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          OKAY, WE NOW HAVE 
          [Call To Order]
A QUORUM, UM, ON THE DAAS. 
          SO WE WILL, UH, NOW REOPEN THE MEETING. 
          SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND REPEAT WHAT I STARTED EARLIER. 
          PURSUANT TO AB 24 49, WE HAVE A REQUEST TO ATTEND VIRTUALLY BY A PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBER. 
          WE HAVE RECEIVED A REQUEST FROM VICE CHAIR CASTLE OF THE NEED TO PARTICIPATE REMOTELY. 
          FOLLOWING THE REQUIREMENTS OF AB 24 49. 
          WE MUST HAVE, WE MUST FIRST CONFIRM THAT THERE IS A QUORUM PRESENT IN THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBER, WHICH WE JUST DID. 
          VICE CHAIR CASTLE IS PRESENT VIA ZOOM, VICE CHAIR CASTLE. 
          PLEASE ADDRESS THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO FIRST CONFIRM THAT YOU CAN BE HEARD AND SEEN, AND THAT YOU HEAR AND SEE THE DAIS CHAIR MIL. 
          EXCUSE ME, CHAIR MILLER COMMISSIONERS. 
          UM, I AM, IF YOU CAN SEE ME AND HEAR ME, YES. 
          YES, YES. 
          OKAY, GOOD. 
          UM, THANK YOU. 
          AND DID YOU WANT ME TO EXPLAIN WHY I, I'M, I'M, I'M GETTING TO THAT. 
          I'LL GET RIGHT THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          VICE CHAIR CASTLE. 
          PLEASE PROVIDE A GENERAL DESCRIPTION OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES RELATING TO THE NEED TO APPEAR REMOTELY. 
          TODAY. 
          I WAS, UH, LEAVING LUNCH AND I WAS WALKING THROUGH THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB INTO THE KIMBALL PARKING LOT OR IN KIMBALL PARK PARKING LOT. 
          I STEPPED DOWN OFF A CURB AND I DIDN'T REALIZE THERE WAS A POTHOLE UNDERNEATH ME. 
          AND I, UH, SNAPPED MY ANKLE. 
          I WAS TAKEN VIA AMBULANCE AND I ENDED UP IN THE EMERGENCY ROOM. 
          THANK GOODNESS THERE IS NO BREAK. 
          HOWEVER, UM, THERE MIGHT BE SOME TENDON OR LIGAMENT DAMAGE, AND MY ANKLE IS VERY SWOLLEN AND I WAS JUST RELEASED A LITTLE BIT AGO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, SO VICE CHAIR CASTLE, ARE YOU CLAIMING YOUR ABSENCE IS UNDER JUST CAUSE OR EMERGENCY CIRCUMSTANCES? YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IF YOU WOULD, LIKE, MADAM SECRETARY CAN PROVIDE US WITH THE DESCRIPTION OF EACH TO ASSIST YOU WITH YOUR REQUEST. 
          YES. 
          VICE CHAIR CASTLE, YOU HAVE TO PICK EITHER JUST CAUSE OR EMERGENCY CIRCUMSTANCE, ONE OR THE OTHER. 
          EMERGENCY CIRCUMSTANCE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          VICE CHAIR CASTLE. 
          IS THERE ANYONE OVER THE AGE OF 18 YEARS OF AGE PRESENT AT THE REMOTE LOCATION WITH YOU? NOT CURRENTLY, NO. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE CONFIRM THE NUMBER OF TIMES THIS COMMISSIONER HAS APPEARED REMOTELY WITHIN THE LAST CALENDAR YEAR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONERS. 
          AT THIS TIME, MADAM SECRETARY WILL TAKE THE ROLL CALL. 
          SHE'S GOING TO TAKE A ROLL CALL VOTE, UM, THAT YOU GUYS ARE ALLOWING, UH, VICE CHAIR CASTLE TO PARTICIPATE VIA ZOOM AND, OH, EXCUSE ME. 
          I WAS JUST GONNA REMIND, UM, IT'S GONNA, SINCE WE HAVE VICE CHAIR ON ZOOM, IT'LL BE A HAND VOTE, UM, TONIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          LET'S DO VICE, UH, COMMISSIONER ARM CHAIR MILLER? YES. 
          SORRY. 
          COMMISSIONER MENT. 
          IS THAT A YES. 
          THIS IS FOR TAKING A VOTE IF YOU ACCEPT, UH, VICE CHAIR CASTLE. 
          YES. 
          . 
          SO, YES. 
          YES. 
          NOT BEING OKAY. 
          PERFECT. 
          UM, CHAIR MILLER? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER SANTOS? YES. 
          AND COMMISSIONER FOREMAN. 
          THAT'S A YES. 
          IS THAT IT? THANK YOU. 
          IT WAS MORE THAN ANSWER. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, THEREFORE WE ACCEPT THE VIRTUAL ATTENDANCE DUE TO EMERGENCY CIRCUMSTANCES. 
          UM, MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE DECLARE THE RESULT OF THE VOTE UNANIMOUS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          WITH THAT THEN, UH, I HEREBY CALL THE MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY OF SEPTEMBER 16TH AT 6:24 PM TO ORDER A LIVE WEBCAST OF THE MEETING MAY BE VIEWED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE AT HTTPS SLASH SLASH WWW NATIONAL CITY CA.GOV/WEBCAST. 
          THE NOTICE AGENDA AND INFORMATION ON THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY'S WEBSITE INFORM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT THEY MAY SUBMIT PUBLIC COMMENT ON A SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEM IN A NUMBER OF WAYS. 
          FIRST, BY EMAIL THAT CAN BE SENT TO PLC PB. 
          COMMENT@NATIONALCITYCA.GOV NO LATER THAN FOUR HOURS BEFORE THE MEETING. 
          SECOND VIA ZOOM BY PRE-REGISTERING ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE, NO LATER THAN FOUR HOURS BEFORE THE 
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MEETING AT HTTPS SLASH SLASH WWW.NATIONALCITYCA.GOV/PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          THIRD, THE PUBLIC CAN PROVIDE COMMENTS IN PERSON HERE AT THE MEETING. 
          ALL WRITTEN COMMENTS RECEIVED WILL BE DISTRIBUTED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS APPROPRIATE PRIOR TO THEIR RESPECTIVE MEETINGS AND PUBLISHED ON THE CITY WEBSITE IF RECEIVED BY THE DEADLINE. 
          DO WE NEED TO DO ANOTHER ROLL CALL? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          YES. 
          'CAUSE WE DIDN'T DO A ROLL CALL. 
          WE JUST DID A VOTE. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          I REQUEST THE PLANNING COMMISSION. 
          SECRETARY, NOW PROCEED WITH ROLL CALL VICE CHAIR CASTLE. 
          CASTLE. 
          PRESENT. 
          COMMISSIONER ARM PRESENT. 
          COMMISSIONER FOREMAN PRESENT. 
          COMMISSIONER FOREMAN, CAN WE JUST, UH, MAKE SURE WE TURN ON OUR MIC? THANK YOU. 
          PRESENT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ. 
          PRESENT, CHAIR MILLER PRESENT. 
          UH, PLEASE NOTE THAT WE DO HAVE TWO ABSENCES TONIGHT. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER ES AND COMMISSIONER VALENZUELA ARE NOT PRESENT. 
          SO WE WILL NOW HAVE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, UH, LED BY COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ. 
          READY. 
          I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND PUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. 
          OKAY. 
          ITEM 
          [1. Approval of Excused/Unexcused Absence of Pearl Quinones on September 16, 2024]
ONE IS FOR THE APPROVAL OF EXCUSED OR UNEXCUSED ABSENCE OF COMMISSIONER QUINONE FROM THE SEPTEMBER 16TH MEETING. 
          UM, I DISCLOSED THAT COMMISSIONER QUINONE HAD NOTIFIED MADAM SECRETARY ON AUGUST 7TH, 2024 OF HER ABSENCE FROM THE SEPTEMBER 16TH, 2024 MEETING DUE TO BEING OUT OF TOWN UNTIL OCTOBER 9TH, 2024. 
          IF THERE IS NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO EXCUSE OR NOT EXCUSE. 
          COMMISSIONER QUINONES ACTION. 
          PLEASE STATE WHAT YOU CHOOSE IN THE MOTION, EITHER EXCUSED OR UNEXCUSED. 
          AND JUST TO REAFFIRM, THIS WILL BE BY HAND AND VOICE, UH, EVERYTHING, NO ELECTRONIC, UH, VOTING OR ANYTHING TONIGHT. 
          SO IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION, I NEED TO SEE A HAND OR HEAR. 
          COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO EXCUSE COMMISSIONER, WHAT'S YOUR LAST NAME? DO I HAVE A SECOND? OKAY. 
          A SECOND. 
          UH, ON, ON THE MICROPHONE PLEASE. 
          I'D LIKE TO SECOND THE MOTION. 
          OKAY. 
          WE HAVE A, UM, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ARMINTA TO EXCUSE COMMISSIONER QUINONE FROM THE SEPTEMBER 16TH, 2024 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. 
          THE COMMISSION WILL NOW VOTE, UH, BY HAND ON THE MOTION. 
          VICE CHAIR CASTLE AYE. 
          COMMISSIONER MENTA AYE. 
          COMMISSIONER FOREMAN? AYE. 
          COMMISSIONER SANTOS. 
          AYE. 
          CHAIR MILLER. 
          AYE. 
          I'M SORRY, I SHOULD HAVE SAID BY VOICE RATHER THAN BY HAND. 
          UM, PUBLIC COMMENTS NOW. 
          WE WILL NOW HEAR PUBLIC COMMENTS ON ITEMS OR MATTERS THAT ARE NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA UNDER STATE LAW. 
          WE CANNOT RESPOND TO PUBLIC COMMENTS AND ITEMS REQUIRING PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION. 
          THESE ITEMS MUST BE BROUGHT BACK ON A SUBSEQUENT AGENDA UNLESS THEY ARE OF A DEMONSTRATED EMERGENCY OR URGENT NATURE. 
          MADAM SECRETARY, ARE THERE ANY, UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS NOT RELATED TO TONIGHT'S AGENDA? NO. 
          CHAIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WE WILL NOW BEGIN CONSIDERATION OF THE ITEMS ON TONIGHT'S REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA. 
          ITEM TWO IS 
          [2. Approval of the Agenda for the Meeting on September 16, 2024.]
FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA FOR THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 24TH, 2024. 
          UH, I'M SORRY, SEPTEMBER 16TH, 2024. 
          THAT IS TONIGHT'S MEETING. 
          THERE'S NO DISCUSSION, UH, FOR THE PLAN FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS. 
          DO I HAVE A MOTION? SO MOVED. 
          DO I HAVE A SECOND MOTION TO APPROVE? THANK YOU. 
          KATIE . 
          OKAY. 
          I GET SOMETHING. 
          LET'S JUST SAY, YEAH, I GUESS WE'RE CONFUSED. 
          . 
          OKAY. 
          UH, I HAVE A MOTION BY VICE CHAIR CASTLE AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ TO APPROVE THE AGENDA. 
          UH, THE COMMISSION WILL NOW, UM, VOTE BY VOICE BY ROLL CALL PLEASE. 
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VICE CHAIR CASTLE CASTLE. 
          AYE. 
          COMMISSIONER MENTHA AYE. 
          COMMISSIONER FOREMAN? AYE. 
          COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ. 
          AYE. 
          CHAIR MILLER. 
          AYE. 
          THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SEC. 
          MADAM SECRETARY ITEM THREE 
          [3. Approval of Minutes from the Meeting of August 5, 2023.]
ON TONIGHT'S AGENDAS FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF AUGUST 5TH, 2024. 
          IF THERE IS NO DISCUSSION, DO I HAVE A MOTION? I SO MOVED. 
          MOTION TO APPROVE. 
          OKAY. 
          DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND MOTION. 
          UH, WE HAVE A, A MOTION BY VICE CHAIR CASTLE AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF MAY 20TH, 2024. 
          THE COMMISSION WILL NOW VOTE BY ROLL CALL VICE CHAIR CASTLE CASTLE. 
          AYE. 
          COMMISSIONER MENTA AYE. 
          COMMISSIONER FOREMAN? AYE. 
          COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ? AYE. 
          CHAIR MILLER AYE. 
          MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 
          I APOLOGIZE. 
          CHAIR MILLER, I THINK THERE WAS A TYPO IN YOUR SCRIPT. 
          IT WAS IT THE MINUTES OF AUGUST 5TH, 2024 AND NOT MAY 20TH, 2024. 
          OH, I SEE THAT. 
          I SEE. 
          I DIDN'T CATCH THAT, BUT IT'S OKAY. 
          JUST TO REFLECT ON THE RECORD. 
          THANK. 
          OKAY. 
          YES. 
          FOR THE RECORD, IT IS AUGUST 5TH, 2024. 
          NOT MAY 20TH. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT CORRECTION, COUNSEL. 
          AND WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO PUBLIC HEARINGS. 
          UM, THIS 
          [4. Determination that the project is categorically exempt from the California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA) under Class 1 of the CEQA guidelines Section 15301 (Existing Facilities) and Conditional Use Permit for the sale of beer, wine, and distilled spirits (ABC TYPE-21) at an existing grocery store (Manolo Farmers Market) located at 303 Highland Avenue. Case File No.: 2024-11 CUP APN: 556-180-23-00]
IS THE TIME AND THE PLACE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARINGS TO CONSIDER ITEM NUMBER FOUR, UH, THE PUBLIC HEARING TO, UH, DETERMINE THAT THE PROJECT IS CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT FROM THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT, CQA UNDER CLASS ONE OF THE CE GUIDELINES, SECTION 1 53 0 1 FOR EXISTING FACILITIES AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR THE SALE OF BEER, WINE AND DISTILLED SPIRIT SPIRITS, A, B, C TYPE 21 AT AN EXISTING GROCERY STORE, MANOLO FARMS MARKET, LOCATED AT 3 0 3 HIGHLAND AVENUE. 
          HOWEVER, WE DO NOT, UH, I UNDERSTAND THAT, UH, THERE ARE SOME RECUSALS FOR THIS ITEM FOR TONIGHT. 
          AND, UM, I NEED TO KNOW WHO WILL BE RECUSING THEMSELVES. 
          I WILL. 
          OKAY. 
          I'LL BE RECUSING MYSELF AS WELL. 
          CHAIR MILLER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, BECAUSE WE HAVE TWO RECUSALS, UH, THAT MEANS ONLY THREE MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, WILL BE HERE. 
          AND THAT DOES NOT CONSTITUTE A QUORUM. 
          SO WE WILL NOT BE CONSIDERING THIS ITEM TONIGHT. 
          UM, WE WILL WORK WITH STAFF TO RESCHEDULE THIS PARTICULAR ITEM FOR A FUTURE DATE. 
          SO WITH 
          [5. Determination that the project is categorically exempt from the California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA) under Class 32 of the CEQA guidelines Section 15332 (In-Fill Development Projects) and Conditional Use Permit for a proposed educational institution (Integrity Charter School) located at 229-241 National City Boulevard. Case File No.: 2023-14 CUP APNS: 556-101-02, 556-101-15, 556-101-16]
THAT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO, UH, ITEM NUMBER FIVE, ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING, UH, TO DETERMINE THAT THE PROJECT IS CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT FROM THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT UNDER CLASS 32 OF THE SQA GUIDELINES, SECTION 1 53 32 INFILL DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS AND A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A PROPOSED EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTION. 
          INTEGRITY CHARTER SCHOOL LOCATED AT 20, EXCUSE ME, 2 29 DASH 2 24 NATIONAL CITY BOULEVARD. 
          I HEREBY CALL THE PUBLIC MEETING TO ORDER. 
          BEFORE WE BEGIN, DO ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY DISCLOSURES RELATING TO THIS HEARING? THIS IS EACH PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S OPPORTUNITY TO DISCLOSE ANY CONFLICTS OF INTEREST, PROPERTY INSPECTIONS, EX PARTE CONTACTS, OR COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSIONERS. 
          COMMISSIONER ARMINTA? UH, I'M GOING TO RECUSE MYSELF BECAUSE I LIVE WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET OF THIS, UH, AREA, THIS LOCATION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY COMMISSIONER? UH, CHAIR BILLING, VICE CHAIR CASTLE? YES. 
          I, UM, I DID A SITE DRIVE BY. 
          I DRIVE BY THERE ALL THE TIME. 
          UM, AND I KNOW EXACTLY, UH, THE PROPOSED SITE THAT'S BEING REQUESTED. 
          THANK YOU. 
          VICE CHAIR. 
          UM, ALSO I DID A DRIVE BY, UM, VIEWING OF THE SITE TO SEE THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND GET A FEEL OF THE FACILITY ITSELF AND THE, THE PARCEL. 
          OKAY. 
          MADAM SECRETARY, HAVE THE NOTICES AS REQUIRED BY LAW BEEN GIVEN, AND DO WE HAVE A COMPLETE FILE OF EXHIBITS, CORRESPONDENCE, AND OTHER DOCUMENTS? YES, CHAIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WELL, STAFF, PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND SUMMARIZE THE ITEM FOR US. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, UH, STAFF AND THE PUBLIC, UH, MARTIN READER, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT HERE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION THIS EVENING. 
          I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A 
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QUICK CORRECTION IN THE PREAMBLE TO THIS ITEM. 
          THE ADDRESS WAS STATED AS 2 29 THROUGH 2 24, BUT IT'S 2 29 THROUGH 2 41 AS REFLECTED IN THE STAFF REPORT AND THE ATTACHED RESOLUTION. 
          UH, DID I MISSPEAK ON THAT? UH, YEAH, BUT THAT'S OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          SORRY ABOUT THAT. 
          I JUST NEED THE, UH, YES, PLEASE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO WE'RE JUST GONNA GET THE PRESENTATION UP. 
          UM, SO THIS IS, UH, THE, ACTUALLY, I'LL WAIT FOR THE PRESENTATION. 
          SORRY. 
          I WAS GONNA YEAH, YEAH, YOU'RE GOOD. 
          I WAS GONNA TRY AND WING IT, BUT THAT'S NOT GONNA WORK TODAY. 
          THANK YOU, DAMON. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THIS IS A PROPOSAL BY THE INTEGRITY CHARTER SCHOOL, UH, CURRENTLY LOCATED WITHIN OUR CITY TOWN OF EIGHTH STREET NATIONAL CITY BOULEVARD. 
          UH, THIS PROPOSAL IS FOR THE SITE LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF NATIONAL CITY BOULEVARD AND EAST THIRD STREET, UH, BETWEEN NATIONAL CITY BOULEVARD AND AAF AVENUE, ROUGHLY. 
          UH, IT'S ABOUT A 38,000 SQUARE FOOT PROPERTY. 
          IT'S CURRENTLY THREE DIFFERENT LOTS, ALTHOUGH IT IS DEVELOPED WITH ONE, UH, WITH ONE BIG BUILDING, AS YOU CAN SEE, UH, PARTITIONED IN A DIFFERENT SUITE. 
          THIS AREA IS WITHIN OUR DOWNTOWN SPECIFIC PLAN, WHICH IS ROUGHLY THE AREA FROM DIVISION STREET DOWN TO, UH, TO 18TH, OR ACTUALLY 16TH STREET RATHER. 
          UH, SO THIS WILL BE IN DEVELOPMENT ZONE TWO, WHICH HAPPENS TO BE THE, UH, EAST SIDE OF NATIONAL CITY BOULEVARD. 
          THE PROPERTY DOES SLOPE FROM THE EAST, UH, ON A AVENUE DOWN TO THE WEST ABOUT 14 FEET, WHICH IS FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT. 
          WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT IN A LITTLE WHILE. 
          AND, UH, THE BUILDING THAT'S THERE NOW IS CURRENTLY VACANT, BUT IS MOST RECENTLY BEEN OCCUPIED BY BOTH THE FURNITURE STORE, A THRIFT STORE, AS WELL AS COMMERCIAL STORAGE ON THIRD AVENUE, ON THE THIRD AVENUE SIDE. 
          AND THERE'S ALSO SOME STORAGE IN THE LOT IN THE BACK. 
          THERE IS ALSO A POLE SIGN THAT'S LOCATED APPROXIMATELY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SITE. 
          UH, IT'S FAIRLY NOTICEABLE FROM ALL AREAS AROUND, AND IT DOES NOT HAVE ANY SIGNAGE OR LEXAN PLASTIC INSIDE OF IT. 
          BUT THE POLE ITSELF DOES HAVE A WIRELESS COMMUNICATIONS FACILITY LOCATED ON IT, WHICH WAS APPROVED THROUGH A CUP SOME YEARS AGO. 
          AND THAT WILL ALSO COME INTO PLAY. 
          I'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT. 
          SO THE, THE PROJECT PROPONENT, WHICH IS THE INTEGRITY CHARTER SCHOOL, WHICH AS I MENTIONED, IS LOCATED FURTHER SOUTH ON NATIONAL CITY BOULEVARD, UH, CURRENTLY HAS, UH, GRADES K THROUGH EIGHT, K THROUGH TWO ARE ACTUALLY ACCOMMODATED OFFSITE AT THE YMCA AT D AVENUE AND 15TH STREET. 
          THERE ARE 120 STUDENTS CURRENTLY IN THAT LOCATION. 
          AND THEN GRADES THREE THROUGH EIGHT ARE ON THE NATIONAL CITY BOULEVARD LOCATION, WHERE THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 250 STUDENTS. 
          SO THIS PROJECT WOULD REPLACE BOTH OF THOSE, UH, FACILITIES, ALTHOUGH THE INTEGRITY CHARTER SCHOOL WILL CONTINUE TO OWN THE BUILDING AT EIGHTH STREET IN NATIONAL CITY BOULEVARD AND WOULD STILL HAVE ACCESS TO THAT PARKING AREA. 
          EXCUSE ME. 
          SO THE SCHOOL IS LOOKING TO EXPAND BEYOND THEIR CURRENT ACADEMIC PROGRAM, WHICH WOULD, UH, NECESSITATE A LARGER SPACE. 
          SO THIS WOULD BE, UH, THE SAME CHARTER, BUT A NEW SCHOOL BUILDING. 
          THE CAMPUS WOULD HAVE, UH, UP TO 21 CLASSROOMS, INCLUDING A MULTIPURPOSE BUILDING, ADMINISTRATIVE AREAS AND SUPPORTING SERVICES, AND WOULD CATER TO UP TO 440 STUDENTS WITH 60 TO 65, BOTH FULL-TIME AND PART-TIME STAFF AT THIS LOCATION, THE EXISTING BUILDING AT 2 29 NATIONAL CITY BOULEVARD, WHICH I'LL GO BACK AND SHOW YOU, WHICH IS WHERE, ROUGHLY WHERE IT SAYS CALIFORNIA WRECKING AND SHELVING. 
          SO THAT DARKER AREA ON THE TOP, THE CUTOUT, THAT BUILDING IS GOING TO REMAIN, BUT WILL BE REMODELED TO BE, UH, THE MULTI-PURPOSE BUILDING. 
          AND THE REMAINDER OF THE PROPERTY WILL BE DEMOLISHED AND REDEVELOPED WITH THE NEW CLASSROOMS AND NEW CAMPUS. 
          THE SCHOOL HOURS WILL BE A TYPICAL SCHOOL SCHEDULE OF MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY FROM EIGHT IN THE MORNING TO THREE IN THE AFTERNOON. 
          UH, AND THAT WOULD BE, UH, THROUGH JUNE. 
          YEAH, EXCUSE ME. 
          UH, SO THAT WOULD BE STARTING IN JULY, LATE JULY, ENDING UP IN JUNE. 
          SO YEAR ROUND SCHOOL. 
          THERE ARE ALSO OCCASIONAL EVENTS, SCHOOL EVENTS THAT WERE MENTIONED IN THE APPLICATION AND WE'RE ALSO, UH, ANALYZED AS PART OF THE, THE TRAFFIC STUDY PARKING STUDY FOR THIS PRO PROJECT. 
          AND THAT INCLUDES, UH, FRIDAY FAMILY NIGHTS, WHICH ARE ABOUT EIGHT TIMES A YEAR. 
          AND WHAT THEY'RE CALLING BACK TO SCHOOL NIGHTS, WHICH ARE TWO NIGHTS, UH, ABOUT TWO TIMES A YEAR. 
          ALL OF THE PARKING ON SITE OR ALL OF THE PARKING FOR THE FACILITY RATHER, WILL 
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BE OFFSITE. 
          UH, THIS IS A FAIRLY CHALLENGING SITE, SO, UH, CREATING AN AREA FOR PARKING, SUCH AS A PARKING STRUCTURE WOULD BE, UH, PRETTY MUCH COST PROHIBITIVE. 
          UH, IN THIS LOCATION, THERE IS THE EXISTING SCHOOL, AS I MENTIONED, WHICH DOES HAVE AN AREA FOR STAFF TO PARK, WHICH THEY WOULD CONTINUE TO BE HAVING ACCESS TO WHILE THE THEY OWN THE BUILDING. 
          THERE'S NO GUARANTEE HOW LONG THAT WILL BE, BUT THAT IS, UH, PROPOSED, UH, TO BE PROVIDED. 
          AND THE APPLICANT IS ALSO REQUESTING SOME RESTRICTED PARKING AREAS AROUND THE SITE, PARTICULARLY ON NATIONAL CITY BOULEVARD, EAST THIRD STREET, AND A AVENUE. 
          MOST OF THESE WOULD BE TO DO WITH THE PICKUP AND DROP OFF AREAS, WHICH I'LL TALK ABOUT. 
          UH, BUT THAT ALSO INCLUDES, UH, TIMED PARKING. 
          SO THOSE TIME PARKING AREAS, COLOR CURBS, GREEN, YELLOW, WHITE, ET CETERA, WOULD BE ADDRESSED THROUGH THE CONDITIONS. 
          THOSE WOULD NEED TO GO TO THE TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMITTEE, UH, IF APPROVED. 
          AND THEN THE WIRELESS FACILITY THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER, BEING LOCATED IN THE SIGN THAT IS ULTIMATELY GOING TO BE RELOCATED INTO THE NEW BUILDINGS. 
          THE ANTENNAS WILL BE IN ONE PART ALONG THIRD AVENUE. 
          AND THE, UH, THE EQUIPMENT WILL BE LOCATED ON THE ROOF OF THE MULTI-USE BUILDING. 
          HOWEVER, WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT THAT TONIGHT. 
          THAT IS A FUTURE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT THAT WILL BE PROPOSED BY T-MOBILE, WHO'S THE CARRIER. 
          HOWEVER, THE ARCHITECT HAS, UH, INCLUDED IN THE DESIGN AREAS TO ACCOMMODATE THAT, UM, THAT EQUIPMENT. 
          AND THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH T-MOBILE. 
          THEY'RE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH STAFF HAS ALREADY TALKED WITH T-MOBILE TO, TO WORK ON THAT. 
          SO EVERYONE'S ON THE SAME PAGE. 
          THIS IS A SITE PLAN SHOWING, YOU KNOW, THE ROUGH AREA. 
          YOU CAN SEE THE GREEN ON THERE. 
          THERE'S A LOWER AND AN UPPER PLAY AREA, WHICH I'LL MENTIONED. 
          SO IT, IT'S REALLY, UH, SORT OF A HORSESHOE TYPE CONFIGURATION WITH A COURTYARD IN THE MIDDLE. 
          THERE'S AN L-SHAPED BUILDING ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, WHICH I'LL SHOW YOU A LITTLE, UH, FURTHER ON. 
          THAT'S, UH, ALONG THIRD AVENUE AND A AVENUE, OR THIRD STREET AND A AVENUE, EXCUSE ME. 
          UH, AND A MORE RECTANGULAR VERSION ALONG NATIONAL CITY BOULEVARD. 
          THE MULTIPURPOSE BUILDING ON THE TOP THERE. 
          THAT'S THE 2 29 FORM OF FURNITURE STORE THAT WOULD REMAIN IN PLACE, BUT BE REMODELED. 
          AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS EXTENSIVE LANDSCAPING AROUND THE PROPERTY AND THROUGHOUT. 
          AND THERE'S ALSO AN AMPHITHEATER RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE BETWEEN THE TWO PLAY AREAS. 
          SO THERE IS ABOUT 10 FEET, A GREAT DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN THE LOWER AND THE UPPER PLAY AREAS. 
          UH, THESE ARE THE FLOOR PLANS. 
          UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE LETTERS, OR EXCUSE ME, THE NUMBERS IN BOLD, YOU CAN SEE ONE AND TWO ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, UH, IN THIS LOCATION. 
          SO THIS WOULD BE THE, THE LOWEST, UH, THE LOWEST FLOOR AS FAR AS WHERE CLASSROOMS WILL BE. 
          SO THERE'LL BE TWO THERE. 
          THERE'LL ALSO BE A SEMINAR AND CONFERENCE ROOM ALONG THE BOTTOM, MULTIPURPOSE ALONG THE TOP. 
          MOVING UP TO THE NEXT FLOOR, YOU CAN SEE THERE'S TWO MORE CLASSROOMS IN THE NATIONAL CITY BOULEVARD BUILDING, AND THEN FIVE ALONG THIRD AND ANOTHER ONE ON A, THAT'S THE L SHAPED BUILDING I WAS TALKING ABOUT. 
          AND THEN FINALLY, THERE IS A, UH, WHAT WILL ACTUALLY APPEAR MOSTLY IS A SECOND STORY BECAUSE OF THE GRADE. 
          SO UP HERE IT WILL STILL BE CONSIDERED A SECOND STORY, BUT ALONG THIS AREA IN THE MIDDLE OF EAST THIRD STREET, IT WILL APPEAR AS, AS THREE STORIES. 
          BUT I'LL SHOW YOU SOME RENDERINGS OF THAT MOMENTARILY. 
          SO THERE'S THE REMAINDER OF THE BUILDINGS, UH, EXCUSE ME, CLASSROOM SEWING UP TO 19 HERE, ALTHOUGH THERE WILL BE ROOM FOR UP TO 21, DEPENDING ON THE ULTIMATE CONFIGURATION OF SPACE. 
          SO WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN SPECIFIC PLAN, AN EDUCATIONAL FACILITY SUCH AS A SCHOOL AS PROPOSED, IS PERMITTED WITH A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IN ALL ZONES OF THE DOWNTOWN SPECIFIC PLAN. 
          TYPICALLY, WHEN WE LOOK AT A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, THE CONDITIONS WE'RE LOOKING FOR, THE, THE, UM, THE AREAS WE WISH TO ANALYZE USUALLY WILL INCLUDE TRAFFIC ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY AND ALSO POTENTIAL NOISE, ESPECIALLY WITH OUTDOOR PLAY AREAS. 
          OF COURSE, WE DO HAVE OTHER EDUCATIONAL FACILITIES WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN SPECIFIC PLAN, INCLUDING THE CURRENT INTEGRITY CHARTER SCHOOL CAMPUS. 
          BUT THERE'S ALSO, OF COURSE, THE SOUTH COUNTY REGIONAL EDUCATION CENTER, WHICH IS MOSTLY ADMINISTRATIVE IN NATURE. 
          UH, I DID MENTION THE TWO NEW BUILDINGS AND THE MULTIPURPOSE BUILDING BEING REPURPOSED FROM THE OLD 2 29 NATIONAL CITY BOULEVARD. 
          AGAIN, TWO TO THREE STORIES AS I'VE PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED. 
          SO THERE IS GOING TO BE AN ELEVATED BREEZEWAY THAT WILL APPEAR AS A BRIDGE BETWEEN, UH, THE BUILDING ALONG NATIONAL CITY BOULEVARD AND A BUILDING ALONG THIRD STREET BETWEEN THE, THE TWO NEW BUILDINGS, A RECTANGLE AND THE L-SHAPED ONES. 
          AND THOSE TWO COURTYARDS, UH, ARE APPROXIMATELY 2,500 SQUARE FEET AND ALMOST 4,000 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE. 
          THE LOWER ONE IS THE LARGER, THAT WOULD BE THE ONE IN THE MIDDLE NEXT TO THE, UH, AMPHITHEATER. 
          AND THE UPPER ONE WILL BE BEHIND THE BUILDING ALONG, UH, A AVENUE. 
          SO THE, THE, THE, UH, DESIGN AESTHETIC OFFERS OF VIBRANT PALETTE OF COLORS AND SHAPES OF FEATURES, INCLUDING DIFFERENT SHAPED WINDOWS. 
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UM, EACH SECTION OF BUILDING HAS A DIFFERENT COLOR, HAVING A DIFFERENT CHARACTER. 
          AND, UH, HERE'S A RENDERING THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT. 
          THIS IS THE FINAL RENDERING, UM, THE BLACK AND WHITE CHECKED AREA THAT'S LOOKS LIKE IT'S THREE STORIES. 
          THAT IS ACTUALLY THE AREA THAT IS PROPOSED TO HOLD THE ANTENNAS. 
          SO THEY WOULD BE BEHIND A PARAPET ON TOP OF THAT BUILDING. 
          UH, SO THEY WOULD BE INVISIBLE, BUT, UH, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW WHERE THEY'LL ULTIMATELY GO AS PER PLAN. 
          SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S, UH, DIFFERENT SHAPES OF WINDOWS, ROUND TRIANGULAR, ET CETERA. 
          UH, LOTS OF LANDSCAPING THROUGHOUT THE PROPERTY. 
          AND THE ORANGE AND DARK BROWN BLACK BUILDING ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, THAT IS THE REMODEL 2 29 NATIONAL CITY BOULEVARD BUILDING. 
          SO AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S QUITE STRIKING. 
          UH, THERE ARE NO PARTICULAR DESIGN REQUIREMENTS FOR THE DOWNTOWN SPECIFIC PLAN, BUT THIS WOULD CERTAINLY MAKE A STATEMENT AND, UH, BE A VALUABLE GATEWAY, UH, SORT OF WAY FINDING PLACE IN THE NORTH PART OF TOWN WHEN PEOPLE ARE COMING IN. 
          SO THE MAJORITY OF THE WORK THAT, UH, STAFF WAS INVOLVED WITH WAS A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS THAT WAS PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT, UH, UNDER THE SUPERVISION AND DIRECTION OF OUR CITY ENGINEER, WHO BY THE WAY, IS ALSO HERE THIS EVENING. 
          AND IT, UH, ANALYZED SEVERAL DIFFERENT AREAS, INCLUDING CIRCULATION AND PARKING, TRAFFIC IN GENERAL, UH, PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS. 
          AND, UM, YEAH, ALREADY TALKED ABOUT PARKING. 
          BUT, UH, OVERALL, ONE OF THE MAIN ISSUES THAT THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS LOOKS AT ARE VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED, OR VMT. 
          THAT IS, THAT TENDS TO BE THE MOST IMPORTANT THING WITH ANY USE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO CREATE, UH, UH, AN ISSUE WITH, UH, CQA. 
          SO SQUA LOOKS AT VMT. 
          UH, SO WE ALSO LOOKED AT PARKING, PICKUP AND DROP OFF AREAS FOR STUDENTS, ANY PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS SUCH AS BULB OUTS OR, UH, OR, UM, CHANGING IN THE DIRECTION OF CERTAIN STREETS, WHICH I'LL TALK ABOUT. 
          BUT BASICALLY, THE ANALYSIS CONCLUDED THAT NO PROJECT IMPACTS WOULD OCCUR AS THE PROJECT WAS DESIGNED. 
          THE PRIMARY REASON BEING THAT UNDER CWA, IF A PROPOSED USE IS A LOCAL SERVING PUBLIC FACILITY, WHICH A SCHOOL WOULD BE CONSIDERED, THAT IS WITHIN HALF A MILE OF A MAJOR TRANSIT STOP, WHICH IS, UH, THE INTERSECTION OF TWO BUS STOPS WITH AT LEAST 15 MINUTE FREQUENCY, WHICH IS WITHIN OR TWO WITHIN THIS LOCATION OR WITHIN A HALF A MILE OF THIS LOCATION, THEN THE PROJECT WOULD BE PRESUMED TO HAVE A LESSER SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON VMT AND WOULD NOT BE, IT WOULD BASICALLY BE SCREENED OUT, UH, OF CQA. 
          UH, AS FAR AS TRAFFIC IS CONCERNED, WE DID WELL. 
          THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS DID LOOK AT THE EFFECT ON, UH, INTERSECTIONS AROUND THE AREA. 
          THERE WAS ONE, WHICH WAS THE MAIN FOUR-WAY OVER ALLWAY STOP AT OSBORNE STREET AND DIVISION STREET, THE NORTH END OF TOWN. 
          THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED, UH, TO HAVE, UH, A SUBSTANTIAL EFFECT. 
          IT WOULD REDUCE THE LEVEL OF SERVICE TO A, WHAT WOULD OTHERWISE BE A FAILING GRADE. 
          UH, HOWEVER, THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS DID SAY THAT WITH THE REPLACEMENT OF THAT, ALWAYS START WITH THE TRAFFIC AND WITH A TRAFFIC LIGHT, THAT IT WOULD RETURN TO NORMAL OPERATIONS AND BE AT AN ACCEPTABLE LEVEL OF SERVICE. 
          NOW, BECAUSE THEY ALWAYS STOP, BECAUSE THREE OF THOSE STREETS COMING INTO THAT INTERSECTION ARE CITY OF SAN DIEGO STREETS. 
          THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO WOULD BE, UH, THE ONE THAT WOULD BE IN CHARGE OF THAT PROJECT. 
          SO THIS, UH, A LIGHT IN THIS LOCATION IS FULLY FUNDED IN CITY OF SAN DIEGO, CIP OR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, AND ACTUALLY HAS A, A, A DATE OF 2026 WHEN IT WOULD BE COMPLETED. 
          SO, WITH THE ADDITION OF THAT, WHICH SHOULD COINCIDE ROUGHLY WITH THE OPENING OF THE SCHOOL, WE'RE NOT ANTICIPATING ANY IMPACTS BECAUSE OF THAT. 
          ALL, UH, TRAFFIC AT THAT ALWAYS STOP STUDENT PICK UP A DROPOFF IS SOMETHING THAT STAFF BROUGHT UP WITH THE APPLICANT, UM, WITH BOTH OF THE PREVIOUS INTEGRITY CHARTER SCHOOL CAMPUSES. 
          AND, UH, THEY DID PROVIDE PLENTY OF INFORMATION AND DIRECTION ON HOW THAT WOULD HAPPEN. 
          SO THERE WOULD BE TWO PICK UP AND DROP OFF AREAS, ONE ALONG A AVENUE BEHIND THE SCHOOL TO THE EAST, WHICH WOULD BE ABOUT NINE FEET WIDE AND A HUNDRED FEET LONG. 
          AND THAT WOULD BE ANTICIPATED TO ACCOMMODATE APPROXIMATELY FOUR VEHICLES AT A TIME. 
          AND THEN ALONG EAST THIRD STREET SOUTH OF THE PROPERTY. 
          AND I'LL SHOW YOU THIS IN A MOMENT WHERE IT WOULD BE ABOUT 12 FEET WIDE AND 200 FEET LONG ANTICIPATED TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE, UH, EIGHT VEHICLES. 
          UH, SO THESE, THE, THE YELLOW HIGHLIGHTED AREAS, WHAT I JUST MENTIONED, THIRD STREET ON THE RIGHT, UH, EXCUSE ME, THIRD STREET ON THE BOTTOM, A AVENUE ON THE RIGHT. 
          SO THE CIRCULATION FOR THIS WOULD BE COMING IN FROM THE NORTH ALONG SECOND EAST, SECOND STREET, TURNING RIGHT OR SOUTH ON A AVENUE, HITTING THAT FIRST, UH, SHORTER, SMALLER YELLOW SQUARE OR YELLOW RECTANGLE. 
          AND THEN CONTINUING ROUND WESTBOUND ON THIRD EAST THIRD STREET, WHICH WOULD BE 
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CONVERTED TO A ONE WAY STREET WESTBOUND. 
          SO FROM A AVENUE. 
          SO THE RIGHT SIDE OF THAT PICTURE TO NATIONAL CITY BOULEVARD WOULD BE ONE WAY, AND THERE WOULD BE THE PARKING, WHICH I'LL GET INTO IN A LITTLE BIT, WOULD BE CONVERTED FROM PARALLEL PARKING TO ANGLED PARKING IN ORDER TO OFFSET ANY LOSSES IN, IN PARKING IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA. 
          ANYWAY, SO ABOUT 12 VEHICLES COULD BE ACCOMMODATED, UH, IN THOSE DROP OFF AREAS. 
          AND THE DROP OFF AREAS ARE GONNA BE SEVEN IN THE MORNING TO NINE IN THE MORNING. 
          AND THEN, UH, PICK UP IN THE AFTERNOON WILL BE BETWEEN TWO AND FOUR. 
          UH, IT IS ANTICIPATED THAT OUTSIDE OF THOSE PICKUP AND DROPOFF TIMES, UH, THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO BE USED FOR PARKING. 
          SO THERE IS SIGNAGE PROPOSED AND CONDITIONED THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR THAT AND PREVENT PARKING DURING PICKUP AND DROPOFF TIMES. 
          THE APPLICANT, AS I ALSO MENTIONED, IS ASKING FOR RESTRICTED PARKING ON NATIONAL CITY BOULEVARD IN FRONT OF THE, UH, THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING TO TWO HOUR PARKING, AND THEN ONE HOUR PARKING ON EAST THIRD STREET. 
          UH, THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION, BUT THAT WOULD BE, UM, RECOMMENDED BY THE TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMISSION COMMITTEE, EXCUSE ME. 
          AND, UH, THAT WOULD ULTIMATELY GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL. 
          SO WE WOULD BE AT, TO HASH OUT DETAILS SUCH AS DURING WHAT HOURS WOULD THOSE CURBS BE RESTRICTED. 
          SO GOING INTO PARKING, THAT'S ALSO OBVIOUSLY A BIG POINT OF DISCUSSION FOR MOST PROJECTS OVERALL, UM, AS YOU MAY OR MAY NOT BE AWARE, ASSEMBLY BILL 2 0 9 7, WHICH WAS APPROVED, UH, LAST YEAR, DOES NOT REQUIRE PARKING FOR ANY NEW USE. 
          THAT'S IN AN AREA THAT IS CONSIDERED, UH, CLOSE TO HIGH QUALITY TRANSIT. 
          AND THAT HIGH QUALITY TRANSIT IS WITHIN HALF A MILE OF A INTERSECTING BUS STOP IN THIS CASE, THAT IS AT LEAST 15 MINUTE FREQUENCY, WHICH AGAIN, THE PROJECT DOES FALL INTO, 'CAUSE THERE'S ONE ON THAT BLOCK ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET IN THIS LOCATION. 
          BUT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE DOWNTOWN SPECIFIC PLAN PARKING REQUIREMENTS, IT DOES REQUIRE TWO AND A HALF SPACES FOR EVERY THOUSAND SUITE OF SQUARE FEET. 
          I ALWAYS SAY SUITE, I THINK I SHOULD TRADEMARK THAT, THAT NAME. 
          SO WITHIN A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OF FLOOR AREA. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE 79 PARKING SPACES IF YOU LOOKED AT THAT. 
          BUT OBVIOUSLY THAT DOESN'T REALLY PENCIL OUT IN THAT MOST OF THE RESIDENTS OF THE CAMPUS WILL BE NOT OF DRIVING AGE. 
          UH, ALTHOUGH WE ARE TALKING ABOUT 60 TO 65 STAFF, ALTHOUGH NOT ALL AT ONCE. 
          THERE ARE 27 PARKING SPACES THAT WERE CONDITIONED TO BE PART OF THE ORIGINAL APPROVAL, SO THAT, AGAIN, THOSE WOULD BE STILL AVAILABLE AT THE FORMER, UH, INTEGRITY CHARTER SCHOOL LOCATION. 
          UH, NOT TO MENTION DURING THE DAY MOST OF THE SURFACE PARKING AREA OR A LOT OF THE SURFACE PARKING AREA MAY BE VACANT DUE TO FOLKS GOING TO WORK. 
          SO THERE MAY BE ADDITIONAL PARKING AVAILABLE DURING SCHOOL HOURS. 
          THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS DID DO A SIGNIFICANT, UH, PARKING SUPPLY, PARKING DEMAND SUPPLY, UH, STUDY WHERE TO SEE HOW MANY SPACES WERE AVAILABLE ON STREET UNDER THE CURRENT SITUATION, PARTICULARLY IN THE AREA FROM NASHVILLE CITY BOULEVARD TO D AVENUE BETWEEN SECOND AND THIRD STREETS. 
          UH, THERE WERE 250 PARKING SPACES WITHIN THAT FOUR BLOCK AREA, 60 OF WHICH WOULD ACTUALLY WITHIN, UH, 800 FEET OF THE, WHERE THE PROPOSED SCHOOL LOCATION IS. 
          AND THERE WERE MULTIPLE, UH, A DA SPACES INCLUDED THERE AS WELL. 
          UH, BLUE CURBS, FOR EXAMPLE. 
          SO AS A RESULT OF THE, THE, UH, TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS AND THE RECOMMENDED PARKING CONVERSIONS, SO CONVERTING THE PARALLEL PARKING IN THE AREA TO ANGLE PARKING, THERE WOULD ACTUALLY BE A GAIN OF 30 PARKING SPACES, WHICH IS, UH, INCLUDED AS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO BE IN PLACE PRIOR TO THE SCHOOL OPENING, AND THEN AN ADDITIONAL 12 SPACES, UH, IN THE PICKUP AND DROP OFF AREA AFTER OR BETWEEN PICKUP AND DROP OFF TIMES OR ON WEEKENDS, OUTSIDE OF SCHOOL HOURS. 
          IN OTHER WORDS, WITH RELATION TO PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS, UH, IN ORDER TO MAKE THE AREA SAFER FOR PEDESTRIANS AND CHILDREN COMING TO AND FROM SCHOOL. 
          IN PARTICULAR, THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS DID RECOMMEND SOME IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDING SIDEWALK BOUTS, UH, STOP SIGNS, HIGH VISIBILITY CROSSWALKS, AND, UH, AS I FORMERLY MENTIONED, THE EAST THIRD STREET CONVERSION TO A ONE-WAY STREET, WESTBOUND FROM A AVENUE TO NASHVILLE CITY BOULEVARD. 
          SO THERE ARE BELTS AT THIRD STREET AND NATIONAL CITY BOULEVARD, AND ALSO AT A AVENUE THERE WOULD BE ADDITIONAL STOP SIGNS AT, UH, ON EAST SECOND STREET AND THIRD STREET AT A AVENUE, AND THE HIGH VISIBILITY CROSS WARS ON THOSE LOCATIONS THERE. 
          SO NATIONAL CITY BOULEVARD AND SECOND NATIONAL CITY BOULEVARD, AND THIRD, AND THEN A AND THIRD. 
          SO THIS IS, UH, I THINK THIS IS THE SAME PICTURE YOU SAW BEFORE WITHOUT THE PICKUP AND DROP OFF AREAS, BUT YOU CAN SEE THE DARK, UH, THE DARK AREAS. 
          THOSE ARE THE, THE, THE BALL BOUTS. 
          SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THAT SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCES 
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THE, THE LENGTH OF THAT CROSSWALK, WHICH IS, UH, WHICH WILL IMPROVE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY ALSO ON THE CORNER OF, UH, A AND THIRD THERE, AND ALSO A SMALLER ONE UP TOWARDS THE TOP OF THE PROPERTY. 
          AND NOT ONLY DOES THAT PROVIDE AN AN AREA OR A REFUGE FOR CARS PARKING AND DROPPING, IT ALSO NARROWS THE STREET, WHICH AS YOU KNOW, WILL, UH, RESULT IN MORE OF A, A ROAD DIET OR SLOWING DOWN TRAFFIC ANYWAY. 
          UH, SO THE, THE TRAFFIC LIGHTS WILL BE AT SECOND, WHICH IS FURTHER UP HERE. 
          AND THIRD, AND AGAIN, THE, THIS IS THE AREA OF THIRD STREET, WHICH WILL BE CONVERTED TO ONE WAY. 
          UH, LOOKING AT THE GENERAL PLAN WE DO, THIS PROJECT WOULD BE CONSIDERED TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL PLAN, AND THAT THIS TYPE OF USE IS CONDITIONALLY ALLOWED WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN SPECIFIC PLAN, UH, DEVELOPMENT ZONE TO, AND OTHERWISE, THERE IS A LAND USE POLICY THAT ENCOURAGES DEVELOPMENT AND EXPANSION OF SCHOOL FACILITIES, UH, TO MEET FUTURE NEEDS. 
          WHILE, UH, THIS IS A REPLACEMENT OF A PREVIOUS SCHOOL, IT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO EXPAND AND PROVIDE MORE, UH, ROOM FOR STUDENTS OR MORE STUDENT POPULATION, WHICH WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THAT POLICY. 
          WE DID LOOK AT THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT. 
          THIS WOULD BE CONSIDERED AN INFIELD DEVELOPMENT PROJECT, BEING THAT IT IS AN EXISTING BUILDING THAT WOULD BE DEMOLISHED TO REPLACE WITH A NEW ONE IN A PREVIOUSLY DISTURBED AREA. 
          THERE'S NO HABITAT, UH, IN THE AREA EITHER. 
          AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PROCESS, WHICH STARTED LAST YEAR, WE DID, UH, WE DID SEND OUT FOR COMMENT TO ALL OF OUR INTERNAL DEPARTMENTS AS WELL AS THE UTILITIES AROUND. 
          SO THE ENGINEER DEPARTMENT AND FIRE DEPARTMENT BOTH PROVIDED SIGNIFICANT COMMENTS, ALL OF WHICH ARE CONS, UH, INCLUDED AS CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, WHICH ARE CODE REQUIREMENTS, FIRE CODE, UM, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, CONSTRUCTION REQUIREMENTS. 
          THE ENGINEERING CONDITIONS ARE MOSTLY RELATED TO DRAINAGE GRADING, UH, PUBLIC, UH, UH, IMPROVEMENTS, PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, ET CETERA. 
          UH, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DID HAVE SOME, UH, SOME COMMENTS WITH SOME CONCERNS RELATED TO PARKING TRAFFIC, AND THEN LIGHTING AND SECURITY, PARKING AND TRAFFIC WERE ANALYZED IN THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS AND WERE DETERMINED NOT TO BE A A, A FACTOR PLUS AB 2097 NOT REQUIRING PARKING, UH, SUPERSEDES A LOT OF WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO, TO DO AT THE CITY LEVEL. 
          HOWEVER, WITH DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PRO OF THIS PROJECT, AS YOU KNOW, THE BUILDING IS IN DISREPAIR. 
          IT'S VACANT, UH, THE, THE BROKEN WINDOW THEORY, IT'S CREATING NUISANCE ISSUES. 
          UNFORTUNATELY, UH, WITH NEW DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA, IT'S GONNA BRING MORE ACTIVITY TO THE AREA, WHICH WOULD BE, UH, THERE'S AN OLD TERM IN PLANNING CALLED EYES ON THE STREET, WHERE MORE ACTIVITY, UH, TENDS TO DRIVE AWAY BAD ACTIVITY. 
          UH, THERE IS THE REQUIREMENT FOR A LIGHTING PLAN AND A, AND A SECURITY PLAN THAT ARE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL. 
          UH, THE APPLICANT HAS SAID THAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO THAT, AND THAT WILL TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS PLENTY OF LIGHTING AND, UH, OBSERVATIONS SUCH AS VIDEO CAMERAS ARE, OR, UH, SECURITY TO ENSURE THAT PEOPLE AREN'T LOITERING ON SITE OR DOING ANY, ANY, UH, DAMAGE. 
          SO WITH THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE OUR STANDARD CONDITIONS AS NORMAL. 
          WE DO HAVE ONES RELATED TO THE WIRELESS FACILITY. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, THE, UH, T-MOBILE DOESN'T WANT ANY INTERRUPTION IN SERVICE, SO THEY'RE LOOKING FOR A TEMPORARY FACILITY TO BE PARKED IN A, ON THE STREET IN A, UH, A CELL ON WHEELS OR A A MOBILE WIRELESS FACILITY. 
          WE HAVE TOLD THEM AND PUT A CONDITION IN TO RE, UH, REQUIRE A, UH, ENCROACHMENT REMOVAL AGREEMENT FOR OPERATION WITHIN THE, THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, AND ALSO A TEMPORARY USE PERMIT SO THAT WE'RE ABLE TO HAVE A, UH, A TIMELINE, UH, TEMPORARY EVENTS OUTSIDE OF THE FRIDAY NIGHT, UH, FAMILY EVENTS AND THE BACK TO SCHOOL EVENTS WOULD NEED TO GET A TEMPORARY USE PERMIT THROUGH THE CITY, UH, DEPENDING ON WHAT TYPE OF USE IT IS, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE AREN'T ANY UNDUE IMPACTS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN ANALYZED, UH, UH, TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NO IMPACT ON THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY. 
          ALL OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, SO THE STREET CONVERSION TO ONE WAY, THE PARKING CONVERSION OF PARALLEL TO ANGLED PARKING AND THE PEDESTRIAN BULB OUTS AND HIGH VISIBILITY CROSSWALKS, ALL OF THOSE ARE IMPORTANT IN THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS AND ITS ABILITY TO DETERMINE THAT THERE WAS NO IMPACT AS DESIGNED. 
          SO THOSE ARE ALL REQUIRED IN CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL. 
          AND THE NOISE REDUCTION, UH, I DIDN'T GO INTO IT NECESSARILY, BUT THERE IS A, A WALL, A CONCRETE WALL ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY ADJACENT TO THE UPPER PLAY AREA THAT'S CURRENTLY SHOWN AS FOUR FEET WITH TWO FEET OF WR IRON ON TOP. 
          STAFF IS RECOMMENDING AND PUT A CONDITION REQUIRING THAT TO BE SIX FEET HIGH. 
          THAT IS TYPICAL OF NOISE, UH, NOISE REDUCING WALLS IN OTHER USES THROUGHOUT THE CITY. 
          UH, SO WE HAVE DONE THAT AS 
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WELL. 
          SO TO SUMMARIZE, THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A, UH, THIS, UH, AREA OR THIS PROPERTY IS IN DISREPAIR, SO THIS WILL ALLOW FOR REDEVELOPMENT OF THAT, UH, WHAT'S CURRENTLY IN, IN VERY POOR CONDITION TO REMOVE THE POLE SIGN THAT HAS OFTEN BEEN QUOTED AS BEING AS AN EYESORE IN THE COMMUNITY, WHILE STILL MAINTAINING THE ABILITY FOR THE WIRELESS COMPANY TO PROVIDE SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THE SCHOOL IS CONDITIONALLY ALLOWED WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN SPECIFIC PLAN. 
          IT WOULD CERTAINLY BE A RESOURCE FOR THE LOCAL COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY THOSE, UH, SCHOOL AGED CHILDREN. 
          AND WITH ALL OF THE RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OR OPERATION IMPROVEMENT MEASURES, WE ARE CONFIDENT THAT THE SCHOOL WILL BE ABLE TO OPERATE EFFECTIVELY AND WITH MINIMAL IMPACT. 
          UH, SO THE OPTIONS TONIGHT ARE TO FIND THE PROJECT EXEMPT FROM CQA UNDER, UH, 15 332, AND APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUESTS BASED ON THE FINDINGS THAT ARE LISTED IN THE RESOLUTION, UH, OR OTHER FINDINGS TO BE DETERMINED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION, OR TO FIND THAT IT'S NOT EXEMPT AND DENY BASED ON FINDINGS, UH, OR TO BE DETERMINED BY THE COMMISSION. 
          ACTUALLY, WE DON'T HAVE FINDINGS FOR DENIAL INCLUDED WITH THE RESOLUTION AT THIS POINT, OR TO CONTINUE THE ITEM FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. 
          STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THIS PROJECT, AND AS WITH ALL CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT APPLICATIONS, THE NOTICE OF DECISION WILL GO FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL AT A LATER DATE. 
          SO THAT DOES CONCLUDE STAFF'S REPORT. 
          UM, I, OH, I ALSO DID WANNA MENTION THAT I DID GET ONE EMAIL AT 5 33 THIS EVENING, WHICH IS OUTSIDE OF THE NORMAL, UH, TIMELINE FOR, FOR WRITTEN COMMENT AND THE MAJOR CONCERNS ABOUT PARKING. 
          BUT AGAIN, WE DID MENTION IN PARKING THAT WE CAN'T REQUIRE IT IN THIS LOCATION. 
          PLUS THE REDESIGN OF THE AREA IS GOING TO PROVIDE AN EXTRA 30 TO 42 PARKING SPACES. 
          OTHERWISE, THAT DOES CONCLUDE STAFF'S REPORT. 
          I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. 
          THE CITY ENGINEER IS ALSO HERE AND THE APPLICANT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MR. READER. 
          I INVITE THE APPLICANT OR THEIR REPRESENTATIVE TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES AND ADDRESS THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO GIVE THEIR 15 MINUTE PRESENTATION. 
          SO THIS IS A CHANCE FOR REPRESENTATIVES FOR INTEGRITY SCHOOL TO COME FO CHARTER SCHOOL TO COME FORWARD AND GIVE YOUR PRESENTATION, PLEASE. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          JOSEPH MARTINEZ, MARTINEZ COUTRE URBAN STUDIO ARCHITECTS AND THE, UH, APPLICANT ON BEHALF OF INTEGRITY CHARTER SCHOOL. 
          UH, FIRST OF ALL, UH, THE STAFF REPORT WAS VERY THOROUGH, SO THANK YOU. 
          UM, I HAVE WITH ME THIS EVENING THE DIRECTOR THAT IS A HAR SANCHEZ, WHO'S HERE, AND THEN THE DEVELOPER, UH, AARON ANDERSON IS ALSO HERE. 
          AND TO THE EXTENT THAT I HAVE ANYTHING REALLY TO ADD, UH, IT WAS VERY THOROUGH. 
          AND, UH, I, UM, I GREW UP IN NATIONAL CITY ON EIGHTH, I WENT TO IRA HARON AND LINCOLN ACRES, AND THEN I HAD THE GOOD FORTUNE TO GO TO UCSD AND THEN WENT TO GET MY ARCHITECTURE DEGREE AT HARVARD. 
          AND SO THIS IS A REALLY, REALLY NICE PROJECT, I MUST CONFESS. 
          AND WHEN I PRESENTED TO THE TRUSTEES, THEY LOVED IT. 
          SO I EVEN GAVE THEM A QUIZ, AND THEY WERE VERY SUCCESSFUL IN PASSING EVERYTHING THAT I ASKED THEM TO REVIEW. 
          AND SO, UH, I GOTTA TELL YOU, IT'S GONNA BE A TREMENDOUS ASSET TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          AND LOOK FOR YOUR UNANIMOUS APPROVAL. 
          IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M MORE THAN WILLING TO ANSWER THEM. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MARTINEZ. 
          MAY, WE MIGHT HAVE SOME LATER ON. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          WE WILL NOW HEAR LIVE FROM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER. 
          EACH PERSON MAY ADDRESS THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR A MAXIMUM TIME OF THREE MINUTES. 
          MADAM SECRETARY, ARE THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER, EITHER IN PERSON OR ON ZOOM? NO. 
          CHAIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I REQUEST THE SECRETARY PROCEED WITH DISCLOSING IF ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS WERE RECEIVED IN WRITING. 
          MADAM SECRETARY, NONE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          STAFF. 
          ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? UH, NO FURTHER COMMENTS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          DO ANY OF THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY CLARIFYING QUESTIONS? UH, CHAIR RECOGNIZES COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ, DO I WAIT TILL OPEN DISCUSSION, OR DO I WAIT TILL OPEN DISCUSSION? NO, NO, THIS, THIS IS THE TIME. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          , MY, UH, MY MIC IS ON, MY QUESTION IS ON 
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TRAFFIC. 
          I, I UNDERSTAND THE, THE PARKING SITUATION. 
          MARTIN, YOU DID A GREAT JOB EXPLAINING THAT MY, UH, MY CONCERN STARTS OFF WITH THE, UH, THE HOURS OF OPERATION FROM 7:00 AM TO 9:00 PM AS WE ALL KNOW THAT THOSE ARE PEAK HOURS, CITY OF SAN DIEGO DUMPING THROUGH FOURTH INTO NATIONAL CITY BOULEVARD INTO NAVAL. 
          I MEAN, WE'RE ADDING ONE MORE FACET TO THAT. 
          IF WE LOOK AT WHERE THEY ARE ORIGINALLY AT, THEY CAN JUMP ON ON EIGHT AND, YOU KNOW, ENTER THE, THE FREEWAY THERE, THEY BEING THE TRAFFIC, TRAFFIC FLOW. 
          MY CONCERN IS, UH, JUST LOOKING AT ON HERE IN FRONT OF THE SCHOOL, IS THEY'RE GONNA BE REQUIRED TO GO 25 MILES PER HOUR, ALSO OFF OF NATIONAL CITY BOULEVARD. 
          UH, THANKS FOR THE QUESTION, COMMISSIONER STEVE MANGANELLI, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORK, CITY ENGINEER. 
          UM, THOSE ARE OPTIONAL SIGNS THAT THAT COULD DEFINITELY BE CONSIDERED, UH, FOR, FOR A SCHOOL ZONE. 
          UH, RIGHT NOW, I BELIEVE IT'S THIS SECTION, NATIONAL CITY BOULEVARD. 
          I THINK IT'S POSTED AT 30 MILES PER HOUR. 
          KIND OF WHY I WAS ASKING THAT QUESTION IS BECAUSE, UM, MY CONCERN IS, UH, WHAT, HOW IS THIS CHARTER AFFECTING THE TRAFFIC FLOW? OF COURSE, BUT OTHER, UH, FACETS OF THAT AREA. 
          I, I UNDERSTAND THAT LIQUOR STORES OR ANY LICENSES THAT WILL BE ISSUING DOESN'T GET AFFECTED BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT PART OF A SCHOOL, RIGHT? UH, IT IS, UH, CHARTER SCHOOL, BUT MARTIN, HELP ME OUT. 
          WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? ? OH, I'M SORRY. 
          YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE WHICH USE? YEAH. 
          IT, IT DOESN'T GET AFFECTED BY A CHARTER SCHOOL. 
          RIGHT? I'M JUST REMINDING MYSELF. 
          OH, I SEE. 
          SO WITH, UH, ALCOHOL PERMITS, THAT CAN'T BE WITHIN 660 FEET OF A, UH, TRADITIONAL PUBLIC SCHOOL. 
          OKAY. 
          WHICH, BUT THERE ARE, THERE IS. 
          WELL, THERE IS THE LIQUOR STORE AT ONE 10 LIQUOR, BUT THAT'S, AND THAT'S ACROSS THE STREET. 
          BUT NO, THAT WOULD NOT, NORMALLY IT WOULD, THE IMPETUS WOULD BE ON THE ALCOHOL USE TO COMPLY. 
          SO IF WE WERE GONNA CALL THAT, UH, SUBJECT TO THAT REQUIREMENT, WE WOULD BE MAKING THE SCHOOL OR THE LIQUOR STORE NONCOMPLIANT. 
          BUT THAT'S NOT PART OF THIS. 
          CORRECT. 
          NO, THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME. 
          BUT THANKS FOR THE QUESTION. 
          NO, AND MY, MY OTHER JUST FOLLOW UP QUESTION, AND I'M SORRY, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S PART OF THE APPLICANT OR NOT, BUT I'D LIKE TO LOOK AT THE HOLISTIC VIEW. 
          I KNOW IN FRONT OF THEM, THEY'RE, WHAT, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THERE'S GONNA BE A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR HOUSING THAT WE'VE GONE INTO. 
          IS THAT AT ALL BEING LOOKED AT WHEN WE LOOK AT TRAFFIC? I KNOW WE WANNA STAY IN OUR LANE, BUT I WANNA LOOK AT EVERYTHING, UH, UNDERSTOOD. 
          UM, THERE IS A, WE'VE HAD A, WE HAVE HAD A PROPOSAL FOR, UH, A, A, I THINK IT'S A 400 UNIT PROJECT ON ROOSEVELT, A 200 BLOCK OF ROOSEVELT, UH, SAME BLOCK ACROSS, YOU KNOW, UH, TWO BLOCKS AWAY, BASICALLY. 
          UH, SO THE, THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS DID LOOK AT, UH, OTHER PROJECTS AROUND, BUT, UH, MOST, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT ALL COMES DOWN TO VMT, WHICH WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S SCREENED OUT OF VMT BECAUSE OF SQUA AND BECAUSE IT'S A PUBLIC SERVING FACILITY WITHIN HALF A MILE OF HIGH QUALITY TRANSIT. 
          SO OUR HANDS ARE SOMEWHAT TIED IN THAT LOCATION OR IN THAT REGARD. 
          BUT, UH, WE DID LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, THE TRAFFIC COUNTS AND THE LEVEL OF SERVICE ANYWAY IN THAT TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS. 
          AND MOST OF THE ISSUE IS GONNA BE AT THE ALWAYS STOP, WHICH AGAIN, IS GONNA BE REPLACED WITH A TRAFFIC LIGHT. 
          UH, I, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR EXACTLY WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN, BUT IT'S MY ASSUMPTION THERE'S GONNA BE SOME TIMING INVOLVED BETWEEN THE TWO TRAFFIC LIGHTS IN THAT AREA TO ENSURE FLOW. 
          UH, BUT THE CONVERSION OF THIRD STREET TO, UH, ONE WAY IS GONNA PREVENT PEOPLE TURNING OR, YOU KNOW, INTO THAT PROPERTY AND SLOWING DOWN TRAFFIC. 
          SO THEY WOULD BE FORCED TO MAKE A FULL ROUND, YOU KNOW, SORT OF A ROUND ROBIN, UM, FLOW, WHICH WILL HOPEFULLY ALLOW, YOU KNOW, A SLIGHTLY SPEEDIER EXIT INTO THE SCHOOL AREA, AND THEN PLENTY OF ROOM TO, TO STACK. 
          UH, AS FAR AS LEAVING THE AREA, THEY, YES, THEY CAN GO BACK OUT TO NATIONAL CITY BOULEVARD AND TURN RIGHT. 
          UH, BUT THERE'S ALSO THE OPTION TO TURN LEFT ON THIRD GO EASTBOUND, UM, GET OUT, UH, EITHER THROUGH DIVISION OR OVER TO FOURTH. 
          I MEAN, AS YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WILL TEND TO FOLLOW THE PATH OF LEAST RESISTANCE. 
          UM, BUT BASED ON THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, WE'RE, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE CONFIDENT WE'VE DONE AS MUCH ANALYSIS AS POSSIBLE. 
          I KNOW IT'S, UH, HINGING ON CITY SAN DIEGO'S, CIP, WHICH IS ALSO LINKED TO TRA UH, CALTRANS, I'M ASSUMING. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND, UM, ON THE, UH, I KNOW WE DON'T, ARE WE REQUESTING OR ALL HAVE ACCESS TO THEIR, WE'RE JUST GONNA TIME IT OR ARE WE GOING TO RUN A FIBER OPTIC SO THAT THEY CAN TALK TO THEMSELVES? OR WHAT, WHAT IS THE PLAN THERE? UH, AS, UH, 
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MR. READER MENTIONED, THE NEW SIGNAL WOULD BE, UM, OWNED AND OPERATED BY CITY OF SAN DIEGO, BUT WE WOULD DEFINITELY BE COORDINATING WITH THEM. 
          WE DO HAVE FIBER OPTIC ON NATIONAL CITY BOULEVARD. 
          SO ONCE WE HAVE A CHANCE, UM, TO REVIEW THE FINAL PLANS FROM THE CITY, THAT WOULD LIKELY BE A COMMENT WE WOULD MAKE THAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE THEM, UM, CONNECT TO OUR, UH, FIBER OPTIC THAT'S, UH, AT THE SIGNAL AT, UH, FIRST STREET IN MAINE IN NATIONAL CITY BOULEVARD. 
          SO IT'S ONLY A BLOCK AWAY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO HOPEFULLY THEY CAN, UH, WORK, WORK WITH US ON SOME COST SHARING TO MAKE THAT CONNECTION SO THAT WE CAN SYNCHRONIZE THOSE SIGNALS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, CHAIR RECOGNIZES, COMMISSIONER FOREMAN, UH, OF THE CURRENT STUDIO STUDENT BODY. 
          HOW MANY PEOPLE LIVE IN NATIONAL CITY AND CAN YOU ESTIMATE HOW MANY OF THEM STUDENTS WALK? THAT'S A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. 
          COULD YOU PLEASE COME FORWARD TO THE, TO THE PODIUM PLEASE? THANK YOU. 
          DO I NEED TO PRESS ANYTHING? OH, IT'S FINE. 
          UM, WE HAVE ABOUT HALF OF OUR STUDENT POPULATION LIVES IN NATIONAL CITY. 
          UM, MANY DO LIVE IN THAT SAN DIEGO AREA. 
          UM, WE ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE THAT MANY STUDENTS WHO WALK. 
          UM, BUT MANY, OR I SHOULDN'T SAY MANY. 
          SEVERAL OF OUR STUDENTS LIVE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE ARE PROPOSING A NEW SCHOOL AT. 
          SO THEY WILL BE WALKING TO SCHOOL. 
          WELL, I ASK, 'CAUSE REALLY, WHEN IT COMES TO, UM, A PROPOSAL FOR A SCHOOL, I THINK THE PRIORITY IS ON THE SAFETY OF THE STUDENTS GETTING THERE. 
          AND I ADMIRE THE FACT THAT NATIONAL CITY IS ONLY, WHAT, A FEW SQUARE MILES. 
          SO IT REALLY GOES TO SHOW THAT THIS CAN BE A COMMUNITY THAT, UM, HAS, YOU KNOW, WALKING ACCESSIBILITY TO THEIR SCHOOLS AND, UH, HOPE THAT WE, YOU KNOW, REALLY BUILD AROUND THAT. 
          YOU MENTIONED SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PEDESTRIAN LANDSCAPE, WHICH I WOULD IMAGINE COULD WARRANT A 25 MILE PER HOUR SPEED LIMIT, BUT THAT, BECAUSE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 30 AND 25 IS VERY DRASTIC WHEN IT COMES TO COLLISIONS. 
          UM, SO YEAH, IF THIS COULD JUST BE AN EXAMPLE OF A SCHOOL THAT REALLY WANTS TO WARRANT MORE WALKABILITY FROM THEIR STUDENTS, AND YOU'RE SAYING IT'S THERE, IT WOULD BE, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK OF ALL OUR, TO SEE THAT THE , THE SAFETY IS REALLY A PRIORITY. 
          AND I WAS WONDERING IF YOU COULD ALSO CLARIFY THIS ONE-WAY, STREET CONVERSION, HOW THAT MAY RELATE TO ACCESS TO THE SCHOOL. 
          UH, SURE. 
          THE, THE ONE-WAY CONVERSION WOULD BE FROM A AVENUE EAST OF THE SCHOOL, ONE BLOCK TO NASHVILLE CITY BOULEVARD ON THIRD STREET. 
          SO EAST THIRD STREET FROM NATIONAL CITY BOULEVARD TO A, SO IT WOULD ONLY BE ALLOWED TO GO WESTBOUND. 
          SO THE TRAFFIC WOULD GO, UH, NORTH ON NASHVILLE CITY BOULEVARD, UH, EAST ON SECOND, AND THEN SOUTH ON A AVENUE, AND THEN AROUND BASICALLY A LEFT AGAIN AROUND ONTO, ONTO THIRD STREET. 
          SO THAT WOULD, WHAT IS THAT RECOMMENDATION BASED ON? IS IT LIKE THEIR FRONT DOOR OR WHAT? UH, IT'S, WELL, IT'S BASED ON, ON THE MAXIMUM FLOW AND, AND GETTING PEOPLE AS FAR AWAY FROM THEIR POINT OF ENTRY AS POSSIBLE. 
          IT'S SORT OF LIKE YOUR, YOUR, YOUR FAST FOOD DRIVE THROUGH, YOU WANT IT TO BE ABLE TO QUEUE A LOT OF CARS AND THAT ENTRANCE BE, OR THE WINDOW BE AS FAR FROM THE STREET AS POSSIBLE SO YOU CAN QUEUE AS MANY VEHICLES AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S ALWAYS GONNA BE OUR MAIN ISSUE. 
          SO THEY WOULD BE COMING DOWN SECOND. 
          SOME PEOPLE WOULD, WOULD DROP OFF ON A, BUT THEY COULD CONTINUE AROUND ONTO, ONTO EAST THIRD STREET AND THAT LOCATION. 
          SO IT STOPS PEOPLE COMING IN, YOU KNOW, IF THEY GOING NORTHBOUND ON NATIONAL CITY BOULEVARD, MAKING A RIGHT ON THIRD UNDER THE CURRENT SITUATION, IF THEY'RE TRYING TO GET INTO A QUEUE AND DROP OFF KIDS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S GONNA BE FISTICUFFS FOR SURE. 
          SO IT JUST ENSURES A CERTAIN ONE WAY MOTION AROUND. 
          WELL, AS I SAID, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ON WALKABILITY. 
          I THINK TRAFFIC COMING, IF THAT COULD BE TIED IN, HOW MANY TREES ARE GONNA BE PLANTED WITH THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT? UH, I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THE SITE, THE SITE PLAN AGAIN, BUT THERE WAS SOME IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 12 TO 15 TREES, I THINK. 
          DAM IT. 
          IS THERE ANY SPECIFIC REQUIREMENT THAT THE CITY HAS FOR TREES IN NEW DEVELOPMENT? UH, GENERALLY SPEAKING, THERE IS A, WE NEED ONE TREE FOR EVERY 50 FEET, BUT THIS IS, THIS DOES EXCEED THAT. 
          UH, THERE IS THE REQUIREMENT IN THE DOWNTOWN SPECIFIC PLAN TO USE TREES OF A CERTAIN ORNAMENTAL, UH, VARIETY. 
          SO THAT WILL BE ADDRESSED DURING THE BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS. 
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THERE WE GO, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE, 14, 12 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          OH, PLUS THE TWO IN THE MIDDLE, SO THE 12 ON THE OUTSIDE TOO IN THE MIDDLE, PLUS SEVERAL OTHER SHRUBS. 
          UH, WE DO HAVE A PRETTY EXTENSIVE, UH, IN THE PLANS ATTACHED AS SOME EXAMPLES OF WHAT THOSE TREES AND SHRUBS WILL BE, WHICH WILL BE THE PLANS ATTACHED TO YOUR STAFF REPORT ARE THE EXHIBITS. 
          SO WE WILL BE LOOKING AT THAT WHEN THE SITE IMPROVEMENT PLANS COME IN. 
          SO WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS WHAT WILL BE INSTALLED. 
          THAT'S IT, BILL. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          UM, COULD WE GET VICE CHAIR CASTLE BACK UP ON THE SCREEN PLEASE? ANY QUESTIONS? VICE CHAIR CASTLE. 
          YES. 
          HELLO EVERYBODY. 
          UM, THIS LOOKS BEAUTIFUL. 
          I LOVE THE COLORS, I LOVE THE VIBRANCY OF IT. 
          I THINK IT IS, UM, SOMETHING THAT LIKE, LIKE, UM, MR. READER SAID, UH, THAT WOULD, AS YOU'RE COMING INTO OUR CITY, IT WOULD BE JUST A, A STAPLE, UM, AS YOU'RE COMING IN SOMETHING THAT WOULD, WOULD LOOK NICE AND, AND BE GOOD. 
          UM, I DO HAVE CONCERN. 
          I'M GLAD THAT, UH, THE, THE PARKING WAS ADDRESSED. 
          I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE A 25 MILE. 
          I KNOW IT'S NOT VERY MUCH, BUT WITH THE LIGHTS THERE, UM, YOU MIGHT SEE PEOPLE TRYING TO SPEED TO GET THROUGH THE LIGHT. 
          UM, SO THAT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT OF A CONCERN FOR ME IS PICKING UP THE PACE A LITTLE BIT RIGHT BEFORE THE SCHOOL, JUST TO MAKE THE LIGHT. 
          UM, SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MAYBE, UH, 25 MILE AN HOUR, UH, ZONE THROUGH THROUGH SCHOOL TIMES, UM, THROUGH THEIR, ESPECIALLY WHEN CHILDREN ARE PRESENT, JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD, UM, SOME CHILDREN HIT, UH, ON THEIR WAY TO AND FROM SCHOOL, AND OBVIOUSLY THE SAFETY OF THE CHILDREN IS THE, THE NUMBER ONE CONCERN. 
          UM, SECOND WAS, UH, FOR ME, THE PARKING, AND I THINK THE PARKING WAS WELL ADDRESSED. 
          UM, IT LOOKED LIKE THERE ARE 60 TO 65 EMPLOYEES THAT ARE, UM, NOT ALL AT ONE TIME, BUT SCHEDULED TO BE THERE. 
          UH, AND DOING THE MATH, 27 OF THEM WILL BE ALLOWED TO REMAIN AT THE, THE INTEGRITY CHARTER SCHOOL NOW. 
          UM, AND WE'RE OPENING UP AN ADDITIONAL 30 TO 40 PARKING SPACES. 
          UM, SO THAT PUTS US OVER THE AMOUNT OF, OF, OF, UM, UH, UH, STAFF FOR THE, UH, UM, THE SCHOOL AND THE SCHOOL HOURS AND EVEN LEAVING IF WE GO ABOVE 30, EVEN LEAVING SOME ADDITIONAL PARKING FOR RESIDENTS AROUND THE AREA. 
          UM, NOW MY QUESTION IS, UM, HOW IS THE PARKING SITUATION BEING HANDLED? UM, ARE, IS IT GOING TO BE, UH, IS THAT AREA PERMIT PARKING FOR, UM, RESIDENTS NOW? IS THAT PART OF THAT, THAT, UH, PERMITTED AREA? UM, ONE AND TWO. 
          UM, IS IT GOING TO BE PERMITTED, UH, PARKING FOR RESIDENTS? AND IF THE STAFF, UM, MY CONCERN WOULD BE IF WHERE, WHERE EXACTLY ARE THESE ADDITIONAL PARKINGS COMING IN AND IF THESE ARE JUST ADDITIONAL PARKINGS THAT ARE USED BY RESIDENTS, WOULD THE STAFF BE PUSHING OUT FURTHER INTO, UM, OTHER RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS? SO, UM, I THINK THAT THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF, UM, MY QUESTION IS HOW EXACTLY IS THAT PARKING SITUATION GONNA WORK? WELL, THANKS FOR, FOR THE QUESTION, COMMISSIONER THROUGH THE CHAIR. 
          UH, THERE IS NO PARKING DISTRICT IN THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION CURRENTLY. 
          UH, WE DON'T PLAN PARKING DISTRICTS. 
          THEY ARE REQUESTED BY COMMUNITIES THAT ARE IMPACTED, UH, USUALLY BY A LARGE EMPLOYER OR APARTMENT COMPLEX IS, UH, AN APARTMENT COMPLEX IS SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES, WHICH REALLY PUTS A BURDEN, ESPECIALLY, UH, THE APARTMENT, UH, AT NIGHT, UH, WHICH IS WHEN MOST PEOPLE ARE LOOKING TO PARK. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE HOPING IN A SITUATION LIKE THIS IS WITH DAYTIME HOURS BEING SCHOOL HOURS AND, YOU KNOW, SOME FOLKS BEING AWAY AT WORK, THEY WE'RE HOPING THAT THERE'S NOT GONNA BE A PARKING IMPACT. 
          OBVIOUSLY THERE'S ABOUT A WASH WHEN IT COMES TO ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES THAT ARE BEING PROVIDED. 
          UM, SO IF THERE WAS AN IMPACT IN THE AREA THAT WAS, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS DETERMINED, THEN THE, UH, THE, THE COMMUNITY COULD COME TOGETHER AND APPLY FOR A, A PARKING DISTRICT. 
          THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT GOES THROUGH THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AND THE TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMITTEE. 
          THEY DO HAVE TO GET, I THINK THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE ON THE STREET TO, TO VOTE, IF YOU WILL, TO, TO APPLY. 
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IT CAN'T JUST BE ONE OR TWO. 
          SO, UH, ANYWAY, THERE WAS, AGAIN, THE PARKING ANALYSIS WAS PRETTY THOROUGH AND WITH THE CONVERSIONS WE'RE, WE HAVE AN, WE HAVE AREAS, WE HAVE MORE PARKING THAT'S AVAILABLE THAN CURRENTLY AS FAR AS WHETHER OR NOT THEY WOULD BE HELD FOR CERTAIN USERS, THAT IS, THAT IS NOT ANTICIPATED. 
          SO IT WOULD BE FIRST COME, FIRST SERVED STREET PARKING. 
          OKAY, PERFECT. 
          THAT WAS BASICALLY MY QUESTION. 
          I KNOW WE'RE ADDING ADDITIONAL PARKING THERE. 
          I JUST, UM, WANTED TO SEE IF THAT WOULD, IF IT WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR THE STAFF, IF THERE WAS DESIGNATED PARKING FOR STAFF OR IF IT WAS, UH, FIRST COME, FIRST SERVE FOR RESIDENTS AND STAFF. 
          UM, BECAUSE THAT, I MEAN, YOU MIGHT POTENTIALLY SEE AN ISSUE IF THE RESIDENTS IN THE AREA HAVE MULTIPLE CARS AND, YOU KNOW, UM, ARE FILLING, FILLING UP THAT, AND THERE'S NOWHERE FOR STAFF TO PARK. 
          THANK YOU. 
          VICE CHAIR. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, I RECOGNIZE MYSELF. 
          I HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS ON THIS. 
          UM, JUST TO REINFORCE, UH, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE, UH, CONDITION OF APPROVAL ADDED REQUIRING A 25 MILE AN HOUR, UM, SPEED ZONE THROUGH ALONG THE NORTH AND SOUTHBOUND, UM, LANES OF, UH, NATIONAL CITY BOULEVARD. 
          I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE DISTANCE IS BEFORE AND AFTER THE, WHERE THE SCHOOL WOULD BE LOCATED. 
          I THINK THERE'S SOME STATE MANDATED CRITERIA FOR THAT, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT, UM, UH, APPLIED ALONG NORTH OR, UH, EXCUSE ME, UH, NATIONAL CITY BOULEVARD. 
          SO I WOULD, UH, AND I THINK THERE'S A CONSENSUS HERE AMONGST THE, UM, COMMISSIONERS, UH, PRESENT AND ON ZOOM THAT THE 25 MILE AN HOUR. 
          YES. 
          UH, THANK, THANK YOU, UH, CHAIRMAN MILLER. 
          UM, THOSE SIGNS W COULD ACTUALLY BE, UM, APPROVED UNDER MY AUTHORITY AS THE CITY ENGINEER AND INSTALLED BY OUR PUBLIC WORKS STAFF. 
          THERE WOULD BE TWO SIGNS, ONE IN ADVANCE FOR NORTHBOUND, ONE IN ADVANCE FOR SOUTHBOUND. 
          UM, THOSE WOULD BE APPLIED CONSISTENT WITH THE STANDARDS OF THE MANUAL, UM, CALIFORNIA MANUAL ON UNIFORM TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES. 
          UM, WE WOULD ACTUALLY PREFER TO INSTALL THOSE WITH, WITH, WITH OUR EMPLOYEES, UH, SEPARATE FROM THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL OF THIS PROJECT. 
          I THINK IT'S A VERY GOOD POINT YOU'VE ALL BROUGHT UP. 
          AND WE TYPICALLY WILL INSTALL THOSE IN SCHOOL ZONES THROUGHOUT NATIONAL CITY. 
          UM, AND WE WOULD JUST COORDINATE THAT TO HAVE THOSE INSTALLED PRIOR TO THE OPENING. 
          AND THAT'S IRRESPECTIVE OF WHETHER IT'S A CHARTER SCHOOL OR NOT? THAT IS CORRECT. 
          ANY, ANY SCHOOL CHARTER OR OTHERWISE WE COULD INSTALL THOSE SIGNS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, SO YOU, YOU'LL HAVE MY COMMITMENT THAT WE WILL INSTALL THOSE SIGNS UNDER MY AUTHORITY PRIOR TO THE SCHOOL OPENING. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU SIR. 
          THEN, THEN I WITHDRAW THAT, UH, CONDITION OF APPROVAL. 
          UM, SO FAR AS THE PALLET FOR TREES, THE TREE PALLET, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ABSOLUTELY NO EUCALYPTUS TREES AS PART OF THAT. 
          THAT'S A PET PEEVE OF MINE. 
          UH, THEY'RE NOT NATIVE TO THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE AT ALL. 
          UM, AND I WOULD ONLY, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ONLY NATIVE TREES ON THAT LANDSCAPE PALETTE, PLEASE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NOTED. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, MOVING ON THEN. 
          HAVING HEARD, HEARD ALL COMMENTS FROM MEMBERS OF THE STAFF AND THE PUBLIC ON THIS ITEM, IS THERE A COMMISSIONER WISHING TO BRING A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? THIS IS ONLY TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          I NEED A VERBAL MOTION AND A VERBAL SECOND. 
          I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER FOREMAN SECOND. 
          AND, OKAY. 
          WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER FOREMAN AND A SECOND BY VICE CHAIR CASTLE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, BEING THE MAKER OF THE MOTION. 
          COMMISSIONER FOREMAN HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON THE MOTION. 
          ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER FOREMAN. 
          NO FURTHER COMMENTS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          WE WILL NOW HAVE ROLL CALL VOTE ON CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          VICE CHAIR CASTLE CASTLE. 
          AYE. 
          COMMISSIONER FOREMAN. 
          AYE. 
          COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ AYE. 
          CHAIR MILLER AYE. 
          MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH THE RECUSAL OF A COMMISSIONER. 
          MENTA. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          IS THERE A COMMISSIONER THAT WOULD LIKE TO BRING A MOTION TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION OF APPROVAL? 
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I'LL BRING THE, THE MOTION TO ADOPT THAT APPROVED. 
          OKAY. 
          DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL GO AHEAD AND SECOND THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          WE HAVE A MOTION BY VICE CHAIR CASTLE AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 20 20 24 DASH 13 A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR PROPOSED EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTION AND INTEGRITY CHARTER SCHOOL TO BE LOCATED AT 2 29 TO 2 41 NATIONAL CITY BOULEVARD. 
          CASE FILE NUMBER 2023 DASH 14 CUP BEING THE MAKER OF THE MOTION. 
          UH, VICE CHAIR CASTLE HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO THE MOTION. 
          DO YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER COMMENT? UM, I WOULD JUST SAY INTEGRITY CHARTER SCHOOL HAS BEEN PART OF THE NATIONAL CITY COMMUNITY FOR A LONG TIME AND THEY HAVE, UM, BEEN AN UPSTANDING, UH, SCHOOL IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          AND I'M, I'M HAPPY TO SEE THEM PROCEED FORWARD AND GROW AND, UH, TO INVEST IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          AND, UM, I LOOK FORWARD TO WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO FOR OUR YOUTH HERE IN NATIONAL CITY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          VICE CHAIR. 
          ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY. 
          WE WILL HAVE ROLL CALL PLEASE. 
          VICE CHAIR CASTLE. 
          AYE. 
          COMMISSIONER FOREMAN. 
          FOREMAN AYE. 
          COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ? AYE. 
          CHAIR MILLER. 
          AYE. 
          THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH THE RECUSAL OF COMMISSIONER ARMENTO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MADAM SECRETARY. 
          COULD STAFF PLEASE ASK, UH, COMMISSIONER ARMA TO PLEASE COME BACK IN? UM, THANK YOU TO THE APPLICANT AND THE REPRESENTATIVES, UH, THAT IS THE, UH, END OF THAT DISCUSSION, SO WE'LL BE MOVING ON TO OTHER ITEMS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR PARTICIPATING IN, IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT DEMOCRACY. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A ONE MINUTE BREAK OR, UH, I'M SORRY, A, A FIVE MINUTE BREAK. 
          UM, SO THE TIME IS NOW 7 28. 
          MOVE ON TO OTHER BUSINESS. 
          ITEM SIX IS THE 
          [6. Adoption of Planning Commission Bylaws]
ADOPTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION BYLAWS. 
          UM, COUNSEL, I THINK YOU WERE TELLING ME EARLIER THAT WE DON'T HAVE NO, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE GOOD. 
          WE CAN CONTINUE. 
          OH, WE ARE GOOD. 
          OKAY. 
          YES, WE ARE GOOD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WILL STAFF PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND SUMMARIZE THE ITEM FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION BYLAWS. 
          UM, I, UM, I'M ASHLYN LUTZ. 
          I'M THE DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY. 
          UH, WE BROUGHT THIS ITEM TO YOU, UM, AUGUST 5TH AND PROPOSED SOME CHANGES TO THE BYLAWS. 
          UM, I RECEIVED SOME COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS AND I'VE INCLUDED SOME NEW LANGUAGE. 
          UM, SO I WILL GO OVER, UM, WHAT THAT NEW LANGUAGE IS, AND IF, IF YOU ALL ARE OKAY WITH THAT, THEN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH TAKING A VOTE TO ADOPT THE BYLAWS. 
          SO FIRST WE RECEIVED, I RECEIVED A COMMENT ABOUT ADDING LANGUAGE ABOUT, UM, WHEN COMMISSIONERS ARE ONBOARDED, UM, TO LOOK AT THE BYLAWS. 
          SO I INCLUDED LANGUAGE THAT WHEN NEW COMMISSIONERS COME ON, UH, WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THE BYLAWS AND IF WE WANT TO AMEND THEM AT THAT TIME, WE COULD DO SO. 
          UM, OR NOT, IT'S UP TO THE COMMISSION AT THAT TIME. 
          THE NEXT COMMENT I RECEIVED WAS TO, UM, INCLUDE SOME ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE TO THE MISSION STATEMENT. 
          UM, I INCLUDED ON THE FIRST PAGE, UM, THE MISSION STATEMENT TO INCLUDE, UM, IT'LL SAY, UH, ALMOST GONNA READ IT TO MAKE IT EASIER, THE COMMISSION SHALL PROVIDE A FORUM TO ENCOURAGE COMMUNICATION FROM PERSONS, ORGANIZATIONS AND INSTITUTIONS IN THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY ABOUT LAND USE HOUSING. 
          AND I ADDED TRANSPORTATION, ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY AND SAFETY. 
          I STRUCK IN LANDSCAPING AND THEN THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY. 
          AND THEN I ALSO HAD A COMMENT ABOUT INCLUDING, UM, CQA REVIEW, UH, SINCE IT WAS NOT, IT'S NOT INCLUDED AS PART OF STATE LAW OR IN OUR MUNICIPAL CODE. 
          SO I DID NOT INCLUDE IT IN THE FIRST SECTION. 
          BUT IN THE SECTION THAT TALKS ABOUT ADDITIONAL DUTIES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, I INCLUDE INCLUDED LANGUAGE TO SAY THAT THE COMMISSION IS TO REVIEW PROPOSED PROJECTS FOR POTENTIAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS AND COMPLIANCE WITH THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT TO ADDRESS THAT COMMENT. 
          AND THEN I ALSO INCLUDED LANGUAGE THAT STATES THAT PLANNING COMMISSION 
          [01:10:01]
MEMBERS ARE TO BE RESIDENTS OF NATIONAL CITY. 
          AND THEN FOUR, THIS COVERS THE HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE AS WELL. 
          THE TWO EX-OFFICIO MEMBERS DO ARE NOT REQUIRED TO BE NATIONAL CITY RESIDENTS, BUT THEY NEED TO HAVE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTISE. 
          SO I INCLUDED THAT SPECIFICITY IN THIS AS WELL. 
          AND THEN, UM, OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, UM, ASKED ME TO MAKE IT CONSISTENT. 
          THERE WAS A CHANGE BACK, I BELIEVE IN 2019 TO THE MUNICIPAL CODE TO UPDATE THE DUTIES OF THE HOUSING AND ADVISORY COMMITTEE. 
          UM, I MADE THE CHANGE TO MAKE IT CONSISTENT WITH THE MUNICIPAL CODE. 
          SO THOSE WERE THE CHANGES THAT I MADE BASED ON YOUR COMMENTS. 
          AND SO IF EVERYTHING IS OKAY OR IF YOU WANT ME TO MAKE ADDITIONAL CHANGES, UM, NOW WOULD BE THE TIME TO DO SO. 
          IF NOT, UM, YOU GUYS CAN TAKE A VOTE IF YOU'D LIKE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNSEL, DO ANY OF THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OF STAFF? COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ, JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND ELABORATING ON THE EXPERTISE THAT KIND OF SEEMED INTERESTING. 
          YEAH, SO FOR THE HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEMBERS, THERE IS A REQUIREMENT THAT THEY HAVE SUBJECT AREA EXPERTISE. 
          UM, AND I THINK CARLOS COULD PROBABLY SPEAK TO WHAT THAT EXACTLY IS. 
          I BELIEVE THE LANGUAGE IS THE EXAMPLE. 
          SORRY, ONE SECOND. 
          ONE 18. 
          OH, THANK YOU. 
          SO SUBJECT MA MATTER EXPERTISE IN HOUSING RELATED MATTERS. 
          SO CARLOS, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE? UH, SURE. 
          UH, IN 2019 WHEN WE BROUGHT FOR, OR WHEN CITY COUNCIL, UH, BROUGHT FORWARD THE REQUEST TO CREATE A HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE, ONE OF THEIR, UH, BULLET POINTS FOR THE COMMITTEE WAS TO HAVE EXPERIENCE IN HOUSING DEVELOPMENT SO THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION ACTING AS A HOUSING COMMITTEE CAN MAKE INFORMED CHOICES WITH REGARDS TO ADDITIONAL HOUSING DEVELOPMENT IN NATIONAL CITY. 
          AND SO WE CARRIED THAT LANGUAGE INSIDE OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF THOSE TWO ADDITIONAL, UH, MEMBERS AS THE HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE, UH, BASED ON, UH, CITY COUNCIL'S DIRECTION TO HAVE THAT EXPERTISE ON BOARD. 
          ONE LAST COMMENT. 
          SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, CAR CARLOS HAS, UH, HAVE WE HAD ANY COMMISSIONERS THAT WARRANT THOSE REQUIREMENTS? YES, WE, WE HAVE IN FACT, UH, OUR CURRENT, UH, HOUSING ADVISORY MEMBER, UH, I BELIEVE THERE'S ONE VACANCY, CORRECT? THERE'S, I BELIEVE THEY'RE, THEY'RE FULLY FILLED POSITIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          TWO. 
          SO THE TWO THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON DO HAVE, ARE EITHER, UM, IN THIS FIELD OF REAL ESTATE OR HOUSING OR IN HOUSING SERVICES. 
          SO THEY DO HAVE THAT EXPERTISE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, DO ANY OF THE OTHER PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS HAVE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS REGARDING THE BYLAWS? IS THERE A MEMBER CHAIR? I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADD. 
          OKAY. 
          I THINK THAT, UH, ASHLYN UH, MS. MS. LU DID A VERY GOOD JOB ON, UM, ADDING IN ALL OF THE ITEMS THAT WE HAD REQUESTED. 
          AND I, I THINK IT LOOKS, IT LOOKS GREAT. 
          THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR FOR YOUR COMMENT. 
          OKAY. 
          IS THERE A MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION THAT WOULD LIKE TO BRING A MOTION TO ADOPT THE PLANNING COMMISSION BYLAWS? I NEED A VOICE. 
          ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF A MOTION, PLEASE. 
          SO MOVED. 
          OKAY. 
          AND I NEED A SECOND. 
          I'LL SECOND. 
          OKAY. 
          WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMM, UH, EXCUSE ME, VICE CHAIR SEL AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ TO ADOPT THE AMENDED PLANNING COMMISSION BYLAWS BEING THE MAKER OF THE MOTION. 
          VICE CHAIR CASTLE HAS THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON THE MOTION. 
          VICE CHAIR, DO YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? UH, NO. 
          I, I, I JUST THINK IT'S, IT'S A GOOD THING THAT WE ARE UPDATING THIS AND, AND I'M, I'M PROUD TO BE A PART OF THE UPDATE, UM, FOR THIS. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          SEEING NO OTHER COMMENTS, UH, WE WILL TAKE ROLL CALL. 
          VOTE VICE CHAIR CASTLE. 
          CASTLE. 
          AYE. 
          COMMISSIONER MENTHA AYE. 
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COMMISSIONER FOREMAN? AYE. 
          COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ? AYE. 
          CHAIR MILLER. 
          AYE. 
          MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, WE'LL MOVE 
          [STAFF REPORTS]
ON TO STAFF REPORTS. 
          UH, DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY. 
          UH, NOTHING AT THIS TIME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT? NOTHING, UH, THANK YOU. 
          ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. 
          UH, THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. 
          I'D JUST LIKE TO THANK THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WERE HERE EARLIER AND FOR THEIR PATIENCE AND DEALING WITH THE, UH, THE QUORUM ISSUE. 
          AND, UH, WANTED TO THANK STEVE FOR SHOWING UP. 
          HE'S ALREADY LEFT, BUT, UH, I ALWAYS APPRECIATE IT WHEN, UH, OTHER STAFF IS, MAKES, UH, MAKES TIME FOR US, UH, ESPECIALLY WITH THEIR EXPERTISE ON, ON MATTERS SUCH AS PARKING AND TRAFFIC. 
          OTHERWISE, IT'S A PLEASURE TO SERVE THE COMMISSION AS ALWAYS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU MR. READER. 
          COMMISSIONERS, VICE CHAIR CASTLE. 
          UH, I, I DO HAVE TO REPORT 'CAUSE I FELL OFF THIS CURB TODAY THAT THERE ARE, UH, IN THE KIMBALL PARK PARKING LOT, THERE ARE MANY POTHOLES, ESPECIALLY COMING OUT OF THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB. 
          THERE'S ALSO, UM, IT'S A BIG STEP DOWN, UH, WHICH IS MORE, UH, BE BECAUSE OF THE, THE DEPTH OF THE, THE POTHOLES AND THE DIRT THAT'S THERE. 
          UM, IT SHOULD ACTUALLY BE LOOKED AT BEFORE SOMEBODY SERIOUSLY GETS INJURED. 
          AND THERE'S ALSO A CUTOFF PIPE THERE THAT, UM, I, I ABRASED MYSELF ON. 
          IT LOOKS LIKE MAYBE AT ONE POINT THERE WAS A, A SIGN STICKING OUT OF THE, UM, THE CEMENT THERE AND THEY JUST CHOPPED IT OFF AT THE BASE. 
          SO NOW THERE'S ABOUT A TWO THREE INCH, UH, METAL PIPE STICKING OUT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          VICE CHAIR. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ. 
          I'D LIKE TO ALSO THANK STAFF FOR, UH, THE REPORTS. 
          I KNOW IT WAS, UH, VERY, UH, GOING OVER TRAFFIC. 
          IT'S NOT THE MOST INTERESTING THING OUT THERE, . 
          BUT, UM, THANK YOU FOR, UH, ENTERTAINING MY QUESTIONS. 
          UM, I REALLY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ARMA. 
          UM, I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT, UH, THIS WEEKEND I MET A FAMILY THAT, UH, HAD A LITTLE GIRL. 
          UH, SHE WAS ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE YEARS OLD AND SHE, UM, WAS REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE BIKE LANES AND IT JUST, UH, MADE MY HEART KIND OF GIDDY TO SEE THAT, UH, THERE'S ACTUALLY FAMILIES AND KIDS OUT THERE ENJOYING THE BIKE LANES, SO IT'S AWESOME. 
          AND ALSO, UM, JUST WANNA ENCOURAGE THE PUBLIC TO, UH, REALLY BE A LITTLE BIT MORE AWARE WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE CITY AND PARTICIPATE. 
          UM, YEAH. 
          AND ALSO, UH, JUST, UH, ITS HISPANIC HERITAGE MAN, SO YEAH. 
          CELEBRATE. 
          THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER FOREMAN. 
          WELL, I'M VERY SORRY TO HEAR WHAT HAPPENED TO RANDY TODAY AND THAT WAS, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK WARRANTS EXACTLY WHAT YOU TALKED ABOUT, WHICH IS THAT SOMEONE GOT REALLY DANGEROUSLY HURT SO WE COULD ALWAYS RESPOND TO SERIOUS ISSUES AS THEY UNCOVER THEMSELVES. 
          THAT WOULD BE GREAT. 
          AND I REALLY APPRECIATED HOW STEVEN QUICKLY RESPONDED TO SAYING THAT HE, WE HAVE, HE, WE HAVE HIS COMMITMENT TO 25 MILES AN HOUR AND JUST SHOWS, UH, THE EFFECTIVENESS OF OUR UNITY. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          YES, MR. READER? UH, SORRY TO INTERRUPT, BUT JUST TO BACK ON THAT, JUST SO THE PUBLIC, THIS LISTENING KNOWS IF THERE ARE ANY PROBLEMS THAT YOU SEE AROUND THE CITY, WE HAVE OUR C CLICK FIX APP, WHICH IS PERFECT FOR, UH, ITEMS SUCH AS WHAT MS. CASTLE MENTIONED. 
          UH, OF COURSE WE'LL REFER THAT TO THE CITY ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT TO, TO FIX, UH, BUT THERE'S ALWAYS THE OPPORTUNITY C CLICK FIX ON OUR C CLICK FIX. 
          IT'S ON OUR CITY WEBSITE. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          AND WE ALSO KNOWN AS NATIONAL CITY CONNECT. 
          THAT'S WHY HE'S THE BOSS. 
          . 
          UH, AND WE WILL RESPOND, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL RESPOND TO THIS ONE REGARDLESS. 
          OKAY, THANKS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MR. READER. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I WANNA THANK STAFF TOO FOR YOUR PATIENCE FOR TONIGHT, UH, AND US GETTING A QUORUM, UM, ON A DIFFERENT MATTER. 
          UM, I HAVE BEEN WONDERING ABOUT PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS AS AMBASSADORS OF NATIONAL CITY. 
          UH, MY WIFE AND I OVER THE WEEKEND WERE AT A RESTAURANT UP IN SAN DIEGO THAT I THOUGHT WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD ADDITION TO NATIONAL CITY, BUT I'M NOT SURE, I'M A LITTLE HESITANT ABOUT APPROACHING LIKE THE MANAGER AND SAYING, HEY, I'M A MEMBER OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND I'D LIKE REALLY LIKE TO SEE YOU MOVE TO, YOU KNOW, OPEN UP A, A BRANCH OF YOUR RESTAURANT DOWN IN NATIONAL CITY, CALIFORNIA. 
          UH, HOW WOULD WE GO ABOUT THAT? WHAT, WHAT ARE THE GUIDELINES, 
          [01:20:02]
UH, EITHER LEGAL OR WHATEVER FOR US BEING AMBASSADORS FOR NATIONAL CITY? SURE. 
          WELL, UH, WELL FIRST OF ALL, YOU ARE COMMUNITY MEMBERS, SO YOU'RE WILLING, SO YOU'RE ABLE TO TALK TO WHOEVER YOU LIKE, BUT WE DO HAVE, UH, E STAFF WITH E ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT EXPERTISE. 
          MM-HMM. 
           IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. 
          WE HAVE PEDRO GARCIA THAT DOES A LOT OF OUTREACH. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S YOUR POTENTIAL BUSINESSES. 
          SO, UH, IF YOU WANT TO EITHER CONTACT ME OR I CAN GET YOU IN TOUCH WITH, WITH PEDRO, AND, AND HE'S, HE'S A GOOD GUY TO TALK TO. 
          WE'LL, WE'LL SEE WHAT . 
          WELL, IDEALLY I WOULD, I, YOU KNOW, LIKE IN THIS CASE, I WOULD'VE SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE MANAGER, MR. MS MANAGER, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M FROM NATIONAL CITY AND I'M PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBER AND, AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE YOUR RESTAURANT DOWN IN NATIONAL CITY AND, UH, WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED? AND IF THEY SAY YES, THEN OKAY, THEN I WOULD JUST PROCEED TO SAY, OKAY, CONTACT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. 
          OKAY. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU HEAR THAT PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS BE AMBASSADORS, SO, OKAY. 
          UH, BEYOND THAT, UH, I HAVE NOTHING, NOTHING ELSE. 
          SO THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS HEREBY ADJOURNED UNTIL THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING OF OCTOBER 7TH, 2024 AT 6:00 PM THE TIME IS NOW 7:48 PM.
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