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[Library Board on February 4, 2026.]

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GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY.

IT IS FIVE 30.

I'M GONNA CALL THE EVENING TO ORDER, PLEASE.

STATE ROLL CHAIR.

OCK HERE.

MEMBER LOPEZ.

MEMBER HERE.

MEMBER MCKEE HERE.

AND MEMBER CARONA HERE.

YOU DO HAVE FORM.

AND WE'RE GONNA GO AND INTRODUCE OUR NEW OFFICER MEMBER.

OKAY.

UH, THAT'S MY PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE, UH, RICARDO CARMONA.

UH, HE'S A HIGH SCHOOL HISTORY TEACHER, HAS MOVED BACK TO SAN DIEGO, CAME WITH HIS WIFE AND SOME CHILDREN.

HE HAS FAMILY ON BOTH SIDES OF THE BORDER.

AND IS SPORTS LEARNING MORE ABOUT NATIONAL CITY IN THE LIBRARY? UH, COUNCIL INVITED HIM TO BOARD AS SO WELCOME.

WELCOME.

GOOD WAY TO GET ACQUAINTED WITH NATIONAL CITY.

ALRIGHT, WE GOING TO MOVE ON.

THERE WAS NO COMMENTS RIGHT.

SENT IN.

WE GOING MOVE ON TO CONSENT AGENDA.

AND WILL THAT BE APPROVED? UM, THE AGENDA, THE CONSENT AGENDA? YES.

SECOND.

SECOND.

WOULD YOU SECOND IT TO APPROVE THIS AGENDA? UH, CHAIR AL.

AYE.

MEMBER AYE.

MAYOR MCKEE.

AYE.

ALRIGHT.

ON NEW AND UNFINISHED BUSINESS, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A REPORT ABOUT THE QUESTION PLEASE.

UM, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF ENTHUSIASM.

UH, YOU FOUND OUT THAT, UH, THERE WAS, THERE WOULD BE A, A FRONT FEE AND ALSO A PERCENTAGE CONTROL AND THAT KIND OF YEAH.

RETICENT TO PROCEED WITH IT, EVEN THOUGH I'M SURE IT BE, BUT THAT'S WHERE IT STANDS.

IT, I WOULD SAY THE BATTLE'S NOT OVER, BUT THAT'S WHERE IT STANDS IT NECESSARY.

IS THERE ANY OTHER WAY TO GET PAYMENTS BESIDES THAT YOU COULD, I MEAN, I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE LIKE A WEBSITE THAT THEY GET PAID IT, BUT THERE'S GOTTA BE ANY OTHER WAY.

BECAUSE EVEN WHEN WE VOLUNTEER OR TO REMIND PEOPLE THAT THEY GOTTA BRING CASH, THEY'RE LIKE, OH, I HAVE TO GO WITH CASH.

AND THEY ALWAYS FORGET.

SO THEY HAVE TO RUN TO THE ATM AND THEN THEY DON'T HAVE CHANGE BECAUSE THEY BOUGHT LIKE TWO BOOKS.

YEAH.

.

AND I'M LIKE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO BUY MORE BOOKS 'CAUSE I DON'T HAVE MONEY.

SO IT KINDA PUTS US IN A PICKLE.

I'LL, I'LL BRING THAT UP.

I'LL BRING THAT UP TOO.

I WONDER, ZELLE, IS IT BETTER? THAT'S LINKING, BUT I MEAN, DO WE HAVE, WOULD IT BE, I DON'T KNOW HOW THE ACCOUNT WOULD HAVE TO, IT'S SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT.

WELL, IT'S THROUGH YOUR BANK ACCOUNT.

YEAH.

AND THEN YOU JUST ENTER THE PHONE NUMBER THAT YOU'RE SENDING IT TO.

BUT THEN I DON'T KNOW, THERE'S HOW IT'S REPORTED, LIKE WHAT TYPE OF ACCOUNT? NONPROFIT ACCOUNT, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? THERE'S, SO, I DON'T KNOW.

YEAH.

BUT IT WOULD BE WORTH LOOKING INTO BECAUSE HAVING CASH, ESPECIALLY NOW THAT THERE'S NO PENNIES ANYMORE AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO WITH POINTS.

UM, IT JUST MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT HARDER TO GET PEOPLE TO BUY STUFF.

AND THAT WAS, UH, WAS THERE ANY OTHER UNFINISHED BUSINESS WHERE WE TRY TO TALK ABOUT SOME TECHNOLOGY FIELD? THAT'S STILL ON BACK PART.

OKAY.

HOW ABOUT, UM, THE REPORT? NIKKI? UH, YEAH, THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS.

UM, ONE HIGHLIGHT WHAT WAS ACTUALLY THE NATIONAL LIBRARY WAS ON KPPS.

UH, THERE WAS 71 AND IT WAS ABOUT OUR SCHOOL LIBRARY, UM, AT THE LIBRARY.

UM, IT SHOWCASED, UH, LIBRARY STAFF AND RESIDENT, UH, AND SHOWCASED OUR, OUR TWO COLLECTION.

UH, THE COVERAGE WOULD BE FELT BROADENED, JUST THE EXPOSURE TO A LIBRARY.

UM, AND YOU GUYS CAN FIND IT IF YOU LOOK, UH, IF YOU LOOK UP LOOKING FOR A POLE SAW, THE NATIONAL STATION LIBRARY HAS A COVER.

UH, THIS

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WAS ALEX NEWS', UH, GRANT.

CAUSE HIS BABY MM-HMM .

AND, UH, YEAH, APPLIED FOR THE GRANT.

THE GRANT, EVERYTHING OVER AT NATIONAL CITY IN SAN REALLY RECENTLY.

AND IT'S REALLY THE FIRST TWO LIBRARY SAN TO DO.

YEAH.

SO I FEEL THAT'S TOO, UM, WE DO HAVE TWO PROGRAMS. UH, THE LITERACY PROGRAM RECENTLY LAUNCHED THE NEW CITIZENSHIP CLASSES.

THERE WAS A CHANGE IN THE TEST, A CHANGE FROM A HUNDRED QUESTIONS TO 20.

AND THEN WE NEED TO PASS, UH, 12 OUT OF THE 20 QUESTIONS PROVIDED RATHER THAN SIX OUT OF THE 10.

UH, THAT WAS A BIG DEAL.

JUST 'CAUSE WE DO NEED TO KEEP UP TO DATE WITH THESE STANDARDS.

MM-HMM .

UM, I WOULD SAY REALLY THE WAY THIS NEW GETS ANY FIVE TO 10 PEOPLE PASSING A YEAR, WHICH IS, WHICH IS NICE.

MM-HMM .

UM, THE SECOND PROGRAM THAT WE STARTED DECEMBER IS CALLED CLIENT .

.

YEAH.

IT IS A KNITTING CROCHET CLUB.

UM, IT STARTED ON IN DECEMBER AND IT'S THE FIRST AND THIRD MONDAYS.

UM, SO EVEN WANNA MAYBE DO IT LIKE EVERY MEETING BOARD ACTUALLY.

UM, THERE'S INJURY, BUT IT'S GROWN.

UM, AND YEAH, IT WAS ACTUALLY STARTED BY ONE OF OUR ASSISTANT SAM COOK WITH, UH, OUR REFERENCE WHAT TIME WAS, UH, FIVE TO SIX.

AND THEN WHOVILLE AND KIMBLE HOLIDAY.

SO ON SEVEN SIX FROM ONE 3:00 PM UH, JUST THOSE TWO HOURS, WE DID HAVE 400 ATTENDEES FOR WE BUILT, UH, IT WAS AN AFTERNOON FOR THE CRAFTS MUSIC CANDY AND FOUR .

UH, THE FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY, WE ALSO DID THEIR HOLIDAY OPEN HOUSE AND WE ATE COOKING, DECORATING AND IT WAS VERY POPULAR.

AND SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO DOING NEXT YEAR.

UM, AND THEN FOR THE KIMBALL HOLIDAY, WE HAD A BOOTH AT THE EVENT AND WE HAD OVER TWO NEW PEOPLE VISIT, UH, ASKING ABOUT THE PROGRAMS AND UM, JUST SHARING THE LIBRARY.

WE SOFTWARE, UM, THIS IS GOOD NEWS TO, UM, DID HIRE AN CIRCULATION SUPERVISOR.

HE STARTED YESTERDAY.

HIS NAME'S ARD SANTOS.

HE'S ACTUALLY WORKED AT NATIONAL CITY PUBLIC LIBRARY FOR THE PAST 14 YEARS.

HE EVEN STARTED AT CIRCULATION AND THEN BECAME A ADVISOR TECH.

AND NOW THE SUPERVISOR WORK AT CIRCULATION .

AND WE'RE EXCITED TO SEE LIKE WHAT, WHAT KIND OF IDEAS HE HAS AND HOW TO UPDATE THINGS AND CHANGE THINGS.

SO, UH, YEAH.

AND THEN THE LAST THING IS OUR FAMILY LITERACY PROGRAM.

UM, WE ARE, SO FAMILY LITERACY PROGRAM IS A PROGRAM FOR FAMILIES THAT PROVIDE FOUNDATIONAL AND LEARNING FOR, FOR CHILDREN AND FAMILIES.

UM, , A YOUTUBE VIDEO THAT WE MAKE.

IT USUALLY TOLD ME THAT 30 MINUTES LONG WE PROVIDE COMPREHENSIVE QUESTIONS, CRAFTS.

AND AT THE END OF THE YEAR, ESSENTIALLY EACH FAMILY WILL HAVE 12 BRAND NEW BOOKS.

SO , UH, FOR THIS UPCOMING MONTH, UH, WITH ARTS , THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, WE THINK IT'S GONNA BE ONE OF THE BEST VIDEOS YET.

SO IT'S LIKE THE TOUR OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, MEETING THE FIREFIGHTERS, SEEING THINGS YOU, UM, AND JUST MAKING PEOPLE NOT JUSTLY FAMILIAR WITH WHO.

SO THAT IS GOING OUT, UH, NEXT WEEK AND CURRENTLY WE'RE STARTING WITH 56 FAMILIES IN THAT PROGRAM.

AND YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

MARY, ANY QUESTIONS FOR NIKKI? NO QUESTION.

UM, DON'T THINK WE'VE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT ICE OR DO STAFF HAVE CONCERNS? HAS THERE BEEN ANY TRAINING OR CONVERSATIONS ABOUT? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

QUESTION.

UM, WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD A COUPLE OF PATRONS ASK US ABOUT, UM, IS THAT'S GOING ON.

UM, WE HEARD THERE WAS SOME, THERE WAS SOMETHING HAPPENING NEARBY FROM THE PARK RECENTLY EVEN.

UM, SO THEY ASKED LIKE WHAT THEY SHOULD DO, WHAT'S LIVE'S NOT ALLOWED, UH, INTERESTING QUESTIONS BEING POPPED UP WHERE THEY ASKED IF, UH, WE USED BE USED TO BE OR ARE STILL A SANCTUARY CITY.

YEAH.

AND THEY ASKED IF, SINCE WE ARE, IS THIS, THIS MAKE SENSE? AND I DID ASK, I DIDN'T TELL THEM, NOT I TO FIGURE THAT OUT.

BUT YEAH, IT'S, IT'S DEFINITELY A CONCERN RIGHT NOW.

WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO HOLD A WORKSHOP ON THAT? YEAH, I CAN THAT UP.

I, I, I'M NOT SURE WHO WOULD CONTACT FOR LIKE PROVIDING THE INFORMATION, BUT I I CAN DO IT.

A CLU MIGHT BE ACL U.

THEY WOULD KNOW EXACTLY WHAT LY CAN PEOPLE, THERE'S A, UM, THERE'S AN ORGANIZATION CALLED UNION RIO THAT MM-HMM.

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DOES A LOT OF WORK, UM, AROUND THIS.

UM, I CAN GET YOU THE NAME OF IT THAT I KNOW WE WORK WITH AT CITY COLLEGE THAT DOES TRAININGS, YOU KNOW, HOW TO, HOW TO NAVIGATE ALL THIS STUFF.

BUT PROBABLY BETWEEN THE A CIU AND UNION , YOU CAN GET SOME OTHER CONTACTS.

MM-HMM .

SOME OTHER, YEAH.

I, I IMAGINE THERE'S SOME ANXIETY WITH STAFF ALSO MM-HMM .

UP TO DO I KNOW AS TEACHERS WE FEEL THAT WAY.

.

YEAH.

A LOT OF ANXIETY.

YEAH.

WHAT ACTUALLY ENDED UP HAPPENING WAS, UH, WHEN HAPPENED THAT CAME PARK LAST WEEK, PATRIOTS RAN THAT.

YEAH.

MM-HMM .

BECAUSE THEY KIND START TO MOST FUN AND THAT'S WHEN THE PUSHES IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW WHAT TO DO.

KIND OF CONNECTED TO THAT.

I, I JUST WANNA NOTE, UM, AS FAR AS LIKE MAKING PURCHASES, I KNOW THIS IS A REALLY HARD THING TO NAVIGATE, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE LIBRARY MOVE AWAY FROM PURCHASING FROM AMAZON BECAUSE OF AMAZON'S INVESTMENTS IN ICE AND FOR-PROFIT PRISONS, ET CETERA.

I THINK THERE'S OTHER WAYS TO MAKE PURCHASES, ESPECIALLY LOCALLY, YOU KNOW, AND I UNDERSTAND IT MIGHT BE MORE EXPENSIVE, BUT IF WE CAN SUPPORT LOCAL BUSINESSES, UM, RATHER THAN FEEDING THE GIANT, I WOULD SUPPORT THAT.

YEAH.

PERSONALLY THAT, THAT WOULD BE GOOD.

I KNOW IT, I KNOW IT FEELS LIKE IT'S A BIG THING BECAUSE IT'S SO EASY TO USE AMAZON, BUT I'M SURE A LOT OF PEOPLE DO IT.

A LOT OF ORGANIZATIONS ARE DOING THIS, SO MM-HMM .

DONE.

.

THANK YOU.

ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU NIKKI.

UM, FOR THE FRIENDS, WE ARE, UH, ONCE AGAIN GONNA HAVE OUR WOMEN'S HISTORY EVENT.

IT'S GOING TO BE, UH, SATURDAY, MARCH THE 14TH AT O'CLOCK.

AND UH, THIS YEAR WHAT IT WILL BE IS NOT CONCENTRATING ONLY ON THE WOMEN THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THE MOVEMENT, BUT WOMEN THROUGHOUT THE STREET WILL HAVE MADE AN IMPACT ON THE DEVELOPMENT OUR COUNTRY.

SO KIND OF STILL KEEPING AROUND EXACTLY WHO THAT WOULD BE.

HAVEN'T NAILED IT DOWN EXACTLY YET, BUT IT WAS GOOD TO SEE SO MANY DIFFERENT NAMES COMING UP.

SO THAT WILL BE, UH, ON BOARD.

IT'S USUALLY, SHE'S USUALLY VERY SIMPLE, A FEW SNACKS AND, UH, MUCH CHAGRIN.

SHIRLEY HAS AGREED TO ADDRESS UP, ONCE AGAIN, SUSAN , SHE WAS THINKING SHE COULD RETIRE, THAT SHE'S TOO MUCH LATE MAN.

SO, UH, AND THEN OTHER PEOPLE WILL JUST READ LITTLE SNIPPETS ABOUT.

THAT'S, UM, I ALSO WANTED TO BRING UP TO, UM, AGENDIZE, UH, OFFICE ELECTIONS.

ELECTION OF OFFICERS ELECTION.

THAT IN JANUARY.

IN JANUARY, THINK OF IT IN TIME TO PUT IT ON FEBRUARY AGENDA, BUT IT WILL BE ON THE MARCH AGENDA, THE, IT IS EVERY YEAR.

YOU HAVE MENTIONED OFFICERS.

OFFICERS FOR BEFORE.

YEAH.

MAYOR, SECRETARY.

OH YEAH.

YEAH.

OKAY.

WE WERE SO LATE A YEAR AND A HALF AGO.

WE'RE LIKE LOSING IN JULY, SO FIVE.

SO WE JUST MET FOR THE REST OF THAT YEAR AND THEN THROUGHOUT 25, SO NOW WE'RE NOT QUITE AS FAR INTO 20 BUSINESS 24.

SO WE NEED HOPEFULLY OUR NEXT TIME WE'LL BE RIGHT.

TOPIC.

OKAY.

UM, RICARD, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE SEEN OUR UTILIZE, UH, LIBRARY.

YES.

OH, GOOD.

GLAD WE GOT A TOUR OF THE LIBRARY MORE.

YEAH.

MORE OR LESS.

MORE OR LESS.

OKAY, GOOD.

AUTOMATICALLY SAW THAT, THAT VERY EASY.

OKAY.

AND WELCOME ONCE AGAIN.

AND IT'S GREAT TO SEE EVERYBODY AGAIN.

AND SO I HOPE YOU ALL ENJOYED YOUR VACATION, YOUR TIME OFF, SOME DOWNTIME AND, UH, ANY COMMENTS? I THINK SO, UH, RICARDO,

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ANY COMMENTS? NO, .

OKAY.

WELL THEN WE'RE READY TO ADJOURN THE MEETING.

.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.