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WE GET STARTED, WE HAVE A, UH, AN AB 24 49 REQUEST TO ATTEND VIRTUALLY BY A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER.WE HAVE RECEIVED A REQUEST FROM COUNCIL MEMBER YAMANI TO OF A NEED TO RE, UH, PARTICIPATE REMOTELY.
FOLLOWING THE REQUIREMENTS OF AB 24 49, WE MUST FIRST CONFIRM THAT THERE IS A QUORUM PRESENT IN THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBER, AND WE DO HAVE FOUR OUT OF THE FIVE MEMBERS IN THE, IN THE CHAMBER.
UH, COUNCIL MEMBER YAMANI IS PRESENT VIA ZOOM.
LET'S, WE CAN GET HER UP THERE.
COUNCIL MEMBER YAMANI, PLEASE TURN ON YOUR VIDEO.
MAYOR, CAN YOU REPEAT THAT? OH, I'M, WE HAVE HER HERE NOW.
SO CAN YOU CONFIRM THAT YOU CAN BOTH SEE AND HEAR THE DAS? YES, SIR.
UH, COULD YOU PROVIDE A BRIEF DESCRIPTION OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES RELATING TO THE NEED TO APPEAR REMOTELY? YES, MAYOR, I AM PARTICIPATING REMOTELY DUE TO A, UH, OFFICIAL BUSINESS ON OF THE LEGISLATIVE BODY, UH, SWEETWATER AUTHORITY HERE IN SACRAMENTO.
IS THERE ANYONE OVER THE AGE OF 18 PRESENT AT THE REMOTE LOCATION WITH YOU? NO.
UH, CITY CLERK CHAPEL, COULD YOU CONFIRM THE NUMBER OF TIMES THAT CITY, UH, MEMBER YAMANI HAS APPEARED REMOTELY WITHIN THE CALENDAR YEAR? THIS WILL BE THE SECOND TIME.
UM, AT THIS POINT WE WILL, COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE WILL TAKE A ROLL CALL, UH, TO ACCEPT THE VIRTUAL ATTENDANCE DUE TO JUST CAUSE REASON.
AYE, YOU HAVE A VOTE OF FOUR TO, UM, ALLOW COUNCIL MEMBER YAMANI TO ATTEND VIA AB 2, 4, 4 9.
[1. CALL TO ORDER]
THAT, WE'LL NOW BEGIN THE MAY 5TH, 2026 REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING.BEFORE WE PROCEED, I REQUEST THE INTERPRETER TO TAKE A MOMENT TO EXPLAIN THE CITY'S INTERPRETATION SERVICES THAT WILL BE OFFERED FOR THIS EVENING CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
UH, AS A REMINDER, COULD WE PLEASE SILENCE ALL CELL PHONES OR ANY OTHER DEVICES WITHIN THE CHAMBER? AND THIS POINT I'D LIKE TO CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER A LIVE WEBCAST, THE MEETING MAY BE VIEWED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE.
IF YOU'RE WATCHING VIA ZOOM V VIEWING THE SPANISH VERSION OF THE MEETING, INTERPRETER INSTRUCTIONS WILL APPEAR IN THE CHAT BOX AT THE BOTTOM OF YOUR SCREEN.
FOR THOSE WHO PREFER TO SIT IN THE CHAMBER, HEADSETS ARE AVAILABLE TO PROVIDE LIVE SPANISH TRANSLATION, PLEASE SEE THE CITY, CITY CLERK'S DESK TO CHECK OUT A HEADSET.
THE NOTICE AGENDA AND INFORMATION ON THE CITY OF NASHVILLE CITY'S WEBSITE INFORMS MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT THEY MAY SUBMIT A GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT OR A PUBLIC COMMENT ON A SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEM IN A NUMBER OF WAYS.
FIRST OF ALL, IN PERSON BY FILLING OUT ONE OF THESE SALMON COLORED SLIPS ARE AVAILABLE AT THE BACK OF THE BACK OF THE CHAMBER VIA ZOOM BY PRE-REGISTERING ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE, NO LATER THAN TWO HOURS BEFORE THE MEETING OR EMAILING NO LATER THAN FOUR HOURS BEFORE THE MEETING.
ALL WRITTEN COMMENTS RECEIVED ARE DISTRIBUTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL PRIOR TO THE MEETING AND PUBLISHED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE IF RECEIVED BY THE DEADLINE.
WITH THAT, UH, CITY CLERK, CAN WE HAVE THE ROLL CALL, PLEASE? YES, SIR.
IF WE COULD PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
REMAIN STANDING FOR THE INVOCATION RIVER BUSH.
WOULD YOU LEAVE US PLEASE? BRITTANY, BEGIN.
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TO THE FLAG, THE FLAG OF UNITED STATES, STATES OF AMERICA, REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY, LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.WE THANK YOU FOR THE PRIVILEGE OF BEING HERE THIS EVENING.
WE ASK, OH GOD, THAT YOU BLESS THIS MEETING AND THAT THE DECISION MAKERS HERE DO THE BEST THEY CAN AND IN, IN KEEPING WITH WHAT IS BEST FOR NATIONAL CITY.
WE THANK YOU FOR THIS GREAT PRIVILEGE.
WE THANK YOU FOR FREEDOM, AND WE THANK YOU FOR ALL THE GOOD THINGS YOU DO FOR US.
BLESS WHAT IS SAID AND DONE HERE.
WE THANK YOU FOR THIS GREAT PRIVILEGE.
WE ASK ALL OF THIS IN JESUS' NAME.
[5. PUBLIC COMMENT]
PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEMS OR MATTERS THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA.AND, UH, SO WE DO HAVE A NUMBER OF SPEAKERS.
I'LL BE GIVING YOU TWO MINUTES EACH PER SPEAKER, AND I WILL CALL OUT THREE NAMES AT A TIME.
SO I WOULD ASK WHEN YOUR NAME IS CALLED OUT, IF YOU'D PLEASE GO OUT INTO THE AISLE.
THAT WAY IT MAKES IT GO A WHOLE LOT SMOOTHER WHEN IT'S YOUR TURN TO COME FORWARD.
WE WILL, UH, START WITH, UH, GLORIA SALAS TO BE FIND FOLLOWED BY YOLANDA.
UM, MY NAME IS GLORIA S NATIONAL CITY, LOS ENT.
ARE, ARE, ARE, ARE YOU FINISHED? NO, UH, IT'S THE SAME PLACE, BUT THE SAME PROGRAM.
SHE LIVES IN THE, IN THE APARTMENT.
WELL, WE, WE NEED TRANSLATION FOR YOU FIRST, SO WE ASK THE INTERPRETER TO GIVE US, I WAS WONDERING IF YOU CAN DO THE TRANSLATION IN THE END BECAUSE, UH, SHE'S, WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA BE TOO MANY PEOPLE.
SO IT'D BE TOO HARDER ON, ON THE INTERPRETER.
UH, I WOULD SAY I'VE BEEN AN ACTIVIST FOR THE LAST 40 YEARS IN NATIONAL CITY.
IF REPRESENTING, ESPECIALLY OLDER ADULTS WHO LIVE AT THE KIMBALL AND MORGAN TOWERS, WE ARE ALL HERE TODAY, UH, BECAUSE WE ARE INTERESTED IN ASKING THE NATIONAL CITY GOVERNMENT TO COMMIT TO BUILDING A KIOSK FOR THE, UH, THESE TWO SPACES.
A PLACE WHERE WE CAN HAVE DIFFERENT EVENTS LIKE DANCES AND PRESENTATIONS.
AND WE'RE CERTAIN THAT THIS WILL BENEFIT THE RESIDENTS OF BOTH TOWERS.
SUCH A KIOSK WOULD ALLOW US TO HOST DIFFERENT KINDS OF EVENTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
AND AS A VOLUNTEER FOR A PROGRAM AT UCSD, I'VE BECOME AWARE OF THE FACT THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF MENTAL ILLNESSES AMONG THE ELDERLY, LIKE DEMENTIA, UH, DEMENTIA, EXCUSE ME, OSCILLATION ALZHEIMER'S.
AND HAVING A KIOSK WOULD ALLOW US TO LEAVE OUR APARTMENTS AND BE ABLE TO INTERACT WITH OTHERS.
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SUFFER FROM PHYSICAL DEFICIENCIES DUE TO LACK OF ACTIVITY.AND HAVING A KIOSK LIKE THIS WOULD ALLOW PEOPLE TO HAVE A MEETING PLACE TO JUST SAY, HEY, LET'S MEET AT THE KIOSK LIKE WE USUALLY SAY IN MEXICO.
SO IT WOULD BE A GATHERING PLACE.
AND SO FAR WE HAVE COLLECTED 300 SIGNATURES AND THAT IS JUST THE BEGINNING.
SO WE HOPE TO GATHER A LOT MORE SIGNATURES BECAUSE EVERYONE IS VERY EAGER TO HAVE THIS, UH, INSTALLED.
NEXT WE HAVE YOLANDA TO BE FOLLOWED BY RUBY TO BE FOLLOWED BY, I BELIEVE IT'S IDA.
NOW, MAYOR, OUR INTERPRETER DOES NOT INTERPRET TAGAL TAGALOG.
SO, UH, I'M NOT SURE IT'S THE SAME, IT'S THE SAME SPEECH.
IT'S THE SAME SPEECH IN TAGAL.
OKAY, THEN WE GO TO CESAR JAVIER AND PITA JAVIER.
NO TRANSLATOR OR NO INTERPRETER.
I AM PURITA JER, SENIOR WITH EXISTING MEDICAL CONDITION AND VICTIM OF CERAMICS KILN LIKE MY HUSBAND, CESAR JAVIER, 1997 AND 2012 FOR HIM, WHAT YOU ARE SEE IS A GLOBAL, OH, I'M SORRY, IS A GLAZE, POTTERY MUG GLAZE WITH PAINT AND WITH LEAD AND OTHER METAL.
OH, DO YOU NEED THE INTERPRETER,
OH, WHEN HE DID, HE DID A, UM, 2000, 6,000.
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AND HARM, UM, OH, WITH WOOD GAS OR ELECTRIC FUEL.JAVIER SALA, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I BELIEVE THIS IS A RENAISSANCE ON OUR PART BECAUSE WE ARE LEARNING THE ART OF LANGUAGE, THE ART OF, UH, EVERYTHING TO ASPIRE AS A THINKER.
WE MET IN ALL MEETINGS FROM AIR POLLUTION CONTROL DISTRICT, OUR NUMBER ONE OPPONENT, SORRY TO SAY THAT BECAUSE THEY IGNORE, THEY NEGLECT TIME FACTOR.
I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S A CRIME AGAINST SOCIETY.
AND SO I, I AM ADDING IT HERE.
IGNORE NEGLECT ON THE PART OF OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS BECAUSE AT THIS PRESENT TIME, I HOPE MOMMY ANI WILL LISTEN TO ME THIS TIME.
THE AIR YOU BREATH, THE WATER WE DRINK AND THE FOOD WE ATE.
POLICE LAW ENFORCERS, SOLDIERS.
WE STRONGLY SUGGEST THROUGH THE CONDUIT OF CONSULAR BUSH, LET'S CREATE A POLICY, A FORCE TO ENSURE THAT WE CAN FIGHT SQUARELY THE UNSEEN ENEMY ENVIRONMENTAL HAZARD.
I WANT TO SPEAK DIRECTLY TO THE CITY EMPLOYEES TONIGHT.
THE COUNCIL GAVE YOU A RAISE BASED ON MONDAY'S PRESENTATION, BUDGET, PRESENTATION MAY NOT, THEY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO KEEP UP PAYING FOR IT.
WE'RE IN A $26 MILLION BUDGET DEFICIT BETWEEN THE TWO YEARS.
THAT'S AN UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE THAT GOES NEGATIVE AND $2.9 MILLION BY END OF NEXT YEAR.
THAT AFTER THAT, THERE'S NOTHING LEFT.
THERE'S HOW THE CITY OPERATES.
WE'RE GONNA BE, IT'S CRITICAL.
AND I DON'T WANT YOU GUYS TO DOWNPLAY THIS.
THE DEFICIT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW IS GOING TO BE TRIGGERED, WAS TRIGGERED BY THE, THOSE LABOR CONTRACTS BEFORE THEY WERE EVEN SIGNED.
THE COUNCIL KNEW IT AND THEY APPROVED IT.
MY QUEST, MY CONCERN IS NOT WITH THE AMOUNT AND THAT THESE CITIES EMPLOYEES DESERVE THE AMOUNT IS WHERE WERE YOU ASKING WHETHER YOU HAD SUFFICIENT INFORMATION TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS OF WHETHER WE COULD PAY FOR THIS AT THAT TIME? I DON'T KNOW.
I MEAN, WHY DID YOU DO THAT POLITICS? RODRIGUEZ AND BUSH ADMITTED THAT THEY BROUGHT YOU, THEY BROUGHT THE CITY EMPLOYEES UP TO THE MEDIUM WITHOUT A PLAN TO SUSTAIN IT.
THESE RAISES WERE CALLED HISTORIC.
MAYBE THERE'S A REASON FOR THAT.
AND THE, IT WAS A UNANIMOUS VOTE.
IT'S EVERYBODY VOTED ON IT THAT THE COUNCIL UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CITY COULD ACTUALLY AFFORD WHEN THEY APPROVED THESE RAISES.
IF THEY DIDN'T KNOW, UH, IF THEY DIDN'T KNOW THAT'S A FAILURE.
THEY PROMISE YOU SOMETHING THAT THEY KNEW THEY COULDN'T DELIVER.
YOU PUT YOUR TRUST IN PEOPLE WHO MADE PROMISES THEY KNEW THEY COULDN'T KEEP.
WHY RESIDENTS AND EMPLOYEES NEED TO HEAR THIS PLAINLY.
THERE'S ONLY A FEW WAYS OUT OF THE $26 MILLION HOLE, HIGHER TAXES, CUT SERVICES, LAYOFFS, PROBABLY ALL THREE.
THIS AG THIS IS ISN'T SCARCITY THINKING.
THIS IS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU SHOULD BE AWARE OF.
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PUBLIC SPEAKER DIDN'T HAVE ANY OTHERS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, DID WE? OKAY.UH, WITH THAT WE GO INTO, HUH? WE DO ON ZOOM.
GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
UM, MY NAME IS BECKY RAPP AND I'M HERE TO RAISE A PUBLIC HEALTH AND ENFORCEMENT CONCERN THAT IS DIRECTLY AFFECTING NATIONAL CITY NEIGHBORHOODS.
RECENT REPORTING CONFIRMS THAT THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC HEALTH AND THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE, HAS FILED LEGAL ACTION AGAINST A SANTI BASED CRETO MANUFACTURER CALLED CRAVE FOR CONTINUING TO PRODUCE AND DISTRIBUTE CRETO PRODUCTS IN VIOLATION OF STATE LAW.
AND THESE PRODUCTS ARE SHOWING UP HERE IN OUR CITY.
IN MY OWN NEIGHBORHOOD, A SMOKE SHOP HAS A BRIGHT FLASHING NEON SIGN ADVERTISING CRAVE CCRA MARKETING.
A SUBSTANCE THAT STATE PUBLIC HEALTH OFFICIALS HAVE WARNED IS ADDICTIVE, HARMFUL TO THE LIVER AND LINKED TO OVERDOSE DEATHS.
YET IT'S BEING SOLD OPENLY IN RETAIL SHOPS THAT ARE EASILY ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC, INCLUDING YOUNG PEOPLE.
IF A MANUFACTURER IS UNDER STATE ENFORCEMENT FOR ILLEGAL DISTRIBUTION, HOW ARE THOSE PRODUCTS STILL ENDING UP ON OUR LOCAL SHELVES IN STOREFRONTS OPERATING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS? SO I'M ASKING THE CITY COUNCIL TO TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY AND STRENGTH, STRENGTHEN LOCAL ENFORCEMENT AND COORDINATION WITH STATE AGENCIES, INCLUDING INCREASING INSPECTIONS AND ENFORCEMENT OF ILLEGAL PRODUCTS, AND WORKING TO PREVENT MARKETING THAT NORMALIZES THESE DANGEROUS SUBSTANCES IN OUR COMMUNITIES.
YOUTH PROTECTION AND COMMUNITY HEALTH MUST BE A TOP PRIORITY.
I'M SORRY, MY UNMUTE BUTTON SEEMED TO DISAPPEAR.
JUST WANTED TO SHARE SOME INFORMATION WITH THE CITY COUNCIL AND MAYOR MORRISON THIS EVENING.
THIS MORNING AT 6:00 AM THE WHITE HOUSE NATIONAL DRUG CONTROL STRATEGY.
PUT OUT A, UH, 200 PAGE REPORT REGARDING THEIR CONCERNS FOR THE UNITED STATES.
AND THEY MENTIONED BOTH SAN DIEGO AND CALIFORNIA IN THIS REPORT.
AND I THOUGHT I'D SHARE THE COMMENTS.
IN GENERAL, THEY EXPRESS THEIR CONCERN ABOUT THE COMMERCIAL MARKETING OF ADDICTIVE SUBSTANCES BECAUSE OF ITS EFFECT ON YOUTH HEALTH.
AND THEY MENTION NICOTINE, ALCOHOL, MARIJUANA, AND PSYCHEDELICS.
THEY GO ON TO SAY ABOUT SAN DIEGO.
WHILE ALL DRUGS CARRY SOME LEVEL OF RISK, MARIJUANA HAS THE HIGHEST CONVERSION RATE FROM PSYCHOSIS TO SCHIZOPHRENIA AND BIPOLAR DISORDER.
DRUG USE IS ALSO ASSOCIATED WITH SUICIDE.
AND THE NUMBER ONE DRUG FOUND IN TOXICOLOGY REPORTS OF PEOPLE WHO DIED FROM SUICIDE UNDER THE AGE OF 25 IN COLORADO AND IN THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO WITH MARIJUANA MORE THAN ALCOHOL OR ANY OTHER DRUG.
THERE'S ALSO A SPOTLIGHT ON CALIFORNIA FURTHER IN THE REPORT, AND IT GOES ON TO SAVE.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO MAKE CONSUMERS AWARE OF THE HEALTH RISKS ASSOCIATED WITH MARIJUANA USE, WHICH INCLUDES HARM TO HEART HEALTH, COGNITION, AND CANCER.
IN ONE CALIFORNIA STUDY FROM 2005 TO THE PRESENT, CANNABIS ASSOCIATED DIAGNOSIS OF EMERGENCY ROOM VISITS WENT UP 1800% FOR SENIORS OVER 65.
WITH THIS COMMENT, MARIJUANA USE CAN BE ASSOCIATED WITH EXPOSURE TO HEAVY METALS AND PESTICIDES THAT ACCUMULATE.
AND THIS PROCESS IS CALLED BIOACCUMULATION.
FURTHER RESEARCH INDICATES THAT MARIJUANA CAN CONTAIN FUNGAL.
THANK YOU FOR THE CHANCE TO SPEAK TONIGHT.
I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING THAT APPLIES TO BOTH NICOTINE AND MARIJUANA PRODUCTS, WHICH IS THE ENVIRONMENTAL AND HAZARDOUS WASTE IMPACT OF SMOKING AND VAPING.
THESE DEVICES ARE NOT JUST LITTER VAPES ARE HAZARDOUS WASTE.
THEY CONTAIN LITHIUM BATTERIES THAT CAN SPARK FIRES
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IN PARKS AND TRASH SYSTEMS. THEY CONTAIN NICOTINE, THC AND OTHER CHEMICALS THAT CAN LEACH INTO OUR SOIL AND WATERWAYS.AND BECAUSE THEY'RE MADE OF MIXED MATERIALS, PLASTIC, METAL ELECTRONICS, THEY'RE EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO BREAK DOWN OR RECYCLE.
AND THE VOLUME OF THIS WASTE IS CONTINUING TO GROW.
OUR SCHOOLS ARE ON THE FRONT LINES OF THIS PROBLEM EVERY DAY.
ADMINISTRATORS CONFISCATE VAPE DEVICES FROM STUDENTS, SOMETIMES HUNDREDS AT A TIME, AND STORE THEM IN BOXES OFTEN WITHOUT CLEAR GUIDANCE THAT CREATES REAL RISKS.
BUYER HAZARDS, CHEMICAL EXPOSURE AND LIABILITY.
THOSE ARE BEING ASKED TO MANAGE HAZARDOUS WASTE WITHOUT STANDARDIZED PROTOCOLS, WITHOUT PROPER STORAGE SYSTEMS AND WITHOUT CONSISTENT SUPPORT.
THEY'RE STUCK IN A REGULATORY GRAY ZONE.
BUT THIS IS NOT JUST A SCHOOL ISSUE, IT'S A COMMUNITY ISSUE.
SO WHAT CAN WE DO? WE CAN SUPPORT CLEAR CITYWIDE AND REGIONAL PROTOCOLS FOR SAFE DISPOSAL OF VAPE PRODUCTS.
WE CAN EXPLORE PARTNERSHIPS WITH HAZARDOUS WASTE AND RECYCLING PROVIDERS, AND WE CAN ENSURE THAT SCHOOLS HAVE ACCESS TO FIRE SAFE STORAGE.
BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, WE CAN INVEST IN PREVENTION, ESPECIALLY IN UPPER ELEMENTARY AND MIDDLE SCHOOL, FOCUSING ON DECISION MAKING, LONG-TERM CONSEQUENCES AND PEER-TO-PEER EDUCATION.
WE HAVE A CHANCE TO ACT EARLY HERE, NOT JUST TO PROTECT PUBLIC HEALTH, BUT TO PROTECT OUR ENVIRONMENT AS WELL.
THAT CONCLUDES OUR ZOOM COMMENTS.
[6.1 Municipal Clerk's Week May 3 - May 9, 2026]
GO INTO PROCLAMATIONS.AND SINCE WE WERE JUST HEAR HEARING FROM OUR CITY CLERK, WHICH JUST HAPPENS TO BE MUNICIPAL CITY CLERKS WEEK, AND, UM, AND I SHOULD PUT ALSO SAY PROFESSIONAL, UH, MUNICIPAL CITY CLERKS.
AND THERE'S, THERE IS A DIFFERENCE.
AND, UH, UM, SO WE DO, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU TAKE A LOOK AT ALL THE THINGS THAT, UH, THAT A CITY CLERK ACTUALLY DOES, YOU KNOW, IN DEALING WITH ALL OF THE DIFFERENT, UH, FORMS, UH, DEALING WITH EVERYONE WHO RUNS FOR ELECTION, DEALING WITH ALL OF, ALL OF THAT, ALL THAT FUN STUFF, UH, WITH ALL OF THE, UH, NOTIFICATIONS AND FORMS, EVERYTHING THAT GO WITH THAT.
AND WE KNOW HOW, HOW EXCITING THAT IS.
AND, UH, BUT THEN OF COURSE WITH OUR, OUR AGENDAS, UH, JUST, IT'S A CONSTANT, UH, FLURRY OF STUFF.
AND OF COURSE WE'VE TAKEN ON A NEW ONE HERE AS OUR CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
IT'S NOW DOING PASSPORTS, WHICH IS, UH, UH, SOMETHING A LITTLE, LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
AND, UH, SO VERY, VERY ACTIVE, UH, CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
TANYA, ARE YOU GONNA BE ACCEPTING THIS ON IN HER HER HONOR? SHELLY WILL SPEAK ON IT AND I'LL ACCEPT IT THEN.
THEN I'M GONNA TURN THIS OVER.
UH, SHELLY, IF YOU WOULD APPROACH THE MIC AND
UH, GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
ON BEHALF OF OUR CITY CLERK'S OFFICE, THANK YOU FOR THE PROCLAMATION.
RECOGNIZING MUNICIPAL CLERKS WEEK.
UH, WE TRULY APPRECIATE THE, UH, ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF A PROFESSION THAT OFTEN WORKS BEHIND THE SCENES TO KEEP LOCAL GOVERNMENT RUNNING SMOOTHLY.
UH, THE ROLE OF THE MUNICIPAL CLERK IS ROOTED IN TRANSPARENCY, ACCOUNTABILITY, AND SERVICE TO THE PUBLIC.
AND WHETHER IT'S PREPARING, AS YOU MENTIONED, MAYOR, THE AGENDAS, UH, MAINTAINING OFFICIAL RECORDS, ADMINISTERING THE ELECTIONS, OR ENSURING COMPLIANCE WITH THE OPEN MEETING LAWS, OUR WORK HOLD, UH, HELPS UPHOLD THE INTEGRITY AND DE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS AT A LOCAL LEVEL.
UM, THE, THE RECOGNITION ALSO BELONGS TO THE DEDICATED PROFESSIONALS.
I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF WORKING ALONGSIDE EVERY DAY IN MY OFFICE.
THEIR ATTENTION TO DETAIL, COMMITMENT TO ACCURACY AND UNWAVERING SUPPORT FOR THIS ORGANIZATION DO NOT GO UNNOTICED.
UM, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE GUIDANCE AND STANDARDS SET BY ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE IIMC WHO GIVES, UH, TANYA AND I, OUR CREDENTIALS, THE CMC AND THE MMC, UH, WHICH CONTINUE TO ELEVATE OUR PROFESSION AND PROVIDE VALUABLE TO TRAINING AND RESOURCES.
UH, WE ARE PROUD TO SERVE THIS COMMUNITY AND REMAIN COMMITTED TO PROVIDING RESPONSIVE, TRANSPARENT, AND EFFECTIVE SERVICE TO BOTH THE COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC.
IT IS AN HONOR TO SERVE THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY AND NATIONAL CITY AND TO SUPPORT A LOCAL GOVERNMENT THAT IS DEDICATED TO INTEGRITY, SERVICE, AND COMMUNITY.
SO WE APPRECIATE THIS AND THANK YOU FOR THE HONOR.
HAVE YOU EVEN GOT A SPECIAL BACKGROUND FOR THIS, THIS WEEK? SO,
SO TANYA, IF YOU WOULD LOVE TO COME FORWARD, THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE, UH, DEPARTMENT.
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THERE YOU GO.[7. REGIONAL BOARDS AND COMMITTEE REPORTS (Limited to Five (5) Minutes each)]
INTO REGIONAL REPORTS AND COMMITTEE, UH, REPORTS.I'M, UH, I'LL START DOWN HERE ON MY LEFT.
UH, REMEMBER YAMANI, NOTHING TO REPORT YET.
NOTHING'S HAPPENED UP THERE YET.
NO UPDATES SINCE LAST MEETING.
UH, I DID GO TO SANDAG AND THERE ARE UPDATES, UH, I WILL SHARE THEM IN DETAIL NEXT TIME.
UH, THIS FRIDAY THERE IS A BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING, BUT I AM NOT ABLE TO ATTEND.
I HAVE, UH, SOMETHING ELSE TO DO.
SO OUR, UM, ALTERNATE TO THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY FOR SANDAG WILL BE ATTENDING.
OH, HAD I NOT NOTIFIED YOU,
WELL, I, YEAH, AND, AND I, UM, I HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO REPORT, BUT YEAH, I GET TO SIT ON THE POLICY COMMITTEES FOR SANDAG AND I ALSO DO THEIR NATIONAL REPRESENTATION.
BUT, UH, IT'S BEEN, I THINK ABOUT SEVEN YEARS SINCE I'VE ACTUALLY SAT ON THE BOARD.
YOU DO KNOW THAT THEY'RE AT IN A DIFFERENT BUILDING NOW.
RIGHT? IT'S NOT THAT, THAT RUMOR.
SEVEN YEARS AGO, I, I HEARD THAT THEY MOVED JUST TO TRY TO KEEP ME FROM GET GETTING THERE.
AND, UH, BUT YEAH, I, I SERVED ON THERE FOR 21 YEARS AND, UH, UM, SO GET TO GET TO SEE WHAT THE, GET GOT NEW CHAIRS OR NOT.
I'LL FIND THAT OUT THIS FRIDAY.
UH, OTHER THAN THAT, I HAVE NOTHING TO REPORT ON THAT.
[8. CONSENT CALENDAR]
WE GO ON INTO CONSENT CALENDAR.THIS IS ITEMS, UH, EIGHT ONE THROUGH EIGHT EIGHT.
I DO HAVE REQUESTS TO PULL 8 4, 8 7 AND EIGHT EIGHT.
MOTION TO APPROVE THE, UH, REMAINDER OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM SECOND.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
WE CAN PUT YOU, PUSH YOUR BUTTONS FOR THE MOTIONS, PLEASE.
IN THAT CASE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A MUNICIPAL CLERK WEEKS, UH, ROLL CALL.
UH, COUNCIL MEMBER IMANI? YES.
[8.4 Authorizing the issuance of a Request for Proposal for Towing and Impound Services for the City of National City.]
SO THEN WE'LL GO TO EIGHT FOUR.THIS IS AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL FOR TOWING AND IMPOUND SERVICES FOR THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY.
I JUST WANNA INFORM THE COUNCIL AND THE MEMBERS WHAT THIS I WANT TO, UH, IN THE P IN THE CITIZENS THAT THIS PROPOSAL, THE TOW DRIVERS, THE TWO TOW, TWO TOW CO TWO TOW COMPANIES ARE ANGELO'S AND A ONE.
AND THEY PAY THE CITY $150,000 A YEAR.
THEY BOTH, THEY BOTH PAY, THEY PAY A TOTAL OF $150,000 A YEAR.
AND ACCORDING TO THE INFORMATION IN THE, THAT I'VE READ, THERE'S ABOUT 1,200 CARS A YEAR.
NOW YOU DIVIDE THAT BY 150,000.
THAT MEANS EACH CAR HAS TO PAY EACH, EVERY TIME THE TOW TRUCK GOES OUT, IT HAS TO PAY $125.
SOMEONE HAS TO PAY 105, $25 BEFORE THEY MAKE ANY MONEY AT ALL.
SO I'M JUST POINTING THAT OUT.
AND THAT'S, IT'S PRETTY, $125 IS PRETTY EXPENSIVE.
ALSO, I THINK THE STATE REQUIRES $125, 125.
AND, BUT THE CITY, WHEN THEY TOW A CITY CAR, IT GETS 25% OF THE BASE RATE.
I DIDN'T, BUT THEY DON'T GET THE $125, I DON'T THINK MM-HMM
AND THEY GET, AND THE, THE, THE TOW COMPANY GETS, THE TOW COMPANY GETS, THE CITY GETS FIVE THREE FREE TOWS FOR FIVE THREE TOWS BEFORE THEY CAN CHARGE THE CITY.
THE NATIONAL CITY PAYS $60 FOR RECOVERED STOLEN CAR PAYS $60.
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A LOT OF EXPENSIVE CARS IN NATIONAL CITY.ALRIGHT, COUNSEL, WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE? THIS IS ON EIGHT FORBES.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND AND, UH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE ROLL CALL.
[Items 8.7 & 8.8]
WE HAVE, UH, ITEMS EIGHT, SEVEN, AND EIGHT EIGHT.THESE ARE THE WARRANT REGISTRIES.
AND, UH, SO I'M GONNA CALL UP, UH, MR. THOMAS REICH.
FIRST, THIS IS FOR THE WARRANT REGISTRIES.
AND AFTER HIM, MR. EDWIN NETTO, UH, HOW MANY MINUTES DO I HAVE? I JUST DON'T KNOW.
UH, YOU GET FOUR MINUTES 'CAUSE YOU'RE DEALING TWO DIFFERENT ITEMS. TWO DIFFERENT ITEMS. ALRIGHT.
THE CITY MANAGER, CITY LEADERSHIP TRAINING 24,000, UH, COMMUNITY SERVICES BASKETBALL, 24 24, 2400.
COSTCO, FIRE PROTECTION, FIRE SERVICE FOR BACK FLOW PREVENTION, 120,000.
UH, POLICE, CDW PANASONIC, IT'S EITHER TOUGH BOOK OR TOUCH BOOK.
128,000, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS.
UH, A HUNDRED, UH, EMERGENCY VEHICLE BUILD OUT FOR FOUR POLICE INTERCEPTORS, 117,000 ENTERPRISES FLEET, 53,000 CITY ATTORNEY FOR HAMRICK AND ENGINE 45,000 FITNESS, FITNESS DIRECT ELGEN FUNCTIONAL TRAINER, $4,800 39 ENGINEERING PUBLIC WORKS GEO SYNTEX, CLEAN, CLEAN UP 53,700.
UM, I CIRCUIT TRANSIT, 23,000 FOR THE, AND IN, IN, IN EVIC INNOVATIVE CONSTRUCTION, 55,000.
THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO EMERGENCY MEDICAL DISPATCH, 270,000 CITY MANAGER IN AND OUT BURGERS $137 MARGATE ANNUAL NATIONAL ION FOR CIAN A HUNDRED $1,800 POLICE FOR ANAHEIM, THE S HOTELS IN ANAHEIM, 2,500.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR. EDWARDO.
I HAVE THREE COMMENTS ON THIS.
THE WARRANT REGISTER, YOU KNOW, I KEEP ASKING THEM THE WARRANT REGISTER, YOU HAVE THE DATE OF PAYMENT, UH, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE THE DATE THAT THE, THE PAYMENT PERTAINS TO.
IN THE PAST, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD THESE THINGS THAT COME SIX MONTHS LATER, EIGHT MONTHS LATER, YOU'RE COMING TO YEAR END.
WHAT YOU DON'T WANT IS IN ANOTHER EXCUSE TO DELAY THE AUDIT FROM BEING FROM THE FISCAL YEAR TO BE CLOSED AND THE AUDIT TO BE DELAYED.
THE SECOND THING I THINK MR. RIKER TRYING SAY IS THAT SOME OF THIS COST SOUNDS VERY REASONABLE, YOU KNOW, AND I GOTTA TELL YOU, I HEAR HIM, I DON'T LAUGH.
I HEAR HIM AND I THINK, IS THIS NECESSARY AND IS IT REASONABLE? AND WE THINK, AND I THINK SOME OF THE COSTS HE'S MENTIONING AREN'T APPARENTLY REASONABLE AND, AND AND NECESSARY FOR THE PUBLIC.
THE THIRD THING I WANNA SAY IS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ZERO BASE, UH, BUDGETING.
YOU HAVE A-A-A-A-A TOOL HERE THAT MIGHT HELP YOU HAVE THE PROJECT MODULE AND BASED ON THE ALIASES THAT ARE BEING CODED IN YOUR PAYROLL SYSTEM, THEY'RE GONNA FALL INTO YOUR PROJECT MODULE.
BUT YOU GUYS HAVEN'T BEEN TALKING THIS UP, SO YOU TALK ABOUT PROJECT BUDGETING, UH, ZERO BASED BUDGETING, BUT YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IT IS AND YOU MIGHT EVEN HAVE IT AND YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW IT.
SO I THINK YOU GUYS NEED TO GET FISCALLY EDUCATED ON WHAT YOU HAVE, AND I THINK IT WOULD HELP.
THAT'S ALL WE HAVE ON EIGHT SEVEN AND EIGHT EIGHT, WHICH IS THE WARRANTS.
WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE? MOVE TO APPROVE.
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SECOND.AND A SECOND WE HAVE ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
[9.1 HUD 2026-2027 Annual Action Plan Public Hearing No. 2 of 2 ]
NEXT WE GO INTO PUBLIC HEARINGS.AND OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING IS, UH, NINE ONE.
PUBLIC HEARING NUMBER TWO OF TWO.
AND WITH THAT, WE'LL, UH, TAKE STAFF REPORT.
I'M A COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT SPECIALIST WITH THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY.
UH, SO THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS FOR THE PUBLIC TO OFFER INPUT AND THE COUNCIL TO DECIDE ON THE ALLOCATION OF CDBG AND HOME FUNDING TO PROJECTS.
UH, SO HERE WE'RE PRESENTING SOME FUNDING RECOMMENDATIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 26 27.
UH, SO FOR CDBG, UH, WE'RE RECOMMENDING 370,000 FOR THE NC NATIONAL CITY FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR THE ACQUISITION OF ESSENTIAL EMERGENCY MEDICAL EQUIPMENT TO SUPPORT AMBULANCE OPERATIONS AND OFFSET, UH, GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES.
UH, WE HAVE 61,000 FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES HOUSING INSPECTION PROGRAM, UH, WHERE FUNDS WILL BE USED TO COVER, UH, 0.5 FTE OF THE, UH, PERSONNEL COSTS OF THE FULL-TIME HOUSING INSPECTOR WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES DIVISION.
UH, WE HAVE, UH, 519,000 TO THE ENGINEERING PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT FOR CAMACHO GYM UPGRADES.
UH, THE FUNDS WOULD BE USED FOR REHABILITATION AND UPGRADES AND TO ALLOW THE FACILITY TO SERVE AS AN EMERGENCY SHELTER.
AND THEN AS, UH, USUAL 20% OF THE CDBG ANNUAL ALLOCATION, UH, FOR ADMINISTRATION ALONG WITH REQUIRED, UH, FAIR HOUSING SERVICES ADMINISTERED THROUGH CSA SAN DIEGO.
UH, FOR THE HOME PROGRAM, UH, WE WERE RECOMMENDING 294,000 FOR, UH, TENANT BASED RENTAL ASSISTANCE, UH, THROUGH SBCS.
UH, THE FUNDS WOULD GO TOWARDS, UH, RENTAL ASSISTANCE, CASE MANAGEMENT, AND SUPPORTIVE SERVICES FOR NATIONAL CITY INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES.
UM, 15% OF THE HOME ALLOCATION, UH, PER STATUTORY, PER PER STATUTE IS SET ASIDE, UM, FOR A COMMUNITY HOUSING DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATION FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT PROJECT.
AND THEN 10% IS RESERVED FOR THE HOME PROGRAM ADMINISTRATION.
SO I CAN, UH, TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
ANY QUESTIONS OF THE PRESENTATION? OKAY.
WITH THAT, I WILL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE HAVE, UH, TWO SPEAKERS, UM, CESAR, JAVIER AND EDO.
I STAYED IN MY AUNTIE'S UNCLE'S HOUSE AT THE END OF THIS 80 STREET BY THOSE RESTAURANTS ACROSS THE CREEK.
AND WE FOUND SOMETHING VERY, VERY INTERESTING.
AND SO WHENEVER I SEE SHELTERING PROGRAM, WHATEVER THE TITLE, WHATEVER THE NAME OF THE PROGRAM, WHATEVER THE SOURCE OF THE FUNDING, WE COULD ONLY SAY THAT WE MUST, BECAUSE THAT IS ONE ELEMENT IN URBAN PLANNING TO PROTECT THE HUMANS FROM ELEMENTS.
THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
AND I JUST WOULD LIKE TO RECALL OUR STUDY AND FULFILLING SUCH ELEMENT IN PLANNING.
SOME COUNTRIES CHOOSE ALLOCATION AND BUILD DECENT.
WHEN YOU SAY DECENT HOME, IT'S IN A SUITABLE SURROUNDING COUNCILOR, UH, BUSH, YOU KNOW WHAT WE MEAN? WE DISCUSSED LY ABOUT THE IMPLEMENTING GUIDELINES OF SQL, WHICH IS THE BROTHER SISTER OF LANDUS AND PLANNING AND ENVIRONMENTAL AND LANDUS AND CAME THE BROTHER SWA.
I HOPE WE UNDERSTOOD THAT BY HEART, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IS NOW THE
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MODERN BASIS OF ALL THIS GO NO-GO PROJECTS IN URBAN PLANNING.I SAY THIS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE REALLY PROBLEM ON SPACES.
WHO AND HOW MUCH WILL THE RENTAL PAY WHEN HE CANNOT OR SHE CANNOT AFFORD? HE MIGHT BE SICK, HE MIGHT BE CAPABLE IN WORTH GETTING, AND THEREFORE NO SHELTER.
SO WE MUST BUILD, DEDICATED THE SHELTER.
I I HAVE MORE OF A QUESTION HERE.
THIS IS HUD FUNDING, UH, UH, CDBG FUNDING.
NORMALLY IN GRANTS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A PROCESS OF APPLYING FOR GRANTS AND GETTING APPROVED.
AND ONE OF THE PROCESSES, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STANDARD AMONGST ALL THESE FEDERAL GRANTS IS THAT YOU ASK FOR AN AUDIT REPORT.
AND IF THE AUDIT REPORT IS NOT TIMELY AND YOU'RE PUT ON ALERT, IF IT'S NOT TIMELY CONSECUTIVELY, THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU'RE ON A BAD BOY LIST FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
SO I GOTTA THINK HERE THAT YOU GUYS THAT ARE START ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT IF YOU'RE HAVING CONSECUTIVE TIME UNTIMELY AUDIT REPORTS THAT ARE BEING FILED, ARE YOU JEOPARDIZING YOUR FUNDING? JUST A QUESTION.
UH, MR. THOMAS REICH, UH, I LOOKED AT THIS, I LOOKED AT THIS, UH, PROPOSAL AND IT'S 700, 6,300 25,000 IS GOING TO THE, FOR THE AMBULANCE.
NOW, I LOOKED AT THE OTHER THINGS FOR THE THINGS.
I DON'T HAVE A, I HAVEN'T GOT MY NOTES RIGHT, BUT IT'S LIKE $20,000 FOR HOME IMPROVEMENTS AND OTHER THINGS.
HOW CAN YOU, HOW CAN YOU FIX ALL THE HOMES IN, FIX ALL THE HOMES IN NATIONAL CITY FOR 25,000 FOR WITH, FOR LOW INCOME PEOPLE? IT'S, IT'S A GREAT PROMISE, BUT IT, IT DOESN'T, IT'S NOT TRUE.
THAT'S ALL THE SPEAKERS WE HAVE.
I WOULD LOOK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
WE HAVE A MOTION? DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
COULD WE HAVE ROLL CALL PLEASE? THIS IS JUST TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, THIS, DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS? YES, COMMENTS.
UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION, MR. DAVID.
I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE, UM, YOU SAID IT WAS, UH, THE HOUSING INSPECTION PROGRAM, THE 61 K THAT IS FOR, UM, SALARY FOR A, UM, UM, A FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE, HALF OF THEIR SALARY.
IS THAT, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
AND THE IDEA WOULD BE TO, UH, OFFSET SOME OF THOSE EXPENDITURES FROM A GENERAL FUND? IS THIS HIRING A NEW PERSON? UH, NO.
SO IT OFFSETS AN EXISTING YEAH.
UM, IS THAT TYPICALLY HOW, UM, THE SALARY FOR THIS POSITION IS HANDLED? SO IN ADDITION, THIS, THIS EMPLOYEE WOULD BE, UM, PERFORMING SOME CDBG PROPERTY INSPECTION DUTIES AS WELL, BUT, SO THIS IS AN ADDITIONAL SCOPE FOR THE POSITION.
PLEASE SAY IT'S A SPECIFIC, YEAH.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S MORE TO ADD THERE.
UH, HI, UH, VICE MAYOR, UH, MARTIN LEADER DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR.
UH, WE ALREADY HAVE TO OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES DEPARTMENT FOR DIVISION, UH, INSPECTIONS, HOUSING INSPECTIONS THAT ARE PERFORMED ON AN, UH, YOU KNOW, AS NEEDED BASIS.
WE ALSO, WHEN WE CAN USE THEM TO INSPECT, UH, OTHER, UH, RESTRICTED UNITS OR SECTION EIGHT UNITS OR, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY FROM OTHER JURISDICTIONS.
BUT, UH, THE IN THE INTENTION IS TO ADD TO THAT WITH RESPECT TO, UM, YEAH, THE HOME FUNDED UNIT, HOME FUNDED UNITS, AND THEN WE WOULD OFFSET HALF OF THEIR SALARY UP TO HALF OF THEIR SALARY WITH THESE FUNDS, WHICH WOULD OF COURSE
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OFFSET THE GENERAL FUND.AND MY QUESTION IS, IS, IS THIS HOW THIS IS HANDLED EVERY YEAR? YES, I BELIEVE SO.
BUT DO YOU WANNA ANSWER THAT ANGELINA? UM, SO NO, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IT, IT'S NOT HOW IT'S HANDLED EVERY YEAR, BUT PREVIOUSLY THE POSITION WAS, UM, HOUSED IN THE HOUSING AUTHORITY.
UH, IT WAS THEN MOVED OVER TO NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, UH, DEPARTMENT WHEN, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, THERE WAS A TRANSITION.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE SEEN OVER THE COURSE OF MANY YEARS, UM, SOME REARRANGEMENT OF, UM, OUR CITY DEPARTMENTS.
SO, UH, CURRENTLY OUR SENIOR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, UH, DOES, UM, HOUSING INSPECTIONS.
SO WE'RE JUST ASKING HIM TO CONTINUE DOING, UH, THOSE INSPECTIONS.
BUT NOW WE'RE GOING TO, UM, ASK HIM TO DO IT, UM, AND WE'RE GOING TO FUND HIS POSITION.
AND ADDITIONALLY, UH, WE'RE GOING TO LAUNCH A REHABILITATION PROGRAM WITH THE USE OF CDBG FUNDS.
AND, UH, SO WITH THAT, WE'LL BE ABLE TO COVER PART OF HIS SALARY.
SO HE'S STILL PERFORMING, UM, HIS SAME DUTIES.
UM, REALLY, UM, THE ONLY, UH, ADDITIONAL WORK, UH, WHICH WE'VE DISCUSSED, UM, IT'S NOT GONNA ADD LIKE THAT MUCH TO HIS EXISTING CASELOAD.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL BE WORKED, UM, OUT WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR STAFF.
SO WITH THAT, UM, PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
UH, I WAS JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE, UM, IT SEEMS LIKE A PECULIAR SITUATION, YOU KNOW, TO, TO FUND A AN FTE THIS WAY OR HAVE OF AN FTE THIS WAY.
UM, AND I WAS JUST WONDERING, IS THIS TYPICAL, DOES THIS HAPPEN OFTEN? IS THIS, SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, ONE YEAR OF FUNDING, RIGHT? THIS IS THE C-D-B-D-C CG RECOMMENDATIONS FOR ONE YEAR? YES.
AND IN PREVIOUS YEARS, WE, UM, AFTER THE TRANSITION OF THE POSITION TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES DEPARTMENT, UM, WE DID FUND THE POSITION, UM, UH, FOR MANY YEARS.
UH, BUT THE, THERE IS A REQUIREMENT WITH CDBG THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE A REHAB PROGRAM IF WE'RE GOING TO FUND A CODE ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITY, SUCH AS A HOUSING INSPECTION PROGRAM.
SO, UM, IT, SO WITH THAT REQUIREMENT, NOW THAT WE'RE GONNA LAUNCH A REHAB PROGRAM, WE CAN NOW FUND AGAIN A HOUSING INSPECTOR.
UH, AND THEN MY OTHER QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH, UM, UH, CHDO, WHICH IS COMMUNITY HOUSING DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATION SET ASIDE, AND THAT'S A 58 K.
WELL, WHAT DOES, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? SO THOSE FUNDS, UH, CAN ONLY BE USED BY DEDICATED COMMUNITY HOUSING DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATIONS, WHICH IS A CLASSIFICATION THAT YOU HAVE TO MEET CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS FOR.
UM, WE ARE REQUIRED BY, UH, STATUTE TO SET ASIDE 15% OF OUR ALLOCATION TOWARDS THAT.
SO WE DON'T HAVE A PROJECT, UH, TO PUT THOSE FUNDS TOWARDS RIGHT NOW.
SO THEY ARE JUST PUT ASIDE FOR A FUTURE PROJECT WHEN ONE OF THOSE COMES.
COULD IT BE LIKE IN CASE THERE'S COST OVERRUNS IN SOME OF THESE OTHER ONES OR SOMETHING? UH, IT WOULD NEED TO BE THROUGH ONE OF THESE DEDICATED CHDO ORGANIZATIONS, SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE WOULD NEED TO PLAN FOR IN ADVANCE.
BUT AT LEAST IT'S A BIT OF A SAFETY NET.
WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE THOSE FUNDS AVAILABLE SHOULD A A PROJECT COME TO OUR ATTENTION.
UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS, MAYOR, AND IF YOU'RE OPEN FOR A MOTION, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
SO MAYOR, MAYOR, I WILL SECOND.
YES, WE HAVE, UM, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER YAMANI HAD HER HAND UP.
OH, OH, I CAN'T YOU GOT HER THE SMALL SCREEN OVER THERE.
UM, SO I HAD A VERY GOOD BRIEFING WITH, UM, MR. DAVID AND, AND MARTIN WITH REGARDS TO THIS, UH, PROGRAM.
AND, UH, DURING MY BRIEFING WITH CITY MANAGER AND DEPUTY CITY MANAGER AND CITY ATTORNEY, I HAD SOME QUESTIONS THAT, UM, I HAD POSED TO OUR CITY MANAGER.
UM, SO I THINK THOSE ARE GONNA BE FOLLOWED THROUGH.
I HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN THIS, UM, COMMUNITY HOUSING DEVELOPMENT ORG, UH, THAT IS SET ASIDE.
I WAS EDUCATED BY DAVID THAT, UM, THIS IS, UM, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE, WE CAN, UM, USE, UM, FOR, UH, ADDITIONAL, UM, TENANT BASED RENTAL ASSISTANCE OR, UM, CITY MANAGER WILL WITH, UH, THE, WITH THE, UH, UM, WITH THE DEPARTMENT, WITH WITH, UH, MARTIN WILL LOOK INTO HOW ELSE CAN WE USE THIS, UH, RESTRICTIVE FUNDING FOR, UH, MAYBE SERVICES FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, IN THE CITY.
SO WE WILL, WE WILL SEE MAYOR.
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A QUESTION ON THAT SAME AREA THERE.UH, AT ONE TIME WE USED, UH, THE HOME FUNDS.
THAT WAS, THAT WAS WITHIN THAT, UH, THAT CATEGORY.
AND WE USED IT AS PART OF A FIRST TIME HOME BUYER PROGRAM.
AND WHAT IT BASICALLY DID WAS USING, UH, THE MONEY TO, UH, FOR, UH, TO HELP PEOPLE BUY OUT THEIR, THEIR MORTGAGE INSURANCE SO THAT YOU BUY IT OUT UPFRONT.
IT'S A VERY LOW COST BY DOING IT THAT WAY, AND IT REDUCES THEIR MONTHLY PAYMENTS.
SO IT MAKES IT EASIER FOR THEM TO QUALIFY TO, UH, UH, TO BUY A HOUSE.
AND, UH, AND WE DO HAVE A LOT OF HOUSES FOR SALE THAT GO FOR SALE IN NATIONAL CITY.
AND I'D MUCH RATHER SEE 'EM GO FOR FIRST TIME HOME BUYERS THAN SOMEONE BUY 'EM TO, TO MAKE RENTALS OUT OF 'EM OR WHATEVER.
UM, THE, UH, SO KIND OF THE QUESTION COMES UP NOW, THIS, ON THIS TENANT BASED RENTAL SYSTEM, IF I LOOK AT THE DETAILS OF IT, IT'S ACTUALLY, UH, FOR HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS AND, UH, FAMILIES AND FOR CASEWORK AND FOR, UH, RENTAL ASSISTANCE.
SO I'M JUST WONDERING BETWEEN LIKE THOSE TWO IDEAS, NOT ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, JUST COME BACK AT SOME POINT.
THERE'S NO HURRY, BUT COME BACK AT SOME POINT AND SAY, OKAY, WHICH ONE IS IT EASIER TO GET LIKE OTHER GRANTS FROM? UH, AND THAT, WOULD IT BE EASIER TO DO SO GET GRANTS THAT DEAL WITH HOMELESSNESS, SHALL WE SAY? SO THAT WE COULD HAVE A FIRST TIME HOME BUYER PROGRAM, UH, AND USE THESE FUNDS FOR THAT, OR, OR IS IT THE OTHER WAY AROUND? YOU KNOW, WHICH, WHICH ONE IS IT EASIER FOR US TO GET OUTSIDE, OUTSIDE MONEY TO REPLACE ONE UNDER THE OTHER OR SOME OTHER PROGRAM THAT MIGHT, MIGHT FIT INTO THAT CATEGORY.
BUT CERTAINLY THAT'S ONE THAT WE USED IN THE PAST THAT WAS VERY EFFECTIVE AND WHEN THEY CUT WAY BACK ON HOME FUNDS, THAT THAT PROGRAM GOT CUT AND, UH, WE NEVER HAVE BROUGHT IT BACK.
SO AT LEAST FOR THE MOMENT, WE GOT HOME FUNDS AGAIN.
AND, UM,
AND, UH, UM, AND SO I'LL GO AND MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THE, THE MOST OUT OF THEM AND NOT NECESSARILY THE EASIEST THING TO DO.
AND SO THAT, UM, IF THERE ARE, IF THERE ARE OTHER AREAS THAT WE CAN GET, UH, GET GRANT MONEY TO AND SO THAT WE CAN DO MULTIPLE PROGRAMS, UH, IT WOULD BE GOOD TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
BUT I SAY THAT'S JUST A WIDE OPEN QUESTION.
IT'S NOTHING SPECIFIC AT THIS STAGE.
ALRIGHT, AT THIS POINT WE DO HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND SEEING NO OTHER DISCUSSION.
COULD WE HAVE ROLL CALL PLEASE? COUNCIL MEMBER YAMANI AYE.
[9.2 Public Hearing – Consideration of Certification of a Negative Declaration and Approval of a Conditional Use Permit and Coastal Development Permit for Liquified Petroleum Gas Storage and Dispensing to be Located at 2100 Haffley Avenue.]
NEXT WE GET INTO PUBLIC HEARING.THIS IS A CONSIDERATION OF CERTIFICATION OF A NEGATIVE DECLARATION AND APPROVAL OF A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT FOR A LIQUIFIED PETROLEUM, UH, GAS STORAGE AND DISPENSING TO BE LOCATED AT 2100 HALFWAY AVENUE STAFF.
AND HELLO AGAIN, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL STAFF PUBLIC MARTIN ARD, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR.
UH, WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT THAT WE'RE APPLIED FOR AND WENT THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT, UH, 2100 HALFLY AVENUE IN THE MEDIUM MANUFACTURING ZONE, WHICH IS LOCATED IN OUR COASTAL ZONE WEST OF I FIVE.
IT'S ON THE WEST SIDE OF HALFLY, A COUPLE BLOCKS NORTH OF, UH, BAY MARINA DRIVE, AND IT IS BETWEEN HALFWAY AVENUE AND THE RAILROAD TRACKS THAT BISECT THE CITY.
THE BUSINESS THAT IS THERE IS WEST AIR, A BUSINESS THAT HAS BEEN, UH, IN THIS AREA FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
UH, AGAIN, THIS IS THE COASTAL ZONE OVERLAY, SO THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT.
BUT THE, UH, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IS FOR BULK GAS STORAGE.
THE PROPERTY, AGAIN, IS, IT ISN'T AN INDUSTRIAL ZONE.
IT'S ALMOST 90,000 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE, AND THERE'S A 25 OR ALMOST 24,000 SQUARE FOOT WAREHOUSE BUILDING, UH, ON THE SITE.
THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER WEST AIR BUSINESS, A FEW, UH, BUILDINGS DOWN ON THE SAME, UH, SIDE OF THE STREET.
SO THE BUSINESS DOES DEAL WITH, UH, WITH GASES, WELL, GASES, WHICH ARE, UH, TRADITIONALLY CONSIDERED HAZARDOUS MATERIALS.
THE USE IN AND OF ITSELF IS ALLOWED BY, RIGHT, IT'S JUST THE, THE BULK STORAGE IN THIS CASE, THE AMOUNT, THE 30,000 GALLON, UH, CONTAINER, WHICH I'LL TALK ABOUT IN A LITTLE BIT, WHICH IS WHAT TRIGGERED THE, THE, UH, THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
UH, OTHER INFORMATION ABOUT THE SITE, THERE IS WHAT'S CALLED AN AIR SPARGE AND SOIL VAPOR EXTRACTION FACILITY.
THERE, THERE WAS AN UNDERGROUND STORAGE TANK SOME TIME AGO.
ALL THE OLD UNDERGROUND STORAGE TANKS BACK IN THE DAY ALL LEAKED.
AND THE, THE GROUND IS REMEDIATED, AND THIS IS THE SYSTEM.
THIS IS THE SYSTEM IN WHICH THAT, THAT LAND IS REMEDIATED.
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GAS STATION, FORMER GAS STATIONS AROUND TOWN USUALLY TAKES QUITE A LONG TIME.THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THOSE PROPERTIES NOT DEVELOPED RIGHT AWAY.
UH, BUT THAT WAS INSTALLED BACK IN MARCH, 2022.
THE, THE REMEDIATION IS ONGOING, BUT WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE CHECKED WITH, WITH THE POWERS THAT BE THE PERMITTING AGENCY, AND WE HAVE DETERMINED THAT THERE IS NO CONFLICT OR INTERFERENCE RELATED TO THIS PROPOSAL.
A COUPLE OF QUICK SITE PHOTOGRAPHS.
THIS IS, UH, LOOKING WEST FROM HALFWAY AT THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING, AND AGAIN, LOOKING PROBABLY, UH, SOUTHWEST AT THE, UH, ENTRANCE TO THE, THE LOT.
AND THAT IS THE, THE MAJOR AREA NEXT TO THE, UH, THE BUILDING.
AND YOU CAN SEE THE RAILROAD CARS IN THE BACK THERE.
SO IT'S LOOKING WEST TOWARDS THE RAILROAD TRACKS.
AGAIN, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO INSTALL A, A LARGE OR A BULK, UH, PROPANE OR LPG.
UM, THOSE TWO TERMS ARE NOT NECESSARILY INTERCHANGEABLE, SO FORGIVE ME, I'LL LET THE APPLICANT TALK MORE ABOUT THAT.
BUT, UH, LIQUID PROPANE GAS AND, UH, THE DISPENSING EQUIPMENT FOR THAT, IT WOULD BE USED TO FILL FIVE TO 25 GALLON TANKS.
SO NORMAL, UH, SORT OF RESIDENTIAL AND RECREATIONAL USE TANKS, UH, THE FACILITY WOULD BE REFILLED APPROXIMATELY EVERY TWO WEEKS WITH A, WITH A ONE TRUCK VISIT.
AND AGAIN, THE BULK STORAGE DOES REQUIRE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
AND ALTHOUGH THIS AREA IS WITHIN, OR THIS PROPERTY IS WITHIN AN AREA THAT IS CONSIDERED EXEMPT FROM A COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT, THE, UM, THE NEED FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT OR ANY DISCRETIONARY PERMIT TRIGGERS THE NEED FOR A COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT.
THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN IS A COUPLE OF EXTRA FINDINGS RELATED SPECIFICALLY TO CONSISTENCY WITH THE COASTAL PLAN.
UH, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, ABOUT THE GAS.
OBVIOUSLY THE GAS IS HEAVIER THAN AIR.
IT'S TYPICALLY ODORLESS, COLORLESS.
IT DOES HAVE AN ODORANT LIKE ALL, ALL GASES.
AND, UH, IF IT LEAKS, OF COURSE IT WOULD GO TO THE LOWEST POINT.
BUT THE ODORANT IS INTENDED TO BE A, UH, LEAK DETECTION DEVICE.
UH, IF THE, THE GAS WILL SPILL FROM THE VEHICLE OR RELEASE FROM THE TANK, IT PRESENTS NO THREAT TO SOIL, SURFACE WATER OR GROUNDWATER.
IT WOULD GENERALLY DISPERSE IN THE AIR.
UH, LOOKING AT THE OVERHEAD AGAIN, SO THE, UH, THE RED SQUARE THERE IS THE BACK PART OF THE PROPERTY WHERE ROUGHLY THIS, UH, FACILITY WOULD BE LOCATED.
SO THE, IN THIS UH, DIAGRAM HERE, YOU CAN SEE THE BLUE, WHICH IS THE BUILDING, THE GREEN LONG GREEN, UH, SKINNY RECTANGLE IS THE PROPOSED TANK.
AND THEN THE, THE RED SQUARE IN THE TOP LEFT CORNER IS SORT OF THE, THE ROUGH AREA WHERE THE DISPENSING EQUIPMENT AND PIPING LEADING FROM THE TANK IS LOCATED.
AND THIS IS MORE OF A, OF A CLOSEUP ON THAT.
SO THE, UH, THE TANK IS IN EXCESS OF, OF 50 FEET LONG, PROBABLY ABOUT 10 FEET IN DIAMETER, ROUGHLY.
IT DOES HAVE A CAPACITY THAT IS, THAT IS MORE THAN 30,000 OR IT'S 30,000, BUT IT WOULDN'T CARRY EXACTLY THAT AMOUNT OF GAS.
IT'S USUALLY UNDERFILLED FOR EXPANSION PURPOSES.
AGAIN, I'LL LET THE APPLICANT TALK MORE ABOUT THAT.
WITH REGARD TO THE GENERAL PLAN, THERE IS OBVIOUSLY OUR, OUR STANDARD LAND USE CODE OR LAND USE POLICY RELATED TO, UH, ALL DEVELOPMENT BEING CONSISTENT WITH THE ZONING, THE GENERAL PLAN, AND ANY OTHER APPLICABLE SPECIFIC PLANS OR ANY OTHER PLANS IN THIS CASE, THE LOCAL COASTAL PLAN WOULD, WOULD BE PART OF THAT.
UH, IT IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT IS NOW THE INDUSTRIAL, UH, LAND USE DESIGNATION IN THE, UH, LOCAL COASTAL PLAN LAND USE PLAN.
IT'S ALSO CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL PLAN AND THE, UH, THE REQUEST TO INSTALL THE PROPANE STORAGE TANK IS A PERMITTED USE WITH A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND A COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT IN THE MM OR MEDIUM MANUFACTURING ZONE.
UH, WITH REGARD TO THE, THE USE ITSELF, UH, WE ARE IN THE MIDST, AS YOU KNOW, OF UPDATING OUR LOCAL COASTAL PLAN THAT, UH, IS COMPRISED OF TWO PARTS.
ONE BEING THE LAND USE PLAN, WHICH GOVERNS THE, THE LAND USE, SIMILAR TO A GENERAL PLAN LAND USE MAP.
AND THEN THERE'S THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, WHICH IS THE ZONING, THE SPECIFIC ZONING, AS WELL AS ALL OF THE PROCESSES INVOLVED AND REGULATIONS RELATED TO APPLYING FOR A COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT.
EXCUSE ME, THIS IS BORING FOR ME TOO, TRUST ME.
UH, WITH REGARD TO THE LAND USE ITSELF IN OUR OLD LAND USE CODE, WHICH IS STILL APPLICABLE IN THIS AREA, UH, WE DID HAVE SPECIFIC USE GROUPS THAT TALKED ABOUT, UH, ENUMERATED ALL OF THE DIFFERENT USES THAT WE'VE HISTORICALLY HAD THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
BULK PROPANE STORAGE OR BULK GAS STORAGE WAS ONE OF THOSE.
AND WAS, UH, SPECIFICALLY REQUIRED IS NEEDING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
UH, AGAIN, WE ARE IN THE MIDST OF, ACTUALLY, WE'VE ALREADY UPDATED OUR LOCAL COASTAL PLAN AND WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH THE COASTAL COMMISSION ON UPDATING OUR IMPLEMENTATION
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PLAN, WHICH WE HOPE TO BRING FORWARD TO PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL, UH, THIS YEAR.UH, BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, THE THE PREVIOUS USES, WE WOULD GO TO THE OLD LAND USE CODE.
IT'S NOT SPECIFICALLY, UH, OUTLINED AS FAR AS, UH, BULK STORAGE OF GAS.
IT WOULD GENERALLY COME UNDER MEDIUM MANUFACTURING USES.
SO IT MAY NOT NECESSARILY NEED A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING.
SO IN THE WAY WE HAVE IT SET UP NOW, WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY OBVIOUSLY TO ENSURE THAT THERE ARE APPROPRIATE CONDITIONS AND ANALYSIS ON THE PROJECT.
UH, ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IS FIRE SAFETY AS PART OF THIS PROJECT.
AS WITH ALL OF OUR PROJECTS, WE ROUTE, UH, THE APPLICATION AND THE, THE APPLICATION MATERIALS TO ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENTS INCLUDED IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
WE GOT, UH, QUITE A FEW CONDITIONS AND COMMENTS BACK, ALL OF WHICH WERE, UH, INCLUDED AS CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL IN THE DRAFT CONDITIONS AND WHAT WAS APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
I THINK THERE ARE 43 CONDITIONS, SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES, UH, AND OTHER OPERATIONAL STANDARDS AS WELL.
SO OBVIOUSLY THAT INVOLVES STATE, UH, ANY FEDERAL, STATE OR OTHER, OTHER, UH, OTHER REGULATIONS AS WELL.
THERE IS NOT MUCH REALLY TO TALK ABOUT AS FAR AS DESIGN GUIDELINES.
IT ISN'T A TYPICAL OUTDOOR USE THAT WOULD BE, UH, IT MEETS ALL THE SETBACKS.
IT'S NOT HIGHER THAN IT NEEDS TO BE, AND IT IS OF COURSE SCREENED FROM THE, UH, FROM HALFWAY AVENUE BY A FENCE.
AS FAR AS THE COASTAL ZONE OVERLAY, THERE AREN'T REALLY ANY, ANY SERIOUS CONSIDERATIONS OTHER THAN, YOU KNOW, THE CUP DOES TRIGGER THAT IT IS AN AREA THAT IS OTHERWISE EXEMPT FROM A, A COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT.
THERE ARE NO ACCESS TO THE OCEAN NOR TO THE BAY ISSUES TO DEAL WITH.
THAT'S FAIRLY FAR FROM THE BAY ITSELF.
BUT THERE ARE TWO ADDITIONAL FINDINGS THAT ARE NEEDED.
ONE, UH, THAT IT'S CONSISTENT WITH ALL OTHER PLANS AND ORDINANCES OF THE CITY, WHICH I'VE ALREADY SPOKEN ABOUT.
AND TWO, IT WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE CERTIFIED LOCAL COASTER PROGRAM, WHICH IT IS.
UH, WE'VE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SAFETY, BUT AGAIN, BECAUSE OF THE USE AND THE PRESENCE OF HAZARDOUS MATERIALS, THERE WAS A PLAN SUBMITTED TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
THERE IS AN OPERATIONS PLAN THAT'S REQUIRED AN EMERGENCY, UH, EMERGENCY PLAN REQUIRED TO BE SUBMITTED TO THE CITY PRIOR TO OPERATION, UH, EMERGENCY DA, UH, DISASTER RESPONSE PLAN RATHER, AS WELL AS A COST RECOVERY PLAN ALSO INVOLVES TRAINING FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ON ANY SPECIFIC, UH, EQUIPMENT THAT THEY MAY HAVE.
AND OF COURSE, IT'S SUBJECT TO ANY OTHER PERMITS NECESSARILY, UH, NECESSARY FROM ANY OTHER JURISDICTIONS OR, OR REGULATING AGENCIES.
AS FAR AS TRAFFIC, WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT ONE TRUCK TRIP, ONE SEMI-TRUCK TRIP EVERY TWO WEEKS OR WHENEVER THE, UH, TANK NEEDS TO BE REFILLED.
SO IT'S NOT EXPECTED TO HAVE ANY, ANY MAJOR IMPACTS RELATED TO THAT, THIS SPECIFIC CONDITIONALLY ALLOWED USE.
AND OF COURSE THERE WOULD BE, UH, THERE IS A CONDITION REQUIRING SIGNAGE, ENSURING THAT ANY TRUCKS ENTERING AND EXITING THE SITE OR COMING TO AND FROM THE SITE, UH, USE ARE REGULATED OR ARE, UH, OUR TRUCK ROUTES THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
OUR APPROVED TRUCK ROUTES, UH, WITH REGARD TO THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT, UH, IN AND OF ITSELF IS, IS CONSIDERED A FAIRLY MINOR PROJECT IN THAT IT MAY HAVE BEEN INITIALLY LOOKED AT AS BEING, UH, POTENTIALLY AN EXEMPT PROJECT, BUT WHEN IT WAS ORIGINALLY SUBMITTED, THERE WAS ALSO ANOTHER COMPONENT, WHICH WAS A HYDROGEN FUELING STATION, WHICH HAS SINCE BEEN REMOVED FROM THE APPLICATION.
AND BECAUSE OF THAT, UH, AND THE COMBINATION OF THE TWO USES, WE, UH, DID WHAT'S CALLED AN INITIAL STUDY, WHICH LEADS TO EITHER A NEGATIVE DECLARATION, A MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION, OR IF THERE IS SOME SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS THAT CANNOT BE MITIGATED THAT WOULD TRIGGER AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT.
BUT IN THIS CASE, UH, WITH, UH, THE HYDROGEN FUELING STATION BEING REMOVED, WE ACTUALLY REDID THAT, UH, UH, THAT DOCUMENT, THAT INITIAL STUDY DOCUMENT.
AND BECAUSE IT WAS JUST THE BULK PROPANE AND THE LIMITED TRAFFIC AND SO FORTH, WE, UH, MADE A FINDING OF A, OF NEGATIVE DECLARATION, SO NO ENVIRONMENT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS, AND THAT WAS, UH, CERTIFIED OR AT LEAST, UH, APPROVED IN, IN, UH, AS PART OF THE PROJECT WITH OR BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
THERE IS, UH, SORRY, THERE ARE, THERE WERE COMMENTS RECEIVING RECEIVED, MAN, THERE ARE, THERE WERE COMMENTS RECEIVED REGARDING TRIBAL RESOURCES.
THERE IS A CONDITION, UH, REQUIRING THAT IF ANY GROUND DISTURBANCE ACTIVITIES, THERE IS MONITORING TO ENSURE THAT NO TRIBAL CULTURAL RESOURCES ARE DISTURBED.
SO STAFF, UH, RECOMMENDED CERTIFICATION OF THAT NEGATIVE DECLARATION TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND DOES THE SAME TO THE COUNCIL TONIGHT.
SO TO SUMMARIZE, THIS IS AN INDUSTRIAL USE IN A EXISTING INDUSTRIAL ZONE.
THE USE THAT'S THERE NOW IS ALLOWED BY WRIGHT.
THIS, UH, JUST THE BULK DISTRIBUTION OF PROPANE OR LPG WOULD REQUIRE THE, THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
WE FEEL THAT THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, ESPECIALLY ALL OF THE SAFETY ONES RELATED TO FIRE, ARE APPROPRIATE FOR OPERATION AND WILL ENSURE
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THAT IT OPERATES WITHOUT IMPACTING THE, THE, UH, COMMUNITY OR THE AREA NEARBY.AND ALL COMMENTS RECEIVED FROM ALL DEPARTMENTS, INCLUDING FIRE, ARE INCLUDED AS CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
SO THAT DOES CONCLUDE, UH, STAFF'S REPORT.
THE OPTIONS TONIGHT ARE EITHER TO CERTIFY THE NEGATIVE DECLARATION AND APPROVE THE PROJECT, UH, TO, TO, TO FIND THAT THE NEGATIVE DECLARATION HAS NOT BEEN COMPLETED AND PROCESSED APPROPRIATELY AND DENY THE PROJECT TO CONTINUE THAT FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AGAIN, RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.
STAFF CONTINUES TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND THEY ALSO HAVE A PRESENTATION AS WELL.
SO THAT, AGAIN, THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S REPORT.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, ANY, ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? YES.
UH, THE HYDROGEN REFUELING STATION, CAN YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT, UH, WHAT DROPPED THAT, THE HYDROGEN PART OF IT? UH, I, THAT MAY BE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT, BUT THERE WAS, UH, YOU KNOW, WE DID TRY TO INVOLVE THE PUBLIC AS MUCH AS WE COULD AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PROCESS.
AND I THINK WORD WAS OUT THAT THERE WAS GONNA BE, THAT THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS.
THERE WERE ALSO SOME SAFETY, UM, UH, ADDITIONAL SAFETY REQUIREMENTS THAT WOULD'VE BEEN, UH, THAT WOULD'VE BEEN NEEDED THAT MAY BE COMPLICATED.
THE PROJECT, I BELIEVE THERE MAY HAVE EVEN BEEN A GRANT INVOLVED AT ONE POINT THAT THAT FELL THROUGH FOR THE APPLICANT, BUT ULTIMATELY THEY DECIDED TO DROP IT AND JUST FOCUS ON THE HYDRO, ON THE, UH, LPG.
UH, MY QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW PERTAIN TO THE LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM.
UM, THAT WAS BRIEFLY, UM, MENTIONED IN THE REPORT, AND THEN I THINK THERE WAS ADDITIONAL DETAIL IN YOUR PRESENTATION JUST NOW.
UM, THE LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM, AND IT'S, UM, OFTEN REFERRED TO AS LCP THROUGHOUT THE PRESENTATION.
THAT IS, UM, THAT IS NATIONAL CITY'S PROGRAM, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.
THE CITY DID ADOPT ITS OWN LOCAL COASTAL PLAN IN THE EIGHTIES, AND IT IS BEING UPDATED AND PART OF THAT UPDATE, UH, INCLUDES HAVING IT GO THROUGH THE CALIFORNIA, THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA'S COASTAL COMMISSION.
UM, AND WE ARE IN THAT PROCESS.
AND I THINK I HEARD YOU SAY ALSO DURING MY BRIEFING YOU EXPLAINED TO ME IT'S A TWO PART, UM, OR IT'S, IT'S A TWO-PRONGED THING WHERE ONE IS UPDATING THE ZONE, THE THE LAND USE CODE, AND THE OTHER PIECE IS THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN.
AND WE HAVE COMPLETED THE UPDATE ON THE ZONE, THE, UM, THE LAND USE, LAND USE CODE.
SO THAT, THAT IS IN OUR BOOKS.
THE LAND USE PLAN IS YES, YES.
AND THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN THAT IS ONGOING, WE, WE ARE STILL COMPLETING THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN OF OUR LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM.
WE HAVE MADE UPDATES TO THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN INTERNALLY.
WE HAVE ROUTED THOSE TO THE COASTAL COMMISSION AND WE RECEIVED COMMENTS BACK FROM THE COASTAL COMMISSION LAST WEEK.
WE DO HAVE A GRANT FUNDED, UH, CONSULTANT WORKING ON THIS LCP UPDATE, AND THEY ARE IN POSSESSION OF THOSE COMMENTS.
AND WE ARE WORKING, GONNA BE WORKING TOGETHER IN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO TO ADDRESS THOSE COMMENTS.
ONCE WE'VE SORTED THAT, THAT OUT INTERNALLY, THEN THAT WOULD GO THROUGH THE CITY'S PROCESS OR THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR AN LCPA OR A LOCAL COASTAL PLAN AMENDMENT.
SIMILARLY, AS WE DID WITH THE LAND USE PLAN.
AND THAT WOULD, OF COURSE, COME TO COUNCIL.
ONCE THE CITY APPROVES THAT, THEN IT WOULD GO TO THE COASTAL COMMISSION, AND THEN THEY WOULD, UH, GO THROUGH THEIR HEARING PROCESS.
UM, AND THE TIMELINE FOR ALL OF THIS TO COME TO COMPLETION, WHAT WOULD YOU ESTIMATE IT TO BE? UH, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT WE'LL HAVE OUR WORK WRAPPED UP AND EVERYTHING TOO.
THE COASTAL COMMISSION, ASSUMING WE DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK AND FORTH TOO MANY MORE TIMES BY, PROBABLY BY SUMMERTIME WHEN, WHEN IT GETS ON A DOCKET IS ANYONE'S, UM, GUESS, BUT HOPEFULLY LATE THIS YEAR.
WELL, THAT'S A, UM, THAT'S A NICE GUESS.
WISHFUL THINKING I WOULD CALL IT.
I MEAN, WE JUST GOT DONE WITH COASTAL COMMISSION HEARINGS.
UM, WHO KNOWS HOW MANY, IT WAS NUMEROUS FOR THE, UM, WEST FOR THE, UM, BALANCE PLAN.
AND HOW LONG DID THAT TAKE, MAYOR? UH, I WON'T GET 11 YEARS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO I'M NOT SAYING THIS'LL TAKE A, WILL TAKE 11 YEARS, HOPEFULLY IT, IT WILL BE THROUGH, IT WILL BE DONE, YES.
SO, UH, I'M JUST TRYING TO ADD SOME CONTEXT INTO THE CURRENT, UM, STATUS OF, UH, HERE IN NATIONAL CITY OF OUR LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM.
THE REASON I'M ASKING THESE QUESTIONS IS BECAUSE WE DID HAVE A VERY DETAILED COMMENT FROM ONE OF THE RESIDENTS IN DISTRICT ONE.
UM, AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE, UM, UP TO SPEED WITH THE, UM, CURRENT STATUS OF THE EFFORTS THAT WE'RE UNDERGOING.
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UM, ONE MORE QUESTION.THE, UM, THIS PROJECT, THIS PROPOSED PROJECT IS INDUSTRIAL USE AT AN EXISTING INDUSTRIAL SITE.
UM, THE LAND USE CODE DESIGNATION FOR THIS SITE, DOES THAT CHANGE UPON COMPLETION OF THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN? UH, THE SHORT ANSWER IS, THE SHORT ANSWER IS NO, NOT REALLY.
UH, IT'S GOING FROM, UH, WHAT'S CURRENTLY MM, WHICH IS MEDIUM MANUFACTURING TO WHAT'S CALLED IM, WHICH IS MEDIUM INDUSTRIAL.
IT'S ESSENTIALLY EXACTLY THE SAME ZONE.
ALL THE LAND USES ARE GENERALLY THE SAME.
UH, IT'S, IT'S THE SAME ZONE, SAME AREA.
IT'S JUST, IT'S GOT A DIFFERENT, UH, UH, DIFFERENT NAME, BUT IT'S STILL MEETING INDUSTRIAL.
AND, UM, AND I, I KNOW DURING MY BRIEFING YOU DID MENTION THAT WHEN WE DO COMPLETE THE IMPLEMENTATION OF OUR LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM, UM, ACTUALLY THE, THIS TYPE OF PROJECT WOULD BE, UH, WOULDN'T GET THE CONSIDERATION, THE ANALYSIS, THE SCRUTINY THAT IT'S GETTING TODAY BECAUSE, UM, THIS TYPE OF PROJECT WOULD BE PERHAPS A LITTLE BIT MORE, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE FACILITATED A LITTLE BIT MORE BY THE UPDATED PLAN.
SO WHEN WE DID THE LAND USE UPDATE IN 2011, WE UPDATED OUR LAND USE CODE.
WE UPDATED OUR, UH, OUR ZONING MAP.
OUR GENERAL PLAN, UH, BASICALLY BEEN IN PLACE IN SOME FORM OR ANOTHER SINCE 1976, OR AT LEAST THE LAND USE CODE WAS THE INTENTION BEHIND CHANGING THE, UH, UPDATING ALL OF THE ZONES.
AND THE ALLOWED USES WAS TO STREAMLINE THE PROCESS.
THERE WAS STILL USES THAT WERE CALLED OUT FOR AS NEEDING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, FOR EXAMPLE, OR A MINOR USE PERMIT OR ALLOWED BY WRIGHT.
BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE THE EXHAUSTIVE TABLES.
I MEAN, THE OLD LAND USE CODE HAD 35 LAND USE GROUPS OR USE GROUPS IN IT WITH ALL KINDS OF HISTORIC USES THAT WE'D ADDED TO OVER THE YEARS YEARS, WHICH WAS FAIRLY USEFUL.
BUT IT WAS SEEN AS BEING A BIT, SORT OF PUTTING, PUTTING THINGS IN A BIT OF A PIGEONHOLE.
SO THE INTENTION I RECALL AT THE TIME WAS TO KIND OF MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER.
SO WHEN IT COMES TO THAT LAND USE CODE, WHICH WE STILL HAVE IN A, YOU KNOW, SLIGHTLY UPDATED FORMAT, OBVIOUSLY NOW IN 2026 DOES NOT, THERE IS A, A, UH, GLOSSARY, THERE IS A GLOSSARY DEFINITION FOR BULK HAZARDOUS MATERIALS IN WHICH WOULD INCLUDE GAS.
HOWEVER, THERE'S NO SPECIFIC REFERENCE OTHER THAN THAT IN THE CODE, WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE BEEN AN OVERSIGHT.
I COULDN'T SAY IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE WE DID THAT CODE.
BUT UPON MY RESEARCH TODAY, IT WOULD SEEM THAT IF, IF THIS APPLICATION CAME IN TODAY, IT WOULD NOT REQUIRE A, NECESSARILY REQUIRE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, WHICH WOULD MEAN THAT WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, ANALYZE IT AS MUCH AT A DISCRETIONARY LEVEL.
OF COURSE, IT WOULD ANYTHING REQUIRING A BUILDING PERMIT STILL GOES THROUGH BUILDING AND FIRE CODE REVIEW AND WOULD STILL HOPEFULLY HAVE THE SAME CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, BUT IT WOULDN'T HAVE INVOLVED THE SAME PUBLIC PROCESS.
SO, BUT BECAUSE THIS WAS SUBMITTED PRIOR TO, YOU KNOW, THE CODE IN EFFECT AT THE TIME, WHICH IS, UH, ON THE WEST SIDE, AGAIN, IS OUR PREVIOUS LAND USE CODE.
THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT.
UM, TO SUMMARIZE ALL OF THAT, I THINK, UM, UH, IF WE WERE TO, LET'S SAY IF I WAS TO REQUEST, YOU KNOW, WEST AIR TO PUT THIS PROJECT ON HOLD UNTIL WE COMPLETE OUR LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM IMPLEMENTATION AND HAVE ALL OF THAT, YOU KNOW, ALL THE, UH, I'S DOTTED THE T'S CROSSED AND, AND, YOU KNOW, COASTAL COMMISSION IS HAPPY WITH US, UM, BY, IF THIS AND THEN WEST AIR THEN SUBMITS TO HAVE THIS PROJECT IN PLACE, IN FACT, WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T EVEN BE REQUIRING, UH, TO CONSIDER A, UM, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
IT IT MAY BE MOOT AT THAT POINT.
BUT IT WOULD, YEAH, BUT THAT WOULD ALSO CALL IN, INTO QUESTION PERMIT STREAMLINING IN THE MEANTIME,
UH, WHICH IS NOT SOMETHING I'M PROPOSING.
I'M JUST, UM, TRYING TO MAKE IT CLEAR TO THE PUBLIC THAT, UM, PERHAPS IT SEEMS LIKE WE ARE, UM, NOT TAKING A CAREFUL LOOK AT THIS PROJECT BECAUSE WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF IMPLEMENTING OUR LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM.
AND PERHAPS ANY PROJECT THAT WOULD BE, UH, AFFECTED BY THE LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM SHOULD BE, UM, CONSIDERED ONCE THAT WHOLE IMPLEMENTATION IS COMPLETED.
UM, AND I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE THE ARGUMENT THAT ACTUALLY IT'S PROBABLY BETTER TO CONSIDER IT NOW BECAUSE WE HAVE GREATER ABILITY TO SCRUTINIZE AND ANALYZE IT THROUGH THE, UM, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT PROCESS AND PUT CONDITIONS ON IT BECAUSE, AND PUT CONDITIONS ON IT, BECAUSE UPON COMPLETION OF THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, UM, LIKELY IT WOULDN'T REQUIRE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
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LONG-WINDED SUMMARYUM, WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE JUST ON THAT TOPIC, MR. MARTIN? NO, I DON'T BELIEVE SO.
I MEAN, TO BE FAIR, WE'VE UNFORTUNATELY BEEN WORKING ON THIS LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM UPDATE FOR SOME TIME BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S TAKEN FUNDING THAT'S BEEN REQUIRED.
AND OF COURSE IT TAKES A LONG TIME TO GET THROUGH THE COASTAL COMMISSION.
BUT, UH, YEAH, WE FEEL THIS IS A, A NORMAL PROCESS.
UM, AND I, I DO WANT TO, UM, JUST, UH, OFFER MY THANKS, MY GRATITUDE TO OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT.
WE HAD AN EXCELLENT TOWN HALL DISCUSSION LAST TUESDAY WHERE, UM, CHIEF MORA AND BATTALION CHIEF, UH, BRIAN KREPPS AND, UM, UH, CAPTAIN DAY OR BATTALION CHIEF DAY, UH, ATTENDED.
AND, UM, ALSO WERE VERY WILLING TO ANSWER QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC.
SO, UM, I'M VERY HAPPY ABOUT THAT.
I THINK HOPEFULLY WE DO GET INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE SAFETY ASPECT OF THIS, BUT I DO WANNA GIVE TIME TO MY COLLEAGUES TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS SPECIFIC PRESENTATION AND THEN ALSO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT.
UM, THANK YOU STAFF FOR THE PRESENTATION AND, UH, DILIGENT ANALYSIS.
I JUST HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS, UH, REGARDING THE PROJECT, IF IT'S ALLOWED BY RIGHT ON THE MEDIA MANUFACTURING ZONE, WHY IS IT, WHY IS IT COMING TO COUNCIL? UH, THE CODE IN PLACE CURRENTLY IS, DOES REQUIRE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ONCE THE LCP IMPLEMENTATION PLAN IS UPDATED, MAYBE LATER THIS YEAR AND COMES INTO EFFECT, THEN IT, IT WOULD LIKELY NOT BE REQUIRED.
UH, WE, WE HAVE DONE SOME RESEARCH INTO THE, OR I DID SOME RESEARCH INTO THE CODE TODAY, AND I, AGAIN, I MENTIONED THERE WAS A GLOSSARY TERM FOR BULK HYDROGEN OR BULK, UH, HAZARDOUS GASES OR HAZARDOUS MATERIALS, WHICH LEADS ME TO BELIEVE THAT THE INTENT WAS TO LEAVE THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IN THE CODE.
IT DIDN'T MAKE IT INTO THE CODE FOR WHATEVER REASON.
I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT NECESSARILY, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT MEETS, THIS TYPE OF USE DOES MEET THE GENERAL, UH, DEFINITION OF MEDIA MANUFACTURING USES IN THE CODE.
THAT'S WHERE I'M, I'M MAKING, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS CURRENTLY A PRESUMPTION THAT IT WOULD NOT NEED A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
IT'S NOT SPECIFICALLY OUTLINED AS NEEDING A CUP IN THE, IN THE CODE.
SO BECAUSE THEY APPLIED LATE LAST YEAR, THAT CODE WAS IN PLACE REQUIRING A CUP.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
UM, AND WHEN IT COMES TO THE SAFETY OF THE FACILITY, UH, IT DOES MENTION THAT INDIVIDUALS HAVE TO RECEIVE TRAINING.
UM, WHAT KIND OF TRAINING IS IT AND IS THERE A THIRD PARTY VENDOR THAT DOES THE TRAINING? IS THERE OTHER AGENCY OVERSIGHTS FOR THE TRAININGS? UH, WELL, I'LL LET THE APPLICANT SPEAK TO IT MORE DETAIL, IN MORE DETAIL, BUT YES, THEY HAVE, THEY'RE ALL TRAINED PROFESSIONALS CURRENTLY.
'CAUSE THEY CURRENTLY DEAL WITH, WITH COMPRESSED GASES OF ALL TYPES.
SO THEY ARE, WELL, WELL VERSED IN THE PRODUCTS THAT THEY CARRY, HOW THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE STORED, HOW THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DISPENSED.
AND WITH REGARD TO OTHER, UH, REGULATING AGENCIES, THERE ARE A LOT, I MEAN, THERE'S DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY LOCAL WITH OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, UH, REGIONAL STATE, AND LIKELY FEDERAL TOO, ESPECIALLY WITH TRANSPORTATION.
SO THOSE ARE ALL PART OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING ALREADY.
UH, THE REASON FOR TODAY'S HEARING IS SPECIFICALLY TO DO WITH THE BULK STORAGE.
IT'S REQUIRED BY OUR CODE TO HAVE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, BUT ALL OF THOSE THINGS WOULD CONTINUE TO APPLY.
AND THEN WHEN IT COMES TO THE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE TRANSPORTING THE, UM, UH, THE PROPANE FROM THE TANKS OVER TO THE FACILITY ITSELF, HOW MANY EMPLOYEES TYPICALLY DO THAT WORK AND WHAT KIND OF TRAINING DO THEY HAVE? UH, I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION, BUT AGAIN, THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD QUESTION FOR THEM TO ANSWER.
I GUESS WE COULD DO IT AT THE LATTER.
ARE THEY GONNA PROVIDE A PRESENTATION THEMSELVES OR THEY DO HAVE A SHORT PRESENTATION? YES, THEY DO HAVE.
UM, AND, UH, MAYBE THERE'S ANOTHER QUESTION FOR THEM, BUT THE SAFETY RECORD OF THE COMPANY IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW, SO IT'S SOMETHING I'M INTERESTED IN, UM, ASKING THEM.
UH, IT IS MENTIONED IN THE PRESENTATION, THE TRIBAL CULTURAL RESOURCES.
WHAT DOES THAT ALLUDE TO? I'M SORRY, WHAT IS THAT? TRIBAL CULTURAL RESOURCES? CORRECT.
YOU KNOW, IT'S, UH, ANYTHING THAT'S DISCRETIONARY, UH, THAT'S IN THE COASTAL DEVELOPMENT OR COASTAL ZONE, ESPECIALLY AS PART OF OUR ROUTING.
WE DO, UH, WE DO ROUTE TO THE TRIBES, THE TRIBAL AGENCY THAT REACHES OUT TO ALL THE TRIBES.
AND WE USUALLY HEAR BACK FROM ONE OR TWO OF THEM.
AND THEIR MAIN CONCERN IS THAT IF THERE IS ANY GROUND DISTURBANCE ACTIVITY, THAT THERE BE A MONITOR ON SITE OR SOMEONE TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE NO, UH, DISTURBANCES.
AND WHEN WE'RE DEALING WITH, YOU KNOW, COASTAL AREAS, FILL AREAS,
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RIVERINE AREAS, ET CETERA, THERE IS A MORE, A GREATER LIKELIHOOD OF THAT HAPPENING.WE DON'T GET TOO MUCH OF THAT HERE.
UH, WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY FINES IN, WITHIN A MILE AND A HALF OF, OF THE CITY IN SOME TIME.
BUT THE AREA IN GENERAL, WHAT, UH, DOES HAVE SOME OF THAT.
SO WE, ANY OPPORTUNITY WE GET, WE PUT IN A CONDITION REQUIRING, UH, FOR ANY DISCRETIONARY PERMIT, REQUIRING GRADING TO HAVE THE TRIBAL RESOURCE MONITOR ON SITE AT THAT TIME.
AND JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY, HOW DID THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTE ON THIS, UM, PROJECT? THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID VOTE TO APPROVE THIS PROJECT.
IS IT A UNANIMOUS VOTE? NO, I DON'T THINK SO.
UH, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY DISCLOSURES TO BE MADE AS FAR AS CONTACT DISCLOSURES? ANYTHING? OKAY.
WE WILL, AT THAT POINT, WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I GONNA GET THE PRESENTATION FROM, WELL, THAT, THAT'S THE ONE WE'RE GONNA BRING FORWARD.
SO FIRST, LIKE, BRING THE APPLICANT FORWARD.
I WASN'T TOO SURE WHO IN THE AUDIENCE WAS THE APPLICANT, BUT NOW I THINK I KNOW
UM, I HAVE KEITH MARTINEZ, OUR DIRECTOR OF SAFETY AS WELL, AND SHEILA IS HERE TO HELP US WITH OUR PRESENTATIONS.
YOU, YOU, YOU WANNA TALK INTO THE MIC? THE, THE MIC THAT'S GOT THE RED LIGHT ON IT.
I'M A PRINCIPAL ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH AND SAFETY CONSULTANT.
I'M A PRINCIPAL ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH AND SAFETY CONSULTANT WITH BSI.
UM, I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH WEST AIR ON, UH, ASSISTING WITH THIS, UH, UH, TANK INSTALLATION PROJECT.
AND, UH, WE HAVE, UH, A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND INFORMATION HERE ON, ON THE FIRST SLIDE.
I'M GONNA RUN THROUGH REALLY QUICK.
UM, WEST AIR HAS BEEN IN THE SAN DIEGO AREA SINCE, SINCE, UM, 1970.
UH, THEY, UH, PROVIDE PROPANE IN, UM, SMALLER CYLINDERS FOR INDUSTRIAL AND CONSUMER USE.
THE PROJECT IS, UH, UH, AS, AS WAS MENTIONED BEFORE, IT'S ON 2100 HALF AVENUE.
AND THE, UH, PROJECT INVOLVES THE INSTALLATION OF A 30,000 GALLON ABOVE GROUND PROPANE STORAGE VESSEL.
UH, THE PROPANE IN FROM THE BULK STORAGE VESSEL WILL BE TRANSFERRED INTO SMALLER CYLINDERS.
LIKE WE MENTIONED BEFORE, UM, THE, THE PROPOSED VESSEL WAS MANUFACTURED FROM, FROM CARBON STEEL, AND IT MEETS ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CODE REQUIREMENTS FOR NFPA 58, WHICH IS THE LPG GAS CODE.
UM, BOTH OSHA AND CAL OSHA LPG REGULATIONS ARE ALSO INCLUDED.
UM, THIS IS JUST A, A DUPLICATE OF, OF THE DIAGRAM THAT WAS SHOWN EARLIER.
THIS IS JUST A, A EXAMPLE OF WHAT THE, THE SYSTEM WILL LOOK LIKE.
UM, THERE AT THE TOP, THAT'S THE ACTUAL TANK.
AND THEN THE, THE ADDITIONAL, UM, UH, PIPING TO THE RIGHT IS THE AUTOMATED, UM, OR SEMI AUTOMATED, UH, CYLINDER, UH, FILLING SYSTEM.
THIS HAD COME UP, UM, IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.
SOME OF THE COMMISSION WERE, UH, MENTIONING THAT THEY WEREN'T SURE EXACTLY WHERE ON THE SITE THE, THE TANK WAS GONNA BE LOCATED.
SO, UM, THAT'S WHY I PUT TOGETHER THIS, THIS DRAWING.
THESE, UH, LOCATIONS ARE APPROXIMATE, OBVIOUSLY, BUT, UM, THE, THE TANK IS THERE IN BLUE.
AND THEN THOSE RED TRIANGLES THAT YOU SEE, THOSE ARE THE, UH, THE LOCATIONS OF THE, UM, EMERGENCY SHUTOFFS.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE ARE FOUR.
THERE ARE TWO ON THE TANK, ONE ON THE, THE FILLING SYSTEM, AND THEN ANOTHER ONE, UM, ON RIGHT OUTSIDE THE BUILDING, UM, WHICH CAN BE, UM, UH, HIT REMOTELY.
UM, THIS IS THE, THE SITE FROM ANOTHER ANGLE.
UM, THOSE YELLOW DOTS THAT YOU SEE, THOSE INDICATE, UH, BOLLARDS,
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CONCRETE BOLLARDS, WHICH WOULD, THEY'RE GONNA BE INSTALLED AROUND THE TANK TO PROTECT THE TANK FROM ANY VEHICULAR IMPACT.AND THEN THE, THE RED ARROW OVER THERE COMING IN OFF OF HALFWAY, THAT'S THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF, OF WHERE THE, UM, THE DELIVERY TRUCK WOULD, WOULD BE KEPT.
AND SPEAKING OF DELIVERY TRUCKS, JUST FYI, UH, THE DELIVERIES WILL BE MADE, UH, VIA BOBTAIL TRUCK.
AND THIS ISN'T THE EXACT TRUCK, BUT THIS IS A REPRESENTATIVE OF, OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT A BOBTAIL TRUCK LOOKS LIKE IN CASE YOU'RE UNFAMILIAR.
AND, UH, THE, THE DELIVERIES WILL BE MADE APPROXIMATELY ONCE EVERY TWO WEEKS.
NOW, FOR THE SAFETY FEATURES OF, OF THE LPG TANK, WE'VE GOT, THIS IS, UM, JUST A REPRESENTATIVE.
WE'VE GOT PRESSURE RELIEF VALVES.
UH, PRESSURE RELIEF VALVES ARE DESIGNED TO VENT EXCESS PRESSURE TO PREVENT TANK RUPTURE.
WE'VE GOT, UH, EXCESS FLOW VALVES FOR, FOR WHEN THE, THE FUEL IS BEING TRANSFERRED FROM THE, THE, UM, THE TRUCK TO THE TANK.
UM, WE'VE GOT EMERGENCY SHUTOFFS LEVEL GAUGES THAT INDICATE THE AMOUNT OF LPG THAT IS PRESENT IN THE TANK.
UM, ADDITIONALLY, WEST AIR HAS THEIR OWN WRITTEN OPERATING PROCEDURES FOR TRANSFERS THAT THEY ALL HAVE TO FOLLOW.
UM, THESE PROCEDURES WILL BE UPDATED WITH ADDITIONAL SPECIFIC INFORMATION AFTER THE EQUIPMENT IS INSTALLED TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE, WE'RE, UM, INCLUDING EVERYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE INCLUDED.
THE SEPARATION DISTANCES, UH, WERE MENTIONED BEFORE.
THE FIRE CODE SPECIFIES THE MINIMUM DISTANCE THAT YOU CAN HAVE BETWEEN A TANK AND BUILDINGS, OR PROPERTY LINES, OR EVEN OTHER LPG CONTAINERS.
AND THE, UH, OPERATOR TRAINING WAS, WAS QUESTIONED, UH, THAT CAME UP BEFORE ALL OF THE WESTER OPERATORS WILL RECEIVE INITIAL AND, UH, ONGOING SAFETY TRAINING.
THE INITIAL TRAINING IS, UM, TYPICALLY A CLASSROOM COMPUTER-BASED TRAINING WITH A COMBINATION OF THAT AND, UH, JOB SITE OBSERVATION, WHICH IS MORE HANDS ON.
UM, SO YOU'VE, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT THE INFORMATION THAT YOU'VE LEARNED IN, IN THE CLASSROOM, AND THEN YOU TAKE IT OUT AND ACTUALLY DEMONSTRATE, UM, YOUR, YOUR ACTUAL, UH, ABILITY TO DO THE, THE TASK SAFELY.
THE NEAREST FIRE STATION IS ON THIS MAP, YOU CAN SEE IT'S AT NATIONAL CITY FIRE DEPARTMENT STATION 34.
AND THIS IS A, JUST KIND OF A FYI ON, ON LPG OR PROPANE.
UM, FROM THE NATIONAL PROPANE GAS ASSOCIATION, THEY ESTIMATE THAT THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 10,000, UM, LPG FACILITIES THAT HAVE STORAGE TANKS WITH, UH, AT LEAST 18,000.
SO BETWEEN 18,000 AND TO 30,000 GALLONS OF, OF LPG IN THE US THERE'S NO, UH, PUBLIC DATABASE THAT IN CALIFORNIA THAT LISTS THE EQUIVALENT INFORMATION.
HOWEVER, UH, WEST AIR CURRENTLY OPERATES TWO OTHER FACILITIES THAT DO HAVE 30,000 GALLON LPG TANKS.
ONE OF THOSE IS IN OCEANSIDE, AND THE OTHER ONE IS IN GARDEN GROVE.
AND THERE ARE ALSO SEVERAL OTHER LPG TANK FACILITIES ARE IN THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY AREA, INCLUDING, UH, FERAL GAS, AIR GAS, AND AMERIGAS.
JUST TO NAME THE, SOME OF THE STATE'S REGULATORY AGENCIES THAT WILL BE INVOLVED IN THE, IN THIS PROJECT WOULD BE CAL OSHA, CAL FIRE, AND THE LOCAL, UH, CERTIFIED UNIFIED PROGRAM AGENCIES, ALSO KNOWN AS, UH, COUPA.
THEY WILL ALL BE INVOLVED IN THE TRACKING AND INSPECTING OF THESE TANKS.
UM, GET GETTING MORE IN DEPTH ON THE REGULATORY OVERSIGHT ISSUE.
UM, THE COUPA FOR THE WEST AIR NATIONAL CITY FACILITY IS THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH HAZMAT DIVISION.
THEY WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE HAZARDOUS MATERIALS BUSINESS PLAN.
THEY WILL ALSO BE, UH, DOING, UH, FACILITY INSPECTIONS THAT FOCUS PRIMARILY ON, ON HAZARDOUS MATERIAL STORAGE AND, UM, RECORD KEEPING AND DOCUMENTATION.
SO THEY WOULD BE LOOKING AT THE, UH, PROCEDURES AND THE TRAINING AND THE TRAINING RECORDS TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE OPERATORS HAVE UP TO DATE TRAINING.
THE NATIONAL CITY FIRE DEPARTMENT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR PLAN REVIEW AND PERMITTING.
THEY ALSO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR FACILITY INSPECTIONS.
THOSE INSPECTIONS TYPICALLY FOCUS MORE ON THE, THE EQUIPMENT AND OPERATIONS, AND OBVIOUSLY THEY WILL BE THE EMERGENCY
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RESPONSE.UH, WEST AIR WILL PREPARE AND SUBMIT A HAZARDOUS MATERIALS BUSINESS PLAN PRIOR TO THE TANK INSTALLATION, UM, THAT'S REQUIRED.
AND THE NATIONAL CITY FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS ALREADY REVIEWED AND, AND APPROVED, UH, THE PERMIT THAT, TO SUM UP THE SAFETY FEATURES, WE'VE GOT OUR DESIGN STANDARDS, AND THOSE INCLUDE THE, UH, NFPA 58 CAL FIRE CODE, FED AND CAL OSHA RULES, AND OUR COUNTY AND LOCAL REQUIREMENTS.
AND THEN WE'VE GOT THE, UH, BUILT-IN SAFETY LAYERS, WHICH INCLUDE THE PRESSURE RELIEF VALVES, EXCESS FLOW VALVES, SHUTOFFS, UH, SEPARATION DISTANCES, UH, THE ODOR WITH THE MER CAPTAIN TO, UH, BE DETECTABLE TO HUMANS.
UM, UH, IN THE EVENT OF A LEAK, WE'VE GOT IGNITION CONTROL AND AGAIN, THE OPERATOR TRAINING.
UM, OUR EMERGENCY RESPONSE, UH, THE FIRE STATION AGAIN, IS, IS ABOUT A MILE AWAY.
THERE ARE ALSO SEVERAL MORE FIRE STATIONS WITHIN ABOUT FIVE MILES, AND THERE WILL BE PRE-PLANNING WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
THERE WILL BE, UH, SHUT, UH, SITE ACCESS SHUT OFF AND ISOLATION STEPS AND EVACUATION SHELTER DECISIONS PLANNED OUT WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
UM, ADDITIONALLY, WEST AIR SAFETY RECORD, THEY, AGAIN, HAVE BEEN IN THE SAN DIEGO AREA SINCE 1970.
UM, THEY HAVE TRAINED PERSONNEL, THEY HAVE DOCUMENTED INSPECTIONS, THEY'VE GOT MAINTENANCE LOGS AND EMERGENCY DRILLS, AND THEY'RE COMMUNITY COMMITMENT.
UM, THEY ARE COMMITTED TO OBVIOUSLY THE ANNUAL FIRE DEPARTMENT WALKTHROUGHS, UM, HAVING UPDATED EMERGENCY CONTACT SHEETS AVAILABLE, A COMPLAINT LINE, UM, SIGNAGE ACCESS CONTROL, UH, AVAILABLE AND VISIBLE FROM, FROM THE, THE STREET.
AND WESTER HAS BEEN IN NASHVILLE CITY SINCE 2007, AND THEY ARE COMMITTED TO THE COMMUNITY.
UM, ARE WE, OKAY, SO REAL QUICK, I WANTED TO ADDRESS THE PUBLIC COMMENT THAT WAS RECEIVED, UM, FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.
UH, THERE, THERE WE RECEIVED A COMMENT CONCERNING THE POTENTIAL RISK ASSOCIATED WITH, IT'S CALLED A BOILING LIQUID, EXPANDING VAPOR INCIDENT, OR A B LEVY.
AND B LEVY INCIDENTS ARE THE RESULT OF A, A, A CATASTROPHIC TANK FAILURE THAT IS TYPICALLY CAUSED BY A COMBINATION OF FIRE AND OVER PRESSURIZATION OF A TANK.
UM, IT'S NOT ALWAYS FIRE, BUT THAT'S IT.
UM, THE PROPOSED TANK WAS DESIGNED AND MANUFACTURED SPECIFICALLY TO PREVENT BLE ACT INCIDENTS.
THE DESIGN FEATURES INCLUDE THE REINFORCED STEEL, THE VALVES, THE SHUTOFFS, AND UM, ADDITIONALLY LIKE PROTECTIVE COATING, UM, THE TANK AND ASSOCIATED PIPING WILL BE PROTECTED FROM VEHICLE IMPACT BY THE CONCRETE BOLLARDS.
UM, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT IS WITHIN THE, UH, 1.3 MILES, WE'VE GOT THE, UM, THE MAIN NATIONAL CITY FIRE STATION THAT I MENTIONED BEFORE.
WE'VE GOT TWO OTHER, UH, NATIONAL CITY FIRE STATIONS, AND THEN WE'VE GOT A COUNTY, THE SAN DIEGO, AND THEN ALSO, UH, CHULA VISTA ALL WITHIN THREE MILES.
AND, UH, COORDINATION WITH FIRST RESPONDERS IS, IS REQUIRED ACTUALLY AS PART OF THE HAZARDOUS MATERIALS BUSINESS PLAN, UM, SUBMISSION PROCESS TO THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO.
COUPA IN TO CONCLUDE THAT WEST AIR RECOGNIZES THE HAZARDS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH, WITH, UH, LPG FLAMMABLE GAS, AND THEY HAVE ESTABLISHED SAFETY FEATURES TO, OR SAFETY PROCEDURES, SORRY TO MINIMIZE THE RISKS TO THE PUBLIC, OUR EMPLOYEES AND OUR FIRST RESPONDERS.
AND WEST AIR TAKES SAFETY VERY SERIOUSLY AND HAS NOT HAD ANY INCIDENTS RESULTING IN FIRES OR EXPLOSIONS.
THE TANK INSTALLATION IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CALIFORNIA FIRE CODE NFPA 58 AND THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY MUNICIPAL CODE.
THE PLANS HAVE BEEN REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY THE NATIONAL CITY FIRE DEPARTMENT, AND WE THINK APPROVAL OF THIS PROJECT IS APPROPRIATE BECAUSE THE WORK IS REGULATED ENGINEERED WITH MULTIPLE SAFEGUARDS AND SUPPORTED BY EMERGENCY RESPONSE PLANNING.
ANY QUESTION OF THE APPLICANT QUESTIONS? YEAH.
THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
THANK YOU FOR COMING TONIGHT AND, UM, UH, GIVING US THIS PRESENTATION.
UM, IT IS FOCUSED ON THE SAFETY ASPECTS OF THIS, AND I'M VERY HAPPY TO HEAR THAT BECAUSE, UM, THAT WAS THE MAJORITY OF THE COMMENTS THAT I RECEIVED.
AND, AND I AM THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR DISTRICT ONE, WHICH
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IS THE LOCATION WHERE THIS, UM, FACILITY IS.UM, AND SO THE MAJORITY OF THE, ACTUALLY ALL OF THE COMMENTS I RECEIVED FROM THE PUBLIC PERTAINING TO THIS PROJECT HAD TO DO WITH SAFETY CONCERNS.
SO I, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
YOUR PRESENTATION IS HEAVY ON ASSURING THE, UH, MITIGATION PLAN, YOU KNOW, THE, THE SAFETY, UH, RECORD FOR WEST AIR.
CAN I ASK YOU ABOUT THE SIZE OF THE, THE VOLUME THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING, 30,000 GALLONS? UM, AND I UNDERSTOOD FROM YOUR PRESENTATION, THERE ARE OTHER STORAGE TANKS ANYWHERE FROM 18,000 GALLONS TO 30,000 GALLONS.
CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHY THE VOLUME THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING, 30,000? UH, IS THERE ROOM FOR THERE TO BE A SMALLER VOLUME OR A SMALLER TANK INSTALLED? UM, SO BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, THE, THE SIZE OF THE TANK IS, IS BASED, WAS BASED ON, YOU KNOW, THE AMOUNT OF CUSTOMERS AND BUSINESS WE'RE DOING TODAY, AND WHAT WE EXPECT TO DO IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
YOU KNOW, WE DO DO A LOT OF BUSINESS WITH NASHVILLE CITY, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF BUSINESSES, NASCO, UM, EPSILON, YOU KNOW, A LOT, A LOT OF THE BUSINESSES LOCALLY, A LOT OF THE RESTAURANTS WE PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, TANKS FOR THEM, YOU KNOW, AS THEIR BUSINESS GROWS, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT OBVIOUSLY, UH, GIVES US REASON TO INCREASE OUR VOLUME TO SUPPORT THEIR BUSINESSES AS WELL.
UM, CAN I JUST PIGGYBACK ON THAT ONE? DO YOU FILL THE 30,000 GALLON TANK TO 30,000 GALLON? DO YOU COMPLETELY FILL IT? THAT'S SO, SO, SO WHAT IS NORMALLY THE TOP CAPACITY, THE TOP AMOUNT THAT YOU FILL A 30,000 GALLON? BECAUSE I KNOW YOU WANT ALLOW FOR EXPANSION AND SUCH.
UH, TYPICALLY VESSELS ARE FILLED AT 80%.
SO YOU, YOU WON'T, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE, OBVIOUSLY 30,000.
SO MOST, MOST VESSELS ARE 80, 80 80.
SO THE CAPACITY OF THE TANK IS 30,000 GALLONS, BUT IT IS FILLED TO 80% CAPACITY.
UH, THAT IS CORRECT BECAUSE IT, UH, BECAUSE THE TANK IS, IS DESIGNED, UH, WHERE YOU HAVE TO HAVE, UH, A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF HEAD PRESSURE, UH, TO SUPPORT, UH, THE, THE, UH, SAFEWAY.
SO IT'S, IT'S WHAT, IT'S OKAY.
AND, AND YOU MENTIONED, UM, THE NEED TO FULFILL THE, THE, THE CUSTOMERS THAT NEED TO USE LIQUID PROPANE, UH, GAS.
RIGHT? UM, I'M THINKING OF RV HOMES LIKE, UH, YOU KNOW, RV RVS THAT, THAT NEED TO HAVE, UH, THAT NEED TO BE POWERED THROUGH, UH, LPG.
UM, IS THAT SORT OF THE CUSTOMER THAT YOU'RE ENVISIONING THAT WOULD COME HERE? NO, MA'AM.
WE'RE, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE FILLING ANY TYPE OF, UH, UM, UH, PORTABLE, UH, TRAILER OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
WE UNDERSTAND, UH, THERE'S SOME RISK INVOLVED IN THAT.
AND WE, WE, UH, THAT AT THE OTHER LOCATIONS AS WELL.
SO, SO WHO IS THE CUSTOMER THAT WILL COME AND FILL THEIR FIVE AND 20 GALLON TANKS? ALL, ALL OF OUR CUSTOMERS ARE EXCHANGE BASES.
SO THEY DON'T COME UP AND SAY, HEY, FILL MY TANK.
YOU KNOW, THEY'LL COME WITH AN EMPTY TANK AND WE'LL JUST EXCHANGE IT.
I SEE STORAGE, JUST LIKE THIS STORAGE TANK.
YOU GO TO A HOME DEPOT OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, YOU BRING YOUR TANK IN.
SO THIS STORAGE TANK IS GONNA HOLD THIS VOLUME, AND WEST AIR WILL BE, UM, UH, DELIVERING IT INTO THE SMALLER CONTAINERS.
AND A CUSTOMER THAT NEEDS LIQUID, UM, PROPANE GAS WILL COME AND TAKE THE CONTAINER WITH THEM.
THIS, OR EXCHANGE THE CONTAINERS? YEAH, THEY WILL EXCHANGE IT AT THE STORE.
UM, NOT AT THE, NOT THIS LOCATION SITE? NO.
WELL, WE HAVE A STORE IN THAT LOCATION.
YEAH, THEY WON'T PULL UP TO THE TANK AND, AND THEN WE WON'T FILL THAT LIKE A GAS STATION
PARDON? MY NO, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH A LOT OF THIS, SO I'M, I'M PICTURING IT IN MY MIND.
AND YOU'RE HELPING ME UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, FOR CLARITY PURPOSES, HOW THIS IS ALL GONNA GO.
I MEAN, AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S OTHER FOLKS I'M SURE THAT HAVE QUESTIONS.
UM, WHEN IS THE, THERE WAS SOMETHING ON HERE ABOUT THE INSTALLATION.
WHEN IS THE PLANNED INSTALLATION FOR THE 30,000 GALLON TANK? UM, IF WE RECEIVE APPROVAL, UM, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE TO FINISH UP THE PERMITTING PROCESS WITH BUILDING AND PLANNING.
ONCE THOSE ALL THE PERMITS ARE ISSUES, THEN WE CAN COMMENCE CONSTRUCTION.
I, IF WE'RE ABLE TO GET STARTED, I WOULD THINK THE PROJECT WOULD PROBABLY TAKE TWO TO THREE MONTHS TO COMPLETE.
UM, AND, AND I KNOW THAT THE APPLICANT IS HERE ANSWERING QUESTIONS, BUT I DO WANT TO JUST FOCUS ONCE AGAIN WITH, UM, OUR NATIONAL CITY FIRE DEPARTMENT, UM, DID ADDRESS A LOT OF THE COMMENTS THAT I RECEIVED REGARDING THE B LEVY
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SITUATION.YOU KNOW, THE POTENTIAL FOR IF THIS TANK WERE TO, UM, HAVE AN EMERGENCY, UH, HOW THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, NATIONAL CITY'S FIRE DEPARTMENT WOULD HANDLE THAT.
I HAVE A HIGH DEGREE OF CONFIDENCE IN A LOT OF THE INFORMATION THAT THEY SHARED WITH ME AND WITH THE PUBLIC.
UM, AND I JUST WANNA, UH, REITERATE, UM, I DID RECEIVE THE COMMENT FROM ONE OF OUR, UH, PUBLIC COMMENTERS, I THINK IT WAS LIKE A FIVE OR SIX PAGE, UM, COMMENT WITH THE DIAGRAMS AND THIS AND THAT DESCRIBING, UM, BLAST RADIUS AND STUFF.
AND, AND I THINK, UM, THAT HAS BEEN ADDRESSED AND, AND, AND HOW, UM, THE VERY UNLIKELY SCENARIO WHERE THAT TO HAPPEN.
UM, BUT ALL OF THE SAFETY FEATURES IN PLACE AND ALL OF THE PREPARATION THAT WOULD BE NEEDED, UM, SHOULD THAT OCCUR WERE THAT TO OCCUR IS IN PLACE.
UM, AND, AND I JUST WANNA EXPRESS MY CONFIDENCE IN THAT.
UH, MEMBER RODRIGUEZ, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I, I JUST, THE QUESTIONS I ASKED EARLIER, BUT YOU WEREN'T HERE.
UM, HOW MANY EMPLOYEES WILL BE PRESENT, UH, DURING THE LOADING, UH, OF PROPANE FROM THE TRUNK TO THE TANK? TYPICALLY, IT'S ONE DRIVER, BUT WE DO HAVE PERSONNEL ON SITE, YOU KNOW, TO ASSIST IF NEEDED.
AND, UH, YOU MENTIONED THE SAFETY RECORD FOR THIS PARTICULAR COMPANY.
HOW, HOW IS IT ANY INCIDENTS? I MEAN, UH, WEST AIR'S BEEN IN NATIONAL CITY SINCE 2007.
I'VE BEEN WITH NA WITH WEST AIR FOR I DON'T, ALMOST 14 YEARS.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE HAD A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, POLICE DEPARTMENT, SAN DIEGO COUNTY.
WE, YOU KNOW, UM, AND I, I THINK OUR, OUR RELATIONSHIP IS PRETTY GOOD.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALWAYS COMMUNICATING, YOU KNOW, WE REACH OUT EVERY YEAR JUST TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S GOOD, YOU KNOW, TO, WE WELCOME 'EM ALL THE TIME TO COME ON SITE AND VISIT US.
UM, I REMEMBER THEY USED TO COME OUT AND DO SOME TRAINING ON SITE WITH US, YOU KNOW, NOT, NOT SO MUCH ALERT RECENTLY, BUT IT WAS NICE, YOU KNOW, TO, TO HAVE THAT TYPE OF RELATIONSHIP WHERE I COULD JUST PICK UP THE PHONE, SEND AN EMAIL, AND GET A RESPONSE.
AND, UM, YOU ALLUDED TO THIS, BUT IT IS ALLOWED FOR RESIDENTIAL USE, SO RESIDENTS CAN GO THERE AND SIMPLY SWITCH OUT THE TANKS THAT IS, UH, OR IS IT EXCLUSIVELY FOR BUSINESSES TO THE STORE SIDE? YES, CORRECT.
TO THE STORE SITE, BUT, OR IS IT EXCLUSIVELY FOR BUSINESSES OR IT'S JUST OPEN TO COMMUNITY AT LARGE? UM, MOST OF IT, I MEAN, I WOULD SAY 90% IS COMMERCIAL BUSINESS.
A LOT OF LOCAL BUSINESSES THAT COME IN AND WANNA SWAP TANKS, UM, OCCASIONALLY, LIKE ONCE IN A WHILE WE'LL GET A, SOMEONE FROM THE PUBLIC, BUT OKAY.
BUT IT, IT IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
IT, YOU JUST, THAT'S JUST NOT YOUR CLIENTELE FOR THE MOST PART.
UM, DOING MY DUE DILIGENCE OF THIS, UH, PROJECT, UM, UH, FULL DISCLOSURE, I WANT TO VISIT THE LOCATION.
UM, AND, UM, YOU, I DID AN OCULAR OF WHERE THIS STACK IS GONNA BE.
UM, BEFORE GOING THERE, I HAD A, UH, A BRIEF, UH, A BRIEFING WITH, UM, WITH CHIEF, UM, CRES WITH REGARDS TO, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M IN THIS, THIS, UM, THIS BUSINESS IN, IN OUR CITY.
I, LOOKING AT THEIR BACKGROUND, I BELIEVE THEY'VE BEEN, UM, VERY RESPONSIBLE CORPORATE CITIZEN OF OUR CITY AND OUR, UM, AND LOOKING AT THE LOCATION OF, OF WHERE THAT, UM, THAT TANK IS GONNA BE LOCATED.
UM, I THINK THEY HAD DONE ALL THEIR, UM, ALL THEIR, UM, DUE DILIGENCE AS WELL, UM, WITH THE, WITH THE, UH, OVERSIGHT, UM, AND, AND, UM, AND, AND INSPECTION OF OUR, UH, FIRE DEPARTMENT.
SO I'M JUST DISCLOSING THAT I WANTED THE LOCATION.
WE'LL LISTEN TO THE REST OF THE PUBLIC NOW.
WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PUBLIC COMMENTS AND BE CALLING YOU UP, UH, THREE AT A TIME.
AND AS I SAY, ONCE YOUR NAME IS CALLED, PLEASE GO OUT INTO THE, INTO THE, UH, UH, MIDWAY THERE, AND THEN THAT WAY WE CAN BRING YOU ON UP.
MARGARITA MORENO, AND THEN, UH, CESAR JAVIER,
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NATIONAL CITY.A HS YOU HAVE TRANSLATION, PLEASE.
WAS FUMBLING WITH THE BUTTONS.
I AM A RESIDENT OF NATIONAL CITY AND A COMMUNITY HEALTH WORKER WITH EHC.
I AM HERE TO SPEAK AGAINST THIS, UH, PROJECT BECAUSE IT WORKS WITH PROPANE AND IT WILL ALSO BRING MORE HEAVY TRUCKS INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND THE POLLUTION FROM THESE DIESEL TRUCKS HARM LUNGS, ESPECIALLY IN CHILDREN AND OLDER ADULTS.
SO I ASK ON BEHALF OF MY COMMUNITY THAT YOU PLEASE DO NOT, UM, AUTHORIZE THE PERMIT FOR THIS BUSINESS.
MARGARITA MORENO, FOLLOWED BY CESAR JAVIER, FOLLOWED BY CYNTHIA.
I AM ALSO A COMMUNITY WORKER WITH EHC, AND I'M ALSO PART OF THE AB 6 1 17 STEERING COMMITTEE.
AND I AM HERE BECAUSE AS A RESIDENT, I WANT NO MORE POLLUTING BUSINESSES COMING TO OUR COMMUNITY INSTEAD OF TRYING TO REDUCE POLLUTION.
WHAT YOU'RE DOING WITH THIS IS GIVING A PERMIT TO EXPAND MORE POLLUTING BUSINESSES.
THIS PROPANE COMPANY WANTS TO INSTALL A LARGER TANK THAT INCREASES THE RISK FOR ACCIDENTS, AND IT WOULD ALSO BRING MORE TRUCKS THROUGH OUR COMMUNITY.
AND OUR COMMUNITY DOESN'T NEED ANY MORE POLLUTING TRUCKS COMING THROUGH.
THEY SAY IT WILL ONLY BE ONE EVERY TWO WEEKS, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AN ELECTRIC TRUCK.
IT'S GOING TO COME AND ADD TO THE POLLUTION WE ALREADY HAVE.
NOW THEY SAY THEY'RE COMMITTED TO THE COMMUNITY.
I DON'T SEE THAT COMMITMENT IF THEY'RE WILLING TO JUST CONTINUE TO GROW AND POLLUTE.
THIS IS A BUSINESS THAT IS FOR THEM, NOT FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
WE WANT BUSINESSES THAT WILL BENEFIT US INSTEAD OF HARMING ME, MY FAMILY AND MY COMMUNITY.
THOSE ARE JAVIER, FOLLOWED BY CYNTHIA PULLER.
KINON, FOLLOWED BY DOYLE MORRISON.
WE WANT TO DECLARE THAT THIS IS ONE OF THE SOURCE OR CHOICES OF ENERGY.
THAT'S ONE THING GOOD IN AMERICA SAYS THAT, DO NOT SMOKE MARIJUANA BECAUSE IT'LL KILL YOU.
NOW WE HAVE PROPANE GAS TO BE DEPOSITED, STORED IN THE PORT AUTHORITY PROPERTY.
WILL THEY BE, I MEAN, WILL THE BUSINESS RENT FROM PORT AUTHORITY OR FROM THE CITY? NUMBER TWO? THANK YOU MADAME UH, KAAN FOR DOING THE ACTUAL INSPECTION.
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WE NEED THAT BECAUSE THE AIR POLLUTION CODE RULE 10, WHICH IS PERMIT.SIR, MA'AM, YOU'LL BE GETTING PERMIT ON LOCATION.
YOU'LL BE GETTING PERMIT ON CONSTRUCTION.
YOU'LL BE MEETING, UH, NEEDING PERMIT ON OPERATION.
YOU'LL BE NEED PERMIT WHENEVER YOU CONVERT OR ANYTHING ABOUT THE FACILITY.
WE REMEMBER THAT, UH, COUNCILOR BUS, MY CLASSMATE.
AND YOU ALWAYS SAY YOU ARE OUT OF TOPIC, MR. JAVIER.
WE HAVE TO CONSIDER EVERYTHING HERE BECAUSE ONCE IT IS THERE AND SOMETHING HAPPENED, WHERE IS ACCOUNTABILITY? SO WE NEED SOME KIND OF TRANSPARENCY.
SO ONE DAY, EVERYBODY HAPPY? SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
OUR CITY, OUR REGION PORT AUTHORITY BY MENT ARE STILL SUBMERGED MUNITION FROM WORLD WAR II DEFENSE IN OUR COASTAL AREA.
WE LEARN THAT FROM PORT AUTHORITY.
THANK, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT.
CYNTHIA FULLER QUINONE FOLLOWED BY DOYLE MORRISON, FOLLOWED BY, UH, MARGARET OCK.
GOOD EVENING MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, STAFF, AND, UH, ALL ATTENDING TONIGHT.
I'M CYNTHIA FULLER QUINONES, A NATIONAL CITY RESIDENT LANDLORD TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMISSIONER AND HEALTHY CO TODOS COALITION MEMBER.
I'M COMMENTING TONIGHT FOR THE HEALTHY CO TODOS COALITION.
BEFORE YOU APPROVE THE WEST AIR PROJECT, WE RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THE POSSIBLE BENEFITS OF A SHORT TERM TARGETED MORATORIUM OF ABOUT THREE TO SIX MONTHS.
TEMPORARY DELAYING DECISION ON ALL NEW WEST SIDE INDUSTRIAL PROJECTS.
FOLLOWING THE EXAMPLE OF OTHER CALIFORNIA CITIES LIKE SANTA ANA, THE CITY OF SANTA ANA AND MORE ACROSS CALIFORNIA PROVIDE RECENT RELEVANT PRECEDENTS FOR ENACTING A MORATORIUM HERE AND RESPONSE TO KNOWN CUMULATIVE HARMS OF TOXIC INDUSTRIAL ACTIVITY ON OUR TIDE LANDS.
THE AIM OF THE THESE LIMITED MORATORIUMS IS TO ALLOW CITY STAFF THE MINIMUM TIME NECESSARY TO REASSESS INDUSTRIAL LAND USE IMPACTS IN LIGHT OF NEW JUSTIFYING DATA.
PLUS COMMUNITY INPUT REGARDING PAST HARMS AND DESIRED LAND USE CHANGES.
THESE MORATORIUM SUPPORT THAT NATIONAL CITY WOULD NOT BE ACTING ALONE NOR OUTSIDE MUNICIPAL PRACTICE.
AND LIKEWISE, UTILIZING A TEMPORARY WEST SIDE INDUSTRIAL PROJECT.
FOCUSED MORATORIUM COURTS HAVE CONSISTENTLY UPHELD PROPERLY SCOPED TIME-LIMITED MORATORIUMS LIKE SANTA ANA'S, WHICH I BE BELIEVE MAY BE THE MOST USEFUL AS A GUIDE FOR NATIONAL CITY.
NOW, WHY NOW? OUR COMING NEW AIR QUALITY, UH, MONITORS, WHICH IN THREE TO SIX MONTHS CAN GIVE US A TRUE LOCAL AIR QUALITY BASELINE.
ONE THAT WILL ALLOW THE CITY TO MUCH BETTER, UH, ASSESS LOCAL AIR POLLUTION, NOT JUST PROJECT BY PROJECT EMISSIONS.
THE NEW BASELINE OF AIR QUALITY MEASUREMENTS.
UH, DOYLE MORRISON, FOLLOWED BY MARGARET GODSHAW.
I MADE COMMENTS AND SUBMITTED 'EM.
UM, UH, FOR THE APRIL 7TH, SEVENTH MEETING, WE ALL SHOULD BE VERY ALARMED AT THE POTENTIAL HAZARD ASSOCIATED WITH A 30,000 GALLON L-G-B-L-G-B TANK, AS WELL AS THE DELIVERY PATH TO REFILLING IT.
WE SHOULD ALL BE PLANNING FOR THE WORST CASE SCENARIO, UH, FOR PLANNING.
UH, YEARS AGO, AN L-G-L-P-G RAIL TRANSFER WAS PROPOSED ON THE WEST SIDE AND THE NATIONAL CITY FIRE DEPARTMENT COULD NOT GET TO A SAFE EMERGENCY PLAN, AND IT WAS DENIED.
APPROVING THIS CUP BEFORE EVEN SEEING OR IMPLEMENTING A SAFETY PLAN IS RECKLESS AND WASTEFUL.
IT DOES JEOPARDIZE THE WEST FRONT DEVELOPMENT ON THE WEST SIDE, UH, THAT THE WEST SIDE DESERVES.
WE'RE ALL TALKING ABOUT, UH, WEST OF THE, UH, PEPPER PARK.
UH, THIS PROJECT WOULD ACTUALLY PUT THAT IN JEOPARDY.
WHO WOULD WANT TO BUILD A, A NICE RESORT NEAR, UH, A BOMB LIKE THAT? UH, IN 2017, A GAS EXPLOSION ON EIGHTH STREET ROCKED THE MAYOR'S HOUSE.
IN AN INTERVIEW, HE SAID THIS, HIS FAMILY CALLED AND SAID THE WHOLE HOUSE ROCKED AS THEY FELT THE SMALL EXPLOSION COMPARED TO A 30,000 GALLON LPG UH, TANK.
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CITY COUNCIL APPROVES THIS CUP, WHAT HAS CHANGED FOR THE NATIONAL CITY FIRE DEPARTMENT AND GETTING A SAFE EMERGENCY PLAN? PLEASE DENY THIS CUP AND SHOW THIS, THAT THIS COUNCIL CARES ABOUT THE WEST SIDE, NATIONAL CITY, AND THE SOUTH BAY.UH, I LIVE ABOUT, UH, TWO BLOCKS AWAY FROM WEST AIR AND ON THE WEST SIDE.
THE PUBLIC OUTREACH PLANNED FOR THE LAST FEW PROJECTS PROPOSED FOR THE WEST SIDE HAS INCLUDED MEETINGS WITH THE NATIONAL CITY FIRE DEPARTMENT.
THE PURPOSE OF THOSE MEETINGS WERE TO ASSURE WEST SIDE AND ALL NATIONAL CITY RESIDENTS THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS CAPABLE OF DEALING WITH ANY CATASTROPHIC EVENTS THAT MIGHT RESULT FROM THE OPERATIONS OF THESE BUSINESSES.
WHY HAS THIS BECOME SO ROUTINE IN NATIONAL CITY? NATIONAL CITY SHOULD PROMOTE CLEAN AND SAFE BUSINESSES FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
NOT ONES THAT COME WITH A WARNING LABEL, NOT ONES THAT WE HAVE TO BE ASSURED WON'T SICKEN US OR EVEN KILL US.
A LOCAL COASTAL PLAN OR PROGRAM THAT WOULDN'T EVEN REQUIRE A CUP OR CLOSE SCRUTINY FOR SUCH BUSINESSES, I DON'T THINK IS A MOVE FORWARD FOR OUR CITY, ESPECIALLY FOR RESIDENTS ON THE WEST SIDE, IT'S TIME.
NATIONAL CITY ENVISION A WEST SIDE THAT DOES NOT BY NATURE ENDANGER THE HEALTH OR EVEN LIVES OF US LIVING AND WORKING NEARBY A WEST SIDE THAT BENEFITS THE CITY, BUT NOT AT THE EXPENSE OF ITS RESIDENCE.
WE SHOULD ENVISION A SAFE WEST SIDE.
IT TAKES WORK AND IT TAKES BRAINS AND IT TAKES CREATIVITY AND IT TAKES GUTS, BUT IT CAN HAPPEN.
I WASN'T REALLY PREPARED TO COME COMMENT ON THIS, BUT, UM, I JUST HEARD MY, UH, NEIGHBORS, FELLOW CITIZENS, PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE AND, YOU KNOW, I'M THINKING ABOUT THE PAST COUNCILS THAT HAVE ALLOWED POLLUTION AND DETRIMENTAL BUSINESSES COME TO NATIONAL CITY AND NOBODY SAID ANYTHING, AND WE'RE PAYING THE PRICE, AND NOW WE HAVE THE NEIGHBORS COMING TO THE NEW COUNCIL HERE.
AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT THE SAME AS JUNKYARDS IN THE POLLUTION INDUSTRY THAT WAS CAME HERE BEFORE.
IT'S A NEW, IT'S A NEW FACE, BUT YOU'RE BEING CHALLENGED TO MAKE THE RIGHT DECISIONS, NOT BECAUSE OF IT MIGHT BE TECHNICALLY COMPLIANT, BUT WHAT'S GOOD FOR THE NEIGHBORS? AND I THINK THIS IS A TEST.
IT GOES ALONG WITH THE ETHICS, THINGS THAT YOU GUYS NEED TO THINK ABOUT.
UM, THAT IS ALL OF THE PUBLIC SPEAKERS THAT WE HAVE.
AND, UH, SO AT THIS POINT, I WOULD LIKE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND DO I HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
MAYOR DEES, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER YAMANI HAS A COMMENT.
AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO PUT, UH, ADD TO THE RECORD THAT, UM, TED GOTCHU SUBMITTED A WRITTEN COMMENT.
MEMBER IMANI, WHAT, UH, MOVE TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.
WE ALREADY HAD THE MOTION, SO YOURS WOULD BE THE SECOND.
OKAY, SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
THIS IS JUST TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS STAGE OF THE GAME.
SO WITH THAT, SHALL WE HAVE ROLL CALL PLEASE? COUNCIL MEMBER ANI? YES.
OKAY WITH THAT, THE, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED NOW.
IT'S FOR COMMENTS OR DELIBERATION, UH, AMONG THE COUNCIL.
UM, SOMETHING JUST, JUST KIND OF CAME TO ME AND I'M GONNA ASK IF ONE OF THE REPRESENTATIVES FOR THE PROPONENT COULD COME FORWARD JUST FOR A MOMENT.
I, IF I COULD ASK, BECAUSE WE, WE KNOW THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE TALKING TALKING ABOUT A DELIVERY TRUCK ONCE EVERY TWO WEEKS, APPROXIMATELY, CORRECT? YES, SIR.
BUT NOW, SINCE THIS IS FOR THE MOST PART GONNA BE MORE COMMERCIAL, THEY SAID ABOUT 90% OF THIS, OF YOUR PRODUCT IS GOING OUT FOR COMMERCIAL.
UM, AND YET YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT FILLING LIKE MOTOR HOMES OR, OR VEHICLES WITH TANKS
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ON THE VEHICLE.AND SO IT'S BASICALLY SWAP OUT.
SO WHAT ARE THE TYPE OF VEHICLES THAT COME IN TO PICK UP NORMALLY AT A FACILITY LIKE THIS? UH, YOU COULD HAVE, UM, ANY TYPE OF COMMERCIAL.
VE IS A COMMERCIAL VEHICLE COULD COME IN, UH, BUT MORE THAN LIKELY, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST, UH, INDIVIDUAL CARS OR TRUCKS THAT TYPICALLY LIKE PICKUP OR A VAN OR SOMETHING ALONG THAT LINE? YES SIR.
OR SMALL DELIVERY TRUCKS TYPE OF THING? UH, YES SIR.
SO, SO WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT 18 WHEELERS COMING IN THERE TO GET, UH, TO GET TANKS? UH, NO, SIR.
JUST WANTED, SO JUST, I, I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE IT MADE IT, I WAS, I WAS KIND OF GETTING A PICTURE OF WHAT PEOPLE WERE SAYING, YOU KNOW, WITH THE TRAFFIC THAT THERE WAS GONNA BE A WHOLE LOT OF DIESEL TRUCKS COMING IN AND OUTTA THERE TO, TO LOAD UP.
JUST WANTED TO GET A CLARIFICATION ON THAT.
COUNCIL MEMBERS, WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHTS? THE CHAIR.
WE'LL GO WITH MEMBER IMANI FIRST.
UM, YOU IMAN, ARE YOU ASKING US TO COMMENT OR TO, BECAUSE I ALREADY SAID MY PIECE.
YEAH, I KNOW IT WAS KIND OF MORE OF THE FORM OF COMMENT EARLIER.
SO YOU JUST WANNA REITERATE WHAT YOU HAD SAID BEFORE AS A COMMENT.
UH, THANK YOU TO THE COMMUNITY GRACIA.
UM, I, UH, AM VERY SENSITIVE TO, UH, THE TOPICS RELATED TO THE WEST SIDE, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE CONCERNS.
UM, BUT I ALSO HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO BALANCE, UH, THE, THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY WITH, UM, WHAT IS ALLOWED PER THE LAND USE CODE, THE PRESENT LAND USE CODE, UM, AND THE, YOU KNOW, ASKING THE QUESTIONS.
I FEEL LIKE I HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK THE RIGHT QUESTIONS AS FAR AS THE SAFETY CONCERNS, AS, UH, I APPRECIATE THAT, UH, THE APPLICANT'S, UH, REPRESENTATIVES ARE HERE TONIGHT TO ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS AS WELL.
I DO FEEL, UM, THAT IT IS, UH, A PROJECT THAT THOUGH IT IS, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE IS AN EMERGENCY RESPONSE PLAN, UM, THE RISK FOR THAT TYPE OF, UM, GRAND EMERGENCY IS, UH, LOW, LOW ENOUGH FOR ME TO FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH ALLOWING, UH, FOR THIS TUP OR THIS CUP, UM, TO MOVE FORWARD.
SO I AM IN FAVOR OF MOVING FORWARD WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE CUP BASED ON THE CONVERSATIONS TONIGHT.
UM, BUT AGAIN, I DO WANNA REITERATE TO THE COMMUNITY THAT I AM VERY SENSITIVE TO CONCERNS REGARDING ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE ON THE WEST SIDE.
AND I DO HEAR THE ARGUMENT THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT, THE WORK THAT IS NECESSARY TO CHANGE THE LAND USE, UM, DESIGNATIONS FOR THE WEST SIDE, UM, DOES REQUIRE A LOT OF COURAGE, A LOT OF WORK, A LOT OF RESOURCES.
UM, SO THAT IS SOMETHING, UM, THAT I DO HERE.
AND I AM, YOU KNOW, ACCEPTING THAT, UM, COMMENTARY TODAY.
UH, I'M NOT TAKING IT AND SETTING IT ASIDE.
IT IS IN MY MIND AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT I CAN TELL YOU I CAN STRIVE TOWARDS, UM, FOR THE DECISION THAT IS MADE TONIGHT OR THAT IS BEFORE US TONIGHT, I AM IN FAVOR BASED ON THE LOW RISK, UM, BASED ON THE CONVERSATIONS AND EVEN THE BUY-IN FROM OUR CITY STAFF AND OUR NATIONAL CITY FIRE DEPARTMENT.
UH, AND MAYOR, IF YOU'RE READY FOR A MOTION, I DO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS PROJECT.
UH, MAYOR, UH, THANK YOU TO AGAIN, CITY STAFF FOR WORKING ON THIS ISSUE, FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR A ROBUST CONVERSATION FOR WEST AIR, FOR COMING HERE.
AND, UH, AND ALSO FOR COMMUNITY MEMBERS FOR EXPRESSING THEIR CONCERNS.
I CLEARLY, THERE ARE STILL SAFETY CONCERNS FROM A LOT OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS INTO A VERY SENSITIVE AREA IN OUR CITY.
I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO, UH, UH, EXPAND ON OUR WEST SIDE.
WE ARE A LANDLOCKED CITY, AND SO I WOULD ACTUALLY BE, UH, ENCOURAGING, UH, WEST AIR TO MAYBE HAVE A SERIES OF CONVERSATIONS WITH, UH, WHAT IS SEEMINGLY THE ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH COALITION, UM, IN ORDER TO BRING
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A PROJECT THAT IS MUCH MORE, UH, FEASIBLE FOR OUR COMMUNITY TO SUPPORT.AND, UM, UH, ALTHOUGH I, I COULD UNDERSTAND HOW THAT MAY SEEM UNFAIR SEEN AS YOU'VE GONE THROUGH A VERY EXTENSIVE PROCESS TO GET TO THIS POINT.
WE HAVE HAD A LONG HISTORY IN OUR CITY TO JUST KIND OF RUBBER STAMPING PROJECTS AND, UH, UM, AT TIMES, UH, PROJECTS THAT STILL HAVE SAFETY CONCERNS.
SO THAT WOULD BE MY REQUEST OF THE APPLICANT.
AND, UM, I, I DIDN'T ANTICIPATE A MOTION BEING MADE THIS QUICKLY, BUT I WOULD MAKE THAT A, A SUBSTITUTE MOTION, UM, IF WEST AIR IS OPEN TO HAVING DIALOGUES WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH COALITION TO DISCUSS A PROJECT AND MAYBE THROUGH A SERIES OF A, OF A WORKSHOP AND, AND THEN BRING BACK ANY RECOMMENDATIONS THEREAFTER.
I'LL MAKE THAT IN A FORM OF A MOTION THERE A SECOND TO THE MOTION HEARING.
SO I WANT TO THANK, UH, CITY STAFF FOR THEIR EXTENSIVE, UH, WORK ON THIS.
AND I APPRECIATE THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
SO I I REALLY APPRECIATE THE, UH, THE, THE FOLKS, UM, FROM THE COMMUNITY COMING IN.
THE, THE PART OF THE REALITY TOO IS, UM, WE DO NEED INDUSTRY.
SO WHAT, WHAT WE DON'T NEED IS MORE POLLUTION, BUT THAT'S NOT THE CASE HERE.
THIS PROJECT ISN'T POLLUTING THIS PROJECT, UH, HAS A, A FIRE RISK.
AND I THINK THE APPLICANTS AND OUR CITY STAFF HAVE WORKED REALLY HARD AND BEEN REALLY, UH, DILIGENT ON REDUCING, UH, THAT RISK WITH THE LOCATION AND THE SIGHTING.
SO, UM, I, SO I DO APPRECIATE, UH, THAT, AND SO I, I DO SUPPORT THE MOTION.
I, I APPRECIATE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER MOLINA FOR, UH, HER WORK ON THIS AND HER DILIGENCE AND, AND REACHING OUT TO THE COMMUNITY.
'CAUSE THESE ARE, UH, DIFFICULT DECISIONS.
BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THERE'S RESTAURANTS, THERE'S OTHER SMALL BUSINESSES THAT BENEFIT FROM, FROM HAVING THIS IN, IN CLOSE PROXIMITY.
I, I KNOW PEOPLE THAT USE THESE, UH, PROPANE TANKS.
SO, UM, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE DO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE SAFE.
AND I THINK, UH, WE'RE DOING THAT.
SO I APPRECIATE THAT, AND I, UH, SUPPORT THE, THE MOTION.
UM, YEAH, IT'S ALWAYS DIFFICULT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT BUSINESSES COMING INTO AN AREA.
UH, AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT RISK, EVERY PROJECT, NO MATTER WHAT IT IS, HAS SOME LEVEL OF RISK.
WHETHER, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING IN A SEVEN 11 OR WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A NUCLEAR POWER PLANT, I MEAN, THERE'S DIFFERENT LEVELS OF RISK, UH, FOR EACH AND EVERY ONE OF 'EM.
AND SO I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IS WHAT IS THE LEVEL OF RISK, AND ALSO WHAT ARE THE VARIABLES.
UH, A LOT OF TIMES IF YOU'VE GOT LIKE A NEW INDUSTRY AND SOMETHING, A NEW CONCEPT, THERE'S A LOT MORE VARIABLES BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE A TRACK RECORD.
UM, PROPANE TANKS AND THE LARGE ONES HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME.
THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THERE'S MORE SAFETY REQUIREMENTS NOW.
THERE'S MORE, UH, THERE'S MORE, UH, SAFETY IMPLEMENTATION AND MECHANISMS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
AND YET THERE STILL HAS NOT BEEN ANY MAJOR PROBLEMS. SO IT'S THE, THE RISK LEVEL IS MUCH, MUCH LESS.
IS THERE A RISK? THERE'S A RISK TO EVERYTHING.
THE QUESTION IS WHAT IS THE LEVEL OF RISK? UH, AND TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, IT'S SOME PEOPLE GONNA HATE ME FOR SAYING THIS.
THERE'S ANOTHER PROJECT GOING INTO YOUR AREA ON THE WEST SIDE THAT HAS, IN MY OPINION, A HUNDRED TIMES MORE RISK THAN THIS ONE.
BUT THAT ONE'S NOT GONNA BE COMING BEFORE US.
IT'LL GO BEFORE THE PORT COMMISSION AND THE, UH, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL SEE IF ANYONE LOOKS AT THE RISK FACTORS THERE.
BUT, SO THERE'S A RISK TO EVERYTHING.
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UH, I JUST DON'T SEE ANY OUTSTANDING RISK WITH THIS PROJECT.UM, AND I DO NOT SEE THE, THE AMOUNT OF, UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN I FIRST STARTED HEARING IT AND PEOPLE WERE TALKING ABOUT ALL THE INCREASED TRUCK TRAFFIC, OKAY, THAT, THAT'S A VIABLE ARGUMENT.
BUT EXCEPT THIS, THIS ONE, EXCEPT FOR THE DELIVERY TRUCK OF THE, OF THE PROPANE ITSELF, ONCE EVERY TWO WEEKS, YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT HEAVY TRUCK TRAFFIC.
AND FOR THE MOST PART, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SMALLER, UH, SMALLER TRUCKS, PICKUP TRUCKS, UH, UH, PANEL LIKE PANEL TRUCKS AND THAT TYPE OF STUFF.
TAKING IT BASICALLY TO RESTAURANTS OR TAKING IT DOWN TO NASCO, THINGS ALONG THAT LINE.
UH, SO IT'S, IT'S MUCH LIGHTER VEHICLES, UM, AND PROBABLY VERY, VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE OF ANY OF THOSE BEING DIESEL EITHER.
SO, UM, SO YOU KNOW, AS MUCH AS, YOU KNOW, WE, WE ORIGINALLY HEAR ABOUT PROJECTS LIKE THIS, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE COME UP WITH A LOT OF STATEMENTS.
WE JUST NEED TO LOOK AT, LOOK AT 'EM THROUGH AND SEE JUST HOW REALISTIC OR WHAT PERCENTAGE OF, OF RISK OR OF OCCURRENCE THAT THOSE THINGS ACTUALLY HAVE.
SO, UM, AS I SAY, SO I, UH, APPRECIATE THE WORK.
UH, AND I KNOW THE COMPANY HAS BEEN A GOOD COMPANY IN OUR CITY AND HAS HAD A GOOD TRACK RECORD AND HAS NOT, AND HAS DEALT WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT TYPE GASES AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
AND WE'VE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM.
AND, UH, SO CERTAINLY SOMETHING LIKE THIS WITH THE PROPANE TANKS, WHICH ARE WELL ESTABLISHED, AND THE MODERN ONES HAVE WAY MORE, WAY MORE SAFETY FEATURES THAN OUR GRANDFATHER'S PROPANE LARGE TANKS HAD.
AND, UH, AND THERE WASN'T PROBLEMS WITH THOSE EITHER, BUT, UH, SO IT'S EVEN THAT MUCH SAFER TODAY.
SO THAT'S JUST BASICALLY MY COMMENT ON THAT.
SO WITH THAT, WE DO HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND AND CALL FOR THE ROLL CALL.
AYE, UH, VOTE IS FOUR TO ONE PASSES.
[10.1 $10,000 Construction Financing Loan for the Rehabilitation of Affordable Housing Units at National City Park Apartments C2]
WE GO ON TO, UH, STAFF REPORTS.FIRST ONE BEING A 10,000 CONSTRUCTION FINANCING LOAN FOR THE REHABILITATION OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS AT NATIONAL CITY PARK APARTMENTS.
AND WE HAVE A, DO WE HAVE A STAFF REPORT ON THAT ONE? GOOD MORNING, ANGELITA.
IT'S GOT, I, I THINK, I THINK THIS IS YOU.
GOOD EVENING MAYOR COUNCIL, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AND STAFF.
ANGELITA PALMA, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT MANAGER WITH THE NATIONAL CITY HOUSING AUTHORITY, TERRAS DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, THE DEVELOPER FOR THE ACQUISITION AND REHABILITATION OF A PORTION OF NATIONAL CITY PARK APARTMENTS.
NAMELY THE 240 UNIT AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT, WHICH I'LL REFER TO AS N-C-P-A-C TWO, LOCATED AT THREE 18 EAST 22ND STREET, NATIONAL CITY, WEST
UH, AND THE, EXCUSE ME, UM, I'M A LITTLE THROWN OFF BECAUSE THE ROOM WAS JUST CLEARED,
UM, THE BUILDING EACH, THE BUILDING ENVELOPE, UH, WILL INCLUDE NEW WINDOWS, DOORS, UH, NEW ROOF PAINT AND ADDED INSTALLATION.
UH, THE ENERGY SYSTEM, UH, WILL INCLUDE IMPROVEMENTS, UM, CONVERTING THE PROPERTY TO AN ALL ELECTRIC SYSTEM, INCLUDING CAPPING THE EXISTING
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GAS LINES, INSTALLING A NEW HVAC SYSTEM.UH, SAFETY AND ACCESSIBILITY IMPROVEMENTS WILL INCLUDE ASBESTOS AND MOLD REMEDIATION.
UH, THE INTERIOR WILL, UH, INTERIORS WILL INCLUDE THE REHABILITATION OF, UM, THE, UH, KITCHENS AND BATHROOMS. THERE IS A RELOCATION PLAN IN PLACE AND, UH, TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE, ALL OVER INCOME RESIDENTS WILL BE OFFERED PERMANENT HOUSING AT ANOTHER LOCATION ON SITE IN THEIR UNITS.
SO, UM, THE NATIONAL CITY HOUSING AUTHORITY IS RECOMMENDING FUNDING IN THE AMOUNT OF $10,000 FROM OUR LOW AND MODERATE INCOME HOUSING FUND WITH A PROJECT LABOR AGREEMENT FOR THE CONSTRUCTION LOAN FOR THE REHABILITATION OF THE UNITS.
BY RECEIVING THE COMMITMENT OF FUNDS, THE P AND THE PLA FROM THE CDC HA, IT WILL INCREASE THE PROJECT'S LIKELIHOOD OF RECEIVING THE TAX EXEMPT BONDS, WHICH THEY'RE APPLYING FOR THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS, UH, FOR RECEIVING THESE FUNDS WOULD INCLUDE, UH, THE APPLICABLE FEDERAL RATE AT THE TIMING OF CONSTRUCTION FINANCING, OR 3%, WHICHEVER IS GREATER.
UH, THE 238 OF THE 240 UNITS WILL BE REHABILITATED.
UH, SO THE CDC HA WILL, UM, HAVE THESE AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNIT, UM, WILL RESTRICT THESE AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS BETWEEN 30 AND 80% OF THE AREA MEETING INCOME FOR A TERM OF 55 YEARS FROM COMPLETION, UH, REIMBURSEMENT.
UM, ANOTHER CONDITION OF THIS LOAN WILL BE A REIMBURSEMENT TO OUR, UH, FUND FOR STAFF AND CONSULTANT TIME, WHICH WILL OCCUR, UM, WITH THE CONSTRUCTION FINANCE CLOSING, UH, BUILDING PERMIT APPROVAL.
AND, UM, THE NEXT CONDITION WOULD BE UPON, UM, THE FUNDS WOULD BE DUE UPON, UM, CLOSING OF THE AWARD, UM, FOR THE TAX EXEMPT BONDS FROM THE DEBT, UH, CALIFORNIA DEBT LIMIT ALLOCATION COMMITTEE AND LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDITS FROM THE CALIFORNIA TAX CREDIT ALLOCATION COMMITTEE, PAYMENT OF THE STATE PAYMENT FROM STATE PREVAILING WAGE FOR THE REHABILITATION OF THE PROJECT, AND ENTERING INTO A PROJECT LABOR AGREEMENT.
SO THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
UM, WE DO HAVE THE DEVELOPERS ON THE LINE, SO, UM, MATT LAKOTA, PRESIDENT OF TERRA CORP AND TERRAX, UH, COMPANIES.
AND WE ALSO HAVE JEREMY HUFFMAN FROM ZEN DEVELOPMENT CONSULTANTS, LLC.
UH, SO WITH THAT I CAN TAKE, UM, ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY.
FIRST OF ALL, ANY QUESTIONS TO STAFF? QUESTION IS, DO, DOES ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS OR WANT A PRESENTATION FROM THE DEVELOPER? IT'S NOT THAT I DON'T WANT TO, IT JUST, YEAH, NO, I'M SATIS I'M SATISFIED RIGHT NOW.
WAS THERE A PRESENTATION FOR THE PRESENTATION? YEAH, WE DO HAVE A NUMBER OF PUBLIC SPEAKERS ON THIS THAT'S I THINK, HAVE SOME EXPERTISE IN THIS.
WELL, WHY DON'T WE DO THAT AND THEN WE, IF WE NEED, IF WE NEED TO TALK WITH THE DEVELOPERS, WE HAVE THEM ONLINE SO WE CAN, WE CAN QUESTION THEM.
LET'S, LET'S, LET'S TAKE IT THAT WAY.
FIRST OF ALL, BECAUSE I KNOW SHE WAS GETTING VERY HUNGRY.
UH, CAROL KIM, LET'S BRING, BRING HER
DO YOU NEED TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND, UM, THIS, THIS IS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING.
AND, UH, TO BE FOLLOWED BY MATTHEW EVA GONZALEZ, AND FOLLOWED BY AJ.
AND, AND, AND LET ME JUST SAY, I SHOULD, SHOULD SAY UP THE FRONT.
I SHOULD DISCLOSE, I DID HAVE A CALL THIS MORNING, UH, FROM ONE OF THE REPRESENTATIVES OF BUILDING TRADE.
JUST ASK HIM IF I HAD ANY QUESTIONS.
AND I SAID I DID NOT HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
SO JUST FOR DISCLOSURE PURPOSES.
UM, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS AND CITY STAFF.
I'M THE CEO OF THE S-D-B-T-C FAMILY HOUSING CORP, WHICH OWNS AND OPERATES NCPA OR NATIONAL CITY PARK APARTMENTS.
AND, UM, CORP TWO, WHICH IS THE PART, THE WESTERN PARCEL OF OUR PROPERTY, WESTERN HALF OF OUR PROPERTY THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING TO REHAB HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE SINCE 1972.
IT IS, UM, ELDERLY
AND WE HAVE BEEN DOING SOME GOOD WORK TO REALLY INVEST BACK INTO THE PROPERTY AND DO SOME, UH, REHAB.
AND WE STARTED TO REALIZE THAT THERE'S A LOT MORE INFRASTRUCTURE WORK AND OTHER THINGS THAT
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HAVE TO TAKE PLACE IN ORDER TO TRULY ENSURE THAT, ONE, THERE'S MORE LONGEVITY IN THOSE BUILDINGS FOR THE NEXT SEVERAL DECADES.AND THEN ALSO THAT OUR TENANTS HAVE REALLY SAFE, HIGH QUALITY HOMES TO LIVE IN.
SO WE WENT AND FOUND A DEVELOPMENT PARTNER THROUGH, UM, TERRAX AND THEIR TEAM.
AND, UH, MATT TI HAS BEEN TERRIFIC IN HELPING US SORT THROUGH ALL OF THIS.
I WILL SAY THAT WE ARE, IT'S, WE'RE GOING THROUGH A VERY COMPETITIVE PROCESS RIGHT NOW.
'CAUSE AS YOU ALL KNOW, TAX CREDITS ARE VERY HARD, LIKE HARD TO COME BY AT THIS STATE.
AND, UM, EVERY POINT WILL COUNT.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE WORKING TO DO IS MAXIMIZE OUR POINTS IN TERMS OF OUR PREVAILING WAGE AND OUR LABOR STANDARDS, WHICH IS SOMETHING OF COURSE, WE ALREADY, UM, REALLY MAKE A CORE TENANT OF THE WAY WE OPERATE
SO WE ARE EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO COME TO YOU TO ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT SO THAT, UM, WE CAN GET THIS LOAN, WHICH WILL THEN TRIGGER THE PREVAILING WAGE REQUIREMENT, WHICH WILL ALLOW US TO GET A FEW MORE POINTS ON OUR APPLICATION, WHICH WILL THEN HOPEFULLY BRING US RESOURCES TO, UM, HELP US REFURBISH AND REHAB, DEEPLY REHAB.
'CAUSE NOW WE'VE ACTUALLY GONE, IT'S LIKE TICKED UP TO 180,000 PLUS NOW PER UNIT.
SO WE'RE GONNA BE DOING A LOT OF WORK IN THESE UNITS AS WE ARE GOING THROUGH THE INSPECTIONS AND, AND INVESTIGATIONS.
WE'RE UNCOVERING LOTS OF THINGS THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DO.
UM, WE'RE ASKING YOU TO SUPPORT THAT.
AND, UH, WE LOOK FORWARD TO BEING ABLE TO REALLY BRING MORE LIFE BACK INTO NCPA, WHICH HAS BEEN A CORE COMMUNITY FOR NATIONAL CITY FOR MANY, MANY DECADES, AND HOPEFULLY MANY DECADES TO COME.
AND THEN WE HAVE, UH, AJ AFTER THAT, UH, GOOD EVENING MAYOR, HONORABLE COUNCIL, UM, CITY MANAGER.
MY NAME IS MATTHEW LEBA GONZALEZ.
I'M THE REHAB PROJECT MANAGER AT NCPA, THE NATIONAL CITY PARK APARTMENTS.
AND YES, I SPEND MORE TIME IN YOUR LOVELY CITY THAN I DO IN MY TIME IN MY TOWN.
UM, I, I'M URGING YOU TO PLEASE OFFER US THIS LOAN FOR A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT REASONS.
LIKE ANGELINA HAD STATED, THERE'S 22 BUILDINGS AND 240 UNITS INCORPORATION.
TWO, ULTIMATELY THE, THE INTERIOR OF ALL THESE UNITS ARE GONNA BE FULLY GUTTED OUT.
ALL THE DRYWALL'S GONNA BE REMOVED, ALL NEW PLUMBING FROM THREE QUARTER INCH COPPER PIPE TO PECS, WHICH IT'S ALL PVC THESE DAYS.
NEW ELECTRICAL, NEW FLOORING, NEW WINDOWS, JUST MORE ENERGY EFFICIENT, TRYING TO BRING EVERYTHING UP TO DATE.
WE'RE REALLY INVESTED TO, TO MAKE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS.
WE HAVE A LOT OF WHAT THEY CALL LEGACY TENANTS, RESIDENTS THAT HAVE BEEN THERE FOR LONG LENGTHS OF TIME.
WE ARE COMMITTED TO MAKING THEIR, THEIR, THEIR COMMUNITY BETTER.
AND, UH, WITH THIS LOAN, WE'RE ABLE TO HAVE THAT PREVAILING WAGE ASPECT, WHICH ULTIMATELY CONTRIBUTES TO US HAVING SKILLED AND TRAINED WORKERS THAT CAN CONTRIBUTE TO WORKING SAFELY, UM, TAKING PRIDE IN THEIR WORK AND, AND COMPLETING PROJECTS ON TIME UNDER BUDGET.
UNION TOWER, IF YOU HAVEN'T, IF YOU HAVEN'T DRIVEN BY, IT'S AMAZING.
AND, AND IT'S COMPLETED AND IT'S MONTHS AHEAD OF SCHEDULE AND IT COSMETICALLY IT'S CHANGED THAT CORNER, WHICH JUST SO HAPPENS TO BE MY OFFICE OVER AT OLIVE WOOD CLUBHOUSE.
AND IT IS JUST AMAZING TO BE ABLE TO LOOK OUT THE WINDOW AND SEE THAT PROJECT, WHICH INITIALLY HAD 16 AFFORDABLE UNITS.
NOW WE'RE UP TO 94 AFFORDABLE UNITS.
SO WE'RE CONTRIBUTING TO MAKING THIS COMMUNITY MORE ACCESSIBLE FOR INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE FINANCIALLY UNABLE TO ATTAIN, YOU KNOW, GOOD QUALITY LIVING AND STANDARDS.
SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT APPROXIMATELY AT, AT THIS STAGE, ABOUT $180,000 PER UNIT ON THE AVERAGE AS FAR AS, UH, IMPROVEMENTS, GUTTING, THE, THE WHOLE BIG EVERYTHING.
AND, AND DO, DO YOU KNOW ANY GOOD WORKERS THAT CAN DO THAT?
YEAH, JUST, JUST WANNA MAKE SURE.
THANK YOU GUYS, I APPRECIATE IT.
AJ ESTRADA, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WITH THE NATIONAL CITY PARK DEPARTMENTS.
UM, LOOK, WE'RE WE'RE ASKING YOU TO APPROVE THIS RULE, THIS SLOAN, FOR ALL THE REASONS THAT WERE MENTIONED BY CAROL KIM AND MATTHEW LEBA GONZALEZ.
UH, 'CAUSE THIS IS ABOUT INVESTING IN A, IN A BUILDING.
AND, BUT MORE IN THE INSTITUTION THAT PEOPLE HAVE CALLED HOME FOR GENERATIONS HERE IN NATIONAL CITY.
THIS IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING, MUCH LIKE THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING I GREW UP IN.
AND THE OUTCOMES FOR PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE, FOR THEIR CHILDREN THAT HAVE ACCESS TO, UH, TO FACILITIES
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THAT ARE TOP TIER BUILT BY SKILLED AND TRAINED LABOR IS JUST OUTSTANDING.AND, AND NATIONAL CITY DESERVES THAT.
IT DESERVES MORE, AND WE'RE HOPING TO, UH, JOIN YOU IN, IN GIVING THAT TO THE RESIDENTS HERE.
ALRIGHT, SO THIS IS A LOAN FOR $10,000, MR. MAYOR? YES.
CAN I JUST, UH, HAVE SOMETHING TO STATE REALLY QUICK? OKAY.
UM, I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE ALL THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UH, COMPLEXES WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY, INCLUDING SUCH A STAPLE THAT IS THE NATIONAL CITY PARK APARTMENTS.
AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE GREAT SERVICE THAT YOU PROVIDE TO OUR, TO OUR COMMUNITY UPON CONSULTATION, I DO BELIEVE THE CALIFORNIA LEVINE ACT WOULD NOT BE APPLICABLE IN MY VOTE ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM TODAY.
UH, AND IN AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION, THOUGH, I WILL BE RECUSING MYSELF FROM THE DISCUSSION AND MY VOTE AS WELL.
AND I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS, WHAT WAS THE RATIONALE? WHAT WAS THE REASON? I DIDN'T QUITE HEAR YOU.
YEAH, I, I, I BELIEVE THAT THE CALIFORNIA LEVINE ACT WOULD NOT BE APPLICABLE ON MY VOTE OR DISCUSSION ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM TODAY.
BUT IN AN APPEND OF CAUTION, UH, I WILL BE RECUSING MYSELF FROM THE DISCUSSION OF THE VOTE.
I'M SORRY, I JUST DIDN'T HEAR.
UH, THANK YOU TO OUR, UH, SPEAKERS.
THANK YOU YOU FOR STICKING WITH US A LITTLE BIT LATER INTO THE NIGHT.
UM, YOU KNOW, I ALSO DO HAVE TO DISCLOSE, I HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS WITH AJ ABOUT THIS TOPIC.
UM, I THINK, UH, VERY EARLY ON, A VERY EARLY CONVERSATION WITH MS. CAROL KIM AS WELL.
UM, I, I AM AGAIN, THIS IS, UH, PROJECT IN MY DISTRICT, DISTRICT ONE, AND I'VE KNOWN THESE NATIONAL CITY PARK APARTMENTS, YOU KNOW, SINCE CHILDHOOD.
UH, I DIDN'T LIVE THERE, BUT I KIND OF LIVED THERE EVERY TIME I WOULD GO AND VISIT MY FRIENDS.
UM, YOU KNOW, MY, MY SCHOOL FRIENDS, UM, AND I AM IN FAVOR OF WHAT WOULD BE NEEDED TO REHAB SOME OF THESE UNITS.
UM, THEY, THEY ARE LEGACY UNITS.
I MEAN, MY GOD, THAT IS A LEGACY IN NATIONAL CITY.
UM, I HEARD YOU CAROL SAY, CALL THIS A CORE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW? ABSOLUTELY.
THIS IS DEFINITELY, UM, WHAT NATIONAL CITY, UH, IS, IS, YOU KNOW, LOTS OF PEOPLE HAVE LIVED AND CONTINUE TO LIVE IN THESE APARTMENTS.
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE AND BE ABLE TO SUPPORT, UM, ANY REHAB THAT IS NECESSARY, ESPECIALLY SEEING THE EXAMPLE OF WHAT IS UNION TOWER, WHICH IS JUST ACROSS THE STREET FROM CORE TWO.
UM, AND CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT THERE TO BE ANY TENANT ENVY, YOU KNOW, THE FOLKS THAT GET TO LIVE IN THE BRAND NEW TOWER, BEAUTIFUL MURAL ON THE OUTSIDE, BY THE WAY, I DRIVE BY IT DAILY.
UM, AND I KNOW FOLKS WILL BE MOVING INTO THOSE UNITS VERY SOON.
UM, YEAH, I WANNA SEE THE SAME ACROSS THE STREET IN, UH, COURT TOO.
SO I AM IN FAVOR OF THIS, UM, UH, THIS, THIS, UM, INVESTMENT.
UM, AND, UM, I LIKE WHAT, UH, AJ SAID IS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS AN INVESTMENT FOR THE COMMUNITY.
UH, IT IS HAVING SKIN IN THE GAME, NATIONAL CITY, THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY, HAVING SKIN IN THE GAME FOR, UM, NATIONAL CITY PARK APARTMENTS.
YES, I'M, I'M IN FAVOR AS WELL.
SO APPRECIATE OUR, OUR HOUSING STAFF AND ANGELITA, UM, AND YOUR TEAM FOR WORKING ON THIS.
UM, THE, THESE UNITS, I DON'T WANT TO REPEAT EVERYTHING, BUT, UH, REALLY APPRECIATE, UH, ALL YOUR GUYS' WORK ON THIS.
I MEAN, SO THERE'S JUST THE CONCEPT BEEN GOING ON FOR, WHAT, 10 OR 15 YEARS OR MAYBE MORE ABOUT, UM, THE NEW, THE NEW UNION TOWER AND IT'S, IT'S JUST, IT JUST POPS.
IT'S, IT'S, AND ESPECIALLY MY FAVORITE PART IS THE MURAL ON, ON THE TOWER PART OF IT, THE ART AND JUST WHAT THE MEANING OF THE MESSAGE.
UM, AND SO, UH, I THINK IT WAS REALLY GOOD INVESTMENT OF OUR, UH, HOUSING, HOUSING DOLLARS.
AND, AND THIS REFURBISHMENT IS, I USED TO LIVE, UH, IN THOSE UNITS IN, UH, 1 0 7.
AND, AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT, THAT, UM, THAT IT, IT DEFINITELY NEEDS SOME WORK.
SO THIS IS, UH, UM, THIS IS, I, I THINK REALLY NECESSARY.
AND, UM, AND I, AND I WANNA SEE THIS MOVE FORWARD EVEN BEYOND THIS.
I'D LIKE TO SEE HOPEFULLY THE LONGER RANGE PLAN.
I KNOW YOU GUYS, UH, THESE UNITS ARE MORE IN CRITICAL, LIKE MORE NEED, NEED THAT WORK RIGHT NOW.
BUT IN THE LONG TERM, I STILL HOPE THAT YOU GUYS CAN, CAN BUILD UP AND BUILD ON THE SUCCESS FROM, FROM UNION TOWER SIDE.
I APPRECIATE THE WORK AND, AND SUPPORTIVE.
ALRIGHT, WELL, NATIONAL CITY PARK DEPARTMENTS HAVE BEEN AN INTEGRAL PART OF NATIONAL CITY FOR A LONG TIME.
I'M KIND OF ENVIOUS VICE MAYOR OF SAYING THAT SHE GREW UP WITH THOSE, THOSE BEING THERE AS AN ADULT.
BUT, SO THAT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
SO I'M A LITTLE, LITTLE ENVIOUS, I'M SORRY,
UM, BUT, UH,
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KNOW, AND WERE LEGACY IN OF THEMSELF.BUT THEN THEY WENT ON TO BUY THEIR DREAM HOME IN NATIONAL CITY.
THEY BOUGHT AND WAS, AND WAS NO LONGER A RENTER.
THEY WERE ACTUALLY ABLE TO BUY A HOME AND, AND MOVE UP.
AND, UH, THOSE ARE THE, THOSE ARE THE KIND OF SUCCESS STORIES THAT HAVE BEEN BEEN GREAT THERE.
AND, AND I STILL REMEMBER WHEN, YOU KNOW, THE UNION TOWER WAS STILL JUST KIND OF A, A VISION.
AND YOU ALL CAME BEFORE US BECAUSE WE HAD A BUNCH OF HOUSING CREDITS AND EVERYTHING ELSE, AND HOUSING MONEY AND STAFF RECOMMENDED THERE WAS YOUR PROJECT AND THERE WAS ANOTHER PROJECT.
AND SO IT SAYS, WELL, LET'S DO SOLOMON, LET'S SPLIT IT RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE.
WE'LL GET HALF EACH ONE OF THEM.
WELL, YOU GUYS WERE TRYING TO FINISH OFF YOUR FINANCING.
THE OTHER ONE DIDN'T HAVE TWO NICKELS RUBBED TOGETHER YET.
AND WE DECIDED, NO, WE WERE GONNA GIVE THE BULK OF THE MONEY OVER TO UNION SO THAT YOU COULD ACTUALLY COMPLETE A PROJECT, MAKE THAT ONE HAPPEN, UH, AND THEN WAIT TO SEE WHAT THE OTHER ONE WOULD DO.
WE GAVE THEM SOME AND SOME SEED MONEY SO THEY COULD START GOING AFTER FUNDS.
WELL, THAT ONE'S STILL, THE GROUND IS STILL SITTING THERE.
UNION TOWERS GETTING READY TO START MOVING PEOPLE IN.
SO, UM, THAT SHOWS PART OF THE COMMITMENT THAT THIS THIS CITY HAS HAD WITH NATIONAL CITY PARK APARTMENTS, AND WE WANT TO CONTINUE THAT.
SO WITH THAT, DITAS, DID YOU HAVE OH, WHEN YOU'RE ON THAT SMALL SCREEN.
THANK YOU, MAYOR, WHEN YOU'RE ON THAT SMALL SCREEN OVER THERE, I CANNOT SEE THAT LITTLE, THE LITTLE HAND.
UM, UH, FULL DISCLOSURE, I HAVE HAD, UH, TWO CALLS FROM, UM, MR. ESTRADA, AJ, APOLOGIZE, SIR, EVERY TIME YOU CALL.
LAST WEEK I WAS TRAVELING, AND THEN THIS WEEK I'M ALSO OUT OF TOWN.
SO, UM, I, I, I, UH, WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT, UH, OF COURSE WE WOULD LIKE TO SUPPORT AND HELP GET THIS, UM, GET THIS LOAN SO THEN YOU CAN GET MORE POINTS IN ORDER FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO GET THE GRANT, UM, AS A, UH, AS A HOUSING, UM, PROVIDER FOR OUR CITY.
I APPRECIATE THE, THE, UM, THE EFFORT AND, AND THE SERVICE THAT YOU BRING TO OUR RESIDENTS IN THIS, UM, IN THIS COMMUNITY.
I WAS JUST, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, TALKING TO, I HAVEN'T HAD THE CHANCE TO, TO, UM, YOU KNOW, ASK THIS QUESTION TO AJ AND TO THE CHIEF BECAUSE I WANTED TO SAY THAT YES, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THIS IS A YOU IMPORTANT COMMUNITY IN OUR, IN OUR, UH, CITY.
UH, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO SUPPORT THIS EFFORT OF, UH, REFURBISHING THE UNITS, UH, 240 UNITS FOR, FOR OUR RESIDENTS IN THAT, IN THAT, UM, IN THE WEST SIDE CORNER OF OUR CITY.
UM, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ASK YOU, I MEAN THE, UH, THE INCIDENT REPORT IN THAT COMMUNITY, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, HOW IS IT, BECAUSE AS A, UH, AS A CITY THAT PROVIDES FOR SERVICES, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE ESSENTIAL SERVICES THAT THE CITY'S PROVIDING TO THIS, UM, TO THIS, UM, COMMUNITY IN ORDER FOR US TO BE, UM, ALSO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, LOOK AT ALL THIS, UM, THIS, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, UM, COSTS THAT WE ARE, THAT WE ARE PROVIDING, UM, TO THIS, UH, TO OUR, YOU KNOW, TO, TO THIS FACILITY.
UM, I JUST, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THAT.
UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT, IT TAKES, UM, MONEY TO MAKE THIS, UH, TO MAKE THIS, UH, REFURBISHING OF ALL THESE UNITS.
UM, BUT I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, I MEAN THE ESSENTIAL SERVICES THAT OUR CITY IS PROVIDING TO THIS, UM, UNITS.
WHAT WAS THAT? WAS THAT A QUESTION? WAS THAT A QUESTION FOR STAFF OR WAS THAT JUST A, A SPECIAL YEAH.
THAT, THAT WOULD BE, UH, A QUESTION TO THE CHIEF.
I THINK SHE'S TALKING ABOUT ME.
WELL, I GUESS YOU'RE ON THE HOT SEAT THEN.
UH, COUNCIL MEMBER YAMANI, WHAT I WILL DO IS I WILL, UH, PULL THE CALLS FOR SERVICE AND ANY CALLS THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE AREA, UM, AND PROVIDE THOSE TO YOU IN THE, UH, NEXT MEETING OR BEFORE THAT I CAN EMAIL 'EM TO YOU.
AND I'M ASKING THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER.
WELL, HE'S NOT CITY MANAGER ANYMORE.
UH, I MAKE A MOTION MAYOR TO APPROVE.
AND, UH, WITH THAT, UNLESS THERE'S ANY DISCUSSION,
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SEEING NONE, CAN WE HAVE ROLL CALL PLEASE? COUNCIL MEMBER YAMANI? UH, AYE.VOTE PASSES FOUR TO ONE WITH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER RODRIGUEZ, RECUSING HIMSELF.
FOUR, ONE OR FOUR ZERO WITH FOUR ZERO.
UM, CONTINUING WITH STAFF REPORTS.
WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF MORE ITEMS HERE AND I THINK WE GETTING CLOSE TO THE END HERE.
[10.2 Acting City Manager Compensation]
TEN TWO IS A RECOMMENDATION FOR A TEMPORARY, UH, BASE SALARY INCREASE.AND, UH, THIS IS FOR, UH, MR. STEVE MANGANELLO STEPPING IN AS ACTING CITY MANAGER.
YES, THERE'S A REPORT, BUT THERE'S A LEGAL REQUIREMENT.
I DON'T WATCH, I JUST, I KNOW THAT MY VOICE IS LOUD ENOUGH TO CARRY.
THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING, BUT NOT THE PUBLIC ENVIRON.
OH, I BET YOU CAN HEAR ME, MR. NIETO.
CAN YOU HEAR ME?
UM, UH, PURSUANT TO SB 7 0 7, WE ARE REQUIRED TO DO A READOUT OF THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS.
UM, THE RECOMMENDATION HERE AND THE ACTION TO BE TAKEN BY THE COUNCIL IS TO APPROVE A TEMPORARY BASE SALARY INCREASE TO $10,615 AND 39 CENTS BIWEEKLY.
DON'T FORGET THE 39 CENTS FOR THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORK CITY ENGINEER STEVE MANGANELLO, UH, EQUAL TO 15% ABOVE HIS CURRENT SALARY RATE WHILE SERVING AS THE ACTING CITY MANAGER.
AND THAT IS EFFECTIVE APRIL 24TH, 2026.
ALRIGHT, NOW WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE? SO, MOVE MR. CHAIR.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
UM, DO WE HAVE ROLL CALL PLEASE? COUNCIL MEMBER MARIA YAMANI.
COUNCIL MEMBER BUSH, I WONDER WHERE HE'S AT.
COUNCIL MEMBER MO OR VICE MAYOR MOLINA? YES.
WE HAVE TO, WE, WE GOT ANOTHER ITEM HERE YET.
IS COUNCIL MEMBER RODRIGUEZ IN THE ROOM? YES.
[10.3 Fiscal Year 2026 Third Quarter Budget Review]
NEXT FOR FISCAL YEAR, OUR 20, UH, 2026 THIRD, UH, QUARTER BUDGET REVIEW.AND THIS ALSO, UH, ALLOWS FOR SOME THIRD QUARTER BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS.
UH, WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE? GOOD EVENING, MAYOR.
BECAUSE WE, WE ALREADY KIND OF, OH, SORRY.
DIDN'T WE ALREADY, THIS PRESENTATION, UH, WAS ALREADY HEARD ON, UH, APRIL 21ST, HOWEVER, A VOTE WAS NOT TAKEN ON THE, UH, RECOMMENDED APPROPRIATIONS REQUEST.
UH, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THE PRESENTATION AGAIN, I CAN GO THROUGH THAT OR I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO.
SO DO WE, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I MOVED TO ACCEPT THE REPORT AND FILE.
ACCEPT THE REPORT AND FILE WITH THE ADJUSTMENTS.
SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
COULD WE HAVE ROLL CALL PLEASE? UH, AND THAT WAS ALSO TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION ENTITLED THE RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
UH, COUNCIL MEMBER YAMANI AYE.
ALRIGHT, WITH THAT THEN WE GO ON TO A CITY MANAGER'S REPORT.
[12. ELECTED OFFICIALS REPORT]
OFFICIALS REPORT.THAT MIC, WE'LL SEE WHO HAD NINE PART PLEASE LET, UH, MEMBER YAMANI NO REPORT.
REALLY WANT TO THANK, UH, STAFF PUBLIC, UH, WORKS AT THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND EVERYONE INVOLVED IN, UH, THIS PAST, UH, SATURDAY.
THE, UM, THE MURAL GATHERING AND PROJECT AND CLOSING IT, UH, OFF, UH, GREAT WORK.
UM, HOPEFULLY WE SEE THE NEXT PHASES, UM, FOR GRAFFITI ABATEMENT AND, UH, PUBLIC ART BEAUTIFICATION.
THERE'S GONNA BE, UH, ANOTHER, A SIMILAR EVENT IN JULY, I THINK JULY 18TH.
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STAY TUNED TO THAT AND JUST WANT TO GIVE A BIG SHOUT OUT TO, UH, MY COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE, UH, DANIEL, UH, GONZALEZ, UH, FOR ALL HIS WORK AND, UH, WORKING WITH, UM, OUR STAFF AND CALTRANS AND GETTING THAT SECURED.TONIGHT, UM, I DO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT WE HAVE, UM, OF COURSE OUR NEW CITY MANAGER, UH, ACTING CITY MANAGER, MR. STEVE MAGNE AND, UH, MR. BRIAN KREPS.
BUT I DO ALSO WANT TO WELCOME, UH, ANOTHER, UH, ACTING DEPUTY CITY MANAGER.
MR. DEREK TI THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, UM, STICKING WITH US AND TAKING THE CALL TO WEAR MULTIPLE HATS AS WE ARE.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE HAD THAT, UH, TREND HERE LATELY.
THANK YOU FOR, UH, STEPPING UP AND HELPING US THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND WELCOME TO THE CMOS OFFICE.
IT'S AN INTERESTING FRONT ROW
ALRIGHT,
AND, UM, WE APPRECIATE EVERYONE KIND OF PUTTING UP WITH US AND AS WE DEAL WITH ALL THESE THINGS OVER THE NEXT FEW WEEKS WITH BUDGET, WITH, UH, CITY MANAGER REVIEWS, WITH THE REGULAR COUNCIL MEETINGS AND EVERY, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, ONE THING AFTER ANOTHER.
SO JUST WANNA LET YOU KNOW THAT WE, UH, WE APPRECIATE AND EVERYONE BEING VERY, VERY ACCOMMODATING AND EVERY, IS WE DEAL WITH ALL OF THE, UH, UM, ALL THE CRAZINESS THAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW.
[13. CITY ATTORNEY REPORT]
THAT, WE ALSO HAVE A CITY ATTORNEY'S REPORT.TODAY THE CITY COUNCIL MET ON ITEM 5.1, ENCLOSED SESSION INVOLVING TWO PACES FROM 4:12 PM TO 5:59 PM ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE PRESENT.
THE COUNCIL TOOK NO REPORTABLE ACTIONS TODAY.
ALRIGHT, AND WITH THAT WE'RE ADJOURNED.