Aug 19, 2025 City Council

TO GO AHEAD AND, UH, START THE MEETING.

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

AS YOU CAN TELL, WE GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE, SO ANY CONVERSATIONS, IT'S GONNA MAKE IT VERY HARD FOR PEOPLE TO, TO HEAR OR WHATEVER.

SO GONNA ASK FOR EVERYONE TO PLEASE HELP US OUT ON THIS.

UM, BEFORE WE PROCEED, I'M GONNA REQUEST THAT THE INTERPRETER TAKE A MOMENT TO EXPLAIN THE CITY'S INTERPRETATION SERVICES THAT WILL BE OFFERED FOR THIS EVENING CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UH, THE FOLLOWING INSTRUCTIONS WILL BE IN SPANISH VO, AND THANK YOU, MAYOR.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AS A REMINDER, IF WE COULD PLEASE SILENCE ALL CELL PHONES OR ANY OTHER DEVICES IN THE CHAMBER SO WE DON'T END UP WITH ALL KIND OF DANCE, MUSIC AND EVERYTHING ELSE GOING ON.

COUNCIL MEMBER RODRIGUEZ.

UM, WITH THAT I'D LIKE TO CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER A LIVE WEBCAST OF THE MEETING WILL CAN BE VIEWED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE.

IF YOU'RE WATCHING THE SPANISH VERSION OF THE MEETING, UH, LIVE VIA ZOOM, INTERPRETER INSTRUCTIONS WILL APPEAR IN THE CHAT BOX OF THE BOTTOM OF YOUR SCREEN.

FOR THOSE WHO PREFER TO SIT IN THE CHAMBER, HEADSETS ARE AVAILABLE TO PROVIDE LIVE SPANISH TRANSLATION, PLEASE SEE DEPUTY CLERK, UH, DEPUTY CITY CLERK TO CHECK OUT A HEADSET.

THE NOTICE AGENDA AND INFORMATION ON THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY'S WEBSITE INFORM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT THEY MAY SUBMIT A GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT OR A PUBLIC COMMENT, AND ON SPECIFIC ITEM IN A NUMBER OF WAYS, EITHER THROUGH IN PERSON, UH, IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS BY SUBMITTING A SALMON COLORED SLIP.

ONE OF THESE, OR BY ZOOM, BY FREE REGISTERING ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE, NO LATER THAN TWO HOURS, UH, BEFORE THE MEETING OR EMAILING NO LATER THAN EIGHT, I'M SORRY, FOUR HOURS BEFORE THE MEETING.

AND, UH, ALL WRITTEN COMMENTS RECEIVED ARE DISTRIBUTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL PRIOR TO THE MEETING AND PUBLISHED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE IF RECEIVED BY THE DEADLINE.

SO WITH THAT, COULD WE HAVE, UH, ROLL CALL PLEASE? COUNCIL MEMBER MOLINA PRESENT.

PRESENT.

COUNCIL MEMBER ANI HERE, VICE MAYOR BUSH.

HERE, MAYOR MORRISON.

UH, PRESENT.

WE HAVE A QUORUM.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

IF WE PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

REMAIN STANDING FOR THE INVOCATION.

AND, UH, UH, MEMBER IMANI, WOULD YOU LEAD US? PLEASE, PLEASE STAND READY, BEGIN ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH NATION, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INMI WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

ALMIGHTY GOD.

WE THANK YOU FOR THE PRIVILEGE OF BEING HERE THIS EVENING TO PARTICIPATE IN THE WORKINGS OF LOCAL CITY GOVERNMENT.

WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR BLESSINGS.

WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR KINDNESS AND FOR YOUR MERCY.

WE ASK THAT YOU BLESS THIS MEETING, THAT YOU VISIT US HERE AND GUIDE OUR WORDS, GUIDE OUR THOUGHTS, AND LEAD US TO THE APPROPRIATE DECISIONS HERE.

GOD, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.

WE THANK YOU FOR FREEDOM.

WE THANK YOU FOR NATIONAL CITY.

WE THANK YOU FOR THE LEADERS HERE.

WE ASK ALL OF THIS IN JESUS' NAME.

IF YOU DO HAVE SPEAKER SLIPS AND YOU'RE WANTING TO SPEAK TO AN ITEM, PLEASE GET 'EM IN WITHIN THE NEXT FIVE MINUTES OR SO, AND AFTER THAT, WE'LL BE CLOSING IT FOR PER SPEAKER SLIPS SO THAT WE CAN CONDUCT THE, UH, THE MEETING IN ORDERLY FASHION.

UM,

[5. PUBLIC COMMENT]

AND AT THIS TIME, WE WILL GO INTO PUBLIC COMMENT.

WE'RE GONNA HEAR PUBLIC COMMENTS ON ITEMS OR MATTERS THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA.

AND, UH, SO A COUPLE OF THINGS JUST FOR ORDER.

UH, WE WILL BE, UH, LIMITING TO TWO MINUTES PER PERSON.

WE HAVE A LARGE NUMBER OF SPEAKERS.

ALSO, ACCORDING TO OUR POLICY, WE WILL BE HEARING FOR THE FIRST 30 MINUTES.

AT THE END OF 30 MINUTES.

THOSE THAT HAVE NOT HAVE NOT BEEN CALLED UP, THEY WILL BE CALLED UP AT THE END OF THE MEETING TO FINISH, UH, SO THAT WE CAN GET ONTO THE BUSINESS ITEMS. AND WE'LL FINISH THE, UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THE END OF THE MEETING THEN.

SO WITH THAT, I WILL BE, UH, AND ZOOM WILL COME AT THE END

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ALSO.

THE, UH, SO I'M GONNA CALL UP THREE PEOPLE AT A TIME.

PLEASE COME UP, BE IN THE, UH, UH, IN THE, THE CENTER AREA HERE.

THAT WAY WE'RE NOT HAVING TO WAIT, UH, UH, EACH PERSON AND YOU'LL, UH, IT WILL HELP THINGS GO A LOT SMOOTHER.

WITH THAT, UM, WE WILL HAVE, UH, FOR THE FIRST THREE TRUTH, UH, BRIAN CLAPPER AND ALICIA MORRISON.

HI.

I AM TIRED OF PEOPLE AND ORGANIZ ORGANIZATIONS SUING AND OR STRONG ARMING THE CITY, ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE'S REAL NEFARIOUS ACTIVITIES GOING UNADDRESSED.

HOW IS IT OKAY THAT THE CITY HAS A POLITICAL UNION SLUMLORD OPERATING WITHIN ITS JURISDICTION? WHY WON'T ACE PALOMA'S ALLIES ADDRESS THE COMPLEX THAT MADE ENOUGH MONEY TO FUNNEL $21,500 TO A CAMPAIGN? RHETORICAL QUESTION.

NOT LONG AGO ACE TARGETED CHULA VISTA.

THEN THEY CAME AFTER IMPERIAL BEACH PROTESTING AT COUNCIL MEMBERS' HOMES WHILE THEY'RE TRYING TO SLEEP.

AND WITH THE USELESS SO-CALLED TENANT PROTECTIONS GARBAGE, UM, IT DID, THE FAKE SOLUTION DID NOTHING.

IT GAVE AN EXTRA RENT CHECK THAT DID NOT HELP THE RESIDENTS AFFORD TO MOVE, LET ALONE AFFORD TO PAY MORE RENT SOMEWHERE ELSE.

THE ACE INSTITUTE HAS A BOARD OF DIRECTORS, A LEGAL TEAM, AND AT LEAST 33 STATEWIDE STAFFERS.

THEY TALK ABOUT EMAIL PITCHES TO JOURNALISTS, NARRATIVE WORK, AND TRAINING OVER 300 RESIDENTS AS MEDIA SPOKESPEOPLE.

YELLOW SHIRTS, MAKE SURE JOSE STAMPS YOUR TIME CARDS ON YOUR WAY OUT FOR THE PUBLIC RECORD.

UM, THESE WELL-FUNDED POLITICAL ORGANIZATIONS DON'T REALLY CARE ABOUT THOSE VULNERABLE RENTERS.

THEY ORGANIZE FOR THEIR OWN GREEDY ENDS.

THEY SIMPLY SEEK POWER.

JUST LIKE THE BUILDING CONSTRUCTION TRADES COUNCIL AND CAROL KIM WITH THEIR PROGRESSIVE LABOR ALLIANCE PACK AND NATIONAL CITY APARTMENTS RAKING IN AN AVERAGE OF 5.2 MILLION A YEAR IN UNTAXED RENT AND LAUNDRY PAYMENTS ON THE BACKS OF RENTERS LIVING IN UNSANITARY CONDITIONS WHILE THEIR OWN BANK BIG SALARIES WITH ENOUGH LEFTOVER TO FUNNEL HUNDREDS OF THOUSAND DOLLARS TO CORRUPT PEOPLE LIKE TODD GORIA AND TO KEEP THE GAS TAX, UM, CANDIDATES FUNDED BY THE SLUM MONEY ARE NOT THE HEROES AS ADVERTISED.

THEY DO NOT REPRESENT THE DOWNTRODDEN AND VULNERABLE LIKE THEY CLAIM.

THEY'RE ACTUALLY THE IRON FIST AND CORRUPT INEQUITABLE SYSTEM.

THEY SAY THEY OPPOSE.

WELL, I OPPOSE ALL FAKES AND SNAKES AND THANK YOU FOR EYE NEWS SOURCE FOR REPORTING THAT STORY SO WE CAN KNOW ABOUT THE DETAILS.

AND SPEAKING OF CREATURES, THIS IS FOR DITO.

HERE IS WHAT A CHINCHILLA LOOKS LIKE.

, IT'S LIKE A RAT, I GUESS, .

UM, YOU CAN NOW DRAW ONE ON THAT $196 FOUR-LEGGED EASEL YOU RECENTLY BOUGHT.

AND SAFETY RISK, DISTURBING THE PIECE THAT REQUIRES EXTRA LAW ENFORCEMENT RESOURCES.

OKAY, NEXT WE HAVE, UH, BRIAN CLAPPER, FOLLOWED BY ALICIA MORRISON, FOLLOWED BY LILIANA ARMA.

UH, THANK YOU MAYOR MORRISON, UH, CITY COUNCIL, STAFF AND COMMUNITY.

I'M HERE TONIGHT TO TALK, UH, JUST TO, UH, I LEFT SOME FLYERS WITH TANYA AND YOU'LL GET THEM PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT LATER.

BUT, UH, WE'RE TRYING TO ORGANIZE AND, AND, AND DO A LITTLE BIT OF WORK WITH THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY AND THE GRANGER HALL.

SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE A CLEANUP ON SATURDAY, AUGUST 30TH FROM 10 TO ONE.

WE'D LIKE TO INVITE YOU ALL IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME AND HELP US CLEAN UP AND CLEAN THE OUTSIDE AND, AND, AND GET IT LOOKING, LOOKING BETTER.

AND THEN WE WE'RE PLANNING ON SEPTEMBER THE 27TH, AND YOU'LL ALL GET A FLYER.

WE'RE GONNA HAVE A, A PICNIC POTLUCK KIND OF DEAL WHERE WE'RE GONNA GET THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER AND TRY TO GET SOME, A LITTLE MOVEMENT AND A LITTLE SUPPORT TO HOPEFULLY RESTORE AND GET THIS BACK TO WHERE WE CAN HAVE WEDDINGS AND QUINCEANERAS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT, THAT THE COMMUNITY NEEDS.

AND WE'RE REALLY GONNA WORK HARD IN GETTING THE PEOPLE POWER TO DO THIS.

WE'D LIKE TO INVITE YOU ALL TO COME TO THAT ON SEPTEMBER THE 27TH AND AUGUST 30TH FOR THE CLEANUP, SO THAT WE CAN POSSIBLY RESTORATE THAT, RESTORE THAT BUILDING AND, AND, AND USE IT IN THE COMMUNITY.

WE ALL LOVE IT AND WE ALL HAVE STORIES ABOUT IT.

SO PLEASE COME AND SEE US.

CONTACT ME IF YOU WANT ANY MORE INFORMATION AND PLEASE READ THE FLYER.

AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOU BE IN THERE.

AND WE'RE GONNA ASK YOU ALL TO SPEAK THAT DAY ON THE 27TH AT THE POTLUCK AND SPEAK ON SOME POSITIVE THINGS AND SOME ENCOURAGEMENT TO GET THIS DONE.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OKAY, NEXT WE HAVE, UH, ALICIA MORRISON, FOLLOWED BY ARMENTO, FOLLOWED BY TED GODSHAW.

GOOD EVENING.

VALUES ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO THE PUBLIC AND IT CAN BE EASY TO OVERLOOK THE FUNDAMENTAL FACT THE PUBLIC EXPECTS AND DESERVES ITS PUBLIC SERVANTS.

TO SERVE THE PUBLIC'S INTEREST, NOT PRIVATE OR POLITICAL, AS PUBLIC OFFICIALS, YOU HAVE TO SORT THROUGH COMPETING CONSIDERATIONS AND DETERMINE THE RIGHT THING TO DO FOR THE PUBLIC'S INTEREST.

THERE IS A BUSINESS LOCATED AT 25 11 SWEETWATER ROAD, THE IN CITY SPORTS LOUNGE THAT NEEDS TO BE AUDITED FOR SAFETY FOR ITS PATRONS AND THE NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE NEIGHBORING RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY WITH HIGH DENSITY TRAFFIC, NOISE, POLLUTION, HEALTH

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REFER TO THE PHOTOS WITHIN THE BODY OF THIS PUBLIC COMMENT.

I HAVE SUBMITTED A PRA NO COMPLAINING.

I WANT TO KNOW THE OCCUPANCY LOAD THAT IS PERMITTED.

I WANNA KNOW THE BUILDING PERMIT.

I WANNA SEE THE INSPECTIONS AND THE FINAL SIGN OFF.

LASTLY, I WANT NATIONAL CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT TO STEP UP THEIR PATROLLING ON SWEETWATER ROAD AROUND THAT ESTABLISHMENT THAT IS A NUISANCE TO THE NEIGHBORING RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY.

COORDINATE A SOBRIETY CHECKPOINT WITH THE CHP.

I HAVE ALREADY, UH, BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE SHERIFF PATROLLING THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY OF LINCOLN ACRES.

IT IS TIME FOR NATIONAL CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT TO STEP UP AND DO THEIR PART TO PROTECT AND SERVE.

JUST FOR THE RECORD, THIS IS NOT AN ISOLATED INCIDENT.

IT HAPPENS EVERY WEEKEND.

PLEASE REFER TO THE PHOTOS.

THERE'S URINE FROM TWO DRUNKEN WOMEN, UH, PEEING ACROSS THE STREET FROM MY HOUSE.

THEY USE A WIPE, LEFT IT IN THE STREET.

THERE'S DAYLIGHT, UH, DAYLIGHTING LAWS BEING VIOLATED.

TWO VEHICLES BLOCKING A CROSSWALK HAD TO BE TOWED CODE BRAKE LIGHTS FROM THE CHP BECAUSE THEY RESPONDED WITHIN EIGHT MINUTES OF MY CALL VERSUS NATIONAL CITY.

I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THEY, THEY SHOWED UP.

SEVEN 11 LOT IS CLOSED AND THEY'RE UTILIZING THEIR PARKING FOR THEIR PATRON'S BUSINESS.

UH, NEXT WE HAVE ARMENTA, FOLLOWED BY TED GODSHAW, FOLLOWED BY WENDY EGAN.

OKAY, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

SERVING AND SHARING INFORMATION WITH OUR COMMUNITY IS KEY TO OUR COLLECTIVE BETTERMENT.

THE ALLIANCE OF CALIFORNIANS FOR COMMUNITY, UH, EMPOWERMENT OR ACE RECENTLY ORGANIZED AN EVENT AT KIMBALL PARK TO HELP THE RENTERS BETTER UNDERSTAND THESE RIGHTS.

AN EFFORT THAT SPEAKS TO AN IMPORTANT COMMUNITY NEED.

AND IT IS REALLY APPRECIATED BY ALL.

AT THE SAME TIME, THOUGH, THE WAY THE EVENT WAS CARRIED OUT ALSO RAISES QUESTIONS ABOUT CONSISTENCY IN HOW OUR CITY APPLIES TO ITS OWN RULES.

FOOD WAS SERVED, LOUDSPEAKERS WERE USED, AND AN ASSEMBLY TOOK PLACE WITHOUT A CITY REQUIRED TEMPORARY USE PERMIT.

THE SITUATION HIGHLIGHTS A BROADER CONCERN AND NECESS AND NECESSARILY ABOUT ACE'S INTENTIONS, NOT NECESSARILY ACE'S INTENTIONS, BUT ABOUT WHETHER THE CITY IS ENFORCING ITS GUIDELINES EVENLY AND TRANSPARENTLY.

ADDING TO THIS, A SITTING COUNCIL MEMBER, JOSE RODRIGUEZ, WAS PRESENT AND ACTIVELY PARTICIPATING IN GRILLING AND SERVING FOOD.

WHEN CITY OFFICIALS ARE INVOLVED IN EVENTS THAT DON'T FOLLOW ESTABLISHED REQUIREMENTS, IT'S UNDERSTANDABLY LEADS TO THE PUBLIC TO WONDER IF THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS FOR SOME GROUPS, WHILE OTHERS MUST GO THROUGH THE FULL PROCESS.

IF EXEMPTIONS EXIST, I RESPECTFULLY ASK, WHERE CAN THE PUBLIC FIND THIS LIST? AND HOW CAN COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS APPLY FOR THIS SAME TREATMENT? NONPROFITS ACROSS NATIONAL CITY WORK VERY HARD TO COMPLY WITH REGULATIONS, FUNDRAISE TO COVER PERMIT COSTS, AND FOLLOW ALL THE RULES, ESPECIALLY THE LARGE EVENTS FOR CARNIVALS, FAITH, FAITH BASED EVENTS, AND EVEN OUR UP UPCOMING SALUTE VETERANS.

I URGE THE COUNCIL, ESPECIALLY COUNCILMAN RODRIGUEZ, TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CLARIFY THE RULES, ENSURE ALL APPLICATIONS ACROSS ALL ORGANIZATIONS, AND REAFFIRM THAT CITY CODES EQUALLY APPLY TO EVERYONE.

ALRIGHT, UH, NEXT WE HAVE TED GODSHAW, FOLLOWED BY WENDY EGAN, FOLLOWED BY JEFFREY SCHROCK.

AND LET ME JUST STATE THAT AFTER THE NEXT, AFTER THIS SPEAKER, WE WILL BE CUTTING OFF ANY NEW SLIPS.

SO IF YOU HAVE SLIPS, THEY NEED TO BE TURNED IN, UH, WITHIN THIS NEXT COUPLE MINUTES.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

COUNSELORS TED GOTCHU HERE ON JULY 1ST.

I SENT YOU ALL AN EMAIL.

SO THIS, UH, ADDRESS BY ME COULD BE CALLED HOW YOU SPENT YOUR SUMMER VACATION .

THAT EMAIL INCLUDED FOUR POINTS, AND NO ONE UP HERE HAS ADDRESSED THOSE FOUR POINTS SINCE THAT DATE.

POINT NUMBER ONE, I RECOMMEND THAT YOU EACH IDENTIFY FIVE NON-CITY OWNED PARCELS IN THE CITY THAT YOU WILL WORK ON TO DEVELOP COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES, WHICH WILL BRING SALES TAX TO THE CITY.

NUMBER TWO, PLEASE REVIEW ALL CCL, FIX REPORTS IN THE QUEUE, GET THE DATA AND SHARE IT WITH THE PUBLIC.

YOU HAVE PROBABLY NOT BEEN FOLLOWING THESE REPORTS FROM THE COMMUNITY FOR A LONG TIME.

LET'S HEAR FROM YOU ABOUT THE WAY YOU CAN REDUCE THE NEED FOR THE PUBLIC TO REPORT ISSUES AND GET THE NATIONAL CITY STAFF TO HANDLE THE DIFFICULT WORK OUT THERE IN A MORE TIMELY MANNER.

NUMBER THREE, LET'S HEAR FROM EACH OF YOU ABOUT YOUR FIRST FIVE WAYS OF SAVING THE CITY MONEY THAT WE DID NOT HEAR ABOUT DURING

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THE BUDGET MEETINGS.

I HEARD SOME OF YOU CLAIM THAT YOU ARE BEING PRUDENT.

WELL, WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO FOR THE NEXT YEAR, IN THE NEXT FOUR YEARS? PROVE YOUR CLAIM.

AND NUMBER FOUR, WHILE ONE COUNSELOR STATED ON HIS FACEBOOK PAGE THAT THE BUDGET MEETINGS WERE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME UP AND HELP HAVE THE COMMUNITY COME UP AND HELP PRIORITIZE NEEDS, YOU HAVE ELIMINATED A POSITION CALLED THE ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE OFFICER BY NOT FUNDING IT, BY NOT BY HAVING IT FUNDED AND IN THE BUDGET FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS AND NEVER HIRING A PERSON.

AND NOW THAT POSITION HAS BEEN ELIMINATED.

THAT POSITION WAS ASKED FOR BY THE COMMUNITY AS WELL AS THE AMORTIZATION PROGRAM, WHICH IF UTILIZED, COULD DO SOME REAL GOOD IN NATIONAL CITY AND OLD TOWN NATIONAL CITY.

THESE ARE PRIORITY COMMUNITY NEEDS.

AND WILL YOU TAKE THE LEAD TO PROTECT OUR HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENT? OR IS EVERYTHING IN NATIONAL CITY JUST ABOUT THE MONEY? OKAY, NEXT WE HAVE, UH, AND AS A, UH, THE, UH, GENERAL COMMENT SLIPS NOW.

UM, WE WILL NOT BE ACCEPTING ANYMORE AT THIS POINT.

UM, WENDY EGAN, FOLLOWED BY JEFFREY SCHROCK, FOLLOWED BY NEIL RIDGE.

READY? GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND CITY STAFF.

FIRST OFF, I WANNA SINCERELY THANK EACH OF YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK AND DEDICATION TO OUR COMMUNITY.

ALL OF YOU FRIENDS OF MINE FROM OUTSIDE NATIONAL CITY OFTEN TELL ME HOW SPECIAL AND WELCOMING OUR COMMUNITY FEELS.

AND I KNOW THAT'S A REFLECTION OF THE LEADERSHIP AND COMMITMENT ALL OF YOU SHOW.

I ALSO WANNA TAKE A MOMENT TO PERSONALLY THANK JOSIE, THE MAYOR'S ASSISTANTS.

I DON'T KNOW HER PERSONALLY, BUT AT SEVERAL COMMUNITY OF EVENTS, WE'VE CROSSED PATHS.

HER GENEROSITY IN DONATING A WHEELCHAIR FOR ONE OF OUR SPECIAL NEEDS CHILDREN IN CHIHUAHUA, TRULY TOUCH OUR HEARTS.

THE ACT OF KINDNESS SHOWS THE HEART OF NATIONAL CITY.

I'D ALSO LIKE TO FOLLOW UP ON AN IMPORTANT NEED.

WE URGENTLY NEED A SPACE FOR OUR CHILDREN WITH SPECIAL NEEDS.

I WANNA CLARIFY THAT I NOW AM OFFICIALLY 5 0 1 3 C.

THANKS TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO SUPPORT, WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO REACH MORE FAMILIES.

AND I PROMISE TO CONTINUE WORKING RELENTLESSLY WITH A, WITH PARENTS TO SECURE A LOCATION.

OUR VISION IS FOR AN INDOOR SENSORY PLAYGROUND WHERE WE, WHERE ALL OF OUR CHILDREN CAN FEEL U INCLUDED, SAFE AND SUPPORTED, AND HAVE ACCESS TO RECREATIONAL PROGRAMS JUST LIKE OUR NEURO TYPICAL KIDS.

AT OUR LAST COMMUNITY CLEANUP, I MET A YOUNG CHILD WHO STRUGGLES EVEN TO WALK ON GRASS AND SAND.

AND LASTLY, I WANNA SAY THIS, OUR COMMUNITY IS TIRED OF BEING SHOWN IN A NEGATIVE LIGHT.

IT'S TIME WE SET OUR DIFFERENCES ASIDE AND COME TOGETHER FOR THE GREATER GOOD OF OUR KIDS.

I WELCOME ALL OF YOU TO BE PART OF INCLUSIVE KIDS NETWORK.

OUR KIDS DESERVE TO SEE UNITY AND INCLUSION IN OUR COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU JEFFREY SCHROCK TO BE FOLLOWED BY NEIL RIDGE TO BE FOLLOWED BY ED NIETO.

GOOD EVENING MAYOR.

COUNCILS AND STAFF, NATIONAL CITY RESIDENTS.

FIRST LEMME SAY, I HOPE WE HAD A NICE SUMMER.

UM, I'M HERE TO INFORM SOME PEOPLE THAT ON THE NIGHT OF FOURTH JULY, I WAS VERBALLY HARASSED AND ABUSED BY OUR MAYOR.

HE KNOWS IT'S THE TRUTH.

'CAUSE THE NIGHT BEFORE THAT, WHEN I WAS WALKING UP TO THE CITY BOOTH, I SAW YOU TALKING TO YOUR HOMELESS STUDY FRIEND JOAN, WHO YOU THINK HER OPINION IS SO GREAT.

HOW DISGUSTING.

I I I READ HER LIPS AND SHE WAS SAYING, HERE COMES JEFFREY.

LIKE SHE'S YOUR PRIVATE SECURITY GUARD.

THAT WAS PRETTY RUDE AND OFFENSIVE.

AND THAT NIGHT YOU WENT ON YOUR LITTLE TIRADE AND PITCHED YOUR LITTLE FIT, THREATENED ME WITH POLICE.

AND THAT WILL BE THE LAST TIME YOU EVER THREATENED ME WITH POLICE.

BECAUSE NEXT YEAR I WILL CAMPAIGN AS STRONG AND HARD AS I CAN AGAINST YOU WITH EVERY BUT UP, BLOOD, SWEAT, AND TEARS I HAVE IN MY BODY.

YOU DISRESPECTED ME.

I HELPED YOU SAVE YOUR C SALES STATUS 2008 AND GOT YOU REELECTED.

AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE G*****N TRUTH.

EXCUSE ME, LORD, REFUSE ME YOUR NAME IN VAIN, BUT YOU BRING OUT THE WORST IN ME, SIR, YOU ARE A HARASSING INDIVIDUAL YOURSELF.

YOU'RE TRASH.

YOU, YOU DON'T BELONG HERE.

YOU'RE A PLASTIC EXAMPLE OF TOO MUCH EXPERIENCE.

YOU NEED TO BE TAKEN OUTTA POWER BECAUSE YOU THINK YOU'RE SOME G*****N KING AND YOU'RE NOT.

I CAN'T STAND YOU ANYMORE.

YOU THINK JOAN IS YOUR FRIEND.

SHE'S A HOMELESS BAG LADY.

THAT LAWYER AT CITY HALL ALL THE TIME AND THINKS BAD THINGS ABOUT ME.

YOU'RE WORSE THAN GAVIN NEWSOM.

AND HE'S A WORTHLESS PIECE OF FILTH.

YOU HAVE NO PASSION NOW FOR REDEVELOPMENT.

YOU HAVE NO PASSION FOR ANYTHING YOU DID.

YOU'RE NOT A SAME MAN.

I MET YEARS AGO.

YOU, YOU FIZZLED OUT.

YOU

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DON'T HAVE NO PASSION.

LOOK AT THE CORNER, 18TH AND AND L FOLKS.

HE SAYS, OH, I CAN'T GET THE DEVELOPERS TO DO ANYTHING.

I CAN'T FORCE 'EM TO DEVELOP THEIR PROPERTY.

BUT YOU CAN LABEL THEM DE LINK THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND FIND THEM.

BUT NO THANK YOU.

YOU DON'T WANNA DO THAT BECAUSE YOU HAVE STRONG TIES TO CONSTRUCTION IS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, JEFFREY.

NEXT YEAR YOU'RE GONE.

TRAFFIC CONGESTION AND ACCIDENTS.

ALRIGHT, UH, NEIL RIDGE, FOLLOWED BY ED RANO TO BE FOLLOWED BY GLORIA SALAS.

HI, GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME'S UH, NEIL RIDGE.

I'M A FAMILY PRACTICE PHYSICIAN IN SOUTH BAY HERE.

I'M HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT THE, UH, PUBLIC NUISANCE PROJECT AT SWEETWATER AND ORANGE.

UH, A BUSY CONVENIENCE STORE, GAS STATION WITH APARTMENTS AND CAR WASH AND ALL THAT.

RIGHT, RIGHT NEXT TO A BUSY, UH, INTERSECTION RIGHT OFF THE FREEWAY.

THERE'S A LOT OF NEGATIVE IMPACT THAT CAN HAVE ON MY PATIENTS WHO LIVE IN THIS COMMUNITY.

UH, I'LL SPEAK SPECIFICALLY, I'LL JUST MENTION A FEW OF THEM.

INCREASED TRAFFIC VOLUMES PARTICULAR DURING PEAK HOURS CAN LEAD TO CONGESTION.

INCREASED POTENTIAL FOR VEHICLE COLLISIONS AND LONGER TRAVEL TIMES FOR RESIDENTS.

UM, NOISE POLLUTION, NOISE FROM THE VEHICLES ENTERING AND EXITING IDLING ENGINES.

AND EVEN AIR COMPRESSORS DISRUPT PEACE AND QUIET FOR NEARBY RESIDENCIES.

AIR POLLUTION RELEASES VOLATILE ORGANIC COMPOUNDS SUCH AS BENZENE, A KNOWN CARCINOGEN AND OTHER HARMFUL CHEMICALS THAT CAN DEGRADE AIR QUALITY.

POSING POTENTIAL HEALTH RISKS.

IN PARTICULAR RESIDENTS WHO SPEND SIGNIFICANT TIME AT HOME WITH CHILDREN IN THAT AREA.

POTENTIAL FOR GROUNDWATER AND SOIL CONTAMINATION.

POTENTIAL LEAKS FROM UNDERGROUND STORAGE TANKS AND SPILLS.

UH, POSING ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH RISKS THAT CAN PERSIST FOR YEARS AND REQUIRE COSTLY REMEDIATION.

SAFETY CONCERNS.

WE TALKED ABOUT CRIME AND DISORDER.

CONVENIENCE STORES ASSOCIATED WITH GAS STATIONS CAN SOMETIMES BE ASSOCIATED WITH INCREASED CRIME.

PROPERTY VALUES FOR THESE PEOPLE THAT LIVE NEARBY, UH, PROXIMITY TO A GAS STATION MAY LINK TO POTENTIAL DECREASES IN NEARBY PROPERTY VALUES.

THE CONCERN, YOU KNOW, IT IS JUST THE AIR POLLUTION AND THE NOISE, THE REST AND, AND THE POTENTIAL FOR CRIME AND THAT KIND OF THING THAT COULD IMPACT THOSE PEOPLE.

UH, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE PROJECT MAY HAVE BEEN PUT ON HOLD, BUT THE CONCERN REALLY IS HOW DID IT GET UP TO A PLANNING STAGE WITHOUT ANY KIND OF ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STUDIES TO BE DONE.

I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.

UH, I'M ALL FOR MAKING NASHVILLE CITY A BETTER PLACE FOR THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT.

NEXT WE HAVE, UH, ED RANO TO BE FOLLOWED BY GLORIA SALAS TO BE FOLLOWED BY MARIA SEVERSON.

OKAY, WE GOT, WE GOT, UH, GLORIA, ME GO, GO AHEAD.

ED, YOU CAN THAT YES, GO AHEAD.

WHEN I RETAIL LICENSE THE NATIONAL CITY PROMOT LOSANO NATIONAL CITY RETAIL LICENSE, NATIONAL CITY.

YOU HAVE THE INTERPRETER, PLEASE.

WHENEVER YOU'RE READY, LUISA.

GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE.

MY NAME IS GLORIA SEZ AND I AM AM A RESIDENT.

UH, AND I'M A, A PART OF THE TOBACCO REGIONAL LICENSE PROGRAM.

I AM, I HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT IN NATIONAL CITY FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.

I AM A CAL PROMOTER OR PROMOT.

PROMOT.

OUR YOUTH IN NATIONAL CITY DEPEND ON US FOR PROTECTION AND IN ORDER NOT TO FALL, UM, INTO ADDICTIONS TOBACCO RETAIL LICENSE.

ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT TO HAVE THIS LICENSE.

THEY ARE THE FUTURE OF NATIONAL CITY.

PLEASE, WE NEED FOR THIS LICENSE TO BE APPLIED.

OKAY, EV EDWARD NTO.

I AM GONNA ASK THE AUDIENCE, THESE ARE FOR NON AGENDA COMMENTS.

AND SO LIKE THAT LAST ITEM IS AN AGENDA ITEM.

SO IT SHOULD, SHOULD HAVE COME UNDER THE AGENDA, NOT, NOT UNDER NON AGENDA ITEMS. OKAY.

MS OR EDWARD NTO, FOLLOWED BY MARIA SEVERSON, FOLLOWED BY, UH,

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LOUISA MCCARTHY.

I, I PROVIDED SOME SAMPLES OF WHAT I WAS I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT.

UH, PUBLIC OFFICE IS, IS ISN'T A MARKETING TOOL YET.

COUNCIL MEMBER ROD, UH, UH, YAMANI IS PROMOTING HER REAL ESTATE MORTGAGE BUSINESS BY PAIRING IT WITH A CITY TITLES AND SO ON.

SOCIAL MEDIA TITLES LIKE VICE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER BELONG TO THE PEOPLE NOT AS A BUSINESS CREDENTIAL.

I TALKED TO HER YESTERDAY AFTER I RAISED A, A CONCERN ONLINE.

SHE CALLED ME AND, YOU KNOW, SHE SAID THAT SHE PAID FOR THE PHOTO.

UH, I ACKNOWLEDGED THAT, BUT I THINK SHE MISSED THE POINT.

THE CITY USES THE SAME IMAGE AS HER OFFICIAL PORTRAIT AS SHE'S WEARING ON A REAL, ON A REAL, WITH HER, WITH A REAL, A REALTOR PIN THAT TURNS AN OFFICIAL CITY IMAGE INTO A, INTO A BUSINESS MARKETING.

SHE TOLD ME WE CAN AGREE TO DISAGREE, BUT, YOU KNOW, REALLY THAT'S A COP OUT.

THIS IS A RED FLAG OF, YOU KNOW, NOT KNOWING WHAT'S RIGHT AND WRONG.

WE NEED A CLEAR ETHIC POLICY TRAINING.

BUT THE CULTURE HERE IS, IS TO PUSH UNTIL SOMEONE SAY STOP.

SO SEE, SO SEE IT IN, IN THE CITY.

WE SEE IT IN CITY, UH, FACEBOOK PAGES AND THE RODRIGUEZ'S PAGE BOOK PAGES.

AND, AND YOU KNOW, WHERE HE SAYS VOTE RODRIGUEZ.

AND THEN IT'S A, IT HAS AN OFFICIAL POST.

YOU KNOW, IT'S DISTRICT FUNDING THAT'S BEING SPENT OUTSIDE OF THE RULES AND THE VIDEO SPOTLIGHTING THE CAMPAIGN, ANALYZE THE ETHICS.

PROBLEMS IN NATIONAL CITIES ARE OBVIOUS.

SO KEEP DOING SOME, KEEP DOING WHAT, UH, DOING IT BECAUSE THERE'S NO CONSEQUENCES.

EVEN THE STATE FINES GET TREATED AS COST OF JUST DOING BUSINESS.

WE, WE GET, WE NEED STRONGER RULES, TRAININGS AND ACCOUNTABILITY OR RESIDENTS WILL, THE OTHERWISE RESIDENTS WILL KEEP PAYING THE PRICE.

AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT STOPS, STARTS FROM THE TOP DOWN, FROM THE MAYOR, FROM THE COUNCIL TO THE CITY, UH, ATTORNEY.

IT HAS TO BE, YOU KNOW, IF WE START BREAKING THESE RULES INDIVIDUALLY, THEN THE, THE WORKERS ARE GONNA START THINKING THE SAME WAY.

THEY CAN GO OUT THERE AND START DOING THE SAME THING.

UH, MARIA, UH, SEVERSON BE FOLLOWED BY LOUISA MCCARTHY TO BE FOLLOWED BY MICKEL POLANCO.

GOOD EVENING COUNSEL.

MAYOR, CITY MANAGER, CITY ATTORNEY.

ONCE AGAIN, YOU HAVE NOT COMPLIED WITH THE LAW WHEN IT COMES TO TRANSPARENCY.

THERE IS A NEW VIOLATION OF THE OPEN MEETING LAW WHEN YOU ISSUED ON AN AUGUST 12TH, 2025 IMMEDIATE RELEASE REPORT.

I HAVE SEARCHED FOR WHEN THAT WAS ON AN AGENDA TO DISCUSS DOING THIS.

AND THERE'S NOTHING.

SO, AND THE CITY ATTORNEY CAN, YOU KNOW, SHOULD COMMENT ON THIS, NOT WITH ME TODAY, BUT IN RESPONSE TO A LEGAL PROCEEDING THAT ONCE AGAIN YOU HAVE PUT SOMETHING OUT THAT WAS A COLLECTIVE CONCURRENCE OF CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS TO, UH, PREPARE THIS DOCUMENT AND IT WAS NEVER NOTICED TO THE PUBLIC.

WHAT'S WORSE AND ACTUALLY IRONIC ABOUT IT, IS THIS STATEMENT IS ABOUT, UH, PURPORTED TRANSPARENCY.

AND WHAT IT DOES IS, INSTEAD OF DEALING WITH THE FACT THAT RECORDS AREN'T BEING PRODUCED, YOU TRY TO, UH, SWITCH THE NARRATIVE AND ACTUALLY ATTACK PEOPLE WHO LIVE AND WORK AND HAVE BUSINESSES IN THIS COMMUNITY BY NAME.

THAT'S PRETTY ROGUE, OKAY? ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE DOING IT IN, UH, WITHOUT EVEN PUBLIC NOTICE.

YOU TALK ABOUT HOW A PROJECT HAS MO HAS, UH, BEEN CLOSED AND TO MOVE ON.

BUT THE ISSUE IS NOT ABOUT WHETHER THE PUBLIC NUISANCE PROJECT ENDED.

THE ISSUE IS ABOUT WHY YOU REFUSE TO SEARCH AND RELEASE THE PUBLIC RECORDS THAT HAS BEEN REQUESTED.

THAT IS CALIFORNIA LAW.

AND YOUR, UH, FALSE NARRATIVE THAT WAS MADE WITH VIOLATION OF OPEN MEETING LAWS JUST SHOWS JUST HOW NOT TRANSPARENT YOU ARE AND HOW LITTLE REGARD YOU HAVE TO THE LAW.

SO SADLY, WE'RE COMING BACK.

GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE ERRONEOUS.

UH, LOUISA MCCARTHY, FOLLOWED BY, UH, MICKEL POLANCO.

PRESS RELEASE.

THE PROJECT MAY OR MAY NOT BE DONE.

WHAT'S NOT RESOLVED IS THE EFFORT TO FIND THE TRUTH.

WHY DON'T YOU GIVE THE PUBLIC ACCESS TO THE DEPOSITIONS THAT WE'VE HAD? THEY CAN BE PLACED ON THE LIBRARY, IN THE LIBRARY FOR EVERYONE TO READ.

IF YOU HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE, WHERE IS THE MARCUS? I ONCE KNEW? I'M STANDING HERE AND ASKING YOU TO FIND YOUR WAY BACK.

THE MARCUS THAT DOESN'T RETALIATE OR COVER UP WRONGDOING ON BEHALF OF THE MAYOR AND HIS ASSISTANT, THE MARCUS THAT ONCE

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HAD A COMMITMENT IN ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE, NOT ENVIRONMENTAL INJUSTICE.

FINALLY, WE WANT SOMEONE WHO STANDS UP TO THE MAYOR'S ASSISTANT AND FINDS OUT ANY DAMAGE THAT SHE'S DONE TO ANY CITY EMPLOYEE FOR HI.

HER ENTIRE TENURE HERE AND HER LIES TO OTHER BUSINESSES AND FORMAL ESTABLISHMENTS.

MAYOR, YOU CAN LIE ALL YOU WANT AND PEOPLE CAN BELIEVE YOU.

THE PUBLIC PEOPLE THAT EVEN, UH, ARE IN THE COMMISSION.

I'M NOT MAD AT THEM BECAUSE I WAS FOOLED FOR 15 YEARS.

I THOUGHT YOU WERE MY FRIEND.

I THOUGHT YOU CARED AND YOU WIELDED ME IN WITH THESE MEANINGLESS PROCLAMATIONS, BUT WANTING TO BE SIDE BY SIDE, THEY'RE BELIEVING IN ME.

NO, WHAT YOU DID IS YOU RODE ON MY BACK FOR CREDIBILITY AND PEOPLE KNOW EXACTLY WHO YOU ARE TODAY.

I HA DON'T HAVE TO LIFT A FINGER.

IT WILL ALL BE SEEN AND I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE YOU ALL IN COURT.

THANK YOU EVERYONE.

OKAY, UH, MICKEL POLANCO TO BE FOLLOWED BY MICHAEL AGAR.

GOOD EVENING COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I AM HERE TODAY, UH, TO MAKE A COMMENT, A PUBLIC COMMENT IN REGARDS TO THE PRESS RELEASE THAT WAS, UH, UH, SEND OUT LAST WEEK.

THE THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS COMPLAINED ABOUT THE NUMBER OF PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST, BUT THEY STILL HAVE NOT PRODUCED THE TEXT MESSAGES ON THE MAYOR'S CELL PHONE.

THE TEXT MESSAGES ON THE FORMER CITY MANAGER'S PHONE, THE TEXT MESSAGES FROM THE MAYOR'S ASSISTANTS AND MANY, MANY, MANY OTHER DOCUMENTS WHICH THEY CONTINUE TO CONCEAL.

THIS IS A COVERUP.

AND IF YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER BELINA AND YOU MARCUS BUSH, DON'T TAKE THIS SERIOUS AND CONTINUE TO COVER UP THE MAYOR AND HIS ASSISTANT, THERE WILL BE CONSEQUENCES.

AND MARCUS, I'M VERY DISAPPOINTED WITH YOU BECAUSE YOUR HEAD IS UP, UH, IN THE SKY.

IF YOU WOULD JUST COME DOWN TO EARTH FROM ALL YOUR MARIJUANA, YOU WOULD PROBABLY, UH, PAY ATTENTION.

LIKE RIGHT NOW, ARE YOU, UH, ASLEEP? ARE YOU IN A HIGH, ARE YOU IN A TRIP RIGHT NOW? THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

WE HAVE A CITY THAT'S BEING RUN BY SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS AND A MAYOR THAT JUST DON'T CARE.

AND IT'S TIME FOR YOU TO GO.

MAYOR.

IT USED TO BE A PRIVILEGE TO CALL, CALL YOU MAYOR.

NOW I CAN CALL YOU RUN BECAUSE YOU'RE BROKEN AND YOU'RE BUSTED.

AND YOU CAN NO LONGER BE TRUSTED TO RUN THIS CITY.

YOU HAVE LOST CREDIBILITY WITH US AND MANY, MANY, MANY OTHER PEOPLE.

AND IT'S ONLY A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE THE TRUTH COMES OUT.

AND I'M REALLY, REALLY DISAPPOINTED WITH ALL OF YOUR COVERUP AND YOUR LIES AND YOUR DECEIT AND YOUR CONCEALMENT OF THESE RECORDS.

IT IS OUR RIGHT TO HAVE THOSE RECORDS.

PLEASE GIVE THEM TO US.

OKAY, MICHAEL AGUIRE, GOOD EVENING.

I WOULD LIKE TO ELABORATE AND EXPLAIN HOW THE PUBLIC RECORDS ACT WORKS WHEN THERE IS SOMETHING THAT OCCURS.

WHEN THERE IS SOMETHING THAT OCCURS THAT PUBLIC OFFICIALS ARE INVOLVED IN, IF YOU HAVE A DOCUMENT IN YOUR POSSESSION, YOU CREATED THE DOCUMENT AND THERE IS A PUBLIC INTEREST IN THAT DOCUMENT, THAT'S ALL THAT MATTERS UNDER THE CONSTITUTION AND UNDER THE PUBLIC RECORDS ACT, THE PUBLIC HAS A RIGHT TO THOSE DOCUMENTS.

SO, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN WHEN THE MAYOR, UH, SAID THAT HE LOOKED OR HE, HE RELIED ON IT TO PRODUCE HIS TEXT MESSAGES IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE PUBLIC NUISANCE PROJECT, WE THEN WENT TO IT AND IT SAID, NO, WE DON'T MAINTAIN THE RECORDS FOR THE MAYOR.

ON HIS TEXT MESSAGES ON HIS PHONE, WHEN, UH, WE WENT TO THE CITY MANAGER AND WE SAID, WHERE'S YOUR PHONE? WAS THAT SEARCHED? AND HE SAID, NO, I TURNED IT INTO MR. DONG.

AND SO THEN WE WENT TO MR. DONG AND MR. DONG SAID, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE

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PHONE IS NOW.

HOW CAN, HOW CAN YOU SAY, MAYOR, THAT EVERYTHING'S BEEN TURNED OVER WHEN YOU KNOW THAT THE SEARCHING HASN'T TAKEN PLACE? MAYBE YOU WERE MISTAKEN.

THE CITY CLERK WAS KIND ENOUGH TO ADMIT TO US SOMETHING VERY SIGNIFICANT.

YOU HAVE NO RETENTION POLICY WHEN IT COMES TO ESI, ELECTRONIC STORED INFORMATION.

WHAT OUR SUPREME COURT HAS TAUGHT US IS IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE HOW THE INFORMATION STORED, WHETHER IT'S YOUR PERSONAL.

AT THIS POINT WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM FLAGSHIP CRUISES AND EVENTS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, WITHIN OUR 30 MINUTE TIME LIMIT, THAT'S THE LAST OF OUR GENERAL SPEAKERS.

THE REST OF 'EM WILL BE AT THE END OF THE MEETING.

AND, UH, AND LET ME JUST SAY, I KNOW WE HAD A COUPLE PEOPLE THERE THAT, THAT ARE STILL UPSET ON THE, UH, SWEETWATER ROAD PROJECT.

AND THEY SAY THE TRUTH WILL COME OUT AND INDEED IT WILL.

BUT THAT GOES BOTH DIRECTIONS.

SO WE'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT WITH THAT.

AND I JUST WANT TO ADD, ALL OF THIS HAS BEEN RESPONDED TO.

THAT'S WHY WE PUT OUT THE PRESS RELEASE.

THAT'S WHY THEY KEEP COMING BACK.

AND WHAT THIS IS ABOUT IS THEY'RE TRYING TO BUY, EXTORT US AND BUY A PROPERTY THAT IS NOT THEIRS AND HAVE US LOWER THE VALUE SO WE CAN GO ON AND ON.

AGAIN, THEY CAN KEEP COMING BACK WEEK AFTER WEEK, THROWING OUT INSULTS.

WE HAVE NOTHING.

I HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE.

WE HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE.

WE'RE GONNA KEEP TELLING THE TRUTH.

AND WHATEVER PERSONAL PETTY INSULTS THEY BRING OUT, THAT'S FINE.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEY CAN COME UP AND SPEAK, BUT WE'RE GONNA RESPOND WITH OUR TRUTH AND, UM, WE JUST ARE GONNA KEEP MOVING FORWARD.

SO THANK YOU.

OKAY, NEXT WE GO ON TO PROCLAMATIONS AND, AND RECOGNITIONS.

WE DO HAVE TWO ITEMS ON THERE.

ONE DEALING WITH FLAGSHIP CRUISES, THE OTHER ONE DEALING WITH THE AMERICAN GOLF.

THE AMERICAN GOLF ONE.

WE'RE GONNA HOLD OVER 'CAUSE THERE IS AN AMERICAN GOLF ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

WE'LL DO THAT PRESENTATION WHEN WE HAVE THAT AGENDA ITEM COME UP.

[6.1 Flagship Cruises and Events - Electric Ferry ]

HELLO, GOOD AFTERNOON OR GOOD EVENING, MAYOR MORRISON, CITY MANAGER WHO AND ESTEEM COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS KORS WORSHAM, THE PUBLIC RELATIONS AND COMMUNICATIONS MANAGER FOR FLAGSHIP CRUISE ZONE EVENTS.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE AN EXCITING STEP FORWARD IN CLEAN TRANSPORTATION AND COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS.

ONE THAT CARRIES PARTICULAR SIGNIFICANCE IN NASHVILLE CITY FLAGSHIP IS PROUD TO ANNOUNCE WE ARE BRINGING TWO ZERO EMISSION.

ALL ELECTRIC VARIES TO SAN DIEGO'S WATERFRONT CONNECTING BROADWAY PIER FIFTH AVENUE LANDING AND CORONADO.

THESE WILL BE CALIFORNIA'S FIRST NEWLY BUILT PA ELECTRIC PASSENGER FERRIES.

A MILESTONE, NOT JUST FOR OUR REGION BUT FOR OUR STATE.

EACH FERRY WILL CARRY UP TO 275 PASSENGERS BE FULLY 88 ACCESSIBLE AND PROVIDE EXPANDED BICYCLE STROLLER AND FAMILY ACCESS.

THEY WILL OPERATE QUIETLY, PRODUCE NO GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS DURING OPERATIONS AND DELIVER CLEANER AIR FOR COMMUNITIES WHILE ALSO EXPANDING THE MARITIME WORKFORCE AND CREATING NEW CAREER PATHWAYS FOR LOCAL RESIDENTS, INCLUDING THOSE OF NATIONAL CITY WHERE ACCESS TO WELL, WELL-PAYING FORWARD JOBS CAN BE A TRANSFORMATIVE IMPACT.

THE VISION IS BECOMING A REALITY THROUGH A $15.27 MILLION GRANT FROM CARB THROUGH THE SUSTAINABLE HEAVY DUTY INITIATIVES FOR FUTURE TECHNOLOGY PROGRAMS MATCHED BY OUR $5.5 MILLION PER FLAGSHIP CRUISES AND EVENTS, BRINGING TOTAL INVESTMENT TO MORE THAN 21 MILLION.

THIS PROJECT IS LED BY THE SAN DIEGO AIR POLLUTION CONTROL DISTRICT AND FLAGSHIP WILL LIKE TO THANK PORT COMMISSIONER JOE OG FOR THIS LEADERSHIP AT THE PORT OF SAN DIEGO.

AS WELL AS AURORA MARINE DESIGN AND THE MARITIME INSTITUTE AND MOMENTUM NATIONAL CITY HAS BEEN A LONG CORNERSTONE OF OUR WORKING WATERFRONT HOME TO SHIPYARDS INDUSTRY AND A DIVERSE COMMUNITY THAT HAS SHAPED THE IMPACT OF SHAPED THE REGION'S ECONOMIC IDENTITY.

THIS PROJECT BUILDS ON THE LEGACY ENSURING THAT NASHVILLE CITY RESIDENTS ARE POSITIONED AT THE FOREFRONT OF CLEAN MARITIME INNOVATION.

BY MOVING AHEAD OF FEDERAL TIMELINES, WE ARE PROVIDING THAT OUR REGION CAN LEAD.

PROVING THAT OUR REGION CAN LEAD THE NATION IN DELIVERING THIS TECHNOLOGY NOW IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE PORT'S PORT GREEN STRATEGY AND THE SHEER VISION FOR A HEALTHIER WATERFRONT.

WE'RE ALSO GOING TO PRESENT AT THE PORTSIDE STEERING COMMITTEE ON TUESDAY, AUGUST 26TH AT 5:00 PM AND I'D LIKE TO INVITE YOU ALL TO ATTEND AS WE'LL BE DOING A MORE FORMAL PRESENTATION THERE.

CONSTRUCTION WILL BEGIN LATE 2025 AND THE FIRST ELECTRIC FERRY WILL BE LAUNCHING 2026.

AND WHEN THE TIME COMES, WE LOOK FORWARD TO CELEBRATING THIS MILESTONE WITH ALL OF YOU GUYS.

UM, ON BEHALF OF OUR ENTIRE TEAM AT FLAGSHIP, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR COMMITMENT TO NATIONAL CITY'S FUTURE AND FOR HELPING BUILD A WATERFRONT THAT IS IN WIDES WORDS OF FORMER NATIONAL CITY PORT COMMISSIONER DUKEY VALDERRAMA, A WIN FOR THE PORT OF SAN DIEGO, A WIN FOR BUSINESS AND A WIN FOR THE COMMUNITY.

AND THIS ELECTRIC FERRY PROJECT DOES, DOES JUST THAT.

YOU NEED TO BE EITHER AGAINST THE WALL OR AGAINST THE BACK WALL SO YOU'RE NOT IN FRONT OF PEOPLE.

WE, WE MAY HAVE A QUESTION OR TWO FOR YOU, BUT I DO HAVE A SPEAKER THAT'S WANTING TO SPEAK TO THIS, THIS ITEM, UH, TRUTH.

AND LEMME SAY, IF YOU WANNA HOLD SIGNS UP,

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THANK YOU FOR THAT VERY, VERY QUICK PRESENTATION.

UH, 275 PASSENGERS.

SO IS THAT, IS THERE AN EXPECTATION THAT'S GONNA GONNA FILL THAT LIKE EVEN 50%? I HAVE A FEELING NO, BECAUSE I HAVE RIDDEN THE FERRY.

IN FACT, I ENJOYED IT SO MUCH AFTER HAVING NOT RIDDEN IT SINCE I WAS VERY YOUNG THAT I HAD TO WRITE IT TWICE BECAUSE IT WAS JUST THAT FUN.

IN FACT, I WON THE FIRST TIME.

FIRST TIME IN A LONG TIME.

I DID, UH, THE SPEEDBOAT.

THAT WAS REALLY FUN.

AND THEN I DID THE REGULAR FERRY.

I MADE SURE TO GET ON THE REGULAR ONE AND THAT WAS VERY FUN TOO.

BUT THAT'S THE ONE I REMEMBER FROM BEING A KID.

IT, IT LOOKS THE SAME EXCEPT THEY HAD A WILSON YOU GUYS KNOW WILSON FROM THAT MOVIE, RIGHT? CASTAWAY? THEY HAD ONE IN THERE.

SEE THAT'S HOW YOU KNOW I WROTE 'CAUSE I SAW THAT.

UM, SO I, I THINK IT'S TOO BIG.

I MEAN I, I'VE NEVER SEEN ONE FULL, UH, THERE'S, THE GRANT TOTAL WAS $21 MILLION.

SO I REMEMBER IT.

A CD, AIR POLLUTION CONTROL DISTRICT.

THEY WERE WHINING THAT, OH, THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH MONEY FOR AIR PURIFIERS FROM CARB DOESN'T SOUND LIKE IT.

UM, HOW MUCH TO OPERATE THIS, THESE FERRIES OR FERRY A YEAR? I HAVE A FEELING IT'S A LOT OF MONEY NOW.

I ACTUALLY DON'T CARE IF IT'S ELECTRIC.

I JUST SUPPORT FERRIES AS A FUN MODE OF TRANSPORTATION.

UM, I WOULD LIKE A FERRY TO AND FROM NATIONAL CITY TO DOWNTOWN NATIONAL CITY TO CORONADO NATIONAL CITY OF CHULA VISTA AND NATIONAL CITY TO IMPERIAL BEACH.

AND I WOULD ABSOLUTELY TAKE IT AT SOME POINT.

UH, ALTHOUGH YOU NEED A FERRY LANDING LIKE CORONADO HAS, THAT WOULD BE REALLY GOOD FOR NATIONAL CITY TO MAKE SOME TAX REVENUE.

UM, THE ONLY ISSUE I HAVE BESIDES MAYBE THE ELECTRIC PART IS THE COST OF $9 PER RIDE IS VERY STEEP.

ALSO, YOU CAN ONLY PAY WITH A CARD.

I DON'T LIKE THAT.

I LIKE CASH.

I COULD MAYBE GET OVER THAT, BUT $9, I'M NOT GONNA DO IT ALL THE TIME.

IT'LL JUST BE A FUN THING ONCE IN A WHILE.

SO IF THERE'S ANY WAY THAT COULD BE WORKED ON, THAT'D BE A LITTLE BETTER.

OKAY, , THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

I'LL TAKE IT TO OUR TEAM.

DO WE HAVE ANY, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS? SEEING NONE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, WE DID HAVE A NUMBER OF SPEAKERS THAT WAS ON 6.2, WHICH WAS THE PRESENTATION, UH, FOR THE, UH, UH, THE GOLF.

AND SO WE'LL PUT THAT OVER TO 11.1 FOR ALL THOSE INDIVIDUALS.

ALRIGHT, WITH THAT THEN.

JUST A SECOND.

GET CAUGHT UP HERE.

UM,

[7. REGIONAL BOARDS AND COMMITTEE REPORTS (Limited to Five (5) Minutes each)]

SO WITH THAT WE GO INTO, UH, REGIONAL BOARDS AND COMMITTEE REPORTS.

UH, WE'LL START DOWN HERE WITH OUR LEFT.

SWEETWATER AUTHORITY, NOTHING TO REPORT METRO JPA STAFF AND, UH, CONSULTANTS ARE MEETING WITH REGARDS TO SARAH.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

NOTHING TO REPORT ON SANDAG BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

YES, I DO HAVE AN UPDATE FOR, UH, SAN DIEGO COUNTY AIR POLLUTION CONTROL DISTRICT.

SO WE, UH, JUST MET LAST WEEK.

WE WELCOMED OUR NEW BOARD MEMBER SUPERVISOR, PALOMA AGUIRE.

I'M REALLY EXCITED FOR HER JOINING.

UH, WE WORKED A LOT THIS LAST YEAR TOGETHER ON ADDRESSING THE EMISSIONS, THE HYDROGEN SULFIDE FROM THE, UH, T TJ RIVER, UH, SEWAGE CRISIS LAST YEAR.

SO SHE BROUGHT FORTH ABOUT EIGHT ITEMS TO ADVANCE OUR AIR FILTER PROGRAM.

SO THAT'S DISTRIBUTION OF AIR FILTERS THAT CLEAN THE HYDROGEN SULFIDE, THE, UH, FOR THE 35,000 HOUSEHOLDS THAT LIVE AROUND THE, THE TIJUANA RIVER VALLEY.

SO DO ASK THOSE THAT HAVE FRIENDS, FAMILY, UM, ANYONE THAT YOU KNOW THAT LIVES IN THE AREA, UH, YOU CAN APPLY ONLINE.

UH, SO FAR WE'VE ONLY BEEN ABLE TO DISTRIBUTE ABOUT 5,000, UH, FILTERS.

WE HAVE 5,000 MORE THAT ARE STILL IN PROCESS, BUT ULTIMATELY WE NEED TO GET AS MANY FILTERS OUT AS POSSIBLE.

AND SO WORKING WITH THE COUNTY ON MAKING SURE WE'RE HAVING THE FUNDING TO DO THAT.

SO THAT'S A BIG UPDATE, UH, THERE.

AND WE HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING, UH, SEPTEMBER 11TH, UH, TO KEEP THAT PROGRAM.

WILL MOVE ON AND WE GO INTO, UH, CONSENT CALENDAR.

AND, UH, I HAVE NOTHING TO REPORT.

SO WE

[8. CONSENT CALENDAR]

THIS IS ITEMS EIGHT ONE THROUGH EIGHT 16.

AND GIVE ME JUST A SECOND BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF THESE THINGS HERE TONIGHT.

UH, IT LOOKS LIKE I'VE GOT REQUEST FOR TO PULL 8 3 4 6 7 12 14, 15 AND 16.

I'D LIKE TO PULL, UM, 8.5.

UM, AND THEN DID YOU SAY 10 AND 11 THE NOTICE OF DECISIONS? 'CAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, NO, I HAVE NOT.

I WOULD LIKE TO PULL THAT FOR, UH, FUTURE PUBLIC MEETING.

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AND 11.

NOT A LOT LEFT, BUT WE WILL TAKE IT.

UH, SO ANYONE WANT, ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO THE REMAINDER OF THE CONSENT? WE SAID 8.62, RIGHT? 8.6 ALSO? YES.

FOR PRESENTATION.

MOTION TO APPROVE MR. MAYOR THE REMAINDER OF THE CONSENT ITEMS. THE REMAINDER.

AND, UH, I'M SORRY, WHICH WAS THE REMAINDER? WHAT ARE THE ITEMS? REMAINDER WAS 1 2 8, 8, 9, 10, 13.

AND THAT'S IT? YES.

THAT'S OKAY.

SECOND COUNCIL MEMBER YAMANI, CAN I HAVE YOU PUSH YOUR BUTTON ONE MORE TIME? 15 WAS PULLED.

THAT WHAT? THANK YOU.

NO, WE'RE GOOD.

SO WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ONCE THE LIGHTS COME UP HERE.

THERE THEY'RE PLEASE VOTE.

$10 MILLION, $10 MILLION.

ALRIGHT, NOW WE'LL GO DOWN THROUGH THOSE ITEMS. FIRST OF ALL,

[8.3 Approval of an Agreement Amendment with Burke, Williams & Sorensen, LLP for Legal Services in Connection with Case Titled Cummins v. the City of National City – Appeal by Increasing the Not-to-Exceed Amount by $100,000 for a New Total Not-to-Exceed Amount]

WE HAVE EIGHT THREE.

THIS IS A, UH, UH, APPROVAL OF AN AGREEMENT WITH BURKE WILLIAMS AND SORENSON, UH, LLP FOR LEGAL SERVICE IN CONNECTION WITH THE CASE TITLE CUMMINGS VERSUS CITY OF NATIONAL CITY.

UH, THIS IS AN APPEAL WITH THAT.

ON EIGHT THREE, WE HAVE ROBERTO YAMANA AND THOMAS REICH.

SO ROBERTO YAMANA, HERE HE IS.

AND THEN THOMAS REICH.

I'M GONNA READ THE CASE SUMMARY FOR THE ASHLEY CUMMINS CASE.

JURY VERDICT.

CUMMINS WAS A NATIONAL CITY, ASHLEY CUMMINS, AN OPENLY GAY WOMAN.

AND HER FIRST SIX MONTHS AT NCPD OFFICER CUMMINS BEGAN WITNESSING HARASSING AND DISCRIMINATORY CONDUCT TOWARDS OTHER FEMALE OFFICERS IN HER PRESENCE, INCLUDING SUCH THINGS AS MALE OFFICERS AND MALE SUPERVISORS CALLING OTHER FEMALE OFFICERS.

AND I QUOTE, B***H FAT B***H INCOMPETENT, SAYING THEY CAN'T BELIEVE A CERTAIN MALE OFFICER F****D HER.

AND MAKING STATEMENTS INDICATING THAT THE MALE OFFICERS WANTED THE FEMALE OFFICERS TO QUIT.

CUMMINS ALSO WITNESSED MALE OFFICERS AND SUPERVISORS TAKE ACTIONS TO PLACE OR LEAVE FEMALE OFFICERS IN DANGEROUS SITUATIONS SUCH AS INTENTIONALLY NOT BACKING THEM UP WHEN RESPONDING TO DANGEROUS CALLS.

AT THE BEGINNING OF 2020, ASHLEY CUMMINS SUPERVISED CORPORAL CORNEJO BEGAN ASKING HER IN FRONT OF ALL OF THE MALE OFFICERS ON HIS SQUAD, DETAILED QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW LESBIANS HAVE SEX.

AND CORPORAL CORNEJO AND NEARLY ALL OF THE MALE OFFICERS ON THE SQUAD BEGAN EXCHANGING GRAPHIC SEXUAL JOKES ON HER WORK GROUP TEXT THREAD, WHICH INCLUDED OFFICER CUMMINS.

THE SEXUAL JOKES INCLUDED IMAGES OF SEX TOYS, WOMEN IN LINGERIE, A NAKED MALE PORN STAR PHALLIC SYMBOLS AND COMMENTS ABOUT HETEROSEXUAL AND HOMOSEXUAL SEX, INCLUDING ONE TEXT JOKING ABOUT STATUTORY RAPE OF A 15-YEAR-OLD FEMALE.

AND THERE'S PLENTY MORE.

SO MY QUESTION TO ALL OF YOU IS, THIS YEAR THE CITY HAS PAID $11 MILLION FOR THE BEHAVIOR OF THE NCPD, AND YET NONE OF YOU TALK ABOUT THESE ISSUES.

IN FACT, YOU PANDER TO THESE OFFICERS, THESE CRIMINALS AND UNIFORM AS I LIKE TO CALL THEM.

MARCUS, YOU AND I CAME OUT IN THE SAME KP KPBS ARTICLE SLASH NEWS MEDIA.

PLEASE, WHAT HAVE YOU DONE SINCE THEN? YOU GUYS NEED TO WAKE UP, UH, THOMAS REICH.

HOW DID YOU MAYOR, I JUST WANT TO CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO BURKE WILLIAMS. SO, SORENSON LEGAL SERVICES FOR 175,000, AND I'VE READ THEIR BIO ON THIS, AND THEY'VE WON CASES IN BEVERLY HILLS, LONG BEACH AND CORONADO.

THEY'RE A VERY EXPENSIVE FIRM IN THE BEVERLY HILLS.

THEY, THEY WANT A A A, LET'S SEE, A CAR JUMPED THE CURB WHILE SOMEONE WAS RIDING A BIKE.

I DON'T KNOW HOW TO, BUT THEY PAID MORE THAN THE INSURANCE WOULD.

WELL, MY POINT IS, MY POINT IS MAYBE THERE'S LAWYERS ON EIGHTH STREET OR NATIONAL CITY BOULEVARD OR HIGHLAND AVENUE THAT COULD, THAT WE COULD GIVE $175,000 TO.

AND THAT'S THE ONLY POINT I WANNA MAKE.

UH, DI WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE WITH 8.3? MR. CHAIR? MOVED TO APPROVE 8.3.

DO WE HAVE A, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? DO WE HAVE A SECOND? COULD COULD YOU PUSH, DID YOU PUSH IN YOUR MOTION? SORRY.

SEEING NO DISCUSSION? I, YEAH.

JUST WITH, UH, THIS CASE.

JUST, UH, A COMMENT.

UM, I DID HAVE, UM, SOME CONCERNS

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SO, UM, BUT THIS IS COVERED BY INSURANCE FOR RIGHT NOW.

SO I, I'M STILL GONNA HAVE, UH, MORE QUESTIONS, BUT I'LL MOVE THIS FORWARD.

SO AT LEAST THE PROCESS, UM, GOES.

BUT I, I STILL WANT MY QUESTIONS, UH, SPECIFICALLY ANSWERED ABOUT THIS CASE, THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE AND ALL OF THAT.

'CAUSE I, I HAVE CONCERNS OKAY.

THROUGH THE CHAIR.

YES, I DO HAVE, HAVE QUESTIONS, BUT THIS IS, UH, WITH REGARDS TO THE MOVING THE, THE MOVING OF THE, OF THE PROCESS.

THAT'S WHY I'M MOVING IT FOR, UH, FOR APPROVAL.

[8.4 Approval of an Amendment to the Agreement with Liebert Cassidy Whitmore for Legal Services Pertaining to Employment Law Matters.]

NEXT WE GO TO 8.4.

THIS IS APPROVAL OF AMENDMENT TO THE AGREEMENT OF, UH, LIEBERT CASSIDY WHITMORE FOR LEGAL SERVICES PERTAINING TO EMPLOYMENT LAW MATTERS.

AND WE HAVE SOME SPEAKERS ON THAT.

UM, YEAH.

I WAS GETTING READY TO ASK HIM TO CLOSE THAT DOOR.

GETTING A LITTLE, A LITTLE NOISY OUT THERE.

UH, MARIA SSON, SHE IN THE AUDIENCE OR IS SHE OUTSIDE? MARIA SEVERSON TO BE FOLLOWED BY MICHAEL AGUIRE TO BE FOLLOWED BY LOUISA MCCARTHY.

GOOD EVENING AGAIN.

AS TO THIS ITEM, THERE IS A REQUEST FOR THE CITY TO SPEND $100,000 FOR A LAW FIRM WITH THE MOST VAGUE AND NON-TRANSPARENT, UM, DESCRIPTION AS TO WHAT IT'S FOR.

WHAT WE WOULD ASK IS, BEFORE YOU VOTE TO SPEND THAT MONEY, TELL THE PUBLIC HERE TONIGHT, TELL THEM WHAT MATTERS, WHAT CASES THAT MONEY IS GOING TO.

YOU OWE THE PUBLIC THAT MUCH.

AND, UM, NEXT WE HAD MICHAEL GERRY TO BE FOLLOWED BY LOUISE, UH, MCCARTHY TO BE FOLLOWED BY MCCAL POLANCO.

WHAT'S HAPPENING IS THERE'S MORE AND MORE EXAMPLES OF MISCONDUCT RESULTING IN MORE AND MORE PEOPLE BRINGING CLAIMS. THE $10 MILLION CLAIM FROM THE ALLEGED HARASSED FORMER CITY POLICE OFFICER.

YOU SPENT TONS OF MONEY ON THAT.

YOU LOST ALL YOUR MOTIONS AFTER THE TRIAL.

YOU'RE NOW UP ON APPEAL.

THE LIKELIHOOD OF WINNING ON APPEAL IS VERY REMOTE.

BUT AT LEAST WE KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT THAT CASE.

IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE ON ANOTHER PATH, A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR EXPOSURES THAT THE PUBLIC HAS ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA WHY YOU'RE SPENDING A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.

IS IT TO PROTECT THE MAYOR'S ASSISTANT? IS THAT PART OF IT? IS IT TO PERPETUATE, UH, A CASE THAT SHOULD BE RESOLVED? IS IT BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T LOOKED INTO IT AS PART OF YOUR OVERSIGHT? YOUR TRANSPARENCY, YOUR ACCOUNTABILITY, THE GOOD SHIP NATIONAL CITY IS FLOUNDERING.

YOU REJECT AND RESIST.

I'VE BEEN AN ATTORNEY FOR 50 YEARS.

I WAS THE CITY ATTORNEY OF THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO.

I WAS THE UNITED STATES ASSISTANT US ATTORNEY.

I WAS AN ASSISTANT COUNSEL TO THE UNITED STATES SENATE COMMITTEE ON INVESTIGATIONS.

AND YOU COMPLETELY IGNORE.

AND BEFORE WE GO ON, LET ME JUST ONCE AGAIN READ THE TITLE OF THIS.

THIS IS AN IMPROVEMENT TO AMENDMENT TO AGREEMENT WITH, UH, HIS LAW FIRM FOR LEGAL SERVICES PERTAINING TO EMPLOYMENT LAW MATTERS UP TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.

OKAY, SO, SO WE HAVE CLARITY.

ONE OF MY PROPERTIES AS MY SECOND HOME.

LOUIS MCCARTHY, FOLLOWED BY, UH, LANKO EMPLOYMENT LAW MATTERS ALSO ARE ABOUT EMPLOYEES.

BEFORE YOU VOTE ON THIS, YOU SHOULD DISCLOSE TONIGHT TO THE PUBLIC, WHICH IT HAS THE RIGHT TO KNOW IT IS THEIR TAXPAYER'S MONEY.

AND MINE TOO, BECAUSE AS YOU SAY, WE'RE OUTSIDERS.

WE'RE ALSO INVESTORS AND HAVE PLENTY OF PROPERTIES HERE IN NATIONAL CITY.

IN FACT, REMEMBER MAYOR, YOU ASKED ME TO RUN FOR COUNSEL AND JUST LIE AND USE

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IT'S OKAY.

NO.

OH, HO HO AMISHA HUH? BUT WE ALL KNOW THAT YOU, YOU DON'T TELL THE TRUTH ANYWAY.

THE CITY SAYS IT'S OUT OF MONEY.

BUDGET PROBLEMS CAN'T SOLVE THE ALL THE ISSUES THAT PEOPLE HAVE INCOME BEFORE YOU LIKE SAFETY, THE PROSTITUTION HOUSING, ENVIRONMENTAL PRIORITIES.

DON'T SPEND MONEY UNTIL YOU EXPLAIN WHY.

WHAT IS IT FOR? WHO IS IT FOR? ARE YOU REWARDING, UH, STAFF THAT ARE DOING THINGS THAT ARE INAPPROPRIATE TO OTHER STAFF AND YET WANT TO GIVE THEM A LITTLE ATTORNEY ON THE SIDE TO PROTECT THEM INSTEAD OF PROTECTING THE PERSON THAT IS WRONGED? WHOA.

THAT SAYS A LOT ABOUT THE CULTURE OF THIS DAIS.

AND I CAN'T SAY ALL OF THEM, I CANNOT SAY, BUT SADLY, WE SEE THE VOTES.

WE SEE WHO VOTES YES.

WELL, I, WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND IS, UM, HOW DOES AN EMPLOYEE OF THE MAYOR'S ASSISTANT SLAP SOMEBODY IN THE ASS DURING A BIRTHDAY CELEBRATION AND GET AWAY WITH IT? THAT IS THE MOST EMBARRASSING THING ANYBODY CAN EVER DO TO ANOTHER EMPLOYEE AND GET AWAY WITH IT.

AND YES, SHE WALKS AROUND LIKE A PEACOCK OUSTING THE EMPLOYEE.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THE COUNCIL MEMBERS CAN DO, NOR CAN THE LEGAL COUNSEL DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

NOT EVEN PUT HER ON LEAVE.

ANYONE WHO DARES TO SAY ANYTHING AGAINST YOUR JOSIE.

WOW.

NO ACCOUNTABILITY, NO CONSEQUENCES WHATSOEVER IN ANY OTHER COMPANY OR IN ANY OTHER CITY.

THIS EMPLOYEE WOULD'VE BEEN FIRED IMMEDIATELY.

NO, IT'S OR BUTS ABOUT IT BECAUSE WHAT IT EXPOSES THE COMPANY TO LAWSUITS, IT EXPOSES THE CITY TO LAWSUITS.

AND THIS IS NOT HER FIRST RODEO.

THIS IS ONE OF MANY, MANY THINGS THAT SHE HAS DONE THROUGHOUT THE YEARS.

YET SHE IS PROTECTED LIKE SHE IS GOD.

SO RON, I THINK IT'S TIME THAT YOU, AS THE CITY HEAD, AS I'VE ALWAYS SAID, THE FISH STINKS FROM THE HEAD DOWN AND YOU ARE THE HEAD.

AND THAT'S WHY THE CITY'S SO STINKY.

BECAUSE YOU ARE THE HEAD ED.

YOU NEED TO PUT YOUR LOVER IN CHECK AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

GROW SOME BALLS, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

DON'T JUST SIT THERE AND, AND LOOK AND PRETEND THAT EVERYTHING'S HUNKY DORY.

YES, YOU HAVE MARCUS AND YOU HAVE LUZ ON YOUR SIDE AS YOUR BACKUP BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE THREE VOTES AND YOU THINK YOU'RE ALL THE, ALL, ALL THE ALMIGHTY POWERFUL.

BUT GUESS WHAT? YOUR TIME'S COME, IT'S COMING UP 2026 AND THE VOTERS WILL TELL YOU THAT IT'S TIME FOR YOU TO GO.

AND EVERYBODY, LET'S HAVE AN AMAZING END OF AUGUST.

LEMME JUST MAKE A VERY QUICK STATEMENT.

WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS A, AN EXTENSION OF AN AGREEMENT WITH A LAW FIRM ON, UM, LABOR LEGAL ISSUES.

BECAUSE WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF LABOR NEGOTIATIONS, HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ALL THE, THE ACCUSATIONS AS FALSE AS THEY WERE THAT WERE JUST BROUGHT UP.

SO, BUT THE, EVERYONE GETS FREE SPEECH THROUGH THE CHAIR.

THIS IS 8.3, 8.4, THE, UH, 8.4.

THE LABOR AGREEMENT IS 8.5.

SO, UH, THE QUESTION HERE IS EMPLOYMENT LAW MATTERS.

SO IT'S A DIFFERENT STORY.

SO, UM, COUNSEL, WHAT IS THIS THAT WE ARE, THAT WE ARE PAYING FOR? SO THIS IS, UM, 8.4.

THIS IS A LEGAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WE HAVE WITH LIBERT CASSIDY WHITMORE.

AND THEY PROVIDE, UM, SPECIAL HUMAN, UH, RELATIONS AND LABOR, UH, ADVICE TO OUR HR DEPARTMENT.

AND IT COVERS ALL OF OUR EMPLOYMENT MATTERS.

UM, REGARDING PROCESSES FOR PROMOTIONS, UM, CLASSIFICATIONS OF, UH, POSITIONS.

UM, AND BASED ON THE ACTIVITY THAT'S GONE OVER THE LAST YEAR, WE'RE ASKING FOR AN INCREASE SO THAT WE CAN COVER WHAT WE ANTICIPATE TO BE ADDITIONAL LABOR WORK IN THE FUTURE.

UM, HOUR AND WAGE ISSUES, ET CETERA.

UM, AND THEY HAVE BEEN DOING THIS SINCE I CAME HERE SINCE AT LEAST FOUR YEARS.

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AND IT'S AN UP TO AMOUNT CORRECT? IT'S AN UP TO AMOUNT.

AND SO IT IS NOT A, NOT A SET AMOUNT.

THAT'S CORRECT.

THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION, COUNSEL.

AND UM, MR. MAYOR, CAN THE PEOPLE AT THE BIG ROOM BE QUIET PLEASE? YEAH.

MAYBE THEY'LL LISTEN TO YOU HERE, OFFICER.

YES, YES.

UH, I ACTUALLY HAD CONCERNS, UH, WITH THIS ITEM THAT I EXPRESSED TO THE CITY, UH, MANAGER.

SO I'M GONNA BE MAKING A MOTION TO, UH, DELAY THIS, UM, UNTIL, UH, TO A FUTURE MEETING UNTIL SEPTEMBER.

SO WE JUST HIRED AN HR, UH, DIRECTOR.

UM, AND I THINK A LOT OF THESE ISSUES, AS I WAS EXPLAINING TO OUR ISSUES, THAT NOW THAT WE HAVE A FULLY STAFFED HR, THAT IT CAN BE, UH, POTENTIALLY HANDLED.

SO I'M NOT TOTALLY AGAINST THIS, BUT I WOULD REALLY LIKE US BEFORE WE SPEND MONEY ON ANOTHER CONSULTANT, WHICH WE HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, TOO MUCH OF A TENDENCY TO DO IN MY OPINION.

I THINK WE NEED TO DELAY THIS AND SEE WHAT, UH, GIVE OUR, OUR NEW HR DIRECTOR A CHANCE, UH, TO, UM, TO KIND OF LOOK AND SEE WHAT SOME OF THESE EMPLOYEE ISSUES ARE.

I CAN THINK OF SOME OF THE, UM, EMPLOYEE ISSUES IN DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS GOING ON.

BUT I, UM, AGAIN, I'D REALLY, UH, BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, I'D LIKE TO, UM, SEE OUR HR DIRECTOR, UH, HANDLE SOME OF THESE.

SO I MAKE A MOTION TO, UM, TO, TO BRING THIS BACK TO A FUTURE MEETING IN SEPTEMBER THROUGH THE CHAIR.

UH, QUESTION.

UM, FOR THE ADVICE, UH, JUST WANTED TO POSE A QUESTION.

UH, COUNCIL IS THIS TIME SENSITIVE? 'CAUSE IT'S A CONTRACT.

UM, I THINK WE CAN DELAY IT UNTIL THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.

I WOULDN'T WANT TO GO BEYOND THAT.

I WILL SECOND THAT THEN.

SO THIS IS TO BRING THIS BACK AT OUR FIRST MEETING IN SEPTEMBER.

AND THEN THAT WAY BE CLARITY AND ALSO WE CAN SEE WHERE WE'RE AT ON THE EXISTING CONTRACT AND ALSO WHAT THE, WE HAVE OUR, UH, NEW HR DIRECTOR WHO JUST, JUST STARTED.

UH, SHE CAN ALSO GET A HANDLE ON KIND OF WHAT THE NEEDS MIGHT BE.

AND THEN WE, I'M, I'M TRYING TO LOOK THROUGH THIS.

BE, UM, I SEE IT ON 8.4 'CAUSE IT'S THE, IS IT THE NO, IT'S A DIFFERENT FIRM.

I'M SORRY.

BUT, UM, SO HAVE, WE HAVE, THIS IS AN AMENDMENT.

SO WHEN DID WE FIRST, UH, CONTRACT WITH THIS FIRM? UM, I THINK THEY WERE IN, WELL, I'M PRETTY SURE THAT THEY WERE, UM, CONTRACTED BEFORE I STARTED MM-HMM .

SEE, SO THAT, THAT'S ALSO WHAT I'D LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, GET YEAH.

A CHANCE TO ASK THEM THAT INFORMATION.

SO WHAT WORK THEY, THEY HAVE DONE TO THIS POINT.

SO YEAH.

SO THIS IS A SUBSTITUTE MOTION AND WE WILL VOTE ON IT.

IF IT PASSES, THEN IT GOES, IT'S NOT A SUBSTITUTE, BUT, HUH.

IT'S NOT TECHNICALLY A SUBSTITUTE MOTION.

IT'S JUST OKAY.

DID WE HAVE A MOTION BEFORE SECOND? I WAS, I WAS THE FIRST MOTION, BUT I, MY, I'M SORRY.

I SECONDED THAT MOTION.

THERE WAS NO FIRST MOTION.

MOTION CHAIRMAN.

SO WE HAVE, UH, IF WE CAN GET, UNLESS THERE'S MORE DISCUSSION ON THE SCENE.

MR. MAYOR, DO YOU HAVE, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT, THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.

I DO ECHO THE SENTIMENTS OF MY COLLEAGUES.

I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE OF THESE DETAILS.

I KNOW WE HAD A BRIEF DISCUSSION EARLIER TODAY, BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE DETAILS.

BEFORE WE ACTUALLY EXTEND THE NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT AND ALSO WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME EVIDENCE OF THE LAST FEW YEARS AND HOW MUCH MONEY WE'VE ACTUALLY UTILIZED WHEN IT COMES TO DEALING WITH SOME OF THESE ISSUES.

[8.5 Approval of an Agreement Amendment with Liebert Cassidy Whitmore for Legal Services in the Specialized Area of Labor Negotiations by Extending the Agreement to December 31, 2025.]

NEXT WE GO TO 8.5.

THIS IS APPROVAL OF AN AGREEMENT AMENDMENT ALSO WITH LIBERT, CASSIDY AND WHITMORE FOR LEGAL SERVICES IN THE SPECIALIZED AREA OF LABOR NEGOTIATIONS BY EXTENDING THE AGREEMENT TO DECEMBER 31ST, 2025.

AND LET'S SEE, I BELIEVE YOU BROUGHT THAT, YOU PULLED THAT ONE.

UH, YES.

I, UM, SO, UH, WE'RE, UM, UM, PAR PARTIALLY THROUGH NEGO IN NEGOTIATIONS.

UM, SO I WILL, UM, I AM OKAY WITH EXTENDING IT, BUT NOT THAT AMOUNT BECAUSE WE'RE STILL IN PROCESS THAT AMOUNT OF TIME.

SO I'D MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, APPROVE THIS, BUT HAVE IT, THE AGREEMENT EXTENDED INTO SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2025 INSTEAD OF DECEMBER 31ST WITH THE GOAL OF HAVING NEGOTIATIONS DONE SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.

WE HAVE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION.

UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, UH, WOULD YOU CONSIDER AMENDING THE MOTION? UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY MEETINGS FROM NOW TILL THEN.

, OUR POA WILL HAVE WITH OUR NEGOTIATING TEAM.

I WOULD ACTUALLY BE SUPPORTIVE OF SOMETHING LIKE LATE OCTOBER WITH THE INTENT TO TRY TO FINALIZE THESE AGREEMENTS.

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SO THE ATTORNEY, YEAH, THE ONLY THING I'LL SAY IS THE LENGTH OF THIS CONTRACT IS NOT GOING TO, UH, AFFECT THEIR ABILITY TO, TO WORK AND MOVE THESE NEGOTIATIONS ALONG.

UM, SO WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT IF YOU KEEP A TIGHT STRING, SOMEHOW WE'RE GOING TO BE MORE INVOLVED IN THE NEGOTIATIONS THAN WE WOULD BE IF YOU GIVE US SIX MONTHS.

AND I, AND I THINK THAT'S RIDICULOUS.

UM, WE'RE VERY CLOSE WITH TWO OF THE BARGAINING UNITS.

WE HAVE ONE OTHER TO DO.

WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS GIVE US ENOUGH TIME TO GET ALL OF THAT DONE, AND I, I EXTENDED IT TO THE END OF THE YEAR, AND WE MAY GO FURTHER DEPENDING UPON WHERE WE GO.

SO IT'S JUST A LITTLE FRUSTRATING TO HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU EVERY MONTH FOR THE APPROVAL OF SERVICES THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA NEED .

NOW, I JUST WANNA MAKE THAT, THAT COMMENT.

I MEAN, YOU GUYS CAN DO WHAT YOU WANNA DO AND, AND WE'LL WORK WITH THAT, BUT, BUT THE IDEA THAT AN ATTORNEY IS GOING TO DO A BETTER JOB ON A SHORTER CONTRACT IN THIS, IN THIS CONTEXT, I THINK IS UNREALISTIC.

AND IT'S CERTAINLY NOT REFLECTIVE OF THE WORK THAT WE'VE BEEN GETTING FROM OUR CURRENT COUNCIL.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR OPINION THERE, BARRY.

UM, AND NO, IN MY OPINION, I, I DISAGREE AND I DON'T THINK IT'S RIDICULOUS.

WHAT I THINK IS RIDICULOUS WAS WE, AS A CITY, WHEN WE HAVE TALENT RIGHT HERE, THAT WE CONTINUE TO PAY OUTSIDE CONSULTANTS WITHOUT HOLDING THEM ACCOUNTABLE, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THEY'RE AN ATTORNEY OR NOT.

I THINK THAT HE'S DONE A DECENT JOB, BUT SINCE YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES WHERE I FEEL LIKE OUR REPRESENTATION WAS DELAYED OR THINGS WEREN'T ACTED ON DESPITE OUR COUNSEL DIRECTION.

AND SO I DISAGREE, I THINK HOLDING ACCOUNTABLE, I THINK THIS IS A REASONABLE TIME.

THE END OF OCTOBER, WE WANT TO GET THESE NEGOTIATIONS DONE.

WE STILL HAVE A COUPLE OF OUTSTANDING ISSUES.

AND SO I THINK ATTORNEYS NEED TO ABIDE BY THE SAME RULES THAT ALL OF US, ALL THE REST OF US DO WHEN WE'RE, UM, WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO GET SOMETHING DONE AND, AND TRYING TO FINISH.

SO I, I, I HEAR THAT, BUT, UH, I THINK WE NEED TO, UH, KEEP THIS BALL MOVING AND KEEP THE PRESSURE UP.

AND I THINK IT HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE THE FIRST TIME, UH, YOU ALL BROUGHT THIS, UH, TO US A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, WE EXTENDED TO THE END OF AUGUST.

SINCE, SINCE THEN, WE'VE ACTUALLY GOT, WE MADE PROGRESS ON TWO OF THE BARGAINING UNITS.

SO I, I DISAGREE AND I THINK THE EVIDENCE SHOWS OTHERWISE, BUT I DO APPRECIATE YOUR, YOUR OPINION ON THAT.

SO THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND.

YOURS WAS A SECOND, WASN'T IT? CORRECT.

CAN YOU PUSH YOUR BUTTON OCTOBER 31ST? CAN YOU PUSH A BUTTON? COULD, COULD YOU PUSH IT? OKAY.

WITH THAT, UNLESS I SEE ANYTHING ELSE, WE HAVE A MOTION SECOND, UNLESS PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION APPROVED BY FOUR TO ONE VOTE.

UM, NEXT WE GO ON TO 8.6.

[8.6 Approval of an Agreement with The Vision Culture Foundation for a Mural on the National City Public Works Building at 1720 Wilson Avenue.]

8.6, APPROVAL OF AN AGREEMENT WITH VISION CULTURE FOUNDATION FOR A MURAL ON THE NATIONAL CITY PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING.

THAT'S AT 1720 WILSON AVENUE.

I'D BE FACING, FACING TOWARD THE, UH, TROLLEY AREA.

UM, AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ANYONE HERE FROM VISION, CULTURE.

THERE THEY ARE.

HEY THERE.

THE ARTISTIC LOOKING ONES.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

HELLO.

GOOD AFTERNOON GUYS.

THANKS SO MUCH FOR GIVING US YOUR TIME.

UM, DO WE HAVE THE, A PRESENTATION, I BELIEVE, OR DO WE HAVE THAT QUEUED UP? WE DO NOT.

IT WAS NOT, IT WAS NOT PRESENTED.

NO, YOU GUYS DIDN'T, I MEAN, WE, WE SENT EVERYTHING IN AHEAD OF TIME.

I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW.

WE'LL CHECK THAT.

WE'LL, J JUST IN THE MEANTIME, YOU GUYS CAN JUST GO AHEAD AND TALK ABOUT THE, THE PROJECT.

WE'LL TRY TO GET THAT UP.

ONE, ONE OF THE THINGS YOU MIGHT GIVE, UH, SOME WORK YOU'VE ALREADY DONE IN NATIONAL CITY.

SO THE PEOPLE, THAT'S STUFF THEY'VE ALREADY SEEN.

MM-HMM.

OR, OR, OR HAVE A CHANCE TO GO AND SEE.

PUT IT THAT WAY.

SO IF YOU MAYBE EXPLAIN A FEW OF THOSE WHILE, WHILE THEY'RE SEEING IT, THEY'RE, WE'LL, WE'LL PULL IT.

THANKS AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME GUYS.

WE'RE A NONPROFIT 5 0 1 C3 ON HIGHLAND AVENUE HERE IN NATIONAL CITY.

PROPOSING ON, UH, THE PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING ON 18TH, I BELIEVE IT'S ON 18TH STREET.

FOR THE PAST FIVE YEARS, WE'VE OPENED OUR DOORS TO THE COMMUNITY WHERE WE OPEN, I MEAN, WHERE WE, UH, OFFER FREE PROGRAMMING AND ART, ART THERAPY, MENTAL HEALTH SUPPORT AND RESOURCES.

WE ALSO DO A LOT OF PUBLIC ART, AND THAT'S WHAT WE WERE HERE TO PRESENT ABOUT TODAY.

UM, WE HAVE A COUPLE, WE'VE BEEN COLLABORATING WITH THE CITY, WITH PEOPLE FROM THE CITY WHO DO GRAFFITI ABATEMENT AND BEAUTIFICATION AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, SO WE BASICALLY WANTED TO PROPOSE, WE, UH, OUR ARTIST DAVID, RIGHT HERE, UM, RENDERED A, A MURAL THAT WE WERE

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COLLABORATING WITH VISION.

DO YOU WANNA GIVE SOME BACKGROUND ON THE PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING? YEAH.

I'M SENIOR GRAFFITI, UH, UH, BATEMAN OFF, UH, OFFICER HERE, UM, 24TH AND CIVIC, CIVIC 24TH STREET, RIGHT THERE.

THAT WALL RIGHT THERE GETS HIT DAILY.

AND THE THING IS THAT I HAD A VISION, LIKE, HOW DO WE STOP THIS, UH, GRAFFITI, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THE ONLY WAY WE'D BE ABLE TO STOP THIS GRAFFITI OR SLOW IT DOWN IS, UH, IS TO, UH, PARTNER UP WITH VISION, CULTURE OF PUTTING IN A, UH, MURAL.

THIS MURAL CAME UP.

IT WAS LIKE, WELL, IT'S FUNNY 'CAUSE UH, MARCUS AND I WERE IN THE STEPS OVER HERE BY THE CITY HALL.

WE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, TALKED ABOUT IT, AND HE KIND OF PUSHED MORE, A LITTLE BIT MORE ON IT, AND DEFINITELY MADE, MADE SOMETHING HAPPEN.

CULTURE THAT WAS HERE WITH ME WAS THILLO AND, UH, RJ WAS NEXT TO ME HERE.

UH, ALSO THAT WE, WE'VE, UH, CAME UP WITH A GREAT IDEA OF DOING THIS MURAL.

AND THE THING IS THAT WE NEED SUPPORT FOR THAT.

I'M JUST WANTING TO GET THIS GUY GOING HERE SO THEY COULD SHOW YOU WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, AND IT WILL GIVE YOU SOME MORE INFORMATION AS, UH, WE PULL UP THIS, UH, INFORMATION.

SORRY, MORE INFORMATION.

SO, MY NAME'S DAVID CASTILLO.

UM, I'M AN INDEPENDENT ARTIST, UM, MULTIDISCIPLINARY ARTIST FROM SOUTH BASE SAN DIEGO.

UM, I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH VISION, CULTURE FOR THE PAST YEAR, AND, UH, WHILE I'VE BEEN DOING THIS, I GOT TO MEET JAMES AND SEE SOME OF THE PROGRESS THAT THEY'VE DONE TOGETHER, PUTTING UP MURALS, BEAUTIFYING THE CITY, UM, AND JUST TAKING IT ON THEIR OWN, UM, INITIATIVE TO DO THAT.

UM, SO LIKE RJ SAID, I'M HERE REPRESENTING VISION CULTURE, A GRASSROOTS NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION, AND JAMES IS HERE SUPPORTING US AS THE LEAD GRAFFITI ABATEMENT OFFICER.

UM, I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE, ABOUT, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT LIKE THE WHO, WHAT, WHEN, AND WHERE, AND WHY AS TO WHY WE NEED THIS MURAL.

UM, LIKE JAMES SAID, IT, IT HELPS TO DETER AND SLOW DOWN THE GRAFFITI ISSUE, THE, LIKE, THE VANDAL VANDALISM ISSUE, BECAUSE GRAFFITI AS AN ART FORM IS HISTORICALLY CENTERED AROUND EM, EMPOWERING AND UPLIFTING, AND RESISTING OPPRESSION.

UM, WE FIND THAT WITH, WITH SOME OF JAMES'S, UM, NUMBERS, WHEN IT, WHEN IT COMES TO DEFINING THE COST OF VANDALISM, IT'S, IT'S LIKE UPWARDS OF LIKE $30,000 A YEAR, JUST, JUST FOR, FOR ONE WALL THAT GETS HIT TWO TIMES A MONTH.

THAT'S, THAT'S LOW NUMBERS.

THAT'S LIKE A REALLY LOW NUMBER.

LIKE THOSE WALLS ARE GETTING HIT WAY MORE OFTEN.

SO WITH, WITH THAT INFORMATION, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS A MURAL WITH A BUDGET OF $12,000, WHICH IS ALSO REALLY LOW IN TERMS OF HOW MUCH ARTISTS TYPICALLY CHARGE FOR MURALS PER SQUARE FOOT.

BUT WITH THAT, WE COULD POTENTIALLY BE SAVING THE CITY $20,000 PLUS PER YEAR, UM, JUST BY PUTTING ONE MURAL UP.

AND THE RESEARCH THAT WE WERE DOING, WE FOUND THAT IN A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT METROPOLITAN CITIES, WHETHER THAT'S MIAMI'S LIKE WYNWOOD DISTRICT, UM, LONDON, LA, WE FIND THAT THERE'S, THERE'S MORE TRAFFIC.

THERE'S, UM, LIKE MORE FOOT TRAFFIC.

PEDESTRIANS GO AND WANT TO SEE THE MURAL AND THE, THE DESIGNS THAT I CREATED, THEY'RE NOT ONLY REPRESENTING NATIONAL CITY AND THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE, WORK HERE AND GO TO SCHOOL HERE, TEACH HERE THE BUSINESSES.

UM, THERE, IT'S REALLY REPRESENTING THE COMMUNITY.

AND, AND IT'S MEANT TO BE A MESSAGE TO UPLIFT WITHOUT REALLY HAVING ANY TEXT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT USES COLOR THEORY AND SUBTLE REFERENCES AND CUES TO THE CITY THAT CAN, THAT, THAT PUT, UM, LIKE A PINPOINT ON SPECIFIC LIKE LANDMARKS, OCCUPATIONS, UM, THAT WE CAN, WE CAN REALLY USE AS A PEOPLE AS A COMMUNITY.

UM, THE RESEARCH SHOWS THAT THAT MURALS IN PUBLIC PLACES HAVE THE SAME CALMING EFFECT THAT, UM, A GREEN AREA OR A PARK MIGHT HAVE.

SO, CHAIR, YES, I'D LIKE TO SEE OUR PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING UP THERE ON WILSON.

BE BEAUTIFUL.

YEAH, THANK YOU.

COUNCIL.

YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THAT'S FULL OF GRAFFITI AND THEN SOMETIMES IT GETS TO BE AN ENCAMPMENT.

I THINK THIS, UH, RECOMMENDATION, I'M SURE FROM OUR, UH, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR AND OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTORS HERE, I LIKE TO SEE THAT PRETTY.

AND I, I'VE SEEN YOUR WORK IN OUR CITY.

IT, IF WE CAN, UH, IF YOU COULD JUST NAME OFF A COUPLE OF YOUR, YOUR, I'M GONNA CALL 'EM ART PIECES THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE IN THE CITY.

AND OUTSIDE OF OUR CITY.

AND, UH, MR. MAYOR, IF THERE'S NO OTHER, UM, UM, WELL, WE'RE, WE'RE WAITING FOR THEM TO PULL UP THEIR PRESENTATION.

UH, LET, LET ME JUST ASK IN LIEU OF THAT FOR THE MOMENT WHILE THEY'RE STILL TRYING TO GET

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UM, WE, WE JUST HANDLED ONE THAT WAS DEFACED FOR, FOR, UH, JAMES HAD CONTACTED US.

YOU KNOW, THE NATIONAL CITY MURAL ON HIGHLAND AVENUE, THAT, THAT 16TH AND HIGHLAND THERE AT THE LAUNDROMAT.

RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT.

ON 16TH AND HIGHLAND, WE WENT OUT THERE AND JUST RESTORED THAT ONE, JUST MM-HMM .

YOU KNOW, OUT OF OUR, OUT OF OUR, OUT OF OUR POCKET.

UM, ALSO MAYBE SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN UNDERNEATH THE BRIDGE ON DIVISION AND, UM, WHAT IS IT? DIVISION IN PLA PLAZA, I THINK DIVISION IN, UH, DIVISION.

DIVISION IN PALM.

ARE YOU TALKING PALM DIVISION IN PALM? YEAH, UNDER THE BRIDGE THERE.

WE'VE DONE, YOU KNOW, ALL THE CONSTRUCTION, FENCING AND EVERYTHING RIGHT OUT ON THE CONSTRUCTION FENCING.

WE DID ALL THE, THE, THE, YOU KNOW, FLOWERS AND NATURE AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

UM, I MEAN, WE'VE HONESTLY DONE STUFF ALL OVER THE CITY.

UM, AND WE CONTINUE TO, UM, SORRY GUYS, ABOUT THE, YEAH.

THE PRESENTATION.

I HAD SENT EVERYTHING AHEAD OF TIME.

I DON'T, YEAH.

AND I, I THINK THERE WERE SOME FLOWERS ON A BRIDGE THIS LAST WEEKEND TOO.

WE DID, YEAH.

ON THE 8 0 5, UH, UH, 18TH STREET BRIDGE.

MM-HMM.

AND WE'VE ALSO HAD ISSUES WITH OUR EMAIL, SO THE FILE SIZE MIGHT HAVE BEEN TOO BIG, SO THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN WHAT, WHAT HAPPENED.

THAT'S THE PROBLEM.

IF THE FILE SIZE IS TOO LARGE, SO TIMES IT DOESN'T GO THROUGH.

THAT'S, THAT'S, I DO APOLOGIZE.

NO, NO.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

BUT WE CAN, WE CAN, UH, PULL IT.

SO I JUST SENT IT TO, TO TONY SO WE COULD PULL IT UP.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANTED TO MOVE ON TO LIKE, PROCESS TO PUT IN, I, I THINK THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS WE WANT TO COVER.

UM, YOU KNOW, ORIGINALLY THE CONCEPT OF DOING MURALS IN PLACES WHERE WE HAVE GRAFFITI PROBLEMS. AND SO, UH, TRYING TO GET BUY-IN ON THAT CONCEPT TO COUNCIL, UM, TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT OF THE FRAMEWORK OF, UH, WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THIS AREA.

BECAUSE IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT JUST THIS OPPORTUNITY.

IT'LL BE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES.

UM, WE DO HAVE THEIR PROPOSAL IN THE AGENDA.

IT IS, UH, I KNOW IT'S NOT UP ON THE SCREEN, BUT IT IS ON PAGE 1 46 AND IT DOES SHOW THE PROPOSAL.

IF YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE IT, I WILL GIVE YOU MINE.

YOU CAN SPEAK TO IT 'CAUSE THEY HAVE IT IN FRONT OF 'EM.

AND, UH, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, AGAIN, IS USING THIS PROJECT AS LIKE OUR KICKOFF FOR OUR EFFORTS TO DO MORE MURALS IN, IN THE CITY.

AND THE PROPOSAL THAT THEY'RE PUTTING FORWARD FOR THE, UH, FIRST PROJECT IS ON 1 46.

UM, IF WE COULD GET FEEDBACK FROM COUNCIL ON SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WE WANT TO, TO FRAME FOR, UM, LET'S SAY, FOR LACK OF A BETTER DESCRIPTION, UM, WE NEED TO CREATE A POLICY AT THE STAFF LEVEL THAT DOES A REAL GENERAL WAY OF FRAMING WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH AS A COMMUNITY.

AND THEN AS PART OF THAT PROCESS, WE'LL HAVE YOU GUYS APPROVE THAT POLICY.

NOT LOOKING FOR THAT TONIGHT.

TONIGHT WE'RE LOOKING TO GO AHEAD WITH THIS PROJECT BECAUSE IT, IT MEETS THE, WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THE GENERAL PHILOSOPHY OF BEING A POSITIVE COMMUNITY ORIENTED, UM, MURAL.

IT'S NEUTRAL.

IT DOESN'T CREATE, UH, NEGATIVITY IN ANY WAY IN THE COMMUNITY.

IT BUILDS COMMUNITY.

AND SO, UM, WE USE THIS AS OUR, OUR BETA TEST SORTA.

AND THEN WE WORK WITH A NUMBER OF GROUPS AND STAFF TO COME BACK WITH A POLICY PROBABLY IN THE NEXT MONTH OR TWO.

AND THAT BECOMES THE FRAMEWORK FOR FUTURE ITEMS THAT COME FORWARD.

SO THEY ALREADY WENT THROUGH THE ARTS COMMITTEE.

THE ARTS COMMITTEE MADE A RECOMMENDATION, UH, THAT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.

AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GONNA GET THE PRESENTATION UP THERE, BUT YOU DO HAVE THE, THE ARTWORK IN FRONT OF YOU.

AND IN THE INTEREST OF KEEPING US MOVING FORWARD, WE'RE LOOKING FOR, UH, YOUR FEEDBACK ON THAT.

SO, MR. CHAIR MOVING, UH, MOVE TO APPROVE 8.6 AND I'LL SECOND.

AND THEN I HAD SOME, SOME ADDITIONAL COMMENTS.

HAD SOME COMMENTS AS WELL.

MR. MAYOR.

UH, REALLY WANNA COMMEND THE EFFORT OF EVERYBODY INVOLVED, INCLUDING OUR COMMUNITY, OUR NONPROFIT PARTNERS, OUR CITY STAFF COUNCIL MEMBER, BUSH.

I KNOW YOU'VE TAKE, TAKEN A STRONG LEAD ON THIS.

REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

IT IS A WONDERFUL WAY TO BEAUTIFY OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND IT IS ACTUALLY NOT ONLY BETTER FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, NOT ONLY TO EXPRESS, UH, OURSELVES AS A COMMUNITY BETTER, BUT IT IS ACTUALLY SAVING US MONEY BECAUSE WE HAVE TO SEND STAFF ON A REGULAR BASIS TO PAINT OVER, UM, A LOT OF THE GRAFFITI THAT IS IN CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, MORE SO THAN OTHERS.

SO I REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO, UH, SETTING ASIDE FUNDING SPECIFICALLY TO INVEST IN OUR ART, INTO OUR, INTO THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM, INTO OUR ARTIST, SO THAT WE CAN DO THIS EVERYWHERE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

I THINK EVERYBODY, EVERY SINGLE DISTRICT WOULD BENEFIT FROM THIS GREATLY.

SO THANK YOU ALL.

IT'S A WIN-WIN, HONESTLY.

JUST WANT NO, BUT YEAH, I MEAN TAKE, YOU KNOW, WE JUST WANT SPEND SOME TIME ON IT AND, AND TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE IMAGES AND YEAH.

UH, YEAH, IF YOU GUYS CAN GO THROUGH THIS, UH, UH, AS QUICKLY AS WE, IT'S OKAY.

I MEAN, THEY CAN CLICK THROUGH IT.

THIS IS, WE

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WE JUST WANT THE PEOPLE OF NATIONAL CITY TO KNOW THAT THIS IS FOR THEM, THAT THIS, UH, THIS PRESENTATION IS FOR THEM, BUT, BUT MORE REALISTICALLY, THE ARTWORK IS MEANT TO INCLUDE AND REPRESENT AS MANY OF THE DIFFERENT, LIKE FACETS AND WALKS OF LIFE AND, AND CULTURES AND, AND ETHNICITIES THAT WE CAN, UM, GO TO THE NEXT ONE.

UM, AND WE WANTED TO, TO EXPLAIN AND ELABORATE ON SOME OF LIKE, THE IMPACT THAT WE WILL HAVE THROUGH THIS WORK.

UM, THIS IS THE BACKYARD, A VISION CULTURE FOUNDATION WHERE WE OFFER FREE ART CLASSES ON A WEEKLY BASIS.

UM, AND THESE ARE SOME OF THE STUDIES AND TRENDS THAT WE LOOKED AT.

WE LOOKED AT CINCINNATI, MIAMI, LONDON, PHILLY, UM, AND WHAT, WHAT HAPPENS, UM, WHEN A NICE, BEAUTIFUL MURAL IS INSTALLED IN A CITY, IT, IT TENDS TO HAVE, UM, UM, AN EFFECT ON THE AMOUNT OF ILLEGAL VANDALISM IN WHICH WE FIND THAT THE VANDALISM FALLS AND IS DETERRED BACK TO, YOU KNOW, THE SEWERS AND THE PITS AND THE BACK ALLEYS, AND NOT SO MUCH THE FRONT FACING PARTS OF THE CITY, LIKE THE FIVE FREEWAY AS OUR CANVAS.

THIS IS THE, THE NATIONAL CITY MURAL THAT WAS DEFACED.

AND, UM, OUR TEAM WENT OUT AND REALLY QUICKLY PUT IT BACK TOGETHER, BROUGHT IT BACK TO LIFE.

'CAUSE IT WAS NOT IN GOOD SHAPE.

IT HAD BEEN SITTING LIKE THAT FOR, FOR A WHILE.

UM, AND AGAIN, THE GOAL OF THIS IS TO JUST PREVENT MORE VANDALISM.

UM, IT, IT INCREASES REAL ESTATE VALUE.

THAT'S JUST A BYPRODUCT.

UM, AND, UH, IT, IT'S, IT'S MORE ABOUT THE WELLBEING OF THE COMMUNITY THAT WE'RE DOING THIS TYPE OF WORK.

'CAUSE WE DON'T WANT OUR FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS TO HAVE TO SEE THIS EVERY DAY.

WE WOULD LOVE TO, YOU KNOW, JUST BE REMINDED THAT WE'RE IN A BEAUTIFUL CITY HERE IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.

THESE WERE THE PROBLEMS THAT WE CHOSE TO FOCUS ON, WHICH WAS RE REDUCING ILLEGAL GRAFFITI.

UM, TRYING TO COUNTER THE, THE GRAFFITI ABATEMENT COSTS.

UM, REALLY SEEKING TO BEAUTIFY PUBLIC SPACES AND BOOSTING THE COMMUNITY SPIRIT.

UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE GOAL IS, IS TO MAKE OUR NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WE LIVE IN AND WORK IN MORE BEAUTIFUL.

AND WE JUST FIND THAT THERE'S SO MANY OTHER POSITIVE EFFECTS THAT ARE DOWNSTREAM FROM, FROM PUTTING A MURAL LIKE THAT UP.

THESE WERE THE HARD NUMBERS, THE FACTS ABOUT GRAFFITI REMOVAL, THE, THESE ARE, UM, PUBLICLY AVAILABLE NUMBERS.

UM, IT'S, IT'S HOW MUCH THE GRAFFITI REMOVAL TECHNICIANS GET PAID.

IT'S, IT'S HOW MUCH IT COSTS FOR THE MTS FLAGGERS TO COME OUT, HOW MUCH IT COSTS THE MATERIALS.

AND, UM, THIS IS, THIS IS, THESE WERE THE NUMBERS THAT I WAS GIVING YOU THAT IT'S, THAT IT'S $30,000 PLUS A YEAR, AND THIS IS JUST ONE WALL GETTING HIT TWO TIMES A MONTH.

AND THE QUESTION IS STILL, IS IT THESE, YOUR NUMBERS OR ARE THESE JAMES THAT YOU COME UP WITH THESE FIGURES OR, OKAY.

THESE ARE, JAMES, DID YOU HAVE ANY CO COMMENTS ON THIS? BECAUSE YOU'RE THE GRAFFITI TECH, SO DID YOU YES, ACTUALLY THAT IS THE CORRECT NUMBER.

WE GAVE, UH, VISION CORY, THAT WE DO THIS, UH, TWICE, TWICE A MONTH.

UH, IT COSTS THE CITY, UH, ABOUT JUST THE LOWER END OF THE PRICE OF 32,556.

THIS MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT MORE DUE TO HOW MANY TIMES IT GOT HIT DURING THE, UH, THE, THE MONTH OR, YOU KNOW, BUT YES, THESE ARE PRETTY CORRECT, ACCURATE NUMBERS.

AND I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T MESS WITH THEM.

I JUST COPY PASTED THEM FROM WHAT JAMES SAID, .

JUST WANTED TO SOURCE.

UM, SO THIS IS JUST AT A QUICK OVERVIEW.

ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS HOW MUCH WE'RE GONNA BE ASKING FOR, FOR THE MURAL BUDGET, 12,000 THAT COVERS THE ARTIST'S LABOR, UM, THE PAINTS AND LIKE MATERIALS THAT WE'LL BE USING.

AND, UM, THE, THE OTHER MATERIALS SUCH AS LIKE LADDER SCAFFOLDING, SAFETY HARNESSES, UM, AND THEN BACK TO THE 34,500 OF HOW MUCH IT COSTS TO JUST KEEP THAT ONE WALL CLEAN OF GRAFFITI.

AND THEN THE POTENTIAL CITY SAVINGS IN THE FIRST YEAR WITH A LONGER SAVINGS.

YOU KNOW, AS LONG AS THEY DON'T GET VANDALIZED.

UM, WHICH IN THE, IN THE, UH, CONTRACT THAT WE'RE WORKING ON WITH, WITH YOU AND WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY IS THAT, UM, THERE'S A, THERE'S A, A SMALLER BUDGET FROM WITHIN THAT, THAT, UM, WE'LL USE TO, UM, TO, UH, MAINTAIN IT, MAINTAIN IT IN CASE ANYTHING WERE TO HAPPEN TO IT.

WHICH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE OUR COLOR PALETTE AS ARTISTS.

WE, WE UNDERSTAND WHAT GOES INTO CREATING THIS MURAL.

SO WE, WE, WERE NOT GONNA DO ANYTHING THAT'S OVERLY COMPLEX TO WHERE THIS BECOMES LIKE SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO COME BACK OUT AND DO OVER AND OVER AND OVER.

UH, PREVIEWS OF WHAT THE MURAL WILL LOOK LIKE, UM, I'M AN ARTIST.

JUST GET IT DONE WELL AND INCLUDE THE, THE COMMUNITY AND MOVE ON.

SO, UM, AFTER THIS PAGE IS,

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I'M SENSITIVE.

DON'T JUDGE ME .

BUT THAT BEING SAID, WE DID PUT A LOT OF TIME AND ENERGY AND THOUGHT INTO EVERY SQUARE INCH OF THIS MURAL.

NOT JUST THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, BUT JUST, UM, FOR SOMEONE WHO GREW, GREW UP IN SOUTH BAY AND, AND WAS PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, TOOK THE FIVE FREEWAY EVERY SINGLE DAY OF THEIR 34 YEARS AT ONE POINT OR ANOTHER.

IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST SOMETHING THAT I FEEL LIKE EVERYBODY CAN BE UPLIFTED BY.

UM, WE WERE GIVEN PARAMETERS, SO IT'S NOT JUST LIKE I DECIDED TO INCLUDE CITY HOLLAND.

WE WERE LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE WERE GIVEN PARAMETERS AND, AND THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY DID WANT TO SEE IN THE MURAL.

BUT, UM, I WAS ABLE TO TAKE THAT AND I FEEL LIKE I WAS ABLE TO DO A CREATIVE JOB OF PUTTING THOSE PIECES TOGETHER.

AND I JUST WANT TO PREFACE THAT WITH A, A SHORT POEM.

WE ARE HERE IN THE HEART OF THE CITY BUILDING ON THE LEGACY OF THOSE WHO LIT THE WAY, BUILDING TOGETHER TOWARDS A GOAL OF A BRIGHTER FUTURE FOR OUR CHILDREN, FOR OUR ANCESTORS, FOR OURSELVES.

BUILDING TOGETHER.

THESE ARE SOME OF THE KEY ELEMENTS FROM THE MURAL.

UM, YOU KNOW, AND I'LL, I'LL LET YOU KIND OF SOAK THAT IN FOR A SECOND BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE, TO THE FULL IMAGE, AND YOU'LL UNDERSTAND THE SCOPE OF IT.

UM, THE NEXT PAGES HAVE A CURRENT VIEW OF THE MI OF THE WALL.

UM, AND THERE'S ACTUALLY MORE GRAFFITI ON IT RIGHT NOW THAN THERE WAS WHEN I TOOK THESE PHOTOS.

AND THEN, UH, WHAT POTENTIALLY CAN COME OF THIS, UM, SO THERE'S THE WEST FACING WALL THAT FACES THE FIVE SOUTH, AND THEN THERE'S THE SOUTH FACING WALL THAT FACES, UM, IS IT 16TH STREET? 18TH.

18TH STREET, YEAH.

SO THERE'S A CLOSER UP ON THE NEXT SLIDE.

SO THE WEST FACING WALL, UM, IT FROM LEFT TO RIGHT, THERE'S THE COMPASS ROWS, THERE'S THE BAY IN ORANGE, WHICH IS MEANT TO REPRESENT THE VERY UNIQUE COLOR THAT WE GET TO EXPERIENCE TOWARDS LIKE LATE SUMMER, UM, WHEN THE, THE WATER STARTS TO LOOK ORANGE AT THE SUNSET HOUR, THE GOLDEN HOUR, UM, NATIONAL CITY HIGHLIGHTED IN HUES OF BLUE.

UM, THERE'S PARKS AND DIFFERENT GREEN SPACES THAT WILL BE IN A SLIGHT, LIKE EMERALD COLOR, UM, CITY HALL AT THE CENTER.

UH, AND THEN THE PUBLIC, UM, THE PUBLIC WORKS, ESSENTIAL WORKERS REPRESENTED LIKE FACING NORTHWARDS IN, IN THIS CONCEPT OF LIKE PROGRESS AND LIKE OVERSEEING THE CITY AND LIKE MOVING, MOVING ON.

UM, AND THEN WE, WE HIGHLIGHTED OUR KEY COLORS THAT WE ARE GONNA BE USING IN THE MURAL.

AND IF YOU GUYS NEED SOME MORE TIME TO READ IT, GO AHEAD.

BUT OTHERWISE WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE, UM, IN THIS MURAL, I WANTED TO REPRESENT PEOPLE FROM ALL DIFFERENT WALKS OF LIFE AND, UH, DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS, WHETHER THEY'RE TEACHERS, UM, ADMINISTRATORS, FOOD INDUSTRY, UM, CHILDREN AND THE LIBRARY, AND PLACES LIKE MLK AND CASA DE SALU WHERE THEY OFFER LIKE, YOU KNOW, DANCE CLASSES AND SPORTS INITIATIVES.

AND IN THE BACKGROUND, IN THE TOP LEFT CORNER, IT, IT MIRRORS THE, THE TOP RIGHT CORNER OF THE OPPOSITE WALL.

AND IT, IT WOULD ESSENTIALLY LOOK LIKE TWO DIFFERENT ROWS OF PALM TREES, LIKE GOING UP DIFFERENT STREETS.

AND THEN YOU COULD SEE THE TREE TRIMMERS, LIKE STILL TAKING CARE OF THE CITY.

YOU CAN SEE THE GAS LAMPS LIKE STILL IN THE BACKGROUND.

AND IT'S LIKE ALMOST IF YOU WERE LOOKING AT THIS LIKE PERSPECTIVE OF LIKE KIMBALL PARK AND CITY HALL, BUT FROM LIKE THE SOUTH AND THE WEST, LIKE FACING TOWARDS THIS WALL.

UM, AND, UH, NOT TO BE SELFISH, BUT I DID PUT MY SON AS ONE OF THE, THE FIGURES POSING WITH HIS ARMS UP, SHOWING THE STRENGTH IS IN THE FUTURE, IS IN THE CHILDREN.

SOME OF THE IMAGES ARE TAKEN FROM, UH, MURALS THAT WERE ON CAA DE SALUD.

SOME OF THE IMAGES WERE TAKEN FROM THE, THE NATIONAL CITY PUBLIC LIBRARY ARCHIVE.

SOME OF THOSE WERE LIKE PHOTOS THAT WERE LIKE, YOU KNOW, FROM THE SIXTIES THAT I JUST FOUND IN THE ARCHIVE.

AND THEN, UM, YEAH, THE OTHER, THE OTHER PEOPLE ARE JUST PEOPLE WHO ARE SIGNIFICANT TO ME.

I STILL CHOSE TO PUT IN MY OWN ARTISTIC VOICE AND I HAD ALL MY FRIENDS AND MY TEAM BEHIND ME SUPPORTING ME TO DO THAT.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE TOOK IT TO THE, UM, THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE AND, YOU KNOW, I TALKED TO THEM ABOUT IT AND, AND ONCE I TOLD THEM THAT THEY WERE EVEN MORE SUPPORTIVE OF THE MURAL.

SO, UM, YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT,

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UM, THIS IS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT UNDERSTANDING THE PROCESS THAT WE GO THROUGH IS, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE MEETUPS AT OUR, AT OUR LOCATION RIGHT THERE ON HIGHLAND AVENUE.

WE TALK ABOUT THIS.

UM, HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET INTO THE APPROVAL PHASES FASTER WITH WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING AND GETTING INTO THE EXECUTION PHASES.

UM, THAT'S, THAT'S LIKE US AND OUR TEAM AND WHAT WE PROPOSE AND WHAT WE KNOW WE CAN DO AND ACCOMPLISH WITH, WITH OUR TEAM OF CREATIVES.

UM, AND LASTLY, I WANTED TO KIND OF TALK ABOUT THIS VISION THAT WE HAVE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS HAS BEEN, I THINK OVER A YEAR AND A HALF OF TALKING, LIKE TALKS BETWEEN JAMES AND RJ AND VISION, CULTURE AND THE CITY.

AND WE'RE FINALLY HERE, AND IT'S ACTUALLY PAST AUGUST 5TH, BUT THIS IS WHEN WE THOUGHT WE WERE GONNA MAYBE GET SOME KIND OF YES.

BUT ANYWAY, UM, WE COULD POTENTIALLY DO THIS REPEATEDLY FOR THE REST OF THE BUILDINGS SOUTH TOWARDS, NOT TOWARDS IN AND OUT.

IF YOU GO THINK ABOUT IT, THERE'S LIKE BLANK STORAGE WALLS THAT HAVE HAD GRAFFITI ROCKING ON THEM FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS.

AND LIKE, THIS IS JUST ONE WAY THAT WE COULD MAKE OUR CITY MORE BEAUTIFUL.

AND I THINK EVEN COLLABORATING WITH OTHER LOCAL ARTISTS AND, AND PEOPLE WHO PASS THROUGH OUR WALLS WOULD BE THE MOST LIKE, AMAZING WAY OF, OF MAKING SURE THAT THESE MURALS STAY UP.

BECAUSE IT WOULD, IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE SO COMMUNITY ORIENTED.

AND WE ALREADY KNOW THIS, THAT IT WOULD LITERALLY HAVE TO BE PEOPLE FROM OUTSIDE OF THE STATE OR OUTSIDE OF SAN DIEGO TO COME AND VANDALIZE THESE WALLS, IN WHICH CASE, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE WAYS OF DEALING WITH THAT.

BUT ANYWAY, THE LAST PAGE WE JUST WANTED TO LEAVE YOU WITH WAS, UH, YOU KNOW, AN OVERALL OF, OF THIS, UM, OF THIS PRESENTATION THAT YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS HAVE ALLOWED US TO, TO GIVE TO YOU.

AND, UM, JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND JUST REMINDING YOU THAT THIS IS, THAT THIS INITIATIVE IS, IS FOCUSED ON FUNDING COMMUNITY DRIVEN ART.

UM, THAT WHAT WE DO AS, AS ARTISTS AND PUBLIC ARTISTS IS WORTH BEING SUPPORTED.

IT, IT, UM, IT'S, IT'S NOT A FASTER FIXED THAN BUFFING A VANDALIZED WALL, BUT IT'S A FIXED THAT IS GONNA LAST LONGER.

THE IMPACTS AND THE EFFECTS OF IT WILL LAST LONGER ON THE COMMUNITY.

WE'LL BE ABLE TO CELEBRATE OUR LOCAL CULTURE AND, YOU KNOW, THROUGH INVITING THE COMMUNITY AND LIKE GIVING INPUT ON THIS PROCESS, IT'LL JUST ALLOW, YOU KNOW, ALL OF US TO BECOME CLOSER.

WE MIGHT HAVE DIFFERENCES, WE MIGHT LOOK AT THINGS THROUGH A DIFFERENT LENS, BUT IT'S STILL AT THE END OF THE DAY, LIKE, WE CAN INVEST IN THIS CITY TOGETHER.

WE, UH, WE HAVE SOME SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, WE HAVE, UH, UH, TED GOTCHU AND TRUTH TED GOTCH HERE, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I'M PRETTY MUCH AT MY LIMIT.

I, AS YOU KNOW, I GO HOME AND WATCH THE REST OF THE MEDIA ON VIDEO.

BUT THIS ISSUE AS AN ARTIST, I DEFINITELY ENDORSE, UH, PUBLIC ART.

IT'S A VERY TRICKY THING THOUGH, UH, AS A FAN OF MURALS.

AND I KNOW SEVERAL CHICANO, WELL-KNOWN CHICANO MURALISTS IN SAN DIEGO AND HAVE WORKED WITH THEM AND SUPPORT THEM TOO.

UH, ALL OF THIS PROJECT SHOULD HAVE BEEN OFF THE CONSENT CALENDAR.

THIS IS THE WRONG PLACE FOR THIS ISSUE.

I LIKE THAT.

YOU, THE CITY MANAGER HAS MENTIONED THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE A POLICY AND YOU ABSOLUTELY NEED ONE.

AND YOU NEED TO FIRST AND FOREMOST IDENTIFY THE FUNDING SOURCE, HOW MUCH THIS WILL COST.

I HEAR 12,000, IT'S IN THE REPORT, BUT IT'S NOT IDENTIFIED AT ANYBODY'S DISTRICT BUDGET OR ANY OTHER PLACE AND IT DOESN'T HAVE A LIMIT OR WAY TO RENEW IT.

SO WITH ALL THOSE THINGS, UM, I'M, I, I SAID HARDEST.

OH, DIRECTOR OF NONPROFITS.

SO I'M GLAD THE GENTLEMEN ARE ARE GETTING IT TOGETHER.

I'M ALSO A BIG, WHAT'S THE OPPOSITE OF FAN? I'M AN ENEMY OF GRAFFITI AND C CLICK FIX IS REPORTING GRAFFITI ALL OVER OUR COMMUNITY.

AND YOU NEED TO DOUBLE THE STAFF PEOPLE'S WORK SO THE MURALISTS DON'T HAVE TO TRY TO COVER UP EVERYTHING.

WELL, I GOT NEWS FOR YOU.

WE DID JUST DOUBLE THE, UH, THE STAFFING ON OUR GRAFFITI CREW.

BUT ANYWAY.

CITY SHOWING WORKERS IS REALLY NICE.

TRUTH, BUT A BUNCH OF ARTISTS COUNT UP HERE TO SPEAK IS WEIRD.

SO I'M ALSO, I AM HERE TO JUDGE THOUGH.

SO FIRST I LOVE THE HISTORICAL TOUCH, THE STORY THAT'S IMPORTANT.

AND AS FAR AS TECHNICALITIES OF THE DESIGN ON THE WEST WALL OF A MAP OF THE

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THE ONLY QUESTIONABLE PART I HAD IS THE BIG BLOB OF ORANGE ON THE SIDE.

I WOULD SAY IT NEEDS MORE COMPLEXITY TO DETER GRAFFITI AS WELL AS JUST LOOK BETTER.

'CAUSE I WAS JUST LIKE, WHY IS IT BLINK ON THAT SIDE? THIS JUST MY LOOK.

BUT I WAS THINKING MAYBE YOU COULD INSERT THAT POEM IN THAT PART OR MAYBE JUST ALIGN LIKE A BRIGHTER FUTURE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

UM, THE DESIGN ON THE SOUTH WALL OF PEOPLE AND PROFESSIONS IS, IS ALL RIGHT.

UM, THE GUY ON THE RIGHT ALMOST LOOKS LIKE AN OLDER JOSE.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING.

YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE PICTURE AND COMPARE.

I SHOULD, YOU KNOW, I WOULD'VE COMPARED IT HERE.

IT WOULD'VE BEEN FUN.

UM, OVERALL I LOVE THE COLOR SCHEMES AND, UM, I LIKE TO QUESTION THE STATS ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT A MURAL INCREASES A PROPERTIES VALUES OR DETERS GRAFFITI.

BUT I JUST KNOW I LIKE ART.

I DON'T REALLY CARE.

UH, YOU HAVE TO CARE WHEN YOU'RE DOING A BUDGET, BUT OUTSIDE OF THAT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO CARE.

UM, HAS ANYONE CONSIDERED, UH, CERTAIN CONCENTRATED AREAS OF HAVING CLUSTERS OF MURALS? BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE ENOUGH OF 'EM, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE AN OPEN AIR MUSEUM AND THEN YOU MIGHT HAVE TO NAME A DISTRICT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

IT'S NOT REALLY A BAD PROBLEM TO HAVE.

IT COULD BE A GOOD THING.

AND I WAS GONNA ASK ABOUT, UH, WHETHER THERE WAS ARTS COMMITTEE INVOLVEMENT.

SO, UH, THANKS SCOTT FOR THE ANSWERS ON THAT.

AND OVERALL, I'M JUST, I'M IN SUPPORT OF IT.

THANKS.

ALRIGHT, THAT'S ALL THE SPEAKERS THAT WE HAVE ON THAT ITEM.

UH, THIS IS 8.6.

WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE? YEP.

WELL, SO WE HAVE A, UM, MOTION AND A SECOND.

A, CAN YOU PUSH YOUR BUTTON? YOU'RE THE SECOND CORRECT QUESTION.

WE DON'T HAVE A SECOND QUESTION THERE.

IT'S, YES.

EVERYONE WHO IS, UH, PART OF MAKING THIS HAPPEN.

UM, SO REALLY APPRECIATE, UH, VISION, CULTURE FOUNDATION, UM, RJ, UM, UH, STEELO S UM, AND ALL OF YOUR, UH, ARTISTS FOR, UM, GETTING INVOLVED AND FOR WORKING ON THIS.

UM, THIS HAS BEEN INITIATIVE THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON SINCE I THINK, UH, SEPTEMBER OR OCTOBER OF, OF LAST YEAR.

UM, AND OUR, OUR GOAL IS FUNNY.

INITIALLY, WE'RE TRYING TO GET IT BY THE END OF LAST YEAR.

SO THAT KIND OF SHOWS YOU SOMETIMES HOW BUREAUCRACY, GOVERNMENT MOVES SLOW.

UM, BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK DONE THIS WEEKEND.

SO WE HAD OUR, UH, UH, COMMUNITY CLEANUP IN DISTRICT FOUR AT LOS PALM PARK THIS WEEKEND.

AND REALLY WITHIN 24 HOURS, I, I CALLED UP, UH, RJ AND JAMES KIM, OUR, OUR GRAFFITI TECH.

AND I SAID, HEY, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, GET SOME VOLUNTEERS TO PAINT OVER THE GRAFFITI.

AND THEN, HEY, IF YOU CAN DO A MURAL ON THE 8 0 5 BRIDGES, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

AND WE HAD MASSIVE TURNOUT.

WE HAD ABOUT 25 VOLUNTEERS.

SO REALLY WANT TO THANK EVERYONE WHO CAME OUT.

I SEE ONE OF OUR PUBLIC ARTS COMMITTEE MEMBERS, UH, CHARLES O'REILLY HERE, SO THANK YOU PUBLIC ARTS COMMITTEE FOR THE SUPPORT.

AND, AND LOOK.

SO THIS IS AT THE END OF THE DAY, THIS IS A BUDGET SAVING MEASURE.

WE'VE SEEN THIS STATISTICS WE'VE SEEN EVEN AROUND TOWN WHERE THERE'S GRAFFITI THAT GENERALLY THE TAGGERS DO RESPECT THE MURALS.

OF COURSE, WE HAVE INCIDENTS, UH, EVERY NOW AND THEN.

BUT, UH, THIS IS REALLY FOCUSING ON BUDGET, BUT IT'S ALSO ENGAGING OUR YOUTH, UM, OUR, OUR NONPROFITS, OUR LOCAL NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND THAT'S WHAT I APPRECIATE VISION CULTURE FOUNDATION DOES AS WELL.

SO THIS, UH, UM, THIS PAST SATURDAY, AGAIN, IF YOU ALL IN THE AUDIENCE, IF YOU CAN GO OUT, LOOK AT THE BRIDGE OVER THE 8 0 5 ON 18TH STREET.

LOOK AT THE BRIDGE ON NEWELL AND PROSPECT, UH, SOUTH OF THAT.

UM, SO THEY, THE VOLUNTEERS CLEANED UP THE GRAFFITI THAT SAVED STAFF TIME AND, UH, MATERIALS.

I WANNA GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO EDCO BECAUSE EDCO, WHICH WAS OUR CO-SPONSOR FOR THAT, UM, QUARTERLY CLEANUP EVENT, THEY, UM, THEY ACTUALLY, UH, PURCHASED, UH, THE PAINT AND MATERIALS.

UM, SO THIS IS IT, IT WAS JUST A BEAUTIFUL PROJECT.

AND WHAT WE SAW TOO, AS WE WERE DOING, UM, THE, THE PAINTING, THE, THE FLOWERS, WE SAW COMMUNITY MEMBERS STOP AND, AND ASK US QUESTIONS AND GET ENGAGED AND BE INSPIRED.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO TOO, IS, UM, BE A CATALYST TO INSPIRE THE COMMUNITY TO CLEAN UP THE, TO CLEAN UP.

SO IT'S NOT JUST US PAYING STAFF, BUT EVERYONE OF US FROM CITIZENS TAKING OUR, OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO TAKE CARE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYONE WHO PARTICIPATED AND GOT THAT DONE.

UH, MY COUNCIL REP, DANIEL GONZALEZ, I WANNA GIVE HIM A BIG SHOUT OUT BECAUSE HE WAS A BIG PART OF THIS IN PUSHING AS WELL.

AND THAT'S WHY IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO, TO HAVE STAFF.

UM, SO, UM, I JUST HOPE THAT THIS MOVES, UH, FORWARD.

AND AGAIN, THIS IS GONNA BE A CATALYST PROJECT.

SO IF WE GET, UM, FUTURE FUNDING, BECAUSE THIS IS PRIVATE PROPERTIES ALL ALONG THE, UM, THE I THAT CORRIDOR.

SO IF WE'RE ABLE TO GET, UM, FUNDING AND, AND EXCITEMENT FROM PRIVATE SOURCES TO MATCH FOR THE LABOR AND MATERIALS AND, AND MAKE SURE WE'RE PAYING OUR ARTISTS 'CAUSE THEY VOLUNTEER THEIR TIME, BUT THAT'S NOT SUSTAINABLE.

SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE PAY OUR ARTISTS.

SO IF WE CAN, UH, DO THAT, THIS WILL BE THE SECOND LARGEST COLLECTION OF MURALS IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY, OUTSIDE OF CHICANO PARK.

AND GIVEN JUST OUR CULTURE, WHO WE ARE IN NATIONAL CITY, OUR IDENTITY, UM, THIS, THIS IS PART OF IT, MURALS ARE A BIG PART OF WHO WE ARE.

SO I'M REALLY EXCITED, UH, ABOUT THIS.

AGAIN, IT'S GONNA SAVE MONEY, IT'S GONNA SAVE RESOURCES AND, UH, HOPEFULLY INSPIRE OUR, OUR YOUTH.

UM, SO I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS AND I WANT TO THANK, UH, UH, THE MAYOR, UM, OUR, OUR CITY STAFF,

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LAST THING I'LL SAY, UH, SHOUT OUT TO, UH, JAMES, BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN, UH, WITH US, WHAT, 20 YEARS WORKING ON THIS.

AND I, I REALLY HOPE AS WELL BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE, UH, IDEAS CAME FROM JAMES.

AND SO FROM AN OPERATIONAL STANDPOINT, I REALLY HOPE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN ELEVATE HIM TO A GRAFFITI MANAGER ROLE.

SO NOT, HE'S NOT JUST, UM, YOU KNOW, GOING OUT THERE PAINTING, BUT HE'S ALSO DOING WHAT HE DID THIS WEEKEND, WHICH IS INSPIRE VOLUNTEERS AND GETTING, UH, OTHERS TO COME OUT.

AND WE, WE BUILD A TEAM.

SO I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROGRAM AND US MOVING FORWARD ON IT.

NEXT WE GO TO EIGHT SEVEN.

SEEING NOTHING ELSE, WE DO HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR.

UH, PLEASE VOTE MOTION TO APPROVE UNANIMOUSLY.

THIS WILL INCLUDE A COURT OF STAFF.

THIS WILL INCLUDE STAFF COMING BACK WITH US, US WORKING ABOUT A POLICY ALSO ON, ON ART PROJECTS.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

UH,

[8.7 Awarding a Contract to A. Preman Roofing, Inc., for the Library Roof Replacement Project, CIP No. 25-09.]

AND I'M NOT TOO SURE, I MAY HAVE PULLED THAT IN ERROR BECAUSE ONE OF THESE EIGHT NINES LOOKS LIKE A SEVEN.

SO UNLESS SOMEBODY HAS GOT AN ITEM ON THAT, I WILL TAKE FOR MOTION.

THIS IS AN AWARDING A CONTRACT, UH, FOR ROOFING FOR THE, UH, LIBRARY ROOF REPLACEMENT PROJECT.

I DON'T HAVE ANY SCHEDULED SPEAKERS.

MOTION TO APPROVE.

MAYOR, I THINK THAT EIGHT NINE LOOKED LIKE AN EIGHT.

SEVEN.

I SECOND THAT.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

UH, PUSH IN YOUR SECOND AGAIN.

THERE YOU GO.

ALRIGHT, WITH THAT PLEASE VOTE.

UH, NEXT WE GO TO EIGHT NINE.

[8.9 National City Chamber of Commerce Economic Development Agreement – FY 26]

AND THIS IS THE NATIONAL CITY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

I HAVE TWO SPEAKERS.

UH, KAREN MCMANUS AND EDWARD NETTO, EVERYBODY.

KAREN ZAKAR MCMANUS, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE NA CITY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.

I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF OUR CHAMBER AND OUR BUSINESSES.

SO ON.

WE HAVE SHERRY GOBY, WHO IS ONE OF OUR CHAIRPERSONS FOR OUR RESTAURANT COMMITTEE.

WE HAVE A LOT OF GOOD THINGS HAPPENING IN NATIONAL CITY, AND THANKS TO YOU FOR SUPPORTING US IN THAT REGARD.

WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW IS WE'RE INTRODUCING A COUPLE PROGRAMS TO OUR, OUR, UM, OUR CHAMBER AND THAT THE, ONE OF THE FIRST ONES IS THE RESTAURANT COMMITTEE.

THAT'S A REALLY GOOD PROGRAM THAT WE'RE WORKING ON.

AND I LIKE TO LOOK AT IT.

THE CHAMBER IS THAT WE'RE WORKING, WE'RE PRO, WE'RE PROMOTING AND WE'RE SUPPORTING OUR BUSINESSES.

SO WHAT THE RESTAURANT COMMITTEE WE COULD, WE FORMED THIS COMMITTEE SO THAT WE COULD SUPPORT OUR SMALLER BUSINESSES.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A RESTAURANTS, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A MEMBER.

YOU CAN BE A MEMBER OR A NON-MEMBER, BUT WHY DON'T YOU SHARE WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE RESTAURANTS.

PUT YOU ON BOARD.

ACTUALLY, WE CHECKED YOUR EMAILS 'CAUSE WE SENT YOU AN INVITATION TODAY.

WE ARE HAVING OUR BREAKOUT MIXER ON THE 26TH, WHICH IS A TUESDAY AT CAFE LE MAZE, WHICH IS GOING TO BE AWESOME.

SO WE WANT EVERYBODY THERE AND IT'S GONNA SHOWCASE WHAT WE'RE DOING IN THE CITY.

WE'RE GONNA TRY, WELL, WE'RE GONNA MAKE THIS CITY A DESTINATION FOR YOUR FOOD.

COME TO US, COME TO NATIONAL CITY AND, AND TASTE WHAT WE HAVE TO OFFER.

'CAUSE WE HAVE EVERYTHING.

SO THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO THAT WE DON'T HAVE, I I I CAN'T WAIT TO TRY 'EM OFF.

LABORS WITHOUT BORDERS.

THAT'S HOW WE REFER TO OUR CITY.

LABORS WITHOUT BORDERS.

AND WE, UM, WE APPRECIATE ALL THE SUPPORT FROM THE CITY FOR WHAT WE'RE DOING.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE GONNA BRING TO THE BOARD IS THAT, UM, WE'RE GONNA INTRODUCE THE FARMER'S MARKET THAT'S COMING BACK TO NATIONAL CITY.

IT'S BEEN MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS, AND THAT'LL HAPPEN EVERY FRIDAY, BEGINNING ON OCTOBER 3RD.

WHAT THE GOAL HERE IS, IS TO BRING FRESH PRODUCTS AND FRESH FOOD TO OUR COMMUNITY.

AND THAT'S GONNA BE HELD AT THE MORGAN SQUARE RIGHT NEXT TO THE NATIONAL CITY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.

WE HAVE ABOUT 14 VENDORS RIGHT NOW THAT ARE INTERESTED IN PARTICIPATING, BUT IT'S A LONG PROCESS.

SO WE HAVE TO WORK THROUGH THIS, THE CITY, THE, THE, UH, HEALTH AND ALL OF THAT.

BUT WHAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO ME PERSONALLY, IT'S GOING TO GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO OUR SMALLER BUSINESSES.

IT'S THAT LADY WHO MAKES SALSA, WHO HAS ALL THE FRESH INGREDIENTS AND SHE NEEDS SOME EXTRA MONEY.

WE'RE GONNA INVITE HER TO OUR, OUR MORGAN SQUARE TO SELL THAT.

SO IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL OF OUR BUSINESSES, LARGE AND SMALL, AND OUR FARMERS.

SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS.

THE OTHER ONE IS THAT WE'RE PROMOTING IS GOING TO BE A 5K RUN.

I BELIEVE THAT'S IN THIS, THIS, UH, PROPOSITION IS THAT WHAT WE WANNA DO IS INTRODUCE OUR BEAUTIFUL CITY TO PEOPLE WHO LIVE OUTSIDE OF OUR COMMUNITY.

MM-HMM

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IT'LL START AT KIMBALL PARK.

AND WE'VE ALREADY SUBMITTED OUR TUP AND THE, UH, THE RUNNERS WILL RUN UP TO, UM, UP D AVENUE TO EIGHTH.

SO THAT'S BASICALLY OUR BUSINESS, OUR RESTAURANT AREA.

SO THEY'LL RUN DOWN THERE AND THEN THEY'LL GO DOWN THE STREET TO, UH, NATIONAL CITY BOULEVARD AND THEN OVER TO PEPPER PARK.

SO OUTSIDERS ARE GONNA BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT WE KNOW, WHAT WE ENJOY.

THEY'RE GONNA SEE A DIFFERENT SIDE OF NATURAL CITY.

SO THAT'S ON THIS INITIATIVE AS WELL.

SO WE JUST REALLY WANNA THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY AND PLEASE CONTINUE TO WORK WITH US BECAUSE WE ARE WORKING REALLY HARD FOR YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS, EDWARDO? I JUST WANNA SAY I'M A SUPPORTER OF THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

UM, BUT I GOTTA LOOK AT IT.

YOU KNOW, I'M LOOKING FOR OUTCOMES AND I THINK WHAT WE DESCRIBED WAS A GREAT DELIVERABLE, BUT I WISH I COULD HEAR SOME OUTCOMES OF HOW YOU'RE GONNA MEASURE ALL THE THINGS SHE'S GONNA SAY.

THAT'S THE ONLY THING I HAVE TO SAY.

THAT WAS ONE AREA.

THE OTHER AREA IS, AND I HAVE TO MENTION THIS, IS THAT, UM, ON FACEBOOK AGAIN, I SEE THE MAYOR AT CAFE LA MAZE AND HE WAS, UM, HAVING A GODFATHER DRINK MM-HMM .

AND I ASKED ON FACEBOOK, HOW WAS THIS PAID FOR? AND MY CROOKED LITTLE MIND, I'M THINKING, OH, IT'S CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.

WE GAVE HIM MONEY.

AND I ASKED, WELL, IS WAS CITY FUNDS USED FOR THAT FACEBOOK PAGE? AND I WAS CORRECTED AND I WAS TOLD NO CITY FUNDS WERE NOT USED.

I JUST WANNA SAY THAT'S REFRESHING TO KNOW THAT MM-HMM .

BUT I STILL HAVE FURTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.

AND I WANNA BE FAIR ABOUT ASKING EVERYBODY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS BECAUSE I ASK RODRIGUEZ ABOUT THIS.

I ASKED DEIS ABOUT THIS AND I GOTTA ASK THE MAYOR ABOUT IT TOO.

ANYTIME I SEE ANY TYPE OF INFRINGEMENT LIKE THAT, I'LL DO THAT.

UM, THAT'S ALL THE SPEAKERS THAT WE HAVE ON THAT.

AND ON EIGHT NINE, MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REQUEST AS DETAILED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

AND PART OF THIS, UH, FUNDING, UH, TO THE CHAMBER, OF COURSE THERE'LL BE THE EXPECTATION OF GETTING FULL REPORTS BACK ON, ON OUTCOMES OF, OF ALL THESE DIFFERENT, UH, DIFFERENT VENTURES THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE, UH, GOING FOR.

AND, UH, 'CAUSE WE JUST DON'T WANNA BE THROWING MONEY AND NOT GETTING I AGREE WITH YOU.

THE OUTCOMES.

SO WITH THAT, DID YOU HAVE YES.

UM, THANK YOU.

I I BELIEVE THAT THE CHAMBER HAS OUTLINED THE DELIVERABLES THAT THEY ARE GOING TO PROVIDE TO THE CITY TO PROMOTE OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES IN OUR, IN OUR CITY.

UM, THIS IS ALSO STRENGTHENING COLLABORATION.

AND, UM, THE REPORTING COMES, UM, AS PER, AS PER THIS REPORT.

AND I AM, I AM GLAD TO SEE THEM, YOU KNOW, AND, UM, ROLL UP THEIR SLEEVES, UM, WITH THE LEADERSHIP OF OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, KAREN MCMANUS TO, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN MAKE THAT NATIONAL CITY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, UH, DELIVER, YOU KNOW, I MEAN THE SERVICES TO, UH, NOT ONLY OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY, BUT THE GENERAL COMMUNITY IN, UM, AS WELL.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

BUT I DO HAVE TO REALIZE THAT IN YEARS PAST, IT HAS BEEN ACCUSED OF IT BEING, UH, POLITICALLY MOTIVATED.

UM, MEMBER RODRIGUEZ.

THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, UH, CITY STAFF AS WELL AS OUR NATIONAL CITY CHAMBER FOR THE GREAT WORK THAT WE, THAT WE DO.

UM, AS SOMEBODY THAT IS A BUSINESS OWNER AND IS MARRIED TO A BUSINESS OWNER LOCALLY AS WELL, UM, WE UNDERSTAND THE DIFFICULTY IT IS TO GET THE, GET A BUSINESS OFF THE GROUND, MAKE SURE THAT IT IS RUNNING.

AND, YOU KNOW, FOOD, I'M, I'M A FOODIE AS MOST OF THE FOLKS THAT FOLLOW OUR SOCIAL MEDIA KNOW I LOVE TO TRY NEW RESTAURANTS.

I LOVE TO EAT OUT.

BUT MAINLY I LOVE THE STORY OF PEOPLE BECAUSE WHEN YOU SPEAK TO THE OWNERS, WHEN YOU SPEAK TO THE WORKERS THERE, THEY ALL HAVE A WONDERFUL STORY OF HOW THEY STARTED THINKING ABOUT A RESTAURANT CONCEPT 15 YEARS AGO IN THEIR KITCHEN AND THEY STARTED WORKING OUT RECIPES AND 10, 15 YEARS LATER, NOW THEY HAVE A RESTAURANT AND THEY'RE THRIVING AND DOING WELL.

IT IS AN EXCEPTIONALLY DIFFICULT, UH, WORKPLACE.

IT IS, IT IS A VERY DIFFICULT, UM, UH, BUSINESS WITH SMALL PROFIT MARGINS.

AND SO SUPPORTING OUR LOCAL BUSINESS COMMUNITY IS CRITICAL.

AND WE DO HAVE A VERY UNIQUE, UH, FOOD SCENE IN THE CITY.

IT'S INCREDIBLY DIVERSE EVERYWHERE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND SO I THINK HIGHLIGHTING THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT.

WE ARE KIND OF A HIDDEN GEM.

AND SO IT IS, IT IS IMPORTANT TO DO THIS, UM, AND SUPPORT OUR CHAMBER.

I'VE ALWAYS BEEN SUPPORTIVE OF OUR CHAMBER'S EFFORTS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE SUPPORT OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES.

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I THINK THE MORE WE STEER AWAY FROM THAT AND FOCUS MORE SO ON THE BUSINESS, THE BETTER OFF EVERYBODY WILL BE.

SO THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR THE WORK.

UH, OKAY.

DO WE HAVE, UH, LET'S SEE, ANOTHER DISCUSSION, PLEASE VOTE.

[8.10 Notice of Decision – Planning Commission Approval of a Coastal Development Permit and Conditional Use Permit (CUP) for On-Site Beer and Wine Sales, and Live Entertainment at an Existing Restaurant (La Malquerida by Dolche) Located at 1524 McKinley Avenue.]

NEXT.

WE, UH, WE GO ON TO EIGHT 10.

THIS IS A NOTICE DECISION PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVAL OF A COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, CUP ON ONSITE BEER AND WINE AND LIVE ENTERTAINMENT AT AN EXISTING, UH, RESTAURANT LOCATED AT 1524.

MCKINLEY, I BELIEVE YOU PULLED THIS ONE.

AND I, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, IT'S JUST SO PULLING IT, WE JUST BRING IT TO, UH, THE NEXT, UH, MEETINGS.

AND IF YOU'RE ASKING FOR A PUBLIC HEARING, YES.

IT WOULD BE AT THE NEXT AVAILABLE TIME FOR A PUBLIC.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT COULD BE, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY CAN GET IT DONE WITHIN THE NEXT MEETING OR IF IT WOULD BE THE FALL OR THE NEXT AVAILABLE NEXT, THE NEXT AVAILABLE WHEN STAFF YEAH.

COULD, YEAH.

'CAUSE YOU HAVE TO DO THE LEGAL, UH, DISCLOSURE AND EVERYTHING.

GOT IT.

SO THE NEXT AVAILABLE WHEN STAFF, UH, IN SEPTEMBER.

AS SOON AS AVAILABLE.

SO IS THAT A MOTION? YES.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION.

STILL DIDN'T SHOW UP THERE.

DID YOU HIT IT AGAIN? DID YOU HIT YOUR, THERE IT IS.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT.

AND, UH, UH, OKAY.

SO LET'S JUST BRING IT BACK FOR, FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.

AND, UH, UH, PRIMARILY THIS IS PRETTY NORMAL TO DO WHENEVER THERE'S LIVE ENTERTAINMENT INVOLVED.

AND JUST SO THAT WE MAKE SURE ALL THE, ALL THE, UH, I'S ARE DOTTED AND T'S CROSSED.

I STARTED TO SAY IT THE OTHER WAY AROUND.

UH, YES.

MEMBER RODRIGUEZ, ALTHOUGH I AM SUPPORTIVE OF, UH, MAYBE HAVING ADDITIONAL DISCUSSIONS AND HAVE THIS BE NOT IN CONSENT, BUT AS A, AS A, UM, UH, WHAT IS IT? UM, A STAFF REPORT OR A PUBLIC HEARING, I DO SUPPORT, UH, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT THESE RESTAURANTS HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE AS MUCH PROFIT AS POSSIBLE.

AND, UH, SEEN AS THIS IS NOT AN APPLICATION FOR HARD LIQUOR, IT'S SOMETHING I DEFINITELY SUPPORT.

WELL, I SAY SINCE IT'S GONNA GO FOR A PUBLIC HEARING, WE CAN'T MAKE ANY PREJUDGMENTS UNTIL WE HAVE OUR PUBLIC HEARING.

I THINK THAT'S BEEN CONSISTENT WITH WHAT I'VE ALWAYS BEEN SAYING ABOUT RESTAURANTS.

ALRIGHT, SO WE DO HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND AND FOR THE RECORD, A WRITTEN COMMENT WAS RECEIVED ON THIS ITEM FROM TED GOTCH.

AND YEAH, AND I DON'T HAVE, I I DON'T HAVE ANY SPEAKER SLIPS ON THIS ONE.

UM, SO WITH THAT, PLEASE VOTE MOTION APPROVE UNANIMOUSLY.

UH, EIGHT 11, WHICH IS A NOTICE OF DECISION PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVAL OF A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND ONSITE BEER AND WINE SALES AND LIVE ENTERTAINMENT.

NEXT WE GO TO, AND THAT WILL BE, THAT WILL BE SCHEDULED AND, AND, UH, THERE WILL BE PUBLIC NOTIFICATION ON WHEN THE SCHEDULING FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING.

NEXT WE HAVE,

[8.11 Notice of Decision – Planning Commission Approval of a Conditional Use Permit (CUP) for On-Site Beer and Wine Sales and Live Entertainment at an Existing Restaurant (Sushi N’ Gone) Located at 1539 E 8th Street.]

AND AN EXISTING RESTAURANT LOCATED AT 1539 EAST EIGHTH STREET.

CAN YOU PULL THAT ONE ALSO? YES.

SAME.

SO, UH, I, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO BRING THIS BACK AT THE NEXT AVAILABLE, UH, SEPTEMBER MEETING FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.

MOTION APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY.

UM,

[8.12 2025 Performance Report of Annual Fire Safety Inspections ]

NEXT WE GO TO A 12.

THIS IS A PERFORMANCE REPORT ON THE ANNUAL FIRE SAFETY INSPECTIONS.

AND, UH, WE HAVE, UH, DOYLE MORRISON.

HELLO EVERYBODY.

UM, ON THIS EIGHT 12, THE ANNUAL INSPECTIONS FOR CERTAIN BUSINESSES, UH, NEEDS TO START WITH TRAINING.

INSPECTION.

TRAINING NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.

ELECTRICAL SAFETY AT THE ISO AWARD-WINNING NATIONAL CITY FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS FALLEN BELOW MINIMUM STANDARDS.

YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS UP.

SWEETWATER AND ORANGE, A GREEN BUILDING A CAR.

RAN INTO IT TODAY.

THINKING THAT THE NATIONAL CITY, THE ISO AWARD WINNING NATIONAL CITY FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS DONE DUE DILIGENCE, I STEPPED BACK AND THEN THEY BROUGHT THE, THE, UH, WRECKER IN.

CRASHED RIGHT INTO THE BUILDING.

SO I WENT OVER THERE AS THEY WERE GONNA EXTRACT THE CAR, AND I NOTICED THAT THE ELECTRICAL SERVICE WAS RIGHT IN LINE WITH WHERE THE CAR WAS.

AND I ASKED THE NATIONAL CITY FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT WE'RE STANDING THERE, HAS ANYBODY CHECKED THE CAR TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WASN'T ENERGIZED WITH THE ELECTRICAL SERVICE? AND I WAS TOLD THAT YES, WE CHECKED IT, WE HAD OUR HANDS ALL OVER THAT CAR ALREADY AND THAT THE POWER HAD BEEN SECURED.

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AND WHEN THEY COMMENCED TO PULL THE CAR OUT OF THERE, THE WALL CAME CRUMBLING DOWN, THE ELECTRICAL SERVICE WENT.

AND I LOOKED UP AND I STARTED, BECAUSE OF MY EXPERIENCE, I REALIZED THAT THE ELECTRICAL SERVICE HAD NOT BEEN REMOVED.

SO THEY PUT EVERYBODY IN DANGER.

ALL THE FIREMEN THAT WERE HAD THEIR HANDS ALL OVER IT, ALL OVER THAT CAR WERE ALL PUT IN SERIOUS JEOPARDY.

THEY COULD HAVE BEEN ELECTROCUTED.

THE WRECKER THAT WAS DRIVING THE WRECKER WAS PUT IN THAT, THAT SAME PREDICAMENT, YOUR CITY OFFICIAL THAT CAME AND PARKED IN THE RED ZONE, BREAKING THE DAYLIGHT, UM, NEW DAYLIGHTING LAW ON THAT STREET ON OLIVE STREET.

HE WAS THERE DIGGING THROUGH THE RUBBLE WITH THE ELECTRICAL SERVICE THERE.

THE NATIONAL CITY FIRE DEPARTMENT GAVE THE WRECKER ONE OF THEIR TOOLS, WHICH PUTS THE CITY AT SERIOUS RISK FOR A LAWSUIT.

HE TOOK THAT AND SAWED ON THAT EQUIPMENT.

SO I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME TRAINING DONE IN THE INSPECTIONS.

UH, THAT'S THE ONLY SPEAKER I HAVE THAT ON, ON EIGHT 12.

THIS IS PERFORMANCE, UH, REPORT.

WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE? I MAKE A COMMENT TO MOVE THIS FORWARD.

I'M SORRY.

I MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE THIS FORWARD.

OH, I'M SORRY.

I GUESS WAS IT, WERE YOU GONNA DO IT? I WAS SECONDING YOU OKAY? OKAY, THERE WE GO.

OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION.

AND SECOND.

SEEING NO DISCUSSION, MR. CHAIR? OH, YES.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT, UM, WITH REGARDS TO THIS PERFORMANCE REPORT.

UM, THANK YOU CHIEF FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU DO FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

MAYBE THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THINGS THAT THEY HAVE SAID, BUT I KNOW THAT YOU ARE VERY DILIGENT IN MAKING SURE THAT, UM, THAT SAFETY AND SECURITY OF OUR PEOPLE AND OUR, OUR, UM, EMPLOYEES OR, OR YOUR FIRE PEOPLE, UM, ARE, ARE SAFE.

UM, I, UH, THANK YOU FOR THIS REPORT.

UM, I, UH, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I, I KNOW I ASK FOR A REPORT LIKE THIS AND IT'S HERE.

IT'S NICE TO KNOW AS A PERSON WHO IS A LAY PERSON TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE ARE DELIVERING THIS, UH, SERVICES TO OUR PEOPLE.

THANK YOU, CHIEF.

THANK YOU SIR.

WITH THAT, SEEING NOTHING ELSE, UH, IF WE COULD PLEASE VOTE.

[8.14 Warrant Register No. 47 for the Period of 5/16/25 through 5/22/25 in the Amount of $2,277,810.41]

NEXT WE GO TO EIGHT 14.

THIS IS A WARRANT REGISTRY AND WE HAVE A COUPLE OF SPEAKERS, BUT THREE OF 'EM HERE IT LOOKS LIKE.

UH, SO WE HAVE A TRUTH FOLLOWED BY EDWARD, UH, NIETO TO FOLLOWED BY THOMAS REICH.

A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE RESTLESS IN THE GALLERY.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT FOR THE RECORD.

SORRY.

PEOPLE, UH, ONE DITAS POSTCARD POSTAGE TOTALING $991.

SO WHAT ARE YOU MAILING? I'M CURIOUS.

LIKE YOU THINK IT COULD BE THE $16,000 BANNER BY CHANCE? I TOLD YOU, I TOLD YOU TRUTH WAS GONNA ASK FOR THAT.

SHE LOVES WHEN I MENTION THINGS THAT SHE SPENDS TAX PAYER DOLLARS ON.

SO THAT'S WHY I HAVE TO DO IT.

UH, $8,298 ON A PROPERTY TAX RECORDS REVIEW.

AND I REALLY WISH D ONE SUPERVISOR PALOMA AGUIRE WOULD DO THAT.

THAT WAS AN EASY ONE TOO.

A $14,470 SUBSCRIPTION TO, I THINK IT'S BIBLIOTECA.

IS THAT, IS THAT NECESSARY? I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT'S FOR, BUT THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY.

AND THERE WAS A TOTAL OF $38,000 FOR FURNITURE FOR THE POLICE.

THAT'S, THAT'S A LOT.

I HOPE IT'S REALLY COMFORTABLE.

AND THIS IS ANOTHER EASY ONE.

$25,000 TO CIRCUIT WHO HAS A MONOPOLY ON THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD ELECTRIC VEHICLE INDUSTRY.

UH, SO CHILDREN CAN RIDE FREE EVERYWHERE WHILE OUR ELDERS STRUGGLE TO RIDE ANYWHERE BECAUSE ALL THE CHILDREN TAKE UP THE FREE RIDE.

ALTHOUGH I DID SEE ONE TODAY, IT HAD NOBODY ON IT.

EDWARD, UH, NIETO TO BE FOLLOWED BY THOMAS RE COME TO DISCUSS THIS, UH, WARRANT REGISTER SEVERAL TIMES.

AND AS I'M LOOKING AT THIS, I ALWAYS COME UP AND THERE'S, EVERYBODY'S ASKING QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, ABOUT THESE DIFFERENT COSTS.

AND ONE OF THE UNDERLYING THINGS THEY'RE ALWAYS ASKING IS THE COST REASONABLE? YOU KNOW, AND THE TERMS IS THAT SOMETIMES THERE'S QUESTIONS ABOUT WHETHER THE COST IS REASONABLE OR NOT.

AND THE, AND I'M SURE IT'S BEING APPROVED, YOU KNOW, BUT SOMETIMES WE GET SOME COST THAT HASN'T HAS BEEN APPROVED AND WE ASK, WELL, YOU KNOW, WHAT WAS THE STANDARD THAT IT WAS USED? UH, IT'S BEEN AS WEAK AS SAYING, WELL, THERE'S JUST AN APPROPRIATION LINE AND THAT'S

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APPROVAL ENOUGH.

THAT'S PRETTY WEAK.

NOW THE THING IS, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY'S REALLY AWARE THAT THERE ARE ACTUALLY FEDERAL GUIDELINES THAT ACTUALLY TELL YOU THAT THE COST HAS TO BE REASONABLE.

AND THERE'S CRITERIA.

I CAN GIVE YOU COPIES OF THIS AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S REASONABLE IN TERMS OF QUESTIONING, ASKING QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, UM, BUT IT'S FEDERAL MONEY AND SOME OF THIS MONEY THAT WE'RE SPENDING IS ACTUALLY COMING IN FROM THE GENERAL FUND.

SO MY QUESTION IS, WHY CAN'T WE USE THE FEDERAL STANDARDS FOR ALL THIS COST IN THE GENERAL FUND? AND IF WE COULD USE THAT, COULD WE, WE GET REIMBURSED FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT INDIRECTLY FOR THOSE GENERAL FUND MONIES? THE ANSWER MIGHT BE NO, WE CAN'T BECAUSE IT MIGHT BE DIFFERENT PROJECTS.

BUT I THINK THERE IS A WAY THAT IT'S JUST GONNA TAKE SOME WORK TO DO THAT.

SO I ASKED THESE, I PUT DOWN THESE QUESTIONS.

UM, YOU KNOW, WHY ISN'T OUR, NOT OUR GENERAL FUND MONIES BEING, UH, USED SO WE, OR THIS METHODOLOGY BEING USED SO WE CAN, UM, THE, THE FEDERAL STANDARD GUIDELINES BEING USED SO WE CAN GET REIMBURSED FOR OUR GENERAL FUND MONIES AND, UM, HOW MUCH WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WE COULD BE TALKING ABOUT 10,000 TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.

SO THIS IS SOMETHING WE'RE WORTH LOOKING INTO.

NEXT WE HAVE THOMAS REICH FOR, UH, WARRANT REGISTER 4 7 8 14.

I'M JUST GONNA SAY THE, THE REPEAT SOME OF THIS, I SEE THAT THE SUN ROAD FIRE DEPARTMENT, THIS, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ON DUTY HAVE AN ANNUAL FIREFIGHTER'S HEALTH AND FITNESS ASSESSMENT, WAS $55,000 FOR THE LIBRARY.

THE BILI SUB SUBSCRIPTION RENEWAL WAS $14,000.

THE POLICE GOVERNMENT CONNECTIONS LENOVO FUND, 14,500.

THE OMNI PACIFIC, THE OMNI PACIFIC F FURNITURE FOR THE POLICE, 38,000 AND THE CIRCUIT TRANSIT 25,800.

AND THE SHIN RYAN ASSOCIATES 24,000, NO, 18,000 FOR THE 24TH STREET TRANSIT CENTER.

THAT'S, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MR. RIGHT.

OKAY, SO THAT IS, UH, ITEM EIGHT 14.

WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE? MOVE TO APPROVE MR. CHAIR.

WE GET A SECOND ON THAT.

I'LL SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND SEE NO DISCUSSION, PLEASE VOTE.

EIGHT 15 IS WARRANT REGISTRY NUMBER 48.

[8.15 Warrant Register No. 48 for the Period of 5/23/25 through 5/29/25 in the Amount of $1,181,714.48]

AND, UH, WE HAVE A COUPLE SPEAKERS ON THAT ONE.

UH, TRUTH TO BE FOLLOWED BY MR. REICH.

YOU KNOW, IT WAS WEIRD.

YOU SOUNDED REALLY DEFLATED.

IT'S LIKE, YOU GOTTA SAY IT.

I MOVED TO APPROVE.

I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THIS ITEM.

AND, BUT IF IT'S OKAY, IF YOU'RE ALREADY DEFLATED, YOU'RE GONNA GET MORE DEFLATED.

SORRY.

DTUS SUPPLIES TOTALS $290 ON SUPPLIES.

WOW.

THAT'S A LOT OF PENS AND PENCILS WORKING TOO.

I KNOW.

IT'S MORE THAN I SPEND, I DO A LOT OF WRITING.

HA.

ANOTHER $150 JACKET FOR DTUS.

WHAT HAPPENED TO THE OTHER ONE? IT'S HERE.

YOU SEE IT? DUDE, THAT'S IT.

I'M NOT GONNA SAY IT LOOKS BAD.

I'M NOT GONNA, I'M NOT GONNA MAKE A ROSS JOKE.

I'M NOT SAYING IT LOOKS BAD.

UM, 258 UH, DOLLARS RENTAL CAR FOR MARCUS WHILE IN LA UM, WHY IT SAY NUMBER TWO? I DON'T KNOW.

IT'S NOT ACTUALLY IN TEXAS AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED.

UM, I, I, HE'S NOT HERE, BUT I'M ASKING IN GENERAL, WHY COULDN'T HE BIKE, WALK, OR TAKE PUBLIC TRANSIT THERE? IS THAT NOT REALISTIC? I DON'T KNOW.

AND, UH, $2,153 ON, I LOVE NATIONAL CITY PINS FOR RON.

I'M ONLY GONNA APPROVE OF THAT AS LONG AS I CAN HAVE ONE AT SOME POINT.

NO PROBLEM.

PRO PROJECT PROFESSIONAL KIMBALL BALLFIELD LIGHTING $9,009,000 FIRE FOR THE CITY OF FIRE FOR THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO.

UH, MR. RE MAYOR, UH, WHAT I HAVE LISTED ON WARRANT REGISTER 48, OUR PROJECT PROFESSIONAL

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FIRE MEDICAL DISPATCH SERVICES, 128,000.

AND FOR THE TROPHY, $2,150 FOR THE MAYOR FOR THE CUSTOM.

I LOVE SAN DIEGO PINS.

NO, NOT I LOVE SAN DIEGO.

PINS .

OH, NATIONAL CITY PINS.

UH, THAT'S ALL WE HAVE ON THAT ONE.

WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE, MR. KIM? MOVE TO APPROVE.

ALRIGHT, WE YOU PUSH IN YOUR BUTTON.

I DID.

NOW THERE IT GOES.

AND WE HAVE A SECOND.

MY MEMBER RODRIGUEZ.

YEAH, I SECOND THE MOTION.

I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.

AND THIS MAY BE PROCEDURAL.

IS THERE A REASON THE, UH, I LOVE NATIONAL CITY PINS, WHICH ARE FOR $2,153 ARE UNDER THE CITY MANAGER AND NOT THE, UM, MAYOR'S ACCOUNT.

I'M NOT SURE BECAUSE AS I SAY, IT CAME OUT OF, SHOULD BE COMING OUTTA MINE.

CAN WE DO FOLLOW UP ON THAT STAFF? YEAH.

AS I UNDERSTAND IT, IT WAS A PURCHASE MADE BY YOUR OFFICE, RIGHT? NOT BY THE CITY CHURCH, CORRECT? IT WAS FOR THE JULY.

IT WAS FOR JULY 4TH AND EVERYTHING.

UH, OH, REAL, REAL QUICK.

UH, I DID HEAR THE COMMENT AS I WAS, UH, USING THE BATHROOM, BUT, UH, YES.

SO THAT WAS FOR THE TRANSIT CONFERENCE.

I WILL SAY THAT, UM, I DO REGRET IN THE CAR AND THAT'S, UH, LESSON LEARNED FOR ME BECAUSE I ACTUALLY DIDN'T USE IT THAT MUCH BECAUSE OF TRANSIT.

AND I SPENT A LOT, WE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY ON, ON PARKING.

SO THAT WAS, UH, YEAH.

SO USED THE CAR FROM THE AIRPORT TO THE CONFERENCE, BUT THEN REALLY DIDN'T USE IT MUCH AFTER THAT.

SO, LESSON LEARNED THAT I'LL DO MY RESEARCH, UH, NEXT TIME.

SO I'LL, I'LL TAKE THE HIT ON THAT.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, YOU KNOW, MORE DISCUSSION.

PLEASE VOTE.

WE GO TO EIGHT 16, WHICH IS WARRANT REGISTRY NUMBER 49.

[8.16 Warrant Register No. 49 for the Period of 5/30/25 through 6/5/25 in the Amount of $3,907,751.19]

TRUTH FOLLOWED BY MR. REICH.

YOU GUYS ARE TAG DEMON TONIGHT.

NOBODY NEEDS TO APOLOGIZE FOR NOT TAKING A STUPID BUS.

THAT'S OKAY.

ALTHOUGH YOU CAN ALWAYS RESEARCH, UM, $73 FOR BUSINESS CARDS FOR THE CALEXICO RUNAWAY, KNOWN AS BEN MARTINEZ, WHO'S THAT? WHO KNOWS? UH, AND OF COURSE, $350 FOR AN EMBROIDER JACKET FOR BOTH DITAS AND HER ASSISTANT.

THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY.

WAIT A MINUTE, WE DO ADDITION ON THAT.

WHAT WAS IT? 150 PLUS THREE 50.

WE GOT 500.

WOW.

THAT'S A LOT OF JACKETS, I HOPE.

AND 34,000 MORE TO THE BORDER, TO BAYSHORE BIKEWAY PROJECT.

AND I, AS FAR AS I HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING AS FAR AS A, A GRAND OPENING HELD IN NATIONAL CITY.

NO ONE HERE HAS ADVOCATED FOR THAT.

AND YET YOU'VE GIVEN UP SOME, SOME STREET SPACE FOR, TO BUILD THIS VERY EXPENSIVE SANDAG PROJECT.

SO I'M NOT GONNA ADVOCATE FOR YOU GUYS, BUT I MEAN, I CAN, IF YOU WANNA, MAYBE I'LL SAY SOMETHING AT SANDAG AT SOME POINT I WAS, I WAS FOCUSED ON IMPERIAL BEACH 'CAUSE THEY REALLY SACRIFICED STREETS.

BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW WHAT, THERE SHOULD BE A THIRD GRAND OPENING SIMULTANEOUS HELD IN NATIONAL CITY.

SO I'M, I WOULD PUSH LOSE TO SAY SOMETHING, BUT IF NOT, I WILL SAY SOMETHING FOR NATIONAL CITY.

OKAY, STRIKE.

HERE'S THE ONES THAT I'VE NOTICED FOR REGISTER WARRANT, REGISTER, 49, DENEY AND PATE AND MORRIS, THE CUMMINS MAN ARE 234,000 CHEN RYANS ASSOCIATES.

THE BAYSHORE PARKWAY, 34,000.

NOW THAT PARKWAY GOES FROM HARBOR HARBOR BOULEVARD TO J OH TO 30TH STREET, UM, AROUND 30TH STREET BY THE MARINA STREET STREET.

POLICE DISPATCH CHAIRS, $5,500.

AND THERE'S FOR IT, SHARP ELECTRONICS, SHARP COPIER MEETING METER METERING, $16,000 AND THE COST MONEY ASSOCIATES, PORT PORT COST SHARING STUDIES, $12,800.

GEO GEO GEOS SYNTECH RECEIVED A CHECK FOR STEEL PLATES, $4,000 16TH STREET AT M GEOS, SYNTECH SEWER EMERGENCY SERVICES, $119,000.

THE PLANNING, KIMBERLY ON PROJECT CALLS, PROJECT SERVICE ON-CALL PROJECT SUPPORT SERVICES, $10,000.

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AND, AND THANK YOU.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

ALRIGHT, THAT'S ALL WE HAVE ON THAT ONE.

WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE? B TO PROOF.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, UH, MEMBER YANI, COULD YOU PUSH A BUTTON AGAIN? I DID, SIR.

UH, SEE, NO DISCUSSION.

UH, PLEASE VOTE.

CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING, FIRST READING.

UM, THAT WE FINALLY ARE THROUGH CONSENT CALENDAR.

SO LET'S, UH, LET'S GET INTO, UH, SUPPOSEDLY THE MEET HERE.

UH, WE GET INTO OUR CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING.

WELL, HUH.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

UH, MR. MAYOR.

WHAT? WHAT IS THAT? NO, I WAS JUST GONNA ASK FOR A, UH, UH, IT'S EIGHT O'CLOCK.

UM, WE'VE BEEN IN SESSION FOR OVER TWO HOURS.

WONDERING IF WE COULD TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK, IF WE CAN HOLD IT TO FIVE MINUTES.

THAT'S THE DEFINITION OF FIVE MINUTE BREAK.

IF EVERYONE NEEDS TO TAKE A QUICK BREAK, GRAB WHATEVER, DO IT.

WE'RE GONNA TAKE A QUICK RECESS.

FIVE MINUTE RECESS.

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

MAYOR, CAN WE GOING TO, UH, CALL THE MEETING BACK TO ORDER AND WE JUST LOST ONE MEMBER.

THAT WE GO ON TO NINE ONE.

WELL, I KNOW STILL HERE WE, UH, CALL THE MEETING BACK TO ORDER WITH ALL PRESENT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF, OF, UH, MEMBER RODRIGUEZ.

UM, WITH

[9.1 Continued Public Hearing - First Reading and Introduction of an Ordinance Amending Section 8.32.015 of the National City Municipal Code Related to the Keeping of Hen Chickens.]

THIS IS A CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING.

THIS IS THE FIRST RE INTRODUCTION OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 8.3 2.015 OF THE NATIONAL CITY MUNICIPAL CODE RELATING TO THE KEEPING OF IN CHICKENS.

WE ARE, WE ARE IN, WE ARE INTO, WE ARE INTO THE CHICKEN PART.

THE CHICKEN PART OF THE AGENDA.

HI, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR.

COUNCIL, VICE MAYOR, EVERYONE.

HI.

GOOD TO SEE YOU.

UM, SO LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT, THIS WAS BACK IN MAY, UH, CITY COUNCIL ASKED US TO GO AND FIND OUT HOW MANY CHICKENS WERE ALLOWED TO BE KEPT IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS, WHICH WE DID.

WE LOOKED AT THE CITIES OF SAN DIEGO, CHULA VISTA, LEMA GROVE, AND LA MESA.

SAN DIEGO ALLOWS FOR FIVE CHICKENS.

CHULA VISTA ALLOWS FOR SIX.

LEMA GROVE ALLOWS ONE PER 1000 SQUARE FEET OF LOT AREA.

AND LA MESA UH, JUST SAYS NOTHING THAT'S LOUD OR RAUCOUS, QUOTE UNQUOTE.

SO AFTER LOOKING AT THAT, WE, WE DID, UH, WE ALSO LOOKED AT THE MINIMUM LOT SIZES IN THE CITY AS WELL AS IN OTHER CITIES, JURISDICTION OR OTHER CITIES, UH, ORDINANCES AND DECIDED BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A LOT OF SMALLER PROPERTIES IN THE CITY, THAT IT MAY BE APPROPRIATE TO HAVE ONE CHICKEN PER 1000 SQUARE FEET OF LOT AREA.

THE ONLY THING THAT'S NOT DISCUSSED IN HERE IS A MINIMUM.

OBVIOUSLY THE MINIMUM OR THE MAXIMUM WAS FOUR BEFORE, UH, NOW WE'RE GOING ONE PER THOUSAND, WHICH, UNLESS IT'S A TINY LOT IS NOT GONNA BE, UH, THEY'RE PROBABLY NOT GONNA GET TO, TO MORE THAN FIVE ANYWAY.

SO, UH, I DID WANT TO JUST MENTION THAT PART.

UH, WE CAN DISCUSS THAT IF YOU LIKE, BUT THAT'S THE MAIN CHANGE.

SO WE'VE BASICALLY ADDED ONE HAND CHICKEN PER 1000 SQUARE FEET OF LOT AREA NOT TO EXCEED.

12 IN TOTAL MAY BE KEPT ON ANY PROPERTY ZONE FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USE.

THAT CHANGES FROM ONE TO A THOUSAND.

IT WAS PREVIOUSLY FOUR MAXIMUM AND THERE WAS A 20,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT SIZE.

AND THAT IS NO LONGER THE CASE.

SO WHAT WE'VE ADDRESSED AND CHANGING HERE IS DEALING JUST WITH THE NUMBERS, RIGHT? CORRECT.

THE LOT SIZE SHOULDN'T REALLY BE AS IMPORTANT AS THE OPEN SPACE ON THAT LOT SIZE.

UM, WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

UM, AND WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF SPEAKERS, UH, DOYLE MORRISON AND ALICIA MORRISON.

HELLO AGAIN, EVERYBODY.

UH, REMEMBER WHEN WE FIRST UH, BROUGHT THIS UP, I MADE A TURKEY COMMENT AND WE ALL LAUGHED ABOUT IT.

BUT IN REALITY, UH, KEEPING CHICKENS IS REALLY NO LAUGHING MATTER, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE A NEIGHBOR WITHIN AN AREA WHERE PEOPLE HAVE CHICKENS IF THEY'RE NOT RESPONSIBLE.

SO, I KNOW STAFF HAD HAD DONE SOME RESEARCH WITH OTHER CITIES AND CAME UP WITH SOME STATISTICS, BUT I'D JUST LIKE TO BRING UP SOME, UH, INFORMATION THAT MAYBE NATIONAL CITY COULD INCORPORATE IN ORDER TO NOT HAVE THE LINE OF PEOPLE COME UP HERE COMPLAINING AFTER THE FACT.

AND THOSE ARE, THAT

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SO IF YOU HAVE A 3000 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE ON A 5,000 SQUARE FOOT PROPERTY WITH AN A DU, AND YOU'VE GOT ONE STRIP OF GRASS, THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ALLOW THOSE PEOPLE TO HAVE CHICKENS BECAUSE IT'S ONLY GONNA HAVE COMPLAINTS FROM PEOPLE AROUND, UM, THE DISTANCES FROM THE DWELLING UNITS, UM, ON THE LOT AND THE NEIGHBORING DWELLING UNITS.

SO IN OTHER WORDS, IF YOU PUT YOUR CHICKENS RIGHT ON YOUR PROPERTY LINE AND THERE'S A HOUSE WITHIN 20 FEET, THEN THEY'RE GONNA PROBABLY COMPLAIN.

RIGHT? SO IT SHOULD BE THAT THERE'S A RADIUS AROUND WHERE YOU KEEP YOUR CHICKENS, WHERE THE HOUSES ARE NOT.

AND UM, OBVIOUSLY THE BIGGEST THING IS SHARING FRESH EGGS WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS IS ALSO VERY HELPFUL IN NOT GETTING COMPLAINTS.

THANK YOU, UN.

UNLESS YOU'RE THROWING THEM AT YOUR NEIGHBOR .

ALRIGHT, ALICIA MORRISON.

SO I JUST, I LIKE THAT THIS IS COMING BACK AND THAT STAFF DID THE, THE REPORT AND STUFF.

UM, BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE YOU AWARE THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE IN NATIONAL CITY WHO ARE ALREADY HAVING THEIR CHICKENS AND THEY'RE HAVING THEIR GOATS.

AND I SUBMITTED A PUBLIC COMMENT INDICATING, YOU KNOW, WHERE I'VE HEARD THESE URBAN FARMS WALKING ALONG BY THE STOCKMAN AREA.

SO YOU'VE ALREADY GOT PEOPLE WHO ARE VIOLATING YOUR ORDINANCE NOW.

SO I WOULD DO MORE INVESTIGATION AROUND THOSE AREAS AND SEE WHAT TYPES OF URBAN FARMS ARE THERE AND, YOU KNOW, IS YOUR CODE ENFORCEMENT GONNA DO ANYTHING TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE IN COMPLIANT? THANK YOU.

THAT'S ALL OF THE, UH, SPEAKERS THAT I HAVE.

UM, THEREFORE I WOULD ASK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

THIS IS JUST TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ITSELF.

UM, YOU DISCUSSION PLEASE VOTE.

AND, UM, SO NOW WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THIS.

I DID NOTICE, I KNOW THE SURVEY THAT YOU DID WAS SAN DIEGO CHULA VISTA, LEMON GROVE IN LA MESA OF THOSE, SAN DIEGO.

AND CHULA VISTA DOES HAVE A LOT OF AREAS WITH VERY LARGE LOTS AND SOME AREAS THAT ARE ACTUALLY RURAL IN BOTH OF THOSE, THOSE CITIES, UH, THE TWO CITIES THAT ARE CLOSER TO THE CONFIGURATION OF NATIONAL CITY ARE IS LEMON GROVE AND LA MESA.

AND THE ONE HAS THE ONE CHICKEN FOR A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET, WHICH IS WHAT STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED, AND THAT'D BE IN LEMON GROVE.

AND THE MESA BASICALLY SAYS, NO, NONE AT ALL.

AND, UM, UM, SO I THINK THAT KIND OF KEEPS US, I THINK THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS PRETTY MUCH IN LINE WITH THE OTHER CITIES THAT ARE LIKE MUCH MORE LIKE US, UM, IN, IN LAYOUT AND SIZE OF LOTS THINGS ALONG THAT LINE AND DENSITY.

UM, SO YEAH, I, I THINK IT'S GOOD.

I THINK IT ALLOWS, ALLOWS PEOPLE TO HAVE, UH, TO HAVE CHICKENS AS FAR AS A NUMBER OF THEM, AS FAR AS THE NUMBERS.

THERE'S STILL OTHER CONDITIONS THAT THEY HAVE TO MEET, BUT STILL.

AND, UH, UM, AND I, I AGREE WITH, UH, MRS. MORRISON, THAT IF THERE'S, ESPECIALLY IF THERE'S, UH, COMPLAINTS ON CHICKENS AND WE GET THOSE EVERY NOW AND THEN, PARTICULARLY ROOSTERS MORE THAN THE HENS, BUT, UH, UH, WE DO GET COMPLAINTS ON THOSE THAT THAT DOES NEED TO BE FOLLOWED UP ON.

AND, UH, UM, AND ALTHOUGH I DO KNOW SOME AREAS WHERE THERE ARE SOME ROOSTERS AND THE NEIGHBORS DON'T SEEM TO FIND 'EM AT ALL.

AND SO THAT'S, SO THEY PROBABLY DON'T GET COMPLAINTS.

THAT'S THE OTHER THING.

UH, SO IT'S, UH, JUST THE WAY IT IS.

BUT, UH, AND I KNOW WHEN THIS WAS FIRST BROUGHT UP, UH, WE WERE GOING THROUGH THE WHOLE THING WITH THE, UH, OH, UH, WHAT BIRD FLEW AND EVERYTHING ELSE, AND THEY WERE KILLING OFF MILLIONS OF CHICKENS AND THE EGG PRICES WERE GOING THROUGH THE ROOF AND THOSE WERE ALL STEADILY COMING DOWN.

SO IT, IT IS NOT QUITE THE, QUITE THE SAME WORLD AS WHEN THIS WAS FIRST BROUGHT UP.

BUT, UH, BUT THIS DOES GIVE A, GIVE A LOT MORE ALLOWANCE, UH, AS FAR AS NUMBERS AND, UH, GETS US BACK TO WHERE WE WERE AT BEFORE.

UH, THE IDEA YOU COULD HAVE UP TO 12 AND THEN BEFORE THE CITY PUT IT BACK DOWN TO BACK DOWN TO A FOUR.

SO IT DOES, DOES GIVE ALLOWANCE, BUT, UH, UH, IT'S HARD TO, UH, I KNOW THAT, UH, UH, DOYLE MORRISON BROUGHT UP THE IDEA OF THE, UH, THE VARIANCE BETWEEN THE SIZE OF THE, OF THE, THE HOUSING AND THE SIZE OF THE LOT.

BUT IT'S JUST, IT'S HARD TO QUANTIFY THAT IT'S REALLY, REALLY DIFFICULT.

AND, UH, SO I, I APPRECIATE WHAT STAFF HAS DONE HERE TO, UH, TRY TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT'S AS REASONABLE AND ABLE TO BE MEASURABLE AS POSSIBLE.

ANYWAY, UH, ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? YEAH, YEAH.

JUST A QUICK

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QUESTION.

SO, UM, ON THE STAFF REPORT, IT'S, UM, IT SAYS IN THE STAFF IS SUGGESTING A MINIMUM OF SIX HEN CHICKEN CHICKENS B PERMIT AND THAT THAT WAS MAXIMUM, RIGHT? A MAXIMUM OF SIX? THAT'S CORRECT, SIR.

JUST WANTED TO, YEAH, I MAKE SURE, BUT I, I MEAN, I'M OPEN THIS, I, I WOULD, I'D LIKE TO HEAR THE DISCUSSION, UH, FROM MY COLLEAGUES, BUT SO FAR THIS SOUNDS, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION SOUNDS REASONABLE, BUT IF THERE'S, UH, PUSHBACK OR ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS, I'M, I'M OPEN TO IT.

ACTUALLY.

I AND MR. MONEY DOES ALLOW FOR FORTUNE CHILLERS.

IT DOES.

UH, UH, MR. UH, MEMBER RODRIGUEZ.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

THANK YOU SO MUCH TO STAFF AND COMMUNITY FOR WEIGHING IN ON THIS, UH, PARTICULAR ISSUE.

UM, UH, I, I REALIZED THE MOMENT WE BROUGHT IT UP, IT'S, IT'S KIND OF A LAUGHING MATTER, RIGHT? MM-HMM .

BRINGING UP A DISCUSSION OF CHICKENS AND HAVING CHICKENS IN THE CITY.

BUT AS IT WAS STATED BY MS. MORRISON, THIS IS HAPPENING ALREADY IN A LOT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE A POLICY, UH, SO THAT INDIVIDUALS FOLLOW IT.

AND ALSO, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR SOME OF US THAT, THAT ARE MORE ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY TO ACTUALLY ENCOURAGE IT IN OUR COMMUNITY AND FOR THOSE THAT ACTUALLY HAVE THE SPACE TO DO SO IN A RESPONSIBLE MANNER.

SO THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR ALL THE WORK, UH, TO OUR CITY STAFF AND, UH, FOR OUR COLLEAGUES AS WELL, FOR HAVING ROBUST DISCUSSIONS AND MEETINGS PASSED TO THEIER.

OKAY? REMEMBER, YOU MIGHT, THANK YOU, SIR.

UH, NO, I DON'T WANT THOSE CHIN CHILIS OR WHATEVER THEY ARE.

THEY'RE SO CLEAR.

UM, SO, UM, CLARIFICATION.

UM, DIRECTOR READER, A MAXIMUM OF SIX HANDS PERMITTED.

ONE CHICKEN OR ONE CHICKEN OR CHICK ONE CHICKEN PER 1000 FEET OF A LOT AREA.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, I HAVE 7,000 SQUARE FEET OF A LOT AREA.

I CAN HAVE SEVEN.

I'M SORRY, CAN YOU REPEAT THAT? IF YOU HAVE A 7,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTT I 7,000 SQUARE FEET OF YES.

YOU CAN HAVE SEVEN LAND OF A SQUARE FEET, THEN I HAVE, I CAN HAVE SIX CHICKENS.

I MEAN, UH, SEVEN CHICKENS.

WHAT? SEE, NOTHING ELSE.

WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE FOLKS? THOUSAND PER SQUARE FEET.

THIS IS A, UH, THIS IS FOR INTRODUCTION .

I WILL FIRST READING AND FOR INTRODUCTION.

THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.

I WILL MAKE AN ADOPTION.

UH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR ADOPTION ITEM, UH, 9.1.

UH, THIS IS THE FIRST READING INTRODUCTION.

INTRODUCTION, YES.

WELL, WE'LL HAVE TO COME BACK FOR ADOPTION, RIGHT? UH, MR. MAYOR? YES.

I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT IF I MIGHT, UM, IN THE STAFF REPORT IT TALKS ABOUT THE MINIMUM, BUT THAT'S NOT IN THE LANGUAGE.

I WOULD NEED TO ADD THAT IN THE LANGUAGE.

WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO DO THAT? THE MINIMUM OF SIX? OR ARE WE GONNA KEEP IT? I THOUGHT IT WAS A MAXIMUM.

MAXIMUM.

WELL, WELL IT'S MAXIMUM OF 12.

IT'S MAXIMUM OF 12.

MAXIMUM OF 12.

THE FOUR GOT BUMPED UP TO SIX, BUT WE ADDED THE ONE PER 1000 SQUARE FOOT QUALIFIER AS WELL.

SO, OKAY, NOW WAIT A MINUTE.

UM, YEAH, SIX, MAXIMUM OF 12 WE HIT.

HIT ME WHERE YOU'RE WANTING TO CHANGE THAT AT.

COULD YOU? VERY GOOD.

I'LL BRING THAT BACK AT THE, UH, ADOPTION.

UM, SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY RODRIGUEZ.

OOPS, SORRY.

SOMEBODY IMANI GOT IN THERE.

YOU GOTTA GET QUICKER WITH YOUR BUTTON THERE.

UM, THE, UM, SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND AND THAT IS FOR, FOR INTRODUCTION.

THIS WILL BE COMING BACK TO US FOR ADOPTION AND, UH, AS SOON AS IT COMES UP HERE, THERE IT IS.

PLEASE VOTE.

180, BUT NO MORE THAN 60 PER.

AH, NEXT.

YEP, NEXT ONE.

I GOTTA GET MY PAGES BACK HERE.

BACK.

BACK, YEP.

THEN

[10.1 Public Hearing - First Reading and Introduction of an Ordinance Adding Chapter 6.30 (Short-Term Rentals) to the National City Municipal Code.]

BACK.

UM, SO NOW WE GO INTO OUR REGULAR PUBLIC HEARINGS.

THIS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING, THE, UH, UH, FIRST READING AND INTRODUCTION OF AN ORDINANCE, ADDING A CHAPTER, 6.30 SHORT TERM RENTALS TO THE NATIONAL CITY MUNICIPAL CODE STAFF.

THANKS AGAIN, MR. MAYOR.

UH, THANKS YOU EVERYBODY.

SO, UM, WE'RE COMING BACK FROM JUNE, JUNE 17TH, WAS THE LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT THIS.

WE'VE OBVIOUSLY HAD A FEW DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THIS ITEM AND WE WERE ASKED TO COME BACK WITH A FEW MORE CHANGES.

THOSE BEING, FIRST OF ALL, LIMITATIONS ON SHORT TERM RENTALS PER COUNCIL DISTRICT.

THAT WAS A POINT OF DISCUSSION.

WE'D INITIALLY TALKED ABOUT 180 PER, WHICH WOULD BE ABOUT 45.

SO, BUT, UH, THERE WAS, UH, TALK ABOUT EQUITY BETWEEN, UH, BETWEEN COUNCIL DISTRICTS AND THE DIFFERENCES IN THEIR GEOGRAPHIC SIZE AND SO FORTH.

SO WE WERE SUGGESTING A MAXIMUM OF 60 IN ANY ONE DISTRICT.

SO IT WOULD STILL BE A CAP OF

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SO THAT WAY IT KIND OF GETS SPREAD OUT A LITTLE BIT.

SO IF THERE'S ONE THAT'S MORE RESIDENTIAL IN NATURE AND MAY HAVE MORE POTENTIALLY, THEN THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR THAT WITHOUT VIOLATING ANY PER DISTRICT.

UH, BUT, BUT IF THREE OF THE DISTRICTS EACH GOT 60, YOU WOULD BE AT OUR MAX AND THE OTHER TWO DISTRICTS WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GET ANY.

IS THAT, THAT WOULD BE, I'M SURE IT WOULD PROBABLY, IT WOULD'VE WORK OUT IF WE, IT PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAPPEN, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S OKAY.

SO, UH, THE SECOND ITEM WAS TO TALK ABOUT CRIMINAL BACKGROUND CHECKS.

UH, THAT WAS A SUGGESTION, UM, RELATED TO, YOU KNOW, THE PROSTITUTION AND OTHER SERIOUS CRIMES THAT WERE OCCURRING.

SO, YOU KNOW, WHILE THE MAJORITY OF LANDLORDS MAY GET CRIMINAL BACKGROUND CHECKS FOR THEIR AT TENANT PRIOR TO RENTING, IT'S NOT USUALLY PREVALENT IN SHORT TERM RENTAL ORDINANCES, NOT IN OTHER CITIES AT LEAST.

SO, UM, WE CAN CERTAINLY ADD THAT THAT WOULD BE, UH, I I IT'S NOT IN THERE CURRENTLY NOT WORKING.

UH, PARDON ME.

SO IF WE WANT TO ADD THAT, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO SO.

BUT WE DIDN'T ADD INTO THE LANGUAGE CURRENTLY JUST 'CAUSE I, I DIDN'T SEE IT IN OTHER, UM, UH, IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS.

AND WE, I FEEL IT MAY BE A BIT OF A BURDEN ON POLICE STAFF TO DO THE BACKGROUND CHECKS.

'CAUSE THAT'S WHO WE WOULD RE RE UM, THAT WOULD, WHO WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR DOING THAT.

AND IF THAT HAD TO HAPPEN FOR EVERY, YOU KNOW, EVERY FEW DAYS, THAT COULD BE BURDENSOME.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING FOR DISCUSSION, UH, PERMIT COSTS IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS.

WE DID LOOK AT THAT AND IT DOES, IT VARIES GREATLY.

AND IT, IT DEPENDS.

BUT WE LOOKED AT CHULA VISTA AND VISTA ALREADY, SO WE LOOKED, CHULA VISTA IS $250 FOR A PERMIT PLUS ANOTHER $175 EVERY YEAR FOR RENEWAL.

AND THE CITY OF VISTA CHARGES A FLAT FEE OF $250 A YEAR.

SO WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION ON WHAT, WHICH ONE WE'D LIKE TO DO.

UM, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S POINT OF DISCUSSION.

UH, THERE WAS TALK ABOUT BEDROOM STORAGE.

IT TALKED ABOUT, UH, CABINETS IN LIEU OF A CLOSET.

SO WE HAVE ADDED THAT LANGUAGE IN SECTION 6.3 0.020.

ALSO THAT RENTALS NOT BE USED FOR BUSINESS PURPOSES.

WHATEVER THAT WOULD, WOULD, WHATEVER THAT WOULD BE.

AND THAT HAS ALSO BEEN ADDED TO THE DRAFT ORDINANCE UNDER 6.3 0.080 SUBSECTION M AND THEN THE LOCATION OF THE PRIMARY RESIDENCE BEING WITHIN THE CITY.

WE HAD SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT IF YOU HAD A, A PROPERTY NEARBY, BUT IT WAS OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS.

SO, UH, WE'VE CHANGED THAT TO BE WITHIN, UH, IN THE CITY OR WITHIN A QUARTER MILE OF THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL IF IT'S OUTSIDE THE CITY.

AND THAT'S ALSO BEEN INCORPORATED 6.3 0.040.

AND THE LAST POINT OF DISCUSSION WAS TO DO WITH THE NUMBER OF TOTAL RENTAL DAYS PER YEAR.

SO IF WE HAVE A HOSTED SHORT-TERM RENTAL, THERE'S NO LIMITATION, BUT IF IT'S UNHOSTED, THEN IT'S 90 DAYS A YEAR CURRENTLY, WHICH OBVIOUSLY LEAVES THE PROPERTY OWNER IN A DIFFICULT SPOT THE REST OF THE YEAR TO EITHER GET A MEDIUM OR, YOU KNOW, MONTH TO MONTH RENTAL.

SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.

AND, UH, ALSO CREATES POTENTIAL FEASIBILITY ISSUES FOR PROPERTY OWNERS WHO ARE CONSIDERING PURCHASING A PROPERTY FOR THE PURPOSES OF CREATING A SHORT TERM RENTAL.

SO THERE ARE FOLKS IN THE CITY THAT DO THAT ALREADY, AS WE KNOW.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, HAVING A 90 DAY LIMITATION ON UNHOSTED WOULD MEAN THAT THAT PROPERTY WOULD LIKELY SIT VACANT OR POTENTIALLY SIT VACANT OR HAVE SOMETHING, UM, NON PERMITTED OCCURRING AT THAT LOCATION.

UH, IT, THERE IS ALSO, UM, YOU KNOW, A HOSTED UNIT, EVEN IF THE OWNER'S PRIMARY RESIDENCE IS ON A SEPARATE PROPERTY.

HOWEVER, IF THAT PRIMARY RESIDE IS IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE SHORT TERM RENTAL, THEN IT WOULD BE CONSIDERED, UH, HOSTED ALSO, EVEN THOUGH IT WOULD BE ON A SEPARATE SITE.

SO IN CERTAIN TERMS, IF SOMEBODY BOUGHT, YOU KNOW, TWO OR THREE HOUSES IN A ROW, THAT THAT WOULD COUNT.

IF THEY HAD A SHORT TERM RENTAL IN EITHER SIDE, THAT WOULD NOT, THEY WOULD NOT HAVE THE 90 DAY LIMITATION.

BUT, UM, FOR THE, FOR THE MOST PART, WE'RE LIKELY TO HAVE, UH, AN ISSUE WITH, UH, COMPLIANCE IN THE FUTURE WITH JUST THE 90 DAYS.

SO THAT WAS ALL THE NEW INFORMATION.

SO I'LL BE HAPPY TO, TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION BASED ON THAT.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THE PRESENTATION? IF, IF NOT, I'VE GOT, UH, WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

UH, SCOTT, SCOTT, WOULD YOU WANT, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD THE COMMENT ABOUT THE MAYBE UNDERSTANDING OF FROM COUNSEL AS THE COMMENT ABOUT A BACKGROUND CHECK MM-HMM .

WAS GEARED TOWARDS THE PERSON OPERATING IT, NOT FOR SOMEONE WHO'S COMING IN TO RENT FOR TWO OR THREE DAYS, IT'S REALLY THE PERSON THAT'S OPERATING.

YEAH, THAT MIGHT, I THINK WE CAN DO THAT AND THAT SHOULDN'T BE AS PROBLEM.

RIGHT? YEAH, NO PROBLEM.

YEAH, I THINK FOR SHORT TERM RENTAL, THAT WOULD BE KIND OF HARD TO GET A BACKGROUND CHECK TURNED AROUND THAT QUICKLY.

AND THAT JUST, THAT'S JUST PRACTICALITY.

UM, OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

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AND, UH, I HAVE TWO SPEAKERS.

ED EDWARD NETTO, YOU'RE GONNA SKIP.

AND THEN WE HAVE SALVADOR, UH, AIKA HERE HE IS.

UM, GOOD EVENING MAYORS, COUNCIL MEMBER STAFF.

UM, I JUST WANTED TO COME BACK AND JUST FOLLOW UP ON WHAT WE DISCUSSED IN JUNE, MAKING SURE THAT WE KEEP ON TAB AND TASK THAT WE GET THIS DONE.

YOU KNOW, TAKING IT DOWN THE ROAD SOME MORE IS NOT GONNA BE HELPFUL.

I, I UNDERSTAND AND APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS AND THE UPDATES, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW, LIKE WE NEED TO GET THIS MOVING THE SUMMER HAS REALLY BROUGHT OUT THE BEST.

IF NOT, IF YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY.

'CAUSE AS I'M C HOME AT HOME, I THINK I'M AT NEAR THE BEACH AND TRYING TO GET HOME AND IT'S LIKE, WELL, WHAT'S GOING ON? ARE WE ADDRESSING THIS OR NOT? AND ULTIMATELY IT IS ABOUT THE SAFETY OF THE COMMUNITY AND, YOU KNOW, UM, AGAIN, I JUST WANNA SHOW SUPPORT FOR THIS AND MAKE SURE THAT WE STAY ON TASK AND, AND KEEP IT MOVING.

'CAUSE ANY MORE DELAYS IS JUST GONNA COST THE COMMUNITY TO SAFETY.

AND THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT I COME TO SAY TODAY.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

THAT IS ALL OF OUR PUBLIC SPEAKERS LIKE TO, WE'D HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SECOND WE, OKAY, LET'S GET, LET'S SEE IF WE CAN GET THE BUTTONS PUSHED THERE.

WE HAVE, I DON'T THINK I CAN.

NO, LET ME, LEMME PUSH IT ONE MORE TIME.

THERE'S THAT ONE OF THE SECOND.

WHO IS THAT THERE? OKAY.

MOLINA.

OKAY, SO WE HAVE A MOTION.

THIS IS TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

UM, PLEASE VOTE.

SO NOW WE'RE OUT OF, OUT OF THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I JUST WANNA SAY, I WANT TO REALLY THINK, I KNOW THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS INITIATED BY OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AS PART OF A COMPREHENSIVE, UH, APPROACH TO THIS PROBLEM.

I KNOW THERE WAS A LOT OF DIFFERENT, UH, A LOT OF DIFFERENT TENTACLES ON THIS OCTOPUS AND, UH, UH, BUT I AGREE WITH MR. BRE.

I MEAN, IT'S, IT WAS SOMETHING THAT DEFINITELY NEEDED TO BE DONE, UH, BUT IT WAS INVOLVED WITH A WHOLE LOT OF DIFFERENT ISSUES.

SO, UH, WE'RE TO THAT POINT NOW, SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN, WE CAN GET SOME MOVEMENT HERE.

SO WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE? MEMBER? MUL.

UH, THANK YOU MAYOR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR. READER, FOR ALL OF THIS INFORMATION.

I APPRECIATE THE CHANGES.

UM, JUST MY OPINION ON SOME OF THE POINTS THAT YOU BROUGHT UP.

I DO LIKE THE CHARGES OF, UH, $250 ANNUALLY FOR THE PERMIT FLAT FEE.

UM, I CONTINUE TO ADVOCATE FOR UNHOSTED SHORT-TERM RENTALS BEING LIMITED TO 90 DAYS PER CALENDAR YEAR.

UH, ONE POINT HERE, UM, WOULD BE HOPEFULLY DISCOURAGE UNHOSTED, UH, SHORT TERM RENTALS AND, UM, IN FACT KEEP THAT PROPERTY AVAILABLE FOR A FAMILY THAT COULD RENT IT FOR THE LONG TERM.

UH, AND THE TOTAL NUMBER OF RENTAL DAYS PER YEAR LIMIT ON MAXIMUM NUMBER OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS IS 180.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS ON CITYWIDE.

THAT'S, THAT'S THE CITYWIDE NUMBER OF PERMITS THAT WILL BE ALLOWED.

SO THIS IS LIMITED MAX MAXIMUM ON MAXIMUM NUMBER OF SHORT-TERM RENTAL PERMITS CITYWIDE? YEAH.

AND NO MORE THAN, NO MORE THAN, UH, 60 PER 60 IN ANY ONE DISTRICT.

YEAH, I UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT THIS IS UNDER THE BULLET POINT NUMBER OF TOTAL RENTAL DAYS PER YEAR, WHICH IS WHY IT WAS CONFUSING.

BUT, UM, AND THEN THAT SECOND BULLET POINT, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE POTENTIAL THAT CAN BE GAINED THROUGH TRANSIENT OCCUPANCY TAX, AND YOU'RE SAYING THE RATE IS 10%.

IF WE HAVE 180 RENTALS, UM, AT AN AVERAGE OF $500 PER NIGHT, IT WOULD EQUATE TO 3.3 MILLION ANNUALLY.

WELL, I, I THINK THAT PHRASING IT THAT WAY SOUNDS, UM, UH, AMAZING.

BUT I WANNA BE CAREFUL AND I WANNA THINK, YOU KNOW, I WANNA CAUTION US TO NOT EXPECT 3.3 MILLION, RIGHT? WE'RE NOT GOING, I MEAN, I WANT TO BE AS, UH, YOU KNOW, AS, AS REALISTIC ABOUT THIS AS POSSIBLE.

I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT WE WILL HAVE 180 RENTALS AT AN AVERAGE OF $500 PER NIGHT, UM, AT THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT, YOU KNOW, TO THEN COUNT ON THAT 3.3 MILLION.

SO I, THE NUMBER SOUNDS FANTASTIC, BUT AGAIN, LET'S BE REAL HERE.

UM, AND THEN THE, THE OTHER POINT ON HERE, YOU KNOW, IF, UM, WE DO LIMIT THE NON HOSTED SHORT TERM RENTALS TO A MAXIMUM OF 90 DAYS, IT WOULD REDUCE

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THE $3.3 MILLION BY 75%.

I DON'T AGREE.

I MEAN, YES, THERE WILL BE A REDUCTION, UM, BUT I THINK THE BENEFIT TO THAT REDUCTION IS HOPEFULLY A HOME STAYS AVAILABLE FOR A FAMILY THAT CAN RENT IT, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR THE LONG DURATION VERSUS A FAMILY BEING BOOTED OUT OF A HOME IN SUCH A TIGHT RENTAL MARKET ALREADY SO THAT THE ODOR CAN PROFIT OFF OF SHORT TERM VACATION RENTALS.

SO, UM, THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS.

THANK YOU, CHAIR.

UM, JUST LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS, UM, IT SAYS HERE, PER DISTRICT WOULD BE 60, BUT THEN WE HAVE TO LIMIT IT FOR 180 MM-HMM .

SO IF IT'S 60 TIMES FOUR, THAT'S 240.

WE'RE NEGATING 180 ALREADY.

SO CAN WE CHANGE THAT NUMBER TO 45 EACH DISTRICT? SO THEN WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE 180 MAXIMUM.

I, I, I THINK PART OF THE REALIZATION IS IT'S JUST THAT THERE'S GONNA BE SOME DISTRICTS THAT ARE GOING TO GOING TO HAVE A MORE OF AN APPEAL TO THIS TYPE OF A BUSINESS THAN OTHER DISTRICTS WOULD.

AND THEN WE CANNOT PUT THAT LIMITATION PER DISTRICT THEN IT WOULD YOU NO.

IT WOULD NEGATE THAT RULE ALSO.

WELL, NO, BECAUSE YOU'RE ALLOWING 60, YOU'RE ALLOWING A LARGER NUMBER TO GO IN TO CERTAIN DISTRICTS, BUT, BUT YOU'RE LIMITING IT SO IT DOESN'T BECOME ALL ONE DISTRICT.

AM I SAYING THAT RIGHT? YEAH, THAT WAS THE POINT OF THE DISCUSSION WE HAD, WE STARTED TO HAVE AT THE LAST MEETING, RIGHT? 'CAUSE IT WAS 45 PER DISTRICT, BUT THAT WE WERE ASKED TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING DIFFERENT BECAUSE THAT WAY IF THERE WAS ONE DISTRICT THAT WAS GONNA HAVE MORE THAN OTHERS, LIKE, YOU KNOW, TWO, THREE, AND FOUR TEND TO HAVE MORE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES, THEN LET'S SAY ONE, UM, THEN THAT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO POTENTIALLY GO OVER IF THEY, IF THEY COULD OR IF THERE WAS A, A GAP THERE AND TO, TO HAVE MORE PERMITS ISSUED.

I, I THINK FOR THE, UH, YOU KNOW, I MEAN THE ESSENCE OF UNIFORMITY PER DISTRICT, SO THEN THERE'S NO CONFUSION LATER ON, I THINK THAT YOU HAVE TO BE, UM, CONSISTENT IN MAKING THOSE NUMBERS.

I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO ASK MR. MAYOR, HOW COME ADUS ARE NOT ALLOWED AS A, AS A SHORT TERM RENTAL? WHAT IF THAT'S THE PROPERTY THAT'S AVAILABLE FOR THOSE, UH, PEOPLE WHO ARE HOSTING IT? UH, SOMETIMES THOSE ADUS ARE, UH, YOU KNOW, I MEAN IF, IF THEY WANT THE, THE PRIVACY ALSO, IIII CAN PIGGYBACK ON WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, MOLINA SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR UNHOSTED ONES, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN IF YOU ARE, IF YOU ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M AN OR SHORT TERM RENTAL, YOU HAVE TO BE IN THE SAME LOCATION THAT'S, OR OTHER, OTHERWISE YOU HAVE TO ONLY RENT THAT FOR 90 DAYS.

IS THAT CORRECT? AM I EXPLAINING OKAY.

NO, I, YEAH, I UNDERSTAND.

UM, THE POINT WAS, WELL, NUMBER ONE, WE FELT THAT CHULA VISTA, THAT, AND THAT'S THEIR LANGUAGE, BUT ALSO WE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS AT THE PRE-MEETINGS AND AT SOME OF THE WORKSHOPS THAT WE DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE OUR, YOU KNOW, ADUS OR SOME OF OUR CHEAPER RENTALS AND TO HAVE THOSE OFF THE MARKET.

OBVIOUSLY WE'VE HAD THE CONVERSATION ABOUT TYING UP, UM, YOU KNOW, SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES, BUT, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE CAN ONLY AFFORD TO RENT AFFORDED BY ADU.

SO THAT WAS WHERE THAT CAME FROM.

I SEE.

OF COURSE, EVERYTHING'S UP FOR DISCUSSION, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S THE PREMISE.

I I LIKE THE, UH, PERMITTING PROCESS, YOU KNOW, I MEAN THE, THE AMOUNT.

UM, BUT WELL, I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO, UH, CAUTION US ON THE, THE REVENUE THAT WILL BE GENERATED.

WE'RE, WE'RE, UH, LOOKING AT, UH, GUESSES HERE FOR NOW.

SO I THINK, UM, WE, WE SHOULD NOT ADD THAT LANGUAGE THERE.

SO THEN WE ARE NOT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, YES, THERE WILL BE 180 RENTALS, BUT THERE'S SOMETIMES THERE ARE DOWN TIMES MM-HMM .

OH, OF COURSE.

THAT THERE ARE NO RENTALS THERE.

BUT YOU'RE ALREADY, YOU'RE ALREADY PUTTING A FIGURE OF WE'RE GONNA MAKE 3.3 MILLION ANNUALLY.

YOU KNOW, IT'S CERTAINLY NOT THAT.

THAT'S, I'M NOT A, A SEER AND I KNOW IT'S GONNA BE WELL BELOW THAT AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT.

YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO RESEARCH THE GO IN RATE FOR ADUS, UNFORTUNATELY.

UM, WHAT WE ARE, WELL, I THINK WE'LL JUST PUT THE, THE, THE AMOUNT THAT RENTAL PER, PER, PER, PER DAY.

THE 250 I BELIEVE OR PER NIGHT, 500 PER NIGHT.

AND TECHNICALLY IT'S NOT REALLY OUR CALL HOW MUCH WE'RE GONNA RENT IT.

UM, WHERE, WHERE THAT WOULD BE LOCATED, UM, WILL, WILL WE ALSO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN POINT A LOCATION WHERE IT CAN BE OR IT'S EVERYWHERE IN THE CITY? LIKE EVERYWHERE IN THE DISTRICT? LIKE, OR CAN WE SAY ANYWHERE THAT ALLOWS RESIDENTIAL USE IS HOW IT'S CURRENTLY WRITTEN, BUT IF YOU WANNA ANYWHERE THAT IS RESIDENTIAL MM-HMM .

SO, OH, AGREED.

NOW THE, THE MARKET WILL DO THAT.

YES, ABSOLUTELY.

THE, THE MARKET WILL, WILL DICTATE THAT.

SO I, I THINK WE'RE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I, I I AGREE THAT WE DON'T WANNA PUT NUMBERS THERE THAT WE CANNOT REALIZE MAYBE.

UM, AND SO IT'S JUST, UH, FOR, IT'S JUST WITH, WITH, UM, CAUTIOUS MOVING FORWARD THAT YES, WE ARE GONNA HAVE 180 UNITS IN THE 7.2 SQUARE SQUARE, UM, MILES OF OUR CITY.

UM, HOW MANY, HOW MANY,

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BECAUSE YOU ALSO SAID HERE, THEY CANNOT RENT IT AS A BUSINESS, YOU KNOW, I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S VERY SPECIFIC.

CORRECT.

FOR BUSINESS PURPOSES.

THAT WAS TO DO WITH THE PROSTITUTION OR ANY OTHER NEFARIOUS ACTIVITY THAT UNWANTED.

I SEE.

THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS, MA'AM.

IF I MAY, THE, I MEAN THE TOT QUESTION THAT'S REALLY SECONDARY.

THE WHOLE POINT WAS THIS WAS FOR PUBLIC NUISANCE AND COMMUNITY CHARACTER AND WELLBEING.

SO THE TOT IS JUST SOMETHING WE POINTED OUT BECAUSE ON TOP OF EVERYTHING ELSE, THEY'RE NOT PLAYING ON THE SAME, UH, PLAYING FIELD ON THE LOW PLAYING FIELD WITH THE HOTELS THAT DO HAVE TO PAY TOT.

I LIKE THAT CLARIFICATION.

SO IT'S JUST ALLOWING US, BECAUSE THEY'RE HERE ALREADY, LIKE 200 OF 'EM UN PERMITTED, MIGHT AS WELL GET SOMETHING FROM THAT AND REGULATED WHERE PEOPLE ARE SAFE AND, AND SECURE IN, IN THEIR MM-HMM .

YOU KNOW, IN THEIR, UH, LIVING CONDITION.

UH, MEMBER RODRIGUEZ.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR STAFF, UH, FOR COMMUNITY, FOR, UH, MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES FOR BRINGING THE ISSUE UP FOR DISCUSSION.

AND, UH, OUR POLICE CHIEF, UH, MR. HERNANDEZ, WHICH ISN'T HERE AT THE MOMENT, BUT, UM, THIS ISSUE HAS BEEN DISCUSSED NOW FOR WELL OVER A YEAR.

AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE MOVE ON THIS IMMEDIATELY.

UM, AND JUST A REMINDER WHY THIS ISSUE WAS BROUGHT UP AND FINALLY CAME TO COUNCIL.

UM, THERE WAS A SHORT TERM RENTAL ON B STREET WHERE 26 GUNSHOTS.

UM, UH, 26.

LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO CHANGE, IF ANYTHING.

GUNSHOTS HAPPENED EARLIER THIS YEAR.

AND THANK GOD NOBODY WAS HURT.

BUT, UM, YOU HAD, IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO A RESIDENTIAL AREA.

IT'S IN AN APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT CONSTANTLY HAS ISSUES.

THIS PARTICULAR SHOOTING HAPPENED AT 5 45 IN THE MORNING OR SO, SIX IN THE MORNING.

UM, NEIGHBORS WERE MESSAGING EACH OTHER SCARED, NOT KNOWING WHAT HAPPENED.

BY SATURDAY, THERE WAS A PARTY AT THAT SAME LOCATION.

AND, AND IT'S JUST INCONCEIVABLE HOW WE CAN, UH, OKAY.

WITH THIS TYPE OF BEHAVIOR AND UM, UH, UH, ACTIVITY HAPPENING IN OUR COMMUNITY.

SO I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

UH, THERE'S ANOTHER PROPERTY ON D AND NINTH, WHICH, UH, WAS A SHORT TERM RENTAL RECENTLY.

IT WAS NOW PLACED AS LONGER TERM, UH, UH, RENT, BUT IT HAD ENDLESS STRING OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING OCCURRING.

A LOT OF NEFARIOUS ACTIVITIES.

AND ANYTIME WE SPOKE TO NEIGHBORS, THEY WERE SCARED, GENUINELY SCARED JUST TO WALK THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND NOT TO MENTION THIS IS RIGHT NEXT TO A SCHOOL.

UNACCEPTABLE FOR US TO ACCEPT THIS TYPE OF BEHAVIOR IN OUR COMMUNITY.

UM, AND IT IS NOT, UH, SOMETHING THAT IS ONLY PERTAINING TO ONE PARTICULAR DISTRICT OR ONE PARTICULAR AREA.

IT'S REALLY SCATTERED THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE MOVE ON THIS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

UM, AND SO REALLY WANNA THANK, UH, AGAIN, CITY, STAFF, COMMUNITY AND COUNCIL, UM, FOR BRINGING THE ISSUE FORWARD.

AND, UM, JUST AS A POINT OF CLARIFICATION FOR THE ACTING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, MR. READER, IF PASSED TODAY, WHAT, WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS AND HOW CAN WE SEE THE IMPLEMENTATION OF AN ORDINANCE, UH, THROUGH THE CHAIR? SO THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION WOULD BE THAT WE WOULD, OBVIOUSLY ANY CHANGES MADE WILL COME BACK IN THE ADOPTION PHASE.

AND THEN WE ALREADY HAVE THREE ROUGH QUOTES FROM COMPANIES THAT WOULD BE DOING THE WORK BECAUSE WE CAN'T DO IT ALONE.

AND ONE OF THE IMPORTANT THINGS IS MAKING SURE THAT AT THE END OF THE FIRST YEAR, SECOND YEAR, ET CETERA, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE PROGRAM IS PAYING FOR ITSELF.

SO THAT MAY MEAN ADJUSTING FEES AT THAT POINT, WHICH WE WOULD DISCUSS, BUT THERE ARE COMPANIES THAT KNOW HOW TO FIND THE BUSINESSES, HOW TO CONTACT THEM, WHAT INFORMATION TO GIVE THEM.

AND WE'D OBVIOUSLY PROVIDE INFORMATION ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE AND THROUGH OUR NORMAL, UH, YOU KNOW, SOCIAL MEDIA OUTLETS TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE KNOW THAT THAT PROPERTY OWNERS KNOW WHAT THEY'RE REQUIRED TO BE DOING AND GET THAT KICKED OFF, YOU KNOW, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

WE WOULD PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THE WAY THINGS GOING, WE PROBABLY HAVE A PERMIT READY SYSTEM BEFORE, YOU KNOW, GOING ON FURLOUGH, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE REALLY.

'CAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF CURRENT OPERATING, CURRENTLY OPERATING ONES THAT ARE IN VIOLATION.

SO WE'D LIKE TO BRING THAT INTO COMPLIANCE.

IS IT FAIR TO SAY EARLY NEXT YEAR? YES.

ARE THERE ANY SPECIFIC THINGS THAT THE, UM, STAFF IS LOOKING FOR DIRECTION AT THIS MOMENT FOR THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE BEFORE WE, BEFORE I, I MAKE A MOTION? UH, WELL, I MEAN, THROUGH THE COMMENTS WE'VE HAD A, YOU KNOW, POTENTIAL CHANGES SUGGESTED, SO THAT'S, THAT'S FOR THE COUNCIL TO DISCUSS.

BUT, UM, NO, I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE CLEAR ON, ON, YOU KNOW, STAFF IS HAPPY WITH THIS DRAFT, PUT IT THAT WAY.

SO WHATEVER CHANGES WE NEED TO MAKE, UH, UH, IS FINE.

OF COURSE.

SO, BUT, UH, YEAH, JUST

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AND WE WILL GET MOVING.

UH, WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AN OR, UM, A, UH, MOTION TO INTRODUCE THE ORDINANCE FOR SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN NATIONAL CITY.

I SECOND.

OH, OKAY.

WE, LET'S GET SOME BUTTONS.

THERE'S ONE BUTTON, THERE'S ANOTHER BUTTON.

SO WE DO HAVE A, UH, MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? THIS HAS BEEN A LONG TIME COMING AND HOPEFULLY THIS IS, AND THIS WILL GET IT GOING DOWN THE ROAD A LOT FASTER.

UH, IS THERE ANY OTHER INSTRUCTIONS THAT YOU NEED ON ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAD? UH, NO.

UH, WE, IF WE'RE DOING THE INTRODUCTION BASED ON, ON HOW IT'S WRITTEN, THEN THAT'S HOW WE'LL BRING IT BACK NEXT TIME.

THAT'S ALL I NEED TO HEAR.

ALRIGHT, WITH THAT, SEEING NOTHING ELSE, PLEASE VOTE.