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[1. CALL TO ORDER]
WELCOME EVERYONE TO THE FRIDAY EDITION OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND FOR OUR PRELIMINARY, UH, BUDGET WORKSHOP.AND WITH THAT, WE'LL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.
AND THE NOTICE AGENDA AND INFORMATION ON THE CITY OF NASHVILLE CITY'S WEBSITE INFORMS MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT THEY MAY SU, UH, SUBMIT A GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT OR A PUBLIC COMMENT ON A SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEM, ONLY ONE AGENDA ITEM HERE.
SO THAT'S, I GUESS THAT'S IT, UH, IN A NUMBER OF WAYS IN PERSON BY SUBMITTING ONE OF THESE SLIPS.
PLEASE GET THAT OVER TO THE, TO OUR CITY CLERK'S OFFICE RIGHT AWAY.
AND, UH, OR BY EMAILING NO LATER THAN FOUR HOURS BEFORE THE MEETING.
AND ALL WRITTEN, UH, COMMENTS RECEIVED WILL BE DISTRIBUTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL PRIOR TO THE WORKSHOP AND PUBLISHED ON THE CITY WEBSITE IF RECEIVED BY THE DEADLINE.
WITH THAT, COULD WE HAVE A PHONE CALL, PLEASE? UH, SURE.
WOULD YOU LIKE THE INTERPRETER TO ALSO, UM, OH, YES.
WHEN I INTERPRETATION TO USE THE INTERPRETING FEATURE, PLEASE SCROLL TO THE BOTTOM OF THE ZOOM SCREEN WHERE THE MEETING CONTROLS ARE LOCATED.
CLICK ON THE INTERPRETATION ICON, WHICH IS THE LITTLE WORLD ICON, AND SELECT SPANISH OR ENGLISH.
IF YOU ARE JOINING USING THE MOBILE APP ON A CELL PHONE OR TABLET, PLEASE PRESS THE ELLIPSES, THEN INTERPRETATION, AND THEN CHOOSE YOUR LANGUAGE.
CAN WE PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? AND, UH, MEMBER MOLINA, WOULD YOU LEAVE US PLEASE? READY, BEGIN ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO REPUBLIC FOR WISHES.
IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.
[4. PUBLIC COMMENT (Public Comment will be Restricted to Agenda Items Only)]
AT THIS TIME, WE'RE GONNA HEAR PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT ARE SPECIFIC TO THIS AGENDA.DO WE HAVE ANYONE ON ZOOM FOR THIS? WE DO NOT HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON ZOOM THIS AFTERNOON.
I HAVE ONE SPEAKER SLIP, AND THAT IS FOR, UH, EDO.
I CAN'T BELIEVE I'VE BEEN COMING TO THESE MEETINGS SO MANY TIMES,
BUT I REMEMBER LAST YEAR, AND I REMEMBER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS.
MY UNDERSTANDING, A LOT OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THAT LIST ARE NEW.
WHAT SIX ARE OUT OF THE 13 PEOPLE ARE BRAND NEW.
LAST YEAR, I REMEMBER IT SEEMED TO BE A LACK OF EDUCATION ON THE PARTS OF UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT A BUDGET WAS.
I REMEMBER HAVING TO DISCUSS PE WITH PEOPLE AND ARGUE WITH PEOPLE SAYING THERE'S A $1 MILLION SITUATION WHERE IT WAS EXPENDITURES THAT EXCEEDED REVENUE, AND PEOPLE WERE ARGUING.
TWO PEOPLE APPROVED THE BUDGET, AND THEY DIDN'T RECOGNIZE THAT.
SO, AS A MATTER OF NOT UNDERSTANDING THE BUDGET, I HOPE THIS YEAR WE START OFF WITH A BETTER UNDERSTANDING AND EDUCATING OURSELVES ON WHAT THIS MEANS.
YOU KNOW, OVER THE YEAR WE'VE HAD A LOT OF SITUATIONS WHERE OUR BUDGET HAS BEEN EXCEEDED IN ITEMS. FOR INSTANCE, YOU KNOW, WE HAD THE, THE BUDGETARY CONTROL OVER THE $70 MILLION, UM, UM, CANNABIS CONTRACT THAT EXCEEDED
IT EXCEEDED ITS ENCUMBRANCES BY, AS I UNDERSTAND, IT'S $70 MILLION UNTIL SOMEBODY HAD TO POINT IT OUT TO THE CITY THAT THEY GAVE THE CONTRACT OF $70,000.
I MEAN, I SAID 70 MILLION, $70,000 MORE THAN THE CONTRACT HAD.
SO WE NEED BUDGETARY CONTROLS.
AND I THINK THAT HOPEFULLY WE'LL START TALKING ABOUT THIS IN THIS MEETING.
I LOOK FORWARD TO A GOOD DISCUSSION.
I HOPE YOU GUYS ASK SOME REALLY GOOD QUESTIONS, AND NOT ONLY TO THE DEPARTMENTS, BUT YOURSELVES, SPECIFICALLY FOR THE SLUSH FUND.
AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THAT POLICY, AND I HOPE IT'S, IT'S DONE.
SO WE PREVENT A LOT OF THE THINGS WE SAW, UH, THIS COMING YEAR, THAT LA LAST YEAR.
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YOU.DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKER SLIPS? NO, THAT'S IT.
THAT CONCLUDES OUR PUBLIC, UH, COMMENT.
[5. STAFF REPORT]
WE WILL HAVE OUR STAFF REPORT ON OUR FISCAL YEAR 24 25 PRELIMINARY BUDGET WORKSHOP.AND AT THIS POINT, UM, WE HAVE OUR INTERIM, UH, INTERIM DIRECTOR OF FINANCE, PHIL DAVIS AND FINANCE MANAGER PAUL.
MAYOR, WOULD YOU LIKE TO LEAVE THIS OFF? AND I'M GONNA KICK US OFF, MAYOR.
THANK YOU FOR COMING IN ON A FRIDAY.
UM, SO, UM, THE BUDGET TEAM, I DID WANNA, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE, UH, WE KNOW THEM, BUT JUST TO KIND OF RE REINTRODUCE, UH, MYSELF, UH, UH, DIRECTOR MANGEN, UH, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER HADLEY, BRIAN HADLEY, PHIL D DAVIS IS OUR INTERIM FINANCE DIRECTOR HAS BEEN HELPING US.
UH, JANELLE P AL, UH, PAUL VALEZ IS OUR BUDGET MANAGER, AND HE'S THE ONLY ONE THAT WORKS ON THE BUDGET.
HE'S BEEN PUTTING A LOT OF HOURS AND, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, UM, I THINK HE DOES HAVE AN, AS SOMEONE THAT ASSISTS HIM IN SOME OF THE MATTERS, UH, SHEILA, BUT IT'S A, IT'S A LOT OF WORK.
I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN PUTTING IN, UM, THE HOURS, 'CAUSE I GET EMAILS FROM YOU, UH, AT THREE IN THE MORNING, SO, UH, I KNOW, I KNOW YOU'RE NOT WORKING ON OTHER THINGS.
UM, AND SO I WANTED TO THANK THE REST OF THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AS LISTED THERE FOR THEIR INPUT.
UH, SEVERAL, UH, GOOD DISCUSSIONS BEFORE, UH, TODAY'S PRELIMINARY, UH, BUDGET, UH, WORKSHOP.
UM, AND, UH, LOOKING AT THE OUTLINE, UM, WE HAVE TONIGHT, UH, INTRODUCTION AND OVERVIEW OF, OF THE FISCAL YEAR 25 BUDGET, UH, FIVE YEAR FORECAST FORECAST, UM, CIP DISCUSSION, AND WE'LL SEEK PUBLIC COMMENT AND CITY COUNCIL DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION.
UM, THE PLAN IS TO RETURN MAY 3RD.
UM, UM, I'D LIKE TO ASK THE COUNCIL IF YOU'D LIKE TO POSSIBLY MEET BEFORE THE 6:00 PM UM, UM, I'M SORRY, TODAY'S MAY 3RD.
I'D LIKE TO ASK THE COUNCIL IF THERE'S SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND.
WOULD WE POSSIBLY WANNA START EARLIER? UM, I THINK THAT WOULD BE HEALTHY, BECAUSE OTHERWISE, YEAH.
THEN WE GET DOWN TO THE BUSINESS ON THE AGENDA AND WE ARE AT 11 30, 12 O'CLOCK, AND WE'RE ALL GETTING A LITTLE DINGHY.
YEAH, WE DO HAVE A GOOD AMOUNT ON THE AGENDA, UH, FROM MAY 7TH AND, AND MAY, UH, MAY 21ST.
SO, WE'LL, WE'LL LOOK AT THAT.
UM, THAT WILL BE THE PROPOSED BUDGET ON MAY 21ST.
SO, UM, WE, YOU'LL HAVE A BUDGET BOOK ON MAY 21ST, WHERE TONIGHT, AGAIN, NO BUDGET BOOK.
THIS IS JUST PRELIMINARY DISCUSSION.
AND THEN THE IDEA WOULD BE TO RETURN FOR, UH, A FINAL, UH, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ADOPTION ON JUNE 4TH.
UM, THAT DOES STILL LEAVE US JUNE 18TH IF WE NEED IT FOR INSURANCE.
UM, SO, UM, THAT'S KIND OF AN OUTLINE OF THE BUDGET, UH, PROCESS.
UM, TONIGHT WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THE FORECASTED USE OF THE UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE.
AND BEFORE WE GET INTO, I, I TURNED THE MIC OVER TO, TO PAUL VAL, AS I GET INTO THE, THE PRELIMINARY BUDGET DISCUSSION, I WANNA, I WANT TO SAY THAT, UM, I WASN'T INVOLVED, BUT THERE WAS A FISCAL YEAR, 20 20, 20 TO 25, 5 YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN THAT WAS DEVELOPED, UM, YOU KNOW, APPROXIMATELY FIVE YEARS AGO.
UM, AND I'VE, I, I'M SUGGESTING SOME REVISIONS FOR THE FINAL FISCAL YEAR.
WE'RE IN THE FINAL FISCAL YEAR OF THAT STRATEGIC PLAN.
UM, I'LL BE DISSEMINATING THAT FOR YOUR, UM, REVIEW, AND I'LL PUT IT IN THE PROPOSED, UM, BUDGET BOOK.
UM, BUT I THINK, UH, AND LOOKING AT THOSE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES, I THINK A LOT HAS CHANGED.
AND I WOULD HOPE THAT SOME, AT LEAST SOME THINGS HAVE CHANGED WITH THE PRESENCE OF, OF THE NEW CITY MANAGER.
UM, AND, AND THAT IS ONE, AND I, I THINK ABOUT MY HISTORY AND, AND WORKING HERE WITH THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY, UH, WHEN I WAS, UM, WORKING FOR THE, THE, THE NOW FORMER COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION, COMMISSION REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY, UH, FROM 1996 TO TO 2006, WHERE I ENDED, UH, THAT, THAT CAREER, THAT PORTION OF MY CAREER AS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE COMMISSION, UM, WE, WE WORKED A LOT ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
WE WORKED A LOT ON BUILDING THE TAX BASE.
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IT WAS ALMOST, I ALWAYS, IT WAS IN A TUNNEL.I I NEVER REALLY THOUGHT THAT MUCH ABOUT THE CITY BUDGET.
I WORKED FOR THE, THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL ACTING AS THE CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS OF THE CDC.
AND WE WERE REALLY FOCUSED ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
UM, WE WERE FOCUSED ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND, YOU KNOW, THOSE MISSIONS, AND WE DID BRING IN A LOT OF REVENUE.
A LOT OF THE THINGS WE DID, UH, BUSINESSES, WE BROUGHT IN A LOT OF REVENUE.
WELL, NOW I'M THE CITY MANAGER, DIDN'T EXPECT THAT.
AND SO NOW I'M SAYING, OH YEAH, I GOTTA THINK ABOUT BOTH SIDES.
YOU KNOW, I CAN'T JUST ACT BLINDLY AND TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THROWING TOUCHDOWNS, YOU KNOW, UH, REVENUE TOUCHDOWNS.
I GOTTA WORRY ABOUT EXPENDITURES AND THOSE OTHER THINGS.
SO, BUT I, I THINK SOMETHING THAT IS SORT OF MISSING AND, AND, AND IT'S MISSING NOW IN, IN THE PAST FEW YEARS, AND PERHAPS EVEN SINCE I LEFT, IS, UH, MAYBE SINCE THE CDC, ESSENTIALLY WITH THE DEMISE OF THE CDC AND THE STATE, CALIFORNIA STATE, UH, LEGISLATURE, TAKING AWAY REDEVELOPMENT, UH, POWERS, UH, THE RESHIFT OF THE PROPERTY TAX AND THOSE REVENUES GOING BACK TO SCHOOLS AND OTHER TAXING AGENCIES, IT WAS A BIG HIT FOR THE CITY.
UM, BUT I DON'T KNOW, AGAIN, IF IT'S BLIND FAITH OR IF YOU THOUGHT ABOUT THIS, BUT I THINK IT, AS YOU KNEW, CITY MANAGER, I THINK I NEED TO GET BACK TO SOME OF THE BUSINESS I USED TO BE DOING, UM, FOR THE CITY, WHICH IS REVENUE ENHANCEMENT, WHICH IS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
UM, I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE THE FOCUS.
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE BUDGET AS WE PROCEED, UH, TONIGHT AND OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL COUPLE YEARS, IT'S NOT GONNA BE AN EASY BUDGET TIME.
UM, WE NEED TO IMPROVE OUR REVENUES.
UM, EXPENDITURES JUST KEEP RISING.
UM, AND, UM, SO YEAH, I, I THINK, UH, IN REFLECTION, UM, WE NEED TO GET BACK TO, AND THAT'S WHY I WROTE HERE, WE NEED TO EXPAND REVENUES TO MEET GROWING EXPENDITURES.
AND I THINK WE NEED TO DO IT THROUGH, THROUGH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS AND PROGRAMS. ONE LAST NOTE ON THAT.
WE CAN'T DO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IF OUR TEAM, OUR CITY HALL TEAM IS NOT READY FOR IT.
THE LAST THING WE'D WANNA DO IS, IS PROMOTE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND INVESTMENT IN OUR CITY AND NOT BE ABLE TO PROCESS PERMITS, ET CETERA.
WELL, WE'VE MADE A LOT OF RECENT CHANGES THAT I, I THINK, UH, WE'RE GONNA DO A PRESENTATION, NOT TOO DISTANT FUTURE ON OUR BUILDING DIVISION.
FOR, FOR ONE EXAMPLE, WE HAVE TRANSFORMED OUR BUILDING DIVISION.
THE PUBLIC DOESN'T KNOW THAT YET, BUT WE HAVE TRANSFORMED OUR BUILDING DIVISION.
SO, UM, NOW, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT PERFECT, BUT WE ARE, WE'RE SERVICING, UM, THE COMMUNITY NOW AND, AND, AND, UH, ENCOURAGING DEVELOPMENT SO THAT, THAT NEEDED TO BE TAKEN CARE OF AS WELL.
AND SO I REALLY SEE THAT AS KIND OF THE FOCUS, MY FOCUS, YOU KNOW, AMONGST THE MANY OTHER THINGS I WORK ON.
BUT THE MAIN FOCUS IS IMPROVING THE CITY HALL TEAM AND THE DELIVERY OF SERVICES AND FOCUSING ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND REVENUE, UH, GENERATION.
UM, AND THAT MEANS WE NEED TO BECOME BUSINESS FRIENDLY.
UM, IN LOS ANGELES COUNTY, THEY HAVE A, A AWARD CALLED THE MOST BUSINESS FRIENDLY CITY AWARD IN LA COUNTY.
I WORKED FOR A CITY WHERE IT TOOK FIVE YEARS, BUT WE WON THAT AWARD AND WE WERE NOT BUSINESS FRIENDLY.
WELL, LET'S EITHER CREATE THAT AWARD HERE IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY, UM, OR JUST FORGET ABOUT THE WARD ALTOGETHER, BUT WE JUST NEED TO DO IT.
UM, UM, BECAUSE IT'S JUST VITALLY IT'S CRITICALLY IMPORTANT TO OUR SUCCESS HERE.
UM, WITH THAT, IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS, I'D LIKE TO PASS IT TO, UH, PAUL VALEZ, OUR BUDGET MANAGER.
UH, GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR MORRISON, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, PAUL VALDEZ, BUDGET MANAGER.
AND TODAY I'LL BE GOING THROUGH SOME SLIDES THAT GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF THE PRELIMINARY BUDGET, AS WELL AS AN UPDATE TO THE FIVE YEAR FORECAST.
THIS FIRST SLIDE SHOWS THE FY 25 PRELIMINARY REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES BY FUND TYPE FOR ALL FUNDS, AS WELL AS ANY PLANNED USE OR GAIN AND FUND BALANCE.
THE INFORMATION ON THIS SLIDE IS USED TO INFORM THE FIRST COLUMN ON THE FOLLOWING SLIDE.
SO THIS SLIDE COMPARES AT A HIGH LEVEL THE FY 25 PRELIMINARY INFORMATION FROM THE PREVIOUS SLIDE TO THE ALL FUNDS REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES FROM THE FY 24 ADOPTED BUDGET.
AGAIN, THIS IS JUST AT A HIGH LEVEL FOR ALL FUNDS.
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THIS IS A GRAPHIC REPRESENTATION OF THE PERCENTAGE OF EXPENDITURES BY FUND TYPE, UH, FOR YOUR INFORMATION.THE INTERNAL SERVICE FUNDS REPRESENT EXPENDITURES THAT ARE ALLOCATED THROUGHOUT THE CITY, SUCH AS INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY, FACILITIES, MAINTENANCE, PUBLIC LIABILITY, AND VEHICLE REPLACEMENT, LEASING AND MAINTENANCE CHARGES.
THE OTHER FUND'S CATEGORY IS MADE UP PRIMARILY OF GAS TAX, TRANSNET, LIBRARY AND PARKS FUNDS.
MOVING ON TO THE GENERAL FUND, THE SLIDE IS A COMPARISON BETWEEN THE PRELIMINARY GENERAL FUND REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES FOR THE FY 25 PRELIMINARY BUDGET VERSUS THE FY 24 ADOPTED BUDGET.
IT INCLUDES INCREASES FOR COST OF LIVING, ADJUSTMENTS, RETIREMENT HEALTH INCREASES, INCREASED STAFFING LEVELS, AS WELL AS GENERAL, UH, GENERAL EXPENDITURE, GENERAL COST INCREASES.
IT ALSO INCLUDES BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS SUBMITTED BY A DEPARTMENT SEEN AS CRITICAL FOR THEIR OPERATIONS.
AND THAT HAS BEEN, I BELIEVE, DISTRIBUTED AS A HANDOUT.
AS YOU CAN SEE IN THAT FIRST COLUMN, WE ARE ESTIMATING A USE OF FUND BALANCE OF 6.8 MILLION FOR FISCAL YEAR 25.
OTHER THAN THE ITEMS I JUST MENTIONED, THERE ARE SOME, UM, LARGE ITEMS THAT GO INTO THE, TO THE, UH, INTO MAKING UP THIS GAP.
UH, THE FIRST WAS THE END OF ARPA.
THERE WAS A $1 MILLION DECREASE IN OVER, UH, THE LEVEL OF SALES TAX REVENUE, UM, THAT WAS ESTIMATED FOR FY 24.
WE ARE RESUMING THE PAYMENT OF UNFOUNDED LIABILITY TO PERS.
LAST YEAR, WE TOOK, UH, ONE YEAR OFF DUE TO THE RE UH, REFINANCING OF, UH, PENSION OBLIGATION BONDS, BONDS.
UH, WE HAVE TO RESUME THAT THIS YEAR TO THE TUNE OF ABOUT 750,000 IN THE GENERAL FUND.
AND THEN THERE WAS ALSO THE EXPIRATION OF THE SAFER GRANT, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY $500,000, WHICH WENT TO FUNDING, UH, SOME OF OUR FIREFIGHTERS.
THE SLIDES THAT FOLLOW WILL PROVIDE ADDITIONAL DETAILS BY CATEGORY FOR THE REVENUE AND EXPENDITURES.
THE SLIDE SHOWS THE SAME EXPENDITURE INFORMATION CONTIN CONTAINED ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, BROKEN DOWN BY THE VARIOUS EXPENDITURE CATEGORIES.
AS I MENTIONED, THE PERSONNEL SERVICES INCREASES DUE TO COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENTS, RETIREMENT AND HEALTH INCREASES AS WELL, AND INCREASED STAFFING LEVELS BETWEEN THE FY 24 ADOPTED AND FY 25 PRELIMINARY BUDGETS, M AND O COSTS ARE PROJECTED TO REMAIN RELATIVELY FLAT.
THIS CATEGORY IS MADE UP OF PROFESSIONAL AND CONTRACT SERVICES, AS WELL AS OTHER COSTS NECESSARY FOR THE CITY'S OPERATIONS.
A MODEST INCREASE FOR EQUIPMENT COSTS, UH, IS FOR EQUIPMENT SUCH AS COMPUTERS, COMMUNICATIONS EQUIPMENT, AND PUBLIC SAFETY EQUIPMENT.
THE INCREASE IN INTERNAL SERVICE CHARGES IS MOSTLY ATTRIBUTABLE TO INCREASED ALLOCATION OF THE PUBLIC LIABILITY FUND.
LAST YEAR DECISION WAS MADE TO SCALE BACK THE ALLOCATION AND RELY ON FUND BALANCE.
HOWEVER, THIS YEAR REPRESENTS A FULL ALLOCATION OF THE ANTICIPATED FY 25 PUBLIC LIABILITY EXPENDITURES.
OH, THAT, WHAT'S BACK? AND, UH, THE TRANSFERS OUT ARE FOR SUBSIDIES OF $1.6 MILLION TO THE LIBRARY FUND, 1.1 MILLION TO THE PARKS FUND, 270,000 TO THE NUTRITION CENTER, AND 360,000 FOR RETIREE HEALTH BENEFITS.
THE SLIDE SHOWS THE INCREASE IN GENERAL EXPENDITURES OVER THE PAST DECADE OR SO.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE, PERSONNEL SERVICES IS THE LARGEST COMPONENT AND, UH, COMPRISES OVER 65% OF THE GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES IN THE FISCAL YEAR.
HERE ARE THE GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES BY DEPARTMENT REPRESENTED GRAPHICALLY WITH PUBLIC SAFETY BEING, UH, POLICE AND FIRE MAKING UP OVER 63%
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OF THE BUDGET.MOVING ON TO SLIDE 15, I DID WANNA MAKE A COMMENT ON THIS SLIDE.
ANYBODY WHO, UH, PRINTED THIS SLIDE OUT AS SOON AS IT WAS POSTED, A TYPOGRAPHICAL ERROR WAS FOUND IN COLUMN, UH, THE MIDDLE COLUMN FY 24 ADOPTED.
IT WAS, UH, IT DIDN'T FLOW THROUGH TO THE CHANGE COLUMNS OR THE TOTAL COLUMNS.
AND I BELIEVE THE CITY CLERK HAS POSTED THE CORRECTED SLIDE.
AND THESE NUMBERS SHOWN HERE ARE, UH, ARE THE CORRECT NUMBERS.
SO ON THE REVENUE SIDE, YOU COULD SEE THAT, UH, ON THE REVENUE SIDE, THERE'S BEEN A DECREASE IN THE AMOUNT BUDGETED FOR, UH, FOR SALES TAX.
AS MENTIONED EARLIER, THIS IS BASED ON THE INFORMATION FROM OUR SALES TAX CONSULTANT, HDL.
AND, UH, THIS IS DUE TO THE CONTINUED TREND OF LOWER THAN EXPECTED RECEIPTS IN AUTO SALES, GENERAL CONSUMER GOODS, AND THE CITY'S PORTION OF SHARED REVENUE POOLS.
THIS IS SOMEWHAT MADE UP FOR BY AN ESTIMATED INCREASE IN DISTRICT AND USE TAX.
SO IF WE WERE COMBINE THOSE TWO CATEGORIES, WE'RE ACTUALLY, UH, INCREASING THE SALES TAX RELATED CATEGORIES BY A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.
PROPERTY TAX AND PROPERTY TAX IN LIEU ARE BASED ON VALUATION REPORTS PROVIDED BY THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO.
AND THE OTHER REVENUES CATEGORY IS PRIMARILY PROGRAM REVENUES FROM, UH, FROM DEPARTMENTS ALL ACROSS THE CITY.
THE 5,500, UH, I'D REALLY LIKE TO POINT OUT, YOU CAN SEE THE, UH, THAT'S WHERE THE ARPA REDUCTION IS SHOWN.
UH, WE'RE NO LONGER RECEIVING THAT $2 MILLION FROM THE APA FUND THAT REMAINING $5,500 IS, IS, UH, HAS TO DO WITH A, UH, MAINTENANCE DISTRICT FOR THE MILE OF CARS.
HERE ARE THE HISTORICAL, UH, GENERAL FUND REVENUE OVER THE PAST DECADE.
IF YOU LOOK ON THE, THE RIGHT TWO COLUMNS, YOU CAN SEE THAT ORANGE SLOT GO AWAY.
AGAIN, THAT IS THE, UH, THAT REPRESENTS THE ARPA FUNDING GOING AWAY.
AND HERE ARE THE GENERAL FUND REVENUES BY CATEGORY REPRESENTED GRAPHICALLY.
SO TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THAT, UH, 6.88 MILLION USE OF UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE IN THE PRELIMINARY BUDGET.
HERE'S THE IMPACT ON THE UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE.
SO STARTING WITH THE UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE, UH, AND THESE ARE ESTIMATED OF JUNE 30TH, 2023.
THE MID-YEAR REPORT THAT, UH, CAME BEFORE COUNCIL IN APRIL ESTIMATED THE USE OF FUND BALANCE, UH, OF $500,000.
AND THIS IS ACTUALLY A REDUCTION FROM WHAT WAS, UH, ESTIMATED IN THE FY 24 ADOPTED BUDGET, WHERE WE ESTIMATED ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS.
SO, UH, WITH THE REVISED PROJECTIONS, WE'RE ESTIMATING USING ONLY 500,000 FOR 24.
OF COURSE, WE'LL COME FORWARD, UH, THIRD QUARTER REPORT AND GIVE A UPDATED NUMBER THERE.
SO THE PROTECTED BALANCE AS OF 6 30 24 IS 22.6 MILLION.
AND THEN FACTORING IN THAT ESTIMATED USE OF FUND BALANCE IN THE FY 25 PRELIMINARY BUDGET OF 6.8 MILLION, LEAVES US WITH A PROJECTED UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE OF, UH, ON JUNE 30TH, 2024 OF 15.8 MILLION.
LOOKING AT IT IN TERMS OF OUR POLICY, THE PROJECTED BALANCE ON 6 30, 20 24 OF 22.6 MILLION, IF WE TOOK 10% OF THE OPERATING FY 25 EXPENDITURES, UH, OF 7.5 MILLION, THAT MEANS AT THE END OF 25 OR, UH, WE'D STILL BE OVER THE POLICY BY 15.1 MILLION.
NOW, WE GET INTO THE FIVE YEAR FORECAST.
AND THE FIVE YEAR FORECAST USES THE PRELIMINARY, WELL, LET ME, LET ME GO THROUGH THESE HERE.
THESE ARE JUST THE FUND BALANCE CATEGORIES.
UH, THE ONE WHERE OUR EXPENDITURES AND
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REVENUES, UH, WHERE THOSE IMPACT IS THE UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE.SO I'M NOT GONNA READ THROUGH ALL OF THESE, UM, BUT THESE ARE THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES OF FUND BALANCE.
AND AS A REMINDER, THIS IS THE COUNCIL POLICY 2 0 1, WHICH JUST STATES THAT THE, UH, TARGET IS 10% OF THE OPERATING BUDGET.
HERE ARE THE CURRENT RESERVES, THE TARGET, AND THE CURRENT BALANCE FOR EACH OF THE RESERVES.
SO AGAIN, THE UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE IS 23.1 MILLION.
AND THEN ALSO FOR THE GENERAL FUND IS THAT ECONOMIC CONTINGENCY RESERVE OF 12.8 MILLION, ALONG WITH THE TARGETS FOR EACH OF THE INDIVIDUAL RESERVE FUNDS.
SO USING THE PRELIMINARY 25 AS A BASE, THE PROJECTIONS IN THE FORECAST ARE BASED ON CURRENT ECONOMIC INDICATORS, HISTORICAL TRENDS, INDUSTRY RESEARCH, INFORMATION FROM THE CITY'S PROPERTY TAX AND SALES TAX CONSULTANTS, AND THE KNOWLEDGE OF CITY STAFF.
SO IF ALL OF THE INFORMATION THAT WE PUT INTO THE FORECAST WERE TO, UH, COME TO FRUITION, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE, UH, UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE, WHICH IS REPRESENTED BY THE YELLOW BAR, WOULD FALL BELOW THE, UH, THE TARGET TARGET POLICY NUMBER BY FY 27, AND THEN BE FULLY DEPLETED BY 28 AND 29.
SO WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT THAT? HERE'S OUR MAIN SOURCE OF REVENUE, WHICH IS SALES TAX REVENUE.
THIS IS SHOWING THE SALES TAX AND THE DISTRICT USE TAX, UH, FROM 2006, WHICH WAS THE INCEPTION OF THE DISTRICT USE TAX.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, SALES TAX, UH, EVER SINCE THE, UH, THE RECESSION, THERE WAS A STEADY CLIMB, STEADY CLIMB, STEADY CLIMB A DIP FOR COVID, A REBOUND, WHICH IS ACTUALLY QUICKER THAN WE HAD ANTICIPATED, UM, RECOVERY WISE.
AND THEN AS YOU CAN SEE, THAT SALES TAX KIND OF LEVELS OFF.
SO THIS LEVELING OFF OF SALES TAX IS ACTUALLY INCORPORATED INTO THE FORECAST.
AND IF WE SEE A, A RETURN TO STEADY PROGRESS IN, UM, IN SALES TAX REVENUE, THAT COULD BE ONE OF THE SOLUTIONS.
ALTHOUGH THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS WE CAN DO TO IMPACT SALES TAX FOR THE MOST PART, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S OUT OF OUR HANDS.
BUT ON THE NEXT SLIDE HERE, HERE ARE SOME MI MITIGATION FACTORS THAT MAY COME INTO PLAY WHEN TRYING TO, UM, AVOID THE USE OF ALL OF THAT UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE.
THE FIRST IS MASTER FEE AND DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEE STUDIES.
UH, THE, TO PUT A DOLLAR ON THAT, UH, AMOUNT ON THAT REVENUE, UM, IT'S TOO, TOO EARLY TO, TO ACTUALLY ASSIGN A VALUE TO THAT.
UH, BUT WHAT I CAN SAY IS THAT THE LAST FULL UPDATE WAS IN 2018.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SIX, SIX YEARS AGO.
AND A LOT CAN CHANGE IN SIX YEARS.
A LOT HAS CHANGED, UM, JUST IN, YOU KNOW, SALARIES AND BENEFITS FOR STAFF, AS WELL AS OTHER, UH, COST INCREASES.
UH, POTENTIALLY LOOKING AT WAYS TO INCREASE THAT TOT TAX, WHICH IS CURRENTLY AT 10%.
UM, ALTHOUGH CANNABIS REVENUES ARE INCLUDED IN THE FORECAST, THEY'RE VERY, UH, VERY CONSERVATIVE NUMBERS.
SO DEPENDING UPON, UH, WHERE, UH, WHERE THAT GOES, WHEN THAT PROGRAM REALLY TAKES OFF, UH, THERE'S A POTENTIAL FOR THAT TO BE, UH, INCREASED AND KIND OF CLOSE THAT GAP A LITTLE BIT.
THE NEXT ITEM ON THE LINE ON, UH, THE BULLET POINT THERE IS REDUCED USE OF CONTRACT SERVICES THAT WOULD COME ALONG WITH, UH, THE ADDITIONAL STAFFING THAT'S BEEN ADDED OVER THE PAST, YOU KNOW, COUPLE YEARS.
SO ONCE WE ARE FULLY STAFFED, ONCE WE FILL THOSE POSITIONS, UH, KIND OF STANDS TO REASON THAT WE CAN, UH, KIND OF REDUCE OUR RELIANCE ON THOSE CONTRACTUAL SERVICES.
WE'RE ALSO EXAMINING WAYS TO ENHANCE REVENUES FROM THE PORT OF SAN DIEGO TO PERFORM THAT TAKES, AS WELL AS JUST GENERAL INCREASED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES.
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AND THAT'S THE, UH, THAT'S THE OPERATIONS PORTION OF THE PRESENTATION.I CAN TURN IT OVER TO OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, STEVE MANGI.
UM, JUST THINKING THAT WAS A LOT OF INFORMATION.
IF MAYBE YOU WANT TO GIVE COUNSEL AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS ON THAT BEFORE WE DIVE INTO THE CIP.
UH, 'CAUSE I HAVE ABOUT 20 SLIDES ON THE CIP, BUT I'LL LEAVE THAT UP TO THE COUNSEL.
LET ME ASK YOU ON THE FIRST PART, WHICH IS THE ECONOMIC FORECASTING.
ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME OR, OKAY.
MEMBER, MEMBER BUSH, UM, IS, IS IT STANDARD PRACTICE TO DO THE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, I REMEMBER BRING THIS UP WITH THE VICE MAYOR, THAT HAVING FY 25 COME BEFORE, UH, BEING ON A COLUMN TO THE LEFT, LIKE OF FY 24.
IS THAT, IS THAT LIKE STANDARD? UH, THE ONLY REASON I ASK IS IT REALLY IS CONFUSING TO ME IS BACKWARDS.
WE DID, WE DID ACTUALLY DISCUSS THAT.
UH, AND THERE IS NO STANDARD, AND SO WE JUST KEPT WITH THE FORMAT THAT WAS IN, IN EXISTENCE, AND I KNOW WE'VE, WE'VE KIND OF HEARD BOTH WAYS TO, UH, DISPLAY IT ONE WAY OR DISPLAY IT THE OTHER.
THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY REASON.
IT'S, I MEAN, THAT'S JUST FOR ME, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ANY OF MY COLLEAGUES THINK.
I'D RATHER HAVE IT BE LEFT TO RIGHT, UH, CHRONOLOGICALLY THAT'S LIKE JUST HOW MY BRAIN WORKS.
BUT I, I DON'T THINK THAT'S A, A BIG DEAL.
I WAS JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THAT.
'CAUSE I KNOW WE, UH, BROUGHT THAT UP BEFORE.
UM, THE, UM, SO ON THE MITIGATION FACTORS, IF YOU CAN GO BACK TO, UH, PAGE 26, UH, THIS SLIDE.
UM, SO, UM, DO WE HAVE ANY PRELIMINARY FIGURES FOR ANY OF THESE BULLET POINTS? WE, WE HAVEN'T ASSIGNED DOLLAR FIGURES TO ANY OF THESE BULLET POINTS.
UM, AND THESE ARE NOT AT ALL FACTORED INTO THE FORECAST, RIGHT? BECAUSE THERE'S NO NUMBERS, SO THEREFORE THERE'S NOTHING TO FACTOR IN.
THERE IS, THERE IS A VERY CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE FOR CANNABIS REVENUES BUILT INTO THE FORECAST.
UM, WHAT IS THAT BY THE WAY? UH, FOR 25, I BELIEVE IT WAS 125,000, AND THEN IT SLOWLY RAMPS UP FROM THERE.
UH, BUT AS MORE INFORMATION COMES IN, WE'LL, YOU KNOW, ADJUST THOSE ACCORDING.
UM,
ON, UM, PAGE 18, THE IMPACT ON THE UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE, FISCAL, FISCAL YEAR 2025.
UM, CAN YOU TELL ME AGAIN, THE ESTIMATED USE OF THE PRELIMINARY BUDGET IS, UM, 6.8 MILLION.
CAN YOU TELL ME AGAIN WHAT THAT'S FOR? UH, I THINK I HEARD YOU MENTION THAT SIX POINT, THAT 6.8 MILLION IS THE ANTICIPATED GAP BETWEEN REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES FOR FY 25.
SO IT'S MADE UP OF, YOU KNOW, WE BUILT EVERYTHING IN AS FAR AS, UH, COAL INCREASES, ANY SORT OF, UH, PERS INCREASES, HEALTH INSURANCE INCREASES.
UH, IT ALSO BUILDS IN THE FACT THAT WE, THE REASON WHY IT'S SO HIGH IS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T BRING IN THAT ARPA REVENUE.
UM, THE $1 MILLION IN SALES TAX, UH, PROJECTION, UH, DECREASE THE, UH, THE SAFER GRANT WENT AWAY.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF FACTORS THAT GO INTO THAT 6.8 MILLION.
BUT, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT EXPENDITURES ARE ANTICIPATED TO EXCEED REVENUES BY THAT $6.8 MILLION IN THE 25 PRELIMINARY.
WE'LL GO WITH, UH, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? OKAY.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO THANK THE STAFF THROUGH OUR CITY MANAGER FOR, UM, DIVING INTO THIS PRELIMINARY BUDGET.
UM, I HAD A EXTENSIVE BRIEFING WITH THEM EARLIER.
UM, AND I HAD MY QUESTIONS TO MR. PAUL VALDES AND PHIL DAVIS OF THE THINGS THAT I WANTED TO SEE COMING BACK, FOR EXAMPLE, THE MITIGATION OF PERSONAL SERVICES, WHICH IS ABOUT 65% OF OUR GENERAL FUND.
UM, I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE LIST THAT I HAVE INDICATED, UH, TO OUR CITY MANAGER TO COME BACK WHEN, UM, THE, UH, THE NEXT, UH, BRIEFING WILL COME.
COULD, COULD WE HOLD RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST ASKING THE QUESTIONS ON THE, ON THE PRESENTATION? YES.
WE'LL GET TO COMMENTS AFTER WE GOT, WE STILL GOT CIP YET? NO, THESE ARE PRESENTATIONS BASED ON THE OPERATIONS.
I KNOW, BUT IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT IT, BUT COMMENTS THAT WE'LL HAVE THAT WILL COME, THAT WILL COME AFTER WE HEAR THE CIP.
SO YOU DON'T WANT ME TO ASK THE QUESTIONS? IF YOU GOT A QUESTION, IF YOU WILL GIMME TIME.
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I, OKAY.BUT YOU WERE JUST SAYING THE STUFF YOU WANT COME BACK.
BUT, UM, THE QUESTIONS OF PIGGYBACKING TO THE QUESTION OF COUNCIL MEMBER BUSH MM-HMM.
SO, UM, MR. ADES HAD GIVEN ME AN ANSWER EARLIER, BUT I JUST WANTED THAT IN RECORD.
SO THEN WHEN IT COMES, COMES BACK.
IT WILL, IT WILL BE, UM, RECORDED.
I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE FIGURES HERE THAT WERE CORRECTED.
SO, UM, YOU SAID THAT BECAUSE IT DIDN'T TRANSLATE EARLIER, IT WAS A TYPOGRAPHICAL ERROR ON SLIDE 15.
SO ON THE GRAND TOTALS AND ON THE CHANGE COLUMN, IT DIDN'T IMPACT THOSE.
IT WAS JUST ON THE FY 24 ADOPTED.
THANK YOU MR. MAYOR, JUST A COUPLE OF CLARIFYING QUESTIONS ON SLIDE NUMBER 23.
WE'RE THE CURRENT RESERVE LIST.
IS THERE A REASON THERE ARE DISCREPANCIES BETWEEN THE TARGET AND THE BALANCE AMOUNT? AND I, I SAY THAT BECAUSE, AND I KNOW THAT WE ADJUST IT DURING EVERY FISCAL, UH, CYCLE.
BUT A AS AN EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, THE LIABILITY RESERVE BEING EXCEEDING THE TARGET RATE OR THE PENSION TRUST FUND DRASTICALLY, UM, BEING UNDERFUNDED, WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE RATIONALE FOR NOT, UH, ADJUSTING SOME OF THOSE FIGURES THROUGHOUT THE YEAR? OR, OR IS IT SOMETHING THAT YOU NEED DIRECT COUNCIL DIRECTION TO DO? I AGREE IT WOULD, IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO REVISIT THEM FROM TIME TO TIME AND, AND EITHER, UH, REVISIT THE POLICY OR ALIGN THE CONTRIBUTIONS.
IF THEY'RE UNDERFUNDED, THAT WOULD MEAN THAT, UH, WE JUST DIDN'T, UH, MAKE A CONTRIBUTION OR THAT THE PLAN WAS TO OVER TIME, RAMP UP TO THAT, UH, TARGET LEVEL.
OUT OF THIS PAST, OR, OR THIS IS THE PROJECTED FISCAL, THE CURRENT, UH, RESERVES, BUT SO, SO AS AN EXAMPLE, THE LIABILITY RESERVE, WHICH IS ABOUT $3 MILLION OVER THE TARGET.
UM, I WOULD LOVE TO GET A LITTLE MORE INSIGHT AS TO HOW WE GOT THERE AND IF THOSE FUNDS COULD BE USED AS MITIGATING IMPACTS FOR OTHER PROJECTS, LIKE THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT PRIORITIES THAT EXCEED THE EXPECTED AMOUNTS.
SOME, LIKE, HOW DID WE GET HERE AND HOW DO WE BETTER TRY TO HIT OUR TARGETS? WHETHER IT'S THE LIABILITY RESERVE OR THE PENSION TRUST.
LIKE HOW DO WE, WE MAKE SURE THAT WE TRY TO HIT THOSE TARGETS ALL THE TIME AND ADJUST THEM ACCORDINGLY.
WHEN'S THE TIME TO ADJUST? YEAH, WE'LL DO THAT.
AND, AND NONE OF THIS WAS AS A RESULT OF A SINGLE YEAR.
THIS IS, UH, THE RESULT OF, LIKE YOU SAID, UM, HOW DID WE GET THERE? SO WE NEED TO, UH, LOOK INTO THAT AND, AND GET BACK TO YOU.
AND THEN YOU MENTIONED THERE WERE SOME MITIGATING FACTORS, RIGHT? UM, UH, I ONLY CAUGHT THE SAFER GRANT AND, UH, CALPERS, CAN YOU GO OVER THE OTHER MITIGATING FACTORS THAT LED TO, UM, BELOW THAN EXPECTED REVENUE? UH, WELL, THE, THE MAIN ONE WAS THE, UH, UH, ARPA.
WE HAD BEEN GETTING, YOU KNOW, FUNDING OVER THE PAST, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS, THREE OR FOUR YEARS, BUT LAST YEAR WAS THE FINAL YEAR, AND THAT WAS $2 MILLION.
AND THEN THE OTHER ONE THAT YOU, UH, THE OTHER ONE THAT I MENTIONED WAS THE, UH, UNFUNDED LIABILITY PAYMENT TO CALPERS.
AND WE DID NOT HAVE THAT PAYMENT LAST YEAR BECAUSE WE DID THE POB UH, PENSION OBLIGATION BOND REFUNDING.
SO WE SKIPPED A YEAR OF THAT PAYMENT IN 25 THAT WE NEED TO RESUME MAKING THOSE PAYMENTS.
AND THE GENERAL FUND PORTION OF THAT IS APPROXIMATELY $750,000.
AND YOU MENTIONED SOME SALES TAX, THE OTHER ITEM WAS SALES TAX MILLION DOWN AND THE SAFER GRANT, THE THREE FIREFIGHTERS THAT
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GRANT EXPIRED, THAT'S A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS.UM, NO, THANK YOU FOR THOSE CLARIFYING QUESTIONS.
UM, UH, I KNOW WE HAD A BRIEFING ABOUT THIS IN A SLIGHT DISCUSSION, BUT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO GO OVER SOME OF THE DETAILS MAYBE OFFLINE SO WE CAN BE BETTER INFORMED AS WE'RE COMING TO, YOU KNOW, THE COUNCIL MEETINGS THERE, THE UPCOMING DISCUSSIONS.
WE WILL GO AHEAD AND PROCEED WITH THE NEXT, UH, PORTION OF THE PRESENTATION, WHICH IS NATIONAL CITY'S CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, UH, PROGRAM.
SO STEVE MANGANELLI, I'M THE DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING AND PUBLIC WORKS, AND OUR DEPARTMENT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ADMINISTERING AND DELIVERING OUR CIP.
SO A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND.
UH, THE PURPOSE OF OUR CIP IS TO EVALUATE, PRIORITIZE, AND IDENTIFY FUNDING OPTIONS FOR THE REPAIR, REPLACEMENT AND EXPANSION OF THE CITY'S PHYSICAL INFRASTRUCTURE FACILITIES IN PARKS.
UH, YEARS AGO, WE MADE A DECISION TO ALSO, UH, INCORPORATE OUR VEHICLE FLEET AS PART OF THE CIP PRESENTATION, UM, AND PROGRAMMING FOR BUDGETARY PURPOSES.
UH, MAIN REASON FOR THAT IS WE GO THROUGH A SIMILAR PROCESS WITH WORKING WITH INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENTS TO UNDERSTAND THEIR NEEDS, HOW TO SUPPORT OPERATIONS, AND, UM, AND SOME OF THE, THE FUNDING AND RESERVES ARE ALSO ESTABLISHED TO MAKE SURE THAT SIMILAR TO CAPITAL PROJECTS, WHERE WE ARE LOOKING TO PRIORITIZE NEEDS FOR THE COMMUNITY, UM, BY PRIORITIZING OUR FLEET, WE'RE ABLE TO, UH, CONTINUE TO OPERATE AT, AT A HIGH SERVICE LEVEL, WHICH ULTIMATELY, UH, AGAIN, IS TO PROVIDE THOSE ESSENTIAL SERVICES TO OUR COMMUNITY, AND MAKING SURE THAT OUR STAFF, INCLUDING OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, FIRE DEPARTMENT, PUBLIC WORKS, HAVE ACCESS TO, UM, UH, THE EQUIPMENT THAT THEY NEED TO PERFORM THEIR JOBS AT A HIGH LEVEL.
SO THE PROCESS, IT'S A, IT'S A SLIDING FIVE YEAR BUDGETING PROCESS FOR THE FIRST YEAR OF THE FIVE YEAR PROGRAM REPRESENTS THE APPROVED CAPITAL BUDGET, WHICH IS INCORPORATED INTO THE CITY'S ANNUAL BUDGET.
UH, PROJECTS PROGRAM FOR SUBSEQUENT YEARS ARE FOR PLANNING PURPOSES ONLY, AND DO NOT RECEIVE EXPENDITURE AUTHORITY AT THIS TIME.
WE DEVELOP PROJECTS BASED ON COMMUNITY INPUT NEEDS, ASSESSMENTS, FOCUS STUDIES, AND CONSISTENCY WITH THE CITY'S LONG RANGE PLANS.
AND, UH, A STEP THAT, THAT WE NEED TO TAKE EVERY YEAR BEFORE COUNCIL FORMALLY ADOPTS, IS TO GO TO THE PLANNING, UH, COMMISSION FOR THEM TO PRO TO PROVIDE AN ASSESSMENT OF, UM, CONFORMANCE TO THE GENERAL PLAN.
WE, WE TYPICALLY, UH, STRUCTURE OUR ASSETS INTO, UH, SEVERAL CATEGORIES.
ONE IS INFRASTRUCTURE, WHICH IS OUR, OUR STREETS, OUR SEWERS, OUR DRAINAGE SYSTEMS, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, OUR PARKS AND FACILITIES, UH, WHICH IS ALL OF OUR, UM, CITY, UH, UH, OPERATIONS AND BUILDINGS, OUR COMMUNITY PARKS, OUR RECREATION CENTERS AND AMENITIES.
AND THEN, UH, AS WE MENTIONED, WE, WE DO, UH, COMBINE OUR VEHICLE FLEET WITH, WITH OUR EVALUATIONS.
UM, AND YOU CAN SEE HERE WE HAVE, UM, A WIDE RANGE OF, UM, OF VEHICLES THAT SUPPORT THE VARIOUS NEEDS OF OUR CITY.
AND I WOULD, I WOULD NOTE, UM, YOU KNOW, NATIONAL CITY IS FAIRLY UNIQUE FOR A CITY THIS SIZE, THAT, THAT WE HAVE OUR OWN POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENT.
AND AGAIN, MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO PRIORITIZE AND, AND PERFORM MAINTENANCE AND UPGRADES TO THEIR, UH, VEHICLES AND APPARATUSES IS PARAMOUNT.
AND, YOU KNOW, I DO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE OUR EQUIPMENT MAINTENANCE MECHANICS.
WE, WE ONLY HAVE, UH, THREE RIGHT NOW FOR
SO, UM, OUR CIP PRIORITIZATION PROCESS, IT STARTS WITH, UM, OUR CATEGORIES.
SO WE, WE DEVELOPED A TIER STRUCTURE YEARS AGO WITH TIER ONE BEING PROJECTS THAT WE NEED TO PERFORM ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, AND ALSO URGENT PROJECTS THAT HAVE A DIRECT, UM, NEED, UH, TO, TO, UH, ADDRESS HEALTH AND SAFETY CONCERNS.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE, OUR TIER TWO, THREE AND FOUR BASICALLY JUST START TO, UM, GET PRIORITIZED OVER THE YEARS BASED ON NEEDS, OUR EVALUATION CRITERIA, UH, FIRST AND FOREMOST, PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY, QUALITY OF LIFE SUPPORT FROM
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THE COMMUNITY.AND WE ALSO LOOK AT, UH, COSTS, UH, FOR, TO DELIVER PROJECT AVAILABLE FUNDING.
AND AS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, CONSISTENCY WITH OUR, OUR LONG RANGE PLANNING DOCUMENTS, OUR FUNDING SOURCES.
UM, NATIONAL CITY RELIES HEAVILY ON COMPETITIVE GRANTS, UH, PER CAPITA, I'D ARGUE.
WE, I WOULD ARGUE WE DO BETTER THAN PRETTY MUCH ANY CITY IN, IN THE COUNTY.
UM, AND A BIG PART OF, YOU KNOW, OUR SUCCESS IS, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE ABLE TO DO A LOT IN-HOUSE.
UM, WE, WE RELY ON, IN AND IN RELY ON INDUSTRY PROFESSIONALS TO HELP US WITH THE GRANT APPLICATIONS.
BUT OVER THE YEARS, THE CITY COUNCIL, UM, YOU KNOW, HAS HAD THE FORESIGHT TO SET ASIDE A SMALL AMOUNT OF GENERAL FUND DOLLARS THAT SERVES AS A LOCAL MATCH FOR THESE GRANTS.
UH, ALMOST EVERY COMPETITIVE GRANT WE GO AFTER HAS A LOCAL MATCH REQUIREMENT.
AND, YOU KNOW, LOOKING BACK OVER THE YEARS, WE'RE TYPICALLY RECEIVING ANYWHERE FROM A 10 TO ONE TO A 20 TO ONE RETURN ON INVESTMENT.
SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE WERE TO, UM, APPLY FOR A MILLION DOLLARS IN, IN, UM, CAPITAL GRANT FUNDING, AND WE MATCH A HUNDRED THOUSAND, THAT'S A 10 TO ONE RETURN ON INVESTMENT.
AND, YOU KNOW, OVER THE LAST 15, 20 YEARS, IT'S ALLOWED US TO SECURE OVER A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS IN GRANTS, WHICH MAKES UP A HUGE AMOUNT OF OUR, OUR, UH, CAPITAL PROJECTS.
AND WE'RE GONNA GO INTO A FEW OF THOSE PROJECTS IN THE LATER SLIDES BRIEFLY ON OUR ANNUAL PROJECTS EACH YEAR.
AS PART OF OUR PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM, WE RESURFACE OUR STREETS.
UH, FOR EACH ONE OF THESE, YOU'LL SEE, UM, JUST SOME INFORMATION ABOUT HOW WE DO OUR ASSESSMENTS AND WHAT THE PRIMARY SOURCES OF FUNDING TYPICALLY ARE.
UM, WE NEED TO UP UPSIZE AND REPLACE OUR, OUR SEWERS, UH, PARTICULARLY IN AREAS OF REDEVELOPMENT.
UM, WE HAD, UM, SOME VERY INTENSE STORMS, UH, THIS PAST YEAR.
SO WE ARE ALWAYS IN NEED OF, UH, DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS.
UH, WE'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE AN, UM, AMERICANS WITH DISABILITY ACT TRANSITION PLAN, WHICH WE UPDATE ANNUALLY.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, A PORTION OF OUR GENERAL FUND GOES TO SUPPORTING, UM, ACCESSIBILITY IN THE CITY.
WE TRY TO LEVERAGE THAT WITH OTHER GRANTS.
UM, HE SAW FROM, UM, FROM, UH, PAUL'S PRESENTATION, WE, WE DID CREATE A FACILITIES MAINTENANCE RESERVE, WHICH IN ESSENCE IS FUNDED BY THE GENERAL FUND, BUT IT DOES GIVE US A TARGET TO HELP US, UM, EACH YEAR ADDRESS SOME OF OUR MAJOR MAINTENANCE NEEDS WITH OUR FACILITIES, WHICH ARE AGING.
AND LASTLY, AS WE INCORPORATE OUR FLEET, UM, GOING BACK ABOUT, UH, 10 YEARS NOW, WE, WE STARTED A FLEET MODERNIZATION PROGRAM, WHICH HAS, UH, TRANSITIONED INTO ALSO THE NEED TO ELECTRIFY OUR FLEET TO MEET STATE MANDATES BY 2035.
AND THE, THE PRIMARY FUNDING IS DONE THROUGH, UH, LEASING OR, OR PURCHASING.
UH, THE MAJOR CATEGORIES OF GRANTS THAT WE TYPICALLY GO AFTER AND HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IS RELATED TO TRAFFIC SAFETY, ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION, A VARIETY OF ENVIRONMENTAL GRANTS.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE WERE, WE WERE FORTUNATE TO, TO GET AFTER PROP 68 GRANT TO DO SOME MAJOR ENHANCEMENTS TO L TOON PARK, WHICH SHOULD BE KICKING OFF SOON.
AND ALSO SOME, UH, SMART GROWTH DEVELOPMENT GRANTS.
UH, I'M GONNA GO THROUGH THESE FAIRLY QUICKLY.
UM, WE CAN GO BACK AND HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ON SPECIFIC PROJECTS.
IT'S MAINLY IN HERE FOR, FOR YOUR INFORMATION FOR THE PUBLIC.
UM, WE BASICALLY CATEGORIZED OUR, OUR ACTIVE CIP PROJECTS INTO THOSE THAT ARE COMPLETED, THOSE THAT ARE IN CONSTRUCTION OR GOING OUT TO BID, AND THOSE THAT ARE IN VARIOUS LEVELS OF PLANNING AND DESIGN.
UM, REGARDLESS OF PHASE, THE DATES, THE START AND END DATE ARE THE, UH, CONTRACT CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT AWARD AND COMPLETION DATES FOR THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND THE ESTIMATES FOR THOSE DATES MOVING FORWARD.
SO IF YOU SEE A PROJECT THAT'S IN DESIGN AND YOU SEE A DATE OF AUGUST, 2025, WELL, THAT WILL KIND OF GIVE YOU A SENSE FOR WHERE THE PROJECT IS AS FAR AS DESIGN GOES IN RELATION TO WHEN WE ANTICIPATE IT GOING, UH, BEFORE COUNSEL FOR CONTRACT AWARD.
UH, AS YOU COULD SEE, UH, WE DID HAVE ABOUT, UM, ABOUT 10, 10 OR
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SO PROJECTS, UH, THAT WE WERE ABLE TO COMPLETE THIS, THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.UM, WE HAVE SEVERAL MORE PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THE PROCESS OF GOING OUT TO BID OR ARE CURRENTLY BIDDING.
AND, AND WE WE'LL BE, UM, AWARDING AND STARTING CONSTRUCTION LATER THIS YEAR.
AND THEN WE HAVE A VARIETY OF, OF PROJECTS, AGAIN, THAT COVER, UH, THE VARIOUS DIFFERENT GRANTS AND, UM, INFRASTRUCTURE AND PARKS AND REC CATEGORIES THAT WE PRESENTED EARLIER THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN DESIGN THAT WILL BE LIVE, BE DELIVERED OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS.
SO, I KNOW WE'RE AT A, A A, YOU KNOW, THIS IS OUR FIRST WORKSHOP OR OUR PRELIMINARY, UH, BUDGET WORKSHOP, BUT WE FELT THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO GIVE YOU OUR INITIAL RECOMMENDATION, AGAIN, BASED ON, UM, PROJECT PRIORITIES NEEDS ASSESSMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLETED.
UM, LOOKING AT THIS TABLE, IT'S ACTUALLY BROKEN INTO A FEW SLIDES, BUT WE HAVE OUR PROJECT, THE DESCRIPTION, AND THEN OUR FUNDING SOURCES.
SO THE FIRST TWO COLUMNS ARE GENERAL FUND, BUT WE TYPICALLY BREAK OUT THE FACILITIES MAINTENANCE RESERVE BECAUSE, UH, THAT IS, UH, A SEPARATE CATEGORY THAT, THAT, UM, WE TRY TO FUND TO ADDRESS SPECIFICALLY FACILITY NEEDS.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THE MAJOR NEEDS THAT, AND THESE ARE NEEDS WE HAVE EVERY YEAR, ARE DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS, OUR STREET IMPROVEMENTS, AND OUR FACILITY UPGRADES.
UM, WE ALSO, UH, HERE ARE SHOWING, UM, THE NEED FOR GENERAL FUND FUND MONIES TO, UM, TO INSTALL, UH, PUBLIC RESTROOMS AT PARADISE CREEK EDUCATIONAL PARK.
AND THIS KIND OF PIGGYBACKS ONTO THE PRESENTATION WE GAVE LAST MEETING ABOUT OUR USE OF ARPA FUNDS.
IF, AS YOU RECALL, COUNCIL HAD, UH, INITIALLY ALLOCATED $500,000 FOR THIS RESTROOM THROUGH ARPA, THAT THOSE RESTROOMS ARE TIED TO A MAJOR GRANT PROJECT TO DO FURTHER EXPANSION OF PARADISE CREEK PARK IN THE WETLANDS.
UM, THAT PROJECT WILL LIKELY NOT, UH, BE GOING OUT TO BID UNTIL THE END OF THIS YEAR.
WE HAVE TO OBLIGATE OR CONTRACT ARPA FUNDS BY DECEMBER, 2024, SO TO NOT PUT THOSE FUNDS AT RISK.
UM, THE RECOMMENDATION WE PROVIDED TO COUNCIL UNDER ARPA WAS TO REALLOCATE THOSE TO PROJECTS THAT WE CAN COM THAT WE CAN CONTRACT PRIOR TO THE END OF THIS YEAR AND COME BACK BEFORE YOU AS PART OF OUR CIP BUDGET REQUESTS WITH THAT $500,000 GENERAL FUND, WHICH GIVES US MUCH MORE FLEXIBILITY ON EXPENDITURE TIMELINE.
SO THAT'S WHY THIS PROJECT IS LISTED IN OUR REQUEST FOR FY 2025.
UM, A COUPLE OTHER FUNDING SOURCES TO NOTE.
UM, THE TWO WITH THE ASTERISK ARE OUR SB ONE ROAD MAINTENANCE AND, UH, RECOVERY ACT, UM, GAS TAX ALLOCATION.
OUR PROJECTION FROM THE STATE CONTROLLER'S OFFICE FOR NATIONAL CITY IS THAT WE'LL RECEIVE APPROXIMATELY 1.6 MILLION.
AND ALSO OUR TRANSNET FUNDS, OUR PROJECTION FROM SANDAG IS WE WILL RECEIVE JUST OVER $2 MILLION.
UM, SO THOSE, THE, THE PROGRAMMING OF THOSE PROJECTS WILL BE COMING, UM, IN FRONT OF YOU AT A SUBSEQUENT CITY COUNCIL MEETING IN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO.
SO, UH, IF WE LOOK AT THE BOTTOM LINE, WE ARE, UH, RECOMMENDING $3 MILLION, UM, IN GENERAL FUND FOR THE PROJECTS THAT WERE LISTED ON THESE TWO SLIDES.
UM, IN ADDITION TO, UM, $2 MILLION FOR OUR SEWER SERVICE FUND, WHICH IS AN ANNUAL PROJECT TO UPGRADE OUR SEWER SYSTEMS. AND THEN THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS ON THE FAR RIGHT IS AN INTERNAL SERVICE FUND, UM, WHICH WILL ALLOW US TO CONTINUE TO, UM, UH, REPLACE, UPGRADE AND INSTALL NEW PUBLIC SAFETY CAMERAS THROUGHOUT THE CITY IN COORDINATION WITH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THE LAST FEW SLIDES ARE JUST A QUICK SUMMARY ON OUR VEHICLE FLEET.
UH, WE HAVE 223, WHAT I'LL CALL UNITS.
UH, THOSE ARE CONSISTED OF VEHICLES AND EQUIPMENT.
SO AN EXAMPLE OF LARGE EQUIPMENT WOULD BE, UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE ONE OF OUR, UM, BACKHOES AND LOADERS.
UM, THE VEHICLES ARE THE ONES THAT COULD BE EITHER, UM, POLICE DEPARTMENT, PATROL VEHICLES, UM, IT COULD BE PUBLIC WORKS,
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LIGHT DUTY TRUCKS, HEAVY DUTY TRUCKS, AND IT COULD ALSO BE SOME OF OUR, UM, YOU KNOW, SMALLER VEHICLES THAT ARE, ARE USED FOR INSPECTORS AND, AND OTHER STAFF.UM, WE DID WANT TO HIGHLIGHT AS PART OF OUR TRANSITION PLAN TO ELECTRIC TO MEET THE STATE'S MANDATE.
UH, WE DO HAVE TOTAL OF 26 PLUGIN HYBRID ELECTRICS AND FOUR FULL ELECTRICS THAT, UH, WE, WE LEASE AND WE ACT.
WE ALSO OWN APPROXIMATELY, UM, 12 PLUGIN HYBRID OR, UM, HYBRID ELECTRIC VEHICLES AS WELL.
WE'RE TRYING TO FIT A LOT ON THESE NEXT FEW SLIDES, BUT WE WANTED TO PROVIDE YOU THE DETAILS BY DEPARTMENT, UM, AND BY FUND AND WHETHER OR NOT IT'S A LEASE OR OWN, AND ALSO SOME NOTES ON THE REASONING FOR THE REQUEST.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, UM, WE, SIMILAR TO OUR CIP, WHICH AGAIN IS WHY WE WE PULLED THE FLEET, UH, PROGRAMMING INTO THESE PRESENTATIONS IS WE LOOK AT A FIVE YEAR PLAN.
UH, WE LOOK AT OUR ROTATION SCHEDULES FOR ALL OF OUR VEHICLES, THE USE AND THE OPERATIONS OF THOSE VEHICLES.
AND AS WE START TO ROTATE OUT OLDER VEHICLES WHEN THEY HIT, UM, YOU KNOW, THOSE CYCLES, THAT'S WHEN WE LOOK AT WHAT'S AVAILABLE ON THE MARKET FROM, UH, ELECTRIC OR HYBRID ELECTRIC STANDPOINT.
AND THAT'S HOW WE START TO PHASE THOSE INTO OUR FLEET.
UM, YOU CAN SEE THE COLOR CODING, UH, MANY OF THESE ARE BASED ON THE ROTATION SCHEDULE.
UM, THE ONES IN RED ARE JUST OUTDATED AND NEED TO BE MODERNIZED.
AND THEN WE DO HAVE SOME NEW ADDITIONS THAT COULD BE A RESULT OF NEW POSITIONS THAT ARE CREATED, CREATED OR CHANGES IN OPERATIONAL NEEDS, UH, THAT WERE REQUESTED BY THE DEPARTMENTS TO HELP THEM RUN MORE EFFICIENTLY.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, UM, YOU CAN SEE ACROSS ALL FUNDS, THERE'S TROUBLE, TROUBLE READING THIS ABOUT $2.3 MILLION IN NEEDS FOR OUR FLEET.
UH, THIS IS A COMBINATION OF OUR LEASE PAYMENTS AND, AND, UM, ONE TIME PUR PURCHASES, UM, ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS IS NEEDED, UM, THROUGH THE GENERAL FUND FOR THE FLEET.
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT OUR SEWER FUND IS ALSO MAKING UP A, A FAIRLY LARGE, UM, AMOUNT, UH, THAT CONTRIBUTES TOWARDS ALMOST 50% TOWARDS OUR FLEET NEEDS FOR THIS UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR.
UM, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT, AGAIN, I THINK WE CAN PAUSE AND I'M HAPPY TO, TO GO BACK TO ANY SLIDES OR ASK ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CIP OR THE FLEET.
QUESTIONS ON CIPA LOT OF STUFF HERE.
MR. MANGANELLO, IS THIS AN EXHAUSTIVE LIST OF ALL OF THE CIP PROJECTS OR ARE THERE OTHERS THAT ARE JUST NOT LISTED HERE? UM, THE, THESE ARE THE MAJOR PROJECTS.
SO WE HAVE SMALLER PROJECTS, UM, THAT SOME OF WHICH ARE, WE DO IN-HOUSE WITH OUR PUBLIC WORKS CREWS.
WE HAVE, UM, OTHER PROJECTS THAT, UM, WE'RE ABLE TO USE, UM, UH, DIFFERENT TYPES OF CONTRACTING BECAUSE THEY'RE SMALLER NATURE.
UM, I'LL JUST GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.
WE WERE WORKING WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO REPLACE SOME OF THEIR ROLLUP GATE.
THAT'S A MAJOR MAINTENANCE ITEM.
UM, IT'S STILL BEING FUNDED THROUGH THE CIP, BUT IT'S NOT ALL INCLUSIVE.
WE JUST WANTED TO REALLY HIGHLIGHT FOR THIS PRESENTATION, THE, THE LARGER PROJECTS.
UM, AND THEN ANOTHER QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH, UM, THE GAS TAX.
SO, UM, STARTING I GUESS ON PAGE 41 IS AT LEAST WHEN I CIRCLED IT, UM, I, IS THIS, SO THIS IS REVENUE THAT WE GET FROM THE STATE, RIGHT? UM, ARE YOU ANTICIPATING ANY CHANGE IN WHAT WE EXPECT BECAUSE OF THERE BEING MORE ELECTRIC VEHICLES ON THE ROADS? UM, SO RIGHT NOW, UM, IT'LL BE INTERESTING TO SEE, MY GUESS IS THERE'LL BE NEW LEGISLATION THAT STILL FINDS A WAY WAY TO TAX PEOPLE BASED REGARDLESS OF, OF THE VEHICLE THAT THEY PURCHASE.
BECAUSE YES, IT, IN THEORY, IT WOULD GO DOWN IF YOU START PHASING OUT AUTOMOBILES.
SO THEY'LL LIKELY COME UP WITH A NEW TAX.
AND THE HOPE WOULD BE THAT A, A PROPORTION GOES TO THE LOCAL AGENCIES.
'CAUSE, UM, AS YOU'RE GETTING, THE POINT YOU'RE GETTING AT IS WHETHER THEY'RE ELECTRIC VEHICLES OR, YOU KNOW, UM, FUELED BY GASOLINE, THEY,
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THEY STILL HAVE WEAR AND TEAR ON OUR ROADWAYS.AND PARTICULARLY FOR THE HEAVY DUTY ELECTRIC VEHICLES, THEY'RE ACTUALLY SIGNIFICANTLY, UM, HEAVIER THAN OUR CURRENT TRUCKS.
SO THAT IS GOING TO BE, UM, ADDITIONAL IMPACTS TO OUR ROADS, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WILL NEED TO BE FUNDED AND ACCOUNTED FOR.
UH, AND THEN MY, MY LAST QUESTION, AT LEAST FOR THE TIME BEING ON PAGE 43, UM, UH, I REALLY LIKE THAT YOU HAVE BROKEN OUT, UM, THE ELECTRIC VEHICLES THAT THE CITY ALREADY, YOU KNOW, IS USING.
UM, AND EARLIER IN YOUR, UM, PRESENTATION, YOU SAID THAT WE ARE MOVING TOWARDS MORE ELECTRIFICATION OF THESE VEHICLES.
IS THE PLAN TO BE A HUNDRED PERCENT ELECTRIC, 50% ELECTRIC BY BY, WHEN WAS IT 2035? WELL, THE STATE, THE STATE MANDATES THAT THAT, UM, ALL, ALL AGENCIES NEED TO BE A A HUNDRED PERCENT.
NOW, OBVIOUSLY, THAT WILL BE DEPENDENT ON THE INDUSTRY.
UM, AND, AND THERE WILL, YOU KNOW, TODAY THERE'S A LOT OF OUR, HE HEAVY EQUIPMENT AND SPECIALTY VEHICLES ARE NOT AVAILABLE AS ELECTRIC.
UM, BUT THE INDUSTRY, YOU KNOW, HAS 10 YEARS TO GET THERE.
UM, WE ARE CONSTANTLY GOING TO, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, CONFERENCES, FORUMS, ATTENDING WEBINARS, UM, TRYING TO STAY ON TOP OF THE STATE OF THE PRACTICE FOR ELECTRIC VEHICLE TECH TECHNOLOGY, UH, TALKING TO OUR COUNTERPARTS AT OTHER AGENCIES.
UM, AND AGAIN, A LOT OF THE WORK WE DO IS SPECIALIZED AND IT'S NOT AS EASY AS, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST GOING TO A DEALERSHIP AND MM-HMM.
SO, UM, HOPEFULLY, UM, WITH THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE INDUSTRY WILL CONTINUE TO MAKE, MAKE STRIDES AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO STAY ON TOP OF THAT.
AND, AND OUR GOAL IS TO COME TO YOU WITH RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, FOR VEHICLES THAT CAN MEET OUR OPERATIONAL NEEDS AND ALSO GET US ON THAT PATH TO MEETING THE STATE MANDATES.
UM, UH, I, UM, WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE, YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT, UM, HAVING SOME SORT OF CITY PLAN FOR HOW TO BECOME, UH, FULLY ELECTRIC BY 2035.
UM, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU KNOW PART OF THE STATE, YOU KNOW, SAYING, OH, WE ALL HAVE TO BE A HUNDRED PERCENT.
IF THAT INCLUDES, OKAY, WELL THEN WHAT'S YOUR PLAN TO GET, SO, TO GET TO, TO THAT POINT.
BUT I THINK, UM, IT MIGHT BE VALUABLE TO START LOOKING AT SOMETHING THAT, UM, SOMETHING SIMILAR TO LIKE WHAT THE PORT DID WITH THE MCAS.
UM, JUST, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE 10 YEARS TO GET THERE, AND HOW ARE WE GONNA GET THERE? YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE GOOD TO KNOW.
WE, WE ARE, UH, WE ARE COMMITTED TO GETTING A FORMAL PLAN IN PLACE.
UM, THE BIGGEST, THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE RIGHT NOW IS, IS, UM, WHERE CAN WE, UM, WHERE CAN WE INSTALL, YOU KNOW, EV CHARGING STATIONS? UM, WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF SPACE AVAILABLE AT CURRENT CITY FACILITIES.
UM, WE DID WORK WITH SDG E YEARS AGO THROUGH THEIR POWER YOUR DRIVE PROGRAM, WHERE THEY CAME OUT AND DID AN ASSESSMENT OF CITY HALL AND OUR PUBLIC WORKS YARD, AND THEY WERE ABLE TO INSTALL A TOTAL OF 12, UM, AT NO COST TO THE CITY.
UM, WE ARE MEETING, ARE THOSE THE ONE AT, UH, LOS PALMAS? UM, THOSE ARE DIFFERENT.
UM, BUT THESE, THE POWER DRIVE PROGRAM IS SPECIFIC FOR, UM, MUNICIPALITIES, THEIR FLEETS AND, AND THEIR EMPLOYEES.
SO THOSE ARE NOT AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC, BUT THEY, UH, THEY HELP SUPPORT, UM, THE NEEDS FOR, EVEN IF THE INDUSTRY WAS THERE, AND WE CAN START PURCHASING THESE, WE NEED THE LAND AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO CHARGE.
WE ARE MEETING WITH SDG E AGAIN IN THE COMING MONTHS.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY STILL HAVE THAT PROGRAM.
WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT OPPORTUNITIES AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AT MLK COMMUNITY CENTER, REVISIT IF THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES IN OUR PARKS.
BUT KEEP IN MIND, UH, WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE, UH, A SECURE SPACE.
AND THAT'S WHERE, WHERE IT'S MUCH MORE CHALLENGING FOR LOCAL AGENCIES.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE PUBLIC CAN USE PARKS, THEY CAN INSTALL PLUGS AT THEIR HOMES.
UM, THEY CAN USE TRANSIT STATIONS, BUT A LOT OF OUR VEHICLES HAVE TOOLS AND EQUIPMENT.
UH, YOU CAN IMAGINE OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IN THE, IN WHAT THEY HAVE IN THEIR VEHICLES.
SO AGAIN, FINDING THE SPACE TO, UH, AND THE, AND, AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S REQUIRED IS A CHALLENGE.
UM, AS YOU RECALL AT A PREVIOUS MEETING WHERE THE PORT PRESENTED THEIR, UM, PLAN TO PUT IN MEDIUM AND HEAVY DUTY CHARGING ON TIDELANDS, WE,
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WE MENTIONED THAT WE WANT TO PUSH TO HAVE ACCESS TO THOSE CHARGING STATIONS.THAT WOULD BE AN EXCELLENT RESOURCE FOR US.
SO THESE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT YOU WOULD SEE IN THIS PLAN.
UM, BUT I THINK RIGHT NOW THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE IS SPACE AND LAND AND, AND HOW TO, HOW TO, UH, FIND THE ROOM TO INSTALL THESE CHARGERS AND, AND, AND CREATE A SECURE ENVIRONMENT FOR OUR VEHICLES.
YEAH, I, I WAS GONNA GO THERE.
UH, IS, IS, UM, YOU KNOW, THE PORT IS BUILDING ON OUR, WITHIN OUR JURISDICTION, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THESE ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS.
AND SO, UH, MAYBE THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE SOLUTION FOR US AS WELL.
I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS.
MEMBER YOU MIND? THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
I, I, I KNOW THAT I'VE EXPRESSED TO YOU HOW I CAN READ THE CIP PROJECTS EASILY, AND THANK YOU FOR MAKING THE SPREAD, BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT EVEN, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THE PUBLIC CAN READ EASILY.
WHAT ARE THE PROJECTS? WHEN DO WE START, WHEN IS IT PROJECTED TO BE FINISHED? WHERE ARE WE GETTING THE FUNDS AND HOW WE GET DIPPING FROM OUR GENERAL FUND.
SO THANK YOU FOR, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, LISTENING AND MAKING THIS, UM, EASIER TO READ.
MY, UM, MY, MY QUESTION, IS THIS GONNA BE ONLINE FOR THE MOST, ESPECIALLY THE COMPLETED ONES AND THE ONES THAT ARE IN CONS IN CONSTRUCTION? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
SO, SO NUMBER ONE, UM, THE CIP PORTION OF THIS PRESENTATION WILL GET POSTED ON MONDAY, AND WE RECENTLY, UM, WE RECENTLY LAUNCHED A BRAND NEW, UM, CIP WEBSITE.
IT'S, AND I FORGOT TO ADD IT TO THE LAST SLIDE.
IT'S CALLED NATIONAL CITY PROJECTS.
THAT'S ONE WORD, NATIONAL CITY PROJECTS.COM.
UM, WE ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO GO THERE.
UH, WHEN WE GET TO THE CO, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GO TO THE HOMEPAGE, YOU'LL HAVE A LINK FOR OUR, UM, THAT WILL INCLUDE A LOT OF, UM, OVERVIEW ON, ON OUR CIP, THIS PRESENTATION.
BUT WHAT'S NICE ABOUT IT IS WE WERE ABLE TO GO BACK AND PROVIDE DETAILS AND PHOTOS ON PROJECTS THAT WE'VE COMPLETED GOING BACK ALMOST 10 YEARS.
FOR PROJECTS THAT ARE IN CONSTRUCTION, WE HAVE A LITTLE MORE DETAIL.
WE ACTUALLY PROVIDE A SUMMARY OF THE WORK THAT, UH, WAS COMPLETED OVER A TWO WEEK PERIOD.
AND THEN WE HAVE A TWO WEEK LOOK, LOOK AHEAD.
SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE'RE DOING A MAJOR, UM, SEWER REPLACEMENT PROJECT, UM, THROUGH DOWNTOWN BUSINESS OWNERS CAN GO ON THERE, AND IT'S GONNA SHOW THEM THAT WE'RE ON THIS BLOCK AND WE'RE PROJECTED TO GO TO THIS BLOCK AND DO THIS WORK OVER THE NEXT TWO WEEKS.
WE'VE MADE IT A REQUIREMENT OF OUR CONSTRUCTION MANAGERS THAT THEY NEED TO, UH, FEED THAT TO, UM, OUR WEBSITE PERSON FOR UPDATES EVERY TWO WEEKS.
UM, AND THEN AS PROJECTS GET COMPLETED, WE HOPE TO HAVE A NICE, UH, PHOTO LOG TO SHOWCASE WHAT'S BEEN DONE.
AND IT HAS YOUR BASIC INFORMATION AS THAT, THAT WE SHOWED HERE AS FAR AS SCHEDULES AND, AND FUNDING SOURCES.
SO I REALLY ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT WEBSITE.
UH, WE, WE JUST JUST LAUNCHED IT RECENTLY.
WE NEED TO GO THROUGH AND, UM, YOU KNOW, DO SOME QUALITY CONTROL ON SOME OF THE DATES AND WHATNOT.
BUT IT'S A, IT'S A GREAT START AND IT'S A GREAT WAY TO PROVIDE INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC ABOUT OUR PROJECTS.
UM, WITH REGARDS TO THE CIP, UH, FUNDING RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, OUR TOTAL REQUEST HERE IS 8.7, BUT ACTUALLY WHAT YOU'RE NEEDING FROM US IS ONLY A MILLION BECAUSE, WELL, WHAT, WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING IS, UM, IS $3 MILLION, UH, FROM THE GENERAL FUND.
I KNOW, BUT SOME FROM THE 8.7, THIS OTHER FUNDS WILL COVER THEM.
AND THAT'S WHAT I WILL WANTED YOU TO EXPLAIN FURTHER.
PAGE 40, PAGE 40, PAGE 41, LIKE GAS TAX, SEWER SERVICE.
IT COVERS 2 MILLION OF, OF THIS, UM, RECOMMENDED.
SO OUTTA THE, YEAH, OUTTA THE 8.7.
AS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS SLIDE, UM, ABOUT 25% IS, IS, IS COVERED BY OUR, UM, LOCAL TRANSNET ALLOCATIONS.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE, UH, REGIONAL SALES TAX.
UH, ABOUT ANOTHER 25% IS FROM OUR SEWER SERVICE FUND, AND A LITTLE LESS THAN 20% WOULD BE FROM OUR, UH, GAS TAX ALLOCATION.
AT LEAST THAT'S, UH, EXPLAINED PROPERLY.
ANYTHING FROM ANYONE ELSE? NOT SEEING ANYTHING ELSE AT
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THIS? OKAY.THANK YOU SO MUCH, THIEF FOR THE VERY THOROUGH PRESENTATION.
UM, IN THE VEHICLE FLEET FUNDING RECOMMENDATIONS, I GUESS THAT I'M LOOKING AT PAGE 44 AND 45, UM, WERE THESE VEHICLE RECOMMENDATIONS A PART OF THE, I THINK WE HAVE A FIVE YEAR, UM, VEHICLE REPLACEMENT SCHEDULE? YEAH, THEY ARE.
THE, THE ONES IN BLACK, IN PART IN PARTICULAR, ARE BASED ON THAT ROTATIONAL SCHEDULE.
SO THE ONE FOR THE MEDIUM SUV LIEUTENANT AND DETECTIVE POOL ARE, ARE NOT, BUT THEY'RE JUST OLDER.
THE, SO THE ONES IN RED, UH, NO, THE ONES IN GREEN ARE ACTUALLY NEW ADDITIONS TO THE FLEET.
SO THAT COULD BE THAT THERE'S EITHER SOME OPERATIONAL CHANGES, UH, NEW, NEW STAFF HIRES OR A, A NEED TO, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THESE, THIS, THESE PERSONNEL, UM, HAVE, UH, UH, THE, THE APPROPRIATE VEHICLE OR EQUIPMENT THAT THEY NEED.
AND I'LL JUST GIVE AN EXAMPLE.
YOU KNOW, IF, IF, UM, YOU KNOW, BEN TALKED ABOUT, UM, SOME REALLY POSITIVE CHANGES IN, IN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, AND, YOU KNOW, WE RECENTLY, UH, HIRED A NEW BUILDING IN INSPECTOR.
WELL, THAT INSPECTOR IS OUT, YOU KNOW, EVERY DAY IN THE FIELD, PROBABLY SEVEN OUTTA EIGHT HOURS OF HIS DAY.
SO THESE ARE THINGS, AS WE WORK EACH YEAR WITH THE DEPARTMENTS, UM, THEY LET US KNOW THAT, HEY, WE'RE, WE'RE, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO NEED A, UH, SECOND INSPECTOR.
SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CAPTURING THAT AND, AND ACCOUNTING FOR THAT AS PART OF OUR, OUR FLEET.
AND I, AND I WOULD ALSO JUST NOTE, 'CAUSE A QUESTION CAME UP RECENTLY, UM, WHAT'S INTERESTING IS EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE INCREASED STAFF, UM, HERE AND THERE OVER THE YEARS, UM, AT LEAST GOING BACK TO TO WHEN I FIRST STARTED AT THE CITY IN 2007, WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN ROUGHLY BETWEEN 200 AND 220 VEHICLES.
SO WE REALLY HAVEN'T INCREASED.
WE'VE DONE OUR, I THINK ALL DEPARTMENTS HAVE DONE A, A GREAT JOB, UM, TRYING TO BE EFFICIENT WITH THE USE OF THESE VEHICLES, SHARING VEHICLES WHEN WE CAN.
WE'VE, WE'VE REALLY STAYED IN THAT RANGE FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS, WHICH IS, WHICH IS PRETTY, PRETTY REMARKABLE NOW.
UM, ANOTHER QUICK QUESTION REGARDING THE PARADISE CREEK EDUCATIONAL PARK, RESTROOMS, I KNOW YOU ALREADY EXPLAINED IT, BUT CAN YOU WALK ME, UH, WALK ME THROUGH THAT, SO, YEAH.
WELL, WELL, UM, BACK WHEN, UM, IN 2021, WHEN, WHEN THE CITY RECEIVED THEIR ALLOCATION OF ARPA FUNDS, UM, SOME OF THE IMMEDIATE NEEDS, SUCH AS, UM, SETTING ASIDE WHAT PAUL TALKED ABOUT WAS THE 2 MILLION A YEAR FOR THREE YEARS TO OFFSET LOSS OF REVENUES, UM, SOME PERSONNEL EXPENSES.
THO THOSE WERE TAKEN OFF THE TOP.
AND THEN REALLY WHAT WAS LEFT WAS, UM, YOU KNOW, CAN, CAN WE SET ASIDE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, NINE OR 10 MILLION OF THE 18 FOR, FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS? SO, UM, SOME OF, SOME OF, UH, THOSE PROJECTS WERE, UM, WERE PRIORITIZED THROUGH THE CIP AND VARIOUS MEETINGS WITH COUNCIL.
AND THEN THERE WAS ABOUT 3 MILLION SET ASIDE, SPECIFICALLY FOR THE PUBLIC, UM, TO GIVE US FEEDBACK ON HOW THEY BELIEVE THOSE THAT LAST 3 MILLION SHOULD BE SPENT.
AND, UM, THAT PROJECT WAS ONE OF THE, THE, THE ONES THAT RECEIVED A LOT OF SUPPORT FROM THE COMMUNITY.
SO THAT'S WHERE, WHERE THAT REQUEST CAME FROM.
AND WE ASSESS WHAT IT WOULD COST TO DO THE UTILITY CONNECTIONS, POUR A SITE PAD AND INSTALL A PREFABRICATED RESTROOM.
AND THAT'S WHERE THE $500,000 BUDGET CAME FROM.
AND SO, UM, ARE WE ANTICIPATING TO, UM, UH, HAVE THE GENERAL FUND NOT BE REIMBURSED THROUGH A FUTURE GRANT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE RESTROOM? OR DO WE ANTICIPATE JUST A, UM, COST TO THE GENERAL FUND? IT WOULD BE A ONE, ONE-TIME COST TO THE GENERAL FUND.
NO, THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.
THE OTHER, UM, CLARIFYING QUESTION, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF RESTRUCTURING AROUND OUR, UH, BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
UM, THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR THAT.
I KNOW IT'S BEEN A PRIORITY OF THIS COUNCIL OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
UM, ARE THERE ANY COST SAVINGS? 'CAUSE I DIDN'T SEE IT ON THE REPORT REGARDING THE, UM, AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE WITH THE TWO VENDORS THAT WE HAVE HISTORICALLY USED IN REGARDS
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TO, UH, BUILDING AND SAFETY, CORRECT? YES.SO, UH, ABOUT, UH, NOVEMBER, UM, WHEN I WAS WORKING IN COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DOWN THERE, THAT I NOTICED THAT ONE OF THE VENDORS' CONTRACTS WAS DUE TO SUNSET IN DECEMBER, WHICH I, I ALLOWED THAT RATHER THAN AN EXTENT.
WE HAD AN EXTENSION AGREEMENT, BUT WE ALSO, THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT WAS SERVED BY STAFF, UH, MEMBERS FROM FROM THEM, YOU KNOW, FROM THAT PARTICULAR COMPANY.
AND IT TO, TO ME, JUST AN EXPERIENCE, IT WAS JUST, IT WAS JUST, JUST DIDN'T, THE MODEL DIDN'T MAKE SENSE.
AND, AND SO THE, UH, I ALLOWED THAT CONTRACT TO SUNSET AND THOSE STAFF MEMBERS WENT AWAY TO FOCUS ON OUR, OUR OWN STAFF, OUR OWN PERMANENT STAFF.
THE SAVINGS THERE WAS SUBSTANTIAL IN THAT.
I, I THINK OVERALL, IF I RE RECALL, RIGHT, AND, AND, AND JUST TO SPREAD OUT OVER THE LA YOU KNOW, UH, LAST COUPLE YEARS, IT'S LIKE ABOUT $400,000 A YEAR WITH THAT PARTICULAR VENDOR.
AND SO, UM, I ANTICIPATED THAT CON WITH THAT CONTRACT, SUN, SUN SETTING, THAT WOULD SAVE US APPROXIMATELY 400, YOU KNOW, IN, IN THE LONG RUN, ABOUT $400,000 ANNUALLY.
MY GOAL, OR MY GOAL WAS WITH THE, WITH THE VENDORS DOWN THERE, THAT LEAVES ONE VENDOR.
WE HAVE TO HAVE ONE VENDOR TO, TO DO PLAN REVIEW THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A FULL-TIME STAFF MEMBER DOING A PLAN REVIEW, EVEN THOUGH WE'VE RETAINED SOME OF THAT IN-HOUSE AND RETAINED SOME OF THAT REVENUE.
BUT THE WAY I ENVISION IT IS THAT, THAT I BELIEVE THAT THE BUDGET WAS IN, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, WAS ABOUT $800,000 FOR CONSULTANT SERVICES ALONE, JUST FOR BUILDING AND SAFETY.
UM, IT IT, THAT'S REALLY UNUSUAL FOR A CITY OF THIS SIZE AND, AND THE AMOUNT OF PERMITS THAT WE ISSUE.
SO IT SHOULDN'T EXCEED AT AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, IT SHOULD BE LESS THAN 50% OF THAT.
SO I, I'M THINKING THAT WITH COMING IN, UM, MAYBE MAYBE THREE 50 AT, AT, AT THE OUTSET AT WHEN ONCE THINGS STABILIZE, MAYBE EVEN LOWER.
SO THAT, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE GOAL WITH THAT.
I HOPE THAT ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION.
NO, I, I KNOW THERE HAD BEEN, UH, A COST SAVING SOMEWHERE IN THERE.
IT JUST, I DIDN'T SEE IT REFLECTED IN THE REPORT.
I, UH, I WAS A LITTLE BIT CONSERVATIVE.
UH, I, I DIDN'T WANNA, IF LACK OF BETTER WORDS, CUT MY NOSE OFF TO SPITE MY FACE IN DOING THE BUDGETING.
I DID REDUCE IT 750,000 TO 750,000 FROM 800,000.
BUT I IMPLEMENT, I TOOK SOME OF THAT MONEY AND, UM, 'CAUSE I HAD DETERMINED THAT IN ADDITION TO OUR FULL-TIME STAFF, THAT WE COULD SUPPLEMENT THEIR FULL-TIME STAFF WITH, UH, TWO PART-TIME POSITIONS.
SO I TRANSFERRED SOME OF THAT MONEY OVER TO, UH, TO, TO CREATE A PART-TIME ACCOUNT, UH, AT THE END OF THIS, UH, THIS FISCAL YEAR.
AND THIS, THE COMING FISCAL YEAR, WE'LL HAVE A, A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THAT, UH, WITH, UH, THE DIVISION AND SHOULD BE ABLE TO CUT THAT SUBSTANTIALLY, ESPECIALLY GOING INTO A BUDGET CYCLE IN THE, IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH, UM, FOR DOING YOUR DUE DILIGENCE ON THAT.
I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN A PRIORITY YES.
OF, UH, OF BEN AND, AND OF YOU.
UM, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE ELECTRIFICATION FOR 2035, NOW FOR MOST COMMERCIAL VEHICLES, THEY ARE, AND I'M TALKING ABOUT FORD HYUNDAI, WHOEVER, THE MANUFACTURERS SUPPOSEDLY NOT SUPPOSED TO BE MANUFACTURING ANY NEW, UH, INTERNAL COMBUSTION AFTER 2035, BUT YOU CAN STILL HAVE NOW, OR WHEN WE WAS TALKING ABOUT OUR 2035 SCHEDULE, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT NO LONGER PURCHASING, OR ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HAVING ALL OF OUR VEHICLES ELECTRIFIED AT THAT POINT? I BELIEVE THERE'S SEPARATE LEGISLATION SPECIFICALLY FOR LOCAL AGENCIES.
THAT'S WHAT I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT.
AND, AND THAT MAY ALLOW PERMIT US TO GO OUT A LITTLE FURTHER, BUT, UM, RIGHT NOW WE'RE CONSERVATIVELY HOLDING TO THAT 2035.
BUT AS I SAY, THAT'S, YEAH, THERE IS, THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT PIECES OF LEGISLATION AND ALTHOUGH I WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED THAT THERE DOESN'T END UP BEING AN EXTENSION, UH, AS WE TRY TO WORK THROUGH THIS WHOLE PROCESS, UM, THAT BEING ONE THING.
THE OTHER THING IS YOU, IT WAS MENTIONED ABOUT THE GAS TAX ON THE ELECTRIFICATION, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT.
WHEN WE, WHEN THEY, UH, THE LEGISLATURE INCREASED THE GAS TAX RECENTLY, THAT'S BEEN, WHAT, A YEAR AND A HALF AGO OR SO, UH, THERE WAS TO BE AN INCREASE FOR, THERE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE AN AMOUNT FOR ELECTRIC CARS, BUT IT WASN'T TO TAKE EFFECT, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT.
TILL 2026 OR 27, AND IT WOULD BE ON THEIR REGISTRATION.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WOULD END UP COMING BACK AS FAR AS FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENT
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AS FAR AS GAS TAX, BUT I THINK THAT WAS, UH, BUT YEAH, THEY WERE TO HOLD OFF ON ELECTRIC VEHICLES.AND IF I REMEMBER, I THINK IT WAS A HUNDRED, A HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR, UH, PASSENGER VEHICLE.
THE, UH, UH, OTHER THING IS, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED A LOT IN PAST ABOUT THE SWIMMING POOL AND ALL THE THINGS THAT FOR CIP THAT NEED TO BE THERE, DONE, EVERYTHING JUST HAPPENED TO RUN INTO JANINE, WHO IS THE, UM, DISTRICT, UH, MANAGER FOR, UM, OH, A CONGRESSMAN VARGAS RAN INTO HER EARLIER TODAY, AND SHE BROUGHT UP THAT THEY ARE LOOKING AT THE NATIONAL CITY POOL TOMORROW, UH, IN COMMITTEE.
THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S BEING LOOKED AT ALONG WITH THE NUMBER OF, BUT SHE SAID IT'S VERY, VERY HIGHLY COMPETITIVE.
I MENTIONED TO HER THAT WE WERE CONTEMPLATING PUTTING IN, UM, WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL 'EM, I CALL 'EM TEMPORARY VEHICLES, I MEAN, OR, UH, FACILITIES OR, UM, UM, MOVE ON FACILITIES FOR CHANGING AND FOR SHOWERS AND EVERYTHING.
SHE GOES, REALLY, WE DIDN'T KNOW THAT.
AND I SAID, WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S HOW BAD THE, UM, THE FACILITY IS THAT WE'RE HAVING TO CONTEMPLATE DO THAT.
AND THAT'S WHAT WHAT IS BEING SUGGESTED BY STAFF AT THIS POINT.
AND, UH, AND SO SHE BROUGHT UP AND SAYS, YEAH.
I SAID, WELL, I USED TO GO THERE WHEN I WAS A KID.
AND I SAID, WELL THEN, DO YOU REMEMBER THE CHANGING ROOMS? SHE GOES, OH YEAH, THE CHANGING AREA.
AND I SAID, YOU REMEMBER IT DOESN'T HAVE A ROOF.
SHE GOES, YEAH, IT WAS NO PROBLEM.
I SAID, I SAID, THAT WAS BEFORE DRONES.
AND SHE GOES, OH, I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT THAT.
SO WE END UP HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF A LIABILITY ISSUE AND, UH, WITH THE CURRENT FACILITY, AND SHE GOES, I NEED TO TALK TO THE CONGRESSMAN.
SO ANYWAY, SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN PUT AN EXTRA LITTLE BUG IN THEIR EAR AND, UH, ANY, ANYTHING WE CAN GET, WE'LL TAKE, UM, YES, YES.
YEAH, I, I THINK IT'S, UH, IT'S GREAT THAT YOU HAD THAT, UH, THAT INTERACTION.
SO, UM, DIRECTED BY OUR CITY MANAGER AND, AND BROUGHT TO ATTENTION BY VICE MAYOR.
UM, UH, OUR VICE MAYOR HAD SENT BOTH CITY MANAGER ME, UM, THE FORMAL, UM, APPLICATION THROUGH CONGRESSMAN VARGAS'S OFFICE.
AND THEY GAVE US BASICALLY TWO DAYS.
UM, AND WE WENT AHEAD AND PUT OUR BEST FOOT FORWARD FOR THE, UH, FOR THE POOL BUILDING.
SO I THINK, UH, AGAIN, THE TIMING OF YOUR INTERACTION, AND WE WANT TO THANK OUR VICE MAYOR FOR BRINGING IT TO OUR ATTENTION.
WE WERE ABLE TO GET IT IN A DAY EARLY
AND, UM, I'M REALLY EXCITED TO HEAR THAT THEY'RE GONNA, UH, SERIOUSLY CONSIDER IT.
'CAUSE I THINK WE ALL KNOW JUST THE STATE OF THAT BUILDING AND RIGHT, WHAT IT WOULD MEAN TO OUR COMMUNITY TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, JUST, JUST, WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR, UH,
SO THAT'S REALLY GOOD NEWS TO HEAR.
I WAS IN DC AND I VISITED OUR CONGRESSMAN, AND HE SAID HE'S VERY WILLING TO HELP.
SO, AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
THAT'S, AND SEE THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS, A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE GO, WELL, YOU KNOW, YOU TAKE THESE TRIPS BACK TO DC OR SOMETHING ALONG THAT LINE, IT'S JUNK AS WHAT? NO.
WHAT YOU CAN DO IS YOU MAKE THOSE OFFICE VISITS AND, UH, MAKE THOSE THINGS HAPPEN.
UM, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE PRESENTATION AS A WHOLE, I, YOU KNOW, IT SHOWS WE GOT A CHALLENGING YEAR AHEAD OF US.
UH, AND, YOU KNOW, CITIES ALL AROUND US ARE HAVING THAT, THE STATE
UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE LOOKING AT THEIR BILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
UH, YOU KNOW, GOVERNOR SAYS, GOVERNOR'S SAYING WHAT HE'S SAYING CURRENTLY ABOUT 50.
AND THEN THE, UH, OH, UH, ADMIN, THE, UH, ACCOUNTING OFFICE IS SAYING WE'RE LIKE 75 BILLION AND, UH, UH, DEFICIT.
AND THEN WE HAVE KIND OF THE SAME THING GOING ON IN THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO, EXCEPT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT MILLIONS AND, UH, UH, OFF.
AND WHEN THE DEAL IS, IS THAT, AS YOU SEE, OUR REVENUES ARE CONTINUING TO INCREASE, BUT NOT AT THE PACE OF EXPENDITURES.
AND MOST OF US SEE THAT IN OUR PRIVATE LIFE.
ALSO, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, I JUST, UH, UH, BEFORE I CAME OVER HERE, I STOPPED BY WALMART TO GET A DEAL OF SOME, UH, FLOOR FINISH, WHICH THEY NORMALLY SELL THERE FOR.
AND COME TO FIND OUT IT WAS DISCONTINUED.
AND I, AND I LOOKED AFTERWARDS, I DID A QUICK SEARCH, AND THE ONLY PLACE I CAN FIND IT FOR THE SAME STUFF, IT'S PLEDGE, UH, BRAND.
THEY'RE WINNING OVER A HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR
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IT NOW.I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THE PRICES ON STUFF HAVE JUST WENT, ARE GONE THROUGH THE ROOF.
AND, UH, BUT IT'S AFFECTING, AFFECTING US HERE.
YOU KNOW, COST OF LIVING HAS GONE UP DRASTICALLY.
AND, BUT IF WE DON'T KEEP REVENUE IN LINE WITH THAT, OR EVEN AHEAD OF IT, THEN WE END UP WITH BUDGET FORECAST, LIKE WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN FRONT OF US.
AND, UH, SO I CANNOT EMPHASIZE ENOUGH WHAT OUR CITY MANAGER MENTIONED BEFORE.
WE HAVE TO REALLY BE CONCENTRATING ON REVENUE GENERATION, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AND BEING BUSINESS FRIENDLY.
AND, UH, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AND THEN THERE'S A BIG PUSH SOMETIMES AGAINST BUSINESS AND ALL ALONG THAT LINE, BUT THAT'S WHERE WE GET THE REVENUE.
SO WE CAN PROVIDE THE SERVICES TO OUR PEOPLE.
AND WITHOUT THAT, WE'VE GOTTA COME UP WITH GOOD EXCUSES ON WHY WE'RE NOT PROVIDING THE SERVICES.
BUT, UH, UH, IT'S GONNA BE A CHALLENGE, I THINK, THIS YEAR AS WE TAKE A LOOK AT THIS.
AND IT WOULD BE DIFFERENT IF IT WAS ONLY LOOKED LIKE A ONE YEAR CHALLENGE.
THIS DOES NOT LOOK LIKE ONE YEAR CHALLENGE.
THIS IS, LOOKS LIKE IT'S GONNA BE ONGOING FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE, AT THE VERY LEAST.
UM, AND IT'S, AND NORMALLY REVENUE GENERATION PROJECTS, YOU KNOW, UH, HOW OFTEN DOES A, THERE'S A PROJECT LIKE WHAT CHULA VISTA'S GOT GOING ON THEIR BAYFRONT, HOW OFTEN DOES THAT COME UP? YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE LARGEST DEVELOPMENT ON THE WEST COAST.
IT IS BEEN, THEY'VE BEEN OVER 20 YEARS TRYING TO GET THAT THING GOING.
UH, YOU KNOW, AND WE DON'T HAVE THE OPEN SPACES AND EVERYTHING ELSE TO GO ALONG WITH THAT.
SO WE GOTTA WORK THAT MUCH HARDER TO MAKE REVENUE GENERATION, UM, SO THAT WE CAN PROVIDE, UH, PROVIDE THE SERVICES AND, YOU KNOW, ALL THE BELLS AND WHISTLES WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE FOR OUR PUBLIC.
UM, SO, UH, LOOK FORWARD TO THE 21ST AND WE COME BACK AND YEAH, I WOULD, I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR US TO MEET IN THE AFTERNOON AND, UH, UH, AND GIVE A, UH, MY UNDERSTANDING THAT AGENDA'S GONNA BE PRETTY GOOD SIZE ANYWAY.
AND SO GIVE US A DECENT BREAK BETWEEN THE, BETWEEN THE, UH,
UM, NO, I THINK I AM, UH, GOOD, MR. MAYOR, WE'LL, WE'LL WORK ON THAT SCHEDULE FOR THE, UM, 21ST.
UNLESS, YES, UM, UH, I HAVE A FEW MORE COMMENTS.
I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT WE WERE GETTING THERE.
BUT, UM, SO I, I DID WANT TO, UM, THANK STAFF FOR ALL OF THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THIS INFORMATION.
UM, IT IS, UM, VERY EASY TO SORT OF GRASP, YOU KNOW, THE THE PRELIMINARY BUDGET AT THIS MOMENT AND TO, UM, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTAND THE DIRECTION THAT WE'RE HEADED IN.
UM, SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THE, ALL OF THE WORK.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO BRING A COUPLE OF THOUGHTS INTO THIS EQUATION, ONE OF WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT I HAVEN'T HEARD SO MUCH.
YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE OFTEN TALKING ABOUT ADDING DENSITY TO OUR CITY, UM, BECAUSE IT'S NECESSARY, YOU KNOW, TO BRING MORE HOUSES TO OUR, YOU KNOW, TO, TO THE FOLKS THAT, THAT WANNA LIVE IN THE AREA.
AND WE ARE, WE'RE VERY ACTIVE IN INCREASING DENSITY IN OUR CITY.
WE RECENTLY PASSED OUR FOCUS GENERAL PLAN UPDATE THAT DOES THAT.
UM, WHAT I DON'T HEAR A LOT AS PART OF THAT CONVERSATION IS THE EFFECT THAT IT DOES TAKE ON INFRASTRUCTURE AND, AND THE, THE, IT BROUGHT TO MY MIND, I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING IN HERE IN CIP FOR LIKE SEWER UPGRADE OR SEWER, UM, SOMETHING, UM, I FORGET WHAT THE WORD WAS, UPSIZING OR WHAT SOMETHING, AND I WONDERED IS THAT AS A RESULT OF THE DENSITY THAT WE'RE ADDING TO THE CITY, IS THERE OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE WE SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT PREPARING FOR THE DENSITY THAT'S COMING? YEAH, SO THE, THOSE UPSIZING PROJECTS ARE TIED TO CURRENT AND FUTURE DENSITY.
SO WE WANT TO GET AHEAD OF IT.
UM, AND AGAIN, A PORTION OF THE, THE SEWER FEES WE COLLECT ARE TO GO TO, TO US BEING PROACTIVE, TO MAINTAIN AND UPSIZE OUR, OUR FACILITIES.
SO THAT WHEN, WHEN THIS, UH, HIGHER DENSITY DEVELOPMENT DOES OCCUR, THE SYSTEMS ARE ALREADY IN PLACE.
OH, I'M SO HAPPY TO HEAR THAT WE ARE, YOU KNOW, INCLUDING THAT, UM, IN, IN THE PLANS THAT WE HAVE.
UM, AND THEN MY LAST TWO POINTS JUST HAS TO DO WITH INFORMATION THAT I HAVE, UM, RECEIVED FROM SANDAG.
AND I'M SURE YOU KNOW, STAFF ALSO, UM, IS PART OF THE EMAILS.
UH, BUT THE, THE, THE TWO THINGS MOST RECENTLY THAT I, YOU KNOW, CAME INTO THE KNOWLEDGE OF IS, UM, WITHIN SANDAG THERE'S A REGIONAL
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TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE, SEA LEVEL ASSESSMENT.UM, AND I'M LOOKING AT IT RIGHT NOW, AND IT HAS, UM, KEY, UM, STRATEGIES FOR HOW TO ADAPT TO SEA LEVEL RISE.
AND GIVEN THE FACT THAT OUR CITY JUST WENT THROUGH THIS FLOODING DISASTER, UM, THERE ARE SOME POINTS IN HERE THAT, UM, MIGHT BE WORTHWHILE TO INVESTIGATE TO SEE HOW WE CAN WORK, YOU KNOW, REGIONALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH THE CLIMATE CHANGE SITUATION THAT'S HAPPENING.
AND THEN THE OTHER ONE THAT I WAS GONNA MENTION WAS THIS REGIONAL CLIMATE ADAPTATION PLANNING GUIDE.
UM, THIS IS ALSO, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S A TOOLBOX.
UM, IT'S A PART, IT'S, I'M LOOKING AT IT FROM THE SANDAG WEBSITE, BUT IT IS A TOOLBOX FOR, UM, CITIES TO START PLANNING.
AND SO IF, IF, YOU KNOW, IF STAFF ISN'T AWARE OF THIS, THIS IS A TOOL THAT WE CAN USE.
ALTHOUGH I'M PRETTY SURE YOU, YOU GUYS ALREADY KNOW.
SO, UH, THAT CONCLUDES MY COMMENTS.
I WANNA THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL OF THE WORK.
ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY CLOSING COMMENTS? WANNA MAKE
THANK YOU STAFF FOR ALL THIS, UH, UH, PRESENTATION.
UH, I AM CONCERNED ABOUT, UH, HOW MUCH IN THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR, THE, UM, EXPENDITURES ARE EXCEEDING THE REVENUES BECAUSE IT, UM, YEAH, IT'S NOT SUSTAINABLE CONTINUING TO DO THAT IN THE, IN THE LONG RUN.
BUT TO THE VICE MAYOR'S POINT EARLIER, I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF STAFF COULD COME BACK.
UM, SO THE CITY MANAGER AND OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR WITH WHAT THE ACTUALS HAS BEEN OVER THE PAST, UH, TWO OR THREE YEARS AT LEAST, I THINK IT'D BE HELPFUL TO HAVE FIVE YEARS.
'CAUSE IN THAT WAY WE CAN SEE, UM, WHAT THE, WHAT THE TRENDS HAVE BEEN, UM, OVER THE LONG RUN.
SO WITH REVENUES, WITH EXPENDITURES, BECAUSE THE ACTUALS ARE REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE OFTEN, WE HAVE THESE PERSONNEL BUDGETS AND WE HAVE THE VACANCIES.
SO WE ALWAYS, ALMOST ALWAYS YEAR AFTER YEAR END UP SEEING SAVINGS ON THAT END.
AND SO, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, THE EJ PLANNER POSITION, WE STILL HAVEN'T HIRED FOR THAT, AND WE AUTHORIZED THAT TWO TO THREE YEARS AGO.
SO THAT CONTINUES TO BE, UM, A VACANCY THAT WE ALSO NEED TO FACTOR IN.
UM, I'M, I'M PLEASED TO HEAR ABOUT CONTRACT SERVICES.
I UNDERSTAND WHY THERE WAS CONSERVATIVE S ESTIMATES THERE.
UM, THE RESERVES, UM, I APPRECIATE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER RODRIGUEZ BRINGING THIS UP ON, ON THE, SOME OF THE RESERVES BECAUSE I, I DO THINK THAT WE SHOULD TAKE A FRESH LOOK AT OUR POLICIES THERE.
I, I'M, I'LL, I'LL DO MORE RESEARCH AND TALK MORE WITH STAFF ABOUT WHAT THE SCENARIOS ARE WHERE WE CAN AND CAN'T TAP INTO, UM, THE ECONOMIC CONTINGENCY CONTINGENCY RESERVE BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S A LOT.
UM, IT'S 20% AND MAYBE WE SHOULD LOOK AT SHIFTING OVER SOME OF THE FUNDS.
UM, I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE 15 MILLION IS THE TARGET.
AND, AND I'M JUST NOT CLEAR ON REALLY, WHEN REALISTICALLY ARE WE GOING, WOULD WE TAP INTO THAT? WHAT WILL WE TAP INTO THAT FOR? LIABILITY RESERVES WAS I THINK, 2 MILLION OVER.
SO I, I REALLY THINK WE SHOULD, UM, LOOK AT, LOOK AT THAT POLICY, UM, AND, AND TAKE A FRESH LOOK AT IT, UM, ON THE EXPENDITURES.
UM, UH, OH, ACTUALLY, SO FOR, UM, TO, ON THE CIP TO, UH, UH, MR. MANGENELLE AND THE WORK HE'S BEEN DOING, UM, ON THE COMPETITIVE GRANTS, SO CLIMATE ACTION, UH, CAMPAIGN, UH, NICOLE CAPPERS, UH, WHO I'VE WORKED WITH, UH, SHE'S ON THE, UH, ONE OF THE STATE BOARDS ON, UM, ON, ON THE ENVIRONMENT.
AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF FUNDING FOR CLIMATE FROM INFRASTRUCTURE AND CLIMATE ACTION, UM, TYPE PROGRAMS LIKE A, A TON THAT STILL HASN'T BEEN RELEASED, UM, FROM THE, FROM, FROM THE FEDS.
SO I, I REALLY HOPE THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, KEEPING TRACK, TRACK OF THAT.
AND I CAN FIND OUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT PROGRAMS ARE GONNA BE AVAILABLE THERE.
UM, OVERALL JUST BEING, IF WE CAN BE MORE CREATIVE, PERIOD, LIKE WE HAVE A LOT OF NEW LEADERS HERE, NOT JUST ON THIS DIET, AND I STILL CONSIDER MYSELF FAIRLY NEW.
UM, BUT, UH, SO WE HAVE NEW LEADERS JUST, UM, IN COUNCIL STAFF WITH OUR POLICE CHIEF, OUR FIRE CHIEF, OUR CITY MANAGER.
UM, SO, UH, IN OUR, UM, ENGINEERING DIRECTOR STEVE IS KIND OF NEW OLD, RIGHT? LIKE, SO I, I'D REALLY LIKE US TO TAKE A REALLY FRESH LOOK AT THESE, UM, AT OUR EXPENDITURES AND HOW WE CAN ACHIEVE SAVINGS AND MAYBE DO THINGS DIFFERENTLY.
AND, AND I'VE TALKED TO BEN ABOUT SOME OF THIS, LIKE EVEN THE LIGHTS WE LEAVE ON IN THE BUILDINGS, IT'S REALLY INEFFICIENT.
AND IT, IT'S A LITTLE THING, BUT IT ADDS UP.
LIKE HOW, HOW WE USE LIKE THE LIGHTING, THE VEHICLE FLEET.
CAN'T WE TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THAT? SO D UM, ARE WE ABLE TO EXTEND THE LIFE ON VEHICLE FLEET? ARE THERE BEHAVIORS FROM
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OUR EMPLOYEES THAT COULD CHANGE ON, LIKE, ON HOW THEY DRIVE? AND DOES THAT IMPACT, UM, YOU KNOW, HOW THE, THE SERVICE LIFE OF, OF THE VEHICLES, UM, FOR, UH, FOR REVENUE? UM, THIS IS MORE COMMUNITY SERVICES STAFF, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I HEAR IN THE COMMUNITY, AND, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE SHOULD RECOGNIZE IS LIKE THE CULTURE OF OUR COMMUNITY TOO.AND, UH, A LOT OF, WE'RE VERY FAMILY ORIENTED, LIKE GOING TO QUINCEANERAS AND PARTIES AND EVENTS, BUT WE REALLY DON'T GIVE OUR PEOPLE ACCESS TO OUR COMMUNITY FACILITIES.
LIKE, SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MARTIN LUTHER KING RENT IT OUT FOR QUINCEANERAS AND ALLOW ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION, UH, OBVIOUSLY WITH, WITH SAFETY PARAMETERS AND MAKING SURE WE GET RECOMMENDATIONS FROM POLICE AND JUST MAKING SURE PEOPLE ARE SAFE AND WHATEVER THE SECURITY LOOKS LIKE THERE.
BUT THOSE ARE REVENUE GENERATING POTENTIALS, LIKE OUR NEW POOL FACILITY.
I'D LIKE TO SEE US UTILIZE THAT BETTER.
UM, SO I, I JUST THINK THERE'S A LOT OF AREAS WHERE, UH, WE, WE COULD BE CREATIVE AND, AND GENERATE, UM, MORE REVENUE.
UM, SO IF, IF STAFF COULD JUST, JUST LOOK AT THAT OVERALL AND JUST, UM, ESPECIALLY THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND DIRECTORS IS LET'S TAKE A FRESH LOOK AT, AT THINGS AND LET'S SEE HOW WE CAN BE INNOVATIVE AND DO THINGS, YOU KNOW, COM COMPLETELY DIFFERENTLY.
AND EVEN IF, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO TALK TO YOUR, YOUR STAFF AND, AND, AND YOUR WORKERS TOO, FROM THE LOWEST LEVEL TO, TO, TO THE MANAGERS TO SEE WHAT IDEAS THEY HAVE FOR, UH, HOW WE CAN ACHIEVE THESE SAVINGS.
'CAUSE THAT IS A, UM, THAT SIX TO 8 MILLION DELTA THAT, THAT IS SIGNIFICANT.
AND WE GOTTA, UM, WE JUST GOTTA BE REALISTIC ABOUT THAT.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I, I JUST APPRECIATE THIS DISCUSSION AND, AND ONE WHERE, WHERE WE'RE AT.
REMEMBER RODRIGUEZ, THANK YOU, MS. MAYOR.
UM, REALLY WANNA THANK STAFF FOR PREPARING ALL OF THIS AND WORKING HARD.
I KNOW IT'S A LOT OF WORK TO PUT TOGETHER AND GET TO THIS POINT, AND SO I, I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
UM, THIS IS A, A, A REGIONAL AND STATEWIDE AND NATIONAL TREND.
A LOT OF OTHER CITIES, UM, ARE DEALING WITH THE SAME ISSUE.
UM, I READ THE OTHER DAY THAT A CITY OF SAN DIEGO'S DEALING WITH $127 MILLION SHORTFALL, AND THEY ARE PROPOSING AN INITIATIVE, UM, IN ORDER TO CLOSE THAT GAP AND CONTINUE TO FUND THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE.
UM, BUT THESE ARE THE TYPE OF MEASURES THAT ARE OCCURRING RIGHT THROUGH OUR, THESE ARE THE TYPE OF ACTIVITIES THAT ARE OCCURRING AROUND, AROUND OUR REGION.
SO I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WE'RE NOT ALONE IN THIS.
THIS IS HAPPENING EVERYWHERE AROUND US.
AND, UM, SO IN ORDER TO, TO COMBAT THAT, I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE LOOK AT, UH, COST SAVING MEASURES FOR OUR CITY.
AND, YOU KNOW, I, I DO WANT TO COMMEND, UH, THIS COUNCIL IN PARTICULAR AND PREVIOUS ONES IN THE PAST.
I MEAN, WE HAVE TAKEN COST SAVING MEASURES ALREADY.
WE WERE PROPOSED A $14 MILLION BUILDING AT LAS PALMAS, WHICH WE DIDN'T HAVE THE FUNDS FOR.
I, I, I THINK THAT WAS A GOOD DECISION.
WE WERE PROPOSED A $4 MILLION RETROFIT OF THIS BUILDING, UM, TO UTILIZE.
SO WE DIDN'T SPEND THAT MONEY.
SO I, I THINK, I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO REALIZE THOSE COST SAVING MEASURES THAT HAVE ALSO ALREADY OCCURRED, BUT ALSO LOOK AT, UM, ADDITIONAL MAYBE DEPARTMENT COST SAVING MEASURES AS COLLEAGUE BUSH MENTIONED AS WELL.
UM, AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERY ONE OF OUR DEPARTMENTS, UM, OUR OWN AS WELL THROUGH THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL TO LOOK AT HOW WE CAN HAVE, UM, COST SAVINGS, UM, TO LOOK AT THE LONG RUN.
AND ALSO, I WOULD LIKE TO CHALLENGE ALL OF US TO LOOK AT LONG-TERM MITIGATING FACTORS I APPRECIATE IN THE PRESENTATION.
UM, SLIDE 26 TALKED ABOUT ADDITIONAL THINGS WE COULD REVISIT AND, AND DO.
I MEAN, A BUDGET IS LIKE, UM, I HEAR THIS ANALOGY QUITE A BIT, KIND OF YOUR, YOUR YOUR OWN PERSONAL HOME BUDGET, RIGHT? AND I, I THINK LIKE IF I MADE THAT PERSONAL HOME BUDGET 25 YEARS AGO WHEN I WORKED AT A STARBUCKS, THEN MY LIFE WOULD'VE BEEN VERY DIFFICULT, RIGHT? BUT I THINK WE ALL HAVE TO HAVE A PLAN AND HOW WE CAN MAKE ADDITIONAL REVENUE, HOW WE CAN MAKE ADDITIONAL MONEY, HOW WE CAN INVEST IN OUR CITY, UM, UH, IN MY CASE, RIGHT, IN, IN OUR FAMILY.
BUT I THINK LOOKING INTO THE FUTURE IS, IS CRITICAL.
AND I DO SEE THAT HAPPENING, UH, THROUGH RESTRUCTURING OF OUR BUILDING DEPARTMENT, MAKING SURE THAT WE BECOME A BUSINESS FRIENDLY COMMUNITY, A BUSINESS FRIENDLY CITY, AND MAKE SURE THAT WE EARN THAT REPUTATION.
UM, I REALLY WANT TO REITERATE THE SLIDE 26 TO JUST LOOK AT ADDITIONAL MITIGATING FACTORS, UM, WHICH YOU ALL HAVE PROPOSED, AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT ALL OF US ON THE DAAS, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, SHOULD, SHOULD LOOK AT AND CONSIDER WORKING TOGETHER ON.
UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN THAT WE ALL UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.
I THINK OUR CITY MANAGERS SAID, YOU KNOW, IT BOILS DOWN TO OUR PEOPLE BECAUSE OF OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT WE WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN TO CREATE FOR OUR CITY.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, AS I ALWAYS ENCOURAGE HIM TO TAKE CARE OF OUR WORKFORCE AS THEY TAKE CARE OF US ALWAYS AND ALWAYS, UM, I BELIEVE THAT TOGETHER, YOU KNOW,
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WE CAN WORK TOGETHER TO MITIGATE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN THESE FACTORS ON HOW WE CAN, YOU KNOW, I MEAN LOOK AT THE NUMBER AND MAKE IT MORE ACCEPTABLE AND THAT WE CAN EMBRACE AND WE CAN MOVE FORWARD TO MAKE THIS CITY CONTINUE TO THRIVE.WITH THAT, IT SOUNDS LIKE AS IF WE'VE GOT A LOT OF THINGS TO THINK ABOUT HERE IN THESE NEXT FEW WEEKS AS WE PREPARE THIS BUDGET AND, UH, YOU KNOW, AND SEPARATING THE, YOU KNOW, IDEAS AND PUTTING 'EM INTO THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, THE ONES THAT PERFECT WORLD, ONES THAT ARE REALISTIC, AND HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE GET AS CLOSE TO, AS CLOSE TO THOSE THINGS AS WE CAN AND DO AS MANY THINGS AS WE CAN WITH THAT, UH, WE ARE ADJOURNED.