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SO I CALL A MEETING AT[Public Art Committee on May 28, 2024.]
3:04 PM THE, UH, PUBLIC ARTS COMMITTEE.RYAN, CAN YOU, UH, PANCE? YES.
SO UNITED STATES RANK AND TO THE REPUBLIC, WHICH IT STANDS ON NATION UNDER VISIBLE
UM, NEXT WE HAVE, UH, NON AGENDA, PUBLIC COMMENTS.
UM, CALL, DO, ROLL CALL, UM, OR IT'S OUR WHOLE MEMBERSHIP.
UM, WE HAVE OUR MEMBERSHIP ROLE.
I DON'T SEE
WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL GO AROUND AND I'LL ASK, UM, FOR YOU TO SAY YOUR NAME AND THEN WE'LL WRITE IT DOWN AND THAT WILL BE CONSIDERED OUR ROLL CALL START, UH,
PEDRO? UH, MARGARET GOT SHOT AT THE CITY.
AND ARE YOU, UH, ARE YOU ATTENDING AS A A CITY STEP OR A NO, I'M JUST COMING IN TO FOR CLARITY AS OUR RESIDENT OR A GUEST OR, YES.
WHO CAN SAY THAT AS A RESIDENT? YES.
JOSE LOPEZ, RESEARCH AND SURVIVOR.
ANYONE ELSE? UH, UH, CITY STAFF.
AND MY NAME'S GEE MANAGER, UH, COMMUNITY SERVICES MANAGER.
I'M, WE HAVE, UH, GUEST FOR PUBLIC FILM GUEST.
ARE YOU REP, ARE YOU GUEST? I'M SPECTATOR.
AND, UH, I GUESS FOR THE RECORD, I'LL READ WHO'S ABSENT.
UH, BASED ON THIS, WE DON'T, WE HAVE A QUORUM WITH THREE MEMBERS.
WE HAVE MEMBERS, UH, KATRINA BUSH, UM, JACQUELINE NIK, AND BILL ES, UM,
UH, DO WE HAVE ANY NON PUBLIC THE COMMENTS? ARE YOU, I'M GONNA SPEAK ON ITEM, DON'T NUMBER ONE ABOUT THAT.
ALRIGHT, SO THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND, AND TAKE IT THEN.
NEXT, WE HAVE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA FOR, UH, CONSENT AGENDA, APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA FOR MAY 28TH.
TODAY'S AGENDA, MOVE TO APPROVE THE, UH, SHOULD WE ADD THAT IT'S AMENDED AGENDA PUT SECONDS.
UH, DOES THAT HAVE TO TAKE SEPARATELY FROM THE MINUTES OR IS THAT ITS OWN VOTE? UM, THEN IT, THERE WOULD BE A, THAT WOULD BE A FIRST AND SECOND, AND THEN IT WOULD BE SEPARATE FROM THE, UH, APPROVAL MINUTES.
UH, DOES THAT HAVE TO BE ROLL CALL OR ALL, OR JUST, NO.
ITEM NUMBER TWO IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FOR JANUARY 24TH, 2024.
UH, DID WE GET THE MINUTES? I WASN'T AWARE THAT NOW.
I'LL TABLE IT AND THEN I'LL SEND MINUTES.
SO I GUESS WE SHOULD MOVE TO HAVE 'EM AT THE NEXT MEETING.
LET, I'LL MAKE A MOTION ANY SECOND.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JOHNSON TO TABLE FOR THE NEXT MEETING, THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.
SO WE, THIS THE NATIONAL CITY LIBRARY MURAL INPUT.
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I CAN'T HEAR YOU.SO SOMETIMES I GIVE YOU, OH, IS THERE A STAFF REPORT? THERE'S NOT A SEX REPORT.
UM, YOU HAVE A TROUBLE HEARING SOMEBODY COME.
UH, NOT A SEX BOOK, BUT DANNY.
SO, UM, THIS IS A SEVERAL OPTIONS FROM EUROPE WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOLVED AT AN ACTUAL CITY COVERAGE LIBRARY.
UH, THE ARTIST, HER MICHELLE, SHE IS FROM, UM, CHULA VISTA.
SO SHE'S RIGHT AROUND OUR AREA.
SHE HAS OTHER MURALS, UM, I I BELIEVE HERE IN NATIONAL CITY.
AND AROUND, UM, SHE WAS RECOMMENDED TO US BY THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.
UM, AND THEN THESE WERE THE OPTIONS THAT SHE PRESENTED.
AND WE'D LIKE, IF YOU COULD RANK YOUR CHOICES SO THAT WE CAN PRESENT THOSE TO CITY COUNCIL.
SUBMIT TO THE FINAL SELECTIONS.
GENERAL, YOU GUYS HAD SQUEEZE THIS DOWN.
SO THESE, THESE ARE THE FOUR THAT SHE PRESENTED TO US AND THAT THE CITY MANAGER REVIEWED AND I REVIEWED.
AND THESE ARE THE ONES THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING TO YOU.
WE ALSO PRESENTED THIS TO OUR, UH,
BUT WE DO HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING IT.
THEN, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT, WE SHOULD BE HERE.
UM, WELL, THIS, THIS PROPOSAL HAD GONE TO THE COUNCIL AND IT HADN'T REALLY BEEN OKAY IN THE BOARD ON
THE EVERY BOARD TRUSTEES AND I UNDERSTOOD, NEEDED TO COME BY OUR MOTION.
SO MY QUESTION REALLY IS WHAT IS THE CORRECT PROCEDURE FOR THIS? SHOULD THIS HAVE COME FIRST TO YOU AND, AND THEN TO THE BOARD, THE LIBRARY BOARD? AND IS THIS, IS THIS, UH, IS THIS, UM, THE CORRECT WAY TO APPROACH IT WHERE IT'S THE CITY MANAGER WHO IS PRESENTING THE ARTIST TO THE LIBRARIAN TO DECIDE WHAT GOING TO THE LIBRARY? I'M, I'M JUST NOT CLEAR ABOUT THE WHOLE PROCEDURE FOR THIS, AND I I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO GET BETTER INFORMATION.
WHAT STAFF HAVE ANSWER OR DO WE NEED TO TUBE? SO, UM, WITH THE MURAL, I, I SUGGESTED THE MURAL TUBE.
OUR CITY MANAGER, HE RECOMMENDED THE ARTIST.
UM, AND THEN WHEN THE ARTIST RETURNED THE IMAGES, HE WANTED TO EXPEDITE THE, UM, THE ACTUAL INSTALLATION OF THE MURAL, UH, BECAUSE I THINK HE WANTED TO GET IT WITHIN THIS FISCAL YEAR.
AND SO HE RECOMMENDED WE JUST PRESENT IT TO CITY COUNCIL FIRST AND HAVE THEM MAKE THEIR SELECTIONS.
UM, AND THEN IF WE ONCE MADE A SELECTION, WE PRESENT IT TO THE BOARD AND TO PUBLIC COMMITTEE.
UM, THAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WAS MADE TO ME.
BUT THERE WAS NO CLARITY ON SPECIFICALLY WHAT, UM, STEPS WE NEED TO TAKE IF, IF WE NEED TO HAVE THE APPROVALS BECAUSE, UM, THE LIBRARY BOARD IS AN ADVISORY BOARD, AND SO THERE WASN'T NECESSARILY THAT WOULD BE NEEDED WHERE ARTS COMMITTEE, I, I
SO I THINK THAT WAS WHERE IT GOT A LITTLE MUDDY BECAUSE IT'S ADVISORY NOT NECESSARILY REQUIRED, REQUIRED.
UM, I'M, I'M FAIRLY NEW TO, TO THE PUBLIC ART COMMUNITY, BUT SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, IT SEEMS LIKE WE DON'T REALLY HAVE MUCH INPUT ON, ON ART THAT GOES UP.
WE JUST KIND OF GET TO CHOOSE BETWEEN A FEW CHOICES.
UM, IS THAT HOW IT ALWAYS IS? LIKE WE, 'CAUSE IT JUST KIND OF SEEMS LIKE WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A ANYTHING TO DO
WE, WE JUST GET A COUPLE CHOICES AND THEN WE GET TO CHOOSE ONE TYPE OF THING, BUT WE'RE NEVER REALLY INVOLVED IN THE ACTUAL ART, YOU KNOW? UM, IS THAT JUST, IS THAT COMMON OR? SO THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE, WELL, I'VE PRESENTATING TO THE PUBLIC ARTS COMMITTEE FOR AN INSTALLATION IN THE LIBRARY.
I'M NOT SURE HOW IN THE PAST IF THE COMMITTEE WOULD RECOMMEND ARTISTS OR IF, UM, THE WAY IT WORKS WITH THE ARTISTS.
YOU COME TO THE CITY AND THEN YOU PRESENT TO THE COMMITTEE.
I, I'M NOT POSITIVE EXACTLY WHAT
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THE STEPS THAT THEY TAKE ARE.AND IN REGARD TO, UM, ARTS, TYPICALLY A REASON TO SURVIVE DOES A LOT OF, UH, THE WORK IN NATIONAL CITY AS PART OF THE AGREEMENT.
SO I'M CURIOUS IF, UM, IN THE PAST IT'S HISTORICALLY UTILIZED ARTS VERSUS ANOTHER MURALIST.
UM, AND SO MAYBE IT HASN'T COME UP.
AND, AND THE OTHER COMMITTEES THAT I AM, I, I WORK AS THE STAFF LIAISON WITH, UM, SOME OF THE BOARD'S ROLES IS TO HELP US CREATE PROCESSES SUCH AS POLICIES AND PROCEDURES.
AND I THINK SOMETHING LIKE THIS MIGHT WARRANT, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A, UH, A REQUEST TO, TO RECOMMEND, UH, THAT WE IMPLEMENT A POLICY OR PROCEDURE FOR INSTALLING PUBLIC ART.
UM, WE CAN CERTAINLY GO BACK AND DO SOME MORE RESEARCH TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY POLICY PROCEDURES THAT WE MAY HAVE OVERLOOKED.
BUT I'VE DONE A LITTLE RESEARCH ON OTHER ITEMS THAT YOU COULD UTILIZE.
UH, YOU SAID, YOU SAID THAT, I MEAN, EVERY, WE ALL KNOW EVERYTHING USUALLY GOES THROUGH ARTS, BUT WHAT, WHAT IS THE AGREEMENT YOU SAID BECAUSE OF THE AGREEMENT? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? YEAH, SO, SO THE AGREEMENT, UH, BETWEEN ARTS AND THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY IS FOR THE LEASE OF THE PROPERTY ON, UH, 12TH AVENUE, RIGHT? YEAH.
AND IN LIEU OF PAYING, UH, PAYING MARKET RATE FOR RENT.
SO I THINK IT'S, UH, BY THE NATURE OF THAT, TYPICALLY WHEN THERE IS A REQUEST FOR ARTS, I THINK IT, IT TYPICALLY GOES TOWARDS GO, PEOPLE LEAN TOWARDS ARTS BECAUSE IT'S SO ACCESSIBLE.
BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THERE, IT IS A SOLE PROVIDER AND IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THAT'S THE ONLY OPTION THAT COULD BE EXPLORED.
THAT'S JUST KIND OF HISTORICALLY BEEN THE CASE THAT WE, AND LIKE, LIKE I WAS SAYING, WE DON'T USUALLY GET ANY INPUT.
WE JUST KIND OF GET WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE ALREADY DECIDED AND THEN WE GET TO CHOOSE ONE OF THE THINGS, WHICH IS FINE.
I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IT A LITTLE BETTER, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I THINK WHENEVER I LIKE IT, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF ARTISTS FROM NATIONAL CITY TOO THAT THAT COULD HAVE BEEN CONSIDERED, YOU KNOW, THAT COULD HAVE SUBMITTED STUFF AND DONE THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO THAT'S OBVIOUSLY, BUT SORRY, GO.
AND I THINK THAT THAT, THAT GOES TO SOME OTHER QUESTIONS, BUT, BUT IN TERMS OF, UH, MEMBER RILEY WOULD BE THE ONE THAT, THAT HAS BEEN PART OF THE BOARD THE LONGEST.
IT SORT OF SEEMS LIKE BECAUSE OF THE AGREEMENT, SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED DO COME FROM ARTS AND THEY YES.
AND, BUT THERE HAVE BEEN OTHER, FOR EXAMPLE, THE BOGARI BLACK GOT WAS BOARD INITIATED, RIGHT? IS THAT YEAH, BOARD INITIATED AND, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT, OR TO ENABLE ANYBODY WHO WANTED TO DONATE TO IT TO MAKE IT A TAX DEDUCTION, IT, IT WENT TO ARTS AND, AND THEY BECAME THE ADMINISTRATOR.
UM, I, I HAVE SOME OTHER THOUGHTS, UH, PARTLY OPTED BY OTHER ARTS AWARDS THAT, UH, I'VE EITHER READ ABOUT, UH, BEEN INVOLVED IN AND SO ON.
UM, FIRST I THINK IT WOULD DEFINITELY BE NICER IF THE CITY MANAGER ENGAGED.
UM, THE LIBRARY AS, AS I UNDERSTAND, MAY BE A REQUEST.
UM, YOU'RE ASKING A QUESTION POSSIBLY IN THE FORM OF A REQUEST.
UM, NOW I UNDERSTAND IT'S A NEW CITY MANAGER AND MONEY IS TIGHT AND THAT MIGHT HAVE DRIVEN THE CONSIDERATIONS.
GENERALLY SPEAKING, ONE IMPORTANT FUNCTION THAT A PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE CAN SERVE IS TO GET THE CITY MANAGER COVERED.
UM, PUBLIC ART CAN BE, AND EVERYBODY'S GOT AN OPINION ABOUT IT.
UM, AND IT IS OFTEN NICE IF THE HEAD BY THEY CAN SAY, I DON'T KNOW ANY ABOUT ART, BUT I'VE GOT THESE FOLKS WHO HAVE SOME BACKGROUND IN IT AND MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION.
SO I MEAN, THAT'S ONE CONSIDER CONSIDERATION.
I WOULD OFFER WE'RE, WE'RE NOT A
AND WHEN THEY GOT IT, EVERYBODY HATED IT.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S AN IMPERFECT SYSTEM AS ALL POLICY SYSTEMS ARE.
AND THAT, THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME.
TO, TO ME, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAVE IS IN TERMS OF LIKE SELECTION PROCESS, IF THIS COULD HAVE BEEN OPENED UP TO MORE ARTISTS, TO COMMISSIONER JOHNSON'S POINTS THAT THERE MIGHT BE OTHER ARTISTS IN THE AREA THAT MIGHT HAVE, AND I DON'T KNOW, IS, IS THIS A COLLECT
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IS ARTIST LOCAL? IS THE ARTIST? SO SHE'S FROM MUTUAL VISTA, SO SHE, SOUTH BAY, UM, I THINK THE NEW THING, SHE WAS RECOMMENDED TO US AND SHE HAD APPROACHED THE CITY MANAGER, UM, AND SHE WAS WILLING TO ESSENTIALLY DO THE MURAL FOR, FOR FREE AND, AND WE WOULD PAY FOR THE SUPPLY, ESSENTIALLY.SO I THINK THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY SPECIFICALLY A MURAL CAN BE UPWARD OF, YOU KNOW, 30, $40,000.
SHE'S WILLING TO DO IT FOR ABOUT EIGHT TO 10.
SO I THINK THAT'S, THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS, UM, WHY SHE WAS RECOMMENDED BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT SHE HAPPENS NATIONAL.
HOW MANY SQUARE FEET IS THE MURAL? SO IT'S, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY BEEN TO THE LIBRARY.
IF YOU GO TO THE CHILDREN'S AREA, UM, THE WALL WHERE THE COMPUTER BANK IS ON THAT BACK WALL IS WHERE THE MURAL WILL GO.
SO, UM, IT'S A, IT IS A FAIRLY LARGE SMELL, MAYBE ROUGHLY THE SIZE OF THIS WALL HERE.
I, I WOULD HAVE TO RECOMMEND IN THE FUTURE TO TAKE A MORE GRASSROOTS APPROACH, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? BECAUSE TO BE QUOTED, $30,000 FOR A MURAL SIZE IS NOT NORMAL.
UM, THERE'S PLENTY OF LOCAL NATIONAL CITY ARTISTS WHO ARE INCREDIBLY TALENTED, WHO WILL DO IT FOR LITERALLY A FRACTION OF THAT PRICE.
WELL, THAT'S NOT WHAT SHE'S CHARGING.
BUT THAT'S NOT EVEN AN INACCURATE QUOTE.
THAT'S NOT EVEN CLOSE ARTISTS CHARGE BY THE SQUARE FOOT.
THAT'S NOT, THAT'S DESMOND NOT 30.
I, I DO MURAL WORK ALL THE TIME, ALL OVER THE, ALL OVER THE COUNTY.
SO THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT EVEN CLOSE TO ACCURATE.
YOU KNOW, EVEN EIGHT TO 10 GRAND IS A LOT.
SO I WOULD JUST, I WOULD JUST HAVE TO SAY THAT YEAH.
YEAH, I THINK RYAN'S RIGHT ABOUT THAT.
AGAIN, I NEVER COMMISSIONED MY WIFE PROGRAM COMMISSION STUFF WITH
AND SO, AND THAT WOULD, I WOULD TRUST YEAH, RYAN WITH THAT.
UM, AND THERE'S PLENTY OF ARTISTS LOCALLY THAT WOULD DO IT FROM THE PASTA PAINT TOO, JUST TO HAVE A PIECE OF SOMETHING IN NATIONAL CITY WHERE THEY LOVE SORRY.
AND I MEAN, I THINK THIS IS THE IMPORTANT, I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT THE PROCESS HERE SORT OF SEEMS LIKE WE MIGHT BE MORE INTERESTED IN THE PROCESS FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS COMING FORWARD.
I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT NOW, BECAUSE THE AGENDA IS TO, TO GIVE DIRECTION ON THIS.
NO, BUT I, I, I THINK THIS IS A VERY, THESE ARE IMPORTANT QUESTIONS THAT WE'RE ASKING.
UH, UH, AND I, I'M HOPING MAYBE THIS GETS BACK IN, IN TERMS OF MAYBE AT SOME OTHER LEVEL, WE, WE TABLE WE, WE HAVE THAT PRESENTATION AND THEY HAVE THAT SOMETHING TO DO WITH WHAT THE PROCESS IS FOR THIS COMMITTEE AND, AND HOW WE, UH, HOW WE HAVE INPUT FROM THE BEGINNING.
UM, ONE OTHER THING, UH, DO WE KNOW THAT THE SUBSTANCE OF THESE CHOICES WOULD BE AGREEABLE OR IS THERE SOME UNDERLYING DISAGREEMENTS AND ACTUAL DISLIKE FOR ANY IS AESTHETICALLY NO ONE LIKED THE FIRST THREE.
WE WERE ASKED TO VOTE ON IT AND WE DECIDED NOT TO VOTE.
AND YOU SAID THAT THE FOURTH WAS THE MOST ACCEPTABLE, UM, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE WERE ASKED TO GIVE
UM, NOT IMPRESSED, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS CONTENT, IF IT SOMETHING OBJECTIONABLE KNOW IT'S NOT OBJECTIONABLE.
IT, IT WOULD BE NICE, IT WOULD BE IDEAL TO HAVE DIFFERENT IDEAS COME FORWARD THAT IT REFLECT NATIONAL CITY AND ART HISTORY.
I KNOW THAT'S NOT ALWAYS POSSIBLE, BUT IT, IT IS.
AND THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT THAT IT, THIS WOULD MERIT, THAT'S NOT THE ANSWER I WAS HOPING, I'M SORRY.
SAY WE LOVE IT AND THEN WE DO IT THIS TIME, AND MAYBE THE CITY MANAGER WOULD SO LET ASK YOU, YOU DID RANK 'EM, BUT IT WAS ALMOST LIKE, BECAUSE YOU, OH NO, YOU SAID, YOU SAID THERE WAS NO, WE DIDN'T WANNA, WE DID NOT WANNA RANK FOUR ONE CHOICE.
SO YOU JUST HAD ONE CHOICE BEING OPTION FOUR.
DO WE KNOW, I MEAN, IS THIS OUR, THE COUNCIL WOULD, THIS WOULD GO TO COUNCIL EITHER WITH NO RECOMMENDATION
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OR WITH A RECOMMENDATION? SO, UM, I WOULD, I WAS ASKED TO JUST HAVE, UM, BOTH THE LIBRARY BOARD AS WELL AS OUR COMMITTEE RANK FROM AN ORDER.AND THEN THE ONES THAT THE HIGHEST RANK, WE PRESENT THEM TO CITY COUNCIL ULTIMATE CHOICE WITH WHATEVER RECOMMENDATION YOU HAVE.
BUT THE CITY COUNCIL ALREADY RANKED IT THEMSELVES.
SO THEY, THEY DID NOT, WE PULLED IT AND THEN WE PRESENTED IT TO, THEY WANTED TO SEE IT PRESENTED TO THE COMMITTEE AND, UM, TO PROVIDE COURT THAT WE GET YOUR FEEDBACK ON.
THEY CAN MAKE THAT A BETTER DECISION.
AND WE'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH, WITH THE ACTUAL SQUARE FOOTAGE, WE'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH, I MEAN, WE CAN'T FIGURE OUT THIS.
SO WE WOULD SAY ROUGHLY, IT'S ROUGHLY THE SIZE OF THIS WALL.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT EXACTLY HOW MANY SMART FEET.
COUPLE QUESTION
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? BUT THIS IS HER CHARACTER, CHICHO FUZZY BLUE DUDE RIGHT HERE.
UM, AND WOULD IT EMBARRASS THE NEW CITY MANAGER HERE IF WE SAID WE SHOULD LOOK THIS OTHER WAY? I DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW.
I, I, OF COURSE ALWAYS GO BACK TO HIM AND LET HIM KNOW, YOU KNOW, THAT REQUESTED THAT WE DO AN ALTERNATIVE.
UM, SO NO, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD EMBARRASS HIM, UH, PUT HIM DI MEAN, I THINK THAT THERE, THERE'S NO CONTRACT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOTHING WITH THE ARTIST CURRENTLY, SO, YOU KNOW, WITH IT, IT DOES HAVE TO GO BACK TO COUNSELOR.
IT DOES HAVE TO COME BACK HERE.
AND WE DO, YOU KNOW, WE CAN JUST LET 'EM KNOW THAT WE'VE GONE A DIFFERENT DIRECTION.
UM, NO, I DON'T THINK THERE'S, THERE WOULD BE AN ISSUE WITH THAT.
I THINK IT WOULD BE MORE IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, BUDGETING THINGS.
UM, AND IS THE COUNCIL EXPECTING IT OR IS THIS SOMETHING THEY I'M NOT GONNA HEAR ABOUT? YEAH, WELL, SO ESSENTIALLY THEY, THEY'VE SEEN THE IMAGES AND UM, LIKE I SAID, THEY'VE RECOMMENDED, YOU KNOW, WE BRING THEM BACK FOR YOUR REVIEW.
SO WE, YOUR INPUT, UH, BUT THEY'RE NOT EXPECTING 'EM ON A SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEM FOR MEETING.
SO WE COULD, IF WE HAD TO PUSH IT BACK, WE COULD PRESENT IT AT A LATER.
YOU DID MENTION THAT THEY WERE TRYING TO DO IT IN THIS FISCAL YEAR.
IS THERE A REASON FOR THAT? DO WE KNOW? WELL, SO WE STARTED THIS PROCESS WAY BACK, UM, PROBABLY BEFORE OR FIVE MONTHS AGO.
SO IT'S BEEN, IT IS BEEN A, YOU KNOW, WE KIND OF ANTICIPATED THAT IT WOULD FALL WITHIN THIS FISCAL FISCAL YEAR.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE NEED TO BRING TO COUNCIL AND TO MEETINGS AND, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THAT STUFF.
SO, UM, IT JUST TOOK A LITTLE BIT LONGER SO THAT, THAT WAS WHY.
BUT I, I MEAN, I'M I THIS POINT, I IMAGINE IF IT DOES NEXUS CLEAR, THEN YOU COULD KIND OF NEXUS CLEAR IS PROBLEM MEAN? I I KIND OF AGREE WITH MARGARET.
I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY IT'S TOO LATE NOW.
YOU GUYS BEEN WORKING ON IT SINCE FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS, BUT IT PROBABLY WOULD'VE BEEN NICE TO MAYBE CONSULT THE LIBRARY AND SAY, HEY, WHAT KIND OF ART WOULD YOU GUYS WANNA SEE IN HERE? LIKE, SHE MENTIONED SOMETHING HISTORICAL, SOMETHING MORE RELEVANT TO NATIONAL CITIES, SOMETHING THAT SHOWS, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? UH, MAYBE IN THE FUTURE, I DON'T KNOW.
SO WE DID, DID THE ARTIST, SO I'M THE LIBRARY CITY LIBRARIAN, SO SHE DID PRESENT.
AND SO THE CITY MANAGER DID PRESENT, HE SHOWED ME ARTWORK SHE HAD DONE PREVIOUSLY, THE IMAGES.
I ASKED HER TO DO THINGS THAT REPRESENTED NATIONAL CITY LIBRARY CHILDREN SPECIFICALLY GOING INTO THE CHILDREN'S AREA.
SO WE WANTED TO BE BRIGHT AND COLORFUL AND LIVELY.
AND THERE ARE SOME, I MEAN, YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE SOME ELEMENTS THAT SHE HAS THE NATIONAL CITY, UM, BUILDING IN THE BACK ON TOP OF THE OPTION.
SO SHE DOES TRY TO INCORPORATE, YOU KNOW, NATIONAL CITY INTO IT, BUT YOU HAVE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THAT IT IS FOR CHILDREN.
AND SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN HAVING LIKE A, YOU KNOW, MURAL ADULT AREA OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
IS THERE, OTHER THAN OPTION THREE, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT HAS NATIONAL CITY? I DON'T SEE ANY, ANYTHING.
UM, I THINK THAT WAS THE MAIN ONE.
I, THE REST OF THEM, SHE REALLY FOCUSED ON DIVERSITY AND THE LIBRARY AND LIKE, MAKING THINGS.
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RIGHT.AND DO WE KNOW, I MEAN, DO WE KNOW IF THESE ARE PIECES THAT SHE'S DONE ELSEWHERE? DOES YOU DO SPECIFICALLY FOR NATIONAL CITY? SO SPECIFICALLY FOR US, SHE USES THAT CHARACTER, THE SAME CHARACTER IS LIKE HER SORT OF, UM, WHERE THE WILD THINGS ARE KIND OF YEAH.
WELL, UM, I GUESS FIRST OFF, FIRST OF ALL, I SHOULD SAY THAT I AM ALSO FAMILIAR WITH THE ARTISTS AND I ACTUALLY REALLY LIKE THE ART.
BUT, UM, WE'RE TALKING OUT ABOUT THE PROCESS.
UM, IT'S REALLY, I THINK IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT AND, AND REALLY VALUABLE TO HAVE.
I'LL STOP HERE FROM THE, FROM THE LIBRARY BOARD, BECAUSE THAT ACTUALLY MAKES, I THINK OUR JOB A LITTLE BIT EASIER.
MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE, UM, THAT WE'VE PASSED THIS ON TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITHOUT RECOMMENDATION, AND MAYBE JUST WITH THE IDEA THAT WE WOULD HAVE LIKED SOME INPUT AND THAT MAYBE WE COULD HAVE, UM, UH, LET ME, WE COULD HAVE HAD SOME INPUT FROM THE BEGINNING.
UH, WHEN THERE IS A, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ART TO MAYBE OPEN UP THE PROCESS SO THAT IT BECOMES SOMETHING WHERE WE CAN, WE CAN OPEN UP TO THE COMMUNITY OF, OF, AND AGAIN, OF, OF, OF NATIONAL CITY BASED ARTISTS FIRST, OR, OR TO GIVE THEM ANY OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE.
BUT I THINK MAYBE, MAYBE IT DOES MAKE SENSE TO PASS IT ON WITHOUT A RECOMMENDATION.
UM, AND THAT WAY THE COUNCIL CAN, CAN I, I, I BELIEVE THIS SHOULD, THIS, MAYBE THAT'S THE REASON WHY IT WAS A COUNCIL DECISION, BUT, BUT HAVING THAT BE THE INPUT FROM, FROM, UH, FROM OUR BOARD.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
DO I NEED, UH, TO PUT THAT IN FORMAL MOTION? DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? IS THAT, NO.
SO I GUESS I'LL, I'LL MAKE THAT FIRST.
AND IS THERE ANY SECONDS TO THAT? UM, MOTION BY MYSELF, SECOND VICE COMMISSIONER JOHNSON TO, UM, TAKE THAT POSITION LEADING THREE.
UH, WHICH BASICALLY IT'S THE REST OF, WE HAVEN'T VOTED YET, SO WE HAVE NOT VOTED YET.
C CAN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION? COULD I MAKE THE MOTION TO BE COMPLICATED?
I DON'T WANNA EMBARRASS ANY STAFF.
DO THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE
UM, AND MAYBE THAT'S A SEPARATE ISSUE.
MAYBE WE SHOULD DEAL WITH THAT SEPARATE.
AND I, I, I SAY THAT AGAIN BECAUSE COMMITTEES LIKE THIS ARE IN A POSITION TO KEEP FOLKS WHO SIT IN BIG CHAIRS OUT OF TROUBLE.
AND, AND IT'S NO FUN TO BE LIKE THAT, UH, ABOUT OUR, YOU KNOW, THEY COME EASY PROJECT.
SO I LIKE PEOPLE SNIPING HERE.
I JUST MEAN IN THE FUTURE, IT'S WHOEVER GETS THE ROLE OF MAKING ARTISTIC DECISIONS IS GONNA HAVE PEOPLE WHO LOVE 'EM AND PEOPLE WHO THEY, UM, AND IT JUST SEEMS TO BE BETTER IF, UH, THAT DOESN'T END UP IN THE LACK OF THE CITY MANAGEMENT OR DECISIONS.
IN THEORY, WE ALL KNOW SOMETHING.
SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE CAN SAY THESE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S THEIR SPECIALTY.
SO YES, I WOULD VOTE FOR THE MOTION THEN.
SO, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN CONVEY, WELL, ONE OF 'EM, STAFF DIRECTION ONE IS NOT PART OF THE MOTION, RIGHT? I MEAN, THE MOTION IS JUST TO, TO MOVE THIS ON TO THE COUNCIL.
WE DO, BUT IT, IT WOULD ACTUALLY, WOULD THE RECORD REFLECT WHY WE DID IT? NO.
WOULD, UM, UM, IT WOULDN'T, UM, I THINK IF YOU ARE MAKING A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE RECOMMENDATION TO, UH, INCLUDE PUBLIC ARTS COMMITTEE FOR ALL FUTURE ART INSTALLATIONS ON CITY OF NATIONAL CITY PUBLIC PROPERTY THAT WERE THE MOTION AND THEN THAT WAS APPROVED, THEN THAT COULD BE PUT IN THE FORM OF, THEN YOU COULD VOTE AND IT WOULD BE, UH, BROUGHT TO STATE COUNCIL AND THANK YOU.
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IN THIS CASE, THE LIBRARY.UH, AND UH, AND, AND IT COULD INCLUDE THE, I MEAN, IT COULD ALSO INCLUDE THE LOCATION, UH, IF IT'S NOT NECESSARILY ON WHAT WE COULD CONSIDER A CITY OF NATIONAL CITY FACILITY, BUT SAY IT IS SOMEWHERE ELSE IN NATIONAL CITY THAT THE ROCK, UM, SOMEWHERE, UH, TO INVOLVE AS MANY CONSTITUENTS AS POSSIBLE.
BUT THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE IN THE FORM OF A MOTION.
I DIDN'T MEAN TO START ALL THIS.
I WAS JUST BASICALLY TRYING TO SAY THAT ANYTIME WE GET, LIKE, WE TAKE TIME OUT OF OUR DAYS TO DO THIS AND AS, AS SERVICE, RIGHT? SO, YOU KNOW, WE ALL HAVE STUFF THAT WE COULD BE DOING RIGHT NOW, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY TIME WE'RE HERE, LIKE WE DON'T REALLY GET TO DO ANYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH ART.
WE HAVEN'T ONCE YET, LIKE THE LAST WAS THE BASKETBALL COURTS.
THEY ALREADY HAD THREE DESIGNS FOR US TO CHOOSE FROM, AND WE HAD TO CHOOSE.
AND I DON'T LIKE ANY OF, AND NO ONE LIKED ANY, SO I DON'T, I JUST, IT'S KIND OF CONFUSING WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE.
LIKE WHY ARE WE PART OF A PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE IF WE'RE ALL INVOLVED IN ART, BUT NO ONE HAS ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT WHAT ACTUALLY GETS DONE IN NATIONAL CITY.
SO, YOU KNOW, I APOLOGIZE IF I'M RUFFLING FEATHERS OR ANYTHING, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S JUST MY, MY WARNING.
I MEAN, NO, I MEAN, I, I BELIEVE THAT'S, THAT'S THE REASON FOR THIS COMMITTEE, UM, TO BE ADVISED, OBVIOUSLY.
UM, AND I THINK SIGNED UP, THEREFORE, I, I THINK I WILL, I WILL KEEP THAT IN MY MOTION.
UH, THEN I BELIEVE AS YOU WOULD MAKE THE MOTION TO BE THAT WE DO NOT, UH, WE, WE PASS THIS ON WITHOUT A, WITHOUT ADVICE, WITHOUT ADVICE NOTING THAT THE REASON WE'RE DOING THAT IS BECAUSE WE WOULD'VE LIKED TO HAVE HAD A MORE, A MORE, UH, INCLUSIVE PROCESS.
INCLUSIVE PROCESS, UH, IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF OUR, THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY.
IS THAT, IS THAT, I, I THINK THAT'S VERY NICELY DONE.
IS PUBLIC COMMENT OR IS IT POSSIBLE PUBLIC COMMENT.
YOUR NAME FOR THE, FOR THE, FOR THE RECORD OF JOAN
SO CITY MANAGER OF THE CITY GETS $270,000 A YEAR IN SALARY LIKE THIS.
SO I'M SURE HE CAN HANDLE A LITTLE BIT EMBARRASSMENT.
UM, THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE A GENERAL FOR CITY THINGS.
IF THERE'S A DESIRE TO HAVE A MURAL, YOU WOULD WANT TO CREATE A BUDGET FOR THAT.
AND THEN AS YOU SAY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A NOTION OF DOING SOME SORT OF REQUEST OR PROPOSAL AND THERE'S NO REASON WHY THAT NEEDS TO BE DOD AROUND AS FAR AS THE PROCESS IS CONCERNED.
IT GONNA BE SENSE, IN MY VIEW, THE SHARP OF THE LIBRARY BOARD OR THE PUBLIC ART.
I MEAN, I THINK IT'S RIGHT THAT IT'S ENDING UP WITH BOTH.
AND I WAS NOT EXPECTING THIS TODAY, BUT IT'S INTERESTING TO HEAR THAT ACTUALLY IN TERMS OF THE SUBSTANCE OF NEW ROLES THAT PEOPLE WHO KNOW ARE, HAVE NO CASE ART AT ALL.
THE PEOPLE WHO KNOW ART ARE NOT NECESSARILY REAL EXCITED ABOUT THIS, THIS MURAL.
SO IT SHOULD BE A CONCERN TO PEOPLE ON THIS COMMITTEE.
AND ACTUALLY THROUGHOUT THE CITY, WHEN YOU HAVE SOMEBODY ON STAFF, YOU'RE PROTECT, WHETHER IT'S THE LOWER LEVEL TO THE TOP LEVELS SAYING, OH, HEY, I HAVEN'T LEARNED, I THINK THE SCHOOL SO LONG, YOU BUDGET, YOU CAN DO HOURS, THEN THAT'S KIND OF WHERE IT BEGINS AND END.
I ALSO DO SECOND MR. NAZA'S COMMENT ABOUT, I DON'T THINK THAT EIGHT, $10,000 IS REFLECTIVE OF THE, LIKE AT THE, THE MATERIALS COST OF DOING BUREAU
I DON'T THINK THAT'S A TRUE STATEMENT.
WHOEVER CAME UP WITH THAT IDEA, I DON'T THINK IT WAS A TRUE STATEMENT.
SO I THINK YOU'RE, I THINK I JUST WANNA SAY I ENDORSE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT THERE NEEDS TO BE A PROCESS HERE WHERE THIS COMMITTEE IN PARTICULAR HAS AN EARLY STATE AND WHAT'S GOING ON AS FAR AS PUBLIC GARDEN IN THE CITY.
AND IN CONCLUSION, I'LL JUST SAY THAT PART OF THE REASON THAT MOST OF THE PEOPLE ON THE COMMITTEE, MR. RILEY, HAVE NOT SEEN A LOT OF MURAL PROPOSALS IS THAT THE CITY DID GO THROUGH LIKE, KIND A STATE OF THAT KIND OF THING AND LIKE DRESSING UTILITY BOXES AND OTHER THINGS THAT INVOLVE BEING PUBLIC SPACES, FOR LACK OF BETTER PHRASE.
BUT IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE THEY'VE DONE A LOT OF THAT.
AND THE MOST RECENT THING, JUST ANYTHING LIKE IT, I CAN'T REMEMBER QUITE WHO WAS HERE FOR THAT, BUT WHEN THE PROPOSAL CAME BY, AGAIN, SOMEBODY WORKING THROUGH ARTS, WE SURVIVE TO DO THE LINKS, TO DO THE STUFF THAT'S NOW IN CONSULT PAPER.
AND THAT'S PUTTING A FILL IN THE MOST RECENT, IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME.
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ELSE.ANY OTHER COMMENT? NO, IT SEEMS TO BE GREAT TO GET THAT PROCESS SO THAT WE ALL KNOW, WELL WHAT WOULD YOU DO? I THINK, YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS IMAGINED THAT YOU ARTISTS ARE THE ONES THAT LOOK AT THE ART AND DECIDED AND DATED.
UH, I KNOW THAT SOMETIMES IT HAPPENS AT RUBBER STAND.
APPRECIATE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC TODAY AND, UM, I THINK WE'RE READY TO VOTE.
UM, NEXT, UH, THE ART AND ECONOMIC PROSPERITY SURVEY RESULTS.
SO I'M, I'M GETTING ABREAST OF, UH, WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN WORKING ON RECENTLY, AND FORGIVE ME IF IT'S NOT ALL PACKAGED PROOF, BUT I'M GOING TO PASS AROUND, UM, THE RESULTS, EXCUSE ME.
THE INFORMATION THAT WAS MADE AVAILABLE TO ME.
AND THIS WE'LL PROVIDE YOU WITH A LINK WHERE YOU CAN LOOK THROUGH THE SURVEY RESULTS.
I DIDN'T THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR ME TO JUST READ THEM OFF.
SO PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO, UM, LOOK, LOOK AT THE LINKS THAT ARE ON THE COLORFUL PAGE AROUND HERE.
AND, UH, I DON'T WANNA TAKE ANY CREDIT FOR, UH, WHAT, UH, MYRA MAY HAVE BEEN WORKING ON WITH YOU PRIOR.
SO IF YOU HAVE A MOMENT TO LOOK AT THE, APPRECIATE IT.
BUT THAT ISN'T FOR THE, UH, RESULTS PORTION.
AND I CAN PUT NEXT MONTH, IF DESIRED, I COULD ACTUALLY PRINT OUT THE RESULTS AND WE CAN PROBABLY IN INSIDE EL PASS THIS DOWN SHEET AS WELL.
WAS THIS, WAS THIS, THIS RELEASE WAS DONE IN DECEMBER 1ST.
THIS ONE WAS DONE IN, THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE, UM, PRESS RELEASE IN DECEMBER, AND THEN THERE WAS THE FINDINGS, I BELIEVE IT WAS IN JANUARY.
UM, SO THE AP AMERICANS FOR THE ARTS.ORG, I CLICKED ON THAT AND THEN I WAS ABLE TO ALSO LOOK AT THE SURVEY RESULTS I DID.
I DO THINK WE, WE DID SEE THIS OR WAS IT, WERE THOSE FINALIZED WHEN WE SAW THEM? SO I LOOKED THROUGH SOME OF THE INFORMATION AND, UH, LOOKING THROUGH PAST
SO I JUST WANTED TO GET SOME MORE INFORMATION FROM YOU IF THIS WAS SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO KEEP ON THE, UM, AGENDA OR IF THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT HAD ALREADY CONCLUDED.
I, I THINK OUR MOST LAST TIME WERE VERY SIMILAR TO, TO WHAT THEY WERE TODAY, IS THAT IT'S KIND OF IN THIS CITY, IT SEEMS LIKE IT ALL GOES TO ARTS AND THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER CULTURAL ORGANIZATIONS IN NATIONAL CITY.
LIKE, IT KIND OF BYPASSED NOTHING AGAINST ARTS.
YOU GUYS DO INCREDIBLE WORK, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I'M JUST SAYING THERE'S SO MANY ORGANIZATIONS OUT THERE THAT, THAT DESERVE A LITTLE SHINE TO A LOT OF STARVING ARTISTS AND PEOPLE IN NATIONAL CITY THAT CAN EASILY
I THINK THAT'S, THOSE WERE MY NOTES AT LEAST LAST TIME.
I APPRECIATE THAT AND I APPRECIATE THE, UM, THE, THE PERSONAL, THE, THE INTERACTION.
IT TELLS A LOT MORE THAN, UH, READING THROUGH THE, THE MINUTES.
ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT I REMEMBER WAS SOME, THERE WERE MAYBE FIVE OR SIX SPONSOR ORGANIZATIONS THAT WERE CITED IN THE ARTS WAS NOT ALUMNI.
UM, ALTHOUGH IT SHOULD, IT'S AN OVERSIGHT.
UM, THERE MAY BE OTHER ARTS ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT.
AND IF WE CAN EVER GET THE BALL ASIDE, THINGS DONE AND BEYOND THERE WOULD BE WILLING TO DIVE INTO, UM, RESEARCH MATERIAL AT THE PUBLIC LIBRARY.
I DON'T KNOW THAT I'LL FIND ANYTHING THAT WE DON'T ALREADY KNOW ABOUT.
THERE ARE ORGANIZATIONS THAT JUST ARE UNDER THE RADAR AND WE SHOULD KNOW ABOUT THEM AND WE SHOULD HELP PUBLICIZE THEM.
YEAH, AND I, THAT, THAT JOGGED MY MEMORY.
I DO BELIEVE WHAT WE ENDED UP DISCUSSING WAS THAT THEY CHECKED AND THAT ARTS WAS INCLUDED, BUT THEY ALSO DID THE SURVEYS.
I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT, WHAT, WHAT THAT'S, THAT'S WAS WHAT CAME OUT OF THE OTHER ONE.
BUT WE DID, WE DID AGREE THAT THERE MIGHT BE INDIVIDUALS AND ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE UNDER THE RADAR AND IF THERE IS A WAY TO SURVEY THEM OR TO START COLLECTING, I BELIEVE IT WAS YOU AND RYAN WHO SAID YOU MIGHT, YOU WOULD LIKE TO VOLUNTEER, TO VOLUNTEER TO, TO HAVE SOME SORT OF INVENTORY OF ARTISTS SUBC.
SO COMMITTEE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I STILL HAVE SOME OF THAT MATERIAL, BUT NOT ALL OF THEM HAVE, BUT, WELL, YEAH, IN TERMS OF THE ACTUAL THING, I BELIEVE
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THEN THEY HAD A NEWS CONFERENCE THAT MIGHT HAVE, MIGHT HAVE BEEN PUSHED, I BELIEVE THAT MIGHT HAVE HAD DURING THE RES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.NO, NOT, UH, TO DO WITH
SORRY, I JUST SAID I WAS NOT AWARE, BUT YOU KNOW, I, I WAS AWARE OF THE, UH, THAT CELEBRATION.
OKAY, NEXT ITEM IS THE ALARIA COMMEMORATION PLAQUE UPDATE.
AND THEN JOSE, WILL YOU ALSO, UM, OR WAS THAT THE REASON TO SURVIVE UPDATE OR WERE YOU ALSO SPEAKING TO THE, UH, ARI AS WELL? UM, I THINK WE WERE GONNA DO A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH.
I, WE HAVE THE OPTIONS LIKE FOR THE PLAQUE.
UM, WELL FIRST AND FOREMOST, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE HERE.
UM, AS A NATIONAL CITY RESIDENT, UH, IT'S REALLY, UH, NICE TO SEE LIKE THE CIVIC ENGAGEMENT OF
SO THANK Y'ALL FOR WELCOMING ME.
UM, I'M JOSE LOPEZ, THE ADVANCEMENT COORDINATOR OVER AT OR REGION TO SURVIVE.
AND, UM, THESE ARE SOME OF THE FIVE OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE, UH, MADE READY FOR THE, UH, THE ARI PROJECT, UM, THAT I BELIEVE IT'S GONNA BE PLACED OVER ON FIRST AVENUE, UM, DOWN STREET FROM MY HOUSE.
IT'S REALLY EXCITING TO SEE THAT I LIVE DOWN THE STREET FROM THERE.
AND AS AN ART, I AM LIKE EXCITED FOR THIS, ALL THE ART PIECES.
HE'S A SON OF NATIONAL CITY, SO IT'S EXCITING TO CELEBRATE, UH, A BIG, UH, NAME, UH, FOR, FOR THE CITY.
UH, SO THIS IS ONE OF THE OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE AT 16.
BY 12 IT WOULD BE ENGRAVED ON AN ALUMINUM SHEET, UM, THAT IS A PRICE AT THE BOTTOM.
AND THEN, UH, THE NEXT ONE, UH, IS, UH, I BELIEVE THE SAME SIZE EXCEPT IT'S CAST AND BRONZE.
UM, THE PRICE IS THERE AS WELL.
UH, THE FOLLOWING TWO OPTIONS ARE THE SAME KIND OF, UH, NARRATIVE THAT'S ON THE PLAQUES, EXCEPT IT'S A DIFFERENT SHAPE.
AGAIN, THIS FIRST ONE IS ON ALUMINUM AND THE NEXT ONE WILL BE ON, UM, UH, CAST AND BRONZE.
UM, SO THOSE ARE THE OPTIONS THAT WE'VE PUT FOR THE PROMIS PROJECT.
UM, YOU DESCRIBED IT AS A SHEET.
I BELIEVE THE, THE FIRST ONES ARE, UH, A ALUMINUM SHEET AND THE THICKNESS OF THE SHEET.
I'M NOT TOO SURE, BUT I WANT TO SAY IT WOULD BE LIKE SHEET, I'M NOT CURRENT COVERED THIS BEFORE, BUT THE PRICING IS OBVIOUSLY INDICATIVE OF THE HOW, HOW MUCH IT WOULD STAND UP TO WEATHER, I WOULD ASSUME AVAILABILITY.
I, AGAIN, OBVIOUSLY WAS SICK TODAY, BUT, UM, THE PRICE WOULD BE INDICATIVE OF THE QUALITY OF THE MATERIALS AS WELL AS, UH, AND TO MAKE IT, DO YOU KNOW IF THE VULNERABILITY IS THE SAME? I THINK THE, I MEAN, I, I
UM, BUT REALLY BRONX AT THE TIME, UM, VERY SIMILAR TO THE MATERIAL THAT'S USED OVER AT THE, UH, STADIUM.
AND, UH, SO MY SPECIALTY IS NOT ART.
I ENJOY ART, BUT I'VE WORKED IN PARKS AND RECREATION FOR ABOUT 22 YEARS, AND A LOT OF, UM, PLAQUES THAT WE UTILIZE ARE BRONZE AND THE DIFFERENT AGENCIES I WORK FOR, AND THEY SEEM TO STAND THE TEST OF TIME A LITTLE BETTER THAN ANY OF THE, I MEAN, ALUMINUM, IT'S, IT'S, IT CAN GET DAMAGED WITH SOME, UH, HAIL.
SO WHAT IT'S WORTH, THAT'S TRUE.
UM, I'M, I'M A LITTLE WORRIED THAT WE'RE NOT GETTING ENOUGH.
UM, I'M NOT SURE WHO
SO I, I THINK THE SHEET IS PROBABLY NOT SUFFICIENT STAND UP.
AND ONE OF THE OPTIONS, AND, AND WHEN IT COMES TIME, IT COMES TIME SOON, I WILL PUSH VERY HARD TO HAVE IT IN SIDEWALK AS OPPOSED TO IN THE LANDSCAPE.
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SO IT'S PUT IN THE LANDSCAPE THAT WILL HAVE TO HAVE A COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND CONCRETE DEBRIS.UM, AND THAT IS WHERE THE TREE, IT, ITS WATER.
THERE'S A CYCLE FROM ONE SIDE, THERE'S A STREET ON THE OTHER.
AND WE SHOULD NOT, I THINK, ATTACK THE ROOTS OF THE TREE SO THAT, THAT IT'S ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT DOWNTOWN NEW YORK, BUT IT'S GONNA WALK THROUGH THE FIVE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE.
BUT YOU KNOW, IT SHOULD IN THE SIDEWALK OR IN THE, UH, IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, THE ON, ON THE, ON THE SIDEWALK ITSELF OR IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, LIKE IN THE, I WOULD SAY ON, ON THE SIDEWALK ITSELF.
BUT FOR THE REASON THAT, UM, WE, A GIFT ON THIS, I, I WOULD WORRY ABOUT US GOING THROUGH ALL THIS STUFF, PUTTING IT IN THE, IN THE PARKWAY WHERE THE GRASS IS DIGGING DOWN MM-HMM.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE IT GOES.
UM, WE'LL TAKE THE HEAT INSTEAD OF THE CITY MANAGER OF THAT ONE.
UM, AND, AND ALSO THE HOMEOWNER IS DOING THIS REMODEL AND AS PART OF THE REMODEL HAS HAD TO REMOVE PART OF THE SIDEWALK AND SAYING, HEY, YOU GIMME THE PLAQUE AND WE'LL BE HAPPY TO IN EMBEDDED IN THE SIDEWALK.
UM, AND SO, I MEAN, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT'S TWO GOODS.
I DID SPEAK WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND THEY HAVE NO CONCERN WITH IT BEING IN THE RIGHT ON, ON THE SIDEWALK.
THEY JUST, UH, THEY DID MENTION THAT THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO THE MAINTENANCE NECESSARILY, LIKE ON ONGOING MAINTENANCE, BUT, UH, IF IT IS A GOOD QUALITY MATERIAL, THEN IT WOULD TAKE MINIMAL.
I MEAN, PEOPLE ARE INVENTIVE, BUT IT WOULD TAKE MINIMAL CARE IF IT IS, UH, UH, REPEATED OR I'M ALSO WONDERING WHETHER, WHETHER ARTS AT THAT POINT, IT BECOMES A EDUCATIONAL TOOL WHERE YOU GUYS CAN ACTUALLY DO THE NO OPPORTUNITY.
I WISH I KNEW MORE ABOUT IT, BUT, UM, I MEAN, IT, IT, I MEAN ITSELF, YOU KNOW, IT'S AN EDUCATION.
SO I THINK WE WANT KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE DIMENSION IS AND THEN NOW BE ATTACHED OR THERE ARE THINGS CALLED THE BUSES, AH, ATTACHED TO THE, TO THE GROUND.
I CAN TAKE THOSE BACK TO, UM, TO LUC WHAT INFORMATION SHE HAS ON THAT.
AND THEN, UM, HOPEFULLY SHE'LL BE ABLE TO BRING IT BACK TO YOU ALL WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION SO IT DOESN'T STICK IT UP, OBVIOUSLY PUSH AGAINST THE CONCRETE REASON WE SHEET.
NOW WE HAVE ABOUT 2000 EURO FUNDS FOR THIS.
AND SO THIS IS THE PRICE OF JUST ONE.
DID WE, DID WE ASK ABOUT EXTRA JUST IN CASE WE HAD, I THINK WE TALKED THAT LAST TIME, WHETHER WE MIGHT, BECAUSE I THINK, I BELIEVE THE, THE CASTING IS THE, UM, YEAH, IS THE EXPENSIVE, IT WAS THE EXPENSIVE PART.
SO IF THERE WAS THE EXTRAS, JUST IN CASE THEY, WHEREVER NEEDED, I MEAN, WE KNOW THAT THE ONES HERE WERE, WERE TAKEN AT ONE POINT BECAUSE THEY WERE BRONZE.
THOSE, THOSE WERE STOLEN FOR A WHILE.
UM, IS PROBABLY MORE EXPENSIVE WHEN THEY DO THE ALUMINUM, THEY LASER.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE ALUMINUM TWO CAME OUT, WHERE WE WOULD TRY TO SEE SOMETHING THAT THAT MIGHT NOT, UH, IT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY SAD THAT WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON THE MOST NEGATIVE YEAH.
SORT OF, UH, UH, UH, ASPECT OF IT.
BUT I'M WONDERING WHETHER THAT IS SOMETHING, AND THEN TO THAT END, IF IT'S SOMETHING, IF IT'S ONE OF THESE, WHETHER THERE'S ANY SORT OF PROTECTIVE BARRIER THAT MIGHT BE EASIER TO CLEAN.
UH, SO THAT, THAT THAT'S, I WASN'T, I MEAN, I KNOW, AND I HATE STIPULATE WITH THE POINT, BUT IT SORT OF SEEMS LIKE WE'RE GETTING THERE.
UH, THESE ARE ALMOST LIKE JUST SORT OF TO HAVE THE OPTIONS BEFORE WE
I'M, I, I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED WITH THE TIMELINE.
IF, UM, THE HOMEOWNER, THE, UH, MR. CARDENAS, YES.
UM, IT, UH, THE FAMILY, IF THEY'RE, IF THEY'RE READY TO, THEY MAY BE READY TO POUR THE CEMENT AND WE WANNA TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE OPPORTUNITY TO UTILIZE THEIR SERVICES, THEIR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AT, AT A NO COST.
SO IF, WELL, IS THE COMMITTEE COMFORTABLE HAVING ME? I GOTTA GO AWAY FOR A WEEK NEXT WEEK OR RUNNING AROUND GETTING ALL THIS STUFF DONE.
SO IT GETS DOWN TO THIS, THIS WE KNOW TO BE THICK ENOUGH.
THIS WE KNOW CAN BE MOUNTED FLUSH IN THE SIDEWALK.
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I DON'T WANT, WOULD THAT REQUIRE ANOTHER VOTE FOR A SPECIAL MEETING? YES.COULD MAKE A MOTION SUGGESTIVE QUESTION DID, WHO WOULD WORK, SAY ANYTHING ABOUT ANY KIND OF AIR CODE OR SOMETHING THAT WANTS TO SAY IN THE SIDEWALK IS ANYTHING THAT COULD BE APPLIED OVER IT BY ANYBODY IN ORDER FINALIZED IT TO PROTECTED AGAINST THAT QUESTION.
I, I, WE DID HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE RECENT PART, UM,
I, I WOULD WANT TO DOUBLE CHECK THAT, BUT I, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD ONLY ONE WHO DOESN'T SEEM TO HAVE THAT PROBLEM AROUND CSD.
ONE THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR 15 YEARS.
AND ALSO, I MEAN, IF, IF, IF THAT, I MEAN IT'S ALL, IF IT'S GONNA BE IN THE, ON THE SIDEWALK, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO FIGURE OUT THAT IT'S SOMETHING YOU CAN ACTUALLY STILL WALK.
UM, SO THAT MIGHT NOT SLIPPERY, UM, AND, AND NOT PROTRUDING.
IDEALLY I THINK IT WOULD BE RATHER, UH, WE WANT TO MAKE THE LETTERS DOWN IN RATHER THAN STICKING UP.
AND THEN MAYBE SOMETHING THAT, YEAH.
UM, SO, SO SHOULD WE
HOWEVER, IF THAT'S NOT, UH, SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE AND THAT MOTION THAT THAT WOULD CARRY OVER ITS OWN CAVEAT OF, OF, UM, THE SPECIFICS DIMENSIONS AND THAT SORT OF THING.
OR WE COULD CHOOSE TO HAVE ANOTHER MEETING, A SPECIAL MEETING, UM, MEETING, UH, WITH THE, THE, UH, THICKNESS AND WITH THOSE, UM, PREPARED, I, I DON'T WANNA MAKE A MOTION THAT SELF-SERVING EVEN I VOLUNTEER TO DO IT WITH.
SO I, I WOULD LIKE THE NEXT MEETING TO ACTUALLY GET THIS DONE.
IN YOUR EIGHTIES, THINGS LOOK DIFFERENT
SO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I VOLUNTEER TO DO WHATEVER IS NECESSARY.
GET IT TO WHERE TO BE, BE SAY YES OR NO.
LET'S, LET'S, UH, WELL, I, I HONESTLY DON'T CARE IF IT'S ALL SERVING.
I JUST WANT MOTION THAT WOULD GET THIS FORWARD.
WELL, UH, CAN I, UH, I SERVE NEW GUIDANCE.
UM, THE MOTION WOULD BE TO, WELL, NO, CAN WE DO AN APPROXIMATE TALK ABOUT WHAT OUR OPTION OF, OF WHAT OUR PREFERENCES ARE IN TERMS OF MATERIAL FOR NOW, AND THEN GIVE THAT AS A SURE.
LIKE AN APPROVAL ON CONTINGENCY TYPE THING.
CONTINGENCY OF LIKE, WE APPROVE THIS IF IT'S THICK ENOUGH AND IT ALL THIS STAND TYPE THING.
OR WHAT A MOTION MAYBE THAT MAKES IT, PROVIDES CHOICES AND IT MAKES IT ACTIONABLE FROM THAT POINT ON.
AND, AND I WOULD BE AS SPECIFIC AS YOU CAN, SO THAT WAY WE HAVE THOSE PARAMETERS TO WORK WITH AND THEN GET IT IN THE, THE GROUND.
BUT WE, SO WE PROBABLY SHOULD, SHOULD HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE, THE DESIGN AND THE SHAPE.
THE DESIGN IS SORT OF MORE OR LESS APPROVED YEAH.
TO THE COMMITTEE AND THE WORDING IS APPROVED.
WELL, THE MATERIAL, I MEAN MORE LIKE THE MATERIAL AND THE SHAPE, THOSE TWO.
UM, I'M HEARING BRONZE OVER THE, ABOUT THE ALUMINUM SQUARE OVER CIRCLE.
I WOULD DEFINITELY SAY BOX AND DEVOS RATHER THAN DEVO INBO, I WOULD SAY.
SO DEVOS BRONZE, THAT MEANS SOMETHING SQUARE.
THE THE OTHER THING WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT IS WHERE THAT QR CODE IS GONNA GO.
WELL THE OTHER THING IS WHO'S GONNA MANAGE THE QR CODE? IS THAT A LIBRARY FUNCTION?
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I MEAN, WE CAN, WE CAN, UH, GIVE YOU INFORMATION ABOUTMAY I ASK ALL PR
NOT, THAT'S WHY IT'S NICE TO HAVE A LIBRARY
AND SHE SAW THE LIBRARY
UM, BUT THEN WHEN COVID CAME BACK, THEY WENT SKYROCKETED.
EVERYONE WAS USING THEM FOR MENUS AND EVERYTHING IN RESTAURANTS.
IT'S ALSO NOT STANDARD IF THE CAMERAS USED TO HAVE TO GET ANOTHER, ANOTHER APP TO DO 'EM.
NOW THEY'RE JUST, THEY BEAT 'EM STRAIGHT UP.
SO I THINK THAT MIGHT ENSURE THEY'RE NEAR FUTURE.
UNLESS, YEAH, ABOUT THREE MONTHS FOR THAT
UM, WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT TWO AGO? IS THAT PART OF
BONDS DEBO DO, HE WANTS TO, I I MEAN WE WANNA REMOVE THE Q CODE.
WE JUST HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHERE TO GO.
THEY'RE THE MASTERS OF INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY.
I JUST, I DON'T MIND THAT SET UP.
SO LAYOUT AND BRONZE NUMBER ONE.
DO WE, DO WE SORT OF HAVE CONSENSUS THAT, THAT THAT'S THE DESIGN WE LIKE THE BEST OR THAT'S WHAT WE, I MEAN THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT I, WHEN I CAME ON BOARD, IT WAS ALREADY LIKE THAT.
AND THIS ACTUALLY SEEMS LIKE THIS IS WHAT YOU GUYS HAD, WHICH TO ME SAYS THAT THIS IS, YEAH, IT'S CLASSIC.
THIS IS THE VISION LOOKS CLEAN.
SO MOTION WOULD BE TO PURSUE THIS DESIGN WITH THE UNDERSTANDING LAYOUT NUMBER ONE, RECTANGLE AND BRONZE WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT MR. RILEY, CAN WE SAY THAT HE, HE EXPLORES THE, THE WIDTH OF IT TO SEE IF THICKNESS, THE THICKNESS OF IT TO ENSURE THAT DURABILITY.
IT'S DURABILITY AND IT'S, UM, CAN YOU HAVE THE FINAL SET? SO YOU COULD MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE, UM, IN INSTEAD OF, UH, MAYBE PURSUE MAYBE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE DESIGN, A LAYOUT NUMBER? YEAH.
SO, UM, WITH MR. RILEY'S, UH, WITH THE DIRECTION, MR. RILEY, THAT WOULD, AND I WANT, YEAH, I DON'T WANNA MAKE THE SIGNED DECISION, BUT, WELL, WELL ACTUALLY, HERE'S WHAT I COULD SAY.
IF WE PUT A NOT TO EXCEED PRICE OF 2,500 IS WHAT WE HAVE IN THE FUND.
WELL, WHAT, EVEN SAY DUNNO, 2000 AND IF IT GOES OVER THAT IT WOULD HAVE TO REQUIRE SOCIAL UNION, BUT IF IT DOESN'T, IT'S FINE.
AND TO ALSO INQUIRE ABOUT A DUPLICATE ONCE IN CASE IN CASE IT MATCHES THAT WAY, MAYBE WE COULD GET TWO FOR THE PRESS OF ONE AND IT WOULDN'T GO OVER THAT.
I'M GONNA HAVE TO RECORD, I'M GONNA HAVE TO LISTEN TO THAT RECORDING.
SO, SO THE MOTION IS TO PROVE LAYOUT NUMBER ONE AND RECTANGLE AND BRONZE, UH, WITH A DIRECTION, UH, WITH AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $2,000, WHICH IS WHAT'S IN THE CURRENT FUND, UH, WITH COMMISSIONER RILEY LOOKING AT THE THICKNESS OF THE PLAQUE AND WHETHER THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY TO GET A SECOND WITHIN THAT BUDGET TO HEAR A SECOND.
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THANK YOU.SAY, UH, YEAH, I CAN GIVE YOU A BRIEF UPDATE.
UM, SO, UH, RECENTLY SURVIVED.
WE JUST CONCLUDED OUR, UH, SPRING SESSION WITH OUR FINAL EVENT HAPPENING LAST SATURDAY.
I BELIEVE IT'S BEEN A BUSY WEEKS.
I'M A LITTLE ALL OVER THE PLACE.
UM, WE WELCOMED, UH, NEARLY 300 COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO OUR YOUTH ARTS FESTIVAL WHERE WE SHOWCASED ALL OF THE WORK THAT WAS COMPLETED BY THE YOUTH IN OUR PROGRAM.
UM, WE ALSO JUST, UH, CELEBRATED OUR BRIGHT LIGHTS EVENT.
UM, WE FOR A COUPLE DAYS BEFORE THAT, UH, A LOT OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS, A LOT OF, UH, STAKEHOLDERS THAT CAME BY TO CELEBRATE ALL THE WORK THAT WE'VE, UH, ACCOMPLISHED OVER THE PAST YEAR.
UM, THIS IS ONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON SINCE THE
AND THEN, UM, WE'RE WORKING ON ONE MORE PROJECT WITH THE SWEETWATER AUTHORITY FOR THE SPIGOT THAT IS OVER BY, UH, ELON PARK TO GET, UH, ON THERE AS WELL.
UM, SO A COUPLE PROJECTS AND JUST, UH, LOOKING FORWARD TO, UH, ANOTHER, UH, SUMMER SESSION.
UM, I KNOW WE HAVE A PROJECT IN PLACE WITH ALL THE WOOD GARDEN, UH, LATER IN THE SUMMER, SO EXCITED TO GET THAT OFF AND RUNNING.
IS THERE ANY UPDATE ON CEO OR, UM, UH, I NOT AS OF NOW.
UM, UH, WE'RE STILL KIND OF IN THAT, UH, OBVIOUS IN THAT INTERIM PERIOD WITH
THANK I AFTER THAT IT WAS A LONGER EVENT.
AND, UM, UH, RICARD, MR. MR.
NEVER BEEN PARTS THEY GOT A GREAT TUMOR FROM.
AND, AND SO IS I, IT WOULD BE A GOOD THING I THINK FOR THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE MEMBERS WHEN WE CAN TO GO TO SUCH THINGS.
UM, IF WE WANNA BUILD OUR STOCK WITH THE, UH, CITY MANAGER WHO WAS THERE, CITY COUNCIL MEMBER WHO WAS THERE, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S ONE WAY TO DO IT IS TO SAY HELP AT THE SAME.
UH, NOW IS THAT FOR YOUR REPORT? PERFECT.
UH, PORT OF SAN DIEGO, WE MEMBER HAS NOT BEEN HERE.
DO WE KNOW WHO IS THE, WHO IS THE REPRESENTATIVE? UM, WHAT'S THE REPRESENTATIVE? IS IT GUANO? I BELIEVE LAST NAME IS GUANO.
UM, PORT, I'LL REACH OUT TO THE INDIVIDUAL BASED OFF THE CONTACT INFORMATION THAT I HAVE, AND THEN IF I DO NOT GET A RESPONSE WITHIN A FEW DAYS, I'LL REACH OUT TO THE COURT OF SAN DIEGO, SEE WHO THEY IN, IN THE EVENT.
WELL, I BELIEVE IT, WE, IT IT'S A CITY APPOINTMENT.
UM, AND I GUESS MY UH, UH, COMMISSIONER CHA, UH, RILEY YOU USED TO BE YES.
IS THERE ANY NATIONAL CITY BUSINESS IN THE PORT RELATED TO ART? YES, THERE IS.
THERE'S FOR EXAMPLE, OVER ON, UH, THE ROAD IN THE MARINA.
SA SADLY IN THE MAYOR'S COMPANY, THEIR MORE SENSE COMPLAINED ABOUT THEY PARK FOX CARS.
UM, THERE HAS BEEN, UM, DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WHAT TO DO WITH, UH, ONE THING TO THE PUBLIC DISCUSS THAT THAT SORT OF WIND TIME TYPE SCULPTURES WAS GIVEN.
THE ONE POINT, THE CITY OWNED IT AND THEN THE PORT TOOK IT OVER AND, AND THAT'S PART OF THE FORT LAND.
I WAS JUST WONDERING IN TERMS OF WHETHER, NOT HAVING ANY MEETINGS OR IF THERE'S ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT, I THINK THERE ARE HAVING MEETINGS, THE GOING MEETINGS WHERE NOTHING ELSE TO SHARE WITH NATIONAL CITY HERE.
UM, UM, BUT I THINK THAT JUST WANTED ASK SINCE, SINCE I DON'T BELIEVE I HAVE HAD IN OTHER, WHEN YOU WERE DOING IT, I DON'T THINK WE'VE HAD A PORT UPDATE SINCE.
AND I BELIEVE EVEN THEN THERE'S JUST A COUPLE OF MEETINGS THAT I THINK THEY RECORD, BUT
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IT NEEDS TO BE A, YOU KNOW, JUST SORT OF A SUMMARYI THINK THAT DOES IT FOR NEW AND UNFINISHED BUSINESS.
UM, WELL THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
MY FIRST MEETING, UM, I JUST WANTED TO MENTION, UM, I KNOW SOMETIMES, UH, THESE COMMITTEES AND THESE BOARDS, UM, I HAVE HEARD KINDA A GENERAL CONSENSUS THAT SOMETIMES PEOPLE FEEL, UM, LIKE WHAT IS OUR PURPOSE AND WHAT IS OUR INTENT? AND SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP BY OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS IS DOING A, UM, GOAL SETTING OR PRIORITY SETTING, AND IT'S AN EXERCISE DURING ONE OF OUR REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETINGS TO, UM, DISCUSS WHAT IS THE INTENT OF THE, UM, ORDER COMMISSION AND HOW DO THEY, OR HOW DO THEY EXPRESS THE, UM, AGENDA OR THEIR, THEIR, HOW DO THEY EXPRESS THE BEST INTEREST OF THE RESIDENTS TO THE COUNCIL.
ANY, ANY, UH, COMMENTS FROM B MEMBERS? ANYTHING? UM, I, I, THAT SEEMS LIKE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO, TO DO THAT.
IT SORT OF SEEMS LIKE SOME OF THE, THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MAJORING ONE OF THE, UM, ISSUES TODAY WE'RE SORT OF ASKING FOR THAT SORT OF, UH, PURPOSE.
WHAT IS OUR PURPOSE? UH, AND MAYBE JUST SINCE WE DO HAVE A LOT OF NEW MEMBERS, UH, ALSO A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO SORT OF, SORT OF, UH, GET ON THE SAME PAGE ABOUT WHAT IS AND MAYBE RECOMMEND SOME, UH, UH, AREAS FOR, FOR WHAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE AS WELL.
THERE IS SOMEWHERE A DRAFT PUBLIC ART PLAN.
UM, AND YOU CAN THROW IT AWAY IF YOU WANT.
UH, BUT I, I THINK I WORKED WITH THAT LOST TIME THAT, UM, AND I MEAN, IT MIGHT BE A BEGINNING.
UH, I, I GIVE THAT TO YOU, BUT I BE NICE TO HAVE A BUDGET, BE NICE TO BE ABLE TO SORT, THIS IS WHAT WE WANNA DO.
I'LL BRING THAT TO THE NEXT MEETING PROBABLY SO EVERYONE CAN SEE IT.
OR, UH, IT WOULDN'T BE A VIOLATION OF THE GRANT ACT IF I WERE TO PROVIDE THAT COPY.
UM, IT ACTUALLY, NO, BECAUSE I, I BELIEVE IT'S ALREADY BEEN, UH, DISCUSSED.
WE DISCUSSED IT, UH, IN DETAIL FOR SEVERAL MEETINGS, I BELIEVE, AND THEN IT JUST SORT OF FELL BY WAY.
IS THIS THE ONE THAT WELL, 'CAUSE I BELIEVE WE, WE TALKED ABOUT.
IT'S ALREADY A PUBLIC DOCUMENT, SO I BELIEVE SENDS A NICE REMINDER AND, OKAY, GREAT.
WE'LL SEND IT AN EMAIL AND THEN, UH, WE COULD EITHER, UH, ADD IT TO NEW, NEW BUSINESS FOR GOAL SETTING OR, UH, TO REVIEW THE PUBLIC ARTS COULD INFORM THE, IT COULD INFORM THE GOAL SETTING SESSION AS WELL.
THAT'S, I THINK THAT WAS A THOUGHT IF WE, AND IF WE HAD SOME CLEAR VISION OF SALES IS OUT THERE, WE COULD MAYBE START THINKING ABOUT AT THAT.
WITH THAT, I, I, UH, CALL THE MEETING AT, ADJOURN THE MEETING AT 4:13 PM THANK YOU.