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[00:00:02]

GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY.

IT'S

[Library Board on December 3, 2025.]

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WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND CALL OUR MEETING TO ORDER IF WE CAN HAVE ROLE .

UH, CHAIR HERE.

CHAIR .

UM, NUMBER, HONOR.

LOREN HERE.

JOSE LOPEZ.

HERE AND HERE.

WELL, WE HAVE A QUO.

NO PUBLIC COMMENT.

NO PROBLEM.

OKAY, SO WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO THE GOOGLE OF THE, UH, CONSENT AGENDA.

AND THE TOTAL SAYS ONLY FOR THE DVDS AND THE BLUERAY THAT THE SENT EQUIPMENT WAS, UH, BRA .

TOTALLY NOT, YOU'RE RIGHT.

UH, THAT'S A MISTAKE.

OKAY, I'LL FIX THAT MORE ABOUT .

OKAY.

ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MINUTES OR THE AGENDA OUT? WAS THE WARRANT? I DON'T THINK SO.

I DON'T REMEMBER.

I THINK WE DISCUSSED MORE UNDER, UH, COMMENTS, BUT I DON'T, HONESTLY, I DON'T REMEMBER.

WE DON'T PUT EVERYTHING BECAUSE IT'S JUST YOU WATCH THE VIDEO, SO YEAH, WE'RE GOOD.

APPROVE, UH, BY MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE AGENDA.

I SECOND MOVE A SECOND TO APPROVE, UH, CONSENT AGENDA.

UH, .

AYE.

AYE AYE.

ALRIGHT.

UH, NEW AND UNFINISHED BUSINESS.

THIS IS WHERE I CAN, UM, TALK ABOUT THE, THE WHOLE QUESTION OF USING .

IS THAT YES.

OKAY.

SO OUR TREASURER IS GONNA LOOK INTO IT.

'CAUSE I, AS I TOLD YOU, WE TALKED ABOUT IT A COUPLE OF TIMES BEFORE.

IT'S ALWAYS BEEN LIKE, WELL, IT'S GONNA BE PRETTY, UH, PROBLEMATIC FOR OUR GROUP.

BUT WHEN I BROUGHT IT UP AGAIN THIS TIME HE SAYS, OKAY, I'M GONNA LOOK INTO IT.

I'M GONNA SEE EXACTLY WHAT CAN HAPPEN AND HOW, HOW WE CAN MAKE WORK.

YEAH.

SO WE ARE TAKING STEPS TOWARDS GOOD.

IN THAT DIRECTION.

THANK YOU.

FOR SURE.

OKAY.

AND , OUR BELOVED MARIA IS RETIRING.

SHE'S BEEN A REALLY AN ICON OF THE LIBRARY FOR YEARS, SINCE MY SON IS 30 NOW.

COURSE SHE WAS THE WELL STATUS FOR THE TIME AROUND FOR , UH, FAMILY ACTIVITIES.

SO, UH, WE'RE GONNA MISS HER.

UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE OR NO, I'M FINISHED.

NO.

OKAY.

HOW, YEAH, SO THE ARTS PARTNERSHIP AT THE LIBRARY, SO THEY ARE DECORATING MURAL OF CHILDREN'S DEPARTMENT.

MM-HMM .

IT IS GONNA BE COMPLETED HOPEFULLY BY THE END OF DECEMBER BEFORE WE CLOSE.

NICE.

UM, SO WE COLOR, UH, IT'S VERY ENGAGING SO THE CHILDREN SO YOU GUYS CAN CHECK IT OUT.

UM, AND YEAH, I THINK OVERALL IT JUST NEEDS A SPACE A LOT MORE.

WELL, KIND OF LIKE WHAT WE EXPECT.

WE ALSO HAD THE DC WATER HIGH SCHOOL FAIR.

UM, THERE WAS FOUR OH OR 40 DEGREES.

UM, MERV,

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OUR SENIOR LIBRARY AND KIM, OUR CHILDREN KILLER, UH, MANAGE THE BOOTH FOR US.

THEY GIVE AWAY LIKE, UH, PREMIUMS AND ALSO GIVE INFORMATION, VOLUNTEERING STUFF AT THE LIBRARY.

THEY HAVE 300, UH, INTERACTIONS WITH THE STUDENTS.

SO THAT'S PROBABLY, UM, IT, IT'S BEEN OUR FIRST TIME BACK AFTER COUPLE YEARS, SO WE ARE HOPING TO BE BACK THEN SOON.

UM, WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR VOLUNTEERS AT THE LIBRARY CITY.

SO IT'S, IT'S A REALLY GOOD RESOURCE TO LIKE KEEP AND, AND IT'S PRETTY MUCH UM, AND YOU'RE GOING TO BE HAVING THE VILLE? YES.

ON SATURDAY.

THIS SATURDAY, UH, ONE THREE O'CLOCK.

UM, THERE'S GONNA BE PAST, UM, DEPENDS.

LIBRARY.

WE HAVE KITCHEN DECORATIONS IS WHAT THEY, NO, THEY'D BE DECORATING AND WE'RE GONNA BE RAFFLING THE BASKETS, UH, ON .

AND SANTA'S GONNA BE THERE.

AND I THINK THE GRIN AT LEAST ONE GRAND 12 FOOT? NO.

OH, DANNY DANNY'S USUALLY THE ONE DRESSED UP AS SO MAYBE SO DID YOU COME LAST YEAR? THINK I IF WE GO LIKE EVERY YEAR? YEAH.

NO, I THINK IT'S SOMEBODY ELSE.

'CAUSE THE GUY'S LIKE SUPER DUPER TALL.

OH, OKAY.

I THINK IT'S HER.

OKAY.

YEAH.

AND SHE WEARS A BRIDGE, UH, SWEATER.

YEAH.

AND, UH, IT'S ALL GREEN.

CHE, LIKE A S WHISTLE.

YEAH.

YEAH.

AND GROUPS SOMETIMES LIKE TAKE YEAH.

WE'RE ALSO DECORATING THE FRONT DOOR, SO, NICE.

IT IS GING TOO, SO TO SPEAK.

IT'S LIKE THE WHOLE FRONT.

UM, AND, UH, A KIMBALL HOLIDAY IS NEXT SEVEN.

AND UH, AND THE LIBRARY WILL HAVE A .

YES.

WHERE DOES THAT HELP? IN THE PARK, KIMBALL.

OH, OH, IN PARK.

OH YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I HAD THE SNOW.

YES.

YEAH, THEY HAVE THE TREE LIGHTING IF LIKE COFFEE LIGHTING.

YEAH.

YEAH.

SO TWO.

YEAH, SO THAT'S GOOD.

IN THE LIBRARY WILL BE CLOSED STARTING THE 19TH.

AND THAT'S OKAY.

SO, UM, I TAKE THE TAI CHI CLASSES THERE AND THERE'S NOT GONNA BE TAI CHI THAT WEEK.

DO YOU KNOW WHY THEY CAN'T BE THERE THAT WEEK? NEXT WEEK AND THEN COMING BACK IN JANUARY.

BUT WHY CAN'T THEY BE THERE THE LAST WEEK? I KNOW.

TO ? NO, NO.

SHE, SHE, SHE WAS DISAPPOINTED THAT SHE WAS BE ABLE TO BE THERE THE LAST WEEK.

I'M NOT SURE ABOUT TALKING.

NO.

BECAUSE THERE'S SUCH A LONG WEEK BEFORE WE COME BACK AGAIN AND, AND TO HAVE THAT PROBLEM OPEN.

I DID YOU ANSWER? SHE, OKAY, GREAT.

UH, AND FRIENDS, SO OF COURSE, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE GONNA BE AT VILLE.

WE'LL HAVE OUR, UM, OUR RAFFLE, HOPEFULLY .

WE BUY A LOT OF MONEY.

GOT TICKETS.

TICKETS FOR THE RAFFLE.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, OF ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO VOLUNTEER, SEND THEM OUR WAY WITH NO SHOULD MORE VOLUNTEERS.

I LOOK AT THE, UM, BOOKSTORE, BUT THE BOOKSTORE SEEMS TO BE DOING ALL RIGHT, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE'VE HOOKED UP WITH THIS ONE ORGANIZATION YOUNG MAN STARTED WHERE, UM, HE COMES AND HE GETS THE BOOKS THAT SHOW THAT HE'LL BE ABLE TO SELL, RESELL 'EM ON ONLINE.

MM-HMM .

AND SO HE GETS, HE GETS HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS FOR SOME OF THE BOOKS, AND THEN WE GET A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF IT.

SO WHEREAS WE WOULD'VE GOTTEN A DOLLAR 50 FOR A CERTAIN BOOK, WE'RE GETTING LIKE $40.

IT'S AWESOME.

YEAH.

SO THAT'S REALLY GOOD.

OKAY.

SO WE'RE ALL THE WAY TO COMMENTS THEN.

AND I BELIEVE, I'M SORRY, I THINK CINDY IS NOT NO LONGER GONNA BE ON THE BOARD FOR, SHE JUST YEAH, NO, TO US.

.

NO.

OKAY.

SO WE HAVE A VACANCY THAT'LL BE ANNOUNCED.

I HAVE A COMMENT.

UM, I'M REALLY HAPPY OUTREACH OF THE HIGH SCHOOL.

I JUST WANNA GO.

WE, I TEACH AT A COMMUNITY COLLEGE AND THE, THE STUDENTS ARE LIKE BETWEEN 18 AND, YOU KNOW, 25 YEARS OLD.

AND,

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UM, I FIND IT REALLY SURPRISING.

I STARTED ASKING ALL MY CLASSES, HOW MANY OF THEM HAVE A LIBRARY CARD? AND THEY ALMOST NEVER DO.

NONE OF MY STUDENTS HAVE EVER BEEN TO A PUBLIC LIBRARY.

HAVE I CHECKED WHATSAPP? AND I'M REALLY JUST THINKING ABOUT STRATEGIES, ESPECIALLY FOR GETTING TEAMS. UM, I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME ISSUES WITH THE TV ISSUES IN THE LIBRARY, SO LIKE GETTING THE TEAMS INTO THE LIBRARY IN, IN GOOD HEALTHY WAYS AND LIKE HELPING 'EM TO SEE WHAT AN INCREDIBLE RESOURCE LIBRARIES ARE AND THAT IT'S A SPACE THAT'S REALLY FREE FOR THEM AND THAT HAS SO MUCH TO OFFER THEM.

UM, I MEAN, I THINK IT STARTS, IT'S HELPFUL WHEN IT STARTS IN CHILDHOOD, RIGHT? MM-HMM .

BUT, UM, IT'S REALLY INTERESTING FOR ME TO, TO SEE THAT AND TO NOTICE HOW MANY, THOSE STUDENTS JUST DON'T INTERACT AND THEY'RE NOT, THIS IS NOT NATIONAL CITY, THIS IS IN SAN DIEGO.

UM, SOME OF 'EM ARE FROM HERE, SOME OF THEM FROM VISTA.

SO, UM, NOT PUTTING THAT ON YOU OR ANYTHING, I THINK IT'S JUST LIKE A WHOLE COMMUNITY, UM, EFFORT, BUT JUST SORT OF LIKE, THAT'S A THING I'M INTERESTED IN THINKING ABOUT AND TALKING ABOUT, UM, AND FIGURING OUT HOW WE CAN DO MORE THINGS FOR THE TEENAGERS, UM, TO GET THEM TO SEE THE, THE, THE REAL BENEFIT OF LIBRARIES TO THAT.

YEAH.

FROM, FROM MY EXPERIENCE, I FEEL LIKE THE BIGGEST HURDLE IS REALLY JUST NOT THAT MM-HMM .

BECAUSE EVEN LIKE THE LITERACY DEPARTMENT, CLASSES, WE, WE AND THEY CAN ADD THAT TO US.

HE'S LIKE, THEY JUST DUNNO ABOUT IT.

AND SO IT'S JUST REALLY SPREADING WORD.

UM, OUR SOCIAL MEDIA THING GO SO FAR.

WE'RE DEFINITELY REACHING SCHOOLS, YOU KNOW, OTHER, OTHER PLACES OUTSIDE OF NATIONAL CITY.

YOU KNOW, WE, WE TRY OUR BEST TO SPLIT PEOPLE, BUT IT'S, IT'S AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHAT I REALIZE IS THEY JUST DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE TOUCH SHEET WITH THE .

I'VE NEVER SEEN A LIBRARY TOUCH.

NO, THAT'S TYPICALLY SMART SHEET.

YEAH.

IT'S ALL FAITH.

SO IT'S REALLY INFORMATION.

THE TOOLS, THE TOOL LIBRARY.

YEAH.

THAT LIKE MAN AND THE RIGHT WORD, BUT YOU KNOW, LIKE ALL THE STUFF THAT LIKE REALLY APPEAL TO THEM THAT THEY JUST DON'T YEAH.

YEAH.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE AN INFLUX OF, UH, CHECKOUTS FOR AFTER WAS ON KS.

OH YEAH.

YEAH.

SO ITS KIND NICE BECAUSE THEN YOU KNOW THAT WE'RE GETTING PLAY, BUT YEAH.

I FEEL LIKE THAT'S SPACE ONCE THEY KNOW, LIKE THEY JUST COME BACK.

YEAH.

GET EXCITED.

SO HIGH.

YOU KNOW, HIGH SCHOOL AVERAGE I'S GREAT.

YEAH, DEFINITELY JUMP ON THE TROLLEY AND BRING THEM ON FIELD .

ABSOLUTELY.

YEAH.

I LOVE THAT.

FROM KIBBLE.

THAT'S WHAT WE JUMP ON THE TROLLEY AND WE GET PARK THAT'S AT THAT, UH, CITY COLLEGE TO GET TO THE PARK.

YEAH, YEAH.

YEAH.

IT'S EASY.

IT IS EASY.

YEAH.

YEAH.

THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, I, I WAS OUTSIDE A STORE AND A WOMAN WAS TALKING TO ANOTHER WOMAN AND UH, SHE SAID, OH, I HAVEN'T HAD A LIBRARY CARD SINCE I WAS A TEENAGER.

I SAID, HOW DO YOU EXIST ? YEAH.

WHAT DO THE, WHAT DO THE LIBRARY CARDS LOOK LIKE THESE DAYS? LIKE WITH LIKE A DESIGN I'M THINKING OF LIKE, IT'S VERY SIMPLE.

I WAS THINKING OF, YOU KNOW HOW LIKE, UM, THE MTS HAS THE PRONTO CARD AND THEY HAVE LIKE A NEW DESIGN AT RE THAT COULD BE KIND OF ACTUAL STAGE OR ORANGE AGE, A FUN CARD THAT A LOT OF MONEY.

YEAH.

YEAH.

AND I KNOW SOMETIMES I, I HOOK INTO THE NEW YORK, UM, LIBRARY AND THEY HAVE LIKE MARVELED YEAH.

CARDS AND ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT SPECIAL PARTS.

PRETTY AWESOME.

I THINK.

I THINK I HAVE AN OLD I DON'T HAVE ON, BUT IT'S JUST LIKE A BLUE COLLAR.

IT'S BLUE OR ORANGE.

OR ORANGE.

YES.

WHEN YOU WALK INTO CIVIL LIBRARY.

I JUST CHECKED OH, OKAY.

OVERDUE .

YEAH.

A SMALL CURATING VERSION.

SO, YEAH.

UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? WELL, IT'S SHORT AND SWEET.

I'M GLAD THAT WE CAME.

I KNOW THAT IF YOU'RE BUSY, ESPECIALLY THIS TIME OF YEAR, I HOPE YOU HAVE FANTASTIC, UH, CELEBRATING THE BRINGING 17 FRIENDS AND YOU THANK YOU ALL.

WHAT WAS THE SET? UM, I

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WOULD SUPPORT THAT YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE MEETING IN JANUARY? NO, THE QUESTION IS, DO YOU WANNA HAVE A MEETING IN JANUARY SINCE WE'LL BE CLOSED FROM NOW? YOU MENTIONED NOW UNTIL OUR NEXT MEETING.

SO THERE WON'T BE ANYTHING TO REPORT.

WE WON'T HAVE ANY WARRANTS.

SO THE QUESTIONS DO YOU WANNA HAVE THAT'S TRUE.

TRUE.

WELL, IF WE DON'T NEED TO, BUT THERE'S NOTHING TO DISCUSS.

I THINK IT'S OKAY IF WE DON'T.

FEBRUARY.

FEBRUARY, YES.

OKAY.

FOR SURE.

YEAH.

.

YES, THAT'S RIGHT.

SEND A REMINDER BECAUSE I WILL FORGET AND NOT SO .

YES, .

YEAH.

SEE THAT'S THE THING ABOUT NOT HAVING A EVERY MONTH.

YEAH.

THAT IF YOU'RE EVERY MONTH YOU REMEMBER.

YEAH.

EVEN IF SOMEBODY HAD TAKE IT, YOU STILL HAVE FORM.

WHEREAS THERE EVERY THREE MONTH YOU GET BUSY.

I'LL STILL BE IN A FLU, COMA, BIOPSY, .

I SAW THEM WORKING ON THE, OKAY.

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