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PRESENT, COUNCIL MEMBER MOLINA PRESENT, VICE MAYOR BUSH HERE.
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I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE, THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC OVER WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
NOT, NOT ON WORKSHOPS, NO, JUST, JUST THE REGULAR MEETING.
UM, WITH THAT, THE, UH, WE DON'T HAVE OPEN PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME, SO WE'LL WAIT UNTIL WE GET INTO THE ITEM AND IN THAT CASE, WE
[5.1 Fiscal Year 2025-2026 Budget Workshop]
GET INTO THE BUDGET WORK SHOP ITSELF.AND ARE YOU GONNA INTRODUCE BRUCE OR BRUCE? YOU GONNA JUMP RIGHT INTO IT? UM, YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY A FEW WORDS.
UH, KIND OF FORGOT MOST OF 'EM AFTER OUR CLOSE SESSION.
BEFORE YOU, YOU HAVE THE BUDGET BINDER, UM, YOU ALSO HAVE A POWERPOINT, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE GONNA WORK THROUGH.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THE POWERPOINT NEW ONE THAT I HAVE IS THE SAME AS THE OLD ONE THAT, UH, YOU GAVE ME AN HOUR AGO.
AND, UM, THE IDEA HERE IS WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH SOME GENERAL, UM, SLIDES.
HE'S GONNA TAKE IT AWAY HERE IN A SECOND.
UH, THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT ARE GONNA DO, UM, A SHORT SPIEL ON THEIR AREA OF WHAT'S GOING ON, WHAT'S NEW.
UM, AT THAT TIME IS A GOOD TIME FOR YOU TO ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ON THEIR BUDGET, WHICH YOU'LL FIND IN YOUR BINDER, UH, IF YOU HAVE ANY.
AND THEN WE'LL MOVE TO THE NEXT DEPARTMENT HEAD.
AND, UM, AT THE END OF THAT, SHOULD PR PRETTY MUCH GO FROM STEVE ALL THE WAY AROUND, UH, BACK TO ME.
AND THEN WE'LL BOUNCE BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN, UH, BRUCE AND I.
BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE, UH, YOU'RE COMFORTABLE ASKING QUESTIONS AS WE GO, UH, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HAVE THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND THEIR STAFF RIGHT THERE FOR THE ITEM.
SO IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS, I'M GONNA PUNT IT OVER TO BRUCE AND LET 'EM, UH, GET STARTED.
THERE WAS, SHOULD HAVE TWO HANDOUTS.
THERE WAS A THICK HANDOUT, AND THEN THERE ARE A MODIFIED HANDOUT, WHICH IS ACTUALLY PARK AND RECS COMMUNITY OR COMMUNITY SERVICES.
SO THERE WAS SOME, SOME LAST MINUTE CHANGES TO COMMUN TWO COMMUNITY TWO COMMUNITY SERVICES POWERPOINT.
SO, UM, STARTING OUT, LEMME SEE HERE.
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WHOOPS, SORRY.OUR INTENT IS COVERS MANY QUESTIONS TONIGHT, UH, AND ANYTHING YOU NEED US TO FOLLOW UP ON.
AND OUR GOAL IS TO COME BACK IN, UH, IN THE MIDDLE, THE SECOND MEET MEETING IN JUNE, AND ADOPT THE BUDGET IF WE CAN.
SO WE ARE SHOOTING FOR THE, UH, IS THAT THE 17TH OR SOMETHING? 17TH.
UH, WE WILL HAVE SOME DISCUSSION TOWARDS THE END OF, AFTER THE DEPARTMENTS HAVE CLEARED THEIR AREAS, UH, WE'LL TALK ABOUT HOW WE'RE GONNA BRIDGE THE DEFICIT GAP WITH RESERVES AND, UH, WE'LL GO FROM THERE.
SO THE LAST TIME WE HAD A, A BUDGET WORKSHOP, OUR FINANCIAL NUMBERS HAVE NOT REALLY SIGNIFICANTLY CHANGED.
THERE WAS SOME SLIGHT MOVEMENT AND SOME REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES FOR, BUT FUNDAMENTALLY WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT THE SAME DEFICIT THAT WE SHOWED BEFORE.
THIS BUDGET, COMPARING TO THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, IS REALLY A STATUS QUO.
THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL STAFFING.
UM, WE ARE LOOKING AT AN INCREASE IN OUR CALPERS UNFUNDED LIABILITY INCREASING TO 3 MILLION.
THE GENERAL FUND PORTION'S A LITTLE BIT LESS, BUT CITYWIDE IS 3 MILLION.
UM, INCREASE IN GENERAL LIABILITY PREMIUMS. I HAVE A SLIDE THAT GOES INTO A LITTLE MORE DETAIL TO THAT NUMBER.
UM, A TRANSFER OF $1 MILLION TO OUR NEW CIP FUND.
WE DO, WE DID BUDGET A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR EACH DISTRICT, UM, COUNCIL DISTRICT.
UM, THIS BUDGET HAS, UM, HALF A MILLION DOLLARS FOR CANNABIS REVENUE, WHICH IS NEW FOR THIS YEAR.
AND THEN THE COLAS THAT WERE OFFERED, UM, ARE PROVIDED IN 2025, UM, ARE REFLECTED IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR.
HERE'S AN OVERVIEW OF THE GENERAL FUND REVENUES FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
THE GREEN COLUMN REPRESENTS THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR IN 2026.
TO THE LEFT OF THAT IS THE CURRENT YEAR BUDGET IN COMPARISON.
AND THEN WE HAVE THE TWO PRIOR YEAR FOR OUR PHYSICAL YEAR, 2023 AND 24.
SO THOSE ARE FULL FISCAL YEARS.
SO WE'RE COMPARING FULL 12 MONTHS FOR EACH ONE OF THOSE COLUMNS.
AND THEN TO THE RIGHT OF THE GREEN COLUMN AND KIND OF THE BEIGE COLOR, THAT IS THE COMPARISON OF THE PER CURRENT YEAR BUDGET WITH THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, PROPERTY TAXES INCREASING ALMOST A HALF A MILLION, EXCUSE ME, ALMOST A MILLION DOLLARS FOR NEXT YEAR.
SALES TAXES INCREASING 1.2 MILLION, ROUGHLY 3%.
THOSE TWO ITEMS ALONE ARE GENERAL FUND REVENUES.
UM, PROPERTY TAX AND SALES TAX MAKES UP MAKES UP ABOUT 79% OF OUR TOTAL GENERAL FUND REVENUES.
SO UNFORTUNATELY THEY WERE COMING IN STRONG WITH, UM, COMING OUT OF COVID.
SALES TAX DID INCREASE SUBSTANTIALLY.
UM, HOWEVER, IT'S STARTING TO KIND OF PLATEAU SO EARLIER WE DID NOT EXPECT TO RECEIVE QUITE 3%, BUT IT, IT, EVEN THOUGH IT IS A SMALL NUMBER, IT ACTUALLY IS GROWING BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAD ANTICIPATED.
UM, GOING DOWN, LOOKING AT THE VARIOUS ITEMS, THE VARIANCES, THE ONLY REAL SIGNIFICANT VARIANCE IS OTHER REVENUES.
I HAVE A SLIDE THAT WILL SHOW YOU WHAT MAKES UP THE TOTAL OF OTHER REVENUES, BUT, UH, THE REASON WE'RE SHOWING A A, A REDUCTION FOR NEXT YEAR IS REALLY TWO PRIMARY ITEMS. ONE, FOR THE CURRENT YEAR, WE BUDGETED 1.4 MILLION FOR INTEREST INCOME.
UM, WE'RE PROJECTING THAT, UM, INTEREST RATES WILL ACTUALLY DECREASE THROUGHOUT NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
ALSO, AS WE ARE FACING A DEFICIT, THAT MEANS WE'LL BE, UM, USING MORE OF OUR, OUR FUNDS.
SO WE'LL HAVE LESS FUNDS AVAILABLE TO EARN INTEREST.
SO WE'RE ACTUALLY PROJECTING A LITTLE OVER 200, OR EXCUSE ME, A $200,000 REDUCTION IN INTEREST INCOME FOR NEXT YEAR.
AND THEN THE SECOND ITEM THAT'S REALLY DRIVING THAT NUMBER DOWN IS WE WOULD NORMALLY RECEIVE $250,000 FROM THE SUCCESSOR AGENCY FOR ADMINISTRATIVE, UM, EXPENSES.
SO THAT WOULD COME INTO THE CITY AS REVENUE.
UM, THE OVERSIGHT BOARD IN THE PAST HAS SCRUTINIZED THAT WE ARE NOT REALLY ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE THE FULL $250,000.
SO WE'VE BUDGETED LESS THAN THE FULL AMOUNT AVAILABLE.
SO THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THAT'S REALLY, UM, DRIVING THAT NUMBER DOWN.
THE OTHER ITEM THAT YOU MAY SEE ON THERE IS FRANCHISE FEES.
IF YOU LOOK AT, UM, 2024, UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT 3 MILLION, BUT NOW, AND THEN YOU LOOK AT 23, IT'S TWO POINT ALMOST 5 MILLION.
UM, 2024, IT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF ANOMALY.
THE WHAT DROVE THE, THAT RATE UP OR THE REVENUE UP WAS FROM SDG E.
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AS YOU MAY NOT BELIEVE IT OR NOT, BUT SUPPOSEDLY ON OUR ELECTRIC BILLS AND OUR GAS BILLS, THERE'S TWO COMPONENTS.THERE'S A FIXED COST FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE, AND THEN THERE'S THE COMMODITY OF ACTUAL PRICE OF THE GAS AND ELECTRICITY.
DURING 2024, THE, THE PRICE OF GAS AND ELECTRICITY ROSE.
SO THE SDG E CHARGED THEIR CONSUMERS MORE, SO THEY COLLECTED MORE FRANCHISE FEES.
UM, THEY'RE SAYING THAT IN 25 IT ACTUALLY DROPPED, UM, AND IT'S GONNA STAY LOW.
UM, I DON'T SEE THAT ON MY BILL, BUT SUPPOSEDLY THAT'S THE, THE RATIONALE BEHIND, UM, A REDUCTION IN REVENUES FROM FRANCHISE FEES BECAUSE THE COMMODITY PRICES HAVE DECREASED.
UM, OTHER REVENUES, UH, REPRESENT ROUGHLY 6.9 MILLION OF TOTAL JOB FUND REVENUES.
UM, THIS COMPRISED, AGAIN, A TWO POINT, EXCUSE ME, 1.2 BILLION OF INTEREST INCOME.
UM, 900,000 FOR A COMBINATION OF BILLBOARD REVENUE SALE SALE TOWERS, UH, LAND, LAND RENTALS.
AND THEN, UM, WE'RE BUDGETING ROUGHLY 620,000 FOR FIRE REIMBURSEMENT, 1.4 MILLION FOR THE PORT AUTHORITY REIMBURSEMENT.
AND THEN, UM, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, HALF A MILLION DOLLARS FOR CANNABIS REVENUE FALLS INTO THAT CATEGORY AS WELL AS A FEW OTHER ITEMS ARE LUMPED INTO THAT TOTAL OTHER REVENUE CATEGORY.
LOOKING AT THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COIN HERE IN GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES, I HAVE THIS BROKEN DOWN BY, UM, OUR, OUR MAJOR TYPES.
AND THIS IS REALLY HOW WE SPEND OUR MONEY.
UM, ON THE FAR LEFT COLUMNS, WE HAVE WAGES AND BENEFITS, OPERATING AND MAINTENANCE COSTS, CAPITAL INTERNAL SERVICE FUNDS, AND OUR TRANSFERS.
AGAIN, THE GREEN COLUMN REPRESENTS THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S WAGES AND BENEFITS HAS CONTINUED TO INCREASE.
WE'RE ACTUALLY SHOWING A 4% INCREASE FOR NEXT YEAR.
UH, ONE OF THE ANOMALIES THAT YOU'LL SEE ON THIS SLIDE IS INTERNAL SERVICE FUNDS.
ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT'S SHOWING REASON IT'S SHOWING A CREDIT THERE IS THAT WE'VE CHANGED OUR METHODOLOGY ON HOW WE WILL ACCOUNT FOR OUR GENERAL LIABILITY INSURANCE.
AND I HAVE ANOTHER SLIDE THAT WILL SHOW A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, IN DETAIL.
IN THE PAST, THE INTERNAL SERVICE, WE HAVE A SEPARATE INTERNAL SERVICE FUND FOR OUR GENERAL LIABILITY AND WORKERS' COMP.
OUR WORKERS' COMP IS CALCULATED THROUGH OUR WAGES, WHICH IT'S AN EXPENSE ON THE GENERAL FUND.
THERE'S REVENUE ON THE INTERNAL SERVICE FUND.
AS FOR THAT PARTICULAR FUND, IN THE PAST WE HAD A SEPARATE CALCULATION THAT WE USED, UM, THAT WAS IN THE INTERNAL SERVICE CHARGES FOR THE GENERAL LIABILITY.
UM, THAT WAS BASED ON A DIFFERENT FORMULA.
UH, ONE OF THE FORMULAS THAT WAS IN THAT EQUATION WAS BASED ON HEAD COUNT.
SO DEPENDING ON HOW BIG A DEPARTMENT WAS AS FAR AS THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES THEY MAY HAVE BEEN CHARGED MORE OR LESS.
THE, OUR INSURANCE COMPANY CHARGES US BASED ON OUR OVERALL LABOR COST AND HOW MUCH WE PAY TO OUR EMPLOYEES.
SO OUR PREMIUMS FOR OUR GENERAL LIABILITY DOESN'T REALLY APPLIC, IT ISN'T REALLY APPLICABLE TO THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES.
IT'S APPLICABLE TO THE, THE AMOUNT OF WAGES THAT ARE PAID TO THE EMPLOYEES.
SO GOING FORWARD, THAT CALCULATION OF A TRANSFER FROM THE GENERAL FUND AS WELL AS OTHER FUNDS TO THE INTERNAL SERVICE FUND FOR THE GENERAL LIABILITY WILL BE BASED ON A PERCENT OF WAGES.
AND SO THAT WOULD BE BASED ON 12 CENTS OF SABLE WAGES PER EMPLOYEE.
SO THAT NUMBER IS NOW SETTLED IN THE LINE ITEM CALLED WAGES AND BENEFITS AND WILL NO LONGER BE IN THE GENERAL, UM, EXCUSE ME, IN THE INTERNAL SERVICE CHARGES.
AND THEN THE OTHER CATEGORY THAT IS SIGNIFICANTLY BIGGER THAN LAST YEAR IS TRANSFER OUT.
AND I HAVE A SLIDE THAT I'LL GO INTO A LITTLE MORE DETAIL OF THE ALL THOSE TRANSFERS OUT.
BUT AS WE'RE LOOKING RIGHT NOW, OUR REVENUES THAT WERE PROJECTED AGAINST OUR EXPENDITURES FOR NEXT YEAR, WE ARE LOOKING AT A DEFICIT OF 8.2 MILLION FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
HERE'S THE DETAIL BEHIND WHAT'S IN, UM, TRANSFERS OUT, UH, 4.8 MILLION OF TRANSFERS FOR TO THE POB.
THIS PREVIOUSLY WAS A PART OF WAGES AND BENEFITS AS WELL.
UM, WE ARE PULLING THAT OUT OF WAGES AND BENEFITS CATEGORY AND IT'LL BE IN TRANSFERS FROM NOW ON AND IT'LL BE EASIER FOR US TO ISOLATE, ISOLATE THAT AND REALLY, UM, SEE THOSE NUMBERS BETTER AS OPPOSED TO MIXING THEM IN WITH OUR SALARIES AND WAGES.
UH, WE ALSO HAVE TRANSFERS TO OUR VARIOUS OTHER FUNDS.
THESE ARE REPRESENT SUBSIDIES TO THE LIBRARY FUND, PART MAINTENANCE FUND, THE, THE NUTRITION FUND.
AND THEN FOR NEW FOR THIS YEAR, WE WE'LL HAVE A $1 MILLION TRANSFER TO OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND.
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IN OUR METHODOLOGY GOING FORWARD THAT WE WILL NO LONGER HAVE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS BEING FUNDED DIRECTLY IN THE GENERAL FUND GOING FORWARD.IT'LL BE A TRANSFER WHENEVER THE HOWEVER AMOUNT THAT WE WOULD NEED TO FUND CAPITAL PROJECTS WILL BE AN IMMEDIATE TRANSFER FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT FUND.
AND THAT REPRESENTS ROUGHLY, UM, 9.9 MILLION FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON, WE COVERED A LOT RIGHT THERE, BUT MAYBE THIS IS A GOOD TIME TO BREAK FOR A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
CAN WE GO BACK TO THAT, UM, INTERNAL SERVICE CHARGE, UH, CHANGE.
THERE'S A METHODOLOGY CHANGE THAT ISN'T ACTUALLY A, IT'S, IT'S NOT A SAVINGS.
IT'S SHOWING ON HERE AS IF WE ARE YOU'RE RIGHT.
SPENDING LESS ON THIS, BUT IT'S NOT A SAVINGS.
YOU WERE, YOU WERE ON THAT SLIP.
YEAH, SO I'M TALKING ABOUT THE, UM, YOU'RE RIGHT, I DUNNO IF YOU CAN SEE MINUS 23.
SEE THE MOUSE HERE? SO THIS NUMBER HERE, WE'RE SHOWING A CREDIT, THE CHARGE FOR GENERAL LIABILITY, WHICH I'LL HAVE ANOTHER SLIDE I'LL SHOW YOU, IS NOW GOING TO BE HOUSED IN THE WAGES AND BENEFITS CATEGORY.
SO ROUGHLY THIS SAVINGS HERE IS NOW UP IN, IN THE WAGES CATEGORY.
NOW IT'S NOT ANO ANOTHER ITEM TO MUDDY THE WATER, WHICH MAKES A LITTLE CONFUSING.
THE PENSION OBLIGATION BONDS, THE CALCULATION WAS TIED TO WAGES THAT WILL NO LONGER BE UP IN WAGES.
THAT IS DOWN IN, IN TRANSFERS OUT.
SO WE'RE MOVING, MOVING SOME METHODOLOGY AROUND, BUT IT'D BE EASIER IN THE FUTURE TO REALLY FOLLOW THIS.
UM, ONLY THIS YEAR BECAUSE IT, IT'S A LITTLE WACKY, BUT REALLY THIS CATEGORY, IF YOU LOOK AT THE FIRST COUPLE LINE ITEMS HERE, THIS REALLY, IF YOU ADD THAT ALL TOGETHER REALLY WASHES OUT.
AND WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS REALLY THE TOTAL OF THE TRANSFER OUT IS WHAT'S ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT'S REALLY DRIVING UP THE COST FOR NEXT YEAR.
I ALSO HAVE ANOTHER SLIDE THAT'LL GO INTO MORE DETAIL.
WHAT REALLY MAKES UP THIS 8.2 MILLION, UH, SOME PARTICULAR ITEMS THAT YOU'LL SEE THAT REALLY HONES IN ON WHY WE HAVE A DEFICIT FOR NEXT YEAR.
SO ON THE FY 23 AND FY 24, DO WE HAVE WHAT OUR BUDGETED AMOUNT WAS FOR THOSE YEARS SO THAT WE CAN COMPARE WHAT THE ACTUALS TO BUDGET WERE? AND THE REASON WHY I ASK, AND I DO WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO JEREMY FOR DOING A LOT OF RESEARCH AND POINTING THIS OUT TO US, BUT, SO MY CONCERN IS THAT FOR FY 25, WHAT WE HAVE BUDGETED FOR, WE BUDGET FOR 3.3 MILLION, BUT THE ACTUALS LIKE END UP BEING A LOT LESS THAN WHAT WE BUDGET FOR IN EXPENDITURES.
SO WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS THIS FY 25 PROJECTION OF 3.3 MILLION THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.
ARE WE REALLY GONNA MAKE THAT TARGET BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME VACANCIES.
WE HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME ADJUSTMENTS THAT WE'VE MADE AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, ARE THEY BEING REFLECTED IN THE, IN THE PROJECTION FOR THIS? LIKE WHEN WAS THAT PROJECTION FOR OUR FY 25 BUDGET LAST UPDATED THE, FOR FY 25, THE LAST TIME THAT BUDGET WAS UPDATED WAS AT MIDYEAR, WHICH WAS WHEN? THAT WAS LIKE IN MARCH.
SO DOES IT HAVE, DOES THIS 3.3 REFLECT VACANCIES? AND IS THIS A, A CURRENT REALISTIC PROJECTION OF WHAT WE, OF WHAT WE EXPECT TO, TO SPEND? BECAUSE WHEN I'M, I'M, I'M JUST QUESTIONING THE TREND HAS BEEN THAT WE HAVE THIS CONSERVATIVE BUDGET, BUT WHEN THE ACTUALS COME IN, THEN IT ENDS UP WE, OUR EXPENDITURES DON'T MATCH.
SO I AM LIKE, WE NEED TO BE CONSERVATIVE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE ALSO BEING REALISTIC ABOUT THE FY 25 AND THE FY 26 PROJECTIONS.
SO IN THE PAST WE DID BUDGET FOR CIP PROJECTS IN THE GENERAL FUND BECAUSE OF THE TIMING AND BECAUSE CIP PROJECTS TAKE TIME OVER SEVERAL PERIODS, SEVERAL PHYSICAL YEARS, UM, WE MAY BUDGET FOR THE ENTIRE AMOUNT OF THE CIP IN YEAR ONE, HOWEVER, WE MAY NOT SPEND ALL THAT FUNDS IN THAT FIRST YEAR.
SO THAT IS WHAT HAS IN THE PAST CAUSED A SURPLUS AT THE END OF THE YEAR.
FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE BUDGET FOR A CIP PROJECT OF $5 MILLION IN YEAR ONE, UM, WE MAY NOT SPEND THE FULL $5 MILLION IN YEAR ONE BECAUSE OF THE STARTUP COST AND TIMING.
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THOSE FUNDS WOULD BE SPENT OVER SEVERAL YEARS.BUT IN YEAR ONE, WE'RE WE'RE SHOWING THAT THE FULL AMOUNT WOULD BE SPENT IN, IN THE FIRST YEAR, NOT THE SECOND, THIRD AND FOURTH YEAR.
SO IS THAT FOR THE FY 25 BUDGET, THE 3.3 MILLION? THE CIP? NO.
UM, IN FY 25, IF YOU RECALL, DURING MIDYEAR WE REBOOT REDUCED CIP PROJECTS BY $2 MILLION.
ORIGINALLY THEY BUDGETED 3 MILLION.
AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, WE TOOK OUT 2 MILLION TO REFLECT ON WHAT WE REALLY NEEDED FOR THIS YEAR.
SO WHAT DID THAT DO TO OUR FY 25 NUMBERS? OR IS DID THAT? WELL, WE WERE SHOWING I THINK CLOSER TO A 6 MILLION, $7 MILLION DEFICIT.
AND SO NOW WE'VE FACTORED THAT IN.
SO OUR PROJECTED DEFICIT DECREASED.
UH, AND THEN OTHER QUESTION, UM, ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, UH, THE OTHER REVENUES, THE, UH, SLIDE BEFORE THAT MARK THIS WAY, WHETHER AGAIN THERE, CAN I ANSWER PART OF THAT OTHER QUESTION YOU HAD? SO THIS YEAR, AND BRUCE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT THIS YEAR WE'RE PLANNING ON OUR POSITIONS BEING FULL.
THEY'RE REFLECTED IN THE BUDGET.
WE DO HAVE SOME VACANCIES THERE.
WE WERE LOOKING NOT REALLY AN ANOMALY, BUT IN POLICE DEPARTMENT WHERE WE HAD SO MANY VACANCIES AT THE PATROL LEVEL.
NOW WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT ON BOARD.
UM, BUT AM I CORRECT IN SEEING BRUCE? THOSE ARE ALL FULL POSITIONS.
WE KNOW WE HAVE SOME OPEN OPENINGS RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME SAVINGS IN SOME OF THOSE POSITIONS.
UH, NOT ONLY BECAUSE OF THE FREEZE THAT WE HAVE GOING ON RIGHT NOW, BUT JUST THE, THE RAW TIMEFRAME FOR RECRUITING.
UM, BUT THAT IS BY NO MEANS GONNA BRIDGE A $8 MILLION DEFICIT GAP.
SO THAT'S MORE, MORE OF A MINOR, UH, WELL, I WON'T SAY MINOR, BUT IT IS A SAVINGS WHEN WE DON'T HAVE POSITIONS FULL, SO, OKAY.
UNDERSTOOD THAT, THAT'S HELPFUL.
UH, SO ON THE OTHER REVENUES, UH, UH, PIECE OF THAT, THE SLIDE BEFORE ON YEAH.
UM, THE 762,978 FOR INDIRECT COST RECOVERY THAT WE DID DISCUSS YESTERDAY, IS THIS THE FEE USER FEE UPDATE THAT WE DID? SO THIS IS NOT RELATED TO THE ACTUAL USER FEE.
PART OF THE, UH, THE PROCESS LAST NIGHT WAS OUR COST ALLOCATION PLAN.
SO WE ARE, WE WILL THEN CAME UP THE COST ALLOCATION PERCENTAGE THAT WE WOULD CHARGE FOR THE GENERAL FUND TO OTHER FUNDS.
FOR AN EXAMPLE, UM, ONE, ONE OF OUR ITEMS IS THAT THE SEWER FUND, SO ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS ARE ABSORBED IN THE GENERAL FUND.
WE ARE CHARGING THE SEWER FUND FOR THOSE ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS.
AND THAT PART OF THAT IS WITHIN THAT $762,000.
SO THAT WASN'T RELATED TO OUR USER FEE UPDATE THEN USER, IT WAS USER FEE WITH PART OF IT AND THEN A COST ALLOCATION PLAN AS WELL.
SO THE COST ALLOCATION PLAN THAT WE ADOPTED, THAT THE 762,000, UH, FIGURE I I SO IT'S NOT REFLECTED IN THAT THE, THE INDIRECT COST RECOVERY IT IS REFLECTED YES, IT IS.
SO FROM THE DECISION WE MADE LA LAST NIGHT, THAT IS PART OF THAT IS THE 762,000? YES.
SO THERE, THERE WAS A COST ALLOCATION, THEN THERE WAS THE USER FEES.
SO THIS IS NOT PART OF THE USER FEES ITSELF.
WELL, I SEE MR. NIETO BACK THERE 'CAUSE YOU BROUGHT UP THE COST RECOVERY AND WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE A FIGURE, I DON'T THINK WE HAD A SAVINGS FIGURE WHEN WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION LAST NIGHT.
SO THIS SEEMS TO BE PART OF THAT FIGURE.
NO QUESTIONS THROUGH THE CHAIR.
UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT OUR DIRECTOR HAS BEEN VERY KIND OF CONSERVATIVE IN THE OTHER REVENUES, BUT I'M UNDERSTANDING ALSO THAT BECAUSE OF ALL THE THINGS THAT WE ARE REVISITING RIGHT NOW, THIS WILL MOVE US WELL IN THE MONTHS TO COME.
UM, HERE WE'RE LOOKING AT THE, UM, GENERAL LIABILITY AND WORKERS' COMP FUND.
SO RIGHT NOW, THIS IS ONE FUND COMBINED.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE PREMIUMS FOR OUR GENERAL LIABILITY COMPARING TO THE 2025 TO 2026 IS GOING UP A MILLION DOLLARS.
THE CULMINATION OF THE WORKERS' COMP PREMIUM AND GENERAL LIABILITY PREMIUM AS WELL AS THE CLAIMS. AND THERE IS ONE EMPLOYEE FTE THAT'S CHARGED IN THAT FUND.
UM, TOTAL IS INCREASING 1.2 MILLION FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
AND THAT WILL HAVE A DIRECT IMPACT ON OUR, OUR OTHER COST TO THE GENERAL FUND
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INTERNAL SERVICE FUND.HERE'S THE, THE VARIOUS INTERNAL SERVICE FUNDS THAT WE HAVE.
WHAT WE BUDGETED FOR IN 25 COMPARED TO 26, IT'S INCREASING, UM, A TOTAL OF 840,000.
BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT GENERAL LIABILITY THAT IS A DIRECT IMPACT OF THE OTHER FUNDS INCREASING, THE PREMIUMS INCREASING.
SO THIS IS THE GENERAL FUND'S PROPORTION.
SO WE
BECAUSE OF THESE PREMIUMS HAVE INCREASED, THAT GETS PASSED ON TO OTHER FUNDS TO HELP SUPPORT THOSE PAYMENTS.
SO THE GENERAL FUND FLOWS MONEY OVER TO THE GENERAL LIABILITY INSURANCE INTERNAL SERVICE FUND TO PAY THOSE PREMIUMS BECAUSE THE GENERAL FUND, NORMAN CONTRIBUTES ABOUT 80, 80% OF THOSE COSTS ANYTIME THE COST WITHIN THE INTERNAL SERVICE FUNDS INCREASE, THAT HAS A DIRECT IMPACT TO THE GENERAL FUND.
IF WE COMPARE, UM, TRANSFERS FROM 2025 TO 2026, OUR TOTAL TRANSFERS, UM, THESE ARE REALLY SUBSIDIES THROUGH OTHER FUNDS.
OUR ELABORATE FUND PART MAINTENANCE AS WELL AS NUTRITION AND, UM, THE RETIREMENT FUND THAT SHOULD ACTUALLY SAY A RETIREMENT HEALTH FUND.
AND THAT IS INCREASING 1.4 MILLION, WHICH ALL THESE ARE ALL HAVE A, A DIRECT EFFECT ON THE JOB FUND.
SO THE QUESTION IS, IS WHY DO WE HAVE SUCH A BIG DEFICIT FOR NEXT YEAR? AND THIS IS REALLY KIND OF A 30,000 FOOT LEVEL VIEW OF WHAT'S REALLY HAPPENING.
AND, UM, IS THERE A WAY TO GO BACK TO THE FIRST SCREEN? YEAH.
OH NO, FIRST YEAH, IT WENT DOWN.
ONE THING THAT'S, THAT WE ARE HAVING, SO THIS IN GENERAL FUND REVENUES TRANSFERS IN, IN 2023, 2 MILLION OF THAT WAS COVID TRANSFER COVID MONEY ARPA IN 2024.
AGAIN, ANOTHER $2 MILLION OF ARPA TRANSFER IN 2025.
IN 2024, WE COLLECTED 75.3 MILLION IN 25, 71 0.1 MILLION.
WE HAVEN'T RECOVERED THAT REVENUE IN 2026, NO ARPA, WE STILL HAVE NOT RECOVERED THE SAME AMOUNT.
SO THAT IS WHY YOU'RE SEEING A DEFICIT.
WE HAVE NEVER RECOVERED FROM THE, THAT REVENUE THAT WAY WE WERE RECEIVING IN 2024 AND WE'RE STILL SPENDING AS IF WE'RE IN 2024.
SO WE'RE SPENDING AT A HIGHER RATE AND WE'RE JUST NOT COLLECTING ENOUGH TO COVER THOSE EXPENDITURES.
SO IT REALLY STARTS AS I SHOWED, UM, IN 2025, WE ARE NOT GETTING THE ARPA MONEY.
AND IN 2024 WE DID HAVE ARPA MONEY.
IN 2024, WE DID NOT HAVE A UAL PAYMENT, BUT IN 25 WE STARTED HAVING A UAL PAYMENT OF 1.2 MILLION TO THE GENERAL FUND.
SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE REALLY HAVING A DEFICIT FOR THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.
THAT CONTINUES INTO THE NEW FISCAL YEAR.
PROPOSED FOR 2026, WE HAVE A UAL PAYMENT OF ROUGHLY FOR THE GENERAL FUNDS PORTION OF IT IS 2.5 MILLION.
WE HAVE AN INCREASE IN THOSE SUBSIDIES TO OTHER FUNDS, 1.4 MILLION.
WE HAVE AN INCREASE INTO OUR INTERNAL SERVICE FUNDS OF 804 $40,000.
AND THEN AS YOU RECALL, WE OFFER COLA TO OUR EMPLOYEES STARTING JANUARY.
SO THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, THAT WAS FOR THREE BARGAINING UNITS.
NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT 2026, A FULL 12 MONTHS.
IT'S NOW DOUBLED FOR NEXT YEAR FOR THE FULL 12 MONTHS.
IN 2025 WHEN THE BUDGET WAS ADOPTED, THERE WAS, UM, A PROMISE THAT THERE COULD BE A SAVINGS REDUCTION, UM, OF ROUGHLY 1.2 MILLION.
IN 2026, AS YOU RECALL, THERE WAS THESE ADD-ON ENHANCEMENTS
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AND THEN CAME BACK AND SAID, WELL, WE WILL, WE'LL MAKE CUTS OTHER PLACES IN OUR BUDGET FOR 2025.WELL, WE DON'T HAVE THOSE CUTS OF REDUCTIONS IN 2026, SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE SEEING AN INCREASE.
SAME, SAME SPENDING HABITS IN 2025 ARE CARRYING IT OVER TO 2026.
THAT DEFICIT WOULD BE MUCH HIGHER.
BUT FORTUNATELY, OUR IN REVENUES FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR ARE INCREASING 1.7 MILLION, WHICH BRINGS IT DOWN TO 2.8 TOTAL.
SO IN A NUTSHELL, THE 30,000 FOOT LEVEL, THAT'S WHAT'S REALLY DRIVING UP THE COST OF OUR, UM, OUR DEFICIT FOR NEXT YEAR.
SO THE UAL PAYMENT, YOU KNOW, THAT IT IS WHAT IT IS.
WE, THERE'S NO WAY TO GET AROUND THAT.
AS FAR AS SOME OF THESE OTHER ITEMS AS WELL, OUR SUBSIDIES TO OUR OTHER FUNDS, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE MAY BE SOME METHODOLOGY WE COULD POSSIBLY REDUCE THOSE IN THE FUTURE, BUT RIGHT NOW THERE'S, THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE PLANNED.
WHEN I PRESENTED THE BUDGET, UM, SEVERAL WEEKS AGO, UH, THESE POSITIONS WERE NOT PART OF THE BUDGET AND THEY STILL ARE NOT IN THE CURRENT BUDGET.
SO THESE WOULD BE ADDITIONAL ASKS AT THIS TIME, WE ARE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS ARE ASKING FOR VARIOUS POSITIONS THROUGHOUT THE ORGANIZATION, LOOKING FOR, UM, FOUR CUSTODIAL PERSONNEL.
THESE, THESE POSITIONS ARE PAID FOR OUT OF FACILITY MAINTENANCE, UM, FUND, WHICH IS AN INTERNAL SERVICE FUND.
AS THE INTERNAL SERVICE FUNDS THOSE COST INCREASED, IT WOULD BE SUPPORTED BY 80% OF THE GENERAL FUND.
SO ANYTIME WE INCREASE ANY OF THE COST IN THE INTERNAL SERVICE FUNDS, IT HAS AN INDIRECT IMPACT TO THE GENERAL FUND OF ROUGHLY ABOUT 80%.
WE HAVE SEVERAL OTHER POSITIONS HERE, UH, MAINTENANCE WORKERS FOR THE SEWER DEPARTMENT.
THAT WOULD BE A DIRECT IMPACT TO THE SEWER SEWER FUND.
NO IMPACT TO THE GENERAL FUND.
AND THEN WE HAD VARIOUS OTHER, UM, PART-TIME POSITIONS THAT ARE BEING REQUESTED TO BE BROUGHT UP TO FULL-TIME, UM, CODE ENFORCEMENT AS WELL AS PARKING ENFORCEMENT, UM, AND SOME OTHER POSITIONS WITHIN C COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
AS WE CONTINUE OUR PRESENTATION ON LATER ON TONIGHT, EACH DEPARTMENT WILL, WILL SPEAK BRIEFLY ON THESE POSITIONS AND GIVE YOU MORE DETAIL BEHIND THE RATIONALE FOR THESE POSITIONS.
UH, HERE IS THE, UM, INFORMATION.
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT IT WOULD COST TO THE IMPACT TO THE GENERAL FUND, ROUGHLY $470,000 IMPACT.
UM, YOU CAN SEE VARIOUS POSITIONS.
SOME ARE MARGINALLY INCREASING BECAUSE THEY'RE BEING, UM, GOING FROM PART-TIME UP TO FULL-TIME.
HOWEVER, SOME OF THE POSITIONS ARE BRAND NEW POSITIONS THAT WOULD IMPACT THE GENERAL FUND.
I'VE SHOWN THIS BEFORE, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF A REMINDER OF OUR UUAL PAYMENT COMING UP.
IN A FUTURE FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR CITYWIDE, WE WILL BE REQUIRED TO PAY ROUGHLY $3 MILLION.
AND THEN GOING FORWARD IN 2027, WE WILL HAVE A PAYMENT OF ROUGHLY 4.4 MILLION, AND THEN IN 2028 ON 5.6 MILLION AND SO FORTH.
SO THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT TO THE GENERAL FUND GOING FORWARD IN THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS.
OUR RESERVE BALANCES, THESE ARE OUR BALANCES.
WHERE WE STAND IS, UM, RIGHT NOW THE BLUE COLUMN REPRESENTS OUR CURRENT BALANCE IN EACH ONE OF THESE RESERVES.
OUR TARGET IS LOCATED HERE IN THE MIDDLE.
AND THEN OUR, UM, OUR SHORTFALL, OR IN THIS CASE OUR UNASSIGNED IS ACTUALLY A, A SURPLUS AT THIS POINT.
WE ARE LOOKING AT, UM, IF WE WERE TO FUND ANY OF THESE ITEMS RIGHT NOW FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR, UM, IT WOULD COME FROM OUR UNFUNDED SIGNED BALANCE.
UM, AND I WOULD RECOMMEND IF WE WERE TO, UM, STRATEGIZE FOR FUTURE PERIODS, UM, IT'D BE PRUDENT TO PUT MONEY ASIDE IN OUR PENSION RETIREMENT FUND.
AS WE KNOW FROM THE PREVIOUS SCREEN, WE HAVE SUBSTANTIAL IMPACTS IN THE FUTURE.
AND RIGHT NOW, IF WE WERE TO FOLLOW OUR POLICY, IT WOULD STATE THAT WE SHOULD HAVE A TWO YEAR RESERVE WITHIN THAT FUND.
RIGHT NOW WE HAVE, UM, SEVEN, 7.5 MILLION IN THAT RESERVE.
UM, THIS POLICY STATES THAT WE SHOULD HAVE, AGAIN, TWO YEARS, WE'RE LOOKING AHEAD AT THE NEXT TWO YEARS, FISCAL YEAR 27 AND 28, AND THAT WOULD BE A TOTAL OF 10 MILLION.
SO AT, TO MAINTAIN OUR POLICY OR REQUEST A ONE POINT, EXCUSE ME, A 2.5 MILLION TRANSFER FROM OUR UNASSIGNED TO OUR GENERAL FUND, OR EXCUSE ME, TO THE PENSION FUND.
AND SO HOW WOULD THAT PLAY OUT FROM OUR AUDITED FINANCIAL STATEMENTS OF 2023? UM, WE HAD ROUGHLY 23 MILLION AND OUR UNASSIGNED
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AND OUR 2024 UNAUDITED FINANCIAL STATEMENTS.IT LOOKS LIKE RIGHT NOW WE'LL INCREASE OUR UNASSIGNED ROUGHLY 1.5 MILLION UP TO BRING A TOTAL TO 24.5 MILLION.
OUR PROJECTED DEFICIT FOR 2025, ROUGHLY 3.4 MILLION.
AND THEN OUR PROJECTED DEFICIT FOR 2026 IS 8.2.
THAT WOULD BRING OUR UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE BY THE END OF 2026 DOWN TO 12.9 MILLION.
IF WE WERE TO ACTUALLY SET ASIDE THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE PENSION TRUST FUND, UM, THAT WOULD BE A TRANSFER FROM THE UNASSIGNED TO THE PENSION TRUST FUND OF ROUGHLY 2.5 MILLION.
BRING OUR UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE BY THE END OF 2026 DOWN TO 10 MILLION.
AND OUR REQUIREMENT IS TO MAINTAIN 10 MILLION, EXCUSE ME, 10% OF OUR GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES.
SO OUR EXPENDITURES FOR FISCAL YEAR 26 RIGHT NOW IS ROUGHLY EIGHT 81 MILLION.
SO OUR REQUIREMENT TO HAVE A MINIMUM OF UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE WOULD BE 8 MILLION, UM, IN THAT FUND.
AND SO WE WOULD STILL BE, UM, WITHIN OUR POLICY.
UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M GLAD TO ENTERTAIN YOUR QUESTIONS NOW.
IF NOT, WE CAN GO INTO THE INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENT BUDGETS.
BRUCE, CAN YOU DO ME A FAVOR AND BOUNCE BACK TO SLIDES TO, UM, THE RESERVE BALANCES? I JUST WANT TO MAKE, I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE FOCUSING ON THE AREA THAT YOUR POLICY SAYS OF WHAT TO FUND.
UM, AND I THINK I WANT, I WANNA MAKE SURE I'M SAYING THIS RIGHT.
THE GREEN COLUMN WOULD BE INDICATING IF WE WERE TO FULLY, UM, FUND WHAT WE WERE, WHAT THE POLICY SAID.
IS THAT A, AM I SAYING THAT CORRECTLY? THAT'S, THAT'S CORRECT.
AND SO IF WE FULLY FUND WHAT A RESERVE POLICY SAYS, YOU WOULD HAVE ALL THOSE FUNDED AND YOU WOULD END UP WITH 9.5 MILLION.
AND, AND RIGHT NOW THEY'RE NOT CURRENTLY FUNDED THAT WAY.
WE EXPLAINED HOW THEY'RE SHORT, BUT I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S ALSO A WAY TO LOOK AT, UH, THERE'S TWO THINGS.
IT'S A WAY TO LOOK AT THIS AND WHERE, WHERE YOUR POLICY MEETS THAT STANDARD IF WE WERE TO GET THAT DIRECTION FROM YOU.
AND THE OTHER QUESTION I THINK IS, UM, ALWAYS OUT THERE IS, OKAY, WELL WHEN DO YOU PULL THE TRIGGER TO USE THOSE RESERVES? AND I THINK THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE THERE FOR DIFFERENT REASONS AND UM, CLEARLY IN THE UAL WE HAVE A REASON, BUT THEN WE'RE ALSO PROJECTING A MUCH MORE SERIOUS SITUATION GOING OUT.
SO I THINK THAT'S JUST, THAT'S A GOOD DISCUSSION THAT YOU GUYS COULD HAVE.
AND, AND, UH, WHEN YOU CHOOSE TO, UH, CHAIR YES, CAN YOU PLEASE GO BACK TO THE ADDITIONAL STAFFING REQUEST PAGE, PLEASE? I THINK THAT'S PAGE SIX ON MY PAPERWORK.
JUST FOLLOWING THROUGH WITH, UH, FROM THE, UH, LAST YEAR'S DIRECTION, I STILL DON'T SEE THOSE POSITIONS THAT WERE SUPPOSED TO BE HERE AND SEE NEW POSITIONS THAT ARE BEING FULFILLED.
SO WHAT HAPPENED? UM, I STILL DON'T SEE THE MISSING POLICE OFFICERS.
I STILL DON'T SEE THE TWO SUPERVISORS FOR COMMUNITY SERVICES, AND I DON'T SEE THE PUBLIC WORK STAFF THAT WE SAID WE NEED UP WITH THAT.
SO, UM, WAS IT I SEE TRANSFER OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT SPECIALIST TO CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.
WE'RE, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, OUR COMMUNITY SERVICES, OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT IS NOT SUFFICIENT.
UM, OKAY, SO LET ME TRY TO TAKE A STAB AT THAT.
BUT I'M ALSO GONNA NEED TO, UH, PUSH THAT OUT TO A COUPLE OTHER PEOPLE.
SO IN SOME CASES, THOSE POSITIONS COULD BE IN THE BUDGET, SO THAT'S WHY THEY MAY NOT BE SHOWING UP HERE.
UH, BUT THEY ARE NOT FILLED EITHER BECAUSE OF A FREEZE OR FOR SOME OTHER REASON.
BUT AS I'M SITTING HERE, I NEED TO HAVE THAT CONFIRMED.
AND IF WE CAN'T CONFIRM THAT TONIGHT, UH, BUT THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.
I WAS FOCUSED ON THE SUPERVISORS.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS I, I THOUGHT THE SUPERVISORS THAT I'M LOOKING TOWARDS, UH, COMMUNITY SERVICES, THERE YOU GO.
AND I'M BOUNCING BACK AND FORTH.
UM, IF YOU GUYS FUNDED THE POSITIONS, OKAY.
WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN SAYING YOU WANT THE POSITIONS AND YOU ACTUALLY FUNDED THOSE POSITIONS, THEY SHOULD BE SITTING IN THE BUDGETS
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FOR THOSE DEPARTMENTS.NOW, WHETHER OR NOT, UM, WE FILLED THOSE POSITIONS IS A, IS ANOTHER ISSUE.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE PREPARED TO ANSWER THAT RIGHT NOW, BUT WE CAN GET THAT ANSWER BEFORE YOU LEAVE TONIGHT.
I THINK IT'S NOT A MATTER OF WANT, IT'S A MATTER OF NEEDS.
SO IF, AS I'M UNDERSTANDING THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION IS THAT THOSE WERE THINGS THAT WE PUT IN THE BUDGET LAST YEAR, BUT THEY HAVE NOT BEEN FILLED YET.
AND THEN THESE WOULD BE ADDITIONAL STAFFING ON TOP OF THAT? YEAH.
THE THESE ARE, UM, TO SOME EXTENT, AND SOME OF THESE ARE PROMOTIONS, SO PEOPLE ARE IN THE BUDGET, BUT THEY'RE, THEIR PROMOTION ISN'T, UM, SPECIFIC TO WHICH WE'LL GO THROUGH THESE WHEN YOU GO THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT'S, UH, DESCRIPTIONS.
BUT BASICALLY THERE'S $704,000 ADDITIONAL WOULD BE IN A THAT WE'D BE, WE, IF WE WAS TO APPROVE ALL OF THIS WOULD BE IN ADDITION TO THE ONES THAT WE DID LAST YEAR THAT WE HAVEN'T FILLED YET.
I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT IN WRITING.
WELL, THE 700 FOURS RIGHT THERE, RIGHT'S IN WRITING, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL GET YOU THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION WITH THE POSITIONS THAT WE SAID WE WERE GONNA FILL FIRST.
SO CAN I ASK A FOLLOW UP QUESTION TO THAT? YES.
BECAUSE I, I THINK PART OF THE CONFUSION HERE, UM, AND I DON'T MEAN TO SPEAK FOR, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER YAMADI, BUT PART OF MY CONFUSION IS WE HAD APPROVED, LET'S SAY, THESE TWO SUPERVISOR POSITIONS FOR COMMUNITY SERVICES.
AND THEN SOMETIME DOWN THE LINE, WE ENDED UP FINDING OUT, OH, IN FACT THEY WEREN'T BUDGETED.
SO THEN I THINK MAYBE THAT IS WHERE THE QUESTION IS DIRECTED, IS WHAT IS THE STATUS OF THOSE TWO SUPERVISOR POSITIONS FOR COMMUNITY SERVICES? THE POSITIONS THEMSELVES WERE APPROVED, THEN WE HEARD THEY'RE NOT BUDGETED.
ARE THEY IN FACT BUDGETED OR ARE THEY ON THIS LIST, OR WHERE ARE THEY? SO, UM, MY RECOLLECTION FROM ASKING THE QUESTION THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THAT THE ACTION, AND WE CAN PULL THAT UP AND HAVE IT FOR YOU TONIGHT.
I'LL HAVE SOMEONE GO BACK AND LOOK AT IT.
UH, BUT MY RECOLLECTION, AND IF SOMEONE HAS A BETTER ONE, YOU CAN LET ME KNOW ON STAFF, IS THAT THAT CAME WITH AN ASSESSMENT THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO CLARIFY THOSE TWO POSITIONS NEED.
AND, UM, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT ASSESSMENT CAME BACK TO COUNCIL.
AND, UM, FRANKLY, I THINK WE'RE STILL ASSESSING THAT AS WELL AS THE WHOLE PROGRAM.
SO WE, WE HAVE A PROGRAM, UH, WITHOUT A DIRECTOR.
WE HAVE TWO, YOU KNOW, INTERIM DIRECTORS.
UM, SO WE'RE GOING THROUGH A LOT OF CHANGES IN THAT IN TERMS OF LOOKING AT WHAT'S GOING ON, UH, SOME OF WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR WHEN THEY GIVE THEIR BUDGET PRESENTATION.
BUT, UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT YOU DIDN'T UNILATERALLY GIVE APPROVAL FOR THOSE THAT FUND THOSE POSITIONS.
WHAT YOU DID IS YOU GAVE YOUR APPROVAL WITH THE DIRECTION TO DO AN ASSESSMENT AND THEN COME BACK.
MY UNDERSTANDING TO COME BACK TO YOU.
I'M NOT AWARE THAT ANYBODY'S COME BACK TO YOU OR NOT.
I'M JUST TELLING YOU THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S BEEN COMMUNICATED TO ME, THAT THAT'S FAIR.
BUT WHAT I THINK WHAT I'M, WHAT I THINK YOU'RE GETTING AT IS IN FACT THEY'RE STILL NOT BUDGETED AS I'M SITTING HERE.
I, I I DON'T HAVE THAT ANSWER, MA'AM.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA TRY TO GET FOR YOU THROUGH THE CHAIR.
JUST MA'AM, WE JUST, MA'AM, WE JUST WANTED, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I THINK MAYBE YOU GET THOSE CLARIFICATIONS, ICM BECAUSE I KNOW THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU WERE NOT HERE WHEN THAT HAPPENED BECAUSE WE HAVE SEEN POSITIONS THAT WERE FILLED IN THE MANAGEMENT POSITIONS THAT WERE NOT IN THOSE DIRECTIONS, THAT WAS, THAT HAPPENED.
SO BEFORE WE SPEAK MORE HERE, I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO CHECK ON THAT FIRST.
I, I ALSO ECHO THE SENTIMENTS OF MY COLLEAGUES AND, AND THERE IS DEEP SEATED FRUSTRATION BECAUSE IT FEELS LIKE THE COUNCIL HAS PROVIDED DIRECTION AND THEN, AND THEN FOR SOME REASON OR ANOTHER, IT JUST HASN'T OCCURRED.
UM, IF YOU GIVE US DIRECTION, WE NEED TO IMPLEMENT IT.
AND, UM, MOST SPECIALIST, IT CAME FROM THIS SIZE.
AND, AND, AND SPECIFIC TO THE TWO SUPERVISOR POSITIONS, AND I THINK THE REASON, THE REASON IT'S SO IMPORTANT IS BECAUSE WE HAD A ROBUST CONVERSATION ABOUT INVESTING IN OUR COMMUNITY.
I BELIEVE THE FIGURE WAS SOMETHING LIKE 250,000 FOR THE LAST TWO FISCAL YEARS TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR KIDS, ESPECIALLY IN THE SUMMERTIME, HAVE PROGRAMMING TO STAY BUSY, TO STAY ACTIVE.
WE DID, UH, OUR DUE DILIGENCE IN REOPENING CAMACHO GYM.
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INTENT IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE OFFER SERVICES.AND IT FEELS LIKE THE CURRENT STAFF HAS ASSUMED BECAUSE THE DIRECTION OF THE COUNCIL HAS BEEN, UM, UH, TO EXPAND THE PROGRAMMING.
SO THEY'VE ASSUMED MORE PROGRAMMING WITHOUT THE SUPPORT OF ADDITIONAL STAFF.
AND I THINK THAT DOES A DISSERVICE FOR OUR OWN STAFF AND MORE IMPORTANTLY FOR THE COMMUNITY, RIGHT? SO, SO I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE SEATED FRUSTRATION IS AT AND, UM, WELCOME.
BUT, BUT, BUT, BUT AT LEAST ON MY PART, I WOULD LOVE FOR THIS ISSUE IN PARTICULAR TO BE ADDRESSED BECAUSE THE SUMMER'S HERE AND, AND I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT PROGRAMMING THAT HAS TO BE MANAGED BY THE CITY.
UM, AND, AND IT'S A GOOD THING, BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE POSITIONS ARE FILLED IMMEDIATELY.
UM, I DO HAVE ANOTHER, UH, QUESTION, BY THE WAY, CAN WE GO TO THE RESERVE BALANCES REALLY QUICK? UH, PAGE 14, I BELIEVE.
AND JUST HELP ME UNDERSTAND THIS.
PAGE SEVEN, UH, OH SEVEN 14 ON THE SLIDE.
SO WHEN DO WE DISCUSS TO, UM, REFILL THE POSITIONS TO THE TARGETED AMOUNT? I DON'T REMEMBER HAVING THAT DISCUSSION OVER THE LAST YEAR IN CHANGE.
DO YOU NEED COUNCIL AUTHORITY OR DIRECTION TO DO THAT, OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS AUTOMATICALLY? THE POLICIES STATES BASICALLY THAT WHEN THERE'S EVER SURPLUS FUNDS IN THE UNASSIGNED, SO ABOVE THE, THE 10% THEN AT THAT TIME WOULD TRIGGER FILLING UP ANY DEFICITS IN THE OTHER FUNDS.
BUT IT HAD TO BE A DIRECTION OF CITY COUNCIL.
AND, AND WHEN DOES THAT HAPPEN? IDEALLY, IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE SOMETIME AROUND THE BUDGET TIME.
I MEAN, IT COULD BE DONE ANYTIME THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, BUT RIGHT NOW, IT WOULD BE AN OPTIMAL TIME TO, TO REALLY ANALYZE THAT AND DECIDE IF YOU WANTED TO MOVE THOSE FUNDS INTO, UM, ONE OF THE OTHER CATEGORIES.
IN OTHER WORDS, TAKE MONEY FROM UNASSIGNED AND MOVE IT UP TO ONE OF THE RESERVES.
BUT, BUT IT'S BY THEIR DIRECT, IT'S BY YOUR DIRECTION.
PROBABLY NEED THE DIRECTION OF THE COUNCIL IN ORDER TO DO THAT, BUT YOU ALL NEED TO PRESENT IT TO US.
SO TONIGHT WOULD BE A GOOD TIME FOR YOU TO GIVE US SOME DIRECTION IN THAT AREA.
UM, DO ANY OF THOSE RESERVE FUNDS? ARE, ARE WE, UM, IS THERE A STATE MANDATE OR, OR A CITY MANDATE TO FOLLOW THESE SPECIFIC TARGETED AMOUNTS? THESE ARE POLICIES THAT HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED BY THE CITY ITSELF.
UM, SO THE OP E TRUST RESERVE, AS WELL AS THE PENSION TRUST RESERVE, THOSE ARE SET ASIDE IN, IN A TRUST FUND.
AND SO THEY CANNOT BE USED FOR ANY OTHER ITEM EXCEPT FOR THOSE SPECIFIC EXPENDITURES.
HOWEVER, THE FACILITY MAINTENANCE RESERVE AS WELL AS THE ECONOMIC CONTINGENCY RESERVE, UM, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE IDEALLY DESIGNED FOR A CONTINGENCY OF EMERGENCY WITHIN THE CITY.
UM, BUT THOSE BALANCES COULD BE, UM, ADJUSTED UPWARD OR DOWNWARD.
LET ME, LET ME ADD TO THAT BECAUSE, UM, IF YOU WERE TO GO OUT INTO THE BOND MARKET AND TRY TO GET FINANCING, SO THESE ARE BEST, I WOULD SAY, YOU'RE KIND OF ON THE MIDDLE ON THE BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES.
UH, IF YOU WERE TO GO OUT TRYING TO GET FINANCING AND YOU DIDN'T HAVE THESE KIND OF RESERVES SET UP, THEN YOUR RISK ASSESSMENT IS GONNA BE A LOT HIGHER AND YOU MAY OR MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GET FINANCING.
AND SO THIS, UH, BRUCE IS TOTALLY RIGHT ON SPOT, BUT AGAIN, IF YOU WERE LOOKING TO DO THAT AND WE COULD BE LOOKING TO DO THAT, UM, I THINK THAT'S A A POINT, A POINT THAT WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND.
HAVING GOOD HEALTHY RESERVES IN THESE KIND OF CATEGORIES HERE, UM, IS GONNA HELP US.
AND INEVITABLY, UNLESS YOU'RE GONNA USE YOUR MONEY DIRECTLY TO PURCHASE PROPERTY, UM, IF YOU'RE NOT, THEN WE NEED TO BE THINKING THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BE LOOKING FINANCIALLY GOOD IN OUR RESERVES.
AND, AND JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY ON THE FINANCING, HOW OFTEN DO WE DO THAT? WELL, BRUCE AND I
THE PRIOR BOND ISSUE, I BELIEVE IT WAS LIKE AROUND 2017.
UM, THAT WAS, IF YOU'RE LOOKING TO PURCHASE, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, THE, UM, UH, GATEWAY, UH, OR THE BAY ROAD PROJECT, WHAT WHATEVER WE'RE CALLING THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD WANT TO LOOK AT FINANCING THAT POTENTIALLY AND SPREADING THAT RISK OUT.
SO THAT IS ONE THAT'S CURRENT THAT WE'RE EVALUATING, MAKES, MAKES, UH, TOTAL SENSE.
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MORE RESERVES WE HAVE, THE MORE AND, AND THE BETTER RATES WE CAN GET AS WE ABSOLUTELY, UH, BOND OUT FOR ADDITIONAL PROJECTS.UM, I, I, I GUESS, I GUESS THE FRUSTRATION I HAVE WITH THIS PARTICULAR, UM, BALANCE SHEET IS THAT, UM, IT IS THE SAME, I'VE HEARD THE SAME ARGUMENT NOW FOR 10 YEARS IN THE CITY WHERE WE DON'T HAVE MONEY AND WE ANTICIPATE A BUDGET DEFICIT OF 3, 4, 5, $8 MILLION.
MEANWHILE, FOLKS LOOK AT THIS AND SAY, WELL, THERE'S A RESERVE BALANCE OF $51 MILLION, TARGETED AMOUNT OF 41 MILLION, AND THE SHORTFALL IS STILL OVER 9 MILLION.
AND THESE ARE PRETTY HEALTHY LEVELS OF RESERVES.
SO I UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE TO BE FISCALLY PRUDENT, BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT OUR COMMUNITY NEEDS SERVICES, AND IN ORDER TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES, WE NEED TO SUPPORT OUR STAFF.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE TO PROVIDE THEM THE BENEFITS THAT ARE NEEDED IN ORDER TO PROVIDE GOOD SERVICES FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
SO IT'S JUST A OBSERVATION AT THIS MOMENT.
UM, YOU KNOW, I JUST READ ABOUT, UH, CARLSBAD PASSING THEIR YEARLY BUDGET AND THEY WENT FROM 55% RESERVES TO 61%, I BELIEVE IT WAS LAST YEAR, UH, LAST WEEK.
BUT WHAT IS OUR TOTAL RESERVE BALANCE LOOKING AT THAT IN COMPARISON TO OUR GENERAL FUND COMPARED TO OUR TOTAL GENERAL FUND? YEAH, WELL, OUR, OUR TARGET THERE IS ROUGHLY 42 MILLION, AND OUR GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES ARE 81 MILLION.
SO, SO I, I, I ABSOLUTELY AGREE THAT WE MUST BE FISCALLY PRUDENT, BUT I ALSO HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT TO PUSH AND TO STRESS THE NEED TO HAVE THE SERVICES THAT OUR COMMUNITY DESPERATELY NEEDS, AND THAT MEANS SUPPORTING OUR EMPLOYEES, IT MEANS INVESTING IN OUR FUTURE, IT MEANS MAKING SURE THAT FUTURE PROJECTS GET THE SUPPORT THAT WE NEED, UM, IN ORDER TO INVEST INTO, BRING IN ADDITIONAL REVENUE.
BUT, BUT I, I, I JUST, I'M EXCEEDINGLY FRUSTRATED AT THE CONTINUED CONVERSATION AROUND JUST, UM, UH, CUTTING, CUTTING BECAUSE WE ARE PROJECTED TO BE OVER, AND I UNDERSTAND THE FRUSTRATION OF MANY WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS AND LOOK AT THE RESERVE BALANCES THAT ARE, THAT ARE A BIT HEALTHY.
UM, SO JUST SOME OBSERVATIONS AND COMMENTS MM-HMM
UH, BUT I DO GOTTA SAY, I, I WAS VERY REFRESHED A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, OR ABOUT A MONTH AGO DURING THE LAST PRESENTATION WHEN WE WERE STARTING TO DISCUSS HOW TO BRING IN ADDITIONAL REVENUE, HOW TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE NEW PROGRAMS. SO IT'S CERTAINLY A CONVERSATION THAT I THINK WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO HAVE IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN OUR HEALTHY BALANCES AND AT THE SAME TIME SUPPORT OUR WORKERS TO PROVIDE THE BEST SERVICES FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
LET ME SEE IF I UNDERSTAND THIS.
SO THAT WE'RE, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS, THIS DIAGRAM, AND SO CURRENTLY WE HAVE A SHORTFALL IN THOSE RESERVES OF FIVE AND A HALF OR NINE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS? NO, NO, NOT REALLY.
SO THE, THE GREEN COLUMN HERE AT THE TOP, SO THE O OPED IS SHORT, UM, 177,000, THE PENSION LIABILITY IS SHORT, UM, 2.5 MILLION, AND THEN THE CONTINGENCY WOULD BE 3.4 MILLION.
HOWEVER, WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, 24 ROUGHLY, WE'RE ESTIMATING 24 MILLION IN UNASSIGNED.
SO IF WE HAVE THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT OF 8.1 MILLION, THAT MEANS WE'D HAVE 16 AVAILABLE THAT COULD BE USED TO FUND THESE OTHER CATEGORIES.
SO, AND IF WE DO THAT, OKAY, SO WE HAVE 16 MILLION TO FUND THE OTHER, TO BRING THEM ALL UP TO WHERE THEY, WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS OUR, JUST OUR TARGET.
AND THAT WOULD LEAD YOU WITH THAT.
SO IF WE DO THAT AND, AND WE ARE SHORT IN THOSE AREAS, 6.9 MILLION, SO SAVE $7 MILLION, THAT TAKES US DOWN TO ABOUT NINE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS FROM THAT 16 MM-HMM
AND HOW MUCH OUT OF THAT UNDESIGNATED FUND BALANCE WILL WE, UH, DO WE HAVE SCHEDULED RIGHT NOW TO USE IN THIS BUDGET? AND THAT'S BEFORE ANY LABOR NEGOTIATIONS OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT WHICH STILL HAS TO BE FACTORED, FACTORED ON TOP OF THIS.
RIGHT? SO NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET IS PROPOSED TO BE A DEFICIT OF 8.2 MILLION.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, IF WE WAS TO DO THAT WITHOUT ANY OTHER INCREASES IN EXPENDITURES FOR THIS NEXT YEAR, WE HAVE NOW TAKEN OUR UNAC SIDE FUND BALANCE DOWN TO THE TARGET IF WE WAS TO USE THOSE FUNDS TO BRING OUR UP TO TARGET.
SO WE WOULD JUST BE AT TARGET AT THAT POINT.
THE OTHER PROBLEM IS, AND I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WE NEED MONEY TO DO THESE SERVICES, BUT SERVICES ARE ONGOING EXPENSE.
THIS IS ONE TIME MONEY, THIS MONEY DOES NOT, WE DON'T GET THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY EVERY YEAR IN, IN THE, IN THE RESERVES.
WE DON'T GET ADDITIONAL, WE DON'T GET THAT MONEY AGAIN.
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SO IT IS THERE AS RESERVES.SO WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL AS WE'RE USING ONE TIME MONEY.
THIS IS WHEN THE ARPA PROBLEM COMES IN AND THINGS ALONG THIS SLIDE.
YOU GET ONE TIME MONEY AND YOU START THINKING THAT THIS IS GONNA BE GREAT FOR PROGRAMMING AND, AND THEREFORE YOU GET AN EXPENSE WITHOUT A REVENUE SOURCE.
THAT'S MY CONCERN WITH LOOKING AT THE RESERVES OVERLOOKING AT THEM BECAUSE WE COULD, THIS YEAR ALONE, WE COULD TAKE IT RIGHT DOWN TO OUR TARGET LEVEL ONLY.
AND AFTER THAT, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO START EATING INTO OUR TARGETS JUST TO HAVE OPERATING MONEY.
AND THAT'S NOT WHAT ONE TIME MONEY IS MADE, IS NOT MADE FOR OPERATING EXPENSE.
AND SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S, THAT'S THE CONCERN I HAVE THROUGH THE CHAIR.
I THINK YOU, IMAN, I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT MAYBE WE DON'T KNOW YET, RIGHT? UM, THROUGH THE 12 MONTHS THAT WE HAVE IN THIS BUDGET CYCLE, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN ALL THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING TO INCREASE THE REVENUE, UM, GENERATING PROCESSES, SERVICES, YOU SAID SERVICES CONTINUE.
THE ONLY ONE TIME THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THERE IS THE ARPA FUNDS, BUT THE REVENUE GENERATED IN THE CITY IS CONTINUOUS TOO, BECAUSE WE CANNOT SERVICE WITHOUT THE CONTINUOUS REVENUE THAT WE ARE RECEIVING.
SO WE GOTTA THINK, WE GOTTA WORK HERE WITH LIKE WHAT THE DIRECTION OR, OR THE GUIDANCE FROM OUR CITY MANAGER TO THINK WITH THE, WITH THE DIRECTORS TO THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, AND GOING AFTER THOSE REVENUE GENERATING, UM, THAT WILL SERVICE, THAT WILL, THAT WILL, UM, YOU AND PAY FOR THE SERVICES THAT WE ARE PROVIDING.
SO I, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE GONNA DIP INTO THAT RIGHT AWAY BECAUSE WE'RE VERY, VERY NEW IN OUR BUDGET CYCLE.
I'M LOOKING AT OUR FINANCE DIRECTORS AND YES, WE ARE GOING TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.
AND SO, AND SO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN THIS IS WHAT WE DO COLLECTIVELY AS LEADERS OF THIS, OF THIS, UM, MUNICIPAL OF, OF THE CITY THAT YES, WE HAVE SERVICES THAT WE HAVE TO PAY, SO LET'S CONTINUE TO GENERATE THOSE FUNDS IN ORDER FOR US TO DELIVER THOSE SERVICES.
THEY ARE NOT ONE-TIME MONEY, MR. MAYOR, THE ONLY ONE TIME MONEY THERE IS THAT GRANT ARPA FUND, IT'S 2 MILLION.
WELL, NO, OUR RESERVES ARE ONE TIME MONEY.
IN OTHER WORDS, SIR, CONTINUES TO REPLENISH MR. MAYOR ONLY IF YOU'RE PUTTING NEW MONEY IN.
BUT IF YOU ARE TAKING OUT SOMEWHERE TO EIGHT TO $10 MILLION A YEAR OUT OF THEM AND YOU ARE NOT CREATING EIGHT TO $10 MILLION OF NEW REVENUE SURE.
AND THERE'S NO EIGHT TO $10 MILLION OF REVENUE IN ANY OF OUR IDEAS THAT WE HAVE, THEN THAT'S A CHALLENGE TO YOU, RIGHT, MR. MAYOR? UH, WELL, NO, I, I DON'T, YES, YOU GOTTA TAKE IT.
THIS A CHALLENGE FOR ALL OF US HERE.
WELL THAT'S, THAT'S PETER PAN AND YOU KNOW, JUST SAYING LET LET IT, YOU KNOW, WE, THE TINKERBELL CAN FLY TYPE OF THING.
WELL, I MEAN, IF I CAN, ALRIGHT.
OH, SORRY, DID YOU WANNA ADD TO THAT? 'CAUSE I'M GONNA SWITCH TOPICS.
OH, WELL I, I WASN'T GONNA ADD TO THAT, BUT, UM, I WAS GONNA SAY THAT IN YOUR WORKBOOKS, AND I THINK IT'S ON PAGE ONE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE OUR, OUR FISCAL ANALYSIS SHEET.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE, UM, OUR FUND BALANCE PROJECTED AT THE END OF THE YEAR IS 168 MILLION.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE ESSENTIALLY $142 MILLION MUNICIPAL CORPORATION.
YOU'RE ONLY LOOKING AT THE GENERAL FUND, RIGHT? THOSE RESERVES ARE ONLY GEARED TOWARDS THE GENERAL FUND.
YOU HAVE A LOT OF OTHER PROGRAMS THAT ARE GOING ON, SOME OF WHICH HAVE THEIR BUILT-IN RESERVES LIKE WASTEWATER, BUT YOU HAVE OTHER, YOU HAVE FUNDS THAT DON'T HAVE A BUILT-IN RESERVE.
SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT YOU, YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU'RE LOOKING SPECIFICALLY AT THE GENERAL FUND, YOU HAVE TO REALIZE YOU HAVE $60 MILLION OF OTHER COMMITMENTS THAT ARE GOING ON IN THESE OTHER FUNDS.
ONLY A FEW OF WHICH HAVE RESERVES.
AND, UM, AND SO THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT PAGE, YOU'LL SEE REVENUE COMING IN IS 134 MILLION.
IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S NOT 142 MILLION, WHICH IS WHAT'S GOING OUT THE DOOR.
AND I THINK THAT'S THE PART WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO, YES, WE CAME UP WITH A LOT OF REVENUE IDEAS.
UM, MANY OF THOSE REVENUE IDEAS ARE NOT SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH.
UM, THE BIGGER REVENUE IDEAS REALLY COME DOWN TO, AGAIN, REVENUE IDEAS, UH, COME DOWN TO WHAT WE CAN DO IN THE AREAS OF SOME OF THOSE BIGGER ITEMS THAT ARE CONSIDERED TAXES.
UM, THE DEEL, YEAH, THE DEVELOPMENT SIDE OF THIS IS, UM, A PROCESS THAT'S GONNA TAKE SEVERAL YEARS, AND THAT'S ASSUMING THAT YOU CAN ATTRACT DEVELOPMENT
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TO DO WHAT YOU WANT IT TO DO.SO WE'RE, WE'RE WAVING THE FLAG AND I THINK EVERYBODY'S HEARING IT.
AND, UM, THE DECISIONS THAT YOU MAKE THIS YEAR, NEXT YEAR, UM, IN THIS SITUATION ARE GONNA PLAY OUT HOW THINGS ARE GONNA BE IN YEAR THREE AND FOUR.
AND, UH, HOPEFULLY, HOPEFULLY AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE CAN DO SOME AGGRESSIVE CREATIVE THINGS.
BUT THIS IS A, THIS IS NOT, THIS PAGE IS NOT THE PERFECT EXAMPLE OF HOW TO GAUGE WHERE WE ARE FINANCIALLY, BUT IT IS OUR IT RESERVE AND YOU'RE ASKING GOOD QUESTIONS ABOUT IT.
UH, I BELIEVE I HAVE A QUESTION.
UM, WE, THERE'S 78 PAGES ON THIS, UH, DECK AND WE ARE ON PAGE 14, I GUESS.
SO JUST FYI, UM, MY QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH, UM, PAGE 13, THE OTHER PAGES
UM, MY QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH, AND I, I DON'T, I DON'T WANNA GET DEEP INTO THIS, FIRST OF ALL, 'CAUSE I, IT, YOU KNOW, COULD EASILY BE DOOM AND GLOOM TRYING TO PROJECT THE FUTURE BASED ON, YOU KNOW, THE CRAZINESS THAT WE HEAR RIGHT NOW REGARDING MARKET PROJECTIONS AND THE EFFECT THAT TARIFFS WILL HAVE AND THIS AND THAT.
NOBODY KNOWS THE ANSWERS TO THOSE YET.
WHAT A VERY SIMPLE QUESTION I WANNA UNDERSTAND IS ON PAGE 13, WHICH IS THE CALPERS UAL PROJECTIONS, THESE PROJECTIONS ARE BASED ON THE MARKET, RIGHT? THE, THE MONEY THAT WE SEND TO CALPERS THEN GETS INVESTED AND IF THE MARKET TANKS, THEN OUR UAL PROJECTIONS ARE AFFECTED.
SO WHAT I WANNA UNDERSTAND IS WE'RE PROJECTING HERE THROUGH 2031, BASED ON WHAT METHODOLOGY, DOES ANY OF THIS INCLUDE SOME OF THE ECONOMIC, UH, INSTABILITY THAT'S HAPPENING NATIONWIDE? NO, THE, THESE NUMBERS COME FROM CALPERS.
THEIR ACTUARY EVALUATIONS ARE ACTUALLY A TWO YEAR DELAY.
SO WE WILL GET NEW UPDATED NUMBERS BY, BY END OF AUGUST OF THIS YEAR, SO THAT THOSE NUMBERS COULD, UM, BE ADJUSTED DOWNWARD.
BUT THEN GOING FORWARD THE NEXT YEAR, IT COULD BE ADJUSTED UPWARD.
SO IT'S, IT REALLY DEPENDS ON, WE NEED TO LOOK BACK AT THE ECONOMY THE LAST TWO YEARS AND SEE WHAT, HOW THE ECONOMY HAS PERFORMED.
UM, THERE WAS AN ARTICLE THAT I HAD READ SEVERAL WEEKS AGO WHERE CALPERS HAD LOST $10 MILLION IN ONE DAY.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT WILL AFFECT US IN THE FUTURE, YOU KNOW, TWO YEARS DOWN THE ROAD FROM NOW, OUR UAL COULD BE, UM, COULD BE DOUBLED.
IT, IT'S HARD TO SAY IT COULD BE DOUBLED.
WHAT, FROM WHAT THE NUMBER THAT'S ON HERE RIGHT NOW.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, NOT BEING A FINANCIAL PERSON MYSELF, UM, IT'S EASY TO SORT OF THINK WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW, RIGHT NOW IMMEDIATELY IS GOING TO BE FELT, UM, NOT IMMEDIATELY, BUT DOWN THE LINE.
AND I KNOW THAT, UM, WE ARE, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S DETAILED HERE.
OUR UAL PAYMENT DID BALLOON IT, IT DOUBLED FROM FISCAL YEAR 25 TO FISCAL YEAR 26.
UM, I THINK IT, IT'LL BE WISE TO AT LEAST KEEP IT IN THE BACK OF YOUR MIND THAT THAT SCENARIO COULD HAPPEN AGAIN, BASED JUST ON WHAT'S HAPPENING TODAY.
UM, THESE PAYMENTS THAT ARE LISTED HERE COULD ACTUALLY, IN FACT, BALLOON AGAIN WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, MUCH ANTICIPATION.
OR THEY COULD SHRINK OR AN ECONOMIC DOWNTURN, IT, THEY TEND TO SHRINK.
SO, OR THEY COULD SHRINK THEY COULD DO THAT TOO, I'M JUST SAYING.
WELL, I THINK, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS YOU, BUT NO ONE HAS A CRYSTAL BALL, SO WE DON'T KNOW.
WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS YOU FOLLOW IS THE CURRENT REPORT OUT.
AND THEN THEY ALSO HAVE THEIR CURRENT REPORT OUTS OF HOW THEY'RE DOING IN THE MARKET.
SO IF WE CONSTANTLY HEAR BAD NEWS COMING OUT OF PERS PERFORMANCE, THEN YOU CAN GUESS THAT THIS PICTURE IS NOT GONNA LOOK BETTER IN THE FUTURE.
AND AGAIN, THAT SOME OF THAT IS DELAYED, YOU KNOW, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S HOW YOU MONITOR IT.
THEY GIVE YOU PROJECTIONS, YOU LISTEN TO WHAT'S GOING ON.
AND THEY'RE PRETTY CONSERVATIVE BECAUSE OF THE LOSSES THEY HAD IN EARLY 2000, UH, WHERE THEY WERE MORE AGGRESSIVE AND PEOPLE SAID, OKAY, BE MORE CONSERVATIVE.
AND THEN THEY TAINT EVEN MORE DURING THE RECESSION BECAUSE THEY WERE TOO CONSERVATIVE AND THEY DIDN'T GET THE BOUNCE BACK.
SO IT'S, IT'S A DOUBLE-EDGED SWORD.
YOU WANT THEM TO THEIR INVESTMENTS TO GROW, BUT YOU DON'T WANNA LOSE IT.
YOU KNOW? I GUESS THE POINT HERE IS THIS IS COMPLETELY OUT OF OUR CONTROL.
TOTALLY OUT OF OUR, THAT PART IS, YEAH.
OH, BUT REAL QUICK, CAN I JUMP ON THE UA PAYMENTS? BUT WE DO HAVE A RESERVE.
SO OUR RESERVE DOES COVER THAT FOR E EMERGENCIES, RIGHT? SO IF WE DO GET THE, THAT'S WHAT THE, WHICH, WHICH OF THE RESERVES COVERS THE ULA PAYMENTS? IS IT THE PENSION TRUST RESERVE? YES.
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I WOULD COMMENT BEFORE, UH, BACK TO BACK TO LEWIS, IS THAT I'M FINE FOR ME FUNDING ALL OF THOSE RESERVES UP TO LEVEL EXCEPT FOR THE ECONOMIC CONTINGENCY RESERVE.SO I LIKE THAT CONVERSATION ABOUT CHANGING THAT FOR ME, THE 20%, UM, TO DOWN TO 10%, BECAUSE IT'S NEVER, UM, BEEN DEFINED.
AS I RECALL, THIS WAS EVEN APPROVED BEFORE ME AND JOSE GOT ON.
SO I, I DON'T KNOW IF THE MAYOR REMEMBERS OR CAN SPEAK TO WHAT THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE USED FOR.
BUT IF WE'RE COMING TO AN ECONOMIC KIND OF UNCERTAINTY, TO ME THAT'S APPROPRIATE TO USE THAT FOR SOMETHING THAT IN MY MIND WILL GENERATE ECONOMIC ACTIVITY FOR SALES, TAX REVENUE AND OTHER FEES OR WHATEVER OTHER REVENUE.
SO, TO, IN MY MIND, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD THINK IT'S FOR.
BUT I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SPEAK TO WHAT THAT FUND IS FOR AND WHY THE 20% IS SO HIGH.
AT THE TIME IT WAS BECAUSE WE WERE HAVING SOME, UH, TEMPORARY RECESSIONS THAT WE KNEW WE WERE, WE WERE DIPPING.
SO THIS WAS TO BA BASICALLY TO FILL IN TO BE A LEVELER.
AND, BUT WE HAVE THESE TEMPORARY, UH, UH, TEMPORARY, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE SPIKES AND VALLEYS, AND SO IT WAS TRY TO BE A LEVELER EFFECT.
SO FOR SITUATIONS LIKE COMING UP, YOU THINK THIS IS A LITTLE BIT MORE UNCERTAIN THAN THAT? 'CAUSE I'D SAY I, THIS IS, THIS IS KIND OF UNPRECEDENTED, UNPRECEDENTED, UH, TIMES AS FAR AS, UH, WHAT'S GOING ON.
SO I NOT QUITE AS PREDICTABLE, MR. MAYOR? YES.
UH, JUST THE ECONOMIC CONTINGENCY RESERVE, BECAUSE I WAS HERE ON COUNCIL AND WE PUSHED IT WITH THE PREVIOUS CITY MANAGER BECAUSE WE WERE GOING THROUGH COVID AND IT WAS UNCERTAIN WHAT WOULD HAPPEN.
AND SO WE PUSHED THE RESERVE FROM EITHER 10 TO 20 OR 15 TO 20.
IT WAS 15 TO 25 BREAK, 15 TO 20.
SO, BUT THE DISCUSSION WAS BECAUSE WE WERE UNCERTAIN, RIGHT.
IF THE FEDS WERE GONNA COME IN AND ASSIST US WHEN WE WERE HAVING DWINDLING SALES TAXES IN THE CITY.
AND, UH, SO THAT WAS THE REASON TO PUSH FOR, AND WE KNEW THAT WAS A FINITE TIME.
IT WAS GOING TO END, YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT.
NOT WE THOUGHT, BUT I'M REALLY GLAD AND HAPPY THAT, YOU KNOW, ARPA AND OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT STEPPED IN AND SUPPORTED US TO TREMENDOUSLY.
UM, BUT, BUT I, I, I, I DO AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUE.
I DO BELIEVE THAT 20% IS A BIT HIGH FOR THE ECONOMIC CONTINGENCY RESERVE, BUT I WOULD EVEN BE OPEN TO BACK TO THE 15, UM, UTILIZE SOME OF THE RESERVE TO INVEST IN OUR FUTURE AGAIN.
SO FIND WAYS TO, INSTEAD OF HAVING IT JUST SITTING THERE, AND I MEAN, I GUESS IT IS EARNING INTEREST, WHICH IS GOOD, RIGHT? YEAH.
BUT WE COULD UTILIZE IT IN ORDER TO INVEST BACK INTO OUR CITY, WHETHER IT'S PURCHASING LAND IN ORDER TO HELP DEVELOP SPUR DEVELOPMENT.
I MEAN, WE, WE HAVE TO HAVE A MORE KIND OF PROACTIVE, UM, APPROACH TO DEVELOPMENT IN OUR CITY THAT'S GOING TO HELP US BRING IN ADDITIONAL REVENUE INSTEAD OF JUST HAVING THE MONEY PARKED AND EARNING INTEREST.
BUT WE NEED TO BE MORE AGGRESSIVE, I THINK, IN THIS APPROACH.
AND I THINK IF I HEAR YOU CORRECTLY, YOU'RE NOT SAYING SERVICES FOR THAT OR LIKE THIS, THIS WOULD BE ONE TIME ALMOST INVESTMENT EXPENSES.
SO NOT, LIKE, IF I HEAR YOU CORRECTLY, YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT OPERATING EXPENSES.
I MEAN, IF WE, IF, IF, YOU KNOW, IF IF WE UTILIZE SOME OF THIS FUNDING IN ORDER TO AGGRESSIVELY PURCHASE LAND TO LOOK, TO DEVELOP INTO WHATEVER, THEN, THEN I THINK THAT'S A WORTHWHILE INVESTMENT FOR THE LONG RUN FOR THE CITY.
JUST LIKE WE ARE PLANNING ON DOING OVER ON 24TH STREET, BUT SCATTERED THROUGHOUT THE CITY IN PLACES THAT SEEM, UM, UH, VIABLE FOR US TO MAKE OUR, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, MAKE A WORTHWHILE INVESTMENT.
I, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT ONE.
I, I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE PLACE TO DO IT.
UH, THE 24TH STREET THING I THINK WAS, WOULD BE A WORTHWHILE THOUGHT FOR THAT, BECAUSE YOU'RE GETTING BACK ECONOMIC, UH, REVENUE THAT IS GONNA BE ONGOING.
UH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR LIKE A HOUSING OR SOMETHING ALONG THAT LINE, WHICH ACTUALLY ENDS UP COSTING US MORE MONEY.
BUT, BUT FOR SOMETHING THAT IS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, YEAH.
I, I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD.
I THINK WE WENT VERY, VERY FAR AWAY.
BOOP,
UH, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, JUST, JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, FOR YOUR INFORMATION, UH, BECAUSE I READ ABOUT THIS BECAUSE THE PENSION TRUST RESERVE, THAT FLUCTUATES COUNCIL MEMBER, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT, IT IS REALLY, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE SHORTFALL THERE BASED ON WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW.
THAT'S WHY THERE'S ALWAYS GONNA BE A SHORTFALL THERE, WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT.
I MEAN, THESE ARE NUMBERS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW.
BUT, BUT WOULD YOU SUPPORT, ARE YOU SAYING YOU WANT TO, YOU WOULD WANT TO FUND, FUND IT FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE? PENSION TRUST FUND RESERVE? NO, NO.
I WON'T, I WON'T, I WON'T TOUCH THAT BECAUSE IT FLUCTUATES.
I WOULD BASED ON MAYBE AFTER ALL THIS REQUEST.
NO, BUT THE TARGET, I'M SAYING,
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BUT THE TARGET, WE HAVE A SHORTFALL OF 2.5 MILLION STILL.SO SHOULD I, I'M SAYING SHOULD WE USE OUR UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE AND TRANSFER IT OVER? NO.
'CAUSE THAT'S JUST A TARGET THAT YOU GUYS BEFORE ME PUT IN POLICY.
RIGHT? SO LET US, LET US SEE WHAT, WHAT THEY ARE REQUESTING SOME MORE.
LIKE, COUNCIL MEMBER MOLINA SAID THERE'S 1000 MORE PAGES THAT WE HAVE TO, UH, GO THROUGH.
SO LET'S GO THROUGH THAT FIRST.
SO WE'LL START INTO THE INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENTAL, UM, BUDGET PRESENTATIONS.
UM, STEVE MANGANELLI, DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING PUBLIC WORKS.
UM, SINCE I'M KIND OF KICKING OFF FOR THE DEPARTMENTS, I, I FIRST JUST WANT TO THANK OUR, OUR CITY MANAGER AND FINANCE DIRECTOR FOR GIVING THE DEPARTMENTS AN OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT VERY BRIEFLY ON OUR OPERATIONS.
UH, IT'S IMPORTANT 'CAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR PROVIDING THOSE ESSENTIAL SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITY.
WE'RE ALSO THE MOST KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT WHERE, WHAT AREAS ARE WE DOING WELL AND WHAT, WHAT AREAS ARE WE COMING UP SHORT.
SO WHEN WE LOOK AT, WHEN YOU SEE REQUESTS FOR STAFF, UM, OR ADJUSTMENTS TO OUR M AND O BUDGETS, WE ARE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES FOR OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCIES.
WE'VE BEEN TASKED WITH THAT, UH, BY OUR CITY MANAGER, OPPORTUNITIES FOR NEW REVENUES.
BUT KEEP IN MIND, WHEN WE ASK FOR THINGS AND PRESENT, IT'S BECAUSE THESE ARE THE AREAS WHERE WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN DIRECTED BY STAFF TO ENHANCE SERVICES OR AREAS THAT WE'RE COMING UP SHORT AND WE NEED TO CORRECT.
SO I JUST PUT THAT INTO CONTEXT.
UM, THE LAST POINT I'LL MAKE BEFORE I I DIVE INTO THE, TO, TO OUR PRESENTATION IS, YOU KNOW, PERSONALLY IN, IN LOOKING AT THE CITY AND OUR DEPARTMENT, WHEN I SEE AN 8 MILLION THAT WE'RE, OUR, OUR, OUR EXPENDITURES IN THE GENERAL FUND ARE PROJECTED TO BE $8 MILLION MORE THAN THE REVENUES WE'RE BRINGING IN, I GET VERY, VERY NERVOUS ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE WHILE THAT RESERVE PICTURE LOOKED VERY HEALTHY, IF THAT TREND CONTINUES, THERE IS NO MORE RESERVES IN, IN A VERY SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME.
AND I WOULD REMIND THE COUNCIL, AT THE LAST BUDGET WORKSHOP, WE CUT $2 MILLION OUT OF OUR CIP FROM OUR GENERAL FUND.
SO WHEN BRUCE SHOWED YOU A TRANSFER FROM, UH, GENERAL FUND TO THE CIP FUND OF A MILLION, THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN 3 MILLION.
SO THAT MEANS OUR DEFICIT PROJECTED WOULD BE 10 MILLION.
WE ALSO PRESENTED ON THE CIP, AND WE SHOWED THAT WHAT WE SHOULD BE SPENDING ANNUALLY ON OUR CIP AND MAJOR MAINTENANCE IS ROUGHLY $20 MILLION A YEAR.
THE GENERAL FUND NEXT YEAR WILL BE CONTRIBUTING $1 MILLION.
WE HAVE OUR SEWER ENTERPRISE FUND, WHICH, YOU KNOW, PROVIDES FULL, FULL COST RECOVERY FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT ARE SEWER.
BUT WHAT ABOUT OUR ROADS? THE GAS TAX WE GET FROM THE STATE ONLY COVERS ABOUT 25% OF OUR NEEDS.
OUR TRANSNET DOLLARS HAVE BEEN GOING DOWN.
SO I WANT THE COUNCIL TO KEEP ALL THIS IN PERSPECTIVE.
UM, YOU KNOW, SCOTT SAID AT BEST, WE, WE NEED TO GET CREATIVE ON IDENTIFYING NEW REVENUE SOURCES.
AND HE TASKED US AT THE DEPARTMENT LEVEL TO LOOK AT, AT HOW WE CAN DO THAT FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENT IN OUR FUNCTIONAL AREAS.
SO THAT'S KIND OF THE CONTEXT FOR WHAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE TONIGHT FROM THE DEPARTMENTS.
I DON'T HAVE ANY GOOD ONE-LINERS.
MAYBE YOU CAN HELP ME OUT HERE, SCOTT, TO BREAK THE ICE.
UM, SO BRIEFLY, THIS IS JUST A QUICK SNAPSHOT OF OUR DEPARTMENT OPERATIONS.
WE HAVE FIVE DIVISIONS, ENGINEERING CAPITAL PROJECTS, OUR FLEET AND EQUIPMENT MAINTENANCE FACILITIES, MAINTENANCE, WHICH IS OUR BUILDINGS, STREETS AND WASTEWATER MAINTENANCE AND PARKS MAINTENANCE.
OUR, OUR CORE, UH, SERVICE AREAS ARE MANAGING AND IMPLEMENTING OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, MAINTENANCE OF THE CITY'S INFRASTRUCTURE, PARKS, FACILITIES, AND FLEET.
UM, SUPPORTING OUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES IN REGARDS TO ENGINEERING PERMITS, UH, PLANT CHECKS AND INSPECTIONS.
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A VERY COMPREHENSIVE ENVIRONMENTAL COMPLIANCE PROGRAM, WHICH INVOLVES WASTEWATER, STORM WATER, REFUSE AND RECYCLING, AND ALSO HAZARDOUS MATERIALS, AND ALSO PUBLIC SAFETY.SO LOOKING AT POTENTIAL COST SAVINGS MEASURES.
UM, THIS, THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, WORKING WITH OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT AND THE CONSULTANT TEAM, WE DID A COMPLETE OVERHAUL OF OUR, OF HOW WE STRUCTURE OUR DEVELOPER USER FEES.
AND WE MOVE TOWARDS A FULL COST RECOVERY MODEL.
THAT MEANS THAT MORE OF OUR, WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO, WE'RE GOING TO GET MORE OF A TRUE, UM, COST, COST RECOVERY FOR THE TIME OUR STAFF SPENDS IN DEVELOP DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
UM, IN ADDITION, WE, WE'VE HAD ONGOING COORDINATION WITH OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT INVOLVING OUR FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT SYSTEM AND THE ABILITY, UM, TO WORK WITH THE VENDOR TO IMPLEMENT THESE PROJECT ACCOUNTING AND PAYROLL MODULES AND HAVE THEM SYNCHRONIZED, WHICH ALLOWS US TO IMPROVE COST RECOVERY, REDUCE OUR ADMINISTRATIVE RE ADMINISTRATIVE RESOURCES, UH, BURDEN, AND ALSO ALLOW US THE ABILITY TO USE GRANT FUNDS TO REIMBURSE THE GENERAL FUND.
RIGHT NOW, WHEN OUR STAFF ARE, UH, WORKING ON, UM, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS, WE'RE ACTUALLY HAVING TO MANUALLY ENTER IN THE PERMIT NUMBER AND OUR TIME INTO TIME SHEETS.
OUR ADMIN STAFF THEN NEEDS TO PULL THOSE EVERY TWO WEEKS, SUBMIT 'EM TO PAYROLL TO MAKE SURE THAT DEVELOP DEVELOPMENT IS REIMBURSING OUR STAFF TIME.
IT IS A HUGE ADMINISTRATIVE BURDEN.
HAVING AN AUTOMATED SYNCHRONIZED SYSTEM IS KEY, NOT JUST FOR OUR DEPARTMENT, BUT ALL THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT.
AND THEN ONE OF THE OTHER ITEMS OUR CITY MANAGER TASKED US WITH WAS EXPLORING OPPORTUNITIES TO ESTABLISH NEW ENTERPRISE FUNDS.
RIGHT NOW, OUR SEWER SERVICE FUND, YOU, YOU'VE SEEN SOME PRESENTATIONS AT RECENT COUNCIL MEETINGS.
UM, IT'S A SELF-SUFFICIENT FUND.
UH, IT ALLOWS THE END USER TO PAY FOR THE COST OF THE SERVICE.
SO OUR SEWER CREWS ARE A HUNDRED PERCENT FUNDED BY THIS ENTERPRISE FUND.
OUR VEHICLES, OUR EQUIPMENT RELATED TO SEWER AND OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS, WE INTEND TO FULLY EXPLORE A, A SIMILAR TYPE OF FEE, NOT A TAX.
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN TAX AND A FEE IS A FEE IS IT'S THE USER REIMBURSING FOR THE COST OF THE SERVICE.
WE WANT TO EXPLORE THAT FOR STORMWATER.
UM, JUST THE REGULATIONS ALONE AND FROM THE STATE AND, AND AND REGIONALLY HERE AT THE REGIONAL BOARD, THEY GO UP EVERY YEAR.
WE, THEY'RE UNFUNDED MANDATES.
WE DON'T HAVE A, A GOOD SOURCE OF REVENUE TO PAY FOR IN COMPLIANCE SYSTEM MAINTENANCE.
WE HAD DEVASTATING FUND, UH, FLOODING A YEAR AND A, A YEAR AND A HALF AGO.
WE HAVE TO PAY TO, TO UPGRADE OUR SYSTEMS, UM, AND MITIGATE FOR FUTURE FLOODING.
SO THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY THAT, THAT WE WANT TO FOCUS ON.
UM, WE LOOKED AT ENGINEERING AND THEN ALSO THE PUBLIC WORKS DIVISIONS ON THE ENGINEERING DIVISION.
AND THIS GOES TO SOME OF THE CONVERSATION THAT WAS BROUGHT UP EARLIER.
UM, THIS COUNCIL APPROVED FULL FUNDING FOR A CITY ENGINEER.
OUT OF THOSE FIVE DIVISIONS, IT'S THE ONE DIVISION.
SO WHAT IT DOES IS IT, IT PUTS AN INTENSE AMOUNT OF STRESS ON, UH, ON OUR STAFF.
AND THEN IT'S TIME AWAY FROM BOTH MYSELF AND OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR TO HAVE TO MANAGE ALL THAT.
UM, WE DID NOT FUND THAT POSITION AS A COST SAVING MEASURE THIS YEAR, WHAT WE'RE ASKING IS, UM, WE NEED TO FUND A MANAGER FOR ENGINEERING CAPITAL PROJECTS.
WE HAVE A VERY ROBUST CIP AND THAT POSITION WOULD ALSO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR IMPROVING, UM, OUR, OUR COMMITMENT TO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND EXPEDITING PERMITS AND IMPROVING MAKING FOR A MORE BUSINESS FRIENDLY ENVIRONMENT.
SO WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING IS TO ACTUALLY UNDERFILL THAT POSITION WITH THE PRINCIPAL ENGINEERS, A COST SAVINGS MEASURE.
IT WOULD ALSO PROVIDE AN EXCELLENT CAREER ADVANCEMENT OPPORTUNITY FOR ONE OF OUR EXISTING ENGINEERS.
THE OTHER PIECE TO THIS IS FOR THE LAST THREE BUDGET CYCLES, WE'VE HAD A KEY ASSISTANT CIVIL ENGINEER POSITION THAT THE PRIMARY PURPOSE OF THAT POSITION IS TO SUPPORT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, HAS BEEN FROZEN WITH NO FUNDING.
WE'RE ASKING THAT AS PART OF THIS BUDGET.
WE FINALLY FUND THAT POSITION AND THEN USE OUR NEW MODEL OF COST RECOVERY THROUGH OUR USER FEES TO PAY FOR MOST OF THAT POSITION.
UH, SO THAT'S OUR, OUR PLAN THERE.
UM, THE OTHER BENEFIT OF, OF FILLING THESE
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POSITIONS IS IT WILL GREATLY REDUCE OUR RELIANCE ON CONSULTANTS.WE ARE SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY WITH CONSULTANTS.
A GOOD PORTION OF THAT IS REIMBURSED THROUGH GRANTS, UM, AND, AND DEVELOPER FEES.
HOWEVER, THERE'S STILL GENERAL FUND THAT'S GOING OUT IN THE FORM OF CONTRACT SERVICES SO THAT WE CAN DO THE ESSENTIAL SERVICES.
IF WE CAN BRING THAT BACK IN HOUSE.
AN AREA THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO SEE SAVE IS, IS NOT FILLING THE SECOND TREE TRIMMING CREW.
UM, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WAS APPROVED A FEW YEARS AGO.
THE, THE, THE SECOND TRUCK NEVER GOT PURCHASED.
AND RIGHT NOW WE'VE, THE MODEL WE'VE GONE WITH THAT HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL IS A COMBINATION OF IN-HOUSE FORCES AND SPECIALIZED CONTRACTORS.
AND WE BELIEVE THAT MODEL HAS ENABLED US TO, TO MEET OUR TREE MAINTENANCE SCHEDULED DEMANDS AND, UM, AND BE AN EFFECTIVE DEPARTMENT.
IF WE DO THAT, WE WILL SEE A SAVINGS BY NOT HAVING TO INVEST IN THAT VEHICLE, THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS OF THE VEHICLE EQUIPMENT AND, AND ALL OF THE ONGOING COSTS WITH, WITH TWO NEW EMPLOYEES.
SO AGAIN, JUST TO CLARIFY, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT ELIMINATING EXISTING STAFF.
THIS WAS A SECOND CREW THAT WAS, THAT WAS RECOMMENDED.
LASTLY, I DO WANT TO TOUCH ON SOME SERVICE ENHANCEMENTS.
BRUCE PRESENTED THIS IN ONE OF HIS SLIDES.
UM, FIRST WITH OUR WASTEWATER CREW, UM, WE ARE NOT A, UH, KEEPING UP WITH ALL OF OUR MAINTENANCE RESPONSIBILITIES.
AND IT'S, IT'S DUE TO RESOURCING.
WE HAD A AUDIT FROM THE REGULATORY AGENCIES THIS PAST YEAR.
UM, THAT AUDIT SHED SOME LIGHT ON THE FACT THAT WE CAN BENEFIT FROM ADDITIONAL RESOURCES, WHETHER IT'S, UM, INSPECTING OUR, OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, EXPANDING OUR CIP AND DOING A BETTER JOB WITH, WITH MAINTENANCE OF, OF FLUSHING LINES AND ET CETERA.
SO WE ARE REQUESTING A NEW OPERATOR AND A NEW MAINTENANCE WORKER, UM, FUNDED THROUGH THE SEWER SERVICE FUND WITH NO IMPACT TO THE GENERAL FUND.
UM, THIS HAS BEEN A, A CHALLENGE SINCE I WAS HERE LAST TIME.
WE ARE COMPLETELY UNDERFUNDED WITH CUSTODIANS BASED ON THE NUMBER OF FACILITIES AND THE SERVICES WE NEED TO PROVIDE.
UM, THIS AREA CONCERNS ME BECAUSE OUR EMPLOYEES DESERVE A, A CLEAN, HEALTHY WORKING ENVIRONMENT AS THE DOES THE PUBLIC.
AND WHEN I GET CALLS THAT WE HAVEN'T DEEP CLEANED A RESTROOM IN A NUMBER OF MONTHS, OR, YOU KNOW, THE FLOORS IN THE LIBRARY ARE FILTHY, THOSE ARE THE AREAS WE'RE NOT GETTING TO.
WE'RE BARELY DOING THE BASICS OF CUSTODIAL SERVICES.
SAME WITH OUR PARK RESTROOMS. YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT MORE THAT CAN BE DONE.
UM, AND THE, AND THE OTHER THING IT DOES IS IT PUTS A LOT OF STRESS ON OUR CURRENT CUSTODIAL STAFF.
THEY'RE TAKING ON SO MUCH RIGHT NOW.
SO YOU CAN SEE HERE WE'RE, WE'RE RIGHT AROUND ABOUT A HALF A CUSTODIAN PER FACILITY.
IT'S JUST WE'RE, WE'RE NOT WHERE WE NEED TO BE.
SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING FOUR ADDITIONAL CUSTODIAN.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THE FACILITIES THAT WOULD BENEFIT THE MOST FROM THIS, IT'S OUR MORE OF OUR PUBLIC FACING FACILITIES, OUR LIBRARY, OUR COMMUNITY CENTERS, OUR NUTRITION CENTER, OUR REC CENTERS, OUR PARK RESTROOMS. IN ADDITION, OUR CUSTODIANS GET PULLED OFF TO DO SETUPS FOR SPECIAL EVENTS.
THAT'S PART OF THEIR JOB DESCRIPTIONS.
SO A LOT OF THIS NEEDS TO BE MANAGED, AND THIS WOULD WOULD BE A HUGE HELP TO OUR DEPARTMENT.
SO, UH, I KNOW THAT WAS A BIT LONG, BUT I DID WANT TO SET THE STAGE FOR CARLOS AND OTHERS.
OH, I GUESS THOUGH, I THINK WE WANTED TO STOP AND YEAH.
GIVE THE COUNCIL OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THEIR BUDGET THAT'S BEFORE YOU OR ANY, UH, FEEDBACK FOR, UH, STEVE? OKAY.
SO, UH, THANK YOU, UM, MR. MANGANELLO FOR YOUR REPORT.
UM, IT'S, IT, I THINK EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, DID THE SAME THING.
BUT LET'S GO WITH YOUR REPORT FIRST.
YOU SAID YOUR ASK SAYS YOU NEED THAT CITY ENGINEER AND ASSISTANT CIVIL ENGINEER THAT'S NOT UNDER GENERAL FUND.
SO TO CLARIFY, UM, THE, THE CITY ENGINEER IS FULLY BUDGETED
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CURRENTLY.AND IT'S FULLY, IT'S IN YOUR BUDGET BOOK? IT'S FULLY FUNDED FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
AS A COST SAVING MEASURES, WE ARE LOOKING TO UNDERFILL THAT WITH A PRINCIPAL ENGINEER.
WHICH IS STILL A MANAGER, BUT IT WOULD BE A COST SAVINGS TO THE GENERAL FUND IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT BY A HUNDRED K.
I DON'T KNOW, WITH MY OTHER, AND THEN FREEZE SECONDARY TRIMMING, THAT'S ALREADY IN THE BUDGET.
WE, WE, I REMEMBER THIS BECAUSE OF THOSE COMPLAINTS ABOUT THOSE TREES THAT WERE, UH, FIRE HAZARD.
SO THAT ONE, AND THEN YOU SAID THAT THERE ARE, UM, EQUIP, UM, WASTE WASTEWATER CREW AND, UM, EQUIPMENT OPERATOR THAT IS NOT, THAT THERE'S NO IMPACT TO THE GENERAL FUND, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
SO THOSE ARE TWO POSITIONS, SIR, THAT WOULD BE TWO NEW POSITIONS.
AND THEN THE FOUR PARENT, THE FOUR ADDITIONAL CUSTODIANS, WHICH WILL REALLY SERVICE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, OUR PUBLIC AREAS ARE THAT, THAT'S GONNA BE IN THE GENERAL FUND.
AND I THINK BRUCE SHOWED, UH, IN HIS ESTIMATE, IT'S IN THE, IT, IT'S IN HIS SLIDE.
UH, I THINK IT WAS ABOUT 260 SOMETHING THOUSAND DOLLARS ANNUAL IMPACT TO THE GENERAL FUND.
SO THOSE ARE THE, UH, THE REQUEST.
UM, GO AHEAD FIRST, I, I'M SORRY, MR. MAYOR.
JOSE, GO YOUR NEXT, UH, THANK YOU, SIR.
UM, JUST A QUICK QUESTION FOR THE COST SAVING MEASURES, UH, SLIDE, THE CURRENT COST FOR A TREE TRIMMING CREW.
CAN YOU REMIND ME, UM, HOW MUCH WAS THE YEARLY ALLOCATED AMOUNT FOR THIS PARTICULAR CREW? IS IT 150 OR TWO 50? I DON'T REMEMBER THOSE EQUIPMENT.
THE CONTRACT SERVICES, NOT, NOT A NEW CREW, BUT THE CONTRACTED SERVICES, WHICH
BUT, BUT WE HAD PASSED A NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT OF, SO IT, REMEMBER IT WAS, IT WAS 300,000 OVER A THREE YEAR PERIOD.
THAT'S, I DEFINITELY SUPPORT THAT.
I MEAN, IT'S A SERVICE THAT OUR COMMUNITY NEEDS ALL THE TIME.
AND I, YOU KNOW, I SEND A LOT OF REQUESTS, UH, THAT COMMUNITY SENDS OUR WAY.
SO THANK YOU FOR THINKING OF THAT.
AND ALSO, I, I CANNOT STRESS ENOUGH.
UM, AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING UP THE CUSTODIAN.
I MEAN, I, AT TIMES, I COME EARLY IN THE MORNING AND, UM, OUR CURRENT CUSTODIAN FOR THE BUILDING IS CLEANING UP FECES AND, UM, CLEANING UP, UM, URINE IN FRONT OF OUR BUILDING.
IT'S COMPLETELY UNSIGHTLY AND IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST, UM, IT'S GROSS.
AND WE SHOULD NOT HAVE THAT ANYWHERE IN OUR PUBLIC FACILITIES.
AND SO I CAN'T STRESS ENOUGH THE NEED TO HAVE MORE CUSTODIANS AROUND THE CITY.
SO I, I WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT THE PROPOSAL.
SO MR. CHAIR, JUST TO SUMMARIZE, ONE PRINCIPAL MANAGER, RIGHT? WELL, THAT, THAT'S ALREADY BUDGETED.
OKAY, THEN WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM THEN.
SO THE REQUEST WOULD BE ONE UNFREEZING AND FUNDING THE ASSISTANT CIVIL ENGINEER.
THAT'S, UH, MORE OR LESS A BUT THERE'S NO IMPACT TO THE GENERAL FUND.
SO WE DON'T HAVE A PROB PROBLEM AND FREEZE ALREADY, RIGHT? YES.
SO, SO THAT ONE, THE GOOD NEWS WITH THAT POSITION, AND I'LL, I'LL CLARIFY SINCE YOU'RE ASKING THE QUESTION.
UM, ROUGHLY 70% OF THAT POSITION WOULD BE FUNDED BY THE GENERAL FUND.
AND THEN WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES WITH SOME OF THE OTHER, UH, SERVICE FUNDS TO COVER THE 30%.
HOWEVER, THAT POSITION WOULD BE PRIMARILY DEDICATED TO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
SO WE CAN USE THE FEES WE CHARGE DEVELOPERS TO REIMBURSE THO THOSE PERSONNEL EXPENSES.
ALRIGHT, MAYOR, CAN I MAKE A COMMENT? ANYONE? YEAH.
CAN I MAKE A COMMENT? SO ONE OF THE CONCEPTS THAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD, AND IT'S IN UNISON WITH THE FEE SCHEDULE THAT YOU SAW LAST NIGHT, WAS TRYING TO MAKE THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AN ENTERPRISE PLAN MM-HMM
THAT IT'S PAYING FREIGHT, THAT IT'S, UH, REQUIRED TO DEAL WITH DEVELOPMENT OR OTHER ATTRIBUTES OF DEVELOPMENT.
AND SO THIS, YOU'RE KIND OF IN THE FIRST STAGES OF THAT.
UM, YOU DO WANT TO RIGHT SIZE AND WE WANT TO HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY IF DEVELOPMENT STARTS INCREASING, UM, WE WANT TO KEEP AN AGGRESSIVE, UM, CUSTOMER SERVICE,
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UH, CUSTOMER SERVICE, CUSTOMER FRIENDLY, UH, DEPARTMENT OUTTA THAT.AND, AND TO FREE IT UP AS A ENTERPRISE DEPARTMENT ALLOWS IT THAT CONTINUITY AND FLEXIBILITY TO DO THAT.
SO WE, WE DON'T HAVE THE FULL PROPOSAL IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT, BUT THAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE BOTH PLANNING, BUILDING, AND ENGINEERING, IS TO BE IN THAT MODE.
AND THAT'S GONNA MAKE US MORE RESPONSIVE AND TO HAVE THEM STAND ON THEIR OWN.
SO IT'S REALLY, EVEN THOUGH IT MAY BE FUNDED RIGHT NOW THROUGH THE GENERAL FUND, WE'RE TRYING TO GET IT TO WORK ALMOST LIKE THE WASTEWATER FUND DOES, BUT OUT OF DEVELOPMENT FEES.
AND SO THEY PAY FOR THEIR FAIR SHARE.
UH, THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD FOR IT REALLY WAS GEARED TOWARDS STEVE, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE UNDERSTANDING THAT, UM, THE PRINCIPAL POSITION IS ALREADY FUNDED MM-HMM
THAT THIS IS GONNA BE, THIS IS GONNA BE A LESSER AMOUNT THAN WHAT IS FUNDED.
SO THERE'S SOME SAVINGS THERE, AND THEN THE ENGINEERING ONE IS FUNDED, BUT IT'S JUST, IT'S IT'S FROZEN.
IT, IT'S, IF IT'S, YEAH, IF IT'S FROZEN, THAT MEANS COUNSEL NEEDS TO ACT TO, TO FUND IT, TO UNFREEZE IT, WHICH WOULD, WHEN YOU UNFREEZE, THEN IT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE THEIR COMMITMENT TO FUND THE POSITION.
IT'S IN THE BUDGET RIGHT NOW, OR NO? UM, I BELIEVE IT, IT IS IN THE BUDGET.
THAT POSITION IS, IS, I'VE SEEN TWO.
THAT POSITION IS CURRENTLY AS PART OF THE PROPOSED FISCAL YEAR 26 BUDGET, THE CIVIL ENGINEER POSITION IS SHOWING AS FUNDED.
SO IF THEY MOVE FORWARD WITH, WITH THAT, IT WOULD BE INCLUDED.
SO THAT'S NOT AN ADDITIONAL ACTION THEY WOULD NEED TO TAKE.
AND THIS IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN THE FREEZE THAT I'M, THAT I DID.
OURS WAS JUST TO GET US TO THE BUDGET PROCESS, SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT STUFF, BUT, OKAY.
CARLOS
UM, OH, WAIT, I HAD, I HAD, SORRY, I HAD QUESTION.
SO STEVE, THANK YOU SO MUCH, UH, FOR YOUR WORK.
I'M SO GLAD YOU'VE BEEN BACK FOR A, A WHILE, FOR A COUPLE YEARS.
I'M SO GLAD YOU'RE BACK ON THE WORK.
I, I APPRECIATE THE DILIGENCE, LIKE YOUR CANDOR ABOUT JUST BEING REAL WITH US ABOUT, YOU KNOW, NOT TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT WHAT WE'RE SPENDING AND THEN JUST THESE OTHER FUNDS.
SO, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT REALNESS.
AND I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO JUST BE REAL WITH US AND GIVE US, UM, LIKE WE HAVE TO HAVE THESE UNCOMFORTABLE CONVERSATIONS.
AND EVEN IF WE DISAGREE, THAT IS OKAY, BUT WE NEED ALL THE INFORMATION AND ALL YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO PLEASE, THE CANDOR, I REALLY APPRECIATE AND THANK YOU CITY MANAGER FOR ALLOWING THAT AND INVITING THAT.
SO I AGREE WITH, UH, ALL OF THESE, I KNOW TREE TRIMMING, WE WANTED TO LIKE REALLY EN ENHANCE THAT, BUT JUST GIVEN THE BUDGET SITUATION, I, I AGREE WITH THAT.
UM, ON THE COST SAVING MEASURES AND COORDINATING WITH THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT, UM, TO SYNCHRONIZE PROJECT ACCOUNTING WITH PAYROLL AND TO REDUCE, TO IMPROVE COST RECOVERY AND TO REDUCE THE BURDEN ON ADMINISTRATIVE RESOURCES, IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR AI TYPE PROGRAMMING TO ASSIST WITH THAT AND HELP OUT WITH THAT AT ALL? ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE? UH, I'M, I'M NOT SURE.
I MEAN, I, I THINK AS FAR AS OPERATIONS GO, AI IS, IS I THINK HAS A ROLE IN ALL OF OUR RESPECTIVE FIELDS.
THIS IS MORE OUR FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE.
IT'S JUST WORKING TO GET 'EM IMPLEMENTED, STAFF TRAINED, AND THEN UTILIZE, FULLY UTILIZE THE SYSTEM YOU PURSUED.
OUR, UM, MUNI ACCOUNTING SOFTWARE DOES OFFER THOSE FUNCTIONALITIES.
UM, AT THIS TIME WE ARE NOT ABLE TO IMPLEMENT THAT 'CAUSE WE'RE STILL IN THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE FULL PRODUCT.
AND SO ONCE THAT BECOMES FULLY FUNCTIONAL, UM, WHICH I WILL DISCUSS LATER IN MY PRESENTATION, THEN, THEN WE CAN START IMPLEMENTING THAT JOB COSTING.
AND THEN FOR, UM, SO IT SEEMS LIKE THERE, SO YOU DID, UH, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE CUTS AND THE COST SAVINGS YOU MADE, STEVE.
'CAUSE I KNOW THAT WAS TOUGH DECISIONS AND I APPRECIATE THE ENHANCEMENTS.
SO I SUPPORT THE ENHANCEMENTS, ESPECIALLY IN OUR, OUR PARKS AND, YOU KNOW, UH, WITH THE CUSTODIANS.
UM, SO FOR THIS, UH, SO EXPLORE OPPORTUNITIES TO ESTABLISH A NEW ENTERPRISE FUND SO THAT, SO THAT WOULD BE THE NEW REVENUE GENERATION.
AND I ALWAYS CAUTION CALLING IT, UM, IT IS A NEW REVENUE STREAM, BUT IT'S REALLY JUST TO BETTER, UH, PAY FOR THE SERVICES PROVIDED.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, OH, UNDERSTOOD.
OH, I UNDERSTAND THE SAME HERE.
BUT IT, IT, IT KIND OF GOES HAND IN HAND.
WHAT, DID YOU HAVE AN, IS THERE A BALLPARK FIGURE? IS IT 500,000 IS A MILLION, IS IT 20? LIKE WHAT DO WE WE HAVE, WE HAVEN'T STARTED, UH, WE HAVE SET ASIDE SOME BUDGET FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
IF OUR CURRENT BUDGET GETS APPROVED TO BRING ON A SPECIALIST TO
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DO DO THAT ANALYSIS, IT WOULD BE A FULL, UM, A FULL STUDY, UM, TO DETERMINE, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT THE IMPACT OF, UM, STORMWATER RUNOFF IS, UM, ON VER ON ON ALL THE DIFFERENT PROPERTIES IN THE CITY.UM, AND THEN WE GO THROUGH, UH, THE METHODOLOGY ANALYSIS TO ESTABLISH WHAT WOULD THOSE FEES LOOK LIKE, AND THEN WHAT IS THE PROCESS WE WOULD NEED TO GO THROUGH? LIKE, WHO PAYS THOSE FEES, RIGHT? FOR EXAMPLE, IF IT'S A GEOGRAPHIC AREA, IT, IT, IT, IT WOULD BE TIED TO THE TYPE OF PROPERTY LIKE YOU, SIMILAR DC YOUR SEWER FEES STRUCTURE, YOU CAN HAVE A DIFFERENT FEES FOR RESIDENTIAL VERSUS COMMERCIAL.
IT'S A DIFFERENT TYPE OF ANALYSIS, BUT IT, THE PRINCIPLES ARE, ARE THE SAME.
IT'S ABOUT ESTABLISHING FEES TO PAY FOR THE COST OF THESE ESSENTIAL SERVICES THAT THE COMMUNITY IS BENEFITING FROM.
SO COULD YOU DO THAT EVEN GEOGRAPHICALLY, FOR EXAMPLE? SO I DON'T KNOW, FOR STORMWATER, IF YOU LIVE IN A FLOODPLAIN OR IF YOU HAVE A BUSINESS IN A FLOODPLAIN, LIKE THEY, I, I DON'T KNOW.
BUT, BUT, BUT THOSE NEEDS, IF THERE'S A BIGGER, THE NEEDS TO, THE NEEDS TO UPGRADE OUR SYSTEM AND THE CAPITAL SIDE OF IT, AND THEN YOUR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATING EXPENSES, AND THEN THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THESE REGULATORY PROGRAMS FOR THE PERMIT COMPLIANCE, ALL THOSE WOULD BE ELIGIBLE, UM, EXPENSES THAT WE COULD RECEIVE, UH, POTENTIALLY FEES TO OFFSET THOSE COSTS.
UM, AND THEN FINAL QUESTION IS ON THE, UH, SERVICE ENHANCEMENTS.
AND IT IS JUST, IT'S MENTIONED, UH, CLEANLINESS FOR, UH, FACIL CITY FACILITIES, PARKS, AND RESTROOMS, UM, AND, UH, SPECIAL EVENTS.
SO WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT, UH, RENTING OUR FACILITIES MORE AS POTENTIAL REVENUE GENERATING.
SO IS THAT FALLING UNDER YOU AND YOUR BUDGET? YEAH, SO I MEAN, I'LL JUST, I'LL GIVE A A QUICK EXAMPLE.
UM, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE'S BEEN AN INCREASE IN PROGRAMMING AT THE MLK COMMUNITY, UH, CENTER, BECAUSE WE HAD TO SHUT DOWN THE LTO N REC CENTER THAT REQUIRES A MUCH HEAVIER AMOUNT OF, UH, CUSTODIAL, UH, PREP FOR THE RESTROOMS AND KEEPING THAT ROOM CLEAN BECAUSE IT'S GETTING HIGHER USE.
AND YES, IF YOU'RE GONNA RENT OUT FACILITIES FOR SPECIAL EVENTS, IT WOULD BE OUR FACILITIES MAINTENANCE STAFF, UM, PRIMARILY OUR CUSTODIANS THAT WOULD, WOULD SUPPORT, UH, TABLES, CHAIRS, SETUPS, TEAR DOWNS FOR THOSE EVENTS.
SO AGAIN, THAT WOULD CREATE MORE CAPACITY FOR US TO TAKE ON THESE ENHANCED SERVICES.
SO THEN WOULD THE CONVERSATION ABOUT, IF, IN ORDER TO DO, AND THIS IS MORE LATER DOWN IN OUR DISCUSSION, BUT IF WE'RE LOOKING AT REVENUE GENERATING OPPORTUNITIES AND BRINGING EVENTS, UH, JOSE MENTIONED QUINCEANERA IS LIKE, LIKE PARTIES AND RENTING OUR FACILITIES FOR COMMUNITY, WOULD, WOULD THAT, AND I'M TALKING ABOUT FOR MAKING MONEY AND FOR, YOU KNOW, ADDRESSING SOME OF THE RULES AND RESTRICTIONS.
IS THAT FALLING UNDER YOU? DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH PROPOSING THAT? YEAH, ACTUALLY.
SO THE USER FEES THAT YOU GUYS ADOPTED LAST NIGHT, AND IN THAT WHOLE SCHEDULE, UM, IF YOU'RE GONNA CREATE, UH, LOOK TO CREATE NEW FEES THROUGH, THROUGH THAT PROCESS, UH, THE INPUT COMES DIRECTLY FROM THE DEPARTMENTS AND THE STAFF THAT ARE PROVIDING THOSE SERVICES.
AND THEN, AND AGAIN, THAT'S THE BASIS FOR ESTABLISHING YOUR FULL COST RECOVERY FEE.
AND THEN YOU HAVE THE, THE COUNCIL HAS THE, THE DECISION ON DO WE WANNA SUBSIDIZE SOME OF THESE PROGRAMS THAT ARE MORE, UM, COMMUNITY ENHANCEMENT BASED OR SO ON AND SO FORTH.
SO, SO YES, WE WOULD BE INVOLVED IN, IN ANYTHING THAT WOULD RELATE TO CUSTODIAL SERVICES, UM, OR SETUPS FOR AND TEAR DOWNS FOR EVENTS.
ALRIGHT, BEFORE YOU GET GOING WITH THAT, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND RELEASE THE, UH, UM, INTERPRETER.
I'M GONNA RELEASE THE INTERPRETER.
CARLOS RE, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR FOR THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY.
UH, THANK YOU, STEVE, UH, FOR YOUR CANDOR AND KIND OF INTRODUCING THE IMPORTANCE OF, UH, THINKING OF OUR BUDGET AS AN ENTERPRISE OPPORTUNITY.
I THINK ALL OF US AT THE DIRECTOR LEVEL HAVE MADE, UH, CONCERTED EFFORT TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN LEVERAGE, UH, THE FUNDING THAT WE RECEIVE TO CREATE AN ENTERPRISE ECOSYSTEM.
I'VE SEEN IT FROM EVERY DEPARTMENT, FROM COMMUNITY SERVICES TO POLICE, TO, UH, TO EVERYONE JUST KIND OF FIGURING OUT HOW WE CAN GET MORE BANG FOR THE BUCK.
AND, UM, SOME OF OUR REQUESTS, UH, SEEM DIFFERENT OR MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OUT OF CONTEXT, BUT THEY'RE ABSOLUTELY NOT.
THEY'RE WELL THOUGHT OUT AND IN AN APPROACH TO REALLY KIND OF LOOK AT, AT A LONGER TERM PLAN OF SUSTAINABILITY FOR THE CITY AND FOR
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OPPORTUNITY AND FOR ITS ABSOLUTE NEEDS.UM, I CAN JUST POINT TO THE FACT THAT, UH, IN THE PICTURE THAT YOU HAVE, UH, BEFORE YOU ON THE SLIDE IS, UH, A PROPERTY THAT WE JUST PARTNERED WITH COMMUNITY HOUSING WORKS TO DEVELOP, UH, 145 UNITS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHICH HAS A SENIOR CENTER AT THE GROUND FLOOR.
UH, AND AS YOU MAY KNOW, THE CITY IS NOT PAYING RENT ON THAT FACILITY.
WE ONLY ARE, UH, TO TAKE CARE OF THE INSIDE TENANT IMPROVEMENTS.
SO, UH, WE DON'T HAVE TO USE THE STEVE RESOURCES TO PAINT THE OUTSIDE OR DEAL WITH THE OUT EXTERNAL, INCLUDING, UM, LANDSCAPING, ET CETERA.
SO WE'VE GOTTA LOOK AT PARTNERSHIPS AND, AND OPPORTUNITIES TO DO THE SAME IN OTHER AREAS WITH, WITH, UH, FACILITIES AND WITH PROGRAMS AND, UH, FIGURE OUT HOW TO WORK THROUGH OPPORTUNITIES.
EVERYTHING, UH, IS AN ECONOMIC ECOSYSTEM.
SO WHEN WE ASK FOR, UH, EXPANSION OF A POSITION TO DO, UH, PARKING ENFORCEMENT, IT'S NOT ONLY, UH, THE REVENUE THAT IS BEING GENERATED, UH, BY THAT PERSON, BUT IT'S ALSO THE, THE OPPORTUNITY TO FREE UP A PARKING SPACE THAT ONE OF OUR BUSINESSES NEEDS THAT IS CREATING ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY FOR THE BUSINESSES.
WHEN, UH, WE DEAL WITH THE PROPERTY SUCH AS THE ONE WE JUST CLOSED FOR, UH, THE, UH, CARMAX PROJECT, UH, THAT WAS SEVEN TO EIGHT ACRES THAT WE HAD TO MANAGE BOTH FROM, UH, UH, CODE ENFORCEMENT TO POLICE, TO, UH, TO CLEAN UP ANYWHERE FROM A HUNDRED TO $150,000 A YEAR OF ATTENTION TO THE PROPERTY.
NOW THAT HAS BECOME A, A PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT AND WILL INFUSE UPON DEVELOPMENT 1 MILLION TO $1.2 MILLION IN TAX REVENUE.
SO ALL OF THESE PIECES ARE KIND OF INEXTRICABLY LINKED.
AND SO AS, AS WE MAY NOT COVER EVERYTHING THAT THIS PROVIDES, BUT, UH, THE CONCEPT IS THAT THE CONCEPT IS REALLY HOW, HOW THESE ACTIVITIES WE DO NOT ONLY PROVIDE GRADE SERVICES, BUT ALSO PAY OFF IN THE FUTURE AND RELIEVE US OF THE BURDEN AND LIABILITY, ONGOING BURDEN AND LIABILITY.
UM, GOING ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE, UH, WE HAVE, UH, OUR DEPARTMENT OPERATIONS CONSISTING OF THE BUILDING DIVISION, WHICH IS, UH, BUILDING, UH, PERMITS AND INSPECTIONS, HOUSING AUTHORITY SECTION EIGHT HOUSING PROGRAMS, REAL ESTATE, AND A MISCELLANEOUS SORT OF OTHER THINGS THAT WE DO, UH, FOR THE CITY UNDER THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, UH, WHICH IS PROPERTY BASED.
OUR NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES DIVISION, WHICH IS PARKING ENFORCEMENT, CODE ENFORCEMENT, AND HANDLES, UH, TEMPORARY USE PERMITS, AND OF COURSE, OUR PLANNING DIVISION DOING PLANNING, ADVANCED PLANNING, AND, UH, OUR, UH, CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS, UH, REALLY THE GIST.
UM, AND THROUGH THE, THE SENSE OF FULL COST RECOVERY, WE'VE REALLY LOOKED AT OUR BUDGETS TO FIGURE OUT, UM, WHERE TO, WHERE, WHERE, WHERE TO TRIM, WHERE WE CAN, BUT WITHOUT HURTING OUR ABILITY TO PERFORM.
SO, UH, THIS YEAR, UH, WE'VE KIND OF FIGURED OUT OUR, UH, WE WENT OUT TO OUR FP WITH OUR, UM, OUR PLAN REVIEW CONTRACTS.
IT'S BENEFITED NOT ONLY BUILDING BUT FIRE BECAUSE WE COORDINATED THAT EFFORT.
UH, AND IN SO DOING, WE'RE SAVING ABOUT 200,000.
SO WE HAVE A $200,000 REDUCTION IN THAT BUDGET.
WE'RE TRYING TO LEVERAGE TECHNOLOGY AND USE STAFF RESOURCES AS EFFECTIVELY AS WE CAN.
UH, WE'VE GOT A, A, A NEW SYSTEM, AN INSPECTION TRACKING SYSTEM THAT'S WORKED OUT GREAT.
IT SAVES US ON THE ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS AND THE, AND THE DESK TIME FOR INSPECTORS.
UH, WE'VE ASKED, UM, AS PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE LIST YOU, YOU RECEIVED, WE'VE ASKED FOR AN ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT POSITION, WHICH IS CURRENTLY BEING PAID THROUGH A CONTRACT THAT'S, UH, GONNA BE AN ONGOING, UH, SAVINGS ABOUT 35 TO 40% FOR THE CITY AND, UH, LABOR COSTS OR CONTRACT COSTS.
UH, AND WE CONTINUE TO STREAMLINE, UH, THE WAY WE RETAIN AND, AND PRODUCE PLANS LOOKING AT EFFICIENCIES AND ELECTRONIC DELIVERY, ET CETERA.
UH, THE TEAM REALLY IN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT HAS WORKED HARD TO CREATE A VERY, UH, A GREAT SENSE OF CUSTOMER SERVICE AND, AND BEING THERE FOR EVERY PROJECT.
UH, WE'RE NOW EXPLORING, UM, OPTIONS TO PROVIDE, UM, EXPEDITED SERVICES, UH, AND HOW WE COORDINATE, UH, AND, UH, OUR CITY MANAGER WILL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT.
BUT REALLY, UH, WE'VE GOTTA FIGURE OUT A WAY, UM, FOR DEVELOPERS, TIME IS MONEY AND, UH, THE MORE WE, UH, WE HOLD ON TO THEIR PLAN SETS, THE, THE, THE LESS COMMUNICATE EFF EFFICIENT COMMUNICATION WE HAVE THE, UM, THE LESS OF A CHANCES FOR THEM TO HAVE THEIR PROJECT INEFFICIENT.
SO WE HAVE TO BE VERY SENSITIVE
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ABOUT THE TYPE OF RISK THEY'RE TAKING AND COMING INTO, UM, TO DEVELOPMENT.SO, UM, THAT COVERS BOTH BUILDING AND PLANNING.
UM, ON THE, ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES SIDE, AGAIN, UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT WAYS TO, UH, MAKE SURE WE, UH, LEVERAGE OUR EMPLOYEES FOR ALL THE PROGRAMS, UH, THAT THEY'RE NOW, UH, IN CHARGE OF WITH THE CITY COUNCIL IS, UH, HAS DIRECTED US TO, UH, DEVELOP A TOBACCO RE RETAIL LICENSE PROGRAM.
WE NEED SOME CAPACITY ON THE GROUND FLOOR FOR THAT.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT TAKING A PART-TIME POSITION AND MAKING A FULL-TIME, UH, CODE ENFORCEMENT, UH, OUT OF THAT.
UH, WITH REGARDS TO PARKING ENFORCEMENT, WE ALSO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, ESPECIALLY IN UPCOMING PARKING DISTRICTS, AND SO WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE CAPACITY, UH, TO PROVIDE MORE PARKING OPPORTUNITIES.
UH, AND THIS IS THE WAY TO DO IT.
SO IT, IT, IT, IT ALL, IT COMES OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND.
IT PAYS, UH, FOR ITSELF, UH, THROUGH REVENUE, THROUGH THE PARKING, UH, REVENUE.
UM, WE'RE ALSO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN VERY, VERY AGGRESSIVE WITH GRANTS.
UM, THE, THE GENERAL FUND, UH, HAS NOT PAID ANY SIGNIFICANT PLANNING PROCESS.
WE'VE GONE OUT TO, UM, TO, UH, GRANTS FOR THE GENERAL FUND, UH, GENERAL FUND, THE, UH, GENERAL PLAN UPDATE THAT WE DID IN RECENT YEARS.
THAT WAS OVER 2.2 MILLION OF OUTSIDE MONIES THAT PAID FOR THAT ENTIRE PROCESS THIS YEAR.
THE HOUSING TEAM, UH, UH, WENT AFTER, UH, HOUSING GRANT THROUGH SANDAG, WHICH PAID FOR SETTING UP THE OWN NATIONAL CITY PROGRAM.
AND WE'VE LEARNED AN ABUNDANCE ABOUT THE ECONOMICS OF OUR PROPERTIES AND HOW TO LEVERAGE THAT INTO THE UPCOMING RFP RESPONSE.
UM, WE, UH, THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, UH, IS DOING WELL IN TERMS OF THE PROJECTS AND THE REVENUE THAT'S BUILT IN TO COME BACK TO IT.
SO MUCH SO THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE RELIEVING THIS.
THE GENERAL FUND OF OUR TWO, UM, UH, HOME TEAM OFFICERS, WE'RE PRETTY CONFIDENT THERE'S FUNDING ON THE WAY TO PAY FOR THAT SIX TO 8 MILLION.
WE'RE DOING A WHOLE BUNCH OF PROGRAMMING AND BRINGING IN ALL KINDS OF MONEY TO THE CITY.
AND, UH, WE, THE, THE APPROPRIATE CAPACITY NEEDS TO BE IN PLACE.
I'M, I'M, I'M FORFEITING AN EXECUTIVE SECRETARY SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A, UH, ADDITIONAL CAPACITY AS A CDS TWO, ALL OF THIS IS NOT FUNDED BY THE GENERAL FUND AND HAS PAID DIVIDENDS IN THE RECENT PAST.
AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
UH, WE ALSO URGE, AND, UH, SCOTT WILL TALK MORE ABOUT THIS IN TERMS OF CREATING A STRATEGIC INVESTMENT, UH, ENTERPRISE FUND.
UH, SO WE CAN ACTUALLY SPEND SOME DOLLARS TO, TO BE SMART ABOUT HOW WE MOVE, UH, CITY PROPERTIES FORWARD, THOSE THAT HAVE, UH, A LOT OF COMMERCIAL POTENTIAL.
WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE HAVE IN HAND AND HOW THAT COULD BE LEVERAGED IN THE FUTURE.
I CAN TAKE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
HOW ABOUT DON'T YOU DESCRIBE MORE ABOUT THIS STRATEGIC DEVELOPMENT CONCEPT, SINCE YOU'RE ON A ROLL.
SO, UH, THE CITY HAS, UH, A, A NUMBER OF, OF, UH, COMMERCIAL, COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, UH, UM, UH, EITHER THROUGH THE SUCCESSOR AGENCY, UH, MOST IMPORTANTLY BAY MARINA, BUT ALSO, UH, ALONG THE MILE OF CARS CORRIDOR, UH, WE CALL IT THE RCP BRICK SITE.
UH, THESE, THESE PROPERTIES, UH, COULD GENERATE, UH, SIGNIFICANT REVENUES TO THE CITY IF APPROPRIATELY DEVELOPED.
UH, WE'RE SITTING ON, ON A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT CAMPUS HERE AT, UM, UH, AT CITY HALL WHERE WE MAY NEED TO CONSIDER KIND OF HOW TO REFRAME THIS.
IT'S DEFINITELY LIVED, UH, OUTLIVED ITS USEFUL LIFE, AND IT'S GETTING COSTLIER AND COSTLIER TO MAINTAIN AND OPERATE IT.
AND SO IF WE'RE TO LOOK AT A, A FIVE YEAR DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM, WE'VE GOTTA LOOK AT A WAY TO CAPITALIZE IN THE SAME WAY THAT, UH, WE'VE DONE WITH, UH, HOUSING PROJECTS.
WE SHOULD LOOK AT THE, UH, AT CITY FACILITIES TO DO, UH, MORE THAN JUST, UM, OPERATIONAL COMPONENTS.
YOU KNOW, I'VE TALKED TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ABOUT OTHER PROPERTIES WHERE, UM, WE COULD COLLABORATE AND POTENTIALLY CREATE FIRE FACILITIES, HOUSING AND OTHER OFFICE RETAIL SPACE, HOUSING, WHATEVER, WHATEVER IT, UH, THE MIX COULD BE.
AND, AND KIND OF JOINTLY LOOK AT, UH, FINANCING OPPORTUNITIES SO THAT, UH, WE NOT ONLY CREATE PRIVATE, UH, PUBLIC PARTNERSHIPS, BUT WE ARE, UH, UH, RECEIVING RESIDUAL REVENUES FROM GROUND LEASES.
FOR INSTANCE, ON THE, UM, UH, ON THE, OUR PRO ON OUR PROPERTY, UH, WHERE WE DEVELOPED THE, UH, KIMBALL HIGHLAND PROJECT, THE KIMBALL HIGHLAND WEST PROJECT, IT'S NOT ONLY GONNA
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PAY BACK THE LOAN THAT WE, UH, THAT WE PROVIDED FOR THE DEVELOPMENT, APPROXIMATELY $11 MILLION, BUT THERE IS ALSO A GROUND LEASE OF $3 MILLION THAT'LL BE GIVEN RESIDUAL RECEIPTS TO, UH, THE CITY AND HOUSING AUTHORITY, UH, OVER TIME.UH, SO WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT HOW WE CAN STRUCTURE, UH, DEVELOPMENT OF THESE PROPERTIES TO, TO MAXIMIZE THE USE.
AND WE, AND WE DON'T WANNA MISS OPPORTUNITIES BY ASSUMING THAT A CERTAIN TYPE OF LIMITED PRODUCT IS, UH, ABLE TO BE BUILT.
WE'VE GOTTA BE AGGRESSIVE ABOUT WHAT KIND OF COMBINATION OF USES AND FINANCING WE CAN USE, UH, ON, ON SITE, SUCH AS BAY MARINA, SO THAT, UH, THE CITY IS ABLE TO CAPITALIZE OVER TIME.
DOES THAT EXPLAIN IT, SCOTT? SO, SO IN, IN THIS AREA, WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE THIS EXPERTISE EMBEDDED IN STAFF.
AND SO WE HAVE SOME, BUT, UH, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, AND IT JUST POPPED UP IN THIS SLIDE, I REALLY DIDN'T HAVE A SLIDE IN, IN MY AREA THAT ENUMERATED WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT.
BUT, UM, CURRENTLY WE HAVE A, UM, A SMALL AGREEMENT, WHICH WE'RE GONNA COME BACK LATER IF, IF WE HEAR CONSENSUS ON COUNCILS, UH, PART.
BUT WE, UM, WE HAVE HIRED, UM, LIGHTS, I THINK IT'S CALLED LIGHTHOUSE.
IT'S BASICALLY, UH, SEAN, UH, SUMNER, WHO IS THE PORTS REAL ESTATE, UM, VICE PRESIDENT, AND HE'S WORKING WITH US ON, UH, PORT PROPERTY ITEMS AS WELL AS CITY PROPERTY.
WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING AN ASSET, UM, MANAGEMENT PLAN FOR ALL CITY PROPERTIES AND TAKING IT FROM KIND OF THE CONVENTIONAL GOVERNMENT THOUGHT PROCESS TO MORE OF A, UH, BUSINESS MINDED PROCESS OF HOW TO, UH, UTILIZE OUR PROPERTIES.
WE'RE THE BIGGEST PROPERTY OWNER IN THE CITY.
UM, OUR PROPERTY IS SIGNIFICANTLY UNDERUTILIZED, BUT I DON'T MEAN TO SAY IT NEEDS TO BE OVERUTILIZED EITHER.
SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO FIND IS TO BRING FORWARD, UH, SOME MODELS AND CONCEPTS OF WHAT, UH, WOULD GENERATE REVENUE FOR US.
AND THEN WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING FOR THE COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY TO KIND OF HELP US FRAME, OKAY, WHAT'S THE RIGHT FIT FOR NATIONAL CITY.
UM, BUT IN ORDER TO DO THAT, THIS IS SEED MONEY HERE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
AND SO IT'S NOT JUST WITH SEAN.
UH, WE USE COSMAL TO DEAL WITH THE PORT.
THEY ARE ALSO A FIRM THAT, UH, CAN DO A LOT OF, UM, INVESTMENT PROPERTY, UH, REFURBISHMENT PROPERTY, UH, TURNOVER, AND DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE NEED AS TOOLS TO EVALUATE OUR OWN PROPERTY.
AND SOME OF THAT WILL ALSO HELP US TO EVALUATE SOME OF OUR COMMERCIAL AREAS TO SEE WHAT THE RIGHT FIT IS, UH, IN TODAY'S ECONOMY TO GENERATE DEVELOPMENT.
UM, BECAUSE WE'VE DONE SOME WORK AND WE HAVE SOME DEVELOPMENT, WE'RE, I THINK WE'RE THE BEST DEVELOPMENT IN SAN DIEGO WHEN IT COMES TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
I MEAN, WE HAVE IT DOWN PER CAPITA BETTER THAN ANY CITY I KNOW OF.
AND WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS TAKE THAT SAME EXPERTISE, BUILD ON IT, AND START DOING IT FOR OUR OWN PROPERTY AND START DOING IT FOR MARKET RATE HOUSING AND OTHER OPPORTUNITIES.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE IDEA OF TRYING TO BUILD OUR WAY INTO, UH, REVITALIZING OUR COMMUNITY AND GENERATING REVENUE AND HOPEFULLY ENHANCING PROGRAMS OUT OF THAT.
SO, UM, AND THAT TAKES SOME WORK.
SO THIS IS THE WHAT, WHAT BOTH, UH, CARLOS AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT.
WELL, WHAT'S THE SEED MONEY THAT WE NEED TO DO THAT TO GET IT ROLLING, TO BE ABLE TO BRING THE CONCEPTS TO YOU, UM, AND MAYBE EVEN A, A PROJECT OR TWO THAT, UH, WE CAN MODEL AND THIS IS THE INVESTMENT THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
SO, UM, I THINK THAT'S, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR, FOR US ON THAT OR HIS BUDGET AREA, UH, WE'RE FREE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, UM, CARLOS, FOR YOUR, UM, FOR YOUR, UH, PRESENTATION.
UM, WE GO WITH YOUR FIRST, UM, UM, SLIDE, UM, UNDER BUILDING AND PLANNING GO.
SO, UM, I, I, I AM PLEASED TO SEE THOSE, UM, THE RESTRUCTURING THAT YOU ARE PLANNING TO, UM, TO MOVE FORWARD WITH.
UM, I THINK TWO MEETINGS AGO, AND I, I SEE THIS BECAUSE, UM, IN THE PAST, UM,
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REVENUE GENERATING PER DEPARTMENT, UM, YOU'RE ONE THAT GENERATES SOME MONEY, IF NOT A LOT, RIGHT? IN THE, IN THE REPORT IT SAYS YOU ARE GONNA GENERATE FOR THIS YEAR, 1.2, BUT REMEMBER, YOU CAME TO US AND APPROVED THREE CONTRACTORS, THREE CONSULTANTS.SO WE'RE UNDER A HUNDRED THOUSAND ALREADY.
OH, THAT'S JUST A NOT TO EXCEED.
UH, WE'RE, UH, SAVING SOME MONEY WITH THIS ADMINISTRATIVE POSITION, WHICH IS PAID FOR BY THAT 600,000 MM-HMM
SO IF WE'RE THINKING BIG, IF WE'RE GONNA GO AND DEVELOP A MARINA, IF WE'RE GONNA GO DEVELOP ALL THESE OTHER PROPERTIES, WE'RE GONNA NEED SOME RECOURSE IN THE FUTURE.
BUT WE NEED TO PREPARE, SO WE NEED THE CONTRACTUAL CAPACITY TO BE ABLE TO TAKE ON THOSE BIGGER PROJECTS.
UM, WHEN YOU SAY IMPROVED SYSTEM TO HANDLE INSPECTION REQUESTS, IS THE, ARE THESE THE, UH, BUILDING INSPECTIONS THAT WE DO? UH, THAT IS CORRECT.
AND THEN, UH, FOR THE RE STREAMLINE RETENTION PROCESS FOR PLANS, THE QUICK TURNAROUND, WHAT, WHAT DO YOU SAY ABOUT THAT? WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THIS STREAMLINE? YEAH, SO, UH, PART OF IT, UH, WE, WE ARE, WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY TAKING AN IN-DEPTH APPROACH AS TO HOW PLANS COME THROUGH.
UH, NOT ONLY OUR DEPARTMENT, BUT HOW WE COLLABORATE WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
UM, WE'VE GOT SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON IT, BUT, UH, IT'S BASICALLY LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN FAST TRACK THINGS AND HOW WE CAN, UH, MANAGE THE PROCESS SO WE DON'T LOSE COMMUNICATION, NOT ONLY BETWEEN DEPARTMENTS, BUT ALSO WITH, WITH THE DEVELOPMENT ENTITY.
'CAUSE A LOT OF STUFF, UH, MAY FALL THROUGH THE CRACKS, UH, CRACKS JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T, WE WE'RE NOT ON BALL WITH, WITH THE PROJECT.
AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE A SYSTEM, NOT ONLY AN EXPEDITE SYSTEM, BUT ALSO LOOKING AT WAYS SO THAT, UM, WE ARE ABSOLUTELY AWARE OF, OF OUR, OUR, OF OUR PROJECT PIPELINE AND UNDERSTANDING THE TIMELINES FOR THOSE PROJECTS.
BECAUSE IT TRADITIONALLY, AND THIS IS NOT JUST PART OF WHAT WE DO, BUT WHAT DEFINITELY WHAT SEEMS TO HAPPEN, UH, IN, IN, IN, IN MOST SITUATIONS IS THAT IT'S DEVELOPER DRIVEN.
SO IT'S WHENEVER THEY COME AND ASK QUESTIONS OR, OR, OR, OR, UM, OR, OR, OR COME TO, TO FOLLOW UP ON THEIR PERMITS.
AND SO IF, IF THERE IS A WAY OR SYSTEMIC, UM, UH, APPROACH THAT WE CAN TAKE TO BE MORE PROACTIVE, TO STAY ON THE BALL, WHERE WHEN WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS, YOU AND I HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT PROJECTS, AND ONCE WE ADDRESS THE ISSUE, IT JUST, IT KIND OF RELEASES A PROJECT TO MOVE FORWARD.
AND SO WE'VE GOTTA BE MORE AWARE OF WHERE PROJECTS ARE, WHAT THE CHALLENGES ARE, AND BE ABLE TO MEET THEM WHERE THEY'RE AT.
AND I THINK THERE'S SOME, UH, SYSTEMIC, UM, REVISIONS WE CAN MAKE AND SOME INTER DEPARTMENTAL CAPACITIES WE CAN BUILD SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE STREAMLINE THE PROJECTS APPROPRIATELY.
TWO YEARS AGO DURING THE STRATEGIC PLANNING MEETING THAT WE HAD OVER AT THE LIBRARY, YEP.
UH, THE PERMIT, PERMIT PROCESS WAS ONE OF YOUR HIGHEST PRIORITIES.
AND SO, UM, IN THAT TWO YEAR PERIOD, UM, THERE'S BEEN A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE, I WOULD SAY DOWNSTAIRS TWO YEARS AGO, UM, WITH NO JAB IN ANYBODY, UH, THE FIRE AREA WAS THE MOST EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT PLAN MOVER, UH, BUILDING AND PLANNING WAS UNDERSTAFFED, HAD A BUNCH OF ISSUES GOING ON IN ENGINEERING, AND STEVE'S PRESENTED TO YOU SOME IDEAS ABOUT, UH, HOW TO STEP UP A LITTLE BIT MORE IN ENGINEERING.
AND WITH THAT, I THINK WE'RE AT A GOOD, WHAT I WOULD SAY, AVERAGE CITY PACE.
WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO THOUGH, IS GO BEYOND THAT.
WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE PEOPLE WANNA DEVELOP HERE, OUR OWN, OUR OWN RESIDENTS SEE A QUICKER TURNAROUND TIME.
AND THE OTHER PART OF THAT IS IF WE DO GET MORE DEVELOPMENT, WE NEED TO BE PREPARED FOR THAT.
UH, BIGGER DEVELOPMENT IS WAY MORE COMPLEX IF WE DON'T HAVE A GOOD SYSTEM IN PLACE.
AND SO STEVE'S TALKED ABOUT THE ACCOUNTING SYSTEM, SO WE CAN TRACK OUR TIME.
WE ALSO NEED TO MOVE TOWARDS ELECTRONICALLY TAKING ON PLANS.
UH, THE MARKET, UH, THE INDUSTRY DEVELOPS THEIR PLANS IN CAD,
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IT'S ELECTRONIC DIGITAL FORMAT.UM, WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO DO WHAT SOME OTHER CITIES HAVE ALREADY BEEN DOING FOR QUITE A WHILE IS TAKE THAT ON ELECTRONICALLY.
SO THERE'S THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO, UH, ADVANCE THE PROCESS AND MAKE IT QUICKER.
UM, IT WILL ALLOW US TO STORE INFORMATION MORE EFFECTIVELY.
RIGHT NOW, UH, WE TAKE IN PAPER PLANS, THEN WE HAVE TO GO AND GET 'EM DIGITIZED.
AND SO WE, WE'RE GONNA TAKE ADVANTAGE OF A LOT OF THE TECHNOLOGY THAT'S OUT THERE, BUT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS BUILD THE STAFF UP TO MEET CURRENT DEMAND AND BE HIGHLY EFFICIENT.
THEN SIMULTANEOUSLY LOOKING AT HOW DO WE, UH, ENHANCE OUR, UM, DIGITAL PROCESS, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD.
AND, UM, BRUCE INDICATED, UH, PART OF THAT IS, IS HIS DEPARTMENT BRINGING ON THE DIFFERENT STAGES OF THE MUNI SYSTEM AND THE PLATFORMS THAT ALLOW US TO BE MORE EFFECTIVE.
UM, WHEN THOSE COME ON BOARD, THEN WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO FREE UP TIME WHEN, UH, THINGS LIKE WHAT STEVE SAYS, IF WE'RE DOING IT IN PAPER, AND THEN IT'S GOTTA GO TO ANOTHER PERSON IN PAPER AND THEN IT GETS PUT IN THE SYSTEM.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT I DID BACK IN THE NINETIES, YOU KNOW, SO WE NEED TO GET OUT OF THAT AND GET INTO THE MODERN DAY.
WE WANT TO TRY TO PUT AS MUCH OF OUR ACTIVITY OUT WHERE OUR CUSTOMERS ARE USING IT, WHICH IS OUT ON THE INTERNET'S IN THE CLOUD, SOCIAL MEDIA, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS WE CAN DO IN THAT AREA THAT'S GONNA MAKE THINGS MORE EFFICIENTLY.
UH, WE'RE ALREADY IN THAT A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE NEED TO GO FURTHER.
AND, UM, SO THAT'S JUST MY BUILDING ON WHAT YOU HEARD THERE.
I HEARD SOCIAL MEDIA
UM, DIRECTOR, YOU SAID HERE IN YOUR REPORT, ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT POSITION, YOU'RE REQUESTING FOR A ONE 50, RIGHT? BECAUSE NOW IT'S COSTING YOU MORE, YOU SAID BY HAVING A CONTRACT THROUGH THE CONTRACT.
SO DID YOU HAVE, UH, DID YOU HAVE A, UH, LIKE A COST ANALYSIS ON WHAT WILL BE ONE FDE AND WHAT, HOW MUCH WILL THAT IMPACT OUR CALPERS TOO? OKAY.
SO THAT, THAT'S, UM, THAT'S GOOD.
AND THEN I'M GONNA GO BACK TO DOWN TO YOUR, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES HOUSING.
YOU SAID THAT YOU ARE WANTING TO DO A FULL-TIME FOR ONE PART-TIME.
UM, YOU MEAN TOBACCO DISPOSITION, RIGHT? AND THAT WILL COME FROM THE GENERAL FUND, CORRECT, SIR? THAT'S CORRECT.
BUT IT'S GONNA BE OFFSET BY THE, UH, LICENSE REGISTRATION COSTS FROM THE TOBACCO RETAIL LICENSE PROGRAM.
SO IT'S GONNA BE COST NEUTRAL, BUDGET NEUTRAL? CORRECT.
UH, ONE PARKING ENFORCEMENT THAT WILL ALSO BE, UH, SUBSIDIZED BY YOUR, UH, PARKING NO SUBSIDY.
UH, THE, THE POSITION BEING CONSIDERED IS VERY EFFECTIVE.
IN FACT, IT, UH, IS PAYING, UH, FOUR TIMES AS MUCH AS WHAT IT COST US TO RUN.
UH, AND AGAIN, IT'S REALLY ABOUT FOCUSING IN COMMERCIAL AREAS WHERE WE NEED THE PARKING MOST.
UH, WHICH IS THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
AND AROUND HIGHLAND, ET CETERA, WHERE BUSINESSES WILL BENEFIT FROM FREE, FROM FREE UP PARKING.
SO IS IT BUDGETED ALREADY, SIR? OR THIS IS NOT YET? NO, THIS IS WHY WE'RE ASKING TO, OKAY.
SO NOT YET, IT'S NOT IN THE BUDGET YET.
WE, WE'VE GOT SOME UNDER THE PART-TIME BUDGET, BUT WE WANNA MAKE IT A FULL-TIME POSITION.
OH, THIS PARKING ENFORCEMENT, YOU HAVE A 0.5 ALREADY THAT'S BUDGETED, CORRECT? CORRECT.
SO WE JUST NEED 0.5 HERE? CORRECT.
YEAH, I KNOW WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE BUDGET RIGHT NOW, SIR.
SO IT, THIS IS GOING TO, WILL THIS, WILL THIS POSITION BE SUBSIDIZED BY THE HOME TEAM BUDGET? UH, NO.
SO IT, THE POSITION I, UH, WE ARE, UH, WE, WE ARE PUTTING IT UNDER THE, UM, WHAT IS ESSENTIALLY THE HOUSING ENTERPRISE FUND, WHICH IS 5 0 1 INSTEAD OF THE GENERAL FUND.
SO THIS YEAR WE'RE PUTTING THOSE TWO POSITIONS WITH, THEY'VE BEEN, OUR HOME TEAM HAS BEEN EXTREMELY EFFECTIVE ON THE STREETS.
THIS YEAR WE'VE REDUCED HOMELESSNESS BY 20%.
I'M SURE YOU CAN TELL THE DIFFERENCE.
AND WE'RE NOT LIKE OTHER CITIES AT THE POINT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SOME ISSUES ON THE CALTRANS RIGHT OF WAY, BUT THAT'S BEYOND US.
BUT IN, IN, IN, IN, FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES, WE'VE, WE'VE GOT A 20% REDUCTION.
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TO MAKE SURE THAT WE RETAIN OUR TALENT, UH, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S WORKING OUT IN THAT WAY FOR US.SO THIS CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER ONE TO TWO, AND THE CDS TWO TO THREE WILL BE UNDER THIS STRATEGIC WILL GO, WILL, WILL GO INTO THAT.
IT'S NOT GONNA BE A HOME TEAM ANYMORE? THAT'S CORRECT.
IT'S GONNA BE, IT'S GONNA BE UNDER THAT.
IT'LL STILL BE MANAGED BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES DIVISION, UHHUH
BUT WE, THE HOUSING AUTHORITY WILL BE FUNDING THOSE POSITIONS.
AND THEN YOU'RE ASKING FOR SEED MONEY TWO 50 K FOR THIS? THAT IS CORRECT.
UH, YOU SAID THE, THE HOME TEAM? NO, YOU SAID, UH, THE HOUSING AUTHORITY IS GOING TO BE FUNDING THAT POSITION, UM, CURRENTLY FUNDED BY THE GENERAL FUND, YEAH.
I WAS CONFUSING IT WITH APPLYING FOR THE SIX TO $8 MILLION ENCAMPMENT, RESOLUTE.
THAT'S THE RIGHT, SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS THERE, THERE'S ADDITIONAL LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL.
WE'RE PROACTIVELY GOING AFTER FUNDING.
WE LEARNED SO MUCH FROM THE FIRST ROUND, AND THIS MAY EVEN BRING ADMINISTRATIVE DOLLARS TO THE CITY WITH REGARDS TO, TO, UH, OPERATING THAT AS WELL AS, UH, BENEFITS TO OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
SO, UH, WE, WE, WE, WE ARE MAKING THE COMMITMENT TO COVER IT, UH, THE HOME TEAM THIS YEAR AND RELIEVE THE GENERAL FUND, UH, ABOUT $250,000 OF, OF STAFF COST.
BUT WE WE'RE, WE'RE WELL AWARE WE'VE GOT ANOTHER OPIOID CONTRACT AND JUST A PLETHORA OF OTHER DIFFERENT HOMELESSNESS INITIATIVES THAT ARE COMING UP THAT WE NEED TO CAPITALIZE ON.
UH, BUT THERE, WE WE'RE DOING THIS BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT WE CAN, WE CAN OFFSET THE COST INTO THE FUTURE.
SO, SO THANK YOU, UH, CARLOS, AWESOME JOB.
AND, UM, ON THE CUTTING MEASURES, AND THANK YOU FOR RESPONDING ABOUT THE CONSULTANT BUDGET.
'CAUSE I KNOW WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT A LOT A LONG TIME, SO THANK YOU FOR RESPONSIVENESS THERE.
UM, ON THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER FROM ONE TO TWO, I, I, I REALLY LIKE YOU BRINGING IT INTO THE HOUSING AUTHORITY FUND.
WHAT, SO WHAT I'M JUST NOT, THAT DOESN'T REALLY HAVE ANY NET IMPACT ON OUR OVERALL BUDGET.
SO, UM, YEAH, I IS THROUGH THIS BUDGET, IS THERE ANY CONVERSATION ABOUT ACTUALLY INCREASING THE AMOUNT OF HOME, UH, THE, THE HOME TEAM? BECAUSE I, I DO THINK THEY'VE BEEN REALLY EFFECTIVE.
UH, I'VE HEARD FROM A, A COUPLE OF CONSTITUENTS, SOME IDEAS ON MAYBE SOME EFFICIENCIES AND SOME IMPROVED COMMUNICATION AND ALL OF THAT I THINK IS SOME OPERATIONAL ISSUES THAT COULD BE WORKED OUT.
BUT OVERALL, I'VE HEARD THEY'VE DONE REALLY WELL.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT OUR, THEY WORK REALLY CLOSELY WITH OUR POLICE, AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF, UH, UH, UH, CHIEF FERNANDEZ, IF, IF YOU HAD, UM, ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ON THE HOME TEAM OR THOUGHTS, BUT, UH, I, I WOULD THINK THAT ACTUALLY HELPS YOUR POLICE AND YOUR OFFICERS FOR SOME OF THE OVERTIME AND THE RESPONSES.
SO I, I'M, I'M JUST SAYING, I KNOW WE HAVE TO BE BUDGET CONSCIOUS, BUT I WOULD ALSO BE OPEN TO EVEN, UM, ENHANCING THAT BECAUSE I'VE TALKED TO THE HOME TEAM AND THEY'RE, I MEAN, THEY KIND OF, WITH THEIR, WITH THEIR TWO THERE, THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH.
THEY'RE ALMOST LIKE CASE LIKE SOCIAL WORKERS IN, IN CASEWORK.
AND I KNOW, LIKE, BECAUSE I HAVE THE SHELTER IN MY DISTRICT RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO ME.
SO THEY, THEY'VE BEEN REALLY ON TOP OF IT.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CARLOS OR YOU ALEX HAVE LIKE, UH, THOUGHTS ON THE HOME TEAM.
I THE CHIEF COMMON FIRST, AND THEN I'LL HAVE A FOLLOW UP COMMENT FOR THAT.
THE, UH, THE CHALLENGE THAT WE SOMETIMES HAVE WITH THEM IS IF THEY'RE GONNA GO INTO AN AREA WHERE IT, IT'S NOT A SAFE ENVIRONMENT.
SO WE DO HAVE TO COMMIT POLICE OFFICERS TO, BUT YOU DO THAT PRETTY OFTEN, RIGHT? CORRECT.
THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE, UH, CARLOS WAS GOING AFTER A REALLY, UH, REALLY COOL GRANT, AND HE COULD PROBABLY TALK ABOUT THAT.
BUT WE ALSO WERE USING THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH TEAM TO DO THAT, ESPECIALLY IN CLEANUPS OR WHEN THEY WANTED TO TALK TO PEOPLE.
SO, UH, THEY OPEN UP AND THEY MAKE OUR OFFICERS MORE AVAILABLE TO HANDLE OTHER CALLS BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT QUALITY OF LIFE CASES.
SO IT DOES ALLOW OUR OFFICERS TO RESPOND TO OTHER CALLS IN THE COMMUNITY.
SO, UH, WHAT WHAT WHAT WE'VE DONE OVER TIME IS WE'RE LEARNING TO STAY AWAY FROM THE DEEPER CASE MANAGEMENT.
THEY DO KIND OF, THEY, THEY DO SERVE A PURPOSE IN TERMS OF COORDINATING SERVICES COMING TO SITE.
BUT, UH, WHAT'S HAPPENED OVER TIME IS THAT WE'VE CREATED VERY STRONG PARTNERSHIPS WITH DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS THAT CAN ACTUALLY DO THE DEEPER CASE MANAGEMENT.
NAMI HAS, UH, A GRANT, FOR INSTANCE, UH, AN ORGANIZATION THAT WE WORK WITH HAS A GRANT TO, THEY HAVE A MOBILE, UH, A MOBILE, UM, A STATION, A VAN FOR WHICH THEY CAN COORDINATE OUTREACH FOR,
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AND THEY'VE GOT RESOURCES TO BEDS, ET CETERA.AND SO WE'RE LEARNING, UH, TO CAPITALIZE ON PARTNERSHIPS IN THE HOMELESS ARENA SO THAT THEY'RE NOT DOING THE DIRECT WORK OF ACTUALLY CASE MANAGING AND DOING MORE OF THE COORDINATION BETWEEN PD OTHER DEPARTMENTS AND, AND LEVERAGING THEMSELVES TO BE MORE EFFECTIVE.
SO I, I, I THINK IT'S AN EVOLUTION AND WE'RE GETTING THERE.
AND THEN THE 250,000 FOR DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES, THAT WAS GENERAL FUND, UH, THAT WOULD BE GENERAL FUND.
WE'RE GONNA KEEP TRACK OF THAT FUNDING.
WE EXPECT IT, UH, OVER TIME TO MAKE MONEY.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S GONNA GET LOST IN A BLACK HOLE.
WE'RE GOING TO KEEP ACT ADEQUATE TRACK WHEN WE COMMIT MONIES AND WE'LL COME BACK TO REPORT TO THE CITY COUNCIL AS AN ENTERPRISE FUND AS TO HOW THE FUNDS ARE USED AND WE'LL BE LEVERAGED AND WHAT THE, UH, POTENTIAL, UH, RETURN IS AND THE RISKS ARE AND THE OPPORTUNITIES OF COURSE.
SO, UH, OVER WHAT PERIOD OF TIME, ONE OR TWO YEARS, THIS 250,000, THIS COULD BE ONGOING AND DEPENDING ON HOW IT'S INVESTED, COULD BE REPLENISHED OR GROWN, ET CETERA.
BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE APPROPRIATE SEED FUNDING SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY START REALISTICALLY LOOKING AT, UH, PROJECTS ON OUR SITES.
IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE FOR US TO HAVE, UH, THESE RE OR THE LAND RESOURCE AVAILABLE IF WE'RE NOT REALLY LOOKING AT A, A FULL SCOPE OF PROGRAM FOR EACH SITE.
WELL, I IS THE REASON I, I THINK THAT'S UP FRONT.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT, WE, WE NEED TO INVEST TO DO A BUNCH OF, UM, LIKE I SAID, THE ASSET MANAGEMENT PLAN.
THERE'S THINGS WE HAVE TO PUT TOGETHER, SOME OF WHICH WE'LL TRY TO DO AS MUCH IN-HOUSE, BUT TO GET THE EXPERTS TO WORK ON IT QUICK, EVERYTHING WE'RE LOOKING AT IS TRYING TO EXPEDITE THIS BECAUSE OF THE SITUATION WE'RE IN.
AND, AND I KNOW WE WANNA BE CAREFUL WITH CONSULTANTS.
I'M OPEN FOR CONSULTANTS ON MORE OF THIS KIND BECAUSE IT'S MORE ONE TIME.
AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES TOO, 'CAUSE I'M SEEING SOME NODDING HEADS OF SUPPORT THAT, UM, AGAIN, WE HAD A CONVERSATION EARLIER ABOUT ECONOMIC CONTINGENCY RESERVE AND I WONDER IF THIS WOULD BE, OH, OKAY.
SO THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE USE ONE TIME FOR THIS NEXT YEAR AS A PILOT, UM, IN THE ECONOMIC, UM, FROM THE ECONOMIC CONTINGENCY RESERVE INSTEAD OF THE GENERAL.
AND, AND A KEY POINT IS, WHETHER IT'S IN CLOSED SESSION OR OPEN SESSION IN TERMS OF REAL ESTATE NEGOTIATIONS, IS TO BRING YOU BACK THE DATA SO THAT WE MAXIMIZE THE INVESTMENT AND WE'RE NOT WASTING OPPORTUNITIES.
OKAY, MR. CHAIR, JUST A FOLLOW UP QUESTION.
UM, DIRECTOR, CAN YOU MONETIZE THE ONE, UM, FTE FOR ADMIN ASSISTANT WHEN YOU COME BACK WITH THIS ONE? OH, ABSOLUTELY.
AND THEN, AND THEN THE COST NEUTRAL AS WELL FOR, OH NO, THE 0.5% FOR THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER.
'CAUSE THE OTHER ONE IS COST NEUTRAL.
I, I ACTUALLY ECHO THE SAME SENTIMENTS, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO THE, UH, STRATEGIC INVESTMENT IN ENTERPRISE FUND FOR PRE-DEVELOPMENT.
UM, I ACTUALLY THINK THAT AMOUNT SHOULD BE HIGHER.
WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL PROVE THAT.
TWO 51ST AND THEN REPLENISH IT UPON SEEING RESULTS.
I CAN, CAN FEEL RON GRUMBLE AT THAT RIGHT NOW.
THE REASON I REASON I SAY THAT WE'RE MONEY TO SPEND EVERYWHERE WE HAVE IT MAYOR SAY, IS BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES THAT THE PRIVATE MARKET IS NOT, IT'S NOT INVESTING IN OUR CITY.
BUT, UM, ONE LONG-TERM INVESTMENT THAT SEEMS TO WORK OUT IN THIS COUNTRY IS REAL ESTATE AND OVER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME.
AND SO IF WE, AND WE HAVE AN AGENCY RIGHT NEXT TO US CALLED THE PORT THAT SEEMS TO BE DOING EXCEEDINGLY WELL BY LEASING LAND.
UM, WE SHOULD ALSO HAVE THAT ENTREPRENEURIAL APPROACH WHEN IT COMES TO DEVELOPING.
SO I, I, I WOULD EVEN BE SUPPORTIVE AND, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL MEMBER WAS MENTIONING TO ME, UTILIZING SOME OF OUR ECONOMIC CONTINGENCY RESERVE IN ORDER TO INVEST IN THIS MORE SO, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE INVESTING IN LAND THAT WILL BE, UH, DEVELOPING TO BRING IN REVENUE FOR THE CITY.
LET'S GO ON TO, UH, WE'RE INTO PAGE 26.
COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT.
I DIDN'T HAVE THE TUTORIAL FOR THE CLICKER.
I'M, I'M AN OLDER MODEL, SO JUST BEAR WITH ME.
WELL, WE'LL JUST, UH, UH, LESLIE IN PROGRESS.
GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE MAR AND COUNCIL.
UM, I'D LIKE TO START OFF IF I COULD, I'VE BEEN, UH, WORKING WITH THE CITY FOR 13 MONTHS NOW.
I'M ONE OF YOUR INTERIM, UH, COMMUNITY SERVICES DIRECTOR.
THE OTHER ONE, TRACY LAMB, IS ON THE EAST COAST RIGHT NOW.
AND I, I'M GONNA SEND HIM A THANK YOU CARD FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPERIENCE THIS ONE MORE TIME IN MY PROFESSIONAL CAREER.
SO, UM, I'D ALSO LIKE TO JUST SAY THANK YOU TO ALL THE DEPARTMENT
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HEADS AND TO SCOTT FOR THE TIME THAT I HAVE BEEN HERE.THESE FOLKS ARE FOCUSED, PASSIONATE PEOPLE WHO REALLY CARE ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY AND REALLY GO OUT OF THEIR WAY TO TRY TO HELP EACH ONE OF US BE SUCCESSFUL.
I'VE HAD A LOT OF THINGS THAT I'VE REALLY NEEDED HELP WITH.
'CAUSE I'M THE NEW KID ON THE BLOCK AND EVERYBODY'S PUT THEIR HAND UP WHEN I'VE ASKED FOR IT.
SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
UM, WE'VE, I'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME LISTENING TO THE TEAM 'CAUSE COMMUNICATION'S THE KEY.
AND SO OUR FRONTLINE FOLKS, AGAIN, I USE THE WORD PASSIONATE, BUT IT, IT IS, IT'S EVERYBODY I'VE INTERACTED WITH HAS, HAS REALLY FOCUSED ON TRYING TO DO THE BEST JOB THEY CAN TO PROVIDE RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE COMMUNITY.
YOUR COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT IS MADE UP THE, OF THE RECREATIONAL SIDE, WHICH IS BASICALLY YOUTH PROGRAMMING, UH, SPECIAL EVENTS, SPECIAL INTEREST CLASSES, SENIOR SERVICES, UH, IS, WE'VE GOT A DYNAMO WHO'S REALLY RIPPING THE COVER OFF IT.
AND SHE'S BEEN VERY VERSATILE IN WHAT SHE'S HAD TO DO TO MAKE THINGS WORK FOR THE SENIORS.
THE NUTRITION CENTER, THAT IS A VERY INTERESTING ENTITY IN ITSELF.
AND WE'RE GOT SOME INFORMATION, SOME FUTURE SLIDES FOR YOU.
AND THEN FACILITY RENTALS, IT WAS MENTIONED BY STEVE EARLIER THAT WE ARE REALLY WANTING TO LOOK AT A COUPLE DIFFERENT THINGS AS FAR AS WHAT OUR FLEXIBILITY IS GOING FORWARD AND BEING ABLE TO OFFER, UM, RENTAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR MORE OF A DIVERSE CROWD AS FAR AS BEING ABLE TO DO NOT HAVE TO HAVE JUST, UH, PUBLIC EVENTS, BUT PRIVATE EVENTS.
ALSO, I THINK WE'RE LEAVING A LOT OF REVENUE ON THE TABLE THAT WE COULD USE TO HELP, UM, MAXIMIZE OUR, OUR RECREATIONAL PROGRAMMING.
UH, SO THE, THE THING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO RIGHT NOW IS WE'RE, I'M LISTENING TO OUR FRONTLINE FOLKS AND THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT REALLY DRILLING DOWN AND LOOKING AT WHAT WE'RE OFFERING AND, AND THE FEES THAT WE'RE CHARGING.
I KNOW YOU JUST APPROVED THE FEE SCHEDULE FOR THIS, THIS FISCAL YEAR, BUT IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT, BECAUSE COMMUNITY SERVICES IS VERY FRIENDLY, UH, AS WHEN IT COMES TO FEES.
AND WHEN I SAY THAT, I MEAN FRIENDLY IN THE FACT THAT WE REALLY DON'T CHARGE ANYTHING.
AND OF COURSE WE'RE LOOKING AT THE SOCIAL ECONOMIC COMMUNITY THAT WE SERVE, BUT I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE COMMUNITY'S LOOKING FOR.
AND, AND WE'RE TRYING TO DO THAT THROUGH THE SURVEYS THAT WE TAKE AND ACCESSING SOCIAL MEDIA MORE, UH, AND JUST TRYING TO BE BETTER PARTNERS WITH THE COMMUNITY.
AND I THINK THAT, UH, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO LOOK AT GENERATING, AGAIN, MORE FUNDS TO ENHANCE THE TYPES OF, UH, PROGRAMMING THAT WE'RE SERVING.
THE OTHER THING IS, IS SUPER IMPORTANT IS, IS THE INCREASING OUR PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE COMMUNITY.
I, I THINK THAT WE'VE, I THINK THAT WE AREN'T EXPANDING ENOUGH.
I THINK WE'VE SILOED UP A LITTLE BIT AND WE NEED TO REALLY START TO BRIDGE THAT GAP WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS, UM, NATIONAL CITY SWEETWATER, WITH OUR SERVICE GROUPS, OUR ORGANIZATIONS, UH, WHETHER IT'S A SERVICE ORGANIZATION LIKE THE LIONS CLUB AND, UH, KIWANIS OR ROTARY AND ALSO OUR BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB.
THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT WE'RE DUPLICATING THAT I THINK THAT IF WE WORK COLLECTIVELY, THERE'S PLENTY OF PIE TO GO OUT THERE TO TRY TO SERVE THIS COMMUNITY.
AND THEN THE REALLY SUPER EXCITING THING THAT I THINK IS, UH, RIGHT HERE BEFORE YOU HEAR COMING IN JULY IS THE OPENING OF THE NEW SENIOR CENTER.
SO, JULY BEING A DARK MONTH FOR YOU, WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT EVERY ONE OF YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE AT THIS OPENING AND CELEBRATE US GOING FORWARD IN THIS NEW FACILITY AND OFFERING, UH, SENIOR SERVICE PROGRAMMING.
AND THEN, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE IN THE THROES OF IT AS FAR AS THE HIRING AND RETENTION OF PART-TIME EMPLOYEES.
UH, THE, THE, THE TEAM IS REALLY SCRAMBLING.
WE, WE WE'RE HAVING A CHALLENGING TIME 'CAUSE WE'RE BASICALLY WORKING IN A MARKET RIGHT NOW WHERE TACO BELL'S PLAYING $22 AN HOUR FOR A FRONTLINE AND SERVICE WORKER.
AND, UH, I WANT TO THANK LYDIA AND HER TEAM ALSO.
THEY'VE BEEN SUPER IN TRYING TO HELP EXPEDITE THE HIRING PROCESS FOR US, WHICH THE SOONER WE CAN GET PEOPLE HIRED AND ONBOARD, UH, THE SOONER WE CAN START EXPANDING AND GETTING READY FOR THE, THE SUMMER PROGRAMMING.
SO I, I MENTIONED RE REDUCING THE, UM, DUPLICATION OF SERVICES, THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB.
UH, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING AND SEEING WHAT THEY DO THERE, THEY BASICALLY OFFER FREE SUMMER PROGRAMMING FOR KIDS FIVE TO 12.
UH, AND I THINK THAT WE'RE MISSING THE MARK THERE.
I THINK THERE'S SOME, WE SHOULD BE EXPANDING AND LOOKING AT, UH, DIFFERENT, UH, DEMOGRAPHIC IN THE ASPECT OF AGE.
AND THAT IS THE 12 TO 18 YEARS OF AGE
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AND ENGAGING THOSE FOLKS IN, IN MORE SUMMER CAMPS OR MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO DO THINGS WITH RECREATIONAL PROGRAMMING.WE'RE ALSO, UM, LOOKING AT, WHEN WE OPEN OUR FACILITIES FOR OUR SPECIAL INTEREST CLASSES IN THE MORNINGS.
'CAUSE PRELIMINARILY DURING THE SCHOOL, DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR, WE, WE DON'T OPEN THE FACILITIES TO THE PUBLIC UNTIL ABOUT FOUR O'CLOCK IN THE AFTERNOON.
WE DO HAVE SPECIAL INTEREST CLASSES GOING ON, BUT WE'RE GONNA TRY TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO ATTRACT EVEN MORE SPECIAL INTERESTS.
SO WE'RE EXPANDING THE CAPACITY OF, AND THE ABILITY TO SERVE MORE PEOPLE.
AND THEN WE'RE CONTINUING TO, UM, APPLY FOR GRANTS, UH, TO TRY TO OFFSET SOME OF OUR EXPENSES FOR SPECIAL EVENTS, BUT ALSO LOOKING AT ENHANCING OUR OTHER PROGRAMMING TOO.
AND, AND THERE ARE SO MANY TOOLS OUT THERE THAT I'VE HAD SOME POSITIVE EXPERIENCES WITH.
AND IT'S ALSO ON THE, UM, ON THE HEALTH SERVICE SIDE, KAISER PERMANENTE SCRIPTS SHARP, THOSE FOLKS HAVE THESE GRANT POTENTIAL PRO, UH, PROGRAMS THAT WE CAN ACCESS.
AGAIN, IT DOES TAKE SOMEBODY TO WRITE THESE GRANTS.
AND, UH, I THINK THAT THERE'S, UH, SOME THINGS THAT WE CAN DO, UH, UTILIZING SOME OF THE, UH, STUDENTS IN DIFFERENT PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE WITH, UH, COLLABORATION WITH SAN DIEGO STATE UNIVERSITY.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
AND ALSO, UM, LIKE THE, UH, SAN DIEGO COUNTY COMMUNITY BLOCK GRANT, I THINK, UH, I THINK WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD SHOT AT OF, WE WEREN'T AWARDED THE LAST PAST TWO YEARS.
I THINK WE HAVE A GOOD SHOT OF IT THIS YEAR, DEPENDING ON WHO, UH, FILLS THAT SEAT.
AND THEN, UH, IT WAS TALKED ABOUT, AND I MENTIONED IT AT THE BEGINNING OF MY PRESENTATION, WE ARE LOOKING AT TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAKE THE WORDING AND THE AVAILABILITY OF POLICIES 8 0 1 AND 8 0 3 TO BE ABLE TO HAVE PRIVATE EVENTS AT OUR RECREATION FACILITIES.
AND THAT INCLUDES NOT ONLY IT, IT INCLUDES EVERY FACILITY THAT WE HAVE CAPACITY TO NOW THAT ARE OPEN.
UM, THERE'S ALSO SOMETHING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH THE CONCESSION AGREEMENTS, AND I KNOW YOU APPROVED A FEE FOR THAT LAST NIGHT, BUT, UH, OUR CITY MANAGER ACTUALLY MENTIONED THIS AND WE'RE LOOKING AT MAYBE CREATING AN EVENT, A WEEKEND EVENT THAT HAPPENS RIGHT HERE AT THE CIVIC CENTER WHERE ALL THAT PARKING IS.
AND MAYBE WE HAVE A A, A FARMER'S MARKET AND THEN WE HAVE VENT FOOD VENDORS THERE.
UH, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY, CREATING COLLABORATIONS WITH THE COMMUNITY, MAYBE THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, AND TRY TO SEE WHAT WE COULD DO TO DEVELOP INTEREST IN THAT.
AND AGAIN, GENERATING MORE REVENUE.
AND THEN AGAIN, UH, THE SPECIAL INTEREST CLASSES THAT, UH, I TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT STAFF HAS ALSO MENTIONED.
'CAUSE YOU HAVE A, A PROGRAM THAT'S BEING OFFERED BY SOMEBODY THAT SPECIALIZES IN DOING THAT.
THEY PAY US A FEE AND THEY'RE JUST UTILIZING SQUARE FOOTAGE OF OUR FACILITY.
SO IT'S, UH, IT'S PRETTY FINANCIALLY USER FRIENDLY.
SO CURRENTLY THIS JUST KEEPS GROWING AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH LONGER IT'S GONNA BE TO BE SUSTAINABLE GIVEN THE CURRENT I I'M SORRY, BUCK, CAN YOU SPEAK A LITTLE CLOSER TO THE MIC? SURE.
UM, TRAIN OF THOUGHT, SENIOR MOMENT.
SO
AND WE'RE SERVING ABOUT 80 ON AVERAGE DAILY HOME DELIVERY MEALS.
UM, THE COST PER MEAL IS 12 TO $15, WHICH IS REIMBURSABLE BY THE COUNTY FOR $7.
UM, AND THEN THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE HOME DELIVERY MEAL 'CAUSE WE'RE JUST DOING THAT NOW OUT OF MONIES FROM THE GENERAL FUND AND THE, UH, KIMBALL MORGAN TOWERS FEES.
SO WE, THE, THESE, THIS IS THE DEMOGRAPHIC OR THE NUMBERS THAT WE'RE GEOGRAPHIC NUMBERS THAT WE'RE SERVING CURRENTLY.
AND UH, ALSO INCLUDES THIS CALENDAR YEAR.
53.7% AS NATIONAL CITY RESIDENTS.
SAN DIEGO, CHULA VISTA, SAN STO, AND SPRING VALLEY.
AND I CAN TELL YOU WHY THAT IS, IS BECAUSE STAFF DOES SUCH A GOOD JOB.
IT'S A GREAT MEAL AND PEOPLE, UH, COME HERE BECAUSE IT'S SO GOOD.
UH, AND IT'S BASICALLY, WE ASK FOR A DONATION.
IF YOU'RE 60 OR OLDER, WE ASK FOR A DONATION OF THREE 50.
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7% OF THAT THREE 50, AND THE NONS SENIORS ARE PAYING $6.SO WORKING WITH THE CITY MANAGER IN THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, WE'RE, WE'RE EVALUATING AND TRYING, GOING TO BE MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS TO YOU ON WHAT WE THINK IS THE BEST WAY TO MOVE FORWARD TO SERVE THE CITIZENS HERE, THE NATIONAL CITY CUSTOMERS, CITIZENS, AND, AND, AND BE CONSISTENT IN WHAT WE'RE OFFERING AS FAR AS THE PRODUCT THAT WE, UH, THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY OFFERING.
SO, AND WITH THAT, YEAH, IF I CAN ADD SOME TO THAT.
SO LOOKING AT THE, THE RECREATIONAL, UH, COMPONENT, AND I THINK BUCK MENTIONED THIS, I RECENTLY WENT ON A TOUR WITH, UH, WITH OUR GREAT SUPERVISORY AND MANAGEMENT STAFF.
AND I, I WASN'T ABLE TO SEE ALL THE FACILITIES, BUT I, THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF POTENTIAL.
AND I THINK THAT, UM, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE SUPERVISORY POSITIONS AND WE LOOK AT GROWTH AND WHAT WE CAN DO, UM, WE NEED, WE NEED TO COLLABORATE MORE, UM, WITH THE SCHOOL AND TRYING TO UTILIZE OTHER FACILITIES THAT MIGHT BE AVAILABLE TO US.
AND THERE, THERE IS GONNA BE A CERTAIN LEVEL OF DUPLICATION BECAUSE THERE'S SOME, THERE'S SOME KIDS THAT DON'T FIT IN SOME OF THOSE PROGRAMS. AND, UM, BUT WE NEED TO BE, WE NEED TO EVALUATE THAT WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THAT.
I KNOW THE STAFF THAT'S WORKED THERE FOR YEARS KNOWS THEY KNOW THE CURRENT SYSTEM REALLY WELL.
AND, AND I TRUST IN THE FEEDBACK THAT I, I GOT FROM 'EM.
UM, I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT IS WHERE ARE WE GOING, YOU KNOW, UH, WHAT WE DO TODAY, I THINK WE DO WELL, BUT WHAT CAN WE DO MORE? AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO, TO PUSH, UM, MAYBE THE BOUNDARY AND, UH, IN THE RECREATIONAL AREA.
IN ORDER TO DO THAT, WE WE'RE GONNA NEED TO COLLABORATE MORE WITH OUR OTHER PARTNERS IN THE COMMUNITY.
UM, I, I LOOK AT THE CITY AS BEING THE CONDUIT FOR PEOPLE TO KNOW ABOUT ALL RECREATION, WHETHER OR NOT WE PROVIDE IT.
UM, BUT WE SHOULD BE THE CONDUIT TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW ABOUT WHAT'S AVAILABLE OUT THERE.
AND THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO NOT JUST PARTICIPATE IN OUR AREAS, BUT IN SOME OF THE OTHER ONES AND BENEFIT FROM, UM, AND THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE.
AND THE SCHOOL PRE AND AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAM IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF THAT.
UM, SO THERE'S A LOT OF POTENTIAL THERE.
UM, I THINK THE RESOURCES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THE OTHER SUPERVISORY RESOURCES, WE HAVE A OPEN DEPARTMENT HEAD POSITION.
UM, PART OF THIS IS HAVING CONSISTENT MANAGEMENT.
AND IN ORDER FOR A PROGRAM TO HAVE THE FULL BENEFIT OF WHAT WE CAN DO, IT'S PUTTING CONSISTENT MANAGEMENT OVER THAT DEPARTMENT WHO HAS A RECREATIONAL BACKGROUND.
UH, THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT I NOTICED TWO YEARS AGO, AND IT'S, IT WAS THE SAME ISSUE.
THEY'VE HAD A LOT OF RE REVOLVING DOORS AND NO, NO OFFENSE TO BUCK AND TRACY.
UM, BUT WE'RE IN THAT PROCESS RIGHT NOW TO TRY TO GET A DEPARTMENT HEAD IN HERE, GO THROUGH THE RECRUITMENT PROCESS, AND THEN REALLY HAVE THEM WORK, UH, WITH THE REST OF THE TEAM THAT'S BEEN HERE.
UM, LIKE I SAID ON THE TOUR, HEARD A LOT OF GOOD IDEAS FROM THE OTHER TEAM MEMBERS, UH, THAT HAVE BEEN HERE.
UH, WE ALSO HAVE FACILITIES THAT ARE, TO WHAT STEVE WAS SAYING, WE HAVE SOME FACILITIES THAT NEED SOME LOVE AND CARE AND, UM, SO THEY'RE WORKING IN CONDITIONS THAT AREN'T OPTIMUM.
UH, WE'RE TRYING TO PROVIDE PROGRAMS IN THOSE CONDITIONS.
AND SO THERE'S AN EFFORT THAT WE NEED TO PUT TOGETHER.
UM, AND PART OF THAT'S GOTTA BE THE VISION THAT WE BRING BACK TO YOU.
HERE'S HOW THESE RESOURCES THAT YOU'VE GIVEN US, UH, ARE GONNA HELP SUPPORT THAT.
AND IF WE NEED OTHERS, UH, HOW TO GO ABOUT IT.
UM, WE DON'T CHARGE, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT RECOUPING OUR COSTS IN THIS AREA.
AND IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT WE SHOULD, BUT IT IS AN AREA WHERE IT WOULD BE NICER TO BE ABLE TO FREE UP SOME OPPORTUNITIES.
AND SO EVERYONE IN THE TOUR, UH, WAS HANDS DOWN.
WE CAN OPTIMIZE OUR FACILITIES BETTER.
UH, THE RENTAL ID CAME FROM THEM.
UH, THEY'RE TRYING TO USE MLK AS MUCH AS THEY CAN, BUT WE HAVE THESE TWO POLICIES THAT ARE LISTED IN YOUR, UH, OUTLINE THAT, UH, REALLY RESTRAIN OUR ABILITY, UH, TO USE THE FACILITY.
NOW, TYPICALLY WHEN YOU GO TO DOING MORE PRIVATE RENTALS, THERE'S A CONCERN ABOUT THE CONDITION WEAR AND TEAR ON
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THE FACILITIES.AND I THINK OUR, OUR THOUGHT PROCESS TO THAT IS THAT WE GEAR THE FEES AROUND THE PROTECTION OF THE FACILITY, UH, THE CLEANING OF IT, THE RESTORATION, IF IT'S NEEDED, WE CHARGE A DEPOSIT.
AND THIS IS SIMILAR TO WHAT OTHER, UH, CITIES DO WHEN THEY HAVE, UH, RENTAL FACILITIES.
AND SO WE'RE ASKING YOU TO, UM, ALTHOUGH WE DON'T HAVE THE POLICY RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU, BUT WE'RE ASKING YOU, UM, IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, WE'LL BRING IT BACK, REVISIT THE POLICY AND HAVE SOME DIALOGUE ON THAT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CITY MANAGER.
AND THANK YOU BUCK, UH, REGARDING THAT LAST COMMENT YOU JUST MADE, UH, REGARDING THE POLICY ONE, OH, UH, 8 0 1 AND 8 0 3.
UM, I AM INTERESTED IN SEEING THAT COME BACK.
UH, I AM IN FAVOR OF, UM, RELAXING MAYBE SOME OF THE PROVISIONS IN THESE POLICIES THAT AREN'T ALLOWING US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PLAN FOR, UM, UPDATING FACILITY RENTALS.
UH, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT.
HOW QUICKLY DO YOU THINK THAT THAT MIGHT, UH, GET IMPLEMENTED? HOW QUICKLY CAN WE BRING IT BACK TO YOU? OH, I CAN BRING IT BACK NEXT MEETING, UPDATE THE POLICY, AND THEN, UH, START ADVERTISING THAT WE CAN RENT OUT THESE FACILITIES.
I THINK, I THINK WE HAVE THE RESOURCES ON THE STAFF, AND THEN AGAIN, WE NEED TO BRING ON THESE OTHER POSITIONS YOU GUYS HAVE TALKED ABOUT.
BUT I THINK, UM, MY SENSE IS THAT THEY WOULD BE RUNNING AT THAT AS AN OPPORTUNITY AND, UH, BE DOING IT AS AS SOON AS WE CAN.
UM, THE FAC THE FACILITY OR THE, THE USER FEES THAT WE APPROVED LAST NIGHT ARE THE, ARE THE, THE FACILITIES THAT WE'RE SPEAKING ABOUT HERE, I'M SORRY, THE FEES WE'RE SPEAKING ABOUT HERE IN THAT LIST THAT WE JUST APPROVED LAST NIGHT.
UM, THERE, MY UNDERSTANDING THERE WAS SOME OF THOSE IN THERE, BUT I THINK WE WANT TO TAKE ANOTHER REVISIT OF THAT AT THAT.
UM, BUT THERE DEFINITELY WAS AN INCREASE IN RENTAL FACILITIES IN THERE.
SO I, I DID SEE THAT MOST OF OUR PROGRAMS DID NOT SEE A CHANGE IN THE FEE, BUT THE RENTAL FACILITIES WERE LISTED IN THERE.
UM, I JUST DON'T, AS I'M SITTING HERE, I WASN'T A PART OF THAT.
BUT I KNOW, UH, I WANNA MAKE SURE OUR STAFF WAS FULLY ENGAGED IN THAT AND UNDERSTANDING THE FULL, UH, COST RECOVERY AND INCLUDING STEVE AND HIS STAFF.
YEAH, JUST A COUPLE QUICK THINGS IS THAT, UH, AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RENTING FACILITIES, UM, AND THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RENTING 'EM AND THE, THE CONCEPT OF HAVING HAVE, HAVE A FEE, WHICH IS PAYING FOR THE SERVICES.
AND SO IF WHAT WE'RE DOING IS HAVING OVERTIME FOR JANITORS AND EVERYTHING, AND WE'RE COVERING THAT COST, WE'RE NOT REALLY MAKING, THERE, THERE'S NOT ANY MONEY BEING MADE INTO THE BUDGET BECAUSE YOU'RE COSTING YOU EXTRA MONEY THAT YOU WEREN'T SPENDING BEFORE, AND YOU'RE JUST RECOUPING THAT COST.
SO IT, IT CAN BE REVENUE NEUTRAL IF YOU DON'T WATCH IT.
AND THE OTHER THING BEING, IF YOU'VE ALSO THEN REALIZING A LOT OF THE, THE THINGS THAT HAVE COME BEFORE US BEFORE AND ASKING TO RENT FACILITIES ARE, WELL, WE'VE GOT A FUNDRAISER FOR A YOUTH PROGRAM, AND IF YOU CHARGE US, THEN WE WON'T HAVE MONEY FOR THE KIDS.
SO THEREFORE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, DON'T CHARGE 'EM FOR THE, FOR THE RENTAL.
WELL THEN ONCE AGAIN, IT'S JUST THE COST AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE AN ADDITIONAL COST.
AND THEN IT'S, IT'S NOT NO LONGER A REVENUE GENERATOR.
AND, UM, SO I, I THINK WE HAVE TO RIGHT, LIKE THE FIREWORKS, HUH? YEAH.
LIKE THE 4TH OF JULY FIREWORKS.
AND THEN ALSO THE, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, AND WE'VE HAD ALSO DEALS ABOUT, WELL, YOU KNOW, SO AND SO, YOU KNOW, AND, AND I CAN JUST SAY THIS BECAUSE THERE'S NO SPECIFIC INDIVIDUAL, UH, BUT SO AND SO, UH, UH, PASSED AWAY.
UH, MY, YOU KNOW, MY, MY FATHER, MY GRANDFATHER, WHATEVER, HE WAS A GREAT PERSON IN THE COMMUNITY.
THEREFORE, WE NEED TO HAVE THE FUNERAL SERVICES THERE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE CAN'T PAY FOR IT, YOU KNOW? AND SO, ONCE AGAIN, SO WE START DROPPING ALL COSTS.
AND SO THERE CAN BE, ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS CAN COME UP.
AND SO REALIZING IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RENTAL, THEN WE REALLY NEED TO TALK ABOUT RENTAL AS A BUSINESS AND, UH, UH, TO LOOK AT IT FROM THAT STANDPOINT.
JUST TO DEAL ALSO ON THE, I WOULD JUST SAY MAYOR TO THAT.
AND, AND THERE'S INSTANCES WHERE, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S A PUBLIC GOOD, LIKE, SO IF IT'S ATTRACTING A, A LOT OF PEOPLE, SO THE 4TH OF JULY FIREWORKS FOR EXAMPLE, THAT YOU CAN MAKE AN ARGUMENT THAT THAT'S AN INVESTMENT BECAUSE IT ATTRACTS PEOPLE AND PEOPLE ARE SPENDING MONEY IN THE CITY.
SO I THINK THAT VERSUS LIKE, YEAH, SOMETHING, A FUNERAL IS LIKE MORE OF A PRIVATE EVENT AND THERE'S FUNERAL HOMES.
SO THAT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, I WOULDN'T, BUT, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE ALREADY DOING WITH THE FIREWORKS.
SO, UH, THE, UH, THE OTHER THING BEING, TALKING ABOUT WITH THE, UH, NUTRITION CENTER, YEAH, IT, I MEAN, IS IS A GREAT DEAL.
AND I SEE YOU SEE YOUR NUMBERS UP THERE.
AND, UH, I KNOW I TALKED WITH A GENTLEMAN OVER THERE, UH, RECENTLY AND, UH, AND HE WAS JUST THANKING US.
'CAUSE HE SAYS, YOU KNOW, FIVE DAYS A
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WEEK I COME HERE FROM MY HOME IN POINT LOMA, UH, BECAUSE THE FOOD IS REALLY GOOD HERE.AND, UH, YOU KNOW, AND SO HE TRAVELS ALL THE WAY FROM POINT LOMA.
HE SPENDS MORE ON GAS THAN, THAN HE PAYS FOR THE MEAL, THAT'S FOR SURE.
BUT, UH, UH, I HAD, UH, ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL THAT I SAW HIM GETTING OUT OF THEIR CAR, AND WHEN THEY GOT OUTTA THE CAR, THEY OPENED THEIR BACK SEAT AND TOOK THEIR GOLF CLUBS OUTTA THE BACKSEAT AND PUT IN THE TRUNK.
SO I WOULDN'T JUST START TALKING WITH HIM, HEY, WHERE DO YOU GOLF ACT LIKE I WAS A GOLFER AND I DON'T GOLF.
BUT, UH, HE WAS SAYING, YEAH, HE MAKES IT, HE TRIES TO MAKE IT AT LEAST THREE OUT, UH, THREE DAYS OUT OF THE WEEK AT, AT THE, UH, CORONADO GOLF COURSE AND BEFORE HE COMES OVER HERE.
SO, I MEAN, SO PEOPLE COME FROM ALL OVER AND, UH, AND IT'S NOT, SOMETIMES IT'S BECAUSE OF NEED AND OTHER TIMES IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST A PREFERENCE BECAUSE WE DO A GREAT JOB THERE.
UM, I THINK VICE IS SOME MORE, OKAY, YOU'RE DONE.
VICE, WERE YOU DONE OR THOSE? OH, JUST ON THE NUTRITION.
SO YEAH, IT, IT'S A, IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM.
UM, I THINK WE CAN EVEN MAYBE EXPLORE SOME PARTNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES WITH OUR LOCAL NONPROFITS LIKE, UM, ALL OF GARDENS, FOR EXAMPLE.
SO I THINK THERE'S SOME POTENTIAL MUTUAL BENEFIT THERE.
UM, BUT I'LL I'LL SAY TOO PART, UH, AND I KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO BE SENSITIVE ABOUT DISCUSSING PERSONNEL ISSUES, BUT I HAVE TO SAY THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF PERSONNEL ISSUES AND OPERATIONAL INEFFICIENCIES, I'LL SAY.
AND THAT BLEEDS INTO THE BUDGET.
THAT BLEEDS INTO A LOT OF OTHER ISSUES THAT END UP, LIKE, END UP BEING A COST.
SO, UH, I, I JUST WANT TO SAY WITHOUT, YOU DON'T NEED TO NECESSARILY RESPOND.
STAFF DOESN'T NEED TO RESPOND TO THAT.
I GUESS IT'S MORE OF A CITY MANAGER THING.
BUT, UM, BUT YEAH, SO THAT, THAT I THINK IS AN AREA THAT I THINK IS ON THE RIGHT TRACK TO, UH, IMPROVING.
BUT I THINK THAT CAUSES SOME IN INEFFICIENCIES TOO, UM, IS JUST SOME, SOME KIND OF MANAGEMENT, UH, CHALLENGES THERE.
OTHER, OTHERWISE IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM.
I, I THINK MAYBE THERE'S POTENTIAL TO INCREASE THESE, THESE DONATIONS OR THESE, UH, REQUESTED DONATIONS.
I MAYBE THERE'S OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE THE SENIORS AND LET THEM KNOW, HEY, THIS IS A BUDGET LOSS FOR US.
WHAT IDEAS DO YOU HAVE? DO YOU GUYS MIND DONATING YOUR TIME OR, UH, UH, RESOURCES TO HELP US RAISE MONEY? I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, BUT I, I, I JUST TRYING TO THINK OUTSIDE OF, OF THE BOX.
'CAUSE IT IS A GOOD, I, IT'S, IT IS REALLY POPULAR, A GOOD SERVICE, AND IT, AND IT HELPS A LOT OF PEOPLE IN NEED.
THERE'S ALWAYS GONNA BE FOLKS THAT TAKE IT ADVANTAGE.
SO IF THERE'S WAYS THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, UH, HOLD, HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE OR PUT SOME PARAMETERS THERE, I, I DON'T HONESTLY KNOW ABOUT THAT, BUT YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S MY THOUGHTS WITH THAT.
SCOTT, DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT ON THAT? WELL, UM, I, I AM, UM, THIS IS A DIFFICULT ISSUE FOR ME PERSONALLY.
UM, BUT I'LL TELL YOU THAT IT'S, IT IS A GREAT PROGRAM.
IT'S A GREAT THING TO BE ABLE TO FEED, FEED PEOPLE.
UM, I THINK OUR FOCUS OUGHT TO BE ON THE PEOPLE IN NATIONAL CITY.
UM, I THINK THE COUNTY, UH, BY TAKING THE COUNTY'S MONEY, WE'RE STRAPPED WITH A LOT OF REQUIREMENTS THAT, UH, MAKE IT PROBLEMATIC FOR US.
UH, IT, IT, AGAIN, IT'S A GREAT THING TO SERVE THOSE OTHER 46.3%, UH, OF THE MEALS TO PEOPLE OUTSIDE OUR COMMUNITY, UH, MANY OF WHICH ARE COMING FROM COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE A LOT MORE RESOURCES THAN WE DO.
UM, SO IT'D BE NICE TO GET FUNDING, UH, TO HELP SUPPORT THAT.
UM, CANDIDLY, I, I THINK WE OUGHT TO FEED THE PEOPLE IN NATIONAL CITY, AND, UH, I THINK WE OUGHT TO BE FOCUSED ON THAT, DO THAT PROGRAM REALLY GOOD.
UH, BECAUSE ONE OF THE OPTIONS WE'RE LOOKING AT IS, AND IT, IT'S LIKE WHERE DO WE, WHERE DO WE CUT TO SAVE MM-HMM
AND THE, THE MEALS, OUR MEALS ON WHEELS GO TO OUR RESIDENTS.
UM, AND IT COMPETES, WE HAVE A BETTER PRODUCT, A BETTER FOOD, THAT THAT'S WHY, UH, MEALS ON WHEELS DOESN'T GET THE SERVICE AS OURS DOES 'CAUSE OUR FOOD'S BETTER.
UM, BUT THE STILL, THE 46%, UM, IT, IT WOULD BE NICE TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT MONEY FROM SOMEONE ELSE.
OTHERWISE, I, I WOULD TELL YOU, WE MAY WANT TO CONSIDER SERVING ONLY OUR COMMUNITY AND REDUCING IT.
AND I KNOW THAT'S A TOUGH THING 'CAUSE UH, I'M SURE THERE'S PEOPLE IN NEED, THEY'RE COMING TO US, UH, BUT WE'RE ALSO IN A VERY STRAPPED FINANCIAL SITUATION.
SO LONG TERM, THIS REALLY ISN'T SUSTAINABLE UNLESS WE GET MORE RESOURCES IN.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
ONE IS, YOU KNOW, DO WE, UH, FOCUS OUR PROGRAM AROUND NATIONAL CITY AND SAY GOODBYE TO THE 300 AND, UH, 80, UH, THOUSAND DOLLARS? UH, FRANKLY, IF YOU REDUCE THE TOTAL COST BY 46%,
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WE CAN FUND THAT BETWEEN THE COMMITMENT FROM OUR BUDGET RIGHT NOW AND THE TOWERS.SO SOME OF THAT'S LIKE, DO WE REALLY WANNA DO THAT? SO WHERE WE'RE AT NOW IS EXPLORING THESE OPTIONS.
TONIGHT WAS ABOUT LETTING YOU KNOW WHO'S USING IT, HOW IT'S WORKING, AND, UM, AND THEN GETTING WHATEVER GOOD FEEDBACK THAT YOU HAVE FOR US SO WE CAN CONTINUE.
AND SCOTT, I HAVE ALSO HEARD THAT WE MISSED OUT ON SOME POTENTIAL GRANT OPPORTUNITIES IN THE PAST, WHICH ALSO SPEAKS TO THE POTENTIAL MANAGEMENT OR COMMUNICATION ISSUES.
SO AGAIN, NOT POINTING THE FINGER THERE, BUT I, I, I THINK WE ALSO HAVE BEEN LACKING IN DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE ON THE COMMUNICATION WITH THE COUNTY AND RECUPERATING THAT MONEY.
UM, I DIDN'T HAVE THAT PAGE, BUT BECAUSE WE'RE ON THAT TOPIC, IT'S ON THE SEPARATE, IT'S ON THE BIG ONE.
UM, SO, UH, I AGREE WITH, WITH THE SENTIMENT OR THE COMMENT THAT, UH, FOR OF THAT 46%, BUT LET'S REVISIT THAT GRANT, HOW RESTRICTIVE IT IS IF WE HAVE TO FEED EVERYBODY AND THEIR MOTHER.
UM, OR WE CAN JUST HAVE OUR, UM, NATIONAL CITY.
SO I'LL GO FIRST TO WHAT IS CONFUSING TO ME, BECAUSE THERE WAS A QUESTION FROM VICE MAYOR EARLIER WHO TAKES CARE OF THE FACILITY WHEN IT'S BEING RENTED PUBLIC WORK SAID THEY ARE, BUT THEN I SEE IT HERE IN THE COMMUNITY SERVICES.
SO LAST YEAR WE HAD, TWO YEARS AGO WHEN I CAME ON IN 23, THAT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE THERE.
THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE PUBLIC SERVICE BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT PREPARES AND, AND THEN THEY CAN HANDLE THOSE.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHY I CAME BACK HERE, BUT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I THINK IT'S REDUNDANT IF, IF THEY'RE TRYING TO REPAIR, MANAGE AND, UM, STRUCTURE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN THE PROGRAMS AND EVENTS, THEY SHOULD HANDLE THAT FACILITY SERVICES OR FACILITY RENTALS, JUST LIKE HOW IT WAS ANSWERED EARLIER THROUGH THE VICE MAYOR'S QUESTION.
SO I THINK THAT'S ONE THAT YOU, THAT YOU'LL HAVE TO REVISIT MR. CITY MANAGER.
AND THEN I'LL GO TO THE CURRENT PRIORITIES AND MAJOR INITIATIVES.
I THINK WE DID THAT THROUGH THE, UH, RECOMMENDATION FROM EACH DEPARTMENT.
UM, UH, THE, UH, HIGHER END RETENTION OF PART-TIME EMPLOYEES THAT WAS NOT INCLUDED IN OUR BUDGET, THE PART-TIME EMPLOYEES.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT MONETIZED, PLEASE, MR. CITY MANAGER.
UM, WHEN WE, WHEN WE RETURN, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE RETURN TO THE, THE, UM, THE, THE SUMMARY OF ALL WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW, UM, REDUCED APPLICATION OF SERVICES, I THINK THAT'S NUMBER ONE.
THE RENTAL FACILITY SHOULD GO TO PUBLIC WORKS.
UM, ANALYZE PEAK USAGE AND DATA STAFFING COSTS.
I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE DOING RIGHT NOW BASED ON THE DATA THAT I SEE HERE.
THE GRANT APPLICATION NEEDS TO BE REVISITED BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW HOW RESTRICTIVE THEY ARE BASED ON WHO AND HOW WE ARE GOING TO SERVICE, YOU KNOW, OR HOW WE ARE GOING TO, UM, DELIVER THE, THE DELIVERABLES THROUGH THAT GRANT.
UM, OTHER FACILITIES, UH, PROGRAMS, LIKE I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, THERE'S A 22,000 SQUARE FEET FACILITY THAT WE HAVE FOR A DOLLAR A YEAR THAT SAYS THERE SHOULD BE A AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAM THAT COMES WITH IT.
WHERE IS IT? WHY IS IT NOT HERE? SO WE NEED TO REVISIT THAT.
WE JUST CHANGED THE ROOF OF THAT FACILITY THAT COST US 150,000 GRAND.
SO WE GOTTA, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, LOOK MORE CLOSELY TO COMMUNITY SERVICES.
AND I KNOW THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN THERE'S, WE'RE LOOKING AT, HEY, LET'S LOOK AT LEADERSHIP.
SO LET'S UTILIZE THOSE LEADERSHIP THAT ARE, THAT ARE THERE RIGHT NOW, PLUS THE, THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND, AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE CURRENTLY THERE, UM, WHO ARE REALLY, YOU KNOW, I MEAN DELIVERING THE SERVICES TO OUR COMMUNITY.
SO, UH, CONCESSIONS AGREEMENTS, DEPENDING ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT KIND OF CONCESSION, UM, THAT IS.
IS IT FOR SPECIAL EVENTS? IF IT'S SPECIAL EVENTS? YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WHAT IS IT? INTEREST, UH, INTEREST CLASSES.
UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I THINK THOSE ARE THE CLASSES THAT COMMUNITY SERVICES, UH, PROVIDES.
UM, THESE ARE THE RECREATION, UM, SENIOR SERVICES.
UH, YOU KNOW, MEAN LET'S NOT REINVENT THE WHEEL, RIGHT? THIS IS PROVIDING, UM, COMMUNITY EVENTS AND COMMUNITY PROGRAMS TO OUR COMMUNITY, UH, OR OUR CONSTITUENTS.
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YOU KNOW, I MEAN, LOOKING AT THE GRANTS THAT WE CAN, THAT WE CAN, UM, UM, TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THESE OPPORTUNITIES AND SEE, UM, IF WE, IF WE CAN GET MORE OR HOW RESTRICTIVE THEY ARE.AND THEN RETURN HIRING AND RETENTION.
I THINK THOSE TWO SUPERVISORS IN COMMUNITY SERVICES.
UM, I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUES ON A, ON A COUPLE OF THINGS.
UH, DEFINITELY UPDATING THE FACILITY RENTAL POLICY I THINK IS CRUCIAL.
YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES I THINK WE FORGET, UM, EVERYTHING AROUND US, EVERYTHING PUBLIC IS LITERALLY THE PUBLIC'S ALL OF OURS.
SO MAKING IT AS EASY AS POSSIBLE FOR THE COMMUNITY TO UTILIZE, I THINK SHOULD BE A PRIORITY.
AND SO I DON'T THINK THE INTENT SHOULD BE TO MAKE MONEY OFF OF TAXPAYERS THAT ALREADY PAY TAXES FOR A PROPERTY THAT'S ALREADY THEIRS, OURS.
SO I THINK WE HAVE TO KIND OF LOOK AT THAT A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY.
UM, BUT I DO THINK WE NEED TO OPEN UP OUR DOORS MORE.
OUR PUBLIC SPACES ARE PUBLIC AND IT'S, THEY'RE PAID BY TAXPAYERS.
AND SO I WOULD CERTAINLY BE OPEN TO, AND I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUES IN UPDATING THOSE, UH, POLICIES.
UM, WE MENTIONED THIS EARLIER, AND MY COLLEAGUE ALLUDED TO THIS, THE REC CENTER SUPERVISOR POSITIONS ARE CRITICAL.
THE SUMMER IS COMING, BUT PAST THAT, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE OFFER PROGRAMMING AGAIN FOR OUR PUBLIC THAT DESPERATELY NEEDS IT.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, NATIONAL CITY, THE, UM, AVERAGE NATIONAL CITY FAMILY IN THEIR MID TO LATE THIRTIES WITH TWO OR THREE KIDS, RIGHT? SO WE HAVE A LOT OF YOUNGER FAMILIES IN THE CITY, UH, THAT ARE STRUGGLING TO MAKE ENDS MEET.
AND THE NEED TO HAVE PROGRAMMING FOR CHILDREN IS CRITICAL.
AND OFTENTIMES SCHOOLS DO THEIR BEST, BUT I THINK WE CAN DO A GOOD JOB OF HELPING COORDINATE WITH THEM.
BUT WE CAN'T DO THAT IF WE DON'T FILL THESE POSITIONS.
AND WE ALLOW OUR, OUR REC, UH, TEAM TO DEVELOP GOOD PROGRAMMING THAT OUR COMMUNITY NEEDS.
SO I WOULD STRESS THAT AS WELL.
AND THE SENIOR CENTER, I KNOW WE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS LAST TIME.
I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS ON THE SLIDE.
UH, THE ONE BEFORE THIS ONE, THE NUTRITION SER SERVICES, IT SAYS IT COSTS PER MEAL, UM, VARIES FROM 12 TO $15 PER MEAL.
UM, AND THAT $7 IS REIMBURSABLE THROUGH THE COUNTY GRANT.
UM, HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE? LOOKING AT THE FUNDING SOURCES NUMBERS? SO IF WE ADD ALL THOSE NUMBERS, THAT'S ABOUT ONE POINT, UH, 4 MILLION, 1.4 IN CHANGE, HOW, HOW IS ALMOST HALF REIMBURSABLE THROUGH THE COUNTY? WHAT ARE WE NOT, WHAT AM I NOT UNDERSTANDING THERE? DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? SO ENDING ALL, ADDING ALL THE FUNDING SOURCES, 341,000, 500,003 85 EQUALS, UM, SOMEBODY HELP ME DO THE MATH.
ONE FOUR PLUS 1.4 AND CHANGE IT.
BUT ON TOP IT SAYS THAT $7 ABOUT HALF IS RE REIMBURSABLE THROUGH THE COUNTY.
HOW'S THAT POSSIBLE? IS THERE SOMETHING WE'RE NOT COUNTING IN THERE? I DIDN'T DO THAT MATH, BUT, UH,
UH, MATH I'M LOOKING AT IS WHAT WE GET FROM 'EM, WHICH IS THE 341.
UM, I I DON'T KNOW BUCK IF YOU KNOW WHERE THAT CAME FROM.
UM, WE DO THE FIGURE 12 BETWEEN 12 AND 15 IS WHAT WE GOT FROM, UH, THE STAFF THAT WORKS THERE ON AVERAGE TRYING TO AVERAGE THOSE THINGS OUT.
THE REAL NUMBER IS THE COUNTY'S GIVEN US LESS THAN 46%.
THEY'RE GIVING US THE, UH, 34.
I COULD SEE IT BETTER, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT, UM, I CAN DO THE MATH REALLY QUICK AND TELL YOU WHAT PERCENT OF THE COST OF THAT IS, BUT I KNOW IT'S NOT 46.
UM, AND I THINK THAT WAS OUR POINT, IS TRYING TO LOOK AT EITHER GET MORE MONEY, WE GOTTA CONTAIN THE PROGRAM TOO.
THE, THE PROGRAM IS OVERWHELMING IF YOU'VE BEEN THERE, SO, YOU KNOW.
IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU LOVE TO HAVE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU'D LOVE TO HAVE THE MONEY TO SUPPORT IT.
AND I THINK THAT'S THE PART THROUGH THE CHAIR I READ, SORRY, I READ THIS, THIS, UH, GRANT FROM, UH, THE COUNTY AND THAT 3 41 ONLY GOES TO FOOD, NO ADMINISTRATION, ONLY FOOD THING.
WELL, AND YOU CAN'T DO A LOT OF THINGS TOO.
THAT'S WHY WE HAVE, WE CAN'T TURN PEOPLE AWAY.
AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF THAT.
THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE A SUBSIDY OF, OF 500 FOR THE ADMINISTRATION PART OF IT.
BECAUSE THAT GRANT IS ONLY FOR FOOD.
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IT, IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR US TO ASK FOR MORE FUNDING FROM THE COUNTY, UH, SEEN AS WE ARE OFFERING SERVICES FOR A LOT OF COUNTY RESIDENTS.WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF RE REACHING OUT TO 'EM RIGHT NOW.
TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW THEY'RE GONNA HELP US BRIDGE THIS GAP INSTEAD OF IT BEING ON OUR END.
HELP ME UNDERSTAND THESE FIGURES AS WELL, BECAUSE I ENDED UP ALL THESE PERCENTAGES AND IT'S ABOUT 90%.
WHERE DO THE REST, 10% COME FROM? JUST ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTY.
NOT MY, NOT MY NUMBERS, BUT I'LL LOOK TOWARDS BUCK.
AND I THINK HE GOT THOSE NUMBERS FROM SOME, AND, AND, AND THE REASON I ASK IS BECAUSE I'VE BEEN THERE MANY TIMES AND I'VE VOLUNTEERED MANY TIMES.
THE OVERWHELMING AMOUNT OF PEOPLE I HAVE SPOKEN TO LIVE HERE SOMEWHERE HERE AND, AND SPECIFICALLY AT THE TOWERS.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAME UP WITH THESE FIGURES AND THEY DON'T ADD UP.
WELL, THAT'S THEIR, THE REGISTRATION CARD THAT THEY FILL OUT, THAT'S WHERE WE GOT THESE FIGURES FROM.
SO WHERE THEY PLACE THEMSELVES IS, IS WHERE THAT'S AT.
SO WE, YEAH, WE DIDN'T MAKE THOSE UP.
THAT'S, BUT BECAUSE YOU'RE REGISTERED, DOES THAT MEAN YOU GO THERE AND EAT? OR YOU'RE JUST REGISTERED TO GO EAT AT SOME POINT? SO WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU GO TO GET YOUR MEAL, YOU HAVE TO PRODUCE YOUR CARD THAT YOU HAVE TO QUALIFY FOR THROUGH THE FUNDING PROGRAM.
AND THEN IT'S SCANNED AND THAT'S, AND THEN THE ZIP CODE IS RECORDED IN, IN THAT, UM, IN THAT SCAN.
SO THAT WAY WE CAN HAVE AN ACCOUNTING OF, AND I'M NOT SURE THE MATH HERE, I MAY, I MAY HAVE SCREWED THIS UP 'CAUSE THE BUCK STOPS HERE, BUT
SO, UM, I, I'LL HAVE TO CLARIFY THOSE NUMBERS TO, TO ADD UP TO A HUNDRED, BUT I, I'M NOT, THESE ARE WHAT I WAS GIVEN BY STAFF TODAY.
AND SO THE CITY MANAGER SAID, I'D REALLY LIKE TO HAVE SOMETHING.
AND SO THE COUNCIL CAN HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE THESE FOLKS ARE COMING FROM.
SO I, I'LL HAVE TO GET BACK TO THE CITY MANAGER WITH, MAKE SURE THE THE NUMBERS ARE CORRECT.
MOST LIKELY THOSE ARE ONLY NUMBERS THAT ARE 1% OR MORE.
SO THERE'S PROBABLY LESS THAN 1% COMING FROM IMPERIAL BEACH, FROM CORONADO AND ALL THE OTHER CITIES.
AND THEN BY THAT TIME YOU GET CLOSER TO THE, I THINK 10% THOUGH.
SO, SO I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN FI LIKE FINDING OUT THOSE NUMBERS AND IF IT'S JUST PEOPLE THAT ARE REGISTERED OR PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY COME HERE ON A REGULAR BASIS.
'CAUSE AS I MENTIONED, MOST OF THE PEOPLE I'VE SPOKEN TO ACTUALLY LIVE HERE.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S PEOPLE REGISTERED OR PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY USE A SERVICE ON A REGULAR CONSISTENT BASIS.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING I'M INTERESTED IN FINDING OUT.
AND LASTLY, UM, I DO WANT TO GIVE CREDIT TO THE GREAT FOOD.
UH, IF YOU ALL HAVE HAD A MEAL THERE, UH, YOU REALIZE FOOD IS EXCELLENT AND, UM, REALLY PROPS TO THE ENTIRE STAFF.
UH, BUT THE HEAD CHEF IN PARTICULAR, HILDA, WHICH DOES EXCEPTIONAL WORK, AND UM, SO WELL SYDNEY NEEDS SALT.
BUT IT'S, IT'S INTENTIONAL IN ORDER FOR US TO BE HEALTHY,
UM, BUT TO THE BROADER POINT, LOOK, WE ARE AT A POINT WHERE WE HAVE BEEN, UH, DISCUSSING THE POSSIBILITY OF REDUCING FUNDING FOR ON, ON A FEDERAL LEVEL, FOR MEDICARE, FOR MEDICAID, FOR UM, UH, POSSIBLY HUD.
THE INDIVIDUALS THAT GO HERE ARE NOT INDIVIDUALS THAT LIVE IN LA JOLLA AND ARE, AND ARE, YOU KNOW, OVERSEEING THEIR BEAUTIFUL PROPERTY OFF A CLIFF.
SO THE INSINUATION OF THAT IS ALMOST INSULTING AND INCREDIBLY FRUSTRATING.
THE PEOPLE THAT GO HERE ARE PEOPLE THAT NEED FOOD.
AND I THINK WE AS A SOCIETY MUST PROVIDE FOR THOSE MOST IN NEED, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE HAVE THE RESERVE, THE HEALTHY RESERVE AMOUNT THAN WE DO.
SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE US TO THINK OF HOW WE CAN EXPAND THE PROGRAM, FIND MORE FUNDING FOR THE PROGRAM, ASK UH, FOR, GET MORE GRANTS, TALK TO THE COUNTY, MAKE SURE THAT WE EXPAND THE PROGRAM NEEDED AT A TIME WHERE OUR SENIORS ARE DESPERATELY HURTING AND THEY'RE GONNA BE HURTING EVEN MORE IN THE YEARS TO COME BECAUSE OF THIS PRESIDENCY.
ALRIGHT, WITH THAT, DO YOU, UH, DO YOU HAVE ANY, ANY MORE THERE, BECK? UH, YES.
UM, I'M, JOANNE MUST BE WATCHING BECAUSE SHE SAYS THE PERCENTAGE NOT TO INCLUDE PERCENTAGES NOT INCLUDED TO EQUAL A HUNDRED ARE THE NONS SENIORS.
SO WE DO FEED NONS, SENIORS DO PAY, SO THAT'S OKAY.
BUT GEOGRAPHICALLY, THE QUESTION WAS, I'M A SENIOR.
SO, UM, GEOGRAPHICALLY, I, I, I,
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I NEED TO FIND THAT OUT.SO WE'LL, WE'LL DRILL DOWN AND FIGURE THAT OUT.
NOW WE ARE TO THE EXPERT ON BREVITY.
BUT BEFORE I START, BEFORE I START, I LIKE TO SAY THAT, UH, HEY BRUCE, WHEN I CAME HERE IN HERE THREE AND A HALF HOURS AGO, YOU TOLD ME YOU HAD THREE MINUTES.
HE SAID YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
AND LAST, I'VE SAT HERE OVER THE PAST THREE AND A HALF HOURS, MY THREE MINUTE PLAN, IT'S NOW A 30 MINUTE PLAN.
AND, UH, BUT SMILE, A SMILE DOES NOT HURT.
AND ALL OF YOU CANNOT SEE MY DESK.
BUT I STOLE SHELLY'S POST-IT NOTES AND I'VE BEEN TAKING A LOT OF NOTES, SO I MIGHT GO OFF SCRIPT.
UM, ANYHOW, UH, TO ECHO STEVE'S, UH, MESSAGE AND, AND THE, AND MY FELLOW DIRECTOR, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
I ACTUALLY WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS AND I AM EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO SHARE WITH YOU REALLY THE VISION THAT I HAVE THAT WE HAVE OF, UH, YOUR FIRE DEPARTMENT.
URA FIRE CHIEF OF YOUR 130 7-YEAR-OLD NATIONAL CITY CLASS ONE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
I SAY THAT WITH PRIDE AND, AND WE, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ACHIEVE THAT, UH, THAT TOP ONE PERCENTILE IN THE NATION WITH YOUR SUPPORT AND, UH, AND, AND YOUR TRUST IN US.
AND REALLY, UM, IT BEGINS WITH, UH, ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO THEN CITY ADMINISTRATION COMMISSIONED A, A STUDY OF YOUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, THE CPSM STUDY.
AND, UH, WITHIN THAT THERE WAS 12 RECOMMENDATIONS AND, AND US COMMITTING TO TO, TO FOLLOWING THAT REPORT WITH YOUR SUPPORT HAVE ALLOWED US TO ACHIEVE THAT REALLY, UH, ELITE STATUS.
YOU KNOW, OUT OF THE 45,000 FIRE DEPARTMENTS IN THIS NATION, LESS THAN 1% HAVE ACHIEVED WHAT, WHAT YOUR NATIONAL CITY FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH OVER THE PAST YEAR OR SO.
I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
UM, AND WITH THAT, I'LL SAY ONE LAST THING TO ALEX.
'CAUSE HE WENT AND GOT FOOD RIGHT BEFORE MY TURN, AND NOW ALL I HEAR HIM IS CRUNCHING ON CHIPS OVER THERE.
UM, AGAIN, I WAS TOLD I HAD THREE MINUTES, SO I ONLY HAVE FOUR SLIDES,
UM, SO YEAH, THANKS FOR THAT, BRUCE, AND I'M SURE YOU'RE ALL HAPPY ABOUT THAT.
UM, AND LOCK OUR LINE OF WORK GOOD ENOUGH IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
OUR, OUR MISSION IS TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF THE PUBLIC, OUR BUSINESS OWNERS, OUR RESIDENTS, AND, AND OF EACH OTHER.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DO NOT TAKE LIGHTLY.
UH, AND OUR LINE OF WORK, AS I SAID, GOOD ENOUGH, IT'S, IT IS JUST NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
UM, AND WE CAN'T DO THAT WITHOUT PEOPLE.
SO MY FIRST, UH, OUR APPROACH IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT I'VE HEARD.
I SEE OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT NOT AS A FOR-PROFIT ORGANIZATION, BUT IT WON'T WANNA SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY.
HOWEVER, UH, SCOTT DID, UH, CHALLENGE US WITH LOOKING FOR WAYS OF COST RECOVERY.
I DO NOT REFER TO THAT, UH, AS REVENUE.
IT'S, IT'S RECOVERY OF, OF THE COST FOR OUR SERVICE TO OUR RESIDENTS.
SO, SO YOU'LL SEE, UH, WE HAVE FOUR BUDGET INITIATIVES.
NUMBER ONE, DEVELOP, HIRE, AND TRAIN PERSONNEL.
I I'VE HEARD A COUPLE COMMENTS TONIGHT FROM YOU, UH, OF THE IMPORTANCE OF OUR EMPLOYEES, AND THAT CERTAINLY HAS TO BE MY PRIORITY AS YOUR FIRE CHIEF.
UH, TOPIC NUMBER TWO WILL BE TO EVALUATE OUR EMERGENCY SERVICE DELIVERY.
AND I'VE HEARD A COUPLE COMMENTS TONIGHT REGARDING THAT WE NEED TO INVEST, INVEST TO GENERATE REVENUE, AND, AND THAT, THAT, THAT'S A BIG ONE FOR US.
I'LL TOUCH ON THAT IN DETAIL HERE SHORTLY.
THREE, ENHANCED COMMUNITY RISK REDUCTION PROGRAMS. AGAIN, OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO DO BETTER.
UH, AND, AND LASTLY, PURSUE ADDITIONAL GRANT AND REVENUE OPPORTUNITIES.
SO DIVING AT NUMBER ONE, DEVELOP, HIRE, AND TRAIN ALL PERSONNEL.
IN THAT CPS STEM STUDY THAT I SPOKE ABOUT, ONE OF THE TOPICS COVERED IN THERE WAS SUCCESSION PLANNING.
I THINK YOU'RE ALL AWARE THAT, UH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME SIGNIFICANT DEPARTURES AT THE COMMAND LEVEL OF OUR ORGANIZATION.
BEGINNING WITH CHIEF HERNANDEZ HERE.
TO MY, TO MY RIGHT, UH, SUCCESSION PLANNING IS CRITICAL FOR US TO CONTINUE TO, TO FOSTER AS A FIRE DEPARTMENT AND IMPROVE ON THE SERVICE WE PROVIDE.
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OUR COMMAND STAFF IS THE NECESSITY AND, AND A VERY IMPORTANT COMPONENT OF, OF WHAT WE DO WITHIN THAT SUCCESSION PLAN.UH, IN SLIDE NUMBER 11 OR 12, I BELIEVE YOU SAW THE, THE, UH, ADDITIONAL STAFF THAT I AM ASKING FOR A DIVISION CHIEF OF OPERATIONS, THAT, THAT IN ESSENCE IS, IS A, AN EFFORT AND, AND DESIGNED TO IMPLEMENT A SUCCESSION PLAN TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE A BRIGHT FUTURE AND OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE TO GROW AS AN ORGANIZATION.
UM, HOWEVER, I WOULD LIKE TO TOUCH ON THAT, AND I DON'T WANT TO GO BACK TO SLIDE 11 OR 12 BECAUSE WE HAVE MANY, MANY TO GO.
BUT WITHIN THAT, IT, THE STATEMENT ON SLIDE NUMBER 11 SHOWED THAT IT'S THE POSITION OF A DIVISION CHIEF IS 100% DEPENDENT ON THE GENERAL FUND.
AND, AND, AND THAT IS AN ACCURATE STATEMENT.
HOWEVER, MY PLAN IN, IN REGARDS TO FILLING THAT POSITION WITH THE DIVISION CHIEF, THAT IS BASED ON THE SAVINGS CREATED BY THE NOT, UH, NOT STAFFING TWO FIREFIGHTER POSITIONS.
SO IN MY OPINION, THAT THAT IS A BUDGET NEUTRAL ASK OF YOU.
UH, THE DIVISION CHIEF WOULD BE FUNDED THROUGH THE SAVINGS CREATED BY THE UNFILLING OF THE TWO FIREFIGHTER POSITION.
IN ACTUALITY, IT'D BE A, A SLIGHT, UH, SAVINGS IN MY PERSONNEL SERVICES.
AND I'LL TOUCH ON THAT, UH, A LITTLE DEEPER.
UH, AND AS WE, AS WE PROCEED, UH, COMMUNITY RISK PRODUCTION, CURRENTLY WE HAVE ONE VACANCY, UH, UH, ONE VACANCY.
IN COMMUNITY RISK REDUCTION, OUR INSPECTORS EQUALS TO ABOUT A 25% EFFICIENCY.
UH, CURRENTLY, IF WE WERE TO INSPECT ALL OF OUR BUILDINGS HERE IN, IN THE CITY, WE GENERATE ROUGHLY $400,000 ANNUALLY.
SO ONE INSPECTOR GENERATED ABOUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.
UH, THAT POSITION IS BUDGETED.
I'M NOT ASKING FOR AN ADDITIONAL POSITION.
IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE NOW AS WE HAD A SEPARATION FROM ONE OF OUR NEWEST EMPLOYEES.
AND THEN O OBVIOUSLY CONTINUE WITH RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION EFFORTS.
TWO YEARS AGO, AS SCOTT MENTIONED, WE HAD A, UH, COUNCIL PRIORITIES COUNCIL, UH, MEETING OVER AT THE LIBRARY.
OR ONE OF YOUR PRIORITIES WAS TO, TO HIRE FROM THE COMMUNITY.
WE HAVE DONE THAT OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS.
WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO HIRE TWO LOCAL, UH, YOUNG FOLKS THAT ARE NOW PART OF OUR ORGANIZATION.
AND AS A MATTER OF FACT, ONE OF THEM IS GONNA BE GONNA PARAMEDIC SCHOOL.
SO INVESTING IN OUR PEOPLE IS CRITICAL TO WHAT WE DO.
UM, NUMBER TWO, EVALUATE EMERGENCY SERVICE DELIVERY.
AND, AND REALLY HERE, IT, IT IS A BRIGHT OPPORTUNITY FOR US.
UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE LOOKED AT THAT MIGHT APPEAR SOMEWHAT CONTROVERSIAL IN YOUR EYES IS A, WHAT IS TERMED AS THE FIRST RESPONDER FEE.
AND THIS WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT, THAT I BROUGHT UP THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION.
AND, AND THE FIRST RESPONDER FEE REALLY CAPTURES THE, THE TASK OF, OF, OF YOUR FIREFIGHTERS ARRIVING ON SCENE, ASSEMBLY'S HOME, AND PROVIDING PRE-HOSPITAL EMERGENCY CARE FROM THE MOMENT WE ARRIVE TO WHERE THE MOMENT THEY'RE TRANSPORTED, RIGHT? AND THAT FEE WOULD NOT BE BORN BY THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY.
THAT'D BE A FEE THAT WOULD BE BORN TO THE INSURANCE COMPANIES.
SO I WANNA BE CLEAR IN THAT THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO, AGAIN, TO, TO LOOK AT, AT ADDITIONAL COST RECOVERY METHODS.
AND ONE THAT WE ARE EXPLORING, UH, CURRENTLY.
ADDITIONALLY, ONE THAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED, UH, OVER THE PAST 18 TO 24 MONTHS IS OUR GROUND EMERGENCY MEDICAL TRANSPORT.
UH, WE'VE BRIEFED ON, ON, ON THAT TOPIC IN THE PAST.
CURRENTLY WE HAVE A, UH, CONSULTANT LOOKING AT WHAT THE BEST OPTIONS FOR THE CITY, UH, TO PROVIDE A BETTER LEVEL OF SERVICE FOR OUR RESIDENTS, WHILE ENABLING US TO CAPTURE A LARGER SOURCE OF OUR COST.
UM, WE WILL HAVE THAT REPORT AT SOME POINT HERE IN THE NEAR, I, I'D SAY MID-AUGUST, AND GIVE US AN IDEA OF, OF REALLY WHAT THOSE, WHAT THAT OPPORTUNITY LOOKS LIKE.
BUT AS, UH, COUNCILMAN RODRIGUEZ MENTIONED, IT'S NECESSARY FOR US TO INVEST, TO GENERATE OR RECOVER COST.
AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT ALTHOUGH IT WILL, UH, NEED A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT FROM THE CITY UP FRONT, UH, BASED ON THE ROUGH ESTIMATES THAT WE HAVE DONE, BASED ON, UH, ANALYSIS, OUR, OUR VOLUME AND OUR PAYER MIX IS SOMETHING THAT WE, WE CAN LOOK AT WITH A, WITH A, A HIGH DEGREE OF CONFIDENCE AND BE ABLE TO RECOVER A SIGNIFICANT COST TO WHAT OUR EXPENSES ARE.
SO, UH, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE LOOK FORWARD TO HERE IN THE NEAR, IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
NUMBER THREE, ENHANCED COMMUNITY RISK REDUCTION PROGRAMS. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE SPENT QUITE A BIT OF TIME OVER THE PAST YEAR.
UH, WE IMPLEMENTED A NEW ORDINANCE AND A NEW, A NEW SELF-INSPECTION PROGRAM.
I THINK, UH, SEVERAL MEETINGS AGO,
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IT WAS BROUGHT TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT WE HAD LOST ABOUT $300,000 IN, IN, IN LOST REVENUE AS A RESULT OF, UH, THE SUSPENSION OF, OF CHARGING THOSE FEES.AS WE DEVELOP THIS, THIS NEW ORDINANCE, WE HAVE DONE THAT, AND BASED ON THE, ON, UH, PROJECTIONS THAT OUR COMMUNITY RISK RUSSIAN STAFF HAS DONE, IF WE ARE ABLE TO, UH, THROUGH THIS NEW ORDINANCE, HAVE NOT ONLY THE AUTHORITY TO DO THIS AND ARE ABLE TO BE, WHILE IT IS A SOURCE OF COST RECOVERY FOR, FOR US, WE ALSO LIKE TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC AND REALLY WHAT IS SAFE.
UH, CERTAINLY THE, THE, THE FOCUS OF COMMUNITY RISK REDUCTION IS, IS, IS PREVENTION OF, OF ANY KIND OF INCIDENT.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE, WE LOOK FORWARD TO.
WE HAVE A, WE'RE STILL DEVELOPING THE PROGRAM FULLY AND HOW WE'RE GONNA CAPTURE THAT REVENUE OR THE COST RECOVERY, BUT ANOTHER BRIGHT SPOT FOR US MOVING FORWARD.
I DID MENTION AS WE STARTED THAT YOU WILL NOT SEE THE WORD, YOU KNOW, COST CUTTING, COST SAVING MEASURES.
OUR FOCUS HAS BEEN ON, ON REALLY HOW TO, HOW TO RECOVER COSTS, COSTS, UM, SOMETHING WE'RE LOOKING AT AS A FALSE ALARM COORDINATED POSITION.
I THINK SOMETHING WE SPOKE THAT ABOUT THAT IN THE PAST, BASED ON, ON, ON ROUGH ESTIMATES, WE, WE ESTIMATE ABOUT A HUNDRED TO $120,000, UH, COST RECOVERY IN JUST THAT CONCEPT.
SO AGAIN, WE'RE FOCUSING ON, ON A WASTE BY WHICH TO INCREASE OUR AND CAPTURE COSTS.
AND THEN LASTLY, PURSUE ADDITIONAL GRANT AND REVENUE OPPORTUNITIES.
UM, AS YOU ALL KNOW, WHAT WALTER RAM, OUR EMERGENCY MANAGER, HAS BEEN VERY, VERY AGGRESSIVE IN, IN THE PURSUIT OF GRANTS OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS.
HE HAS BROUGHT, UH, MILLIONS OF DOLLARS INTO OUR, INTO THE CITY THROUGH HIS PURSUIT OF GRANTS.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE, THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY THAT WE SEE THAT WE CAN CONTINUE AND REALLY FOCUS OUR EFFORTS CURRENTLY.
UH, HERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF SOME OF THE GRANTS THAT, THAT ARE EITHER IN PROGRESS OR THAT WE ARE, UH, OR THAT WALTER IS LOOKING AT.
WE HAVE ABOUT $500,000 CURRENTLY IN, IN GRANT, UH, REQUEST, NOT COUNTING, UH, THE ONE THAT YOU'LL SEE TOWARDS THE MIDDLE THERE, THE ASSISTANCE OF FIREFIGHTER GRANT AND THE SAFER GRANT.
WE HAVE JUST, UH, ASKED FOR THE FUNDING FOR THREE FIREFIGHTER POSITIONS, AGAIN, TO OFFSET THE COSTS OF THE CITY IN REGARDS TO, TO STAFFING YOUR APPARATUS.
UH, AGAIN, JUST A SMALL, A SAMPLE OF OF, OF WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.
UM, REALLY THESE NEXT SLIDES ARE, ARE KIND OF OUT OF ORDER.
THESE NUMBERS AREN'T QUITE ACCURATE AS WE WERE KIND OF PRESSED FOR TIME.
BUT, UH, I, I MENTIONED THE OPERATIONS DIVISION CHIEF.
AGAIN, BUDGET NEUTRAL IN, IN OUR APPROACH.
WE WILL FUND THAT POSITION WITH THE SAVINGS CREATED BY THE TWO UNFILLED FIREFIGHTER POSITIONS, UH, THE THREE FIREFIGHTERS THAT YOU SEE RIGHT THERE.
WE HAVEN'T SPOKEN MUCH ABOUT OUR UNI MUNICIPAL SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH THE PORT.
THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO, TO, TO SHARE A SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCE.
THE CITY OF CHULA VISTA RESPONDS TO THE PORT WITH FOUR FIREFIGHTERS.
THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO RESPOND TO THEIR PORT FOR FOUR FIREFIGHTERS.
OUR PORT DISTRICT IS MUCH MORE INDUSTRIAL.
THERE ARE MANY MORE HAZARDS PRESENT TO OUR PORTLANDS.
SO PERHAPS WE CAN PURSUE, I CAN PURSUE THAT.
WE CAN PURSUE THAT AS A SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCE AND HAVE THEM GIVE US THOSE THREE FIREFIGHTERS THAT WE'RE IN NEED OF.
AND OBVIOUSLY CURRENTLY WE ARE APPLYING FOR THE SAFER GRANT, AGAIN, TO BE ABLE TO OFFSET THE, THE CITY'S EXPENDITURES.
UM, THE FIRE INSPECTORS WE TALKED ABOUT, EACH FIRE INSPECTOR GENERATES ABOUT A HUNDRED TO $120,000 IN COST RECOVERY FOR THE CITY.
UH, WALTER IS CURRENTLY PURSUING A GRANT WHERE WE WOULD MATCH THE, MATCH THE, UH, THE AMOUNT OF THE GRANT WHERE WE WOULD GET TWO FIRE INSPECTORS FOR THE PRICE OF ONE, HAVE THE ABILITY TO GENERATE ADDITIONAL COST RECOVERY FOR THE CITY.
UM, BUT CERTAINLY THE OPERATIONS DIVISION CHIEF IS ONE THAT I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS WITH YOU.
UM, AS WE FINISH OUR, MY PRESENTATION, UM, AND I, I TOUCHED ON THIS RIGHT, EVALUATE EMERGENCY SERVICE DELIVERY, THE EMERGENCY MEDICAL TRANSPORT, WE ARE WORKING ON THAT.
IT'S CALLED GROUND EMERGENCY MEDICAL TRANSPORT.
THE ONE THAT YOU DO NOT SEE UP THERE IS THE FIRST RESPONDER FEE.
AGAIN, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO, TO GENERATE, UH, REVENUE OR, OR, OR COST RECOVERY FOR THE CITY.
ANOTHER, UH, AREA THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS TO INCREASE THE CAPABILITY OF OUR EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER.
IF YOU RECALL, ABOUT TWO A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, WE HAD THE STORMS, UH, AND IT CAME TO OUR ATTENTION THAT OUR FACILITIES ARE EXTREMELY OUTTA DATE.
AND WALTER IS CURRENTLY PURSUING GRANT OPPORTUNITIES FOR THAT.
AND REALLY, UM, I I JUST TOUCHED ON THE CONTRACT FIRE INSPECTOR COMPONENT OF THAT, AGAIN, WAYS BY WHICH TO OFFSET THE CITY'S, UH, EXPENDITURES REGARDING THESE
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PROGRAMS. UM, AND WITH THAT, I THINK I WENT A LITTLE OVER MY THREE MINUTES, BUT I AM OPEN FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.UH, THANK YOU CHIEF MORA, THE, UH, SAFER GRANT WHO FUNDS THAT.
THAT IS A FEDERAL GRANT, THAT'S A FEDERAL GRANT.
IT OPENED UP TWO DAYS AGO, AND WE'VE APPLIED FOR THREE POSITIONS TO THE TUNE OF ABOUT $490,000.
AND THIS IS A GRANT WE'VE RECEIVED IN THE PAST.
WE'VE APPLIED FOR AND RECEIVED, THAT IS CORRECT.
WE, UH, APPLIED FOR THE SAFER GRANT, UH, I THINK IT WAS ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO, WALTER, IS THAT CORRECT? ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO.
AND, AND, AND THEY FUNDED FIVE POSITIONS.
UH, ONE OF MY CONCERNS AS THE FIRE CHIEF IS THESE GRANTS OUR TIME LIMITED, RIGHT? SO WHEN, WHEN WE'RE APPLYING FOR THESE GRANTS, I HAVE TO LOOK AT FUTURE SEPARATIONS TO ENSURE THAT THE FOLKS THAT WE HIRE TODAY ARE NOT OUT OF A JOB IN THREE YEARS.
SO WE LOOK AT THAT COMPONENT PRIOR TO APPLYING TO THESE GRANTS, BECAUSE CERTAINLY, AGAIN, INVESTING IN OUR EMPLOYEES HAS TO BE MY PRIORITY AND, UH, ENSURE THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, A STEADY AND, AND, AND, UH, INVESTED WORKFORCE.
AND OUTSIDE OF THE, UM, THE POSITIONS THAT YOU'RE REQUESTING, IT WAS SLIDE 33.
ARE YOU FULLY STAFFED? NO, CURRENTLY I HAVE, UH, AND I'M GONNA SPEAK ABOUT JUST THE FIREFIGHTER POSITIONS.
I AM, I AM BUDGETED FOR 20 FIREFIGHTER POSITIONS.
CURRENTLY, THIS, THIS FISCAL YEAR, WE'VE ONLY HAD 18 FIREFIGHTERS.
UH, SO WE'VE HAD A SAVINGS IN MY PERSONNEL SERVICE SERVICES OF, OF TWO FIREFIGHTER POSITIONS, ROUGHLY ABOUT 209, 200 $90,000 OR SO.
WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO WITH, WITH THAT IS CREATE THE DIVISION CHIEF OF OPERATIONS, WHICH WILL DO SEVERAL THINGS FOR THE DEPARTMENT.
FIRST OF ALL, IT'S IN OUR OPINION, BUDGET NEUTRAL.
IT IS ASKING FOR A NEW POSITION, BUT IT IS WHOLLY FUNDED BY MY CURRENT BUDGET.
AND REALLY THE INTENT OF THIS POSITION, AGAIN, IS TO ENHANCE THE OPERATIONAL CAPABILITIES OF THE OPERATIONS DIVISION.
I DO NOT HAVE AN ORGANIZATIONAL CHART, BUT MY PREDECESSORS HERE, BUT IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO, I DUNNO IF ALEX HAS ONE FROM PD, BUT, UH, THE DIVISION CHIEF OF OPERATIONS WOULD BE IN CHARGE OF THE OPERATIONS DIVISION AND, AND MAKE THAT DIVISION MUCH MORE EFFICIENT, WHILE AT THE SAME TIME ALLOWING ME TO BRING THAT PERSON ONTO THE ADMINISTRATION SIDE AND, AND BEGIN REALLY THE SUCCESSION PLAN FOR MY POSITION AS I'LL BE LEAVING SOMETIME THIS, THIS FISCAL YEAR.
AND REALLY, UH, THAT'S OF CRITICAL IMPORTANCE TO HAVE THAT CONTINUITY IN, IN WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.
RIGHT? I SPOKE OF OUR CPSM STUDY AND THERE WAS 12 RECOMMENDATIONS WITHIN THAT IN AN EVALUATION OF HOW WE CAN DO BETTER AS A FIRE DEPARTMENT.