Nov 04, 2024 Planning Commission

[Housing Authority]

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I HEREBY CALL THE SPECIAL HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING OF THE HOUSING COMMITTEE OF THE CITY OF NATIONAL, CITY OF NOVEMBER 4TH, 2024 AT 6:01 PM TO ORDER.

BEFORE WE PROCEED, I REQUEST THE INTERPRETER TAKE A MOMENT TO EXPLAIN THE CITY'S INTERPRETATION SERVICES THAT WILL BE OFFERED FOR THIS EVENING'S HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING.

AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.

SO THE INTERPRETER PLEASE.

THANK YOU, CHAIR.

UM, INTERPRETATION IS BEING PROVIDED.

I WILL PROVIDE INSTRUCTIONS FOR ANY SPANISH SPEAKERS.

WE WANNA START, AND THANK YOU, CHAIR.

THANK YOU, MR. INTERPRETER.

UM, ALSO IF ANYBODY WANTS THE, UH, SERVICES PROVISIONS HAVE BEEN MADE IN THE ADJOINING ROOM, I BELIEVE, IF YOU WANT TO, UM, GO THERE.

OKAY.

UM, LET'S MOVE ON THEN.

A LIVE WEBCAST OF THIS MEETING MAY BE VIEWED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE AT TTPS SLASH SLASH WWW NATIONAL C DCA GOV SLASH WEBCAST.

THE NOTICE AGENDA AND INFORMATION ON THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY'S WEBSITE INFORM THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT THEY MAY SUBMIT PUBLIC COMMENT ON A SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEM IN A NUMBER OF WAYS.

FIRST, BY EMAIL AT PLC PUB, COMMENT@NATIONALCITYCA.GOV NO LATER THAN FOUR HOURS BEFORE THE MEETING.

SECOND VIA ZOOM BY PREREGISTERING ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE, NO LATER THAN FOUR HOURS BEFORE THE MEETING AT HTTPS SLASH SLASH WWW NATIONAL CITY CA.GOV/PUBLIC COMMENT, PUBLIC COMMENT.

THIRD, THE PUBLIC CAN PROVIDE COMMENT IN PERSON HERE AT THIS MEETING, ALL WRITTEN COMMENTS RECEIVED WILL BE DISTRIBUTED TO THE HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE AS APPROPRIATE PRIOR TO THEIR RESPECTIVE MEETINGS AND PUBLISHED ON THE CITY WEBSITE.

IF RECEIVED BY THE DEADLINE, I REQUEST THE HOUSING ADVISORY SECRETARY, NOW PROCEED WITH ROLL CALL VICE CHAIR CASTLE CASTLE.

PRESENT COMMISSIONER OR COMMITTEE MEMBER ARM PRESENT COMMITTEE MEMBER FOREMAN.

PRESENT COMMITTEE MEMBER ES PRESENT COMMITTEE MEMBER SANCHEZ.

PRESENT COMMITTEE MEMBER VALENZUELA.

HERE.

COMMITTEE MEMBER VALDEZ HERE.

COMMITTEE MEMBER KOKI PRESENT AND CHAIR MILLER PRESENT.

I NOW CALL ON COMMISSIONER QUINONES TO LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEG ALLEGIANCE.

PLEASE STAND, PLEASE STAND.

READY, BEGIN.

I PLEDGE.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH THE STANDS.

ONE NATION GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER QUINONES.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

WE WILL NOW HEAR PUBLIC COMMENTS ON ITEMS OR MATTERS THAT ARE NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA UNDER STATE LAW.

WE CANNOT RESPOND TO PUBLIC COMMENTS AND ITEMS REQUIRING HOUSING ADVISORY ACTION.

THESE ITEMS MUST BE BROUGHT BACK ON A SUBSEQUENT AGENDA UNLESS THEY ARE OF A DEMONSTRATED EMERGENCY OR URGENT NATURE.

MADAM SECRETARY, ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS NOT RELATED TO TONIGHT'S AGENDA? NO.

CHAIR.

THANK YOU.

BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE REST OF THE MEETING COMMITTEE MEMBERS TONIGHT, WE WILL NOT BE UTILIZING THE ELECTRONIC VOTING SYSTEM.

THEREFORE, CAN YOU PLEASE VERBALIZE YOUR MOTIONS AND BE PREPARED TO VOTE BY HAND.

WE WILL NOW BEGIN CONSIDERATION OF THE ITEMS ON TONIGHT'S SPECIAL HOUSING ADVISORY AGENDA.

ITEM ONE IS FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA FOR THE SPECIAL HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE OF

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IF THERE IS NO DISCUSSION FROM THE HOUSING COMMITTEE, DO I HAVE A MOTION? I MAKE A MOTION.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND THAT MOTION.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMITTEE MEMBER, VICE CHAIR CASTLE, AND A SECOND BY, UH, COMMITTEE MEMBER SANCHEZ TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.

THE COMMITTEE WILL NOW VOTE BY HAND.

MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE DECLARE THE RESULT OF THE VOTE.

MOTION APPROVE UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU.

ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA, UH, EXCUSE ME, ITEM TWO ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA IS FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE SPECIAL HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING OF DECEMBER 4TH, 2023.

IF THERE IS NO DISCUSSION, DO I HAVE A MOTION? I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY VICE CHAIR KASSEL AND A SECOND BY COMMITTEE MEMBER QUINONES TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.

THE COMMITTEE WILL NOW AGAIN VOTE BY HAND.

MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE DECLARE THE RESULTS OF THE VOTE.

MOTION APPROVE UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU.

WE'LL NOW MOVE ON TO ITEM THREE, THE 20 25 20 29 HUD CONSOLIDATED PLAN, PUBLIC INPUT SESSION.

I WILL NOW TURN IT OVER TO STAFF FOR THEIR PRESENTATION.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

WE'RE JUST GOING TO BRING UP A POWERPOINT.

UH, MY NAME IS ANGELITA PALMA WITH THE NATIONAL CITY HOUSING AUTHORITY AT COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.

THIS EVENING I'LL BE PRESENTING ON OUR HEAD FIVE YEAR CONSOLIDATED PLAN AND 25 26 ANNUAL ACTION PLAN.

WE'RE GONNA NEED, UH, JUST A SECOND HERE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

RIGHT BACK.

UM, SINCE WE DON'T HAVE OUR POWERPOINT AVAILABLE, I CAN KIND OF TALK THROUGH WHAT OUR HEAD FIVE YEAR CONSOLIDATED PLAN IS.

UM, JUST SO I AM KNOW, DO YOU HAVE IT IN YOUR PACKETS? THE POWERPOINT? UM, SO THE AUDIENCE KNOWS THERE IS A SURVEY OUT IN THE LOBBY THAT I'LL BE REFERENCING.

UM, WE DO, UM, HAVE THIS SURVEY AVAILABLE IN ENGLISH, SPANISH, AND TAGAL.

WE HAVE IT FOR OUR HEAD FIVE YEAR CONSOLIDATED PLAN.

SO THE CITY RECEIVES, UH, FUNDING FROM THE US DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT, UH, FOR TWO BLOCK GRANTS THAT WE RECEIVE.

ONE FOR OUR COMMUNITY COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT, AND, UH, SECOND FOR OUR HOME INVESTMENT PARTNERSHIPS BLOCK GRANT.

SO, UM, THERE ARE TWO PLANNING DOCUMENTS THAT THE CITY IS REQUIRED TO DO TO RECEIVE THESE ENTITLEMENT FUNDS.

UH, SO ONE WOULD BE THE FIVE-YEAR CONSOLIDATED PLAN, WHICH THE SURVEY IS FOR.

AND THEN THE SECOND IS FOR ANNUAL ACTION PLAN.

SO THE FIVE YEAR CONSOLIDATED PLAN, UM, WILL, UM, ESTABLISH HOW THE CITY'S HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT NEEDS FOR OUR CDBG AND HOME FUNDS WILL BE USED OVER A FIVE YEAR PERIOD.

AND THEN EACH YEAR WITH, UM, OUR ENTITLEMENT FUNDS THAT WE WERE RECEIVE FROM HUD IN THE FORM OF OUR CDBG AND HOME GRANTS.

UM, THE, UH, STAFF MAKES RECOMMENDATIONS BASED OFF OF THE APPLICATIONS WE RECEIVE FOR FUNDING TO THE COUNCIL.

AND, UM, THEN WE, UH, THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE, ARE VOTED ON BY THE COUNCIL AND WE CAN THEN ADMINISTER THE PROGRAMS. SO A BIG PART OF THIS IS COMMUNITY INPUT.

UM, WE ALSO HAVE A VERY TRANSPARENT PROCESS.

WE HAVE A COMMUNITY, UM, AND CITIZEN PARTICIPATION PLANS.

SO WE, UH, A VERY, UH, THOROUGH, UM, PUBLIC PARTICIPATION PLAN PROCESS, AND WE DO WANNA GET FEEDBACK.

UM, SO ONE WAY THAT

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SO WE HAVE IT AVAILABLE ONLINE.

UH, YOU CAN, UM, THERE IS A LINK AVAILABLE ON OUR CDBG AND HOME WEBPAGE.

SO THAT'S AT NATIONAL CITY CA.GOV DASH HOME.

WE ALSO HAVE HARD COPIES AVAILABLE AT CITY HALL, THE LIBRARY AND, UM, OUR COMMUNITY SERVICE BUILDINGS, UH, TO INCLUDE, UH, THE MLK JUNIOR COMMUNITY CENTER.

WE HAD OUR, WE HAVE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS AS A PART OF THIS PROCESS FOR THE FIVE FIVE-YEAR CONSOLIDATED PLAN.

WE HAD OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING IN DEC IN SEPTEMBER, AND THEN WE HAVE A SECOND PUBLIC HEARING IN, UH, THE SPRING OF 2025.

SO, UM, IT IS A PROCESS TO DEVELOP THIS PLAN.

AND, UM, I WILL SAY THAT THE SURVEY DOES CLOSE IN, UM, MID-NOVEMBER, AND WE ARE RELEASING APPLICATIONS IN, UM, JANUARY OF 2025 FOR THIS FUNDING THAT I MENTIONED FOR THE CDBG AND HOME PROGRAMS. SO, UH, JUST MORE ABOUT THE SURVEY, UM, THE SURVEY ALLOWS COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND STAKEHOLDERS, UH, TO IDENTIFY NEEDS RELATED TO HOUSING OPTIONS, UH, HOUSING SERVICES, PUBLIC FACILITIES, INFRASTRUCTURE, AND SOCIAL .

SO, UM, AGAIN, WE HAVE A SURVEY LINK AVAILABLE ON OUR PROGRAMS PAGE THAT'S NATIONAL CITY CA GOV SLASH CBG DASH HOME.

AGAIN, UH, THE SURVEY IS AVAILABLE IN ENGLISH, SPANISH, AND TAGALOG.

AND, UH, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, I CAN TAKE THEM AT THIS TIME, OR IF YOU HAVE ANY FEEDBACK, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO NOTE IT.

AND I DO ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO TAKE THIS SURVEY.

WE'VE HAD A GOOD RESPONSE SO FAR, BUT IT'S ALWAYS, UM, GOOD TO GET MORE FEEDBACK FROM OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR STAKEHOLDERS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MS. PALMER.

ANY QUESTION? OKAY.

UH, VICE CHAIR CASTLE.

I, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.

UM, THE, THE, UM, THE SCHEDULE FOR, FOR THIS, THESE, THIS SHOWS KIND OF WHERE IT'S AT.

UM, HOW IS THIS BEING ADVERTISED BECAUSE I HADN'T HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

UM, WHERE, WHERE ARE YOU GUYS ADVERTISING AND, AND WHERE'S THIS SURVEY BEING PROJECTED OUT TO? SURE.

UM, AGAIN, WE DO HAVE A VERY TRANSPARENT PROCESS, UM, AS REQUIRED BY HUD.

UH, WE DO HAVE A CITIZEN AND COMMUNITY PARTICIPATION PLAN ONLINE.

UM, IT HASN'T CHANGED, UM, IN THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS.

WE HAVE IT ON OUR CBG AND HOME WEBPAGE.

WE'VE ADVERTISED ON OUR, UH, CITY WEBSITE, AT OUR COUNCIL MEETINGS WITH A PUBLIC HEARING.

AND, UH, THE SURVEY HAS GONE OUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND, UM, AGAIN, UH, JUST ANNOUNCED AT VARIOUS EVENTS.

AND, UH, ALSO, I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT WE'VE HAD, UH, HARD COPIES OF OUR SURVEYS BROUGHT TO OUR DIFFERENT PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE, UM, TAKING PLACE IN THE COMMUNITY ALSO TO OUR COMMUNITY CENTERS, UM, SUCH AS THE LIBRARY, UM, OUR RECREATIONAL CENTERS AND OUR, UH, SENIOR ACTIVITIES.

THANK YOU.

UM, ALSO, YOUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING THAT YOU HAD, HOW MANY PEOPLE DID YOU HAVE IN ATTENDANCE? UM, THE PUBLIC HEARING TOOK PLACE DURING A CITY COUNCIL MEETING, AND I, UM, I DIDN'T COUNT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE PRESENT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

WE WILL NOW HEAR LIVE FROM MANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WISH TO SPEAK.

I HAVE MORE QUESTIONS.

OKAY.

UH, YEAH, I, I TOOK HER OUT OF ORDER.

I SHOULD HAVE ASKED FOR PUBLIC INPUT FIRST AND THEN WE'LL ASK QUESTIONS.

OKAY.

UH, WE WILL NOW HEAR LIVE FROM MANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER.

UH, EACH PERSON MAY ADDRESS THE HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR A MAXIMUM TIME OF THREE MINUTES.

MADAM SECRETARY, ARE THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER, EITHER IN PERSON OR ON ZOOM? NO, CHAIR.

THANK YOU.

UH, CHAIR RECOGNIZES, UH, COMMITTEE MEMBER FOREMAN.

THANK YOU.

YOU SAID ADVERTISING

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WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? UM, I, I APOLOGIZE.

I MAY HAVE MISSPOKE.

UM, SO, UH, WE ARE ADVERTISING THE SURVEY, UM, AND THEN WITH REGARDS TO THE CDBG AND HOME APPLICATIONS THAT WILL BE RELEASED, UM, IN JANUARY OF 2025, UM, WE AS, UM, WE DO NOTIFY THE PUBLIC, UM, OF, UH, THE APPLICATION PROCESS OF, UH, THE NOTICE OF FUNDING AVAILABILITY.

SO, UM, AGAIN, WE, WE TRY TO HAVE A VERY TRANSPARENT PROCESS.

SO, UM, WE SEND OUT EMAILS, WE PUT IT ON OUR WEBSITE.

UM, WE DO OUTREACH TO OUR STAKEHOLDERS, UM, AND ANNOUNCE IT AT AT MEETINGS AS WELL.

SO THIS IS FUNDING, FUNDING THAT GOES OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY BASED ON APPLICATIONS.

UM, SO IT'S FUNDING THAT'S USED FOR THE COMMUNITY DUE TO LIKE THE LIMITED FUNDING AVAILABILITY THAT'S, UM, ACTUALLY AVAILABLE FOR, UM, COM QUALIFIED NONPROFITS.

UH, WE HAVE CITY DEPARTMENTS SPONSOR, UM, APPLICATIONS FROM NONPROFITS SO THAT IT'S ALIGNED WITH THE CITY'S STRATEGIC PLAN AND GOALS, UM, AND OTHER VARIOUS PLANS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE IN PLACE.

UM, SO A CITY DEPARTMENT CAN SPONSOR AN APPLICATION FROM A NONPROFIT, SO DIRECTED TO NONPROFITS.

UM, YES, IT, IT DOES.

UM, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A NONPROFIT THAT, THAT WOULD RECEIVE THIS FUNDING.

AND, UM, THEY NEED TO, UH, BE AN ESTABLISHED NONPROFIT.

SO, UM, THEY HAVE TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF ALL OF THEIR, UM, EVERYTHING IN PLACE.

UH, SO WE, WE KINDA HAVE LIKE A CHECKLIST AND, UM, WE WOULD OFFER TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE IF NEEDED.

OKAY.

SO, UH, CHAIR RECOGNIZES COMMITTEE MEMBER QUINONES.

IS THERE, IS THERE A LIST OF THOSE NONPROFITS? UM, YES.

WE, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A VERY COMPREHENSIVE LIST OF NONPROFITS.

UM, SO WE HAVE COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS, HOUSING, UH, DEVELOPERS, UH, JUST NUMEROUS, UH, NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WE DO OUTREACH TO, UM, THAT WE'VE GATHERED OVER THE YEARS.

UM, AND IT, IT IS, UM, VERY COMPREHENSIVE.

UH, SO YES.

AND IF SOMEBODY WANTED A COPY OF THAT LIST, IS IT AVAILABLE TO 'EM? UM, YES.

IT, IT IS A PUBLIC RECORD, SO IT COULD BE, UM, REQUESTED.

UM, SO IT IS AVAILABLE, UH, AND WE, UM, YOU KNOW, DO GET AUDITED BY HUD.

UM, AND SO THEY DO ASK TO SEE DOCUMENTATION, UH, BASED, UH, LIKE ON ALL OF THE OUTREACH THAT WE DO.

AND WE ACTUALLY PUT THAT IN, UM, OUR DOCUMENTS, IN OUR PLANNING DOCUMENTS.

UM, AND, UH, SO WE DO A PLAN AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR.

UM, AND THEN WE DO, UM, A PLAN TO KIND OF WRAP UP THE YEAR CALLED A, UH, CONSOLIDATED ANNUAL, UH, PERFORMANCE REPORT.

AND, UH, SO ALL OF THE OUTREACH AND, UM, ALL OF THAT DOCUMENTATION IS INCLUDED IN THE PLAN, AND IT CAN BE VIEWED ON OUR WEBSITE, OUR, UH, CDB, UH, CDB BG AND HOMEPAGE.

SO AGAIN, NATIONAL CITY CA DO, UH, GOV CDBG DASH HOME.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

UM, CHAIR RECOGNIZES COMMITTEE MEMBER KOLINSKY, YOU HAVE A TENTATIVE DATE IN SPRING 20? NO.

UM, SO, UH, WHEN WE WILL GO BACK, WHEN, WE'LL, WHEN WE'LL ACTUALLY RELEASE THE CONSOLIDATED PLAN AND ANNUAL ACTION PLAN, UH, WE DON'T, IT SHOULD BE, UH, BEFORE MAY 15TH, WHICH IS OUR, UH, UM, A STATUTORY DEADLINE GIVEN BY HEAD.

UM, BUT WE HOPE TO HAVE IT COMPLETED BEFORE THEN.

AND I BELIEVE, UH, DIRECTOR GARY HAS A COMMENT.

YES.

THANK YOU, ANGELITA.

SO, UH, THE CONSOLIDATED, UH, PLAN REALLY DRIVES THE APPLICATION OF FUNDING OF BOTH CDBG AND HOME.

WE'VE DONE VERY IMPORTANT, UH, COMMUNITY PROGRAM WITH THESE FUNDS IN THE PAST, INCLUDING THE PAYING FOR THE FIRE STATION 34, THAT WAS A SECTION 1 0 8 PROGRAM THROUGH CDBG FUNDING.

UH, WE'VE DONE A PLETHORA OF COMMUNITY SERVICES IN THE PAST.

WE'VE, UH, FUNDED TINY TOTS, UM,

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THERE'S A NUMBER OF, OF PROGRAMS THAT WE'VE DONE HISTORICALLY, UM, BUT IT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT, UH, FUNDING SOURCE SPECIFICALLY FOR, UH, CITY PROJECTS.

AND, UH, WE FUNDED THE ALTOON, UM, FOOTBALL MULTIPURPOSE, UH, FACILITY.

SO, POINT BEING, IT'S, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE, THE PUBLIC TO PARTICIPATE IN THE SURVEY BECAUSE FROM THE SURVEY, UH, WE DEVELOPED A PLAN AND THEN OUTREACH TO THE NONPROFITS THAT CAN FULFILL THAT.

SO, A COUPLE OF YEARS BACK, FOR INSTANCE, UH, WE WERE LOOKING AT A, UH, PROGRAM THAT WOULD, UH, AT A TENANT-BASED RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, UH, BASED ON THE SURVEY THAT WOULD, UM, ASSIST PEOPLE AT RISK OF HOMELESSNESS OR HOMELESSNESS.

AND WE HAVE PARTNERED UP WITH THE SOUTH BAY COMMUNITY SERVICES AND, UH, HAVE THIS AS AN ANNUAL ROLLING PROGRAM WHERE WE ASSIST A NUMBER OF FAMILIES, UH, IN HOMELESSNESS PREVENTION.

SO JUST A VERY IMPORTANT FUNDING SOURCE OVERALL FOR COMMUNITY PROGRAMS AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.

SO, THANK YOU, ANGELITA.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM ANY OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS? OKAY, ONE MORE.

UH, YES.

OKAY.

UH, CHAIR RECOGNIZES VICE CHAIR.

DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH THAT WE GET OR IS IT JUST A, A BRIEF OR, OR IS IT HOW MUCH WE APPLY FOR? IS IT LIKE DE DEPENDS ON THE SURVEY OR HOW DOES THAT WORK? SO WE HAVE AN IDEA BASED ON THE PREVIOUS YEAR'S, UH, FUNDING ENTITLEMENT ALLOCATION.

IT DOESN'T MOVE, UH, TOO FAR FROM THAT.

UH, SO FOR OUR HOME PROGRAM, WHICH FUNDS HOUSING AND, UH, HOUSING SERVICES, WE RECEIVE ABOUT 350,000 PER YEAR.

FOR CDBG, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OVER, UH, 500,000, UH, THAT WE CAN USE.

AND, UH, WE REALLY WANNA ALIGN THE C UM, THE, WITH THE CITY'S GOALS AND PROJECTS IN MEETING WHAT THE SURVEY RESULTS COME OUT, UM, SHOWING US.

SO WE LOOK AT NONPROFITS THAT CAN PARTNER AND THEY HAVE THE QUALIFICATIONS TO PARTNER WITH CITY DEPARTMENTS SUCH AS LITERACY PROGRAMS WITH THE LIBRARY, ET CETERA, THAT CAN ALIGN WITH THE GOALS THAT, THAT THE CITY IS ALREADY TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.

SO THAT'S HOW WE KIND OF MEET BOTH HUD'S GOALS AND THE CITY'S GOALS AT THE SAME TIME.

OKAY.

PLEASE, UM, I KNOW WE ASKED FOR THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE, BUT WHAT ABOUT THE SURVEY RESULTS? WHEN WILL WE GET, WELL, DO WE HAVE ACCESS TO THE SURVEY RESULTS AND HOW THE PUBLIC ANSWERED? OH, SURE.

YEAH, THOSE, UM, ALL OF THE SURVEY RESULTS AND ALL OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GET FROM OUR STAKEHOLDERS WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE CONSOLIDATED PLAN.

SO THAT WILL BE RELEASED, UH, IN SPRING OF 2025.

CHAIR RECOGNIZES, UH, CHAIR RECOGNIZES COMMITTEE MEMBER SANCHEZ.

JUST ONE, UH, FOLLOW UP QUESTION.

WHEN DOES THAT SURVEY CLOSE? UH, NOVEMBER 15TH, NUMBER 15? YES.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

NOW THAT'S 11 DAYS AWAY, FOLKS.

YES.

WELL, OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? THANK YOU.

OKAY.

WITH THAT, UM, THAT WILL END THE DISCUSSION ON THE 20 25, 20 29 HUD CONSOLIDATED PLAN, PUBLIC INPUT SESSION.

AND WITH THAT, WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, ADOPTION OF THE 2025 MEETING DATES FOR THIS, UH, HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

IF THERE IS NO DISCUSSION.

WELL, BEFORE WE DO THAT, LET'S, UH, TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE DATES.

UM, WE HAVE FEBRUARY 3RD, APRIL 7TH, AUGUST 18TH, AND OCTOBER 20TH OF NEXT YEAR FOR THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETINGS.

OKAY.

UM, DO WE HAVE A MOTION FROM A COMMITTEE MEMBER AND A SECOND TO ADOPT OR TO APPROVE THE, THE, UM, THE DATES SO MOVED.

SECOND.

OKAY.

I'M SORRY.

WHO, WHO MOVED? SO MOVED.

OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMITTEE MEMBER VALENZUELA AND A SECOND FROM COMMITTEE MEMBER QUIN JONAS, TO APPROVE THE DATES.

THE COMMITTEE WILL NOW VOTE BY HAND.

MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE DECLARE THE RESULTS OF

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UH, I APOLOGIZE COM.

UH, COMMITTEE MEMBER VALENZUELA, DID YOU? YES.

SO MOTION APPROVED SIX, UH, TO SEVEN, OH, I'M SORRY.

7, 6, 8 TO NINE.

SORRY, ARE YOU, ARE YOU, YEAH.

AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, UH, COMMITTEE MEMBER SANCHEZ, MAY YOU JUST LET US KNOW WHY YOU'RE, UM, YEAH, I, I THINK WE STILL ON DISCUSSION, BUT I, I'M A LITTLE BIT, I WAS A LITTLE BIT LOST, BUT I FEEL THAT THIS TOPIC SHOULD AT LEAST HAVE TWO MORE MEETINGS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

'CAUSE, UH, JUST BY, UM, ANGELITA DISCUSSING, SORRY, I, I FELT LIKE I WAS REALLY LOST.

I, NOT THAT IT'S NOT IN, IN MY, UH, YOU KNOW, REPERTOIRE TO UNDERSTAND IT.

I JUST FEEL LIKE I, WE KIND OF NEGLECT THE HOUSING ASPECT HERE AND THERE, SO THAT'S WHY I DON'T AGREE TO THESE DAYS.

I'D LIKE TO ASK TWO MORE.

I ADD TWO MORE DATES, TWO MORE DATES TO, YEAH.

UM, SECOND.

OKAY.

I, I, I WOULD DEFER TO, TO COUNSEL ON THIS BECAUSE I THINK A LOT OF IT IS DRIVEN BY THE NEED, UH, POTENTIAL AGENDAS THAT MAY COME UP BECAUSE THIS IS THE, THE ONLY MEETING WE'VE HAD THIS YEAR OF THIS COMMITTEE IN 2024.

SO I'M NOT SURE THAT, UH, TWO ADDITIONAL MEETINGS WOULD BE JUSTIFIED.

UM, SO I, I WOULD DEFER TO STAFF ON THAT.

YEAH.

SO, UH, THE PURPOSE OF THE HOUSING COMMITTEE IS REALLY TO DEAL WITH, WITH, UH, IMPORTANT POLICY CHANGES AND NOT TO ENCUMBER YOU WITH A DAY-TO-DAY KIND OF HOUSING PROGRAMMING THAT WE ALREADY DO.

SO, UH, WE'VE GOT A STRATEGIC PLAN FOR HOUSING PRODUCTION OR SOMETHING THAT YOU'VE ALREADY, UH, LOOKED AT THROUGH THE GENERAL PLAN THAT YOU APPROVED.

WE TRY TO BRING YOU THINGS THAT ARE NOVEL SUCH AS, UH, THIS FIVE YEAR CONSOLIDATED PLAN WHERE IT'S A BIGGER VISION FOR THE CITY AND NOT TO BOG YOU DOWN INTO THE PROGRAMMING.

SO, UM, I THINK EVEN WITH IT, IT'S BEEN DIFFICULT EVEN WITH FOUR SESSIONS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION OR ITEMS FOR THOSE FOUR SESSIONS.

IF WE SEE THAT THERE'S A POLICY ITEM THAT IT'S NECESSARY TO BRING TO YOU, WE COULD ALWAYS HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING AND, AND BRING UP THE HOUSING COMMITTEE.

IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT ROLE.

IT PLAYS, UH, FOR THE CITY, BUT, UM, WE DON'T WANT TO OVERBURDEN THE HOUSING, UH, UH, COMMITTEE EITHER.

SO WE BRING JUST VERY IMPORTANT IMPACTFUL POLICY DRIVEN ITEMS TO THE, TO THE COMMITTEE.

WE CAN PROVIDE INFORMATION ON PROGRAMMING AT ANY TIME.

THANK YOU, CARLOS.

ONE QUESTION I WOULD HAVE OF STAFF, UM, IS ANY, IS THE NUMBER OF MEETINGS DRIVEN AT ALL BY STATE LAW COUNSELOR? NO, IT'S NOT.

UH, THE HOUSING COMMITTEE WAS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL PUT TOGETHER BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO PRIORITIZE HOUSING POLICY RELATED ISSUES.

AND SO REALLY IT'S A, IT'S A LOCALIZED C UH, COMMITTEE.

AGAIN, IT'S BEEN VERY IMPORTANT FOR US SPECIFICALLY IN DEVELOPING, UM, HOUSING POLICIES THROUGH THE GENERAL PLAN AND REVIEWING CONSOLIDATED PLAN PROCESSES LIKE THESE.

UM, BUT OTHERWISE IT'S REALLY JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE DRIVING OUR HOUSING AGENDA IN THE CORRECT WAY.

IN, IN, IN COMPLIANCE WITH WHAT WE, WHAT THE, WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD BE, SEE AS APPROPRIATE MOVING FORWARD.

THANK YOU.

AND THE, AND THE SCHEDULED MEETINGS ARE QUARTERLY MEETINGS.

SO ONE, ONE MEETING PER QUARTER THAT'S CORRECT.

IS THAT IT REALLY DOES CLOSE THE LOOP.

THANK YOU.

UH, SO IT IS DRIVEN BY THE NEED ONE, AND THEN SECOND, YOU DON'T WANNA BOG US DOWN AND , I ALSO DON'T WANNA BE ON THIS SIDE OVERWHELMED BY A LOT OF INFORMATION AT ONCE.

SO THAT'S WHY I THOUGHT ADD TWO MORE TO BREAK IT DOWN.

YEAH.

AND IF IT'S ANY NEW POLICY OR A CHANGE IN HOUSING POLICIES FOR THE CITY, YOU'LL BE THE FIRST TO BE INFORMED OF THAT THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

DO WE NEED TO REVOTE ON THIS COUNSELOR? I HAVE DID, DID THAT CHANGE YOU? SO YOU'RE IN FAVOR NOW OF THE OR DO WE NEED COUNSEL? IT PASSED.

IT PASSED.

IT PASSED.

OKAY.

YEAH.

OKAY.

SO, SO MADAM SECRETARY, COULD YOU PLEASE RESTATE THE RESULTS OF THE VOTE? MOTION APPROVED BY 8 2 9 FOR THE RECORD, THAT'S EIGHT APPROVED WITH ONE.

ARE YOU ABSTAINING OR ARE YOU VOTING? NO.

COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ.

OKAY, SO EIGHT APPROVED ONE ABSTAIN, WHICH IS COMMITTEE MEMBER SANCHEZ.

THANK

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OKAY, THEN WE MOVE ON NOW TO STAFF REPORTS.

DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY, DO YOU HAVE ANY? NOTHING AT THIS TIME.

THANK YOU.

DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT? NOTHING AT THIS TIME.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.

NO THANK YOU.

OKAY, WE WILL MOVE THROUGH THE COMMISSION AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS VICE CHAIR CASTLE.

NOTHING TO REPORT.

UH, COMMITTEE MEMBER VALENZUELA.

NOTHING TO REPORT.

THANK YOU.

COMMITTEE MEMBER SANCHEZ? NOTHING TO REPORT.

COMMITTEE MEMBER ARMA? NOTHING TO REPORT.

COMMITTEE MEMBER QUINONE? NOTHING TO REPORT.

COMMITTEE MEMBER FOREMAN.

THANK YOU.

UH, COMMITTEE MEMBER KOLINSKY, NOTHING TO REPORT.

COMMITTEE MEMBER VALDEZ? NOTHING TO REPORT.

THANK YOU.

THE ONLY THING I WOULD REPORT IS TO ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO GET OUT AND VOTE TOMORROW, PLEASE, IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY.

OKAY.

UM, THE SPECIAL HEARING, EXCUSE ME.

THE SPECIAL HOUSING ADVISORY MEETING IS HEREBY ADJOURNED UNTIL THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING OF FEBRUARY 3RD, 2025 AT 6:00 PM THE TIME IS NOW 6:32 PM I HEREBY CALL A FIVE MINUTE RECESS.

I HEREBY

[Call To Order]

WE WILL NOW HEAR PUBLIC COMMENTS ON ITEMS OR MATTERS THAT ARE NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA UNDER STATE LAW.

WE CANNOT RESPOND TO PUBLIC COMMENTS AND ITEMS REQUIRING PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION.

THESE ITEMS MUST BE BROUGHT BACK ON A SUBSEQUENT AGENDA UNLESS THEY'RE OF A DEMONSTRATED EMERGENCY OR URGENT NATURE.

MADAM SECRETARY, ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS NOT RELATED TO TONIGHT'S AGENDA? NO.

CHAIR.

THANK YOU.

ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA, EXCUSE ME, ITEM

[1. Approval of the Agenda for the Meeting on November 4, 2024]

THAT IS THIS MEETING.

IF THERE IS NO DISCUSSION, DO I HAVE A MOTION CHAIR? WE ARE GOING TO MOVE BACK TO ELECTRONIC.

OH, THANK YOU.

YOU DID.

DID I MISS THAT? OKAY.

NO.

SO PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS, PLEASE BE ADVISED WE WILL BE VOTING ELECTRONICALLY FROM THIS POINT FORWARD.

OKAY.

SO, UM, I NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THE APPROVAL OF TONIGHT'S AGENDA, PLEASE.

SO MOVED.

I'M SORRY, WHO IS THAT? CASTLE SECOND.

I BEAT YOU TO IT.

SORRY.

.

.

OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY VICE CHAIR CASTLE AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.

THE COMMISSION WILL NOW VOTE ELECTRONICALLY.

MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE DECLARE THE VOTE.

MOTION APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU.

ITEM TWO IS

[2. Approval of Minutes from the Meeting of October 7, 2024]

IF THERE IS NO DISCUSSION, DO I HAVE A MOTION? WE HAVE A MOTION BY VICE CHAIR CASTLE AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ARMA TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.

THE COMMISSIONERS, THE COMMISSION WILL NOW VOTE ELECTRONICALLY.

MAD, SORRY.

ALRIGHT, MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE DECLARE THE RESULTS OF THE VOTE.

MOTION APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU.

THE COMMISSION WILL

[3. Determination that the project is categorically exempt from the California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA) under Class 1 of the CEQA guidelines Section 15301 (Existing Facilities) and Conditional Use Permit for beer and wine sales (ABC Type-41) at an existing restaurant (Mr. Pulpo Seafood) located at 831 E 8th Street Case File No.: 2024-20 CUP APN: 556-414-09-00.]

UH, ITEM THREE IS A PUBLIC HEARING, UH, FOR THE DETERMINATION THAT THE PROJECT IS CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT FROM THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT.

CA UNDER CLASS, ONE OF THE CA GUIDELINES SECTION 1 53 0 1, EXISTING FACILITIES AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR BEER AND WINE SALES AND A BC TYPE 41 LICENSE AT AN EXISTING RESTAURANT, MR. PULPO SEAFOOD, LOCATED AT 8 31 EAST EIGHTH STREET, NATIONAL CITY, CALIFORNIA.

I HEREBY CALL THE PUBLIC HEARING TO ORDER.

BEFORE WE BEGIN, DO ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY DISCLOSURES RELATING TO THIS HEARING? THIS IS EACH COMM PLANNING COMMISSIONERS OPPORTUNITY TO DISCLOSE ANY CONFLICTS OF INTEREST, PROPERTY INSPECTIONS,

[00:35:02]

UH, CHAIR RECOGNIZES COMMISSIONER MENTA.

UH, I HAVE BEEN TO MR. PULPO QUITE A FEW TIMES TO, UH, HAVE DINNER OR MEALS THERE, AND I'VE SPOKEN TO, UH, THE STAFF THERE.

UH, ASK A COUPLE QUESTIONS AND HAVE WALKED THE PROPERTY.

THANK YOU.

CHAIR RECOGNIZES VICE CHAIR CASTLE.

UH, LIKEWISE.

I HAVE BEEN TO THEIR, I THINK TWO OR THREE TIMES.

AND, UM, I HAVE, I HAVE EATEN THE FOOD.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

I HAVE ALSO, UM, FREQUENTED EL AND ENJOY THE FOOD.

THANK YOU MADAM SECRETARY OF THE NOTICES AS REQUIRED BY LAW BEEN GIVEN.

AND DO WE HAVE A, THE COMPLETE FILE OF EXHIBITS, CORRESPONDENCE AND OTHER DOCUMENTS? YES, JUROR.

THANK YOU.

WILL STAFF PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND SUMMARIZE THE ITEM FOR US.

GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIR, VICE CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, STAFF AND THE PUBLIC, UH, MARTIN READER, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.

I'LL BE PRESENTING THE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS TONIGHT.

THE FIRST BEING THIS 8 31 EAST EIGHTH STREET, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR ALCOHOL SALES AT A RESTAURANT, MR. PULPO SEAFOOD.

THIS IS AN OVERHEAD SHOW IN THE ROUGH AREA.

SO WE'RE AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF EIGHTH STREET AND HIGHLAND AVENUE.

IT'S, UH, IMMEDIATELY EAST OF A SEVEN 11 IN THAT LOCATION, PART OF A SLIGHTLY LARGER BUILDING, BUT THE RED SQUARE THERE SHOWS THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF THE WHOLE PROPERTY, INCLUDING PART OF THE PARKING LOT IN THE REAR.

UH, THERE ARE OF COURSE, OTHER COMMERCIAL USES UP AND DOWN HIGHLAND AND ALONG EIGHTH STREET AS WELL.

UH, AND THEN BEHIND THE PROPERTY AND, UH, FURTHER TO THE EAST, YOU HAVE SOME RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES AS WELL.

SO IT'S KIND OF A MIXED AREA.

IT IS IN CENSUS TRACT 1 1 8 0.02, WHICH IS ROUGHLY THE AREA BETWEEN DIVISION STREET, UH, 18TH PALM AND HIGHLAND AVENUE.

THE RESTAURANT IS A LITTLE OVER 2100 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE.

THE ZONE IN WHICH THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED IS THE MAJOR MIXED USE CORRIDOR ZONE, WHICH IS THIS, UH, PRETTY MUCH THE WHOLE STRETCH OF, UH, OF EAST STATE STREET UP TO THAT POINT.

THERE'S HISTORICALLY BEEN A A BAR AT THIS LOCATION.

THE PREVIOUS ALCOHOL PERMITS WERE A TYPE 40, WHICH IS ON SALE, UH, BEER FOR BARS AND TAVERNS.

GOING BACK AS FAR AS THE, I THINK THE LAST ONE WAS CABO TACOS AND BEER, WHICH DID HAVE A FOOD COMPONENT, BUT THEY WERE OPERATING UNDER A TYPE 40 LICENSE.

AND I, UH, IT'S BEEN A HISTORY OF, OF OTHER BARS, INCLUDING DAKOTA INN AND OTHERS OF THE YEARS.

UH, THIS IS A PICTURE TAKEN FROM EAST EIGHTH STREET LOOKING TO THE NORTH.

SO THERE'S ANOTHER, THERE'S A SMALLER OFFICE OR A SMALLER SUITE, UH, TO THE RIGHT HAND SIDE.

AND YOU CAN ALSO SEE THE SEVEN 11 TO THE LEFT THERE, JUST IN CASE YOU'RE LOOKING TO KNOW.

UM, SO THE APPLICANT IS ASKING TO SELL ALCOHOL WITH THE SALE OF FOOD.

SO THEY'RE APPLYING FOR A TYPE 41 LICENSE, WHICH IS ON, ON SITE OR ON SALE, BEER AND WINE, UH, WITH A BONAFIDE EATING ESTABLISHMENT.

THAT'S THE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE CONTROL WITH THE STATE.

THE APPLICANT HAS, UH, CURRENT HOURS OF NINE IN THE MORNING TO 10 AT NIGHT.

AND THOSE ARE THE PROPOSED SALES HOURS OF THE BEER AND WINE.

MOST OF THE, OF THE, UH, SUITE IS, IS DEDICATED TO SEATING, UH, AT LEAST 50% I BELIEVE.

I'LL HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK THAT IN A MOMENT.

BUT THERE'S ABOUT 1,080 SQUARE FEET OF DINING AREA UP TO 57 SEATS, INCLUDING A BAR AREA.

UH, YOU CAN SEE THAT IN THE LOCATION THERE.

SO ABOUT 50% OF THE PROPERTY OR THE IN INTERNAL FLOOR AREA IS SEATING.

UH, THERE'S A BAR AREA ON THE, OH, THERE IT IS ON THE TOP LEFT, UH, WITH ALSO SOME TABLES AND THEN SEVERAL TABLES HERE IN THE DINING AREA.

THE REST IS THE BACK OF HOUSE WHERE THE ALCOHOL WILL BE STORED AND BROUGHT TO THE TABLES UPON, UH, PURCHASE AND REQUEST.

SO OUR MUNICIPAL CODE, AS YOU KNOW, DOES HAVE SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS FOR ALCOHOL, CS INCLUDING, UH, A, UH, EXPANDED MAILING, WHICH IS 660 FEET INSTEAD OF THE NORMAL 300 FEET.

AND THAT GOES TO BOTH PROPERTY OWNERS AND TO, UM, OCCUPANTS OF THE BUILDING.

SO THAT, UH, GETS PROPERTY OWNERS AND TENANTS.

AND THAT, UH, GOT 261.

SO WE SENT OUT 261 PUBLIC NOTICES FOR, FOR THIS MEETING.

THE APPLICANT ALSO USED THE SAME, UH, MAILING LIST FOR THE COMMUNITY MEETING, WHICH WAS HELD BACK IN JULY.

THERE WERE NINE ATTENDEES AT THAT MEETING.

MOST PEOPLE WERE INTERESTED TO SEE WHAT WAS GONNA HAPPEN WITH, WITH THE PREVIOUS BAR USE AND WHAT WAS COMING.

UH, AGAIN, I I MENTIONED THE CENSUS TRACT ALREADY, BUT THERE'S ONE ON SALE LICENSE WHERE NINE ARE RECOMMENDED.

SO IT'S, IT'S WELL BELOW.

UH, IT'S VERY UNDER CONCENTRATED IN OTHER WORDS.

AND TECHNICALLY THERE

[00:40:01]

SO THIS WOULD BRING THE BUSINESS UP TO, UH, CURRENT STANDARDS.

WITH REGARD TO ALCOHOL SALES, I TALKED ABOUT THE DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS ALREADY.

WE DO REQUIRE THAT, UH, THESE TYPES OF USES OR ANYTHING INVOLVING THE SALE OF ALCOHOL OR LIVE ENTERTAINMENT BE NO CLOSER THAN OR OR NOT CLOSER THAN 660 FEET FROM A SCHOOL.

THE NEAREST SCHOOL IS, IS ABOUT 600 FEET AWAY, WHICH IS WITHIN THAT DISTANCE, A CENTRAL ELEMENTARY.

HOWEVER, IF A MINIMUM OF 30% OF THE FLOOR AREA OF THE RESTAURANT IS DEDICATED TO SEATING, THEN IT WOULD BE EXEMPT FROM THAT REQUIREMENT.

AND AS IT HAS 50% OF ITS SEATING, THEN THAT WOULD, IT'S, UH, IT'S SAFE IN THAT REGARD.

WE DO HAVE, UH, CITY COUNCIL POLICY 7 0 7, WHICH IS A POLICY RELATED TO CONDITIONS OF ALCOHOL SALES.

SO THAT IS INCLUDED WITH THE STANDARD CONDITIONS, WHICH I'LL GO INTO IN A LITTLE BIT.

AS USUAL, WE GOT A RISK ASSESSMENT FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, IN WHICH CASE THEY ISSUED NINE POINTS, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, ONE TO 12 OR ZERO TO 12 IS CONSIDERED LOWER RISK.

SO THIS IS QUITE LOW, MOSTLY BECAUSE OF THE UNDER CONCENTRATION IN THE AREA.

AND, UH, ALSO, UH, THE, THE HOURS NOT BEING TOO LATE.

WE DID ALSO ASK FOR COMMENT FROM THE INSTITUTE FOR PUBLIC STRATEGIES THAT PROVIDED, UH, THEIR STANDARD COMMENTS RELATED TO RESPONSIBLE BEVERAGE SERVICE AND SALES TRAINING FOR ALL STAFF INVOLVED IN THIS, IN THE ORDERING SALE AND DELIVERY OR SERVING OF ALCOHOL.

AND ALSO HAD A REQUIREMENT TO KEEP THE PROPERTY CLEAN AS WELL.

SO AS FAR AS THE STANDARD CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, THOSE ARE TO DO WITH THE, UH, THE PLANS THAT WERE, THAT WERE SUBMITTED.

UH, A STANDARD LANGUAGE RELATED TO POST ENTITLEMENT AS WELL AS COUNCIL POLICY 7 0 7.

THAT BEING EVERYTHING FROM HOURS OF OPERATION TO THE SALES AND SERVICE TRAINING FOR THE STAFF, MAKING SURE THAT THE SALE OF ALCOHOL DOES NOT EXCEED THE SALE OF FOOD.

MAKE SURE THAT ALCOHOL IS ONLY AVAILABLE WITH THE SALE OF FOOD, ET CETERA.

THOSE ARE STANDARD CONDITIONS OF CITY COUNCIL POLICY 7 0 7.

AND WE ALSO INCLUDED THE INSTITUTE OF PUBLIC STRATEGIES CONDITIONS RELATED TO THE ABATEMENT OF GRAFFITI AND LITTER.

THERE ARE OTHER REQUIREMENT OF SALES AND SERVICE TRAINING IS ALREADY PROVIDED AS A STANDARD CONDITION OF APPROVAL.

SO THIS USE IS CONSISTENT WITH A GENERAL PLAN, AND THAT'S, IT'S A COMMERCIAL USE IN A MIXED USE ZONE THAT ALLOWS FOR SUCH COMMERCIAL USES WITH THE ISSUANCE OF A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

IT'S AN ESTABLISHED AREA, IT'S BEEN AN ESTABLISHED, UH, ESTABLISHMENT FOR SOME TIME, ALTHOUGH IT'S, AGAIN, BRINGING IT UP TO, UH, TO CURRENT REQUIREMENTS AS WELL AS, UH, BEING ISSUED A CUP.

SHOULD THAT HAPPEN, IT WILL, UH, GET RID OF A NON-CONFORMING CUP SITUATION.

UH, WE HAVE CON THE ADDITIONAL CONCLUSIONS, EXCUSE ME, CONDITIONS THAT WE'VE ADDED WILL ENSURE THAT THE PROPERTY FUNCTIONS, UM, IN HARMONY WITH THE, WITH, WITH THE ADJACENT COMMUNITY AND DOESN'T CAUSE ANY IMPACTS.

AND THAT BASICALLY CONCLUDES MY REPORT.

SO THE, THE OPTIONS THAT I ACTUALLY, TO FIND THE PROJECT EXEMPT FROM SQA AND TO APPROVE OR TO DENY THE PROJECT, WE CAN CONTINUE IF THERE'S ADDITIONAL INFORMATION STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL BASED ON THOSE FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS ATTACHED IN YOUR, IN YOUR STAFF REPORT WITH THE RESOLUTION.

AND AS WITH ALL CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS AND NOTICE OF DECISION WILL GO TO THE CITY OF COUNCIL AT A SUBSEQUENT DATE.

SO THAT AGAIN CONCLUDES STAFF'S REPORT.

THANK YOU, MR. READER.

I NOW INVITE THE APPLICANT OR THEIR REPRESENTATIVE TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES AND ADDRESS THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO GIVE THEIR 15 MINUTE PRESENTATION.

DO WE HAVE ANYBODY FROM MR. PULPO GON MR. PULPO SEAFOOD?

[00:45:04]

I'M SORRY.

YOUR NAME IS, MY NAME IS SADA GONZALEZ GON OKAY, NOW THE TRANSLATOR WILL PROVIDE THE TRANSLATION.

THANK YOU.

OH, HELLO? OKAY, YOU CAN HEAR ME NOW? YES.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

WE CAN HEAR YOU.

THAT, THAT'S OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

SO, UH, GO AHEAD AND PLEASE PROVIDE A BRIEF, UH, TRANSLATION OF WHAT THE LADY SAID.

WILL DO.

GOOD EVENING.

I AM GONZALES.

I AM DONOR, MR. PULPO.

THIS IS MY FIRST BUSINESS AND I LOVE COOKING.

AND MY MAIN GOAL IS FOR PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY TO GET TO KNOW A RESTAURANT BECAUSE OF THE GREAT TASTE OF OUR SEAFOOD.

AND THAT'S WHY I'M HERE REQUESTING THIS PERMIT FOR THE SALE OF ALCOHOL BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, SEAFOOD AND BEER GO VERY WELL TOGETHER.

AND THIS IS A HUNDRED PERCENT FAMILY OWNED RESTAURANT.

UH, IT PROVIDES A VERY FRIENDLY ENVIRONMENT, AND THAT'S WHAT WE WANT MR. PULPO TO BE KNOWN FOR BEING A NICE FAMILY OWNED RESTAURANT WITH A GREAT ENVIRONMENT, AND ABOVE ALL GREAT TASTING SEAFOOD.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MISS.

OKAY, WILL, WE, WILL NOW HEAR LIVE FROM ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER? I DO HAVE ONE REQUEST FROM ARMANDO ROMAN.

PLEASE COME FORWARD, SIR.

GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS ARMANDO ROMAN.

I'M A, UH, RESIDENT OF NATIONAL CITY AND ALSO A CUSTOMER OF MR. PULPOS.

UM, LIKE THE OWNER SAID, THEY'RE KNOWN FOR THE GOOD QUALITY FRESH SEAFOOD, BUT SEAFOOD, ESPECIALLY THE MEXICAN SEAFOOD, GOES VERY WELL WITH A NICE COLD BEER.

AND I'VE BEEN THERE PRESENT WHEN PEOPLE HAVE COME IN AND THEY WALKED OUT OF THE RESTAURANT, NOT BECAUSE THE FOOD'S NOT GOOD, IT'S BECAUSE THEY WANT TO ENJOY THAT FRESH COCKTAIL DEMARS OR FRESH SEAFOOD ALONG WITH A BEER AND NOTHING, YOU KNOW, CRAZY ORDINARY, JUST A BEER AND A TACO.

NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.

SO I'M HERE AS A COMMUNITY MEMBER SUPPORTING MR. PULPO AND THE REQUEST FOR A BEER LICENSE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU MR. ROMAN.

I REQUEST THE SECRETARY PROCEED WITH DISCLOSING IF ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS WERE RECEIVED IN WRITING.

MADAM SECRETARY, ARE THERE ANY WRITTEN COMMENTS? NO CHAIR.

THANK YOU.

UH, WOULD STAFF LIKE TO MAKE FURTHER COMMENTS? UH, NO FURTHER COMMENT.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

THANK YOU.

DO ANY OF THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY CLARIFYING QUESTIONS OF STAFF OR THE APPLICANT? OKAY.

UH, CHAIR RECOGNIZES VICE CHAIR CASTLE, ALL THESE, UM, YES, I, I DID HAVE A QUESTION I DID NOTICE ON HERE.

UM, WELL FIRST LET ME ASK FOR THE, UM, THE HOURS OF OPERATION FOR MR. POPPO.

ARE THEY OPEN FROM 9:00 AM TO 10:00 PM BECAUSE SOMETIMES I'VE BEEN THERE AND IT'S, IT'S NOT OPEN IN THE EVENING TIME.

UH, THAT'S THE HOURS THAT WERE PROPOSED FOR ALCOHOL SALES.

OKAY.

WHICH I BELIEVE WAS, DO THEY, DO THEY SERVE FOOD WELL? WILL THEY BE OPEN FOR FOOD AS WELL DURING THOSE TIMES? THE CONDITIONS REQUIRE THAT THAT WILL BE THE CASE, YES.

OKAY.

AND THEN, UM, ALSO I DID NOTICE TWO DIFFERENT NAMES ON THE NATIONAL CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT, UM, BEVERAGE CONTROL.

I SEE SIDA, LETICIA GONZALEZ.

AND THEN ON THE BACK THOUGH, IT SAYS CHRISTIAN BALO.

SO I I JUST, THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT NAMES AND I JUST DIDN'T KNOW, UM, IF, IF THAT WAS A MISTAKE OR HOW, HOW THAT IS.

I'M NOT TOO SURE.

LET ME DOUBLE CHECK THAT.

IT'S ON THE NATIONAL CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT.

UM, THEIR, THEIR PAPER THAT'S RIGHT HERE, THE OWNER NAME ON THE FRONT DOESN'T MATCH THE OWNER NAME ON THE BACK.

YEAH, I, I I DON'T KNOW IF THAT, I CAN'T SEE THE, OBVIOUSLY

[00:50:01]

AND WHO IS THE ALCOHOL PERMIT GONNA BE GOING TO? WHICH NAME? THAT'S WHY.

OKAY.

UH, THROUGH THE CHAIR AND ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.

UH, MS. GONZALEZ IS GONNA BE THE, THE, THE LICENSEE AND THE PERSON ON THE BACK IS THE ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER.

OKAY.

OKAY.

I'M JUST, I JUST WANT CLARIFICATION.

SO SIDA LETICIA GONZALEZ IS THE APPLICANT FOR THE ALCOHOL LICENSE? THAT'S CORRECT.

AND SHE WILL HOLD THE ALCOHOL LICENSE.

AND THE, UH, CHRISTIAN BALLO IS THE, IS THE PROPERTY OWNER.

SO MS. MS, UM, SAYA, UH, SHE LEASES, LEASES THE SPACE FROM CHRISTIAN.

CORRECT.

SO IF MR. PULPO DISSOLVES OR, OR WHATNOT, UM, I'M, I'M NOT, NOT WISHING THAT UPON YOU AT ALL BECAUSE I LOVE YOUR FOOD.

OKAY.

UM, BUT IF, IF FOR SOME REASON IT DISSOLVED, THE ALCOHOL LICENSE DISSOLVES WITH HER AND IT DOESN'T, UH, TRANSFER OVER TO THE OWNER.

OH, THIS, WELL, THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT RUNS WITH THE PROPERTY.

SO THE ALLOWANCE TO HAVE ALCOHOL WILL BE THERE UNLESS IT'S DISCONTINUED FOR 12 MONTHS OR MORE, IN WHICH CASE IT WOULD GO AWAY.

HOWEVER, IF SOMEBODY ELSE WERE TO COME AND OPERATE A DIFFERENT BUSINESS, THEY WOULD HAVE TO DO IT A PERSON TO PERSON TRANSFER OR BRING IN ANOTHER LICENSE THROUGH A, B, C.

THAT'S A SEPARATE, UH, PROCESS.

SO WE HAVE THE A, B, C LICENSE AND THEN WE HAVE THE CEP.

SO THE CP RUNS WITH THE PROPERTY.

AND WHO OVERSEES THOSE? UM, THOSE TRANSFERS.

UH, A, B, C THROUGH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

MM-HMM.

CHAIR RECOGNIZES, UH, COMMISSIONER ARMINTA.

GOOD EVENING.

UH, I JUST, UH, WANTED A LITTLE BIT OF CLARIFICATION.

UH, THERE WAS MENTION THAT THERE WAS A CAPACITY FOR 57 PEOPLE.

SO THAT IS ON THE MAIN FLOOR AND THE ATTACHED ROOM.

I'M SORRY, THAT'S JUST, UH, THE FLOOR PLAN IS JUST A SINGLE AREA.

OKAY.

SO 57 PEOPLE IS, WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THE, UH, THE OCCUPANCY AS FAR AS THE AMOUNT OF SEATING, MOST OF WHAT WE'RE CONCERNED WITH IS HOW BIG THE SEATING AREA IS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT EXCEEDS THE 30% MINIMUM.

OKAY.

AND THEN I NOTICED THESE WINDOWS IN THE FRONT.

DO THEY OPEN? UH, I DON'T, I DON'T BELIEVE SO.

UH, NOT THAT I, THE, NOT THAT I CAN RECALL.

YEAH, THEY'RE SAYING YES, THE APPLICANT IS SHAKING THEIR HEAD YES.

OH, THEY ARE.

OKAY.

YES, THEY DOING, BUT, SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, IF THERE'S ALCOHOL SALES THERE, PEOPLE ARE SITTING THERE, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO ASK THEM OUT THROUGH THE WINDOW TO THE STREET.

THAT WOULD BE ILLEGAL.

THAT WOULD BE ILLEGAL.

'CAUSE THAT BE THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY AT THAT POINT.

THERE BE SIDE ON THE INSIDE.

UH, NO, BUT WE CAN, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT.

AND WE ADD SIDE WOULD PRESS A BEER.

I WOULDN'T BE HANDING ONE OUT THE WINDOW MYSELF.

.

SORRY, .

UH, WE CAN, IF, IF THE COMMISSION WISHES, WE CAN TALK ABOUT SIGNAGE TO PROHIBIT THAT, BUT YEAH, THAT WOULD BE ON THE INSIDE, YES.

YEAH.

OKAY.

ALSO, CAN I, UH, YOU PLEASE, UH, COULD YOU APPROACH THE DI DON'T REMEMBER, HAVEN'T BEEN THERE BEFORE.

I DON'T REMEMBER THE WINDOWS OPEN THE EXPLANATION.

UM, ON THE WINDOWS, THE WINDOWS DO OPEN, BUT IF THEY CAN SEE FROM THAT PICTURE, THEY'RE WAY UP HERE.

SO YOU CAN'T EVEN REACH THE WINDOW.

THEY'RE NOT OPEN IN THIS DIRECTION OR COME DOWN AND THEY HAVE SCREENS ON TOP, SO YOU CAN OPEN THEM FOR VENTILATION ONLY DAM IT, AND THEY KIND OF OPEN INWARD AND YOU CAN'T REALLY PUT YOUR HAND UP THERE.

I MEAN, UNLESS OKAY.

YOU'RE UNDER THE GIANT OR SOMETHING.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

I'D BE HAPPY TO SHOW YOU THAT SLIDE AGAIN, IF YOU LIKE AS WELL.

ANY OTHER, UH, QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION? SEEING NONE.

OKAY, THANKS.

HAVING HEARD ALL COMMENTS FROM THE MEMBERS OF THE STAFF AND THE PUBLIC ON THIS ITEM, IS THERE A COMMISSIONER WISHING TO BRING A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? THIS IS ONLY TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

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WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER VALENZUELA TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, BEING THE MAKER OF THE MOTION.

COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ HAS THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON THE MOTION.

COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ, DO YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? NO, I'M GOOD.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THE COMMISSION WILL NOW VOTE ELECTRONICALLY ON THE MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE DECLARE THE RESULTS OF THE VOTE MOTION.

PROVE THE ANONYMOUSLY.

THANK YOU.

I HEREBY CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IS THERE A MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION THAT WOULD LIKE TO BRING A MOTION TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION OF APPROVAL? WHEN WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER VALENZUELA AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 20 20 24 DASH 17, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY CALIFORNIA, DETERMINING THAT THE PROJECT IS CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT FROM THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT.