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AWESOME.

[Public Art Committee on January 23, 2024]

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GOOD AFTERNOON, ENO STARTED THIS.

WELCOME TO OUR MEETING.

IT'S BEEN A WHILE.

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL OF YOU.

LOOKING FORWARD FOR A GREAT NEW YEAR, RIGHT? UH, WE'LL CALL TO ORDER.

OKAY.

ONE SECOND.

SORRY.

OKAY.

UH, MEMBER LOPEZ.

PRESENT.

MEMBER RILEY.

PRESENT MEMBER.

JACQUELINE? NO.

UH, MEMBER SCHWAB.

NICK GARCIA.

HERE.

MEMBER JOHNSON.

MEMBER ES HERE.

AND MEMBER BUSH.

SHE IS NOT PRESENT.

I'M SORRY.

OKAY.

ROLL CALL HAS BEEN TAKEN.

NO PRESENTATIONS.

NOW WE HAVE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA OF JANUARY.

DO I HEAR AN APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE AGENDA? UH, THE ONLY ISSUE, ISSUE IS APPARENTLY MY LAST NAME ACCORDING TO AGAIN.

OKAY.

SO AT THIS TIME WE'LL PULL THE MINUTES OKAY.

AND WE'LL MAKE THE CORRECTIONS.

THANK YOU.

IT'S THE GARCIA PART, NOT THE SHOW.

THIS TIME.

IT WAS GARCIA DURING MY LIFE.

I THOUGHT IT WOULD END SUNDAY, BUT IT JUST DOESN'T MATTER.

IT FOLLOWS ME.

OKAY.

AND THEN I'LL APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.

GIVE YOU A FIX ON RILEY.

OKAY, ON THE, ON THE AGENDA.

R-E-I-L-L-Y.

I DON'T CARE.

BUT THIS IS A PUBLIC DOCUMENT.

EXACTLY.

, ANY OTHER CORRECTIONS ON THE MINUTES? NO.

OKAY.

APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.

PLEASE GO AHEAD.

A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF OCTOBER 24TH, 2023.

MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.

I SECOND THE MOTION TO APPROVE.

APPROVE.

AND SECOND CALL FOR A QUESTION.

ANYBODY? OKAY.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

OKAY.

ALL OPPOSED.

ABSTAIN UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

NEW AND UNFINISHED BUSINESS ARTS AND ECONOMIC PROSPERITY SURVEY RESULTS.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT WOULD BE ME.

UM, IN OUR LAST DISCUSSION, UM, I INTRODUCED THE ARTS AND ECONOMIC PROSPERITY SURVEY.

UM, I RECEIVED GREAT FEEDBACK FROM YOU GUYS, BUT ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE HAD WAS, DID WE INCLUDE ARTS IN THE SURVEY? SO I REACHED OUT TO THE AMERICAN FOR THE ARTS, AND THEY DID CONFIRM THAT ARTS WAS, UM, A PART OF THE SURVEY THAT THEY CONDUCTED FOR OUR RESULTS AND OUR FINDINGS.

UM, THE WHAT HAD HAPPENED WAS, UM, BECAUSE WE SUBMITTED ALL OF THE INFORMATION TOGETHER.

SO ARTS WOULD DO THE SURVEYS AT ALL THEIR EVENTS, AND THEN I WOULD GATHER THE, UM, SURVEYS.

I WOULD PICK THEM UP, AND THEN I WOULD SEND THEM WITH ALL OF OUR, WHAT ATTACHED WITH ALL OF OUR OTHER CITY EVENTS.

SO THEY ALL FELL INTO NATIONAL CITY.

SO WHAT WE CAN DO ON OUR END IS WE CAN MAKE AN EDIT ON, UM, OUR DRAFT AND MAKE SURE TO INCLUDE ARTS IN THAT.

OKAY? SOUNDS GOOD.

MM-HMM, , THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT.

SO, UM, NOW WHAT I WILL DO, NOW THAT YOU GUYS HAVE GIVEN ME THE GREEN LIGHT TO MAKE THAT EDIT, I'LL MAKE THAT EDIT AND THEN I'LL SEND IT BACK TO YOU GUYS, AND AT THE NEXT MEETING WE CAN APPROVE THE STUDY.

AND THEN WHAT WE WILL HAVE TO DO IS, BECAUSE THIS WAS, UM, A FUNDED STUDY THROUGH COUNCIL, WE WILL NEED TO GO TO COUNCIL AND SPEAK ON OUR FINDINGS, WHAT THIS STUDY FOUND.

UM, AND THEN ADDITIONALLY, I ALSO WANTED TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW THAT THE COLLABORATIVE HERE IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY, I SENT YOU GUYS AN INVITATION TO THE EVENT THAT'S HAPPENING ON THURSDAY.

MM-HMM.

UM, ATTENDANCE IS NOT MANDATORY.

SO PLEASE, IF YOU, IF YOU'RE NOT AVAILABLE, THAT'S OKAY.

UM, I WILL BE THERE AND I CAN PROVIDE, AND I CAN PROVIDE EVERYONE WITH UPDATES.

UM, JUST TO KIND OF SEE, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE EVENT WAS LIKE, WHAT WE DISCUSSED, WHAT THE COUNTY AS A WHOLE, UM, WOULD LIKE TO DO WITH ITS FINDINGS.

UM, IN DECEMBER, WE HAD ARTS DO THEIR END OF YEAR, UM, PRESENTATION ABOUT LIKE WHAT ARTS HAS DONE IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND JAMES, UM, HE ALSO SPOKE A LITTLE BIT IN REGARDS TO THE A EP SIX FINDINGS.

SO HE KIND OF ALREADY INTRODUCED, UM, SOME OF THE FINDINGS TO OUR COUNCIL.

SO THEN NEXT WE WOULD HAVE TO PICK A COUNCIL DATE ONCE THE PLAN, OR ONCE THE, THE STUDY HAS BEEN APPROVED, SO THAT WAY WE CAN PRESENT THE FINDINGS TO COUNCIL.

AND THEN WITH THAT, HOPEFULLY USE THOSE FINDINGS TO CREATE A CULTURAL ARTS PLAN, WHICH WE'LL DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT LATER.

ANY QUESTIONS? NO DISCUSSION.

WE'LL MOVE ON.

ACTUALLY, SORRY.

OH, WE HAVE A QUESTION.

UM, YEAH.

AND, AND I THINK I MENTIONED IT, TAMARA.

MM-HMM.

.

UM, I AM KIND OF CONVINCED, AS THEY SAY ON THE NEWS TODAY, WITHOUT

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EVIDENCE, THAT THERE MAY BE MORE ORGANIZATIONS, ARTS ORGANIZATIONS IN AND AROUND NATIONAL CITY, AND THAT IT WOULD BE GOOD IF WE KIND OF TOOK THAT ON AT SOME POINT AND TRIED TO BEAT THE BUSHES AND SEE WHAT WE CAN FIND.

I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT.

I'VE STARTED COLLECTING SOME THROUGH DIRECTORIES IN THE PUBLIC LIBRARY.

UM, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT PILE CONTAINS, BUT ANY, ANYHOW, UH, UH, COULDN'T RESULT IN MORE FUNDING COUNTY AND SO ON.

SO THERE WAS A, THERE WAS, UH, ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO, THERE WAS THIS GIGANTIC STUDY WAS THERE.

AND, UH, WHO, WHO DID IT? UH, I, IT WAS PART OF THE CITY.

OKAY.

AND YEAH.

'CAUSE WE HAD A MEETING ABOUT WHAT ORGAN, OUR ORGANIZATIONS, AND MOSTLY IT, IT FELL DOWN FROM THE EDUCATIONAL MM-HMM.

COMPONENT, THAT THERE WAS MOSTLY THE ART VOICE OF THE COMMUNITY.

THERE WERE VARIOUS COMMUNITY ARTISTS, LIKE IN SHOW VISTA, UH, VERY I, PROFESSIONAL ARTISTS WEREN'T IDENTIFIED.

ARTS WASN'T EVEN IN HERE.

I I THINK ARTS WAS JUST BEGINNING TO DO THE SEARCH AT THAT TIME.

BUT THERE, WE, WE REALIZED THAT, UH, WHAT KIND OF ARTISTS ARE WE SPEAKING OF? VISUAL ARTISTS, PERFORMING ARTS.

SO CATEGORIES WEREN'T THERE.

IT WAS MOSTLY VISUAL ARTISTS, COMMUNITY ARTISTS, YOU KNOW.

AND, UH, UH, THE ART, AGAIN, IT, IT FELL INTO THE COM.

THE DISTRICT ARTS COMMITTEES, MOSTLY THE, THE SCHOOLS WERE PROVIDING MOST OF THE ARTS PROGRAMMING.

SO, BUT I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA BECAUSE, UH, WHAT FALLS INTO ART IS, IS THE, IS CAN, CAN, UH, CAN PEOPLE WHO DO SCIENCE, RIGHT? THEY'RE ARTIST.

MM-HMM.

, RIGHT.

PEOPLE WHO DO THE NEON SCIENCE AND ALL THAT STUFF.

GRAPHIC ARTIST CAN BE ARTIST.

AND SO THE IDENTITY OF WHAT IS ART AND WHO IS THE ARTIST HAS TO DO A LOT WITH THE, UH, THE AMOUNT OF ARTISTS THAT YOU SEEK.

YEAH.

I, UM, I'M THINKING THAT ORGANIZATIONS WOULD BE IMPORTANT BECAUSE THEY CAN GET FUNDING, UM, FROM GOVERNMENT AND FROM FOUNDATIONS MAYBE, AND FROM INDIVIDUALS, ASSUMING THEY'RE NONPROFITS.

UM, IT'S, IT IS HARD TO GIVE, UH, MONEY DIRECTLY TO ARTISTS.

RIGHT? I KNOW THAT, NOT FROM MY EXPERIENCE, BUT FROM FRIENDS WHO STARTED A THING TO DO THAT.

AND THEY EVENTUALLY, WITH THEIR FOUNDATION DID IT, BUT THEY SAID IT TOOK FOREVER AGAIN.

BUT, BUT ANYHOW, IF WE COULD GET MORE ORGANIZATIONS ON RECORD, THEN I THINK IN TERMS OF THE COUNTY, MAYBE MONEY, UH, AND ANYBODY ELSE WE CAN THRASH OUT OF THE BUSHES ORGANIZATION.

YEAH.

I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.

YOU SAID THE STUDY WAS DONE HERE IN THE CITY? YEAH, IT WAS, IT WAS A SURVEY BECAUSE THEY, THEY, IN FACT, THEY BUILT A LITTLE NOTEBOOK OF SOME KIND.

IT WAS A EXACTLY A MAILING THING, YOU KNOW, AND LIKE THE CITY OF CHULA VISTA DID IT.

AND I, I THINK NATIONAL CITY DID IT.

AND IT HAD, YOU KNOW, IDENTIFIED LIKE, UH, COMMUNITY ARTISTS.

MM-HMM.

, YOU KNOW, WHO THEY WERE, YOU KNOW, UH, LIKE LET'S SAY JOE LOPEZ DID, DID, DID A, AND THERE WERE SOME MURALISTS THAT WEREN'T EVEN, THEY WERE FROM NATIONAL CITY THAT WORKED, UH, UH, UH, ARTISTS FROM NATIONAL CITY BECAUSE THEY DID MOST OF THEIR WORK IN SAN DIEGO, YOU KNOW.

AND SO IT WAS, IT WAS LIKE, ARE THEY NATIONAL CITY ORGANIZATIONS THAT DO ART FOR THEM? AND I THINK WHEN ARTS CAME, THERE WAS A, THERE WAS THIS WHOLE VERGE OF NEW ART OKAY.

THAT WAS BROUGHT UP, YOU KNOW? AND NOW BECAUSE ART'S BEEN HERE FOR A LONG TIME, THERE ARE YOUNG ARTISTS FROM NATIONAL CITY THAT COULD BE PRACTICING ART THAT WE JUST HAVEN'T CAPTURED WHERE, WHERE THEY WENT OR WHERE, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE PRACTICING EVERYTHING.

SO I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA, ESPECIALLY FOR SURVEYS, BECAUSE, UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE USED AS, YOU KNOW, ALMOST LIKE THE, THE CENSUS, YOU KNOW? YEAH.

AND SINCE WE'RE KIND OF DISCUSSING SURVEYS, IF WE DO WANNA PUT OUT A CULTURAL ARTS PLAN AND BRING THAT TO COUNCIL, PUBLIC OUTREACH SURVEY, THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS THAT COUNCIL'S GONNA ASK US.

OKAY.

BEFORE YOU CREATED THIS PLAN, WHAT STEPS DID YOU TAKE? AS FAR AS GETTING FEEDBACK FROM OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS? SO IF WE CAN, UM, MAYBE, UM, DISCUSS PUTTING A LIST TOGETHER, TRYING TO REACH OUT TO THE DIFFERENT NETWORKS THAT WE MAY HAVE, UM, TO SEE IF WE CAN, YOU KNOW, CREATE A SURVEY TO KIND OF FIND, YOU KNOW, LOCAL ARTISTS AND THEN KIND OF SEE AT THE SAME TIME, SEE WHAT OUR COMMUNITY WOULD LIKE TO SEE AS FAR AS ART GOES HERE IN NATIONAL CITY.

THAT'S GREAT.

I'M HAPPY TO DO THE LEG WORK ON IT TO GET IT STARTED.

OKAY.

I'M THE ONLY RETIREE OR ROOM .

I'LL, I'LL HELP OUT IF YOU OKAY.

THAT'D BE GREAT.

WELL, THANK YOU.

ANY MORNING SESSIONS? WELL, JUST, JUST ONE OTHER THING.

LET'S SAY THERE WERE A BUNCH OF MURALISTS THAT CAN'T GET MONEY FROM THE COUNTY

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OR SOMETHING, BUT IF WE KNEW WHO THEY WERE, WE COULD MAYBE MAKE AN ORGANIZATION A NONPROFIT OF THE UBER JAIL, AND THEN THEY WOULD BE MANAGEABLE RIGHT THERE.

VARIOUS KINDS OF GRANTS.

SO, OKAY.

WELL, I'M SORRY.

JUST TO TAKE IT A LITTLE FURTHER, THAT CAN THEN BE CREATED INTO A COMMUNITY EVENT, LIKE, UH, KIND OF AN ART WALK, SIMILAR TO WHAT THEY HAVE IN LITTLE ITALY, WHERE THE COMMUNITY CAN COME OUT AND PARTICIPATE AND, AND SEE THE ARTISTS THAT ARE LOCAL AND ALLOW THEM TO GIVE THEM A SPACE TO CREATE THEIR ART ALSO.

SO, VERY IMPORTANT.

THERE'S A FEW THINGS THAT CAN HAPPEN WITH SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I LIKE THE IDEA.

AND LAST, I WANNA MENTION, I DID A PLAY ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO WITH A GROUP OF WOMEN AT THE OLIVE PLACE, BUT OLIVE, OLIVE WOOD, GUARDIAN, OLIVE WOOD.

YEAH.

AND THEY SEEM TO OPEN THEIR DOORS A LOT, THAT SORT OF THING.

OH YEAH.

SO THAT WOULD BE ONE OF MY PLACES TO, TO TOUCH BASE WITH AS FAR AS LIKE OPENING THE DOORS FOR ANYTHING THAT'S RELATED.

MM-HMM.

SIMILAR TO OUR AGREEMENT AND OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH ARTS, WE ALSO HAVE AN AGREEMENT IN PARTNERSHIP WITH OLIVE WOOD GARDEN.

FABULOUS.

AND WE, WE LOVE ATTENDING THEIR EVENTS.

THEY'RE ALWAYS ATTENDING OUR EVENTS.

SO I THINK HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM WOULD, WOULD REALLY BE IMPACTFUL.

SOME, I WAS GONNA SAY, MAYBE A PRODUCT THAT, IT COULD BE AN .

I WAS JUST GONNA SAY THAT.

THERE YOU GO.

IT'S A REALLY COOL SPOT.

IT'S HISTORICAL AND NATIONAL CITY.

BE A PRODUCT WORK.

YEAH.

THAT'S SO IMPORTANT.

YOU KNOW? 'CAUSE MOST ART IS MADE IN PRIVATE, AND SO UNLESS YOU HAVE EVENTS YEAH.

NOBODY SEES THAT IT'S GOING ON.

WE, WE DO A LOT OF EVENTS AT PLACE, SO WE WE'RE KIND OF TIED IN WITH A LOT OF NONPROFITS HERE, LIKE NEW GARDENS, A LOT OF THEM.

NICE.

ALMOST SEEMS LIKE, UH, CREATING A PLATFORM FOR THE ART.

MM-HMM.

GIVING THEM THE SPACE TO BE CREATIVE, ALLOWING THEM TO SHOW THE COMMUNITY WHAT IT IS THEY'RE DOING.

YOU KNOW? THERE'S IT.

OKAY.

MM-HMM.

.

OKAY.

NOW WE'RE GOING.

ANY MORE DISCUSSION? OKAY.

ARI, WHO'S FLAG? UM, SO I HAVE A QUICK UPDATE ON THAT.

UM, SO IN THIS OCTOBER WE DISCUSSED, AND JAMES GAVE US A PRESENTATION ON HIS FINDINGS AS FAR AS THE PLAQUE GOES.

SO I REACHED OUT TO, UM, OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.

UM, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WAS BROUGHT UP WAS, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE OTHER, UH, MEDALLIONS OR PLAQUES AROUND THE CITY? WHAT KIND OF MATERIAL ARE THEY MADE OUT OF? IS THERE A, UM, COMPANY, A VENDOR THAT THE CITY MAY HAVE? SO THE CITY DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE A VENDOR.

WE ARE AT WILL TO GO WITH WHOEVER WE WOULD LIKE.

UM, LUCA, OUR ENGINEER, UH, PROVIDED ME WITH, UM, IT'S IN, IT IS, UH, WHAT, IT'S THE DATA AND THE INFORMATION ON HOW BIG THE OTHER MEDALLIONS ARE AROUND NATIONAL CITY.

AND IN, IN THERE IT SAYS THAT IT'S MADE OUT OF CAST BRONZE MET, IT'S A CAST BRONZE MEDALLION.

SO MAYBE IF WE CAN PULL QUOTES TOGETHER TO CREATE THIS, THAT, UH, TO ACTUALLY GO OUT AND GET IT MANUFACTURED.

AND I BELIEVE OUR BUDGET IS, I BELIEVE IT'S 5,000.

5,000, BUT I'LL CROSS CHECK THAT.

YEAH.

AND FROM THE QUOTES THAT JAMES HAD PREVIOUSLY PULLED, IT WAS, IT WAS UNDER $5,000.

AND, UM, WITH HAVING, UM, CONVERSATIONS WITH ENGINEERING, ONE THING IS THAT WE MIGHT HAVE TO COVER THE INSTALLATION OF THE PLAQUE, BUT BASED OFF OF THE QUOTES THAT LUCA IS GOING TO BE GETTING, UM, IT DOESN'T EXCEED A THOUSAND DOLLARS.

I BELIEVE IT WAS LESS.

UM, BUT ONCE I GET THOSE QUOTES, I'LL SEND THEM OUT.

UM, BUT ALSO IN CONVERSATIONS WITH THE OWNER, IT LOOKS LIKE HE'S GOING TO BE REDOING HIS SIDEWALK.

YEAH.

SIDEWALK.

I'M SITTING GONNA GO OVER THERE, UH, AFTER THE MEETING, I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S GONNA BE THERE OR NOT, BUT, MM-HMM.

, UM, HE DID SAY THAT.

AND OF COURSE I HAVEN'T BEEN THERE FOR A FEW MONTHS, ANYTHING.

MM-HMM.

, UH, BUT THE SIDEWALK WAS, YEAH.

WAS WIDENED.

AND HE SAID, WELL, I'LL HOLD IT AS LONG AS I CAN IF YOU WANNA PUT THE, THE PLAQUE.

YEAH.

'CAUSE ANOTHER THING IS WE HAVE TO DECIDE ON WHERE, ON THE PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, SPEAKING TO THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY, AND THEN JUST US AS A COMMITTEE WHERE WE WOULD LIKE TO PLACE THE PLAQUE.

SO I WANTED TO SEE IF YOU GUYS WERE OPEN TO MAYBE, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE TALKED TO THE OWNER, IF MAYBE DOING A SITE VISIT AND GOING OUT TO THE ACTUAL HOUSE AND SEEING WHAT WOULD BE THE BASE, THE BEST PLACEMENT.

BECAUSE AS I WAS HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH LUCA, HE RECOMMENDED MAYBE PUTTING IT SOMEWHERE IN

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THE ACTUAL LANDSCAPING.

UM, BECAUSE WHAT HE'S NOTICED IS THAT AREA HAS A LOT OF TREES.

SO IF, IF WE PLACE IT IN THE SIDEWALK, WHICH IS A GREAT IDEA, LIKE, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T WANT IT TO THE TREE ROOTS TO, YOU KNOW, BREAK UP THE SIDEWALK AND THEN EVENTUALLY BREAK UP THE MEDALLION.

SO, UM, MAYBE IF WE DO A SITE VISIT, WE HAVE, LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE TO SPEAK TO THE OWNERS FIRST.

THAT WAY WE CAN KIND OF GET A VISUALIZATION OF HOW BIG WE WANT THIS PLAQUE TO BE.

BECAUSE, OR THE MEDALLION, I'M SORRY.

BECAUSE EVEN IN THE PICTURES THAT JAMES HAD KIND OF CREATED, UM, THE TEXT THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED DIDN'T QUITE FIT IN THE NINE INCH ROUND.

UM, SO THAT'S WHY HE HAD SUGGESTED THE BIGGER SQUARE, UH, MEDALLION, UM, IN THE LAST POWERPOINT.

SO MAYBE KIND OF GOING BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND THEN ALSO HAVING SOMEONE EITHER FROM ARTS OR VOLUNTEER DESIGN THE, THE MEDALLION AND WORK WITH THE COMPANY, WHOEVER'S GONNA MANUFACTURE IT.

GOT IT.

MM-HMM.

.

YEAH.

WE'RE HAPPY TO HELP HOWEVER, OR LEND, YOU KNOW, SOME OF OUR TEACHING ARTISTS.

YEAH.

SO, UM, IF YOU COULD PROVIDE ME WITH THE OWNER'S INFORMATION, I CAN SURE.

GIVE THEM A CALL.

LET THEM KNOW THAT WE'RE INTERESTED IN DOING A SITE VISIT, AND THEN BASED OFF OF THEIR DATES, UM, IF YOU'RE UNABLE TO ATTEND, WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL TAKE A BUNCH OF PICTURES, VIDEOS AND SEND 'EM OUT.

UM, THAT WAY WE CAN KIND OF GET AN IDEA OF WHERE WE WANNA PLACE THIS PLAQUE.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY AT OUR NEXT MEETING WE CAN, DEPENDING ON HOW QUICKLY WE CAN VISIT THE SITE LOCATION, GET THE DESIGN, YOU KNOW, MAYBE HAVE THE INSTALLATION APPROVED.

SOUNDS GOOD.

YEAH.

ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE A QUESTION.

YES.

SO THE, THE APPROVED TEXT IS SET THAT WE'RE GONNA FOR SURE GO WITH THE TEXT, BUT WE'RE WORKING WITH THE SIZE.

YES.

SO THE APPROVED TEXT THAT LET ME, I THINK I HAVE IT IN THE STAFF REPORT.

I READ IT.

YEAH.

THAT WAS APPROVED, UM, JULY 27TH, 2021.

UM, SO I THINK IT'S JUST WORKING WITH THE TEXT AND FIGURING OUT WHAT THE DESIGN WILL LOOK LIKE.

'CAUSE I THINK EVEN AT ONE POINT WE HAD MENTIONED A QR CODE, BUT WHERE IS THE WEBSITE GONNA LIVE? UH, THE QR CODE WAS JUST TO KIND OF GIVE LIKE A QUICK SUMMARY OF WHO JOHN ARI.

YEAH, EXACTLY.

SO, UH, THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER DISCUSSION IF WE ARE STILL GONNA GO WITH A QR CODE.

I'VE PERSONALLY NEVER SEEN A QR CODE ON A MEDALLION.

UM, BUT I MEAN, THAT'S A CONVERSATION WE CAN, AND I WAS GONNA, I'VE ACTUALLY SEEN IT, UM, AT CEMETERIES, THERE'S QR NICE THAT LINK, LINK OUT TO DIFFERENT MEDIA.

IT'S A NEW THING I'VE SEEN.

UM, BUT I WAS GONNA MENTION TO , UM, ON OUR PAGE, UH, LIKE, SORT OF LIKE A LITTLE, YOU KNOW, SECTION.

BUT WE COULD DO, JUST THROWING THIS OUT THERE SINCE WE ALREADY HAVE ONE WEBSITE, DO A LANDING PAGE.

MM-HMM.

, UM, JUST SPECIFIC TO THIS, UM, IF WE NEEDED TO.

I SO HAPPY TO DO THAT.

THAT'S NOT A BIG DEAL OUT FOR US.

OKAY, PERFECT.

SO YEAH, IF, IF WE DO GO WITH THE QR CODE OPTION AND HAVING ARTS HAVE THE LANDING PAGE FOR THAT QR CODE IS THE, AND, AND I, I GUESS ALSO FEEDBACK, UH, BUT THE QR CODE THAT IF, IF THE TEXT IS TOO MUCH MM-HMM.

IT NEEDS TO REDUCE, THEN WE WOULD COME BACK AT THAT POINT.

OR I MEAN, YOU NEED TO ADD THAT TO THEM EITHER TO, WELL, INSTEAD OF SOME OF THE TEXT, WE NEED TEXT SLIDES.

YEAH.

UM, THAT, THAT CAN ALSO BE OPEN FOR DISCUSSION IF WE WANNA REDUCE SOME OF THE TEXT.

AND THEN I THINK IT'D BE A GREAT IDEA IF, UM, WE CAN BRING THE DESIGNER, WHOEVER'S GONNA BE IN CHARGE OF CREATING THIS MEDALLION FOR US, IF THEY CAN COME IN TO OUR NEXT MEETING FOR SOMETHING AND THAT WAY PROVIDE US SOME INFORMATION.

YOU KNOW, BASED OFF OF MY EXPERIENCE, IF WE CUT THIS DOWN OR IF WE DO THIS, I THINK IT'D MAKE FOR A BETTER MEDALLION.

MM-HMM.

.

YEAH.

JUST TWO THOUGHTS.

MM-HMM.

, UM, IN TERMS OF DESIGN, EVERYTHING BALD ASAR DID WAS SORT OF STREAMLINE AND CLEAN.

IT WOULD BE GOOD TO REP, UM, REPLICATE THAT ALSO.

AND THIS MAY SOUND SELF-SERVING, BUT UM, IT SHOULD BE LEGIBLE.

OH YEAH.

FROM A PERSON, BY A PERSON STANDING WAS BOLS HEIGHT ? THAT'S, THAT'S PARTLY ME.

BUT I'M THINKING SOME ART CRITIC SOMEWHERE, IF WE DON'T DO, THAT'LL SAY, AND THEY DIDN'T EVEN, YOU KNOW, MAKE IT SO JOHN BALDISARI COULDN'T READ IT.

.

YEAH.

THAT'S DEFINITELY THINGS THAT WE CAN TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION.

UH, THERE WAS A QUESTION OF SITE.

YES.

IS THE SITE NOW THE PLACE WHERE THE TREE AND ALL THAT

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SIDEWALK? IS THAT WHERE WE'RE GONNA DO IT? 'CAUSE WE, WE, WE'VE BEEN EVERYWHERE.

MM-HMM.

, WE'VE BEEN ALL, ALL ALL OVER THE MAP.

WHERE SYKES WHERE, YES.

SO I WILL HAVE A MEETING WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEYS, UM, JUST TO SEE WHAT KIND OF DOCUMENTATION WE WILL NEED, IF WE WILL NEED ANYTHING.

UM, BUT I, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, UH, MR. RILEY, UH, HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE OWNERS AND THEY'RE ON BOARD WITH, UM, US INSTALLING THE PLAQUE.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE ON BOARD WITH IT.

QUITE DELIGHTED.

EXACTLY.

YEAH.

UM, OKAY.

SO, AND IT'S JUST A WONDERFUL FAMILY, THE FOUR BOYS, AND THEY'RE ALL GORGEOUS AND HAPPY AND EXCITED LIKE KIDS.

IT'S GREAT.

THAT'S AWESOME.

AND, AND JUST ONE LAST QUESTION, AND BECAUSE I'M SO IGNORANT ABOUT THIS.

UH, WHAT ABOUT THE UPKEEP OF THE PLAQUES AND, AND THE FADING AWAY OF A TEXT AND MM-HMM.

, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S GRAFFITI OR, UH, IS THAT, IS THAT COMMUNITY GRAFFITI, UH, CLEANED OR? SO, UH, I ALSO SPOKE WITH, UM, OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT ON THAT.

SO IF FOR WHATEVER REASON THE PLAQUE DOES GET DAMAGED, UM, THE CITY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO REPLACE IT.

HOWEVER, IF IT'S SOMETHING LIKE GRAFFITI OR IT'S DIRTY, THEN WE CAN ASK OUR PUBLIC WORKS TEAM TO GO OUT THERE OR, OR A GRAFFITI TEAM TO GO OUT THERE AND REMOVE THE GRAFFITI.

UM, WHICH IS WHY LUCA WAS SAYING, IF YOU GUYS PUT IT IN THE CONCRETE AND IT GETS UPROOTED, THE THE CITY'S NOT LIABLE OF REPLACING IT.

THAT'S WHY, UM, HE SUGGESTED MAYBE PUTTING IT SOMEWHERE IN THE LANDSCAPING WHERE IT IS NOT RIGHT.

IT'S NOT SURROUNDED BY TREES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

MM-HMM.

IS THERE, IS THERE INSURANCE FOR THIS KIND OF STUFF OR WHAT, WHAT, IS THERE AN, IS THERE OUR INSURANCE? I, I AM NOT TOO SURE.

UM, AND WE CAN ASK THE VENDOR, WHOEVER IS, UM, GOING TO BE MANUFACTURING THIS IF THEY HAVE SOME TYPE OF INSURANCE OR SOMETHING.

YEAH.

BECAUSE AT THE PUBLIC ARTS ADVISORY COUNCIL THAT WE, WHEN WE USED TO HAVE THE MEETINGS OF INSTALLATION, RIGHT? WAS THERE WAS, WAS THE CITY, DID THE CITY INSURED THE R OR WAS THEY ALREADY INSURED, IS WHAT I'M SAYING.

RIGHT.

WHERE THEFT OR DAMAGE AND STUFF.

AND HOW LONG DID WE EXPECT THAT SCULPTURE TO LIVE ON THAT PROPERTY? 'CAUSE IT HAS A LIFETIME, RIGHT? YEAH.

SOME, SOME DO.

UH, UH, BECAUSE OF THE WEATHER.

MM-HMM.

, UH, AND MOSTLY, YOU KNOW, UH, WITH THE CONTACT RIGHT.

DEVELOPMENT, FOR INSTANCE, DEVELOPERS CAN COME AND GO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE'RE BUILDING SOMETHING ELSE HERE.

MM.

SO, UH, THE QUESTION FOR ME WAS ALWAYS, AND, AND AS AN ARTIST, YOU KNOW, UH, WE, WE WENT EVERYTHING KY DORY AND, AND THERE IS THE CITY TAKING CARE OF THE CLEAN AND STUFF, IS THERE INSURANCE OF ART? I DON'T KNOW.

I I'M TOTALLY IGNORANT.

AND IT IS, IT'S A COST.

IF THE PLAQUE COST 5,000, THEN THE INSURANCE IS LIKE 10,000 IMPORTANT, YOU KNOW, SO THAT, THAT WAS A DISCUSSION.

I, I DON'T KNOW.

YOU, YOU, YOU MIGHT KNOW THAT.

THAT'S IT.

I'M HAPPY TO LOOK INTO THAT FOR SOME OF OUR OTHER PUBLIC WORKS, JUST WHAT PROTOCOL IS AND BEST PRACTICES FOR INSURANCE AND WHETHER IT'S A CIVIC OR PRIVATE ENTITY, UM, I CAN TALK TO OUR INSURANCE FOLKS TO SEE HOW WE HANDLE THAT.

FOR SURE.

THAT WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD THING, JUST TO KNOW, I THINK.

YEAH.

OKAY.

YEAH.

THE OTHER THING I'M THINKING TOO, AS WELL IS, UH, UH, USUALLY WHEN YOU HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT, ISN'T IT, ISN'T THE COST TAKE TO ACCOUNT THE FACT THAT THEY PREPARE IT? SO IF WE GET AN EXTRA COPY FOR SOME REASON, IS THAT, WELL, IT'S NOT A BAD IDEA.

THAT'S TRUE.

THEY'RE CUSTOMIZED.

YEAH.

THAT WAY IT MIGHT CUT ON THE COST REPLACEMENT FUNCTIONS.

YEAH.

SWITCH OFF HERE.

THOUGHTS.

OKAY.

ANYMORE WITH, OKAY.

KIMBALL PARK BASKETBALL COURT, BLACKBOARD.

IS THAT A ARCH THING? THAT'S YOU.

MM-HMM.

.

HI EVERYONE, MY NAME IS VICTOR GARCIA.

FOR THOSE OF YOU DON'T KNOW NAMES.

I'M THE CITY'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MANAGER AND ALSO ACTING DIRECTOR FOR LEADING SERVICES AMONGST A COUPLE OTHER THINGS.

UM, TODAY I'LL BE SPEAKING ON THE BASKETBALL MURAL THAT WAS APPROVED BY, UH, THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE A WHILE BACK.

UM, SO SINCE THEN, THE MURAL AND THE RESURFACING, THE BASKETBALL COURT HAS BEEN COMPLETED.

UM, IF YOU GUYS HAVEN'T CHECKED IT OUT, I DEFINITELY ENCOURAGE YOU TO CHECK IT OUT.

A COUPLE NUANCES TO THE, TO THE BASKETBALL COURT IS OBVIOUSLY WAS RESURFACED ALSO.

SO RESURFACED.

UM, WE HAD THE MURAL APPLIED, BUT THEN ALSO ADDITIONAL, WE HAD GOLFERS INSTALLED.

GOLFERS IS, UH, MADE UP FOR IT, OBVIOUSLY BETWEEN GOALS AND GOLF, UH, GOLFERS, SORRY ABOUT THAT, .

AND, UM, AND SO THAT WAS DONATED BY A COMPANY NAMED, OR A NONPROFIT BY THE NAME OF OVER UNDER INITIATIVE.

AND THOSE WERE INSTALLED ALSO AS PART OF THIS PROJECT.

THEY ARE AFFILIATED WITH WAVE

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FC.

THEY FORMERLY WERE WELL, UH, ASSOCIATED WITH THE LOYALS, BUT OBVIOUSLY LOYALS ARE NO LONGER AROUND.

SO NOW IT'S WAVE FC.

AND, UM, THIS PROJECT ACTUALLY TURNED OUT VERY WELL.

UM, WHEN IT WAS FIRST COMPLETED, I WENT TO GO VISIT IT.

AND, UH, ALAN FROM DYNAMO, UM, HAD MENTIONED TO ME, WELL, WE BOTH NOTICED THAT IT WAS VERY BEAUTIFUL, BUT WE STILL HAD THE, UH, ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM ON THE BACK.

MM-HMM.

THE BACKBOARDS WERE STILL VERY BEAT UP, UM, YOU KNOW, WEATHER LIST.

AND, UH, SO HE KIND OF BROUGHT UP, HEY, WHY DON'T WE EXTEND THE MURAL INTO THE BACKBOARDS? UM, AND I THOUGHT IT WAS A NICE CREATIVE IDEA.

I'M A BIG FAN OF PAINTING OLD STUFF, AND SO I DEFINITELY SUPPORTED THE IDEA.

UM, MY IMMEDIATE CONCERN WAS ADDITIONAL COSTS AND SCOPE OF THE WORK.

BUT AFTER SPEAKING WITH PUBLIC WORKS, UM, WE DETERMINED THAT AS LONG AS THERE'S NEW, NO NEW INCURRED COSTS, IT STILL FALLS WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THE ORIGINAL MURAL.

AND SO SINCE THERE IS NO NEW COST ASSOCIATED WITH PAINTING THE, BECAUSE IT'S STILL THE SAME PAINT, STILL SAME ARTIST, SAME EVERYTHING, I THINK THEY HAVE EXTRA PAINT.

SO IT'S, UH, IT'S COSTING, COSTING THROUGH.

AND SO, UH, FROM THAT TIME TILL NOW, OUR PUBLIC WORKS HAVE REMOVED THE BACKBOARDS, PAINTED THE POST, UH, AND REFINISHED THE BACK CORDS, JUST SOLID WHITE.

UM, CAN'T REMEMBER IF WE PUT NEW RIMS OR WE JUST PAINTED THE RIMS, BUT THEY LOOKED NEW.

AND WE PUT NEW, UH, BEST WALNUTS.

SO NOW IT LOOKS COMPLETE, BUT WE STILL HAVE THE, THE WHITE BLANK CANVAS.

AND SO ALAN FROM DYNAMO PUT TOGETHER THESE SIX, UH, MOCK UP FOR YOU GUYS TO REVIEW AND, UM, TO THIS DISCUSS DELIBERATE AND MAKE A DECISION ON WHICH ONE YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE IMPLEMENTED TO FINISH UP THE MURAL.

UM, WE'VE ALREADY PREPPED.

PART ONE ASPECT IS JUST TO KIND OF PAINT THE WHOLE PICTURE IS THAT, UM, ALAN WAS ALSO CONSIDERING THE, UM, THE BASKETBALL POSTS LIKE A MAP BLACK, UM, TO KIND OF TIE IN A LITTLE BIT OF THE THEME.

I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'RE FOR SURE I DO THAT, BUT YOU CAN MENTION THAT.

UM, BUT TODAY REALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS DESIGN OF THE BACKBOARD.

UM, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU GUYS WANT TO DELIBERATE FIRST AND THEN GIVE, UM, WHAT ALAN AND I DISCUSSED AS HIS SUGGESTION.

BUT I THINK FOR THE SAKE OF GOOD CONVERSATION, WHY DON'T YOU GUYS DELIBERATE AND I DON'T WANT TO INFORM JUDGMENT ON IT.

AND WE'LL GO, DO YOU HAVE A, A RENDERING OF THE, OF THE FLOOR RIGHT NOW? I REMEMBER I SENT YOU THE, THE REASON I'M ASKING IS IT HAS TO DO A LOT WITH THE CONTINUITY FROM THE GROUND UP.

YEAH.

OH YEAH.

LET ME, I'M, I APOLOGIZE, BUT I DON'T REMEMBER.

NO, THAT MAKES SENSE.

YOU WANT BE COHESIVE .

WELL, YEAH, BUT THERE'S, IT IS ALSO A FUNCTION FOLLOWS FORM.

IT'S A, IT'S A BASKETBALL COURT.

YEAH.

AND SO, UH, ONE OF THE IDEAS IS, UH, HOW IT WORKS AS A BASKETBALL COURT, NOT ONLY AS AN ART MM-HMM.

.

SO IF I, IF I'M A BASKETBALL PLAYER, AND YOU KNOW, MY SITE IS ON THAT RIM, RIGHT? YEAH.

UH, THE BACKBOARD HAS A LOT TO DO WITH WHERE I'M GONNA SHOOT.

SO I THINK THE DESIGN HAS TO BE SIMPLE, BUT THE, THE FLOOR IS BEAUTIFUL, BUT I THINK IF I REMEMBER IT RIGHT, MM-HMM.

THE, THE CORD.

YEAH.

BUT SEE THAT THE, THE MOST REFLECTIVE DESIGN ON HERE THAT'S, UH, KIND OF MIMICS THE MURAL ON THE BASKETBALL COURT WOULD BE NUMBER THREE.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

THAT'S THE ONE THAT NUMBER THREE, RIGHT? I SAY LOOKS THE MOST LIKE THE NUMBER THREE.

NUMBER THREE.

THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.

YEAH.

THERE YOU GO.

YEAH, I LIKE THAT.

I LIKE ONE, TWO OR THREE .

THAT'S THREE MM-HMM MM-HMM.

.

UH, BECAUSE I, I, BECAUSE WHAT YOU WERE SAYING.

YEAH.

YEAH.

UM, YEAH.

WELL THAT WAS ALAN'S FAVORITE ALSO, NUMBER THREE.

CAN I ASK YOU SOMETHING? UH, UH, THE BASKETBALL COURT SIDE, THE TALL, ARE THEY LEGAL SIZE OR IS THERE, IS THERE, LIKE, I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS IN JUNIOR HIGH, IT WAS REALLY NEAT 'CAUSE YOU COULD PLAY AT THAT LEVEL.

IS THERE, IS THERE, IS THERE HOW MANY NETS IN, IN, IN BASKETBALL? IS THERE JUST ONE COURT? THERE'S JUST ONE COURT.

OKAY.

SO I GOT IT.

AND IT'S TWO BACKWARDS, OBVIOUSLY.

UM, JUST TO KIND OF ADD TO WHAT YOU'RE SPEAKING ABOUT, WHICH TO ME SOUNDS LIKE FUNCTIONALITY.

SO THERE'S THE, OBVIOUSLY THE AESTHETIC, BUT ALSO THE FUNCTIONALITY, ALL OF IT OF THE COURT.

SOMETHING TO NOTICE THAT THIS COURT IS DEFINITELY NOT REGULATION SIZE.

OKAY.

IT WAS SHRUNKEN DOWN A

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LITTLE BIT ALSO TO BE MODIFIED, UH, FOR THE GOLFERS.

UM, SO THERE IS THAT ASPECT.

UM, WE'RE NOT GONNA UPROOT THE BACKBOARD POST AND PUT IT.

AND, AND THIS DEFINITELY ISN'T A TYPE OF PORT THAT WOULD BE PROGRAMMED FOR ANY TYPE OF, UM, TOURNAMENT OR ANY TYPE OF OFFICIAL BUSINESS.

THIS IS VERY MUCH A LEISURE COURT.

AND EVEN IF WE WERE TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF TOURNAMENT LIKE THAT, IT WOULD BE AT OUR OFFICIAL GYM.

I SEE.

OKAY.

WELL, THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW.

SO THIS WOULD JUST BE PICK UP GAMES AND, YOU KNOW, FATHER SON TYPE STUFF.

IS THIS THE SIZE ALSO FOR PICKLED BALL? NO.

OKAY.

NO.

UM, WE'LL BE HAVING PICKLE BALL COURTS AT ALTOON AND THE REMODEL OF THE PARK, BUT THIS IS GONNA BE JUST BASKETBALL.

AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE THE ADDED ELEMENT OF THE GOLFERS, SO IT'LL ALSO BE FOR STREETS OFF.

UM, ANY MORE DISCUSSION? YOU GUYS, YOU WANNA DISCUSS THE WHAT, ? WELL, I'LL GO ON THE TABLE AND SEE.

WHAT ABOUT, GO AHEAD.

I PERSONALLY LIKE NUMBER FOUR BECAUSE I THINK IT CREATES CONTRAST BETWEEN THE COLOR, BUT THAT'S JUST MY PERSONAL, MY HIGHEST DRAWN TO THAT, EVEN SEEING THE, THE MURAL ITSELF.

SO THAT'S MY CHOICE.

OKAY.

SIMILARLY, I CAN'T CALL A SPECIFIC ONE THAT I LOVE, BUT I AGREE.

I NEED A LITTLE CONTRAST FOR THE EYE.

AND I'M JUST THINKING, ESPECIALLY EVEN IF THERE REALLY ANYONE WITH LIKE A SENSORY KIND OF, UM, PERCEPTION GOING ON, IT WOULD BE NICE TO ACCOMMODATE.

UM, I THAT, THAT'S GOOD.

UH, I THINK THE ONES WITH THE , AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S JUST THE IMAGE, LIKE TO ME IT SORT OF HAS LIKE A MOVEMENT TO IT, WHICH I THINK MIGHT FILL YOU OFF OF ME DOING THE MM-HMM.

THE SHOTS.

SO, BUT I WAS LOOKING AT MORE OF THE SIMPLER ONES.

UM, BUT I MEAN, I, I WAS, AND THEN I, I WAS LOOKING ALSO AT THE, UH, THE ORANGE.

SO I THINK THAT WOULD MAKE IT STAND OUT.

UM, I DO LIKE THE ONE AND TWO.

I THINK THEY, THEY, THEY INCORPORATE THE COLORS OF THAT AREA TOO MORE.

AND THEN I WAS ALSO WONDERING WHETHER IT'S, AGAIN, AS YOU WERE MENTIONING THE FUN, I MEAN, IT'S LIKE THAT SIDE IS BLUE, THIS SIDE IS GREEN, GREEN AND IT'S IN THE MIDDLE.

MM-HMM.

, IF THERE WERE SOLID COLOR, I'M WONDERING JUST IF LIKE THERE WAS A BLUE AND THE BLUE, UH, GREEN ON THE GREEN, THAT STANDS OUT.

AND THEN I ALSO, I'M, I'M JUST WONDERING LIKE IN TERMS OF THE PLAYABILITY REPORT, THE FOCUS, I NEED , SO THAT WAS MY THOUGHTS.

BUT, UH, UH, I DO AGREE THAT NUMBER THREE GOES MORE WITH THE ART ASPECT OF IT.

UH, BUT THEN I ALSO SEE LIKE ONE AND TWO BEING LESS BASIC.

UM, I'M SORRY, MY TURN.

, I DO AGREE WITH YOU ON THE ONE, TWO, AND THREE, JUST, UM, BECAUSE THEY DO GO WITH THE DESIGN A LITTLE BIT MORE.

I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE ORANGE AROUND THE EDGE A LOT.

JUST, I DON'T KNOW, IT SEEMS LIKE A FOCUS POINT TO SHOOT FOR THAT HOLE KIND OF THING.

YEAH.

I WONDER IF YOU GUYS LIKE ONE OF THE ONE, TWO, AND THREE, IF WE CAN ADD ORANGE TO IT.

I THINK WHAT HE, WHAT THE ARTIST HAS DONE IS PUT ORANGE ON THE LIGHTER COLORS AND WHITE ON THE DARKER COLORS FOR PURPOSES FOR A PURPOSE.

OKAY.

CONTRAST, I CAN SEE THAT TOO.

OH, OKAY.

I DO, I I WOULD PREFER ONE, TWO, OR THREE AND JUST AS, AS A VOTE, UM, ME PERSONALLY, I LIKE NUMBER FIVE MM-HMM.

JUST BECAUSE IT'S LIKE NATIONAL CITY COLOR.

IT'S LIKE THE TAR HILL, UNC TAR HILL COLOR WITH THE WHITE AND THE BLUE.

UM, PLUS IT CONTRASTS THAT DESIGN QUITE A BIT.

AND IT HAS THE SAFETY ORANGE FOR WHEN YOU'RE SHOOTING.

IT'S EASIER TO SEE.

BUT IF I, IF, IF NO ONE ELSE LIKED THAT, I WOULD SAY NUMBER THREE.

THAT WAS MY SECOND MONTH, MY SECOND DRUG.

I DO WANNA JUST ADD ONE COMMENT SOMEONE SUGGESTED TO ME.

SO FOR LOOKING, SORRY ABOUT LOOKING, UH, THREE, THEY WERE SAYING THAT WHY DON'T, WHY IS, WHY ISN'T IT TWO VERSIONS OF THIS? SO THIS VERSION BEING ON THIS SIDE OF THE COURT, SO THAT THE GREEN FLOWS INTO THE GREEN AND THEN FLIP IT SO THAT THE BLUE IS ON THE BOTTOM AND THEN IT FLOWS FROM THE BLUE TO THE BLUE AND THE BACK DOOR.

UM, I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW THAT THAT WAS TOLD TO ME BY SOMEONE.

SO JUST TO CONSIDER ANOTHER OPTION.

UM, YEAH, I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THE, ON THE, UM, BOARDS.

I THINK A HAS DONE A GOOD JOB AND PROBABLY HAS GOOD JUDGMENT ABOUT HOW TO PROCEED ON THE POLL.

I DO HAVE A, A SUGGESTION TO THINK VERY, VERY HARD ABOUT PAINTING A BLACK, PARTICULARLY FLAT BLACK.

I, I HAVE SEEN SOMEBODY RUN INTO ONE PLAYING, AND I THINK PRETTY IT'S CURRENTLY

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DISAPPEAR.

IT, LUCKILY IT GOT REFINISHED BY OUR PAINT, UM, PERSON HERE, UH, JAMES KIM.

SO IT IS JUST A SILVER METAL COLOR, TO BE HONEST.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE SAFER BET ANYWAYS, JUST TO KIND OF LEAVE IT ALONE.

BE SURE TO PICK UP YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

I JUST LET OUT AND RUN WITH IT AT, AT THE BEGINNING, BUT SINCE WE DID REFINISH IT ALREADY, I THINK WE DON'T NEED TO DOUBLE, DOUBLE WORK ON IT.

YEAH.

THE SUPPOSED TO HAVE A TENDENCY TO RUST, SO IT IS, IT IS, YOU KNOW, I BEEN THERE SO I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE.

UH, UH, CRAPPY , UH, AND YOU HAVE TO CLEAN 'EM, YOU KNOW, UH, IF THEY'RE NOT TREATED WITH PAINT AND THEY'RE JUST STEEL, BUT NOT ONLY RUST, BUT THEY GET REALLY DIRTY.

AND SO, UH, I THINK PAINT, UH, IS PROBABLY THE BEST.

WHATEVER IT IS.

THAT'S, THAT'S A NEUTRAL PAINT, YOU KNOW? UH, AND, AND THE QUESTION ABOUT SAFETY, IT HAS TO DO WITH THE LIGHTING TOO, TO USE A NIGHT, DAY OR WHATEVER.

WHEN IS THE U WHEN IS THE COURT GONNA BE USED MORE? WHEN IS ITS FUNCTION? THE, THE BUSIEST TIME? SO, UH, AND SO YOU'RE WOR YOU'RE WORKING ON DAYLIGHT AND NIGHTTIME, RIGHT? SO IF IT'S NOT NIGHT, IF THERE'S NO LIGHTS, IT'S ALL DAYLIGHT.

SO THE, THE, THE COLORS AND THE REFLECTION OF THE POLE HAVE TO COMPLIMENT.

NATURE IS WHAT IT IS.

LIGHT AND DAY, ALL STUFF.

BUT I, I, I ALWAYS WORRY ABOUT NOT ONLY THE POLE, BUT ITS STRUCTURE UNDERNEATH, YOU KNOW, THE RUSTING AND THE WHOLE THING.

AND, UH, IT'S, IT IS A MATTER OF OUTSIDE TAKING CARE OF IT.

SO I, I I, I THINK PAINTING IS THE EASIEST WAY TO, UH, MITIGATE NATURAL DISASTERS.

YEAH.

RIGHT.

YEAH.

SO WHATEVER IT IS.

AND YOU SAID THAT THEY PAINTED IT LIKE A GRAY COLOR? YEAH.

BASICALLY JUST KIND OF RESTORED.

YEAH, IT'S, IT'S, YEAH.

BASICALLY REFINISH, RIGHT? THAT'S ALL.

IT'S ANYMORE DISCUSSIONS.

WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HELPS YOU.

UH, IT WASN'T UNANIMOUS, BUT IT WAS, IT WAS, IT WAS INTERESTING.

I THINK, UH, MOST PEOPLE LIKE ONE, TWO, OR THREE.

AND I THINK THREE IS, UH, GOT A COUPLE MORE VOTES.

AND THEN I LIKE HER IDEA TOO.

UH, UH, IT'S JUST LIKE I SAID, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PLAYING BASKETBALL , SO YOU GUYS HAVE TO MAKE A VOTE.

OH, WE DO HAVE TO HAVE TO VOTE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

UH, ALL LOOK AT IT.

BE SURE.

BE SURE YOU KNOW, .

OKAY.

ALL IN FAVOR? ONE.

OKAY.

ALL IN FAVOR OF TWO.

THEY ALL IN FAVOR OF THREE.

OKAY.

ALL IN FAVOR? 4, 5, 4 IS ONE.

NO.

OKAY.

I THINK WE GOT, OKAY.

FIVE.

FIVE.

OKAY.

SIX.

YOU GOT YOUR BOOK? CAN I JUST ADD, I, I DID LIKE THE IDEA OF SWITCHING THE COLORS, SO I'M WONDERING IF WE CAN MAYBE CONSIDER THAT.

YEAH, THAT'S THE ADDENDUM TO THE, TO THE CHOICE THAT YOU SAID.

THE ORANGE.

THE ORANGE.

NO, IT'D BE THE SWITCHING OUT THE GREEN AND THE BLUE, RIGHT? YEAH.

MAKE A GREEN IS PRIMARY THE GREEN SIDE OF THE COURT.

YEAH.

CAN I JUST CLEAR UP ONE ASPECT OF THAT MOTION ALSO? UM, YOU COULD ALSO INCLUDE IN THAT MOTION, IF YOU'D LIKE TO ADD THE ORANGE SAFETY SQUARE IF YOU'D LIKE, UM, JUST TO PUT IT OUT THERE.

'CAUSE I KNOW I HEARD THAT OPTION, SO YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION TO DO ANYTHING YOU WANT ON TOP OF THAT.

IF YOU WANTED TO MAKE THAT INTO THE ORANGE.

UM, TO THIS POINT THAT IT KIND OF ADDS A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THE SAFETY AND HIGHLIGHT.

'CAUSE IT IS A LITTLE BIT DARKER THAN MOST OF THE OTHER ONES.

YOU, YOU ALL KNOW.

OKAY.

I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.

I THINK THAT WOULD WORK.

SO THEN DO WE MORE WELCOME? YES.

NOW WITH AMENDED.

OKAY.

YEAH.

SO I'M, I'M, I'M MOTION WOULD BE TO HAVE NUMBER THREE WITH THE COLORS ALTERNATING BASED ON THE BOTTOM TO MATCH AND THE ORANGE SAFETY, SAFETY TION.

OKAY.

I SECOND MOTION.

IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND.

OKAY.

ANY MORE DISCUSSION? CALL FOR THE QUESTION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? BOTH OPPOSED? IT'S UNANIMOUS.

I I LIKE THE WHITE.

I'M SORRY.

MOTION.

MOTION PASSES.

YEAH.

YEAH.

IT WOULDN'T IMPROVE MY SHOOTING.

I KNOW THAT IT MIGHT HELP OTHERS.

OKAY.

MOVING ON.

WE HAVE A REASON TO SURVIVE UPDATE.

OKAY.

FANTASTIC.

OH, GO AHEAD.

OH, UM, I WAS JUST GONNA INTRODUCE, SO, UM, AS SOME OF US MAY KNOW, UH, JAMES IS NO LONGER WITH ARTS.

HIS LAST DAY WAS ON DECEMBER 23RD.

UM, HE WAS A GREAT ASSET TO OUR C OUR LITTLE, UH, COMMITTEE HERE.

WE WILL MISS HIM.

BUT IN THE MEANTIME, WE HAVE MS. LUCY HERE.

SHE IS GOING TO BE GIVING US THE

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UPDATES FOR ARTS.

SO JUST REALLY QUICKLY, UM, I CAME ON AS OUR DIRECTOR OF ADVANCEMENT BACK IN AUGUST.

UM, SO I DO A LOT OF OUR CONTRACTING WITH ALL OF OUR SCHOOLS, UM, YOU KNOW, NATIONAL SCHOOL DISTRICTS INCLUDED IN THAT, UH, GRANTS GRANT WRITING, UM, AND ALL OF OUR BASICALLY FUNDRAISING.

UM, AND SO ROUNDING INTO THE NEW YEAR, UH, THIS WAS A NEW POSITION CREATED.

UM, AND THEN JAMES, UH, DEPARTED.

SO I'M SORT OF THE LIAISON TO, TO COMMITTEES LIKE THIS BOARD AND OUR STAFF.

UM, SO I WILL BE REPRESENTING ARTS, UH, UNTIL OUR NEW EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR IS HIRED.

UM, WE ARE STILL ACTIVELY ON THE SEARCH.

JANUARY 30TH IS THE DEADLINE.

UM, SO WE KNOW OF ANYONE, UM, DIRECT 'EM OUR WAY.

IT'S ALL POSTED ON OUR WEBSITE AND LINKEDIN.

UM, JUST INFORMATION ABOUT THE ROLE IN THE POSITION AND THE BOARD SEARCH COMMITTEE WILL BE CONDUCTING INTERVIEWS IN FEBRUARY WITH THE GOAL OF STARTING SOMEONE SOMETIME IN MARCH, APRIL AT THE LATEST.

UM, WE KNOW JAMES WILL HAVE VERY BIG SHOES TO FILL, AND SO WE ARE LOOKING FOR THAT RIGHT FIT THAT RIGHT PERSON THAT UNDERSTANDS ARTS EDUCATION, DO COLLECTIVE ACTION MOST IMPORTANTLY.

UM, AND THEN JUST ONE THING THAT I'LL PROBABLY BE LIAISONING WITH, I LOOKING FOR GRANTS TO PARLAY ON TO SOME OF THE PUBLIC ART PROJECTS LIKE THE SISTER CITY GATEWAY AND OTHER PROJECTS, UM, THAT WE'RE PARTNERING ON TOGETHER.

SO I AM VERY ACTIVELY KEEPING MY EYE OPEN FOR FUND FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES TO KIND OF BRING INTO THOSE, UM, TO REALLY SORT OF BUILD, UM, YOU KNOW, COLLECTIVE FUNDRAISING MODEL AROUND THOSE LARGE PROJECTS THAT I KNOW HAVE BIG TIMELINES.

UM, BUT A LOT OF REALLY IMPORTANT THANK YOU ALL FOR HAVING ME.

IT'S BEEN AN HONOR TO JUST KIND OF HEAR, UH, EVERYTHING GOING ON AND I'M EXCITED TO CONTINUE OUR WORK TOGETHER, UM, IN .

WELL, THANK YOU AND HAPPY NEW YEAR AND THANK YOU.

MY SUCCESS TO YOU AND WE'RE HERE TO SUPPORT YOU AND HELP YOU OUT.

THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT.

WE'RE SUCH GREAT NEIGHBORS.

, OKAY.

UH, PORT OF SAN DIEGO ARTS AND CULTURE DESIGN COMMITTEE UPDATE.

SO WE DON'T HAVE THE REPRESENTATIVE HERE, SO WE'LL TABLE THAT FIRST.

OKAY.

WE'LL TABLE THAT.

MM-HMM, .

OKAY.

STAFF COMMENTS.

UM, NO COMMENTS ON MY END.

ONCE AGAIN, THANK JUST ONE.

ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR PATIENCE.

UM, AS WE TRY TO, YOU KNOW, PUT THINGS TOGETHER AND MOVE THINGS IN MOTION.

UM, IF WE DO HAVE, I'LL, YOU KNOW, COMMUNICATE WITH LUCY IF WE DO HAVE ANY, UM, KIND OF UPDATES ON THE BALDESSARI PLAQUE, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING, UM, MAYBE I'LL SHOOT YOU GUYS AN EMAIL.

SEE, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE DESIGN OR WE HAVE MORE INFORMATION FROM THE VENDOR.

WHAT, WHAT WE'RE GOING WITH.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A SITE VISIT THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO.

MAYBE WE CAN PULL A SPECIAL MEETING OR SOMETHING IN CASE THAT WAY WE CAN KIND OF GET THE BALL ROLLING ON THAT PROJECT.

THAT WAY WE CAN FINISH UP MM-HMM, ANY MORE? OKAY.

COMMITTEE MEMBER COMMENTS, SPONSOR ANNOUNCEMENTS, SELLING ANYTHING.

OKAY.

WELL TALK ABOUT THAT.

I'M DELIGHTED TO HAVE MYRA ON BOARD.

SHE'S TWO STEPS AHEAD OF US.

IT'S WONDERFUL.

YEAH.

WELL, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU GUYS.

YOU GOT A LOT OF STUFF GOING HONEY.

.

CONGRATULATIONS.

QUESTION.

YES.

OKAY.

AND THE DATE AND TIME OF THE NEXT OH, WE HAVE A QUESTION.

I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION.

GO AHEAD.

THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH , BUT SO YOU KNOW HOW LIKE A LOT OF THE COMMUNITIES IN SAN DIEGO HAVE THOSE SIGNS OVER, LIKE THEIR FAMOUS BOULEVARD LIKE EL CAJON.

YEAH.

GATEWAY SCIENCE.

WHY DOESN'T HIGHLAND HAVE ONE? LIKE HAVE YOU GUYS EVER TRIED TO DO THAT? LIKE GET A NATIONAL CITY SIGN OVER OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? OR IS THAT JUST WAY TOO HARD? UH, WELL, I WON'T BE THE HISTORIAN TO ANSWER THAT, BUT I CAN GIVE YOU MY 2 CENTS ON IT.

UM, I KNOW THAT THE CITY KIND OF LEANS ON THE, UM, HEAD BRIDGE ON EIGHTH AND KIND OF THEIR GATEWAY.

OH YEAH.

MM-HMM.

.

UM, HOWEVER, UNBEKNOWNST TO MOST PEOPLE, WE ACTUALLY DO HAVE GATEWAY ENTRANCE SIGNS, KIND OF, UH, HISTORICAL, UH, THING.

SO IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE 24TH STREET AND FIVE UHHUH , ONE WITH THE CURRENT BUILDING THAT USED TO BE AMERICAN, WELLS FARGO, YADA, YADA, AT THAT CORNER, THERE'S ACTUALLY A BOAT MC COLOR, AND THAT IS ONE OF OUR GATEWAY SIGNS.

UM, AND THEN ON DIVISION, UH, RIGHT THERE IN DIVISION WHERE KIND OF THE V IN THE ROAD MAIN, LIKE MAIN ON MAIN, THERE'S A BIG BOAT, INDUSTRIAL DIESEL ENGINE, PRO BOAT.

SO THOSE MAY NOT BE SO REFLECTIVE OF WHAT OUR CURRENT, UH, DEMOGRAPHIC IS, BUT IT IS PART OF OUR HISTORY.

SO THAT IS THERE.

I HAVE SPOKEN TO PUBLIC WORKS IN THE PAST ABOUT BEAUTIFYING IT.

UM, NOW LET'S BRING IT UP.

IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE WIDER, UH, W-Y-Y-E-R-D, THEY'RE A NEW TELECOMMUNICATION COMPANY THAT'S, UM, HEADQUARTERED THERE IN, UH, THE 24TH STREET BUILDING, THE BROWN BUILDING.

THEY'RE, UH, FIBER

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INTERNET COMPANY PROVIDER FOR RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL TAKING THE FIGHT TO AT T PRODUCT AND THEIR HEADQUARTERED HERE.

AND THEY ACTUALLY WANTED TO INVEST OWN MONEY, UM, TO BEAUTIFYING THAT, UH, ENTRANCE GATEWAY SCIENTIST, SOME TREES AND DEBRIS, SO ON AND SO FORTH.

WE WERE EVEN WILLING TO INSTALL LIGHTS AND STUFF.

SO MAYBE ONE OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS WANTS, UH, NEED TO CONTACT FOR THAT, UH, COMPANY.

I CAN OBVIOUS GIVE YOU GUYS A CONTACT INFO.

YOU GUYS CAN REACH OUT AND MAYBE BE KIND OF COMMITTEE PROJECT COLLABORATIVE WITH LOCAL COMPANY, UM, TO TRY TO FIND THAT MIDDLE GROUND, WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE.

BUT IN REGARDS TO A GATEWAY SIGN, LIKE WE WOULD SAY ON THIRD AVENUE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT WOULD'VE TO BE A COUNCIL DECISION, OF COURSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE A BUDGET FOR IT.

UM, AND FINDING THE PLACE.

YEAH.

I DON'T, I DON'T WANNA START ANYTHING.

I JUST WANTED TO ASK .

IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

I THINK, I THINK MAYBE THE DIRECTION WOULD BE TO MAYBE REDOING WHAT WE DO HAVE RATHER THAN BRING BUILDING FROM SCRATCH.

SO THAT WOULD MEAN, YOU KNOW, KIND OF TALKING TO THE HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION, I THINK OF THE BUILDING WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PET BRIDGE AND SEE IF THEY'RE HOPING TO LIKE A REDESIGN OR A REFRESH AND SEEING ALL THAT.

THAT LOOKS THAT, YEAH, .

GOOD QUESTION.

'CAUSE THERE'S LIKE, THERE'S FOUR OR FIVE DIFFERENT ENTRANCES TO NASHVILLE CITY.

YEAH, YEAH.

MM-HMM.

BECAUSE ON MAIN STREET, YOU KNOW, I MEAN MOSTLY THE, LIKE AT NORTH PARK AND THE THIRD AVENUE IN HILLCREST AND ALL MM-HMM.

, THERE'S ONE MAIN STREET.

MM-HMM.

.

AND WHERE NASHVILLE CITY HAS LIKE 3 0 4 MM-HMM.

, YOU KNOW, AND SO EVERYBODY HAS THEIR TERRITORIAL IMPERATIVE OF THE ORANGE.

BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S, THAT'S A CHALLENGE.

OKAY.

UH, OUR NEXT MEETING IS, UH, TUESDAY.

UH, APRIL.

APRIL, APRIL 23RD.

NO, UH, NO.

APRIL FOOLS DAY AND, UH, 3:00 PM RIGHT.

UH, HAVE A HAPPY NEW YEAR AND THANK YOU ALL.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

OH, OH YEAH.

THE BOOK CLOSED.

YES.

CLOSE.

OH, OH YEAH.

TO CLOSE.

THANK YOU MUCH.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ONE IMPORTANT MEETING ADJOURNED.

3 49.

OKAY.