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[Traffic Safety Committee on July 10, 2024.]
NAME IS CYNTHIA S I'M COMMITTEE MEMBER FOR TRAFFIC CONTROL MEETING, UH, CALLING IN MEETING TO ORDER.IT'S 1 0 2 ON THE 10TH OF, UH, 20, UH, JULY 10TH, 2024.
THIS IS THE TRAFFIC SAFETY MEETING.
WE ARE WITHOUT OUR REGULAR CHAIR.
SO WE NEED TO, UM, PLACE A MOTION, UM, FOR DESIGNATION OF A CHAIR FOR TODAY'S MEETING.
SO, UM, WOULD YOU LIKE TO PLACE A MOTION FOR ME OR SOMEONE ELSE TO SERVE AS CHAIR FOR TODAY'S MEETING? I, I'LL HAVE MOTION, A MOTION MEETING.
SO I SIMPLY, YOU FULL NOTICE WILL CHAIR THE, UM, TODAY'S MEETING, PLEASE.
LET'S ALL STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, THE PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC OF WHICH STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD IN IN PRINCIPAL WITH LITURGIES AND JUSTICE.
ALL MAGGIE DO, I COULD DO A, A ROLL CALL OF MEMBERS, STAFF, AND GUESTS FOR TODAY'S MEETING, AND HOPEFULLY EVERYONE HAS SIGNED IN ON THE SIGN IN SHEET IS ON THE TABLE.
SO COMMITTEE MEMBERS, UH, THE MEETING MINUTES WERE DISTRIBUTED FOR REVIEW.
HAVE YOU ALL HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE MEETING MINUTES? THE PREVIOUSLY CIRCULATING, YOU KNOW, THE REVIEW, YOU WEREN'T AT THE MEETING, SO, SO WE'LL HAVE TO OKAY.
SO WAIT AND, UM, APPROVE MEETING MINUTES UNTIL YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW AND, UM, YEAH, WITH KELLY HERE, WE WOULDN'T HAVE A QUORUM ANYWAYS, SO YEAH.
UM, SO, UH, TED AND JOAN, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO ANY GENERAL DISCUSSION IF YOU'D LIKE TO, ANY GENERAL COMMENTS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE.
WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF AGENDA ITEMS TODAY, WHICH WE'LL, WE'LL ASK FOR, UH, DISCUSSION ON THOSE.
UM, SEPARATELY, ARE YOU HERE FOR GENERAL TO BE ON THE SECOND INSURED HONORS OF THE EIGHTH STREET AND
I'M HERE FOR OUR, THE LOCAL ROAD SAFETY CLINIC.
SO THERE IS NO PUBLIC, UH, WALL FOR HONOR.
SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO, UH, OLD BUSINESS.
THIS IS ITEM NUMBER 2024 DASH ZERO TWO.
THIS IS A REQUEST FOR INSTALLATION OF 19 FEET OF RED CURD IN FRONT OF THE RESIDENCE AT 2130 EAST 12TH STREET.
UM, CAN YOU REMIND ME WHY WE POSTPONE WE SAW HIM, WAS IT BECAUSE THE COMMITTEE, THE COMMUNITY MEMBER WASN'T HERE? YES.
AND BECAUSE, UM, WE WERE ASKED TO REVISIT THIS AND REDUCE THE, THE LENGTH OF RED CUR OKAY.
SO THAT INSTEAD OF REMOVING TWO ON STREET APARTMENT SPACES, IT WOULD ONLY AFFECT ONE.
SO STAFF REPORTS AND THE SEPARATE INFORM, RIGHT? YEAH.
AND THEN JUST KIND OF ADD MORE INFORMATION FOR A
SO CAN YOU PLEASE HAVE A STAFF REPORT ON SIDE? YEAH.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT 2130, UH, EAST 12TH, NOT THE HOUSE.
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DUNKING DONUTS.DUNKING DONUTS WOULD BE RIGHT HERE.
SO JUST NORTH OF DUNKING DONUTS.
UM, YEAH, SO THIS ITEM, UH, WAS BROUGHT, UH, TO THE TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMITTEE, UH, AT THE LAST MEETING.
UM, IT'S, UH, A RESIDENT'S CONCERN WITH VISIBILITY AT THE INTERSECTION, THE TREE.
UM, SO THERE WAS CONCERN WITH VISIBILITY AND, UH, THEY WERE REQUESTING SOME RED CURVE THERE TO, UM, IMPROVE VISIBILITY.
SO, SO THIS REQUEST, I, I ADD MORE STUFF ON THE REPORT, SO I'M JUST GONNA GO THROUGH THE REPORT.
UM, SO THE REQUEST WAS SUBMITTED VIA CCL FIX WEBSITE.
UM, AND THEN AS I MENTIONED, IT WAS DISCUSS, DISCUSS AT THE LAST, UH, TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MEETING, UH, IN MAY.
UM, AND I WAS AS A RESULT OF THE DISCUSSION, UM, UH, TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MEMBERS DIRECTED STAFF TO CHECK TRAFFIC COLLISION HISTORY AT THE INTERSECTION AND FOLLOW UP WITH THE RESIDENT AT 2130 EAST 12TH STREET.
UM, REGARDING A POSSIBLE REQUEST FOR THE BLUE PREPARED SHOULD NOTED THAT PRIOR TO THE TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MEETING IN MAY, THE RESIDENT AT 2130 EAST 12TH STREET MENTIONED THEY WERE INTERESTED IN REQUESTING A BLUE CURB IN FRONT OF THE RESIDENTS.
UM, HOWEVER, AS OF, UH, JUNE 26TH WITH, WHICH IS WHEN THE REPORT WAS DRAFTED, UH, OUR REQUESTS HAD NOT BEEN RECEIVED.
UM, IN ADDITION TO THE DIRECTION PROVIDED, THE TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMITTEE ASKED TO HAVE THE ORIGINAL REQUEST MODIFIED.
UH, THE ORIGINAL REQUEST WAS FOR INSTALLATION 38 FEET, WHICH WOULD'VE IMPACTED TWO, UM, PARKING SPACES ON STREET PARKING.
UH, NOW WITH THE MODIFICATION, THE REQUEST IS FOR 19 FEET, WHICH, UH, IMPACTS ONLY ONE SPACE, ONLY ONE ON STREET PARKING SPACE.
UM, SO PRIOR TO THE TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MEETING IN MAY, UH, STAFF PERFORMED A SITE EVALUATION AND DETERMINED THAT EAST 12TH STREET AND TWO LANE RESIDENTIAL ROADWAY WITH AVAILABLE PARKING ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET AND THE SPEED LIMIT OF 25 MILES PER HOUR.
ALSO, THERE IS RED CURB ON THE EAST 12TH STREET, UH, EAST OF GROVE STREET SIDE, WHICH IS WHY THE REQUEST IS ONLY FOR ONE SET OF THE INTERSECTION.
UM, THE, YEAH, SO THERE'S RED CURVE ALREADY HERE AND THERE'S A FILE IN THERE.
OH, PROBABLY YOU CAN SEE THAT.
SO, UM, IT IS ALSO WORTH MENTIONING THAT EAST 12TH STREET, WEST GROVE STREET IS PART OF A CLASS THREE BIKE ROUTE THAT CONTINUES TO THE NORTH ON PARADISE DRIVE AND SOUTH ON GROVE STREET.
AND A CLASS THREE BIKE ROUTE IS A STREET SHARED WITH BIKE WITH VEHICLES THAT IS DESIGNATED FOR BICYCLE TRAVEL WITH SIGNAGE.
SO YOU CAN SEE HERE, OH, SIGNAGE THERE.
SO YEAH, THERE'S UP TO NORTH AND THEN THE SOUTH, ALL THE
SO, UH, STAFF VISITED THE SITE OF SECOND TIME AFTER THE TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MEETING IN MAY.
UH, DID NOT SEE A LACK GOING AVAILABLE ON STREET PARKING AT THAT TIME.
UH, DURING THE SECOND SITE VISIT, STAFF CONTACTED THE RESIDENT AT 2130 EAST 12TH STREET AND PERSONALLY DELIVERED A BLUE CURB REQUEST FORM.
UH, FOLLOWING UP ON THE DIRECTION FROM THE TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMITTEE, UH, STAFF REQUESTED A TRAFFIC COLLISION HISTORY REPORT FOR THE INTERSECTION OF EAST 12TH STREET AND GROVE STREET.
THE REPORT SHOWS THAT THERE HAS ONLY BEEN ONE REPORTED COLLISION IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS.
THE COLLISION WAS CATEGORIZED AS A HIT AND RUN WITH NO INJURIES OR FATALITIES.
BASED ON THE EVALUATION OF EXISTING CONDITIONS, STAFF RECOMMENDS THE INSTALLATION OF 19 FEET OF RED CURVE, NO PARKING ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF EAST 12TH STREET, WEST OF GROVE STREET IN FRONT OF THE RESIDENCE AT 2130 EAST 12TH STREET, TO IMPROVE VISIBILITY FOR VEHICLES TURNING ONTO EAST 12TH STREET.
THIS WILL RESULT IN THE LOSS OF ONE ON STREET PARKING SPACE.
LET'S TAKE A BREAK FOR JUST ONE MOMENT ON THIS ITEM.
I'M ONE OF THE, UH, MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE WHO ARE ABSENT OF CHAIR.
SO I'M ACTING CHAIR FOR TODAY.
AND ARE YOU, UH, IF YOU, IF YOU CAN, THERE'S A SIGN IN SHEET ROOM.
AND, UH, JUST SO YOU KNOW TOO, THE MEETING IS BEING RECORDED, SO I HOPE THAT'S OKAY.
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A REQUESTER WHO SUBMITTED, WHO LIVES IN THE CORNER OF THE HOUSE.SO HE JUST MENTIONED THERE'S TWO PEOPLE WITH, UH, DISABILITY WHO LIVES.
SO YOU SAYING THAT, UM, THE TOP FLOOR, HIS, UM, MOTHER-IN-LAW, UHHUH, AND YOU IN THE WATER, AND I GOTTA WALK OVER THIS.
SO HE HAS TO WALK ALL AROUND BECAUSE HE GOES INTO, THAT'S HIS ENTRANCE DOOR RIGHT THERE, UHHUH.
SO HE IS ACTUALLY REQUESTING THREE.
SO HE'S SAYING HIS, SINCE HIS SON MADE THAT FRONT DOOR ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, HE'S WONDERING WHERE THAT RED CAR IS IN THE FRONT.
THAT WOULD BE LIKE HIS DISABILITY PARKING.
AND THEN THE OTHER TWO ON THE TOP LEFT WOULD BE FOR HIS MOTHER-IN-LAW.
AND THE OTHER PERSON WHO HAS A DISABILITY, MY SON MADE ME A BORROW ME HERE FOR WALK AND FIX ALL THIS, WHICH IS IN CITY TOO.
THAT TAKES ALL THIS EVERY YEAR.
IT'S A LOT OF TRASH OVER THERE.
WE TAKE CARE ALL THAT EVERY YEAR.
SO MY SON DO IT RIGHT NOW, WE FIX SEED AND MAKE IT A DOOR OVER HERE AND PUT THE, A GRASS, GRASS ALL OVER HERE.
WE PUT GRASS ALL ACROSS FOR THE TOP.
SO REQUEST, SO THEY HAD AN EMERGENCY AND THE AMBULANCES COULDN'T GET THROUGH BECAUSE OF THE WAY YEAH.
SO SHE HAD TO BASICALLY TRY AND WALK HERSELF, EVEN THOUGH SHE WAS NOT FEELING WELL IN HER COUSIN DIDN'T HELP, AND SHE HAD TO WALK ALL THE WAY DOWN WITHOUT ANY HELP.
AND THEN WHERE DID, BY THE ALL THAT, UH, JUST, UH, GO, UH, ASSUME NOBODY, MARTINEZ, MARTINEZ, MARTINEZ? YES.
UM, SO THE, THOSE REQUESTS FOR THE HANDICAP SPACES ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA TODAY, RIGHT? CORRECT.
UH, I AM SEEING MAYBE THE EMAIL.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE REQUEST, BUT THAT'S THE REQUEST FOR A, UH, THE RED OH, THE RED ZONE.
AND HE, HE'S HERE 'CAUSE HE LIVES THERE.
AND IT WOULD IMPACT LIKE RIGHT ON STREET PARKING DOWNTOWN.
SO, UM, YEAH, THAT'S KIND OF HOW HE'S COMMITTED TO THAT.
SO THE, UH,
SO WE LET, I DON'T HAVE, YEAH, OKAY.
YOU NEED CHECK TO SEE IF IT'S FULLY COMPLETED.
SO WHAT, I MEAN, WE WILL TAKE THIS, BUT I'LL HAVE TO MAKE A COPY JUST SO THAT HE HAS THE ORIGINAL.
IS IT, IT IS JUST MISSING A LITTLE BIT INFORMATION.
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FOR 45 YEARS.SO THEN HE WAS SAYING THAT THE VISIBILITY OF PEOPLE WHEN THEY'RE COMING TO MAKE A STOP THAT IT WAS ABOUT, BUT THEY HAVEN'T BEEN SURE.
SO THE, THE CITY HAS ONE ACCIDENT.
IS THAT THE, I HEARD THERE'S PER OF THE TRAFFIC COLLISION HISTORY REPORT, JUST ONE REPORT, NO NOISE AND NO, AND IT WAS A HIT AND RUN.
DO WE HAVE THE DATE ON THAT INCIDENT? DO WE KNOW? UH, IT'S NOT, I DON'T HAVE IT IN THE REPORT, BUT IT'S OKAY.
UM, SO WE HAVE A COUPLE OF OPTIONS.
ONE WOULD BE TO GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON THE, THE RED CURVE TODAY, OR I THINK, AND I'M, I'M A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE ABOUT THIS, THAT WE COULD, UM, WAIT UNTIL WE HAVE THE, THE SUBMISSION COMPLETED FOR THE HANDICAP 1, 2, 3, WHATEVER THE NUMBER OF SPACES IS, WE CAN WAIT FOR THE SUBMISSION OF THAT TO BE COMPLETED, HOPEFULLY BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING AND WHICH CASE WE COULD THEN PUSH THIS TO THE, UH, PROBABLY BE ON OUR NEXT AGENDA AUGUST MEETING.
THE THIRD OPTION WILL BE TO GO AHEAD AND, AND VOTE ON THIS, UM, ADD.
SO WE EITHER WAY OR WHETHER REPORT PERIOD FORWARD, UM, DISCUSSION.
DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ANY, ANYONE OR ANY COMMENTS ABOUT THE RED, THE RED CURVE REQUEST VERSUS THE HANDICAP REQUEST SPACES? NO DISCUSSION.
SO, UM, I'M THINKING WE SHOULD MAKE A, UH, MOTION TO, UH, TABLE ITEM 2024 FOR THE NEXT MEETING AGAIN, SO THAT WE CAN HAVE FULLER CONSIDERATION OF THE, UH, HOW IT WILL THIS MOTION WILL IMPEDE OR IN ANY WAY AFFECT THE, UH, BLUE CURVE MOTIONS SO THAT WE CAN, CAN CONSIDER THE IN ITS ENTIRETY.
ARE THEY, ARE THEY GONNA BE THEY'RE GONNA BE IN THE SAME AREA, IN THE SAME JUST AREA, BUT NOT ON THE SAME STREET.
RIGHT? IT'S AN L, RIGHT? YEAH.
UM, THE ONLY CONCERN THAT I CAN SEE HERE, UM, WE HAVE SECOND REGULATION FOR DISABLED PARKING, AND THIS ROAD IS VERY STEEP.
BASICALLY, WE CANNOT ACCOMMODATE ANY DISABLED PARKING, UH, ON, UH, LONG ROAD THAT THE ISSUES AND THE ONLY PARKING THAT HE HAS ON THIS FRONTAGE IS GOING TO BE JUST ONE, UM, JUST IS THE ONE THAT WE, UM, OKAY.
UM, BASICALLY KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE 19 FEET.
THEY BASICALLY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE JUST ONE IN FRONT HALF NOW.
UM, THE OPTION IS TO CONSIDER A DIFFERENT LOCATIONS, UM, LIKE I WOULD SAY BECAUSE GROVE STREET IS TOO STEEP AND NO, UH, EXCEEDED TWO PERCENTAGE, UH, REQUIRED BY THE, UH, THE ONLY WOULD IT ON THE, ON THE CORNER, JUST A QUESTION ON THE, ON THE CORNER WHERE THE WHITE TRUCK IS PARKED? YEAH.
BUT YOU, YOU HAVE CARS, UH, TURNING RIGHT? YOU HAVE A DISABLED PERSON WITH YOUR CHAIR? UH, I, I IDEALLY MY CAR.
THE WHITE TRUCK IS MY CAR IS WHAT I TALKING YEAH.
I GOTTA WALK ALL THE WAY DOWN.
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TO BE SURE THERE'S UNDERSTANDING AND IN SPANISH IT'S NOT THAT GOOD, UM, TO, UH, THAT THE INCLINE OF GROVE MAY MAYBE, UH, MIGHT PREVENT US FROM HAVING BLUE CURVE PARKING ON, ON GROVE.SO WE MIGHT NEED TO CONSIDER HAVING BLUE CURVE PARKING ON 12TH INSTEAD.
SO HAS TO DO WITH OUR REGULATIONS THOUGH.
AND TURNING THAT CURVE WHERE HIS TRUCK IS AT, THEY SAID IT'S A DANGER HAVING A DISABLED PERSON STANDING THERE.
THE ONLY OPTION WE HAVE IS ALL ACROSS FROM THE STREET.
WE NEED TO ENHANCE CROSSWALK, ENHANCE THE CROSSWALK WITH THE STRAT.
UM, AND AFTER WE NEED TO ASK, UH, EVEN, UH, NOTIFY THE CORRECT ADJACENT PROPERTY WHERE ON THE FRONT EDGE, UH, WE CANNOT PUT ANYTHING HERE BECAUSE WE HAVE OTHER RESIDENTS HERE AND LOOKS LIKE HERE THE VEHICLES ARE VERY, UH, HEAVY UTILIZED THE PARKING SPACES AND WE CAN AND RECOMMENDING, UH, YEAH, BUT HE MADE, IT'S VERY FAR FROM WHERE HE SIT.
IT'S NOT, I FOUND THAT CORNER, THAT FIRST CORNER ON THE OTHER SIDE ONE, BUT WAS THAT SHORTER FOR HIM? ONE NEEDS TO BE, WHICH, WHICH CORNER? THE, YOU HAVE 12, THEN YOU HAD HIM GO THE OTHER WAY.
THAT CORNER THAT'S HITTING THE OTHER SIDE OF THEIR HOUSE ON THE OTHER, THE OTHER SIDE SHOT THAT, SO THEY'RE THERE, RIGHT.
GOING AROUND THAT WAY SIDE, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO BLOCK HERE.
ISN'T THAT A RIGHT? NO, RIGHT THERE.
I THOUGHT IT WAS A RIGHT, RIGHT SIDE.
HAVE YOU GUYS THERE EVER BEEN A GUYS CALL IT TO BE LIABLE? UH, BECAUSE, UH, HE'S REQUIREMENTS, UH, BECAUSE HE SLEEP AND WITH A DA WHEELCHAIR, CORRECT? YEAH, YOU HAVE TO, EXACTLY.
AND ESPECIALLY FOR THE DON'T YEAH, EXACTLY.
SO WE, WE'LL, UM, I STILL, UM, MOTION ON THE TABLE.
UH, SO THAT WE CAN HAVE FURTHER CONSIDERATION OF THE OPPORTUNITIES TO BLUE CURVE, TO HAVE BLUE CURVE SOMEWHERE IN THIS VICINITY.
I DON'T WANNA LIMIT, UH, LIMIT THAT BY APPEARING THIS TODAY.
UM, AGAIN, WE COULD JUST DENY THIS.
UM, GIVEN THAT THERE IS NO SIGNIFICANT ACCIDENT HISTORY, UH, ANY DISCUSSION, DO YOU HAVE ANY FEELING ONE WAY OR THE OTHER ABOUT THAT? SPECIFICALLY REGARDING THE RED CURVE ISSUE? NO.
IF, IF YOU CAN'T SEE, YOU CAN'T SEE.
THERE'S A LOT OF PICTURES IN NATIONAL CITY LIKE THAT.
AND SOME, THERE'S PROBABLY BEEN NEAR MISSES.
THEY JUST SKETCH OUT, YOU KNOW, UM, YEAH, SCARY.
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SCARY.PROBABLY, UH, UH, MENTIONED THAT THIS IS A SHARED BIKE LANE THAT, UH, IT'S GOING TO BE A BIKE PATH.
AND, UH, THEY NO, DON'T HAVE ANY VISIBILITY CODE AND IMPAIR, YOU KNOW, UH, CORRECT.
AS YOU KNOW, UNDERSTAND CONDITIONS.
WE ARE HOPEFULLY, SO I KNOW IT'S PRETTY
SO HE'S ASKING, UM, IF THEY CAN'T DO IT, YOU KNOW THAT ON THE DOWN STREET, CAN THEY DO IT RIGHT WHERE THAT BLACK UH, TRUCK IS AT, OR THE QUARTER, THAT'S WHERE IT'S WHERE, SO WE'RE, SO YEAH, SO OUR PLAN IS THE MOTION IS, AND THERE'S NOTHING, THIS WILL BE THE SECOND TIME WE'VE TABLED THIS MOTION.
SO IS, IS THERE ANY PROHIBITION AGAINST TABLING IT A SECOND TIME FOR THE NEXT AGENDA THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF? OKAY, I'M AWARE OF.
SO, MOTION TO, UM, UH, DEFER ACTION ON ITEM NUMBER 2024, UH, DASH ZERO TWO, UH, TO ALLOW US MORE TIME TO CONSIDER THE HANDICAP, UH, UH, SPACE NEEDS OF THE, UH, RESIDENCE IN THAT, UH, BUILDING THAT'S ON THAT CORNER.
IS THERE ANY SECOND? I SECOND.
UM, SO SENATOR
WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE IN TOUCH WITH YOU ABOUT, UM, WHAT THE ULTIMATE RECOMMENDATION, UH, MIGHT BE FOR THAT, SO THAT YOU CAN BE HERE TO DISCUSS AT THE NEXT MEETING CONSIDERATION OF THIS ISSUE.
AND BEFORE WE MOVE TO THIS, THIS ISSUE, WE'VE HAD SOMEONE ELSE COME IN FROM THE
UH, AND, UH, THAT'S MY SECOND THING.
ARE YOU PLANNING TO GET SLEEP ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE? YOU WORK WITH A CITY PLANNER? ANY CITY PLANNERS? ENGINEER.
I WANNA KNOW WHO ENGINEERED THOSE, THOSE THINGS ON.
WHO WAS THAT? WE DID THAT, PUT THOSE THINGS ON HARON STREET
MOVING ON TO NEW BUSINESS FROM, UH, ITEM NUMBER ONE, UH, 2 0 8 2 4 DASH UH, ZERO THREE.
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IMPROVE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AT UNCONTROLLED CROSSWALKS AT THE INTERSECTION OF EAST EIGHTH STREET, UH, AT A AVENUE B AVENUE AND C AVENUE.SO THIS IS THE AREA WHERE THE PUBLIC MARKET, UH, OR MARKET ON EIGHT, UH, IS, UH, IN THAT VICINITY.
ALONG WAS BEN'S, UH, MARKET FROM THE OTHER, UH, ON OTHER SIDE, THIS CURRENT, UH, PERSPECTIVE.
SO, UH, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT, WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE, UH, ZACHARY UNDERNEATH ME.
JOAN, AND ARE YOU ALSO SPEAKING ON ITEM NUMBER ONE? NO, NOT MUTE.
AND, UH, TED, YOU'RE NOT SPEAKING SINCE YOU COMMENTS, AND I THINK WE HAVE A THREE MINUTE, AS USUAL, MY THEORY OF THIS FLOOR.
ARE YOU SAYING GO AHEAD AND SPEAK? YES, I'M, I'M SORRY.
UM, MR. GOHAN AND I HAVE KNOWN EACH OTHER FOR TO FIVE YEARS, AND YET WE'VE SEPARATELY SUBMITTED REQUESTS TO STUDY THIS AREA ON EIGHTH STREET BETWEEN A AVENUE AND C AVENUE BECAUSE OF, WE TALKED TO EACH OTHER LATER AND FOUND OUT THAT WE HAD VERY SIMILAR CONCERNS.
NOW, I WANNA START BY ADDRESSING WHAT I'VE SEEN IN THE STAFF REPORT, AND THEN I'M GONNA COME BACK TO THE GENERAL CONDITION OF THE AREA.
SO HAVING READ THE STAFF REPORT, I THINK I UNDERSTAND FAIRLY WELL WHAT STAFF IS SAYING IS THAT BECAUSE OF RECENT TRAFFIC CALMING CHANGES THAT WERE MADE IN THAT VERY AREA, THERE'S ONLY A CERTAIN NUMBER OF THINGS THAT REMAIN THAT COULD BE DONE TO FOCUS ON PEDESTRIAN SAFETY.
BUT I, I WANT THE STAFF TO LATER, YOU KNOW, CORRECT WHAT I'M SAYING IF I'M NOT GETTING IT RIGHT.
AND SO WHAT I'M SEEING YOUR REPORT SAY IS A CERTAIN TYPE OF SIGNAGE AND A CERTAIN TYPE OF
AND ALSO, I THINK, I HATE THAT TALKING ABOUT RETAINING THE LIMIT LINES TO THE CROP, MAYBE MORE VISIBLE.
SO I UNDERSTAND WHY THOSE ARE AMONG THE ONLY MEASUREMENTS THAT THEY'RE ALREADY PAID BECAUSE IT ALREADY HAS LIKE, CENTER REFUGE ISLANDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO IN THE MINUTE AND A HALF I HAVE LEFT, BUT I WANNA DO FOR THE COMMITTEE IS PAINT A PICTURE OF WHAT'S GOING ON THERE AND WHY MY CONCERNS EXIST.
SO WHEN MARK ON EIGHTH OPEN, WHICH AS YOU MAY KNOW, IS A FOOD HALL, AND NOW WE'VE GOT ANOTHER PLACE CALLED FRIENDS WITH FRIENDS LIKE ONE THROUGH SEVEN WEEKS.
AND THEN THERE'S SOME OTHER PLACES THAT ARE COMING IN, ACTUALLY A NEW INDIAN RESTAURANT OPEN RIGHT NEXT TO BEGIN.
AND SO WE'RE HAVING A FEW MORE PLACES COME IN THAT ARE GONNA ATTRACT WALKIN TRAFFIC.
AND SO YOU'RE HAVING A HIGHER PEDESTRIAN MIX.
AND ALSO BECAUSE THE PARKING GETS A LITTLE MORE CONGESTED IN THAT GENERAL AREA, THEN THAT MEANS YOU HAVE MORE PEDESTRIANS THAT ARE TRAVELING FROM THEIR CAR TO THEIR HOME OR FROM THEIR CAR TO WHEREVER THEY'RE HEADED.
AND THE OTHER THING THAT THE TRAFFIC CONGESTION FOR THE RETAIL DOES IS WE ALL KNOW AS DRIVERS THAT WHEN YOU'VE GOT SOMEBODY, LET'S SAY THAT PARKED IN AN ANGLE STAYS, AND THEN THEY'RE GETTING READY TO BACK OUT INTO TRAFFIC AND THEY'RE HAVING TO USE EXTRA CAUTION TO DO THAT.
SO I'M TRYING TO DO THAT SLOWLY.
AND THEN THERE'S PEOPLE BACKING UP BEHIND THEM, MAYBE WANTING THAT PARKING SPACE.
AND PEOPLE'S ATTENTION IS DRIVERS, THEIR ATTENTION IS DRIVERS COMES OFF OF, WHERE'S MY CAR? AND WHERE ARE THE PEDESTRIANS? AND STARTS FOCUSING ON HOW DO I NOT GET HIT BY ANOTHER CAR? I DON'T WANNA MAKE THIS GUY MAD.
AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF DISTRACTION.
AND SO IN CONCLUSION, THE PICTURE THAT I WANNA TAKE TO THE COMMITTEE IS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT WENT FROM HAVING FEW ACTIVE BUSINESSES THAT ARE RETAIL, SOME OLD WN SHOP STUFF TO SOMETHING THAT NOW HAS A LOT OF FOOD AND BEVERAGE AND A LOT OF ACTIVITY, AND ALL THAT IS CREATING A VERY DOWNTOWN TYPE OF CONGESTION WITH DISTRACTIONS.
AND SO COMBINED WITH ALL OF THAT, WE NEED TO DO WHAT WE CAN TO MAKE THE PEDESTRIANS AS NOTICEABLE AS POSSIBLE.
SO WOULD YOU LIKE TO YES, THANK YOU.
UH, SO I AM A RESIDENT OF PARK, UH, ON THE CORNER OF EIGHTH AND B.
AND SO NOT ONLY ARE THESE OTHER NEW ESTABLISHMENTS IN THAT EIGHTH STREET CORRIDOR, BUT WE ALSO HAVE THAT COMMERCIAL SPACE WHERE THE NEW, UH, WELL, THAT PO CASE, UH, THE PURE PEER, A COUPLE OTHER SHOPS ARE OPENING UP.
SO THAT'S GONNA BE MORE, UH, PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC,
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CAR TRAFFIC.UM, EARLY ON, I GUESS BACK IN NOVEMBER, SINCE THEN, I HAVE PETS.
I WALK MY DOGS, I WALK AROUND THE AREA, AND THE SAME, UH, THE SAME ISSUES I HAVE IS EVEN JUST CROSSING THE STREET AND NEARLY GETTING HIT BY CARS.
I HAVE TO CARRY MY DOG ACROSS THE STREET IN CASE THERE'S CARS COMING IN FRONT OF THAT.
I HAVE TO GIVE EYE CONTACT IN BEFORE I CROSS BECAUSE I CAN'T JUST, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE SAME DRIVING.
YOU HAVE, UH, CAUTIOUS DRIVERS THAT I HAVE TO BE CAUTIOUS, PEDESTRIAN AS WELL, UH, A DEFENSIVE PEDESTRIAN.
UM, I LOCK EYES, I MAKE SURE THEY SEE ME.
I DID A SITE VISIT WITH, UH, MR.
UM, FORTUNATELY HE HAS A SHINY VEST.
I DON'T ALWAYS HAVE THAT
WE HAVE FAMILIES, UH, STROLLERS, OTHER PET, PET OWNERS.
SURE THEY MIGHT BE BIGGER DOGS AND MAYBE BIGGER PEOPLE, TALLER PEOPLE.
BUT AT THAT, THERE'S THAT CONCERN.
IF WE WANT TO WELCOME FOLKS INTO OUR CITY, IF WE WANT OUR RESIDENTS TO ENJOY ALL THESE NEW ESTABLISHMENTS AND BE ABLE TO SURVIVE CROSSING THE STREET, PER SE, UM, I WOULD LOVE FOR, FOR Y'ALL TO, TO TAKE A LOOK AT AT THE OPTIONS.
UM, SO FAR, THE ONE OVER ON, LIKE, ON THE OTHER TWO BLOCKS AWAY ON PLAZA BOULEVARD, THAT'S ALSO BUSY STREET.
THERE'S THOSE SIGNALS AND FLASHING LIGHTS, IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY STUDIED THAT AND SEE IF THAT'S GONNA ACTUALLY WORK.
HERE WE LOOK AT WHERE THE SPEED SIGNS ARE.
UM, IT'S JUST THAT LACK OF VISION AND CONSIDERATION FOR PEDESTRIANS IS MY NUMBER ONE.
LIKE, LITERALLY IT'S SO UNNECESSARY.
YES, IT'S NARROW, BUT PEOPLE ARE JUST, I GET IT.
WE'RE ALL, IT'S, IT'S ON AND OFF THE FREEWAY COMING BACK INTO TOWN, BUT YOU KNOW, THERE HAS TO BE SOMETIMES THEY MM-HMM.
UM, YEAH, THE LOCATION THAT THEY, UH, JUST DESCRIBED IS, UH, A AND A, A AND B AND A AND C.
WE'RE NOT CONSIDERING NATIONAL C AND EIGHT AND EIGHT AND D BECAUSE THESE ALREADY, UH, IZED INTERSECTIONS.
AND, UM, UH, BASICALLY, UM, I WANNA SHARE WITH YOU, UH, WHAT THE D THE CITY DID, UH, UH, ALONG THE YEARS.
IF WE GO BACK HERE, UH, BACK TO, UM, 2000, UM, LET'S SAY 14TH.
THIS IS WHEN THE PROJECT WAS UNDER CONSTRUCTIONS.
UM, AND WE CAN GO BACK 2008 AS TO REMEMBER.
UM, THIS IS, WAS THE EXISTING CONDITION OVER THE ROAD.
WE USED TO HAVE, UM, TWO, UM, TWO TRAVELING FOR THE EASTBOUND, THE WESTBOUND, VERY NARROW, UM, A PEDESTRIAN, UH, LIGHTINGS LACKING OF LIGHTINGS.
UM, AND WHAT THE CITY DID IN THE, UM, WAS, UH, BASICALLY IN THAT, AT THAT TIME, THE SPEED LIMIT OF EAST STREET WAS 30 MILES PER HOUR.
UM, IN 2015, THE CITY, UH, THE, THE IMPROVEMENTS, AND LET'S SEE HOW IT'S THE CONDITION RIGHT NOW.
UH, THE CONDITION THAT IS RIGHT NOW IS, UH, WE INCREASED THE, UH, SIDEWALK, UH, SIDEWALK EXTENSION.
UM, WE HAVE, UH, UH, THE MIDDLE OF THE, UM, WE HAVE ONE TRAVEL LANE FOR EACH DIRECTION.
WE IMPLEMENT MORE PARKING FOR ANGLE PARKING.
UM, THERE IS A PARALLEL PARKING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD, UM, AT EACH INTERSECTION.
UM, WE HAVE, UH, UH, LEFT TURN POCKET FOR, UH, A VEHICLES TURNING ON THE, ON THE SIDE STREETS.
IN ADDITION, WE IN, UH, INCORPORATED ADDITIONAL LIGHTINGS, UH, ALONG THE CORRIDOR.
UM, AND ANOTHER IMPORTANT POINT, LIKE YOU CAN SEE HERE, WE ENHANCE THE CROSSWALKS.
UM, NOW YOU, UM, I DUNNO, UH, I CAN GO BACK AND SEE.
UH, BUT NOW YOU HAVE THIS, UH, CURB EXTENSION MAKING NARROW THE
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CROSSING TO THE EIGHTH STREET, UM, THAT, UH, UH, SAFER, UH, COMPARE HOW USED TO BE BEFORE.UM, UH, BASICALLY AFTER WE RECEIVED THE REQUEST, UM, WE, UH, THAT WAS, UH, BACK, UH, LATE LAST YEAR.
WE, UH, TABLED THIS REQUEST AFTER WE WERE HAVING THE A SPEED SURVEY COMPLETED.
AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE, UH, WE DID THE, UH, PEDESTRIAN COUNTS, UM, UM, VEHICLE COUNTS AS WELL, AND REPORT TO THE ACCIDENT HISTORY.
UM, YOU CAN SEE ATTACHED THE ACCIDENT HISTORY OF THE INTERSECTIONS, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THE SEA AVENUE BE NOT REPORTED ACCIDENT.
UM, AND THE A AND B ARE THE TWO, UH, INTERSECTION OF THAT HAS ACCIDENT AND ONLY, UH, A AND B HAS ONE PEDESTRIAN ACCIDENT.
UM, AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, USUALLY WE DO THE SUR UH, ACCIDENT SURVEY FOR, UH, AMOUNT OF FOUR YEARS.
THIS IS, UH, FOR SIX AND A HALF YEARS.
AND THERE WAS JUST, UH, ONE PEDESTRIAN, UM, ACCENT THAT INVOLVED A PEDESTRIAN, UM, UM, PEDESTRIAN.
UM, BESIDE, UM, WITH, UH, BASICALLY WE DID THE EVALUATION BASED ON THE, UM, FE UM, FEDERAL, UH, HIGH, LIKE I MENTIONED HERE ON THE, ON THE REPORT FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION.
UH, BASICALLY WE REVIEW THE GUIDANCE FOR THE IMPROVEMENT, SAFETY CONTROL, UH, PROCESSING LOCATIONS.
AND BASICALLY THIS GUIDE PROVIDES SOME COUNTERMEASURES THAT CAN BE IMPLEMENTED BASED ON THE KIND OF INTERSECTIONS.
UM, WE, UM, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE COUNTER MEASURES, MOST OF THE COUNTER MEASURE WAS REALLY IMPLEMENTED BASED ON THE, UM, SMART GROW PROJECT THAT WITHIN THINK WAS 15.
UH, THE ONE THAT, UH, CAN BE IMPLEMENTED, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S A LITTLE BIT LACKING, IS FOR SIGNAGE.
LIKE YOU CAN SEE HERE ON EACH CROSSWALK HERE YOU HAVE, UH, THIS IS, UH, UH, A AND EIGHT.
YOU HAVE EXTENSION OF BULB, UH, FOR PEDESTRIANS.
YOU HAVE LIGHTINGS, BUT THERE IS NO SIGNAGE.
UM, WHAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING HERE IS, UM, IS ATTACHED TO THE STRUCTURE.
AND, UH, THIS IS CALLED RRFP, THAT IS RECTANGULAR RABBIT FLASHING BAG BIGGER.
UM, AND IT'S ATTACHED THE REPORT, UM, THE LOCATIONS AND HOW THE BIG ONE IS GOING TO WORK.
BASICALLY, THIS IS, UH, UM, THIS IS THE KIND OF BENEFIT IS FROM, UM, FROM US DEPARTMENT TRANSPORTATION.
UM, SO THE KIND OF BENEFITS THAT PRODUCE THIS, UH, THIS KIND OF COUNTER MEASURE, UH, BASICALLY, OR A PUSH BUTTON, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, IS GOING TO, UH, UH, HAVE THE LIGHTS A AND IT EVERY TIME, UM, YOU KNOW, HAS BEEN USED.
AND BASICALLY WHAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING IS, UH, UM, TO HAVE, UH, UH, SIGNAGE IN ONE SIDE.
AND, UH, THIS, UH, UH, FLESHING BEACON ON THE OTHER SIDE.
THAT IS, UH, STANDARD PRACTICE TO HAVE ONE ONLY, ONLY ONE SIDE, THE VEGAN AND OTHER SIDE SIGNAGE.
UM, AND THIS IS FOR ALL THREE INTERSECTIONS.
UM, IF THE TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMITTEE IS GOING TO APPROVE THIS ITEM, WE'RE GOING TO APPLY FOR A H THREE GRANT, UH, THAT IS DUE IN TWO MONTHS TO GET FUNDING.
THIS IS, UM, UM, WE ESTIMATE IT'S GONNA BE, UH, 80,000 IMPROVEMENTS, UM, FOR INSTALLING THESE, UH, UH, FLASHLIGHTS.
AND BASICALLY WE ARE PLANNING TO GO ON H THREE GRANTS, UH, APPLY FOR A GRANT AND, UH, UH, BASICALLY, UH, GET KIND OF IMPROVEMENTS, UM,
AND WHEN IS
AND, UH, WE WILL NEED TO WAIT FOUR MONTHS FOR THE RESULTS.
DRIVER'S VISION IS NOT LOOKING AT THE SIDEWALK OR DRIVER'S VISION IS UP.
UM, LIKE I SAY, UM, FOUR MONTHS, WE ARE VERY POSITIVE THAT THIS KIND OF, UM, RECOMMENDATION, UM, WILL BE ACCEPTED AND WE'RE VERY POSITIVE THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET FUNDING FOR IMPLEMENTATION.
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QUESTION, IS THERE ANY, UH, CITY EFFORTS UNDERWAY TO INCLUDE PARKING, UH, IN THAT AREA? YEAH.UM, WE HAVE, WE ARE GOING TO, UM, WE'RE WORKING ON THE DOWNTOWN, A SPECIFIC PLAN THAT RECOMMENDS THE ANGLE PARKING.
AND, UH, IN THE NEXT FOUR, FIVE MONTHS, UH, AT LATEST WE ARE GOING TO ADD ANGLE PARKING IN DOWNTOWN THAT IS NOT ON, UH, A STREET, BUT IT'S ON THE SIDE, SIDE ROADS, LIKE, UH, UH, THE DOWNTOWN.
UH, WILL IT AFFECT A AND B? NO.
'CAUSE THEY ALREADY HAVE A, ALREADY HAS ANNUAL PARKING, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
UM, I NEED TO CHECK THE PLANS, BUT, UH, PRETTY SURE IS ON, UH, MANY COMPANY IS IS GOING BE ON, UH, UH, SIXTH STREET.
UH, SOME SEVEN ON FIVE ON SEA AVENUE IS GOING TO HAVE, UH, ANGLE PARKINGS.
UM, AND, UH, SO HOPEFULLY IT'S SOME SIDE STREET.
THERE ARE SOME ROADS THAT ALREADY HAVE ANGLE PARKING AND BASICALLY LIKE YOU WERE SEEING HERE ON C UH, HERE WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE WITH ANGLE PARK AGENCY.
UH, JUST A BIT FOR CONSISTENCY.
UH, SAME THING IS, UH, UH, GOING SOUTH ON SEVEN, WE ARE GOING TO ADD ANGLE PARKING.
WE TRY TO MAXIMIZE BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF WHICH HIGHWAYS, UH, CHOOSING WHICH LOCATION BASED ON THE, BUT IT'S MAYBE DESIGNED, WE JUST NEED TO HAVE A, UM, CONTRACTOR DOING THAT.
SO HOPEFULLY THAT WILL IMPROVE THE NUMBER OF SPACES.
OH, PARKING SPACES FOR PARKING.
HOW DOES THAT IMPROVE FROM AN ANGLE TO A STRAIGHT PARKING? HOW DOES THAT IMPROVE SPACE? ALL YOU'RE DOING IS ANGLING.
HOW DOES THAT IMPROVE THE SPACE? YES.
BECAUSE, UH, UM, THE REGULAR PARKING IS 20 FEET.
THE ANGLE PARKING IS 10, NINE FEET, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
YOU BASICALLY ON, UH, YOU ARE GOING DOUBLED.
UH, IN MOST CASE, THE ACT DEPENDS HOW THE ANGLE, BECAUSE MORE YOU ANGLED AND LESS SPACE YOU NEED, UH, CAN YEAH.
UH, WELL, YEAH, CAN BE DOUBLE, BUT DEPENDS OF THE, I DON'T, I DON'T RECALL.
I THINK THAT IS, UH, ALMOST DOUBLE QUESTION WILL, WON'T THAT JUST MOVE THE PROBLEM TO THOSE OTHER INTERSECTIONS? WILL WE BE CONSIDERING THE, UM, PAINTING, UH, UH, PAINTING THE LINES AND DOING THE OTHER SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS AT THOSE INTERSECTIONS SINCE WE'RE BASICALLY BEING SHIFTING THE PROBLEM IF PEOPLE ARE MORE PARKING THAN THOSE AREAS THAN I WAITING FOR PARKING SPACES.
AND YOU'RE NOT REALLY PAYING ATTENTION TO PEDESTRIANS.
ARE THERE ANY WALK, UH, PEDESTRIAN CROSSING IMPROVEMENTS PLANNED TO GET? UM, THERE, THERE ARE NOT PLANS.
UH, UH, FOR THIS IS SIDE ROADS.
A STREET IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE IT'S, UH, A CORRIDOR AND, UH, LIKE WE SEE ON THE, UH, FOLLOWING PLAN, UM, IS, UH, YOU KNOW, OKAY.
BUT THIS IS, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH, UH, BIG TRAFFIC ON SEVEN, UH, MOSTLY IT'S ON EIGHT ON PLAZA.
UM, AND, OR YOU CAN GO ON FORTH.
BUT, UH, THESE, THESE RULES, UH, OF COURSE WE GOING TO MONITORING HOW, UH, THE FUTURE CONDITIONS.
UH, ONE WE DO IMPLEMENT AND WE SEE IF THINGS WARRANTED TO, UH, UM, TO HAVE ANY ENHANCEMENT OR CROSSWALK.
AND ANY OTHER LIGHTING IMPROVEMENTS NEEDED OR RECOMMENDED FOR, UH, EIGHTH STREET OR THE SILOS THAT ARE LIGHTING, LIGHTING, UM, VISIBILITY AT NIGHT? WE, UM, WE THINK THAT THE LIGHTING THAT ARE HERE, UH, ARE YOU, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE ARE LIGHTINGS, UH, ON THE, ON THE SIDE OF THE, ON THE, ON THE SIDES AND ON THE MIDDLE OF THE ROADS.
I DUNNO HOW MANY LIGHTS YOU, UM, YOU CAN STILL ADD, BUT I OKAY.
USING THE BEACON WITH THE LIGHTINGS, THAT IS GOING TO HAVE THE, UH, OF COURSE THE MONITORING AFTER.
UH, THE CONDITION AFTER THE, YEAH.
HOW ABOUT THE TYPE OF LIGHTING? LIKE LED LIGHTING? YEAH.
IT'S LIKE TYPE OF LIGHTING CHANGE.
IT'S A BIG, YEAH, IT'S A, UM, DOES IT HAVE A LOT OF DIM LIGHTING? NO, IT'S, YEAH, IT SHOULD BE.
YOU TALKING ABOUT STREET LIGHTING? YES.
YOU TALKING ABOUT THE STREET LIGHTING? YEAH.
USUALLY A LOT OF DIM STREET LIGHTS.
WHAT, WHAT'S THE PURPOSE? I MEAN, IT LOOKS NICE, BUT THE PURPOSE IS TO SEE.
UH, I, YEAH, NO, UH, I DON'T RECALL WHICH KIND I, UH, IF, YEAH.
ZACH, A QUESTION FOR YOU WITH YOUR WALKING IS DISABILITY AT NIGHT, IS THE LIGHTING IN YOUR CONSIDERATION, IS THAT AN AN ISSUE? IS IT IT IS BRIGHT ENOUGH OR DOES IT MY OPINION, I DON'T THINK IT'S BRIGHT ENOUGH.
AND ALSO THE, THE DISTANCE BETWEEN EACH LIGHT.
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LIGHTING INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW, HOW IT USED TO BE, UH, OVER ON.BUT IT'S ALSO ENOUGH LIGHTING FOR ANOTHER PROBLEM IS PEOPLE BREAKING INTO CARS.
SO THERE'S ENOUGH LIGHTING FOR PEOPLE TO SEE CARS, BUT NOT ENOUGH FOR SAFETY TO WALK.
YOU MUST BEEN USING IT FOR THAT, UM,
SO STAFF RECOMMENDATION AT THIS POINT IS TO DO THE GRANT APPLICATION FOR THE ENHANCEMENTS.
IS THAT CORRECT? AND THAT'S SPECIFICALLY FOR THE, UM, THE, WHAT'S THE NAME OF THAT? THE, THE CODE LESSON BEACONS.
AND YEAH, SO, UH, WHATEVER WAS IS RECOMMENDED, UH, APPROVED DOCUMENT STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO CAN I ASK, I'M SORRY, CAN I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS? OF COURSE.
YOU'VE MADE IT CLEAR THAT YOU'RE GONNA TRY AND GET GRANT FOR THIS, AND THAT'S GRAY.
UM, YOU HAVE EVEN A ROUGH BALLPARK FIGURE.
I MEAN, VERY ROUGH FIGURE ON HOW MUCH MONEY YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
UH, CAME CLOSE TO 80, BETWEEN, UH, 50 TO 80,000 FOR THE TOTAL JOB.
SO WE TALKING ABOUT 50 TO 80,000.
SO IF THE GRANT FOR SOME REASON DOESN'T GET GRANTED YEAH, YEAH.
WE, WE WILL TABLE, WE WILL TABLE THE, WE AGREE THAT WE'RE GONNA TAKE A LOOK AT FINDING THE MONEY ANYWAY.
I, I, I WILL, I WILL, UH, TABLE, UH, PROVIDING THE UPDATES, UH, ON WHEN WE APPLY AND THE RESULTS WHEN WE GET THE RESULTS.
AND IF WE DON'T GET THE, UH, THE GRANT, UH, WE ARE VERY POSITIVE BECAUSE WE, BUT, UH, IF IN CASE OR NOT WE, YEAH.
OR WE NEED TO HAVE DIFFERENT KIND OF, UH, SOURCES, BUT WE'LL NEED TO GO TO THE, THE RECOMMENDATION GO TO FOR APPLYING FOR THE GRANT.
DOES THAT HAVE TO GO TO CITY COUNCIL? NO.
UM, LUCA, STAFF MEMBERS AND, AND COMMISSIONERS.
I'VE USED THE FLASHING BEACONS AT 18TH STREET, AT HOOVER, AT PARADISE CREEK EDUCATIONAL PARK.
AND THERE'S SOMETHING THAT SEEMS LACKING WHEN YOU'RE THE PEDESTRIAN AND YOU PUSH THE BUTTON, YOU DON'T REALLY KNOW IF THE FLASHERS ARE ON.
YOU DON'T GET YOUR OWN FEEDBACK, WHETHER IT'S THIS, LIKE YOU CAN COUNT ON, THE DRIVERS ARE SEEING THE FLASHER.
IT MAY BE FLASHING BECAUSE YOU'RE HERE LOOKING ACROSS, THAT SIGN IS OVER THERE OR, OR OVER HERE, AND YOU DON'T SEE A FLASH.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOTHING IN THE SIDE, IN THE STREET.
IN THAT CASE, I CASE IT'S SAFE THAT WE NOW CROSS.
SO I THINK YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THE DESIGN OF THOSE THINGS AND TO GIVE THAT FEEDBACK BACK TO, I NEED THE SOUND BOX, NEED THE SANDBOX.
MAYBE SOMETHING, SOMETHING MAYBE JUST SOUND OR BE TIME TO GO.
MAYBE JUST ANOTHER LITTLE LIGHT THAT'S ON THE, BUT SO BASIC FOR THE PEDESTRIAN TO SEE THAT, UH, IT'S FLASHING, WE ARE SAYING.
SOME FEEDBACK FOR THE PEDESTRIAN.
AND THE OTHER CONCERN I HAVE WITH, WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT THE PARALLEL PARKING ON THE OUTER STREETS, ON THE SMALLER STREETS, YOU NOTICED HIS PICTURE WHEN HE SHOWS THAT STREET WHERE
SO WE HAVE CONFLICTS BECAUSE THERE'S LESS TRAFFIC LANE FOR TWO, FOR TWO-WAY TRAFFIC.
THAT'S THE SAME THING AT ELON PARK ON THE OTHER SIDE.
AND YOU CAN SEE ALREADY IN THE, THAT STREET RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF A PHOTO AT THE TOP.
YOU KNOW, THEY'VE GOT A C STREET ANGLE PARKING THERE.
AND IT IS, AND YOU CAN SEE RIGHT WHERE IT SAYS C AVENUE, IF I'M DRIVING MY CAR THERE TO MISS THE PARKED CAR ON MY RIGHT, I'M STARTING TO TEND TO BE IN THE LEFT LANE COMING AT ME.
SO IT'S A VERY HAZARDOUS BASIC, A MIDDLE LANE, MIDDLE, MIDDLE LINE, UH, LANE, UH, LINE.
IT'S, IT IS A, IT IS A KNOWN HAZARD THEN TWO CARS APPROACHED.
UM, UM, SOMETHING WE WOULD CONSIDER THAT.
SO, UM, I'M THINKING OF A STAFF DISCUSSION.
ANY, ANY COMMENTS, THINGS THAT ARE, YOU WANNA BRING UP?
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NO, I THINK IT'S NEEDED.EIGHTH STREET IS, IT'S SO NARROW AND I, I, I'M JUST TURING MYSELF DRIVING DOWN EIGHTH STREET.
I'M MORE LOOKING FOR PEDESTRIANS AND PEOPLE UP HERE.
I'M NOT LOOKING AT THE CROSSWALKS.
I'M NOT EVEN, BECAUSE I, I, IF I HIT A CROSSWALK, IT'S ON THE ROAD, BUT I'M LOOKING UP HERE.
UM, WOULD THE GRANT, UH, HELP WITH MAYBE THE ALLEY LIGHTS GETTING THE CROSSWALK AS WELL? OR, UM, AS THE LIGHTINGS? YEAH.
UM, AND THE GRANT IS MORE ON THE PEDESTRIAN.
WE CAN, UH, CONSIDERING, UM, REVISIT THE LIGHTINGS, UM, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO.
UM, I NEED, I'M NOT SURE I NEED TO CHECK THAT.
UH, BUT LIGHTING IS A P UH, ISSUED FOR TRADITION AS WELL.
I, WE NEED TO TAKE THAT OF LIGHTING.
ARE YOU ASKING ABOUT AND LIGHTING? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THOSE LITTLE LIGHTS THAT ARE IN THE CROSSWALK? TALKING ABOUT, TALKING ABOUT ON THE, ON THE, THE LITTLE LIGHTS THAT ARE IN THE CROSSWALK.
SO ROOF FLASH IN THE, IN THE ACTUAL GOT IT.
UH, 1 0 1, ONCE WE, UH, LET'S, LET'S SEE THAT.
YEAH, I, UH, WE, WE HAVE, WE NEVER IMPLEMENT SOMETHING LIKE THAT AT THE CITY.
OF COURSE, I DON'T, SO WE HAVE TIMES I CANNOT SAY YES NOW 'CAUSE I CANNOT, UH, YOU CAN COME BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING AND REPORT THE, THE CONFIGURATION THAT IS POSSIBLE TO GO IN TO THE GRANT.
FOR FUNDING AT OUR NEXT MEETING.
I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS POSSIBLE OR POSSIBLE, UM, BUT THERE WAS NOTED THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF SPEED THROUGH THERE.
ARE YOU ABLE TO ALSO PUT LIGHTS AROUND THE, UH, THE SPEED LIMIT SIGNS? SO MAYBE THEY FLASH RED IF SOMEBODY'S SPEEDING THROUGH THERE, UM, ARE YOU ABLE TO POSSIBLY REPORT HOW MANY TIMES PEOPLE ARE SPEEDING? SO IT'S EASIER TO TRACK AND BE ABLE TO TELL? SO YOU CAN INCREASE POLICE PRESENCE IN CERTAIN AREAS ON RADAR KIND OF, BUT IF IT WAS IN THE ACTUAL SPEED LIMIT POSTING, YOU ARE SAFE.
WE HAVE, UH, UH, IF YOU CAN IMPLEMENT THE SPEED FEEDBACK, THE ONE, UH, SHOWING THE SPEED LIMITS, UM, ON, ON, UH, ON THIS, ON, ON ASIC, THAT'S YOUR THING.
OR, UH, EITHER THAT OR THE ACTUAL SIGNS THAT ARE POSTED TO HAVE LIGHTS AROUND 'EM.
AND IF SOMEBODY IS SPEEDING, LIKE IT FLASHES RED.
UM, FROM THE TRAFFIC SURVEY THAT YOU DID, DID A SPEED SURVEY, HOW MUCH SPEEDING WAS DETECTED? IT'S 25.
UH, IT'S THE SPEED LIMIT ON, UH, UH, CO DIFFERENT THAN IN PLA BOULEVARD THAT IS HIGHER.
AND YOU HAVE THE KIND OF SIGNAGE, UH, OF THE, BECAUSE IT'S AT THE SCHOOL ZONE HERE.
YOU HAVE THAT, THAT IS, UM, I DON'T SEE SPEAKING AS ONE OF THE VIOLATIONS.
UM, YOU HAVE DIFFERENT VISIBILITY HERE THAN A STREET, UH, UM, INCORPORATING THESE ON A STREET, UM, YOU KNOW, MORE THINGS YOU PUT AT AND MORE CONFUSING, UH, YOU GAVE TO THE DRIVER.
HAVING, WE THINK THAT THE BEACON, UH, I THINK INTERSECTION, UM, IS GOING TO ENHANCE THE, UH, THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSING WITH THE SAFETY.
UH, IF DOESN'T WORK, WE WILL, WE WILL OPEN TO SEE WHICH KIND OF OTHER, UH, THINGS WE DO WE CAN DO.
BUT RIGHT NOW I'M NOT, WE CANNOT RECOMMEND THIS BECAUSE WE, UH, WE CAN START WITH THE VISION FIRST AND EVALUATING, BECAUSE LEMME SAY THIS IS, UM, IT'S A DIFFERENT KIND OF, UH, ENHANCEMENT THAT IS NOT FOR, UH, UH, VIDEO COSTUME, BUT IT'S MORE FOR FEELING.
UM, AND WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUE RIGHT NOW HERE.
ONCE WE SEE THE, THE, THE, UM, IMPROVEMENTS WE CAN DO ANOTHER, UH, ASSESSMENT OF MEASURES TO CALL TRAFFIC IN THE
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN, UH, DISCUSS AFTER.
UM, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING DISCUSS ABOUT LRSP WITH THE NEW, UM, BASICALLY WHAT, UM, UM, BASIC GOING YOUR NEW ROLE POSITION.
AND THAT IS, UH, THIS KIND OF RECOMMENDATIONS OKAY.
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TO HAVE, UH, DO ADDITIONAL, UM, SURVEY.WELL, WE CAN DO CONSTRUCTION, WE CAN DO PRECONSTRUCTION COST CONSTRUCTION.
I SAY, UM, NOT EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE THEN FUNDED.
IT'S HARD TO, AND THIS IS VERY EXPENSIVE.
NO, WE TALKING ABOUT, UM, THIS IS 40,000 AND THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT PART OF THE NEW POLICE DEPARTMENT'S AREA.
RADAR TRACKING ISN'T THAT PART OF POLICE AREA? IF IT'S A RADAR TRACKING UNDER RADAR, I THINK IT'S POLICE.
BECAUSE FOR WHAT, UH, IF YOU DID A UNDER, YOU'RE UNDER RADAR SIGN OR YOU'RE UNDER RADAR, THAT'S POLICE DEPARTMENT.
BUT THIS ONE IS, UH, IT'S NOT POLICE.
JUST A QUESTION TOO I KNOW IS FROM READING, THERE'S STATE OF CALIFORNIA NOW HAS, UH, CAMERAS FOR SPEED MONITORING THAT ALLOW TICKETS TO BE GENERATED.
BUT IT IS A CITY OPT-IN, UH, TO THAT PROGRAM.
IS THAT ANY ON THE RADAR HERE AT ALL? NOW, IF I'M NOT SURE.
COULD BE THAT I KNOW THAT THEY'RE INSTALLING CAMERAS AT INTERSECTIONS.
BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT FULFILL, BUT I KNOW AS A CITY OF NATIONAL CITY, WE DO NOT GIVE OUT SECRET TICKETS BECAUSE THEY DO NOT GET PAID FOR THEM.
THEY'LL GET WARNINGS, THEY'LL GET PULLED OVER, BUT RARELY DO THEY PUT A TICKET.
SO FOR SPEED, WE'LL LOOK ALSO WE'LL ADD.
THEY DO, BUT THEY DO RARELY, RARELY.
'CAUSE THEY DON'T GET PAID FOR THEM.
IT'S LIKE A WASTE OF MANPOWER TO WE WE HAVE FOR SPEEDERS.
SO, UM, LIGHTING AND SPEEDING ARE SEPARATE ITEMS, UH, THAT, UH, WE'D LIKE, THAT I THINK DESERVE CONSIDERATION.
UM, IMMEDIATE, UH, RESOLUTION, HOWEVER OF THE, UH, THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSING AND TREATMENTS FOR SUBMISSION OF THE GRANT IN SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER IS THE, IS THE PRIORITY.
SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UM, DIRECT STAFF TO GO FORWARD WITH THE RECOMMENDED, UH, PADE, UH, CROSSWALK EQUIPMENTS, PEDESTRIAN EQUIPMENTS, UH, ON EIGHT TO BE FOLLOWED BY A STUDY OF SPEEDING AND LIGHTING AND IMPROVEMENTS THAT CAN FURTHER ENHANCE SAFETY ON THE EIGHTH STREET CORRIDOR IN THE, IN THE SUBJECT AREA.
IS THAT MAKES, WELL, IF YOU ARE LOOKING AT PUTTING THE LIGHTS ON THE CROSSWALK, THAT HAS TO BE LOOKED AT BEFORE THEY ASK FOR THE GRANT.
'CAUSE THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE IMPLEMENTED FOR THE MONIES FOR THAT INTO THE GRANTS.
YEAH, THE GRANTS YOU GIVE THE SOME, UH, UH, KIND OF, UH, BUDGET FOR, RIGHT.
THE KIND OF THAT YOU'RE NEED, UH, THAT IS, BUT THAT IS FOR THE CROSSWALK.
BUT SLIDING IS, UH, I NEED TO YEAH, WE NEED TO EVALUATE IT.
SO COME BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION ON JUST A REPORT ON POSSIBLE SCREENING, CALLING TRAFFIC, CALLING AND LIGHTING FOR OUR, OUR NEXT MEETING.
COMMEND ANY IDEAS THAT WE MIGHT HAVE FOR THAT BEFORE WE SUBMIT THE GREEN? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE MEAN? YES.
BECAUSE IF YOU'RE GONNA ADD LIGHTS TO WHAT HE'S ALREADY PLANNED OUT TO DO, AND THAT'S LIKE AN ADD-ON, YOU'RE GONNA NEED MORE MONEY IN THE GRANT.
WE HAVE SOME, UH, UH, FLEXIBILITY WHEN YOU, UH, WE ALWAYS TRY TO, UH, GIVE A HIGHER DOLLAR AMOUNT.
YOU HAVE SOME MONEY LEFT
THAT'S WHY WE TRY TO HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY.
AND OF COURSE YOU CAN DO THE, WHEN YOU HAVE THAT KIND OF FUNDING, YOU, YOU CAN DO OTHER LITTLE THINGS IN THE CROSSWALK AS WELL.
SO, UH, THEN THE MOTION WOULD BE TO DIRECT STAFF TO GO FORWARD WITH THE RECOMMENDED, UH, IMPROVEMENTS, PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS IN THE CROSSWALK AREAS TO REPORT.
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REPORT BACK AT OUR NEXT MEETING ON ANY OPTIONS THAT THEY HAVE IDENTIFIED FOR TRAFFIC CALLING AND IMPROVED LIGHTING TO GO ALONG WITH, UH, THE, UH, ALREADY RECOMMENDING IMPROVEMENTS FOR SUBMISSION AND A GRANT APPLICATION TO OCCUR SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER 23.IS THERE, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? ANY SECOND? I SECOND.
SO WE'LL HAVE A REPORT AT THE NEXT MEETING ON ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATIONS FOR LIGHTING AND COMMON OF THE FABRIC.
BUT, SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE FOR SURE DIRECTING STAFF TO GO FORWARD WITH THE, UH, PEDESTRIAN, THE MENTS.
YOU GUYS HAVE MEETING THOSE, BUT THERE'S INITIAL COPIES OF THE, OKAY.
ITEM NUMBER TWO, UH, 2024, UH, DASH ZERO FOUR.
THIS IS ADOPTING THE LOCAL ROAD SAFETY FIRM, LRSP, WHICH ASSESSES AND IDENTIFIES FOR REGIONS AND SAFETY NEEDS TO IMPROVE LOCAL ROAD SAFETY WITHIN THE, WITHIN THE CITY.
I MEAN,
PROBABLY HAS THE BEST I CAN SAY IT TOO.
I BROUGHT SOME PHOTOS THAT I'D LIKE TO PASS THE COMMISSIONER.
AND I KNOW AT THE, AT THE COUNCIL MEETINGS, WE CAN'T LIKE PUT A FLASH DRIVE IN AND HAVE 'EM SHOWN ON THE SCREEN, SO I BROUGHT IT A PAPER VERSION.
BUT JUST, YOU KNOW, WHEN I FIRST SAW THE REPORT FROM STAFF, IT WAS KIND OF GLARING THAT THE DATA WAS SO OLD THAT ALL THE TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS WERE UP TO 2017.
AND THAT MEANT, UH, DIDN'T HAVE THE EXPERIENCE OF THE PANDEMIC AND NEW TRAFFIC PATTERNS AND FASTER DRIVING THAT WE SEE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND ON THE FREEWAYS TODAY.
THAT WAS SUPER WORRISOME FOR ME.
AND I REALIZED THAT THIS REPORT HAD BEEN PUT AWAY FOR A WHILE AND THEN BROUGHT BACK OUT.
AND SO I'M STARTING TO THINK ABOUT WHY IS THAT, WHY, WHY ARE THEY TRYING TO USE A REPORT THAT AS THIS OLD, UM, AND THAT IS PURPOSELY TO GO FOR GRANTS TO DO PROJECTS AND, AND PROCEED TO MAKE OUR CITY SAFER, WE HOPE.
UM, AND THEN I NOTICED THAT CHIN RYAN, UH, KIMLEY HORNE, ANOTHER CONSULTANT, ADDED A DOCUMENT AT THE VERY END OF THE REPORT, WHICH IS FROM APRIL, 2024.
SO THAT'S VERY HELPFUL THAT THEY LOOKED AT THE OLDER REPORT AND MADE SOME COMMENTS.
I'M GONNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THEM, BUT THERE'S TO, BEFORE I DO, THERE'S ONE MORE REPORT THAT HAS MORE UP-TO-DATE INFORMATION FOR YOU, AND I THINK YOU SHOULD ASK FOR IT.
AND THAT WAS CALLED THE THE ACT.
THE ACT, THE LETTERS ARE CPSM, AND THAT'S A REPORT FROM THE CENTER FOR PUBLIC SAFETY MANAGEMENT.
AND THE CITY HIRED THAT CONSULTING GROUP, CPSM TO WRITE A REPORT ABOUT THEIR POLICE OPERATIONS AND THEIR FIREFIGHTING OPERATIONS.
AND IN THE POLICE OPERATIONS, THEY CITE ACCIDENTS FROM 2020.
SO IT'S GOT DATA THAT'S NEWER THAN THE REPORT THAT STAFF'S GIVING YOU TODAY FROM CHIN RYAN.
SO I THINK THAT SHOULD BE INCORPORATED.
AND THE THING YOU WANNA LOOK FOR, OF COURSE IS, ARE THE ACCIDENTS STILL OCCURRING AT FIVE NUMBERS ON THOSE SAME STREETS? LIKE IS, AND WE ALL KNOW THE REPORT CALLED OUT HIGHLAND EUCLID PLAZA, A NATIONAL CITY, BOULEVARD STATE AND 16, YOU KNOW, AND SO THE DATA'S GONNA BE SIMILAR.
AND THE CPSM, IF YOU HAVE TIME TO READ IT, THEY MADE A VERY IMPORTANT RECOMMENDATION THAT HAS NOT YET BEEN TAKEN UP BY THE CITY COUNCIL.
AND THAT IS TO INCREASE TRAFFIC PATROLS TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF MOTORCYCLE OFFICERS THAT ARE ON THE STREET PATROLLING OUR STREETS TO BRING THE SPEEDS DOWN.
AND, AND THE SECOND THING THAT I SEE IS TO ENCOURAGE STOPPING AT STOP SITES.
AND YOU ALL KNOW THAT THIS IS A HAZARD.
ZACHARY'S TALKING ABOUT IT, PEOPLE ARE DRIVING TOO FAST AND TOO RECKLESSLY.
UM, SO WE SEE THAT THE REPORTS CAN BE BETTER USING MAYBE SOME OF THE NEWER DATA AND, AND YET IT'S EXPENSIVE TO GET ANOTHER REPORT DONE.
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KNOW, BUT IT SHOULDN'T BE FIVE YEARS, SIX YEARS OLD, ALREADY SEVEN YEARS OLD.UM, THE, THE REPORT, AND I BROUGHT THE, THE BACKS VERY END OF YOUR REPORT FROM THE STAFF.
IT'S THE KINLEY HORN, APRIL, 2024.
THEY ASKED SOME, THEY MAKE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS.
THE ROLE OF THE TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMITTEE COULD BE EXPANDED TO PROVIDE MORE OVERSIGHT RESPONSIBILITY.
AND IT LOOKS LIKE YOU, YOU WILL HAVE NEW RESPONSIBILITIES AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
TO MAKE INFORMED RECOMMENDATIONS, IT'S ON THE FIRST PAGE OF PAGE 15.
AT THE VERY END, THE VERY END OF YOUR REPORT, THESE INFORMED RECOMMENDATIONS WILL EVENTUALLY GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND, AND START TRYING TO CORRECT.
IT'S LITERALLY AT THE VERY, VERY, VERY END OF THEIR REPORT.
IT'S LIKE THE BACK MOST PAGES.
AND IT STARTS WITH A PAGE THAT SAYS KIMLEY HORN, AND THEN IT MAKES SEVERAL OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS.
IT SAYS AT THE BOTTOM OF THAT PAGE 15, IT'S, UM, IT'S WAY BACK HERE,
REALLY? IT'S PAST THE MAPS AND EVERYTHING.
IT'S THE MOST UP TO DATE INFORMATION IN THAT REPORT THOUGH.
SO I JUST WANT YOU TO, TO LOOK THROUGH THERE.
YOU SHOULD BE DOING MORE, USE MORE.
THE RECOMMENDATION FROM KIMLEY HORN AT THE BOTTOM IS THAT YOU COULD INCLUDE AN INITIATIVE AND UPCOMING PLANNING EFFORTS TO PROVIDE OUTREACH AND EDUCATION.
NOW, WHEN THE NATIONAL CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT CITED THAT THEY DID OUTREACH IN THE SCHOOLS, I DON'T THINK THAT'S ENOUGH.
THAT DOESN'T, THAT DOESN'T TEACH THE DRIVERS TO SLOW THEIR CARS DOWN THAN THE DRIVERS IN THE SCHOOLS.
IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF ENFORCEMENT ON THE STREETS.
OUTREACH NEEDS TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE MASSAGED FOR ADULTS TOO.
SO THEY, THEY HAVE MANY RECOMMENDATIONS FROM KIMLEY HORN THAT ARE VERY GOOD FOR YOUR COMMITTEE.
YOU SHOULD CONDUCT REGULAR, UM, SPEED SURVEYS.
AND YOU, YOU DO SOME AT THE BOTTOM.
KIMLEY HORNO DOES THE CITY PERFORM REGULAR TRAFFIC CRASH MONITORING? AND IT SAYS ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF, OF PAGE 16, THE CITY COULD CONDUCT ANNUAL OR BIANNUAL SCREENING OF TRASH DATA.
SO YOU KEEP GETTING MORE AND MORE NEW DATA.
I THINK I HAD ONE OTHER THAT I NOTED.
COULD YOU, UH, WHAT KIND OF COORDINATION CAN YOU DO WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS OR ORGANIZATIONS? AND OF COURSE, IT'S REALLY GOOD.
IT SAYS THAT STAFF SHOULD PUT ALL THE DEPARTMENTS TOGETHER FOR QUARTERLY MEETINGS TO KEEP CONSISTENT CITYWIDE SAFETY PRIORITIES.
SO KIMLEY HORNE HAS PUT SOME REALLY SOLID RECOMMENDATIONS IN HERE, AND I HOPE THAT YOU ADOPT THEM ALL.
THE, THE, THE THING THAT I NOTICED AND WHY I BROUGHT PHOTOS IS BECAUSE I LIVE ON CLEVELAND AVENUE AND IT'S WEST OF I FIVE.
AND IT'S NOT MENTIONED AS A HIGH PRIORITY STREET, BUT IT IS A VERY FAST STREET, A VERY BUSY STREET.
AND I'M GONNA JUST START SOME PHOTOS RIGHT HERE WITH YOU TO SHOW YOU, AND I'LL DESCRIBE 'EM AS THEY COME OUT.
THE FIRST ONE IN, I'LL JUST SHOW YOU GUYS NEXT TIME IT SHOWS.
PARDON? IT'S, HE'S OVER THREE MINUTES.
CAN I TALK ABOUT THESE? DO YOU CARE? ARE YOU OKAY? I'M FINE.
I'LL, I'LL I'LL END WHEN I GET TO PHOTO SEVEN, THE FIRST ONE SHOWS UNLOADING.
PARDON? ARE YOU GUYS OKAY IF WE CONTINUE? YOU, YOU DECIDE, SAY YOU HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION.
USUALLY THERE IS A LIMITS TO, UH, ON THE PUBLIC, UH, UH, SPEECH, LIKE CITY COUNCIL, BUT CORRECT.
YOU CAN, UH, EXTEND THAT TIME IN CASE THERE'S, UH, YOU FEEL LIKE I MADE A MOTION THAT WE CONTINUE TO, UH, LISTEN TO THE FAVOR.
THE, THE MEDIAN IS USED ON OUR STREET FOR LOADING AND UNLOADING, AND YOU'LL SEE THAT PEOPLE WILL BE PASSING VERY CLOSE IN THE, IN THE LANE.
AND SOMETIMES SOMEBODY'S SLOW IN THE LANE AND SOMEBODY ELSE IS GONNA GO AROUND THEM IN THE MEDIAN.
SO IT, THAT'S ONE CONCERN ABOUT, SO THIS IS, WHY DON'T WE, I'M SORRY.
WHY DON'T WE CIRCULATE AMONG THE PEOPLE THAT ARE VOTING OR ON THE STAFF, AND THEN WE, WE CAN LOOK AT THAT LATER.
I'LL, I'LL BRING 'EM DOWN TO SHOW YOU GUYS.
THE, THE SECOND PHOTO IS, UM, NAVY BASED CONGESTION AT 19TH STREET.
SO WE'VE SEEN THAT CONGESTION REACH ALL THE WAY OUT TO I FIVE AND HARBOR DRIVE.
24TH STREET, DOWN 24TH STREET, DOWN TIDELANDS AVENUE.
AND THAT PHOTO SHOWS THREE LANES OF TRAFFIC.
THE ONE TRAFFIC LANE, THE MEDIAN
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BEING USED, AND THE SOUTH BEING SOUTH, SOUTH SOUTHBOUND LANE, BUT GOING NORTHBOUND IN THAT LANE.SO PEOPLE ARE RACING THREE IN THREE LANES.
THE NEXT PHOTO IS, SO THAT'S NAVY BASE CONGESTION.
THE NEXT ONE SHOWS A CAR, I MEAN, A TRUCK, A TRUCK, AND A CAR COLLISION ON OUR STREET WITHIN THE LAST YEAR.
IT'S NOT REPORTED IN THE DATA AND IT IS REPORTED.
WE, I THINK BECAUSE POLICE WERE THERE.
BUT A BIG PART OF THE PROBLEM HERE IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE A LOT YOU, YOU'RE NOT GONNA KNOW HOW MANY UNREPORTED ACCIDENTS THESE STREETS HAVE.
AND THAT ACCIDENT WAS ON THE BACK OF IT.
I'VE WRITTEN SOME OF THE ISSUES.
POLICE ON SITE WITH INJURIES, LI LITTLE OR NO TRAFFIC LAW ENFORCEMENT IN THE AREA, TWO PARKED CARS HIT BY THIS CAR, AND A SIGHTLINE PROBLEM WITH THE TRUCK PULLING OUT.
I WAS JUST GONNA SAY CLEVELAND AVENUE.
AGAIN, BASED ON, UH, EARLY MORNING CONGESTION, RIGHT THERE AT 19TH STREET.
AND FORESIGHT LINES, LACK OF LIGHTING, SAME ISSUES AS THEY ONLY ADD ADD 400 MORE CARS MOVING THROUGH THE AREA AT THE SAME TIME.
THIS ONE IS CLEVELAND AVENUE, NEAR PSI, AGAIN, THIS IS TRUCK AGAINST TRUCK POLICE ON SITE AFTER ACCIDENT.
FOUR SIGHT LINES, HIGH SPEEDS, DISTRACTED DRIVING, AND NO ENFORCEMENT.
AGAIN, BACK TO THAT CPSM REPORT, THE CITY NEEDS TO INCREASE POLICE.
SO LIKE YOU'RE CONSIDERING LIGHTING FOR A STREET, ALL THESE THINGS ARE, ARE NECESSARY.
NOT JUST THE, THE CROSSWALK, BUT THE LIGHTING AND THE, AND THE POLICE ENFORCEMENT, THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS.
AND THIS LAST ONE, REAL FAVORITE OF MINE, YOU'LL SEE HOW SHOCKING IT IS 'CAUSE THIS CAR WAS STABBED BY A FORKLIFT FORKLIFT'S COMING OUT OF A BUSINESS FORKS POINTED OUT INTO THE TRAFFIC LANE.
AND THIS CAR COMES BY AND JUST RIPS THE SIDE OF THE CAR OPEN.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND EXTRA TIME.
YOU GET SENT TO ME DARK FOR THE BATHROOM IN NARCOTIC, BUT I CARE ALREADY ENOUGH ABOUT THIS ITEM.
I START AMPLIFIED ON A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT TED SAID, BUT I KNOW YOU ALL HEARD IT.
BUT MR. REMINDER, IN TERMS OF THE DATA THAT ANY CONSULTANT OR ANY STAFF PERSON CAN GET ABOUT ACCIDENTS IS LIMITED.
UNFORTUNATELY, WHAT THE POLICE OFFICERS ARE, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS MAINTAIN.
AND SO, FIRST OF ALL, THE RULE THEY HAVE IS IF THERE'S NO INJURY, THEY DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO ATTEND AT ALL.
AND THE OTHER EXCEPTION TO THAT ONE IS IF IT IS A HIT AND RUN, THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO TRY TO DO SOMETHING WITH THAT, THAT IN OF ITSELF.
SO CONSEQUENTLY, YOU HAVE A TON OF NON-INJURY ACCIDENTS THAT ARE NOT, THEY'RE NOT REPORTED IN THE SENSE OF THE DATA.
I MEAN, THEY MAY BE AFFECTING WHETHER SOMEBODY CALLS NINE ONE ONE OR WHETHER THEY CALL THE NON EMERGENCY NUMBER OF THE STAFF.
THOSE AREN'T COMING INTO THESE REPORTS.
AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY ON THE COMMITTEE REALIZES THAT, THAT IF I WERE A CAR AND I'M HIT BY ANOTHER CAR, I MAY CALL IN AND THE DISPATCHER MAY SAY, EXCHANGE YOUR INFORMATION.
WELL, THAT IS NOT GONNA GET RIGHT GIVEN TO THESE CONSULTANTS.
THE SECOND PIECE THAT I WANT TO TOUCH ON IS, UM, THE CHEN RYAN REPORT TOWARD THE END OF THE CHEN RYAN REPORT.
YOU'VE GOT SEVERAL INTERSECTIONS THERE THAT THEY SPECIFICALLY ADDRESS.
AND I INCURRED THE COMMITTEE TO DO SOMETHING ALONG THE FOLLOWING LINES.
WHAT'S BEFORE YOU TODAY ON AGENDA IS ADOPTING THE REPORT.
BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO PUT ON THE AGENDA FOR A FUTURE MEETING, ASKING FOR STAFF TO TOUCH BASE WITH YOU ON WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THE FOLLOWING IS THE PLAZA IN HARON 30TH AND ISLAND DIVISIONING T AND 18 IN IOWA.
WHAT WAS THE SECOND ONE WAS? SO I'LL JUST READ, SAY PLAZA
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IN HARON.30TH AND HIGHLAND, WHICH IS TO SAY RIGHT IN CORRECT.
AND THEN ALSO, UM, 18TH IN HIGHLAND.
AND SO AN EXAMPLE OF CHANGES OF CIRCUMSTANCE SINCE SOME OF THAT DATA THAT'S HAD BEEN SAYING NOW THAT WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE ON THE ELECTRIC SCOOTERS AND BIKES CORRECT.
AND THINGS, THERE WAS A TWO DAY PERIOD, I REMEMBER ALE HONDA ROAD WAS STILL THERE.
THEY HAD TWO STUDENTS INJURED RIGHT IN FRONT OF SWEETWATER HIGH ON ELECTRIC SCOOTERS.
SO BASICALLY WE ALL KNOW IN CONCLUSION FROM MY PART, UM, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THERE'S A LOT MORE COLLISIONS THAN IT'S GONNA COME THROUGH THE STATE AND ALL HAVE TO APPLY ARE COMMENTS, BUT I THINK THAT THOSE THREE, THOSE THREE INTERSECTIONS MAY HAVE HAD SOME FAIRLY RECENT UPGRADES THAT IT WOULD PROBABLY BE GREAT TO HAVE STAFF LIST FOR YOU WHAT IS HAPPENING AT THOSE INTERSECTIONS.
AND THEN YOU CAN REFER TO THE
BECAUSE INSTEAD MAY HAVE MENTIONED THE CHIN RUN REPORT WAS ACTUALLY ISSUED FEBRUARY OF 2021.
SO THE CONDITIONS DESCRIBED IN THAT ARE MAY HAVE CHANGED SOMEWHAT IN TERMS OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
UM, I DUNNO YOU WERE ABLE TO REVIEW THE REPORTS.
UM, I, I PUT OUT A, A PRESENTATION, QUICK PRESENTATION, UH, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, WHAT YOU GOING TO DESCRIBE HERE OR, AND IN PARTICULAR FOR THE RECOMMENDATIONS WE ARE GOING TO THIS, UH, DISCUSS IS, UH, UM, WHAT IS THE LOCAL ROAD SAFETY PLANS? UH, HOW DOES THE, UH, LOCAL RULE SAFETY PLAN HAVE PROCEEDING? UH, THE LOCAL RULE SAFETY PLAN, IDENTIFY SEVEN HIGH COALITION CORRIDORS.
AND, UH, THE CHA UH, THE CHA SAFETY COMMITTEE WILL TAKE ON THE ROLE OF, UH, LOCAL ROAD SAFETY PLAN OVERSIGHT.
AND, UH, WE ARE GOING THE QUESTIONS, THIS WAS A PRESENTATION THAT, UH, STEVE SUPPOSED TO DO IT, BUT UNFORTUNATELY WAS, UH, NOT HERE TODAY.
UH, WHAT IS, UH, THE LOCAL SAFETY PLANS? UH, THE PLAN, PLEASE CURRENTLY USE, USE CRASHES IN THE CITY, PARTICULARLY CRASHES, RESULTING OF FATALITIES AND, UH, SEVERAL INJURIES.
UM, WE ARE TALKING INJURED FOR PEDESTRIANS, UH, UH, BICYCLISTS AND FOR VEHICLES, UH, PRODUCERS, A LIST OF TRAFFIC SAFETY, UH, IMPROVEMENTS, PROJECTS THAT THE CITY CAN IMPLEMENT AND, UH, UH, PRODUCE, UH, THE, THE DRIVEN, THIS DECISION IS DRIVEN BY CRASH DATA AND CONCERN FOR THE COMMUNITY.
UM, HOW DOES THE LOCAL ROAD SAFETY PLAN HELP? THE CITY WILL HELP THE CITY TO PRIORITIZE IMPROVEMENTS, UH, BASED ON THE IMPACT THAT, UH, UM, THAT WE HAVE SHOWS THAT THE CITY GOVERNMENT IS BEING PROACTIVE, UH, TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE SAFETY NEEDS.
AND, UH, UM, AND ANOTHER IMPORTANT, UH, UH, ONE THAT, UH, TED WAS MENTIONING IS, UH, MAKE THE CITY ELIGIBLE TO FUNDING, UH, FOR FUNDING FOR STATE AS FEDERAL, UH, GOVERNMENTS IN PARTICULAR, LIKE, UH, UH, I PUT ON THE SLIDE, THE H THREE PROJECTS.
AND THIS IS, UH, UM, THE APPROVAL OF THE LSP IMPORTANT, UH, FOR, UH, FOR, UH, FOR THE NEXT CYCLE OF THE, UH, OF FUNDING.
BECAUSE, UH, ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS IS, UH, TO, UH, HAVE THIS ADOPTION OF THE OKAY.
AND THE, AND HCPS, UH, UH, THE GRANT THAT WE ARE APPLYING FOR THE, UH, PREVIOUS ITEMS, THE EIGHTH STREET, A, B, AND C, UH, THE BEACONS.
BASICALLY, WE'RE GOING TO APPLY FOR THE HT UH, GRANTS IN ORDER TO GET THAT FUNDINGS FOR THAT.
AND ANOTHER IS FOR THE SIXTH STREET, UH, FOR ALL GRANT AS WELL.
UM, THIS IS, UH, UH, THE LOCAL, UH,
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ROADWAY SIX THAT IDENTIFIES SEVERAL HIGH POSITION CORRIDORS LIKE WE MENTIONED.THE PLAN WAS, UH, UH, COMPLETED IN 2 21.
UH, THE, UH, THE CRASH DATA WAS FOR FIVE YEARS WAS FROM, UH, 2000, UH, TWO, UH, 2 12, 2 17.
UM, I, I'M NOT SURE IF WE'RE GOING TO CATCH, UH, THE FIVE YEARS NOW BECAUSE WE WERE DOING COVID.
WE WERE GOING TO PROBABLY HAVE, UH, DIFFERENT DATA, OF COURSE DURING 2017 TO NOW WE HAVE THE MANY IMPROVEMENTS IN MANY INTERSECTIONS.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO MENTION WE NEED TO REDACT THIS EVERY FIVE YEARS.
WE, WE NEED TO HAVE, AND NEXT ONE WE GOT 16.
UM, AND BASICALLY WITH YOUR ROLE RECOMMENDATIONS AFTER, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON THESE PLANS IN THE FUTURE WHEN, UH, UH, WE ARE STARTING ADAPTING A NEW ONE, UH, BECAUSE WE NEED TO HAVE FEEDBACKS.
UM, AND, UH, UH, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A BETTER OUTREACH THAT WAS DONE ON THIS PREVIOUS PLAN.
IS, UH, NOW WE ARE CLEAR ON THE TABLE.
UM, AND WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS ABOUT THE ROLE PROJECT.
UM, THE LOCAL SAFETY PLAN, BASICALLY LIKE, UH, PROVIDES SEVEN COLLISION CORRIDORS.
ONE IS ON HIGHLAND, THE ONE IS ON EIGHTH STREET, UH, PLAZA BOULEVARD, UH, 1618 AND, UH, SWEETWATER ROAD.
UM, THE, UH, UM, I WANNA, UH, ADD I WAS, I WAS ADDING, UM, UM, SORRY.
ONE OF THESE, UH, UM, THIS IS BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, JUST, UH, UH, PROVIDE, UH, OVERVIEW OF SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE DID IN THE PAST.
AND PROJECTS ARE UNDER, UH, UPCOMING PROJECTS, UH, WHERE WE ARE TRY TO PRIORITIZE THE, UH, RECOMMENDATION OF THE LSP, WHERE WE HAVE HERE THE CLE CORRIDOR THAT WAS APPROVED, UH, FROM EIGHTH STREET.
WE'RE GOING TO HAND ENHANCE SOME MORE INTERSECTION.
WE CAN GO INTO THE DETAILS DURING THE PRE, UH, NEXT MEETING.
THIS IS JUST TO PROVIDE YOU OVERVIEW, SWEETWATER ROAD, WHERE WE HAND ENHANCE WITH THE, LIKE, UM, RECENTLY WITH THE BIKE LANES BOTH FURTHER WITH THE ROADS AND HAND ENHANCE THE, THE INTERSECTION AS WELL.
UH, WE HAVE SOME PROJECTS THAT ARE ON HIGHLAND TOO, AS WELL, WHERE WE ARE GOING TO, UH, IMPROVE THE, UH, THE VARIOUS INTERSECTION ALONG HIGHLAND.
UM, AND LIKE WE'RE SAY ON SETH STREET, UM, AS WELL.
UM, WE HAVE SOME ON 18 AND UH, ON 18 HERE.
THIS IS, UM, WE, UM, THIS IS, UM, JUST THAT WE'RE ACTING, UH, WORKING TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERN THAT, UH, HAS BEEN THE FILE ON THE OKAY.
LIKE, LIKE SHE WAS SAYING, THERE'S A LOT THAT DOESN'T GET RECORDED BECAUSE SITTING IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE, MY SON'S CAR HAS BEEN SIDE SWAPPED THREE TIMES.
HE WILL NOT PARK IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE THREE TIMES, JUST SITTING, PARKED LEGALLY IN THE STREET ON DIVISION.
THEY RACE DOWN DIVISION STREET 'CAUSE IT'S THE 8 0 5.
WE'VE HAD THREE ACCIDENTS IN 2023 ON DIVISION AND T THREE.
AND WE ALL COME OUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN THREE.
SO IT'S REALLY, IT'S, THEY NEED TO SLOW DOWN.
IT'S A WIDER STREET AND IT'S JUST AT NIGHTTIME IT'S SORT OF DEAD.
WE'RE AT THE END WHERE WE'RE NO ONE CHECKS ON DIVISION STREET 'CAUSE WE'RE ALL DOWN THERE AND THERE'S NOTHING HAPPENING.
WE, IT IS JUST HOLLOW DOWN THERE.
'CAUSE WE'RE AT THE VERY END OF NATIONAL CITY.
I THINK THAT VISION, THEY HAVE SOME, UH, UH, IMPROVEMENTS.
THEY HAVE ONE SCHOOL LIGHT THAT CAME UP THAT SAYS SPEED LIMIT, BUT THAT SCHOOL LIGHT'S NOT ON.
UH, WE CAN TALK LATER BECAUSE WE, WE WORKING ON THE, THIS CAN BE.
THIS IS WHAT THE REPORT IS RECOMMENDED.
THIS IS THE TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMITTEE WILL TAKE ON THE ROLE OF LRSP OVERSIGHT, BASICALLY TO MONITORING THE PROGRESS ON IMPLEMENTING, UH, THE PROJECTS, IDENTIFYING THE LRSP, INCLUDING OUR REPORT ON THE PROJECT STATUS, FINDING A COMPLETION MONITORING WITH THE CRASH DATA, INCLUDING CRASH RATES, CHANGES OVER TIME, UH, OR BEFORE AND AFTER ANALYSIS OR SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS IN IMPLEMENTATION SITE.
AND AFTER REPORTING THE KEY FINDINGS TO THE, UH, CITY COUNCIL AS WELL.
THIS IS, UM, UM, AND NOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, UM, LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AND ASK.
IS THERE A MECHANISM? SO WE'RE HEARING FROM COUNSELING, UH, FROM COMMISSION MEMBERS, WE'RE HEARING FROM STAFF, UH, FROM, UH, THE PUBLIC COMMUNITY MEMBERS ABOUT DIFFERENT AREAS THAT ARE NOT INCLUDED
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THAT PERHAPS WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT.SO YEAH, I KNOW THERE'S LIKE CLICK FIX YEAH.
IS THERE ANOTHER MECHANISM EXISTING TODAY WITHIN THE CITY FOR COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO COMMUNICATE AREAS THAT ARE OF PARTICULAR CONCERN FOR THE, THE SAFETY OF THEM AND THEIR NEIGHBORS? YEAH.
UH, UH, UH, CCL FIX, UH, THAT OKAY.
THAT IT IS THE ONLY MECHANISM THAT IS THE VERY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU USE THAT.
WE, UM, WE ROUTE IT'S BETTER TO HAVE ONE AND NOT TOO MANY BECAUSE AFTER IT CAN MAKE, UH, UH, THINGS A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING.
BUT, UM, WE USE THAT ALL THE TIME.
LIKE WE WERE SAY, UM, RICARDO, THE ADAM OF BEFORE, IT WAS BASED ON THAT, UH, ANONYMOUS, UM, CONCERN FOR THE INTERSECTION WAS ROUTED TO ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.
AND THEN WE TABLE THAT TO THE, UH, TRAFFIC SAFETY BECAUSE WE WAS AN EVALUATION.
THAT THAT'S THE ONLY, THAT'S THE ONLY ONE THAT WE HAVE.
OF COURSE, YOU CAN COME AT ENGINEERING COUNTER PROVIDED CONCERNS AND WE HAVE, UH, UH, CITRIX IS MORE, UH, CITRIX IS MORE DIRECT TO THE YEAH.
AND WHEN'S THE LAST TIME THERE WAS ANY KIND OF, UM, NOTIFICATION TO THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS ABOUT, UH, THE, UH, ABOUT CLICK FIX AND, AND ITS IMPORTANCE FOR REPORTING, THINGS LIKE THAT? HAS THERE BEEN ANY KIND OF OUTREACH THAT THEY THINK ON THE WEBSITE? YEAH.
UH, THINK THAT WEBSITE IT BE SHOULD BE BREAKFAST, BUT THERE'S NOTHING, YOU KNOW, THE BREAKFAST WHERE THEY HAVE ONCE A MONTH, EVERY THREE MONTHS, IT SHOULD BE IN THAT.
WE CAN DONE, WE CAN, UH, YEAH.
I THINK THAT IT'S CALLED THE COMMUNITY.
EVERY THREE MONTHS, LIKE THEY
UH, IF YOU GO ON THE, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M TALKING ABOUT ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.
WHEN YOU GO ENGINEER DEPARTMENT, WE HAVE, UH, THE INFORMATION FOR HOW TO GO SINGAPORE YEAH.
I THINK THAT SHOULD HAVE EVEN HERE ABOUT, I'M SORRY, KNOW ABOUT IT.
I WOULD'VE REPORTED ALL THOSE AND HAVE PICTURES.
IT'S VERY, YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY, IT'S VERY SIMPLE TO DO.
AND IS THERE, IS THERE ANY PLAN AT THIS POINT? I DIDN'T SEE IT, BUT I MIGHT HAVE MISSED IT.
ANY PLAN TO COMMUNICATE OUT TO THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS OF THIS? I THINK THIS IS A REALLY SIGNIFICANT CHANGE FOR THE TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMITTEE IF WE GO FORWARD WITH THIS RECOMMENDATION THAT WE ASSUME THAT ELLIS ARE YEAH, YOU THANK YOU.
WHICH, I MEAN, IT'S, I THINK WE SHOULD, WE HAVEN'T VOTED ON IT YET, BUT IF WE DO, I THINK IT'S, IS THERE ANY PLAN TO COMMUNICATE OUT TO COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT THERE'S NOW THIS NEW ROLE FOR THE, THE TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMITTEE? UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW, UH, HOW TO DO THAT AND SAY WE CAN, WE CAN TABLE THE OUTREACH.
FORSIGHT GENERAL PUT AN UPDATE AND ALL THE OTHER, UM, BIG S WITHIN THE, WITHIN THE CITY, THEY COMMUNICATE OUT TO COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
SO YEAH, NOT WE, UH, I, WE, UH, WE CAN TABLE THIS DURING THE FUTURE MEETING THAT LEAST WE HAVE THE TIME TO ABSORB THE INFORMATIONS.
UM, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, NOW YOU, YOU CAN ACTIVE ACT, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU'RE ACTIVE, UM, REVIEWING THIS KIND OF A PROJECT THAT WORK HERE.
AND WE CAN TAKE THAT AND THINK ABOUT THAT COMMUNICATION.
BUT RIGHT NOW THERE'S NOTHING.
THERE IS BEEN NO COMMUNITY OUTREACH ABOUT.
UM, THIS IS, UM, THIS ONE, THIS, WE'RE GOING TO DO THE, UH, OUTREACH COMMUNITY BECAUSE, UH, UM, UM, IN ORDER TO HAVE A NEW PLANS, WE ARE REQUIRED TO DO OUTREACH.
UM, WE CAN, UH, TALK ABOUT WHICH KINDA OUTREACH WE HAVE TO DO.
BUT WE, UM, FOR SURE WE'RE GOING TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT OR THAT KIND OF THINGS.
BUT WE, I CAN INFORM YOU WITH THE KIND OUTREACH.
AND ANOTHER ONE OF OUTREACH IS TRAFFIC SAFETY.
WE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE AN AGENDA THAT GOES OUT TO THE, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, IS POSTED.
THESE, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, AS SAID, SOME OF THE COMMUNITY, THEY CAME BECAUSE THEY, AND WE CAN HAVE OTHER HERE.
IT COULD HAVE BEEN AT THE FAIR.
WE, YOU KNOW, UH, BUT YEAH, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THE PLAN.
UH, THE KIND, THE KIND OUTREACH I CAN PROVIDE BETTER, UH, IN THE NEXT FEW MEETINGS WE CAN OUTREACH THAT.
WE WILL DO FOR THIS NEW, BECAUSE WE NEED TO UPDATE THIS IN THE, UH, WERE YOU LOOKING FOR LIKE EMAILS, POSTERS, BULLETIN WEBSITES? OH, FACEBOOK.
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I THOUGHT I, I HAVE A QUESTION.WHO, WHO ARE ALLOWED TO RETRIEVE THE REPORTS? LIKE IF I GO TO TALK TO THE POLICE CHIEF AND SAY, HEY, HEY, CAN WE HAVE A TRAFFIC REPORT? AM I ALLOWED TO DO THAT? UH, TRAFFIC A ACCIDENT REPORT? YES.
I'M NOT SURE, BUT I, I THINK COMMITTEE, WOULD THAT BE OKAY TO ASK? UM, I THINK THAT YOU, UM, THERE ARE OTHER SOME WEBSITE THAT YOU, THEY PROVIDE THE, UH, IT'S NOT UPDATED, IT'S NOT PAID AS THE OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT THEY, I CAN PROVIDE YOU INFORMATION PROBABLY THE NEXT MEETING, HOW YOU CAN CHECK THE ACCIDENT IN SOME LOCATIONS.
SEE WEBSITE THAT YOU CAN, YEAH.
UM, I WANTED TO ADDRESS WHAT YOU ASKED.
AND THEN ALSO THE PART ABOUT THE PUBLICITY, BECAUSE THEY DON'T FELL TOGETHER.
SO REALLY THE, WHEN WE'RE TALKING TO LIKE A DESIGN ISSUE, THE, THE PLACE FOR THE PUBLIC TO COME IS THIS MEETING, RIGHT? IS THESE MEETINGS AND PRIOR TO THE COVID, I THINK THAT WAS BETTER KNOWN.
AND I'M NOT GONNA GO ON A RAN ON WHY, BUT THAT'S THE PLACE, BECAUSE THE REALITY IS THAT C FIX IS ABOUT SENDING JOB TASKS TO SPECIFIC PEOPLE.
BUT THE THING IS, IF IT'S REALLY AN IDEA OR A DESIGN, THEN YOU HAVE THE KIND OF DIALOGUE THAT YOU HAVE IN THIS COMMITTEE.
AND SO THEN GETTING TO THE POINT ABOUT PUBLICIZING IT, I MEAN OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A WILLINGNESS, BUT I WANTED TO POINT OUT ALL OF THE COUNCIL PEOPLE NOW ARE WORKING ON HAVING NEWSLETTERS.
AND SOME ARE HAVING TOWN HALL.
THAT'S WHAT, AND THERE'S ALSO A CITY MANAGER NEWSLETTER THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT, BUT I'LL DEAL WITH THEM THAT LATER.
SO THERE'S, UH, YOU KNOW, AND THEN THE SOCIAL MEDIA COMPONENT.
NOW THAT WE'RE BACK FROM COVID, IT'S OVERDUE TO HAVE A RESTATEMENT OF LISTEN YOU WITH THIS COMMITTEE IS SO THAT IF YOU DO HAVE THE KIND OF CONCERNS LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE BROUGHT SHE EXACTLY.
I, I'M, I THINK A LOT OF THE PUBLIC, I'M JUST GONNA BELU OUT.
A LOT OF THE PUBLIC THINKS THAT CCL FIX IS CRAP AND I'M PART OF THAT PUBLIC.
THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR FAULT.
SO WHEN PEOPLE HAVE A CONCERN OF THIS MAGNITUDE REDESIGNING AN INTERSECTION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEN YEAH, THIS IS THE PLACE.
AND THAT'S THE MAIN THING PEOPLE DON'T KNOW.
IN CONCLUSION ON MY PART, THAT'S THE MAIN THING THIS COMMITTEE IS, IS HERE TO DO.
AND UNFORTUNATELY IT KIND OF GOT INTO THE DRUGS OF IT'S NOTHING BUT RED CURVE, BLUE CURVE.
WELL, THAT'S NOT WHAT IT USED TO BE.
AND THAT'S NOT WHAT IT WOULD BE.
SO YOU'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK AND IF PEOPLE CAN BRING THESE KINDS OF THINGS TO YOU, THEN THE STAFF DOES A FANTASTIC JOB ON WORKING 'EM UP AND THEN THEY GO TO THIS COMMITTEE AND IT'S AN IMPORTANT COMMITTEE FOR THAT REASON.
PUBLIC REQUESTS ACT OR THE PUBLIC REQUEST THROUGH THE CITY CLERK.
YOU CAN LOOK AT, UM, OH, YOU CAN ASK FOR THAT STUFF OR COME TO THE COMEDIC POLICE RELATIONS.
I'M NOT SURE, I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS POSSIBLE OR NOT, BUT IF THERE MIGHT BE A WAY TO POSSIBLY NOT JUST ASK FOR AN ACCIDENT REPORT BECAUSE AS IT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP BEFORE THE, THE POLICE ONLY OUT FOR CERTAIN THING, BUT MAYBE AN INSURANCE REPORT FOR HOW MANY CLAIMS HAVE BEEN IN CERTAIN AREAS.
BECAUSE IF THERE IS AN ACCIDENT, I'M SURE INSURANCES HAVE A YEAH, BECAUSE SOMETIMES THEY JUST EXCHANGING.
THAT'S THE END OF THE ACCIDENT.
SO IF THERE'S A WAY TO GET A NUMBER FROM INSURANCES, THAT MIGHT BE I NEVER HEARD ABOUT IT.
UH, THE DAY, USUALLY WE DO ACCIDENT HISTORY BECAUSE IT'S REPORTED BY THE, UH, POLICE, UH, EVEN USUALLY OUR REPORT
THAT'S HOW, YOU KNOW, EVEN WE, WE, UM, WE SEE THE, A CONDITION OF INTERSECTION.
WE NEVER, I NEVER HEARD ABOUT THE, YOU CAN ALWAYS CALL FARMERS, FARMERS' INSURANCE AND SAY, HOW MANY ACCIDENTS DID YOU HAVE CITY THIS YEAR? THERE? PROBABLY HOW MANY ISSU YOU HAVE? YOU NEED TO CONTACT ALL OF THEM A LOT.
BUT THERE MAY BE FROM THE STATE LEVEL, FROM THE COUNTER LEVEL, FROM DIFFERENT JURISDICTIONS, WELL MAYBE GET THREE REPORTS FROM THREE MAJOR ONES THERE.
THERE MAY BE, YOU KNOW, FEDERAL, YOU KNOW, WHO KNOWS.
THERE'S SO MANY DATABASES OUT THERE NOW THESE DAYS.
WHO'S GOT PROBABLY ONE THAT WE JUST DON'T KNOW ABOUT.
SOMETIMES IT'S RELIABLE AS WELL.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR DISCUSSION ITEMS? IT SEEMS US
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JUST THAT YOUR COMMITTEE IS AS IMPORTANT AS PLANNING COMMISSION.IT'S THAT IT'S THAT IMPORTANT FOR SAFES FUTURE.
I THINK IT'S, IF YOU LIVE HERE, YOU KNOW, I'M HERE.
UM, SO I BELIEVE WE HAD A MOTION TO MAKE, WHICH IS THAT WE, UM, GO WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TO ADOPT FOR OUR COMMISSION TO ADOPT THE LOCAL ROAD SAFETY PLAN.
UH, AND ITS ACTIONS, UH, THEY'RE IN WHICH, UH, AND THE PLAN CRITERIA, THE, THE CPS IN THAT ONE BEFORE.
NO, WE, I THINK WE JUST SAID THAT, THAT WE, UH, THE MOTION IS TO ADOPT THE LOCAL BOARD SAFETY PLAN RECOMMENDATIONS BY STAFF WITH THE, YEAH, NO, WITH YOUR NEW ROLE RESPONSIBILITIES.
AND THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR, UH, INPUT.
VERY MUCH APPRECIATE, UH, ONE MORE ITEM WITH THAT ON THE, YES.
UM, WE HAVE, UH, THE LETTER THAT WE, UH, BUT KELLY'S NOT HERE.
THE TRACK LETTER TO SEND TO THE, UM, CORRECT.
THAT WAS VARIABLE DRAFT DEPARTMENT.
SORRY, THAT WAS VARIABLE DRAFTED.
I DIDN'T CHANGE, UH, THE PROBLEM WAS I CHECKED TO THE CITY COUNCIL, BUT WE DISCUSSED IT WAS GOING TO INITIALLY SEND TO THE DEPARTMENT OF, UH, OKAY.
AND, UH, THAT WAS THE BUT WE HAD THE LETTER.
UM, IS THAT, THAT WASN'T IN YOUR PACKAGE VISIT? I, NO, NO.
I, THE, UM, I ASKED HER, WHO SENT ME THE, UH, PHOTOS.
I, UH, SHE NEVER ACCOUNT TWO TIMES.
I WAS HOPING THAT SHE WAS GOING TO BE MEETING.
BUT, UM, THIS DRAFT, UM, ONCE, UM, DRAFT, I, I, I NEED TO CHECK IF SHE CAN SIGN THE LETTER BECAUSE SHE'S THE PERSON THAT LEFT, UH, FROM THAT, UH, THAT CONCERN.
SO WAS THIS, YEAH, THIS IS ACTUALLY A FOLLOW UP FROM ONE OF OUR LAST MEETINGS.
UM, OH, THIS IS TOO, THE DIVISION STREET IS HER.
UM, NOW, UH, WE CAN TABLE FOR THE NEXT MEETING OR UH, WE CAN HAVE THE, UM, IF WE CAN TAKE ACTION BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING.
UM, NO, YOU TOLD ME NOT TO WRITE.
UM, IF YOU ARE, IF YOU'RE GOOD, WE, WE CAN HAVE YOU SIGN ONE COPY, UH, OKAY.
YOU CAN, UH, FIND, YOU CAN SIGN AND PULL YOUR NAME ON A, YOU KNOW, UM, HOW, HOW JUST SIGNATURE AND
YOU JUST FIND THROUGH YOUR NAME AS IBLE NAME THAT SHOULD BE SHOWN ON ONE COPY.
AND UH, UH, AND FOLLOW WITH KELLY? YES.
I'M NOT SURE THAT KELLY CAN SIGN BECAUSE, UH, UH, BECAUSE SHE'S, SHE'S IN CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
AS MUCH AS WE HAVE THREE COMMITTEE MEMBERS, UH, REVIEW THE LETTER, APPROVE THE LETTER, AND, UH, THE PROBLEM IS THERE'S NO AWARE OF THIS SITUATION.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANNA, YEAH.
SO WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF ISSUES ON DIVISION YES.
IS PART, YOU KNOW, PART OF IT IS
AND SO THIS IS THE LETTER, LIKE THE CITY OF ACT COURT.
TAKE A MINUTE TO THIS SO THAT WE CAN BETTER ADDRESS, UH, WHAT IS ON DIVISION STREET.
WHERE DOES SAN DIEGO START? IT'S UH, BETWEEN, UH, UH, NATIONAL CITY BOULEVARD AND HIGHLAND.
THE SOUTH SIDE IS UH, UH, NATIONAL, RIGHT? 'CAUSE MY HOUSE IS DIVISION WHITE HOUSE.
BUT FOR YOU, YOU, YOU ARE ON THE FARTHER END ON TIAGO CITY.
UM, I'M STILL THE LAST STREET IN NATIONAL CITY BECAUSE BEHIND ME IS BETA ALPHA AND THAT SAN DIEGO.
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OH, OH YEAH.SO WHAT, WHAT NOW SEEING IS CITY OF BASICALLY IS NOT IN THAT AREA, RIGHT? THERE'S THIS TRAFFIC ISSUE THERE.
THAT'S, WE WANNA USE, WE'D LIKE TO DO IT SAN DIEGO IN ORDER FOR THEM TO ACT, THEY TO LOOK, UM, LOOK AT THE CRITERIA FOR THEIR, THEIR SIDE OF THINGS.
SO THE COLLECTIVE MIGHT EVEN TAKE ACTION.
SO IF, IF YOU GUYS ARE IN AGREEMENT THAT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO REQUEST ACTION BY THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO TO WORK WITH US TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES.
THEY'RE ALREADY WORKING WITH US UNDER THAT, UNDER THAT BRIDGE.
WHATEVER THEY'RE GONNA DO UNDER THERE.
THEY'RE ALREADY WORKING WITH THE CITY, SO THEY KNOW, YOU KNOW.
I'M GONNA GO ON THAT AND SIGN LETTER.
IS THIS AGENDA ITEM, IS IT ON YOUR AGENDA FOR TODAY? I, UH, I WAS, UH, UM, YEAH, I, WHEN I SAW THE AGENDA TODAY, I SAID, OH MY GOSH, WE NEED A, UH, TABLE.
BUT THIS WAS MOSTLY FOR THE, UH, COMMITTEE MEMBER.
UH, WE HAD TO PUT AS A FUTURE, NO, I DON'T KNOW, LIKE, UH, RESIDENT.
SO I THINK WHAT YOU HAVE IS SOMETHING THAT IS LIKE, SO THE, BUT UH, LIKE, UH, I PUT THE DATE ON THERE ALSO.
SHOULD I JUST READ IT? UM, ANOTHER DATE UP AT THE TOP? RIGHT.
YOU KNOW WHY? GUESS GO AHEAD AND PUT THE DATE.
JUST BECAUSE WE WANNA, WE WANNA GET IT GOING, RIGHT? YEAH.
MAYBE, MAYBE WE COULD MAKE A SUGGESTION AS VETERANS OF MEETINGS.
IF YOU MAKE A MOTION TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA, WE'LL ACCEPT THAT.
AND THEN YOU CAN TAKE AN ACTION, BUT YOU'LL NEED TO MAKE A FORMAL MOTION TO PUT IT ON YOUR AGENDA.
'CAUSE IT'S NOT ON THERE TODAY.
HOW DO WE PUT THINGS ON AGENDA RIGHT NOW? I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADD TO TODAY'S AGENDA, THE ACTION ITEM ON THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO.
LETTER DRAFTED ON AS DRAFTED BASED ON OUR LAST MEETING.
UM, UH, AND I RECOMMENDED THAT ACTION BE FOR US TO REVIEW AND SIGN THE LETTER, UH, AS DRAFTED.
DOES ANYONE SECOND ADDING THAT AGENDA ITEM TO OUR MEETING FOR JULY 2ND? IN FAVOR? AYE.
WE'RE ADDING THE AGENDA ITEM FOR ACTION ON THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO.
NOW WE'RE GOING TO TAKE ACTION ON THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO LETTER AS PER OUR AGENDA ITEM.
UM, UH, AND, UH, FOR THIS, UH, FOR THAT, I HAVE ALREADY REVIEWED THE LETTER.
MY MOTION IS THAT WE SHOULD SIGN THE LETTER SO THAT IT CAN BE SENT TO THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO.
UM, IS THERE A SECOND FOR THAT MOTION? OKAY.
ALL IN FAVOR THAT WE SHOULD SIGN A LETTER AS DRAFTED.
SO I'VE ALREADY SIGNED A LETTER AS DRAFTED FOR YOU, FOR YOUR SIGNATURE.
AND AS THANK YOU,
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SO JUST LIKE, I, LIKE I DID, I DID SIGNATURE AND THEN I DID PRINT AND TITLE.I SIGNED OR RELEASE IS FOR ALL OF US.
UM, WELL, IT'S FINE, RIGHT? I THINK WE HAVE THREE OF US.
ANY, UH, UH, STAFF REPORTS BESIDES, BUT WE'VE ALREADY HEARD FOR TODAY.
ANY OTHER MEETING OF COMMENTS OTHER THAN WELCOME.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING US.
YOU HAVE ANY OTHER VERY INTERESTING.
I LIKE BEING PART OF THE CITY.
OKAY, SO, UH, WE, UH, I MOTION TO ADJOURN OUR MEETING, UH, FOR TODAY.
AND I SECOND MOVE ALL ON PAGE.
UM, I JUST WANNA MENTION A, YEAH.
UM, DID I FORGET WE'VE ADJOURNED? NO, YEAH.