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[1. CALL TO ORDER]
MEETING TO ORDER AND ASK IF OUR INTERPRETER COULD TAKE A MOMENT TO EXPLAIN THE CITY'S INTERPRETIVE SERVICES THAT WILL BE OFFERED FOR THIS, THIS COUNCIL MEETING.UH, THE FOLLOWING INSTRUCTIONS WILL BE FOR OUR SPANISH SPEAKING PARTICIPANTS VIA ZOOM.
AND COULD WE PLEASE SILENCE ALL CELL PHONES OR ANY OTHER DEVICES IN THE CHAMBERS FOR THE, UH, DURATION OF THE MEETING? AND A LIVE WEBCAST OF THE MEETING MAY BE VIEWED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE.
AND A NOTICE, UH, AGENDA AND INFORMATION ARE ALSO ON THAT WEBSITE INFORMING MEMBERS PUBLIC THAT THEY CAN SUBMIT, UH, FOR COMMENTS ON, IN, IN A, ON A SPECIFIC, IN THIS CASE, IT'S A SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEM IN A NUMBER OF WAYS.
AND THAT'S EITHER WITH THE SALMON COVER COLORED, UH, UH, SPEAKER SLIP VIA ZOOM BY PRE-REGISTERING AND BY EMAILING AND BOTH OF THOSE NO LATER THAN FOUR HOURS BEFORE THE MEETING.
AND ALL WRITTEN COMMENTS THAT ARE RECEIVED OR DISTRIBUTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL PRIOR TO THE MEETING AND PUBLISHED ON THE CITY WEBSITE.
DID WE RECEIVE ANY WRITTEN COMMENTS? NO, WE HAVE NOT.
WITH THAT, I ASK THE CITY CLERK, CAN WE HAVE ROLL CALL PLEASE? THANK YOU.
COUNCIL MEMBER BUSH WILL MARK AS ABSENT.
COUNCIL MEMBER MOLINA PRESENT AND COUNCIL MEMBER RODRIGUEZ PRESENT.
ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD PLEASE, UH, STAND FOR THE PLEASURE OF ALLEGIANCE.
SO, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER RODRIGUEZ, COULD YOU LEAD US? PLEASE PLACE YOUR RIGHT HAND OVER YOUR HEART.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO, TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
[4.1 Proposed Truck Charging Infrastructure Project]
OKAY.WE CAN NOW HEAR, UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS ON ITEMS THAT ARE SPECIFIC TO THIS AGENDA ITEM.
AND DO WE HAVE ANYONE IN THE, UH, ZOOM ROOM, UM, AT THIS TIME, MAYOR? WE DO NOT.
WE'LL COME BACK IF HE, I KNOW WE HAVE ONE PERSON SIGNED UP AND WE CAN COME BACK ON HIM LATER THEN WITH THAT.
WITH THAT WE HAVE, UM, THE, UH, OUR STUDY SESSION ON PROPOSED TRUCK CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT AND, UH, WITH THAT CITY MANAGER THANK YOU MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, TONIGHT, UM, IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR PRESENTATIONS FROM THE, UH, GAUGE ZERO TEAM AND SKY TAR SKY CHARGER TEAM, UM, REGARDING THE TRUCK, UH, CHARGER, UH, UH, PROJECT.
UM, I WANNA MENTION WE HAVE OUR COMMISSIONER NARANJO HERE IN THE OFFICE.
IN THE OFFICE IN THE
UM, AND WE SHOULD HAVE SOME TEAM MEMBERS HERE TO PRESENT.
UM, OUR ARE I'M SORRY, ARE YOU? YEAH, I'M, I'M
SO WE DO HAVE GAUGE ZERO WHO HAPPENS TO BE OUR FIRST PRESENTER.
UM, I, I DIDN'T ASK THE WHOLE ENTIRE STAFF TO BE HERE.
THIS IS A SPECIAL MEETING, BUT I THOUGHT STEVEN AND, AND, UH, UH, BRIAN COULD, UH, POTENTIALLY ADDRESS SOME OF THE QUESTIONS OR ISSUES THAT ARE COMING UP ON A, ON A VERY PRELIMINARY BASIS.
UM, THE IDEA HERE, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL, IS THAT WE HEAR, COMMENT, WE HEAR THE, THE, THE PRESENTATION FROM BOTH TEAMS AND WE PROVIDE COMMENT, UH, UH, REGARDING THE PROPOSAL AND, AND ALSO, UH, COMMUNITY BENEFITS.
ANY OTHER ITEMS THAT, THAT THE, THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO, TO BRING UP.
UM, AND THEN, UM, THE TEAMS WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SUBMIT AN ADDENDUM, UM, TO THE ORIGINAL PACKAGE THAT THEY HAD SENT TO THE PORT.
UH, THEY'D HAVE TO DO THAT QUICKLY THOUGH.
IT'D HAVE TO BE SUBMIT BY SUBMITTED TO, UH, MAGGIE WEBER AT THE PORT BY THE 13TH.
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IS THIS FRIDAY, I BELIEVE.SO IT'LL BE A QUICK TURNAROUND.
AND THEN THE, UM, OUR COMMISSIONER NARANJO AND THE, UH, PORT AUTHORITY BOARD WILL BE CONSIDERING THESE, THIS ITEM IN CLOSE SESSION ON THE 13TH.
SO THAT'S SORT OF WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THE PROCESS.
UM, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL, YOU MAY BE ASKING, WHY ARE WE DOING THIS? UH, THIS IS A PORT PROJECT.
THIS IS IT, IT, IT, WE DON'T HAVE THE ULTIMATE AUTHORITY OVER THIS PROJECT.
IT IS A PROJECT OF THE PORT, BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT THAT WE GET INVOLVED EARLY ON, UM, WITH THE PROCESS SINCE THE, THE PROJECT IS BEING PROPOSED IN OUR CITY.
AND SO THIS IS A, A TIME FOR US TO, TO GET, UM, INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS EARLY ON AND WORK WITH OUR COMMISSIONER, YOU KNOW, TO FURTHER, UM, PROVIDE INPUT, UM, AND, AND SORT OF OUR, OUR REQUEST OF THESE PROJECTS, OF THIS PROJECT.
BECAUSE IN SHORT, THIS IS, THIS IS A MASSIVE UNDERTAKING.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN FOR PROBABLY FIVE TO SEVEN YEARS, I IMAGINE.
UM, IT'S, IT'S A TRUCK ELECTRIFICATION PROJECT THAT, THAT'S A MASSIVE, UH, ENGINEERING EFFORT, UM, TECHNOL TECHNOLOGICAL EFFORT.
UM, IT'S, IT'S DONE VERY RARELY IN THIS SORT OF SIZE AND STATURE.
SO THIS IS JUST SOMETHING THAT, THAT IS GONNA, CAN HAVE A, A HUGE IMPACT TO NATIONAL CITY.
UM, AND LET'S FACE IT, MOST OF THE, MOST OF THE ITEMS, UH, HAVING TRUCKS COME THROUGH YOUR COMMUNITY ARE NOT GONNA BE, WHETHER THEY'RE ELECTRIC OR GAS POWERED, IS NOT GONNA BE A POSITIVE SITUATION.
SO, SO WE WANNA MAKE, GET AS AND, AND, AND ADDRESS AND ENCOURAGE AS MANY POSITIVES THAT COULD COME FROM SUCH A FACILITY, UH, SUCH A PROJECT.
UM, AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S SORT OF THE PURPOSE OF THE, OF, OF THE PRESENTATIONS.
AGAIN, BRINGING THEM EARLY, MUCH BEFORE, LONG BEFORE THE DECISION IS MADE, WHETHER ONE OR TWO OF THE, ONE OF THE, OF THE TWO PROPOSALS IS CHOSEN BY THE PORT.
AND THEN THE LONG PROCESS OF NEGOTIATIONS, PUTTING, PUTTING TOGETHER A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, DOING ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS, AND EVENTUALLY BUILDING THE PROJECT.
THAT'S YEARS FROM NOW, BUT WE, WE WANT TO GET INVOLVED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
SO THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF, OF TONIGHT.
WITH THAT THEN, UH, WE WILL READY TO HEAR THE FIRST PRESENTATION, WHICH IS THROUGH, UH, GAGE ZERO TEAM.
AND, UH, AND I, I TAKE IT YOU'RE CARLY FELNER? I'M CARLY FELNER, YES.
OH, WHICH OF THESE, AND CAN I ADVANCE THE SLIDES ON MY OWN OR SHOULD I JUST ASK FOR THAT? RIGHT, THERE YOU GO.
AND, AND I KNOW YOU HAVE SOME OTHER INDIVIDUALS, UH, UH, BRANDON, RAF, AND SAM S YES.
UH, SO I AM, WHEN THEY GET INTO THE ROOM AND YOU NEED THEM TO COME ON, JUST LET US KNOW.
I THINK THEY MIGHT BE JOINED BY ZOOM ALREADY, BUT, BUT I CAN GET STARTED, PLEASE.
SO AGAIN, UM, WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR TIME AND MAKE AN INTRO THERE FROM, CAN YOU SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE? YES, SURE.
SORRY, CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? MIGHT WANNA TILT IT DOWN A LITTLE FURTHER.
UM, JUST WANNA THANK YOU ALL FOR THE TIME AND THE FEEDBACK ON THE PROPOSAL.
UM, AS YOU ALL SAID, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT THIS PROJECT IS DONE WITH BOTH THE PORT AND THE COMMUNITY IN MIND.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE, UM, REALLY KEPT IN OUR MINDS AS WE'VE PROPOSED WHAT WE HAVE TO, UM, TO THE PORT.
AND PART OF THE REASON WE WERE SELECTED WAS BECAUSE WE HAD A VERY DEFINED COMMUNITY BENEFIT PLAN OF WHAT WE WANNA DO TO MAKE SURE THIS PROJECT IS REALLY DONE IN COORDINATION WITH THE COMMUNITY.
SO WE'LL GET INTO A LOT OF THAT LATER IN THE PRESENTATION, BUT JUST WANNA START OFF OF WE'RE, YOU KNOW, VERY GRATEFUL TO HAVE EVERYONE'S FEEDBACK HERE AND, AND LOOKING FORWARD TO SHOWING YOU WHAT WE SEE.
UM, THIS PROJECT BEING, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SAY NO ONE WANTS TRUCKS IN THEIR COMMUNITIES, BUT I THINK PARTICULARLY WHY WE STARTED THIS BUSINESS WAS JUST THE INTENSE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS OF HAVING DIESEL TRUCKS AND, AND THE EMISSIONS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE, AND HOW MUCH THAT DISPROPORTIONATELY AFFECTS CERTAIN COMMUNITIES.
SO THAT'S A BIG REASON BEHIND WHY WE BUILT THIS COMPANY.
UM, SO WANNA JUST SAY OFF THE BAT, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE REALLY PASSIONATE ABOUT AND IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO US.
UM, BUT WITH THAT, WE CAN GET INTO THE REST OF THE PRESENTATION.
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CO-FOUNDER ZAINA, UM, STARTED THE COMPANY ABOUT, UH, BACK IN 2022.NOW WE HAVE NOW PROJECTS LIKE THIS THAT WE'RE DOING ALL OVER THE COUNTRY AND HOPEFULLY HERE IN NATIONAL CITY.
UM, SO WE HAVE THAT TRACK RECORD AS WELL AS WE'VE ALL SPENT MANY YEARS DOING LARGE SCALE UTILITY PROJECTS WITH, WITH, UH, UTILITIES FOR RENEWABLE ENERGY.
SO WE HAVE A VAST AMOUNT, YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN HERE, $10 BILLION OF, YOU KNOW, PROJECT EXECUTION THAT WE HAVE UNDER OUR BELT PRIOR TO ENTERING INTO THIS NEW COMPANY.
UM, AND A FINANCIAL BACKING FROM A PRIVATE EQUITY FIRM CALLED ARC FINANCIAL, UH, WHICH IS A CANADIAN PRIVATE EQUITY FUND THAT ACTUALLY HAS, YOU KNOW, VERY STRONG, UH, MANDATES AROUND THEIR INVESTMENTS BEING ENVIRONMENTALLY, UM, FRIENDLY AND CLIMATE TECHNOLOGY.
SO THAT'S A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON US, AND THEN I'LL LET, I THINK WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE THAT HAS LITTLE INTROS.
I CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO USE THIS THING.
SO YOU CAN SEE THERE, UM, MYSELF AND MY CO-FOUNDER CARLY FILLER, OUR CHIEF COMMERCIAL OFFICER, AND ZAINA, OUR CEO, UM, WE BOTH WORKED TOGETHER FOR MULTIPLE YEARS IN THE PAST, UM, AND HAVE DONE A LOT OF WORK IN THE, IN THE CLEAN ENERGY AND CLIMATE TECH SPACE.
UH, WE ALSO HAVE A CO-FOUNDER FEISAL, WHO'S ACTUALLY A SAN DIEGO RESIDENT, LIVES HERE, UM, HAS DONE PAST PROJECTS IN EV AND, UH, VEHICLE TO GRID, UM, EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE THERE.
AND I'LL LET MY TWO TEAM MEMBERS, IF THEY'RE ON THE ZOOM, INTRODUCE THEMSELVES AS WELL.
SO WE SHOULD HAVE SAM AARONS, UH, AND BRANDON WRAP ON THE PHONE AS WELL.
HELLO? CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN.
MY NAME IS SAM AARONS, UH, I'M THE VICE PRESIDENT OF BUSINESS OPERATIONS AND STRATEGY HERE AT GAUGE ZERO.
UM, I AM VERY SAD NOT TO BE WITH YOU TODAY IN PERSON I WAS, UH, PLANNING TO BE.
AND BECAUSE OF THE STORM YESTERDAY, WHICH DISRUPTED MY TRAVEL TO THE AIRPORT TODAY, I DID NOT MAKE IT.
UM, BUT I'M GLAD WE'RE ABLE TO JOIN REMOTELY.
UM, I COME WITH A BACKGROUND OF ABOUT 15 YEARS, UH, IN BOTH THE RENEWABLE ENERGY AND, UH, ELECTRIC VEHICLE SPACE, HAVING SPENT A BUNCH OF TIME AT GOOGLE, UH, FOR MANY YEARS NEGOTIATING ENERGY CONTRACTS AND THEN AT LYFT LEADING THE SUSTAINABILITY PROGRAM THERE.
UM, I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND I'VE BEEN, UH, THE MAIN POINT PERSON, UM, FROM WITHIN ENGAGE ZERO LIAISING WITH MAGGIE AT THE PORT, AND, UM, AND OF COURSE TO HELP SET UP THIS MEETING TODAY AS WELL.
SO, UH, I'LL BE SPEAKING A LITTLE BIT LATER WHEN WE GET INTO THE PROJECT DETAILS.
UM, CAN I JUST WANNA CHECK THAT FOLKS CAN HEAR ME AS WELL? WE CAN HEAR YOU.
I'M SORRY, Y'ALL, YOU CAN HEAR ME? YES, YES, YES.
UM, SO BRANDON RAP, UH, I AM A STRATEGIC ADVISOR TO GAUGE ZERO, UM, PRIMARILY ON THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS SIDE OF THIS PROPOSAL.
UH, I HAVE ABOUT 10 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE AROUND NONPROFIT COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WORK.
UH, FIRST STARTING OFF AS AN EDUCATOR AND TEACHER AND INSTRUCTOR, AND THEN MOVING AND DOING WORK IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THE GREATER NEW ORLEANS REGION, UH, PRIMARILY ON WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT WORK.
UH, AFTER THAT TIME, UH, I SPENT A FEW YEARS DOING CONSULTING PRIMARILY IN THE POWER UTILITIES AND RESOURCES INDUSTRY, UH, BOTH IN THE US AND GLOBALLY.
AND, UH, AND NOW AM, UH, HAVE MY OWN FIRM, UH, A LOUV MANAGEMENT, WHICH WORKS WITH ORGANIZATIONS PURPOSE-DRIVEN ORGANIZATIONS LIKE GAUGE ZERO, UM, DOING WORK LIKE THIS.
SO I'M EXCITED TO BE ON THIS CALL.
UH, WE'LL GET INTO THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS A LITTLE LATER, BUT I, I DO WANNA SAY, UM, TO THOSE, UH, PRESENT THAT I WISH I COULD BE THERE AS WELL.
UH, I TOO HAD SIMILAR TO SAM, UM, WEATHER DELAYS, SO I APOLOGIZE.
I REALLY WISH I COULD BE WITH YOU ALL IN PERSON.
UM, BUT I'M SURE, UH, WE'LL GET TO MEET AT SOME POINT SOON.
ALL RIGHT, CARLY, I'LL HAND IT BACK TO YOU.
UM, I'LL SKIP THROUGH OUR ADVISORS A LITTLE BIT.
MM-HMM,
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AND WE HAVE A SUITE OF OTHER ADVISORS ON OUR TEAM FROM AUTOMOTIVE AND TECHNOLOGY, UM, AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, REALLY NON-PROFIT, UH, LED PEOPLE WHO CAN ADVISE US ON, ON OUR STRATEGY AT GATE JRO.SO, UM, WANTED TO JUST HIGHLIGHT THAT THERE AND WE'LL GET INTO A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT GAUGE JRO IS DOING ACROSS BOTH THIS PROJECT AND ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
SO WE'RE OFFERING, UM, YOU KNOW, CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THESE FLEETS.
AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, A LOT OF FLEETS ARE EITHER WANTING OR REQUIRED TO ELECTRIFY, BUT IT'S VERY COMPLICATED FOR THEM TO DO THEMSELVES, ESPECIALLY IN THIS AREA.
A LOT OF FLEETS ARE, YOU KNOW, INDEPENDENT OWNER OPERATOR WHERE IT'S ONE OWNER THAT HAS A COUPLE TRUCKS THAT IS RUNNING BACK AND FORTH TO THE PORT.
UM, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO FIGURE OUT HOW DO I BUY AN ELECTRIC TRUCK? HOW DO I, WHERE DO I CHARGE IT? HOW DO I DO ALL OF THIS? UM, THAT'S WHERE WE REALLY WANT TO COME IN AND MAKE THAT SIMPLE, MAKE THAT INVESTMENT UPFRONT SO THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO, AND THEN CAN HELP THEM OVER TIME AS WE ARE THE LONG TERM PARTNER TO OWN AND OPERATE, UM, AND LEAD THAT WHOLE PROCESS FOR THEM.
AND WE'VE ACTUALLY WORKED WITH A FEW OF THE FLEETS IN NATIONAL CITY THAT ARE CURRENTLY SERVING THE PORTS TO UNDERSTAND THEIR NEEDS, UM, AND TO HELP THEM START THAT TRANSITION EVEN BEFORE WE'VE BEEN SELECTED FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.
SO, UM, THAT IS, YOU KNOW, A BIG PART OF WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IS COMING AND BEING THAT PARTNER TO BUILD BOTH THE CHARGING BUT ALSO EVERYTHING THAT GOES WITH IT, THE SOLAR AND THE BATTERIES THAT ARE GONNA HELP THAT BE THE MOST RENEWABLE, THE MOST RELIABLE RESOURCE THAT IT CAN BE.
SO THAT'S KIND OF OUR VISION FOR WHAT WE CAN DO HERE IN NATIONAL CITY.
SKIP THROUGH THIS A LITTLE BIT JUST IN INTEREST OF TIME AND GET TO WHAT'S MOST PROBABLY RELEVANT TO YOU ALL IS THE ACTUAL PROJECT.
SO HERE YOU CAN SEE THESE ARE TWO OF THE PARCELS THAT, UM, THAT THE PORT OF SAN DIEGO PROPOSED FOR THIS PROJECT.
WE ACTUALLY ORIGINALLY PROPOSED OUR SOLUTION ON PARCEL THREE HERE.
WE, IN OUR RECENT REVISED SUBMITTAL MOVE TO PARCEL TWO, THAT IS VERY MUCH, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH UNDERSTANDING THE FEEDBACK FROM THE PORT, FROM THE TERMINAL OPERATOR AND FROM OTHERS THAT THEY'D REALLY LIKE TO CONTINUE TO USE PARCEL THREE FOR WHAT'S CURRENTLY BEING USED, UM, FOR, BY THE, BY PASHA.
AND THAT PARCEL TWO, A WALL, A LITTLE BIT MORE OF AN AWKWARD PARCEL AND WAS A LITTLE HARD FOR US TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO FIT EVERYTHING WE WANT TO IN THERE, YOU KNOW, WANTED TO DO THAT TO SHOW REALLY, UH, WORKING WELL WITH THE EXISTING ECOSYSTEM OF WHO'S USING THE CURRENT LAND ON THE PORT.
SO THAT IS, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE MADE THAT SHIFT TO PARCEL TWO.
AND THEN WE CAN GET INTO KIND OF WHAT THE PROJECT ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE.
UM, SO THIS IS KIND OF OUR RENDERING.
YOU CAN SEE OF THE PARCEL TWO THERE.
UM, THERE ARE SOLAR CANOPIES AND TRUCK CHARGING STATIONS ALL ALONG THE EXTERIOR OF THAT TRIANGULAR PARCEL.
AND YOU CAN ALSO SEE THERE'S KIND OF AN AMENITIES BUILDING.
SO THIS WOULD BRING BATHROOMS, SHOWERS, FOOD OPTIONS TO THIS AREA, TO THE LOCAL DRIVERS THAT ARE USING AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY THAT DON'T EXIST.
AND LET ME KNOW, SAM, IF YOU ON THE PHONE, WANNA COMMENT ANYTHING ABOUT THE PHASING OR SCOPING OR I'LL CONTINUE.
I'M HAPPY TO JUMP IN HERE IF EVERYONE CAN STILL HEAR ME FOR THE NEXT SLIDE OR TWO.
UM, SO ON THIS, UH, SLIDE, YOU CAN REALLY SEE ALL THE DETAILS OF WHAT THIS PROJECT WILL BE.
UM, WE HAVE THE ENGINEERING DESIGN, OF COURSE, THIS IS A PRELIMINARY DESIGN THAT WILL BE FURTHER REFINED, UM, IF, IF WE ARE SELECTED.
BUT IT REALLY LAYS OUT, YOU KNOW, WITH GREAT SPECIFICITY, UH, ALL OF THE STALLS, THE SOLAR, UM, THE BUILDING.
THERE'S ALSO, UH, PRIVATE VIEW VEHICLE, YOU KNOW, PERSONAL VEHICLE PARKING SPOTS, UM, FOR DRIVERS POTENTIALLY TO USE AND CHARGE THEIR OWN ELECTRIC CARS AS WELL WHILE THEY'RE OUT ON THE ROAD IN THE TRUCKS.
UM, BUT BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT, UH, INVESTMENT.
IT'S ABOUT $16 MILLION IS WHAT WE CURRENTLY ESTIMATE.
AND WE ESTIMATE THAT IT WILL CREATE 20 CONSTRUCTION JOBS AND THEN THREE FULL-TIME JOBS, YOU KNOW, IN THE LONG TERM.
AFTER THAT, WE ARE PROPOSING TO BUILD IT IN TWO PHASES.
AND THIS IS REALLY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE EXPECT THAT THE DEMAND FOR ELECTRIC TRUCK CHARGING WILL RAMP UP OVER TIME AS MORE AND MORE TRUCKS, UH, GET ONTO THE ROAD.
AND OF COURSE, AS THE, UM, ADVANCED CLEAN FLEETS
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RULE AT THE STATE LEVEL, YOU KNOW, COMES FURTHER AND FURTHER INTO EFFECT.SO PHASE ONE WOULD PUT, UH, 10 CHARGERS, UM, IN THE SORT OF DIAGONAL ROW THERE THAT YOU CAN SEE IN THE DIAGRAM, WHICH WOULD SERVE 20 STALLS.
SO THOSE, THESE ARE DUAL PORT CHARGERS, THEY CAN, EACH ONE CAN CHARGE TWO TRUCKS AT A TIME, UH, FOR TWO DIFFERENT STALLS.
UM, IT WOULD ALSO INCLUDE THE SOLAR CANOPIES, UH, BATTERY STORAGE.
AND, UH, THEN OF COURSE THE DRIVER AMENITY BUILDING THAT CARLY MENTIONED A MOMENT AGO.
AND WE ESTIMATE THAT THIS WILL SUPPORT 67 TRUCKS, UM, THAT'LL BE ABLE TO CHARGE, UH, PER DAY.
AND THAT WILL GET SOMEWHERE IN THE RANGE OF 44 TO 78% OF THE PORT'S MARINE CLEARING CLEAN AIR STRATEGY GOAL FOR 2026.
UM, THAT'S A BIT OF A WIDE RANGE JUST BECAUSE THERE'S A, THERE IS SOME UNCERTAINTY INTO EXACTLY HOW MUCH DEMAND THERE WILL BE, YOU KNOW, ON DAY ONE.
UM, BUT IT, IT WILL GET US A FAIR BIT OF THE WAY THERE AND HOPEFULLY QUITE A BIT OF THE WAY THERE.
UH, THEN PHASE TWO WILL BE TRIGGERED ONCE PHASE ONE REACHES A THRESHOLD OF WHAT WE CALL UTILIZATION, WHICH JUST BASICALLY MEANS, YOU KNOW, HOW OUT OF THE 24 HOURS IN A DAY, HOW MANY HOURS ARE THE CHARGERS ACTUALLY BEING USED? AND WE HIT, UH, A LEVEL WHICH WE'RE SETTING AT CURRENTLY AT 20%.
THAT'S WHEN WE WOULD TRIGGER PHASE TWO.
'CAUSE THAT TELLS US THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ENOUGH DEMAND THAT WE NEED TO BUILD MORE, BASICALLY.
AND SO ONCE WE DO THAT, WE'LL BUILD THE OTHER 10, UH, THE OTHER 10 CHARGERS, WHICH WILL COME DOWN THAT RIGHT SIDE OF THOSE STALLS THERE.
UM, SERVING 20 ADDITIONAL STALLS.
SO THE TOTAL, WE HAVE, UH, 40 STALLS ACROSS THIS FULL SITE, AND THAT CAN BUMP US UP TO SERVING 96 TRUCKS PER DAY, WE ESTIMATE, WHICH WILL GET US MOST OF THE WAY, ALTHOUGH NOT ALL THE WAY TO THE PORT'S 2030 GOAL, WHICH IS OF COURSE, 100%, UH, ZERO EMISSION TRUCKS.
SO IN ORDER TO FULLY MEET THAT 2030 GOAL, WE DO BELIEVE THAT PROBABLY THERE WILL NEED TO BE AN, A FUTURE PHASE BEYOND THIS PARCEL.
AND FOR THAT WE WOULD PROPOSE USING PARCEL THREE, WHICH WAS THAT, UH, ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE YOU SAW THAT, UH, ADDITIONAL PARCEL THAT WAS BELOW THE TRIANGLE HERE.
UM, THAT'S OBVIOUSLY A FAIR WAYS AWAY AND IT WOULD NEED TO BE DISCUSSED WITH THE PORT AND WITH THE CURRENT TENANT AND, AND ALL OF THAT.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IF THE PORT DOES WANT TO MEET THEIR GOAL, WE BELIEVE THAT IT WILL BE, UH, IMPORTANT TO HAVE A THIRD PHASE EVENTUALLY.
AND YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
AND HAPPY TO TALK TO THIS ONE A LITTLE BIT, UM, IF, UNLESS SAM, YOU'VE GOT THAT, I THINK THIS JUST SPEAKS TO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S GONNA BE A LONG PERMITTING PROCESS, AS YOU ALL MENTIONED, BOTH WITH, YOU KNOW, THE COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMITS WITH NATIONAL CITY, WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT NEED TO GET APPROVED EVEN AFTER, UM, SELECTION FOR THE RFP.
SO WE'VE REALLY INCORPORATED THAT INTO THE SCHEDULE AND ARE STILL AIMING TO MEET, UM, SOME OF THE PORT'S TIMELINES OF HAVING THIS FIRST PHASE UP AND RUNNING IN 2026, UM, IN ORDER TO MOVE THIS FORWARD.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IT EXPAND FROM THERE, AS SAM MENTIONED, AS UTILIZATION RAMPS UP.
SO VERY MUCH, YOU KNOW, BUILDING INTO OUR PLANS THAT THIS IS NOT GONNA HAPPEN OVERNIGHT.
THAT IT IS A MULTI-YEAR STAGED PROCESS THAT REALLY IS GONNA MEET THE NEEDS OF, OF THE TRUCKING COMMUNITY HERE AND OF THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE.
SAM, SORRY, ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT SCHEDULE? NOPE, THAT'S GOOD ON THAT SLIDE.
WELL, THE ONLY THING TO POINT OUT THERE, I GUESS IS, UM, AT THE VERY, UH, BEGINNING OF THIS MEETING, I, I, I DIDN'T QUITE CATCH WHO IT WAS, BUT WAS REFERRING TO SORT OF A, A, YOU KNOW, A NUMBER OF YEARS UNTIL THIS PROJECT COMES ONLINE.
AND I JUST WANNA POINT OUT THAT, YOU KNOW, ACCORDING TO THIS SCHEDULE, BASICALLY WHEN PHASE ONE COMMISSIONING IS DONE, WHICH IS THE LOWER LINE OF THE YELLOW SECTION, UM, THAT IS WHEN THE PROJECT STARTS TO OPERATE.
SO CURRENTLY THAT DATE, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, IS APRIL 6TH, 2026.
SO IT'S REALLY JUST, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN TWO YEARS FROM NOW.
UM, NOW OF COURSE, THIS IS ALL DEPENDENT ON THE PERMITTING PROCESS AND SDG E BRINGING THE AMOUNT OF POWER THAT IS NEEDED AND ALL THAT.
BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S, ALTHOUGH IT IS, YEAH, IT'S A COUPLE OF YEARS AWAY, IT'S NOT FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AWAY THAT THIS WOULD BE COMING ONLINE.
DO YOU MIND TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE TRAFFIC STUDY HERE? THANKS.
HAPPY TO COVER THIS ONE AS WELL.
SO WE DECIDED THAT, YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT NOT BE A BAD IDEA TO DO AT LEAST A HIGH LEVEL INITIAL TRAFFIC STUDY.
AND WE, UH, RETAINED SAM SCHWARTZ ENGINEERING, WHICH IS ONE OF THE PREEMINENT, UH, TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERING FIRMS, UH, IN THE COUNTRY, AND ASKED THEM TO TAKE A LOOK AT, UH, THE AREA
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HERE AND GIVE US THEIR THOUGHTS.AND BASICALLY, AND HERE'S WHAT THEY CAME BACK WITH, AND OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, FURTHER STUDIES WOULD BE NEEDED TO REFINE THIS AND, AND UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, DEEPER ISSUES.
BUT WHAT WE SEE HERE IS ESSENTIALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS YELLOW, UH, THE YELLOW ARROWS, UM, ARE WHAT WE EXPECT TO BE THE MOVEMENT SORT OF TO AND FROM THIS TRUCK CHARGING STATION.
AND I DO WANNA POINT OUT THAT, YOU KNOW, SO THE, THE PURPLE, UM, FROM THE ENGINEERING FIRM'S, UH, RESEARCH IS THE DESIGNATED TRUCK ROUTE THAT THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY HAS DESIGNATED.
AND IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO SEE, BUT UNDERNEATH THE YELLOW IS PURPLE.
SO, YOU KNOW, THIS TRUCK TRAFFIC THAT WE SEE GOING TO AND FROM THE PARCELS DOWN THERE, WHICH ARE THE RED SECTIONS, UM, THOSE, UH, ARE ALREADY DESIGNATED TRUCK ROUTES AS WELL.
SO WE'RE NOT SUGGESTING THAT THERE WOULD BE ANY TRUCK TRAFFIC THAT WOULD BE OUTSIDE OF THE DESIGNATED TRUCK ROUTE AS THEY ALREADY EXIST, BUT WE'RE JUST SORT OF SHOWING, YOU KNOW, DEFINITIVELY HERE'S WHERE WE EXPECT TRUCKS TO BE COMING AND GOING FROM.
UM, I ALSO WANNA POINT OUT, IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO SEE ON THIS MAP HERE, BUT JUST TO THE SOUTH OF, UH, PARCEL THREE, WHICH IS THE RED RECTANGULAR PARCEL, THERE IS ALREADY A DIESEL GAS STATION FOR TRUCKS THERE.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE ALREADY HAVE TRUCKS COMING IN AND OUT OF THIS AREA TO FUEL TODAY, AND THEY'RE DOING IT, OF COURSE, IN A MANNER THAT IS MUCH MORE POLLUTING THAN IT NEEDS TO BE.
SO, YOU KNOW, THIS TRUCK STOP, UH, OR THIS, THIS TRUCK CHARGING STATION WE HOPE WILL EVENTUALLY REPLACE, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE TRAFFIC GOING TO THAT DIESEL TRUCK STATION.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, IN, IN A WAY IT'S SORT OF REPLACING LIKE FOR LIKE, OR, YOU KNOW, LIKE FOR BETTER, I SUPPOSE YOU COULD SAY.
UM, BUT WE DON'T EXPECT THIS TO BE DOING ANYTHING SIGNIFICANTLY, SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT IS ALREADY HAPPENING IN THESE CORRIDORS.
UM, THE ENGINEERING FIRM POINTED OUT, UH, FIVE SPECIFIC AREAS, AND YOU CAN SEE THESE WITH THE SMALL NUMBERED CIRCLES.
ONE, YOU KNOW, GOING DOWN FROM THE TOP 1, 2, 3, 4, AND FIVE.
UM, THESE ARE DIFFERENT INTERSECTIONS BASICALLY, WHERE THEY'RE SUGGESTING SOME TRAFFIC SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS, UM, AS A WAY JUST TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE THIS WHOLE AREA SAFER FROM A, YOU KNOW, PEDESTRIAN AND, AND VEHICULAR POINT OF VIEW.
AND IN OUR APPENDIX SLIDES, IF ANYONE IS CURIOUS, WE'RE HAPPY TO SHOW SOME SORT OF ZOOMED IN VERSIONS OF THOSE.
UM, BUT BASICALLY AT A HIGH LEVEL, YOU KNOW, IS BETTER CROSSWALKS, BETTER SIGNAGE, UM, PERHAPS SOME, YOU KNOW, FLASHING LIGHTS FOR PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS AND, AND BIKE CROSSINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT JUST TO KIND OF KEEP THIS SAFER AS, UH, THE ELECTRIC TRUCK STOP, UH, RAMPS UP.
WANNA SHIFT TO GET INTO AND HAPPY TO HAVE BRANDON, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND FROM THE PHONE LEADING THIS SECTION.
UM, JUST THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS PLAN.
I WANNA JUST MENTION THAT THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS PLAN IS REALLY ANCHORED IN THE PORT'S MARITIME CLEAN AIR STRATEGY.
UM, AND IN ADDITION TO THE PORT'S MARITIME CLEAN AIR AIR STRATEGY, WE SPENT, UM, WE SPENT TIME ALSO LOOKING AT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIES, UM, WITHIN NATIONAL CITY AND SAN DIEGO, UH, MORE BROADLY.
AND SO OUR COMMUNITY BENEFITS PLAN REALLY INCORPORATES A SET OF PLANS AND STRATEGIES THAT ALREADY EXIST.
UM, AND OUR JOB WAS REALLY TO TRY TO LIFT UP WHERE WE COULD, UH, THOSE, THOSE EXISTING PLANS AND THE WORK THAT IS ALREADY HAPPENING IN THE COMMUNITY.
UM, AND SO THERE ARE SEVEN MAJOR COMMUNITY BENEFITS THAT I'LL TALK ABOUT TODAY.
UM, ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFITS, THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AND TRAINING, EDUCATION, AND THEN TRUCKER BENEFITS, FOR EXAMPLE, DRIVER AMENITIES, REAR RESILIENCY, AND THE, THE, THE SUPPORT OF LOCAL TRUCKING.
ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFIT SIDE, REALLY THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT COMES DOWN TO BETTER AIR QUALITY.
UM, WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE REDUCING CO2, UM, PARTICULATE MATTER, NITROUS, NITROUS OXIDE IN THE COMMUNITIES, AND THAT IS REALLY THE PRIMARY BENEFIT.
UM, THE SECOND BULLET HERE SAYS, UM, IT ACKNOWLEDGES POTENTIALLY THE OPPORTUNITY TO PURCHASE AIR PURIFIERS.
THIS IS BUILDING ON AN EXISTING PROGRAM, THE PAYER PROGRAM IN SAN DIEGO.
WE LEARNED THAT IT COULD BE HELPFUL TO HAVE PRIVATE FUNDING, UM, TO, UH, PURCHASE AIR PURIFIERS FOR FOLKS WHO ARE OUTSIDE OF THE AREA WITHIN THAT PROGRAM.
AND, UM, AND SO WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT THAT IN TERMS OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
UH, WE WANT TO HAVE A DEDICATED COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT MANAGER TO LEAD COMMUNICATIONS WITH THE COMMUNITY.
THIS IS ACROSS THE PROJECT SCOPE, RIGHT? SO FROM DESIGN TO IMPLEMENTATION,
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UH, TO MAINTENANCE, OUR, OUR GOAL IS REALLY TO BE INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, TO GET AS MUCH FEEDBACK AS WE CAN.UM, THE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AND TRAINING PIECE, UM, WE HAVE LETTERS OF SUPPORT FROM GRID ALTERNATIVES, URBAN CORE OF SAN DIEGO, AND, UH, THE CHICANO PARK MUSEUM, UH, TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE CAN HELP WITH BUILDING WORKFORCE IN PORT, UM, PORT AND PORT PROXIMATE, UH, COMMUNITIES.
UH, AND SO, UH, THIS IS THE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT PIECE ON EDUCATION.
UH, THIS IS SPEAKING TO, UM, POTENTIALLY ADDING TO, UH, THE STEM CURRICULUM THAT ALREADY EXISTS AT THE PORTS ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATION PROGRAM.
UH, WHAT IS NOT INCLUDED HERE IS WE'VE ALSO DISCUSSED POTENTIAL TO WORK WITH TEACHERS TO DO EXTERNSHIPS OR STUDENTS, UM, HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS TO DO INTERNSHIPS, UH, FOR, UM, FOR AND WITH GAUGE ZERO.
UH, THE FINAL BENEFITS HERE, THE DRIVER AMENITIES, THAT'S THE REST AREA.
I KNOW CARLY MENTIONED SOME OF THESE ON THE GRID RESILIENCY SIDE.
UM, SINCE THERE POTENTIALLY WILL BE STORAGE, BATTERY STORAGE, UM, THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE A COMMUNITY RESOURCE BY PROVIDING THIS MICROGRID JUST, UM, AS A RESULT OF THE, UM, THE TRUCK STOP.
AND, UH, THE LAST PIECE HERE IS REALLY AROUND THINKING ABOUT THE, THE, THE TRUCKER AND THE TRUCKER EXPERIENCE AS IT RELATES TO, UM, OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH TRUCKERS, THINKING ABOUT PREFERENTIAL RATES, VEHICLE FINANCING.
UM, THESE PIECES ARE ALSO IMPORTANT AS WE THINK ABOUT THE BENEFITS PIECE HERE.
AND, UH, SAM, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU FOR THE LAST SLIDE.
UM, SO JUST WANTED TO KIND OF SHOW, YOU KNOW, THE FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF OUTREACH AND COMMUNICATION THAT WE'VE DONE ALREADY WITH THE COMMUNITY AND WE, WE WELCOME EVEN MORE OF THIS.
UM, I'M SURE THERE, YOU KNOW, THERE MUST BE ORGANIZATIONS ON HERE THAT WE HAVEN'T FOUND YET, AND WE'RE VERY OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS AND FEEDBACK BECAUSE WE WANT TO GET AS MANY OPINIONS AS POSSIBLE.
UM, AND OF COURSE WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO THE COUNCIL'S FEEDBACK AS WELL TODAY.
UM, BUT IN, UH, COMING OUTTA THOSE CONVERSATIONS, WE HAVE RECEIVED FOUR LETTERS OF SUPPORT DIRECTLY FROM THE ORGANIZATIONS ON THE LEFT THERE.
SO GRID ALTERNATIVES, THE URBAN CORE, UH, CAL START.
THERE'S ONE OF THE PREEMINENT, UH, CLEAN TRANSPORTATION NON-PROFITS IN THE COUNTRY.
AND THEN THE CHICANO PARK MUSEUM OF CULTURAL CENTER.
UM, WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF CONVERSATIONS WITH, WITH ADDITIONAL ORGANIZATIONS LISTED HERE.
UM, ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH COALITION, THE URBAN CORE, UH, URBAN SUSTAINABILITY CORE, EXCUSE ME.
UM, CLIMATE ACTION CAMPAIGN, WORKING WATERFRONT, THE POLLUTION CONTROL CONTROL DISTRICT IN MUNDO GARDENS.
ALTHOUGH UNFORTUNATELY THAT LAST ONE, WE WERE NOT ABLE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THEM SINCE WE DID NOT RECEIVE A RESPONSE.
UH, FINALLY, UM, AT THE PORT COMMISSIONER MEETING THAT WE ATTENDED BACK IN NOVEMBER, UM, THERE WAS A VERY GOOD SUGGESTION MADE THAT WE, WE REALLY NEED TO BE DOING OUTREACH, UH, TO THE INDIGENOUS COMMUNITIES.
UM, SO WE HAVE DONE THAT, AND HERE I WON'T READ THEM ALL, BUT HERE'S A LIST OF EVERYBODY THAT WE REACHED OUT TO.
UM, SIMILARLY, UH, TO, UM, WITH MONA GARDENS, WE DID NOT UNFORTUNATELY, RECEIVE A RESPONSE FROM MOST OF THESE GROUPS.
UM, THE ONE EXCEPTION BEING THE IPE NATION OF SANTA ISABEL.
AND, UM, A GENTLEMAN THERE BY THE NAME OF CLINT LINTON, UM, WHO ALSO HAS, UH, A CONSULTING PRACTICE REGARDING NATIVE AMERICAN MONITORING, UM, DID A A JUST A VERY PRELIMINARY REVIEW FOR US.
UM, AND HIS OPINION WAS THAT NATIVE AMERICAN MONITORING IS PROBABLY NOT NECESSARY FOR THIS PROJECT DUE TO THE FACT THAT IT IS ON FILL.
HOWEVER, IT DEPENDS WHERE THE FILL CAME FROM.
IF IT WAS DREDGED, YOU KNOW, SEA FLOOR FROM SOMEWHERE OFF THE COAST, THEN THAT'S FINE.
BUT IF IT WAS FILLED THAT CAME FROM SOME INLAND LOCATION AND THEN GOT PUT HERE, THERE MAY BE ARTIFACTS OR, YOU KNOW, IMPORTANT THINGS IN THAT FILL.
SO HE SUGGESTED THAT AS THE PROJECT GETS UNDERWAY, WE HAVE TO SEE WHAT THE GROUND, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE INTERIOR OF THE SOIL LOOKS LIKE WHEN EXCAVATION BEGINS.
BUT ASSUMING THAT IT JUST DOES LOOK LIKE, YOU KNOW, OCEAN SEDIMENT, THAT IT WOULD NOT REQUIRE NATIVE AMERICAN MODERATING.
WELL, I THINK THAT'S THE END OF THE SLIDES WE HAD PLANNED HERE.
UM, REALLY APPRECIATE THE TIME, WOULD LOVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE FEEDBACK FROM THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND, AND OTHERS.
ALRIGHT, UM, I'M WAITING ON OTHERS.
I, I'LL CHIME IN ON A FEW THINGS.
UM, ONE THING YOU'RE, THE TIMELINE THAT YOU HAD, WHICH SAYS THAT THIS WOULD BE UP AND GOING IN TWO YEARS, I DON'T MEAN TO MAKE A PUN OFF THE FORD
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PICKUP TRUCK, BUT THAT'S LIGHTNING SPEEDUH, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY WITH YOUR PERMITTING AND CONSTRUCTION, BUT ALSO BEING ABLE TO PROCURE, UH, SOME OF THIS STUFF BECAUSE I KNOW EVERYONE ON CHARGING STATIONS ARE HAVING A REALLY HARD TIME GETTING, YOU KNOW, WAITING IN LINE TO EVEN GET THAT EQUIPMENT.
SO I'M, I'M NOT NECESSARILY CONFIDENT ON THAT, GET ALL THAT WRAPPED UP IN TWO YEARS.
UM, WE'VE CERTAINLY STUDIED A LOT THE DIFFERENT PERMITTING SCENARIOS THAT MAY HAPPEN THAT COULD DELAY THAT.
BUT FROM A EQUIPMENT PROCUREMENT SIDE, WE'VE DEVELOPED REALLY GREAT RELATIONSHIPS.
WE EVEN HAVE ON OUR ADVISORY BOARD, ONE OF THE PRESIDENTS OF ONE OF THE TOP CHARGER, UH, HARDWARE COMPANIES.
SO WE ARE, UH, WORKING TOWARDS, YOU KNOW, THAT FOR SURE OF MAKING SURE WE HAVE ABILITY TO PROCURE THE EQUIPMENT ABILITY TO QUICKLY CONSTRUCT AS MUCH AS AS POSSIBLE ONCE ALL WE GO THROUGH ALL THE APPROVAL.
YOU KNOW, UM, I, I JUST WANTED, JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE STAYING REALISTIC.
UM, IF WE COULD GO TO SLIDE 12, BRING THAT BACK UP.
IT'S THE ONE WITH THE, UH, THE MAP AND THE ROUTES.
I CAN GO BACK, LET'S SEE, I CAN FIGURE, RIGHT, THERE YOU GO.
UM, SO I'M SEEING ROUTES GOING IN BOTH, UM, NORTH AND SOUTH AND FROM THE SITE.
AND SO THAT WOULD BE INCLUDING, I'M STILL GONNA CALL IT 24TH STREET SO THAT EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.
UM, GOING TO 24TH STREET AND ALSO GOING DOWN TO CIVIC CENTER, IN MY OPINION, 24TH STREET'S OUT OF THE QUESTION.
UM, WE GOTTA GET TRUCK TRA AS MUCH TRUCK TRAFFIC OUT THERE AS POSSIBLE.
I MEAN THAT INTERSECTION THERE WITH THE FREEWAY IS, IS A MESS AND THERE'S NOT MUCH, BECAUSE OF THE CONSTRUCTION FREEWAY, THERE'S NOT MUCH WE CAN DO WITH IT.
AND THAT'S ALSO THE AREA NEXT TO THAT FREEWAY THAT YOU'D BE PASSING RIGHT IN FRONT OF US WHERE, UH, WE ARE GOING BEFORE THE COASTAL COMMISSION TO PUT HOTELS AND STUFF RIGHT THERE.
AND, UH, SO IT DOESN'T MAKE A WHOLE LOT OF SENSE.
UM, THE OTHER ONE, WHICH THAT'S NUMBER FIVE ON YOUR, ON THERE, ON YOUR DESIGNATION, THE, UH, THE OTHER ONE'S GOING TO CIVIC CENTER, UH, DOWN TO CIVIC CENTER AREA, WHICH WOULD TAKE 'EM TO, UH, EITHER HARBOR DRIVE TO GO BACK UP TO SAN DIEGO OR TO PUT 'EM ONTO FIVE THERE JUST MAKES A HUNDRED TIMES MORE SENSE.
AND I KNOW WE LIKE TO WORK WITH THE PORT ON THAT AS FAR AS FOR CIA AND ALL THE REST OF THEM TO GET THAT AS A DESIGNATED TRUCK ROUTE.
AND 'CAUSE THAT'S TIDELANDS THERE, THAT'S THE WIDEST STREET WE HAVE IN THE CITY AND IT'S ONLY TWO LANES, BUT IT'S STILL THE WIDEST STREET WE'VE GOT IN THE ENTIRE CITY.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S NOT THAT, THAT KIND OF LIMITATION THERE.
AND HOPEFULLY BEFORE LONG, I KNOW SHE'S ALSO GOT SOME STUFF IN THERE ABOUT BICYCLE PASSING THERE AND HOPEFULLY BEFORE LONG THE BICYCLE PASSING NOT GONNA BE IN THAT AREA MORE IT'LL BE OVER ON MCKINLEY AND, UH, SO WE'LL EVEN TAKE THAT, THAT OUT OF THE EQUATION.
UM, THE, UH, EXCUSE ME, MAYOR, I HAD A A QUESTION ON WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT.
SO YOU SAID, UH, NUMBER FIVE ON 24TH STREET, SO YOUR ISSUE WAS NORTHBOUND SOUTHBOUND EITHER WAY, ENTRANCE EXIT, YEAH.
IN OTHER WORDS, GETTING 'EM ONTO 24TH STREET ITSELF, TAKING IT DOWN IT AND TAKING IT, TRYING TO GET TO THE FREEWAY FROM THAT POINT.
UH, AND I SAY THAT'S THE AREA THAT'S GOING, YOU KNOW, GOING FOR DEVELOPMENT AND RIGHT.
ONLY THAT, BUT RIGHT NOW, EVEN WITH WHAT TRUCK TRAFFIC WE HAVE THERE, IT IS CONSTANTLY JAMMING UP UNDERNEATH THAT FREEWAY AND, UH, SO TO ADD MORE TRUCK TRAFFIC THERE AND YOU'RE NOT THE ONLY PROPOSAL THAT'S COMING BEFORE US.
WE, I MEAN, NOT ONLY THIS PROJECT, BUT WE HAVE THIS BIOFUEL PROJECT, WHICH IS GETTING READY TO COME TO US TOO WITH MORE TRUCK TRAFFIC.
UM, SO WE WOULD REQUEST OR WE WOULD WANT THE, UH, TRUCK TRAFFIC FROM COMING SOUTHBOUND ON THE FIVE TO EXIT OFF OF, UH, CIVIC CENTER AND THEN MAKE A LEFT AND THEN GO DOWN AND OR COME DOWN HARBOR DRIVE IF THEY'RE COMING FROM THE 10TH AVENUE TERMINAL.
ARE WE EXPECTING SOUTHBOUND TRAFFIC WITH, UH, COMING INTO THIS? THEY WOULD HAVE TO BECAUSE ALL THE, ALL THE VEHICLES THAT CHA DOLE AND EVERYTHING ELSE DOWN THERE ARE GONNA HAVE TO COME DOWN HERE FOR FUELING OR, OR I SHOULD SAY NORTHBOUND TRAFFIC.
SO COMING FROM, WOULD WE OH, FROM THE SOUTH, YES.
WOULD PROBABLY BE VERY MINIMAL AND EVEN THAT CAN STILL GET OFF AT THAT CIVIC CENTER.
JUST SO I UNDERSTAND THE TRAFFIC FLOW.
BUT YEAH, BUT I, IN MY OPINION, AND, AND YOU KNOW, WE CAN ALWAYS TALK WITH, UH, OUR CITY ENGINEER AND TRAFFIC CONSULTANTS, BUT I THINK, UH, THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ON TRUCK TRUCKING THERE ON 24TH STREET IS, IS PRETTY EXTREME.
AND, UM, THE, UH, SO YOU NOT ONLY HAVE THAT, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE THE RAILROAD AND EVERYTHING ELSE THERE,
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WHICH CAUSES PROBLEMS. UM, GREAT.AND YES, WE WERE INTENDING TO FOLLOW THE CURRENT DESIGNATED TRUCK ROUTES.
OBVIOUSLY VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THOSE NEED TO CHANGE BECAUSE OF OTHER CONDITIONS.
I MEAN, WE ARE NOT TRYING TO PROPOSE TO ADD ANY TRAFFIC.
THIS IS MEANT TO REPLACE CURRENT TRAFFIC.
WELL, AND, AND THEN THERE WAS THE DEAL SAYING THAT THIS WOULD KIND OF BE A NET ZERO BECAUSE THE TRUCKS ARE ALREADY THERE.
AND TO TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT, IT'S A NET GAIN WE'VE TARGETED PARTICULARLY, UM, THE NATIONAL CITY TERMINAL TRUCK TRAFFIC.
SO THERE IS LIKELY GONNA BE A DIFFERENT CHARGING SOLUTION NEEDED FOR THE 10TH AVENUE TRUCK.
AS GOOD LUCK WITH THAT BECAUSE SOME OF THAT, ALTHOUGH SOME, SOME PEOPLE HAVE SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW, NATIONAL CITY, WELL, YOU GUYS WERE AGAINST ELECTRIFICATION.
NO, WE'RE NOT AGAINST ELECTRIFICATION, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE MAYBE CHULA VISTA, IMPERIAL BEACH, CORONADO AND SAN DIEGO ARE, 'CAUSE THEY'RE NOT PROPOSING ANY OF THIS IN THEIR CITY AND I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GONNA PUT THEIR HANDS UP AND VOLUNTEER EITHER, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
UH, SO, UH, 'CAUSE THEY DON'T WANT THE TRUCK TRAFFIC AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
PLUS THIS TRUCK TRAFFIC WILL BE A LOT HEAVIER THAN WHAT IS EXISTS NOW AS FAR AS THE 18 WHEELERS.
SO A LOT, A LOT ON STREETS AND EVERYTHING ELSE ALONG THAT LINE.
SO, UM, SO THERE WILL BE AN ADDITIONAL, I THINK A LOT OF ADDITIONAL TRUCK TRAFFIC AND CERTAINLY I DON'T THINK THE PORT THAT I'M AWARE OF HAS ANY PLANS ON, UH, CURRENTLY ON THEIR DRAWING BOARDS FOR PUTTING ANOTHER ONE THAT WOULD TAKE CARE OF 10TH AVENUE.
EVERYTHING I'VE HEARD IS THAT THIS WOULD BE TAKEN CARE OF BOTH TERMINALS AND, UH, SO THERE'S THAT.
UM, THE OTHER THING BEING, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT COMMUNITY BENEFIT, AND I KNOW HAS A LOT OF THINGS ON HERE, WHICH SOUNDS REALLY GOOD.
THERE'S ONE BENEFIT THAT I SEE MISSING HERE, AND THAT IS WHO IS ACTUALLY GOING TO HAVE TO, I'M GONNA SAY PAY FOR THE DIFFERENCE ON THIS, UM, BECAUSE THERE IS GOING TO BE A LOT MORE TRUCK TRAFFIC, WHICH MEANS A LOT MORE ROAD USE AND ROAD REPAIRS.
THERE'S ALSO, BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE LITHIUM BATTERIES AND EVERYTHING ELSE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THERE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO INCREASE THE CAPACITY OF OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, WHETHER IF IT'S EVER USED THERE OR NOT.
BUT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE THAT CAPACITY IN CASE OF EMERGENCY.
IT'S GONNA BE A LOT OF EXPENSE ON THE CITY.
UM, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE ORGANIZATIONS AREN'T GONNA HAVE ANY EXPENSE ON THIS.
THE CITY IS THE ONE THAT'S GONNA BE HAVING THE EXPENSE.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, I WOULD PROPOSE THAT YOU SERIOUSLY LOOK AT, IN, IN THE TRASH BUSINESS, THEY CALL IT A TIPPING FEE.
AND SO, SO MUCH PER TON OR SOMETHING MEASURABLE, AND THEN THAT TAKES CARE OF THE IMPACTS THAT THAT CITY DOES FOR A SITING A TRANSFER STATION OR WHATEVER.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S GONNA BE, THE EXPENSES HERE ARE NOT GONNA BE, AND AND DON'T MEAN TO PICK ON 'EM, BUT NOT GONNA BE BE ON NONPROFITS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
THEY'RE GONNA BE ON THE CITY AND YET THE REVENUE FROM THIS IS GOING TO THE PORT AND, YOU KNOW, AND, UH, YEAH, NOT, AND YET WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE EXPENSES.
UM, SO WE'RE NOT BLAMING, IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT, WE'RE JUST SAYING THESE ARE YEAH, WE JUST ARE FACTS JUST, JUST TRYING TO BE GOOD TO GET THE FACTS.
WE WE'RE JUST TRYING TO BE REAL HERE.
AND, UH, SO ANYWAY, SO THAT'S, I THINK IS A CONCERN IN LOOKING AT THAT.
UM, THOSE WERE, I THINK SOME OF MY MAJOR KIND OF CONCERNS WITH THIS.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, AND THIS IS GONNA BE THE SAME WITH ANY PRESENTATION, UH, WHATEVER ELSE, BUT, AND THAT WE, WE LOOK AT THIS THING FROM A HOLISTIC, WE CERTAINLY HAVE BEEN WILLING TO DO OUR SHARE.
I THINK WE'VE DONE A LOT MORE THAN OUR SHARE AS A CITY, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO TAKING CARE OF THE NEEDS, THE NEGATIVE NEEDS OF ALL THE OTHER CITIES AROUND US.
AND, UM, AND THEY TAKE ALL THE POSITIVES.
SO WE, WE, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS AS MORE OF A NEUTRAL, AT LEAST NEUTRAL THING.
AND WELL, WE'RE HOPE TO MAKE IT A POSITIVE THING.
SO WE'RE HOPING TO MAKE IT A POSITIVE.
WELL, WE CAN MAKE IT A POSITIVE, BUT EVEN IF IT'S JUST NEUTRAL SO IT MEETS, YOU KNOW, SO THAT THE, THE PEOPLE OF NATIONAL CITY DON'T HAVE TO PUT OUT THE EXPENSES TO DO ALL THIS STUFF AND TAKE AWAY FROM PROGRAMS THAT SHOULD BE GOING FOR THEM AND SO THAT THE MONEY CAN BE GIVEN TO SOME OTHER GROUPS OR SOMETHING THAT REALLY DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF VESTED IN THIS.
I THINK WE HAD, UH, REMEMBER MOLINA WAS THE NEXT HAND I SAW.
THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND THE MEMBERS THAT ARE ON ZOOM AS WELL.
UM, I DO AGREE WITH THE MAYOR THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR NATIONAL CITY TO, UH, SUPPORT THE EFFORTS OF THE PORT, OF COURSE THE ELECTRIFICATION.
IT'S, UM, THAT IS A FANTASTIC IDEA AND YES, I DO WANT OUR CITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT AND HELP THE ENVIRONMENT AND HELP, YOU KNOW, EVENTUALLY CLEAN UP THE AIR AROUND THAT AREA.
HOWEVER, I DO AGREE WITH THE MAYOR THAT, UM, NATIONAL CITY CANNOT
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BE SUPPORTING THIS SOLELY, UH, FOR THE ENTIRE REGION.IT IS TOO MUCH, UM, TRUCK TRAFFIC AND, AND I UNDERSTAND YOUR ARGUMENT THAT PERHAPS THERE WILL BE ANOTHER CHARGING STATION ON 10TH AVENUE, BUT IT ISN'T THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE ARE HEARING AT THE MOMENT.
SO WE REALLY DO NEED TO BE REALISTIC ABOUT THIS AND, UM, YOU KNOW, STAND UP FOR NATIONAL CITY AND HAVE NATIONAL CITY NO LONGER BE THE ONE CITY THAT TAKES THE BRUNT OF THE WORK AND THE CHANGES THAT ARE NEEDED WITH THE PORT.
UM, MY QUESTION, UH, I MEAN, I HAVE SEVERAL QUESTIONS, BUT THE ONE I WANTED TO FOCUS ON BECAUSE THE MAYOR HAD BROUGHT UP THE SCHEDULE.
UM, SO I DO UNDERSTAND IT'S A VERY, UM, AMBITIOUS SCHEDULE.
I WOULD SAY TWO YEARS, UH, IS UM, WOULD BE FANTASTIC IF IT HAPPENED THAT WAY.
AND I THINK ONE OF THE BIGGEST, UM, HURDLES HERE WOULD BE THAT, UM, ITEM IN PINK, THE THIRD ONE DOWN UTILITY CONNECTION.
I WANTED TO KNOW, HAVE YOU HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH, WITH SDG AND E ABOUT THAT PORTION OF IT, THE UTILITY CONNECTION, AND THEN ALSO IS US UM, SDG E PREPARED TO PROVIDE THE, THE NETWORK THAT'S NECESSARY TO PROVIDE ALL OF THIS ENERGY FOR CHARGING THESE TRUCKS WITHIN TWO YEARS? SURE, YES, I CAN SPEAK TO THAT.
SO, UM, AS PART OF A COMPETITIVE PROCESS RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE HAD ING CONVERSATIONS WITH SG, G AND E, HOWEVER, THEY'RE NOT WILLING TO GO DOWN THE ROUTE OF STUDYING THIS UNTIL A FINALIST IS SELECTED.
THEY HAVE WORKED WITH THE PORT, AND THE PORT ACTUALLY REGULARLY WORKS WITH SG GE TO PROACTIVELY PLAN FOR THE PORT'S FUTURE NEEDS.
AND THEY HAVE INDICATED THAT THERE IS FIVE MEGAWATTS, WHICH IS WHAT WE'VE SIZED THE FULL PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO OF THE PROJECT TO SPECIFICALLY MEET WHAT SDE HAS SAID IS AVAILABLE.
AND THAT WE ALL KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, REALLY REQUIRES THE DETAILED ENGINEERING FROM THEIR, UM, FROM THEIR PLANNING DEPARTMENTS WITHIN SDG AND E.
SO THAT IS SOMETHING WE CERTAINLY HAVE SELECTED AND THAT'S SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, OUR TEAM HAS DONE A LOT OF IS WORKING WITH UTILITIES ON THIS SORT OF PLANNING.
SO THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST STEP IF WE WERE SELECTED TO WORK WITH SG E BUT THAT IS WHAT THEY'VE INDICATED, AT LEAST BASED ON THEIR CONVERSATION WITH THE PORT TO DATE, THAT THERE WOULD BE FIVE MEGAWATTS AVAILABLE FOR THIS PROJECT CURRENTLY.
SO I, I WANNA UNDERSTAND THAT CLEARLY.
UM, I THINK I HEAR, I MEAN, I HEAR YOU SAYING THAT THE PORT HAS HAD COMMITMENT FROM SDG AND E ABOUT BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE FIVE, YOU SAID FIVE MEGAWATTS.
MM-HMM
AND, AND THE PORT HAS RECEIVED, UH, SOME SORT OF AGREEMENT FROM SDG E THAT THIS IS, THIS IS POSSIBLE, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT, YEAH, IT CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE RIGHT I COURT AND SD E AND THEIR CONVERSATION.
BUT THAT IS WHAT IN THE RFP MATERIALS HAVE BEEN CHARACTERIZED AS BEING AVAILABLE.
THAT'S YOUR, THAT'S YOUR INTERPRETATION OF, OF WHAT'S AVAILABLE.
UM, AND THE PROJECT THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING, BOTH PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO FIT WITHIN THAT FIVE MEGAWATT, RIGHT? YEAH.
UM, THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR NOW, MAYOR.
UH, I BELIEVE, UH, MEMBER BUSH NEXT.
SO, UH, THANKS SO MUCH FOR COMING AND PRESENT TO US AND APOLOGIZE FOR, UH, BEING LATE AND MISSING THE FIRST PART OF, UH, YOUR PRESENTATION.
BUT I DID READ THROUGH IT, UM, APPRECIATE THE RENDERINGS AND THE DETAILS.
SO JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS JUST SO I UNDERSTAND HOW THE, UH, I MIGHT'VE MISSED THIS ALREADY, BUT IN TERMS OF THE, UM, OPERATIONS, SO THE MAJORITY OF THESE TRUCKS ARE GOING TO COME FROM THE 10TH, UM, 10TH AVENUE TERMINAL, OR THEY'RE ALSO WITH FROM PEISHA.
LIKE IF YOU COULD JUST EXPLAIN TO ME WHERE, WHERE THESE TRUCKS WILL BE COMING FROM.
THE TWO CUSTOMERS WE HAVE TALKED TO A BIT ARE, UM, PEISHA AGAIN, SO, YOU KNOW, MAJORITY OF THAT COMING FROM THE NATIONAL CITY TERMINAL AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND THE
BUT, AND WE'VE ALSO WORKED WITH SOME OF, WITH DOLE A BIT, AND SOME OF THE TRUCKING OPERATORS THAT SERVE DOLE, WHICH ARE TEND TO BE SOME THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH ARE, YOU KNOW, MUCH SMALLER OWNER OPERATORS THERE, UM, INCLUDING JOCKO TRUCKING, WHICH IS A FLEET THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, OWNS JUST FIVE VEHICLES AND, AND WANTS TO TRANSITION TO EV.
SO, UM, GAGE WOULD MAKE THEIR MONEY, YOU GUYS WOULD MAKE YOUR MONEY OFF OF CHARGING FEES FOR THE TRUCK'S ELECTRICAL USES AND THEN THE REVENUE FROM THE RETAIL.
AND THEN IS THERE, CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN TO ME HOW, LIKE WHAT THE REVENUE, THE INCOME IS FOR YOU ALL? YEAH, THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.
AND IT MEANT TO BE, YOU KNOW, COST COMPETITIVE WITH THE FLEET'S CURRENT COST OF MAINTAINING, FUELING A DIESEL TRUCK.
SO THAT'S KIND OF THE POINT THAT WE'RE GETTING TO, UM, WITH
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EV IS THAT IT IS COST COMPETITIVE WITH THE CURRENT OPTIONS.DO WE KNOW AN ESTIMATE? IS IT IN THE RFP WHAT YOUR LEASE PERIOD WOULD BE WITH THE PORT? UM, THERE IS SAM, WOULD YOU SPEAK TO THAT? I KNOW, UH, THAT YES, I BELIEVE IT'S 20 YEAR, IF I REMEMBER.
YEAH, WE'VE PROPOSED 20 YEARS.
UM, BUT WE'RE OPEN TO FEEDBACK ON THAT.
UH, THEY, YOU KNOW, THE PORT COMMISSIONERS EXPRESSED A DESIRE FOR A LONGER TERM, UM, THAN WHAT WE HAD ORIGINALLY PROPOSED.
SO WE, WE INCREASED IT TO 20 AND WE'LL HEAR WHAT THE FEEDBACK IS ABOUT THAT, I GUESS WHEN WE NEXT SPEAK WITH THEM.
SO THE PORT, SO 20 YEARS IS, UM, WELL, I GUESS REWINDING TAKE A STEP BACK.
WHERE ARE WE? I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S PORT STAFF, I SHOULD DIRECT THIS QUESTION.
SO, BUT, UM, I, I'M JUST TRYING TO GET A SENSE OF THE, THE PORT'S RFP TIMELINE.
'CAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE A STAFF REPORT, SO I'M JUST KIND OF LIKE, YEAH, YEAH.
SAM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANNA TAKE THAT ON.
BEST KNOWLEDGE OF PORT'S TIMING HERE I THINK REMAINS A TAD BIT UNCLEAR, BUT HAPPY TO GET YOUR THOUGHTS THERE.
SO WHAT I HAVE BEEN TOLD, UM, BY PORT STAFF, WHICH IS, WHICH MEANS MAGGIE, UM, IS THAT THERE'S A CLOSED SESSION THAT THE PORT, UH, COMMISSIONERS WILL BE HAVING ON THE 13TH OF FEBRUARY.
AND AT THAT, UH, MEETING THEY WILL BE, UM, DISCUSSING SOMETHING ABOUT NEGOTIATING WITH THE FINALISTS.
I I DON'T KNOW WHAT, SHE WASN'T ABLE TO TELL ME ANYTHING MORE THAN THAT.
UM, BUT THEY ARE CURRENTLY AIMING TO HAVE AN OPEN SESSION ON MARCH 12TH, I THINK WHATEVER THE TUESDAY IS THAT WEEK.
I BELIEVE IT'S THE 12TH OF MARCH, UM, WHERE THE, THE STAFF WILL BE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION AS TO WHICH FINALIST STAFF BELIEFS, UH, SHOULD BE, SHOULD BE, UH, SHOULD WIN THE RFP, BUT IT WILL BE UP TO THE COMMISSIONERS TO DECIDE IF THEY AGREE WITH THAT OR IF THEY, YOU KNOW, WANNA DELIBERATE OR MAKE A DIFFERENT DECISION.
UM, BUT CURRENTLY THE TIMING WOULD BE THAT A DECISION WOULD BE MADE AT THE MARCH, UM, PORT COMMISSIONER MEETING AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE FINALS WOULD BE SELECTED AT THAT POINT AND THEN THE PROJECT COULD BEGIN.
OF COURSE, WHETHER THAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS REMAINS TO BE SEEN.
UM, I, I HOPE THAT THAT IS THE TIMING.
OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, EVERY MONTH THAT GOES BY WHEN A DECISION HAS NOT BEEN MADE IS ANOTHER MONTH LONGER IT WILL TAKE FOR THIS PROJECT TO COME ONLINE.
SO WE CERTAINLY ARE EAGER, AS I'M SURE MANY PEOPLE ARE FOR A DECISION TO BE MADE AS SOON AS IT CAN BE.
BUT WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A PROCESS THAT HAS TO BE FOLLOWED AND THIS IS NEW AND DIFFERENT AND, YOU KNOW, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE FOLLOWING, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE REQUESTS THAT THE PORT IS MAKING.
I THINK, SAM, TO SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE ACKNOWLEDGE EVEN ONCE THE DECISION IS MADE, THAT JUST STARTS A LONG PROCESS OF NEGOTIATING LEASES WITH THE PORT OF COMING BACK TO YOU ALL AND ACTUALLY PROPOSING A PROJECT, UM, THAT WILL, YOU KNOW, HAPPEN WITHIN YOUR CITY.
SO WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT SELECTION IS ONLY THE FIRST STEP TO EVEN GET INTO WHAT THE PROJECT IS ACTUALLY GOING TO LOOK LIKE AND WHAT THE FINAL SCHEDULE WILL BE IN ALL OF THOSE PIECES.
WE JUST WANNA, SO FEBRUARY, THANK YOU.
SO THIS MONTH THE PORT WILL BE MEETING IN CLOSED SESSION, THE PORT BOARD TO DISCUSS THIS.
THEN IN MARCH THEY WILL COME BACK WITH A RECOMMENDED FINALIST IN MAY.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE THAT'S CORRECT.
THAT'S WHAT'S CURRENTLY SCHEDULED, THAT WHAT'S RIGHT.
SO IS, UM, UH, THEN MY QUESTION, AND MAYBE THIS IS TO PORT STAFF, UM, I'M CONFUSED AS TO WHERE NATIONAL CITY'S OFFICIAL PART OF THE PROCESS IS, IS, I MEAN, YEAH, BECAUSE, SO WE'RE GIVING SOME VERBAL RECOMMENDATIONS HERE, THAT'S GREAT.
BUT THEN WHERE ARE WE ACTUALLY INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS BE, AND MAYBE I WILL ASK OUR CITY MANAGER, HAVE WE BEEN INVOLVED IN CRAFTING THIS RFP? UM, SO THE CRI THE SCORING CRITERIA, I MEAN, SO IT'S JUST ALL THIS SOUNDS GREAT.
I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE MEASURING.
THE, THE MAYOR, YOU BROUGHT UP A LOT OF GREAT QUESTIONS ABOUT TRAFFIC AND TO ME THAT SHOULD BE PART OF THEIR CRITERIA.
AND TO ME AS THE MEMBER CITY, WE SHOULD BE INVOLVED FROM THE BEGINNING ON THAT CRITERIA.
SO HAVE WE BEEN INVOLVED CITY MANAGER, UM, SINCE I, I STARTED, UH, I WAS, I BECAME YOUR INTERIM CITY MANAGER ABOUT SEVEN, EIGHT MONTHS AGO.
SO ONE OF THE FIRST TELEPHONE CALLS I GOT WAS THIS PROJECT WHERE THE PORT HAD, UM, MS. WEBER HAD, UH, LET ME KNOW THAT THE PORT, UM, HAD, UH, UNDERTAKEN THIS RFP PROCESS AND THEY WANTED TO DO FURTHER OUTREACH.
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UH, THE NATIONAL CITY COMMUNITY AND NATIONAL CITY COUNCIL, THEY CAME AND MADE A PRESENTATION.I THINK IT WAS ABOUT NOVEMBER.
DOES THAT SOUND RIGHT TO THE CITY COUNCIL? MM-HMM.
AND SO WE, WE HAD THAT OUTREACH AND THEN THE PROCESSES CONTINUED.
UM, MAYBE THE COMMISSIONER CAN SPEAK MORE TO THE PAST AS TO WHEN THE RFP WAS DEVELOPED, THE CRITERIA, ET CETERA, BUT I'M NOT SURE IF WE WERE INVOLVED IN THAT.
AND I'M NOT MAD AT, I'M NOT SUGGESTING STAFF ANYTHING WRONG.
I'M JUST QUESTIONING OUR, UM, TO WHAT EXTENT, UM, HAVE, HAVE WE BEEN INVOLVED, INCLUDED, INVITED IN THIS PROCESS BECAUSE THERE'S NO ACTION HERE AND IT, IT JUST, IT SEEMS LIKE THIS, THIS IS ALL FIELD, THIS IS ALL LIKE, IT JUST, IT IN MISSING SOME ACTUAL CONCRETE STEPS INTO WHAT LIKE, NATIONAL CITY'S OFFICIAL INPUT OR EVEN DECISION MAKING IS IN PART OF THE PROCESS.
LIKE, IS IT A PANEL? CAN WE GET A REPRESENTATIVE, WHETHER IT'S WE APPOINTED CITY MANAGER OR OUR MAYOR, OR, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER MOLINA, WHOEVER TO BE LIKE, PART OF THE, THAT THAT'S, THAT'S JUST THE PART.
WE HAVE A REPORT COMMISSIONER AND SO THAT, THAT PART'S IMPORTANT, BUT I, I, I JUST, YEAH, I'M JUST WORRIED THIS IS BEING RUSHED AND SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS I'M NOT BLAMING EITHER THE PORT OR OUR STAFF, BUT JUST THIS FEELS RUSHED.
WELL, FOR THE RECORD, THIS IS SANDY AHO, PORT COMMISSIONER REPRESENTING CITY OF NATIONAL CITY FOR THE PORT OF SAN DIEGO.
UH, THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER BUSH FOR YOUR QUESTIONS.
UH, FOR CONTEXT, UH, WHEN WE ADOPTED AT THE PORT OF SAN DIEGO, THE MARITIME CLEAR CLEAN AIR STRATEGY, WE ADOPTED ONE OF THE MOST AGGRESSIVE, AMBITIOUS GOALS OF GOING ZERO EMISSION TRUCKS BY 2030.
AND SO WITHIN THAT, UM, WE HAD STRATEGIES TO OUTLINE, TO KIND OF WORK BACKWARDS OF WHAT WE NEEDED TO DO TO GET THERE.
SO HAVING THIS TRUCK STOP WAS PART OF THAT.
AND SO, UM, THAT WAS ADOPTED IN 2021, UH, DISCUSSION ABOUT FORMING THAT HAPPENED IN 2022.
AND SO THIS WAS PURELY STAFF DRIVEN AS FAR AS DEVELOPING THE RFP PROCESS, YOU KNOW, PUTTING IT OUT THERE ON THE BID.
AND THEN, UM, UH, CITY MANAGER IS CORRECT AS FAR AS, UM, THE CITY'S INVOLVEMENT HAS BEEN NOTIFYING THE CITY THAT THIS PROCESS HAS HAPPENED.
HERE'S THE APPLICANTS, THE, YOU KNOW, THE TOP TWO.
AND SO THE CITY MANAGER INVITED, UH, PORT STAFF AND MYSELF TO PRESENT IN THE FALL, UM, TO GIVE AN KIND OF UPDATE WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN AT OUR BOARD MEETING, WHICH WAS ON NOVEMBER 14TH WHERE WE DISCUSSED, UH, GAUGE ZERO AND SKY CHARGER.
AND RON, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANTED TO ADD SOMETHING ELSE, UH, RON POWELL IS ALSO HERE IS, HE'S A STAFF OF THE PORT OF SAN DIEGO.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER OF COMMISSIONER.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE QUESTION.
UH, YOU KNOW, AT AT, AT THIS POINT WE HAVE A SCHEDULE THAT WE PLAN TO, TO, TO STICK WITH AND ACTUALLY CHOOSE THE COMPANY THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO WITH IN MARCH.
WE WOULD LOVE FOR YOU GUYS TO COME DOWN TO THE, TO THE PORT BOARD MEETING, TALK ABOUT WHAT YOUR, UH, WHAT YOUR CONCERNS ARE.
I'M GOING TO TAKE BACK YOUR CONCERNS TODAY, BACK TO OUR TEAM, UH, TOMORROW, AND MAKE SURE EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS WHAT'S BEING SAID, WHAT NATIONAL CITY IS CONCERNED ABOUT.
I'VE HEARD ALL, I HEARD YOU, MAYOR, I HEARD YOU LOUD AND CLEAR.
I WANT YOU GUYS TO KNOW THAT I'M LISTENING AND OUR TEAM WILL KNOW WHAT YOUR CONCERNS ARE TOMORROW, WHAT WE'D LOVE FOR YOU TO COME TO THE MEETING, UH, COME TO OUR NEXT BOARD MEETING AND COMMENT, COME IN MARCH AND COMMENT, BUT THE BOARD OF POOR COMMISSION IS GONNA MAKE THE DECISION.
SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE ARE ON THIS.
AND UH, AND YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE THE INPUT.
YEAH, SO SPECIFICALLY IF YOU COULD TAKE THAT TO THEM.
AND SO YEAH, WE'RE NOT DIRECTING IT YOU, RON, WE LOVE YOU RON
UM, BUT IF YOU CAN TELL THEM THAT, UM, FOR PART OF THE SELECTION PROCESS, I'D LIKE I MEAN, I'D BE OPEN TO DISCUSSING MY COLLEAGUES WHAT Y'ALL THINK ABOUT IT.
BUT I WOULD LIKE OUR CITY MANAGER THERE IN THAT SELECTION SO THAT HE COULD BE, SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE A SEAT AT THE TABLE OR VOICE.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THE PORT, UH, MAY HAVE THE ACTUAL TECHNICAL APPROVAL, UH, LAND USE AUTHORITY.
UM, BUT THE RIGHT THING TO DO, THE RIGHT AND PROPER THING TO DO IS TO, YOU KNOW, WORK HAND IN HAND WITH, WITH THE JURISDICTION THAT THE CITY, THE AGENCY THEIR MOST IMPACTS.
SO THAT, THAT, THAT'S ALSO, I'M OPEN TO, YEAH.
AND I KNOW MAYOR, ANY OF MY COLLEAGUES.
WELL, I, I WOULD SAY YEAH, DEFINITELY, BECAUSE, AND I DON'T MEAN TO, YOU KNOW, GASLIGHT IT OR WHATEVER ELSE, BUT I GUARANTEE IF THIS, IF THIS WAS BEING PROPOSED IN CORONADO, THEY WOULD BE SITTING DOWN WITH THE GOVERNMENT THERE
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AND SAYING, OKAY, HOW, HOW DO WE WORK TO MAKE THIS THING HAPPEN? UM, BUT YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE'VE BEEN THE GIVER FOR SO LONG, UM, AND WE DON'T MIND GIVING AND BEING A PART OF SOLUTIONS.WE JUST WANT TO BE, MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THERE ARE CITIZENS AND EVERYTHING ARE TREATED RIGHT, JUST AS YOU WOULD IF HE WAS IN ONE OF THE OTHER FOUR, UH, PORT CITIES.
UM, LIKE THE FIRE RISK YOU BROUGHT UP WITH THE LI LITHIUM BATTERIES.
LIKE, I I, SO THAT'S, AND THAT, THAT'S NOT, I DON'T THINK NECESSARILY THE APPLICANTS, I DON'T THINK THAT'S THEIR ROLE.
NO, I FEEL LIKE THAT'S A PORT ROLE TO COME TO US AND EXPLAIN WHAT THAT, OR EVEN IF IT'S NOT IN THIS MEETING, THEN OUR CITY STAFF, LIKE I, I WANT, BUT YEAH, I, I WOULD LIKE OUR CITY STAFF ACTUALLY THERE ON POTENTIALLY IN SELECTION PANEL.
WHAT DO YOU YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT? WELL, I MEAN, IT'S THEIR SELECTION, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD DEFINITELY HAVE THE INPUT INTO IT.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, AND I, I THINK WE REALIZE WHAT OUR DIFFERENT ROLES ARE, BUT I THINK WE DEFINITELY SHOULD HAVE OUR VOICE VERY, VERY, UH, PREDOMINANTLY AND A PART OF THIS THING.
AND AS I SAY, I WOULD ASSUME THAT IF YOU'RE AT ONE OF THE OTHER FOUR CITIES, THAT WOULD'VE BEEN EXPECTED, AND I THINK WE SHOULD EXPECT THE SAME THING.
AND, UH, LIKE AS I SAID, I'M, I'M MONITORING THIS MEETING.
I WAS A
I TAKE YES, I REMEMBER VERY GOOD NOTES.
UH, AND I WILL MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S REFLECTED IN MY MESSAGE TO OUR TEAM.
OKAY, CARLY? UH, WE'RE GONNA OPEN IT.
I, I'M, YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT OFF THE HOT SEAT YET.
I, I THINK JOSE, YOU WERE NEXT AND THEN YOU'RE, THANK YOU, MS. MERRI.
UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING AND, UH, FOR EXPLAINING THIS PROJECT THOROUGHLY.
UM, AGAIN, UH, I DON'T THINK YOU'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE, BUT WE'VE HAD THIS PRESENTATION IN DIFFERENT ITERATIONS MONTHS BACK, SO THANK YOU FOR KEEPING US IN THE LOOP.
UM, I DO HEAR SOME OF THE COMMENTS OF MY COLLEAGUES AND THE NEED FOR NATIONAL CITY TO BE AT THE TABLE, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY THE DECISION MAKERS.
I THINK THAT'S CRITICAL AND IMPORTANT.
UM, I AM ALSO, UM, UH, TORN BECAUSE ON ONE END WE HAVE BEEN SAYING FOR YEARS THAT THE WEST SIDE IN PARTICULAR HAS ONE OF THE HIGHEST POLLUTION RATES IN THE, IN THE STATE.
AND A PORTION OF THAT IS BECAUSE OF THE TRAIN AND ALSO THE, UM, TRUCKS.
UM, AND WE LITERALLY IMPORT VEHICLES AT OUR BIGGEST, UH, UH, AT, AT OUR TERMINAL.
SO OF COURSE WE'RE GONNA SEE POLLUTION.
THIS SEEMS LIKE A VERY GOOD IDEA.
SEEN AS, UM, YOU KNOW, TECHNOLOGY IS GETTING BETTER AND, UM, IT IS GOING TO HAVE A POSITIVE IMPACT IN OUR ENVIRONMENT.
SO I THINK, I THINK, UM, IT'S TAKEN THE PORT AND OUR COMMISSIONER YEARS TO CONTINUE TO PUSH AND GET HERE.
SO I THINK IT'S A VERY GOOD PROJECT.
I THINK WE DO HAVE TO LOOK AT MITIGATING FACTORS, INCLUDING TRAFFIC AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
UH, BUT ALL IN ALL, I THINK IT'S FANTASTIC.
I DO HAVE JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
UM, YOU MENTIONED THE FINANCING FOR THE, UM, OPERATORS.
SO CAN YOU WALK ME THROUGH THAT OR I'M NOT SURE IF YOU CAN, BUT, UH, SO THERE'S LIKE SOME OF THE BIGGER OPERATORS THAT MAY USE IT ON A MORE CONSTANT BASIS AND SOME OF THE SMALLER ONES.
HOW DOES THAT, HOW DOES THAT FINANCING WORK FOR THEM? YEAH, SURE.
AND SAM, STEP IN HERE IF ANYTHING YOU WANNA ADD, BUT, UM, SO THE FINANCING FOR THE VEHICLES THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH A COUPLE PARTNERS THAT OFFER LEASES FOR EV, THAT'S ACTUALLY PRETTY NEW.
YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY EV TRUCKS ARE JUST ON THE MARKET OVER THE PAST COUPLE YEARS.
SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING REALLY HARD TO FIND, UH, YOU KNOW, VIABLE BACKABLE OPTIONS THAT WE CAN OFFER TO OUR CUSTOMERS, WHICH ARE THE, THE TRUCK DRIVERS AND THE INDEPENDENT OWNER OPERATORS TO ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, LEASE OR FINANCE THESE VEHICLES SO THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE UPFRONT COST THERE.
'CAUSE IT'S, UM, STILL MORE EXPENSIVE THAN A DIESEL TRUCK TO BUY A NEW EV.
AND THERE'S A LOT OF INCENTIVES FROM, UM, HV OTHERS THAT YOU MAY HAVE HEARD OF THAT HELPED TO BRING DOWN THAT COST.
SO KIND OF WORKING WITH THOSE DRIVERS TO BOTH ENABLE THEM TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THOSE INCENTIVES AND THEN SPREAD THAT COST OF THE UPFRONT VEHICLE OVER TIME.
IS THERE GENERAL INTEREST FROM SOME OF THE SMALLER OPERATORS TO ACTUALLY MAKE SUCH A SUBSTANTIAL INVESTMENT? AND I ASK BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I, I ACTUALLY KNOW, UM, UM, A HANDFUL OF INDIVIDUALS THAT OWN THEIR OWN TRUCKS AND IT'S BECOME THEIR BUSINESS AND THAT OF THEIR FAMILY AND IT'S A HUGE INVESTMENT FOR THEM AND IT'S REALLY A CAREER FOR THEM.
UM, SO THAT, THAT'S WHY I HAVE A LOT OF INTEREST.
I THINK THERE'S QUESTION OF, HEY, CAN WE ACTUALLY MAKE THIS WORK? AND THERE'S ALSO, YOU KNOW, REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS THAT WE REALLY WANNA HELP THEM WITH.
SO THERE'S RECENT CARB RULES THAT THE ENFORCEMENT IS DELAYED ON.
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KNOW, WOULD HAVE COME INTO EFFECT THIS JANUARY AND NOW WILL COME INTO EFFECT, IT SEEMS LIKE AT SOME POINT, POTENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE BEEN DELAYED MAYBE A YEAR, BUT THAT WILL REQUIRE ANY DRAYAGE TRUCK TO BE EV IF THEY'RE GONNA, UH, SWITCH INTO A NEW VEHICLESO, UM, THIS IS COMING AND WE WANNA ENABLE THOSE SMALL OPERATORS TO STAY IN BUSINESS, BUT, YOU KNOW, THE ONLY WAY WE CAN DO SO IS BY OFFERING THESE SORT OF LIKE FINANCING AND LEASING OPTIONS SO THAT THEY CAN ACTUALLY COMPLY WITH THESE REGULATIONS.
OTHERWISE, IT'S GONNA BE VERY HARD FOR THEM TO DO THAT, WHICH WE COMPLETELY ACKNOWLEDGE, AND IT'S SOMETHING WE ARE REALLY PASSIONATE ABOUT AND THOUGHTFUL ABOUT.
LIKE, HOW DO WE ACTUALLY ENABLE THIS TO HAPPEN FOR PEOPLE WHO, YOU KNOW, AREN'T THESE LARGE OPERATIONS THAT CAN JUST GO OUT AND PURCHASE EVS.
WELL, THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION AND FOR WORKING WITH SOME OF THE SMALLER OPERATORS.
I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
UM, UH, TO THE POINT ABOUT THE NUMBER OF TRUCKS THAT ARE EXPECTED, I BELIEVE IN THE REPORT IT SAID THAT THERE WAS, UM, SPACE FOR 80 SOME ODD 96 TRUCKS.
IS THAT CORRECT? IS THAT 96 AT ONE TIME OR 96 THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF A WEEK? OR 96? HOW DOES THAT YEAH, I BELIEVE IT'S 96 OUT OF THE COURSE OF A DAY AND THAT THERE'S 46 STALLS.
SO THOSE WOULDN'T ALL BE NECESSARILY THERE AT ONCE LIKELY, BUT THAT WOULD BE 98 THROUGHOUT THE DAY THAT WOULD BE CHARGING THERE.
AND WOULD YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW HOW MANY OF THOSE WOULD BE UTILIZED BY, UM, TENANTS IN THE NATIONAL CITY MARINE TERMINAL? IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
WE'VE WORKED WITH A FEW, UM, OF THE FLEETS TO UNDERSTAND THEIR, YOU KNOW, GOALS FOR EV TRANSITION.
UM, SO ON, YOU KNOW, AT HAR WE CAN COME BACK IF THERE'S A GOOD NUMBER ON LIKE HOW MANY OF THOSE WOULD BE FROM NATIONAL CITY VERSUS, UM, 10TH AVENUE MARINE TERMINALS.
I MEAN, IT, IT MIGHT, UM, YOU KNOW, TO SOME OF THE CONCERNS OF MY COLLEAGUES, UM, EASE UP SOME OF THEM.
WE MIGHT NOT SEE THAT MUCH MORE TRAFFIC BECAUSE THERE WOULD BE TRUCKS THAT ARE ALREADY EXISTING NOW AND ARE ALREADY TRANSPORTING GOODS WITHIN THE NATIONAL CITY MARINE TERMINAL.
SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO KIND OF REALIZE WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM AND WHERE THEY'RE GOING, AND IF THEY'RE JUST ESSENTIALLY REPLACING OTHER ONES THAT HAD ALREADY BEEN IN PLACE HERE IN NATIONAL CITY.
AND AS YOU GUYS ARE AWARE, I MEAN, PASHA IS ONE OF THE FLEETS THAT HAS ALREADY STARTED TO TRANSITION TO EV, THEY BOUGHT THEIR FIRST EVS A FEW YEARS AGO.
THEY HAVE INTENTIONS TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
SO THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, A MAJOR SOURCE OF POTENTIAL CHARGING AND A, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS PROJECT AND, AND SUBMITTED A LETTER OF SUPPORT FOR OUR RFP RESPONSE, AND WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATION WITH THEM.
BY NO MEANS THE ONLY, BUT NOW WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I THINK IT'S A FANTASTIC PROJECT.
DEFINITELY LOOK FORWARD TO SEE IT COME TO FRUITION.
UM, IT'S ALWAYS EXCITING TO BE INFORMED OF PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THE PIPELINE OR COMING TO THE PIPELINE.
UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I'VE HEARD THE COMMENTS AND I'VE READ YOUR BACKGROUND AS WELL.
UM, I, I WOULD LIKE TO ECHO AGAIN, THE, UH, MITIGATING FACTORS, UM, WITH REGARDS TO THE USE OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, AS WELL AS, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN THE, THE, THE JOB CREATION AND, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I, I AM GRATEFUL FOR, I KNOW WHEN I TALKED TO COMMISSIONER, UM, CHAIR ORTA AND I SAID, WHEN IT'S A PROJECT THAT IMPACTS NATIONAL CITY, THAT WE ARE INFORMED, THANK YOU FOR OUR COMMISSIONER SANDY NARANJO, FOR PUSHING THAT, THAT WE ARE INFORMED OF THE PROJECTS.
WE DON'T WANT SURPRISES NO LONGER FOR NATIONAL CITY.
AND THAT'S ALSO, UM, OUR CITY MANAGER'S, UM, DIRECTION.
UM, ALSO WITH REGARDS TO, UM, UM, THE JOB CREATION, UM, WITH, WITH THE PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THE PIPELINE, WE, WE ARE, UM, WE'RE INTERESTED OR I AM INTERESTED TO SEE HOW, HOW THAT WILL MOVE FORWARD, UM, WITH YOUR, UM, WITH YOUR COMMUNITY OUTREACH.
UM, I WOULD INCLUDE MR. POWELL, UM, YOU KNOW, MA'AM, UM, THE, THE, OUR CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, THIS IMPACTS A LOT OF BUSINESSES IN OUR CITY, SO PLEASE, UM, DON'T OVERLOOK THE CHAMBER.
UM, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I LOOK FORWARD TO THE FRUITION OF THIS.
HOPEFULLY YOU OR GET IT OR WHATEVER THE PORT COMMISSION WILL, WILL MAKE A DECISION, BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO BE, UM, WELL-INFORMED OF THE PROJECT THAT IMPACTS NATIONAL CITY.
UM, FIRST, DID I HEAR YOU SAY THAT, UH, YOU RECEIVED A LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM PEISHA? DID, THAT'S PART OF
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OUR YEAH.I THINK FOR BOTH PARTICIPANTS POTENTIALLY IN BOTH PARTICIPANTS RECEIVED A LETTER OF SUPPORT.
UM, AND THEN HOW, I'M SORRY IF YOU'VE ALREADY MENTIONED IT, HOW LONG DOES A TRUCK STAY PLUGGED IN AND HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE FOR IT TO GET FULLY CHARGED? NO, GREAT QUESTION.
UM, AND I DON'T THINK I'VE MENTIONED THAT YET.
UM, SO RANGES, WE ARE INSTALLING RELATIVELY HIGH POWERED CHARGERS, AS WAS PART OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE PORT RFP.
SO THE INITIAL 10 CHARGERS WILL BE THREE 50 KW, AND THEY CAN CHARGE A TYPICAL TRUCK IN SAY, AN HOUR OR TWO.
SO THOSE TRUCKS WOULD BE COMING TO THE SITE FOR MAYBE AN HOUR AT A TIME, UM, IN ORDER TO CHARGE.
IF THEY ARE FULLY, YOU KNOW, NEEDING TO DROP THEIR BATTERY, IT REALLY DEPENDS WHAT THEIR ROUTES ARE.
IF THEY'RE JUST RUNNING, YOU KNOW, KIND OF SHORT ROUTES, THEY MAY BE ABLE TO DO THAT IN EVEN SHORTER TIME.
I WAS THINKING IT WOULD TAKE SEVERAL HOURS, MAYBE EVEN OVERNIGHT.
AND ONE OF THE, UM, AMENITIES THAT YOU'RE OFFERING IS, UH, YOU KNOW, A LOCATION FOR THE DRIVERS TO SORT OF HANG OUT.
AND THEN I THOUGHT, DOES THAT INCLUDE LIKE A OVERNIGHT STAY? LIKE IS THERE A BEDS THAT YOU'RE THINKING OF PUTTING IN THERE? NOT BEDS NECESSARILY, ALTHOUGH PART OF THE REASON FOR OFFERING, FOR EXAMPLE, PASSENGER VEHICLES IS THAT, UM, THEY COULD BRING THEIR OWN VEHICLE, LEAVE IT FOR THE DAY, POTENTIALLY WHILE THEY GO.
YEAH, NOW THAT YOU'VE EXPLAINED IT, IT WOULDN'T BE LIKE A, YOU KNOW, SIX, SEVEN HOURS FOR THE TRUCK TO GET CHARGED.
THERE IS NO NEED FOR, ALTHOUGH LITTLE CATNAP, YOU KNOW, NEVER HURTS
UM, SO THE, MY FINAL QUESTION, OH, ACTUALLY BEFORE I DO ASK MY FINAL QUESTION, I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT THE SECURITY.
I, IS THERE THOUGHTS ABOUT SECURITY AROUND THE AREA, UM, NOT JUST FOR THE TRUCKS TRUCK DRIVERS AND YOU KNOW, THE TRUCKS THEMSELVES AND, BUT, UM, NOW I'M THINKING ABOUT MORE LIKE EMERGENCY SERVICES.
LIKE IF THIS IS, IF IS THERE A POTENTIAL FOR ELECTRI, UM, ELECTROCUTION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? IS THERE, WHAT'S THE PLAN THERE FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES? YEAH, NO, IT'S A, IT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
THE FIRE RISK AND THE OTHER THINGS THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP A COUPLE TIMES.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE CERTAINLY ACROSS ALL OUR SITES, SAFETY IS A PARAMOUNT CONCERN.
UM, AND WE PLAN FOR HAVING BOTH ON ONSITE ATTENDANCE, SO YOU KNOW, TWO PEOPLE FULL-TIME THAT ARE ONSITE ATTENDING THAT SITE SO THAT THERE IS SOMEONE THERE TO RESPOND.
UM, YOU KNOW, ALSO WORKING OBVIOUSLY WITH THE CITY TO MAKE SURE THERE'S PROPER FIRE MITIGATION.
UM, YOU KNOW, THESE SORT OF PROJECTS, UH, HAVE BEEN SHOWN TO BE SAFE IN THE PAST AND IT HAS BEEN SAFELY DONE IN OTHER IMPLEMENTATIONS.
UM, HAPPY TO HAVE, I DON'T KNOW, SAM OR BRANDON, ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON THE, ON THE SAFETY ASPECT THERE? I'LL JUST ADD, UM, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY SECURITY CAMERAS, LIGHTING AT NIGHT, FENCING, YOU KNOW, SECURITY GATES, UM, WILL BE THERE TO PROTECT THE SAFETY OF THE SITE AND THE PEOPLE USING THE SITE.
THERE'S ONSITE STAFF, UM, FROM A, YOU KNOW, ELECTRICAL POINT OF VIEW.
I MEAN, THIS IS ALL GONNA BE DESIGNED TO CODE.
UM, AND IN FACT WE DIDN'T, BRANDON DIDN'T MENTION THIS, UH, BUT PART OF OUR MAIN BENEFIT, UH, IS TO PROVIDE TRAINING FOR UP TO 20, UM, ELECTRICIANS TO BECOME EV INSTALLATION CERTIFIED.
SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, BOTH WE'RE BRAGGING THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY WHO CAN THEN GO ON AND TAKE THAT SKILL INTO FUTURE WORK, BUT ALSO TO DO THE WORK RIGHT FROM THE GET GO ON OUR SITE SO THAT THERE IS NO, UH, YOU KNOW,
I APPRECIATE THAT ADDITIONAL, AND I DID SEE THE BULLET POINT ABOUT THE TRAINING FOR, UH, ELECTRICIANS AND IF, UM, MAYBE RON, IF, IF YOU CAN TAKE THIS BACK TO THE PORT, YOU KNOW, IF THESE ELECTRICIANS CAN COME FROM NATIONAL CITY, THAT WOULD BE EVEN BETTER
UM, SO MY FINAL QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH THE TRAFFIC STUDY.
AND, AND I DID BROWSE THROUGH THANKS FOR INCLUDING THESE MAPS, UM, AS AN APPENDIX TO THE PRESENTATION, UM, IT'S VERY WELL THOUGHT OUT AND, AND I WONDER WHO WOULD IT FALL TO TO INCLUDE THESE, UM, IMPROVEMENTS? SO LIKE ADDING THE BARRIER FOR PEDESTRIAN CROSSING, ADD GREEN COLORED BICYCLE PAVEMENT MARKINGS.
DOES THAT, IS THAT THOSE ARE SUGGESTIONS THAT THE CITY WOULD THEN, UH, FULFILL? YEAH, I THINK WE'D LOVE THE FEEDBACK.
I'M NOT SURE HOW WE'VE WORKED WITH OTHER COMPANIES, BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, THAT MAY ADDRESS SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT HAVE COME UP.
IF, IF WE CAN SOMEHOW, YOU KNOW, CONTRIBUTE SOME OF THAT, I DUNNO HOW THAT CAN WORK.
MM-HMM,
ONE THING BEING, UM, YEAH, NORMALLY WHEN A DEVELOPER COMES IN AND MAKES A DEVELOPMENT THAT CHANGES THE TRAFFIC PATTERN, SO IT NEEDS A, A NEW STOPLIGHT
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OR SOMETHING, GUESS WHO PAYS FOR THAT STOPLIGHT AND THOSE IMPROVEMENTS BECAUSE THE, IT IS THE DEVELOPER THAT DOES IT.AND SO JUST WANNA THROW THAT OUT THERE.
UM, THE OTHER THING IS, I, LET'S MAKE SURE THAT I, I GOT, I WANNA MAKE SURE I GOT THE NUMBER RIGHT.
I THOUGHT, I HEARD DURING THE PRESENTATION THAT THIS WOULD CREATE 20 CONSTRUCTION JOBS, WHICH WOULD BE THE TEMPORARY JOBS DURING CONSTRUCTION AND THEN THREE PERMANENT JOBS.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I HAD THAT NUMBER RIGHT.
UM, THE OTHER THING BEING, UM, LIKE RIGHT NOW WHEN WE WE'RE, WE TALK ABOUT ROADS AND EVERYTHING, THERE'S DIFFERENT CLASSIFICATIONS FOR DIFFERENT TYPE VEHICLES, WHETHER IF IT IS A, YOU KNOW, SINGLE CARS, UH, WHETHER IF IT IS AN 18 WHEELER OR WHATEVER, AND THEY HAVE DESIGNATIONS, I'M GONNA TO STAFF, I'M GONNA PUT IT TO OUR, OUR OUR, UM, CITY ENGINEER.
IS THERE A DESIGNATION, I KNOW WE THINK OF 18 WHEELERS AS KIND OF THE BIG THING ON OUR STREETS.
IS THERE A DESIGNATION BEYOND THAT POINT THAT WOULD BE LIKE, FOR THESE ELECTRIC VEHICLES, WHICH I'M ASSUMING ARE GONNA BE MUCH HEAVIER? UH, THANK YOU MAYOR STEVE MANGANELLI, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS.
YEAH, I WOULD, I WOULD SAY, UH, ONE OF THE CONCERNS I SHARE, AND WE'VE HEARD IT FROM OUR MAYOR AND AND SEVERAL COUNCIL MEMBERS, IS THE IMPACTS ON THE ROADS.
YOU KNOW, AND, AND WHAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE COME OUT OF THIS IS SOME TYPE OF, NOT ONLY ONE TIME UPFRONT CAPITAL COST, BUT COST FOR ONGOING MAINTENANCE TO, UM, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY LOOK AT A, A MUCH HEAVIER STRUCTURAL SECTION FOR OUR ROADWAYS IN NATIONAL CITY.
THAT WOULD INCLUDE HARBOR DRIVE, UH, AND TIDELANDS PARTICULARLY.
'CAUSE I THINK, UM, AS MAYOR MENTIONED, UH, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, FLEET MANAGER ROUND TABLES, WE, WE'VE ATTENDED, UM, THESE ARE A LOT HEAVIER.
UM, THE, THE LIKE VEHICLES COULD LITERALLY CHANGE CLASSIFICATIONS, UM, BY GOING WITH, UH, ELECTRIC BECAUSE OF HOW LARGE THESE BATTERIES ARE.
SO ANYWAY, I, I DO THINK, UM, WE, WE'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE, AND THIS IS PROBABLY MORE DIRECTED AT THE PORT AND THEIR, THEIR STAFF, THAT PART OF THIS PROCESS RESULTS IN SOME TYPE OF FUNDING STREAM FOR NATIONAL CITY TO, UH, IMPROVE OUR STRUCTURAL ROADWAY SECTIONS SO WE CAN GET A LONGER LIFE OUT OF, UH, OUT OF THE PAVEMENT.
AND I SAY THAT'S NOT FOR US, THE CITY BE MAKING MONEY ON THIS DEAL, BUT JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE, WE'RE A WHOLE ON THE EXPENSES THAT WE'RE OUT.
AND IN THE SAME WAY, FIRE DEPARTMENT'S ANOTHER ONE BECAUSE THAT'S AN INSURANCE POLICY.
'CAUSE HOPEFULLY THERE WOULD NEVER BE AN ACCIDENT THERE, BUT IF THERE IS, WE GOTTA HAVE THE, THE, THE EQUIPMENT AND THE TRAINING IN PLACE TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO THAT.
AND, UH, SO, AND IT'S KIND OF A WHOLE NEW DYNAMICS IN WHAT'S THERE ALREADY.
UH, THE OTHER ONE, I THINK IT WAS MENTIONED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE LENGTH OF YOUR, UH, OF THIS CONTRACT, THIS AGREEMENT.
AND, UH, AND I UNDERSTAND, I THINK YOU ARE INITIALLY TALKING ABOUT 20 YEARS IS WHAT I THINK OF WHAT I HEARD.
AND I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE WE LOOK AT ALL THE, THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT'S HAPPENED IN THE LAST COUPLE DECADES ON, ON ALL THE STUFF WITH ENERGY AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
20 YEARS AGO, NO ONE HAD SOLAR PANELS UP ON THEIR ROOFS.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, SO EVERYTHING, A LOT OF THINGS ARE CHANGING.
AND WHO KNOWS, 20 YEARS FROM NOW IT MAY BE FLUX CAPACITORS AND WE MAY BE FUELING THESE THINGS WITH BANANA PEELS,
SO IT'S, UM, IT, IT, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S GONNA, IT COULD VERY WELL BE A VERY CHANGING MARKET AND, UH, THAT WE'LL HAVE TO KEEP UP WITH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS PRESENTATION? AND WE WILL HAVE OPPORTUNITY, WE ARE GOING TO HERE IN THE OTHER PRESENTATION, AND THEN IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS AFTER THAT FOR BOTH OF THEM, WE BOTH, WE CAN ASK MORE QUESTIONS.
IS THAT OKAY WITH EVERYONE? SO ARE WE GOOD HERE? WE HAVE A QUESTION FOR OUR OH, OKAY.
SORRY MAYOR, I, I DID HAVE A CLARIFYING QUESTION.
UM, IS THE PROPOSAL FOR LIKE, UH, HEAVY DUTY VEHICLES ONLY LIKE YOUR CLASS H EIGHT VEHICLES IN YOUR DRAYAGE TRUCKS? OR WILL IT ALSO PROVIDE ACCESS TO MEDIUM DUTY OR EVEN LIKE CLASS THREE VEHICLES, WHICH ARE KIND OF RIGHT ON THE BORDER OF LIGHT DUTY AND MEDIUM DUTY? I WAS WONDERING IF YOU CAN CLARIFY THAT.
UM, IT WILL PROVIDE ACCESS TO OTHER CLASSES OF VEHICLES.
WE DO SEE, YOU KNOW, THE MAJORITY OF THE TRUCK TRAFFIC THAT WILL LIKELY USE IT BEING, UM, THOSE CLASS EIGHT DRIDGE PORT SERVING VEHICLES.
BUT THERE IS A RANGE OF OTHER VEHICLES THAT DO OPERATE OBVIOUSLY IN THIS AREA.
'CAUSE THE, THE QUESTION I WOULD HAVE IS, YOU KNOW, WE ARE ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR ELECTRIFICATION PROGRAM AND
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ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WE HAVE IS WE DON'T HAVE, UH, A LOT OF CITY OWNED LAND THAT, UH, WHERE WE COULD ACTUALLY BUILD MORE CHARGERS.IN FACT, WE HAD, UH, SDG E COME OUT AND SURVEY A FEW SITES AND THROUGH THEIR POWER YOUR DRIVE PROGRAM, WE ONLY ENDED UP WITH 12 CHARGERS.
THAT'S NOT GONNA BE NEAR ENOUGH TO CONVERT OUR FLEET.
SO AGAIN, THIS MAY BE DIRECTED MORE AT THE PORT, BUT WE WOULD WANT TO SEE OPPORTUNITIES THROUGH SOME TYPE OF AGREEMENT OR MOU WHERE OUR FLEET, AS WE START TO ELECTRIFY SOME OF OUR MEDIUM AND HEAVY DUTY, HAVE ACCESS TO, UH, TO THESE CHARGERS.
LET ME JUST ONE MORE THING IF I COULD.
UM, SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A WHOLE LOT OF DIFFERENT TYPE VEHICLES, A LOT OF DIFFERENT BRANDS AND EVERYTHING ELSE, AND WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE, THE CAPACITY IS FOR A MUCH LARGER, UH, ENERGY STREAM THAN WHAT WE YOU'RE GONNA USE FOR A TESLA, SHALL WE SAY? UH, THE QUESTION IS, IS THERE A UNIVERSAL, IS THERE SOMETHING WITH ALL THESE DIFFERENT BRANDS AND ALL, SOME KIND OF UNIVERSAL ADAPTER TO MAKE ALL THESE THINGS WORK? ARE WE GONNA HAVE WHOLE BUNCH OF DIFFERENT, UH, DIFFERENT PLUGINS SO IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE AN IPHONE THAT YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT, WHAT KIND OF PLUGIN YOU'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO USE? NO.
UM, YEAH, THE INDUSTRY IS STANDARD STANDARDIZING AROUND, UM, A COUPLE DIFFERENT CHARGING POINTS AND HAVING EASILY, THOSE HAVE LIKE ONE ADAPTER THAT WOULD BE NEEDED.
FOR EXAMPLE, OBVIOUSLY TESLA AND BASICALLY EVERYTHING ELSE HAVE A DIFFERENT CHARGER, SOMETIMES
UM, SO THIS WOULD SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, A RANGE OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF VEHICLES, BOTH CLASS WISE AND MODEL WISE.
I MEAN, UH, THIS IS KIND OF AN EDUCATION PROCESS FOR US ALSO HERE.
UH, WE'RE GONNA DO THIS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE ORIGINALLY PLANNED IT BECAUSE IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE, EVERYTHING WAS SUPPOSED TO BE IN PERSON, BUT BECAUSE OF ALL THE TRAVEL PROBLEMS, EVERYTHING, SO WE, YOU ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO STAY IN THE ROOM BECAUSE WE GOT A FUNNY FEELING.
THE OTHER SIDE WAS PROBABLY WATCHING IT ONLINE ANYWAY, NO SECRETS.
YEAH, THERE'S NO SECRETS HERE.
AND, UH, UH, SO ANYWAY, AND THEN WE WILL, WE'RE GONNA HEAR THEIR PRESENTATION AND ASK QUESTIONS AND THEN AFTERWARDS WE'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR BOTH OF THEM, UH, WE CAN DO IT AT THAT POINT.
WE UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS ON SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, FIRE DEPARTMENT TRAINING, UM, THE WEIGHT LIMITS.
WE KNOW THERE'S REALLY GOOD RESOURCES OUT THERE FOR THAT.
AND WE'D LOVE, LOVE TO WORK ANY EQUIPMENT OF THE TRAINING.
BUT YEAH, THERE'S GONNA BE A DIFFERENT, WE'D LOVE TO WORK WITH YOU GUYS ON THAT, SO I APPRECIATE IT.
AND, AND THANK YOU CARLY FOR GOING FIRST.
NEXT WE HAVE SKY CHARGER AND UH, UM, BRIAN, COULD YOU GO OVER NEXT DOOR AND LOOK FOR, UM, GRAHAM RICHARDS? OH, WE HAVE SOMEONE ELSE OUT THERE.
'CAUSE WE ALSO HAVE ANDY COULD BE OTHERS.
GRAHAM WAS, UH, ON, ON, UM, SUPPOSEDLY ON ZOOM.
AND THEN, UH, SANDY, DID YOU EVER COME UP WITH AN ANSWER ON THE QUESTION I ASKED YOU EARLIER? DID YOU GET A ANSWER ON THE QUESTION I ASKED YOU EARLIER ABOUT THE, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT? YES.
UM, ALLISON ACTUALLY CALLED ME.
THEY, THEY, THEY CAN SIT, THEY CAN SIT RIGHT THERE IF THEY WANT TO.
AND IS ANY ANY ONE OF YOUR TWO GENTLEMEN, ANDY? NO.
SO ANDY'S GONNA BE ON THE ZOOM.
MAYOR, VICE MAYOR YAAY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND STAFF.
I'M GRAHAM RICHARDS WITH SKYVIEW VENTURES IN SKY CHARGER.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT OUR EUB CHARGING PROJECT IN THE NATIONAL CITY ON PORT OF SAN DIEGO PROPERTY AT 19TH AND TITLING AVENUE.
THANK OUR EUB PROJECT IS INSPIRED BY THE PORT'S AMBITIOUS CLEAN MARITIME, UH, STRATEGY GOAL OF 100% ZERO EMISSION TRUCKS BY 2030 WITH A VISION OF HEALTH EQUITY FOR ALL.
I'D LIKE TO NOTE THAT OUR PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT
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WAS BUILT ON AN EQUITY FOCUS ELECTRIC TR HUB PLAN DEVELOPED BY NATIONAL CITY'S PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR STEVE MANJE ELLO WHEN HE WAS AT STC TRAFFIC.TOGETHER WITH OUR PARTNER MOMENTUM, WE'VE BUILT OUR BUSINESS ON BEING GOOD PARTNERS IN THAT SPIRIT.
WE ARE 100% COMMITTED TO PARTNERING WITH NATIONAL CITY TO MAXIMIZE THE BENEFITS OF OUR PROJECT TO YOUR COMMUNITY.
WE'VE COMMITTED $3 MILLION OVER 20 YEARS FOR A COMMUNITY BENEFIT PROGRAM, WHICH ANITA WILL PROVIDE MORE DETAILS ON LATER IS RIGHT THERE.
OUR GOAL TODAY IS TO LEARN FROM YOU WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE MOST OUT OF A TRUCK EUB PROJECT.
WE HAVE EXPERIENCED ELECTRIFYING FLEETS AND WOULD LIKE TO ENGAGE TO SEE IF WE CAN HELP SUPPORT NATIONAL CITY AS YOU LOOK TO UNDERGO YOUR OWN FLEET TRANSITION TO ZERO EMISSION VEHICLES AS WELL.
WE WELCOME THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTNER WITH YOU TO DEVELOP THAT INFRASTRUCTURE AS WE HAVE WITH PEPSICO AND TORRANCE AND AT OVER 110 OTHER LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT CALIFORNIA AND THE UNITED STATES.
IN THE MEANTIME, WE ARE ALSO OPEN TO CONVERSATION ABOUT PROVIDING ACCESS TO EUB CHARGERS FOR THE ELECTRIC VEHICLES IN NATIONAL CITY'S FLEETS.
AND THE PUBLIC SKY CHARGER WAS FOUNDED IN 2013 AND IS OWNED BY SKYVIEW VENTURES.
IT OPERATES THE FOURTH LARGEST DC FAST CHARGING NETWORK IN CALIFORNIA.
IN ADDITION, WE WILL SOON COMPLETE A 140 PORT ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING HUB FOR PEPSICO AND TORRANCE, CALIFORNIA, WHICH WE SELF FINANCED.
SKYVIEW VENTURES HAS PARTNERED WITH COMMUNITIES OF CONCERN ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO MAKE CLEAN TRANSPORTATION AND CLEAN ENERGY PROJECTS A REALITY FOR ALL.
IN FACT, THE FIRST SOLAR PROJECT WE EVER BUILT WAS TO BENEFIT THE UNHOUSED COMMUNITY.
WE HAVE ASSEMBLED A WORLD CLASS PROJECT TEAM WITH THE RESOURCES AND CAPACITY THAT YOU CAN COUNT ON TO FINANCE, CONSTRUCT, AND OPERATE OUR EUB PROJECT.
LET ME INTRODUCE YOU TO TWO VITAL MEMBERS OF OUR PROJECT TEAM.
MATT IAN WITH OUR ENGINEERING AND CONSTRUCTION PARTNER, BURNS AND MCDONALD AND ANITA LOPEZ, PRESIDENT OF SOY LOPEZ CONSULTING, BURNS AND MAC HAS BEEN DOING WORK WITH THE PORT DISTRICT ON SUSTAINABILITY AND ELECTRIFICATION PROJECTS FOR THE PAST 11 YEARS.
SOY LOPEZ CONSULTING BASED IN SOUTHEAST SAN DIEGO AND NATIONAL CITY IS A COMMITTED HEALTH AND CLIMATE EQUITY CHAMPION.
MATT IS ALSO BASED IN SAN DIEGO AND HE'S HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
AFTER OUR PRESENTATION, WE HAVE PROPOSED AN AMBITIOUS PROJECT AT THE SCALE OF THE PORT'S AMBITIOUS ZERO EMISSION VEHICLE GOALS.
WE DESIGNED THE PROJECT TO MAXIMIZE COMMUNITY BENEFITS FROM CLEANER AIR TO LESS DIRTY TRUCK TRAFFIC IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND FINANCIAL SUPPORT FOR COUNCIL AND COMMUNITY PRIORITIES.
I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT ANOTHER UNIQUE FEATURE OF OUR PROPOSAL TRUCKING AS A SERVICE.
OUR OFFERING IS DESIGNED FOR THOSE WHO CAN LEASE AFFORD TO BE EARLY TRUCK ADOPTERS, SMALL FLEETS AND INDEPENDENT OWNER OPERATORS.
IT WILL ALSO SUPPORT EARLY DIESEL RETIREMENTS WITH THE PORT'S ZERO EMISSION TRUCK TRANSITION PLAN IDENTIFIED AS NECESSARY TO MEET THE PORT'S 2026 AND 20 30 0 EMISSION VEHICLE GOALS.
WE WILL PROVIDE AFFORDABLE AND EQUITABLE LEASES TO TRUCKERS CALLING ON THE PORT WITHOUT A PLAN TO HELP TRUCKERS OVERCOME THE UPFRONT COST BARRIER TO ACCESSING ELECTRIC VEHICLES.
RATES OF ADOPTION WILL BE SLOW AND DEMAND FOR CHARGING STATIONS WILL BE LOW.
OUR PROJECT ADDRESSES BOTH ACCESS TO ELECTRIC TRUCKS AND CHARGING STATIONS.
IT'S ABOUT ZERO EMISSION VEHICLE FOR ALL TO HELP ACHIEVE HEALTH EQUITY FOR ALL.
WITH OUR PARTNER MOMENTUM, WE INTEND TO PURSUE ALL PUBLIC FUNDING AVAILABLE TO DEEPEN OUR OFFERINGS TO TRUCKERS THE PORT AND PORT SIDE COMMUNITIES.
FOR EXAMPLE, WE RECENTLY WERE AWARDED A $10 MILLION GRANT FROM THE CALIFORNIA ENERGY COMMISSION FOR OUR TRUCKING AS A SERVICE MODEL TO BE DEPLOYED AT THE PORT OR AT AN ALTERNATE LOCATION.
AS ONE OF THE LEADING DESIGN FIRM, UH, DESIGN BUILD FIRMS IN THE COUNTRY, OUR PARTNER BURNS AND MCDONALD CAN BE COUNTED ON TO GET YOUR E HUB PROJECT DESIGNED AND BUILT ON SCHEDULE BURNS.
AND MAC HAS PROVIDED ENGINEERING CONSTRUCTION SERVICES FOR THE DEPLOYMENT OF MORE THAN 6,000 ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGERS ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
40,000 MEGAWATT HOURS OF BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE AND DESIGNS AND CONSTRUCTS SOLAR PROJECTS RANGING IN THE SIZE OF ONE MEGAWATT TO OVER 100 MEGAWATTS.
THEY'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON THE PORT WITH THE PORT TO COMPLETE THE 10TH AVENUE MARINE
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TERMINAL MICROGRID.THE EUB WILL CHARGE UP TO 87 TRUCKS WITH ADEQUATE SPACE TO ALLOW SAFE OPERATION OF THE TRUCKS TO ACCESS CHARGERS AND AMENITIES FOLLOWING A DA AND SAFE DESIGN REQUIREMENTS, INCLUDING PULL THROUGH PARKING TO ACCESS TRUCKS FOR TO ACCESS CHARGING FOR OPPORTUNITY CHARGING SESSIONS.
THE FIRST PHASE OF THE PROJECT WILL INCLUDE 46 CHARGERS, SOLAR BATTERY, SOLAR BATTERY STORAGE, AND AN AMAZON JUST WALKOUT CONVENIENCE STORE, WHICH WILL BE COMPLETED BY THE END OF 2025.
AND THE SECOND PHASE IS SCHEDULED FOR COMPLETION BY THE END OF 2026 OR 2027 BY INCLUDING A 1.7 MEGAWATT BY INCLUDING 1.7 MEGAWATTS OF SOLAR CANOPIES, FOUR MEGAWATT HOURS OF BATTERY STORAGE AND A MICROGRID CONTROLLER.
THE EUB WILL REDUCE GHG EMISSIONS, REDUCE IMPACTS ON THE S DG AND E GRID, AND INCREASED RESILIENCY OF OF THE CHARGING DEPOT BY PROVIDING THE ABILITY TO OPERATE CHARGERS INDEPENDENT OF THE GRID.
OUR APPROACH TO CONSTRUCTING THIS PROJECT WILL INCLUDE CONTRACTING WITH AT LEAST 10% OF THE WORK TO SMALL, LOCAL, AND DIVERSE BUSINESSES.
BURNS AND MAC OFFERS AN AWARD-WINNING SUPPLIER DIVERSITY PROGRAM, WHICH HAS USED TO AWARD MORE THAN 822 MILLION IN CONTRACTS TO SMALL AND DIVERSE BUSINESSES IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS.
WE ENVISION THAT THE EUB PROJECT WILL PROVIDE 50 CONSTRUCTION JOBS PROVIDING ECONOMIC BENEFITS TO NATIONAL CITY.
NOW I'LL HAND THIS OVER TO ANITA TO DISCUSS OUR PRELIMINARY COMMUNITY BENEFITS PLAN.
UM, SO MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, I'D LIKE TO EXPAND FURTHER ON, UM, CREATING ON FURTHER ON QUEST TO PRODUCE A ZERO EMISSION TRUCK STOP THAT IS BEYOND INFRASTRUCTURE.
UH, WE INTEND TO DEPLOY AN ACTION ORIENTED, I APOLOGIZE, CAN YOU BRING THE MIC CLOSER, PLEASE? I'M SORRY.
YOU KNOW,
STARTING WITH NATIONAL CITY, WE RECOGNIZE THAT A TRUE PATH TOWARDS HEALTH EQUITY IS ACTION BASED.
AND NOT ONLY DEPENDENT ON MITIGATING THE HEALTH IMPACTS, BUT ALSO INCREASING THE ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN OUR COMMUNITIES THAT ARE INCREASINGLY BURDENED WITH THESE CLIMATE DISASTERS.
WE FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT YOU CAN'T HAVE ONE WITHOUT THE OTHER.
AND FOR THIS REASON, SKY CHARGER HAS SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASED THEIR COMMUNITY BENEFITS PLAN TO COMMIT 3 MILLION OVER A 20 YEAR SPAN, AS GRAHAM JUST MENTIONED.
AND OUR INITIAL THINKING FOR THIS INVESTMENT IS TO PRIORITIZE THE EDUCATION AND TRAINING PATHWAYS FOR NATIONAL CITY AND OTHER PORTSIDE COMMUNITIES.
THESE EFFORTS WILL INCREASE LOCAL COMMUNITY PARTICIPATION IN APPRENTICESHIP AND OTHER WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES.
OUR STRATEGY IS TO DISTRIBUTE SCHOLARSHIPS AND PAID TRAINING CERTIFICATIONS FOR EXISTING JOURNEYMEN AND ENTRY LEVEL ELECTRICIANS THAT WILL BE NEEDED TO SERVICE THE AND MAINTAIN THE GROWING EV CHARGING STATION, UM, WITHIN THE REGION.
OVER THE NEXT DECADE, UH, WE WILL LEVERAGE CONNECTIONS WITH LOCAL IBEW CONTACTS AND OTHER HIGH ROAD JOB APPRENTICESHIPS.
UM, WE WILL ALSO REACH OUT TO THE LOCAL COMMUNITY COLLEGES, HIGH SCHOOLS, UM, COLLEGES SUCH AS SOUTHWESTERN COLLEGE, THE EDUCATIONAL CULTURAL COMPLEX IN OCEANVIEW AND THE SAN DIEGO COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT.
OUR TRUCKING AS A SERVICE INCREASES OPPORTUNITIES FOR LOCAL TRUCKERS AND REVOLVES AND RESOLVES INEQUITIES IN THE FINANCING OF COMMERCIAL VEHICLES.
UM, BY REMOVING LONGSTANDING FINANCIAL AND INSTITUTIONAL BARRIERS, UH, WE INTEND TO SIMPLIFY, SIMPLIFY AND STREAMLINE LEASE CRITERIA AND THE TERMS FOR LOCAL AND AND TRUCKERS.
UM, THIS WOULD ALSO INCLUDE ANY FINANCIAL LITERACY THAT IS NEEDED FOR TRUCKERS TO BE ABLE TO REALLY UNDERSTAND, UH, WHAT THEY'RE SIGNING AND BE SURE THAT, THAT THIS IS A COMMITMENT THAT THEY WOULD REALLY WANT TO, UM, ENDURE.
AND THAT'S, THAT WILL SUPPORT THE LEASEES SUCCESSFULLY MEETING THEIR FINANCIAL OBLIGATIONS AND HELPING TO BUILD FINANCIAL SECURITY IN THE LONG RUN.
WE HAVE CENTERED EQUITY INTO THEIR COMMUNITY BENEFIT PLAN TO INCLUDE LOCAL PARTNER ENGAGEMENT CONTINUOUSLY, NOT JUST, UM, FOR THE PRESENTATION, BUT CONTINUOUSLY TO HELP US DESIGN, HELP US IMPLEMENT, UM, AND PLAN FOR FUTURE FOR FUTURE USES OF A REVOLVING FUND.
WE DO THIS AS A MEAN TO WORK WITH COMMUNITY AND COLLABORATE WITH OUR LOCAL CBOS WHO ARE DRIVING A LOT OF THE GROUND LEVEL WORK, UM, AROUND COMMUN CLIMATE RESILIENCY.
AND THIS INCLUDES, UH, SUPPORT FROM PARTNERS SUCH AS ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH COALITION, MUNDO GARDENS URBAN COLLABORATIVE PROJECT, CLIMATE ACTION CAMPAIGN, THE SAN
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DIEGO URBAN SUSTAINABILITY COALITION.I AM GREEN AND GYRO PROVIDERS, ALL OF WHICH HAVE THE PROFESSIONAL AND LIVED EXPERIENCE, UM, TO REACH THE COMMUNITY, UH, THAT THESE BENEFITS ARE INTENDED TO SERVE.
WE ARE INVESTED IN LEVERAGING OUR LOCAL ORGANIZATION'S ABILITY TO LEAD OUR LOCAL CLIMATE LITERACY EFFORTS AND THE MOVEMENT, UM, THROUGH ONGOING OUTREACH, EDUCATION AND PLANNING, WE HAVE INTEGRATED A REVOLVING FUND TO BE USED FOR RE-GRANTING AND UPLIFTING LOCAL NONPROFITS, RESIDENT LED PROJECTS, STUDENT PROJECTS, AND RESIDENT LEADERSHIP ACADEMY PROJECTS.
UH, WE WOULD BE REMISS IF WE DON'T ADDRESS THE DEVASTATION THAT WE'VE RECENTLY EXPERIENCED WITH THIS MONTH'S STORMS. SO MANY FAMILIES IN NATIONAL CITY AND THE SURROUNDING AREAS HAVE REALLY BEEN IMPACTED, UH, BY THE CHANGING CLIMATE.
AND THEY'RE FACING DISPLACEMENT, UH, LOSS OF LIVELIHOOD.
SO THE ECONOMIC IMPACTS WILL FOLLOW THEM LONG BEYOND THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS WHILE THEY'RE HOUSED.
IT'S GONNA FOLLOW THEM FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
AND OUR INVESTMENTS ARE FLEXIBLE AND PERHAPS AN ALLOCATION COULD BE SET ASIDE TO ASSIST WITH COMMUNITY RECOVERY EFFORTS, UM, AND OFFER FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE TO THE NEARLY 700 FAMILIES AND SMALL BUSINESSES THAT HAVE BEEN AFFECTED REGIONALLY.
UM, AND THIS COULD POSSIBLY HAPPEN OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS AGAIN.
AND SO THAT FUND COULD THEN, UM, BE RESURFACED, UM, AS NEEDED AND REPURPOSED.
UM, WITH THE GUIDANCE OF OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS, OUR COMMUNITY BENEFIT PLAN PRIORITIZES INVESTMENTS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT WE ARE INTENDING, UH, TO HAVE OUR PROJECT, WHICH IS NATIONAL CITY.
AND WHAT WE REALLY WOULD LOVE TODAY IS TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK ON SOME OF THESE IDEAS THAT PERHAPS WOULD BE, WOULD BE HELPFUL TO KIND OF ADVANCE, UM, SOME OF THIS CLIMATE CENTERED WORK.
UH, SOME OF THESE MIGHT INCLUDE AN ANNUAL CONTRIBUTION TO THE FRANK MICRO TRANSIT SYSTEM.
THIS WOULD HELP PROVIDE MORE SHUTTLING FROM THE EUB TO NATIONAL CITY MOTELS, RESTAURANTS, AND STORES A CONTRIBUTION, UH, TOWARD A TRAFFIC STUDY OF ELECTRIC TRUCK VEHICLE IMPACTS, OR ACCESS TO EUB CHARGES FOR NATIONAL CITY'S INCOMING ELECTRIC FLEET VEHICLES, OR PERHAPS SUPPORT AND INCLUSION OF SMALL BUSINESSES IN THEIR TRANSITION TOWARDS SUSTAINABILITY.
UM, WE ARE COMMITTED TO BRINGING ADDITIONAL DOLLARS INTO THE REGION AS, UH, GRAHAM NOTED AND WELCOME THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTNER WITH THE CITY TO DEVELOP ANY TRANSITION PLANNING THAT YOU MAY HAVE THROUGH THE USE OF TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE AND GRANT SUPPORT, UM, SO THAT YOU CAN SEE YOUR PROJECTS FROM PLANNING, UM, THROUGH FRUITION.
AND THESE ARE JUST A SELECTED FEW IDEAS THAT WE CAN USE WITH A REVOLVING FUND AND WITH SOME INPUT FROM OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS, SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND THE BOARD.
UM, AND I WILL NOW INVITE GRAHAM BACK TO CLOSE OUT OUR PRESENTATION.
THIS PROJECT WILL BE ONE OF THE FIRST OF ITS KIND.
OUR TEAM IS ALIGNED WITH THE PORT'S VISION OF 100% ZERO ZERO EMISSION VEHICLES BY 2030 WITH HEALTH EQUITY FOR ALL.
AND WE ARE COMMITTED TO A LONG-TERM PARTNERSHIP WITH THE PORT AND NATIONAL CITY.
OUR TEAM IS PROVEN, CAPABLE, AND READY TO EXECUTE ON THAT VISION IN A WAY THAT IS EQUITABLE TO THE PORT AND NATIONAL CITY, OTHER POOR SEC COMMUNITIES AND TRUCKERS CALLING ON THE COURT.
WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION AND WE WELCOME ANY QUESTIONS.
UH, A FEW OF, ONE THING, IF I CAN START THINGS OFF, YOU, YOU'VE GOT IT HERE THAT YOU'VE GOT, UH, 700 CHARGING STATIONS.
AND IF I ME, YOU SAID YOU HAD 110 LOCATIONS? YEAH.
HOW MANY OF THESE LOCATIONS ARE LARGE TRUCK CHARGING STATIONS? LIKE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE? CURRENTLY? I THINK, UH, CURRENTLY WE'RE UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND FINISHING CONSTRUCTION ON ONE.
THAT WOULD BE THE, THE PEPSICO FACILITY IN WEST CALIFORNIA.
I MEAN, WE'RE KIND OF IN THE FIRST INNING OR MAYBE THE SECOND INNING OKAY.
NO, THERE NOT, THERE'S NOT, YOU KNOW, I I I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE COMPARING APPLES TO APPLES HERE ON THIS, ON THIS DEAL.
UH, SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S ONE THING.
UH, WE DO HAVE 60 SITES WITH DC FAST CHARGERS.
NONE, FIVE LONG, 10, ET CETERA.
BUT THOSE ARE PRIMARILY FOCUSED ON, ON LIGHT DUTY VEHICLES, NOT, NOT HEAVY DUTY.
NOW, UH, THE OTHER THING IS YOU SAID THAT PHASE ONE WOULD BE COMPLETED BY THE END OF 2025.
YOU DO REALIZE THAT'S NEXT YEAR? YEAH.
THAT'S PRETTY, PRETTY AGGRESSIVE.
AND I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, I USE THE SAME PHRASE WITH THE OTHER GROUP HERE.
DON'T MEAN A PUN ON THE, UH, FORD PICKUP, BUT THAT'S LIGHTNING SPEED AND, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH GOVERNMENT,
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UM, AND PROCUREMENT RIGHT NOW IS THE OTHER BIG PROBLEM.YOU DID MENTION THAT IT WAS YEAH.
SO TO, TO TOUCH ON THAT JUST BRIEFLY.
ON THE PROCUREMENT SIDE, UM, WE DON'T SEE THAT AS AN ISSUE.
WE'RE UNDER CONSTRUCTION ON LARGE PROJECTS.
WE'RE NOT CONCERNED ABOUT EQUIPMENT LEAD TIME.
IT'S MORE SO THE UTILITY INTERCONNECTION TIMELINE THAT'S, AND THEN THE PERMITTING TIMELINE.
THOSE ARE THE FACTORS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF OUR CONTROL.
UM, AND THEN YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE WAS, UH, I THINK YOU SAID 50 CONSTRUCTION JOBS WOULD BE INVOLVED IN THIS? YES.
I, I MEAN, IT'S SIZABLE PRODUCT.
AND THEN HOW MANY ACTUAL JOBS AFTER CONSTRUCTION IS DONE.
THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN GET BACK TO YOU ON.
DON'T HAVE A FIGURE FOR YOU OFF, OFF THE, BUT HAPPY TO FOLLOW UP ON ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AS WELL.
JUST WANNA TRY TO BRING UP AS MANY OF THESE THINGS AS WE CAN TO DEAL WITH THEM.
UM, THE, UH, OTHER ONE WAS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE BENEFIT PACKAGE AND THINGS ALONG THIS LINE.
UM, AND I HEARD SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU SAID, AND I, I SEE YOUR PRESENTATION HERE AND I SEE LIKE FOUR PICTURES.
ONE OF IT'S A GENERAL PICTURE, I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT'S AT.
THE OTHER PICTURES ARE IN THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO.
AND YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE DIFFERENT THINGS ON IT AND IT, CITY OF SAN DIEGO WILL GET BENEFITS OUT.
THEY'RE GONNA GET CLEANER AIR.
UH, WE'RE GONNA TAKE ALL THE IMPACTS.
SO WHEN I HEAR YOU TALK ABOUT YOU'RE GONNA DEAL WITH LIKE COLLEGE DISTRICT AND YOU MENTIONED SAN DIEGO COMMUNITY COLLEGE, WE'RE SOUTHWESTERN COLLEGE HERE.
SO I JUST WANT TO BRING THIS STUFF UP, IS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE THE ONE THAT'S GONNA TAKE THE IMPACTS.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, SO WHEN I STARTED SAYING, WELL, WE'RE GONNA DEAL WITH ALL THESE SAN DIEGO ORGANIZATIONS, UH, AND I DON'T MEAN TO BE TERRITORIAL, BUT YOU, I'M GONNA BE TERRITORIAL, UH, YOU KNOW, TERRITORIAL.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DON'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY, ALL THE OTHER CITIES TAKING THE BENEFITS, NONE OF THEM ARE STEPPING UP TO THE PLATE AND SAYING, HEY, WE WANT THIS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, EVERYONE WANTS THE ELECTRIFICATION, BUT NOT IN MY BACKYARD.
UM, AND, UM, SO GOTTA BE CAREFUL ON, ON SOME OF THAT, THAT, THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT IF WE'RE GONNA BE HAVING BENEFITS GOTTA BE HERE.
NOW ANOTHER THING IS, YOU MENTIONED A LOT OF THINGS THAT WOULD GO INTO IT.
AT THE SAME TIME, I'M LOOKING AT COST TO THE CITY AND THERE'S GONNA BE COST.
UH, THE ROADS ARE GONNA BE HEAVILY IMPACTED.
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE MUCH MORE TRUCKS, MUCH HEAVIER TRUCKS ON THE ROADS, THE FIRE, HUH? YEAH.
AND THEN, AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS THE, THE PUBLIC SAFETY SITUATION.
ESPECIALLY HAVING ALL OF THESE LITHIUM VEHICLES THERE, UH, AND THE POTENTIAL, WE HOPE NOTHING EVER WOULD HAPPEN, BUT WE HAVE TO PREPARE FOR THE POTENTIAL, WHICH MEANS NOT ONLY TRAINING, BUT EXTRA EQUIPMENT, OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, EVERYTHING ELSE IN CASE THERE'S, THERE'S GONNA BE A COST TO ALL OF THAT AND NOTHING AGAINST NONPROFITS, BUT THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE BEARING ANY OF THAT.
YOU KNOW, THE CITY BEARS IT AND YET THE MONEY FROM THIS GOES TO THE PORT, AND YET WE'RE GONNA BE BEARING THIS ADDITIONAL COST.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, AND AS I'VE MENTIONED BEFORE, I KNOW LIKE IN THE, AND I USE THE ANALOGY OF THE TRASH BUSINESS, WHEN THEY EVER CITE A TRANSFER STATION IN A CITY AND THEY'RE BRINGING IN A LOT OF TRUCKS AND ALL THIS STUFF THAT GOES WITH IT, THERE IS WHAT THEY CALL A TIPPING FEE SO MUCH ON SOME MEASURABLE QUANTITY IN THEIR CASES PER TONNAGE.
UH, BUT THERE NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING THAT MAKES THE CITY WHOLE SO THAT WE ARE NOT EXPEND MONEY AND TAKING AWAY FROM OUR CITIZENS FROM PROGRAMS FOR THEM SO THAT WE CAN FRONT THIS PROGRAM AND JUST KEEP OURSELF WHOLE ON IT.
UM, SO AS MUCH AS ALL THESE OTHER, YOU KNOW, BENEFIT PACKAGES SOUNDS REALLY NICE.
UH, YOU KNOW, IT, IT SHOULDN'T BE AT THE EXPENSE OF, YOU KNOW, THE CITY.
I'M NOT LOOKING FOR US TO MAKE MONEY OFF OF THIS.
THE PORTS WANTED TO BE THE ONE TO MAKE MONEY, UH, BUT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO BE MADE WHOLE TOO.
I GREW UP HERE, I LIVE, UM, I SPEND MOST OF MY TAX DOLLARS IN NATIONAL CITY.
SO WHEN WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THIS, THIS EQUITY ISSUE, WE'RE THINKING ABOUT IT AS A HOLISTIC APPROACH TO THE REGION.
RIGHT? AND SO I THINK THE REAL BENEFIT HERE IS THE COMMITMENT TO THE FLEXIBILITY, RIGHT? BUT UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE ARE FINITE.
AND SO I THINK THE ADVANTAGE IS TO REALLY THINK ABOUT HOW DO WE LEVERAGE THE FUNDS TO INCREASE THE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE GRANT OPPORTUNITIES FOR SUCH A SMALL, FOR A SMALL CITY SO THAT THE, THOSE IMPACTS CAN BE MITIGATED EARLY ON AND, AND THE BENE AND THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS CAN STILL HAPPEN.
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EVEN THOUGH WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE MORE JOBS AT THIS JOB SITE, THE REALITY IS IS THAT THEY MAY, THEY, IT'S GONNA BE VERY LIMITED.THEY HAVE TO LEAVE THE AREA, RIGHT.
BUT IF THEY'RE SKILLED AND THEY HAVE THE SKILLS, THEN THEY CAN GO ANYWHERE AND COME BACK HOME TO NATIONAL CITY AND BE LIVING IN A VERY WELL ECONOMICALLY SITUATED FAMILY.
AND THAT'S REALLY THE GOAL WITH SOME OF THE JOB TRAINING AND WHY THERE'S A LARGER PERCENTAGE GOING TOWARDS JOB TRAINING.
WE ARE NOT AS A REGION PREPARED TO, UM, TRANSITION A LOT OF OUR WORKERS, MY PARTNER WORKS AT THE, AT, UM, THE PORT AND I THINK ABOUT ALL THE WORK THAT HE'S NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO DO IF THEY DON'T, IF WE DON'T START, UM, CHANGING HOW WE TRAIN THEM, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
AND SO THE JOB TRAINING BECOMES REALLY IMPORTANT FOR THE COMMUNITIES THAT I LIVE WITH THAT ARE MY FRIENDS AND FAMILY.
AND THAT IS REALLY WHAT'S INFORMING SOME OF THE EQUITY MEASURES.
I UNDERSTAND AND I AGREE WITH YOU A HUNDRED PERCENT.
AND, AND YOU KNOW, AND WE ARE GONNA HAVE REGIONAL BENEFITS, RIGHT? AND WE'RE GONNA, BUT AT THE SAME TIME MM-HMM.
AND SO THEREFORE, YOU KNOW, THE JOB TRAINING IS GREAT AS LONG AS THE JOB TRAINING, I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, IS FOR NATIONAL CITY PEOPLE.
IF THEY BRING, YOU KNOW, AND, AND, AND I WAS, I WAS BORN AND RAISED RIGHT OUTSIDE THERE IN SHELL TOWN.
SO, UM, SO WE WANNA START HERE.
PEOPLE, MY PARENTS MOVED OVER HERE, THAT'S GOT NOTHING AGAINST THAT AREA, BUT THAT'S NOT GONNA PAY THE BILLS HERE, WHICH IS GONNA KEEP YEAH.
KEEP US FROM HAVING TO DIVERT MONEY FROM OTHER THINGS FOR OUR RESIDENTS ABSOLUTELY.
TO IMPACT SO THAT EVERYONE ELSE HAS BENEFITS.
UM, ONE OTHER THING, THIS IS, NOW THIS YOUR SITE IS DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHER PROPOSAL, IS IT NOT? I IBEL I HAVEN'T SEEN HUH? THEIR, I HAVEN'T SEEN THEIR UPDATED SCAN.
UH, BUT I, WELL, I BELIEVE WHEN I SAW THE PRESENTATION BEFORE THE PORT, YOU GUYS WERE LOOKING AT TWO DIFFERENT SITES.
WE'RE LOOKING AT THE NORTHERN MOST OF THOSE THREE.
IT'D BEEN NICE AS FAR AS COUNCIL LOOKING AT LOOKING NORTHERN MOST PARTS YEAH.
THAT WE WOULD'VE HAD, WE WOULD'VE HAD THAT.
SO YOU CAN SEE KIND OF WHERE IT WAS DONE.
UH, ANOTHER THING IS ON THE TRAFFIC ITSELF, UH, WHICH YOU, YOU DON'T, UH, HAVE, YOU KNOW, MUCH SET IN HERE.
THERE'S A COUPLE DIFFERENT ROUTES OF TRAFFIC CAN GO FROM THAT AREA AND TO GET TO THE FREEWAY AND TO DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT AREAS, ESPECIALLY WITH 10TH AVENUE TERMINAL, IT'S EITHER TIDELANDS AVENUE AND GO UP TO EITHER CIVIC CENTER OR TO, UH, HARBOR DRIVE THERE, UH, YOU KNOW, OR TO GO AND I'M GONNA STILL CALL IT 24TH STREET, I'M SORRY IT GOES BY ALL THESE OTHER NAMES.
BUT 24TH STREET TO THE FREEWAY, AND IN MY OPINION, WE HAVE TO KEEP IT OFF OF 24TH STREET.
UM, IT'S ALREADY SO IMPACTED WITH THE TRUCK TRAFFIC COMING OFF THE TERMINAL THAT IT JAMS UP EVERYTHING DOWN THERE AT THAT INTERSECTION.
AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GETTING READY TO PUT IN HOTELS.
WE'RE GETTING READY TO GO BEFORE COASTAL COMMISSION TO PUT IN HOTELS AT THAT SITE, WHICH IS GONNA HAVE MORE IMPACT, BUT IT'S NOT OF A TRUCK TYPE IMPACT.
SO I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT WE NEED TO TAKE A SERIOUS LOOK AT AS FAR AS WHAT ROUTES ARE BEING USED.
AND UH, UM, AND AT THE SAME WAY, THERE'S PROBABLY GONNA HAVE TO BE SOME, UH, SOME IMPROVEMENTS ON T TIDES IS THE WIDEST STREET WE HAVE IN AN ENTIRE CITY, AND IT'S ONLY ONE, ONE LANE IN EACH DIRECTION, AND IT'S WIDER THAN OUR FOUR FOUR LANE STREETS.
SO THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM THERE, BUT THERE ARE GONNA HAVE TO BE SOME IMPROVEMENTS MADE IF WITH THE, WITH THE ADDITIONAL TRUCK TRAFFICKING, THOSE ARE ALL ALL GONNA BE COST.
I, I THINK WHEN WE SELECTED, WHEN WE, WHEN WE SELECTED THAT SITE, WHEN WE SELECTED THAT PARCEL, WE NOT ONLY THOUGHT IT WAS MORE OF AN IDEAL PARCEL JUST FOR TRUCK TRAFFIC TO MOVE ON, UM, LOCALLY, YOU KNOW, ON, ON THE ACTUAL TRUCK DEPOT, UH, CHARGING HUB, BUT ALSO IT WAS KIND OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, COME DOWN, THAILANDS TAKE A RIGHT PULL THROUGH CHARGE AND THEN COME OUT AND TAKE A LEFT UP ON THAILANDS.
DO YOU HAVE KIND OF TRAFFIC FLOW? TY S YEAH.
SO THAT, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE ENVISIONED WHEN WE DESIGNED THE SITE AND YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF MATT HAS ANYTHING MORE TO SAY ON THAT, BUT, UM OKAY.
I MEAN, IT, IT WAS A COMBINATION OF THE LOCATION HAVING MORE SPACE FOR EXPANSION.
UM, AND THEN ALSO WHEN WE LOOKED AT HOW WE WANTED TO POSITION THE, UH, FOR OPPORTUNITY CHARGERS WHERE TRUCKS MAY PULL IN WITH THEIR TRAILERS, BE ABLE TO HAVE PULL THROUGH CHARGING SO THAT WAY NO ONE'S BACKING IN BACKING OUT.
YOU DON'T WANT THAT A SAFETY ISSUE OF COURSE.
RATHER THAN, BECAUSE WE CAN'T ASSUME THAT EVERY SINGLE TRUCK IS GONNA BE ABLE TO GET RID OF THEIR TRAILER, PULL IN AND THEN, UM, CHARGE THEN GET BACK OUT, PULL OUT.
SO IT'S JUST LIKE WHAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT IS YOU ALREADY HAVE LOTS OF TRUCKS MOVING THROUGH YOUR COMMUNITY.
AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, SO THE, THE THOUGHT
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ALSO IS THAT THIS MAY NOT BE ACTUALLY INCREASING TRAFFIC BECAUSE THERE'S ALREADY A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF GOODS MOVEMENT GOING ON IN THE PORT.WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS JUST TRANSITION THE TRUCKS THAT WERE GOING THROUGH THE PORT, UM, WHICH ARE DIESEL TO BE BATTERY ELECTRIC, SO THAT WAY IT IMPROVES THE AIR QUALITY OF COURSE.
LIKE YOU MENTIONED WITH HEAVIER TRUCKS GO, COME ROADWAY IMPACTS.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED.
WELL, PLUS IF I COULD, ANOTHER THING BEING A LOT, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 24TH STREET TERMINAL, BUT 10TH AVENUE TERMINAL IS GONNA HAVE TO BRING ALL THEIRS DOWN HERE TOO.
A LOT OF THOSE DON'T COME DOWN HERE, BUT THEY'LL HAVE TO COME DOWN HERE FOR CHARGING.
AND SO THAT IS GONNA BE AN INCREASE.
AND THAT NEEDS TO BE, AND THEN THERE'S, AND THIS IS NOT DIRECTLY RELATED TO YOU, BUT WE HAVE ANOTHER PROJECT CUP GETTING READY TO COME BEFORE US.
THERE'S BIO, UH, UH, FUEL STATION THERE, WHICH WILL BE MORE TRUCK TRAFFIC INTO THAT EXACT SAME AREA.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT ALL OF THAT.
SO WE DO NOT BECOME THE, THE TRUCKING CAPITAL OF SAN DIEGO COUNTY AND, UH, MAKING SURE THAT EVERYBODY ELSE GETS THEIR STUFF DELIVERED TO WALMART OR WHATEVER.
WE'VE ALSO ENGAGED WITH OTHER, YOU KNOW, MAJOR TENANTS OF THE PORT, UM, OPERATING IN AND OUT OF, YOU KNOW, OF 10TH AVENUE MARINE TERMINAL AND PROVIDING, CHARGING FOR THEM LOCALLY UP THERE AS WELL.
SO THOSE ARE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAVE HAD.
UM, 'CAUSE IT PROBABLY MAKES SENSE TO KEEP IT UP THERE.
IT WOULD BE, BUT
SO WE THOUGHT THAT WAS DOLE TOO, BUT THEY BROUGHT ALL THEIR TRUCKS DOWN HERE TO TAKE 'EM RIGHT BACK UP NORTH ALSO, SO, SO WE'RE YEAH.
WE, WE'VE BEEN DOWN THAT ROUTE WITH THEM.
WE'RE, WE'RE ALSO AWARE, YOU KNOW, 2026 IS UPON US AND, AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, MM-HMM.
UM, AND, AND THE POOR HAS TO GO THROUGH THEIR DECISION MAKING PROCESS, SO, OKAY.
UM, THERE ARE TENANTS WHO WANT TO OKAY.
I THINK I THREW OUT A WHOLE BUNCH OF 'EM THERE, BUT NOW GO TO THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, UH, MEMBER MOLINA.
UH, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
UM, YEAH, IT, IT WOULD'VE BEEN GOOD TO HAVE TO SEE A TIMELINE AND, AND SEE A, UM, THE LOCATION OF THE PARCEL THAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING.
I THINK MAYBE IF YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO UPDATE YOUR PRESENTATION AND MAYBE INCLUDE THOSE DETAILS IN THERE, IT WAS VERY HELPFUL FOR IN THE OTHER PRESENTATION.
UM, SO I WAS GONNA ASK ABOUT THE PARCEL LOCATION, BUT NOT HAVING A DIAGRAM IN FRONT OF ME.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT, BUT, UH, I MEAN I DID MEN, I DID, I DID HEAR YOU MENTION A DIFFERENT PARCEL FROM THE ONE THAT WE JUST SAW IN THE OTHER DIAGRAM.
IT'S, IT'S, UH, 19TH AND ENSS.
IT'S JUST BELOW THE, THE PORT BUILDING ON TIDELANDS THERE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE NAME OF THAT BUILDING? THE YEAH, NO, YOU'RE FINE.
THE, IS IT LOCATED TO THE SOUTH OF THE PORT? UH, OH, UM, MAINTENANCE YARD BUILDING.
IT'S, IT'S THAT LARGER PARCEL DIRECTLY BELOW.
IS THAT, IS THAT NEAR, UH, CIVIC CENTER DRIVE? NO, IT'S BETWEEN CIVIC CENTER AND 19TH.
UH, SO YEAH, AND THEN ALSO IT WOULD BE GOOD TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU'RE ENVISIONING AS FAR AS THE, THE DRIVING ROUTES THAT THE TRUCKS WOULD BE TAKING.
UM, SO YEAH, HAVING A PICTURE WOULD BE BETTER.
UH, BUT I, I ACTUALLY WANTED TO ASK ABOUT YOUR RELATIONSHIPS IN THE PAST, RIGHT.
PERHAPS THIS IS FOR YOUR DESIGN FIRM FOR BURNS AND MCDONALD, YOUR RELATIONSHIPS IN THE PAST WITH SDG AND E HAS THAT, YOU'VE WORKED WITH THEM BEFORE, I ASSUME, AND MANY OF THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT YOU'RE INVOLVED IN? UH, YES.
I'M STILL WITH BURNS MCDONALD.
WE ARE THE NUMBER ONE ENGINEERING COMPANY IN, IN THE COUNTRY FOR POWER.
AND, UM, WE ACTUALLY WORK WITH CLIENTS THAT INTERFACE WITH SDG E AND THEN SDG E IS ALSO ONE OF OUR CLIENTS.
SO, UM, WE HELP THEM BUILD THE, UM, SUNRISE POWER LINK, UM, TRANSMISSION LINES, SOME OF THE SUBSTATIONS, QUITE A BIT OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND SO WE KNOW WE HAVE FOLKS ON STAFF THAT DO A LOT OF DISTRIBUTION PLANNING, UM, WITH THE UTILITY.
AND WHAT THAT HELPS WITH IS BEING ABLE TO INTERFACE WITH THEM AND HELP AND BASICALLY PROVIDE CREDIBILITY IN TERMS OF LIKE HOW WE'RE FORECASTING THE DIFFERENT ENERGY LOADS THAT ARE COMING ONLINE, IF THAT HELPS YOU.
AND IN YOUR PAST, UM, WORK WITH SDG E, YOU'VE, UM, I, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, IS SDG E PREPARED FOR WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR THEM TO DO? UM, DO YOU HAVE A LOT OF CONFIDENCE THERE? WELL, I, I THINK, UM, WELL, SDG E CERTAINLY HAS A VESTED INTEREST IN SEEING ELECTRIFICATION COME TO FRUITION, RIGHT? I MEAN, THAT'S A, A MAJOR REVENUE SOURCE FOR THEM FOR THE FUTURE.
AND SO WHAT WE KNOW RIGHT NOW IN TERMS OF THE AVAILABLE POWER CAPACITY, UM, IS THAT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A BIT LESS THAN FIVE MEGAWATTS, UM, COMING INTO THAT SITE.
SO THAT'S A, YOU KNOW, THAT'S AN ISSUE.
SO AS, AS BUILD OUT WILL OCCUR THROUGH, THROUGH TIME, THERE WILL BE UPGRADES FOR, TO SUPPORT FUTURE ELECTRIFICATION AND,
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AND THAT THOSE CONVERSATIONS BASICALLY WILL START, YOU KNOW, IN ANY SUBSEQUENT PHASES.AND I WOULDN'T TELL YOU ANY DIFFERENTLY.
UH, I APPRECIATE THAT INSIGHT.
UM, SO JUST A FEW MORE QUESTIONS.
UM, I KNOW THAT THE, UM, ECONOMIC BEN OR THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT, RIGHT, THE ECONOMIC BENEFIT, NO COMMUNITY BENEFIT PACKAGE, THAT WAS PART OF THE RFP, RIGHT? THAT WAS ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS IN THE RFP.
AND I DO APPRECIATE, UM, UH, MS. ANITA LOPEZ, THANK YOU FOR YOUR INSIGHT AND I ABSOLUTELY APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU'RE FROM THIS AREA.
YOU UNDERSTAND, UH, THE AREA, UM, I WANTED TO ASK IS SKY CHARGER, DO YOU TYPICALLY PROPOSE, YOU KNOW, YOUR, YOUR OTHER PROJECTS, DO YOU PROPOSE COMMUNITY BENEFITS? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE SEEING MORE AND MORE AS PART OF THE PROJECTS THAT YOU DO? OR IS THIS UNIQUE TO THIS? I THINK THIS SPECIFIC PROJECT, UM, IS, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS COMMUNITY BENEFIT PACKAGE IS SPECIFIC TO THIS PROJECT IN, IN THE SIZE OF IT, IT'S, YOU KNOW, MM-HMM.
I MEAN, WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN FOCUSED IN, IN, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITIES OF CONCERN.
WE, WE DO PUT SOLAR ON A LOT OF LMI AND, AND DO OTHER PROJECTS THAT BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY AND, AND DONATE TO THE COMMUNITY, BUT NOT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A BESPOKE PACKAGE FOR THIS PROJECT.
UH, WELL, I THINK YOU DID IT, BRAD.
I, I THINK PARTNERING WITH A LOCAL, UH, UM, STRATEGY TEAM, UH, IS THE RIGHT WAY TO GO ABOUT PROPOSING A COMMUNITY PACKAGE OR A COMMUNITY BENEFIT.
UM, AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION, I THINK WOULD BE MORE TOWARDS, UM, OUR COMMISSIONER AND MR. POWELL.
UH, THE ECONOMIC BENEFIT OF THIS TO NATIONAL CITY, UM, I IS, IS LIKE, IS THE PLAN THAT NATIONAL CITY WOULD RECEIVE A PERCENTAGE PERHAPS, OF, UM, THE SALES FROM THE ELECTRIC CHARGING STATION? OR IS IT MORE TOWARDS INCREASING ON THE MYTH, THE MARITIME INDUSTRIAL IMPACT FUND TO HELP COVER, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE COST FOR PREPARING IN CASE OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT DOES NEED TO GO ON THERE AND PUT OUT FIRES.
UH, WHAT, WHAT IS IT THAT NATIONAL CITY WILL BE GAINING FROM THIS IN TERMS OF AN ECONOMIC BENEFIT? FOR THE RECORD, SANDY AHO, PORT COMMISSIONER REPRESENTING NATIONAL CITY FOR THE PORT OF SAN DIEGO.
SO TO ANSWER QUESTION NUMBER ONE, WHERE THE MONEY GOES, IT WOULD ENTIRELY GO TO THE PORT DISTRICT.
SO TO REITERATE, UM, MAYOR MORRISON'S POINT, THE PORT WILL GET THE REVENUE IN THE CITY WILL INCUR THE EXPENSES.
AND SO TO REFERENCE MY COMMENTS I MADE ON THE DAAS BACK ON NOVEMBER, 2023, I HAD SUGGESTED ABOUT LOOKING, UH, FOR A FUND, VERY SIMILAR TO THE MARITIME INDUSTRIAL IMPACT FUND, WHERE WE COULD PUT MONEY TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES.
BECAUSE THE PROBLEMS WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST IS THAT YOU CANNOT HAVE, YOU CANNOT DO THIS BECAUSE IT'S A GIFT OF PUBLIC FUND.
AND SO I THINK THAT THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY A GIFT OF PUBLIC FUND.
THIS IS A REGIONAL EFFORT AND COMMITMENT, AND WE DO HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THAT THERE ARE GOING TO BE IMPACTS, UM, POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE IMPACTS, AND HOW DO WE ADDRESS THEM AND MOVE FORWARD.
AND SO, UM, WHAT STAFF HAVE MENTIONED TO ME IS THAT, UH, THIS PROJECT IS APPLICABLE TO THE MARITIME INDUSTRIAL IMPACT FUND.
BUT AS YOU ALL ARE AWARE, WE BARELY RAISED IT FROM HALF OF 1% TO 2% LAST YEAR.
THAT'S NOT REVENUE GENERATIVE OF THE WHOLE PORT DISTRICT, BUT JUST MARITIME, RIGHT? SO, MARITIME AGAIN, MAKES ABOUT WHAT, RON, ABOUT 25% OF OUR WHOLE BUDGET AT THE PORT.
SO WE REALLY NEED TO CONSIDER, AND THIS WOULD BE GREAT FOR THE CITY TO WEIGH IN ON, UNDER, ON WHAT YOU WANNA SEE FOR A FUND TO INVEST IN THAT, BECAUSE THIS IS GONNA COST MONEY.
LIKE, I MEAN, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT 10 TO $20,000, BUT REAL MONIES FOR INVESTMENTS AND INFRASTRUCTURE, REPAIRING OUR ROADS, SAFETY, UH, INVESTING IN ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS TO MAKE SURE THAT TRUCKS ARE NOT, YOU KNOW, TAKING SHORTCUTS.
SO THESE ARE THINGS WE ALL NEED TO CONSIDER AND, AND TO LOOK INTO THE FUND, NOT JUST MARITIME IMPACT FUND, BUT HOW CAN WE MAKE SURE WE HAVE A FUND SET ASIDE THAT IS GOING TO REALLY ADDRESS THESE IMPACTS THAT WE KNOW IS GOING TO OCCUR.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MS. NARANJO.
I KNOW THAT THIS IS SOMETHING VERY, THAT YOU'RE VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT AND, AND I HOPE THAT THE, UH, THE TWO APPLICANTS, UM, ARE UNDERSTANDING WHERE WE'RE COMING FROM.
UM, IT, IT'S, IT'S NECESSARY TO, TO, UM, WORK WITH WHAT WE ARE GIVEN.
RIGHT? THE NATIONAL CITY IS NOT GOING TO BENEFIT FINANCIALLY FROM THE SALES OF THE SERVICES THAT THIS TRUCKING STATION IS GONNA PROVIDE.
UM, IT MAYBE IT'LL EVENTUALLY TRICKLE DOWN AS YOU'VE DESCRIBED THROUGH SOME SORT OF FUND.
BUT, UM, THE FACT THAT THIS WILL BE IN NATIONAL CITY AND IT'S NOT A LITTLE PROJECT, IT'S
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A BIG THING.UM, AND THEN TO HEAR THAT NATIONAL CITY IS NOT GOING TO RECEIVE ANY PERCENTAGE OF IT, UM, YOU KNOW, DIRECTLY, IT, IT'S, UM, DISHEARTENING.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WE'RE COMING ACROSS AS, OKAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH WITH NATIONAL CITY TAKING THE BRUNT OF ALL OF THIS FOR THE REGION.
UM, THIS IS THE REASON WHY, BECAUSE HISTORICALLY, IT, IT HAS, IT HAS.
AND, UM, THE FINAL THING I WANNA COMMENT ON IS, UM, AND MS. NHU, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT, I THINK, UH, I, I DO WANNA FOLLOW UP WITH YOU ABOUT THIS ADDITIONAL FUND THAT THE PORT, YOU KNOW MM-HMM.
UH, MR. MANGANELLO MENTIONED THE, THE, THE HEAVIER TRUCKS, RIGHT? THAT, THAT WILL BE GOING ON.
THESE ROADS, ARE NATIONAL CITY ROADS PREPARED FOR THIS? I DON'T KNOW.
UM, AND IF THEY AREN'T, WELL THEN WHO IS GOING TO PAY TO GET THOSE ROADS, UH, REPAIRED? IF, IF, YOU KNOW, IF THEY GET END UP, YOU KNOW, WITH A TON OF POTHOLES OR WHATEVER.
UM, MY FINAL COMMENT HAD TO DO WITH, UH, MS, UM, ANITA LOPEZ.
I THINK YOU MENTIONED THAT, UH, THE TRAINING FOR INDIVIDUALS, UH, FOR, FOR, UM, ELECTRICIANS AND THIS AND THAT, UM, I'VE HEARD THAT MANY TIMES IS THAT PERHAPS, UH, CURRENT, OUR CURRENT WORKFORCE, UM, IS NOT YET PREPARED FOR THE TYPE OF JOB THAT ELECTRIFICATION IS GOING TO REQUIRE.
AND I DO APPRECIATE THAT YOU HAVE THAT TOP OF MIND.
UH, WE DO NEED TO, UH, GET INDIVIDUALS INTO THE BI, YOU KNOW, INTO THE, UM, THAT CAREER.
IT'S AN EXCELLENT CAREER PATH.
AND, UH, IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S GONNA BE A LONGEVITY TO IT, UH, BECAUSE THAT'S THE DIRECTION CALIFORNIA'S GOING IN, IN ELECTRIFICATION.
AND I LIKE THAT YOU ARE PROPOSING, UH, THE TRAINING FOR INDIVIDUALS.
AGAIN, HOPEFULLY THOSE, UH, NEW PEOPLE OR EVEN, YOU KNOW, EXISTING ELECTRICIANS THAT WANT TO EXPAND ON THEIR SKILLS, UH, THAT THEY DO COME FROM NATIONAL CITY, UH, BECAUSE THAT WILL BE ONE OF THE BENEFITS.
ONE DIRECT BENEFIT TO NATIONAL CITY IS INDIVIDUALS THAT CAN COUNT ON A, UM, A GOOD CAREER, A WELL PAYING JOB, UH, AND, AND THEN GAIN THESE, UH, THIS EXPERIENCE AND GAIN THESE SKILLS THAT THEY CAN APPLY, UH, LONG TERM.
AND I, I THINK ONE OTHER THING IS THAT WE DO HAVE THE MYTH, THE, UH, FUND DEAL IS REALIZE THAT IS SHARED WITH MARIO LOGAN.
NOW, IN THIS CASE, WE'LL SHARE THE BENEFITS HERE AS FAR AS CLEANER AIR, BUT, BUT WE'RE GONNA GET ALL THE IMPACTS.
SO IT NEEDS TO BE SEPARATE FROM THE MYTH.
IT REALLY DOES, UH, BECAUSE AS I SAY IT, IT'S A DIFFERENT SITUATION.
UM, ANYTHING ELSE OF THIS, MR. MAYOR THAT YES.
UM, I THINK YOU'RE LISTENING TO OUR COMMENT AND, UM, I THINK YOU HEARD COMMENTS THAT WERE, UM, SAID EARLIER.
UM, YOU, I MEAN, WHAT OUR, UM, DIRECTOR MANGANELLO SAID IS VERY IMPORTANT.
AND I KNOW THAT OUR COMMISSIONERS LISTENING AS WELL AS, UH, WELL AS MR. POWELL.
UM, AND, AND THESE ARE JUST REVISITING MAYBE YOUR PROPOSAL MOVING FORWARD.
I'M SURE THERE ARE MORE UNDERLYING THERE THAT YOU NEED TO TWEAK OR WHATEVER YOU NEED TO DO.
UM, BUT, BUT, UM, FOR US HERE IN THE DAIS, YOU KNOW, OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE PORT IS, UM, IS GONNA BE, UM, UM, HANDLED.
BUT OUR PORT COMMISSIONER AND OF COURSE OUR, UM, CITY MANAGER AND THIS, UH, COMMENTS THAT WE ARE, THAT WE ARE EXPRESSING TO YOU ARE THINGS THAT, UM, WE HAVE BEEN OVERLOOKED PREVIOUSLY.
SO, UM, YOU, YOU, YOU FEEL THE, THE SENTIMENT OF THE, OF THE DICE HERE AND THE COMMENT FROM OUR PUBLIC FORCE DIRECTOR, SO IT'S NOT AGAINST YOU OR ANYTHING, IT'S THE RELATIONSHIP THAT WE ARE BUILDING.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING OF, AND I'M GONNA ASK OF EITHER OF THE, THEY'RE BOTH IN THE ROOM AND THEY BOTH HAVE HEARD EACH OTHER AND EVERYTHING ELSE, SO I'M GONNA ASK ANYTHING ELSE.
WELL, I'M GONNA GO WITH MEMO MELINA, AND THEN SHE'LL ASK MY QUESTION THEN, THEN WE'LL GO WITH YOU.
UH, I JUST HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION.
UM, YOU ARE PREPARING TO PRESENT THIS AT THE PORT, RIGHT? YOUR PRESENTATIONS? SO OUR UNDERSTANDING OF THE TIMELINE IS THAT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE THEIR FEBRUARY 13TH CLOSED SESSIONS WITH STAFF.
AND, UM, THE COMMISSIONERS ARE GONNA MEET IN CLOSE SESSION.
SO I, I THINK WE'RE LOOKING TO HEAR MORE FEEDBACK AND GUIDANCE OKAY.
AND THAT IS, IS GOING TO INCLUDE PRESENTING SUCH AS YOU DID FOR US TODAY.
SO WE, WE GAVE A RESUBMISSION OF OUR RFP RESPONSE, WHICH WAS MUCH LENGTHIER THAN THIS.
SO I APOLOGIZE IF THE DETAILS LEFT OUT.
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YOU ALL WAS YOU WERE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE IMPACT ON YOUR COMMUNITY.UM, AND SO THAT'S KIND OF THE CONVERSATION WE WANTED TO INCITE HERE.
UM, SO NOW WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVISE OUR COMMUNITY BENEFITS PLAN, UM, BEFORE THE NINTH, SO THE END OF THIS WEEK.
UH, SO WE'LL AMEND OUR PROPOSAL BASED OFF THIS CONVERSATION HERE, AND THEN, UM, GET FEEDBACK AFTER THE 13TH OF, OF FEBRUARY.
IF THERE, OKAY, THEN THANK YOU.
I, JUST TO CLARIFY IN MY MIND, IF I CAN ASK BOTH, UH, BOTH, UH, PROPOSERS MEGAWATTS, WHAT'S THE SIZE OF THE FACILITY, HOW MANY, UM, STALL, HOW MANY CHARGERS OR STALLS OR HOW MANY CHARGERS, AND THEN HOW MANY THE, WHAT'S THE VEHICLE CAPACITY, PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO, I WAS JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THAT SAME PICTURE.
SO, UM, IN WHAT WE PROPOSED TO THE PORT IN OUR UPDATED PROPOSAL, UH, IN OUR PHASE ONE, WE HAVE 47 VEHICLE, UM, 47 SPOTS FOR VEHICLES
TO PULL CHARGING OPPORTUNITIES TO CALL.
WE HAVE, WE HAVE, WE HAVE OPPORTUNITY CHARGING, AND THEN WE HAVE MORE LIKE OVERNIGHT TYPE OF CHARGING FOR OUR TRUCKING AS A SERVICE MODEL.
UM, THE, IT'S, IT'S BETWEEN 300 OR IT'S BETWEEN 400 KW AND 160 KW PER PORT.
UH, PER, PER PER CHARGING STATION.
UM, SO THAT'S WHAT WE PROPOSED.
AND I'M HAPPY, I KNOW I HEARD A LOT OF FEEDBACK THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE A SITE LAY OUT, UM, BASED ON OUR, ON OUR UPDATED RESPONSE.
IF YOU DID LOOK AT, UM, WHAT WE PRESENTED IN FRONT OF THE, THE PORT, UM, IN THE NOVEMBER, IN THE NOVEMBER, UM, COUNCIL MEETING, BUT WE'RE HAPPY TO PROVIDE A, A LAYOUT IN THOSE FIGURES IN ONE SUCCINCT PLACE FOR YOU AFTER THIS, AFTER THIS MEETING.
AND COULD I CALL UP, UH, CARLY IF YOU COULD GIVE THE SAME INFORMATION TO THE CITY MANAGER, AND YOU SAID PHASE ONE WAS 47, WAS THERE PHASE TWO? UH, Y YEAH, SO THERE, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS GETTING TO.
THERE WAS A PHASE TWO, SUPPOSED TO BE 82 PORTS, 82, UM, TOTAL OR, BUT WE HEARD FROM THE COMMISSIONERS AT THE PORT THAT THERE'S VERY MUCH SPECULATION ON TECHNOLOGY AND SIZE AND NEEDS.
WE REALLY DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A CONCEPT, BUT IT WAS NOT PART OF OUR PROPOSAL REALLY.
WE, WE WANT TO INCITE CONVERSATION, UM, AND SCALE THAT ACCORDINGLY WHEN THE TIME COMES TO, TO GROW THE PROJECT.
SO THAT'S THE FEEDBACK WE HEARD.
SO WE DIDN'T THINK IT MADE SENSE TO, UM, PUT A, PUT A FORMAL HARD PROPOSAL OUT THERE.
CARLY, IF YOU'D COME FORWARD WITH YOUR NUMBERS.
TWO, AND LET ME KNOW IF I MISSED ANY OF THEM.
BUT, UM, SO OUR PHASE ONE OF THE PROJECT WOULD BE, UM, 10 CHARTERS, 20 STALLS TO START.
UM, THAT IS ON SAY, A SMALLER PARCEL.
SO IT'S A THREE ACRE PARCEL TOTAL THAT WILL TAKE UP THAT PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO TWO, AND THAT WOULD BE GOING FROM THREE AND A HALF MEGAWATTS UP TO FIVE MEGAWATTS TOTAL INSTALLED.
SO THERE'S GONNA BE 20 CHARTERS, UM, TOTAL INSTALLED, UM, WITH 40 STALLS.
SO THAT'S, IF I THINK I CAN REPEAT ANY OF, OF THAT BECAUSE I KNOW I, YOU GUYS, I JUST CAN'T, I CAN'T, I, I, I APOLOGIZE.
I JUST CAN'T FOLLOW THE, THE NUMBERS.
SO, AND I ALSO HEARD YOU SAY MEGAWATTS VERSUS YOU SAID KILOWATTS AND I WAS TALKING ABOUT OKAY.
SO I THINK IT MAKES SENSE, YOU KNOW, DO YOU KNOW YOUR, UH, CARLY, DO YOU KNOW YOUR KILOWATT PER STATION? YEAH, SURE.
UM, SO THE FIRST 10 ARE THREE 50 KW AND THE SECOND 10 ARE ONE 50 KW ONE.
SO THAT ADDS UP TO THE FIVE MEGAWATTS.
SO TOTAL WOULD BE 20 TOTAL OF 20 CHARGERS.
AND THAT, AND YOUR 20 IN YOUR, YOUR 20 CHARGERS STALLS, CHARGERS ARE, THAT'S NOT SPECULATIVE, THAT IS PART OF YOUR PROPOSAL.
WHEREAS WITH SKY CHARGER, IT'S REALLY 47 VEHICLES.
NOT, THE OTHER PART WAS NOT EVEN.
JUST IF I COULD PUT JUST A LITTLE PERSPECTIVE ON THIS, GO AHEAD.
A LITTLE PERSPECTIVE ON THIS FORD MOTOR COMPANY, UH, TO HAVE THEIR DEALERSHIP
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SELL THEIR LIGHTNING PICKUP, WHICH I'M HAVING A HARD TIME SELLING, BUT ANYWAY, UH, TO SELL THEIR LIGHTNING PICKUP, HAVE TO HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF CHARGING STATIONS THAT CAN CHARGE THE LIGHTNING PICKUP.WE DON'T SELL, WE HAVE A VERY LARGE DEALERSHIP HERE.
IT DOES NOT SELL LIGHTNING PICKUPS BECAUSE SAN DIEGO GAS AND ELECTRIC SAYS THEY CANNOT DO NOT HAVE THE CAPACITY FOR JUST PICKUPS.
UH, SO JUST KINDA KEEP IT IN PERSPECTIVE AS WE'RE DOING ALL THIS PLANNING.
UH, YOU KNOW, AND, UM, THERE'S A, A LOT OF VARIABLES OUT THERE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A OTHER DR.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO GIVE DIRECTION TO STAFF OKAY.
SO MAY, EXCUSE ME, YOU HAVE ONE? UM, ONE OF THE OH, OH, DID, DID HE, ONE OF THE PRESENTERS, SAM, UH, WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT.
AND, AND DID THAT OTHER INDIVIDUAL EVER COME ON? THAT WAS, DID NOT.
UM, THANK YOU FOR, FOR THE COMMENTS AND FOR THAT LAST QUESTION, I JUST WANNA CHIME IN ON ONE THING.
UM, YOU KNOW, PICKING UP, I THINK ON WHAT YOU'RE, WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING THERE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, SDG E IN SOME CASES, YOU KNOW, IS NOT, NOT ABLE TO DELIVER OR IT TAKES THEM SOME TIME.
AND SO WE BELIEVE, BASED UPON WHAT WE'VE UNDERSTOOD FROM THE PORT'S OWN CONVERSATIONS, THAT THE ENVELOPE, SO TO SPEAK, OF WHAT'S AVAILABLE IS FIVE MEGAWATTS.
AND THAT'S WHY WE'VE SIZED OUR PROJECT TO BE FIVE MEGAWATTS.
THAT'S JUST PHASE ONE OF THE OTHER PROPOSALS.
SO I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED THAT I WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S LIKE SIZING THEIR PROJECT TO WHAT'S ACTUALLY AVAILABLE SO THAT IT IS REALISTIC TO THE POINT THAT YOU ARE RAISING.
UH, I, I I THINK THERE'S JUST, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THIS QUESTION ABOUT WHAT'S GONNA BE AVAILABLE FROM SANTA.
I THINK THAT'S THE BIG QUESTION ANYWAY, ON EITHER PROPOSAL.
UM, WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH SDG E IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
UM, WE THINK THERE, THERE'S, COULD BE LESS THAN WE THINK THAT THERE IS LESS THAN FIVE MEGAWATTS AVAILABLE AT THE SITE.
SO THAT ALL BEING SAID, UH, YES, THERE'S GONNA BE A DIALOGUE WITH SDG E ABOUT BRINGING POWER TO THE SITE AND WHAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE REQUESTING.
UM, I THINK WHAT WE'VE SHOWN WITH OUR PHASE TWO ET CETERA IS WE WANNA MEET THE PORTS MCA GOALS, HELP THEM SUCCEED IN TRANSITIONING THESE TRUCKS MM-HMM.
AND THAT'S THE AMBITION AND THE SIZE OF OUR PROJECT.
IT'S OBVIOUSLY GONNA BE A DIALOGUE BETWEEN STAKEHOLDERS AND THINGS COULD ADJUST AS AS THEY DO.
I, I JUST WANT, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE, WE STAY REALISTIC ON OUR EXPECTATIONS.
UH, THREE MONTHS AGO, CONGRESS HAD, UH, HEARINGS ON ELECTRIFICATION OF THE LOCOMOTIVE FLEET.
AND AFTER SEVERAL LONG SESSIONS THEY FINALLY REALIZE THAT WE DO NOT HAVE A SINGLE GRID CURRENTLY THAT CAN CHARGE ONE LOCOMOTIVE MOST LESS THE FLEET.
UH, SO, AND THEY'RE GOING, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO LOOK TO THE FUTURE ON, ON SOME OF THAT.
AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BURNS AND MAC WITH IN PROPOSING A MICROGRID TYPE OF SOLUTION, HELP AUGMENT SOME OF THOSE LIMITATIONS.
YEAH, I, I, THAT ACTUALLY ADDED A POINT TO THE MOTION I WAS GONNA MAKE GREAT IMPACTS TOO.
SO, NO, BECAUSE I APPRECIATE THAT.
'CAUSE I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT THAT PART OF IT, THAT OUR GRID MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO HANDLE IT.
SO THAT IS THE NECESSITATES THE NEED FOR MORE INVESTMENT AND THE PORT SHOULD BE HELPING OUT WITH THAT INVESTMENT.
SO IT'S, NO, SO THAT'S THE KIND OF ANALYSIS I THINK WE NEED.
SO I, I MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT OUR CITY MANAGER TO REQUEST THE PORT, INCLUDE THEM, THE CITY MANAGER OR THEIR DESIGNEE, BE PART OF THE SELECTION PROCESS MOVING FORWARD AND REQUEST PORT STAFF CONSIDER ISSUES INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO TRAFFIC ANALYSIS AND IMPACTS.
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IS WHAT THE MAYOR BROUGHT UP EARLIER.UH, GRID IMPACTS, UH, LEASE PERIOD.
WE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS ON THAT, WHETHER 20, 30 YEARS, WHAT THE SIZE OF THAT IS, UH, OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR CITY FLEET TO HAVE ACCESS TO THESE CHARGES.
SO THANK YOU, UM, TO OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR FOR THAT.
UH, COMMUNITY COMM AND COMMUNITY BENEFITS, UH, AND ECONOMIC CONTRIBUTION TO CITY, INCLUDING LOCAL HIRE OR JOB PROGRAM.
SECOND PART OF THAT MOTION, AND I'LL RESTATE THIS
THE SECOND PART, DIRECTOR, CITY ATTORNEY WORK WITH, UH, PORT GENERAL COUNSEL, THEIR GENERAL COUNSEL ON LEGAL ANALYSIS ON HOW INVESTMENTS CAN BE MADE TO OFFSET THE EXPENSES, UH, NATIONAL CITY WILL INCUR AS A RESULT OF THE ELECTRIC TRUCK TRANSITION.
LOOK AT CREATING AN IMPACT FUND.
I HEARD OUR, UM, OUR PORT COMMISSIONER BRING, UH, UH, THAT IDEA AND THE, AND THE MAYOR AS WELL AND ENSURING THAT NONE OF THE ACTIONS ARE A GIFT OF PUBLIC FUNDS OR THERE'S ANY POTENTIAL CONFLICTS OF INTEREST IN THE PROCESS.
SO, UM, DIRECTOR, CITY MANAGER TO REQUEST THE PORT, INCLUDE THE CITY MANAGER OR THEIR DESIGNEE, BE PART OF THE SELECTION PROCESS MOVING FORWARD AND REQUEST PORT STAFF CONSIDER ISSUES INCLUDING BUT TWO TRAFFIC ANALYSIS IMPACTS FIRE DEPARTMENT IMPACTS, GRID IMPACTS LEASE PERIOD, UH, OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR FLEET CITY FLEET TO HAVE ACCESS TO THESE CHARGERS, COMMUNITY BENEFITS AND ECONOMIC CONTRIBUTIONS SUCH AS LOCAL HIGHER JOB PROGRAM.
AND THEN DIRECT AND DIRECT OUR CITY ATTORNEY WORK WITH PORT GENERAL COUNSEL ON LEGAL ANALYSIS ON HOW INVESTMENTS CAN BE MADE TO OFFSET THE EXPENSES NATIONAL CITY WILL INCUR AS A RESULT OF THE ELECTRIC TRUCK TRANSITION.
LOOK AT CREATING AN IMPACT FUND AND ENSURING NONE OF THE ACTIONS ARE A GIFT OF PUBLIC FUNDS OR THERE'S ANY POTENTIAL CONFLICTS OF INTEREST IN THE PROCESS.
OKAY, SO THIS IS FOR DIRECTION TO STAFF.
AND SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? UH, LET'S SEE.
DID WE WANNA HIT YOUR BUTTONS THERE FOR, SINCE WE ARE MAKING A MOTION, WE MAKE THE MOTION, MARCUS? YEAH.
AND THEN WE'LL GET THE SECOND IN THERE.
ALRIGHT, SO THERE'S WHERE WE'RE AT AT THIS STAGE AND, UH, WE, WE SEE WHERE WE GO FROM THERE IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.