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ALL RIGHT, IF WE CAN, UH,[1. CALL TO ORDER]
ALL QUIET DOWN, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED AND TRY TO BE A LITTLE EXTRA ACCOMMODATING TONIGHT.WE'VE GOT A LOT OF, UH, FAMILY WITH KIDS HERE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, SO WE WILL TRY TO GET TO THAT JUST AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
UH, BEFORE WE PROCEED, I WOULD, UH, LIKE TO REQUEST THE INTERPRETER, TAKE A MOMENT TO EXPLAIN THE CITY'S INTERPRETATION SERVICE THAT WILL BE OFFERED FOR THIS EVENING'S COUNCIL MEETING.
THE FOLLOWING WILL BE AN ANNOUNCEMENT IN SPANISH.
AND IF I COULD PLEASE ASK EVERYONE TO SILENCE ALL THEIR CELL PHONES OR ANY OTHER DEVICES SO WE DON'T HAVE THEM GOING ALL OFF DURING, DURING THE MEETING.
WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER A LIVE WEBCAST OF THE MEETING MAY BE VIEWED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE.
IF YOU'RE WATCHING LIVE VIA ZOOM VIEWING, UH, THE SPANISH VERSION OF THE MEETING, INTERPRETER INSTRUCTIONS WILL APPEAR IN THE CHAT BOX AT THE BOTTOM OF YOUR SCREEN.
FOR THOSE WHO PREFER TO SIT IN THE CHAMBER, HEADSETS ARE AVAILABLE TO PROVIDE LIVE SPANISH TRANSLATION, PLEASE SEE THE CITY CLERK'S DESK OVER HERE TO CHECK OUT A HEADSET.
THE NOTICE AGENDA AND INFORMATION ON THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY'S WEBSITE INFORMS MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT THEY MAY SUBMIT A GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT OR A PUBLIC COMMENT ON A SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEM IN A NUMBER OF WAYS.
FIRST, IN PERSON BY SUBMITTING A, UH, ONE OF THESE SALMON COLORED SLIPS.
UM, SECOND IS BY VIA ZOOM, BY PRE-REGISTERING ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE, NO LATER THAN TWO HOURS BEFORE THE MEETING, OR BY EMAILING NO LATER THAN FOUR HOURS BEFORE THE MEETING.
ALL WRITTEN COMMENTS RECEIVED ARE DISTRIBUTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL PRIOR TO THE MEETING AND PUBLISHED ON THE CITY WEBSITE IF RECEIVED BY THE DEADLINE.
WITH THAT, IF WE COULD HAVE ROLL CALL PLEASE.
COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, YAMANI HERE.
COUNCIL MEMBER MOLINA PRESENT, VICE MAYOR BUSH.
IF WE, YOU PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
REMAIN STANDING FOR THE INVOCATION.
AND, UH, MEMBER MOLINA, WOULD YOU HAVE THIS, PLEASE? YES.
BEGIN ALLEGIANCE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR.
AND DO WE HAVE CHAPLAIN HERE TONIGHT? I DON'T, DON'T SEE ANYONE.
THE, UH, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF CHANGES TO THE, UH, AGENDA TONIGHT.
AND ONE WILL BE 11.2, WHICH WAS THE PUBLIC HEARING APPEAL ON A PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVAL OF A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR, FOR, UH, PROPOSED DRIVE THROUGH COFFEE SHOP, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS DUTCH BROTHERS OVER ON SWEETWATER ROAD.
UH, BOTH THE APPLICANT AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE REPEALING, UH, HAVE REQUESTED THAT BE PUT OFF TILL JANUARY THE 20TH.
SO WE'RE GONNA ACCOMMODATE THEM.
SO WE WILL NOT BE, BE HEARING 11.2 TONIGHT.
AND, UH, AND THERE'LL BE NO PUBLIC COMMENT HEARD ON THAT ITEM.
UM, THE, UH, THE OTHER, UH, THE OTHER ISSUE IS, I'M GONNA TAKE ONE AREA OUT OF ORDER, AND THAT IS, UM, STORM, OUR, DID YOU SAY DRUM ROLL? NO, I SAID STORMWATER.
[7.1 Presentation of 2026 Storm Water Calendar]
STORM WATER CALENDAR.WE ARE GONNA MOVE THAT UP BECAUSE I KNOW WE'RE KIND OF OVERCROWDED IN HERE RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE GONNA MOVE THAT UP TO RIGHT NOW, DO IT BEFORE PUBLIC COMMENT, AND THAT WAY, UH, WE CAN HELP, UH, I THINK FROM SOME OF YOU, UH, UH, SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE SOME HOMEWORK TO DO YET TONIGHT AND EVERYTHING, SO WE WANNA LET LET YOU GET, GET BACK TO THAT.
SO, UH, FOR THAT, FOR THAT REASON, WE'RE GONNA MOVE DIRECTLY IN, INTO THAT ITEM.
SO, WITH THAT, WHO IS, UH, WHO ON STAFF IS PRESENTING HERE ON THIS ONE? I'M, WE'RE, WE ARE.
UH, GOOD EVENING MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER, CITY STAFF, AND THOSE JOINING US TONIGHT.
I AM EVELYN MOLINA, EXECUTIVE SECRETARY FOR THE ENGINEERING AND PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.
I'M A LITTLE ELZA GONZALEZ, OPERATIONS
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MANAGER FOR OUR DEPARTMENT IS ASSISTING ME TONIGHT, I AM SO EXCITED TO BE BACK HERE TO PRESENT OUR ANNUAL STORM WATER CALENDAR ART CONTEST PROGRAM AND THE WINNERS FOR THIS YEAR'S 2026 CALENDAR.LAST YEAR, LOCAL THIRD GRADE ELEMENTARY STUDENTS PARTICIPATED IN THE CONTEST WITH THE THEME.
BY KEEPING OUR COMMUNITY CLEAN, WE CAN KEEP OUR CREEKS, BAY, AND OCEAN CLEAN.
THE PURPOSE OF THIS CONTEST IS TO PROMOTE AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT WHILE EDUCATING CHILDREN ON HOW TO PROTECT OUR WATERWAYS THROUGH ARTWORK, THE PARTICIPATING SCHOOLS AND CLASSROOMS ASKED STUDENTS TO SUBMIT ORIGINAL DRAWINGS TO OUR ENGINEERING AND PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, WHERE STAFF COMMITTEE REVIEWED AND CHOSE ARTWORK FROM 16 STUDENTS TO BE IN THE 2026 CALENDAR.
WE ARE HERE THIS EVENING TO RECOGNIZE THOSE WINNERS AND PRESENT THEM WITH CERTIFICATES OF PARTICIPATION AND A GIFT CARD FROM WALMART.
WE RECOGNIZE AND APPRECIATE EDCO FOR THEIR GENEROUS SPONSORSHIP AS THESE GIFT CARDS WERE PURCHASED WITH THEIR KIND DONATION.
I ALSO LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE AND THANK THE FOLLOWING PEOPLE FOR THEIR SUPPORT FROM THE NATIONAL SCHOOL DISTRICT, SUPERINTENDENT LINEA BRADY BOARD PRESIDENT, MS. ALO, BOARD MEMBERS, MS. CASTANEDA, MS. GATES, MS. LOPEZ, MS. ARMO, N MS. D STAFF MEMBERS CATHERINE ESE AND SARAH PANDO.
AND THANK YOU MS. HAYES WITH KIMBALL SCHOOL FOR THE SUPPORT.
WITH THE INTEGRATION OF THE CONTEST INTO THE THIRD GRADE CURRICULUM, WE ALSO APPRECIATE ALL THE SCHOOL PRINCIPALS AND ASSOCIATED STAFF AND TEACHERS.
WITHOUT THEIR SUPPORT, THIS WILL NOT BE POSSIBLE.
BEFORE WE GET TO THE WINNERS, A FEW NOTES TO BE AWARE OF.
CALENDARS WILL BE DISTRIBUTED TO THE SCHOOLS, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, ECHO, AND THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY, AND WILL BE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC THE FIRST WEEK OF JANUARY.
ALSO, SOME OF THE ARTWORK SUBMITTED FOR THE 2026 CALENDAR IN WHICH DID NOT MAKE IT INTO THE CALENDAR, WILL BE ON DISPLAY HERE AT CITY HALL FOR VISITORS TO ENJOY STARTING NEXT YEAR.
AS MAYOR MORRISON ANNOUNCES THE WINNERS, THE WINNING ARTWORK WILL BE DISPLAYED ON THE SCREENS.
PLEASE, STUDENTS COME UP AND SHAKE THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER'S HANDS, AND THEN WAIT TO TAKE A GROUP PICTURE ON HERE TO THE RIGHT.
MAYOR MORRISON, WOULD YOU PLEASE DO THE HONORS TO INTRODUCE AND AWARD THESE INCREDIBLE STUDENT HONOR, UH, STUDENT ARTISTS, EXCUSE ME, WHICH MAKE UP THE 2026 STORMWATER CALENDAR.
OH, AND PLEASE NOTE WE WILL BE HANDING OUT THE CALENDARS OUTSIDE AFTER THE PRESENTATION AS WELL.
BECAUSE WE'RE GIVING OUT CALENDARS TONIGHT, AND WE'RE ALSO GIVING THEM WALMART GIFT CERTIFICATES, RIGHT? YES, I HAVE THOSE.
I SORT TO SAY, 'CAUSE I KNEW I HADN'T, I HADN'T BEEN ENTRUSTED WITH THOSE ALREADY, SO I WAS JUST WANTING TO MAKE SURE WE HAD THOSE HERE.
WE HAVE, OKAY, WE GOT 'EM HERE.
YOU WANT ME, YOU WANT ME IN THAT ORDER? YES, PLEASE.
HOPEFULLY, I THINK I GOT 'EM IN THAT ORDER.
WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA CALL YOU UP ONE AT A TIME AND WHAT, WHAT, WHAT YOU DO IS COME UP AND GET YOURS.
IF YOU WANT TO GO ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PODIUM, FACE THAT WAY.
SO YOUR PARENTS, IF THEY WANNA TAKE A PICTURE OF JUST YOU BY YOURSELF, BUT THEN WE'RE GONNA END UP WITH YOU ALL ACROSS HERE AS, AS A GROUP AT THE END.
SO AS, SO AS I SAY, SO, YOU'RE GONNA WANNA GO ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PODIUM BECAUSE A GOOD NUMBER OF YOU, IF YOU'RE STANDING ON THIS SIDE OF THE PODIUM, NO ONE'S GONNA SEE YOU OVER THERE.
OKAY? SO WE'RE GONNA GET YOU ON THAT SIDE OF THE PODIUM, SO, SO YOU CAN BE GOOD FOR THE CAMERA.
SO, FIRST OF ALL, THIS IS FOR THE COVER AND, UH, THAT WE HAVE ON THAT ONE RIGHT THERE.
AND, UH, UH, MATTER OF FACT, I'M GONNA HAVE YOU HOLD THAT UP FOR EACH ONE OF THE PA OH, THEY GOT 'EM UP THERE.
SO OUR FIRST ONE IS FROM EL TOON.
WE HAVE BEBE HERE, THERE, SHE'S AND WALMART.
YOU WANNA SHAKE? TAKE WHAT? EVERYONE'S HAND.
SO YOU CAN HAVE INDIVIDUAL PICTURE TAKEN.
NEXT, NEXT WE HAVE FROM CENTRAL ELEMENTARY, WE HAVE, UH, ALEJANDRA.
SO, RIGHT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PODIUM, AFTER YOU, AFTER YOU SHAKE EVERYONE'S HAND.
AND NOW FROM PALMER WAY, WE HAVE CHLOE THERE.
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YOU WANT THE WALMART ONE TOO, DON'T YOU?UH, SHE'S NOT OLD, OLD ENOUGH TO VOTE.
AND FROM RANCHO DEONE, WE HAVE, I BELIEVE IT'S GISELLE.
UH, ELLE, YOU WANNA GO UP, UP THE FRONT TO GET YOUR PICTURE TAKEN.
AND FROM KIMBALL ELEMENTARY, WE HAVE BROOKE.
AND FROM JOHN OTIS, WE HAVE MIRIAM.
I COULD TELL SHE WAS GETTING READY TO TAKE OFF.
I I COULD JUST, I COULD JUST, I COULD SEE THAT HAPPENING.
NOW, UM, NOW WE GO TO EL TOON AND WE HAVE VICTORIA NOT HERE.
OKAY, WE'LL GET THAT TO VICTORIA.
EITHER THAT OR I'LL HAVE A FUN TRIP TO WALMART, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
NOW,
OKAY, NEXT FROM ELTO Y WE HAVE LANDON.
SPORTING A TIE AND EVERYTHING.
FROM OLIVE WOOD, WE HAVE POLA.
MORE ABOUT THIS, RIGHT? VICTORIA.
VICTORIA, YOU STAND RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE PODIUM HERE.
OKAY, NOW GO OVER AND JOIN THE REST OVER HERE.
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AND FROM EL, WE HAVE DAVID.ALRIGHT, NEXT FROM RANCHO
SOME CONFIDENCE THERE, I'LL TELL YOU.
NEXT FROM EL TOON, WE HAVE MIA.
YOU DON'T WANNA FORGET ABOUT WALMART.
AND, UH, WAIT, YOU'RE GOING TAKE A PICTURE UP HERE.
NEXT FROM OLIVE WOOD, WE HAVE NANCY.
THERE YOU, YOUR PAPERS WITH THAT.
AND THEN FROM KIMBALL, WE HAVE HECTOR.
UH, AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, FROM KIMBALL, WE HAVE CAMILA.
OKAY, NOW WE CAN HAVE ALL OF YOU STANDING IN FRONT OF THE PODIUM FACING THAT WAY.
AND, AND YOU STAND IN ONE LONG LINE.
AND YOU TWO NEED TO BE ON, ON, ON THE ENDS.
WAIT, WHERE YOU GOING? NO, NO, NO.
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HERE.AND, UH, FOR FAMILY MEMBERS, UH, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE CALENDARS FOR YOU OUT IN THE LOBBY SO YOU CAN GET AUTOGRAPHS.
AND, UH, KIDS WILL BE THERE TO AUTOGRAPH IT.
AND THIS, NOW REALIZING THERE ARE 10 ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS IN OUR, UH, NATIONAL SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND THERE'S NOT A CONTEST OR ANYTHING.
SO YOU IMAGINE THERE OUGHT TO BE ABOUT 1.3 PER SCHOOL, BUT IT JUST HAPPENS.
KIMBALL ELEMENTARY HAS FOUR, BUT WAIT.
SO THEY, I'M SORRY, NOT A CONTEST.
UH, PARENTS, GRANDPARENTS, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THESE ARE YOUR WINNERS FOR THIS YEAR.
WE WE'RE GOING GIVE 'EM A FEW MORE.
WELL GIMME JUST A COUPLE MOMENTS TO GET IT CLEAR ON OUT THEN.
OH, THE NUMBER OF THAT'S GOOD.
LOUISA THIS TIME SHE WASN'T HERE FOR THE CLOSE SESSION EITHER MIKA, UNLESS SHE'S DOING AN ANONYMOUS NAME AND I HAVEN'T SEEN HER THOUGH.
WELL, WE SEE THEIR LITTLE, UH, OH, NO, THERE'S, THERE'S, UH, KIM.
MIKA'S BACK THERE WITH ALICIA MORRISON.
SO, YEAH, WE'RE THERE, BUT YEAH.
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IF WE CAN GET EVERYONE'S ATTENTION, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND START WITH THE MEETING.
YOU OKAY? DENNIS, YOU NEED A CONTRACT WITH ME? HUH? YOU NEED A CONTRACT? I HAVE.
[5. PUBLIC COMMENT]
PUBLIC COMMENT NOW.PUBLIC COMMENT IS ON ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA.
AND, UH, WE, THEY WILL BE LIMITED TO, UH, TWO MINUTES PER SPEAKER.
I WILL CALL THREE PEOPLE AT A TIME.
WHEN YOU HEAR YOUR NAME CALLED FIRST PERSON'S UP TO THE MIC, THE OTHER TWO GO INTO THE AISLE HERE SO THAT THE MOMENT THAT PERSON'S DONE, THAT YOU CAN COME UP AND IT SAVES A LOT OF TIME.
SO WITH THAT, WE WILL GO WITH, UH, UH, JESSE NAVARRO, JAMES KIM AND WENDY EGAN.
UH, HONORABLE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, CITY STAFF, CITY MANAGER.
MY NAME IS JESSE NAVARRO, AND, UH, I COME TO YOU ONCE AGAIN, UH, WITH A SET NOTE.
I BECAME AWARE RECENTLY THAT THERE WERE ONCE AGAIN FALSE ALLEGATIONS AGAINST, UH, SOMEBODY HERE AT, AT THE NATIONAL CITY, UH, ADMINISTRATION.
AND THIS CASE HAPPENS TO BE MR. MAYOR, YOUR EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT, JOSIE CLARK.
THERE WERE SOME ALLEGATIONS THAT SHE WAS STEALING MONEY FROM THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY HISPANIC CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
AND LEMME TELL YOU ONCE AGAIN, THOSE ALLEGATIONS ARE
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ABSOLUTELY, TOTALLY AND CONFIRMED FALSE.THE SAME LADIES THAT MADE FALSE ALLEGATIONS AGAINST YOU AND OTHER MEMBERS OF, UH, NATIONAL CITY, ARE NOW MAKING FALSE ALLEGATIONS.
THE EGAL COUNTY HISPANIC CHAMBER OF COMMERCE IS SOMETHING THAT I WAS THE FOUNDER AND I'M STILL ON THE BOARD.
AND THOSE ALLEGATIONS ARE FALSE ABOUT YOUR EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT TAKING MONEY.
I RECRUITED MS. CLARK TO BE PART OF THE BOARD AND TO HELP ME RUN THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY HISPANIC CHAMBER.
SHE'S, HER REPUTATION IS ABSOLUTELY CREDIBLE, HONEST, AND THERE'S GOTTA BE SOME CONSEQUENCES, MR. CITY ATTORNEY, IN REGARDS TO PEOPLE THAT CONTINUE MAKING FALSE ALLEGATIONS, NOT ONLY AGAINST MS. CLARK, BUT AGAINST ANYBODY WITHOUT ANY BASIS.
I ASK YOU TO CONSIDER ANY CONSEQUENCES ON THAT, ANY LEGAL CONSEQUENCES.
AND I THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO LISTEN AND PLEASE GIVE YOUR LOVE AND SUPPORT TO MS. JOSIE CLARK, WHO'S DEDICATED HER TIME NOT ONLY TO SERVE THE MAYOR, BUT SERVE THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY.
THANK YOU AND HAVE A GOOD EVENING.
UH, JAMES KIM, FOLLOWED BY WENDY EGAN, FOLLOWED BY DELISE VAUGHN.
I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S VAUGHN OR VAN.
I DIDN'T MISPRONOUNCE YOUR NAME.
HOW YOU GUYS DOING? HAPPY HOLIDAYS.
JUST GIVING YOU GUYS AN UPDATE ON OUR PROJECT WITH THE MURAL THAT WE HAD ON, UH, WILSON, UH, 20, UH, 1726 WILSON AND 18TH STREET.
WE HAD A LOT OF GREAT REVIEWS ON THAT MURAL.
I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU COUNCIL MEMBERS.
YOU GUYS CAME IN, YOU ALL SHINED UP TO MAKE IT HAPPEN FROM JOSE DITAS, MAYOR MARCUS LU.
YOU GUYS ALL COLLABORATE TOGETHER TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.
I'D LIKE TO TAKE, YOU KNOW, AN OPPORTUNITY TO THANK, UH, CHIEF ALL, UH, ALEX, THE CHIEF FIRE POLICE CHIEF OVER HERE FOR, FOR APPROVING THE EQUIPMENT TO USE FOR THAT MURAL.
AND ALSO GUYS, I REALLY WANT TO THANK THE STAFF FROM, FROM, FROM PUBLIC WORKS TO, TO PARKS FROM, UH, ENGINEERING, EVERYBODY COLLABORATED TO ONCE TO MAKE THIS THING HAPPEN.
AND MIKE, GOING ON MY 20TH YEAR HERE IN THE CITY, YOU KNOW, AT THE GRAFFITI SENIOR GRAFFITI TECHNICIAN HERE.
I, I NEVER, UH, I NEVER EXPERIENCED ALL DEPARTMENTS WORKING AS ONE TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.
I WAS ABLE TO WORK WITH A LOT OF, WITH WITH STEVE MENO, WITH MARTHA, UM, WITH A BUNCH OF OTHERS AT, AT OUT THERE, EMILY, DANIEL, EVERYBODY COLLABORATED, NOT JUST IN ALL, IT'S JUST ONE SECTION, BUT EVERYBODY DID.
I JUST WANNA THANK YOU GUYS FOR THAT, MAKING IT HAPPEN.
AND UM, GUYS, WE HAVE A LOT MORE GREAT PROJECTS UP AND COMING.
DEFINITELY, UNFORTUNATELY, EIGHT YEARS AGO, MY BUDGET GOT CUT IN HALF FOR GRAFFITI.
UH, THERE'S MORE I WANT TO DO OUT THERE.
THERE'S MORE THINGS THAT WE COULD DO TO, TO BEAUTIFY OUR COMMUNITY, BUT I JUST HAVE LACK OF RESOURCES AND FUNDS FOR ME TO DO THAT.
SO I'M ASKING FOR COUNCIL AND MAYOR TO DOUBLE CHECK WHAT WE COULD DO TO MAKE THAT THING HAPPEN AND, AND BE ABLE TO WORK THESE YOUNG ARTISTS THAT WE JUST SEEN TODAY.
HOW ABOUT THAT? HOW ABOUT ALL THOSE BEAUTIFUL ART THAT WE SEE A YOUNG AGE DOING THAT THOSE ARE THE ONES I'M AFTER TO MAKE, TO, TO DO MULES IN MY COMMUNITY.
THOSE KIDS RIGHT THERE ARE THE ONES THAT WE'RE WORKING FOR AND THAT'S WHY I WANNA DO MORE OF THAT.
IF YOU TAKE, TAKE PRIDE IN OUR COMMUNITY TO BEAUTIFY OUR COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT AND TO, UH, PUSH FORWARD AND, UH, FOR BETTER THINGS IN IN OUR CITY.
UH, WENDY EGAN, FOLLOWED BY, UH, DELISE V TO BE FOLLOWED BY ALICIA MORRISON.
GOOD EVENING MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER, STAFF AND STAFF AND EVERYBODY HERE.
I'M GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE SOME EXCITING NEWS.
OUR ORGANIZATION RECENTLY RECEIVED A GRANT FROM THE FOUNDATION FOR DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES.
UM, THIS MEANS THAT FOR THE FIRST TIME, WE NOW HAVE A DEDICATED FUNDING COMING INTO A NATIONAL CITY, SPECIFICALLY TO SUPPORT OUR CHILDREN AND FAMILIES WITH SPECIAL NEEDS.
IT'S AN IMPORTANT MILESTONE FOR INCLUSION IN OUR CITY, AND I WANTED TO ENSURE YOU ALL WERE AWARE OF THESE NEW RESOURCES NOW AVAILABLE FOR OUR RESIDENTS.
I'M ALSO HERE TONIGHT TO FOLLOW UP ON AN APPLICATION I SUBMITTED REQUESTING A USE OF INDOOR BASKETBALL FACILITY.
INCLUSIVE KIDS NETWORK HAS A COACH WITH AN ESTABLISHED ADULT SPECIAL NEEDS BASKETBALL TEAM.
AND THE SAME COACH IS, IS READY TO LEAD OUR NEW CHILDREN'S TEAM.
OUR GOAL IS TO PREPARE OUR ATHLETES FOR OUR ANNUAL EXCEPTIONAL ATHLETES TOURNAMENTS THAT SAN DIEGO HAS EVERY YEAR.
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UM, AND, UM, I WOULD LOVE NATIONAL CITY TO HOST A TOURNAMENT ONE YEAR.I THINK THAT WOULD BRING SO MUCH LIGHT TO NATIONAL CITY.
UM, BEYOND BASKETBALL, WE'RE ALSO WORKING TO SECURE A CONSISTENT FACILITY FOR OUR SENSORY ART AND PLAY AND SENSORY FITNESS PLAY PROGRAMS AND OTHER PROGRAMS. WE ARE STILL IN NEED OF A FACILITY USE.
THE ARTS TEAM HAS BEEN LETTING US, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE BEEN SHARING THE SPACE.
UM, BUT WE DO WANNA SECURE SOME SPACE, YOU KNOW, SOME CITY SPACE AND, AND THAT'S WHY I'M HERE.
UM, OUR WORK IS ALREADY HAPPENING.
THE FAMILIES ARE HERE, THE NEED IS HERE.
WHAT WE ARE MISSING IS A RELIABLE ACCESS SPACE FOR OUR KIDS.
SO TONIGHT I RESPECTFUL, I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND HELPING US SECURE A LOCATION THAT WILL ALLOW US TO TAKE, TO KEEP EXPANDING YOUR, EXPANDING THESE OPPORTUNITIES FOR NATIONAL CITY.
EL ON, UH, ALICIA MORRISON, FOLLOWED BY LARRY EMERSON.
UM, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME TONIGHT.
I'M A GRADUATE OF DEPAUL UNIVERSITY AND COLUMBIA COLLEGE.
I SPENT THE LAST 20 YEARS WORKING ON MY EDUCATION IN CHICAGO.
I'VE RETURNED TO NASHVILLE CITY TO TAKE CARE OF MY MOTHER.
UH, I ATTENDED SCHOOL WITH MS. MAYOR MORRISON'S CHILDREN, AND I WENT TO GRANGER WITH VICE MAYOR BUSH.
NOVEMBER 4TH WAS MY FIRST COUNCIL MEETING.
AND I'M SAD TO SAY THAT I'M NOT IMPRESSED BY THE DISPLAY OF HYPOCRISY OF THE SPEAKERS AND DEFAMATION OF CHARACTER OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE SHOWN ME NOTHING BUT KINDNESS.
IF YOUR TRUE DESIRE IS TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY THE NEXT TIME AFTER PROACTIVE SOLUTIONS AND NOT GOSSIP AND HEARSAY COMMUNITY IS ABOUT PATIENCE, COMPASSION, AND UNDERSTANDING.
REMEMBER TO NOT JUDGE THIS E BE JUDGED.
NATIONAL CITY HAS NO PLACE FOR BULLYING.
WHO ARE YOU TO NATIONAL CITY AND WHAT IS YOUR TRUE AGENDA TO BE SUPPORTIVE OR DESTRUCTIVE? THANK YOU.
THANK YOU ALICIA MORRISON, FOLLOWED BY LARRY EMERSON, FOLLOWED BY DANIEL KAY.
WHAT CALIFORNIA LEGISLATURE HAS ADOPTED IS THE NEED FOR MORE HOUSING.
I AM REQUESTING THIS COUNCIL CHANGE THE ZONING AT SWEETWATER AND ORANGE STREET BACK TO RS TWO, LOW MEDIUM DENSITY.
NO ONE HAS THE RIGHT TO ANY PARTICULAR LEVEL OF PROFITEERING BASED ON ZONING.
THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT PROPERTY OWNERS AND DEVELOPERS HAD PLANNED TO DO.
MY UNDERSTANDING THAT LEASE IS NOT DEAD ZONING IS FOR THE BENEFIT OF COMMUNITY ALONE AND PRESERVES THE RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER OF COMMUNITY, THOSE LOTS, BUT RIGHT UP AGAINST TO AN EXISTING RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY.
YOU DON'T NEED ANY MORE DRIVE-THROUGHS, NO MORE GAS STATIONS, NO MORE CONVENIENCE STORES, NO MORE VACANT RETAIL SHELLS BEING USED AS ILLEGAL STORAGE OR SITTING EMPTY.
SO AGAIN, I'M ASKING YOU TO PLEASE RESTORE THE ZONING BACK TO RS TWO.
OKAY, THAT'S LARRY EMERSON, FOLLOWED BY DANIEL K, FOLLOWED BY MPV.
AND GOOD EVENING, UH, MAYOR MORRISON AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
THANK YOU FOR ALL THOSE FRIENDLY HANDSHAKES FOR THE KIDS.
I THINK THEY'RE GONNA REMEMBERING THAT EVENT FOR A LONG TIME.
UM, I'M HERE TO, UH, REMIND EVERYBODY THAT THERE IS A NEW PROGRAM WHERE YOU CAN SAVE YOUR ENERGY COSTS IN NATIONAL CITY AND SAN DIEGO COUNTY.
I, I, A COUPLE WEEKS AGO I CAME IN AND TALKED BRIEFLY ABOUT THE SOLAR BATTERY SAVINGS PROGRAM AND, UH, NASH, IT WAS GANGBUSTER PRO PROGRAM LAST YEAR, BUT NATIONAL CITY AT RESIDENTS DIDN'T TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT.
SO WE REALLY WANT TO GET THE WORD OUT.
AND THERE'S GONNA BE SOME WORK WORKSHOPS IN THE COMMUNITY COMING UP.
IT'LL BE ON THE WEBSITE, SD COMMUNITY POWER.ORG, AND WE REALLY WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT.
SO, UM, A LITTLE BIT OF THE INFORMATION.
THE SOLAR BATTERY SAVINGS PROGRAM PROVIDES UPFRONT REBATES AND ONGOING PERFORMANCE INCENTIVES FOR RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS WHO INSTALL NEW SOLAR PLUS STORAGE OR ADD BATTERIES THROUGH THEIR EXISTING SOLAR SETUP.
FOR EXAMPLE, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE LOWER UPFRONT COST THROUGH INSTALLATION REBATES.
THEIR BILLS WILL BE, WILL BE LESS WILL SAVED BY USING THE STORED ENERGY AND THE BATTERIES DURING THE PEAK TIMES.
AND THEY WILL ALSO HAVE A BACKUP POWER IN CASE THE
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POWER GOES OUT.IN ADDITION, THERE'LL BE A PERFORMANCE PAYMENT.
THE EXCESS ENERGY YOU HAVE IN THE BATTERIES, WHEN YOU PUT IT BACK BETWEEN FOUR AND 9:00 PM YOU'LL GET 10 CENTS PER KILOWATT HOUR BACK.
SO IT'S A WIN-WIN FOR THE GRID.
SHARE ENERGY WITH EVERYBODY AND IT'S GOOD FOR THE RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS.
SO, UH, I I BROUGHT ONE OF THESE LAST TIME.
I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY GOT ONE ON THE COUNCIL.
SHOULD I GIVE ANOTHER ONE? SURE.
AND, UH, NEXT YEAR WE'LL BE BACK AND THERE'S GONNA BE SOME WORK WORKSHOPS AND WE SHOULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THOSE.
UH, DANIEL KAY, FOLLOWED BY MPV, FOLLOWED BY TED GOTCH.
MAYOR, I'M JUST HERE TO ASK YOU TO ONCE AGAIN DISCLOSE THE, THE, UH, PHONE RECORDS YOU HAVE RELATING TO THE INFAMOUS PROJECT AT SWEETWATER ROAD AND ORANGE STREET.
AS YOU ARE NO DOUBT AWARE, AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR, THE CITY TURNED OVER RECORDS RELATING TO THAT PROJECT, AND IN IT WE DISCOVERED THAT YOU AND YOUR ASSISTANT HAD MET WITH CERTAIN DEVELOPERS AND LONGTIME DONORS ABOUT THAT PROJECT.
NOW, THE PROJECT WAS SO UNPOPULAR THAT IT CAUSED EVERYONE LIVING NEARBY TO PROTEST IT.
UNFORTUNATELY, WHEN A CONCERNED CITIZEN TRIED TO GET YOUR PHONE RECORDS LINK TO THE PROJECT, THOSE RECORDS WERE MISSING.
AND, AND THAT CITIZEN HAD TO FILE A LAWSUIT TO TRY TO GET THOSE RECORDS.
NOW, YOU WERE ASKED TO TESTIFY UNDER OATH.
WHAT HAPPENED TO THOSE RECORDS? YOU SAID, YOU SAID THAT THE IT DEPARTMENT HAD THOSE RECORDS ALL ALONG AND THAT YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO TURN ANYTHING OVER.
AND THE IT DEPARTMENT, WHEN THEY TESTIFIED, SAID THAT WAS COMPLETELY UNTRUE.
NOW, I DO WANNA GIVE CREDIT TO YOU WHERE CREDIT IS DUE.
YOU DID SIGN YOUR SWORN STATEMENT, UH, OF YOUR TESTIMONY IN THAT CASE, THAT IS A GOOD THING.
OF COURSE, IT TOOK NEARLY SEVEN MONTHS, BUT AT LEAST YOU SIGNED IT.
YOU SIGNED IT A WEEK AGO, ACTUALLY.
SO THEREFORE, I DO WANNA COMMEND THE MAYOR FOR STICKING BY YOUR COVER STORY.
NO ONE BELIEVES IT, BUT THAT'S NOT THE POINT.
THE POINT IS SIMPLY THIS, WE CAUGHT YOUR HAND IN THE COOKIE JAR AND IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE DOUBLING DOWN.
WHY? WHY, WHY WE EVEN DO THAT AT ALL? WHY NOT JUST TURN OVER THE RECORDS? WE COULD BE DONE IN A HEARTBEAT.
WE COULD DISPENSE WITH THIS IMMEDIATELY.
WE KNOW THAT THE PHONE RECORDS EXIST.
ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS TURN THEM OVER.
WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE THIS CONTROVERSY COME BACK WEEK AFTER WEEK.
WE HAVE MPV TED SHOCK AND THEN PAUL WADOWSKI.
YOU WERE SHOWING OFF YOUR 33 YEARS IN OFFICE, AND YET YOU HAVE NOTHING TO SHOW FOR IT, BUT CORRUPTION AND A HOSTILE WORK ENVIRONMENT.
YOU ARE FACING FIVE LAWSUITS IN SAN DIEGO SUPERIOR COURT.
THERE ARE THREE LAWSUITS FOR PUBLIC RECORDS.
YOU HAVE FAILED TO PRODUCE OR HAVE DESTROYED ONE LAWSUIT VIOLATING THE OPEN MEETING LAW AND ONE LAWSUIT FOR A DECLARATORY JUDGMENT THAT THE CITY COUNCIL CAN RESTORE THE NEIGHBORHOOD AT ORANGE STREET AND SWEETWATER ROAD TO RESIDENTIAL AND LOW TO MODERATE DENSITY.
YOU HAVE THE POWER TO END THE LITIGATION BY RELEASING THE REQUESTED PUBLIC RECORDS AND AGREEING THAT YOU HAVE THE POWER TO RESTORE THE LAND AT ORANGE STREET AND SWEETWATER ROAD TO RESIDENTIAL AND LOAD TO MODERATE DENSITY.
YOU COMPLAIN THAT WE HAVE FILED TOO MANY PUBLIC RECORDS, BUT THAT IS BECAUSE EVERY TIME WE ASK FOR A PUBLIC RECORD THAT SHOULD BE READILY AVAILABLE, YOU DEMAND THAT WE FILE A WRITTEN PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST.
THERE HAVE BEEN 893 PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST FILED IN NATIONAL CITY THIS YEAR.
OUR REQUESTS ARE A TINY FRACTION OF THOSE.
WE ARE NOT THE ONLY VICTIMS OF YOUR VIOLATIONS OF THE PUBLIC RECORDS LAW.
THE ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH COALITION HAD TO SUE YOU TO OBTAIN FUEL PROJECT RECORDS.
WE HEAR THE SAME REFRAIN FROM OTHER CITIZENS.
NATIONAL CITY REFUSES TO HONOR THE PUBLIC RECORDS LAW.
WHAT THE PUBLIC MUST COME TO UNDERSTAND IS THAT YOUR REFUSAL TO TURN OVER THE PUBLIC RECORDS IS REALLY A PART OF A CONTINUING COVERUP OF YOUR MISDEEDS.
THIS APPLIES TO THE TEXT MESSAGES.
REMEMBER RON, YOU TESTIFIED FALSELY THAT YOU DID NOT TURN OVER THE TEXT MESSAGES ON YOUR PHONE BECAUSE YOU
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TOLD IT DEPARTMENT.YET THIS TESTIMONY WAS IMMEDIATELY SHOWN TO BE FALSE BY THE IT DEPARTMENT.
PLEASE RESIGN THIS POST AND GIVE IT TO SOMEBODY THAT ACTUALLY CARES ABOUT THE CITY.
THEY ARE TRYING TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY.
THEY'RE ASKING US TO ZONE, ZONE, AND THEY HAVE OFFERED TO DROP THOSE PRA LAWSUITS IF WE DO THAT.
AND NO, I'M NOT GONNA DO THAT.
NEXT WE HAVE TED GODSHAW, FOLLOWED BY, UH, PAUL WADOWSKI, FOLLOWED BY ALEJANDRO, UH, ALEJANDRO DIAZ.
TED GODSHAW HERE, UH, TONIGHT I WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME YOU IN JOINING THE VANGUARD OF THE COMMUNITY CONCERNED MEMBERS WHO HAVE WORKED SO LONG TO PROTECT AND IMPROVE THE ENVIRONMENT AND QUALITY OF LIFE HERE IN NATIONAL CITY.
I'M SPEAKING OF YOUR SUPPORT TO DENY THE DEVELOPMENT OF USD FUELS.
WELCOME TO THE VANGUARD AND THANK YOU TONIGHT.
I'M ALSO HERE TO REPORT ON OUR ACTIVITIES THIS YEAR AT PARADISE CREEK EDUCATIONAL PARK.
WE'VE HELD OUR NONPROFIT GROUP HAS LED OVER, HAS LED 10 MONTHLY CREEK DAYS WITH OVER 120 VOLUNTEERS.
WE HAVE PLANTED MANY NATIVE PLANTS, PULLED THOUSANDS OF WEEDS, AND PICKED UP BAGS AND BAGS AND BAGS AND BAGS OF TRASH.
WE VERY MUCH ENJOY OUR COLLABORATION WITH THE FAMILY GARDEN AND MUNDO GARDENS, AND WE HAVE SUPPORTED STUDENT VISITS SEVERAL TIMES.
I HAVE A CONTACT SHEET OF PHOTOS TONIGHT, WHICH SHOW QUITE A FEW ISSUES OR 20 PHOTOS ON HERE.
ONE OF THEM IS GRAFFITI COVERED UP.
THESE ISSUES MUST BE ADDRESSED BY YOUR STAFF.
I WILL GIVE THIS SHEET TO THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.
IT IT OVER TO CITY, CITY CLERK.
WELL, I'M, I'M GONNA GIVE IT TO THEM.
NO, GIVE IT TO CITY CLERK BECAUSE IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT FOR HER
AND IF IT'S A DOCUMENT AND CITY COUNCIL, IT GOES TO THE CITY CLERK.
WELL, YOU'RE GIVING INSTRUCTIONS.
YOU DON'T HAVE AUTHORITY TO GOD.
ISSUES ON THIS LIST INCLUDE DEAD TREES, DUMPING AND GRAFFITI.
AND THIS WEEK, SOMETHING NEW CAME UP.
WE SAW THAT SOMEONE RODE MOTORCYCLE THROUGH THE HABITAT.
SO NEAR THE KIMBALL SCHOOL FENCE IN THE SALT PAN, WE CALL IT NEAR THE BOARDWALK.
THIS IS NEW AND IT REQUIRES POLICE ACTIVITY, NOT PUBLIC WORKS ACTIVITY.
WE USUALLY SEE BICYCLE TRACKS IN THIS AREA.
THIS WAS MOTORCYCLES AND IT WASN'T JUST IN THAT ONE AREA OF THE HABITAT.
AND JOIN US ON THE LAST SATURDAY OF THE MONTH.
PAUL WADOWSKI, FOLLOWED BY ALEJANDRA DIAZ.
UM, I, DUDE, I GOT A, I FINALLY GOT A CHANCE TO, UH, CATCH LAST, LAST, UH, MEETING AND THE WHOLE TURKEY OF THE YEAR THEATRICS.
AND, AND I SHARED MY FEELINGS ABOUT IT WITH A COUPLE OF THE ACE FOLKS THAT I KNOW.
UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, THE LA VISTA AWFUL.
UH, THEY PICKED IT UP AND THEY MADE MORE DUMB WITH IT, UH, WHICH WAS GREAT.
I'M SURE RODRIGUEZ LOVED IT, MAN.
'CAUSE YOU KNOW, INDIRECTLY THEY'RE CAMPAIGNING FOR HIM.
UH, THIS BLOOD SUCKING PAIR OF LANDLORDS HAS BEEN SUING THE CITY FOR A YEAR.
AND, YOU KNOW, REALLY ONLY BECAUSE THEY ACHE TO DO MORE LANDLORDING.
AND, AND JUST ALSO BY THE WAY, I, I, I CAUGHT THE, THE VERY END OF MCCARTHY'S, UM, PUBLIC COMMENT.
AND IF YOU WERE IN THE ROOM WHEN SHE WAS WRAPPING UP AND YOU WEREN'T DISGUSTED AND ANGERED, THEN YOU'RE AS BIG A SCUMBAG AS SHE IS, QUITE FRANKLY.
UM, AND SO LOCAL ACE IS COOL WITH, WITH THESE CLOWNS, LIKE CO-OPTING THEIR TURKEY NONSENSE TO FORWARD THEIR TERRIBLE OWNING CLASS PROJECT.
AND SO, LASTLY, THIS SHOULD BE A RED FLAG FOR NC VOTERS, UH, ECHOING A FRIEND'S MESSAGE OF CAUTION FROM LAST NIGHT.
YOU NEED TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT VALIDATING ENDORSEMENTS AS WE HEAD INTO THE ELECTION SEASON.
ACE EHC REPRESENT THEMSELVES AS PROGRESSIVE PEOPLE FIRST ORGS.
BUT THIS CANNOT BE TRUE IF THEY ENDORSE COMPROMISED DEMOCRATS IN NOVEMBER.
SO, SO PAY ATTENTION, SO MUCH CORRUPTION IN SD COUNTY DEM POLITICS.
PAY ATTENTION TO WHERE THE MONEY COMES FROM AND WHAT THE MONEY WANTS.
ALEJANDRA DIAZ, EDWARD NIETO, RANDY CASTLE, SALGADO.
MY NAME IS ALEJANDRA DIAZ AND I AM A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF NATIONAL CITY.
TODAY, I AM HERE TO ADDRESS THE CONCERN THAT SOME OF US RESIDENTS AT THE NATIONAL CITY PARK APARTMENTS HAVE COME ACROSS IN SEPTEMBER OF THIS YEAR.
ON SEPTEMBER 5TH, SOME OF US TENANTS RECEIVED AN EMAIL SAYING
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THAT AT THE CONSTRUCTION SITE AT THE CORNER OF 24TH AND F THERE WAS AN ACCIDENT THAT HIT THE, THE GAS LINE THAT WAS SHUT OFF.INITIALLY, WE WERE TOLD IT WAS GONNA TAKE A WEEKEND TO BE FIXED.
IT HAS NOT BEEN FIXED TO THIS DAY.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? IT MEANS THAT WE HAVE NOT HAD ACCESS TO HOT WATER.
WE HAVE NOT HAD ACCESS TO NOW THE HEATER.
NOW THAT IT'S COLD, WE DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO OUR STOVES AND WE DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO OUR WASHER AND DRYER.
IN ALL FAIRNESS, FOR THE FIRST TWO MONTHS, WE WERE GIVEN A CREDIT TO NOT PAY ANY RENT.
BUT IN OCTOBER, WHICH IS LAST MONTH, WE RECEIVED AN EMAIL THAT THEY WERE GOING TO BRING IN SOME, UH, SOME TEMPORARY, UM, UH, GAS HEATERS, WHICH WOULD GIVE US HOT WATER.
THERE'S HA IT'S NOT HOT WATER, UNFORTUNATELY.
AND WE RECEIVED AN EMAIL MAYBE ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO SAYING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO PICK UP ON CHARGING US 75% OF RENT FOR THEM GIVING US THEIR BARE MINIMUM.
WE, AGAIN, WE HAD THANKSGIVING LAST WEEK.
WE WERE NOT ABLE TO USE OUR OVENS.
I HAD TO GO TO MY SISTER-IN-LAW'S HOUSE TO COOK OUR THANKSGIVING DINNER BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T COURTEOUS TO EVEN TELL US THAT THIS HAD NOT BEEN FIXED.
CAME OCTOBER, THEY SAID IT'S GOING TO BE FIXED IN NOVEMBER.
THEY SAID IT WAS GOING TO BE FIXED IN DECEMBER.
BUT NOW WE'RE HEARING THAT SOME OF THE MAINTENANCE MEMBER, UH, MAINTENANCE TEAM ARE TELLING OTHER TENANTS THAT IT MAY OR MAY NOT BE FIXED UNTIL THE BE, UH, MID-JANUARY.
SO WE HAVE COMPLAINED TO MANAGEMENT, AND THIS IS HEARSAY, BUT A NEIGHBOR GOT THE ANSWER IS THE ANSWER THAT HE GOT WAS, WELL, IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, YOU CAN ALWAYS GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.
I URGE YOU TODAY TO CONSIDER AN INVESTIGATION AGAINST THIS CORPORATION BECAUSE WE FEEL THAT IT IS AN INJUSTICE THAT HERE THEY ARE WANTING TO CHARGE US RENT FOR THEM JUST GIVING US THE BARE MINIMUM.
WE EXPECT TO EXPERIENCE THIS AGAIN DURING CHRISTMAS, PERHAPS NEW YEAR FOR WHICH WE THINK IT'S NOT FAIR.
JUST REAL QUICKLY, UH, I DID RECEIVE A CALL TODAY FROM REPRESENTATIVE OF THE BUILDING TRADES, OR NOT ACTUALLY A TEXT WANTING TO TALK TO ME, JUST WASN'T ABLE TO GET BACK TO HIM TODAY.
I WILL MAKE SURE I CALLED HIM IN THE MORNING.
HE, HE SAID, HE JUST GAVE ME A TEXT THAT YOU WANTED TO GIVE ME AN UPDATE.
AND, UH, YOU GOT YOUR EMAIL ON HERE.
WE'LL, WE'LL GET A RESPONSE BACK TO YOU AND, UH, SEE WHAT WE CAN FIND OUT.
UH, EDWARD NETTO, FOLLOWED BY RANDY CASTLE STO FOLLOWED BY SHERRY GOGI.
NOW THAT'S A GOOD NATIONAL CITY GOVERNMENT STORY THAT NEEDS TO BE FOLLOWED UP ON AND PEOPLE SMILE ABOUT IT.
LET ME TALK ABOUT WHAT I'M HERE FIRST.
UH, I'LL SAVE MY COMMENTS ABOUT THE FISCAL 2024, UH, FISCAL FINANCIAL STATEMENT LATER.
BUT WHAT'S HAPPENED THESE TIMES I'VE COME IS WHERE THERE'S AN UNDERLYING COMMON CAUSE OF UNEXPLAINED, POORLY DOCUMENTED EXPENDITURES THAT WE KEEP SEEING COMING UP AND UP OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
IT STARTED OFF WITH JOSE, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, THE SAME UNDERLYING CAUSE IS CONTINUING.
YOU SEE IT IN, IF YOU QUESTION THE CAUSES HERE, YOU LOOK AT IT AS, AS, AS DUPLICATE EXPENDITURES THAT ARE OCCURRING HERE RIGHT NOW.
WE HAVE, UM, OUTSIDE, WE HAVE THIS HOUSING TENANT WRITE FLYERS, AND WE HAVE HCD, YOU KNOW, AND THEY'RE DOING A GREAT JOB, I THINK.
BUT YET WE HAVE A, A, A COUNCIL MEMBER WHO, UM, DOESN'T SEEM TO BE SUPPORTING THIS AREA.
AND, YOU KNOW, I GUESS THERE MIGHT BE BECAUSE HE'S SUPPORTING AN ORGANIZATION THAT MIGHT BE COMPETING WITH THE SAME TYPE OF SERVICES.
TO ME, THAT SOUNDS LIKE A DUPLICATION OF SERVICES THAT, YOU KNOW, NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT.
THE OTHER THING IS THAT THERE'S OTHER TYPE OF COSTS THAT WE HAVE.
LET ME HEAR, I'M GETTING OFF MY TRACK HERE.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THINGS LIKE, UM, VIDEOGRAPHY COST.
WE HAVE A PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER.
NOW, YOU KNOW, WHY ARE WE DUPLICATING THOSE TYPE OF SERVICES? YOU KNOW, SHOULDN'T WE QUESTION? DO WE NEED THAT TYPE OF, UH, VIDEOGRAPHY, UH, UH, UH, UH, BUSINESS PROMOTING? IF WE HAVE A PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER? YOU KNOW, WHY DO WE NEED THOSE TYPE OF COSTS? I'M JUST GETTING DOWN TO GENERAL FUND TYPE OF EXPENDITURES.
BUT THE PROBLEM, THE ISSUE I HAVE IS THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SAYS THE COST HAS TO BE REASONABLE AND NECESSARY.
UNFORTUNATELY, OUR GENERAL FUND, UH, GUIDELINES, DON'T FOLLOW THAT.
THANK, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT.
RANDY CASTLE SALGADO, FOLLOWED BY SHERRY GOGI, FOLLOWED BY DOYLE MORRISON.
UM, IT'S INCREDIBLY DISHEARTENING TO WITNESS THE PATTERN OF OUTSIDE INFLUENCES COMING INTO OUR COUNCIL MEETINGS.
NOT TO CONTRIBUTE CONSTRUCTIVELY, BUT TO INSULT
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OUR MAYOR, ATTACK OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS UNDERMINE OUR CITY STAFF AND PUBLICLY DISCREDIT OUR CHIEF OF POLICE CITY MANAGER.THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE NOT HERE TO SUPPORT NATIONAL CITY.
THEY'RE CREATING A CIRCUS-LIKE ENVIRONMENT THAT DISTRACTS FROM MEANINGFUL CITY BUSINESS AND DRAINS RESOURCES THAT SHOULD BE SERVING OUR RESIDENTS.
OUR STAFF IS ALREADY STRETCHED THIN, YET THEY'RE FORCED TO SPEND COUNTLESS HOURS RESPONDING TO EXCESSIVE PRA DEMANDS AND NAVIGATING LEGAL CHALLENGES INSTIGATED BY PEOPLE WHO DO NOT LIVE HERE AND DO NOT REPRESENT OUR COMMUNITY.
ALL REGARDING A PROJECT THAT IS NO LONGER EVEN ACTIVE.
THE AMOUNT OF STAFF TIME, LEGAL EXPENSE, AND EMOTIONAL TOLL THIS HAS CREATED IS UNACCEPTABLE.
WHAT IS EVEN MORE CONCERNING IS WATCHING CERTAIN COUNCIL MEMBERS, SPECIFICALLY YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER JOSE RODRIGUEZ, FAIL TO DEFEND OUR CITY AND INSTEAD ALIGN YOURSELF WITH OUTSIDE VOICES.
INSTEAD OF STANDING UP FOR OUR STAFF, OUR HARDWORKING EMPLOYEES, AND THE RESIDENTS WHO ACTUALLY LIVE IN NATIONAL CITY, YOU APPEAR TO AMPLIFY AND VALIDATE INDIVIDUALS WHOSE GOAL IS NOW TO SOW DIVISION AND MANIPULATE PUBLIC PERCEPTION THAT IS NOT LEADERSHIP.
EVERY ELECTED OFFICIAL UP HERE HAS A RESPONSIBILITY TO PUT NATIONAL CITY RESIDENTS FIRST.
THAT MEANS PROTECTING OUR STAFF FROM HARASSMENT, STANDING UP FOR THE TRUTH, AND REJECTING OUTSIDE GROUPS WHO TRY TO WEAPONIZE PUBLIC COMMENT TO PUSH AN AGENDA THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR COMMUNITY'S NEEDS.
IF ANY COUNCIL MEMBER IS UNWILLING OR UNABLE TO PRIORITIZE NATIONAL CITY AND THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE, THEN THEY SHOULD RECONSIDER WHETHER THEY DESERVE TO SIT IN THAT SEAT.
OUR RESIDENTS DESERVE REPRESENTATIVES WHO DEFEND THEM, NOT THOSE WHO ENABLE OUTSIDE LOBBYISTS TO TEAR DOWN OUR CITY.
I ENCOURAGE YOU TO CREATE A POLICY SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSING WHETHER A PUBLIC COMMENTER IS A RESIDENT OR NOT A RESIDENT.
THIS MAKES IT EASIER FOR COUNCIL, COMMISSIONS AND COMMUNITY.
THANK, THANK VERY MUCH AND BETTER DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN NEIGHBORS AND OUTSIDE LOBBYISTS.
I ENCOURAGE OUR LEADERS TO STAND TOGETHER.
SHERRY GOGI, FOLLOWED BY DOYLE MORRISON, FOLLOWED BY TONY.
IS IT BAZEL? I MAY HAVE MESSED THAT UP.
I CAME HERE WITH ONE AGENDA, WHICH WAS TO THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE GREAT OUT OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN IT RAINED TWO WEEKS AGO, IT WAS LITTLE HARD ON US, BUT EVERYTHING FLOWED LIKE WE'RE SUPPOSED TO FOR THE LAST 50 YEARS.
SO I HAD, WELL, A GOOD NIGHT'S SLEEP THE SECOND NIGHT, SO IT WAS GOOD
BUT I'M ALSO HERE TO BRING TO LIGHT AS A RESIDENT OF NATIONAL CITY, THAT OUR CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS ARE NOT TO BE USED FOR PERSONAL VENDETTAS.
I MEAN, IT'S JUST AMAZING HOW OUR OWN STAFF, OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS, OUR MAYOR, ARE BEING BUDGETED FOR PERSONAL VENDETTAS.
WHAT YOU, WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE? I'VE BEEN HERE NUMEROUS TIMES AND I CAN'T EVEN GET THROUGH BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE JUST LINED UP ON THIS ONE THING.
AND THEN I HAVE BUSINESS TO DO.
I CAN'T BE HERE TILL MIDNIGHT.
I THINK YOU SHOULD CHANGE YOU OUR AGENDA HERE IN NATIONAL CITY.
WE WANT TO, YOU DON'T WANT TO STIFLE IT.
LET THEM STAY HERE TILL MIDNIGHT AND DO THEIR THING.
AND LET US DO OUR BUSINESS IN NATIONAL CITY.
THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR IS NATIONAL CITY RESIDENCE.
JEFF, TO LET YOU KNOW IT USED TO BE THE POLICY.
THAT PUBLIC COMMENT WAS AT THE END OF OUR MEETING ONE TIME.
UM, KATE DOLE MORRISON, TONY BAZEL, AND THEN, UH, GUILLERMO GARCIA.
I AM NOT A RESIDENT OF NATIONAL CITY.
HOWEVER, LINCOLN ACRES IS UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF NATIONAL CITY, AND THEREFORE ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS IN NATIONAL CITY IS IMPORTANT TO THE RESIDENTS OF LINCOLN ACRES BECAUSE WE ARE INFLUENCED BY IT GREATLY.
UM, I KNOW THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT, UM, FEEL THE NEED THAT, THAT, UH, LINCOLN NECKERS RESIDENTS SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO COME AND, AND BE EMPOWERED TO TAKE PART IN THIS DEMOCRATIC PROCESS WITH YOU.
UM, WE ARE THERE FOR THE RIDE BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IN NATIONAL CITY WILL AFFECT US GREATLY.
I LIVE 140 FEET FROM THAT PROPERTY.
WHAT HAPPENS ON THAT PROPERTY? AND I DON'T KNOW WHY IT HAS TO BE THIS VENDETTA THING.
WHEN PEOPLE COME HERE LIKE MYSELF TO MAKE MEANINGFUL TO COMMENTS, TO HELP YOU GUYS MAKE A DECISION BASED ON ALL THINGS, LIKE YOUR GENERAL PLAN
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SAYS WITH THE COUNTY'S GENERAL PLAN, THAT YOU SHOULD COORDINATE WITH COMM, LOCAL COMMUNITIES, NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES, WHICH ON THAT PROJECT, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT HAPPENED.AND SO WHEN WE COME, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE GOOD FOR THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY AND FOR THIS, UH, C COMMUNITY OF LINCOLN ACRES.
SO I JUST ASK YOU GUYS TO ALLOW US TO CONTINUE TO COME AND TAKE PART OF THIS PROCESS BECAUSE WE ARE SO GREATLY INVOLVED AND WE WANT TO, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ZONING THAT HAPPENS IS GOOD FOR EVERYBODY, NOT JUST ONE DEVELOPER.
LIKE THAT PROPERTY WAS RESIDENTIAL.
IT COULD GO BACK TO RESIDENTIAL.
ONCE AGAIN, JUST LIKE THE REVOLVING DOOR OVER ON 16TH STREET THAT WE'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH, THAT YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR, LET ME TONY, BE FOLLOWED BY GUILLERMO.
MY NAME IS TONY BASEL AND, UH, I'M HERE TO, UH, GIVE PRAISES TO A NATIONAL CITY GYM, WHICH IS THE NATIONAL CITY GOLF COURSE.
UH, NATIONAL CITY GOLF COURSE IS A GREAT, UH, ENVIRONMENT.
OKAY, THAT, THAT, THAT'S ACTUALLY AN ITEM THAT'S ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT.
SO IF, IF YOU CAN WAIT A LITTLE WHILE THEN OKAY, WE'LL, WE WILL BRING YOU UP FOR THAT ONE.
I'LL, I'LL WRITE YOU DOWN FOR GOLF COURSE.
FIRST OFF, I WANNA SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK.
UM, I HAD TO COME SPEAK BECAUSE I'VE COME TO A FEW CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS AND IT'S PRETTY DISGUSTING TO SEE PEOPLE THAT AREN'T FROM THE CITY AT TECH.
PEOPLE THAT I KNOW PERSONALLY, AND PEOPLE WHO I LOOK UP TO, MR. MAYOR, I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ATTACKED YOU AND IT'S, IT'S UNFAIR, YOU KNOW, THAT PEOPLE WHO JUST COME HERE WITH AGENDAS AND ALL THAT.
SO I'M HERE TO RECORD, UH, REMIND PEOPLE YOU'VE BEEN IN POLITICS FOR A LONG TIME.
I WAS A YOUNG KID AT THE CYHC IN CLEMENTE, I REMEMBER WAS IN CHARGE, CITY COUNCIL AND ALL THAT.
I SAY THAT BECAUSE, UH, WE NEED TO DO MORE TO REACH THE YOUTH OUT HERE NOWADAYS, UH, THESE YOUNG HISPANICS ARE GETTING INTO GANGS IN MIDDLE SCHOOL, SOMETIMES THEY EVEN YOUNGER NOW.
SO, UH, JUST WANTED TO SEE IF THERE'S A WAY WE CAN MAYBE GET, YOU KNOW, KIND OF LAW ENFORCEMENT AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO KIND OF GO INTO THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS AND KIND OF BUILD A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THE, WITH THE CHILDREN AT A YOUNG AGE.
I KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT OT AND CI GREW UP AROUND THEM.
I COULD TWIST MY FINGERS, BUT THAT'S THE OLD ME.
UM, THE CYAC HELPED ME TO STOP BREAKING, UH, PEOPLE'S WINDOWS.
I REMEMBER I, I SPOKE AT THE CITY COUNCIL WHEN I WAS 16.
I WAS A YOUNG TROUBLEMAKER, BUT AFTER THAT, I WENT TO THE, I WENT TO THE MILITARY.
AND, UH, SO AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH TO A FELLOW VETERAN LIKE YOU, SIR.
AND AGAIN, TO THE PEOPLE THAT JUST HAVE NO FREAKING LIFE AND COME HERE AND JUST BASH PEOPLE ON THEIR CHARACTER AND THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW 'EM, THAT'S JUST COMPLETE EMBARRASSMENT.
BUT IT ONLY MAKES YOU LOOK EVEN HIGHER BY NOT GIVING INTO IT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE FOR THE CITY.
THANK YOU FOR, UH, WHAT THE, WHAT THE CITY HAS DONE FOR ME.
I'VE BEEN ABLE TO SERVE MY COUNTRY.
I'VE BEEN ABLE TO COME BACK AND, UH, JUST GET ADJUSTED TO LIFE LITTLE BY LITTLE.
AND AGAIN, THANK YOU AGAIN TO THE NATIONAL CITY FIRE DEPARTMENT AND NATIONAL CITY LAW ENFORCEMENT FOR EVERYTHING THEY'VE DONE.
HELP ME, UH, GET OUTTA MY FUNK AND I'M SLOWLY GETTING BACK INTO SOCIETY.
AND, UH, YEAH, CONTINUE AND LET'S CONTINUE FUNDING THIS UA SEE DURING MEETING.
UM, THAT'S ALL OF OUR SPEAKERS THAT WE HAVE HERE, BUT, UH, WE ARE AT THE 30 MINUTE MARK, SO, UH, ANY THAT WE HAVE ON ZOOM, WE WILL CARRY TO THE END OF THE MEETING.
ALRIGHT, SO WITH THAT WE GO INTO, UH,
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INTRODUCTION OF NEW EMPLOYEES AND LET'S SEE, WHO DO WE WANNA START OUT WITH FIRST? UM, HOW ABOUT ENGINEERING? WE MAY HAVE ONE.OH, SHE MIGHT HAVE PUT SOMETHING ELSE.
SANDRA, DID YOU, SANDRA? OKAY.
YOU STILL WANT TO SPEAK UNDER PUBLIC SUPPORT? YEAH, I, I APPRECIATE IT.
I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING UP HERE.
UM, YOU, YOU KNOW ME OBVIOUSLY.
AND I'VE BEEN COMING HERE
I MEAN, I USED TO RIDE MY HORSE AND THINGS LIKE THAT WHEN IT CAME DOWN ON SWEETWATER ROAD AND NATIONAL CITY.
AND EVEN OUR FOREFATHERS, OUR FOREFATHERS, THEY DIDN'T HAVE BOUNDARIES.
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THEY DIDN'T SAY, OH, YOU CAN'T GO HERE, YOU CAN'T GO HERE.AND, AND THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT THERE'S THIS QUESTION WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE ANSWERED.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE PROJECT WAS PULLED, BUT IS THE LEAST DEAD.
IF WE COULD HEAR THE WORDS, UH, YOU REMIND ME, LOOKING AT JAMARCUS, IF, IF WE COULD HEAR THAT THE LEASE IS DEAD, A LOT OF THIS WOULD BE ALLEVIATED, BUT WE DON'T KNOW THAT.
AND IF THERE'S ANY WAY YOU COULD SAY, LOOK, NOT ONLY IS THE PROJECT DEAD, THE LEASE IS DEAD, AND YOU KEEP REPEATING THAT, YOU KNOW, MIKA AND LOUISA WANTED THE PROPERTY, YOU GOTTA UNDERSTAND THAT IS THE ROAD THAT GETS YOU UP TO THIS VERY HISTORIC MONUMENT.
AND BY SAYING THAT THEY WOULD WANT IT TO BE RESIDENTIAL TO PUT THE HOMES THERE BECAUSE THERE IS A HOUSING SHORTAGE.
IT'S NOT THAT THEY WANNA BUY IT.
MAY I? SO IF WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT THAT, THAT AN OFFER WAS MADE OR NOT AN OFFER, WE DON'T KNOW THAT.
YEAH, WE ACTUALLY DO, BUT WE DO.
BUT WHAT WE DO KNOW, WHAT WE DON'T KNOW IS IF THE LEASE IS DEAD.
IF I CAN, SANDRA, I WANT YOU TO PLEASE NO, WE DON'T KNOW BECAUSE THE LEASE ISN'T WITH US.
THE LEASE IS BETWEEN A PRO, YOU KNOW, A LEASER AND THE PROPERTY OWNER.
SO WE HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING THAT.
IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE COULD FIND THIS OUT? BECAUSE IT WOULD BRING THIS TO A CLOSURE AND FOR THE NEW YEAR, IT WOULD BE A NEW START.
THE PROJECT, THE FEAR IS ABOUT THE PROJECT.
THE PROJECT OF THE PROPOSED GAS STATION IS DEAD AND HAS BEEN DEAD FOR A YEAR.
IT'S THEN IT'S NOT COMING BACK.
THERE'S NO PROPOSAL THAT HAS COME BACK.
SO IT'S RIGHT NOW, BUT IT'S A PRIVATE PROPERTY THAT WE ALREADY ZONED YEARS AGO.
THE PROBLEM IS NOW THAT EVERYTHING GOT LEGALLY MESSY WHEN THEY PUT AN OFFER ON THE PROPERTY AND THEY'RE ASKING US PUBLICLY TO DOWN ZONE.
AND THEY PUBLICLY ASKED US OR TOLD US THAT THEY WOULD DROP THE PRA LAWSUITS IF WE DOWN ZONE THE PROPERTY, WHICH THAT'S ILLEGAL.
AND I WOULD LIKE YOU AND THE MORRISONS TO PUBLICLY ACKNOWLEDGE THAT.
I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE JOSE AND DIHA TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT BECAUSE THE THREE OF US ON COUNCIL HAVE BEEN GETTING ATTACKED.
AND YOU GUYS WERE SILENT WHEN ALEX WAS GETTING ATTACKED TOO.
SO TO THE POINT MADE ABOUT EARLIER, UH, A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE MADE, THERE'S BULLYING THAT GOES ON.
MAYOR, WHY YOU DO THAT? THAT'S OUT OF ORDER.
DIHA, YOU'VE DONE THAT WHEN ED NITO CRITICIZED YOU, YOU WENT OUT OF ORDER.
I'M RESPONDING TO THESE COMMENTS HERE.
WE, I THINK IF WE COULD GET THIS, IN MY OPINION, IF I, OKAY, YEAH, IF I COULD, IT JUST, THAT WOULDN'T BE FROM US.
THAT, THAT'S A REQUEST THAT YOU CAN MAKE OF EITHER THE PEOPLE THAT, THAT YOU, THAT I, I'M ASSUMING STILL HAVE THE LEASE OR THE PROPERTY OWNER.
THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S NOWHERE IN OUR PURVIEW, MA'AM.
THAT'S BETWEEN THE LESSEE AND THE LESSER, WE DON'T HAVE A PARTY TO THAT.
IT'S JUST SUCH A BIG PROJECT THAT THEY WANTED TO DO.
NOW, UH, YOU ALLOWED FOR COMMENTS, OKAY.
SO I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO ALLOW OTHERS TO SAY A FEW WORDS.
UH, CLEARLY THERE'S A ORGANIZED GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS HERE IN SUPPORT OF, UH, THE MAYOR AND, AND MAYBE SOMEBODY ELSE.
BUT I, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THIS, I DID NOT ORGANIZE IT ALL.
NOT BEING FROM HERE IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
AND THEREFORE YOU DON'T HAVE A SAY IN OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
EVEN THOUGH IT IMPACTS ROADS, IT IMPACTS SCHOOLS, IT IMPACTS EVERYBODY.
COME UP WITH A BETTER ARGUMENT BECAUSE EVERYBODY HERE EITHER HAS A BUSINESS, HAS FAMILY GREW UP HERE, HAS THEIR KIDS HERE, OKAY? IT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO SAY YOU'RE NOT FROM HERE BECAUSE CLEARLY EVERYBODY HERE IS, IS HERE FOR A REASON.
WORK HERE, HAS A BUSINESS HERE, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, HAS GROWN UP HERE, HAS GROWN UP HERE, IS RAISING KIDS HERE, PLEASE.
SO IT, IT, IT REALLY BOTHERS ME.
AND THE LAST PART I'LL SAY IS THE IRONY OF ALL THIS, THE, THE AGGRESSORS CONSTANTLY ACTING AS THE VICTIMS NOT FOLLOWING OUR OWN POLICIES, BEING, UH, AGGRESSIVE TOWARDS OUR OWN STAFF, BULLYING THEM ON A CONSTANT BASIS.
I'M JUST SAYING, PLEASE, I CHALLENGE YOU ALL TO BE AS OBJECTIVE AS POSSIBLE AND NOT JUST GET INTO OUR OWN LITTLE CLS.
ALSO, PLEASE CONDEMN THE ATTACKS AGAINST OUR CITY MANAGER.
WHAT NOW I I'M GONNA MAKE, I'M GONNA HAVE TO MAKE A QUICK STATEMENT AND THAT IS, THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A DEAL SAYING THAT THE PEOPLE FROM LINCOLN ACRES DO NOT HAVE A VOICE HERE.
BECAUSE INDEED WHAT HAPPENS IN NASHVILLE CITY
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AFFECTS LINCOLN ACRES.I THINK ANYONE WILL AGREE TO THAT.
THE PROBLEM CAME UP IS WHEN THE PEOPLE FROM LINCOLN ACRES IN THIS MEETING AND IN THEIR COMMUNITY MEETING SAID, WE WANT NATIONAL CITY TO KEEP, KEEP, UH, HAVE NO SAY IN, IN LINCOLN ACRES AND NO INVOLVEMENT IN LINCOLN ACRES THERE.
WAIT A MINUTE, WHAT HAPPENS IN LINCOLN ACRES AFFECTS US TOO.
IT WAS THE HYPOCRISY OF SAYING IT ONLY GOES ONE DIRECTION.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE THAT CAME UP.
IT NEVER, NO ONE EVER SAID THAT ANYONE, SAN DIEGO, I DON'T CARE, CLAREMONT OR ANYWHERE, DOES NOT HAVE A RIGHT TO COME HERE AND SPEAK.
AND YOU KNOW THAT, THAT ONE, ONE COMMUNITY AFFECTS THE OTHER, BUT THIS COMMUNITY DOES NOT AFFECT THAT ONE.
THAT I THINK WAS THE CONCERN ON THAT ONE.
SO THERE'S NO, UH, SO TO WEAPONIZE ALL THIS STUFF AND DO ALL THAT KINDA STUFF IS JUST TOTALLY RIDICULOUS.
UM, SO WITH THAT, WE WILL GO ON TO E EMPLOYEE, UM, UH, RECOGNITIONS OF NEW EMPLOYEES.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE, UM, OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
I AM, I SERVE AS A PRINCIPAL, UH, CIVIL ENGINEER AT ENGINEERING PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT DEPARTMENT.
I'M HERE TO INTRODUCE A NEW EMPLOYEE.
HE IS, UH, UH, JOSEPH FERDO AND I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE A BRIEF BIOGRAPHY OF HIM.
UH, JOSEPH, UM, JOINED THE NATIONAL CITY PUBLIC WORKS PARKS DIVISION ON NOVEMBER 11TH AND HAS ALREADY SHOWN HI, UH, HIMSELF TO BE A GOOD TEAM MEMBER WITH A GREAT ATTITUDE.
SAW IT WORK ETHIC, A POSITIVE VIBE THAT FIT RIDING, UH, WITH OUR CREW.
JOSEPH COMES TO US FROM BEHA CASINO WHERE HE WORKED FOR SEVERAL YEARS AS THE GROUND PERSON.
BEFORE THAT, HE SERVED AS THE CREW LEADER WITH THE CALIFORNIA CON, UH, CONSERVATION CORPS, GAINING VALUABLE, UH, LEADERSHIP AND FIELD EXPERIENCE.
ONE OF THE JOSEPH'S PROFESSIONAL GOALS, UM, IS TO OBTAIN THE COMMERCIAL CLASS B LICENSE, WHICH IS, UH, EXPECTED, UM, HIM THAT WILL EXPAND HIS EQUIPMENT OPERATION SKILL SET AND PROVIDE FUTURE OPPORTUNITIES FOR CAREER ADVANCEMENT IN HIS FREE TIME.
JOSEPH ENJOY BIKE RIDING AND THEY HAVE BIG FAN OF OR WATCHING SPORTS.
PLEASE, UM, HELP US TO GIVE A WARM WELCOMING TO JOSEPH, UH, FOR HARDO.
AS THE NEWEST MEMBERS OF THE NATIONAL CITY FAMILY, WE ARE VERY EXCITED TO HAVE HIM ON BOARD.
OKAY, UH, NEXT WE HAVE WITH, UH, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
GOOD EVENING MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL, STAFF, PUBLIC, UH, IN SOME HAPPY AIR NEWS.
SO I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE YOU TO ONE OF OUR HAPPIEST EMPLOYEES.
SO, UH, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE, UH, SORRY.
MARTIN READER, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE MY NEWEST FULL-TIME CODE CONFORMANCE OFFICER, ALTHOUGH SHE'S BEEN HERE FOR A YEAR AS PART-TIME, MARILYN VIBA.
MARILYN IS A PROUD NATIONAL CITY RESIDENT WHO GREW UP IN THE COMMUNITY AND ATTENDED JOHN A OTIS ELEMENTARY, NATIONAL CITY MIDDLE SCHOOL, AND SWEETWATER HIGH SCHOOL.
MARILYN WAS CROWNED MISSION NATIONAL CITY.
MARILYN WENT ON TO EARN A BA IN CRIMINOLOGY AND JUSTICE STUDIES FROM CAL POLY HUMBOLDT IN 2018.
AND AFTER GRADUATION, RETURNED HOME TO SERVE HER COMMUNITY THROUGH THE COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT BEFORE TRANSITIONING TO NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.
SHE IMMEDIATELY MADE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE DEPARTMENT WITH HER EXCEPTIONALLY POSITIVE ATTITUDE, TRUE STORY, COLLABORATIVE SPIRIT, AND CONSTANT WILLINGNESS TO LEND A HELPING HAND.
SHE'S NOW CONTINUING HER EDUCATION AND WORKING TOWARDS A MASTER'S OF PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION TO FURTHER SUPPORT AND STRENGTHEN THE CITY.
WE'VE ALL BEEN WAITING FOR IT FOR A WHILE, AND I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS MOMENT FOR A WHILE AND IT PLAYED DIFFERENTLY IN MY HEAD EACH TIME.
UM, BUT I'LL JUST SAY THAT IT ABSOLUTELY IS VERY SPECIAL AND ENDEARING TO ME TO COME HOME.
THAT HAD BEEN A DREAM OF MINE SINCE I HAD GRADUATED.
SO BEING FULL-TIME IS WONDERFULLY EXCEPTIONAL, NOT JUST, UM, BECAUSE I HAVE ALSO DEVELOPED A RELATIONSHIP WITH EVERYONE SITTING UP HERE AND ALSO A LOT OF THE MEMBERS THAT ARE SITTING IN THE DESKS BEHIND ME.
I AM A PROUD PRODUCT OF THIS COMMUNITY, AND NOT JUST TO YOU ALL, BUT TO OUR RESIDENTS.
I WILL ABSOLUTELY DO MY PART IN MAKING YOU PROUD, BUT GIMME SOME GRACE.
YOU, YOU FORGOT TO GIVE YOUR, YOUR NICKNAME.
I'M TROUBLEMAKER TO EVERYONE ELSE.
THAT'S, THAT'S IT RIGHT THERE.
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AND, UH, WHILE I'M UP HERE, I'LL INTRODUCE OUR OTHER EMPLOYEE, FRANK CENA, WHO YOU SEE ON THE THIRD PICTURE FROM THE BOTTOM.
UH, FRANK JOINS US AS A FULL-TIME PERMIT TECHNICIAN AFTER WORKING ALONGSIDE OUR TEAM AS A CONTRACTED EMPLOYEE.
HE WORKED FOR ESCO FOR A WHILE.
I, AS AN ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT FOR ALMOST THREE YEARS.
UH, HE GREW UP IN SAN YSIDRO AND HERE IN SOUTH BAY AND ATTENDED UNIVERSITY HIGH SCHOOL.
AND HIS EXPERIENCE WORKING HERE IN THE CITY AS WELL AS TIME SPENT WITH THE CITY OF SANTEE AND THE CITY OF LEMON GROVE.
GIVEN THE FOUNDATIONAL KNOWLEDGE TO BENEFIT THE BUILDING DIVISION, THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, AND OF COURSE THE CITY FRANK'S CAN-DO ATTITUDE AND EAGERNESS TO ASSIST OUR, OUR CITIZENS IS EXACTLY WHAT NATIONAL CITY NEEDS.
AND HE IS WITHOUT DOUBT, A GREAT ADDITION TO OUR STAFF AND NOBODY REALLY NOTICES HIM.
'CAUSE HE IS ALWAYS IN THE CORNER.
BUT IF YOU EVER GO IN TO SEE WHERE THE PLANS ARE STORED, THEY'RE IMMACULATELY STORED.
HE'S DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB WORKING FOR US.
HE DOESN'T EVER LOOK FOR ANY RECOGNITION, BUT HE'S DEFINITELY, UH, INTEGRAL PART OF OUR STAFF AND I'M PROUD TO HAVE HIM ON BOARD.
WE HAVE, WE ALSO, IF YOU'LL NOTICE UP THERE, WE ALSO HAVE, UH, MICHAEL PACHECO, BUT HE WAS INTRODUCED ACTUALLY AT THE LAST MEETING,
YOU, YOU ONLY GET ONE SHOT, YOU KNOW.
WE'RE NOT, NOT DO THAT ONE AGAIN.
I I JUST WANTED TO WELCOME ALL THE NEW EMPLOYEES.
SO, UH, MI MICHAEL, UH, FRANCISCO JOSEPH.
REALLY EXCITED FOR, UM, I, I DON'T KNOW YOU GUYS PERSONALLY, BUT JUST WELCOME.
REALLY EXCITED FOR YOU GUYS TO WORK WITH US.
AND I HOPE YOU, UM, STAY WITH US AND GROW IN THIS ORGANIZATION.
UM, BUT I DO, JUST BECAUSE I KNOW HER, I DO WANNA GIVE A SPECIAL SHOUT OUT TO MARLENE ALBA.
AND I MET, UM, UH, MARILYN ACTUALLY THROUGH, UH, MARTHA JUAREZ WHEN MARTHA WAS ON THE SHAI FOUNDATION.
AND SO, UH, JUST REALLY SO EXCITED FOR YOU TO JOIN US FULL-TIME.
YOU ALSO SERVED AS, UM, AS ES AS HIS COUNCIL MEMBER.
AND YOU HAVE SO MUCH EXPOSURE TO ORGANIZATION.
I'M CALLING IT, I SEE SO MUCH TALENT IN YOU.
I SEE YOU AS FUTURE CITY MANAGER ONE DAY, UH, DOWN IN THE FUTURE.
AND I THINK IT'S THE VALUE OF ALSO INVESTING IN LOCAL AND INVESTING IN RECRUITING OUR YOUTH FROM SWEETWATER AND GETTING THEM ENGAGED.
WE DON'T WANT TO BE EXCLUSIVE, RIGHT? WE, SO WE STILL WELCOME PEOPLE FROM THE OUTSIDE, BUT I THINK WE JUST NEED TO REALLY CONCENTRATE SOME OF OUR RESOURCES AND THE PEOPLE HERE THAT HAVE THE TALENT, THAT HAVE THE EXPOSURE, THE EXPERIENCE WITH OUR LOCAL PEOPLE, AND HOW DOES, AND THAT WILLINGNESS AND COMMITMENT TO SERVE TOO.
AND I DO WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO STAFF, TO, TO DANNY, TO, TO MARTHA, OUR, OUR ACTING CITY MANAGER FOR, UH, DOING THE, UH, SWEETWATER HIGH SCHOOL, UH, JOB FAIR LA LAST, UH, COUPLE WEEKS AGO.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES.
AND WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT IN YEARS, SO I JUST, THERE'S SO MUCH MORE TALENT, UH, TO, TO FIND.
AND I JUST REALLY WANT TO COMMEND STAFF FOR DOING THESE INTROS AND, UH, FOR, AND WANNA WELCOME YOU ALL.
WITH THAT, WE GOT FLIPPED BACK OVER HERE.
[7.2 Civil Service Commission - Annual Report]
GO TO, UH, THE ANNUAL REPORT FROM OUR CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION.MAYOR MORRISON, COUNCIL MEMBERS, UM, IF YOU HAVEN'T MET, THIS IS WELLINGTON KLOVE, SAY HELLO TO HIM.
UM, IT'S GREAT TO HAVE WELLINGTON ON AS, AS A NEW CIVIL SERVICE, UH, MEMBER.
UH, WE ALSO JUST BROUGHT ON A ROBERT WARNER FROM THE SWEETWATER ZEN CENTER.
UM, AND SO THERE'S BEEN A BIT OF, OF TURNOVER, YOU KNOW, OVER THE LAST YEAR WE LOST, UM, UM, OH MAN, HOW AM I BLANKING ON THAT? UM, COURTNEY.
HE SERVED ON THE, ON THE CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION FOR A DECADE OR SO.
AND, AND HE, UH, AND HE STEPPED DOWN.
UM, BUT IT WAS REALLY A PLEASURE WORKING WITH HIM.
SO WE'LL, WE'LL MISS HIM A GREAT DEAL.
SO WE'RE AGAIN DELIVERING THE, THE CIVIL SERVICE ANNUAL REPORT.
SO WE CAN GET INTO THAT REALLY QUICK.
SO OUR COMMISSION, UM, HAS THE REGULAR MEETINGS, UM, EVERY OTHER MONTH, SECOND WEDNESDAY OF THE MONTH AT FIVE 30.
AND BY THE WAY, IT'S A PUBLIC MEETING AND, AND NOBODY FROM THE PUBLIC GOES TO THEM.
SO YOU CAN, I'M SAYING YOU CAN COME BY AND, AND GIVE US SOME COMPANY.
'CAUSE UM, JOAN, JOAN SHOWED UP ONCE IN THE SIX YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN DOING THIS.
SO PUBLIC COME HANG OUT WITH US, IT'D BE COOL.
UM, SO BETWEEN, UH, JULY OF, OF 24 AND SEPTEMBER OF THIS YEAR, WE HAD FOUR REGULAR MEETINGS, UH, JULY, MARCH, UH, MAY AND SEPTEMBER.
AND THEN WE HAD A FEW SPECIAL MEETINGS HELD, UM, OCTOBER OF 24.
A COUPLE OF THOSE, AND ALSO A COUPLE IN MAY.
ONE WAS CANCELED, UM, BECAUSE OF NO AGENDA.
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UH, SO DURING THAT CALENDAR YEAR, WE HAD, UH, 10 NEW CLASSIFICATIONS CREATED, UM, APPROVED BY THE COMMISSION, 18 CLASSIFICATIONS REVISED, AND THEN FIVE RECLASSIFICATIONS.UM, ALL OF THOSE ITEMS APPROVED.
AND WE DID HAVE ONE, UH, EMPLOYEE DISCIPLINARY HEARING, UM, THAT WAS BRIEF, UH, THAT WE HAVEN'T HEARD, OR, UH, WE DON'T HAVE ANY DETAILS ON THE RESOLUTION OF THAT, BUT WE DID HAVE THAT HEARING, UM, A BRIEF ONE.
UH, AND CURRENTLY, OF COURSE, I'M THE CHAIR OF THE COMMISSION AND VICE-CHAIR SAMSEL IS NOT WITH US TONIGHT.
UM, BUT WE'VE GOT WELLINGTON, AND AGAIN, MR. WERNER, UH, A PRETTY STRONG LITTLE GROUP.
UH, HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ADDING, UH, ANOTHER, UH, PERSON HERE PRETTY QUICKLY SO WE CAN BECOME FULL AGAIN.
UM, YEAH, SO THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S THE REPORT.
UM, CERTAINLY I CAN TAKE QUESTIONS IF YOU LIKE.
I DID HAVE A COUPLE OF OF THINGS JUST TO, TO, TO TALK ABOUT FROM THE BYLAWS QUICKLY, JUST AS OBSERVATIONS, BUT OKAY.
I DON'T WANNA SMASH THE MEETING UP AND MAKE IT LONGER THAN IT NEEDS TO BE.
BUT
AND I ACTUALLY, THE CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION WAS THE FIRST COMMISSION, UH, I, I SERVED IN SO, UH, FAMILIAR AND, AND APPRECIATE THE ROLE.
AND NOW THAT WE HAVE A NEW HR DIRECTOR AND SHE'S DONE PHENOMENAL WORK ALREADY, SO REALLY SHOUT OUT TO, UH, ALICIA HICKS.
UM, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK, AND THIS IS, UM, KIND OF A CRITIQUE OF ALL OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, I JUST FEEL THAT WE DON'T GIVE ENOUGH TRAINING TO YOU ALL.
I DON'T, I FEEL LIKE, UM, THAT THERE ISN'T ENOUGH, UM, PROACTIVE KIND OF LEADERSHIP ON YOUR GUYS' PART, BUT I THINK THAT MIGHT BE BECAUSE WE, AND SOMETIMES OUR CITY STAFF MIGHT BOX YOU IN TOO MUCH OR WE MIGHT BOX YOU IN TOO MUCH.
BECAUSE I THINK THAT, UM, LOOKING AT YOUR, UM, AT THE BYLAWS OF JUST THE ROLE, I THINK YOU COULD PLAY A LARGER ROLE IN THE, IN THE CITY.
AND I DON'T KNOW, UM, EXACTLY HOW, BUT I, I JUST MENTIONED ABOUT HIRING, FOR EXAMPLE, AND MAKING SURE THAT LIKE WE, MAYBE I, WE DON'T HAVE ANY HIRING GOALS OF LOCAL, BUT MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL COULD LOOK LIKE.
MAYBE IT'S ADDING POINTS TO, UH, LOCAL CANDIDATES.
LIKE I, SO I DON'T, YOU KNOW, KNOW, KNOW, EXACTLY, AND ALICIA JUST STARTED.
SO I DON'T WANNA OVERWHELM, UH, HER, UH, HER STAFF EITHER, UM, WITH, UH, NEW PROPOSALS, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'RE, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF, UH, BRINGING ON A NEW, UH, CITY MANAGER.
BUT, UM, I DO APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU ALL DO, AND I THINK MAYBE THERE COULD BE SOME NEW, NEW, UM, SOME MORE, YOU KNOW, TRAINING OR ASSISTANCE WITH YOU ALL.
AND THAT'S NOT JUST A CRITIQUE OF THE CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION, THAT'S, THAT'S ALL OUR BOARDS OF COMMITTEES AND INCLUDING PLANNING PARKS, TRAFFIC, CPRC, ET CETERA.
ANYTHING ELSE? I BELIEVE THAT'S IT.
I MEAN, THE, OF THE BYLAWS AND HAVEN'T BEEN AMENDED SINCE 2018, AND TO YOUR POINT, UH, ON THE SECOND PAGE, ONE OF THE ITEMS IS THAT THE, ONE OF THE ROLES IS TO CONDUCT AND SCORE EXAMINATIONS AND CERTIFY TO THE APPOINTING POWER LIST OF PERSONS ELIGIBLE FOR APPOINTMENT IN APPROPRIATE CLASS.
SO THAT, THAT, THAT PARTICULAR ITEM MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S BEEN A NON-EXISTENT ROLE FOR US, BUT IT'S ONE OF THE ITEM NUMBER FOUR, UM, IN THE DUTIES.
UM, AND THEN I, I DON'T, I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR A POINT THAT I'VE MADE BEFORE, BUT NUMBER ONE IS THAT WE ARE THE ADVISOR BODY, UH, TO THE COUNCIL AND HUMAN RESOURCES, UH, TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON ANY MATTER OF PERSONNEL ADMINISTRATION.
UM, AND, AND MY ISSUE WITH THAT IS JUST WE'RE, YOU KNOW, YOU MENTIONED BOXING BY STAFF AND, AND I, THAT'S NOT EXPLICIT, BUT CERTAINLY, UM, YOU KNOW, I WAS GIVEN A BINDER SIX YEARS AGO OR WHATEVER, AND THEY'RE LIKE, HERE'S THE BINDER, AND THEN YOU GO TO THE MEETING, YOU KNOW? UM, AND THAT'S HOW IT WAS WITH ME TOO.
AND, AND SO, YOU KNOW WHAT, IT'S A, IT IS WHAT IT IS, BUT, UM, AS, AS I'VE GOTTEN TO DO THIS, YOU KNOW, OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, I, I FEEL MORE EMPOWERED TO, TO VOICE MY OPPOSITION TO THE PROCESS IN GENERAL.
UH, SO MUCH SO THAT THE LAST HR DIRECTOR WAS GONNA PULL THE CLASSIFICATION APPROVAL ROLE FROM US, BECAUSE I FOUND IT TO JUST BE A WASTE OF TIME.
LIKE IT'S, YOU'RE ASKING US TO ADVISE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO DO THE WORK TO MAKE A, AN INFORMED ADVISEMENT.
UM, AND SO IT ALWAYS JUST COMES, YOU KNOW, WHOEVER THE DEPARTMENT HEAD IS, RIGHT? IT ALWAYS COMES, HEY, HERE'S THE CLA, HERE'S THE JOB DESCRIPTION.
IT'S BEAUTIFUL, WE DID THIS AND, AND HEY, YOU KNOW, IT FITS IN THE BUDGET AND WE NEED THIS.
AND SO WHAT DO YOU NEED US FOR, YOU KNOW, LIKE
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THE, UM, AND INTERACTIONS FROM THE, UM, COMMISSIONERS, UM, THAT WERE OUT OF LINE OR INAPPROPRIATE JUST NOT FOLLOWING THROUGH.AND I DO THINK THAT'S TRUE, BUT I THINK THAT'S A RESULT OF NOT ENOUGH TRAINING AND JUST KIND OF GOING OVER WHAT YOUR GUYS' ROLES ARE.
AND SO WHAT I WOULD ENCOURAGE MOVING FORWARD IS YOU, THAT YOU ALL PROACTIVELY TAKE LEADERSHIP AND LOOK AT THE BYLAWS AND COME UP WITH SOME IDEAS ON YOUR OWN THAT WAY TO SAVE LIKE SOME OF OUR STAFF TIME AND RESOURCES, AND THEN IT COULD START, UH, A DISCUSSION.
AND, AND I ALSO THINK THAT MAYBE IF, IF WE NEED TO GET THAT TIME TO DO IT, 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, WE, AGAIN, WE GOT MR. WARNER WELLINGTON'S AMAZING.
YOU KNOW, IF WE, IF WE BECOME FULL AND WE CAN DO THE WORK, THERE IS AN ITEM HERE THAT SAYS THE COUNCIL, THAT'S Y'ALL, UH, CAN GIVE US A STIPEND, UH, WHEN, WHEN DEEMED APPROPRIATE, WHEN DEEMED APPROPRIATE.
DOES IT ACTUALLY SAY THAT? IT DOES.
RIGHT HERE IT SAYS THE COMMISSION MEMBERS SHALL SERVE WITHOUT COMPENSATION BOO.
EXCEPT THAT THE CITY COUNCIL MAY FROM TIME TO TIME, HEY, I CAN READ THE REST OF IT.
BUT SUCH EXPENSES OR ANY, ANY CASE, ANYTHING INCURRED DURING THE CONDUCT OF THE COMMISSION MM-HMM
SO, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE YEARS AGO WE HAD REALLY LONG, UM, HEARINGS, YOU KNOW, THAT WENT, UH, YOU KNOW, INTO LATE IN THE EVENING.
I MEAN, THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN AN APPROPRIATE TIME, UM, TO BE COMPENSATED EVEN, EVEN SLIGHTLY.
BUT CERTAINLY IT WOULD MAKE SENSE IF WE WERE TO NOT, NOT JUST WITHOUT ANY KIND OF COLLABORATION WITH STAFF OR, OR COUNCIL, BUT TO HAVE A STRUCTURED PLANNING SESSION TO TRY AND BROADEN AND, AND MAKE USE OF THE COMMISSION IN A REAL WAY, IN A MEANINGFUL WAY.
WELL, DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING GOOD NIGHT.
DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MAYOR.
REAL QUICK, IF I CAN MAKE A COMMENT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, WELLINGTON.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHAIR ROBOWSKI FOR THIS REPORT.
UM, THE POINTS THAT YOU'VE MADE ARE VERY, UM, INTERESTING TO ME AND I WILL FOLLOW UP WITH YOU ON, ON SOME OF THAT.
[8. REGIONAL BOARDS AND COMMITTEE REPORTS (Limited to Five (5) Minutes each)]
UH, REGIONAL BOARDS AND COMMITTEE REPORTS FROM THE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS.I'LL START DOWN HERE ON MY LEFT.
WE HAVE AN MTS PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MEETING THIS THURSDAY.
NO REPORT FOR SWEETWATER AUTHORITY.
UM, NO REPORT ON SAN DIEGO COMMUNITY POWER SAN DIEGO COUNTY AUTHORITY.
WE HAD, UH, THE BOARD ADOPTED THE RESOLUTION, UM, TO STAB ESTABLISHING THE VOTE AND REPRESENTATIVE ENTITLEMENTS OF EACH MEMBER AGENCY EFFECTIVE JANUARY 1ST, 2026.
AND THAT'S THE END OF MY REPORT, MAYOR.
I DO HAVE A REPORT FOR SANDAG SANDAG JUST APPOINTED A NEW, UM, UH, ATTORNEY.
I'M TRYING TO COME UP WITH THE NAME.
UM, I ALWAYS END UP WRITING MY NOTES AND THEN I NEVER CAN FIND THEM IN TIME FOR, TO REPORT OUT.
BUT, UM, WE HAVE A NEW, UM, ATTORNEY THAT REPRESENTS SANDAG, UM, UH, AND HIS NAME IS TEDDY LONG.
FOR, UH, MTS WE HAD A A, A BIG DISCUSSION.
THE, THE LAST WEEK ON BUDGET, UH, WE ARE NOT GOING TO MOVE FORWARD OR VERY LIKELY WILL NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH A SALES TAX INITIATIVE THAT WAS DISCUSSED TO FUND TRANSIT.
AND SO WE, I THINK WE MISSED THE BOAT THERE.
I DO HEAR THERE'S OTHER GROUPS LIKE THE COUNTY THAT ARE LOOKING AT A 1 CENT, UH, SALES TAX MEASURE, SAN DIEGO.
UM, SO, BUT THAT DOES IMPACT THE CHANCES OF SOMETHING LIKE THIS PASSING.
I HAVE AIR POLLUTION CONTROL DISTRICT, UH, NEXT WEEK.
AND ONE OF THE, I, UH, BIG ITEMS THERE IS A MILLION DOLLARS FROM THE AB 617 FUNDS IN THE INTEREST ACCOUNT.
UH, THERE'S A PROPOSAL TO CONTINUE TO EXPAND AP CD'S ROLE ON THE, UH, AIR FILTER DISTRIBUTION PROGRAM.
I WILL SAY THAT THAT WAS A RESPONSE, AN EMERGENCY RESPONSE TO THE TJ SEWAGE RIVER CRISIS.
I'LL SAY THIS IN A WAY, IT DID NEGATIVELY IMPACT NATIONAL CITY.
AND WE AT A PCD HAD TO SHIFT RESOURCES FROM WHAT WAS CALLED THE P PROGRAM, WHICH WAS DISTRIBUTION OF FILTERS, UH, ESPECIALLY ON OT AND C IN THE WEST SIDE.
UM, AND THAT GOT DELAYED AND, AND THE, UM, AIR MONITORS GOT DELAYED.
AND A LOT OF IT I FOUND OUT RECENTLY WAS A RESULT OF STAFF SHIFTING SO MANY OF OUR RESOURCES AT A PCD TO THE TJ SEWAGE RIVER CRISIS.
SO I'M NOT TRYING TO PLAY, UM, LIKE GEOGRAPHICAL, YOU KNOW, POLITICS, WE WANNA HELP IB AND SOUTH SAN DIEGO OUT.
BUT NOW THAT THE AIR QUALITY HAS IMPROVED, WE HAVE THE FILTERS.
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BE PUSHING THAT, THAT NOT ALL OF THE $1 MILLION BE ALLOTTED, UH, JUST FOR THE TJ SEWAGE RIVER.I'M GONNA PUSH THAT, THAT GO TO RESTORATION OF THE PARA PROGRAM IN OUR WEST SIDE.
NATIONAL CITY RESIDENTS HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT POLLUTION.
SO I'M HOPING THAT WON'T BE TOO CONTENTIOUS, BUT I DO, I DO HAVE THAT.
AND THE OTHER COMMENT I'LL SAY, UH, TO, UM, OUR, OUR SANDAG REPRESENTATIVE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER MOLINA, UM, I'LL, I, I FORGOT TO FOLLOW UP WITH YOU ABOUT THIS SO I'LL FOLLOW UP.
BUT I AM CONCERNED THAT ON THIS SANDAG THERE'S BEEN, UM, A BIKE, THERE'S A BIKEWAY, UH, PROJECT, UH, THAT IS, UH, GOING CONNECTING BAYSHORE BIKEWAY TO SOUTHEAST SAN DIEGO.
IT RUNS THROUGH NATIONAL CITY.
SO THAT'S MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF FUNDING.
I THINK WE'VE DONE SOME DESIGN ENGINEERING WORK.
I KNOW STEVE, UH, MAGELLA, AND I'M NOT SURE IF, UH, MARTHA HAS, HAS WORKED ON THIS PROJECT, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S BEING PULLED OR CANCELED.
SO IF YOU COULD, UH, TAKE AN A LOOK AT THAT WITH SAND DECK STAFF, AND WE CAN BE OFFLINE.
BUT I JUST WANNA SAY FOR THE RECORD THAT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THAT FUNDING, UH, BEING PULLED BY SANDECK STAFF.
SO, AND THAT'S MY REPORT, REPORT FROM MY COMMITTEES.
OUR SLIPS ARE OVERFLOWING AND THEY'RE FLOWING OVER TOP OF EACH OTHER.
SO I DID MISS ON OUR, UM, CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION REPORT.
THERE WERE TWO SPEAKERS ON THAT.
UH, UH, MPV AND SANDRA, GOOD EVENING AGAIN, I'M SORRY TO, UH, BE AN OUTSIDER.
I WASN'T AN OUTSIDER WHEN YOU, UH, WERE CAMPAIGNING FOR ALL THE DAY OF THE DEAD EVENTS AND MEMORIAL DAYS, RON AND MARCUS.
I WASN'T AN OUT OUTSIDER WHEN YOU NEEDED MONEY FOR YOUR CAMPAIGN.
DID THIS GUY ANYTHING TO DO WITH CIVIL SERVICE? UH, MARCUS YES.
AS FAR AS THE CIVIL, UH, SERVICE COMMISSION, CHAIRMAN OF THE CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION, PAUL WAKI THAT JUST SPOKE, ASKED THE MORRISON GOON SQUAD MEMBER, UH, IF YOU CAN BELIEVE IT, HE'S A SWEETWATER SCHOOL TEACHER WHO POSTS ON SOCIAL MEDIA COMMENTS SUCH AS STUPID AS S**T.
THOSE ARE THE COMMENTS THAT ARE BEING, UH, SPOKEN BY MR. PAUL WADOWSKI.
WHAT AN EXAMPLE TO OUR CHILDREN IN OUR COMMUNITY.
WHAT TRAINING HAS HE RECEIVED ON SOCIAL MEDIA? WHAT TRAININGS HAS HE RECEIVED ON CODE OF ETHICS FOR YOUR POLICY? 1 0 7.
OBVIOUSLY THAT'S THE TRAINING THAT HE NEEDS.
MARCUS, YOU JUST TOLD HIM HE NEEDS MORE TRAINING.
WELL, THAT WOULD BE TRAINING 1 0 1 FOR MR. PAUL WOLSKI, BECAUSE HE REALLY NEEDS IT.
WHAT KIND OF TERMINOLOGY FROM A CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSIONER IS THAT? OUTSIDERS.
WE PAY PROPERTY TAXES, OUTSIDERS, WE PAY SALES TAX OUTSIDERS.
WE SERVICE MOST OF OUR, UH, CUSTOMERS AND FAMILIES OF LA VISTA ARE FROM NATIONAL CITY IS OLDER THAN THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY.
IT'S BEEN THERE FOR 157 YEARS SERVING OUR COMMUNITY.
YOU MAY WANT US TO BE, BUT WE'RE NOT.
UH, HE'S NOT FIT TO BE A TEACHER AND HE'S NOT FIT TO BE ON THAT CIVIL THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
UH, SANDRA, I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH WHAT MIKA JUST SAID, AND YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD WHEN YOU SAID THAT HE NEEDS TRAINING.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMEBODY WHO IS IN SCHOOLS AND THEN TO BE ABLE TO READ THINGS.
I DON'T KNOW IF HIS STUDENTS ARE READING THINGS EXACTLY WHAT HE SAID.
SOME SERIOUSLY STUPID ASS S**T.
THAT'S NOT A REPRESENTATION OF WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN HERE.
FINALLY, YOU AND I CAN GRIEVE 100%.
HE NEEDS TO REPRESENT HIMSELF, HAVE THE BETTER CODE OF ETHICS, A SOCIAL MEDIA TRAINING, EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID, AND THE OATH OF OFFICE THAT HE TOOK.
WHEN HE TOOK THAT OATH OF OFFICE, HE REPRESENTED WHAT WAS TO BE DONE.
NOW YOU DON'T, PLEASE DON'T ANSWER, BUT I'M GONNA ASK IT ANYWAY.
IF YOUR CHILD HAD THIS FOR A TEACHER, WOULD YOU REACT? BECAUSE THIS IS ABSOLUTELY WRONG.
AND IF IT'S NOT GONNA HANDLE GET HERE, IT'S GONNA GET HANDLED WITH THE SWEETWATER SCHOOL DISTRICT.
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LET ME REMIND PEOPLE WHEN WE ARE ON A SUBJECT THAT WE STAGE WITH A SUBJECT THAT'S NOT INTO PERSONALITY ATTACKS.IN THIS CASE, IT WAS ABOUT CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION.
NOW, THEN I, MR. MAYOR? YES, I, I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT, UH, THERE HAVE BEEN NUMEROUS ISSUES WITH MR. WADOWSKI, EVEN IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND I WOULD LIKE HIM AND THE COMMISSION AS A WHOLE TO REVISIT POLICY 1 0 7 AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE ADEQUATE TRAINING SO THAT THERE'S NO EXCUSES HIMSELF AND A COMMUNITY MEMBER HERE WENT TO ANOTHER COMMUNITY MEETING ALONG WITH MARCUS BUSH, GOT INTO ALMOST A FIST FIGHT, AN ALTERCATION.
COMPLETELY RIDICULOUS THING TO DO.
AND SO I DO THINK THAT IS NOT A WAY TO ACT IN PUBLIC.
AND SO I, I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER THE PEOPLE THAT ARE REPRESENTING OUR CITY TO DO SO IN A RESPECTFUL MANNER AND NOT BE GETTING IN FIST FIGHTS OUT IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND THEN BEING TEACHERS OF THE YEAR FOR THE CITY, FOR, FOR THE SWEETWATER SCHOOL DISTRICT.
SO I WOULD REALLY LIKE US TO RECONSIDER THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS ABOUT POLICY 1 0 7 AND THEY HAVE AN ADEQUATE TRAINING.
I'LL SAY THIS, THAT, UM, THE IMPLICATING ME IN A DISPUTE ABOUT AN ENDORSEMENT THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH ME.
SO STOP IMPLICATING OTHER PEOPLE.
JOSE, I HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH PAUL AND HIM, UH, ATTENDING THAT MEETING.
SO THAT, FIRST OF ALL, SECOND OF ALL, IF YOU GUYS HAVE ISSUES WITH PAUL, I HEARD NOTHING ABOUT HIS ACTUAL CONDUCT OF CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION.
THE SAME WAY YOU GUYS HAVE A RIGHT TO COME UP HERE AND USE YOUR FREEDOM OF SPEECH RIGHTS AND CRITICIZE US OR EVEN TELL LIES.
HE HAS THOSE SAME RIGHTS, EVEN THOUGH HE'S A TEACHER.
SO WE DON'T KNOW THE CONTEXT OF WHAT HE SAID.
I'VE NEVER HEARD ANY COMPLAINTS ABOUT HIM AS, UH, PERFORMING HIS JOB AS A CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSIONER.
I KNOW THAT HE'S A GREAT TEACHER.
I'VE TALKED TO, UH, HIS STUDENTS.
MY NIECE WAS A STUDENT OF HIS.
SO THOSE THAT ARE ACTUALLY FROM NATIONAL CITY WHO HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH PAUL, KNOW HIS HEART KNOWS HIS HARD WORK.
I AGREE THE TRAINING IS NEEDED FOR EVERYONE, BUT PLEASE, LET'S NOT BE HIP HYPOCRITICAL HERE AND DON'T CRITICIZE HIM FOR THE SAME TYPE OF BEHAVIOR YOU GUYS ARE DOING.
UH, ED RANO, COUNCIL MEMBER RODRIGUEZ BROUGHT UP THAT INCIDENT.
PAUL AND I WERE AT A NATIONAL CITY DEMOCRATIC CLUB.
THE INCIDENT WAS AS IT RELATES TO THE CITY.
I TELL YOU WHAT, I'M GONNA TAKE THE, I WROTE, BUT HE THREW CIVIL SERVICE, BUT HE, HE THREW IT OUT FIRST.
[9.1 Appointments: City Boards, Commissions, and Committees – Mayoral Appointment to the Board of Library Trustees and the Traffic Safety Committee.]
GET INTO APPOINTMENTS.UM, FIRST ONE IS APPOINTMENTS OF, UH, CITY BOARDS COMMITTEES.
THESE ARE, UH, MERRILL APPOINTMENTS.
WE HAVE AN ALTERNATE POSITION FOR THE, UH, BOARD OF LIBRARY TRUSTEES.
AND I'D LIKE TO, UH, NOMINATE RICARDO, UH, CARONA.
AND WE HAVE ONE POSITION, UH, PER TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMITTEE.
AND I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE, UH, LINCOLN HENDERSON.
SO I GUESS I SHOULD BE PUTTING IN MY MOTION HERE AS THAT IS A MOTION FOR ME THEN.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND DOES RAM MAYOR ANY OF THE APPLICANTS HERE BY ANY CHANCE? UM, I DON'T, NO, I DON'T SEE EITHER ONE OF 'EM HERE AT THE MOMENT.
BUT THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE 'CAUSE I SAY THOSE, THOSE, JUST CURIOUS.
THOSE WERE INTERVIEWED FROM OUT, UH, UH, OUTSIDE WHEN WE COME TO THE COUNCIL ONES, THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE INTERVIEWED IN, IN DURING COUNCIL? YEAH.
NO, JUST CURIOUS IF THEY WERE HERE.
UH, WITH THAT, UH, LIGHT COME UP THERE, UH, PLEASE VOTE, I THINK.
YEAH, THERE IT'S MOTION TO APPROVE UNANIMOUSLY.
[9.2 Appointments: City Boards, Commissions, and Committees – City Council Interview and Appointment for the Civil Service Commission.]
WE GO TO THE, UH, CITY COUNCIL INTERVIEW AND APPOINTMENT FOR CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION.AND WE HAVE, UM, WE HAVE ONE POSITION THAT IS OPEN, UH, THROUGH, UH, 2030.
AND, UH, WE HAD AN INDIVIDUAL WHO ACTUALLY APPLIED FOR SOMETHING ELSE BUT SAID THEY WERE AVAILABLE FOR OTHER THINGS.
SO, UM, DID NOT APPLY SPECIFICALLY FOR CIVIL SERVICE.
BUT IS, UH, DAVID, UH, MAGANA? IS HE HERE? DAVID? HE IS, UH, VIA ZOOM.
HUH? I'M SORRY? HE IS VIA ZOOM.
IF WE COULD BRING HIM UP THEN.
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UH, VIDEO IS SHOWING RIGHT NOW, SO.THERE HAS TO BE A
OR MAYBE I HAVE TO GET PERMISSION FROM IT, BUT I MEAN, YOU CAN HEAR ME, SO YES.
YEAH, WE CAN HEAR YOU VERY CAREFUL.
SO, UH, DAVID, GO AHEAD AND TALK SOMETHING ABOUT YOURSELF AND, UH, ALSO THEN, UH, LET US KNOW WHY YOU WOULD WANT TO, UH, HOW YOU FEEL THAT YOU'RE QUALIFIED AND HOW YOU WOULD, UH, FIT WITHIN THE CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION.
UH, SO OBVIOUSLY I ORIGINALLY APPLIED FOR, UH, PARKS, RECREATIONS, AND SENIOR COMMITTEE.
UH, AND THEN I WAS, UH, EMAILED AGAIN ABOUT THIS POSITION BEING AVAILABLE.
UM, I HAVE EXPERIENCE THROUGH THIS AS FAR AS WORKING IN THE, IN THE EQUAL OPPORTUNITY WORLD AND THE HUMAN RESOURCE COMMUNITY.
I HAVE A, A DEGREE IN HUMAN RESOURCES.
UH, SO WHEN I SAW THIS, I DECIDED IT WAS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, I DECIDED I COULD TAKE ON AND, UH, CONTINUE MY EXPERIENCE AND, UM, KEEP ON LEARNING AND DEVELOPING AND DOING MY PART IN NATIONAL CITY.
LIKE I SAID, I'M A NATIONAL CITY RESIDENT.
MY OLDEST IS, UH, SERVES IN THE US NAVY.
MY, UH, SO SHE'S OUT THERE ON DEPLOYMENT ACTUALLY RIGHT NOW.
HE GRADUATED FROM SWEETWATER HIGH SCHOOL AND HE NOW GOES TO CAL STATE NORTHRIDGE.
SO HE GOT ACCEPTED FROM THERE.
UH, AND I HAVE TWO SONS AND MY DAUGHTER GOES TO, UH, SWEETWATER RIGHT NOW, AND SHE'S ACTUALLY ON THE VARSITY CROSS COUNTRY TEAM.
AND THEN I HAVE TWO SONS THAT GO TO LAS PALAMAS ELEMENTARY.
SO I'M VERY, VERY INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY HERE.
I ALSO COACH BOXING, UH, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, RIGHT UP THE STREET.
I THINK YOU WERE THERE RON MORRISON THE OTHER DAY.
UH, WHEN I DID SOMETHING REALLY SPECIAL, I'M NOT GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT, BUT IT WAS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY AND, UH, SO I JUST, I I FELT LIKE THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT, THAT I COULD CONTINUE DOING AND, AND DO MY PART IN THE COMMUNITY.
UM, LET ME JUST SAY THAT, AND, AND I HAVE ADDRESSED THIS WITH THE STAFF.
WE HAVE A FORM THAT PEOPLE FILL OUT, BUT THEY CAN FILL OUT ONLINE AND THE ONLINE VERSION DOESN'T GIVE YOU NOWHERE NEAR THE INFORMATION THAT THE NORMAL FORM DOES.
SO WE'RE GONNA SEE IF WE CAN CORRECT THAT.
BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I DID NOTICE HERE, YOU GOT DOWN FOR OCCUPATION, NAVAL SERVICE FORCES, UH, PACIFIC COMMAND CLIMATE SPECIALIST AND OVERSEE EQUAL OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL OF NAVAL FORCES.
I JUST, WHEN I DID THAT, UH, REENLISTMENT THAT YOU WERE AT, UH, I TRANSFERRED OVER THAT JOB.
SO NOW I'M WORKING ON THE ENGINEERING SIDE.
AND SO NOW MY WORKLOAD AS FAR AS THAT IS, IS CHANGING, IS GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT LESS.
BUT I DID DO THAT FOR SIX YEARS FOR THE NAVY.
AND, UH, OVERSEE EQUAL OPPORTUNITY AND, UH, EVERY CASE FROM SEXUAL HARASSMENT TO, UH, UH, DISCRIMINATION, HARASSMENT, BULLYING, UM, AND IN VIOLATION USE OF MEDIA AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING? UH, YES, NO QUESTIONS.
UH, HE HAD ME AT EEOC AND THEN THAT HR EXPERIENCE IS LIKE, LITERALLY I THINK WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR FOR THAT CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION.
SO, UM, IF THERE'S NO PUBLIC COMMENTS, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO SUPPORT ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OR ANYTHING.
SECOND, I THINK WERE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT, UM, DAVID MARNA TO THE CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION.
THIS IS A COUNCIL APPOINTMENT.
CAN YOU USE YOUR BUTTONS PLEASE? HERE WE GO.
SEEING NO OTHER DISCUSSION, UH, PLEASE VOTE.
MOTION TO APPROVE A UNANIMOUSLY.
UH, DAVID, YOU STILL ON THERE? YES, I AM.
SO YOU'LL NEED TO COME IN AND YOU'LL NEED TO BE, UH, UH, SWORN IN BY THE, UH, THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
UH, YOU'LL ALSO NEED TO GET SOME, SOME INFORMATION, UH, ON THE, UH, UH, THE POSITION AND THE, THE JOB AND, AND, UH, SO THEY'LL BE ABLE TO DIRECT YOU TO THE DEPARTMENT AND, UH, GET, GET YOU SOME TRAINING AND GET YOU IN THERE.
AND THEN JUST A QUESTION, IF THE, THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER, IF, UH, WE CAN HAVE OUR NEW PIO KIND OF TO THE EXTENT THAT SHE'S AVAILABLE, UM, YOU KNOW, BE THERE IN PICTURES AND PROMOTE AS WELL ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIA, THAT'D BE GREAT.
AND LEMME GET FLIPPED BACK OVER HERE REAL QUICK.
SO THAT TAKES CARE OF ALL OF THOSE.
[10. CONSENT CALENDAR]
GO INTO CONSENT CALENDAR.THIS IS ITEMS 10, ONE THROUGH 10.
WASN'T THERE TRAFFIC? DID WE VOTE ON THE TRAFFIC? OH, OKAY.
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I'VE GOTTA LOOK AT ALL MY POLLS SLIP HERE FOR ALL OF THOSE.UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT, WE HAVE REQUEST TO PULL 10, 5, 10, 6, UM, LOOKS LIKE 10, 12, 10 13, 10, 14, 15 AND 16.
AND MAYOR, YOU RECEIVED A WRITTEN COMMENT ON 10.3 AND 10.7.
YOU RECEIVED WRITTEN COMMENT ONLY.
YOU DON'T NEED TO PULL THE ITEMS SPECIFICALLY.
UM, ANYTHING ELSE THAT ANYONE WOULD BE REQUESTING TO PULL? I AM NOT SEEING ANYTHING.
CAN WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE REMAINDER OF THE SO MOVE, MR. MAYOR? HUH? SO MOVE.
AND, UH, YOU WANT ME HAVE A SECOND TO ENUMERATE THAT? MAYOR? HUH? DO YOU WANT ME TO NAME THE 10.1, 10, DO TWO, 10 DO THREE.
10.4, 10.7, 10.8, 10.9, 10 POINT 10, 10 POINT 12.
ALRIGHT, DO I HAVE, OKAY, I SEE A SECOND ONE ON THERE NOW.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION A SECOND FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
SO YOU KNOW THE DISCUSSION, PLEASE VOTE.
MOTION TO APPROVE UNANIMOUSLY.
[10.5 Approval of an Agreement Amendment with Liebert Cassidy Whitmore for Legal Services in the Specialized Area of Labor Negotiations by Extending the Agreement to January 31, 2026.]
WE GO IS TO 10.5, THIS APPROVAL AGREEMENT, UH, WITH LIEBERT CASSIDY WHITMORE FOR LEGAL SERVICES IN THE SPECIALIZED AREA OF LABOR NEGOTIATIONS BY EXTENDING THE AGREEMENT TO JANUARY 31ST, 2026.AND THAT WAS PULLED BY MR. THOMAS REICH.
HOW DO YOU DO? I'D JUST LIKE TO LIEBERT CASSIDY WHITMORE, UH, LABOR NEGOTIATIONS.
I, I THINK THEY'RE VERY EXPENSIVE AND THEIR, THEIR ASSOCIATES.
THE LAWYER IS $295 AN HOUR AND THREE 70.
THE LABOR RELATIONS RESOURCE CONS CONSULT COUNCIL CONSULTING IS 305 HOURS, $305 AN HOUR, AND THE CLASSIFI CLASSIFICATION CONSULTANT IS $230 AN HOUR.
NOW, UH, MY PO I THINK MAYBE YOU COULD HIRE SOMEONE FROM, FROM NATIONAL CITY BECAUSE LIEBERT AND CASY IS AT 6 33 WEST CENTURY BOULEVARD IN LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA, WHICH IT'S A HIGH RENT DISTRICT.
CENTURY CITY'S A HIGH RENT DISTRICT FOR HIGH COMMERCIAL DISTRICT FOR, UH, FOR LA.
SO I THINK THAT THAT'S JUST THE POINT THAT I'M MAKING.
IF, IF I COULD, I I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE LABOR RELATIONS ATTORNEYS IN NATIONAL CITY.
WELL, NATIONAL CITY TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE.
ALRIGHT, UH, MAYOR, MOTION TO APPROVE 10.5.
DO I HAVE A SECOND, MR. RIKER? WE'RE ALMOST DONE WITH THIS ONE.
OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
UM, DON'T SEE ANOTHER DISCUSSION, PLEASE VOTE.
MOTION APPROVED BY FOUR TO ONE VOTE WITH VICE MAYOR BUSH VOTING NO.
[10.6 Approval of Creation of One (1) New Job Classification Titled Emergency Medical Services Coordinator, Amending the Management Salary Schedule, Adding 1.0 FTE to the Fire Department Authorized Position Count, and Authorizing a Related Budget Adjustment.]
GO TO 10.6, APPROVAL OF CREATION OF ONE NEW JOB CLASSIFICATION TITLED EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES COORDINATOR AMENDING THE MANAGEMENT SALARY SCHEDULE, ADDING ONE FTE TO THE, UH, FIRE DEPARTMENT AUTHORIZED POSITION COUNT AND AUTHORIZING A RELATED BUDGET ADJUSTMENT.MR. THOMAS REICH TO BE FOLLOWED BY MR. EDWARD NETTO.
UH, COUNSEL, I JUST WANNA, I AM POINT OUT THAT THIS IS NOT A $73,000 POSITION.
IT'S $103,000 POSITION THAT THE $73,000 IS COVERED BY THE GOVERNMENT, GOVERNMENT OR OUTSIDE GOVERNMENT.
AND THE OTHER AMOUNT WILL COME OUT
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FROM THE 103.BUT THAT'S, THAT'S THE POINT THAT I'M MAKING.
UH, I WAS THINKING THAT IF THIS, THE PERSON'S QUALIFIED, THE PERSON IS GOING TO GET THIS JOB IS A REGISTERED NURSE AND HAS EXPERIENCE IN THE EMERGENCY ROOM OR LIFE SUPPORT.
AND IT COULD BE THAT THIS IS A SUPERVISOR POSITION THAT HE'S WITH ALL HIS TRAINING, HE'S SITTING IN THE FIREHOUSE DIRECTING ALL THE PEOPLE, BUT, OKAY.
THIS IS, I I COULD, THIS IS AN IN ANTICIPATION.
AT OUR LAST MEETING, WE APPROVED TO MOVE AHEAD WITH A STUDY TO COME BACK IN FEBRUARY ABOUT US CONVERTING OVER TO BRINGING AMBULANCES IN-HOUSE.
AND, UH, BECAUSE AT THE END OF THIS YEAR WE, WE HAVE A, A JOINT AGREEMENT, UH, UH, A A, UH, AND THAT IS, THAT IS GOING AWAY THE END OF THIS YEAR.
AND SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PROVIDE SOME FORM OF SERVICES.
SO WE DON'T KNOW IF THE, WHEN THIS PERSON NEEDS TO BE HIRED OR ANYTHING ELSE ON, BUT THIS PUTS A HOLDING POSITION IN THERE IN CASE IT IS NEEDED.
AND, BUT WE WILL BE HAVING A REPORT COMING BACK ON THE ENTIRE, UH, AMBULANCE SERVICE AND EVERYTHING IN FEBRUARY.
AND, UH, MOTION TO APPROVE 10.6.
UH, SO YOU KNOW WHAT, DISCUSS, OH, WAIT A MINUTE.
WE ALSO HAVE, UH, EDO, SORRY, ANSWERED MY QUESTION.
UH, WE HAVE A MOTION A SECOND.
AND THIS IS A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF ADDITIONAL FUNDING APPROPRIATION FOR THE PURCHASE AND BUILD OUT OF A LINCO BEARCAT ARMORED VEHICLE.
WHERE, WHERE MR. CHAIRMAN? HUH? SCRIBE.
I SUBMITTED A WRITTEN REQUEST.
[10.7 Awarding a Contract to A. Vidovich Construction, Inc. for the Storm Water Pump Station Enhancements Project, CIP No. 25-11.]
RIGHT.DID YOU NOT COGNIZE SAW THOSE, BUT YOU WERE HERE IN THE AUDIENCE AND YOU DIDN'T NO, NO.
I SUBMITTED THE REQUEST AND ENDORSE WRITTEN COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE PUBLIC AND YOURSELF.
THE SIMPLE QUESTION WAS WRITTEN IN E SCRIBED.
YOU WERE WANTING THE ADDRESS? AND I DID ASK IT DURING MY BRIEFINGS.
UM, I THOUGHT IT WAS GETTING PULLED.
IT'D BE NICE IF WE COULD HEAR THAT ANSWER IN PUBLIC, PLEASE.
WE CAN GET THE ANSWER FOR YOU.
AND YOU WERE JUST ASKING, YOU WERE ASKING FOR THE ADDRESS WHERE IT WAS AT? YES.
DO YOU HAVE IT? OH YEAH, I SAW THAT.
DOES DOES STAFF HAVE IT? THAT'S WHY PEOPLE PULL ITEMS FOR MORE INFORMATION.
WELL, I KNOW IT, BUT THEY DO IT IN WRITING, WRITING ONGOING.
BUT, BUT IF PEOPLE DO IT IN WRITING AND YET THEY'RE HERE IN THE MEETING, SOMEBODY CAN, CAN SIT OUT THERE AND PULL EVERY ITEM ON THE AGENDA JUST TO JAM UP THE NO ONE'S DOING.
BUT, SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY IF YOU'RE HERE, JUST FILL OUT A SLIP.
IT'S THAT E SIMPLE OR YOU COULD SEE IT IN ADVANCE BECAUSE IT'S SUBMITTED IN WRITING AND MAKING THE POSITION MEETING MORE EFFICIENT.
SO IF YOU COULD TELL US OR HAVE STAFF ANSWER THAT QUESTION, WE, WE WILL GET YOU AN ADDRESS.
UH, WELL YOU ALSO DID THIS ON MY 10.3.
I CALLED FOR THE AMOUNT OF MONEY, MAYOR.
I DID, UM, ASK THESE QUESTIONS DURING MY BRIEFING.
AND I, UM, OUR, UM, ACTING DEPUTY CITY MANAGER, IS THAT THE TITLE NOW, MS. MARTHA DID PROVIDE VERY SUCCINCT ANSWERS TO THOSE QUESTIONS.
WOULD WE BE ABLE TO COVER THOSE ANSWERS RIGHT NOW? WE CAN.
JUST REAL QUICK, UM, MS. JUAREZ, IF YOU CAN PLEASE ANSWER THE QUESTION RELATED TO THE STORM DRAIN ADDRESS.
UM, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.
THE ANSWER TO THAT IS THE, UH, THE CONTRACT THAT'S BEING AWARDED IS TO DO SOME IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE NECESSARY TO KEEP THE STORM WATER PUMP STATION FUNCTIONING.
AND THAT IS LOCATED, UH, AT THE OFF RAMP OF THE NORTHBOUND I FIVE AT, UM, 24TH STREET MILE OF CAR'S WAY EXIT, JUST, UM, JUST TO THE WEST OF THE IN AND OUT THAT'S LOCATED THERE.
THERE'S NO OFFICIAL ADDRESS TO THE PUMP STATION ITSELF.
THAT IS THE, AND THEN THE QUESTION ON THE OTHER ITEM RELATES TO, UM,
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CONTRACTS FOR CONSULTING SERVICES FOR A VARIETY OF, UM, A LIST OF POTENTIAL CONSULTANTS THAT WE MAY REACH OUT TO IN THE COMING YEAR.UM, THE QUESTION IS, IS DO WE KNOW AN EXACT FIGURE? UH, CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT QUESTION? CERTAINLY.
UH, SO THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THESE EXISTING AGREEMENTS ARE WITH OUR ON-CALL CONSULTANTS FOR THE VARIETY OF, UH, SPECIALIZATIONS.
THESE AMENDMENTS ARE REALLY ONLY TO EXTEND THE TIMING AS WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PROCESS FOR THE, UH, REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS, UH, FOR EVALUATING A NEW SET OF AGREEMENTS WITH NEW ON-CALL CONSULTANTS.
THERE'S NO SPECIFIC COST ASSOCIATED WITH THESE, WITH THE EXTENDING THESE, UM, THE COSTS ASSOCIATED ARE EMBEDDED INTO THE CIP PROJECTS THEMSELVES.
SO MOST OF THESE, UM, ALL OF THESE, UH, ON-CALL AGREEMENTS THAT WE'RE EXTENDING, UM, ALREADY HAVE PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN BUDGETED, THAT HAVE SPECIFIC SERVICES, WHETHER PLANNING, DESIGN, CONSTRUCTION, MANAGEMENT SERVICES.
SO THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL COST TO THESE AMENDMENTS SPECIFICALLY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT INFORMATION.
AND MR. GOTCHU, I'M HAPPY TO SIT WITH YOU AND DISCUSS THESE ITEMS IN DETAIL IF YOU NEED TO.
[10.12 Awarding a Contract to A. Vidovich Construction, Inc. for the Storm Water Pump Station Enhancements Project, CIP No. 25-11.]
ON TO 10 12.THIS IS FOR THE, UH, BEARCAT ARMORED VEHICLE, EDWARD NETO AND MR. THOMAS REICH OR THOMAS REICH.
WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE YOU FIRST.
YOU'RE ALREADY UP ON YOUR FEET.
595,000 OR 495,000 FOR HIS ARMORED VEHICLE IS TOO, IS TOO, IS JUST, UH, TOO EXPENSIVE.
AND IT'S MADE, IT'S MADE IN PITTSFIELD, MASSACHUSETTS.
NOW, IT ISN'T COSTING US ANYTHING BUT 495,000 GIVEN TO A BODY SHOP HERE IN, GIVEN TO A BODY SHOP HERE IN NATIONAL CITY OR THAT, BUT I, THAT'S WHAT THIS IS THE, THIS IS THE THING THAT I, THIS I JUST, I 495,000, THAT'S AS MUCH AS FOR THE LOS PALMAS POOLS.
THE, THE OTHER PARK, THE, THE 24TH STREET TROLLEY STATION AND YOU, YOU APPROVED IT.
BUT I THINK OF THE POOR TAX, THE UNITED STATES TAXPAYERS ARE PUTTING OR SUPPORTING THIS PITTSFIELD COMPANY.
NO, I'D JUST LIKE A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THIS.
UH, I LIKE IT THAT, THAT THERE'S ASSET FORFEITURE FUNDS DOESN'T COME OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND.
UM, BUT I ALSO LIKE TO FIND OUT MORE ABOUT WHERE THE FUND'S COMING FROM.
IS IT THE VEHICLE REPLACEMENT FUND? I THOUGHT WE HAD A VEHICLE REPLACEMENT FUND AND AT ONE TIME, DIDN'T WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT, UM, AS I RECALL, WASN'T THERE SOMETHING THAT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE A, A, A, A CONTRIBUTION TO THAT FUND? AND SO I'D LIKE A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THIS.
I MEAN, THIS IS, THIS DOES NOT INVOLVE VEHICLE, UM, UH, REPLACEMENT FUND.
UH, THIS WAS BEING PAID FROM OUTSIDE AND SO IT WAS NATIONAL CITY'S TURN TO RECEIVE ONE OF THESE VEHICLES.
AND SO THE AMOUNT WAS, UH, WAS SET FORWARD.
THE PROBLEM IS, IS TAKE A COUPLE YEARS FOR THAT ALL TO BE PROCESSED IN THAT TIME THE PRICES WENT UP SO THAT WE HAD THE ORIGINAL AMOUNT AND THEY COME BACK AND SAID, WELL, YEAH, BUT THAT WAS JUST LIKE ANYTHING ELSE.
YOU BUY A CAR TODAY, IT'S MORE THAN THE CAR WAS MODELED TWO YEARS AGO.
AND, UH, SAME THING WITH THIS.
SO THEY'RE USING ASSET FORFEITURE FUNDS TO MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE.
SO NONE OF THE ORIGINAL MONEY OR NONE OF THE MONEY THAT IS BEING MADE UP TO MAKE UP THAT DIFFERENCE IS COMING OUTTA GENERAL FUND.
UH, SO WITH THAT, AND, AND, AND TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, IF SOMEONE TRIED TO MAKE A PROTOTYPE START FROM SCRATCH AND MAKE ONE OF THOSE LOCAL, IT WOULD PROBABLY, THAT PROTOTYPE WOULD PROBABLY BE WELL OVER $2 MILLION TO MAKE, JUST TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
UM, WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE COUNCIL'S PLEASURE, MR. MAYOR? MOVE DUCK.
OKAY, WE PUSHING OUR BUTTONS FOR MOTION FOR SECOND.
CAN I SAY A QUICK COMMENT ABOUT THIS? ABSOLUTELY.
UM, THANK YOU FOR THE COMMUNITY CONCERNS ABOUT THIS.
I ALSO HAD A, A EXTENDED BRIEFING WITH OUR, UH, ACTING CITY MANAGER, UM, ABOUT THE ITEM.
AND UM, THE VEHICLE THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IS, IS NEARLY 20 YEARS OLD.
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ASK, UH, WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME OR WHAT ARE SOME OF THE TIMES THAT WE UTILIZE A VEHICLE LIKE THIS? CAN YOU JUST MENTION IT? REALLY? BRIEF? CHIEF ACTING CITY MANAGER.SO THE, THIS VEHICLE, WE DO HAVE ONE, IF YOU GUYS HAVE EVER GONE OUT TO LIKE NATIONAL NIGHT OUT, WE HIGHLIGHT IT AND IT'S A REALLY, A RESCUE VEHICLE THAT WE USE BOTH IN THE PATROL AREA.
IF THERE'S A, A CRITICAL INCIDENT, WE USE IT.
THE SWAT TEAM USES IT AS WELL.
UM, AND IT'S, SINCE IT'S A UI FUND, UM, IT CAN BE USED BY OTHER AGENCIES.
SO ANY OTHER AGENCY COULD CALL US AND SAY, HEY, WE, WE NEED A A, A ARMORED VEHICLE.
CAN YOU PLEASE ALLOW US TO USE IT? AND WE'VE DONE THAT.
WE'VE WORKED WITH OTHER AGENCIES.
SO IT, IT'S REALLY A, A TO ME IT'S A RESCUE VEHICLE THAT WE NEED IN THE COMMUNITY AND, AND THE ONE THAT WE HAVE IS GETTING UP DURING AGE.
SO IT'S, IT'S TIME TO GET A NEW ONE.
AND I, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT UI GRANT WAS PROVIDED A FEW YEARS AGO.
UH, BUT THE PRICE HAS CHANGED A LITTLE BIT RIGHT.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO CHALLENGE SOME OF THE UI FUNDS TO BE A LITTLE LARGER TO COVER THE FULL EXPENSES FOR THE VEHICLES THAT WE NEED HERE IN NATIONAL CITY.
ALRIGHT, WE DO HAVE MOTION A SECOND.
SEEING NO OTHER, UH, COMMENTS OR ANYTHING.
[10.13 Recognized Obligations Payment Schedule for Fiscal Year 2026-27 (ROPS 26-27) and Associated Administrative Budget (SUCCESSOR AGENCY)]
GO TO, UH, 10 13.THIS IS REC RECOGNIZED OBLIGATIONS PAYMENT SCHEDULED FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 26 27.
IT'S CALLED THE ROPS, UM, 26 27.
AND ASSOCIATED ADMINISTRATIVE BUDGET FOR THE SUCCESSOR AGENCY.
AND THIS ONE IS AT RUNO ROMEO, I GUESS A GUY WHO'S BEEN ACCUSED OF BEING SORT OF A VIOLENT PERSON.
I TALK ABOUT NUMBERS,
ANYWAY, WHAT I WANT TO SAY IS, UH, I'M LOOKING AT THIS, I'M LOOKING AT THE FOOTNOTES AND I'M WONDERING, UH, IS THIS, I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT IT, WHETHER IT'S BOND RELATED AND IF THE INTEREST IS INCLUDED AND WHETHER WE HAVE THE, UM, CONSIDERING OUR RESERVE BALANCES, IS THERE ANY RISK IF THERE IS, UM, ANY TYPE OF BOND ISSUE? AND IF THAT, AND IF THOSE INTERESTS ARE ADJUSTED AND IF POSSIBLY, UH, IS THERE ANY O OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, REFINANCE THAT IF INTEREST RATES SHOULD GO BELOW THAT? THOSE ARE THE TYPE OF QUESTIONS I HAVE.
I'M SURE WE CAN LOOK OVER AT BRUCE, BUT THIS IS, THIS IS THE WINDING DOWN OF THE OH, UH, REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY.
IT IS WINDING DOWN THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY.
SO THOSE PROCEEDS THAT WE RECEIVE FROM THE COUNTY ARE SEPARATE PROPERTY TAX, TOTALLY UNRELATED TO THE GENERAL FUND.
UM, IF THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY OF INTEREST RATES ON BONDS WERE TO DROP, WE COULD REFINANCE THE BONDS THAT ARE ALREADY IN THERE.
UM, I BELIEVE WE'VE DONE THAT IN THE PAST IN PRIOR YEARS, BUT AT THIS TIME WE'RE REALLY WINDING DOWN.
AND I THINK THE FINAL ROTHS PAYMENT WILL BE ROUGHLY AROUND 2032, I BELIEVE.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO THE VERY END.
SO AT THIS POINT, IT REALLY WOULDN'T BE FEASIBLE UNLESS INTEREST RATES ON BONDS REALLY BOTTOMED DOWN.
AND, UM, THESE BASICALLY, UH, WE REALLY DON'T HAVE A CHOICE ON THESE, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
UM, WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE, MR. MAYOR? MOTION TO APPROVE.
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TO ITEMS. I'M JUST GONNA TAKE 14 AND 15 TOGETHER 'CAUSE UH, THIS IS GONNA BE THE MR. THOMAS REICH SHOW.AND, UH, THIS IS ON WARRANT REGISTRY NUMBER 16 AND NUMBER 17.
WHY DON'T YOU TAKE BOTH OF 'EM TOGETHER? HOW'S THAT? JUST REPEATING.
REPEATING THE, UH, UH, WARRANT REGISTER FOR THIS TWO WEEKS FOR THE, WHICH I FOUND, WHICH I FOUND, UH, WHICH, WHICH I FOUND I FOUND INTERESTING.
AND IN, UH, FOR ENGINEERING AND PUBLIC WORKS.
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MANHOLE HOOK FOR $360.HUMAN RESOURCES, WORKMAN'S COMPENSATION CLAIMS ADMINISTRATION, $9,100 FOR VORTEX INDUSTRIES CITYWIDE REPAIR.
PAYMENT FOR DELIVERY OF SPANISH CLASS $1,500.
RADIO, RADIO, CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL, CHILD SEXUAL ASSAULT EXAMS, $1,900.
CITY ATTORNEY DEVANEY PAID LEGAL SERVICES, $17,000.
KIMLEY HO KIMLEY AND HORN BICYCLE W WAY FINDING SIGNAGE.
$2,200 LOCAL EQUIPMENT STREET SWEEPER BROOM LIFT, $2,500.
DESERT AUTO GROUP INTERCEPTORS $172,000 FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
GARLAND ROOFING MATERIALS FOR THE FIRE STATION.
608,000 ENTERPRISE ENTERPRISE FREIGHT MANAGEMENT.
AND 26,000 FOR FOR FISCAL YEAR 26 FOR 20 FOR FISCAL YEAR 26.
HOW HOUSING ANDERSON RABBIT APPRAISAL FOR APPRAISAL FOR 23RD, FOR 20 WEST, 23RD STREET, AND 2300 CLEVELAND.
CONSULTING SERVICES FOR OLIVER FOR FOR OWNERSHIP.
96,000, UH, IN THE IT AT AND T DATA PHONES.
31,000 GEOS SYNTEX CLEANUP FOR PLAZA AND EUCLID.
$4,800 REPLACEMENT FOR THE REPLACEMENT DOOR FOR STATION 31 71.
A HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR PROJECT FRANK ADMINISTRATION.
$11,000 SAN DIEGO GAS ELECTRIC FOR STREETLIGHTS.
UH, CHIN RYAN ASSOCIATES, 21ST STREET TRANSIT CENTER, 277,000 BOOK BOOK MODULAR LAS PALMAS POOLS 418,000, I GUESS.
UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT.
AND, UH, THAT IS FOR ITEMS 14 AND, UH, 15.
I'M GONNA, THERE'S ONE MORE EXPENDITURE.
UH, MR. EDWARD NETO, WHILE HE'S COMING UP, LET JUST GO AHEAD AND COME ON UP.
UH, WHILE HE'S COMING UP, LEMME JUST SAY, MY, UH, WIFE HAS A, UH, BRAND NEW CAR AND LIGHT CAME ON, TOOK IT DOWN, AND IT'S A HYBRID, SO IT USES VERY LITTLE GAS, BRAND NEW, LOW MILEAGE.
TOOK IT DOWN AND THEY SAID THAT THEY NEED TO DRAIN THE, UH, GAS OUTTA THE GAS TANK.
AND THEY WANNA CHARGE $1,500 FOR THAT.
UM, SO HERE'S AN EXPENDITURE ON THIS, UH, 16TH COUNCIL MEMBER FOR, UM, I, I BELIEVE THIS IS YAMANI FOR, UM, DISTRICT THREE BANNERS, $8,213 AND 64 CENTS.
UH, NOW I ORIGINALLY STARTED THIS CONVERSATION AT THE VERY BEGINNING.
THE FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS IS TO SAY, IS IT, IS IT REASONABLE AND IS IT NECESSARY? NOW, THIS IS GENERAL FUND MONIES.
SO THERE'S A, WE'RE TAKING IT.
I THINK PEOPLE ARE ABUSING THAT.
THESE AREN'T FEDERAL FUNDS AND STRETCHING THE LIMITS ON WHAT WE CAN, UH, USE THE MONEY FOR GENERAL FUND MONIES FOR AND
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WITH CITY'S STAFF'S, UH, OVERSIGHT, WHICH SURPRISES ME.SO MY QUESTION IS, IS THIS COST REASONABLE AND NECESSARY? $8,213? I LIKE TO HEAR AN EX EXPLANATION.
THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS, UH, UNIFORMS HERE.
WHAT WAS IT? UNIFORMS LIKE? AND, AND, AND THEN THERE WAS CORRECTIONS FOR NAMING OF UNIFORMS. IS THAT CLOSE TO A THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR UNIFORMS OR, OR, OR, OR SOME SORT OF, UH, SPELLINGS.
MAYBE I CAN BE AS SIMPLE AS THAT.
SO WE HAVE WARRANT REGISTRIES NUMBER 1617 AND, UH, THAT WAS ON THE EXPENDITURE REPORT.
SO WE HAVE, UM, 14, 15, AND 16.
WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE, MR. CHAIR? MOVE FOR APPROVAL.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
OKAY, I'LL SECOND GET THAT IN THERE.
UH, SEEING NO DISCUSSION, PLEASE VOTE.
[11.1 Public Hearing and Introduction of an Ordinance Adopting the 2025 California Fire Code and the Appendices Thereto, Adopting the National Fire Protection Association Standards, and Amending Chapter 15.28 of the National City Municipal Code.]
HEARINGS AND OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING, 11.1 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND INTRODUCTION OF AN ORDINANCE ADOPTING THE 2025 CALIFORNIA FIRE CODE AND APPENDIX IS THERE TOO.ADOPTING THE NATIONAL FIRE PROTECTION ASSOCIATION STANDARDS AND AMENDING CHAPTERS 15 POINT, UH, 28 OF THE NATIONAL CITY MUNICIPAL CODE AND STAFF.
THIS IS OUR, UH, ANNUAL EVERY THREE YEAR CODE ADOPTION.
UH, YOU KNOW, WE BROUGHT, I THINK LAST MONTH, UH, BUILDING CODE, ELECTRIC CODE, RESIDENTIAL CODE, SO FORTH CAME.
THIS IS THE FIRE CODE ADOPTION AND THE UPDATED CODE CHANGES THAT WOULD BE RELATED IN OUR MUNICIPAL CODE.
THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT UNLESS YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.
SO IT'S JUST BRINGING EVERYTHING BASICALLY IN LINE? YEAH.
IT'S THE STANDARD CODES WE ADOPT EVERY THREE YEARS WHEN THEY COME OUT.
OKAY, SO THAT IS THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I DO NOT HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKERS ON THIS ONE.
AND SO IF THAT IS THE CASE, UNLESS THERE IS DIRECT QUESTIONS ON THE PRESENTATION, I'D ASK FOR, UH, TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
DO I HAVE A SECOND TO OSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? YOU JUST PUSH YOUR BUTTON AGAIN.
HUH? I'LL MAKE A SECOND TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.
WE'RE ALL GETTING TIRED HERE, FOLKS.
UH, WITH THAT, UH, THIS IS CLOSED OF PUBLIC HEARING.
AND THEN, UH, WE HAVE A, CAN WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? MOVE TO ADOPT MR. CHAIR.
OR THAT, 'CAUSE THIS IS FOR INTRODUCTION I GUESS.
AND, UH, SO THIS IS PUBLIC HEARING AND INTRODUCTION.
SO THIS IS A MOTION TO INTRODUCE, UH, IF YOU HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, UH, PLEASE VOTE.
11.2 HAS BEEN PULLED AND WILL BE HEARD ON JANUARY THE 20TH.
[11.3 Public Hearing – Appeal of a Planning Commission Denial of a Conditional Use Permit for a Proposed Recycling Center to be Located at 1240 East Plaza Boulevard.]
WE GO TO PUBLIC HEARING ON 11.3.THIS IS APPEAL OF A PLANNING COMMISSION DENIAL OF A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT OF A PROPOSED RECYCLING CENTER TO BE LOCATED AT 1240 EAST PLAZA BOULEVARD.
GOOD EVENING AGAIN, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, STAFF PUBLIC, UH, MARTIN READER, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
AND JUST, UH, TO LET YOU KNOW ABOUT 11.2.
BUT BEFORE WE GET INTO THIS, COULD WE GET DISCLOSURES? OH, OKAY.
WE CAN HAVE DEFINITELY, WE SHOULD DO DISCLOSURES.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING TO DISCLOSE? YES, I SPOKE TO THE APPLICANT BY PHONE THIS MORNING.
UH, MAYOR, I ALSO HAD A PHONE CALL WITH THE APPLICANT ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO.
ALRIGHT, OVER HERE, PHONE CALL TO THE APPLICANT AND AN EMAIL RECEIVED.
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EMAIL AND PHONE CALL WITH THE APPLICANT, UH, EARLIER TODAY.UH, YEAH, AND I HAD THE APPLICANT, UH, COME TO MY OFFICE ABOUT THREE WEEKS AGO OR SO, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO, UM, WITH THAT THEN, AND, UH, SO THIS IS THE, AN APPEAL OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION DENIAL OF A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
SO WITH STAFF, HELLO AGAIN, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, STAFF FOR THE PUBLIC, UH, MARTIN LEADER, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
AND JUST GOING BACK TO 11.2 REAL QUICK, I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW, WE WILL SEND OUT A BRAND NEW PUBLIC NOTICE FOR THAT ONE IN JANUARY SO EVERYONE IS STILL AWARE.
UH, MOVING ON TO THE, THE PROJECT AT HAND.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION HEARD THE CUP REQUEST BACK IN OCTOBER AND VOTED TO DENY THE REQUEST FOR THE RECYCLING CENTER BEHIND, UH, THE, THE SHOPPING CENTER THERE AT, UH, BAY PLAZA.
AND THE FINDING FOR DENIAL THAT WAS IN THE RESOLUTION WAS THAT THE, IT WOULD BE A NUISANCE OR INJU INJURIOUS OR DETRIMENTAL TO THE PUBLIC INTEREST.
MOST OF THE DISCUSSION WAS ON TRAFFIC, BUT THERE WAS ALSO ONE PERSON FROM THE PUBLIC WHO LIVED TO THE, UH, SOUTH THAT WAS CONCERNED ABOUT, UH, CURRENT EFFECTS OR CURRENT ISSUES THAT WERE HAPPENING BEHIND THAT AREA OF, OF THAT SHOPPING CENTER, WHICH WOULD NOT NECESSARILY BE RELATED TO ANY, UH, ANY OF THIS THAT WAS PROPOSED, BUT THAT WAS ALL TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT WITH REGARD TO THE DENIAL.
SO THE APPLICANT DID FILE A, A APPEAL REQUEST FOLLOWING THAT DECISION BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AND THEREFORE WE'LL BE MAKING A QUICK PRESENTATION AND THEN WE'LL BE LETTING THE, THE APPLICANT AS THE APPELLANT MAKE THEIR PRESENTATION AS WELL.
SO AGAIN, WE'RE DEALING WITH THE, THE SOUTH BAY PLAZA HERE, UH, WHERE, UH, AN AVENUE COMES DOWN FROM, FROM THE SOUTH, UH, THERE IS A SORT OF A, A JUNCTION THERE AND, AND BEHIND WHAT'S WHERE THE UPS STORE, ET CETERA.
THERE IS AN AREA WHERE, UH, IT'S A, A PARKING LOT WITH, UH, SEVERAL SPACES ON A TRASH ENCLOSURE.
AND THE APPLICANT WISHES TO PUT, UH, THE, UH, CONTAINERS IN THAT LOCATION THAT WOULD SERVE TO FUNCTION AS A RECYCLING CENTER.
UH, THE AREA IS MOSTLY COMMERCIAL IN THIS AREA, THOUGH.
THERE IS RESIDENTIAL UP THE HILL TO THE SOUTH.
UH, SMART AND FINAL IS TO THE NORTH AND NO WEST.
THAT'S, UH, REALLY THE, THE CRUX OF THE MATTER HERE.
THEY ARE THE, UH, STORE THAT CREATES A CONVENIENT ZONE IN THIS, IN THIS AREA, WHICH IS, WHICH WE WILL, UH, TALK MORE ABOUT IN, IN CURRENT SLIDES.
HERE'S A COUPLE OF SITE PHOTOS SHOWING BEHIND THE AREA OF SMART AND FINAL, IN PARTICULAR WHERE YOU CAN SEE THE, THE ELECTRICAL BOX TO THE LEFT, THAT'S ROUGHLY THE AREA JUST PAST THERE.
WHERE THE CONTAINERS WOULD BE.
IT WOULD BE A MOBILE RECYCLING CENTER, WHICH IN THE CODE REQUIRES A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
HENCE THE APPLICATION TWO 18 BY 18 FOOT SIZED CONTAINERS AND ONE EIGHT BY FIVE.
THE PROPOSAL, THE PROPOSED HOURS ARE NINE TO FIVE.
MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY, THE OPERATOR WOULD BE ON SITE AT ALL TIMES AND THE FACILITY WOULD BE LOCKED AT NIGHT.
SO PAYMENTS WOULD BE PROVIDED IN CASH BY THE OPERATORS OF THE FACILITIES TO CUSTOMERS THAT, UH, STOP BY.
SO AGAIN, HERE'S A, IS A ROUGH AREA, UH, SHOWING THE, THE LOCATION.
SO THERE ARE FOUR PARK OR THREE PARKING SPACES RATHER NEXT TO THE TRASH ENCLOSURE, WHICH WOULD REMAIN AND STILL BE ACCESSIBLE AND MOST LIKELY USED BY CUSTOMERS IF THEY WERE TO COME BY.
SO THE CONTAINERS ARE UP AGAINST THE WALL.
THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS FOR FIRE CODE, BUILDING CODE, ET CETERA TO MAKE SURE APPROPRIATE, UM, DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS ARE MAINTAINED, UH, GOING INTO CONVENIENCE ZONE.
SO ANY, UM, SUPERMARKET OR OR MARKET STORE, ET CETERA, THAT HAS MORE THAN $2 MILLION OF SALES PER YEAR AND THAT SELLS BEVERAGES AND RECYCLABLE CONTAINERS IS REQUIRED TO HAVE, OR IT'S CALLED A CONVENIENCE ZONE.
AND THERE'S REQUIRED ACCESS TO A RECYCLING FACILITY WITHIN A ONE MILE RADIUS OF THAT PROJECT.
UH, IN THIS CASE, THERE ARE 10 CONVENIENCE ZONES IN THE CITY.
THE, THERE IS A, A RECYCLING CENTER ON SWEETWATER ROAD THAT TAKES CARE OF, I BELIEVE, THREE OF THEM.
AND WE ALSO HAVE AN EXEMPT, EXEMPT ONE AS WELL.
SO 30TH STREET IS MORE THAN A MILE FROM THIS LOCATION.
SO THIS, THIS ONE IN PARTICULAR, PLUS OTHERS, I'LL SHOW YOU IN A MOMENT.
UH, ARE UNSERVED CONVENIENCE ZONES IN THAT THERE IS NO CURRENT RECYCLING CENTER WITHIN A MILE OF THAT, THAT TENDS TO BE AN ISSUE BECAUSE IF THERE IS NONE, THEN THE STORE IS REQUIRED TO EITHER ACCEPT RECYCLABLES ON SITE OR THEY HAVE TO PAY A HUNDRED DOLLARS A DAY TO THE STATE, UH, UNTIL THEY, THERE IS A, A FACILITY LOCATED THERE.
SO THERE ARE STANDARDS IN THE CODE REGARDING SIZE, HOW FAR AWAY FROM RESIDENTIAL ZONES DOES NOT OBSTRUCT, UH, CIRCULATION EITHER PEDESTRIAN OR VEHICULAR.
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TYPE OF PRODUCTS THAT ARE TO BE RECYCLED, THE PROPOSAL IS IN, IS CONSISTENT WITH THOSE.WE DID SEND THIS OUT FOR, UH, COMMENTS FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
THERE WERE CONCERNS OVER TRAFFIC, CRIME AND TRASH, UH, NOTED BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
BUT WE HAVE INCLUDED CONDITIONS IN THE ORIGINAL APPROVAL RESOLUTION, UH, TO OFFSET THOSE ISSUES.
AND, UH, THOSE ARE NOTED THERE.
AS FAR AS TRAFFIC IS CONCERNED, THIS TYPE OF USE IS NOT, DOES NOT GENERATE TRAFFIC ACCORDING TO ANY, ANY, UH, METHODS OR MODELS THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT.
IT'S ALREADY A SHOPPING CENTER.
MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE COMING HERE WOULD ALSO BE, UH, SHOPPING IN THE CENTER NEARBY.
UH, THE AREA WOULD BE TEMPORARILY CONNED OR CHAINED OFF, BUT THAT'S ONLY TO AN AREA WITH THREE PARKING SPACES IN IT.
SO IT WOULD NOT OBSTRUCT, UH, ANY CIRCULATION ANYWHERE ELSE.
THE EMPLOYEE IS ALSO GONNA MAKE SURE THAT THE, THE EMPLOYEES WILL BE ON SITE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE, THE CIRCULATION MOVES ACCORDINGLY.
UH, NOISE WAS ALSO TALKED ABOUT THERE ARE CON, UH, CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL RELATED TO THAT.
THE CLOSEST RESIDE IS, UH, MORE THAN 50 FEET AWAY.
AND, AND THIS IS A POTENTIAL GRADE CHANGE IN THIS, IN THIS LOCATION.
UH, THERE WILL BE DAYTIME HOURS.
THERE WOULD BE NO POWER DRIVEN EQUIPMENT THAT WOULD INCREASE NOISE IN THE AREA.
IT WAS NOT SUBJECT TO CQA OR IT WAS SUBJECT, BUT IT WAS CONSIDERED EXEMPT 'CAUSE IT'S A, UH, EXISTING FACILITY OR SMALL ENOUGH TO BE CONSIDERED A EXISTING FACILITY.
CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL RELATED TO BUILDING, ENGINEERING, FIRE COMMENTS, AS WELL AS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT COMMENTS AND OF COURSE, COMPLIANCE WITH THE LAND USE CODE.
SO IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND USE CODE.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND DENIAL.
THE PLANNING STAFF DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO THE, THE, THE PLANNING COMMISSION, BUT THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S REPORT.
SO THE OPTIONS AFTER HEARING THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION OR THE APPELLANT'S PRESENTATION ARE TO EITHER AFFIRM THE APPELLANT'S APPEAL, WHICH WOULD MEAN OVERTURNING THE PLANNING COMMISSION DECISION AND APPROVING THIS PROJECT TO DENY THE APPEAL AND UPHOLD THE PLANNING COMMISSION DENIAL, UH, TO CONTINUE THE ITEM IF HER SPECIFIC INFORMATION AS NEEDED BY THE COUNCIL TO MAKE A DECISION AND AGAINST STAFF, DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND CONTINUES TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL IN THIS CASE.
SO THAT AGAIN, CONCLUDES STAFF SUPPORT AND THE APPLICANT AS THE APPELLANT IS, UH, GONNA GIVE A PRESENTATION ALSO.
SO, ALRIGHT, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
STAFF BEFORE WE HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT.
UH, THANK YOU, DIRECTOR READER.
UH, YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT SMART AND FINAL HAVING TO PAY A HUNDRED DOLLARS A DAY BECAUSE THEY DON'T PROVIDE THIS SERVICE ALREADY.
IF IT'S A CONVENIENT ZONE, WHICH IS THE $2 MILLION STORE SAVE, UH, THAT BEING ONE OF THEM, THEY ARE REQUIRED TO EITHER TAKE IN RECYCLABLES ON SITE, WHICH THEY MAY OR MAY NOT BE DOING, UH, INSIDE THE STORE, OR THEY HAVE TO PAY A HUNDRED DOLLARS A DAY UNTIL, AND THEY PAY THAT TO THE STATE.
AND IS THAT WHAT THEY'RE DOING RIGHT NOW? UH, ACTUALLY I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.
THE APPLICANT MAY KNOW THAT, BUT THOSE ARE THE OPTIONS AVAILABLE TO THEM.
BUT EITHER WAY, IT'S A COST TO THE STORE AND SO THIS PROJECT IS IN CONJUNCTION WITH SMART AND FINAL, OR IT'S COMPLETELY APART.
IT'S, IT'S INDEPENDENT, BUT IT IS, IT'S INDEPENDENT.
IT WOULD BE A CONVENIENT ZONE THAT HAPPENS TO BE SMART AND FINAL AND WOULD ALSO COVER I, I BELIEVE, SIX OTHER, UH, FACILITIES.
I KNOW THAT THE APPLICANT HAS A MAP SHOWING THAT, BUT THE, OKAY.
HI, GOOD EVENING, UH, MAYORS, VICE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL AND STAFF, AND THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE CHANCE TO HEAR US TODAY.
AND ALSO THANK YOU TO MARTIN FOR HIS PRESENTATION.
MY NAME'S ANTHONY JUNIOR, AND THIS IS MY DAD, ANTHONY.
WE'RE HERE TODAY TO PROPOSE A CRV CENTER FOR NATIONAL CITY THAT WAS DENIED BY THE PLANET COMMISSION ON AFFORDED TO VOTE.
UH, WE WANT TO CLEAR UP ANY MISUNDERSTANDINGS AND SHOW THAT WE'RE EXPERIENCED RESPONSIBLE RECYCLING CENTER OPERATORS WITH A REPUTATION OF CLEAN, SAFE, AND FRIENDLY RECYCLING CENTERS IN NATIONAL CITY.
SO WE'RE, THIS IS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR, SORRY, I TOUCHING.
SO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OURSELVES ARE WELL ESTABLISHED IN SAN DIEGO.
UH, WE'RE A FAMILY OWNED AND OPERATED BUSINESS.
WE HAVE OVER 25 YEARS OF SERVING SAN DIEGO COMMUNITIES.
MY DAD HAS BEEN IN THE BUSINESS HIMSELF SINCE THE NINETIES, AND I GREW UP IN THE BUSINESS AND LEARNED THE OPERATION FIRSTHAND.
OUR FAMILY IS FROM THE SOUTH BAY.
MY DAD WENT TO ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IN NATIONAL CITY AND WAS A DELIVERY BOY FOR THE STAR NEWS.
I MYSELF WORKED FOR NATIONAL IN NATIONAL CITY, ALSO IN, UH, PLAZA BONITA.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE, UH, WE KNOW THIS AREA PRETTY WELL.
UH, I RECEIVED MY BACHELOR'S IN BUSINESS IN 2022
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WITH THE SUPPORT OF MY DAD, AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER TO CONTINUE GROWING THIS FAMILY BUSINESS.SO OUR CURRENT LOCATIONS ARE, THE FIRST ONE IS GONNA BE SAN DIEGO, CRV CENTER OFF THE 94 FREEWAY.
WE'VE BEEN HERE FOR ABOUT 15 YEARS.
THE NEXT ONE IS OFF THE 1 25 IN EAST SAN DIEGO, WHICH, UH, WE'VE BEEN THERE FOR ABOUT 11 YEARS.
AND THEN OUR NEWEST IS CORONA AUTO, CRV CENTER IN SOUTH SAN DIEGO, WHICH WE'VE BEEN THERE SINCE JANUARY OF THIS YEAR.
SO OUR GOAL IS TO PROVIDE NATIONAL CITY RESIDENTS WITH A CLEAN, SAFE, AND CONVENIENT WAY TO REDEEM THEIR CRV CONTAINERS.
SO, A CRV CENTER, HOW IT WORKS IS CUSTOMERS WILL BRING THEIR CANS AND BOTTLES ALREADY SORTED, USUALLY IN PLASTIC BAGS, AND WE HELP THEM UNLOAD IT INTO OUR RECEPTACLES.
UH, THE STAFF THEN WEIGHS THIS MATERIAL AND PAYS THE CUSTOMERS BASED ON STATE SET RATES.
THE MATERIALS ARE THEN PLACED TO ROLL OFF CONTAINERS AND PICKED UP REGULARLY BY ROLL OFF TRUCKS.
SO, WASHINGTON NATIONAL CITY HAVE A CRV CENTER.
THIS PROVIDES A MUCH NEEDED COMMUNITY SERVICE.
NATIONAL CITY CURRENTLY DOESN'T HAVE ITS OWN RECYCLING CENTER.
IT'S IMPORTANT FOR SENIORS, WORKING FAMILIES, STUDENTS, AND PEOPLE WHO ARE ON FIXED INCOMES AND RELY ON CRV REFUNDS FOR SOME EXTRA CASH.
LOCAL CRE REFUNDS ARE USUALLY SPENT RIGHT AWAY IN NEARBY STORES, GAS STATIONS AND RESTAURANTS.
ON AVERAGE, WE HAND OUT ABOUT $1,500 AT OUR ESTABLISHED LOCATIONS IS WHEN IT GOES DIRECTLY BACK INTO THE LOCAL COMMUNITY.
WE PLAN TO TRAIN AND HIRE NATIONAL CITY RESIDENTS.
WE HAVE MANY EMPLOYEES WHO HAVE BEEN WITH US FOR OVER 10 YEARS, AND WE HOPE TO FIND MORE LIKE THIS IN NATIONAL CITY.
IT ALSO PROMOTES ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY.
IT INCENTIVIZES PEOPLE TO CARE ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT BY PAYING THEM TO RECYCLE.
THIS LEADS TO FEWER PEOPLE, UH, LITTERING THEIR CANS IN BOTTLES, AND IT ALSO MOTIVATES OTHERS TO PICK UP THOSE CANS AND BOTTLES, WHICH BOTH HELP KEEP THE PUBLIC SPACES CLEANER.
AND LIKE MAR MENTIONED, UM, THIS HELPS THE CITY AND THE STORES MEET STATE COMPLIANCE WITH CAL RECYCLE.
NATIONAL CITY CURRENTLY HAS SEVEN UNSERVED ZONES, MEANING THAT THE SEVEN MAJOR GROCERY STORES ARE NOT, DO NOT HAVE A RECYCLING CENTER WITHIN A MILE.
THIS INCLUDES THE MAJOR GROCERY STORES AND MANY OF THE SMALL, LOCAL AND CONVENIENCE STORES THAT ARE ALSO REQUIRED TO BUY THESE CANS AND BOTTLES.
SO THIS LOCATION WILL SERVE ALL SEVEN OF THESE LOCATIONS, THE COMMISSION'S DECISION AND, AND THEIR CONCERNS.
LAST MONTH, UH, WHEN OUR PROJECT WAS PRESENTED TO THE PANIC COMMISSION, IT WAS DENIED ON AFFORDED TO VOTE.
AT THE TIME, WE DIDN'T BRING A PRESENTATION BECAUSE WE THOUGHT THAT THE, THAT THE PROJECT WOULD BE WELL RECEIVED BASED ON ITS BENEFITS TO THE COMMUNITY.
BUT WE HEARD THEIR CONCERNS LOUD AND CLEAR, AND WE WANT TO ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS, CORRECT ANY MISUNDERSTANDINGS, AND MAKE SURE THAT THE PROJECT IS WELL, THE PROJECT WILL BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY.
SO THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID NOT OUR PROPOSAL BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE THAT WE WOULD CREATE NUISANCE ISSUES LIKE, LIKE LITTERING, TRAFFIC, NOISE, CRIME, LOITERING, OR OTHER NEGATIVE IMPACTS ON THE NEARBY BUSINESSES.
SO WE WANNA WALK THROUGH EACH OF THESE CONCERNS AND SHOW OUR OPERATION WILL NOT ONLY AVOID THESE ISSUES, BUT ACTUALLY HELP WITH SOME OF THESE EXISTING PROBLEMS AND BRING BENEFITS TO THE COMMUNITY.
SO TRAFFIC WAS THE MAIN CONCERN THAT WE HEARD FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AND WE WANT TO POINT OUT THAT TRAFFIC IS NOT EXPECTED TO INCREASE BECAUSE OF A SMALL RECYCLING CENTER.
SMALL RECYCLING CENTERS DON'T GENERATE SIGNIFICANT NEW TRAFFIC.
THE MAJORITY OF THESE VISITORS ARE ALREADY SHOPPING IN THE SHOPPING CENTERS, AND THEY'RE JUST DROPPING THEIR CANS OFF DURING THE REGULAR ERRANDS.
SO THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID MENTION THE RECYCLING CENTER IN THE FOOD FOR THIS PARKING LOT FOR SEVERAL REASONS, FOR AS AN EXAMPLE OF WHY THEY DIDN'T WANT OUR PROPOSED LOCATION.
SO THE FOOD FOR THIS LOCATION IS OVERCROWDED BECAUSE IT'S THE ONLY RECYCLING CENTER THAT SERVES ALL OF NORTH CHULA VISTA AND NATIONAL CITY.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THE, UH, NEXT CLOSEST RECYCLING CENTER IS A 10 MINUTE DRIVE OFF, UH, NEAR IMPERIAL AVENUE EAST OFF OF WOODMAN OR SOUTH OFF OF PALMORE.
SO TRAFFIC ISN'T EXPECTED TO BE AN ISSUE HERE.
ONCE THE RECYCLERS ARE BETTER DISTRIBUTED, WE'RE ALSO REQUIRING CUSTOMERS TO BRING THEIR MATERIALS ALREADY SORTED, WHICH MAKES THE PROCESS EVEN FASTER.
AND MANY RECYCLING CENTERS ALREADY OPERATE LIKE THIS.
SO THIS ISN'T NEW TO RECYCLERS.
AND SO THE MAIN CONCERN WAS THE TRAFFIC THAT'S ON N AVENUE.
AND TO HELP MITIGATE THIS TRAFFIC, WE'RE GONNA HAVE SIGNS THAT ASK CUSTOMERS TO LEAVE TOWARDS THE WEST SIDE OF THE PARKING LOT.
FIRE MARSHAL HERNANDEZ ALSO REQUIRED US TO HAVE A FIRE ESCAPE STUDY DONE, WHICH WE DID.
WE WORK WITH GEORGE LUCIA, WHO HIMSELF WAS A FIRE CHIEF AND FIRE MARSHAL, AND HE DREW UP SOME PLANS FOR US TO SHOW HOW WE COULD MITIGATE TRAFFIC IN OUR AREA, IN OUR AREA IF NEEDED.
UH, THIS FOLLOWS ALL FIRE AND STATE FIRE CODES, SORRY, ALL CITY AND FIRE ALL CITY AND STATE FIRE CODES.
SO THERE WERE CONCERNS ABOUT LITTERING AND NOISE AND WANNA SHARE WHAT WE LEARNED FROM OPERATING OUR OTHER RECYCLING CENTERS.
WHEN YOU HAVE A PRESENCE IN THE BACK AREA OF A SHOPPING CENTER WITH THE STAFF BUSINESS, IT ACTUALLY HELPS REDUCE ILLEGAL DUMPING BECAUSE IT'S NOT AN EMPTY HIDDEN SPACE ANYMORE.
THERE'S PEOPLE AROUND AND SECURITY CAMERAS IN PLACE.
SO WE MAKE SURE TO KEEP OUR RECYCLING CONTAINERS CLEAN BY, BY SWEEPING THROUGHOUT THE DAY AND POWER WASHING THEM WHEN NEEDED.
AND WE MAKE SURE TO COLLECT ANY RUNOFF WATER LIKE, UH, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO.
OUR CONTAINER AT THIS LOCATION WILL HAVE NOISE NAPPING MATERIAL TO HELP MITIGATE ANY NOISE FROM SOUND FROM CANS AND BOTTLES.
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AND THE NOISE THAT IS MADE FROM CANS AND BOTTLE IS ALREADY VERY LITTLE.AND THERE IS NO POWER DRIVEN EQUIPMENT USED AT SMALL RECYCLING CENTERS.
TRUCK PICKUP IS, UH, QUICK AND EASY.
WE HAVE ROLL OFF CONTAINERS, SO A ROLL OFF TRUCK HAS TO LINE UP WITH THE CONTAINER HOOK UP AND THE CONTAINER LIFTED ONTO THE TRUCK.
THIS TAKES NO MORE THAN FIVE MINUTES AND DROP OFF IS THE SAME THING.
WE DO OUR OWN TRUCKING AND WE'VE HAD THE SAME DRIVER FOR OVER 15 YEARS.
SO PICKUPS ARE QUICK AND EASY.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE EASILY COORDINATED.
SO THERE WAS CONCERNS ABOUT SHOPPING CART.
NO SHOPPING CART WILL BE ALLOWED AT THIS RECYCLING CENTER.
WE HAVE THIS RULE AT OUR OTHER SHOPPING AT OUR OTHER RECYCLING CENTERS.
AND LOTS OF RECYCLING CENTERS OPERATE LIKE THIS ACROSS THE CITY AND THE STATE.
SO THIS ISN'T NEW TO RECYCLERS EITHER.
UH, WE DO ALLOW OTHER SIMILAR OPTIONS LIKE THE FOLDABLE BASKETS OR WAGONS, BUT NOT COMMERCIAL SHOPPING CARTS.
AND THERE WAS ALSO CONCERNS ABOUT TRASH.
UH, WE DON'T TAKE IN AS MUCH GARBAGE AS YOU'D EXPECT.
CUSTOMERS WHO BRING IN THEIR MATERIAL ALREADY SORTED, THEY USUALLY TAKE THEIR BAGS BACK TO REUSE.
AND THE BAG AND THE TRASH THAT WE DO TAKE IN IS MOSTLY JUST PLASTIC BAGS FROM CUSTOMERS.
WE DON'T ACCEPT CARDBOARD OR EXCESSIVE TRASH FROM PEOPLE'S HOUSES.
SO THIS IS THE PROPOSED LOCATION.
THERE WAS SOME CONCERNS ABOUT HOW, NOT HOW NOISE MIGHT AFFECT THE NEARBY HOUSES.
AND WE WANNA REASSURE EVERYONE THAT A SMALL RECYCLING CENTER DOESN'T GENERATE LOUD ENOUGH NOISE TO BE HEARD FROM THE NEARBY HOUSES.
THE NEAREST RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY LINE IS 160 FEET AWAY, AND THE NEAREST HOUSE IS 200 FEET AWAY.
UH, AS MARTIN MENTIONED, WE ARE REQUIRED TO BE AT LEAST 50 FEET AWAY, WHICH WE EXCEED BY A LOT.
SO HERE'S A PHOTO SHOWING THE GRADE CHANGE AND THE HOUSES UP ON THE HILL.
AND THESE ARE A COUPLE MORE PHOTOS SHOWING THE GRADE CHANGE UP CLOSE ON THE LEFT, IF YOU'RE WALKING ALONGSIDE OF IT.
AND ON THE RIGHT, SHOWING THAT WE'RE 160 FEET AWAY AND THE HOUSE IS ABOUT 200 FEET AWAY.
CORONADO AVENUE, CRV CENTER, WE'VE BEEN OPERATING HERE SINCE JANUARY WITHOUT A NOISE COMPLAINT.
AND BEFORE US THERE WAS A RECYCLE CENTER HERE FOR OVER FIVE YEARS.
WE OPERATE ABOUT 50 FEET AWAY FROM AN APARTMENT COMPLEX AND A HUNDRED FEET AWAY FROM HOUSES.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THE, THAT'S THE APARTMENT COMPLEX.
AND ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FENCE IS THE HOUSES.
SO THIS IS THE SAME SITE, A LITTLE BIT MORE ZOOMED DOWN ON THE LEFT AND ON THE RIGHT YOU CAN SEE THOSE ARE HOUSES ON THE LEFT.
AND THEN THE APARTMENT COMPLEX.
THIS IS, UH, SAN DIEGO CV BUYBACK CENTER, OUR OTHER SMALL RECYCLING CENTER IN, UM, A SHOPPING CENTER.
THIS ONE IS DIRECTLY NEXT TO AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, AS YOU CAN SEE, RIGHT BEHIND US IS AN APARTMENT COMPLEX AND ACROSS THE STREET FROM MANY HOUSES.
THIS IS A PREVIOUS SITE THAT WE HAD IN SOUTH PARK.
WE OPERATED HERE FOR OVER FIVE YEARS UNTIL THE GROCERY STORE CLOSED, MEANING THAT THE CONVENIENCE ZONE DIDN'T EXIST ANYMORE.
WE WERE RIGHT NEXT TO, AS YOU CAN SEE RIGHT THERE, THAT WAS A HOUSE RIGHT ON OUR RIGHT SIDE.
AND THEN ACROSS THE STREET WAS AN APARTMENT COMPLEX.
BUT WE WANNA SHARE THESE EXAMPLES TO SHOW THAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING OPERATING IN SMALL SPACES, NEAR HOUSES AND NEAR APARTMENTS WITHOUT RECEIVING NOISE COMPLAINTS.
SMALL RECYCLING CENTERS OPERATE LIKE THIS ALL ACROSS THE CITY AND THE STATE.
IF THESE RECYCLING CENTERS ARE PUSHED OUTTA THESE COMMERCIAL ZONES AND INTO INDUSTRIAL ZONES, AND THEY'RE NOT SERVING THE CONVENIENCE ZONE LIKE THEY WERE INTENDED TO DO.
SO, CRIME AND LOITERING, SIMILAR TO ILLEGAL DUMPING, HAVING THE PRESENCE OF A STAFF BUSINESS AND PEOPLE AROUND DETERS UNWANTED ACTIVITY, WE DON'T HAVE PROBLEMS WITH, WITH CRIME OR WITH DUMPING AT ANY OF OUR SITES.
GIVING PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE EXTRA MONEY ACTUALLY HELPS REDUCE CRIME BECAUSE IT BRINGS MORE MONEY INTO THE COMMUNITY.
THE PROPERTY OWNER, WHO'S ALSO OUR LANDLORD AT THE CORONA AUTO LOCATION, HE RE AND HE'S ALSO REC WHO RECOMMENDED THIS LOCATION TO US.
HE INVESTED A LOT INTO SECURITY AT THIS SITE, INCLUDING, UH, 24 7 VIDEO SURVEILLANCE SECURITY WHO CAN SPEAK THROUGH A TWO-WAY SYSTEM AND A SECURITY GUARD ON SITE FOR THE SHOPPING CENTER EIGHT HOURS A DAY.
OUR RECYCLING CENTER WILL ALSO HAVE ITS OWN CAMERAS AND SECURITY SYSTEM.
SO THE PROPERTY OWNER, DR. GEORGE SME, WROTE A LETTER OF SUPPORT FOR US FOR THE CITY COUNCIL WHERE HE REASSURES THAT CRIME IS NOT AN ISSUE IN THE SHOPPING CENTER.
BY GIVING THE LIST OF MEASURES THAT THEY'VE TAKEN, LIKE THE 24 7 VIDEO SURVEILLANCE, THAT TWO-WAY AUDIO SYSTEM AND THE ON ONSITE SECURITY GUARD.
SINCE IMPLEMENTING THESE CHANGES, CRIME HAS GONE DOWN 95% IN THE SHOPPING CENTER.
AND HE ALSO GIVES HIS FULL SUPPORT FOR US BASED ON OUR GOOD TRACK RECORD AT THE CORONA AUTO LOCATION.
SO THERE WAS CONCERNS THAT WE WOULD HAVE NEGATIVE IMPACTS ON THE NEARBY BUSINESSES, BUT IT'S NOTHING BUT THE OPPOSITE.
WE HAND OUT ON AVERAGE $1,500 A DAY AT OUR ESTABLISHED RECYCLING CENTERS.
AND THIS MONEY IS SPENT NEARBY BUSINESSES.
NATIONAL CITY RESIDENTS HAVE TO DRIVE TO OTHER CITIES RIGHT NOW TO RECYCLE, WHICH MEANS THAT THEY'RE MOST LIKELY SPENDING THIS MONEY IN THOSE OTHER CITIES.
IT ALSO HELPS REDUCE DEBT FROM LOCAL BUSINESSES BY BRINGING MORE MONEY INTO THE COMMUNITY.
AND AGAIN, IT'LL HELP THE TAKE THE BURDEN OFF THE SEVEN MAJOR GROCERY STORES AND LOTS OF SMALL CONVENIENCE AND LIQUOR STORES THAT ARE REQUIRED BYLAW TO BUY THE CRV CONTAINERS.
UH, OMAR HAD MENTIONED ABOUT THE, THE A HUNDRED DOLLARS A DAY, THEY ACTUALLY GOT RID OF THAT.
SO EVERY STORE IS SINCE, UH, JANUARY, EVERY STORE IS REQUIRED TO BUY THE, UH, THE CANS AND BOTTLES.
AND THAT'S FOR SMALL LIQUOR STORES AND, AND, UH, CONVENIENCE STORES ALSO.
THEY, UH, MEET THE, THE SALES MARK.
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WERE CONCERNS ABOUT HOW RECYCLING CENTERS WERE BRING BUGS OR RODENTS BECAUSE OF CANS AND BOTTLES, BUT WE USE THE RIGHT CONTAINERS AND WE MOVE THEM REGULARLY.SO THIS ISN'T AN ISSUE FOR US, BUT IF YOU HAVE ALL THESE SMALL GROCERY AND LIQUOR STORES BUYING CANS AND BOTTLES, THEN THAT'S WHEN YOU'RE GONNA START GETTING THESE PROBLEMS. LIKE, UM, BUGS AND RODENTS.
YOU KNOW, THERE WERE CONCERNS THAT WE WERE NEAR RESTAURANTS AND WE WOULD BRING THESE PROBLEMS TO RESTAURANTS, BUT WE AREN'T, BUT WE USE THE RIGHT EQUIPMENT AND WE AREN'T NEAR ANY RESTAURANTS.
ALL THESE GROCERY STORES, CONVENIENCE STORES AND LIQUOR STORES AROUND THE CITY THAT ARE REQUIRED TO BUY CRV, THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE NEAR RESTAURANTS AND THEY'RE NOT USING THE RIGHT EQUIPMENT.
IT ALSO HELPS KEEP THE NEIGHBORHOOD CLEAN.
AGAIN, LIKE I MENTIONED, IT HELPS INCENTIVIZE PEOPLE TO, TO RECYCLE INSTEAD OF LITTERING THEIR CANS AND BOTTLES.
SO THESE ARE THE UNSERVED ZONES THAT WE'LL BE SERVING.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THE LITTLE RED DOT, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GONNA BE.
UH, THIS ZONE, THIS LOCATION WILL HELP ALL OF NATIONAL CITY BE COMPLIANT WITH COW RECYCLE.
AND EVERY STORE IN THAT, IN THOSE CIRCLES WON'T HAVE TO, UH, ACCEPT THE CANS AND BOTTLES.
SO THE, JUST THE MAIN POINTS WE WANT YOU GUYS TO REMEMBER IS THAT THIS, THIS WILL SERVE, SORRY, LEMME FIND IT.
THIS WILL PROVIDE NATIONAL CITY WITH A MUCH COMMUNITY SERVICE.
IT BRINGS, THE PROGRAM IS MEANT TO BRING MORE MONEY INTO LOCAL COMMUNITIES.
AND AGAIN, IT'S SPENT, WE HAND OUT ON AVERAGE $1,500 IN CASH THAT GOES DIRECTLY BACK INTO LOCAL COMMUNITIES.
OUR PRESENCE WILL ALSO HELP KEEP THE AREA CLEAN AND SAFE.
MORE PEOPLE AROUND ACTIVITY GOING ON IN THESE HIDDEN AREAS HELPS DETER ANY UNWANTED ACTIVITY, ILLEGAL DUMPING AND LOITERING.
IT ALSO ADDS MORE CAMERAS TO THESE HIDDEN AREAS.
AND AGAIN, IT TAKES THE BURDEN AWAY FROM ALL THE LOCAL GROCERY AND CONVENIENCE STORES.
SO, JUST TO CLOSE IT UP, WE HEAR THE CONCERNS RAISED ABOUT SPACE, POTENTIAL, NOISE, CRIME, AND TRAFFIC.
HOWEVER, WE WANNA REASSURE THE COUNCIL THAT OUR CONCLUSIONS ARE BASED ON PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE AND NOT SPECULATION.
WE WERE NOT INVESTED TIME, RESOURCES, OR EFFORT INTO THE LOCATION THAT WE WERE NOT COMPLETELY CONFIDENT IN.
WE SUCCESSFULLY OPERATED LOCATIONS IN SMALLER SPACES, CLOSER TO HOUSES AND APARTMENTS, AND IN BUSIER SHOPPING CENTERS, ALL WITHOUT INCREASING CRIME, CAUSING TRAFFIC ISSUES OR GETTING NOISE COMPLAINTS.
OUR PRESENCE HAS ACTUALLY HELPED REDUCE ILLEGAL DUMPING, IMPROVE SAFETY, AND IT SUPPORTS LOCAL BUSINESSES.
SO, AS WE MENTIONED EARLIER, WE EXPECTED THE PROJECT TO BE WELL RECEIVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
SO WE DIDN'T BRING A PRESENTATION AT THAT TIME, BUT WE FEEL THAT IF WE HAD PRESENTED THE INFORMATION YOU'VE SEEN TODAY, THAT THEIR CONCERNS WOULD'VE BEEN BETTER ADDRESSED.
BUT BASED ON OUR EXPERIENCE, WE BELIEVE THAT WE WE'RE CONFIDENT THAT THESE CONCERNS WILL NOT BE ISSUED AT THIS SITE.
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME, AND WE HOPE TO HAVE YOUR SUPPORT.
ANY, UH, QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT BEFORE WE'RE HERE TO PUBLIC SPEAKERS.
WE MAY, MAY CALL YOU BACK UP LATER POSSIBLY.
UM, WITH THAT, I DO HAVE TWO PUBLIC SPEAKERS.
AMANDA ROJAS, YOU FOLLOWED BY DOYLE MORRISON, MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS CHIEF ALEX HERNANDEZ.
UM, MY NAME IS ROJAS, OH, I'M SORRY.
AND I LIVE RIGHT BEHIND, UH, THE SMART AND FINAL SHOPPING CENTER.
WE'VE BEEN LONGSTANDING RESIDENCE SINCE 1974, MY MOM, SINCE 1965.
WE HAVE ENDURED, UM, A LOT OF ACTIVITY RIGHT BEHIND SMART AND FINAL SHOPPING CENTER.
UM, WE, I'M HERE TO REPRESENT OTHER NEIGHBORS THAT COULDN'T BE HERE TONIGHT.
AND, UH, WE RESPECTFULLY URGE THE CITY COUNCIL TO UPHOLD THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S DENIAL OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR THE PROPOSED MOBILE RECYCLING CENTER.
MY HUSBAND RICK ROJAS AND I HAVE BEEN THERE, LIKE I SAID, UH, LONGSTANDING.
AND WE ALREADY ENDORSE SIGNIFICANT ONGOING PROBLEMS, CONSTANT IDLING OF THE DELIVERY TRUCKS, DAY AND NIGHT, FREQUENT POLICE ACTIVITY, INCLUDING SIRENS, LIGHTS AND LOUDSPEAKERS, CAR RACING, BURNOUTS, LATE NIGHT NOISE DISTURBANCES, PEOPLE RUMMAGING THROUGH TRASH BINS, EVEN IF IT'S LOCKED UP AND LEAVING LITTER, CONTINUOUS FOOT AND VEHICLE TRAFFIC.
USING THE ALLEY AS A SHORTCUT, ADDING A MOBILE RECYCLING CENTER WOULD INTENSIFY THE PROBLEMS. IT WOULD BRING MORE NOISE, MORE TRAFFIC, MORE LITTER, AND MORE LATE HOUR ACTIVITY DIRECTLY BEHIND OUR HOMES.
THIS LOCATION IS NOT APPROPRIATE FOR A RECYCLING CENTER, MOBILE OR OTHERWISE.
DUE TO THE CLOSE PROXIMITY TO FAMILY RESIDENCES, THE PLANNING COMMISSION MADE THE CORRECT DECISION BASED ON REAL VISIBLE ONGOING IMPACTS.
FOR THESE REASONS, WE RESPECTFULLY ASKED THE CITY COUNCIL TO DENY THE APPEAL AND AFFIRM THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S DENIAL OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
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ALSO, SWEETWATER ROAD IS OF DOWN L AVENUE TO N AVENUE IS A SHORTCUT TO PLAZA BOULEVARD, AND THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC GOING THROUGH THERE ALREADY.AS WELL AS THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT FOR DRIVE VOICE ON EACH SIDE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
UH, IN REGARDS TO THIS RECYCLE CENTER, THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I SAW IN, IN THE PRESENTATION THAT ARE INACCURATE.
I JUST DID A GOOGLE MAP OUT, AND THAT RESIDENCE THAT HAS THE POOL UP ON, UH, ON TOP OF THE HILL IS 50 FEET AWAY, NOT 150 FEET AWAY.
AND I SAW ON THERE THAT THE TRUCKS WILL BE GOING DOWN THE ALLEY AND, AND GOING TO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THEIR EXIT BEHIND ALL OF THOSE BUSINESSES.
AND IF YOU'VE EVER DRIVEN BACK THERE, YOU HAVE TO GO REALLY SLOW BECAUSE THERE'S DIVOTS AND DRAINAGE DITCHES AND ALL THAT STUFF.
AND THOSE LARGE TRUCKS, WHEN THEY GO OVER IT, I KNOW THIS BECAUSE WE HEAR 'EM WHEN THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF OFFSET ON THE FREEWAY, WHEN TRUCKS GO BY, IT GOES KUNK AND YOU HEAR IT FOR MILES.
LIKE, UM, SO THOSE RESIDENTS ARE GONNA HEAR THOSE TRUCKS WHEN THEY'RE COMING BY.
THEY'RE GONNA, THEY'RE GONNA POP OVER.
AND THESE TRUCKS AREN'T SMALL TRUCKS.
IT'S NOT LIKE A LITTLE DELIVERY SERVICE TRUCK.
AND SO IN THE EVENT THAT THAT ALLEY GETS BLOCKED IN ANY WAY, ARE THEY GONNA GO UP EL AVENUE? THERE'S A SIGN IN THEIR PRESENTATION ON THE CORNER THAT SAYS FIVE TONS MAX.
THOSE TRUCKS EMPTY, ARE MORE THAN FIVE TONS.
THOSE TRUCKS ARE, YOU CAN PROBABLY ASK THE, UH, APPLICANTS, THEY'RE GONNA BE MORE THAN THAT.
THE OTHER ISSUE THAT I SAW IS THAT ON THEIR DIAGRAM, IT SHOWED THE SDG E TRANSFORMER, THE GREEN BOX WITH THE BALLARDS AROUND IT, IT SHOWED IT OUT IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING, A LITTLE, UM, OFFSET FROM THE BUILDING, LIKE THE, THE BACK CORNER OF THE BUILDING.
SO THEIR CONTAINERS ARE GONNA BE FURTHER NORTH.
IT'S GONNA IMPACT THOSE PARKING SPOTS THAT ARE OVER THERE.
I THINK SITE, LIKE I SAID, I THINK RECYCLING IS A GREAT THING.
I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT A FAMILY OWNED BUSINESS THAT'S, THAT'S THINGS THAT I CHERISH AND, AND I PUSH FOR, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S THE RIGHT LOCATION FOR THIS PARTICULAR, UH, RECYCLE CENTER.
MAYBE THEY CAN FIND A BETTER PLACE AND, AND DO THE GOOD WORK THAT THEY DO.
BUT, UH, PLEASE UPHOLD THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S DENIAL.
UH, THAT'S ALL THE SPEAKERS THAT WE HAVE.
COULD WE HAVE A, UH, MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
THIS IS JUST TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
MOTION TO APPROVE UNANIMOUSLY.
AND FOR THE RECORD, THERE WAS ONE WRITTEN COMMENT FOR THE ITEM.
UM, WITH THAT COMMENTS OR ANYTHING FROM COUNSEL FOR THE CHAIR? YES.
COUNCIL MEMBER, I DO HAVE A COMMENT.
UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO THE, UM, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT PROVIDED THEIR INPUT ON BEHALF OF THE RESIDENTS OF THE AREA.
AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO THE, UH, BUSINESS OWNERS THAT ARE, UM, INTERESTED IN PROVIDING THIS SERVICE.
ALSO, THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION THAT YOU SHARED WITH ME WHEN YOU MET, UH, WITH ME.
UM, I DIDN'T WATCH THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, UH, BUT I DID GET ENOUGH INFORMATION TO UNDERSTAND THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION MADE A DECISION BASED ON THE INFORMATION THEY HAD AT HAND, UM, THROUGH MY BRIEFINGS WITH STAFF.
AND THEN, OF COURSE, HEARING YOUR PRESENTATION TONIGHT, UM, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU SORT OF DID YOUR HOMEWORK.
YOU, THE APPLICANTS DID THEIR HOMEWORK.
YOU CERTAINLY HEARD, UH, WHAT THE ISSUES WERE THROUGH THE EXPERIENCE THAT YOU HAD FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU CAME AND, AND APPROACHED US, UH, VERY SINCERELY, I FEEL, I FEEL THAT YOU, UH, ARE VERY SINCERE IN WANTING TO PRESENT YOUR PROJECT AGAIN.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, LIKE, UH, DOYLE MENTIONED, MR. MORRISON MENTIONED, UM, YOU'RE A SMALL BUSINESS.
YOU'RE INTERESTED IN DOING SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, PROVIDING A SERVICE FOR THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY, WHICH IS NEEDED.
THAT IS ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT DOES, UM, DRAW ME TO, UH, SUPPORT YOUR PROJECT, IS THAT THIS IS A SERVICE THAT IS NEEDED IN THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY, RIGHT? I MEAN, BY STATUTE, UH, WE DO REQUIRE RECYCLING IN THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY.
AND IT ISN'T SOMETHING THAT IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.
UM, I THINK A BURDEN THAT YOU WOULD REMOVE FROM EACH OF THE RETAILERS IS PROB IS A GOOD THING.
UM, ALL OF THOSE GREEN CIRCLES THAT YOU SHOWED IN YOUR DIAGRAM, I THINK IS A POSITIVE FOR THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY.
SO, UM, ALSO SHOWING, YOU KNOW, I'M TAKING YOUR WORD FOR IT, RIGHT? I, I DON'T KNOW, OTHER THAN WHAT YOU JUST DESCRIBED TODAY,
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BUT, UM, SHOWING YOUR OTHER LOCATIONS AND THEIR PROXIMITY TO OTHER, YOU KNOW, TO OTHER RESIDENTS.UM, AND, AND ACCORDING TO YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE, YOU'VE BEEN OPERATING THERE FOR YEARS, UM, ACCORDING TO YOU, THERE HAVE BEEN NO COMPLAINTS.
UM, THAT, THAT'S INFORMATION FOR ME TO, UM, REALLY CONSIDER THAT PERHAPS THIS IS A GOOD THING AND I'M WILLING TO TAKE THE RISK.
AND I DO HEAR, UM, THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE UP ON THE HILL, UM, I HAVE DRIVEN BY THAT LOCATION.
I ACTUALLY USED, THAT WAS MY VERY FIRST JOB.
I USED TO WORK IN THAT SHOPPING CENTER, UM, FOR ONE OF THE OPTOMETRISTS.
HE'S, UM, HE'S ACTUALLY STILL THERE, DR.
UM, I WORKED THERE FOR YEARS AS A RECEPTIONIST AND I USED TO DRIVE, HE USED TO PARK BACK THERE BEHIND HIS BUSINESS.
AND I USED TO DRIVE BACK THERE.
BACK THEN, IT WASN'T A SMART AND FINAL, BUT, UM, I WOULD DRIVE IN THAT AREA.
SO I AM VERY FAMILIAR WITH ALL OF THOSE.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE SPEED BUMPS AND ALL OF THAT.
I KNOW THAT THERE'S A BUNCH OF STRAY CATS THAT LIVE UP ON THAT HILL.
SO, UM, IT, IT, IT DOES HELP TO THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE SOME OF THE ACTIVITY THAT IS UNWANTED THAT HAPPENS BACK THERE CURRENTLY, UM, MIGHT BE DISSUADE FROM HAPPENING BECAUSE NOW THERE WILL BE THIS ACTIVITY AND THERE WILL BE, UM, UH, CAMERAS AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S PEOPLE AROUND.
SO, SO THAT MIGHT HELP TO, TO DISSUADE SOME FOLKS FROM, YOU KNOW, LOITERING AND, AND DOING THINGS THEY SHOULDN'T BE DOING.
SO, SO I'M WILLING TO GIVE THAT A TRY.
UM, CAN I ASK THE APPLICANTS COME BACK UP? I JUST GOT A QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU.
SOMETHING WAS BROUGHT UP, IT WAS MENTIONED ABOUT, 'CAUSE BEHIND THE SHOPPING CENTER THERE, THERE IS, THERE'S A BUNCH OF DIPS, A BUNCH OF GRADING AND EVERYTHING ELSE, AND YOU GET TRUCK.
WHERE WOULD YOUR COUPLE THINGS THIS, HOW OFTEN WOULD DO YOUR TRUCKS NORMALLY DO A PICKUP? IT'S ABOUT, UH, ONCE TO START IT.
UH, THE CORONADO LOCATION IS BEEN THERE SINCE JANUARY.
WHEN WE STARTED, IT WAS ONCE EVERY TWO WEEKS.
RIGHT NOW WE'RE ONCE EVERY WEEK, MAYBE SOMETIMES FIVE DAYS, BUT OKAY.
SO IT, IT'S AN INFREQUENT THING.
THE OTHER THING IS I, YOU KNOW, I JUST LOOKING AT, I CAN'T SEE ANY REASON THAT THEY WOULD BE GOING UP THAT HILL.
UH, I, I WOULD THINK THEY'D BE COMING OFF OF PLAZA.
WELL, THERE'S NO REASON TO GO UP THAT HILL ANYWAY.
I, I WOULD THINK, UH, YOU, YOU'RE GONNA GO PLAZA TO GO FREEWAY AND THAT TYPE OF STUFF AND THEN GO BACK OUT.
SO, UH, SO I DON'T THINK YOU EVEN GO ON THAT BACK.
THERE'S NO REASON TO GO BACK ON THAT.
AND HOPEFULLY YOU WOULD DISCOURAGE ANY TRUCKS FROM EITHER GOING UP THAT HILL OR THERE, YOU SAID YOU, YOUR OWN TRUCKS ARE DOING THIS.
SO WE HAVE, SO YOU CONTROL THAT, CONTROL THAT WHEN WE, WHEN WE WANT IT PICKED UP, IT'S NOT BUSY OR OKAY.
OR HOURS OR EARLIER IN THE DAY OR, OKAY.
JUST THE TRUCK'S ALSO STORED AT THE, AT THE MAIN LOCATION, WE HAVE AN INDUSTRIAL SITE.
SO IT'S, THERE'S NO IDLING OF THE TRUCK OR ANYTHING.
IT JUST SHOWS AT THE PICK UP AND IT TAKES OFF RIGHT AWAY, SO.
AND SO APPROXIMATELY ONE TRUCK LOAD A WEEK, RIGHT? YEAH, ABOUT ONE TRUCK LOAD.
AND THERE, AND THE TRUCK, I MEAN, IT'S A, IT'S A THREE ACTUAL TRUCK.
A PULLING A TRAILER OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
UM, A A COUPLE OF THINGS WE'RE, WE'RE, WE GET INTO KIND OF A QUANDARY ON THIS BECAUSE, UM, STATE LAW SAYS THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE RECYCLING CENTERS.
UM, AND THEY DO HAVE THIS CONVENIENCE ZONE SAYING THAT IF YOU ARE A CI UH, CRV PROVIDER, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A RECYCLING WITHIN ONE YEAR.
UH, I MEAN ONE YEAR, ONE MILE RADIUS.
UM, AND NATIONAL CITY DID HAVE A NUMBER OF RECYCLING CENTERS.
THEY WENT OUTTA BUSINESS BECAUSE THE, THE STATE CAME UP WITH THIS GREAT IDEA.
THE WAY THE STATE CAN MAKE MORE MONEY IS THEY, THEY WOULD TAKE MORE OF THE MONEY FROM THE RECYCLERS AND LET THE RECYCLERS KEEP LESS OF THE MONEY, AND THEREFORE THEY COULD PUT THAT INTO THE GENERAL FUND.
WELL, WHAT IT DID IS JUST PUT 'EM ALL OUT OF BUSINESS.
SO, I MEAN, IT, IT, IT, GREAT SACRAMENTAL LOGIC.
UH, SO THAT'S THE REASON THEY HAVEN'T COME DOWN ON US FOR NOT HAVING A RECYCLING CENTER.
'CAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT HAVE PUT 'EM OUT OF BUSINESS.
BUT NOW WE'RE IN A POSITION TO WHERE SOMEONE IS ASKED TO BRING ONE IN.
AND IF WE DENY IT, THEN WE GET IN TROUBLE, UH, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT HAVING THAT SERVICE, WHICH, AND IT'S, IT IS, UH, A STATE BILL CALLED AB 9 39, AND IT'S THE, UH, UH, OH, UH, UH, BASICALLY DEALS WITH RECYCLING AND, AND, AND TRASH AND THE, UH, WHICH DICTATES ALL OF THIS STUFF.
AND THERE'S ONLY KIND OF ONE SPOT IN TOWN THAT YOU CAN MAKE ALL OF THE, ALL THE MAJOR GROCERY STORES, WHETHER IF IT IS SMART AND FINAL.
I'M, I'M THINKING OF WALMART, OF COURSE.
UH, YOU HAVE, UH, MANO, UH, YOU HAVE VITA.
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I'M TRYING TO THINK, I KNOW THERE'S A COUPLE MORE THERE THAT ARE MAJOR ONES.THERE'S ONLY ONE SPOT WHERE YOU HIT ALL OF THOSE WITH ONLY ONE RECYCLING CENTER.
AND THAT'S BASICALLY IN THIS AREA HERE.
'CAUSE IF YOU, MOST OF THOSE ARE RIGHT ON THE EDGE OF ONE MILE.
UM, AND THEN THAT GIVES US TOTAL COVERAGE.
BUT AS I SAY, WE'RE KIND OF REGULATED BY THE STATE SAYING WE HAVE TO ALLOW, WE HAVE TO HAVE THE RECYCLING AND WE HAVE TO HAVE IT IF IT'S REQUESTED WITHIN THAT ONE.
UH, ANYTHING THAT'S WITHIN A ONE MILE RADIUS.
AND OTHERWISE, AS WAS MENTIONED, I KNOW THAT THE FINE DEAL HAS BEEN THROWN OUT AS OF JANUARY 1ST, WHICH IS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER OF THE A HUNDRED DOLLARS A DAY.
BUT OTHERWISE, THEY GOTTA START TAKING THE RECYCLING INSIDE THE STORE.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK ANY OF US WANT TO BE WAITING IN LINE AND YOU GOT PEOPLE CARRYING BAGS OF RECYCLABLES IN, INTO THE GROCERY STORES.
UM, SO IT, IT KIND OF CATCHES US INTO A BIND ON, ON ALL OF THIS.
AND, UH, ANOTHER THING, AND, AND I'M, I'M SORRY, DOYLE.
SOMETIMES I AGREE WITH YOU, SOMETIMES I DON'T.
BUT I THINK GOOGLE HAD THAT ONE WAY WRONG.
IT IS NO WAY IN THE WORLD THAT'S 50 FEET AWAY.
UH, THE RECYCLING CENTER OVER TO THE WALL THAT STARTS LEADING UP TO THOSE HOUSES IS AT LEAST 50 FEET.
UH, AND, UH, UM, THE, UH, SO IT, IT IS, IT IS QUITE A DISTANCE.
AND YOU HAVE THE, THE HEIGHT ELEVATION.
UM, I DON'T KNOW OF ANOTHER PLACE IN TOWN THAT COULD COME ANYWHERE NEAR TO MEETING THE SPECIFICATIONS TO MEET ALL THOSE, THE NEEDS THAT WOULD NOT HAVE A HE MUCH HEAVIER IMPACT UPON NEIGHBORS THAN THIS ONE.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND IF IT WAS LEFT TO US, WE'D SAY, NO, YOU JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU THROW EVERYTHING INTO YOUR FLUX CAPACITOR AND LET IT DRIVE YOUR CAR WITH, YOU KNOW, YOUR ALUMINUM CANS OR WHATEVER.
BUT THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT THE, THE SITUATION WE HAVE.
WE HAVE, WE HAVE TO HAVE RECYCLING AND WE HAVE TO HAVE IT BY STATE STANDARDS.
AND, UM, SO, YOU KNOW, I I DO BELIEVE THAT THEY, UH, IN HEARING SOME OF THE THINGS, I DID NOT EITHER WATCH THE, UH, UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, BUT I HEARD FROM A NUMBER OF PEOPLE AND A NUMBER OF COMMISSIONERS THAT SPOKE ABOUT IT.
AND I DO BELIEVE THEY ADDRESSED A NUMBER OF THINGS IN THEIR PRESENTATION TONIGHT.
UH, IS IT PERFECT? ABSOLUTELY NOT.
UM, BUT AS I SAY, WITH ONLY BASICALLY ONE TRUCKLOAD PER WEEK, IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A CONSTANT, UH, GROUP OF, UH, UM, VEHICLES GOING.
UH, WE DO HAVE, AS I SAY, THE ONE RECYCLING CENTER DOWN THERE AT FOOD FOR LESS.
AND THE ONLY THIN ONES THAT MEET IS THE FOOD FOR LESS.
AND THE L SUPER IS THE ONLY ONES THAT IT TAKES CARE OF WITHIN THAT CONVENIENCE ZONE.
SO ALL THE OTHER GROCERY STORES, LIQUOR STORES, CONVENIENCE STORES, EVERYTHING ELSE, UH, NONE OF THEM ARE SERVED BY THAT ONE.
UH, BUT THIS ONE BASICALLY TAKES CARE OF THE WHOLE REST OF THE CITY.
UM, SO IT, IT KIND OF PUTS US IN A QUANDARY ON HOW TO MEET THE STATE REQUIREMENTS AND YET HAVE AS LITTLE IMPACT UPON NEIGHBORHOODS AS POSSIBLE.
AND, UM, AND ALSO, UM, I KNOW IN THE PAST WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY REQUEST IN A GOOD NUMBER OF YEARS FOR, UH, A CRV CENTER.
AND THE ONES WERE NORMALLY PEOPLE THAT HAD NO EXPERIENCE DOING IT.
AND SO, UH, AND THEY JUST AT THAT TIME SAW A GOOD WAY TO MAKE QUICK MONEY.
AND THAT WAS BEFORE THE STATE CHANGED ALL OF THEIR, THEIR REGULATIONS.
SO IT'S A, UH, UM, IT'S REFRESHING TO SEE PEOPLE THAT HAVE ACTUALLY GOT A TRACK RECORD AND, AND EXPERIENCE DOING THIS.
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE APPLICANT, UM, FOR, UM, THOUGHTFULLY, UM, REACHING OUT TO US TO EXPLAIN OR TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES AND CONCERNS THAT A PLANNING COMMISSION HAD BROUGHT UPON.
UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN THIS, UM, THIS, UM, APPLICATION, I HAD BRIEF, UH, CONVERSATION WITH A CITY MANAGER ABOUT THIS WITH REGARDS TO TRAFFIC, AND I'M SURE THAT THAT'S ALSO BEEN ADDRESSED.
I ALSO HAD SEEN THAT, UM, YOU'RE CUTTING OFF YOUR BUSINESS TIME, UH, YOUR HOURS FROM NINE TO FIVE, UM, SO MONDAY TO SATURDAY.
SO I, I THINK SOME OF THOSE, UM, ISSUES AND CONCERNS WERE KIND OF MITIGATED HERE.
UM, I KNOW JUST LIKE WHAT, UH, MAYOR SAID, IT'S NOT, WE, WE ARE, WE ARE GOING TO BE MONITORING IT.
UM, WELL STAFF WILL BE MONITORING IT, UM, BASED ON THOSE, UM, THOSE, UM, CODE, CODE CONFORMANCE AND, AND, UH, UM, THE THINGS THAT YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING TO DO AS A, UH, RESPONSIBLE, UM, BUSINESS, UH, PERSON IN NATIONAL CITY.
SO, UM, I WOULD SUPPORT THIS, UM, WITH, WITH YOUR, UM, WITH YOUR ASSURANCE
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THAT, UM, YOU WILL CONTINUE TO BE THAT GOOD RESPONSIBLE BUSINESS IN NATIONAL CITY.SO THANK YOU TO THE, UM, TO THE BUSINESS OWNERS FOR, FOR COMING AND SPEAKING.
I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU GUYS GOING INTO DETAIL ABOUT ALL THESE, UH, CONCERNS.
THE NOISE, THE TRAFFIC, UH, THE LITTER.
UM, YOU GIVING FACTUAL EXAMPLES OF HOW YOU ALREADY OPERATE YOUR BUSINESS.
THEY DON'T WANNA REPEAT EVERYTHING.
UM, MY COLLEAGUES SAID BY LARGELY, UM, I, I AGREE WITH IT THAT IT'S A NEED.
UM, IT'S GOOD FOR THE ENVIRONMENT.
WE WANT TO REDUCE ANY IMPACT TO THE RESIDENTS.
AND I, I DO WANT TO THANK, UH, MISS, IS IT AMADA? AM AMADA AM AM MISS AMADA, UM, AND FOR, UM, DOING COMMUNITY ORGANIZING AND REACHING OUT TO YOUR NEIGHBORS AND RESIDENTS, UM, I DO FEEL LIKE HE ADDRESS, THEY ADDRESSED, UH, THE BUSINESSES.
LIKE A LOT OF, UM, ME CONCERNS WITH IDEAS.
AND WHAT I WOULD ASK FOR, FOR YOU GUYS, UM, IS TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS AND TO GET THEIR CONTACT IF THEY'RE, UM, IF YOU GUYS ALLOW, UH, GET EXCHANGE CONTACT INFO BECAUSE IF THERE IS ISSUES, WHETHER IT'S NOISE OR LITTER OR TRASH, UM, I THINK IT'S BEST TO, YOU KNOW, JUST BE, BE GOOD NEIGHBORS AND THEM, UM, TELL YOU DIRECTLY.
BUT YOU COULD ALWAYS CALL OUR CITY WHEN THERE ARE THOSE, UM, POTENTIAL COMPLAINTS, NOISE VIOLATIONS, TRASH, LITTER, UH, WHEN WE HAVE RESIDENTS, UH, UH, TALK TO US OR OUR STAFF HAS BEEN VERY RESPONSIVE TO ADDRESSING THOSE ISSUES, ESPECIALLY OUR CODE COMPLIANCE.
I WANNA GIVE THEM A SHOUT OUT.
SO WE DO, I, UM, I, IT SOUNDS LIKE THE MAJORITY OF US DO APPROVE THIS, BUT I DON'T WANT, UM, UH, YOU TO THINK THAT WE'RE IGNORING YOUR CONCERNS.
I I DO WANT TO GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO, YOU KNOW, BE IN BUSINESS.
'CAUSE IT IS A NEED FOR THE CITY RE UM, FOR, UM, FOR OUR ENTIRE CITY.
UM, AND I EXPECT THEM, AND I THINK ALL OF US ARE, ARE BEING CLEAR WITH THEM THAT THEY NEED TO ADDRESS THOSE, WHICH I THINK THEY AT LEAST HAVE.
AND THEN IN THE FUTURE TO BE PROACTIVE, IF THEY COULD KEEP THE COMMUNICATION WITH YOU ALL AND YOU GUYS EXCHANGE, UH, INFO.
SO IF THERE'S, THERE ARE ISSUES TO JUST TRY TO WORK, UH, UH, TOGETHER TO DIRECT IT BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT NOISE, UM, OR KINDA LITTER ANYTHING.
AND WE RESPECT YOU GUYS AS LONG-TERM RESIDENTS.
SO WE THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT.
UM, AND I, AND I DO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.
UM, THANK YOU ALL FOR THE APPLICANTS FOR PROACTIVELY REACHING OUT.
THANK YOU FOR THE TENANTS THAT LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT'S CRITICAL TO HAVE COMMUNITY VOICES IN THE PROCESS, SO THANK YOU.
UM, I DO HAVE A QUICK QUESTION REGARDING THE, UM, SDG AND E ELECTRICAL, UH, BOX THAT'S THERE.
ARE THERE ANY ISSUES WITH THE PROPOSAL AND THE, UM, ELECTRICAL BOX THAT'S, THAT'S CURRENTLY THERE? UH, AND THROUGH THE CHAIR AND ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION, THERE ARE BOLLARDS AROUND THAT FACILITY, WHICH ARE INTENDED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S STILL ACCESS TO THAT BY TECHNICIANS.
UH, THE, AND THAT'S MOSTLY BECAUSE THERE'S THE PARK THREE PARKING SPACES DIRECTLY TO THE EAST.
THE, IF PEOPLE WOULD BACK UP INTO THAT TRANSFORMER OR THAT ELECTRICAL BOX RATHER, THAT WOULD BE AN ISSUE.
SO, UH, PROVIDED THERE IS STILL ACCESS TO THAT AREA, THAT THAT IS NOT AN ISSUE.
UM, YEAH, NO, THANK YOU FOR THAT.
UH, I, I DEFINITELY HEAR THE COMMUNITY'S CONCERNS WHEN IT COMES TO SAFETY.
UM, I ACTUALLY THINK THAT HAVING MORE FOOT TRAFFIC WILL MAKE THE AREA A LITTLE, UM, UH, SAFER.
UM, UH, I GO THERE ALL, ALL THE TIME.
I ACTUALLY GO TO SMART AND FINAL, I GET WATER FROM THE LITTLE CORNER STORE.
SO, UM, IT IS, UH, ESPECIALLY IN THE EVENINGS, UM, A LITTLE CONCERNING, BUT I DO THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE MORE FOOT TRAFFIC AND IN, IN DOING SO, I THINK IT'LL BE A SAFER, UH, PLACE TO, TO, TO BE IN THE CITY.
SO I AM SUPPORTIVE OF THIS PROJECT.
MAYOR, ARE YOU READY FOR A MOTION? YES, MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CUP BEFORE US TO APPROVE THE APPEAL.
IS THAT, THAT WHAT I, OH, OKAY.
AND I HOPE THAT THE, UH, THE NEIGHBORS THERE WILL NOT SEE THIS AS A REBUFF TO THEM IN ANY WAY.
UH, BUT IT IS A PROPOSAL THAT, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.
AND, UM, AND HAS, I THINK AS MINIMAL IMPACT OF ANY PLACE WE COULD PUT IT, UH, I THINK WITHIN THE CITY.
UM, SO I CERTAINLY WOULD, WOULD NOT WANT THE, THE NEIGHBORS TO THINK THAT ANY WAY THAT WE ARE NOT, UM, COGNIZANT OF ANY ISSUES.
AND IF ANY ISSUES DO COME UP, UM, STAFF WILL WILL BE THERE.
UH, SO WITH THAT, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND
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PLEASE VOTE.EXCUSE ME, MR. MAYOR, CAN WE TAKE A QUICK FIVE MINUTE BREAK? IT'S BEEN THREE HOURS AFTER THE START OF THE MEETING.
YEAH, BUT LET'S TRY TO KEEP IT FIVE MINUTES SO WE CAN, THANK YOU.
UH, I'M GOING TO, UH, CALL THE MEETING BACK TO ORDER WITH, UH, WE HAVE FOUR MEMBERS PRESENT, UH, MEMBER RODRIGUEZ.
UM, WITH THAT WE DO HAVE A, UH,
[11.4 Introduction and First Reading of Land Use Code Amendment to Restore Omitted Sections 18.10.060, 18.11.120, 18.22.020, 18.30.310, 18.30.340 & 345.]
WE GO TO 11 FOUR.THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, AN INTRODUCTION AND FIRST READING OF LAND USE CODE AMENDMENTS TO RESTORE OMITTED SECTIONS OF 18 POINT 10.060, UH, 18 POINT 0.1 20, UH, 1822, UH, POINT 22.0 20, UH, 18 POINT 30 POINT 310.
AND, UH, 1830 0.3 40 AND 3 45.
NOW WE'VE GOT THROUGH ALL THOSE NUMBERS, UH, WITH THAT, UH, STAFF REPORT.
UH,
SO, UH, WE DID A VERY SIMILAR PROCESS TO THIS.
I I WANNA SAY IT WAS LAST YEAR AT THIS POINT.
UH, WE UNFORTUNATELY HAD A BIT OF AN OVERLAP BETWEEN WHEN WE STARTED THE FOCUS GENERAL PLAN UPDATE PROCESS, AND THEN THERE WERE SOME SUBSEQUENT CODE AMENDMENTS THAT WENT THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL AFTER THE START OF THE FOCUS GENERAL PLAN UPDATE.
SO OUR CONSULTANTS THAT DID THAT PROCESS HAD THE LAND USE CODE THAT WAS IN PLACE AT THAT TIME WHEN THEY STARTED BACK IN 2021.
AND THESE SIX SECTIONS THAT WERE RELATED TO RULES OF MEASUREMENT, INTERIM USES, ALLOWED LAND, USES TATTOO PARLORS AND BODY PIERCING ESTABLISHMENTS AND MEDICAL MARIJUANA DISPENSARIES AND CULTIVATION.
THOSE SIX AMENDMENTS THAT WERE ADOPTED WERE, UH, THEY WERE IN THE CODE, THEY WERE ON OUR WEBSITE WHEN WE ADOPTED THE RESOLUTIONS AND ORDINANCES RELATED TO THE FOCUS GENERAL PLAN UPDATE, IT OMITTED THOSE SECTIONS BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T AROUND, UH, IN THE ORIGINAL PAPERWORK.
SO, UH, IT WAS AN OVERSIGHT CLERICAL ERROR.
UH, THERE IS NO CHANGES, THERE ARE NO CHANGES TO ANY OF THESE SIX SECTIONS.
THEY'RE EXACTLY HOW THEY WERE ADOPTED BY COUNCIL.
AND WE JUST NEED TO BASICALLY PUT THEM BACK IN SO THAT THEY WILL, UH, SHOW BACK UP ON OUR CITY WEBSITE IN THE MUNICIPAL CODE.
SO THAT'S REALLY THE CRUX OF IT.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, BUT AGAIN, THERE'S NO CHANGES TO THOSE SIX SECTIONS.
THIS IS JUST PUTTING THEM, RESTORING THEM BACK INTO THE CODE.
UM, ANY QUESTIONS ON THE, UH, STAFF REPORT? SEEING NONE, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I DO NOT THINK WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS.
AND WITH THAT, COULD WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? MOVE TO CLOSE MR. CHAIR.
SECOND DOUBLE CHECK AND LOOK AT MY SLIP SHOW ONE MORE TIME.
MAKE SURE I'M NOT MISSING ANYTHING.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
CAN YOU PLEASE PUSH HIM IN THERE? EDITH, YOU'RE STILL NOT IN THERE.
MAYOR, THERE'S ONE SPEAKER ON ZOOM.
IT WAS EMAILED OUT, BUT YOU GUYS ARE IN CLOSED SESSION.
WHEN THE VOTE'S UP, I CAN'T, YOU CAN'T HEAR ME OR SEE ME.
SO, UH, HER NAME IS, UH, PEGGY WALKER.
UM, I SEE THESE CHANGES RELATED TO PHYSICAL ATTRIBUTES OF MARIJUANA BUSINESSES HERE WITH THESE CODED AMENDMENTS.
AND AS THE PUBLIC HEALTH EDUCATOR INVOLVED IN YOUTH SUBSTANCE USE PREVENTION, THIS JUST SEEMED A GOOD TIME TO ASK FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION OF ADDITIONAL REC UH, REGULATIONS TO HELP PREVENT ADDICTION AND PSYCHOSIS, SCHIZOPHRENIA AND A GROWING NUMBER OF THOSE LIFE SHORTENING PHYSICAL AILMENTS THAT RESULT FROM TODAY'S MARIJUANA USE.
WITH ITS HIGHLY ENGINEERED THC, YOU DEMONSTRATED SUCH GREAT COGNIZANCE OF TOBACCO'S HARMS AND TOOK STEPS TO PROTECT YOU FROM NICOTINE WITH THE TRL ORDINANCE.
I URGE YOU TO BECOME EQUALLY INFORMED ABOUT THE HARMS OF THC, WHICH OFTEN EXCEEDS THOSE OF TOBACCO.
AND TO CONSIDER ENACTING REGULATIONS THAT GO
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BEYOND THESE CODES, UM, THAT APPLY NOT ONLY TO BUILDINGS, BUT PROTECT A PUBLIC LARGELY UNAWARE OF THE HEALTH RISKS OF HIGH POTENCY.THC REC REGULATIONS RECOMMENDED BY THE STATE AUDITOR PROVIDED GUIDELINE.
THEY INCLUDE RESTRICTIONS ON KID FRIENDLY MARKETING FLAVOR BANS AND THC CAPS.
UM, IN EUROPE THERE'S A 10% CAP.
WHY SHOULD WE ALLOW PRODUCTS WITH 90% AND HIGHER THC? UM, JUST ONE MORE COMMENT.
RANDOM RANDOMIZED CLINICAL TRIALS FAILED TO SUPPORT MARIJUANA FOR MOST MEDICAL CONDITIONS FOR WHICH IT'S PROMOTED.
UM, THE PUBLICATION JAMMA REPORTS AND 29% OF INDIVIDUALS WHO USE MARIJUANA FOR MEDICAL PURPOSES MET CRITERIA FOR ADDICTION IN THEIR STUDY.
IT JUST SEEMS THAT IT'S TIME TO RECOGNIZE THC AS PERNICIOUS AS NICOTINE AND TO ENACT APPROPRIATE REGULATIONS.
THANK YOU FOR HEARING MY CONCERNS.
WITH THAT, THAT CONCLUDES THE SPEAKERS FOR THAT COMMENT.
WITH THAT, COULD WE, UH, HAVE MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? CLOSE.
MOTION TO APPROVE UNANIMOUSLY.
THIS IS AN INTRODUCTION AND FIRST READING.
WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE? MOVE FOR MOVE FOR APPROVAL.
[12.1 Approval of an Amendment to the Lease and Operating Agreement Between the City of National City and American Golf Corporation for the Operation of the Las Palmas Municipal Golf Course to Extend the Term Five (5) years to October 31, 2030.]
GET INTO STAFF REPORTS.FIRST ONE IS APPROVAL OF AMENDMENT TO THE LEASE AND OPERATING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND NATIONAL CITY AND THE AMERICAN GOLF CORPORATION FOR THE OPERATION OF LOS PALM MUNICIPAL GOLF COURSE TO EXTEND THE TERM FIVE YEARS TO OCTOBER 31ST, 2030.
GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.
MIKE PACHECO, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY SERVICES.
AND THE ITEM YOU HAVE HERE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS THE APPROVAL OF THE AGREEMENT WITH AMERICAN GOLF CORPORATION.
AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO JUST POINT OUT, AMERICAN GOLF CORPORATION IS HERE TONIGHT AND THEY'LL BE HERE TO OUT ALSO ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS.
AND IF I COULD ADVANCE THE NEXT SLIDE HERE.
UM, SO THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION TO EXECUTE AN AMENDMENT TO THE AGREEMENT WITH AMERICAN GOLF CORPORATION FOR THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION OF THE NATIONAL CITY GOLF COURSE TO EXTEND THE AGREEMENT BY FIVE YEARS.
UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT A FEW KEY TERMS HERE.
UM, THIS IS ADDITIONAL FIVE YEARS, WHICH WILL GO TO OCTOBER 31ST, 2030.
AND THIS INCREASES THEIR RENT FROM 72,000 TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND TO $28,000 INCREASE.
AND THIS IS ALSO GOING TO INCREASE $15,000 WITH F AND B PRO SHOP, BRINGING UP THE, UM, GROSS REVENUES TO 10% STANDARD ACROSS THE BOARD.
AND THEN THERE'S A NEW FUND REQUIRING 2% OF THE MONTHLY GROSS INCOME FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.
UH, OF COURSE SUBJECT TO CITY APPROVAL BEFORE USE, WHICH IS ABOUT 40,000.
SO THIS WILL INCREASE THE, UH, REVENUE OF, UH, 83,000, UH, PER YEAR.
UH, JUST A COUPLE LAST THINGS HERE.
UM, THERE'S ALSO AN INDEMNITY INDEMNIFY AND, UH, HOLD HARMLESS ADDED.
UM, WE ALSO ARE GONNA REQUIRE ANNUAL CAPITAL EXPENDITURE REPORT AND FIVE YEAR CAPITAL NEEDS STUDY EVERY FIVE YEARS.
AND THEN MONTHLY MEETINGS SO THAT WE CAN DISCUSS, YOU KNOW, THE OPERATIONS REVENUE AND, AND THE MAINTENANCE SPECIFICALLY TO SEE WHAT WE NEED TO BE REPAIRING WITH THE 2% CAPITAL, UH, THAT WE'RE GONNA BE GETTING.
AND THEN AGAIN, THIS IS JUST GONNA ADD, UM, YOU KNOW, TO LOOK AT THE COURSE FEES AGAINST THE MARKET CONDITIONS.
AND AGAIN, THE RECOMMENDATION WE HAVE BEFORE YOU IS TO ADOPT RELU RESOLUTION TO EXECUTE THE AMENDMENT WITH THE AMERICAN GOLF CORPORATION.
AND WITH THAT, WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
YOU MAY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? YES.
SO THANK YOU, UH, MIKE AND WELCOME AGAIN, UH, ON BOARD 'CAUSE I KNOW IT'S PRETTY RECENT.
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ONE OF MY QUESTIONS, I HAD MY BRIEFING FOR STAFF HA HAVE YOU MIKE, UH, REVIEWED THE LAS PALMAS PARK AND FACILITIES VISION, UH, CONCEPT PLAN.AND HAS THAT BEEN IN, TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT IN THIS CONSIDERATION OF THE RENEWAL OF THE LEASE OR ADDING ANY OF THE AMENITIES IDENTIFIED IN THAT REPORT INTO THE DISCUSSIONS AND NEGOTIATIONS WITH AMERICAN GOLF? UM, I APOLOGIZE.
I HAVE NOT, I'M NOT TOO FAMILIAR WITH THAT DOCUMENT.
YOU'RE NEW, SO THAT'S WHY I, YEAH.
UM, SO SO YOU HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO SEE THAT OR, OR REVIEW THAT? NO.
YOU'VE BEEN ON THE JOB FOR A WHOLE TWO WEEKS.
YOU READ EVERYTHING
AND THEN IN TERMS OF ECONOMIC ANALYSIS, SO THE ORIGINAL LEASE WAS 83,000 PER YEAR.
SO THAT WAS CONSISTENT FROM SINCE 1984.
UM, SO OR WHAT WERE THE ESCALATORS, UH, SINCE THEN? BECAUSE, SO MY ISSUE, I THINK THIS IS WHAT 20, IS IT 26 OR 40 ACRES IS GOLF COURSE? BECAUSE ON THE CONCEPT PLAN I SEE 40 ACRES, BUT MAYBE, I THINK IT MIGHT BE 26 ACRES.
YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY, UM, GONNA REACH OUT TO, UH, AMERICAN GOLF.
'CAUSE I THINK THEY MIGHT KIND OF KNOW THAT RIGHT OFF THE TOP OF THEIR HEAD.
I DON'T IF JOSE HAS THAT ANSWER AND IF NOT, YOU CAN JUST CAN COME UP LATER AND ANSWER THAT.
BUT BEFORE YOU DO, I JUST 'CAUSE MY GENERAL COMMENT FOR STAFF AND JUST IN NEGOTIATIONS, IT'S A LOT OF CITY OWNED PUBLIC LAND AND VERY LITTLE REVENUE.
AND SO IT'S JUST MY CRITIQUE OF THIS IS THAT, UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH EFFORT, UM, THAT WE'VE PUT INTO NEGOTIATING BACK AND FORTH WITH, UH, AMERICAN GOLF ON REVENUE, UM, EXPANSION POTENTIAL.
LIKE, SO FOR EXAMPLE, THE BON THE BONITA GOLF COURSE, I THINK IT MIGHT BE TECHNICALLY THE CHULA VISTA GOLF COURSE, BUT ON BONITA ROAD, LIKE THEY HAVE A LOT OF AMENITIES.
THEY OPENED THEIR, UM, OUTDOOR AREA A COUPLE YEARS AGO.
I'VE ATTENDED A FEW EVENTS, UH, TO, UM, LIKE THEY HAVE MUSIC AND INVITE THE PUBLIC.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT LIKE NIGHTTIME EVENTS OR EVEN QUINCEANERA.
SO I, I JUST, I NOT SURE HOW MUCH OF THAT.
AND YOU'RE NEW AGAIN, SO LIKE I'M NOT, UH, POINTING THE FINGER AT YOU, BUT I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED.
SO CAN YOU TOUCH, UM, ON ANY OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS THAT YOU OR ANY OF YOUR PREDECESSORS HAVE HAD? YEAH, THANKS FOR THE QUESTION.
SO ARE YOU ASKING IF THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR PRIVATE KIND OF PARTIES THERE? YES.
WITHIN THIS, WELL, WITHIN THIS, BECAUSE IN THIS, UH, LEASE AGREEMENT, I, I'M JUST NOT SEEING KIND OF SOME OF THOSE AMENITIES.
I'VE TALKED TO STAFF BEFORE ABOUT THAT.
I DIDN'T REALLY SEE, UH, REFLECTED IN HERE.
I, AND AGAIN, I APPRECIATE ONE THING I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MAKE SURE, UM, I'VE KIND OF CLARIFIED THE, THE REVENUE PIECE.
SO LIKE THE LAST COUPLE FISCAL YEARS, UM, LIKE FISCAL YEAR 24, UM, WE HAD ALMOST 150,000 IN REVENUE.
UM, PREVIOUS WAS 200 AND ALMOST 220,000 IN REVENUE.
SO THAT WOULD MEAN IF WE, IF WE JUST STAYED STATUS QUO AND WE DIDN'T MAKE, YOU KNOW, MUCH MORE MONEY, IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE 300,000 PROJECTED REVENUE BECAUSE IT'S AN EXTRA 80,000 ON TOP OF THAT.
SO APOLOGIES FOR THE NUMBERS WEREN'T TOO CLEAR.
UM, AND THEN I DON'T KNOW IF THIS QUESTION FROM AMERICAN GOLF CORPORATION MIGHT BUILD TO ANSWER IF THEY THINK THERE'S ANY KIND OF SPECIAL PRIVATE RENTALS THAT WOULD, UM, BILL TO HELP.
I'LL, I'LL DEFER TO, UH, THIS IS JOSE MEMBER COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I'M THE GENERAL MANAGER OF NATIONAL CITY GOLF COURSE.
I HAD THE PLEASURE OF PRESENTING A COUPLE MONTHS, UH MM-HMM
AGO WITH YOU WHERE WE STAYED HERE A LITTLE LATE AT
WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT STAYING THAT LATE TONIGHT.
UM, ONE THING THAT WE'VE DONE A VERY EFFECTIVE JOB IN NATIONAL CITY GOLF COURSE, UH, IS THAT WE ARE, WE HAVE ESTABLISHED OURSELVES AS MEMORIAL ON A GOLF COURSE.
WE ARE A, A, A MULTI-GENERATIONAL COMMUNITY HUB.
TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, UH, UH, MR. BUSH, WE DO HOST A LOT OF EVENTS, SIR.
UH, AND A LOT OF NON GOLFING EVENTS, COMMUNITY EVENTS, MULTICULTURAL EVENTS, UM, PAMPA PAN PACIFIC AMERICAN HERITAGE EVENTS WHERE, UH, PEOPLE COME OUT.
UH, WE HAVE LIVE MUSIC, UH, UH, MEXICAN AMERICAN HERITAGE EVENTS WHERE WE INVITE LOCAL SCHOOLS TEACHERS.
WE HAVE, WE'VE HAD MARIACHIS, WE'VE HAD LOCAL NATIONAL CITY RESIDENTS.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE NATIONAL CITY PROUD FOR US.
IT'S NOT NATIONAL CITY GOLF COURSE, IT'S NATIONAL CITY COUNTRY CLUB.
LIKE, WE'RE REALLY PROUD, UH, WE INVITE LOCAL ARTISTS OUT HERE AND IT'S FREE ADMISSIONS TO ABSOLUTELY EVERYBODY.
NOW WE DO HAVE, WE'VE HOSTED, UH, A, A WIDE VARIETY OF DIFFERENT EVENTS, UM, FUNDRAISING EVENTS, UM, TOURNAMENTS, THAT'S GOLF, BUT ALSO, UM, AGAIN, FREE ADMISSION LIVE EVENTS FOR THE FOUNDATION SUCH AS CANCER RESEARCH.
UM, NOW WITH WHAT, WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON WITH IMMIGRATION ISSUES, WE JUST HOSTED AN EVENT WHERE SOMEBODY CAME OUT AND, UH, THEY RAISED SOME FUNDS TO, FOR PEOPLE THAT CAN'T AFFORD LEGAL SERVICES.
THEY CAME OUT AND WE, WE WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE THEM.
SO WE ARE VERY ACTIVE IN THE COMMUNITY AND IS IN USING OUR FACILITY IN A MUCH MORE THAN A GOLF ORIENTED ONLY, UH, FACILITY.
SO, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I THINK WE HAVE,
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UM, THERE'S ALWAYS ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT.UM, BUT I THINK WE, WE, WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ADHERE AND ANSWER A LOT OF OUR, UH, LOCAL RESIDENTS, UM, CONCERNS AND HELP THEM WITH, UH, VERY IMPORTANT SUBJECT MATTER.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WELL, WHILE WE GOT HIM UP HERE, LET'S SHOWER HIM WITH ANY QUESTIONS.
YOU HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, SO, SO THINK, I'M SORRY, WHAT'S THE NAME AGAIN? SO I CAN WRITE DOWN AND THEN CONNECT WITH YOU? JOSE GOMEZ.
UM, SO NO, THANK YOU JOSE FOR THAT INFORMATION.
UM, ONE OF THE CONCERNS I HAD, UH, WITH YOU ALL AS A TENANT IS, UM, UH, THE BRIDGE.
AND AS I UNDERSTAND IT, IN TALKING WITH OUR STAFF AND OUR LEGAL, UM, UH, OUR LEGAL TEAM IS YOU ARE, ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT.
I DO UNDERSTAND, UH, THE HESITATION ABOUT IMPLEMENTING THAT WITHOUT AN EXTENDED LEASE, BUT BECAUSE IT HAPPENED YEARS AGO, I, I JUST, IF YOU CAN EXPLAIN THAT, UM, UH, BECAUSE THAT WAS AN OBLIGATION AND IT WASN'T DONE.
AND NOW IT'S CREATING THIS LIABILITY THAT'S, YOU KNOW, PUTTING THE CITY IN JEOPARDY.
THAT CONCERNS ME OF, AND ESPECIALLY FOR EXTENDING A LEASE LIKE FIVE YEARS.
SO, CAN YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT YEAR THAT BRIDGE WAS TAKEN OUT? SO THE TIME THAT WAS, AND THEN WHY IT WASN'T, UH, DONE IMMEDIATELY? ABSOLUTELY.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT, UM, THAT BRIDGE, IF, IF, IF THERE WAS EVER SOMETHING I COULD GET FOR CHRISTMAS, IT'S THAT BRIDGE, UH, AS A GIFT THAT IT HAPPENED THREE YEARS AGO, SIR.
UM, ONE THING THAT WE'VE BEEN ACTUALLY VERY PROACTIVE, AND WE HAVE A LOT OF SUPPORT HERE FROM OUR LOCAL, UH, UH, PATRONS.
AS SOON AS IT HAPPENED, WE IMMEDIATELY CONTRACTED SOUTH BAY ENGINEERING FOR THEM TO START THE ENGINEERING, UH, THE, THE, THE PERMITTING, ET CETERA.
WE SUBMITTED PERMITS TO THE CITY.
UM, WE'VE BEEN IN CONTACT, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, CONSTANT COMMUNICATIONS BACK AND FORTH FROM THE CITY WHERE WE HAVE EMAILS GOING BACK AND FORTH.
UM, ONE OF THE MEN, ONE OF THE FIRST CONCERNS THAT THEY HAD WAS, UM, THEY DIDN'T WANT THE, THE OLD BRIDGE THAT IS STILL THERE, I GUESS.
UM, PART OF IT TOUCHES THE CREEK.
SO FOR ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS, THEY DON'T WANT IT TOUCHING THE CREEK ANYMORE.
WE SUBMITTED PLANS TO THOSE SPECIFICATIONS, IT GOT KICKED BACK.
THEY'RE LIKE, NO, NOW YOU GUYS NEED TO MAKE REVISIONS ON THIS.
WE'VE BEEN EXTREMELY QUICK ON CORRECTING ANYTHING THAT'S BEEN ASKED FROM US.
IT GOT KICKED BACK TO US AGAIN.
WE MADE, UH, AND JULIAN ALVAREZ WAS OUR MAIN ENGINEER.
WE ACTUALLY HAD A PHONE MEETING WITH, UH, UH, I, I DON'T REMEMBER THE, THE CITY ENGINEER THAT WAS ASSISTING US WITH THIS.
UM, AND WE SAID LIKE, HEY GUYS, LIKE THIS HAS ALREADY, IT'S BEEN KICKED BACK TWICE.
WE'RE GONNA MAKE THESE CORRECTIONS.
WHAT'S GOING ON? WE HAVE SINCE THEN, SUBMITTED IT FOR A THIRD TIME.
UM, TRACY WAS ASSISTING US WITH THIS.
WE'VE BEEN IN COMMUNICATIONS WITH THEM MOST RECENTLY.
UM, WE, THE, THE MOST RECENT INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE IS, IT NOW GOT KICKED TO A THIRD PARTY, UM, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT THAT THE CITY, IT'S MV FIVE ENGINEERING.
THIS IS ACTUALLY THE SECOND TIME THAT IT'S BEEN KICKED OUT TO, UH, OR SENT OUT TO A, UH, SET, A THIRD PARTY ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.
WE'VE BEEN CONTACTING WITH YVONNE, WHO WORKS FROM THAT.
I'VE BEEN REALLY, UH, DILIGENT IN FOLLOWING UP, LIKE, WHAT'S THE STATUS WITH IT? THEY, SHE TOLD US THAT SHE FOUGHT, SHE, THEY RECEIVED A HUGE CASE FILE OF DIFFERENT PROJECTS FROM THE CITY AND THAT THEY WOULD EVENTUALLY GET TO US.
SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WE HAVEN'T PROACTIVELY SUBMITTING PLANS.
WE JUST NEED CITY APPROVAL FOR THE PERMITTING.
THAT WAY WE CAN FINALLY MOVE FORWARD.
SO, SORRY, ARE YOU SAYING THAT, UM, AND WE'LL TALK WITH CITY STAFF LEADER, SO I'M NOT POINTING THE FINGERS, BUT THAT THE DELAY HAS BEEN ON OUR END AND YOU'RE NOT THE FIRST ONE TO SAY THAT.
SO I'VE HEARD THAT BEFORE SIMPLY AND, AND ONE, ONE THING THAT WE'VE A, WE'VE CONSTANTLY MADE IT CLEAR AMERICAN GOLF.
UM, MY VP PAUL BALLAM, JOY SHELTON, WE'VE ALWAYS SAID THAT OUR MAIN GOAL IS TO GET THAT REPAIRED FOR OUR PATRONS.
AND YES, THERE IS A CITY, THERE IS A SAFETY ISSUE.
THAT'S ACTUALLY ONE OF THE MAJOR THINGS THAT WE'VE ALWAYS PRESENTED.
AND WE HAVE EMAILS AND CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD REPEATEDLY SAYING LIKE, HEY GUYS, CAN WE GET THE PERMIT BACK? CAN WE GET IT APPROVED? THAT WOULD BE START THE NEXT PHASE.
SO I HOPE I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION.
YOU DID ON THAT, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR CANDOR ON, ON, ON THAT.
THAT'S THE QUESTIONS I HAVE FOR YOU GUYS.
I THANK YOU MR. GOMEZ FOR BEING BEFORE US.
I HAVE QUESTIONS AND THESE ARE, UM, SUBMITTED BY, UM, ONE OF MY FAVORITE SPEAKERS, MR. GOTCH.
I WILL BE ASKING QUESTIONS BASED OFF OF THE EMAIL THAT HE SUBMITTED EARLIER TODAY.
UH, AND JUST IT, IT PERTAINS TO THE CONTRACT.
UM, I UNDERSTAND THE LENGTH OF THE CONTRACT IS FOR FIVE YEARS AND, AND I JUST WANNA GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE PLANS ARE FOR BY AMERICAN GOLF WITHIN THESE FIVE YEARS, AND WHETHER SOME OF THESE REQUESTS FROM ONE OF YOUR PATRONS OR, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE, THE GOLFERS THAT, THAT GOLFS AT YOUR PLACE, UM, WHETHER THERE'S PLANS WITHIN THESE FIVE YEARS TO COVER SOME OF THIS.
UM, WHAT IS YOUR, YOUR PLAN FOR TRIMMING TREES? HOW OFTEN ARE THEY TRIMMED? WHAT, HOW DO YOU TAKE CARE OF, OF THE TREES ON YOUR
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FACILITY? SO WE ARE VERY PROACTIVE IN, UM, IDENTIFYING ANY TREE WORK THAT NEEDS TO, WE USUALLY CON CONTRACT OUT HERE.IT'S A THIRD PARTY COMPANY THAT WE, UH, AMERICAN GOLF, UH, CONTRACT OUT FOR THEM TO DO IT, UM, WHENEVER LOCAL STORMS THAT HAPPEN.
SO TREE WORK, IT'S AN ONGOING, PROACTIVE WAY THROUGHOUT, THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
UM, MR. SACH, HE'S, HE'S ONE OF OUR STRONG PATIENTS WITH, PLAYS HER, UH, REGULARLY.
SO WE WERE ABLE TO ADDRESS WITH HIM A LOT OF THE CONCERNS THAT HE HAD ON THOSE, ON THOSE EMAILS.
UM, BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, TREE WORK, IT'S AN ONGOING PROCESS.
WE IDENTIFY IT, AND IF WE HAVE CROWN POINT CLIPPERS OUT THERE, I WOULD SAY FOUR OR FIVE TIMES A YEAR, I WOULD SAY IT'S, IT'S SLOW, BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE PROACTIVE IN TRIMMING.
IF WE SEE ANY, UH, TREES THAT NEED TO BE REMOVED, WE GET, WE HAVE 'EM REMOVED.
THEN AGAIN, SAFETY OF OUR, OF OUR GOLFERS IS ALWAYS AT THE, AT THE FOREFRONT OF WHAT WE DO.
WHAT ABOUT THE, UM, CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME THE, THE EQUIPMENT THAT YOU USE FOR THE GROUNDS KEEPING? YES.
UH, THE MOWER AND THE ROLLER MACHINE.
UM, IS THAT EQUIPMENT, ARE THERE PLANS TO HAVE SOME OF THAT EQUIPMENT REFRESHED OR REPLACED? UM, WHAT IS THE CONDITION OF THAT EQUIPMENT CURRENTLY?