TO YOUR LINE ITEM BUDGET, WHICH CONTAINS SALARIES AND SUPPLIES AND CONTRACTS, NOWHERE IN THE LINE ITEM BUDGET, IS IT EASY TO BE ABLE TO FIND HOW MUCH DO WE SPEND ON A PROGRAM LIKE STREET SWEEPING OR TRAFFIC SIGNALS OR FLEET MAINTENANCE OR STORM DRAIN CLEANING? AND ABSENT THAT INFORMATION, HOW ARE YOU TO DECIDE, HOW CAN WE DECIDE WHAT PROGRAMS WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO FOCUS ON? WHAT PROGRAMS WE'RE GOING TO PRESERVE, WHAT PROGRAMS WE MIGHT LOOK FOR OTHER OPTIMIZATION OPPORTUNITIES? SO THE FIRST CLUE WAS WE HAD TO GRADUATE TOWARDS A PROGRAM AND SERVICE LEVEL UNDERSTANDING.
AND THAT WAS, THAT IS JUST NOT, UH, A PIECE OF INFORMATION THAT EVEN OUR ADOPTED BUDGETS OR STATE, UM, RECOGNIZED BUDGETS CONTAIN.
THAT'S THAT MIDDLE SECTION THERE.
UM, WE TOOK ONE STEP FURTHER AND WE SAID TO KNOW OUR PROGRAMS AND THE COST OF DELIVERY IS VERY IMPORTANT, BUT IT'S NOT THE END OF THE STORY.
WE MIGHT WANNA KNOW, DOES IT BRING IN REVENUE? WHAT'S THE, THE WORKFORCE, FTE, UH, THAT IT TAKES TO PROVIDE THE, THE PROGRAM? UM, WHAT ABOUT THIS PROGRAM IS MANDATED OR REQUIRED? ARE WE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE IT BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT? ARE WE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE IT BY STATE LAW? IS IT OUR OWN, UH,
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SELF-IMPOSED POLICIES THAT REQUIRE US TO PROVIDE A PROGRAM? WE WANT TO KNOW THAT ABOUT EVERY SINGLE PROGRAM AND SERVICE.AND FURTHERMORE, YOU MIGHT WANT TO KNOW, HOW ARE OTHER JURISDICTIONS PROVIDING THIS PROGRAM? HAS ANYBODY PARTNERED IN THE PROVISION OF THIS PROGRAM OVERALL? UM, ARE THERE ENTREPRENEURIAL, UH, ALTERNATIVE REVENUE SOURCES? ARE THERE GRANTS OUT THERE THAT CAN BE ATTAINED FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM? AND SO, AS YOU SEE OVER ON THE VERY RIGHT HAND SIDE, NOT ONLY DID WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT ARE THE PROGRAMS AND WHAT DO THEY COST, BUT WE WANTED TO KNOW ALL VARIETY OF, OF, UM, OTHER CRUCIAL DATA POINTS TO HELP US UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR OPTIONS ARE FOR EACH AND EVERY PROGRAM, UH, THAT WE PROVIDE ULTIMATELY.
THAT IS WHAT PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING DRIVES IS A FUNDAMENTALLY DIFFERENT UNDERSTANDING OF YOUR BUDGET.
A BUDGET TRANSLATED FROM LINE ITEMS TO THE PROGRAMS THAT YOU ARE PROVIDING, THE COST OF PROVIDING THOSE PROGRAMS AND THE RELATIONSHIP, OR LACK THEREOF WITH THE PRIORITIES THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE.
WELL, WHEN YOU HAVE THAT DATA, AND NOT TO GET TOO, UH, COMPLICATED OR OR GRANULAR HERE, UM, WHAT IT, WHAT IT ALLOWED US TO DO WAS COME UP WITH POLICY POSTURE, UH, TO HELP UNDERSTAND WHAT WE MIGHT DO DIFFERENTLY BESIDES ACROSS THE BOARD REDUCTIONS, UH, FOR EVERY SINGLE DEPARTMENT.
IF YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT AN ACROSS THE BOARD CUT ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE, IT TREATS ALL PROGRAMS, UH, OF THE SAME VALUE.
SO A 10% SWEEPING REDUCTION MIGHT BALANCE THE BUDGET, UM, BUT HAS LITTLE TO DO WITH UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT ABOUT OUR HIGHLY, UH, IMPACTFUL OR ALIGNED PROGRAMS VERSUS OTHERS THAT HAVE LESS TO DO WITH YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN OR WHAT THE COMMUNITY NEEDS.
WHAT ABOUT HIGHLY MANDATED PROGRAMS VERSUS PROGRAMS THAT ARE YOUR CHOICE? UM, THEY DON'T HAVE A STATE STATUTE.
THEY DON'T HAVE A FEDERAL REQUIREMENT.
WHAT ABOUT PROGRAMS THAT BRING IN THEIR OWN REVENUE? THEY HAVE A FEE FOR SERVICE OR A COST RECOVERY VERSUS PROGRAMS THAT ARE SUBSIDIZED BY YOUR SCARCE GENERAL GOVERNMENT RESOURCES.
AND WHEN WE CAN SEE ALL OF THE PROGRAMS ACROSS THE BOARD POSITIONED, UH, AS SUCH AND SCORED, WE KNOW WHICH PROGRAMS HAVE THE BEST OPPORTUNITY FOR PARTNERSHIPS.
WHICH PROGRAMS HAVE THE BEST OPPORTUNITY FOR EFFICIENCY? WHICH PROGRAMS HAVE THE GREATEST OPPORTUNITY FOR ALTERNATIVE REVENUE AND WHICH ONES DON'T, WHICH PROGRAMS ARE, UH, MOST APPROPRIATE FOR GENERAL FUND RESOURCES TO BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN FOR THE BENEFIT, UH, AND ENHANCEMENT OF OUTCOMES FOR THIS COMMUNITY? AND THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE HERE.
I THOUGHT IT'D BE VERY IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO, UH, NOTICE IN THIS CHART AS WELL, THAT OF THE 16 CATEGORIES, UM, ONLY TWO HAVE TO DO WITH SERVICE LEVEL REDUCTION.
WHAT WE FIND OVER AND OVER AGAIN FOR THE PROGRAMS THAT WE EVALUATE IS THAT SERVICE LEVEL REDUCTION DOES NOT HAVE TO BE YOUR FIRST CHOICE, NOR DOES ASKING THE PUBLIC FOR NEW RESOURCES.
THERE ARE EFFICIENCIES, THERE ARE ALTERNATIVE REVENUES.
IN FACT, UM, AS I GET TO THE THE NEXT SLIDE, EVERYTHING BESIDES CUTTING PROGRAMS OR ASKING FOR NEW REVENUES OPENS UP A THIRD PATH THAT IS LESS EXPLORED AND IT'S LESS EXPLORED.
BECAUSE OFTENTIMES WE DON'T HAVE THE PROGRAMMATIC OR SERVICE LEVEL DATA TO BE ABLE TO EXPLORE IT.
IF ALL YOU HAVE IS LINE ITEM DATA, YOU HAVE NO OPPORTUNITY TO ASK WHAT PROGRAMS COULD WE SHARE WITH A NEIGHBOR? WHAT PROGRAMS ARE ELIGIBLE FOR A GRANT? WHAT PROGRAMS COULD WE RUN WITH A PARTNER OR DO IT WITH FEWER STEPS? THE LINE ITEM DETAIL DOES NOT ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.
BUT IF WE HAVE THE PROGRAM LEVEL DETAIL FOR EACH AND EVERY PROGRAM THAT WE PROVIDE, WE OPEN UP THIS DOOR, WE OPEN UP OPTIONALITY TO, TO ACTUALLY KNOW WHERE YOU CAN REALLOCATE RESOURCES, OPTIMIZE RESOURCES, AND SURVIVE THE TYPE OF BUDGET DEFICIT THAT YOU FACE.
AND THIS IS ABSOLUTELY CRUCIAL.
SO AS YOU LOOK AT THIS SLIDE AND YOU'RE CONSIDERING, WOULDN'T WE LIKE TO KNOW? WOULDN'T WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT ALL OF OUR OPTIONS ARE FOR EVERY PROGRAM THAT WE PROVIDE? THIS IS WHAT PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING WILL BRING US.
UH, YOU TAKE A BASIC PROGRAM LIKE STREET SWEEPING.
THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE HERE ON THE SCREEN.
AND WHEN I AM TALKING ABOUT THESE, UH, ALTERNATIVES, THESE IDEAS TO CONSIDER PARTNERSHIPS OR ALTERNATIVE REVENUE, UM, WE GO ONE STEP FURTHER TO SAY, WELL, WHO HAS ACTUALLY DONE IT THIS WAY? I CAN IMAGINE FROM YOUR POINT OF VIEW, AS YOU HEAR ABOUT THE SERVICES THAT YOU'RE PROVIDING, AS YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT WHAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE TO BALANCE THE BUDGET, IT MIGHT CROSS YOUR MIND THAT YOU'RE WONDERING, WHO ELSE OUT THERE HAS CHARGED A AN ENTREPRENEURIAL OR A NOVEL FEE? WHO ELSE IS OUT THERE THAT HAS BROUGHT IN A GRANT THAT MAYBE THE CITY HAS NOT BEEN ABLE TO, UH, BRING IN THEMSELVES? CAN WE LEARN FROM THE BEST PRACTICES OF OTHER ORGANIZATIONS? IF YOU TAKE A PROGRAM LIKE STREET SWEEPING, I'M DEMONSTRATING HERE SIX, UH, EXAMPLES FROM OUR DATABASE FROM, UH, BOTH COST SAVINGS.
THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE IN THAT TOP, TOP ROW.
FRIDLEY MINNESOTA KEEPING A, A, UM, A GREAT APPROACH FOR OPTIMIZING
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THEIR CORE CREW FOR STREET SWEEPING VERSUS CONTRACTORS AT PEAK HOURS.ONE OF YOUR NEIGHBORS, SAN DIEGO, OF COURSE, ENFORCING NO PARKING RULES.
SO THERE'S FEWER PASSES NEEDED TO, TO STREET SWEEP THE STREETS, UH, MANKATO, MINNESOTA LARGER TRUCK REPLACEMENT CYCLE, SMARTER ROUTES, FLEET FLEET, UM, INNOVATION.
AND ON THE REVENUE ENHANCEMENT SIDE, UM, FROM BLOOMINGTON, MINNESOTA CHARGING, UH, MORE FOR COMMERCIAL OWNERS TO PAY FOR AN EXTRA LEVEL OF SERVICE FOR STREET SWEEPING.
THIS IS JUST STREET SWEEPING, RIGHT? I'M GOING DEEP ON ONE PARTICULAR PROGRAM, SACRAMENTO UP NORTH, UH, HAVING MORE OF AN ADOPT A A HIGHWAY, ADOPT A LOCAL STREET TYPE OF PROGRAM.
UM, AND PORTLAND, OREGON BEING SO NOVEL IS TO FUND IT THROUGH THEIR WATER UTILITY, THEIR STORMWATER SYSTEM, ACTUALLY, UM, RECOGNIZING THE CORRELATION BETWEEN STREET SWEEPING AND KEEPING DEBRIS, UH, OFF THE ROADS, UH, AND KEEPING THEIR STORMWATER SYSTEM HEALTHY, BEING ABLE TO, UM, CHARGE ENOUGH RESOURCES TO, UH, REDUCE ALL GENERAL FUND SUBSIDIZATION.
AND I'M SHARING THIS WITH YOU TO SAY, IF YOU NOTICE ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT OPTIONS, NONE OF THEM ARE A SERVICE LEVEL CUT, AND NONE OF THEM ARE A TAX INCREASE.
AND IF WE CAN DO IT FOR STREET SWEEPING, WE CAN DO IT FOR EVERY SINGLE PROGRAM IN PUBLIC WORKS.
WE CAN DO IT FOR EVERY SINGLE PROGRAM ACROSS THE ENTIRE CITY'S PORTFOLIO.
EVERY PROGRAM YOU OFFER WITH OPTIONS FOR COST SAVINGS AND ALTERNATIVE REVENUE CATEGORIZED BY THE PROGRAM'S LEVEL OF MANDATE, THE PROGRAM'S IMPACT ON YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN OUTCOMES AND DIRECTION ON WHAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO DIFFERENTLY FOR ALL OF THE PROGRAMS THAT YOU HAVE.
AND IT TURNS OUT HERE, UM, WITH THE, UH, THE BIT OF RESEARCH THAT I'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO, UH, AHEAD OF TIME, THAT YOU HAVE ALREADY FOLLOWED THIS APPROACH FOR NUMEROUS PROGRAMS. YOU TAKE STREET SWEEPING, YOU TAKE YOUR APPROACH FOR PARTNERING ON ANIMAL SHELTER, UH, WITH CHULA VISTA.
YOU LOOK AT, UM, RIGHT OF WAY CLEANUP AMONG OTHERS.
I'M DRAWING YOUR ATTENTION TO THE FACT THAT THIS, UH, APPROACH IS NOT NEW TO YOU.
BUT WHAT WE WILL BRING IS A SYSTEMATIC UNDERSTANDING FOR EVERY SINGLE PROGRAM, NOT JUST THE HANDFUL OF PROGRAMS THAT YOU'VE BEEN ABLE TO EXPLORE.
ALTERNATIVE SERVICE DELIVERY AND ALTERNATIVE FUNDING MODELS.
IT'S 100% OF THE PROGRAMS THAT YOU PROVIDE.
UM, THE BREAKTHROUGH ULTIMATELY IS GETTING TO THE, THE BASIC UNIT OF DECISION MAKING.
AND IN BUDGETING, THE REASON THAT PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING IS TAKEN HOLD AS A NATIONAL BEST PRACTICE IS BECAUSE WE HAVE MOVED THE DECIS THE DECISION UNIT FROM LINE ITEM BASED TO PROGRAM AND SERVICE LEVEL BASED, WHICH IS WHERE IT HAS TO BE IN ORDER TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS MOST VITAL TO YOU.
A LINE ITEM IS NOT YOUR MOST IMPORTANT PRIORITY.
A PROGRAM AND SERVICE OFFERED TO YOUR COMMUNITY, UH, ALIGNED WITH A SAFE COMMUNITY OR ECONOMIC VITALITY.
THE PROGRAM IS THE VITAL DECISION UNIT.
NOW, UM, YOUR CITY MANAGER, UH, DISCUSSED WHAT IT TOOK IN THE CITY OF BAINBRIDGE ISLAND, UH, WHEN WE WORKED THERE, UM, NOT TOO MANY YEARS AGO, BUT MANY YEARS AGO.
UH, AND THE PROCESS ITSELF, TO BUILD THIS DATA SET USED TO TAKE MANY MONTHS.
UH, IT WAS LABOR INTENSIVE, AND THAT MIGHT BE ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE ON YOUR MIND.
IT WAS CERTAINLY ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE HAD ON OUR MINDS, ESPECIALLY AS WE WENT THROUGH THE PANDEMIC AND THE, UH, THE COVID PERIOD WHERE FOR MANY ORGANIZATIONS IN THAT PERIOD OF TIME, IF YOU REMEMBER, SO THIS IS POST GREAT RECESSION.
UM, THEY DEFINITELY NEEDED, UH, A BUDGET BALANCING STRATEGY IN THE MIDST OF COVID, THE CARES ACT FUNDING, FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SUPPORT, UM, WAS NOT KNOWN TO BE AVAILABLE OR COMING.
UH, AND AT THE SAME TIME, IN ORDER TO SURVIVE LIKE THIS COMMUNITY, UH, THROUGH THOSE, THOSE TOUGH TIMES, WE NEEDED A STRATEGY AND A SOLUTION.
AND STAFF DID NOT HAVE TIME TO PRODUCE THIS TYPE OF INFORMATION.
SO IT WAS APPROXIMATELY IN THE COVID ERA THAT WE SET ABOUT TAKING ALL THE DATA THAT WE HAD PUT TOGETHER IN OUR WORK WITH HUNDREDS OF COMMUNITIES AND APPLYING WHAT THEN WAS A NATION EMERGING TECHNOLOGY AROUND MACHINE LEARNING STATISTICS AND THE INITIAL ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE TO TAKE YOUR LINE ITEM DATA AND BE ABLE TO ACCELERATE THIS PROCESS OF GETTING TO A PROGRAM, INVENTORY, A PROGRAM, COST ALLOCATION MODEL, PROGRAM SCORES, AND ULTIMATELY, THESE PROGRAM INSIGHTS AS FAST AS WE COULD, UH, NOW IN A MATTER OF WEEKS INSTEAD OF THE MONTHS THAT SIMPLY, YOU DON'T HAVE, UH, IN THIS PERIOD OF TIME.
UM, WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO GET TO ACTIONABLE DATA AS FAST AS POSSIBLE.
UM, AND THAT IS THE, THE PROCESS THAT WE HAVE TODAY.
AN EXAMPLE I'M GOING TO BRING UP IS COLLIER COUNTY, FLORIDA, UH, AMONG MANY COLLIER COUNTY IN THEIR FIRST 90 DAYS, WENT FROM THE START
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OF OUR WORK TOGETHER.AND IN THREE MONTHS TIME, THE IDENTIFICATION OF EVERY PROGRAM AND SERVICE THAT THEY'RE OFFERING, THE COST, THE FUNDING MODEL, ALTERNATIVE REVENUE STRATEGIES, PROGRAM INSIGHTS, AND THE FIRST RECOMMENDATION OF APPROXIMATELY $150 MILLION IN A $650 MILLION GENERAL FUND OF ALL OF THEIR OPPORTUNITIES FOR RESOURCE OPTIMIZATION.
THAT'S THE SPEED THAT WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE THE GOALS THAT YOU HAVE.
AND I'LL BRING UP COLLIER COUNTIES THAT WALK THROUGH SOME EXAMPLES.
SO I WANNA SHOW, UM, A LITTLE BIT OF DEMONSTRATION.
UH, I'LL RETURN TO SOME SLIDES, NOT TOO MANY MORE SLIDES, UH, THAT I HAVE LEFT.
BUT I WANNA GIVE YOU A SENSE FOR WHAT THIS BEGINS TO LOOK LIKE THAT IS GONNA NEED TO BE A LITTLE BIT BIGGER.
SO, UH, WE WENT ONLINE FOR THE PURPOSES OF, UH, TONIGHT'S PRESENTATION, AND WE COULD PULL TOGETHER, UH, SOME PUBLICLY AVAILABLE DATA FOR NATIONAL CITY.
AND WE THOUGHT THIS WAS IMPORTANT NOT TO PRESENT TO YOU A FINAL MODEL, UH, BUT INSTEAD TO PRESENT TO YOU WHAT THIS DATA CAN BEGIN TO LOOK LIKE WITH THE BEST INFORMATION THAT WE ARE ABLE TO PULL, UM, SHOULD WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK TOGETHER AND SUPPORT YOU ALL.
UM, CLEARLY WE WOULD BE USING YOUR ACTUAL INFORMATION FROM YOUR FINANCIAL SYSTEM, UH, FROM YOUR ERP, YOUR POSITION DATA, UH, YOUR GENERAL LEDGER OVERALL.
BUT WE THOUGHT IT'D STILL BE USEFUL TO BE ABLE TO SHOW YOU.
UH, WHEN I TALK ABOUT A PROGRAM INVENTORY OR THAT LIST OF PROGRAMS AND SERVICES, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE TYPE OF INFORMATION, THE POSITIONS YOU HAVE, THE DEPARTMENTS THAT YOU PROVIDE, UM, THIS IS WHAT IT BEGINS TO LOOK LIKE.
IF I WAS LOOKING AT BUILDING SAFETY, WE WOULD BE TALKING ABOUT GETTING DOWN TO BUILDING PERMIT REVIEW AND ISSUANCE, BUILDING INSPECTIONS AND CODE ENFORCEMENT, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, PLANNING AND COORDINATION, BUILDING AND SAFETY ADMINISTRATION, AND CUSTOMER SERVICE, UH, AND SO ON.
IF WE LOOKED AT THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, LEGAL COUNSEL AND ADVISORY SERVICES, MUNICIPAL LITIGATION AND CLAIMS MANAGEMENT, CODE ENFORCEMENT PROSECUTION, UH, AND SO ON.
UM, HOUSING AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, YOUR CDBG ADMINISTRATION CODE COMPLIANCE, UH, AND, AND ON AND ON A PROGRAM.
INVENTORY IS A STRUCTURED UNDERSTANDING OF EACH AND EVERY SERVICE, EACH AND EVERY PROGRAM THAT YOU PROVIDE.
AND THIS IS DATA THAT YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TODAY.
THIS IS THE DATA THAT WE'D BE BUILDING A COST MODEL AROUND FOR EVERY PROGRAM THAT YOU PROVIDE.
OVERALL, WHEN WE TAKE THAT DATA, ONE THING THAT WE ARE ABLE TO DO THAT HELPS US IN RESOURCE OPTIMIZATION, UH, UNDERSTANDING IS PROGRAM COST BENCHMARKING.
UM, I MENTIONED THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH HUNDREDS OF ORGANIZATIONS BUILDING, UH, AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IT TAKES TO PROVIDE EACH AND EVERY SERVICE.
AND WE CAN PUT THAT DATA TO USE FOR YOU, NARROWING IT DOWN TO THE POPULATION THAT YOU HAVE IN NATIONAL CITY TO SEE, UM, PEER ORGANIZATIONS AND HOW YOU STACK UP ON A COST PER CAPITA BASIS WITH OTHER JURISDICTIONS WHERE YOU ARE TYPICAL AND IN RANGE, WHERE YOU ARE EFFICIENT, UM, WHERE YOUR COST OF PROVIDING A PROGRAM IS LESS ON A PER CAPITA BASIS, UH, AND WHERE PERHAPS SOME OF YOUR PROGRAMS MIGHT BE ON THE HIGHER SIDE, HIGHER EFFICIENT, DO NOT, UM, ALWAYS CORRELATE.
YOU MIGHT INTENTIONALLY BE PUTTING MORE RESOURCES INTO A PROGRAM BECAUSE IT IS MORE IMPORTANT TO YOUR COMMUNITY OVERALL.
AND THAT IS PART OF THE ANALYSIS THAT WE WOULD GO THROUGH.
SO BENCHMARKING HAS ITS NUANCE.
UH, IT'LL BE CRUCIAL TO GO THROUGH THAT INFORMATION.
ANOTHER KEY ELEMENT THAT WE EXAMINE, UM, IS THE, THE NATURE OF PRO, UH, PROGRAM PROCESS OVERLAP.
UM, SO YOU THINK ABOUT, OF ALL THE PROGRAMS THAT YOU PROVIDE OVERALL IN THE CITY, AND I'LL TAKE BUILDING PERMIT REVIEW AND ISSUANCE AS A, AS AN EXAMPLE, BUILDING PERMIT REVIEW, AS YOU KNOW, IT HAS SEVERAL CORE STEPS TO IT THAT YOUR STAFF FOLLOW.
UM, THERE'S SOME SORT OF APPLICATION INTAKE, THERE'S AN APPLICATION REVIEW, PERHAPS THERE'S A PERMIT ISSUANCE.
UM, THERE'S RECORDS MANAGEMENT TO BE SURE, AND THERE'S SOME DEGREE OF CUSTOMER SERVICE THAT TAKES PLACE.
THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES TO PERFORM BUILDING PERMIT, REVIEW AND ISSUANCE OR DETERMINATION OF ONE SORT OR ANOTHER.
AND IT TURNS OUT, IF WE TAKE THOSE KEY, UH, PROGRAM PROCESSES AND WE LOOK ACROSS THE ENTIRETY OF YOUR ORGANIZATION, WE CAN START TO SEE WHERE DO THESE PROCESSES OVERLAP? AND WHY THAT'S IMPORTANT IS BECAUSE THAT'S GONNA GIVE US OUR FIRST CLUE TOWARDS, UM, INTERNAL DEPARTMENTAL PARTNERSHIP CENTRALIZATION OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE MIGHT NOT BE AWARE OF, UH, AND THE WAY TO OPTIMIZE AND ACHIEVE PROGRAM EFFICIENCIES ACROSS THE ORGANIZATION INTERNALLY.
SO WHEN I MOVE OVER TO THIS PROCESS OVERLAP SCREEN, AND WE START TO LOOK AT THESE CORE PROCESSES LIKE RECORDS MANAGEMENT, UH, LIKE INSPECTIONS LIKE ENFORCEMENT, AND I DRILL IN JUST FOR AN EXAMPLE IN RECORDS MANAGEMENT.
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DEPARTMENTS, UM, FROM POLICE TO FACILITIES MANAGEMENT, FINANCE TO THE CITY'S CLERK'S, OFFICE RECORDS MANAGEMENT ALONE IS BRINGING US INSIGHT TO WHERE A SIMPLE PROCESS THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY IMPACT STAFFING CAN GIVE US A WINDOW, UH, OF OPPORTUNITY FOR EFFICIENCY AND OPTIMIZATION.SO YOU THINK ABOUT RECORDS MANAGEMENT, WE HAVE SOME PAPER FILES, WE HAVE SOME DIGITAL, WE HAVE PERHAPS HAVE NUMEROUS VENDORS.
WHERE CAN WE CONSOLIDATE? WHERE CAN WE, UM, ACHIEVE THIS PROGRAM EFFICIENCY? AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE SAVINGS THAT COMMUNITIES ACHIEVE, UM, AS DOUG, UH, MENTIONED IN BAINBRIDGE ISLAND, UH, TO OUR WORK IN LOS ANGELES COUNTY, UH, FROM BENICIA, CALIFORNIA TO KANSAS CITY, MISSOURI, IT IS THROUGH THESE TYPES OF ANALYSIS THAT WE'RE ABLE TO, UM, GET TO THE HEART OF THE MATTER, WHICH IS, WHERE CAN WE ACHIEVE THESE SAVINGS? WHERE CAN WE ACHIEVE THE ALTERNATIVE REVENUE STRATEGIES? UH, AND ALL THE WHILE IN THIS TOOL THAT I'M DEMONSTRATING RIGHT NOW, THIS IS OUR, UH, PIPELINE FOR INGESTING YOUR INFORMATION, UH, YOUR GENERAL LEDGER DATA, AND RUNNING IT THROUGH PREDICTIVE CAPABILITIES TO DEVELOP THIS DATA, UH, WITH OUR MACHINE LEARNING, WITH OUR, UM, VERIFIED AND VALIDATED DATA SET TO GET YOU THE DATA YOU NEED AS FAST, UH, AS YOU NEED IT.
AND LET ME SHOW YOU A COUPLE OTHER THINGS, UH, WHILE WE ARE HERE.
UM, PRESENTATION SITE, PRESENT, PBB.
THIS IS A SITE WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT YOUR BUDGET.
WE'RE LOOKING AT A BUDGET, UH, WHERE WE CAN SEE ACROSS YOUR VARIOUS PRIORITIES IF THESE WERE YOURS, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND REVITALIZATION, OR PUBLIC SAFETY AND EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS, OR HEALTH AND, AND WELL WELLNESS.
UH, WE CAN SEE YOUR DEPARTMENT STRUCTURE.
THE DARKER THE COLOR, THE GREATER THE IMPACT ON, UH, KEY STRATEGIC PRIORITIES.
THE BIGGER THE BOX, UH, THE LARGER THE BUDGET OVERALL.
AND IF I DRILL INTO ANY OF THESE DEPARTMENTS, HERE'S POLICE.
WE CAN SEE FROM PATROL AND EMERGENCY RESPONSE FIELD OPERATIONS MANAGEMENT, EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS AND DISPATCH, COMMUNITY SERVICES AND PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, ALL THE WAY DOWN TO CRIME ANALYSIS AND INTELLIGENCE, YOUR PROGRAM PORTFOLIO ACROSS THE BOARD, UH, IN ONE OF YOUR DEPARTMENTS, LIKE POLICE, AGAIN, CONVEYING THE UNDERSTANDING THAT POLICE ISN'T JUST ONE THING.
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS KEY PERSONNEL AND STAFF PROVIDING LEADERSHIP AND SERVICES TO PROVIDE ALL OF THOSE PROGRAMS THAT WE ARE JUST LOOKING AT.
HERE'S HOUSING AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
UH, AND AS I TOGGLE TO SEE DIFFERENT PRIORITY AREAS, WE CAN SEE THIS DEPARTMENT'S IMPACT, UH, ACROSS THE BOARD ON KEY STRATEGIC PRIORITIES AND THE INVESTMENT OF THE BUDGET, UM, ALL THE WAY DOWN TO RENTAL ASSISTANCE AND, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UH, DEVELOPMENT AND ASSISTANCE.
IF I BREAK IT DOWN, I CAN SEE THE FULL DESCRIPTION OF THE PROGRAM THAT WE'RE PROVIDING, THE PERSONNEL, THE NON-PERSONNEL, THE REVENUE, THE COST RECOVERY, HOW THIS PROGRAM SCORED THOSE KEY PROGRAM ATTRIBUTES.
UH, AND ULTIMATELY, IF I DID WANT TO SEE EACH AND EVERY LINE ITEM IN THAT BUDGET TIED BACK TO THIS PROGRAM AND ALIGNED WITH THE PRIORITIES THAT IS IMPACTING, WE HAVE TRANSLATED THAT BUDGET AROUND THE PROGRAMS, UH, AND THE, THE KEY OUTCOMES THAT THEY ACHIEVE.
SO I PAUSE HERE FOR JUST A SECOND, UM, BECAUSE I KNOW I'M DEEP INTO THE DATA, BUT I WANT TO BRING A BASIC POINT THAT WITH YOUR BUDGET, AS YOU KNOW IT, THE LINE ITEM DETAIL, NEVER ARE WE ABLE TO SEE EACH AND EVERY PROGRAM, THE FUNDING MODEL YOU HAVE TODAY, THE COST RECOVERY FOR EVERY PROGRAM, HOW THESE PROGRAMS ALIGN OR DO NOT ALIGN WITH THE PRIORITIES THAT YOU BRING TO THIS COUNCIL AS YOU REPRESENT THIS COMMUNITY.
UH, AND ULTIMATELY WHERE WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES FOR OPTIMIZATION, EFFICIENCY, PARTNERSHIP, UH, AND, AND, UH, NEW REVENUE.
I HAVE TWO MORE SITES TO SHOW THAT ARE, UM, PRETTY QUICK.
I MENTIONED COLLIER COUNTY, FLORIDA, AND I MENTIONED THEM FOR A SPECIFIC REASON.
AND THAT WAS THE SPEED, THE, UH, THE TIME TO VALUE.
WHEN COLLIER COUNTY WAS IN YOUR SHOES, IT WAS 90 DAYS BEFORE THEY HAD A FULL PROGRAM, INVENTORY, THE COSTING AND FUNDING MODEL FOR EACH AND EVERY PROGRAM.
UH, AND ULTIMATELY, THEIR PROGRAM INSIGHTS, WE PRESENTED THEM WITH A, UH, AN OVERARCHING RANGE OF WHAT THEIR COST SAVINGS, UH, OPPORTUNITIES LOOKED LIKE FROM OUR FIRST ANALYSIS, UM, AND REVENUE ENHANCEMENT, UH, OPPORTUNITIES.
AND THE INITIAL PROJECTION, ALL THINGS INCLUDED, WAS A RANGE OF APPROXIMATELY 87 TO A HUNDRED THIRTY THREE, A HUNDRED THIRTY $1 MILLION OVERALL.
NOW, COLLIER COUNTY HAS SYSTEMATICALLY BEGUN TO WORK THEIR WAY THROUGH THESE INSIGHTS, THESE OPPORTUNITIES FOR COST SAVINGS AND REVENUE WITH US.
AND THAT IS ONE OF THE SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE, NOT JUST THE SOFTWARE, BUT THE SERVICES AS WELL, TO WORK
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WITH YOUR CITY MANAGER, TO WORK WITH STAFF AND DEPARTMENT HEADS TO REVIEW THESE INSIGHTS AND SEE WHAT'S REALISTIC.WHAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU'VE, UH, UH, PERHAPS ALREADY CONCLUDED MIGHT NOT WORK HERE IN NATIONAL CITY.
UM, ON THE OTHER HAND, WHAT IS SOMETHING THAT MIGHT TAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME VERSUS AN OPPORTUNITY THAT MIGHT BE MORE ACTIONABLE THAN OTHERS? AND AS I TOGGLE OVER TO THEIR COMMITMENTS BOARD, UM, WHAT I WANT TO SHOW YOU AS I'M WORKING MY WAY THROUGH ALL OF THESE PROGRAMMATIC ACTIONS THAT DEPARTMENTS HAVE COMMITTED TO AND IMPLEMENTED IS A SCOREBOARD, IS A LIST OF COMMITMENTS FROM THE DEPARTMENTS.
UM, OF ALL OF THE OPPORTUNITIES THEY HAVE ALREADY REALIZED THEIR FIRST 50 MILLION IN ACHIEVED SAVINGS AND ARE, UM, RIGHT AT THE MOMENT WORKING THEIR WAY THROUGH THE NEXT 80 MILLION.
AND I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THIS IS A PROCESS THAT AS YOU HAVE COST SAVINGS OPPORTUNITIES AND ALTERNATIVE REVENUE ON THE TABLE, SOME WILL BE FASTER THAN OTHERS.
AND OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT ONE TO TWO TO THREE YEARS, AS YOU'RE, UH, CONSIDERING WORKING YOUR WAY THROUGH THESE OPPORTUNITIES, SOME DEPARTMENTS WILL BE ABLE TO TAKE ACTION THIS FISCAL YEAR.
UM, SOME WILL HAVE, UH, ACTION OR ACTIVITY, UH, THE SUBSEQUENT FISCAL YEAR.
UM, AND REST, YOU KNOW, TO BE SURE, JUST AS WE KNOW FROM THE GREAT RECESSION IN 2008 TO THE COVID AND PANDEMIC TIMES TO TODAY, WE, WE HIT THESE, UH, UH, TIMES OF FINANCIAL, UH, STRESS.
AND WE NEED THESE INSIGHTS TO BE READILY AVAILABLE AND TO ALWAYS HAVE THESE OPTIONS ON THE TABLE AND CONTINUE TO WORK THROUGH THEM.
THIS CHALLENGE THAT WE FACE TODAY AS, UM, SIGNIFICANT AS IT IS, MIGHT NOT BE THE ONLY CHALLENGE THAT YOU FACE INTO THE FUTURE.
AND WE NEED THE DATA TO BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN AND HELP US MOVE FORWARD.
AND THAT BRINGS ME TO OUR, UM, LAST TOOL, UH, AND FOR ALL OF THE DATA AND THE DEEP DIVE THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO LOOK AT THUS FAR, UM, THE EMERGENCE OF CHAT-BASED OR CONVERSATIONAL, UM, NATURAL LANGUAGE PROCESSING TO LOAD A DATA SET, UH, YOUR DATA INTO A TOOL THAT YOU CAN HAVE A NORMAL CONVERSATION WITH.
AND SAY, I DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO TURN TO ALL OF THESE SCREENS TO BE ABLE TO FIND THE DATA AND ANALYTICS, BUT INSTEAD, I SIMPLY WANT BE ABLE TO, TO SAY, UM, WELL, I DID ONE, UH, EARLIER.
THESE ARE THE, SOME OF THE BASIC, UH, CAPABILITIES.
BUT I SAID, UM, AS WE WERE HEARING ABOUT SOME OF YOUR NEW STAFFING AND THEIR, UM, EXPERIENCE THAT WAS HIGHLIGHTED AROUND HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS CHALLENGES, I ASKED THE TOOL, LOOKING AT OUR PREDICTED DATA THAT WE HAD RUN FOR YOUR COMMUNITY, WHAT KINDS OF PROGRAMS IS THE CITY OFFERING FOR HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS? AND I HAVE MY UPDATED, UH, SERVICE PORTFOLIO ON THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS PORTFOLIO, UH, LOOKING ACROSS ALL DEPARTMENTS.
AND AS YOU SEE HERE, THEIR PRICING STRUCTURE, WHAT DEPARTMENTS ARE PROVIDING THEM FROM HOUSING AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT MIGHT BE MORE OBVIOUS, UM, THROUGH RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS ACROSS, UH, VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS.
UM, IT IS QUITE COMPREHENSIVE OF THE TYPES OF PROGRAM OFFERINGS THAT ARE BEING OFFERED, UH, FROM THIS COMMUNITY.
UH, AS I WENT DOWN A LITTLE BIT FURTHER, AND JASON AND I WERE IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM, UM, ANOTHER EXAMPLE THAT CAME UP, UH, WAS THE CELEBRATION OF YOUR ARTS.
A REASON TO SURVIVE, UH, OPERATION.
AND WHILE WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT PROGRAM FROM AN OUTSIDER'S PERSPECTIVE THUS FAR, LOOKING AT PUBLICLY AVAILABLE DATA, UH, I ASKED HOW DOES THE CITY, UH, OR, OR MIGHT THE CITY PARTNER WITH THE ARTS, UH, OPERATION AND THIS TOOL CROSS-REFERENCING THE PROGRAMS THAT YOU ALREADY OFFER BEGAN TO EXAMINE THOUGHTFULLY WHERE MIGHT THE CITY BE ABLE TO, UH, PARTNER ON PROGRAMS SUCH AS YOUTH AND FAMILY SERVICES IN THE LIBRARY, OR A COMMUNITY RECREATION PROGRAM, OR YOUTH CRISIS RESPONSE AND INTERVENTION.
UH, AND AS WE START TO MINE AND LOOK FOR THESE OPPORTUNITIES, I WANNA BRING IT BACK TO THE CENTRAL POINT WHEN YOU CAN ASK WHERE A PARTNERSHIP MIGHT OCCUR.
WE'RE ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT MAXIMIZING IMPACT FOR THE COMMUNITY WITH OPTIMIZED RESOURCES.
SO WE HAVE A BUDGET TO BALANCE.
UH, WE HAVE A, A, A SUSTAINABLE BUDGET TO CREATE FOR THE LONG TERM, BUT IT'S NOT JUST BUDGET BALANCING.
WE HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF THE OUTCOMES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE TO THE MAXIMUM EXTENT POSSIBLE WITH THE RESOURCES THAT YOU HAVE.
AND THIS IS OUR, UM, PBB STRATEGIST.
UH, IT IS TRAINED TO WORK ON JUST YOUR DATA AND HAS THE KNOW-HOW OF EVERYTHING THAT I'VE DONE IN PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING AND OUR COLLEAGUES OVER THE YEARS FROM ALL THE EXPERIENCES THAT WE HAVE HAD THE CHANCE TO WORK ON.
SO I BRING IT BACK TO, UM, JUST A COUPLE OF LAST SLIDES TO WRAP IT UP.
AND THEN WE'D LOVE TO ENTERTAIN, UH, SOME QUESTIONS.
THIS IS IN YOUR SLIDES, JUST WHERE WE FOUND THE PUBLICLY AVAILABLE DATA, UH, TO LOAD INTO OUR TOOLS TO PREPARE FOR TODAY'S MEETING.
UM, WE START TO THINK ABOUT WHAT,
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WHAT YOU HAVE ULTIMATELY WHEN YOU HAVE THE PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING DATA.AND THE TITLE IS QUITE BOLD HERE TO SAY, EVERY HARD QUESTION ON RESOURCE SCARCITY TURNS OUT TO BE A REPRESENTATION OR A, A MANIFESTATION OF A SIMILAR TYPE OF PROBLEM WE'RE WORKING WITH, UH, LA COUNTY, AMONG OTHERS ABOUT, UM, FEDERAL GRANT LOSS.
SO WHAT HAP IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE FEDERAL GRANT LOSS.
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN A GRANT DISAPPEARS? DO WE AUTOMATICALLY REDUCE THE SERVICE JUST BECAUSE THE GRANT DOLLARS ARE NOT THERE? WHAT IF THE PROGRAM HAS A HIGH DEGREE OF IMPACT ON THE OUTCOMES YOU'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE? DO YOU AUTOMATICALLY BACKFILL WITH GENERAL FUND RESOURCES? THOSE ARE TWO OPTIONS.
UM, BUT WHAT ABOUT TAKING A HARD LOOK AT, UH, ALL OF THE OTHER PROGRAMS WHERE WE HAVE RESOURCE REALLOCATION AND OPTIMIZATION OPPORTUNITIES? WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT THAT PROGRAM'S RELATIONSHIP TO THE OUTCOMES YOU'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH? WHAT IS THE RIGHT DECISION? WHAT IS THAT POLICY POSTURE? YOU HAVE A BUDGET SHORTFALL TODAY, UH, AND CLEARLY THIS DATA SET, UM, THE, THE HIGHEST VALUE USE CASE IS TO SYSTEMATICALLY IDENTIFY PRICE AND SCORE EVERY PROGRAM YOU HAVE, UH, LOOKING FOR THE ALTERNATIVES, LOOKING FOR THE COST SAVINGS, AND THE, UM, NEW, UH, REVENUE THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO BE BROUGHT TO BEAR.
SO WE DON'T HAVE TO LOOK AT SERVICE LEVEL CUTS FIRST, AND WE DON'T HAVE TO LOOK AT TAX INCREASES FIRST.
WE CAN TURN OVER EVERY OTHER ROCK.
WE CAN LOOK AT EVERY OTHER OPTION THAT YOU HAVE, PERHAPS SOMEDAY, LIKE SOME OF OUR OTHER COMMUNITIES, UH, HAVE EXPERIENCED IT OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS.
IT WON'T BE A BUDGET SHORTFALL, BUT YOU'LL HAVE A PRIORITY THAT NEEDS FUNDING THAT YOU DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO FUND TODAY.
HOW DO YOU COME UP WITH THE RESOURCES? IT'S, IT'S A VERY SIMILAR TYPE OF RESOURCE SCARCITY PROBLEM.
AND SIMILARLY, THIS DATA SET AND THESE TOOLS ARE USED TO MINE OPPORTUNITIES FOR RESOURCE REALLOCATION OPTIMIZATION, UH, AND ALTERNATIVE REVENUE.
IT'S THE SAME DATA SET THAT HAS HELPED COLLIER COUNTY IN ITS FIRST, UH, 40 MILLION IN 90 DAYS LOS ANGELES COUNTY, UH, TODAY AT 290 MILLION JUST GETTING UNDERWAY, KANSAS CITY, MISSOURI, TO, UM, REDUCE THEIR PROJECTED SHORTFALL IN THEIR FIRST YEAR FROM, FROM 100 MILLION, UH, TO 54 MILLION IN THEIR FIRST BUDGET CYCLE.
IT'S JUST, IT'S A LOT OF MONEY, UH, IN PITTSBURGH, PENNSYLVANIA, UN UNFUNDED PRIORITIES, UM, $41 MILLION IDENTIFIED IN THE MIDST OF COVID TO COME THROUGH ON THEIR COMMITMENTS TO, UH, ALTERNATIVE, UM, SUSTAINABLE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND ENVIRONMENTAL, UM, UH, UH, OBJECTIVES.
AND SO WHY, WHY US? WELL, THIS IS PROCESS HAS BEEN, UH, TRIED AND TRUE FOR OVER 300 GOVERNMENTS, HAS BEEN RECOGNIZED BY CREDIT RATING AGENCIES FROM STANDARD AND POORS, AND MOODY'S AND FITCH, UH, CITED SPECIFICALLY FOR PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING.
AS DOUG MENTIONED, THE AA BOND RATING IN BAINBRIDGE ISLAND.
BAINBRIDGE ISLAND IS NOT THE ONLY ORGANIZATION THAT THAT IS VITAL TO OTHER RESOURCE OPTIMIZATION STRATEGIES.
UM, WE HAVE THE TOOLS TO ACCELERATE WHY NOW YOU NEED TO, TO BE MOVING FAST ON YOUR SOLUTION AND TAKING THE TIME TO GO THROUGH A YEAR LONG PROCESS, UH, AS, AS THOROUGH AS, AS SOMETHING MIGHT BE.
UM, HOW FAST CAN WE ANALYZE YOUR GENERAL LEDGER DATA TRANSLATED AROUND PROGRAMS AND SERVICES AND EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE SHOWN TODAY? THAT IS WHY NOW WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO MOVE, UH, VERY QUICKLY.
UM, AND WILL IT WORK HERE? WE HAVE SCALED, UH, THIS PROCESS FROM THE LARGEST OF LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.
AS I MENTIONED TO, ONE OF OUR HIGHLIGHTS FOR TYLER TECHNOLOGIES THIS YEAR WAS LIBERTY LAKE, WASHINGTON, UH, OUTSIDE THE SPOKANE AREA, UH, OF A COMMUNITY, LESS THAN 20,000 PEOPLE.
UM, AND EVERYWHERE IN BETWEEN.
UH, SO THIS IS THE, THE METHODOLOGY THAT WORKS.
UM, THIS IS THE TYPE OF CHALLENGE THAT WE ARE, UH, SKILLED IN SOLVING.
WE NEED TO GET TO THIS PROGRAM LEVEL DATA AS FAST AS POSSIBLE.
AND ULTIMATELY, UM, THINKING ABOUT YOU, UH, ELECTED OFFICIALS, COUNCIL AND MAYOR, UM, AND, AND CITY MANAGER AND STAFF AND AND THE PUBLIC, WHEN WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, AND DEPARTMENTS ARE WORRIED ABOUT, UH, THE FUTURE AND SUSTAINABILITY OF THE PROGRAMS THAT THEY'VE BUILT AND THE COMMUNITY THAT DESPERATELY CARES ABOUT SO MANY OF THE PROGRAMS, AND THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT CUTS.
AND THEY ALSO MIGHT BE WORRIED ABOUT, UH, INCREASING THE BURDEN OF, UM, THE ASK FOR NEW RESOURCES, WHICH, WHICH MIGHT BE THE RIGHT ANSWERS IN SOME CASES.
UM, WE'RE PROPOSING YOU DO HAVE THE TIME RIGHT NOW, NOT A LOT OF TIME TO BE ABLE TO PUT THE REQUISITE NECESSARY DATA TOGETHER, UM, TO OFFER A, A THIRD CHOICE, UH, IN THE MATTER.
AND THAT IS WHAT PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING IS ALL ABOUT.
SO THANK YOU FOR THE TIME TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT, UH, AND SHOW YOU SOME OF THE DEMONSTRATION OF JUST SOME OF THE SOFTWARE TOOLS THAT WE'LL MAKE AVAILABLE.
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UM, BUT LOVE TO ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.SO LOOK TO THE CITY MANAGER, SEE IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS BEFORE WE PUT QUESTIONS.
UH, THANK YOU FOR TYLER, UH, TO TYLER TECHNOLOGISTS FOR COMING OUT AND GIVING THIS PRESENTATION AND THE DEMO, KIND OF BEING ABLE TO SEE THAT, UH, UH, SORT OF LIVE, UM, HELPS KIND OF SEE WHAT THE, WHAT THIS TECHNOLOGY COULD BRING TO THE CITY AND WHAT WE COULD DO.
UM, MY FIRST QUESTION IS, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT PRIORITIES, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT PRIORITIES IN THE DETERMINATION OF PRIORITIES, HOW DO YOU DETERMINE WHAT PRIORITIES ARE COMING FROM THE PUBLIC OR THE COMMUNITY? SO HOW DO YOU, HOW ARE YOU MEASURING WHERE, WHAT SPECIFICALLY ARE THE PEOPLE OF NATIONAL CITY WANT TO SEE? HOW, HOW DO YOU DO THAT? SO, GREAT QUESTION.
AND SO FIRST, UM, IF WE WERE WORKING TOGETHER, WE WOULD HAVE THIS DIALOGUE.
WE WOULD TALK ABOUT, DO YOU HAVE A STRATEGIC PLAN? UM, DO YOU HAVE ONE IN MOTION? DO YOU HAVE ANY DATA THAT YOU'VE PUT TOGETHER OVER THE YEARS THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO USE FOR THE BASIS OF, UH, ESTABLISHING STRATEGIC PRIORITIES FOR TODAY'S PRESENTATION? UH, WE APPLIED OUR TOOLS TO GO AHEAD AND SCOUR YOUR WEBSITE TO SAY, WHAT DO WE SEE? UH, WHAT ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT YOU WRITE ABOUT? WHAT ARE YOUR COUNCIL PACKETS, UM, DESCRIBING? AND SO THIS IS AN OUTSIDER'S VIEW.
THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY WHAT WE WOULD USE, UH, BUT JUST FOR EXAMPLE, THIS IS WHAT, THIS IS A MIRROR ON.
WHAT IS AVAILABLE ON YOUR WEBSITE THAT YOU, UH, TALK ABOUT COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND REVITALIZATION FROM AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND DEVELOPMENT PERSPECTIVE, UM, PROMOTING COMMERCIAL GROWTH, SUSTAINABLE INFRASTRUCTURE, NEIGHBORHOOD REVITALIZATION, AND ENHANCING PUBLIC SPACES.
YOU HAVE AN EMPHASIS ON PUBLIC SAFETY AND EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS.
I WANT READ THROUGH ALL OF THESE, BUT I WANT YOU TO SEE, UH, AS WE STRIVE TO GET A COMPREHENSIVE VIEWPOINT OF WHAT THE PRIORITIES ARE OF THIS COMMUNITY, UM, WE WANT IT TO BE COMPLETE AND COMPREHENSIVE.
UM, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO WAIT OR APPLY A WAITING FACTOR TO RANK, UH, PROGRAMS AS THEY INFLUENCE VARIOUS RESULTS OR OUTCOMES OR PRIORITIES AS YOU SEE HERE.
UM, I, BUT WE WOULD, WE WOULD STRIVE AT THIS STAGE BEFORE WE USE THIS DATA FOR EVERYTHING FROM, UH, PERFORMANCE MEASURES, UM, TO PROGRAM SCORING TO MAKE SURE IS THIS ACTUALLY COMPLETE? DO WE HAVE, HAVE WE ARRIVED AT THE CORRECT STRATEGIC PLAN PRIORITIES BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD, UH, WITH SCORING PROGRAMS? OKAY, WELL, THAT'S HELPFUL TO HEAR THAT YOU ALL CAN ADJUST THE WEIGHT OF THE SCORING ON THE CRITERIA AND WHAT THE PRIORITIES ARE.
BUT IF YOU ALL ARE LOOKING ONLY AT OUR WEBSITE, I JUST DON'T KNOW, I JUST DON'T THINK THAT THAT IS WHAT IS NECESSARILY GOING TO GIVE YOU THE BEST DIRECT PUBLIC OR COMMUNITY OUTREACH, BECAUSE WE, AT THE CITY, UM, LIKE FOR OUR WEBSITE, WE BUILD THAT, UM, THE WEBSITE, I MEAN, BE SOME PUB PUBLIC COMMENTS.
AND IN OUR MEETINGS, AND, UH, WE DO, WE DO HAVE A STRATEGIC PLAN, BUT IT'S NOT, IT'S, IT'S NOT DI I DON'T THINK IT'S LIKE DIRECTLY FROM PER PERSON TO PERSON.
SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, DO YOU GUYS, SO THE WEBSITE, THAT'S OKAY, SCOURING THROUGH THAT, BUT WHAT DIRECT, UH, COMMUNITY OUTREACH, UH, DOES THIS TOOL DO YOU GUYS DO IN ORDER TO DETERMINE WHAT THE PEOPLE THINK THE PRIORITY SHOULD BE? LIKE, IS IT SURVEY, IS IT POLLING? LIKE, WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? SO THANK YOU FOR, UM, GOING ONE STEP FURTHER.
AND I, I WANNA REITERATE THAT FOR THE PURPOSES OF TODAY'S PRESENTATION, WAS THE REASON I WENT TO THE WEBSITE TO SEE WHAT MIGHT ILLUSTRATE, UH, THE, THE PRIORITIES THAT WE'D SEE IN NATIONAL CITY.
IN AN ACTUAL ENGAGEMENT, WE WOULD HAVE A DISCUSSION, UH, WITH THIS ELECTED BODY, WITH STAFF.
UM, THERE ARE OPTIONS OR OPPORTUNITIES TO CONSIDER MORE OF A ROBUST COMMUNITY INPUT, UH, PROCESS OVERALL.
UM, THAT IS NOT INITIALLY WHAT WE HAVE PROPOSED, UH, BUT WE COULD CONSIDER WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE AND BETWEEN OURSELVES OR POTENTIAL PARTNERS OR OTHER TOOLS, THAT IS, IF THAT WAS WHAT THIS BODY WAS INTERESTED IN, UH, THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE CAN PROVIDE.
SO DO, DO YOU ALL HAVE THE EXPERTISE OR THE, OR IS IT INCLUDED IN THE PROPOSAL, UM, THAT DIRECT, UH, COMMUNITY OUTREACH? DO YOU ALL DO THAT, THAT TYPE OF OUT COMMUNITY OUTREACH? UM, WE DO HAVE THE EXPERTISE AND THE SERVICE CAPABILITIES AND PARTNERS AND TOOLS TO CONSIDER THIS PARTICULAR PROPOSAL DID NOT CONTEMPLATE, UH, A ROBUST OUTREACH PROCESS TO THE COMMUNITY WITH POLLING.
UM, BUT IT, WE, WE DO HAVE SOME OPTIONS THAT WE CAN, UH, BRING BACK, UH, TO CONSIDER.
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QUESTIONS FOR THANK YOU MEMBER MOLINA.THANK YOU FOR THIS, UH, PRESENTATION.
UM, I AM A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT HOW THIS ACTUALLY WILL APPLY TO THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY.
I MEAN, I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE SO FAR, BUT YOU KNOW, THE, ONE OF THE VERY LAST SLIDES YOU SAY ON HERE, WE ARE ASKING YOU TO DO ON PURPOSE WHAT YOU ALREADY DO BY ACCIDENT.
AND I ACTUALLY WOULD LIKE TO CHALLENGE THAT.
AND I BELIEVE THAT WE ARE A VERY LEAN ORGANIZATION THAT DOES, UM, ACTUALLY EMPLOY A LOT OF THE SUGGESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE MADE.
I DO AGREE THAT THERE IS GREAT NEED TO FIND EFFICIENCIES, AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT, THAT I'M INTERESTED IN DOING.
BUT I DO WANNA LET YOU KNOW THAT, UM, I, I DO FEEL LIKE OUR ORGANIZATION ACTUALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, IS NOT, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, IS NOT BLIND TO SOME OF THESE SUGGESTIONS ALREADY.
ALL I'M SAYING IS I DO FEEL THAT OUR TEAM DOES A GOOD JOB AT SOME OF THE SUGGESTIONS YOU'VE ALREADY MADE.
NOW, UM, A QUESTION FOR OUR CITY MANAGER.
I'M INTERESTED IN INPUT FROM, UM, YOUR DIRECTORS.
HAVE YOU RECEIVED INPUT FROM YOUR DIRECTORS ABOUT THIS SPECIFIC, UM, PROPOSAL BEFORE US? UH, NOT, NOT SPECIFICALLY ASKING, UM, FOR INPUT ON THIS, WE'VE, WE'VE DISCUSSED THE APPLICATION OF PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING, UM, FINANCE, UH, ACTING, UH, FINANCE DIRECTOR, UM, AND THE BUDGET MANAGER.
WE'RE BOTH INVOLVED, UH, EARLY ON IN DISCUSSIONS AND THE PRESENTATIONS.
UH, SO THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO PROVIDE INPUT, BUT ACROSS ALL DEPARTMENTS, WE, WE DIDN'T HAVE THE SAME LEVEL OF INPUT YET.
SO NOW THAT WE HAVE SEEN WHAT THIS ACTUALLY MEANS, BECAUSE THIS PRESENTATION WAS NOT PART OF OUR AGENDA MATERIALS, UM, WE RECEIVED A ONE PAGER ON, ON WHAT YOU JUST DESCRIBED IN THE LAST HOUR.
SO, UM, NOW THAT WE HAVE A ILLUSTRATION OF WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY CONSIDERING, UM, AND I DO WANNA SAY THE COST OF THIS IS, UH, HIGH.
IT IS A QUARTER OF A MILLION DOLLARS.
I AM INTERESTED IN, UM, RECEIVING MORE INPUT, WHETHER THIS, WHETHER OUR STAKEHOLDERS INTERNALLY BELIEVE THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE PURSUING.
I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO LEAVE IT TO THE COUNCIL, THE FIVE OF US UP HERE TO MAKE THIS DECISION.
IT IS SUCH A CRUCIAL DECISION THAT ACTUALLY INVOLVES, UH, EVERYONE, UH, AT, AT THE DIRECTOR LEVEL AND BELOW, UM, THAT I WOULD WANT TO CITY MANAGER, I WOULD REQUEST THAT WE GET INPUT FROM THE, THE STAKEHOLDERS.
UH, THE OTHER CONCERN I HAVE, AND I DID MENTION THIS THROUGH MY, UM, UH, BRIEFING EARLIER, WAS IT CONCERNS ME THAT THIS IS A SINGLE SOURCE, UM, TYPE OF, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE ARE IN NEED OF SOMETHING TO HELP US WITH OUR BUDGET.
RIGHT? AND I WAS CONCERNED TO HEAR THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE ONE SHOT WE HAVE AND LET'S GO WITH IT.
I'M ACTUALLY CURIOUS TO SEE, SHOULDN'T WE BE CONSIDERING OTHER OPTIONS? SHOULDN'T WE BE MINDFUL OF, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THE URGENCY, I UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO GET STARTED ASAP, BUT AGAIN, I AM CURIOUS TO UNDERSTAND, IS THIS TRULY THE BEST FIT FOR US TODAY? UM, THAT'S WHERE I STAND RIGHT NOW.
UM, I, I UNDERSTAND THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT OUR CURRENT CITY MANAGER HAD, UM, EXERCISED AND, UM, IT WORKED ACCORDING TO HIM.
UM, YOU SAID IN ONE OF YOUR SLIDES, MR. FABIAN AND CHRIS, RIGHT? UM, THAT THIS PROGRAM CAN TAKE SIX MONTHS, BUT NOW IT TAKES WEEKS.
SO WHY FIVE YEARS? I'M, I'M SORRY, I MISSED THE LAST ONE.
WHY FIVE YEARS? FIVE YEARS CONTRACT OF 25, OF 250 FOR FIVE YEARS, CORRECT.
UM, IT'S, SO THE, THE, THE $250,000 AMOUNT WOULD REPRESENT, UM, THREE YEARS OF SOFTWARE FOR $80,000 A YEAR.
AND THEN IN THE FIRST YEAR, UM, WOULD INCLUDE $10,000 OF, OF PROFESSIONAL SERVICES FOR, FOR DATA DEVELOPMENTS.
UM, AND, UH, AND I BELIEVE, UM, THAT INCLUDE A PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING, UM, DIRECTOR SERVICE AS WELL.
SO IS THIS AN INDEPENDENT FROM EUNICE CITY MANAGER?
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SO WE HAVE THE, WE'RE IMPLEMENTING THE, UM, TYLER TECHNOLOGY MUNI, ERP.UM, THIS WILL WORK IN CONJUNCTION WITH IT, I GUESS IS THE BEST WAY TO DESCRIBE IT.
SO, TYLER, PBB TYLER PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING IS PART OF TYLER TECHNOLOGIES, WHICH MUNI IS ALSO A PART OF.
UM, SO TYLER, TYLER, UM, YOU KNOW, BUILDS AND ACQUIRES COMPANIES.
MUNI IS A COMPANY THAT THEY ACQUIRED A LONG TIME AGO.
TYLER, PBB IS, UM, IS, IS A MODULE AND A PROCESS AND BUSINESS THAT THEY ACQUIRED THREE YEARS AGO.
SO WE'RE, SO WE'RE BOTH OWNED BY TYLER TECHNOLOGIES.
SO IS IT A PART OF THE SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW? AND THIS, UH, PBB IS A MODULE THAT WILL WORK WITH MUNIS, IS THAT MODULE? YES, IT IS A MODULE THAT WILL WORK WITH MUNIS.
SO THAT IS THE INGESTION OF MUNIS, ERP, UM, DATA THAT THIS TOOL TURNS INTO THE PROGRAM AND SERVICE LEVEL BUSINESS INTELLIGENCE, UH, TO MAKE DECISIONS ON.
SO IT DEPENDS ON THE MUNI DATA.
SO WITH THIS, IT'S A SEPARATE TRAINING FOR OUR STAFF.
AND YOU SAID IT WILL TAKE SIX WEEKS, I MEAN SIX MONTHS, UM, SIX MONTHS OF TRAINING THE NOTE ON THE SIX MONTHS, LET ME GO BACK AND SAY TO GET DATA FROM US, RIGHT? SO I THINK, UM, ON DAY ONE, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO INGEST DATA FROM THE MUNI SYSTEM.
UH, WE'D ALSO BE LOOKING FOR ANY OTHER DATA THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE BESIDES MUNI.
UM, AND WE'RE GOING TO, WE'RE GONNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE COMPREHENSIVE DATA TO TURN IT INTO THE BEST INFORMATION TO MAKE DECISIONS ON, UM, OUR TIME.
WE HAVE NOT SETTLED ON A TIMELINE, UH, WHATSOEVER.
THAT'D BE A, A PART OF DISCUSSION IN OUR PROJECT PLANNING WHEN WE FIRST START TO WORK TOGETHER IS BY WHEN DO WE NEED A FIRST SET OF RECOMMENDATIONS THAT INCLUDE, UH, DEPARTMENTAL INPUT, COUNCIL INPUT TO BE SURE.
UM, AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNEW THAT WE CAN MOVE VERY QUICKLY.
UM, SO THE COLLIER COUNTY REFERENCE OF 90 DAYS OF THREE MONTHS WAS IMPORTANT FOR ME TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THAT WAS A LARGE ORGANIZATION THAT COULD MOVE FROM GROUND ZERO TO A FULL SET OF, UH, ACTIONABLE BUDGET SAVINGS RECOMMENDATIONS WITHIN THREE MONTHS.
AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO KNOW, GIVEN YOUR TIMING RIGHT NOW.
SO, UM, I UNDERSTAND SOMETIMES WE DO DO, UM, SO, SO, UM, UM, SOLE SOURCING, ARE YOU THE ONLY PBB IN THE NATION? YES, I'M THE INVENTOR OF PRIORITY BASED BY SO YOU OWN, YOU OWN THIS TYLER PBBC? YES.
UH, AND I DON'T OWN IT ANY LONGER.
BUT YOU INVENTED IT, SO IT'S, IT'S REALLY THE ONLY MODULE THAT WILL WORK WITH THE CURRENT SYSTEMS THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.
FOR PRIORITY BASED BUDGET FOR, FOR PBB YEP.
WAS THAT ALL THAT YOU HAD, OR REMEMBER YOUR MONEY? HUH? WAS THAT ALL THAT YOU HAD? YES.
I MAY HAVE SOME MORE, BUT I'M STILL WRITING IT DOWN.
M WE CAN PROVIDE OUR SOLE SOURCE DOCUMENTATION AS WELL TO THE BODY OR, OR, OR TO DOUG TO, TO BE REVIEWED BY, BY YOU.
NO, I, I TRUST THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE CITY MANAGER, YOU KNOW, IF IT WORKED DURING HIS TENURE IN OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, AND YOU'RE THE ONLY SOURCE FOR THIS PROGRAM, I, I WOULD HAVE TO YIELD TOWARDS THIS RECOMMENDATION.
THANK YOU, MARY, THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING IN FOR THE PRESENTATION.
SO HOW MANY, UM, I NOTICED YOU WORK WITH 300 DIFFERENT MUNICIPALITIES.
I REFERENC YEAH, I REFERENCED 300.
UM, I THINK AT THIS TIME IT'S OVER 400.
300 WAS A NUMBER THAT WE USED ENTERING TYLER TECHNOLOGIES.
WE CONTINUE TO REFERENCE IT FOR ALL OF THE DATA THAT'S IN THE DATABASE.
HOW MANY OF THOSE ARE IN CALIFORNIA OVER THE YEARS? UM, I CAN GET YOU THE EXACT NUMBER, BUT IT'D BE SOMEWHERE IN THE 40 OR 50 RANGE.
AND HOW MANY OF THOSE ARE SIMILAR SIZE TO THE CITY, NATIONAL CITY? GOOD NUMBER OF THEM? OH.
UH, SO I, I'LL GIVE YOU THE EXACT NUMBER, BUT, UM, IN OUR LIFETIME IN CALIFORNIA, UH, START TO GO UP AND DOWN THE COAST, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, LARGER ONES FROM RIVERSIDE, I MENTIONED LA COUNTY, UM, SMALLER ONES LIKE, UH,
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FAIRFIELD, BENICIA, SEASIDE, MONTEREY, UM, AND I CAN GET YOU GET YOU MORE OF THAT INFORMATION.ANY OF 'EM IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY THAT WE GET REFERRED TO OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS? NO, UH, NOTHING COMES TO MIND IMMEDIATELY.
UM, I AM, UM, INTERESTED IN HEARING ABOUT THE, UH, AI COMPONENT BECAUSE, UM, UH, THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERNS, UH, WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY ABOUT, UH, ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE AND WHAT IT MEANS FOR US, AND HOW, UM, LITTLE, UH, RAIL GUARDS THERE, THERE CURRENTLY ARE.
SO CAN YOU, CAN YOU ELABORATE ON THE PARTICULAR SYSTEM AND HOW YOU UTILIZE AI AND HOW WE ARE GOING TO BE ASSURED THAT THAT INFORMATION WILL STAY CONTAINED WITHIN NATIONAL CITY? GOOD.
SO, UM, THE HELPFUL TO TAKE A LOOK AT, UM, YOU'RE NOT ALONE IN THAT.
MOST COMMUNITIES RIGHT NOW WHO ARE UTILIZING AI, UM, ARE INSISTENT THAT IT IS A, A PROTECTED ENVIRONMENT.
UM, SO YOU WANT THE, YOU WANT THE BENEFIT OF, UH, AI'S PROCESSING CAPABILITIES AND ANALYTICAL CAPABILITIES FOR THE TYPE OF RECOMMENDATIONS THAT, UH, YOU WANNA BE ABLE TO BENEFIT FROM IN THIS BUDGET SHORTFALL.
UM, BUT IN TERMS OF KEEPING YOUR ENVIRONMENT PROTECTED AND SECURE, WE CHOSE WHAT IS, WHAT IS KNOWN AS A RAG ARCHITECTURE, UH, RETRIEVAL, AUGMENT AUGMENTED GENERATION, RAG IS THE ACRONYM.
WITHOUT GOING INTO, UM, UH, TOO MUCH, TOO MUCH DETAIL, THE IDEA IS THAT YOUR DATA IS PROTECTED, UH, IN A, IN A DATABASE THAT NEVER GOES OUT INTO BEING SHARED WITH OPEN AI, UH, OR, UM, GEMINI OR ANTHROPIC.
UH, AND THE LARGE LANGUAGE MODEL CONSIDERS IT'S ONLY, UH, THE ONLY AVAILABLE INFORMATION TO BE YOUR DATA.
SO YOU ARE PROTECTED AGAINST HALLUCINATION, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, BECAUSE IF ALL IT KNOWS IS THAT YOUR PROGRAM INVENTORY AND YOUR PROGRAM COSTS, AND YOU ASK IT ABOUT WHAT'S TAKING PLACE IN THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO, THE ANSWER WILL BE IT DOESN'T KNOW.
IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY OF THAT DATA VERIFIED STORED.
UM, SO THE, THE POINT OF THIS PARTICULAR ARCHITECTURE IS TO KEEP YOUR DATA, UH, FROM NOT BEING SHARED OPENLY.
IT'S NOT AS IF YOU TOOK YOUR BUDGET AND WENT TO A LARGE LANGUAGE MODEL AGAIN, LIKE OPEN AI AND POSTED IT THERE.
UM, THIS IS, UH, PRIVATE INFORMATION, UH, AND IS MAINTAINED, KEPT SECURE.
THAT ARCHITECTURE MAKES SENSE.
IS THAT THE NATURE OF THE, THE PRIVACY QUESTION? I MEAN, YES AND NO.
BUT BECAUSE YOU WOULD BE THE, UM, WHO WOULD ULTIMATELY BE THE OWNERS OF THAT DATA, THAT WOULD BE, UH, SUGGESTING SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT A CITY OF OUR SIZE, UH, WOULD MAKE.
UM, SO THE DATA IS, IS DEVELOPED COLLABORATIVELY.
WE MAKE OUR, OUR PREDICTIONS BASED ON YOUR LINE ITEM DATA AROUND THE PROGRAMS THAT YOU OFFER AND THEIR COST MODEL.
AND THAT DATA IS THEN USED COMPARED WITH OUR DATABASE OF CASE STUDIES AND INNOVATIONS FOR, REMEMBER WHEN I WAS SHARING OTHER EXAMPLES OF JURISDICTIONS WHO GENERATED NEW REVENUE OR SAVED MONEY? THAT'S OUR DATABASE OF PROVEN PEER BACKED CASE STUDIES THAT WE'RE SHARING WITH YOU TO BENEFIT AS WE PATTERN MATCH YOUR PROGRAMS WITH THOSE POSSIBLE RECOMMENDATIONS OVER OVERALL I SEE THAT IT DOES HELPFUL.
UM, SO YOU ALL ARE GOING TO, UM, UH, IF WE MOVE FORWARD, UTILIZE THE DATA OF OUR CITY THAT WE WOULD THEN PROVIDE, AND YOU ALL WOULD HAVE, UM, PREVIOUS EXAMPLES OF OTHER MUNICIPALITIES WHERE THIS HAS OCCURRED, AND THEN MAKE SUGGESTED CHANGES AND MODIFICATIONS TOWARDS OUR CITY SO WE CAN BE A MORE EFFICIENT OPERATION.
DOES THAT SOUND ABOUT RIGHT? YEP.
EFFICIENCY IS, IS ONE EL YOU, I WOULD SAY YOU'RE, YOU'RE VASTLY RIGHT.
UM, SO WE'RE, WE'RE TAKING IN YOUR DATA BECAUSE WE WANT IT TO BE SPECIFIC.
THIS ISN'T, AS OPPOSED TO A CANNED SET OF POSSIBLE RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT A DEPARTMENT.
WE WANT IT TO BE SPECIFIC TO YOUR PROGRAMS AND YOUR STAFF AND YOUR OPERATING LINE ITEM BUDGET AND YOUR REVENUES.
UH, WE TAKE, WE APPLY OUR, UM, ANALYTICAL ENGINE TO THEN TRANSLATE YOUR DATA INTO WHAT PROGRAMS ARE YOU PROVIDING, WHAT IS YOUR COST STRUCTURE, AND WE VERIFY THAT TOGETHER WITH STAFF FOR QUALITY CONTROL.
YES, WE'RE LOOKING AT EFFICIENCIES, THAT'S TO STREAMLINE OPERATION, BUT WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT ALTERNATIVE REVENUE IDEAS.
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THE STREET SWEEPING EXAMPLE WAS WHAT IF YOU ARE SUBSIDIZING A PROGRAM WITH THE GENERAL FUND AND THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO FUND IT THAT OTHER COMMUNITIES HAVE DONE, WOULDN'T WE WANNA KNOW? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD CONSIDER HERE? IT'S NOT NECESSARILY AN EFFICIENCY, IT'S A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FUNDING MODEL AND A RE-IMAGINATION OF, UM, HOW YOU PERHAPS SURVIVE THE BUDGET SHORTFALL WHILE PRESERVING SERVICES.AND SIMILARLY ON THE COST SAVINGS OR COST SHARING SIDE, WE'RE LOOKING AT PARTNERSHIP, UH, OPPORTUNITIES AND, UM, UH, OTHER JURISDICTIONS HERE IN YOUR REGION WHERE YOU COULD SHARE A SERVICE MUCH LIKE YOU DO WITH, UH, CHULA VISTA AND ANIMAL, UM, SHELTERING SERVICES THAT WE SAW, UM, THAT ARE ALREADY ON THIS PATH.
YEAH, NO, THAT'S, THAT'S HELPFUL.
UM, UH, THE EXAMPLES POST HERE WERE, UH, OVERWHELMINGLY PUBLIC WORKS.
SO NOT TO PICK IN OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.
UM, UH, UH, MAYBE THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE STREAMLINE SOME OF THE WORK THAT WE DO.
AND I'VE, I'VE SPOKEN PRIVATELY WITH OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.
I KNOW WE DO WONDERFUL WORK, BUT THERE MAY BE OPPORTUNITIES TO STREAMLINE, AND I'M SURE THAT THAT COULD BE THE CASE IN EVERY SINGLE DEPARTMENT.
RIGHT? AND, AND MAYBE THAT'S THE POINT.
MAYBE FIVE TO 10% PER DEPARTMENT COULD LEAD US ULTIMATE, THAT HAS A COST ASSOCIATED TO IT.
UM, AND I, I WOULD ALSO, UM, AS PART OF THIS DISCUSSION, I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR THAT THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY YOU, AS YOU MENTIONED, THAT THE PUBLIC WORKS IS DOING GREAT WORK.
WE WOULD ASSUME THAT EVERY DEPARTMENT IS DOING GREAT WORK.
AND SO AN ALTERNATIVE FUNDING MODEL DOES NOT CHALLENGE IF THE WORK IS, IS QUALITY OR NOT QUALITY.
IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO RECONSIDER HOW DO WE PRESERVE THIS PROGRAM IN THE FACE OF A BUDGET SHORTFALL, UH, WHEN THE GENERAL FUND DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO GO AROUND.
BUT WE STILL WANT THIS PROGRAM TO BE PROVIDED.
IT'S NOT ABOUT IS IT PERFORMING? IS IT, UM, A GOOD PROGRAM OR A WELL-MANAGED PROGRAM? IT IS, IS THERE ANOTHER OPTION TO OPTIMIZE THE RESOURCES? THAT'S WHAT WE'RE FOCUSED ON.
I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT I MAKE THAT DIFFERENTIATION.
AND AGAIN, SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC WORKS, STREET SWEEPING IS SOMETHING I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR MANY YEARS AND MAKING THE PROGRAM MORE EFFICIENT.
AND I LOVE THE GREAT WORK THAT WE DO.
UH, BUT I THINK THERE'S, UM, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, WITH ADDITIONAL SUPPORT OPPORTUNITY TO, TO MAKE, MAKE IT BETTER FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
AND SO I, UM, SMARTER ROUTES, RIGHT? FEWER PASSES NEEDED, DEPENDING ON WHERE WE GO.
LIKE A LOT OF THOSE THINGS MAYBE CAN BE IDENTIFIED.
AND HONESTLY, OUR DIRECTORS ARE DEALING WITH SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS.
IT'S HARD TO KIND OF FOCUS ON ONE SPECIFIC TASK AND FIGURE THIS OUT ON HOW WE CAN OPTIMIZE THIS SPECIFIC PROGRAM.
SO IT IS, UM, I, I DO SEE THE BENEFIT IN IT.
I AM WEARY BECAUSE OF THE, UM, METHOD UTILIZED, WHICH IS OUR ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE AND A LOT OF THE CONCERNS AT THIS MOMENT.
BUT IF IT IS A, UH, PROTECTED SYSTEM, IT, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT WOULD BE A GOOD PROGRAM TO IMPLEMENT HERE AT THE CITY, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING OUR FINANCIAL HEALTH.
UM, MR. CHRIS OR MR. FABIAN, UM, UH, YOU SPECIFIED IN, IN, IN THIS, UM, SLIDES, AND I'M READING IT, IT SAYS, SOME OF OUR PROGRAMS OR PROJECTS WE PARTNER WITH OTHER AGENCIES.
LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE CLEANUP.
UM, YES, WE HAVE CALTRANS, WE TURN BLUE AND STILL THEY'RE STILL NOT THERE.
SO, YOU KNOW, MEAN, HOW ARE YOU GONNA CON TAKE THAT IN CONSIDERATION? LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, HOMELESSNESS, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THE FUNDING IS WITH THE COUNTY.
WE TURN BLUE, BUT WE STILL DON'T GET IT.
BUT WE STILL HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF, OF THOSE, OF THOSE HELP THAT WE NEED IN ORDER TO, TO PROTECT THE SAFETY OF OUR RESIDENTS.
SO HOW WILL YOU TAKE THOSE IN CONSIDERATION THAT WE DO HAVE OTHER AGENCY PARTNERS THAT ARE PUBLIC AGENCY PARTNERS THAT HAVE THE FUNDING, BUT WE AS A CITY DON'T GET IT.
UM, SO ONE OF THE KEY ASPECTS IN THE SCORING PROCESS, UH, AND I DIDN'T GO INTO IT IN IN ENORMOUS DETAIL, BUT IS, UM, IS THE DEGREE OF RELIANCE.
SO HOW RELIANT ARE THOSE WHO BENEFIT FROM THE PROGRAM RELIANT ON YOU AS A SERVICE PROVIDER VERSUS ARE THERE OTHER POTENTIAL PARTNERS, UH, THAT WE CAN LOOK OUT TO ACROSS THE REGION? AND THOSE POTENTIAL PARTNERS ARE GOING TO BE EITHER LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, THEY COULD BE NONPROFIT, THEY COULD BE THE PRIVATE SECTOR, THEY COULD BE STATE GOVERNMENT.
UM, SO THE, THE RELIANCE EXAMINATION IS, IS MEANT TO BE COM COMPREHENSIVE TO SEE WHAT ARE THE POSSIBILITIES, UH, FOR PARTNERSHIP.
NOW, WE MIGHT VERY WELL GO FORWARD AND SAY, UH, IT APPEARS TO US THAT THERE ARE NO OTHER PARTNERS.
THERE'S NOBODY ELSE WHO YOU COULD PARTNER WITH.
AND SO THEN WE HAVE TO TURN TO THE OTHER SCORING CRITERIA AND SAY, UM, YOU'RE THE ONLY POSSIBLE PROVIDER.
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RELATE TO THE PRIORITIES OF THIS COMMUNITY? IF IT'S VERY HIGH, THEN YOU HAVE TO, YOU HAVE A TOUGHER CHOICE.WELL, THE ONLY POSSIBLE PROVIDER, AND THIS PROGRAM'S VITAL, UH, TO THIS CONSTITUENCY AS OPPOSED TO THE PROGRAM IS LOWER ON THE PRIORITY SCALE, WHICH YOU WILL SEE.
YOU'LL HAVE SOME PROGRAMS THAT YOU'RE THE ONLY POSSIBLE PROVIDER FOR A PROGRAM THAT MATTERS RELATIVELY LESS TO YOUR PRIORITIES OVERALL.
THEN WE EXAMINE DEGREE OF MANDATE.
WE EXAMINE OPPORTUNITY FOR FUNDING OR COST RECOVERY.
IS THERE A FEE THAT IS APPROPRIATE TO CONSIDER AT ALL FOR THOSE WHO ARE BENEFITING FROM THIS PROGRAM? UM, IS THERE A GRANT THAT COULD BE MADE POSSIBLE? IS THERE A COST SHARING ON THE COST SIDE OF THINGS OVERALL? UH, SO IF I, IF I'M DOING MY JOB, I'M WALKING US THROUGH HOW YOU TAKE ANY GIVEN PROGRAM AND DEPENDING ON HOW IT SCORES, HIGH DEGREE OF RELIANCE, LOW DEGREE OF RELIANCE, HIGH DEGREE OF MANDATE, LOW MANDATE, PAYING FOR ITSELF TODAY COULD PAY FOR ITSELF WITH THE HELP OF PARTNERS.
UM, YOU'RE THE ONLY, UH, PROVIDER AND YOU'RE, UH, BEARING THE FULL COST OF PROVIDING THAT PROGRAM VERSUS COULD YOU SHARE IT? THAT'S THE SYSTEM.
UH, MR. FABIAN, THOSE, UM, NUMBERS IN THE GRAPH THAT YOU HAD SHOWN EARLIER WASN'T SHARED WITH THE, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT RC TWO MANAGER CAN, CAN SHARE TO US? 'CAUSE YES.
YES, THANK YOU, MR. UM, YEAH, JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND I, I THINK WHAT I'M SEEING HERE IS, IS A REALIZATION ALSO THAT NO TWO CITIES ARE ALIKE.
EVERYONE HAS, ARE VERY UNIQUE, AND YOU CAN'T GO BY SIZE BECAUSE I, I KNOW SOME CITIES THAT ARE, HAVE A 60,000 POPULATION AND THEY'RE 70 SQUARE MILES.
WE'RE 6.2 SQUARE MILES, OR 7.2 SQUARE MILES.
AND THEN, UM, AT THE SAME TIME, WE'RE AIR, WE'RE AN URBAN CITY.
THAT'S A SMALL URBAN CITY THAT IS COMPLETELY, YOU KNOW, DOESN'T HAVE ANY REAL BOUNDARIES.
I MEAN, BETWEEN US AND SAN DIEGO AND CHULA VISTA, IT'S ONE SIDE OF THE STREET AND THE OTHER.
AND, UH, SO, YOU KNOW, THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS, WE'RE KIND OF UNIQUE IN BEING A SMALL URBAN CITY THAT IS A FULL SERVICE CITY.
SO, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, YOU START ADDING ALL THESE, AND SO EVERY CITY HAS ITS OWN UNIQUENESS.
AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I, I KINDA LIKE ABOUT THIS.
'CAUSE YOU'RE NOT TRYING TO BOX THE WHOLE THING AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT CATEGORIES AND, AND LOOK AT THE PIECES INSTEAD OF TRYING TO LOOK AT, TRYING TO LOOK AT A WHOLE PACKAGE.
AND, UH, SO, YOU KNOW, THAT PART, UM, I LIKE, AND AT THE SAME TIME, I KNOW THAT YOU, YOU WORKED WITH OUR CITY MANAGER, UM, UP IN, UH, WASHINGTON.
UM, BUT THAT WAS A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO.
AND, UH, SO WHAT YOU HAD TO DO AT THAT POINT, AND THE TIME IT TOOK YOU AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS DIFFERENT THAN NOW, BECAUSE PROBABLY THE LETTERS AI PROBABLY WERE STOOD FOR SOMETHING ELSE BACK IN THOSE DAYS.
AND, UH, THE, UH, UM, DOES IT MEAN THAT, HUH? HUH? WHAT DOES IT MEAN? YEAH, I, I'M SAYING THOSE LETTERS OH, OH, FOR AI PROBABLY STOOD FOR SOMETHING ELSE INSTEAD OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE.
AND, UM, THE, UH, SO IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, THING I LIKE, I DO LIKE ABOUT THIS CONCEPT IS THAT IT DOES GIVE US SOME REAL TIME TYPE, TYPE OF INFORMATION THAT CAN BE ADJUSTED, THAT YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK AND, AND, AND HAVE SOME HAVE, YOU KNOW, AS VARIABLES, UH, POP UP IN THERE AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
AND AS YOU SEE MORE INFORMATION COMES IN, YOU DON'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR A CONSULTANT TO GET BACK TO YOU IN HOW MANY MONTHS, UH, YOU KNOW, TO REEVALUATE AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
UM, YOU, YOU GET MUCH MORE CLOSER TO REAL TIME INFORMATION.
UM, SO THAT, YOU KNOW THAT, THAT, THAT PART IS EXTREMELY INTERESTING.
AND, AND I DO FEEL THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CAN GET US TO THAT POINT.
I DO, I DO TRUST IN THE CITY MANAGER AND THE EXPERIENCE THAT HE'S HAD WITH IT AND WHAT WE'VE SEEN WITH OTHER, OTHER COMMUNITIES.
UM, BUT IT IS A WAY TO LOOK AT RESIZING AND RETHINKING IN WHICH WE DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, DESPERATELY NEED TO DO.
AND AT THE SAME TIME, IT GIVES US AS ELECTIVES, IT GIVES US SOME COVER MM-HMM
BECAUSE NOW YOU'RE GETTING SOME INFORMATION COMING AND SAYING, HEY, HERE'S THIS, THIS, AND THIS.
INSTEAD OF US JUST LOOKING AT A BLANK SLATE WITHOUT US NECESSARILY HAVING THE KIND OF KNOWLEDGE TO DO ALL THAT.
AND A LOT OF TIMES MAKING DECISIONS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, HAS PERSONAL BIASES OR HAS POLITICAL BIASES OR WHATEVER ELSE TO MAKE THESE KIND OF DECISIONS THAT DESPERATELY NEED TO BE MADE WITHIN OUR CITY.
AND WITHOUT TAKING THIS LONG, DRAWN OUT TIME TO DO IT.
UM, AND I SAY, 'CAUSE WE JUST, WE JUST CAN'T AFFORD TO DO THAT AT THIS STAGE OF THE GAME.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, I REALIZE THAT THERE IS A COST TO THIS, BUT IF WE CAN, IF WE CAN SPEND NICKELS TO MAKE DOLLARS,
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UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UH, UH, TO WE LOOK AT.IF THIS WAS JUST COMING TO US BLANK OUT OF THE BLUE, IT WOULD BE DIFFERENT.
UM, I THINK WITH, WITH OUR CITY MANAGER'S EXPERIENCE, UH, WITH THIS, I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF A TRUST FACTOR THERE ON THAT.
WE'VE ASKED, WE BROUGHT HIM IN, KIND OF THREW HIM INTO, UH, UH, I GUESS HELL IN HIGH WATER, UH, AND SAID, YOU KNOW, COME UP WITH SOME IDEAS.
AND THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS HE'S COME UP WITH SAYING THAT THIS, THIS CAN BE A FRAMEWORK TO GET US AS SOON AS POSSIBLE TO WHERE WE NEED TO GET.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AND SAY IT'S GONNA TAKE SOME TIME.
BUT, BUT THIS IS, THIS IS THE PROBABLY THE FASTEST WAY TO GET US TO THAT TYPE OF A POINT AND GET US, UH, THE TOOLS THAT WE NEED TO DO IT.
FASCINATING, FASCINATING STUFF.
I'M SORRY,
THE RIGHT PURPOSE TECHNICALLY ORIENTED, TECHNICALLY, OR, OKAY.
IS IS THAT, IS THAT THE PC WAY OF SAYING IT'S ONE OF THEM.
BUT, UH, UH, BUT ANYWAY, I, I THINK IT, IT'S, IT'S A FASCINATING WAY TO LOOK AT AT LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
AND WE NEED TO, BECAUSE ALL TOO OFTEN WE KEEP DOING THE WAY THINGS, THE WAY THEY HAVE BEEN DONE.
AND WE JUST KEEP BUILDING UPON THAT.
AND WITHOUT, IT MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT TO GO BACK AND TAKE A LOOK FRESH LOOK.
AND, UH, SO THIS DOES GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO, UH, TO HAVE THE TOOLS TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
UH, WE DO HAVE SOME SPEAKER SLIPS ON THIS ONE.
OKAY, LET'S GO AHEAD AND LET'S, LET'S HEAR IT FROM THE PUBLIC.
CESAR JAVIER, FOLLOWED BY THOMAS RE, FOLLOWED BY CYNTHIA FULLER.
GOD, YOU CREATED US IN YOUR IMAGE.
THESE PEOPLE ARE INTELLIGENT AND THE MARKETING IS, UH, OKAY, BUT IT DOES NOT NECESSARILY FOR US TO EAT IT.
THIS IS, UH, RELATED TO 9.4, UH, 9.6, WHICH I MISS TO PARTICIPATE.
YEAH, WE WE'RE, WE'RE ALREADY PAST THAT.
WE HAVE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
THAT'S THE FOUNDATION OF WHAT WE ARE GOING TO.
I SAID MY TWO IDEAS, HIERARCHY OF POLITICAL LEADERSHIP, PROBABLY WE SUGGEST, UH, THIS, THIS AI THING BE AT THE COUNTY LEVEL.
SO IT WOULD HAVE THAT KIND OF CONSISTENCY THROUGHOUT THE REGION.
I FAILED TO ASK THESE PEOPLE, THESE BRIGHT PEOPLE, WHAT KIND OF PRIORITY IN OUR SITUATION NOW, CHALLENGING TIME, WHICH NORA VARGAS HAS DECLARED CRISIS BECAUSE OF THIS BORDER.
WHAT CAN YOU SAY THERE? WE HAVE IDENTIFIED THE PRIORITY, BUT OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS FROM COUNTY DOWN FROM STATE, FEDERAL, THERE IS NO SINGLE MONEY, SINGLE AMOUNT OF MONEY.
HOW DO YOU COMMENT ON THAT? HOW COULD THIS AI FORCE THEM, HEY, MY AI, YOU GIVE, CONTRIBUTE.
YOU KNOW, WHEN SOMEBODY DIED IN OUR COMMUNITY, WE VOLUNTEERED AND WE WERE ABLE TO COLLECT AT LEAST 1,100 IN SIX DAYS TO HELP THE BRAVE FAMILIES.
THAT'S THE CONCEPT THAT WE WOULD LIKE.
PARTICULARLY THE ENVIRONMENTAL EXPERT.
THOMAS WRE, FOLLOWED BY CYNTHIA FULLER.
QUINONE FOLLOWED BY EDWARD NIETO.
AI IS GOING TO MAKE DECISION CUTTING SERVICES, DUCKING PERSONAL PERSONAL ACCOUNTABILITY.
UH, WHAT IS THE RECORD IN OTHER, OTHER CITIES IN LOS ANGELES? ARE THEY ANY BETTER OFF THAN THEY IS CHICAGO OR NEW YORK? THESE ARE TYLER.
I PUT A HUNDRED DOLLARS IN THE TAYLOR CORPORATION.
IT WENT UP, HIT NEW HIGHS, BUT NOW I'M DOWN $20.
CYNTHIA UNE, FOLLOWED BY EDWARD NIETO.
GOOD EVENING MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER, STAFF, AND ALL HERE TONIGHT.
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MY NAME IS CYNTHIA FULLER ES I'M SPEAKING AS A RESIDENT AND LOCAL HEALTH ADVOCATE.THIS ADDS TO MY SUBMITTED COMMENT OPPOSING TYLER TECHNOLOGIES, PBB MODULE APPROVAL AS CURRENTLY PROPOSED FIRST COMPLETE COMPETITIVE ANALYSIS AND COST JUSTIFICATION IS LACKING FOR SUCH A LARGE EXPENDITURE.
OTHER CALIFORNIA CITIES IN CRISIS HAVE RECOVERED WITHOUT INCURRING THE EXPENSE OF PBB INSTEAD, CHOOSING ALTERNATIVES LIKE PARTICIPATE PARTICIPATORY BUDGETING, WHICH IT SEEMS WE HAVEN'T LOOKED AT.
PBB SHOULDN'T BE APPROVED WITHOUT INSURING IT CAN AND WILL EXPLICITLY INCORPORATE ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE INTO, UM, THE PRIORITY SETTING AND SCORING PROCESS.
WITH FULL TRANSPARENCY FOR ALL COMMUNITY MEMBERS, AN APPROVED BALANCE OF BOTH ECONOMIC AND ENVIRONMENTAL PERFORMANCE IS KEY TO NATIONAL CITY'S FUTURE AS PROPOSED.
THERE'S NO INDICATION THAT PBB MODULE WILL ALSO PRIORITIZE THE LATTER IN A TRANSPARENT WAY WITH ESSENTIAL COMMUNITY INPUT.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT NATIONAL CITY COMMUNITY ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE, UH, COMMITMENTS HAVE BEEN, UH, UNDERWAY SINCE, UH, 2005.
LIKE OTHER COMMUNITY MEMBERS, I HAVE YET TO FIND ANY COMPREHENSIVE REPORT OR SCORECARD MEASURING CITY ACHIEVEMENTS AGAINST THE ELEMENT, UH, USING QUANTITATIVE METRICS.
WE NEED THIS KIND OF DATA JUST LIKE WE NEED BUDGET DATA BEFORE WE MAKE DECISIONS, UH, ON WHAT'S TO GO FORWARD FOR OUR CITY.
SUCH INDICATORS OF PERFORMANCE, UH, SHOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR PRIORITIZE, UH, WHATEVER, WHATEVER PRIORITIZATION TOOL, UH, IS FOUND TO BE MOST COST JUSTIFIED, UH, FOR GO FORWARD DECISION MAKING.
EDWARD NIETO, FOLLOWED BY MCKAYLA POLANCO.
UH, MY COMMENTS WERE BASED ON THE ONE PAGE WE GOT NOW THAT I SAW THE PRESENTATION.
IT WAS A GOOD PRESENTATION, BUT I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
AND YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME HERE.
YOU KNOW, IT'S A SHAME THAT WE HAVE TO BASE YOUR DECISION ON THE 250,000 DECISION AND ROUGHLY MAYBE A 10 MINUTE DISCUSSION.
IT'S SO IMPORTANT BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT'S SETTING THE TONE FOR GETTING US IN A RECOVERY.
AND IT'S CRITICAL AND YOU ONLY HAVE ONE PERSON, ONE SHOT.
SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S REALLY BAD IN TERMS OF, UH, OUR OPPORTUNITIES.
BUT I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THE PROGRAM.
IS IT THE SAME THING AS A PROJECT? BUT I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT THING, THERE'S SOME QUESTIONS I THINK YOU GUYS NEED TO ASK A LITTLE BIT MORE.
IT TOOK US HOW MANY YEARS, THREE YEARS TO PUT THE, THE, THE MUNI SYSTEM AND IT'S STILL NOT COMPLETE.
DO WE HAVE THE PROJECT SYS MODULATE? I HAVEN'T HEARD THE STATUS OF THAT.
WASN'T THERE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE GRANT MODULE? ISN'T THE PROJECT AND GRANT MODULE SUPPOSED TO BE THE SAME THING? IF YOU HAD THAT INFORMATION HERE, WOULDN'T IT ACCOMPLISH ABOUT THE SAME THING? YOU KNOW, WHERE'S, WHAT'S THE STATUS? HOW, HOW LONG ARE, YOU KNOW, WHAT WAS THE, I'M SURE IT WAS SUCCESSFUL, BUT WAS IT THE SAME CIRCUMSTANCES THAT WE HAVE NOW WHERE WE HAVE AN INCOMPLETE MODULE THAT'S PUT IN AND WE'RE BUYING A $250,000 MODULE THAT MIGHT BE BUILT ON THE OTHER MODULES? I'M NOT SURE.
I WISH SOMEBODY WOULD EXPLAIN THAT.
AND I JUST WOULD HATE TO HAVE THESE PEOPLE OVER COMMIT THEMSELVES IN GETTING THIS DONE IMMEDIATELY.
AND I LIKE TO HEAR A GUARANTEE THAT IT GETS DONE IMMEDIATELY.
MCKAYLA POLANCO, I, UH, PAID VERY CLOSE ATTENTION TO ALMOST EVERY WORD.
BOTH OF THESE GENTLEMEN SET UP HERE, AND I THINK THEY, THEY HAVE A LOT OF GREAT IDEAS.
I THINK THE SYSTEM SEEMS TO BE A VERY GOOD SYSTEM.
I'M NOT SURE I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH IT.
UM, I AM CONCERNED ABOUT IF THE CITY WOULD OWN THE ACTUAL SOFTWARE OR ARE THEY GONNA RENT THE SOFTWARE? WHAT IS THE COST OF THAT SOFTWARE? UM, THAT WOULD BE A CONCERN.
UM, AT LEAST IN OUR BUSINESS, WE HAVE A SOFTWARE SYSTEM AND THAT SYSTEM, YOU HAVE TO RENT IT.
SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I WOULD BE, UM, ASKING, UH, IF THIS SYSTEM IS GONNA BE PURCHASED FOR THE $250,000.
BUT THEN WHO'S GONNA MAINTAIN IT? WHAT IF THERE'S GLITCHES? WHO'S GONNA UPDATE IT? WHO'S GONNA, IF IT BREAKS DOWN, WHO'S GONNA FIX IT? GARBAGE IN, GARBAGE OUT.
SO, UH, WITHOUT KNOWING A WHOLE LOT OF INFORMATION, I REALLY CAN'T SAY MUCH.
I JUST, THOSE ARE SOME, AS AS,
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AS THEY WERE TALKING, I WAS WRITING SOME OF THESE, UH, QUESTIONS DOWN.AND, UM, THE OTHER THING IS FOCUSING ON THE BUDGET.
THEY HAVE A LOT OF GREAT IDEAS ON GRANTS AND PART PARTNERSHIPS.
UH, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF POTENTIAL FOR NATIONAL CITY, AND I'M EXCITED FOR THE FUTURE.
I REALLY, REALLY, FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART, I'M EXCITED FOR NATIONAL CITY FOR A NEW BEGINNING.
AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD, WORK TOGETHER, AND MOVE PAST ALL OF OUR DIFFERENCES.
I TRULY HOPE THAT GOD WILL BE WITH US TO GIVE US COURAGE AND GIVE US STRENGTH TO BE BETTER.
THAT CONCLUDES ALL PUBLIC COMMENT.
QUESTION AN ADDITIONAL QUESTION, MAYOR.
UM, FOR OUR PRESENTER, I DO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL QUESTION.
UM, SOME OF THE SPEAKERS BROUGHT UP KEY POINTS, UH, ONE BEING, UM, WE ARE AWARE OF, UH, THE FINANCIAL SYSTEM MUNIS WHEN IT CAME ON BOARD, AND THE GROWING PAIN FOR IMPLEMENTATION AND GETTING STAFF FULLY, YOU KNOW, UH, TO WORK WITH IT TRAINED AND ALL THIS AND ALL THAT.
AND, AND I THINK, UM, UH, THAT BRINGS A EXCELLENT POINT HERE.
HOW MUCH, UM, YOU KNOW, TIME AND ENERGY AND, AND ARE PEOPLE, PEOPLE AT CITY STAFF GOING TO HAVE TO PUT INTO THIS TO MAKE IT WORK AND TO MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, TO OPTIMIZE IT? UM, THE QUESTION THAT WAS JUST ASKED, YOU KNOW, DOES THE CITY END UP OWNING THE SOFTWARE, THE PROGRAM? AND WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR BUGS? YOU KNOW, FIXING BUGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AND MAINTENANCE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENTS AS WELL.
UH, SO AS FAR AS TRAINING ON THE PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING, DATA CREATION, ANALYTICS, AND DECISION MAKING, THIS IS A, THIS IS NOT AN IMPLEMENTATION OF AN ERP SYSTEM.
AN ERP IS A MUCH MORE COMPLICATED, SUBSTANTIAL SYSTEM THAT HANDLES, UH, NUMEROUS BUSINESS FUNCTIONS.
AND SO, UM, I CAN, UH, HOPEFULLY EASE YOUR MIND THAT THE TRAINING IS SUBSTANTIALLY LESS TO PRODUCE A PRIORITY BASED BUDGET PROCESS.
IT'S NOT COMPARABLE NECESSARILY TO AN ERP FOR THE LEVEL OF HOURS AND COMPLEXITY OVERALL.
UM, UH, AS FAR AS THE, THE THREE MONTH PROPOSAL, SORRY, THREE YEAR PROPOSAL, UM, THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE TERM, WE ARE YOUR SUPPORT TEAM FOR ANY SOFTWARE NEEDS.
IT'S ESTABLISHED IN THE, UH, TERMS AND CONDITIONS FOR TURNAROUND TIME, UM, FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT STAFF IS ASKING OF US.
UM, THE SERVICE LEVEL AGREEMENT FOR HOW FAST WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND IN A TIMELY MANNER.
UM, THE DATA THAT YOU PRODUCE IS YOUR DATA.
IF YOU DO NOT WORK WITH US EVER AGAIN, THIS IS YOUR INFORMATION.
UH, AND ORGANIZATIONS DO USE THIS DATA, UH, BEYOND WORKING WITH US AS WELL FOR THEIR ONGOING NEEDS.
UH, AS I WAS MENTIONING, THERE WILL BE RESOURCE CONSTRAINTS OR RESOURCE CHALLENGES IN THE FUTURE.
AND YOU, IF YOU ARE LIKE OUR OTHER CLIENTS, WILL CONTINUE TO USE THE INFORMATION THAT YOU PRODUCE, UM, AS YOUR OWN.
NOW, THE SOFTWARE ITSELF IS THE MODEL IS SOFTWARE AS A SUBSCRIPTION.
AND THE BENEFIT OF THAT IS THAT AS THESE TOOLS EVOLVE AND DEVELOP, YOU GET ALL THE BENEFITS OF, UM, THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE PRODUCE.
UH, AND WE HAVE MANY DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE IN OUR PRODUCT ROADMAP, UH, THAT YOU'LL CONTINUE TO ENJOY.
BUT THE REASON IT'S A THREE YEAR PERIOD IS YOU HAVE THREE YEARS OF WORKING WITH US FOR THE SERVICES AND HOURS THAT WE PROVIDE FOR COACHING AND TRAINING TO STAFF, TO THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, AND TO ELECTED OFFICIALS ALONG THE WAY.
UM, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE PAYING FOR IS OUR SUPPORT SERVICES IN ADDITION TO ACCESS TO THE, AN ANALYTICAL POWER OF THE SOFTWARE.
THE WORK THAT YOU'VE JUST DESCRIBED FOR THE THREE YEARS, YES.
THAT'S, THAT THE, THE PAYMENT OR THE, THE COST OF THAT WORK IS THE TWO 50? YES, THAT'S TRUE FOR THREE YEARS.
IT'S SOFTWARE PLUS SERVICES AND TRAINING STAFF AND TRAINING WORKING.
ON KEY CONCEPTS AND HOW TO USE THIS DATA.
UM, BUT IT'S ALSO COLLABORATIVE WORK AS AN INSIGHT MOVES TOWARDS A RECOMMENDATION.
QUESTIONS WILL BE HOW DO WE CREATE THE PARTNERSHIP? HOW DO WE, UH, APPLY FOR THIS GRANT? HOW HAVE OTHER COMMUNITIES BEEN ABLE TO DO THIS? UM, SO IT'S A CONSULTATIVE NATURE AS WELL, UM, BEYOND JUST TRAINING ON HOW TO USE THE SOFTWARE.
UM, SOMETHING WAS BROUGHT UP, UH, THE WORD MUNIS HAS COME UP SEVERAL TIMES NOW.
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WITH A LOT OF COMPANIES ANYMORE, YOU HAVE CONGLOMERATE TYPE COMPANIES AND THEY HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT PRODUCTS, A LOT OF DIFFERENT COMPANIES THAT ARE KIND OF UNDER, IS YOUR PROGRAM DEPENDENT UPON US HAVING MUNIS OR IS IT COMPATIBLE WITH OTHER PROGRAMS? IT'S COMPATIBLE WITH OTHER ERPS AS WELL.SO WE, WE DEFINITELY HAVE CLIENTS WHO DO NOT HAVE MUNIS OR ENTERPRISE ERP, RIGHT? OR EDEN.
UM, WE HAVE CLIENTS THAT DO NOT HAVE A TYLER ERP SYSTEM.
UM, SO OUR TOOLS ARE ADEPT AND TRAINED AT ANALYZING GENERAL LEDGER AND, UH, FINANCIAL INFORMATION.
BUT IT'S BASICALLY THAT TYLER HAS BOUGHT A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT COMPANIES AND THEY ALL, THEY ALL HAVE THEIR OWN FUNCTIONS.
BUT THEY'RE STILL, THEY'RE SEPARATE.
THEY'RE SEPARATE, BUT THEY'RE UNDER UNDER ONE ONE CONGLOMERATE.
I MEAN, I, I CAN PUT IT THAT WAY.
THAT'S A FAIR WAY TO TO PUT IT.
UM, I WOULD SAY IN MY TIME AT TYLER, UM, ALTHOUGH I WAS A SEPARATE COMPANY, UH, BACK IN 2023, UM, MY ROLE IS AS PRODUCT STRATEGIST TO TAKE PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING AS WELL AS OTHER TYLER BUDGETING TOOLS, UM, PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT TOOLS, UH, ERP TOOLS, AND INTEGRATE AND FIGURE OUT HOW DO THEY WORK TOGETHER TO BRING ABOUT THE BEST OVERALL VALUE, RIGHT.
FOR YOU WHO HAS PURCHASED ANOTHER TYLER.
BUT THEY'RE NOT DEPENDENT UPON HAVING THE OTHER PROGRAMS BECAUSE THE OTHER ONES ARE STANDALONE PROGRAMS. RIGHT.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE UNDER KIND OF UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT WE'RE NOT LOCKED, YOU KNOW, IF WE WAS CONTINUE, IF WE WAS TO GET YOUR PROGRAM AND START AND GO WITH IT, THAT MEANS IF WE WANTED TO DISCONTINUE MUNI AND GO TO SOMETHING ELSE, WE COULD DO THAT.
AND THAT STILL WOULDN'T HAVE CHANGED ANYTHING.
JUST SO, SO WE UNDER UNDERSTAND THAT ONE, IT'S NOT, NOT LOCKING THEM IN.
SO, NO, NO QUESTION RIGHT NOW FOR, UH, TYLER TECHNOLOGIES, BUT JUST FOR THE, UM, CITY MANAGER, DO WE HAVE A, OR DO YOU HAVE AN ESTIMATED, UM, COST RECOVERY OR RETURN ON INVESTMENT ESTIMATE, UH, FOR THIS, UH, TECH TECHNOLOGY? SO IF WE'RE INVESTING 250,000 OVER FIVE YEARS, WHICH BY THE WAY, JUST INHERENTLY, I, I'M, I THINK I'M AGAINST THAT AMOUNT, SO I AM INTERESTED IN TALKING TO MY COLLEAGUES BACK AND FORTH ABOUT A SMALLER AMOUNT, LIKE DOING THIS AS A PILOT FOR ONE YEAR, SIX MONTHS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT, UM, WHAT IS THE EXPECTED OR ANTICIPATED POTENTIAL RETURN ON THE INVESTMENT? 'CAUSE THAT, THAT WASN'T PROVIDED IN THE, IN THE REPORT, AND I THINK IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN, BUT WHAT, WHAT, WHAT WOULD THAT ESTIMATE BE AND WHAT WOULD THAT BE BASED ON? WELL, I THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE STUFF THAT CHRIS AND I TALKED ABOUT DURING, UH, SOME OF OUR, UH, WEB MEETINGS AND, AND HE SHOWED A LITTLE BIT OF IT HERE, UH, SOME OF THE EXPERIENCES IN OTHER CITIES, AND OF COURSE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO DEPEND ON, ON, UM, YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW ADVANCED THOSE CITIES ARE IN ACTUALLY LOOKING AT THEIR BUDGETS AND THEIR PROGRAMS AND, AND DOING THIS WORK.
AND, YOU KNOW, HE IDENTIFIED FOUR THINGS THAT NATIONAL CITY HAS ALREADY DONE.
UM, I CAN, I CAN ENVISION THERE'S, THERE'S DOZENS MORE, UH, EXAMPLES THAT WE COULD, UM, WE COULD FIND THROUGH, THROUGH USING PBV AND, YOU KNOW, TO PUT A, PUT A DOLLAR AMOUNT ON IT.
I DON'T KNOW IF CHRIS HAS LOOKED AT IT PROBABLY A LITTLE CLOSER AS FAR AS HOW THIS WOULD BE APPLIED.
SO HE, HE MAY BE ABLE TO SHARE A FIGURE.
UM, BUT I'M, I'M THINKING, YOU KNOW, WE COULD SEE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN SAVINGS.
UH, SO ORGANIZATIONS WHO IMPLEMENT PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING FOR THE PURPOSE OF RESOURCE OPTIMIZATION, UM, WILL ROUTINELY SAVE 10% OF THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THEY ANALYZE.
SO THAT'S OUR, UH, UH, EXPECTATION.
SO IF YOU PUT IN A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS, YOU SHOULD ANTICIPATE $10 MILLION.
ONGOING OPERATIONAL SAVINGS IS THE, IS THE FLOOR FOR WHAT YOU SHOULD ACHIEVE.
AND TO GO UP FROM THERE, UM, OUR INITIAL, UH, WE RAN THROUGH THE MINIMALLY AVAILABLE DATA THAT WE COULD GET OUR HANDS ON FROM PUBLICLY AVAILABLE DATA AND WE SAID 8.8 MILLION, UH, SEEMED REASONABLE.
AND IN THE, IN THE FACE OF THE TYPE OF, UH, BUDGET SHORTFALLS THAT YOU ARE EXPERIENCING, THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE THE MINIMUM GOAL.
OFTENTIMES THE COMMUNITY WILL SET THE GOAL AND THEN WE WORK OUR WAY TOWARDS IDENTIFYING INSIGHTS AND BENCHMARKING AND REVENUE ALTERNATIVES AND COST SAVINGS, UM, TO ACHIEVE NOTHING LESS THAN THAT GOAL.
SO, IN OTHER WORDS, WHAT WILL IT TAKE TO HIT $10 MILLION IN SAVINGS? 12 MILLION, $15 MILLION IN SAVINGS? UM, WE PRODUCE FAR MORE THAN THAT.
AS YOU SAW WITH COLLIER COUNTY, $150 MILLION IN TOTAL SAVINGS.
THEY HAVE REAPED THE BENEFIT OF THE FIRST 50 MILLION WITH 80 MILLION ON THE TABLE.
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WOULD BE SIMILAR TO HOW YOU WOULD PROGRESS.WE WORK OUR WAY THROUGH THE INSIGHTS TO ACHIEVE THE BALANCED BUDGET.
UM, SO, AND LOOK, SO CITY MANAGER, I DO WANT TO, UH, SUPPORT YOU IN THIS BECAUSE YOU'VE WORKED IN THIS, AND SO I WANT TO GIVE YOU THE TOOLS, BUT JUST, JUST FOR ME AND MY COMFORT LEVEL, I'M NOT COMFORTABLE MOVING THIS FORWARD TONIGHT.
I WOULD LIKE, UH, MORE INFORMATION, UM, LIKE, SO JUST OVERALL, UM, I THINK THE POSITIVES OF, OF THIS, UM, AND I SAY THIS TO MY COLLEAGUES AS WELL, SO THE POSITIVES, I LIKE THAT THIS IS AN INDEPENDENT OUTSIDE LOOK AT OUR, UM, ORGANIZATION AND LOOKING AT IT FROM A PROGRAM BASE, I WOULD LIKE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WOULD BE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PROGRAMS AND, AND PROJECTS.
I REALLY LIKE THE COLLABORATION WITH OUR STAFF.
SO COMING TO MEET WITH OUR DIRECTORS, I WOULD HOPE THAT THAT INCLUDES NOT JUST DIRECTORS, BUT EMPLOYEES TOO.
I THINK OFTEN, TOO OFTEN A LOT OF OUR EMPLOYEES HAVE SOME GOOD IDEAS, LIKE AT THE BOTTOM.
UM, AND, UH, THAT DOESN'T ALWAYS TRICKLE EITHER TO US AT THE TOP OR TO, UM, OUR CONSULTANT TEAM.
SO I THINK THAT WOULD, UM, BE IMPORTANT.
UM, UH, SO I, BUT I DID LIKE THAT, UM, THAT COLLABORATION WITH OUR, UH, UH, DIRECTORS THAT YOU OFFERED, UM, THE POTENTIAL FOR EFFICIENCIES, IDEAS, KIND OF THE, UH, WHERE MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS CAN BE CON UM, KIND OF WORKING ON, UH, THIS, THAT ARE, UH, JUST CAN MAKE SAVINGS, INEFFICIENCIES.
I REALLY LIKED THE DATABASE OF OTHER CITIES THAT YOU ALL HAVE.
BUT, UM, JUST THE, THE NEGATIVES AT THIS POINT, WHAT'S KIND OF, WHAT'S HOLDING ME BACK? UM, IT'S THE COST.
THE, THE QUARTER OF A MILLION IS JUST A HIGH COST, SO I JUST DON'T WANNA GET LOCKED IN FOR THAT LONG, FOR, IT'S 250,000 FOR THREE YEARS, UM, TOTAL FOR THREE YEARS.
SO, SO A QUARTER OF A MILLION FOR THREE YEARS, UH, 250 MILLION DIVIDED BY THREE WOULD BE YOUR ANNUAL 250, 200 50,000 FOR THREE YEARS.
OVER, UM, IN TOTAL FOR THREE YEARS, 250,000 DIVIDED BY THREE WOULD BE YOUR ANNUAL COST OVER $80,000 A YEAR.
SO, UM, BUT I THOUGHT EVEN I UNDERSTOOD, I THOUGHT THAT WAS FIVE YEARS, NOT THREE, BUT MAYBE 'CAUSE I MISREAD THAT.
SO, SO IT'S JUST, UM, I'M JUST A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT LOCKING IN, UH, FOR THAT LONG, AT LEAST WITH THE INFORMATION I HAVE.
WE, UM, WHEN WE HAD A STAFF REPORT, IT WAS ONLY ONE PAGE AND, UM, WE DIDN'T, I'M NOT SEEING, DIDN'T SEE, LIKE YOU MENTIONED, TERMS AND CONDITIONS.
WE DON'T HAVE THOSE TERMS AND CONDITIONS LIKE BEFORE US.
WE DON'T HAVE THE, THE CONTRACT AMENDMENT LANGUAGE, UH, BEFORE US.
SO I, SO THERE'S THAT, THAT, THAT HOLDS ME BACK WHERE I WOULD LIKE TO FLUSH THIS OUT MORE.
UM, I, I DID FEEL THE, UM, PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PART IS LACKING.
AND YOU HEARD ME ASK, ASK THAT BECAUSE I, UM, IN ORDER TO DETERMINE WHAT OUR PRIORITIES ARE, I THINK THERE HAS TO BE DIRECT COMMUNICATION WITH THE PUBLIC AND NOT JUST NOT ASKING US WHAT WE THINK THE PUBLIC, BUT THAT HAS TO, I, I THINK SHOULD COME FROM, FROM YOU ALL.
'CAUSE OTHERWISE THEN WE COULD JUST DO OUR OWN PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND OUTREACH TO DETERMINE THAT.
RIGHT? SO, AND THEN THAT IF WE'RE DOING THAT, THEN I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE WOULD NEED YOU OR THE TECHNOLOGY FOR.
SO I THOUGHT THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PART IN ORDER TO DETERMINE WHAT THE PRIORITIES OR WHAT THE LEVEL OF, UM, SUPPORT OUR COMMUNITY MIGHT HAVE FOR SERVICES OR, OR THE, UM, OR, UM, WHAT, WHAT'S WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING.
SO I JUST FELT LIKE THAT THAT WAS, UH, LACKING AND, AND, UM, UH, AND, AND THEN JUST, AND SOME OF THE CHALLENGES WE'VE ALREADY HAD WITH MUNIS, WITH THE, WITH THE IMPLEMENT IMPLEMENTATION PART, LIKE HOW MUCH OF THAT IS TECHNOLOGY VERSUS HOW MUCH OF THAT WAS JUST, UM, JUST STAFF DIRECTOR CHALLENGES OR THEY DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH TRAINING.
SO I, I JUST, UM, I'M NOT AGAINST THIS TECHNOLOGY.
LIKE I WANT TO GIVE OUR CITY MANAGER THE, THE TOOLS WE NEED, BUT I ALSO THINK OF SOME OF THIS INFO.
I THINK SOMETIMES WE HAVE THIS OVER-RELIANCE ON TECHNOLOGY AND WE JUST WANT THE TECHNOLOGY TO JUST KIND OF SAVE US.
AND I SEE THINGS IN THIS ORGANIZATION THAT ARE JUST VERY BASIC THAT, I MEAN, IF WE WANT TO FIND EFFICIENCIES, WE CAN ALSO LOOK AT TIME SHEETS, LIKE WHAT OUR STAFF IS DOING AND WHO IS ASSIGNED TO WHAT, AND IS THIS THE, IS THIS THE RIGHT, UM, THING.
AND THAT WOULD BE DONE THROUGH OUR CITY MANAGER, BUT, UM, IT'S, BUT, BUT I THINK, I THINK THERE'S JUST SOME EFFICIEN BASIC EFFICIENCIES THAT WE DON'T NEED TECHNOLOGY FOR THAT I'D LIKE US TO PURSUE BEFORE THIS, UH, TECHNOLOGY.
SO, UM, SO TH THOSE ARE JUST SOME OF MY THOUGHTS.
I'M OPEN TO HEARING, UH, MY COLLEAGUES.
I'M UNCOMFORTABLE MOVING THIS FORWARD AT, AT THIS POINT, BUT I DO WANT TO GET THERE.
SO, UM, IF IT'S MORE OF A, UM, A SHORTER TERM, UH, A PILOT OR THIS IS, I, I MEAN, I THINK THIS SHOULD BE BROUGHT BACK, BUT I'M OPEN TO BEING CONVINCED OF THIS.
UM, BUT I JUST THINK THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH INFORMATION TO CONVINCE ME, ESPECIALLY GIVEN OUR BUDGET DEFICIT.
LIKE, I, I NEED TO BE SURE THAT IF WE'RE GONNA INVEST IN THIS, THAT WE'RE GONNA GET A RETURN ON
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THE INVESTMENT.ASPEN, I, I, IF I'M HEARING RIGHT, I THINK A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT MY COLLEAGUE IS ASKING FOR ARE THINGS THAT THE PROCESS WILL, WILL BRING OUT.
YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T GET THOSE ANSWERS UNTIL, UNTIL THEY START PROCESSING THAT STUFF.
AND SO IT'S KIND OF, YOU KNOW, IT'S CHICKEN AND THE EGG TYPE OF THING.
WHICH, WHICH WAY DO YOU GO WITH THAT? UM, THE, UH, YOU KNOW, AND AS I SAY, THIS IS GOING TO, IT IS NOT AN OVERNIGHT THING, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE START EVEN ONCE, ONCE EVERYTHING IS SIGNED, IF EVERYTHING WAS A CONTRACT, WAS SIGNED, EVERYTHING, IT DOESN'T BOOM, OKAY, THE NEXT DAY HERE IT IS, IT DOES, DOESN'T QUITE WORK THAT WAY.
IT'S NOT GONNA BE LIKE THE OLD FORM WHERE WITH A CON WITH A, UH, CONTRACTOR, UH, CONSULTANT, IT WOULD BE NINE, 12 MONTHS.
AND IN YOUR OLD, THE OLD WAY TO DO IT, YOU SAID WAS LIKE SIX MONTHS.
NOW IT'S, NOW IT'S DOWN TO MORE IN THE NUMBER OF WEEKS INSTEAD OF, BUT STILL IN THE MEANTIME, I THINK A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT MY COLLEAGUE WAS SAYING AS FAR AS THE PRACTICAL, THOSE PRACTICAL THINGS THAT, UH, THAT ARE, THAT ARE JUST OPERATIONAL, THAT ARE NOT, NOT LOOKING AT AT ALL THE OTHER EFFICIENCIES, THOSE CAN, THOSE CAN BE IMPLEMENTED ANYWAY.
AND SO THAT, THAT CAN STILL BE DONE.
UM, MY ONLY CONCERN IS IF WE ARE GONNA BE LOOKING AT DOING SOMETHING, WE ARE EITHER GONNA DO IT WITH OUR OWN NOGGINS AND PUTTING OUR HEADS TOGETHER AND JUST DOING IT OURSELF AND WITHOUT NECESSARILY THE EXPERIENCE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
OR IN THIS CASE, UH, RELYING UPON THE CITY MANAGER AND THE EXPERIENCE THAT HE HAS HAD AND IN TRYING TO GET US THERE.
SO I, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T, I, IF WE'RE GONNA MOVE AHEAD WITH ANYTHING, I DON'T WANNA WAIT VERY LONG AT ALL.
AND, UH, SO REMEMBER YOUR MONEY.
UM, I, I UNDERSTAND THAT WE ALL HAVE QUESTIONS, UM, AS THE, UH, YOU KNOW, MEMBERS OF THE POLICY MAKERS HERE, UM, THERE IS, I UNDERSTAND I TOO WOULD LIKE, UM, TO PROVIDE OUR CITY MANAGER A TOOL THAT HE ALREADY HAD USED, AND IT HAS BEEN, OR IT WAS SUCCESSFUL FOR THAT, BUT BECAUSE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT ARE, UM, THAT ARE, UH, BEING RAISED, UM, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO, UM, GET ALL THOSE, UM, ANSWERS.
THE ELEMENT OF HOW ARE WE GONNA DO THIS? HOW ARE WE GONNA DO THAT? I THINK I LISTENED TO WHAT MR. FABIAN EARLIER SAID THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE A STRATEGIC PLAN.
SO THEN YOU'LL KNOW, RIGHT, WHAT ITEMS OR WHAT ELEMENTS WILL BE, WILL BE PUT IN THAT MODE MODULE.
SO, UM, THERE ARE SOME QUESTIONS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THE QUESTIONS FROM MY COLLEAGUES HERE, YES, WE DON'T NEED TO WAIT, BUT I'M SURE THAT HAVING, UM, AN AN, UH, UM, UH, AN IMMEDIATE, UM, OR, OR URGENCY TO, TO LOOKING INTO ALL THESE QUESTIONS, SO THEN THEY WILL BE ANSWERED.
I, I WOULD, UM, I WOULD, UH, RECOMMEND AN AD HOC, UM, MR. MAYOR TO WORK WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND WORK WITH ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND LISTEN TO ALL THESE QUESTIONS SO WE CAN FLUSH IT ALL OUT.
AND THEN, UM, WE GET AN INTELLIGENT, UM, UH, UH, UH, UH, A MORE INFORMED, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, UM, QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS TO THIS, UM, NEW SYSTEM THAT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, OUR CITY MANAGERS PROPOSING, I THINK, I THINK PROBLEM AS I'VE SEE IT IS ONE THING.
WE BASICALLY JUST HAD A ONE PAGER.
AND THAT I THINK IS WHAT IS CAUSING I THINK, A LOT OF THE CONCERN.
SO THERE'S NOT A LOT OF ANSWERS.
UH, AND NOW WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT FULLY UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE PROGRAM IS, UH, SIMPLY BECAUSE I'M SORRY, IF WE UNDERSTOOD IT, WE'D BE UP THERE PRESENTING IT INSTEAD OF YOU ARE.
UM, IT'S, ONCE AGAIN, IT'S A CHICKEN AND EGG.
WE KIND OF WANNA KNOW, WE WANNA BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND THE PROGRAM AND HOW IT'S GONNA WORK, BUT WE, BUT YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO DO THAT TILL IT'S IMPLEMENTED.
UM, SO YEAH, I, I KIND OF WANNA LEAN AWAY FROM AN AD HOC, 'CAUSE I SAY I CAN SEE THAT JUST DRAGGING US OUT AND, UH, I REALLY, UH, I'D RATHER SEE US, IF ANYTHING, COME BACK EVEN AT THE NEXT MEETING WITH LIKE THE, THE TERM SHEETS AND THAT TYPE OF STUFF AND THE CONTRACT, SO YOU, WE COULD SEE WHAT IT IS.
AND, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE REALLY, I THINK THERE WAS, THERE WAS A LACK OF UNDERSTANDING HOW MUCH IT WAS EVEN GONNA COST AND, YOU KNOW, THE 250,000 BEEN THROWN OUT.
BUT NOW REALIZING THAT'S A THREE YEAR CONTRACT AND ABOUT 80, $83,000 A YEAR TYPE DEAL FOR, UH, FOR A SOFT, THE SOFTWARE PROGRAM AND THE TRAINING AND EVERYTHING ELSE, UH, IT'S JUST EASIER TO HAVE A WHITE PAPER WITH REGARDS TO ALL THE QUESTIONS.
SO THEN WE CAN HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS.
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UM, I THINK IT'LL EXPEDITE THE DECISION MAKING FROM, FROM THE FIVE OF US HERE.UM, GETTING ALL THOSE INFORMATION FROM OUR CITY MANAGER WITH THE HELP OF THE DIRECTORS, UM, YOU KNOW, AND FROM ALSO THE CONSULTANTS.
SO I, I'M JUST TRYING TO EXPEDITE THE PROCESS, MAYOR.
WE, WE CAN CERTAINLY BRING BACK THE ACTUAL AMEND AMENDMENT FOR THE CONTRACT, UM, AS FAR AS PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT TO IDENTIFY PRIORITIES, I WANNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT BECAUSE YOU ALREADY HAVE A FIVE YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN THAT IDENTIFIES YOUR PRIORITIES.
WE ARE GOING, WE ARE, WE'RE ALREADY WORKING ON SETTING UP A GOAL SETTING SESSION FOR THE COUNCIL, MOST LIKELY TO OCCUR IN JANUARY.
THAT WILL BE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO IDENTIFY PRIORITIES.
UM, IF WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESS, WE'RE LOOKING AT SIX MONTHS BEFORE WE COMPLETE THAT PROCESS.
SORRY, UH, UH, WHAT, WHAT WAS YOUR ASSERTION THERE OR ASSUMPTION? UH, SIX MONTHS FOR WHAT EXACTLY? FOR, FOR A PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PROCESS TO IDENTIFY PRIORITIES? UM, I DON'T THINK SO.
I, IF, I MEAN, AT LEAST WHAT I'M LOOKING AT, IT COULD BE A SURVEY THAT GOES OUT.
SO, I MEAN, WE WERE ABLE TO DO A POLL FOR THE BUSINESS LICENSE TAX WITHIN A FEW WEEKS.
SO I DON'T, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD COST OR TAKE SIX MONTHS, ABOUT SIX MONTHS FOR AT LEAST, LIKE, AT LEAST WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IF, UM, FROM, FROM MY STANDPOINT FOR A, UM, FOR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, I'M, I'M NOT LOOKING FOR A SEPARATE, LENGTHY, SIX MONTHS, UH, CITY MANAGER.
JUST TO, JUST TO BE CLEAR ON THAT.
I DON'T WANT SOMETHING LENGTHY LIKE THAT, BUT I THINK JUST OUR STRATEGIC PLAN ALONE, UM, BECAUSE THAT CAME FROM US AND YES, WE GOT SOME INPUT ON THAT, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT IT GETS, I DON'T THINK IT'S SPECIFIC ENOUGH FOR WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR ON, ON THESE TOOLS.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, UH, IF IT'S STREET SWEEPING, WE'VE, WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THAT.
I, I'M JUST LOOKING FOR SOMETHING, IF WE CAN GET A, A SURVEY OUT TO, TO RESIDENTS, MAYBE WE CAN GET IT, UM, TO EMPLOYEES.
LIKE HOW EFFECTIVE IS OUR, OUR STREET SWEEPING ARE, ARE THERE GAPS? SO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I THINK, UM, A SURVEY WOULD TAKE A COUPLE WEEKS AND THAT, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING AS A TOOL THAT I THINK WE, WE COULD DO.
I'M NOT LOOKING FOR SOMETHING THAT WOULD TAKE SEVERAL MONTHS.
I COULD CERTAINLY GO THROUGH TIME SHEETS, 500 SOME EVERY WEEK, EVERY TWO, TWO WEEKS.
WE'D WANT TO ANALYZE AT LEAST A YEAR'S WORTH OF DATA BECAUSE THE WORK THAT PEOPLE DO ISN'T THE SAME EVERY DAY.
IS THAT REALISTIC? NOT, NOT WITH MY TIME.
I, I DON'T HAVE TIME TO DO THAT.
I, I DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE IN THIS ORGANIZATION THAT HAS, HAS TIME TO ANALYZE TIME SHEETS AND WRITE DOWN WHAT EVERY EMPLOYEE DOES EVERY HOUR OF THEIR DAY OR BLOCK OF BLOCK OF TIME.
IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE THAT DATA
I'D LOVE TO SEE IT, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S JUST NOT TIMELY.
AND SO, AND ON THAT, SO I'M NOT ASKING FOR YOU, DOUG, TO REVIEW 500 TIME SHEETS.
I WOULDN'T EXPECT THAT OR SUGGEST THAT.
WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST OR EXPECT IS YOU TO DELEGATE THAT.
SO MAYBE IT'S YOU REVIEWING THREE TO SEVEN TIME SHEETS OF YOUR DIRECTORS, YOUR DIRECTORS REVIEWING THREE TO FIVE TIME SHEETS OF THEIR MANAGERS, THEIR MANAGERS REVIEWING THREE TO FIVE TIME SHEETS OF THEIR, SO IT KIND OF GOES, YOU KNOW, IT, UM, TRICKLES DOWN IF YOU WILL, BUT IT'S SO NOT THE, AND MAYBE THERE'S SOME INDEPENDENT ANALYSIS THAT, UM, THIS TECHNOLOGY COULD DO ON TIME SHEETS, AS, DO YOU GUYS HAVE THAT CAPABILITY ON TIME SHEET REVIEW? YEAH, I MEAN, ULTIMATELY, UM, YES, THE ANSWER IS YES.
SO THE, THE CRUX OF HOW DO YOU COME UP WITH A PROGRAM COST COMES DOWN TO PERSONNEL ALLOCATION, TO PROGRAMS SPECIFIC TO NATIONAL CITY.
SO TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU HAVE THAT DATA, WE 100% WANT THAT DATA.
CAN, CAN YOU PUT TOGETHER A SIMPLE, I'M GONNA CALL IT WHITE PAPER, UH, AND BRING BACK AT OUR NEXT MEETING THAT KIND OF LAYS OUT WHAT THE PROGRAM IS.
THAT'S THE PROBLEM IS, I MEAN, WE'VE GIVEN THIS, THIS ONE PAGER THAT REALLY DIDN'T GIVE A WHOLE LOT OF INFORMATION MM-HMM
AND GIVE IT WHAT THE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THIS PROGRAM WOULD DO AND WHAT IT WON'T DO.
UH, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M SORRY, THIS IS NOT A FIX ALL OR ANYTHING ELSE.
IT'S NOT GONNA GET INTO THE, THE, THE VERY MINUTIA OF EVERYTHING, UH, BUT IT KIND OF GIVES US THAT GRAND SCHEME AND, AND YOU CAN, UH, EX EXPLAIN THAT AT THE SAME
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TIME.SHOW US WHAT, WHAT THE TERMS OF A CONTRACT WOULD LOOK LIKE, WHAT THE COST, EVERYTHING ELSE, AND EVALUATE.
AND I, I KNOW IT'S SHORT TURNAROUND, BUT IF WE COULD BRING THAT BACK, BECAUSE I, I JUST DON'T WANNA DRAG THIS OUT IF WE'RE GONNA, IF WE'RE GONNA DECIDE TO GO WITH THIS, WE NEED TO DO IT.
AND IF WE'RE NOT, THEN WE NEED TO SAY, WE GOTTA, WE GOTTA DO SOMETHING ELSE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M TRUSTING A LOT IN YOUR JUDGMENT ON THIS BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU'VE BEEN THROUGH WITH IT ON IT ALREADY.
UM, AND SO, BUT IF YOU COULD BRING SOMETHING BACK AT OUR NEXT MEETING SO THAT WE COULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING TO ACTUALLY LOOK THROUGH AND EVERYTHING ELSE AND, AND, AND TO ANSWER SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS, UH, BECAUSE I, I THINK A, I I THINK I HEAR A LOT OF MISUNDERSTANDING.
I MEAN, WE WERE ALL, WE WERE ALL MIXING IN EUNICE WITH IT AND EVERYTHING ELSE, WHICH THERE REALLY ISN'T A CORRELATION THERE.
UM, AND IS, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU THINK YOU, YOU COULD, UH, YOU COULD PUT TOGETHER? YEAH, WE CAN DO THAT.
I, I ACTUALLY REALLY, UM, APPRECIATE AND UNDERSTAND MY COLLEAGUES', UM, HESITATION AND I'VE HAD THEM AS WELL, AND I'VE EXPRESSED THEM PRIVATELY WITH OUR CITY MANAGER AND HAVE A SERIES OF MEETINGS REGARDING IT.
UM, I DO BELIEVE IN COMMUNITY INPUT.
I ALSO THINK THAT WE ARE IN A CRITICAL TIME IN OUR CITY, AND WITH THE ABSENCE OF AN INITIATIVE FOR THIS ELECTION CYCLE, I THINK WE DON'T HAVE THE LUXURY OF SIX MONTHS TO WAIT BEFORE WE MAKE THESE CHANGES IMMEDIATELY.
AND SO, ALTHOUGH I HAVE MY OWN RESERVATIONS AND CONTINUED, UH, CAUTION WHEN IT COMES TO UTILIZING THIS, UM, UH, AI AND AND PROGRAM, I ALSO REALIZE THAT WE NEED TO ACT AND WE NEED TO ACT QUICKLY.
AND SO, UM, WHICH IS WHY I DO BELIEVE IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD, UM, WITH IT.
NOW, UH, I I LIKE THE IDEA OF A COMPROMISE BETWEEN TWO AND THREE YEAR, UM, CONTRACT INSTEAD OF A FIVE YEAR CONTRACT.
I UNDERSTAND THE HESITATION OF YOUR ORGANIZATION, BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO LOOK OUT FOR THE INTEREST OF THE CITY, UM, IN ORDER TO MAKE SOME CHANGES IMMEDIATELY BECAUSE, UH, BASED ON OUR BUDGET PROJECTIONS, DOING NOTHING IS NOT AN OPTION.
AND GOING THROUGH 10 TO $12 MILLION OF OUR RESERVE LEVELS YEAR TO YEAR IS NOT AN OPTION.
AND TRANSLATING THAT TO SIX MONTHS IS $6 MILLION, RIGHT? FIVE TO 6 MILLION.
SO I THINK, UM, I THINK WE NEED TO ACT, AND I AM, I AM IN FAVOR OF MOVING THIS FORWARD, UH, AT THIS TIME, REALIZING THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF CONCERNS AND IF, IF, UM, IF IT HELPS SOME, UH, SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES, UH, TO HAVE A SUBCOMMITTEE THAT WOULD BE CREATED, I, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA FOR ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO SERVE AD HOC, AD HOC COMMITTEE, SORRY, AN AD HOC COMMITTEE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SERVE TO OVERSEE SOME OF THIS, I THINK.
UM, SO JUST ALL THOSE COMMENTS,
FOR THE, FOR THE NO HONOR, WELL, FOR THE LACK OF ANYTHING ELSE, I'M, I'LL MAKE A MOTION, WE'LL SEE AS YOU GUYS GO WITH THIS.
AND THAT IS TO IN INSTRUCT OUR, THE CITY MANAGER TO PUT TOGETHER A WHITE PAPER AND BRING BACK MORE INFORMATION ON THE PROGRAM ITSELF AND THEN ALSO, UH, THE TERM SHEETS AND WHAT A CONTRACT WOULD LOOK LIKE AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
IF YOU COULD BRING THAT BACK TO THE NEXT MEETING.
WHAT IS A WHITE PAPER WHEN YOU, YOU GUYS KEEP SAYING THAT.
WHAT, WHAT WHITE PAPER WOULD BASIC WOULD BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, NORMALLY I'M KNOCKING ALL STUFF OFF HERE.
UM, WE GOT A, WE GOT THIS LITTLE ONE PAGE, ONE PAGER HERE THAT REALLY NEEDS TO HAVE MORE DEPTH.
SO IT WOULD KIND OF EXPLAIN A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE'VE BEEN ASKING HERE AND GIVE SOME ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS THAT WE'VE BEEN ASKING, UH, YOU KNOW, CONCERNING, YOU KNOW, AS SAY, WHAT, WHAT ARE THE FINANCIAL COMMITMENTS? WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD, WHAT WOULD BE PROVIDED, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, TERM, UH, THE TERMS, ALL THESE DIFFERENT KINDS OF THINGS.
YOU KNOW, WHAT TO EXPECT OUTTA THIS PROGRAM, WHAT NOT TO EXPECT OUT OF IT.
IT'S A SUMMARY, HUH? YEAH, SUMMARY.
IT'S GONNA BE A SUMMARY, BUT NOT, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS REALLY KIND OF A LIGHT, YOU KNOW, THIS ONE PAGE YOU REALLY DIDN'T, DIDN'T GIVE US A WHOLE LOT TO WORK ON.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S GOT EVERYONE A LITTLE BIT UNCOMFORTABLE HERE, RIGHT? OKAY.
I JUST, BECAUSE THE WHITE PAPER SOUNDS LIKE THIS 10 PAGE, 10 10 PLUS PAGE ANALYSIS, SO I'M NOT LOOKING FOR, FOR THAT IF IT'S SUMMARY ON SOME OF THE DETAILS ON WHAT WE EXPECT FROM THE CLASS.
I'M, I'M, I'M, I'M, I'M FINE WITH THAT.
SO, UM, IF YOU, CAN YOU REPEAT THE MOTION? IT WAS BASICALLY TO INSTRUCT THE CITY MANAGER TO BRING BACK AT OUR NEXT MEETING.
UM, YOU WANNA WAIT, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? A WHITE PAPER OR AN EXPANDED REPORT, WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT, UH, THAT WOULD DESCRIBE THE, UH, THE PROGRAM.
IT WOULD ALSO DESCRIBE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS WOULD BE, WHAT THE LIMITATIONS WOULD BE OF THE PROGRAM, WHAT THE COST, THE, THE EXPECTED OR THE POTENTIAL RANGE OF ANTICIPATED AND ALL THE, YEAH, ALL THE COST
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EXPECTATIONS AND WHAT WE WOULD, UH, WHAT YOU, WHAT WOULD BE THE BENEFITS COMING OUT OF THAT.AND, UH, UM, AND AS SAY, THEN ALSO WHAT A TERM, WHAT THE TERMS AND WHAT A CONTRACT WOULD LOOK LIKE.
AND TO THAT, UH, UH, IF WE DO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT IN MOTION, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO INQUIRE, YOU KNOW, THE OUTPUT FROM STAFF.
WHAT, WHAT IS THE EXPECTATION FROM STAFF ABOUT MANAGING THE PROGRAM OR BUILDING IT UP? AND THEN, YOU KNOW, UH, HOW DOES THAT WORK AND WHAT IS THE, THE BURDEN ON STAFF FOR THAT? I'M ACCEPTED TO THAT.
SO WOULD THERE BE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION OR NOT? I'LL SECOND.
SO CURRENTLY WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, AND THIS IS ASKED, THIS CITY MANAGER I KNOW IS A QUICK TURNAROUND, BUT I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT AND I THINK YOU, YOU THINK IT'S IMPORTANT AND UH, UM, TO BRING THIS BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING BASICALLY WITH MORE INFORMATION IS WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR MORE INFORMATION AND MORE COMPLETE INFORMATION AND, UH, SO THAT WE CAN MAKE AN INTELLIGENT DECISION ON IT, NOT AN ARTIFICIAL ONE.
SO THAT'D BE IN FIRST MEETING IN SEPTEMBER? YEAH, THAT'S SENIOR MANAGER.
I, I I CAN TELL HE'S DETERMINED.
THE ELECTRONICS ARE ALL MESSED UP HERE.
THAT MOTION WENT IN AS RIOS SECONDED BY MORRISON, SO, OKAY.
SEE, NO MORE DISCUSSION, PLEASE VOTE.
ALRIGHT, SO, AND, UH, I AGREE THAT I, IT'S A BIG DECISION.
I JUST WANT US TO RUSH INTO IT AND FEELING WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH, ENOUGH INFORMATION.
SO I THINK THAT WILL HELP US WITH THAT.
UH, ANY CITY MANAGER'S REPORT.
NONE, RIGHT? MAYOR, WE DO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON ZOOM.
ON WHICH ZOOM? UH, FOR, FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENT THAT WAS CARRIED OVER.
OH, OH, SHE WAS, SHE WASN'T ON EARLIER.
OKAY, MAYOR, THAT CONCLUDES OUR PUBLIC COMMENT.
OKAY, LET'S PUT A WRAP ON THAT ONE.
AND, UH, LET'S, UH, WITH THAT, UH, OKAY.
CITY MANAGERS THAT HAD NO REPORT, SO WE'LL GO WITH
[12.ELECTED OFFICIALS REPORT]
THE ELECTED OFFICIALS REPORT.UH, NEXT THURSDAY, AUGUST 22ND, WE WILL HAVE OUR DISTRICT TWO TOWN HALL, IT'S OUR QUARTERLY TOWN HALL.
IT'LL BE OVER AT THE SENIOR CENTER.
UM, A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION.
UH, THANK YOU FOR VOLUNTEERING, DOUG TO ATTEND
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST FOR A BRIEFING FROM SEC FROM OUR CITY MANAGER ABOUT THIS ANNEXATION THAT WILL CAME FORWARD TODAY.
UM, AND THEN I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO, IT'S ON THE WATCH TEAM FOR TODAY.
THIS QUESTION FROM MS. SANCHEZ.
I WOULD LIKE TO BONITA VALLEY ROAD.
SO, UM, AND THEN ALSO ANNOUNCEMENT FOR THE JUNIOR TENNIS, UM, CLINIC AT EL TOON.
AND THEN ON SATURDAY WE HAVE OUR, UM, BEGINNER'S PICKLEBALL CLINIC.
ALRIGHT, AND DOWN HERE, NOTHING TO REPORT.
UM, ONLY THING I I CAN THINK OF IS A COUPLE THINGS IS THAT, UH, THIS, WHAT IS IT? THIS, UH, SUNDAY WE HAVE THE INAUGURAL NATIONAL CITY CARS AND CULTURAL FESTIVAL IN KIMBALL PARK.
AND THEN ON A WEEK FROM THIS FRIDAY, WE WILL HAVE OUR FIRST FOR THE SUMMER OF OUR, UH, UH, NATIONAL CITY MOVIES AT THE PARK.
SO THAT ONE WILL BE COMING UP, UH, OTHER THAN THAT FOOTBALL SEASON, STARTING WITH, WITH, UH, THE RED DEVILS STARTS THIS WEEK.
OH, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, BECAUSE THE COUNCIL MADE A DECISION TO CONTINUE CLOSED SESSION, WE WOULD NEED TO RECESS BACK INTO CLOSED SESSION.
NOW IF WE'RE GONNA DO SO, FINISH CLOSED SESSION AND THEN COME BACK TO DO THE REPORT OUT.
SO, UH, BECAUSE OF THE HOUR, WE'RE GONNA NIX GOING, GOING BACK INTO CLOSED
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SESSION.SO WE, WE NEED TO OPEN UP CLOSE, UH, CLOSED SESSION SO THAT WE CAN ADJOURN CLOSED SESSION BECAUSE ADJOURN CLOSED SESSION, MOVING ON DISCUSSION TO A FURTHER DATE OR, WELL THAT'S AT THIS POINT IN TIME IF THE COUNCIL MAKES THE MOTION, YOU MOVE TO CONTINUE IT UNTIL AFTER THIS MEETING.
SO YES, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, IF THE COUNCIL DOESN'T WANT TO HEAR IT TONIGHT, THEN IT WOULD BE CONTINUED TO ANOTHER DATE AND THAT'S UP TO YOU ALL TO MAKE A DECISION ON.
SO IF YOU WANT IT HEARD ON ANOTHER DATE, THEN I'M GONNA CONTINUE OVER.
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DO YOU WANT ME TO DO MY REPORT NEXT? NOW YOU NEED TO REPORT OUT.UM, AS IT RELATES TO ITEMS, UM, UNDER CLOSED SESSION 5.4, 5.1, 5.2, UM, 5.3, UH, AS IT RELATES TO 5.4 THERE WAS NOTHING TO REPORT.
ON 5.4 WE CAN REPORT OUT THAT THE COUNCIL VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO HAVE, UM, NEGOTIATIONS START TO ENTER INTO A NEGOTIATIONS.
UM, AN AGREEMENT, UM, 5.5 IS BEING CONTINUED TO, UH, A FUTURE DATE AS BY THIS MOTION AND IS NOT BEING HEARD, UH, WAS NOT HEARD IN CLOSED SESSION AND WILL NOT BE HEARD UNTIL LATER TIME.
UH, THE CLO AS FOR THE FIRST PART OF OUR CLOSED SESSION, UM, LET ME JUST GRAB MY NOTES SO I MAKE SURE I'M DOING THE RIGHT THING ON MY NOTES TIME-WISE.
OKAY, THE FULL COUNSEL WITH ALL MEMBERS PRESENT WENT INTO, UH, CLOSED SESSION AT 4 24 AND HEARD ITEMS 5.1 THROUGH 5.4 UNTIL 5:53 PM AT WHICH TIME WE RECESSED OUT TO COME HERE.
UM, AND AT THAT TIME, THE ONLY REPORTABLE ACTION BY THE BOARD RELATED TO 5.4, WHICH I JUST DESCRIBED.
ALRIGHT, SO WITH THAT, THAT TAKES CARE OF OUR BUSINESS FOR THIS EVENING AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.