Jan 20, 2026 City Council

BEFORE WE, UH, PROCEED, I'D LIKE TO REQUEST THE INTERPRETER TAKE A MOMENT TO EXPLAIN THE CITY'S INTERPRETATION SERVICES THAT WILL BE OFFERED FOR THIS EVENING CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

THE FOLLOWING WILL BE AN ANNOUNCEMENT IN SPANISH.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

THAT, I'D LIKE TO CALL THE MEETING ORDER.

AS A REMINDER, IF WE COULD PLEASE SILENCE ALL CELL PHONES OR ANY OTHER DEVICES IN THE CHAMBER, PLEASE.

THAT WOULD BE MUCH APPRECIATED.

WITH

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

A LIVE WEBCAST OF THE MEETING MAY BE VIEWED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE.

IF YOU ARE WATCHING LIVE VIA ZOOM, VIEWING THE SPANISH VERSION OF THE MEETING, INTERPRETER, UH, INSTRUCTIONS WILL APPEAR IN THE CHAT BOX AT THE BOTTOM OF YOUR SCREEN.

FOR THOSE WHO PREFER TO SIT IN THE CHAMBER, HEADSETS ARE AVAILABLE TO PROVIDE LIVE SPANISH TRANSLATION, PLEASE SEE THE CITY CLERK, UH, DESK OVER HERE TO, UH, CHECK OUT A HEADSET.

THE NOTICE AGENDA AND INFORMATION ON THE CITY OF NASHVILLE CITY'S WEBSITE INFORMS MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, UH, THAT MAY, UH, THAT THEY MAY SUBMIT A GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT OR A PUBLIC COMMENT ON A SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEM IN A NUMBER OF WAYS, EITHER IN PERSON BY FILLING OUT ONE OF THESE SALMON COLORED SLIPS THAT ARE AT THE BACK OF THE CHAMBER OR BY ZOOM, BY PRE-REGISTERING ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE, NO LATER THAN TWO HOURS BEFORE THE MEETING OR EMAILING NO LATER THAN FOUR HOURS BEFORE THE MEETING.

ALL WRITTEN COMMENTS RECEIVED ARE DISTRIBUTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL PRIOR TO THE MEETING AND PUBLISHED ON THE CITY'S, UH, WEBSITE IF RECEIVED BY THE DEADLINE.

WITH THAT, CAN WE HAVE ROLL CALL PLEASE? THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER YAMANI HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER RODRIGUEZ.

PRESENT.

COUNCIL MEMBER BUSH HERE.

WILL YOU PLEASE STAND FOR STAND? AND I'LL HAVE, UH, MEMBER YAMANI, IF YOU WOULD LEAD US.

DO WE HAVE, DO WE HAVE A MEMBER OF THE OKAY.

WE DO HAVE.

READY? BEGIN.

I PLEDGE THE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY.

JUSTICE FOR PLEASE REMAIN STANDING.

OUR, OUR DISTINGUISHED FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER.

MY NAME IS ALBERT MANDEVILLE.

I REPRESENT THE NATIONAL CITY CLERGY ASSOCIATION.

PLEASE, PLEASE BOW YOUR HEARTS WITH ME.

I'LL OPEN IN PRAYER.

HEAVENLY FATHER, LORD, FIRST OF ALL, WE JUST ASK FOR YOU TO BLESS THE MAYOR, THE CITY COUNCIL, THE STAFF, AND EVERYTHING THEY DO BEFORE THE MEETING, DURING THE MEETING, AFTER THE MEETING.

FATHER, FATHER, WE COME BEFORE YOU TO ASK FOR PEACE AND LOVE IN THIS ROOM.

BUT YOUR, YOUR WORD TELLS US THAT WHEN TWO OR MORE COME TOGETHER IN YOUR NAME, THAT YOU WERE IN THE MIDST.

SO WE WELCOME YOU HERE, FATHER GOD, WE PRAY, LORD, THAT EVERY DISCUSSION, EVERY DECISION IS GUIDED BY YOUR LOVE.

MAY YOUR LOVE PERMEATE THIS ROOM.

JUST FILL THIS ROOM WITH YOUR LOVE, LORD.

AND WE JUST ASK THIS IN JESUS' NAME.

AMEN.

WE HAVE, UH, WE GO INTO, UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THIS, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, AND LET'S ALLOW TIME WE GOT HERE.

WITH THAT,

[5. PUBLIC COMMENT]

WELL, UH, TWO MINUTES PER, PER INDIVIDUAL, YOU THAT.

AND LET'S GO WITH, UH, UH, RAY JUAREZ, FOLLOWED BY PERHA.

JAVIER.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR.

COUNCIL, STAFF.

UM, MY NAME IS RAYMOND.

RAYMOND JUAREZ.

I LIVE AT 10 30 DELTA STREET, NATIONAL CITY, UH, BETWEEN HIGHLAND AVENUE AND PALM AVENUE.

AND I'M HERE TODAY TO, UH, COUPLE

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THINGS.

WELL, I THINK THE MAIN THING IS TO COMMUNICATE WHAT'S GOING ON AS TO MY, UH, MY SITUATION AT THAT, AT THAT ADDRESS.

UH, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS REMEMBER THE, UH, JANUARY 22ND, 24, UH, FLOODING, UH, HAD 10 FEET OF WATER IN ABOUT 10 MINUTES.

AND, UH, TIME HAS PASSED.

AND, UH, REALLY THERE HAS NOT BEEN ANY SOLVING OF THIS PROBLEM.

UH, EVERY TIME I, WE GET WATER, ANY KIND OF RAIN, WE HAVE THE, WE HAVE A SWIMMING POOL EFFECT THAT HAPPENS AT 10 30 DELTA.

AND, UH, THE NEIGHBORS 10 40.

AND, UM, MY CONCERN IS THAT, UH, I DON'T THINK THE RAIN'S GOING AWAY.

I I THINK IT'S GONNA CONTINUE TO BE RAIN, AND IT MIGHT EVEN GET MAYBE SOME MORE.

SO, UH, I'M TRYING TO LOOK AND TRYING TO SEE SOME DIRECTION AS TO WHAT CAN BE DONE TO ATE THIS.

NOW, THERE IS AN EASEMENT THERE THAT, UH, THAT I COME TO THE, UH, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, AND THEY SAY THAT IT'S THERE.

THEY HAVE A SEWER DRAIN, BUT THERE'S NOT A DRAIN DRAIN.

AND, UH, I KNOW THERE'S ONE THERE BECAUSE I REMEMBER WHEN THEY PUT IT IN AND THEY SAW IT.

AND, UH, LIKE I SAID, THE WATER COMES IN REALLY FAST AND, AND IT, IT, IT, IT RAISES AND THE WATER ACTUALLY STARTS COMING INTO OUR PROPERTY AND INTO WHERE MY, MY LIVING QUARTERS IS AT.

AND, UH, I HAVE ASKED FOR ASSISTANCE.

AND, UM, I'M WAITING BACK FOR SOME ANSWERS.

AND SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, YOU GOTTA, IF YOU, IF THE MOUNTAIN DON'T COME TO YOU, YOU GOTTA GO TO THE MOUNTAINS.

AND THIS IS THE MOUNTAIN HERE.

SO I'M HERE.

PARDON? THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT.

YOUR TIME'S EXPIRED.

OH, YES.

OH, OKAY.

WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU AGAIN.

EXCUSE ME, MS. MAYOR, CAN I JUST SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. RAY, UM, FOR, FOR COMING OUT.

I KNOW THIS IS AN ISSUE YOU'VE BEEN DEALING WITH FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.

I'VE EXPRESSED TO STAFF TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON THIS ISSUE.

CAN WE PLEASE, UM, MAKE SURE THAT THE EASEMENT IS PROPERLY MAINTAINED AND HOPEFULLY, UM, UH, 'CAUSE I KNOW THAT THIS JUST A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, IT WAS ALSO FLOODED.

AND IT WAS A LIGHT RAIN.

SO, UM, IT IS VERY TRAUMATIZING FOR A LOT OF OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS, AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN RESOLVE THIS ISSUE.

THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.

NEXT WE HAVE, UH, BARITA, JAVIER AND CESAR SHOUT.

JAVIER, YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES.

HI, I AM FAR JAVIER SENIOR WITH EXISTING MEDICAL CONDITION AND VICTIM OF CERAMICS COUNT TOXICITY SINCE 1984.

FROM NEXT DOOR BUSINESS, WE THRIVE LIVE IN FEAR.

WE HAVE TWO OBJECTIVES.

SARAH'S MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

NUMBER ONE, TO SHARE OUR LESSON AS SENIORS AND HAS PAYERS, BUT THAT, UH, HAZARDOUS BUSINESS OR NOT, UM, NOT MUST NOT BE LOCATED, CONSTRUCTED, AND OPERATED IN A RESIDENTIAL ZONE.

COMMUNITY.

NUMBER TWO, TO SEEK HELP FROM THE HONORABLE MAYOR OF NEW MEMBERS OF THE GOVERNING BOARD, AIR POLLUTION CONTROL DISTRICT, SPECIFICALLY ON POLICY CHAINS OF A PCD CODE RULE.

ALL WHERE 20 IN A STRAW AND MANUFACTURING BUSINESS ARE EXEMPT FROM PORTRAIT OR PERMIT.

ONE OF THESE POLLUTING ACTIVITIES IS PARAGRAPH EIGHT, HOLD RULE 11, AND CERAMICS GOWN COUNT RATHER FIRED BY WHAT NEXT TIME.

PURITA.

YOU SPEAK IN TAGALOG.

LIKE FILIPINO LANGUAGE.

ANYWAY, WE HAVE INTERPRETER.

NO .

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THIS IS THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER.

FOR FIVE YEARS, THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO, THE COUNTY AND THE AIR POLLUTION CONTROL DISTRICTS, WHICH ARE ACCOUNTABLE FOR THIS, HAVE NOT ACTED.

THEY REMAIN SILENT, AND THEY SILENCE ME AND MY WIFE NOT TO ENTER THE CITY HALL BECAUSE WE ARE TELLING THE TRUTH.

WE ARE HURT PHYSICALLY, MENTALLY, AND FINANCIALLY AS WE ROAM AROUND AND SEE THE PROCESSES IN GOVERNANCE, IF ONLY TO SEARCH OR LOOK AT THAT NEEDS SOLUTION OF OUR COMMUNITY ISSUE.

WE HAVE TWO KNOWN SITES IN THE DISTRICT NINE KENSINGTON COMMUNITY, AND THAT WEST BANK OF CITY HEIGHTS WHERE WE LIVE.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIR OF THE GOVERNING BOARD, A PCD.

AFTER FIVE YEARS, A GOVERNING BOARD MEMBER WHO VOLUNTEERED TO BE THE CHAIR OF THE GOVERNING BOARD, A PCD HAS COME FINALLY, HOPEFULLY.

AND WE PRAY THAT THIS IS NOW THE STARTING POINT IN ABATING MOVING THE FACILITY.

IF HE WANTED TO HAVE THAT JOB IN A SEPARATE PLACE, WE CALL INDUSTRIAL ZONE, LIKE MANY OF THESE CERAMICS STUDIOS, OR SHALL WE SAY, UH, BUSINESS, WE DO NOT WANT HONORABLE MAYOR AND DISTRICT COUNSELOR TO HAVE THIS EMISSION NEXT DOOR IN YOUR COMMUNITY.

BRING THIS TO SHARING.

IT'S BACK.

IT KILLED MANY PEOPLE TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH, SINCE 1994.

THANK YOU FOR THIS HONOR AND WILL BE COMING UNTIL OUR CHAIR COUNSELOR BUSH WILL SOLVE THE ISSUE.

THAT'S A CHALLENGE, SIR.

THANK YOU FOR VISITING US.

OKAY, NEXT WE HAVE, UH, KAREN MCMANUS TO BE FOLLOWED BY ANGELITA PALMER.

GOOD EVENING AND HAPPY NEW YEAR FROM THE NA CITY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.

MY NAME IS KAREN AKAR MCMANUS, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.

AS WE, AS WE REFLECT, I'M PROUD OF OUR, WHAT OUR NATIONAL CITY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE HAS ACCOMPLISHED THIS YEAR.

LAST YEAR, WE STRENGTHENED LOCAL BUSINESSES THROUGH NETWORKING EVENTS, WORKSHOPS, AND SOCIAL MEDIA AND WELCOMING MEMBERSHIP GROWTH, OUR EVENTS CONNECTED ENTREPRENEURS, NONPROFITS, AND RESIDENTS GENERATING COLLABORATION AND OPPORTUNITY ACROSS OUR CITY.

HERE ARE A FEW HIGHLIGHTS WHERE I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND THE GREAT WORK THAT WE'RE DOING AT THE CHAMBER.

WE HAD OVER 100 BUSINESS VISITS.

THAT MEANS THAT WE VISITED OVER A HUNDRED VISITS, VISITS TO CHECK ON THEM AND SEE WHAT, WHAT WE CAN DO TO SERVICE THEM.

WE HAD OVER 900 ATTENDEES AT OUR MIXERS, OVER 75 ONE-ON-ONE MEETINGS WITH OUR MEMBERS.

THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE'RE LISTENING TO WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE.

WE HAD OVER 66 NEW CHAMBER MEMBERS JOINING US, NOT ONLY FROM NATIONAL CITY, BUT THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.

WE INCREASED OUR MEMBERSHIP TO 415 MEMBERS.

SEEMED SLOW, BUT IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A GREAT START TO OUR FUTURE HERE.

WE HAD OVER 230 SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS.

OVER 180 LOCAL JOBS WERE POSTED ONLINE.

AND WE LAUNCHED 96 NEWSLETTER NEWSLETTERS.

AND WE GREW OUR SOCIAL MEDIA FOLLOWING TO 10,000 CHAMBER MEMBERS.

AND WE ALSO INITIATED THE AMBASSADOR PROGRAM.

AND WHAT THAT IS, IS THAT WHEN A NEW BUSINESS COMES TO TOWN, THE CHAMBER, WE CALL 'EM THE RED COATS, YOU MAY HAVE SEEN US AT THIS, UH, SAN YID OPENING, IS WE'RE THERE TO WELCOME THEM AND TO ALSO LET THEM KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO, ASK 'EM TO DO WHAT WE, WHAT WE CAN DO TO HELP THEM.

AND NOT TO MENTION, WE HOSTED THE SALUTE TO NAVY VETERANS CEREMONY.

WE LAUNCHED A DELISH NATIONAL CITY INSTAGRAM, WHICH HIGHLIGHTS ALL OF OUR LOCAL EATERIES.

AND WE STARTED THE FARMER'S MARKET, WHICH WILL RETURN IN SPRING AND THE NATIONAL CITY SALUTE TO VETERANS PARADE.

THAT WAS AWESOME.

SO THANK YOU.

SO THANK YOU TO THE CITY OF NASHVILLE CITY FOR INVESTING IN OUR SHARED FUTURE.

WE LOOK AHEAD WITH MOMENTUM, UNITY, UNITY AND CONFIDENCE, ALWAYS TOGETHER.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

GOOD EVENING MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AND STAFF ANGELITA PALMA, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT MANAGER WITH THE NATIONAL CITY HOUSING AUTHORITY.

ANGELITA PALMA TO BE FOLLOWED BY, UH, JULIANA ARMA.

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THE UNION TOWER DEVELOPMENT INTEREST LIST WILL BE OPENING UP TOMORROW, JANUARY 21ST.

UH, THE ANTICIPATED CLOSING DATE OF THE INTEREST LIST WILL BE MARCH 13TH.

THERE'LL BE TWO ESTABLISHED LIST.

THERE'LL BE ONE INTEREST LIST FOR NATIONAL CITY APPLICANTS.

UH, WE WILL FOLLOW OUR LOCAL PREFERENCE POLICY, MEANING IF YOU LIVE IN NATIONAL CITY, YOU'LL BE PRIORITIZED IN ONE LIST.

THE SECOND LIST WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR ALL OTHER HOUSEHOLDS THAT WILL JOIN THE INTEREST LIST.

SO BETWEEN NOW AND THE CLOSING DATE OF THE INTEREST LIST, IF YOU SIGN UP FIRST OR LAST ON THIS INTEREST LIST, YOU'LL BE PART OF A LOTTERY PROCESS TO BE SELECTED AS A HOUSEHOLD TO APPLY.

SO THE UNION TOWER DEVELOPMENT LOCATED AT 2312 F STREET IN NATIONAL CITY IS ONE OF OUR NEW AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS.

FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW, UH, IT'S A PROJECT WEBPAGE ON OUR WEBSITE AT, YOU CAN FIND IT AT NATIONAL CITY CA DOT GO B DASH HA DASH PROJECTS.

SO IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THIS DEVELOPMENT, IT IS, UH, ONE OF OUR, AGAIN, NEW AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS WITH ONE, TWO, AND THREE BEDROOM APARTMENTS WITH AFFORDABLE UNITS RANGING FROM 30 TO 60% OF OUR A MI.

AND TO REMIND EVERYONE, UH, WHAT OUR A MI IS, IT'S OUR AREA MEDIAN INCOME FOR CITY, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT $62,500 FOR A FAMILY OF FOUR.

YOU COULD JOIN THE INTEREST LIST@UNIONTOWERAPARTMENTS.COM.

IF I COULD, THEN JUST CLOSE, LEMME JUST LET HER FINISH OFF THAT SENTENCE WITH, UM, LETTING EVERYONE KNOW TO JOIN THE INTEREST LIST.

UH, WE WILL HAVE A FORMAL PRESENTATION ON FEBRUARY 3RD BY THE DEVELOPER WAKELAND HOUSING AND DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

MAYOR, MAY I ASK A QUESTION? YES.

UM, ANGELITA, HOW MANY UNITS WILL BE RELEASED, UM, FOR THIS PHASE ONE? SO THERE'S ONE PHASE OF THIS PROJECT.

THERE'S 94 UNITS TOTAL, SO ALL 94 WILL BE RELEASED ALREADY BY NEXT WEEK.

AND, UH, SO IT WON'T BE RELEASED BY NEXT WEEK, BUT TOMORROW THE INTEREST LIST WILL OPEN UP.

I MEAN, I MEAN, THE INTEREST LIST WILL BE RELEASED RIGHT, FOR ALL 94 UNITS FOR THE, UH, UNITS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO NATIONAL CITIES.

SO 22 OF THE UNITS ARE, UH, SET ASIDE FOR VETERANS WHO HAVE, WHO ARE GOING TO RECEIVE A VASH VOUCHER THROUGH THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO.

SO IN ORDER TO GET THIS PROJECT FUNDED, UH, THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO CAME THROUGH WITH PROJECT BASED, UH, VOUCHERS TO, UM, TO WAKELAND.

AND HOW'S OUR OUTREACH TO OUR RESIDENTS HERE? SO WE, TO OUR TENANTS, WE DO HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE OUTREACH PLAN THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPER, UH, WITH, UH, WE'LL POST MORE INFORMATION ONLINE, SO, UH, WE CAN FIND THAT, UH, ONLINE.

WE ALSO, UM, SO WE'LL HAVE A PRESS RELEASE.

WE DO HAVE FLYERS IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH THAT ARE AVAILABLE TODAY, UH, FRONT AND BACK.

WE HAVE POSTER BOARDS, UH, OUT IN THE LOBBY OF CITY HALL.

UH, WE CAN EMAIL POWERPOINTS TO ANY OF OUR COMMUNITY, UH, BASED PARTNER ORGANIZATIONS IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO, UM, HAVE A PRESENTATION OR IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO GET INFORMATION OUT TO THEIR ORGANIZATIONS.

WE'LL ALSO, UM, BE WORKING WITH A LOT OF OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS, UM, INDIVIDUALLY, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR RESIDENTS ARE OUTREACH AS WELL AS OUR, OUR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, BECAUSE WE WANNA DO A LOT OF GRA GRASS REACH ORGANIZATION, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR RESIDENTS ARE ASSISTED.

AND ALSO, OF COURSE, WE ARE ASKING OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO DO THAT ONE-ON-ONE KIND OF ASSISTANCE WITH OUR RESIDENTS.

THANK YOU, MS. ANGELITA, THANK YOU FOR YOUR DILIGENCE ON THIS PROJECT.

I APPRECIATE, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

ALRIGHT, MAYOR, I HAVE A, JUST A QUESTION.

YOU MENTIONED FEBRUARY 3RD, UH, THE DEVELOPERS WAKELAND WERE TO DO A PRESENTATION.

IS IT HERE AT COUNCIL AT THE, UH, YES.

THERE WILL BE A CITY COUNCIL PRESENTATION.

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THAT, THAT REPORT COULD HAVE WENT AT THE END OF THE MEETING UNDER STAFF REPORTS, BUT ASKED ANGELINA TO DO IT UPFRONT.

SO MORE PEOPLE GET A CHANCE TO ACTUALLY HEAR THAT ONE, BECAUSE EVERYONE'S BEEN WAITING ON THAT.

SO HELP GET THE WORD OUT THAT MUCH BETTER.

ALL RIGHT.

ON MENTO, FOLLOWED BY DELISE VAUGHN.

AND COLLABORATION BUILDS STRONGER COMMUNITIES.

GOOD EVENING.

UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS AND EVERYBODY UP HERE ON THE DAAS.

IT'S, UH, 2026.

SO I THINK IT'S, UH, TRULY A TIME TO, UM, RISE, BRIGHTER, STRONGER, AND MORE UNITED THIS YEAR.

CITIES DON'T CHANGE BY CHANCE.

THEY CHANGE WHEN PEOPLE CHOOSE TO WORK TOGETHER.

THAT RESPONSIBILITY BELONGS TO ALL OF US.

FROM THOSE OF YOU IN THE DIOCESE, TO EVERY SINGLE NEIGHBOR THAT IS WATCHING AT HOME.

NATIONAL CITY BORDERS THE LARGEST NAVAL BASE IN THE COUNTRY, OR ONE OF THE LARGEST NAVAL BASES IN THE COUNTRY.

AND THAT GIVES US BOTH AN OPPORTUNITY AND A RESPONSIBILITY.

WE SHOULD BE A CITY THAT WELCOMES YOUNG SAILORS THAT WANT TO START FAMILIES, VETERANS TRANSITIONING INTO CIVILIAN LIFE, AND NEIGHBORS LOOKING FOR STABILITY AND HOPE.

WE DON'T SEE THAT VERY, VERY MUCH HERE IN NATIONAL CITY.

AND I DO WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY, IF THEY EVER SEE A VETERAN IN NEED AND NEEDS FOOD GUIDANCE OR SIMPLY SOMEONE TO LISTEN, PLEASE SEND THEM OVER TO POST 2 5 5.

WITH THAT, I WANT TO OFFER A HEARTFELT THANK YOU TO THE MAYOR, TO COUNCILMAN BUSH, TO OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT AND OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR MAKING OUR AMERICAN LEG AMERICAN LEGION RIDERS POST 2 5, 5, BIG CASE FOURTH ANNUAL CHRISTMAS RIDE.

REALLY SPECIAL TO ALL THE SPECIAL NEEDS KIDS AT GRANGER JUNIOR HIGH.

THAT IS WHAT REAL COLLABORATION LOOKS LIKE.

A SPECIAL THANK YOU ALSO TO THE CITY STAFF WHO ALWAYS WORKS TIRELESSLY BEHIND THE SCENES.

DURING CHRISTMAS TIME, I REACHED OUT TO MISS ANGELITA.

SHE'S STILL HERE, UH, FROM THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THROUGH HER COMPASSION AND PROFESSIONALISM, SHE WAS ABLE TO HELP PROVIDE SOME RESOURCES TO TWO HOMELESS MOTHERS THAT WERE LIVING IN THEIR CARS WITH THEIR CHILDREN.

NO CHILD SHOULD EVER HAVE TO ASK SANTA CLAUS FOR A BED TO SLEEP IN THAT MOMENT.

REMINDED ME THAT POLICY BECOMES MEANINGFUL WHEN PEOPLE ACT WITH HEART.

AND OUR CITY STAFF DOES THAT EVERY DAY.

THANK YOU TO OUR COMMUNITY DONORS AND PARTNERS WHO GENEROUSLY HELP POSE 2, 5, 5 MEMBERS, ESPECIALLY THOSE ON LIMITED INCOMES OUR OLDER VETERANS GET THROUGH THE HOLIDAYS WITH DIGNITY.

WE'LL DO BETTER THIS YEAR.

UH, DELISE THERE.

SHE'S BE FOLLOWED BY WENDY EGAN.

GOOD EVENING.

UH, MY NAME'S DELISE VAN AND I WANTED TO SAY THAT THE INCLUSIVE KIDS NETWORK HAS STARTED THEIR PROGRAM.

UM, THANKS TO WENDY EGAN.

UH, YEAH.

SO WE STARTED A PROGRAM FOR CHILDREN, UH, WITH SPECIAL NEEDS AND ALL CHILDREN IN NATIONAL CITY.

UH, IT WAS A GREAT TURNOUT.

UH, WE HAD ABOUT 15 CHILDREN SHOW UP, UM, AND WE DID A LOT OF WORK WITH THEM, UH, JUST TO SEE, UH, WHAT CAPACITIES WE COULD HAVE CHILDREN.

AND SO FAR IT WAS, UH, WE HAD TO TURN PEOPLE AWAY, ACTUALLY.

UM, SO WE WERE HOPING TO TALK ABOUT, UH, SPACE FOR, UM, INCLUSIVE KIDS NETWORK IN NATIONAL CITY.

WENDY EGAN BE FOLLOWED BY EDWARDO.

AGAIN.

WE'RE ALSO GOING TO FOCUS ON SOMETHING JUST AS IMPORTANT.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

HAPPY NEW YEAR.

AND THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU GUYS DO, EVERYBODY.

I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT TO SHARE A QUICK UPDATE AND HOPE FOR THIS COMING YEAR.

THIS PAST SATURDAY INCLUSIVE KIDS NETWORK HELD OUR OPEN HOUSE AND OUR FIRST SAN ART IN PLAY FOR 2026.

AND WE WERE AT CAPACITY, LIKE WE HAD TO TURN AWAY.

PARENTS, LIKE ELISE MENTIONED, UM, THAT SHOWED US SOMETHING IMPORTANT.

THE NEED IS REAL.

FAMILIES ARE LOOKING FOR SELF WELCOMING, INCLUSIVE SPACES FOR THEIR CHILDREN.

WE ARE STILL ACTIVELY LOOKING FOR PERMANENT SPACE.

A PLACE WE CAN CALL HOME WHERE WE CAN BUILD AN INDOOR SENSORY PLAYGROUND AND AN INCLUSIVE RECREATION CENTER FOR ALL KIDS IN NATIONAL CITY.

IN 2026, INCLUSIVE KIDS NETWORK IS GOING TO STAY FOCUSED ON OUR MISSION, CREATING INCLUSIVE ACTIVITIES FOR CHILDREN AND FAMILIES, BRINGING IN RESOURCES AND MAKING SURE EVERY CHILD FEELS LIKE THEY BELONG.

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KINDNESS.

WE WANNA HELP SEND A CLEAR MESSAGE TO OUR KIDS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

NATIONAL CITY SAYS NO TO BULLIES AND YES TO KINDNESS.

WE WON'T TOLERATE BULLYING.

AND WE WANT TO BE A CITY THAT LEADS COMPA WITH COMPASSION, RESPECT, AND EMPATHY.

AND FOR ANYONE WHO MAY BE STRUGGLING OR WANT TO DO BETTER, WE WANNA INVITE YOU TO BE A PART OF THE SOLUTION.

SERVE YOUR COMMUNITY, VOLUNTEER, DONATE MONEY FOR OUR KIDS, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, BE KIND.

CHANGE STARTS WITH ACTION, NOT BY BULLYING.

THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME, YOUR LEADERSHIP, AND FOR CONTINUING TO SUPPORT, UH, NATIONAL CITY WHERE ALL KIDS BELONG.

AND WE NEED SPACE, OKAY? WE NEED COMMUNITY SPACE.

AND I KNOW WE HAVE THE SPACE HERE.

WE JUST NEED IT TO NOT BE SO HARD, YOU KNOW, FOR US TO CREATE AN INCLUSIVE SPACE FOR OUR KIDS, FOR ALL KIDS, ESPECIALLY THOSE WITH SPECIAL NEEDS.

THANK YOU, WENDY.

EDWARD NETTO BE FOLLOWED BY SHERRY GOGI.

HAPPY NEW YEAR'S, BUT UNFORTUNATELY WE ONLY HAVE FIVE MONTHS LEFT FOR THE FISCAL YEAR.

, WHAT CAN I SAY, .

SO TIME IS CLICKING.

SO WHAT I WANT TO GET TO YOUR CLOSING REMARKS ON THE LAST FISCAL LAST, UH, FISCAL, UH, REPORT WE HAD IN THE LAST MEETING BY BRUCE.

UH, BRUCE DID AN AMAZING JOB.

I THOUGHT BRUCE EXPLAINED THAT THE LARGE, THE LARGE SWING BETWEEN THE BUDGET AND ACTUALS AND ONE OF THE FINANCIAL REPORT HAD TO DO WITH THE UNDERLYING REASON, WITH THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND WAS CAUSED BY THE CITY'S PRACTICE, PAST PRACTICE OF ENCUMBERING THE FULL VALUE OF MULTIPLE YEAR CONTRACTS IN ONE SINGLE YEAR.

AND YOU ALL KNOW THAT? YEAH.

WELL, NOT, I DON'T THINK KNOW IF YOU KNOW THAT, BUT YOU UNDERSTAND THE EFFECTS OF WHAT THAT HAPPENED.

IT WAS A ONE.

THIS IS, THIS IS NOT A ONE TIME MISTAKE.

IT WAS A PRACTICE THAT NEEDED TO BE CORRECTED.

YOU KNOW? AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM, IF YOU DON'T, IF YOU CAN'T, IF, IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEM IS, YOU CAN'T RECOGNIZE, I MEAN, IF YOU DON'T RECOGNIZE IT, YOU CAN'T MAKE THE CORRECTIONS.

SO, AND YOU NEED THAT INFORMATION TO HAVE ACCURATE INFORMATION TO MAKE, UH, SURE YOU HAVE RIGHT DECISIONS.

SO THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.

SO MY QUESTION IS, THIS IS THE MOST CONCERNING PART OF THE DISCUSSION WAS THE LACK OF QUESTIONS.

I THOUGHT THE LACK OF QUESTIONS AS FAR AS WHY WASN'T THIS DISCOVERED BEFORE? WHY WASN'T THIS IDENTIFIED? YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I DIDN'T HEAR YOU GUYS TALK ABOUT THAT.

YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IF YOU DON'T FIX A MISTAKE, WHY WASN'T IT ANALYZED SOONER? WHY DIDN'T THE AUDITORS CATCH THIS? ISN'T THAT IN THEIR, IN THEIR PURVIEW? YOU WOULD, WOULDN'T YOU THINK SO? I MEAN, LOTS OF SETS OF EYES HAVE BEEN, WE'RE LOOKING, YOUR, YOUR EYES SHOULD HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT IT.

THE CITY MANAGER'S EYES SHOULD HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT IT.

AND WHOEVER IT WAS AT THE TIME, ALEX SAID, .

AND FINANCE MANAGERS, YOU'VE HAD A BIG TURNOVER IN THOSE AREAS.

SO THIS IS THE EFFECT OF WHAT'S HAPPENING.

THESE TYPE OF MISTAKES IS WHAT'S HAPPENING.

WHAT I WANNA DO IS HOPEFULLY YOU DON'T MAKE THOSE MISTAKES ANYMORE.

IT'S THE RESTAURANT COMMITTEE.

SHERRY YOGI, I, GOOD EVENING MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER, STAFF, AND EVERYBODY ELSE IS HERE.

MY NAME IS SOYA GOGI AND I'M ON HERE TONIGHT ON BEHALF OF THE NATIONAL CINDY CHAMBER.

I CHAIR A VERY IMPORTANT PART IN THE CHAMBER.

DO YOU GUYS KNOW WE HAVE OVER 200 RESTAURANTS RIGHT HERE IN NATIONAL CITY? I DO.

YEAH, ME TOO.

MY WIFE.

WE'RE WORKING ON THAT.

WE ARE, HAVE A PLAN TO BRING THE TASTE OF NATIONAL CITY HERE.

AND WE'RE DOING IT ONE RESTAURANT AT A TIME, ONE WEEK AT A TIME.

SO MARK YOUR CALENDARS.

FRIDAYS NOON TIME, YOU'RE FREE.

REACH OUT TO ME.

I'LL TELL YOU WE'RE GONNA GO.

'CAUSE THIS IS A SURPRISE.

WE ARE VISITING A DIFFERENT RESTAURANT EVERY FRIDAY AND WE ARE PUTTING ON THEM ON OUR INSTAGRAM PAGE, THE LIST.

SO EVERYBODY SEES THIS.

AND WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF LIKES AND A LOT OF PEOPLE GO INTO THESE RESTAURANTS.

WE'RE ALSO HIGHLIGHTING ONE DIFFERENT RESTAURANT EVERY MONTH AND HOLDING A MIXER AT THAT RESTAURANT FOR NETWORKING AND ALL THAT.

AND IT BRINGS EVERYBODY TO SEE WHAT WE HAVE HERE.

OUR MOTTO IS FLAVOR WITHOUT BO BORDERS, RIGHT

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HERE IN NATIONAL CITY.

WE HAVE EVERY KIND OF RESTAURANT YOU CAN IMAGINE, AND WE WANT EVERYBODY TO GO.

SO IF YOU HAVE A FAVORITE RESTAURANT AND YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THEM, THEM FEATURED ON OUR SITE, LET ME KNOW BECAUSE WE'RE GOING, WE WE'RE LIKE BOOKED OUT LIKE SIX WEEKS.

BUT WE SURPRISE EVERYBODY ON A FRIDAY.

SO I JUST WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE OUT THERE AND WE'RE HELPING OUR RESTAURANTS ACHIEVE WHAT WE CAN DO.

WE HELP THEIR MARKETING AND EVERYTHING, AND WE WANT YOU GUYS TO HELP THEM TOO.

ALRIGHT, WE'LL NOW GO TO OUR ZOOM.

WE HAVE IN OUR 30 MINUTES, WE HAVE, UH, TIME FOR TWO PROBABLY ON THAT.

THE REST OF 'EM WILL HAVE TO GO TO THE END.

UH, MY NAME IS BECKY RAPP.

I'M A PUBLIC HEALTH EDUCATOR.

AND LIKE I'D LIKE TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION SOME IMPORTANT PEER REVIEWED SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH THAT RECENTLY HIGHLIGHTED IN THE AMERICAN JOURNAL OF PSYCHIATRY, UH, ONE OF THE NATION'S LEADING MEDICAL JOURNALS.

THE RESEARCH REINFORCES THAT THE HUMAN BRAIN CONTINUES DEVELOPING APPROXIMATELY UNTIL THE AGE OF 25.

DURING ADOLESCENCE AND YOUNG ADULTHOOD, THE BRAIN REGIONS RESPONSIBLE FOR JUDGMENT, IMPULSE CONTROL, AND EMOTIONAL REGULATION ARE STILL FORMING AND EXPOSURE TO PSYCHOACTIVE SUBSTANCES DURING THIS DEVELOPMENTAL PERIOD CAN HAVE CONSEQUENTIAL RISK.

THE AMERICAN JOURNAL OF PSYCHIATRY SUMMARIZES DECADES OF CLINICAL AND NEUROBIOLOGICAL RESEARCH SHOWING THAT MARIJUANA EXPOSURE DURING BRAIN DEVELOPMENT CAN ALTER BRAIN STRUCTURE AND FUNCTION EARLY AND FREQUENT USES ASSOCIATED WITH A HIGHER RISK OF ADDICTION, ANXIETY, DEPRESSION, PSYCHOSIS, AND LONG-TERM COGNITIVE EFFECTS.

THESE RISKS ARE COMPOUNDED BY TODAY'S HIGH POT CTHC PRODUCTS, WHICH ARE FAR STRONGER THAN THOSE STUDIED IN THE PAST.

AS MARIJUANA BECOMES INCREASINGLY NORMALIZED, YOUTH AND YOUNG ADULTS ARE OFTEN EXPOSED TO MISLEADING OR ENTICING MESSAGING, INCLUDING BILLBOARDS AND OTHER FORMS OF ADVERTISING THAT MINIMIZE THE RISK WHILE EMPHASIZING THE APPEAL.

THIS CREATES A DISCONNECT BETWEEN WHAT THE SCIENCE SHOWS AND WHAT YOUNG PEOPLE ARE LED TO BELIEVE.

I ENCOURAGE THE CITY TO PRIORITIZE PREVENTION EDUCATION THAT IS ACCURATE, AGE APPROPRIATE, AND GROUNDED IN PEER REVIEWED SCIENCE, AND CONTINUE EXAMINING POLICIES RELATED TO MARIJUANA ADVERTISING THAT MAY UNINTENTIONALLY PROMOTE USE AMONG THE DEVELOPING BRAIN.

THANK YOU BARBARA GORDON.

UM, GOOD EVENING.

UM, I WANT TO RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF IMPAIRED DRIVING PREVENTION WITH THE RISING INCIDENTS OF FATAL VEHICLE ACCIDENTS INVOLVING DRIVERS WHO ARE TESTING POSITIVE TO THC UNDERSCORES AN URGENT NEED FOR STRONGER REGULATIONS SURROUNDING MARIJUANA USE AND ROAD SAFETY.

AS THE MARIJUANA INDUSTRY EXPANDS THEIR MARKET, SO DOES THE RISK OF IMPAIRED DRIVING.

IT IS A PUBLIC HEALTH CONCERN THAT CANNOT BE IGNORED.

SANDAG SUBSTANCE USE MONITORING PROJECT INTERVIEWS INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE BEEN BOOKED INTO COUNTY JAIL TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THEIR SEP THEIR SUBSTANCE USE FINDINGS SHOWED 61% REPORT.

THEY DO NOT BELIEVE DRIVING UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF MARIJUANA IMPAIRS THEIR DRIVING ABILITY.

THE GAP WAS EVEN WIDER AMONG JU JUVENILES WITH 75 DID NOT BELIEVE DRIVING UNDER THE INFLUENCE AFFECTS THEIR DRIVING PERFORMANCE.

TOGETHER THESE FINDINGS HIGHLIGHT THE DISCONNECT BETWEEN REPORTED BEHAVIOR AND THE PERCEIVED RISK OF MARIJUANA USE.

IN DRIVING WITH THE CITY'S CONSUMPTION LOUNGE CUSTOMERS, THERE IS A NEED TO MAXIMIZE PREVENTION EFFECTIVENESS.

THIS LACK OF PREVENTION HAS SERIOUS IMPLICATIONS FOR THE HEALTH EQUITY OF THE COMMUNITY.

ULTIMATELY, PRIORITIZING ROAD SAFETY THROUGH ROBUST MARIJUANA REGULATIONS IS REALLY ESSENTIAL FOR PROTECTING LIVES.

WE MUST ACT DECISIVELY TO ENSURE THAT OUR ROADS REMAIN SAFE FOR EVERYONE.

LET'S ADVOCATE FOR POLICY THAT ADDRESS THIS GROWING CONCERN AND FOSTER A SAFE DRIVING, UM, ENVIRONMENT FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK.

UH, NEXT WE GO INTO OUR PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS.

THAT'S THE END OF OUR INITIAL 30 MINUTES.

WE WILL PICK UP ANY OTHER, UH, SPEAKERS UNDER, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE END OF THE MEETING.

[6.1 Proclamation - Mateo R. Camarillo Day]

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WE HAVE A CON A PROCLAMATION FOR MATEO R COM DAY.

AND I DON'T KNOW, DO WE HAVE MEMBERS OF HIS FAMILY HERE OR ANYTHING? RIGHT THERE.

THERE WE ARE.

I TAKE IT YOU'RE HIS DAUGHTER.

I'M, YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.

AND, UH, WE KNOW THAT MATEO GOT AROUND JUST ABOUT EVERYWHERE.

I KNOW HE WAS FROM SAN Y SEED DRUGS OVER IN SAN DIEGO.

I SAW HE HAD A NATIONAL CITY ADDRESS OVER AT 8 0 1 ALSO.

AND, UH, BUT ESSAY.

BUT HE WAS A FORCE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN.

AND WE, WE CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, UH, GRIEVE AT HIS, AT HIS PASSING AND HE WAS A LOSS TO, TO ALL, NOT ONLY OF COURSE TO YOUR FAMILY, BUT EVEN MORE SO TO THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE.

AND WITH THAT, WE WANNA DECLARE TODAY, MATEO COMMENT DAY.

UM, HE DID HAVE A NATIONAL CITY RESIDENCE FOR ABOUT 10 YEARS.

UM, IF YOU EVER WANNA DO SOME READING, UH, , HE HAS A TWO HOUR INTERVIEW WITH THE LIBRARY OF CONGRESS MM-HMM .

AND, UM, HE MIGRATED TO THIS COUNTRY JUST AT NINE YEARS OLD.

HE ENDED UP GETTING A MASTER'S IN SOCIAL WORK SERVING DURING THE WAR.

UM, AND HAD, UM, STARTED SAN YSIDRO HEALTH WHEN HE WAS WORKING ON HIS CAPSTONE PROJECT IN SAN YSIDRO, WHERE HE WAS TEACHING WOMEN WANTED, HE WORKED WITH THE YWCA, THEY WANTED TO, UM, HE WANTED TO ORGANIZE, THEY WANTED TO LEARN HOW TO DECORATE CUPCAKES, .

SO HE BROUGHT IN SOMEBODY FROM CITY COLLEGE TO TEACH THEM CUPCAKE DECORATING WHILE HE LEARNED TO ORGANIZE.

SO, GREAT LEADER, GREAT LOSS, OBVIOUSLY, PERSONALLY, BUT, UM, TO THE CHICANO COMMUNITY.

HE WAS A LEGEND.

AND I ALSO WANNA THANK THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND POLICE BECAUSE UNFORTUNATELY OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS WE'VE NEEDED YOU TO FIND HIM .

AND, AND YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN GREAT.

SO THANK YOU ALL.

THANK YOU FOR THE RECOGNITION.

WELL, IF I COULD, ONE OTHER THING, AS I KNOW, UH, HE WAS INVOLVED WITH A NUMBER OF BUSINESSES, BUT THE ONE I THOUGHT WAS THE MOST INTERESTING WAS HIS, UH, THE FRANCHISE HE HAD WITH MCDONALD'S.

MCDONALD'S, YEAH.

HE WAS THE FIRST, FIRST HISPANIC OWNER OPERATOR YEP.

IN SAN DIEGO.

AND AT THE TIME, RAY CROCK ALSO HAD A PRESENCE HERE.

UM, HE WAS ALSO, UM, INSTRUMENTAL IN THE FOUNDING OF THE RONALD MCDONALD HOUSE, UM, BECAUSE HE WAS THE MCDONALD MCDONALD'S OWNER OPERATOR.

HE HAD AN INSIDE TRACK WITH CHILDHOOD CANCER AND THEY WORKED IT OUT WITH SANDAG TO GET A DOLLAR LEASE OF WHERE THE RONALD MCDONALD HOUSE WAS.

SO HE'S, HE'S HAD HIS, HE HAND IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE RECOGNITION.

WITH, UH, EMPLOYEE OF THE QUARTER.

NEXT WE GO

[6.2 Employee of the Quarter - Michael Rodgers - Fire Engineer]

AND THERE HE IS.

GOOD EVENING.

UH, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL CITY STAFF, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.

BRIAN KREPPS, DIVISION CHIEF OPERATIONS WITH NATIONAL CITY FIRE DEPARTMENT.

THE NATIONAL CITY FIRE DEPARTMENT IS PROUD TO RECOGNIZE FIRE ENGINEER MICHAEL M**K ROGERS.

AS OUR EMPLOYEE OF THE QUARTER FIRE ENGINEER.

ROGERS HAS BEEN WITH THE DEPARTMENT FOR A LITTLE OVER FOUR YEARS, AND THROUGH HIS HARD WORK AND DEDICATION HAS ALREADY EARNED THE PROMOTION TO THE RANK OF FIRE ENGINEER.

M**K CONSISTENTLY DEMONSTRATES EXCEPTIONAL PROFESSIONALISM, TEAMWORK, AND COMMITMENT TO SERVING OUR COMMUNITY.

KNOWN FOR MAINTAINING A POSITIVE AND DEPEND DEPENDABLE ATTITUDE.

HE UPLIFTS THOSE AROUND HIM AND SETS A STRONG EXAMPLE FOR HIS PEERS.

IN ADDITION TO HIS DAILY RESPONSIBILITIES, FURNITURE ROGERS HAS VOLUNTEERED TO LEAD OUR PRE-FIRE PLANNING PROGRAM, A DAUNTING AND HIGHLY DETAILED TASKS THAT REQUIRES ORGANIZATION, FORESIGHT AND LEADERSHIP.

HIS WILLINGNESS TO TAKE ON THIS RESPONSIBILITY REFLECTS HIS DEDICATION TO IMPROVING THE DEPARTMENT AND ENSURING THE SAFETY OF OUR COMMUNITY, WHETHER RESPONDING TO EMERGENCIES OR SUPPORTING DAILY OPERATIONS.

FIRE ENGINEER ROGERS EXEMPLIFIES THE VALUES OF COURAGE AND INTEGRITY AND SERVICE THAT DEFINED THE NATIONAL CITY FIRE DEPARTMENT.

WE ARE HONORED TO RECOGNIZE HIM FOR HIS OUTSTANDING CONTRIBUTIONS AND UNWAVERING DEDICATION TO PROTECTING THE LIVES AND PROPERTY OF THE CITIZENS NATIONAL CITY.

YOUR EMPLOYER OF THE QUARTER, M**K ROGERS.

UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, VERY GRATEFUL FOR THIS ACKNOWLEDGEMENT TONIGHT.

UM, BUT I MUST SAY SUCCESS IN THE FIRE SERVICE DOES NOT COME FROM INDIVIDUAL

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EFFORTS ALONE.

UH, IT'S YOUR CREW, THE TEAM, THE FAMILY OF THE DEPARTMENT THAT ALLOWS US TO DO WHAT WE DO.

SO I'M VERY GRATEFUL JUST FOR THE GUIDANCE.

UM, THE TEACHINGS I'VE GOTTEN OVER THIS PAST FEW YEARS, I WOULDN'T BE WHERE I AM WITHOUT THEIR HELP.

UH, THANK YOU TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, THE MAYOR, FOR YOUR ONGOING SUPPORT AS WE CONTINUE TO STRIVE TO MAKE OUR DEPARTMENT BETTER AND THE SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE OUR CITIZENS.

AND OF COURSE, I'VE GOTTA THANK MY WIFE.

, BEING THE SPOUSE ELSE OF A FIREFIGHTER IS NOT THE EASIEST GIG IN THE WORLD.

UH, MANY HOURS AND DAYS AWAY FROM HOME.

UM, BUT SHE'S ALWAYS IN MY CORNER.

SHE'S ALWAYS GOT MY BACK AND I, I COULDN'T DO IT WITHOUT HER.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, MUCH APPRECIATED.

GOT A NICE LITTLE, APPRECIATE IT.

PAPERWEIGHT FOR YOU AND A CERTIFICATE.

WE STILL HAVE BECKY WRAP ON THE LINE THERE.

THAT'S JUST STICK IT UP THERE.

WITH THAT WE GO INTO, UH, OUR ENGINEERING AND PUBLIC WORKS.

WANNA MAKE SURE, UH,

[6.3 Introduction of New Hires and Promotions of City Employees]

UH, FOR THIS NOW WE'RE GONNA BE DOING SOME, UH, INTRODUCTION ON NEW EMPLOYEES AND PROMOTIONS.

UH, GOOD EVENING MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, UH, MEMBERS OF THE CITY, CITY COUNCIL, CITY MANAGER, STAFF, AND, UH, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.

MY NAME IS LUCAS APPEAL.

I'M THE PRINCIPAL CIVIL ENGINEER IN THE ENGINEERING AND PUBLIC COURSE DEPARTMENT.

AND TONIGHT WE'RE PLEASED TO INTRODUCE TWO NEW HIRES AND WE RECOGNIZE TWO PROMOTIONS IN THE ENGINEERING AND PUBLIC COURSE DEPARTMENT.

FIRST, WE, UH, WELCOME GINO, UH, DEWAN, UM, AS A NEW CUSTODIAN.

GINO IS A NATIONAL CITY RESIDENT WITH OVER FOUR YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN HOSPITALITY.

HE WORKED AT MARRIOTT RESIDENCE INN, UM, AS A HOUSEMAN AND PUB AND, AND PUBLIC AREAS.

AND HE ALSO SPEND A YEAR WORKING IN PUBLIC AREAS AT, UH, LA JOLLA BEACH AND TENNIS CLUB.

NEXT WE HAVE MAURICE BERRY AS A NEW CUSTODIAN.

MAURICE, UH, PREVIOUSLY WORKED AT, AT THE VETERAN HOUSE OF CALIFORNIA FOR ONE YEAR, UH, AND AT THE CORONADO UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT FOR 24 YEARS.

UM, HE ALSO BRINGS 10 YEARS, UH, OF EXPERIENCE AS THE OWNER OF HIS OWN CUSTODIAL BUSINESS.

BOTH JEAN AND MORRIS, UH, SHARE THAT THEY APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH THE C NATIONAL CITY AND ARE HAPPY TO BE PART OF OUR TEAM.

UH, IN ADDITION, UH, WE'RE PROUD TO ANNOUNCE TWO WELL, THE SERVED PROMOTIONS.

UH, THE FIRST ONE IS FOR RICARDO RODRIGUEZ.

HE HAS BEEN PROMOTED AS ASSOCIATE ENGINEER.

HE JOINED THE C'S ENGINEERING PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT IN JANUARY, 2023 AS AN ASSISTANT ENGINEER.

IN THAT ROLE, HE MANAGED SEVERAL CIP PROJECTS AND WORKED IN PRIVATE, UH, DEVELOPMENT, PROJECT REVIEWS, ENVIRONMENTAL COMPLIANCE, TRAFFIC SAFETY, LEGAL MEDIA ITEMS. IN HIS NEW ROLE, HE WILL TAKE A MORE LEADERSHIP RESPONSIBILITIES AND BE MORE INVOLVED IN MANAGING CIP PROJECTS.

TODAY WE ARE PROUD TO RECOGNIZE HIS EFFORT AND CELEBRATE HIS WELL THE SERVED PRO, UH, PROMOTION AS ASSOCIATE ENGINEER.

AND WE'RE ALSO PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE THAT, UH, JUAN HERRERA GARCIA HAS BEEN PROMOTED TO TRAFFIC PAINTER.

JUAN JOINED THE CITY'S, UH, PUBLIC WORK STREET WASTEWATER DIVISION IN JUNE, 2020 AS A MAINTENANCE WORKERS.

TWO YEARS LATER, HE JOINED THE SIGNING STRIVING CREW WHERE HE WORKED HARD AND DEVELOPED SPECIALIZED SKILLS AND BECOME, UH, KEY MEMBERS OF THE TEAM.

TODAY WE'RE ALSO PROUD TO RECOGNIZE HIS EFFORTS AND CELEBRATE HIS WEALTH.

THE THIRD PROMOTION TO TRAFFIC PAINTER.

SO THAT WOULD BE BOTH FOR MAURICE AND GINO.

GINO YET? YEAH, HE COVERED ALL OF THEM.

UM, NEXT WE GO TO, UH, WE'LL GO CITY MANAGER.

I THINK WE GOT ON PROMOTIONS.

GOT ONE FOR YOU THERE.

YEAH, WE DO.

UH, ACTUALLY, IF, IF YOU DON'T MIND, MAYOR, I WILL COVER THE PD AS WELL WHERE THE, UH, PD HAD AS WELL.

SO THE MARTIN READER'S NOT

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HERE RIGHT NOW.

HE'S ON A VACATION.

HE'S CELEBRATING HIS PROMOTION TO DIRECTOR, BUT HE'LL BE BACK SOON, I PROMISE.

UM, SO HE IS WHAT THEY ALL SAY .

SO HE JUST RECENTLY GOT PROMOTED.

HE'D BEEN IN THE ACTING ROLE FOR US FOR A WHILE.

HE'S BEEN DOING A BANG UP JOB AND, UH, WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF HIM.

UM, MOVING DOWN TO MIGUEL, UM, HE SHOULD LOOK FAMILIAR TO YOU BECAUSE WE SEND THEM TO THE ACADEMY ROUGH, CLOSE TO A YEAR AGO.

SO HE, UH, HE WENT TO THE ACADEMY.

HE GRADUATED, HE JUST COMPLETED THE FIELD TRAINING PROGRAM.

WE'RE VERY PROUD OF HIM.

UH, HE WAS ACTUALLY IN THE DETECTIVE BAY TODAY WHERE HE IS DOING AN ORIENTATION WITH DIFFERENT UNITS WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

AND IF YOU'RE DRIVING AROUND THE CITY IN THE DAYTIME, YOU'RE GONNA SEE HIM.

HE'LL BE ON HIS OWN.

SO WE'RE, UH, REALLY PROUD OF HIM.

ALSO, NICO SHOULD LOOK FAMILIAR.

NICO DOIG.

SO HE WAS ONE OF OUR, UH, COMMUNITY SERVICE OFFICERS, BUT HE DECIDED TO MAKE THE JUMP OVER TO DISPATCH.

HE WAS HELPING US OUT UP THERE.

HE WAS DOING AN AMAZING JOB AND NICO TOOK A JOB UP THERE.

UM, HIS GOAL IS OBVIOUSLY TO BECOME A POLICE OFFICER, SO WE'RE KEEPING A WATCHFUL EYE ON THEM AND, AND HOPING THAT HE MAKES A JUMP TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

SO THAT'S THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND MARTIN REEDER.

UH, SO WE WOULD STILL HAVE, YEAH, WE DO HAVE FIRE.

, HE THOUGHT HE WAS GONNA SIT THIS ONE OUT.

HE'S GONNA PLAY COY OVER THERE.

BRING HIM UP.

UH, GOOD EVENING MAYOR, VICE MAYOR COUNCIL, UH, MEMBER OF STAFF AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.

UH, AGAIN, BRIAN KRAFT, OPERATION DIVISION CHIEF FIRE DEPARTMENT.

I KNOW HE DOESN'T NEED AN INTRODUCTION, BUT IT'S MY PLEASURE TO RECOGNIZE JEREMY DAY'S PROMOTION TO FIRE BATTALION CHIEF.

JEREMY HAS BEEN WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT SINCE 2002.

HE'S PREVIOUSLY HELD THE RANKS OF FIREFIGHTER, FIRE ENGINEER, FIRE CAPTAIN.

AND AS YOU ALL ARE AWARE, JEREMY WAS PROMOTED TO BUILD AND EVENTUALLY MANAGE OUR GROUND EMERGENCY TRANSPORT PROGRAM.

AND HE IS BEEN DOING AN OUTSTANDING JOB THUS FAR.

I KNOW HE IS EXCITED TO, UH, PRESENT TO YOU THE PROGRAM IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

AND AGAIN, IT IS OUR PLEASURE TO RECOGNIZE BATTALION CHIEF JEREMY DAY.

CONGRATULATIONS.

EXACTLY.

I KNOW I SHOULD HAVE RUN OFF TO THE BATHROOM.

UM, IT'S BEEN A, A LONG JOURNEY, UH, TO THIS POSITION.

UH, TO BE HONEST, I DIDN'T ANTICIPATE IT WOULD BE IN THIS ROLE, IN THIS POSITION.

UH, ESTABLISHING A, A NEW ROLE AND, AND CREATING AN ENTIRE NEW DIVISION OF OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, ENHANCING THE SERVICE DELIVERY TO OUR RESIDENTS.

UM, THERE IS A LOT OF WORK THAT IS GOING ON BEHIND THE SCENES AND WE'RE EXCITED TO BRING IT TO YOU.

BRING IT OUT INTO THE OPEN AND, UH, GET IT ROLLING.

HOPEFULLY THAT WILL BE HERE IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE.

NOPE.

HE'S GOT SOME MORE HERE YET.

UM, THEN WE ALSO HAVE, UH, LOOKS LIKE SOME MORE OVER IN ENGINEERING.

YOUR PROMOTIONS, RONNIE.

COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.

COUNCIL RONNIE SERANO, ACTING ASSISTANT COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR.

COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.

GOOD EVENING, HONOR MAYOR, VICE MAYOR.

IT'S MY PLEASURE TO ANNOUNCE THE PROMOTION OF DAVID MACER TO COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT SPECIALIST.

THREE.

DAVID'S CAREER WITH NATIONAL CITY BEGAN AS AN INTERN FOR THE HOUSING AUTHORITY WHILE HE EARNED HIS MASTER'S IN PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION FROM STSU IN 2021.

AFTER GETTING EXPERIENCE WITH THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO AND THE SAN DIEGO HOUSING COMMISSION, HE JOINED OUR TEAM FULL-TIME IN 2023 DA.

DAVID HAS BECOME A TECHNICAL ANCHOR FOR OUR DEPARTMENT TO NAME JUST A FEW HIGHLIGHTS.

HE WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN THE UNION TOWER AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT, SECURING FEDERAL APPROVALS AND OVERSEEING LOAN AGREEMENTS.

HE ALSO MANAGES THE GRANT ADMINISTRATION AND COMPLIANCE FOR THE CITY'S AFFORDABLE HOUSING PORTFOLIO.

WHILE MUCH OF DAVID'S WORK HAPPENS BEHIND THE SCENES, HIS IMPACT ON OUR COMMUNITY IS SIGNIFICANT AND HIS HARD WORK DOES NOT GO UNNOTICED.

PLEASE JOIN ME IN CONGRATULATING DAVID ON HIS PROMOTION.

MAYOR.

YES, THEY

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DID AN INITIATION TO RONNIE.

LOOK AT HIM.

HE'S EVEN WEARING A TIE.

, I DIDN'T RECOGNIZE YOU SIR.

AH, THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THEY GET UPSTAIRS.

ALL RIGHT, .

I BELIEVE THAT'S ALL THE ONE THAT WE HAVE ON THAT ONE.

I'M TRYING TO GET ALL THESE SPEAKER SLIPS SET UP HERE FOR, UH, UH, COMING UP ON CONSENT CALENDAR.

UH, NEXT WE HAVE

[7.1 Kimball Holiday 2025 Recap]

A PRESENTATION.

THIS IS ON KIMBALL HOLIDAYS, THE 2025, THE RECAP.

GOOD EVENING, MARON CITY COUNCIL THERE YOU'RE, THANK YOU FOR THIS TIME.

IT'LL BE BRIEF.

JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU ALL AGAIN FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND FOR COMING OUT TO THE 2025 KIMBALL HOLIDAY.

JUST HAVE A QUICK RECAP OF THE EVENT.

I KNOW YOU WERE ALL THERE, SO YOU'LL BE PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH THIS.

UM, AGAIN, WANT TO THANK OUR SPONSORS.

COULDN'T DO IT WITHOUT THEM, AND ESPECIALLY WANT TO THANK THE COUNTY AND SUPERVISOR PALOMA GARY FOR THE $20,000 COMMUNITY ENHANCEMENT PROGRAM GRANT.

UM, WE HAD 3000 ATTENDEES AND I THINK IT'S BEST TO JUST SHOW A QUICK VIDEO.

YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE NIGHT MAYBE FROM DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES, EVEN THOUGH YOU WERE ALL THERE AS WELL.

SO THIS WILL BE SUPER QUICK.

WHAT PUTS THE BIGGEST SMILE ON YOUR FACE? THE BIGGEST SMILE WOULD BE BEING HERE WITH MY FAMILY.

I THINK SEEING HOW MUCH AIR PEOPLE CAN GET ON THE SNOW HILL OVER HERE IS THE BEST THING FOR ME.

I'VE JUST BEEN LAUGHING THE WHOLE TIME.

IT'S SEEING SANTA CLA, I MEAN, ALL OF IT.

THE GATHERING, THE TOGETHERNESS OF HAVING A PLACE TO CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS ACTIVITIES.

IT'S GETTING TO SEE THE REGULAR PEOPLE SHOWING UP AND, YOU KNOW, BUILDING THAT RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM.

I ALSO REALLY LIKE SEEING ALL THE PERFORMANCES UP ON STAGE.

IT'S REALLY COOL SEEING EVERYBODY PUT IN THE WORK AND ENTERTAIN US OVER HERE AT THIS TIME.

THANK YOU FOR ATTENDING A KIMBALL HOLIDAY.

SEE YOU NEXT YEAR.

THANK YOU AGAIN.

APPRECIATE ALL YOUR SUPPORT.

AND, UH, YEAH, YOU DID MENTION THE, THE GRANT THAT WAS GIVEN BY THE, UH, THE COUNTY.

AND I KNOW I HAD, UH, SOMEONE ON SOCIAL MEDIA COMPLAINT ABOUT THAT.

WE WERE, UM, SPENDING MONEY ON MELTING SNOW WHEN WE WEREN'T PUTTING, DOING SOMETHING WITH THEIR SIDEWALK IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE OR SOMETHING.

AND, YOU KNOW, NEED TO REALIZE, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS MONEY THAT WAS SPECIFIC TOWARD THIS, THAT OTHERWISE WOULD'VE WENT TO ANOTHER COMMUNITY, WOULD NEVER HAVE WENT FOR SIDEWALKS OR ANYTHING ELSE.

AND PEOPLE JUST NEED TO KIND OF REALIZE THE DIFFERENT BUCKETS OF MONEY AND HOW WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT.

BUT WHEN YOU SAW HOW MUCH JOY THERE WAS THAT NIGHT, AND EVEN THE NEXT COUPLE DAYS AFTER THAT, KIDS WERE STILL OUT THERE IN THE SNOW OR PLAYING, YOU KNOW, SLIDING DOWN THAT HILL.

THEY JUST DIDN'T HAVE, THEY JUST DIDN'T HAVE, UH, HAY BALES AT THE BOTTOM TO STOP 'EM.

THEY WENT RIGHT OFF INTO, INTO THE SIDEWALK.

BUT, UH, UH, BUT AS I SAY, UH, IT WAS EVERY PENNY WAS WELL WORTH IT TO, TO, UH, TO SEE THE COMMUNITY COME TOGETHER FOR STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO, SO ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOUR DEPARTMENT DID ON THAT.

WE COME INTO REGIONAL BOARDS AND COMMITTEE REPORTS.

[8. REGIONAL BOARDS AND COMMITTEE REPORTS]

I'LL START DOWN HERE ON MY LEFT.

NOTHING TO REPORT, MR. MAYOR.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

MR. MAYOR WOULD LIKE TO REPORT ON, UM, SAN DIEGO COMMUNITY POWER, UM, SAN DIEGO COMMUNITY POWER.

I WAS, UM, ELECTED AS THE VICE CHAIR FOR, UH, THE BOARD OF, UH, THE DIRECTORS FOR THE SAN DIEGO COMMUNITY POWER.

UM, AND THEN DURING THAT, UM, MEETING AS WELL, UM, THE A BOARD, UM, THE BOARD, UM, UH, ELECTED OR, OR, UM, PROVIDED OR, OR, UH, APPROVED APPROVE, UM, A 10%, UM, DISCOUNT ON ELECTRICITY GENERATION THROUGH COMMUNITY POWER.

THIS IS AN ONGOING EFFORTS TO PROVIDE CLEAN ENERGY AT THE GREATEST POSSIBLE VALUE FOR OUR CUSTOMERS.

THE SAN DIEGO COMMUNITY POWER APPROVED ELECTRICITY GENERATION RATES THAT WILL CREATE THE LARGEST DISCOUNT COMPARED TO SAN DIEGO GAS AND ELECTRIC.

IN THE AGENCY'S FIVE YEAR SERVING CUSTOMERS, THE NEW ELECTRICITY GENERATION RATES WILL PROVIDE A 4% RATE DISCOUNT FOR CUSTOMERS WHO ARE ON THE DEFAULT POWER ON SERVICE.

COMPARED TO SDG AND E'S STANDARD SERVICE

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CUSTOMERS WHO HAVE OPTED INTO POWER BASE COMMUNITY POWER'S MOST AFFORDABLE SERVICE OPTION WILL RECEIVE A 10% DISCOUNT COMPARED TO SDG AND E.

SO THAT'S FOR, UM, SAN DIEGO COMMUNITY POWER, UH, MR. MAYOR FOR SWEETWATER, UH, AUTHORITY.

LAST, UM, LAST WEEK WE HAD OUR, UH, REGULAR BOARD MEETING.

AND, UM, YOURS TRULY WAS, UM, ELECTED AS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD FOR THE SWEETWATER AUTHORITY.

AND I AM GRATEFUL FOR THAT TRUST AND CONFIDENCE.

NEXT, GO DOWN HERE, RIGHT? YES.

SO FOR, UH, A PCD, UH, MEETING IS NEXT MONTH.

SO WE HAVEN'T HAD A MEETING IN JANUARY.

UH, FOR MTS, UH, THE BIG DISCUSSION WAS, UH, ONE WAS A RESOLUTION ON AUTONOMOUS, UH, VEHICLES, UH, TAXIS, WHICH WAS TARGETED AT WAYMO IN THE NEED FOR, UH, MORE REGULATIONS SINCE IT APPEARS THAT WAYMO IS BEING ALLOWED IN, UM, IN DOWNTOWN SAN DIEGO AND, AND MORE VEHICLES.

SO IT WAS AN APPEAL TO THE STATE FOR MORE, UH, REGULATION AND, UM, AND, UH, JUST SOLIDARITY WITH OUR, OUR LOCAL, UH, UH, TAXI CAB COMPANIES AND SOME OF THE CONCERNS WITH THE WORKERS.

SO, UH, THAT WAS ONE OF THE BIG POINTS OF DISCUSSION, BUT WE VOTED TO APPROVE THAT RESOLUTION.

THE OTHER ITEM THAT, UH, IMPACTS THE NATIONAL CITY, THERE'S BEEN A PILOT FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS.

IT'S, UH, BUS ROUTE NINE 10, WHICH IS THE OVERNIGHT EXPRESS THAT RUNS, UH, BECAUSE THE BLUE LINE TROLLEY STOPS FROM, UH, DOWNTOWN TO, UH, TO TIJUANA.

IT STOPS, UH, FROM 12:30 AM TO FIVE, UH, AM.

SO THIS IS A EXPRESS BUS SERVICE THAT SERVES, UH, FOR THAT SAME COVERAGE.

AND IT INCLUDES THE 24TH STREET STOP IN NATIONAL CITY.

SO THAT'S BEEN A PILOT.

WE DID VOTE TO MAKE THAT PERMANENT AND WANT TO JUST PROMOTE THAT OUT THERE BECAUSE FOR THOSE WORKERS IN NATIONAL CITY, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT MAY WORK AT THE AIRPORT OR ANOTHER LOCATIONS, THIS IS A REALLY GOOD SERVICE.

IT'S GROWN ABOUT 30%, UH, JUST IN THE FEW MONTHS IT'S BEEN RUNNING.

SO IT'S BEEN REALLY BIG SUCCESS AND JUST WANNA ENCOURAGE FOLKS TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.

AGAIN, THAT'S, UH, ROUTE, UH, NINE 10.

IT'S THE OVERNIGHT EXPRESS.

AND YOU, YOU, IF I COULD, YOU MIGHT WANT TO SAY WHY THERE IS NO SERVICE BETWEEN 1230 AND FIVE.

I BELIEVE IT'S BECAUSE THE FREIGHT RUNS DURING THAT TIME.

THAT'S, THAT'S WHEN THE FREIGHT RUNS ON THE EXACT SAME LINE SO THAT THE TWO TWO WILL CONFLICT WITH ONE ANOTHER.

WHY DIDN'T YOU JUST SAY IT, RON .

I KNOW, BUT I JUST WANTED, I JUST WANTED YEAH.

OTHERWISE SAY, WELL, WHY DON'T WE HAVE MORE SERVICE THEN? YEAH.

UH, BUT IT'S GOOD TO SEE THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY ABLE TO GET THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE VERY, VERY QUALIFIED TO DO THAT.

UH, FOR SANDAG, THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, SPEAK AT THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE, UH, TO SECURE FUNDING FOR THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY.

THERE WAS SOME FUNDING FOR A GRANT THAT WAS, UM, IT WAS MEANT TO BE AWARDED TO THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY FOR ONE OF OUR PUBLIC WORKS PROJECTS.

THIS IS A PROJECT FOR, UH, 16TH AND 18TH STREET OVER BY THE 8 0 5, UH, NEAR, UH, PLAZA BOULEVARD.

AND, UM, THROUGH THE SMART GROWTH, EXCUSE ME, SMART GROWTH INCENTIVE PROGRAM, WHICH IS FUNDED THROUGH TRANSNET FUNDS.

THERE WAS SOME CHANGES AT SANDAG WHERE, UH, THAT FUNDING THAT, UH, SHOULD HAVE GONE TO THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY.

IT WAS 1.2 MILLION.

SOMETHING LIKE THAT WAS IN DANGER.

WELL, UM, STEVE MANGANELLO CERTAINLY, AND EVEN THE MAYOR, THEY WERE NOT GOING TO GOING TO ALLOW THIS.

IT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A BATTLE, BUT I WAS ABLE TO MAKE A CASE FOR THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY AND EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE, UM, ULTIMATELY AGREED WITH OUR POSITION, AND THEY DID GRANT US THAT MONEY FOR THAT GRANT.

UM, AND NOW THIS COMING FRIDAY AT THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS, NOW IT, IT WILL BE ON CONSENT.

SO HOPEFULLY THE BATTLE HAS, YOU KNOW, WON'T BE AS BAD.

BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, WISH ME LUCK THIS FRIDAY.

UH, FOR AUDIT COMMITTEE AT SANDAG.

OUR OPA DID RECEIVE, UM, UM, GOOD REMARK, YOU KNOW, GOOD MARKS ON HER EVALUATION AND, UM, UH, THE ANNUAL MERIT INCREASE.

AND, UM, OPA, THE OFFICE OF INDEPENDENT PERFORMANCE AUDIT AUDITOR.

UM, WE APPROVED THE BUDGET FOR, UM, FOR THE COMING YEAR.

I, THE STORY I HEARD WAS THAT WE HAD A COUNCIL MEMBER THAT WENT DOWN THERE MAD AND GOT IT DONE.

SO .

SO ANYWAY, UH, ANYWAY, UM, THE, UH, A COUPLE OF QUICK THINGS.

UH, ONE THING IS THAT I, UH, CHAIR THE, UH, UH, FOR SANDAG, THE I TALK, UH, SELECTION COMMITTEE WHERE WE SELECT PEOPLE THAT ARE, THESE ARE SPECIALTY, THEY'D BE LIKE AN ENGINEERING OR IN, UH, SOME FORM OF VERY SPECIALTY, UH, UM, OVERSIGHT, UH, INDIVIDUALS THAT DO THE OVERSIGHT ON SANDAG AS FAR AS THE SPENDING.

AND SO WE DID, UH, DO INTERVIEWS AND SELECTED, UH, SELECTED TWO INDIVIDUALS, VERY WELL QUALIFIED.

OUR PROBLEM WAS WE'RE GETTING TOO MANY VERY WELL QUALIFIED PEOPLE, UH, FOR THOSE POSITIONS THAT, YOU KNOW, WANNA DO.

IT, DOESN'T PAY ANYTHING, ANYTHING ELSE.

AND THEY JUST, THEY, THEY JUST DO IT.

BUT,

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UH, THE OTHER THING IS AS, UH, UH, WITH , THE REGIONAL SOLID WASTE ASSOCIATION, WHICH I CHAIR THE, UH, UH, WE MET THIS LAST WEEK AND ONCE AGAIN STARTED TAKING A LOOK AT, UH, AS WE'VE SWITCHED OVER TO THIS WHOLE PROGRAM THAT THE STATE HAS SET UP WHERE, UH, LIKE GROCERY STORES, RESTAURANTS, HOMES, EVERYTHING ELSE HAVE TO START, UH, RECYCLING THEIR FOOD WASTE AND REUSING FOOD WASTE WHEREVER POSSIBLE, OR EXCESS FOOD, I SHOULD SAY.

AND THEN THEIR YARD WASTE.

UH, AND SO WE HAVE TO BE INSPECTING ALL THESE RESTAURANTS, ALL OF THESE, UH, UH, STORES AND EVERYTHING.

AND THE, THE, THE STATE HAS GRANTED SOME MONEY, BUT THAT IS RUNNING OUT BY THE END OF THIS YEAR AND THERE DOESN'T LOOK LIKE ANYTHING COMING IN AFTER IT.

SO WE WAS LOOKING AT, AT, AT, UH, DIFFERENT RESOURCES THAT WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO PULL TOGETHER TO MAKE THAT CONTINUING SO THE CITIES DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR, GEE, SOUNDS LIKE AN UNFUNDED MANDATE FROM THE STATE, UH, WHICH IS, BUT IT'S NOT BECAUSE THE STATE SAYS THEY CAN'T DO UNFUNDED MANDATES.

SO IT MUST NOT REALLY BE A UNFUNDED MANDATE.

UH, BUT WE'LL, UH, UH, BUT WE'RE LOOKING TO FIND OTHER, OTHER RESOURCES SO THAT THAT DOESN'T HAVE COME OUTTA THE CITY'S POCKET.

SO THAT WAS OUR DISCUSSION ON THAT THIS LAST WEEK.

UM, THAT'S ALL THAT I HAVE.

NEXT WE

[9. CONSENT CALENDAR]

GO ON TO CONSENT CALENDAR.

AND I HAVE SLIPS HERE FOR ON SECTION NINE, 9.6 7, 8 11, 12, 14 AND 15.

MAYOR, I BELIEVE YOU MAY HAVE ONE FOR 9.3 ALSO FOR WHICH ONE? 9.3.

9.3 I BELIEVE SO.

OH, YES.

IT WAS STUCK IN THERE.

YOU GOT IT.

9.3.

GOOD CATCH.

OKAY, SO THAT'S 9.3 6 7 8 11, 12, 14, AND 15.

AND MR. MAYOR? YES.

MOVE TO APPROVE THE REMAINING, UM, CONSENT ITEMS IN THE CONSENT CALENDAR.

SEEING NOTHING ELSE TO BE PULLED WITH THAT, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND PUSH.

CAN YOU REGISTER YOUR SECOND? OKAY, THERE, THEY PUT 'EM IN.

AND THEN FOR THE RECORD, UH, TED GODSHAW HAD A WRITTEN COMMENT ON 9.7.

YES, THANK YOU.

PLEASE VOTE THE REMAINDER OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR.

MEMBER BUSH MEMBER BUSH.

WITH THAT WE GO TO, UH, 9.3 EXEC, UH, EXECUTE A FIRST AMENDMENT WITH, UH, DTA PUBLIC FINANCE FORMALLY IDENTIFIED AS DAVID TOSSING, I THINK IT IS, AND ASSOCIATES FOR CONSULTING SERVICES.

ALRIGHT,

[9.3 Execute a First Amendment with DTA Public Finance, Inc. formerly identified as David Taussig and Associates, Inc. for Consulting Services]

UH, THIS IS EDWARD NETTO.

YOU ARE GONNA HAVE HERE FOR A WHILE, THE EDWARD NETTO AND THOMAS REICH SHOW.

YOU KNOW, I WAS JUST, UH, PREVIOUSLY I SAID DIG IT INTO THE DETAILS, YOU KNOW, AND THIS AGREEMENT HERE SORT OF, UH, REEKS.

IT SEEMS TO BE A PATTERN HERE.

I WAS LOOKING AT THE FOOTNOTES AND THE FOOTNOTES TALK ABOUT, HE GIVES YOU THREE DIFFERENT OPTIONS ON, ON, UM, THE METHODOLOGIES YOU CAN USE IN THEIR, IN THEIR CALCULATIONS.

AND THE FOOTNOTES THAT I SEE, AND MAYBE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, 'CAUSE I JUST BROWSED IT, IT SAYS THE OPTION THAT THEY USE IS THE ONE WHERE THEY FIGURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH ACCOUNTING INFORMATION, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH WHAT ENOUGH ACCOUNTING INFORMATION.

SO THEY PICK THE EASIEST ONE.

SO, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE LAUGH ABOUT, YOU KNOW, NOT HAVING ENOUGH MONEY TO, TO, UM, COVER OUR COST AND THEY COME UP WITH THEIR OWN PROJECTS.

WELL, HERE'S ONE WHERE YOU COULD DIG INTO AND MAYBE DIG OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY, YOU KNOW? OKAY.

COUNSEL ON 9.3.

THAT'S THE ONLY SPEAKER WE HAVE.

WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE MR. CHAIRMAN? MOVED TO APPROVE 9.3.

I HAVE A SECOND.

SECOND, SECOND.

OKAY, WE PUSHING OUR MOTIONS THERE.

IS AUTHORIZED THE PURCHASE OF A STREET SWEEPER FOR PUBLIC WORK STREETS AND WASTEWATER DIVISION.

I THINK MR. NATO'S POINTS WELL TAKEN.

UM, 9.6

[9.6 Authorize the Purchase of a Street Sweeper for Public Works Streets and Wastewater Division]

AND THIS ONE IS EDO A MINUTE SIX.

NO, I'M SORRY THOMAS REICH ON THIS ONE.

I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT IT'S $494,000 FOR THIS.

AND THAT'S 10 POLICE CARS

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AND THAT'S MORE THAN ONE FIRE TRUCK, BUT, AND THAT'S IT.

AND THAT'S BEEN VOTED ON AND I'M SURE THAT MAYOR MORRISON AND MR. ARE NOT RECEIVING A KICKBACK.

, THANK YOU.

STREET SWEEPERS ARE EXPENSIVE AND THEY BREAK DOWN A LOT AND WITH, AND EVERY CITY HAS THAT, THAT PROBLEM WITH THEM.

AND UH, AND YET IF SOMEBODY'S STREET GETS MISSED, WE GET CALLS REAL QUICK, BELIEVE ME.

AND, UH, EVEN IF THEIR CAR IS PARKED OUT AGAINST THE SIDEWALK AND STREET SWEEPER CAN'T GET UP TO THE CURB, BUT THAT'S, THEY'LL STILL COMPLAIN.

UH, ALRIGHT, THAT'S 9.6.

THAT'S THE ONLY SPEAKER WE HAVE.

WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE? MAKE A MOTION TO ITEM ITEM 9.6.

NOW WE GO TO 9.7 AND THAT'S THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE AGREEMENT WITH WEST COAST ARBORIST INC.

WE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND.

AND PLEASE VOTE MOTION PRE UNANIMOUSLY.

OKAY,

[9.7 First Amendment to the Agreement with West Coast Arborists, Inc. for Specialized Urban Forestry Maintenance Services.]

FOR SPECIALIZED URBAN FORESTRY MAINTENANCE SERVICES.

ED ROMEO.

MORE OF A QUESTION.

UH, THIS IS ONE WHERE I'M ASKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S ABOUT TREE MAINTENANCE.

I KNOW THAT WE'VE ADDED A LOT OF TREES TO, SO I'M WONDERING IF THIS AGREEMENT ACTUALLY COVERS THE COST OF ADDING TREES AND MAINTENANCE 'CAUSE THAT WAS A BUDGETED ISSUE OR NOT ADDING THE NEW TREES AND THIS ADDITIONAL COST.

WELL I THINK WHAT THE ISSUE IS THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY SHOWING THAT WE SHOULD HAVE TWO, UM, TWO CREWS FOR TREE TRIMMING.

AND FOR THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF, WE'VE ONLY HAD ONE.

AND I THINK WE'VE GOT ONE INDIVIDUAL COMING ON.

I, I'M GONNA LOOK OVER THERE TO GET REFORMATION.

YES, GOOD EVENING.

WE'RE TAG TEAMING TONIGHT FOR THE ENGINEERING AND PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT HERE.

UM, MARTA EZ, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER, BUT ALSO THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR ENGINEERING AND PUBLIC WORKS.

SO, UH, THIS IS BOTH, UH, AN AMOUNT AND A TIME EXTENSION TO THE EXISTING CONTRACT WITH WEST COAST ARBORISTS.

WE DO, UH, HAVE THEM, UH, ON CALL FOR EMERGENCIES FOR ADDITIONAL WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, SPECIAL PROJECTS, ESPECIALLY RELATED TO CIPS, ET CETERA, WHERE THERE'S BEEN EXTENSIVE TREE REMOVALS.

BUT, UM, AS YOU MENTIONED, WE'VE BEEN, UM, UNDER-RESOURCED ON THE TREE CREW FOR, UM, THE PAST YEAR AND A HALF OR SO DUE TO PERSONNEL, UH, MATTERS AND HIRING PROCESS.

AND SO, UM, THE CITY HAS A TREE GRID THAT WE FOLLOW AND WE'VE FALLEN BEHIND DUE TO THE STAFFING ISSUES.

SO THIS, UM, ADDITIONAL FUNDING ON THIS CONTRACT WILL ALLOW US TO GET CAUGHT UP AND ALSO CONTINUE TO SERVICE THE COMMUNITY AND THE NEEDS FOR BOTH ONGOING MAINTENANCE OF TREE, TREE TRIMMING, TREE REMOVALS, BUT ALSO EMERGENCY RESPONSES WHEN THERE'S DOWN TREES.

ALRIGHT, THAT IS THE ONLY SPEAKER WE HAVE ON THAT ITEM.

WAS YOUR PLEASURE, MAYOR? I HAVE A COMMENT.

UH, THERE WAS A COMMENT THAT WAS SUBMITTED BY MR. TED GOTCHU ON THE WEST COAST ARBORIST, UM, ITEM.

AND I JUST WANTED TO, UH, PUT IT ON THE RECORD.

THE REQUEST IS FOR THE TREE TRIMMING AT THE NATIONAL CITY GOLF COURSE.

I'M NOT SURE HOW APPLICABLE THAT REQUEST IS FOR THIS SPECIFIC ITEM, BUT I JUST WANTED TO PUT IT ON THE RECORD.

UM, THERE IS A 100 FOOT TALL PALM TREE THAT BROKE AT THE BASE, UH, DURING THE LATEST WINDY STORM THIS MONTH.

AND IT NEEDS ATTENTION.

IF I AM CORRECT.

'CAUSE WE JUST WERE TALKING ABOUT CONTRACT WITH THEM.

I BELIEVE THAT IS A PART OF THE GOLF COURSES CONTRACT TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR OWN TREES.

NOT THE CITY DOES NOT TAKE CARE OF THE GOLF COURSE.

YEAH, YEAH.

SO, UM, ANYWAY, UM, YES, THANK YOU MS. MAYOR.

UM, THANK YOU THE STAFF FOR DOING DUE DILIGENCE ON THIS.

UM, DO WE KNOW HOW, HOW BEHIND WE ARE IN THE TREE TRIMMING SCHEDULE AROUND THE CITY A YEAR? UM, IT'S, IT'S HARD TO MEASURE, BUT WE ARE APPROXIMATELY A YEAR BEHIND.

WE TRY TO GET THROUGH ONE TO TWO GRIDS, UH, ONE TO TWO AREAS OF THE GRID, UH, EVERY YEAR.

AND SO WE'VE FALLEN BEHIND, UH, ON THAT AND WE EXPECT TO BE FULLY CAUGHT UP BY THE SUMMER IF WE'RE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS CONTRACT EXTENSION.

NICE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

NOW I THINK, UM, INEVITABLY AS WE PLANT MORE TREES AND OUR TREES FULLY MATURE THAT ARE ALREADY EXISTING, WE NEED MORE HELP AND MORE RESOURCES.

AND SO THANK YOU FOR BEING PROACTIVE FOR BRINGING THIS UP TO US, AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN MAINTAIN OUR TREE CANOPY AND AS WE CONTINUE TO EXPAND IT IN

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THE FUTURE.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT SECOND.

MOTION SECOND.

AND IT, IT'S ALWAYS DIFFICULT.

WE DEAL WITH TREES.

THERE WAS, UH, NO REQUEST ON SOCIAL MEDIAS LAST WEEK FOR US TO TAKE CARE OF THE PALM TREES IN FRONT OF SWEETWATER HIGH SCHOOL.

THAT ARE ON SWEETWATER HIGH SCHOOL'S PROPERTY.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, SO EV EVERYONE THINKS WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO ALL THE TREES, BUT ONLY THE ONES THAT ARE SPECIFIC WITHIN OUR PROPERTY, UH, IN OUR JURISDICTION THAT WE, THAT WE DEAL WITH.

AND IT'S HARD ENOUGH DEALING WITH THOSE, WITH ALL KEEPING UP WITH THAT.

SO, OKAY, SO THIS IS, UH, NINE SEVEN.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

SEE, NO MORE DISCUSSION.

NEXT, WE'LL GO TO NINE EIGHT AND PURCHASE A 32 PANASONIC TOUGHBOOK MOBILE DATA COMPUTERS FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OFFICERS USE IN, IN PATROL VEHICLES.

ED RANO.

AND YOU MIGHT AS WELL JUST STAY UP HERE 'CAUSE YOU GOT THE NEXT FEW ITEMS. UH OH.

I GOTTA GET ALL YOUR NOTES.

LOOK OUT.

LISTEN, THIS QUESTION I HAVE, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND.

I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA.

YOU KNOW, COMPUTERS FROM POLICE, UH, POLICE CARS, THAT'S GREAT.

BUT I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE POLICE CARS THEMSELVES.

YOU KNOW, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, POLICE CARS ARE NOT THE FASTEST CARS.

I WISH THEY WOULD BE, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED.

THAT WAS MY COMMENT ABOUT THIS ONE.

OH, OKAY.

ABOUT THE CARS, HUH? MORE ABOUT THE COMPUTERS.

IF YOU'RE PUTTING GOOD COMPUTERS IN CARS, YOU GOTTA UPGRADE THE, THE CARS, YOU KNOW, , THAT'S MY COMMENT.

OH, YOU WANNA STAY FOR THE OTHER ONES? WELL, YEAH, YEAH.

MIGHT AS WELL STAY UP THERE.

BUT I, I WILL SAY MAYBE WE COULD DO WHAT BOISE IDAHO DID.

WHAT'S THAT? UH, THEY CONVERTED ALL THEIR CARS OVER TO MUSTANGS AND, UH, SO YEAH.

BUT ANYWAY, THAT'LL MAKE IT A LITTLE FASTER.

I WANT THIS TO BE A PRIORITY IN THE NEXT QUESTION, .

SO THIS IS, UH, OKAY.

SO JUST HOLD ON AND WE'LL DEAL WITH THIS ONE.

THEN YOU MIGHT AS WELL STAY UP THERE FOR THE, WE GET INTO THE WARRANTS.

UM, THIS IS, UM, SO THIS IS FOR THE PURCHASE OF 32.

THE PANAS LIKE TOUGH BOOK.

UH, DO WE HAVE MOTION? SO MOVE.

GOT A MOTION.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? SEEING NONE, UH, PLEASE VOTE.

ALRIGHT, NEXT WE GO INTO WARRANTS.

AND THIS IS ITEM 11, 12, 14, AND 15.

WE'RE GONNA LET YOU ADDRESS ALL OF THEM.

JUST I'LL PUT IN GENERALITIES HERE.

FIRST OF ALL, I NOTICED WHAT HAPPENED TO THE CREDIT CARDS.

I MEAN, I, I SEE, YOU KNOW, ONE TIME THEY CAME HERE AND ALL THESE, ALL THESE REGISTERS, THEY HAD A LOT OF CREDIT CARD ACTIVITIES MM-HMM .

SO I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED TO THE CREDIT CARD ACTIVITY.

UM, THEN I NOTICED THAT, UH, ONE OF THE FINDINGS YOU HAVE IS THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, CHECKS HERE.

UM, THEY HAVE, IT'S GREAT THAT YOU HAVE THE DATES, THE CHECKS, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE DATES OF EXPENDITURES.

AND ONE OF THE AUDIT FINDINGS IS THAT THINGS WERE TRICKLING IN, YOU KNOW, TWO MONTHS LATER IS THEY COULDN'T CLOSE THE BOOKS.

UH, IF I'M CORRECTED, PLEASE CORRECT ME.

THEY COME IN SIX MONTHS LATER.

UNEXPECTED COSTS.

SO IT'D BE NICE TO NOT ONLY HAVE THE CHECK DATES, BUT IT'D BE NICE TO HAVE THE DATES OF THE EXPENDITURES TO SEE WHO, UH, SO WE CAN AVOID A FINDING AND GET MORE TIMELY INFORMATION.

UM, THEN WE HAVE, UM, CLOSING THE BOOKS.

LEMME SEE HERE.

UM, LEMME GO REAL QUICK HERE.

UM, THAT'S A GENERALITY.

UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, OH, UH, YOU KNOW, I SEE A LOT OF, UH, ONE OF THE FOOTNOTES IN THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS TALKS ABOUT LEGAL COST HERE.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALWAYS SAYING, WELL, YOU KNOW, IS MATERIAL, SINCE I HAVE MULTIPLE SUBJECTS, I CAN GET MORE TIME HERE.

OKAY? YES.

OTHER PART IS THAT, UM, THE MURAL PROJECTS HERE, YOU KNOW, I SEE, I, I LIKE THAT MURAL PROJECT AND I THINK IT'S GREAT, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE BEEN ASKING FOR IS WHERE'S THE STUDY THAT WAS MENTIONED THAT WOULD JUSTIFY THAT, YOU KNOW, THE COST WAS, UM, THE, THE COST WAS WORTH IT.

UH, SO, UM, SINCE WE HAVE MULTIPLE, UH, LEGAL ISSUES HERE, UM, ONE OF THE FOOTNOTES IN THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS TALKS ABOUT THAT THE, UH, THE ATTORNEY HAS TO DISCLOSE WHETHER THE FINDINGS ARE MATERIAL OR NOT.

UH, IF THERE'S A, A LIABILITY THAT SHOULD BE DISCLOSED IN THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS OF, YOU KNOW, POTENTIAL LAWSUITS AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.

BUT FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND FROM THE ATTORNEYS, THE ATTORNEYS HAVE NOT SAID THAT THERE'S ANY FINANCIAL LIABILITY THAT SHOULD BE RECOGNIZED.

SO TO ME, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF HOOPLA OVER NOTHING IF IT'S NOT IN THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS.

PAY ATTENTION TO NOTES.

THE NOTES ARE VERY TELLING ABOUT WHERE PEOPLE ARE GOING, AND I DON'T THINK PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT THESE NOTES.

UM, AND THAT SHOULD KILL A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS.

OKAY? THE

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THERE'S GONNA BE SOME SAVINGS, AND I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT SAVINGS.

IT WAS IN THE TENS OF THOUSANDS, BUT I'LL ASK JAMES FOR THAT, ED, SO I'LL GET THAT TO YOU.

YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY, SOMETIMES I ASK QUESTIONS AND I DON'T GET ANSWERS, , SO I JUST KEEP COMING BACK.

OKAY? SO, UM, LET'S SEE.

THAT'S, LET'S SEE HERE.

UM, THE LAST ONE HERE, UH, CREDIT CARDS AND, YOU KNOW, NOT DIRECTED AT YOU, MARCUS, BUT YOU KNOW, WHEN WE HAVE STATEMENTS AND WE DON'T GET INFORMATION BACK, YOU KNOW, IT JUST PUTS LITTLE DOUBT IN OUR HEAD WHETHER THE STATEMENTS WERE CORRECT AND IT, IT, IT, IT JEOPARDIZES THE CREDIBILITY OF WHO WHOSOEVER SAYING IT.

OKAY? SO, AND THAT GOES NOT ONLY FOR HIM, BUT FOR ALL OF YOU.

UM, SO, AND WHEN WE DON'T GET STATEMENTS OR EXPLANATIONS OF WHY WE SPENT THE MONEY THE WAY, WHEN, WHEN WE'RE, WHEN WE'RE ASKING QUESTIONS, THAT ANS THAT ALSO JEOPARDIZES THE CREDIBILITY.

SO I'VE ASKED A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW ARE, WHY ARE WE SPENDING THE MONEY THE WAY WE'RE SPENDING THEM IN BANNERS AND, AND ALL SORTS OF THINGS.

SO, SO THAT'S SHORT.

ALRIGHT, SO THAT IS ITEMS 9, 11, 12, 14, AND 15.

UNLESS YOU GUYS WANNA PULL ONE INDIVIDUALLY, WE CAN TAKE HIM AS A GROUP.

MR. RECORD.

SORRY.

NOT ON THESE.

BELIEVE IT OR NOT, HE, HE, HE, HE'S COMING UP LATER.

I'M PRETTY SURE I SAW HIM UNDER HERE.

NO, MAYBE NOT.

I THINK HE ALREADY, MR. CHAIR MOVED TO APPROVE.

11, 12, 14, AND 15 SECOND.

WHAT ABOUT 16? 16? WE ALREADY, WE ALREADY APPROVED.

YEAH, THOSE ARE JUST THE ONES THAT, THOSE ARE THE FOUR.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THAT.

UM, SO NO MORE DISCUSSION.

MOTION PROOF UNANIMOUSLY.

OKAY, NEXT WE GET

[10.1 Second Reading and Adoption of Land Use Code Amendment to Restore Omitted Sections 18.10.060, 18.11.120, 18.22.020, 18.30.310, 18.30.340 & 345.]

INTO PUBLIC HEARINGS.

FIRST ONE, TEN ONE.

THIS IS THE, UH, A SECOND READING AND ADOPTION OF THE LAND USE CODE AMENDMENTS AND, UH, TO RESTORE OMITTED SECTIONS.

UH, 18 POINT 10.0 6 0 18 POINT 11.120, I SHOULD SAY.

UH, ALSO THEN 18.2202, AND THEN, UH, 18.30310, AND 18.30340 AND 3 4 5.

SO WITH THAT, UM, IF THERE'S, UH, ANY STAFF REPORT, UH, DAVID WELCH, PRINCIPAL PLANNER PLANNING DIVISION.

UH, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR.

COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, THERE'S NO STAFF REPORT FOR THE SITE AT THIS TIME.

UH, THIS WAS PREVIOUSLY INTRODUCED AT A PRIOR COUNCIL MEETING.

UH, NO CHANGES WERE REQUESTED OR INFORMATION ASKED FOR.

SO I'M AVAILABLE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS.

UH, BUT THERE IS NO STAFF PRESENTATION.

THEREFORE, I WILL, UH, OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING UNLESS THERE WAS ANY QUESTIONS FROM HIM.

NOT I'LL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I HAVE, UH, LOOKS LIKE THREE SPEAKERS TOTAL AND, UH, SEE WHERE THE OTHER ONE WAS AT HERE.

OH, HERE IT IS.

UM, NO, ACTUALLY I'VE GOT LIKE FOUR SPEAKERS.

UH, ALICIA MORRISON TO BE FOLLOWED BY DOYLE MORRISON.

HAPPY NEW YEAR.

UM, I WAS READING THIS ON, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT WAS THE SECTION 18 POINT 11, THE NON-CONFORMING USES STRUCTURES AND PARCELS IS PROPOSED TO BE AMENDED TO READ AS FOLLOWS.

UH, THE INTERIM USES, I, THIS IS VERY CONFUSING AND CONVOLUTED, AND I WAS WONDERING IF IT IS POSSIBLE FOR THIS TO BE TABLED AND FOR STAFF TO DO A PRESENTATION SO THAT THE PUBLIC CAN HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT ALL OF THIS IS AND PERHAPS PROVIDE REAL EXAMPLES SO THAT WE COULD HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING.

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I ALSO HAVE A CONCERN, UH, ON 10.1 EXHIBIT A.

THE DRAFT CODE AMENDMENT FOR 18 POINT 11 A.

THE INNER USE OF LEGAL NONCONFORMANCE IF THEY LOSE THEIR NONCONFORMANCE STATUS DUE TO A LACK OF USE, IS, THIS IS ALL VERY WORDY.

CAN WE JUST REWRITE IT AND MAKE IT CLEAR? AND TO THE POINT BEFORE ACCEPTING THIS AMENDMENT, UM, IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE THAT BECAUSE IT'S SO WORDY, IT LEAVES IT OPEN TO INTERPRETATION LATER.

AND I THINK IT SHOULD BE DEFINED BEFORE YOU GUYS ACCEPT THE, THE, UH, THANK YOU.

THEN I BELIEVE WE HAVE TWO ON ZOOM.

MY NAME IS BECKY RAP AND I WANNA THANK YOU FOR BRINGING FORWARD THIS ORDINANCE AND FOR CLARIFYING LANGUAGE RELATED TO PERMITTED MARIJUANA ACTIVITY.

CLEAR CODE MATTERS AND WHEN REGULATIONS ARE PRECISE, THEY PROTECT NOT ONLY THE CITY LEGALLY, BUT ALSO THE RESIDENTS WHO RELY ON YOU TO UPHOLD PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY.

I ALSO WANNA IN, UM, EMPHASIZE THAT CLEAR CODE MUST BE PAIRED WITH ENFORCEMENT COMPLIANCE SHOULD NOT RELY ON SELF-REPORTING BY BUSINESSES TO BE EFFECTIVE, THE CITY MUST ROUTINELY CONDUCT INSPECTIONS AND VERIFICATIONS TO ENSURE EXISTING BUSINESSES ARE OPERATING FULLY WITHIN MUNICIPAL CODE REQUIREMENTS.

THIS IS ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT FOR YOUTH PROTECTION, AND THIS ORDINANCE DOES NOT REDUCE BUFFERS, EXPAND LOCATIONS, OR CREATE NEW, UM, ENTITLEMENTS.

HOWEVER, PROTECTIONS FOR SCHOOLS, PLAYGROUNDS, AND OTHER MINOR, MINOR ORIENTED FACILITIES ONLY FUNCTION WELL IF THEY'RE ACTIVELY ENFORCED.

SO I, I'D LIKE TO ASK THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER, UH, PERIODIC ENFORCEMENT REPORTS SO THE PUBLIC CAN UNDERSTAND HOW COMPLIANCE IS BEING MONITORED, MONITORED, AND HOW OFTEN INSPECTIONS ARE OCCURRING.

'CAUSE TRANSPARENCY AND ROUTINE OVERSIGHT ARE ESSENTIAL TO MAINTAINING PUBLIC TRUST.

AND MAYOR, THAT, UH, CONCLUDES OUR SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM.

OKAY, GOOD.

I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SO MOVED.

MR. MAY SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND.

THIS IS TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND FOR THE RECORD, ONE WRITTEN COMMENT FROM TED GOCH.

YES, THANK YOU.

UM, A NUMBER OF CONCERNS WERE BROUGHT UP.

I'LL LOOK TO, UH, DAVID, IF YOU, ANY COMMENTS YOU HAVE ON THAT.

UH, YES, MR. MAYOR.

UM, I'M NOT SURE WHAT WAS SPOKEN AT THE PREVIOUS MEETING, UH, THE, AT THE INITIAL PUBLIC HEARING.

UM, BUT THIS ITEM WAS SPECIFICALLY BROUGHT FORWARD DUE TO ESSENTIALLY AN ERROR.

UM, WE WERE WORKING ON OUR FOCUSED DURING PLAN UPDATE, WHICH WAS LED BY A CONSULTANT TEAM.

UM, AT THE SAME TIME, STAFF CONTINUED TO DO ITS NORMAL DAY-TO-DAY EFFORTS WITH THE CITY.

UM, AND DUE TO THE LENGTH OF TIME OF THAT TITLE 18 UPDATE, THE LARGE ONE, UM, WE BECAME AWARE LATE IN THE GAME THAT, UM, THEY DID NOT INCLUDE OUR UPDATES.

AND SO ALL THESE ARE SECTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN PREVIOUSLY INTRODUCED BY OUR PLANNING COMMISSION, CONSIDERED BY OUR PLANNING COMMISSION AT PUBLIC HEARING BROUGHT FORWARDED TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

UH, ALL THESE ITEMS HAD STAFF PRESENTATIONS.

UM, IT'S, THERE'S NOTHING THAT HASN'T REALLY BEEN CONSIDERED OR APPROVED PREVIOUSLY.

SO THIS IS JUST MAINLY FIXING A TEXT ERROR, UM, FROM THE APPROVAL DURING OUR FOCUSED ROUND PLAN UPDATE BACK IN 2023.

UM, SO STAFF IS JUST BRINGING THIS HERE TO FIX AN ERROR THAT WAS MADE AND THERE WAS NO CONSIDERATION AS TO ANY CHANGES TO POLICY OR ANYTHING OF THAT MATTER.

SO THIS BASICALLY IS THE POLICY WE'VE HAD.

WE'RE JUST CONTINUING THE SAME POLICY, BUT THERE'S SOME OMISSION IN THERE THAT WAS NEED TO BE DEALT WITH.

IT'S MERELY A, ALMOST LIKE A WRITTEN ERROR.

IF I COULD TO OUR ATTORNEY, UM, AND I KNOW, UH, MR. MORRISON MAY HAVE BROUGHT UP SAY, SOME OF THE LANGUAGE THAT'S CONFUSING IS THAT BECAUSE IT'S IN LEGALESE, I, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE, BUT LAND USE CODE IS OFTEN CONVOLUTED.

SO IT'S JUST THE KIND OF NATURE OF THOSE CODES.

MEMBER YOUR MONEY.

THAT HAS TO GO BACK TO ANOTHER, UM, PUBLIC HEARING? YES.

UM, SO, UH, THROUGH THE CHAIR COUNSEL, IF THERE ARE, UM, CORRECTION OF LANGUAGE OR LANGUAGE STREAMLINE, IS THAT SOMETHING

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IF THERE WERE ANY CHANGES, WE'D HAVE TO REINTRODUCE AND START OVER.

'CAUSE WE ALREADY WENT THROUGH INTRODUCTION.

THIS IS, THIS IS FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION AT THIS POINT.

SO, UM, MR. MAYOR, I WAS JUST READING THIS 18 POINT 12 A I'M CONFUSED MYSELF.

SO, SO I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, REVISING THOSE LANGUAGE, DID YOU SEE THIS COUNCIL, HAVE YOU SEEN THIS OF DOCUMENT? WELL, IT WAS, IT WAS PREVIOUSLY REVIEWED AND APPROVED WITH THE INTRODUCTION AND THE, AS THE PLANNING COMMISSION PROCESS.

SO I HAVEN'T, BUT OUR TEAM HAS.

UM, MAYOR, IS IT POSSIBLE TO, UH, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IF WE HAVE TO REINTRODUCE IT AND, UH, LOOK AT THIS LANGUAGE TO STREAMLINE IT AND TO PUT SOME, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, UM, WHICH, WHICH, WHICH PAGE ARE YOU LOOKING AT? I'M LOOKING AT PAGE 1 98 OR ONE THAT, UM, MR. MORRISON HAD SAID IS 18.11 A MM-HMM .

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I, I THINK THEY, THAT COMMENT WAS RELEVANT.

WHEN YOU SAY USE OF BUILDINGS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY LEGAL, NON-CONFORMING AND LOST THEIR NONCONFORMING STATUS.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE THIS MORE UNDERSTANDABLE TO, TO THE, THE, UM, YOU MEAN TO LAY OR TO THE LAY PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT LEGAL LEGALLY? I, I, I THINK THIS WAS ORIGINALLY PUT IN BECAUSE OF HAVING SOME BUILDINGS THAT HAD BEEN ALLOWED TO LAPSE ON THEIR NON-CONFORMING STATUS.

SO IN OTHER WORDS, THEY HAD SET VACANT FOR 12 MONTHS OR, OR MORE, AND THEREFORE BY STATE LAW THEY LOSE, LOSE THAT.

BUT INSTEAD GIVING AN ALLOWANCE FOR THEIR, YOU STILL GOT A BUILDING SITTING THERE AND NOW IT'S NOT BEING ALLOWED TO BE USED FOR ITS OWN PURPOSE.

WE HAVE SOME, UH, SOME HERE ON NATIONAL CITY BOULEVARD THAT ARE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, BUT THEY WERE ZONED, UH, FOR RESIDENTIAL.

AND THEN THEY SET THERE MORE THAN 12 MONTHS, THEY LOST THEIR NON-CONFORMING STATUS AS COMMERCIAL.

BUT THIS WOULD'VE STILL ALLOW THEM FOR US TO PUT AN INTERIM USE, WHICH WOULD HAVE A TIMELINE AND TO ALLOW THEM TO BE PUT INTO USE SO THAT, SO THEY'RE NOT SITTING THERE VACANT AND CAN BE MOVED OVER TO THE, UH, TO THE, UH, ACCEPTABLE USE.

AM I SAYING THAT RIGHT? UH, I THINK THAT IS A PRETTY GOOD SUMMARY.

UM, YEAH, THAT SECTION WAS SPECIFICALLY ADDED TO ADDRESS.

WE DO HAVE SOME AREAS THAT HAVE A LOT OF COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS THAT ARE NOW RESIDENTIAL ZONES ESSENTIALLY.

UM, SO, UH, THERE HAVE BEEN A FEW COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS THAT HAVE BEEN SITTING VACANT WITH ESSENTIALLY NO USE OF THOSE BUILDINGS DUE TO THE CONSTRUCTION OF THEM.

UM, WE HAVE HAD ONE APPROVAL FOR AN INTERIM USE PERMIT, UM, AND THAT'S ON NATIONAL CITY BOULEVARD.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE ONE IN PROGRESS RIGHT NOW, UH, FOR ANOTHER BUSINESS THAT'S TRYING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS.

UM, IT'S ALSO IN TEMPORARY NATURE.

SO THIS IS NOT A, A USE APPROVAL, IT'S, IT'S, YOU'RE ALLOWED TO OPERATE THIS BUSINESS FOR A SET AMOUNT OF TIME, UH, WITH A POTENTIAL TO EXTEND FOR A MAXIMUM OF SEVEN YEARS.

UM, STAFF IS, UM, CONSIDERING BRINGING FORWARD SOME TITLE 18 AMENDMENTS SOMETIME MAYBE LATER THIS YEAR.

UM, SO IF WE DO HAVE SOME LANGUAGE THAT IS IN TITLE 18 THAT WE THINK WE MIGHT IMPROVE UPON MM-HMM .

UM, YOU KNOW, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT WITH STAFF.

UH, I WILL ALSO MENTION, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS REVIEWED BY LEGAL, OF COURSE, UM, LEGAL NONCONFORMITIES ARE, IT'S A VERY TECHNICAL SECTION OF OUR CODE, AND I THINK THE LANGUAGE THAT'S HERE AS I'M READING IT RIGHT NOW SEEMS FAIRLY ACCURATE.

UM, SO I'D BE CAREFUL ABOUT TRYING TO MAKE IT MORE SIMPLE, UH, WHEN IT HAS A VERY SPECIFIC LEGAL PURPOSE.

SO THIS WOULD NOT BE FOR NEW PROJECTS, THIS IS FOR EXISTING BUILDINGS THAT ARE BASICALLY ARE SITTING VACANT AND ALLOWS THEM TO BE PUT INTO TEMPORARY USE SO THAT THEY CAN MOVE INTO WHATEVER THEIR, WHAT THEIR DESIGNATED USE SHOULD BE.

SO, AND AS YOU'RE SAYING, YOU'RE BRINGING BACK SOME TITLE 18 STUFF LATER, POSSIBLY LATER THIS YEAR.

AND SO IF WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT SOME LANGUAGE, THAT'D PROBABLY BE THE PROPER TIME TO DO IT INSTEAD OF STARTING THE PROCESS OVER RIGHT NOW.

THAT'S OKAY WITH EVERYONE.

THAT'S FINE.

UM, THE, UH, SO IF YOU GUYS, UH, CAN WE GET A MOTION ONE WAY OR ANOTHER ON THIS ONE? UH, MAYOR, BEFORE YOU VOTE, THERE ARE OTHER ZOOM SPEAKERS NOW AVAILABLE.

YEAH, WE DID CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING.

YEAH, I'M SORRY.

WE DO, WE DO HAVE TWO TWO, UH, ZOOMS ON THAT.

I'M SORRY.

YEAH, SHE WASN'T AVAILABLE EARLIER, HUH? YEAH, SHE WASN'T AVAILABLE EARLIER.

WAS PUTTING MY KIDS TOGETHER, SO I JUST JUMPED BACK ON.

ARE THEY, ARE THEY, ARE THEY AVAILABLE NOW? YES, SIR.

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THOUGHT I GOT CAUGHT IN HERE.

SO, AS A PARENT OF YOUNG CHILDREN HERE, I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THE PERSPECTIVE THAT LAND USE DECISIONS LIKE THIS DON'T JUST AFFECT BUSINESSES.

THEY ALSO AFFECT THE ENVIRONMENT THAT OUR KIDS GROW UP IN.

SO WITH THIS PROPOSED AMENDMENTS, UM, I WOULD JUST SUGGEST THAT WITH MARIJUANA ACTIVITY PERMITTED UNDER CHAPTER 9.6 TO REMOVE PRIOR LAND USE SECTIONS RELATED TO CULTIVATION, MY CONCERN IS THAT THESE LAND USE DECISIONS AFFECT THE DAILY ENVIRONMENTS OUR KIDS GROW UP IN.

SO WHEN COMMERCIAL MARIJUANA ACTIVITY IS ALLOWED THROUGH ZONING, EVEN IF REGULATED ELSEWHERE, IT BECOMES MORE PRESENT, MORE VISIBLE, AND MORE NORMALIZED IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

IN A DENSE CITY LIKE NATIONAL CITY, THAT MEANS KIDS ARE MORE LIKELY TO SEE IT, WALK PAST IT AND GROW UP THINKING IT'S JUST ANOTHER ORDINARY STOREFRONT.

PUBLIC HEALTH EXPERTS ARE CLEAR THAT MARIJUANA USE IS HARMFUL TO DEVELOPING BRAINS.

NORMALIZATION MATTERS, EXPOSURE MATTERS, AND ZONING IS ONE OF THE STRONGEST TOOLS YOU HAVE TO LIMIT THAT EXPOSURE.

SO I URGE YOU, AS YOU ADOPT THIS ORDINANCE, TO EXERCISE YOUR POWER CONSERVATIVELY AND PLACE STRONG LAND USE RESTRICTIONS WHERE MARIJUANA BUSINESSES CAN OPERATE, INCLUDING BUFFER ZONES FROM SCHOOLS, PARKS, AND RESIDENTIAL AREAS.

STRICT LIMITS ON CONCENTRATION AND CLEAR CONTROLS ON VISIBILITY.

ONCE THE ZONING ALLOWS THESE USES, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO UNDO THE IMPACT.

UM, IF AGAIN, THANK YOU.

I BELIEVE EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT LISTED IN THIS SECTION, IT IS LESS, I THINK THE CONCERNS THAT WERE JUST BROUGHT UP ARE LISTED OVER IN SECTION, UH, 9.60, UH, WHICH GIVES THE DEFINITION OF, OF WHERE THEY CAN BE LOCATED WHEN THEY CAN'T.

I REMEMBER, RIGHT.

UM, THE O OMITTED SECTION JUST SPECIFICALLY MODIFIED THE, THE PROHIBITION TO POINT TO THAT SECTION, SAY IT'S ALLOWED IN THESE CIRCUMSTANCES.

DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE? I THINK WE ALREADY, ALREADY TOOK CARE OF, OF, UH, BECKY.

UM, WITH THAT THEN WE NEED, WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE BEFORE WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? MR. MAYOR MOVE TO APPROVE SECOND READING AS, UH, RECOMMENDED BY STAFF.

I SECOND THE MOTION.

WE HAVE MOTION AND A SECOND.

OOPS.

SO YOU, NO MORE DISCUSSION.

UH, PLEASE VOTE.

10.2 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE ADOPTING THE 2025 CALIFORNIA FIRE CODE AND APPENDAGES, UH, THERE TOO.

ALRIGHT, SO NEXT WE GO TO

[10.2 Second Reading and Adoption of an Ordinance Adopting the 2025 California Fire Code and the Appendices thereto, Adopting the National Fire Protection Association Standards, and Amending Chapter 15.28 of the National City Municipal Code.]

ADOPTING THE NATIONAL CITY FIRE PROTECTION ASSOCIATION STANDARDS AND AMENDING CHAPTER 15 POINT 28 OF THE NATIONAL CITY MUNICIPAL CODE.

ANY STAFF REPORT? NOTHING NEW ON THAT, MAYOR.

IT'S OKAY.

JUST A SIMPLE ADOPTION OF THE, UH, NEW CODES.

WITH THAT, I WILL, UNLESS THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF, I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON THAT ONE.

AND SO WE HAVE A MOTION.

WOULD YOU CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? OKAY.

MOTION TO CLOSE.

WE HAVE, WE HAVE A SECOND ON THAT.

AND A SECOND.

WILL PLEASE VOTE ON CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING MOTION APPROVE UNANIMOUSLY.

UM, WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE? MOVE TO ADOPT THE ORDINANCE.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

THERE WE ARE.

SEEING NO DISCUSSION, PLEASE VOTE.

WE GO TO 10.3 AMENDMENTS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES AND BUILDING DEPARTMENT FEES IN THE 2025 CITY OF NATIONAL CITY MASTER FEE SCHEDULE.

[10.3 Amendments to the Neighborhood Services and Building Department Fees in the 2025 City of National City Master Fee Schedule]

ALRIGHT, STAFF, ANYTHING ON THAT ONE? GOOD EVENING, MARIN.

UH, CITY COUNCIL SAMUEL MARIN BUILDING OFFICIAL, UM, THERE'S NO PRESENTATION FOR THIS.

THIS IS, UH, REVISITING THE USER FEES THAT WERE ORIGINALLY ADOPTED AT THE, UH, JUNE 3RD MEETING, UM, AND WENT INTO EFFECT AUGUST 6TH, 2025.

STAFF FROM NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND PUBLIC WORKS ENGINEERING, UH, ARE PROPOSING A HANDFUL OF REVISIONS TO THE ADOPTED SCHEDULE, UH, TO BETTER MEET OPERATIONAL NEEDS, COST EFFECTNESS, UH, AND CLEAN UP SOME UNNEEDED OR UNUSED FEES,

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UH, FROM PAST, UH, REVISE SOME FEE TITLES TO MAKE SCHEDULES EASIER TO INTERPRET FOR BOTH STAFF AND THE PUBLIC.

THAT I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER, UH, EDWARD EDO.

WE HAVE ONE WRITTEN COMMENT FROM TED GODSHAW.

ALSO, THIS IS SORT OF THE SAME, SAME, UM, THEME.

YOU KNOW, I I, I, I REMEMBER GOING TO THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEETING AND THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT COST ALLOCATION PLAN AND HOW IT'S CAL USED IN THE, IN THE FEE CALCULATION CONSULTANT WHO DID IT, I GUESS.

AND I JUST DIDN'T GET A GOOD FEELING THAT A LOT OF THESE FEES REALLY COVER THE COST.

AND I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE LOGIC.

WELL, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS GONNA VOTE ON IT, BUT I THINK IT COULD BE, IT PROBABLY COULD BE A BETTER JOB IN MAKING SURE THAT WE IDENTIFY THOSE FEES THAT COULD BE FULL COST RECOVERY.

AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE FULL COST RECOVERY, WHICH I UNDERSTAND THERE'S POLITICAL REASONS NOT TO HAVE IT DONE, BUT AT LEAST IT'D BE CLEARLY IDENTIFIED AND NOT, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY JUST CALL UP AND SAY, WELL, PLEASE DON'T RAISE MY FEES.

YOU KNOW, , THAT'S A, TO APPEASE POLITICAL, UH, CAMPAIGNING, WHAT CAN I SAY? ALRIGHT.

UH, WITH THAT, I SAY WE DO HAVE THE ONE WRITTEN COMMENT FROM TED OCK.

UH, COULD WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? OKAY.

A MOTION.

AND I'LL SECOND.

AND WE HAVE A SECOND.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

PLEASE VOTE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I DO HAVE A, THIS IS TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING OR TO VOTE? YEAH, THIS IS CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

NOW THEN, UH, WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE? OKAY, YEAH, YEAH.

UM, MORE OF A COMMENT AND THANK YOU TO STAFF FOR, UH, HOLDING THIS OVER FOR, FOR MONTHS NOW.

I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO HAVE A BROADER DISCUSSION ABOUT DEVELOPMENT IN OUR CITY AND HOW DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEES ULTIMATELY HAVE AN IMPACT ON THAT.

UM, OTHER CITIES, UH, OUR NEIGHBOR TO SOUTH SOUTH HAS ACTUALLY BEEN, UM, UH, UH, VERY CREATIVE WHEN IT COMES TO THEIR DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEES, THEIR FEE SCHEDULES.

AND WHEN THEY ASK THE DEVELOPERS TO PAY THEM, OFTENTIMES FOR DEVELOPMENT THAT WE WANT TO INCENTIVIZE, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO PUT ON THE BACKEND, THE DEVELOPMENT IMPACT PIECE, NOT ON THE FRONT END.

IT MAKES FINANCING FOR DEVELOPMENT SO MUCH EASIER.

AND, UM, SO I DO THINK WE NEED TO GET CREATIVE.

I WILL BE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS AT THE MOMENT, BUT, UH, THERE IS A, UH, A POTENTIAL, UM, UH, SUBCOMMITTEE THAT I'M DEFINITELY INTERESTED IN LOOKING AT THIS, UH, VERY SPECIFIC, UH, FOR DEVELOPMENT OF HOME OWNERSHIP UNITS.

BUT I DO THINK WE NEED TO WORK WITH THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY TO OFFSET SOME OF THESE COSTS AT A LATER TIME IN ORDER TO INCENTIVIZE DEVELOPMENT, UM, AND, AND CAPITAL FOR DEVELOP DEVELOPERS.

AND I'M TALKING ABOUT SOMEBODY JUST BUILDING AN A DU OR SOMEBODY BUILDING A A, A SMALL COMPLEX, UH, THE BIGGEST OBSTACLE IS CAPITAL, AND THAT MEANS MONEY.

AND SO THE MORE MONEY THEY NEED TO PUT DOWN AT THE BEGINNING, THE MORE DIFFICULT IT IS FOR, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT OF PENCIL OUT.

AND SO IT'S SOMETHING I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO DISCUSSING IN THE, IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

I WAS GONNA SUPPORT THAT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER.

UM, BUT IT'S A DIFFERENT ITEM.

THIS IS FOR USER FEES AND, UM, THIS, THE, THE STAFF JUST REVISITED AND MADE, UH, A STREAMLINED, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, TWO, TWO, UH, USER FEES THAT BECAME ONE.

SO THAT WAS REVISITED.

AND SO THIS IS TO STREAMLINE THAT AND, AND THEY CAUGHT SOME CORRECTIONS.

SO, BUT THE DIF WILL COME FORWARD, WILL, WILL BE NEXT COUNCIL MEMBERS.

SO, UM, MOVE TO, UH, OH, SORRY.

THERE'S ANOTHER ONE.

FROM THE STATE REGARDING THE ENFORCEMENT OF THE DAY LIGHTING FEE OR THE DAY LIGHTING LAW IS, AM I READING THIS CORRECTLY? UH, NO.

UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION.

I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

UM, FIRST THANK YOU FOR ADDING THE PARAGRAPH REGARDING THE DAY LIGHTING FEE.

UM, I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS.

UM, YOU STATE ON HERE AND AND DAY LIGHTING FOR, FOR FOLKS THAT DON'T KNOW IS THAT SPACE, UH, AROUND CURBS ON THE STREET WHERE FOLKS ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO PARK.

AND IT IS SUPPOSED SOME CURBS, IT IS SUPPOSED TO ALLOW FOR BETTER VISIBILITY TO DRIVERS, RIGHT? SO, UM, IT, IT MAKES FOR PARKING, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE EVEN TOUGHER.

BUT, UM, I HAVE RECEIVED MANY, UM, INQUIRIES ABOUT DAY LIGHTING AND WHETHER CARS ARE ILLEGALLY PARKED BECAUSE OF THE DAY LIGHTING LAW.

AND THE PARAGRAPH HERE ACTUALLY SAYS THAT WE ARE WAITING FOR DIRECTION

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THAT LAW CAME INTO EFFECT IN JANUARY OF 2025 AND WE'VE BEEN ACTIVELY ENFORCING IT.

OH YEAH.

SO ENGINEERING DEPARTMENTS SEND OUT, UH, INFORMATIONAL FLYERS TO EVERY RESIDENT IN THE CITY.

UH, WE GAVE A GRACE PERIOD WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC.

OUR PARKING OFFICERS ARE WRITING WARNINGS INSTEAD OF CITATIONS.

AND, UH, WE CONTINUE TO DO THAT.

A LOT OF PEOPLE STILL DON'T KNOW ABOUT THIS, UH, DAYLIGHTING LOSS.

SO WE STILL, WE'RE STILL WRITING SOME WARNINGS.

ONCE YOU'VE BEEN WARNED, THEN WE MOVE FORWARD WITH AN OFFICIAL CITATION.

WHAT IS THE SENTENCE HERE? THE DAYLIGHTING FEES WERE NOT INCLUDED IN THE FEE SCHEDULE THAT WAS ADOPTED IN JUNE BECAUSE CITY STAFF REQUIRED DIRECTION FROM THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.

UM, YEAH.

OF COURSE.

SO, UM, NOT ONLY WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES FEES, BUT ALSO THE OTHER TWO THAT WERE INCLUDED FOR BUILDING AND, AND PUBLIC WORKS ENGINEERING.

UM, ONCE THE ORIGINAL, UM, USER FEES WERE ADOPTED AT THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEETING OF JUNE 3RD, AND THEN WENT INTO EFFECT AUGUST 6TH, 2025, STAFF THEN NOTICED THAT THERE WERE SOME ADDITIONS THAT NEEDED TO BE MADE OR CHANGES THAT NEEDED TO BE MADE TO THE USER FEES, THIS BEING ONE OF THEM.

SO I BELIEVE THAT THE DIRECTION FROM THE STATE CAME IN IN JANUARY.

BUT, UM, AS FAR AS LIKE THE DAYLIGHT PART OF IT, THAT THAT WOULD BE WHAT RONNIE WOULD BE ENFORCING.

BUT AS FAR AS IT BEING PRESENTED NOW, YES, AT THE TIME WHEN THE ORIGINAL ADOPTION WAS MADE, THIS IS JUST REVISITING THAT.

GOT IT, GOT IT.

SO IS IT IN THE FEE SCHEDULE NOW? YES.

WITH THIS, WITH THESE REVISIONS IS WHAT IS BEING PRESENTED NOW.

MY SECOND QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH, UM, BUILDING PROPOSES THAT THE FOLLOWING FEES BE DECREASED OR, UM, SOME OF THEM BE REMOVED.

I THINK I UNDERSTOOD FROM THE LANGUAGE IN THE REPORT THAT THE REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE OF SOME, UM, DUPLICITY IN SOME OF THAT.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE? I THINK, UH, MS. YAMANI ADDRESSED IT JUST A LITTLE BIT, BUT CAN YOU REPEAT IT TO ME ONE MORE TIME? ABSOLUTELY.

SO TO SPEAK, ON THE DECREASES, UM, SPECIFICALLY FOR, UM, COMMON PERMITS THAT WE ISSUE OVER THE COUNTER, SUCH AS WATER HEATERS, AIR CONDITIONING UNITS, FURNACES, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, SUBSIDIZING THOSE COSTS, INCENTIVIZE THE PUBLIC MORE TO COME IN AND PULL PERMITS TO DO IT, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS.

UM, TO NOT USE THE TERM LEGALLY, BUT LEGALLY GET IT PERMITTED AND, AND APPROVED AND SIGNED OFF BY CITY STAFF, CITY INSPECTOR, UM, TO VERIFY THAT IT'S SAFE AND ON ITS INSTALL.

SO SUBSIDIZING THAT RATHER THAN A LARGE UPFRONT COST FOR THE COMMUNITY, WE SUBSIDIZE THAT TO INCENTIVIZE CUSTOMERS TO COME IN AND ACTUALLY DO IT THE RIGHT WAY.

UM, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM.

UM, FOR YOUR SECOND QUESTION, AS FAR AS THE REMOVAL, YES.

THE POINT OF THAT WAS SIMPLY BECAUSE OF DDU DUPLICITY, IT WAS, IT MADE IT EASIER TO STAFF AND I, I BELIEVE THE PUBLIC TO BETTER INTERPRET OUR FEE SCHEDULE.

SO THERE WERE SOME FEES THAT WE JUST DID NOT USE, UM, FOR INSTANCE, A GRAY WATER SYSTEM PER HOUR.

MY, AFTER TALKING WITH MY STAFF WHO HAVE BEEN HERE FOR QUITE SOME TIME, THEY HAVEN'T SEEN THE USE OF THAT PERMIT FEE IN PROBABLY THE LAST 10 YEARS.

SO, UM, WE, WE THOUGHT THAT IT'D BE BEST JUST TO CLEAN UP THE FEE SCHEDULE JUST SO THAT WE'RE NOT HAVING TO THUMB THROUGH 20 PAGES OF HALF OF 'EM BEING USELESS FEES.

SO, UH, MORE OF A CLEANUP APPROACH TO IT, RIGHT.

SO IT'S EASIER TO INTERPRET.

THANK YOU FOR THIS.

UH, I KNOW THERE'S BEEN, UM, AN EFFORT TO MAKE THE, THE WHOLE DEPARTMENT, THE WHOLE, WHOLE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, UH, CUSTOMER FRIENDLY, YOU KNOW, MORE USER FRIENDLY.

SO I DO APPRECIATE THE EFFORT AND ALSO, UM, YOU KNOW, THE DECREASE IN THE FEES.

SOUNDS LIKE THAT, UH, EFFORT IS ALSO UNDERWAY.

SO I DO APPRECIATE THE WORK.

ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT MOTION TO APPROVE RECOMMENDATION BY STAFF MAYOR.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON OUR BUILDING DEPARTMENT FEES AND, UH, PLEASE VOTE.

NOW WE COME TO THE PUBLIC HEARING ON OUR DEVELOPMENT IMPACT, UH, FEE SCHEDULE.

NEXT,

[10.4 Public Hearing - 2025 Development Impact Fees Schedule]

AND THIS IS 10.4.

AND ANY STAFF REPORT ON THIS ONE? YES, WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM DTA THAT WILL PRESENT THE, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEES.

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MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS LENNY ZARATE.

I'M A VICE PRESIDENT FROM DTA.

WE CALCULATED THE PROPOSED MAXIMUM DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEES AND COMPLIANCE WITH AB 1600, AB 6 0 2 UNDER THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS OF GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 66,000 EC.

THE UPDATED DEVELOPMENT FEES ARE STRUCTURED TO COVER A PORTION OF NEW FACILITIES, LAND, VEHICLES, AND EQUIPMENT.

STATED IN 2020 $5 IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE FEES GENERATED BY THIS FEE STUDY REPRESENTED THE MAXIMUM DIFFS OR DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEES.

AND THE CITY IS FREE TO ADJUST THESE FEES AT ANY LEVEL UP TO THE MAXIMUM.

WE HAVE A SHORT PRESENTATION TO PREPARE AT THE END OF THE PRESENTATION.

SHOULD YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

SO WHAT ARE THEY, WHAT ARE IMPACT FEES? THE BASICS OF THEM ARE, THEY'RE A ONE-TIME FEE ASSESSED TO RECOVER INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS REQUIRED TO SERVE NEW DEVELOPMENT.

DIFFS ARE PROVIDED AN ADDITIONAL FUNDING TOOL FOR NEW INFRASTRUCTURE PER AB 6 0 2.

LOCAL GOVERNMENTS MUST PREPARE A NEXUS STUDY EVERY EIGHT YEARS.

A FEE CANNOT INCLUDE COST ATTRIBUTABLE TO EXISTING DEFICIENCIES.

THE DIFFS THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT TO BE UPDATED HAVEN'T BEEN UPDATED IN ALMOST 22 YEARS.

SO EVEN THOUGH AB 6 0 2 REQUIRES EVERY EIGHT YEARS, WE'RE A LITTLE BEHIND.

SO WE'VE CAUGHT UP.

SO YOU'LL SEE THAT, THAT IN THE COSTS, UM, WE WILL BE LOOKING AT THE CITY ADMINISTRATION FEE, POLICE, FIRE, LIBRARY, PARKS, AND MULTIMODAL.

THE NEXUS STUDY OR THE METHODOLOGY BEHIND HOW WE CALCULATED, UH, OUR FEES ARE BASED ON CITY ADMINISTRATION, POLICE, FIRE, LIBRARY, AND PARKS, ALL BEING A LEVEL OF SERVICE, MEANING THE CURRENT SERVICE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING TODAY, WE WILL DO THE SAME FOR THE NEW DEVELOPMENT COMING IN.

SO HOW DO WE DO THAT? IT'S BASED ON THE EXISTING STANDARD THAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE.

MULTIMODAL THOUGH WAS BASED ON A PLAN BASE.

SO IT, WE, UH, RECEIVED THE NEEDS LIST TO IDENTIFY WHAT NEEDED TO BE FINANCED, UH, AND PAID FOR IN THE FUTURE UNDER MULTIMODAL.

SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, UM, METHODOLOGY THAN THE REMAINING, UH, FEES.

THE BASIS OF ALLOCATION.

THE CITY ADMINISTRATION LOOKED AT RESIDENTIAL AND EMPLOYEES.

SO BOTH, UM, CONTRIBUTED TO THE CITY ADMINISTRATION FEE.

POLICE AND FIRE LOOKS AT RESIDENTIAL EMPLOYEES AND VISITORS.

LIBRARY IS PERSON SERVED.

PARKS, IT'S, IT'S THE NUMBER OF ACRES PER 1000 RESIDENTS AND MULTIMODAL, WE UTILIZED PEAK HOUR TRIPS.

SO THESE ARE THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE FEES THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING BASED ON ALL OF THE LAND, THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE, UH, FEES BASED ON TODAY'S POPULATION.

THE RESIDENTIAL FEES ARE FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS, MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTS, AND MOBILE HOMES, AND ARE ON A PER SQUARE FOOT BASIS.

SORRY.

UH, I THINK YOU'RE ONE SLIDE BACK.

UH, RESIDENTIAL FEES AGAIN ARE THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS, MULTIFAMILY AND MOBILE HOME.

AND THEY'RE BASED ON A PER SQUARE FOOT BASIS, WHICH IS A REQUIREMENT OF AB 6 0 2.

HOTEL FEES ARE PER ROOM AND NON-RESIDENTIAL FEES ARE PER 1000 SQUARE FEET.

SO THESE ARE THE PROPOSED, AGAIN, MAXIMUM FEES THAT ARE ALLOWABLE.

UM, THESE ARE THE CURRENT FEES THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN PLACE.

UM, AND I'M SORRY I DON'T HAPPEN TO HAVE THE SLIDE ON MY SHEET, BUT FOR SINGLE FAMILY, FOR EXAMPLE, IS 1475.

AND WHAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT IS THE INCREASE OF THE FEES BY ABOUT THREE TIMES THAT.

SO THIS JUST GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THE CURRENT FEE SCHEDULE IS.

THE NEXT SLIDE GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT YOUR SURROUNDING JURISDICTIONS AND ARE COMPARED TO.

UM, THERE'S A FINE LINE BETWEEN MAKING SURE DEVELOPMENT CAN STILL BUILD AND THAT YOU CAN BUILD WITH THE EXISTING FEES THAT YOU'RE GONNA BE COLLECTING.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THE CURRENT NATIONAL CITY FEES WERE 4,162 AND WE'RE PROPOSING A NEW MAXIMUM OF 15,761 IN COMPARISON TO SAY CHULA VISTA, FOR EXAMPLE, WHO IS TWICE THAT 31,141 UH, DOLLARS.

AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE VARYING ADDITIONAL, UM, CITIES.

CARLSBAD IS 15,202.

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UM, IMPERIAL BEACH IS 5,943.

I WOULD LIKE TO JUST POINT OUT THAT THESE FEES ARE CAPTURED AS WHATEVER INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE ON THE INTERNET.

SO IS IT A TRUE COMPARISON BETWEEN EACH OF THE FEES MAY OR MAY NOT BE BECAUSE THE, ANOTHER CITY MAY HAVE ADDITIONAL FEES THAT NATIONAL CITY DOES NOT HAVE.

SO PLEASE KEEP IT THAT IN MIND ONCE YOU'RE REVIEWING THIS.

SO OUR FINDINGS AND OUR UPDATES PER AB 6 0 2 RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEES ARE TO BE CALCULATED BASED ON THE SQUARE FOOTAGE BASIS AS WE HAVE PROJECTED, UH, THAT INCLUDES SINGLE FAMILY MULTIFAMILY AND, UM, MOBILE HOMES.

UH, THERE, THERE DOES NOT HAVE TO BE A MAXIMUM, UH, CEILING TO THAT, BUT WE DID PROVIDE THAT SO THAT THE RESIDENTS UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY ARE SUBJECT TO.

UM, HOTEL FEES ARE BASED ON A PER ROOM BASIS.

SO OTHER THAN, UM, INDUSTRIAL, COMMERCIAL, ET CETERA, WHICH ARE ON THE PER THOUSAND BASIS, HOTELS ARE BASED ON A PER ROOM BASIS.

FINALLY, OUR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING RELATED TO THE UPDATED CITY DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEES, ADOPT A RESOLUTION APPROVING AND UPDATING OF THE PUBLIC FACILITIES DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEE SCHEDULE AND AMENDING THE CITY'S FEE SCHEDULE, APPROVE AN ANNUAL ESCALATOR TO THE DIFF FEES BASED ON THE CALIFORNIA CONSTRUCTION COST INDEX TO ACCOUNT FOR INFLATION AND ACQUISITION AND CONSTRUCTION COST.

THIS WAS NOT DONE IN YOUR PREVIOUS STUDY WHERE IT IS ANOTHER REASON FOR WHY YOU'LL SEE THE INCREASE SO LARGE.

AND FINALLY, WE ARE DTA RECOMMENDS THAT PER AB 6 0 2 THAT YOU UPDATE THE NEXUS STUDY EVERY EIGHT YEARS, UM, FROM THE PERIOD BEGINNING JANUARY 1ST, 2026.

HAVING SAID THAT, UM, IT MAY BE WORTH COMING BACK AND RE-LOOKING AT THIS BETWEEN THREE TO FIVE YEARS, DEPENDING UPON WHAT YOUR DEVELOPMENT STATUS IS.

THAT'S OUR RECOMMENDATIONS AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

I COULD ASK, IS THERE ANY HOUSING, 'CAUSE ALL, ALL THIS, YOUR BASING BASE, YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE STUFF IS ON HOUSING AND I KNOW YOU HAVE OTHER STUFF THERE ALSO, BUT ON THE HOUSING PORTION OF IT, ARE THERE ANY HOUSING THAT ARE EXEMPT FROM THESE FEES? UM, SO AN A DU FOR EXAMPLE, WHICH ONLY HAS 750 SQUARE FEET MM-HMM .

IS EXEMPT IN THAT CASE.

ANYTHING ABOVE THAT IS SUBJECT TO THE FEE.

MEMBER, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

SO, UM, THIS IS A LITTLE BIT SCARY.

UM, THE CHART ON, UH, SLIDE EIGHT, KIND OF, YOU KNOW, PRETTY MUCH IN, IN THAT ONE.

NO, NO.

THAT ONE PRETTY MUCH INDICATES, YOU KNOW, FEES RESIDENTIAL DIFFS IN THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY ARE TRIPLING.

BUT, UM, WHAT I HEARD YOU SAY IS WE HAVEN'T CHANGED OUR FEES IN 20 YEARS.

2222 YEARS.

YES MA'AM.

THIS MIGHT BE A DIFFICULT QUESTION, BUT IF WE HAD INCREASED OUR FEES EVERY YEAR, ANNUALLY IN THE LAST 22 YEARS, IF WE HAD INCREASED THEM ANNUALLY PER THE CALIFORNIA CONSTRUCTION COST INDEX, UM, WOULD WE HAVE HAVE ARRIVED AT THE 15, WHATEVER IT IS, 15 761? NOT NECESSARILY.

AND THE REASON IS, IS BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE POPULATION WAS OR THE CENSUS STATUS WAS 22 YEARS AGO AND IT MAY NOT HAVE COVERED THE SAME TYPES OF NEEDS THAT THE CITY HAS TODAY.

SO IT'S NOT A DIRECT RELATION AND CORRELATION THAT EVEN IF IT HAD YOU ESCALATED IT ALONG THE WAY THAT WE WOULD'VE ENDED UP HERE.

THESE ARE WHAT THE COSTS ARE TODAY FOR THE, UM, NEEDS OF THE CITY AND THE EXISTING POPULATION AND CENSUS DATA.

OKAY, THAT'S FAIR.

BUT I VENTURE TO GUESS WE WOULD'VE COME CLOSE OR AT LEAST THE GAP WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN SO SEVERE.

UM, THE POINT I'M TRYING TO MAKE IS IT DOES LOOK VERY SEVERE TODAY, BUT WE HAVE TO CONSIDER THAT THESE FEES HAVE NOT CHANGED IN THE LAST 22 YEARS AND THE NEED IS THERE AND IT IS NECESSARY TO MAKE THE CHANGE, MAKE THIS CORRECTION TODAY.

SO ALTHOUGH IT IS DIFFICULT TO MAKE THIS CHANGE, THE NEED IS THERE AND IT IS NECESSARY.

AND WE'RE ALSO RECOMMENDING THAT ON ONGOING FORWARD THAT YOU WILL HAVE THAT ESCALATOR IN PLACE BECAUSE IT'S A HUGE GAP.

I I CAN'T BUY A POLICE VEHICLE FOR $152,000 COMPLETELY LOADED TODAY ON 22-YEAR-OLD DATA.

UM, THE FEES ARE NOT SUB YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO TO COVER THE COSTS.

BETWEEN, OH WELL NATIONAL CITY BOULEVARD AND HIGHLAND, ONE SIDE OF THE STREET.

UH, IF I COULD JUST MAKE AN OBSERVATION, IF I LOOK THERE, I WE'RE SURROUNDED BY TWO CITIES, SAN DIEGO ON TWO SIDES, AND THEN WE GOT SHULA VISTA ON THE OTHER SIDE.

AND THEN OF COURSE WE HAVE THE BAY, THOSE TWO CITIES.

SO ON ONE SIDE OF DIVISION STREET, UH, BETWEEN THE, UH,

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EVEN IF WE GO BY THAT, FOR THAT HOUSE, IT WOULD BE 15,000 ROUNDED OFF.

IF YOU'RE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET IS $30,000.

'CAUSE THAT'S SAN DIEGO, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE JUST RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM EACH OTHER.

SAME THING WITH CHULA VISTA.

SO EVERYTHING THAT'S SURROUNDING US IS AT A MUCH, MUCH HIGHER LEVEL THAN WHERE WE WOULD BE EVEN IF WE WAS TO GO FULLY WITH THIS.

AND, UH, UM, SO IN SA DOES NOT INCLUDE ADU THAT ARE, THAT ARE WITHIN THE 750 FEET OF, WHICH I THINK IS WHAT MOST OF US THINK OF AN A DU INSTEAD OF A TRYING TO BUILD A FULL-SIZED HOUSE AND CALLING IT TO A DU.

UM, THE UH, UM, SO, SO WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT THAT AND WHAT ARE, WHAT WE'RE SURROUNDED WITH EVERYTHING AND HOW LOW WE'VE KEPT IT FOR SO LONG AND IT HASN'T RESTRICTED SINGLE FAMILY GROWTH AND EVERYTHING ELSE ALONG THAT LINE, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS WOULD MAKE THAT THAT BIG OF A DIFFERENCE, BUT IT WOULD BRING US CLOSER, BUT NOT, NOT EVEN HALFWAY, YOU KNOW, JUST ABOUT HALFWAY TO THOSE OUR NEIGHBORS THAT COMPLETELY SURROUND US.

THAT'S CORRECT.

COMMENTS, ANYTHING? UH, YES.

UH, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND UM, UH, THE DISCUSSION.

UM, I SUPPOSE IT'S MORE OF A COMMENT THAN A QUESTION, BUT, UM, WHEN IT COMES TO THE CITIES THAT HAVE THE HIGHER IMPACT FEES, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR NEIGHBORS IN PARTICULAR, SAN DIEGO AND CHULA VISTA, THERE'S OFTEN TIMES PROJECTS THAT ARE VERY LARGE IN SCALE.

IS THAT FAIR TO SAY? FAIR? IS IT EASIER FOR A DEVELOPER TO, TO, TO MAKE A, UH, LARGER PAYMENT IF INDEED THERE ARE MORE UNITS AVAILABLE WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT, THEIR, THEIR RATIO OF WHAT THEY'LL GET BACK IS MUCH HIGHER.

OBVIOUSLY THE MORE THAT YOU CAN DEVELOP AND THE, THE RATES THAT YOU PAID FOR, SO, RIGHT.

YEAH, I MEAN, THE REASON I ASK IS BECAUSE A SINGLE FAMILY HOME TO BE DEVELOPED FOR $15,000 INSTEAD OF FOUR.

THE SO, SO, SO AS WE'RE THINKING OF THE DEVELOPERS IN OUR CITY, IF IT'S INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE BUILDING ONE HOUSE OR TWO HOUSES, THE THE MARGIN IS MUCH SMALLER FOR THEM, EVEN IF IT IS HALF THE PRICE OF SAN DIEGO BECAUSE THE SAN DIEGO FOLKS ARE BUILDING MULTIPLE UNITS.

SO IT IS REALLY A NUMBERS GAME.

AND, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF SOME FOLKS HAVE VISITED EAST CHULA VISTA, THEY, IT'S AN ENTIRE CITY OUT THERE WITH BRAND NEW DEVELOPMENT.

SO I DO WANNA, AGAIN, HAVE A MORE KIND OF PROFOUND CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE'RE COMPARING APPLES TO APPLES.

I REALLY THINK IT'S APPLES TO ORANGES BECAUSE IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT KIND OF DEVELOPMENT THAT WE ARE EXPERIENCING THROUGHOUT THE REGION.

ANOTHER THING, THOSE CITIES ARE NOT LANDLOCKED AS WE ARE, AND AS A RESULT CONTINUE TO GROW.

AND AS A RESULT, THEIR PROJECTS ARE JUST SO MUCH LARGER IN SCALE, EVEN IF IT'S TRACKED HOME COMMUNITIES, THERE'S JUST SO MANY OF THEM THAT THE PROFIT MARGIN IS SO MUCH GREATER THAN IT WOULD BE HERE IN NATIONAL CITIES.

SO I THINK IT'S JUST, UM, A MATTER OF, UM, UH, TAKING A MORE NUANCED APPROACH TOWARDS THIS.

I, I AM SUPPORTIVE OF THIS, BUT I DO WANNA DISCUSS THIS AND HOPEFULLY A COMMITTEE IN THE FUTURE AS WELL.

AND REALLY, IF YOU'D LOOK AT THE OUTLIER, WHICH IS LA MESA, UM, THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS AS WELL OF GOING THROUGH THEIR DIFF STUDY AS WELL.

SO I CAN'T TELL YOU TODAY THAT THEY'RE PAYING THAT THE 4,356, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE PAYING RIGHT NOW.

BUT THE STUDY IS STILL YET TO BE DONE, UM, WHICH MAY IMPACT THAT NUMBER AS WELL.

AND THAT'S THE REAL OUTLIER.

BECAUSE WE GOT MORE PEOPLE AND MORE PEOPLE COMING IN.

AND THEY, AND THEY ARE ALSO A LANDLOCKED CITY, RIGHT? YES.

THAT IS BUILT OUT AND SO IS IMPERIAL BEACH.

SO I'M JUST THINKING THROUGH KIND OF WHAT CITIES IN OUR SIMILAR SITUATION HAVE DONE AND ARE DOING, AND I THINK WE ARE KIND OF COMPARABLE TO THEM IN COMPARISON TO THOSE WITH, WITH VERY LARGE PROJECTS THAT CAN MAKE ENDS MEET BETTER.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

IS THIS NOT WHAT, IN SOME, I'M GONNA TAKE IT TO A UTILITIES TYPE OF CONCEPT THAT THEY WOULD REFER TO AS A CAPACITY CHARGE.

THIS IS NOT, THIS IS THE USER FEES THAT YOU HAD PREVIOUSLY THAT YOU VOTED ON.

THIS IS COMPLETELY JUST SEPARATE, I UNDERSTAND, BUT IT'S SIMILAR, BUT IT'S CAPACITY OF SERVICES.

YES, IN SOME DEGREE, YES.

IN OTHER WORDS, IF YOU BUILD MORE UNITS, YOU'RE GOING TO NEED MORE SERVICES FOR THE CITY AS A WHOLE.

SO THE QUESTION IS, DO YOU CHARGE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING IN THAT ARE CAUSING THE INCREASED NEED FOR CAPACITY OR DO YOU PUT A TAX ON EVERYBODY, INCLUDING THE PEOPLE THAT HAD ALREADY PAID IT WHEN THEY WERE IN YEARS BEFORE AND ASKING THEM TO PAY FOR IT AGAIN? UH, SO, YOU KNOW, ONE WAY OR ANOTHER IT'S GOTTA BE PAID FOR, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S IN INCREASED CAPACITY FOR FIRE DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE THERE, UH, POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, WHETHER IT'S LIBRARY SERVICES, PARKS, EVERYONE'S WANTING US TO DO MORE WITH, WITH LESS THERE, UM,

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THE QUESTION IS WHO DO WE CHARGE? DO WE CHARGE EVERYBODY WHO'S ALREADY BEEN PAID? WHO ALREADY PAID FOR IT? AND THAT'S THE IDEA OF A CAPACITY FEE OR DO YOU WANT THAT HAVE IN OR THOSE THAT INCREASE THE CAPACITY? FIFTH FEES CAN ONLY BE TO THE NEW DEVELOPMENT.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

AND SO YOU'RE A HUNDRED PERCENT CORRECT.

WE ALSO WORKED WITH EACH OF YOUR DIRECTORS OF EACH DEPARTMENT TO COME UP WITH WHAT THE NEEDS LIST IS, WHAT THEIR CURRENT INVENTORY IS, SO THAT WE COULD ANALYZE WHAT METHODOLOGY WOULD BE MOST APPROPRIATE.

THAT'S ALL WE HAVE FOR YOU TODAY.

THAT WAS PART OF OUR PUBLIC HEARING AND I DON'T, UH, LET'S SEE.

ON THIS ONE WE DO HAVE, UH, A COUPLE OF SPEAKERS.

WE HAVE, UH, STEPHEN GASPAR BE FOLLOWED BY EDWARD NETTO.

GOOD EVENING, UH, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COUNCIL, UM, STEPHEN GASPAR WITH ER BUILDERS.

UM, WE'VE BEEN VERY ACTIVE IN NATIONAL CITY.

IT'S BEEN A GREAT PLACE TO WORK.

AND SO I WANTED TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT OF OUR PERSPECTIVE AND, UM, HOW WE, UM, YOU KNOW, ARE KINDA SEEING THIS COME THROUGH AND EVALUATE.

SO, UM, I DO WANT TO THANK STAFF, UH, FOR TAKING THE TIME AND FOR YOU CONTINUING THE DISCUSSION SO THAT WE COULD HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE DISCUSSION.

UM, SO THANKS TO STAFF FOR DOING THAT.

UM, I DO APPRECIATE THE, SOME OF THE CERTAINTY BROUGHT INTO THE TIMING OF THE FEES.

SO, UM, AGAIN, THANKS FOR THAT CONSIDERATION.

UM, I DID WANT TO, YOU KNOW, REALLY JUST HIGHLIGHT RECOMMENDING A, A PHASED IN APPROACH.

UM, I THINK THE CONSULTANT BROUGHT UP, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE MONTHS TO THREE YEARS.

I THINK THREE YEARS WOULD BE GREAT, UM, IF, IF POSSIBLE.

THE REASON BEING, UM, YOU KNOW, DECISIONS THAT ARE MADE TODAY WON'T ULTIMATELY BE DELIVERED OR PROJECTS THAT ARE PUT IN PLACE, THEY WON'T ULTIMATELY BE DELIVERED FOR AT LEAST THAT THREE YEAR PERIOD.

SO, UM, AND YOU REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THE, THE MARKET IS ALLOW IT, YOU ALLOW THE MARKET TO ADJUST AND THAT YOU DON'T CREATE THIS SHOCK WHERE, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN YOU INCREASE A FEE, IT'S, IT'S REALLY JUST AFFECTING THE LAND RESIDUAL.

SO AN INCREASE IN FEE HAS TO BE EITHER CAPTURED AN INCREASE IN IN REVENUE OR A DECREASE IN ANOTHER COST.

AND OFTENTIMES, UM, WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT IT BECOMES A DECREASE IN LAND COSTS.

SO LAND ACTUALLY BECOMES LESS VALUABLE IN THE SHORT TERM UNTIL REV REVENUES CAN INCREASE TO OFFSET THAT COST.

AND THIS HAPPENED IN THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO WHEN THEY, THEY DID A LARGE INCREASE TO THEIR, UM, AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN LU FEES.

AND THERE WERE VERY FEW TRADES FOR, YOU KNOW, LAND SALES FOR ABOUT TWO YEARS.

SO I WOULD JUST CAUTION THE CITY AND JUST KIND OF IN CONSIDERING THAT, BECAUSE I THINK YOU CAN GET TO THE FEES THIS, THE FEES AND THE END RESULT, UM, IN A, YOU KNOW, IN A, IN A PERIOD OF TIME, UM, WHILE STILL ALLOWING FOR THE HOUSING THAT'S IN, THAT'S IN PROCESS AND IN THE SHORT TERM TO BE DELIVERED TO CONTINUE TO, TO, TO KIND OF MOVE THROUGH.

UM, I DO WANT TO, YOU KNOW, I, I APPRECIATE THE, THE, THE COMMENTS ABOUT THE SUBCOMMITTEE.

I'D LOVE TO, YOU KNOW, PARTICIPATE IN THAT, SHARE MORE OF OUR PERSPECTIVE.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEES ARE A ONE-TIME FEE AND THOSE GO INTO THE, THE CITY BUDGET OR SPEND ON, ON RESOURCES, BUT INCREASED PROPERTY TAXES AND INCREASED SALES TAX FROM NEW HOUSING IS, IS A MUCH MORE DURABLE, UM, YOU KNOW, REVENUE, REVENUE SOURCE FOR THE CITY.

UH, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, THERE WAS A, WE PURCHASED THREE HOMES THAT WERE, UM, ON 2.4 ACRES.

SO UNDERUTILIZED PROPERTY BUILT 92 UNITS, THE PROPERTY TAX, UH, BILL IN 2021, WE PURCHASED IT WITH $6,900.

UM, IT IS NOW $564,000 A YEAR.

SO IT JUST SHOWS YOU KIND OF THE, THE MAGNITUDE OF, OF, AND I KNOW THE CITY DOESN'T GET ALL OF THAT, SO I WOULD LOVE TO, I'D LOVE TO.

WE ONLY GET THAT MUCH.

YEAH, NO, I'D LOVE TO, YOU KNOW, I'D LOVE TO GET, LIKE, I, I'VE HAD A HARD TIME FINDING THAT DATA, BUT YOU CAN KIND OF BACK IT OUT INTO A PER UNIT AND IT'S, I'D LOVE TO, YOU KNOW, UM, ABOUT 16 TO 18% OF, YEAH.

SO, BUT STILL IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE SAME, UM, PERCENT INCREASE, RIGHT? MM-HMM .

WHEN YOU LOOK AT YOUR TOTAL PROPERTY TAX BASE.

UM, SO I I, THERE'S A LOT TO COVER, UM, IN THIS TOPIC AND I APPRECIATE YOU GIVING ME SOME EXTRA TIME HERE.

UM, SO YEAH, IF THERE'S ANY OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN, IN, YOU KNOW, HOW DISCUSSIONS AROUND HOUSING AND UM, HOW WE CAN WORK TOGETHER ON THAT, I'D LOVE TO BE A PART OF THAT AND APPRECIATE THE TIME.

UM, MY CONCERN IS THIS, IS THAT IF THE HOUSING, THE FEES AREN'T AT THE APPROPRIATE LEVEL, WHO PAYS FOR THAT? CITIZENS PAY FOR IT.

UH, ERTA, I'M, I, SOME INTERESTING PERSPECTIVES ON THIS.

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CITIZENS WHO LIVE THERE TODAY, NOT THE ONES THAT ARE GONNA BE HERE 10 YEARS FROM NOW, 20 YEARS FROM NOW, THE ONES WE'RE HAVING ARE TODAY.

SO I THINK THERE'S A GREATER RISK BASED ON MY LIMITED UNDERSTANDING OF UNDERSTATING THE FEES THAN OVERSTATING THEM TO COVER OUR COST.

AND I DON'T HEAR ANYBODY SAYING, WHAT IS OUR COST? YOU KNOW, AND IT SEEMS LIKE WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ENOUGH DATA TO SELL YOU WHAT THAT IS, WHAT'S GONNA BE OUR PROJECTED, UM, NEEDS.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE REALLY HAVE, THEY SAID THAT THEY GATHERED INFORMATION.

I, I WISH THEY, I HOPE THEY SHARE THAT INFORMATION WITH US.

I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT, WHAT THE PROJECTED NEEDS ARE FOR THE CITY.

SO I THINK THAT THERE'S GREATER RISK BY, UM, UNDER, UNDER STATING OUR FEES, THEN OVERSTATING THEM AND, UM, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S GONNA BE A POLITICAL ISSUE TOO.

UH, THAT'S ALL THE PUBLIC COMMENTS.

WE DO HAVE ONE WRITTEN COMMENT FROM TED GODSHAW ON THIS ONE.

WITH THAT, IF WE COULD HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SO MOVE JUST CHAIR SECOND.

SESSION PLEASE VOTE.

THIS IS TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING MOTION TO APPROVE UNANIMOUSLY.

EXTRA MONEY FOR DEVELOPMENT.

UM, REAL QUICKLY, LEMME JUST SAY THAT NOW THERE'S SOMETHING THAT GETS MISUNDERSTOOD A LOT OF TIMES.

UH, I KNOW A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE WILL PUT OUT STUFF LIKE FOR, UH, LOW INCOME HOUSING AND THEY'LL SAY, THIS IS FOR AFFORDABLE.

AND THEY GO, WELL, THAT'S NOT AFFORDABLE.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S MORE THAN I CAN AFFORD.

BUT REALIZING THE DEVELOPER, EVEN IN THEIR BUILDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, A LOT OF TIMES FOR LIKE AN APARTMENT, IT'LL BE EASILY 400, $450,000 PER APARTMENT IN THIS, THIS MARKET RIGHT NOW.

YEAH, I KNOW IT'S GETTING HIGHER.

I'M JUST TRYING TO BE NICE HERE.

BUT WE'RE BEING, BUT WE'RE AT, BUT THEN THEY'RE RENTING IT ON THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BECAUSE OF GRANTS, BECAUSE OF DIFFERENT TAX CREDITS, EVERYTHING ELSE, THEY'RE RENTING IT AS IF IT ONLY COSTS THEM 300,000.

I'M JUST USE USING SOME NUMBERS.

SO IT IS, BUT SO WHAT THEY DO, BUT THEY HAVE TO CHARGE WHAT IT COSTS THEM.

AND IF THEY COULDN'T GET FINANCING OR ANYTHING ELSE, IF THEY JUST SAID, OKAY, IT'S GONNA COST US 450 OR $500,000 PER APARTMENT UNIT, BUT WE'RE GONNA RENT IT AS IF IT ONLY COSTS US 300, NO ONE WOULD EVER LEND THEM THE MONEY TO BUILD IT IN THE FIRST PLACE, NOTHING WOULD GET BUILT.

AND SO IT'S AFFORDABLE AND A LOT OF TIMES WITHIN THAT LIKE 30 TO 60%, UM, UH, RANGE, UM, AND AS FAR AS AS INCOME LEVEL, AND PEOPLE STILL SAY, BUT THAT'S NOT AFFORDABLE.

BUT YOU CAN'T ASK SOMEONE TO BUILD SOMETHING.

AND EVEN WITH SETASIDE AND, AND SUBSIDIES AND GRANTS CHEAPER THAN IT, WHAT COST THEM TO BUILD IT, 'CAUSE IT NEVER WILL GET BUILT.

SO THE SAME WAY HERE WE ARE, YOU'RE ASKING THE CITY BECAUSE ESPECIALLY IN HOUSING, AND I KNOW THERE'S OTHER THINGS THERE, COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES AND EVERYTHING ELSE LISTED, BUT WE SEEM TO BE CENTERING ON HOUSING.

HOUSING WHAT, WHAT MONEY WE RECEIVE IN PROPERTY TAX DOES NOT PAY FOR THE LEVEL OF SERVICES THAT THE CITY HAS TO PROVIDE.

SO WE ARE, EVERY TIME A HOUSE IS BUILT, EVEN AT MARKET RATE, EVERYTHING ELSE, WE STILL ARE SUBSIDIZING IT WITH SERVICES.

SO ALL THIS IS SAYING IS WE WILL CHARGE WHAT IT COSTS US IN OUR COST FOR THAT HOUSE BEING BUILT AND TO, OTHERWISE, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE ARE SUBSIDIZING EVERY TIME A HOUSE IS BUILT.

UM, AND AS A, YOU KNOW, AS PERSON WAS A CONTRACTOR, EVERYTHING ELSE, I KNOW HOW DIFFICULT IT IS.

I KNOW ALSO THIS FIRST CAME BEFORE US, WHEN WAS THIS FIRST CAME BEFORE US? WAS IT LAST, WAS IT SEPTEMBER? WASN'T IT? SOMETHING LIKE THAT? I BELIEVE IT WAS, I BELIEVE IT WAS SEPTEMBER.

AND WE PUT IT OFF AND SO IT'S ALREADY TO HERE AND THEN THERE'D BE ANOTHER 30 DAYS.

THAT WAS PART OF THE, YOU KNOW, AT THAT TIME WE SAID, WELL, WHY DON'T WE HOLD IT OFF AND DO IT IN GRADUAL, YOU KNOW, NOW AND IN SIX MONTHS, WELL NOW WE ARE BASICALLY AT THE SIX MONTH PERIOD OF, OF, YOU KNOW, UH, DOING IT IN PHASES.

UM, SO IT COMES DOWN TO QUESTION OF DO WE CHARGE EITHER THE DEVELOPMENT WHEN IT'S BUILT OR DO WE CHARGE EVERYBODY WHO ALREADY LIVES HERE? IT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE CHARGED ONE, ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

AND SO IT'S EITHER DONE IN DEVELOPMENT FEES OR IF YOU'RE RUNNING OUT OF SUBSIDY MONEY AND EVERYTHING ELSE, IT'S GONNA COME IN FORM OF HIGHER TAXES FOR EVERYBODY.

UH, THERE'S NOT SOMEWHERE THAT THE THING'S GOTTA SQUEEZE.

NO ONE WANTS TO SEE US PUT EXTRA MONEY, YOU KNOW, UH, CHARGE

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AND, BUT IT'S THE SAME TIME, WE DON'T WANT TO ASK THE DEVELOPER TO SELL SOMETHING CHEAPER THAN WHAT IT COSTS THEM AND THAT THEY CAN GET FINANCED FOR.

SO THROUGH THE CHAIR, IT'S A DIFFICULT, THERE'S NOT AN EASY SOLUTION.

YEAH, YOU CAN GO AHEAD.

OH, THANK YOU.

UM, THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE CHAIR.

UM, 22 YEARS OF NON UPDATE FOR THESE DIFFS ARE REALLY AN OVERSIGHT, UM, FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR THE CITY.

I THINK, UM, THIS IS, WE CAN HAVE PROGRAMS WHEN WE IMPLEMENT THIS, WE CAN HAVE PROGRAMS TO HELP THOSE BUILDERS OR DEVELOPERS MM-HMM .

THAT WE CAN, UM, THAT WE CAN, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN THROUGH, THROUGH, UM, THE HELP OF THE BUILDERS TO, UM, YOU NOT MEAN DURING THAT, DURING HOW CAN WE HELP THEM BUILD, BUT RIGHT NOW WE HAVE TO HELP OUR CITY.

AND THIS IS, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU BUILD A PROPERTY, THERE'S GONNA BE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE AND THEY WILL NEED THE SERVICES THAT WE ARE PROVIDING AND THAT WE NEED TO RECOVER THOSE COSTS.

AND SO I KNOW THAT WE ALWAYS HEAR, OH, HOW ARE YOU COST RECOVERY, COST RECOVERY? WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT.

THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY FOR 22 YEARS, IT, IT MAY BE AN OVERSIGHT.

IT WAS NOT, UH, YOU KNOW, IT WASN'T IMPORTANT BEFORE OR IT'S NOT THAT WE ARE NOT GONNA HELP OUR CITY BUILD.

WE ARE GOING TO, BUT THESE ARE GONNA BE PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE, UH, PROVIDING TO, UM, THOSE DEVELOPERS THAT WILL, UM, THAT WILL BE BUILDING OUR, IN OUR CITY.

SO I AM SUPPORTIVE OF THIS, UM, OF THIS REVISION OR THIS UPDATE.

UM, AND SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD IN, UH, RECOVERING COSTS THAT THE CITY NEED.

UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN VERY, VERY MUCH SO, MR. MAYOR.

SO WITH THAT, IF YOU CAN, OH, SORRY.

THANK YOU, MS. MAYOR.

I, I DO THINK, I HEAR MY COLLEAGUES AND, AND I ACTUALLY AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT IS SAID.

UM, AND DEVELOPMENT IS ALSO A BALANCE.

DIFFICULT, HONEST CONVERSATIONS WITH DEVELOPERS AND, AND I'M A BIG TENANT ADVOCATE AND, AND, AND RENT CONTROL ADVOCATE.

AND, AND I'LL SAY THIS, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF SOME OF YOU KNOW MY KIND OF STORY WHEN IT COMES TO HOUSING, BUT MY PARENTS WERE ABLE TO BECOME HOMEOWNERS BY PURCHASING A HOME IN, UH, THE COACHELLA VALLEY IN A PLACE CALLED MECCA.

ANYBODY HEARD OF MECCA OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE? AND IT WAS A NEW TRACK HOME COMMUNITY, WHICH SOME CRAZY DEVELOPER BUILT, UM, WHERE HOUSES WERE $66,000, AND THAT WAS IN 1995, BRAND NEW HOME.

BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, IT DIDN'T HAVE, IT ACTUALLY DID NOT HAVE AN AC UNIT, WHICH IS CRAZY.

THEY SHOULD HAVE HAD ONE, BUT IT WAS SOLD ON AN AC UNIT.

IT, IT HAD AN AIR COOLER AND, UH, ALL THE DUCTS WERE ALREADY RUN THROUGH.

SO MY PARENTS LATER ON HAD TO ACTUALLY BUY A UNIT.

UM, IT DID NOT HAVE A FINISHED, UM, GARAGE.

UM, SO IT DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF THE TYPICAL AMENDED.

IT WAS A SMALLER LOT, DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF TYPICAL AMENITIES, BUT IT, IT ESSENTIALLY TOOK AN ENTIRE COMMUNITY INTO, UM, UH, AND GAVE US THE ABILITY TO LIVE THE, THE MIDDLE CLASS LIFE, THE AMERICAN DREAM.

AND SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE THINK OF DEVELOPMENT, AND WE'RE DOING SO THINKING OF FUTURE GENERATIONS, NOT JUST NOW, BECAUSE EVEN IN THE VALLEY, UH, WHERE LAND PRICES ARE CHEAPER, A NEW DEVELOPMENT IS NO LONGER POSSIBLE FOR LESS THAN $250,000 PER UNIT.

AND LAND IS CHEAP THERE.

AND SO, AND SO WE MUST ASK WHY.

AND AMONG THAT ANSWER, AND, AND, AND, AND LOOKING INTO THE WHY ARE A BUNCH OF ADDITIONAL FEES, RIGHT? IT'S, IT'S INCLUDING DEVELOPMENT, IMPACT FEES, IT'S INCLUDING HIGHER BUILDING STANDARDS, WHICH IS IMPORTANT.

AND SO ALL THOSE THINGS ARE A BALANCE, RIGHT? WHAT ARE WE WILLING TO PAY FOR HOW MUCH? BECAUSE IF WE ARE SAYING YES, ALL THESE, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO RECOVER FULL COST TO THE CITY.

IF WE'RE OKAY TO PAY THE PRICE FOR $450,000 PER UNIT, THEN WE SHOULD BE OKAY WITH THAT, RIGHT? BUT THIS IS THE KIND OF NATURAL DIRECTION OF ADDITIONAL FEES INTO DEVELOPMENT THAT INEVITABLY WILL HAPPEN.

SO I DO THINK IT IS A VERY DELICATE BALANCE.

UM, I ALSO THINK THAT IN OUR CITY, AND WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS THIS FURTHER, WE HAVE NOT BUILT ENOUGH HOME OWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES.

AND SO WE MUST MAKE SURE THAT WE INCENTIVIZE THAT KIND OF DEVELOPMENT IN ORDER FOR US TO BUILD WEALTH AND PROVIDE, UH, THE AMERICAN DREAM TO OUR NATIONAL CITY FAMILIES AND OUR COMMUNITY, AND WE BUILD MORE OWNERSHIP.

AND IT ISN'T ABOUT, UM, AND I DO, I DO SENSE THIS KIND OF LIKE SENSE OF, UM, UM, KIND OF, UM, COMBATIVENESS AT, AT TIMES WITH SOME FOLKS IN THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AND, HEY, THIS IS COMING FROM ME TOO, RIGHT? I, I OFTENTIMES GET IN VERY

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AND I WILL CONTINUE TO BE, BUT WE MUST HAVE A BALANCED APPROACH.

AND, AND THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY IS A VERY SMALL ONE IN EVERYWHERE IN THE REGION AND IN THE CITY.

AND IN ORDER TO CREATE PROGRAMS TO INCENTIVIZE THE RIGHT KIND OF DEVELOPMENT, WE MUST LISTEN AS MUCH AS WE CAN IN ORDER TO ULTIMATELY GET THE BEST PRODUCT AT THE END OF THE DAY.

UM, ANOTHER PART OF THIS THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER, YOU KNOW, A NEIGHBORING CITY, CHULA VISTA DOES, IS ACTUALLY PUT THE FEES AT THE TAIL END WHEN IT COMES TO, TO, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT, UM, PAYING THEM.

THAT IS IMPORTANT AS WELL TO CONSIDER BECAUSE SOME OF THESE FEES, IF IT'S A LARGER PROJECT, UM, UH, CAN BE IN THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS THAT A DEVELOPER WOULD HAVE TO PAY IN THE FRONT END, WHICH WOULD MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT TO ACTUALLY MOVE FORWARD.

SO, AND THEN ANOTHER THING IS NATIONAL CITY, WE'RE LANDLOCKED AND OUR PROJECTS ARE NOT REGULAR PROJECTS ON COMPLETELY NEW LAND.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO DEAL WITH REDEVELOPMENT, AND THAT MEANS THAT WE HAVE TO TEAR DOWN SOMETHING.

IT MEANS WE HAVE TO REOPEN PIPES.

IT MEANS WE HAVE TO DO SO MANY OTHER THINGS THAT OTHER CITIES DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH.

AND SO, AND SO I VERY MUCH LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING MORE INTO THE DETAILS OF, OF SOME OF THIS, BUT I JUST, UH, HOPE MY COLLEAGUES HERE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE AND REALIZE THE MULTITUDE OF ISSUES WHEN IT COMES TO DEVELOPING IN A COMMUNITY LIKE OURS.

UM, SO ANYWAY, WHICH IS MY 2 CENTS, I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS, BUT I LOOK FORWARD TO A ONGOING CONVERSATION IN THE FUTURE AND HOW WE CAN MAKE THIS BETTER.

AND I ALSO DO BELIEVE IN A FACED IN APPROACH MM-HMM .

UM, AS WELL AS DISCUSSING LATER ON, UH, MOVING THE FEES TOWARD THE, TOWARDS THE END OF THE PROJECT.

AND I, YOU KNOW, I THINK THOSE ARE THINGS THAT CAN BE LOOKED AT, UH, BOTH, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS SOME REALISTIC PHASING AND, UH, AT THE SAME TIME, UH, AND, AND WE'VE DONE SOME PROJECTS HERE IN TOWN WHERE WE'VE MOVED THE FEES TO THE END, NOT ALL OF THE FEES.

AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY, BECAUSE WE GOT A NUMBER OF PROJECTS.

WE GOT ONE RIGHT DOWN HERE ON THE CORNER, THAT'S A BIG VACANT LOT RIGHT NOW THAT WE PUT TONS OF STAFF WORK INTO.

AND GUESS WHAT, IF YOU DON'T, IF THEY DON'T HAVE SOME, SOME SKIN IN THE GAME, IT SITS THERE VACANT ALL THIS TIME 'CAUSE OF WHAT, NO SKIN IN THE GAME AT ALL.

SO I, BUT I THINK WE, YOU KNOW, BUT WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT IS A BALANCE ON THAT SO THAT WE MAKE SURE THE DEVELOPER HAS SKIN IN THE GAME SO THAT WE'RE NOT SPINNING OUR WHEELS UP HERE AND SPINNING A LOT OF STAFF TIME AND SPINNING A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, KEEPING AWAY FROM OTHER THINGS AND THEY NOT COMPLETE THE, NOT GO AHEAD WITH THE PROJECT AND, BUT AT THE SAME TIME ALLOW THEM TO HAVE BETTER OPPORTUNITY FOR FINANCING BY MOVING SOME OF THOSE FEES DOWN TO THE END.

AND SO, YEAH, I THINK THERE'S A BALANCE IN A LOT OF THIS STUFF.

BUT THAT'S, I THINK THOSE ARE ALL GOOD POINTS.

ANYTHING ELSE AT THIS STAGE? UM, IF, IF I MAY AGAIN, YES, PLEASE.

SORRY TO INTERRUPT.

NO, NO PROBLEM.

UM, I JUST WANT TO, UH, POINT, UH, CLARITY FOR WHAT'S BEING PRESENTED HERE TO COUNCIL IS, UM, THE STAFF REPORT, UM, STAFF'S REQUESTING GUIDANCE, UM, WHEN DISCUSSING THE RESOLUTION FOR THE THREE OPTIONS PRESENTED.

SO IT'S ADOPTED 2025 DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEE SCHEDULE AT THE FULL AMOUNT AS DETERMINED BY THE DTA CONSULTANT FOR NEW PROJECTS THAT HAVE PERMIT APPLICATIONS SUBMITTED ON OR AFTER APRIL 20TH, 2026, WHICH WOULD BE THE ADOPTION DATE OR THE TAKE EFFECT DATE IF THIS WERE TO BE ADOPTED TODAY.

UM, SECOND OPTION BEING PHASE IN THE 2025 FEE SCHEDULE OVER A SET PERIOD OF TIME, OR THREE ADOPTED DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEE SCHEDULE AT A REDUCED LEVEL, UM, WHICH WOULD BE ADJUSTED BASED ON THE CCCI.

SO, UM, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT AS WELL AS, UM, THANK YOU FOR THE RECOMMENDED, I GUESS, UH, STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE FOR ASSESSING THESE FEES AS IT CURRENTLY SITS.

WE DO COLLECT THEM JUST PRIOR TO PERMIT ISSUANCE.

UM, SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT, UH, STAFF COULD TAKE A LOOK INTO AS WELL.

UM, WHAT IS ANY PLEASURE OR IDEAS HERE? LET'S SEE.

SO WAS THERE A MOTION ON THE TABLE? NO.

MS. ARMANI MOTION TO ADOPT, UM, RECOMMENDATION NUMBER ONE BY STAFF.

I HAVE A, AND I SO MOVE QUESTION, I'LL SECOND, UH, CLARIFICATION ON THAT MOTION.

DOES THAT INCLUDE THE ABILITY FOR STAFF TO MOVE THE COLLECTION OF THE FEE FROM THE START TO THE END OR TO SOME OTHER TIME? I BELIEVE THE ADOPTION WOULD JUST BE FOR THE FEES THEMSELVES.

SO THEN THE DISCUSSION WOULD BE FOR THE SOP OF WHEN, THEN WE COULD ASSESS THEM OR COLLECT THEM, UM, AT THAT TIME.

IF, IF OPTION ONE IS, IS ADOPTED? CORRECT.

UH, AND THEN THE SENTENCE HERE, SHOULD THE COUNCIL OPT FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN SECTION OR THE OPTION ONE RESOLUTION WILL NEED TO BE REVISED? THAT'S A MOOT POINT

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AND WE ARE GOING THE, THE MOTION IS OPTION ONE.

I'M IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION.

DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING JUST, UH, THAT NO, I APPRECIATE THE DISCUSSION, UH, WITH MY COLLEAGUES AND I AM, UH, YOU KNOW, SUPPORTIVE OF TAKING A LOOK AT, UM, JUST OVERALL STUDIES ON HOME OWNERSHIP, OR MAYBE IT'S EVEN, UM, MICRO UNITS, SO BUILDING, UH, SMALLER UNITS AND MAYBE REDUCING THE FEES THERE.

UM, THERE WAS A LOT OF THOSE THAT, UM, PLACES LIKE DOWNTOWN HAD, AND THAT LED TO KIND OF THE HOMELESS CRISIS WE HAVE NOW.

UM, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO HOME OWNERSHIP, I'M, I'M FINDING ONE OF THE BIGGEST, UH, BARRIERS TO THAT ISN'T AT A LOCAL LEVEL.

IT'S AT THE STATEWIDE LEVEL, AND IT'S OUR INSURANCE POLICIES.

IT'S THE, UH, CONSTRUCTION DEFECT INSURANCE, WHICH ADDS TONS OF COST TO THAT.

AND IF WE, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE ADDRESSED AT A STATEWIDE LEVEL, BUT THAT WE DO AS A CITY HAVE SOME KIND OF SAY IN OUR, UH, UH, LOBBYING AND ADVOCACY.

SO THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO TAKE A LOOK AT.

BUT NO, I, I, UM, JUST WANNA MOVE THIS FORWARD.

UM, I THINK, UH, THAT OUR, I APPRECIATE OUR STAFF AND THE CONSULTANT TEAM THAT'S, UH, BEEN REALLY DILIGENT AND WORKED REALLY HARD AND REALLY PATIENT ON THIS AND TAKING THE FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY, UM, BIA AND SOME OF OUR LOCAL DEVELOPERS.

SO, AND I THINK, UH, LATER ON WE CAN TAKE A LOOK, LET'S APPROVE THIS NOW, AND THEN LATER ON WE CAN LOOK AT HOW WE CAN MAKE ADJUSTMENTS AND REFINEMENTS, UM, REALLY OPEN TO, UH, COLLECTING THOSE FEES LATER ON.

AND JUST SOME OTHER CREATIVE IDEAS.

SO I, I, UH, SUPPORT THIS.

UM, ONE THING WE SHOULD SAY IS THAT THIS DOES NOT AFFECT ANYTHING THAT'S IN THE HOPPER NOW.

AND AS A MATTER OF FACT, IT CAN STILL BE, YOU CAN STILL SUBMIT PLANS UP THROUGH APRIL THE 20TH, AND IT WOULD STILL BE UNDER THE OLD, THE OLD NUMBERS GRANDFATHER.

SO THAT'S GRANDFATHERED.

SO THAT'S JUST, THAT'S NOT SAYING YOU'RE, EVERYTHING'S DONE IN YOUR WORK.

THAT'S JUST SAYING YOU'RE JUST SUBMITTING AN APPLICATION AT THAT POINT.

SO THAT COULD BE DONE BETWEEN NOW, UH, ANYTHING THAT'S IN THE HOPPER NOW AND ANYTHING THAT IS SUBMITTED BETWEEN NOW AND 20 ACCORDING TO, UH, UH, NUMBER ONE THERE.

UM, SO THAT'S ONE THING.

AND THEN OF COURSE, STAFF CAN COME BACK WITH INFORMATION ON HOW WE GO AHEAD AND COLLECT THOSE FEES, UM, AND SEE IF WE CAN'T COME UP.

I THINK, I THINK THAT'S AN EXCELLENT IDEA.

UH, YOU KNOW, TO COME UP WITH SOME KIND OF A SYSTEM THAT WOULD HELP THE, UH, THE DEVELOPERS, YOU HELP 'EM WITH THEIR FINANCING AND EVERYTHING ELSE TO GET THESE PROJECTS MOVING FORWARD.

WE KNOW HOW ROUGH FINANCING IS RIGHT NOW.

SO WITH THAT, UM, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY MORE DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, PLEASE VOTE.

NOW WE GO APPOINTMENT, UH, TO THE REGIONAL BOARD.

SO NEXT WE GO TO, OKAY, THAT IS THE LAST OF OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS.

I'M SORRY, WHAT? ? YEAH.

UH, SO

[11.1 Appointment of City Councilmember to Regional Board for San Diego County Water Authority]

THIS IS FOR THE, UH, UH, COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY.

AND, UH, UH, SO THAT'S MERRILL APPOINTMENT.

AND I'D BE APPOINTING MYSELF TO GO BACK ON THERE.

I KNOW I'VE BEEN OFF THERE FOR A FEW YEARS, BUT TO GO BACK ON THERE, UH, UH, DURING THIS, DURING THIS TIME TO, UH, MAKE UP THE TIME, I KNOW THAT MEMBER YAMANI HAS GOT SOME, DOING SOME EDUCATION STUFF FOR HER, UH, HER, UH, REAL EMPLOYMENT AND, UH, THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN CARE OF, WHICH IS TAKING HER TIME AWAY FROM THERE.

SO THAT IS, UH, MY THANK YOU MAYOR FOR THAT'S THE MOTION.

THANK YOU, MAYOR, FOR, UM, I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION, MR. MAYOR.

AND THANK YOU FOR, UM, ACCEPTING THIS.

THIS IS, UH, IT WAS, UH, YOU NOMIN AS I HAD SPOKEN TO THE MAYOR, IT WAS DIFFICULT TO LEAVE AN AGENCY THAT YOU HAVE LEARNED SO MUCH ABOUT THAT IMPACTS THE, THE RATE PAYERS, UM, THE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

HOWEVER, UM, THERE IS A CONTINUING EDUCATION EVERY FOUR YEARS THAT I HAVE TO DO TO, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, NOT TO LOSE MY LICENSES, UM, WITH THE STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

SO, UM, I'M OH, BUT, BUT, BUT COME ON, COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY, THOSE MEETINGS PAY UP FOR A WHOLE LOT MORE.

IT'S, BUT YOU CAN MAKE IN REAL BUSINESS IT'S EVERY THURSDAY, UH, THE LAST THURSDAY OF THE MONTH, WHICH IS THE MEETING OF THE CWA MAYOR.

AND SO, YEAH.

UM, IT JUST REALLY CONFLICT.

I TRIED, I TRIED VERY MUCH SO, AND THEY'RE ALL DAY MEETINGS.

I TOLD YOU, I TOLD YOU HOW I WAS, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, TRYING TO, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, UH, DO MY SCHEDULE, BUT AT THE END THERE, I HAD TO COME TO YOU THREE TIMES, I BELIEVE.

YOU KNOW, I MEAN TO SAY, MAYOR, I REALLY CANNOT MAKE IT ANYMORE.

SO THANK YOU MAYOR FOR, UM, FOR BEING GRACIOUS IN MAKING SURE THAT YOU REPRESENT OUR CITY, UM, AT THE, AT THE CWA LEVEL.

AT AT NINE OR IF THEY'VE GOT A LOT OF BUSINESS, THEY START AT EIGHT AND THEY NORMALLY GO AT ABOUT FIVE O'CLOCK.

THOSE ARE NOT SHORT MEETINGS.

THEY NORMALLY START

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AND I USED, THERE WAS SOME OF 'EM THAT WENT WAY BEYOND THAT, SO, AND IT IS EXCITING DIALOGUE, .

IT IS SOME REALLY EXCITING STUFF.

UH, ANYWAY, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? YOUR BUTTON? MAYBE MAY, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE, OH, WAIT A MINUTE.

I GOTTA MAKE YOU HAVE A SPEAKER FOR THIS ITEM.

SINCE I'VE MADE THE MOTION THERE.

CAN WE GET THAT? YOU HAVE SPEAKER, HUH? I BELIEVE YOU HAVE A SPEAKER SLIP FOR THIS ITEM.

OH, WE DO, DON'T WE? UM, DOYLE MORRISON 11 ONE.

HELLO THEN EVERYBODY.

THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO, TO SPEAK ON THIS.

UM, I'M SEEING THAT IT WAS, IT'S ENDING ON THE 26TH BECAUSE OF THE RESIGNATION.

AND, UM, THIS IS FOR THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY.

I WAS JUST TALKING WITH ED NETO WHEN I WAS DISTRACTED.

SORRY, .

NO PROBLEM.

AND, AND, UM, I'VE NOTICED THAT THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO HAS DEPLETED RESERVOIRS AND, AND LAKES TO A POINT THAT'S PROBABLY CAUSING ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES, UH, WILDLIFE AND, AND ALL THAT BE BEYOND THAT.

UM, I WAS THINKING THAT, THAT WE HAVE A MAYORAL ELECTION COMING UP THIS YEAR, AND THAT INSTEAD OF ADDING THAT PERSON FOR SIX YEARS, WE SHOULD MAYBE GO JUST FOR A YEAR THAT WAY AFTER THE ELECTION, THE NEWLY ELECTED MAYOR WOULD BE ABLE TO APPOINT THAT POSITION.

IN MORE IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE STAFF.

LET ME, UH, MR. MAYOR, HUH? OKAY, GO AHEAD.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

UM, THERE IS A, UH, THERE IS A, AN AN ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE THERE THAT SAYS UNTIL THE END OF THE COUNCIL MEMBER'S TERM OR THE MAYOR'S TERM YEAH.

IF THE COUNCIL MEMBER OR THE CO MEMBER OF COUNCIL IS NOT RE REELECTED.

SO THIS IS BASICALLY JUST YOU, I MEAN, FOR THE MARCH, 2026.

AND THEN, UM, USUALLY THE MAYOR WILL MAKE THOSE NOMINATIONS AGAIN MM-HMM .

AT THE BEGINNING OF THE, OF THE, OF THE TERM.

SO, YEAH.

THE ONLY THING I'LL, I'LL SAY ON THIS, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A, AND I, I DID TALK WITH THE CITY CLERK.

THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A MISCONCEPTION HERE, WAS THAT IT HAD TO BE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL THAT WAS ON THE BOARD THAT WAS CHANGED.

UH, I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER WHAT YEAR IT WAS, BUT IT WAS, UH, WHEN, UH, NICK AND ZOOA WAS MAYOR, THEY CHANGED THE LEGISLATION.

'CAUSE BEFORE THAT POINT, YOU COULD NOT HAVE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL ON THERE.

AND THAT ALLOWED AN ELECT.

IT DID NOT HAVE TO BE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL.

IN FACT, BEFORE THAT POINT, BEFORE HE WENT ON THERE FOR A 12 MONTH PERIOD, IT HAD NEVER BEEN AN ELECTED OFFICIAL.

AND SO IT CAN BE EITHER AN ELECTED OFFICIAL OR A NON-ELECTED OFFICIAL.

SO, UM, BUT ANYWAY, SO, UH, BUT I, I, LET ME SAY SOMETHING ELSE THERE, THERE WAS A LARGE ARTICLE IN THE DAY'S PAPER ABOUT THE COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY.

A LOT OF PROBLEMS. THEY HAVE OVERDONE A LOT OF THINGS.

I WAS ON COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY FOR, I THINK IT WAS 14 YEARS.

UM, I VOTED AGAINST A LOT OF TIMES I WAS THE ONLY MEMBER OF THAT 26 MEMBER BOARD THAT VOTED AGAINST A NUMBER OF PROJECTS THAT HAVE NOW COME BACK TO HAUNT THEM.

'CAUSE IT JUST DIDN'T MAKE GOOD FINANCIAL SENSE AND LONG RANGE SENSE.

BUT, AND SO I CONTINUE TO BE A, I'LL CONTINUE TO BE A LONE WOLF ON THERE IF I HAVE TO ON SOME OF THESE THINGS.

BUT, AND LET ME SAY ALSO, THE ONE WHO'S COMPLAINING THE MOST RIGHT NOW IS THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO.

AND THESE WERE ALL PROJECTS THAT THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO PUSHED TO GET THROUGH WITH THAT.

I KNOW.

THE, THE, THE, THE SAN DIEGO 10.

YES, I KNOW.

AND SO THEY, THEY THREATENED, UH, OH, UH, OH FOR, UH, UM, TO USE A WEIGHTED VOTE MANY TIMES AND, UH, TO GET SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS THROUGH.

AND THEY WERE NOT NECESSARILY GOOD PROJECTS.

MOTION PROVE UNANIMOUSLY.

UM, WITH THAT, WE HAVE A MOTION A SECOND.

UH, PLEASE VOTE.

ALRIGHT, NEXT WE GET ON TO, AND WE HAVE DISMISSED THE, UH, THE SPANISH INTERPRETER AS WE HAVE, UH, NO MORE REQUEST TO USE IT.

UM,

[11.2 Updating City Council Policies]

THE, UH, NEXT WE GO ON TO, UH, UPDATING CITY COUNCIL POLICIES.

AND WHO IS TAKING THIS ONE? I THINK IT'S THE LADY ON THE SCREEN.

WAIT.

YOU, YOU'RE, I'M SORRY.

I, UH, GOOD MORNING OR GOOD MORNING MEAN MAYOR VICE.

WELL, IT'S FOR YOU.

VICE MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER OF CITY STAFF AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.

UH, ITEM 11.2 IS PRESENTED THIS EVENING AS A CONTINUED ITEM FROM THE NOVEMBER 18TH, 2025 CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

AT THAT MEETING, UH, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS REQUESTED ADDITIONAL

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TIME TO PROVIDE THE CITY CLERK WITH FEEDBACK ON REDLINED POLICIES THAT WERE PRESENTED AT THAT TIME.

AND, UM, THE POLICIES THEMSELVES.

SO TO DATE, ONLY COUNCIL MEMBER RODRIGUEZ HAS SUBMITTED SUGGESTED CHANGES TO MYSELF.

UH, THEY ARE, I, I'M HAPPY TO PROVIDE THEM TO YOU, BUT WE DID NOT INCLUDE THEM AS A STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

UH, THOSE CAN BE DISCUSSED AT THE DIOCESE.

THE, UH, THE COMMENTS, UM, PERTAIN TO COUNCIL POLICY NUMBER 1 0 7, WHICH IS THE BOARD'S, COMMISSIONS, AND COMMITTEE APPOINTMENTS.

AND THEN ALSO COUNCIL POLICY 1 21 CONCERNING THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBER OFFICE BUDGETS.

SO, THIS CONCLUDES MY REPORT.

I AM AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.

I ASSUME YOU'LL PROBABLY WANNA HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS.

SO AT THIS POINT, TAKE A LOOK.

WE DO HAVE, DO HAVE ONE SPEAKER ON THAT DOYLE MORRISON.

I WOULD JUST REQUEST THAT IF, UM, UH, HOPEFULLY, UM, IF THE CITY CLERK, UH, WHEN WE GET READY FOR THE DISCUSSION, UH, CAN PROVIDE THOSE RED LINED, UH, EDITS THE COUNCIL MEMBER RODRIGUEZ PROVIDED, JUST SO WE CAN VISUALLY SEE IT WHEN WE'RE READY FOR THE DISCUSSION.

HELLO AGAIN, EVERYBODY.

UM, AS, UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, 11.2, UH, MY CONCERNS ON POLICY, UH, 7 0 7 FOR THE ALCOHOL HALL CONDITIONAL USE, UH, PERMIT STANDARDS, AND I SEE ON, I SEE ON THOSE STANDARDS, IT SAYS THE CITY MUNICIPAL CODE REQUIRES CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS FOR THE SALE OF ALCOHOL.

SUCH LAND USE REGULATIONS IS DESIGNED TO ENSURE THAT HEALTH, SAFETY, AND WELFARE OF THE COMMUNITY DOES NOT BECOME NEGATIVELY IMPACTED IN ORDER TO MINIMIZE ANY POTENTIAL ADVERSE EFFECTS OF ALCOHOL SALES FOR BOTH ON AND OFF CELL CONSUMPTION, INCLUDING PUBLIC DRUNKENNESS, DISORDERLY CONDUCT, THE ILLEGAL SALES OF DOMESTIC OR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

THE CITY ADOPTS CONDITIONS, CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, AND ENACT POLICIES DESIGNED TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC FROM SUCH EFFECTS.

AND, UM, THE NATIONAL CITY SPORTS LOUNGE VIOLATES MANY OF THESE STANDARDS.

UM, THE ONSITE CELLS ARE TAKEN OFFSITE.

UH, THE RED DRINKING CUPS ARE LITTERED ON 32ND STREET NOR STREET WHERE I LIVE.

I CLEAN UP MY NEIGHBORHOOD DAILY AND SEE URINATION, DEFECATION, AND FORNICATION ON OUR STREETS, ALWAYS AFTER A DISRUPTIVE, NOISY, RUDE DUI EVENING AND EARLY MORNING, UH, DURING THE BAR EVENTS.

AND THIS CUP THAT THEY HAVE HAS NOT COVERED, UM, ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WAS DESIGNED TO PROTECT THE RESIDENTS FROM.

AND I THINK THAT WE SHOULD INCLUDE IN THIS POLICY 7 0 7 SOME FORM OF ENFORCEMENT ON A REGULAR BASIS BECAUSE THEY VIOLATED ALL THE TIME.

UM, MR. ETO, UH, NEXT QUESTION.

I DON'T KNOW IF STAFF CAN EVEN ANSWER THIS AT THIS POINT, BUT THE LOCATION THAT MR. MORRISON BROUGHT UP IS, IS THAT UNDER A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT OR WAS THAT UNDER THE OLD A BC PERMITS? THAT'S SOMETHING WE MIGHT, THEY MAY NOT EVEN BE UNDER A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

THAT'S THE PROBLEM, IS THAT UP UNTIL A CERTAIN POINT, EVERYTHING WAS DONE BY THE A BC BOARD.

AND THEN THEY FINALLY GAVE PERMISSION FOR THE CITIES TO DO A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

SO WE HAVE A LOT OF BUSINESSES IN TOWN THAT HAVE ALCOHOL PERMITS THAT ARE GRANDFATHERED UNDER THEIR OLD, THEY'RE NOT EVEN UNDER A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

SO WE'LL HAVE TO FIND OUT ABOUT THAT ONE ON THAT LOCATION.

HUH? I CAN, I CAN HAVE A PLANNING STAFF YEAH.

REACH, REACH OUT.

THEY, THEY'LL GET, THEY'LL LET YOU, YOU KNOW, TO CONFIRM WHETHER IT WAS UNDER, WE'LL FIND OUT ON THAT ABC OR UNDER A CUP.

IN THE FEDERAL GUIDELINES, IT HAS TO BE, UM, UH, WAS IT VERIFIABLE AND, UM, NECESSARY.

THANK YOU MR. NETTO.

UH, WITH REGARDS TO, I THINK THE, UM, POLICY NUMBER 1 21, UH, THE BUDGET AND, UH, THE COUNCIL'S POLICY.

UM, WHAT I WANT TO ASK, I THINK I BROUGHT THIS UP SEVERAL TIMES AS I SEE THE, WHEN THE FIRST, WHEN THE FIRST POLICY CAME OUT, OR, UH, CITY MANAGER'S GUIDELINES, IT WAS VERY WEAK AND YOU CAME UP WITH A POLICY AND I THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT IMPROVEMENT, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S, IT'S THERE YET.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS I KEEP BUMPING UP TO, AND I KEEP MENTIONING THIS, IS THAT THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES AND FEDERAL FUND EXPENDITURES.

AND ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS IS THAT THE COST HAVE TO BE, UH,

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AND I DON'T THINK IN ANY OF THESE POLICIES, YOU REALLY SAY THAT WHETHER THE COST HAS TO BE, UH, RELY, UM, UH, NECESSARY AND, UH, VERIFIABLE.

AND I SEE A LOT OF WEAKNESSES IN DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'VE HAD BEFORE WITH, YOU KNOW, FAMOUS TURKEY GIVEAWAY.

EVEN THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE BAN, THE BANNING, UH, THE CITY BANNERS WHERE THEY WAS EARTH WERE THOSE COSTS, UH, NECESSARY.

AND I, I, FROM THE CITIZEN'S STANDPOINT, FROM THE GENERAL FUND STANDPOINT, I KNOW THERE'S LESS RULES TO GOVERN THAT, BUT FROM THE CITIZEN'S PERSPECTIVE, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S PRETTY WEAK, THE EXPENDITURES THAT WE'VE HAD.

I WOULD HOPE YOU STRENGTHEN THAT PART OF THE LANGUAGE.

UH, THAT'S, I BELIEVE, IS THAT IS ALL THAT WE HAVE ON 11 TWO.

SO WITH THAT WE OPEN INTO DISCUSSION.

I KNOW YOU WERE WANTING, UH, DISCUSSION ON THE RED LINING.

WELL, I ALREADY SAID THAT, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY.

BUT IF I COULD, WHEN WE DO DISCUSS RED LINING, THERE'S SOME AREAS ON SOME OF THESE DEALS THAT'S PURELY PERFUNCTIONARY.

IT'S LIKE WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT THE ELECTED OFFICIALS AND TAKES OUT CITY TREASURER AND, AND CITY CLERK 'CAUSE THEY'RE NO LONGER ELECTED OFFICIALS, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO GO THROUGH THAT.

BUT ANY SUBSTANTIVE RED LINING, I THINK IS WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OTHER THAN JUST YEAH.

OR REALLY ANYTHING THAT, UM, THAT ANY OF US, UH, PROPOSE OH, YEAH.

THAT HAVE, UH, READY.

UM, BUT I WAS JUST GONNA START BY SUGGESTION, KIND OF SIMILAR TO I THINK WHERE YOU WERE GOING WITH THIS MAYOR, WAS THAT A MAYBE, UH, WE COULD KIND OF, UH, APPROVE OR GO OVER FIRST THE POLICIES THAT ARE NON-CONTROVERSIAL OR THAT WE KIND OF HAVE, UM, IN A, AN AGREEMENT TO.

AND I CAN LIKE, GO BACK AND KIND OF MAKE A MOTION AND LIST SOME OF THOSE.

I, I JUST NEED TO NEED A FEW MINUTES TO KIND OF GO OVER IT REAL QUICK.

BUT MAYBE WE CAN GO BY THAT BECAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S SOME OF THESE, LIKE YOU SAID, THAT ARE, UH, JUST UPDATE, JUST CHANGING, YOU KNOW, STRIKING OUT CITY TREASURER AND, UH, UH, CITY CLERK AS THOSE WERE ELECTED OFFICE AND JUST, JUST SOME OF THOSE UPDATES.

SO, BUT I, UH, WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND, AND LOOK AT WHAT EXACTLY THOSE WERE, UH, TO, SO I COULD SUMMARIZE IT FOR A MOTION.

BUT FOR EXAMPLE, SO I, I THINK THE, THE, THE FOCUS OF A LOT OF OUR CONVERSATION IS GONNA BE 1 21, THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL, UH, BUDGET.

BUT THERE MIGHT BE SOME OTHER, LIKE 1 0 9, THERE MIGHT BE SOME I HEARD 1 0 7 BROUGHT UP, OR 1 0 7.

SO MAYBE WE CAN, OKAY.

MAYBE WE CAN, UH, GO THROUGH KIND OF WHAT, UH, THE, THE FIRST, FIRST ROUND GO THROUGH SOME OF THE, THE EASY ONES.

UM, AND THEN I JUST FOR THE RECORD, AND I TALKED TO THE, UH, UH, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE ABOUT THIS, THAT, UM, I, I ALSO, I HOPE THAT WE, UH, BRING BACK, UM, SHELLY SOME OF THE, UH, SECTIONS LIKE, UH, SECTION 600.

THERE WAS SOME OF THE SECTIONS ON OUR POLICIES SINCE WE'RE UPDATING ALL OF OUR, UH, POLICIES MM-HMM .

AND I KNOW YOU DID REQUEST SOME, SOME CHANGES, SO I JUST WASN'T PREPARED TO, UH, MAKE THEM.

SO MAYBE WE CAN BRING THOSE BACK AT A SUBSEQUENT MEETING.

SURE, THAT'S FINE.

AND I PLAN TO, UM, REALLY JUST GET YOUR FEEDBACK THIS EVENING ON THE POLICIES AND, UM, WE CAN BRING IT BACK TO A FUTURE MEETING AND, UH, ADOPT A RESOLUTION AT THAT TIME.

SOUNDS GOOD.

AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON THE CITY CLERK AND YOUR OFFICE.

SO THIS IS, THIS IS GREAT UPDATE.

SO THANK YOU.

LET SURE, NO PROBLEM.

LET ME, UH, LET ME DO THIS AND SEE IF THIS WILL WORK.

LET ME GO POLICY BY POLICY AND FIRST JUST BRING UP IF ANYONE'S GOT ANY CONCERNS OR ANYTHING THEY WANNA DISCUSS ON IT.

AND IF THERE'S NOT, THEN WE CAN KIND OF SET THEM ASIDE FOR THE MOMENT.

SO IT GETS A LITTLE LESS CLUTTERED.

IS THAT OKAY, MR. MAY? YES.

JUST POINT OF CLARIFICATION.

OUR CITY CLERK SAYS WE, SHE'S GET, SHE'S TRYING TO GET OUR FEEDBACK, BUT IN THE PAPERWORK IT SAYS ADOPT A RESOLUTION.

SO WE COULD YES.

I, BUT I THINK SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT IF WE'RE GOING BEYOND WHAT WAS ALREADY LISTED.

OH, THAT, THAT'S WHAT I MEANT.

IF WE'RE MAKING SUBSTANTIVE THINGS THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA, THEN, BUT WE, BUT WE COULD TAKE CARE OF SOME OTHER THINGS AND THEN BRING THOSE OTHER ONES BACK.

IF THAT'S, IF, IF WE DO WANT TO GO WITH SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES, UM, IS THAT, AM I SAYING THAT RIGHT MR. ATTORNEY? YEAH, I THINK SO.

I THINK THE, THE INTENT IS THAT IF THERE'S ANY WE CAN ADOPT NOW.

WE CAN, IF THERE'S ANY THAT REQUIRE FURTHER WORK, WE'LL BRING THOSE BACK.

IS THAT RIGHT, SHELLY? YES.

AND TO BE SHARED FAIR TO SHELLY, SHE WAS VERY PROACTIVE.

I THINK BEFORE LAST YEAR YOU SENT ALL THESE OUT.

SO APPRECIATE COUNCIL MEMBER RODRIGUEZ FOR BEING THE ONLY ONE THAT SAID THIS.

SITU EDITS.

UH, SHELLY, YOU KNOW, I WAS WORKING ON ALL THOSE PR SO I WAS NOT CALLING ANYONE OUT.

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NO.

BUT THANK NO, BUT THANK YOU.

SO I THINK THIS IS A GOOD FIRST, FIRST STEP.

IT WAS A GROUP, IT WAS A GROUP EFFORT.

I WANNA THANK THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS AS WELL FOR THEIR INPUT.

'CAUSE THAT WAS NOT DONE JUST BY MYSELF.

SO, OKAY.

SO I'M GONNA GO DOWN THROUGH 'EM BY NUMBER AND TITLE AND IF ANYONE'S GOT ANYTHING ABOUT THAT SECTION, NO, JUST LET US KNOW.

AND THEN WE'LL PUT THAT OFF THE TABLE FOR THE MOMENT AND THEN WE CAN GO ON TO THINGS AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK ON THE ONES WE HAVE ANY ISSUE.

SO, FIRST ONE IS POLICY 1 0 1, WHICH IS THE CITY COUNCIL POLICY MANUAL.

ANY PROBLEMS, ANY ISSUES THERE? NOPE.

NEXT ONE IS POLICY 1 0 7, WHICH IS APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS, COMMISSIONS, AND COMMITTEES.

I'D LIKE SOME DISCUSSION ON THAT.

SO I'M WRITING THEM DOWN.

HUH? I'M WRITING THEM DOWN.

OH, THANK YOU.

UM, NEXT ONE IS 1 0 9, WHICH IS REIMBURSEMENT OF EXPENSES INCURRED IN THE PERFORMANCE OF OFFICIAL DUTIES.

EVERYONE GOOD WITH STUFF? HUH? I'M SORRY, MAYOR SENIOR.

I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH 1 0 7.

NO, HE SAID HE WOULD LIKE, DISCUSS, DISCUSS.

HE WOULDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH DISCUSSING THAT.

ANY DISCUSSION ON ANYONE WITH 1 0 9? OKAY.

SO THEN NEXT WE GO TO, UM, PAUL, POLICY 1 21, WHICH IS THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL'S OFFICE BUDGETS DISCUSS.

YOU SAY DISCUSS.

1 21.

NEXT WE GO TO 2 0 3, WHICH IS ON INVESTMENTS.

WE WILL GO ON.

COUNCIL MEMBER YAMANI, DID YOU HAVE YEAH, I, I WOULD LIKE TO PULL THIS AND DISCUSS.

2 0 3.

I REMEMBER YOU SAYING THAT.

A PREVIOUS MEETING.

NO ONE NEEDS TO BE SHY.

UM, NOT SHY AT ALL.

NO PROBLEM.

, I KNOW YOU'RE NOT SHY.

BELIEVE ME.

UM, POLICY 2 0 4, WHICH IS A DONATION ACCEPTANCE POLICY.

ANYTHING.

UM, THEN NEXT ONE IS POLICY 2 0 6, DEBT MANAGEMENT.

NOT SEEING ANYTHING ON THAT ONE.

ON 2 0 6.

NEXT THING WE GO DOWN TO, GOT A BUNCH ON 2 0 6.

UM, OUR NEXT ONE IS 4 0 2, WHICH IS PROCEDURES AND REQUIREMENTS FOR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS.

WE GOOD? OKAY.

THAT'S 4 0 2.

NEXT WE GO TO 5 0 2, WHICH IS PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS OR PROFESSIONAL SERVICE CONTRACT CHANGE ORDERS, NOT SEEING ANYTHING THERE.

UH, NEXT WE GO TO 7 0 3, WHICH IS PURCHASE OF PRODUCTS CONTAINING FULLY HALOGENATED, CHLORO.

CHLOR CHLORO.

CARBONS GONNA, CPS GONNA, AND THE WHOLE THING IS BEING STRICKEN.

BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S BEEN ELIMINATED.

BY STATE.

UM, SO THEN, UH, NEXT IS 7 0 7 ALCOHOL BEVERAGE LICENSE APPLICATION REVIEW PROCESS AND ALCOHOL CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT STANDARDS 7 0 7.

ANYTHING THERE WITH THAT ONE? ANYTHING? NO, BUT JUST, JUST TO IT.

OH, WELL, MR. MORRISON'S GONE, BUT, UH, SO IT'S, UH, BUT YEAH, WE'RE WORKING.

I ACTUALLY, UM, THE CITY MANAGER'S ALREADY ON IT, SO I JUST SAW HIS EMAIL, BUT I DON'T, I DON'T SEE A NEED TO, THAT'S NOT A POLICY ISSUE.

THAT WAS, THAT'S A ENFORCEMENT ISSUE.

UM, NEXT IS, UH, 9 0 4 HOUSING LOAN SUBORDINATION POLICY.

AND THIS IS DEALING WITH HOME BUYER AND SINGLE FAMILY REHABILITATION ASSISTANCE LOANS.

NONE THERE, MA'AM.

YOU GOOD THERE? THERE'S NONE THERE, MA'AM.

ALRIGHT, THAT'S ALL OF THEM.

SO WE'LL GO BACK TO 1 0 7.

CAN WE MAKE A MOTION FOR THE OTHER ONE? IF YOU WANT TO? UNLESS ANYONE MIGHT BE CONNECTED WITH THE ONES THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO THANK YOU.

I SECOND AND THE SECOND HAS TO READ THOSE.

NO, I'M JUST KIDDING.

I READ THEM.

YOU WANT ME TO READ THEM? ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND WE CAN GO IN.

UH,

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THANK YOU VICE MAYOR.

I'M, I'M SORRY.

I'LL START IT.

UM, OKAY.

GONNA START IT OVER AGAIN? YEAH.

SO THAT YOU CAN PUT THE SECOND IN.

THIS IS FOR THE REMAINDER WITH THE EXCEPTION OF 1 0 7, 1 21 AND 2 0 3.

WITH THAT SCENE BOARD DISCUSSION, PLEASE VOTE.

ALRIGHT, NOW WE GO TO 1 0 7.

THIS IS APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS, COMMISSIONS, AND COMMITTEES.

AND, UH, I, I HAVE SOME THOUGHTS.

HUH? I, I HAD SOME THOUGHTS.

I DO TOO.

AND THIS IS JUST, UH, AND I , THIS IS JUST LIKE, KIND OF MORE JUST I WANT TO HEAR MY COLLEAGUES THOUGHTS ON THIS.

WE'VE HAD SOME STRUGGLES RECRUITING, UH, FOLKS IN THESE POSITIONS AND COMMITTEES AT TIMES.

AND I WONDER IF WE SHOULD MAYBE EXPAND WHEN I, I THINK A PRIORITY SHOULD DEFINITELY BE TO RESIDENTS, BUT I WONDER IF WE SHOULD OPEN UP TO FOLKS THAT, THAT WORK HERE OR HAVE SOME OTHER TIE TO NATIONAL CITY OR MAYBE PROFESSIONAL EXPERTISE OR A ALLOWING FOLKS WHO LIVE OUTSIDE OF THIS CITY IF WE'RE STRUGGLING TO, TO RECRUIT.

SO THAT WAS JUST KIND OF OPEN, BUT I, I WOULDN'T WANT TO DISPLACE RESIDENTS.

SO IT'S JUST A THOUGHT I HAD.

IF WHAT, UM, BECAUSE THIS LANGUAGE, I, I APPRECIATE THE LANGUAGE.

'CAUSE IT, IT TIGHTENS IT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, JUST RECOGNIZING SOME OF THE RECRUITMENT STRUGGLES WE HAD, I WONDER IF, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE SHOULD, YOU KNOW, UH, LOOSEN SOME OF THAT LANGUAGE UP A BIT OR MAYBE, UH, MAKE SOME, SOME EDITS FOR THE SITUATIONS WHEN WE'RE STRUGGLING TO RECRUIT.

WE GOTTA ALLOW IT TO THE STATE.

'CAUSE SOME OF THEM ARE STATE MANDATE.

AND I THINK THERE ARE ONLY TWO COMMISSIONS THAT, UM, UM, WE ARE ALLOWED TO ACCEPT MEMBERS WHO ARE NOT RESIDENTS.

SO I, I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT.

TO COUNCIL MEMBER.

BUT, UH, WE ARE, UH, WE'RE UNDER THE RESTRICTION OF, UH, SOME OF THE MANDATE MANDATE RULES.

GOT IT.

AND I'M LOOKING AT ITEM, UH, NUMBER SIX.

UH, SO WHAT IS THAT PAGE ON SEVEN? I'M SORRY, WHAT? UH, NUMBER, UH, SO IT'S ON THE POLICY AND C ON RESIDENT REQUIREMENT OR, UH, DD SIX.

THAT'S WHAT JUST THAT WAS I WAS LOOKING AT.

I I DON'T HAVE ON THE EARLY ONE AND OF THE, UH, THE, UH, CI DON'T, I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH THAT.

SO I WOULD JUST COMMENT ON, UM, ON SIX, IT'S, THAT'S NOT ESTABLISHING WHETHER OR NOT RESIDENCY IS REQUIRED.

IT'S JUST SETTING FORTH A PROCEDURE FOR HOW YOU DETERMINE RESIDENCY WHERE IT IS REQUIRED.

GOT IT.

SO IT'S MORE OF A CLEAN UP, JUST A, A PROCEDURAL THING.

I, I HAD ON THAT EXACT SAME DEAL, I HAD A QUESTION BECAUSE IF WE LOOK FARTHER UP THERE ON THE FRONT PAGE, UNDER PURPOSE ON A PORT COMMISSION SAYS, PER THE SAN DIEGO UNIFIED PORT DISTRICT ACT, SECTION 16, THE SEAT MUST BE FILLED BY A NATIONAL CITY RESIDENT.

SAME THING LIKE WE'RE SAYING, BUT THE COMMISSIONER SHALL BE A RESIDENT OF THE CITY AT THE TIME OF THEIR APPOINTMENT.

AND DURING THEIR TENURE OVER HERE FOR OUR CITY APPOINTMENTS, IT'S ONLY WHEN THEY APPLY, NOT WHEN THEY'RE, UH, NOT WHEN WE VOTE ON 'EM OR NOT ANY TIME OF THEIR, THEIR SERVICE.

THEY COULD GO, THEY COULD APPLY TODAY AND SOMEWHERE THAT APPLICATION'S GOOD FOR 12 MONTHS, 11 MONTHS FROM NOW, THEY COULD MOVE.

I THINK I SEE WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THIS BEFORE WE EVEN APPOINT 'EM.

AND THEY WOULD BE OKAY, I THINK I SEE WHERE YOU'RE, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? BUT DID YOU HAVE PROPOSED LANGUAGE CHANGE? HUH? DID, BUT DID YOU HAVE PROPOSED LANGUAGE CHANGE OR, I, I, I THINK, UM, UM, I THINK WHEN YOU SAY AT THE TIME OF SUBMITTING THE APPLICATION AND DURING, DURING THEIR TENURE, JUST LIKE WHAT WE'VE DOING HERE, WHAT THE PORT'S DOING, DOESN'T I SAY THAT BECAUSE YEAH.

THE APPLICATION SAYS SO THOUGH THAT, UM, YOU MUST BE A RESIDENT OF THE CITY, OF NATIONAL CITY AT THAT IN THE APPLICATION.

YOU SEE THAT.

AND THEN FOR SOME COMMISSION THAT YOU ARE ALLOWED, THAT IS, UH, NON-RESIDENTS ALLOWED.

I UNDERSTAND IT'S ALSO STATED THERE.

OH, YOU'RE SAYING, SO THE, YOU'RE PROPOSING TO CHANGE LANGUAGE FROM AT THE TIME OF THE APPOINTMENT TO, AT THE TIME OF THEIR APPLICATION.

WELL, NO, IT, RIGHT NOW IT'S AT THE TIME OF APPLICATION.

THIS WOULD BE TIME OF THEIR APPLICATION AND DURING THEIR TENURE.

IN OTHER WORDS, IF THEY'RE ON THE COMMITTEE, AND THIS IS ONLY FOR ONES THAT ARE FOR RESIDENTS.

I DON'T, I DON'T THINK I UNDERSTAND BECAUSE I, SO RIGHT ON HERE, WHAT THE LANGUAGE SAID IS THE COMMISSIONER SHALL BE A RESIDENT OF THE CITY AT THE TIME OF THEIR APPOINTMENT AND DURING THEIR TENURE, THE APPLICATION AND DURING THEIR TENURE, HE WANTS TO ADD.

AND DURING THEIR TENURE.

I AGREE.

MAY, MAY I POINT OUT, UM, ITEM NUMBER 12 ON THAT IS AN AUTOMATIC VACANCY UPON BECOMING A NON-RESIDENT.

IS GOOD TO DO A REDUNDANCY.

BUT I, I SAY, BUT I THINK THAT'S THE REASON.

IT, IT TALKS ABOUT HERE ABOUT DOING IT A TIME FOR APPLICATION.

SO I THINK IT

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PEOPLE LOOK AT THIS.

AND, UH, YEAH, SO NO, I, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE AS IF YOU'RE SAYING TWO DIFFERENT THINGS HERE.

SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE, WE STAY CONSISTENT WITH THE MESSAGE THAT WE HAVE THERE CONCERNING RESIDENCY.

SO YOU'RE MAYOR, YOU'RE SAYING THAT NUMBER FOUR ALLOWS SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T LIVE IN A NATIONAL CITY TO APPLY.

SO IF THEY'RE APPOINTED THOUGH, THEN THEY NEED TO LIKE, THEN THERE'S LIKE, WELL, NO, NO, THEN THEY CAN MOVE.

NO, THEY COULD APPLY WHILE THEY'RE A, A, A PERSON THAT LIVES IN NATIONAL CITY, AN BUT THEN THEY COULD BE APPOINTED WHEN THEY'RE NOT.

AND THEY COULD BE, YOU KNOW, DURING THEIR, THEIR TIME AND BEING A COMMISSIONER AND THIS, AND SO THIS WOULD JUST SAY THAT DURING THEIR TIME OF BEING COMMISSIONER, THEY HAVE TO CONTINUE TO BE A RESIDENT OF NASHVILLE CITY IF IT'S A RESIDENTIAL APPOINTMENT, AS OPPOSED TO THOSE COUPLE OF NON-RESIDENTIAL APPOINTMENTS.

CITY ATTORNEY.

SO, SORRY, ARE YOU LOOKING, I GUESS WE, WE COULD ADD LANGUAGE, UM, AT THE END OF THAT SENTENCE SAYS, AND MAINTAIN RESIDENCY THROUGHOUT THE TERM OF THE APPOINTMENT.

AND I, AND SINCE THAT'S BASICALLY KIND OF FOLLOWS WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING FARTHER DOWN, I DON'T THINK THAT'S SUBSTANTIVE.

UH, DURING THE TECH, DURING THEIR TENURE AND MAINTAIN RESIDENCY.

DURING THEIR TENURE.

DURING THEIR TENURE, MR. MAYOR.

UH, JUST AS A CLARIFYING QUESTION, UM, AND MAYBE IT IS TO THE CITY CLERK.

UM, HOW DID THESE RECOMMENDATIONS GET ON THE AGENDA? SOME OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS WERE, UM, MADE BY SOME OF YOU IN THE PAST, UM, WHEN WE BROUGHT THEM FOR COUNCIL AND THEN WE DIDN'T BRING THEM BACK.

UM, AND SO THAT'S SOME OF THOSE CHANGES.

AND THEN SOME OF THEM ARE JUST, UM, BEST PRACTICES WITH OTHER CITIES AND, UM, SOME OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WE'VE HAD TO MAKE THINGS A LITTLE MORE STREAMLINED.

SO THEY'RE JUST, THEY'RE, THEY'RE SUGGESTIONS BY STAFF AND STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.

BUT OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE YOUR POLICIES, SO YOU'RE WELCOME TO CHANGE THEM AS YOU WOULD LIKE.

AND THE RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT FOR BOARDS, UM, WHICH ONES DO NOT HAVE A RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT? HMM.

I WOULD HAVE TO PULL THAT UP AND SEE.

I THINK THERE'S ONE OR TWO FROM THE POLICE, FROM THE C-P-R-C-C.

PRC IS ONE OF THEM MOST, AND MOST OF THE, THE BOARDS THAT DON'T HAVE A REQUIREMENT, IT'S MAYBE LIKE ONE OR TWO SEATS.

SO YOU HAVE LIKE TWO SEATS THAT ARE NON-RESIDENT AND THEN THE REST ARE RESIDENT.

YEAH, THE ART COMMITTEE IS ANOTHER ONE.

INDUSTRIAL ARTS SCHOOL AND, AND HOUSING, UM, HOUSING DEVELOPMENT.

THE REDEVELOPMENT FOR HOUSING, THE TWO POSITIONS.

THAT HOUSING ADVISORY FOR MONEY.

HAVE HOUSING ADVISORY.

WHICH WE SHOULD PROBABLY TALK ABOUT AT SOME POINT IN FUTURE.

BUT, SO CPRC, ARTS AND HOUSING.

HOUSING ADVISORY.

HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE, WHICH IS AN EXTENSION OF PLANNING, RIGHT? YES.

ANY OTHERS? CITY CLERK.

SO WE HAVE, LEMME MAKE SURE HERE WE'VE GOT TWO NON-RESIDENTS ON THE CPRC AND PUBLIC ART IS A NON-RESIDENT.

AND THAT'S IT.

OTHER THAN THE ONES YOU'VE ALREADY MENTIONED.

SO, SO IS IS NUMBER SIX I SAID, UH, D SIX, IS IT KIND OF REDUNDANT TO OUR ALREADY EXISTING REQUIREMENTS OR IS IT ADDING AN ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENT THAT THEY MUST BE RESIDENTS? SO IF WE DON'T REQUIRE THEM FOR THOSE THREE COMMITTEES, DOES THIS MEAN THAT THOSE INDIVIDUALS CAN STILL SERVE ON THOSE COMMITTEES OR NO? YEAH.

SO ONTO THIS, YES.

THIS DOESN'T CHANGE THE RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT.

IT JUST ESTABLISHES THE PROCEDURES FOR WHERE A RESIDENT IS REQUIRED.

AND ALLOWS US TO VERIFY THE RESIDENCY.

IF I COULD, BECAUSE IF I COULD JUST READ IT OFF, IF A POSITION ON THE BOARD, COMMISSION OR COMMITTEE IS FOR A RESIDENT, THEN THAT'S WHEN THE CONDITION COMES IN.

RIGHT? SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS MAYBE IT FELT A LITTLE REDUNDANT, BUT IT DID FELT EXCLUSIVE AS THE INDIVIDUAL READS IT.

BUT DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? MM-HMM .

JUST CLARIFY.

SO THERE'D BE WHEN MEETING CONFUSION? YEAH.

UH OH.

OTHER, I JUST NOTICED THIS, UM, WE SHOULD PROBABLY STRIKE OUT THE VETERANS AND MILITARY FAMILIES ADVISORY COMMITTEE, WHICH WAS DISSOLVED, WHAT, FOUR YEARS AGO? MAYBE LONGER.

NUMBER SEVEN? NUMBER SEVEN.

BUT I DON'T SEE IT ON HERE.

THAT WAS OFFICIALLY WHAT? YES, IT WAS DISSOLVED.

YOU'RE CORRECT.

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ON, UM, AT THE VERY, ON THE FIRST PAGE, ON 1 0 7, UH, MAYOR'S APPOINTMENTS, IT'S, UH, ITEM NUMBER SEVEN UNDER PURPOSE.

OH, I SEE.

UH, YEAH, IT'S ON THE, THE COVER PAGE.

FIRST PAGE UNDER PURPOSE NUMBER SEVEN.

SO WE SHOULD PROBABLY STRIKE THAT SINCE IT, WE DISSOLVED THAT YEARS AGO.

YEAH, WE CAN DO THAT.

I JUST CHECKED AND THAT'S THE ONLY REFERENCE TO THAT COMMITTEE ON THAT PAGE.

SO I THINK WE SHOULD BE GOOD JUST FOR THAT.

UM, ANYTHING ELSE ON 1 0 7? WAS THERE A MOTION ON THE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE? I THINK THE CITY ATTORNEY, WHAT DID YOU HAVE THERE THAT YOU CAME UP WITH? A GREAT, GREAT LITTLE QUOTE THERE.

I HAVE IT IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO REPEAT IT.

RICHARD? YES, PLEASE.

? UH, IT'S AND MAINTAIN RESIDENCY DURING THE TERM, UH, I THINK DURING THEIR TENURE TO MATCH THE LANGUAGE.

THAT WAS ABOUT, ABOUT THE PARK COMMISSION.

SO I JUST HAD THAT.

AND THEN DELETION OF ITEM SEVEN FROM THE MAYOR'S APPOINTMENTS UNDER THE PURPOSE SECTION.

ANYTHING ELSE ON 7 0 7 1 0 7? DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THAT THEN WITH THOSE, WITH THOSE CHANGES? MOVE TO APPROVE.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND AND NONE OF THAT WAS SUBSTANTIVE.

UH, WAS IT OKAY.

I WOULD NOT, YEAH, IT'S, IT'S JUST YOUR POLICY SO IT'S NOT SECOND READING, SO, OKAY.

IT'S OKAY TO MAKE A CHANGES HERE.

WAIT.

UM, IT REQUIRE A, YEAH.

UM, ALRIGHT, SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

SEE MY LIGHTS ARE ON.

NEXT WE GO TO 1 21.

LET ME GET OVER THERE.

THIS IS, UH, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL OFFICE BUDGETS.

WHO THE CHAIR? YES.

UM, WE STARTED THIS AS A SUBCOMMITTEE.

WHY WAS THIS NOT, WHY HAVE WE NOT DISCUSSED THIS PRIOR TO IT BEING PUT HERE IN THE POLICY CHANGES? SO I, I REMEMBER ASKING YOU WHEN THIS CAME UP, ASKING IF WE CAN SIT DOWN TO MM-HMM .

UM, GO OVER THIS.

BUT OF COURSE BECAUSE OF THE, UM, HOLIDAYS AND THE MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE HAD, UM, WE WERE NOT ABLE TO MEET WITH REGARDS TO THIS.

SO IS THIS SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE FOR US TO REVIEW, UH, TOGETHER AS A SUB MAYOR AND SO WE CAN GO GIVE BACK.

I MEAN, GET BACK TO, TO THE, TO THE, UM, COUNCIL TO, FOR OUR RECOMMENDATION FOR THE APPROVAL I HAVE, I WOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH US DOING THAT.

UM, I WOULD SAY SO THAT WE CAN HOLD OUR FEET TO THE FIRE.

WE'LL SAY, UH, NOT THE NEXT MEETING, BUT SAY, I WOULD SAY THE SECOND MEETING IN FEBRUARY, WHICH WOULD BE THE 17TH.

AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK BEFORE THAT POINT SO WE CAN MEET WITHIN LIKE THIS NEXT WEEK AND YES, MAYOR.

AND GET RECOMMENDATIONS AND THEN BRING IT BACK FOR DISCUSSION.

WELL I THINK YOU, AND THEN IF THE SUBCOMMITTEE COULD INCLUDE COUNCIL MEMBER RODRIGUEZ'S CHANGES TO SUBMITTED, WE DON'T EVEN YEAH.

WE HAVEN'T SEEN THEM.

LEMME MAKE YEAH, WE WOULD TAKE THOSE.

COUNCIL MEMBER.

I DO BELIEVE THAT CLA CHASM.

I DO THE, THE CLERK HAS 'EM, SO I THINK SHE CAN FORWARD TO THEM, TO YOU AS WELL.

SO IF THE CLERK COULD FORWARD THOSE ONTO THE SUBCOMMITTEE AND THEN WE CAN INCLUDE THAT WITH THE END OF THE DISCUSSION.

SURE.

MAY THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

SO WE WILL HOLD OFF ON 1 21 AND BRING THAT BACK ON THE 17TH.

UM, THEN WE GO TO, COULD WE AT LEAST, BUT CAN WE HAVE SOME LIKE HIGH LEVEL DIS I HAD JUST A FEW THOUGHTS FOR THE SUBCOMMITTEE.

I MEAN, IS THAT, WOULD THAT BE APPROPRIATE NOW? IT'S NOTHING LIKE SUPER.

CAN WE GET THAT? YOU KNOW, I MEAN VIA EMAIL, SO THEN WE CAN YEAH.

IT, IT, IT, IT'D BE GOOD IF LIKE THIS NEXT, WITHIN THE NEXT, SO SAY BY THE FIRST OF NEXT WEEK, IF YOU COULD GET TO US IN, WE'LL, WE'LL JUST, JUST REAL QUICK VERBALLY, 'CAUSE IT'S NOT SUPER FORMAL.

GOOD LANGUAGE THAT THE CITY CLERK WORKED ON LIMITS TO THE JACKET FOUR YEARS COST REIMBURSE.

BUT JUST LIKE, SO KEY LIKE REFRESHMENTS FOR DISTRICT EVENTS, THE MAXIMUM WILL REIMBURSE FOR SINGLE DISTRICT EVENT IS $50.

SO I JUST, UM, LIKE THAT, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S TOO STRICT OR NOT.

THE, UM, I DO AGREE AND LIKE THIS, SOME OF THE BRANDING THAT APPLIES TO LIKE LOGOS AND, UM, BANNERS AND CANOPIES AND, AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO I, I THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS

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LIKE I, I, I SEE THE INTENT.

I DON'T, BUT, UH, YEAH.

SO MAYBE YOU GUYS CAN GO OVER THAT MORE.

UM, AND, UH, YEAH, SO, AND THE REST, I, I ACTUALLY THINK THIS WAS LIKE PRETTY, PRETTY GOOD, BUT MAYBE THERE'S SOME DETAILS LIKE, I'M TRYING TO ALSO BALANCE LIKE HOW MUCH WE WANT TO KIND OF MICROMANAGE IT VERSUS LIKE THE TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY.

SO MAYBE IF, YOU KNOW, THE, UM, UH, YOU GUYS CAN, UH, DISCUSS THAT BECAUSE SOME OF THIS TO ME, LIKE, UM, UH, NOT POINTING FINGERS WHEN BLAME, SO SOME OF THIS TO ME FELT A LITTLE TOO MUCH LIKE, UH, UM, LIKE, LIKE, UH, ADVERTISING SOME OF OUR EXPENDITURES A LITTLE BIT, LIKE ADVERTISING A LITTLE BIT A TOO MUCH LIKE, UM, CAMPAIGNING, IT'S LIKE IT'S GRAY AREA.

SO, SO THAT'S WHERE I THINK THAT THIS LANGUAGE KIND OF, UH, IS DECENT.

IT CLEANS IT UP.

BUT I'M TRYING TO STRIKE THE BALANCE BETWEEN NOT OVER, OVER MICROMANAGING EITHER.

LET, LET ME ASK THIS IS THAT IF ANY OF THOSE THAT ARE NOT ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE, IF YOU HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS, LET'S FORWARD 'EM SO WE DON'T DO A BROWN ACT.

YOU'LL SEND THOSE TRUE TO THE CITY CLERK AND THEN THE CITY CLERK CAN FORWARD THOSE TO THE COMMITTEE.

HOW'S THAT? THANK YOU.

AM I BEHAVING? THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MAE.

I'M JUST, I'M JUST, I WAS GONNA SAY, I'M SEEING YOU OVER HERE GETTING BY MONDAY.

IS THAT YOUR, WAS THAT YOUR, UH, SUGGESTION BY MONDAY? YES.

YEAH, THAT WAY, THAT WAY WE CAN MEET ON THIS, UH, THIS NEXT WEEK.

YES, MA'AM.

AND THEN, UH, UM, DO SOMETHING WITH THAT ONE.

NEXT WE GO TO 2 0 3.

THIS IS ON THE INVESTMENTS, UM, THROUGH THE CHAIR.

UM, I HAD, UM, A LITTLE BIT OF DISCUSSION.

UH, NO, A COMMENT TO OUR VICE MAYOR THEN WITH REGARDS TO THIS, UM, POLICY.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I HAVE MY NOTES IN THAT FOLDER THAT WAS GIVEN TO ME.

UM, AND THERE ARE A FEW THERE THAT I CANNOT REMEMBER RIGHT NOW.

THE NUMBERS ARE, I MEAN THE, THE LETTERS ARE JUMPING.

SO THIS IS THE INVESTMENT POLICY OF OUR CITY.

IS THIS SOMETHING THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, ME AND COUNCIL MEMBER BUSH CAN GO OVER AND, UH, AND UM, MAKE OUR RECOMMENDATION FOR YOUR APPROVAL.

'CAUSE THERE'S REALLY A LOT OF THINGS HERE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, SOME ARE LIKE TOO OLD I UNDERSTAND, BUT I THINK, UM, UM, LANGUAGE THAT WE CAN ALSO, UM, MAKE A RECOMMENDATION WITH, WITH, UM, TO, TO THE COUNCIL.

SO IF YOU WILL ALLOW MYSELF AND, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER BUSH TO GO OVER THIS POLICY 2 0 3, AND WE WILL GET BACK WITH YOU FOR THE RECOMMENDATION.

I, I WOULD ASK THAT THE SUBCOMMITTEE OR YOURSELF AND AND MEMBER BUSH, THAT YOU WOULD ALSO FORWARD THAT STUFF THROUGH? ABSOLUTELY.

BOTH OUR ATTORNEY AND ALSO OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT.

JUST SO IF THEY HAVE ANY, YOU KNOW, ANY HICCUPS OR, YOU KNOW, UH, IS ILLEGAL OR FINANCIAL ISSUES, UH, SO THAT, THAT WOULDN'T, THAT, THAT COULD BE DEALT WITH AHEAD OF TIME.

MAYOR, WE ARE, THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY SUGGESTION.

IN THAT, IN THAT CASE, WE WOULD HOLD OVER, UH, 2 0 3 0 3.

YES, MA'AM.

ALSO TO COME BACK ON THE 17TH.

YES, MAYOR.

IS THAT OKAY WITH EVERYONE? YES.

WITH THAT, I THINK WE HAVE VOTED ON ALL THE REST OF 'EM, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF 1 21 AND 2 0 3.

AND, UH, THOSE WOULD COME BACK TO US ON THE 17TH.

THANK YOU MA'AM.

AND, AND WITH THAT, WAS THERE ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT, UM, LIKE 600 AND SOME OTHER POLICIES OR WAS, UH, THE CITY CLERK, WAS SHELLY LOOKING AT THAT? LET ME ASK THE CITY CLERK.

ARE WE COMING BACK WITH OTHER BUNDLES OF CITY POLICIES TO UPGRADE? SO GENERALLY, UM, THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE DOES AN ANNUAL ON THE, ON THE MAJORITY OF THE, THE, UM, POLICIES.

THERE ARE SOME DE DEPARTMENTS, UM, SUCH AS THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT AND SOME HR, UM, THAT WE HAVE NEW DIRECTORS IN THOSE DEPARTMENTS.

AND SO WE WILL, UM, WAIT FOR THEM TO GIVE ME SOME FEEDBACK ON THOSE BEFORE I BRING THEM TO COUNSEL JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, UNDER THEIR LEGAL QUALIFICATIONS.

SO.

OKAY, I LIKE THAT.

BUT YES, WE WILL BRING 'EM IN THE, IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

THANK.

ALRIGHT THEN.

SO THAT GETS US THROUGH ALL OF THAT.

AND, UH, NEXT, UH, SO THAT WAS 11.2.

NEXT WE GET TO, UH, CITY MANAGER'S REPORT.

I, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.

WE GO ON INTO OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS REPORT.

I LIKE THAT.

OKAY, NEXT

[13.1 POLICY 105 REQUEST - Our Future is Homeownership - Create a Home Ownership Sub-Committee Requested by Councilmembers Rodriguez & Yamane]

FIRST THING WE HAVE IS, UH, WE DO HAVE A POLICY 1 0 5 REQUEST.

UH, IT'S 13.1 AND THAT IS ON A, UH, OWNERSHIP AND, UH, OWNERSHIP

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SUBCOMMITTEE.

AND SO I WILL LOOK TO, UH, AT THIS POINT, WE CAN'T DIS DISCUSS IT TONIGHT.

THERE IS STUFF WITHIN OUR AGENDA, BUT IF YOU WANT TO JUST BRIEFLY JUST SAY WHAT, WHAT IT IS WITHOUT GOING INTO DISCUSSION OF IT, UH, UH, LEAVE IT UP TO THE TWO OF YOU WHO SIGNED ONTO IT.

UM, AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR, UH, ACKNOWLEDGING OR ENTERTAINING THIS, UH, REQUEST FOR A 1 0 5.

UM, WE BELIEVE THAT THE, UH, POLICY, THE CHANGE OF REQUEST FORM HAS BEEN UPDATED THAT WE ADOPTED.

AND I, I BELIEVE THAT, UM, IT IS, UM, ALL HERE WHAT WE ARE WANTING TO, UM, TO PROVIDE.

AND, UM, I, I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT, UM, THAT NEW FORM, UM, IS MORE KIND OF DETAILED, UM, THAT YOU CAN GET THE, UH, THE, UH, THE KIND OF GET THE RESULT OF WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO MM-HMM .

UH, TO, UM, REQUEST.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN THE TITLE OF THIS IS OUR FUTURE IS HOME OWNERSHIP AS WHAT, UM, WE ARE, UM, DEALING WITH RIGHT NOW.

AND I, WE WERE GONNA REQUEST FOR YOUR, UM, APPROVAL TO, UM, HAVE A SUBCOMMITTEE ON THIS PROGRAM.

UM, WITH MYSELF AND COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, RODRIGUEZ.

UM, YEAH, NO, WE MUST BUILD HOME OWNERSHIP AND WE MUST FIND A WAY TO BUILD IT ON PUBLIC LAND, ON PRIVATE LAND.

AND SO THIS IS A ATTEMPT FOR US TO CREATE A COMMITTEE AND ENTERTAIN ALL THE, UM, POTENTIAL DIFFICULTIES, UM, THAT CHALLENGES THAT COME WITH DEVELOPING MORE UNITS THAT ARE FOR SALE IN NATIONAL CITY.

UM, AGAIN, ON PRIVATE LAND, WE DO HAVE THE OWN NATIONAL CITY PROGRAM, WHICH IS INTENDED TO BUILD ON PUBLIC LAND, BUT, UH, WE, WE DEFINITELY NEED TO FOCUS MORE SO ON, ON CONSTRUCTION OF UNITS THAT ARE FOR SALE.

AND THIS, THIS SUBCOMMITTEE IS INTENDED TO LOOK INTO THEM, CREATE A ROUND TABLE DISCUSSION WITH OTHERS THAT ARE EXPERTS IN THEIR FIELD AND GO FORWARD FOR THERE AND FROM THERE AND MAKE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE COUNCIL AND THE MONTHS AHEAD.

YOU GUYS ARE GONNA HAVE TO BE CREATIVE BECAUSE AS A RE WHEN WE HAD REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY, THEY ACTUALLY HAD MONEY SET ASIDE TO DO THAT KINDA STUFF AND DON'T HAVE THAT ANYMORE, BUT, SO GOTTA, GOTTA GET CREATIVE.

UM, THIS IS A, UH, HAVEN'T HAD IT FOR LIKE 10 YEARS THOUGH.

I KNOW IT.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S REALLY GOOD WITH, WITH HOUSING AND AMONG OTHER THINGS AND WITH, UH, BRINGING IN BUSINESS, UM, WHICH WOULD'VE BROUGHT MORE REVENUE TO THE STATE THAN DOING AWAY WITH REDEVELOPMENT EVER DID.

BUT, UH, UH, ANYWAY, THAT'LL BE A COMMENT FOR ANOTHER DAY.

UH, WITH THAT I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, UH, MOVE FORWARD AND CREATE A SUBCOMMITTEE WITH, UH, MEMBER YAMANI AND RODRIGUEZ AND TO COME BACK, UH, FOR THE COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION AND DISCUSSION.

SECOND ON HOME OWNERSHIP.

AND THERE'S HIGHER PRIORITIES, ACTUALLY.

MAYOR, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM.

OH YES WE DO.

I KNOW THIS IS A FIRST ATTEMPT TO USE THIS FORM, SO IT'S SORT OF A TRIAL RUN.

SO, BUT AS I LOOK AT THIS, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO, I HAVE TO, I ONLY HAVE TWO MINUTES TO TALK HERE.

I THINK IT NEEDS A LOT MORE WORK IN DESCRIBING EXACTLY WHAT THE OUTCOME IS.

I THINK THERE'S TOO MUCH RISK HERE FOR, UM, SCOPE CREEP.

SCOPE CREEP, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTAND WHAT SCOPE CREEP HERE, NOT DEFINING EXACTLY WHAT IS IT YOU WANT AND HOW FAR THE SCOPE SHOULD BE.

UH, I DON'T THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T, YOU'RE NOT DEFINING OR AT LEAST GUESSING HOW MUCH STAFF TIME THIS IS GONNA TAKE BECAUSE IT COULD TAKE A LOT OF TIME.

I MEAN, YOU NEVER SHOULD ASK A QUESTION UNLESS YOU KNOW SOME SORT OF ANSWER.

AND I THINK THIS IS A QUESTION YOU DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT TYPE OF RESOURCES MM-HMM .

YOU'RE GONNA NEED AND COULD GET OUTTA SCOPE REALLY QUICK, REQUIRE A LOT OF TIME THAT YOU KNOW, THAT'S VERY VALUABLE.

YOU HAVE FINANCIAL PRIORITIES AND I THINK YOU NEED TO, UH, REALLY FOCUS ON THAT.

UM, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T HELP BUT THINK ABOUT IT.

YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT PROJECTS AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, USING THE ECONOMIC CONTINGENCY FOR, UH, FUND.

I HOPE YOU GUYS DON'T COME UP AND SAY, LET'S USE THIS FOR THIS.

COME UP WITH A COMMITTEE TO USE THE ECONOMIC CONTINGENCY FUND.

'CAUSE THAT'S NOT CREATIVE.

THAT'S AN EASY WAY.

YOU NEED A HARD DECISION.

SOMETHING THAT'S, SO YOU NEED TO THINK OF OUTCOMES INSTEAD OF OUTPUTS, NOT HAVE MEETINGS WITH NO

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MEANING AND NOBODY SHOWS UP AND YOU SPEND A LOT OF MONEY AND STAFF TIME.

I'VE SEEN THAT AND I HOPE YOU GUYS DON'T REPEAT THAT SAME MISTAKE.

THAT'S FAIR.

YES, THANK YOU MR. THANK YOU MR. NIHA.

I THINK THAT'S, THOSE ARE FAIR COMMENTS.

I WOULD JUST ON THAT, UM, SAY TO THE, I, I THINK THIS STILL HAS TO COME BACK BEFORE CITY COUNCIL, SO WE CAN'T YES.

JUST DISCUSS IT TOO MUCH.

BUT JUST TO RESPOND TO THAT, PERHAPS THE COMMITTEE CAN THINK OF.

SO ONE OF THE OUTCOMES, IF OUR HOME OWNERSHIP RATE IS AT 30%, MAYBE THE OUTCOME WOULD BE, UH, INCREASING THAT TO 35% A CERTAIN YEAR, 40%, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

UM, SO THERE, I THINK THERE'S WAYS AND THEN I THINK IN THE PA IN THE FORM IT, THAT STAFF TIME, I THINK THAT, THAT THAT'S IN THERE.

SO YEAH.

AND, UH, YEAH, THERE'S NO TIME LIMIT ON THIS AND SO I'LL GIVE YOU GUYS TIME TO, 'CAUSE I SAY IT IS, THERE'S NO MAGIC FORMULA.

COME UP WITH EASY SOLUTIONS ON THE HOUSING SITUATION, OTHERWISE EVERYONE WOULD BE DOING IT.

SO CREATIVITY, MAYOR, CREATIVITY, TIME.

AND, AND THAT, THAT'S INCLUDED.

AND OF COURSE WE HAVE TO PULL, UM, EXPERIENCES AND, UH, AND KNOWLEDGE FROM, UH, PRIVATE AND UH, PUBLIC PARTNERSHIPS.

SO THEN, UM, WE CAN HAVE A, UH, UH, A GOOD, UH, PROPOSAL TO, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN FOR THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL TO, TO APPROVE.

MR. MAYOR? NO, I, I, I'M GLAD WE HAD THE CONVERSATION ABOUT DEVELOPMENT IMPACT PIECE TODAY BECAUSE IT IS A PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT WORLD.

UM, BUT THERE ARE A GREAT MANY OBSTACLES THAT DEVELOPERS EVEN THAT ARE INTERESTED IN BUILDING MORE HOME OWNERSHIP HAVE TO CONSTANTLY FACE MM-HMM .

AND SO I, I DEFINITELY LOOK FORWARD TO A, A ROUND TABLE DISCUSSION WITH FOLKS THAT ARE EXPERTS IN THEIR FIELD.

AND BRING SOME GOOD IDEAS BACK TO COUNCIL, HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.

DID WE, UH, VOTE ON THAT ALREADY? NO, I DIDN'T THINK SO, BUT NO, IT'S NOT, LET ME PUT IN THE MOTION.

SO YOU MIGHT WANNA RE-HIT IT NOW.

I DID.

AND WHO WAS IT SECONDED ON THAT? I THINK BUSH.

ALRIGHT, NOW WE GOT HIM IN THERE.

UM, OKAY.

UNLESS THERE'S MORE DISCUSSION, THIS IS JUST TO, UH, APPOINT A SUBCOMMITTEE AND ALLOW THEM TO BRING THIS BACK FOR OUR CONSIDERATION AND DISCUSSION.

UM, WITH THAT, PLEASE VOTE, MOTION TO APPROVE UNANIMOUSLY.

HE STARTED OCTOBER 1ST, 2024.

THAT ONE GOES WITH THAT.

UM, CITY MANAGER, I THINK YOU, YOU, YOU SKIPPED ON AN ITEM, SO WE'LL LET YOU COME BACK TO YOU.

YEAH, I DID SKIP ON SOMETHING AND I WANTED TO BRING THIS UP.

UH, IT'S VERY POETIC THAT HE'S HERE 'CAUSE HE'S ALWAYS HERE AT, TO THE VERY END.

UH, BRUCE IS LEAVING US, AND THIS IS GONNA BE HIS LAST, UH, COUNCIL MEETING.

A LITTLE BIT ABOUT BRUCE.

AND WHEN I ASKED HIM IF THERE WAS ANYTHING THAT HE WANTED ME TO HIGHLIGHT ABOUT HIM, HE'S ALL ABOUT BEING BRIEF.

AND THEN HE TALKED ABOUT HELPING STREAMLINE THE BUDGET PROCESS, WHICH HE DID.

HE WORKED WELL WITH ALL OF US.

AND WE'RE GONNA MISS YOU BRUCE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

MAYOR, CAN I MAKE A COMMENT? YES.

TALK ABOUT BEING BRIEF.

YOUR STAY WITH US IS, UH, A BRIEF ONE.

SO, UM, I ALSO LEARNED A LOT FROM YOU, BRUCE.

I WAS SAD TO RECEIVE THAT NEWS.

UM, I WISH WE HAD YOU FOR LONGER.

I THINK YOU WERE SETTING US ON THE RIGHT TRACK AND, AND YES, I DO APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'VE DONE FOR THE CITY.

I WOULD LIKE TO SAY A COMMENT AS WELL.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE, BRUCE, TO OUR CITY.

IT IS VERY MUCH APPRECIATED.

UM, YOU CAME IN AT A VERY DIFFICULT TIME.

IT'S STILL A DIFFICULT TIME, BUT, UH, BUT REALLY THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP AND, AND HELPING US GET THROUGH THIS BUDGET CYCLE.

REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

UM, MAYOR, THANK YOU BRUCE FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, IN YOUR GUIDANCE AND THE EDUCATION THAT YOU HAVE PROVIDED MYSELF AND COUNSEL WITH REGARDS TO THE BUDGET STUDY.

UH, THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.

UH, WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE WITH OUR, UH, CIPS, UM, UM, SEPARATING IT FROM THE GENERAL FUND.

THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.

THAT WAS, UM, BRILLIANT.

UM, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE HERE AT NATIONAL CITY.

YOU WILL NOT FORGET, AS I'M SURE.

UM, AND GOOD LUCK TO YOUR, UH, AND BEST WISHES, SIR, FOR YOUR NEXT, UM, ENDEAVOR.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, SIR.

UH, IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE SERVING AS YOUR FINANCE DIRECTOR AND, UM, IT'S BEEN ENJOYABLE AND I WISH YOU THE BEST LUCK.

OKAY, NOW WE GO TO, UH, THE REST OF, WE'RE STILL UNDER COUNCIL COMMENTS AT THIS DEAL, SO I'LL START DOWN HERE ON MY LEFT.

NOTHING TO REPORT, MR. MAYOR.

OKAY, NEXT.

NO REPORT, MR. MAYOR.

THAT YOU HELPED GET US THROUGH WAS THE MUNI IMPLEMENTATION, AND I KNOW THAT WAS A MESS.

I, AM I RIGHT? YES.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, BRUCE.

I REALLY APPRECIATE, UH, YOUR SERVICE AND A SPECIAL SHOUT OUT TO ONE OF THE REALLY DIFFICULT THINGS

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SO THANK, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH, UH, FOR THAT.

SO REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE AND GOOD LUCK ON YOUR FUTURE ENDEAVORS.

UH, WANTED TO, UH, GIVE AN UPDATE ABOUT THE, UH, 24TH STREET MURAL PROJECT.

WE FINALLY GOT STARTED, UH, THIS PAST WEEK AFTER, UH, TWO MONTH DELAY FROM, UH, MTS.

AND I REALLY WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO OUR, UH, GRAFFITI TECH, UH, JAMES KIM, UH, ON MY REQUEST.

HE CAME TO, UH, MTS TO OUR BOARD MEETING AND, UM, WAS VERY TACTFUL IN, UH, ADDRESSING THE DELAYS IN THE ISSUES, WHICH I REALLY APPRECIATES THAT, REALLY GOT THAT GOING.

UM, AND REALLY WANT TO THANK, UH, RONNIE AND, UH, OUR, OUR CITY, UH, OUR ACTING CITY MANAGER, UH, ALEX HERNANDEZ FOR APPROVING SOME OF THE, UH, EXPENDITURES.

THERE WAS A LADDER THAT WE HAD TO, UH, PURCHASE A FIBER FIBERGLASS LADDER THAT DID SAVE A LOT OF TIME.

SO THEN MTS DIDN'T HAVE TO POWER DOWN THE WHOLE, UH, TROLLEY SECTION, UH, AND LEC ELECTRICITY.

SO IT SAVED TIMES AND, UH, SAVED JUST, JUST RESOURCES AND, AND COORDINATION.

SO, UM, AND I, AND I DO APPRECIATE MTS FOR GETTING THIS GOING.

SO WHEN YOU, UH, ALL DRIVE PAST THE I FIVE, YOU CAN ALREADY SEE THAT WEST FACADE ALREADY, UH, REALLY, UM, REALLY COMING TOGETHER AND I WOULD SAY IT'S ABOUT 50 TO 60% COMPLETE, HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT WEEK, MAYBE TWO WEEKS.

IT SHOULD ALL BE COMPLETE.

AND THEY'RE, UM, PLANNING, UM, VISION CULTURE FOUNDATION IS PLANNING A BIG OPENING AND CELEBRATION.

THEY DON'T HAVE A, A DATE YET FOR THAT, BUT, BUT THAT'S EXCITING THERE.

UH, AND AS PART OF THAT, UH, I DO WANT TO GIVE A, A SHOUT OUT TO, UH, VISION CULTURE FOUNDATION IN GENERAL.

THEY DO, UH, A LOT OF GREAT WORK IN THE COMMUNITY AND TOMORROW THEY HAVE, UH, MEN'S, UH, MENTAL HEALTH, UH, SUPPORT, UH, CIRCLE BACK, SO WANNA INVITE, UH, THE PUBLIC AND, AND FOLKS TO THAT.

IT'S CALLED THE LINK UP AND IT'S A SAFE, SUPPORTIVE SPACE, WELCOMES MEN IN THE COMMUNITY TO SIT WITH ONE ANOTHER.

CONNECT AND HEAL IS NAVIGATE LIFE'S MANY CHALLENGES.

SO IT'S INVITED TO THE PUBLIC, UH, SEAT AT THE TABLE TO LISTEN TO SHARE, BE HEARD, GATHER IN UNITY.

UM, AND SO THAT'S, UH, TOMORROW WEDNESDAY, UH, JANUARY 21ST, UH, FROM SIX TO 7:30 PM AND THEY HAVE THIS MEN'S, UH, SUPPORT CIRCLE EVERY, UH, THIRD WEDNESDAY OF THE MONTH.

UM, AND IT'S AT VISION CULTURE FOUNDATION, LOCATED AT 24 40 HIGHLAND AVENUE, WHICH IS JUST ACROSS THE STREET AND, AND, UH, UH, THE VICE MAYOR'S, UH, DISTRICT AND SEVEN 11.

YES, RIGHT NEXT TO SEVEN 11.

AND THEY HAVE A, A LOT OF EVENTS.

THEY HAVE SOME YOUTH SUP, UH, SUPPORT, UH, MENTAL HEALTH SUPPORT GROUPS.

UM, THEY DO A LOT OF ART WORKSHOPS.

SO JUST, UM, A GREAT, UH, LOCAL NONPROFIT THAT'S DOING AMAZING WORK IN THE COMMUNITY.

UH, THANK YOU TO STAFF.

WELCOME BACK EVERYBODY.

I AM VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS NEXT YEAR.

UM, I, I WANNA CONGRATULATE OUR PORT COMMISSIONER, DR.

GIL UNGA.

WE WERE ALL HERE, UM, PRESENT AT HIS SWEARING IN CEREMONY LAST WEEK, OR WAS IT THIS WEEK? I DON'T EVEN REMEMBER NOW.

LAST WEEK.

UM, HE IS NOW, UH, SECRETARY, UH, OF THE BOARD OF THE, OF THE COMMISSION, THE PORT COMMISSION.

UM, YOU'LL REMEMBER OUR, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE PORT, UH, SKIPPED THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY OVER FOR A BOARD POSITION, BUT THAT'S IN THE PAST.

THIS TIME AROUND.

WE CERTAINLY HAVE OUR COMMISSIONER REPRESENTING OUR CITY ON THE, UH, AS A OFFICER, UH, OF THE BOARD.

SO I'M VERY PROUD OF THAT.

HE IS SECRETARY THIS YEAR.

UM, AND I WILL RESUME MY DISTRICT ONE TOWN HALLS NEXT WEEK ON WEDNESDAY, RIGHT NEXT DOOR AT 6:00 PM THE PUBLIC IS WELCOME.

ANYBODY, YOU DON'T HAVE TO LIVE IN DISTRICT ONE, BUT WE DO FOCUS ON DISTRICT ONE ISSUES.

SO GET, GET THAT ONE GOING.

UH, FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO ASK MEMBER BUSH, DO YOU KNOW ANYONE DOWN IN MTS THAT CAN STRAIGHTEN THEM OUT? JUST, I, I JUST, I JUST, OKAY.

ANY CONNECTIONS? UH, A FEW.

UM, JUST A, A COUPLE QUICK THINGS.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS, UM, YOU KNOW, WHICH I WAS GONNA MENTION ON, ON, UH, GIL, WHICH WAS, WHICH WAS A GREAT DEAL, UH, FOR HIM.

UM, AND WE DO HAVE, UH, ANN MOORE THIS YEAR AS, AS THE CHAIR, WHICH I THINK IS GONNA BE A GREAT BENEFIT AS SHE REALLY DOES HAVE A SOUTH BAY, UH, ATTITUDE, UH, CONCERNING THE PORT.

SO WE'RE GONNA, UH, TRY TO CAPITALIZE ON THAT THE BEST WE CAN.

UH, THE OTHER THING WAS SATURDAY MORNING WE HAD THE KICKOFF FOR THE, UH, NATIONAL CITY, UH, CANCER, UH, WALK AND, UH, UH, IT WAS OVER AT AMERICAN LEGION.

AND I AM GLAD NONE OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT SHOWED UP AS WE WERE NOT LOOKING AT CAPACITY IN THERE.

LET ME JUST PUT IT THAT WAY, .

SO THERE, LET'S JUST SAY A LOT OF PEOPLE SHOWED UP, BUT FOR A GREAT CAUSE.

AND, UH, UH,

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SO, UH, ONCE AGAIN, THE, THE, THE SPIRIT OF OF COMMUNITY IN NATIONAL CITY IS ALIVE AND WELL AND, UH, UH, IT WAS GREAT, GREAT TO SEE EVERYONE COMING TOGETHER FOR THAT.

SO, UM, WITH THAT, UM, WE'RE OFF TO A, WE'RE OFF TO ANOTHER YEAR AND, UH, WE'LL SEE WHAT ALL WE CAN, WHAT ALL WE CAN WORK TOGETHER.

AND IN THE SPIRIT OF, I KNOW WHAT, UH, LILIANA MENTA BROUGHT UP, UH, AND AS A COMMUNITY PULLING TOGETHER, WE CAN MAKE THINGS HAPPEN.

SO WITH

[14. CITY ATTORNEY REPORT]

THAT, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO OUR CITY ATTORNEY TO REPORT OUT OF CLOSED SESSION.

SO THE COUNCIL MET IN CLOSED SESSION ON FOUR DIFFERENT ITEMS. THE FIRST ITEM 5.1 WAS, UH, COUNCILMAN CLOSED SESSION REGARDING THE POSITION OF INTERIM CITY ATTORNEY UNDER GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 4 9 5 7 B ONE.

AS A RESULT OF THAT MEETING, THEY HAVE AUTHORIZED STAFF TO NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT FOR INTERIM CITY ATTORNEY.

UH, THE VOTE FOR THAT WAS FOR IN FAVOR, ONE OF ABSTENTION.

THE SECOND ITEM WAS, UH, CONFERENCE WITH LABOR NEGOTIATORS UNDER GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 4 9 5 7 0.6.

THE ASSOCIATION WAS A POLICE OFFICER'S ASSOCIATION, NO REPORTABLE ACTION.

THIRD ITEM, PUBLIC EMPLOYMENT GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 4 9 5 7 B ONE FOR THE POSITION OF CITY MANAGER.

NO REPORTABLE ACTION.

AND THE FINAL ITEM WITH WAS ON EXISTING LITIGATION UNDER GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 4 9 5 6 0.9 D ONE FOR THE CASE OF GOGI VERSUS CITY OF NATIONAL CITY AND NO REPORTABLE ACTION.

JUST SAY IT WAS A DIFFERENT GO.

GEE, I'LL JUST PUT IT THAT WAY.

UM, NO ONE MISUNDERSTANDS ON THAT.

OKAY, WITH THAT, UM, WE ARE ADJOURNED UNTIL, UH, THE 3RD OF FEBRUARY.